Re: [Audyssey] Thursday's Out of Sight events
charles. what is all this stuff. I know some others may know but to me it just looks like spam, could you please post a bit more about what all this is, where it is and what this is all about so I can relate to it. At 03:21 p.m. 24/06/2010, you wrote: Announcement: the server will be worked on at 3:00 AM this evening, so you will not be able to get in the rooms at this time. Memory Lane: Please join Suzy this Friday evening, at 8:00 PM eastern, in the Out of Sight Presents room for a very interesting hour with Immigrant. Immigrant will be discussing growing up in Russia and her time in America as well. You won't want to miss this one! Media Madness Beginning on the 1st Monday of next month, Media Madness will be at 8:00 PM eastern instead of at 9:00 PM. Here are the events scheduled for Thursday, June 24th: Sounds of Music 8:00 PM eastern Hosted by James Location: Games Anyone Do you like music? Do you think you are pretty good at identifying songs? If you are, come in to Games Anyone tonight at 8:00 P M Eastern for Sounds of Music where your host James will play the tunes and you'll guess the title and artist. It's men against women so come on in and we'll have a great time. Out of Sight Movie 10:00 PM eastern Hosted by Jim Wilson Location: Entertainment Center Join Jim this evening as he streams a great descriptive movie. Don't forget to bring your popcorn! The Out of Sight main site is at: http://www.out-of-sight.net --- Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to gamers-unsubscr...@audyssey.org. You can make changes or update your subscription via the web, at http://audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org. All messages are archived and can be searched and read at http://www.mail-archive.com/gam...@audyssey.org. If you have any questions or concerns regarding the management of the list, please send E-mail to gamers-ow...@audyssey.org. --- Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to gamers-unsubscr...@audyssey.org. You can make changes or update your subscription via the web, at http://audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org. All messages are archived and can be searched and read at http://www.mail-archive.com/gam...@audyssey.org. If you have any questions or concerns regarding the management of the list, please send E-mail to gamers-ow...@audyssey.org.
[Audyssey] question
no i meant the extra missions how many are there --- Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to gamers-unsubscr...@audyssey.org. You can make changes or update your subscription via the web, at http://audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org. All messages are archived and can be searched and read at http://www.mail-archive.com/gam...@audyssey.org. If you have any questions or concerns regarding the management of the list, please send E-mail to gamers-ow...@audyssey.org.
[Audyssey] Facebook games
hi all: if you please, what games can a blind person play on facebook? Any ideas or experience will be highly abreciated. Cheers: Ramy Moustafa If music be the food of love, play on... Tel: 0020102221750 Personal email, msn and yahoo messengers: flutelo...@link.net skype: roma30 facebook: www.facebook.com/moustafa.ramy --- Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to gamers-unsubscr...@audyssey.org. You can make changes or update your subscription via the web, at http://audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org. All messages are archived and can be searched and read at http://www.mail-archive.com/gam...@audyssey.org. If you have any questions or concerns regarding the management of the list, please send E-mail to gamers-ow...@audyssey.org.
Re: [Audyssey] Bing's list of blind accessible games
-- From: Phil Vlasak p...@pcsgames.net Sent: Thursday, June 24, 2010 3:44 AM To: Gamers Discussion list gamers@audyssey.org Subject: [Audyssey] Bing's list of blind accessible games Hi Folks, Bing just added an entertainment section, so I checked it out http://www.bing.com I was searching for accessible games and got, Links to Accessible Games Fantastic Accessible Games and Where to Find Them! Developers of blind accessible games, updated June 7, 2010. If a new major game or new company appears I put it second on the ... www.pcsgames.net/game-co.htm · Cached pageWelcome to All inPlay. Accessible Online Games. Try Free. All inPlay creates accessible online games that allow blind, visually impaired, and fully sighted to play together as equals. The All inPlay community includes college students ... allinplay.com/home_.html · Cached pageICS - HCI: UA-Games Universally Accessible Games (UA-Games) constitute a research activity of the Human-Computer Interaction Laboratory of ICS-FORTH. In this context, we research, design and ... www.ics.forth.gr/hci/ua-games · Cached pageAccessible Computer Games Simple arcade games that contain control panels for adjusting the parameters of the game to match the ability of the players. arcess.com · Cached pageGamevial Accessible web games, online game arcade for the blind and ... Accessible web games, online game arcade for blind and partially sighted players www.accessiblewebgames.com · Cached pageAll inPlay: Accessible Online Games All inPlay creates accessible online games that allow blind, visually impaired, and fully sighted to play together as equals. The All inPlay community includes college students ... allinplay.com/games.html · Cached page2009 Accessible Game of Year - Dragon Age: Origins UPDATED AbleGamers is proud to present Bioware with the 2009 Mainstream Accessibility Award for their smash hit Dragon Age: Origins for PC with a score of 9.8 out of 10. www.ablegamers.com/game-news/2009-accessible-game-of-year-dragon-age-origins.html · Cached pageAccessible Games Welcome to Richard Turner's Home Page ... Jim Kitchen's games. If you like to play games, Jim Kitchen is a blind programmer who has done a lot of fun games for blind computer users. www.turner42.com/games.htm · Cached pageAccessible Games SV 8 CD ROM Pack These accessible versions of eight popular computer games have been developed by blind programmer Robert Betz, and completely tested by blind users, so you can be sure that every ... www.independentliving.com/prodinfo.asp?number=870205 · Cached pageGamasutra - Features - Unified Design of Universally Accessible Games ... In a follow-up to The Theory of Parallel Game Universes, Dimitris Grammenos and Anthony Savidis detail their twice-practiced design theories behind Universally Accessible Games ... www.gamasutra.com/view/feature/1764/unified_design_of_universally_.php · Cached page Then I searched for blind computer games and got, AudioGames, your resource for audiogames, games for the blind, games ... Party games for the blind This site offers a few innocent non-computer based party games which don't require vision. No drinking! Pretty Ugly Gamesound Study (PUGS) www.audiogames.net/page.php?pagefile=links · Cached pageBSC Games. Computer games for the blind and visually impaired. Specializing in creating accessible PC shareware games for the blind or visually impaired. Developer of Troopanum and Pipe. www.bscgames.com · Cached pageVI Guide's Entertainment page | Computer Games Jim is a blind computer user who writes many free speech-friendly games. ... subscribe to an online magazine that discusses computer games ... www.viguide.com/entgames.htm · Cached pageFree Computer Games for the Blind - Associated Content ... Visually impaired people will enjoy some of the free computer games available online www.associatedcontent.com/article/77003/free_computer_games_for_the_blind.html · Cached pageComputer Games For The Blind sound blaster, X-Fi ... Computer Games For The Blind: Digital Storm would like to inform its customers that not only do we build award winning gaming ... www.digitalstormonline.com/compgames.asp · Cached pageBlindgamers Suggestions from clients for future Blind-gamers games. Click here to ... list of the TOP 25 WEB SITES FOR GAMERS WHO ARE BLIND. Consistent with our mission to make computer games ... www.omninet.net.au/~irhumph/blindgamers.htm · Cached pageComputer Games for Blind Children Computer Games for Blind Children. by Greg Trapp. Editor's Note: Greg Trapp has been a staff attorney with the Protection Advocacy System of New Mexico since 1992. www.nfb.org/images/nfb/Publications/fr/fr16/Issue4/f160416.htm · Cached pageComputer Games for Students with Visual Impairments Personal Computer Systems Home Page - Computer games designed for blind gamers is our specialty. Shades of Gray on the Darkside --
Re: [Audyssey] Panning Weapon Sounds in MOTA
Hi Jim, Smile. You are right to a certain point. There are times when I would like the public's opinion such as now when I wanted to know if people would like the weapon sounds panned or not, and there are times when I don't. Unfortunately, there is no way for a potential customer to know when is a good time to offer an opinion and when isn't. Anyway, my rant is over. i have nothing more to say on this subject and I'd just assume to let things be. As to everyone I'm sorry if I sounded a bit harsh the last couple of days. I was letting my emotions getting the better of me and I took it out here rather than taking it somewhere else. HTH On 6/23/10, Jim Kitchen j...@kitchensinc.net wrote: Hi Thomas, I do not mean this to sound rude, or anything like that, but, maybe you should stop asking people what they would like to see in MOTA, or if this sounds better than that or this or that etc etc, and just finish the game as is. Then of course you could get on to games that you would like to create and hopefully those games will be great games that allot of people like and buy and of course make you happy to create and play. BFN Jim Everyone is entitled to my opinion, just ask me... j...@kitchensinc.net http://www.kitchensinc.net (440) 286-6920 Chardon Ohio USA --- Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to gamers-unsubscr...@audyssey.org. You can make changes or update your subscription via the web, at http://audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org. All messages are archived and can be searched and read at http://www.mail-archive.com/gam...@audyssey.org. If you have any questions or concerns regarding the management of the list, please send E-mail to gamers-ow...@audyssey.org. --- Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to gamers-unsubscr...@audyssey.org. You can make changes or update your subscription via the web, at http://audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org. All messages are archived and can be searched and read at http://www.mail-archive.com/gam...@audyssey.org. If you have any questions or concerns regarding the management of the list, please send E-mail to gamers-ow...@audyssey.org.
Re: [Audyssey] question
Hi, As I said a couple of days ago there are close to a hundred extra missions. I've honestly lost count of how many user created missions there are now. HTH On 6/24/10, ENES SARIBAŞ enes.sari...@gmail.com wrote: no i meant the extra missions how many are there --- Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to gamers-unsubscr...@audyssey.org. You can make changes or update your subscription via the web, at http://audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org. All messages are archived and can be searched and read at http://www.mail-archive.com/gam...@audyssey.org. If you have any questions or concerns regarding the management of the list, please send E-mail to gamers-ow...@audyssey.org. --- Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to gamers-unsubscr...@audyssey.org. You can make changes or update your subscription via the web, at http://audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org. All messages are archived and can be searched and read at http://www.mail-archive.com/gam...@audyssey.org. If you have any questions or concerns regarding the management of the list, please send E-mail to gamers-ow...@audyssey.org.
Re: [Audyssey] question
I have 92 in my lw directory, - the 17 originals pluss all the ones from gma's site. I've heard there were more kicking around but that's as many as I have, btw, if there are more, possibly someone should let david know so that he can have them as a download on gma's site with all the rest? Then again, I will frely admit I'm not great at lw, and haven't got further than mission 5 ;D. I really need to try things again and see if I can progress some more in the game. Beware the grue! Dark. - Original Message - From: Thomas Ward thomasward1...@gmail.com To: Gamers Discussion list gamers@audyssey.org Sent: Thursday, June 24, 2010 11:04 AM Subject: Re: [Audyssey] question Hi, As I said a couple of days ago there are close to a hundred extra missions. I've honestly lost count of how many user created missions there are now. HTH On 6/24/10, ENES SARIBAŞ enes.sari...@gmail.com wrote: no i meant the extra missions how many are there --- Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to gamers-unsubscr...@audyssey.org. You can make changes or update your subscription via the web, at http://audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org. All messages are archived and can be searched and read at http://www.mail-archive.com/gam...@audyssey.org. If you have any questions or concerns regarding the management of the list, please send E-mail to gamers-ow...@audyssey.org. --- Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to gamers-unsubscr...@audyssey.org. You can make changes or update your subscription via the web, at http://audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org. All messages are archived and can be searched and read at http://www.mail-archive.com/gam...@audyssey.org. If you have any questions or concerns regarding the management of the list, please send E-mail to gamers-ow...@audyssey.org. --- Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to gamers-unsubscr...@audyssey.org. You can make changes or update your subscription via the web, at http://audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org. All messages are archived and can be searched and read at http://www.mail-archive.com/gam...@audyssey.org. If you have any questions or concerns regarding the management of the list, please send E-mail to gamers-ow...@audyssey.org.
[Audyssey] Important MOTA News
Hello everyone, In light of a few things I said on the Audyssey mailing list over the past couple days or so I’ve done a lot of thinking about the future of Mysteries of the Ancients. It is no secret I’ve never been fully satisfied about it being a side-scroller, and it is also no secret I promised the community a side-scroller in place of Montezuma’s Revenge. So I thought about the problem, and I have decided upon a course of action that I believe not only will satisfy everyone involved it might actually increase the number of sales for this title too. So what’s the plan? Well, the plan is really quite simple. Beginning with beta 13 or beta 14 I’m going to offer two different downloadable versions of Mysteries of the Ancients. One in the original side-scroller format all of you currently have, and an all new 3d first-person version more like what I had originally planned on creating to begin with. This way it is up to the customer to decide which version he or she likes and can purchase either version from the USA Games store when the game is ready for sale. One of the reasons I have decided to go ahead and do this is that since MOTA beta 12 the Genesis Engine has proven itself to be fairly stable for game development now. I’ve fixed a few things here and there, updated some things, and beta 13 looks really stable. So taking that into account it really wouldn’t be that hard to go ahead and create an all new 3d first-person game using the engine as most of the functionality is already there. All of the basic functions like jumping, running, walking, etc is already in the engine. It is simply a matter of mapping the right 2d or 3d functions to the right keys. As for the game levels those would have to be redrawn for the fps version, of course, but that’s nothing compared to writing an entire engine like Genesis from scratch. I’d say within two weeks, tops, I could have a 3d fps version of the same game sitting up there on the website along side the side-scroller. So why not go ahead and do it right? The other reason is that this way will satisfy everyone including me. This allows the customer to buy and download exactly the version they want. If side-scrollers are your thing go for it. If you are like me and want a full 3d fps type format for the game that will be available too. If you want both you can buy both. The sky is the limit as they say. The only other developer I know who has tried this was Edos Interactive. Back when they released Tomb Raider Legend they released two different versions of the same game. They released a side-scroller version for mobile phones, and they also released a complete 3d third-person perspective version for the Play Station and PC. I’m sure they did it for different reasons, but the idea is that this has been done before, and apparently the marketing ploy worked. People purchased both because they could have the full 3d version on their PC and then take the mobile version of the game with them on their mobile to play on their coffee break. It was a pretty good idea as far as I am conserned and so I've decided to follow in their footsteps. If you have any questions don't hesitate to ask. I know this is surprising even for me. However, I think this is the best of both worlds as far as I am concerned. It is one of those cases where you can have your cake and eat it too. Sincerely, Thomas Ward President of USA Games Interactive --- Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to gamers-unsubscr...@audyssey.org. You can make changes or update your subscription via the web, at http://audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org. All messages are archived and can be searched and read at http://www.mail-archive.com/gam...@audyssey.org. If you have any questions or concerns regarding the management of the list, please send E-mail to gamers-ow...@audyssey.org.
Re: [Audyssey] Important MOTA News
Sounds promising indeed, looking forward to it. On 6/24/10, Thomas Ward thomasward1...@gmail.com wrote: Hello everyone, In light of a few things I said on the Audyssey mailing list over the past couple days or so I’ve done a lot of thinking about the future of Mysteries of the Ancients. It is no secret I’ve never been fully satisfied about it being a side-scroller, and it is also no secret I promised the community a side-scroller in place of Montezuma’s Revenge. So I thought about the problem, and I have decided upon a course of action that I believe not only will satisfy everyone involved it might actually increase the number of sales for this title too. So what’s the plan? Well, the plan is really quite simple. Beginning with beta 13 or beta 14 I’m going to offer two different downloadable versions of Mysteries of the Ancients. One in the original side-scroller format all of you currently have, and an all new 3d first-person version more like what I had originally planned on creating to begin with. This way it is up to the customer to decide which version he or she likes and can purchase either version from the USA Games store when the game is ready for sale. One of the reasons I have decided to go ahead and do this is that since MOTA beta 12 the Genesis Engine has proven itself to be fairly stable for game development now. I’ve fixed a few things here and there, updated some things, and beta 13 looks really stable. So taking that into account it really wouldn’t be that hard to go ahead and create an all new 3d first-person game using the engine as most of the functionality is already there. All of the basic functions like jumping, running, walking, etc is already in the engine. It is simply a matter of mapping the right 2d or 3d functions to the right keys. As for the game levels those would have to be redrawn for the fps version, of course, but that’s nothing compared to writing an entire engine like Genesis from scratch. I’d say within two weeks, tops, I could have a 3d fps version of the same game sitting up there on the website along side the side-scroller. So why not go ahead and do it right? The other reason is that this way will satisfy everyone including me. This allows the customer to buy and download exactly the version they want. If side-scrollers are your thing go for it. If you are like me and want a full 3d fps type format for the game that will be available too. If you want both you can buy both. The sky is the limit as they say. The only other developer I know who has tried this was Edos Interactive. Back when they released Tomb Raider Legend they released two different versions of the same game. They released a side-scroller version for mobile phones, and they also released a complete 3d third-person perspective version for the Play Station and PC. I’m sure they did it for different reasons, but the idea is that this has been done before, and apparently the marketing ploy worked. People purchased both because they could have the full 3d version on their PC and then take the mobile version of the game with them on their mobile to play on their coffee break. It was a pretty good idea as far as I am conserned and so I've decided to follow in their footsteps. If you have any questions don't hesitate to ask. I know this is surprising even for me. However, I think this is the best of both worlds as far as I am concerned. It is one of those cases where you can have your cake and eat it too. Sincerely, Thomas Ward President of USA Games Interactive --- Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to gamers-unsubscr...@audyssey.org. You can make changes or update your subscription via the web, at http://audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org. All messages are archived and can be searched and read at http://www.mail-archive.com/gam...@audyssey.org. If you have any questions or concerns regarding the management of the list, please send E-mail to gamers-ow...@audyssey.org. --- Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to gamers-unsubscr...@audyssey.org. You can make changes or update your subscription via the web, at http://audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org. All messages are archived and can be searched and read at http://www.mail-archive.com/gam...@audyssey.org. If you have any questions or concerns regarding the management of the list, please send E-mail to gamers-ow...@audyssey.org.
Re: [Audyssey] Important MOTA News
Well since I technically already purchased the side scroller I'd just have to purchase the 3-D version, which I very well might. The idea is definitely intriguing. Pity you didn't think of this sooner and that you couldn't have implemented it then. It might have saved you a lot of headaches. We are the Knights who say...Ni! - Original Message - From: Thomas Ward thomasward1...@gmail.com To: Gamers Discussion list gamers@audyssey.org Sent: Thursday, June 24, 2010 9:42 AM Subject: [Audyssey] Important MOTA News Hello everyone, In light of a few things I said on the Audyssey mailing list over the past couple days or so I’ve done a lot of thinking about the future of Mysteries of the Ancients. It is no secret I’ve never been fully satisfied about it being a side-scroller, and it is also no secret I promised the community a side-scroller in place of Montezuma’s Revenge. So I thought about the problem, and I have decided upon a course of action that I believe not only will satisfy everyone involved it might actually increase the number of sales for this title too. So what’s the plan? Well, the plan is really quite simple. Beginning with beta 13 or beta 14 I’m going to offer two different downloadable versions of Mysteries of the Ancients. One in the original side-scroller format all of you currently have, and an all new 3d first-person version more like what I had originally planned on creating to begin with. This way it is up to the customer to decide which version he or she likes and can purchase either version from the USA Games store when the game is ready for sale. One of the reasons I have decided to go ahead and do this is that since MOTA beta 12 the Genesis Engine has proven itself to be fairly stable for game development now. I’ve fixed a few things here and there, updated some things, and beta 13 looks really stable. So taking that into account it really wouldn’t be that hard to go ahead and create an all new 3d first-person game using the engine as most of the functionality is already there. All of the basic functions like jumping, running, walking, etc is already in the engine. It is simply a matter of mapping the right 2d or 3d functions to the right keys. As for the game levels those would have to be redrawn for the fps version, of course, but that’s nothing compared to writing an entire engine like Genesis from scratch. I’d say within two weeks, tops, I could have a 3d fps version of the same game sitting up there on the website along side the side-scroller. So why not go ahead and do it right? The other reason is that this way will satisfy everyone including me. This allows the customer to buy and download exactly the version they want. If side-scrollers are your thing go for it. If you are like me and want a full 3d fps type format for the game that will be available too. If you want both you can buy both. The sky is the limit as they say. The only other developer I know who has tried this was Edos Interactive. Back when they released Tomb Raider Legend they released two different versions of the same game. They released a side-scroller version for mobile phones, and they also released a complete 3d third-person perspective version for the Play Station and PC. I’m sure they did it for different reasons, but the idea is that this has been done before, and apparently the marketing ploy worked. People purchased both because they could have the full 3d version on their PC and then take the mobile version of the game with them on their mobile to play on their coffee break. It was a pretty good idea as far as I am conserned and so I've decided to follow in their footsteps. If you have any questions don't hesitate to ask. I know this is surprising even for me. However, I think this is the best of both worlds as far as I am concerned. It is one of those cases where you can have your cake and eat it too. Sincerely, Thomas Ward President of USA Games Interactive --- Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to gamers-unsubscr...@audyssey.org. You can make changes or update your subscription via the web, at http://audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org. All messages are archived and can be searched and read at http://www.mail-archive.com/gam...@audyssey.org. If you have any questions or concerns regarding the management of the list, please send E-mail to gamers-ow...@audyssey.org. --- Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to gamers-unsubscr...@audyssey.org. You can make changes or update your subscription via the web, at http://audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org. All messages are archived and can be searched and read at http://www.mail-archive.com/gam...@audyssey.org. If you have any questions or concerns regarding the management of the list, please send E-mail to gamers-ow...@audyssey.org.
Re: [Audyssey] question
Hi Dark, Yeah, there is more than that floating around. At one time I had over 99 missions in my Lone Wolf directory. However, I deleted several missions and re numbered several of them so I only have the ones I like I'll never forget the one someone made where they named several ships after members of the Clinton administration. Hilary Clinton, as I remember, was the main battleship. Bill Clinton's former flings were aircraft carriers. Well, let's face it, everything about that mission was totally warped. It was both funny and totally stupid at the same time. It wasn't one I kept though. On 6/24/10, dark d...@xgam.org wrote: I have 92 in my lw directory, - the 17 originals pluss all the ones from gma's site. I've heard there were more kicking around but that's as many as I have, btw, if there are more, possibly someone should let david know so that he can have them as a download on gma's site with all the rest? Then again, I will frely admit I'm not great at lw, and haven't got further than mission 5 ;D. I really need to try things again and see if I can progress some more in the game. Beware the grue! Dark. --- Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to gamers-unsubscr...@audyssey.org. You can make changes or update your subscription via the web, at http://audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org. All messages are archived and can be searched and read at http://www.mail-archive.com/gam...@audyssey.org. If you have any questions or concerns regarding the management of the list, please send E-mail to gamers-ow...@audyssey.org.
Re: [Audyssey] Important MOTA News
yeah but at least now he can show us a 3d version On Jun 24, 2010, at 4:48 PM, Bryan Peterson wrote: Well since I technically already purchased the side scroller I'd just have to purchase the 3-D version, which I very well might. The idea is definitely intriguing. Pity you didn't think of this sooner and that you couldn't have implemented it then. It might have saved you a lot of headaches. We are the Knights who say...Ni! - Original Message - From: Thomas Ward thomasward1...@gmail.com To: Gamers Discussion list gamers@audyssey.org Sent: Thursday, June 24, 2010 9:42 AM Subject: [Audyssey] Important MOTA News Hello everyone, In light of a few things I said on the Audyssey mailing list over the past couple days or so I’ve done a lot of thinking about the future of Mysteries of the Ancients. It is no secret I’ve never been fully satisfied about it being a side-scroller, and it is also no secret I promised the community a side-scroller in place of Montezuma’s Revenge. So I thought about the problem, and I have decided upon a course of action that I believe not only will satisfy everyone involved it might actually increase the number of sales for this title too. So what’s the plan? Well, the plan is really quite simple. Beginning with beta 13 or beta 14 I’m going to offer two different downloadable versions of Mysteries of the Ancients. One in the original side-scroller format all of you currently have, and an all new 3d first-person version more like what I had originally planned on creating to begin with. This way it is up to the customer to decide which version he or she likes and can purchase either version from the USA Games store when the game is ready for sale. One of the reasons I have decided to go ahead and do this is that since MOTA beta 12 the Genesis Engine has proven itself to be fairly stable for game development now. I’ve fixed a few things here and there, updated some things, and beta 13 looks really stable. So taking that into account it really wouldn’t be that hard to go ahead and create an all new 3d first-person game using the engine as most of the functionality is already there. All of the basic functions like jumping, running, walking, etc is already in the engine. It is simply a matter of mapping the right 2d or 3d functions to the right keys. As for the game levels those would have to be redrawn for the fps version, of course, but that’s nothing compared to writing an entire engine like Genesis from scratch. I’d say within two weeks, tops, I could have a 3d fps version of the same game sitting up there on the website along side the side-scroller. So why not go ahead and do it right? The other reason is that this way will satisfy everyone including me. This allows the customer to buy and download exactly the version they want. If side-scrollers are your thing go for it. If you are like me and want a full 3d fps type format for the game that will be available too. If you want both you can buy both. The sky is the limit as they say. The only other developer I know who has tried this was Edos Interactive. Back when they released Tomb Raider Legend they released two different versions of the same game. They released a side-scroller version for mobile phones, and they also released a complete 3d third-person perspective version for the Play Station and PC. I’m sure they did it for different reasons, but the idea is that this has been done before, and apparently the marketing ploy worked. People purchased both because they could have the full 3d version on their PC and then take the mobile version of the game with them on their mobile to play on their coffee break. It was a pretty good idea as far as I am conserned and so I've decided to follow in their footsteps. If you have any questions don't hesitate to ask. I know this is surprising even for me. However, I think this is the best of both worlds as far as I am concerned. It is one of those cases where you can have your cake and eat it too. Sincerely, Thomas Ward President of USA Games Interactive --- Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to gamers-unsubscr...@audyssey.org. You can make changes or update your subscription via the web, at http://audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org. All messages are archived and can be searched and read at http://www.mail-archive.com/gam...@audyssey.org. If you have any questions or concerns regarding the management of the list, please send E-mail to gamers-ow...@audyssey.org. --- Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to gamers-unsubscr...@audyssey.org. You can make changes or update your subscription via the web, at http://audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org. All messages are archived and can be searched and read at http://www.mail-archive.com/gam...@audyssey.org. If you have
Re: [Audyssey] Important MOTA News
I know. I just meant that it's unfortunate that he didn't think of this sooner and that even if he had he might not necessarily have been able to implement it right then. It might have saved him a lot of frustration and headaches. We are the Knights who say...Ni! - Original Message - From: william lomas lomaswill...@googlemail.com To: Gamers Discussion list gamers@audyssey.org Sent: Thursday, June 24, 2010 9:57 AM Subject: Re: [Audyssey] Important MOTA News yeah but at least now he can show us a 3d version On Jun 24, 2010, at 4:48 PM, Bryan Peterson wrote: Well since I technically already purchased the side scroller I'd just have to purchase the 3-D version, which I very well might. The idea is definitely intriguing. Pity you didn't think of this sooner and that you couldn't have implemented it then. It might have saved you a lot of headaches. We are the Knights who say...Ni! - Original Message - From: Thomas Ward thomasward1...@gmail.com To: Gamers Discussion list gamers@audyssey.org Sent: Thursday, June 24, 2010 9:42 AM Subject: [Audyssey] Important MOTA News Hello everyone, In light of a few things I said on the Audyssey mailing list over the past couple days or so I’ve done a lot of thinking about the future of Mysteries of the Ancients. It is no secret I’ve never been fully satisfied about it being a side-scroller, and it is also no secret I promised the community a side-scroller in place of Montezuma’s Revenge. So I thought about the problem, and I have decided upon a course of action that I believe not only will satisfy everyone involved it might actually increase the number of sales for this title too. So what’s the plan? Well, the plan is really quite simple. Beginning with beta 13 or beta 14 I’m going to offer two different downloadable versions of Mysteries of the Ancients. One in the original side-scroller format all of you currently have, and an all new 3d first-person version more like what I had originally planned on creating to begin with. This way it is up to the customer to decide which version he or she likes and can purchase either version from the USA Games store when the game is ready for sale. One of the reasons I have decided to go ahead and do this is that since MOTA beta 12 the Genesis Engine has proven itself to be fairly stable for game development now. I’ve fixed a few things here and there, updated some things, and beta 13 looks really stable. So taking that into account it really wouldn’t be that hard to go ahead and create an all new 3d first-person game using the engine as most of the functionality is already there. All of the basic functions like jumping, running, walking, etc is already in the engine. It is simply a matter of mapping the right 2d or 3d functions to the right keys. As for the game levels those would have to be redrawn for the fps version, of course, but that’s nothing compared to writing an entire engine like Genesis from scratch. I’d say within two weeks, tops, I could have a 3d fps version of the same game sitting up there on the website along side the side-scroller. So why not go ahead and do it right? The other reason is that this way will satisfy everyone including me. This allows the customer to buy and download exactly the version they want. If side-scrollers are your thing go for it. If you are like me and want a full 3d fps type format for the game that will be available too. If you want both you can buy both. The sky is the limit as they say. The only other developer I know who has tried this was Edos Interactive. Back when they released Tomb Raider Legend they released two different versions of the same game. They released a side-scroller version for mobile phones, and they also released a complete 3d third-person perspective version for the Play Station and PC. I’m sure they did it for different reasons, but the idea is that this has been done before, and apparently the marketing ploy worked. People purchased both because they could have the full 3d version on their PC and then take the mobile version of the game with them on their mobile to play on their coffee break. It was a pretty good idea as far as I am conserned and so I've decided to follow in their footsteps. If you have any questions don't hesitate to ask. I know this is surprising even for me. However, I think this is the best of both worlds as far as I am concerned. It is one of those cases where you can have your cake and eat it too. Sincerely, Thomas Ward President of USA Games Interactive --- Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to gamers-unsubscr...@audyssey.org. You can make changes or update your subscription via the web, at http://audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org. All messages are archived and can be searched and read at http://www.mail-archive.com/gam...@audyssey.org. If you have any questions or concerns regarding the management of the list, please send E-mail to
Re: [Audyssey] Important MOTA News
I think this plan is cool. My audio games for the blind group. Discussions off topic are welcome in the holidays. Talking about games is welcome, talking about computer problems is welcome when their are know holidays but that's only in easter holidays or know holidays. If you want to joyn, just send a blank email to. audiogamesfortheblind+subscr...@googlegroups.com With the subject subscribe in the subject line. Contact infermation. email: muhamme...@googlemail.com msn: muhammed123...@hotmail.co.uk Skype: muhammed.deniz Klango username. muhammed - Original Message - From: Thomas Ward thomasward1...@gmail.com To: Gamers Discussion list gamers@audyssey.org Sent: Thursday, June 24, 2010 4:42 PM Subject: [Audyssey] Important MOTA News Hello everyone, In light of a few things I said on the Audyssey mailing list over the past couple days or so I’ve done a lot of thinking about the future of Mysteries of the Ancients. It is no secret I’ve never been fully satisfied about it being a side-scroller, and it is also no secret I promised the community a side-scroller in place of Montezuma’s Revenge. So I thought about the problem, and I have decided upon a course of action that I believe not only will satisfy everyone involved it might actually increase the number of sales for this title too. So what’s the plan? Well, the plan is really quite simple. Beginning with beta 13 or beta 14 I’m going to offer two different downloadable versions of Mysteries of the Ancients. One in the original side-scroller format all of you currently have, and an all new 3d first-person version more like what I had originally planned on creating to begin with. This way it is up to the customer to decide which version he or she likes and can purchase either version from the USA Games store when the game is ready for sale. One of the reasons I have decided to go ahead and do this is that since MOTA beta 12 the Genesis Engine has proven itself to be fairly stable for game development now. I’ve fixed a few things here and there, updated some things, and beta 13 looks really stable. So taking that into account it really wouldn’t be that hard to go ahead and create an all new 3d first-person game using the engine as most of the functionality is already there. All of the basic functions like jumping, running, walking, etc is already in the engine. It is simply a matter of mapping the right 2d or 3d functions to the right keys. As for the game levels those would have to be redrawn for the fps version, of course, but that’s nothing compared to writing an entire engine like Genesis from scratch. I’d say within two weeks, tops, I could have a 3d fps version of the same game sitting up there on the website along side the side-scroller. So why not go ahead and do it right? The other reason is that this way will satisfy everyone including me. This allows the customer to buy and download exactly the version they want. If side-scrollers are your thing go for it. If you are like me and want a full 3d fps type format for the game that will be available too. If you want both you can buy both. The sky is the limit as they say. The only other developer I know who has tried this was Edos Interactive. Back when they released Tomb Raider Legend they released two different versions of the same game. They released a side-scroller version for mobile phones, and they also released a complete 3d third-person perspective version for the Play Station and PC. I’m sure they did it for different reasons, but the idea is that this has been done before, and apparently the marketing ploy worked. People purchased both because they could have the full 3d version on their PC and then take the mobile version of the game with them on their mobile to play on their coffee break. It was a pretty good idea as far as I am conserned and so I've decided to follow in their footsteps. If you have any questions don't hesitate to ask. I know this is surprising even for me. However, I think this is the best of both worlds as far as I am concerned. It is one of those cases where you can have your cake and eat it too. Sincerely, Thomas Ward President of USA Games Interactive --- Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to gamers-unsubscr...@audyssey.org. You can make changes or update your subscription via the web, at http://audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org. All messages are archived and can be searched and read at http://www.mail-archive.com/gam...@audyssey.org. If you have any questions or concerns regarding the management of the list, please send E-mail to gamers-ow...@audyssey.org. --- Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to gamers-unsubscr...@audyssey.org. You can make changes or update your subscription via the web, at http://audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org. All messages are archived and can be searched and read at
Re: [Audyssey] Important MOTA News
Hi Tom. As a fan of both styles of game this deffinately pleases me, however I do have one question. Will the 3D version feature the same enemies, traps and obstacles as the side scroller version? will we stil have harpies, centaurs etc? and will we stil be in griece? I was just wondering, sinse I know you've often spoken about carrying on the tombhunter series into further 3D adventures, whether this will be a different setting, for instance an egyptian or Aztec toomb. Beware the grue! Dark. - Original Message - From: Thomas Ward thomasward1...@gmail.com To: Gamers Discussion list gamers@audyssey.org Sent: Thursday, June 24, 2010 4:42 PM Subject: [Audyssey] Important MOTA News Hello everyone, In light of a few things I said on the Audyssey mailing list over the past couple days or so I’ve done a lot of thinking about the future of Mysteries of the Ancients. It is no secret I’ve never been fully satisfied about it being a side-scroller, and it is also no secret I promised the community a side-scroller in place of Montezuma’s Revenge. So I thought about the problem, and I have decided upon a course of action that I believe not only will satisfy everyone involved it might actually increase the number of sales for this title too. So what’s the plan? Well, the plan is really quite simple. Beginning with beta 13 or beta 14 I’m going to offer two different downloadable versions of Mysteries of the Ancients. One in the original side-scroller format all of you currently have, and an all new 3d first-person version more like what I had originally planned on creating to begin with. This way it is up to the customer to decide which version he or she likes and can purchase either version from the USA Games store when the game is ready for sale. One of the reasons I have decided to go ahead and do this is that since MOTA beta 12 the Genesis Engine has proven itself to be fairly stable for game development now. I’ve fixed a few things here and there, updated some things, and beta 13 looks really stable. So taking that into account it really wouldn’t be that hard to go ahead and create an all new 3d first-person game using the engine as most of the functionality is already there. All of the basic functions like jumping, running, walking, etc is already in the engine. It is simply a matter of mapping the right 2d or 3d functions to the right keys. As for the game levels those would have to be redrawn for the fps version, of course, but that’s nothing compared to writing an entire engine like Genesis from scratch. I’d say within two weeks, tops, I could have a 3d fps version of the same game sitting up there on the website along side the side-scroller. So why not go ahead and do it right? The other reason is that this way will satisfy everyone including me. This allows the customer to buy and download exactly the version they want. If side-scrollers are your thing go for it. If you are like me and want a full 3d fps type format for the game that will be available too. If you want both you can buy both. The sky is the limit as they say. The only other developer I know who has tried this was Edos Interactive. Back when they released Tomb Raider Legend they released two different versions of the same game. They released a side-scroller version for mobile phones, and they also released a complete 3d third-person perspective version for the Play Station and PC. I’m sure they did it for different reasons, but the idea is that this has been done before, and apparently the marketing ploy worked. People purchased both because they could have the full 3d version on their PC and then take the mobile version of the game with them on their mobile to play on their coffee break. It was a pretty good idea as far as I am conserned and so I've decided to follow in their footsteps. If you have any questions don't hesitate to ask. I know this is surprising even for me. However, I think this is the best of both worlds as far as I am concerned. It is one of those cases where you can have your cake and eat it too. Sincerely, Thomas Ward President of USA Games Interactive --- Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to gamers-unsubscr...@audyssey.org. You can make changes or update your subscription via the web, at http://audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org. All messages are archived and can be searched and read at http://www.mail-archive.com/gam...@audyssey.org. If you have any questions or concerns regarding the management of the list, please send E-mail to gamers-ow...@audyssey.org. --- Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to gamers-unsubscr...@audyssey.org. You can make changes or update your subscription via the web, at http://audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org. All messages are archived and can be searched and read at http://www.mail-archive.com/gam...@audyssey.org. If you
[Audyssey] Entombed Download Site
Hi, Where can I download the latest files for Entombed? I own the game, but am missing something to make the Bazaar work properly. Thanks. --Bill ...a crack in the teacup opens a lane to the land of the dead. --Auden --- Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to gamers-unsubscr...@audyssey.org. You can make changes or update your subscription via the web, at http://audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org. All messages are archived and can be searched and read at http://www.mail-archive.com/gam...@audyssey.org. If you have any questions or concerns regarding the management of the list, please send E-mail to gamers-ow...@audyssey.org.
Re: [Audyssey] Important MOTA News
What's the difference between 2d and 3d? My audio games for the blind group. Discussions off topic are welcome in the holidays. Talking about games is welcome, talking about computer problems is welcome when their are know holidays but that's only in easter holidays or know holidays. If you want to joyn, just send a blank email to. audiogamesfortheblind+subscr...@googlegroups.com With the subject subscribe in the subject line. Contact infermation. email: muhamme...@googlemail.com msn: muhammed123...@hotmail.co.uk Skype: muhammed.deniz Klango username. muhammed - Original Message - From: Oriol Gómez ogomez@gmail.com To: Gamers Discussion list gamers@audyssey.org Sent: Thursday, June 24, 2010 4:47 PM Subject: Re: [Audyssey] Important MOTA News Sounds promising indeed, looking forward to it. On 6/24/10, Thomas Ward thomasward1...@gmail.com wrote: Hello everyone, In light of a few things I said on the Audyssey mailing list over the past couple days or so I’ve done a lot of thinking about the future of Mysteries of the Ancients. It is no secret I’ve never been fully satisfied about it being a side-scroller, and it is also no secret I promised the community a side-scroller in place of Montezuma’s Revenge. So I thought about the problem, and I have decided upon a course of action that I believe not only will satisfy everyone involved it might actually increase the number of sales for this title too. So what’s the plan? Well, the plan is really quite simple. Beginning with beta 13 or beta 14 I’m going to offer two different downloadable versions of Mysteries of the Ancients. One in the original side-scroller format all of you currently have, and an all new 3d first-person version more like what I had originally planned on creating to begin with. This way it is up to the customer to decide which version he or she likes and can purchase either version from the USA Games store when the game is ready for sale. One of the reasons I have decided to go ahead and do this is that since MOTA beta 12 the Genesis Engine has proven itself to be fairly stable for game development now. I’ve fixed a few things here and there, updated some things, and beta 13 looks really stable. So taking that into account it really wouldn’t be that hard to go ahead and create an all new 3d first-person game using the engine as most of the functionality is already there. All of the basic functions like jumping, running, walking, etc is already in the engine. It is simply a matter of mapping the right 2d or 3d functions to the right keys. As for the game levels those would have to be redrawn for the fps version, of course, but that’s nothing compared to writing an entire engine like Genesis from scratch. I’d say within two weeks, tops, I could have a 3d fps version of the same game sitting up there on the website along side the side-scroller. So why not go ahead and do it right? The other reason is that this way will satisfy everyone including me. This allows the customer to buy and download exactly the version they want. If side-scrollers are your thing go for it. If you are like me and want a full 3d fps type format for the game that will be available too. If you want both you can buy both. The sky is the limit as they say. The only other developer I know who has tried this was Edos Interactive. Back when they released Tomb Raider Legend they released two different versions of the same game. They released a side-scroller version for mobile phones, and they also released a complete 3d third-person perspective version for the Play Station and PC. I’m sure they did it for different reasons, but the idea is that this has been done before, and apparently the marketing ploy worked. People purchased both because they could have the full 3d version on their PC and then take the mobile version of the game with them on their mobile to play on their coffee break. It was a pretty good idea as far as I am conserned and so I've decided to follow in their footsteps. If you have any questions don't hesitate to ask. I know this is surprising even for me. However, I think this is the best of both worlds as far as I am concerned. It is one of those cases where you can have your cake and eat it too. Sincerely, Thomas Ward President of USA Games Interactive --- Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to gamers-unsubscr...@audyssey.org. You can make changes or update your subscription via the web, at http://audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org. All messages are archived and can be searched and read at http://www.mail-archive.com/gam...@audyssey.org. If you have any questions or concerns regarding the management of the list, please send E-mail to gamers-ow...@audyssey.org. --- Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to gamers-unsubscr...@audyssey.org. You can make changes or update your subscription via the web, at
Re: [Audyssey] Important MOTA News
Hi Tom, sounds great, one question though is will there be a beata version of the 3-d one to try out? - Original Message - From: Thomas Ward thomasward1...@gmail.com To: Gamers Discussion list gamers@audyssey.org Sent: Thursday, June 24, 2010 4:42 PM Subject: [Audyssey] Important MOTA News Hello everyone, In light of a few things I said on the Audyssey mailing list over the past couple days or so I’ve done a lot of thinking about the future of Mysteries of the Ancients. It is no secret I’ve never been fully satisfied about it being a side-scroller, and it is also no secret I promised the community a side-scroller in place of Montezuma’s Revenge. So I thought about the problem, and I have decided upon a course of action that I believe not only will satisfy everyone involved it might actually increase the number of sales for this title too. So what’s the plan? Well, the plan is really quite simple. Beginning with beta 13 or beta 14 I’m going to offer two different downloadable versions of Mysteries of the Ancients. One in the original side-scroller format all of you currently have, and an all new 3d first-person version more like what I had originally planned on creating to begin with. This way it is up to the customer to decide which version he or she likes and can purchase either version from the USA Games store when the game is ready for sale. One of the reasons I have decided to go ahead and do this is that since MOTA beta 12 the Genesis Engine has proven itself to be fairly stable for game development now. I’ve fixed a few things here and there, updated some things, and beta 13 looks really stable. So taking that into account it really wouldn’t be that hard to go ahead and create an all new 3d first-person game using the engine as most of the functionality is already there. All of the basic functions like jumping, running, walking, etc is already in the engine. It is simply a matter of mapping the right 2d or 3d functions to the right keys. As for the game levels those would have to be redrawn for the fps version, of course, but that’s nothing compared to writing an entire engine like Genesis from scratch. I’d say within two weeks, tops, I could have a 3d fps version of the same game sitting up there on the website along side the side-scroller. So why not go ahead and do it right? The other reason is that this way will satisfy everyone including me. This allows the customer to buy and download exactly the version they want. If side-scrollers are your thing go for it. If you are like me and want a full 3d fps type format for the game that will be available too. If you want both you can buy both. The sky is the limit as they say. The only other developer I know who has tried this was Edos Interactive. Back when they released Tomb Raider Legend they released two different versions of the same game. They released a side-scroller version for mobile phones, and they also released a complete 3d third-person perspective version for the Play Station and PC. I’m sure they did it for different reasons, but the idea is that this has been done before, and apparently the marketing ploy worked. People purchased both because they could have the full 3d version on their PC and then take the mobile version of the game with them on their mobile to play on their coffee break. It was a pretty good idea as far as I am conserned and so I've decided to follow in their footsteps. If you have any questions don't hesitate to ask. I know this is surprising even for me. However, I think this is the best of both worlds as far as I am concerned. It is one of those cases where you can have your cake and eat it too. Sincerely, Thomas Ward President of USA Games Interactive --- Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to gamers-unsubscr...@audyssey.org. You can make changes or update your subscription via the web, at http://audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org. All messages are archived and can be searched and read at http://www.mail-archive.com/gam...@audyssey.org. If you have any questions or concerns regarding the management of the list, please send E-mail to gamers-ow...@audyssey.org. --- Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to gamers-unsubscr...@audyssey.org. You can make changes or update your subscription via the web, at http://audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org. All messages are archived and can be searched and read at http://www.mail-archive.com/gam...@audyssey.org. If you have any questions or concerns regarding the management of the list, please send E-mail to gamers-ow...@audyssey.org.
Re: [Audyssey] Important MOTA News
I think he would have said that if that were the case. I imagine it'll just be the same game but in 3-D. We are the Knights who say...Ni! - Original Message - From: dark d...@xgam.org To: Gamers Discussion list gamers@audyssey.org Sent: Thursday, June 24, 2010 10:19 AM Subject: Re: [Audyssey] Important MOTA News Hi Tom. As a fan of both styles of game this deffinately pleases me, however I do have one question. Will the 3D version feature the same enemies, traps and obstacles as the side scroller version? will we stil have harpies, centaurs etc? and will we stil be in griece? I was just wondering, sinse I know you've often spoken about carrying on the tombhunter series into further 3D adventures, whether this will be a different setting, for instance an egyptian or Aztec toomb. Beware the grue! Dark. - Original Message - From: Thomas Ward thomasward1...@gmail.com To: Gamers Discussion list gamers@audyssey.org Sent: Thursday, June 24, 2010 4:42 PM Subject: [Audyssey] Important MOTA News Hello everyone, In light of a few things I said on the Audyssey mailing list over the past couple days or so I’ve done a lot of thinking about the future of Mysteries of the Ancients. It is no secret I’ve never been fully satisfied about it being a side-scroller, and it is also no secret I promised the community a side-scroller in place of Montezuma’s Revenge. So I thought about the problem, and I have decided upon a course of action that I believe not only will satisfy everyone involved it might actually increase the number of sales for this title too. So what’s the plan? Well, the plan is really quite simple. Beginning with beta 13 or beta 14 I’m going to offer two different downloadable versions of Mysteries of the Ancients. One in the original side-scroller format all of you currently have, and an all new 3d first-person version more like what I had originally planned on creating to begin with. This way it is up to the customer to decide which version he or she likes and can purchase either version from the USA Games store when the game is ready for sale. One of the reasons I have decided to go ahead and do this is that since MOTA beta 12 the Genesis Engine has proven itself to be fairly stable for game development now. I’ve fixed a few things here and there, updated some things, and beta 13 looks really stable. So taking that into account it really wouldn’t be that hard to go ahead and create an all new 3d first-person game using the engine as most of the functionality is already there. All of the basic functions like jumping, running, walking, etc is already in the engine. It is simply a matter of mapping the right 2d or 3d functions to the right keys. As for the game levels those would have to be redrawn for the fps version, of course, but that’s nothing compared to writing an entire engine like Genesis from scratch. I’d say within two weeks, tops, I could have a 3d fps version of the same game sitting up there on the website along side the side-scroller. So why not go ahead and do it right? The other reason is that this way will satisfy everyone including me. This allows the customer to buy and download exactly the version they want. If side-scrollers are your thing go for it. If you are like me and want a full 3d fps type format for the game that will be available too. If you want both you can buy both. The sky is the limit as they say. The only other developer I know who has tried this was Edos Interactive. Back when they released Tomb Raider Legend they released two different versions of the same game. They released a side-scroller version for mobile phones, and they also released a complete 3d third-person perspective version for the Play Station and PC. I’m sure they did it for different reasons, but the idea is that this has been done before, and apparently the marketing ploy worked. People purchased both because they could have the full 3d version on their PC and then take the mobile version of the game with them on their mobile to play on their coffee break. It was a pretty good idea as far as I am conserned and so I've decided to follow in their footsteps. If you have any questions don't hesitate to ask. I know this is surprising even for me. However, I think this is the best of both worlds as far as I am concerned. It is one of those cases where you can have your cake and eat it too. Sincerely, Thomas Ward President of USA Games Interactive --- Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to gamers-unsubscr...@audyssey.org. You can make changes or update your subscription via the web, at http://audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org. All messages are archived and can be searched and read at http://www.mail-archive.com/gam...@audyssey.org. If you have any questions or concerns regarding the management of the list, please send E-mail to gamers-ow...@audyssey.org. --- Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org
Re: [Audyssey] Important MOTA News
Hi Bryan, Well, I really couldn't have done this any sooner as the engine itself had been going through various writes and rewrites so that anything i created would have constantly been in flux and needed to be updated. However, as it happens since I've made all the major choices for the 1.0 version of the Genesis Engine it is more or less stable enough to begin creating games with. If anything pops up such as one of the 3d functions don't work write I can go ahead and fix it, but the core of the engine is there and it is more or less ready to use now. I don't intend to rewrite the engine in some other language like Visual Basic, Java, whatever tomorrow so anything I create with it now will use the common core. Any changes to the engine should carry over to the game unless it happens to be a bug in the main source file which is where the game specific code goes. Which of course shouldn't be a problem since I have plenty of working code I can copy right over from the side-scroller version of the game and modify as needed. That's the other reason I couldn't do it before. I didn't have a tun of working, heavily tested code, I couldn't copy and paste directly into a new project and start using it such as the game menus or the NewLevel() function which sets all the object properties, etc. This way I can just copy it from one main source file directly into the next and modify accordingly. On 6/24/10, Bryan Peterson bpeterson2...@cableone.net wrote: I know. I just meant that it's unfortunate that he didn't think of this sooner and that even if he had he might not necessarily have been able to implement it right then. It might have saved him a lot of frustration and headaches. We are the Knights who say...Ni! --- Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to gamers-unsubscr...@audyssey.org. You can make changes or update your subscription via the web, at http://audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org. All messages are archived and can be searched and read at http://www.mail-archive.com/gam...@audyssey.org. If you have any questions or concerns regarding the management of the list, please send E-mail to gamers-ow...@audyssey.org.
[Audyssey] MOTA Download
I've been reading about this game forever and am finally driven to download and give it a try. What is the URL for USA Games? Thanks. --Bill ...a crack in the teacup opens a lane to the land of the dead. --Auden --- Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to gamers-unsubscr...@audyssey.org. You can make changes or update your subscription via the web, at http://audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org. All messages are archived and can be searched and read at http://www.mail-archive.com/gam...@audyssey.org. If you have any questions or concerns regarding the management of the list, please send E-mail to gamers-ow...@audyssey.org.
Re: [Audyssey] Important MOTA News
He did say from Beta 13 onward so I would assume yes. We are the Knights who say...Ni! - Original Message - From: Lori Duncan lori_dunca...@hotmail.com To: Gamers Discussion list gamers@audyssey.org Sent: Thursday, June 24, 2010 10:21 AM Subject: Re: [Audyssey] Important MOTA News Hi Tom, sounds great, one question though is will there be a beata version of the 3-d one to try out? - Original Message - From: Thomas Ward thomasward1...@gmail.com To: Gamers Discussion list gamers@audyssey.org Sent: Thursday, June 24, 2010 4:42 PM Subject: [Audyssey] Important MOTA News Hello everyone, In light of a few things I said on the Audyssey mailing list over the past couple days or so I’ve done a lot of thinking about the future of Mysteries of the Ancients. It is no secret I’ve never been fully satisfied about it being a side-scroller, and it is also no secret I promised the community a side-scroller in place of Montezuma’s Revenge. So I thought about the problem, and I have decided upon a course of action that I believe not only will satisfy everyone involved it might actually increase the number of sales for this title too. So what’s the plan? Well, the plan is really quite simple. Beginning with beta 13 or beta 14 I’m going to offer two different downloadable versions of Mysteries of the Ancients. One in the original side-scroller format all of you currently have, and an all new 3d first-person version more like what I had originally planned on creating to begin with. This way it is up to the customer to decide which version he or she likes and can purchase either version from the USA Games store when the game is ready for sale. One of the reasons I have decided to go ahead and do this is that since MOTA beta 12 the Genesis Engine has proven itself to be fairly stable for game development now. I’ve fixed a few things here and there, updated some things, and beta 13 looks really stable. So taking that into account it really wouldn’t be that hard to go ahead and create an all new 3d first-person game using the engine as most of the functionality is already there. All of the basic functions like jumping, running, walking, etc is already in the engine. It is simply a matter of mapping the right 2d or 3d functions to the right keys. As for the game levels those would have to be redrawn for the fps version, of course, but that’s nothing compared to writing an entire engine like Genesis from scratch. I’d say within two weeks, tops, I could have a 3d fps version of the same game sitting up there on the website along side the side-scroller. So why not go ahead and do it right? The other reason is that this way will satisfy everyone including me. This allows the customer to buy and download exactly the version they want. If side-scrollers are your thing go for it. If you are like me and want a full 3d fps type format for the game that will be available too. If you want both you can buy both. The sky is the limit as they say. The only other developer I know who has tried this was Edos Interactive. Back when they released Tomb Raider Legend they released two different versions of the same game. They released a side-scroller version for mobile phones, and they also released a complete 3d third-person perspective version for the Play Station and PC. I’m sure they did it for different reasons, but the idea is that this has been done before, and apparently the marketing ploy worked. People purchased both because they could have the full 3d version on their PC and then take the mobile version of the game with them on their mobile to play on their coffee break. It was a pretty good idea as far as I am conserned and so I've decided to follow in their footsteps. If you have any questions don't hesitate to ask. I know this is surprising even for me. However, I think this is the best of both worlds as far as I am concerned. It is one of those cases where you can have your cake and eat it too. Sincerely, Thomas Ward President of USA Games Interactive --- Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to gamers-unsubscr...@audyssey.org. You can make changes or update your subscription via the web, at http://audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org. All messages are archived and can be searched and read at http://www.mail-archive.com/gam...@audyssey.org. If you have any questions or concerns regarding the management of the list, please send E-mail to gamers-ow...@audyssey.org. --- Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to gamers-unsubscr...@audyssey.org. You can make changes or update your subscription via the web, at http://audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org. All messages are archived and can be searched and read at http://www.mail-archive.com/gam...@audyssey.org. If you have any questions or concerns regarding the management of the list, please send E-mail to gamers-ow...@audyssey.org. ---
Re: [Audyssey] Panning Weapon Sounds in MOTA
Jim, he has the right to ask really. The reason he asks is that so he doesn't go in the wrong direction and and peoples apinyins. And rating on the plans. My audio games for the blind group. Discussions off topic are welcome in the holidays. Talking about games is welcome, talking about computer problems is welcome when their are know holidays but that's only in easter holidays or know holidays. If you want to joyn, just send a blank email to. audiogamesfortheblind+subscr...@googlegroups.com With the subject subscribe in the subject line. Contact infermation. email: muhamme...@googlemail.com msn: muhammed123...@hotmail.co.uk Skype: muhammed.deniz Klango username. muhammed - Original Message - From: Jim Kitchen j...@kitchensinc.net To: Thomas Ward Gamers@audyssey.org Sent: Thursday, June 24, 2010 1:45 AM Subject: Re: [Audyssey] Panning Weapon Sounds in MOTA Hi Thomas, I do not mean this to sound rude, or anything like that, but, maybe you should stop asking people what they would like to see in MOTA, or if this sounds better than that or this or that etc etc, and just finish the game as is. Then of course you could get on to games that you would like to create and hopefully those games will be great games that allot of people like and buy and of course make you happy to create and play. BFN Jim Everyone is entitled to my opinion, just ask me... j...@kitchensinc.net http://www.kitchensinc.net (440) 286-6920 Chardon Ohio USA --- Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to gamers-unsubscr...@audyssey.org. You can make changes or update your subscription via the web, at http://audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org. All messages are archived and can be searched and read at http://www.mail-archive.com/gam...@audyssey.org. If you have any questions or concerns regarding the management of the list, please send E-mail to gamers-ow...@audyssey.org. --- Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to gamers-unsubscr...@audyssey.org. You can make changes or update your subscription via the web, at http://audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org. All messages are archived and can be searched and read at http://www.mail-archive.com/gam...@audyssey.org. If you have any questions or concerns regarding the management of the list, please send E-mail to gamers-ow...@audyssey.org.
Re: [Audyssey] Important MOTA News
That is what I expected, but I thought I'd ask none the less just to be certain. Beware the Grue! Dark. - Original Message - From: Bryan Peterson bpeterson2...@cableone.net To: Gamers Discussion list gamers@audyssey.org Sent: Thursday, June 24, 2010 5:21 PM Subject: Re: [Audyssey] Important MOTA News I think he would have said that if that were the case. I imagine it'll just be the same game but in 3-D. We are the Knights who say...Ni! - Original Message - From: dark d...@xgam.org To: Gamers Discussion list gamers@audyssey.org Sent: Thursday, June 24, 2010 10:19 AM Subject: Re: [Audyssey] Important MOTA News Hi Tom. As a fan of both styles of game this deffinately pleases me, however I do have one question. Will the 3D version feature the same enemies, traps and obstacles as the side scroller version? will we stil have harpies, centaurs etc? and will we stil be in griece? I was just wondering, sinse I know you've often spoken about carrying on the tombhunter series into further 3D adventures, whether this will be a different setting, for instance an egyptian or Aztec toomb. Beware the grue! Dark. - Original Message - From: Thomas Ward thomasward1...@gmail.com To: Gamers Discussion list gamers@audyssey.org Sent: Thursday, June 24, 2010 4:42 PM Subject: [Audyssey] Important MOTA News Hello everyone, In light of a few things I said on the Audyssey mailing list over the past couple days or so I’ve done a lot of thinking about the future of Mysteries of the Ancients. It is no secret I’ve never been fully satisfied about it being a side-scroller, and it is also no secret I promised the community a side-scroller in place of Montezuma’s Revenge. So I thought about the problem, and I have decided upon a course of action that I believe not only will satisfy everyone involved it might actually increase the number of sales for this title too. So what’s the plan? Well, the plan is really quite simple. Beginning with beta 13 or beta 14 I’m going to offer two different downloadable versions of Mysteries of the Ancients. One in the original side-scroller format all of you currently have, and an all new 3d first-person version more like what I had originally planned on creating to begin with. This way it is up to the customer to decide which version he or she likes and can purchase either version from the USA Games store when the game is ready for sale. One of the reasons I have decided to go ahead and do this is that since MOTA beta 12 the Genesis Engine has proven itself to be fairly stable for game development now. I’ve fixed a few things here and there, updated some things, and beta 13 looks really stable. So taking that into account it really wouldn’t be that hard to go ahead and create an all new 3d first-person game using the engine as most of the functionality is already there. All of the basic functions like jumping, running, walking, etc is already in the engine. It is simply a matter of mapping the right 2d or 3d functions to the right keys. As for the game levels those would have to be redrawn for the fps version, of course, but that’s nothing compared to writing an entire engine like Genesis from scratch. I’d say within two weeks, tops, I could have a 3d fps version of the same game sitting up there on the website along side the side-scroller. So why not go ahead and do it right? The other reason is that this way will satisfy everyone including me. This allows the customer to buy and download exactly the version they want. If side-scrollers are your thing go for it. If you are like me and want a full 3d fps type format for the game that will be available too. If you want both you can buy both. The sky is the limit as they say. The only other developer I know who has tried this was Edos Interactive. Back when they released Tomb Raider Legend they released two different versions of the same game. They released a side-scroller version for mobile phones, and they also released a complete 3d third-person perspective version for the Play Station and PC. I’m sure they did it for different reasons, but the idea is that this has been done before, and apparently the marketing ploy worked. People purchased both because they could have the full 3d version on their PC and then take the mobile version of the game with them on their mobile to play on their coffee break. It was a pretty good idea as far as I am conserned and so I've decided to follow in their footsteps. If you have any questions don't hesitate to ask. I know this is surprising even for me. However, I think this is the best of both worlds as far as I am concerned. It is one of those cases where you can have your cake and eat it too. Sincerely, Thomas Ward President of USA Games Interactive --- Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to gamers-unsubscr...@audyssey.org. You can make changes or update your subscription via the web, at
Re: [Audyssey] MOTA Download
http://www.usagamesinteractive.com My audio games for the blind group. Discussions off topic are welcome in the holidays. Talking about games is welcome, talking about computer problems is welcome when their are know holidays but that's only in easter holidays or know holidays. If you want to joyn, just send a blank email to. audiogamesfortheblind+subscr...@googlegroups.com With the subject subscribe in the subject line. Contact infermation. email: muhamme...@googlemail.com msn: muhammed123...@hotmail.co.uk Skype: muhammed.deniz Klango username. muhammed - Original Message - From: William L. Houts cad...@q.com To: Gamers Discussion list gamers@audyssey.org Sent: Thursday, June 24, 2010 5:23 PM Subject: [Audyssey] MOTA Download I've been reading about this game forever and am finally driven to download and give it a try. What is the URL for USA Games? Thanks. --Bill ...a crack in the teacup opens a lane to the land of the dead. --Auden --- Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to gamers-unsubscr...@audyssey.org. You can make changes or update your subscription via the web, at http://audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org. All messages are archived and can be searched and read at http://www.mail-archive.com/gam...@audyssey.org. If you have any questions or concerns regarding the management of the list, please send E-mail to gamers-ow...@audyssey.org. --- Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to gamers-unsubscr...@audyssey.org. You can make changes or update your subscription via the web, at http://audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org. All messages are archived and can be searched and read at http://www.mail-archive.com/gam...@audyssey.org. If you have any questions or concerns regarding the management of the list, please send E-mail to gamers-ow...@audyssey.org.
Re: [Audyssey] MOTA Download
www.usagamesinteractive.com. We are the Knights who say...Ni! - Original Message - From: William L. Houts cad...@q.com To: Gamers Discussion list gamers@audyssey.org Sent: Thursday, June 24, 2010 10:23 AM Subject: [Audyssey] MOTA Download I've been reading about this game forever and am finally driven to download and give it a try. What is the URL for USA Games? Thanks. --Bill ...a crack in the teacup opens a lane to the land of the dead. --Auden --- Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to gamers-unsubscr...@audyssey.org. You can make changes or update your subscription via the web, at http://audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org. All messages are archived and can be searched and read at http://www.mail-archive.com/gam...@audyssey.org. If you have any questions or concerns regarding the management of the list, please send E-mail to gamers-ow...@audyssey.org. --- Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to gamers-unsubscr...@audyssey.org. You can make changes or update your subscription via the web, at http://audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org. All messages are archived and can be searched and read at http://www.mail-archive.com/gam...@audyssey.org. If you have any questions or concerns regarding the management of the list, please send E-mail to gamers-ow...@audyssey.org.
Re: [Audyssey] Important MOTA News
There is one dimentions difference ;D. Thus in the current version of mota you can move left and right and up and down. A 3D game would work more like audio quake, you could move in any and all directions, up down, forward back, left right etc as in something liek audio quake with the stairs and multiple levels. To understand the difference more formally, imagine pushing a piece of paper on the surface of a table. you can move it only up down left or right without taking it off the table, ie, only in two dimentions. Now, imagine picking the paper up, you can move it all the same ways as before, but also up and down in the air, ie, in 3 dementions. this is the basic idea. Hope this explains things. Depending upon how much into some of the crazier areas of physics and abstract mathematics you want to go there are suggestions for various other dementions(one theory I heard even had 26!), but for game developement 3 is enough, well four counting time ;D. Beware the grue! Dark. - Original Message - From: Muhammed Deniz muhamme...@googlemail.com To: Gamers Discussion list gamers@audyssey.org Sent: Thursday, June 24, 2010 5:19 PM Subject: Re: [Audyssey] Important MOTA News What's the difference between 2d and 3d? My audio games for the blind group. Discussions off topic are welcome in the holidays. Talking about games is welcome, talking about computer problems is welcome when their are know holidays but that's only in easter holidays or know holidays. If you want to joyn, just send a blank email to. audiogamesfortheblind+subscr...@googlegroups.com With the subject subscribe in the subject line. Contact infermation. email: muhamme...@googlemail.com msn: muhammed123...@hotmail.co.uk Skype: muhammed.deniz Klango username. muhammed - Original Message - From: Oriol Gómez ogomez@gmail.com To: Gamers Discussion list gamers@audyssey.org Sent: Thursday, June 24, 2010 4:47 PM Subject: Re: [Audyssey] Important MOTA News Sounds promising indeed, looking forward to it. On 6/24/10, Thomas Ward thomasward1...@gmail.com wrote: Hello everyone, In light of a few things I said on the Audyssey mailing list over the past couple days or so I’ve done a lot of thinking about the future of Mysteries of the Ancients. It is no secret I’ve never been fully satisfied about it being a side-scroller, and it is also no secret I promised the community a side-scroller in place of Montezuma’s Revenge. So I thought about the problem, and I have decided upon a course of action that I believe not only will satisfy everyone involved it might actually increase the number of sales for this title too. So what’s the plan? Well, the plan is really quite simple. Beginning with beta 13 or beta 14 I’m going to offer two different downloadable versions of Mysteries of the Ancients. One in the original side-scroller format all of you currently have, and an all new 3d first-person version more like what I had originally planned on creating to begin with. This way it is up to the customer to decide which version he or she likes and can purchase either version from the USA Games store when the game is ready for sale. One of the reasons I have decided to go ahead and do this is that since MOTA beta 12 the Genesis Engine has proven itself to be fairly stable for game development now. I’ve fixed a few things here and there, updated some things, and beta 13 looks really stable. So taking that into account it really wouldn’t be that hard to go ahead and create an all new 3d first-person game using the engine as most of the functionality is already there. All of the basic functions like jumping, running, walking, etc is already in the engine. It is simply a matter of mapping the right 2d or 3d functions to the right keys. As for the game levels those would have to be redrawn for the fps version, of course, but that’s nothing compared to writing an entire engine like Genesis from scratch. I’d say within two weeks, tops, I could have a 3d fps version of the same game sitting up there on the website along side the side-scroller. So why not go ahead and do it right? The other reason is that this way will satisfy everyone including me. This allows the customer to buy and download exactly the version they want. If side-scrollers are your thing go for it. If you are like me and want a full 3d fps type format for the game that will be available too. If you want both you can buy both. The sky is the limit as they say. The only other developer I know who has tried this was Edos Interactive. Back when they released Tomb Raider Legend they released two different versions of the same game. They released a side-scroller version for mobile phones, and they also released a complete 3d third-person perspective version for the Play Station and PC. I’m sure they did it for different reasons, but the idea is that this has been done before, and apparently the marketing ploy worked. People purchased both because they could
[Audyssey] Texas Vocoder
Hello all of you here on the list. I've made a small audio sample and I want you to tell me where reFX took these samples from, or in in've heard them before. I've been using Samplitude for the recording and Cubase where I have nexus loadet up as a VST Instrument. Download the file at: http://dl.dropbox.com/u/6997970/vocoder.mp3 --- Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to gamers-unsubscr...@audyssey.org. You can make changes or update your subscription via the web, at http://audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org. All messages are archived and can be searched and read at http://www.mail-archive.com/gam...@audyssey.org. If you have any questions or concerns regarding the management of the list, please send E-mail to gamers-ow...@audyssey.org.
Re: [Audyssey] Important MOTA News
Thank you thomas. I like side scrollers, but I also like 3d action also. -- From: Thomas Ward thomasward1...@gmail.com Sent: Thursday, June 24, 2010 3:42 PM To: Gamers Discussion list gamers@audyssey.org Subject: [Audyssey] Important MOTA News Hello everyone, In light of a few things I said on the Audyssey mailing list over the past couple days or so I’ve done a lot of thinking about the future of Mysteries of the Ancients. It is no secret I’ve never been fully satisfied about it being a side-scroller, and it is also no secret I promised the community a side-scroller in place of Montezuma’s Revenge. So I thought about the problem, and I have decided upon a course of action that I believe not only will satisfy everyone involved it might actually increase the number of sales for this title too. So what’s the plan? Well, the plan is really quite simple. Beginning with beta 13 or beta 14 I’m going to offer two different downloadable versions of Mysteries of the Ancients. One in the original side-scroller format all of you currently have, and an all new 3d first-person version more like what I had originally planned on creating to begin with. This way it is up to the customer to decide which version he or she likes and can purchase either version from the USA Games store when the game is ready for sale. One of the reasons I have decided to go ahead and do this is that since MOTA beta 12 the Genesis Engine has proven itself to be fairly stable for game development now. I’ve fixed a few things here and there, updated some things, and beta 13 looks really stable. So taking that into account it really wouldn’t be that hard to go ahead and create an all new 3d first-person game using the engine as most of the functionality is already there. All of the basic functions like jumping, running, walking, etc is already in the engine. It is simply a matter of mapping the right 2d or 3d functions to the right keys. As for the game levels those would have to be redrawn for the fps version, of course, but that’s nothing compared to writing an entire engine like Genesis from scratch. I’d say within two weeks, tops, I could have a 3d fps version of the same game sitting up there on the website along side the side-scroller. So why not go ahead and do it right? The other reason is that this way will satisfy everyone including me. This allows the customer to buy and download exactly the version they want. If side-scrollers are your thing go for it. If you are like me and want a full 3d fps type format for the game that will be available too. If you want both you can buy both. The sky is the limit as they say. The only other developer I know who has tried this was Edos Interactive. Back when they released Tomb Raider Legend they released two different versions of the same game. They released a side-scroller version for mobile phones, and they also released a complete 3d third-person perspective version for the Play Station and PC. I’m sure they did it for different reasons, but the idea is that this has been done before, and apparently the marketing ploy worked. People purchased both because they could have the full 3d version on their PC and then take the mobile version of the game with them on their mobile to play on their coffee break. It was a pretty good idea as far as I am conserned and so I've decided to follow in their footsteps. If you have any questions don't hesitate to ask. I know this is surprising even for me. However, I think this is the best of both worlds as far as I am concerned. It is one of those cases where you can have your cake and eat it too. Sincerely, Thomas Ward President of USA Games Interactive --- Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to gamers-unsubscr...@audyssey.org. You can make changes or update your subscription via the web, at http://audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org. All messages are archived and can be searched and read at http://www.mail-archive.com/gam...@audyssey.org. If you have any questions or concerns regarding the management of the list, please send E-mail to gamers-ow...@audyssey.org. --- Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to gamers-unsubscr...@audyssey.org. You can make changes or update your subscription via the web, at http://audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org. All messages are archived and can be searched and read at http://www.mail-archive.com/gam...@audyssey.org. If you have any questions or concerns regarding the management of the list, please send E-mail to gamers-ow...@audyssey.org.
Re: [Audyssey] MOTA Download
Thanks for the heads up. It looks to be a tasty game indeed. Now I just need to know how to access swords, torches and the like. Hope I'm not being a pest, but I suppose everyone has gone through this. cheers, Bill - Original Message - From: Bryan Peterson bpeterson2...@cableone.net To: Gamers Discussion list gamers@audyssey.org Sent: Thursday, June 24, 2010 9:32 AM Subject: Re: [Audyssey] MOTA Download www.usagamesinteractive.com. We are the Knights who say...Ni! - Original Message - From: William L. Houts cad...@q.com To: Gamers Discussion list gamers@audyssey.org Sent: Thursday, June 24, 2010 10:23 AM Subject: [Audyssey] MOTA Download I've been reading about this game forever and am finally driven to download and give it a try. What is the URL for USA Games? Thanks. --Bill ...a crack in the teacup opens a lane to the land of the dead. --Auden --- Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to gamers-unsubscr...@audyssey.org. You can make changes or update your subscription via the web, at http://audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org. All messages are archived and can be searched and read at http://www.mail-archive.com/gam...@audyssey.org. If you have any questions or concerns regarding the management of the list, please send E-mail to gamers-ow...@audyssey.org. --- Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to gamers-unsubscr...@audyssey.org. You can make changes or update your subscription via the web, at http://audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org. All messages are archived and can be searched and read at http://www.mail-archive.com/gam...@audyssey.org. If you have any questions or concerns regarding the management of the list, please send E-mail to gamers-ow...@audyssey.org. --- Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to gamers-unsubscr...@audyssey.org. You can make changes or update your subscription via the web, at http://audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org. All messages are archived and can be searched and read at http://www.mail-archive.com/gam...@audyssey.org. If you have any questions or concerns regarding the management of the list, please send E-mail to gamers-ow...@audyssey.org.
Re: [Audyssey] Important MOTA News
Hi Dark, Oh, its going to essentially be the same game. It will have the same story, same enemies, traps, puzzles, whatever. I could even make the 3d levels similar to there 2d counterparts simply by taking the same levels and simply redrawing each room as a true 3d object complete with four walls, a floor, and a celing. Instead of a 2d room that is say 20 by 8 I could just redraw that room to be 20 by 20 by 8 making it 3d. In other words instead of just length and height each room will have a length, width, and height attribute. The essential difference between the two versions is going to be 3d specific features that you couldn't get in a 2d only game. For example, obviously since the fps version is in 3d that offers you a lot more freedom of movement. Instead of just being able to walk left and right as well as climb up and down on ropes and things the fps version will allow you to move foward, backward, left, right as well as climb up and down on ropes, ladders, staircases, whatever. As I said far more freedom of movement. Targeting will also be a bit different than you are use too. Since we are talking about a truely 3d environment that means aiming your weapons will be a bit trickier since the game will have to calculate a true 3d vector from the player character to the target. For that reason you may have to use the page up key to raise your weapon to target a flying harpy, or use the page down key to lower your weapon in order to target an enemy monster lower to the ground. This is a feature of several mainstream games, and will be quite new to many accessible gamers I think, but it is more realistic and shouldn't be too hard to get use to. As far as any other differences such as weather or not I'll keep the random monsters and items I haven't decided. As I said a couple of days ago there are pros and cons with both. If I keep it the games will definitely be different from game to game which is good. If I get rid of it then I have to figure out where to put everything and rebalance the game which could be time consuming. So I'll cross that bridge when I come to it. In regards to more Tomb Hunter games I definitely plan on it. However, the 3d fps game isn't going to be based on any of the stories I am creating for Tomb Hunter II and so forth. For one thing I haven't purchased all the sounds I need for Tomb Hunter II, and nor would I create two different games seeing as the fps version is merely going to be Mysteries of the Ancients done my way and the side-scroller is the 2d version many people wanted to replace Montezuma's Revenge. Cheers! On 6/24/10, dark d...@xgam.org wrote: Hi Tom. As a fan of both styles of game this deffinately pleases me, however I do have one question. Will the 3D version feature the same enemies, traps and obstacles as the side scroller version? will we stil have harpies, centaurs etc? and will we stil be in griece? I was just wondering, sinse I know you've often spoken about carrying on the tombhunter series into further 3D adventures, whether this will be a different setting, for instance an egyptian or Aztec toomb. Beware the grue! Dark. --- Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to gamers-unsubscr...@audyssey.org. You can make changes or update your subscription via the web, at http://audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org. All messages are archived and can be searched and read at http://www.mail-archive.com/gam...@audyssey.org. If you have any questions or concerns regarding the management of the list, please send E-mail to gamers-ow...@audyssey.org.
Re: [Audyssey] Important MOTA News
Hello. Was playing the demo of moda. When I approach the casm, I take one step but after that step, I try to jump and I always end up getting killed. Just wondering what I'm doing wrong? -- From: RONALD HOPKINS rrhopki...@verizon.net Sent: Thursday, June 24, 2010 4:49 PM To: Gamers Discussion list gamers@audyssey.org Subject: Re: [Audyssey] Important MOTA News Thank you thomas. I like side scrollers, but I also like 3d action also. -- From: Thomas Ward thomasward1...@gmail.com Sent: Thursday, June 24, 2010 3:42 PM To: Gamers Discussion list gamers@audyssey.org Subject: [Audyssey] Important MOTA News Hello everyone, In light of a few things I said on the Audyssey mailing list over the past couple days or so I’ve done a lot of thinking about the future of Mysteries of the Ancients. It is no secret I’ve never been fully satisfied about it being a side-scroller, and it is also no secret I promised the community a side-scroller in place of Montezuma’s Revenge. So I thought about the problem, and I have decided upon a course of action that I believe not only will satisfy everyone involved it might actually increase the number of sales for this title too. So what’s the plan? Well, the plan is really quite simple. Beginning with beta 13 or beta 14 I’m going to offer two different downloadable versions of Mysteries of the Ancients. One in the original side-scroller format all of you currently have, and an all new 3d first-person version more like what I had originally planned on creating to begin with. This way it is up to the customer to decide which version he or she likes and can purchase either version from the USA Games store when the game is ready for sale. One of the reasons I have decided to go ahead and do this is that since MOTA beta 12 the Genesis Engine has proven itself to be fairly stable for game development now. I’ve fixed a few things here and there, updated some things, and beta 13 looks really stable. So taking that into account it really wouldn’t be that hard to go ahead and create an all new 3d first-person game using the engine as most of the functionality is already there. All of the basic functions like jumping, running, walking, etc is already in the engine. It is simply a matter of mapping the right 2d or 3d functions to the right keys. As for the game levels those would have to be redrawn for the fps version, of course, but that’s nothing compared to writing an entire engine like Genesis from scratch. I’d say within two weeks, tops, I could have a 3d fps version of the same game sitting up there on the website along side the side-scroller. So why not go ahead and do it right? The other reason is that this way will satisfy everyone including me. This allows the customer to buy and download exactly the version they want. If side-scrollers are your thing go for it. If you are like me and want a full 3d fps type format for the game that will be available too. If you want both you can buy both. The sky is the limit as they say. The only other developer I know who has tried this was Edos Interactive. Back when they released Tomb Raider Legend they released two different versions of the same game. They released a side-scroller version for mobile phones, and they also released a complete 3d third-person perspective version for the Play Station and PC. I’m sure they did it for different reasons, but the idea is that this has been done before, and apparently the marketing ploy worked. People purchased both because they could have the full 3d version on their PC and then take the mobile version of the game with them on their mobile to play on their coffee break. It was a pretty good idea as far as I am conserned and so I've decided to follow in their footsteps. If you have any questions don't hesitate to ask. I know this is surprising even for me. However, I think this is the best of both worlds as far as I am concerned. It is one of those cases where you can have your cake and eat it too. Sincerely, Thomas Ward President of USA Games Interactive --- Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to gamers-unsubscr...@audyssey.org. You can make changes or update your subscription via the web, at http://audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org. All messages are archived and can be searched and read at http://www.mail-archive.com/gam...@audyssey.org. If you have any questions or concerns regarding the management of the list, please send E-mail to gamers-ow...@audyssey.org. --- Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to gamers-unsubscr...@audyssey.org. You can make changes or update your subscription via the web, at http://audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org. All messages are archived and can be searched and read at http://www.mail-archive.com/gam...@audyssey.org. If you
Re: [Audyssey] Texas Vocoder
Hi Hayri, It sounds like the toy Speak 'n Spell sold long ago. It appears in the Toy Story movies and in ET the extraterrestrial. Phil - Original Message - From: Hayri Tulumcu ha...@ka-net.dk To: Gamers@audyssey.org Sent: Thursday, June 24, 2010 12:48 PM Subject: [Audyssey] Texas Vocoder Hello all of you here on the list. I've made a small audio sample and I want you to tell me where reFX took these samples from, or in in've heard them before. I've been using Samplitude for the recording and Cubase where I have nexus loadet up as a VST Instrument. Download the file at: http://dl.dropbox.com/u/6997970/vocoder.mp3 --- Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to gamers-unsubscr...@audyssey.org. You can make changes or update your subscription via the web, at http://audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org. All messages are archived and can be searched and read at http://www.mail-archive.com/gam...@audyssey.org. If you have any questions or concerns regarding the management of the list, please send E-mail to gamers-ow...@audyssey.org. No virus found in this incoming message. Checked by AVG - www.avg.com Version: 9.0.829 / Virus Database: 271.1.1/2960 - Release Date: 06/24/10 02:35:00 --- Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to gamers-unsubscr...@audyssey.org. You can make changes or update your subscription via the web, at http://audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org. All messages are archived and can be searched and read at http://www.mail-archive.com/gam...@audyssey.org. If you have any questions or concerns regarding the management of the list, please send E-mail to gamers-ow...@audyssey.org.
Re: [Audyssey] Important MOTA News
Hi Muhammed, Well, from a geometric point of view there is a considerable difference between 2d and 3d. The best way to think of this is what's the difference between a 2d shape like a square and a 3d shape like a cube? Well, a square only has four sides. It has a left, right, top, and bottom side. However, it is completely flat. A cube on the other hand has a total of six sides. It has a left, right, front, back, top, and a bottom side. Therefore it is a true 3d object. When we talk about 2d verses 3d with a game like MOTA we are talking about how the level is presented. a 2d room only has two walls, a floor and a celing, and therefore only has four possible directions of movement like left, right, up, or down. A 3d room however is a cube with four walls, a floor, and a celing and offers six major directions of movement like left, right, forward, backward, up, or down plus everything in between. Since the real world happens to be in 3d a game that uses 3d levels would obviously be more natural for a gamer and be much more realistic. It allows for a lot more possibilities not only in movement but in drawing the levels more like they would be in real life. Does that make sense? Cheers! On 6/24/10, Muhammed Deniz muhamme...@googlemail.com wrote: What's the difference between 2d and 3d? --- Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to gamers-unsubscr...@audyssey.org. You can make changes or update your subscription via the web, at http://audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org. All messages are archived and can be searched and read at http://www.mail-archive.com/gam...@audyssey.org. If you have any questions or concerns regarding the management of the list, please send E-mail to gamers-ow...@audyssey.org.
Re: [Audyssey] Important MOTA News
Hi, Remember to holster or sheath any weapons you might be holding. Those will keep you from reaching the other ledge. HTH On 6/24/10, RONALD HOPKINS rrhopki...@verizon.net wrote: Hello. Was playing the demo of moda. When I approach the casm, I take one step but after that step, I try to jump and I always end up getting killed. Just wondering what I'm doing wrong? --- Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to gamers-unsubscr...@audyssey.org. You can make changes or update your subscription via the web, at http://audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org. All messages are archived and can be searched and read at http://www.mail-archive.com/gam...@audyssey.org. If you have any questions or concerns regarding the management of the list, please send E-mail to gamers-ow...@audyssey.org.
Re: [Audyssey] Important MOTA News
Hi Lori, Absolutely. I just need to redraw the levels for the fps version, and test to make sure all the 3d specific code works as intended. I've only tested the functions used in the side-scroller and the fps version will use more 3d specific functions that weren't required by the side-scroller version like the ability to walk foward and backward or place a random object somewhere in a 3d area. On 6/24/10, Lori Duncan lori_dunca...@hotmail.com wrote: Hi Tom, sounds great, one question though is will there be a beata version of the 3-d one to try out? --- Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to gamers-unsubscr...@audyssey.org. You can make changes or update your subscription via the web, at http://audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org. All messages are archived and can be searched and read at http://www.mail-archive.com/gam...@audyssey.org. If you have any questions or concerns regarding the management of the list, please send E-mail to gamers-ow...@audyssey.org.
Re: [Audyssey] Important MOTA News
Hi Tomas, Awsome! I've learned to enjoy FPS style games quite a bit more after getting through SOD. I'll probably end up buying both myself. Best Regards, Hayden Best Regards, Hayden -Original Message- From: gamers-boun...@audyssey.org [mailto:gamers-boun...@audyssey.org] On Behalf Of Thomas Ward Sent: Thursday, June 24, 2010 1:05 PM To: Lori Duncan; Gamers Discussion list Subject: Re: [Audyssey] Important MOTA News Hi Lori, Absolutely. I just need to redraw the levels for the fps version, and test to make sure all the 3d specific code works as intended. I've only tested the functions used in the side-scroller and the fps version will use more 3d specific functions that weren't required by the side-scroller version like the ability to walk foward and backward or place a random object somewhere in a 3d area. On 6/24/10, Lori Duncan lori_dunca...@hotmail.com wrote: Hi Tom, sounds great, one question though is will there be a beata version of the 3-d one to try out? --- Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to gamers-unsubscr...@audyssey.org. You can make changes or update your subscription via the web, at http://audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org. All messages are archived and can be searched and read at http://www.mail-archive.com/gam...@audyssey.org. If you have any questions or concerns regarding the management of the list, please send E-mail to gamers-ow...@audyssey.org. --- Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to gamers-unsubscr...@audyssey.org. You can make changes or update your subscription via the web, at http://audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org. All messages are archived and can be searched and read at http://www.mail-archive.com/gam...@audyssey.org. If you have any questions or concerns regarding the management of the list, please send E-mail to gamers-ow...@audyssey.org.
Re: [Audyssey] Important MOTA News
tom that sounds cool. especially if you can have those installed along side the other, I'd like both. however if the reg code could work for both or something that would rock. I like both types. At 03:42 a.m. 25/06/2010, you wrote: Hello everyone, In light of a few things I said on the Audyssey mailing list over the past couple days or so I've done a lot of thinking about the future of Mysteries of the Ancients. It is no secret I've never been fully satisfied about it being a side-scroller, and it is also no secret I promised the community a side-scroller in place of Montezuma's Revenge. So I thought about the problem, and I have decided upon a course of action that I believe not only will satisfy everyone involved it might actually increase the number of sales for this title too. So what's the plan? Well, the plan is really quite simple. Beginning with beta 13 or beta 14 I'm going to offer two different downloadable versions of Mysteries of the Ancients. One in the original side-scroller format all of you currently have, and an all new 3d first-person version more like what I had originally planned on creating to begin with. This way it is up to the customer to decide which version he or she likes and can purchase either version from the USA Games store when the game is ready for sale. One of the reasons I have decided to go ahead and do this is that since MOTA beta 12 the Genesis Engine has proven itself to be fairly stable for game development now. I've fixed a few things here and there, updated some things, and beta 13 looks really stable. So taking that into account it really wouldn't be that hard to go ahead and create an all new 3d first-person game using the engine as most of the functionality is already there. All of the basic functions like jumping, running, walking, etc is already in the engine. It is simply a matter of mapping the right 2d or 3d functions to the right keys. As for the game levels those would have to be redrawn for the fps version, of course, but that's nothing compared to writing an entire engine like Genesis from scratch. I'd say within two weeks, tops, I could have a 3d fps version of the same game sitting up there on the website along side the side-scroller. So why not go ahead and do it right? The other reason is that this way will satisfy everyone including me. This allows the customer to buy and download exactly the version they want. If side-scrollers are your thing go for it. If you are like me and want a full 3d fps type format for the game that will be available too. If you want both you can buy both. The sky is the limit as they say. The only other developer I know who has tried this was Edos Interactive. Back when they released Tomb Raider Legend they released two different versions of the same game. They released a side-scroller version for mobile phones, and they also released a complete 3d third-person perspective version for the Play Station and PC. I'm sure they did it for different reasons, but the idea is that this has been done before, and apparently the marketing ploy worked. People purchased both because they could have the full 3d version on their PC and then take the mobile version of the game with them on their mobile to play on their coffee break. It was a pretty good idea as far as I am conserned and so I've decided to follow in their footsteps. If you have any questions don't hesitate to ask. I know this is surprising even for me. However, I think this is the best of both worlds as far as I am concerned. It is one of those cases where you can have your cake and eat it too. Sincerely, Thomas Ward President of USA Games Interactive --- Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to gamers-unsubscr...@audyssey.org. You can make changes or update your subscription via the web, at http://audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org. All messages are archived and can be searched and read at http://www.mail-archive.com/gam...@audyssey.org. If you have any questions or concerns regarding the management of the list, please send E-mail to gamers-ow...@audyssey.org. --- Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to gamers-unsubscr...@audyssey.org. You can make changes or update your subscription via the web, at http://audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org. All messages are archived and can be searched and read at http://www.mail-archive.com/gam...@audyssey.org. If you have any questions or concerns regarding the management of the list, please send E-mail to gamers-ow...@audyssey.org.
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just thought of something. you could have both games in one installer. then as a side program have a selecter or have this in the menus or something play 3d mode play side scroler mode maybe side scroler mode could be arcade and the other could be standard or something. I'd buy a game that had 2 versions you could play. At 05:04 a.m. 25/06/2010, you wrote: Hi Dark, Oh, its going to essentially be the same game. It will have the same story, same enemies, traps, puzzles, whatever. I could even make the 3d levels similar to there 2d counterparts simply by taking the same levels and simply redrawing each room as a true 3d object complete with four walls, a floor, and a celing. Instead of a 2d room that is say 20 by 8 I could just redraw that room to be 20 by 20 by 8 making it 3d. In other words instead of just length and height each room will have a length, width, and height attribute. The essential difference between the two versions is going to be 3d specific features that you couldn't get in a 2d only game. For example, obviously since the fps version is in 3d that offers you a lot more freedom of movement. Instead of just being able to walk left and right as well as climb up and down on ropes and things the fps version will allow you to move foward, backward, left, right as well as climb up and down on ropes, ladders, staircases, whatever. As I said far more freedom of movement. Targeting will also be a bit different than you are use too. Since we are talking about a truely 3d environment that means aiming your weapons will be a bit trickier since the game will have to calculate a true 3d vector from the player character to the target. For that reason you may have to use the page up key to raise your weapon to target a flying harpy, or use the page down key to lower your weapon in order to target an enemy monster lower to the ground. This is a feature of several mainstream games, and will be quite new to many accessible gamers I think, but it is more realistic and shouldn't be too hard to get use to. As far as any other differences such as weather or not I'll keep the random monsters and items I haven't decided. As I said a couple of days ago there are pros and cons with both. If I keep it the games will definitely be different from game to game which is good. If I get rid of it then I have to figure out where to put everything and rebalance the game which could be time consuming. So I'll cross that bridge when I come to it. In regards to more Tomb Hunter games I definitely plan on it. However, the 3d fps game isn't going to be based on any of the stories I am creating for Tomb Hunter II and so forth. For one thing I haven't purchased all the sounds I need for Tomb Hunter II, and nor would I create two different games seeing as the fps version is merely going to be Mysteries of the Ancients done my way and the side-scroller is the 2d version many people wanted to replace Montezuma's Revenge. Cheers! On 6/24/10, dark d...@xgam.org wrote: Hi Tom. As a fan of both styles of game this deffinately pleases me, however I do have one question. Will the 3D version feature the same enemies, traps and obstacles as the side scroller version? will we stil have harpies, centaurs etc? and will we stil be in griece? I was just wondering, sinse I know you've often spoken about carrying on the tombhunter series into further 3D adventures, whether this will be a different setting, for instance an egyptian or Aztec toomb. Beware the grue! Dark. --- Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to gamers-unsubscr...@audyssey.org. You can make changes or update your subscription via the web, at http://audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org. All messages are archived and can be searched and read at http://www.mail-archive.com/gam...@audyssey.org. If you have any questions or concerns regarding the management of the list, please send E-mail to gamers-ow...@audyssey.org. --- Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to gamers-unsubscr...@audyssey.org. You can make changes or update your subscription via the web, at http://audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org. All messages are archived and can be searched and read at http://www.mail-archive.com/gam...@audyssey.org. If you have any questions or concerns regarding the management of the list, please send E-mail to gamers-ow...@audyssey.org.
Re: [Audyssey] MOTA Download
Use torches by pressing T. Control+T will tell you how many you have left. Potions are used with P, and again Control+P will speak the number. To access the various weapons you hit one of the numbers on the numbers row to draw the weapon associated with that number. We are the Knights who say...Ni! - Original Message - From: William L. Houts cad...@q.com To: Gamers Discussion list gamers@audyssey.org Sent: Thursday, June 24, 2010 11:00 AM Subject: Re: [Audyssey] MOTA Download Thanks for the heads up. It looks to be a tasty game indeed. Now I just need to know how to access swords, torches and the like. Hope I'm not being a pest, but I suppose everyone has gone through this. cheers, Bill - Original Message - From: Bryan Peterson bpeterson2...@cableone.net To: Gamers Discussion list gamers@audyssey.org Sent: Thursday, June 24, 2010 9:32 AM Subject: Re: [Audyssey] MOTA Download www.usagamesinteractive.com. We are the Knights who say...Ni! - Original Message - From: William L. Houts cad...@q.com To: Gamers Discussion list gamers@audyssey.org Sent: Thursday, June 24, 2010 10:23 AM Subject: [Audyssey] MOTA Download I've been reading about this game forever and am finally driven to download and give it a try. What is the URL for USA Games? Thanks. --Bill ...a crack in the teacup opens a lane to the land of the dead. --Auden --- Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to gamers-unsubscr...@audyssey.org. You can make changes or update your subscription via the web, at http://audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org. All messages are archived and can be searched and read at http://www.mail-archive.com/gam...@audyssey.org. If you have any questions or concerns regarding the management of the list, please send E-mail to gamers-ow...@audyssey.org. --- Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to gamers-unsubscr...@audyssey.org. You can make changes or update your subscription via the web, at http://audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org. All messages are archived and can be searched and read at http://www.mail-archive.com/gam...@audyssey.org. If you have any questions or concerns regarding the management of the list, please send E-mail to gamers-ow...@audyssey.org. --- Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to gamers-unsubscr...@audyssey.org. You can make changes or update your subscription via the web, at http://audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org. All messages are archived and can be searched and read at http://www.mail-archive.com/gam...@audyssey.org. If you have any questions or concerns regarding the management of the list, please send E-mail to gamers-ow...@audyssey.org. --- Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to gamers-unsubscr...@audyssey.org. You can make changes or update your subscription via the web, at http://audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org. All messages are archived and can be searched and read at http://www.mail-archive.com/gam...@audyssey.org. If you have any questions or concerns regarding the management of the list, please send E-mail to gamers-ow...@audyssey.org.
Re: [Audyssey] Important MOTA News
So in short something like a combination of Shades of Doom and Tank Commander? I know Tank Commander did require you to raise or lower your gun in order to achieve the proper firing range for the target. We are the Knights who say...Ni! - Original Message - From: Thomas Ward thomasward1...@gmail.com To: Gamers Discussion list gamers@audyssey.org Sent: Thursday, June 24, 2010 11:04 AM Subject: Re: [Audyssey] Important MOTA News Hi Dark, Oh, its going to essentially be the same game. It will have the same story, same enemies, traps, puzzles, whatever. I could even make the 3d levels similar to there 2d counterparts simply by taking the same levels and simply redrawing each room as a true 3d object complete with four walls, a floor, and a celing. Instead of a 2d room that is say 20 by 8 I could just redraw that room to be 20 by 20 by 8 making it 3d. In other words instead of just length and height each room will have a length, width, and height attribute. The essential difference between the two versions is going to be 3d specific features that you couldn't get in a 2d only game. For example, obviously since the fps version is in 3d that offers you a lot more freedom of movement. Instead of just being able to walk left and right as well as climb up and down on ropes and things the fps version will allow you to move foward, backward, left, right as well as climb up and down on ropes, ladders, staircases, whatever. As I said far more freedom of movement. Targeting will also be a bit different than you are use too. Since we are talking about a truely 3d environment that means aiming your weapons will be a bit trickier since the game will have to calculate a true 3d vector from the player character to the target. For that reason you may have to use the page up key to raise your weapon to target a flying harpy, or use the page down key to lower your weapon in order to target an enemy monster lower to the ground. This is a feature of several mainstream games, and will be quite new to many accessible gamers I think, but it is more realistic and shouldn't be too hard to get use to. As far as any other differences such as weather or not I'll keep the random monsters and items I haven't decided. As I said a couple of days ago there are pros and cons with both. If I keep it the games will definitely be different from game to game which is good. If I get rid of it then I have to figure out where to put everything and rebalance the game which could be time consuming. So I'll cross that bridge when I come to it. In regards to more Tomb Hunter games I definitely plan on it. However, the 3d fps game isn't going to be based on any of the stories I am creating for Tomb Hunter II and so forth. For one thing I haven't purchased all the sounds I need for Tomb Hunter II, and nor would I create two different games seeing as the fps version is merely going to be Mysteries of the Ancients done my way and the side-scroller is the 2d version many people wanted to replace Montezuma's Revenge. Cheers! On 6/24/10, dark d...@xgam.org wrote: Hi Tom. As a fan of both styles of game this deffinately pleases me, however I do have one question. Will the 3D version feature the same enemies, traps and obstacles as the side scroller version? will we stil have harpies, centaurs etc? and will we stil be in griece? I was just wondering, sinse I know you've often spoken about carrying on the tombhunter series into further 3D adventures, whether this will be a different setting, for instance an egyptian or Aztec toomb. Beware the grue! Dark. --- Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to gamers-unsubscr...@audyssey.org. You can make changes or update your subscription via the web, at http://audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org. All messages are archived and can be searched and read at http://www.mail-archive.com/gam...@audyssey.org. If you have any questions or concerns regarding the management of the list, please send E-mail to gamers-ow...@audyssey.org. --- Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to gamers-unsubscr...@audyssey.org. You can make changes or update your subscription via the web, at http://audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org. All messages are archived and can be searched and read at http://www.mail-archive.com/gam...@audyssey.org. If you have any questions or concerns regarding the management of the list, please send E-mail to gamers-ow...@audyssey.org.
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Hi, Thomas, Will the user of the 3d version need to have a surround sound speaker system in oerder to play? Thanks Allen - Original Message - From: Thomas Ward thomasward1...@gmail.com To: Gamers Discussion list gamers@audyssey.org Sent: Thursday, June 24, 2010 8:42 AM Subject: [Audyssey] Important MOTA News Hello everyone, In light of a few things I said on the Audyssey mailing list over the past couple days or so I’ve done a lot of thinking about the future of Mysteries of the Ancients. It is no secret I’ve never been fully satisfied about it being a side-scroller, and it is also no secret I promised the community a side-scroller in place of Montezuma’s Revenge. So I thought about the problem, and I have decided upon a course of action that I believe not only will satisfy everyone involved it might actually increase the number of sales for this title too. So what’s the plan? Well, the plan is really quite simple. Beginning with beta 13 or beta 14 I’m going to offer two different downloadable versions of Mysteries of the Ancients. One in the original side-scroller format all of you currently have, and an all new 3d first-person version more like what I had originally planned on creating to begin with. This way it is up to the customer to decide which version he or she likes and can purchase either version from the USA Games store when the game is ready for sale. One of the reasons I have decided to go ahead and do this is that since MOTA beta 12 the Genesis Engine has proven itself to be fairly stable for game development now. I’ve fixed a few things here and there, updated some things, and beta 13 looks really stable. So taking that into account it really wouldn’t be that hard to go ahead and create an all new 3d first-person game using the engine as most of the functionality is already there. All of the basic functions like jumping, running, walking, etc is already in the engine. It is simply a matter of mapping the right 2d or 3d functions to the right keys. As for the game levels those would have to be redrawn for the fps version, of course, but that’s nothing compared to writing an entire engine like Genesis from scratch. I’d say within two weeks, tops, I could have a 3d fps version of the same game sitting up there on the website along side the side-scroller. So why not go ahead and do it right? The other reason is that this way will satisfy everyone including me. This allows the customer to buy and download exactly the version they want. If side-scrollers are your thing go for it. If you are like me and want a full 3d fps type format for the game that will be available too. If you want both you can buy both. The sky is the limit as they say. The only other developer I know who has tried this was Edos Interactive. Back when they released Tomb Raider Legend they released two different versions of the same game. They released a side-scroller version for mobile phones, and they also released a complete 3d third-person perspective version for the Play Station and PC. I’m sure they did it for different reasons, but the idea is that this has been done before, and apparently the marketing ploy worked. People purchased both because they could have the full 3d version on their PC and then take the mobile version of the game with them on their mobile to play on their coffee break. It was a pretty good idea as far as I am conserned and so I've decided to follow in their footsteps. If you have any questions don't hesitate to ask. I know this is surprising even for me. However, I think this is the best of both worlds as far as I am concerned. It is one of those cases where you can have your cake and eat it too. Sincerely, Thomas Ward President of USA Games Interactive --- Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to gamers-unsubscr...@audyssey.org. You can make changes or update your subscription via the web, at http://audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org. All messages are archived and can be searched and read at http://www.mail-archive.com/gam...@audyssey.org. If you have any questions or concerns regarding the management of the list, please send E-mail to gamers-ow...@audyssey.org. --- Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to gamers-unsubscr...@audyssey.org. You can make changes or update your subscription via the web, at http://audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org. All messages are archived and can be searched and read at http://www.mail-archive.com/gam...@audyssey.org. If you have any questions or concerns regarding the management of the list, please send E-mail to gamers-ow...@audyssey.org.
Re: [Audyssey] Important MOTA News
First of all it's MOTA, M O T A, not M O D A. It's an acronym for Mysteries of the Ancients. As for your jumps, make sure you don't have a drawn weapon when you try to jump, otherwise the weight will pull you off balance. Hit Control+W to hear whether your current weapon is drawn. If it is, hit W again to put it away. Then you should be able to successfully make the jump. We are the Knights who say...Ni! - Original Message - From: RONALD HOPKINS rrhopki...@verizon.net To: Gamers Discussion list gamers@audyssey.org Sent: Thursday, June 24, 2010 11:06 AM Subject: Re: [Audyssey] Important MOTA News Hello. Was playing the demo of moda. When I approach the casm, I take one step but after that step, I try to jump and I always end up getting killed. Just wondering what I'm doing wrong? -- From: RONALD HOPKINS rrhopki...@verizon.net Sent: Thursday, June 24, 2010 4:49 PM To: Gamers Discussion list gamers@audyssey.org Subject: Re: [Audyssey] Important MOTA News Thank you thomas. I like side scrollers, but I also like 3d action also. -- From: Thomas Ward thomasward1...@gmail.com Sent: Thursday, June 24, 2010 3:42 PM To: Gamers Discussion list gamers@audyssey.org Subject: [Audyssey] Important MOTA News Hello everyone, In light of a few things I said on the Audyssey mailing list over the past couple days or so I’ve done a lot of thinking about the future of Mysteries of the Ancients. It is no secret I’ve never been fully satisfied about it being a side-scroller, and it is also no secret I promised the community a side-scroller in place of Montezuma’s Revenge. So I thought about the problem, and I have decided upon a course of action that I believe not only will satisfy everyone involved it might actually increase the number of sales for this title too. So what’s the plan? Well, the plan is really quite simple. Beginning with beta 13 or beta 14 I’m going to offer two different downloadable versions of Mysteries of the Ancients. One in the original side-scroller format all of you currently have, and an all new 3d first-person version more like what I had originally planned on creating to begin with. This way it is up to the customer to decide which version he or she likes and can purchase either version from the USA Games store when the game is ready for sale. One of the reasons I have decided to go ahead and do this is that since MOTA beta 12 the Genesis Engine has proven itself to be fairly stable for game development now. I’ve fixed a few things here and there, updated some things, and beta 13 looks really stable. So taking that into account it really wouldn’t be that hard to go ahead and create an all new 3d first-person game using the engine as most of the functionality is already there. All of the basic functions like jumping, running, walking, etc is already in the engine. It is simply a matter of mapping the right 2d or 3d functions to the right keys. As for the game levels those would have to be redrawn for the fps version, of course, but that’s nothing compared to writing an entire engine like Genesis from scratch. I’d say within two weeks, tops, I could have a 3d fps version of the same game sitting up there on the website along side the side-scroller. So why not go ahead and do it right? The other reason is that this way will satisfy everyone including me. This allows the customer to buy and download exactly the version they want. If side-scrollers are your thing go for it. If you are like me and want a full 3d fps type format for the game that will be available too. If you want both you can buy both. The sky is the limit as they say. The only other developer I know who has tried this was Edos Interactive. Back when they released Tomb Raider Legend they released two different versions of the same game. They released a side-scroller version for mobile phones, and they also released a complete 3d third-person perspective version for the Play Station and PC. I’m sure they did it for different reasons, but the idea is that this has been done before, and apparently the marketing ploy worked. People purchased both because they could have the full 3d version on their PC and then take the mobile version of the game with them on their mobile to play on their coffee break. It was a pretty good idea as far as I am conserned and so I've decided to follow in their footsteps. If you have any questions don't hesitate to ask. I know this is surprising even for me. However, I think this is the best of both worlds as far as I am concerned. It is one of those cases where you can have your cake and eat it too. Sincerely, Thomas Ward President of USA Games Interactive --- Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to gamers-unsubscr...@audyssey.org. You can make changes or update your subscription via the web, at
Re: [Audyssey] Important MOTA News
Hi Tom. I honestley like fps games like sod etc so I am really thrilld that moda will be a fps game. from Mich. --- Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to gamers-unsubscr...@audyssey.org. You can make changes or update your subscription via the web, at http://audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org. All messages are archived and can be searched and read at http://www.mail-archive.com/gam...@audyssey.org. If you have any questions or concerns regarding the management of the list, please send E-mail to gamers-ow...@audyssey.org.
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When I'm in the mood just to blow stuff away, the very mission you refer to is my choice. I enjoy blowing the Clinton administration away. (ornery grin) - Original Message - From: Thomas Ward thomasward1...@gmail.com To: Gamers Discussion list gamers@audyssey.org Sent: Thursday, June 24, 2010 10:54 AM Subject: Re: [Audyssey] question Hi Dark, Yeah, there is more than that floating around. At one time I had over 99 missions in my Lone Wolf directory. However, I deleted several missions and re numbered several of them so I only have the ones I like I'll never forget the one someone made where they named several ships after members of the Clinton administration. Hilary Clinton, as I remember, was the main battleship. Bill Clinton's former flings were aircraft carriers. Well, let's face it, everything about that mission was totally warped. It was both funny and totally stupid at the same time. It wasn't one I kept though. On 6/24/10, dark d...@xgam.org wrote: I have 92 in my lw directory, - the 17 originals pluss all the ones from gma's site. I've heard there were more kicking around but that's as many as I have, btw, if there are more, possibly someone should let david know so that he can have them as a download on gma's site with all the rest? Then again, I will frely admit I'm not great at lw, and haven't got further than mission 5 ;D. I really need to try things again and see if I can progress some more in the game. Beware the grue! Dark. --- Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to gamers-unsubscr...@audyssey.org. You can make changes or update your subscription via the web, at http://audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org. All messages are archived and can be searched and read at http://www.mail-archive.com/gam...@audyssey.org. If you have any questions or concerns regarding the management of the list, please send E-mail to gamers-ow...@audyssey.org. --- Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to gamers-unsubscr...@audyssey.org. You can make changes or update your subscription via the web, at http://audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org. All messages are archived and can be searched and read at http://www.mail-archive.com/gam...@audyssey.org. If you have any questions or concerns regarding the management of the list, please send E-mail to gamers-ow...@audyssey.org.
Re: [Audyssey] Important MOTA News
I suppose I'll find out when the game comes out, but how will you be able to determine if an enemy is, say northwest or southeast of you but also 4 feet above or below you? Also, might a flying enemy rise or lower it's flight as it attacks, making it harder to locate during flight? - Original Message - From: Thomas Ward thomasward1...@gmail.com To: Gamers Discussion list gamers@audyssey.org Sent: Thursday, June 24, 2010 12:04 PM Subject: Re: [Audyssey] Important MOTA News Hi Dark, Oh, its going to essentially be the same game. It will have the same story, same enemies, traps, puzzles, whatever. I could even make the 3d levels similar to there 2d counterparts simply by taking the same levels and simply redrawing each room as a true 3d object complete with four walls, a floor, and a celing. Instead of a 2d room that is say 20 by 8 I could just redraw that room to be 20 by 20 by 8 making it 3d. In other words instead of just length and height each room will have a length, width, and height attribute. The essential difference between the two versions is going to be 3d specific features that you couldn't get in a 2d only game. For example, obviously since the fps version is in 3d that offers you a lot more freedom of movement. Instead of just being able to walk left and right as well as climb up and down on ropes and things the fps version will allow you to move foward, backward, left, right as well as climb up and down on ropes, ladders, staircases, whatever. As I said far more freedom of movement. Targeting will also be a bit different than you are use too. Since we are talking about a truely 3d environment that means aiming your weapons will be a bit trickier since the game will have to calculate a true 3d vector from the player character to the target. For that reason you may have to use the page up key to raise your weapon to target a flying harpy, or use the page down key to lower your weapon in order to target an enemy monster lower to the ground. This is a feature of several mainstream games, and will be quite new to many accessible gamers I think, but it is more realistic and shouldn't be too hard to get use to. As far as any other differences such as weather or not I'll keep the random monsters and items I haven't decided. As I said a couple of days ago there are pros and cons with both. If I keep it the games will definitely be different from game to game which is good. If I get rid of it then I have to figure out where to put everything and rebalance the game which could be time consuming. So I'll cross that bridge when I come to it. In regards to more Tomb Hunter games I definitely plan on it. However, the 3d fps game isn't going to be based on any of the stories I am creating for Tomb Hunter II and so forth. For one thing I haven't purchased all the sounds I need for Tomb Hunter II, and nor would I create two different games seeing as the fps version is merely going to be Mysteries of the Ancients done my way and the side-scroller is the 2d version many people wanted to replace Montezuma's Revenge. Cheers! On 6/24/10, dark d...@xgam.org wrote: Hi Tom. As a fan of both styles of game this deffinately pleases me, however I do have one question. Will the 3D version feature the same enemies, traps and obstacles as the side scroller version? will we stil have harpies, centaurs etc? and will we stil be in griece? I was just wondering, sinse I know you've often spoken about carrying on the tombhunter series into further 3D adventures, whether this will be a different setting, for instance an egyptian or Aztec toomb. Beware the grue! Dark. --- Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to gamers-unsubscr...@audyssey.org. You can make changes or update your subscription via the web, at http://audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org. All messages are archived and can be searched and read at http://www.mail-archive.com/gam...@audyssey.org. If you have any questions or concerns regarding the management of the list, please send E-mail to gamers-ow...@audyssey.org. --- Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to gamers-unsubscr...@audyssey.org. You can make changes or update your subscription via the web, at http://audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org. All messages are archived and can be searched and read at http://www.mail-archive.com/gam...@audyssey.org. If you have any questions or concerns regarding the management of the list, please send E-mail to gamers-ow...@audyssey.org.
Re: [Audyssey] Entombed Download Site
Hi, The current version of entombed is 1.02K. You can download the latest version from the following: http://www.blind-games.com/EntombedUpdate.exe The link is also on the main page. However, it says it is for version 1.02I. That info is incorrect and should be changed. The link does however download the correct latest version. HTH. Rich - Original Message - From: William L. Houts Sent: Thursday, June 24, 2010 9:19 AM Hi, Where can I download the latest files for Entombed? I own the game, but am missing something to make the Bazaar work properly. Thanks. --- Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to gamers-unsubscr...@audyssey.org. You can make changes or update your subscription via the web, at http://audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org. All messages are archived and can be searched and read at http://www.mail-archive.com/gam...@audyssey.org. If you have any questions or concerns regarding the management of the list, please send E-mail to gamers-ow...@audyssey.org.
[Audyssey] Entombed bazaar selling list
Hi Gamers, don't remember this being posted here, so thought it was worthy of being passed along. La Mort created a discussion group for those who wish to advertise anything they are going to sell at the entombed bazaar. To subscribe, just send a blank e mail to entombedbizarre-subscr...@yahoogroups.com and you should be good to go. just reply to the confirmation email. To post messages to the list, use the email address of entombedbiza...@yahoogroups.com Rich --- Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to gamers-unsubscr...@audyssey.org. You can make changes or update your subscription via the web, at http://audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org. All messages are archived and can be searched and read at http://www.mail-archive.com/gam...@audyssey.org. If you have any questions or concerns regarding the management of the list, please send E-mail to gamers-ow...@audyssey.org.
Re: [Audyssey] Important MOTA News
Hello again. This is Ron. Well, I shief the weapon, when I approach the casm, I take one step and then I hear the crumble and then I jump, but when I jump to the right, I always dye. Should I not have the torch light? as I said before my weapons are holstered or shieved. -- From: Mich m...@ntl.sympatico.ca Sent: Thursday, June 24, 2010 9:52 PM To: Gamers Discussion list gamers@audyssey.org Subject: Re: [Audyssey] Important MOTA News Hi Tom. I honestley like fps games like sod etc so I am really thrilld that moda will be a fps game. from Mich. --- Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to gamers-unsubscr...@audyssey.org. You can make changes or update your subscription via the web, at http://audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org. All messages are archived and can be searched and read at http://www.mail-archive.com/gam...@audyssey.org. If you have any questions or concerns regarding the management of the list, please send E-mail to gamers-ow...@audyssey.org. --- Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to gamers-unsubscr...@audyssey.org. You can make changes or update your subscription via the web, at http://audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org. All messages are archived and can be searched and read at http://www.mail-archive.com/gam...@audyssey.org. If you have any questions or concerns regarding the management of the list, please send E-mail to gamers-ow...@audyssey.org.
Re: [Audyssey] Important MOTA News
Hi, Torches are irrelevant. Best Regards, Hayden -Original Message- From: gamers-boun...@audyssey.org [mailto:gamers-boun...@audyssey.org] On Behalf Of RONALD HOPKINS Sent: Thursday, June 24, 2010 6:29 PM To: Gamers Discussion list Subject: Re: [Audyssey] Important MOTA News Hello again. This is Ron. Well, I shief the weapon, when I approach the casm, I take one step and then I hear the crumble and then I jump, but when I jump to the right, I always dye. Should I not have the torch light? as I said before my weapons are holstered or shieved. -- From: Mich m...@ntl.sympatico.ca Sent: Thursday, June 24, 2010 9:52 PM To: Gamers Discussion list gamers@audyssey.org Subject: Re: [Audyssey] Important MOTA News Hi Tom. I honestley like fps games like sod etc so I am really thrilld that moda will be a fps game. from Mich. --- Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to gamers-unsubscr...@audyssey.org. You can make changes or update your subscription via the web, at http://audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org. All messages are archived and can be searched and read at http://www.mail-archive.com/gam...@audyssey.org. If you have any questions or concerns regarding the management of the list, please send E-mail to gamers-ow...@audyssey.org. --- Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to gamers-unsubscr...@audyssey.org. You can make changes or update your subscription via the web, at http://audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org. All messages are archived and can be searched and read at http://www.mail-archive.com/gam...@audyssey.org. If you have any questions or concerns regarding the management of the list, please send E-mail to gamers-ow...@audyssey.org. --- Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to gamers-unsubscr...@audyssey.org. You can make changes or update your subscription via the web, at http://audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org. All messages are archived and can be searched and read at http://www.mail-archive.com/gam...@audyssey.org. If you have any questions or concerns regarding the management of the list, please send E-mail to gamers-ow...@audyssey.org.
Re: [Audyssey] Important MOTA News
Thomas: All I can say is yes!! I am so happy! It just became from a title I would not buy to one I will definitely buy. -Original Message- From: gamers-boun...@audyssey.org [mailto:gamers-boun...@audyssey.org] On Behalf Of Thomas Ward Sent: Thursday, June 24, 2010 10:42 AM To: Gamers Discussion list Subject: [Audyssey] Important MOTA News Hello everyone, In light of a few things I said on the Audyssey mailing list over the past couple days or so I've done a lot of thinking about the future of Mysteries of the Ancients. It is no secret I've never been fully satisfied about it being a side-scroller, and it is also no secret I promised the community a side-scroller in place of Montezuma's Revenge. So I thought about the problem, and I have decided upon a course of action that I believe not only will satisfy everyone involved it might actually increase the number of sales for this title too. So what's the plan? Well, the plan is really quite simple. Beginning with beta 13 or beta 14 I'm going to offer two different downloadable versions of Mysteries of the Ancients. One in the original side-scroller format all of you currently have, and an all new 3d first-person version more like what I had originally planned on creating to begin with. This way it is up to the customer to decide which version he or she likes and can purchase either version from the USA Games store when the game is ready for sale. One of the reasons I have decided to go ahead and do this is that since MOTA beta 12 the Genesis Engine has proven itself to be fairly stable for game development now. I've fixed a few things here and there, updated some things, and beta 13 looks really stable. So taking that into account it really wouldn't be that hard to go ahead and create an all new 3d first-person game using the engine as most of the functionality is already there. All of the basic functions like jumping, running, walking, etc is already in the engine. It is simply a matter of mapping the right 2d or 3d functions to the right keys. As for the game levels those would have to be redrawn for the fps version, of course, but that's nothing compared to writing an entire engine like Genesis from scratch. I'd say within two weeks, tops, I could have a 3d fps version of the same game sitting up there on the website along side the side-scroller. So why not go ahead and do it right? The other reason is that this way will satisfy everyone including me. This allows the customer to buy and download exactly the version they want. If side-scrollers are your thing go for it. If you are like me and want a full 3d fps type format for the game that will be available too. If you want both you can buy both. The sky is the limit as they say. The only other developer I know who has tried this was Edos Interactive. Back when they released Tomb Raider Legend they released two different versions of the same game. They released a side-scroller version for mobile phones, and they also released a complete 3d third-person perspective version for the Play Station and PC. I'm sure they did it for different reasons, but the idea is that this has been done before, and apparently the marketing ploy worked. People purchased both because they could have the full 3d version on their PC and then take the mobile version of the game with them on their mobile to play on their coffee break. It was a pretty good idea as far as I am conserned and so I've decided to follow in their footsteps. If you have any questions don't hesitate to ask. I know this is surprising even for me. However, I think this is the best of both worlds as far as I am concerned. It is one of those cases where you can have your cake and eat it too. Sincerely, Thomas Ward President of USA Games Interactive --- Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to gamers-unsubscr...@audyssey.org. You can make changes or update your subscription via the web, at http://audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org. All messages are archived and can be searched and read at http://www.mail-archive.com/gam...@audyssey.org. If you have any questions or concerns regarding the management of the list, please send E-mail to gamers-ow...@audyssey.org. --- Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to gamers-unsubscr...@audyssey.org. You can make changes or update your subscription via the web, at http://audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org. All messages are archived and can be searched and read at http://www.mail-archive.com/gam...@audyssey.org. If you have any questions or concerns regarding the management of the list, please send E-mail to gamers-ow...@audyssey.org.
Re: [Audyssey] Important MOTA News
I think this is a great move- speaking from someone who's not a fan of 2d games' perspective, I always love MOTA's design and idea, but have not followed up on it just because it is 2D. Once there's a FPS version, I'll be among the first to get into it. No one ever kicked ass by saying I can't. Johnny ST Tai LIVE AND WALK WITH CONFIDENCE. Interpersonal and Social Relationship Counselling- call or email to book your appointment today! johnnyti...@shaw.ca 1-604-275-2795 Listen to, or buy our music at: http://www.musicsubmit.com/thecat http://www.cdbaby.com/thecat http://www.mynoisyplanet.com/TheCAT. http://www.cdbaby.com/thecat2 http://www.rhythmqwest.com/thecat and watch our videos at: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tcer-Qboz24 http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ycuQZ7OT2yA Check out some of my writings at: http://www.alteraeon.com/fanfic/ http://www.authorsden.com/visit/viewpoetry_all.asp?Authorid=10366 http://www.fictionpress.com/u/330245/JSTiger The king who stands poised With claws and fangs, eyes ablaze... The hunt has begun. -Haiku by Johnny Tai -Do you mud? If you do, visit us at: cyberassault.org PORT: 1 - Original Message - From: Thomas Ward thomasward1...@gmail.com To: Gamers Discussion list gamers@audyssey.org Sent: Thursday, June 24, 2010 10:46 AM Subject: Re: [Audyssey] Important MOTA News Hi Muhammed, Well, from a geometric point of view there is a considerable difference between 2d and 3d. The best way to think of this is what's the difference between a 2d shape like a square and a 3d shape like a cube? Well, a square only has four sides. It has a left, right, top, and bottom side. However, it is completely flat. A cube on the other hand has a total of six sides. It has a left, right, front, back, top, and a bottom side. Therefore it is a true 3d object. When we talk about 2d verses 3d with a game like MOTA we are talking about how the level is presented. a 2d room only has two walls, a floor and a celing, and therefore only has four possible directions of movement like left, right, up, or down. A 3d room however is a cube with four walls, a floor, and a celing and offers six major directions of movement like left, right, forward, backward, up, or down plus everything in between. Since the real world happens to be in 3d a game that uses 3d levels would obviously be more natural for a gamer and be much more realistic. It allows for a lot more possibilities not only in movement but in drawing the levels more like they would be in real life. Does that make sense? Cheers! On 6/24/10, Muhammed Deniz muhamme...@googlemail.com wrote: What's the difference between 2d and 3d? --- Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to gamers-unsubscr...@audyssey.org. You can make changes or update your subscription via the web, at http://audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org. All messages are archived and can be searched and read at http://www.mail-archive.com/gam...@audyssey.org. If you have any questions or concerns regarding the management of the list, please send E-mail to gamers-ow...@audyssey.org. --- Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to gamers-unsubscr...@audyssey.org. You can make changes or update your subscription via the web, at http://audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org. All messages are archived and can be searched and read at http://www.mail-archive.com/gam...@audyssey.org. If you have any questions or concerns regarding the management of the list, please send E-mail to gamers-ow...@audyssey.org.
Re: [Audyssey] Panning Weapon Sounds in MOTA
Hi Muhammed, Well of course Thomas has the right to ask for comments, suggestions etc about MOTA. The only reason that I said anything is that every time that he asks he gets some people saying right and others saying left, some saying up and others saying down etc etc. And some times he gets frustrated with this. So I just suggested that to stop the frustration, stop asking. That's it. BFN - Original Message - Jim, he has the right to ask really. The reason he asks is that so he doesn't go in the wrong direction and and peoples apinyins. And rating on the plans. My audio games for the blind group. Discussions off topic are welcome in the holidays. Talking about games is welcome, talking about computer problems is welcome when their are know holidays but that's only in easter holidays or know holidays. If you want to joyn, just send a blank email to. audiogamesfortheblind+subscr...@googlegroups.com With the subject subscribe in the subject line. Contact infermation. email: muhamme...@googlemail.com msn: muhammed123...@hotmail.co.uk Skype: muhammed.deniz Klango username. muhammed - Original Message - From: Jim Kitchen j...@kitchensinc.net To: Thomas Ward Gamers@audyssey.org Sent: Thursday, June 24, 2010 1:45 AM Subject: Re: [Audyssey] Panning Weapon Sounds in MOTA Hi Thomas, I do not mean this to sound rude, or anything like that, but, maybe you should stop asking people what they would like to see in MOTA, or if this sounds better than that or this or that etc etc, and just finish the game as is. Then of course you could get on to games that you would like to create and hopefully those games will be great games that allot of people like and buy and of course make you happy to create and play. BFN Jim Everyone is entitled to my opinion, just ask me... j...@kitchensinc.net http://www.kitchensinc.net (440) 286-6920 Chardon Ohio USA Jim You can be on the right track and still get hit by a train! j...@kitchensinc.net http://www.kitchensinc.net (440) 286-6920 Chardon Ohio USA --- Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to gamers-unsubscr...@audyssey.org. You can make changes or update your subscription via the web, at http://audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org. All messages are archived and can be searched and read at http://www.mail-archive.com/gam...@audyssey.org. If you have any questions or concerns regarding the management of the list, please send E-mail to gamers-ow...@audyssey.org.
[Audyssey] Friday's Out of Sight events
Here are the events scheduled for Friday, June 25th: Word Burst 6:00 PM eastern Hosted by Kathy Mertz Location: Games Anyone Do you love to play Outburst? Do you love words? Let's put the two together and play Word Burst! Word Burst is the same as Outburst, except that you don't call out items in categories, such as Elvis hits or makes of cars. Instead, the members of each team call out anagrams of the word I will give you. So come in and find the words within a word. Hope to see you there. God's Praise and Worship Hour 7:00 PM eastern Hosted by Diane Location: How Great Thou Art Hi everyone come and join me, Diane, known as Live by Faith, for God's Praise and Worship hour from 7:00 to 8:00 PM eastern, on Fridays. We can come together and listen to a selection of songs that I have created to praise and worship God. Look forward to seeing you there. Be blessed! Memory Lane 8:00 PM eastern Hosted by Suzy B. Location: Out of Sight Presents Would you like to know more about your friends here on Out of Sight? Do you wonder what caused their blindness? Would you like to know about their passions? What careers they've had throughout life? If so, let's take a trip down Memory Lane. This event will be held on the fourth Friday evening of every month. Come on in and get to know a fellow Out of Sight member! This month's featured guest is: Immigrant! Have a nice day, and thank goodness it's Friday! The Out of Sight main site is at: http://www.out-of-sight.net --- Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to gamers-unsubscr...@audyssey.org. You can make changes or update your subscription via the web, at http://audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org. All messages are archived and can be searched and read at http://www.mail-archive.com/gam...@audyssey.org. If you have any questions or concerns regarding the management of the list, please send E-mail to gamers-ow...@audyssey.org.
