Re: [JAWS-Users] Choices for web storage

[Kimsan]

Hahhaha, after I sent that message, I attempted to set it up again, and it
worked!
I have this new linovo laptop but I  could never get it to work on my
Toshiba laptop.

So disregard my last email.
-Original Message-
From: JAWS-Users-List [mailto:jaws-users-list-boun...@jaws-users.com] On
Behalf Of Kimsan
Sent: Thursday, March 10, 2016 8:37 PM
To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] Choices for web storage

For the life of me, I can't get onedrive to work.

People said there is a desktop client, where is it? I just use google drive
for now, but I'd like to get onedrive to work.
I gave up when yall started talking about it right before jim started his
list, I think.
-Original Message-
From: JAWS-Users-List [mailto:jaws-users-list-boun...@jaws-users.com] On
Behalf Of David Ferrin
Sent: Thursday, March 10, 2016 4:24 PM
To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] Choices for web storage

Google drive is not too bad to work with but in my opinion one drive is
easier to navigate. BTW I have both accounts along with drop box.
David Ferrin
A complex system that does not work is invariably found to have evolved from
a simpler system that worked perfectly.
- Original Message -
From: "wayne smith" 
To: 
Sent: Thursday, March 10, 2016 5:16 PM
Subject: [JAWS-Users] Choices for web storage


Hello-

I have a DropBox account with 2 gig of free storage and it is full.  Google
has an account with 15 gig of storage for free.  It is much harder for me to
move around and work in Google Drive, for example.  Is this a JAWS issue or
is DB simply much easier to  work with?  I am using Windows 7 (with no
desire to change) and JAWS 15.  I have later versions if I need them (16 and
17).  Are there Google Drive users or users of other web storage sites with
any thoughts?



Thanks in advance,



Wayne

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Re: [JAWS-Users] [Bulk] Re: [Bulk] Re: defending myself hope this is ok

[Kimsan]

Isn't office 365 subscription like 99 a year?

I would go for that if I didn't have what I have currently, although office
365 keeping it on topic so david will not hit me with a wet noodle, I heard
is accessible to a degree but don't quote me on that.
-Original Message-
From: JAWS-Users-List [mailto:jaws-users-list-boun...@jaws-users.com] On
Behalf Of Zoe Fiogkos
Sent: Thursday, March 10, 2016 3:12 PM
To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] [Bulk] Re: [Bulk] Re: defending myself hope this
is ok

I live in Ontario, as for email clients I'm still trying to figure out wich
one I'm going to go with.  I have used wlm in the past, maybe 7 years ago,
not sure it's been so long.  I'm going to have a look on the weekend at the
stores to see how much the Microsoft bundles go for.  I have literally
thousands of save documents in the word format so I'm thinking I may go for
the office bundle for that reason.  I'm still debating it.  Regardless of
the debate going on about the reading/preview pain I guess I'm one of those
who uses it and I love it.  I've never had a problem with viruses or jaws
and I want to continue using it so outlook looks like the way I'm going to
go.  I know it sounds like I've made up my mind, but it really will depend
on the prices at the store.  From what I gathered my husband has no problem
spending the money if it's going to make my life easier.  Another reason why
i'm considering the Microsoft package is because I guess I will half to
spend more money but I use word in another language and I have the Greek
spell check etc.  I do a lot of writing in Greek and having a spell check is
essential. Sorry for rambling but it's nice to see people care.  Thanks for
everything, take care for now Regards Zoe

-Original Message-
From: JAWS-Users-List [mailto:jaws-users-list-boun...@jaws-users.com] On
Behalf Of Pinky
Sent: March-10-16 2:01 PM
To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
Subject: [Bulk] Re: [JAWS-Users] [Bulk] Re: defending myself hope this is ok

Hi Zoe,
Wow, that quite a deal you have their in Canada. What province do you live
in. I am going to move there. As far as your previous questions go have you
tried using WLM again and see if it will work for you. A lot of people use
it and as far as I have heard most people think it is the easiest  email
program to use. Just a suggestion instead of spending big bucks to just buy
Outlook.

Ed

-Original Message-
From: JAWS-Users-List [mailto:jaws-users-list-boun...@jaws-users.com] On
Behalf Of Zoe Fiogkos
Sent: Thursday, March 10, 2016 9:45 AM
To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] [Bulk] Re: defending myself hope this is ok

Thank you so much for your words of encouragement.  The truth of the matter
is that I was a little nervous about telling my story because I didn't know
how people would see it.
You know I live in Canada, and in the province I live in blind people are
entitled to free software, computers, cctv's, brail equipment, etc. for free
every 5 years, so if I really can't afford something I have the option to
wait until my 5 years is up and get everything for free.  So this so called
expert who claims to want to help blind people so much should get his facts
straight before he so easily accuses people. Anyhow I am just glad that
everyone now knows who I am and where I stand so there are no more
misunderstandings when it comes to my name.
Again thanks so much for understanding and confirming my intentions as you
read my emails.
Regards
Zoe

-Original Message-
From: JAWS-Users-List [mailto:jaws-users-list-boun...@jaws-users.com] On
Behalf Of Adrian Spratt
Sent: March-10-16 10:17 AM
To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
Subject: [Bulk] Re: [JAWS-Users] defending myself hope this is ok

 Zoe,

For the record, I read your original post on this subject the way you
describe it here. You hadn't installed illegal software. If it was illegal,
it wasn't you who had installed it. You aren't even sure it is illegal.
However, you wanted to make it legal, and your question went beyond that.
The software's possible illegality was a necessary foundation for why you
were asking your real question. If anything, it was a great illustration for
why we should always use legally obtained software. 

-Original Message-
From: JAWS-Users-List [mailto:jaws-users-list-boun...@jaws-users.com] On
Behalf Of Zoe Fiogkos
Sent: Thursday, March 10, 2016 9:38 AM
To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
Subject: [JAWS-Users] defending myself hope this is ok

Sorry everyone, but I feel like I have to defend myself. I made an innocent
comment on this list that obviously was misinterpreted by someone.  I want
the owners of this list to know I am not an advocator of illegal software.
I asked for help using outlook on a windows 10 laptop and someone suggested
I use my old outlook cd from my windows 7 laptop to install it now on my
windows 10 laptop.  I stated that someone installed it for me a long time
ago and 

Re: [JAWS-Users] Choices for web storage

[Kimsan]

For the life of me, I can't get onedrive to work.

People said there is a desktop client, where is it? I just use google drive
for now, but I'd like to get onedrive to work.
I gave up when yall started talking about it right before jim started his
list, I think.
-Original Message-
From: JAWS-Users-List [mailto:jaws-users-list-boun...@jaws-users.com] On
Behalf Of David Ferrin
Sent: Thursday, March 10, 2016 4:24 PM
To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] Choices for web storage

Google drive is not too bad to work with but in my opinion one drive is
easier to navigate. BTW I have both accounts along with drop box.
David Ferrin
A complex system that does not work is invariably found to have evolved from
a simpler system that worked perfectly.
- Original Message -
From: "wayne smith" 
To: 
Sent: Thursday, March 10, 2016 5:16 PM
Subject: [JAWS-Users] Choices for web storage


Hello-

I have a DropBox account with 2 gig of free storage and it is full.  Google
has an account with 15 gig of storage for free.  It is much harder for me to
move around and work in Google Drive, for example.  Is this a JAWS issue or
is DB simply much easier to  work with?  I am using Windows 7 (with no
desire to change) and JAWS 15.  I have later versions if I need them (16 and
17).  Are there Google Drive users or users of other web storage sites with
any thoughts?



Thanks in advance,



Wayne

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Re: [JAWS-Users] importing my favourites

[Mauricio Molina]

Hi Zoe, 

In my recent transition to a new laptop, the way I transferred my Internet
Explorer favorites to my new laptop is to open the Favorites folder in the
user name folder of the old laptop and to then select, copy, and paste into
the Favorites folder on my new laptop. 

Hope this make sense. 

Mauricio

-Original Message-
From: JAWS-Users-List [mailto:jaws-users-list-boun...@jaws-users.com] On
Behalf Of Zoe Fiogkos
Sent: Thursday, March 10, 2016 5:49 AM
To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
Subject: [JAWS-Users] importing my favourites

Hi guys can anyone tell me how I can export my favorites from internet
explorer from a windows 7 laptop to a windows 10 laptop?
I have about 100 websites saved in my favourites on ie in windows 7 and now
that soom I will be retireing this laptop I need to transfer them to ie on
windows 10 on another laptop.  I do have a thumb drive I can use for the
transferring but I'm unsure about how to go about it.
Thanks again everyone for all your help.
Regards
Zoe
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[JAWS-Users] win 10 causing problems

[Lenny McHugh]

Well, my grandson’s computer is almost unusable to him since the win 10 
update. At first he thought that zoom text was working. It is not. Not sure 
how he can get it corrected. I wish that the school would have purchased a 
FS product but they went for the cheapest. They may have to purchase a new 
copy that will work with win 10. He can not tell what else does not work. He 
with some help did a school assignment but can not print it. What ever 
program that the school uses for printing he now can not access. He will 
have to print it at school tomorrow.
I wanted to call Microsoft to have them back the computer to windows 8.1 but 
he does not want to take the long time and is afraid that more problems will 
show up. He does not want to use a screen reader yet. I think that there is 
one built into zoomtext but he refused to even take a look. He did lose all 
of his favorites during the unexpected update.


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Re: [JAWS-Users] How to arrange the newest e-mail on top in Outlook 2010

[Al Sorrentino]

Hi Adrian,

Many thanks for your instructions on getting my Outlook back to the way I
originally had it.

Al

-Original Message-
From: JAWS-Users-List [mailto:jaws-users-list-boun...@jaws-users.com] On
Behalf Of Adrian Spratt
Sent: Thursday, March 10, 2016 6:10 PM
To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] How to arrange the newest e-mail on top in Outlook
2010

With focus on the inbox message list, press alt-v, then v. This puts you in
a dialog that you can tab through for the columns and sequences you want.

-Original Message-
From: JAWS-Users-List [mailto:jaws-users-list-boun...@jaws-users.com] On
Behalf Of Al Sorrentino
Sent: Thursday, March 10, 2016 5:46 PM
To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
Subject: [JAWS-Users] How to arrange the newest e-mail on top in Outlook
2010

Hi Everyone,

 

I am using Outlook 2010, Windows 7, and JAWS 13and for some reason after an
automatic update, I noticed that my e-mail was listed in alphabetical order
rather than the newest on top of the list.  How can I get back my Outlook
2010 e-mail's back to the newest on top using JAWS?

 

I am kind of new at this and almost need to be spoon fed.  Many thanks in
advance for any help you can furnish me.

 

Al

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[JAWS-Users] Test message

[Fred Adams]

I have been bumped from the list several times for some unknown reason and I 
resubscribed.  This is a test message to see if I am back on the list.

Thanks much,

FRED C. ADAMS W4HC
US ARMY AIRBORNE RET
MARANATHA! MARANATHA‼‼




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Re: [JAWS-Users] remove me

[David Ferrin]

Go to the help page and click on the address to un-subscribe.
David Ferrin
A complex system that does not work is invariably found to have evolved from 
a simpler system that worked perfectly.
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From: "B Smith" 
To: 
Sent: Thursday, March 10, 2016 6:23 PM
Subject: [JAWS-Users] remove me


please remove me from this list

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Re: [JAWS-Users] Choices for web storage

[David Ferrin]

Google drive is not too bad to work with but in my opinion one drive is 
easier to navigate. BTW I have both accounts along with drop box.
David Ferrin
A complex system that does not work is invariably found to have evolved from 
a simpler system that worked perfectly.
- Original Message - 
From: "wayne smith" 
To: 
Sent: Thursday, March 10, 2016 5:16 PM
Subject: [JAWS-Users] Choices for web storage


Hello-

I have a DropBox account with 2 gig of free storage and it is full.  Google
has an account with 15 gig of storage for free.  It is much harder for me to
move around and work in Google Drive, for example.  Is this a JAWS issue or
is DB simply much easier to  work with?  I am using Windows 7 (with no
desire to change) and JAWS 15.  I have later versions if I need them (16 and
17).  Are there Google Drive users or users of other web storage sites with
any thoughts?



Thanks in advance,



Wayne

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Re: [JAWS-Users] [Bulk] Re: [Bulk] Re: defending myself hope thisis ok

[Marvin Atkins]

Zoe,

I think that the blind equipment is a 75% to 25% ratio where the province 
pays 75% and the recipient pays 25%. Still a good deal though.


Marv

-Original Message- 
From: Zoe Fiogkos

Sent: Thursday, March 10, 2016 6:11 PM
To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] [Bulk] Re: [Bulk] Re: defending myself hope thisis 
ok


I live in Ontario, as for email clients I'm still trying to figure out wich
one I'm going to go with.  I have used wlm in the past, maybe 7 years ago,
not sure it's been so long.  I'm going to have a look on the weekend at the
stores to see how much the Microsoft bundles go for.  I have literally
thousands of save documents in the word format so I'm thinking I may go for
the office bundle for that reason.  I'm still debating it.  Regardless of
the debate going on about the reading/preview pain I guess I'm one of those
who uses it and I love it.  I've never had a problem with viruses or jaws
and I want to continue using it so outlook looks like the way I'm going to
go.  I know it sounds like I've made up my mind, but it really will depend
on the prices at the store.  From what I gathered my husband has no problem
spending the money if it's going to make my life easier.  Another reason why
i'm considering the Microsoft package is because I guess I will half to
spend more money but I use word in another language and I have the Greek
spell check etc.  I do a lot of writing in Greek and having a spell check is
essential. Sorry for rambling but it's nice to see people care.  Thanks for
everything, take care for now
Regards
Zoe

-Original Message-
From: JAWS-Users-List [mailto:jaws-users-list-boun...@jaws-users.com] On
Behalf Of Pinky
Sent: March-10-16 2:01 PM
To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
Subject: [Bulk] Re: [JAWS-Users] [Bulk] Re: defending myself hope this is ok

Hi Zoe,
Wow, that quite a deal you have their in Canada. What province do you live
in. I am going to move there. As far as your previous questions go have you
tried using WLM again and see if it will work for you. A lot of people use
it and as far as I have heard most people think it is the easiest  email
program to use. Just a suggestion instead of spending big bucks to just buy
Outlook.

Ed

-Original Message-
From: JAWS-Users-List [mailto:jaws-users-list-boun...@jaws-users.com] On
Behalf Of Zoe Fiogkos
Sent: Thursday, March 10, 2016 9:45 AM
To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] [Bulk] Re: defending myself hope this is ok

Thank you so much for your words of encouragement.  The truth of the matter
is that I was a little nervous about telling my story because I didn't know
how people would see it.
You know I live in Canada, and in the province I live in blind people are
entitled to free software, computers, cctv's, brail equipment, etc. for free
every 5 years, so if I really can't afford something I have the option to
wait until my 5 years is up and get everything for free.  So this so called
expert who claims to want to help blind people so much should get his facts
straight before he so easily accuses people. Anyhow I am just glad that
everyone now knows who I am and where I stand so there are no more
misunderstandings when it comes to my name.
Again thanks so much for understanding and confirming my intentions as you
read my emails.
Regards
Zoe

-Original Message-
From: JAWS-Users-List [mailto:jaws-users-list-boun...@jaws-users.com] On
Behalf Of Adrian Spratt
Sent: March-10-16 10:17 AM
To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
Subject: [Bulk] Re: [JAWS-Users] defending myself hope this is ok

Zoe,

For the record, I read your original post on this subject the way you
describe it here. You hadn't installed illegal software. If it was illegal,
it wasn't you who had installed it. You aren't even sure it is illegal.
However, you wanted to make it legal, and your question went beyond that.
The software's possible illegality was a necessary foundation for why you
were asking your real question. If anything, it was a great illustration for
why we should always use legally obtained software.

-Original Message-
From: JAWS-Users-List [mailto:jaws-users-list-boun...@jaws-users.com] On
Behalf Of Zoe Fiogkos
Sent: Thursday, March 10, 2016 9:38 AM
To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
Subject: [JAWS-Users] defending myself hope this is ok

Sorry everyone, but I feel like I have to defend myself. I made an innocent
comment on this list that obviously was misinterpreted by someone.  I want
the owners of this list to know I am not an advocator of illegal software.
I asked for help using outlook on a windows 10 laptop and someone suggested
I use my old outlook cd from my windows 7 laptop to install it now on my
windows 10 laptop.  I stated that someone installed it for me a long time
ago and I don't have a cd and don't know if it's a legal copy.  We all have
been there, being new to technology and letting one or more people help us
with something we have no idea 

[JAWS-Users] remove me

[B Smith]

please remove me from this list

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Re: [JAWS-Users] [Bulk] Re: [Bulk] Re: defending myself hope this is ok

[Zoe Fiogkos]

I live in Ontario, as for email clients I'm still trying to figure out wich
one I'm going to go with.  I have used wlm in the past, maybe 7 years ago,
not sure it's been so long.  I'm going to have a look on the weekend at the
stores to see how much the Microsoft bundles go for.  I have literally
thousands of save documents in the word format so I'm thinking I may go for
the office bundle for that reason.  I'm still debating it.  Regardless of
the debate going on about the reading/preview pain I guess I'm one of those
who uses it and I love it.  I've never had a problem with viruses or jaws
and I want to continue using it so outlook looks like the way I'm going to
go.  I know it sounds like I've made up my mind, but it really will depend
on the prices at the store.  From what I gathered my husband has no problem
spending the money if it's going to make my life easier.  Another reason why
i'm considering the Microsoft package is because I guess I will half to
spend more money but I use word in another language and I have the Greek
spell check etc.  I do a lot of writing in Greek and having a spell check is
essential. Sorry for rambling but it's nice to see people care.  Thanks for
everything, take care for now
Regards
Zoe

-Original Message-
From: JAWS-Users-List [mailto:jaws-users-list-boun...@jaws-users.com] On
Behalf Of Pinky
Sent: March-10-16 2:01 PM
To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
Subject: [Bulk] Re: [JAWS-Users] [Bulk] Re: defending myself hope this is ok

Hi Zoe,
Wow, that quite a deal you have their in Canada. What province do you live
in. I am going to move there. As far as your previous questions go have you
tried using WLM again and see if it will work for you. A lot of people use
it and as far as I have heard most people think it is the easiest  email
program to use. Just a suggestion instead of spending big bucks to just buy
Outlook.

Ed

-Original Message-
From: JAWS-Users-List [mailto:jaws-users-list-boun...@jaws-users.com] On
Behalf Of Zoe Fiogkos
Sent: Thursday, March 10, 2016 9:45 AM
To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] [Bulk] Re: defending myself hope this is ok

Thank you so much for your words of encouragement.  The truth of the matter
is that I was a little nervous about telling my story because I didn't know
how people would see it.
You know I live in Canada, and in the province I live in blind people are
entitled to free software, computers, cctv's, brail equipment, etc. for free
every 5 years, so if I really can't afford something I have the option to
wait until my 5 years is up and get everything for free.  So this so called
expert who claims to want to help blind people so much should get his facts
straight before he so easily accuses people. Anyhow I am just glad that
everyone now knows who I am and where I stand so there are no more
misunderstandings when it comes to my name.
Again thanks so much for understanding and confirming my intentions as you
read my emails.
Regards
Zoe

-Original Message-
From: JAWS-Users-List [mailto:jaws-users-list-boun...@jaws-users.com] On
Behalf Of Adrian Spratt
Sent: March-10-16 10:17 AM
To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
Subject: [Bulk] Re: [JAWS-Users] defending myself hope this is ok

 Zoe,

For the record, I read your original post on this subject the way you
describe it here. You hadn't installed illegal software. If it was illegal,
it wasn't you who had installed it. You aren't even sure it is illegal.
However, you wanted to make it legal, and your question went beyond that.
The software's possible illegality was a necessary foundation for why you
were asking your real question. If anything, it was a great illustration for
why we should always use legally obtained software. 

-Original Message-
From: JAWS-Users-List [mailto:jaws-users-list-boun...@jaws-users.com] On
Behalf Of Zoe Fiogkos
Sent: Thursday, March 10, 2016 9:38 AM
To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
Subject: [JAWS-Users] defending myself hope this is ok

Sorry everyone, but I feel like I have to defend myself. I made an innocent
comment on this list that obviously was misinterpreted by someone.  I want
the owners of this list to know I am not an advocator of illegal software.
I asked for help using outlook on a windows 10 laptop and someone suggested
I use my old outlook cd from my windows 7 laptop to install it now on my
windows 10 laptop.  I stated that someone installed it for me a long time
ago and I don't have a cd and don't know if it's a legal copy.  We all have
been there, being new to technology and letting one or more people help us
with something we have no idea about.
I remember being so new at computers that when I got my first one, it just
sat there for months on a desk, because I had no idea even how to turn it
on.  I remember hearing the terminology desktop, task bar, etc.  and me
scratching my head and saying to myself huh?  If my outlook copy is legal or
not, I have no idea.  I certainly can't be held 

Re: [JAWS-Users] How to arrange the newest e-mail on top in Outlook 2010

[Adrian Spratt]

With focus on the inbox message list, press alt-v, then v. This puts you in a 
dialog that you can tab through for the columns and sequences you want.

-Original Message-
From: JAWS-Users-List [mailto:jaws-users-list-boun...@jaws-users.com] On Behalf 
Of Al Sorrentino
Sent: Thursday, March 10, 2016 5:46 PM
To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
Subject: [JAWS-Users] How to arrange the newest e-mail on top in Outlook 2010

Hi Everyone,

 

I am using Outlook 2010, Windows 7, and JAWS 13and for some reason after an
automatic update, I noticed that my e-mail was listed in alphabetical order
rather than the newest on top of the list.  How can I get back my Outlook
2010 e-mail's back to the newest on top using JAWS?

 

I am kind of new at this and almost need to be spoon fed.  Many thanks in
advance for any help you can furnish me.

 

Al

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[JAWS-Users] links in Thunderbird

[leonard morris]

When reading an email in Thunderbird using Jaws v17 what would be the 
best option to set links to so that I don't have to hear the following 
information?


 link ?qs=f87ece1c6b9c2353ef07d1b8afc178eb6dd6f614ce651351790be0df97381619

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Re: [JAWS-Users] JAWS Activation

[Mike B]

Hi Gerald,

You can call, 1-727-803-8015, to ask for an activation count reset.  or, go 
to the link below & send an email requesting for an activation count reset:

http://www.fsactivate.com


Take care.
Mike
The key to happiness is, having a crappy memory.
- Original Message - 
From: Gerald Levy
To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
Sent: Thursday, March 10, 2016 11:18 AM
Subject: [JAWS-Users] JAWS Activation



I just checked the FS software activation page and discovered that I only 
have one JAWS activation left.  Apparently, re-authorizing JAWS after I 
installed Open Book must have caused my activation count to be deducted by 
one.  Do I have to wait until my activation count reaches zero before FS 
will reset it to 3?  Or will they reset it even though I still have one 
activation left because of the extenuating circumstances of having to 
re-authorize JAWS to get it to work normally after installing the Open Book 
update? Thanks.

Gerald




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[JAWS-Users] How to arrange the newest e-mail on top in Outlook 2010

[Al Sorrentino]

Hi Everyone,

 

I am using Outlook 2010, Windows 7, and JAWS 13and for some reason after an
automatic update, I noticed that my e-mail was listed in alphabetical order
rather than the newest on top of the list.  How can I get back my Outlook
2010 e-mail's back to the newest on top using JAWS?

 

I am kind of new at this and almost need to be spoon fed.  Many thanks in
advance for any help you can furnish me.

 

Al

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[JAWS-Users] Choices for web storage

[wayne smith]

Hello-

I have a DropBox account with 2 gig of free storage and it is full.  Google
has an account with 15 gig of storage for free.  It is much harder for me to
move around and work in Google Drive, for example.  Is this a JAWS issue or
is DB simply much easier to  work with?  I am using Windows 7 (with no
desire to change) and JAWS 15.  I have later versions if I need them (16 and
17).  Are there Google Drive users or users of other web storage sites with
any thoughts?

 

Thanks in advance,

 

Wayne 

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Re: [JAWS-Users] openbook activation and installation

[David Ferrin]

Message written with invisible inc. or hidden electrons.
David Ferrin
A complex system that does not work is invariably found to have evolved from 
a simpler system that worked perfectly.
- Original Message - 
From: "kory anderson" < kanders...@sympatico.ca>
To: 
Sent: Thursday, March 10, 2016 12:28 PM
Subject: [JAWS-Users] openbook activation and installation



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Re: [JAWS-Users] defending myself hope this is ok

[David Ferrin]

Don't worry about it, if you were using cracked software and we could 
confirm it then you have a problem. Since none of that has come to pass you 
have nothing to concern yourself with at this point.
David Ferrin
A complex system that does not work is invariably found to have evolved from 
a simpler system that worked perfectly.
- Original Message - 
From: "Zoe Fiogkos" 
To: 
Sent: Thursday, March 10, 2016 9:37 AM
Subject: [JAWS-Users] defending myself hope this is ok


Sorry everyone, but I feel like I have to defend myself. I made an innocent
comment on this list that obviously was misinterpreted by someone.  I want
the owners of this list to know I am not an advocator of illegal software.
I asked for help using outlook on a windows 10 laptop and someone suggested
I use my old outlook cd from my windows 7 laptop to install it now on my
windows 10 laptop.  I stated that someone installed it for me a long time
ago and I don't have a cd and don't know if it's a legal copy.  We all have
been there, being new to technology and letting one or more people help us
with something we have no idea about.
I remember being so new at computers that when I got my first one, it just
sat there for months on a desk, because I had no idea even how to turn it
on.  I remember hearing the terminology desktop, task bar, etc.  and me
scratching my head and saying to myself huh?  If my outlook copy is legal or
not, I have no idea.  I certainly can't be held responsible for what people
did to help me over 7 years ago.  I sent emails to this group asking for
help on how to navigate the office.com website so that I may purchase
Microsoft word and or outlook.  Apparently I was kicked off another list
without warning because supposedly I use illegal software.  For the record
this is not true.  My family just spent this Christmas 850 dollars to buy me
a new laptop, I continued to spend 300 dollars to upgrade my jaws licence, I
spent 100 dollars to by the code factory vocalizer expressive voices for
NVDA, and if I need to I will spend money to buy outlook and word.
I hope this clears up to anyone on this list who I am, and my intentions.
People shouldn't be so quick to judge and accuse.  If people use illegal
software that's their choice, I am choosing not to go that route, and for
someone to refuse me help and label me that way is unfair and unjust.  This
topic maybe irrelevant to the list and I'm sorry for that but I wanted to
clear my name so that I don't get kicked off anymore lists unfairly.
Please all accept my apologies and thank you for listening.
Regards
Zoe
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Re: [JAWS-Users] test for bounce

[Fred Adams]

Tom, where did you find the welcome message?  I am having problems posting my 
messages to the list.  My messages do not bounce but I do not know where they 
go as they do not appear on the list.

-Original Message-
From: JAWS-Users-List [mailto:jaws-users-list-boun...@jaws-users.com] On Behalf 
Of T. Civitello
Sent: Tuesday, March 8, 2016 12:31 AM
To: JAWS-Users-List@jaws-users.com
Subject: [JAWS-Users] test for bounce

My messages to the list have been bouncing. This time I clicked on the link in 
the list welcome message. If this doesn’t work I will try the list owner.  Tom

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Re: [JAWS-Users] MailChimp

[Charles Krugman]

these programs have some serious qaccessibility issues. For example, much of 
the body of emails sent with Constant Contact are displayed as an image that 
is not read by JAWS or other screen readers. I don't know if anyone has 
raised these issues with the developers but it is very problematic and 
widespread.

Chuck

-Original Message- 
From: Jonathan Cohn

Sent: Saturday, March 5, 2016 7:41 PM
To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] MailChimp

Another popular service is constant Comcast.  I don't know any blind users 
and my wife says it is confusing

These type of programs might be good candidates for jaws 17 web scripting.


Jonathan Cohn


On Mar 3, 2016, at 3:59 PM, Reed Poynter  wrote:

Hello,



I have a requirement to send bulk e-mails.  Anyone found something that
works with screen-reading software?

I have been looking at MailChimp and am finding it very difficult to use.
Any suggestions?



Thanks,



Reed

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Re: [JAWS-Users] [Bulk] Re: defending myself hope this is ok

[Helga Schreiber]

Hi all! I agree wtih all! And Zoe that i snot right that they toook you out of 
the list! However, I thik Windows Live Mail is an easy email client to use! I 
use the Windows Live Mail, 2011. Now a question, how  can I upgrade or make an 
update o fmy windows live mail guys? I think I heard that there  is a WLM 2012. 
If so,  if it s better than 2011 right? I just wantto confirm with you guys! I 
look forward in hearing form you soon. Thanks and God bless!

Helga Schreiber 

Member of National Federation of the Blind and Florida Association of Blind 
Students.
Member of the International Networkers Team (INT).
Independent Entrepreneur of the Company 4Life Research.
Phone:  (561) 706-5950 
Email: helga.schreibe...@gmail.com 
Skype: helga.schreiber26 
4Life Website: http://helgaschreiber.my4life.com/1/default.aspx 
INT Website: http://int4life.com/ 

"For God so loved the world that he gave his one and only Son, that whoever 
believes in him shall not perish but have eternal life." John 3:16 
Sent from my iPhone 6S running IOS 9.2.1  

> On Mar 10, 2016, at 2:01 PM, Pinky  wrote:
> 
> Hi Zoe,
> Wow, that quite a deal you have their in Canada. What province do you live
> in. I am going to move there. As far as your previous questions go have you
> tried using WLM again and see if it will work for you. A lot of people use
> it and as far as I have heard most people think it is the easiest  email
> program to use. Just a suggestion instead of spending big bucks to just buy
> Outlook.
> 
> Ed
> 
> -Original Message-
> From: JAWS-Users-List [mailto:jaws-users-list-boun...@jaws-users.com] On
> Behalf Of Zoe Fiogkos
> Sent: Thursday, March 10, 2016 9:45 AM
> To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
> Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] [Bulk] Re: defending myself hope this is ok
> 
> Thank you so much for your words of encouragement.  The truth of the matter
> is that I was a little nervous about telling my story because I didn't know
> how people would see it.
> You know I live in Canada, and in the province I live in blind people are
> entitled to free software, computers, cctv's, brail equipment, etc. for free
> every 5 years, so if I really can't afford something I have the option to
> wait until my 5 years is up and get everything for free.  So this so called
> expert who claims to want to help blind people so much should get his facts
> straight before he so easily accuses people. Anyhow I am just glad that
> everyone now knows who I am and where I stand so there are no more
> misunderstandings when it comes to my name.
> Again thanks so much for understanding and confirming my intentions as you
> read my emails.
> Regards
> Zoe
> 
> -Original Message-
> From: JAWS-Users-List [mailto:jaws-users-list-boun...@jaws-users.com] On
> Behalf Of Adrian Spratt
> Sent: March-10-16 10:17 AM
> To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
> Subject: [Bulk] Re: [JAWS-Users] defending myself hope this is ok
> 
> Zoe,
> 
> For the record, I read your original post on this subject the way you
> describe it here. You hadn't installed illegal software. If it was illegal,
> it wasn't you who had installed it. You aren't even sure it is illegal.
> However, you wanted to make it legal, and your question went beyond that.
> The software's possible illegality was a necessary foundation for why you
> were asking your real question. If anything, it was a great illustration for
> why we should always use legally obtained software. 
> 
> -Original Message-
> From: JAWS-Users-List [mailto:jaws-users-list-boun...@jaws-users.com] On
> Behalf Of Zoe Fiogkos
> Sent: Thursday, March 10, 2016 9:38 AM
> To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
> Subject: [JAWS-Users] defending myself hope this is ok
> 
> Sorry everyone, but I feel like I have to defend myself. I made an innocent
> comment on this list that obviously was misinterpreted by someone.  I want
> the owners of this list to know I am not an advocator of illegal software.
> I asked for help using outlook on a windows 10 laptop and someone suggested
> I use my old outlook cd from my windows 7 laptop to install it now on my
> windows 10 laptop.  I stated that someone installed it for me a long time
> ago and I don't have a cd and don't know if it's a legal copy.  We all have
> been there, being new to technology and letting one or more people help us
> with something we have no idea about.
> I remember being so new at computers that when I got my first one, it just
> sat there for months on a desk, because I had no idea even how to turn it
> on.  I remember hearing the terminology desktop, task bar, etc.  and me
> scratching my head and saying to myself huh?  If my outlook copy is legal or
> not, I have no idea.  I certainly can't be held responsible for what people
> did to help me over 7 years ago.  I sent emails to this group asking for
> help on how to navigate the office.com website so that I may purchase
> Microsoft word and or outlook.  Apparently I was kicked off 

Re: [JAWS-Users] win 10 auto update no choice

[joanne]

There is a free tool that blocks Windows 10 notifications and monitors the 
computer for any attempts to change to 10.  It's called GWX control panel. 
I don't know if anyone has heard of or used it but it did take my windows 10 
notifications away.  I don't know much about it or what kind of rating or 
cautionary measures it may have, but at least for now I feel I need to do 
whatever it takes to block this thing.



- Original Message - 
From: "Lenny McHugh" 

To: "JFW List" 
Sent: Thursday, March 10, 2016 2:49 PM
Subject: [JAWS-Users] win 10 auto update no choice


My grandson just came home from school. He told me that first he kept trying
to x out of the updates for win 10. Last night there was no choice. He also
told me that all of the kids at his school are complaining. Last night all
of their computers automatically updated to win 10. He just left for a while
and later will try and check out all of his other programs. There is
something that is required for school that only works in Google chrome. Just
wonder why software developers make their software strictly dependent on a
specific browser.


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Re: [JAWS-Users] Using Windows Live Mail

[Gerald Levy]

Check out this exellent guide for using Windows Live Mail with JAWS:

http://vip.chowo.co.uk/wp-content/uploads/jaws/Windows-Live-Mail-2011-Guide.html

Gerald



-Original Message- 
From: John Snowling

Sent: Thursday, March 10, 2016 3:33 PM
To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
Subject: [JAWS-Users] Using Windows Live Mail

Hi.

I used to use Outlook Express until it stopped working for me.

I have been using web mail a lot because I wasn't sure about using
windows live mail with Jaws and Windows 7.

Are there any tutorials on using Windows mail and Jaws?

I am about to check the Freedom Scientific site.

Cheers.


From John Snowling.


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[JAWS-Users] Using Windows Live Mail

[John Snowling]

Hi.

I used to use Outlook Express until it stopped working for me.

I have been using web mail a lot because I wasn't sure about using
windows live mail with Jaws and Windows 7.

Are there any tutorials on using Windows mail and Jaws?

I am about to check the Freedom Scientific site.

Cheers.

>From John Snowling.

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Re: [JAWS-Users] [EXTERNAL] Re: win 10 auto update no choice

[Baracco, Andrew W]

MS released several patches yesterday. But this was not Win 10.

Andy


-Original Message-
From: JAWS-Users-List [mailto:jaws-users-list-boun...@jaws-users.com] On
Behalf Of ncboot...@gmail.com
Sent: Thursday, March 10, 2016 12:00 PM
To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
Subject: [EXTERNAL] Re: [JAWS-Users] win 10 auto update no choice

I got a 17 part update last night. But, I was not forced to upgrade to
Windows 10. I'm still in Windows 7.

-Original Message-
From: Lenny McHugh
Sent: Thursday, March 10, 2016 2:49 PM
To: JFW List
Subject: [JAWS-Users] win 10 auto update no choice

My grandson just came home from school. He told me that first he kept
trying to x out of the updates for win 10. Last night there was no
choice. He also told me that all of the kids at his school are
complaining. Last night all of their computers automatically updated to
win 10. He just left for a while and later will try and check out all of
his other programs. There is something that is required for school that
only works in Google chrome. Just wonder why software developers make
their software strictly dependent on a specific browser.


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[JAWS-Users] open book activation and installation.

[kory anderson]

i was able to install open book 9.0.169 the first time so i must have been 
lucky, however it didn’t show up in the list of updates i had to go to the 
freedom scientific site to get it however i did have a hard time reactivating 
open book as it said i had no internet connection but as soon as i opened ie it 
activated which by its self makes no sense. has anyone else experience this?
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Re: [JAWS-Users] win 10 auto update no choice

[ncbootman]

I got a 17 part update last night. But, I was not forced to upgrade to 
Windows 10. I'm still in Windows 7.


-Original Message- 
From: Lenny McHugh

Sent: Thursday, March 10, 2016 2:49 PM
To: JFW List
Subject: [JAWS-Users] win 10 auto update no choice

My grandson just came home from school. He told me that first he kept trying
to x out of the updates for win 10. Last night there was no choice. He also
told me that all of the kids at his school are complaining. Last night all
of their computers automatically updated to win 10. He just left for a while
and later will try and check out all of his other programs. There is
something that is required for school that only works in Google chrome. Just
wonder why software developers make their software strictly dependent on a
specific browser.


---

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[JAWS-Users] win 10 auto update no choice

[Lenny McHugh]

My grandson just came home from school. He told me that first he kept trying 
to x out of the updates for win 10. Last night there was no choice. He also 
told me that all of the kids at his school are complaining. Last night all 
of their computers automatically updated to win 10. He just left for a while 
and later will try and check out all of his other programs. There is 
something that is required for school that only works in Google chrome. Just 
wonder why software developers make their software strictly dependent on a 
specific browser.


---

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Re: [JAWS-Users] openbook activation and installation

[Moderator]

Hi Kory,
Well, you got the subject line, but your message is missing.


Richard Q. Justice-list moderator
jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com

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From: "kory anderson" < kanders...@sympatico.ca>
To: 
Sent: Thursday, March 10, 2016 12:28 PM
Subject: [JAWS-Users] openbook activation and installation



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Re: [JAWS-Users] JAWS Activation

[Bob]

They will usually reset with one key left.
Dont worry about asking for a reset as the need to reset them is just 
the way their system works.
The only time it is an issue is if you have asked for it to be reset 
multiple times in the recent past.


Bob

On 10/03/2016 19:18, Gerald Levy wrote:

I just checked the FS software activation page and discovered that I only have 
one JAWS activation left.  Apparently, re-authorizing JAWS after I installed 
Open Book must have caused my activation count to be deducted by one.  Do I 
have to wait until my activation count reaches zero before FS will reset it to 
3?  Or will they reset it even though I still have one activation left because 
of the extenuating circumstances of having to re-authorize JAWS to get it to 
work normally after installing the Open Book update? Thanks.

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[JAWS-Users] JAWS Activation

[Gerald Levy]

I just checked the FS software activation page and discovered that I only have 
one JAWS activation left.  Apparently, re-authorizing JAWS after I installed 
Open Book must have caused my activation count to be deducted by one.  Do I 
have to wait until my activation count reaches zero before FS will reset it to 
3?  Or will they reset it even though I still have one activation left because 
of the extenuating circumstances of having to re-authorize JAWS to get it to 
work normally after installing the Open Book update? Thanks.

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Re: [JAWS-Users] Using Outlook Express with gmail

[ncbootman]

Rick,

Thank you for explaining that to me. I have long wondered about that and did 
not have a concrete answer till now. Thanks.


Greg

-Original Message- 
From: Rick Justice

Sent: Thursday, March 10, 2016 12:16 PM
To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] Using Outlook Express with gmail

Actually, it is not the same program,
You hear Outlook Express because of the scripts being used by Jaws.

HTH,
Rick Justice

Tomorrow's another day, another way!
and if tomorrow never comes, problem solved!

- Original Message - 
From: 

To: 
Sent: Thursday, March 10, 2016 8:58 AM
Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] Using Outlook Express with gmail


I use Windows Live Mail with Gmail and Windows 7 and no problems. It says it
is Outlook Express. So, I'm thinking it is the same program just under the
Windows Live umbrella.

-Original Message- 
From: Arianna Calesso

Sent: Thursday, March 10, 2016 8:36 AM
To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
Subject: [JAWS-Users] Using Outlook Express with gmail

Is anyone using Oe with gmaIl?  A friend is using Windows 7 and having
problems getting OE to work with gmail.  He is using the settings in OE that
are recommended but still OE refuses to retain his password.

Anyone have any ideas?

Arianna
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Re: [JAWS-Users] [Bulk] Re: defending myself hope this is ok

[Pinky]

Hi Zoe,
Wow, that quite a deal you have their in Canada. What province do you live
in. I am going to move there. As far as your previous questions go have you
tried using WLM again and see if it will work for you. A lot of people use
it and as far as I have heard most people think it is the easiest  email
program to use. Just a suggestion instead of spending big bucks to just buy
Outlook.

Ed

-Original Message-
From: JAWS-Users-List [mailto:jaws-users-list-boun...@jaws-users.com] On
Behalf Of Zoe Fiogkos
Sent: Thursday, March 10, 2016 9:45 AM
To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] [Bulk] Re: defending myself hope this is ok

Thank you so much for your words of encouragement.  The truth of the matter
is that I was a little nervous about telling my story because I didn't know
how people would see it.
You know I live in Canada, and in the province I live in blind people are
entitled to free software, computers, cctv's, brail equipment, etc. for free
every 5 years, so if I really can't afford something I have the option to
wait until my 5 years is up and get everything for free.  So this so called
expert who claims to want to help blind people so much should get his facts
straight before he so easily accuses people. Anyhow I am just glad that
everyone now knows who I am and where I stand so there are no more
misunderstandings when it comes to my name.
Again thanks so much for understanding and confirming my intentions as you
read my emails.
Regards
Zoe

-Original Message-
From: JAWS-Users-List [mailto:jaws-users-list-boun...@jaws-users.com] On
Behalf Of Adrian Spratt
Sent: March-10-16 10:17 AM
To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
Subject: [Bulk] Re: [JAWS-Users] defending myself hope this is ok

 Zoe,

For the record, I read your original post on this subject the way you
describe it here. You hadn't installed illegal software. If it was illegal,
it wasn't you who had installed it. You aren't even sure it is illegal.
However, you wanted to make it legal, and your question went beyond that.
The software's possible illegality was a necessary foundation for why you
were asking your real question. If anything, it was a great illustration for
why we should always use legally obtained software. 

-Original Message-
From: JAWS-Users-List [mailto:jaws-users-list-boun...@jaws-users.com] On
Behalf Of Zoe Fiogkos
Sent: Thursday, March 10, 2016 9:38 AM
To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
Subject: [JAWS-Users] defending myself hope this is ok

Sorry everyone, but I feel like I have to defend myself. I made an innocent
comment on this list that obviously was misinterpreted by someone.  I want
the owners of this list to know I am not an advocator of illegal software.
I asked for help using outlook on a windows 10 laptop and someone suggested
I use my old outlook cd from my windows 7 laptop to install it now on my
windows 10 laptop.  I stated that someone installed it for me a long time
ago and I don't have a cd and don't know if it's a legal copy.  We all have
been there, being new to technology and letting one or more people help us
with something we have no idea about.
I remember being so new at computers that when I got my first one, it just
sat there for months on a desk, because I had no idea even how to turn it
on.  I remember hearing the terminology desktop, task bar, etc.  and me
scratching my head and saying to myself huh?  If my outlook copy is legal or
not, I have no idea.  I certainly can't be held responsible for what people
did to help me over 7 years ago.  I sent emails to this group asking for
help on how to navigate the office.com website so that I may purchase
Microsoft word and or outlook.  Apparently I was kicked off another list
without warning because supposedly I use illegal software.  For the record
this is not true.  My family just spent this Christmas 850 dollars to buy me
a new laptop, I continued to spend 300 dollars to upgrade my jaws licence, I
spent 100 dollars to by the code factory vocalizer expressive voices for
NVDA, and if I need to I will spend money to buy outlook and word.  
I hope this clears up to anyone on this list who I am, and my intentions.
People shouldn't be so quick to judge and accuse.  If people use illegal
software that's their choice, I am choosing not to go that route, and for
someone to refuse me help and label me that way is unfair and unjust.  This
topic maybe irrelevant to the list and I'm sorry for that but I wanted to
clear my name so that I don't get kicked off anymore lists unfairly.
Please all accept my apologies and thank you for listening.
Regards
Zoe
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Re: [JAWS-Users] openbook activation and installation

[Gerald Levy]

Where's the message?

Gerald 




-Original Message- 
From: kory anderson 
Sent: Thursday, March 10, 2016 12:28 PM 
To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com 
Subject: [JAWS-Users] openbook activation and installation 



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Re: [JAWS-Users] a serious concern of mine

[Maria Campbell]

For some unknown reason to me, I have to do the same thing if I have 
Winamp open.

I'm also using w7 and J17.

Maria Campbell
lucky1i...@gmail.com

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--Attributed to Jimi Hendrix

On 3/10/2016 11:35 AM, Doug Oliver wrote:

Hi there.
I'm using Windows 7 64-bit with the latest update to JAWS 17.
A serious issue I'm noticing at least on my system I ahve to keep toggling the 
virtual cursor anytime I launch Internet explorer or open an email in my email.
Please let me know what I can do via it a repair on JAWS, etc.
Thanks,
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[JAWS-Users] a serious concern of mine

[Doug Oliver]

Hi there.
I'm using Windows 7 64-bit with the latest update to JAWS 17.
A serious issue I'm noticing at least on my system I ahve to keep toggling the 
virtual cursor anytime I launch Internet explorer or open an email in my email.
Please let me know what I can do via it a repair on JAWS, etc.
Thanks,
Doug
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[JAWS-Users] openbook activation and installation

[kory anderson]

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Re: [JAWS-Users] (no subject)

[Moderator]

No Subject is not acceptable for a subject line.
Please use an appropriate subject line in the future!
Thank you,

Richard Q. Justice-list moderator
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- Original Message - 
From: "kory anderson" < kanders...@sympatico.ca>
To: 
Sent: Thursday, March 10, 2016 11:12 AM
Subject: [JAWS-Users] (no subject)


i must have been luckie as openbook 9.0.169 installed properly for me the 
first time without issues however for some reason it didn’t show up in the 
audo updates list i had to go to the freedomscientific site to get it and i 
had issues activating it as it said i had no internet connection than i 
opened ie than tryed again and it activated fine.
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Re: [JAWS-Users] Using Outlook Express with gmail

[Rick Justice]

Actually, it is not the same program,
You hear Outlook Express because of the scripts being used by Jaws.

HTH,
Rick Justice

Tomorrow's another day, another way!
and if tomorrow never comes, problem solved!

- Original Message - 
From: 
To: 
Sent: Thursday, March 10, 2016 8:58 AM
Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] Using Outlook Express with gmail


I use Windows Live Mail with Gmail and Windows 7 and no problems. It says it
is Outlook Express. So, I'm thinking it is the same program just under the
Windows Live umbrella.

-Original Message- 
From: Arianna Calesso
Sent: Thursday, March 10, 2016 8:36 AM
To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
Subject: [JAWS-Users] Using Outlook Express with gmail

Is anyone using Oe with gmaIl?  A friend is using Windows 7 and having
problems getting OE to work with gmail.  He is using the settings in OE that
are recommended but still OE refuses to retain his password.

Anyone have any ideas?

Arianna
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[JAWS-Users] (no subject)

[kory anderson]

i must have been luckie as openbook 9.0.169 installed properly for me the first 
time without issues however for some reason it didn’t show up in the audo 
updates list i had to go to the freedomscientific site to get it and i had 
issues activating it as it said i had no internet connection than i  opened ie 
than tryed again and it activated fine.
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[JAWS-Users] HD mysteriously accessed

[Mario]

my computer boots from a solid state drive and has a platter hard drive 
for storing stuff, and occasionally the platter HD revs up. I also 
notice it revs up whenever I use the safely remove utility in the 
systray to remove an external USB HD. is this normal behavior? is there 
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Re: [JAWS-Users] auto update to windows 10

[Jim]

No, it may get downloaded but not installed.
You have to go through a process to install w-10.





Love God! with your heart, mind, and soul, that you might be blessed 
reaching His goal.
Love your Neighbor as you would yourself, God will truly reward you with 
good health.
Love God, your neighbor, as you love yourself, you will then be spiritually 
balanced with wealth.
Love His Word that proceeds from His lips, then reflect on the heavens where 
God sits.

Jim
-Original Message- 
From: Lynn White

Sent: Thursday, March 10, 2016 8:09 AM
To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] auto update to windows 10

No.  Actually it's getting to the point where people have been reporting
that, if you have checked recommended updates, Windows 10 automatically
gets installed.

On 3/9/2016 11:27 PM, Pinky wrote:

Hi,
I am not sure you could have W10 automatically install because you have to
do a few steps during the install process. Are you sure it is not the icon
down by the clock  in the system tray  and also a screen may come up 
telling
you about installing W10.  So my next question is are you sure it 
installed

W10? And if so how do you know it is using W10?

Ed

-Original Message-
From: JAWS-Users-List [mailto:jaws-users-list-boun...@jaws-users.com] On
Behalf Of Lenny McHugh
Sent: Wednesday, March 09, 2016 9:57 PM
To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] auto update to windows 10

He does not have openbook. The school installed zoomtext on his computer. 
I

had a demo copy of jaws 15 installed but have not needed access to his
computer in a very long time. There are some other programs installed. He
was told by the school not to install win 10 and now it is completely
installed and set up. Zoomtext did update and looks like it is running for
him. Not sure about everything else.

-Original Message-
From: TheHangMan
Sent: Wednesday, March 09, 2016 8:44 PM
To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] auto update to windows 10

Lenny,
If he was running jaws 16, 17 or have openbook installed, That would never
happen, like you say, automatically.
Because the upgrade would only get to about 25% complete and you would 
have

to cancel the install, or continue and remove the FS programs.
Jorge

-Original Message-
From: JAWS-Users-List [mailto:jaws-users-list-boun...@jaws-users.com] On
Behalf Of Lenny McHugh
Sent: Wednesday, March 09, 2016 7:53 PM
To: JFW List 
Subject: [JAWS-Users] auto update to windows 10

My grandson just turned his computer on and it automatically updated to
windows 10. How can he go back to windows 8.1? Some of his programs 
supplied

by the school and office for the blind will not work on windows 10.


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Re: [JAWS-Users] auto update to windows 10

[TheHangMan]

Hello,
You are not going to get rid of that message, until you install windows 10
Hahahaha!.

But, you can still update your window 7 pc.

Press windows key,
Arrow to all programs submenu,
Press right arrow to open the submenu.

Press W for quick key navigation and arrow to windows update - enter.

Tab, to show all updates available - enter.

When, they populate, select with the spacebar or deselect.

Skip the windows10 update,

Then, tab to ok - enter.

Let it update, and most likely will ask for a restart, select yes -
spacebar,

HTH,
Jorge

-Original Message-
From: JAWS-Users-List [mailto:jaws-users-list-boun...@jaws-users.com] On
Behalf Of joanne
Sent: Thursday, March 10, 2016 10:03 AM
To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] auto update to windows 10

Yes I had questions about my windows updates and how most of them lately
show as failed.  But the problem is I can't even check for updates, because
the screen says I have a pending update so I can't even look at the updates.

And it always says "restart now," as if it's gonna force installation of 10
if I do restart.  In my case it probably wouldn't install because many new
updates are showing as failed.  But I wonder if I could get this windows 10
message out of updates I could try installing only the updates I want.  If
anyone knows how to get this windows 10 message out of windows updates I
would very much appreciate knowing how.


- Original Message -
From: "David Ferrin" 
To: 
Sent: Thursday, March 10, 2016 8:13 AM
Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] auto update to windows 10


> Now this is new and a bit annoying I must say.
>
> David Ferrin
> A complex system that does not work is invariably found to have evolved 
> from
> a simpler system that worked perfectly.
>
>
> -Original Message-
> From: JAWS-Users-List [mailto:jaws-users-list-boun...@jaws-users.com] On
> Behalf Of Lynn White
> Sent: Thursday, March 10, 2016 8:09 AM
> To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
> Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] auto update to windows 10
>
> No.  Actually it's getting to the point where people have been reporting
> that, if you have checked recommended updates, Windows 10 automatically 
> gets
> installed.
>
> On 3/9/2016 11:27 PM, Pinky wrote:
>> Hi,
>> I am not sure you could have W10 automatically install because you
>> have to do a few steps during the install process. Are you sure it is
>> not the icon down by the clock  in the system tray  and also a screen
>> may come up telling you about installing W10.  So my next question is
>> are you sure it installed W10? And if so how do you know it is using W10?
>>
>> Ed
>>
>> -Original Message-
>> From: JAWS-Users-List [mailto:jaws-users-list-boun...@jaws-users.com]
>> On Behalf Of Lenny McHugh
>> Sent: Wednesday, March 09, 2016 9:57 PM
>> To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
>> Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] auto update to windows 10
>>
>> He does not have openbook. The school installed zoomtext on his
>> computer. I had a demo copy of jaws 15 installed but have not needed
>> access to his computer in a very long time. There are some other
>> programs installed. He was told by the school not to install win 10
>> and now it is completely installed and set up. Zoomtext did update and
>> looks like it is running for him. Not sure about everything else.
>>
>> -Original Message-
>> From: TheHangMan
>> Sent: Wednesday, March 09, 2016 8:44 PM
>> To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
>> Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] auto update to windows 10
>>
>> Lenny,
>> If he was running jaws 16, 17 or have openbook installed, That would
>> never happen, like you say, automatically.
>> Because the upgrade would only get to about 25% complete and you would
>> have to cancel the install, or continue and remove the FS programs.
>> Jorge
>>
>> -Original Message-
>> From: JAWS-Users-List [mailto:jaws-users-list-boun...@jaws-users.com]
>> On Behalf Of Lenny McHugh
>> Sent: Wednesday, March 09, 2016 7:53 PM
>> To: JFW List 
>> Subject: [JAWS-Users] auto update to windows 10
>>
>> My grandson just turned his computer on and it automatically updated
>> to windows 10. How can he go back to windows 8.1? Some of his programs
>> supplied by the school and office for the blind will not work on windows
> 10.
>>
>>
>> ---
>>
>> Please visit my web page
>>
>> It's motivational, inspirational with a touch of humor
>>
>> There is also a very extensive resource list for the blind
>>
>> http://www.LennyMcHugh.com
>>
>> International Brotherhood of Magicians member #43990R For answers to
>> frequently asked questions about this list visit:
>> http://www.jaws-users.com/help/
>>
>>
>> For answers to frequently asked questions about this list visit:
>> http://www.jaws-users.com/help/
>>
>>
>> For answers to frequently asked questions about this list visit:
>> http://www.jaws-users.com/help/
>>
>>
>>
>>
>> 

Re: [JAWS-Users] [Bulk] Re: defending myself hope this is ok

[Zoe Fiogkos]

Thank you so much for your words of encouragement.  The truth of the matter
is that I was a little nervous about telling my story because I didn't know
how people would see it.
You know I live in Canada, and in the province I live in blind people are
entitled to free software, computers, cctv's, brail equipment, etc. for free
every 5 years, so if I really can't afford something I have the option to
wait until my 5 years is up and get everything for free.  So this so called
expert who claims to want to help blind people so much should get his facts
straight before he so easily accuses people. Anyhow I am just glad that
everyone now knows who I am and where I stand so there are no more
misunderstandings when it comes to my name.
Again thanks so much for understanding and confirming my intentions as you
read my emails.
Regards
Zoe

-Original Message-
From: JAWS-Users-List [mailto:jaws-users-list-boun...@jaws-users.com] On
Behalf Of Adrian Spratt
Sent: March-10-16 10:17 AM
To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
Subject: [Bulk] Re: [JAWS-Users] defending myself hope this is ok

 Zoe,

For the record, I read your original post on this subject the way you
describe it here. You hadn't installed illegal software. If it was illegal,
it wasn't you who had installed it. You aren't even sure it is illegal.
However, you wanted to make it legal, and your question went beyond that.
The software's possible illegality was a necessary foundation for why you
were asking your real question. If anything, it was a great illustration for
why we should always use legally obtained software. 

-Original Message-
From: JAWS-Users-List [mailto:jaws-users-list-boun...@jaws-users.com] On
Behalf Of Zoe Fiogkos
Sent: Thursday, March 10, 2016 9:38 AM
To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
Subject: [JAWS-Users] defending myself hope this is ok

Sorry everyone, but I feel like I have to defend myself. I made an innocent
comment on this list that obviously was misinterpreted by someone.  I want
the owners of this list to know I am not an advocator of illegal software.
I asked for help using outlook on a windows 10 laptop and someone suggested
I use my old outlook cd from my windows 7 laptop to install it now on my
windows 10 laptop.  I stated that someone installed it for me a long time
ago and I don't have a cd and don't know if it's a legal copy.  We all have
been there, being new to technology and letting one or more people help us
with something we have no idea about.
I remember being so new at computers that when I got my first one, it just
sat there for months on a desk, because I had no idea even how to turn it
on.  I remember hearing the terminology desktop, task bar, etc.  and me
scratching my head and saying to myself huh?  If my outlook copy is legal or
not, I have no idea.  I certainly can't be held responsible for what people
did to help me over 7 years ago.  I sent emails to this group asking for
help on how to navigate the office.com website so that I may purchase
Microsoft word and or outlook.  Apparently I was kicked off another list
without warning because supposedly I use illegal software.  For the record
this is not true.  My family just spent this Christmas 850 dollars to buy me
a new laptop, I continued to spend 300 dollars to upgrade my jaws licence, I
spent 100 dollars to by the code factory vocalizer expressive voices for
NVDA, and if I need to I will spend money to buy outlook and word.  
I hope this clears up to anyone on this list who I am, and my intentions.
People shouldn't be so quick to judge and accuse.  If people use illegal
software that's their choice, I am choosing not to go that route, and for
someone to refuse me help and label me that way is unfair and unjust.  This
topic maybe irrelevant to the list and I'm sorry for that but I wanted to
clear my name so that I don't get kicked off anymore lists unfairly.
Please all accept my apologies and thank you for listening.
Regards
Zoe
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Re: [JAWS-Users] Another Openbook 9 Update, 9.0.1696.403

[Gerald Levy]

No, you are not the only one by a long shot.  Open Book users on other 
mailing lists have reported problems with JAWS and Open Book itself after 
they installed the latest Open Book update.  I guess I was just lucky. 
Although in my case the Open Book update, 9.0.1695, somehow caused JAWS 16 
to revert from the Home Use version in normal, full mode to the Professional 
version in 40 minute demo mode, I was able to successfully re-authorize JAWS 
16 and restore it to normal without having to repair or re-install it.


Gerald



-Original Message- 
From: The Iowa Gal

Sent: Thursday, March 10, 2016 9:37 AM
To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] Another Openbook 9 Update, 9.0.1696.403

Boy, am I glad to see I'm not the only one having trouble with the OB
update. I thought something was wrong with my PC.

-Original Message-
From: JAWS-Users-List [mailto:jaws-users-list-boun...@jaws-users.com] On
Behalf Of Mike B.
Sent: Thursday, March 10, 2016 7:28 AM
To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] Another Openbook 9 Update, 9.0.1696.403

Hi David & Gerald,

Well, this new update would not install at all.  I must have tried 20 times,
& this is no exageration!  Even FS tech support could  not get it to install
on this computer.  I ended up having to repair Jaws 16 & Openbook to get my
computer right again.  Neither update, OB9.0.1695.403 or, OB9.0.1696.403
would install.  So, I'm back to 9.0.1543 after around 5 hours of wasted
time.
Take care.
Mike
The key to happiness, is having a crappy memory.
- Original Message -
From: Gerald Levy
To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
Sent: Thursday, March 10, 2016 3:55 AM
Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] Another Openbook 9 Update, 9.0.1696.403



I'm wondering whether this update will cause JAWS 16 to revert to the
Professional version in 40 minute demo mode like the previous update did.
After installing the previous update to Open Book, I had to re-authorize
JAWS to restore it to the Home Use version in normal, full mode.

Gerald



-Original Message-
From: David Ferrin
Sent: Wednesday, March 09, 2016 7:56 PM
To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] Another Openbook 9 Update, 9.0.1696.403

Not the first time an update had an update.

David Ferrin
A complex system that does not work is invariably found to have evolved from
a simpler system that worked perfectly.

-Original Message-
From: JAWS-Users-List [mailto:jaws-users-list-boun...@jaws-users.com] On
Behalf Of Mike B.
Sent: Wednesday, March 09, 2016 7:54 PM
To: Jaws-Users List
Subject: [JAWS-Users] Another Openbook 9 Update, 9.0.1696.403

Hi All,

Below is the direct download link for this newest OB 9 update.  This update
was released Monday March 7, 2016, at least that's what was told to me by
Freedom Scientific tech support.  This update, OB9.0.1696.403, fixes
something from the February update, OB9.0.1695.403.  I couldn't find what
this update is supposed to fix from the prior version.

http://files.freedomscientific.com/WebFiles/AutoUpdate/OB9.0.1696.403-ENU.ex
e


Take care.
Mike
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Re: [JAWS-Users] defending myself hope this is ok

[Adrian Spratt]

 Zoe,

For the record, I read your original post on this subject the way you describe 
it here. You hadn't installed illegal software. If it was illegal, it wasn't 
you who had installed it. You aren't even sure it is illegal. However, you 
wanted to make it legal, and your question went beyond that. The software's 
possible illegality was a necessary foundation for why you were asking your 
real question. If anything, it was a great illustration for why we should 
always use legally obtained software. 

-Original Message-
From: JAWS-Users-List [mailto:jaws-users-list-boun...@jaws-users.com] On Behalf 
Of Zoe Fiogkos
Sent: Thursday, March 10, 2016 9:38 AM
To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
Subject: [JAWS-Users] defending myself hope this is ok

Sorry everyone, but I feel like I have to defend myself. I made an innocent
comment on this list that obviously was misinterpreted by someone.  I want
the owners of this list to know I am not an advocator of illegal software.
I asked for help using outlook on a windows 10 laptop and someone suggested
I use my old outlook cd from my windows 7 laptop to install it now on my
windows 10 laptop.  I stated that someone installed it for me a long time
ago and I don't have a cd and don't know if it's a legal copy.  We all have
been there, being new to technology and letting one or more people help us
with something we have no idea about.
I remember being so new at computers that when I got my first one, it just
sat there for months on a desk, because I had no idea even how to turn it
on.  I remember hearing the terminology desktop, task bar, etc.  and me
scratching my head and saying to myself huh?  If my outlook copy is legal or
not, I have no idea.  I certainly can't be held responsible for what people
did to help me over 7 years ago.  I sent emails to this group asking for
help on how to navigate the office.com website so that I may purchase
Microsoft word and or outlook.  Apparently I was kicked off another list
without warning because supposedly I use illegal software.  For the record
this is not true.  My family just spent this Christmas 850 dollars to buy me
a new laptop, I continued to spend 300 dollars to upgrade my jaws licence, I
spent 100 dollars to by the code factory vocalizer expressive voices for
NVDA, and if I need to I will spend money to buy outlook and word.  
I hope this clears up to anyone on this list who I am, and my intentions.
People shouldn't be so quick to judge and accuse.  If people use illegal
software that's their choice, I am choosing not to go that route, and for
someone to refuse me help and label me that way is unfair and unjust.  This
topic maybe irrelevant to the list and I'm sorry for that but I wanted to
clear my name so that I don't get kicked off anymore lists unfairly.
Please all accept my apologies and thank you for listening.
Regards
Zoe
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Re: [JAWS-Users] auto update to windows 10

[joanne]

Yes I had questions about my windows updates and how most of them lately 
show as failed.  But the problem is I can't even check for updates, because 
the screen says I have a pending update so I can't even look at the updates. 
And it always says "restart now," as if it's gonna force installation of 10 
if I do restart.  In my case it probably wouldn't install because many new 
updates are showing as failed.  But I wonder if I could get this windows 10 
message out of updates I could try installing only the updates I want.  If 
anyone knows how to get this windows 10 message out of windows updates I 
would very much appreciate knowing how.



- Original Message - 
From: "David Ferrin" 

To: 
Sent: Thursday, March 10, 2016 8:13 AM
Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] auto update to windows 10



Now this is new and a bit annoying I must say.

David Ferrin
A complex system that does not work is invariably found to have evolved 
from

a simpler system that worked perfectly.


-Original Message-
From: JAWS-Users-List [mailto:jaws-users-list-boun...@jaws-users.com] On
Behalf Of Lynn White
Sent: Thursday, March 10, 2016 8:09 AM
To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] auto update to windows 10

No.  Actually it's getting to the point where people have been reporting
that, if you have checked recommended updates, Windows 10 automatically 
gets

installed.

On 3/9/2016 11:27 PM, Pinky wrote:

Hi,
I am not sure you could have W10 automatically install because you
have to do a few steps during the install process. Are you sure it is
not the icon down by the clock  in the system tray  and also a screen
may come up telling you about installing W10.  So my next question is
are you sure it installed W10? And if so how do you know it is using W10?

Ed

-Original Message-
From: JAWS-Users-List [mailto:jaws-users-list-boun...@jaws-users.com]
On Behalf Of Lenny McHugh
Sent: Wednesday, March 09, 2016 9:57 PM
To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] auto update to windows 10

He does not have openbook. The school installed zoomtext on his
computer. I had a demo copy of jaws 15 installed but have not needed
access to his computer in a very long time. There are some other
programs installed. He was told by the school not to install win 10
and now it is completely installed and set up. Zoomtext did update and
looks like it is running for him. Not sure about everything else.

-Original Message-
From: TheHangMan
Sent: Wednesday, March 09, 2016 8:44 PM
To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] auto update to windows 10

Lenny,
If he was running jaws 16, 17 or have openbook installed, That would
never happen, like you say, automatically.
Because the upgrade would only get to about 25% complete and you would
have to cancel the install, or continue and remove the FS programs.
Jorge

-Original Message-
From: JAWS-Users-List [mailto:jaws-users-list-boun...@jaws-users.com]
On Behalf Of Lenny McHugh
Sent: Wednesday, March 09, 2016 7:53 PM
To: JFW List 
Subject: [JAWS-Users] auto update to windows 10

My grandson just turned his computer on and it automatically updated
to windows 10. How can he go back to windows 8.1? Some of his programs
supplied by the school and office for the blind will not work on windows

10.



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[JAWS-Users] defending myself hope this is ok

[Zoe Fiogkos]

Sorry everyone, but I feel like I have to defend myself. I made an innocent
comment on this list that obviously was misinterpreted by someone.  I want
the owners of this list to know I am not an advocator of illegal software.
I asked for help using outlook on a windows 10 laptop and someone suggested
I use my old outlook cd from my windows 7 laptop to install it now on my
windows 10 laptop.  I stated that someone installed it for me a long time
ago and I don't have a cd and don't know if it's a legal copy.  We all have
been there, being new to technology and letting one or more people help us
with something we have no idea about.
I remember being so new at computers that when I got my first one, it just
sat there for months on a desk, because I had no idea even how to turn it
on.  I remember hearing the terminology desktop, task bar, etc.  and me
scratching my head and saying to myself huh?  If my outlook copy is legal or
not, I have no idea.  I certainly can't be held responsible for what people
did to help me over 7 years ago.  I sent emails to this group asking for
help on how to navigate the office.com website so that I may purchase
Microsoft word and or outlook.  Apparently I was kicked off another list
without warning because supposedly I use illegal software.  For the record
this is not true.  My family just spent this Christmas 850 dollars to buy me
a new laptop, I continued to spend 300 dollars to upgrade my jaws licence, I
spent 100 dollars to by the code factory vocalizer expressive voices for
NVDA, and if I need to I will spend money to buy outlook and word.  
I hope this clears up to anyone on this list who I am, and my intentions.
People shouldn't be so quick to judge and accuse.  If people use illegal
software that's their choice, I am choosing not to go that route, and for
someone to refuse me help and label me that way is unfair and unjust.  This
topic maybe irrelevant to the list and I'm sorry for that but I wanted to
clear my name so that I don't get kicked off anymore lists unfairly.
Please all accept my apologies and thank you for listening.
Regards
Zoe
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Re: [JAWS-Users] Another Openbook 9 Update, 9.0.1696.403

[The Iowa Gal]

Boy, am I glad to see I'm not the only one having trouble with the OB
update. I thought something was wrong with my PC.  

-Original Message-
From: JAWS-Users-List [mailto:jaws-users-list-boun...@jaws-users.com] On
Behalf Of Mike B.
Sent: Thursday, March 10, 2016 7:28 AM
To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] Another Openbook 9 Update, 9.0.1696.403

Hi David & Gerald,

Well, this new update would not install at all.  I must have tried 20 times,
& this is no exageration!  Even FS tech support could  not get it to install
on this computer.  I ended up having to repair Jaws 16 & Openbook to get my
computer right again.  Neither update, OB9.0.1695.403 or, OB9.0.1696.403
would install.  So, I'm back to 9.0.1543 after around 5 hours of wasted
time.
Take care.
Mike
The key to happiness, is having a crappy memory.
- Original Message -
From: Gerald Levy
To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
Sent: Thursday, March 10, 2016 3:55 AM
Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] Another Openbook 9 Update, 9.0.1696.403



I'm wondering whether this update will cause JAWS 16 to revert to the
Professional version in 40 minute demo mode like the previous update did.
After installing the previous update to Open Book, I had to re-authorize
JAWS to restore it to the Home Use version in normal, full mode.

Gerald



-Original Message-
From: David Ferrin
Sent: Wednesday, March 09, 2016 7:56 PM
To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] Another Openbook 9 Update, 9.0.1696.403

Not the first time an update had an update.

David Ferrin
A complex system that does not work is invariably found to have evolved from
a simpler system that worked perfectly.

-Original Message-
From: JAWS-Users-List [mailto:jaws-users-list-boun...@jaws-users.com] On
Behalf Of Mike B.
Sent: Wednesday, March 09, 2016 7:54 PM
To: Jaws-Users List
Subject: [JAWS-Users] Another Openbook 9 Update, 9.0.1696.403

Hi All,

Below is the direct download link for this newest OB 9 update.  This update
was released Monday March 7, 2016, at least that's what was told to me by
Freedom Scientific tech support.  This update, OB9.0.1696.403, fixes
something from the February update, OB9.0.1695.403.  I couldn't find what
this update is supposed to fix from the prior version.

http://files.freedomscientific.com/WebFiles/AutoUpdate/OB9.0.1696.403-ENU.ex
e


Take care.
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Re: [JAWS-Users] Using Outlook Express with gmail

[ncbootman]

I use Windows Live Mail with Gmail and Windows 7 and no problems. It says it 
is Outlook Express. So, I'm thinking it is the same program just under the 
Windows Live umbrella.


-Original Message- 
From: Arianna Calesso

Sent: Thursday, March 10, 2016 8:36 AM
To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
Subject: [JAWS-Users] Using Outlook Express with gmail

Is anyone using Oe with gmaIl?  A friend is using Windows 7 and having 
problems getting OE to work with gmail.  He is using the settings in OE that 
are recommended but still OE refuses to retain his password.


Anyone have any ideas?

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Re: [JAWS-Users] Using Outlook Express with gmail

[Mike B.]

Hi Arianna,

Here is a note that might help with your friends situation:

From: Carlos
I'm guessing you used the installer for the last free version.  Sorry 
there's one minor point I always forget about that installer.  Basically, 
during the installation, the Protected Storage component has to be updated. 
The Protected Storage component is responsible for remembering account 
passwords.  Unfortunately, in the installer for the last free version the 
checkbox which insures the Protected Storage component gets updated is 
unchecked by default for some reason.  Just reinstall it and make sure the 
Protected Storage checkbox is checked.  Don't forget to run the installer as 
administrator and reboot after the installation is complete.  After you 
reboot and run Outlook Express, it will ask for your account passwords one 
final time, but after that it should remember them for subsequent sessions.
  Carlos

Take care.
Mike
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- Original Message - 
From: Arianna Calesso
To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
Sent: Thursday, March 10, 2016 5:36 AM
Subject: [JAWS-Users] Using Outlook Express with gmail


Is anyone using Oe with gmaIl?  A friend is using Windows 7 and having 
problems getting OE to work with gmail.  He is using the settings in OE that 
are recommended but still OE refuses to retain his password.

Anyone have any ideas?

Arianna
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[JAWS-Users] importing my favourites

[Zoe Fiogkos]

Hi guys can anyone tell me how I can export my favorites from internet
explorer from a windows 7 laptop to a windows 10 laptop?
I have about 100 websites saved in my favourites on ie in windows 7 and now
that soom I will be retireing this laptop I need to transfer them to ie on
windows 10 on another laptop.  I do have a thumb drive I can use for the
transferring but I'm unsure about how to go about it.
Thanks again everyone for all your help.
Regards
Zoe
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Re: [JAWS-Users] auto update to windows 10

[Lenny McHugh]

It did the update. got to a screen where it asked if you wanted default 
settings or something like that there was no cancel option


-Original Message- 
From: Pinky

Sent: Thursday, March 10, 2016 12:27 AM
To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] auto update to windows 10

Hi,
I am not sure you could have W10 automatically install because you have to
do a few steps during the install process. Are you sure it is not the icon
down by the clock  in the system tray  and also a screen may come up telling
you about installing W10.  So my next question is are you sure it installed
W10? And if so how do you know it is using W10?

Ed

-Original Message-
From: JAWS-Users-List [mailto:jaws-users-list-boun...@jaws-users.com] On
Behalf Of Lenny McHugh
Sent: Wednesday, March 09, 2016 9:57 PM
To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] auto update to windows 10

He does not have openbook. The school installed zoomtext on his computer. I
had a demo copy of jaws 15 installed but have not needed access to his
computer in a very long time. There are some other programs installed. He
was told by the school not to install win 10 and now it is completely
installed and set up. Zoomtext did update and looks like it is running for
him. Not sure about everything else.

-Original Message-
From: TheHangMan
Sent: Wednesday, March 09, 2016 8:44 PM
To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] auto update to windows 10

Lenny,
If he was running jaws 16, 17 or have openbook installed, That would never
happen, like you say, automatically.
Because the upgrade would only get to about 25% complete and you would have
to cancel the install, or continue and remove the FS programs.
Jorge

-Original Message-
From: JAWS-Users-List [mailto:jaws-users-list-boun...@jaws-users.com] On
Behalf Of Lenny McHugh
Sent: Wednesday, March 09, 2016 7:53 PM
To: JFW List 
Subject: [JAWS-Users] auto update to windows 10

My grandson just turned his computer on and it automatically updated to
windows 10. How can he go back to windows 8.1? Some of his programs supplied
by the school and office for the blind will not work on windows 10.


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Re: [JAWS-Users] Hardware decTalk -- is it still usable?

[Kimberly]

It's a DecTalk express.

Sent from Kimber's iPhone

> On Mar 9, 2016, at 5:06 PM, Ward Dudley  wrote:
> 
> Kimber the DecTalk is still usable.   Do you have a DecTalk Express or a 
> DecTalk USB?  You can download the software.  As of right now it only works 
> up to Windows 7, no 10 yet.
> 
> Ward
>> On 3/9/2016 2:46 PM, Adrian Spratt wrote:
>> Kimber,
>> 
>> I agree about the Dectalk Express, which I use exclusively. JAWS 17 still 
>> recognizes it, and it works with my Win7 Dell.
>> 
>> However, I can't remember how I solved the connector issue, and getting at 
>> the back of my machine is a superhuman task fraught with risk!
>>  I hope someone who is less intimidated by gadgets will answer this part of 
>> your query.
>> 
>> -Original Message-
>> From: JAWS-Users-List [mailto:jaws-users-list-boun...@jaws-users.com] On 
>> Behalf Of Kimber Gardner
>> Sent: Wednesday, March 09, 2016 3:07 PM
>> To: jaws-users-list
>> Subject: [JAWS-Users] Hardware decTalk -- is it still usable?
>> 
>> Hi All,
>> 
>> I was cleaning out my office the other day (they are giving us new
>> carpet at work), and I found an old hardware DecTalk with a serial
>> connector. Now aside from the connector issue, is the hardware DecTalk
>> even supported anymore by Jaws? If so, is there a converter that will
>> allow me to connect it to my laptop?
>> 
>> In my opinion, the hardware DecTalk was the best speech ever so I am
>> really hoping it is still a viable option.
>> 
>> Thanks for any info.
>> 
>> Kimber
> 
> 
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[JAWS-Users] Using Outlook Express with gmail

[Arianna Calesso]

Is anyone using Oe with gmaIl?  A friend is using Windows 7 and having problems 
getting OE to work with gmail.  He is using the settings in OE that are 
recommended but still OE refuses to retain his password.

Anyone have any ideas?

Arianna 
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Re: [JAWS-Users] Another Openbook 9 Update, 9.0.1696.403

[Mike B.]

Hi David & Gerald,

Well, this new update would not install at all.  I must have tried 20 times, 
& this is no exageration!  Even FS tech support could  not get it to install 
on this computer.  I ended up having to repair Jaws 16 & Openbook to get my 
computer right again.  Neither update, OB9.0.1695.403 or, OB9.0.1696.403 
would install.  So, I'm back to 9.0.1543 after around 5 hours of wasted 
time.
Take care.
Mike
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- Original Message - 
From: Gerald Levy
To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
Sent: Thursday, March 10, 2016 3:55 AM
Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] Another Openbook 9 Update, 9.0.1696.403



I'm wondering whether this update will cause JAWS 16 to revert to the
Professional version in 40 minute demo mode like the previous update did.
After installing the previous update to Open Book, I had to re-authorize
JAWS to restore it to the Home Use version in normal, full mode.

Gerald



-Original Message- 
From: David Ferrin
Sent: Wednesday, March 09, 2016 7:56 PM
To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] Another Openbook 9 Update, 9.0.1696.403

Not the first time an update had an update.

David Ferrin
A complex system that does not work is invariably found to have evolved from
a simpler system that worked perfectly.

-Original Message-
From: JAWS-Users-List [mailto:jaws-users-list-boun...@jaws-users.com] On
Behalf Of Mike B.
Sent: Wednesday, March 09, 2016 7:54 PM
To: Jaws-Users List
Subject: [JAWS-Users] Another Openbook 9 Update, 9.0.1696.403

Hi All,

Below is the direct download link for this newest OB 9 update.  This update
was released Monday March 7, 2016, at least that's what was told to me by
Freedom Scientific tech support.  This update, OB9.0.1696.403, fixes
something from the February update, OB9.0.1695.403.  I couldn't find what
this update is supposed to fix from the prior version.

http://files.freedomscientific.com/WebFiles/AutoUpdate/OB9.0.1696.403-ENU.ex
e


Take care.
Mike
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Re: [JAWS-Users] Hardware decTalk -- is it still usable?

[ncbootman]

Thank you Dave. I'll be getting an adapter this weekend I hope. This is 
wonderful news.


Greg

-Original Message- 
From: Dave Carlson

Sent: Thursday, March 10, 2016 1:33 AM
To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] Hardware decTalk -- is it still usable?

Greg,

Don't need one. Once you have it connected to USB via the adapter, it can be
selected using JAWS. Go to JAWS/Utilities/Synthesizer and Braille Manager.

Dave Carlson
Oregonian, woodworker, Engineer, Musician, and Pioneer

- Original Message - 
From: 

To: 
Sent: Wednesday, March 09, 2016 07:54 PM
Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] Hardware decTalk -- is it still usable?


Dave,

Where do I get the software driver for the Dectalk Express or will the
original software still work with Windows 7? I loved my Dectalk on my xp
desktop and thought it was useless. I can get a serial to USB connector!

Greg

-Original Message- 
From: Dave Carlson

Sent: Wednesday, March 09, 2016 3:43 PM
To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] Hardware decTalk -- is it still usable?

There are USB-to-Serial dongles that are pretty reasonable in price. Then
JAWS will recognize the hardware using a serial port number. I have my
Dectalk Express set up that way.

Dave Carlson
Oregonian, woodworker, Engineer, Musician, and Pioneer

- Original Message - 
From: "Kimber Gardner" 

To: "jaws-users-list" 
Sent: Wednesday, March 09, 2016 12:06 PM
Subject: [JAWS-Users] Hardware decTalk -- is it still usable?


Hi All,

I was cleaning out my office the other day (they are giving us new
carpet at work), and I found an old hardware DecTalk with a serial
connector. Now aside from the connector issue, is the hardware DecTalk
even supported anymore by Jaws? If so, is there a converter that will
allow me to connect it to my laptop?

In my opinion, the hardware DecTalk was the best speech ever so I am
really hoping it is still a viable option.

Thanks for any info.

Kimber

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Re: [JAWS-Users] Hardware decTalk -- is it still usable?

[Adrian Spratt]

Unfortunately, Dectalk USB is nothing like the original Dectalk. Sad to say, 
it's several steps backwards.

-Original Message-
From: JAWS-Users-List [mailto:jaws-users-list-boun...@jaws-users.com] On Behalf 
Of Aidan
Sent: Thursday, March 10, 2016 5:46 AM
To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] Hardware decTalk -- is it still usable?

You can also buy the decTalk USb or the tripple talk u s b wich
simulate dubble talk. Its more compatible and there are windows8
drivers for those wich I asume will work with ten.

On 10/03/2016, Dave Carlson  wrote:
> Greg,
>
> Don't need one. Once you have it connected to USB via the adapter, it can be
>
> selected using JAWS. Go to JAWS/Utilities/Synthesizer and Braille Manager.
>
> Dave Carlson
> Oregonian, woodworker, Engineer, Musician, and Pioneer
>
> - Original Message -
> From: 
> To: 
> Sent: Wednesday, March 09, 2016 07:54 PM
> Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] Hardware decTalk -- is it still usable?
>
>
> Dave,
>
> Where do I get the software driver for the Dectalk Express or will the
> original software still work with Windows 7? I loved my Dectalk on my xp
> desktop and thought it was useless. I can get a serial to USB connector!
>
> Greg
>
> -Original Message-
> From: Dave Carlson
> Sent: Wednesday, March 09, 2016 3:43 PM
> To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
> Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] Hardware decTalk -- is it still usable?
>
> There are USB-to-Serial dongles that are pretty reasonable in price. Then
> JAWS will recognize the hardware using a serial port number. I have my
> Dectalk Express set up that way.
>
> Dave Carlson
> Oregonian, woodworker, Engineer, Musician, and Pioneer
>
> - Original Message -
> From: "Kimber Gardner" 
> To: "jaws-users-list" 
> Sent: Wednesday, March 09, 2016 12:06 PM
> Subject: [JAWS-Users] Hardware decTalk -- is it still usable?
>
>
> Hi All,
>
> I was cleaning out my office the other day (they are giving us new
> carpet at work), and I found an old hardware DecTalk with a serial
> connector. Now aside from the connector issue, is the hardware DecTalk
> even supported anymore by Jaws? If so, is there a converter that will
> allow me to connect it to my laptop?
>
> In my opinion, the hardware DecTalk was the best speech ever so I am
> really hoping it is still a viable option.
>
> Thanks for any info.
>
> Kimber
>
> --
> Kimberly
>
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>
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Re: [JAWS-Users] auto update to windows 10

[David Ferrin]

Now this is new and a bit annoying I must say.

David Ferrin
A complex system that does not work is invariably found to have evolved from
a simpler system that worked perfectly.


-Original Message-
From: JAWS-Users-List [mailto:jaws-users-list-boun...@jaws-users.com] On
Behalf Of Lynn White
Sent: Thursday, March 10, 2016 8:09 AM
To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] auto update to windows 10

No.  Actually it's getting to the point where people have been reporting
that, if you have checked recommended updates, Windows 10 automatically gets
installed.

On 3/9/2016 11:27 PM, Pinky wrote:
> Hi,
> I am not sure you could have W10 automatically install because you 
> have to do a few steps during the install process. Are you sure it is 
> not the icon down by the clock  in the system tray  and also a screen 
> may come up telling you about installing W10.  So my next question is 
> are you sure it installed W10? And if so how do you know it is using W10?
>
> Ed
>
> -Original Message-
> From: JAWS-Users-List [mailto:jaws-users-list-boun...@jaws-users.com] 
> On Behalf Of Lenny McHugh
> Sent: Wednesday, March 09, 2016 9:57 PM
> To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
> Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] auto update to windows 10
>
> He does not have openbook. The school installed zoomtext on his 
> computer. I had a demo copy of jaws 15 installed but have not needed 
> access to his computer in a very long time. There are some other 
> programs installed. He was told by the school not to install win 10 
> and now it is completely installed and set up. Zoomtext did update and 
> looks like it is running for him. Not sure about everything else.
>
> -Original Message-
> From: TheHangMan
> Sent: Wednesday, March 09, 2016 8:44 PM
> To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
> Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] auto update to windows 10
>
> Lenny,
> If he was running jaws 16, 17 or have openbook installed, That would 
> never happen, like you say, automatically.
> Because the upgrade would only get to about 25% complete and you would 
> have to cancel the install, or continue and remove the FS programs.
> Jorge
>
> -Original Message-
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> On Behalf Of Lenny McHugh
> Sent: Wednesday, March 09, 2016 7:53 PM
> To: JFW List 
> Subject: [JAWS-Users] auto update to windows 10
>
> My grandson just turned his computer on and it automatically updated 
> to windows 10. How can he go back to windows 8.1? Some of his programs 
> supplied by the school and office for the blind will not work on windows
10.
>
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Re: [JAWS-Users] Test message

[David Ferrin]

Well this message made the trip.

David Ferrin
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simpler system that worked perfectly.


-Original Message-
From: JAWS-Users-List [mailto:jaws-users-list-boun...@jaws-users.com] On Behalf 
Of Fred Adams
Sent: Thursday, March 10, 2016 8:09 AM
To: j-u jaws-users
Subject: [JAWS-Users] Test message

I am having problems staying on the jaws-users list without being bounced off.  
I have just resubscribed again and this is a test message to see if I am back 
on the list.  I posted a message to the list yesterday but so far I haven't 
seen it.

Thanks much, 

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Re: [JAWS-Users] auto update to windows 10

[David Ferrin]

My information is that it may download 10 without your permission it can't
install it unless you allow it to proceed. 

David Ferrin
A complex system that does not work is invariably found to have evolved from
a simpler system that worked perfectly.


-Original Message-
From: JAWS-Users-List [mailto:jaws-users-list-boun...@jaws-users.com] On
Behalf Of Pinky
Sent: Thursday, March 10, 2016 12:28 AM
To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] auto update to windows 10

Hi,
I am not sure you could have W10 automatically install because you have to
do a few steps during the install process. Are you sure it is not the icon
down by the clock  in the system tray  and also a screen may come up telling
you about installing W10.  So my next question is are you sure it installed
W10? And if so how do you know it is using W10?

Ed

-Original Message-
From: JAWS-Users-List [mailto:jaws-users-list-boun...@jaws-users.com] On
Behalf Of Lenny McHugh
Sent: Wednesday, March 09, 2016 9:57 PM
To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] auto update to windows 10

He does not have openbook. The school installed zoomtext on his computer. I
had a demo copy of jaws 15 installed but have not needed access to his
computer in a very long time. There are some other programs installed. He
was told by the school not to install win 10 and now it is completely
installed and set up. Zoomtext did update and looks like it is running for
him. Not sure about everything else.

-Original Message-
From: TheHangMan
Sent: Wednesday, March 09, 2016 8:44 PM
To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] auto update to windows 10

Lenny,
If he was running jaws 16, 17 or have openbook installed, That would never
happen, like you say, automatically.
Because the upgrade would only get to about 25% complete and you would have
to cancel the install, or continue and remove the FS programs.
Jorge

-Original Message-
From: JAWS-Users-List [mailto:jaws-users-list-boun...@jaws-users.com] On
Behalf Of Lenny McHugh
Sent: Wednesday, March 09, 2016 7:53 PM
To: JFW List 
Subject: [JAWS-Users] auto update to windows 10

My grandson just turned his computer on and it automatically updated to
windows 10. How can he go back to windows 8.1? Some of his programs supplied
by the school and office for the blind will not work on windows 10.


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Re: [JAWS-Users] Hardware DecTalk -- is it still usable?

[David Ferrin]

It has been some time since I last looked but I am fairly certain that the
drivers are still in JAWS as they have always been. I even have such an
animal in the closet that I didn't think worked any longer but then a friend
of mine suggested I remove the battery and is working again. I don't have it
connected up at this point, but it is an option.

David Ferrin
A complex system that does not work is invariably found to have evolved from
a simpler system that worked perfectly.


-Original Message-
From: JAWS-Users-List [mailto:jaws-users-list-boun...@jaws-users.com] On
Behalf Of Adrian Spratt
Sent: Wednesday, March 09, 2016 11:37 PM
To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] Hardware DecTalk -- is it still usable?

The last few times I've installed Dectalk Express, I've needed to install no
related software. There is no Dectalk software on my Win 7 machine, and the
synthesizer works fine. Once you have the connector, just plug it in. then
go to the JAWS synthesizer dialog to have it recognized. The default
settings in that dialog (i.e., the com port, etc.) are correct and, at least
in my case, created no conflict with other hardware.

I'm using JAWS 17. 

-Original Message-
From: JAWS-Users-List [mailto:jaws-users-list-boun...@jaws-users.com] On
Behalf Of ncboot...@gmail.com
Sent: Wednesday, March 09, 2016 10:54 PM
To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] Hardware decTalk -- is it still usable?

Dave,

Where do I get the software driver for the Dectalk Express or will the
original software still work with Windows 7? I loved my Dectalk on my xp
desktop and thought it was useless. I can get a serial to USB connector!

Greg

-Original Message-
From: Dave Carlson
Sent: Wednesday, March 09, 2016 3:43 PM
To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] Hardware decTalk -- is it still usable?

There are USB-to-Serial dongles that are pretty reasonable in price. Then
JAWS will recognize the hardware using a serial port number. I have my
Dectalk Express set up that way.

Dave Carlson
Oregonian, woodworker, Engineer, Musician, and Pioneer

- Original Message -
From: "Kimber Gardner" 
To: "jaws-users-list" 
Sent: Wednesday, March 09, 2016 12:06 PM
Subject: [JAWS-Users] Hardware decTalk -- is it still usable?


Hi All,

I was cleaning out my office the other day (they are giving us new
carpet at work), and I found an old hardware DecTalk with a serial
connector. Now aside from the connector issue, is the hardware DecTalk
even supported anymore by Jaws? If so, is there a converter that will
allow me to connect it to my laptop?

In my opinion, the hardware DecTalk was the best speech ever so I am
really hoping it is still a viable option.

Thanks for any info.

Kimber

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Re: [JAWS-Users] auto update to windows 10

[Lynn White]

No.  Actually it's getting to the point where people have been reporting 
that, if you have checked recommended updates, Windows 10 automatically 
gets installed.


On 3/9/2016 11:27 PM, Pinky wrote:

Hi,
I am not sure you could have W10 automatically install because you have to
do a few steps during the install process. Are you sure it is not the icon
down by the clock  in the system tray  and also a screen may come up telling
you about installing W10.  So my next question is are you sure it installed
W10? And if so how do you know it is using W10?

Ed

-Original Message-
From: JAWS-Users-List [mailto:jaws-users-list-boun...@jaws-users.com] On
Behalf Of Lenny McHugh
Sent: Wednesday, March 09, 2016 9:57 PM
To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] auto update to windows 10

He does not have openbook. The school installed zoomtext on his computer. I
had a demo copy of jaws 15 installed but have not needed access to his
computer in a very long time. There are some other programs installed. He
was told by the school not to install win 10 and now it is completely
installed and set up. Zoomtext did update and looks like it is running for
him. Not sure about everything else.

-Original Message-
From: TheHangMan
Sent: Wednesday, March 09, 2016 8:44 PM
To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] auto update to windows 10

Lenny,
If he was running jaws 16, 17 or have openbook installed, That would never
happen, like you say, automatically.
Because the upgrade would only get to about 25% complete and you would have
to cancel the install, or continue and remove the FS programs.
Jorge

-Original Message-
From: JAWS-Users-List [mailto:jaws-users-list-boun...@jaws-users.com] On
Behalf Of Lenny McHugh
Sent: Wednesday, March 09, 2016 7:53 PM
To: JFW List 
Subject: [JAWS-Users] auto update to windows 10

My grandson just turned his computer on and it automatically updated to
windows 10. How can he go back to windows 8.1? Some of his programs supplied
by the school and office for the blind will not work on windows 10.


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[JAWS-Users] Test message

[Fred Adams]

I am having problems staying on the jaws-users list without being bounced off.  
I have just resubscribed again and this is a test message to see if I am back 
on the list.  I posted a message to the list yesterday but so far I haven't 
seen it.

Thanks much, 

FRED C. ADAMS W4HC
US ARMY AIRBORNE RET
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Re: [JAWS-Users] This is a test

[David Ferrin]

Although we don't discourage test messages all that much, the fact is this
list is high enough traffic that they should not be needed all that much. So
let's keep them to a minimum if possible, thanks.

David Ferrin
A complex system that does not work is invariably found to have evolved from
a simpler system that worked perfectly.

-Original Message-
From: JAWS-Users-List [mailto:jaws-users-list-boun...@jaws-users.com] On
Behalf Of Pinky
Sent: Wednesday, March 09, 2016 8:14 PM
To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] This is a test

When are we taking this test?

-Original Message-
From: JAWS-Users-List [mailto:jaws-users-list-boun...@jaws-users.com] On
Behalf Of petras
Sent: Wednesday, March 09, 2016 6:55 PM
To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] This is a test

Yes, you are on the list.

 - Original Message -
From: "T.  Civitello" 

Re: [JAWS-Users] Hardware decTalk -- is it still usable?

[Aidan]

You can also buy the decTalk USb or the tripple talk u s b wich
simulate dubble talk. Its more compatible and there are windows8
drivers for those wich I asume will work with ten.

On 10/03/2016, Dave Carlson  wrote:
> Greg,
>
> Don't need one. Once you have it connected to USB via the adapter, it can be
>
> selected using JAWS. Go to JAWS/Utilities/Synthesizer and Braille Manager.
>
> Dave Carlson
> Oregonian, woodworker, Engineer, Musician, and Pioneer
>
> - Original Message -
> From: 
> To: 
> Sent: Wednesday, March 09, 2016 07:54 PM
> Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] Hardware decTalk -- is it still usable?
>
>
> Dave,
>
> Where do I get the software driver for the Dectalk Express or will the
> original software still work with Windows 7? I loved my Dectalk on my xp
> desktop and thought it was useless. I can get a serial to USB connector!
>
> Greg
>
> -Original Message-
> From: Dave Carlson
> Sent: Wednesday, March 09, 2016 3:43 PM
> To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
> Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] Hardware decTalk -- is it still usable?
>
> There are USB-to-Serial dongles that are pretty reasonable in price. Then
> JAWS will recognize the hardware using a serial port number. I have my
> Dectalk Express set up that way.
>
> Dave Carlson
> Oregonian, woodworker, Engineer, Musician, and Pioneer
>
> - Original Message -
> From: "Kimber Gardner" 
> To: "jaws-users-list" 
> Sent: Wednesday, March 09, 2016 12:06 PM
> Subject: [JAWS-Users] Hardware decTalk -- is it still usable?
>
>
> Hi All,
>
> I was cleaning out my office the other day (they are giving us new
> carpet at work), and I found an old hardware DecTalk with a serial
> connector. Now aside from the connector issue, is the hardware DecTalk
> even supported anymore by Jaws? If so, is there a converter that will
> allow me to connect it to my laptop?
>
> In my opinion, the hardware DecTalk was the best speech ever so I am
> really hoping it is still a viable option.
>
> Thanks for any info.
>
> Kimber
>
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[JAWS-Users] test for bounce

[T. Civitello]

My messages to the list have been bouncing. This time I clicked on the link in 
the list welcome message. If this doesn’t work I will try the list owner.  Tom

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