Re: Mozilla Firefox
I just downloaded Camino. Seems to work ok (I've been using Firefox 3.5.7 or iCab). I am not getting any music to play on www.myspace.com though. Any suggestions? When I switched to Camino, I had to re-install some itemslike Flash Player. I got everything working by making a comparison with Firefox to see what settings and programs I needed. One thing to try other than the above, is doing a RESET CAMINO from the menu bar. AS you are early in your experience with Camino, you have nothing to lose. Hope this helps. Larry -- You received this message because you are a member of G-Group, a group for those using G3, G4, and G5 desktop Macs - with a particular focus on Power Macs. The list FAQ is at http://lowendmac.com/lists/g-list.shtml and our netiquette guide is at http://www.lowendmac.com/lists/netiquette.shtml To post to this group, send email to g3-5-list@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/g3-5-list
Re: OT Disk Catalog SW
I tried several back in 2006, including some bundled apps that were free to use, and in the end chose to buy CDFinder. I have been pleased with it, continue to use it, and recommend it. I have my CDs, Tapes, disks and LPs catalogued with DataBase softwareAppleWorks. Works fine. Larry -- You received this message because you are a member of G-Group, a group for those using G3, G4, and G5 desktop Macs - with a particular focus on Power Macs. The list FAQ is at http://lowendmac.com/lists/g-list.shtml and our netiquette guide is at http://www.lowendmac.com/lists/netiquette.shtml To post to this group, send email to g3-5-list@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/g3-5-list
Re: OT Disk Catalog SW
On Feb 10, 2010, at 4:09 PM, M Christol wrote: Anybody have any experience with Disk Cataloging software ? I am looking at CDFinder, a Mac application for cataloging removable disks ( more). http://www.cdfinder.de/ looks ok I guess the personal Cumulus is dead. thanks I've been using DiskTracker and find it to be dependable and easy to use. I recently took a look at DiskCatalogMaker which comes with Toast. You can purchase DiskCatalogMaker standalone for $30 or upgrade from the Toast RE edition for $20. User interface is more Mac like than DiskTracker. One feature I like about DCM over DiskTracker is the ability to catalog folders DiskTracker only catalogs volumes. http://diskcatalogmaker.com/ Dale -- You received this message because you are a member of G-Group, a group for those using G3, G4, and G5 desktop Macs - with a particular focus on Power Macs. The list FAQ is at http://lowendmac.com/lists/g-list.shtml and our netiquette guide is at http://www.lowendmac.com/lists/netiquette.shtml To post to this group, send email to g3-5-list@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/g3-5-list
Re: SeaMonkey 2.02
I like Opera over here for my windows and linux boxes. I use Safari on my mac because its fast on 400MHz. On Feb 11, 2010, at 12:26 AM, Michael G.M. wrote: Been using SeaMonkey since 1.x (A couple years probably) as my main Mac browser and e-mail client. Yes, I have upgraded to 2.02 and it's pretty cool. It doesn't have the Edit/Fill in forms function anymore, but I can live without it. Version 1.1.18 was and is extremely buggy.- I'm glad we've moved on. Anyway, I think it's highly under-rated for the Mac and it's quite stable, however, I sometimes get a little off track with all the settings. The plug-ins manager is a very welcome addition and upgrade. I guess Opera is about the same, but I just can't get into it and the community seems like a cult. (Sorry, it just seems that way with all the photo uploading and community stuff to lock you in.) I think the world of web browsers would be a lonely place without SeaMonkey. Like I've said before about SM: It's gone the extra mile when other browsers would not. Of course, you'll still need Safari and/or Firefox for some sites :P Oh well. -Mike On Feb 10, 6:05 pm, Joan Duncan jn...@q.com wrote: Does anyone here use SeaMonkey? If so, have you upgraded to 2.02? I tried at 2.01 and was appalled by my experience (can't really remember what didn't work now). How do you find it? Mac G4, dual 367, 2GB DDR -- Joan Duncan, ASID Interior Architecture Design (o) 575.751.3030 (c) 575.770.4252 (f) 575.751.3434www.acreatrix.com -- You received this message because you are a member of G-Group, a group for those using G3, G4, and G5 desktop Macs - with a particular focus on Power Macs. The list FAQ is at http://lowendmac.com/lists/g-list.shtml and our netiquette guide is at http://www.lowendmac.com/lists/netiquette.shtml To post to this group, send email to g3-5-list@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/g3-5-list
Re: low density RAM?
On 10/2/10 21:30, Geke gevangaste...@googlemail.com wrote: Thanks a lot! That link from Pete is precious; I can mention it to the company so they can check for themselves... (Note that it runs over two lines that should be connected before pasting into the browser.) Geke I wondered about the long two line link before I posted it but I'm not too certain about the conventions for links in plain text mailings. I thought - and we all know what thought did - a long link which makes more than one line is ok if unhyphenated during the paste and then enclosed by . When I received my posted message I tried the link and it worked fine - so is it just the hyphenation that breaks long links? I have tiny url in my tabs bar but tend not to use it if there is no hyphen at the line break Ebay links are notoriously long. There are also other reviews in the ebay review section which cover the low/high density ram problem - maybe a dozen or so Pete -- You received this message because you are a member of G-Group, a group for those using G3, G4, and G5 desktop Macs - with a particular focus on Power Macs. The list FAQ is at http://lowendmac.com/lists/g-list.shtml and our netiquette guide is at http://www.lowendmac.com/lists/netiquette.shtml To post to this group, send email to g3-5-list@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/g3-5-list
Re: SeaMonkey 2.02
On Feb 11, 8:38 am, Kasey Smith kasm...@gmail.com wrote: I like Opera over here for my windows and linux boxes. I use Safari on my mac because its fast on 400MHz. Opera is a nice browser; I'll admit that. And it is free. (Was it not free at one time or was that another browser?) I honestly can't see myself paying for a browser. I never have, even as cool as iCab is, just haven't ever paid for one. Donations, maybe sometime. Anyway, SM also has handy easy access security features I use all the time from the Tools/Clear Private Data... fom the menu bar. Excellent tool! Composer, I don't use half as much as I'd like - Excellent tool! Password Manager: Superb! Confirm Quit options: Out-of-this-world- perfection! I honestly doubt I'll ever have another favorite browser besides SM. SM is actually a enterprise/professional level web browser, so I guess I shouldn't complain about too many settings, only ask for more instead!!! ;) As the saying goes: Your millage may vary. -Mike -- You received this message because you are a member of G-Group, a group for those using G3, G4, and G5 desktop Macs - with a particular focus on Power Macs. The list FAQ is at http://lowendmac.com/lists/g-list.shtml and our netiquette guide is at http://www.lowendmac.com/lists/netiquette.shtml To post to this group, send email to g3-5-list@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/g3-5-list
Re: Leaving the group
On Feb 11, 2010, at 8:55 AM, wtob...@aol.com wrote: Sorry to bother the group with this one ... again...but I don't want to unsubscribe, JUST LIMIT the number of emails I get per day...someone had pointed out that there is a way to simply turn down or turn off the emails but not unsubscribe. Go to http://groups.google.com and log in using the email address you get the list on. You can then manage your access to the groups, subscribe, unsubscribe, switch it from email to web-only or individual emails to digest, etc. -- Bruce Johnson University of Arizona College of Pharmacy Information Technology Group Institutions do not have opinions, merely customs -- You received this message because you are a member of G-Group, a group for those using G3, G4, and G5 desktop Macs - with a particular focus on Power Macs. The list FAQ is at http://lowendmac.com/lists/g-list.shtml and our netiquette guide is at http://www.lowendmac.com/lists/netiquette.shtml To post to this group, send email to g3-5-list@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/g3-5-list
Re: Leaving the group
Thank you very much! Appreciate it! Wayne -- You received this message because you are a member of G-Group, a group for those using G3, G4, and G5 desktop Macs - with a particular focus on Power Macs. The list FAQ is at http://lowendmac.com/lists/g-list.shtml and our netiquette guide is at http://www.lowendmac.com/lists/netiquette.shtml To post to this group, send email to g3-5-list@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/g3-5-list
Re: SeaMonkey 2.02
On Feb 11, 2010, at 9:10 AM, Michael G.M. wrote: Composer, I don't use half as much as I'd like - Excellent tool! If you like it, check out KompoZer, which is based on the Mozilla Composer code, but extended considerably to a pretty powerful web authoring tool. http://kompozer.net/ -- Bruce Johnson University of Arizona College of Pharmacy Information Technology Group Institutions do not have opinions, merely customs -- You received this message because you are a member of G-Group, a group for those using G3, G4, and G5 desktop Macs - with a particular focus on Power Macs. The list FAQ is at http://lowendmac.com/lists/g-list.shtml and our netiquette guide is at http://www.lowendmac.com/lists/netiquette.shtml To post to this group, send email to g3-5-list@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/g3-5-list
Netscape Mozilla Firefox
Hello All, I have been using one version or another of Netscape since I got my first MAC (Performa 630CD) back in '95. Now that old horse is slowly fading away and slowing down. I have been getting acquainted with Firefox, but I would like to move my Netscape bookmarks over to Firefox. Does anyone know how I can accomplish this monumental task (for me). Thank you, Dan II -- You received this message because you are a member of G-Group, a group for those using G3, G4, and G5 desktop Macs - with a particular focus on Power Macs. The list FAQ is at http://lowendmac.com/lists/g-list.shtml and our netiquette guide is at http://www.lowendmac.com/lists/netiquette.shtml To post to this group, send email to g3-5-list@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/g3-5-list
Re: Netscape Mozilla Firefox
On Feb 11, 2010, at 11:47 AM, DAN A CURRIE wrote: Hello All, I have been using one version or another of Netscape since I got my first MAC (Performa 630CD) back in '95. Now that old horse is slowly fading away and slowing down. I have been getting acquainted with Firefox, but I would like to move my Netscape bookmarks over to Firefox. Does anyone know how I can accomplish this monumental task (for me). Just install Firefox. It'll find your Netscape bookmarks automagically. Alternatively you can export your bookmarks from Netscape, and then import them into Firefox; both programs use similar Bookmarks Management stuff (mainly because both programs are substantially the same...every version of Netscape post version 4.5 has been a rebranded and slightly tweaked version of Mozilla, aka Firefox...) -- Bruce Johnson University of Arizona College of Pharmacy Information Technology Group Institutions do not have opinions, merely customs -- You received this message because you are a member of G-Group, a group for those using G3, G4, and G5 desktop Macs - with a particular focus on Power Macs. The list FAQ is at http://lowendmac.com/lists/g-list.shtml and our netiquette guide is at http://www.lowendmac.com/lists/netiquette.shtml To post to this group, send email to g3-5-list@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/g3-5-list
Mac Mini G4 with double hard drive a possible solution?
Hi! I've just registered in this site to post a very interesting question. I've bought a PATA box to substitute my Mac Mini Superdrive with a new SATA hard drive. I put the box with my new WD Scorpio 500GB on it but the system didn't turn on, the screen remained gray.. After I tried with a Hitachi 80 GB and the system turned on but on Leopard I couldn't see the hard drive on my desktop and on disk utility neither. What can I do? Is there a possible solution? What do you think? Thanks from Italy! -- You received this message because you are a member of G-Group, a group for those using G3, G4, and G5 desktop Macs - with a particular focus on Power Macs. The list FAQ is at http://lowendmac.com/lists/g-list.shtml and our netiquette guide is at http://www.lowendmac.com/lists/netiquette.shtml To post to this group, send email to g3-5-list@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/g3-5-list
Re: Mac Mini G4 with double hard drive a possible solution?
I don't understand. The G4 Mini doesn't use SATA HDs, so how are you using an SATA HD? I'm thinking you're meaning you removed the Superdrive, and placed a 2nd PATA HD into the Mini, and now it won't boot? Have you reset the PRAM/NVRAM? Are the jumpers on the HDs correct? (have you tried both Master/Slave and Cable Select/Cable Select? BE CAREFUL, the G4 Mini is known to get hot and kill HDs because of too much heat. An over-clocked Mini with a 7,200 RPM HD can overheat quickly, so I'd imagine that two HDs may be asking for heat trouble? If the fan were ever to die, you'd probably ruin the HDs or the Mini. On Feb 11, 2010, at 12:20 PM, sniis wrote: Hi! I've just registered in this site to post a very interesting question. I've bought a PATA box to substitute my Mac Mini Superdrive with a new SATA hard drive. I put the box with my new WD Scorpio 500GB on it but the system didn't turn on, the screen remained gray.. After I tried with a Hitachi 80 GB and the system turned on but on Leopard I couldn't see the hard drive on my desktop and on disk utility neither. What can I do? Is there a possible solution? What do you think? Thanks from Italy! -- You received this message because you are a member of G-Group, a group for those using G3, G4, and G5 desktop Macs - with a particular focus on Power Macs. The list FAQ is at http://lowendmac.com/lists/g-list.shtml and our netiquette guide is at http://www.lowendmac.com/lists/netiquette.shtml To post to this group, send email to g3-5-list@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/g3-5-list
Re: SSD
That's what makes computers so much fun - the incredible amount of hairsplitting and detail-poking necessary to do what used to require just a pencil and paper. I suppose for that .01% of the population that knows that SSD used to use volatile RAM (and of course someone here will look that up and start another incredibly detailed thread about how that is only .7343% true), your post is wonderful and much more important than the real questions being asked in this thread - about finding SSD's that plug into IDE cables and PCI slots, for the purpose of retrofitting somewhat older computers (which I was under the delusion that this general topic was the whole reason for Lowendmac's existence.) But for someone trying to find such a device, it's just more confirmation that getting rid of computers would be so much better than trying to get a computer to work without an unlimited budget of time and money, and the ability to take any problems to the expensive shop down the street, and without a need to get any useful work done. -- You received this message because you are a member of G-Group, a group for those using G3, G4, and G5 desktop Macs - with a particular focus on Power Macs. The list FAQ is at http://lowendmac.com/lists/g-list.shtml and our netiquette guide is at http://www.lowendmac.com/lists/netiquette.shtml To post to this group, send email to g3-5-list@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/g3-5-list
2 macs-1 monitor?
Just a question here... and I believe that I'm right in saying that this will not work, but here goes my monitor has VGA DVI connections, can these be used to hook up 2 macs? and simply switch between the two via the monitor buttons on the front? Jeffrey Engle Kamiah, Idaho 83536 macgu...@gmail.com -- You received this message because you are a member of G-Group, a group for those using G3, G4, and G5 desktop Macs - with a particular focus on Power Macs. The list FAQ is at http://lowendmac.com/lists/g-list.shtml and our netiquette guide is at http://www.lowendmac.com/lists/netiquette.shtml To post to this group, send email to g3-5-list@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/g3-5-list
Re: 2 macs-1 monitor?
On Thu, Feb 11, 2010 at 1:47 PM, Jeffrey Engle macgu...@gmail.com wrote: Just a question here... and I believe that I'm right in saying that this will not work, but here goes my monitor has VGA DVI connections, can these be used to hook up 2 macs? and simply switch between the two via the monitor buttons on the front? It will work. I've done it with several monitors. My current 20 LCD has VGA and DVI. My PC is connected to VGA and the Mac to DVI. I press the input button and it switches to the other input. Works like a charm. -- You received this message because you are a member of G-Group, a group for those using G3, G4, and G5 desktop Macs - with a particular focus on Power Macs. The list FAQ is at http://lowendmac.com/lists/g-list.shtml and our netiquette guide is at http://www.lowendmac.com/lists/netiquette.shtml To post to this group, send email to g3-5-list@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/g3-5-list
Re: Mac Mini G4 with double hard drive a possible solution?
2010/2/11 Kris Tilford ktilfo...@cox.net I don't understand. The G4 Mini doesn't use SATA HDs, so how are you using an SATA HD? I'm thinking you're meaning you removed the Superdrive, and placed a 2nd PATA HD into the Mini, and now it won't boot? Have you reset the PRAM/NVRAM? Are the jumpers on the HDs correct? (have you tried both Master/Slave and Cable Select/Cable Select? BE CAREFUL, the G4 Mini is known to get hot and kill HDs because of too much heat. An over-clocked Mini with a 7,200 RPM HD can overheat quickly, so I'd imagine that two HDs may be asking for heat trouble? If the fan were ever to die, you'd probably ruin the HDs or the Mini. Yes, I removed my superdrive and I put a 2nd PATA hard drive bay. It's a strange thing because, if I use a 500GB SATA hard drive the system doesn't boot, if I use a 80GB SATA hard drive the system boot instead, but it doesn't recognize any 2nd hdd. At the moment heat is not a problem, because I didn't rebuild the Mini :) Any ideas? Thanks Nicholas -- You received this message because you are a member of G-Group, a group for those using G3, G4, and G5 desktop Macs - with a particular focus on Power Macs. The list FAQ is at http://lowendmac.com/lists/g-list.shtml and our netiquette guide is at http://www.lowendmac.com/lists/netiquette.shtml To post to this group, send email to g3-5-list@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/g3-5-list
Re: Problem inst of 10.5 on G4 tower
On Feb 9, 1:31 pm, Jonas Lopez jonaslo...@yahoo.com wrote: Problem inst of 10.5 on this: Tower may be sawtooth G4 450 MHz box with AGP Graphics on a card. 12 Gb hd 470 Mb, Zip, fd, DVD/cd Drive, all are Apple branded. will not let me. Was there a rule about speed or a way around it? You might want to stick with 10.4, and even for Tiger you should have more RAM. I put 10.5 on a Sawtooth with a dual 500 MHz (from a gig-e) and 2 GB RAM and it crawled along very slowly Leopard ran acceptably on my Digital Audio G4, dual 533 MHz and 1.5 GB RAM. There's a reason Apple put a minimum speed requirement. -- You received this message because you are a member of G-Group, a group for those using G3, G4, and G5 desktop Macs - with a particular focus on Power Macs. The list FAQ is at http://lowendmac.com/lists/g-list.shtml and our netiquette guide is at http://www.lowendmac.com/lists/netiquette.shtml To post to this group, send email to g3-5-list@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/g3-5-list
PCI Extreme! still worth the trouble for a PCI-only Mac?
Hi! I have a G3 BW 350 MHz (Rev. A) running Mac OS X 10.4.11 Tiger. I found something about PCI Extreme! which apparently enables Quarz Extreme for PCI graphics cards like the one in my Yosemite: a ATi Rage 128. http://www.xlr8yourmac.com/osx/quartz_extreme_pci_mod.html Now I see that this hack will no longer work with Tiger 10.4.3 and newer. Well, I'm using 10.4.11 -- so it won't work? The author of PCI Extreme! writes at versiontracker.com (http://www.versiontracker.com/dyn/moreinfo/mac/16006) that it won't work in 10.4.3+ for _both_ AGP and PCI at the same time, thus further developement has stopped. But will it sill work with _only_ a PCI card involved? Is this recommended by anyone? Is there a gain in speed? Is there any advantage at all? I don't want to make my Mac OS X installation unusable by experimenting too much. The G3 serves me well at work, so I don't have the time to reinstall it all just because I make weird things with it. Thanks, Andreas aka Mac User #330250 -- You received this message because you are a member of G-Group, a group for those using G3, G4, and G5 desktop Macs - with a particular focus on Power Macs. The list FAQ is at http://lowendmac.com/lists/g-list.shtml and our netiquette guide is at http://www.lowendmac.com/lists/netiquette.shtml To post to this group, send email to g3-5-list@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/g3-5-list
Re: SSD
On Thu, Feb 11, 2010 at 8:43 PM, Ed Grey edwg...@gmail.com wrote: That's what makes computers so much fun - the incredible amount of hairsplitting and detail-poking necessary to do what used to require just a pencil and paper. I suppose for that .01% of the population that knows that SSD used to use volatile RAM (and of course someone here will look that up and start another incredibly detailed thread about how that is only .7343% true), your post is wonderful and much more important than the real questions being asked in this thread - about finding SSD's that plug into IDE cables and PCI slots, for the purpose of retrofitting somewhat older computers (which I was under the delusion that this general topic was the whole reason for Lowendmac's existence.) But for someone trying to find such a device, it's just more confirmation that getting rid of computers would be so much better than trying to get a computer to work without an unlimited budget of time and money, and the ability to take any problems to the expensive shop down the street, and without a need to get any useful work done. __ Whoa! careful with the stepping on of the toes there ! ;) Yeah, it has amazed me over the years that although we are all on LEM the Low End part has often been forgotten by those with lots of cash to throw at problems. Lots of cash ? No problem ! Which has often made me wonder why those who are quick to criticize those who must innovate Mac solutions need LEM at all. Car and bike magazines which started out aiming at junkyard craftsmanship show this same phenomenon. Yeah , we all like cool solutions and great running classic machinery. And finding a way to make a bargain priced windfall work in an old machine is cool. But Putting an SSD in a $ 10 computer is an anachronistic exercise at best. I am not against it and it may indeed work very well. But am I rich enough ? ? Perhaps many Low Enders have more money than they want to let on about ? -- Adrian D'Alessio aka; Fluxstringer fluxstrin...@gmail.com http://www.facebook.com/FluxStringer http://www.linkedin.com/in/fluxstreamcommunications http://flux-influx.blogspot.com/ http://fluxdreams.designbinder.com/ http://twitter.com/FluxStringer http://mog.com/FluxMuse -- You received this message because you are a member of G-Group, a group for those using G3, G4, and G5 desktop Macs - with a particular focus on Power Macs. The list FAQ is at http://lowendmac.com/lists/g-list.shtml and our netiquette guide is at http://www.lowendmac.com/lists/netiquette.shtml To post to this group, send email to g3-5-list@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/g3-5-list
Re: Mac Mini G4 with double hard drive a possible solution?
Unless the 2nd bay has some sort of PATA to SATA converter, there should be no way for a SATA drive to even be connected. Clearing that up would be a great help to the group. If I am correct about a PATA to SATA converter, then perhaps there is some incompatability between the drives, converter, and the Mini. Chance Nicholas Fantuzzi wrote: Yes, I removed my superdrive and I put a 2nd PATA hard drive bay. It's a strange thing because, if I use a 500GB SATA hard drive the system doesn't boot, if I use a 80GB SATA hard drive the system boot instead, but it doesn't recognize any 2nd hdd. At the moment heat is not a problem, because I didn't rebuild the Mini :) Any ideas? Thanks Nicholas -- You received this message because you are a member of G-Group, a group for those using G3, G4, and G5 desktop Macs - with a particular focus on Power Macs. The list FAQ is at http://lowendmac.com/lists/g-list.shtml and our netiquette guide is at http://www.lowendmac.com/lists/netiquette.shtml To post to this group, send email to g3-5-list@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/g3-5-list -- You received this message because you are a member of G-Group, a group for those using G3, G4, and G5 desktop Macs - with a particular focus on Power Macs. The list FAQ is at http://lowendmac.com/lists/g-list.shtml and our netiquette guide is at http://www.lowendmac.com/lists/netiquette.shtml To post to this group, send email to g3-5-list@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/g3-5-list
Re: 2 macs-1 monitor?
On Feb 11, 2010, at 2:49 PM, McGrude wrote: On Thu, Feb 11, 2010 at 1:47 PM, Jeffrey Engle macgu...@gmail.com wrote: Just a question here... and I believe that I'm right in saying that this will not work, but here goes my monitor has VGA DVI connections, can these be used to hook up 2 macs? and simply switch between the two via the monitor buttons on the front? It will work. I've done it with several monitors. My current 20 LCD has VGA and DVI. My PC is connected to VGA and the Mac to DVI. I press the input button and it switches to the other input. Works like a charm. I wonder if this is possible on a monitor without an input button... My 21 LCD has both inputs but no visible way to swap them, unless its automatic. Unfortunately i dont have a computer with DVI to test my theory... -- You received this message because you are a member of G-Group, a group for those using G3, G4, and G5 desktop Macs - with a particular focus on Power Macs. The list FAQ is at http://lowendmac.com/lists/g-list.shtml and our netiquette guide is at http://www.lowendmac.com/lists/netiquette.shtml To post to this group, send email to g3-5-list@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/g3-5-list
Re: 2 macs-1 monitor?
I wonder if this is possible on a monitor without an input button... My 21 LCD has both inputs but no visible way to swap them, unless its automatic. Unfortunately i dont have a computer with DVI to test my theory... Probably not. Is there an on screen display for monitor settings? Is there an input choice in there? -- You received this message because you are a member of G-Group, a group for those using G3, G4, and G5 desktop Macs - with a particular focus on Power Macs. The list FAQ is at http://lowendmac.com/lists/g-list.shtml and our netiquette guide is at http://www.lowendmac.com/lists/netiquette.shtml To post to this group, send email to g3-5-list@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/g3-5-list
Re: SeaMonkey 2.02
On Feb 11, 2010, at 9:19 AM, Bruce Johnson wrote: On Feb 11, 2010, at 9:10 AM, Michael G.M. wrote: Composer, I don't use half as much as I'd like - Excellent tool! If you like it, check out KompoZer, which is based on the Mozilla Composer code, but extended considerably to a pretty powerful web authoring tool. http://kompozer.net/ Hehe, i have KompoZer here. Also, iCab is only good on OS9 for me. Even then it always locks up when it tries to digest java... -- You received this message because you are a member of G-Group, a group for those using G3, G4, and G5 desktop Macs - with a particular focus on Power Macs. The list FAQ is at http://lowendmac.com/lists/g-list.shtml and our netiquette guide is at http://www.lowendmac.com/lists/netiquette.shtml To post to this group, send email to g3-5-list@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/g3-5-list
Re: 2 macs-1 monitor?
On Feb 11, 2010, at 3:50 PM, McGrude wrote: I wonder if this is possible on a monitor without an input button... My 21 LCD has both inputs but no visible way to swap them, unless its automatic. Unfortunately i dont have a computer with DVI to test my theory... Probably not. Is there an on screen display for monitor settings? Is there an input choice in there? I don't see one... The thing was about $150 and it has quite the nice color and contrast so at least I'm lucky there :D -- You received this message because you are a member of G-Group, a group for those using G3, G4, and G5 desktop Macs - with a particular focus on Power Macs. The list FAQ is at http://lowendmac.com/lists/g-list.shtml and our netiquette guide is at http://www.lowendmac.com/lists/netiquette.shtml To post to this group, send email to g3-5-list@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/g3-5-list
Re: 2 macs-1 monitor?
On Feb 11, 2010, at 2:47 PM, Jeffrey Engle wrote: Just a question here... and I believe that I'm right in saying that this will not work, but here goes my monitor has VGA DVI connections, can these be used to hook up 2 macs? and simply switch between the two via the monitor buttons on the front? Yes, with a caveat...some (mostly quite older) macs need to think they're connected to a monitor before they'll properly boot. -- Bruce Johnson University of Arizona College of Pharmacy Information Technology Group Institutions do not have opinions, merely customs -- You received this message because you are a member of G-Group, a group for those using G3, G4, and G5 desktop Macs - with a particular focus on Power Macs. The list FAQ is at http://lowendmac.com/lists/g-list.shtml and our netiquette guide is at http://www.lowendmac.com/lists/netiquette.shtml To post to this group, send email to g3-5-list@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/g3-5-list
Re: PCI Extreme! still worth the trouble for a PCI-only Mac?
On Feb 11, 2010, at 4:25 PM, Mac User #330250 wrote: Now I see that this hack will no longer work with Tiger 10.4.3 and newer. Well, I'm using 10.4.11 -- so it won't work? No, it works fine with 10.4.11. It didn't work ONLY with 10.4.3. After you use PCI Extreme you can check it using Quartz Extreme Check. It should also show up in System Profiler as supported. Another easy way to check is the screensaver Flurry which is smooth and beautiful if QE works, and slow and painful if it doesn't work. Is there a gain in speed? Depends upon what you're using. For non-QE things there is little change. For QE things the difference is giant. For example, Google Earth simply won't work without QE. Is there any advantage at all? Yes, and some are giant. Scrolling speed of large complex windows is one giant advantage. Without QE it will scroll jerky and slow; with QE it will scroll smooth and fast. I don't want to make my Mac OS X installation unusable by experimenting too much. The G3 serves me well at work, so I don't have the time to reinstall it all just because I make weird things with it. In my experience PCI Extreme doesn't ever cause problems that would require you to reinstall a System, or even not be able to boot. It either works or it doesn't. If it doesn't, it's more likely that you've done something wrong, or perhaps your video card doesn't have up-to-date firmware. The things to remember: 1) you can't mix non-QE video cards with QE cards. For example, no Rage Radeon in the same Mac at the same time. The thing you said earlier, about BOTH an AGP PCI together is also wrong, they work fine together as long as BOTH have QE enabled. If you DON'T use PCI Extreme to enable the PCI card, you lose the QE on the supported AGP card also. 2) remember on the BW Yikes to keep the video card in the special video PCI slot which has twice the bandwidth of the other PCI slots. On a normal PCI slot the best speed you can obtain is the equivalent of 1/2 AGP, but with the special 66MHz slot you can get 1xAGP speed which is fine for QE. 3) check that firmware on your video card first, and update before if necessary. -- You received this message because you are a member of G-Group, a group for those using G3, G4, and G5 desktop Macs - with a particular focus on Power Macs. The list FAQ is at http://lowendmac.com/lists/g-list.shtml and our netiquette guide is at http://www.lowendmac.com/lists/netiquette.shtml To post to this group, send email to g3-5-list@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/g3-5-list
Re: 2 macs-1 monitor?
On Feb 11, 2010, at 3:57 PM, Bruce Johnson wrote: On Feb 11, 2010, at 2:47 PM, Jeffrey Engle wrote: Just a question here... and I believe that I'm right in saying that this will not work, but here goes my monitor has VGA DVI connections, can these be used to hook up 2 macs? and simply switch between the two via the monitor buttons on the front? Yes, with a caveat...some (mostly quite older) macs need to think they're connected to a monitor before they'll properly boot. Not the PowerMac G3 BW. Can't speak for the beige ones as mine has a built in monitor. -- You received this message because you are a member of G-Group, a group for those using G3, G4, and G5 desktop Macs - with a particular focus on Power Macs. The list FAQ is at http://lowendmac.com/lists/g-list.shtml and our netiquette guide is at http://www.lowendmac.com/lists/netiquette.shtml To post to this group, send email to g3-5-list@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/g3-5-list
Re: 2 macs-1 monitor?
On 2/11/10 2:57 PM, Bruce Johnson wrote: On Feb 11, 2010, at 2:47 PM, Jeffrey Engle wrote: Just a question here... and I believe that I'm right in saying that this will not work, but here goes my monitor has VGA DVI connections, can these be used to hook up 2 macs? and simply switch between the two via the monitor buttons on the front? Yes, with a caveat...some (mostly quite older) macs need to think they're connected to a monitor before they'll properly boot. Shouldn't be a problem in this case as both computers will be connected to the monitor simultaneously. This isn't like a dumb KVM switch. The monitor would have to have both interfaces active independently as they are two different interfaces. The modern style KVM switches don't have this problem either, AFAIK they present the monitor info to each computer whether the monitor is switched to that computer or not. -- Clark Martin Redwood City, CA, USA Macintosh / Internet Consulting I'm a designated driver on the Information Super Highway -- You received this message because you are a member of G-Group, a group for those using G3, G4, and G5 desktop Macs - with a particular focus on Power Macs. The list FAQ is at http://lowendmac.com/lists/g-list.shtml and our netiquette guide is at http://www.lowendmac.com/lists/netiquette.shtml To post to this group, send email to g3-5-list@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/g3-5-list
Re: 2 macs-1 monitor?
Not real sure. I don¹t recall seeing an LCD that works that way... I have 5 different ones. You didn¹t mention what models the Macs were and what OS you¹re using. I¹m using screen sharing on my Intel iMac to control a G5 iMac, 3 G4 towers and a G4 laptop. Amanda On 2/11/10 1:47 PM, Jeffrey Engle macgu...@gmail.com wrote: Just a question here... and I believe that I'm right in saying that this will not work, but here goes my monitor has VGA DVI connections, can these be used to hook up 2 macs? and simply switch between the two via the monitor buttons on the front? Jeffrey Engle Kamiah, Idaho 83536 macgu...@gmail.com -- You received this message because you are a member of G-Group, a group for those using G3, G4, and G5 desktop Macs - with a particular focus on Power Macs. The list FAQ is at http://lowendmac.com/lists/g-list.shtml and our netiquette guide is at http://www.lowendmac.com/lists/netiquette.shtml To post to this group, send email to g3-5-list@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/g3-5-list
Re: Mac Mini G4 with double hard drive a possible solution?
On Feb 11, 2010, at 2:41 PM, Chance Reecher wrote: Unless the 2nd bay has some sort of PATA to SATA converter, there should be no way for a SATA drive to even be connected. Clearing that up would be a great help to the group. If I am correct about a PATA to SATA converter, then perhaps there is some incompatability between the drives, converter, and the Mini. Chance Nicholas Fantuzzi wrote: Yes, I removed my superdrive and I put a 2nd PATA hard drive bay. It's a strange thing because, if I use a 500GB SATA hard drive the system doesn't boot, if I use a 80GB SATA hard drive the system boot instead, but it doesn't recognize any 2nd hdd. At the moment heat is not a problem, because I didn't rebuild the Mini :) Any ideas? Thanks Nicholas -- You received this message because you are a member of G-Group, a group for those using G3, G4, and G5 desktop Macs - with a particular focus on Power Macs. The list FAQ is at http://lowendmac.com/lists/g-list.shtml and our netiquette guide is at http://www.lowendmac.com/lists/netiquette.shtml To post to this group, send email to g3-5-list@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/g3-5-list What model Mini do you have? Is it a PPC or Intel? Also what system are you booting? John Carmonne Yorba Linda USA -- You received this message because you are a member of G-Group, a group for those using G3, G4, and G5 desktop Macs - with a particular focus on Power Macs. The list FAQ is at http://lowendmac.com/lists/g-list.shtml and our netiquette guide is at http://www.lowendmac.com/lists/netiquette.shtml To post to this group, send email to g3-5-list@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/g3-5-list
Re: Mac Mini G4 with double hard drive a possible solution?
On Feb 11, 2010, at 2:41 PM, Chance Reecher wrote: Unless the 2nd bay has some sort of PATA to SATA converter, there should be no way for a SATA drive to even be connected. Clearing that up would be a great help to the group. If I am correct about a PATA to SATA converter, then perhaps there is some incompatability between the drives, converter, and the Mini. Chance Nicholas Fantuzzi wrote: Yes, I removed my superdrive and I put a 2nd PATA hard drive bay. It's a strange thing because, if I use a 500GB SATA hard drive the system doesn't boot, if I use a 80GB SATA hard drive the system boot instead, but it doesn't recognize any 2nd hdd. At the moment heat is not a problem, because I didn't rebuild the Mini :) Any ideas? Thanks Nicholas Make a 180 GB partition on the 500 primary drive and see if it boots. John Carmonne Yorba Linda USA -- You received this message because you are a member of G-Group, a group for those using G3, G4, and G5 desktop Macs - with a particular focus on Power Macs. The list FAQ is at http://lowendmac.com/lists/g-list.shtml and our netiquette guide is at http://www.lowendmac.com/lists/netiquette.shtml To post to this group, send email to g3-5-list@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/g3-5-list
Re: [G3-5]Re: Removing Open Superdrive from top menu
On 1/21/10 10:48 PM, Kris Tilford at ktilfo...@cox.net wrote: Hold the Command key and drag it off the menu bar. It goes poof and disappears. Well... I'm running 10.4 now and just want the opposite: to add the eject menu... Any guess? -- MaGioZal. http://twitter.com/magiozal/ -- You received this message because you are a member of G-Group, a group for those using G3, G4, and G5 desktop Macs - with a particular focus on Power Macs. The list FAQ is at http://lowendmac.com/lists/g-list.shtml and our netiquette guide is at http://www.lowendmac.com/lists/netiquette.shtml To post to this group, send email to g3-5-list@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/g3-5-list
Re: Power mac G5 question
Thanks for the help guys.. gonna try it this weekend. Much appreciated. On Feb 10, 5:39 pm, Clark Martin cm...@sonic.net wrote: On 2/10/10 2:16 PM, Trickster wrote: Hello Everyone, I bought a power mac G5 about two weeks ago. It is the 1.8 model, 900 mhz bus. I am in the process of upgrading the ram (tomorrow). I also installed another HD, so now have a 160 gig model and a 300 gig model. Have 10.4 installed on the 160. Is there an easy way to move this and the progs that I have installed over to the 300 gig, and make that my boot disc? Would prefer not to reinstall everything. Any help that anyone can provide would be great. Carbon Copy Cloner http://www.bombich.com -- Clark Martin Redwood City, CA, USA Macintosh / Internet Consulting I'm a designated driver on the Information Super Highway -- You received this message because you are a member of G-Group, a group for those using G3, G4, and G5 desktop Macs - with a particular focus on Power Macs. The list FAQ is at http://lowendmac.com/lists/g-list.shtml and our netiquette guide is at http://www.lowendmac.com/lists/netiquette.shtml To post to this group, send email to g3-5-list@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/g3-5-list
Re: Removing Open Superdrive from top menu
On 1/21/10 5:48 PM, Kris Tilford wrote: place an icon in my top menu so that I could eject (open the drive to remove) a disk. How is this done? -- You received this message because you are a member of G-Group, a group for those using G3, G4, and G5 desktop Macs - with a particular focus on Power Macs. The list FAQ is at http://lowendmac.com/lists/g-list.shtml and our netiquette guide is at http://www.lowendmac.com/lists/netiquette.shtml To post to this group, send email to g3-5-list@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/g3-5-list
Re: Removing Open Superdrive from top menu
On Feb 11, 2010, at 9:11 PM, Nestamicky wrote: On 1/21/10 5:48 PM, Kris Tilford wrote: place an icon in my top menu so that I could eject (open the drive to remove) a disk. How is this done? Something like this I believe (Thanks to David Pogue): open your System Library CoreServices Menu Extras and double click on Eject.menu item The Eject button/menulet icon will appear in the Finder's window items over to the right, near the clock (if you're showing the time). -- You received this message because you are a member of G-Group, a group for those using G3, G4, and G5 desktop Macs - with a particular focus on Power Macs. The list FAQ is at http://lowendmac.com/lists/g-list.shtml and our netiquette guide is at http://www.lowendmac.com/lists/netiquette.shtml To post to this group, send email to g3-5-list@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/g3-5-list
Re: Removing Open Superdrive from top menu
On Feb 11, 2010, at 8:39 PM, Bill Connelly wrote: On 1/21/10 5:48 PM, Kris Tilford wrote: place an icon in my top menu so that I could eject (open the drive to remove) a disk. How is this done? open your System Library CoreServices Menu Extras and double click on Eject.menu item The Eject button/menulet icon will appear in the Finder's window items over to the right, near the clock (if you're showing the time). Yes, this is correct, double-click on Eject.menu. If you don't like where it appears in the Finder menu, you can hold the Cmd key and drag it to anywhere you want it to be. For that matter, ANY menu item can be dragged so that the menu items appear in any custom order you desire simply by holding the Cmd key and dragging them to wherever you want them. When you're rearranging them, be careful to not let go of one outside the menu bar or it will disappear with a poof and you'll need to add it back again. -- You received this message because you are a member of G-Group, a group for those using G3, G4, and G5 desktop Macs - with a particular focus on Power Macs. The list FAQ is at http://lowendmac.com/lists/g-list.shtml and our netiquette guide is at http://www.lowendmac.com/lists/netiquette.shtml To post to this group, send email to g3-5-list@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/g3-5-list
Re: [G3-5]Re: Removing Open Superdrive from top menu
Navigate to SystemLibraryCoreServicesMenu Extras and double click Eject.menu I'm on tiger myself too! On Feb 11, 2010, at 5:27 PM, MaGioZal wrote: On 1/21/10 10:48 PM, Kris Tilford at ktilfo...@cox.net wrote: Hold the Command key and drag it off the menu bar. It goes poof and disappears. Well... I'm running 10.4 now and just want the opposite: to add the eject menu... Any guess? -- MaGioZal. http://twitter.com/magiozal/ -- You received this message because you are a member of G-Group, a group for those using G3, G4, and G5 desktop Macs - with a particular focus on Power Macs. The list FAQ is at http://lowendmac.com/lists/g-list.shtml and our netiquette guide is at http://www.lowendmac.com/lists/netiquette.shtml To post to this group, send email to g3-5-list@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/ group/g3-5-list -- You received this message because you are a member of G-Group, a group for those using G3, G4, and G5 desktop Macs - with a particular focus on Power Macs. The list FAQ is at http://lowendmac.com/lists/g-list.shtml and our netiquette guide is at http://www.lowendmac.com/lists/netiquette.shtml To post to this group, send email to g3-5-list@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/g3-5-list
Re: SSD
I'm not really talking about $500 - or $15,000 - SSD's. What's wrong with putting a $100 SSD into a $200 laptop, especially when that SSD can be reused in a future machine? (Or putting a $200 SSD into a $500 G5, for that matter?) And especially if it lowers your stress level through longer laptop battery life, more quiet, no head crash at exactly the worst moment, and more speed that allows you to get more work done in less tme? This isn't just an academic exercise. I consider a $250 or $500 Mac budget to be pretty low budget, especially after looking at recent Mac Pro prices. $500 can get you a lot of Mac now, especially if you invest some sweat equity, and know where to shop. -- You received this message because you are a member of G-Group, a group for those using G3, G4, and G5 desktop Macs - with a particular focus on Power Macs. The list FAQ is at http://lowendmac.com/lists/g-list.shtml and our netiquette guide is at http://www.lowendmac.com/lists/netiquette.shtml To post to this group, send email to g3-5-list@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/g3-5-list
Re: SSD
I'm not really talking about $500 - or $15,000 - SSD's. What's wrong with putting a $100 SSD into a $200 laptop, especially when that SSD can be reused in a future machine? (Or putting a $200 SSD into a $500 G5, for that matter?) And especially if it lowers your stress level through longer laptop battery life, more quiet, no head crash at exactly the worst moment, and more speed that allows you to get more work done in less tme? This isn't just an academic exercise. I consider a $250 or $500 Mac budget to be pretty low budget, especially after looking at recent Mac Pro prices. $500 can get you a lot of Mac now, especially if you invest some sweat equity, and know where to shop. Low End Mac doesn't mean Lowest End Mac, which is why I got a used Pismo instead of an older model. I was looking for an optimal machine, a best buy, not the cheapest one. -- You received this message because you are a member of G-Group, a group for those using G3, G4, and G5 desktop Macs - with a particular focus on Power Macs. The list FAQ is at http://lowendmac.com/lists/g-list.shtml and our netiquette guide is at http://www.lowendmac.com/lists/netiquette.shtml To post to this group, send email to g3-5-list@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/g3-5-list
Re: SSD
On Fri, Feb 12, 2010 at 5:53 AM, Ed Grey edwg...@gmail.com wrote: What's wrong with putting a $100 SSD into a $200 laptop, especially when that SSD can be reused in a future machine? A quick Google search for $ 100.00 SSDs did not even find any used ones of low capacity. I consider a $250 or $500 Mac budget to be pretty low budget, especially after looking at recent Mac Pro prices. $500 can get you a lot of Mac now, especially if you invest some sweat equity, and know where to shop. Well, on the G list and older amchine lists many may consider $ 500 a substantial investment. Thus some of the controversies that have been engendered here. This is Low End Mac after all. A $ 500 Mac Pro ? Hmm. Is that even possible? I don't think the swap list has had any of those in my recollection. Is there a Low End Mac without sweat equity of some sort ? -- Adrian D'Alessio aka; Fluxstringer fluxstrin...@gmail.com http://www.facebook.com/FluxStringer http://www.linkedin.com/in/fluxstreamcommunications http://flux-influx.blogspot.com/ http://fluxdreams.designbinder.com/ http://twitter.com/FluxStringer http://mog.com/FluxMuse -- You received this message because you are a member of G-Group, a group for those using G3, G4, and G5 desktop Macs - with a particular focus on Power Macs. The list FAQ is at http://lowendmac.com/lists/g-list.shtml and our netiquette guide is at http://www.lowendmac.com/lists/netiquette.shtml To post to this group, send email to g3-5-list@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/g3-5-list
Re: Mac Mini G4 with double hard drive a possible solution?
Make a 180 GB partition on the 500 primary drive and see if it boots. I have Mac Mini G4 (see object) 1,25 GHz 1GB RAM, and I'm booting Leopard 10.5.8 I have had an internal IDE drive from WD, it's a Scorpio Blue IDE 250GB. So I think is useless partition the 500GB to 180GB. Secondly, I've tried with a 80GB SATA and the system boots, even though I can't see any second drive with disk utility and system profiler. Help! -- You received this message because you are a member of G-Group, a group for those using G3, G4, and G5 desktop Macs - with a particular focus on Power Macs. The list FAQ is at http://lowendmac.com/lists/g-list.shtml and our netiquette guide is at http://www.lowendmac.com/lists/netiquette.shtml To post to this group, send email to g3-5-list@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/g3-5-list
Re: Mac Mini G4 with double hard drive a possible solution?
On Feb 11, 2010, at 11:37 PM, Nicholas Fantuzzi wrote: Make a 180 GB partition on the 500 primary drive and see if it boots. I have Mac Mini G4 (see object) 1,25 GHz 1GB RAM, and I'm booting Leopard 10.5.8 I have had an internal IDE drive from WD, it's a Scorpio Blue IDE 250GB. So I think is useless partition the 500GB to 180GB. Secondly, I've tried with a 80GB SATA and the system boots, even though I can't see any second drive with disk utility and system profiler. Help! Are the 250 and 500 drive internal? If so set the jumper to cable select. JOHN CARMONNE Yorba Linda USA carmo...@aol,com -- You received this message because you are a member of G-Group, a group for those using G3, G4, and G5 desktop Macs - with a particular focus on Power Macs. The list FAQ is at http://lowendmac.com/lists/g-list.shtml and our netiquette guide is at http://www.lowendmac.com/lists/netiquette.shtml To post to this group, send email to g3-5-list@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/g3-5-list