Re: [Audyssey] eloquence was, Re: Screen reader support in BGT
Maybe it's also a context thing, since, as said in my other mail, I prefer UK eloquence on my phones, but do use american voice quite happily on my computers. Stay well Jacob Kruger Blind Biker Skype: BlindZA '...fate had broken his body, but not his spirit...' - Original Message - From: Shiny protector muhamme...@googlemail.com To: Gamers Discussion list gamers@audyssey.org Sent: Friday, January 21, 2011 8:34 AM Subject: Re: [Audyssey] eloquence was, Re: Screen reader support in BGT Uh. I hate that accent. - Original Message - From: Bryan Peterson bpeterson2...@cableone.net To: Gamers Discussion list gamers@audyssey.org Sent: Thursday, January 20, 2011 10:46 PM Subject: Re: [Audyssey] eloquence was, Re: Screen reader support in BGT I'm just the opposite. If I have to use Eloquence I use the UK accent since the American accent is the one that sounds odd to me. We are the Knights who say...Ni! - Original Message - From: Damien Pendleton dam...@x-sight-interactive.net To: Gamers Discussion list gamers@audyssey.org Sent: Thursday, January 20, 2011 2:05 PM Subject: Re: [Audyssey] eloquence was, Re: Screen reader support in BGT Hi Dark, I totally agree with you with the UK accent, which is precisely why I use the US accent. To be honest I prefer the American accents in speech synths anyway. Again, because that's what I've always used. Regards, Damien. - Original Message - From: dark d...@xgam.org To: Gamers Discussion list gamers@audyssey.org Sent: Thursday, January 20, 2011 8:47 PM Subject: [Audyssey] eloquence was, Re: Screen reader support in BGT It might just be that I am used to orphius human voices, but I've actually never thought much of eloquence, in fact to be honest I've never really thought it was that much better than microsoft Mike. Of course, this might be partially because the eloquence uk english accent is, well incredibly odd to say the least. Beware the grue! Dark. - Original Message - From: Thomas Ward thomasward1...@gmail.com To: Gamers Discussion list gamers@audyssey.org Sent: Thursday, January 20, 2011 6:31 PM Subject: Re: [Audyssey] Screen reader support in BGT Hi, Unfortunately this is true. Eloquence is actually Sapi 4 based not Sapi 5 based. The Dectalk has its own API. Although Fonix did produce a Sapi 5 compatible version of Fonixtalk, AKA Dectalk, for a while. However, it is my understanding they discontinued the Sapi 5 version of Fonixtalk. The best way to support Eloquence is to purchase an SDK for it and wrap Viavoice Outloud directly. It is pretty simple to do and the API for Eloquence AKA Viavoice Outloud is very straight forward for a C++ developer. Problem is that the SDK costs quite a bit to license. Cheers! On 1/20/11, Damien Pendleton dam...@x-sight-interactive.net wrote: Hi Dark, Synth voices like Eloquence and Dectalk are hard to get for SAPI 5 though. I tend to find with SAPI that you go from one extreme to the other. Either a low-sampled, quick but hard to understand one, or a high-sampled, large, slow, laggy, easy to understand one. However they all seem to be sample-based rather than formant-based. Regards, Damien. --- Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to gamers-unsubscr...@audyssey.org. You can make changes or update your subscription via the web, at http://audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org. All messages are archived and can be searched and read at http://www.mail-archive.com/gamers@audyssey.org. If you have any questions or concerns regarding the management of the list, please send E-mail to gamers-ow...@audyssey.org. --- Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to gamers-unsubscr...@audyssey.org. You can make changes or update your subscription via the web, at http://audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org. All messages are archived and can be searched and read at http://www.mail-archive.com/gamers@audyssey.org. If you have any questions or concerns regarding the management of the list, please send E-mail to gamers-ow...@audyssey.org. --- Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to gamers-unsubscr...@audyssey.org. You can make changes or update your subscription via the web, at http://audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org. All messages are archived and can be searched and read at http://www.mail-archive.com/gamers@audyssey.org. If you have any questions or concerns regarding the management of the list, please send E-mail to gamers-ow...@audyssey.org. --- Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to gamers-unsubscr...@audyssey.org. You can make changes or update your subscription via the web, at http://audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org. All messages are archived and can be searched and read at
Re: [Audyssey] eloquence was, Re: Screen reader support in BGT
True enough. Who knows. Another funny one is at least 2 of my phones, with talks on them have had the british version of the eloquence voice on them, and while I prefer it, quite a few other guys this side say they prefer the american version of eloquence on their phones - I think I prefer it since the pronunciation is slightly closer to ours this side, but maybe they prefer the american version since it's what most of us run on our PCs. Stay well Jacob Kruger Blind Biker Skype: BlindZA '...fate had broken his body, but not his spirit...' - Original Message - From: dark d...@xgam.org To: Gamers Discussion list gamers@audyssey.org Sent: Friday, January 21, 2011 8:26 AM Subject: Re: [Audyssey] eloquence was, Re: Screen reader support in BGT Hmmm, the thing is though Jacob, what about startrek or babylon 5 where the computer has an obviously female synth voice? In fact a lot of old scifi tended to have them I think (there were certainly a few in dr. who). Then of course there were the old robotic voices which quite honestly didn't have! a gender. this was imho one of the things which made the original cybermen from the 2nd doctor era and the daleks so inhuman. In fact even now, though the cybermen have changed to sound deffinately male, Daleks are stil referd to as it and other than the emperor aren't said to have a gender at all. Beware the grue! Dark. - Original Message - From: Jacob Kruger jac...@mailzone.co.za To: Gamers Discussion list gamers@audyssey.org Sent: Friday, January 21, 2011 6:00 AM Subject: Re: [Audyssey] eloquence was, Re: Screen reader support in BGT My one possible guess would be that, maybe it has something to do with old visions of technology - talking computer should sound like/sounds better when it sounds like a guy from some movie like revenge of the nerds...? Jacob Kruger Blind Biker Skype: BlindZA '...fate had broken his body, but not his spirit...' - Original Message - From: dark d...@xgam.org To: Gamers Discussion list gamers@audyssey.org Sent: Friday, January 21, 2011 7:48 AM Subject: Re: [Audyssey] eloquence was, Re: Screen reader support in BGT This is a very weerd point, even a female friend I know says the same thing as well. I'm sure freud would have a field day with it, though as this is supposed to be a family friendly list I won't start speculating on what he might've said ;d. The deffinition of a freudian slip: Say one thing and mean your mother! ;D. Btw, I can't speak for the kepstral or atT voices sinse I'm not familiar enough with them, but I've even found this with amazingly good synths like the seerprock ones which are some of the best I know. That's why I tend to stick with scansoft daniel and his nice, bbc news reader voice ;D. Beware the Grue! Dark. - Original Message - From: Thomas Ward thomasward1...@gmail.com To: Gamers Discussion list gamers@audyssey.org Sent: Friday, January 21, 2011 3:06 AM Subject: Re: [Audyssey] eloquence was, Re: Screen reader support in BGT Hi Dark, Very interesting. Generally I've found the same problem. I would prefer a female Sapi voice, but most of them just strike me as wrong. Accapela Heather is not bad and ATT Lorn is okay as well. Some of the others like Scansoft Samantha just sounds like a stuck up old laidy, and is a major turn off. Cepstral Dianne is good for reading books, but some of Cepstral's voices like Amy and Emily are ssimply aweful. However, more often the male voices like David, Walter, Mike, etc are okay. I can listen to them all day with no problem. Cheers! --- Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to gamers-unsubscr...@audyssey.org. You can make changes or update your subscription via the web, at http://audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org. All messages are archived and can be searched and read at http://www.mail-archive.com/gamers@audyssey.org. If you have any questions or concerns regarding the management of the list, please send E-mail to gamers-ow...@audyssey.org. --- Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to gamers-unsubscr...@audyssey.org. You can make changes or update your subscription via the web, at http://audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org. All messages are archived and can be searched and read at http://www.mail-archive.com/gamers@audyssey.org. If you have any questions or concerns regarding the management of the list, please send E-mail to gamers-ow...@audyssey.org. --- Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to gamers-unsubscr...@audyssey.org. You can make changes or update your subscription via the web, at http://audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org. All messages are archived and can be searched and read at http://www.mail-archive.com/gamers@audyssey.org. If you have any questions or concerns
Re: [Audyssey] Community Game-building Project
Why is the game unbeatable? For people not getting tired of it? lol Just curious. Ryan -- Original Message -- From: Ken the Crazy kenwdow...@neo.rr.com To: Gamers Discussion list Gamers@audyssey.org Subject: [Audyssey] Community Game-building Project Date: Thu, 20 Jan 2011 15:50:49 -0500 Well, there has been much talk in the past about a game building project that many people can participate in. Well, I've begun one. Now, here's where the rubber meets the road. Here is where we'll see if gamers are all talk about this subject or if they add their own ideas. The game So far, here is the game, designed in VB6. Yes, it's archaic or whatever, but it's what I know. Wanna translate it? Go ahead. Anyway, the basic idea is that you and a friend just got a couple of those new battle copters, you know, the ones you fly around the house? Well, you're in a living room that's about ten feet high, and 20 by 20. You fly your chopper around the room, trying to shoot down your friend before he gets you. The Trim: Now, you're not the only one that flies this helicopter, because you have a young brother/sister/cousin that plays with it, so every time you start the game you'll need to adjust the trim to 0. To adjust it, use the home and end keys. As you adjust it, you'll hear the clicking of a knob that seems to move around your head. When it gets to 0, the sound of the knob turning will change and be directly in front of you. To fly, hold down the page up key to gain altitude. Since you're flying a helicopter, the faster the rotors turn, the higher it goes. As you increase in height, your velocity in that direction also increases. If you get going too fast you'll smash against the ceiling, and your chopper will fall. You get about ten smashes before it's unusable. Also, page down will slow the rotors, making the chopper descend. You can show off to your friend by landing the chopper on your head, but that takes a lot of work and a little luck. Use left and right arrows to turn, and up and down arrows to fly forward and backward. If you're in range, a target beep sounds, indicating that you're in range to shoot the other copter down. Turn with the left and right arrows until the beeps are in front of you, then shoot with the space bar. If you get him, it's your point--but if he shoots you down, it's his point. In either case, the shot chopper will float down to the ground, and both will respawn at their starting locations, but will retain their former altitudes. The enemy chopper starts out very slow. It always comes after you, but the first little while it is slow. This allows you to adjust your trim, get used to flying and so on. Every time you shoot him though, he flies a bit faster. Eventually, he will outfly and outgun you no matter how good you think you are. Yep, another unbeatable game from DreamTech! (You wouldn't really wanna be able to win now, would ya?) Now, there are obstacles in the room, but you can smash 'em if you want. The first is a TV, which is playing some weird music when the game starts. To smash it, simply fly at an altitude of three feet or less, and go after it. More obstacles, such as lamps, are coming. Controls: Page up for ascend, page down for descend, home and end adjust trim, left and right arrows for turning, a says your current angle, x says your current coordinates, v says your velocity, and space bar fires your gun. Note: This game is not only to be a community project, but it's an early early beta. I've only been working on it for about two weeks now, but there are a couple things to fix. The ones I know are the frequency of the targeting beeps, and the way velocity is spoken--will be integers soon. I know this, and I'll be working on them--but remember, you can too. Also, realize that working with 3d audio isn't nearly as easy as panning and volume--well, it wasn't in the beginning. Now though, that you have a foundation to build on, it should be very simple. I've included a book on programming vb6 that I found on the net, as well as a couple tutorials on 3d audio by Jack Hoxley. Before I tell you where to get the file, I want to encourage developers that programming isn't the only essential here. Sounds and music are crucial too, so if you want to make sounds or music but don't have a clue about programming, you can join in as well. The sound for Heli, your chopper, is basically a motor sound with the sound of a chain saw mixed in. The sky's the limit when it comes to imagination. (Yeah, I know it sounds silly, but wait till you hear it!) OK. Here's the link: http://dl.dropbox.com/u/13071564/heli.zip Now, if you want to be a part of this, get a Dropbox account and let me know. I'll invite you, and our game folders will always be linked, so that I'll instantly know about any changes you make. Ken Downey President DreamTechInteractive! And, Blind Comfort! The pleasant
Re: [Audyssey] eloquence was, Re: Screen reader support in BGT
Actually Jacob, i've always found british eloquence sounds more like what happens when a bad American actor tries! to do a british accent and fails horribly, that's why I dislike it myself and if I were to use eloquence I'd probably want the Us version just for that reason even though for most synths I'd much prefer a british voice, having something of a slightly over posh English accent myself ;D. Baat of cooorse, one is mioast displeeeyeesed; the'att the Quaains E'yengle'yish is see'yo dree'yehdfully Pre'onaaanced, bay the'yose hohrable, Ammee'yerican se'yinths. yee gods! getting orphius to say that poshly enough was bloody hard, and goodness knows what other synths will make of it ;d. Beware the Grue! Dark. --- Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to gamers-unsubscr...@audyssey.org. You can make changes or update your subscription via the web, at http://audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org. All messages are archived and can be searched and read at http://www.mail-archive.com/gamers@audyssey.org. If you have any questions or concerns regarding the management of the list, please send E-mail to gamers-ow...@audyssey.org.
Re: [Audyssey] eloquence was, Re: Screen reader support in BGT
LOL! For example, while the US voice calls me Jacob Kroojer, the british version at least calls me Jacob Kroogger... Have at least once had someone give me a skype VOIP call from America, and then hang up since he didn't want to believe I was really speaking english - sent him an email a bit later trying to 'explain' to him...LOL again! Otherwise, when speaking to UK guys over phone etc., I have once or twice just been asked to speak a bit slower myself - but OTOH, some people like my own mother this side tell me the same thing occasionally - maybe I'm too used to my computer etc. jabbering away, and so do it myself...? Jacob Kruger Blind Biker Skype: BlindZA '...fate had broken his body, but not his spirit...' - Original Message - From: dark d...@xgam.org To: Gamers Discussion list gamers@audyssey.org Sent: Friday, January 21, 2011 10:19 AM Subject: Re: [Audyssey] eloquence was, Re: Screen reader support in BGT Actually Jacob, i've always found british eloquence sounds more like what happens when a bad American actor tries! to do a british accent and fails horribly, that's why I dislike it myself and if I were to use eloquence I'd probably want the Us version just for that reason even though for most synths I'd much prefer a british voice, having something of a slightly over posh English accent myself ;D. Baat of cooorse, one is mioast displeeeyeesed; the'att the Quaains E'yengle'yish is see'yo dree'yehdfully Pre'onaaanced, bay the'yose hohrable, Ammee'yerican se'yinths. yee gods! getting orphius to say that poshly enough was bloody hard, and goodness knows what other synths will make of it ;d. Beware the Grue! Dark. --- Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to gamers-unsubscr...@audyssey.org. You can make changes or update your subscription via the web, at http://audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org. All messages are archived and can be searched and read at http://www.mail-archive.com/gamers@audyssey.org. If you have any questions or concerns regarding the management of the list, please send E-mail to gamers-ow...@audyssey.org. --- Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to gamers-unsubscr...@audyssey.org. You can make changes or update your subscription via the web, at http://audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org. All messages are archived and can be searched and read at http://www.mail-archive.com/gamers@audyssey.org. If you have any questions or concerns regarding the management of the list, please send E-mail to gamers-ow...@audyssey.org.
Re: [Audyssey] eloquence was, Re: Screen reader support in BGT
Hi Jacob, most odd. For kicks I just switched orphius to it's Us english voice and read your mail, and Brad, like the Uk English voice alan pronounced your name as kruger, just like fredy's ;D. That being said, I actually found Brad to have a very odd accent, rather like an English person imitating an American, perhaps then it just depends upon where the screen reader is developed, sinse orphius was made over here and Eloquence is Us based. stil, accents aside, in terms of tone, intonation and clarity I'd stil say I prefer orphius human voices over Eloquence. Beware the grue! Dark. - Original Message - From: Jacob Kruger jac...@mailzone.co.za To: Gamers Discussion list gamers@audyssey.org Sent: Friday, January 21, 2011 9:15 AM Subject: Re: [Audyssey] eloquence was, Re: Screen reader support in BGT LOL! For example, while the US voice calls me Jacob Kroojer, the british version at least calls me Jacob Kroogger... Have at least once had someone give me a skype VOIP call from America, and then hang up since he didn't want to believe I was really speaking english - sent him an email a bit later trying to 'explain' to him...LOL again! Otherwise, when speaking to UK guys over phone etc., I have once or twice just been asked to speak a bit slower myself - but OTOH, some people like my own mother this side tell me the same thing occasionally - maybe I'm too used to my computer etc. jabbering away, and so do it myself...? Jacob Kruger Blind Biker Skype: BlindZA '...fate had broken his body, but not his spirit...' - Original Message - From: dark d...@xgam.org To: Gamers Discussion list gamers@audyssey.org Sent: Friday, January 21, 2011 10:19 AM Subject: Re: [Audyssey] eloquence was, Re: Screen reader support in BGT Actually Jacob, i've always found british eloquence sounds more like what happens when a bad American actor tries! to do a british accent and fails horribly, that's why I dislike it myself and if I were to use eloquence I'd probably want the Us version just for that reason even though for most synths I'd much prefer a british voice, having something of a slightly over posh English accent myself ;D. Baat of cooorse, one is mioast displeeeyeesed; the'att the Quaains E'yengle'yish is see'yo dree'yehdfully Pre'onaaanced, bay the'yose hohrable, Ammee'yerican se'yinths. yee gods! getting orphius to say that poshly enough was bloody hard, and goodness knows what other synths will make of it ;d. Beware the Grue! Dark. --- Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to gamers-unsubscr...@audyssey.org. You can make changes or update your subscription via the web, at http://audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org. All messages are archived and can be searched and read at http://www.mail-archive.com/gamers@audyssey.org. If you have any questions or concerns regarding the management of the list, please send E-mail to gamers-ow...@audyssey.org. --- Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to gamers-unsubscr...@audyssey.org. You can make changes or update your subscription via the web, at http://audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org. All messages are archived and can be searched and read at http://www.mail-archive.com/gamers@audyssey.org. If you have any questions or concerns regarding the management of the list, please send E-mail to gamers-ow...@audyssey.org. --- Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to gamers-unsubscr...@audyssey.org. You can make changes or update your subscription via the web, at http://audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org. All messages are archived and can be searched and read at http://www.mail-archive.com/gamers@audyssey.org. If you have any questions or concerns regarding the management of the list, please send E-mail to gamers-ow...@audyssey.org.
Re: [Audyssey] Game Chat Reminder
oh! good. sevgiler saygilar - Original Message - From: Shiny protector muhamme...@googlemail.com To: Gamers Discussion list gamers@audyssey.org Sent: Thursday, January 20, 2011 5:55 PM Subject: Re: [Audyssey] Game Chat Reminder Hi Burak, Just get rid of them. Thomas and Raul will adventually take this down. - Original Message - From: burakyuksek burakyuksek...@gmail.com To: Gamers Discussion list gamers@audyssey.org Sent: Thursday, January 20, 2011 8:09 AM Subject: Re: [Audyssey] Game Chat Reminder We understand it, dont right it anymore. saygilar sevgiler. - Original Message - From: Gamers Chat Robot gamers-ro...@audyssey.org To: gamers@audyssey.org Sent: Thursday, January 20, 2011 10:00 AM Subject: [Audyssey] Game Chat Reminder Ever wanted to hear what a certain gamer really sounds like? Ever wanted to ask the developer a question about that cool game? Developers, ever wanted to get to know your players? Ever wanted to be able to answer questions asked by your players? Here is your chance to do all these things and more. All you need is a Windows system with a working sound card and microphone. The service is free to use after you complete the simple registration process. The site is http://www.for-the-people.com and the chat room is the Games People Play. This notice reminder is for the Thursdays gamer chat which goes on until when ever. The Time: Well, that depends on where you are at. Below is a simple chart showing time zones in the US as well as universal time. Thursdays starting at: 6PM Pacific 7PM Mountain 8PM Central 9PM Eastern 1AM Friday morning Universal Hope to see you there. --- Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to gamers-unsubscr...@audyssey.org. You can make changes or update your subscription via the web, at http://audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org. All messages are archived and can be searched and read at http://www.mail-archive.com/gamers@audyssey.org. If you have any questions or concerns regarding the management of the list, please send E-mail to gamers-ow...@audyssey.org. --- Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to gamers-unsubscr...@audyssey.org. You can make changes or update your subscription via the web, at http://audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org. All messages are archived and can be searched and read at http://www.mail-archive.com/gamers@audyssey.org. If you have any questions or concerns regarding the management of the list, please send E-mail to gamers-ow...@audyssey.org. --- Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to gamers-unsubscr...@audyssey.org. You can make changes or update your subscription via the web, at http://audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org. All messages are archived and can be searched and read at http://www.mail-archive.com/gamers@audyssey.org. If you have any questions or concerns regarding the management of the list, please send E-mail to gamers-ow...@audyssey.org. --- Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to gamers-unsubscr...@audyssey.org. You can make changes or update your subscription via the web, at http://audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org. All messages are archived and can be searched and read at http://www.mail-archive.com/gamers@audyssey.org. If you have any questions or concerns regarding the management of the list, please send E-mail to gamers-ow...@audyssey.org.
Re: [Audyssey] eloquence was, Re: Screen reader support in BGT
I find the UK eloquence very hard to understand compared to the US one. Mind you, that's probably because I have my speech programs going ten to the dozen. -Original Message- From: gamers-boun...@audyssey.org [mailto:gamers-boun...@audyssey.org] On Behalf Of Jacob Kruger Sent: 21 January 2011 07:54 To: Gamers Discussion list Subject: Re: [Audyssey] eloquence was, Re: Screen reader support in BGT Maybe it's also a context thing, since, as said in my other mail, I prefer UK eloquence on my phones, but do use american voice quite happily on my computers. Stay well Jacob Kruger Blind Biker Skype: BlindZA '...fate had broken his body, but not his spirit...' - Original Message - From: Shiny protector muhamme...@googlemail.com To: Gamers Discussion list gamers@audyssey.org Sent: Friday, January 21, 2011 8:34 AM Subject: Re: [Audyssey] eloquence was, Re: Screen reader support in BGT Uh. I hate that accent. - Original Message - From: Bryan Peterson bpeterson2...@cableone.net To: Gamers Discussion list gamers@audyssey.org Sent: Thursday, January 20, 2011 10:46 PM Subject: Re: [Audyssey] eloquence was, Re: Screen reader support in BGT I'm just the opposite. If I have to use Eloquence I use the UK accent since the American accent is the one that sounds odd to me. We are the Knights who say...Ni! - Original Message - From: Damien Pendleton dam...@x-sight-interactive.net To: Gamers Discussion list gamers@audyssey.org Sent: Thursday, January 20, 2011 2:05 PM Subject: Re: [Audyssey] eloquence was, Re: Screen reader support in BGT Hi Dark, I totally agree with you with the UK accent, which is precisely why I use the US accent. To be honest I prefer the American accents in speech synths anyway. Again, because that's what I've always used. Regards, Damien. - Original Message - From: dark d...@xgam.org To: Gamers Discussion list gamers@audyssey.org Sent: Thursday, January 20, 2011 8:47 PM Subject: [Audyssey] eloquence was, Re: Screen reader support in BGT It might just be that I am used to orphius human voices, but I've actually never thought much of eloquence, in fact to be honest I've never really thought it was that much better than microsoft Mike. Of course, this might be partially because the eloquence uk english accent is, well incredibly odd to say the least. Beware the grue! Dark. - Original Message - From: Thomas Ward thomasward1...@gmail.com To: Gamers Discussion list gamers@audyssey.org Sent: Thursday, January 20, 2011 6:31 PM Subject: Re: [Audyssey] Screen reader support in BGT Hi, Unfortunately this is true. Eloquence is actually Sapi 4 based not Sapi 5 based. The Dectalk has its own API. Although Fonix did produce a Sapi 5 compatible version of Fonixtalk, AKA Dectalk, for a while. However, it is my understanding they discontinued the Sapi 5 version of Fonixtalk. The best way to support Eloquence is to purchase an SDK for it and wrap Viavoice Outloud directly. It is pretty simple to do and the API for Eloquence AKA Viavoice Outloud is very straight forward for a C++ developer. Problem is that the SDK costs quite a bit to license. Cheers! On 1/20/11, Damien Pendleton dam...@x-sight-interactive.net wrote: Hi Dark, Synth voices like Eloquence and Dectalk are hard to get for SAPI 5 though. I tend to find with SAPI that you go from one extreme to the other. Either a low-sampled, quick but hard to understand one, or a high-sampled, large, slow, laggy, easy to understand one. However they all seem to be sample-based rather than formant-based. Regards, Damien. --- Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to gamers-unsubscr...@audyssey.org. You can make changes or update your subscription via the web, at http://audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org. All messages are archived and can be searched and read at http://www.mail-archive.com/gamers@audyssey.org. If you have any questions or concerns regarding the management of the list, please send E-mail to gamers-ow...@audyssey.org. --- Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to gamers-unsubscr...@audyssey.org. You can make changes or update your subscription via the web, at http://audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org. All messages are archived and can be searched and read at http://www.mail-archive.com/gamers@audyssey.org. If you have any questions or concerns regarding the management of the list, please send E-mail to gamers-ow...@audyssey.org. --- Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to gamers-unsubscr...@audyssey.org. You can make changes or update your subscription via the web, at http://audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org. All messages are archived and can be searched and read at
Re: [Audyssey] eloquence was, Re: Screen reader support in BGT
Well, not sure either, but, yes, if I want to, for example, render a text file into an audio book, in english, I use scansoft daniel (UK), and for something like afrikaans, I then use the eSpeak afrikaans voice, but anyway. Think I'm just too used to the US eloquence voice for most things, but I do add various dictionary pronounciation entries to it for things like my surname, and a few other nicknames for other people sometimes. Stay well Jacob Kruger Blind Biker Skype: BlindZA '...fate had broken his body, but not his spirit...' - Original Message - From: dark d...@xgam.org To: Gamers Discussion list gamers@audyssey.org Sent: Friday, January 21, 2011 12:10 PM Subject: Re: [Audyssey] eloquence was, Re: Screen reader support in BGT Hi Jacob, most odd. For kicks I just switched orphius to it's Us english voice and read your mail, and Brad, like the Uk English voice alan pronounced your name as kruger, just like fredy's ;D. That being said, I actually found Brad to have a very odd accent, rather like an English person imitating an American, perhaps then it just depends upon where the screen reader is developed, sinse orphius was made over here and Eloquence is Us based. stil, accents aside, in terms of tone, intonation and clarity I'd stil say I prefer orphius human voices over Eloquence. Beware the grue! Dark. - Original Message - From: Jacob Kruger jac...@mailzone.co.za To: Gamers Discussion list gamers@audyssey.org Sent: Friday, January 21, 2011 9:15 AM Subject: Re: [Audyssey] eloquence was, Re: Screen reader support in BGT LOL! For example, while the US voice calls me Jacob Kroojer, the british version at least calls me Jacob Kroogger... Have at least once had someone give me a skype VOIP call from America, and then hang up since he didn't want to believe I was really speaking english - sent him an email a bit later trying to 'explain' to him...LOL again! Otherwise, when speaking to UK guys over phone etc., I have once or twice just been asked to speak a bit slower myself - but OTOH, some people like my own mother this side tell me the same thing occasionally - maybe I'm too used to my computer etc. jabbering away, and so do it myself...? Jacob Kruger Blind Biker Skype: BlindZA '...fate had broken his body, but not his spirit...' - Original Message - From: dark d...@xgam.org To: Gamers Discussion list gamers@audyssey.org Sent: Friday, January 21, 2011 10:19 AM Subject: Re: [Audyssey] eloquence was, Re: Screen reader support in BGT Actually Jacob, i've always found british eloquence sounds more like what happens when a bad American actor tries! to do a british accent and fails horribly, that's why I dislike it myself and if I were to use eloquence I'd probably want the Us version just for that reason even though for most synths I'd much prefer a british voice, having something of a slightly over posh English accent myself ;D. Baat of cooorse, one is mioast displeeeyeesed; the'att the Quaains E'yengle'yish is see'yo dree'yehdfully Pre'onaaanced, bay the'yose hohrable, Ammee'yerican se'yinths. yee gods! getting orphius to say that poshly enough was bloody hard, and goodness knows what other synths will make of it ;d. Beware the Grue! Dark. --- Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to gamers-unsubscr...@audyssey.org. You can make changes or update your subscription via the web, at http://audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org. All messages are archived and can be searched and read at http://www.mail-archive.com/gamers@audyssey.org. If you have any questions or concerns regarding the management of the list, please send E-mail to gamers-ow...@audyssey.org. --- Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to gamers-unsubscr...@audyssey.org. You can make changes or update your subscription via the web, at http://audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org. All messages are archived and can be searched and read at http://www.mail-archive.com/gamers@audyssey.org. If you have any questions or concerns regarding the management of the list, please send E-mail to gamers-ow...@audyssey.org. --- Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to gamers-unsubscr...@audyssey.org. You can make changes or update your subscription via the web, at http://audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org. All messages are archived and can be searched and read at http://www.mail-archive.com/gamers@audyssey.org. If you have any questions or concerns regarding the management of the list, please send E-mail to gamers-ow...@audyssey.org. --- Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to gamers-unsubscr...@audyssey.org. You can make changes or update your subscription via the web, at
Re: [Audyssey] Screen reader support in BGT
Hi my version of Jaws 11 won't work with Sappi at all, I've tried but sadly nothing, even when I sellect sappi 5 as my default. - Original Message - From: Thomas Ward thomasward1...@gmail.com To: Gamers Discussion list gamers@audyssey.org Sent: Friday, January 21, 2011 2:22 AM Subject: Re: [Audyssey] Screen reader support in BGT Hi, Well, that depends. I noticed that the Sapi version of Realspeak voices do lag a little, but it is n't too bad. However, the Realspeak Direct voices for Jaws 11 are very responsive and I generally use something like Scansoft Tom as my default voice rather than Eloquence. On 1/20/11, dark d...@xgam.org wrote: Hi Damien. I'd fully agree that the orphius synthetic dave and synthetic andy voices are, well synthetic, and probably are worse than eloquence. however, I really do like their human voices, the Uk English voice Alan in particular. In fact Alan is the voice I've used for everything screen reader related for years now, ever sinse the human voices first came out, and I've never had issues with response times at all. i suppose though as you said, it all comes down to what your used to, I'd probably say the same about eloquence, ie, that it's not much better than espeak as you do about orphius ;D. As for the lag in sapi, as I said I've never really seen it myself, not with the scansoft voices anyway. Beware the grue! dark. --- Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to gamers-unsubscr...@audyssey.org. You can make changes or update your subscription via the web, at http://audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org. All messages are archived and can be searched and read at http://www.mail-archive.com/gamers@audyssey.org. If you have any questions or concerns regarding the management of the list, please send E-mail to gamers-ow...@audyssey.org. --- Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to gamers-unsubscr...@audyssey.org. You can make changes or update your subscription via the web, at http://audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org. All messages are archived and can be searched and read at http://www.mail-archive.com/gamers@audyssey.org. If you have any questions or concerns regarding the management of the list, please send E-mail to gamers-ow...@audyssey.org.
Re: [Audyssey] Heli
I got your message. sevgiler saygilar - Original Message - From: Ken the Crazy kenwdow...@neo.rr.com To: Gamers Discussion list Gamers@audyssey.org Sent: Friday, January 21, 2011 4:07 AM Subject: [Audyssey] Heli I sent a message to the list earlier today, but I'm not seeing it. Basically, I've begun a community project for all you programmers, sound and music designers. This is the first freeware open-source game the blind community has which uses 3d audio--or it better be. If it's not then I've worked my butt off reinventing the wheel.. It's coded in VB6 and uses directx 8. The game can be found at http://dl.dropbox.com/u/13071564/heli.zip It's in very early public beta, and I probably am already working on any errors you find, but let me know about them anyway. Here is the manual. Welcome to Heli, the virtual toy helicopter you can fly! There has been much talk in the past about a game building project that many people can participate in. Well, I've begun one. Now, here's where the rubber meets the road. Here is where we'll see if gamers are all talk about this subject or if they add their own ideas. The game So far, here is the game, designed in VB6. Yes, it's archaic or whatever, but it's what I know. Wanna translate it? Go ahead. Anyway, the basic idea is that you and a friend just got a couple of those new battle copters, you know, the ones you fly around the house? Well, you're in a living room that's about ten feet high, and 20 by 20. You fly your chopper around the room, trying to shoot down your friend before he gets you. The Trim: Now, you're not the only one that flies this helicopter, because you have a young brother/sister/cousin that plays with it, so every time you start the game you'll need to adjust the trim to 0. To adjust it, use the home and end keys. When it gets to 0, the sound of the knob turning will change. If you don't adjust the trim, the helicopter will fly around in circles--which you may want to do sometimes. To fly, hold down the page up key to gain altitude. Since you're flying a helicopter, the faster the rotors turn, the higher it goes. As you increase in height, your velocity in that direction also increases. If you get going too fast you'll smash against the ceiling, and your chopper will fall. You get about ten smashes before it's unusable. Also, page down will slow the rotors, making the chopper descend. Now turn with the left and right arrow keys and fly forwards or backwards with the up and down arrows. You can show off to your friend by landing the chopper on your head, but that takes a lot of work and a little luck. If you're in range of your opponent, a target beep sounds, indicating that you're in range to shoot the other copter down. Turn with the left and right arrows until the beeps are in front of you, then shoot with the space bar. If you get him, it's your point--but if he shoots you down, it's his point. In either case, the shot chopper will float down to the ground, and both will respawn at their starting locations. The enemy chopper starts out very slow. It always comes after you, but the first little while it is slow. This allows you to adjust your trim, get used to flying and so on. Every time you shoot him though, he flies a bit faster. Eventually, he will outfly and outgun you no matter how good you think you are. Yep, another unbeatable game from DreamTech! (You wouldn't really wanna be able to win now, would ya?) Now, there are obstacles in the room, but you can smash 'em if you want. The first is a TV, which is playing some weird music when the game starts. To smash it, simply fly at an altitude of three feet or less, and go after it. More obstacles, such as lamps, are coming. Controls: Page up for ascend, page down for descend, home and end adjust trim, left and right arrows for turning, up and down arrows for moving, a says your current angle, x says your current coordinates, v says your velocity, and space bar fires your gun. Note: This game is not only to be a community project, but it's an early early beta. I've only been working on it for two weeks now, but there are many things to add and fix, such as the frequency of the targeting beeps. I know this, and I'll be working on them--but remember, you can too. Also, realize that working with 3d audio isn't nearly as easy as panning and volume--well, it wasn't in the beginning. Now though, that you have a foundation to build on, it should be very simple. I've included a book on programming vb6 that I found on the net, as well as a couple tutorials on 3d audio by Jack Hoxley. I want to encourage developers that programming isn't the only essential here. Sounds and music are crucial too, so if you want to make sounds or music but don't have a clue about programming, you can join in as well. The sound for Heli, your chopper, is basically a motor sound with the sound of a chain saw mixed in. The
Re: [Audyssey] Screen reader support in BGT
Hmmm, I've always been a litle confused as to why you'd want to run a screen reader like Jaws or hal thru sapi anyway, unless you have some very unusual voices which your screen reader didn't support at all, though that would stil be something of a resource drain I think than just having the screen reader output to the voice directly. That is however something entirely different from a game outputting to a screen reader. Beware the grue! Dark. - Original Message - From: Lori Duncan lori_dunca...@hotmail.com To: Gamers Discussion list gamers@audyssey.org Sent: Friday, January 21, 2011 1:22 PM Subject: Re: [Audyssey] Screen reader support in BGT Hi my version of Jaws 11 won't work with Sappi at all, I've tried but sadly nothing, even when I sellect sappi 5 as my default. - Original Message - From: Thomas Ward thomasward1...@gmail.com To: Gamers Discussion list gamers@audyssey.org Sent: Friday, January 21, 2011 2:22 AM Subject: Re: [Audyssey] Screen reader support in BGT Hi, Well, that depends. I noticed that the Sapi version of Realspeak voices do lag a little, but it is n't too bad. However, the Realspeak Direct voices for Jaws 11 are very responsive and I generally use something like Scansoft Tom as my default voice rather than Eloquence. On 1/20/11, dark d...@xgam.org wrote: Hi Damien. I'd fully agree that the orphius synthetic dave and synthetic andy voices are, well synthetic, and probably are worse than eloquence. however, I really do like their human voices, the Uk English voice Alan in particular. In fact Alan is the voice I've used for everything screen reader related for years now, ever sinse the human voices first came out, and I've never had issues with response times at all. i suppose though as you said, it all comes down to what your used to, I'd probably say the same about eloquence, ie, that it's not much better than espeak as you do about orphius ;D. As for the lag in sapi, as I said I've never really seen it myself, not with the scansoft voices anyway. Beware the grue! dark. --- Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to gamers-unsubscr...@audyssey.org. You can make changes or update your subscription via the web, at http://audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org. All messages are archived and can be searched and read at http://www.mail-archive.com/gamers@audyssey.org. If you have any questions or concerns regarding the management of the list, please send E-mail to gamers-ow...@audyssey.org. --- Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to gamers-unsubscr...@audyssey.org. You can make changes or update your subscription via the web, at http://audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org. All messages are archived and can be searched and read at http://www.mail-archive.com/gamers@audyssey.org. If you have any questions or concerns regarding the management of the list, please send E-mail to gamers-ow...@audyssey.org. --- Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to gamers-unsubscr...@audyssey.org. You can make changes or update your subscription via the web, at http://audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org. All messages are archived and can be searched and read at http://www.mail-archive.com/gamers@audyssey.org. If you have any questions or concerns regarding the management of the list, please send E-mail to gamers-ow...@audyssey.org.
[Audyssey] Moderator's reminder on eloquence was, Re: Screen reader support in BGT
Hey everyone, can we get back to gaming topics please? This topic has strayed. Thanks from your friendly moderator. On 1/21/2011 1:34 AM, Shiny protector wrote: Uh. I hate that accent. -- Raul A. Gallegos Home page: http://www.RaulGallegos.com Twitter: http://www.twitter.com/ragallegos --- Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to gamers-unsubscr...@audyssey.org. You can make changes or update your subscription via the web, at http://audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org. All messages are archived and can be searched and read at http://www.mail-archive.com/gamers@audyssey.org. If you have any questions or concerns regarding the management of the list, please send E-mail to gamers-ow...@audyssey.org.
Re: [Audyssey] eloquence was, Re: Screen reader support in BGT
Well I am using espeak scottish. Its espeak, but its a weird accent. its even got some character. At 10:15 p.m. 21/01/2011, you wrote: LOL! For example, while the US voice calls me Jacob Kroojer, the british version at least calls me Jacob Kroogger... Have at least once had someone give me a skype VOIP call from America, and then hang up since he didn't want to believe I was really speaking english - sent him an email a bit later trying to 'explain' to him...LOL again! Otherwise, when speaking to UK guys over phone etc., I have once or twice just been asked to speak a bit slower myself - but OTOH, some people like my own mother this side tell me the same thing occasionally - maybe I'm too used to my computer etc. jabbering away, and so do it myself...? Jacob Kruger Blind Biker Skype: BlindZA '...fate had broken his body, but not his spirit...' - Original Message - From: dark d...@xgam.org To: Gamers Discussion list gamers@audyssey.org Sent: Friday, January 21, 2011 10:19 AM Subject: Re: [Audyssey] eloquence was, Re: Screen reader support in BGT Actually Jacob, i've always found british eloquence sounds more like what happens when a bad American actor tries! to do a british accent and fails horribly, that's why I dislike it myself and if I were to use eloquence I'd probably want the Us version just for that reason even though for most synths I'd much prefer a british voice, having something of a slightly over posh English accent myself ;D. Baat of cooorse, one is mioast displeeeyeesed; the'att the Quaains E'yengle'yish is see'yo dree'yehdfully Pre'onaaanced, bay the'yose hohrable, Ammee'yerican se'yinths. yee gods! getting orphius to say that poshly enough was bloody hard, and goodness knows what other synths will make of it ;d. Beware the Grue! Dark. --- Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to gamers-unsubscr...@audyssey.org. You can make changes or update your subscription via the web, at http://audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org. All messages are archived and can be searched and read at http://www.mail-archive.com/gamers@audyssey.org. If you have any questions or concerns regarding the management of the list, please send E-mail to gamers-ow...@audyssey.org. --- Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to gamers-unsubscr...@audyssey.org. You can make changes or update your subscription via the web, at http://audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org. All messages are archived and can be searched and read at http://www.mail-archive.com/gamers@audyssey.org. If you have any questions or concerns regarding the management of the list, please send E-mail to gamers-ow...@audyssey.org. --- Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to gamers-unsubscr...@audyssey.org. You can make changes or update your subscription via the web, at http://audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org. All messages are archived and can be searched and read at http://www.mail-archive.com/gamers@audyssey.org. If you have any questions or concerns regarding the management of the list, please send E-mail to gamers-ow...@audyssey.org.
Re: [Audyssey] Community Game-building Project
Sounds good! I'm going to download it. - Original Message - From: Ryan Conroy staindadd...@juno.com To: kenwdow...@neo.rr.com; gamers@audyssey.org Sent: Friday, January 21, 2011 8:01 AM Subject: Re: [Audyssey] Community Game-building Project Why is the game unbeatable? For people not getting tired of it? lol Just curious. Ryan -- Original Message -- From: Ken the Crazy kenwdow...@neo.rr.com To: Gamers Discussion list Gamers@audyssey.org Subject: [Audyssey] Community Game-building Project Date: Thu, 20 Jan 2011 15:50:49 -0500 Well, there has been much talk in the past about a game building project that many people can participate in. Well, I've begun one. Now, here's where the rubber meets the road. Here is where we'll see if gamers are all talk about this subject or if they add their own ideas. The game So far, here is the game, designed in VB6. Yes, it's archaic or whatever, but it's what I know. Wanna translate it? Go ahead. Anyway, the basic idea is that you and a friend just got a couple of those new battle copters, you know, the ones you fly around the house? Well, you're in a living room that's about ten feet high, and 20 by 20. You fly your chopper around the room, trying to shoot down your friend before he gets you. The Trim: Now, you're not the only one that flies this helicopter, because you have a young brother/sister/cousin that plays with it, so every time you start the game you'll need to adjust the trim to 0. To adjust it, use the home and end keys. As you adjust it, you'll hear the clicking of a knob that seems to move around your head. When it gets to 0, the sound of the knob turning will change and be directly in front of you. To fly, hold down the page up key to gain altitude. Since you're flying a helicopter, the faster the rotors turn, the higher it goes. As you increase in height, your velocity in that direction also increases. If you get going too fast you'll smash against the ceiling, and your chopper will fall. You get about ten smashes before it's unusable. Also, page down will slow the rotors, making the chopper descend. You can show off to your friend by landing the chopper on your head, but that takes a lot of work and a little luck. Use left and right arrows to turn, and up and down arrows to fly forward and backward. If you're in range, a target beep sounds, indicating that you're in range to shoot the other copter down. Turn with the left and right arrows until the beeps are in front of you, then shoot with the space bar. If you get him, it's your point--but if he shoots you down, it's his point. In either case, the shot chopper will float down to the ground, and both will respawn at their starting locations, but will retain their former altitudes. The enemy chopper starts out very slow. It always comes after you, but the first little while it is slow. This allows you to adjust your trim, get used to flying and so on. Every time you shoot him though, he flies a bit faster. Eventually, he will outfly and outgun you no matter how good you think you are. Yep, another unbeatable game from DreamTech! (You wouldn't really wanna be able to win now, would ya?) Now, there are obstacles in the room, but you can smash 'em if you want. The first is a TV, which is playing some weird music when the game starts. To smash it, simply fly at an altitude of three feet or less, and go after it. More obstacles, such as lamps, are coming. Controls: Page up for ascend, page down for descend, home and end adjust trim, left and right arrows for turning, a says your current angle, x says your current coordinates, v says your velocity, and space bar fires your gun. Note: This game is not only to be a community project, but it's an early early beta. I've only been working on it for about two weeks now, but there are a couple things to fix. The ones I know are the frequency of the targeting beeps, and the way velocity is spoken--will be integers soon. I know this, and I'll be working on them--but remember, you can too. Also, realize that working with 3d audio isn't nearly as easy as panning and volume--well, it wasn't in the beginning. Now though, that you have a foundation to build on, it should be very simple. I've included a book on programming vb6 that I found on the net, as well as a couple tutorials on 3d audio by Jack Hoxley. Before I tell you where to get the file, I want to encourage developers that programming isn't the only essential here. Sounds and music are crucial too, so if you want to make sounds or music but don't have a clue about programming, you can join in as well. The sound for Heli, your chopper, is basically a motor sound with the sound of a chain saw mixed in. The sky's the limit when it comes to imagination. (Yeah, I know it sounds silly, but wait till you hear it!) OK. Here's the link: http://dl.dropbox.com/u/13071564/heli.zip Now, if you want to be
[Audyssey] memory train problem
Hi guys,
Sorry I've been absent for a lon'n'n'n'n'n'n'n'n'ng! time, but there's been
stuff in my life that's time consuming. Just to say. With bgt's game
programming in practice series. I copied and pasted all the code, as the
final part of the tutorial for memory train states you could do, I have all
the sound files, I've looked through the code several times and it just!
Won't! work!
I've put the code here:
void main()
{
show_game_window(Memory Train);
dynamic_menu menu;
menu.add_item_tts(Start game);
menu.add_item_tts(Keyboard practice);
menu.add_item_tts(Exit game);
menu.allow_escape = true;
menu.wrap = true;
menu.run(Please choose a menu item with the arrow keys, then hit enter to
activate it., true);
}
I know this isn't all the code, but this part won't run either. Once I get
one going, hopefully I'll get the other one working as well...
Any help would be much appreciated.
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Re: [Audyssey] Game Chat Reminder
Don't worry, sir, we won't stop you. It was nice having you for some long time, but since you want to leive... Moderators or owners, thank you for stopping this thing. - Original Message - From: Gamers Chat Robot gamers-ro...@audyssey.org To: gamers@audyssey.org Sent: Friday, January 21, 2011 3:34 PM Subject: [Audyssey] Game Chat Reminder Ever wanted to hear what a certain gamer really sounds like? Ever wanted to ask the developer a question about that cool game? Developers, ever wanted to get to know your players? Ever wanted to be able to answer questions asked by your players? Well too bad! After this message, there will be no more further reminders about that gamers voice chat which no one attends. From now on, you will just have to set up a voice session on your own time and using your own resources. Yes folks, no further Thursday or Saturday chat notifications will be sent from this lowly robot. I may have to retire after this. Actually, no, since I have to still send out the gamers rules which no one reads, I am still good for something. Thanks for your time in reading or not reading this. Bye bye and ta ta for now. --- Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to gamers-unsubscr...@audyssey.org. You can make changes or update your subscription via the web, at http://audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org. All messages are archived and can be searched and read at http://www.mail-archive.com/gamers@audyssey.org. If you have any questions or concerns regarding the management of the list, please send E-mail to gamers-ow...@audyssey.org. --- Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to gamers-unsubscr...@audyssey.org. You can make changes or update your subscription via the web, at http://audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org. All messages are archived and can be searched and read at http://www.mail-archive.com/gamers@audyssey.org. If you have any questions or concerns regarding the management of the list, please send E-mail to gamers-ow...@audyssey.org.
Re: [Audyssey] memory train problem
Hi Ben,
This isn't really the place to ask clear-cut programming/code debugging
questions. You'd be much better off posting a topic about this to the
Blastbay BGT forum, which is the perfect discussion board for this very
subject.
Kind regards,
Philip Bennefall
- Original Message -
From: Ben gamehead...@aol.co.uk
To: 'Gamers Discussion list' gamers@audyssey.org
Sent: Friday, January 21, 2011 6:44 PM
Subject: [Audyssey] memory train problem
Hi guys,
Sorry I've been absent for a lon'n'n'n'n'n'n'n'n'ng! time, but there's been
stuff in my life that's time consuming. Just to say. With bgt's game
programming in practice series. I copied and pasted all the code, as the
final part of the tutorial for memory train states you could do, I have all
the sound files, I've looked through the code several times and it just!
Won't! work!
I've put the code here:
void main()
{
show_game_window(Memory Train);
dynamic_menu menu;
menu.add_item_tts(Start game);
menu.add_item_tts(Keyboard practice);
menu.add_item_tts(Exit game);
menu.allow_escape = true;
menu.wrap = true;
menu.run(Please choose a menu item with the arrow keys, then hit enter to
activate it., true);
}
I know this isn't all the code, but this part won't run either. Once I get
one going, hopefully I'll get the other one working as well...
Any help would be much appreciated.
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Re: [Audyssey] Heli
Hi, I want to play this game, but I can't play it. I can't find an.exe file. - Original Message - From: burakyuksek burakyuksek...@gmail.com To: Ken the Crazy kenwdow...@neo.rr.com; Gamers Discussion list gamers@audyssey.org Sent: Friday, January 21, 2011 2:07 PM Subject: Re: [Audyssey] Heli I got your message. sevgiler saygilar - Original Message - From: Ken the Crazy kenwdow...@neo.rr.com To: Gamers Discussion list Gamers@audyssey.org Sent: Friday, January 21, 2011 4:07 AM Subject: [Audyssey] Heli I sent a message to the list earlier today, but I'm not seeing it. Basically, I've begun a community project for all you programmers, sound and music designers. This is the first freeware open-source game the blind community has which uses 3d audio--or it better be. If it's not then I've worked my butt off reinventing the wheel.. It's coded in VB6 and uses directx 8. The game can be found at http://dl.dropbox.com/u/13071564/heli.zip It's in very early public beta, and I probably am already working on any errors you find, but let me know about them anyway. Here is the manual. Welcome to Heli, the virtual toy helicopter you can fly! There has been much talk in the past about a game building project that many people can participate in. Well, I've begun one. Now, here's where the rubber meets the road. Here is where we'll see if gamers are all talk about this subject or if they add their own ideas. The game So far, here is the game, designed in VB6. Yes, it's archaic or whatever, but it's what I know. Wanna translate it? Go ahead. Anyway, the basic idea is that you and a friend just got a couple of those new battle copters, you know, the ones you fly around the house? Well, you're in a living room that's about ten feet high, and 20 by 20. You fly your chopper around the room, trying to shoot down your friend before he gets you. The Trim: Now, you're not the only one that flies this helicopter, because you have a young brother/sister/cousin that plays with it, so every time you start the game you'll need to adjust the trim to 0. To adjust it, use the home and end keys. When it gets to 0, the sound of the knob turning will change. If you don't adjust the trim, the helicopter will fly around in circles--which you may want to do sometimes. To fly, hold down the page up key to gain altitude. Since you're flying a helicopter, the faster the rotors turn, the higher it goes. As you increase in height, your velocity in that direction also increases. If you get going too fast you'll smash against the ceiling, and your chopper will fall. You get about ten smashes before it's unusable. Also, page down will slow the rotors, making the chopper descend. Now turn with the left and right arrow keys and fly forwards or backwards with the up and down arrows. You can show off to your friend by landing the chopper on your head, but that takes a lot of work and a little luck. If you're in range of your opponent, a target beep sounds, indicating that you're in range to shoot the other copter down. Turn with the left and right arrows until the beeps are in front of you, then shoot with the space bar. If you get him, it's your point--but if he shoots you down, it's his point. In either case, the shot chopper will float down to the ground, and both will respawn at their starting locations. The enemy chopper starts out very slow. It always comes after you, but the first little while it is slow. This allows you to adjust your trim, get used to flying and so on. Every time you shoot him though, he flies a bit faster. Eventually, he will outfly and outgun you no matter how good you think you are. Yep, another unbeatable game from DreamTech! (You wouldn't really wanna be able to win now, would ya?) Now, there are obstacles in the room, but you can smash 'em if you want. The first is a TV, which is playing some weird music when the game starts. To smash it, simply fly at an altitude of three feet or less, and go after it. More obstacles, such as lamps, are coming. Controls: Page up for ascend, page down for descend, home and end adjust trim, left and right arrows for turning, up and down arrows for moving, a says your current angle, x says your current coordinates, v says your velocity, and space bar fires your gun. Note: This game is not only to be a community project, but it's an early early beta. I've only been working on it for two weeks now, but there are many things to add and fix, such as the frequency of the targeting beeps. I know this, and I'll be working on them--but remember, you can too. Also, realize that working with 3d audio isn't nearly as easy as panning and volume--well, it wasn't in the beginning. Now though, that you have a foundation to build on, it should be very simple. I've included a book on programming vb6 that I found on the net, as well as a couple tutorials on 3d audio by Jack Hoxley. I want to encourage
Re: [Audyssey] Mysteries of the Ancients Levels
Well speaking for myself I agree with the person who said we are dealing with an imperfect situation here. I too am one of those who purchased the preorder from Alchemy way back in the day which by the way I never do and never will again other than for mainstream titles, but this game just sounded too cool. When Alchemy went away I was fully prepared to eat my 35 bucks or whatever it was. I was totally jazzed when Tom took the project over. Sure it is frustrating having to wait several years for this to turn out, but frankly anyone who gives Tom a hard time about this has a heck of a lot of nerve in my view, because 99 times out of a hundred they'd've just been out the 35 bucks and that would have been that. So Tom, do it the way you want to, I've waited this long I can wait a little longer. as you surely know by now you're never gonna please everyone no matter what you do so you may as well do it the way you want to. You've put a lot of sweat into this project and it should be something you're proud of when you are done. Best, Tom -Original Message- From: gamers-boun...@audyssey.org [mailto:gamers-boun...@audyssey.org] On Behalf Of Thomas Ward Sent: Thursday, January 20, 2011 11:32 AM To: Gamers Discussion list Subject: Re: [Audyssey] Mysteries of the Ancients Levels Hi Shaun, Yeah. Thing is most of them have no clue what is like to create a multipurpose game engine and then still produce a game at the same time. It would be kind of like writing BGT and Q9 at the same time. Since MOTA requires the G3D Engine there is no question which product comes first, but having the engine more or less ready for production now will mean I can crank out games in under a year. It just requires that piece of software I didn't have two or three years ago, and I happened to have to write by hand because there was no BGT to purchase at the time. Cheers! On 1/20/11, shaun everiss sm.ever...@gmail.com wrote: well tom, they have been waiting a fecking long time for the games. That you had to write your own engine has slowed things down. TO be fair if I was a preorder user I'd probably be going down your throat at you, flaming, swearing and such. These people have waited years and years for this game or games. I think they are rather fed up with the waiting. This is not your fault, the new engine for the most part really rocks and will enable you to do a major load of stuff. But they don't care anymore they want the fecking game after all they payed for it!!! --- Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to gamers-unsubscr...@audyssey.org. You can make changes or update your subscription via the web, at http://audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org. All messages are archived and can be searched and read at http://www.mail-archive.com/gamers@audyssey.org. If you have any questions or concerns regarding the management of the list, please send E-mail to gamers-ow...@audyssey.org. --- Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to gamers-unsubscr...@audyssey.org. You can make changes or update your subscription via the web, at http://audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org. All messages are archived and can be searched and read at http://www.mail-archive.com/gamers@audyssey.org. If you have any questions or concerns regarding the management of the list, please send E-mail to gamers-ow...@audyssey.org.
Re: [Audyssey] memory train problem
I was going to suggest that myself since I'm having approximately the same
problem. But I've been running into problems posting on that forum lately
for some odd reason.
We are the Knights who say...Ni!
- Original Message -
From: Philip Bennefall phi...@blastbay.com
To: Gamers Discussion list gamers@audyssey.org
Sent: Friday, January 21, 2011 10:49 AM
Subject: Re: [Audyssey] memory train problem
Hi Ben,
This isn't really the place to ask clear-cut programming/code debugging
questions. You'd be much better off posting a topic about this to the
Blastbay BGT forum, which is the perfect discussion board for this very
subject.
Kind regards,
Philip Bennefall
- Original Message -
From: Ben gamehead...@aol.co.uk
To: 'Gamers Discussion list' gamers@audyssey.org
Sent: Friday, January 21, 2011 6:44 PM
Subject: [Audyssey] memory train problem
Hi guys,
Sorry I've been absent for a lon'n'n'n'n'n'n'n'n'ng! time, but there's
been
stuff in my life that's time consuming. Just to say. With bgt's game
programming in practice series. I copied and pasted all the code, as the
final part of the tutorial for memory train states you could do, I have
all
the sound files, I've looked through the code several times and it just!
Won't! work!
I've put the code here:
void main()
{
show_game_window(Memory Train);
dynamic_menu menu;
menu.add_item_tts(Start game);
menu.add_item_tts(Keyboard practice);
menu.add_item_tts(Exit game);
menu.allow_escape = true;
menu.wrap = true;
menu.run(Please choose a menu item with the arrow keys, then hit enter to
activate it., true);
}
I know this isn't all the code, but this part won't run either. Once I
get
one going, hopefully I'll get the other one working as well...
Any help would be much appreciated.
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Re: [Audyssey] Mysteries of the Ancients Levels
Hi, Out of topic but where is USA raceway? Is this developing or is this a ver'r'r'r'r'r'r'r'r'y big lie? sevgiler saygilar - Original Message - From: Tom Randall kf6...@comcast.net To: 'Gamers Discussion list' gamers@audyssey.org Sent: Friday, January 21, 2011 8:11 PM Subject: Re: [Audyssey] Mysteries of the Ancients Levels Well speaking for myself I agree with the person who said we are dealing with an imperfect situation here. I too am one of those who purchased the preorder from Alchemy way back in the day which by the way I never do and never will again other than for mainstream titles, but this game just sounded too cool. When Alchemy went away I was fully prepared to eat my 35 bucks or whatever it was. I was totally jazzed when Tom took the project over. Sure it is frustrating having to wait several years for this to turn out, but frankly anyone who gives Tom a hard time about this has a heck of a lot of nerve in my view, because 99 times out of a hundred they'd've just been out the 35 bucks and that would have been that. So Tom, do it the way you want to, I've waited this long I can wait a little longer. as you surely know by now you're never gonna please everyone no matter what you do so you may as well do it the way you want to. You've put a lot of sweat into this project and it should be something you're proud of when you are done. Best, Tom -Original Message- From: gamers-boun...@audyssey.org [mailto:gamers-boun...@audyssey.org] On Behalf Of Thomas Ward Sent: Thursday, January 20, 2011 11:32 AM To: Gamers Discussion list Subject: Re: [Audyssey] Mysteries of the Ancients Levels Hi Shaun, Yeah. Thing is most of them have no clue what is like to create a multipurpose game engine and then still produce a game at the same time. It would be kind of like writing BGT and Q9 at the same time. Since MOTA requires the G3D Engine there is no question which product comes first, but having the engine more or less ready for production now will mean I can crank out games in under a year. It just requires that piece of software I didn't have two or three years ago, and I happened to have to write by hand because there was no BGT to purchase at the time. Cheers! On 1/20/11, shaun everiss sm.ever...@gmail.com wrote: well tom, they have been waiting a fecking long time for the games. That you had to write your own engine has slowed things down. TO be fair if I was a preorder user I'd probably be going down your throat at you, flaming, swearing and such. These people have waited years and years for this game or games. I think they are rather fed up with the waiting. This is not your fault, the new engine for the most part really rocks and will enable you to do a major load of stuff. But they don't care anymore they want the fecking game after all they payed for it!!! --- Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to gamers-unsubscr...@audyssey.org. You can make changes or update your subscription via the web, at http://audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org. All messages are archived and can be searched and read at http://www.mail-archive.com/gamers@audyssey.org. If you have any questions or concerns regarding the management of the list, please send E-mail to gamers-ow...@audyssey.org. --- Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to gamers-unsubscr...@audyssey.org. You can make changes or update your subscription via the web, at http://audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org. All messages are archived and can be searched and read at http://www.mail-archive.com/gamers@audyssey.org. If you have any questions or concerns regarding the management of the list, please send E-mail to gamers-ow...@audyssey.org. --- Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to gamers-unsubscr...@audyssey.org. You can make changes or update your subscription via the web, at http://audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org. All messages are archived and can be searched and read at http://www.mail-archive.com/gamers@audyssey.org. If you have any questions or concerns regarding the management of the list, please send E-mail to gamers-ow...@audyssey.org.
Re: [Audyssey] Heli
All right, hold on. Give me about five mins and I'll reupload the file with an added executable. It was meant to be run through vb6 but I guess not everybody that wants to play it has that--silly me! :) Ken Downey President DreamTechInteractive! And, Blind Comfort! The pleasant way to experience massage! It's the Caring without the Staring! - Original Message - From: Shiny protector muhamme...@googlemail.com To: Gamers Discussion list gamers@audyssey.org Sent: Friday, January 21, 2011 12:51 PM Subject: Re: [Audyssey] Heli Hi, I want to play this game, but I can't play it. I can't find an.exe file. - Original Message - From: burakyuksek burakyuksek...@gmail.com To: Ken the Crazy kenwdow...@neo.rr.com; Gamers Discussion list gamers@audyssey.org Sent: Friday, January 21, 2011 2:07 PM Subject: Re: [Audyssey] Heli I got your message. sevgiler saygilar - Original Message - From: Ken the Crazy kenwdow...@neo.rr.com To: Gamers Discussion list Gamers@audyssey.org Sent: Friday, January 21, 2011 4:07 AM Subject: [Audyssey] Heli I sent a message to the list earlier today, but I'm not seeing it. Basically, I've begun a community project for all you programmers, sound and music designers. This is the first freeware open-source game the blind community has which uses 3d audio--or it better be. If it's not then I've worked my butt off reinventing the wheel.. It's coded in VB6 and uses directx 8. The game can be found at http://dl.dropbox.com/u/13071564/heli.zip It's in very early public beta, and I probably am already working on any errors you find, but let me know about them anyway. Here is the manual. Welcome to Heli, the virtual toy helicopter you can fly! There has been much talk in the past about a game building project that many people can participate in. Well, I've begun one. Now, here's where the rubber meets the road. Here is where we'll see if gamers are all talk about this subject or if they add their own ideas. The game So far, here is the game, designed in VB6. Yes, it's archaic or whatever, but it's what I know. Wanna translate it? Go ahead. Anyway, the basic idea is that you and a friend just got a couple of those new battle copters, you know, the ones you fly around the house? Well, you're in a living room that's about ten feet high, and 20 by 20. You fly your chopper around the room, trying to shoot down your friend before he gets you. The Trim: Now, you're not the only one that flies this helicopter, because you have a young brother/sister/cousin that plays with it, so every time you start the game you'll need to adjust the trim to 0. To adjust it, use the home and end keys. When it gets to 0, the sound of the knob turning will change. If you don't adjust the trim, the helicopter will fly around in circles--which you may want to do sometimes. To fly, hold down the page up key to gain altitude. Since you're flying a helicopter, the faster the rotors turn, the higher it goes. As you increase in height, your velocity in that direction also increases. If you get going too fast you'll smash against the ceiling, and your chopper will fall. You get about ten smashes before it's unusable. Also, page down will slow the rotors, making the chopper descend. Now turn with the left and right arrow keys and fly forwards or backwards with the up and down arrows. You can show off to your friend by landing the chopper on your head, but that takes a lot of work and a little luck. If you're in range of your opponent, a target beep sounds, indicating that you're in range to shoot the other copter down. Turn with the left and right arrows until the beeps are in front of you, then shoot with the space bar. If you get him, it's your point--but if he shoots you down, it's his point. In either case, the shot chopper will float down to the ground, and both will respawn at their starting locations. The enemy chopper starts out very slow. It always comes after you, but the first little while it is slow. This allows you to adjust your trim, get used to flying and so on. Every time you shoot him though, he flies a bit faster. Eventually, he will outfly and outgun you no matter how good you think you are. Yep, another unbeatable game from DreamTech! (You wouldn't really wanna be able to win now, would ya?) Now, there are obstacles in the room, but you can smash 'em if you want. The first is a TV, which is playing some weird music when the game starts. To smash it, simply fly at an altitude of three feet or less, and go after it. More obstacles, such as lamps, are coming. Controls: Page up for ascend, page down for descend, home and end adjust trim, left and right arrows for turning, up and down arrows for moving, a says your current angle, x says your current coordinates, v says your velocity, and space bar fires your gun. Note: This game is not only to be a community project, but it's an early early beta. I've only
Re: [Audyssey] Mysteries of the Ancients Levels
I agree completely with the right honourable gentlemans statement. Tom. Do what you want, and be proud of it. If you get reasonable feedback from the community for reasonable changes, make them happen if you wish. no one is forcing you to do anything at all. And as was said, you can't please everyone. Just be pleased yourself that you've done a great job - all the blood sweat and tears you've put into this should count for something on your part. Well done, and keep going with it! --- Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to gamers-unsubscr...@audyssey.org. You can make changes or update your subscription via the web, at http://audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org. All messages are archived and can be searched and read at http://www.mail-archive.com/gamers@audyssey.org. If you have any questions or concerns regarding the management of the list, please send E-mail to gamers-ow...@audyssey.org.
Re: [Audyssey] memory train problem
Thanks man. As you know I've got an account, so I'll do that tomorrow or
some time.
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From: gamers-boun...@audyssey.org [mailto:gamers-boun...@audyssey.org] On
Behalf Of Philip Bennefall
Sent: 21 January 2011 17:49
To: Gamers Discussion list
Subject: Re: [Audyssey] memory train problem
Hi Ben,
This isn't really the place to ask clear-cut programming/code debugging
questions. You'd be much better off posting a topic about this to the
Blastbay BGT forum, which is the perfect discussion board for this very
subject.
Kind regards,
Philip Bennefall
- Original Message -
From: Ben gamehead...@aol.co.uk
To: 'Gamers Discussion list' gamers@audyssey.org
Sent: Friday, January 21, 2011 6:44 PM
Subject: [Audyssey] memory train problem
Hi guys,
Sorry I've been absent for a lon'n'n'n'n'n'n'n'n'ng! time, but there's been
stuff in my life that's time consuming. Just to say. With bgt's game
programming in practice series. I copied and pasted all the code, as the
final part of the tutorial for memory train states you could do, I have all
the sound files, I've looked through the code several times and it just!
Won't! work!
I've put the code here:
void main()
{
show_game_window(Memory Train);
dynamic_menu menu;
menu.add_item_tts(Start game);
menu.add_item_tts(Keyboard practice);
menu.add_item_tts(Exit game);
menu.allow_escape = true;
menu.wrap = true;
menu.run(Please choose a menu item with the arrow keys, then hit enter to
activate it., true);
}
I know this isn't all the code, but this part won't run either. Once I get
one going, hopefully I'll get the other one working as well...
Any help would be much appreciated.
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Re: [Audyssey] Heli
Hi Ken, Thank you very much for sharing. I have not yet looked at the code, but definitely plan to. I have never actually seen VB6, DX8, 3d code. Looking forward to checking it out. Thanks again for sharing. TGIF and BFN Jim I like Visual Basic 6.0 because I can not C. j...@kitchensinc.net http://www.kitchensinc.net (440) 286-6920 Chardon Ohio USA --- Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to gamers-unsubscr...@audyssey.org. You can make changes or update your subscription via the web, at http://audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org. All messages are archived and can be searched and read at http://www.mail-archive.com/gamers@audyssey.org. If you have any questions or concerns regarding the management of the list, please send E-mail to gamers-ow...@audyssey.org.
[Audyssey] Raceway was Mysteries of the Ancients
Hi, You know, it is comments exactly like yours that people don't like to create games for the VI community. When a certain title doesn't appear on the spot, immediately on demand, they resort to name calling, make false statements, and outright call the developer of said product a liar. However, since you brought it up I'll answer your question directly. As far as USA Raceway goes it is still in development. As I have told you and plenty of others many times before I could create USA Raceway, Mysteries of the Ancients, or anything else I had to create a game engine to handle all the low-level stuff such as input, audio, networking, window management, etc. In short all the common core features you would normally find in any game. Rather than rewrite all of that stuff from scratch time and time again I did exactly the same thing Philip Bennefall is doing and wrote a game engine called Genesis 3D, G3D, which will aid me in producing games much quicker and will aid me in upgrading and maintaining games throughout the lifetime of the product or products. So why isn't USA Raceway done? Think about it a moment. If I have just spent something like two years writing the Genesis 3D Engine, spent some time working on Mysteries of the Ancients, where have I had the time to produce and release a demo of Raceway? Finally, you are forgetting something else. Sounds, music, acting, etc doesn't come for free unless you pirate it. Since I'm not about to pirate my material for Raceway that means I'm going to have to sell Mysteries of the Ancients in order to raise the money to acquire better sounds etc for Raceway. The sounds and music James North gave me are not very high quality. Actually, they suck if you ask me. You want crappy music and sounds, or would you rather be patient and wait for me to do a better job? Point is calling me a liar, saying the game is a very big lie, is absolutely unconstructive. You absolutely have no idea how much work I've put into these projects. You absolutely have no clue how much pressure people have put on me to produce these projects on some totally unrealistic time table. If you or anyone else think it is so dang easy I want you to do it yourself. Yes, I mean learn C++, write your own fully qualified game engine like BGT or G3D, and then write two extremely advanced games all in two or three years. Plus on top of that you need to find time to help raise your son, go to work, eat, sleep, watch a little TV, read a good book, and find a life while producing these projects. Does that sound a bit crazy? Well, it is. People don't think about how crazy it is when they send me e-mails accuse me of lying, fooling around, goofing off, not producing a game like Raceway on their own time table, whatever. They expect me to produce the game on some unrealistic time table, write a game engine easily as complex as BGT at the same time, forget about my family life, and spend a good couple thousand on sounds and music too. Plus I don't want to here a word about the so-called pre orders for Raceway either. I didn't receive one single penny for Raceway, not a dime, so the money that was supposed to be raised to produce the game in the first place doesn't exist. I don't have it. So I have to either raise the money another way, pay out of my own pocket, and hope to get my money back when it goes on sale. That's the truth, and if you don't believe it that's your problem. I've run out of patients with people like you accusing me of lying and sayingRaceway is a big lie etc. On 1/21/11, burakyuksek burakyuksek...@gmail.com wrote: Hi, Out of topic but where is USA raceway? Is this developing or is this a ver'r'r'r'r'r'r'r'r'y big lie? sevgiler saygilar --- Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to gamers-unsubscr...@audyssey.org. You can make changes or update your subscription via the web, at http://audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org. All messages are archived and can be searched and read at http://www.mail-archive.com/gamers@audyssey.org. If you have any questions or concerns regarding the management of the list, please send E-mail to gamers-ow...@audyssey.org.
Re: [Audyssey] Mysteries of the Ancients Levels
Hi Dark, Dark wrote: i do know exactly what you mean, though I've never played the nes batman game you mention (I have played the Mega drive one though. My reply: If I'm not mistaken that was a port or remake of the original NES version to the Mega Drive wasn't it? Dark wrote: The game is simple, and the game's goal, blow up enemies, find power ups, look for the exit, is equally simple, however the execution of this is far more complex simply because the levels are such huge mazes. My reply: So I gather. Of course I wasn't planning on making Mysteries of the Ancients quite so large. Obviously, since the inspiration is Tomb Raider I expect the levels will be more on par with the Tomb Raider side-scrollers like Nightmare Stone and Prophecy for the Nintendo Gameboy. Dark wrote: As i said, shades of doom deffinately shared some of this feeling, particularly in not being restricted in progress, but I've yet to see an audio side scroller that even comes close. My reply: Yeah, I haven't seen one either. Part of it is up until now most side-scrollers like Super Liam, Tarzan Junior, Q9, etc were restricted to a 1d platform run/jump left/right type format. Mysteries of the Ancients at least offers a virticle movement allowing me to create some very large levels both left/right and up/down. Should be interesting. Cheers! --- Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to gamers-unsubscr...@audyssey.org. You can make changes or update your subscription via the web, at http://audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org. All messages are archived and can be searched and read at http://www.mail-archive.com/gamers@audyssey.org. If you have any questions or concerns regarding the management of the list, please send E-mail to gamers-ow...@audyssey.org.
Re: [Audyssey] Screen reader support in BGT
Hi Lori, I know. Jaws 11 has problems with its Sapi 5 drivers. That's why I use the Realspeak Direct voices instead. Those were built specifically for Jaws and are in my opinion just as fast/responsive as Eloquence most of the time. On 1/21/11, Lori Duncan lori_dunca...@hotmail.com wrote: Hi my version of Jaws 11 won't work with Sappi at all, I've tried but sadly nothing, even when I sellect sappi 5 as my default. --- Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to gamers-unsubscr...@audyssey.org. You can make changes or update your subscription via the web, at http://audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org. All messages are archived and can be searched and read at http://www.mail-archive.com/gamers@audyssey.org. If you have any questions or concerns regarding the management of the list, please send E-mail to gamers-ow...@audyssey.org.
Re: [Audyssey] Screen reader support in BGT
Hi Dark, Sorry, you lost me there. Why wouldn't a screen reader use Sapi 5 voices rather than trying to support each and every voice out their directly? I mean the entire purpose of Microsoft providing the Sapi 5 com library is so that developers would have a single API to access various speech systems like Microsoft Sapi, ATT, Cepstral, Careproc, etc all from one interface. Otherwise you are talking about having to write a custom wrapper or middleware for each and every single speech engine out there on the market when you don't have too. So your comments royally confuses me. On 1/21/11, dark d...@xgam.org wrote: Hmmm, I've always been a litle confused as to why you'd want to run a screen reader like Jaws or hal thru sapi anyway, unless you have some very unusual voices which your screen reader didn't support at all, though that would stil be something of a resource drain I think than just having the screen reader output to the voice directly. That is however something entirely different from a game outputting to a screen reader. Beware the grue! Dark. --- Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to gamers-unsubscr...@audyssey.org. You can make changes or update your subscription via the web, at http://audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org. All messages are archived and can be searched and read at http://www.mail-archive.com/gamers@audyssey.org. If you have any questions or concerns regarding the management of the list, please send E-mail to gamers-ow...@audyssey.org.
Re: [Audyssey] Mysteries of the Ancients Levels
Well said. We are the Knights who say...Ni! - Original Message - From: Ben gamehead...@aol.co.uk To: 'Gamers Discussion list' gamers@audyssey.org Sent: Friday, January 21, 2011 3:20 PM Subject: Re: [Audyssey] Mysteries of the Ancients Levels I agree completely with the right honourable gentlemans statement. Tom. Do what you want, and be proud of it. If you get reasonable feedback from the community for reasonable changes, make them happen if you wish. no one is forcing you to do anything at all. And as was said, you can't please everyone. Just be pleased yourself that you've done a great job - all the blood sweat and tears you've put into this should count for something on your part. Well done, and keep going with it! --- Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to gamers-unsubscr...@audyssey.org. You can make changes or update your subscription via the web, at http://audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org. All messages are archived and can be searched and read at http://www.mail-archive.com/gamers@audyssey.org. If you have any questions or concerns regarding the management of the list, please send E-mail to gamers-ow...@audyssey.org. --- Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to gamers-unsubscr...@audyssey.org. You can make changes or update your subscription via the web, at http://audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org. All messages are archived and can be searched and read at http://www.mail-archive.com/gamers@audyssey.org. If you have any questions or concerns regarding the management of the list, please send E-mail to gamers-ow...@audyssey.org.
Re: [Audyssey] Heli
I'm glad you're looking forward to seeing that, as you were one of the folks I had in mind--since, after all, you're one of the few die-hard vb6 programmers left. (We're quite outnumbered now...) Enjoy! Ken Downey President DreamTechInteractive! And, Blind Comfort! The pleasant way to experience massage! It's the Caring without the Staring! - Original Message - From: Jim Kitchen j...@kitchensinc.net To: Ken the Crazy Gamers@audyssey.org Sent: Friday, January 21, 2011 6:21 PM Subject: Re: [Audyssey] Heli Hi Ken, Thank you very much for sharing. I have not yet looked at the code, but definitely plan to. I have never actually seen VB6, DX8, 3d code. Looking forward to checking it out. Thanks again for sharing. TGIF and BFN Jim I like Visual Basic 6.0 because I can not C. j...@kitchensinc.net http://www.kitchensinc.net (440) 286-6920 Chardon Ohio USA --- Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to gamers-unsubscr...@audyssey.org. You can make changes or update your subscription via the web, at http://audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org. All messages are archived and can be searched and read at http://www.mail-archive.com/gamers@audyssey.org. If you have any questions or concerns regarding the management of the list, please send E-mail to gamers-ow...@audyssey.org. --- Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to gamers-unsubscr...@audyssey.org. You can make changes or update your subscription via the web, at http://audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org. All messages are archived and can be searched and read at http://www.mail-archive.com/gamers@audyssey.org. If you have any questions or concerns regarding the management of the list, please send E-mail to gamers-ow...@audyssey.org.
Re: [Audyssey] Heli
By the way, I updated the link just now. I added a couple changes, as well as a compiled executable. Only big bug I see is that the angle for hitting the TV with your gun doesn't work right, and possibly that means the targeting for the opponent is off too. If you really want to get whipped, smash the TV and he'll really get mad and kick your tail. I think I gave him too much speed for that event though, so I'll probably fix that next time. Meanwhile, if you think he's moving too slow, just shoot him to get respawned--or you can do this as soon as you start. When you're at 0,1 and near the ground, turn until you're facing about 215 degrees then shoot your gun. Nowhere near the TV--that's the bug I mentioned. It'll shoot it for now though, so you can speed the enemy radically. Shoot it six times and he'll be moving along quite nicely. Remember, this bug won't last long though, so enjoy it while you have it! Ken Downey President DreamTechInteractive! And, Blind Comfort! The pleasant way to experience massage! It's the Caring without the Staring! - Original Message - From: Jim Kitchen j...@kitchensinc.net To: Ken the Crazy Gamers@audyssey.org Sent: Friday, January 21, 2011 6:21 PM Subject: Re: [Audyssey] Heli Hi Ken, Thank you very much for sharing. I have not yet looked at the code, but definitely plan to. I have never actually seen VB6, DX8, 3d code. Looking forward to checking it out. Thanks again for sharing. TGIF and BFN Jim I like Visual Basic 6.0 because I can not C. j...@kitchensinc.net http://www.kitchensinc.net (440) 286-6920 Chardon Ohio USA --- Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to gamers-unsubscr...@audyssey.org. You can make changes or update your subscription via the web, at http://audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org. All messages are archived and can be searched and read at http://www.mail-archive.com/gamers@audyssey.org. If you have any questions or concerns regarding the management of the list, please send E-mail to gamers-ow...@audyssey.org. --- Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to gamers-unsubscr...@audyssey.org. You can make changes or update your subscription via the web, at http://audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org. All messages are archived and can be searched and read at http://www.mail-archive.com/gamers@audyssey.org. If you have any questions or concerns regarding the management of the list, please send E-mail to gamers-ow...@audyssey.org.
[Audyssey] giftanum link
Hi all, here's the download link for giftanum. Download I also want space colony cleaner, email me a link along with a patch. best regards, Jack --- Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to gamers-unsubscr...@audyssey.org. You can make changes or update your subscription via the web, at http://audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org. All messages are archived and can be searched and read at http://www.mail-archive.com/gamers@audyssey.org. If you have any questions or concerns regarding the management of the list, please send E-mail to gamers-ow...@audyssey.org.
Re: [Audyssey] giftanum link
Space colony cleaner? I haven't heard that mentioned in a while! What's up with it--is it freeware, since you're asking for a patch? Ken Downey President DreamTechInteractive! And, Blind Comfort! The pleasant way to experience massage! It's the Caring without the Staring! - Original Message - From: Jack F mymonkeyboy2...@gmail.com To: gamers gamers@audyssey.org Sent: Friday, January 21, 2011 10:31 PM Subject: [Audyssey] giftanum link Hi all, here's the download link for giftanum. Download I also want space colony cleaner, email me a link along with a patch. best regards, Jack --- Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to gamers-unsubscr...@audyssey.org. You can make changes or update your subscription via the web, at http://audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org. All messages are archived and can be searched and read at http://www.mail-archive.com/gamers@audyssey.org. If you have any questions or concerns regarding the management of the list, please send E-mail to gamers-ow...@audyssey.org. --- Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to gamers-unsubscr...@audyssey.org. You can make changes or update your subscription via the web, at http://audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org. All messages are archived and can be searched and read at http://www.mail-archive.com/gamers@audyssey.org. If you have any questions or concerns regarding the management of the list, please send E-mail to gamers-ow...@audyssey.org.
Re: [Audyssey] Mysteries of the Ancients Levels
If you knew anything about Thomas Ward's integrity and his effort to keep us all abreast of the status of his work, you wouldn't have even posted that. It could be considered flaming, to say the least. --- Laughter is the best medicine, so look around, find a dose and take it to heart. - Original Message - From: burakyuksek burakyuksek...@gmail.com To: Gamers Discussion list gamers@audyssey.org Sent: Friday, January 21, 2011 1:32 PM Subject: Re: [Audyssey] Mysteries of the Ancients Levels Hi, Out of topic but where is USA raceway? Is this developing or is this a ver'r'r'r'r'r'r'r'r'y big lie? sevgiler saygilar - Original Message - From: Tom Randall kf6...@comcast.net To: 'Gamers Discussion list' gamers@audyssey.org Sent: Friday, January 21, 2011 8:11 PM Subject: Re: [Audyssey] Mysteries of the Ancients Levels Well speaking for myself I agree with the person who said we are dealing with an imperfect situation here. I too am one of those who purchased the preorder from Alchemy way back in the day which by the way I never do and never will again other than for mainstream titles, but this game just sounded too cool. When Alchemy went away I was fully prepared to eat my 35 bucks or whatever it was. I was totally jazzed when Tom took the project over. Sure it is frustrating having to wait several years for this to turn out, but frankly anyone who gives Tom a hard time about this has a heck of a lot of nerve in my view, because 99 times out of a hundred they'd've just been out the 35 bucks and that would have been that. So Tom, do it the way you want to, I've waited this long I can wait a little longer. as you surely know by now you're never gonna please everyone no matter what you do so you may as well do it the way you want to. You've put a lot of sweat into this project and it should be something you're proud of when you are done. Best, Tom -Original Message- From: gamers-boun...@audyssey.org [mailto:gamers-boun...@audyssey.org] On Behalf Of Thomas Ward Sent: Thursday, January 20, 2011 11:32 AM To: Gamers Discussion list Subject: Re: [Audyssey] Mysteries of the Ancients Levels Hi Shaun, Yeah. Thing is most of them have no clue what is like to create a multipurpose game engine and then still produce a game at the same time. It would be kind of like writing BGT and Q9 at the same time. Since MOTA requires the G3D Engine there is no question which product comes first, but having the engine more or less ready for production now will mean I can crank out games in under a year. It just requires that piece of software I didn't have two or three years ago, and I happened to have to write by hand because there was no BGT to purchase at the time. Cheers! On 1/20/11, shaun everiss sm.ever...@gmail.com wrote: well tom, they have been waiting a fecking long time for the games. That you had to write your own engine has slowed things down. TO be fair if I was a preorder user I'd probably be going down your throat at you, flaming, swearing and such. These people have waited years and years for this game or games. I think they are rather fed up with the waiting. This is not your fault, the new engine for the most part really rocks and will enable you to do a major load of stuff. But they don't care anymore they want the fecking game after all they payed for it!!! --- Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to gamers-unsubscr...@audyssey.org. You can make changes or update your subscription via the web, at http://audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org. All messages are archived and can be searched and read at http://www.mail-archive.com/gamers@audyssey.org. If you have any questions or concerns regarding the management of the list, please send E-mail to gamers-ow...@audyssey.org. --- Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to gamers-unsubscr...@audyssey.org. You can make changes or update your subscription via the web, at http://audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org. All messages are archived and can be searched and read at http://www.mail-archive.com/gamers@audyssey.org. If you have any questions or concerns regarding the management of the list, please send E-mail to gamers-ow...@audyssey.org. --- Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to gamers-unsubscr...@audyssey.org. You can make changes or update your subscription via the web, at http://audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org. All messages are archived and can be searched and read at http://www.mail-archive.com/gamers@audyssey.org. If you have any questions or concerns regarding the management of the list, please send E-mail to gamers-ow...@audyssey.org. --- Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to gamers-unsubscr...@audyssey.org. You can make changes or
Re: [Audyssey] Raceway was Mysteries of the Ancients
well, I still support you with stuff. I could do some of the voiceovers for raceway if you care for it. I don't have that much of a highend system but the quality is reasonable, I have used it myself for some stuff. There is my guards zip if you want to listen, there is absolutely no hiss or background. I can't mix, I can't do sfx but i can do voices if you care for it. At 12:33 p.m. 22/01/2011, you wrote: Hi, You know, it is comments exactly like yours that people don't like to create games for the VI community. When a certain title doesn't appear on the spot, immediately on demand, they resort to name calling, make false statements, and outright call the developer of said product a liar. However, since you brought it up I'll answer your question directly. As far as USA Raceway goes it is still in development. As I have told you and plenty of others many times before I could create USA Raceway, Mysteries of the Ancients, or anything else I had to create a game engine to handle all the low-level stuff such as input, audio, networking, window management, etc. In short all the common core features you would normally find in any game. Rather than rewrite all of that stuff from scratch time and time again I did exactly the same thing Philip Bennefall is doing and wrote a game engine called Genesis 3D, G3D, which will aid me in producing games much quicker and will aid me in upgrading and maintaining games throughout the lifetime of the product or products. So why isn't USA Raceway done? Think about it a moment. If I have just spent something like two years writing the Genesis 3D Engine, spent some time working on Mysteries of the Ancients, where have I had the time to produce and release a demo of Raceway? Finally, you are forgetting something else. Sounds, music, acting, etc doesn't come for free unless you pirate it. Since I'm not about to pirate my material for Raceway that means I'm going to have to sell Mysteries of the Ancients in order to raise the money to acquire better sounds etc for Raceway. The sounds and music James North gave me are not very high quality. Actually, they suck if you ask me. You want crappy music and sounds, or would you rather be patient and wait for me to do a better job? Point is calling me a liar, saying the game is a very big lie, is absolutely unconstructive. You absolutely have no idea how much work I've put into these projects. You absolutely have no clue how much pressure people have put on me to produce these projects on some totally unrealistic time table. If you or anyone else think it is so dang easy I want you to do it yourself. Yes, I mean learn C++, write your own fully qualified game engine like BGT or G3D, and then write two extremely advanced games all in two or three years. Plus on top of that you need to find time to help raise your son, go to work, eat, sleep, watch a little TV, read a good book, and find a life while producing these projects. Does that sound a bit crazy? Well, it is. People don't think about how crazy it is when they send me e-mails accuse me of lying, fooling around, goofing off, not producing a game like Raceway on their own time table, whatever. They expect me to produce the game on some unrealistic time table, write a game engine easily as complex as BGT at the same time, forget about my family life, and spend a good couple thousand on sounds and music too. Plus I don't want to here a word about the so-called pre orders for Raceway either. I didn't receive one single penny for Raceway, not a dime, so the money that was supposed to be raised to produce the game in the first place doesn't exist. I don't have it. So I have to either raise the money another way, pay out of my own pocket, and hope to get my money back when it goes on sale. That's the truth, and if you don't believe it that's your problem. I've run out of patients with people like you accusing me of lying and sayingRaceway is a big lie etc. On 1/21/11, burakyuksek burakyuksek...@gmail.com wrote: Hi, Out of topic but where is USA raceway? Is this developing or is this a ver'r'r'r'r'r'r'r'r'y big lie? sevgiler saygilar --- Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to gamers-unsubscr...@audyssey.org. You can make changes or update your subscription via the web, at http://audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org. All messages are archived and can be searched and read at http://www.mail-archive.com/gamers@audyssey.org. If you have any questions or concerns regarding the management of the list, please send E-mail to gamers-ow...@audyssey.org. --- Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to gamers-unsubscr...@audyssey.org. You can make changes or update your subscription via the web, at http://audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org. All messages are archived and can be searched and read at http://www.mail-archive.com/gamers@audyssey.org. If you have any
Re: [Audyssey] Mysteries of the Ancients Levels
on the subject of nes, I know you can get the music for nes stuff. I am not sure about copywrites for it though, but if you cared to you could use it and stuff. duckhunt by lworks, makes me feel I am playing on a machine of yesteryear. At 12:50 p.m. 22/01/2011, you wrote: Hi Dark, Dark wrote: i do know exactly what you mean, though I've never played the nes batman game you mention (I have played the Mega drive one though. My reply: If I'm not mistaken that was a port or remake of the original NES version to the Mega Drive wasn't it? Dark wrote: The game is simple, and the game's goal, blow up enemies, find power ups, look for the exit, is equally simple, however the execution of this is far more complex simply because the levels are such huge mazes. My reply: So I gather. Of course I wasn't planning on making Mysteries of the Ancients quite so large. Obviously, since the inspiration is Tomb Raider I expect the levels will be more on par with the Tomb Raider side-scrollers like Nightmare Stone and Prophecy for the Nintendo Gameboy. Dark wrote: As i said, shades of doom deffinately shared some of this feeling, particularly in not being restricted in progress, but I've yet to see an audio side scroller that even comes close. My reply: Yeah, I haven't seen one either. Part of it is up until now most side-scrollers like Super Liam, Tarzan Junior, Q9, etc were restricted to a 1d platform run/jump left/right type format. Mysteries of the Ancients at least offers a virticle movement allowing me to create some very large levels both left/right and up/down. Should be interesting. Cheers! --- Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to gamers-unsubscr...@audyssey.org. You can make changes or update your subscription via the web, at http://audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org. All messages are archived and can be searched and read at http://www.mail-archive.com/gamers@audyssey.org. If you have any questions or concerns regarding the management of the list, please send E-mail to gamers-ow...@audyssey.org. --- Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to gamers-unsubscr...@audyssey.org. You can make changes or update your subscription via the web, at http://audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org. All messages are archived and can be searched and read at http://www.mail-archive.com/gamers@audyssey.org. If you have any questions or concerns regarding the management of the list, please send E-mail to gamers-ow...@audyssey.org.
Re: [Audyssey] Heli
yeah and only gona get worse. Now with bgt almost anyone that has a mind to can program without any real fuss. Then with things like the g3d engine people can program without having to spend months on writing loads of things. Game creation engines and kits are the way of the future and we have at least 2 of them going in the works one out allready and rocking. At 02:19 p.m. 22/01/2011, you wrote: I'm glad you're looking forward to seeing that, as you were one of the folks I had in mind--since, after all, you're one of the few die-hard vb6 programmers left. (We're quite outnumbered now...) Enjoy! Ken Downey President DreamTechInteractive! And, Blind Comfort! The pleasant way to experience massage! It's the Caring without the Staring! - Original Message - From: Jim Kitchen j...@kitchensinc.net To: Ken the Crazy Gamers@audyssey.org Sent: Friday, January 21, 2011 6:21 PM Subject: Re: [Audyssey] Heli Hi Ken, Thank you very much for sharing. I have not yet looked at the code, but definitely plan to. I have never actually seen VB6, DX8, 3d code. Looking forward to checking it out. Thanks again for sharing. TGIF and BFN Jim I like Visual Basic 6.0 because I can not C. j...@kitchensinc.net http://www.kitchensinc.net (440) 286-6920 Chardon Ohio USA --- Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to gamers-unsubscr...@audyssey.org. You can make changes or update your subscription via the web, at http://audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org. All messages are archived and can be searched and read at http://www.mail-archive.com/gamers@audyssey.org. If you have any questions or concerns regarding the management of the list, please send E-mail to gamers-ow...@audyssey.org. --- Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to gamers-unsubscr...@audyssey.org. You can make changes or update your subscription via the web, at http://audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org. All messages are archived and can be searched and read at http://www.mail-archive.com/gamers@audyssey.org. If you have any questions or concerns regarding the management of the list, please send E-mail to gamers-ow...@audyssey.org. --- Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to gamers-unsubscr...@audyssey.org. You can make changes or update your subscription via the web, at http://audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org. All messages are archived and can be searched and read at http://www.mail-archive.com/gamers@audyssey.org. If you have any questions or concerns regarding the management of the list, please send E-mail to gamers-ow...@audyssey.org.
Re: [Audyssey] Heli
have you updated the dropbox folder with this info to? At 02:24 p.m. 22/01/2011, you wrote: By the way, I updated the link just now. I added a couple changes, as well as a compiled executable. Only big bug I see is that the angle for hitting the TV with your gun doesn't work right, and possibly that means the targeting for the opponent is off too. If you really want to get whipped, smash the TV and he'll really get mad and kick your tail. I think I gave him too much speed for that event though, so I'll probably fix that next time. Meanwhile, if you think he's moving too slow, just shoot him to get respawned--or you can do this as soon as you start. When you're at 0,1 and near the ground, turn until you're facing about 215 degrees then shoot your gun. Nowhere near the TV--that's the bug I mentioned. It'll shoot it for now though, so you can speed the enemy radically. Shoot it six times and he'll be moving along quite nicely. Remember, this bug won't last long though, so enjoy it while you have it! Ken Downey President DreamTechInteractive! And, Blind Comfort! The pleasant way to experience massage! It's the Caring without the Staring! - Original Message - From: Jim Kitchen j...@kitchensinc.net To: Ken the Crazy Gamers@audyssey.org Sent: Friday, January 21, 2011 6:21 PM Subject: Re: [Audyssey] Heli Hi Ken, Thank you very much for sharing. I have not yet looked at the code, but definitely plan to. I have never actually seen VB6, DX8, 3d code. Looking forward to checking it out. Thanks again for sharing. TGIF and BFN Jim I like Visual Basic 6.0 because I can not C. j...@kitchensinc.net http://www.kitchensinc.net (440) 286-6920 Chardon Ohio USA --- Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to gamers-unsubscr...@audyssey.org. You can make changes or update your subscription via the web, at http://audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org. All messages are archived and can be searched and read at http://www.mail-archive.com/gamers@audyssey.org. If you have any questions or concerns regarding the management of the list, please send E-mail to gamers-ow...@audyssey.org. --- Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to gamers-unsubscr...@audyssey.org. You can make changes or update your subscription via the web, at http://audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org. All messages are archived and can be searched and read at http://www.mail-archive.com/gamers@audyssey.org. If you have any questions or concerns regarding the management of the list, please send E-mail to gamers-ow...@audyssey.org. --- Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to gamers-unsubscr...@audyssey.org. You can make changes or update your subscription via the web, at http://audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org. All messages are archived and can be searched and read at http://www.mail-archive.com/gamers@audyssey.org. If you have any questions or concerns regarding the management of the list, please send E-mail to gamers-ow...@audyssey.org.
Re: [Audyssey] giftanum link
I havn't heard about it either, I wouldn't mind that game to, did its site go away or something. At 05:44 p.m. 22/01/2011, you wrote: Space colony cleaner? I haven't heard that mentioned in a while! What's up with it--is it freeware, since you're asking for a patch? Ken Downey President DreamTechInteractive! And, Blind Comfort! The pleasant way to experience massage! It's the Caring without the Staring! - Original Message - From: Jack F mymonkeyboy2...@gmail.com To: gamers gamers@audyssey.org Sent: Friday, January 21, 2011 10:31 PM Subject: [Audyssey] giftanum link Hi all, here's the download link for giftanum. Download I also want space colony cleaner, email me a link along with a patch. best regards, Jack --- Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to gamers-unsubscr...@audyssey.org. You can make changes or update your subscription via the web, at http://audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org. All messages are archived and can be searched and read at http://www.mail-archive.com/gamers@audyssey.org. If you have any questions or concerns regarding the management of the list, please send E-mail to gamers-ow...@audyssey.org. --- Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to gamers-unsubscr...@audyssey.org. You can make changes or update your subscription via the web, at http://audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org. All messages are archived and can be searched and read at http://www.mail-archive.com/gamers@audyssey.org. If you have any questions or concerns regarding the management of the list, please send E-mail to gamers-ow...@audyssey.org. --- Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to gamers-unsubscr...@audyssey.org. You can make changes or update your subscription via the web, at http://audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org. All messages are archived and can be searched and read at http://www.mail-archive.com/gamers@audyssey.org. If you have any questions or concerns regarding the management of the list, please send E-mail to gamers-ow...@audyssey.org.
Re: [Audyssey] Raceway was Mysteries of the Ancients
While I can understand you being incredibly annoyed at this sort of comment Tom (heck I would be), I will point out that Burac is Tirkish, eleven years old and does not have the best English, - though it has significantly improved from when he first turned up on audiogames.net. I suspect he used google translator for this, and big lie in the sense of falsehood, immoral action wasn't what he meant to say. I would guess it was something more along the lines of: is the write up on your page correct that raceway is stil in developement? Rather than making an accusation. All the best, Dark. --- Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to gamers-unsubscr...@audyssey.org. You can make changes or update your subscription via the web, at http://audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org. All messages are archived and can be searched and read at http://www.mail-archive.com/gamers@audyssey.org. If you have any questions or concerns regarding the management of the list, please send E-mail to gamers-ow...@audyssey.org.
Re: [Audyssey] Mysteries of the Ancients Levels
Hi Tom. I'm not sure about batman, though to be perfectly honest the graphics are so universally dark in that game I've always found it slightly difficult to play. T2002 has actually recieved some quite severe cryticism about the level size, indeed it's a sort of standing joke that a true Turrican fan will welcome the large size where as anyone who isn't will complain about it ;D. We've discussed the audio vertical movement business before, sinse that's for me always been one of the most revolutionary things about Mota, and I'm glad that will be expanded to something more complete. Beware the Grue! Dark. - Original Message - From: Thomas Ward thomasward1...@gmail.com To: Gamers Discussion list gamers@audyssey.org Sent: Friday, January 21, 2011 11:50 PM Subject: Re: [Audyssey] Mysteries of the Ancients Levels Hi Dark, Dark wrote: i do know exactly what you mean, though I've never played the nes batman game you mention (I have played the Mega drive one though. My reply: If I'm not mistaken that was a port or remake of the original NES version to the Mega Drive wasn't it? Dark wrote: The game is simple, and the game's goal, blow up enemies, find power ups, look for the exit, is equally simple, however the execution of this is far more complex simply because the levels are such huge mazes. My reply: So I gather. Of course I wasn't planning on making Mysteries of the Ancients quite so large. Obviously, since the inspiration is Tomb Raider I expect the levels will be more on par with the Tomb Raider side-scrollers like Nightmare Stone and Prophecy for the Nintendo Gameboy. Dark wrote: As i said, shades of doom deffinately shared some of this feeling, particularly in not being restricted in progress, but I've yet to see an audio side scroller that even comes close. My reply: Yeah, I haven't seen one either. Part of it is up until now most side-scrollers like Super Liam, Tarzan Junior, Q9, etc were restricted to a 1d platform run/jump left/right type format. Mysteries of the Ancients at least offers a virticle movement allowing me to create some very large levels both left/right and up/down. Should be interesting. Cheers! --- Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to gamers-unsubscr...@audyssey.org. You can make changes or update your subscription via the web, at http://audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org. All messages are archived and can be searched and read at http://www.mail-archive.com/gamers@audyssey.org. If you have any questions or concerns regarding the management of the list, please send E-mail to gamers-ow...@audyssey.org. --- Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to gamers-unsubscr...@audyssey.org. You can make changes or update your subscription via the web, at http://audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org. All messages are archived and can be searched and read at http://www.mail-archive.com/gamers@audyssey.org. If you have any questions or concerns regarding the management of the list, please send E-mail to gamers-ow...@audyssey.org.
