Re: Support for MVS/SP 3.2.2 on zSeries???
BK, just out of curiosity, in what country is the company you've acquired located? - - - - - Timothy F. Sipples Consulting Enterprise Software Architect, z9/zSeries IBM Japan, Ltd. E-Mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with the message: GET IBM-MAIN INFO Search the archives at http://bama.ua.edu/archives/ibm-main.html
Re: Alternative to mvsqr, was: Bringing the fun back to z/OS - new course
Receiving a fair price on any product requires a *credible* market alternative in *your* particular situation. Things that bring credibility to the discussion: - a project actually underway to switch from one vendor to another I would consider it a strategic error to stick with a vendor that has forced you to that extreme. If the project is already underway then, IMHO, you are better of proceeding to switch. That's the likely outcome, yes. But I didn't phrase that bullet in sufficient detail. Let's suppose there are three vendors: Vendor A, Vendor B, and Vendor C. Your company has products from Vendors A and B installed but, currently, no products from Vendor C. Your company is 12+ months from contract expiration with Vendor A. If you have a project underway to switch one product from Vendor B to Vendor C, that might put the fear of God into Vendor A and thus demonstrate that you are perfectly capable of switching, especially if Vendor C is the likely beneficiary. Otherwise a vendor may not view a switching threat as credible. - - - - - Timothy F. Sipples Consulting Enterprise Software Architect, z9/zSeries IBM Japan, Ltd. E-Mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with the message: GET IBM-MAIN INFO Search the archives at http://bama.ua.edu/archives/ibm-main.html
Re: dynamic PAV
- snip - In the initial setup we defined in HCD base (3390B) and alias (3390A) volumes with wlmpav=yes (for the aliases). - snip - Do you have WLMPAV=YES for the base volumes, too? Zaromil -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with the message: GET IBM-MAIN INFO Search the archives at http://bama.ua.edu/archives/ibm-main.html
Re: dynamic PAV
Ted MacNEIL wrote: What am I missing to allow dynamic management of pav's? Do you have I/O Priority Management turned on? It seems basic, but without it two things happen: 1. Execution Velocity is calculated with only CPU values. 2. PAV is not dynamic. Where is the switch to turn I/O Priority Management on ? -- Radoslaw Skorupka Lodz, Poland -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with the message: GET IBM-MAIN INFO Search the archives at http://bama.ua.edu/archives/ibm-main.html
Re: dynamic PAV
Where is the switch to turn I/O Priority Management on ? IIRC on the same screen as where you define the SDC's for CPU, SRB, MSO IOC. - -teD I’m an enthusiastic proselytiser of the universal panacea I believe in! -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with the message: GET IBM-MAIN INFO Search the archives at http://bama.ua.edu/archives/ibm-main.html
Re: dynamic PAV
Ted MacNEIL wrote: Where is the switch to turn I/O Priority Management on ? IIRC on the same screen as where you define the SDC's for CPU, SRB, MSO IOC. Silly me. I was looking for it on HMC... Thank you both Ted and Zaromil -- Radoslaw Skorupka Lodz, Poland -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with the message: GET IBM-MAIN INFO Search the archives at http://bama.ua.edu/archives/ibm-main.html
Re: z8 ???
IFLs, zAAPs, etc., subject to the usual rule that the number of any type of speciality engines may not exceed the number of OS engines. That rule only applies to zAAPs and (according to the press release) zIIPs, not the other types of engines. Using a System z9-109 as an example, all of these configurations are valid: 0 CPs, 54 IFLs, 0 ICFs, 0 zAAPs, 0 zIIPs, 0 extra SAPs 8 CPs, 12 IFLs, 1 ICF, 8 zAAPs, 8 zIIPs, 1 extra SAP 2 CPs, 8 IFLs, 3 ICFs, 2 zAAPs, 2 zIIPs, 3 extra SAPs and so on. As you can see, you can double count the CPs for zAAP and zIIP purposes. In other words, the rules are: zAAPs = CPs zIIPs = CPs but these rules are independent of one another. On the z890 (where zAAPs are relevant) a subcapacity CP counts. For example, you can configure a z890 Model 210 (a model with two CPs running at slowest possible speed) with two full zAAPs. (The zAAPs always run at maximum hardware speed, as with the other speciality engine types.) The z890 has extra interesting and attractive Java economics, to say the least. - - - - - Timothy F. Sipples Consulting Enterprise Software Architect, z9/zSeries IBM Japan, Ltd. E-Mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with the message: GET IBM-MAIN INFO Search the archives at http://bama.ua.edu/archives/ibm-main.html
PDS unload
Guys, I've scanned the archives, RTFM's etc. I want to unload a RECFM=80, FB PDS into a QSAM(FB,80) , IEBCOPY keeps creating a VS dataset. I have seen the output I want It's where each member is one after the other with a name card for the member its was before it. I've done it before but I just can't seem to remember what I did. Help! Gerry This communication is for informational purposes only. It is not intended as an offer or solicitation for the purchase or sale of any financial instrument or as an official confirmation of any transaction. All market prices, data and other information are not warranted as to completeness or accuracy and are subject to change without notice. Any comments or statements made herein do not necessarily reflect those of JPMorgan Chase Co., its subsidiaries and affiliates. -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with the message: GET IBM-MAIN INFO Search the archives at http://bama.ua.edu/archives/ibm-main.html
Re: PDS unload
IEBUPDTE is what you are looking for. -Original Message- From: IBM Mainframe Discussion List [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Gerry Anstey Sent: Wednesday, April 05, 2006 12:26 PM To: IBM-MAIN@BAMA.UA.EDU Subject: PDS unload Guys, I've scanned the archives, RTFM's etc. I want to unload a RECFM=80, FB PDS into a QSAM(FB,80) , IEBCOPY keeps creating a VS dataset. I have seen the output I want It's where each member is one after the other with a name card for the member its was before it. I've done it before but I just can't seem to remember what I did. Help! Gerry This communication is for informational purposes only. It is not intended as an offer or solicitation for the purchase or sale of any financial instrument or as an official confirmation of any transaction. All market prices, data and other information are not warranted as to completeness or accuracy and are subject to change without notice. Any comments or statements made herein do not necessarily reflect those of JPMorgan Chase Co., its subsidiaries and affiliates. -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with the message: GET IBM-MAIN INFO Search the archives at http://bama.ua.edu/archives/ibm-main.html -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with the message: GET IBM-MAIN INFO Search the archives at http://bama.ua.edu/archives/ibm-main.html
Re: PDS unload
- Original Message From: Gerry Anstey [EMAIL PROTECTED] I want to unload a RECFM=80, FB PDS into a QSAM(FB,80) , IEBCOPY keeps creating a VS dataset. I have seen the output I want It's where each member is one after the other with a name card for the member its was before it. I've done it before but I just can't seem to remember what I did. Help! Gerry, are you sure you didn't use the TSO XMIT command to unload the PDS file ? XMIT can be used for this purpose, too. Walter Marguccio -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with the message: GET IBM-MAIN INFO Search the archives at http://bama.ua.edu/archives/ibm-main.html
Re: OAM question
Mark, There is an entry in the TCDB for the ejected volume. You can deelte it from the TCDB/Volume Catalog using IDCAMS DELETE (Vvolser) VOLENT you should be able to use this in ISMF mounteable tape volume list and substitute / for the volser. If you want the TCDB entries removed when volumes are ejected, you can change the library default eject option to Purge. Mike WoodRMM Development -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with the message: GET IBM-MAIN INFO Search the archives at http://bama.ua.edu/archives/ibm-main.html
Re: Support for MVS/SP 3.2.2 on zSeries???
I believe another question to ask is what are the applications running on this system. I worked on a Realtime Tracking system using MVT and then MVS where they had used many of the IBM spare control block fields for things. In that case it was ugly to upgrade. If the applications are just everyday code, then there is a possibility for upward compatibility. It can't be too custom if they are accepting a date back in 1990's and probably postprocessing everything to get it current. Sounds like an interesting challenge. Jim Marshall -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with the message: GET IBM-MAIN INFO Search the archives at http://bama.ua.edu/archives/ibm-main.html
Re: PDS unload
Try something like this: //* //S1 EXEC PGM=IEBPTPCH //SYSINDD * PUNCH TYPORG=PO ,OUTODR=DIR //SYSUT1 DD DSN=C01738.ASM,DISP=SHR //SYSUT2 DD DISP=(NEW,PASS), // UNIT=SYSDA,SPACE=(TRK,(100,100),RLSE), // DCB=(RECFM=FBA,LRECL=81,BLKSIZE=8100) //SYSPRINT DD SYSOUT=* //* //S2 EXEC PGM=IEBGENER //SYSINDD * GENERATE MAXFLDS=20 RECORD FIELD=(80,2,,1) //SYSUT1 DD DSN=*.S1.SYSUT2,DISP=(OLD,DELETE) //SYSUT2 DD DSN=C01738.ASM.PU,DISP=(NEW,CATLG), // UNIT=SYSDA,SPACE=(TRK,(100,100),RLSE), // DCB=(RECFM=FB,LRECL=80,BLKSIZE=3120) //SYSPRINT DD SYSOUT=* On 4/5/2006, Gerry Anstey [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Guys, I've scanned the archives, RTFM's etc. I want to unload a RECFM=80, FB PDS into a QSAM(FB,80) , IEBCOPY keeps creating a VS dataset. I have seen the output I want It's where each member is one after the other with a name card for the member its was before it. I've done it before but I just can't seem to remember what I did. Help! Gerry This communication is for informational purposes only. It is not intended as an offer or solicitation for the purchase or sale of any financial instrument or as an official confirmation of any transaction. All market prices, data and other information are not warranted as to completeness or accuracy and are subject to change without notice. Any comments or statements made herein do not necessarily reflect those of JPMorgan Chase Co., its subsidiaries and affiliates. -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with the message: GET IBM-MAIN INFO Search the archives at http://bama.ua.edu/archives/ibm-main.html -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with the message: GET IBM-MAIN INFO Search the archives at http://bama.ua.edu/archives/ibm-main.html
Re: Looking for SRB sample in PL/I or COBOL
Hi Denis, You cannot directly invoke an SRB from PL/I or COBOL so you would need to call a routine installed into the system previously that would be an authorized service provider to schedule an SRB for your problem state PL/I or COBOL program. Why do you want to invoke an SRB? PL/I and COBOL both can access a lot of z/OS services designed to be called by high level languages and some that are not even if a small assembler glue module is required. If you can explain what you need maybe someone can give you a better answer. Best Regards, Sam Knutson, GEICO Performance and Availability Management mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] (office) 301.986.3574 Ohh... it's not always easy to know what to do. H. Bogart -Original Message- From: IBM Mainframe Discussion List [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Denis Gaebler Sent: Wednesday, April 05, 2006 7:47 AM To: IBM-MAIN@BAMA.UA.EDU Subject: Looking for SRB sample in PL/I or COBOL Hi List, does anyone have a very basic sample on how to invoke a SRB from PL/I or COBOL language? Any help would be appreciated. Thanks. Denis Gaebler. This email/fax message is for the sole use of the intended recipient(s) and may contain confidential and privileged information. Any unauthorized review, use, disclosure or distribution of this email/fax is prohibited. If you are not the intended recipient, please destroy all paper and electronic copies of the original message. -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with the message: GET IBM-MAIN INFO Search the archives at http://bama.ua.edu/archives/ibm-main.html
Re: Looking for SRB sample in PL/I or COBOL
The service calls to schedule an SRB rae only available from an assembler routine. In addition, in order to schedule and SRB the caller must be authorized, ie. APF authorized, running in a system key or supervisor state, all attributes rarely assigned to COBOL or PL/I programs. Wayne Driscoll Product Developer JME Software LLC NOTE: All opinions are strictly my own. -Original Message- From: IBM Mainframe Discussion List [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Denis Gaebler Sent: Wednesday, April 05, 2006 6:47 AM To: IBM-MAIN@bama.ua.edu Subject: Looking for SRB sample in PL/I or COBOL Hi List, does anyone have a very basic sample on how to invoke a SRB from PL/I or COBOL language? Any help would be appreciated. Thanks. Denis Gaebler. ___ Try the New Netscape Mail Today! Virtually Spam-Free | More Storage | Import Your Contact List http://mail.netscape.com -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with the message: GET IBM-MAIN INFO Search the archives at http://bama.ua.edu/archives/ibm-main.html -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with the message: GET IBM-MAIN INFO Search the archives at http://bama.ua.edu/archives/ibm-main.html
Re: 2105 Question
In a message dated 4/4/2006 8:26:56 P.M. Central Daylight Time, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: The 3990-6 accepts PPRC commands, but you cannot specify the LSS parm. The LSS parm was not part of the original implementation, as I recall. My experience with the 3990-6 did not involve trying to use the LSS parm. By the time that parm was available, I had moved elsewhere and onto different projects. Bill Fairchild -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with the message: GET IBM-MAIN INFO Search the archives at http://bama.ua.edu/archives/ibm-main.html
Re: Looking for SRB sample in PL/I or COBOL
Hi List, thanks for the responses so far. It was just an idea, if there was a possibility to move some CPU intensiv pieces of code out to the upcoming zIIP processors (requires SRB envlave mode). In our shop the main cost driver is CPU. Nevertheless, I assume there are more issues waiting, if calling routines as SRB. In high level languages it would be hardly possible to ensure the SRB restrictions such as not calling SVCs etc. Not to mention the authorization issues for normal programs. If that were possible I would have continued to investigate if SRBs could be used in IMS transactions. Some of our IMS transactions do a lot of scanning of in memory tables, which requires a lot of CPU. Since this pieces of code just do memory work, I thought that were candidates for SRBs, since those code sections do not use any IMS services or SVCs. Thanks for your responses. Denis Gaebler. -Original Message- From: Binyamin Dissen [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: IBM-MAIN@BAMA.UA.EDU Sent: Wed, 5 Apr 2006 15:23:38 +0300 Subject: Re: Looking for SRB sample in PL/I or COBOL On Wed, 5 Apr 2006 07:47:27 -0400 Denis Gaebler [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: :does anyone have a very basic sample on how to invoke a SRB from PL/I :or COBOL language? No. But why would you? What kind of SRB service would be required by a high-level language routine? -- Binyamin Dissen [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://www.dissensoftware.com Director, Dissen Software, Bar Grill - Israel Should you use the mailblocks package and expect a response from me, you should preauthorize the dissensoftware.com domain. I very rarely bother responding to challenge/response systems, especially those from irresponsible companies. -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with the message: GET IBM-MAIN INFO Search the archives at http://bama.ua.edu/archives/ibm-main.html ___ Try the New Netscape Mail Today! Virtually Spam-Free | More Storage | Import Your Contact List http://mail.netscape.com -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with the message: GET IBM-MAIN INFO Search the archives at http://bama.ua.edu/archives/ibm-main.html
Re: Disaster Recovery, order of things
In [EMAIL PROTECTED], on 04/04/2006 at 08:21 AM, Longnecker, Dennis [EMAIL PROTECTED] said: And, of course, any other thoughts? As a final step dump you backup load library if it's not available from the DR facility, your TMC and all critical catalog. -- Shmuel (Seymour J.) Metz, SysProg and JOAT ISO position; see http://patriot.net/~shmuel/resume/brief.html We don't care. We don't have to care, we're Congress. (S877: The Shut up and Eat Your spam act of 2003) -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with the message: GET IBM-MAIN INFO Search the archives at http://bama.ua.edu/archives/ibm-main.html
Re: How do you train your Z machine operation stuff?
In [EMAIL PROTECTED], on 04/04/2006 at 10:01 AM, Itschak Mugzach [EMAIL PROTECTED] said: We tried all of them. It didn't work for us. We are trying the carrot lane now... There's a hole-in-the-wall in Haifa that sells sufganyoth that are to die[1] for. If they learn, you give them some. If they don't learn, you eat the whole bag in front of them. [1] For those with Cholesterol problems, perhaps literally. But they taste great. -- Shmuel (Seymour J.) Metz, SysProg and JOAT ISO position; see http://patriot.net/~shmuel/resume/brief.html We don't care. We don't have to care, we're Congress. (S877: The Shut up and Eat Your spam act of 2003) -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with the message: GET IBM-MAIN INFO Search the archives at http://bama.ua.edu/archives/ibm-main.html
Re: Machine Instructions by Mnemonic - footnote N3
In [EMAIL PROTECTED], on 02/01/2005 at 08:26 PM, Charles Mills [EMAIL PROTECTED] said: In spite of your :-) is that not how some of the floating point simulation works or used to work? VM uses a similar strategy for simulating privileged instructions for guests, catching the 0C2. No; there never is an 0C2. CP catches the initial program interrupt. BTW, OS/360 did the same thing for PI 01 on the 360/91, to simulate missing instructions, and so did the commercial instruction feature of the 360/44. -- Shmuel (Seymour J.) Metz, SysProg and JOAT ISO position; see http://patriot.net/~shmuel/resume/brief.html We don't care. We don't have to care, we're Congress. (S877: The Shut up and Eat Your spam act of 2003) -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with the message: GET IBM-MAIN INFO Search the archives at http://bama.ua.edu/archives/ibm-main.html
Re: Tabs, etc. in 327x data stream
In [EMAIL PROTECTED], on 04/04/2006 at 10:08 AM, Paul Gilmartin [EMAIL PROTECTED] said: (after some stumbling around with manuals and terminal) ITYM ISPF; 0; Environ; TERMSTAT, right? Yes, and it's been a real friend over the years ;-) -- Shmuel (Seymour J.) Metz, SysProg and JOAT ISO position; see http://patriot.net/~shmuel/resume/brief.html We don't care. We don't have to care, we're Congress. (S877: The Shut up and Eat Your spam act of 2003) -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with the message: GET IBM-MAIN INFO Search the archives at http://bama.ua.edu/archives/ibm-main.html
Re: SVC Screening -- again
Doesn't the method shown (below) offer considerable difficulties if, say, a third bit of vendor software adds itself to the pile using the same technique? If you don't think so, then imagine what will happen when vendor #2 trips its abend routine and decides to back itself out. The BEST it can manage would be to return the environment to the state it found it in... which won't do vendor #3 any good at all (actually it will cause vendor #3 some harm, as well as the customer) and it might even mess up vendor #1. Consider that vendor #1 might have code that would otherwise make dynamic changes to its SVC screening table -- except that vendor #2 has supplanted it so #1's table isn't hooked to anything anymore. There ought to be a better way... On Tue, 4 Apr 2006 15:34:54 -0700, Ray Mullins wrote: If you mean the old save-the-current-address-and-stick-my-address-in-the-table-and-then-pass- control-to-the-old-routine-when-I'm-done-with-it method... A product that utilizes SVC screening should check to see if screening is already in place, i.e., the existence of a screening table in the TCB. It should then save the address of the already existing routine somewhere in its storage, store its address in the screening area, save the current table, and flip on the bits for the SVC that it wants to screen - and not flip off any bits. Then, if its code gets control for an SVC that it isn't expecting, it knows that there is another screening routine that might want it, so it should pass it on to the routine whose address it saved at initialization. And for SVCs that the new routine does screen, when it's done it should then check the old SVC screening table to see if the prior SVC routine wants it. -Original Message- Subject: SVC Screening -- again I searched the archives for SVC screening posts and saw quite a few postings regarding when to use it and what to use it for. What I am looking for (and didn't find in the archives) is how multiple screening programs are implemented. For example, what if products from different vendors want to do SVC screening on the same TCB? Is there a de facto method that vendors use similar to the one used for front-ending SVC's? -- Tom Schmidt Madison, WI -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with the message: GET IBM-MAIN INFO Search the archives at http://bama.ua.edu/archives/ibm-main.html
Re: Looking for help offlist
Shmuel (Seymour J.) Metz wrote: In [EMAIL PROTECTED], on 04/04/2006 at 11:26 AM, Steve Comstock [EMAIL PROTECTED] said: It's time to look for alternatives. I've had one billable day all year and nothing on the books for the rest of my life. Time to move on, I guess. Damn! From the questions here there's certainly a need for what you do, but if management isn't willing to pay for it then you need to look out for yourself and your family. Anyone have any leads for me to do temp or contract work? I wish I did; I've been looking since 2003. Good luck. Thanks. I'll keep everyone posted. Kind regards, -Steve -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with the message: GET IBM-MAIN INFO Search the archives at http://bama.ua.edu/archives/ibm-main.html
Any details on this migration
Does anybody have any details on the size of the IBM mainframe that was replaced in this migration? http://www.itwire.com.au/content/view/3825/49/ -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with the message: GET IBM-MAIN INFO Search the archives at http://bama.ua.edu/archives/ibm-main.html
Re: Looking for SRB sample in PL/I or COBOL
-Original Message- From: IBM Mainframe Discussion List [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Denis Gaebler Sent: Wednesday, April 05, 2006 7:37 AM To: IBM-MAIN@BAMA.UA.EDU Subject: Re: Looking for SRB sample in PL/I or COBOL Hi List, thanks for the responses so far. It was just an idea, if there was a possibility to move some CPU intensiv pieces of code out to the upcoming zIIP processors (requires SRB envlave mode). In our shop the main cost driver is CPU. Nevertheless, I assume there are more issues waiting, if calling routines as SRB. In high level languages it would be hardly possible to ensure the SRB restrictions such as not calling SVCs etc. Not to mention the authorization issues for normal programs. If that were possible I would have continued to investigate if SRBs could be used in IMS transactions. Some of our IMS transactions do a lot of scanning of in memory tables, which requires a lot of CPU. Since this pieces of code just do memory work, I thought that were candidates for SRBs, since those code sections do not use any IMS services or SVCs. Thanks for your responses. Denis Gaebler. Why not get a zAAP and use Java? Java is not really all that bad to program it. And the compiler is free as is the run time (JVM). Now, without a zAAP, forget it. It is CPU intensive (compared to COBOL or PL/I). The current COBOL can INVOKE a JAVA class. -- John McKown Senior Systems Programmer UICI Insurance Center Information Technology This message (including any attachments) contains confidential information intended for a specific individual and purpose, and its content is protected by law. If you are not the intended recipient, you should delete this message and are hereby notified that any disclosure, copying, or distribution of this transmission, or taking any action based on it, is strictly prohibited. -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with the message: GET IBM-MAIN INFO Search the archives at http://bama.ua.edu/archives/ibm-main.html
Re: Looking for SRB sample in PL/I or COBOL
There are additional requirements for running on zIIP processors than simply running in SRB mode. The SRB will have to be associated with a WLM enclave, and it will need to be marked as zIIP eligible and as of yet, the API's do to this have not been disclosed to the public by IBM. Remember that zIIP processors were designed with DB2 in mind. Wayne Driscoll Product Developer JME Software LLC NOTE: All opinions are strictly my own. -Original Message- From: IBM Mainframe Discussion List [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Denis Gaebler Sent: Wednesday, April 05, 2006 7:37 AM To: IBM-MAIN@bama.ua.edu Subject: Re: Looking for SRB sample in PL/I or COBOL Hi List, thanks for the responses so far. It was just an idea, if there was a possibility to move some CPU intensiv pieces of code out to the upcoming zIIP processors (requires SRB envlave mode). In our shop the main cost driver is CPU. Nevertheless, I assume there are more issues waiting, if calling routines as SRB. In high level languages it would be hardly possible to ensure the SRB restrictions such as not calling SVCs etc. Not to mention the authorization issues for normal programs. If that were possible I would have continued to investigate if SRBs could be used in IMS transactions. Some of our IMS transactions do a lot of scanning of in memory tables, which requires a lot of CPU. Since this pieces of code just do memory work, I thought that were candidates for SRBs, since those code sections do not use any IMS services or SVCs. Thanks for your responses. Denis Gaebler. -Original Message- From: Binyamin Dissen [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: IBM-MAIN@BAMA.UA.EDU Sent: Wed, 5 Apr 2006 15:23:38 +0300 Subject: Re: Looking for SRB sample in PL/I or COBOL On Wed, 5 Apr 2006 07:47:27 -0400 Denis Gaebler [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: :does anyone have a very basic sample on how to invoke a SRB from PL/I :or COBOL language? No. But why would you? What kind of SRB service would be required by a high-level language routine? -- Binyamin Dissen [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://www.dissensoftware.com Director, Dissen Software, Bar Grill - Israel Should you use the mailblocks package and expect a response from me, you should preauthorize the dissensoftware.com domain. I very rarely bother responding to challenge/response systems, especially those from irresponsible companies. -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with the message: GET IBM-MAIN INFO Search the archives at http://bama.ua.edu/archives/ibm-main.html ___ Try the New Netscape Mail Today! Virtually Spam-Free | More Storage | Import Your Contact List http://mail.netscape.com -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with the message: GET IBM-MAIN INFO Search the archives at http://bama.ua.edu/archives/ibm-main.html -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with the message: GET IBM-MAIN INFO Search the archives at http://bama.ua.edu/archives/ibm-main.html
Re: dynamic PAV
Hi Dennis, I know for us Dynamic PAV just did not work unless we had both I/O priority management Dynamic alias management set to YES in WLM. Service Coefficient/Service Definition Options Command === __ Enter or change the Service Coefficients: CPU . . . . . . . . . . . . . 1.0 (0.0-99.9) IOC . . . . . . . . . . . . . 0.1 (0.0-99.9) MSO . . . . . . . . . . . . . 0. (0.-99.) SRB . . . . . . . . . . . . . 1.0 (0.0-99.9) Enter or change the service definition options: I/O priority management . . . . . . . . YES (Yes or No) Dynamic alias management . . . . . . . . YES (Yes or No) Best Regards, Sam Knutson, GEICO Performance and Availability Management mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] (office) 301.986.3574 Think big, act bold, start simple, grow fast... -Original Message- From: IBM Mainframe Discussion List [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Dennis Leong Sent: Tuesday, April 04, 2006 5:20 PM To: IBM-MAIN@BAMA.UA.EDU Subject: dynamic PAV We recently migrated all our mainframe data to a new Hitachi storage array (9990v). In the initial setup we defined in HCD base (3390B) and alias (3390A) volumes with wlmpav=yes (for the aliases). On the storage array we have Compatible PAV enabled.In WLM we have Dynamic alias management set to yes. We are running z/os 1.4 and wlm in goal mode. My problem is that I cannot see any dynamic assignment of alias volumes to base volumes with high IOS queuing times. Using HDS Storage Navigator's Compatible PAV manager I see the first 64 base volumes (out of 192) with 1 alias volume in each of my control units. I have yet to see anything change over the past 4 weeks. I would have expected to see maybe a base volume (beyond the first 64) to have an alias assigned especially if the base volume has high ios queuing times (as seen in Omegamon). I can however manually assign alias volumes to base but this is not dynamic management. What am I missing to allow dynamic management of pav's? Thank you. - enD sin This email/fax message is for the sole use of the intended recipient(s) and may contain confidential and privileged information. Any unauthorized review, use, disclosure or distribution of this email/fax is prohibited. If you are not the intended recipient, please destroy all paper and electronic copies of the original message. -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with the message: GET IBM-MAIN INFO Search the archives at http://bama.ua.edu/archives/ibm-main.html
Re: How do you train your Z machine operation stuff?
On Tue, 4 Apr 2006 09:37:12 +0200, Itschak Mugzach [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I am looking for some hints, PowerPoint, etc. on how to train our operations. Thanks for your advise. Haven't looked at it myself, but I understand ResourceLink has an operator training module for zSeries processors. -Rob Wunderlich -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with the message: GET IBM-MAIN INFO Search the archives at http://bama.ua.edu/archives/ibm-main.html
Re: dfsflgx0 COMMIT problem
There are lots of parts to this The x'37' record is the QMGR sync point record. I am assuming your Fastpath work is not Fastpath exclusive ... that is you do not use EMH (Expedited Message Handler) From the database stand point is your work exclusivly Fastpath or mixed (Fathpath and full function). Both Fastpath and full function log prior to sync point completion, but Fastpath may defer phyisical database updates until after Syncpoint. This is one of the things that makes Fastpath 'fast' the dependent region is available to process the next unit of work, prior to the previous unit of work being externalized ... but this assumes you are running in a Fastpath exclusive region and have not gone into the overflow buffers. The x'5937' record is a fastpath sync point. A x'37' can occur after a x'5937' because a x'31' (DLI Get Unique) marks the begining of a unit of work. At x'31' time IMS does not know if there will be updates or not ... crystal ball technology has never been built into the the product. IMS assumes the x'31' marks a period of time it might have to back out to dynamicly in the case of an application failure or as part of restart in the case of an IMS crash. The time of the x'31' is recorded in IMS' restart table / dataset until such time as it is removed. What removes it? A sync point ie x'37'. Even non updateing batch work in IMS should take checkpoints for this reason. Now to complicate things even more within a fast path DEDB there is a special type of segment for Batch Sequencial Dependent Processing. Externalization of this data is processed diffrently than usual fastpath management as both logging and writing might be defered. The idea is a operator may be entering a batch of documents ... the data base record represents the batch, each occurance in the Sequencial Dependent Segment is a document (member of the batch) To handle this common bank back office condition with improved performance IMS Fastpath provides special support for this segment type. What is not clear to me is why your replication process is dependent on the sync point records at all. I would guess you should be obtaining the changed information from the x'5x' records full function or the x'595x' records fastpath. In the rare instance where the work does not reach syncpoint because of an abend or roll back but the updates have been logged there will be corresponding records recording the backout. You should contact the IMS-L listserver about this or you can talk to me off line. The IMS-L group has about 500 members and only a fraction of them know much about log record types and processing. I am somewhat out of practice my self but in the early 80's I designed the log analysis methods used by the Candle (now IBM) family of Omegamon IMS products. -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with the message: GET IBM-MAIN INFO Search the archives at http://bama.ua.edu/archives/ibm-main.html
Time Synchronization Latency
Hello, I have a general question regarding the time synchronization across heterogeneous servers that span thousands of miles apart from each other. I have a large sysplex and distributed server environment, utilizing an IP network. I have an NTP instance running on several of my MF servers, in which the distributed servers call to obtain the time. This works fairly well as there are not great distances between servers. However, as more companies are building-out locations that are further apart in distances, the latency may prove unacceptable. An example where this may be important is during troubleshooting, where review of logs, etc maybe necessary. If timestamps aren't tightly-coupled, it becomes more difficult to piece together the picture that led up to an issue. My question(s) are then: 1) what options are available to maintain time synchronization? I've heard of several that may have merit (GPS, satellite, purchase of own atomic clock). 2) how are other companies dealing with this? 3) is there a best-practice established for time synchronization? Thank you. -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with the message: GET IBM-MAIN INFO Search the archives at http://bama.ua.edu/archives/ibm-main.html
Re: Looking for SRB sample in PL/I or COBOL
Remember that zIIP processors were designed with DB2 in mind. Wayne Driscoll Product Developer JME Software LLC NOTE: All opinions are strictly my own. Fancy that. So was MVS/XA. :) Todd -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with the message: GET IBM-MAIN INFO Search the archives at http://bama.ua.edu/archives/ibm-main.html
Re: PDS unload
That's the one, thanks GA [EMAIL PROTECTED] M.AU To: IBM-MAIN@BAMA.UA.EDU Sent by: IBM cc: MainframeSubject: Re: PDS unload Discussion List [EMAIL PROTECTED] .EDU 05/04/2006 12:26 Please respond to IBM Mainframe Discussion List Try something like this: //* //S1 EXEC PGM=IEBPTPCH //SYSINDD * PUNCH TYPORG=PO ,OUTODR=DIR //SYSUT1 DD DSN=C01738.ASM,DISP=SHR //SYSUT2 DD DISP=(NEW,PASS), // UNIT=SYSDA,SPACE=(TRK,(100,100),RLSE), // DCB=(RECFM=FBA,LRECL=81,BLKSIZE=8100) //SYSPRINT DD SYSOUT=* //* //S2 EXEC PGM=IEBGENER //SYSINDD * GENERATE MAXFLDS=20 RECORD FIELD=(80,2,,1) //SYSUT1 DD DSN=*.S1.SYSUT2,DISP=(OLD,DELETE) //SYSUT2 DD DSN=C01738.ASM.PU,DISP=(NEW,CATLG), // UNIT=SYSDA,SPACE=(TRK,(100,100),RLSE), // DCB=(RECFM=FB,LRECL=80,BLKSIZE=3120) //SYSPRINT DD SYSOUT=* This communication is for informational purposes only. It is not intended as an offer or solicitation for the purchase or sale of any financial instrument or as an official confirmation of any transaction. All market prices, data and other information are not warranted as to completeness or accuracy and are subject to change without notice. Any comments or statements made herein do not necessarily reflect those of JPMorgan Chase Co., its subsidiaries and affiliates. -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with the message: GET IBM-MAIN INFO Search the archives at http://bama.ua.edu/archives/ibm-main.html
Re: PDS unload
Gerry, If you have SAS in shop, then try PROC SOURCE. It will unload a PDS and create IEBUPDTE control cards in the offloaded file. Lizette -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with the message: GET IBM-MAIN INFO Search the archives at http://bama.ua.edu/archives/ibm-main.html
Re: PDS unload
(Sorry if this appears twice. I sent it to the Newsgroup, first, instead of to the list.) On 5 Apr 2006 03:51:01 -0700, in bit.listserv.ibm-main (Message-ID:[EMAIL PROTECTED]) [EMAIL PROTECTED] (âãé áï àáé) wrote: IEBUPDTE is what you are looking for. If you also want other LRECLs and/or the ability to keep SPF statistics, see file 093 of the CBT tape. -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with the message: GET IBM-MAIN INFO Search the archives at http://bama.ua.edu/archives/ibm-main.html
Re: Disaster Recovery, order of things
Hello Dennis, On Tue, 4 Apr 2006 08:21:45 -0700, Dennis Longnecker [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Any thoughts on the best way to handle the backup of the various catalogs and RMM files for disaster recovery purposes? TO be specific, I asked Janet Sun, Mainstar's expert on ICF catalogs and how to handle them at the DR site for any additional comments she might have to the ones provided yesterday to your post. Here's what Janet responded with: Here is another way to look at it. The last thing you will do daily is to run the tape management system job which creates the lists of tapes to go offsite. Immediately prior to running that job should be the job which backs up the tape management system database. Immediately prior to that should be the job which backs up your ICF catalogs. Immediately prior to that will be any other backups of system or DR related data sets that you run daily. There should not be any intervening jobs or time delays between these steps. Sometime prior to this the DB2 image copies will have completed. The order of the recovery steps will be to do the full volume restores first, followed by the data set restores of the system data sets (including ICF catalogs and tape management system database), then you can start the DB2 system recoveries, followed by the applications themselves. Best regards, Ron Ferguson Mainstar Software Corporation [EMAIL PROTECTED] www.mainstar.com -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with the message: GET IBM-MAIN INFO Search the archives at http://bama.ua.edu/archives/ibm-main.html
Re: PDS unload
In [EMAIL PROTECTED], on 04/05/2006 at 01:48 PM, [EMAIL PROTECTED] said: IEBUPDTE is what you are looking for. No. He wants a program to do the unload. -- Shmuel (Seymour J.) Metz, SysProg and JOAT ISO position; see http://patriot.net/~shmuel/resume/brief.html We don't care. We don't have to care, we're Congress. (S877: The Shut up and Eat Your spam act of 2003) -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with the message: GET IBM-MAIN INFO Search the archives at http://bama.ua.edu/archives/ibm-main.html
Re: fork on MVS and MVS-Datasets
On 4/5/2006 8:38 AM, JB wrote: I wrote a C-Program on MVS / OS/390 (a Batch Program that runs as a Job under TSO). I will create a new process and I will use MVS-Datasets, which I have allocated in the parent process. It seems, this is a problem under MVS. Datasets doesn't inherited from the child. I have used fork() to create the child. I have tried to use named pipes to process the information from the child to the parent. It doesn't work. How can I handle this problem? I believe you will get better answers to such questions on the MVS-OE mailing list, rather than the IBM-MAIN mailing list, as MVS-OE is more focused on z/OS UNIX topics. If you're not familiar with MVS-OE, see http://www-03.ibm.com/servers/eserver/zseries/zos/unix/bpxa1dis.html Walt -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with the message: GET IBM-MAIN INFO Search the archives at http://bama.ua.edu/archives/ibm-main.html
Re: Time Synchronization Latency
On Wed, 5 Apr 2006 09:40:27 -0500, Curt Thompson [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Hello, I have a general question regarding the time synchronization across heterogeneous servers that span thousands of miles apart from each other. I have a large sysplex and distributed server environment, utilizing an IP network. I have an NTP instance running on several of my MF servers, in which the distributed servers call to obtain the time. This works fairly well as there are not great distances between servers. However, as more companies are building-out locations that are further apart in distances, the latency may prove unacceptable. An example where this may be important is during troubleshooting, where review of logs, etc maybe necessary. If timestamps aren't tightly-coupled, it becomes more difficult to piece together the picture that led up to an issue. My question(s) are then: 1) what options are available to maintain time synchronization? I've heard of several that may have merit (GPS, satellite, purchase of own atomic clock). 2) how are other companies dealing with this? 3) is there a best-practice established for time synchronization? Thank you. It's been a while since I read the manuals, but I seem to recall reading about a process to help address latency within a sysplex. I thought it was for situations where the timers are geographically dispersed with the machines. I thought that same type of process was used to address latency with your external time source. We have our timer call Boulder Colorado once a week to sync the clocks. We can be a couple seconds off and not worry about it. Others have more stringent needs. Once again, it's been a long time since I looked at this stuff, so you should look again. I set it up and it just works. I seem to recall there were 800 numbers you could use and trusted web sites you can use as well. A lot of that was in the manuals, but those are pretty dated by now. I don't think IBM is maintaining the manuals. I believe their direction is away from the 9037 stand alone timers . Good luck. -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with the message: GET IBM-MAIN INFO Search the archives at http://bama.ua.edu/archives/ibm-main.html
Re: Any details on this migration
well, it says a LARGE SCALE systems migration, so that probably means about 50 mips. That's what the alternative platforms consider large. - Original Message - From: John Giltner [EMAIL PROTECTED] Newsgroups: bit.listserv.ibm-main To: IBM-MAIN@BAMA.UA.EDU Sent: Wednesday, April 05, 2006 9:12 AM Subject: Any details on this migration Does anybody have any details on the size of the IBM mainframe that was replaced in this migration? http://www.itwire.com.au/content/view/3825/49/ -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with the message: GET IBM-MAIN INFO Search the archives at http://bama.ua.edu/archives/ibm-main.html -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with the message: GET IBM-MAIN INFO Search the archives at http://bama.ua.edu/archives/ibm-main.html
Re: Looking for SRB sample in PL/I or COBOL
M - I was at a tech presentation by IBM a couple of weeks back. Selection for dispatch on a zIIP is likely to be severely more limited than Wayne intimates. From the IBM FAQ; Eligible work that can be directed to the zIIP are portions of those requests made from the application server, to the host, via SQL calls over a DRDA® over TCP/IP connection. This is _very_ specific - work cannot be selected if generated from the same LPAR for example. Work originating from a Linux LPAR on same CEC (using hipersockets) is o.k. Not all eligible work will be redispatched on the zIIP - this will be decided by IBM (marketing ???) - maybe only 40% will be eligible. It appears the customer (or code) will have no means of influencing this. Star schema parallel queries and some (DB2) utility workloads are also mooted as eligible - in these cases including workloads originating on the same environment. Seems this support is less mature. Shane ... On Wed, 2006-04-05 at 08:51 -0500, Wayne Driscoll wrote: John, As you mentioned the zAAP processor was designed to reduce the licensing of cost of System Z software when using applications coded in java. However, a lot of the workload that IBM is pushing the System Z for isn't written in JAVA such as SAP and Peoplesoft applications. However, these n-Tier applications perform the bulk of their work on System Z via DB2 DRDA requests, which run in enclave SRB's via the DDF address space. However, if you are running a lot of this work, you may find that you need to upgrade your CPU to support this work. By adding one (or more) zIIP processors, this work will get done, without an increase in software licensing. I am assuming that IBM will publish (maybe just to those willing to pay) the API's that will allow those writing system level code to get dispatched in a zIIP, but this is just a guess on my part. -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with the message: GET IBM-MAIN INFO Search the archives at http://bama.ua.edu/archives/ibm-main.html
Re: dynamic PAV
We have the I/O Priority Management set to Yes. I believe I've found the answer. In reviewing our device definitions in HCD, I noticed ONLY the aliases have wlmpav set to yes. The base volumes were set to NO. Thanks. Bob Rutledge [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote in message news:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Ted MacNEIL wrote: This means that WLM will make alias moves that minimize overall IOS queueing, but these moves will not take service class goals into consideration. TOMAY-TOE TOMAW-TOE That is a difference that makes no difference. And, a difference that makes no difference is no difference. If I'm not addressing goals: 1. Will I see it? You might not. Your workloads might or might not. 2. What's the point? The point is that someone observing the storage array's behavior, like Dennis, should see aliases move regardless of the setting. Bob -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with the message: GET IBM-MAIN INFO Search the archives at http://bama.ua.edu/archives/ibm-main.html -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with the message: GET IBM-MAIN INFO Search the archives at http://bama.ua.edu/archives/ibm-main.html
Re: PDS unload
In a recent note, Lizette Koehler said: Date: Wed, 5 Apr 2006 08:01:41 -0700 If you have SAS in shop, then try PROC SOURCE. It will unload a PDS and create IEBUPDTE control cards in the offloaded file. What happens if some of the data records to be unloaded contain apparent IEBUPDTE control card images? How does one escape/ quote/strop input to IEBUPDTE to create records in the target library containing ./ in columns 1-2? -- gil -- StorageTek INFORMATION made POWERFUL -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with the message: GET IBM-MAIN INFO Search the archives at http://bama.ua.edu/archives/ibm-main.html
Re: fork on MVS and MVS-Datasets
On 4/5/2006 12:13 PM, JB wrote: I think, i have found an answer. I use pipe() and all the other terrible things like dynalloc() I handle in the child. After this I read the pipe in the parent. I don't use the UNIX SYSTEM SERVICE. Yes, you do. You're using fork(), and pipe(), and those are UNIX functions. It does not matter if you are running in a traditional batch job, or TSO, or whatever. Those environments have access to UNIX functionality, and you're taking advantage of that in your program. And the best discussion location for that is MVS-OE. Using UNIX does not mean running in a UNIX shell, nor running a program that resides in the UNIX file system. Walt -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with the message: GET IBM-MAIN INFO Search the archives at http://bama.ua.edu/archives/ibm-main.html
Re: Any details on this migration
A little googleing turned up that they went live in January 2005. http://www.move2open.com/m2o-bupa-case-study.pdf At that time, they were looking at a 3 year payback at $2 million per year savings. I guess the project was $6m. Wonder how they are doing? The conversion was from CA-IDEAL to Micro Focus Cobol and the migration of CA-DATACOM to Oracle. http://www.move2open.com/m2o-bupa-success-story.html Given that CA-DATACOM is a '4gl' database, I would suspect that it might not scale well and may have been slurping a lot of horsepower. And, given CA's historic pricing postures. -Original Message- From: IBM Mainframe Discussion List [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of John Giltner Sent: Wednesday, April 05, 2006 8:12 AM To: IBM-MAIN@BAMA.UA.EDU Subject: Any details on this migration Does anybody have any details on the size of the IBM mainframe that was replaced in this migration? http://www.itwire.com.au/content/view/3825/49/ -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with the message: GET IBM-MAIN INFO Search the archives at http://bama.ua.edu/archives/ibm-main.html -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with the message: GET IBM-MAIN INFO Search the archives at http://bama.ua.edu/archives/ibm-main.html
Visual Age PL/1
Does anyone know where I can get information about an IBM product that used to be called Visual Age PL/1 or anything equivalent to it? - Yahoo! Messenger with Voice. PC-to-Phone calls for ridiculously low rates. -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with the message: GET IBM-MAIN INFO Search the archives at http://bama.ua.edu/archives/ibm-main.html
Re: Visual Age PL/1
-Original Message- From: IBM Mainframe Discussion List [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Barry Schwarz Sent: Wednesday, April 05, 2006 2:04 PM To: IBM-MAIN@BAMA.UA.EDU Subject: Visual Age PL/1 Does anyone know where I can get information about an IBM product that used to be called Visual Age PL/1 or anything equivalent to it? Enterprise PL/I on z/OS? Books at: http://publibz.boulder.ibm.com/cgi-bin/bookmgr_OS390/Shelves/IBMSH341 Otherwise, try: http://www-306.ibm.com/software/awdtools/pli/ -- John McKown Senior Systems Programmer UICI Insurance Center Information Technology This message (including any attachments) contains confidential information intended for a specific individual and purpose, and its content is protected by law. If you are not the intended recipient, you should delete this message and are hereby notified that any disclosure, copying, or distribution of this transmission, or taking any action based on it, is strictly prohibited. -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with the message: GET IBM-MAIN INFO Search the archives at http://bama.ua.edu/archives/ibm-main.html
Re: Visual Age PL/1
Barry Schwarz wrote: Does anyone know where I can get information about an IBM product that used to be called Visual Age PL/1 or anything equivalent to it? - Yahoo! Messenger with Voice. PC-to-Phone calls for ridiculously low rates. -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with the message: GET IBM-MAIN INFO Search the archives at http://bama.ua.edu/archives/ibm-main.html I'd contact an IBM'er on the team. Try Peter Elderon [EMAIL PROTECTED] Kind regards, -Steve Comstock -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with the message: GET IBM-MAIN INFO Search the archives at http://bama.ua.edu/archives/ibm-main.html
Re: dynamic PAV
ONLY the aliases have wlmpav set to yes. The base volumes were set to NO. OOPS! Of course, the fact that IBM always insists that you specify options in more than one place, and if you have a mix up, not only does it not tell you, rather it behaves in the worst possible manner, would have nothing to do with this, would it? - -teD O-KAY! BLUE! JAYS! Let's PLAY! BALL! -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with the message: GET IBM-MAIN INFO Search the archives at http://bama.ua.edu/archives/ibm-main.html
Re: PDS unload
On 5 Apr 2006 10:09:19 -0700, in bit.listserv.ibm-main (Message-ID:[EMAIL PROTECTED]) [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: If you have SAS in shop, then try PROC SOURCE. It will unload a PDS and create IEBUPDTE control cards in the offloaded file. What happens if some of the data records to be unloaded contain apparent IEBUPDTE control card images? How does one escape/ quote/strop input to IEBUPDTE to create records in the target library containing ./ in columns 1-2? I don't know if SAS has the capability of properly dealing with ./ in columns 1-2. OFFLOADW PDSLOADW from file 093 of CBT take care of it by changing the ./ to on offload and to ./ on reload. If you have some members with in columns 1-2, these programs would be a bad choice. -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with the message: GET IBM-MAIN INFO Search the archives at http://bama.ua.edu/archives/ibm-main.html
Fw: Visual Age PL/1
VisualAge PL/I for WHAT PLATFORM ??? - If zOS, then it is Enterprise PL/I - If Windows, then it is Websphere Developer for zSeries - If OS/2, then no-where, no-how Barry Schwarz [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote in message news:[EMAIL PROTECTED]... Does anyone know where I can get information about an IBM product that used to be called Visual Age PL/1 or anything equivalent to it? -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with the message: GET IBM-MAIN INFO Search the archives at http://bama.ua.edu/archives/ibm-main.html
Re: Time Synchronization Latency
Paul Gilmartin wrote: In a recent note, Curt Thompson said: Date: Wed, 5 Apr 2006 09:40:27 -0500 companies are building-out locations that are further apart in distances, the latency may prove unacceptable. An example where this may be important is during troubleshooting, where review of logs, etc maybe necessary. If timestamps aren't tightly-coupled, it becomes more difficult to piece together the picture that led up to an issue. But remember the Special Theory of Relativity: If no two systems are out-of-sync by more than the speed-of-light delay between them, there can be no problem to piece together the picture in the logs, because no event on either system can have any effect on the other in less time than that. The very latency that affects syncronizing the clocks equally affects the phenomena you're studying, thus alleviating the ambiguity. Um, yeah, well... Clearly he's talking about delays of at least centiseconds, and probably much more. The speed of light delay around the earth is not much over a tenth of a second, so network and switching delays are what counts here. Tony H. -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with the message: GET IBM-MAIN INFO Search the archives at http://bama.ua.edu/archives/ibm-main.html
Re: Visual Age PL/1
5655-B22 Uses LE as its only run-time library (there was no unique run-time product). The doc is on the IBM CDs last I looked. Announced 1999, withdrawn 2002, according to my records. Charles -Original Message- From: IBM Mainframe Discussion List [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Barry Schwarz Sent: Wednesday, April 05, 2006 12:04 PM To: IBM-MAIN@BAMA.UA.EDU Subject: Visual Age PL/1 Does anyone know where I can get information about an IBM product that used to be called Visual Age PL/1 or anything equivalent to it? - Yahoo! Messenger with Voice. PC-to-Phone calls for ridiculously low rates. -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with the message: GET IBM-MAIN INFO Search the archives at http://bama.ua.edu/archives/ibm-main.html -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with the message: GET IBM-MAIN INFO Search the archives at http://bama.ua.edu/archives/ibm-main.html
Re: Visual Age PL/1
It's on the latest DVD, the z/OS V1R7 DVD: VisualAge PL/I Language Reference Version 2 Release 2 Document Number SC26-9476-00 Program Number 5655-B22 Shelf IBMSSH02 Charles -Original Message- From: IBM Mainframe Discussion List [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Barry Schwarz Sent: Wednesday, April 05, 2006 12:04 PM To: IBM-MAIN@BAMA.UA.EDU Subject: Visual Age PL/1 Does anyone know where I can get information about an IBM product that used to be called Visual Age PL/1 or anything equivalent to it? - Yahoo! Messenger with Voice. PC-to-Phone calls for ridiculously low rates. -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with the message: GET IBM-MAIN INFO Search the archives at http://bama.ua.edu/archives/ibm-main.html -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with the message: GET IBM-MAIN INFO Search the archives at http://bama.ua.edu/archives/ibm-main.html
Re: time-synchronization latency
In a recent note, john gilmore said: Date: Wed, 5 Apr 2006 22:00:49 + Transmission latency is easily measured and corrected for where it is important; and there are both theory and practice for doing so already in place, elaborated for use in adjusting and rationalizing the TAI values generated by the national observatories that form part of the BIPM network. The most difficult case is where the round-trip path is asymmetric: terrestrial in one direction, satellite in the other. NIST dialup, at least, can detect this condition but not analyze it -- it refuses to correct. Relativistic mechanics is more interesting that classical, Newtonian mechanics; but for the foreseeable future its use here is, unfortunately, otiose. The applicable statement of Special Relativity is that no signal can propagate faster than the speed of light. Generalizing this to Tony H's practical case with far greater latencies, the statement becomes, As long as no signal used to coordinate remote processes propagates faster than the signal used to synchronize the clocks (even lacking any correction for propagation delay), no temporal inconsistency can appear among the various logs. -- gil -- StorageTek INFORMATION made POWERFUL -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with the message: GET IBM-MAIN INFO Search the archives at http://bama.ua.edu/archives/ibm-main.html
Re: PDS unload
On Apr 5, 2006, at 5:26 AM, Gerry Anstey wrote: Guys, I've scanned the archives, RTFM's etc. I want to unload a RECFM=80, FB PDS into a QSAM(FB,80) , IEBCOPY keeps creating a VS dataset. I have seen the output I want It's where each member is one after the other with a name card for the member its was before it. I've done it before but I just can't seem to remember what I did. Help! Gerry Gerry, The CBTTAPE has one or two utilities that will do this. Ed -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with the message: GET IBM-MAIN INFO Search the archives at http://bama.ua.edu/archives/ibm-main.html
Re: PDS unload
IEBPTPCH is what you remember. Rob Weiss z/SWITA and z/Series I/T Security and Privacy Consultant IBM Software Group Sales IBM Mainframe Discussion List IBM-MAIN@BAMA.UA.EDU wrote on 04/05/2006 06:25:34 PM: On Apr 5, 2006, at 5:26 AM, Gerry Anstey wrote: Guys, I've scanned the archives, RTFM's etc. I want to unload a RECFM=80, FB PDS into a QSAM(FB,80) , IEBCOPY keeps creating a VS dataset. I have seen the output I want It's where each member is one after the other with a name card for the member its was before it. I've done it before but I just can't seem to remember what I did. Help! Gerry Gerry, The CBTTAPE has one or two utilities that will do this. Ed -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with the message: GET IBM-MAIN INFO Search the archives at http://bama.ua.edu/archives/ibm-main.html -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with the message: GET IBM-MAIN INFO Search the archives at http://bama.ua.edu/archives/ibm-main.html
Re: zIIP (Was: Looking for SRB sample in PL/I or COBOL)
Ted MacNEIL wrote: requests made from the application server, to the host, via SQL calls over a DRDA® over TCP/IP connection. This a marketting decision to determine technical direction! I can make remote procedure calls over SNA! How would the zIIP know (or care)? - -teD O-KAY! BLUE! JAYS! Let's PLAY! BALL! The zIIP may not know, but wouldn't DB2. DRDA goes though the DIST task and it knows if you are SNA or IP. -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with the message: GET IBM-MAIN INFO Search the archives at http://bama.ua.edu/archives/ibm-main.html
Re: Any details on this migration
John Giltner wrote: Does anybody have any details on the size of the IBM mainframe that was replaced in this migration? http://www.itwire.com.au/content/view/3825/49/ I was looking for a bit more details on which box(es) they were running. My shop has decided to migrate most of our applications off of CICS/DB2/IDMS on z/OS. They want to go Linux on Intel running J2EE (Websphere for now) for online and trying to keep Cobol for batch with DB2 with the possibility of replacing DB2 to Oracle) as the DBMS. The applications we are migrating account for about 85-90% of our CPU usage. Our director point to this as see it's possible to migrate a large scale applications off of a IBM mainframe and save money. We are running a 1C7 and 1C3 now and will be upgrading to 304/303 in the next two weeks. In the new world they plan on use blade servers. Two four ways as DB servers and 8 two-ways for application servers (4 for Webshpere and four for batch jobs). -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with the message: GET IBM-MAIN INFO Search the archives at http://bama.ua.edu/archives/ibm-main.html
