[gentoo-user] Re: gentoo install on Dell restore partition... live?
Michael Higgins wrote: So, I finally got the OK to nuke another Dell winbox. My dream is to: * Partition the restore partition (3.6 GB) for any small linux installation * make that partition active, bootable, with grub installed * reboot and ssh into that linux machine to finish by toasting NTFS partition and making it my gentoo system '/' as per usual... Can this be done without physical access to the machine which is currently running windows XP? I am administrator and get 'there' via RDP. It is possible: http://www.gentoo.org/doc/en/altinstall.xml#doc_chap5 But not really recommended because if you do something wrong (wrong grub config, SSH misconfiguration, etc.) you'll need to go there and get physical access. Also, instead of installing a downloaded tarball, you can just clone the existing Gentoo installation into the new partition and boot from it. This usually means: 'cp -a' your existing / to your target / (except /dev, /sys and /proc). If you mounted your target / as /root/target, you do: cp -a /usr /root/hd (repeat this for all directories in your current / *EXCEPT* /dev, /proc, /sys and /lost+found) mkdir /root/hd/dev mkdir /root/hd/proc mkdir /root/hd/sys mknod /root/hd/dev/console c 5 1 mknod /root/hd/null c 1 3 touch /root/hd/dev/.keep touch /root/hd/proc/.keep touch /root/hd/sys/.keep Now chroot into it: mount -t proc none /root/mnt/proc mount -o bind /dev /mnt/gentoo/dev chroot /root/hd /bin/bash Now edit /etc/fstab to use the new partitions, edit /boot/grub/grub.conf and reinstall grub: grub root (hd0,0)-- sustitute with what you really have/want setup quit Now change your SSH config to allow for root login! (Or add a normal user if you don't want that.) In any case, check your SSH config. You're ready. Leave the chroot and unmount: exit umount /root/hd/dev umount /root/hd/proc If you've set up grub correctly while in the chroot, you can now reboot and the new system should come up. If not, I hope it's not a long drive or walk to get physical access :P -- gentoo-user@lists.gentoo.org mailing list
[gentoo-user] Re: gentoo install on Dell restore partition... live?
Nikos Chantziaras wrote: 'cp -a' your existing / to your target / (except /dev, /sys and /proc). If you mounted your target / as /root/target /root/hd, but I'm sure you were able to figure out the typo in your own ;) -- gentoo-user@lists.gentoo.org mailing list
Re: [gentoo-user] grub menu working but invisible
* Andrew Tchernoivanov ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) [15.07.08 01:41]: Are the characters on the screen readable? I had this problem too, along with the black grub screen. If they aren't - try adding vga=0x31B to your grub.conf Why should that help with grub? Did not found any hint, that ther is a grub option called like that. There is a *kernel* option, called like that, but that won't help with the grub issue. Please correct me if I'm wrong. Sebastian -- Religion ist das Opium des Volkes. Karl Marx [EMAIL PROTECTED]@N GÜNTHER mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] pgpZK93XB1gso.pgp Description: PGP signature
[gentoo-user] Re: gentoo install on Dell restore partition... live?
Nikos Chantziaras wrote: mount -t proc none /root/mnt/proc mount -o bind /dev /mnt/gentoo/dev Bah, too much copypaste without paying attention (it's early and no coffee yet :P) Should of course be: mount -t proc none /root/hd/proc mount -o bind /dev /root/hd/dev -- gentoo-user@lists.gentoo.org mailing list
Re: [gentoo-user] Uwe Thiem
On Tue, 15 Jul 2008 00:31:51 -0500, Dale wrote: Does anybody know what the cause of death was? Kidney failure, apparently. According to http://www.linux.org.na/index.php/topic,246.0.html he had been ill for a while. A sad loss whatever the cause. -- Neil Bothwick signature.asc Description: PGP signature
Re: [gentoo-user] No progress indicator in bootsplash
* Nikos Chantziaras ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) [15.07.08 07:28]: I've created an initrd with: splash_geninitramfs -g /boot/initrd.splash1280x1024 -r 1280x1024 gentoo ^^ The splash shows up, but there's no animation in the progress indicator bar Does it indicate any progress? If you see a growing bar: works as designed. and no splash messages (like the live CD has). Works as designed. (Fade-in and fade-out works though). Did I miss something? Yes, you want to actually try out the livecd splash-screen: # emerge media-gfx/splash-themes-livecd and then buikd a new initrd. HTH Sebastian -- Religion ist das Opium des Volkes. Karl Marx [EMAIL PROTECTED]@N GÜNTHER mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] pgpah0ASBbTGh.pgp Description: PGP signature
Re: [gentoo-user] Re: gentoo install on Dell restore partition... live?
On Tue, 15 Jul 2008 09:43:33 +0300, Nikos Chantziaras wrote: 'cp -a' your existing / to your target / (except /dev, /sys and /proc). If you mounted your target / as /root/target, you do: cp -a /usr /root/hd (repeat this for all directories in your current / *EXCEPT* /dev, /proc, /sys and /lost+found) mkdir /root/hd/dev mkdir /root/hd/proc mkdir /root/hd/sys Or replace all this with one command cp -al / /root/hd or, my preference rsync -ax / /root/hd/ -- Neil Bothwick SUBLIMINALsendmoneyTAGLINE signature.asc Description: PGP signature
Re: [gentoo-user] Uwe Thiem
On Mon, 14 Jul 2008 17:53:35 +0200 Alan McKinnon [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: It's a sad day for me today. Uwe Thiem, who has been on this list longer than I have, passed away on Friday. My friend Alastair put up a little tribute here: http://www.tectonic.co.za/?p=2574 What that page doesn't say is how much Uwe loved gentoo. A long-time subscriber around here, his posts must number in the 100s if not 1000s. I'm gonna miss him, even though he lived only 1000km away (a trivial distance in Africa) I never did get to collect that pitcher of Namibia's finest he owed me. I guess now I never will. Terrible news :( May he rest in peace. -- Best regards, Daniel -- gentoo-user@lists.gentoo.org mailing list
Re: [gentoo-user] Uwe Thiem
Neil Bothwick wrote: On Tue, 15 Jul 2008 00:31:51 -0500, Dale wrote: Does anybody know what the cause of death was? Kidney failure, apparently. According to http://www.linux.org.na/index.php/topic,246.0.html he had been ill for a while. A sad loss whatever the cause. I notice the site said he was ill for a while so I figured he had cancer or something like that. Kidney failure is not good either. It is a sad loss for sure. Dale -- gentoo-user@lists.gentoo.org mailing list
[gentoo-user] Re: Problems compiling gcc 4.2.4 and 4.3.1-r1
/gcc-4.3.1-r1/work/gcc-4.3.1/libmudflap/mf-hooks2.c:2099:
error: dereferencing pointer to incomplete type
/var/tmp/portage/sys-devel/gcc-4.3.1-r1/work/gcc-4.3.1/libmudflap/mf-hooks2.c:2100:
error: dereferencing pointer to incomplete type
make[4]: *** [mf-hooks2.lo] Error 1
make[4]: Leaving directory
`/var/tmp/portage/sys-devel/gcc-4.3.1-r1/work/build/i686-pc-linux-gnu/libmudflap'
make[3]: *** [all-recursive] Error 1
make[3]: Leaving directory
`/var/tmp/portage/sys-devel/gcc-4.3.1-r1/work/build/i686-pc-linux-gnu/libmudflap'
make[2]: *** [all] Error 2
make[2]: Leaving directory
`/var/tmp/portage/sys-devel/gcc-4.3.1-r1/work/build/i686-pc-linux-gnu/libmudflap'
make[1]: *** [all-target-libmudflap] Error 2
make[1]: Leaving directory `/var/tmp/portage/sys-devel/gcc-4.3.1-r1/work/build'
make: *** [profiledbootstrap] Error 2
*
* ERROR: sys-devel/gcc-4.3.1-r1 failed.
* Call stack:
* ebuild.sh, line 49: Called src_compile
* environment, line 4557: Called toolchain_src_compile
* environment, line 5072: Called gcc_src_compile
* environment, line 2921: Called gcc_do_make
* environment, line 2751: Called die
* The specific snippet of code:
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LIBPATH=${LIBPATH} BOOT_CFLAGS=${BOOT_CFLAGS} ${GCC_MAKE_TARGET} || die
emake failed with ${GCC_MAKE_TARGET};
* The die message:
* emake failed with profiledbootstrap
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relevant.
* A complete build log is located at
'/var/log/portage/sys-devel:gcc-4.3.1-r1:20080715-064502.log'.
* The ebuild environment file is located at
'/var/tmp/portage/sys-devel/gcc-4.3.1-r1/temp/environment'.
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[gentoo-user] Re: gentoo install on Dell restore partition... live?
Neil Bothwick wrote: On Tue, 15 Jul 2008 09:43:33 +0300, Nikos Chantziaras wrote: 'cp -a' your existing / to your target / (except /dev, /sys and /proc). If you mounted your target / as /root/target, you do: cp -a /usr /root/hd (repeat this for all directories in your current / *EXCEPT* /dev, /proc, /sys and /lost+found) mkdir /root/hd/dev mkdir /root/hd/proc mkdir /root/hd/sys Or replace all this with one command cp -al / /root/hd I assume you meant 'cp -ax' :P That's indeed faster than typing everything by hand and I forgot about it ;P or, my preference rsync -ax / /root/hd/ Well, /root/hd is empty so there's nothing to win with rsync other than it being slower than cp. But it does the job too, anyway. -- gentoo-user@lists.gentoo.org mailing list
Re: [gentoo-user] Uwe Thiem
Daniel Iliev wrote: On Mon, 14 Jul 2008 17:53:35 +0200 Alan McKinnon [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: It's a sad day for me today. Uwe Thiem, who has been on this list longer than I have, passed away on Friday. My friend Alastair put up a little tribute here: http://www.tectonic.co.za/?p=2574 What that page doesn't say is how much Uwe loved gentoo. A long-time subscriber around here, his posts must number in the 100s if not 1000s. I'm gonna miss him, even though he lived only 1000km away (a trivial distance in Africa) I never did get to collect that pitcher of Namibia's finest he owed me. I guess now I never will. Terrible news :( May he rest in peace. Sad, sad news. I hardly knew him, but I did know of him through his posts. He has many mourning his passing. A testament to how close our community is. I echo the sentiment, may he rest in peace. -- gentoo-user@lists.gentoo.org mailing list
[gentoo-user] Re: Problems compiling gcc 4.2.4 and 4.3.1-r1
John covici wrote: on Tuesday 07/15/2008 Nikos Chantziaras([EMAIL PROTECTED]) wrote John covici wrote: on Monday 07/14/2008 Joe User([EMAIL PROTECTED]) wrote John covici schrieb: [snip] Portage 2.1.4.4 (default/linux/x86/2008.0/developer, gcc-4.1.2, glibc-2.6.1-r0, 2.6.24-gentoo-r5 i686) ^^ that's your major problem... Which of those is the problem -- I am running 32-bit operating systems. The developer profile is *not* like developer installations of other distros (meaning installations that include compilers, IDEs and such). It's an environment designed for Gentoo devs. Don't use it unless you have been told to use it. So, I changed the link in /etc/make.profile to desktop instead of developer and I am getting the same results as before -- it stops on the same error Did you try updating glibc even though it's not a dependency with x86? -- gentoo-user@lists.gentoo.org mailing list
Re: [gentoo-user] Re: gentoo install on Dell restore partition... live?
On Tue, 15 Jul 2008 10:42:20 +0300, Nikos Chantziaras wrote: I assume you meant 'cp -ax' :P I did, it's tar that uses -l for this. rsync -ax / /root/hd/ Well, /root/hd is empty so there's nothing to win with rsync other than it being slower than cp. But it does the job too, anyway. It preserves directory time stamps, which cp does not. It's not slower because the destination is empty so the initial file scan takes no longer than with cp. Oh, and you can stop and restart it. -- Neil Bothwick Do not underestimate the power of the Force. signature.asc Description: PGP signature
Re: [gentoo-user] grub menu working but invisible
There is a *kernel* option, called like that, but that won't help with the grub issue. Sorry, my mistake. On Tue, Jul 15, 2008 at 10:50 AM, Sebastian Günther [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: * Andrew Tchernoivanov ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) [15.07.08 01:41]: Are the characters on the screen readable? I had this problem too, along with the black grub screen. If they aren't - try adding vga=0x31B to your grub.conf Why should that help with grub? Did not found any hint, that ther is a grub option called like that. Please correct me if I'm wrong. Sebastian -- Religion ist das Opium des Volkes. Karl Marx [EMAIL PROTECTED]@N GÜNTHER mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
[gentoo-user] Re: Problems compiling gcc 4.2.4 and 4.3.1-r1
on Tuesday 07/15/2008 Nikos Chantziaras([EMAIL PROTECTED]) wrote John covici wrote: on Tuesday 07/15/2008 Nikos Chantziaras([EMAIL PROTECTED]) wrote John covici wrote: on Monday 07/14/2008 Joe User([EMAIL PROTECTED]) wrote John covici schrieb: [snip] Portage 2.1.4.4 (default/linux/x86/2008.0/developer, gcc-4.1.2, glibc-2.6.1-r0, 2.6.24-gentoo-r5 i686) ^^ that's your major problem... Which of those is the problem -- I am running 32-bit operating systems. The developer profile is *not* like developer installations of other distros (meaning installations that include compilers, IDEs and such). It's an environment designed for Gentoo devs. Don't use it unless you have been told to use it. So, I changed the link in /etc/make.profile to desktop instead of developer and I am getting the same results as before -- it stops on the same error Did you try updating glibc even though it's not a dependency with x86? Nope, because I was hesitant being this is an unstable version -- maybe I should go completely unstable -- I will see what happens. -- Your life is like a penny. You're going to lose it. The question is: How do you spend it? John Covici [EMAIL PROTECTED] -- gentoo-user@lists.gentoo.org mailing list
[gentoo-user] Re: No progress indicator in bootsplash
Sebastian Günther wrote: * Nikos Chantziaras ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) [15.07.08 07:28]: I've created an initrd with: splash_geninitramfs -g /boot/initrd.splash1280x1024 -r 1280x1024 gentoo ^^ The splash shows up, but there's no animation in the progress indicator bar Does it indicate any progress? If you see a growing bar: works as designed. There is no growing bar. That's not as designed ;) It's me doing probably something wrong. The bar is there, but it stays empty (does not fill up). and no splash messages (like the live CD has). Works as designed. (Fade-in and fade-out works though). Did I miss something? Yes, you want to actually try out the livecd splash-screen: # emerge media-gfx/splash-themes-livecd and then buikd a new initrd. I've done that, same result. The progress bar stays empty. There is no animation. No messages (like the percentage indicator and things like GPM started). I've followed this guide: http://gentoo-wiki.com/Fbsplash -- gentoo-user@lists.gentoo.org mailing list
Re: [gentoo-user] DVD and changing permissions
Dale [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: /usr/bin/mkisofs: Warning: Cannot write inode/link information with -no-cache-inodes. Setting input-charset to 'ISO-8859-1' from locale. 0.05% done, estimate finish Mon Jul 14 17:09:09 2008 If you explicitly tell mkisofs to do something unreasonable, you should be prepared for any results. I didn't tell it tho, k3b did. Using -no-cache-inodes is a really bad idea! With -praft-points, you may cause many strange things. I'll see if I can force k3b to change those settings. I think I saw them in the custom command part. 2.01.01a34 is nearly a year old, you should use a recent version. If -no-cache-inodes canot be changed, make a bug report. graft points are different. If done correctly, everything works as expected. Unfortunately, the command line used by k3b is not verificable as the important information is hidden inside files. Did you try to mount the DVD on Solaris and this way verify that the problem is not in the Linux kernel? Jörg I don't have anything that runs Solaris so I am not able to test with it. You could just boot a life CD and run the test. It is important to have a verification firrst on where the problem is located. I did never see your problem with wrong dir permissions on Solaris. Jörg -- EMail:[EMAIL PROTECTED] (home) Jörg Schilling D-13353 Berlin [EMAIL PROTECTED](uni) [EMAIL PROTECTED] (work) Blog: http://schily.blogspot.com/ URL: http://cdrecord.berlios.de/old/private/ ftp://ftp.berlios.de/pub/schily -- gentoo-user@lists.gentoo.org mailing list
Re: [gentoo-user] DVD and changing permissions
Dale [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Upgraded to cdrtools-2.01.01_alpha42 but no change. Note that I fixed some problems with the permissions of . and .. with cdrtools-2.01.01a43 that happen on Linux only because some Linux filesystem implementations return the entries for . and .. out of order. mkisofs command: --- /usr/bin/mkisofs -gui -graft-points -volid portage_2008.07.10-14.27.04_1 -volset -appid K3B THE CD KREATOR (C) 1998-2006 SEBASTIAN TRUEG AND THE K3B TEAM -publisher -preparer -sysid LINUX -volset-size 1 -volset-seqno 1 -sort /tmp/kde-dale/k3b4So7Xa.tmp -rock -hide-list /tmp/kde-dale/k3bVuipwb.tmp -joliet -joliet-long -hide-joliet-list /tmp/kde-dale/k3b37kyWb.tmp -udf -full-iso9660-filenames -iso-level 3 -path-list /tmp/kde-dale/k3bzJNImb.tmp You, or anybody else, notice anything strange, odd and/or just plain wrong? Would a different version of k3b help? I'm not sure what is causing this problem just that I have one. I would also be willing to try a command line if you can provide me with the 'correct' options to test with. Without knowing the content of the files, it is not possible to say more about the command line. Jörg -- EMail:[EMAIL PROTECTED] (home) Jörg Schilling D-13353 Berlin [EMAIL PROTECTED](uni) [EMAIL PROTECTED] (work) Blog: http://schily.blogspot.com/ URL: http://cdrecord.berlios.de/old/private/ ftp://ftp.berlios.de/pub/schily -- gentoo-user@lists.gentoo.org mailing list
[gentoo-user] Re: Problems compiling gcc 4.2.4 and 4.3.1-r1
John covici wrote: on Tuesday 07/15/2008 Nikos Chantziaras([EMAIL PROTECTED]) wrote Did you try updating glibc even though it's not a dependency with x86? Nope, because I was hesitant being this is an unstable version -- maybe I should go completely unstable -- I will see what happens. I don't understand the logic. If you're hesitant to go unstable for one package, why aren't you less hesitant to go completely unstable? FWIW, I'm on stable with only a few packages unstable (including gcc and glibc; the latter only because gcc 4.3 needs it). -- gentoo-user@lists.gentoo.org mailing list
Re: [gentoo-user] DVD and changing permissions
You, or anybody else, notice anything strange, odd and/or just plain wrong? Would a different version of k3b help? I'm not sure what is causing this problem just that I have one. I would also be willing to try a command line if you can provide me with the 'correct' options to test with. Thanks. I did a bit testing last night and found out that the files and directories in the resulting images created by mkisofs all have permissions 000. What I see from the man pages is that the -udf and -r options are setting the user and group permissions to zero. When I used -UDF and -R instead I also get zero values. I checked this by using isoinfo to analyse the files within the image. This however there seems to be no problem for me as the DVD's are automounted with permissions 555 for folders and 444 for files. So what is the problem here, mkisofs creating images with wrong permissions, or this permissions are normal and some automounter or mount in general are/is mounting the DVD with wrong permissions probably with interference of the udf kernel driver. -- gentoo-user@lists.gentoo.org mailing list
Re: [gentoo-user] DVD and changing permissions
Dale [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I have a CD burner on here too. I basically set them both up the same way. The CD works just fine but the *DVD* does not. Any ideas? Dale :-) :-) OK folks, still looking for a fix here. Any ideas at all? The problem is that your mkisofs command line hides the most important facts inside files that you did not send. Try to create a scenario that allows to reproduce your problem without using k3b. Jörg -- EMail:[EMAIL PROTECTED] (home) Jörg Schilling D-13353 Berlin [EMAIL PROTECTED](uni) [EMAIL PROTECTED] (work) Blog: http://schily.blogspot.com/ URL: http://cdrecord.berlios.de/old/private/ ftp://ftp.berlios.de/pub/schily -- gentoo-user@lists.gentoo.org mailing list
Re: [gentoo-user] DVD and changing permissions
Dale [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Daniel Pielmeier wrote: Dale schrieb: OK folks, still looking for a fix here. Any ideas at all? There is a bug [1] open about this problem, unfortunately still unsolved! Maybe the k3b command line will help to investigate on this further. [1] http://bugs.gentoo.org/show_bug.cgi?id=213399 If you saw the post on the thread referenced on the bug, the last post was mine. I'm dalek on the forums. At least now I know it is not still just me. Just to be sure: did you mount Rock Ridge or did you mount UDF? Jörg -- EMail:[EMAIL PROTECTED] (home) Jörg Schilling D-13353 Berlin [EMAIL PROTECTED](uni) [EMAIL PROTECTED] (work) Blog: http://schily.blogspot.com/ URL: http://cdrecord.berlios.de/old/private/ ftp://ftp.berlios.de/pub/schily -- gentoo-user@lists.gentoo.org mailing list
Re: [gentoo-user] DVD and changing permissions
Joerg Schilling wrote: Dale [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Upgraded to cdrtools-2.01.01_alpha42 but no change. Note that I fixed some problems with the permissions of . and .. with cdrtools-2.01.01a43 that happen on Linux only because some Linux filesystem implementations return the entries for . and .. out of order. mkisofs command: --- /usr/bin/mkisofs -gui -graft-points -volid portage_2008.07.10-14.27.04_1 -volset -appid K3B THE CD KREATOR (C) 1998-2006 SEBASTIAN TRUEG AND THE K3B TEAM -publisher -preparer -sysid LINUX -volset-size 1 -volset-seqno 1 -sort /tmp/kde-dale/k3b4So7Xa.tmp -rock -hide-list /tmp/kde-dale/k3bVuipwb.tmp -joliet -joliet-long -hide-joliet-list /tmp/kde-dale/k3b37kyWb.tmp -udf -full-iso9660-filenames -iso-level 3 -path-list /tmp/kde-dale/k3bzJNImb.tmp You, or anybody else, notice anything strange, odd and/or just plain wrong? Would a different version of k3b help? I'm not sure what is causing this problem just that I have one. I would also be willing to try a command line if you can provide me with the 'correct' options to test with. Without knowing the content of the files, it is not possible to say more about the command line. Jörg The content if the DVD is /usr/portage including distfiles. I'm on dial-up so having a copy that is somewhat up to date is a 'good idea'. Also note, Konqueror as root works but not as a user. I can also get there by command line. Can you recommend a gentoo-sources kernel version that you know from yourself or others will work? I'm willing to compile one and give it a shot. I am currently using linux-2.6.23-gentoo-r8/ but also tried linux-2.6.24-gentoo-r8 with no change. Dale :-) :-) -- gentoo-user@lists.gentoo.org mailing list
Re: [gentoo-user] DVD and changing permissions
Joerg Schilling wrote: Dale [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: /usr/bin/mkisofs: Warning: Cannot write inode/link information with -no-cache-inodes. Setting input-charset to 'ISO-8859-1' from locale. 0.05% done, estimate finish Mon Jul 14 17:09:09 2008 If you explicitly tell mkisofs to do something unreasonable, you should be prepared for any results. I didn't tell it tho, k3b did. Using -no-cache-inodes is a really bad idea! With -praft-points, you may cause many strange things. I'll see if I can force k3b to change those settings. I think I saw them in the custom command part. 2.01.01a34 is nearly a year old, you should use a recent version. If -no-cache-inodes canot be changed, make a bug report. graft points are different. If done correctly, everything works as expected. Unfortunately, the command line used by k3b is not verificable as the important information is hidden inside files. Did you try to mount the DVD on Solaris and this way verify that the problem is not in the Linux kernel? Jörg I don't have anything that runs Solaris so I am not able to test with it. You could just boot a life CD and run the test. It is important to have a verification firrst on where the problem is located. I did never see your problem with wrong dir permissions on Solaris. Jörg To make sure I get what you are saying, you want me to boot a live CD and see if I can access it? If so, I'm sure that would work since I would be root. It works as root just not as a user. Am I thinking correctly? Sometimes I'm off in left field. Dale :-) :-) -- gentoo-user@lists.gentoo.org mailing list
Re: [gentoo-user] DVD and changing permissions
Joerg Schilling wrote: Dale [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Daniel Pielmeier wrote: Dale schrieb: OK folks, still looking for a fix here. Any ideas at all? There is a bug [1] open about this problem, unfortunately still unsolved! Maybe the k3b command line will help to investigate on this further. [1] http://bugs.gentoo.org/show_bug.cgi?id=213399 If you saw the post on the thread referenced on the bug, the last post was mine. I'm dalek on the forums. At least now I know it is not still just me. Just to be sure: did you mount Rock Ridge or did you mount UDF? Jörg /dev/hdd on /media/portage_2008.07.10-14.27.04_1 type udf (ro,nosuid,nodev,uid=1000) Is that correct? There is no fstab entry since someone said it was not needed nowadays. Dale :-) :-) -- gentoo-user@lists.gentoo.org mailing list
Re: [gentoo-user] DVD and changing permissions
Joerg Schilling wrote: Dale [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I have a CD burner on here too. I basically set them both up the same way. The CD works just fine but the *DVD* does not. Any ideas? Dale :-) :-) OK folks, still looking for a fix here. Any ideas at all? The problem is that your mkisofs command line hides the most important facts inside files that you did not send. Try to create a scenario that allows to reproduce your problem without using k3b. Jörg I'm not sure if you saw it but I sent the k3b debugging information in a couple posts. It had some long commands in it. I can send them again if needed. K3b is all I have ever used so I'm clueless on any other way. I'd be glad to try a command line if you can give me the correct options. I sort of think this is k3b, udev having a bad mounting day or maybe even a kernel thing. I'm just not sure which. If you need more info just ask. Dale :-) :-) -- gentoo-user@lists.gentoo.org mailing list
Re: [gentoo-user] Re: Problems compiling gcc 4.2.4 and 4.3.1-r1
On Tue, 15 Jul 2008 03:54:43 -0400, John covici wrote: Did you try updating glibc even though it's not a dependency with x86? Nope, because I was hesitant being this is an unstable version It is not unstable, the ~arch keyword means the ebuild is still in testing. Nowhere in the Gentoo docs does it say that setting ~arch will install unstable software. If software not fit for general use is included in the portage treee, like betas and release candidates, it is generally package-masked so even ~arch systems won't install it without specifically unmasking it. -- Neil Bothwick I'm Bugs Bunny of Borg. What's up Collective? signature.asc Description: PGP signature
Re: [gentoo-user] DVD and changing permissions
Daniel Pielmeier [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: You, or anybody else, notice anything strange, odd and/or just plain wrong? Would a different version of k3b help? I'm not sure what is causing this problem just that I have one. I would also be willing to try a command line if you can provide me with the 'correct' options to test with. Thanks. I did a bit testing last night and found out that the files and directories in the resulting images created by mkisofs all have permissions 000. What I see from the man pages is that the -udf and -r options are setting the user and group permissions to zero. When I used -UDF and -R instead I also get zero values. I checked this by using isoinfo to analyse the files within the image. This however there seems to be no problem for me as the DVD's are automounted with permissions 555 for folders and 444 for files. So what is the problem here, mkisofs creating images with wrong permissions, or this permissions are normal and some automounter or mount in general are/is mounting the DVD with wrong permissions probably with interference of the udf kernel driver. UDF permissions created by mkisofs have been verified by mounting the images on Solaris. As I could not see any deviations from the original permissions, I suspect a problem in the Linux kernel. If you have no Solaris, it could help to make a mount test with a Rock Ridge mount. If the permissions are OK with Rock Ridge, then is is a bug in the UDF implementation in the Linux kernel. Jörg -- EMail:[EMAIL PROTECTED] (home) Jörg Schilling D-13353 Berlin [EMAIL PROTECTED](uni) [EMAIL PROTECTED] (work) Blog: http://schily.blogspot.com/ URL: http://cdrecord.berlios.de/old/private/ ftp://ftp.berlios.de/pub/schily -- gentoo-user@lists.gentoo.org mailing list
Re: [gentoo-user] DVD and changing permissions
Dale [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Joerg Schilling wrote: Just to be sure: did you mount Rock Ridge or did you mount UDF? Jörg /dev/hdd on /media/portage_2008.07.10-14.27.04_1 type udf (ro,nosuid,nodev,uid=1000) Is that correct? There is no fstab entry since someone said it was not needed nowadays. OK, now try a plain Rock Ridge mount Jörg -- EMail:[EMAIL PROTECTED] (home) Jörg Schilling D-13353 Berlin [EMAIL PROTECTED](uni) [EMAIL PROTECTED] (work) Blog: http://schily.blogspot.com/ URL: http://cdrecord.berlios.de/old/private/ ftp://ftp.berlios.de/pub/schily -- gentoo-user@lists.gentoo.org mailing list
Re: [gentoo-user] DVD and changing permissions
Dale [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Try to create a scenario that allows to reproduce your problem without using k3b. Jörg I'm not sure if you saw it but I sent the k3b debugging information in a couple posts. It had some long commands in it. I can send them again if needed. This is why I told you that it is impossible to repeat your problem as important information is missing. Jörg -- EMail:[EMAIL PROTECTED] (home) Jörg Schilling D-13353 Berlin [EMAIL PROTECTED](uni) [EMAIL PROTECTED] (work) Blog: http://schily.blogspot.com/ URL: http://cdrecord.berlios.de/old/private/ ftp://ftp.berlios.de/pub/schily -- gentoo-user@lists.gentoo.org mailing list
Re: [gentoo-user] DVD and changing permissions
2008/7/15, Joerg Schilling [EMAIL PROTECTED]: I did a bit testing last night and found out that the files and directories in the resulting images created by mkisofs all have permissions 000. What I see from the man pages is that the -udf and -r options are setting the user and group permissions to zero. When I used -UDF and -R instead I also get zero values. I checked this by using isoinfo to analyse the files within the image. This however there seems to be no problem for me as the DVD's are automounted with permissions 555 for folders and 444 for files. So what is the problem here, mkisofs creating images with wrong permissions, or this permissions are normal and some automounter or mount in general are/is mounting the DVD with wrong permissions probably with interference of the udf kernel driver. UDF permissions created by mkisofs have been verified by mounting the images on Solaris. As I could not see any deviations from the original permissions, I suspect a problem in the Linux kernel. If you have no Solaris, it could help to make a mount test with a Rock Ridge mount. If the permissions are OK with Rock Ridge, then is is a bug in the UDF implementation in the Linux kernel. I have opensolaris in a virtual machine but i don't think this is enough to verify it correctly, so i will try the rock ridge mount. -- gentoo-user@lists.gentoo.org mailing list
Re: [gentoo-user] DVD and changing permissions
Joerg Schilling wrote: Dale [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Joerg Schilling wrote: Just to be sure: did you mount Rock Ridge or did you mount UDF? Jörg /dev/hdd on /media/portage_2008.07.10-14.27.04_1 type udf (ro,nosuid,nodev,uid=1000) Is that correct? There is no fstab entry since someone said it was not needed nowadays. OK, now try a plain Rock Ridge mount Jörg LOL. Since there is no fstab entry, you will have to enlighten me a bit. How do I tell hal to mount it that way instead of udf? Hmmm, guess I could turn off hal and try manually. BRB This is odd. [EMAIL PROTECTED] / # cat /proc/filesystems nodev sysfs nodev rootfs nodev bdev nodev proc nodev binfmt_misc nodev sockfs nodev usbfs nodev pipefs nodev anon_inodefs nodev futexfs nodev tmpfs nodev inotifyfs nodev devpts reiserfs ext3 ext4dev ext2 nodev ramfs msdos vfat iso9660 nodev nfs nodev nfsd ntfs nodev autofs udf xfs nodev mqueue nodev rpc_pipefs [EMAIL PROTECTED] / # I don't seem to have a Rock Ridge. I couldn't find it in the kernel config to enable it and equery doesn't list one either. Where does it come from exactly? Going to try to disable Rock Ridge in k3b and see what blows up. Dale :-) :-) -- gentoo-user@lists.gentoo.org mailing list
Re: [gentoo-user] DVD and changing permissions
Daniel Pielmeier [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: UDF permissions created by mkisofs have been verified by mounting the images on Solaris. As I could not see any deviations from the original permissions, I suspect a problem in the Linux kernel. If you have no Solaris, it could help to make a mount test with a Rock Ridge mount. If the permissions are OK with Rock Ridge, then is is a bug in the UDF implementation in the Linux kernel. I have opensolaris in a virtual machine but i don't think this is enough to verify it correctly, so i will try the rock ridge mount. This is sufficient, just copy the image into the virtual machine, set up a lofi device for the image and then call mount -F udfs Jörg -- EMail:[EMAIL PROTECTED] (home) Jörg Schilling D-13353 Berlin [EMAIL PROTECTED](uni) [EMAIL PROTECTED] (work) Blog: http://schily.blogspot.com/ URL: http://cdrecord.berlios.de/old/private/ ftp://ftp.berlios.de/pub/schily -- gentoo-user@lists.gentoo.org mailing list
Re: [gentoo-user] DVD and changing permissions
2008/7/15, Dale [EMAIL PROTECTED]: LOL. Since there is no fstab entry, you will have to enlighten me a bit. How do I tell hal to mount it that way instead of udf? Hmmm, guess I could turn off hal and try manually. BRB This is odd. [EMAIL PROTECTED] / # cat /proc/filesystems nodev sysfs nodev rootfs nodev bdev nodev proc nodev binfmt_misc nodev sockfs nodev usbfs nodev pipefs nodev anon_inodefs nodev futexfs nodev tmpfs nodev inotifyfs nodev devpts reiserfs ext3 ext4dev ext2 nodev ramfs msdos vfat iso9660 nodev nfs nodev nfsd ntfs nodev autofs udf xfs nodev mqueue nodev rpc_pipefs [EMAIL PROTECTED] / # I don't seem to have a Rock Ridge. I couldn't find it in the kernel config to enable it and equery doesn't list one either. Where does it come from exactly? Going to try to disable Rock Ridge in k3b and see what blows up. Unmount the disk and then try to mount it manually. mount -t iso9660 device mount-point This mounts as iso9660 with rock-ridge extension. mount -t udf device mount-point This mounts as udf. For further information it will be a good idea to look into the mount manpage. -- gentoo-user@lists.gentoo.org mailing list
Re: [gentoo-user] DVD and changing permissions
Daniel Pielmeier wrote: Unmount the disk and then try to mount it manually. mount -t iso9660 device mount-point This mounts as iso9660 with rock-ridge extension. mount -t udf device mount-point This mounts as udf. For further information it will be a good idea to look into the mount manpage. Now we are cooking. W O!!! Check this out: [EMAIL PROTECTED] / # ls -al /media/hdd/ total 1898079 dr-xr-xr-x 2 root root 2048 2008-07-15 04:47 . drwxr-xr-x 5 root root224 2008-07-15 05:31 .. -r--r--r-- 1 root root 1943630336 2008-07-10 14:38 portage_2008.07.10-14.27.04_1.tar [EMAIL PROTECTED] / # mount /dev/hda6 on / type reiserfs (rw) proc on /proc type proc (rw) sysfs on /sys type sysfs (rw,nosuid,nodev,noexec) udev on /dev type tmpfs (rw,nosuid) devpts on /dev/pts type devpts (rw,nosuid,noexec) /dev/hda1 on /boot type ext2 (rw) /dev/hda7 on /usr/portage type reiserfs (rw) /dev/hda8 on /home type reiserfs (rw) /dev/hda9 on /data type reiserfs (rw) /dev/hdb1 on /backup type ext3 (rw) none on /dev/shm type tmpfs (rw) usbfs on /proc/bus/usb type usbfs (rw,noexec,nosuid,devmode=0664,devgid=85) binfmt_misc on /proc/sys/fs/binfmt_misc type binfmt_misc (rw,noexec,nosuid,nodev) /dev/hdd on /media/hdd type iso9660 (rw) [EMAIL PROTECTED] / # That is cool. How do I fix this? New kernel? Can I just use this for all my DVD's including those with HUGE files? I have some that are just under 4Gbs. Thanks Dale :-) :-) -- gentoo-user@lists.gentoo.org mailing list
Re: [gentoo-user] DVD and changing permissions
2008/7/15, Joerg Schilling [EMAIL PROTECTED]: Daniel Pielmeier [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: UDF permissions created by mkisofs have been verified by mounting the images on Solaris. As I could not see any deviations from the original permissions, I suspect a problem in the Linux kernel. If you have no Solaris, it could help to make a mount test with a Rock Ridge mount. If the permissions are OK with Rock Ridge, then is is a bug in the UDF implementation in the Linux kernel. I have opensolaris in a virtual machine but i don't think this is enough to verify it correctly, so i will try the rock ridge mount. This is sufficient, just copy the image into the virtual machine, set up a lofi device for the image and then call mount -F udfs I have set up the machine recently, and I think there is now way to share files between Host and Guest OS in Virtualbox when the guest is Solaris. So I will burn the Live CD and try it within the Live CD. -- gentoo-user@lists.gentoo.org mailing list
Re: [gentoo-user] DVD and changing permissions
Daniel Pielmeier [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: 2008/7/15, Joerg Schilling [EMAIL PROTECTED]: Daniel Pielmeier [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: UDF permissions created by mkisofs have been verified by mounting the images on Solaris. As I could not see any deviations from the original permissions, I suspect a problem in the Linux kernel. If you have no Solaris, it could help to make a mount test with a Rock Ridge mount. If the permissions are OK with Rock Ridge, then is is a bug in the UDF implementation in the Linux kernel. I have opensolaris in a virtual machine but i don't think this is enough to verify it correctly, so i will try the rock ridge mount. This is sufficient, just copy the image into the virtual machine, set up a lofi device for the image and then call mount -F udfs I have set up the machine recently, and I think there is now way to share files between Host and Guest OS in Virtualbox when the guest is Solaris. So I will burn the Live CD and try it within the Live CD. Any virtualization solution I know supports at least scp or ftp to bring in files. Jörg -- EMail:[EMAIL PROTECTED] (home) Jörg Schilling D-13353 Berlin [EMAIL PROTECTED](uni) [EMAIL PROTECTED] (work) Blog: http://schily.blogspot.com/ URL: http://cdrecord.berlios.de/old/private/ ftp://ftp.berlios.de/pub/schily -- gentoo-user@lists.gentoo.org mailing list
Re: [gentoo-user] DVD and changing permissions
2008/7/15, Joerg Schilling [EMAIL PROTECTED]: I have set up the machine recently, and I think there is now way to share files between Host and Guest OS in Virtualbox when the guest is Solaris. So I will burn the Live CD and try it within the Live CD. Any virtualization solution I know supports at least scp or ftp to bring in files. Thanks I will try this first! -- gentoo-user@lists.gentoo.org mailing list
[gentoo-user] Mail on multiple laptops
I've always had just one laptop so I've been a POP user for years now, but I'm finally buying a second laptop for travels (Asus Eee PC) and I was wondering what gentoo-user would recommend as a good way to keep the mail synced on both of my machines. I was looking into IMAP but I can't really figure out how it works, and Google doesn't offer IMAP, and I'd like to keep this e-mail address. Can anyone make any suggestions? -- If programmers deserve to be rewarded for creating innovative programs, by the same token they deserve to be punished if they restrict the use of these programs. - Richard Stallman pgp99Uteje2Pu.pgp Description: PGP signature
Re: [gentoo-user] Mail on multiple laptops
2008/7/15, Michael Pobega [EMAIL PROTECTED]: I've always had just one laptop so I've been a POP user for years now, but I'm finally buying a second laptop for travels (Asus Eee PC) and I was wondering what gentoo-user would recommend as a good way to keep the mail synced on both of my machines. I was looking into IMAP but I can't really figure out how it works, and Google doesn't offer IMAP, and I'd like to keep this e-mail address. Can anyone make any suggestions? IMAP is possible with gmail! http://mail.google.com/support/bin/answer.py?hl=enanswer=75725 -- gentoo-user@lists.gentoo.org mailing list
Re: [gentoo-user] DVD and changing permissions
Hi, have a look at the udev and hal rules. I am pretty sure that this has nothing to do with cdrecord or k3b. -- gentoo-user@lists.gentoo.org mailing list
Re: [gentoo-user] Mail on multiple laptops
On Tue, July 15, 2008 9:05 am, Michael Pobega wrote: I've always had just one laptop so I've been a POP user for years now, but I'm finally buying a second laptop for travels (Asus Eee PC) and I was wondering what gentoo-user would recommend as a good way to keep the mail synced on both of my machines. I was looking into IMAP but I can't really figure out how it works, and Google doesn't offer IMAP, and I'd like to keep this e-mail address. Can anyone make any suggestions? You could get a small external drive. -- gentoo-user@lists.gentoo.org mailing list
Re: [gentoo-user] DVD and changing permissions
Volker Armin Hemmann [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Hi, have a look at the udev and hal rules. I am pretty sure that this has nothing to do with cdrecord or k3b. It would of course also help to manually mount the UDF part and check whether this is a problem caused by the way mount was done. Jörg -- EMail:[EMAIL PROTECTED] (home) Jörg Schilling D-13353 Berlin [EMAIL PROTECTED](uni) [EMAIL PROTECTED] (work) Blog: http://schily.blogspot.com/ URL: http://cdrecord.berlios.de/old/private/ ftp://ftp.berlios.de/pub/schily -- gentoo-user@lists.gentoo.org mailing list
Re: [gentoo-user] Mail on multiple laptops
On Tue, 15 Jul 2008 10:11:08 -0400 (EDT) James [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On Tue, July 15, 2008 9:05 am, Michael Pobega wrote: I've always had just one laptop so I've been a POP user for years now, but I'm finally buying a second laptop for travels (Asus Eee PC) and I was wondering what gentoo-user would recommend as a good way to keep the mail synced on both of my machines. IMAP++ I was looking into IMAP but I can't really figure out how it works, and Google doesn't offer IMAP, and I'd like to keep this e-mail address. Can anyone make any suggestions? I've had some luck with unison. Just sync to a common storage before and after using your laptops. Good luck. Cheers, -- |\ /|| | ~ ~ | \/ ||---| `|` ? ||ichael | |iggins\^ / michael.higgins[at]evolone[dot]org -- gentoo-user@lists.gentoo.org mailing list
Re: [gentoo-user] Mail on multiple laptops
Michael Pobega wrote: recommend as a good way to keep the mail synced on both of my machines. I would definitely recommend IMAP. With laptops you should use disconnected IMAP - you wont be online all the time you turn on your laptop. You got all your emails as a copy on each of your IMAP clients. Anytime you're online you may synchronize to the server. I was looking into IMAP but I can't really figure out how it works Maybe one can compare it with a simple remote filesystem. -- mailto: [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://www.nico-beuermann.de gnupg fingerprint: 56DA 4E32 3A4A 52AC B769 DFC2 BF3E 9805 09BB 4259 -- gentoo-user@lists.gentoo.org mailing list
Re: [gentoo-user] Re: gentoo install on Dell restore partition... live?
On Tue, 15 Jul 2008 08:52:20 +0100 Neil Bothwick [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On Tue, 15 Jul 2008 10:42:20 +0300, Nikos Chantziaras wrote: I assume you meant 'cp -ax' :P I did, it's tar that uses -l for this. rsync -ax / /root/hd/ Well, /root/hd is empty so there's nothing to win with rsync other than it being slower than cp. But it does the job too, anyway. It preserves directory time stamps, which cp does not. It's not slower because the destination is empty so the initial file scan takes no longer than with cp. Oh, and you can stop and restart it. OK Guys, thanks for the tips. I'll be trying later this week, just in case Saturday means a trip to the physical location. :( Cheers, -- |\ /|| | ~ ~ | \/ ||---| `|` ? ||ichael | |iggins\^ / michael.higgins[at]evolone[dot]org -- gentoo-user@lists.gentoo.org mailing list
[gentoo-user] Re: Mail on multiple laptops
On 2008-07-15, Daniel Pielmeier [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: 2008/7/15, Michael Pobega [EMAIL PROTECTED]: I've always had just one laptop so I've been a POP user for years now, but I'm finally buying a second laptop for travels (Asus Eee PC) and I was wondering what gentoo-user would recommend as a good way to keep the mail synced on both of my machines. I was looking into IMAP but I can't really figure out how it works, and Google doesn't offer IMAP, and I'd like to keep this e-mail address. Can anyone make any suggestions? IMAP is possible with gmail! http://mail.google.com/support/bin/answer.py?hl=enanswer=75725 Not only is it possible, it works very nicely. With 6GB of stoarge for free, you just leave all your mail on the server. -- Grant Edwards grante Yow! Look into my eyes and at try to forget that you have visi.coma Macy's charge card! -- gentoo-user@lists.gentoo.org mailing list
Re: [gentoo-user] DVD and changing permissions
On Tuesday 15 July 2008, Dale wrote: I don't seem to have a Rock Ridge. I couldn't find it in the kernel config to enable it and equery doesn't list one either. Where does it come from exactly? Rock Ridge isn't a filesystem, it's an extension to iso9660. From man mount: Mount options for iso9660 ISO 9660 is a standard describing a filesystem structure to be used on CD-ROMs. (This filesystem type is also seen on some DVDs. See also the udf filesystem.) Normal iso9660 filenames appear in a 8.3 format (i.e., DOS-like restrictions on filename length), and in addition all characters are in upper case. Also there is no field for file ownership, protection, number of links, provision for block/character devices, etc. Rock Ridge is an extension to iso9660 that provides all of these unix like features. Basically there are extensions to each directory record that supply all of the additional information, and when Rock Ridge is in use, the filesystem is indistinguishable from a normal UNIX file system (except that it is read-only, of course). -- Alan McKinnon alan dot mckinnon at gmail dot com -- gentoo-user@lists.gentoo.org mailing list
Re: [gentoo-user] Mail on multiple laptops
On Tue, Jul 15, 2008 at 08:00:22AM -0700, Michael Higgins wrote: On Tue, 15 Jul 2008 10:11:08 -0400 (EDT) James [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On Tue, July 15, 2008 9:05 am, Michael Pobega wrote: I've always had just one laptop so I've been a POP user for years now, but I'm finally buying a second laptop for travels (Asus Eee PC) and I was wondering what gentoo-user would recommend as a good way to keep the mail synced on both of my machines. IMAP++ Can I use procmail with IMAP or is that not possible? And how do I configure Mutt to use download/sync IMAP? -- If programmers deserve to be rewarded for creating innovative programs, by the same token they deserve to be punished if they restrict the use of these programs. - Richard Stallman -- gentoo-user@lists.gentoo.org mailing list
Re: [gentoo-user] Re: Mail on multiple laptops
On Tue, Jul 15, 2008 at 03:25:58PM +, Grant Edwards wrote: On 2008-07-15, Nicolai Beuermann [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I was looking into IMAP but I can't really figure out how it works Maybe one can compare it with a simple remote filesystem. With a few database features thrown in. With IMAP, you can create folders on the server and leave all your mail there. That way you can get to it with any IMAP client on any machine. Most ISPs (and Gmail) offer web access as well. One problem I find is that switching from folder to folder takes a long time ... Sometimes the cache saves, but other times it needs to reread all 54,000 emails, and that takes quite a while. Is there a better method of accessing my folders to speed this up? -- If programmers deserve to be rewarded for creating innovative programs, by the same token they deserve to be punished if they restrict the use of these programs. - Richard Stallman -- gentoo-user@lists.gentoo.org mailing list
[gentoo-user] Re: Mail on multiple laptops
On 2008-07-15, Michael Pobega [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On Tue, Jul 15, 2008 at 08:00:22AM -0700, Michael Higgins wrote: On Tue, 15 Jul 2008 10:11:08 -0400 (EDT) James [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On Tue, July 15, 2008 9:05 am, Michael Pobega wrote: I've always had just one laptop so I've been a POP user for years now, but I'm finally buying a second laptop for travels (Asus Eee PC) and I was wondering what gentoo-user would recommend as a good way to keep the mail synced on both of my machines. Can I use procmail with IMAP or is that not possible? That depends. My ISP allows me to run my mail through procmail on the IMAP server. Gmail doesn't allow that, so you'd have to set up a cron job to read mail from the inbox, run it through procmail, and then store it back into folders on the IMAP server. And how do I configure Mutt to use download/sync IMAP? Mutt isn't really intended to download/sync IMAP (I presume you're referring to offline usage). Mutt is intended to be used online -- to be connected to an IMAP server while you're using it. The whole point of IMAP is that you don't download all your mail. You leave it on the server. I've read about MUAs who are supposed to maintain a local mirror of all of the mail and sync it periodically with the server, but I've never met anybody who actually uses IMAP that way. -- Grant Edwards grante Yow! I represent a at sardine!! visi.com -- gentoo-user@lists.gentoo.org mailing list
Re: [gentoo-user] Re: Mail on multiple laptops
On Tue, Jul 15, 2008 at 03:54:21PM +, Grant Edwards wrote: On 2008-07-15, Michael Pobega [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On Tue, Jul 15, 2008 at 08:00:22AM -0700, Michael Higgins wrote: On Tue, 15 Jul 2008 10:11:08 -0400 (EDT) James [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On Tue, July 15, 2008 9:05 am, Michael Pobega wrote: I've always had just one laptop so I've been a POP user for years now, but I'm finally buying a second laptop for travels (Asus Eee PC) and I was wondering what gentoo-user would recommend as a good way to keep the mail synced on both of my machines. Can I use procmail with IMAP or is that not possible? That depends. My ISP allows me to run my mail through procmail on the IMAP server. Gmail doesn't allow that, so you'd have to set up a cron job to read mail from the inbox, run it through procmail, and then store it back into folders on the IMAP server. How would I do that? I have no idea where to even begin... -- If programmers deserve to be rewarded for creating innovative programs, by the same token they deserve to be punished if they restrict the use of these programs. - Richard Stallman -- gentoo-user@lists.gentoo.org mailing list
[gentoo-user] Re: Mail on multiple laptops
On 2008-07-15, Michael Pobega [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On Tue, Jul 15, 2008 at 03:25:58PM +, Grant Edwards wrote: On 2008-07-15, Nicolai Beuermann [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I was looking into IMAP but I can't really figure out how it works Maybe one can compare it with a simple remote filesystem. With a few database features thrown in. With IMAP, you can create folders on the server and leave all your mail there. That way you can get to it with any IMAP client on any machine. Most ISPs (and Gmail) offer web access as well. One problem I find is that switching from folder to folder takes a long time ... Sometimes the cache saves, but other times it needs to reread all 54,000 emails, and that takes quite a while. Is there a better method of accessing my folders to speed this up? You've got 54000 emails in a single folder? Yikes. I can't imagine that's going to be very fast even with local mail storage. I use IMAP servers that have folders with a couple thousand messages -- that can take a second or two. Most MUAs have a header-caching scheme that should prevent it from having to fetch all of the headers (let along read all the emails) when you change folders. I have noticed that sometimes mutt re-scans the headers when I change to a folder, but I don't know what triggers that (it doesn't seem to happen regularly). -- Grant Edwards grante Yow! I'd like some JUNK at FOOD ... and then I want to visi.combe ALONE -- -- gentoo-user@lists.gentoo.org mailing list
Re: [gentoo-user] Mail on multiple laptops
On Tue, Jul 15, 2008 at 11:43:35AM -0400, Michael Pobega wrote: Can I use procmail with IMAP or is that not possible? And how do I configure Mutt to use download/sync IMAP? procmail? Do you mean sorting to IMAP mailboxes? I imagine you just do the same as normally: set-up procmail to sort to a maildir or mboxes and just find an imap server capable of serving from whichever format you choses. I am at a loss what you want to do with procmail and imap... AFAIK, procmail processes mails, at quite a different level from imap, which transports mail between places. As to your mutt question: emerge mutt with imap use flag. Set up your folders like: set folder=imaps://user@secureimapserver/foldername Ah... google is your friend: http://unix.derkeiler.com/Mailing-Lists/FreeBSD/questions/2008-01/msg01375.html Now I don't have to type all that much. Regards, W -- Willie W. Wong [EMAIL PROTECTED] 408 Fine Hall, Department of Mathematics, Princeton University, Princeton A mathematician's reputation rests on the number of bad proofs he has given. -- gentoo-user@lists.gentoo.org mailing list
[gentoo-user] Re: Mail on multiple laptops
On 2008-07-15, Michael Pobega [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On Tue, Jul 15, 2008 at 03:54:21PM +, Grant Edwards wrote: On 2008-07-15, Michael Pobega [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On Tue, Jul 15, 2008 at 08:00:22AM -0700, Michael Higgins wrote: On Tue, 15 Jul 2008 10:11:08 -0400 (EDT) James [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On Tue, July 15, 2008 9:05 am, Michael Pobega wrote: I've always had just one laptop so I've been a POP user for years now, but I'm finally buying a second laptop for travels (Asus Eee PC) and I was wondering what gentoo-user would recommend as a good way to keep the mail synced on both of my machines. Can I use procmail with IMAP or is that not possible? That depends. My ISP allows me to run my mail through procmail on the IMAP server. Gmail doesn't allow that, so you'd have to set up a cron job to read mail from the inbox, run it through procmail, and then store it back into folders on the IMAP server. How would I do that? I have no idea where to even begin... I'd begin by reading the procmail documentation and googling for fetchmail, procmail and IMAP. Fetchmail is a little utility that periodically polls mail servers and downloads new mail (via POP or IMAP). It can be configured to use whatever MDA you want (in your case procmail). What I don't know how to do off the top of my head is how to store messages in remote IMAP folders from within a procmail rule. I imagine you'll have to pipe the message to a a external to procmail that knows how to do IMAP. Alternatively, your ISP probably has a way to set up filtering and sorting rules on the IMAP server. That _might_ be able to take the place of procmail. -- Grant Edwards grante Yow! Hello. Just walk at along and try NOT to think visi.comabout your INTESTINES being almost FORTY YARDS LONG!! -- gentoo-user@lists.gentoo.org mailing list
Re: [gentoo-user] Mail on multiple laptops
On 15 Jul 2008, at 16:43, Michael Pobega wrote: On Tue, Jul 15, 2008 at 08:00:22AM -0700, Michael Higgins wrote: On Tue, 15 Jul 2008 10:11:08 -0400 (EDT) James [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On Tue, July 15, 2008 9:05 am, Michael Pobega wrote: I've always had just one laptop so I've been a POP user for years now, but I'm finally buying a second laptop for travels (Asus Eee PC) and I was wondering what gentoo-user would recommend as a good way to keep the mail synced on both of my machines. IMAP++ Can I use procmail with IMAP or is that not possible? That's perfectly possible, but only if you run your own IMAP server. I started using IMAP before the advent of Gmail, so this is what I do (although I use maildrop rather than procmail). You can use fetchmail to get your mail from a POP3 provider and use the mda directive in .fetchmailrc; alternatively if you have your own FQDN then you set up an MX record and have the server listen on port 25 for incoming SMTP. The messages are stored in a maildir on your server and then your laptop desktop machines connect to that, seeing the same folder view that procmail feeds into. If you just want to use your single Gmail address and rely on them to host IMAP for you then you're probably best off porting your procmail rules to Gmail's web-based filter setup. When you connect via IMAP you'll see whatever folders are set up in Gmail and messages will be already filtered into them by those rules. Stroller. -- gentoo-user@lists.gentoo.org mailing list
Re: [gentoo-user] Re: Mail on multiple laptops
Grant Edwards schrieb: On 2008-07-15, Michael Pobega [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On Tue, Jul 15, 2008 at 03:25:58PM +, Grant Edwards wrote: On 2008-07-15, Nicolai Beuermann [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I was looking into IMAP but I can't really figure out how it works Maybe one can compare it with a simple remote filesystem. With a few database features thrown in. With IMAP, you can create folders on the server and leave all your mail there. That way you can get to it with any IMAP client on any machine. Most ISPs (and Gmail) offer web access as well. One problem I find is that switching from folder to folder takes a long time ... Sometimes the cache saves, but other times it needs to reread all 54,000 emails, and that takes quite a while. Is there a better method of accessing my folders to speed this up? You've got 54000 emails in a single folder? Yikes. I can't imagine that's going to be very fast even with local mail storage. I use IMAP servers that have folders with a couple thousand messages -- that can take a second or two. Most MUAs have a header-caching scheme that should prevent it from having to fetch all of the headers (let along read all the emails) when you change folders. I have noticed that sometimes mutt re-scans the headers when I change to a folder, but I don't know what triggers that (it doesn't seem to happen regularly). I have ~20,000 mails in one folder. I found some mail reader handle this better than others. I haven't tried Mutt but ClawsMail freezes with 100% CPU-utilization for half a minute every time the folder is accessed. I have no problems with Thunderbird or Evolution, though. signature.asc Description: OpenPGP digital signature
Re: [gentoo-user] Re: Mail on multiple laptops
On Tue, Jul 15, 2008 at 04:02:07PM +, Grant Edwards wrote: On 2008-07-15, Michael Pobega [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On Tue, Jul 15, 2008 at 03:25:58PM +, Grant Edwards wrote: On 2008-07-15, Nicolai Beuermann [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I was looking into IMAP but I can't really figure out how it works Maybe one can compare it with a simple remote filesystem. With a few database features thrown in. With IMAP, you can create folders on the server and leave all your mail there. That way you can get to it with any IMAP client on any machine. Most ISPs (and Gmail) offer web access as well. One problem I find is that switching from folder to folder takes a long time ... Sometimes the cache saves, but other times it needs to reread all 54,000 emails, and that takes quite a while. Is there a better method of accessing my folders to speed this up? You've got 54000 emails in a single folder? Yikes. I can't imagine that's going to be very fast even with local mail storage. I use IMAP servers that have folders with a couple thousand messages -- that can take a second or two. Most MUAs have a header-caching scheme that should prevent it from having to fetch all of the headers (let along read all the emails) when you change folders. I have noticed that sometimes mutt re-scans the headers when I change to a folder, but I don't know what triggers that (it doesn't seem to happen regularly). Yeah, my debian-user folder is at 54,000 e-mails now. It's pretty crazy, it takes me about four minutes to access it. I don't know why Mutt needs to continually cache the data, I thought the idea of caches was to prevent things like this from happening? -- If programmers deserve to be rewarded for creating innovative programs, by the same token they deserve to be punished if they restrict the use of these programs. - Richard Stallman -- gentoo-user@lists.gentoo.org mailing list
Re: [gentoo-user] Re: Mail on multiple laptops
Grant Edwards schrieb: On 2008-07-15, Michael Pobega [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On Tue, Jul 15, 2008 at 08:00:22AM -0700, Michael Higgins wrote: On Tue, 15 Jul 2008 10:11:08 -0400 (EDT) James [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On Tue, July 15, 2008 9:05 am, Michael Pobega wrote: I've always had just one laptop so I've been a POP user for years now, but I'm finally buying a second laptop for travels (Asus Eee PC) and I was wondering what gentoo-user would recommend as a good way to keep the mail synced on both of my machines. Can I use procmail with IMAP or is that not possible? That depends. My ISP allows me to run my mail through procmail on the IMAP server. Gmail doesn't allow that, so you'd have to set up a cron job to read mail from the inbox, run it through procmail, and then store it back into folders on the IMAP server. And how do I configure Mutt to use download/sync IMAP? Mutt isn't really intended to download/sync IMAP (I presume you're referring to offline usage). Mutt is intended to be used online -- to be connected to an IMAP server while you're using it. The whole point of IMAP is that you don't download all your mail. You leave it on the server. I've read about MUAs who are supposed to maintain a local mirror of all of the mail and sync it periodically with the server, but I've never met anybody who actually uses IMAP that way. Take a look on net-mail/offlineimap. I used it for some time for offline-reading while taking a train but I found mail-readers with proper support for downloading mails automatically (a folder-specific option on Thunderbird, Evolution and Claws, for example) more convenient than running another app in the background. signature.asc Description: OpenPGP digital signature
[gentoo-user] Re: Mail on multiple laptops
On 2008-07-15, Stroller [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On 15 Jul 2008, at 16:43, Michael Pobega wrote: On Tue, Jul 15, 2008 at 08:00:22AM -0700, Michael Higgins wrote: On Tue, 15 Jul 2008 10:11:08 -0400 (EDT) James [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On Tue, July 15, 2008 9:05 am, Michael Pobega wrote: I've always had just one laptop so I've been a POP user for years now, but I'm finally buying a second laptop for travels (Asus Eee PC) and I was wondering what gentoo-user would recommend as a good way to keep the mail synced on both of my machines. IMAP++ Can I use procmail with IMAP or is that not possible? That's perfectly possible, but only if you run your own IMAP server. Not true. You could fetch the mail from the IMAP server, run it through procmail, and store the sorted/filtered messages back to the IMAP server. Here's a program that does that alsmot that (it runs the mail through SpamAssassin instead of procmail.) http://www.rogerbinns.com/isbg/ IMO, the easiest thing to do would be to use fetchmail to grab mail from the inbox and pass it to procmail. Then you need to find/write a delivery agent that can store messages in a remote IMAP folder. In the procmail rules, you pipe the messages into that deilvery agent to store them in appropriate IMAP folders on the server. -- Grant Edwards grante Yow! I want to mail a at bronzed artichoke to visi.comNicaragua! -- gentoo-user@lists.gentoo.org mailing list
Re: [gentoo-user] Re: Mail on multiple laptops
Grant Edwards wrote: And how do I configure Mutt to use download/sync IMAP? Mutt isn't really intended to download/sync IMAP (I presume you're referring to offline usage). Mutt is intended to be used online -- to be connected to an IMAP server while you're using it. The whole point of IMAP is that you don't download all your mail. You leave it on the server. I've read about MUAs who are supposed to maintain a local mirror of all of the mail and sync it periodically with the server, but I've never met anybody who actually uses IMAP that way. I use IMAP that way. Nothing worse than trying to get stuff done on the plane and not having access to the email though you can see all the headers. Thunderbird allows you to choose folders for offline sync and you can tell it to use all of them and automatically add new folders to the offline sync list. Sucks the first time you sync a large maildir, but much more useful if you're offline or traveling quite a bit. If you're using Mutt I'd look into offlineimap http://www.linux.com/feature/133834 kashani -- gentoo-user@lists.gentoo.org mailing list
Re: [gentoo-user] Uwe Thiem
080714 Alan McKinnon wrote: Uwe Thiem passed away on Friday. He will no doubt be remembered by many others, but survives also in my commonplace book of sayings : Uwe Thiem [Gentoo User 080119] : He hit the nail on the finger. -- ,, SUPPORT ___//___, Philip Webb : [EMAIL PROTECTED] ELECTRIC /] [] [] [] [] []| Centre for Urban Community Studies TRANSIT`-O--O---' University of Toronto -- gentoo-user@lists.gentoo.org mailing list
Re: [gentoo-user] Mail on multiple laptops
* Michael Pobega ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) [15.07.08 17:44]: On Tue, Jul 15, 2008 at 08:00:22AM -0700, Michael Higgins wrote: Can I use procmail with IMAP or is that not possible? And how do I configure Mutt to use download/sync IMAP? Maybe you should take a look at imapfilter. I use this to sort my email on my imap server: run by a cronjob on my server or from within mutt with a hotkey which just fires of imapfilter. HTH Sebastian -- Religion ist das Opium des Volkes. Karl Marx [EMAIL PROTECTED]@N GÜNTHER mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] pgpH0HVZeDop0.pgp Description: PGP signature
Re: [gentoo-user] Re: Backdown from firefox 3 (not enough integration yet)
»Q« ha scritto: On Mon, 14 Jul 2008 19:16:22 +0200 Alan McKinnon [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On Monday 14 July 2008, Harry Putnam wrote: What is my best option to back down to the last 2.X of firefox? It appears version 3 does not have compatibility with several addons that I like to use (sitebar being the main one). Is it best done in .../package.provided or some other way? It's not slotted so you can have only one: Not slotted, but you can have both. ~ $ eix -c firefox [I] www-client/mozilla-firefox ([EMAIL PROTECTED]/04/2008): Firefox Web Browser [I] www-client/mozilla-firefox-bin ([EMAIL PROTECTED]/17/2008): Firefox Web Browser Found 2 matches. Iff one does not block the other when you emerge. Which is pretty much probable. m. -- gentoo-user@lists.gentoo.org mailing list
Re: [gentoo-user] proper subject lines
--- On Sun, 7/13/08, Volker Armin Hemmann [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: From: Volker Armin Hemmann [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: [gentoo-user] proper subject lines To: gentoo-user@lists.gentoo.org Date: Sunday, July 13, 2008, 11:32 AM On Sonntag, 13. Juli 2008, maxim wexler wrote: Hi group, I would like to raise my voice against the use of overly long subject lines that run out of space on the line provided. what is 'overly long' and what space are you talking about? Infant! The toy box is full and some toys are left behind. Complete sentences are not necessary. A few, well chosen words should suffice and spare the user the nuisance of opening mail that ultimately is of no value to him. so you are opening mails if the subject is a sentence no matter what the sentence is telling you? Buffoon! The sentence is telling me nothing because it ain't all there. -- gentoo-user@lists.gentoo.org mailing list -- gentoo-user@lists.gentoo.org mailing list
[gentoo-user] Re: Mail on multiple laptops
On 2008-07-15, Sebastian G?nther [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: * Michael Pobega ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) [15.07.08 17:44]: On Tue, Jul 15, 2008 at 08:00:22AM -0700, Michael Higgins wrote: Can I use procmail with IMAP or is that not possible? And how do I configure Mutt to use download/sync IMAP? Maybe you should take a look at imapfilter. Bingo. I knew I had seen something like that before, but I couldn't come up with the right set of keywords to find it again. -- Grant Edwards grante Yow! I demand IMPUNITY! at visi.com -- gentoo-user@lists.gentoo.org mailing list
Re: [gentoo-user] DVD and changing permissions
I think I don't need testing on an other OS. It is working flawless here. I have created to iso-images one as data and the other one as video with the following calls: VIDEO: mkisofs -dvd-video -UDF -R -iso-level 1 -v -volid DVD_VIDEO -sysid LINUX -input-charset utf-8 -o ../dvd-video.iso ./ DATA: mkisofs -UDF -R -iso-level 1 -v -volid DVD_DATA -sysid LINUX -input-charset utf-8 -o ../dvd-data.iso ./ I created to mount-points where only root has permissions ls -al ./ drwxr-xr-x 4 billie users72 15. Jul 18:29 . drwx-- 16 billie users 8192 15. Jul 18:22 .. -rw-r--r-- 1 billie users 142530560 15. Jul 18:26 dvd-data.iso -rw-r--r-- 1 billie users 142587904 15. Jul 18:25 dvd-video.iso drwx-- 2 root root 1 15. Jul 18:29 mount-data drwx-- 2 root root 1 15. Jul 18:29 mount-video Then I mounted both the data and the video image as udf and as iso9660 mount -o loop -t udf dvd-video.iso mount-video/ ls -al mount-video/ drwxr-xr-x 4 billie users 136 15. Jul 18:24 . drwxr-xr-x 4 billie users 72 15. Jul 18:29 .. drwxr-xr-x 2 billie users 40 15. Jul 18:24 AUDIO_TS drwxr-xr-x 2 billie users 300 15. Jul 18:24 VIDEO_TS mount -o loop -t iso9660 dvd-video.iso mount-video/ ls -al mount-video/ drwxr-xr-x 4 billie users 2048 15. Jul 18:24 . drwxr-xr-x 4 billie users 72 15. Jul 18:29 .. drwxr-xr-x 2 billie users 2048 15. Jul 18:24 AUDIO_TS drwxr-xr-x 2 billie users 2048 15. Jul 18:24 VIDEO_TS mount -o loop -t udf dvd-data.iso mount-data ls -al mount-data drwxr-xr-x 2 billie users92 15. Jul 18:26 . drwxr-xr-x 4 billie users72 15. Jul 18:29 .. -rw-r--r-- 1 billie users 141672448 15. Jul 18:21 001_cut.mpg mount -o loop -t iso9660 dvd-data.iso mount-data ls -al mount-data drwxr-xr-x 2 billie users 2048 15. Jul 18:26 . drwxr-xr-x 4 billie users72 15. Jul 18:29 .. -rw-r--r-- 1 billie users 141672448 15. Jul 18:21 001_cut.mpg Everything works perfect and the old permissions of the files and folders have been restored. It was jst isoinfo which did not show the permissions: isoinfo -l -i dvd-data.iso Directory listing of / d- 000 2048 Jul 15 2008 [266 02] . d- 000 2048 Jul 15 2008 [266 02] .. -- 000 141672448 Jul 15 2008 [268 00] 001_CUT.MPG;1 isoinfo -l -i dvd-video.iso Directory listing of / d- 000 2048 Jul 15 2008 [274 02] . d- 000 2048 Jul 15 2008 [274 02] .. d- 000 2048 Jul 15 2008 [275 02] AUDIO_TS d- 000 2048 Jul 15 2008 [276 02] VIDEO_TS Directory listing of /AUDIO_TS/ d- 000 2048 Jul 15 2008 [275 02] . d- 000 2048 Jul 15 2008 [274 02] .. Directory listing of /VIDEO_TS/ d- 000 2048 Jul 15 2008 [276 02] . d- 000 2048 Jul 15 2008 [274 02] .. -- 000 6144 Jul 15 2008 [281 00] VIDEO_TS.BUP;1 -- 000 6144 Jul 15 2008 [278 00] VIDEO_TS.IFO;1 -- 000 12288 Jul 15 2008 [ 69466 00] VTS_01_0.BUP;1 -- 000 12288 Jul 15 2008 [284 00] VTS_01_0.IFO;1 -- 000 141672448 Jul 15 2008 [290 00] VTS_01_1.VOB;1 So I also guess this has to be a problem with hal, udev, k3b or even growisofs. The strange thing is that it works manually mounted as iso9960 and not as udf filesystem. So it does not look like a mounting problem. -- gentoo-user@lists.gentoo.org mailing list
Re: [gentoo-user] DVD and changing permissions
Daniel Pielmeier [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: It was jst isoinfo which did not show the permissions: isoinfo -l -i dvd-data.iso Directory listing of / d- 000 2048 Jul 15 2008 [266 02] . d- 000 2048 Jul 15 2008 [266 02] .. -- 000 141672448 Jul 15 2008 [268 00] 001_CUT.MPG;1 isoinfo does not understand UDF and if you don't tell it to use Rock Ridge, it will be limited to the missing permissions from plain ISO-9660 Jörg -- EMail:[EMAIL PROTECTED] (home) Jörg Schilling D-13353 Berlin [EMAIL PROTECTED](uni) [EMAIL PROTECTED] (work) Blog: http://schily.blogspot.com/ URL: http://cdrecord.berlios.de/old/private/ ftp://ftp.berlios.de/pub/schily -- gentoo-user@lists.gentoo.org mailing list
Re: [gentoo-user] DVD and changing permissions
Joerg Schilling schrieb: Daniel Pielmeier [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: It was jst isoinfo which did not show the permissions: isoinfo -l -i dvd-data.iso Directory listing of / d- 000 2048 Jul 15 2008 [266 02] . d- 000 2048 Jul 15 2008 [266 02] .. -- 000 141672448 Jul 15 2008 [268 00] 001_CUT.MPG;1 isoinfo does not understand UDF and if you don't tell it to use Rock Ridge, it will be limited to the missing permissions from plain ISO-9660 Jörg You are right something like this isoinfo -l -R -i dvd-video.iso did the trick. The -R flag prints the informations from the rock ridge extension. By the way would you recommend those commands for creating dvd-video material, or should there be something changed. I mean it should be most compatible. Playable on PC and standalone players and different operating systems. Iso creation: mkisofs -dvd-video -UDF -R -iso-level 1 -v -volid DVD_VIDEO -sysid LINUX -input-charset utf-8 -o ../dvd-video.iso ./ Burning: cdrecord dev=0,1,0 speed=8 driveropts=burnfree fs=16m -sao -eject -v dvd-video.iso Regards, daniel -- gentoo-user@lists.gentoo.org mailing list
Re: [gentoo-user] No progress indicator in bootsplash
On Tue, Jul 15, 2008 at 12:27 AM, Nikos Chantziaras [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: kernel /boot/vmlinuz-2.6.25-gentoo-r6 root=/dev/sdc1 video=uvesafb:1280x1024-32,mtrr:3,ywrap splash=silent,fadein,fadeout,theme:gentoo console=tty1 BOOT_MSG=Cool, huh? softlevel=native In my experience, if you user custom messages (like your Cool, huh?), the progress bar disappears. The same happened to me if I edited the keywords SPLASH_BOOT_MESSAGE, SPLASH_REBOOT_MESSAGE and SPLASH_SHUTDOWN_MESSAGE in /etc/conf.d/splash. Hope it helps. Canek -- Fred Allen - Television is a medium because anything well done is rare. -- gentoo-user@lists.gentoo.org mailing list
[gentoo-user] eee pc query
I've got one of these Asus EEEPc's and I'm thinking about installing gentoo on it as the (xubuntu) distro isn't really up to par with gentoo IMHO. I'm not worried about messing things up as I can just re-image it with the supplied discs if something goes wrong but I do have a couple of questions. I've seen people writing about using USB sticks etc to install, I was just wondering, is there anything stopping me from just scp'ing across the stage3 and portage tarballs, extracting them somewhere and chrooting in. Then I should be able to complete the install from the chroot (although using distcc to speed up compilation times). Does anyone know why this might not be a good idea? Thanks Matt -- gentoo-user@lists.gentoo.org mailing list
Re: [gentoo-user] DVD and changing permissions
Dale wrote: Now we are cooking. W O!!! Check this out: [EMAIL PROTECTED] / # ls -al /media/hdd/ total 1898079 dr-xr-xr-x 2 root root 2048 2008-07-15 04:47 . drwxr-xr-x 5 root root224 2008-07-15 05:31 .. -r--r--r-- 1 root root 1943630336 2008-07-10 14:38 portage_2008.07.10-14.27.04_1.tar [EMAIL PROTECTED] / # mount /dev/hda6 on / type reiserfs (rw) proc on /proc type proc (rw) sysfs on /sys type sysfs (rw,nosuid,nodev,noexec) udev on /dev type tmpfs (rw,nosuid) devpts on /dev/pts type devpts (rw,nosuid,noexec) /dev/hda1 on /boot type ext2 (rw) /dev/hda7 on /usr/portage type reiserfs (rw) /dev/hda8 on /home type reiserfs (rw) /dev/hda9 on /data type reiserfs (rw) /dev/hdb1 on /backup type ext3 (rw) none on /dev/shm type tmpfs (rw) usbfs on /proc/bus/usb type usbfs (rw,noexec,nosuid,devmode=0664,devgid=85) binfmt_misc on /proc/sys/fs/binfmt_misc type binfmt_misc (rw,noexec,nosuid,nodev) /dev/hdd on /media/hdd type iso9660 (rw) [EMAIL PROTECTED] / # That is cool. How do I fix this? New kernel? Can I just use this for all my DVD's including those with HUGE files? I have some that are just under 4Gbs. Thanks Dale :-) :-) I updated my kernel to linux-2.6.25-gentoo-r6 with a new set of issues. To burn a DVD now, I have to manually unmount the DVD first. I plan to re-emerge hal and friends to see if that will help any. Anyway, I burned a fresh DVD and now I get this: [EMAIL PROTECTED] / # ls -al /media/ total 7 drwxr-xr-x 6 root root 272 2008-07-15 17:03 . drwxr-xr-x 24 root root 560 2008-07-15 11:29 .. drwxrwxr-x 2 root users 48 2006-10-25 06:23 floppy -rw-r--r-- 1 root root96 2008-07-15 17:03 .hal-mtab -rw--- 1 root root 0 2008-07-15 16:47 .hal-mtab-lock drwxrwxr-x 2 dale cdrom 48 2008-07-14 07:44 hdc drwxrwxr-x 2 dale cdrom 48 2008-07-14 07:45 hdd -rw-r--r-- 1 root root 0 2008-07-12 01:48 .keep_sys-apps_hal-0 dr-xr-xr-x 2 dale root 2048 2008-07-15 16:56 portage_2008.07.10-14.27.04_1 [EMAIL PROTECTED] / # mount /dev/hda6 on / type reiserfs (rw) proc on /proc type proc (rw) sysfs on /sys type sysfs (rw,nosuid,nodev,noexec) udev on /dev type tmpfs (rw,nosuid,size=10240k,mode=755) devpts on /dev/pts type devpts (rw,nosuid,noexec,gid=5,mode=620) /dev/hda1 on /boot type ext2 (rw) /dev/hda7 on /usr/portage type reiserfs (rw) /dev/hda8 on /home type reiserfs (rw) /dev/hda9 on /data type reiserfs (rw) /dev/hdb1 on /backup type ext3 (rw) none on /dev/shm type tmpfs (rw) usbfs on /proc/bus/usb type usbfs (rw,noexec,nosuid,devmode=0664,devgid=85) binfmt_misc on /proc/sys/fs/binfmt_misc type binfmt_misc (rw,noexec,nosuid,nodev) /dev/hdd on /media/portage_2008.07.10-14.27.04_1 type iso9660 (rw,nosuid,nodev,noatime,uid=1000,utf8) [EMAIL PROTECTED] / # So it appears to be a kernel issue that in newer versions has been fixed. Now the next issue, what's up with k3b not being able to unmount the DVD so it can burn a new one? Thanks for all the help. Oh, KDE loaded up just fine with this new kernel. Same load up times as the older version I was using. Ideas on the unmount issue are welcome. Dale :-) :-) -- gentoo-user@lists.gentoo.org mailing list
Re: [gentoo-user] eee pc query
On Tue, 15 Jul 2008 22:47:15 +0100, Matt Harrison wrote: I've seen people writing about using USB sticks etc to install, I was just wondering, is there anything stopping me from just scp'ing across the stage3 and portage tarballs, extracting them somewhere and chrooting in. Then I should be able to complete the install from the chroot (although using distcc to speed up compilation times). The installed xandros doesn't have chroot (or rsync) so you'd have to install those first. I downloaded an eeexbuntu ISO on my desktop and ran the script on it to create a bootable USB stick, although I actually used an SD card, then booted from that and installed Gentoo in the usual way. -- Neil Bothwick Don't take life too seriously, you won't get out alive. signature.asc Description: PGP signature
Re: [gentoo-user] eee pc query
On Tue, Jul 15, 2008 at 6:47 PM, Matt Harrison [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I've got one of these Asus EEEPc's and I'm thinking about installing gentoo on it as the (xubuntu) distro isn't really up to par with gentoo IMHO. I'm not worried about messing things up as I can just re-image it with the supplied discs if something goes wrong but I do have a couple of questions. I've seen people writing about using USB sticks etc to install, I was just wondering, is there anything stopping me from just scp'ing across the stage3 and portage tarballs, extracting them somewhere and chrooting in. Then I should be able to complete the install from the chroot (although using distcc to speed up compilation times). Does anyone know why this might not be a good idea? I simply installed a whole chroot in my main machine to do the compiling, then rsynced the whole chroot to / on the EEE. I used the default xandros to create a simple live SD to boot and rsync for the first time, after that, the system is ready and the SD became backup storage space. You can still compile stuff using your main machine, and rsync the changes back to the EEE, saving a LOT of compile time. Simple, fast (you don't want the EEE to compile X and compiz stuff, it is really slow). And you save the space, cause you don't need to rsync the portage tree and/or kernel sources, etc. -- Daniel da Veiga -- gentoo-user@lists.gentoo.org mailing list
Re: [gentoo-user] DVD and changing permissions
Dale wrote: Dale wrote: Now we are cooking. W O!!! Check this out: [EMAIL PROTECTED] / # ls -al /media/hdd/ total 1898079 dr-xr-xr-x 2 root root 2048 2008-07-15 04:47 . drwxr-xr-x 5 root root224 2008-07-15 05:31 .. -r--r--r-- 1 root root 1943630336 2008-07-10 14:38 portage_2008.07.10-14.27.04_1.tar [EMAIL PROTECTED] / # mount /dev/hda6 on / type reiserfs (rw) proc on /proc type proc (rw) sysfs on /sys type sysfs (rw,nosuid,nodev,noexec) udev on /dev type tmpfs (rw,nosuid) devpts on /dev/pts type devpts (rw,nosuid,noexec) /dev/hda1 on /boot type ext2 (rw) /dev/hda7 on /usr/portage type reiserfs (rw) /dev/hda8 on /home type reiserfs (rw) /dev/hda9 on /data type reiserfs (rw) /dev/hdb1 on /backup type ext3 (rw) none on /dev/shm type tmpfs (rw) usbfs on /proc/bus/usb type usbfs (rw,noexec,nosuid,devmode=0664,devgid=85) binfmt_misc on /proc/sys/fs/binfmt_misc type binfmt_misc (rw,noexec,nosuid,nodev) /dev/hdd on /media/hdd type iso9660 (rw) [EMAIL PROTECTED] / # That is cool. How do I fix this? New kernel? Can I just use this for all my DVD's including those with HUGE files? I have some that are just under 4Gbs. Thanks Dale :-) :-) I updated my kernel to linux-2.6.25-gentoo-r6 with a new set of issues. To burn a DVD now, I have to manually unmount the DVD first. I plan to re-emerge hal and friends to see if that will help any. Anyway, I burned a fresh DVD and now I get this: SNIP So it appears to be a kernel issue that in newer versions has been fixed. Now the next issue, what's up with k3b not being able to unmount the DVD so it can burn a new one? Thanks for all the help. Oh, KDE loaded up just fine with this new kernel. Same load up times as the older version I was using. Ideas on the unmount issue are welcome. Dale :-) :-) Well, it worked the first time at least. Back to the drawing board. :-( I re-emerged hal and it umounts just fine now. Can someone tell me things to try to narrow down what the problem is exactly? I'm will to try some things if it will help. You may have to hold my hand a little tho. Any more ideas? Dale -- gentoo-user@lists.gentoo.org mailing list
Re: [gentoo-user] Uwe Thiem
Uwe Thiem [Gentoo User 080119] : He hit the nail on the finger. Suggest adding that to fortune. -- gentoo-user@lists.gentoo.org mailing list
[gentoo-user] no beep in console
Hi list, I have been trying to get the console beep working on 2 laptops (one with a SIS and one with an Intel sound card). pcspkr is compiled as a kernel module on both laptops and shows as loaded in lspci, but I don't get any beeps either in the text console nor in X. Both laptops used to run Debian and issued beeps in console mode on double tab in bash, etc. I did modify any files to disable beeps, and yes I have unmuted all sound controls. Also tried unloading alsa, but this did not resolve the issue either. Does anyone know how I can get this working again? Thanks, Peter -- gentoo-user@lists.gentoo.org mailing list
[gentoo-user] Firefox is currently in offline mode and can't browse the Web
I installed a new Gentoo installation, and now when I open Firefox I get: Firefox is currently in offline mode and can't browse the Web. The browser is operating in its offline mode and cannot connect to the requested item. * Is the computer connected to an active network? * Place the browser in online mode and try again. My computer is surely connected to an active network, I can wget without problems, and of course I can go to the File menu and switch off the stupid Offline mode, but I don't want to do that every time I start Firefox, so why does he put me in this mode in the first place? What can I do to have Firefox start normally, like it does in Debian? It's a pity that Linux applications start to behave more and more like MS-Windows ones - they do what THEY think is best instead of letting the user do what he wants. I want to browse the web and I am online, while the stupid program thinks I am offline, and prevents me to browse the web. -- Miernik http://miernik.name/ -- gentoo-user@lists.gentoo.org mailing list
Re: [gentoo-user] Firefox is currently in offline mode and can't browse the Web
On Wed, Jul 16, 2008 at 06:22:45AM +0200, Miernik wrote: I installed a new Gentoo installation, and now when I open Firefox I get: Firefox is currently in offline mode and can't browse the Web. The browser is operating in its offline mode and cannot connect to the requested item. * Is the computer connected to an active network? * Place the browser in online mode and try again. My computer is surely connected to an active network, I can wget without problems, and of course I can go to the File menu and switch off the stupid Offline mode, but I don't want to do that every time I start Firefox, so why does he put me in this mode in the first place? What can I do to have Firefox start normally, like it does in Debian? It's a pity that Linux applications start to behave more and more like MS-Windows ones - they do what THEY think is best instead of letting the user do what he wants. I want to browse the web and I am online, while the stupid program thinks I am offline, and prevents me to browse the web. -- Miernik http://miernik.name/ -- gentoo-user@lists.gentoo.org mailing list Do you compile your filefox with networkmanager USE flag? oahong -- Hong Hao[EMAIL PROTECTED] -- gentoo-user@lists.gentoo.org mailing list
[gentoo-user] Re: Firefox is currently in offline mode and can't browse the Web
Hong Hao [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Do you compile your filefox with networkmanager USE flag? Hmm, I don't know, there is nothing like that in flags: przehyba ~ # emerge -pv mozilla-firefox These are the packages that would be merged, in order: Calculating dependencies... done! [ebuild R ] www-client/mozilla-firefox-3.0-r1 USE=bindist dbus ipv6 startup-notification xulrunner -gnome -iceweasel -java -mozdevelop -restrict-javascript LINGUAS=-af -ar -be -ca -cs -da -de -el -en -en_GB -en_US -es -es_AR -es_ES -eu -fi -fr -fy -fy_NL -ga -ga_IE -gu -gu_IN -he -hu -id -it -ja -ka -ko -ku -lt -mk -mn -nb -nb_NO -nl -nn -nn_NO -pa -pa_IN -pl -pt -pt_BR -pt_PT -ro -ru -si -sk -sl -sq -sr -sv -sv_SE -tr -uk -zh -zh_CN -zh_TW 0 kB Total: 1 package (1 reinstall), Size of downloads: 0 kB przehyba ~ # przehyba ~ # cat /etc/make.conf | grep network przehyba ~ # przehyba ~ # cat /etc/portage/package.use | grep network przehyba ~ # Should I, or shouldn't I add any flag? -- Miernik http://miernik.name/ -- gentoo-user@lists.gentoo.org mailing list
Re: [gentoo-user] no beep in console
Peter Wood wrote: Hi list, I have been trying to get the console beep working on 2 laptops (one with a SIS and one with an Intel sound card). pcspkr is compiled as a kernel module on both laptops and shows as loaded in lspci Presumably you mean lsmod. lspci shows you PCI devices (which the PC speaker usually won't show up as) while lsmod shows you loaded kernel modules. Running `lsmod | grep pcspkr` should show if the module is loaded, which is what I suspect you have already verified. udev system may load the pcspkr module automatically (if it's not user-blacklisted) or it could be loaded automatically through system configuration. , but I don't get any beeps either in the text console nor in X. Both laptops used to run Debian and issued beeps in console mode on double tab in bash, etc. I did modify any files to disable beeps, and yes I have unmuted all sound controls. Also tried unloading alsa, but this did not resolve the issue either. Does anyone know how I can get this working again? Thanks, Peter You can try installing the app-misc/beep program which sends a beep to your PC speaker when you call the application `beep` (read the manpage for all sorts of fun you can have with the pitch and length of the beep - I've even sent strings of Morse Code with it.) This should tell you if the problem is a console setting or an issue with the kernel module or the hardware. I'll also note that different X consoles handle the beep differently. For example, the Xfce terminal (simply called Terminal) won't issue a beep when I backspace at a prompt while xterm will. All of my tty consoles will beep with the pcspkr module loaded, and I'm running the Gentoo standard agetty with a linux terminal emulation type for reference. -- Josh signature.asc Description: OpenPGP digital signature
Re: [gentoo-user] Re: Firefox is currently in offline mode and can't browse the Web
On Wed, Jul 16, 2008 at 07:14:49AM +0200, Miernik wrote: Hmm, I don't know, there is nothing like that in flags: przehyba ~ # emerge -pv mozilla-firefox These are the packages that would be merged, in order: Calculating dependencies... done! [ebuild R ] www-client/mozilla-firefox-3.0-r1 USE=bindist dbus ipv6 startup-notification xulrunner -gnome -iceweasel -java -mozdevelop -restrict-javascript LINGUAS=-af -ar -be -ca -cs -da -de -el -en -en_GB -en_US -es -es_AR -es_ES -eu -fi -fr -fy -fy_NL -ga -ga_IE -gu -gu_IN -he -hu -id -it -ja -ka -ko -ku -lt -mk -mn -nb -nb_NO -nl -nn -nn_NO -pa -pa_IN -pl -pt -pt_BR -pt_PT -ro -ru -si -sk -sl -sq -sr -sv -sv_SE -tr -uk -zh -zh_CN -zh_TW 0 kB Total: 1 package (1 reinstall), Size of downloads: 0 kB przehyba ~ # przehyba ~ # cat /etc/make.conf | grep network przehyba ~ # przehyba ~ # cat /etc/portage/package.use | grep network przehyba ~ # Should I, or shouldn't I add any flag? -- Miernik http://miernik.name/ -- gentoo-user@lists.gentoo.org mailing list I'm not sure, If you have NetworkManger installed, try to stop the service. This might help: http://support.mozilla.com/tiki-view_forum_thread.php?locale=en-USforumId=1comments_parentId=60433 oahong -- Hong Hao[EMAIL PROTECTED] /dev/null pgp: 0x37F34C16 -- gentoo-user@lists.gentoo.org mailing list
