Re: Lucent Orinoco Gold PCCard?

2000-12-11 Thread Nick Sayer

Wes Peters wrote:
 
 Andre Oppermann wrote:
 
  Is there any supporting Access Point functionality, eg. using the
  freebsd server as AP?
 
 There's no special support for it, but it's just another interface.  If
 you run it (and your other 802.11 devices) in ad-hoc mode, everything should
 work peachy.

The only caveat is that you will have to use ad-hoc mode rather than
infrastructure mode (putting a wi cart into infrastructure _server_ mode
is not possible with open-source software right now), and you can't use
them in bridging configurations because they cannot do promiscuous
transmit (every packet they send must have the local card's ethernet
address).


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Re: Lucent Orinoco Gold PCCard?

2000-12-11 Thread Wes Peters

Nick Sayer wrote:
 
 Wes Peters wrote:
 
  Andre Oppermann wrote:
  
   Is there any supporting Access Point functionality, eg. using the
   freebsd server as AP?
 
  There's no special support for it, but it's just another interface.  If
  you run it (and your other 802.11 devices) in ad-hoc mode, everything should
  work peachy.
 
 The only caveat is that you will have to use ad-hoc mode rather than
 infrastructure mode (putting a wi cart into infrastructure _server_ mode
 is not possible with open-source software right now), and you can't use
 them in bridging configurations because they cannot do promiscuous
 transmit (every packet they send must have the local card's ethernet
 address).

Right.  I should've said "it works fine as a router interface."  In fact,
my FreeBSD laptop with WaveLAN Silver interoperates daily with an OpenBSD
router using a WaveLAN Silver, that's how I "connect" to the network at
the office.

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Re: Lucent Orinoco Gold PCCard?

2000-12-10 Thread Edwin Culp

Actually, I need to create a local wireless backbone between 8 seperate
buildings in a small campus area that will share an sdsl internet connection
through our freebsd server.   The new intel pro wireless 2100 seems to address
all of our issues, at least according to the intel webpage. :-)  They also have
a 50% off promotional package where you get the access point and two 802.11b
pccards for $699.00 if you buy before the end of the year.

I tried to use airports to connect two wired networks without success.  Maybe
I just wasn't able to configure them.  I'm going to give the java/airport in
ports a try.  I didn't realize that it existed.  Thanks.

If anyone has any ideas on where I am off track, they would certainly be
appreciated.

Thanks,

ed

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Re: Lucent Orinoco Gold PCCard?

2000-12-10 Thread Archie Cobbs

Doug Ambrisko writes:
 BTW I saw ADDTRON http://www.addtron.com/ has a base station for around
 $220 that can do 128 bit encryption, has an antenna and is Web administered.
 I haven't used it but it looks interesting.

I've started playing with one of these. It seems to have the
interesting feature that it stops bridging all traffic after
about an hour of operation, requiring a power cycle.

Haven't tried upgrading the firmware yet though..

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Re: Lucent Orinoco Gold PCCard?

2000-12-10 Thread [EMAIL PROTECTED]


Is there a list of wireless pc cards that work (and how well they work)
with FreeBSD??

JRS



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Re: Lucent Orinoco Gold PCCard?

2000-12-10 Thread Warner Losh

In message [EMAIL PROTECTED] 
"[EMAIL PROTECTED]" writes:
: Is there a list of wireless pc cards that work (and how well they work)
: with FreeBSD??

There's /etc/defaults/pccard.conf, which says breifly:
Aironet 340/342 Series 11Mbps 802.11 wireless NIC
Aironet PC4500 2Mbps 802.11 wireless NIC
Aironet PC4800 11Mbps 802.11 wireless NIC
Bay Networks BayStack 650 Wireless LAN
Cabletron RoamAbout, WaveLAN/IEEE clone
Compaq WL100
Corega KK Wireless LAN PCC-11
ELECOM Air@Hawk/LD-WL11/PCC (0.7.5)
ELECOM Air@Hawk/LD-WL11/PCC (0.7.6 and later)
Farallon SkyLINE Wireless
Farallon Skyline 11Mbps Wireless
Generic AMD Am79c930 based card
ICOM SL-1100
ICom SL-200
Lucent WaveLAN/IEEE
Melco Airconnect
Melco WLI-PCM
NCR WaveLAN/IEEE
NEC Wireless Card CMZ-RT-WP
PLANEX GeoWave/GW-NS110
TDK LAK-CD011WL
WebGEAR Aviator 2.4 (ray driver, not 802.11b)
Xircom CreditCard Netwave   (cwn to be committed soon)
ZoomAir-4000

Warner

P.S.  I'd like to have one of each of these.


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Re: Lucent Orinoco Gold PCCard?

2000-12-10 Thread Andre Oppermann


Is there any supporting Access Point functionality, eg. using the
freebsd server as AP?

Warner Losh wrote:
 
 In message [EMAIL PROTECTED] 
"[EMAIL PROTECTED]" writes:
 : Is there a list of wireless pc cards that work (and how well they work)
 : with FreeBSD??
 
 There's /etc/defaults/pccard.conf, which says breifly:
 Aironet 340/342 Series 11Mbps 802.11 wireless NIC
 Aironet PC4500 2Mbps 802.11 wireless NIC
 Aironet PC4800 11Mbps 802.11 wireless NIC
 Bay Networks BayStack 650 Wireless LAN
 Cabletron RoamAbout, WaveLAN/IEEE clone
 Compaq WL100
 Corega KK Wireless LAN PCC-11
 ELECOM Air@Hawk/LD-WL11/PCC (0.7.5)
 ELECOM Air@Hawk/LD-WL11/PCC (0.7.6 and later)
 Farallon SkyLINE Wireless
 Farallon Skyline 11Mbps Wireless
 Generic AMD Am79c930 based card
 ICOM SL-1100
 ICom SL-200
 Lucent WaveLAN/IEEE
 Melco Airconnect
 Melco WLI-PCM
 NCR WaveLAN/IEEE
 NEC Wireless Card CMZ-RT-WP
 PLANEX GeoWave/GW-NS110
 TDK LAK-CD011WL
 WebGEAR Aviator 2.4 (ray driver, not 802.11b)
 Xircom CreditCard Netwave   (cwn to be committed soon)
 ZoomAir-4000
 
 Warner
 
 P.S.  I'd like to have one of each of these.
 
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Re: Lucent Orinoco Gold PCCard?

2000-12-10 Thread Warner Losh

In message [EMAIL PROTECTED] Andre Oppermann writes:
: Is there any supporting Access Point functionality, eg. using the
: freebsd server as AP?

No.  AP mode firmware is generally undocumented.

Warner


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Re: Lucent Orinoco Gold PCCard?

2000-12-10 Thread Brooks Davis

On Sun, Dec 10, 2000 at 03:46:27PM -0700, Warner Losh wrote:
 In message [EMAIL PROTECTED] 
"[EMAIL PROTECTED]" writes:
 : Is there a list of wireless pc cards that work (and how well they work)
 : with FreeBSD??
 
 There's /etc/defaults/pccard.conf, which says breifly:
   Aironet 340/342 Series 11Mbps 802.11 wireless NIC

This should read:

Cisco Aironet 340 Series 11Mbps 802.11 wireless NIC

I though this had been fixed, but apparently it wasn't in all places.

   Aironet PC4800 11Mbps 802.11 wireless NIC

These aren't 802.11b compatable.  They played the usual game of releasing
before the final IEEE vote on the standard to be early to market and
didn't win the vote.  The 802.11b compatable Aironet access points (Cisco
APs) can be configured to support these, but the don't interoperate fully.

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Supported wireless PCMCIA cards (was: Lucent Orinoco Gold PCCard?)

2000-12-10 Thread Greg Lehey

On Sunday, 10 December 2000 at 15:46:27 -0700, Warner Losh wrote:
 In message [EMAIL PROTECTED] 
"[EMAIL PROTECTED]" writes:
 : Is there a list of wireless pc cards that work (and how well they work)
 : with FreeBSD??

 There's /etc/defaults/pccard.conf, which says breifly:
   ...
   WebGEAR Aviator 2.4 (ray driver, not 802.11b)

Specifically, it's 802.11 FHSS.  I've been having a *lot* of trouble
with this one.  It maps a total of 52 kB into I/O space (48 kB + 4 kB,
each contiguous), and I can't find that much memory.

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Re: Lucent Orinoco Gold PCCard?

2000-12-10 Thread Wes Peters

"[EMAIL PROTECTED]" wrote:
 
 Is there a list of wireless pc cards that work (and how well they work)
 with FreeBSD??

man -k 802.11 or man -k wireless should do it, but the man pages aren't
quite that organized.

All I can find grepping the 4.2 sources is Cisco/Aironet and Lucent WaveLAN/
Orinoco: an(4) and wi(4).  Many of the cards on the market are Lucent OEMs,
but it's still a crapshoot without direct knowlege.

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Re: Lucent Orinoco Gold PCCard?

2000-12-10 Thread Wes Peters

Andre Oppermann wrote:
 
 Is there any supporting Access Point functionality, eg. using the
 freebsd server as AP?

There's no special support for it, but it's just another interface.  If
you run it (and your other 802.11 devices) in ad-hoc mode, everything should
work peachy.

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Re: Lucent Orinoco Gold PCCard?

2000-12-09 Thread Wes Peters

Christopher Masto wrote:
 
 On Fri, Dec 08, 2000 at 11:23:00PM -0700, Wes Peters wrote:
   I am told that the Apple "AirPort Base Station", which is $399, works
   well and can be configured with the Java-based thing in the ports
   collection.  I am further told that the Lucent/ORiNOCO RG-1000 base
   station is virtually identical, although more expensive and somehow
   inferior, although I don't understand the exact inferiorities.
 
  They're the same thing in different cases, it's hard to see how one can
  be superior in any way other than price.
 
 "The most stupid thing was that you couldn't set its network name to
 anything other than its serial number because on bootup, it copies its
 serial number over the first five bytes of the network name.  It also
 can't be fully configured without the Windows software -- which is a
 bit misleading for me to say because even with the Windows software,
 you can only set it up to use the modem or provide NAT routing via
 Ethernet, and not set it up to do bridging."

The "Windows software" is actually a Java applet that I saw running on
FreeBSD at BSDCon.  Don't believe everything you read, try to verify it
first.

   I am thinking of getting one of these things, despite my strong desire
   to avoid owning such a stupid looking piece of hardware.
 
  Wait for the LinkSys; the dual antennas and price differential will be
  worth the wait.  If the plethora of 802.11b equipment at BSDCon 2k is
  any indication, interoperability should be pretty good.
 
 But will I be able to configure the LinkSys?  That's my primary
 concern.  I only have FreeBSD, so if it requires any proprietary
 software at all, I can't use it.  Besides that, I'll only be using
 this 10 feet away from the base. :-)

If you're only 10 feet from the base, save several hundred dollars and buy
a 4 meter patch cable.

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Re: Lucent Orinoco Gold PCCard?

2000-12-09 Thread Warner Losh

In message [EMAIL PROTECTED] Christopher Masto writes:
:  If you're only 10 feet from the base, save several hundred dollars and buy
:  a 4 meter patch cable.
: 
: Thanks, that hadn't occurred to me.

It depends on the 10' :-)

My laptop roams between 3' and 75' of my closest outlet.  Usually
5-10'.

Patch cables are cheaper and faster (when was the last time you got
100Mbps over wireless?).  Wireless cards are easier to expand the net
with and easier to take to a slightly different place :-)

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Re: Lucent Orinoco Gold PCCard?

2000-12-09 Thread Pete Carah

There is also a new access point (either just available or "RSN") from
Zyxel (316); it is a combination of a 310 (cable modem/bridged DSL/PPPOE
router) and single-card bridged access point.

I'm using one at work (overkill since I'm not using the router) as a 
bridged access point; it works just fine in that role (plug the ethernet
into the "LAN" (10/100!) port and leave the "WAN" port empty).  

Stock it only comes with 40 bit but maybe could be used with a gold
(or equivalent) card (haven't tried it, though).  The card it comes 
with is OEM'd by someone (Melco?) and does have an antenna jack.

At home I'm currently using a Lucent card in a FBSD machine as a base; IBSS 
create does work; it gets a hybrid between BSS and ad-hoc mode (at least 
the client connects in infrastructure mode).  In this mode the client is
transmitting a lot, though; makes the laptop power supply get pretty
warm.

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Re: Lucent Orinoco Gold PCCard?

2000-12-08 Thread Darryl Okahata

Nick Sayer [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

 Christopher Masto wrote:

  I am told that the Apple "AirPort Base Station", which is $399, works
  well and can be configured with the Java-based thing in the ports
  collection.  I am further told that the Lucent/ORiNOCO RG-1000 base
  station is virtually identical, although more expensive and somehow
  inferior, although I don't understand the exact inferiorities.
 
 It is inferior in two ways:

 Also, there are other alternatives to the AirPort (which is closer
to $299 than $399).  One is the Buffalo AirStation (around $280-$340,
depending on options -- see
http://www.melcoinc.com/english/network/air.html).  Other, cheaper,
access points have been mentioned here in earlier messages.  The
AirStation is sold in the US by TechWorks (http://www.techworks.com)
among possibly others.

 I've got an AirStation, and it's not bad.  Like most access points,
it has only 40-bit encryption, though.  It's configurable via a web
browser, using password-protected web pages.  However, because of this,
the configuration needs to be done via a secure, wired lan, as the web
passwords are transmitted in plain text.

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Re: Lucent Orinoco Gold PCCard?

2000-12-08 Thread Darryl Okahata

I wrote:

  Also, there are other alternatives to the AirPort (which is closer
 to $299 than $399).  One is the Buffalo AirStation (around $280-$340,

 I forgot to mention that the AirStation supposedly supports roaming 
between access points.  I haven't tried it, though.

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Re: Lucent Orinoco Gold PCCard?

2000-12-08 Thread Andrew Gordon

On Fri, 8 Dec 2000, Darryl Okahata wrote:

 I wrote:
 
   Also, there are other alternatives to the AirPort (which is closer
  to $299 than $399).  One is the Buffalo AirStation (around $280-$340,
 
  I forgot to mention that the AirStation supposedly supports roaming 
 between access points.  I haven't tried it, though.

Almost all APs support roaming, because they'd have to go out of their way
to prevent it: roaming is controlled from the client end.

Most clients seem to just implement the "wait until contact is lost with
the current AP then scan for a new one" scheme, though cleverer approaches
are possible.

Roaming between AirPort and AirStation APs certainly works.



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Re: Lucent Orinoco Gold PCCard?

2000-12-08 Thread Wes Peters

Christopher Masto wrote:
 
 On Wed, Dec 06, 2000 at 07:23:40PM -0800, Charlie Root wrote:
  There is definately a trend to lower prices.  I just found this.  A
  new intel Intel PRO/Wireless 2011 LAN access point and two pcmcia
  cards for $699.  The access point sounds interesting.  I personally
  would like to use it as a repeater and network bridge.
 
 I am told that the Apple "AirPort Base Station", which is $399, works
 well and can be configured with the Java-based thing in the ports
 collection.  I am further told that the Lucent/ORiNOCO RG-1000 base
 station is virtually identical, although more expensive and somehow
 inferior, although I don't understand the exact inferiorities.

They're the same thing in different cases, it's hard to see how one can
be superior in any way other than price.

 I am thinking of getting one of these things, despite my strong desire
 to avoid owning such a stupid looking piece of hardware.

Wait for the LinkSys; the dual antennas and price differential will be
worth the wait.  If the plethora of 802.11b equipment at BSDCon 2k is
any indication, interoperability should be pretty good.

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Re: Lucent Orinoco Gold PCCard?

2000-12-08 Thread Warner Losh

In message [EMAIL PROTECTED] Wes Peters writes:
: worth the wait.  If the plethora of 802.11b equipment at BSDCon 2k is
: any indication, interoperability should be pretty good.

YAMAMOTO shigeru-san's collection of wireless cards was proof of that
I think :-)

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Re: Lucent Orinoco Gold PCCard?

2000-12-08 Thread Christopher Masto

On Fri, Dec 08, 2000 at 11:23:00PM -0700, Wes Peters wrote:
  I am told that the Apple "AirPort Base Station", which is $399, works
  well and can be configured with the Java-based thing in the ports
  collection.  I am further told that the Lucent/ORiNOCO RG-1000 base
  station is virtually identical, although more expensive and somehow
  inferior, although I don't understand the exact inferiorities.
 
 They're the same thing in different cases, it's hard to see how one can
 be superior in any way other than price.

"The most stupid thing was that you couldn't set its network name to 
anything other than its serial number because on bootup, it copies its
serial number over the first five bytes of the network name.  It also
can't be fully configured without the Windows software -- which is a
bit misleading for me to say because even with the Windows software,
you can only set it up to use the modem or provide NAT routing via
Ethernet, and not set it up to do bridging."

  I am thinking of getting one of these things, despite my strong desire
  to avoid owning such a stupid looking piece of hardware.
 
 Wait for the LinkSys; the dual antennas and price differential will be
 worth the wait.  If the plethora of 802.11b equipment at BSDCon 2k is
 any indication, interoperability should be pretty good.

But will I be able to configure the LinkSys?  That's my primary
concern.  I only have FreeBSD, so if it requires any proprietary
software at all, I can't use it.  Besides that, I'll only be using
this 10 feet away from the base. :-)
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Re: Lucent Orinoco Gold PCCard?

2000-12-07 Thread Nick Sayer

Christopher Masto wrote:
 
 On Wed, Dec 06, 2000 at 07:23:40PM -0800, Charlie Root wrote:
  There is definately a trend to lower prices.  I just found this.  A
  new intel Intel PRO/Wireless 2011 LAN access point and two pcmcia
  cards for $699.  The access point sounds interesting.  I personally
  would like to use it as a repeater and network bridge.
 
 I am told that the Apple "AirPort Base Station", which is $399, works
 well and can be configured with the Java-based thing in the ports
 collection.  I am further told that the Lucent/ORiNOCO RG-1000 base
 station is virtually identical, although more expensive and somehow
 inferior, although I don't understand the exact inferiorities.

It is inferior in two ways:

1. If you change the location string from "Lucent ORiNOCCO RG-1000", the
Lucent configurator will no longer find it.

2. You can't change the network name. If you try, the first few
characters will be overwritten with the hex number on the sticker next
time you start it up.

3. You can't change the community name (that is, the configuration
password) with the Lucent software. They count on the encryption to keep
naughty folks from reconfiguring it, but they took no steps to prevent
reconfiguration from the wired side.

#3 is particularly damning. I look forward to the CERT advisories that
talk about script kiddies changing the encryption key and community name
as a DOS attack on these things. If I had one of these, the first thing
I would do is ditch their crappy software and set it up with the Java
one in the ports, changing the community name in the process.

 I am thinking of getting one of these things, despite my strong desire
 to avoid owning such a stupid looking piece of hardware.

Get an Airport instead. There's certainly no good reason not to, so long
as Apple takes no steps to invalidate the Java configurator.


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Re: Lucent Orinoco Gold PCCard?

2000-12-07 Thread Christopher Masto

On Wed, Dec 06, 2000 at 07:23:40PM -0800, Charlie Root wrote:
 There is definately a trend to lower prices.  I just found this.  A
 new intel Intel PRO/Wireless 2011 LAN access point and two pcmcia
 cards for $699.  The access point sounds interesting.  I personally
 would like to use it as a repeater and network bridge.

I am told that the Apple "AirPort Base Station", which is $399, works
well and can be configured with the Java-based thing in the ports
collection.  I am further told that the Lucent/ORiNOCO RG-1000 base
station is virtually identical, although more expensive and somehow
inferior, although I don't understand the exact inferiorities.

I am thinking of getting one of these things, despite my strong desire
to avoid owning such a stupid looking piece of hardware.
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Re: Lucent Orinoco Gold PCCard?

2000-12-06 Thread Charlie Root

There is definately a trend to lower prices.  I just found this.  A new intel Intel
PRO/Wireless 2011 LAN access point and two pcmcia cards for $699.  The access point
sounds interesting.  I personally would like to use it as a repeater and network
bridge.

http://www.intel.com/network/products/wireless.htm
https://merchant.hibbertco.com/servlet/InteComServlet?SessionID=319728709221315074OrderID=71803ItemCnt=1Adapters=yes

ed

Doug Ambrisko wrote:

 Warner Losh writes:
 | In message [EMAIL PROTECTED] Doug Ambrisko writes:
 | : Well this is what I'm doing with the Aironet stuff.  I have a script
 | : to flip between modes until it sync's up.  I bought the PCMCIA ISA
 | : adapter for $25 from a local surplus place.
 |
 | Does this mean that the an driver can operate in "base station" mode?

 No, just ad-hoc (atleast that's what is published).  So on my laptop my
 script flips between modes (ad-hoc  infrastructure) until it sync's up
 with whatever it can find.  I start it out of pccard.conf so it is automatic
 on card insertion, reboot or wakeup.

 | : BTW I saw ADDTRON http://www.addtron.com/ has a base station for around
 | : $220 that can do 128 bit encryption, has an antenna and is Web administered.
 | : I haven't used it but it looks interesting.
 |
 | I'll have to check this out as well.

 Let us know what you find out.

 Doug A.

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Re: Lucent Orinoco Gold PCCard?

2000-12-06 Thread Ade Lovett

On Tue, Dec 05, 2000 at 01:46:51PM -0700, Warner Losh wrote:
 In message [EMAIL PROTECTED] Doug Ambrisko writes:
 : BTW I saw ADDTRON http://www.addtron.com/ has a base station for around
 : $220 that can do 128 bit encryption, has an antenna and is Web administered.
 : I haven't used it but it looks interesting.
 
 I'll have to check this out as well.


FWIW, I ordered one of these today.. I'll pass on my discoveries with
my various wireless cards (mostly Lucent) if y'all are interested..

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Re: Lucent Orinoco Gold PCCard?

2000-12-06 Thread Wes Peters

Warner Losh wrote:
 
 In message [EMAIL PROTECTED] Doug Ambrisko writes:
 : Well this is what I'm doing with the Aironet stuff.  I have a script
 : to flip between modes until it sync's up.  I bought the PCMCIA ISA
 : adapter for $25 from a local surplus place.
 
 Does this mean that the an driver can operate in "base station" mode?
 
 : BTW I saw ADDTRON http://www.addtron.com/ has a base station for around
 : $220 that can do 128 bit encryption, has an antenna and is Web administered.
 : I haven't used it but it looks interesting.

Linksys has a new one, WAP-11, that has all of the above and dual antennas
(should be much better for signal diversity) for about $240, but nobody 
really has it in stock yet.

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Re: Lucent Orinoco Gold PCCard?

2000-12-05 Thread Wes Peters

Warner Losh wrote:
 
 In message [EMAIL PROTECTED] Wes Peters writes:
 : Dell is selling a Lucent-OEMed card for $139.  I don't know if it is a
 : Silver or Gold, though.
 
 http://www.comready.com/dlindwwirlan.html
 
 is selling what appears to be a lucentOEM'd card for $119.  It has
 40-bit WEP, so I don't know what metal that makes it (despite having
 been told the last time this came up). 

Silver, according to the wicontrol(8) man page.  ;^)

 There's no external antenna
 connector, however.  Still not a bad price and with $20 of the price
 point for taking my whole house wireless.

Yeah, thanks.  I still haven't decided if I'm going to stick (another)
wireless card in my gateway machine or buy an access point/bridge.  The
prices of PCMCIA card cages are frightfully high, making the cost roughly
the same, and the access point would support infrastructure mode also.

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Re: Lucent Orinoco Gold PCCard?

2000-12-05 Thread Doug Ambrisko

Wes Peters writes:
| Warner Losh wrote:
|  
|  In message [EMAIL PROTECTED] Wes Peters writes:
|  : Dell is selling a Lucent-OEMed card for $139.  I don't know if it is a
|  : Silver or Gold, though.
|  
|  http://www.comready.com/dlindwwirlan.html
|  
|  is selling what appears to be a lucentOEM'd card for $119.  It has
|  40-bit WEP, so I don't know what metal that makes it (despite having
|  been told the last time this came up). 
| 
| Silver, according to the wicontrol(8) man page.  ;^)
| 
|  There's no external antenna
|  connector, however.  Still not a bad price and with $20 of the price
|  point for taking my whole house wireless.
| 
| Yeah, thanks.  I still haven't decided if I'm going to stick (another)
| wireless card in my gateway machine or buy an access point/bridge.  The
| prices of PCMCIA card cages are frightfully high, making the cost roughly
| the same, and the access point would support infrastructure mode also.

Well this is what I'm doing with the Aironet stuff.  I have a script
to flip between modes until it sync's up.  I bought the PCMCIA ISA 
adapter for $25 from a local surplus place.

BTW I saw ADDTRON http://www.addtron.com/ has a base station for around
$220 that can do 128 bit encryption, has an antenna and is Web administered.
I haven't used it but it looks interesting.

Doug A.


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Re: Lucent Orinoco Gold PCCard?

2000-12-05 Thread Warner Losh

In message [EMAIL PROTECTED] Doug Ambrisko writes:
: Well this is what I'm doing with the Aironet stuff.  I have a script
: to flip between modes until it sync's up.  I bought the PCMCIA ISA 
: adapter for $25 from a local surplus place.

Does this mean that the an driver can operate in "base station" mode?

: BTW I saw ADDTRON http://www.addtron.com/ has a base station for around
: $220 that can do 128 bit encryption, has an antenna and is Web administered.
: I haven't used it but it looks interesting.

I'll have to check this out as well.

Warner


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Re: Lucent Orinoco Gold PCCard?

2000-12-05 Thread Doug Ambrisko

Warner Losh writes:
| In message [EMAIL PROTECTED] Doug Ambrisko writes:
| : Well this is what I'm doing with the Aironet stuff.  I have a script
| : to flip between modes until it sync's up.  I bought the PCMCIA ISA 
| : adapter for $25 from a local surplus place.
| 
| Does this mean that the an driver can operate in "base station" mode?

No, just ad-hoc (atleast that's what is published).  So on my laptop my 
script flips between modes (ad-hoc  infrastructure) until it sync's up 
with whatever it can find.  I start it out of pccard.conf so it is automatic
on card insertion, reboot or wakeup.
 
| : BTW I saw ADDTRON http://www.addtron.com/ has a base station for around
| : $220 that can do 128 bit encryption, has an antenna and is Web administered.
| : I haven't used it but it looks interesting.
| 
| I'll have to check this out as well.

Let us know what you find out.

Doug A.


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Re: Lucent Orinoco Gold PCCard?

2000-12-04 Thread Sascha Luck

Thus spoke Warner Losh:
 In message [EMAIL PROTECTED] John Baldwin writes:
 : I'm sending this e-mail over a WaveLAN Gold, and from my
 : understanding the Orinoco card is the same card with a different
 : name and a different sticker, so it should work fine.
 
 I'm doing the same thing.  It is the same card with a different
 label.  The newer firmware, however, sets the default channel
 differently than the older cards.  Doesn't matter for infrastructure
 mode, but does for adhoc.
 
Thanks to all who replied. I wasn't sure it was still the same as 
the WaveLAN product.

Cheers,
Sascha


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Re: Lucent Orinoco Gold PCCard?

2000-12-04 Thread Wes Peters

Sascha Luck wrote:
 
 Thus spoke Warner Losh:
  In message [EMAIL PROTECTED] John Baldwin writes:
  : I'm sending this e-mail over a WaveLAN Gold, and from my
  : understanding the Orinoco card is the same card with a different
  : name and a different sticker, so it should work fine.
 
  I'm doing the same thing.  It is the same card with a different
  label.  The newer firmware, however, sets the default channel
  differently than the older cards.  Doesn't matter for infrastructure
  mode, but does for adhoc.
 
 Thanks to all who replied. I wasn't sure it was still the same as
 the WaveLAN product.

Dell is selling a Lucent-OEMed card for $139.  I don't know if it is a
Silver or Gold, though.

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Re: Lucent Orinoco Gold PCCard?

2000-12-04 Thread Warner Losh

In message [EMAIL PROTECTED] Wes Peters writes:
: Dell is selling a Lucent-OEMed card for $139.  I don't know if it is a
: Silver or Gold, though.

http://www.comready.com/dlindwwirlan.html

is selling what appears to be a lucentOEM'd card for $119.  It has
40-bit WEP, so I don't know what metal that makes it (despite having
been told the last time this came up).  There's no external antenna
connector, however.  Still not a bad price and with $20 of the price
point for taking my whole house wireless.

Warner



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Re: Lucent Orinoco Gold PCCard?

2000-12-04 Thread Barry Lustig

On Mon, 04 Dec 2000, Warner Losh wrote:
  In message [EMAIL PROTECTED] Wes Peters writes:
  Dell is selling a Lucent-OEMed card for $139.  I don't know if it is a
  Silver or Gold, though.

  http://www.comready.com/dlindwwirlan.html

  is selling what appears to be a lucentOEM'd card for $119.  It has
  40-bit WEP, so I don't know what metal that makes it (despite having
  been told the last time this came up).  There's no external antenna
  connector, however.  Still not a bad price and with $20 of the price
  point for taking my whole house wireless.


40-bit WEP means silver.

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Re: Lucent Orinoco Gold PCCard?

2000-12-04 Thread John Baldwin


On 04-Dec-00 Warner Losh wrote:
 In message [EMAIL PROTECTED] Wes Peters writes:
: Dell is selling a Lucent-OEMed card for $139.  I don't know if it is a
: Silver or Gold, though.
 
 http://www.comready.com/dlindwwirlan.html
 
 is selling what appears to be a lucentOEM'd card for $119.  It has
 40-bit WEP, so I don't know what metal that makes it (despite having
 been told the last time this came up).  There's no external antenna
 connector, however.  Still not a bad price and with $20 of the price
 point for taking my whole house wireless.

0 == bronze
40 == silver
128 == gold

AFAIK

 Warner

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Re: Lucent Orinoco Gold PCCard?

2000-12-04 Thread Nick Sayer

John Baldwin wrote:
 
[...]
 
 0 == bronze
 40 == silver
 128 == gold

FWIW, it is more correct to say either 

0 == bronze
40 == silver
104 == gold

or

0 == bronze
64 == silver
128 == gold

WEP has a 24 bit sequence number that perturbs the encryption. The fact
that 24 bit sequence numbers can be run through on a busy LAN might make
one wish to institute weekly key changes before bothering to go up to
128 bit encryption (that, and the fact that the front door to your house
probably has a lot fewer than 40 bits of security).


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Re: Lucent Orinoco Gold PCCard?

2000-11-30 Thread Warner Losh

In message [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sascha Luck writes:
: has anyone got the Lucent Orinoco Gold (11MBit/s) PC-Card working 
: with the wi driver in -CURRENT?

Yes.  I'm running one right now.

Warner


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Re: Lucent Orinoco Gold PCCard?

2000-11-30 Thread Warner Losh

In message [EMAIL PROTECTED] John Baldwin writes:
: I'm sending this e-mail over a WaveLAN Gold, and from my
: understanding the Orinoco card is the same card with a different
: name and a different sticker, so it should work fine.

I'm doing the same thing.  It is the same card with a different
label.  The newer firmware, however, sets the default channel
differently than the older cards.  Doesn't matter for infrastructure
mode, but does for adhoc.

Warner


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Lucent Orinoco Gold PCCard?

2000-11-29 Thread Sascha Luck

Hi,

has anyone got the Lucent Orinoco Gold (11MBit/s) PC-Card working 
with the wi driver in -CURRENT?

I know the Silver and Bronze cards work, but I'm thinking of buying
the Gold for the 128 bit encryption...

Cheers,

Sascha


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Re: Lucent Orinoco Gold PCCard?

2000-11-29 Thread Brooks Davis

On Wed, Nov 29, 2000 at 05:59:03PM +, Sascha Luck wrote:
 has anyone got the Lucent Orinoco Gold (11MBit/s) PC-Card working 
 with the wi driver in -CURRENT?

They work fine.

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RE: Lucent Orinoco Gold PCCard?

2000-11-29 Thread John Baldwin


On 29-Nov-00 Sascha Luck wrote:
 Hi,
 
 has anyone got the Lucent Orinoco Gold (11MBit/s) PC-Card working 
 with the wi driver in -CURRENT?
 
 I know the Silver and Bronze cards work, but I'm thinking of buying
 the Gold for the 128 bit encryption...
 
 Cheers,
 
 Sascha

I'm sending this e-mail over a WaveLAN Gold, and from my understanding the
Orinoco card is the same card with a different name and a different sticker, so
it should work fine.

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