Re: [Audyssey] mota beta 22 thoughts
I agree. I've fired enough guns in my life to be able to say that as well. And I've done enough archery to know that the bow sounds are more or less spot on also. Granted most of my experience was with a much smaller bow than what I imagine the bow Angela finds would be. And that one sounded qite different. Given my shall we say, small stature I'd probably still need a child's bow since I don't know if I could draw a full-sized one effectively. We are the Knights who say...Ni! - Original Message - From: Valiant8086 valiant8...@lavabit.com To: Gamers Discussion list gamers@audyssey.org Sent: Tuesday, August 16, 2011 10:37 PM Subject: Re: [Audyssey] mota beta 22 thoughts Hi. I like the newer sounds myself. I've recorded gunshots myself and they sound more like the newer ones than what the original mota gunshots sounded like. Sent with Thunderbird 3.1.10 portable. On 8/16/2011 12:08 PM, Bryan Peterson wrote: Maybe release the Beta 18 sounds as a separate sound pack? That way those who wanted it could have it while those who, like me, are happy with the newer sounds, could stick with those. It's the sae idea that was discussed with regard to speech packs with different voices. We are the Knights who say...Ni! - Original Message - From: Thomas Ward thomasward1...@gmail.com To: Gamers Discussion list gamers@audyssey.org Sent: Tuesday, August 16, 2011 9:20 AM Subject: Re: [Audyssey] mota beta 22 thoughts Hi John, Thanks for your thoughts and comments. However, I have a few responces of my own below. John wrote: I personally preferred the weapon sounds from beta 18. For me, the new ones are far more sci fi, and far less realistic. My reply: Well, that's unfortunate because the gun shots etc in beta 18 were low fidelity and I wanted to replace them with hi-fi sounds. As I purchased the new sounds for round about $35 I can't just afford to throw that money away and put the old ones back in. Besides I'm personally happy with the new sounds so if people want the old ones I'll see what other people have to say about them before I put the old sounds back in the game. John Wrote: The new door sounds sound like a haunted house rather than an ancient temple. The older ones (a stone door) really make the ambience authentic. My Reply: Not really. Most ancient greek temples used wooden doors not stone. Were this ancient Egypt or something stone would in deed be more appropriate here. So I think this is a situation of historical accuracy vs player perspective. So I'd like to hear others thoughts here. If the majority of the people want the stone doors back I'll do it, but it would not be historically accurate in my book. John wrote: The ability to jump continually (from beta 18) was an invaluable aid in making my times with the levers, and getting over the fire pit in level one and the chasm in level two. My Reply: Sorry, That is not technically possible. The way jumping worked in say beta 18 caused endless problems with joysticks, mice, etc. You had no control over when to jump and when you wanted to stop jumping because it would go into an infinite loop usually ending up with Angela in a fire, chasm, etc before you were able to stop. So restrictionms were put in place that you had to let go of the controls keyboard, mouse, joystick, whatever before starting a new jump. I'm sorry, but I had no choice but to do it this way. John Wrote: I really preferred the previous sound for nearing a spike. I've found the sound since beta 19 rather hard to here, particularly near statues. My Reply: I see. Rather than replacing them perhaps just increasing the volume might be a better solution? John Wrote: When picking up objects, you have to press enter on the object rather than holding it down. My Reply: Again this is a technical restriction. I changed the way the G3D Engine handles input to fix certain issues with handling input and in the process of fixing the bigger problem this was a side effect of the fix. So there isn't anything I can do but to restore the old input code which will introduce problems and bugs into the game that would be undesirable. So I'm afraid there isn't anything I can do to fix this behavior without causing more bugs and problems than it is worth. John Wrote: Right now, it's not that hard to blast my way through all the monsters in the game without getting hurt. The enemies with bows and fire spells are usually the only ones to hit me, seeing as I can just shoot the others before they get close. This leads into the suggestion: it might add a level of difficulty (perhaps in later levels, or in all of them if you like) to have more than one monster in a room. My Reply: What difficulty level are you playing on? I usually play on Advanced and Expert and believe me one enemy is more than enough of a challenge. If you are still playing on say Beginner then the game was intentionally made to be easy, and if you find it too easy then you
Re: [Audyssey] New gamebook, The horrible dungeons of dreadful doom!
Hi Tom. what you say about programming makes sense, and that might actually be something I'd look into when my phd is finished, sinse creating an rpg has always been a desire of mine. for superhero powers though, I'm afraid mutants is precisely the sort of rp system that can! handle just about any power from super strength, to magic, to super science. it has rules for creating a generic close or ranged, attack and fitting it with an element or an effect if needed. For instance, my characters' powered armour has lasers which are simply a standard ranged attacked at one targit that do the full degree of my characters' damage. Another character in our party is the reincarnation of a god of sunlight. She has a blast of light attack. This is not as damaging as my lasers, but has a dazle effect, and also sinse it's a blast of light can affect shadow based creatures. another of our party is a half fae, and she has a bow which she uses to fire arrows. all of us derive our powers from different sources, but mechanically, all of the attacks can be classified as ranged attacks against a single targit doing different sorts of damage and different sorts of effects, heck my armour also has several ranged attacks itself, going from a dimentional cannon that can affect insubstantial creatures, to a scope which does less damage but has a greater chance of hitting, - then I have enhanced strenght and can always punch or grapple people too! As you might guess, i'm prety much the group's main fighter, though other people have skilsl like healing, magic rituals, mental manipulation and such. My point however is that actually a full system could be created that could handle spells, super powers or whatever, but it would be a hugely complex thing to do, mutants afterall is a pretty complex rp game and you probably couldn't put the mechanics into a gamebook in a satisfactory way. Beware the grue! Dark. --- Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to gamers-unsubscr...@audyssey.org. You can make changes or update your subscription via the web, at http://audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org. All messages are archived and can be searched and read at http://www.mail-archive.com/gamers@audyssey.org. If you have any questions or concerns regarding the management of the list, please send E-mail to gamers-ow...@audyssey.org.
Re: [Audyssey] New gamebook, The horrible dungeons of dreadful doom!
yep, i got to the same point. I believe there is a way around it but I'm not sure what it is maybe asking on the guestbook over at the ff project site will help. Beware the grue! Dark. - Original Message - From: shaun everiss sm.ever...@gmail.com To: Gamers Discussion list gamers@audyssey.org Sent: Tuesday, August 16, 2011 11:25 PM Subject: Re: [Audyssey] New gamebook, The horrible dungeons of dreadful doom! yeah I really hate house of horror. I manage to role the skills I need, I have luck on my side I am strong. I have past all the traps and got the super weapons. Now I kill the boss and die. I guess I have to kill his weaker guy first but its tricky. Worse still even if I do succeed I get killed by the rest of the gang and there is no other exit bar continuation or death. At 02:58 a.m. 17/08/2011, you wrote: Well actually the fire exit is probably the only place in the book where one random choice can kill you. I really dislike gamebooks where it's a case of right or left door, right your dead! and there's no clue involved, you just die, house of horror on the fighting fantasy project site, and the novel it was based on house of hell are very bad for that. The fire exit though I thought was a bit of a no brainer, and just stuck it in for kicks, sinse I also tried to always make deaths as amusing as possible. Beware the grue! Dark. --- Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to gamers-unsubscr...@audyssey.org. You can make changes or update your subscription via the web, at http://audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org. All messages are archived and can be searched and read at http://www.mail-archive.com/gamers@audyssey.org. If you have any questions or concerns regarding the management of the list, please send E-mail to gamers-ow...@audyssey.org. --- Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to gamers-unsubscr...@audyssey.org. You can make changes or update your subscription via the web, at http://audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org. All messages are archived and can be searched and read at http://www.mail-archive.com/gamers@audyssey.org. If you have any questions or concerns regarding the management of the list, please send E-mail to gamers-ow...@audyssey.org. --- Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to gamers-unsubscr...@audyssey.org. You can make changes or update your subscription via the web, at http://audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org. All messages are archived and can be searched and read at http://www.mail-archive.com/gamers@audyssey.org. If you have any questions or concerns regarding the management of the list, please send E-mail to gamers-ow...@audyssey.org.
Re: [Audyssey] better control of troop training in castaways
Yep, I noticed this too, even though i had three knights, the soldiers kept on being knights even when i had three cloaks and 2 armour in my barracks. the ai that is supposed to balance military to insure that soldiers train to be the troop type you have least of doesn't seem to be working unfortunately. i don't know if actually assigning soldiers to train is necessary though, sinse if the ai worked as suggested and soldiers tried to equalize your number of troops that should work. i will say though with the weakness circle this just makes life even more difficult, sinse you don't necessarily want! 7 knights, when you could have five knights and two rangers. I also agree about mission 3, it seems impossible, because the enemies get stronger and stronger far faster than you can even if you raise their base. imho raids should do more damage to them. Another way that might make the game flexible would be to remove the requirement for metal from the barracks, sinse that would mean you don't encessarily have to build up metal production first, and thus could concentrate on other methods and troop types like rangers and pikemen. Beware the grue! Dark. - Original Message - From: alex wallis alexwallis...@googlemail.com To: gamers@audyssey.org Sent: Wednesday, August 17, 2011 1:25 AM Subject: [Audyssey] better control of troop training in castaways Hi.Hi, I am still playing mission 3 in castaways, and I must say I think it needs some serious rebalancing, at the moment I think its unbeatable. but anyway that's not why I am writing, I am writing to ask could we have more control over troop training? as at the moment, the game seems to automatically assume just because there is armour at the barracks I want anyone I tell to be a soldier to become a knight. I really think that the military jobs need to each have there own categories, so soldiers, literally meaning ordinary soldiers, a specific category for knights, and all other military units should have there own job types. as I frequently find myself in the position where I am building up spare stockpiles of armour, and yet I don't want people to become knights just because the armour is lying around I would actually like to be able to set what military unit people become. --- Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to gamers-unsubscr...@audyssey.org. You can make changes or update your subscription via the web, at http://audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org. All messages are archived and can be searched and read at http://www.mail-archive.com/gamers@audyssey.org. If you have any questions or concerns regarding the management of the list, please send E-mail to gamers-ow...@audyssey.org. --- Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to gamers-unsubscr...@audyssey.org. You can make changes or update your subscription via the web, at http://audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org. All messages are archived and can be searched and read at http://www.mail-archive.com/gamers@audyssey.org. If you have any questions or concerns regarding the management of the list, please send E-mail to gamers-ow...@audyssey.org.
Re: [Audyssey] Castaways version 1.6b including Mission 3
Wow kelvin congrats, Though it sounds like the stratogy you employed was rather crazy there ;d. Beware the grue! Dark. - Original Message - From: Kelvin Tan k...@weiliankelvin.com To: Gamers Discussion list gamers@audyssey.org Sent: Wednesday, August 17, 2011 2:39 AM Subject: Re: [Audyssey] Castaways version 1.6b including Mission 3 hi jeremy and all! i just completed mission 3! enemies were just starting to destroy my first building when my 12th catapault bagan construction. i through all my population to become builders before my first catappault is destroyed! it was really a struggle! i created only 8 knights and i think 4 cavalry. the knights were starting to die off 1 by 1 though, and my food resources was already running dangerously low. i think i was rather fortunate to complete the mission. not sure if i can complete it again. this mission is really the most challenging mission in deed! great job man jeremy! - Original Message - From: Jeremy Kaldobsky jer...@kaldobsky.com To: Gamers Discussion list gamers@audyssey.org Sent: Wednesday, August 17, 2011 12:19 AM Subject: Re: [Audyssey] Castaways version 1.6b including Mission 3 Good question, I can see I didn't do a very good job of explaining that. When I spoke of each unit's strength and defense, that was a general summary of the unit which applies to it most of the time. For example, that information is good for when you are sending your troops against goblins or Yetti. When going up against human foes, there are a few extra rules that come in to play. Knights receive an attack bonus when facing pikemen. Pikemen get a bonus against Cavalry, Cavalry bonus against Rangers, and rangers bonus against Knights. It's a little ring of attack power, so that each type of unit does have something it is exceptionally good at attacking, but another thing that it is more likely to be harmed by. Hopefully that makes more sense now that I've explained it a little more. hi jeremy. i'm a little confused here. u said from your previous email: - Cavalry are weaker than even Rangers. They deal about 3 times the damage of a regular soldier, but their speed on the field is much faster than anyone else. If memory serves me, they are nearly double the speed of a night so they are more efficient soldiers in that regard. Their specialty is to attack enemy Rangers, and their killing power nearly doubles when they face them. so, they are weaker than rangers in strength, but they are also best used to kill rangers? --- Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to gamers-unsubscr...@audyssey.org. You can make changes or update your subscription via the web, at http://audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org. All messages are archived and can be searched and read at http://www.mail-archive.com/gamers@audyssey.org. If you have any questions or concerns regarding the management of the list, please send E-mail to gamers-ow...@audyssey.org. No virus found in this incoming message. Checked by AVG - www.avg.com Version: 8.5.449 / Virus Database: 271.1.1/3837 - Release Date: 08/16/11 06:34:00 --- Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to gamers-unsubscr...@audyssey.org. You can make changes or update your subscription via the web, at http://audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org. All messages are archived and can be searched and read at http://www.mail-archive.com/gamers@audyssey.org. If you have any questions or concerns regarding the management of the list, please send E-mail to gamers-ow...@audyssey.org. --- Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to gamers-unsubscr...@audyssey.org. You can make changes or update your subscription via the web, at http://audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org. All messages are archived and can be searched and read at http://www.mail-archive.com/gamers@audyssey.org. If you have any questions or concerns regarding the management of the list, please send E-mail to gamers-ow...@audyssey.org.
[Audyssey] 'bug' in darkgrue.
hi jeremy. there is a 'bug' in the gamebook creater. spose I am playing a gamebook, and I am died. then, to pervent me to die, I press the back button. this is a very problumatic bug because peoples can cheat easyly --- Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to gamers-unsubscr...@audyssey.org. You can make changes or update your subscription via the web, at http://audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org. All messages are archived and can be searched and read at http://www.mail-archive.com/gamers@audyssey.org. If you have any questions or concerns regarding the management of the list, please send E-mail to gamers-ow...@audyssey.org.
Re: [Audyssey] some questions regarding the list
hi, what I search on google to know how to stop this nasty filter? if you know, tell me. --- Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to gamers-unsubscr...@audyssey.org. You can make changes or update your subscription via the web, at http://audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org. All messages are archived and can be searched and read at http://www.mail-archive.com/gamers@audyssey.org. If you have any questions or concerns regarding the management of the list, please send E-mail to gamers-ow...@audyssey.org.
Re: [Audyssey] arrangement of buildings list in castawaysand a suggestion.
Nice thought Che. Also markers could let you plan out where future buildings go a bit more logically, by marking a square say for your stables even before you've got the necessary requirements. Beware the grue! Dark. - Original Message - From: Che blindadrenal...@gmail.com To: Gamers Discussion list gamers@audyssey.org Sent: Wednesday, August 17, 2011 5:17 AM Subject: Re: [Audyssey] arrangement of buildings list in castawaysand a suggestion. I agree these suggestions would be good. also, the ability to set markers with a short note per would be helpful. so i could make a marker for my current main quarry, then from anywhere else on the map, pop open my marker list, hit q, then enter and boom, i'm at my quarry. this would go a long way towards helping organize these large maps methinks. later, che On 8/16/2011 10:42 PM, Christopher Bartlett wrote: Yep, I'd agree with the terrain location suggestions and the reorder of the building lists. With 832 squares to check out in mission 3, it's a bit clumsy. I suppose I could make an off-line version of the map, but that would take forever. Chris Bartlett -Original Message- From: gamers-boun...@audyssey.org [mailto:gamers-boun...@audyssey.org] On Behalf Of alex wallis Sent: Tuesday, August 16, 2011 10:52 AM To: gamers@audyssey.org Subject: [Audyssey] arrangement of buildings list in castaways and a suggestion. Hi list. just a bit of a suggestion regarding the building list in castaways, at the moment, the order of the list seems a bit haphazard, for example, I think that all the farm types should be listed right next to each other, at the moment you have meet and vegetable farms, and then right near the bottom of the list is the animal farm, I think this should be grouped with the other two farms so they are next to each other in the list. I think in fact, that the buildings should be grouped in the order that they depend on each other, so for example, I would have the butchers shop, then the textile, and then the hospital, and other buildings that depend on it. I think also that the vinyard should be listed next to the tavern. and also perhaps the tannery should go next to the monastery as again they depend on each other. I also had another idea when playing mission 3, I think because the maps are so big, and it can take some time to explore them, I think a really useful feature would be a terrain location mode, so lets say I am at a1 and want to quickly find the nearest site to put my quarry, I could bring up a list of terrain types and find out where the nearest bit of forest, rocky ground or empty land is etc. alternatively, I did think of another job that could make this more of a useful in game feature, that of an explorer or cartographer. OK at the moment you can arrow around to find things, but if you had an explorer or cartographer, you could find out from him where the nearest bit of forest is or whatever, and a benefit of having him could be that all your peasants and builders move around quicker, as he could advise on the quickest root. I certainly think a quick terrain location feature could be useful anyway. --- Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to gamers-unsubscr...@audyssey.org. You can make changes or update your subscription via the web, at http://audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org. All messages are archived and can be searched and read at http://www.mail-archive.com/gamers@audyssey.org. If you have any questions or concerns regarding the management of the list, please send E-mail to gamers-ow...@audyssey.org. --- Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to gamers-unsubscr...@audyssey.org. You can make changes or update your subscription via the web, at http://audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org. All messages are archived and can be searched and read at http://www.mail-archive.com/gamers@audyssey.org. If you have any questions or concerns regarding the management of the list, please send E-mail to gamers-ow...@audyssey.org. --- Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to gamers-unsubscr...@audyssey.org. You can make changes or update your subscription via the web, at http://audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org. All messages are archived and can be searched and read at http://www.mail-archive.com/gamers@audyssey.org. If you have any questions or concerns regarding the management of the list, please send E-mail to gamers-ow...@audyssey.org. --- Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to gamers-unsubscr...@audyssey.org. You can make changes or update your subscription via the web, at http://audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org. All messages are archived and can be searched and read at http://www.mail-archive.com/gamers@audyssey.org. If
Re: [Audyssey] 'bug' in darkgrue.
Hi Druhv. It's not a bug in darkgrue, it's simply the way htlm works. You can do just the same thing in the html gamebooks from arborell.com or project aon. Rememb er that gamebooks are based on original printed books where you could just turn the pages back. Yes, this relies on the player being honest, but if your not going to play honestly, why play? Beware the grue! Dark. - Original Message - From: dhruv kumar kumardhru...@gmail.com To: Gamers Discussion list gamers@audyssey.org Sent: Wednesday, August 17, 2011 12:22 PM Subject: [Audyssey] 'bug' in darkgrue. hi jeremy. there is a 'bug' in the gamebook creater. spose I am playing a gamebook, and I am died. then, to pervent me to die, I press the back button. this is a very problumatic bug because peoples can cheat easyly --- Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to gamers-unsubscr...@audyssey.org. You can make changes or update your subscription via the web, at http://audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org. All messages are archived and can be searched and read at http://www.mail-archive.com/gamers@audyssey.org. If you have any questions or concerns regarding the management of the list, please send E-mail to gamers-ow...@audyssey.org. --- Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to gamers-unsubscr...@audyssey.org. You can make changes or update your subscription via the web, at http://audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org. All messages are archived and can be searched and read at http://www.mail-archive.com/gamers@audyssey.org. If you have any questions or concerns regarding the management of the list, please send E-mail to gamers-ow...@audyssey.org.
Re: [Audyssey] Moderator Important Message About Skynet
This is why a lot of devs don't even want a part of this list. Memebers are to childish and think they control all game makers. At 04:59 PM 8/16/2011, you wrote: Hi all, it has come to my attention that a few of you have decided to send some negative messages to Skynet regarding their recent down time, and I shouldn't have to tell you that this is unacceptable behavior. First of all, they will only talk to me regarding the server administration or web account as I am the account holder. So trying to talk to them on my behalf or whatever you think you are doing isn't helping matters for me or them. So stop doing it! Second of all, if you have questions about the website those should be directed to myself personally. If you can't get through to me via the support address you can get me via my personal address thomasward1...@gmail.com and I expect you to consider me the contact person in terms of anything to do with the USA Games website. If something needs fixed, updated, or I decide to change my account status that will be between myself and Skynet. So, please, sease and desist e-mailing them with questions, complaints, suggestions, as they have had a very rough day reinstalling and reconfiguring the servers and web accounts. Your e-mails to them were getting in the way of there attempts to getting things back up and running for myself and everyone else who use them for hosting. Finally, to let you know how serious I consider this if I get more reports that someone is going to my web host and bashing them, asking them lots of needless questions while they are working hard to fix things, whatever I'll speak to Damien and Kevin about having your subscription terminated personally. There is no excuse for this behavior. Sincerely, Thomas Ward Co-Moderator of the Audyssey Mailing list --- Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to gamers-unsubscr...@audyssey.org. You can make changes or update your subscription via the web, at http://audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org. All messages are archived and can be searched and read at http://www.mail-archive.com/gamers@audyssey.org. If you have any questions or concerns regarding the management of the list, please send E-mail to gamers-ow...@audyssey.org. --- Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to gamers-unsubscr...@audyssey.org. You can make changes or update your subscription via the web, at http://audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org. All messages are archived and can be searched and read at http://www.mail-archive.com/gamers@audyssey.org. If you have any questions or concerns regarding the management of the list, please send E-mail to gamers-ow...@audyssey.org.
[Audyssey] Mota thoughts
Hi. Well I've finally6 got a copy of mota, and I'm liking what I'm seeing thus far, the analogue jump system is as i expected, as is the running jumps. the only two miner niggles I have are first, for some reason you don't always seem to reach a ledge after climbing up a rope and jumping off, sometimes you fall back to the bottom even when you've climbed as far as you can upwards. A note, perhaps the indicator saying stone ledge whenb your in a position to jump off might help, as might an indicator on how far you have fallen. Also, for some reason i can't attack monsters if I'm on a flight of stairs. After jumping the big gap and climbing downwards, there's a flight of steps going down and usually an enemy down there. whatever weapon I use, I don't seem able to targit at all. if there is a key to targit my attacks to a monster below me, I'd like to know. Other than that, i'm liking thus far, and these two issues might just be me getting used to the mechanics. All the best, Dark. --- Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to gamers-unsubscr...@audyssey.org. You can make changes or update your subscription via the web, at http://audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org. All messages are archived and can be searched and read at http://www.mail-archive.com/gamers@audyssey.org. If you have any questions or concerns regarding the management of the list, please send E-mail to gamers-ow...@audyssey.org.
Re: [Audyssey] Mota thoughts
Hi Dark, As for your first point about jumping onto ledges and missing that's often the result of simply not jumping far enough. I've done it plenty of times myself and all I can say is to try again if that happens.You will get a feel for jumping onto ledges after a while. As to your second point that's an unresolved technical problem between side-scrollers and 3d based game play. You can not shoot from a staircase, ledge, etc because the look up/down commands page up and down only changes the y axis of view and unfortunally in MOTA the z axis is up/down. So I'm going have to write a custom look up/down function for this game specifically to resolve this problem or rewrite the targeting code to do this automatically in a 2d environment. Either way it is one of those things I intend to fix sometime between now and rc1. Cheers! On 8/17/11, dark d...@xgam.org wrote: Hi. Well I've finally6 got a copy of mota, and I'm liking what I'm seeing thus far, the analogue jump system is as i expected, as is the running jumps. the only two miner niggles I have are first, for some reason you don't always seem to reach a ledge after climbing up a rope and jumping off, sometimes you fall back to the bottom even when you've climbed as far as you can upwards. A note, perhaps the indicator saying stone ledge whenb your in a position to jump off might help, as might an indicator on how far you have fallen. Also, for some reason i can't attack monsters if I'm on a flight of stairs. After jumping the big gap and climbing downwards, there's a flight of steps going down and usually an enemy down there. whatever weapon I use, I don't seem able to targit at all. if there is a key to targit my attacks to a monster below me, I'd like to know. Other than that, i'm liking thus far, and these two issues might just be me getting used to the mechanics. All the best, Dark. --- Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to gamers-unsubscr...@audyssey.org. You can make changes or update your subscription via the web, at http://audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org. All messages are archived and can be searched and read at http://www.mail-archive.com/gamers@audyssey.org. If you have any questions or concerns regarding the management of the list, please send E-mail to gamers-ow...@audyssey.org. --- Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to gamers-unsubscr...@audyssey.org. You can make changes or update your subscription via the web, at http://audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org. All messages are archived and can be searched and read at http://www.mail-archive.com/gamers@audyssey.org. If you have any questions or concerns regarding the management of the list, please send E-mail to gamers-ow...@audyssey.org.
Re: [Audyssey] Mota thoughts
Hi. With your rope problem, don't forget about analogue jumping. You have to jump far enough when on a rope too just like with ledges. Sent with Thunderbird 3.1.10 portable. On 8/17/2011 10:50 AM, dark wrote: Hi. Well I've finally6 got a copy of mota, and I'm liking what I'm seeing thus far, the analogue jump system is as i expected, as is the running jumps. the only two miner niggles I have are first, for some reason you don't always seem to reach a ledge after climbing up a rope and jumping off, sometimes you fall back to the bottom even when you've climbed as far as you can upwards. A note, perhaps the indicator saying stone ledge whenb your in a position to jump off might help, as might an indicator on how far you have fallen. Also, for some reason i can't attack monsters if I'm on a flight of stairs. After jumping the big gap and climbing downwards, there's a flight of steps going down and usually an enemy down there. whatever weapon I use, I don't seem able to targit at all. if there is a key to targit my attacks to a monster below me, I'd like to know. Other than that, i'm liking thus far, and these two issues might just be me getting used to the mechanics. All the best, Dark. --- Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to gamers-unsubscr...@audyssey.org. You can make changes or update your subscription via the web, at http://audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org. All messages are archived and can be searched and read at http://www.mail-archive.com/gamers@audyssey.org. If you have any questions or concerns regarding the management of the list, please send E-mail to gamers-ow...@audyssey.org. --- Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to gamers-unsubscr...@audyssey.org. You can make changes or update your subscription via the web, at http://audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org. All messages are archived and can be searched and read at http://www.mail-archive.com/gamers@audyssey.org. If you have any questions or concerns regarding the management of the list, please send E-mail to gamers-ow...@audyssey.org.
Re: [Audyssey] 'bug' in darkgrue.
Hello dhruv, First of all, the ability to go back to the prior page as a feature of your web browser Internet Explorer, Firefox, Opra, and not of Dark Gru. So even if Jeremy or anyone else wanted to prevent this behavior they couldn't because you are blaming the wrong program here. Second of all, I hate to say this, but this shows your lack of experience with gamebooks in general. That is that these games assume that you won't cheat. If you decide to play fair or cheat all the way through its completely your own affair not the developer's. Suppose you pick up a classic gamebook printed in a hard bound or paperback book written in the early 1980's. What's to prevent you from flipping back to the prior page in the book? Of course, there is nothing to keep you from sticking in a bookmark and doing just that. The point being is that gamebooks were written to have fun, and were printed in physical books long before most people even owned personal computers. Now days they are published in electronic media html, pdf, rtf, etc but the same basic principle applies. If you don't want to cheat don't do it. The asumption of the author is that the person plays this or that gamebook to have fun and will be honest enough to play by the rules of the game. HTH On 8/17/11, dhruv kumar kumardhru...@gmail.com wrote: hi jeremy. there is a 'bug' in the gamebook creater. spose I am playing a gamebook, and I am died. then, to pervent me to die, I press the back button. this is a very problumatic bug because peoples can cheat easyly --- Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to gamers-unsubscr...@audyssey.org. You can make changes or update your subscription via the web, at http://audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org. All messages are archived and can be searched and read at http://www.mail-archive.com/gamers@audyssey.org. If you have any questions or concerns regarding the management of the list, please send E-mail to gamers-ow...@audyssey.org. --- Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to gamers-unsubscr...@audyssey.org. You can make changes or update your subscription via the web, at http://audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org. All messages are archived and can be searched and read at http://www.mail-archive.com/gamers@audyssey.org. If you have any questions or concerns regarding the management of the list, please send E-mail to gamers-ow...@audyssey.org.
Re: [Audyssey] Mota thoughts
Hi Tom. Fair enough on the look code. part of the problem is the instant you see an enemy, it's attacking you even when your above it on the stairs and it's below you. in a game like super castlevania (which had lots of stairs), you would usually just have to wait until the enemy patrolled away from the bottom of the stairs so that you could go down and hitt it. This might actually be an alternative solution for the side scroller, making enemies patrol back and forth and having the enemies only targit you when your on the same level as them. As I said with jumping, it didn't seem to happen with pits, for instance I could get over that first fire pit with either a running jump, or a standing jump from right on the ledge provided I held the keys, but it did seem to happen on ropes for some reason more often though this might just be me needing to get used to the mechanics (something which is actually nice to see in an audio game for once). i'll give the game another try and see if I can work around this. Beware the grue! dark. - Original Message - From: Thomas Ward thomasward1...@gmail.com To: Gamers Discussion list gamers@audyssey.org Sent: Wednesday, August 17, 2011 4:41 PM Subject: Re: [Audyssey] Mota thoughts Hi Dark, As for your first point about jumping onto ledges and missing that's often the result of simply not jumping far enough. I've done it plenty of times myself and all I can say is to try again if that happens.You will get a feel for jumping onto ledges after a while. As to your second point that's an unresolved technical problem between side-scrollers and 3d based game play. You can not shoot from a staircase, ledge, etc because the look up/down commands page up and down only changes the y axis of view and unfortunally in MOTA the z axis is up/down. So I'm going have to write a custom look up/down function for this game specifically to resolve this problem or rewrite the targeting code to do this automatically in a 2d environment. Either way it is one of those things I intend to fix sometime between now and rc1. Cheers! On 8/17/11, dark d...@xgam.org wrote: Hi. Well I've finally6 got a copy of mota, and I'm liking what I'm seeing thus far, the analogue jump system is as i expected, as is the running jumps. the only two miner niggles I have are first, for some reason you don't always seem to reach a ledge after climbing up a rope and jumping off, sometimes you fall back to the bottom even when you've climbed as far as you can upwards. A note, perhaps the indicator saying stone ledge whenb your in a position to jump off might help, as might an indicator on how far you have fallen. Also, for some reason i can't attack monsters if I'm on a flight of stairs. After jumping the big gap and climbing downwards, there's a flight of steps going down and usually an enemy down there. whatever weapon I use, I don't seem able to targit at all. if there is a key to targit my attacks to a monster below me, I'd like to know. Other than that, i'm liking thus far, and these two issues might just be me getting used to the mechanics. All the best, Dark. --- Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to gamers-unsubscr...@audyssey.org. You can make changes or update your subscription via the web, at http://audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org. All messages are archived and can be searched and read at http://www.mail-archive.com/gamers@audyssey.org. If you have any questions or concerns regarding the management of the list, please send E-mail to gamers-ow...@audyssey.org. --- Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to gamers-unsubscr...@audyssey.org. You can make changes or update your subscription via the web, at http://audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org. All messages are archived and can be searched and read at http://www.mail-archive.com/gamers@audyssey.org. If you have any questions or concerns regarding the management of the list, please send E-mail to gamers-ow...@audyssey.org. --- Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to gamers-unsubscr...@audyssey.org. You can make changes or update your subscription via the web, at http://audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org. All messages are archived and can be searched and read at http://www.mail-archive.com/gamers@audyssey.org. If you have any questions or concerns regarding the management of the list, please send E-mail to gamers-ow...@audyssey.org.
Re: [Audyssey] Mota thoughts
Just a tidbit to add to the stairs discussion, it's currently not possible to run up/down stairs either. Would be handy if you could get that resolved, what with there being so many timed levers in the game. Cheers Scott On 8/17/11, dark d...@xgam.org wrote: Hi Tom. Fair enough on the look code. part of the problem is the instant you see an enemy, it's attacking you even when your above it on the stairs and it's below you. in a game like super castlevania (which had lots of stairs), you would usually just have to wait until the enemy patrolled away from the bottom of the stairs so that you could go down and hitt it. This might actually be an alternative solution for the side scroller, making enemies patrol back and forth and having the enemies only targit you when your on the same level as them. As I said with jumping, it didn't seem to happen with pits, for instance I could get over that first fire pit with either a running jump, or a standing jump from right on the ledge provided I held the keys, but it did seem to happen on ropes for some reason more often though this might just be me needing to get used to the mechanics (something which is actually nice to see in an audio game for once). i'll give the game another try and see if I can work around this. Beware the grue! dark. - Original Message - From: Thomas Ward thomasward1...@gmail.com To: Gamers Discussion list gamers@audyssey.org Sent: Wednesday, August 17, 2011 4:41 PM Subject: Re: [Audyssey] Mota thoughts Hi Dark, As for your first point about jumping onto ledges and missing that's often the result of simply not jumping far enough. I've done it plenty of times myself and all I can say is to try again if that happens.You will get a feel for jumping onto ledges after a while. As to your second point that's an unresolved technical problem between side-scrollers and 3d based game play. You can not shoot from a staircase, ledge, etc because the look up/down commands page up and down only changes the y axis of view and unfortunally in MOTA the z axis is up/down. So I'm going have to write a custom look up/down function for this game specifically to resolve this problem or rewrite the targeting code to do this automatically in a 2d environment. Either way it is one of those things I intend to fix sometime between now and rc1. Cheers! On 8/17/11, dark d...@xgam.org wrote: Hi. Well I've finally6 got a copy of mota, and I'm liking what I'm seeing thus far, the analogue jump system is as i expected, as is the running jumps. the only two miner niggles I have are first, for some reason you don't always seem to reach a ledge after climbing up a rope and jumping off, sometimes you fall back to the bottom even when you've climbed as far as you can upwards. A note, perhaps the indicator saying stone ledge whenb your in a position to jump off might help, as might an indicator on how far you have fallen. Also, for some reason i can't attack monsters if I'm on a flight of stairs. After jumping the big gap and climbing downwards, there's a flight of steps going down and usually an enemy down there. whatever weapon I use, I don't seem able to targit at all. if there is a key to targit my attacks to a monster below me, I'd like to know. Other than that, i'm liking thus far, and these two issues might just be me getting used to the mechanics. All the best, Dark. --- Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to gamers-unsubscr...@audyssey.org. You can make changes or update your subscription via the web, at http://audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org. All messages are archived and can be searched and read at http://www.mail-archive.com/gamers@audyssey.org. If you have any questions or concerns regarding the management of the list, please send E-mail to gamers-ow...@audyssey.org. --- Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to gamers-unsubscr...@audyssey.org. You can make changes or update your subscription via the web, at http://audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org. All messages are archived and can be searched and read at http://www.mail-archive.com/gamers@audyssey.org. If you have any questions or concerns regarding the management of the list, please send E-mail to gamers-ow...@audyssey.org. --- Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to gamers-unsubscr...@audyssey.org. You can make changes or update your subscription via the web, at http://audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org. All messages are archived and can be searched and read at http://www.mail-archive.com/gamers@audyssey.org. If you have any questions or concerns regarding the management of the list, please send E-mail to gamers-ow...@audyssey.org. --- Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org If you want
Re: [Audyssey] 'bug' in darkgrue.
I must confess, the one thing I do do myself with gamebooks is save the game occasionally, usually after acquiring some big item or goal. this is fairly easy to do, just by adding a page to favourites in html books or, when playing physical books with my friend we just note the page number and keep a copy of our stats. This is probably slightly cheating, but sinse often the alternative is the frustrating business of going over previous choices again and again, it does make things a litle more interesting to go from the last savepoint instead. Pluss, with some of the larger books, it just is less practical to play the hole thing. For instance windhammer from chronicles of Arborell is 650 sections, which makes for a pretty mega gamebook! I've finished that one several times, and died many more, but I don't think i'd have been able to explore all the various passages and different ways around if I hadn't saved at a couple of significant staircases. In fact what is interesting with windhammer, is that for my first couple of goes through, I just couldn't find all three items needed to vanquish windhammer. Luckily I had a high enough combat score and some other bonuses to be able to do it with less than three, but for several goes through, the full three items, dragonseye, morgen's spear and dragon claw illuded me (particularly the dragon claw, finding that was a real pest!). Even though i'd finished the book before therefore, it was actually really qite an experience when I had all three items, and could complete it properly. Ironically, just after I finished it and finally! found the dragon claw, the quest for the orncrist game was released which tells how the dragon cclaw actually got into the castle of stoneholme in the first place. Beware the grue! Dark. - Original Message - From: Thomas Ward thomasward1...@gmail.com To: Gamers Discussion list gamers@audyssey.org Sent: Wednesday, August 17, 2011 5:01 PM Subject: Re: [Audyssey] 'bug' in darkgrue. Hello dhruv, First of all, the ability to go back to the prior page as a feature of your web browser Internet Explorer, Firefox, Opra, and not of Dark Gru. So even if Jeremy or anyone else wanted to prevent this behavior they couldn't because you are blaming the wrong program here. Second of all, I hate to say this, but this shows your lack of experience with gamebooks in general. That is that these games assume that you won't cheat. If you decide to play fair or cheat all the way through its completely your own affair not the developer's. Suppose you pick up a classic gamebook printed in a hard bound or paperback book written in the early 1980's. What's to prevent you from flipping back to the prior page in the book? Of course, there is nothing to keep you from sticking in a bookmark and doing just that. The point being is that gamebooks were written to have fun, and were printed in physical books long before most people even owned personal computers. Now days they are published in electronic media html, pdf, rtf, etc but the same basic principle applies. If you don't want to cheat don't do it. The asumption of the author is that the person plays this or that gamebook to have fun and will be honest enough to play by the rules of the game. HTH On 8/17/11, dhruv kumar kumardhru...@gmail.com wrote: hi jeremy. there is a 'bug' in the gamebook creater. spose I am playing a gamebook, and I am died. then, to pervent me to die, I press the back button. this is a very problumatic bug because peoples can cheat easyly --- Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to gamers-unsubscr...@audyssey.org. You can make changes or update your subscription via the web, at http://audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org. All messages are archived and can be searched and read at http://www.mail-archive.com/gamers@audyssey.org. If you have any questions or concerns regarding the management of the list, please send E-mail to gamers-ow...@audyssey.org. --- Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to gamers-unsubscr...@audyssey.org. You can make changes or update your subscription via the web, at http://audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org. All messages are archived and can be searched and read at http://www.mail-archive.com/gamers@audyssey.org. If you have any questions or concerns regarding the management of the list, please send E-mail to gamers-ow...@audyssey.org. --- Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to gamers-unsubscr...@audyssey.org. You can make changes or update your subscription via the web, at http://audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org. All messages are archived and can be searched and read at http://www.mail-archive.com/gamers@audyssey.org. If you have any questions or concerns regarding the management of the list, please send E-mail to
Re: [Audyssey] two new and epic trailers
Nice to see that they've gone with the Street Fighter esque soundscape over Tekken. I prefer Tekken's music, but the last few SF's have come forward in terms of actual SFX in leaps and bounds. Seems like we're getting close to SF speed too, that's gonna drive Tekken players nuts haha! I've not touched Soul Calibur since the second game I think it was, so couldn't be sure how much of that was actual game play and how much was just wooshy expensive trailer, but no doubt it'll be worth picking up. I'm totally strapped at the moment. Considering auctioning off a few body parts to get me an Xbox... none of the limbs required for playing games though obviously! Scott On 8/16/11, Sarah Haake ti...@gmx.net wrote: Hi Clement, thanks for sending these links. The trailers sound really great! Well, maybe I'll spend some cash on a console some time or get the chance to try these games elsewhere, they really sound worth playing! Best regards Sarah --- Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to gamers-unsubscr...@audyssey.org. You can make changes or update your subscription via the web, at http://audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org. All messages are archived and can be searched and read at http://www.mail-archive.com/gamers@audyssey.org. If you have any questions or concerns regarding the management of the list, please send E-mail to gamers-ow...@audyssey.org. --- Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to gamers-unsubscr...@audyssey.org. You can make changes or update your subscription via the web, at http://audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org. All messages are archived and can be searched and read at http://www.mail-archive.com/gamers@audyssey.org. If you have any questions or concerns regarding the management of the list, please send E-mail to gamers-ow...@audyssey.org.
Re: [Audyssey] New gamebook, The horrible dungeons of dreadful doom!
Hi Dark, True enough. Obviously your Mutants and Masterminds game is a more complex game where there are lots of different stats to keep track of and much harder to put into a gamebook in a satisfactory way as you pointed out. However, the point still stands that generic stats don't necessarily apply to each and every game out there so its up to a creator to come up with rules, skills, and stats on a per game basis I think. Lastly on the scripting angle right now I'm looking at Python as my generic gamebook/text adventure language at the moment. Even for something like writing your typical Infocom type adventure I have found Python well suited to the task. Oh, I've tried Adrift, Inform, Tads, etc but Python struck me as the happy balance between the power of a fully functional programming language and ease of use. Python is light on sintax so its easy to pick up and learn. Its cross-platform, and all the documentation is free. Programming doesn't get much better than that. For example, lets assume I want to print a intro to my new altra cool text adventure there really isn't much to it in Python. Its so simple that it is not much more difficult than writing the text up in html. def GameIntro(): #Write intro message to the screen print Long long ago\n print in a galaxy far far away\n print the heroic Rebel Alliance continues their\n print struggle against the Galactic Empire.\n print Meanwhile the rebel leader, Princess Leia, hurries home\n print with the secret plans of a new Imperial super weapon\n print known as the Death Star.\n print It is feared that this new super weapon\n print may bring an end to the Rebbel Alliance and all they stand for.\n #Prompt the player to press return raw_input(Press return to continue:\n) #End function As you can see Python is well suited to quick and easy programming on the fly. Unlike say C or C++ there is a minimal amount of extraneous syntax like braces, brackets, semi-colons, and what not which makes Python suited for exactly this kind of game. Oh, I still love my C and C++, but why do that when Python can do the same thing with half the effort required? Basically, my point is when or if you ever choose to start programming Python might be a place for you to start if you are thinking of programming text adventures, gamebooks, or an all out RPG without too much coding involved. Cheers! On 8/16/11, dark d...@xgam.org wrote: Hi Tom. what you say about programming makes sense, and that might actually be something I'd look into when my phd is finished, sinse creating an rpg has always been a desire of mine. for superhero powers though, I'm afraid mutants is precisely the sort of rp system that can! handle just about any power from super strength, to magic, to super science. it has rules for creating a generic close or ranged, attack and fitting it with an element or an effect if needed. For instance, my characters' powered armour has lasers which are simply a standard ranged attacked at one targit that do the full degree of my characters' damage. Another character in our party is the reincarnation of a god of sunlight. She has a blast of light attack. This is not as damaging as my lasers, but has a dazle effect, and also sinse it's a blast of light can affect shadow based creatures. another of our party is a half fae, and she has a bow which she uses to fire arrows. all of us derive our powers from different sources, but mechanically, all of the attacks can be classified as ranged attacks against a single targit doing different sorts of damage and different sorts of effects, heck my armour also has several ranged attacks itself, going from a dimentional cannon that can affect insubstantial creatures, to a scope which does less damage but has a greater chance of hitting, - then I have enhanced strenght and can always punch or grapple people too! As you might guess, i'm prety much the group's main fighter, though other people have skilsl like healing, magic rituals, mental manipulation and such. My point however is that actually a full system could be created that could handle spells, super powers or whatever, but it would be a hugely complex thing to do, mutants afterall is a pretty complex rp game and you probably couldn't put the mechanics into a gamebook in a satisfactory way. Beware the grue! Dark. --- Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to gamers-unsubscr...@audyssey.org. You can make changes or update your subscription via the web, at http://audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org. All messages are archived and can be searched and read at http://www.mail-archive.com/gamers@audyssey.org. If you have any questions or concerns regarding the management of the list, please send E-mail to gamers-ow...@audyssey.org.
[Audyssey] pan
Hi. I'm having a big problem with some of my computers and I'm sort of getting weery of trying to put up with it, wondered if anyone else knows anything about this. I never hear anyone else complaining. It's weird. I can't stand it, I don't see how anyone else who had this problem couldn't notice it. Basically, my sounds don't pan properly. More accurately, my stereo field isn't quite right. I tried to play shades of doom today, and I just can't seem to do it, because when a monster gets close to me, it is totally impossible to tell where they are. They are always dead center, I don't know which way to turn. When they're off in the distance, I can figure out where they are then, but the stereo field still isn't as good as what I'm used to. Take Any of Jim Kitchen's games, like mach 1 tts. I totally can't play that, because the crouds on each side are right on top of me. Once I get to a turn, it's like immediately one of the crouds is right dead center in my stereo field, and It's loud enough I can't hear which way to go to get closer to the croud on the other side and off the wall. So basically I totally can not play that game. Topspeed, I haven't got any stereo perception of other cars when they are close to me, I can hear them a bit, but they are always dead center. If they go away from me a bit then I can sort of hear if they go around a corner, but on top of me it's perfectly dead center all the time even if they are all the way on the left wal and I am all the way on the right wall. Is there a way to fix this? I have a bunch of computers that do it, and a couple that don't. My mac for one doesn't seem to do it with the xp virtual machine. I thought my desktop didn't do it until I tried to play mach1tts with it and experienced the same thing. It plays topspeed better than this hp laptop does though. This computer here is an HP dm4 with a core I 5 430 processor. It has i d t audio unfortunately. I don't know why anybody would want to sell their laptops with that in it, it sucks in my oppinion. I have a Tosheba with the same processor but which has a realtech sound card and it does the same thing as the hp. The hp and tosheba both run windows xp. My netbook does it too and it uses a realtech with xp. My mac doesn't, and it runs xp. It uses, um. I can't remember what it's called now, Sirrus or something like that. I think I have my direct x all updated, somehow I think that is my problem. I think something was changed in direct x somewhere along the road that messed everything up. I'm pretty sure my desktop does great with it's audigy2zs, but it still doesn't play mach1 tts worth a hoot. Oh, but wincar6 plays ok, even on my hp, except when I get really close to a wall, it's dead center in my speakers, when I get farther away, it still sounds like it's closer to me than it really is. Like if I stay dead center where you can't hear the walls at all I can do it, but if I let it drift over any, the side of my headphones opposit the wall still sounds just about as loud as the side near the wall, even if I'm just barely in range to hear that wall. I'm stumped, about ready to do something drastic. I think btw if I set the GMA games to use software rendering for sounds it works better, so I should at least be able to play sod and gtc and lw properly. I actually forgot about that until I wrote this message. What about Jim Kitchen's games though? I really want to play mach1tts, but I just can't. It's so frustrating. --- Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to gamers-unsubscr...@audyssey.org. You can make changes or update your subscription via the web, at http://audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org. All messages are archived and can be searched and read at http://www.mail-archive.com/gamers@audyssey.org. If you have any questions or concerns regarding the management of the list, please send E-mail to gamers-ow...@audyssey.org.
Re: [Audyssey] 'bug' in darkgrue.
Hi Dark, Well, I don't think saving a page in favorites or writing down the page number is necessarily cheating. Every modern game today has some way to save the game, IE some sort of checkpoint system, so you can backup and start over from your last saved position in case you screw up. For instance, take Sryth. That's an online gamebook/RPG, but nobody expects you to start over from scratch just because some ugly ogre or giant bashes your head in. Instead, the game takes a rune of life away and transports you back to your last saved position and you can start from there, and hopefully fair better the next time you try that adventure. So saving a page or creating your own checkpoint in a gamebook isn't much different as far as I'm concerned. Sometimes it is down right necessary in very long gamebooks or quests. Cheers! On 8/17/11, dark d...@xgam.org wrote: I must confess, the one thing I do do myself with gamebooks is save the game occasionally, usually after acquiring some big item or goal. this is fairly easy to do, just by adding a page to favourites in html books or, when playing physical books with my friend we just note the page number and keep a copy of our stats. This is probably slightly cheating, but sinse often the alternative is the frustrating business of going over previous choices again and again, it does make things a litle more interesting to go from the last savepoint instead. Pluss, with some of the larger books, it just is less practical to play the hole thing. For instance windhammer from chronicles of Arborell is 650 sections, which makes for a pretty mega gamebook! I've finished that one several times, and died many more, but I don't think i'd have been able to explore all the various passages and different ways around if I hadn't saved at a couple of significant staircases. In fact what is interesting with windhammer, is that for my first couple of goes through, I just couldn't find all three items needed to vanquish windhammer. Luckily I had a high enough combat score and some other bonuses to be able to do it with less than three, but for several goes through, the full three items, dragonseye, morgen's spear and dragon claw illuded me (particularly the dragon claw, finding that was a real pest!). Even though i'd finished the book before therefore, it was actually really qite an experience when I had all three items, and could complete it properly. Ironically, just after I finished it and finally! found the dragon claw, the quest for the orncrist game was released which tells how the dragon cclaw actually got into the castle of stoneholme in the first place. Beware the grue! Dark. - Original Message - From: Thomas Ward thomasward1...@gmail.com To: Gamers Discussion list gamers@audyssey.org Sent: Wednesday, August 17, 2011 5:01 PM Subject: Re: [Audyssey] 'bug' in darkgrue. Hello dhruv, First of all, the ability to go back to the prior page as a feature of your web browser Internet Explorer, Firefox, Opra, and not of Dark Gru. So even if Jeremy or anyone else wanted to prevent this behavior they couldn't because you are blaming the wrong program here. Second of all, I hate to say this, but this shows your lack of experience with gamebooks in general. That is that these games assume that you won't cheat. If you decide to play fair or cheat all the way through its completely your own affair not the developer's. Suppose you pick up a classic gamebook printed in a hard bound or paperback book written in the early 1980's. What's to prevent you from flipping back to the prior page in the book? Of course, there is nothing to keep you from sticking in a bookmark and doing just that. The point being is that gamebooks were written to have fun, and were printed in physical books long before most people even owned personal computers. Now days they are published in electronic media html, pdf, rtf, etc but the same basic principle applies. If you don't want to cheat don't do it. The asumption of the author is that the person plays this or that gamebook to have fun and will be honest enough to play by the rules of the game. HTH On 8/17/11, dhruv kumar kumardhru...@gmail.com wrote: hi jeremy. there is a 'bug' in the gamebook creater. spose I am playing a gamebook, and I am died. then, to pervent me to die, I press the back button. this is a very problumatic bug because peoples can cheat easyly --- Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to gamers-unsubscr...@audyssey.org. You can make changes or update your subscription via the web, at http://audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org. All messages are archived and can be searched and read at http://www.mail-archive.com/gamers@audyssey.org. If you have any questions or concerns regarding the management of the list, please send E-mail to gamers-ow...@audyssey.org. --- Gamers mailing list
Re: [Audyssey] Mota thoughts
Hi Dark, About patrolling monsters that's actually a good idea. That was a feature of Montezuma's Revenge as you would recall and it did change the game play quite a bit as monsters didn't stick in one place and then move in for the kill as soon as you appeared. They constantly moved around and only atacked when you were on the same level as them and they were in attack range of course. So that might be an idea for future consideration. Cheers! On 8/17/11, dark d...@xgam.org wrote: Hi Tom. Fair enough on the look code. part of the problem is the instant you see an enemy, it's attacking you even when your above it on the stairs and it's below you. in a game like super castlevania (which had lots of stairs), you would usually just have to wait until the enemy patrolled away from the bottom of the stairs so that you could go down and hitt it. This might actually be an alternative solution for the side scroller, making enemies patrol back and forth and having the enemies only targit you when your on the same level as them. As I said with jumping, it didn't seem to happen with pits, for instance I could get over that first fire pit with either a running jump, or a standing jump from right on the ledge provided I held the keys, but it did seem to happen on ropes for some reason more often though this might just be me needing to get used to the mechanics (something which is actually nice to see in an audio game for once). i'll give the game another try and see if I can work around this. Beware the grue! dark. --- Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to gamers-unsubscr...@audyssey.org. You can make changes or update your subscription via the web, at http://audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org. All messages are archived and can be searched and read at http://www.mail-archive.com/gamers@audyssey.org. If you have any questions or concerns regarding the management of the list, please send E-mail to gamers-ow...@audyssey.org.
Re: [Audyssey] Mota thoughts
Hi Scott, That sounds like a good idea. You are right. You should be able to run up or down a flight of stairs given the fact that statues etc are on a timer and speeding up travel time would help. I'll look into adding that feature. On 8/17/11, Scott Chesworth scottcheswo...@gmail.com wrote: Just a tidbit to add to the stairs discussion, it's currently not possible to run up/down stairs either. Would be handy if you could get that resolved, what with there being so many timed levers in the game. Cheers Scott --- Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to gamers-unsubscr...@audyssey.org. You can make changes or update your subscription via the web, at http://audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org. All messages are archived and can be searched and read at http://www.mail-archive.com/gamers@audyssey.org. If you have any questions or concerns regarding the management of the list, please send E-mail to gamers-ow...@audyssey.org.
Re: [Audyssey] Mota thoughts
Tom, two more bugs freshly stumbled upon and one hopefully quick question: 1. Room 16, whatever the platform thing is in the middle of the big fire pit has a location but not a description of the object itself announced by the view command. It was a stroke of luck on the 18 zillionth attempt that I landed on it. 2. Stairs still aren't announced in the view menu. This one's been around since last time I played and caught up on the list, must've been pre beta 18, so chances are you already know about it? The question is, while I do prefer the view command nowadays, is there a key to silence speech? When there are a lot of objects in a room, I quite often find it continuing to talk around other stats. It can get mega distracting when you're trying to barge your way through rooms either against a time limit or low on health where every detail matters. Filing 'em as I find 'em, so hopefully that's all... Scott On 8/17/11, dark d...@xgam.org wrote: Hi. Well I've finally6 got a copy of mota, and I'm liking what I'm seeing thus far, the analogue jump system is as i expected, as is the running jumps. the only two miner niggles I have are first, for some reason you don't always seem to reach a ledge after climbing up a rope and jumping off, sometimes you fall back to the bottom even when you've climbed as far as you can upwards. A note, perhaps the indicator saying stone ledge whenb your in a position to jump off might help, as might an indicator on how far you have fallen. Also, for some reason i can't attack monsters if I'm on a flight of stairs. After jumping the big gap and climbing downwards, there's a flight of steps going down and usually an enemy down there. whatever weapon I use, I don't seem able to targit at all. if there is a key to targit my attacks to a monster below me, I'd like to know. Other than that, i'm liking thus far, and these two issues might just be me getting used to the mechanics. All the best, Dark. --- Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to gamers-unsubscr...@audyssey.org. You can make changes or update your subscription via the web, at http://audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org. All messages are archived and can be searched and read at http://www.mail-archive.com/gamers@audyssey.org. If you have any questions or concerns regarding the management of the list, please send E-mail to gamers-ow...@audyssey.org. --- Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to gamers-unsubscr...@audyssey.org. You can make changes or update your subscription via the web, at http://audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org. All messages are archived and can be searched and read at http://www.mail-archive.com/gamers@audyssey.org. If you have any questions or concerns regarding the management of the list, please send E-mail to gamers-ow...@audyssey.org.
Re: [Audyssey] New gamebook, The horrible dungeons of dreadful doom!
Hi Tom. By shear coincidence this actually ties in to a recent discussion on the entombbed list. Jason is speculating (ie, no official announcement yet so people don't start getting over excited), about creating another entombed game but with more stable code and some of the elements we've wanted in the previous game. One of his thoughts, is actually creating a scripting engine to handle player based contributions such as extra monsters, abilities, character classes etc. he was asking whether python was an accessible programming language for visually impared people to use and whether it would be the good basis of such scripting. obviously from your example, the answer is a distinct yes. Beware the grue! Dark. --- Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to gamers-unsubscr...@audyssey.org. You can make changes or update your subscription via the web, at http://audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org. All messages are archived and can be searched and read at http://www.mail-archive.com/gamers@audyssey.org. If you have any questions or concerns regarding the management of the list, please send E-mail to gamers-ow...@audyssey.org.
[Audyssey] Unsuscribe me please
Hi Guys, I am having trouble getting unsuscribed from the mail list. Mails to Gamers-unsubscribe and at the website page for this same function dont seem to be having results. Could someone get that done for me please? Thank you Best Regards David Acevedo --- Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to gamers-unsubscr...@audyssey.org. You can make changes or update your subscription via the web, at http://audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org. All messages are archived and can be searched and read at http://www.mail-archive.com/gamers@audyssey.org. If you have any questions or concerns regarding the management of the list, please send E-mail to gamers-ow...@audyssey.org.
Re: [Audyssey] Mota thoughts
Hi tom. Actually I'd forgotten about the patrolling enemies in monti. I think it might help the game rather than mucking about with targiting on stairs to just have the monsters walk around, it afterall gives the player another challenge, and the chance to use short range but powerful melee weapons, waiting until the monster walks away from you then creeping up behind. Beware the grue! Dark. - Original Message - From: Thomas Ward thomasward1...@gmail.com To: Gamers Discussion list gamers@audyssey.org Sent: Wednesday, August 17, 2011 6:50 PM Subject: Re: [Audyssey] Mota thoughts Hi Dark, About patrolling monsters that's actually a good idea. That was a feature of Montezuma's Revenge as you would recall and it did change the game play quite a bit as monsters didn't stick in one place and then move in for the kill as soon as you appeared. They constantly moved around and only atacked when you were on the same level as them and they were in attack range of course. So that might be an idea for future consideration. Cheers! On 8/17/11, dark d...@xgam.org wrote: Hi Tom. Fair enough on the look code. part of the problem is the instant you see an enemy, it's attacking you even when your above it on the stairs and it's below you. in a game like super castlevania (which had lots of stairs), you would usually just have to wait until the enemy patrolled away from the bottom of the stairs so that you could go down and hitt it. This might actually be an alternative solution for the side scroller, making enemies patrol back and forth and having the enemies only targit you when your on the same level as them. As I said with jumping, it didn't seem to happen with pits, for instance I could get over that first fire pit with either a running jump, or a standing jump from right on the ledge provided I held the keys, but it did seem to happen on ropes for some reason more often though this might just be me needing to get used to the mechanics (something which is actually nice to see in an audio game for once). i'll give the game another try and see if I can work around this. Beware the grue! dark. --- Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to gamers-unsubscr...@audyssey.org. You can make changes or update your subscription via the web, at http://audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org. All messages are archived and can be searched and read at http://www.mail-archive.com/gamers@audyssey.org. If you have any questions or concerns regarding the management of the list, please send E-mail to gamers-ow...@audyssey.org. --- Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to gamers-unsubscr...@audyssey.org. You can make changes or update your subscription via the web, at http://audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org. All messages are archived and can be searched and read at http://www.mail-archive.com/gamers@audyssey.org. If you have any questions or concerns regarding the management of the list, please send E-mail to gamers-ow...@audyssey.org.
Re: [Audyssey] pan
Hi, If you run dxdiag and look at the audio tab and see what the sliders are all set too that may give you (and us) a better idea. Please write back with that information :). Hth, -Michael. -- From: Valiant8086 valiant8...@lavabit.com Sent: Wednesday, August 17, 2011 12:26 PM To: Gamers Discussion list gamers@audyssey.org Subject: [Audyssey] pan Hi. I'm having a big problem with some of my computers and I'm sort of getting weery of trying to put up with it, wondered if anyone else knows anything about this. I never hear anyone else complaining. It's weird. I can't stand it, I don't see how anyone else who had this problem couldn't notice it. Basically, my sounds don't pan properly. More accurately, my stereo field isn't quite right. I tried to play shades of doom today, and I just can't seem to do it, because when a monster gets close to me, it is totally impossible to tell where they are. They are always dead center, I don't know which way to turn. When they're off in the distance, I can figure out where they are then, but the stereo field still isn't as good as what I'm used to. Take Any of Jim Kitchen's games, like mach 1 tts. I totally can't play that, because the crouds on each side are right on top of me. Once I get to a turn, it's like immediately one of the crouds is right dead center in my stereo field, and It's loud enough I can't hear which way to go to get closer to the croud on the other side and off the wall. So basically I totally can not play that game. Topspeed, I haven't got any stereo perception of other cars when they are close to me, I can hear them a bit, but they are always dead center. If they go away from me a bit then I can sort of hear if they go around a corner, but on top of me it's perfectly dead center all the time even if they are all the way on the left wal and I am all the way on the right wall. Is there a way to fix this? I have a bunch of computers that do it, and a couple that don't. My mac for one doesn't seem to do it with the xp virtual machine. I thought my desktop didn't do it until I tried to play mach1tts with it and experienced the same thing. It plays topspeed better than this hp laptop does though. This computer here is an HP dm4 with a core I 5 430 processor. It has i d t audio unfortunately. I don't know why anybody would want to sell their laptops with that in it, it sucks in my oppinion. I have a Tosheba with the same processor but which has a realtech sound card and it does the same thing as the hp. The hp and tosheba both run windows xp. My netbook does it too and it uses a realtech with xp. My mac doesn't, and it runs xp. It uses, um. I can't remember what it's called now, Sirrus or something like that. I think I have my direct x all updated, somehow I think that is my problem. I think something was changed in direct x somewhere along the road that messed everything up. I'm pretty sure my desktop does great with it's audigy2zs, but it still doesn't play mach1 tts worth a hoot. Oh, but wincar6 plays ok, even on my hp, except when I get really close to a wall, it's dead center in my speakers, when I get farther away, it still sounds like it's closer to me than it really is. Like if I stay dead center where you can't hear the walls at all I can do it, but if I let it drift over any, the side of my headphones opposit the wall still sounds just about as loud as the side near the wall, even if I'm just barely in range to hear that wall. I'm stumped, about ready to do something drastic. I think btw if I set the GMA games to use software rendering for sounds it works better, so I should at least be able to play sod and gtc and lw properly. I actually forgot about that until I wrote this message. What about Jim Kitchen's games though? I really want to play mach1tts, but I just can't. It's so frustrating. --- Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to gamers-unsubscr...@audyssey.org. You can make changes or update your subscription via the web, at http://audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org. All messages are archived and can be searched and read at http://www.mail-archive.com/gamers@audyssey.org. If you have any questions or concerns regarding the management of the list, please send E-mail to gamers-ow...@audyssey.org. --- Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to gamers-unsubscr...@audyssey.org. You can make changes or update your subscription via the web, at http://audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org. All messages are archived and can be searched and read at http://www.mail-archive.com/gamers@audyssey.org. If you have any questions or concerns regarding the management of the list, please send E-mail to gamers-ow...@audyssey.org.
Re: [Audyssey] pan
Hi. Ok thanks. I tried running dxdiag. I don't have any sliders. It shows what my operating system is, my hardware devices and some other things, but there aren't any mention of sliders. There are two tabs for audio, sound1 and sound2. They don't have anything that looks like you could control anything, just informational stuff. I could try saving all information with the button there and send it to this list, but I'm not sure that would say anything useful. Anybody know where hardware acceleration is for windows 7? Maybe I need to turn it off, I wonder if that's the same thing as setting the GMA games to use software rendering or what ever it is called, as I mentioned in my first message of this thread? --- Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to gamers-unsubscr...@audyssey.org. You can make changes or update your subscription via the web, at http://audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org. All messages are archived and can be searched and read at http://www.mail-archive.com/gamers@audyssey.org. If you have any questions or concerns regarding the management of the list, please send E-mail to gamers-ow...@audyssey.org.
Re: [Audyssey] Moderator Important Message About Skynet
Well spam and other junk as well as this type of user to user arguing seem to be a feature of not just this list but other places. I have not seen it appear really at all on the audiogames forum as bad though we get spam bots. Unfortunately its happened on klango to the degree where I have terminated all group and forum subscriptions. Due to the fact the klango seems not to be playing youtubes for some reason or even loading them right I am seriously thinking of deleting my backups, data, the software and my account if at all possible. I havn't but I suspect that every place the blind hang out seems to get into this stuff. Ofcause everyone has their own opinions but what will often happen as when any dissaggreements happen they will often become large arguments ending in the topic itself being forgot and ending in bickering and personal attacks. Imyself have to much to do to be participating in this. I was going to put a new topic but since its been highlighted well. This is why a lot of devs don't even want a part of this list. Memebers are to childish and think they control all game makers. At 04:59 PM 8/16/2011, you wrote: Hi all, it has come to my attention that a few of you have decided to send some negative messages to Skynet regarding their recent down time, and I shouldn't have to tell you that this is unacceptable behavior. First of all, they will only talk to me regarding the server administration or web account as I am the account holder. So trying to talk to them on my behalf or whatever you think you are doing isn't helping matters for me or them. So stop doing it! Second of all, if you have questions about the website those should be directed to myself personally. If you can't get through to me via the support address you can get me via my personal address thomasward1...@gmail.com and I expect you to consider me the contact person in terms of anything to do with the USA Games website. If something needs fixed, updated, or I decide to change my account status that will be between myself and Skynet. So, please, sease and desist e-mailing them with questions, complaints, suggestions, as they have had a very rough day reinstalling and reconfiguring the servers and web accounts. Your e-mails to them were getting in the way of there attempts to getting things back up and running for myself and everyone else who use them for hosting. Finally, to let you know how serious I consider this if I get more reports that someone is going to my web host and bashing them, asking them lots of needless questions while they are working hard to fix things, whatever I'll speak to Damien and Kevin about having your subscription terminated personally. There is no excuse for this behavior. Sincerely, Thomas Ward Co-Moderator of the Audyssey Mailing list --- Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to gamers-unsubscr...@audyssey.org. You can make changes or update your subscription via the web, at http://audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org. All messages are archived and can be searched and read at http://www.mail-archive.com/gamers@audyssey.org. If you have any questions or concerns regarding the management of the list, please send E-mail to gamers-ow...@audyssey.org. --- Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to gamers-unsubscr...@audyssey.org. You can make changes or update your subscription via the web, at http://audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org. All messages are archived and can be searched and read at http://www.mail-archive.com/gamers@audyssey.org. If you have any questions or concerns regarding the management of the list, please send E-mail to gamers-ow...@audyssey.org. --- Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to gamers-unsubscr...@audyssey.org. You can make changes or update your subscription via the web, at http://audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org. All messages are archived and can be searched and read at http://www.mail-archive.com/gamers@audyssey.org. If you have any questions or concerns regarding the management of the list, please send E-mail to gamers-ow...@audyssey.org.
Re: [Audyssey] Mota thoughts
Hi Scot, I'm not suer how you had problems landing on it. Just listen for the sound and jump from the ledge. Best Regards, Hayden -Original Message- From: gamers-boun...@audyssey.org [mailto:gamers-boun...@audyssey.org] On Behalf Of Scott Chesworth Sent: Wednesday, August 17, 2011 12:55 PM To: Gamers Discussion list Subject: Re: [Audyssey] Mota thoughts Tom, two more bugs freshly stumbled upon and one hopefully quick question: 1. Room 16, whatever the platform thing is in the middle of the big fire pit has a location but not a description of the object itself announced by the view command. It was a stroke of luck on the 18 zillionth attempt that I landed on it. 2. Stairs still aren't announced in the view menu. This one's been around since last time I played and caught up on the list, must've been pre beta 18, so chances are you already know about it? The question is, while I do prefer the view command nowadays, is there a key to silence speech? When there are a lot of objects in a room, I quite often find it continuing to talk around other stats. It can get mega distracting when you're trying to barge your way through rooms either against a time limit or low on health where every detail matters. Filing 'em as I find 'em, so hopefully that's all... Scott On 8/17/11, dark d...@xgam.org wrote: Hi. Well I've finally6 got a copy of mota, and I'm liking what I'm seeing thus far, the analogue jump system is as i expected, as is the running jumps. the only two miner niggles I have are first, for some reason you don't always seem to reach a ledge after climbing up a rope and jumping off, sometimes you fall back to the bottom even when you've climbed as far as you can upwards. A note, perhaps the indicator saying stone ledge whenb your in a position to jump off might help, as might an indicator on how far you have fallen. Also, for some reason i can't attack monsters if I'm on a flight of stairs. After jumping the big gap and climbing downwards, there's a flight of steps going down and usually an enemy down there. whatever weapon I use, I don't seem able to targit at all. if there is a key to targit my attacks to a monster below me, I'd like to know. Other than that, i'm liking thus far, and these two issues might just be me getting used to the mechanics. All the best, Dark. --- Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to gamers-unsubscr...@audyssey.org. You can make changes or update your subscription via the web, at http://audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org. All messages are archived and can be searched and read at http://www.mail-archive.com/gamers@audyssey.org. If you have any questions or concerns regarding the management of the list, please send E-mail to gamers-ow...@audyssey.org. --- Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to gamers-unsubscr...@audyssey.org. You can make changes or update your subscription via the web, at http://audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org. All messages are archived and can be searched and read at http://www.mail-archive.com/gamers@audyssey.org. If you have any questions or concerns regarding the management of the list, please send E-mail to gamers-ow...@audyssey.org. - No virus found in this message. Checked by AVG - www.avg.com Version: 10.0.1392 / Virus Database: 1520/3840 - Release Date: 08/17/11 --- Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to gamers-unsubscr...@audyssey.org. You can make changes or update your subscription via the web, at http://audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org. All messages are archived and can be searched and read at http://www.mail-archive.com/gamers@audyssey.org. If you have any questions or concerns regarding the management of the list, please send E-mail to gamers-ow...@audyssey.org.
Re: [Audyssey] Mota thoughts
Hi Hayden, Yup, having played a bit on headphones now I see what you mean. My first couple of runs were on laptop speakers, so not ideal for spotting subtleties like that. Either way, the bug is still valid that it gets a location mentioned by the view command but no description of what's in that location. Scott On 8/17/11, Hayden Presley hdpres...@hotmail.com wrote: Hi Scot, I'm not suer how you had problems landing on it. Just listen for the sound and jump from the ledge. Best Regards, Hayden -Original Message- From: gamers-boun...@audyssey.org [mailto:gamers-boun...@audyssey.org] On Behalf Of Scott Chesworth Sent: Wednesday, August 17, 2011 12:55 PM To: Gamers Discussion list Subject: Re: [Audyssey] Mota thoughts Tom, two more bugs freshly stumbled upon and one hopefully quick question: 1. Room 16, whatever the platform thing is in the middle of the big fire pit has a location but not a description of the object itself announced by the view command. It was a stroke of luck on the 18 zillionth attempt that I landed on it. 2. Stairs still aren't announced in the view menu. This one's been around since last time I played and caught up on the list, must've been pre beta 18, so chances are you already know about it? The question is, while I do prefer the view command nowadays, is there a key to silence speech? When there are a lot of objects in a room, I quite often find it continuing to talk around other stats. It can get mega distracting when you're trying to barge your way through rooms either against a time limit or low on health where every detail matters. Filing 'em as I find 'em, so hopefully that's all... Scott On 8/17/11, dark d...@xgam.org wrote: Hi. Well I've finally6 got a copy of mota, and I'm liking what I'm seeing thus far, the analogue jump system is as i expected, as is the running jumps. the only two miner niggles I have are first, for some reason you don't always seem to reach a ledge after climbing up a rope and jumping off, sometimes you fall back to the bottom even when you've climbed as far as you can upwards. A note, perhaps the indicator saying stone ledge whenb your in a position to jump off might help, as might an indicator on how far you have fallen. Also, for some reason i can't attack monsters if I'm on a flight of stairs. After jumping the big gap and climbing downwards, there's a flight of steps going down and usually an enemy down there. whatever weapon I use, I don't seem able to targit at all. if there is a key to targit my attacks to a monster below me, I'd like to know. Other than that, i'm liking thus far, and these two issues might just be me getting used to the mechanics. All the best, Dark. --- Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to gamers-unsubscr...@audyssey.org. You can make changes or update your subscription via the web, at http://audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org. All messages are archived and can be searched and read at http://www.mail-archive.com/gamers@audyssey.org. If you have any questions or concerns regarding the management of the list, please send E-mail to gamers-ow...@audyssey.org. --- Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to gamers-unsubscr...@audyssey.org. You can make changes or update your subscription via the web, at http://audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org. All messages are archived and can be searched and read at http://www.mail-archive.com/gamers@audyssey.org. If you have any questions or concerns regarding the management of the list, please send E-mail to gamers-ow...@audyssey.org. - No virus found in this message. Checked by AVG - www.avg.com Version: 10.0.1392 / Virus Database: 1520/3840 - Release Date: 08/17/11 --- Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to gamers-unsubscr...@audyssey.org. You can make changes or update your subscription via the web, at http://audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org. All messages are archived and can be searched and read at http://www.mail-archive.com/gamers@audyssey.org. If you have any questions or concerns regarding the management of the list, please send E-mail to gamers-ow...@audyssey.org. --- Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to gamers-unsubscr...@audyssey.org. You can make changes or update your subscription via the web, at http://audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org. All messages are archived and can be searched and read at http://www.mail-archive.com/gamers@audyssey.org. If you have any questions or concerns regarding the management of the list, please send E-mail to gamers-ow...@audyssey.org.
[Audyssey] archery without looking - Re: mota beta 22 thoughts
What kind of archery equipment did you use and how did you aim? I shot a 60-pound White Tail Hunter made by Bear. It was a compound bow with a reduction in weight after you pulled the bow over the cam. I pulled 60 and held about 42 while aiming. My arrows were 31 inch aluminum shafts with 150 grain field points for target archery. A large spotlight was positioned above the backstop and a light probe was mounted onto the bow where sighted people would put a sight. The light probe was built into a piece of sprinkler pipe. I listened to the received signal through an earphone. I aimed for the highest tone, then released the arrow. On a good day, I could hit a paper plate 3 out of 5 times at a distance of 20 yards, equivalent to 18 meters. This was indoor archery. The light probe focused on an 18-inch circle, and it was then up to me to judge the center of that area. --- Security is not the absence of danger. It is the presence of the Lord. - Original Message - From: Bryan Peterson bpeterson2...@cableone.net To: Gamers Discussion list gamers@audyssey.org Sent: Wednesday, August 17, 2011 1:10 AM Subject: Re: [Audyssey] mota beta 22 thoughts I agree. I've fired enough guns in my life to be able to say that as well. And I've done enough archery to know that the bow sounds are more or less spot on also. Granted most of my experience was with a much smaller bow than what I imagine the bow Angela finds would be. And that one sounded qite different. Given my shall we say, small stature I'd probably still need a child's bow since I don't know if I could draw a full-sized one effectively. We are the Knights who say...Ni! - Original Message - From: Valiant8086 valiant8...@lavabit.com To: Gamers Discussion list gamers@audyssey.org Sent: Tuesday, August 16, 2011 10:37 PM Subject: Re: [Audyssey] mota beta 22 thoughts Hi. I like the newer sounds myself. I've recorded gunshots myself and they sound more like the newer ones than what the original mota gunshots sounded like. Sent with Thunderbird 3.1.10 portable. On 8/16/2011 12:08 PM, Bryan Peterson wrote: Maybe release the Beta 18 sounds as a separate sound pack? That way those who wanted it could have it while those who, like me, are happy with the newer sounds, could stick with those. It's the sae idea that was discussed with regard to speech packs with different voices. We are the Knights who say...Ni! - Original Message - From: Thomas Ward thomasward1...@gmail.com To: Gamers Discussion list gamers@audyssey.org Sent: Tuesday, August 16, 2011 9:20 AM Subject: Re: [Audyssey] mota beta 22 thoughts Hi John, Thanks for your thoughts and comments. However, I have a few responces of my own below. John wrote: I personally preferred the weapon sounds from beta 18. For me, the new ones are far more sci fi, and far less realistic. My reply: Well, that's unfortunate because the gun shots etc in beta 18 were low fidelity and I wanted to replace them with hi-fi sounds. As I purchased the new sounds for round about $35 I can't just afford to throw that money away and put the old ones back in. Besides I'm personally happy with the new sounds so if people want the old ones I'll see what other people have to say about them before I put the old sounds back in the game. John Wrote: The new door sounds sound like a haunted house rather than an ancient temple. The older ones (a stone door) really make the ambience authentic. My Reply: Not really. Most ancient greek temples used wooden doors not stone. Were this ancient Egypt or something stone would in deed be more appropriate here. So I think this is a situation of historical accuracy vs player perspective. So I'd like to hear others thoughts here. If the majority of the people want the stone doors back I'll do it, but it would not be historically accurate in my book. John wrote: The ability to jump continually (from beta 18) was an invaluable aid in making my times with the levers, and getting over the fire pit in level one and the chasm in level two. My Reply: Sorry, That is not technically possible. The way jumping worked in say beta 18 caused endless problems with joysticks, mice, etc. You had no control over when to jump and when you wanted to stop jumping because it would go into an infinite loop usually ending up with Angela in a fire, chasm, etc before you were able to stop. So restrictionms were put in place that you had to let go of the controls keyboard, mouse, joystick, whatever before starting a new jump. I'm sorry, but I had no choice but to do it this way. John Wrote: I really preferred the previous sound for nearing a spike. I've found the sound since beta 19 rather hard to here, particularly near statues. My Reply: I see. Rather than replacing them perhaps just increasing the volume might be a better solution? John Wrote: When picking up objects, you have to press enter on the object rather than holding it down.
[Audyssey] sounds apparently not missing in MOTA beta 22
I don't recall on which list this was mentioned. Someone said that they were getting a Windows ding, as when a sound is missing, when bumping into a wall and hearing the dead end indication. I don't have that problem. I wonder if it was a partial download they got? --- Security is not the absence of danger. It is the presence of the Lord. --- Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to gamers-unsubscr...@audyssey.org. You can make changes or update your subscription via the web, at http://audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org. All messages are archived and can be searched and read at http://www.mail-archive.com/gamers@audyssey.org. If you have any questions or concerns regarding the management of the list, please send E-mail to gamers-ow...@audyssey.org.
Re: [Audyssey] pan
I do not suppose you could use the volume control, I mean, you use a system that is very complex, not at all like the normal sound card that comes with your computer. Perhaps your balances are messed up? Do you have surround sound enabled by accident? --- Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to gamers-unsubscr...@audyssey.org. You can make changes or update your subscription via the web, at http://audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org. All messages are archived and can be searched and read at http://www.mail-archive.com/gamers@audyssey.org. If you have any questions or concerns regarding the management of the list, please send E-mail to gamers-ow...@audyssey.org.
Re: [Audyssey] sounds apparently not missing in MOTA beta 22
Hi, Good question. All I know when Angela runs into a wall she says, Looks like a deadend. If someone isn't getting that then they may have a bad install as it works perfectly fine here. Cheers! On 8/17/11, Charles Rivard woofer...@sbcglobal.net wrote: I don't recall on which list this was mentioned. Someone said that they were getting a Windows ding, as when a sound is missing, when bumping into a wall and hearing the dead end indication. I don't have that problem. I wonder if it was a partial download they got? --- Security is not the absence of danger. It is the presence of the Lord. --- Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to gamers-unsubscr...@audyssey.org. You can make changes or update your subscription via the web, at http://audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org. All messages are archived and can be searched and read at http://www.mail-archive.com/gamers@audyssey.org. If you have any questions or concerns regarding the management of the list, please send E-mail to gamers-ow...@audyssey.org. --- Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to gamers-unsubscr...@audyssey.org. You can make changes or update your subscription via the web, at http://audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org. All messages are archived and can be searched and read at http://www.mail-archive.com/gamers@audyssey.org. If you have any questions or concerns regarding the management of the list, please send E-mail to gamers-ow...@audyssey.org.
Re: [Audyssey] New gamebook, The horrible dungeons of dreadful doom!
Hi Dark, Yes, Python is accessible although slightly more difficult for a blind person to use. Unlike other programming languages Python requires formatting and indention instead of braces, brackets, and alike to seperate sections of code. If a blind user is unaware of how to properly format the code or can't see to line things up properly that can cause some nasty problems for the developer. There are however work arounds for the problem. The solution I use is NVDA. The programmer who wrote NVDA wrote it in Python, and writes all of his apps in Python. Naturally, since he himself is a Python programmer NVDA has the ability to sspeak tabs/line indentions which makes lining up blocks of Python code a breeze. I suppose other screen readers can do this too, but NVDA just happens to be the tool I use for the job. The other solution is to use a braille display. Braille displays have long been the programmers primary tool for coding because you can actually feel the line indentions, etc and determine if things are aligned properly. So, yeah, Python is accessible. It does help though if the screen reader will speak line indentions or number of tabs etc. You can tell just by looking at the formatting if this is an inner or outer block of code. Quite helpful with working with if-else conditional statements, loops, etc which may have several inner blocks and statements nested inside each other. Cheers! On 8/17/11, dark d...@xgam.org wrote: Hi Tom. By shear coincidence this actually ties in to a recent discussion on the entombbed list. Jason is speculating (ie, no official announcement yet so people don't start getting over excited), about creating another entombed game but with more stable code and some of the elements we've wanted in the previous game. One of his thoughts, is actually creating a scripting engine to handle player based contributions such as extra monsters, abilities, character classes etc. he was asking whether python was an accessible programming language for visually impared people to use and whether it would be the good basis of such scripting. obviously from your example, the answer is a distinct yes. Beware the grue! Dark. --- Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to gamers-unsubscr...@audyssey.org. You can make changes or update your subscription via the web, at http://audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org. All messages are archived and can be searched and read at http://www.mail-archive.com/gamers@audyssey.org. If you have any questions or concerns regarding the management of the list, please send E-mail to gamers-ow...@audyssey.org.
Re: [Audyssey] New gamebook, The horrible dungeons of dreadful doom!
Also, Jamal Masry's text/programming editor, edSharp has specific support for blind python programmers: http://www.empowermentzone.com/edsetup.exe Only for windows though, AFAIK anyway. Stay well Jacob Kruger Blind Biker Skype: BlindZA '...fate had broken his body, but not his spirit...' - Original Message - From: Thomas Ward thomasward1...@gmail.com To: Gamers Discussion list gamers@audyssey.org Sent: Thursday, August 18, 2011 6:20 AM Subject: Re: [Audyssey] New gamebook, The horrible dungeons of dreadful doom! Hi Dark, Yes, Python is accessible although slightly more difficult for a blind person to use. Unlike other programming languages Python requires formatting and indention instead of braces, brackets, and alike to seperate sections of code. If a blind user is unaware of how to properly format the code or can't see to line things up properly that can cause some nasty problems for the developer. There are however work arounds for the problem. The solution I use is NVDA. The programmer who wrote NVDA wrote it in Python, and writes all of his apps in Python. Naturally, since he himself is a Python programmer NVDA has the ability to sspeak tabs/line indentions which makes lining up blocks of Python code a breeze. I suppose other screen readers can do this too, but NVDA just happens to be the tool I use for the job. The other solution is to use a braille display. Braille displays have long been the programmers primary tool for coding because you can actually feel the line indentions, etc and determine if things are aligned properly. So, yeah, Python is accessible. It does help though if the screen reader will speak line indentions or number of tabs etc. You can tell just by looking at the formatting if this is an inner or outer block of code. Quite helpful with working with if-else conditional statements, loops, etc which may have several inner blocks and statements nested inside each other. Cheers! On 8/17/11, dark d...@xgam.org wrote: Hi Tom. By shear coincidence this actually ties in to a recent discussion on the entombbed list. Jason is speculating (ie, no official announcement yet so people don't start getting over excited), about creating another entombed game but with more stable code and some of the elements we've wanted in the previous game. One of his thoughts, is actually creating a scripting engine to handle player based contributions such as extra monsters, abilities, character classes etc. he was asking whether python was an accessible programming language for visually impared people to use and whether it would be the good basis of such scripting. obviously from your example, the answer is a distinct yes. Beware the grue! Dark. --- Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to gamers-unsubscr...@audyssey.org. You can make changes or update your subscription via the web, at http://audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org. All messages are archived and can be searched and read at http://www.mail-archive.com/gamers@audyssey.org. If you have any questions or concerns regarding the management of the list, please send E-mail to gamers-ow...@audyssey.org. --- Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to gamers-unsubscr...@audyssey.org. You can make changes or update your subscription via the web, at http://audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org. All messages are archived and can be searched and read at http://www.mail-archive.com/gamers@audyssey.org. If you have any questions or concerns regarding the management of the list, please send E-mail to gamers-ow...@audyssey.org.
Re: [Audyssey] New gamebook, The horrible dungeons of dreadful doom!
Well hal will let you know the number of tabs before a line and possibly more if I muck about with the detection settings (it's not a feature I use much). The problem with relying upon a braille display is only some people have them because they're prohibitively expensive. i looked at getting one at one stage, but couldn't afford the price tag annoyingly, and anyway now that synth voices are good enough to listen to it makes the idea of a braille display less necessary for most things. i think Jason's idea is to have scripts based upon Python people can modify, rather than python itself, so as to keep things easier for the end user, so how complex the indentation will get I'm not sure. Beware the grue! Dark. - Original Message - From: Thomas Ward thomasward1...@gmail.com To: Gamers Discussion list gamers@audyssey.org Sent: Thursday, August 18, 2011 5:20 AM Subject: Re: [Audyssey] New gamebook, The horrible dungeons of dreadful doom! Hi Dark, Yes, Python is accessible although slightly more difficult for a blind person to use. Unlike other programming languages Python requires formatting and indention instead of braces, brackets, and alike to seperate sections of code. If a blind user is unaware of how to properly format the code or can't see to line things up properly that can cause some nasty problems for the developer. There are however work arounds for the problem. The solution I use is NVDA. The programmer who wrote NVDA wrote it in Python, and writes all of his apps in Python. Naturally, since he himself is a Python programmer NVDA has the ability to sspeak tabs/line indentions which makes lining up blocks of Python code a breeze. I suppose other screen readers can do this too, but NVDA just happens to be the tool I use for the job. The other solution is to use a braille display. Braille displays have long been the programmers primary tool for coding because you can actually feel the line indentions, etc and determine if things are aligned properly. So, yeah, Python is accessible. It does help though if the screen reader will speak line indentions or number of tabs etc. You can tell just by looking at the formatting if this is an inner or outer block of code. Quite helpful with working with if-else conditional statements, loops, etc which may have several inner blocks and statements nested inside each other. Cheers! On 8/17/11, dark d...@xgam.org wrote: Hi Tom. By shear coincidence this actually ties in to a recent discussion on the entombbed list. Jason is speculating (ie, no official announcement yet so people don't start getting over excited), about creating another entombed game but with more stable code and some of the elements we've wanted in the previous game. One of his thoughts, is actually creating a scripting engine to handle player based contributions such as extra monsters, abilities, character classes etc. he was asking whether python was an accessible programming language for visually impared people to use and whether it would be the good basis of such scripting. obviously from your example, the answer is a distinct yes. Beware the grue! Dark. --- Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to gamers-unsubscr...@audyssey.org. You can make changes or update your subscription via the web, at http://audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org. All messages are archived and can be searched and read at http://www.mail-archive.com/gamers@audyssey.org. If you have any questions or concerns regarding the management of the list, please send E-mail to gamers-ow...@audyssey.org. --- Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to gamers-unsubscr...@audyssey.org. You can make changes or update your subscription via the web, at http://audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org. All messages are archived and can be searched and read at http://www.mail-archive.com/gamers@audyssey.org. If you have any questions or concerns regarding the management of the list, please send E-mail to gamers-ow...@audyssey.org.
