Re: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org
On Thu, Aug 23, 2007 at 12:19:52PM +0700, Truong Minh Hanh - FPT Software wrote: How can I upgrate source code to 7.0-CURRENT with cvsup? Currently I'm using 6.2p5. Are you sure that you want to use a possibly unstable version of FreeBSD? People who use -CURRENT are those who are willing to test and debug the kernel, and live with the possibility of data-loss. -- Jonathan Chen [EMAIL PROTECTED] -- You can get farther with a kind word and a gun than you can with a kind word alone - Al Capone ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: xdm fails! can't find pcidata
On Thu, Aug 23, 2007 at 12:16:10AM +0400, Boris Samorodov wrote: On Wed, 22 Aug 2007 12:11:47 -0700 Gary Kline wrote: I just rebooted my DNS server and now X fails. I'm pretty sure I did everything re the xorg instructions in UPDATING. The error message in /var/lob/Xorg.0.log says exactly:: (II) Loader running on freebsd (II) LoadModule: pcidata (WW) Warning, couldn't open module pcidata (II) UnloadModule: pcidata (EE) Failed to load module pcidata (module does not exist, 0) How can I fix this? I find pcidata deep in the /usr/sys/src.../dev directory. Nothing in my KERNCONF=GENERIC file. Insights, anybody?? I've seen something like this after Xorg-6.9 to Xorg-7.1 update. Seems that I succeeded after deletting my old xorg.conf file, creating a new one and fitting it. Yeah, you're right; creating a new one would have been the most logical thing. But at least I learned that the modules have been moved to /usr/local/lib/xorg/modules. I did a wholesale 1,$s/X11R6/local/gp and that failed because the old path was /usr/X11R6/lib/modules. I'll know if this works in the morning localtime. My brain is fried. cheers, gary WBR -- bsam -- Gary Kline [EMAIL PROTECTED] www.thought.org Public Service Unix ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: ps2ascii. c.
On Wed, Aug 22, 2007 at 01:19:55PM -0700, Gary Kline wrote:
On Wed, Aug 22, 2007 at 11:47:15AM +0400, Yuri Pankov wrote:
On Wed, Aug 22, 2007 at 12:35:47AM -0700, Gary Kline wrote:
Guys,
If this is a re-post, sorry. I thought I mailed this to -questions.
Anyway, where are the pdf and pd and other ghostscript converters?
I thought these utilities were in the default distribution, but I
can't find them. pdfps, pdftoascii, and so forth.
thanks in advance for any help,
gary
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They are in print/ghostscript-{afpl,gnu,gpl}, though ghostscript-gpl is
preferred one.
HTH,
It prob'ly will. Maybe I can select which things to build from
the Makefile. It's been awhle.
gary
Yuri
To everyone,
An update to whomever is interested in these conversion programs.
I tried ps2ascii (or whatever apropos pdf found tht might
convert a pdf file to plain text. It blew up. So I scp'd the
pdf file to my Ubuntu computer and ran pdftotext -layout *pdf.
It worked vvery well. Next, I spent hours googling around until
I foound that pdftotext is part of xpdf. There are several of
these ancillary programs from xpdf. I'm building it now on my
new tao. See how it works.
For now, I'm just making a note of these obscure details in my
~/.Notes files. Now, this stuff will be available inthe
-questions archives. Just FWIW.
this day has gone on for about 97 hours!
gary
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re(4) driver FreeBSD 6.2 problem
i have this on amd64 machine. after booting mbufs are about 500. after a day - 2. everything else works. is it OK? ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: fsck strangeness
Ian Smith wrote: On Wed, 22 Aug 2007, Chris wrote: If its bad to run fsck on a mounted read,write then why does background fsck do it? or you talking about foreground fsck only? Well I was referring to foreground fsck, and I still don't know why running it on a mounted fs is 'bad' when fsck runs in 'NO WRITE' mode anyway when it finds a fs is mounted, hence my query above. Here's my understanding: Mounted fs (rw) isn't in stable state, there may be some writes to it - daemons, buffers flushes, etc. In this condition fsck can report inconsistency. And fsck running in 'NO WRITE' won't help anyway :) Cheers, Karol -- Karol Kwiatkowski karol.kwiat at gmail dot com OpenPGP 0x06E09309 signature.asc Description: OpenPGP digital signature
Re: re(4) driver FreeBSD 6.2 problem
other problems - under high traffic (many different connection, not one) there are problems. looks like random packet loss turning off txcsum, rxcsum fixes the problem. actually under anything, i googled a bit and found this card doesn't work well in other OS too re0: RealTek 8168B/8111B PCIe Gigabit Ethernet port 0xc000-0xc0ff mem 0xf900-0xf9000fff irq 17 at device 0.0 on pci3 what (not too expensive) PCIe gigabit NIC is tested and works fine under freebsd? my board has 2 PCI slots, two used. ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: What is a sane setting for maxdsize when running amd64? it seems many normal suggestions do not apply.
Ganbold [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: We are using several squid machines (6 machines, each have all others as a siblings) for transparent caching/proxying using gre tunnel and wccp2 (with Cisco router). Can varnish work in such situation? Probably not; Varnish is a reverse proxy. DES -- Dag-Erling Smørgrav - [EMAIL PROTECTED] ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: fsck strangeness
On Thu, 23 Aug 2007, Karol Kwiatkowski wrote: Ian Smith wrote: On Wed, 22 Aug 2007, Chris wrote: If its bad to run fsck on a mounted read,write then why does background fsck do it? or you talking about foreground fsck only? Well I was referring to foreground fsck, and I still don't know why running it on a mounted fs is 'bad' when fsck runs in 'NO WRITE' mode anyway when it finds a fs is mounted, hence my query above. Here's my understanding: Mounted fs (rw) isn't in stable state, there may be some writes to it - daemons, buffers flushes, etc. In this condition fsck can report inconsistency. And fsck running in 'NO WRITE' won't help anyway :) a) Absolutely. b) Indeed it usually does, fairly consistently, especially on /var. c) No it won't help (except where it can help locate problems in a real mess like bad blocks), but the assertion in question was, can it hurt? Cheers, Ian ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Reproducible panic of 6.2 on double mount ntfs
Hello! With '/dev/ad0s1 /mnt/ad0s1 ntfs ro,noauto 0 0' in fstab, if I issue 'mount /mnt/ad0s1' twice, I always get a panic with the message: panic: lockmgr: locking against myself If I issue 'mount_ntfs /dev/ad0s1 /mnt/ad0s1' twice, there is no panic. I only get 'mount_ntfs: /dev/ad0s1: Operation not permitted' as expected. For a different (non-ntfs) filesystem, using plain mount twice gives 'Operation not permitted', too. System is: FreeBSD janh.freebsd 6.2-RELEASE-p4 FreeBSD 6.2-RELEASE-p4 #0: Thu Apr 26 17:55:55 UTC 2007 [EMAIL PROTECTED]:/usr/obj/usr/src/sys/SMP i386 Can anyone reproduce this? Just for my curiosity: What is mount doing differently than mount_ntfs? Thanks, Jan Henrik ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: fsck strangeness
Ian Smith wrote: On Thu, 23 Aug 2007, Karol Kwiatkowski wrote: Ian Smith wrote: On Wed, 22 Aug 2007, Chris wrote: If its bad to run fsck on a mounted read,write then why does background fsck do it? or you talking about foreground fsck only? Well I was referring to foreground fsck, and I still don't know why running it on a mounted fs is 'bad' when fsck runs in 'NO WRITE' mode anyway when it finds a fs is mounted, hence my query above. Here's my understanding: Mounted fs (rw) isn't in stable state, there may be some writes to it - daemons, buffers flushes, etc. In this condition fsck can report inconsistency. And fsck running in 'NO WRITE' won't help anyway :) a) Absolutely. b) Indeed it usually does, fairly consistently, especially on /var. c) No it won't help (except where it can help locate problems in a real mess like bad blocks), but the assertion in question was, can it hurt? Ah sorry, I missed that. With 'NO WRITE' one can suppose it shouldn't hurt anything except performance ;) I made a quick scan through the source and it looks like it won't: - in src/sbin/fsck_ffs/setup.c if fs is mounted rw fswritefd is set to -1 - in src/sbin/fsck_ffs/fsutil.c blwrite(), flush() and ckfini() won't write anything if fswritefd0 Unless, of course, I'm missing something. Cheers, Karol -- Karol Kwiatkowski karol.kwiat at gmail dot com OpenPGP 0x06E09309 signature.asc Description: OpenPGP digital signature
webmin / failed to create new PTY
hello, I realize it is not really FreeBSD related question, but I am trying to set up some backup jobs with webmin and each time I run it, I get Failed to create new PTY error message. Any suggestion what could be causing it? Webmin 1.360 on a 6.2-RELEASE-p6. Thank you! Zbigniew Szalbot ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: FreeBSD MBRs
Jerry McAllister wrote: You only need an MBR on disks that will be booted. I don't know as it will actually hurt anything to write an MBR on non-boot, data only disks, but it can garbage up you menu with non-functional choices. What you need is an MBR on every disk which is *passed through* or actually booted from. So if you have disks 1, 2 3, if you want to boot from disk3 you need an MBR on disks 1 2 as well, even if you never boot from them. If you boot from disk 1, then 2 3 do not *need* an MBR. Those other disk with an MBR show up as an F5 and maybe F6, etc ( F5 is the *next* disk. There is no F6, F7 etc. If you boot from disk 3, for example, you'd go through three menus e.g. Disk1: F5 - disk2 Disk2: F5 - disk3 Disk3: F1 - boots FreeBSD If those were your only 3 disks, then F5 on disk3 takes you back to disk1. You can probably change the boot order of those disks in your BIOS to make disk3 be disk1, avoiding the intermediate menus. That's not always possible for other reasons. For example, in the setup above, if disk 1 has Windows on it and that really does work best as disk1. If disk 2 is on the same controller as disk 1 your BIOS might not allow that to be changed independently. I know of no reason why you wouldn't want the MBR on all your disks, even if you don't technically need it. Sorry, no idea if this helps with the original question, which I too had trouble following. --Alex ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: webmin / failed to create new PTY
Hello, On Thu, 23 Aug 2007 11:39:56 +0200, Zbigniew Szalbot [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: hello, I realize it is not really FreeBSD related question, but I am trying to set up some backup jobs with webmin and each time I run it, I get Failed to create new PTY error message. Any suggestion what could be causing it? Webmin 1.360 on a 6.2-RELEASE-p6. Sorry to have bothered. It was a case of wrong file naming scheme. -- Zbigniew Szalbot www.slowo.pl www.lcwords.com ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
ip address location database
I am looking towards setting up something which will let me know what part of the world a specific ip address is from. Anyone know an easy process for this? Even if the database or text file was available somewhere I could probably adapt a search script. ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: ip address location database
Am Donnerstag 23 August 2007 11:42:00 schrieb David Banning: I am looking towards setting up something which will let me know what part of the world a specific ip address is from. Anyone know an easy process for this? Check out: http://www.maxmind.com/ Their free database is slightly less specific (and actual) than the paid database, but sufficient for pretty much all jobs I've had so far. -- Heiko Wundram Product Application Development ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: FreeBSD MBRs
Alex Zbyslaw wrote: Jerry McAllister wrote: You only need an MBR on disks that will be booted. I don't know as it will actually hurt anything to write an MBR on non-boot, data only disks, but it can garbage up you menu with non-functional choices. What you need is an MBR on every disk which is *passed through* or actually booted from. So if you have disks 1, 2 3, if you want to boot from disk3 you need an MBR on disks 1 2 as well, even if you never boot from them. If you boot from disk 1, then 2 3 do not *need* an MBR. Those other disk with an MBR show up as an F5 and maybe F6, etc ( F5 is the *next* disk. There is no F6, F7 etc. If you boot from disk 3, for example, you'd go through three menus e.g. Disk1: F5 - disk2 Disk2: F5 - disk3 Disk3: F1 - boots FreeBSD Thanks Jerry, Lowell and Alex, That clarifies a few points. Sorry the original post wasn't clear, I'll have a go at rexpressing my original questions using the above for context. Firstly, when you hit F5, does it, a) Load the partition table from the next disk and update the displayed list of slices, or b) Execute the MBR from the next disk? I'll assume the latter. Secondly, does boot0 'remember' that you pressed F5, and hence do the same the next time you boot, even after a power cycle? In this case, having done, Disk1: F5 - disk2 Disk2: F5 - disk3 Disk3: F1 - boots FreeBSD the next time, it will appear as, Disk3: F1 - boots FreeBSD The behaviour that I was experiencing was as follows: Disk1: F1 - boots FresBSD reboot Disk1: F5 - disk2 Disk2: Has /boot/mbr on it, and hence attempts to boot the active slice. As there is no active slice on the disk, simply fails with the message 'Missing operating system' Now, subsequent attempts to boot simply display the message 'Missing operating system'. Hence, I concluded that either, a) boot0 was rembering the F5 keystroke, and passing me on to disk 2 automatically, or b) That the BIOS was rememering something and booting straight from disk2 despite the boot order having disk1 first. The only was that I found to rectify this was use a boot from a USB device with boot0 on it: USB: F5 - disk1 Disk1: F1 - boots FreeBSD And now, subsequent reboots work fine: Disk1: F1 - boots FresBSD I hope the above is a little more clear now. Regards, Chris ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: FreeBSD MBRs
Christopher Key wrote: Sorry the original post wasn't clear, I'll have a go at rexpressing my original questions using the above for context. It was a complicated series of events, so it's easy to end up with a confusing description (and the fault might lie with us being too dumb to understand :-)) Firstly, when you hit F5, does it, a) Load the partition table from the next disk and update the displayed list of slices, or b) Execute the MBR from the next disk? I'll assume the latter. b). If there is no MBR on the next disk then F5 will beep (might depend on MBR version) and do nothing. Secondly, does boot0 'remember' that you pressed F5, and hence do the same the next time you boot, even after a power cycle? In this case, having done, Disk1: F5 - disk2 Disk2: F5 - disk3 Disk3: F1 - boots FreeBSD the next time, it will appear as, Disk3: F1 - boots FreeBSD Everything is remembered. However, the sequence will always start with disk1 - whatever the BIOS thinks is the boot disk - and then default to exactly what you pressed the last time *for that disk*. So you would see Disk1: F5 - disk2 Disk2: F5 - disk3 Disk3: F1 - boots FreeBSD exactly as above. (There is an option when writing the MBR to *not* remember - man bsdlabel would tell you. And you can change the default for a particular disk, again with bsdlabel, but there are issues with doing this on mounted disks: IIRC you can set sysctl kern.geom.debugflags=16 before writing MBR and set it back to 0 afterwards, if you are having problems. It's just a magic incantation which I have no deep understanding of :-(). The behaviour that I was experiencing was as follows: Disk1: F1 - boots FresBSD reboot Disk1: F5 - disk2 Disk2: Has /boot/mbr on it, and hence attempts to boot the active slice. As there is no active slice on the disk, simply fails with the message 'Missing operating system' The missing OS message makes sense for a disk with no active slice, but the rest simply doesn't accord with my expectations unless perhaps you somehow wrote an MBR which does not remember. For the record, I have 4 SATA disk in my workstation and regularly boot off disk 3 (because disk 1 has Windows). If I boot windows (F1 on disk1) then the next time I reboot I have to remember to press F5 to get to disk 2 and on to FreeBSD, because it does remember the F1 from the previous boot. DIsk 2 will remember it's F5 and disk 3 it's F1, irrespective of what I do on disk 1. (And yes, if every disk were set to F5, you'd go round in a loop forever, never booting anything :-)) Now, subsequent attempts to boot simply display the message 'Missing operating system'. Hence, I concluded that either, a) boot0 was rembering the F5 keystroke, and passing me on to disk 2 automatically, or b) That the BIOS was rememering something and booting straight from disk2 despite the boot order having disk1 first. The memory for the key you pressed is *per disk* because (IIUC) it is actually stored on the the disk somewhere in the MBR. It's not unheard of for a BIOS to completely change the boot order when the devices attached to the machine are changed. So, if you set your BIOS to boot from a USB stick, then disk X; if you then removed the USB stick I would not be at all surprised if the BIOS reverted to some apparently random boot order where disk X was *not* the first disk. I've had immense trouble with this in th past trying to boot from CD where the BIOS would not reliably spot that the CD was actually attached. If the boot order with a CD was e.g. CD Disk X Disk Y The boot order when the CD was *not* recognised could easily end up as: Disk Y Disk X It might have been controller order or somesuch, but was *not* the same order just minus the CD. Could this have happened? If your disk2 from the original boot order had become disk1, would that explain what you saw? The only was that I found to rectify this was use a boot from a USB device with boot0 on it: USB: F5 - disk1 Disk1: F1 - boots FreeBSD And now, subsequent reboots work fine: Disk1: F1 - boots FresBSD --Alex ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: Reproducible panic of 6.2 on double mount ntfs
Jan Henrik Sylvester wrote: With '/dev/ad0s1 /mnt/ad0s1 ntfs ro,noauto 0 0' in fstab, if I issue 'mount /mnt/ad0s1' twice, I always get a panic with the message: panic: lockmgr: locking against myself I should have done some more intelligent research before... kern/89966 (6.0-STABLE) is exactly what I see. (The difference between my mount+fstab and manual mount_ntfs is that the first includes ro.) kern/104393 (7.0-CURRENT) does not even have the ro, but is otherwise the same. kern/71391 (5.2.1-RELEASE) might be related... I wonder why a panic that seems to be so easy to reproduce is not analyzed and fixed -- probably ntfs is simply not very important to anyone and the panic can be avoided quite easily. Since I should be able to avoid issuing repeated execution of mount with some concentration (I ran into this four times now), it should not be too much of an issue for me, either... Regards, Jan Henrik ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
subversion: Can't Creat Directory error
Hi Using eclipse as an IDE with subclipse on a Ruby on Rails project I am getting the error svn: Can't Create Directory /long path :The filename or Extsnion is too long The svn server is on freebsd 6.1 with apache/webdav and the error is reported from a win XP x64 client on our local network. Can onyone please guide me on how to deal with this problem? Does anyone happen to know where this limitation is likely to be coming from and how it might be overcome? Thanks in advance David ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: ip address location database
Heiko Wundram (Beenic) writes: I am looking towards setting up something which will let me know what part of the world a specific ip address is from. Check out: http://www.maxmind.com/ Also net/GeoIP. Robert Huff ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: system crash/reset
Ghirai [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: I'm running 6.2-RELEASE, with xfce. Suddenly, everything froze. Couple seconds after that, the system resets. I ran fsck and everything seem to be ok. This is what /var/log/messages looks like right before reset: Aug 22 01:19:55 deimos kernel: umass0: BBB reset failed, IOERROR Aug 22 01:19:55 deimos kernel: umass0: BBB bulk-in clear stall failed, IOERROR Aug 22 01:19:55 deimos kernel: umass0: BBB bulk-out clear stall failed, IOERROR Aug 22 01:19:55 deimos kernel: umass0: BBB reset failed, IOERROR Aug 22 01:19:55 deimos kernel: umass0: BBB bulk-in clear stall failed, IOERROR Aug 22 01:19:55 deimos kernel: umass0: BBB bulk-out clear stall failed, IOERROR Aug 22 01:19:55 deimos kernel: umass0: BBB reset failed, IOERROR Aug 22 01:19:55 deimos kernel: umass0: BBB bulk-in clear stall failed, IOERROR Aug 22 01:19:55 deimos kernel: umass0: BBB bulk-out clear stall failed, IOERROR Aug 22 01:19:55 deimos kernel: Opened disk da0 - 5 And it repeats that numerous times. I might add that i'm using a 'default' microsoft, 3 button USB mouse, which doesn't work untill i remove and stick it in again. I have usbd_enable=YES and moused_enable=YES in /etc/rc.conf. Also, i didn't have any additional media in any of the USB ports (da0 appears in /dev when i use a flash drive for example). System temperature is a non-issue. Any idea what the problem is? Well, *something* plugged in thought it was a umass device (or at least the kernel thought it was), and refused to accept disk commands... ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
spammers harvesting emaill address from this list
It only takes 2-3 weeks after changing my email address I use on the list before I start receiving spam on the new email address. Other non-fbsd lists I belong to remove the posters email address before the post gets sent to the list members. Why can't this list do the same thing so the posters email address don't show up in the archives on the news group servers where spammers harvest the posters email address for targeting spam to? ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: spammers harvesting emaill address from this list
On Thu, Aug 23, 2007 at 09:11:21AM -0400, fbsd2 wrote: It only takes 2-3 weeks after changing my email address I use on the list before I start receiving spam on the new email address. Other non-fbsd lists I belong to remove the posters email address before the post gets sent to the list members. Why can't this list do the same thing so the posters email address don't show up in the archives on the news group servers where spammers harvest the posters email address for targeting spam to? Because then you would not be able to send your reply to the person asking a question. Keep in mind that many people who post here are *not* subscribed to the list and therefore will not be able to read answers that only go to the list. Therefore their e-mail addresses need to be visible to everybody. -- Insert your favourite quote here. Erik Trulsson [EMAIL PROTECTED] ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
un-zipping pkzip files om fbsd
I receive a pkzip file created under ms/windows. What can I use under fbsd to un-zip this file? ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: SATA to PCI cards
From: Bahman M. [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] CC: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: SATA to PCI cards Date: Thu, 23 Aug 2007 07:51:52 +0330 Yes, I've had good luck with the Promise brand PCI-SATA cards on 6.x. We are using this method to evolve older machines to SATA. Thanks for the hint. Would you tell me why did you choose Promise brand as it's expensive compared to the other brands? Bahman I chose Promise because all of their products I've ever bought have worked for me in disk management. It was a roll of the dice as to it would work or not. Plus, it was the only card the vendor had that I have used for years. Thus, no guarantee for all, but they have worked on sever different motherboards so far and all are running fbsd-6.x (mostly 6.2). The ones I bought were $72 each and handle 2 satas 150/300. That's the best I can do to help in your case. HTH Jack _ Booking a flight? Know when to buy with airfare predictions on MSN Travel. http://travel.msn.com/Articles/aboutfarecast.aspxocid=T001MSN25A07001 ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: un-zipping pkzip files om fbsd
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Re: un-zipping pkzip files om fbsd
On Aug 23, 2007, at 8:27 AMAug 23, 2007, fbsd2 wrote: I receive a pkzip file created under ms/windows. What can I use under fbsd to un-zip this file? Does unzip fail to un-zip the file? - Eric F Crist Secure Computing Networks ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: un-zipping pkzip files om fbsd
On Thu, Aug 23, 2007 at 09:27:37AM -0400, fbsd2 wrote: I receive a pkzip file created under ms/windows. What can I use under fbsd to un-zip this file? archivers/unzip ? You can also try (bsd)tar in base (libarchive can handle zip files). Yuri ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: FreeBSD MBRs
Christopher Key wrote: I've a machine with 3 SATA drives. The first (ad8) with a standard FreeBSD install in a single slice with /boot/boot0 MBR. The remaining two drives (ad10, ad12) are in a RAID1 mirror with 3 slices, and used for storing data. They have the /boot/mbr MBR. Ok. Let's call them the first (ad8), second (ad10) and third (ad12) drive After booting off various USB flash drives to try and update the BIOS on my machine, it got into a state where during startup, it would display 'Missing operating system' and hang. What seems to have been happening is that it was trying to boot from one of my data store drives, despite the boot order of the disks set in the BIOS. Flashing the BIOS often resets all settings, including boot order. Depending on your BIOS, controller and motherboard, you might need to first select the active controller, then the drive on the controller. In your case, you need to finally tell BIOS to boot of the first drive (ad8). Another thing that might be happening (though judging from what you said elsewhere it's not probable) is that the changed BIOS code enumerates devices differently than it used to, so ad8 is no longer the drive with boot0. This case will not hurt your RAID if you used gmirror, it might for other systems. The only solution that I found was to start booting from a USB flash drive with a boot0 MBR, and to hit F5 to change to booting from my first drive After this, the machine then reboots quite happily until I hit F5 again, in which case I get the same 'Missing operating behavior'. This persists even while power cycling the machine. Ok, so now you're booting from the first drive, and with F5 you're telling your boot loader to skip it and move on to the second drive, which has the standard mbr (this mbr is what's displaying the Missing operating system message). I had imagined the boot process to be entirely stateless, certainly across power cycles. The BIOS executes the MBR on the first drive in its boot boot. The boot0 MBR then allowed you to either execute the boot sector from any of the slices on the current drive, or to execute the MBR from the next drive in the list. boot0 will by default remember what's the last option you booted from and use it as the default for the next time. It may not be the best thing for you, but I found it to be extremely useful behaviour in several cases, since it allowed me to script a boot order when the BIOS and the disk controller didn't get along for booting. However, this clearly isn't what's happening. Is it boot0 remembering my F5 key stroke, or is it more likely that the BIOS is remembering something? Does anyone have any recommendations to avoid this in the future? Is putting boot0 on all three drives a good idea perhaps? It will not hurt in any case to put boot0 on any drives (as long as you do it with the appropriate utility, else you may destroy the partition table). In your case, it will only be useless. Here's something to try (I didn't try it): Do you have active partitions on the second and the third drive? If so, you might want to unmark them, and hopefully the boot loader won't display the drives in the boot menu. Maybe. Or, if you're seriously worried about hitting F5 during boot, you might try an alternative boot loader such as sysutils/extipl or sysutils/grub. signature.asc Description: OpenPGP digital signature
RE: spammers harvesting emaill address from this list
On Thu, Aug 23, 2007 at 09:11:21AM -0400, fbsd2 wrote: It only takes 2-3 weeks after changing my email address I use on the list before I start receiving spam on the new email address. Other non-fbsd lists I belong to remove the posters email address before the post gets sent to the list members. Why can't this list do the same thing so the posters email address don't show up in the archives on the news group servers where spammers harvest the posters email address for targeting spam to? Because then you would not be able to send your reply to the person asking a question. Keep in mind that many people who post here are *not* subscribed to the list and therefore will not be able to read answers that only go to the list. Therefore their e-mail addresses need to be visible to everybody. -Original Message- From: Erik Trulsson [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Thursday, August 23, 2007 9:20 AM To: fbsd2 Cc: [EMAIL PROTECTED] ORG Subject: Re: spammers harvesting email address from this list Them how about changing usage rules that only subscribed users can post and receive mail on this list. That works for many other lists and stops the spam problem cold. Really something has to be done to stop spam from this list. Forcing people to subscribe to this list is not a show stopper and is fast becoming the standard way other lists control spam email harvesting. Why should the subscribed members have to deal with spam just for the connivance of people who are too lazy to subscribe? This list admin needs to get their priorities straight. Subscribed members protection comes before the lazy public. ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: spammers harvesting emaill address from this list
On Thu, 23 Aug 2007 15:19:57 +0200, Erik Trulsson wrote: On Thu, Aug 23, 2007 at 09:11:21AM -0400, fbsd2 wrote: It only takes 2-3 weeks after changing my email address I use on the list before I start receiving spam on the new email address. Other non-fbsd lists I belong to remove the posters email address before the post gets sent to the list members. Why can't this list do the same thing so the posters email address don't show up in the archives on the news group servers where spammers harvest the posters email address for targeting spam to? Because then you would not be able to send your reply to the person asking a question. Keep in mind that many people who post here are *not* subscribed to the list and therefore will not be able to read answers that only go to the list. Therefore their e-mail addresses need to be visible to everybody. Exactly. I subscribe to a _lot_ of mailing lists that allow posting (like this one), and I can't recall any of them removing sender addresses. I do expect that kind of behaviour on web forums, and that's one of the reasons I prefer mailing lists. cheers, joel ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: ls there any way to limit the server resource per user?
Roland Smith wrote: On Wed, Aug 22, 2007 at 12:34:22PM -0700, ann kok wrote: thank you Can I limit the bandwidth by user what they use any program to download and upload? The pf firewall can do this. Filter packets by user, then assign them to an appropriate queue. Read pf.conf(5). You'll have to rebuild the kernel with altq(4), since it's not in the generic kernel and it's not available as a module. ipfw+dummynet can do that also, and they are available as modules (no need to rebuild the kernel). signature.asc Description: OpenPGP digital signature
Re: spammers harvesting emaill address from this list
On Thu, Aug 23, 2007 at 09:39:43AM -0400, fbsd2 wrote: On Thu, Aug 23, 2007 at 09:11:21AM -0400, fbsd2 wrote: It only takes 2-3 weeks after changing my email address I use on the list before I start receiving spam on the new email address. Other non-fbsd lists I belong to remove the posters email address before the post gets sent to the list members. Why can't this list do the same thing so the posters email address don't show up in the archives on the news group servers where spammers harvest the posters email address for targeting spam to? Because then you would not be able to send your reply to the person asking a question. Keep in mind that many people who post here are *not* subscribed to the list and therefore will not be able to read answers that only go to the list. Therefore their e-mail addresses need to be visible to everybody. -Original Message- From: Erik Trulsson [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Thursday, August 23, 2007 9:20 AM To: fbsd2 Cc: [EMAIL PROTECTED] ORG Subject: Re: spammers harvesting email address from this list Them how about changing usage rules that only subscribed users can post and receive mail on this list. That works for many other lists and stops the spam problem cold. Really something has to be done to stop spam from this list. Forcing people to subscribe to this list is not a show stopper and is fast becoming the standard way other lists control spam email harvesting. Why should the subscribed members have to deal with spam just for the connivance of people who are too lazy to subscribe? This list admin needs to get their priorities straight. Subscribed members protection comes before the lazy public. For this list (freebsd-questions@) in particular it is intentionally and explicitly the case that one does not need to be subscribed to post here. This is because it is the main support forum for FreeBSD, and much documentation exists directing people to ask their questions here. The list admins do have their priorities straight - they just have different priorities than you do. -- Insert your favourite quote here. Erik Trulsson [EMAIL PROTECTED] ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: spammers harvesting emaill address from this list
It only takes 2-3 weeks after changing my email address I use on the list before I start receiving spam on the new email address. Other non-fbsd lists I belong to remove the posters email address before the post gets sent to the list members. Why can't this list do the same thing so the posters email address don't show up in the archives on the news group servers where spammers harvest the posters email address for targeting spam to? how about installing a proper spam-filter? you could add a chapter to your handbook too. myself is reading these kind of lists through gmail, and i hardly see any spam coming by. regards, usleep ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: Configuring OpenLDAP on FreeBSD 6.2 Release, Problems.
Sorry, I am pretty new with LDAP too :) I have no documentation beside the one I found from Googling around. Hi Olivier, There are a few good books about LDAP out there, but most of them are quite old unfortunately. Anyhow, I found that reading LDAP System Administration by Gerald Carter from O'Reilly was a good help in understanding LDAP, deploying OpenLDAP and configuring applications to fetch data from the LDAP directory (i.e. sendmail, replace NIS, PAM, FTP, Apache, DNS, etc). Get more info at http://www.oreilly.com/catalog/ldapsa/index.html For a more in depth look into LDAP itself, get your hands on Understanding and Deploying LDAP Directory Services by Timothy A. Howes al. from Addison-Wesley. Again, it's rather old, but will still help your understanding of LDAP quite a lot. Check it out on Amazon at http://www.amazon.ca/Understanding-Deploying-LDAP-Directory-Services/dp/0672323168/ref=wl_itt_dp/702-7398595-5616835?ie=UTF8coliid=IDX1KGHZ13UXHcolid=CWBQ1L7F8P6P Next is the Oracle Internet Directory Administrator's Guide document which covers LDAP very well, just don't read the Oracle specific stuff if you're not interested. You can reach this doc for free at http://download-east.oracle.com/docs/cd/B14099_11/idmanage.1012/b14082/toc.htm Finally, for a more OpenLDAP centric book, look for OpenLDAP by Example: Practical Exercises in LDAP Directory Deployment by John H. Terpstra Benjamin Coles from Prentice Hall PTR. Contrary to the other books, this one is not yet published (as you can see from http://www.amazon.ca/OpenLDAP-Example-Practical-Exercises-Deployment/dp/0131488732/ref=wl_itt_dp/702-7398595-5616835?ie=UTF8coliid=I1YEUBXAR8YIE3colid=CWBQ1L7F8P6P ;) Seems quite promising. We'll see Good luck, David -- David Robillard UNIX systems administrator Oracle DBA CISSP, RHCE Sun Certified Security Administrator Montreal: +1 514 966 0122 ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: spammers harvesting emaill address from this list
On Aug 23, 2007, at 8:11 AMAug 23, 2007, fbsd2 wrote: It only takes 2-3 weeks after changing my email address I use on the list before I start receiving spam on the new email address. Other non-fbsd lists I belong to remove the posters email address before the post gets sent to the list members. Why can't this list do the same thing so the posters email address don't show up in the archives on the news group servers where spammers harvest the posters email address for targeting spam to? I've been a list a participant for many years, and I've not had a huge problem with spam that hasn't been able to be dealt with through the use of tools like SpamAssassin and my mail client's built-in anti- spam filters. Unfortunately, there really isn't any way to make 100% certain that your email address won't end up on a spammer's list, unless you never use the address. If you're not going to use it, however, what's the point. You've got the right idea by using a different account for list messages and such. Just do your best to use the tools at your disposal. - Eric F Crist Secure Computing Networks ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: ls there any way to limit the server resource per user?
available as a module. ipfw+dummynet can do that also, and they are available as modules (no need to rebuild the kernel). used for some times, no problems. ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: Minimal gateway hardware configuration
(cheap) PC to act as the gateway. The hardware specification is CPU: Pentium II at 433MHz RAM: 128MB HDD: IDE 4GB LAN Card: D-Link 538FE Internet connection is a slow one below 512Kbps and there is only one other node than the gateway in the network. Is the configuration enough? for pure gateway/nat 486 with 8MB RAM is enough with netbsd, and with freebsd will be too but i'm not sure FreeBSD can be used on 8MB, for sure it can on 16. i'm using such configurations (486/25 to 50, 8MB RAM) many places. hardware was for free. on machine you specified you may use squid and make your mailserver etc. without problems. ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: Minimal gateway hardware configuration
Then my configuration is not minimal I'd say :-) Thanks. so make use of it's huge power. first make gateway, then add squid at least. possibly mail etc. ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: Minimal gateway hardware configuration
One other question -a bit silly: If I use that configuration as the gateway, can it be left on and working 24x7? I mean, regarding the _hardware_, how often does it need to be powered off: once a day, once a week, ... to prevent hardware failures such as HDD crash? actually disks feel better when running 24/7. other elements too. stable temperature etc... ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: Minimal gateway hardware configuration
You will be pleasantly surprised to find out that with adequate cooling and a good quality power supply, most standard PCs can go on for ages without a single problem, no shutdowns, no reboots. A UPS is also such low end (by today standards) machine is actually better. it rarely overheats. ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: syslog redundancy
Can syslogd provide failover redundancy to another box? yes. man syslogd man syslog.conf and i must say - it works. very well for a long time Should I configure my devices to send to two different syslogd servers? (if the devices allow more then one syslogd box to log to. If not I would like to know if the first option is available.) ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: fsck strangeness
On Thu, 23 Aug 2007, Karol Kwiatkowski wrote:
Ian Smith wrote:
On Thu, 23 Aug 2007, Karol Kwiatkowski wrote:
Ian Smith wrote:
On Wed, 22 Aug 2007, Chris wrote:
If its bad to run fsck on a mounted read,write then why does
background fsck do it? or you talking about foreground fsck only?
Well I was referring to foreground fsck, and I still don't know why
running it on a mounted fs is 'bad' when fsck runs in 'NO WRITE' mode
anyway when it finds a fs is mounted, hence my query above.
Here's my understanding:
Mounted fs (rw) isn't in stable state, there may be some writes to it -
daemons, buffers flushes, etc. In this condition fsck can report
inconsistency. And fsck running in 'NO WRITE' won't help anyway :)
a) Absolutely.
b) Indeed it usually does, fairly consistently, especially on /var.
c) No it won't help (except where it can help locate problems in a real
mess like bad blocks), but the assertion in question was, can it hurt?
Ah sorry, I missed that. With 'NO WRITE' one can suppose it shouldn't
hurt anything except performance ;)
I made a quick scan through the source and it looks like it won't:
- in src/sbin/fsck_ffs/setup.c
if fs is mounted rw fswritefd is set to -1
Ah, the source, who would have thought .. so it does ..
if (bkgrdflag == 0
(nflag || (fswritefd = open(dev, O_WRONLY)) 0)) {
fswritefd = -1;
if (preen)
pfatal(NO WRITE ACCESS);
printf( (NO WRITE));
}
.. which explore answered the flip side of my query, I think: fsck (in
fg mode) _will_ update an fs mounted readonly, unless -n is specified.
- in src/sbin/fsck_ffs/fsutil.c
blwrite(), flush() and ckfini() won't write anything if fswritefd0
Unless, of course, I'm missing something.
I'll keep using -n to be sure for 'casual' fsck, never failed me, and
one day I may figure out how bg fsck works. Thanks for the tute :)
Cheers, Ian
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Re[2]: spammers harvesting emaill address from this list
On August 23, 2007 at 10:31AM Jonathan Shoemaker wrote: fbsd2 Why should the subscribed members have to deal with spam fbsd2 just for the connivance of people who are too lazy to fbsd2 subscribe? fbsd2 This list admin needs to get their priorities straight. fbsd2 Subscribed members protection comes before the lazy public. A lot of people who migrate to freebsd have never been confronted with anything more complex than windows, so it makes sense to make getting help as easy as possible. The experience of converting to a *nix system is a daunting one for a first-timer; it takes a whole new shift in thinking, and people adapt at different rates. Bear in mind, though, that these people may one day end up being the ones to contribute new improvements, ports, assistance, and so forth. Doesn't it make sense for a free, community supported operating system to provide that support in the easiest manner possible? I employed Windows for years before ever venturing to try FBSD. Doing that time I subscribed to numerous mailing list. I fail to see any correlation between migrating from a Windows based OS to a FBSD one has to do with subscribing to a list. Anyone, with the possible exception of an AOL'er and an occasional Googler could accomplish that feat. Compromising the fundamental security and privacy of the end user is more important than servicing those who lack the ability and or ambition to subscribe to a mail forum like this. -- Gerard ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: Donation Manager Needed
Hi, I know its REALLY bad form to feed the trolls, but I found this seriously funny... ESPECIALLY when you look up the WHOIS record for this and it mentions Lagos, Nigeria. Tuc ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
RE: Configuring OpenLDAP on FreeBSD 6.2 Release, Problems.
The concept of openLDAP and its integration with FreeBSD seems pretty broad and somewhat overwelm, I found a hint link, yet I am looking for a more specific article that would elaborate in depth the aspects of openLDAP and FreeBSD at a corporate level. http://www.bsdforums.org/forums/showthread.php?t=49221 Thank in advance for your help and if see anything relate to this let me/us know. Date: Thu, 23 Aug 2007 09:21:09 +0700 From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] CC: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: Configuring OpenLDAP on FreeBSD 6.2 Release, Problems. I think it may be a problem there, do you have any how to for that configur= ation, in case I can double check. Off course besides the info provide at o= penldap.org. Thanks in advance. Sorry, I am pretty new with LDAP too :) I have no documentation beside the one I found from Googling around. Olivier ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] _ See what you’re getting into…before you go there http://newlivehotmail.com/?ocid=TXT_TAGHM_migration_HM_viral_preview_0507___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: spammers harvesting emaill address from this list
fbsd2 wrote: It only takes 2-3 weeks after changing my email address I use on the list before I start receiving spam on the new email address. Other non-fbsd lists I belong to remove the posters email address before the post gets sent to the list members. Why can't this list do the same thing so the posters email address don't show up in the archives on the news group servers where spammers harvest the posters email address for targeting spam to? Every message that comes through the list has the 'List-id: freebsd-questions.freebsd.org' header. If spam is a concern, you could always set up a dedicated list email address and have your MUA delete anything to that address not containing that header. This would prevent people from replying to you directly, but they wouldn't anyways if your email address wasn't listed in the first place. Personally, the most infuriating spam I get is the 'Message delivery failure' messages received en masse from poorly configured mail servers when some spammer decides to use my address as the return-path. -- Fuzzy love, -CyberLeo Technical Administrator CyberLeo.Net Webhosting http://www.CyberLeo.Net [EMAIL PROTECTED] Furry Peace! - http://.fur.com/peace/ ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: Configuring OpenLDAP on FreeBSD 6.2 Release, Problems.
Hello, On 8/23/07, David Robillard [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Sorry, I am pretty new with LDAP too :) I have no documentation beside the one I found from Googling around. Hi Olivier, There are a few good books about LDAP out there, but most of them are quite old unfortunately. Anyhow, I found that reading LDAP System Administration by Gerald Carter from O'Reilly was a good help in understanding LDAP, deploying OpenLDAP and configuring applications to fetch data from the LDAP directory (i.e. sendmail, replace NIS, PAM, FTP, Apache, DNS, etc). Get more info at http://www.oreilly.com/catalog/ldapsa/index.html I really recommend this book. Its initial chapters helped me get openldap up and running just for a couple of hours. Since I am also interested in programming and scripting with ldap I also found helpful Deploying OpenLDAP by Tom Jackiewicz http://www.amazon.com/gp/product/1590594134/105-1483603-1926857. It contains a chapter discussing the LDAP APIs for a couple of languages. Regards Rambius -- Tangra Mega Rock: http://www.radiotangra.com ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: fsck strangeness
Ian Smith wrote: My knowledge of this is thin, despite reading McKusick's paper through several times, but we're told that background fsck runs on a snapshot of the fs concerned. How any bg fsck corrections are woven back into the live fs later is still a mystery to me, but that's because I still have an only barely superficial understanding of how snapshots work .. Background FSCK only repairs a small subset of filesystem incosistencies. Specifically, those inconsistencies that softupdates allows to occur, such as data blocks allocated out of the bitmap, but not actually assigned to any inode. Background FSCK only needs to find these (by looking at a fully consistent and unchanging snapshot of the filesystem) and deallocate them in the live filesystem, a simple operation given that it's guaranteed nothing will be using a block that is both marked used and not assigned to anything. -- Fuzzy love, -CyberLeo Technical Administrator CyberLeo.Net Webhosting http://www.CyberLeo.Net [EMAIL PROTECTED] Furry Peace! - http://.fur.com/peace/ ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
FreeBSD USB disks - booting and backups
I'm thinking of backing up my FreeBSD 6.2 webmail server by installing FreeBSD onto the USB, and then dumping the whole filesystem onto the USB. That way, in the event of a drive failure, I can boot off the USB drive, and then just restore everything onto the webmail server. Has anyone else done this? I haven't found any mention via Google, which has me concerned that there might be a good reason no one's done this that I haven't thought of.One issue I ran into thus far has been the 500 GB Western Digital MyBook USB drive I tried first makes my system crash when I plug it in. I can get another USB drive and repurpose the one I've got right now, but before I put any more resources into this idea, I thought I'd bounce it off some experts. Any suggestions, links, etc. welcomed. Particularly for large capacity USB drives that won't crash my system. Regards, -- Patrick Baldwin Systems Administrator Studsvik Scandpower, Inc. 1087 Beacon St. Newton, MA 02459 1-617-965-7455 ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: spammers harvesting emaill address from this list
fbsd2 [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: It only takes 2-3 weeks after changing my email address I use on the list before I start receiving spam on the new email address. Spammers have their robots harvest addresses from a number of sources, including but not limited to web pages of all kinds and any and all files accessible from malware infected hosts. Other non-fbsd lists I belong to remove the posters email address before the post gets sent to the list members. Why can't this list do the same thing Seriously, I can see some logic in removing or obfuscating email addresses in web accessible list archives, but making it hard to impossible for other list subscribers to followup to poster would make the freebsd mailing lists a lot less useful. Making spammers fun to watch: Publish your list of known bad spamtrap addresses, watch them use their harvested garbage to trigger their own descent into the spamd tarpit. Details via selected posts in my blog (the blogspot.com ref in the signature). Cheers, -- Peter N. M. Hansteen, member of the first RFC 1149 implementation team http://bsdly.blogspot.com/ http://www.datadok.no/ http://www.nuug.no/ Remember to set the evil bit on all malicious network traffic delilah spamd[29949]: 85.152.224.147: disconnected after 42673 seconds. ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: fsck strangeness
On Thu, 23 Aug 2007, CyberLeo Kitsana wrote: Ian Smith wrote: My knowledge of this is thin, despite reading McKusick's paper through several times, but we're told that background fsck runs on a snapshot of the fs concerned. How any bg fsck corrections are woven back into the live fs later is still a mystery to me, but that's because I still have an only barely superficial understanding of how snapshots work .. Background FSCK only repairs a small subset of filesystem incosistencies. Specifically, those inconsistencies that softupdates allows to occur, such as data blocks allocated out of the bitmap, but not actually assigned to any inode. Background FSCK only needs to find these (by looking at a fully consistent and unchanging snapshot of the filesystem) and deallocate them in the live filesystem, a simple operation given that it's guaranteed nothing will be using a block that is both marked used and not assigned to anything. Thanks for that nutshell, CL. Sometimes little bits help the most ^}= ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: spammers harvesting emaill address from this list
Peter N. M. Hansteen wrote: Seriously, I can see some logic in removing or obfuscating email addresses in web accessible list archives, but making it hard to impossible for other list subscribers to followup to poster would make the freebsd mailing lists a lot less useful. Maybe so. But we could be allowed to register two addresses - one that we use for sending and another one for reception of list mail. And if someone prefers to use a bogus sending address, that should not matter as long as the other address is real. I should like to see a system of this sort (or similar) on all the FreeBSD mailing lists. -- Tore ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: spammers harvesting emaill address from this list
Written by Gerard on 08/23/07 10:10 On August 23, 2007 at 10:31AM Jonathan Shoemaker wrote: fbsd2 Why should the subscribed members have to deal with spam fbsd2 just for the connivance of people who are too lazy to fbsd2 subscribe? fbsd2 This list admin needs to get their priorities straight. fbsd2 Subscribed members protection comes before the lazy public. A lot of people who migrate to freebsd have never been confronted with anything more complex than windows, so it makes sense to make getting help as easy as possible. The experience of converting to a *nix system is a daunting one for a first-timer; it takes a whole new shift in thinking, and people adapt at different rates. Bear in mind, though, that these people may one day end up being the ones to contribute new improvements, ports, assistance, and so forth. Doesn't it make sense for a free, community supported operating system to provide that support in the easiest manner possible? I employed Windows for years before ever venturing to try FBSD. Doing that time I subscribed to numerous mailing list. I fail to see any correlation between migrating from a Windows based OS to a FBSD one has to do with subscribing to a list. Anyone, with the possible exception of an AOL'er and an occasional Googler could accomplish that feat. Compromising the fundamental security and privacy of the end user is more important than servicing those who lack the ability and or ambition to subscribe to a mail forum like this. First, your anonymity and privacy is not under the care of the FreeBSD foundation, nor any other public mailing list that you volunteer your information to. Second, email is not the back door to your world. An email address is a point of contact for some entity on the internet, that's all. If you don't want it known, don't submit it a public record. Your privacy and security are your own responsibility. Third, this is not a forum. It is a mailing list. Mailing lists disseminate messages to a list of subscribers. That's all they do. If you want to talk on a forum, where your inbox is not involved, I suggest you look in to www.bsdforums.org. ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
load script at bootup
#!/bin/sh Ping -Dc 3600 xxx.xxx.xxx.xxx | tail -4 /root/stat date /root/stat echo === /root/stat I wrote this script for collecting ping statistic (after I email to a group the stat file). 1. how can I run this at startup 2. how can I restart this script after 3600 counts down 3. Is there a program, script or any way more appropriate to track the packet loss and ping availability.? Thank you in advance ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: FreeBSD USB disks - booting and backups
I'm thinking of backing up my FreeBSD 6.2 webmail server by installing FreeBSD onto the USB, and then dumping the whole filesystem onto the USB. That way, in the event of a drive failure, I can boot off the USB drive, and then just restore everything onto the webmail server. good idea. man rsync :) Has anyone else done this? I haven't found any mention via Google, i'm doing this with my notebook. ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: load script at bootup
On Aug 23, 2007, at 1:48 PMAug 23, 2007, Narek Gharibyan wrote: #!/bin/sh Ping -Dc 3600 xxx.xxx.xxx.xxx | tail -4 /root/stat date / root/stat echo === /root/stat I wrote this script for collecting ping statistic (after I email to a group the stat file). 1. how can I run this at startup You can use cron with an entry similar to: @reboot /path/to/script.sh This will work as long as your script has the execute bit set for the user trying to run it. 2. how can I restart this script after 3600 counts down You can use something like sleep, or you can schedule, again using cron, the script to run every 3600 seconds. An entry such as: 0 * * * * /path/to/script.sh This will re-run your script every hour, on the hour. 3. Is there a program, script or any way more appropriate to track the packet loss and ping availability.? I would recommend using some nrpe module you write for nagios and/or cacti to monitor and even graph this information. Thank you in advance No problem! - Eric F Crist Secure Computing Networks ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: load script at bootup
Take a look at SmokePing. We use it here to keep track of a mediocre internet connection. It graphs over time what your ping and latency was for any given target. http://oss.oetiker.ch/smokeping/ I'll let others address the starting at boot time, as I won't be able to describe it good. I will say that you should probably be looking at your /etc/rc.conf file. Make your script accessbile via a myscript_enable=YES call, and you're well on your way. -- S i x F e e t U p | Nowhere to go but open source Silicon Valley: +1 (650) 401-8579 x609 Midwest: +1 (317) 861-5948 x609 Toll-Free: 1-866-SIX-FEET mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] http://www.sixfeetup.com | Zope/Plone Custom Development Narek Gharibyan wrote: #!/bin/sh Ping -Dc 3600 xxx.xxx.xxx.xxx | tail -4 /root/stat date /root/stat echo === /root/stat I wrote this script for collecting ping statistic (after I email to a group the stat file). 1. how can I run this at startup 2. how can I restart this script after 3600 counts down 3. Is there a program, script or any way more appropriate to track the packet loss and ping availability.? Thank you in advance ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: load script at bootup
At 01:48 PM 8/23/2007, Narek Gharibyan wrote: #!/bin/sh Ping -Dc 3600 xxx.xxx.xxx.xxx | tail -4 /root/stat date /root/stat echo === /root/stat I wrote this script for collecting ping statistic (after I email to a group the stat file). 1. how can I run this at startup 2. how can I restart this script after 3600 counts down 3. Is there a program, script or any way more appropriate to track the packet loss and ping availability.? Thank you in advance Add your script to root's crontab. do a man on crontab for the exact syntax, but you can have it run @reboot then an interval. -Derek -- This message has been scanned for viruses and dangerous content by MailScanner, and is believed to be clean. MailScanner thanks transtec Computers for their support. ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
PCIe gigabit network card
i have to buy one, but i don't want to buy crappy/unsuported one. what chipset/manufacturer i should look at. they are for 20-40$ here, may brands many chips. please help. ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: load script at bootup
On 24-Aug-07, at 12:18 AM, Narek Gharibyan wrote: #!/bin/sh Ping -Dc 3600 xxx.xxx.xxx.xxx | tail -4 /root/stat date / root/stat echo === /root/stat I wrote this script for collecting ping statistic (after I email to a group the stat file). 1. how can I run this at startup 2. how can I restart this script after 3600 counts down For 1 and 2, 'man cron', 'man crontab' 3. Is there a program, script or any way more appropriate to track the packet loss and ping availability.? You may write your own script which parses the output of ping using grep/awk/... regards, shantanoo
Re: spammers harvesting emaill address from this list
On Thursday 23 August 2007, Erik Trulsson wrote: For this list (freebsd-questions@) in particular it is intentionally and explicitly the case that one does not need to be subscribed to post here. This is because it is the main support forum for FreeBSD, and much documentation exists directing people to ask their questions here. This does, in fact, open up a distinct possibility for list subscribers who want to stop their address being harvested. Subscribe to the list with one email address such that one receives the list emails but post to the list with a different address. -- Dave ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: PCIe gigabit network card
On Thu, Aug 23, 2007 at 09:01:51PM +0200, Wojciech Puchar wrote: i have to buy one, but i don't want to buy crappy/unsuported one. what chipset/manufacturer i should look at. they are for 20-40$ here, may brands many chips. please help. My suggestion would be to take a look at the 'Intel PRO/1000 PT' card. It works fine with FreeBSD and Intel's network cards are generally considered to be among the better ones. -- Insert your favourite quote here. Erik Trulsson [EMAIL PROTECTED] ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: spammers harvesting emaill address from this list
--On Thursday, August 23, 2007 20:06:47 +0100 dgmm [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On Thursday 23 August 2007, Erik Trulsson wrote: For this list (freebsd-questions@) in particular it is intentionally and explicitly the case that one does not need to be subscribed to post here. This is because it is the main support forum for FreeBSD, and much documentation exists directing people to ask their questions here. This does, in fact, open up a distinct possibility for list subscribers who want to stop their address being harvested. Subscribe to the list with one email address such that one receives the list emails but post to the list with a different address. Basically, what you (and others as well) are suggesting is that the list maintainers do double the work so that you don't have to bother with spam filtering. Seems rather self-centered to me. This is the internet. Spam is endemic. Short of encasing your computer in concrete, there's no way to avoid getting spam **even if you never post to a mailing list**. Either learn to deal with it or stop subscribing to lists. -- Paul Schmehl ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) Senior Information Security Analyst The University of Texas at Dallas http://www.utdallas.edu/ir/security/
Re: spammers harvesting emaill address from this list
On Thu, Aug 23, 2007 at 06:57:02PM +0200, Peter N. M. Hansteen wrote: fbsd2 [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: It only takes 2-3 weeks after changing my email address I use on the list before I start receiving spam on the new email address. Spammers have their robots harvest addresses from a number of sources, including but not limited to web pages of all kinds and any and all files accessible from malware infected hosts. Other non-fbsd lists I belong to remove the posters email address before the post gets sent to the list members. Why can't this list do the same thing Seriously, I can see some logic in removing or obfuscating email addresses in web accessible list archives, but making it hard to impossible for other list subscribers to followup to poster would make the freebsd mailing lists a lot less useful. Making spammers fun to watch: Publish your list of known bad spamtrap addresses, watch them use their harvested garbage to trigger their own descent into the spamd tarpit. Details via selected posts in my blog (the blogspot.com ref in the signature). If your user login is smith, you could have all mailing list mail sent to smitty and keep an open mutt or other reader a click away. Spam could be easily flagged ... . I'm bcc'ing this to my account with evolution to check out your blog info. I've run into problems with spamd and other suites. gary Cheers, -- Peter N. M. Hansteen, member of the first RFC 1149 implementation team http://bsdly.blogspot.com/ http://www.datadok.no/ http://www.nuug.no/ Remember to set the evil bit on all malicious network traffic delilah spamd[29949]: 85.152.224.147: disconnected after 42673 seconds. ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] -- Gary Kline [EMAIL PROTECTED] www.thought.org Public Service Unix ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: spammers harvesting emaill address from this list
On 23/08/07, Paul Schmehl [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: --On Thursday, August 23, 2007 20:06:47 +0100 dgmm [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On Thursday 23 August 2007, Erik Trulsson wrote: For this list (freebsd-questions@) in particular it is intentionally and explicitly the case that one does not need to be subscribed to post here. This is because it is the main support forum for FreeBSD, and much documentation exists directing people to ask their questions here. This does, in fact, open up a distinct possibility for list subscribers who want to stop their address being harvested. Subscribe to the list with one email address such that one receives the list emails but post to the list with a different address. Basically, what you (and others as well) are suggesting is that the list maintainers do double the work so that you don't have to bother with spam filtering. Seems rather self-centered to me. This is the internet. Spam is endemic. Short of encasing your computer in concrete, there's no way to avoid getting spam **even if you never post to a mailing list**. Either learn to deal with it or stop subscribing to lists. Just to toss in a couple of coppers: It is quite sad to see the general openness and respect of the internet bludgeoned into submission to some need for relief from these hideous human beings. Of course, it is the same reason you have to have unlisted phone numbers, do-not-call lists, bomb searches: humans. On the other side, the days of responsilbe admins and ISPs literally pulling the plug on irresponsible users seems long past as well. I suppose I am arguing for these lists continuing the way they are, and just dealing with the fact that spam outruns legitimate mails 3:1. -- -- ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: spammers harvesting emaill address from this list
Paul Schmehl wrote: This is the internet. Spam is endemic. Short of encasing your computer in concrete, there's no way to avoid getting spam **even if you never post to a mailing list**. Either learn to deal with it or stop Bullshit. I've kept addresses spam-free for years. I usually use disposable ones for online purchasing, mailing lists, etc. What really SUCKS is the time I had to pretty much abandon a good address because I hit sent too [EMAIL PROTECTED] soon sending something here -- the ONLY publicly archived list I'm on that DOESN'T obfuscate the sender's address AND allows anyone out there to post! ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: spammers harvesting emaill address from this list
On Aug 23, 2007, at 3:20 PMAug 23, 2007, Rob wrote: Paul Schmehl wrote: This is the internet. Spam is endemic. Short of encasing your computer in concrete, there's no way to avoid getting spam **even if you never post to a mailing list**. Either learn to deal with it or stop Bullshit. I've kept addresses spam-free for years. I usually use disposable ones for online purchasing, mailing lists, etc. What really SUCKS is the time I had to pretty much abandon a good address because I hit sent too [EMAIL PROTECTED] soon sending something here -- the ONLY publicly archived list I'm on that DOESN'T obfuscate the sender's address AND allows anyone out there to post! You could choose to troll the list and not participate. The list has been set up this way for quite a long while, and I doubt there is going to be any changes made any time soon. - Eric F Crist Secure Computing Networks ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: Donation Manager Needed
On 23/08/07, Tuc at T-B-O-H.NET [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Hi, I know its REALLY bad form to feed the trolls, but I found this seriously funny... ESPECIALLY when you look up the WHOIS record for this and it mentions Lagos, Nigeria. He forgets to mention good quality, watertight boxes. Otherwise your poor tend to go bad after a while. -- -- ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: spammers harvesting emaill address from this list
Gary Kline [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: If your user login is smith, you could have all mailing list mail sent to smitty and keep an open mutt or other reader a click away. Spam could be easily flagged ... . Yes, there are several things you could filter on. However the traplist activities are really about identifying spam sending hosts. If a machine we have not exchanged mail with in recent times tries to deliver mail to something bizarre like [EMAIL PROTECTED] (which looks like it was actually based on a GNUS message-ID), the message is either spam or in some very rare cases a bounce message triggered by an attempt to deliver spam. I'm bcc'ing this to my account with evolution to check out your blog info. I've run into problems with spamd and other suites. I would be interested in hearing what the problems were. It's worth noting that spamd from OpenBSD 4.1 onwards differs in several important ways from earlier versions. And also, it's important not to confuse this spamd with the program with the same name out of spamassassin. Cheers, -- Peter N. M. Hansteen, member of the first RFC 1149 implementation team http://bsdly.blogspot.com/ http://www.datadok.no/ http://www.nuug.no/ Remember to set the evil bit on all malicious network traffic delilah spamd[29949]: 85.152.224.147: disconnected after 42673 seconds. ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: It's top shows wrong load percent?
On 22/08/07, Nguyen Tam Chinh [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: . . . vmstat -i shows that some kind of irq0: clk has a maximum value of 1000. Does this matter? . . . I can't really help with your other problems, but: no, on a 2GHz machine 1000 is a fine value for that. In case you were curious, it can be set at boot-time via a kern.hz= line in your /boot/loader.conf. -- -- ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: wildcard usage in fetch
On 21/08/07, fbsd2 [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: fetch -avrpAFU ftp://loginid:[EMAIL PROTECTED]/IDX/ActivePhotos/*/*.* The /*/ directory is 2 positions in size and contains 00 through 99 as directory names. The *.* means all files in this directory. When I execute this I get logged in but get file not found or not available error message. Is wildcard usage not allowed in ftp? How would you suggest to accomplish downloading source file directory structure and their contents? On an offhand guess, your shell is handling the wildcards. Have you tried escaping them? -- -- ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: FreeBSD USB disks - booting and backups
Wojciech Puchar wrote: I'm thinking of backing up my FreeBSD 6.2 webmail server by installing FreeBSD onto the USB, and then dumping the whole filesystem onto the USB. That way, in the event of a drive failure, I can boot off the USB drive, and then just restore everything onto the webmail server. good idea. man rsync :) I was thinking about just dump, as I'm more familiar with it, but I'll check out rsync if you think it's better for this purpose. Has anyone else done this? I haven't found any mention via Google, i'm doing this with my notebook. Great. What kind of drive? And have you actually had to do a restore? -- Patrick Baldwin Systems Administrator Studsvik Scandpower, Inc. 1087 Beacon St. Newton, MA 02459 1-617-965-7455 ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: spammers harvesting emaill address from this list
On Thursday 23 August 2007, Paul Schmehl wrote: --On Thursday, August 23, 2007 20:06:47 +0100 dgmm [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On Thursday 23 August 2007, Erik Trulsson wrote: For this list (freebsd-questions@) in particular it is intentionally and explicitly the case that one does not need to be subscribed to post here. This is because it is the main support forum for FreeBSD, and much documentation exists directing people to ask their questions here. This does, in fact, open up a distinct possibility for list subscribers who want to stop their address being harvested. Subscribe to the list with one email address such that one receives the list emails but post to the list with a different address. Basically, what you (and others as well) are suggesting is that the list maintainers do double the work so that you don't have to bother with spam filtering. How does this equate to double the work for the list maintainers? I've never operated a mailing list so I don't understand what work is involved in operating one or how that workload might be increased if some people post with one name while having the automated system mail out to a different, subscribed address Seems rather self-centered to me. In what way? This is the internet. Spam is endemic. So rather than look for multiple methods to reduce the amount of incoming to *my* address I should just accept it all and filter it locally? That seems rather irresponsible to me, ANy method which can help stop it source appeaers on the face of it to be a better solution. Short of encasing your computer in concrete, there's no way to avoid getting spam **even if you never post to a mailing list**. Either learn to deal with it or stop subscribing to lists. I'm sure that attitude will appear welcoming to new users. -- Dave ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: spammers harvesting emaill address from this list
fbsd2 wrote: It only takes 2-3 weeks after changing my email address I use on the list before I start receiving spam on the new email address. I have been on this list for years, I have my mail address published on my web site and many other places. I hardly get any spam at all, I don't use any spam filter like spamassasin on the server, only regex on header and blocking a few ip's - simple stuff. I have had one spam mail today. I did briefly have a .com domain, and despite no external links and that I never used the address on public lists, it got almost instantly spammed. My conclusion is that you are more likely to be a target with a .com domain. Cheers, Erik -- Ph: +34.666334818 web: http://www.locolomo.org ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
VMware Player 2 Linux on 6.2-RELEASE
Hi all. Has anyone tried running VMware Player 2 for Linux under the FreeBSD Linux ABI? I'll give it a go myself, of course, but I'm interested in others' experiences. My RELENG_6_2 kernel/world build server works perfectly under the WinXP version of Player 2. I'm doing this because it'd be nice if I could suspend the VM, copy it to USB stick, transfer it to BSD and start it again, so I could use the Windows box for playing a game or watching a movie while the make runs. [I can't do that with the VM running. I find WinXP tends to panic if I try to run more than one application at once. Understandable really, since it only has 1GB RAM to play with.] I've installed the vmware3 port on my i386 6.2-RELEASE-p7 laptop, but of course that won't run Player 2 machines. Any thoughts? I don't know if anyone's interested to play with this VM, but if you are let me know and I'll put it on my website. Or a Torrent tracker maybe. It's not big, less than 400MB when compressed with 7-zip. A prepackaged USB stick sized kernel/world build server? Would that be useful to anyone apart from me? BTW the disk is only a 2000MB growable VMDK, so you can't use it for a distfiles repository or building ports. TiA, Adam J Richardson ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: spammers harvesting emaill address from this list
On Thursday 23 August 2007 21:37:53 dgmm wrote: So rather than look for multiple methods to reduce the amount of incoming to *my* address I should just accept it all and filter it locally? That seems rather irresponsible to me, ANy method which can help stop it source appeaers on the face of it to be a better solution. I suggest you use a different email address for your mailing list subscriptions. You can filter so that any mail that does not come from a known list server is sent to /dev/null. Of course it will mean that any replies sent to you off-list would be lost but it would for the most part fix the spam problem. Don't let the spammers frustrate you :) ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: FreeBSD USB disks - booting and backups
On Thursday 23 August 2007 18:31:05 Patrick Baldwin wrote: I'm thinking of backing up my FreeBSD 6.2 webmail server by installing FreeBSD onto the USB, and then dumping the whole filesystem onto the USB. That way, in the event of a drive failure, I can boot off the USB drive, and then just restore everything onto the webmail server. Has anyone else done this? I haven't found any mention via Google, which has me concerned that there might be a good reason no one's done this that I haven't thought of.One issue I ran into thus far has been the 500 GB Western Digital MyBook USB drive I tried first makes my system crash when I plug it in. I can get another USB drive and repurpose the one I've got right now, but before I put any more resources into this idea, I thought I'd bounce it off some experts. Any suggestions, links, etc. welcomed. Particularly for large capacity USB drives that won't crash my system. I use it for a different purpose than you, but I've installed FreeBSD onto a 120Gb Western Digital Passport (2.5) USB drive. It was just like installing normally and works like a charm. That USB drive isn't supposed to crash your system by the way. Have you filed a PR or something? ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: spammers harvesting emaill address from this list
--On Thursday, August 23, 2007 22:37:53 +0100 dgmm [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Basically, what you (and others as well) are suggesting is that the list maintainers do double the work so that you don't have to bother with spam filtering. How does this equate to double the work for the list maintainers? I've never operated a mailing list so I don't understand what work is involved in operating one or how that workload might be increased if some people post with one name while having the automated system mail out to a different, subscribed address Most modern mailing list software tests addresses periodically, automatically to make sure they are accepting mail. Some have suggested solving the spam problem by using throwaway addresses to send email to the list **even if the address doesn't work**. Now the maintainers have to maintain a separate list of exemptions and configure separate options so that those throwaway addresses aren't dropped from the list automatically after the requisite number of bounces. And endure the endless bounce notifications from hundreds of thoughtless people. Seems rather self-centered to me. In what way? You have a problem. You want someone else to help you solve it by creating more work for them so that you'll have less work to do. This is the internet. Spam is endemic. So rather than look for multiple methods to reduce the amount of incoming to *my* address I should just accept it all and filter it locally? Absolutely. It isn't the responsibility of the rest of the world to solve your problem. That seems rather irresponsible to me, ANy method which can help stop it source appeaers on the face of it to be a better solution. Of course it does, because it requires no work on your part. It's always better if you can get someone else to expend energy on your behalf while you sit back and reap the benefits. That's why unthinking people love socialism. Short of encasing your computer in concrete, there's no way to avoid getting spam **even if you never post to a mailing list**. Either learn to deal with it or stop subscribing to lists. I'm sure that attitude will appear welcoming to new users. Gee, I'm sorry I hurt someone's feelings by suggesting they take responsibility for their own problems. Let me get down on my knees and beg forgiveness. I subscribe to more than 50 lists. You have no idea what a pleasure it is to read, over and over again, about other people's problems with spam. It's useless chatter that solves nothing and makes the list less valuable. (And yes, you do enough of it, and I'll /dev/null your address and never hear from you again.) If people took a few minutes to figure out how to rid themselves of the spam, they'd accomplish more than all the endless discussions about how to solve an unsolveable problem. -- Paul Schmehl ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) Senior Information Security Analyst The University of Texas at Dallas http://www.utdallas.edu/ir/security/
Re: What is a sane setting for maxdsize when running amd64? it seems many normal suggestions do not apply.
--- JoaoBR [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On Tuesday 21 August 2007 20:54:36 N. Harrington wrote: Hello I feel stupid, but I am confused about kern.maxdsiz (or datasize via limits command) on FreeBSD amd64. I have seen many posts and suggestions to raise it to 1G. However it seems this only applies to i386. By default, on servers I have with 4G of physical memory, and 2X that of swap, I am showing a reported datasize limit of 33554432KB. far in excess of even my physical and swap combined! I have seen suggestions from mysql for maxdsize to be set to 1G. Obviously no such problem with amd64? on amd64 when maxdsiz not set it stops at 512 limit but soon you set it to 1G it appearently is able to use more this is not the case on i386 - but I would say don't worry about it on i386 your machine could hang at boot when setting maxdsiz higher than installed physical memory but that never happened to me with amd64 I have some server running squid for caching perfect with 4, 8 and 16G of RAM I set maxdsiz do 3G on machines with 4Gigs of RAM but I do not run anything else so then I adjust cache_mem with maximum_object_size_in_memory to use the most possible amount of memory without doing swap. anyway you set it in boot.loader there is no need to compile something into the kernel -- João Thanks everyone. I tried setting my maxd size to 3.5G on a machine with 4gigs ram. It caused squid to seem to rop out on occasion. It seems so odd that on i366, maxd size is so small that one likely needs to set it higher to allow access to more memory. However on amd64, is such a high number that one would need to lower it to prevent accessing too much memory? Something really odd about that. I also found that I could even double the datasize / maxd size to 2X 33554432kB and it would boot and run just fine on a machine with 8 gigs of ram. How weird is that! Did amd64 just cause this setting to add 3 zero's? I can see the legacy documentation for i386 BSD and applications is going to cause some weirdness and problems if not careful. As for squid, just like Sendmail and Apache, yes there and plenty of I do it better and I am newer, alternatives out. But some things stay old favorites for a reason. I will take a look at Varnish, but it seemed much less user friendly to me that squid and much much less feature laden. Also, I saw no way to purge individual files from storage. (something I have to have) So it's always nicer to know how to make things work with what one has or needs to use, rather than just being told to use something else. I have over 30 machines with various configurations of squid in accelerator mode and most seem to work fine. However I will say they do have a preference for running on (1) Single core cpu and SCSI hard drives. On an average server with ~300G of disk, I have over 10M objects in storage. As usual though, I am dealing with a program(squid) that seems to be, Linux first, it happens to also run on FreeBSD second. Even though it seems many people seem to be using it with FreeBSD. Squid has also been great for me to test/beatup on gjournal (which should be in 6 by now and be available standard) and zfs. Nicole The Large Print Giveth And The Small Print Taketh Away -- Anon ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: SATA to PCI cards
I've had a huge sata issue with my promise card since I added two need sata3.0 disks to my two old sata1.5 disks. Turning off smartd seemed to make it go away, however. Never had issues with a promise board before. In the interim I bought a HiPoint, which appears to be the cadillac of sub-$300 cards, but I've yet to tweak the drivers into a functiona state. I also tried one of the $19 cards and was told by this list that they have drivers and appear to work fine, but will corrupt your data bigtime, crash unexpectedly, etc. Mine was a rosewill card, but lots of vendors are using the $19 variants. Steve On 8/22/07, Bahman M. [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Yes, I've had good luck with the Promise brand PCI-SATA cards on 6.x. We are using this method to evolve older machines to SATA. Thanks for the hint. Would you tell me why did you choose Promise brand as it's expensive compared to the other brands? Bahman Hi all, I'm running FreeBSD 6.2. $ uname -a FreeBSD attila 6.2-RELEASE FreeBSD 6.2-RELEASE #0: Fri Jan 12 10:40:27 UTC 2007 [EMAIL PROTECTED]:/usr/obj/usr/src/sys/GENERIC i386 My motherboard which is an ASUS A7V8X-X doesn't support SATA. I searched the internet and found out that there are SATA to PCI cards for my situation. Is anyone using such cards? Will they cause any problem with FreeBSD 6.2? By the way, I'd appreciate any suggestions for a good SATA to PCI card to buy. Thanks in advance, Bahman Yes, I've had good luck with the Promise brand PCI-SATA cards on 6.x. We are using this method to evolve older machines to SATA. HTH Jack _ Puzzles, trivia teasers, word scrambles and more. Play for your chance to win! http://club.live.com/home.aspx?icid=CLUB_hotmailtextlink ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] -- Steve Franks, KE7BTE Staff Engineer La Palma Devices, LLC http://www.lapalmadevices.com (520) 312-0089 ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: spammers harvesting emaill address from this list
On Thu, Aug 23, 2007 at 11:10:38PM +0200, Peter N. M. Hansteen wrote: Gary Kline [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: If your user login is smith, you could have all mailing list mail sent to smitty and keep an open mutt or other reader a click away. Spam could be easily flagged ... . Yes, there are several things you could filter on. However the traplist activities are really about identifying spam sending hosts. If a machine we have not exchanged mail with in recent times tries to deliver mail to something bizarre like [EMAIL PROTECTED] (which looks like it was actually based on a GNUS message-ID), the message is either spam or in some very rare cases a bounce message triggered by an attempt to deliver spam. I run my sendmail out to a number of filter sites, and have the greylist filtering. /etc/mail/access catches at least several thousand spam messages a day; a tail -f maillog tells me that much. I just snagged your list of IP's and catted|awk'd the bunch into my access list. TY, TY. STILL--and this really makes me angrier than it should--still, I get dozens of spams/day. Would it be possible to filter on both the ^Subject: A friend has sent you a Greeting card! as well as the body? HTML or plaintext? As soon as I see one (usually different) spam I know there well be several other similar or identical messages. How difficult would it be to flag spam on you sent greeting card, for example? Plus the hundreds of variations on Are you enough of a man? and the ones for some kind of pills? Or home loans at 5.1%!!! (*mumble*) I'm bcc'ing this to my account with evolution to check out your blog info. I've run into problems with spamd and other suites. I would be interested in hearing what the problems were. It's worth noting that spamd from OpenBSD 4.1 onwards differs in several important ways from earlier versions. And also, it's important not to confuse this spamd with the program with the same name out of spamassassin. It's been years since I looked at spamassassin. 5. Maybe three since I last got into a Snit, :), over this and checked out spamd? It just seemed like at least days of studying, followed by more days of integration. Is there any spamd documentation that follows a cookbook model? Do A, B, C, and you're done! I've found that a couple examples are worth ten thousand words. thanks again, gary Cheers, -- Peter N. M. Hansteen, member of the first RFC 1149 implementation team http://bsdly.blogspot.com/ http://www.datadok.no/ http://www.nuug.no/ Remember to set the evil bit on all malicious network traffic delilah spamd[29949]: 85.152.224.147: disconnected after 42673 seconds. -- Gary Kline [EMAIL PROTECTED] www.thought.org Public Service Unix ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: spammers harvesting emaill address from this list
I don't want to hijack this, erm, thread, but I get loads of spam (my mail goes through a hosting provider, I (post-)filter locally) and a significant part of it is loaded with technical terms, even FreeBSD specific. I suppose it's meant to confuse filters. Do other folks get this too? Dan On Friday 24 August 2007 01:00:20 Paul Schmehl wrote: --On Thursday, August 23, 2007 22:37:53 +0100 dgmm [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Basically, what you (and others as well) are suggesting is that the list maintainers do double the work so that you don't have to bother with spam filtering. How does this equate to double the work for the list maintainers? I've never operated a mailing list so I don't understand what work is involved in operating one or how that workload might be increased if some people post with one name while having the automated system mail out to a different, subscribed address Most modern mailing list software tests addresses periodically, automatically to make sure they are accepting mail. Some have suggested solving the spam problem by using throwaway addresses to send email to the list **even if the address doesn't work**. Now the maintainers have to maintain a separate list of exemptions and configure separate options so that those throwaway addresses aren't dropped from the list automatically after the requisite number of bounces. And endure the endless bounce notifications from hundreds of thoughtless people. Seems rather self-centered to me. In what way? You have a problem. You want someone else to help you solve it by creating more work for them so that you'll have less work to do. This is the internet. Spam is endemic. So rather than look for multiple methods to reduce the amount of incoming to *my* address I should just accept it all and filter it locally? Absolutely. It isn't the responsibility of the rest of the world to solve your problem. That seems rather irresponsible to me, ANy method which can help stop it source appeaers on the face of it to be a better solution. Of course it does, because it requires no work on your part. It's always better if you can get someone else to expend energy on your behalf while you sit back and reap the benefits. That's why unthinking people love socialism. Short of encasing your computer in concrete, there's no way to avoid getting spam **even if you never post to a mailing list**. Either learn to deal with it or stop subscribing to lists. I'm sure that attitude will appear welcoming to new users. Gee, I'm sorry I hurt someone's feelings by suggesting they take responsibility for their own problems. Let me get down on my knees and beg forgiveness. I subscribe to more than 50 lists. You have no idea what a pleasure it is to read, over and over again, about other people's problems with spam. It's useless chatter that solves nothing and makes the list less valuable. (And yes, you do enough of it, and I'll /dev/null your address and never hear from you again.) If people took a few minutes to figure out how to rid themselves of the spam, they'd accomplish more than all the endless discussions about how to solve an unsolveable problem. ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: spammers harvesting emaill address from this list
On Thu, Aug 23, 2007 at 04:19:06PM -0700, Gary Kline wrote: On Thu, Aug 23, 2007 at 11:10:38PM +0200, Peter N. M. Hansteen wrote: However the traplist activities are really about identifying spam sending hosts. If a machine we have not exchanged mail with in recent times tries to deliver mail to something bizarre like [EMAIL PROTECTED] (which looks like it was actually based on a GNUS message-ID), the message is either spam or in some very rare cases a bounce message triggered by an attempt to deliver spam. One comment that's almost too obvious is that the spam masters keep coming up with new twists; on idea that may not be pragmatic is to stay a few steps *ahead* of their gimmicks gary -- Gary Kline [EMAIL PROTECTED] www.thought.org Public Service Unix ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: Servers Crash every few days
On Wed, Aug 22, 2007 at 09:33:50PM +0300, Ovi wrote: Consult the developers handbook for tips on how to obtain sufficient debugging information to identify and debug a panic or hang. Kris I had the same issue, kernel panic and server reboot after tuning to high sysctl variable (like maxsockbuf, but others too) but having only 1 GB of RAM. It's possible you tuned it incorrectly. Another rebooting problem was caused by running tcpdump on high used router. Other problem can be caused by hardware problems (I had those too). I disabled once creation of coredump by kernel, and I had problem (with 6.2), when an userland app crash, the kernel panicked because of that. Last, some userland apps. can cause kernel panic and reboot. Neither of those two things should happen. When you encounter panics, you need to report them. Kris ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: spammers harvesting emaill address from this list
On Friday 24 August 2007 00:22:12 Danny Pansters wrote: I don't want to hijack this, erm, thread, but I get loads of spam (my mail goes through a hosting provider, I (post-)filter locally) and a significant part of it is loaded with technical terms, even FreeBSD specific. I suppose it's meant to confuse filters. Do other folks get this too? I get a lot of that. ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: VMware Player 2 Linux on 6.2-RELEASE
Adam J Richardson wrote: I'm doing this because it'd be nice if I could suspend the VM, copy it to USB stick, transfer it to BSD and start it again, so I could use the Windows box for playing a game or watching a movie while the make runs. Unless the two machines have identical CPUs with identical capabilities, this will likely end in failure. Operating systems aren't happy having their CPUs switch capabilities or instruction sets between one cycle and the next. Likewise, I've noticed that different CPU speeds tend to screw with the VM system clock, especially amongst speedstep CPUs. Shutting down, moving, and restarting the VM works fine though, from my experience. -- Fuzzy love, -CyberLeo Technical Administrator CyberLeo.Net Webhosting http://www.CyberLeo.Net [EMAIL PROTECTED] Furry Peace! - http://.fur.com/peace/ ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: spammers harvesting emaill address from this list
On Aug 23, 2007, at 7:45 PMAug 23, 2007, Pollywog wrote: On Friday 24 August 2007 00:22:12 Danny Pansters wrote: I don't want to hijack this, erm, thread, but I get loads of spam (my mail goes through a hosting provider, I (post-)filter locally) and a significant part of it is loaded with technical terms, even FreeBSD specific. I suppose it's meant to confuse filters. Do other folks get this too? I get a lot of that. Ditto. I get more PDF files lately and a T-O-N of the ASCII blue- pill ads... If only my old dot-matrix was looking for a good time... - Eric F Crist Secure Computing Networks ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: spammers harvesting emaill address from this list
On Thu, 23 Aug 2007 18:00:20 -0500 Paul Schmehl [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Of course it does, because it requires no work on your part. It's always better if you can get someone else to expend energy on your behalf while you sit back and reap the benefits. That's why unthinking people love socialism. Uhuhuh, you confused pure laziness with socialism (philosophical surely, historic implementations partially). Open source is very much like philosophical socialism as described by XIX- and XX-century philosophers: if you don't like the way things are done (e.g. how the road in front of your house looks like), please _do_ help: take a shovel, hammer, and _do_ (really, physically do) something. Similarly, please sit at your keyboard and do real programming. But _don't_ do two things: (1) don't pay, because someone will repair the road for you (the same as with microsoft) = you will _do_ nothing, the road won't be your work, but the work of others; (2) don't be lazy, i.e. don't wait for others to work for you as it won't happen. * Socialism (and open source and open source support groups, etc) = = insisting on both (1) and (2); * paying (as in (1)) is generally not acceptable in socialism; * paying (as in (1)) is acceptable in non-socialism (and closed source); * laziness (as in (2)) is not acceptable in both socialism and non-socialism, but * socialism sees paying (as in (1)) as a form of laziness. Important philosophical notions should be used carefully, especially if you want to degrade something. Anyway this is off-topic here. Nikola Lečić ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
RE: spammers harvesting emaill address from this list
I get more PDF files lately and a T-O-N of the ASCII blue- pill ads... - Eric F Crist Secure Computing Networks -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Behalf Of Eric Crist Sent: Thursday, August 23, 2007 9:19 PM To: Pollywog Cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: spammers harvesting email address from this list How are those ASCII blue-pill ads email getting into the email server at my ISP with those invalid headers? ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: PCIe gigabit network card
On 8/23/07, Wojciech Puchar [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: i have to buy one, but i don't want to buy crappy/unsuported one. what chipset/manufacturer i should look at. they are for 20-40$ here, may brands many chips. please help. I second the previous suggestion. I just deployed a machine to act as a router, it's been up routing traffic 24/7 for the last week on two intel/pro network cards without any problems yet. The drivers these cards use, em(4), was written by Intel, so the cards are fully supported without any crippled functionality. Newegg has a few based on this chipset for about $30. http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16833106121Tpk=PWLA8391GTBLK -Modulok- ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: FreeBSD MBRs
On Thu, Aug 23, 2007 at 11:33:02AM +0100, Christopher Key wrote: Alex Zbyslaw wrote: Jerry McAllister wrote: You only need an MBR on disks that will be booted. I don't know as it will actually hurt anything to write an MBR on non-boot, data only disks, but it can garbage up you menu with non-functional choices. What you need is an MBR on every disk which is *passed through* or actually booted from. So if you have disks 1, 2 3, if you want to boot from disk3 you need an MBR on disks 1 2 as well, even if you never boot from them. If you boot from disk 1, then 2 3 do not *need* an MBR. Those other disk with an MBR show up as an F5 and maybe F6, etc ( F5 is the *next* disk. There is no F6, F7 etc. If you boot from disk 3, for example, you'd go through three menus e.g. Disk1: F5 - disk2 Disk2: F5 - disk3 Disk3: F1 - boots FreeBSD Thanks Jerry, Lowell and Alex, That clarifies a few points. Sorry the original post wasn't clear, I'll have a go at rexpressing my original questions using the above for context. Firstly, when you hit F5, does it, a) Load the partition table from the next disk and update the displayed list of slices, or b) Execute the MBR from the next disk? I'll assume the latter. The latter is the next step if you hit F5 (which can cause an updated menu to be displayed based newly current configuration of the information on that next disk). Secondly, does boot0 'remember' that you pressed F5, and hence do the same the next time you boot, even after a power cycle? In this case, having done, It remembers, if and only if you don't hit anything during boot time. If you hit something - like F1, that becomes the choice that it works on regardless of what was hit in any previous boot. Disk1: F5 - disk2 Disk2: F5 - disk3 Disk3: F1 - boots FreeBSD the next time, it will appear as, Disk3: F1 - boots FreeBSD The behaviour that I was experiencing was as follows: Disk1: F1 - boots FresBSD reboot Disk1: F5 - disk2 Disk2: Has /boot/mbr on it, and hence attempts to boot the active slice. As there is no active slice on the disk, simply fails with the message 'Missing operating system' Now, subsequent attempts to boot simply display the message 'Missing operating system'. Hence, I concluded that either, a) boot0 was rembering the F5 keystroke, and passing me on to disk 2 automatically, or b) That the BIOS was rememering something and booting straight from disk2 despite the boot order having disk1 first. This is the behavior I would expect, but seems somewhat to contradict Alex's response. The first part seems correct that it cycles around through disks in boot order, but he said that you should see another F5 choice instead of a missing OS error.I have not had a string of disks more than two bootable disks and those being disk 0 and disk 1, so I can't be sure and would be inclined to accept Alex's response. But, then it should not have a problem with that disk 2, so without a chance to experiment, I don't know how else to respond. I think the next experiment I would be inclined to try, at least if there was nothing on that second disk (actually called disk 1 as in 0..n disks) that I needed, I would overwrite that MBR with zeros (from /dev/zero, so it has no MBR and no other boot type info and then slice and partition it and see what happens. You could just overwrite the MBR with dd and it shouldn't affext the rest of the disk, but that would make me really nervous if I had anything valuable on it. But if you are unconcerned, try dd if=/dev/zero of=/dev/ad1 bs=512 count=1 ad1 being the second disk or da1 if it is SCSI of SAS That should wipe the MBR on it. Then, the previous MBR might not try to look at that second disk, or if Alex is completely correct, then it will and not find it and get another error. So, experiment. jerry The only was that I found to rectify this was use a boot from a USB device with boot0 on it: USB: F5 - disk1 Disk1: F1 - boots FreeBSD And now, subsequent reboots work fine: Disk1: F1 - boots FresBSD I hope the above is a little more clear now. Regards, Chris ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: spammers harvesting emaill address from this list
On Fri, 24 Aug 2007 at 02:22 +0200, [EMAIL PROTECTED] confabulated: I don't want to hijack this, erm, thread, but I get loads of spam (my mail goes through a hosting provider, I (post-)filter locally) and a significant part of it is loaded with technical terms, even FreeBSD specific. I suppose it's meant to confuse filters. Do other folks get this too? I see on average, five(5) spam messages on the freebsd-questions list every other week. --- _|_ (_| | ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: spammers harvesting emaill address from this list
On Thu, 23 Aug 2007 at 20:19 -0500, [EMAIL PROTECTED] confabulated: On Aug 23, 2007, at 7:45 PMAug 23, 2007, Pollywog wrote: On Friday 24 August 2007 00:22:12 Danny Pansters wrote: I don't want to hijack this, erm, thread, but I get loads of spam (my mail goes through a hosting provider, I (post-)filter locally) and a significant part of it is loaded with technical terms, even FreeBSD specific. I suppose it's meant to confuse filters. Do other folks get this too? I get a lot of that. Ditto. I get more PDF files lately and a T-O-N of the ASCII blue-pill ads... If only my old dot-matrix was looking for a good time... I hardly *EVER* see any PDF spam. Also, I can't remember the last time I saw one of those blue-pill spams. --- _|_ (_| | ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: /var or /usr for data?
On Wed, Aug 22, 2007 at 09:51:35PM -0500, Andrew Gould wrote: On 8/22/07, Brad Waite [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: It would appear that the proper allocation of filesystems on FreeBSD is to put all data in /usr. I'm used to this and have been doing it for years. However, there's a few issues that keep coming up. A lot of the ports use /var for data dirs. MySQL, Qmail, dspam are a few that I've had issues with. Is there a canonical place to put data files on a modern FreeBSD server? Figuring out the sizes for each partition is an exercise in frustration when I don't know how big /var or /usr are going to grow. For now, I've changed the default config files for MySQL and dspam to use /usr/local for data dirs, but is this the right thing to do? I used to put everything on /, but that created problems when I couldn't fsck the single large partition and I had to boot from CD to fix things. That's an issue when the server's not in the same state. A Solaris associate of mine is of the opinion that /usr should be able to be mounted RO for security purposes. If /var was the default for all add-ons and data, I could see that, but that wouldn't work the ways things are now. I usually move the data directories (/usr/home, /usr/local/pgsql, /var/db/mysql, etc) to a separate, hard drive mounted at /data and create symbolic links back at the default locations. If you run out of space, you can move the data to a larger hard drive and either adjust the links or have the new drive mount at /data (or wherever you choose). Check out man hier for some information on how FreeBSD wants to use the directory structure. Generally /usr and those under it contain utilities and /var stores data that can change a lot. jerry I hope this helps. Andrew ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: /var or /usr for data?
On 22/08/07, Andrew Gould [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On 8/22/07, Brad Waite [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: It would appear that the proper allocation of filesystems on FreeBSD is to put all data in /usr. I'm used to this and have been doing it for years. However, there's a few issues that keep coming up. A lot of the ports use /var for data dirs. MySQL, Qmail, dspam are a few that I've had issues with. Is there a canonical place to put data files on a modern FreeBSD server? Figuring out the sizes for each partition is an exercise in frustration when I don't know how big /var or /usr are going to grow. For now, I've changed the default config files for MySQL and dspam to use /usr/local for data dirs, but is this the right thing to do? I used to put everything on /, but that created problems when I couldn't fsck the single large partition and I had to boot from CD to fix things. That's an issue when the server's not in the same state. A Solaris associate of mine is of the opinion that /usr should be able to be mounted RO for security purposes. If /var was the default for all add-ons and data, I could see that, but that wouldn't work the ways things are now. I usually move the data directories (/usr/home, /usr/local/pgsql, /var/db/mysql, etc) to a separate, hard drive mounted at /data and create symbolic links back at the default locations. If you run out of space, you can move the data to a larger hard drive and either adjust the links or have the new drive mount at /data (or wherever you choose). I tend to support the notion of a filesystem seperate from /usr or /var, as if the program goes wild for tequila you won't be stuffing up a filesystem that you need to run the operating system. Quotas, and other such notions might suffice, but why bother on an essentially single- purpose system? -- -- ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Test on FreeBSD site
Aloha, How long does it take for a test to be accepted or rejected on the FreeBSD test mail box? Is three minutes normal for a test to pop up? I had some FreeBSD 7 config issues and this nearly caused me to think I hadn't cleared the problem because it took quite a while to pop up. Mahalo ~Al Plant - Honolulu, Hawaii - Phone: 808-284-2740 + http://hawaiidakine.com + http://freebsdinfo.org + [EMAIL PROTECTED] + + http://internetohana.org - Supporting - FreeBSD 6.* - 7.* + All that's really worth doing is what we do for others.- Lewis Carrol ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
perl configuration question
Hi, I'm trying to install WebGUI on a FreeBSD system for my church. WebGUI uses PERL for its operation. The program has a test environment perl script that it tries to run to make sure the environment can run WebGUI. On a couple of the perl modules it tries to install, it bails saying that make is no good. I'm guessing this is because perl is expecting GNU make not BSD make, and since it's looks for /usr/bin/make, I'm sure it's getting the wrong version. I'm pretty much a perl neophyte, having written only one perl script in my life and that was so pitifully little that it really wasn't worthy of being called a script; I do not know how to fix this. How does one fix the configuration of perl (if this is even the problem, I'm going to try and see if this is something WebGUI is trying to use). Andy ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: spammers harvesting emaill address from this list
On Thu, 23 Aug 2007 16:19:06 -0700
Gary Kline [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
Would it
be possible to filter on both the ^Subject: A friend has sent you
a Greeting card! as well as the body? HTML or plaintext? As
soon as I see one (usually different) spam I know there well be
several other similar or identical messages. How difficult would
it be to flag spam on you sent greeting card, for example?
Plus the hundreds of variations on Are you enough of a man?
and the ones for some kind of pills? Or home loans at 5.1%!!!
(*mumble*)
Hi Gary et al,
rather than filtering on one by one basis, why not just setup your mail server
to do the whole job for you, using spamassassin (or your other anti-spam
software), with dynamic filters ( like razor and DCC (i think it's called) ). I
have (cheking...) about 7 *active* email address in my mail client, subscribed
to many mailing lists (12 of those @freebsd.org). Some of those email addresses
are used in contact details of many domain registrations.
All of them behind similarly configured servers. I have all the spam tagged
and moved to Trash on sight. Out of all the email I receive (which usually is
several hundred / day), I may have to manually delete 10 spam , uncaught emails
(all up). I haven't so far found out about a false positive in several years
of using this setup.
I may be lucky enough that I have a couple of
Mbps of bandwidth @ home to handle my email load, but none of the tools I use
are commercial, and they are VERY well documented.
BTW, that ratio is far smaller than the amount of tree-based spam I get on my
home mailbox each day.
I also have a catch-all email address to see what comes my way - i see higher
number of uncaught spam there (which then goes to feed my Bayes filters), so i
doubt that blaming @freebsd.org servers has anything to do with receiving more
spam.
In summary, the trick as always is to properly use the tools at hand.
regards,
B
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Re: Gnome FreeBSD
Michael S wrote: Good day all, I decided to add GUI to my GUI-less FreeBSD machine. I am considering installing Gnome, which I haven't used for long while and the last time was on Linux anyway. The reason is that most of my favorite applications use gtk libraries, like Firefox, GAIM (can't get used to the new name),wxPython and others. In short I wanted to avoid 2 huge sets of libraries (gtk and qt) by not installing KDE. I wanted to know how Gnome feels on FreeBSD, is it polished enough? Are there crashes? Any caveats at all? Thanks in advance, Michael ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] You may want to look at XFCE which many of the FreeBSD people use as a GUI. Lean and efective. -- ~Al Plant - Honolulu, Hawaii - Phone: 808-284-2740 + http://hawaiidakine.com + http://freebsdinfo.org + [EMAIL PROTECTED] + + http://internetohana.org - Supporting - FreeBSD 6.* - 7.* + All that's really worth doing is what we do for others.- Lewis Carrol ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
