Re: [Audyssey] little problem
What operating system, and version/build of jaws are you running? When I first switched over to windows 7, jaws 11 had issues since it thought I was changing the hardware all the time, even after just a reboot, and this also meant it kept on de-activating itself, but they fixed that in a later build of jaws 11, and haven't had issues with jaws 12 at all either. Stay well Jacob Kruger Blind Biker Skype: BlindZA '...fate had broken his body, but not his spirit...' - Original Message - From: "Ryan Conroy" To: Sent: Thursday, January 06, 2011 4:28 AM Subject: [Audyssey] little problem I just downloaded Daytona, and plugged my mouse in to play. Has anyone experienced an issue with Jaws when you plug the mouse in? My Jaws unregistered itself, and now I'm stuck with the demo because I can not register it due to errors I keep getting. I've Emailed Freedomscientific about it, so hopefully I'll hear something. I just want to know, has this happened to anyone else? Refinance Rates at 2.8% $160,000 Mortgage $434/mo. No Hidden Fees- 3.1% APR! Get a Free Quote http://thirdpartyoffers.juno.com/TGL3131/4d25291cecafc4e2d5dst05vuc --- Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to gamers-unsubscr...@audyssey.org. You can make changes or update your subscription via the web, at http://audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org. All messages are archived and can be searched and read at http://www.mail-archive.com/gamers@audyssey.org. If you have any questions or concerns regarding the management of the list, please send E-mail to gamers-ow...@audyssey.org. --- Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to gamers-unsubscr...@audyssey.org. You can make changes or update your subscription via the web, at http://audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org. All messages are archived and can be searched and read at http://www.mail-archive.com/gamers@audyssey.org. If you have any questions or concerns regarding the management of the list, please send E-mail to gamers-ow...@audyssey.org.
Re: [Audyssey] Problem with Daytona
Hi, thanks. Yes, that helped much. *smiles* Seems I misunderstood the sound there, but now I think I'll be able to do it right. *smiles* Thanks again and best regards Sarah --- Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to gamers-unsubscr...@audyssey.org. You can make changes or update your subscription via the web, at http://audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org. All messages are archived and can be searched and read at http://www.mail-archive.com/gamers@audyssey.org. If you have any questions or concerns regarding the management of the list, please send E-mail to gamers-ow...@audyssey.org.
Re: [Audyssey] BGT and Screen Reader API's
You have to know phonemic spelling. We are the Knights who say...Ni! - Original Message - From: "Hayden Presley" To: "'Gamers Discussion list'" Sent: Wednesday, January 05, 2011 9:06 PM Subject: Re: [Audyssey] BGT and Screen Reader API's Hi, I know that's the oly one, I was rather asking how you got Decktalk to sing. Best Regards, Hayden -Original Message- From: gamers-boun...@audyssey.org [mailto:gamers-boun...@audyssey.org] On Behalf Of Bryan Peterson Sent: Wednesday, January 05, 2011 6:17 PM To: Gamers Discussion list Subject: Re: [Audyssey] BGT and Screen Reader API's Not all synthes can do it. In fact Dectalk is the only one I know of. But you have to know phonemic spelling. We are the Knights who say...Ni! - Original Message - From: "Hayden Presley" To: "'Gamers Discussion list'" Sent: Wednesday, January 05, 2011 4:47 PM Subject: Re: [Audyssey] BGT and Screen Reader API's Hi, A little off topic but how do you get a speech synthesizer to sing? Though I can't stand Decktalk myself, and I find that eEloquence pronounces words like to, for example, in a way that sounds more natural. Best Regards, Hayden -Original Message- From: gamers-boun...@audyssey.org [mailto:gamers-boun...@audyssey.org] On Behalf Of Thomas Ward Sent: Wednesday, January 05, 2011 11:11 AM To: Gamers Discussion list Subject: Re: [Audyssey] BGT and Screen Reader API's Hi Bryan, Well, I find that a bit unusual. Back when I started using screen readers in the 1990's the first hardware sinth I owned was a Dectalk. I fell in love with the Dectalk voice and I always felt it was hundreds of times better than the accent, Keynote, Doubletalk, and other choices at the time. Most Window-Eyes users I know love the Dectalk Access Software, and so do I. I guess I never thought anyone would willingly take Eloquence over Dectalk. Eloquence is terrible and too robotic in my book, and I always felt the Dectalk was more human sounding. In fact, I own the Linux version of Dectalk Access that works with Orca as well. On 1/5/11, Bryan Peterson wrote: I agree with you there. I myself se Eloquence with WIndow-Eyes, but if it weren't for the fast response rate I wouldn't bother. And while Dectalk is also included that's a voice I can't listen to for extended periods unless I'm making it sing. We are the Knights who say...Ni! --- Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to gamers-unsubscr...@audyssey.org. You can make changes or update your subscription via the web, at http://audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org. All messages are archived and can be searched and read at http://www.mail-archive.com/gamers@audyssey.org. If you have any questions or concerns regarding the management of the list, please send E-mail to gamers-ow...@audyssey.org. --- Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to gamers-unsubscr...@audyssey.org. You can make changes or update your subscription via the web, at http://audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org. All messages are archived and can be searched and read at http://www.mail-archive.com/gamers@audyssey.org. If you have any questions or concerns regarding the management of the list, please send E-mail to gamers-ow...@audyssey.org. --- Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to gamers-unsubscr...@audyssey.org. You can make changes or update your subscription via the web, at http://audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org. All messages are archived and can be searched and read at http://www.mail-archive.com/gamers@audyssey.org. If you have any questions or concerns regarding the management of the list, please send E-mail to gamers-ow...@audyssey.org. --- Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to gamers-unsubscr...@audyssey.org. You can make changes or update your subscription via the web, at http://audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org. All messages are archived and can be searched and read at http://www.mail-archive.com/gamers@audyssey.org. If you have any questions or concerns regarding the management of the list, please send E-mail to gamers-ow...@audyssey.org. --- Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to gamers-unsubscr...@audyssey.org. You can make changes or update your subscription via the web, at http://audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org. All messages are archived and can be searched and read at http://www.mail-archive.com/gamers@audyssey.org. If you have any questions or concerns regarding the management of the list, please send E-mail to gamers-ow...@audyssey.org.
Re: [Audyssey] BGT and Screen Reader API's
Hi, I know that's the oly one, I was rather asking how you got Decktalk to sing. Best Regards, Hayden -Original Message- From: gamers-boun...@audyssey.org [mailto:gamers-boun...@audyssey.org] On Behalf Of Bryan Peterson Sent: Wednesday, January 05, 2011 6:17 PM To: Gamers Discussion list Subject: Re: [Audyssey] BGT and Screen Reader API's Not all synthes can do it. In fact Dectalk is the only one I know of. But you have to know phonemic spelling. We are the Knights who say...Ni! - Original Message - From: "Hayden Presley" To: "'Gamers Discussion list'" Sent: Wednesday, January 05, 2011 4:47 PM Subject: Re: [Audyssey] BGT and Screen Reader API's > Hi, > A little off topic but how do you get a speech synthesizer to sing? Though > I > can't stand Decktalk myself, and I find that eEloquence pronounces words > like to, for example, in a way that sounds more natural. > > Best Regards, > Hayden > > > -Original Message- > From: gamers-boun...@audyssey.org [mailto:gamers-boun...@audyssey.org] On > Behalf Of Thomas Ward > Sent: Wednesday, January 05, 2011 11:11 AM > To: Gamers Discussion list > Subject: Re: [Audyssey] BGT and Screen Reader API's > > Hi Bryan, > > Well, I find that a bit unusual. Back when I started using screen > readers in the 1990's the first hardware sinth I owned was a Dectalk. > I fell in love with the Dectalk voice and I always felt it was > hundreds of times better than the accent, Keynote, Doubletalk, and > other choices at the time. Most Window-Eyes users I know love the > Dectalk Access Software, and so do I. I guess I never thought anyone > would willingly take Eloquence over Dectalk. Eloquence is terrible and > too robotic in my book, and I always felt the Dectalk was more human > sounding. In fact, I own the Linux version of Dectalk Access that > works with Orca as well. > > On 1/5/11, Bryan Peterson wrote: >> I agree with you there. I myself se Eloquence with WIndow-Eyes, but if it >> weren't for the fast response rate I wouldn't bother. And while Dectalk >> is >> also included that's a voice I can't listen to for extended periods >> unless >> I'm making it sing. >> We are the Knights who say...Ni! > > --- > Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org > If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to > gamers-unsubscr...@audyssey.org. > You can make changes or update your subscription via the web, at > http://audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org. > All messages are archived and can be searched and read at > http://www.mail-archive.com/gamers@audyssey.org. > If you have any questions or concerns regarding the management of the > list, > please send E-mail to gamers-ow...@audyssey.org. > > > --- > Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org > If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to > gamers-unsubscr...@audyssey.org. > You can make changes or update your subscription via the web, at > http://audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org. > All messages are archived and can be searched and read at > http://www.mail-archive.com/gamers@audyssey.org. > If you have any questions or concerns regarding the management of the > list, > please send E-mail to gamers-ow...@audyssey.org. --- Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to gamers-unsubscr...@audyssey.org. You can make changes or update your subscription via the web, at http://audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org. All messages are archived and can be searched and read at http://www.mail-archive.com/gamers@audyssey.org. If you have any questions or concerns regarding the management of the list, please send E-mail to gamers-ow...@audyssey.org. --- Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to gamers-unsubscr...@audyssey.org. You can make changes or update your subscription via the web, at http://audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org. All messages are archived and can be searched and read at http://www.mail-archive.com/gamers@audyssey.org. If you have any questions or concerns regarding the management of the list, please send E-mail to gamers-ow...@audyssey.org.
[Audyssey] little problem
I just downloaded Daytona, and plugged my mouse in to play. Has anyone experienced an issue with Jaws when you plug the mouse in? My Jaws unregistered itself, and now I'm stuck with the demo because I can not register it due to errors I keep getting. I've Emailed Freedomscientific about it, so hopefully I'll hear something. I just want to know, has this happened to anyone else? Refinance Rates at 2.8% $160,000 Mortgage $434/mo. No Hidden Fees- 3.1% APR! Get a Free Quote http://thirdpartyoffers.juno.com/TGL3131/4d25291cecafc4e2d5dst05vuc --- Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to gamers-unsubscr...@audyssey.org. You can make changes or update your subscription via the web, at http://audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org. All messages are archived and can be searched and read at http://www.mail-archive.com/gamers@audyssey.org. If you have any questions or concerns regarding the management of the list, please send E-mail to gamers-ow...@audyssey.org.
Re: [Audyssey] Problem with Daytona
Sarah I believe I can help. Use Tab to scroll through the menus, not the arrow keys. I suppose I should add in the arrows as acceptable alternatives to using Tab, I'll do that in a little while so it will be in the next release. The reason the mouse seems to be backwards is because the sound you're hearing isn't moving. It represents a beacon. As you're moving the mouse to the right you are hearing it getting farther away on your left. Imagine the beacon as being a small spot on your mouse pad and it will make more sense with how the sound changes. I hope this has helped. :) --- Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to gamers-unsubscr...@audyssey.org. You can make changes or update your subscription via the web, at http://audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org. All messages are archived and can be searched and read at http://www.mail-archive.com/gamers@audyssey.org. If you have any questions or concerns regarding the management of the list, please send E-mail to gamers-ow...@audyssey.org.
[Audyssey] Problem with Daytona
Hi, sorry I don't post my problem in the audiogames forum, but I don't have an account there. I downloaded the Beta of Daytona, but it doesn't work as it should. First, I can't navigate the menues at all. All I can do is pressing the enter key, but I don't get any menue choices read out when using the arrow keys or even the mouse. Second, the mouse moves in the wrong direction! *lol* When I move the mouse to the left, the sound goes right and the other way around. But outside of the game the mouse works correctly, so I don't really know what's wrong here. *smiles* Help would be much appreciated. I like this concept of gaming very much and am eager to try it properly. *smiles* Thanks and best regards Sarah --- Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to gamers-unsubscr...@audyssey.org. You can make changes or update your subscription via the web, at http://audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org. All messages are archived and can be searched and read at http://www.mail-archive.com/gamers@audyssey.org. If you have any questions or concerns regarding the management of the list, please send E-mail to gamers-ow...@audyssey.org.
Re: [Audyssey] BGT and Screen Reader API's
Not all synthes can do it. In fact Dectalk is the only one I know of. But you have to know phonemic spelling. We are the Knights who say...Ni! - Original Message - From: "Hayden Presley" To: "'Gamers Discussion list'" Sent: Wednesday, January 05, 2011 4:47 PM Subject: Re: [Audyssey] BGT and Screen Reader API's Hi, A little off topic but how do you get a speech synthesizer to sing? Though I can't stand Decktalk myself, and I find that eEloquence pronounces words like to, for example, in a way that sounds more natural. Best Regards, Hayden -Original Message- From: gamers-boun...@audyssey.org [mailto:gamers-boun...@audyssey.org] On Behalf Of Thomas Ward Sent: Wednesday, January 05, 2011 11:11 AM To: Gamers Discussion list Subject: Re: [Audyssey] BGT and Screen Reader API's Hi Bryan, Well, I find that a bit unusual. Back when I started using screen readers in the 1990's the first hardware sinth I owned was a Dectalk. I fell in love with the Dectalk voice and I always felt it was hundreds of times better than the accent, Keynote, Doubletalk, and other choices at the time. Most Window-Eyes users I know love the Dectalk Access Software, and so do I. I guess I never thought anyone would willingly take Eloquence over Dectalk. Eloquence is terrible and too robotic in my book, and I always felt the Dectalk was more human sounding. In fact, I own the Linux version of Dectalk Access that works with Orca as well. On 1/5/11, Bryan Peterson wrote: I agree with you there. I myself se Eloquence with WIndow-Eyes, but if it weren't for the fast response rate I wouldn't bother. And while Dectalk is also included that's a voice I can't listen to for extended periods unless I'm making it sing. We are the Knights who say...Ni! --- Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to gamers-unsubscr...@audyssey.org. You can make changes or update your subscription via the web, at http://audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org. All messages are archived and can be searched and read at http://www.mail-archive.com/gamers@audyssey.org. If you have any questions or concerns regarding the management of the list, please send E-mail to gamers-ow...@audyssey.org. --- Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to gamers-unsubscr...@audyssey.org. You can make changes or update your subscription via the web, at http://audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org. All messages are archived and can be searched and read at http://www.mail-archive.com/gamers@audyssey.org. If you have any questions or concerns regarding the management of the list, please send E-mail to gamers-ow...@audyssey.org. --- Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to gamers-unsubscr...@audyssey.org. You can make changes or update your subscription via the web, at http://audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org. All messages are archived and can be searched and read at http://www.mail-archive.com/gamers@audyssey.org. If you have any questions or concerns regarding the management of the list, please send E-mail to gamers-ow...@audyssey.org.
Re: [Audyssey] zany touch
I always find voice-over easier as my acurisy on screen without it isn't good. It's like in Aurifi when they ask you to draw a shape on screne. - Original Message - From: "Hayden Presley" To: "'Gamers Discussion list'" Sent: Wednesday, January 05, 2011 11:58 PM Subject: Re: [Audyssey] zany touch Hi, I must disagree...if you are careful you do not need voice over to select your level. Best Regards, Hayden -Original Message- From: gamers-boun...@audyssey.org [mailto:gamers-boun...@audyssey.org] On Behalf Of Ian McNamara Sent: Wednesday, January 05, 2011 12:55 AM To: Gamers Discussion list Subject: Re: [Audyssey] zany touch you can't celect your level with out voice over as you need voice over to read the buttons. loving the games for the ipod touch there fantastic. Ian McNamara --- Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to gamers-unsubscr...@audyssey.org. You can make changes or update your subscription via the web, at http://audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org. All messages are archived and can be searched and read at http://www.mail-archive.com/gamers@audyssey.org. If you have any questions or concerns regarding the management of the list, please send E-mail to gamers-ow...@audyssey.org. --- Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to gamers-unsubscr...@audyssey.org. You can make changes or update your subscription via the web, at http://audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org. All messages are archived and can be searched and read at http://www.mail-archive.com/gamers@audyssey.org. If you have any questions or concerns regarding the management of the list, please send E-mail to gamers-ow...@audyssey.org. --- Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to gamers-unsubscr...@audyssey.org. You can make changes or update your subscription via the web, at http://audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org. All messages are archived and can be searched and read at http://www.mail-archive.com/gamers@audyssey.org. If you have any questions or concerns regarding the management of the list, please send E-mail to gamers-ow...@audyssey.org.
Re: [Audyssey] zany touch
Hi, I must disagree...if you are careful you do not need voice over to select your level. Best Regards, Hayden -Original Message- From: gamers-boun...@audyssey.org [mailto:gamers-boun...@audyssey.org] On Behalf Of Ian McNamara Sent: Wednesday, January 05, 2011 12:55 AM To: Gamers Discussion list Subject: Re: [Audyssey] zany touch you can't celect your level with out voice over as you need voice over to read the buttons. loving the games for the ipod touch there fantastic. Ian McNamara --- Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to gamers-unsubscr...@audyssey.org. You can make changes or update your subscription via the web, at http://audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org. All messages are archived and can be searched and read at http://www.mail-archive.com/gamers@audyssey.org. If you have any questions or concerns regarding the management of the list, please send E-mail to gamers-ow...@audyssey.org. --- Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to gamers-unsubscr...@audyssey.org. You can make changes or update your subscription via the web, at http://audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org. All messages are archived and can be searched and read at http://www.mail-archive.com/gamers@audyssey.org. If you have any questions or concerns regarding the management of the list, please send E-mail to gamers-ow...@audyssey.org.
Re: [Audyssey] two games.
Hi, Does Aurifi ever end? I've only gotten the "level up" message once; I'm having the same problem Liam was having in his podcast, that tilting is ridiculously touchy. I find that if you ajust the pitch in too quickly It ends up raising it for you. Now isn't that nice? Best Regards, Hayden -Original Message- From: gamers-boun...@audyssey.org [mailto:gamers-boun...@audyssey.org] On Behalf Of Darren Duff Sent: Wednesday, January 05, 2011 7:33 AM To: 'Gamers Discussion list' Subject: Re: [Audyssey] two games. Is there a way to reset the high score to 0 so you can start over? -Original Message- From: gamers-boun...@audyssey.org [mailto:gamers-boun...@audyssey.org] On Behalf Of Karl Belanger Sent: Wednesday, January 05, 2011 6:49 AM To: 'Gamers Discussion list' Subject: Re: [Audyssey] two games. The buttens are Easy, Medium, Hard, two-player, and credits. If you lose a game and do not beat your high score, you will be put on a screen with just a done button in the middle. -Original Message- From: gamers-boun...@audyssey.org [mailto:gamers-boun...@audyssey.org] On Behalf Of michael barnes Sent: Wednesday, January 05, 2011 3:34 AM To: gamers@audyssey.org Subject: Re: [Audyssey] two games. what is the buttons on smack me that ain't label. -- Email services provided by the System Access Mobile Network. Visit www.serotek.com to learn more about accessibility anywhere. --- Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to gamers-unsubscr...@audyssey.org. You can make changes or update your subscription via the web, at http://audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org. All messages are archived and can be searched and read at http://www.mail-archive.com/gamers@audyssey.org. If you have any questions or concerns regarding the management of the list, please send E-mail to gamers-ow...@audyssey.org. --- Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to gamers-unsubscr...@audyssey.org. You can make changes or update your subscription via the web, at http://audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org. All messages are archived and can be searched and read at http://www.mail-archive.com/gamers@audyssey.org. If you have any questions or concerns regarding the management of the list, please send E-mail to gamers-ow...@audyssey.org. _ NOD32 EMON 5761 (20110105) information _ This message was checked by NOD32 antivirus system http://www.eset.com _ NOD32 EMON 5761 (20110105) information _ This message was checked by NOD32 antivirus system http://www.eset.com --- Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to gamers-unsubscr...@audyssey.org. You can make changes or update your subscription via the web, at http://audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org. All messages are archived and can be searched and read at http://www.mail-archive.com/gamers@audyssey.org. If you have any questions or concerns regarding the management of the list, please send E-mail to gamers-ow...@audyssey.org. --- Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to gamers-unsubscr...@audyssey.org. You can make changes or update your subscription via the web, at http://audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org. All messages are archived and can be searched and read at http://www.mail-archive.com/gamers@audyssey.org. If you have any questions or concerns regarding the management of the list, please send E-mail to gamers-ow...@audyssey.org.
Re: [Audyssey] BGT and Screen Reader API's
Hi, A little off topic but how do you get a speech synthesizer to sing? Though I can't stand Decktalk myself, and I find that eEloquence pronounces words like to, for example, in a way that sounds more natural. Best Regards, Hayden -Original Message- From: gamers-boun...@audyssey.org [mailto:gamers-boun...@audyssey.org] On Behalf Of Thomas Ward Sent: Wednesday, January 05, 2011 11:11 AM To: Gamers Discussion list Subject: Re: [Audyssey] BGT and Screen Reader API's Hi Bryan, Well, I find that a bit unusual. Back when I started using screen readers in the 1990's the first hardware sinth I owned was a Dectalk. I fell in love with the Dectalk voice and I always felt it was hundreds of times better than the accent, Keynote, Doubletalk, and other choices at the time. Most Window-Eyes users I know love the Dectalk Access Software, and so do I. I guess I never thought anyone would willingly take Eloquence over Dectalk. Eloquence is terrible and too robotic in my book, and I always felt the Dectalk was more human sounding. In fact, I own the Linux version of Dectalk Access that works with Orca as well. On 1/5/11, Bryan Peterson wrote: > I agree with you there. I myself se Eloquence with WIndow-Eyes, but if it > weren't for the fast response rate I wouldn't bother. And while Dectalk is > also included that's a voice I can't listen to for extended periods unless > I'm making it sing. > We are the Knights who say...Ni! --- Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to gamers-unsubscr...@audyssey.org. You can make changes or update your subscription via the web, at http://audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org. All messages are archived and can be searched and read at http://www.mail-archive.com/gamers@audyssey.org. If you have any questions or concerns regarding the management of the list, please send E-mail to gamers-ow...@audyssey.org. --- Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to gamers-unsubscr...@audyssey.org. You can make changes or update your subscription via the web, at http://audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org. All messages are archived and can be searched and read at http://www.mail-archive.com/gamers@audyssey.org. If you have any questions or concerns regarding the management of the list, please send E-mail to gamers-ow...@audyssey.org.
Re: [Audyssey] BGT and Screen Reader API's
Hi Bryan, Good point. I've never liked that aspect of the game either. However, I also know it might be hard for Phil to get enough human actors to do all of the ghosts, statues, etc too. On 1/5/11, Bryan Peterson wrote: > The ghosts are still synthetic. That always detracted from the gameplay for > me. > We are the Knights who say...Ni! --- Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to gamers-unsubscr...@audyssey.org. You can make changes or update your subscription via the web, at http://audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org. All messages are archived and can be searched and read at http://www.mail-archive.com/gamers@audyssey.org. If you have any questions or concerns regarding the management of the list, please send E-mail to gamers-ow...@audyssey.org.
[Audyssey] The Trials of Guilder
Hi does anyone know what happened to the developer of this game? I was hunting around for other text-games and was trying to find out if this one had a soundpack. It looks good, but I don't want to just click on links all night in a browser to play a game. I can't remember the web address to The Trials of Guilder but my email bounced back, so maybe he's one of the thousands who have flown off into the etha of nevermore game development Or his email may just be having problems. --- Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to gamers-unsubscr...@audyssey.org. You can make changes or update your subscription via the web, at http://audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org. All messages are archived and can be searched and read at http://www.mail-archive.com/gamers@audyssey.org. If you have any questions or concerns regarding the management of the list, please send E-mail to gamers-ow...@audyssey.org.
Re: [Audyssey] Daytona and the Book of Gold
I wanted to let everyone know that the beta has just been released. Head on over to audiogames.net, download the game, and let me know what you think! :D http://forum.audiogames.net/viewtopic.php?id=4595 --- Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to gamers-unsubscr...@audyssey.org. You can make changes or update your subscription via the web, at http://audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org. All messages are archived and can be searched and read at http://www.mail-archive.com/gamers@audyssey.org. If you have any questions or concerns regarding the management of the list, please send E-mail to gamers-ow...@audyssey.org.
Re: [Audyssey] BGT and Screen Reader API's
The ghosts are still synthetic. That always detracted from the gameplay for me. We are the Knights who say...Ni! - Original Message - From: "Thomas Ward" To: "Gamers Discussion list" Sent: Wednesday, January 05, 2011 10:14 AM Subject: Re: [Audyssey] BGT and Screen Reader API's Hi Bryan, Ummm...Synthetic voices in Sarah? What version are you talking about? Sarah 1.0 and 1.1 use a lot of human speech recordings. The caretaker is human, all of Sarah's lines are done by a real person, and about the only thing that is synthetic is the ghosts and the help menu. Other than that the rest are human actors. On 1/5/11, Bryan Peterson wrote: We'll have to agree to disagree. I personally can't stand synthetic speach in games unless the characters represented happen to be machines. That's probably why I could never quite get into the Sarah game. We are the Knights who say...Ni! --- Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to gamers-unsubscr...@audyssey.org. You can make changes or update your subscription via the web, at http://audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org. All messages are archived and can be searched and read at http://www.mail-archive.com/gamers@audyssey.org. If you have any questions or concerns regarding the management of the list, please send E-mail to gamers-ow...@audyssey.org. --- Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to gamers-unsubscr...@audyssey.org. You can make changes or update your subscription via the web, at http://audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org. All messages are archived and can be searched and read at http://www.mail-archive.com/gamers@audyssey.org. If you have any questions or concerns regarding the management of the list, please send E-mail to gamers-ow...@audyssey.org.
Re: [Audyssey] BGT and Screen Reader API's
Hi Jim, Well, once again this is an issue that depends on the type of game the developer is attempting to create. In your games like Monopoly I certainly don't mind a Sapi voice speaking out the information because it is very dinamic and there doesn't need to be any acting in it. However, most modern first-person and third-person vidio games for the mainstream market are like interactive movies with scenes between the levels, heavy dialog, and in-game comments from the player. In cases like that you most definitely want a human actor to do the work and voice overs for the game. Can you imagine using Microsoft Anna as the voice of Mara Jade in Mysteries of the Sith? Well, it wouldn't work because Microsoft Anna etc couldn't express the same degree of emotions. There are certain in-game scenes like the one where Mara confronts Kyle in the Sith temple and it gets extremely tense. Kyle tries to talk Mara Jade into becoming his Sith apprentice, and she ends up telling him to stick it where the sun don't shine. I couldn't imagine two Sapi voices doing that scene justice. Smile. On 1/5/11, Jim Kitchen wrote: > Hi Valiant, > > I have two problems with recorded speech for games. Well maybe three. One > is that I just do not care for human speech in games. Much prefer a > synthesizer. Two is the amount of time that it takes to do that for a game. > Not to mention the extra code that it takes. And three is the flexibility > factor. And not just the fact that you do not want to change the speech > rate, but even more so the ability to speak anything in the game. You know > like people would not have been able to create a hundred or so boards for my > monopoly game, or hundreds of golf courses for my golf game. And of course > all of my games that ask you to input your name for use in the game or for > the record. > > BFN > > Jim > > Danger! Human at keyboard! > > j...@kitchensinc.net > http://www.kitchensinc.net > (440) 286-6920 > Chardon Ohio USA > --- > Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org > If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to > gamers-unsubscr...@audyssey.org. > You can make changes or update your subscription via the web, at > http://audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org. > All messages are archived and can be searched and read at > http://www.mail-archive.com/gamers@audyssey.org. > If you have any questions or concerns regarding the management of the list, > please send E-mail to gamers-ow...@audyssey.org. > --- Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to gamers-unsubscr...@audyssey.org. You can make changes or update your subscription via the web, at http://audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org. All messages are archived and can be searched and read at http://www.mail-archive.com/gamers@audyssey.org. If you have any questions or concerns regarding the management of the list, please send E-mail to gamers-ow...@audyssey.org.
Re: [Audyssey] BGT and Screen Reader API's
HiPhilip, Hahaha. Microsoft Anna sounding like a bank robber. Oh, now that would be a blast. It would be so aweful it would be funny. Seriously, I know exactly what you mean. back in the earlier days when working on Mysteries of the Ancients I had one of the Sapi voices doing the voice for Angela Carter as place holders until I could get an actor to do the parts. As it happened I haven't found that perfect actress yet, but it was so lame hearing this Sapi voice trying to say "watch it" in an even monotone. Like boring! On 1/5/11, Philip Bennefall wrote: > Hi Jim, > > I must disagree with you on principle, but agree with you on some practical > points. Smile. You are absolutely right in that a synthesizer is infinitely > more flexible than prerecorded audio, but this flexibility comes at an > obvious cost. Imagine having the dialog in Q9 or Kringle Crash spoken by > NeoSpeech Paul, or the bank robbers in Grizly Gulch voiced by Microsoft > Anna? I'm sure you see my drift. Yet I fully agree that for the types of > games you mentioned, which is to say Monopoly and your golf game, tts is > probably a better choice as you have so much dynamic text there. The same > goes for a game like Entombed. But try to do anything even remotely dramatic > or atmospheric, and tts falls flat on its face. > > Kind regards, > > Philip Bennefall --- Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to gamers-unsubscr...@audyssey.org. You can make changes or update your subscription via the web, at http://audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org. All messages are archived and can be searched and read at http://www.mail-archive.com/gamers@audyssey.org. If you have any questions or concerns regarding the management of the list, please send E-mail to gamers-ow...@audyssey.org.
Re: [Audyssey] BGT and Screen Reader API's
Hi Bryan, Ummm...Synthetic voices in Sarah? What version are you talking about? Sarah 1.0 and 1.1 use a lot of human speech recordings. The caretaker is human, all of Sarah's lines are done by a real person, and about the only thing that is synthetic is the ghosts and the help menu. Other than that the rest are human actors. On 1/5/11, Bryan Peterson wrote: > We'll have to agree to disagree. I personally can't stand synthetic speach > in games unless the characters represented happen to be machines. That's > probably why I could never quite get into the Sarah game. > We are the Knights who say...Ni! --- Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to gamers-unsubscr...@audyssey.org. You can make changes or update your subscription via the web, at http://audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org. All messages are archived and can be searched and read at http://www.mail-archive.com/gamers@audyssey.org. If you have any questions or concerns regarding the management of the list, please send E-mail to gamers-ow...@audyssey.org.
Re: [Audyssey] BGT and Screen Reader API's
Hi Bryan, Well, I find that a bit unusual. Back when I started using screen readers in the 1990's the first hardware sinth I owned was a Dectalk. I fell in love with the Dectalk voice and I always felt it was hundreds of times better than the accent, Keynote, Doubletalk, and other choices at the time. Most Window-Eyes users I know love the Dectalk Access Software, and so do I. I guess I never thought anyone would willingly take Eloquence over Dectalk. Eloquence is terrible and too robotic in my book, and I always felt the Dectalk was more human sounding. In fact, I own the Linux version of Dectalk Access that works with Orca as well. On 1/5/11, Bryan Peterson wrote: > I agree with you there. I myself se Eloquence with WIndow-Eyes, but if it > weren't for the fast response rate I wouldn't bother. And while Dectalk is > also included that's a voice I can't listen to for extended periods unless > I'm making it sing. > We are the Knights who say...Ni! --- Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to gamers-unsubscr...@audyssey.org. You can make changes or update your subscription via the web, at http://audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org. All messages are archived and can be searched and read at http://www.mail-archive.com/gamers@audyssey.org. If you have any questions or concerns regarding the management of the list, please send E-mail to gamers-ow...@audyssey.org.
Re: [Audyssey] BGT and Screen Reader API's
Hi Jim, Well, in that way we are a lot alike. Although, I'm on facebook, am on instant messenger, etc I generally don't do that while playing games too. I tend to do one thing at a time. If I'm chatting on AIM I'm chatting on AIM. If I'm chatting on facebook I'm chatting on facebook. If I'm playing a game that's probably all I'm doing at the time. So have never really had a need to have a screen reader running while the game is running. However, I have set up the input system to disable DirectInput when the window doesn't have focus to allow those people who like to multitask too play the game and switch between other applications as well. However, personally I've never found it that big a deal. Smile. On 1/5/11, Jim Kitchen wrote: > Hi Philip and Thomas, > > Guess that maybe I am lucky in that I have some really nice sapi5 voices. > Like AT&T Lauren, Crystal, Charles, Mike etc as well as Neo Speech Kate and > Paul. But seriously I like most of my sapi5 voices much better than > Eloquence. I write allot of personal applications such as my Email program > etc that use sapi5 and just really like them better than Eloquence. So > personally I do not miss Eloquence in games. Guess also since when I am > playing a game, that is what I am doing and thus have no problem shutting > off Jaws. You know I am not getting Email, instant messages or other > applications trying to bother me while I am playing that I might need a > screen reader such as Jaws to be active. But hey I have always felt that I > was at least on the fringe of normality. > > BFN > > Jim > --- Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to gamers-unsubscr...@audyssey.org. You can make changes or update your subscription via the web, at http://audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org. All messages are archived and can be searched and read at http://www.mail-archive.com/gamers@audyssey.org. If you have any questions or concerns regarding the management of the list, please send E-mail to gamers-ow...@audyssey.org.
Re: [Audyssey] BGT and Screen Reader API's
Not necessarily. In x hour, I think the voice as the intro to the mission works interestingly well, and in that episode is ok I guess. But the rest of it I don't like at all. --- Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to gamers-unsubscr...@audyssey.org. You can make changes or update your subscription via the web, at http://audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org. All messages are archived and can be searched and read at http://www.mail-archive.com/gamers@audyssey.org. If you have any questions or concerns regarding the management of the list, please send E-mail to gamers-ow...@audyssey.org.
[Audyssey] online events for Wednesday, January 5
Here are the events for the Out of Sight community: >From the Pulpit 7:00 PM eastern Hosted by Lee from WV Location: House of Our Lord Come listen to a live service, which will include, worship, music, preaching, and special singing. Chain Reaction 8:00 PM eastern Hosted by Shelley Z. Location: Game Zone If you liked Chain Reaction the television game show, you'll love our online version. Join Shelley Z as she provides you with clues to complete a chain of words and accumulate points for your team. If you want more information, go to: http://www.out-of-sight.net/rooms/games/cr.htm Here are the events at In The Blind Spot: 1:00 PM ET Snowy's Selections Blind Spot Radio Broadcast Hosted by DJ Snowy 3:00 PM ET Mississippi Game Mississippi Room Hosted by Tiffany 9:00 PM ET password Game Spot Hosted by Velvet --- Shepherds are the best beasts! --- Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to gamers-unsubscr...@audyssey.org. You can make changes or update your subscription via the web, at http://audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org. All messages are archived and can be searched and read at http://www.mail-archive.com/gamers@audyssey.org. If you have any questions or concerns regarding the management of the list, please send E-mail to gamers-ow...@audyssey.org.
Re: [Audyssey] BGT and Screen Reader API's
Hi Bryan, Most of the Sarah game is spoken by humans. Sarah speaks hundreds of things and the Caretaker is done by Josh. I got volunteers to be Sarah's Father and Mother, and the Sphinx, and Mrs. Honeyduke, Sir Cadagan and the 7 potion puzzle in the update. The only voices that are synthesized are the ghosts. And Peeves. and Crystal for the f1 help menus. Phil - Original Message - From: "Bryan Peterson" To: "Gamers Discussion list" Sent: Wednesday, January 05, 2011 10:48 AM Subject: Re: [Audyssey] BGT and Screen Reader API's We'll have to agree to disagree. I personally can't stand synthetic speach in games unless the characters represented happen to be machines. That's probably why I could never quite get into the Sarah game. We are the Knights who say...Ni! - Original Message - From: "Kai" To: "Gamers Discussion list" Sent: Tuesday, January 04, 2011 9:06 PM Subject: Re: [Audyssey] BGT and Screen Reader API's I believe that I did say games with pre-recorded voices did usually have the highest quality, just the least configurability. And the quality of the game is, in my opinion, hardly dictated by the medium of dictation; someone could make a guess-the-number game with top-of-the tier professional actors and actresses, full ensembles, and the works, and it'll still be a boring guess the number game. conversely, someone could make a game with poorly recorded speech, or speech reliant on espeaks, slightly low-quality sound effects, but if their game is in-depth, full of detail and replayability, that game will ultimately be more enjoyable. Audio quality, while important, is not the fulcrum of a game's value or quality. Kai - Original Message - From: "Hayden Presley" To: "'Gamers Discussion list'" Sent: Tuesday, January 04, 2011 7:44 PM Subject: Re: [Audyssey] BGT and Screen Reader API's Hi, Wow...are you serious? Those tend to have the best quality of all systems; plus I find that rate makes a lot less of a difference with human voices. Trust me; you'll always get better quality games (imho) with recorded speech. Best Regards, Hayden -Original Message- From: gamers-boun...@audyssey.org [mailto:gamers-boun...@audyssey.org] On Behalf Of Kai Sent: Tuesday, January 04, 2011 9:07 PM To: Gamers Discussion list Subject: Re: [Audyssey] BGT and Screen Reader API's Greetings Valiant. I tend to dislike pre-recorded speech systems. Although they do deliver the highest naturality, they're also the slowest and least configurable (someone records the lines, you're stuck with the rate they chose to record at). SAPI also doesn't fair very well when sped up; speech becomes very choppy and unattractive. It's for these reasons that I oft prefer Eloquence over SAPI and the like. If only Espeaks sounded better, or that Eloquence / Via Voice were available in SAPI 5 format... Kai - Original Message - From: "Valiant8086" To: "Gamers Discussion list" Sent: Tuesday, January 04, 2011 1:25 PM Subject: Re: [Audyssey] BGT and Screen Reader API's Hi. There is a high quality prerecorded voiceover system in the works that may or may not be implemented into bgt. If not, it'll be available elsewhere. For the most part, it is not practical to include screen readers in audio game's output. JAWS isn't the only screen reader with the keyboard problems. These problems aren't an indication of bad quality drivers. It just means the screen reader has access to the keyboard at as low a level as the game and is intercepting it for it's own use. NVDA has been specifically constructed so as not to present this problem. Other screen readers pass on the keystrokes, but introduce delays as the reader attempts to do what it has been programmed to do with the arrow keys, but still passes on the orriginal functionality. A good way to get around the problem is to use something other than the arrow keys, but then if the reader is set to echo keypresses, it can be annoying if the screen reader is trying to speak a key when you have that key held down. It could be that sometime there will be a good use for a screen reader in a BGT based application, but for the time being, I think screen reader support is pointless. Developers should probably either use SAPI, or use recorded voiceovers. On 1/3/2011 6:02 PM, Kai wrote: Greetings list. anyone know if BGT has any provisions for interacting with the various screen reader API's? I would, for instance, like to replace a lot of the SAPI TTS events with direct Jaws speech output, since Eloquence is about 200 times faster than SaPI. If not, anyone know if this will be slated for a future release? Kai --- Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to gamers-unsubscr...@audyssey.org. You can make changes or update your subscription via the web, at http://audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org. All messages are archived and can be
Re: [Audyssey] BGT and Screen Reader API's
I agree with you there. I myself se Eloquence with WIndow-Eyes, but if it weren't for the fast response rate I wouldn't bother. And while Dectalk is also included that's a voice I can't listen to for extended periods unless I'm making it sing. We are the Knights who say...Ni! - Original Message - From: "Thomas Ward" To: "Gamers Discussion list" Sent: Tuesday, January 04, 2011 9:38 PM Subject: Re: [Audyssey] BGT and Screen Reader API's Hi Hayden, I hear you there. Some games like Q9 are fantastic with actual human speech rather than Sapi or Eloquence. Personally, I think Eloquence sounds terrible, and other than the fact it is fast/responsive I would never even use the thing. I hate that voice with a passion, and never willingly use it with a game. I think someone is a bit insane to want to use it in games over actual human speech. Smile. On 1/4/11, Hayden Presley wrote: Hi, Wow...are you serious? Those tend to have the best quality of all systems; plus I find that rate makes a lot less of a difference with human voices. Trust me; you'll always get better quality games (imho) with recorded speech. Best Regards, Hayden --- Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to gamers-unsubscr...@audyssey.org. You can make changes or update your subscription via the web, at http://audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org. All messages are archived and can be searched and read at http://www.mail-archive.com/gamers@audyssey.org. If you have any questions or concerns regarding the management of the list, please send E-mail to gamers-ow...@audyssey.org. --- Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to gamers-unsubscr...@audyssey.org. You can make changes or update your subscription via the web, at http://audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org. All messages are archived and can be searched and read at http://www.mail-archive.com/gamers@audyssey.org. If you have any questions or concerns regarding the management of the list, please send E-mail to gamers-ow...@audyssey.org.
Re: [Audyssey] BGT and Screen Reader API's
We'll have to agree to disagree. I personally can't stand synthetic speach in games unless the characters represented happen to be machines. That's probably why I could never quite get into the Sarah game. We are the Knights who say...Ni! - Original Message - From: "Kai" To: "Gamers Discussion list" Sent: Tuesday, January 04, 2011 9:06 PM Subject: Re: [Audyssey] BGT and Screen Reader API's I believe that I did say games with pre-recorded voices did usually have the highest quality, just the least configurability. And the quality of the game is, in my opinion, hardly dictated by the medium of dictation; someone could make a guess-the-number game with top-of-the tier professional actors and actresses, full ensembles, and the works, and it'll still be a boring guess the number game. conversely, someone could make a game with poorly recorded speech, or speech reliant on espeaks, slightly low-quality sound effects, but if their game is in-depth, full of detail and replayability, that game will ultimately be more enjoyable. Audio quality, while important, is not the fulcrum of a game's value or quality. Kai - Original Message - From: "Hayden Presley" To: "'Gamers Discussion list'" Sent: Tuesday, January 04, 2011 7:44 PM Subject: Re: [Audyssey] BGT and Screen Reader API's Hi, Wow...are you serious? Those tend to have the best quality of all systems; plus I find that rate makes a lot less of a difference with human voices. Trust me; you'll always get better quality games (imho) with recorded speech. Best Regards, Hayden -Original Message- From: gamers-boun...@audyssey.org [mailto:gamers-boun...@audyssey.org] On Behalf Of Kai Sent: Tuesday, January 04, 2011 9:07 PM To: Gamers Discussion list Subject: Re: [Audyssey] BGT and Screen Reader API's Greetings Valiant. I tend to dislike pre-recorded speech systems. Although they do deliver the highest naturality, they're also the slowest and least configurable (someone records the lines, you're stuck with the rate they chose to record at). SAPI also doesn't fair very well when sped up; speech becomes very choppy and unattractive. It's for these reasons that I oft prefer Eloquence over SAPI and the like. If only Espeaks sounded better, or that Eloquence / Via Voice were available in SAPI 5 format... Kai - Original Message - From: "Valiant8086" To: "Gamers Discussion list" Sent: Tuesday, January 04, 2011 1:25 PM Subject: Re: [Audyssey] BGT and Screen Reader API's Hi. There is a high quality prerecorded voiceover system in the works that may or may not be implemented into bgt. If not, it'll be available elsewhere. For the most part, it is not practical to include screen readers in audio game's output. JAWS isn't the only screen reader with the keyboard problems. These problems aren't an indication of bad quality drivers. It just means the screen reader has access to the keyboard at as low a level as the game and is intercepting it for it's own use. NVDA has been specifically constructed so as not to present this problem. Other screen readers pass on the keystrokes, but introduce delays as the reader attempts to do what it has been programmed to do with the arrow keys, but still passes on the orriginal functionality. A good way to get around the problem is to use something other than the arrow keys, but then if the reader is set to echo keypresses, it can be annoying if the screen reader is trying to speak a key when you have that key held down. It could be that sometime there will be a good use for a screen reader in a BGT based application, but for the time being, I think screen reader support is pointless. Developers should probably either use SAPI, or use recorded voiceovers. On 1/3/2011 6:02 PM, Kai wrote: Greetings list. anyone know if BGT has any provisions for interacting with the various screen reader API's? I would, for instance, like to replace a lot of the SAPI TTS events with direct Jaws speech output, since Eloquence is about 200 times faster than SaPI. If not, anyone know if this will be slated for a future release? Kai --- Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to gamers-unsubscr...@audyssey.org. You can make changes or update your subscription via the web, at http://audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org. All messages are archived and can be searched and read at http://www.mail-archive.com/gamers@audyssey.org. If you have any questions or concerns regarding the management of the list, please send E-mail to gamers-ow...@audyssey.org. --- Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to gamers-unsubscr...@audyssey.org. You can make changes or update your subscription via the web, at http://audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org. All messages are archived and can be searched and read at http://www.mail-archive.com/gamers@audyssey.org. If yo
Re: [Audyssey] two games.
Could the answers to your questions be found out by trying it yourself? --- Shepherds are the best beasts! - Original Message - From: "michael barnes" To: Sent: Wednesday, January 05, 2011 7:02 AM Subject: Re: [Audyssey] two games. when you unlock the other two levels does voice over read those two buttons? and what about the two player and credit buttons does it ever read those two buttons? and how about the done button? as you might not know i'm totally blind so these things are important for me to know. -- Email services provided by the System Access Mobile Network. Visit www.serotek.com to learn more about accessibility anywhere. --- Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to gamers-unsubscr...@audyssey.org. You can make changes or update your subscription via the web, at http://audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org. All messages are archived and can be searched and read at http://www.mail-archive.com/gamers@audyssey.org. If you have any questions or concerns regarding the management of the list, please send E-mail to gamers-ow...@audyssey.org. --- Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to gamers-unsubscr...@audyssey.org. You can make changes or update your subscription via the web, at http://audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org. All messages are archived and can be searched and read at http://www.mail-archive.com/gamers@audyssey.org. If you have any questions or concerns regarding the management of the list, please send E-mail to gamers-ow...@audyssey.org.
Re: [Audyssey] BGT and Screen Reader API's
Hi Jim, I must disagree with you on principle, but agree with you on some practical points. Smile. You are absolutely right in that a synthesizer is infinitely more flexible than prerecorded audio, but this flexibility comes at an obvious cost. Imagine having the dialog in Q9 or Kringle Crash spoken by NeoSpeech Paul, or the bank robbers in Grizly Gulch voiced by Microsoft Anna? I'm sure you see my drift. Yet I fully agree that for the types of games you mentioned, which is to say Monopoly and your golf game, tts is probably a better choice as you have so much dynamic text there. The same goes for a game like Entombed. But try to do anything even remotely dramatic or atmospheric, and tts falls flat on its face. Kind regards, Philip Bennefall - Original Message - From: "Jim Kitchen" To: "Valiant8086" Sent: Wednesday, January 05, 2011 3:17 PM Subject: Re: [Audyssey] BGT and Screen Reader API's Hi Valiant, I have two problems with recorded speech for games. Well maybe three. One is that I just do not care for human speech in games. Much prefer a synthesizer. Two is the amount of time that it takes to do that for a game. Not to mention the extra code that it takes. And three is the flexibility factor. And not just the fact that you do not want to change the speech rate, but even more so the ability to speak anything in the game. You know like people would not have been able to create a hundred or so boards for my monopoly game, or hundreds of golf courses for my golf game. And of course all of my games that ask you to input your name for use in the game or for the record. BFN Jim Danger! Human at keyboard! j...@kitchensinc.net http://www.kitchensinc.net (440) 286-6920 Chardon Ohio USA --- Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to gamers-unsubscr...@audyssey.org. You can make changes or update your subscription via the web, at http://audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org. All messages are archived and can be searched and read at http://www.mail-archive.com/gamers@audyssey.org. If you have any questions or concerns regarding the management of the list, please send E-mail to gamers-ow...@audyssey.org. --- Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to gamers-unsubscr...@audyssey.org. You can make changes or update your subscription via the web, at http://audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org. All messages are archived and can be searched and read at http://www.mail-archive.com/gamers@audyssey.org. If you have any questions or concerns regarding the management of the list, please send E-mail to gamers-ow...@audyssey.org.
Re: [Audyssey] two games.
It sees all the buttons but they are unlabeled. -Original Message- From: gamers-boun...@audyssey.org [mailto:gamers-boun...@audyssey.org] On Behalf Of michael barnes Sent: Wednesday, January 05, 2011 8:02 AM To: gamers@audyssey.org Subject: Re: [Audyssey] two games. when you unlock the other two levels does voice over read those two buttons? and what about the two player and credit buttons does it ever read those two buttons? and how about the done button? as you might not know i'm totally blind so these things are important for me to know. -- Email services provided by the System Access Mobile Network. Visit www.serotek.com to learn more about accessibility anywhere. --- Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to gamers-unsubscr...@audyssey.org. You can make changes or update your subscription via the web, at http://audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org. All messages are archived and can be searched and read at http://www.mail-archive.com/gamers@audyssey.org. If you have any questions or concerns regarding the management of the list, please send E-mail to gamers-ow...@audyssey.org. --- Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to gamers-unsubscr...@audyssey.org. You can make changes or update your subscription via the web, at http://audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org. All messages are archived and can be searched and read at http://www.mail-archive.com/gamers@audyssey.org. If you have any questions or concerns regarding the management of the list, please send E-mail to gamers-ow...@audyssey.org.
Re: [Audyssey] BGT and Screen Reader API's
Hi Valiant, I have two problems with recorded speech for games. Well maybe three. One is that I just do not care for human speech in games. Much prefer a synthesizer. Two is the amount of time that it takes to do that for a game. Not to mention the extra code that it takes. And three is the flexibility factor. And not just the fact that you do not want to change the speech rate, but even more so the ability to speak anything in the game. You know like people would not have been able to create a hundred or so boards for my monopoly game, or hundreds of golf courses for my golf game. And of course all of my games that ask you to input your name for use in the game or for the record. BFN Jim Danger! Human at keyboard! j...@kitchensinc.net http://www.kitchensinc.net (440) 286-6920 Chardon Ohio USA --- Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to gamers-unsubscr...@audyssey.org. You can make changes or update your subscription via the web, at http://audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org. All messages are archived and can be searched and read at http://www.mail-archive.com/gamers@audyssey.org. If you have any questions or concerns regarding the management of the list, please send E-mail to gamers-ow...@audyssey.org.
Re: [Audyssey] zany touch
It doesn't end. It get faster and faster. -Original Message- From: gamers-boun...@audyssey.org [mailto:gamers-boun...@audyssey.org] On Behalf Of michael barnes Sent: Wednesday, January 05, 2011 2:30 AM To: gamers@audyssey.org Subject: Re: [Audyssey] zany touch well after i went to play with it some more i figure it out. what i got to do is select my level then while she say get ready that is the time for me to shut it down i mean right after i select the level. i got 136 points but how long do you have to play for the game to end. -- Email services provided by the System Access Mobile Network. Visit www.serotek.com to learn more about accessibility anywhere. --- Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to gamers-unsubscr...@audyssey.org. You can make changes or update your subscription via the web, at http://audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org. All messages are archived and can be searched and read at http://www.mail-archive.com/gamers@audyssey.org. If you have any questions or concerns regarding the management of the list, please send E-mail to gamers-ow...@audyssey.org. _ NOD32 EMON 5760 (20110104) information _ This message was checked by NOD32 antivirus system http://www.eset.com _ NOD32 EMON 5761 (20110105) information _ This message was checked by NOD32 antivirus system http://www.eset.com _ NOD32 EMON 5761 (20110105) information _ This message was checked by NOD32 antivirus system http://www.eset.com --- Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to gamers-unsubscr...@audyssey.org. You can make changes or update your subscription via the web, at http://audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org. All messages are archived and can be searched and read at http://www.mail-archive.com/gamers@audyssey.org. If you have any questions or concerns regarding the management of the list, please send E-mail to gamers-ow...@audyssey.org.
Re: [Audyssey] two games.
Is there a way to reset the high score to 0 so you can start over? -Original Message- From: gamers-boun...@audyssey.org [mailto:gamers-boun...@audyssey.org] On Behalf Of Karl Belanger Sent: Wednesday, January 05, 2011 6:49 AM To: 'Gamers Discussion list' Subject: Re: [Audyssey] two games. The buttens are Easy, Medium, Hard, two-player, and credits. If you lose a game and do not beat your high score, you will be put on a screen with just a done button in the middle. -Original Message- From: gamers-boun...@audyssey.org [mailto:gamers-boun...@audyssey.org] On Behalf Of michael barnes Sent: Wednesday, January 05, 2011 3:34 AM To: gamers@audyssey.org Subject: Re: [Audyssey] two games. what is the buttons on smack me that ain't label. -- Email services provided by the System Access Mobile Network. Visit www.serotek.com to learn more about accessibility anywhere. --- Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to gamers-unsubscr...@audyssey.org. You can make changes or update your subscription via the web, at http://audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org. All messages are archived and can be searched and read at http://www.mail-archive.com/gamers@audyssey.org. If you have any questions or concerns regarding the management of the list, please send E-mail to gamers-ow...@audyssey.org. --- Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to gamers-unsubscr...@audyssey.org. You can make changes or update your subscription via the web, at http://audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org. All messages are archived and can be searched and read at http://www.mail-archive.com/gamers@audyssey.org. If you have any questions or concerns regarding the management of the list, please send E-mail to gamers-ow...@audyssey.org. _ NOD32 EMON 5761 (20110105) information _ This message was checked by NOD32 antivirus system http://www.eset.com _ NOD32 EMON 5761 (20110105) information _ This message was checked by NOD32 antivirus system http://www.eset.com --- Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to gamers-unsubscr...@audyssey.org. You can make changes or update your subscription via the web, at http://audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org. All messages are archived and can be searched and read at http://www.mail-archive.com/gamers@audyssey.org. If you have any questions or concerns regarding the management of the list, please send E-mail to gamers-ow...@audyssey.org.
Re: [Audyssey] two games.
when you unlock the other two levels does voice over read those two buttons? and what about the two player and credit buttons does it ever read those two buttons? and how about the done button? as you might not know i'm totally blind so these things are important for me to know. -- Email services provided by the System Access Mobile Network. Visit www.serotek.com to learn more about accessibility anywhere. --- Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to gamers-unsubscr...@audyssey.org. You can make changes or update your subscription via the web, at http://audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org. All messages are archived and can be searched and read at http://www.mail-archive.com/gamers@audyssey.org. If you have any questions or concerns regarding the management of the list, please send E-mail to gamers-ow...@audyssey.org.
Re: [Audyssey] two games.
well, in smack me when you start the gamed there are 3 difficulty levels. the buttons in sequence is level1, 2, and 3. and you have to unlock them. so initially only level1 will be available, the rest will be dimmed. if you get 100% on level1, then level2 will be available. etc. there are also 2 other buttons which are 2-player game and credits. - Original Message - From: "michael barnes" To: Sent: Wednesday, January 05, 2011 9:01 AM Subject: [Audyssey] two games. hey the first game i would like to ask about is smack me on the iphone. when i went to www.applevis.com it said that not all of the buttons are label so does anyone know what those buttons that are not label do? the second game is call blind maze and it is for the iphone i was wondering if someone could tell me how to get through some of those mazes -- Email services provided by the System Access Mobile Network. Visit www.serotek.com to learn more about accessibility anywhere. --- Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to gamers-unsubscr...@audyssey.org. You can make changes or update your subscription via the web, at http://audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org. All messages are archived and can be searched and read at http://www.mail-archive.com/gamers@audyssey.org. If you have any questions or concerns regarding the management of the list, please send E-mail to gamers-ow...@audyssey.org. __ Information from ESET Smart Security, version of virus signature database 5266 (20100709) __ The message was checked by ESET Smart Security. http://www.eset.com __ Information from ESET Smart Security, version of virus signature database 5266 (20100709) __ The message was checked by ESET Smart Security. http://www.eset.com --- Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to gamers-unsubscr...@audyssey.org. You can make changes or update your subscription via the web, at http://audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org. All messages are archived and can be searched and read at http://www.mail-archive.com/gamers@audyssey.org. If you have any questions or concerns regarding the management of the list, please send E-mail to gamers-ow...@audyssey.org.
Re: [Audyssey] two games.
The buttens are Easy, Medium, Hard, two-player, and credits. If you lose a game and do not beat your high score, you will be put on a screen with just a done button in the middle. -Original Message- From: gamers-boun...@audyssey.org [mailto:gamers-boun...@audyssey.org] On Behalf Of michael barnes Sent: Wednesday, January 05, 2011 3:34 AM To: gamers@audyssey.org Subject: Re: [Audyssey] two games. what is the buttons on smack me that ain't label. -- Email services provided by the System Access Mobile Network. Visit www.serotek.com to learn more about accessibility anywhere. --- Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to gamers-unsubscr...@audyssey.org. You can make changes or update your subscription via the web, at http://audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org. All messages are archived and can be searched and read at http://www.mail-archive.com/gamers@audyssey.org. If you have any questions or concerns regarding the management of the list, please send E-mail to gamers-ow...@audyssey.org. --- Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to gamers-unsubscr...@audyssey.org. You can make changes or update your subscription via the web, at http://audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org. All messages are archived and can be searched and read at http://www.mail-archive.com/gamers@audyssey.org. If you have any questions or concerns regarding the management of the list, please send E-mail to gamers-ow...@audyssey.org.
Re: [Audyssey] BGT and Screen Reader API's
well I usually leave all clients off unless I need em open I don't background run tasks. This is mainly due to the fact I spend time playing games, some doing text books but most listening to sfx and audio drama I don't want to have to answer messages. At 11:43 p.m. 5/01/2011, you wrote: Hi Philip and Thomas, Guess that maybe I am lucky in that I have some really nice sapi5 voices. Like AT&T Lauren, Crystal, Charles, Mike etc as well as Neo Speech Kate and Paul. But seriously I like most of my sapi5 voices much better than Eloquence. I write allot of personal applications such as my Email program etc that use sapi5 and just really like them better than Eloquence. So personally I do not miss Eloquence in games. Guess also since when I am playing a game, that is what I am doing and thus have no problem shutting off Jaws. You know I am not getting Email, instant messages or other applications trying to bother me while I am playing that I might need a screen reader such as Jaws to be active. But hey I have always felt that I was at least on the fringe of normality. BFN Jim "Normal" is a setting on a washing machine. j...@kitchensinc.net http://www.kitchensinc.net (440) 286-6920 Chardon Ohio USA --- Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to gamers-unsubscr...@audyssey.org. You can make changes or update your subscription via the web, at http://audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org. All messages are archived and can be searched and read at http://www.mail-archive.com/gamers@audyssey.org. If you have any questions or concerns regarding the management of the list, please send E-mail to gamers-ow...@audyssey.org. --- Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to gamers-unsubscr...@audyssey.org. You can make changes or update your subscription via the web, at http://audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org. All messages are archived and can be searched and read at http://www.mail-archive.com/gamers@audyssey.org. If you have any questions or concerns regarding the management of the list, please send E-mail to gamers-ow...@audyssey.org.
Re: [Audyssey] Audyssey babble report for All of 2010 part 2
Hi Shiny protector, I'm not sure what was up. This was the third time that I sent those babble and thread messages to the list. The first time was 6:00 AM January first. Maybe the list server partied too hard New Years Eve and lost my posts. My Email program down loads all of my Email into one text file. AT&T Crystal reads me that text file in a continuous manner. Once I am done with it, another program sorts that text file and appends all of the messages from the Audyssey list into an Audyssey list file. Then another program produces the reports from the Audyssey list text file. I save each months Audyssey text file, combine it and then can produce the yearly reports. It is really all pretty much automatic with the programs that I have written to do the work. BFN Jim The reports of my death have been greatly exaggerated. j...@kitchensinc.net http://www.kitchensinc.net (440) 286-6920 Chardon Ohio USA --- Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to gamers-unsubscr...@audyssey.org. You can make changes or update your subscription via the web, at http://audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org. All messages are archived and can be searched and read at http://www.mail-archive.com/gamers@audyssey.org. If you have any questions or concerns regarding the management of the list, please send E-mail to gamers-ow...@audyssey.org.
Re: [Audyssey] BGT and Screen Reader API's
Hi Philip and Thomas, Guess that maybe I am lucky in that I have some really nice sapi5 voices. Like AT&T Lauren, Crystal, Charles, Mike etc as well as Neo Speech Kate and Paul. But seriously I like most of my sapi5 voices much better than Eloquence. I write allot of personal applications such as my Email program etc that use sapi5 and just really like them better than Eloquence. So personally I do not miss Eloquence in games. Guess also since when I am playing a game, that is what I am doing and thus have no problem shutting off Jaws. You know I am not getting Email, instant messages or other applications trying to bother me while I am playing that I might need a screen reader such as Jaws to be active. But hey I have always felt that I was at least on the fringe of normality. BFN Jim "Normal" is a setting on a washing machine. j...@kitchensinc.net http://www.kitchensinc.net (440) 286-6920 Chardon Ohio USA --- Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to gamers-unsubscr...@audyssey.org. You can make changes or update your subscription via the web, at http://audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org. All messages are archived and can be searched and read at http://www.mail-archive.com/gamers@audyssey.org. If you have any questions or concerns regarding the management of the list, please send E-mail to gamers-ow...@audyssey.org.
Re: [Audyssey] two games.
not sure not played it yet my self. Ian McNamara --- Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to gamers-unsubscr...@audyssey.org. You can make changes or update your subscription via the web, at http://audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org. All messages are archived and can be searched and read at http://www.mail-archive.com/gamers@audyssey.org. If you have any questions or concerns regarding the management of the list, please send E-mail to gamers-ow...@audyssey.org.
Re: [Audyssey] two games.
what is the buttons on smack me that ain't label. -- Email services provided by the System Access Mobile Network. Visit www.serotek.com to learn more about accessibility anywhere. --- Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to gamers-unsubscr...@audyssey.org. You can make changes or update your subscription via the web, at http://audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org. All messages are archived and can be searched and read at http://www.mail-archive.com/gamers@audyssey.org. If you have any questions or concerns regarding the management of the list, please send E-mail to gamers-ow...@audyssey.org.
Re: [Audyssey] two games.
thanks for that another game i can add to my collection of games on the ipod. Ian McNamara --- Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to gamers-unsubscr...@audyssey.org. You can make changes or update your subscription via the web, at http://audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org. All messages are archived and can be searched and read at http://www.mail-archive.com/gamers@audyssey.org. If you have any questions or concerns regarding the management of the list, please send E-mail to gamers-ow...@audyssey.org.
[Audyssey] two games.
hey the first game i would like to ask about is smack me on the iphone. when i went to www.applevis.com it said that not all of the buttons are label so does anyone know what those buttons that are not label do? the second game is call blind maze and it is for the iphone i was wondering if someone could tell me how to get through some of those mazes -- Email services provided by the System Access Mobile Network. Visit www.serotek.com to learn more about accessibility anywhere. --- Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to gamers-unsubscr...@audyssey.org. You can make changes or update your subscription via the web, at http://audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org. All messages are archived and can be searched and read at http://www.mail-archive.com/gamers@audyssey.org. If you have any questions or concerns regarding the management of the list, please send E-mail to gamers-ow...@audyssey.org.
