Re: Good Intel-Mac group ?
Thanks, Fabian, I should have phrased my question more clearly, I guess, but because I thought that maybe my 10.6.8 was the culprit, I wanted to do that in the proper group. Anyway, it would have read like this: After installing a Flash Player update from 11.9.900, it didn't work anymore on 10.6.8. Now maybe a newer version is working again, but before trying, I thought to ask if anyone had installed the most recent version of Flash Player /Shockwave Flash plugin on 10.6.8 successfully. Fortunately, I can answer that myself, now that I've just installed 13.0.014 and things seem to work as they should. I'm still looking for advice on where to find a nice and lively Intel-Mac group, or maybe a Core Duo group? Then I won't have to irritate Mr Fangy with my questions anymore... By the way, I didn't find an answer on Adobe's pages or their forum. The best help page for Flash Player in my opinion is this one: http://helpx.adobe.com/flash-player.html -- -- You received this message because you are a member of G-Group, a group for those using G3, G4, and G5 desktop Macs - with a particular focus on Power Macs. The list FAQ is at http://lowendmac.com/lists/g-list.shtml and our netiquette guide is at http://www.lowendmac.com/lists/netiquette.shtml To post to this group, send email to g3-5-list@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/g3-5-list --- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups G-Group group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to g3-5-list+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout.
Good Intel-Mac group ?
Which is a good group for Intel-based Macs? There's so many groups that I really don't know which one to pick. Some time ago I bought a Mac Mini Core Dual, and so far I had no problems. But recently, I updated Flash Player and then it didn't work anymore. After some experiments I managed to return to the old version and it worked again. Now I'd like to know what's going on there, and if later versions would work again with my 10.6.8 and Firefox 29.0.1, so if you know a nice and active group for that, let me know! -- -- You received this message because you are a member of G-Group, a group for those using G3, G4, and G5 desktop Macs - with a particular focus on Power Macs. The list FAQ is at http://lowendmac.com/lists/g-list.shtml and our netiquette guide is at http://www.lowendmac.com/lists/netiquette.shtml To post to this group, send email to g3-5-list@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/g3-5-list --- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups G-Group group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to g3-5-list+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout.
Re: Browser g4
When you double-click on a music file, you want not iTunes to open and play it, but QuickTime? If this is what you want to do, that's easy: -In the Finder, do Get Info on a file of the concerned type. -There is a section Open with... in there, where you can select the application you want to open it with. -Activate the checkbox Do this with all files of this type before clicking OK. (I'm not at my Mac right now, so it might be slightly different...) An alternative way is to drag the file's icon onto QuickTime's icon (e.g. in the dock) to open it. You didn't write what kind of music file you want to play, or what happens when you try to open iTunes by itself, what messages come up for example. All that is very useful for troubleshooting! Anyway, let us know how it goes. -- -- You received this message because you are a member of G-Group, a group for those using G3, G4, and G5 desktop Macs - with a particular focus on Power Macs. The list FAQ is at http://lowendmac.com/lists/g-list.shtml and our netiquette guide is at http://www.lowendmac.com/lists/netiquette.shtml To post to this group, send email to g3-5-list@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/g3-5-list --- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups G-Group group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to g3-5-list+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out.
Re: Browser g4
Now it seems adobe flash player is the problem. i cant open itunes or play music from G4. That's right, Ten4Fox doesn't support plugins. From their wiki: http://code.google.com/p/tenfourfox/wiki/PluginsNoLongerSupported --- As Mozilla adds more interactive HTML5 features to Firefox, many of these features will appear in 10.4Fx, superseding the need for plugins. --- What can I use to replace Flash and QuickTime right now? There will still be some content you can't view without a Flash plugin in the browser. Some of it can be worked around. - TenFourFox can open some videos in QuickTime Player directly using the QuickTimeEnablerhttp://code.google.com/p/tenfourfox/wiki/QuickTimeEnabler. This is compatible with many HTML5 video and audio files, and YouTube. - For YouTube videos in particular, the free MacTubeshttp://macapps.sakura.ne.jp/mactubes/index_en.htmlapplication allows you to view YouTube video in multiple resolutions and full-screen. It is also more efficient at playback on older Macs. Please support this excellent application. - If you have a fast-enough G4 or G5, you can also view many YouTube videos using TenFourFox's built-in HTML5 WebM video support, which *is*supported. To do so, visit http://www.youtube.com/html5 and opt in to the HTML5 trial. This will set a temporary cookie so that available embedded videos and videos on YouTube will be presented to you in native HTML5 video, if available. While you do not need a YouTube account to use HTML5 video, the cookie may periodically expire and require renewal, and not all videos are available in WebM. --- You could also try Camino, although it is not supported anymore. I like its more Mac-like feeling: http://caminobrowser.org/blog/2013/ -- -- You received this message because you are a member of G-Group, a group for those using G3, G4, and G5 desktop Macs - with a particular focus on Power Macs. The list FAQ is at http://lowendmac.com/lists/g-list.shtml and our netiquette guide is at http://www.lowendmac.com/lists/netiquette.shtml To post to this group, send email to g3-5-list@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/g3-5-list --- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups G-Group group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to g3-5-list+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out.
Re: Installing New HDD in my G5
Just prod Bruce a bit and he invariably comes up with invaluable advice :-) Thanks a lot for this great little tooltip! -- -- You received this message because you are a member of G-Group, a group for those using G3, G4, and G5 desktop Macs - with a particular focus on Power Macs. The list FAQ is at http://lowendmac.com/lists/g-list.shtml and our netiquette guide is at http://www.lowendmac.com/lists/netiquette.shtml To post to this group, send email to g3-5-list@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/g3-5-list --- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups G-Group group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to g3-5-list+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out.
Re: Installing New HDD in my G5
@Clark: ingenious! But if he values his data, he should have a backup, like an external HD or something. Even if he doesn't, I'm sure he can borrow a USB drive to do the transfer job. I guess he had not started on it yet because he wanted to be clear about the entire procedure first, and he wasn't sure how to copy the OS over. I agree with Greg that he should consider doing a fresh OS install, depending on how long he's been working with this system drive, and on how much time he can spend on the install of OS and application software. @Greg: I guess what you say about copying over the OS is about Apple's Drive Utility. But CCC can clone system disks independent of what the Mac is booted from. -- -- You received this message because you are a member of G-Group, a group for those using G3, G4, and G5 desktop Macs - with a particular focus on Power Macs. The list FAQ is at http://lowendmac.com/lists/g-list.shtml and our netiquette guide is at http://www.lowendmac.com/lists/netiquette.shtml To post to this group, send email to g3-5-list@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/g3-5-list --- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups G-Group group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to g3-5-list+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out.
Re: Installing New HDD in my G5
Hello! I'm trying to wrap my head around the best way to install the 500GB SATA drive I have bought for storing video files. Currently I'm running a 40GB system disc and 250GB for video projects. I'd like to use the 250GB as the system disc and start using the new 500GB for the video projects. What's the best solution? I guess first thing is to copy all of the video files to somewhere else. I know I should be doing that already : / I then need to clone the 40GB to the 250GB? Will that work? Then take the 40GB out and install the 500GB and then copy the video files over? Yes. Do you have somewhere else to copy the video files to, like a backup HD? Alternatively, if you have a (Firewire preferably) dock to connect the new drive externally, you could copy the files over before you install the 500GB--it's somewhat safer. Cloning works well with CCC. -- -- You received this message because you are a member of G-Group, a group for those using G3, G4, and G5 desktop Macs - with a particular focus on Power Macs. The list FAQ is at http://lowendmac.com/lists/g-list.shtml and our netiquette guide is at http://www.lowendmac.com/lists/netiquette.shtml To post to this group, send email to g3-5-list@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/g3-5-list --- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups G-Group group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to g3-5-list+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out.
Re: G4 Tibook 256 colors
John, may I ask why you need it to be in 256-colour mode? Often, problems can be solved in an unexpected way. -- -- You received this message because you are a member of G-Group, a group for those using G3, G4, and G5 desktop Macs - with a particular focus on Power Macs. The list FAQ is at http://lowendmac.com/lists/g-list.shtml and our netiquette guide is at http://www.lowendmac.com/lists/netiquette.shtml To post to this group, send email to g3-5-list@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/g3-5-list --- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups G-Group group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to g3-5-list+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out.
Re: What Mac to buy - and from where?
Right, Valter, now you mention it: there was this news half a year ago that Adobe had stopped using product identification for CS2, which in practice means that one can download and use it for free, but the draw-back was that it only ran on PPC. These Adobe guys aren't crazy, you know... -- -- You received this message because you are a member of G-Group, a group for those using G3, G4, and G5 desktop Macs - with a particular focus on Power Macs. The list FAQ is at http://lowendmac.com/lists/g-list.shtml and our netiquette guide is at http://www.lowendmac.com/lists/netiquette.shtml To post to this group, send email to g3-5-list@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/g3-5-list --- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups G-Group group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to g3-5-list+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out.
Re: What Mac to buy - and from where?
Thanks for the confirmation, PH! I didn't include the G4 Mac Mini in my recommendation, as I think it would be a step back from an eMac; otherwise, that would probably be the cheapest solution. One thing I'm not clear about is: which Adobe software has this problem? I have been using CS3 on a PowerMac (so PPC G4) and have moved it recently to an Intel MacMini with no problem at all. Op dinsdag 8 oktober 2013 03:38:19 UTC schreef PH: The newest OS supported on PowerMacs is 10.5.8 and that would probably be the recommended one. But 10.4.11 is good too and runs slightly faster. It must be my stupid day, but someone posted that 10.6 runs on PPC, which I can't understand either. My MacMini server is really a 1.25 GHz G4 with a replacement optical drive carrier and adapter which houses a second hard drive which is for data, only. Mine is setup to run 10.4.11 non-server when in non-server mode and 10.5.8 Server when in server mode. I keep the machine handy for the very reasons mentioned by the O.P ... the need to retain paid up Adobe, Fontographer and other software licenses, which would cost an arm and a leg to update to an Intel Mac, or ... horror of horrors ... Windoze. -- -- You received this message because you are a member of G-Group, a group for those using G3, G4, and G5 desktop Macs - with a particular focus on Power Macs. The list FAQ is at http://lowendmac.com/lists/g-list.shtml and our netiquette guide is at http://www.lowendmac.com/lists/netiquette.shtml To post to this group, send email to g3-5-list@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/g3-5-list --- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups G-Group group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to g3-5-list+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out.
Re: What Mac to buy - and from where?
I don't understand all the advice given in here. The simplest solution I see to keep the old software happy would be to get a PowerMac or iMac G5. It doesn't have to be one of the latest even, because all G5 are faster than the eMac, and the older models are cheaper, of course. That will have to do until he can buy another, newer model (anything he can afford) and upgrade the software. That could go in two steps: first the hardware, sometime later the upgrade. No harm using one computer for Adobe and another one in parallel for the rest. (Don: The newest OS supported on PowerMacs is 10.5.8 and that would probably be the recommended one. But 10.4.11 is good too and runs slightly faster. It must be my stupid day, but someone posted that 10.6 runs on PPC, which I can't understand either.) -- -- You received this message because you are a member of G-Group, a group for those using G3, G4, and G5 desktop Macs - with a particular focus on Power Macs. The list FAQ is at http://lowendmac.com/lists/g-list.shtml and our netiquette guide is at http://www.lowendmac.com/lists/netiquette.shtml To post to this group, send email to g3-5-list@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/g3-5-list --- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups G-Group group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to g3-5-list+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out.
Re: Network G5 to Macbook Pro to share superdrive
Sharing the drive is not enough, you want to be able to boot the Macbook from it. That's why even a USB-connected DVD drive won't do the trick and why Firewire-based target mode is such a great thing! -- -- You received this message because you are a member of G-Group, a group for those using G3, G4, and G5 desktop Macs - with a particular focus on Power Macs. The list FAQ is at http://lowendmac.com/lists/g-list.shtml and our netiquette guide is at http://www.lowendmac.com/lists/netiquette.shtml To post to this group, send email to g3-5-list@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/g3-5-list --- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups G-Group group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to g3-5-list+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out.
Re: Unresponsive script warning on Facebook
I don't remember really, but doesn't TenFourFox support html5 videos--without extensions I mean? Flash is on its way out, although it will take time, so things could be getting better even, with sites gradually moving to html5? Please correct me if I'm wrong! And what about using Tenfourfox for *browsing* instead of for viewing videos? ;-) At least for YouTube, you can use MacTubes--real nice! Op maandag 5 augustus 2013 20:43:39 UTC+2 schreef Cameron Kaiser: Actually, you won't live happily for much longer. In 18, Mozilla removed the QuickDraw code, so that's that. Whatever TenFourFox.next is, there will be no plugins, period. That should also mean, if I get it correctly, that one can use TFF 17, enabling the plug-ins (if that's what he wants), and it'd work? The plugin will *start*. I hesitate to say *work*; I don't test the plugin code anymore. 17 will end support with the release of 17.0.10 (17.0.8 is due out this week). -- personal: http://www.cameronkaiser.com/ -- Cameron Kaiser * Floodgap Systems * www.floodgap.com * cka...@floodgap.com javascript: -- We learn from history that we don't learn from history. -- Desmond Tutu -- -- You received this message because you are a member of G-Group, a group for those using G3, G4, and G5 desktop Macs - with a particular focus on Power Macs. The list FAQ is at http://lowendmac.com/lists/g-list.shtml and our netiquette guide is at http://www.lowendmac.com/lists/netiquette.shtml To post to this group, send email to g3-5-list@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/g3-5-list --- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups G-Group group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to g3-5-list+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out.
Re: Unresponsive script warning on Facebook
Op vrijdag 2 augustus 2013 18:17:17 UTC+2 schreef Cheryl H:This old mac mini has outlived it's usefulness. I am going to have to start using my Kindle Fire for internet stuff, I guess. Buying a new computer right now is not an option. Thanks for the info. Of course, it depends how much patience you have with your old Mac mini, but I think it's not that old at alll! Cameron posted a very good link to this TenFourFox FAQ, which is really worth quoting in here in full, and then I'll put in my two cents' worth: As sites become larger and use more complex JavaScript, even with the special acceleration in 10.4Fx, execution will be slow particularly on G3 and early G4 systems. When script runtime exceeds a certain threshold, this error appears. You can improve the browser's script performance in a few ways. Try some or all: - Remove unnecessary browser add-ons. These sometimes will interfere with some sites. - Use the NoScripthttps://addons.mozilla.org/en-US/firefox/addon/noscriptadd-on and allow JavaScript only to run on certain necessary sites. - Disable the unresponsive script warning entirely. Instructions are on this support tickethttp://tenfourfox.tenderapp.com/discussions/problems/174-unresponsive-script-warning. -- 1. If it were my Mac mini, I would install Tiger, not Leopard. It's a bit faster, and uses less RAM. That means you have to give up on Time Machine, but there is CCC to make backups, and most programs that need Leopard also need an Intel processor. 2. If you have not maxed out the RAM, that would actually be the first thing to do. 3. Do you have the original harddisk in there? Upgrading that to a newer one would also speed up things, and they're really not expensive anymore. 4. I don't have a Kindle, so you can hit me if I'm wrong, but I can't understand what's the big deal with them. I would prefer an Android tablet ten times over a Kindle Fire, unless I had loads of cash of course to buy both. I bought a Chinese tablet-like thing for 50$ that has poor software but works rather well as an epub reader, and it plays (some) videos as well. No Wifi of course, and it doesn't mount on a Mac, so I have to take out the micro SD to load stuff onto it, but still. -- -- You received this message because you are a member of G-Group, a group for those using G3, G4, and G5 desktop Macs - with a particular focus on Power Macs. The list FAQ is at http://lowendmac.com/lists/g-list.shtml and our netiquette guide is at http://www.lowendmac.com/lists/netiquette.shtml To post to this group, send email to g3-5-list@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/g3-5-list --- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups G-Group group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to g3-5-list+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out.
Re: Browers that don't crash
Oops, the indents on my post were rather confusing. So: Mark, you say you uss Firefox 17.0.7 on Tiger, but as far as I know, the newest version that works in Tiger is 3.6.28 -- -- You received this message because you are a member of G-Group, a group for those using G3, G4, and G5 desktop Macs - with a particular focus on Power Macs. The list FAQ is at http://lowendmac.com/lists/g-list.shtml and our netiquette guide is at http://www.lowendmac.com/lists/netiquette.shtml To post to this group, send email to g3-5-list@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/g3-5-list --- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups G-Group group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to g3-5-list+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out.
Re: upgrade eMac
Yes, because Tiger is stable, a little faster than 10.3 and many programs require 10.4.11 to run. And yes, TenFourFox is great for that (the name reads 10.4 Fox) and has optimized versions for G3 and two different G4 processors. Another browser: Camino is more Mac-like and works well, too. -- -- You received this message because you are a member of G-Group, a group for those using G3, G4, and G5 desktop Macs - with a particular focus on Power Macs. The list FAQ is at http://lowendmac.com/lists/g-list.shtml and our netiquette guide is at http://www.lowendmac.com/lists/netiquette.shtml To post to this group, send email to g3-5-list@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/g3-5-list --- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups G-Group group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to g3-5-list+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out.
Re: G5 thinks there are still two monitors attached, after removing one.
Apart from resetting the PRAM, I could think of some other things--others may correct me: 1. Look for Display Preferences in User/Library/Preferences and delete the file (I don't know the name) or move it out of the folder I know, you already logged in as a different user; I'm just brainstorming... 2. Click the button Detect Displays in the System Preferences/Displays and see if that triggers the right reaction 3. As a last resort, Glen's suggestion to switch to Mirror mode would at least give you proper control. What does the System Profiler (About this Mac, More info...) report in the Video/Displays section? The same issue with 10.8.2 on a Mac Mini was posted here, alas with no solution yet: http://discussions.apple.com/message/21502891#21502891 -- -- You received this message because you are a member of G-Group, a group for those using G3, G4, and G5 desktop Macs - with a particular focus on Power Macs. The list FAQ is at http://lowendmac.com/lists/g-list.shtml and our netiquette guide is at http://www.lowendmac.com/lists/netiquette.shtml To post to this group, send email to g3-5-list@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/g3-5-list --- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups G-Group group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to g3-5-list+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out.
Re: HP 5100 Laserjet driver for G4 needed
From half-gone memories, I recall: PPDs are not drivers. They are more like parameter files, informing the Laserwriter driver and the application what the printer can do and what it can't: resolution, colours, duplex, etc. As far as I know they have a fixed syntax, but there are special versions that include extra parameters to serve the possibilities of a particular program, e.g. PageMaker. Often desktop publishing programs came with a collection of PPDs. I think the main problems you can get when you use a different printer's PPD are wrong colours or screens. If you like, let me know to which extent this fits with your experience. Op woensdag 5 december 2012 00:25:42 UTC+1 schreef glenstrek het volgende: The installation installed many LaserJet PPD's including the LaserJet 5100. So I'm good. On a side note I tried tried another PPD from a GCC XL/1200 1200 dpi printer. The HP 5100 replaced an aging GCC XL/1200 another monochrome printer. The GCC PDD gave me the necessary features as well. I assume both PPD's were written in the same language. I think it is Adobe Postscript 4 (point something) -- You received this message because you are a member of G-Group, a group for those using G3, G4, and G5 desktop Macs - with a particular focus on Power Macs. The list FAQ is at http://lowendmac.com/lists/g-list.shtml and our netiquette guide is at http://www.lowendmac.com/lists/netiquette.shtml To post to this group, send email to g3-5-list@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/g3-5-list
Re: Can’t adjust brightness on ADC monitor
(What's happening? I was sure I had posted this already...) OK, I did my homework better this time and it turns out the button on the screen's frame (Apple Studio Display 17) doesn't bring up the brightness dialog even when it's the only screen connected to the PowerMac. That's not as I remember it, but I can't say 100% sure that it has worked correctly in the past, because I've been working with several such screens. So I looked around where the display prefs are and moved them (there were two files) to the desktop, then restarted. The button's behaviour remained the same: it lights up when pressed, but no dialog box appears. Anyway, no new prefs file was created until I changed the profile of a monitor, which gives me the feeling these display prefs are not involved with this error. Maybe it's hardware, after all? Or the system software? I really don't know. I guess the next step will be to borrow a ADC screen and see how that behaves on this computer, or connect this screen on a different PowerMac. Now implies something has changed...what is it? Do you get the expected behavior back when whatever that is is undone? You should be able to do everything separately on the two monitors. Did you try trashing the display prefs? Changing monitor profiles? -- Bruce Johnson University of Arizona College of Pharmacy Information Technology Group Institutions do not have opinions, merely customs -- You received this message because you are a member of G-Group, a group for those using G3, G4, and G5 desktop Macs - with a particular focus on Power Macs. The list FAQ is at http://lowendmac.com/lists/g-list.shtml and our netiquette guide is at http://www.lowendmac.com/lists/netiquette.shtml To post to this group, send email to g3-5-list@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/g3-5-list
Can’t adjust brightness on ADC monitor
I have two monitors on a PowerMac G4 (dual 500MHz): one is a Viewsonic on DVI, the other an Apple Studio 17 on ADC. Is it normal that I can’t adjust the brightness on the Apple monitor now? There’s no slider for it in the screen’s preferences, and pressing the button on the screen frame doesn’t bring up the usual dialog. Maybe I should mention that both monitors are connected to the same graphics card, a GeForce4 MX (AGP). If this is indeed the common behaviour, my theory is that the OS (10.4.11) can’t get a handle on the Viewsonic’s brightness, and then disables the software control for both. But I think it’s strange, given that other settings can be adjusted for each screen separately. -- You received this message because you are a member of G-Group, a group for those using G3, G4, and G5 desktop Macs - with a particular focus on Power Macs. The list FAQ is at http://lowendmac.com/lists/g-list.shtml and our netiquette guide is at http://www.lowendmac.com/lists/netiquette.shtml To post to this group, send email to g3-5-list@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/g3-5-list
Re: G4 MDD SCSI (pref non PCI)
What about saving over the Ethernet/LAN? -- You received this message because you are a member of G-Group, a group for those using G3, G4, and G5 desktop Macs - with a particular focus on Power Macs. The list FAQ is at http://lowendmac.com/lists/g-list.shtml and our netiquette guide is at http://www.lowendmac.com/lists/netiquette.shtml To post to this group, send email to g3-5-list@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/g3-5-list
Re: Mailplane and Google.com kaput
Glad you got it working. TenFourFox is not just an escape; I think it's the best browser, as long as you don't need Flash video (which may not work properly anyway with a G4). Just one thing that comes to mind: maybe there's a problem with cookies and that's why it's limited to those few sites? See what happens when you delete cookies in Safari and Firefox, either all or just for the problem-sites. -- You received this message because you are a member of G-Group, a group for those using G3, G4, and G5 desktop Macs - with a particular focus on Power Macs. The list FAQ is at http://lowendmac.com/lists/g-list.shtml and our netiquette guide is at http://www.lowendmac.com/lists/netiquette.shtml To post to this group, send email to g3-5-list@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/g3-5-list
Re: plug-ins update problem
Thanks Bruce, For your endless patience with garbled questions and your infinite knowlede base. You're the best! -- You received this message because you are a member of G-Group, a group for those using G3, G4, and G5 desktop Macs - with a particular focus on Power Macs. The list FAQ is at http://lowendmac.com/lists/g-list.shtml and our netiquette guide is at http://www.lowendmac.com/lists/netiquette.shtml To post to this group, send email to g3-5-list@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/g3-5-list
Re: Web Browsing Woes
I didn't know about this downloading, but yes, OpenType fonts are large, so that could be what's going on. Please send us (or me) some of the links, so I can see if they are slow here too, and what kind of fonts they use: website-specific ones, or more standard ones. Then again, there are many different ways to handle fonts; your browser may have settings where you can force it to use only certain fonts, so the download may be avoidable. Or: if these are standard fonts, some browsers may include them already during installation, and then those browsers won't slow down on these pages. OpenType fonts are not really useful on the Mac, because the specific OpenType features work only in Windows; Mac uses AAT, a different font technology, at least up to Snow Leopard AAIK. That may be the reason why Safari doesn't have those fonts installed. In short: see what happens in a different browser; a Windows- originated one like Firefox/TenFourFox could be a good choice. -- You received this message because you are a member of G-Group, a group for those using G3, G4, and G5 desktop Macs - with a particular focus on Power Macs. The list FAQ is at http://lowendmac.com/lists/g-list.shtml and our netiquette guide is at http://www.lowendmac.com/lists/netiquette.shtml To post to this group, send email to g3-5-list@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/g3-5-list
Re: Noise in Grounding, wasRe: dead mdd 2003 psu
there is a nethum,syntesizerlike splashes and fireworks and like automatic gunfire sounds that are so loud that u can not here the sound you are workin on. Did you try shielding the audio leads? Every computer produces interference, and your description of the noises sounds a bit like that. You could try putting the amplifier further away from the Mac, and if that is not enough, outputting the sound through USB to a sound device positioned close to the amplifier. For the others: these fireworks and such are only audible on high amplification levels! -- You received this message because you are a member of G-Group, a group for those using G3, G4, and G5 desktop Macs - with a particular focus on Power Macs. The list FAQ is at http://lowendmac.com/lists/g-list.shtml and our netiquette guide is at http://www.lowendmac.com/lists/netiquette.shtml To post to this group, send email to g3-5-list@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/g3-5-list
Re: Firewire and USB External optical drive case
There's some on German ebay: http://bit.ly/z9Vbsq If they don't ship to UK, I could play intermediate, although double shipping might make it not worth-while. -- You received this message because you are a member of G-Group, a group for those using G3, G4, and G5 desktop Macs - with a particular focus on Power Macs. The list FAQ is at http://lowendmac.com/lists/g-list.shtml and our netiquette guide is at http://www.lowendmac.com/lists/netiquette.shtml To post to this group, send email to g3-5-list@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/g3-5-list
Re: Firewire and USB External optical drive case
While I'm at it, could someone explain what's the deal with the FireWire-USB adapters that I see around? Do they really allow you to connect a USB drive to a FireWire port? I have a GigE with FW400 and an iBook G3 dual USB. -- You received this message because you are a member of G-Group, a group for those using G3, G4, and G5 desktop Macs - with a particular focus on Power Macs. The list FAQ is at http://lowendmac.com/lists/g-list.shtml and our netiquette guide is at http://www.lowendmac.com/lists/netiquette.shtml To post to this group, send email to g3-5-list@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/g3-5-list
Re: G4 Cube
Dear Eleni, To start a new thread, you have to click the button + new post top right. Changing the subject doesn't work, because threads are not connected through the subject line but through some under-the-hood numbering, Yes, Google should definitely change the text of that button to + new thread! Good luck -- You received this message because you are a member of G-Group, a group for those using G3, G4, and G5 desktop Macs - with a particular focus on Power Macs. The list FAQ is at http://lowendmac.com/lists/g-list.shtml and our netiquette guide is at http://www.lowendmac.com/lists/netiquette.shtml To post to this group, send email to g3-5-list@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/g3-5-list
Re: adding memory to iMac G4
Among all the talk about upgrading, I want to warn you that this iMac is *not* going to play YouTube very smoothly, even with the suggested RAM upgrade. It's a great computer not just for simple things but also very complicated ones, but Flash video is simply so heavy on the processor that it's no fun anymore. Things may improve as Flash is slowly going to be phased out. -- You received this message because you are a member of G-Group, a group for those using G3, G4, and G5 desktop Macs - with a particular focus on Power Macs. The list FAQ is at http://lowendmac.com/lists/g-list.shtml and our netiquette guide is at http://www.lowendmac.com/lists/netiquette.shtml To post to this group, send email to g3-5-list@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/g3-5-list
Re: 10.4 or 10.5 for a G4
Yes, this list is great! I just wanted to add that you can improve performance of this Mac by putting in more RAM, especially if you're using large applications or 10.5. -- You received this message because you are a member of G-Group, a group for those using G3, G4, and G5 desktop Macs - with a particular focus on Power Macs. The list FAQ is at http://lowendmac.com/lists/g-list.shtml and our netiquette guide is at http://www.lowendmac.com/lists/netiquette.shtml To post to this group, send email to g3-5-list@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/g3-5-list
Re: Strange fan issue with G5 + Leopard
To complement: Google groups are set up in a way that posts are kept together in the same thread even when the subject is changed. So the only way to start a new topic (as far as I know) is to click on the top right button marked + new post. I agree that the text on the button could be clearer. -- You received this message because you are a member of G-Group, a group for those using G3, G4, and G5 desktop Macs - with a particular focus on Power Macs. The list FAQ is at http://lowendmac.com/lists/g-list.shtml and our netiquette guide is at http://www.lowendmac.com/lists/netiquette.shtml To post to this group, send email to g3-5-list@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/g3-5-list
Re: PPC Flash Player UPDATE NEWS
@JohnV, Kris: With my 10.4.11 and Safari 4.1.3 it works, so that isn't the problem. John, maybe give more details about your software? To be exact, my Safari shows 5 mobile options, from Mobile Safari 4.1 iPhone through Mobile Safari 3.2.2 iPad. That solution is to go to SafariPreferences...Advanced and check the Show Develop menu in menu bar and then go to the Develop menu and change your User Agent to Safari iOS 4.3.3 – iPad. Do not see this there...? This is likely because you're probably using Tiger 10.4.11 with Safari version 4.1.3, and you'd need to be using Leopard 10.5.8 with Safari Version 5.0.6. -- You received this message because you are a member of G-Group, a group for those using G3, G4, and G5 desktop Macs - with a particular focus on Power Macs. The list FAQ is at http://lowendmac.com/lists/g-list.shtml and our netiquette guide is at http://www.lowendmac.com/lists/netiquette.shtml To post to this group, send email to g3-5-list@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/g3-5-list
Re: POLITICAL STATEMENT?
Dear All, Who needs LEM rules? I think everyone on this list has enough common sense to know this is a list concerned with computers, not human feelings. If anyone feels insulted, he/she should first think if it was really intentional at all, and if he/she thinks it was, respond to the poster, not the list, and explain his/her feelings. Undoubtedly, the OP will apologize, or at least explain what was really meant, and all is well again. Both senders and recipients should realize that in this internet age, it's much easier to say something one doesn't really mean. If we had to write it on paper and mail it, there would be a longer cooling-down and thinking-over time built in, and many rash hard words would simply not get sent at all. Also, because we often hardly know eachother, misunderstandings are very likely. In fact, it's a miracle that we usually get along so well. Peace! -- You received this message because you are a member of G-Group, a group for those using G3, G4, and G5 desktop Macs - with a particular focus on Power Macs. The list FAQ is at http://lowendmac.com/lists/g-list.shtml and our netiquette guide is at http://www.lowendmac.com/lists/netiquette.shtml To post to this group, send email to g3-5-list@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/g3-5-list
Re: Fed up with Google changes on browsers in Tiger
I’m using Apple Mail with gmail without problems since a long time already. I’m also using browser mail for gmail (in Camino, Firefox on a G4, and Ten4Fox on a G3 ibook) but I have set the account to basic html. Some time ago, there was some havoc with Google posting a message to upgrade my browser, and me being unable to go back to basic html as default, but that phase has passed. Maybe you’d be happier with an (older) intel Mac mini, instead of a G5? At least as a second station, for watching videos and stuff? -- You received this message because you are a member of G-Group, a group for those using G3, G4, and G5 desktop Macs - with a particular focus on Power Macs. The list FAQ is at http://lowendmac.com/lists/g-list.shtml and our netiquette guide is at http://www.lowendmac.com/lists/netiquette.shtml To post to this group, send email to g3-5-list@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/g3-5-list
new ibook battery bad?
I finished reviving an iBook G3 (the first white one, Dual USB) from my nephew and it runs Tiger nicely now. But the new battery I bought, which showed full when I received it, now doesn’t seem to hold much charge anymore: the onscreen indicator never goes above 10% or so and the tester button on the battery gives only one light. Now I confess that I bought a battery from Hongkong, which was several euros cheaper than what the majority of the other offers cost. Did I just buy a bad battery? -- You received this message because you are a member of G-Group, a group for those using G3, G4, and G5 desktop Macs - with a particular focus on Power Macs. The list FAQ is at http://lowendmac.com/lists/g-list.shtml and our netiquette guide is at http://www.lowendmac.com/lists/netiquette.shtml To post to this group, send email to g3-5-list@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/g3-5-list
Re: 22 Apple LCD - brightness a little uneven
Is this about the Apple Cinema Display, 1600x1024, DVI? All Apple says is: For best results, allow the display to warm up for 30 minutes to reach peak color quality. When displaying a large area of a single color, the color might not appear uniform throughout the area. This symptom can occur if the display has not warmed up. If there's a real problem with the backlight, the power LED will flash: Power light flashes amber in repeating sequence of two short flashes and one long flash. This symptom indicates a problem with the backlights. With 17 displays, it often happens that one or more of the flyback transformers fail, which results in the top or bottom half of the screen being slightly darker, and the power light flashing as described above. I don't know how the backlights are positioned in your screen, but if it's just one corner and the power LED is not flashing, I'd have to guess: maybe the backlight itself is getting old. I hope someone else in here can help you more... -- You received this message because you are a member of G-Group, a group for those using G3, G4, and G5 desktop Macs - with a particular focus on Power Macs. The list FAQ is at http://lowendmac.com/lists/g-list.shtml and our netiquette guide is at http://www.lowendmac.com/lists/netiquette.shtml To post to this group, send email to g3-5-list@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/g3-5-list
Re: GMail phasing out basic view?
Thanks, that is something to try. So far, I tried to change two strings on the about:config page (extensions.lastAppVersion and extensions.lastPlatformVersion) from 7.0 to 3.0, and at first it seemed to work, even though those strings were reverted to 7.0 after restarting TenFourFox. But after a few tries GMail started to send me to the standard view again. Maybe it has something to do with cookies as well. There's actually two points in here: 1. If possible, I'd like to get the basic view when I go to mail.google.com using this browser. 2. If that doesn't work, I at least want to get basic view when I go to https://mail.google.com/mail/?ui=html The first option has the added advantage that the yellow bar across the page You're using GMail in basic view. Update your browser, etc. is not there. if you really need Would I put so much energy into this if I didn't clearly prefer the basic view? I just don't like to wait for stuff I don't need. I'm not on a super-highspeed connection and my computer isn't that fast either. I wonder how people in developing countries are doing, or anyone with a dialup connection for that matter. -- You received this message because you are a member of G-Group, a group for those using G3, G4, and G5 desktop Macs - with a particular focus on Power Macs. The list FAQ is at http://lowendmac.com/lists/g-list.shtml and our netiquette guide is at http://www.lowendmac.com/lists/netiquette.shtml To post to this group, send email to g3-5-list@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/g3-5-list
GMail phasing out basic view?
You know that with Google Mail, you can choose basic view (instead of the standard view which loads slower and has more features). Just now I discovered that I can't set this basic view as the default, as I could in the past. So if you have a slow computer or connection and your Gmail account is set to basic view, don't click on standard view anymore, because that will change the default and you can't go back! Actually, my computerconnection are not slow, it's just that I rarely need the extra features and I hate the wait while that standard view is loading. The bad feeling I get from this is that it looks like Google is preparing to phase out the basic view interface altogether. At the moment, you can still get it by clicking on a button while the interface is loading. Or by changing your bookmark to https://mail.google.com/mail/?ui=html At least, that's what someone on the forum writes. It doesn't work for me. -- You received this message because you are a member of G-Group, a group for those using G3, G4, and G5 desktop Macs - with a particular focus on Power Macs. The list FAQ is at http://lowendmac.com/lists/g-list.shtml and our netiquette guide is at http://www.lowendmac.com/lists/netiquette.shtml To post to this group, send email to g3-5-list@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/g3-5-list
Re: GMail phasing out basic view?
It may not be as bad as I thought. One top contributor on the forum answered: GMail recently ceased support for several older versions of all three mainstream browsers - IE, Firefox and Chrome. Consequently many people who do not WANT to use Basic HTML are being directed there because their browser versions can't cope with Standard View. So the usual link in the top bar which allows you to (a) return to Standard View or (b) set Basic as default is currently replaced by the advice to upgrade your browser. I see this in my own Basic HTML view which I use a lot for testing - I probably switch back and forth several times a week.. Once this browser deprecation is no longer new and is over and done with, and everyone knows about it, and understands why they suddenly are in Basic HTML view instead of their preferred Standard view, the top bar message will almost certainly revert to normal. It always has in the past. In the meantime, use the link I gave right back at the top to get to your Basic HTML view and make a new bookmark/shortcut/favourite to use until the usual top bar returns. -- You received this message because you are a member of G-Group, a group for those using G3, G4, and G5 desktop Macs - with a particular focus on Power Macs. The list FAQ is at http://lowendmac.com/lists/g-list.shtml and our netiquette guide is at http://www.lowendmac.com/lists/netiquette.shtml To post to this group, send email to g3-5-list@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/g3-5-list
Re: daisy-chaining back up drive?
All right, guys, interesting! I didn't know all that! Still, for the original poster it's not relevant, and probably confusing. The bottom line for him doesn't change: he shouldn't be connecting two computers to one HD, and the best solution to use the drive from two computers is to connect it to the 10.4 one and share it, so the 9.2.2 one can mount it over the network. -- You received this message because you are a member of G-Group, a group for those using G3, G4, and G5 desktop Macs - with a particular focus on Power Macs. The list FAQ is at http://lowendmac.com/lists/g-list.shtml and our netiquette guide is at http://www.lowendmac.com/lists/netiquette.shtml To post to this group, send email to g3-5-list@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/g3-5-list
Re: 10.3 doesn’t see newer HD?
Thanks for the response. I’m on Digest Mode, and somehow I got these only today. There are two issues here: how to install onto the iBook, and why the iBook doesn’t see a HD in a connected G4 2x500 in Target disk mode. I did the install booting the G4 from the DVD and installing onto the iBook in Target disk mode, but that install didn’t work: it froze quickly, when I was working with Disk Utility, or just in the Finder. Where can I find the error log, so I can try and get a clue what was going on there? Then I tried the other way around (because I suspected the installed system was specific for G4 and gave problems on G3) but as described, the iBook saw one of the internal hard drives on the G4, but not the other one (which is under 128GB) or the DVD. At this point I can’t be sure anymore, but I really think I have done an install this way some time ago, to another G4 that had no DVD drive. Now I’m starting to think the DVD is faulty: I Carbon-copied it onto an external harddisk, then installed to the iBook from that harddisk connected over Firewire. The check during boot goes through without finding problems, with that harddisk and also when I boot the G4 from the DVD, but still. I’m going to Carbon-copy another installed (and working!) system to the iBook. If it works, I blame the DVD, if not, I don’t know anymore. As far as I know, there are no firmware issues involved, but right now it’s just as if this iBook doesn’t work with 10.4. -- You received this message because you are a member of G-Group, a group for those using G3, G4, and G5 desktop Macs - with a particular focus on Power Macs. The list FAQ is at http://lowendmac.com/lists/g-list.shtml and our netiquette guide is at http://www.lowendmac.com/lists/netiquette.shtml To post to this group, send email to g3-5-list@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/g3-5-list
10.3 doesn’t see newer HD?
I’m trying to install 10.4 on an iBook G3 running 10.3. It’s the first white one, the Dual USB, with only a CD drive, and my Tiger installer disk is a DVD. So I connected a G4 Mac (Snakebite) in target mode to use its DVD drive. But the iBook doesn’t see the DVD or the boot drive in the G4, it sees only the second HD in there, the original one with OS 9 installed. I don’t know what’s the problem. More importantly: How do I get the iBook to see the other drives too? The G4 has 10.4.11 installed and the volumes are journaled. If this isn’t possible, I plan to Carbon-copy the DVD onto an external HD with a Firewire port, then do the install with that HD connected to the iBook. I hope that’ll work at least... -- You received this message because you are a member of G-Group, a group for those using G3, G4, and G5 desktop Macs - with a particular focus on Power Macs. The list FAQ is at http://lowendmac.com/lists/g-list.shtml and our netiquette guide is at http://www.lowendmac.com/lists/netiquette.shtml To post to this group, send email to g3-5-list@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/g3-5-list
Re: I cloned OSX 10.4 from a G4 to a G5, and G5 doesn't boot
You could always consider creating a disk image of the boot volume on one computer and sending that to the other one over the network. Depending on your purpose with the backup, that may fulfil your needs. -- You received this message because you are a member of G-Group, a group for those using G3, G4, and G5 desktop Macs - with a particular focus on Power Macs. The list FAQ is at http://lowendmac.com/lists/g-list.shtml and our netiquette guide is at http://www.lowendmac.com/lists/netiquette.shtml To post to this group, send email to g3-5-list@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/g3-5-list
Re: Topic: Removing Heat Sink from Sonnet G4 upgrade card
I’ve been looking around a bit, and my conclusion sofar is: 71 C/160 F is hot, but not too hot for most processors. A little more detail: the max. temperature depends on the model; some go over 80, others only up to 65. Many have a safety switch that kicks in at a certain temperature to avoid damage. CPUs don’t break suddenly at high temperatures, but they age much faster. So in practice it can certainly happen that a CPU (finally) gives up at a time of high load. -- You received this message because you are a member of G-Group, a group for those using G3, G4, and G5 desktop Macs - with a particular focus on Power Macs. The list FAQ is at http://lowendmac.com/lists/g-list.shtml and our netiquette guide is at http://www.lowendmac.com/lists/netiquette.shtml To post to this group, send email to g3-5-list@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/g3-5-list
Re: Topic: Removing Heat Sink from Sonnet G4 upgrade card
That's 71 degrees Centigrade, if I'm right. That doesn't sound like too much to me. Anyone can say something about what is a safe max temperature of CPUs? Does it vary a lot among different models? -- You received this message because you are a member of G-Group, a group for those using G3, G4, and G5 desktop Macs - with a particular focus on Power Macs. The list FAQ is at http://lowendmac.com/lists/g-list.shtml and our netiquette guide is at http://www.lowendmac.com/lists/netiquette.shtml To post to this group, send email to g3-5-list@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/g3-5-list
Re: Removing Heat Sink from Sonnet G4 upgrade card
If this is the first time you replace a heatsink, then first read up on what is involved. Look on the web, but here's the main points: The metal of the heatsink doesn't sit on the processor directly. There is a thin layer of thermo paste between the two, because otherwise the two hard surfaces would not have proper contact. Sometimes a new heatsink comes with a layer of that stuff applied, or the existing layer is still OK. But to be prepared, you would need a plastic business card (to remove most of the paste), acetone and cotton swabs to remove the rest, then alcohol to really clean the surface. And of course new thermo paste. Maybe you know all this, but I thought it better to make sure and punch in some lines before you damage a nice CPU! Usually, Sonnet upgrades are well-designed, meaning that they have appropriate heatsinks or work with the heatsinks on the CPUs they replace. How do you determine that your model is generating too much heat? Did you tell the support guy the temperature? You're not overclocking it, are you -- or using it on a higher system bus speed than it's meant for? That's my 2¢... -- You received this message because you are a member of G-Group, a group for those using G3, G4, and G5 desktop Macs - with a particular focus on Power Macs. The list FAQ is at http://lowendmac.com/lists/g-list.shtml and our netiquette guide is at http://www.lowendmac.com/lists/netiquette.shtml To post to this group, send email to g3-5-list@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/g3-5-list
Re: More mass bounced emails...
Got another huge boatload of bounced emails today from trinettejohn...@fuse.net - some dating as far back as August of last year. This also happened around April 19 of this year. Maybe the mechanics are like this: some robot sends our G-list postings to that Fusenet address (postmas...@fuse.net) which then gets overloaded and sends us a The user(s) account is temporarily over quota message for each of those postings. (Fortunately, mine are promptly moved to my spam folder. Google Mail isn't perfect, but on such occasions, I'm really happy about it!) So it looks like this is in fact an attack aimed at fuse.net rather than at us; the originator uses our posts as ammunition to try and overload their server. -- You received this message because you are a member of G-Group, a group for those using G3, G4, and G5 desktop Macs - with a particular focus on Power Macs. The list FAQ is at http://lowendmac.com/lists/g-list.shtml and our netiquette guide is at http://www.lowendmac.com/lists/netiquette.shtml To post to this group, send email to g3-5-list@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/g3-5-list
Re: Need to Print Thousands of Micro$oft doc scans, Ahhh
I'd like to rather see this as a get to know something new every day. ;-) All right then! When you print something, the system reads the file and sends the DATA to the printer... regardless of the original file format it was saved in. (at least, that's what I understood) You're right. I was still thinking in terms of Postscript printers, but these days most printers just get a bitmap formatted properly for them by the printer driver. That leaves me wondering what a printer's CPU is doing these days. Anyway, the OP might look into a RAM upgrade for that printer. That would be kind of an answer to his question, after all. Saving an uncompressed TIF or an higly compressed JPG takes the same time (on a modern Mac), but with the JPG you get 1/10th of the size (or less). Yes, but I was talking of lossless compression, where tighter compression requires more passes through the file. Photoshop doesn't give a choice when saving TIFF files except for Layer Compression, where ZIP takes about twice the time. But it's true, that's only a few seconds difference on my 2x500 G4 (for a 2MB file). But it was 68030, 68040 and tens of MHz time! ;-) Nowadays, even a cell phone has more CPU power than a Mac Quadra... :-D Yeah, I remember printing to graphic film with a IIci upgraded to 12MB RAM, or was it 20, and a 100MB harddisk. And that's only 15 years ago... -- You received this message because you are a member of G-Group, a group for those using G3, G4, and G5 desktop Macs - with a particular focus on Power Macs. The list FAQ is at http://lowendmac.com/lists/g-list.shtml and our netiquette guide is at http://www.lowendmac.com/lists/netiquette.shtml To post to this group, send email to g3-5-list@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/g3-5-list
Re: Need to Print Thousands of Micro$oft doc scans, Ahhh
Sorry for creating havoc :-) To sum up how I understand it now: 1. The Mac decompresses the files before sending them to the printer anyway -- so converting them wouldn’t help. 2. File transfer goes at LAN speed. 3. The printer takes a long time RIPing uncompressed tiff files. So either the printer’s CPU is the bottleneck, or the printer’s RAM is really too small for these files and it spends a long time juggling around the data. Re. compression: There can be a big difference in file size, depending on the time you spend analyzing the file. Remember DiskDoubler asking you if you want Fast, Standard, Small, or Smallest/Slow? So it doesn’t directly depend on the scanning, but it does depend on the software used to write the files. If done on a fast computer, one can afford to compress them more than on a slower system. -- You received this message because you are a member of G-Group, a group for those using G3, G4, and G5 desktop Macs - with a particular focus on Power Macs. The list FAQ is at http://lowendmac.com/lists/g-list.shtml and our netiquette guide is at http://www.lowendmac.com/lists/netiquette.shtml To post to this group, send email to g3-5-list@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/g3-5-list
Re: Need to Print Thousands of Micro$oft doc scans, Ahhh
Or: Glen could batch-process the images, i.e. open them and save them uncompressed, and then print those. That would take the load off the printer’s processor and put it on the Mac’s CPU. It would be interesting to try, but I’m not sure if it would make a difference to the bottom line. -- You received this message because you are a member of G-Group, a group for those using G3, G4, and G5 desktop Macs - with a particular focus on Power Macs. The list FAQ is at http://lowendmac.com/lists/g-list.shtml and our netiquette guide is at http://www.lowendmac.com/lists/netiquette.shtml To post to this group, send email to g3-5-list@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/g3-5-list
Time Machine troubles
A friend of mine using 10.6 got a problem with his boot disk. So he restored it with Time Machine, but now the Mac doesn't boot from that disk anymore: it just showed the rotating cogwheel for an hour or more. Any advice what to try? -- You received this message because you are a member of G-Group, a group for those using G3, G4, and G5 desktop Macs - with a particular focus on Power Macs. The list FAQ is at http://lowendmac.com/lists/g-list.shtml and our netiquette guide is at http://www.lowendmac.com/lists/netiquette.shtml To post to this group, send email to g3-5-list@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/g3-5-list
Re: radeon 9800 pro
It is a G5 card (8x) but I am fairly certain the G4 and G5 have the same AGP. Uh oh. I don’t know much about graphic cards, but G4 and G5 AGP slots are different in just the way you described. Sorry about that. -- You received this message because you are a member of G-Group, a group for those using G3, G4, and G5 desktop Macs - with a particular focus on Power Macs. The list FAQ is at http://lowendmac.com/lists/g-list.shtml and our netiquette guide is at http://www.lowendmac.com/lists/netiquette.shtml To post to this group, send email to g3-5-list@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/g3-5-list
Re: USB 2 versus g3 powermac bus
anyone know how fast the onboard bus on a g3 350 is compared to usb2? In other words comparing read and write speeds. Thanks Maybe you want to compare the speed of internal and external harddisks? The internal hd-bus is ATA/33, which has a max of 33.3 MB/s. So it’s a good deal faster than USB1, but way slower than USB2. But of course real speeds depend on more than just that bus. -- You received this message because you are a member of G-Group, a group for those using G3, G4, and G5 desktop Macs - with a particular focus on Power Macs. The list FAQ is at http://lowendmac.com/lists/g-list.shtml and our netiquette guide is at http://www.lowendmac.com/lists/netiquette.shtml To post to this group, send email to g3-5-list@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/g3-5-list
Re: CPU upgrade options for Power Mac G4 DA
There was a 500 MHz dual processor. Oops, you’re right--I forgot that snakebite I’m using daily...! -- You received this message because you are a member of G-Group, a group for those using G3, G4, and G5 desktop Macs - with a particular focus on Power Macs. The list FAQ is at http://lowendmac.com/lists/g-list.shtml and our netiquette guide is at http://www.lowendmac.com/lists/netiquette.shtml To post to this group, send email to g3-5-list@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/g3-5-list
Re: CPU upgrade options for Power Mac G4 DA
Leopard is a bit slower than Tiger, so you have to decide if it’s worth it. Otherwise, running Leopard on this DA is not a problem. The only problem is with installing it, unless you can use another faster Mac for that: connect the DA in target disk mode and install onto its harddisk from the faster Mac. Then make a disk image of the DA’s boot partition to another disk (or partition) so you won’t need to use the other Mac again, in case your boot partition goes bad. Upgrading the processor, in my opinion, is only worth the trouble if you at least double the speed. And often you can get a complete machine, MDD or QS, for the same price as a CPU upgrade. That means you’d have two good Macs instead of one, for the same cost! In your case, you could look on ebay for a QS 2002 with a broken CPU. Geke -- You received this message because you are a member of G-Group, a group for those using G3, G4, and G5 desktop Macs - with a particular focus on Power Macs. The list FAQ is at http://lowendmac.com/lists/g-list.shtml and our netiquette guide is at http://www.lowendmac.com/lists/netiquette.shtml To post to this group, send email to g3-5-list@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/g3-5-list
Re: CPU upgrade options for Power Mac G4 DA
Gene Henley wrote: I`d like to slightly vary the question. I have a prior model which has a 100Mhz bus. The current processor is 450Mhz. I`d like to upgrade. On 100MHz models, only CPUs from 100MHz models make sense: a 600MHz CPU from a 133MHz Mac runs at 450MHz in a 100MHz Mac, unless you dive deep into firmware settings. Because 450MHz is about the fastest 100MHz CPU that Apple has used, your only option would be a CPU upgrade like Sonnet etc. Good luck, Geke -- You received this message because you are a member of G-Group, a group for those using G3, G4, and G5 desktop Macs - with a particular focus on Power Macs. The list FAQ is at http://lowendmac.com/lists/g-list.shtml and our netiquette guide is at http://www.lowendmac.com/lists/netiquette.shtml To post to this group, send email to g3-5-list@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/g3-5-list
Re: New Yahoo mail on clamshell?
Oops: TenFourFox works from 10.4.11 only... like so many nice programs these days. -- You received this message because you are a member of G-Group, a group for those using G3, G4, and G5 desktop Macs - with a particular focus on Power Macs. The list FAQ is at http://lowendmac.com/lists/g-list.shtml and our netiquette guide is at http://www.lowendmac.com/lists/netiquette.shtml To post to this group, send email to g3-5-list@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/g3-5-list
Re: Safari memory leak fixed ?
O.K. but you lost me regarding 'debug menu' (I'm running 10.5.8). Where is debug menu? Maybe he means what in my Safari 4.1.3 is called the Developer menu? You can make that appear in Safari’s Preferences/Advanced. Still, no Caches window there, but maybe the Web inspector can help? Or, to fix the problem, you could try switching Caches off there. Just guessing, waiting for the final word... -- You received this message because you are a member of G-Group, a group for those using G3, G4, and G5 desktop Macs - with a particular focus on Power Macs. The list FAQ is at http://lowendmac.com/lists/g-list.shtml and our netiquette guide is at http://www.lowendmac.com/lists/netiquette.shtml To post to this group, send email to g3-5-list@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/g3-5-list
Re: New Yahoo mail on clamshell?
TenFourFox may be your browser: http://www.floodgap.com/software/tenfourfox/ They have separate versions for G4 and G3 processors. But I agree with Tina that you may be better off upgrading the RAM and getting 10.4. I’m using Safari 4 with it, and 10.4 may be even faster than 10.3, given enough RAM. -- You received this message because you are a member of G-Group, a group for those using G3, G4, and G5 desktop Macs - with a particular focus on Power Macs. The list FAQ is at http://lowendmac.com/lists/g-list.shtml and our netiquette guide is at http://www.lowendmac.com/lists/netiquette.shtml To post to this group, send email to g3-5-list@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/g3-5-list
customize email pgm
There it was again, that ... so eloquently wrote in Tina's posts. I'm always wondering how you got that in, so finally I'm going to ask: Which email pgm is allowing such customization, and how to go about it? Other ideas welcome, too! -- You received this message because you are a member of G-Group, a group for those using G3, G4, and G5 desktop Macs - with a particular focus on Power Macs. The list FAQ is at http://lowendmac.com/lists/g-list.shtml and our netiquette guide is at http://www.lowendmac.com/lists/netiquette.shtml To post to this group, send email to g3-5-list@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/g3-5-list
Re: Keep the Sawtooth?
I have every model of G4 tower Yikes, Sawtooth, Gigabit Ethernet, Digital Audio, Quicksilver, MDD. I'm clearing out a few things and I'm trying to think of a compelling reason to not get rid of the Sawtooth and I can't think of one. Is there one? That’s a nice collection! What are you keeping them for? Just kidding... but let me know what you are using them for and I’ll know better what to tell you. One good reason to get rid of G4s could be that they make great computers for less well-off schools or families. -- You received this message because you are a member of G-Group, a group for those using G3, G4, and G5 desktop Macs - with a particular focus on Power Macs. The list FAQ is at http://lowendmac.com/lists/g-list.shtml and our netiquette guide is at http://www.lowendmac.com/lists/netiquette.shtml To post to this group, send email to g3-5-list@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/g3-5-list
spam
I just got 79 spam messages, fortunately all of them were filtered out by Gmail. The reason for reporting this here is that they were all looking like error messages for not being able to deliver a post of mine to the G3-5 group. So it looks like someone has been collecting all my posts on this list and sending me such a mail for each of them, after finding out my email address as well. -- You received this message because you are a member of G-Group, a group for those using G3, G4, and G5 desktop Macs - with a particular focus on Power Macs. The list FAQ is at http://lowendmac.com/lists/g-list.shtml and our netiquette guide is at http://www.lowendmac.com/lists/netiquette.shtml To post to this group, send email to g3-5-list@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/g3-5-list
Re: Welcome!!!
finally found a way to lose weight that works and is actually healthy for you! let me know if you have any questions about it. Question: Would you please take some more of that berry stuff? I mean, just enough to get to weight 0. -- You received this message because you are a member of G-Group, a group for those using G3, G4, and G5 desktop Macs - with a particular focus on Power Macs. The list FAQ is at http://lowendmac.com/lists/g-list.shtml and our netiquette guide is at http://www.lowendmac.com/lists/netiquette.shtml To post to this group, send email to g3-5-list@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/g3-5-list
Re: LogMeIN question
Jane, You can press Shift+Command+3 when that message comes up. That makes a screenshot of your entire screen which you can open with Preview. -- You received this message because you are a member of G-Group, a group for those using G3, G4, and G5 desktop Macs - with a particular focus on Power Macs. The list FAQ is at http://lowendmac.com/lists/g-list.shtml and our netiquette guide is at http://www.lowendmac.com/lists/netiquette.shtml To post to this group, send email to g3-5-list@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/g3-5-list
Flash on G4
But I would not expect a computer of any manufacture that old to stream HD anyway. Are my machines anomalies in that they handle youtube and other Flash sites just fine? If one knows what to expect, one is never disappointed! And I guess it makes a difference if you keep your Macs uncluttered as for processes running in the background. -- You received this message because you are a member of G-Group, a group for those using G3, G4, and G5 desktop Macs - with a particular focus on Power Macs. The list FAQ is at http://lowendmac.com/lists/g-list.shtml and our netiquette guide is at http://www.lowendmac.com/lists/netiquette.shtml To post to this group, send email to g3-5-list@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/g3-5-list
OT how to suggest Google groups feature
Anyone knows how to suggest a feature for Google groups? I’m on Digest for this group, and over the links in the email, I can jump either to seeing the complete thread, or just to one post. But usually what I want really is to see all new posts in a thread starting from a certain one. So I’m wishing for a link called from here or something, next to the more... link, or even instead of it. How can I send in such a thing for consideration? -- You received this message because you are a member of G-Group, a group for those using G3, G4, and G5 desktop Macs - with a particular focus on Power Macs. The list FAQ is at http://lowendmac.com/lists/g-list.shtml and our netiquette guide is at http://www.lowendmac.com/lists/netiquette.shtml To post to this group, send email to g3-5-list@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/g3-5-list
Playing Flash on G4
Thanks for that great info! Nice to have everything together in one thread, too. -- You received this message because you are a member of G-Group, a group for those using G3, G4, and G5 desktop Macs - with a particular focus on Power Macs. The list FAQ is at http://lowendmac.com/lists/g-list.shtml and our netiquette guide is at http://www.lowendmac.com/lists/netiquette.shtml To post to this group, send email to g3-5-list@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/g3-5-list
Re: Overclock a G4 iMac?
Interesting idea, Tina. How do you do that, making Safari (or Camino, or FireFox) pretend it’s an iPad? I did something like that with my PB1400 running 8.6. Its Wamcom browser doesn’t digest Wikipedia well, so I use a convertor for reading Wikipedia on a mobile device. -- You received this message because you are a member of G-Group, a group for those using G3, G4, and G5 desktop Macs - with a particular focus on Power Macs. The list FAQ is at http://lowendmac.com/lists/g-list.shtml and our netiquette guide is at http://www.lowendmac.com/lists/netiquette.shtml To post to this group, send email to g3-5-list@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/g3-5-list
Re: Overclock a G4 iMac?
YouTube is heavy on the computer, unfortunately it's as simple as that. You can improve the display by not using full-screen mode, and by using a low-resolution alternative stream as pointed out by the other posters. Or see if you can increase the computer's RAM, and maybe install a clean OS. Re. overclocking: that is not for the faint at heart. It means changing something to the hardware, or deep inside the operating system, to make the processor run faster than its tested maximum speed. In practice, that will give you 1. something like a 10% speed boost and 2. more system crashes. A more realistic thing would be to replace the processor by a faster one, but as far as I know that can't be done in iMacs. (Please correct me, anyone.) Somehow your post sounds as if he is used to a different computer and/ or a different internet connection where everything goes smooth. Yes, there are cheap Windows-boxes playing YouTube better than this iMac. What to do? You could tell him that Macs are for being creative, not for consuming tons of YouTube crap... -- You received this message because you are a member of G-Group, a group for those using G3, G4, and G5 desktop Macs - with a particular focus on Power Macs. The list FAQ is at http://lowendmac.com/lists/g-list.shtml and our netiquette guide is at http://www.lowendmac.com/lists/netiquette.shtml To post to this group, send email to g3-5-list@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/g3-5-list
Re: Motherboard and Memory Questions on recovered DAFir
@Albert: The Digital Audio has this quirk that it has 3 physical RAM slots but 4 logical ones. @Mark: The DA does need 133MHz. What you can do from here is swapping the modules in slot 2 and 3 and see how they are reported then. If slot 2 is reported empty after the swap, you know the module has got damaged somewhere in the process. If slot 3 is reported empty still, something could be wrong with the slot. That would be bad news. In that case, you would need a good motherboard. But I think I’ve read in other threads that RAM is an unfathomable thing sometimes, so it’s worth trying all 6 permutations of your 3 RAM modules. That is, once you are sure that all 3 are good. Albert’s suggestion is a good way to find that out. The main thing is to be absolutely systematic. It’s good to write down what you are doing so you can trace everything back. It’s also good to (temporarily) mark the modules so you can clearly identify them. -- You received this message because you are a member of G-Group, a group for those using G3, G4, and G5 desktop Macs - with a particular focus on Power Macs. The list FAQ is at http://lowendmac.com/lists/g-list.shtml and our netiquette guide is at http://www.lowendmac.com/lists/netiquette.shtml To post to this group, send email to g3-5-list@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/g3-5-list
Re: Help - Anyone with OS 9.1 install disk for a G4 Digital Audio?
Some knowing better please correct me, but could it be that this Mac only supports this OS when its firmware has not been updated? -- You received this message because you are a member of G-Group, a group for those using G3, G4, and G5 desktop Macs - with a particular focus on Power Macs. The list FAQ is at http://lowendmac.com/lists/g-list.shtml and our netiquette guide is at http://www.lowendmac.com/lists/netiquette.shtml To post to this group, send email to g3-5-list@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/g3-5-list
Re: A Good Monitor for my DA Dual 533 G4
I was in the same situation some time ago. Seeing that the price for a used card with DVI out was only about 30 USD (that is, not much more than the cost of an ADC-DVI adapter) I decided to go for the card. And in the process, I improved the computer’s performance, because the original card in my DA 466MHz was rather slow, it turns out, compared to the Radeon 9000 card I got. The GeForce one will be good too; just check that the maximum resolution the card supports matched your monitor. -- You received this message because you are a member of G-Group, a group for those using G3, G4, and G5 desktop Macs - with a particular focus on Power Macs. The list FAQ is at http://lowendmac.com/lists/g-list.shtml and our netiquette guide is at http://www.lowendmac.com/lists/netiquette.shtml To post to this group, send email to g3-5-list@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/g3-5-list
Re: Low density or high?
I have 3 high density 512mb chips... am I good to go? Try before you buy is the best way. Or ask the seller to confirm they’ll work in your specific model. Actually, I thought all Macs needed low-density RAM -- it seems it gives better performance or reliability -- but if you have those chips already, there’s no harm in putting them in and try it out. Just take care of handling them correctly regarding electrostatics (grounded wrist wrap) but you knew that. -- You received this message because you are a member of G-Group, a group for those using G3, G4, and G5 desktop Macs - with a particular focus on Power Macs. The list FAQ is at http://lowendmac.com/lists/g-list.shtml and our netiquette guide is at http://www.lowendmac.com/lists/netiquette.shtml To post to this group, send email to g3-5-list@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/g3-5-list
Re: Apple Oompa Loompas!
Sorry it doesn't work on your Mac, Yersinia. Somehow it works OK on my G4 2x500. Maybe the hype is over by now? I'm on digest... Anyway, I think it's nice but not fabulous. The best part is where the guy rejects Bill Gates' offer! I recorded the thing with RealAudio, if you want you can download it from my Dropbox. It's 15 MB: http://dl.dropbox.com/u/18327560/Charlie%20and%20the%20Apple%20Factory%20-%20CollegeHumor%20video.mp4 -- You received this message because you are a member of G-Group, a group for those using G3, G4, and G5 desktop Macs - with a particular focus on Power Macs. The list FAQ is at http://lowendmac.com/lists/g-list.shtml and our netiquette guide is at http://www.lowendmac.com/lists/netiquette.shtml To post to this group, send email to g3-5-list@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/g3-5-list
Re: Should I put Leopard 5.0 om G4 flat screen iMac?
I think it’s wise to leave it at Tiger, especially if you’re more familiar with that and will do tech support. If you give him an administrator account, then the best thing you can do is to get an external HD with Firewire and set up a complete (incremental) backup schedule with Carbon Copy Cloner. Or maybe two: one daily and one weekly, to different partitions. You’re doing the right thing in giving him a Mac. Macs are more orderly, which makes him think/work more orderly -- a little bit, anyway. -- You received this message because you are a member of G-Group, a group for those using G3, G4, and G5 desktop Macs - with a particular focus on Power Macs. The list FAQ is at http://lowendmac.com/lists/g-list.shtml and our netiquette guide is at http://www.lowendmac.com/lists/netiquette.shtml To post to this group, send email to g3-5-list@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/g3-5-list
Re: how to record voice and screen activity on the cheap?
Sorry for hijacking the thread, but I have a problem with TeamViewer: I can initiate a session from a Mac to a PC, but not the other way around, or from a Mac to a Mac. Any idea what could be wrong? I’ve tried both over the internet and on the LAN (to which all three, 2 Macs and the PC are connected) with appropriate settings, but no luck. The PC is running XP, the Macs 10.4.11 -- You received this message because you are a member of G-Group, a group for those using G3, G4, and G5 desktop Macs - with a particular focus on Power Macs. The list FAQ is at http://lowendmac.com/lists/g-list.shtml and our netiquette guide is at http://www.lowendmac.com/lists/netiquette.shtml To post to this group, send email to g3-5-list@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/g3-5-list
Re: G4 933 Quicksilver
Hi Barney, Maybe you’re gently mocking the listers for always reporting all those problems? It’s true, the list doesn’t reflect our life with Mac in a balanced way, but then, I don’t think it’s supposed to. On the other hand, it could be refreshing from time to time to hear stories of G3-G5s running smooth, doing what we want them to do, thusly empowering our lives. I’ve a Powerbook 1400 with a G3 upgrade and OS 8.6 for simple stuff, with RAM-Mozilla mainly for email (including this list), MS Word 5, FileMaker Pro 3. When its RAM gets full, I have to reboot it, otherwise it’s always ready for a quick check or moment of inspiration. I have it in my living room, which is possible because it has no fan and boots from a CF card. I’ve typed an entire (thin) book on it -- true, part of it with an external ADB keyboard. Then a GigabitEthernet 2x500 which I use for all other things. It’s starting to boot a bit slowly now, because I can’t help installing more and more stuff. Otherwise it’s just there, doing all I want it to -- sometimes after some coaxing. Third: a GigE 450MHz (from a Cube) set up as a public computer running Tiger, with user accounts and browsers in three languages to accommodate different users. Running everyday with its old 20GB harddisk, it’s a modest but valued workplace. -- You received this message because you are a member of G-Group, a group for those using G3, G4, and G5 desktop Macs - with a particular focus on Power Macs. The list FAQ is at http://lowendmac.com/lists/g-list.shtml and our netiquette guide is at http://www.lowendmac.com/lists/netiquette.shtml To post to this group, send email to g3-5-list@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/g3-5-list
Re: External drive fails to appear on Desk top?
Then what can be the difference between the two systems, the one on the old drive and the newly-installed one? Can you try the drive on another computer? Or do you have a clone of that old system you can boot from and see if the drive appears with that one running? Or does this HD need some driver software to be installed? Or, if the Network setting for the Firewire port is off, could that be the reason? Just guessing... I hope someone recognizes the situation. In the worst case, you could always take the HD from its enclosure and connect it in a different way, like USB, with that device Bruce suggested, or internally if you have the right connection/adapter. -- You received this message because you are a member of G-Group, a group for those using G3, G4, and G5 desktop Macs - with a particular focus on Power Macs. The list FAQ is at http://lowendmac.com/lists/g-list.shtml and our netiquette guide is at http://www.lowendmac.com/lists/netiquette.shtml To post to this group, send email to g3-5-list@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/g3-5-list
Re: Power Mac G4 733mhz Digital Audio dilemma
1. I’d say go for Tiger or newer. Lots of software require Tiger or newer, and Tiger is faster than Jaguar or Panther. 2. Leopard or Tiger? Speed depends on which programs you use and is subjective anyway, so it’s hard to say if you’d be satisfied with Leopard’s speed. This may not be legal, but I would: borrow Tiger (10.4.11) and install that, because it’s quick and simple. Then see if you like the speed with your favourite programs. Subtract about 30%-40% from that speed and you’d have a rough gauge of the speed under Leopard. In fact, Leopard is not that much slower, but I’m trying to guess the difference between a used-for-some-time Leopard and a fresh Tiger. As I have little experience with Leopard, I welcome corrections to this estimation! -- You received this message because you are a member of G-Group, a group for those using G3, G4, and G5 desktop Macs - with a particular focus on Power Macs. The list FAQ is at http://lowendmac.com/lists/g-list.shtml and our netiquette guide is at http://www.lowendmac.com/lists/netiquette.shtml To post to this group, send email to g3-5-list@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/g3-5-list
Re: no content folder in date and time preference panel
lphilen wrote: With help from others, i have got my computer running great. thanks to all who offered help. Hey, the list likes to get some feedback please... What was the culprit? Was it that you didn’t have the password installed by the previous user? And did you manage to reset it? Or, did you just erase the system and installed a new OS? -- You received this message because you are a member of G-Group, a group for those using G3, G4, and G5 desktop Macs - with a particular focus on Power Macs. The list FAQ is at http://lowendmac.com/lists/g-list.shtml and our netiquette guide is at http://www.lowendmac.com/lists/netiquette.shtml To post to this group, send email to g3-5-list@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/g3-5-list
Re: How to test PRAM battery?
Yersinia wrote: Does this mean that if a Mac's problem can indeed be traced to a malfunctioning (for whatever reason) PRAM battery and you buy a new one that tests good (with a voltmeter) and THAT doesn't fix it you might as well give up on that Mac and use or sell it for parts? In principle, yes. But in practice, it’s very rare that a computer works properly only with a good PRAM battery. I’m using a PB 1400 with a PRAM battery that’s expired many years ago. I keep it on standby always to avoid the slow reboot and setting the datetime, but otherwise there’s no problem at all. -- You received this message because you are a member of G-Group, a group for those using G3, G4, and G5 desktop Macs - with a particular focus on Power Macs. The list FAQ is at http://lowendmac.com/lists/g-list.shtml and our netiquette guide is at http://www.lowendmac.com/lists/netiquette.shtml To post to this group, send email to g3-5-list@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/g3-5-list
Re: Fwd: my mac don´t have correct display image
Display: So what do you see? No installations: Do you mean you can’t install programs? Which ones have you tried? Which version OS are you using? Do you have administrator rights? -- You received this message because you are a member of G-Group, a group for those using G3, G4, and G5 desktop Macs - with a particular focus on Power Macs. The list FAQ is at http://lowendmac.com/lists/g-list.shtml and our netiquette guide is at http://www.lowendmac.com/lists/netiquette.shtml To post to this group, send email to g3-5-list@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/g3-5-list
How to Auto-shutdown during sleep?
I have set up a Mac for public use. It starts up and shuts down automatically at the beginning and end of the day -- but the shutting down works only if the Mac is being used at the scheduled time. I like to have it sleep and log off after some time though, because there’s not that many people using it. How to make it shut down according to schedule even if it’s sleeping or logged off? It’s a GigE with 10.4.11 and limited-user accounts in English, German and Italian to accommodate different users; that’s why I let it log off. Any ideas? I have the feeling I’m missing an easy way to do this. An Applescript might work, but I haven’t looked into that yet. -- You received this message because you are a member of G-Group, a group for those using G3, G4, and G5 desktop Macs - with a particular focus on Power Macs. The list FAQ is at http://lowendmac.com/lists/g-list.shtml and our netiquette guide is at http://www.lowendmac.com/lists/netiquette.shtml To post to this group, send email to g3-5-list@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/g3-5-list
Re: Mac Mini Max Resolution?
I don’t know what you need the higher resolution for, or if this will work with your MacMini, but a solution might be to connect another (cheap) monitor to the second port and put the two side by side? -- You received this message because you are a member of G-Group, a group for those using G3, G4, and G5 desktop Macs - with a particular focus on Power Macs. The list FAQ is at http://lowendmac.com/lists/g-list.shtml and our netiquette guide is at http://www.lowendmac.com/lists/netiquette.shtml To post to this group, send email to g3-5-list@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/g3-5-list
Re: unconnected drives show up in DiskUtility
Try starting in safe mode: hold down the shift key while booting. Thanks Bruce. Only, I couldn’t try it out: a day or two later, when my busy friend finally gave me a chance to do a safe boot on his MacBook, I quickly checked Disk Utility before restarting, and those drives were gone. The mystery remains... -- You received this message because you are a member of G-Group, a group for those using G3, G4, and G5 desktop Macs - with a particular focus on Power Macs. The list FAQ is at http://lowendmac.com/lists/g-list.shtml and our netiquette guide is at http://www.lowendmac.com/lists/netiquette.shtml To post to this group, send email to g3-5-list@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/g3-5-list
unconnected drives show up in DiskUtility
Sorry for this question about a non-PPC-Mac, but my friend’s MacBook Pro running 10.6 couldn’t read his external harddisk and he asked me to help. I looked in DiskUtility which showed the drive but couldn’t mount it. I guess the drive is failing -- I have to test more. But the weird thing is that two other drives were shown, also unmounted, which were not connected at all. And he doesn’t have such drives even, he says. My theory: maybe he unplugged those drives without properly unmounting them, on one of his travels to exchange expertise and data? And how do I get rid of them? Is there a cache or something to clean? It seems his computer has slowed down because of this ghost drives. Just to make sure: I’m talking drives, not volumes. -- You received this message because you are a member of G-Group, a group for those using G3, G4, and G5 desktop Macs - with a particular focus on Power Macs. The list FAQ is at http://lowendmac.com/lists/g-list.shtml and our netiquette guide is at http://www.lowendmac.com/lists/netiquette.shtml To post to this group, send email to g3-5-list@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/g3-5-list
Can’t open input server
I’m new to the console, but somehow I noticed that every program I start generates an entry in console.log stating the name of the program and Can't open input server /Library/InputManagers/untitled folder. What does that mean? I’m using 10.4.11 -- You received this message because you are a member of G-Group, a group for those using G3, G4, and G5 desktop Macs - with a particular focus on Power Macs. The list FAQ is at http://lowendmac.com/lists/g-list.shtml and our netiquette guide is at http://www.lowendmac.com/lists/netiquette.shtml To post to this group, send email to g3-5-list@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/g3-5-list
Re: Child Mac user advice needed
It requires a spiffy internet connection and an up-to-date version of Flash, but I love the Sesame Street site! -- You received this message because you are a member of G-Group, a group for those using G3, G4, and G5 desktop Macs - with a particular focus on Power Macs. The list FAQ is at http://lowendmac.com/lists/g-list.shtml and our netiquette guide is at http://www.lowendmac.com/lists/netiquette.shtml To post to this group, send email to g3-5-list@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/g3-5-list
VLC VideoLan black screen
Experiment report: On a GigE I am setting up, VLC played videos with normal sound, but with a black picture. The window adjusted to the video’s aspect ratio, but remained black. After some experimenting, I think I have localized the cause: VLC does this with certain graphic cards. I don’t know the reason for this behaviour, and I couldn’t find any clues on the web, so here are the details of what I did: The GigE has a 450MHz processor from a Cube and 1.1 GB RAM. VLC is version 0.9.10 and the OS is 10.4.11. With an ATY Rage 128 Pro card (AGP) inside and an Apple 15 display connected to its ADC port, VLC played a .m4v video with a black window. QuickTime played the same video normally on the same screen. I tried other display settings with no success: the same result for resolution 640x480 and/or 256 colors -- except that with 256 colors, the window is not black but blue. With a different (better) AGP card inside, like a Radeon, VLC played the same video normally. Then I put an ATI R7000 64M DDR PCI card into the same GigE and connected another monitor to its VGA port. VLC plays normally on that one. Then I put the ATY Rage 128 Pro card back in, while keeping the PCI card. The monitors were set up as side-by-side displays. When, during playback, I moved VLC’s video window to the other monitor, it changed from black to playing or vice versa. -- You received this message because you are a member of G-Group, a group for those using G3, G4, and G5 desktop Macs - with a particular focus on Power Macs. The list FAQ is at http://lowendmac.com/lists/g-list.shtml and our netiquette guide is at http://www.lowendmac.com/lists/netiquette.shtml To post to this group, send email to g3-5-list@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/g3-5-list
Re: G4 dual boot flat screen iMac won't boot into OS 9
Jane, do you have a backup image of your system? What you write sounds like it's damaged: 1. the OS 9 drivers are there and I have started up in 9 before. But it will NOT start up in 9 now. I even had to run Disk Warrior to get it back to boot in 10.4. Everything else is working just fine. 2. I am using a LaCie USB external floppy drive that I have used on this computer before. I would try that floppy drive on another Mac to see if it works there -- but I guess you can't or you have tried that already. And back up your data; the internal harddisk may need formatting or replacement. -- You received this message because you are a member of G-Group, a group for those using G3, G4, and G5 desktop Macs - with a particular focus on Power Macs. The list FAQ is at http://lowendmac.com/lists/g-list.shtml and our netiquette guide is at http://www.lowendmac.com/lists/netiquette.shtml To post to this group, send email to g3-5-list@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/g3-5-list
Re: Need fun software for visually impaired man with MacBook Pro
Here's a list of sites offering games: http://www.7128.com/top25/topsitesblind.html Unfortunately, most are Windows games, and somehow it's a pity to use that real nice computer for Windows... Anyway, one site (from the above list) that has Mac games too: http://www.nanogames.com/gamelist.htm Also check out this site for online card games, but I think they charge for subscription: http://www.blindadrenaline.com/cardRoom/Default.aspx Here, you can try the games for 15 days before buying them: http://www.ehow.com/way_5438992_pc-games-blind.html One more thought: it may be easier/nicer to play Scrabble and Bingo without the computer, no? Here's an article: http://www.afb.org/section.asp?SectionID=40TopicID=219DocumentID=2241 and a shop: http://www.maxiaids.com/categories/27/Board-Games.html Enjoy! -- You received this message because you are a member of G-Group, a group for those using G3, G4, and G5 desktop Macs - with a particular focus on Power Macs. The list FAQ is at http://lowendmac.com/lists/g-list.shtml and our netiquette guide is at http://www.lowendmac.com/lists/netiquette.shtml To post to this group, send email to g3-5-list@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/g3-5-list
Re: Digest for g3-5-list@googlegroups.com - 2 Messages in 2 Topics
Just a thought: would a G5 videocard (AGP or PCI) with an ADC port fit in this MacPro? Or don’t such cards exist? And, if this is possible, what would be the drop in performance? -- You received this message because you are a member of G-Group, a group for those using G3, G4, and G5 desktop Macs - with a particular focus on Power Macs. The list FAQ is at http://lowendmac.com/lists/g-list.shtml and our netiquette guide is at http://www.lowendmac.com/lists/netiquette.shtml To post to this group, send email to g3-5-list@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/g3-5-list
Re: Where's the trash?
Dear Nestamicky I would like to delete them as no combination of commands can empty my trash can. Apple made that folder invisible exactly to prevent you from doing that! -- You received this message because you are a member of G-Group, a group for those using G3, G4, and G5 desktop Macs - with a particular focus on Power Macs. The list FAQ is at http://lowendmac.com/lists/g-list.shtml and our netiquette guide is at http://www.lowendmac.com/lists/netiquette.shtml To post to this group, send email to g3-5-list@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/g3-5-list
Power Mac G4 noise
Look around for a noise fix on that G4 case fan. I read it somewhere -- maybe here -- and it was basically just cushioning the fan by putting soft rings around the screws holding the fan assembly. -- You received this message because you are a member of G-Group, a group for those using G3, G4, and G5 desktop Macs - with a particular focus on Power Macs. The list FAQ is at http://lowendmac.com/lists/g-list.shtml and our netiquette guide is at http://www.lowendmac.com/lists/netiquette.shtml To post to this group, send email to g3-5-list@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/g3-5-list
Re: New G4 user - many questions
Hi Greg, I also think 10.4.11 is the best OS to use on this Mac, as long as you don’t need stuff included in Leopard of course. It’s certainly the fastest. RAM: it seems to have 512+128. I really recommend buying at least one more 512. But be careful: many modules offered are so-called high- density, meaning they don’t work in the G4s. In general, using PC hardware in Macs can be tricky, as you have noticed. Re. audio: It’s true, the Digital Audio doesn’t have any mike input! You’ll need a USB mike or some kind of hardware adapter. I have no experience with audio, but a search for powermac midi brought up a 2006 forum post where an interesting-looking card was offered (for 43$ used, incl. shipping): M-Audio Audiophile 2496 (24bit/96khz) PCI sound card with 1 midi in and 1 midi out, digital in/out, rca analog in/out. Compatible with G4/ G5 Powermacs. -- You received this message because you are a member of G-Group, a group for those using G3, G4, and G5 desktop Macs - with a particular focus on Power Macs. The list FAQ is at http://lowendmac.com/lists/g-list.shtml and our netiquette guide is at http://www.lowendmac.com/lists/netiquette.shtml To post to this group, send email to g3-5-list@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/g3-5-list
Re: Word list Generator???
I need a generator that could give me a txt file of, for example, every possible combination of the numbers 1234567890, or letters abcdefg. I might be dreaming here. (One Jonas ate up the other’s topic, but it all comes back:) This thing may be doing what you want, but you need to have Python installed for it to work: http://mac.softpedia.com/get/Utilities/Word-Permutations.shtml You could also program it yourself, e.g. in AppleScript, but I guess it’ll take forever to execute. Note that the output files get real big for longer strings: For abcdefg it’s about 40k, but for 1234567890 it’s 40MB (3.628.800 permutations). -- You received this message because you are a member of G-Group, a group for those using G3, G4, and G5 desktop Macs - with a particular focus on Power Macs. The list FAQ is at http://lowendmac.com/lists/g-list.shtml and our netiquette guide is at http://www.lowendmac.com/lists/netiquette.shtml To post to this group, send email to g3-5-list@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/g3-5-list
Re: Changing the subject: WAS: Ungrateful Apple abandons older Mac service
OK then, to finish it off my 2¢ worth :-) If your car got hit by lightning, it will probably hold a charge. But you can drive it close to a lamppost or something, and open the door a bit to just touch that thing. That should discharge the car, and you have saved Sparky’s life!!! -- You received this message because you are a member of G-Group, a group for those using G3, G4, and G5 desktop Macs - with a particular focus on Power Macs. The list FAQ is at http://lowendmac.com/lists/g-list.shtml and our netiquette guide is at http://www.lowendmac.com/lists/netiquette.shtml To post to this group, send email to g3-5-list@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/g3-5-list
Re: Unused, in box, mint 17 Studio Displays (2)
Used 17 displays go through ebay for little money. But many of those are half-broken: the fly-back transformers are very fragile, and expensive/very difficult to replace. So I’m sure your new ones are just what many users have been wishing for. Where are you located? :-) -- You received this message because you are a member of G-Group, a group for those using G3, G4, and G5 desktop Macs - with a particular focus on Power Macs. The list FAQ is at http://lowendmac.com/lists/g-list.shtml and our netiquette guide is at http://www.lowendmac.com/lists/netiquette.shtml To post to this group, send email to g3-5-list@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/g3-5-list
Re: DVD, Webcam, Pix, and Images: why are they soooo different
We’re having quite a number of topics in here now, but anyway: I’ve been asking myself whether it’s better to top post or bottom post? My guess is bottom post while deleting from the previous post the part that is not being answered. I’m sure the rules are posted somewhere, but anyone inclined to teach me? Re. DVDs playing well and video files poorly, I think the point has been clearly made now: DVDs have 4GB or more so the computer has an easy job, where video files in other formats are compressed to a quarter of the size or less and need to be worked on hard by the CPU. It was said a bit bluntly, but yes, my Digital Audio (466 MHz G4) has the same problems. Some YouTube videos don’t play smoothly and I can forget HD ones. Downloading them improves things only slightly. TV/monitor: The absolute minimum width for a monitor these days is 1024 pixels, so never get 720p if you’re going to use it as a monitor. (Even my ancient Powerbook 1400 has more than that. There are many web pages that you cannot view completely on screens narrower than 1024 pixels: the left edge is gone and you can’t scroll over.) I’m not familiar with bluray, but isn’t HD its main purpose? If so, your bluray quality would be reduced to LD by playing it on a 720p TV, I expect. If you’re using it mainly as a monitor, maybe it would be better to find a monitor with a TV input port, or see if you can get a bluray drive to build into your Mac? Anyone knows if those exist? Plasma/LCD: aren’t plasma screens usually LARGE, so less suited as a monitor, cause you’re sitting relatively close up? They also use more power and don’t last as long, from what I’ve heard. -- You received this message because you are a member of G-Group, a group for those using G3, G4, and G5 desktop Macs - with a particular focus on Power Macs. The list FAQ is at http://lowendmac.com/lists/g-list.shtml and our netiquette guide is at http://www.lowendmac.com/lists/netiquette.shtml To post to this group, send email to g3-5-list@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/g3-5-list
Re: iMac G4 800, OS X Panther vs Tiger
Tiger is smoother, as you told me thank you You already found out, but anyway: Apple has been replacing emulation code by native code up to Tiger, and that’s the fastest OS X of all. In later versions, additions have started to make things slower again. Also, a lot of software requires a minimum of 10.4.11 now, so yes, Tiger is the best, that is if you can live without Time Machine and other newer goodies. -- You received this message because you are a member of G-Group, a group for those using G3, G4, and G5 desktop Macs - with a particular focus on Power Macs. The list FAQ is at http://lowendmac.com/lists/g-list.shtml and our netiquette guide is at http://www.lowendmac.com/lists/netiquette.shtml To post to this group, send email to g3-5-list@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/g3-5-list
