Re: How to disable UDMA for HDD?

2004-08-13 Thread Stevan Tiefert
On Thursday 12 August 2004 19:11, Chuck Swiger wrote:
 Stevan Tiefert wrote:
 [ ... ]

  you did not understood what I wanted. I needed a suggestion how to
  install FreeBSD without UDMA-support. Your suggestion is only useful if
  the system is running, but that was not the case!

 What happens if you configure the BIOS of the system not to use UDMA modes
 for that device?  Most BIOSes will let you control individual devices, so
 set whatever it is to PIO4; otherwise, disable UDMA for everything long
 enough to complete the install, and then tweak things from there.

Hello Chuck,

it is right, if you say that BIOSes provide switching between PIO0 to PIO4, 
but there is no way to control UDMA in a BIOS. Anyway, it doesn't matter, 
because every Operating System (without DOS) is taking control after the 
bootstrap over the hardware and even FreeBSD. If the kernel is taking 
control, switches have to take in the kernel described in the e-mail from 
Nathan at the loader prompt:

set hw.ata.ata_dma=0

Bye
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Re: no keyboard after boot

2004-08-13 Thread Oliver Fuchs
On Thu, 12 Aug 2004, Alex Melkomukov wrote:

 Hello All,
 
 I have a strange situation where the PS/2 keyboard stops working after
 booting to FreeBSD.  There is no mouse.
 
 It works fine during POST, I can navigate and set BIOS settings, and can
 even hit the 'enter' key to start booting FreeBSD immediately, but once
 the machine starts booting the OS, the lights on the keyboard flash, then
 go away, no more keyboard.
 
 
 running OS is FreeBSD 4.3-RELEASE
 
 
 I don't see anything in the kernel config file that would disable the
 keyboard, and this is what I see in dmesg:
 
 
 atkbdc0: Keyboard controller (i8042) at port 0x60,0x64 on isa0
 atkbd0: AT Keyboard flags 0x1 irq 1 on atkbdc0
 device_probe_and_attach: atkbd0 attach returned 6
 
 
 I have not been succesfull in finding any documentation that covers what
 
 
 device_probe_and_attach: atkbd0 attach returned 6
 
 
 actually means.  Anyone on this list know?  Any other ideas, suggestions
 on how to resolve this?  what to look for?  where to find documentation?
 
 any help would be appreciated.
 
 Alex M.


Hi,

I had the same problem that while booting up I was loosing my keyboard.
As far as I can remember I changed in /boot/device.hints the entry:

from
hint.atkbd.0.flags=0x1
to
hint.atkbd.0.flags=0x0

Oliver
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Strange prompt behavior in tcsh

2004-08-13 Thread Roger Merritt
I recently installed the port shells/tcshrc, and ever since I've been 
getting some funny output on the console whenever I change directories:

kepler:/root# echo $SHELL
/bin/tcsh
kepler:/root# cd /etc
\033]2;KEPLER - /etc\007kepler:/etc#
kepler:/etc# cd
\033]2;KEPLER - /root\007kepler:/root#
kepler:/root#
The prompt setting in .tcshrc.set is %B%m%b:%S%/%s%# .
Obviously it's no huge thing, but why am I seeing the \033]2...\007 string 
after 'cd'ing? Before I installed the port, my .tcshrc set the prompt to 
[EMAIL PROTECTED]:%~%#  and I didn't get the literal string. Now it only shows on the 
first prompt after I 'cd', and after that the prompt seems to work right. 
Obviously the port sets something else, but before I start digging, has 
anyone else solved this?

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can I reinstall make?

2004-08-13 Thread Roger Merritt
I think the 'make' program on one of my machines (running FreeBSD 4.10) has 
gotten farkled. I made the mistake of running 'portupgrade -a' and now the 
whole system is a mess -- among other things it uninstalled  my 'perl 
5.8.5'. Actually, it uninstalled a lot of things and then quit on an error 
without reinstalling them. Luckily none of the things are things I use 
every day.

When I ran 'portversion -c  needs.update' it told me I needed to upgrade 
both 'autoconf' and 'automake', so I switched to /usr/ports and ran:

[EMAIL PROTECTED]:/usr/ports# make search name=autoconf
Missing }.
[EMAIL PROTECTED]:/usr/ports# make search name=automake
Missing }.
[EMAIL PROTECTED]:/usr/ports# cd devel/autoconf253
[EMAIL PROTECTED]:/usr/ports/devel/autoconf253# make install clean
Missing }.
[EMAIL PROTECTED]:/usr/ports/devel/autoconf253# cd ../../lang/perl5.8
[EMAIL PROTECTED]:/usr/ports/lang/perl5.8# make deinstall
Missing }.
This doesn't look good. At the moment the machine is still fulfilling its 
main function as a gateway to the Internet for the Windows machines in our 
student computer lab, but I fear for the future. How can I be sure the 
problem is really with 'make' and how can I fix the problem if it is?

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Re: can I reinstall make?

2004-08-13 Thread Remko Lodder
Roger Merritt wrote:
[EMAIL PROTECTED]:/usr/ports/devel/autoconf253# cd ../../lang/perl5.8
[EMAIL PROTECTED]:/usr/ports/lang/perl5.8# make deinstall
Missing }.
This doesn't look good. At the moment the machine is still fulfilling 
its main function as a gateway to the Internet for the Windows machines 
in our student computer lab, but I fear for the future. How can I be 
sure the problem is really with 'make' and how can I fix the problem if 
it is?

It seems that it can't interpret the Makefile enough, or that there is a 
dependency which has a missing }.

Did you try updating the ports sources via cvsup? If not, perhaps you 
can try that so you will have latest ports sources, which might have
this issue corrected. If not, you can also go to the ftp servers of 
freebsd, and download the /distfile you need (automake and autoconf for 
example) and install them with pkg_install filename
That way you have a precompiled binary, which you can use, so that 
perhaps the issue goes away.

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Trouble inet6

2004-08-13 Thread Anton Kazak
Good afternoon! Probably my question dummy, but I shall set it.
I have FreeBSD 5.2.1., Xorg from ports, KDE. Xorg log-file  contains lines:

--
_XSERVTransSocketOpenCOTSServer: Unable to open socket for inet6
_XSERVTransOpen: transport open failed for inet6/P-III.home.my:0
_XSERVTransMakeAllCOTSServerListeners: failed to open listener for inet6
--

If at compilling of my kernel I include an option options INET6, that my
user-ppp starts to call to the provider. It is connected with Xorg and KDM.
127.0.0.1 is registered.

Probably somebody will help me?
It is thankful in advance.
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Running Mozilla FireBird 6.1.6 Under Linux Emulation On FreeBSD 4.10

2004-08-13 Thread Rob DeMarco

Hello Questions,

I wanted to run Mozilla FireBird 6.1.6 under Linux emulation so
that I could use the Flash plugin.  I installed linux_base-6.1_6
from the 4-stable packages directory and downloaded FireBird.  But
FireBird required a later version of Linux emulation (7.???) that
I could only find in the 5-stable directory.

Will Linux emulation be updated for FreeBSD 4-stable?  I assume
I can't install the latest version since it's apparently for 5.0
and later.

I tried the Gnu version of Flash (`libflash-0.4_10') and the
appropriate mozilla-flash plugin but it doesn't seem to work.

Thanks,

-Rob

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Re: no keyboard after boot

2004-08-13 Thread Ruben de Groot
On Fri, Aug 13, 2004 at 08:31:31AM +0200, Oliver Fuchs typed:
 On Thu, 12 Aug 2004, Alex Melkomukov wrote:
 
  Hello All,
  
  I have a strange situation where the PS/2 keyboard stops working after
  booting to FreeBSD.  There is no mouse.
  
  It works fine during POST, I can navigate and set BIOS settings, and can
  even hit the 'enter' key to start booting FreeBSD immediately, but once
  the machine starts booting the OS, the lights on the keyboard flash, then
  go away, no more keyboard.
  
  
  running OS is FreeBSD 4.3-RELEASE
  
  
  I don't see anything in the kernel config file that would disable the
  keyboard, and this is what I see in dmesg:
  
  
  atkbdc0: Keyboard controller (i8042) at port 0x60,0x64 on isa0
  atkbd0: AT Keyboard flags 0x1 irq 1 on atkbdc0
  device_probe_and_attach: atkbd0 attach returned 6
  
  
  I have not been succesfull in finding any documentation that covers what
  
  
  device_probe_and_attach: atkbd0 attach returned 6
  
  
  actually means.  Anyone on this list know?  Any other ideas, suggestions
  on how to resolve this?  what to look for?  where to find documentation?
  
  any help would be appreciated.
  
  Alex M.
 
 
 Hi,
 
 I had the same problem that while booting up I was loosing my keyboard.
 As far as I can remember I changed in /boot/device.hints the entry:
 
 from
 hint.atkbd.0.flags=0x1
 to
 hint.atkbd.0.flags=0x0

That won't help him; he's on 4.3-RELEASE where there's no device.hints file.
To the OP: have you tried google ?

http://www.google.com/search?q=%22atkbd0+attach+returned+6%22

Also, you might want to check the mailing list archives.

http://freebsd.rambler.ru

cheers,
Ruben
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Webinterface for sasldb

2004-08-13 Thread Alex Huth
Hi guys!

I'm looking for a webinterface for users to change their password in 
Courier/Cyrus-IMAP (over sasl). 

Background: I have to implement a IMAP-Solution for ~60 Users. They must be 
able to change their passwords over www. They are no UNIX-Accounts for them 
on the mailserver.

Greetings 

Alex Huth
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Re: can I reinstall make?

2004-08-13 Thread Ruben de Groot
 Roger Merritt wrote:
 
 [EMAIL PROTECTED]:/usr/ports/devel/autoconf253# cd ../../lang/perl5.8
 [EMAIL PROTECTED]:/usr/ports/lang/perl5.8# make deinstall
 Missing }.
 
 This doesn't look good. At the moment the machine is still fulfilling 
 its main function as a gateway to the Internet for the Windows machines 
 in our student computer lab, but I fear for the future. How can I be 
 sure the problem is really with 'make' and how can I fix the problem if 
 it is?

To reinstall the original make, there's 2 options.

1) if you compiled from sources, all you need to do is

cp /usr/obj/usr/src/usr.bin/make/make /usr/bin/

2) if you installed from CD, mount the cd, go to the /bin directory
   on the CD and issue the command

cat bin.?? | tar --unlink -xpzf - -C / ./usr/bin/make

G'luck,

Ruben

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Looking for commercial code gone open source

2004-08-13 Thread Jonathon McKitrick

Does anyone know where there are any web-accessible examples of large or
medium sized commercial software products that have been open sourced?

I'd like to see some examples of code that were not written from the
beginning with the intention of being open source.

jm
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Re: IBM x306 with Serial ATA Drives

2004-08-13 Thread David Kelly
On Aug 13, 2004, at 12:15 AM, eric wrote:
On Thu, 2004-08-12 at 23:46:36 -0500, David Kelly proclaimed...
What does the machine BIOS say? On Dell 400SC one has to enable the
SATA interfaces in BIOS before any OS can see them.
Yea, everthing is enabled and I build a single logical disk out of
the two disks.
Why didn't you say so in the first place? Clearly whatever SATA RAID 
controller you are using is not recognized. It might work if the RAID 
is not enabled.

Then once FreeBSD is up you can implement your RAID in software with 
vinum.

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Re: Looking for commercial code gone open source

2004-08-13 Thread Peter Risdon
Jonathon McKitrick wrote:
Does anyone know where there are any web-accessible examples of large or
medium sized commercial software products that have been open sourced?
I'd like to see some examples of code that were not written from the
beginning with the intention of being open source.
jm
I'm not sure how well this will meet your criteria, but Star Office 
began as a closed cource commercial product and, while under that name 
it remains commercial, Open Office is an open source version.

However, I think the code base has changed significantly prior to it 
becoming open source.

Peter.
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Re: Strange prompt behavior in tcsh

2004-08-13 Thread epilogue
On Fri, 13 Aug 2004 14:50:28 +0700
Roger Merritt [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

 I recently installed the port shells/tcshrc, and ever since I've been 
 getting some funny output on the console whenever I change directories:
 
 kepler:/root# echo $SHELL
 /bin/tcsh
 kepler:/root# cd /etc
 \033]2;KEPLER - /etc\007kepler:/etc#
 kepler:/etc# cd
 \033]2;KEPLER - /root\007kepler:/root#
 kepler:/root#
 
 The prompt setting in .tcshrc.set is %B%m%b:%S%/%s%# .

given that %B starts boldfacing and %b ends it (ie. where your problem
seems to start and end), my guess would be that your console setting does
not support boldfacing.

 Obviously it's no huge thing, but why am I seeing the \033]2...\007
 string after 'cd'ing? Before I installed the port, my .tcshrc set the
 prompt to [EMAIL PROTECTED]:%~%#  and I didn't get the literal string. Now it only
 shows on the first prompt after I 'cd', and after that the prompt seems
 to work right. Obviously the port sets something else, but before I start
 digging, has anyone else solved this?

actually, i think that the preferred order would be to dig first and ask
questions later.;)


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Re: Looking for commercial code gone open source

2004-08-13 Thread Jonathon McKitrick
On Fri, Aug 13, 2004 at 01:16:40PM +0100, Peter Risdon wrote:
: Jonathon McKitrick wrote:
: Does anyone know where there are any web-accessible examples of large or
: medium sized commercial software products that have been open sourced?
: 
: I'd like to see some examples of code that were not written from the
: beginning with the intention of being open source.
: 
: jm
: 
: I'm not sure how well this will meet your criteria, but Star Office 
: began as a closed cource commercial product and, while under that name 
: it remains commercial, Open Office is an open source version.
: 
: However, I think the code base has changed significantly prior to it 
: becoming open source.

I forgot all about that one.

I wonder if it is web accessible and browsable.  I doubt it, but it would be
nice.  Good example, though.  I check it out.



jm
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RE: ADSL internet + router

2004-08-13 Thread Ralph Hempel
 Am about to get an ADSL internet connection... there are two devices 
 available, an ADSL modem and a router... the modem should not have a problem 
 to work (I have one at office), but have a doubt with the router and don't 
 know which device aquire...
 
 I have my local network configured with private addresses in the range 
 192.168.0.* and GATEWAY=192.168.0.x (the ip of the server with firewall)... 
 My question is... would I be able with the router to use it as gateway 
 without assigning dynamic addresses via DHCP? I want to preserve my static 
 private addresses 192.168.0.* with a GATEWAY=... configuration, is that 
 possible?
 
 In the worst case I can setup a firewall and use one of my computers as 
 gateway with 2 ethernet cards, one for the router and the other for my LAN...

I have an ADSL modem, and I plug that into my wireless router. It's
address is 192.168.1.1 and it acts as the gateway.

I can also configure it (via braowser interface) to forward packets
from the internet to specific machines on my network, on a port
by port basis.

I also use a dynamic DNS service, so that it just magically works. Here's
a little article I worte on it:

http://www.hempeldesigngroup.com/embedded/stories/bdgFreeBSDApache2.html

The dynamic DNS bit is at the end...

Ralph 
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Re: ADSL internet + router

2004-08-13 Thread Peter Risdon
Miguel Cardenas wrote:
Hello list
Am about to get an ADSL internet connection... there are two devices 
available, an ADSL modem and a router... the modem should not have a problem 
to work (I have one at office), but have a doubt with the router and don't 
know which device aquire...
Assuming it's a modem/router with a web management interface, I'd 
recommend using that.

I have my local network configured with private addresses in the range 
192.168.0.* and GATEWAY=192.168.0.x (the ip of the server with firewall)... 
My question is... would I be able with the router to use it as gateway 
without assigning dynamic addresses via DHCP? I want to preserve my static 
private addresses 192.168.0.* with a GATEWAY=... configuration, is that 
possible?
Shouldn't be a problem. Just turn off dhcp on the router and make sure 
the LAN interface is set to the right network. Alternatively, keep dhcp 
on, set to the right network, but set the pool of available addresses to 
exclude the ones you are using at the moment. That way, you have the 
option of using dhcp for any new additions to your network.

Peter.
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Monitor Disk Usage (Unusual Load Avgs)

2004-08-13 Thread Steven Adams
Hi,

Server specs

Dual p4 xeon 2.4 (4virtual cpus)
1gig ecc ram
5x 36gig 10k rpm scsi on a ami megaraid

I only host a few web sites on this server which at the most peak hour of
times there is only about 6-7%cpu usage. For some reason my load avg's will
jump from 0.05 to 0.98 even to 1.50 when the cpu is only using 3%.

I am thinking something is using the hard drive as I have load avg peaks of
6.0-7.0.

I want to find out what is causing this as im curious to why they get so
high. 

Does anyone know how to find out what running processes are using the
harddrive or something like that??

Also how do I check if DMA mode is enabled, I know there is a hdparm in
linux but I cant find anything like that for freebsd..

Thanks for you help
Steve


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Re: Looking for commercial code gone open source

2004-08-13 Thread Bill Moran
Jonathon McKitrick [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

 
 Does anyone know where there are any web-accessible examples of large or
 medium sized commercial software products that have been open sourced?
 
 I'd like to see some examples of code that were not written from the
 beginning with the intention of being open source.

There is a project called opengroupware that followed that evolution.

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Re: Looking for commercial code gone open source

2004-08-13 Thread evil0ne
Hello Jonathon,

Friday, August 13, 2004, 3:10:22 PM, you wrote:


JM Does anyone know where there are any web-accessible examples of large or
JM medium sized commercial software products that have been open sourced?

JM I'd like to see some examples of code that were not written from the
JM beginning with the intention of being open source.

JM jm

check out Shareaza v. 2.0. at  www.shareaza.com

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FreeBSD pcm(4) latency (From write() to audible output)

2004-08-13 Thread Peter Wood
Moved from freebsd-chat:
Quick addition: Had a look through the questions archive, nothing jumped 
out and answered this, but it's possible I missed something.

Good Morning,
I'm currently in the middle of writing an automated radio playout system
for a northern student radio station in the UK (post SBN liquidation).
I have the requirement of it running on a *nix system. I'm a large BSD
advocate between our friends, so would prefer not to use Linux.
The system design consists of a daemon for each soundcard used in the
studio. I'm currently in the process of writing this daemon.
I've found that there is about a 800ms delay between the output data
being written to /dev/dsp and being able to hear the output from the
soundcard on FreeBSD. I'm working to a 200ms deadline.
I'm opening the soundcard with:
audio_fd = open((char *) device, O_WRONLY | O_FSYNC | O_DIRECT);
I've used O_DIRECT and O_FSYNC to try and get rid of this delay, but
alas that didn't work, device is cast as it's coming from a void *
(thanks to pthread_create ;).
The daemon outputs blocks of 0 when there is no actual audio to output
so the sound card is always fed.
While this isn't a problem for mpg123, it is for this application.  I've
tried to find where the delay is, however I haven't had any luck.
Could anyone knowledgable let me know if there's any hope for getting
rid of it (hacking the kernel is fine ;) or if I should give up and go
to linux?
I suppose Linux does have ALSA which claims 2.6ms latency but I was
hoping to just use OSS. Oh well.
For reference the test machine is a 2.2Ghz machine with a AC97 chip
(yeah crap I know, studio playout machines will probably have a Creative
card) running 4.10-STABLE (Yeasturday's cvsup).
My appologies if this isn't the right place, I'm happy to go pester else
where. Heh.
Many thanks,
Pete.
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Re: Looking for commercial code gone open source

2004-08-13 Thread Greg Barniskis
At 07:10 AM 8/13/2004, Jonathon McKitrick wrote:

Does anyone know where there are any web-accessible examples of large or
medium sized commercial software products that have been open sourced?
I'd like to see some examples of code that were not written from the
beginning with the intention of being open source.
While it's not available yet, Sun did announce recently that Solaris would
become open source. They also wouldn't commit to a date when that
would happen; I suspect they're quite busy trying to clean up the kinds of
messy not intended for public view things that you're probably looking for.
Someone else already mentioned StarOffice. Don't forget the Netscape -
Mozilla code path as well. I assume you can still get the original commercial
code base somewhere.

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Internet cafe software for FreeBSD

2004-08-13 Thread Livhu Tshisikule
Hi,

I am looking for internet cafe software for FBSD. I have been surfing the net 
but sofar fruitless. I have the following network setup.
A server and some diskless terminals that uses pxe to boot. I managed to find 
rmonitor which was the closest to what I want. I want to see when users from 
the terminals logged in and out.

Regards
Livhu

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Re: Clock problems [fixed len]

2004-08-13 Thread Kevin D. Kinsey, DaleCo, S.P.
Dark-MiXer wrote:
Hello,
Im having problems with the clock on my FreeBSD 5.1-Release, and as a
newbie in that area I dont have a clue on what could be wrong.
The problem is, that it count too fast. It seem like it's counting 2
times the speed it should.
The FreeBSD is running on an old Gigabyte GA-5AX motherboard with a
AMD K6-400 processor.
Motherboard settings:
CPU100Hz
AGP66Hz
Hope you can give me some hints on what might be done to get the clock
back to normal.
I forgot to mention that it have been like this since I installed it.
Thanks in advance
Lars aka Dark-MiXer
P.S. Sorry for the long line mail.
 

Perhaps an ACPI issue:
http://lists.freebsd.org/pipermail/freebsd-questions/2004-March/040678.html
(Sorry for the long link ;-)  )
On a related note, the 'water is much better' in 5.2.1 --- OTOH,
you may wish to suffer just a little longer until 5.3 comes around
1 October ... ( /me can hardly wait!)
Kevin Kinsey
DaleCo, S.P.
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Re: Monitor Disk Usage (Unusual Load Avgs)

2004-08-13 Thread Kevin D. Kinsey, DaleCo, S.P.
Steven Adams wrote:
Hi,
Server specs
Dual p4 xeon 2.4 (4virtual cpus)
1gig ecc ram
5x 36gig 10k rpm scsi on a ami megaraid
I only host a few web sites on this server which at the most peak hour of
times there is only about 6-7%cpu usage. For some reason my load avg's will
jump from 0.05 to 0.98 even to 1.50 when the cpu is only using 3%.
I am thinking something is using the hard drive as I have load avg peaks of
6.0-7.0.
I want to find out what is causing this as im curious to why they get so
high. 

Does anyone know how to find out what running processes are using the
harddrive or something like that??
Also how do I check if DMA mode is enabled, I know there is a hdparm in
linux but I cant find anything like that for freebsd..
Thanks for you help
Steve
 

As for that last, I'm sure there are probably several
ways, but I'm a simpleton.  Why not:
% dmesg | grep DMA
atapci0: SiS 962/963 UDMA133 controller port 0x4000-0x400f,0x374-0x377,
  0x170-0x177,0x3f4-0x3f7,0x1f0-0x1f7 at device 2.5 on pci0
ad0: 38166MB ST340014A [77545/16/63] at ata0-master UDMA100
Hrmm, I need to see if my disk'll go faster ... ;-)
Kevin Kinsey
PS  Incidentally, what's up with this?
% finger [EMAIL PROTECTED]
[freebsd.org]
finger: drift: no such user
I'm leaving that address in, just in case something's
not quite right with finger(1)*, but whassup if it's
*correct*??
(*which is entirely possible, I suppose)
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Re: /etc and /usr/local/etc directories

2004-08-13 Thread Scott Mitchell
On Fri, Aug 13, 2004 at 03:42:52AM +0200, Danny Pansters wrote:
 
 For system (OS, that's kernel and userland) settings you have /etc
 For local (packages/ports) settings you have /usr/local/etc or /usr/X11R6/etc
 
 Of course these two local bases should have been merely hard linked long ago 
 but that's not my decision :)

One very good reason to keep these separate is that you might be mounting
/usr/{local,X11R6} on many machines from a shared NFS drive.  By keeping the
shared configuration on the shared drive you don't have to replicate it on
every machine, and /etc just contains machine-specific configuration.

Cheers,

Scott

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Re: FreeBSD pcm(4) latency (From write() to audible output)

2004-08-13 Thread Dan Nelson
In the last episode (Aug 13), Peter Wood said:
 I'm currently in the middle of writing an automated radio playout
 system for a northern student radio station in the UK (post SBN
 liquidation).
 
 I have the requirement of it running on a *nix system. I'm a large
 BSD advocate between our friends, so would prefer not to use Linux.
 
 The system design consists of a daemon for each soundcard used in the
 studio. I'm currently in the process of writing this daemon.
 
 I've found that there is about a 800ms delay between the output data
 being written to /dev/dsp and being able to hear the output from the
 soundcard on FreeBSD. I'm working to a 200ms deadline.
 
 I'm opening the soundcard with:
 
 audio_fd = open((char *) device, O_WRONLY | O_FSYNC | O_DIRECT);
 
 I've used O_DIRECT and O_FSYNC to try and get rid of this delay, but
 alas that didn't work, device is cast as it's coming from a void *
 (thanks to pthread_create ;).

What's your write size?  At 44100khz*2 channels, a 65k write would take
around 800 ms to play.  Try writing smaller chunks, or maybe raise
hw.snd.targetirqrate.

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Freebsd 4.10 release(do you know any browser with flash support???)

2004-08-13 Thread Mark Jayson Alvarez
Hi,
  I'm using quanta to develop html applications with
embedded .swf in it. What I want to do is to see its
preview in a browser while I'm doing the programming
in quanta. The problem is.. I don't know if there's
any browser that supports it. The konqueror flash
plugin instruction in freebsd.kde.org requires
specific version of freebsd(5.1,4.9 stable). My
problem is, I'm using freebsd 4.10 release. I tried
that instruction, but it didn't worked(of course after
successfully installing flashplugin. 
   Do you have any brighter idea instead of just doing
the whole html programming in Windows and avoid having
problems with flash animations? Because I'm just a
begginer html programmer and I find kde's quanta, so
helpful specially in automatically displaying possible
attributes of an element. 

Any browser? In freebsd 4.10???

Thanks a lot..
-jay=)




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Access Denied when using gmake

2004-08-13 Thread Mohammed Shaikh
I am running gmake on freebsd from a folder and the makefile tries to access
the perl file two levels up and I am getting access denied. I get this even
when I login as su.
./../bin/extract_obj_names.pl: Permission denied
gmake: *** [elf/rt_obj.txt] Error 126

Can anyone help me circumvent this problem?

Thanks
Mohammad Shaikh


-Original Message-
From: Bill Moran [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] 
Sent: Thursday, August 12, 2004 10:30 AM
To: Mohammadparvez Shaikh
Cc: [EMAIL PROTECTED]; [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: Re: make issues on freebsd

Mohammadparvez Shaikh [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 
 Thanks a lot. I got the gmake installed successfully. But now the issue is

 that when I run:
 gmake -f common.mak I get
 
 gmake: Circular common.mak - common.mak dependency dropped.
 
 How can I work around this issue

Are you serious?  Are we supposed to be psychic?

If you want us to debug your Makefile, you're going to have to show us
your Makefile.

However, are you sure you know what you're doing?  What is this software
you're trying to compile?  Have you read the install docs?  The syntax
you describe is not typical at all, and is probably not right.  What
makes you think that gmake should be using common.mak?  That looks like
an included file to me (just based on the name).

Most software from the GNU world require the following incantation:
/configure
gmake
gmake install

 -Original Message-
 From: Bill Moran [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
 Sent: Wednesday, August 11, 2004 6:58 PM
 To: Mohammed Shaikh (Satyam Computer Services)
 Cc: [EMAIL PROTECTED]; [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 Subject: Re: make issues on freebsd
 
 Mohammed Shaikh (Satyam Computer Services) [EMAIL PROTECTED]
wrote:
 
 I tried exactly what you said.
 Make install clean
 
 But it tried to search for make-3.80.tar.bz2 and tried fetching over the
 net and did not find it. (I think because of our firewall). Now I have
 ftp'd the file in the /usr/ports/distfiles/ the above file and tried
 running it and found that it has dependencies on gettext.
 I copied gettext* there and tried installing gettext and found it has
 dependencies on some other stuff.
 
 Lucky for you, you're not the first person to have this problem, thus
 there are many workarounds.  First off, I apologize, I forgot that gmake
 created such a large dependency tree.
 
 First off, if you have a FreeBSD CD, the required files may be on it in
 the /distfiles directory, and you can copy them from there.
 
 Otherwise, it's possible to install gmake from the packages collection.
 The easiest way to do this is to run /stand/sysinstall  You can then
 choose to load the packages from a CD, or FTP (you might want to try
 FTP-passive)  Once in sysinstall, go to Configure, then Packages and
 what you choose after that depends on where you want to try to get the
 packages from.  If they're not on the CD, exit sysinstall and restart
 it, choosing FTP-passive.
 
 The gmake package is in devel section, same as in ports.  If you don't
 see it in the listing, it's because it's not available on the media
 you selected.  Exit sysinstall and restart, choosing a different media.
 I know it's on the FTP sites for sure, but you may have trouble
 accessing them.
 
 How and where I can get everything from, so that I can get this running.
 I AM NOT JOKING.
 
 I'm just a bit amazed that this is coming from microsoft.com ... that's
all.
 
 HTH
 
 I don't know stuff about unix world as I am new.
 Appreciate your help friends!!
 
 Thanks a lot
 Mohammad Shaikh
   -Original Message-
 From: Bill Moran [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Wednesday,
August 
 11, 2004 5:40 PM
 To: Mohammed Shaikh (Satyam Computer Services)
 Cc: [EMAIL PROTECTED]; [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 Subject: Re: make issues on freebsd
 
 Mohammed Shaikh (Satyam Computer Services) [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 wrote:
 ^
  Is this a joke?
 
   What is the best place to get it? I tried
   www.freshports.org/devel/gmake/
But I got confused as there are too many links and its not clear
what
   exactly to do, to get it installed on my freebsd machine. I am
   relatively a newbie so please help
 
 Stop making your life difficult:
 
 cd /usr/ports/devel/gmake  make install clean
 
 then use gmake instead of make.
 
   -Original Message-
   From: Pat Lashley [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]  Sent: Wednesday, 
 August 11, 2004 5:25 PM
   To: Mohammed Shaikh (Satyam Computer Services);
   [EMAIL PROTECTED]
   Subject: Re: make issues on freebsd
--On Wednesday, August 11, 2004 17:19:52 -0700 Mohammed Shaikh
 (Satyam
   Computer Services) [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 I have a program that can be compiled with no problems on SuSe
Linux
   but
when I try it on freebsd it gives plethora of errors. I have just
   copied
the whole directory tree from SuSe Linux machine onto freebsd
 machine.
Can Anyone PLEASE help as I have to submit the compiled 

Re: /etc and /usr/local/etc directories

2004-08-13 Thread Jim Trigg
On Fri, Aug 13, 2004 at 04:03:51PM +0100, Scott Mitchell wrote:
 On Fri, Aug 13, 2004 at 03:42:52AM +0200, Danny Pansters wrote:
  
  For system (OS, that's kernel and userland) settings you have /etc
  For local (packages/ports) settings you have /usr/local/etc or /usr/X11R6/etc
  
  Of course these two local bases should have been merely hard linked long ago 
  but that's not my decision :)
 
 One very good reason to keep these separate is that you might be mounting
 /usr/{local,X11R6} on many machines from a shared NFS drive.  By keeping the
 shared configuration on the shared drive you don't have to replicate it on
 every machine, and /etc just contains machine-specific configuration.

But most of what's in /usr/local/etc is machine-specific.  Personally,
on the next rebuild I intend to make /usr/local/etc a symbolic link to
/etc/local.  (Then again, I plan to use /opt for third-party applications
and /usr/local only for locally-developed applications.  /opt/etc will be
a symbolic link to /etc/opt as well.)

Note that I'm using a symbolic link; this is because /etc is on the
root filesystem while /usr and /opt will be separate filesystems.

Jim
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Re: FreeBSD pcm(4) latency (From write() to audible output)

2004-08-13 Thread Peter Wood
Heya Dan,
I've found that there is about a 800ms delay between the output data
being written to /dev/dsp and being able to hear the output from the
soundcard on FreeBSD. I'm working to a 200ms deadline.
What's your write size?  At 44100khz*2 channels, a 65k write would take
around 800 ms to play.  Try writing smaller chunks, or maybe raise
hw.snd.targetirqrate.
Don't I feel like a dunce right now. I forgot the cardinal rule of 
reproducing my results with other software. I tried the same file with 
XMMS and it played instantly.

My problem was primarly due to the fragment sizes of buffers. I don't 
know what sizes are set as default but they're to big for my 
applpications. I've found with:

val = (2  16) | 9;
ioctl(audio_fd, SNDCTL_DSP_SETFRAGMENT, val);
It kills the delay to next to nothing. As far as I understand this, and 
it's not well, the above means use a maximum of 2 fragments and each 
fragment should be 2^9 large (ie 512 bytes long).

Which I figure to be 1204 bytes total for buffer (or 5ms).
It still doesn't happen that quickly for me, but what I'd imagin is 
delaying it now (and is my problem) is the write() I'm doing. As I'm 
writing 20ms of Audio out at any time, so I'm waiting for that to complete.

Thanks for the suggestion Dan, helped a lot.
Andreas, this will be your problem to for your guitar problem, try using 
the above code (add error checks, it can fail on some hardware 
(statically set fragments)).

I also managed to find the guide to OSS at 
http://www.opensound.com/pguide/oss.pdf, I shall be looking there before 
asking here again, don't worry.

Off to knock the dust of my dunce cap off,
Pete.
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Re: perl question

2004-08-13 Thread Bart Silverstrim
On Aug 13, 2004, at 1:10 AM, AlanSung wrote:
IMHO, bsdpan-* means install via cpan directory (not via ports),
p5-* means installed from ports..
Okay.  Nuts.  That's what I was afraid of.
I guess I was a little thrown because the bsdpan modules are showing up 
with portversion and portupgrade, which I had always associated with 
just the ports database and ports collection.

And yes, if you can find expected module in ports tree, it is better
install from ports than install from cpan driectly..
Okay...question...
When I set up this server, it was (at the time) just for the purpose of 
this portal server (web based).  I followed their directions for Linux 
and FreeBSD, and did it to the letter, etc...a lot of install this and 
this from CPAN using this command line instruction... etc. etc.

In this case, R'ing the F'ing M was apparently a bad idea :-(  Wish 
this server software were available as a port!

Anyway, I am tentatively hoping to replace the bsdpan modules with 
ports' p5 modules.  Is there a method AND ORDER to best attempt this, 
so the application (hopefully) won't break?  I don't want to install a 
p5 port and remove a bsdpan module only to have the bsdpan module erase 
parts of the p5 modules in the process :-(

-Bart
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Re: Access Denied when using gmake

2004-08-13 Thread Bill Moran
Mohammed Shaikh [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

 I am running gmake on freebsd from a folder and the makefile tries to access
 the perl file two levels up and I am getting access denied. I get this even
 when I login as su.
 ./../bin/extract_obj_names.pl: Permission denied
 gmake: *** [elf/rt_obj.txt] Error 126
 
 Can anyone help me circumvent this problem?

Give the appropriate files execute permission.  See man chmod if you're
not sure how to do that.

 
 Thanks
 Mohammad Shaikh
 
 
 -Original Message-
 From: Bill Moran [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] 
 Sent: Thursday, August 12, 2004 10:30 AM
 To: Mohammadparvez Shaikh
 Cc: [EMAIL PROTECTED]; [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 Subject: Re: make issues on freebsd
 
 Mohammadparvez Shaikh [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
  
  Thanks a lot. I got the gmake installed successfully. But now the issue is
 
  that when I run:
  gmake -f common.mak I get
  
  gmake: Circular common.mak - common.mak dependency dropped.
  
  How can I work around this issue
 
 Are you serious?  Are we supposed to be psychic?
 
 If you want us to debug your Makefile, you're going to have to show us
 your Makefile.
 
 However, are you sure you know what you're doing?  What is this software
 you're trying to compile?  Have you read the install docs?  The syntax
 you describe is not typical at all, and is probably not right.  What
 makes you think that gmake should be using common.mak?  That looks like
 an included file to me (just based on the name).
 
 Most software from the GNU world require the following incantation:
 /configure
 gmake
 gmake install
 
  -Original Message-
  From: Bill Moran [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
  Sent: Wednesday, August 11, 2004 6:58 PM
  To: Mohammed Shaikh (Satyam Computer Services)
  Cc: [EMAIL PROTECTED]; [EMAIL PROTECTED]
  Subject: Re: make issues on freebsd
  
  Mohammed Shaikh (Satyam Computer Services) [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 wrote:
  
  I tried exactly what you said.
  Make install clean
  
  But it tried to search for make-3.80.tar.bz2 and tried fetching over the
  net and did not find it. (I think because of our firewall). Now I have
  ftp'd the file in the /usr/ports/distfiles/ the above file and tried
  running it and found that it has dependencies on gettext.
  I copied gettext* there and tried installing gettext and found it has
  dependencies on some other stuff.
  
  Lucky for you, you're not the first person to have this problem, thus
  there are many workarounds.  First off, I apologize, I forgot that gmake
  created such a large dependency tree.
  
  First off, if you have a FreeBSD CD, the required files may be on it in
  the /distfiles directory, and you can copy them from there.
  
  Otherwise, it's possible to install gmake from the packages collection.
  The easiest way to do this is to run /stand/sysinstall  You can then
  choose to load the packages from a CD, or FTP (you might want to try
  FTP-passive)  Once in sysinstall, go to Configure, then Packages and
  what you choose after that depends on where you want to try to get the
  packages from.  If they're not on the CD, exit sysinstall and restart
  it, choosing FTP-passive.
  
  The gmake package is in devel section, same as in ports.  If you don't
  see it in the listing, it's because it's not available on the media
  you selected.  Exit sysinstall and restart, choosing a different media.
  I know it's on the FTP sites for sure, but you may have trouble
  accessing them.
  
  How and where I can get everything from, so that I can get this running.
  I AM NOT JOKING.
  
  I'm just a bit amazed that this is coming from microsoft.com ... that's
 all.
  
  HTH
  
  I don't know stuff about unix world as I am new.
  Appreciate your help friends!!
  
  Thanks a lot
  Mohammad Shaikh
-Original Message-
  From: Bill Moran [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Wednesday,
 August 
  11, 2004 5:40 PM
  To: Mohammed Shaikh (Satyam Computer Services)
  Cc: [EMAIL PROTECTED]; [EMAIL PROTECTED]
  Subject: Re: make issues on freebsd
  
  Mohammed Shaikh (Satyam Computer Services) [EMAIL PROTECTED]
  wrote:
  ^
   Is this a joke?
  
What is the best place to get it? I tried
www.freshports.org/devel/gmake/
 But I got confused as there are too many links and its not clear
 what
exactly to do, to get it installed on my freebsd machine. I am
relatively a newbie so please help
  
  Stop making your life difficult:
  
  cd /usr/ports/devel/gmake  make install clean
  
  then use gmake instead of make.
  
-Original Message-
From: Pat Lashley [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]  Sent: Wednesday, 
  August 11, 2004 5:25 PM
To: Mohammed Shaikh (Satyam Computer Services);
[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: Re: make issues on freebsd
 --On Wednesday, August 11, 2004 17:19:52 -0700 Mohammed Shaikh
  (Satyam
Computer Services) [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
  I have a 

Re: mod_perl HELP!

2004-08-13 Thread Bart Silverstrim
On Aug 13, 2004, at 12:02 AM, jason wrote:
Bart Silverstrim wrote:
Can someone help?  When I try going into /usr/ports/www/mod_perl and 
make install, I get:
===  Installing for mod_perl-1.29
===   mod_perl-1.29 depends on file: /usr/local/sbin/apxs - found
===   mod_perl-1.29 depends on file: 
/usr/local/lib/perl5/site_perl/5.8.4/LWP.pm - found
===   mod_perl-1.29 depends on file: /usr/local/bin/perl5.8.4 - found
===   mod_perl-1.29 depends on file: /usr/local/bin/perl5.8.4 - found
===   Generating temporary packing list
===  Checking if www/mod_perl already installed
(cd ./apaci  
PERL5LIB=/usr/ports/www/mod_perl/work/mod_perl-1.29/lib: make)
make: don't know how to make 
/usr/local/lib/perl5/5.8.4/mach/Config.pm. Stop
*** Error code 2

I think the problem is that PERL is now at 5.8.5; when trying to 
portupgrade apache, I had an error to the effect that it couldn't 
find a perl 5.8.4 binary, and when I symlinked perl.5.8.4 to 
perl.5.8.5, it installed from ports.  But mod_perl refuses.  Is his a 
ports problem??

Can someone confirm this error?
System:
4.9-RELEASE-p9 FreeBSD 4.9-RELEASE-p9
-Bart
Don't link stuff like perl unless you know what you are doing.  Read 
the usr/ports/UPDATING for info on perl. To make things easy on you 
what version of perl is listed in you /etc/make.conf, is it 5.8.4?  
You then want to install the new port of perl and then type $use.perl 
port in the work dir(I think) to tell bsd you have 5.8.5.  Check 
make.conf to see if it is updated, it wasn't for me so I changed it by 
hand.  $perl -v should id itself as the right version.  You must also 
rebuild every port that depends on perl.  There is a 3 line 
portupgrade command in UPDATING that I could not get to work so I 
upgraded them all.  That takes a while with over 200 ports.
I never *know* what I'm doing.  The seat of my pants have wings :-)
I did just recently update to perl 5.8.5 (via portupgrade).  I have 
since done a make deinstall, make clean, and make reinstall on it as 
well.  It should be in the updates.

I think there's a make or conf file calling for that condition to be 
checked as a dependency.  It seems to work properly with that link, 
once it got by the check stage of the make.  I didn't like that 
workaround either, but making all those ports via 
deinstall/clean/install still wasn't fixing the error.  :-/

The second problem is that this server, due to following instructions 
from the software installed on it, had some bsdpan modules installed on 
it that are screwing with the port database (missing origins, etc.) and 
I'm trying to gauge whether I can install all the p5 modules instead of 
bsdpan modules to replace them and if so how to remove the bsdpan 
modules without interfering with the ports version.  so far when I slam 
into an error I've been able to go into the ports tree and uninstall 
then clean then install and that seems to clear it up (and hopefully 
get the ports database into a consistent state).

*sigh*  This is experience, it's a good thing...this is experience, 
it's a good thing...

-Bart
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5.2.1 pccard woes, -current iso?

2004-08-13 Thread Sam
Greetings,
I'm trying to get pccard networking up on my laptop (Thinkpad 600E).
Ifconfig -a doesn't show anything despite two cards plugged, and I
think this is why:
# dmesg | grep pccard
pccard0: 16-bit PCCard bus on cbb0
pccard1: 16-bit PCCard bus on cbb1
pccard0: Card has no functions!
pccard1: Card has no functions!
I've seen a list message indicating that -current has fixed this.
Unfortunately no-networking precludes cvsup.
If -current indeed has a fix for this, can someone
either a) tell me where I can find a -current iso, or
b) tell me where I can get the latest pccard sources so I can
patch 5.2.1 -release myself?
Any other ideas warmly welcomed.
Cheers,
Sam
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Re: Running Mozilla FireBird 6.1.6 Under Linux Emulation On FreeBSD 4.10

2004-08-13 Thread Paul Mather
On Fri, 13 Aug 2004 04:03:01 +, Rob DeMarco
[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

 I wanted to run Mozilla FireBird 6.1.6 under Linux emulation so
 that I could use the Flash plugin.  I installed linux_base-6.1_6
 from the 4-stable packages directory and downloaded FireBird.  But
 FireBird required a later version of Linux emulation (7.???) that
 I could only find in the 5-stable directory.
 
 Will Linux emulation be updated for FreeBSD 4-stable?  I assume
 I can't install the latest version since it's apparently for 5.0
 and later.

I am using linux_base-8-8.0_4 on my FreeBSD 4.10-STABLE system, so I can
confirm that it is possible to use something more recent that
linux_base-6.  (In fact, the default linux_base is 7.)

It looks like you have the emulators/linux_base package already
installed, but it is back from when 6, not 7 used to be the default. 
You should be able to use portupgrade to upgrade your linux_base-6.1_6
to a more recent version.  This does assume you have the ports tree
installed (and preferably up to date via cvsup) under /usr/ports...

If you don't have portupgrade (sysutils/portupgrade), then you should
install it.  It's really useful!

Cheers,

Paul.
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RE: Access Denied when using gmake

2004-08-13 Thread Mohammed Shaikh

That did work and I am able to compile now. Thanks for all the inputs you
have been providing me. 


Thanks a lot
Mohammad Shaikh

-Original Message-
From: Bill Moran [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] 
Sent: Friday, August 13, 2004 8:41 AM
To: Mohammed Shaikh
Cc: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: Re: Access Denied when using gmake

Mohammed Shaikh [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

 I am running gmake on freebsd from a folder and the makefile tries to
access
 the perl file two levels up and I am getting access denied. I get this
even
 when I login as su.
 ./../bin/extract_obj_names.pl: Permission denied
 gmake: *** [elf/rt_obj.txt] Error 126
 
 Can anyone help me circumvent this problem?

Give the appropriate files execute permission.  See man chmod if you're
not sure how to do that.

 
 Thanks
 Mohammad Shaikh
 
 
 -Original Message-
 From: Bill Moran [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] 
 Sent: Thursday, August 12, 2004 10:30 AM
 To: Mohammadparvez Shaikh
 Cc: [EMAIL PROTECTED]; [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 Subject: Re: make issues on freebsd
 
 Mohammadparvez Shaikh [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
  
  Thanks a lot. I got the gmake installed successfully. But now the issue
is
 
  that when I run:
  gmake -f common.mak I get
  
  gmake: Circular common.mak - common.mak dependency dropped.
  
  How can I work around this issue
 
 Are you serious?  Are we supposed to be psychic?
 
 If you want us to debug your Makefile, you're going to have to show us
 your Makefile.
 
 However, are you sure you know what you're doing?  What is this software
 you're trying to compile?  Have you read the install docs?  The syntax
 you describe is not typical at all, and is probably not right.  What
 makes you think that gmake should be using common.mak?  That looks like
 an included file to me (just based on the name).
 
 Most software from the GNU world require the following incantation:
 /configure
 gmake
 gmake install
 
  -Original Message-
  From: Bill Moran [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
  Sent: Wednesday, August 11, 2004 6:58 PM
  To: Mohammed Shaikh (Satyam Computer Services)
  Cc: [EMAIL PROTECTED]; [EMAIL PROTECTED]
  Subject: Re: make issues on freebsd
  
  Mohammed Shaikh (Satyam Computer Services) [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 wrote:
  
  I tried exactly what you said.
  Make install clean
  
  But it tried to search for make-3.80.tar.bz2 and tried fetching over
the
  net and did not find it. (I think because of our firewall). Now I have
  ftp'd the file in the /usr/ports/distfiles/ the above file and tried
  running it and found that it has dependencies on gettext.
  I copied gettext* there and tried installing gettext and found it has
  dependencies on some other stuff.
  
  Lucky for you, you're not the first person to have this problem, thus
  there are many workarounds.  First off, I apologize, I forgot that gmake
  created such a large dependency tree.
  
  First off, if you have a FreeBSD CD, the required files may be on it in
  the /distfiles directory, and you can copy them from there.
  
  Otherwise, it's possible to install gmake from the packages collection.
  The easiest way to do this is to run /stand/sysinstall  You can then
  choose to load the packages from a CD, or FTP (you might want to try
  FTP-passive)  Once in sysinstall, go to Configure, then Packages and
  what you choose after that depends on where you want to try to get the
  packages from.  If they're not on the CD, exit sysinstall and restart
  it, choosing FTP-passive.
  
  The gmake package is in devel section, same as in ports.  If you don't
  see it in the listing, it's because it's not available on the media
  you selected.  Exit sysinstall and restart, choosing a different media.
  I know it's on the FTP sites for sure, but you may have trouble
  accessing them.
  
  How and where I can get everything from, so that I can get this
running.
  I AM NOT JOKING.
  
  I'm just a bit amazed that this is coming from microsoft.com ... that's
 all.
  
  HTH
  
  I don't know stuff about unix world as I am new.
  Appreciate your help friends!!
  
  Thanks a lot
  Mohammad Shaikh
-Original Message-
  From: Bill Moran [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Wednesday,
 August 
  11, 2004 5:40 PM
  To: Mohammed Shaikh (Satyam Computer Services)
  Cc: [EMAIL PROTECTED]; [EMAIL PROTECTED]
  Subject: Re: make issues on freebsd
  
  Mohammed Shaikh (Satyam Computer Services) [EMAIL PROTECTED]
  wrote:
  ^
   Is this a joke?
  
What is the best place to get it? I tried
www.freshports.org/devel/gmake/
 But I got confused as there are too many links and its not clear
 what
exactly to do, to get it installed on my freebsd machine. I am
relatively a newbie so please help
  
  Stop making your life difficult:
  
  cd /usr/ports/devel/gmake  make install clean
  
  then use gmake instead of make.
  
-Original Message-
From: Pat Lashley 

Re: 5.2.1 pccard woes, -current iso?

2004-08-13 Thread Chris
Sam wrote:
Greetings,
I'm trying to get pccard networking up on my laptop (Thinkpad 600E).
Ifconfig -a doesn't show anything despite two cards plugged, and I
think this is why:
# dmesg | grep pccard
pccard0: 16-bit PCCard bus on cbb0
pccard1: 16-bit PCCard bus on cbb1
pccard0: Card has no functions!
pccard1: Card has no functions!
I've seen a list message indicating that -current has fixed this.
Unfortunately no-networking precludes cvsup.
If -current indeed has a fix for this, can someone
either a) tell me where I can find a -current iso, or
b) tell me where I can get the latest pccard sources so I can
patch 5.2.1 -release myself?
Any other ideas warmly welcomed.
Cheers,
Sam
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You can cvsup the src (not a wise move - unless you are a very 
experianced user) OR - wait a bit longer for 5.3-REL

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Re: Running Mozilla FireBird 6.1.6 Under Linux Emulation On FreeBSD 4.10

2004-08-13 Thread Guillermo García-Rojas
First of all, there is NO Mozilla FireBird 6.1.6 as far as I know.

Maybe you want to use: Mozilla Firefox 0.9.3

You can go to ports and do:

#cd /usr/ports/www/firefox
#make all install clean

and then:

#cd /usr/ports/www/flashplugin-firefox
#make all install clean

There you have it: Firefox with Flash Plugin enabled.

Complicated?

On Fri, 13 Aug 2004 04:03:01 +, Rob DeMarco
[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 
 Hello Questions,
 
 I wanted to run Mozilla FireBird 6.1.6 under Linux emulation so
 that I could use the Flash plugin.  I installed linux_base-6.1_6
 from the 4-stable packages directory and downloaded FireBird.  But
 FireBird required a later version of Linux emulation (7.???) that
 I could only find in the 5-stable directory.
 
 Will Linux emulation be updated for FreeBSD 4-stable?  I assume
 I can't install the latest version since it's apparently for 5.0
 and later.
 
 I tried the Gnu version of Flash (`libflash-0.4_10') and the
 appropriate mozilla-flash plugin but it doesn't seem to work.
 
 Thanks,
 
 -Rob
 
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Re: no keyboard after boot

2004-08-13 Thread Alex Melkomukov
Hi Ruben,

Thanks for the pointers.  I have been searching google and the archives,
but it looks like I may have been using keywords that were too general.

I'll try agian using the suggested search keywords.

am

On Fri, 13 Aug 2004, Ruben de Groot wrote:

 On Fri, Aug 13, 2004 at 08:31:31AM +0200, Oliver Fuchs typed:
  On Thu, 12 Aug 2004, Alex Melkomukov wrote:
  
   Hello All,
   
   I have a strange situation where the PS/2 keyboard stops working after
   booting to FreeBSD.  There is no mouse.
   
   It works fine during POST, I can navigate and set BIOS settings, and can
   even hit the 'enter' key to start booting FreeBSD immediately, but once
   the machine starts booting the OS, the lights on the keyboard flash, then
   go away, no more keyboard.
   
   
   running OS is FreeBSD 4.3-RELEASE
   
   
   I don't see anything in the kernel config file that would disable the
   keyboard, and this is what I see in dmesg:
   
   
   atkbdc0: Keyboard controller (i8042) at port 0x60,0x64 on isa0
   atkbd0: AT Keyboard flags 0x1 irq 1 on atkbdc0
   device_probe_and_attach: atkbd0 attach returned 6
   
   
   I have not been succesfull in finding any documentation that covers what
   
   
   device_probe_and_attach: atkbd0 attach returned 6
   
   
   actually means.  Anyone on this list know?  Any other ideas, suggestions
   on how to resolve this?  what to look for?  where to find documentation?
   
   any help would be appreciated.
   
   Alex M.
  
  
  Hi,
  
  I had the same problem that while booting up I was loosing my keyboard.
  As far as I can remember I changed in /boot/device.hints the entry:
  
  from
  hint.atkbd.0.flags=0x1
  to
  hint.atkbd.0.flags=0x0
 
 That won't help him; he's on 4.3-RELEASE where there's no device.hints file.
 To the OP: have you tried google ?
 
 http://www.google.com/search?q=%22atkbd0+attach+returned+6%22
 
 Also, you might want to check the mailing list archives.
 
 http://freebsd.rambler.ru
 
 cheers,
 Ruben
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Re: Getting mod_dav to work

2004-08-13 Thread Dan Finn
On 13 Aug 2004 07:38:30 +0200, Christian Laursen [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 Alan Curtis [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:
 
  I would like to install the mod_dav port to allow me to make webDAV
  connections from my OS X machine to my FreeBSD server.
 
  I am using
 
  FreeBSD 4.10-RELEASE
  apache 1.3.13
  mod_dav-1.0.3_1
 
  I installed everything and then followed the instructions from the
  mod_dav website and put the following lines in my httpd.conf file.
 
  DAVLockDB /var/db/DAVLock
  DAVMinTimeout 600
  DAVDepthInfinity On
 
  Location /usr/home/alan/www/dav 
  DAV on
  /Location
 
 You should probably use Location / or Directory /usr/home/alan/www/dav
 instead.
 
 Location refers to a URI, not a path in the local filesystem.
 
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here's mine:

Location /
  DAV On
  AuthType Basic
  AuthName DAV
  AuthUserFile /usr/local/etc/apache/dav.passwd
  LimitExcept GET HEAD OPTIONS
require user webadmin
  /LimitExcept
/Location
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linux_base compatibility issue?

2004-08-13 Thread Derrick Ryalls
Greetings list,

Recently, Valve released a dedicated server for Counter-Strike Source,
coming in windows and linux varieties.  Since my clan has been playing the
older CS dedicated server on a FreeBSD 4.9 box for a while, I wanted to see
if the new one would work.  I installed it on my test machine, and got this
error when in debug mode:

][ryallsd] ~/cssource # ./srcds_run -game cstrike +map de_dust -console
-debug
Enabling debug mode
Auto-restarting the server on crash
Illegal instruction (core dumped)
cat: hlds.58456.pid: No such file or directory
Deprecated bfd_read called at
/usr/src/gnu/usr.bin/binutils/gdb/../../../../contrib/gdb/gdb/dwarf2read.c
line 3049 in dwarf2_read_section


Dwarf Error: Cannot handle DW_FORM_strp in DWARF reader.
/lib/libm.so.6: No such file or directory.
email debug.log to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Fri Aug 13 08:46:28 PDT 2004: Server restart in 10 seconds
^CFri Aug 13 08:46:29 PDT 2004: Server Quit

I copied the directory tree over to a 5.x box, and the dedicated server was
able to run just fine.  Double checking the linux_base, both machines are
running linux_base-8-8.0_4

So, is there some sort of compatibility issue with linux_base and 4.x?

Thanks for any advice.

Derrick

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How to get best results from FreeBSD-questions

2004-08-13 Thread Greg Lehey
How to get the best results from FreeBSD questions.
===

Last update $Date: 2003/03/09 22:09:31 $

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you got it in answer to a message you sent, it means that the sender
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II:   How to unsubscribe from FreeBSD-questions
III:  Should I ask -questions, -newbies or -hackers?
IV:   How to submit a question to FreeBSD-questions
V:How to answer a question to FreeBSD-questions

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===

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FreeBSD-questions (the newcomers), and also those who answer the
questions (the hackers).

   Note that the term hacker has nothing to do with breaking
   into other people's computers.  The correct term for the latter
   activity is cracker, but the popular press hasn't found out
   yet.  The FreeBSD hackers disapprove strongly of cracking
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In the past, there has been some friction which stems from the
different viewpoints of the two groups.  The newcomers accused the
hackers of being arrogant, stuck-up, and unhelpful, while the hackers
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course, there's an element of truth in both these claims, but for the
most part these viewpoints come from a sense of frustration.

In this document, I'd like to do something to relieve this frustration
and help everybody get better results from FreeBSD-questions.  In the
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we'll look at how to answer one.

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Re: Getting mod_dav to work

2004-08-13 Thread Alan Curtis
On Aug 13, 2004, at 1:38 AM, Christian Laursen wrote:
Alan Curtis [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:
I would like to install the mod_dav port to allow me to make webDAV
connections from my OS X machine to my FreeBSD server.
I am using
FreeBSD 4.10-RELEASE
apache 1.3.13
mod_dav-1.0.3_1
I installed everything and then followed the instructions from the
mod_dav website and put the following lines in my httpd.conf file.
DAVLockDB /var/db/DAVLock
DAVMinTimeout 600
DAVDepthInfinity On
Location /usr/home/alan/www/dav 
DAV on
/Location
You should probably use Location / or Directory 
/usr/home/alan/www/dav
instead.

Location refers to a URI, not a path in the local filesystem.
Thanks. Location / worked.
Alan
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Re: mozilla and courier-imap

2004-08-13 Thread Ed Budd
Richard Coleman wrote:
I'm using the most recent ports for mozilla and courier-imap on an 
up-to-date FreeBSD-stable.  Very often I will not see new messages in a 
folder until I restart mozilla.  I was convinced it was mozilla that was 
broken, but I've seen similar behavior using Thunderbird on my Windows 
box.  Now I'm not so sure.

Anyone else seen this?

How are messages being routed to folders? If you're using some kind of 
server-side filtering make sure the box is checked that says check this 
folder for new messages in the properties of each folder. If the only 
filtering is through the user-configured rules in mozilla/thunderbird 
then everything gets delivered to the INBOX (or whatever is set up as 
imap root folder) and then filtered/routed to other folders AFTER the 
client is opened/started.

IOW this may be normal behaviour, not a broken client.


What is another decent IMAP client in ports?

IMHO thunderbird is one of the best for graphical imap clients - lean 
but featureful at the same time. I like Sylpheed as well.

Hope that helps

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Re: Looking for commercial code gone open source

2004-08-13 Thread Jonathon McKitrick

Good suggestions, all of them.  Thanks, I'll check them out.

jm
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Re: mozilla and courier-imap

2004-08-13 Thread Richard Coleman
Ed Budd wrote:
I'm using the most recent ports for mozilla and courier-imap on an
 up-to-date FreeBSD-stable.  Very often I will not see new messages
in a folder until I restart mozilla.  I was convinced it was
mozilla that was broken, but I've seen similar behavior using
Thunderbird on my Windows box.  Now I'm not so sure.
How are messages being routed to folders? If you're using some kind
of server-side filtering make sure the box is checked that says
check this folder for new messages in the properties of each
folder. If the only filtering is through the user-configured rules in
mozilla/thunderbird then everything gets delivered to the INBOX (or
whatever is set up as imap root folder) and then filtered/routed to
other folders AFTER the client is opened/started.
IOW this may be normal behaviour, not a broken client.
All the filtering is on the client side, so that is not the problem. 
The odd thing is that the client shows that there are new messages in 
the folder.  But when you click on the folder, none of the new messages 
are in the listing.  It looks like a caching problem, but I'm not sure 
if it is the client or server that is having the problem.

But thanks for the response.
Richard Coleman
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Re: mozilla and courier-imap

2004-08-13 Thread Radek Kozlowski
On Fri, Aug 13, 2004 at 12:50:22PM -0400, Richard Coleman wrote:
 I'm using the most recent ports for mozilla and courier-imap on an 
 up-to-date FreeBSD-stable.  Very often I will not see new messages in a 
 folder until I restart mozilla.  I was convinced it was mozilla that was 
 broken, but I've seen similar behavior using Thunderbird on my Windows 
 box.  Now I'm not so sure.
 
 Anyone else seen this?
 
 What is another decent IMAP client in ports?

I had the same problem with Thunderbird (both on FreeBSD and Windows)
and I blamed Mozilla. But then I was told that Courier-IMAP is not very
standards-compliant IMAP implementation and tried Dovecot (mail/dovecot)
instead. It turned out that Courier was the one to blame. With Dovecot
Thunderbird was showing mail like it should. FWIW, I don't have any
problems with it in mutt+imap either.

-Radek
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network card setup?

2004-08-13 Thread Laszlo Antal
Hi,
I forgot to setup my network card during installation on my laptop.
How can I do that on a running system??
I am really happy after about two weeks of trouble finally I have a
running system on my Toshiba Satelite laptop.
Thank you sooo much for all the help I got from you guys.
I even have a running KDE desktop!!! I know this for many of you does
not sounds very much but for me today is THE BEST DAY in my life.
Thank you again for all the help!!
Laszlo
--lantal
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Re: mozilla and courier-imap

2004-08-13 Thread Matthew Seaman
On Fri, Aug 13, 2004 at 01:34:35PM -0400, Richard Coleman wrote:
 Ed Budd wrote:
 I'm using the most recent ports for mozilla and courier-imap on an
  up-to-date FreeBSD-stable.  Very often I will not see new messages
 in a folder until I restart mozilla.  I was convinced it was
 mozilla that was broken, but I've seen similar behavior using
 Thunderbird on my Windows box.  Now I'm not so sure.
 
 How are messages being routed to folders? If you're using some kind
 of server-side filtering make sure the box is checked that says
 check this folder for new messages in the properties of each
 folder. If the only filtering is through the user-configured rules in
 mozilla/thunderbird then everything gets delivered to the INBOX (or
 whatever is set up as imap root folder) and then filtered/routed to
 other folders AFTER the client is opened/started.
 
 IOW this may be normal behaviour, not a broken client.
 
 All the filtering is on the client side, so that is not the problem. 
 The odd thing is that the client shows that there are new messages in 
 the folder.  But when you click on the folder, none of the new messages 
 are in the listing.  It looks like a caching problem, but I'm not sure 
 if it is the client or server that is having the problem.
 
 But thanks for the response.

Hmmm... You might want to give dovecot a try on the server side.  It's
really rather good.  As for IMAP clients: if you've got a spare PHP
enabled webserver anywhere, squirrelmail is pretty simple to set up.

IMAP is pretty tricky that way: all of the different clients and
servers implement only approximately the same protocol and getting
everything to agree on a compatible set of quirks can be a bore.

Cheers,

Matthew

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Re: network card setup?

2004-08-13 Thread Will
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE-
Hash: SHA1
Laszlo Antal wrote:
| Hi,
| I forgot to setup my network card during installation on my laptop.
| How can I do that on a running system??
| I am really happy after about two weeks of trouble finally I have a
| running system on my Toshiba Satelite laptop.
| Thank you sooo much for all the help I got from you guys.
| I even have a running KDE desktop!!! I know this for many of you does
| not sounds very much but for me today is THE BEST DAY in my life.
~From a root shell type /stand/sysinstall goto configure and than
networking and congrats on your FreeBSD isntall :
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Re: network card setup?

2004-08-13 Thread Marc Fonvieille
On Fri, Aug 13, 2004 at 11:13:02AM -0700, Laszlo Antal wrote:
 Hi,
 I forgot to setup my network card during installation on my laptop.
 How can I do that on a running system??
[...]

http://www.freebsd.org/doc/en_US.ISO8859-1/books/handbook/config-network-setup.html

Marc
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Re: Problems connecting a digital camera

2004-08-13 Thread Norbert Koch
* Mike dot Jeays at rogers dot com:

Hello Mike,

Thanks for your answer.

| If you are connecting the camera directly, you may need to use gphoto2,
| provided of course it has an implementation for your camera.

Unfortunately, It can't.
 
| I have found a much better solution is to buy a card-reader, and mount
| it as an msdos file system.  This works every time for me.

Well, that'll be it then.

Thanks again,
norbert.
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Re: network card setup?

2004-08-13 Thread Andrew L. Gould
On Friday 13 August 2004 01:13 pm, Laszlo Antal wrote:
 Hi,
 I forgot to setup my network card during installation on my laptop.
 How can I do that on a running system??
 I am really happy after about two weeks of trouble finally I have a
 running system on my Toshiba Satelite laptop.
 Thank you sooo much for all the help I got from you guys.
 I even have a running KDE desktop!!! I know this for many of you does
 not sounds very much but for me today is THE BEST DAY in my life.

 Thank you again for all the help!!

 Laszlo

 --lantal

As root, run sysinstall.  Instead of starting the installation (not a 
good idea), select Index and look for the module for configuring 
network interfaces.

Happy Friday the 13th!

Andrew Gould
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Wireless network card speed?

2004-08-13 Thread Laszlo Antal
Hi,
Thank you sooo much for helping me out with my network card setup.
Now I know it was a dumm questione.(/stand/sysinstall.. OFCOURSE).
Anyway, I did something unbelievable!! I setup my built in wireless
card!!! Sorry for all this info about my laptop.
My only little problem is freebsd operate my card only 5Mps.
The card can go upto 11Mps. Where can I change this settings?
Thank you for all the help, this forum is the best.
Laszlo
--lantal
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Re: mozilla and courier-imap

2004-08-13 Thread Bill Campbell
On Fri, Aug 13, 2004, Radek Kozlowski wrote:
On Fri, Aug 13, 2004 at 12:50:22PM -0400, Richard Coleman wrote:
 I'm using the most recent ports for mozilla and courier-imap on an 
 up-to-date FreeBSD-stable.  Very often I will not see new messages in a 
 folder until I restart mozilla.  I was convinced it was mozilla that was 
 broken, but I've seen similar behavior using Thunderbird on my Windows 
 box.  Now I'm not so sure.
 
 Anyone else seen this?
 
 What is another decent IMAP client in ports?

I had the same problem with Thunderbird (both on FreeBSD and Windows)
and I blamed Mozilla. But then I was told that Courier-IMAP is not very
standards-compliant IMAP implementation and tried Dovecot (mail/dovecot)
instead. It turned out that Courier was the one to blame. With Dovecot
Thunderbird was showing mail like it should. FWIW, I don't have any
problems with it in mutt+imap either.

If you configure courier-imap there's an option to work around
these issues.

./configure --enable-workarounds-for-imap-client-bugs ...

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Re: IBM x306 with Serial ATA Drives

2004-08-13 Thread eric
On Fri, 2004-08-13 at 07:17:34 -0500, David Kelly proclaimed...

 Why didn't you say so in the first place? Clearly whatever SATA RAID 
 controller you are using is not recognized. It might work if the RAID 
 is not enabled.

Common sense says to try all possible combinations before posting :)

 Then once FreeBSD is up you can implement your RAID in software with 
 vinum.

I've still not been able to get anthing to work; I tried it with the
RAID controller disabled, using PATA only, etc.. No go.
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Re: Wireless network card speed?

2004-08-13 Thread Henrik W Lund
Laszlo Antal wrote:
Hi,
Thank you sooo much for helping me out with my network card setup.
Now I know it was a dumm questione.(/stand/sysinstall.. OFCOURSE).
Anyway, I did something unbelievable!! I setup my built in wireless
card!!! Sorry for all this info about my laptop.
My only little problem is freebsd operate my card only 5Mps.
The card can go upto 11Mps. Where can I change this settings?
Thank you for all the help, this forum is the best.
Laszlo 
Greetings!
You should check out the command wicontrol(8) if your WiFi card uses the 
wi(4) or ath(4) driver (I'm sure a similar tool exists for other 
wireless NIC drivers as well). In fact, here you go:

http://www.freebsd.org/cgi/man.cgi
Just type `wicontrol' into the box and hit Submit.
Mind you, though, that the fact that the card is operating at 5Mbps 
could be due to the conditions where the laptop is located. The poorer 
the signal, the lower the speed (something Windows elegantly neglects to 
tell you, you only know if the connection is Excellent, Good, Low, Very 
Low or No Signal).

Hope this helps, and congrats on a sparkling new, improved (hell, I'd 
say sexy ;-) computer system!

-Henrik W Lund
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OT: Dead hard drive

2004-08-13 Thread Henrik W Lund
Greetings list!
Sorry for the OT post, but this is about the only place I know where 
people may have an answer to my problem. See, I have a hard drive that 
refuses to be detected by the BIOS. It was working fine and then one 
day: power down - power up - *poof* the harddrive is gone from the BIOS 
POST.

I've tried exchanging IDE cables, putting it on a different controller, 
even a different PC, but it will not be detected. I can hear it spin up 
all right, so I know it's not its power unit. The disk had shown no 
signs of being about to bail (even though it is a couple of years old). 
There's nothing vital stored on it, although I would like to salvage 
what I can.

Has anyone got any clue as to what may have happened, and how one can go 
about accessing the drive?

Thanks in advance!
-Henrik W Lund
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Re: Webinterface for sasldb

2004-08-13 Thread Paul Schmehl
--On Friday, August 13, 2004 12:58:59 PM +0200 Alex Huth 
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Hi guys!
I'm looking for a webinterface for users to change their password in
Courier/Cyrus-IMAP (over sasl).
Background: I have to implement a IMAP-Solution for ~60 Users. They must
be  able to change their passwords over www. They are no UNIX-Accounts
for them  on the mailserver.
You need squirrelmail.  Squirrelmail has a plugin module that allows 
virtual account users to change the pw in the sasldb2 db.

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Re: Looking for commercial code gone open source

2004-08-13 Thread Paul Mather
On Fri, 13 Aug 2004 13:10:22 +0100, Jonathon McKitrick
[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

 Does anyone know where there are any web-accessible examples of large or
 medium sized commercial software products that have been open sourced?
 
 I'd like to see some examples of code that were not written from the
 beginning with the intention of being open source.

OCLC's SiteSearch was commercial but has now been turned over to the
open source community.  It is at http://opensitesearch.sourceforge.net
(SiteSearch is a Z39.50-enabled digital library/OPAC application.)

It also seems like Firebird (/usr/ports/databases/firebird) started life
as the commercial database InterBase.

Cheers,

Paul.
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Re: Monitor Disk Usage (Unusual Load Avgs)

2004-08-13 Thread token
Steve,

  There's the obligatory 'ps -ax' to see what's running. You can also
run 'top' to get a constantly updated display of processes.   Some
other stuff you may want to look around with is 'systat' .  Just
running the command doesn't show a whole lot but with various options
and such you can pull some useful info, check the man page.  Something
else is 'lsof' which lists open files and such, can help you get an
idea of what's open and running.
You can also run 'man -k stat' and find lots of other goodies.  

To find out what DMA mode is running, check your dmesg.   
'dmesg | grep DMA'

While I can't provide a specific answer to your questions I've pointed
out some things that may help you find what you're looking for.   Let
us know what you find.

--chip

On Fri, 13 Aug 2004 23:00:19 +1000, Steven Adams [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
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 Server specs
 
 Dual p4 xeon 2.4 (4virtual cpus)
 1gig ecc ram
 5x 36gig 10k rpm scsi on a ami megaraid
 
 I only host a few web sites on this server which at the most peak hour of
 times there is only about 6-7%cpu usage. For some reason my load avg's will
 jump from 0.05 to 0.98 even to 1.50 when the cpu is only using 3%.
 
 I am thinking something is using the hard drive as I have load avg peaks of
 6.0-7.0.
 
 I want to find out what is causing this as im curious to why they get so
 high.
 
 Does anyone know how to find out what running processes are using the
 harddrive or something like that??
 
 Also how do I check if DMA mode is enabled, I know there is a hdparm in
 linux but I cant find anything like that for freebsd..
 
 Thanks for you help
 Steve
 
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alt and meta questions. (yes, again)

2004-08-13 Thread Johan Pettersson
In the console alt and alt gr acts exactly the same. Shouldn't there be
some difference between ALT and ALT GR?

I hate to change window in irssi with ESC-number. So I searched the
mailinglist for some info on how to fix this. I found some mails and how
to change it. Changed lalt in my keymapfile to meta. Now alt works
properly in irssi. Almost. Alt + right or left cursorkey doesnt work.
Another thing is that I no longer can switch tty with alt + Fx. Why isnt
that binded to M-Fx instead of A-Fx so that things could work properly?
I don't want to change tty with ALT GR.
How is things intended to work?
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Do I need to setup an IP Alias

2004-08-13 Thread Abid Saigol
Hi,

I am setting up a FBSD 5.2.1 box for use as an HTTP/SMTP server in a small office.

We have a ADSL internet connection served through a Linksys router setup as the 
primary gateway on IP 192.168.1.1.  Our ISP has allocated a non-filtered fixed IP 
address to us.  I have set-up the FreeBSD box with a fixed IP of 192.168.1.50 subnet 
255.255.255.0, and configured the router to place the server in the DMZ, i.e. direct 
all incoming traffic to it.

My question is should I setup the FBSD machine to recognize the fixed internet IP 
address allocated to us by the ISP as an Alias on the interface card?  Everything 
seems to work fine even I don't do this.

Thanks for any advice.

Abid
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Re: Freebsd 4.10 release(do you know any browser with flash support???)

2004-08-13 Thread Lee Harr
  I'm using quanta to develop html applications with
embedded .swf in it. What I want to do is to see its
preview in a browser while I'm doing the programming
in quanta. The problem is.. I don't know if there's
any browser that supports it.

Any browser? In freebsd 4.10???

I use the linux netscape port for flash:
# pkg_info | grep netscape
netscape7-7.1   Linux Netscape suite
/usr/ports/www/netscape7
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Re: OT: Dead hard drive

2004-08-13 Thread stheg olloydson
it was said:

It was working fine and then one day: power down -
power up - *poof* the harddrive is gone from the BIOS
POST.

I've tried exchanging IDE cables, putting it on a
different controller, even a different PC, but it
will not be detected. I can hear it spin up all
right, so I know it's not its power unit. The disk
had shown no signs of being about to bail (even
though it is a couple of years old). There's nothing
vital stored on it, although I would like to salvage 
what I can.

Has anyone got any clue as to what may have happened,
and how one can go about accessing the drive?

Thanks in advance!
-Henrik W Lund

Hello,

This is a classic symptom of an IDE drive's onboard
controller going bad. You have two solutions. The
first is to change out the controller with one from an
identical drive and then run a surface scan using
either the manufacturer's diagnostic tool or another
tool capable of remapping the drive's bad sectors.
This is because the new controller will have the other
drive's map. Don't forget to redo the map on the other
drive when you replace the controller. I did this two
weeks ago for a client.
The second solution involves a cleanroom and lots of
money.

HTH,

Stheg

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Best way to keep large ports uptodate

2004-08-13 Thread Rob Hancock
Hello everyone,

I'm a recent convert from debian based systems.  I must say that I am
very happy with freebsd so far.

Currently I've been using portupgrade to keep all my ports current, and
it works great.  With very large ports such as KDE/base/libs/etc it takes
several hours to compile on my little 600MHz laptop.  Is there a way to
keep the previously compiled objects around so when I upgrade the
next time only the changes have to be recompiled?  Or am I better off
just waiting until major updates and doing a clean compile then?

Also, top isn't showing any percentages as far as user, cpu, nice etc.
I remember reading that it is usually caused by world/kernel not being
compiled and installed together.  However I did just that...rebuilt world,
kernel and installed per the handbook.  This is with 4.10p2.  Only thing
I can think of is that I have CPUTYPE as I686 in my custom kernel and
as p3 in /etc/make.conf.  Should I try changing /etc/make.conf to I686?
The computer is a 600MHz p3.

-Rob
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Re: Do I need to setup an IP Alias

2004-08-13 Thread stheg olloydson
We have a ADSL internet connection served through a
Linksys router setup as the primary gateway on IP
92.168.1.1. Our ISP has allocated a non-filtered
fixed IP address to us. I have set-up the FreeBSD box

with a fixed IP of 192.168.1.50 subnet 255.255.255.0,
and configured the router to place the server in the
DMZ, i.e. direct all incoming traffic to it.
My question is should I setup the FBSD machine to
recognize the fixed internet IP address allocated to
us by the ISP as an Alias on the interface card?
Everything seems to work fine even I don't do this.

Hello,

Did they allocate more than one? I mean, one to be the
oif of the Linksys and another one that you can assign
as an alias on the FBSD box? If so, you _can_. But
that should only be neccesary if you need to access
the box from the internal network via the external
network. On the other hand, you don't even need to put
the server in the DMZ. The Linksys should let you do
port forwarding for just the port(s) you actually need
exposed. The more layers between your server and the
Internet, the better.


HTH,

Stheg



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Re: Looking for commercial code gone open source

2004-08-13 Thread Greg 'groggy' Lehey
On Friday, 13 August 2004 at 13:10:22 +0100, Jonathon McKitrick wrote:

 Does anyone know where there are any web-accessible examples of large or
 medium sized commercial software products that have been open sourced?

 I'd like to see some examples of code that were not written from the
 beginning with the intention of being open source.

Check out http://www3.ca.com/Press/pressrelease.asp?CID=61597 .  It
seems that the commercial version of Ingres has gone open source.
There's also IBM's JFS and SGI's XFS, of course.

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Bwbar for Freebsd

2004-08-13 Thread Steven Adams
Hi,

Does anyone know where I can get a bwbar tool for freebsd..

Ive looked high and low on google.com etc and cant really find anything..


Example of what bwbar does
http://66.90.65.210/bandwidth/

I don't want to use mrtg or rrdtool because they don't show u real time
stats like bwbar does.

thanks
Steve


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switching NAT: ipf to pf not working

2004-08-13 Thread Jorge Mario G.
Hello there

I'm trying to switch the nat from ipf to pf
our lan is pretty simple

INTERNET  (pf)--- 192.168.0.0/24 LAN1
  |
  |
  |--- 192.168.1.0/24 Wireless LAN
our ipf configuration was pretty much like this
map xl0 192.168.0.0/24 - 0/32
map xl0 192.168.1.0/24 - 0/32


Now our pf configuration looks like this:
nat on xl0 from 192.168.0.0/24 to any - (xl0)
nat on xl0 from 192.168.1.0/24 to any - (xl0)


192.168.1.254 is our Wireless access point


I dont get it what are we doing wrong?



Jorge





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Re: Do I need to setup an IP Alias

2004-08-13 Thread Abid Saigol

- Original Message - 
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Sent: Friday, August 13, 2004 8:32 PM
Subject: [spam] Re: Do I need to setup an IP Alias


 Hello,

 Did they allocate more than one? I mean, one to be the
 oif of the Linksys and another one that you can assign
 as an alias on the FBSD box? If so, you _can_. But
 that should only be neccesary if you need to access
 the box from the internal network via the external
 network. On the other hand, you don't even need to put
 the server in the DMZ. The Linksys should let you do
 port forwarding for just the port(s) you actually need
 exposed. The more layers between your server and the
 Internet, the better.


 HTH,

 Stheg

Thanks for the input.

I have only one fixed IP that is being handled by the Linksys router.  I was
only concerned that anyone using IP addressing on the internet should be
able to access the HTTP and SMTP services.  And once I have a clearer
picture of my traffic, I intend to switch over to port forwarding.

Abid

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Laptop overheating problem.

2004-08-13 Thread Laszlo Antal
Hi,
So my laptop was working just fine but after a whole day of usage
everything slowed down, my physical memory was 89% full, and the
openoffice did not want to start at all.As soon as it happend I knew
the problem is I did not hear the cooling fan.
After shutdown about a hour I turned back on and everything was
working again very fast.I hope I didn't brake anything!
Here are the spec about the laptop::
Toshiba Satellit A15-S157, 2.2ghz proc, 512mb ram.
I installed FreeBSD 4.10 on it, adn I use KDE desktop.
Is there any built in or third party program I can install to turn on
the cooling fan when is necessary??
Or do I need to make some change in my installation??
Thank you soo much for all the answers.
Laszlo
--lantal
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updating issues

2004-08-13 Thread Rail mail
I have compiled kernel and now want to find easiest, safest way to
upgrade a production machine.

I'm trying to make a decision on to either A just always do a cvsup
with RELENG_5_X and make world or B try to pull something together
with freebsd-update.

of course freebsd-update 1.4 gets upset since files were modified, due
to src update and compile.

thanks
R.
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Re: Looking for commercial code gone open source

2004-08-13 Thread Jeremy Faulkner
Jonathon McKitrick wrote:
Does anyone know where there are any web-accessible examples of large or
medium sized commercial software products that have been open sourced?
I'd like to see some examples of code that were not written from the
beginning with the intention of being open source.
jm
Blender (graphics/blender, www.blender3d.org) was originally a 
commercial project whose parent company shutdown. Blender was purchased 
by the community and GPL'd.

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Re: updating issues

2004-08-13 Thread Chris
Rail mail wrote:
I have compiled kernel and now want to find easiest, safest way to
upgrade a production machine.
I'm trying to make a decision on to either A just always do a cvsup
with RELENG_5_X and make world or B try to pull something together
with freebsd-update.
of course freebsd-update 1.4 gets upset since files were modified, due
to src update and compile.
I could be wrong but I thought the whole idea of FreeBSDUpdate is NOT to 
mess with the source. I always thought that the before mentioned 
updeated only the binaries.

That being said, and if you did tamper with the source - then cvsup (to 
me) is the proper course of action.

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Re: Looking for commercial code gone open source

2004-08-13 Thread Jeremy Faulkner
Jeremy Faulkner wrote:
Jonathon McKitrick wrote:
Does anyone know where there are any web-accessible examples of large or
medium sized commercial software products that have been open sourced?
I'd like to see some examples of code that were not written from the
beginning with the intention of being open source.
jm

Blender (graphics/blender, www.blender3d.org) was originally a 
commercial project whose parent company shutdown. Blender was purchased 
by the community and GPL'd.

The development community for Blender is at www.blender.org, 
blender3d.org is the user community.

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Updating Emacs without installing X?

2004-08-13 Thread Your Name
i have a server that's running FreeBSD 4.7 and the
security patches are up to date but most software
hasn't been upgraded in a long time. im trying to do
some basic maintenance and there are some problems.

First i want to upgrade Emacs from an older version,
but when i try to do this from ports it starts trying
to 
install a whole bunch of X stuff. This is just a
server box, and i dont want to have _any_ X running on
it. Is
there a way i can get Emacs current? i didn't
originally set this machine up, but Emacs is installed
from Ports
and theres no X on the machine, so i dont know how it
was
originally done.

Thanks!

Jen



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Re: updating issues

2004-08-13 Thread Rail mail
well I was thinking either I do binary updates or recompile updates.
My first question started off with can I get security fixes with out
recompiling?.

I knew about upgrade in sysinstall, but the word was that gets the
release specified, not necessarily security fixes.

So then I thought you have to recompile to get updates. But
freebsd-update was then introduced to me. But It complained since we
had to recompile the src for the release (5.1) to get certain features
in the kernel.

So I am still stuck with the question can I get security fixes with
out recompiling?.

R.

On Fri, 13 Aug 2004 22:27:31 -0500, Chris [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 
 
 Rail mail wrote:
  I have compiled kernel and now want to find easiest, safest way to
  upgrade a production machine.
 
  I'm trying to make a decision on to either A just always do a cvsup
  with RELENG_5_X and make world or B try to pull something together
  with freebsd-update.
 
  of course freebsd-update 1.4 gets upset since files were modified, due
  to src update and compile.
 
 I could be wrong but I thought the whole idea of FreeBSDUpdate is NOT to
 mess with the source. I always thought that the before mentioned
 updeated only the binaries.
 
 That being said, and if you did tamper with the source - then cvsup (to
 me) is the proper course of action.
 
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 Best regards,
 Chris
 
 Real programmers can do octal, hexadecimal and
 binary math in their heads.

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Re: Problems connecting a digital camera

2004-08-13 Thread Vulpes Velox
On Fri, 13 Aug 2004 21:05:47 +0200
Norbert Koch [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

 * Mike dot Jeays at rogers dot com:
 
 Hello Mike,
 
 Thanks for your answer.
 
 | If you are connecting the camera directly, you may need to use
 gphoto2,| provided of course it has an implementation for your
 camera.
 
 Unfortunately, It can't.
  
 | I have found a much better solution is to buy a card-reader, and
 mount| it as an msdos file system.  This works every time for me.
 
 Well, that'll be it then.

I find this second one works nicely. Turn on user mount and install
wmmount and it works nicely :)
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Re: Updating Emacs without installing X?

2004-08-13 Thread Kevin D. Kinsey, DaleCo, S.P.
Your Name wrote:
i have a server that's running FreeBSD 4.7 and the
security patches are up to date but most software
hasn't been upgraded in a long time. im trying to do
some basic maintenance and there are some problems.
First i want to upgrade Emacs from an older version,
but when i try to do this from ports it starts trying
to 
install a whole bunch of X stuff. This is just a
server box, and i dont want to have _any_ X running on
it. Is
there a way i can get Emacs current? i didn't
originally set this machine up, but Emacs is installed
from Ports
and theres no X on the machine, so i dont know how it
was
originally done.

Thanks!
Jen
 

Emacs requires XFree libraries, and I think imake,
in order to build and run.  You're not going to be
running X just because some libraries are installed,
although you may want to keep an eye on the project's
site to hear if security holes are found, just as you
should/do with any other 3rd party software you use.
Now, a good question might be Why?  I don't have
any idea, myself.  But that's just the way EMACS is:
_E_ight _M_egs _A_nd _C_onstantly _S_wapping
:-D
Kevin Kinsey
DaleCo, S.P.
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Re: gbde blackening feature - how are the keys destroyed?

2004-08-13 Thread David Kreil

Hello,

I was wondering whether someone knowledgable about gbde internals could tell 
me how the keys are being destroyed on request under the blackening feature. 
Ideally, I'd like them to be overwritten with random data at least 20 times 
independently, but I suspect it may well be done in a different way. I'd be 
grateful for learning how the blackening works (and why!).

With many thanks for your help in advance,

David Kreil.




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Updating Firefox

2004-08-13 Thread Andreas Davour

I have just tried a portupgrade and suffer from an uncommon amount of
problems building many programs.

One that has been built but isn't doing like it it is the Firefox 0.9
port.

Why is it that all my bookmarks are gone? How do I make it recognize all
the extensions I hav installed, and where is my history?

I can 'import' bookmarks, but all the other problems remain, even after
renaming my old .phoenix to .firefox to keep up with the name changes.

Anyone?

/Andreas

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Re: Updating Emacs without installing X?

2004-08-13 Thread Chuck Swiger
Kevin D. Kinsey, DaleCo, S.P. wrote:
Your Name wrote:
This is just a server box, and i dont want to have _any_ X running on it.
Is there a way i can get Emacs current? i didn't originally set this
machine up, but Emacs is installed from Ports and theres no X on the
machine, so i dont know how it was originally done.
Emacs requires XFree libraries, and I think imake,
in order to build and run.
Pshaw!  :-)  Emacs can be built for text-mode using normal make just fine, and 
the Emacs port knows how:

cd /usr/ports/editors/emacs  env WITHOUT_X11=1 make install
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Re: Best way to keep large ports uptodate

2004-08-13 Thread Tilman Linneweh
* Rob Hancock [Sa, 14 Aug 2004 at 02:29 GMT]:
 Currently I've been using portupgrade to keep all my ports current, and
 it works great.  With very large ports such as KDE/base/libs/etc it takes
 several hours to compile on my little 600MHz laptop.  Is there a way to
 keep the previously compiled objects around so when I upgrade the
 next time only the changes have to be recompiled?  Or am I better off
 just waiting until major updates and doing a clean compile then?

Read /usr/local/etc/pkgtools.conf esp. HOLD_PKGS and USE_PKGS.

regards
tilman
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can i safely remove /boot/kernel.old after successful kernel compilation

2004-08-13 Thread ashadul hoque
Hi everybody,

Following the advice on this list I re-compiled my kernel and got 
significant improvement in boot speed.

No my question is can the old kernel (/boot/kernel.old/) be safely 
deleted?

Thanks in advance.

regards
Ashadul
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Re: mod_perl HELP!

2004-08-13 Thread jason
Bart Silverstrim wrote:
On Aug 13, 2004, at 12:02 AM, jason wrote:
Bart Silverstrim wrote:
Can someone help?  When I try going into /usr/ports/www/mod_perl and 
make install, I get:
===  Installing for mod_perl-1.29
===   mod_perl-1.29 depends on file: /usr/local/sbin/apxs - found
===   mod_perl-1.29 depends on file: 
/usr/local/lib/perl5/site_perl/5.8.4/LWP.pm - found
===   mod_perl-1.29 depends on file: /usr/local/bin/perl5.8.4 - found
===   mod_perl-1.29 depends on file: /usr/local/bin/perl5.8.4 - found
===   Generating temporary packing list
===  Checking if www/mod_perl already installed
(cd ./apaci  
PERL5LIB=/usr/ports/www/mod_perl/work/mod_perl-1.29/lib: make)
make: don't know how to make 
/usr/local/lib/perl5/5.8.4/mach/Config.pm. Stop
*** Error code 2

I think the problem is that PERL is now at 5.8.5; when trying to 
portupgrade apache, I had an error to the effect that it couldn't 
find a perl 5.8.4 binary, and when I symlinked perl.5.8.4 to 
perl.5.8.5, it installed from ports.  But mod_perl refuses.  Is his 
a ports problem??

Can someone confirm this error?
System:
4.9-RELEASE-p9 FreeBSD 4.9-RELEASE-p9
-Bart
Don't link stuff like perl unless you know what you are doing.  Read 
the usr/ports/UPDATING for info on perl. To make things easy on you 
what version of perl is listed in you /etc/make.conf, is it 5.8.4?  
You then want to install the new port of perl and then type $use.perl 
port in the work dir(I think) to tell bsd you have 5.8.5.  Check 
make.conf to see if it is updated, it wasn't for me so I changed it 
by hand.  $perl -v should id itself as the right version.  You must 
also rebuild every port that depends on perl.  There is a 3 line 
portupgrade command in UPDATING that I could not get to work so I 
upgraded them all.  That takes a while with over 200 ports.

I never *know* what I'm doing.  The seat of my pants have wings :-)
I did just recently update to perl 5.8.5 (via portupgrade).  I have 
since done a make deinstall, make clean, and make reinstall on it as 
well.  It should be in the updates.

So you have 5.8.5, or you had it when you tried to install mod_perl?  
Yet the output shows 5.8.4.  You just caused me to learn something.  The 
$use.perl port does work.

Here is my make.conf.  You see at the top I changed the perl version by 
hand to get it to work.  If you look down you will seen everytime I did 
a $use.perl port a new perl config was added, but none deleted.  So it 
seems bsd goes with whats at top!  Delete the first 9 lines in yours and 
the new perl version info should be at the bottom of yours too.  You 
only need to keep one perl config.  How about do a make clean and then 
make depend and send it to me with a copy of your make.conf.

# -- use.perl generated deltas -- #'   ==delete
# Created: Sun Oct 19 22:47:41 2003 and all between 
on yours
# Setting to use base perl from ports:
PERL_VER=5.8.5
PERL_VERSION=5.8.5
PERL_ARCH=mach
NOPERL=yo   

NO_PERL=yo   

NO_PERL_WRAPPER=yo   ==delete
CPUTYPE=athlon-xp
CFLAGS=-O -pipe -fschedule-insns2 -fomit-frame-pointer 
#-frename-registers #-fforce-addr -fforce-mem#-funroll-loops
CXXFLAGS+=-fschedule-insns2 #-fmemoize-lookups -fsave-memoized
COPTFLAGES=-O -pipe -funroll-loops -fschedule-insns2
NO_I4B=true
NO_KERBEROS=true
NO_TCSH=true
#NOCRYPT=true
NOGAMES=true
#NOMANCOMPRESS=true
NO_SHAREDOCs=true
NO_SENDMAIL=true
SUP_UPDATE=yes
SUP=/usr/local/bin/cvsup
SUPHOST=cvsup2.freebsd.org
SUPFILE=/etc/cvs/standard
PORTSSUPFILE=/etc/cvs/ports
DOCSUPFILE=/etc/cvs/docs
DOC_LANG=en_US.ISO8859-1
X_WINDOW_SYSTEM=xorg
# -- use.perl generated deltas -- # ==these extras 
too if you have them
# Created: Fri Aug  6 00:23:24 2004
# Setting to use base perl from ports:
PERL_VER=5.6.1
PERL_VERSION=5.6.1
PERL_ARCH=mach
NOPERL=yo
NO_PERL=yo
NO_PERL_WRAPPER=yo==extra

# -- use.perl generated deltas -- #  ==keep the last 
one, it should be right!
# Created: Fri Aug  6 00:32:52 2004
# Setting to use base perl from ports:
PERL_VER=5.8.5
PERL_VERSION=5.8.5
PERL_ARCH=mach
NOPERL=yo
NO_PERL=yo
NO_PERL_WRAPPER=yo   ==keep

I think there's a make or conf file calling for that condition to be 
checked as a dependency.  It seems to work properly with that link, 
once it got by the check stage of the make.  I didn't like that 
workaround either, but making all those ports via 
deinstall/clean/install still wasn't fixing the error.  :-/

So the link caused the depend stage to finish ok, but it should have 
failled if the right version was not there.  The link defeats the 
purpose of having a dependancy check at all.

The second problem is that this server, due to following instructions 
from the software installed on it, had some bsdpan modules installed 
on it