Re: [Gimp-user] Thumbnail viewer

2004-08-16 Thread Linux GIMP
On 16 Aug 2004 00:56:41 +0200
Sven Neumann [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote the words:

 Hi,
 
 Linux GIMP [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:
 
  Ah, yes they are.  And they are set to large if that makes a
  difference.
   I wasn't actually aware until now that this was the place to turn
   them
  off, as opposed to simply determining what size they would be.
 
 Hmm, them being set to large could be a problem. gthumb wouldn't
 implement the spec properly then but I could imagine that perhaps it
 looks for thumbnails in size normal only. If that turns out to be
 causing your problem, you should file a bug report against gthumb.
 
 
 Sven

Then I will have to experiment when I get a chance.  I'll try setting
them to small/normal and see what happens.  Thanks for the idea.

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Re: [Gimp-user] Thumbnail viewer

2004-08-15 Thread Linux GIMP
On 14 Aug 2004 18:18:42 +0200
Sven Neumann [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote the words:
 
 Are you using GIMP2 at all? Is thumbnailing enabled in the GIMP
 preferences?
 
 
 Sven

Thumbnailing is enabled.  I see all my thumbnails just fine in the open
file dialogue of Gimp.  Also I have the ~/.thumbnails/ directory.  
Thanks for the link to the thumbnail management standard pages.

I am on Gimp 2.0.4 now.  Until yesterday I was using 2.0.2.

When you say is thumbnailing enabled in the GIMP preferences? may I
ask 'exactly' where that would be at.  I have gone thru all the
preferences settings, and anyplace that relates to thumbnail size or
such it is enabled.  But it wouldn't be the first time I have missed the
obvious.

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Re: [Gimp-user] Thumbnail viewer

2004-08-15 Thread Carol Spears
On Sun, Aug 15, 2004 at 10:36:09AM -0600, Linux GIMP wrote:
 
 When you say is thumbnailing enabled in the GIMP preferences? may I
 ask 'exactly' where that would be at.  I have gone thru all the
 preferences settings, and anyplace that relates to thumbnail size or
 such it is enabled.  But it wouldn't be the first time I have missed the
 obvious.
 
File --Preferences --Environment

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Re: [Gimp-user] Thumbnail viewer

2004-08-15 Thread Linux GIMP
On Sun, 15 Aug 2004 12:09:22 -0700
Carol Spears [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote the words:

 On Sun, Aug 15, 2004 at 10:36:09AM -0600, Linux GIMP wrote:
  
  When you say is thumbnailing enabled in the GIMP preferences? may
  I ask 'exactly' where that would be at.  I have gone thru all the
  preferences settings, and anyplace that relates to thumbnail size or
  such it is enabled.  But it wouldn't be the first time I have missed
  the obvious.
  
 File --Preferences --Environment
 
 carol

Ah, yes they are.  And they are set to large if that makes a difference.
 I wasn't actually aware until now that this was the place to turn them
off, as opposed to simply determining what size they would be.
Thank you.
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Re: [Gimp-user] Thumbnail viewer

2004-08-15 Thread Sven Neumann
Hi,

Linux GIMP [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:

 Ah, yes they are.  And they are set to large if that makes a difference.
  I wasn't actually aware until now that this was the place to turn them
 off, as opposed to simply determining what size they would be.

Hmm, them being set to large could be a problem. gthumb wouldn't
implement the spec properly then but I could imagine that perhaps it
looks for thumbnails in size normal only. If that turns out to be
causing your problem, you should file a bug report against gthumb.


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Re: [Gimp-user] Thumbnail viewer

2004-08-14 Thread Michael Schumacher
Linux GIMP wrote:
Talking about thumbnail viewers:  

First off,  I have also searched for a thumbnail viewer that will show
xcf files.  I have GThumb installed (Gentoo box) and it does not show my
xcf file thumbnails.  I have searched for any type of
settings/preferences dialogue but found nothing.
Please note that there is no program other than GIMP that can create 
thumbnails out of XCF files (unless it calls gIMP to load the file, of 
course).

I would also kill for a viewer which can read bzipped files.  I have
huge tiff files which I scan in then manipulate.  I keep in originals
int tif.bz2 format.  The open file dialogue box is the only thingy I
have found capable of generating  showing a thumbnail of these files.
If you saved the file with GIMP, there should be a thumbnail, too.
Any suggestions or hits with the stupid stick that you can send my way?
Are you using a 2.0 version of GIMP?
HTH,
Michael
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Re: [Gimp-user] Thumbnail viewer

2004-08-14 Thread Gary Montalbine
Linux GIMP wrote:
Talking about thumbnail viewers:  

First off,  I have also searched for a thumbnail viewer that will show
xcf files.  I have GThumb installed (Gentoo box) and it does not show my
xcf file thumbnails.  I have searched for any type of
settings/preferences dialogue but found nothing.
I would also kill for a viewer which can read bzipped files.  I have
huge tiff files which I scan in then manipulate.  I keep in originals
int tif.bz2 format.  The open file dialogue box is the only thingy I
have found capable of generating  showing a thumbnail of these files.
Any suggestions or hits with the stupid stick that you can send my way?
As ever I am grateful.
Adrain
I stumbled on Nautilus. A program that shows the thumbnails once I
create them in the open file dialogue box. I can now see a whole
directory of thumbnails.
Nautilus might be the file manager for gnome.
Gary
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Re: [Gimp-user] Thumbnail viewer

2004-08-14 Thread Linux GIMP
On Sat, 14 Aug 2004 08:30:18 -0400
Gary Montalbine [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote the words:

 Linux GIMP wrote:
  Talking about thumbnail viewers:  
  
  First off,  I have also searched for a thumbnail viewer that will
  show xcf files.  I have GThumb installed (Gentoo box) and it does
  not show my xcf file thumbnails.  I have searched for any type of
  settings/preferences dialogue but found nothing.
  
  I would also kill for a viewer which can read bzipped files.  I have
  huge tiff files which I scan in then manipulate.  I keep in
  originals int tif.bz2 format.  The open file dialogue box is the
  only thingy I have found capable of generating  showing a thumbnail
  of these files.
  
  Any suggestions or hits with the stupid stick that you can send my
  way?
  
  As ever I am grateful.
  Adrain
  
 
 I stumbled on Nautilus. A program that shows the thumbnails once I 
 create them in the open file dialogue box. I can now see a whole 
 directory of thumbnails.
 
 Nautilus might be the file manager for gnome.
 
 Gary

You are correct that Nautilus is a file manager for Gnome.  I have it
installed and just played around with it.  It shows thumbnails for
neither xcf files nor tif.bz2 files, even though I have created
thumbnails for those images in Gimp via the open file dialogue box.

But you say this works on your system??  So I wonder what could be the
difference . . .

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Re: [Gimp-user] Thumbnail viewer

2004-08-14 Thread Linux GIMP
On Sat, 14 Aug 2004 08:01:48 +0200
Michael Schumacher [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote the words:

 Linux GIMP wrote:
 
  Talking about thumbnail viewers:  
  
  First off,  I have also searched for a thumbnail viewer that will
  show xcf files.  I have GThumb installed (Gentoo box) and it does
  not show my xcf file thumbnails.  I have searched for any type of
  settings/preferences dialogue but found nothing.
 
 Please note that there is no program other than GIMP that can create 
 thumbnails out of XCF files (unless it calls gIMP to load the file, of
 course).

I see.  I rather suspected this was true, but had no actually evidence
one way or the other.

  I would also kill for a viewer which can read bzipped files.  I have
  huge tiff files which I scan in then manipulate.  I keep in
  originals int tif.bz2 format.  The open file dialogue box is the
  only thingy I have found capable of generating  showing a thumbnail
  of these files.
 
 If you saved the file with GIMP, there should be a thumbnail, too.
 
Ok, here is a question I have, where exactly would this thumbnail be
saved to?  Is there one directory for all or is it in a subdirectory of
the directory where the images are?  I was under the impression it was
the latter, but this does not seem to be true as there are no thumbnail
directories in my image directories. 

  Any suggestions or hits with the stupid stick that you can send my
  way?
 
 Are you using a 2.0 version of GIMP?

I have been using 2.0.2 / Gentoo.  I have just now (I mean just now)
upgraded to 2.0.4 and I'm off to play with that.
 
 HTH,
 Michael
 
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Re: [Gimp-user] Thumbnail viewer

2004-08-14 Thread Gary Montalbine
Linux GIMP wrote:
You are correct that Nautilus is a file manager for Gnome.  I have it
installed and just played around with it.  It shows thumbnails for
neither xcf files nor tif.bz2 files, even though I have created
thumbnails for those images in Gimp via the open file dialogue box.
But you say this works on your system??  So I wonder what could be the
difference . . .
I am using kde 3.2.3 and ML 10.0. I have a sub directory called 
family that has 85 files consisiting of jpg and xcf files. All but 
three showed thumbnails. 2 xcf and 1 jpg file did not. Why I have no 
idea. I also have a .xvpics subdirectory in this family 
subdirectory that has jpg and xcf files. Where it came from or what 
it is supposed to do I have no idea. Nautilus said the files were of 
an unknown format.

Sorry I could not be of furthur help. My knowledge is limited to 
trial and error.

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Re: [Gimp-user] Thumbnail viewer

2004-08-14 Thread Sven Neumann
Hi,

Linux GIMP [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:

 Ok, here is a question I have, where exactly would this thumbnail be
 saved to?  Is there one directory for all or is it in a subdirectory of
 the directory where the images are?  I was under the impression it was
 the latter, but this does not seem to be true as there are no thumbnail
 directories in my image directories. 

See http://triq.net/~pearl/thumbnail-spec/


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Re: [Gimp-user] Thumbnail viewer

2004-08-14 Thread Sven Neumann
Hi,

Linux GIMP [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:

 You are correct that Nautilus is a file manager for Gnome.  I have it
 installed and just played around with it.  It shows thumbnails for
 neither xcf files nor tif.bz2 files, even though I have created
 thumbnails for those images in Gimp via the open file dialogue box.

Are you using GIMP2 at all? Is thumbnailing enabled in the GIMP
preferences?


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Re: [Gimp-user] Thumbnail viewer

2004-08-14 Thread Sven Neumann
Hi,

Gary Montalbine [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:

 I am using kde 3.2.3 and ML 10.0. I have a sub directory called
 family that has 85 files consisiting of jpg and xcf files. All but
 three showed thumbnails. 2 xcf and 1 jpg file did not. Why I have no
 idea. I also have a .xvpics subdirectory in this family subdirectory
 that has jpg and xcf files. Where it came from or what it is supposed
 to do I have no idea. Nautilus said the files were of an unknown
 format.

These XCF files have probably been written using an old version of
GIMP. Start gimp-2.0, go to the File-Open dialog, select all files in
this directory and click on the Preview area in order to have
thumbnails created for all selected files.


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Re: [Gimp-user] Thumbnail viewer

2004-08-13 Thread Gary Montalbine
Sven Neumann wrote:
Hi,

GIMP creates thumbnails according to the Thumbnail Managing Standard.
Any application that adheres to this standard should be able to show
you thumbnails for images that GIMP created (in whatever format).

I forgot to add that GThumb belongs to that category. It shows
thumbnails that GIMP created just fine. I am using gthumb 2.4.1 here.
Sven
This has been a bad day. Nothing worked. With my limited knowledge
of Gimp and Gthumb I am totally confused. First I was unable to
upgrade Gthumb to 2.4 from 2.2. I tried an rpm and tar. Also I do
not understand about gimp creating thumbnails. When I open a .xcf
file using gimp I can make a thumbnail. I also see the thumbnail in
Document history. However there is no thumbnail when I try to open
the same xcf file in gthumb. It shows a size of 0x0 pixels  and 266k
bytes. I use gimp mostly for photo editing and am just a novice at
that. Perhaps I am in the wrong forum for a thumbnails discussion.
Thanks for your time.
Gary
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Re: [Gimp-user] Thumbnail viewer

2004-08-13 Thread Carol Spears
On Fri, Aug 13, 2004 at 07:25:35AM -0400, Gary Montalbine wrote:
 
 This has been a bad day. Nothing worked. With my limited knowledge
 of Gimp and Gthumb I am totally confused. First I was unable to
 upgrade Gthumb to 2.4 from 2.2. I tried an rpm and tar. Also I do
 not understand about gimp creating thumbnails. When I open a .xcf
 file using gimp I can make a thumbnail. I also see the thumbnail in
 Document history. However there is no thumbnail when I try to open
 the same xcf file in gthumb. It shows a size of 0x0 pixels  and 266k
 bytes. I use gimp mostly for photo editing and am just a novice at
 that. Perhaps I am in the wrong forum for a thumbnails discussion.
 
did you try Dialogs --Document history (with gimp which is already
installed on your computer)?

carol

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Re: [Gimp-user] Thumbnail viewer

2004-08-13 Thread Linux GIMP
Talking about thumbnail viewers:  

First off,  I have also searched for a thumbnail viewer that will show
xcf files.  I have GThumb installed (Gentoo box) and it does not show my
xcf file thumbnails.  I have searched for any type of
settings/preferences dialogue but found nothing.

I would also kill for a viewer which can read bzipped files.  I have
huge tiff files which I scan in then manipulate.  I keep in originals
int tif.bz2 format.  The open file dialogue box is the only thingy I
have found capable of generating  showing a thumbnail of these files.

Any suggestions or hits with the stupid stick that you can send my way?

As ever I am grateful.
Adrain


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[Gimp-user] Thumbnail viewer

2004-08-12 Thread Gary Montalbine
I am looking for a thumbnail viewer that will show my .xcf gimp 
files in a directory without going into gimp. I tried Gthumb and 
GQview. Imagemagic is beyond my command line capability. I 
especially like the slide show capability of Gthumb.

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Re: [Gimp-user] Thumbnail viewer

2004-08-12 Thread Sven Neumann
Hi,

Gary Montalbine [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:

 I am looking for a thumbnail viewer that will show my .xcf gimp files
 in a directory without going into gimp. I tried Gthumb and
 GQview. Imagemagic is beyond my command line capability. I especially
 like the slide show capability of Gthumb.

GIMP creates thumbnails according to the Thumbnail Managing Standard.
Any application that adheres to this standard should be able to show
you thumbnails for images that GIMP created (in whatever format).


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Re: [Gimp-user] Thumbnail viewer

2004-08-12 Thread Sven Neumann
Hi,

 GIMP creates thumbnails according to the Thumbnail Managing Standard.
 Any application that adheres to this standard should be able to show
 you thumbnails for images that GIMP created (in whatever format).

I forgot to add that GThumb belongs to that category. It shows
thumbnails that GIMP created just fine. I am using gthumb 2.4.1 here.


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Re: [Gimp-user] Thumbnail viewer

2004-08-12 Thread Sven Neumann
Hi,

Carol Spears [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:

 gimp2 has a Document History dialog.  this is confusing windows-speak
 that means Image History.  i am very sorry about the change in the
 naming of things from smart to stupid like this,

Imaqe History would probably be a better name but I don't think you
ever suggested that before. Why not? Needless to rant on the user list
when you could be doing helpful suggestions instead.


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Re: [Gimp-user] Thumbnail viewer

2004-08-12 Thread Carol Spears
On Fri, Aug 13, 2004 at 12:39:29AM +0200, Sven Neumann wrote:
 Hi,
 
 Carol Spears [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:
 
  gimp2 has a Document History dialog.  this is confusing windows-speak
  that means Image History.  i am very sorry about the change in the
  naming of things from smart to stupid like this,
 
 Imaqe History would probably be a better name but I don't think you
 ever suggested that before. Why not? Needless to rant on the user list
 when you could be doing helpful suggestions instead.
 
confusing windows speak is not a rant, it is an identifier. and this
identifier helps to understand it when the same problem comes up with
later problems.

what you mailed is a rant.  demanding that i dont give long term help.

i was surprised that the windows-speak entered onto my linux box.

i am also uncertain when and where these decisions are made.  so you are
ranting at a user dealing with changes made to her computer.  please
stop.

one day, i will probably wake up to find a My Computer icon on my
linux box users desktop.  i will not rant, i will probably quit and let
the stupidity take over.  not a rant -- a plan.  a seeing into the
future that i hope is really really wrong.

as always, nice responding to your response.  the gimp is cool, thanks
for all the documents.

carol

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