Re: Any reason to keep OS 9.2.2 if not used 6 mos?

2009-01-07 Thread Jonas Lopez

There is the question of the required OS9 drivers for X to load. Also, OS9 is 
so small, it is smaller than a lot of picture and music storage.

JML


--- On Tue, 1/6/09, JIM RAPER jazpe...@shawneelink.net wrote:

 From: JIM RAPER jazpe...@shawneelink.net
 Subject: Any reason to keep OS 9.2.2 if not used 6 mos?
 To: g3-5-list@googlegroups.com
 Date: Tuesday, January 6, 2009, 9:45 PM
 Hi,
 
 I haven't used OS 9.2.2 for at least 6 months. Is there
 any real reason to
 keep it on my machine? My apps and files that I use
 regularly are written
 for the OS X system. I have OS X 10.2.8 on a separate
 drive. I have been
 very careful to put only OS X stuff on my machine. I would
 like to clean the
 HD with 9.2.2 off and reformat and use it for picture and
 music storage. Is
 there any reason I shouldn't? Any operating system
 problems that might
 arise?
 
 Jim
 
 

  

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Re: Any reason to keep OS 9.2.2 if not used 6 mos?

2009-01-07 Thread insightinmind

On Jan 7, 2009, at 12:45 AM, JIM RAPER wrote:

 Hi,

 I haven't used OS 9.2.2 for at least 6 months. Is there any real  
 reason to keep it on my machine? My apps and files that I use  
 regularly are written for the OS X system. I have OS X 10.2.8 on a  
 separate drive. I have been very careful to put only OS X stuff on  
 my machine. I would like to clean the HD with 9.2.2 off and  
 reformat and use it for picture and music storage. Is there any  
 reason I shouldn't? Any operating system problems that might arise?

 Jim


Depending on model Mac, you might need to Startup using the OS 9  
partition on occasion ... should something go funky with the OS X one.

People are surviving with only OS X ... AFAIK, its not used with  
Leopard onward.

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Re: Can I do This?

2009-01-07 Thread Dennis Myhand

Edward O'Morrow wrote:
 
 You can wake up every morning to  
 Sonny and Cher, just like Groundhog Day.
 
 Ed O
 
 

Oh God...Please, kill me now!

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Re: Any reason to keep OS 9.2.2 if not used 6 mos?

2009-01-07 Thread dc

Make sure your firmware is updated before you abandon OS 9; most
firmware updates are done with OS 9. What model Mac? If it is a beige
G3 and you want to run 10.3 or 10.4 you will need OS 9 to boot with
XPostFacto. Otherwise, it sounds like you don't need it. I kept an
inactive OS 9 drive for several years, finally removed it, and haven't
missed it since. I replaced it with a larger, newer drive for data
storage but I kept OS 9 on the old drive, stored safely in case I ever
had a old file or program that needed it. It's still sitting untouched
in the closet.

On Jan 7, 12:45 am, JIM RAPER jazpe...@shawneelink.net wrote:
 Hi,

 I haven't used OS 9.2.2 for at least 6 months. Is there any real reason to
 keep it on my machine? My apps and files that I use regularly are written
 for the OS X system. I have OS X 10.2.8 on a separate drive. I have been
 very careful to put only OS X stuff on my machine. I would like to clean the
 HD with 9.2.2 off and reformat and use it for picture and music storage. Is
 there any reason I shouldn't? Any operating system problems that might
 arise?

 Jim
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Re: Any reason to keep OS 9.2.2 if not used 6 mos?

2009-01-07 Thread Hunter Fuller

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Huh? I don't think OS X requires anything from 9.

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 There is the question of the required OS9 drivers for X to load. Also, OS9 is 
 so small, it is smaller than a lot of picture and music storage.

 JML


 --- On Tue, 1/6/09, JIM RAPER jazpe...@shawneelink.net wrote:

 From: JIM RAPER jazpe...@shawneelink.net
 Subject: Any reason to keep OS 9.2.2 if not used 6 mos?
 To: g3-5-list@googlegroups.com
 Date: Tuesday, January 6, 2009, 9:45 PM
 Hi,

 I haven't used OS 9.2.2 for at least 6 months. Is there
 any real reason to
 keep it on my machine? My apps and files that I use
 regularly are written
 for the OS X system. I have OS X 10.2.8 on a separate
 drive. I have been
 very careful to put only OS X stuff on my machine. I would
 like to clean the
 HD with 9.2.2 off and reformat and use it for picture and
 music storage. Is
 there any reason I shouldn't? Any operating system
 problems that might
 arise?

 Jim





 




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Re: Where do I learn about long lasting cdr's or dvdr's ????

2009-01-07 Thread Sam Macomber


On Jan 7, 2009, at 2:33 AM, Charles Lenington wrote:


 Wallace Adrian D'Alessio wrote:
 On Sun, Jan 4, 2009 at 9:29 PM, aussieshepsrock
 ilovaussiesh...@yahoo.com wrote:

 HiYa Wallace,
  Wikipedia was my first stop and while the entries I found were
 info


 snip---


 Actually the tape formats in use 10 to 20 years ago can be found
 cheaply. Along with used tapes. they still work. However some of the
 drives may require SCSI.  A stable place in an attic might suffice  
 for
 storag
 Uhhh doesn't heat damage cd/dvds? Most attics get hot in the summer.
 Maybe a sturdy container in the bottom of an interior closet or top
 shelf in a basement would be better.

 By the way does anyone have any info on freezing cd/dvds?
 Of course common sense in bringing to room temp before using would  
 be wise.


Basements, around here any how, tend to have humidity issues and most  
attics get very hot in the summer and cold in the winter(both of which  
I've addressed in my house but I think that is not very typical) .  I  
have my disks stored on a book shelf in the house, (one with doors to  
keep my toddler out of it) 

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Re: Where do I learn.... becomes archiving files and images- the future

2009-01-07 Thread Sam Macomber


On Jan 6, 2009, at 10:38 PM, aussieshepsrock wrote:


 Hello All! Original Poster Here.  Looks like I've kicked up a diverse
 conversation here. I think I've gleaned a great deal of thoughts from
 what's been discussed and I'll check on the NIST info soon. I want to
 comment on the RAW image file discussions. It occurs to me that the
 proper way to think of a camera's RAW file is to consider it a 'piece
 of undeveloped film'. The conversion and manipulation of a RAW file
 into a TIFF or JPEG is incredibly analagous to the astonishing ways
 Film can be manipulated to change the outcome of it's development into
 a finished Slide or Negative. Let along the changes one can introduce
 when taking that slide or negative to the print stage. I personally
 would NEVER consider an Undeveloped Piece Of Film to be ARCHIVAL.
 Currently, I don't see how RAW in it's current technological status
 can be considered ARCHIVAL. There is to much proprietary, licensed,
 and secret(?) tied up in how Nikon, Canon, Hasselblad, etc have things
 structured. Maybe ADOBE can give DNG to the Library Of Congress as a
 repository of profiles and processes and such. How are all these
 zillions of important images be stored for posterity let alone
 people's family snapshots and memories???

 Richard



I should note I was just talking about digital camera files being best  
in RAW format...In your situation, TIFF is certanly the way to  
go.  Since most consumer or even prosumer scanners and software  
already interpolate the raw sensor data into TIFF format (there are  
some that generate RAW type file, though the cost of such machines is  
quite high)   So converting those TIFF images into DNG would be a waste.

If you can, scan and create a 16bit/pixel TIFF.

-sam

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Re: Any reason to keep OS 9.2.2 if not used 6 mos?

2009-01-07 Thread Bruce Johnson


On Jan 6, 2009, at 10:58 PM, Jonas Lopez wrote:


 There is the question of the required OS9 drivers for X to load.

WTF?? OS X doesn't require OS 9 in any way, shape or form. Perhaps you  
mean the required drivers for OS 9 to load?


 Also, OS9 is so small, it is smaller than a lot of picture and music  
 storage.


You can also just burn the OS9 folder to a CD and copy it back if you  
ever need it.


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Re: Where do I learn.... becomes archiving files and images- the future

2009-01-07 Thread Bruce Johnson


On Jan 7, 2009, at 7:30 AM, Sam Macomber wrote:

 Since most consumer or even prosumer scanners and software
 already interpolate the raw sensor data into TIFF format (there are
 some that generate RAW type file, though the cost of such machines is
 quite high)

ViewScan will save the raw CCD output. 
http://www.hamrick.com/vuescan/html/vuesc14.htm#topic11 
  This works with any scanner VueScan supports which is a rather  
gargantuan list.

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Re: Where do I learn.... becomes archiving files and images- the future

2009-01-07 Thread Bruce Johnson


On Jan 6, 2009, at 7:36 PM, Vic wrote:

 PDF, JPG and other formats, while they might be de facto standards,
 are still proprietary formats,

PDF is an open ISO standard, no longer controlled by Adobe; although  
Adobe PDF's can have proprietary parts, the pdf created by, say  
printing to PDF in OS X is not.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/PDF/A

JPEG is also an ISO standard, and open source implementations exist.

http://www.jpeg.org/jpeg/index.html

Probably the largest and most important contribution however was the  
work of the Independent JPEG Group (IJG), and Tom Lane in particular.   
Their Open Source software implementation, as well as being one of the  
major Open Source packages was key to the success of the JPEG standard  
and was incorporated by many companies into a variety of products such  
as image editors and Internet browsers.

TIFF is recommended as the best, not because it's an open standard,  
but because it's about the only widely used lossless image standard.  
JPEG is lossy.

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Re: Where do I learn.... becomes archiving files and images- the future

2009-01-07 Thread Sam Macomber


On Jan 7, 2009, at 10:34 AM, Bruce Johnson wrote:



 On Jan 7, 2009, at 7:30 AM, Sam Macomber wrote:

 Since most consumer or even prosumer scanners and software
 already interpolate the raw sensor data into TIFF format (there are
 some that generate RAW type file, though the cost of such machines is
 quite high)

 ViewScan will save the raw CCD output. 
 http://www.hamrick.com/vuescan/html/vuesc14.htm#topic11
 This works with any scanner VueScan supports which is a rather
 gargantuan list.

ah, sweet!only ones I'd seen in the past were things like the  
imacon flextight, drum scanners, etc.  last time I bought a scanner  
was 7 years ago though :) (Epson that still serves what little use I  
have for it quite well) 

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Re: Help: My New 23 ACD fails to turn on!

2009-01-07 Thread Charles Davis

ISTR a problem with early PCI Macs and making all 'power' connections  
to the ADC card.
Is the card original. or have you put in an 'upgrade'?

Chuck D.

On Jan 6, 2009, at 9:51 PM, ScottTheRobot wrote:


 Nothing. No lights, the USB ports don't work. And the computer does
 not recognize that anything is connected. (when i connect from remote
 desktop or a second monitor)
 I am thinking now that it is the main power board. When i hold the
 flashlight to it as suggested by Kris, there is no image.

 Scott

 On Jan 6, 1:09 pm, dorayme dora...@optusnet.com.au wrote:
 Date: Mon, Jan 5 2009 9:28 pm
 From: ScottTheRobot

 I bought a beautiful 23 ACD (an older acrylic model) on Ebay and it
 arrived today. IT DOESNT WORK! I bought it AS-IS...

 If you have any tips as to what could be the problem with this, drop
 me a line.

 Details:
 When i plug it in to my MX2, and start my computer, it starts.

 What starts? Does the monitor power up and lights come on and you get
 any desktop or login screen for a while?



 It looks so good on my desk, so i would hate to see it go.

 !

 --
 dorayme

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Re: Where do I learn about long lasting cdr's or dvdr's ????

2009-01-07 Thread Charles Davis


On Jan 7, 2009, at 2:25 AM, Charles Lenington wrote:


 Dan wrote:
 At 10:13 AM -0800 1/5/2009, aussieshepsrock wrote:

 I wanted to 'expand' on how I'm handling this family photo archive
 project.  :-)

 [snip - lots of details]


 snip more details...
 Burned media stores data as pits in the substraight, under the
 outer plastic coating.  Over time, oxygen leeches through the
 plastic, and forms rust (oxide), which fill the pits, creating read
 errors.

 So cd/dvds should be stored in a vacuum or airtight container say
 zip lock bags squeezing out as much air as possible, then in a plastic
 (food) storage container? Or use one of the vacuum pack devices on the
 market. You could even try using the spray plastic for electrical
 connections to try and seal the container.

 Charles

You evidently missed the Vacuum leads to 'outgasing' of the  
plastics comment.

Chuck D.

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Re: Where do I learn about long lasting cdr's or dvdr's ????

2009-01-07 Thread Charles Davis


On Jan 7, 2009, at 2:33 AM, Charles Lenington wrote:


 Wallace Adrian D'Alessio wrote:
 On Sun, Jan 4, 2009 at 9:29 PM, aussieshepsrock
 ilovaussiesh...@yahoo.com wrote:

 HiYa Wallace,
   Wikipedia was my first stop and while the entries I found were
 info


 snip---


 Actually the tape formats in use 10 to 20 years ago can be found
 cheaply. Along with used tapes. they still work. However some of the
 drives may require SCSI.  A stable place in an attic might suffice  
 for
 storag

I believe this comment (storage) is in reference to the before  
mentioned 10 - 20 year old TAPE equipment. [Of course High Temp  
storage isn't really desirable for Tapes either.]

Chuck D.

 Uhhh doesn't heat damage cd/dvds? Most attics get hot in the summer.
 Maybe a sturdy container in the bottom of an interior closet or top
 shelf in a basement would be better.

 By the way does anyone have any info on freezing cd/dvds?
 Of course common sense in bringing to room temp before using would  
 be wise.

 snip rest


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Delete all future emails!

2009-01-07 Thread gifutiger

Greetings Everyone ( + )!( + )

I have (I think) installed an Apple eMail add-on of some kind because
occasionally, while in eMail the following message appears.

Delete all future emails from this sender or in this thread?

With three buttons, Cancel Sender Thread

My question is, Does anyone know what eMail application add-on is
causing this?
I want to remove the offending application.


Best regards,

Harry
San Jose, CA
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Time Machine Failing

2009-01-07 Thread Wilton Shaw
Hello,
Yesterday  today whenever I go to my computer, I have a note on the  
screen saying my latest backup had failed. I don't know when the  
latest backup was successful and I don't know why it won't work  
properly.
I have an eMac, using OS 10.5.6.
Thanks

Wilton

Wilton Shaw
whs...@verizon.net




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Re: Where do I learn about long lasting cdr's or dvdr's ????

2009-01-07 Thread Dan

At 1:33 AM -0600 1/7/2009, Charles Lenington wrote:
doesn't heat damage cd/dvds?

yes.  Even an afternoon sitting in a car can destroy them.

does anyone have any info on freezing cd/dvds?

The plastics become brittle then oxygen and moisture leech in easily.

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Re: Where do I learn.... becomes archiving files and images- the future

2009-01-07 Thread Dan

At 8:36 AM -0700 1/7/2009, Bruce Johnson wrote:

JPEG is also an ISO standard, and open source implementations exist.

But apparently it's not a fully free public standard?  You have to 
pay the licensing fee for JPEG2000.

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Re: Where do I learn about long lasting cdr's or dvdr's ????

2009-01-07 Thread Dan

At 1:25 AM -0600 1/7/2009, Charles Lenington wrote:
Dan wrote:
   Burned media stores data as pits in the substraight, under the
  outer plastic coating.  Over time, oxygen leeches through the
  plastic, and forms rust (oxide), which fill the pits, creating read
   errors.

So cd/dvds should be stored in a vacuum or airtight container

I doubt us mere mortals could afford an airtight container that is 
truly airtight - that maintains the *perfect* inert (nitrogen) 
atmosphere.  And as someone else commented, a vacuum would dry out / 
destroy the plastics.

Really, about the best you can do is what the industry 
recommends... Store the discs upright in plastic jewel cases in a 
cool (not cold) low-humidity low/no light environment (aka, a drawer 
or cabinet).

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Re: iPod migration, new computer

2009-01-07 Thread Dana Collins

On 1/6/09 8:45 AM, Bob Whiton of m...@rswhiton.com sent

 
 Expecting the new iMac soon, I've searched the kb and not found the
 answer. Should I be expecting to have to reset/erase the iPod to the
 new iTunes or does migration assistant allow the iPod to be used on
 the new computer without reset/erase?
 
 No need to erase your iPod.  I'm on my fourth Mac with my 2G iPod,
 with no resets.  Migration Assistant should move your iTunes library
 with no problem, or you can copy from your iPod.
 
 Bob
(quote)
 or you can copy from your iPod.
(end quote)

Really? How, without using the iPod as a straight external HD?
Very interested.
Thank you,
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Re: Time Machine Failing

2009-01-07 Thread Dan

At 12:24 PM -0500 1/7/2009, Wilton Shaw wrote:
Yesterday  today whenever I go to my computer, I have a note on the 
screen saying my latest backup had failed. I don't know when the 
latest backup was successful and I don't know why it won't work 
properly.
I have an eMac, using OS 10.5.6.

Check your system log.  It will contain the details.

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Re: Any reason to keep OS 9.2.2 if not used 6 mos?

2009-01-07 Thread Doug McNutt

At 23:45 -0600 1/6/09, JIM RAPER wrote:
I haven't used OS 9.2.2 for at least 6 months. Is there any real 
reason to keep it on my machine? My apps and files that I use 
regularly are written for the OS X system. I have OS X 10.2.8 on a 
separate drive. I have been very careful to put only OS X stuff on my 
machine. I would like to clean the HD with 9.2.2 off and reformat and 
use it for picture and music storage. Is there any reason I 
shouldn't? Any operating system problems that might arise?

By my left shoulder is an SE/30 an acquaintance just brought by. He 
knows not how to use it but wants some information on its disk left 
there by a relative a few years ago.

When I turned on the SE/30 it sparked with enough energy to light up 
the room. (The picture tube had a cracked evacuation tip in the 
center of the tube socket.)

This 8500 running OS 9.1 worked fine to read the disk and I have the data.

So:   I haven't used OS 9.2 on my G4 since I upgraded to 10.3.1. But 
I do use OS 9.1 a lot and a bunch of old data needs it.
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Re: Time Machine Failing

2009-01-07 Thread nestamicky


Wilton Shaw wrote:
 Hello,
 Yesterday  today whenever I go to my computer, I have a note on the 
 screen saying my latest backup had failed. I don't know when the 
 latest backup was successful and I don't know why it won't work properly.
 I have an eMac, using OS 10.5.6.
 Thanks

 Wilton

 Wilton Shaw
 whs...@verizon.net mailto:whs...@verizon.net


 And while you're in there, you may also find out why it failed. Or, 
 post the output here.

 

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Re: Any reason to keep OS 9.2.2 if not used 6 mos?

2009-01-07 Thread nestamicky


Bruce Johnson wrote:
 On Jan 6, 2009, at 10:58 PM, Jonas Lopez wrote:

   
 There is the question of the required OS9 drivers for X to load.
 

 WTF?? OS X doesn't require OS 9 in any way, shape or form. Perhaps you  
 mean the required drivers for OS 9 to load?
   
Oh Oh, someone's got Bruce's blood boiling. I agree with the last 
poster. Find a small HD install 9 on it and keep it. You never know. 
This is what I did after upgrading the firmware on my Pismo. Actually, 
it was Bruce who suggested. Now that 6GB is sitting some place, with OS 
9 on it...if I ever need it.

   
 Also, OS9 is so small, it is smaller than a lot of picture and music  
 storage.
 


 You can also just burn the OS9 folder to a CD and copy it back if you  
 ever need it.


   

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Re: Any reason to keep OS 9.2.2 if not used 6 mos?

2009-01-07 Thread Steve R

At 8:23 AM -0700 1/7/09, Bruce Johnson posted:
  On Jan 6, 2009, at 10:58 PM, Jonas Lopez wrote:


  There is the question of the required OS9 drivers for X to load.

  WTF?? OS X doesn't require OS 9 in any way, shape or form. Perhaps you
  mean the required drivers for OS 9 to load?


To be fair, I took the response to be in line with any necessary 
firmware updates that must be run in OS 9 such as the firmware update 
needed when installing CPU upgrades during hardware updates. I was 
kicking myself for having reformatted and reinstalled only OS X on 
the G3 BW waiting for the arrival of a G4 CPU.

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How to remove scratches?

2009-01-07 Thread Jeffrey Engle

any way to get rid of these scratches on my eMac front bezel? could I  
take wet sandpaper to it? any ideas?





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Re: Where do I learn.... becomes archiving files and images- the future

2009-01-07 Thread Bruce Johnson


On Jan 7, 2009, at 11:12 AM, Dan wrote:


 At 8:36 AM -0700 1/7/2009, Bruce Johnson wrote:

 JPEG is also an ISO standard, and open source implementations exist.

 But apparently it's not a fully free public standard?  You have to
 pay the licensing fee for JPEG2000.

JPEG != JPEG2000

Per the JPEG group JPEG2K is licensed, but the license is available  
free of charge.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/JPEG_2000
http://www.jpeg.org in particular this page http://tinyurl.com/ 
ypsh8e which talks both about licensing and patent issues.

Also this is an official statement by the JPEG on JPEG 2000 part 1  
(the basic format):

Part 1 also includes guidelines and examples, a bibliography of  
technical references, and a list of companies from whom patent  
statements have been received by ISO. JPEG 2000 was developed with the  
intention that Part 1 could be implemented without the payment of  
licence fees or royalties, and a number of patent holders have waived  
their rights toward this end. However, the JPEG committee cannot make  
a formal guarantee, and it remains the responsibility of the  
implementer to ensure that no patents are infringed.

Basically the techniques used may have patents. Bilski, however,  
really makes these sorts of patents iffy, at best. http://tinyurl.com/6rygvc 
 

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Re: Where do I learn about long lasting cdr's or dvdr's ????

2009-01-07 Thread Steve R

At 1:19 PM -0500 1/7/09, Dan posted:
  I doubt us mere mortals could afford an airtight container that is
  truly airtight - that maintains the *perfect* inert (nitrogen)
  atmosphere.  And as someone else commented, a vacuum would dry out /
  destroy the plastics.

  Really, about the best you can do is what the industry
  recommends... Store the discs upright in plastic jewel cases in a
  cool (not cold) low-humidity low/no light environment (aka, a drawer
  or cabinet).


Or check out the river rafting supply companies for new ammo boxes. 
The tight seals on the new boxes create enough of a 'vacuum' that you 
can hear the air being sucked into the box when it's first opened, 
regardless of the ambient temperatures. From personal experience I 
know the boxes are sealed tight enough to keep air and water out 
while the boxes take their own little side trip through Lava Falls.

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Re: Where do I learn about long lasting cdr's or dvdr's ????

2009-01-07 Thread Clark Martin

Steve R wrote:

 Or check out the river rafting supply companies for new ammo boxes. 
 The tight seals on the new boxes create enough of a 'vacuum' that you 
 can hear the air being sucked into the box when it's first opened, 
 regardless of the ambient temperatures. From personal experience I 
 know the boxes are sealed tight enough to keep air and water out 
 while the boxes take their own little side trip through Lava Falls.

You can get ammo cans from lots of places including local surplus stores.

But those ammo cans are often coated with a film of oil that protects 
the ammo.  Make sure you clean it out thoroughly.  And I would drop in 
some desiccant packs.

It doesn't create a vacuum, it just seals in the air.  Air moving in OR 
out when you break the seal is due to differences in air pressure 
between where it was sealed and where the seal was opened.



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Re: iPod migration, new computer

2009-01-07 Thread Bruce Johnson


On Jan 7, 2009, at 11:46 AM, Dana Collins wrote:

 (quote)
 or you can copy from your iPod.
 (end quote)

 Really? How, without using the iPod as a straight external HD?
 Very interested.

Ever since the first iPod, you've been able to set aside a certain  
amount of the disk space on it as external storage. You set that right  
in iTunes, and I suppose you could, if you wanted, reformat an iPod to  
be all disk drive and no iPod.

Vastly cheaper to just get an external hdd, though...

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Re: Where do I learn about long lasting cdr's or dvdr's ????

2009-01-07 Thread Bruce Johnson


On Jan 7, 2009, at 12:27 PM, Steve R wrote:

 Or check out the river rafting supply companies for new ammo boxes.
 The tight seals on the new boxes create enough of a 'vacuum' that you
 can hear the air being sucked into the box when it's first opened,
 regardless of the ambient temperatures. From personal experience I
 know the boxes are sealed tight enough to keep air and water out
 while the boxes take their own little side trip through Lava Falls.


I could have SWORN I posted a link to Otterbox yesterday, for $30  
you'll get a solid box able to handle a big pile of 
materialhttp://www.otterbox.com/waterproof-cases/otterbox-3500/ 
 


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Re: Where do I learn about long lasting cdr's or dvdr's ????

2009-01-07 Thread Steve R

At 1:16 PM -0700 1/7/09, Bruce Johnson posted:
  I could have SWORN I posted a link to Otterbox yesterday, for $30
  you'll get a solid box able to handle a big pile of 
materialhttp://www.otterbox.com/waterproof-cases/otterbox-3500/


You probably did... I was too busy watching my new 24 iMac defrost ;-)

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Re: Where do I learn.... becomes archiving files and images- the future

2009-01-07 Thread pdimage

On 6/1/09 16:35, Sam Macomber s...@macomber.com wrote:

 RAW format is all the information captured by the camera's sensor in
 an unaltered state(though sometimes lossless compression is used,
 depends on the camera). To generate a TIFF that sensor data has to be
 altered and when you do so information is lost.

Raw data from the sensor is in the form of electron counts from each
pixel of the array. Each pixel is further divided into cells - usually four
- which are filtered to be sensitive to the red, green and blue areas of the
visual spectrum - one red, two green and one blue in the vast majority of
digi capture - though Kodak tried one red, one blue and six green in the
early days
http://www.epi-centre.com/reports/9306cs.html

Conversion to tiff or any other format on import into an image editor
will not affect the raw data unless the original is destroyed after
conversion. Unfortunately sensor data is not the only form of image data
called 'raw' - some proprietary systems use the term 'raw' very loosely for
uncalibrated binary data - hence the compression.

For archiving images I use the Fuji CD-R printable Inkjet Black UV Pro
which is recommended for the purpose

http://www.fujifilm.co.uk/recmedia/site/product/product.asp?pid=145

not easy to get hold of and not cheap but a pod of one hundred goes a
very long way.

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Re: Where do I learn about long lasting cdr's or dvdr's ????

2009-01-07 Thread John Callahan


On Jan 7, 2009, at 3:20 PM, Steve R wrote:


 At 1:16 PM -0700 1/7/09, Bruce Johnson posted:
  I could have SWORN I posted a link to Otterbox yesterday, for $30
  you'll get a solid box able to handle a big pile of
 materialhttp://www.otterbox.com/waterproof-cases/otterbox-3500/


 You probably did... I was too busy watching my new 24 iMac  
 defrost ;-)

 Steve R

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Re: Help: My New 23 ACD fails to turn on!

2009-01-07 Thread dorayme

 Date: Wed, Jan 7 2009 8:42 am
 From: Charles Davis


 ISTR a problem with early PCI Macs and making all 'power' connections
 to the ADC card.

OP said even the USB connection did not work, I think. That is  
usually a direct connection nothing to do with any cards... but come  
to think of it, are these usb's in these screens powered? And if the  
power is off, would that make a powered hub completely useless? Which  
points to the monitor not getting power. Could be something simple? I  
always liked it in my old car when everything did not work in the  
electrics, I knew I would find a simple thing wrong (like someone  
stole the battery, the bastards)

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Re: Where do I learn about long lasting cdr's or dvdr's ????

2009-01-07 Thread Bruce Johnson


On Jan 7, 2009, at 1:32 PM, John Callahan wrote:


 On Jan 7, 2009, at 3:20 PM, Steve R wrote:


 At 1:16 PM -0700 1/7/09, Bruce Johnson posted:
 I could have SWORN I posted a link to Otterbox yesterday, for $30
 you'll get a solid box able to handle a big pile of
 materialhttp://www.otterbox.com/waterproof-cases/otterbox-3500/


 You probably did... I was too busy watching my new 24 iMac
 defrost ;-)

 Steve R

 -
 Did you check the dimensions? Unless they make larger versions it
 would be difficult to store anything other than film or slides in the
 suggested box. FWIW



Damn, you can get larger boxes, but apparently not from them anymore.  
A friend had one, I thought it was by them, which was large enough for  
a sizable camera/lens collection.

There are other manufacturers , here's one http://www.uwkinetics.com/ 
 , any dive shop or whitewater shop should steer you correctly.

Another large pile of sources: http://www.opticsplanet.net/dry-cases.html 
 




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Re: Help: My New 23 ACD fails to turn on!

2009-01-07 Thread Bruce Johnson


On Jan 7, 2009, at 1:33 PM, dorayme wrote:


 Date: Wed, Jan 7 2009 8:42 am
 From: Charles Davis


 ISTR a problem with early PCI Macs and making all 'power' connections
 to the ADC card.

 OP said even the USB connection did not work, I think. That is
 usually a direct connection nothing to do with any cards... but come
 to think of it, are these usb's in these screens powered? And if the
 power is off, would that make a powered hub completely useless? Which
 points to the monitor not getting power. Could be something simple? I
 always liked it in my old car when everything did not work in the
 electrics, I knew I would find a simple thing wrong (like someone
 stole the battery, the bastards)

The USB in the ADC monitors is a powered hub. A USB device with it's  
own power should work through an unpowered hub, but I agree it really  
sounds like no power is getting to the monitor at all.

If you're lucky it's a munged cable, if not it's a munged video card  
or display.


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Applemail Lost Drafts

2009-01-07 Thread Anne Keller-Smith

Hiyas ~

I'm on AppleMail 2.1.3 and I notice that suddenly I can't find any  
drafts. I was working on one the other day and then looked in Drafts,  
and there's nothing there. The Drafts folder clearly indicates (2)  
are in there, but the window shows nothing.

Anybody experienced this?

I did look in Library-Mail-Mailboxes but there's no Drafts.mbox in  
there either. Many other mailboxes, but not that one.



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Re: I am thinking about a processor upgrade for my G4/400 AGP

2009-01-07 Thread Anne Keller-Smith

Also, think about the time it takes to figure out which computer to  
get, drag such from the store, drive to the seller's home, or wait  
for it to be shipped, move all your files, get used to it, etc., etc.

I am upgrading my G4 just because I like it. I am keeping it for a  
couple more years. I did spent $250 on a new processor for it altho  
this may not actually be smart in terms of dollars and sense. If I  
get rid of it, I also have to either spend time selling it for  
something or find a home for it. I cannot bear to throw it away, the  
G4 Quicksilver case is one of the most beautiful Apple ever made.

I know the poster has decided to go with G5. He also has the slower  
450Mhz processor there. But for all of us thinking about when to  
upgrade, and what to upgrade to - the time factor and love factor is  
what has governed my decision to keep my beloved dinosaur.

I also don't need to watch movies on it or edit video - it's fine for  
what I do.

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896 MB RAM, 40 GB hard drive, OS 10.4.11

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Re: iPod migration, new computer

2009-01-07 Thread Dana Collins

On 1/7/09 2:48 PM, Bruce Johnson of john...@pharmacy.arizona.edu sent

 
 
 On Jan 7, 2009, at 11:46 AM, Dana Collins wrote:
 
 (quote)
 or you can copy from your iPod.
 (end quote)
 
 Really? How, without using the iPod as a straight external HD?
 Very interested.
 
 Ever since the first iPod, you've been able to set aside a certain
 amount of the disk space on it as external storage. You set that right
 in iTunes, and I suppose you could, if you wanted, reformat an iPod to
 be all disk drive and no iPod.
 
 Vastly cheaper to just get an external hdd, though...

Hi Bruce,
Agreed, much cheaper. I have known about this feature since my first
purchase; the original responder made it sound (or perhaps it's the way I
read it) like one could do this from within iTunes, which would be a nifty
alternative to the all or nothing approach to iTunes' syncing method.
Best regards,
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Re: iPod migration, new computer

2009-01-07 Thread Dana Collins




On 1/7/09 4:59 PM, Dana Collins of dlcatft...@verizon.net sent

 
 On 1/7/09 2:48 PM, Bruce Johnson of john...@pharmacy.arizona.edu sent
 

 
 Ever since the first iPod, etc
 Hi Bruce,
 Agreed, much cheaper. I have known about this feature since my first
 purchase; etc...

My first iPod purchase that is! I think my first purchase was a bag of
Twizzlers at Ray's Variety 5¢ and 10¢ down the block!

-Dana



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Re: Time Machine Failing

2009-01-07 Thread Wilton Shaw

On Jan 7, 2009, at 1:38 PM, Dan wrote:


 At 12:24 PM -0500 1/7/2009, Wilton Shaw wrote:
 Yesterday  today whenever I go to my computer, I have a note on the
 screen saying my latest backup had failed. I don't know when the
 latest backup was successful and I don't know why it won't work
 properly.
 I have an eMac, using OS 10.5.6.

 Check your system log.  It will contain the details.

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Pardon my ignorance, but I can't find anything called System Log.  
Where is it?

Wilton
 

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Re: Where do I learn.... becomes archiving files and images- the future

2009-01-07 Thread aussieshepsrock

Original Poster here..

This jpeg vs tiff question is pretty important to me. My personal
experience with jpegs is that the inherent nature of how the
compression it uses works, very little quantities of data loss equate
with the Functional Loss of the image. My limited knowledge of the
'nature' of TIFF is that (to some extent) it is more resistant to
losing the entire image if data describing specific pixels is lost or
compromised. Does anyone know if this is correct?

A further question I have is that the TIFF 'standards' site I was
looking at indicates that a previously 'patented'  compression option
inside of TIFF -I believe the LZW option- was transfered to the public
domain -or something similar- so it is considered an open standard
that Archive and Library folks and companies are more comfortable
using it. My question is whether the LossLess Internal File
Compression option makes the individual files be more at risk in the
presence of 'partial' file loss?

:-)

Richard





On Jan 7, 2:18 pm, Doug McNutt dougl...@macnauchtan.com wrote:
 At 13:12 -0500 1/7/09, Dan wrote:

 At 8:36 AM -0700 1/7/2009, Bruce Johnson wrote:

 JPEG is also an ISO standard, and open source implementations exist.

 But apparently it's not a fully free public standard?  You have to
 pay the licensing fee for JPEG2000.

 JPEG 2000 has an option for 12 bit resolution which might be
 important to purists who are into perfect rendition of  real film.

 DICOM, the open format for medical graphics is also available though
 it is intrinsically monochrome - like an X-ray. Color information can
 be included by making linked red, blue, and green files. The medical
 folks are slowly moving toward JPEG 2000. I should hope that they
 also care about images at least a lifetime old.

 And while I'm at it, RAW formats are uncompressed representations of
 pixel values. Specifying the format is little more than providing the
 bit-length of a pixel, (8, 12, 24, 32,. . .) and the number of pixels
 that are in one complete scan line. A file of that sort would be far
 easier to figure out, next century on Mars, than the discrete 16x16
 two-dimensional cosine transforms of a JPEG.

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Re: Applemail Lost Drafts

2009-01-07 Thread Ken Daggett

On 7 Jan 2009, at 13:23:16 PST, Anne Keller-Smith wrote:

 Hiyas ~

 I'm on AppleMail 2.1.3 and I notice that suddenly I can't find any
 drafts. I was working on one the other day and then looked in Drafts,
 and there's nothing there. The Drafts folder clearly indicates (2)
 are in there, but the window shows nothing.

 Anybody experienced this?

 I did look in Library-Mail-Mailboxes but there's no Drafts.mbox in
 there either. Many other mailboxes, but not that one.

 Anne Keller Smith
---
Maybe this will help:

Rebuilding a mailbox
In some cases, you might need to rebuild a mailbox to update the list  
of messages in the mailbox. For example, if email messages appear to  
be missing or garbled, or if you can't find all relevant messages by  
searching.

To rebuild a selected mailbox, choose Mailbox  Rebuild.

For IMAP accounts, locally cached messages and attachments are  
discarded and the messages and attachments are downloaded again from  
the server to your hard disk. Your mailbox appears empty until the  
download is complete. This action is recommended for fast Internet  
connections only.

Ken

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Re: I am thinking about a processor upgrade for my G4/400 AGP

2009-01-07 Thread Sam Macomber


 Also, think about the time it takes to figure out which computer to
 get, drag such from the store, drive to the seller's home, or wait
 for it to be shipped, move all your files, get used to it, etc., etc.

 I am upgrading my G4 just because I like it. I am keeping it for a
 couple more years. I did spent $250 on a new processor for it altho
 this may not actually be smart in terms of dollars and sense. If I
 get rid of it, I also have to either spend time selling it for
 something or find a home for it. I cannot bear to throw it away, the
 G4 Quicksilver case is one of the most beautiful Apple ever made.

 I know the poster has decided to go with G5. He also has the slower
 450Mhz processor there. But for all of us thinking about when to
 upgrade, and what to upgrade to - the time factor and love factor is
 what has governed my decision to keep my beloved dinosaur.

 I also don't need to watch movies on it or edit video - it's fine for
 what I do.



Or in my case there's not much that can be upgraded :(I only  
recently gave up and sold my BW G3   and I'm nursing along 7 G4s at  
work, I now have 6 'parts' machines which I'll be yanking apart  in a  
week or so to save the good spares and dump the rest(cases) to take  
them off our taxes...  with a few headed to charity.

-sam

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Re: Where do I learn.... becomes archiving files and images- the future

2009-01-07 Thread Bruce Johnson


On Jan 7, 2009, at 4:00 PM, aussieshepsrock wrote:

 A further question I have is that the TIFF 'standards' site I was
 looking at indicates that a previously 'patented'  compression option
 inside of TIFF -I believe the LZW option- was transfered to the public
 domain -or something similar-

The patent on LZW compression simply expired, so it's now freely usable.

http://www.unisys.com/about__unisys/lzw/

GIFS can run free now...

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Re: Delete all future emails!

2009-01-07 Thread Charles Davis


On Jan 7, 2009, at 12:23 PM, gifutiger wrote:


 Greetings Everyone ( + )!( + )

 I have (I think) installed an Apple eMail add-on of some kind because
 occasionally, while in eMail the following message appears.

 Delete all future emails from this sender or in this thread?

 With three buttons, Cancel Sender Thread

 My question is, Does anyone know what eMail application add-on is
 causing this?
 I want to remove the offending application.


 Best regards,

 Harry
 San Jose, CA
Is this by chance happening after marking E-Mail from that sender as  
'Junk' ?

Chuck D.

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Re: Time Machine Failing

2009-01-07 Thread insightinmind

On Jan 7, 2009, at 4:57 PM, Wilton Shaw wrote:


 On Jan 7, 2009, at 1:38 PM, Dan wrote:


 At 12:24 PM -0500 1/7/2009, Wilton Shaw wrote:
 Yesterday  today whenever I go to my computer, I have a note on the
 screen saying my latest backup had failed. I don't know when the
 latest backup was successful and I don't know why it won't work
 properly.
 I have an eMac, using OS 10.5.6.

 Check your system log.  It will contain the details.

 - Dan.
 --  
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   Pardon my ignorance, but I can't find anything called System  
 Log. Where is it?



In Tiger 10.4.11:

Apple  About This Mac  More Info  Logs  system.log

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Re: Time Machine Failing

2009-01-07 Thread insightinmind

On Jan 7, 2009, at 7:09 PM, insightinmind wrote:


  Pardon my ignorance, but I can't find anything called System  
 Log. Where is it?



 In Tiger 10.4.11:


 Apple  About This Mac  More Info  Software  Logs  system.log


Slight correction (adding Software in the sequence, in case its not  
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Re: Help: My New 23 ACD fails to turn on!

2009-01-07 Thread Tom

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Re: iPod migration, new computer

2009-01-07 Thread Bob Whiton

   or you can copy from your iPod.
(end quote)

Really? How, without using the iPod as a straight external HD?
Very interested.
Thank you,
Dana

The Apple method uses the iPod as an external HD 
http://support.apple.com/kb/HT1329, but there are third party 
utilities that bypass this procedure.  When I moved my iTunes library 
from my iBook to a G4 tower,  I tried Senuti (which didn't move 
playlists and ratings and such), and Ollies iPod Extractor (which was 
slow but got all of the playlists, ratings, and play counts).  Check 
on Versiontracker for more choices.

Migration assistant is still the easiest way, though.

Bob

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Re: Time Machine Failing

2009-01-07 Thread Dan

At 4:57 PM -0500 1/7/2009, Wilton Shaw wrote:
On Jan 7, 2009, at 1:38 PM, Dan wrote:
At 12:24 PM -0500 1/7/2009, Wilton Shaw wrote:
Yesterday  today whenever I go to my computer, I have a note on the
screen saying my latest backup had failed. I don't know when the
latest backup was successful and I don't know why it won't work
properly.

I have an eMac, using OS 10.5.6.

Check your system log.  It will contain the details.

Pardon my ignorance, but I can't find anything called System Log. 
Where is it?

All logs are available thru the Console app, 
/Applications/Utilities/Console.app

...Select Show Log List from Console's View menu.  As you can see 
there are a lot of logs!  system.log contains system-wide events - 
things like the Time Machine failures.  console.log contains your 
user events.  Everything there is r/o (read-only), so peruse at will 
- you cannot hurt anything.  If the log listed won't open then you'll 
need to run console from an admin account.

- Dan.
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Setting up External Firewire Drive for CCC

2009-01-07 Thread Al Poulin

I want to use a 1TB external Firewire hard drive initialized in Apple  
Partition Map to make bootable clones of a PPC G4 iBook and two or  
three Intel Macs.  Each source machine will have its own partition on  
the FW drive.  I plan to use Incremental backup for File level  
copying.

To restore files, CCC documentation says in several places:  Note  
that you cannot select the boot drive as the target, you will need to  
boot from another drive if you need to restore directly to your boot  
drive.   Does this mean that I simply boot from the clone on the  
partition of the FW drive and launch CCC on that partition, or must I  
boot from a third volume?

Is there any utility in having a separate, bootable universal volume  
on my FW drive with its own copy of CCC?  Note Apple's Article  
HT2595.  If so, then when Snow Leopard comes to my Intel Macs, that  
volume is not longer universal, right?

I foresee moving the FW drive from Mac to Mac and room to room to keep  
bootable clone backups up to date.  Looking at CCC documentation for  
backing up to another Macintosh on your network, it appears that  
this method cannot maintain a bootable clone, since the context deals  
with selected data to a folder.  Correct?

Thank you,
Al Poulin

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Pioneer DVD-RW question on G4 DA

2009-01-07 Thread Stro

Greetings,
  I am trying to burn a CD-RW on my G4 DA.  I insert a Memorex High
Speed CD-RW and the drive closes for a moment, then opens back up.  I
can burn CD-R on the drive with no problems.  Is the problem the CD-RW
or the drive?

Thanks,
Lee

Specs on the drive:

Manufacturer:   PIONEER
  Model:PIONEER DVD-RW DVR-103
  Revision: 1.90
  Serial Number:
  Drive Type:   CD-RW/DVD-RW
  Disc Burning: Apple Supported/Shipped
  Removable Media:  Yes
  Detachable Drive: No
  Protocol: ATAPI
  Unit Number:  0
  Socket Type:  Internal


Specs on the G4:

  Machine Model:Power Mac G4
  CPU Type: PowerPC G4  (11.3)
  Number Of CPUs:   2
  CPU Speed:533 MHz
  L2 Cache (per CPU):   1 MB
  Memory:   1.25 GB
  Bus Speed:133 MHz
  Boot ROM Version: 4.1.4f1

I am using system 10.3.9
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Re: Where do I learn.... becomes archiving files and images- the future

2009-01-07 Thread Ralph Green

Howdy,

On Wed, 2009-01-07 at 08:36 -0700, Bruce Johnson wrote:
 
 On Jan 6, 2009, at 7:36 PM, Vic wrote:
 
  PDF, JPG and other formats, while they might be de facto standards,
  are still proprietary formats,
 
 PDF is an open ISO standard, no longer controlled by Adobe; although  
 Adobe PDF's can have proprietary parts, the pdf created by, say  
 printing to PDF in OS X is not.
 
 http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/PDF/A
 This is partially true.  Read the wikipedia page for some details.
There is an ISO standard for PDF files.  Not all pdf writers will write
that format.  I don't know if the current OSX will.  I am not updated to
the current version.  My OSX system does not write ISO compliant files.

 
 JPEG is also an ISO standard, and open source implementations exist.
 
 http://www.jpeg.org/jpeg/index.html
 JPEG is an open standard, but not every program that writes jpegs will
write fully compliant jpeg files.  If long term archival of files is
important to you, check that the program you use is a good
implementation.  Jpeg is likely to be supported for many years, but you
have to decide if the images are good enough quality.

...
 TIFF is recommended as the best, not because it's an open standard,  
 but because it's about the only widely used lossless image standard.  
 JPEG is lossy.
 
 There are lots of varieties of TIFF files.  It and PNG are the most
common lossless formats available.  I prefer PNG for most of my usage,
because the compression algorithm in TIFF files is patent encumbered,
which limits some program's abilities to handle TIFF files with
compression.  For simplicity, I can see how it might be a better choice
for some people to stay with TIFF files.  Before you embark on a major
archival effort using TIFF files, find out what type of TIFF files you
are going to write and be consistent so your entire library will always
be readable by the same program.
Good luck,
Ralph



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Re: Where do I learn.... becomes archiving files and images- the future

2009-01-07 Thread aussieshepsrock

HiYa Pete,
   thanks for the tip on the 'Black' Fuji media. My only 'techie'
relative mentioned these to me over the weekend. He's been a mac
disciple since the begining having bought like the third one sold here
in Michigan way back when. He's a programmer, engineer, optics,
physics, etc etc etc expert currently doing his interdisciplinary
thing managing multiple projects at an aerospace company. He used some
of these Discs to send pictures and videos to his daughter across the
country, but during a visit carrying his shiny new MacBook Pro he
discovered their 'blackness' tripped up his drive. He said it was a
laser disperion problem - the discs read perfectly in his wife's older
ibook and his daughters pc's but choked in his MacBook.
  As incredibly wonderful these UV and Light defending discs are, they
might be a little to exotically engineered for my particular
application. I also intend for these discs to be in light tight
storage anyway and the benefits derived from the 'engineered
sunscreen' the black fuji's aren't really needed.

Has anyone heard of  Taiyo Yuden  the japanese cdr dvdr media
manufacturer?

I am bumping into postings, pages, and vendors, hailing their discs as
being the definite first choice for burning with. The postings are
religiously devoted and the ancedotes widely expressed by buyers and
audiophiles and such emphatically describe clean, consistent, and
accurate burned discs. They also describe consistently NOT burning
coasters when using the taiyo yuden media.

Richard


On Jan 7, 3:27 pm, pdimage pdim...@btinternet.com wrote:
 On 6/1/09 16:35, Sam Macomber s...@macomber.com wrote:

  RAW format is all the information captured by the camera's sensor in
  an unaltered state(though sometimes lossless compression is used,
  depends on the camera). To generate a TIFF that sensor data has to be
  altered and when you do so information is lost.

     Raw data from the sensor is in the form of electron counts from each
 pixel of the array. Each pixel is further divided into cells - usually four
 - which are filtered to be sensitive to the red, green and blue areas of the
 visual spectrum - one red, two green and one blue in the vast majority of
 digi capture - though Kodak tried one red, one blue and six green in the
 early days
     http://www.epi-centre.com/reports/9306cs.html

     Conversion to tiff or any other format on import into an image editor
 will not affect the raw data unless the original is destroyed after
 conversion. Unfortunately sensor data is not the only form of image data
 called 'raw' - some proprietary systems use the term 'raw' very loosely for
 uncalibrated binary data - hence the compression.

     For archiving images I use the Fuji CD-R printable Inkjet Black UV Pro
 which is recommended for the purpose

     http://www.fujifilm.co.uk/recmedia/site/product/product.asp?pid=145

     not easy to get hold of and not cheap but a pod of one hundred goes a
 very long way.

 Pete
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Re: Where do I learn.... becomes archiving files and images- the future

2009-01-07 Thread Ralph Green

On Wed, 2009-01-07 at 21:13 -0800, aussieshepsrock wrote:

 Has anyone heard of  Taiyo Yuden  the japanese cdr dvdr media
 manufacturer?

 Taiyo Yuden is generally considered to be the best producer of media
out there.  They are rarely the cheapest.  At one time, Taiyo Yuden
manufactured the premium Fuji disks.  I don't know if they still do.
The key to the stability of the Taiyo Yuden disk seems to be their
consistency in their dye formulation.  It is usually the fading dyes of
CDR and DVDR disk that cause them to become unreadable.
 If you want a good deal on Taiyo Yuden, look in the stores for Fuji
disks manufactured in Japan.  Those all seem to be Taiyo Yuden disks.
Skip the ones made in other countries.
Good luck,
Ralph




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Re: Where do I learn about long lasting cdr's or dvdr's ????

2009-01-07 Thread Ralph Green

On Wed, 2009-01-07 at 13:16 -0700, Bruce Johnson wrote:
 I could have SWORN I posted a link to Otterbox yesterday, for $30  
 The Otterbox looks nice.  I have used Pelican cases, which look
similar.  Have you seen both and how do they compare?

 And back to tiff files for a moment.  I referred to the variety of TIFF
formats out there.  I did some looking and I would suggest TIFF 6.0
Specification with CCITT Group 4 compression, if you are going to use
TIFF.  CENDI has used that as one of their archival formats for a few
years.  You can read a paper on the issue here:
 http://www.cendi.gov/publications/imgexch2.html

Good luck,
Ralph




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