Re: [Audyssey] A warning to all who play survive the wild.

[loriduncan]

Hi Shane, I'll sure try that, and hope he will listen as I know him and 
walter are friends.




-Original Message- 
From: Shane Davidson

Sent: Wednesday, March 09, 2016 12:05 AM
To: Gamers Discussion list
Subject: Re: [Audyssey] A warning to all who play survive the wild.

You might consider speaking to him again, and just saying hey, I know
you already know about this, but this is still on going, did you
actually talk to this person, if you did it didn't help.
I'm happy to mediate if necessary, but you'll have to contact me off
list for that assistance.
Shane

On 3/8/2016 7:00 PM, loriduncan wrote:
Hi Shane, I did send Sam the proof and he told me he'd talk to Walter, but 
it didn't help at all, so I don't know if Sam's talk worked, or if he 
actually spoke to him.


From Lori.

-Original Message- From: Shane Davidson
Sent: Tuesday, March 08, 2016 11:55 PM
To: Gamers Discussion list
Subject: Re: [Audyssey] A warning to all who play survive the wild.

I think sam's smart enough that if someone approached him like an adult
directly and handed him this stuff, teenager or not he'd take
appropriate action. Let's not take irreversible actions we'll regret 
later.

Shane



On 3/8/2016 6:51 PM, Darren Harris wrote:

I would also put this up on the stw topic on the audiogames.net forums. I
say this because sam is subscribed to that and I believe checks the 
forums

and his topic quite regularly.

-Original Message-
From: Gamers [mailto:gamers-boun...@audyssey.org] On Behalf Of dark
Sent: 08 March 2016 22:31
To: Gamers Discussion list
Subject: Re: [Audyssey] A warning to all who play survive the wild.

A shame Jacob.

At least however members of the community can do something as far as
publicizing this goes and making sure the guy gets the treatment he 
deserves


from the community.

All the best,

Dark.
- Original Message -
From: "jacob Kruger" 
To: "Gamers Discussion list" 
Sent: Tuesday, March 08, 2016 10:07 PM
Subject: Re: [Audyssey] A warning to all who play survive the wild.



Sorry to say this, but, here in SA, it wouldn't really do much to try
report him to anyone other than his direct seniors - if they care, and
plan to do anything about it.

Stay well

Jacob Kruger
Blind Biker
Skype: BlindZA
"Roger Wilco wants to welcome you...to the space janitor's closet..."

On 2016-03-08 11:49 PM, loriduncan wrote:

Hi I have been documenting as much as I can, and the guy is based in
South Africa, so I don't know how reporting him to the police would 
work

as he's in another country.

 From Lori.

-Original Message- From: Justin Jones
Sent: Tuesday, March 08, 2016 9:11 PM
To: Gamers Discussion list
Subject: Re: [Audyssey] A warning to all who play survive the wild.

If this guy is based out of the United States, you might want to
report him. I believe that cyber-stalking is a crime (I am not sure if
it is state or federal, though).

I am not conversant with laws in either countries, but I assume that
they have similar statutes.

In any instance, insure that you document everything.

Best of luck

On 3/8/16, loriduncan  wrote:

Hi everyone, it is my painful duty to have to inform you all that for
the
last month, I have been stalked both on Skype and on Survive the wild
by one

of the admins of said game, Walter Van Wyck.  This all started when I
was
trying to get a friend away from him, and led to him stalking us both
and
being very abusive towards us, but then denying it to the other, for
example

he'd tell my friend she was worth nothing, then tell me he hadn't said
any
such thing, even though I have the evidence my friend sent me to prove
he
was lying.  He's also been very abusive when my friend and I did work
with
him on his podcasts at blindaccess.org, not in the actual podcasts
themselves, but in terms of if my friend and I dared to suggest
anything to

improve the podcasts, we were basically told to do things his way.  He
also

slated 2 of the people who gave me the inspiration to podcast, saying
he was

far better, which I thought was a totally wrong, and b childish.

Now the reason I'm telling the community all this, is because last
night my

friend down in England opened an account in stw and began playing, but
then

out of the blue, she had Walter grilling her, thinking she was me with
another account.  She skyped me and asked if I knew walter and told me
he'd

been very abusive towards her, so now my main concerne is that other
girls
might receive the same treatement as myself and my friends have done 
at

Walter's hands.

Finally, I'd like to tell you that I did report this to Sam, the
developer
of Survive the Wild, but other than saying he'd talk to Walter, Sam
has done

nothing, so Walter is still free to abuse his admin position by
threatening

me and my friends with checking up on us.

Just be careful when playing Survive the Wild everyone, it's a great
game,
and it's just such a pitty 

Re: [Audyssey] Help with using bgt

[lenron brown]

a audio guide would really help me or some clearly explained written one.

On 3/4/16, ivan soto  wrote:
> Hi, well, first let me explain that the BGT tutorial wouldn’t help at all
> because the syntax of the game engine has changed quite a bit. This is from
> BGT version 1.0 and back then, things were limited. I could help anyone with
> BGT to the best of my abilities, and as I said with on the audiogames.net
> forum, I didn’t learn very well with the BGT tutorial, its so confusing, and
> so I just started to look at code from Scrolling battles, and now got the
> hang of the network object.
> Anyway, if anyone wants, you could contact me if you need any help with BGT.
>
> Ivan Soto
> blinkwizar...@gmail.com 
> http://bwproductions.no-ip.org 
>
>
>
>> On Feb 7, 2016, at 9:43 AM, Carter Temm  wrote:
>>
>> I'll also add that the bgt audio tutorial seems to be unavailable from
>> blastbay. The original url is:
>> http://www.blastbay.com/audio/bgt_tutorial.mp3
>> Also, http://blastbay.com/audio returns a 403 forbidden error
>>
>> Sent from my iPhone
>>
>>> On Feb 6, 2016, at 4:35 PM, loriduncan  wrote:
>>>
>>> Hi everyone, I just re-downloaded bgt onto my new windows7 laptop, but am
>>> finding when I look in the program's folder I don't see any of the help
>>> documentation.  I'm trying to learn BGT from the ground up again, as it's
>>> been ages since I've actually coded properly with it but what I don't
>>> want is to sit and listen to the audio manual again, as it just went in
>>> one ear and out the other without stoping to say hi to my brain.  :)
>>> Also, if anyone has any tips on using bgt, I'd be very greatful.  Thanks,
>>> from Lori.
>>>
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Re: [Audyssey] A warning to all who play survive the wild.

[Shane Davidson]

You might consider speaking to him again, and just saying hey, I know 
you already know about this, but this is still on going, did you 
actually talk to this person, if you did it didn't help.
I'm happy to mediate if necessary, but you'll have to contact me off 
list for that assistance.

Shane

On 3/8/2016 7:00 PM, loriduncan wrote:
Hi Shane, I did send Sam the proof and he told me he'd talk to Walter, 
but it didn't help at all, so I don't know if Sam's talk worked, or if 
he actually spoke to him.


From Lori.

-Original Message- From: Shane Davidson
Sent: Tuesday, March 08, 2016 11:55 PM
To: Gamers Discussion list
Subject: Re: [Audyssey] A warning to all who play survive the wild.

I think sam's smart enough that if someone approached him like an adult
directly and handed him this stuff, teenager or not he'd take
appropriate action. Let's not take irreversible actions we'll regret 
later.

Shane



On 3/8/2016 6:51 PM, Darren Harris wrote:
I would also put this up on the stw topic on the audiogames.net 
forums. I
say this because sam is subscribed to that and I believe checks the 
forums

and his topic quite regularly.

-Original Message-
From: Gamers [mailto:gamers-boun...@audyssey.org] On Behalf Of dark
Sent: 08 March 2016 22:31
To: Gamers Discussion list
Subject: Re: [Audyssey] A warning to all who play survive the wild.

A shame Jacob.

At least however members of the community can do something as far as
publicizing this goes and making sure the guy gets the treatment he 
deserves


from the community.

All the best,

Dark.
- Original Message -
From: "jacob Kruger" 
To: "Gamers Discussion list" 
Sent: Tuesday, March 08, 2016 10:07 PM
Subject: Re: [Audyssey] A warning to all who play survive the wild.



Sorry to say this, but, here in SA, it wouldn't really do much to try
report him to anyone other than his direct seniors - if they care, and
plan to do anything about it.

Stay well

Jacob Kruger
Blind Biker
Skype: BlindZA
"Roger Wilco wants to welcome you...to the space janitor's closet..."

On 2016-03-08 11:49 PM, loriduncan wrote:

Hi I have been documenting as much as I can, and the guy is based in
South Africa, so I don't know how reporting him to the police would 
work

as he's in another country.

 From Lori.

-Original Message- From: Justin Jones
Sent: Tuesday, March 08, 2016 9:11 PM
To: Gamers Discussion list
Subject: Re: [Audyssey] A warning to all who play survive the wild.

If this guy is based out of the United States, you might want to
report him. I believe that cyber-stalking is a crime (I am not sure if
it is state or federal, though).

I am not conversant with laws in either countries, but I assume that
they have similar statutes.

In any instance, insure that you document everything.

Best of luck

On 3/8/16, loriduncan  wrote:

Hi everyone, it is my painful duty to have to inform you all that for
the
last month, I have been stalked both on Skype and on Survive the wild
by one

of the admins of said game, Walter Van Wyck.  This all started when I
was
trying to get a friend away from him, and led to him stalking us both
and
being very abusive towards us, but then denying it to the other, for
example

he'd tell my friend she was worth nothing, then tell me he hadn't 
said

any
such thing, even though I have the evidence my friend sent me to 
prove

he
was lying.  He's also been very abusive when my friend and I did work
with
him on his podcasts at blindaccess.org, not in the actual podcasts
themselves, but in terms of if my friend and I dared to suggest
anything to

improve the podcasts, we were basically told to do things his 
way.  He

also

slated 2 of the people who gave me the inspiration to podcast, saying
he was

far better, which I thought was a totally wrong, and b childish.

Now the reason I'm telling the community all this, is because last
night my

friend down in England opened an account in stw and began playing, 
but

then

out of the blue, she had Walter grilling her, thinking she was me 
with
another account.  She skyped me and asked if I knew walter and 
told me

he'd

been very abusive towards her, so now my main concerne is that other
girls
might receive the same treatement as myself and my friends have 
done at

Walter's hands.

Finally, I'd like to tell you that I did report this to Sam, the
developer
of Survive the Wild, but other than saying he'd talk to Walter, Sam
has done

nothing, so Walter is still free to abuse his admin position by
threatening

me and my friends with checking up on us.

Just be careful when playing Survive the Wild everyone, it's a great
game,
and it's just such a pitty people like him are left to get away with
verble

bullying and emotional blackmail.  I'm not saying don't play, I only
want
people to feel safe playing and to know what I've had to go through
and to
avoid this guy at all costs.

I shall be posting this to audiogames.net 

Re: [Audyssey] A warning to all who play survive the wild.

[loriduncan]

Hi I actually started a new topic in the general games room about it, to 
avoid cluttering up the actual stw thread, in case folks were looking for 
tips on the game, I didn't want to intrude on that.

From Lori.


-Original Message- 
From: Darren Harris

Sent: Tuesday, March 08, 2016 11:51 PM
To: 'Gamers Discussion list'
Subject: Re: [Audyssey] A warning to all who play survive the wild.

I would also put this up on the stw topic on the audiogames.net forums. I
say this because sam is subscribed to that and I believe checks the forums
and his topic quite regularly.

-Original Message-
From: Gamers [mailto:gamers-boun...@audyssey.org] On Behalf Of dark
Sent: 08 March 2016 22:31
To: Gamers Discussion list
Subject: Re: [Audyssey] A warning to all who play survive the wild.

A shame Jacob.

At least however members of the community can do something as far as
publicizing this goes and making sure the guy gets the treatment he deserves

from the community.

All the best,

Dark.
- Original Message - 
From: "jacob Kruger" 

To: "Gamers Discussion list" 
Sent: Tuesday, March 08, 2016 10:07 PM
Subject: Re: [Audyssey] A warning to all who play survive the wild.



Sorry to say this, but, here in SA, it wouldn't really do much to try
report him to anyone other than his direct seniors - if they care, and
plan to do anything about it.

Stay well

Jacob Kruger
Blind Biker
Skype: BlindZA
"Roger Wilco wants to welcome you...to the space janitor's closet..."

On 2016-03-08 11:49 PM, loriduncan wrote:

Hi I have been documenting as much as I can, and the guy is based in
South Africa, so I don't know how reporting him to the police would work
as he's in another country.

From Lori.


-Original Message- From: Justin Jones
Sent: Tuesday, March 08, 2016 9:11 PM
To: Gamers Discussion list
Subject: Re: [Audyssey] A warning to all who play survive the wild.

If this guy is based out of the United States, you might want to
report him. I believe that cyber-stalking is a crime (I am not sure if
it is state or federal, though).

I am not conversant with laws in either countries, but I assume that
they have similar statutes.

In any instance, insure that you document everything.

Best of luck

On 3/8/16, loriduncan  wrote:

Hi everyone, it is my painful duty to have to inform you all that for
the
last month, I have been stalked both on Skype and on Survive the wild
by one

of the admins of said game, Walter Van Wyck.  This all started when I
was
trying to get a friend away from him, and led to him stalking us both
and
being very abusive towards us, but then denying it to the other, for
example

he'd tell my friend she was worth nothing, then tell me he hadn't said
any
such thing, even though I have the evidence my friend sent me to prove
he
was lying.  He's also been very abusive when my friend and I did work
with
him on his podcasts at blindaccess.org, not in the actual podcasts
themselves, but in terms of if my friend and I dared to suggest
anything to

improve the podcasts, we were basically told to do things his way.  He
also

slated 2 of the people who gave me the inspiration to podcast, saying
he was

far better, which I thought was a totally wrong, and b childish.

Now the reason I'm telling the community all this, is because last
night my

friend down in England opened an account in stw and began playing, but
then

out of the blue, she had Walter grilling her, thinking she was me with
another account.  She skyped me and asked if I knew walter and told me
he'd

been very abusive towards her, so now my main concerne is that other
girls
might receive the same treatement as myself and my friends have done at
Walter's hands.

Finally, I'd like to tell you that I did report this to Sam, the
developer
of Survive the Wild, but other than saying he'd talk to Walter, Sam
has done

nothing, so Walter is still free to abuse his admin position by
threatening

me and my friends with checking up on us.

Just be careful when playing Survive the Wild everyone, it's a great
game,
and it's just such a pitty people like him are left to get away with
verble

bullying and emotional blackmail.  I'm not saying don't play, I only
want
people to feel safe playing and to know what I've had to go through
and to
avoid this guy at all costs.

I shall be posting this to audiogames.net with the permission of the
admins

there.  I thank you all for reading, and can only hope action will be
taken

at some stage to prove that I'm speaking nothing but the truth.

From Lori.


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Re: [Audyssey] A warning to all who play survive the wild.

[loriduncan]

Hi I don't have it thankfully, he's more bothered me on skype, which I've 
blocked him on now, and stw, which the mute feature seems to be broken, as I 
can still get his abusive pms, even though I muted him, however I'm keeping 
those logs just in case.

From Lori.


-Original Message- 
From: Darren Harris

Sent: Tuesday, March 08, 2016 11:51 PM
To: 'Gamers Discussion list'
Subject: Re: [Audyssey] A warning to all who play survive the wild.

He could be traced by his IP address.

-Original Message-
From: Gamers [mailto:gamers-boun...@audyssey.org] On Behalf Of dark
Sent: 08 March 2016 22:30
To: Gamers Discussion list
Subject: Re: [Audyssey] A warning to all who play survive the wild.

Hi justin.

Yes, cyber stalking is I believe a crime in the Uk where Lori is, however
this guy is not in the Uk and there isn't any proof of where he is in the
world. lori is just trying to warn people off in order to both protect
others, and make the admins aware of what this guy is doing.

All the best,

Dark.
- Original Message - 
From: "Justin Jones" 

To: "Gamers Discussion list" 
Sent: Tuesday, March 08, 2016 9:11 PM
Subject: Re: [Audyssey] A warning to all who play survive the wild.



If this guy is based out of the United States, you might want to
report him. I believe that cyber-stalking is a crime (I am not sure if
it is state or federal, though).

I am not conversant with laws in either countries, but I assume that
they have similar statutes.

In any instance, insure that you document everything.

Best of luck

On 3/8/16, loriduncan  wrote:

Hi everyone, it is my painful duty to have to inform you all that for the
last month, I have been stalked both on Skype and on Survive the wild by
one

of the admins of said game, Walter Van Wyck.  This all started when I was
trying to get a friend away from him, and led to him stalking us both and
being very abusive towards us, but then denying it to the other, for
example

he'd tell my friend she was worth nothing, then tell me he hadn't said
any
such thing, even though I have the evidence my friend sent me to prove he
was lying.  He's also been very abusive when my friend and I did work
with
him on his podcasts at blindaccess.org, not in the actual podcasts
themselves, but in terms of if my friend and I dared to suggest anything
to

improve the podcasts, we were basically told to do things his way.  He
also

slated 2 of the people who gave me the inspiration to podcast, saying he
was

far better, which I thought was a totally wrong, and b childish.

Now the reason I'm telling the community all this, is because last night
my

friend down in England opened an account in stw and began playing, but
then

out of the blue, she had Walter grilling her, thinking she was me with
another account.  She skyped me and asked if I knew walter and told me
he'd

been very abusive towards her, so now my main concerne is that other
girls
might receive the same treatement as myself and my friends have done at
Walter's hands.

Finally, I'd like to tell you that I did report this to Sam, the
developer
of Survive the Wild, but other than saying he'd talk to Walter, Sam has
done

nothing, so Walter is still free to abuse his admin position by
threatening

me and my friends with checking up on us.

Just be careful when playing Survive the Wild everyone, it's a great
game,
and it's just such a pitty people like him are left to get away with
verble

bullying and emotional blackmail.  I'm not saying don't play, I only want
people to feel safe playing and to know what I've had to go through and
to
avoid this guy at all costs.

I shall be posting this to audiogames.net with the permission of the
admins

there.  I thank you all for reading, and can only hope action will be
taken

at some stage to prove that I'm speaking nothing but the truth.

From Lori.


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Re: [Audyssey] A warning to all who play survive the wild.

[loriduncan]

Hi Shane, I did send Sam the proof and he told me he'd talk to Walter, but 
it didn't help at all, so I don't know if Sam's talk worked, or if he 
actually spoke to him.



From Lori.


-Original Message- 
From: Shane Davidson

Sent: Tuesday, March 08, 2016 11:55 PM
To: Gamers Discussion list
Subject: Re: [Audyssey] A warning to all who play survive the wild.

I think sam's smart enough that if someone approached him like an adult
directly and handed him this stuff, teenager or not he'd take
appropriate action. Let's not take irreversible actions we'll regret later.
Shane



On 3/8/2016 6:51 PM, Darren Harris wrote:

I would also put this up on the stw topic on the audiogames.net forums. I
say this because sam is subscribed to that and I believe checks the forums
and his topic quite regularly.

-Original Message-
From: Gamers [mailto:gamers-boun...@audyssey.org] On Behalf Of dark
Sent: 08 March 2016 22:31
To: Gamers Discussion list
Subject: Re: [Audyssey] A warning to all who play survive the wild.

A shame Jacob.

At least however members of the community can do something as far as
publicizing this goes and making sure the guy gets the treatment he 
deserves


from the community.

All the best,

Dark.
- Original Message -
From: "jacob Kruger" 
To: "Gamers Discussion list" 
Sent: Tuesday, March 08, 2016 10:07 PM
Subject: Re: [Audyssey] A warning to all who play survive the wild.



Sorry to say this, but, here in SA, it wouldn't really do much to try
report him to anyone other than his direct seniors - if they care, and
plan to do anything about it.

Stay well

Jacob Kruger
Blind Biker
Skype: BlindZA
"Roger Wilco wants to welcome you...to the space janitor's closet..."

On 2016-03-08 11:49 PM, loriduncan wrote:

Hi I have been documenting as much as I can, and the guy is based in
South Africa, so I don't know how reporting him to the police would work
as he's in another country.

 From Lori.

-Original Message- From: Justin Jones
Sent: Tuesday, March 08, 2016 9:11 PM
To: Gamers Discussion list
Subject: Re: [Audyssey] A warning to all who play survive the wild.

If this guy is based out of the United States, you might want to
report him. I believe that cyber-stalking is a crime (I am not sure if
it is state or federal, though).

I am not conversant with laws in either countries, but I assume that
they have similar statutes.

In any instance, insure that you document everything.

Best of luck

On 3/8/16, loriduncan  wrote:

Hi everyone, it is my painful duty to have to inform you all that for
the
last month, I have been stalked both on Skype and on Survive the wild
by one

of the admins of said game, Walter Van Wyck.  This all started when I
was
trying to get a friend away from him, and led to him stalking us both
and
being very abusive towards us, but then denying it to the other, for
example

he'd tell my friend she was worth nothing, then tell me he hadn't said
any
such thing, even though I have the evidence my friend sent me to prove
he
was lying.  He's also been very abusive when my friend and I did work
with
him on his podcasts at blindaccess.org, not in the actual podcasts
themselves, but in terms of if my friend and I dared to suggest
anything to

improve the podcasts, we were basically told to do things his way.  He
also

slated 2 of the people who gave me the inspiration to podcast, saying
he was

far better, which I thought was a totally wrong, and b childish.

Now the reason I'm telling the community all this, is because last
night my

friend down in England opened an account in stw and began playing, but
then

out of the blue, she had Walter grilling her, thinking she was me with
another account.  She skyped me and asked if I knew walter and told me
he'd

been very abusive towards her, so now my main concerne is that other
girls
might receive the same treatement as myself and my friends have done at
Walter's hands.

Finally, I'd like to tell you that I did report this to Sam, the
developer
of Survive the Wild, but other than saying he'd talk to Walter, Sam
has done

nothing, so Walter is still free to abuse his admin position by
threatening

me and my friends with checking up on us.

Just be careful when playing Survive the Wild everyone, it's a great
game,
and it's just such a pitty people like him are left to get away with
verble

bullying and emotional blackmail.  I'm not saying don't play, I only
want
people to feel safe playing and to know what I've had to go through
and to
avoid this guy at all costs.

I shall be posting this to audiogames.net with the permission of the
admins

there.  I thank you all for reading, and can only hope action will be
taken

at some stage to prove that I'm speaking nothing but the truth.

 From Lori.


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Re: [Audyssey] A warning to all who play survive the wild.

[Shane Davidson]

I think sam's smart enough that if someone approached him like an adult 
directly and handed him this stuff, teenager or not he'd take 
appropriate action. Let's not take irreversible actions we'll regret later.

Shane



On 3/8/2016 6:51 PM, Darren Harris wrote:

I would also put this up on the stw topic on the audiogames.net forums. I
say this because sam is subscribed to that and I believe checks the forums
and his topic quite regularly.

-Original Message-
From: Gamers [mailto:gamers-boun...@audyssey.org] On Behalf Of dark
Sent: 08 March 2016 22:31
To: Gamers Discussion list
Subject: Re: [Audyssey] A warning to all who play survive the wild.

A shame Jacob.

At least however members of the community can do something as far as
publicizing this goes and making sure the guy gets the treatment he deserves

from the community.

All the best,

Dark.
- Original Message -
From: "jacob Kruger" 
To: "Gamers Discussion list" 
Sent: Tuesday, March 08, 2016 10:07 PM
Subject: Re: [Audyssey] A warning to all who play survive the wild.



Sorry to say this, but, here in SA, it wouldn't really do much to try
report him to anyone other than his direct seniors - if they care, and
plan to do anything about it.

Stay well

Jacob Kruger
Blind Biker
Skype: BlindZA
"Roger Wilco wants to welcome you...to the space janitor's closet..."

On 2016-03-08 11:49 PM, loriduncan wrote:

Hi I have been documenting as much as I can, and the guy is based in
South Africa, so I don't know how reporting him to the police would work
as he's in another country.

 From Lori.

-Original Message- From: Justin Jones
Sent: Tuesday, March 08, 2016 9:11 PM
To: Gamers Discussion list
Subject: Re: [Audyssey] A warning to all who play survive the wild.

If this guy is based out of the United States, you might want to
report him. I believe that cyber-stalking is a crime (I am not sure if
it is state or federal, though).

I am not conversant with laws in either countries, but I assume that
they have similar statutes.

In any instance, insure that you document everything.

Best of luck

On 3/8/16, loriduncan  wrote:

Hi everyone, it is my painful duty to have to inform you all that for
the
last month, I have been stalked both on Skype and on Survive the wild
by one

of the admins of said game, Walter Van Wyck.  This all started when I
was
trying to get a friend away from him, and led to him stalking us both
and
being very abusive towards us, but then denying it to the other, for
example

he'd tell my friend she was worth nothing, then tell me he hadn't said
any
such thing, even though I have the evidence my friend sent me to prove
he
was lying.  He's also been very abusive when my friend and I did work
with
him on his podcasts at blindaccess.org, not in the actual podcasts
themselves, but in terms of if my friend and I dared to suggest
anything to

improve the podcasts, we were basically told to do things his way.  He
also

slated 2 of the people who gave me the inspiration to podcast, saying
he was

far better, which I thought was a totally wrong, and b childish.

Now the reason I'm telling the community all this, is because last
night my

friend down in England opened an account in stw and began playing, but
then

out of the blue, she had Walter grilling her, thinking she was me with
another account.  She skyped me and asked if I knew walter and told me
he'd

been very abusive towards her, so now my main concerne is that other
girls
might receive the same treatement as myself and my friends have done at
Walter's hands.

Finally, I'd like to tell you that I did report this to Sam, the
developer
of Survive the Wild, but other than saying he'd talk to Walter, Sam
has done

nothing, so Walter is still free to abuse his admin position by
threatening

me and my friends with checking up on us.

Just be careful when playing Survive the Wild everyone, it's a great
game,
and it's just such a pitty people like him are left to get away with
verble

bullying and emotional blackmail.  I'm not saying don't play, I only
want
people to feel safe playing and to know what I've had to go through
and to
avoid this guy at all costs.

I shall be posting this to audiogames.net with the permission of the
admins

there.  I thank you all for reading, and can only hope action will be
taken

at some stage to prove that I'm speaking nothing but the truth.

 From Lori.


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Re: [Audyssey] A warning to all who play survive the wild.

[Darren Harris]

He could be traced by his IP address.

-Original Message-
From: Gamers [mailto:gamers-boun...@audyssey.org] On Behalf Of dark
Sent: 08 March 2016 22:30
To: Gamers Discussion list
Subject: Re: [Audyssey] A warning to all who play survive the wild.

Hi justin.

Yes, cyber stalking is I believe a crime in the Uk where Lori is, however 
this guy is not in the Uk and there isn't any proof of where he is in the 
world. lori is just trying to warn people off in order to both protect 
others, and make the admins aware of what this guy is doing.

All the best,

Dark.
- Original Message - 
From: "Justin Jones" 
To: "Gamers Discussion list" 
Sent: Tuesday, March 08, 2016 9:11 PM
Subject: Re: [Audyssey] A warning to all who play survive the wild.


> If this guy is based out of the United States, you might want to
> report him. I believe that cyber-stalking is a crime (I am not sure if
> it is state or federal, though).
>
> I am not conversant with laws in either countries, but I assume that
> they have similar statutes.
>
> In any instance, insure that you document everything.
>
> Best of luck
>
> On 3/8/16, loriduncan  wrote:
>> Hi everyone, it is my painful duty to have to inform you all that for the
>> last month, I have been stalked both on Skype and on Survive the wild by 
>> one
>>
>> of the admins of said game, Walter Van Wyck.  This all started when I was
>> trying to get a friend away from him, and led to him stalking us both and
>> being very abusive towards us, but then denying it to the other, for 
>> example
>>
>> he'd tell my friend she was worth nothing, then tell me he hadn't said 
>> any
>> such thing, even though I have the evidence my friend sent me to prove he
>> was lying.  He's also been very abusive when my friend and I did work 
>> with
>> him on his podcasts at blindaccess.org, not in the actual podcasts
>> themselves, but in terms of if my friend and I dared to suggest anything 
>> to
>>
>> improve the podcasts, we were basically told to do things his way.  He 
>> also
>>
>> slated 2 of the people who gave me the inspiration to podcast, saying he 
>> was
>>
>> far better, which I thought was a totally wrong, and b childish.
>>
>> Now the reason I'm telling the community all this, is because last night 
>> my
>>
>> friend down in England opened an account in stw and began playing, but 
>> then
>>
>> out of the blue, she had Walter grilling her, thinking she was me with
>> another account.  She skyped me and asked if I knew walter and told me 
>> he'd
>>
>> been very abusive towards her, so now my main concerne is that other 
>> girls
>> might receive the same treatement as myself and my friends have done at
>> Walter's hands.
>>
>> Finally, I'd like to tell you that I did report this to Sam, the 
>> developer
>> of Survive the Wild, but other than saying he'd talk to Walter, Sam has 
>> done
>>
>> nothing, so Walter is still free to abuse his admin position by 
>> threatening
>>
>> me and my friends with checking up on us.
>>
>> Just be careful when playing Survive the Wild everyone, it's a great 
>> game,
>> and it's just such a pitty people like him are left to get away with 
>> verble
>>
>> bullying and emotional blackmail.  I'm not saying don't play, I only want
>> people to feel safe playing and to know what I've had to go through and 
>> to
>> avoid this guy at all costs.
>>
>> I shall be posting this to audiogames.net with the permission of the 
>> admins
>>
>> there.  I thank you all for reading, and can only hope action will be 
>> taken
>>
>> at some stage to prove that I'm speaking nothing but the truth.
>>
>> From Lori.
>>
>>
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Re: [Audyssey] A warning to all who play survive the wild.

[Darren Harris]

I would also put this up on the stw topic on the audiogames.net forums. I
say this because sam is subscribed to that and I believe checks the forums
and his topic quite regularly.

-Original Message-
From: Gamers [mailto:gamers-boun...@audyssey.org] On Behalf Of dark
Sent: 08 March 2016 22:31
To: Gamers Discussion list
Subject: Re: [Audyssey] A warning to all who play survive the wild.

A shame Jacob.

At least however members of the community can do something as far as 
publicizing this goes and making sure the guy gets the treatment he deserves

from the community.

All the best,

Dark.
- Original Message - 
From: "jacob Kruger" 
To: "Gamers Discussion list" 
Sent: Tuesday, March 08, 2016 10:07 PM
Subject: Re: [Audyssey] A warning to all who play survive the wild.


> Sorry to say this, but, here in SA, it wouldn't really do much to try 
> report him to anyone other than his direct seniors - if they care, and 
> plan to do anything about it.
>
> Stay well
>
> Jacob Kruger
> Blind Biker
> Skype: BlindZA
> "Roger Wilco wants to welcome you...to the space janitor's closet..."
>
> On 2016-03-08 11:49 PM, loriduncan wrote:
>> Hi I have been documenting as much as I can, and the guy is based in
>> South Africa, so I don't know how reporting him to the police would work
>> as he's in another country.
>>> From Lori.
>>
>> -Original Message- From: Justin Jones
>> Sent: Tuesday, March 08, 2016 9:11 PM
>> To: Gamers Discussion list
>> Subject: Re: [Audyssey] A warning to all who play survive the wild.
>>
>> If this guy is based out of the United States, you might want to
>> report him. I believe that cyber-stalking is a crime (I am not sure if
>> it is state or federal, though).
>>
>> I am not conversant with laws in either countries, but I assume that
>> they have similar statutes.
>>
>> In any instance, insure that you document everything.
>>
>> Best of luck
>>
>> On 3/8/16, loriduncan  wrote:
>>> Hi everyone, it is my painful duty to have to inform you all that for 
>>> the
>>> last month, I have been stalked both on Skype and on Survive the wild
>>> by one
>>>
>>> of the admins of said game, Walter Van Wyck.  This all started when I 
>>> was
>>> trying to get a friend away from him, and led to him stalking us both 
>>> and
>>> being very abusive towards us, but then denying it to the other, for
>>> example
>>>
>>> he'd tell my friend she was worth nothing, then tell me he hadn't said
>>> any
>>> such thing, even though I have the evidence my friend sent me to prove 
>>> he
>>> was lying.  He's also been very abusive when my friend and I did work
>>> with
>>> him on his podcasts at blindaccess.org, not in the actual podcasts
>>> themselves, but in terms of if my friend and I dared to suggest
>>> anything to
>>>
>>> improve the podcasts, we were basically told to do things his way.  He
>>> also
>>>
>>> slated 2 of the people who gave me the inspiration to podcast, saying
>>> he was
>>>
>>> far better, which I thought was a totally wrong, and b childish.
>>>
>>> Now the reason I'm telling the community all this, is because last
>>> night my
>>>
>>> friend down in England opened an account in stw and began playing, but
>>> then
>>>
>>> out of the blue, she had Walter grilling her, thinking she was me with
>>> another account.  She skyped me and asked if I knew walter and told me
>>> he'd
>>>
>>> been very abusive towards her, so now my main concerne is that other
>>> girls
>>> might receive the same treatement as myself and my friends have done at
>>> Walter's hands.
>>>
>>> Finally, I'd like to tell you that I did report this to Sam, the
>>> developer
>>> of Survive the Wild, but other than saying he'd talk to Walter, Sam
>>> has done
>>>
>>> nothing, so Walter is still free to abuse his admin position by
>>> threatening
>>>
>>> me and my friends with checking up on us.
>>>
>>> Just be careful when playing Survive the Wild everyone, it's a great
>>> game,
>>> and it's just such a pitty people like him are left to get away with
>>> verble
>>>
>>> bullying and emotional blackmail.  I'm not saying don't play, I only 
>>> want
>>> people to feel safe playing and to know what I've had to go through
>>> and to
>>> avoid this guy at all costs.
>>>
>>> I shall be posting this to audiogames.net with the permission of the
>>> admins
>>>
>>> there.  I thank you all for reading, and can only hope action will be
>>> taken
>>>
>>> at some stage to prove that I'm speaking nothing but the truth.
>>>
>>> From Lori.
>>>
>>>
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Re: [Audyssey] A warning to all who play survive the wild.

[loriduncan]

Hi Dark, I'm pretty sure he's in south Africa, that's his accent anyway, and 
a few other people have told me the same thing.  Someone else suggested I 
try the victoms of crime website, so I'm going to give it a look just in 
case there's any information on dealing with stalkers.



From Lori.


-Original Message- 
From: dark

Sent: Tuesday, March 08, 2016 10:30 PM
To: Gamers Discussion list
Subject: Re: [Audyssey] A warning to all who play survive the wild.

Hi justin.

Yes, cyber stalking is I believe a crime in the Uk where Lori is, however
this guy is not in the Uk and there isn't any proof of where he is in the
world. lori is just trying to warn people off in order to both protect
others, and make the admins aware of what this guy is doing.

All the best,

Dark.
- Original Message - 
From: "Justin Jones" 

To: "Gamers Discussion list" 
Sent: Tuesday, March 08, 2016 9:11 PM
Subject: Re: [Audyssey] A warning to all who play survive the wild.



If this guy is based out of the United States, you might want to
report him. I believe that cyber-stalking is a crime (I am not sure if
it is state or federal, though).

I am not conversant with laws in either countries, but I assume that
they have similar statutes.

In any instance, insure that you document everything.

Best of luck

On 3/8/16, loriduncan  wrote:

Hi everyone, it is my painful duty to have to inform you all that for the
last month, I have been stalked both on Skype and on Survive the wild by 
one


of the admins of said game, Walter Van Wyck.  This all started when I was
trying to get a friend away from him, and led to him stalking us both and
being very abusive towards us, but then denying it to the other, for 
example


he'd tell my friend she was worth nothing, then tell me he hadn't said 
any

such thing, even though I have the evidence my friend sent me to prove he
was lying.  He's also been very abusive when my friend and I did work 
with

him on his podcasts at blindaccess.org, not in the actual podcasts
themselves, but in terms of if my friend and I dared to suggest anything 
to


improve the podcasts, we were basically told to do things his way.  He 
also


slated 2 of the people who gave me the inspiration to podcast, saying he 
was


far better, which I thought was a totally wrong, and b childish.

Now the reason I'm telling the community all this, is because last night 
my


friend down in England opened an account in stw and began playing, but 
then


out of the blue, she had Walter grilling her, thinking she was me with
another account.  She skyped me and asked if I knew walter and told me 
he'd


been very abusive towards her, so now my main concerne is that other 
girls

might receive the same treatement as myself and my friends have done at
Walter's hands.

Finally, I'd like to tell you that I did report this to Sam, the 
developer
of Survive the Wild, but other than saying he'd talk to Walter, Sam has 
done


nothing, so Walter is still free to abuse his admin position by 
threatening


me and my friends with checking up on us.

Just be careful when playing Survive the Wild everyone, it's a great 
game,
and it's just such a pitty people like him are left to get away with 
verble


bullying and emotional blackmail.  I'm not saying don't play, I only want
people to feel safe playing and to know what I've had to go through and 
to

avoid this guy at all costs.

I shall be posting this to audiogames.net with the permission of the 
admins


there.  I thank you all for reading, and can only hope action will be 
taken


at some stage to prove that I'm speaking nothing but the truth.

From Lori.


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Re: [Audyssey] A warning to all who play survive the wild.

[Paul Lemm]

Hi Lorie,


It's a shame, as by having these kind of people as admins ,  all it does is
put people off the game , which means the developer loses out in the long
run. Hopefully he sorts it though  and gets these people removed. I do want
to try the game someone as it  does sound  good from the bits I've heard

Paul


-Original Message-
From: Gamers [mailto:gamers-boun...@audyssey.org] On Behalf Of loriduncan
Sent: Tuesday, March 8, 2016 9:51 PM
To: Gamers Discussion list
Subject: Re: [Audyssey] A warning to all who play survive the wild.

it is a really good game Paul, but it is run by younger people who shouldn't

be making people admins just because they are friends, and not listening 
when evidence against them is braught forward.  That isn't an adult way to 
behave at all.

>From Lori.

-Original Message- 
From: Paul Lemm
Sent: Tuesday, March 08, 2016 9:44 PM
To: 'Gamers Discussion list'
Subject: Re: [Audyssey] A warning to all who play survive the wild.

Hi,

That's   terrible, can't stand people who bully around  others and get
abusive , there's just no need for it hope you're doing  ok and this guy
gets taken off or banned. Actually haven't played this, but listened to a
pod cast on it the other day and it sounded really good , so it's  a shame
people like this ruin it for others.

Paul



-Original Message-
From: Gamers [mailto:gamers-boun...@audyssey.org] On Behalf Of loriduncan
Sent: Tuesday, March 8, 2016 8:59 PM
To: gamers@audyssey.org
Subject: [Audyssey] A warning to all who play survive the wild.

Hi everyone, it is my painful duty to have to inform you all that for the
last month, I have been stalked both on Skype and on Survive the wild by one

of the admins of said game, Walter Van Wyck.  This all started when I was
trying to get a friend away from him, and led to him stalking us both and
being very abusive towards us, but then denying it to the other, for example

he'd tell my friend she was worth nothing, then tell me he hadn't said any
such thing, even though I have the evidence my friend sent me to prove he
was lying.  He's also been very abusive when my friend and I did work with
him on his podcasts at blindaccess.org, not in the actual podcasts
themselves, but in terms of if my friend and I dared to suggest anything to
improve the podcasts, we were basically told to do things his way.  He also
slated 2 of the people who gave me the inspiration to podcast, saying he was

far better, which I thought was a totally wrong, and b childish.

Now the reason I'm telling the community all this, is because last night my
friend down in England opened an account in stw and began playing, but then
out of the blue, she had Walter grilling her, thinking she was me with
another account.  She skyped me and asked if I knew walter and told me he'd
been very abusive towards her, so now my main concerne is that other girls
might receive the same treatement as myself and my friends have done at
Walter's hands.

Finally, I'd like to tell you that I did report this to Sam, the developer
of Survive the Wild, but other than saying he'd talk to Walter, Sam has done

nothing, so Walter is still free to abuse his admin position by threatening
me and my friends with checking up on us.

Just be careful when playing Survive the Wild everyone, it's a great game,
and it's just such a pitty people like him are left to get away with verble
bullying and emotional blackmail.  I'm not saying don't play, I only want
people to feel safe playing and to know what I've had to go through and to
avoid this guy at all costs.

I shall be posting this to audiogames.net with the permission of the admins
there.  I thank you all for reading, and can only hope action will be taken
at some stage to prove that I'm speaking nothing but the truth.

>From Lori.


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Re: [Audyssey] A warning to all who play survive the wild.

[Justin Jones]

It is too bad, then, that the guy isn't here in the U.S. He would get
stomped on in short order by law enforcement.

The only other recourse that I can think of is to post this on various
social media sites. Not necessarily specifics, rather that the admins
for the game do not take corrective actions when dealing with
stalkers. The bad publicity could shut the game down if enough people
got involved.

My girlfriend did something similar for another game when it became
clear to her that the administrators were not going to take stalking
seriously. The situation was resolved in fairly short order after she
tweated about it.

Just a thought.

People who do this sort of thing, stalk and bully, deserve no mercy;
none what so ever.

On 3/8/16, jacob Kruger  wrote:
> Sorry to say this, but, here in SA, it wouldn't really do much to try
> report him to anyone other than his direct seniors - if they care, and
> plan to do anything about it.
>
> Stay well
>
> Jacob Kruger
> Blind Biker
> Skype: BlindZA
> "Roger Wilco wants to welcome you...to the space janitor's closet..."
>
> On 2016-03-08 11:49 PM, loriduncan wrote:
>> Hi I have been documenting as much as I can, and the guy is based in
>> South Africa, so I don't know how reporting him to the police would work
>> as he's in another country.
>>> From Lori.
>>
>> -Original Message- From: Justin Jones
>> Sent: Tuesday, March 08, 2016 9:11 PM
>> To: Gamers Discussion list
>> Subject: Re: [Audyssey] A warning to all who play survive the wild.
>>
>> If this guy is based out of the United States, you might want to
>> report him. I believe that cyber-stalking is a crime (I am not sure if
>> it is state or federal, though).
>>
>> I am not conversant with laws in either countries, but I assume that
>> they have similar statutes.
>>
>> In any instance, insure that you document everything.
>>
>> Best of luck
>>
>> On 3/8/16, loriduncan  wrote:
>>> Hi everyone, it is my painful duty to have to inform you all that for
>>> the
>>> last month, I have been stalked both on Skype and on Survive the wild
>>> by one
>>>
>>> of the admins of said game, Walter Van Wyck.  This all started when I
>>> was
>>> trying to get a friend away from him, and led to him stalking us both
>>> and
>>> being very abusive towards us, but then denying it to the other, for
>>> example
>>>
>>> he'd tell my friend she was worth nothing, then tell me he hadn't said
>>> any
>>> such thing, even though I have the evidence my friend sent me to prove
>>> he
>>> was lying.  He's also been very abusive when my friend and I did work
>>> with
>>> him on his podcasts at blindaccess.org, not in the actual podcasts
>>> themselves, but in terms of if my friend and I dared to suggest
>>> anything to
>>>
>>> improve the podcasts, we were basically told to do things his way.  He
>>> also
>>>
>>> slated 2 of the people who gave me the inspiration to podcast, saying
>>> he was
>>>
>>> far better, which I thought was a totally wrong, and b childish.
>>>
>>> Now the reason I'm telling the community all this, is because last
>>> night my
>>>
>>> friend down in England opened an account in stw and began playing, but
>>> then
>>>
>>> out of the blue, she had Walter grilling her, thinking she was me with
>>> another account.  She skyped me and asked if I knew walter and told me
>>> he'd
>>>
>>> been very abusive towards her, so now my main concerne is that other
>>> girls
>>> might receive the same treatement as myself and my friends have done at
>>> Walter's hands.
>>>
>>> Finally, I'd like to tell you that I did report this to Sam, the
>>> developer
>>> of Survive the Wild, but other than saying he'd talk to Walter, Sam
>>> has done
>>>
>>> nothing, so Walter is still free to abuse his admin position by
>>> threatening
>>>
>>> me and my friends with checking up on us.
>>>
>>> Just be careful when playing Survive the Wild everyone, it's a great
>>> game,
>>> and it's just such a pitty people like him are left to get away with
>>> verble
>>>
>>> bullying and emotional blackmail.  I'm not saying don't play, I only
>>> want
>>> people to feel safe playing and to know what I've had to go through
>>> and to
>>> avoid this guy at all costs.
>>>
>>> I shall be posting this to audiogames.net with the permission of the
>>> admins
>>>
>>> there.  I thank you all for reading, and can only hope action will be
>>> taken
>>>
>>> at some stage to prove that I'm speaking nothing but the truth.
>>>
>>> From Lori.
>>>
>>>
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Re: [Audyssey] A warning to all who play survive the wild.

[dark]

A shame Jacob.

At least however members of the community can do something as far as 
publicizing this goes and making sure the guy gets the treatment he deserves 
from the community.


All the best,

Dark.
- Original Message - 
From: "jacob Kruger" 

To: "Gamers Discussion list" 
Sent: Tuesday, March 08, 2016 10:07 PM
Subject: Re: [Audyssey] A warning to all who play survive the wild.


Sorry to say this, but, here in SA, it wouldn't really do much to try 
report him to anyone other than his direct seniors - if they care, and 
plan to do anything about it.


Stay well

Jacob Kruger
Blind Biker
Skype: BlindZA
"Roger Wilco wants to welcome you...to the space janitor's closet..."

On 2016-03-08 11:49 PM, loriduncan wrote:

Hi I have been documenting as much as I can, and the guy is based in
South Africa, so I don't know how reporting him to the police would work
as he's in another country.

From Lori.


-Original Message- From: Justin Jones
Sent: Tuesday, March 08, 2016 9:11 PM
To: Gamers Discussion list
Subject: Re: [Audyssey] A warning to all who play survive the wild.

If this guy is based out of the United States, you might want to
report him. I believe that cyber-stalking is a crime (I am not sure if
it is state or federal, though).

I am not conversant with laws in either countries, but I assume that
they have similar statutes.

In any instance, insure that you document everything.

Best of luck

On 3/8/16, loriduncan  wrote:
Hi everyone, it is my painful duty to have to inform you all that for 
the

last month, I have been stalked both on Skype and on Survive the wild
by one

of the admins of said game, Walter Van Wyck.  This all started when I 
was
trying to get a friend away from him, and led to him stalking us both 
and

being very abusive towards us, but then denying it to the other, for
example

he'd tell my friend she was worth nothing, then tell me he hadn't said
any
such thing, even though I have the evidence my friend sent me to prove 
he

was lying.  He's also been very abusive when my friend and I did work
with
him on his podcasts at blindaccess.org, not in the actual podcasts
themselves, but in terms of if my friend and I dared to suggest
anything to

improve the podcasts, we were basically told to do things his way.  He
also

slated 2 of the people who gave me the inspiration to podcast, saying
he was

far better, which I thought was a totally wrong, and b childish.

Now the reason I'm telling the community all this, is because last
night my

friend down in England opened an account in stw and began playing, but
then

out of the blue, she had Walter grilling her, thinking she was me with
another account.  She skyped me and asked if I knew walter and told me
he'd

been very abusive towards her, so now my main concerne is that other
girls
might receive the same treatement as myself and my friends have done at
Walter's hands.

Finally, I'd like to tell you that I did report this to Sam, the
developer
of Survive the Wild, but other than saying he'd talk to Walter, Sam
has done

nothing, so Walter is still free to abuse his admin position by
threatening

me and my friends with checking up on us.

Just be careful when playing Survive the Wild everyone, it's a great
game,
and it's just such a pitty people like him are left to get away with
verble

bullying and emotional blackmail.  I'm not saying don't play, I only 
want

people to feel safe playing and to know what I've had to go through
and to
avoid this guy at all costs.

I shall be posting this to audiogames.net with the permission of the
admins

there.  I thank you all for reading, and can only hope action will be
taken

at some stage to prove that I'm speaking nothing but the truth.

From Lori.


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Re: [Audyssey] A warning to all who play survive the wild.

[dark]

Hi justin.

Yes, cyber stalking is I believe a crime in the Uk where Lori is, however 
this guy is not in the Uk and there isn't any proof of where he is in the 
world. lori is just trying to warn people off in order to both protect 
others, and make the admins aware of what this guy is doing.


All the best,

Dark.
- Original Message - 
From: "Justin Jones" 

To: "Gamers Discussion list" 
Sent: Tuesday, March 08, 2016 9:11 PM
Subject: Re: [Audyssey] A warning to all who play survive the wild.



If this guy is based out of the United States, you might want to
report him. I believe that cyber-stalking is a crime (I am not sure if
it is state or federal, though).

I am not conversant with laws in either countries, but I assume that
they have similar statutes.

In any instance, insure that you document everything.

Best of luck

On 3/8/16, loriduncan  wrote:

Hi everyone, it is my painful duty to have to inform you all that for the
last month, I have been stalked both on Skype and on Survive the wild by 
one


of the admins of said game, Walter Van Wyck.  This all started when I was
trying to get a friend away from him, and led to him stalking us both and
being very abusive towards us, but then denying it to the other, for 
example


he'd tell my friend she was worth nothing, then tell me he hadn't said 
any

such thing, even though I have the evidence my friend sent me to prove he
was lying.  He's also been very abusive when my friend and I did work 
with

him on his podcasts at blindaccess.org, not in the actual podcasts
themselves, but in terms of if my friend and I dared to suggest anything 
to


improve the podcasts, we were basically told to do things his way.  He 
also


slated 2 of the people who gave me the inspiration to podcast, saying he 
was


far better, which I thought was a totally wrong, and b childish.

Now the reason I'm telling the community all this, is because last night 
my


friend down in England opened an account in stw and began playing, but 
then


out of the blue, she had Walter grilling her, thinking she was me with
another account.  She skyped me and asked if I knew walter and told me 
he'd


been very abusive towards her, so now my main concerne is that other 
girls

might receive the same treatement as myself and my friends have done at
Walter's hands.

Finally, I'd like to tell you that I did report this to Sam, the 
developer
of Survive the Wild, but other than saying he'd talk to Walter, Sam has 
done


nothing, so Walter is still free to abuse his admin position by 
threatening


me and my friends with checking up on us.

Just be careful when playing Survive the Wild everyone, it's a great 
game,
and it's just such a pitty people like him are left to get away with 
verble


bullying and emotional blackmail.  I'm not saying don't play, I only want
people to feel safe playing and to know what I've had to go through and 
to

avoid this guy at all costs.

I shall be posting this to audiogames.net with the permission of the 
admins


there.  I thank you all for reading, and can only hope action will be 
taken


at some stage to prove that I'm speaking nothing but the truth.

From Lori.


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Re: [Audyssey] A warning to all who play survive the wild.

[jacob Kruger]

Sorry to say this, but, here in SA, it wouldn't really do much to try 
report him to anyone other than his direct seniors - if they care, and 
plan to do anything about it.


Stay well

Jacob Kruger
Blind Biker
Skype: BlindZA
"Roger Wilco wants to welcome you...to the space janitor's closet..."

On 2016-03-08 11:49 PM, loriduncan wrote:

Hi I have been documenting as much as I can, and the guy is based in
South Africa, so I don't know how reporting him to the police would work
as he's in another country.

From Lori.


-Original Message- From: Justin Jones
Sent: Tuesday, March 08, 2016 9:11 PM
To: Gamers Discussion list
Subject: Re: [Audyssey] A warning to all who play survive the wild.

If this guy is based out of the United States, you might want to
report him. I believe that cyber-stalking is a crime (I am not sure if
it is state or federal, though).

I am not conversant with laws in either countries, but I assume that
they have similar statutes.

In any instance, insure that you document everything.

Best of luck

On 3/8/16, loriduncan  wrote:

Hi everyone, it is my painful duty to have to inform you all that for the
last month, I have been stalked both on Skype and on Survive the wild
by one

of the admins of said game, Walter Van Wyck.  This all started when I was
trying to get a friend away from him, and led to him stalking us both and
being very abusive towards us, but then denying it to the other, for
example

he'd tell my friend she was worth nothing, then tell me he hadn't said
any
such thing, even though I have the evidence my friend sent me to prove he
was lying.  He's also been very abusive when my friend and I did work
with
him on his podcasts at blindaccess.org, not in the actual podcasts
themselves, but in terms of if my friend and I dared to suggest
anything to

improve the podcasts, we were basically told to do things his way.  He
also

slated 2 of the people who gave me the inspiration to podcast, saying
he was

far better, which I thought was a totally wrong, and b childish.

Now the reason I'm telling the community all this, is because last
night my

friend down in England opened an account in stw and began playing, but
then

out of the blue, she had Walter grilling her, thinking she was me with
another account.  She skyped me and asked if I knew walter and told me
he'd

been very abusive towards her, so now my main concerne is that other
girls
might receive the same treatement as myself and my friends have done at
Walter's hands.

Finally, I'd like to tell you that I did report this to Sam, the
developer
of Survive the Wild, but other than saying he'd talk to Walter, Sam
has done

nothing, so Walter is still free to abuse his admin position by
threatening

me and my friends with checking up on us.

Just be careful when playing Survive the Wild everyone, it's a great
game,
and it's just such a pitty people like him are left to get away with
verble

bullying and emotional blackmail.  I'm not saying don't play, I only want
people to feel safe playing and to know what I've had to go through
and to
avoid this guy at all costs.

I shall be posting this to audiogames.net with the permission of the
admins

there.  I thank you all for reading, and can only hope action will be
taken

at some stage to prove that I'm speaking nothing but the truth.

From Lori.


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Re: [Audyssey] A warning to all who play survive the wild.

[loriduncan]

it is a really good game Paul, but it is run by younger people who shouldn't 
be making people admins just because they are friends, and not listening 
when evidence against them is braught forward.  That isn't an adult way to 
behave at all.



From Lori.


-Original Message- 
From: Paul Lemm

Sent: Tuesday, March 08, 2016 9:44 PM
To: 'Gamers Discussion list'
Subject: Re: [Audyssey] A warning to all who play survive the wild.

Hi,

That's   terrible, can't stand people who bully around  others and get
abusive , there's just no need for it hope you're doing  ok and this guy
gets taken off or banned. Actually haven't played this, but listened to a
pod cast on it the other day and it sounded really good , so it's  a shame
people like this ruin it for others.

Paul



-Original Message-
From: Gamers [mailto:gamers-boun...@audyssey.org] On Behalf Of loriduncan
Sent: Tuesday, March 8, 2016 8:59 PM
To: gamers@audyssey.org
Subject: [Audyssey] A warning to all who play survive the wild.

Hi everyone, it is my painful duty to have to inform you all that for the
last month, I have been stalked both on Skype and on Survive the wild by one

of the admins of said game, Walter Van Wyck.  This all started when I was
trying to get a friend away from him, and led to him stalking us both and
being very abusive towards us, but then denying it to the other, for example

he'd tell my friend she was worth nothing, then tell me he hadn't said any
such thing, even though I have the evidence my friend sent me to prove he
was lying.  He's also been very abusive when my friend and I did work with
him on his podcasts at blindaccess.org, not in the actual podcasts
themselves, but in terms of if my friend and I dared to suggest anything to
improve the podcasts, we were basically told to do things his way.  He also
slated 2 of the people who gave me the inspiration to podcast, saying he was

far better, which I thought was a totally wrong, and b childish.

Now the reason I'm telling the community all this, is because last night my
friend down in England opened an account in stw and began playing, but then
out of the blue, she had Walter grilling her, thinking she was me with
another account.  She skyped me and asked if I knew walter and told me he'd
been very abusive towards her, so now my main concerne is that other girls
might receive the same treatement as myself and my friends have done at
Walter's hands.

Finally, I'd like to tell you that I did report this to Sam, the developer
of Survive the Wild, but other than saying he'd talk to Walter, Sam has done

nothing, so Walter is still free to abuse his admin position by threatening
me and my friends with checking up on us.

Just be careful when playing Survive the Wild everyone, it's a great game,
and it's just such a pitty people like him are left to get away with verble
bullying and emotional blackmail.  I'm not saying don't play, I only want
people to feel safe playing and to know what I've had to go through and to
avoid this guy at all costs.

I shall be posting this to audiogames.net with the permission of the admins
there.  I thank you all for reading, and can only hope action will be taken
at some stage to prove that I'm speaking nothing but the truth.


From Lori.



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Re: [Audyssey] A warning to all who play survive the wild.

[loriduncan]

Hi I have been documenting as much as I can, and the guy is based in South 
Africa, so I don't know how reporting him to the police would work as he's 
in another country.

From Lori.


-Original Message- 
From: Justin Jones

Sent: Tuesday, March 08, 2016 9:11 PM
To: Gamers Discussion list
Subject: Re: [Audyssey] A warning to all who play survive the wild.

If this guy is based out of the United States, you might want to
report him. I believe that cyber-stalking is a crime (I am not sure if
it is state or federal, though).

I am not conversant with laws in either countries, but I assume that
they have similar statutes.

In any instance, insure that you document everything.

Best of luck

On 3/8/16, loriduncan  wrote:

Hi everyone, it is my painful duty to have to inform you all that for the
last month, I have been stalked both on Skype and on Survive the wild by 
one


of the admins of said game, Walter Van Wyck.  This all started when I was
trying to get a friend away from him, and led to him stalking us both and
being very abusive towards us, but then denying it to the other, for 
example


he'd tell my friend she was worth nothing, then tell me he hadn't said any
such thing, even though I have the evidence my friend sent me to prove he
was lying.  He's also been very abusive when my friend and I did work with
him on his podcasts at blindaccess.org, not in the actual podcasts
themselves, but in terms of if my friend and I dared to suggest anything 
to


improve the podcasts, we were basically told to do things his way.  He 
also


slated 2 of the people who gave me the inspiration to podcast, saying he 
was


far better, which I thought was a totally wrong, and b childish.

Now the reason I'm telling the community all this, is because last night 
my


friend down in England opened an account in stw and began playing, but 
then


out of the blue, she had Walter grilling her, thinking she was me with
another account.  She skyped me and asked if I knew walter and told me 
he'd


been very abusive towards her, so now my main concerne is that other girls
might receive the same treatement as myself and my friends have done at
Walter's hands.

Finally, I'd like to tell you that I did report this to Sam, the developer
of Survive the Wild, but other than saying he'd talk to Walter, Sam has 
done


nothing, so Walter is still free to abuse his admin position by 
threatening


me and my friends with checking up on us.

Just be careful when playing Survive the Wild everyone, it's a great game,
and it's just such a pitty people like him are left to get away with 
verble


bullying and emotional blackmail.  I'm not saying don't play, I only want
people to feel safe playing and to know what I've had to go through and to
avoid this guy at all costs.

I shall be posting this to audiogames.net with the permission of the 
admins


there.  I thank you all for reading, and can only hope action will be 
taken


at some stage to prove that I'm speaking nothing but the truth.

From Lori.


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Re: [Audyssey] A warning to all who play survive the wild.

[Paul Lemm]

Hi,

That's   terrible, can't stand people who bully around  others and get
abusive , there's just no need for it hope you're doing  ok and this guy
gets taken off or banned. Actually haven't played this, but listened to a
pod cast on it the other day and it sounded really good , so it's  a shame
people like this ruin it for others.

Paul 



-Original Message-
From: Gamers [mailto:gamers-boun...@audyssey.org] On Behalf Of loriduncan
Sent: Tuesday, March 8, 2016 8:59 PM
To: gamers@audyssey.org
Subject: [Audyssey] A warning to all who play survive the wild.

Hi everyone, it is my painful duty to have to inform you all that for the 
last month, I have been stalked both on Skype and on Survive the wild by one

of the admins of said game, Walter Van Wyck.  This all started when I was 
trying to get a friend away from him, and led to him stalking us both and 
being very abusive towards us, but then denying it to the other, for example

he'd tell my friend she was worth nothing, then tell me he hadn't said any 
such thing, even though I have the evidence my friend sent me to prove he 
was lying.  He's also been very abusive when my friend and I did work with 
him on his podcasts at blindaccess.org, not in the actual podcasts 
themselves, but in terms of if my friend and I dared to suggest anything to 
improve the podcasts, we were basically told to do things his way.  He also 
slated 2 of the people who gave me the inspiration to podcast, saying he was

far better, which I thought was a totally wrong, and b childish.

Now the reason I'm telling the community all this, is because last night my 
friend down in England opened an account in stw and began playing, but then 
out of the blue, she had Walter grilling her, thinking she was me with 
another account.  She skyped me and asked if I knew walter and told me he'd 
been very abusive towards her, so now my main concerne is that other girls 
might receive the same treatement as myself and my friends have done at 
Walter's hands.

Finally, I'd like to tell you that I did report this to Sam, the developer 
of Survive the Wild, but other than saying he'd talk to Walter, Sam has done

nothing, so Walter is still free to abuse his admin position by threatening 
me and my friends with checking up on us.

Just be careful when playing Survive the Wild everyone, it's a great game, 
and it's just such a pitty people like him are left to get away with verble 
bullying and emotional blackmail.  I'm not saying don't play, I only want 
people to feel safe playing and to know what I've had to go through and to 
avoid this guy at all costs.

I shall be posting this to audiogames.net with the permission of the admins 
there.  I thank you all for reading, and can only hope action will be taken 
at some stage to prove that I'm speaking nothing but the truth.

>From Lori.


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Re: [Audyssey] A warning to all who play survive the wild.

[Justin Jones]

If this guy is based out of the United States, you might want to
report him. I believe that cyber-stalking is a crime (I am not sure if
it is state or federal, though).

I am not conversant with laws in either countries, but I assume that
they have similar statutes.

In any instance, insure that you document everything.

Best of luck

On 3/8/16, loriduncan  wrote:
> Hi everyone, it is my painful duty to have to inform you all that for the
> last month, I have been stalked both on Skype and on Survive the wild by one
>
> of the admins of said game, Walter Van Wyck.  This all started when I was
> trying to get a friend away from him, and led to him stalking us both and
> being very abusive towards us, but then denying it to the other, for example
>
> he'd tell my friend she was worth nothing, then tell me he hadn't said any
> such thing, even though I have the evidence my friend sent me to prove he
> was lying.  He's also been very abusive when my friend and I did work with
> him on his podcasts at blindaccess.org, not in the actual podcasts
> themselves, but in terms of if my friend and I dared to suggest anything to
>
> improve the podcasts, we were basically told to do things his way.  He also
>
> slated 2 of the people who gave me the inspiration to podcast, saying he was
>
> far better, which I thought was a totally wrong, and b childish.
>
> Now the reason I'm telling the community all this, is because last night my
>
> friend down in England opened an account in stw and began playing, but then
>
> out of the blue, she had Walter grilling her, thinking she was me with
> another account.  She skyped me and asked if I knew walter and told me he'd
>
> been very abusive towards her, so now my main concerne is that other girls
> might receive the same treatement as myself and my friends have done at
> Walter's hands.
>
> Finally, I'd like to tell you that I did report this to Sam, the developer
> of Survive the Wild, but other than saying he'd talk to Walter, Sam has done
>
> nothing, so Walter is still free to abuse his admin position by threatening
>
> me and my friends with checking up on us.
>
> Just be careful when playing Survive the Wild everyone, it's a great game,
> and it's just such a pitty people like him are left to get away with verble
>
> bullying and emotional blackmail.  I'm not saying don't play, I only want
> people to feel safe playing and to know what I've had to go through and to
> avoid this guy at all costs.
>
> I shall be posting this to audiogames.net with the permission of the admins
>
> there.  I thank you all for reading, and can only hope action will be taken
>
> at some stage to prove that I'm speaking nothing but the truth.
>
> From Lori.
>
>
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[Audyssey] A warning to all who play survive the wild.

[loriduncan]

Hi everyone, it is my painful duty to have to inform you all that for the 
last month, I have been stalked both on Skype and on Survive the wild by one 
of the admins of said game, Walter Van Wyck.  This all started when I was 
trying to get a friend away from him, and led to him stalking us both and 
being very abusive towards us, but then denying it to the other, for example 
he'd tell my friend she was worth nothing, then tell me he hadn't said any 
such thing, even though I have the evidence my friend sent me to prove he 
was lying.  He's also been very abusive when my friend and I did work with 
him on his podcasts at blindaccess.org, not in the actual podcasts 
themselves, but in terms of if my friend and I dared to suggest anything to 
improve the podcasts, we were basically told to do things his way.  He also 
slated 2 of the people who gave me the inspiration to podcast, saying he was 
far better, which I thought was a totally wrong, and b childish.


Now the reason I'm telling the community all this, is because last night my 
friend down in England opened an account in stw and began playing, but then 
out of the blue, she had Walter grilling her, thinking she was me with 
another account.  She skyped me and asked if I knew walter and told me he'd 
been very abusive towards her, so now my main concerne is that other girls 
might receive the same treatement as myself and my friends have done at 
Walter's hands.


Finally, I'd like to tell you that I did report this to Sam, the developer 
of Survive the Wild, but other than saying he'd talk to Walter, Sam has done 
nothing, so Walter is still free to abuse his admin position by threatening 
me and my friends with checking up on us.


Just be careful when playing Survive the Wild everyone, it's a great game, 
and it's just such a pitty people like him are left to get away with verble 
bullying and emotional blackmail.  I'm not saying don't play, I only want 
people to feel safe playing and to know what I've had to go through and to 
avoid this guy at all costs.


I shall be posting this to audiogames.net with the permission of the admins 
there.  I thank you all for reading, and can only hope action will be taken 
at some stage to prove that I'm speaking nothing but the truth.



From Lori.



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Re: [Audyssey] Getting into programming

[jacob Kruger]

http://www.empowermentzone.com/edsetup.exe

And:
http://empowermentzone.com/EdSharp.htm

And, yes, I use it for both python and PHP/javascript web-dev, with both 
jaws and NVDA.


Stay well
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Blind Biker
Skype: BlindZA
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On 2016-03-08 5:00 PM, Justin Jones wrote:

I have never heard of it. Details, please.

On 3/8/16, Devin Prater  wrote:

EdSharp, the text-editor for programmers, should work fine with Jaws.

On Mar 8, 2016, at 8:53 AM, Justin Jones  wrote:

I guess the final consideration for me is which programming language
plays the nicest with JAWS? As a corollary to that consideration, how
much overhead is required to make the development environment play
nicely?

On 3/8/16, Devin Prater  wrote:

I’m not surprised. Just use a mainstream language, that way you’ll get
all
the support you need, because coding can be done anywhere, and is plain
text.

On Mar 8, 2016, at 7:19 AM, Justin Jones  wrote:

I cannot get Quorrum to work. I reinstalled my Java nonsense and
played around with a couple of other things, but it will not play
nicely with JAWS. It is supposed to, but it does not.



On 3/8/16, Devin Prater  wrote:

My programming class in school was on a languages called Quorum. It was
made
specifically for blind people, but the IDE it uses is some mainstream
one
with accessibility features slapped uncleanly on top of it, so yeah,
not
all
that nice.

On Mar 8, 2016, at 5:35 AM, Justin Jones 
wrote:

I remember Pascal... That was a long time ago, though, as I took a
programming class in high school and that was the language that we
started with.

I'll go take a look at Powerbasic's web site before I make up my mind,
vis-à-vis which language I will try and learn.

On 3/7/16, Travis Siegel  wrote:

There's a reason powerbasic has the word power in it's name.  If you
want
to know everything it can do, go read their web page, they have a
complete
feature set, and you can even download the manuals if you like, and
read
them in full before ever purchasing the product.  I'm not much of a
windows user anymore, and haven't been for more than 10 years, but
when
I
do need windows work done, I almost always yank out my powerbasic
compiler
to do the work, because it's so simple to do it.  You can create
internet
servers with something like 3 or 4 lines of code (they have samples
that
come with the compiler) and you can build res files that include all
your
graphics and sounds, that get distributed with your programs, and
even
compile those res files into the executable, so there's no need to
distribute extra files just to make your game work.  One single
executable, with all the sounds, graphics, icons, and anything else
you
need for your program to work, and nobody needs to download anything
except one single executable file.  I know you can do that with other
languages too, but it's such a difficult process, folks rarely bother
to
do this,  with powerbasic, it's as simple as creating a text file
with
the
filenames, and running the reseditor on it.  That's all there is to
it.
For an example of this, go check out the battleship game I released
back
in 2002, (I think it's still at
http://www.nfbcal.org/tsiegel/battle10.exe) and see what I mean.
That
has
a single executable file, and all sounds are included, and the entire
game
is still only a couple hundred K in size.  I recently wrote a memory
game
for the raspberry pi, and with all the sounds, it's a hundred
megabytes
or
morein size, and each one of the sound files needs to be present for
the
game to work, because res files don't exist on linux. :)
The plus to that is that you can replace the sounds with ones of your
choice, so that does help, but still, for ease of use, for windows
programming, I've never found anything easier.
On OSX (at least early versions of 10.4 and 10.5) Java was my
language
of
choice, because it could build guis with almost no effort, and for my
raspberry pi, I use either C or pascal, (depending on what I'm
doing),
but
on windows, I keep going back to powerbasic, because it's so darned
easy.
:)



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Re: [Audyssey] Getting into programming

[Justin Jones]

I have never heard of it. Details, please.

On 3/8/16, Devin Prater  wrote:
> EdSharp, the text-editor for programmers, should work fine with Jaws.
>> On Mar 8, 2016, at 8:53 AM, Justin Jones  wrote:
>>
>> I guess the final consideration for me is which programming language
>> plays the nicest with JAWS? As a corollary to that consideration, how
>> much overhead is required to make the development environment play
>> nicely?
>>
>> On 3/8/16, Devin Prater  wrote:
>>> I’m not surprised. Just use a mainstream language, that way you’ll get
>>> all
>>> the support you need, because coding can be done anywhere, and is plain
>>> text.
 On Mar 8, 2016, at 7:19 AM, Justin Jones  wrote:

 I cannot get Quorrum to work. I reinstalled my Java nonsense and
 played around with a couple of other things, but it will not play
 nicely with JAWS. It is supposed to, but it does not.



 On 3/8/16, Devin Prater  wrote:
> My programming class in school was on a languages called Quorum. It was
> made
> specifically for blind people, but the IDE it uses is some mainstream
> one
> with accessibility features slapped uncleanly on top of it, so yeah,
> not
> all
> that nice.
>> On Mar 8, 2016, at 5:35 AM, Justin Jones 
>> wrote:
>>
>> I remember Pascal... That was a long time ago, though, as I took a
>> programming class in high school and that was the language that we
>> started with.
>>
>> I'll go take a look at Powerbasic's web site before I make up my mind,
>> vis-à-vis which language I will try and learn.
>>
>> On 3/7/16, Travis Siegel  wrote:
>>> There's a reason powerbasic has the word power in it's name.  If you
>>> want
>>> to know everything it can do, go read their web page, they have a
>>> complete
>>> feature set, and you can even download the manuals if you like, and
>>> read
>>> them in full before ever purchasing the product.  I'm not much of a
>>> windows user anymore, and haven't been for more than 10 years, but
>>> when
>>> I
>>> do need windows work done, I almost always yank out my powerbasic
>>> compiler
>>> to do the work, because it's so simple to do it.  You can create
>>> internet
>>> servers with something like 3 or 4 lines of code (they have samples
>>> that
>>> come with the compiler) and you can build res files that include all
>>> your
>>> graphics and sounds, that get distributed with your programs, and
>>> even
>>> compile those res files into the executable, so there's no need to
>>> distribute extra files just to make your game work.  One single
>>> executable, with all the sounds, graphics, icons, and anything else
>>> you
>>> need for your program to work, and nobody needs to download anything
>>> except one single executable file.  I know you can do that with other
>>> languages too, but it's such a difficult process, folks rarely bother
>>> to
>>> do this,  with powerbasic, it's as simple as creating a text file
>>> with
>>> the
>>> filenames, and running the reseditor on it.  That's all there is to
>>> it.
>>> For an example of this, go check out the battleship game I released
>>> back
>>> in 2002, (I think it's still at
>>> http://www.nfbcal.org/tsiegel/battle10.exe) and see what I mean.
>>> That
>>> has
>>> a single executable file, and all sounds are included, and the entire
>>> game
>>> is still only a couple hundred K in size.  I recently wrote a memory
>>> game
>>> for the raspberry pi, and with all the sounds, it's a hundred
>>> megabytes
>>> or
>>> morein size, and each one of the sound files needs to be present for
>>> the
>>> game to work, because res files don't exist on linux. :)
>>> The plus to that is that you can replace the sounds with ones of your
>>> choice, so that does help, but still, for ease of use, for windows
>>> programming, I've never found anything easier.
>>> On OSX (at least early versions of 10.4 and 10.5) Java was my
>>> language
>>> of
>>> choice, because it could build guis with almost no effort, and for my
>>> raspberry pi, I use either C or pascal, (depending on what I'm
>>> doing),
>>> but
>>> on windows, I keep going back to powerbasic, because it's so darned
>>> easy.
>>> :)
>>>
>>>
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Re: [Audyssey] Getting into programming

[Devin Prater]

It is a free text editor that works directly with screen readers.

Sent from my iPhone

> On Mar 8, 2016, at 9:00 AM, Justin Jones  wrote:
> 
> I have never heard of it. Details, please.
> 
>> On 3/8/16, Devin Prater  wrote:
>> EdSharp, the text-editor for programmers, should work fine with Jaws.
>>> On Mar 8, 2016, at 8:53 AM, Justin Jones  wrote:
>>> 
>>> I guess the final consideration for me is which programming language
>>> plays the nicest with JAWS? As a corollary to that consideration, how
>>> much overhead is required to make the development environment play
>>> nicely?
>>> 
 On 3/8/16, Devin Prater  wrote:
 I’m not surprised. Just use a mainstream language, that way you’ll get
 all
 the support you need, because coding can be done anywhere, and is plain
 text.
> On Mar 8, 2016, at 7:19 AM, Justin Jones  wrote:
> 
> I cannot get Quorrum to work. I reinstalled my Java nonsense and
> played around with a couple of other things, but it will not play
> nicely with JAWS. It is supposed to, but it does not.
> 
> 
> 
>> On 3/8/16, Devin Prater  wrote:
>> My programming class in school was on a languages called Quorum. It was
>> made
>> specifically for blind people, but the IDE it uses is some mainstream
>> one
>> with accessibility features slapped uncleanly on top of it, so yeah,
>> not
>> all
>> that nice.
>>> On Mar 8, 2016, at 5:35 AM, Justin Jones 
>>> wrote:
>>> 
>>> I remember Pascal... That was a long time ago, though, as I took a
>>> programming class in high school and that was the language that we
>>> started with.
>>> 
>>> I'll go take a look at Powerbasic's web site before I make up my mind,
>>> vis-à-vis which language I will try and learn.
>>> 
 On 3/7/16, Travis Siegel  wrote:
 There's a reason powerbasic has the word power in it's name.  If you
 want
 to know everything it can do, go read their web page, they have a
 complete
 feature set, and you can even download the manuals if you like, and
 read
 them in full before ever purchasing the product.  I'm not much of a
 windows user anymore, and haven't been for more than 10 years, but
 when
 I
 do need windows work done, I almost always yank out my powerbasic
 compiler
 to do the work, because it's so simple to do it.  You can create
 internet
 servers with something like 3 or 4 lines of code (they have samples
 that
 come with the compiler) and you can build res files that include all
 your
 graphics and sounds, that get distributed with your programs, and
 even
 compile those res files into the executable, so there's no need to
 distribute extra files just to make your game work.  One single
 executable, with all the sounds, graphics, icons, and anything else
 you
 need for your program to work, and nobody needs to download anything
 except one single executable file.  I know you can do that with other
 languages too, but it's such a difficult process, folks rarely bother
 to
 do this,  with powerbasic, it's as simple as creating a text file
 with
 the
 filenames, and running the reseditor on it.  That's all there is to
 it.
 For an example of this, go check out the battleship game I released
 back
 in 2002, (I think it's still at
 http://www.nfbcal.org/tsiegel/battle10.exe) and see what I mean.
 That
 has
 a single executable file, and all sounds are included, and the entire
 game
 is still only a couple hundred K in size.  I recently wrote a memory
 game
 for the raspberry pi, and with all the sounds, it's a hundred
 megabytes
 or
 morein size, and each one of the sound files needs to be present for
 the
 game to work, because res files don't exist on linux. :)
 The plus to that is that you can replace the sounds with ones of your
 choice, so that does help, but still, for ease of use, for windows
 programming, I've never found anything easier.
 On OSX (at least early versions of 10.4 and 10.5) Java was my
 language
 of
 choice, because it could build guis with almost no effort, and for my
 raspberry pi, I use either C or pascal, (depending on what I'm
 doing),
 but
 on windows, I keep going back to powerbasic, because it's so darned
 easy.
 :)
 
 
 
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Re: [Audyssey] Getting into programming

[Devin Prater]

EdSharp, the text-editor for programmers, should work fine with Jaws.
> On Mar 8, 2016, at 8:53 AM, Justin Jones  wrote:
> 
> I guess the final consideration for me is which programming language
> plays the nicest with JAWS? As a corollary to that consideration, how
> much overhead is required to make the development environment play
> nicely?
> 
> On 3/8/16, Devin Prater  wrote:
>> I’m not surprised. Just use a mainstream language, that way you’ll get all
>> the support you need, because coding can be done anywhere, and is plain
>> text.
>>> On Mar 8, 2016, at 7:19 AM, Justin Jones  wrote:
>>> 
>>> I cannot get Quorrum to work. I reinstalled my Java nonsense and
>>> played around with a couple of other things, but it will not play
>>> nicely with JAWS. It is supposed to, but it does not.
>>> 
>>> 
>>> 
>>> On 3/8/16, Devin Prater  wrote:
 My programming class in school was on a languages called Quorum. It was
 made
 specifically for blind people, but the IDE it uses is some mainstream one
 with accessibility features slapped uncleanly on top of it, so yeah, not
 all
 that nice.
> On Mar 8, 2016, at 5:35 AM, Justin Jones  wrote:
> 
> I remember Pascal... That was a long time ago, though, as I took a
> programming class in high school and that was the language that we
> started with.
> 
> I'll go take a look at Powerbasic's web site before I make up my mind,
> vis-à-vis which language I will try and learn.
> 
> On 3/7/16, Travis Siegel  wrote:
>> There's a reason powerbasic has the word power in it's name.  If you
>> want
>> to know everything it can do, go read their web page, they have a
>> complete
>> feature set, and you can even download the manuals if you like, and
>> read
>> them in full before ever purchasing the product.  I'm not much of a
>> windows user anymore, and haven't been for more than 10 years, but when
>> I
>> do need windows work done, I almost always yank out my powerbasic
>> compiler
>> to do the work, because it's so simple to do it.  You can create
>> internet
>> servers with something like 3 or 4 lines of code (they have samples
>> that
>> come with the compiler) and you can build res files that include all
>> your
>> graphics and sounds, that get distributed with your programs, and even
>> compile those res files into the executable, so there's no need to
>> distribute extra files just to make your game work.  One single
>> executable, with all the sounds, graphics, icons, and anything else you
>> need for your program to work, and nobody needs to download anything
>> except one single executable file.  I know you can do that with other
>> languages too, but it's such a difficult process, folks rarely bother
>> to
>> do this,  with powerbasic, it's as simple as creating a text file with
>> the
>> filenames, and running the reseditor on it.  That's all there is to it.
>> For an example of this, go check out the battleship game I released
>> back
>> in 2002, (I think it's still at
>> http://www.nfbcal.org/tsiegel/battle10.exe) and see what I mean.  That
>> has
>> a single executable file, and all sounds are included, and the entire
>> game
>> is still only a couple hundred K in size.  I recently wrote a memory
>> game
>> for the raspberry pi, and with all the sounds, it's a hundred megabytes
>> or
>> morein size, and each one of the sound files needs to be present for
>> the
>> game to work, because res files don't exist on linux. :)
>> The plus to that is that you can replace the sounds with ones of your
>> choice, so that does help, but still, for ease of use, for windows
>> programming, I've never found anything easier.
>> On OSX (at least early versions of 10.4 and 10.5) Java was my language
>> of
>> choice, because it could build guis with almost no effort, and for my
>> raspberry pi, I use either C or pascal, (depending on what I'm doing),
>> but
>> on windows, I keep going back to powerbasic, because it's so darned
>> easy.
>> :)
>> 
>> 
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Re: [Audyssey] Getting into programming

[Justin Jones]

I guess the final consideration for me is which programming language
plays the nicest with JAWS? As a corollary to that consideration, how
much overhead is required to make the development environment play
nicely?

On 3/8/16, Devin Prater  wrote:
> I’m not surprised. Just use a mainstream language, that way you’ll get all
> the support you need, because coding can be done anywhere, and is plain
> text.
>> On Mar 8, 2016, at 7:19 AM, Justin Jones  wrote:
>>
>> I cannot get Quorrum to work. I reinstalled my Java nonsense and
>> played around with a couple of other things, but it will not play
>> nicely with JAWS. It is supposed to, but it does not.
>>
>>
>>
>> On 3/8/16, Devin Prater  wrote:
>>> My programming class in school was on a languages called Quorum. It was
>>> made
>>> specifically for blind people, but the IDE it uses is some mainstream one
>>> with accessibility features slapped uncleanly on top of it, so yeah, not
>>> all
>>> that nice.
 On Mar 8, 2016, at 5:35 AM, Justin Jones  wrote:

 I remember Pascal... That was a long time ago, though, as I took a
 programming class in high school and that was the language that we
 started with.

 I'll go take a look at Powerbasic's web site before I make up my mind,
 vis-à-vis which language I will try and learn.

 On 3/7/16, Travis Siegel  wrote:
> There's a reason powerbasic has the word power in it's name.  If you
> want
> to know everything it can do, go read their web page, they have a
> complete
> feature set, and you can even download the manuals if you like, and
> read
> them in full before ever purchasing the product.  I'm not much of a
> windows user anymore, and haven't been for more than 10 years, but when
> I
> do need windows work done, I almost always yank out my powerbasic
> compiler
> to do the work, because it's so simple to do it.  You can create
> internet
> servers with something like 3 or 4 lines of code (they have samples
> that
> come with the compiler) and you can build res files that include all
> your
> graphics and sounds, that get distributed with your programs, and even
> compile those res files into the executable, so there's no need to
> distribute extra files just to make your game work.  One single
> executable, with all the sounds, graphics, icons, and anything else you
> need for your program to work, and nobody needs to download anything
> except one single executable file.  I know you can do that with other
> languages too, but it's such a difficult process, folks rarely bother
> to
> do this,  with powerbasic, it's as simple as creating a text file with
> the
> filenames, and running the reseditor on it.  That's all there is to it.
> For an example of this, go check out the battleship game I released
> back
> in 2002, (I think it's still at
> http://www.nfbcal.org/tsiegel/battle10.exe) and see what I mean.  That
> has
> a single executable file, and all sounds are included, and the entire
> game
> is still only a couple hundred K in size.  I recently wrote a memory
> game
> for the raspberry pi, and with all the sounds, it's a hundred megabytes
> or
> morein size, and each one of the sound files needs to be present for
> the
> game to work, because res files don't exist on linux. :)
> The plus to that is that you can replace the sounds with ones of your
> choice, so that does help, but still, for ease of use, for windows
> programming, I've never found anything easier.
> On OSX (at least early versions of 10.4 and 10.5) Java was my language
> of
> choice, because it could build guis with almost no effort, and for my
> raspberry pi, I use either C or pascal, (depending on what I'm doing),
> but
> on windows, I keep going back to powerbasic, because it's so darned
> easy.
> :)
>
>
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Re: [Audyssey] Getting into programming

[Devin Prater]

I’m not surprised. Just use a mainstream language, that way you’ll get all the 
support you need, because coding can be done anywhere, and is plain text.
> On Mar 8, 2016, at 7:19 AM, Justin Jones  wrote:
> 
> I cannot get Quorrum to work. I reinstalled my Java nonsense and
> played around with a couple of other things, but it will not play
> nicely with JAWS. It is supposed to, but it does not.
> 
> 
> 
> On 3/8/16, Devin Prater  wrote:
>> My programming class in school was on a languages called Quorum. It was made
>> specifically for blind people, but the IDE it uses is some mainstream one
>> with accessibility features slapped uncleanly on top of it, so yeah, not all
>> that nice.
>>> On Mar 8, 2016, at 5:35 AM, Justin Jones  wrote:
>>> 
>>> I remember Pascal... That was a long time ago, though, as I took a
>>> programming class in high school and that was the language that we
>>> started with.
>>> 
>>> I'll go take a look at Powerbasic's web site before I make up my mind,
>>> vis-à-vis which language I will try and learn.
>>> 
>>> On 3/7/16, Travis Siegel  wrote:
 There's a reason powerbasic has the word power in it's name.  If you want
 to know everything it can do, go read their web page, they have a
 complete
 feature set, and you can even download the manuals if you like, and read
 them in full before ever purchasing the product.  I'm not much of a
 windows user anymore, and haven't been for more than 10 years, but when I
 do need windows work done, I almost always yank out my powerbasic
 compiler
 to do the work, because it's so simple to do it.  You can create internet
 servers with something like 3 or 4 lines of code (they have samples that
 come with the compiler) and you can build res files that include all your
 graphics and sounds, that get distributed with your programs, and even
 compile those res files into the executable, so there's no need to
 distribute extra files just to make your game work.  One single
 executable, with all the sounds, graphics, icons, and anything else you
 need for your program to work, and nobody needs to download anything
 except one single executable file.  I know you can do that with other
 languages too, but it's such a difficult process, folks rarely bother to
 do this,  with powerbasic, it's as simple as creating a text file with
 the
 filenames, and running the reseditor on it.  That's all there is to it.
 For an example of this, go check out the battleship game I released back
 in 2002, (I think it's still at
 http://www.nfbcal.org/tsiegel/battle10.exe) and see what I mean.  That
 has
 a single executable file, and all sounds are included, and the entire
 game
 is still only a couple hundred K in size.  I recently wrote a memory game
 for the raspberry pi, and with all the sounds, it's a hundred megabytes
 or
 morein size, and each one of the sound files needs to be present for the
 game to work, because res files don't exist on linux. :)
 The plus to that is that you can replace the sounds with ones of your
 choice, so that does help, but still, for ease of use, for windows
 programming, I've never found anything easier.
 On OSX (at least early versions of 10.4 and 10.5) Java was my language of
 choice, because it could build guis with almost no effort, and for my
 raspberry pi, I use either C or pascal, (depending on what I'm doing),
 but
 on windows, I keep going back to powerbasic, because it's so darned easy.
 :)
 
 
 
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Re: [Audyssey] Getting into programming

[Justin Jones]

A question for Travis: does Power Basic play nicely with JAWS? If it
does not, that is a deal-breaker.

On 3/8/16, Justin Jones  wrote:
> I cannot get Quorrum to work. I reinstalled my Java nonsense and
> played around with a couple of other things, but it will not play
> nicely with JAWS. It is supposed to, but it does not.
>
>
>
> On 3/8/16, Devin Prater  wrote:
>> My programming class in school was on a languages called Quorum. It was
>> made
>> specifically for blind people, but the IDE it uses is some mainstream one
>> with accessibility features slapped uncleanly on top of it, so yeah, not
>> all
>> that nice.
>>> On Mar 8, 2016, at 5:35 AM, Justin Jones  wrote:
>>>
>>> I remember Pascal... That was a long time ago, though, as I took a
>>> programming class in high school and that was the language that we
>>> started with.
>>>
>>> I'll go take a look at Powerbasic's web site before I make up my mind,
>>> vis-à-vis which language I will try and learn.
>>>
>>> On 3/7/16, Travis Siegel  wrote:
 There's a reason powerbasic has the word power in it's name.  If you
 want
 to know everything it can do, go read their web page, they have a
 complete
 feature set, and you can even download the manuals if you like, and
 read
 them in full before ever purchasing the product.  I'm not much of a
 windows user anymore, and haven't been for more than 10 years, but when
 I
 do need windows work done, I almost always yank out my powerbasic
 compiler
 to do the work, because it's so simple to do it.  You can create
 internet
 servers with something like 3 or 4 lines of code (they have samples
 that
 come with the compiler) and you can build res files that include all
 your
 graphics and sounds, that get distributed with your programs, and even
 compile those res files into the executable, so there's no need to
 distribute extra files just to make your game work.  One single
 executable, with all the sounds, graphics, icons, and anything else you
 need for your program to work, and nobody needs to download anything
 except one single executable file.  I know you can do that with other
 languages too, but it's such a difficult process, folks rarely bother
 to
 do this,  with powerbasic, it's as simple as creating a text file with
 the
 filenames, and running the reseditor on it.  That's all there is to it.
 For an example of this, go check out the battleship game I released
 back
 in 2002, (I think it's still at
 http://www.nfbcal.org/tsiegel/battle10.exe) and see what I mean.  That
 has
 a single executable file, and all sounds are included, and the entire
 game
 is still only a couple hundred K in size.  I recently wrote a memory
 game
 for the raspberry pi, and with all the sounds, it's a hundred megabytes
 or
 morein size, and each one of the sound files needs to be present for
 the
 game to work, because res files don't exist on linux. :)
 The plus to that is that you can replace the sounds with ones of your
 choice, so that does help, but still, for ease of use, for windows
 programming, I've never found anything easier.
 On OSX (at least early versions of 10.4 and 10.5) Java was my language
 of
 choice, because it could build guis with almost no effort, and for my
 raspberry pi, I use either C or pascal, (depending on what I'm doing),
 but
 on windows, I keep going back to powerbasic, because it's so darned
 easy.
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Re: [Audyssey] Getting into programming

[Justin Jones]

I cannot get Quorrum to work. I reinstalled my Java nonsense and
played around with a couple of other things, but it will not play
nicely with JAWS. It is supposed to, but it does not.



On 3/8/16, Devin Prater  wrote:
> My programming class in school was on a languages called Quorum. It was made
> specifically for blind people, but the IDE it uses is some mainstream one
> with accessibility features slapped uncleanly on top of it, so yeah, not all
> that nice.
>> On Mar 8, 2016, at 5:35 AM, Justin Jones  wrote:
>>
>> I remember Pascal... That was a long time ago, though, as I took a
>> programming class in high school and that was the language that we
>> started with.
>>
>> I'll go take a look at Powerbasic's web site before I make up my mind,
>> vis-à-vis which language I will try and learn.
>>
>> On 3/7/16, Travis Siegel  wrote:
>>> There's a reason powerbasic has the word power in it's name.  If you want
>>> to know everything it can do, go read their web page, they have a
>>> complete
>>> feature set, and you can even download the manuals if you like, and read
>>> them in full before ever purchasing the product.  I'm not much of a
>>> windows user anymore, and haven't been for more than 10 years, but when I
>>> do need windows work done, I almost always yank out my powerbasic
>>> compiler
>>> to do the work, because it's so simple to do it.  You can create internet
>>> servers with something like 3 or 4 lines of code (they have samples that
>>> come with the compiler) and you can build res files that include all your
>>> graphics and sounds, that get distributed with your programs, and even
>>> compile those res files into the executable, so there's no need to
>>> distribute extra files just to make your game work.  One single
>>> executable, with all the sounds, graphics, icons, and anything else you
>>> need for your program to work, and nobody needs to download anything
>>> except one single executable file.  I know you can do that with other
>>> languages too, but it's such a difficult process, folks rarely bother to
>>> do this,  with powerbasic, it's as simple as creating a text file with
>>> the
>>> filenames, and running the reseditor on it.  That's all there is to it.
>>> For an example of this, go check out the battleship game I released back
>>> in 2002, (I think it's still at
>>> http://www.nfbcal.org/tsiegel/battle10.exe) and see what I mean.  That
>>> has
>>> a single executable file, and all sounds are included, and the entire
>>> game
>>> is still only a couple hundred K in size.  I recently wrote a memory game
>>> for the raspberry pi, and with all the sounds, it's a hundred megabytes
>>> or
>>> morein size, and each one of the sound files needs to be present for the
>>> game to work, because res files don't exist on linux. :)
>>> The plus to that is that you can replace the sounds with ones of your
>>> choice, so that does help, but still, for ease of use, for windows
>>> programming, I've never found anything easier.
>>> On OSX (at least early versions of 10.4 and 10.5) Java was my language of
>>> choice, because it could build guis with almost no effort, and for my
>>> raspberry pi, I use either C or pascal, (depending on what I'm doing),
>>> but
>>> on windows, I keep going back to powerbasic, because it's so darned easy.
>>> :)
>>>
>>>
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Re: [Audyssey] pcsgames.net down

[Carter Temm]

I'll also add, I think the do file transfer limit is like 60 days. One domain 
registrar that I use is
Http://hover.com

Sent from my iPhone

> On Mar 7, 2016, at 10:05 PM, Travis Siegel  wrote:
> 
> It doesn't matter who hosted the domain previously, you can register it with 
> anyone, and host it anywhere.  Even if you had domain transfer is prohibited 
> checed on the domain, the mere fact that they are gone should aliviate that 
> problem.  No need to get a new domain, just go to your new provider (whoever 
> they are) and register the pcsgames.net domain again, it will transfer the 
> domain, and all will be just fine.  Especially since you're listed as the 
> owner of the domain, you should have no trouble doing this.  If you have 
> trouble, contact me off list, and I'll help.  I've been hostind domains for 
> 20 years now, so can certainly guide you through the pitfalls here.
> 
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Re: [Audyssey] Getting into programming

[Devin Prater]

My programming class in school was on a languages called Quorum. It was made 
specifically for blind people, but the IDE it uses is some mainstream one with 
accessibility features slapped uncleanly on top of it, so yeah, not all that 
nice.
> On Mar 8, 2016, at 5:35 AM, Justin Jones  wrote:
> 
> I remember Pascal... That was a long time ago, though, as I took a
> programming class in high school and that was the language that we
> started with.
> 
> I'll go take a look at Powerbasic's web site before I make up my mind,
> vis-à-vis which language I will try and learn.
> 
> On 3/7/16, Travis Siegel  wrote:
>> There's a reason powerbasic has the word power in it's name.  If you want
>> to know everything it can do, go read their web page, they have a complete
>> feature set, and you can even download the manuals if you like, and read
>> them in full before ever purchasing the product.  I'm not much of a
>> windows user anymore, and haven't been for more than 10 years, but when I
>> do need windows work done, I almost always yank out my powerbasic compiler
>> to do the work, because it's so simple to do it.  You can create internet
>> servers with something like 3 or 4 lines of code (they have samples that
>> come with the compiler) and you can build res files that include all your
>> graphics and sounds, that get distributed with your programs, and even
>> compile those res files into the executable, so there's no need to
>> distribute extra files just to make your game work.  One single
>> executable, with all the sounds, graphics, icons, and anything else you
>> need for your program to work, and nobody needs to download anything
>> except one single executable file.  I know you can do that with other
>> languages too, but it's such a difficult process, folks rarely bother to
>> do this,  with powerbasic, it's as simple as creating a text file with the
>> filenames, and running the reseditor on it.  That's all there is to it.
>> For an example of this, go check out the battleship game I released back
>> in 2002, (I think it's still at
>> http://www.nfbcal.org/tsiegel/battle10.exe) and see what I mean.  That has
>> a single executable file, and all sounds are included, and the entire game
>> is still only a couple hundred K in size.  I recently wrote a memory game
>> for the raspberry pi, and with all the sounds, it's a hundred megabytes or
>> morein size, and each one of the sound files needs to be present for the
>> game to work, because res files don't exist on linux. :)
>> The plus to that is that you can replace the sounds with ones of your
>> choice, so that does help, but still, for ease of use, for windows
>> programming, I've never found anything easier.
>> On OSX (at least early versions of 10.4 and 10.5) Java was my language of
>> choice, because it could build guis with almost no effort, and for my
>> raspberry pi, I use either C or pascal, (depending on what I'm doing), but
>> on windows, I keep going back to powerbasic, because it's so darned easy.
>> :)
>> 
>> 
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Re: [Audyssey] Getting into programming

[Justin Jones]

I remember Pascal... That was a long time ago, though, as I took a
programming class in high school and that was the language that we
started with.

I'll go take a look at Powerbasic's web site before I make up my mind,
vis-à-vis which language I will try and learn.

On 3/7/16, Travis Siegel  wrote:
> There's a reason powerbasic has the word power in it's name.  If you want
> to know everything it can do, go read their web page, they have a complete
> feature set, and you can even download the manuals if you like, and read
> them in full before ever purchasing the product.  I'm not much of a
> windows user anymore, and haven't been for more than 10 years, but when I
> do need windows work done, I almost always yank out my powerbasic compiler
> to do the work, because it's so simple to do it.  You can create internet
> servers with something like 3 or 4 lines of code (they have samples that
> come with the compiler) and you can build res files that include all your
> graphics and sounds, that get distributed with your programs, and even
> compile those res files into the executable, so there's no need to
> distribute extra files just to make your game work.  One single
> executable, with all the sounds, graphics, icons, and anything else you
> need for your program to work, and nobody needs to download anything
> except one single executable file.  I know you can do that with other
> languages too, but it's such a difficult process, folks rarely bother to
> do this,  with powerbasic, it's as simple as creating a text file with the
> filenames, and running the reseditor on it.  That's all there is to it.
> For an example of this, go check out the battleship game I released back
> in 2002, (I think it's still at
> http://www.nfbcal.org/tsiegel/battle10.exe) and see what I mean.  That has
> a single executable file, and all sounds are included, and the entire game
> is still only a couple hundred K in size.  I recently wrote a memory game
> for the raspberry pi, and with all the sounds, it's a hundred megabytes or
> morein size, and each one of the sound files needs to be present for the
> game to work, because res files don't exist on linux. :)
> The plus to that is that you can replace the sounds with ones of your
> choice, so that does help, but still, for ease of use, for windows
> programming, I've never found anything easier.
> On OSX (at least early versions of 10.4 and 10.5) Java was my language of
> choice, because it could build guis with almost no effort, and for my
> raspberry pi, I use either C or pascal, (depending on what I'm doing), but
> on windows, I keep going back to powerbasic, because it's so darned easy.
> :)
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