Re: [JAWS-Users] jaws and freezing

[John Justice]

I don't want to overwhelm this serious issue with inherently worthless
responses.  However, technicians at VFO  have told me that the issue is
"under the hood"  so to speak.  Apparently, the newer versions of Jaws have
been redesigned in such a way that their headroom can be inundated by
software which requires more than normal functionality.  In other words, the
more complex the software, the higher degree of probability that Jaws might
freeze or even crash under certain conditions.  On the other hand, I have
noticed that with jaws 18, the program will often recover itself without any
prompting.  The freezing is annoying but if we can be reassured that Jaws
will recover, it might be something we'll just have to put up with until the
designers find a way to deal with it.  Personally, I think that Jaws had
made some amazing progress recently.  I have no reason to think that the
designers won't continue to make it a better program.  

JOHN AND LINDA JUSTICE
WITH GUIDE DOGS EDWIN AND CALYPSO
PERSONAL E-MAIL:  john_just...@verizon.net

-Original Message-
From: JAWS-Users-List [mailto:jaws-users-list-boun...@jaws-users.com] On
Behalf Of Vicki W.
Sent: Sunday, January 28, 2018 7:23 AM
To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] jaws and freezing

JAWS 14 does the same thing.

I tought it might have something to do with my NOD32.


- Original Message - 
From: "Dave...Oregonian" 
To: 
Sent: Saturday, January 27, 2018 8:59 PM
Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] jaws and freezing


> ...any version since 17.
>
> Dave
> Oregonian, woodworker, Engineer, Musician, and Pioneer
>
>
> - Original Message - 
> From: "George Martinez Sr" 
> To: 
> Sent: Saturday, January 27, 2018 13:26
> Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] jaws and freezing
>
>
> Just got home & saw this meeting but I am wondering WHICH version of JAWS 
> is
> freezing?
>
> George A. Martinez, CPA
> O-602.368.8854
> F-206.666.2589
> C-602.368.5424
> "I've learnedThat everyone wants to live on top of the mountain, but 
> all
> the happiness and growth occurs while you're climbing it." attributed to
> Andy Rooney
>
> -Original Message-
> From: JAWS-Users-List [mailto:jaws-users-list-boun...@jaws-users.com] On
> Behalf Of Kimsan
> Sent: Saturday, January 27, 2018 12:05 PM
> To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
> Subject: [JAWS-Users] jaws and freezing
>
> Hello:
>
>
>
> This week, I'm noticing jaws just randomly freezes on me. I could be 
> reading
> an email, surfing the web, writing in word, yelling at the dog, and poof 
> it
> would just stop working.
>
> I would do the jaws dump command and then try to bring it back with the
> hotkey but it doesn't come back up, unless I reboot. Thoughts?
>
>
>
>
>
> If you are a wrestling fan, I invite you to visit my wrestling site for
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[JAWS-Users] A REALLY DECENT SCANNER

[John Justice]

Hi group,

First of all, Merry Christmas to everyone.

Santa brought me a really nice flatbed scanner for Christmas.  I didn't know
that they were still made.

This is an Epson Perfection.  It has quite a few advantages over the older
scanners I have used.

First of all, the Epson Perfection no longer requires separate AC
attachments.

The disk holding the drivers will install automatically.  It adds an icon to
your desktop for their built-in  software package.  However, it works quite
well with Open Book.

The scanner is small, light and very quiet.

 

For some scanning operations, I still prefer a flatbed scanner over the
Pearl Camera.  What's more, this thing is now on sale at Best Buy for under
$100.   

 

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[JAWS-Users] A QUICK ACCESS TO ATTACHMENTS USING MICROSOFT OUTLOOK

[John Justice]

A QUICK ACCESS TO ATTACHMENTS USING MICROSOFT OUTLOOK
BY: JOHN JUSTICE

Outlook offers an easy way to view, read or save attachments.  This
process works on any attachment, text or audio.  
1.   Open the e-mail message in Microsoft Outlook.
2.  SHIFT+TAB to the list of attachments. That list will include the
message itself.
3.  Use the right arrow to highlight the attachment to be read or
listened to
4.  Press Enter to activate whichever app will be used to access that
attachment.

With audio attachments, the default player is Windows Media Player.  For
Word documents, Outlook will open a Word based document in that environment
automatically.
If the attachment is in text format, Notepad is the default application.
NOTE:  This process will not automatically save the attachment.  It will
simply open it for you.  To save the attachment, press CONTROL+S and follow
the prompts.
FORWARDING AN E-MAIL ATTACHMENT USING MICROSOFT OUTLOOK
 Outlook will still show the list of attachments on a separate screen.
Focus on that screen and press Escape to close the display.  To forward a
message including the attachment, 
1.   Return to the list of messages.
2.  Press CONTROL+F to activate the Forwarding option
3.  Type the destination e-mail address
4.  Tab to the message body and press ALT+S to send the message.
   

JOHN AND LINDA JUSTICE
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-Original Message-
From: JAWS-Users-List [mailto:jaws-users-list-boun...@jaws-users.com] On
Behalf Of Mr. Ed
Sent: Sunday, December 25, 2016 10:58 AM
To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] Recent Jaws issue with typing and focus jumping
around

Hi,
I have been having this issue for some time typing in messages in Outlook
2010. What email client are you using?
Mr. Ed

-Original Message-
From: JAWS-Users-List [mailto:jaws-users-list-boun...@jaws-users.com] On
Behalf Of Cristóbal
Sent: Saturday, December 24, 2016 10:33 PM
To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
Subject: [JAWS-Users] Recent Jaws issue with typing and focus jumping around

Hello list,

So I don’t know what I may have done, but for the last few days, I have been
experiencing an incredibly annoying issue with Jaws and composing Outlook
messages.

When I begin to type, the first few letters are spoken by jaws even though
I’ve always had this setting to echo speech off. The more frustrating thing
is that focus will jump around and what I type is spread out all over the
document. This is especially annoying when I’m working off a template text
and have to go hunt for the stray letters.

The thing is, if I type the first couple of letters and then erase them,
everything works fine. 

I have to believe that in all my typing, I must have accidentally enabled
some sort of odd setting since this has only been a recent issue and I don’t
experience it in a standard Word document. Only in Outlook messages. My
version of Outlook is 2010 and my messages are set to HTML. I am using the
most recent version of Jaws 18.

Does anyone have an idea of what may be causing this issue or what setting I
might try to change to fix it? That or is there some sort of set to default
setting in Outlook for composing messages?

Thanks,

 

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Re: [JAWS-Users] ODD PROBLEM WITH JAWS 18, LATEST BUILD

[John Justice]

Good one, Glen.  It was a clean install in both cases.  This is a new
computer and at work, Jaws was loaded from the program disk.  However, I did
simply download and install the latest updates.


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-Original Message-
From: JAWS-Users-List [mailto:jaws-users-list-boun...@jaws-users.com] On
Behalf Of Dialup@56k
Sent: Friday, December 16, 2016 10:31 AM
To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] ODD PROBLEM WITH JAWS 18, LATEST BUILD

John
Just curious:  Was your JFW 18 a clean install or upgrade from previous
version?
Glen

***

On 17-Dec-2016 1:26 pm, john_Justice wrote:
> I was wondering if anyone else has experienced this issue.  This 
> latest build of Jaws 18 seems to lock up quite a bit.  This happens 
> here at home and at work.  In both cases, I'm using the same jaws and 
> doing similar things.  Suddenly, Jaws will stop talking.  That happens 
> especially when I have several screens operating simultaneously.  I'm 
> wondering if too much RAM is being used and that is what shuts down 
> Jaws.  It will normally respond to the Start Jaws command but not always.
>
> I'm running Windows 10 64 byt at home and Windows 7 enterprise at 
> work.  If anyone has some idea of what's going on here, I'd appreciate the
help.
>
>
>
> Here's another odd thing.  The longer I type in a message with Outlook 
> 2016, the slower Jaws reacts.  Now, when I finish typing a word, Jaws 
> repeats it but almost a full second after the last letter is typed.  
> Why, in Heaven's name, would that happen?
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
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Re: [JAWS-Users] ODD PROBLEM WITH JAWS 18, LATEST BUILD

[John Justice]

I'll do that today.  I was hoping for a more immediate solution, however.  

JOHN AND LINDA JUSTICE
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-Original Message-
From: JAWS-Users-List [mailto:jaws-users-list-boun...@jaws-users.com] On
Behalf Of Kevin
Sent: Friday, December 16, 2016 10:01 PM
To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] ODD PROBLEM WITH JAWS 18, LATEST BUILD

I get the same problem, I've been meaning to contact vfo about it, but I
have no idea of how to word it!  could I suggest you send your message to
FS?

-Original Message-
From: john_Justice
Sent: Friday, December 16, 2016 6:26 PM
To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
Subject: [JAWS-Users] ODD PROBLEM WITH JAWS 18, LATEST BUILD

I was wondering if anyone else has experienced this issue.  This latest
build of Jaws 18 seems to lock up quite a bit.  This happens here at home
and at work.  In both cases, I'm using the same jaws and doing similar
things.  Suddenly, Jaws will stop talking.  That happens especially when I
have several screens operating simultaneously.  I'm wondering if too much
RAM is being used and that is what shuts down Jaws.  It will normally
respond to the Start Jaws command but not always.

I'm running Windows 10 64 byt at home and Windows 7 enterprise at work.  If
anyone has some idea of what's going on here, I'd appreciate the help.



Here's another odd thing.  The longer I type in a message with Outlook 2016,
the slower Jaws reacts.  Now, when I finish typing a word, Jaws repeats it
but almost a full second after the last letter is typed.  Why, in Heaven's
name, would that happen?









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Re: [JAWS-Users] ODD PROBLEM WITH JAWS 18, LATEST BUILD

[John Justice]

Good advice, Jason.  I'll do that right away.  Thanks.


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-Original Message-
From: JAWS-Users-List [mailto:jaws-users-list-boun...@jaws-users.com] On
Behalf Of Jason White
Sent: Saturday, December 17, 2016 10:12 AM
To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] ODD PROBLEM WITH JAWS 18, LATEST BUILD

john_Justice  wrote:
> I was wondering if anyone else has experienced this issue.  This 
> latest build of Jaws 18 seems to lock up quite a bit.


This has happened to me following JAWS updates. The solution is to reinstall
by running a JAWS repair of the same version of JAWS which is already
installed.

Essentially, you download the installer for the correct version of JAWS,
then
run it with "/type repair" specified on the command line.


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[JAWS-Users] E BOOKS

[John Justice]

I hope someone can helpt me with this.  I'm using Windows 8.1 and Jaws 17.
I have never purchased or been exposed to an E Book.  

1.What kind of special software will I need to read an e book?

2.   I'm aware of Kindle but there are many different types.  If that is
the best choice of software , which version of Kindle would be best
regarding compatibility with a screen reader?

 

 

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Re: [JAWS-Users] Settings, Accounts, Part 5 of 9

[John Justice]

Jim,
I'll make this quick.  Can you please send me the details for your group?
I'd sincerely appreciate it.


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-Original Message-
From: JAWS-Users-List [mailto:jaws-users-list-boun...@jaws-users.com] On
Behalf Of jim
Sent: Thursday, October 15, 2015 8:38 PM
To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] Settings, Accounts, Part 5 of 9

Hi Kert,
No, it will not work, it wraps around to the next line.
Like I said, my Moderator did not realize he was not to share my OnedDrive
link here, I told David I would not share it for this reason.
It is not fair to crowd this list with extra traffic about my group link.
So, if you want the link, join my group, let David's alone with this issue.
Again, sorry David for the extra traffic...


-Original Message- 
From: Kurt Miller
Sent: Thursday, October 15, 2015 8:20 PM
To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] Settings, Accounts, Part 5 of 9

I just tried it also and it told me also that there was an error.
Kurt

-Original Message-
From: JAWS-Users-List [mailto:jaws-users-list-boun...@jaws-users.com] On
Behalf Of Alan Robbins
Sent: Thursday, October 15, 2015 8:15 PM
To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] Settings, Accounts, Part 5 of 9

Mario,

Not sure, I tested in the response before I sent it and it worked fine. Here
it is again:
https://onedrive.live.com/?cid=109032a085bb3ce2=109032A08
5BB3CE2%21130=%21AOrgD5LmQr72KPA

best,
Al

-Original Message-
From: JAWS-Users-List
[mailto:jaws-users-list-boun...@jaws-users.com] On Behalf Of Mario
Sent: Thursday, October 15, 2015 8:10 PM
To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] Settings, Accounts, Part 5 of 9

I noticed the address you gave was broken, so I copied it and pasted it in a
notepad file, deleted the blanks, and then pasted it in Firefox or Internet
Explorer and got:
error/error4
Something went wrong

what am I doing wrong?


On 10/15/2015 7:23 PM, Alan Robbins wrote:
> Morey,
>
> Check this out:
>
https://onedrive.live.com/?cid=109032a085bb3ce2=109032A08
> 5BB3CE2%21130=%21AOrgD5LmQr72KPA
>
> best,
> Al
>
> -Original Message-
> From: JAWS-Users-List
> [mailto:jaws-users-list-boun...@jaws-users.com] On Behalf
Of Morey
> Worthington
> Sent: Thursday, October 15, 2015 7:16 PM
> To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
> Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] Settings, Accounts, Part 5 of 9
>
> Hi all,
> Where may I get the other parts of the helpful hints
displayed in this
> message?
> They sure do mean alot of me as a new W10 user using Jaws
16 and 17.
> Thanks
> Morey Worthington
>
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Re: [JAWS-Users] is Avast! better than windows defender?

[John Justice]

Charles,
I started using the free version of Avast about 7 months ago.  The interface
isn't perfect by any means but the latest version is quite navigable.  I
have been tempted to upgrade to the paid version since the one I am
currently using is excellent.  For a while, I was using Microsoft Essentials
but I had several problems involving Internet Explorer corruption.  
 after I ran the free Avast, those problems went away.
You may find it necessary to navigate the interface with your Jaws cursor
rather than the system cursor.  However, in the latest version, updated on
the 21st of October, if you use your Jaws cursor to click on Scan, an easily
navigable list comes up and you can choose what you'd like to do.  One of
the options is something called Smart Scan.  This is a combination of a
quick scan and a review of your software.  If anything requires updating,
Avast will give you that option.
  

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-Original Message-
From: JAWS-Users-List [mailto:jaws-users-list-boun...@jaws-users.com] On
Behalf Of Charles Krugman
Sent: Sunday, October 18, 2015 12:37 PM
To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] is Avast! better than windows defender?

Did Avast get their accessibility issues corrected because for a while it
wasn't accessible by screen reader users?
Chuck

-Original Message-
From: randy tijerina
Sent: Friday, October 16, 2015 7:44 PM
To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
Subject: [JAWS-Users] is Avast! better than windows defender?

Hi friendsi have windows defender on my windows 10 pc
I'm thinking of using Avast!.
is that ok to install?
or is windowd defender just as good...or, better?


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Re: [JAWS-Users] Upgrading to JAWS 16

[John Justice]

Hi Kate,
I'll answer each question in the sequence you provided.


I need to know how to save the new version to my desktop and how to create a
hot key for it.
If you install Jaws 16 on your computer, it will automatically create a
desktop icon for you. Freedom Scientific assumes that you will want to use
the new software right away.

Can I leave the old version of JAWS on the desktop?
Yes, you can.  They will be marked Jaws 13 and Jaws 16.

Also will my computer start up each time with the new version of JAWS?
It will if you set it up that way.  
After installing Jaws 16, presss INSERT+J to reach the Jaws window.  You
will be presented with a menu.  If you press ALT+O  you'll be taken to the
Options menu.  The first choice in that menu is Basics. The title is
followed by three dots.  That means that you have to press Enter to open the
menu.  
Within that menu, is a submenu called Automatically Start Jaws. Activate it
by pressin your spacebar.  The first option is to start Jaws automatically.
That is a check box and you press the spacebar to check it.
There are other options as well.  If you are the only one who uses Jaws on
your computer, choose Start Jaws for All Users.  Some of these settings are
already chosen. Jaws 13 will still be on your system but 16 will now start
automatically.  Jaws takes up quite a bit of space on your hard drive, Kate.
But I certainly do understand that you might want to return to Jaws 13 until
you are completely familiar with version 16.

Are there any major changes from JAWS 13 TO 16?
Yes there are.  The best way to learn about the new features and
capabilities would be to read the What's New In Jaws 16 choice in your Help
menu.  Jaws 16 comes with a full set of instruction books, also available in
the Help menu.  Some of them are Daisy books which will speak automatically.
To access the Jaws Help menu in version 16, Press INSERT+J  to reach the
Jaws window.
Press alt+h   to access the Help menu and use your up and down arrows to
choose the topic you'd like to hear.  If you press Enter while focused on
one of those options, the reader will start automatically.  If you are
unfamiliar with a Daisy player, it works like Windows Media Player.  You can
stop the reading by pressing CONTROL+p. That command also starts the reading
again.  To shut down and close the reader, press CONTROL+S.
If you need more help with the reader, there's a complete manual describing
how to use it in the Help menu.

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[JAWS-Users] EXPORTING CONTACTS FROM OUTLOOK 2010

[John Justice]

One of the members requested the procedure for exporting contacts from
Outlook 2010.  I apologize for the delayed response.

 

EXPORTING CONTACTS FROM OUTLOOK 2010

 

1.Press ALT+F for the File menu.

2.   Locate the Options menu and press Enter to open it.

3.   Down arrow to Advanced.

4.   Tab to Export and press spacebar to open the menu.

5.   Use the Jaws cursor to locate the Export options.  Choose Export a
file then press spacebar on Next to confirm.

6.   Under Create a File of type, choose what type of file you want to
use 
NOTE:  Outlook uses a specific file type for direct transfer of contacts.
That is a .pst file.  The most commonly used option here would be comma
Separated Values (Windows).  There is also a file type called Tab Separated
Values, (Windows).  Press spacebar on Next to confirm.

7.   Select Contacts folder to export from and press spacebar on Next to
confirm.

8.   Under Save Exported file as, choose Browse and select destination
folder.  In the File Name box, enter a name.

9.   Locate the Okay button and press Enter.

10.   Press spacebar on Next.

11.   Press spacebar on Finish.

 

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Re: [JAWS-Users] creating a signature in Outlook 2010

[John Justice]

You're right, Mario.

1.  Press ALT+f  FOR THE FILE MENU AND PRESS THE LETTER t TO REACH THE Back
Stage section.
2.  Tab to Signatures and press the spacebar.
3. The system will give you the opportunity to add a new signature or modify
one which already exists.
4.  Tab to New and press Enter.
5.  You will be asked to name the signature.  She can use her name or
anything else which is appropriate.
6. There are options which ask you if you want the signature to be applied
on outgoing messages and on returns.  To make sure that the signature will
come up on those messages, choose the signature you have just created.
7. You will have the option to use whichever font you would like and choose
the size.  If she doesn't want to get involved with that, just keep tabbing.

You can also tab past the options to make the signature bold or written in
italics.  
8.  Finally, you will come to an Edit box where the signature is to be
recorded.  You can type anything in the box but I recommend that you use
only the necessary information and keep the signature as compact as
possible.

Well, that's it, Mario.  If you have any questions, just e-mail me off list.


JOHN AND LINDA JUSTICE
PERSONAL E-MAIL:  john_just...@verizon.net


-Original Message-
From: JAWS-Users-List [mailto:jaws-users-list-boun...@jaws-users.com] On
Behalf Of Mario
Sent: Tuesday, September 15, 2015 7:06 AM
To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
Subject: [JAWS-Users] creating a signature in Outlook 2010

a friend of mine wants to have a signature appended to her emails. she uses
two accounts but I'm not sure if she wants the signature to apply to emails
for one account or both. she knows she has to go to settings but she gets
stuck. I think she's in the wrong place. isn't it alt+f t and down arrow to
mail... and then what?
please provide the steps that are necessary so I can help her?

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Re: [JAWS-Users] creating a signature in Outlook 2010

[John Justice]

That's a good alternative, Kimmer.  Thanks.


JOHN AND LINDA JUSTICE
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-Original Message-
From: JAWS-Users-List [mailto:jaws-users-list-boun...@jaws-users.com] On
Behalf Of Kimber Gardner
Sent: Tuesday, September 15, 2015 7:59 AM
To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] creating a signature in Outlook 2010

Hi,

This may seem a bit convoluted, but it's not too bad really.

Create a new message -- alt H, N
Go to the insert tab -- alt N and arrow down once to the incllude box Arrow
right until you reach the signature dropdown and press enter.
You'll find yourself on the word signatures followed by an ellipses.
Press enter. You are now in the email signatures tab.
Tab three or four times until you get to the "new" button and press enter.
Once you've done that, you will be in an edit box where you want to type the
name of the signature, like My Sigline or whatever.
Type the name then tab to ok and hit enter.
Now you will find yourself in a tab with all sorts of options like which
account you want the new signature associated with, the font, alignment,
whether you want the signature added to replies or forwards etc. The last
tab before ok is the edit box where you will type the text of the signature.
Once you type the text, tab to ok and press enter.

If you have questions, let me know.

Kimber

On 9/15/15, Mario  wrote:
> a friend of mine wants to have a signature appended to her emails. she 
> uses two accounts but I'm not sure if she wants the signature to apply 
> to emails for one account or both. she knows she has to go to settings 
> but she gets stuck. I think she's in the wrong place. isn't it alt+f t 
> and down arrow to mail... and then what?
> please provide the steps that are necessary so I can help her?
>
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> http://www.jaws-users.com/help/
>


--
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Re: [JAWS-Users] How to save contact in Outlook 2010

[John Justice]

SAVING CONTACTS IN OUTLOOK 2010
1.  To create a contact, pres CONTROL+SHIFT+C.
2.  Once you have completed the fields, press CONTROL+S  to save the
contact.
3.  You can access your contacts in two separate places.
A. Locate the Contacts folder in your Folders list, CONTROL+Y
B.  Additional contacts may be located in a folder called Suggested
Contacts, also found on the Folders list.

If your system is set up for this purpose, your contact will automatically
be suggested when you begin typing it into the To field.

NOTE:  As you move through the fields, you will find the option to show the
contact name in various ways.  You can choose which you prefer by arrowing
down the list of options, then moving on to the next entry.  Outlook offers
many fields which I don't use such as phone numbers, web addresses and so
on.  

HTH 
 

JOHN AND LINDA JUSTICE
PERSONAL E-MAIL:  john_just...@verizon.net

-Original Message-
From: JAWS-Users-List [mailto:jaws-users-list-boun...@jaws-users.com] On
Behalf Of Pinky
Sent: Monday, September 14, 2015 5:22 PM
To: JAWS-Users-List 2
Subject: [JAWS-Users] How to save contact in Outlook 2010

Hi Everyone,

Can someone give me step by step how to save my contact list in Outlook
2010.

 

Thanks in advance

 

Ed

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[JAWS-Users] A GOOD AND ACCESSIBLE ANTI-VIRUS PROGRAM

[John Justice]

I have been using Avast as my anti-virus protection.  It also looks for
unwanted programs or for software which needs updating.

There is a free version and recent updates have made it quite accessible for
Jaws users.

It also has its own voice and sound elements.  I am very pleased with the
results and with  the accessible status of Avast.  The web site is below.

 

http://www.avast.com

 

IMPORTANT NOTE:

There are two Avast versions.  The second version does have a charge but
it's even more effective than the free software.

 

 

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Re: [JAWS-Users] THE FN KEY ON AN HP COMPUTER

[John Justice]

Ann,
It should work the same way.  The FN key sends a signal to the HP processor,
telling it to perform different functions when that key is pressed.


John and linda justice
Personal e-mail: john_just...@verizon.net 

-Original Message-
From: JAWS-Users-List [mailto:jaws-users-list-boun...@jaws-users.com] On
Behalf Of Ann Medlar
Sent: Wednesday, September 9, 2015 3:52 PM
To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] THE FN KEY ON AN HP COMPUTER

Thanks but this is a desktop keyboard.  I'll just use windows key on left
side.  I wish I knew before I bought computer.  

-Original Message-
From: JAWS-Users-List [mailto:jaws-users-list-boun...@jaws-users.com] On
Behalf Of John Justice
Sent: Tuesday, September 8, 2015 3:48 PM
To: Jaws Users E-mail List <jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com>
Subject: [JAWS-Users] THE FN KEY ON AN HP COMPUTER

Jawes doesn't recognize or speak this key because, as noted in previous
messages, it has no recognizable function.  However, when used with the
function keys, it will allow the user to activate certain original
functionality. It acts like a Shift key.  

In a standard HP laptop,  the key is pressed in combination with the
function keys.  When that happens, Jaws will announce the function such as
Refresh, Windows Active List, System Tray, etc.  

Without that FN key, those keys are programmed to activate other Windows
based functions.  When that happens, Jaws may or may not react to the change
initiated.  Certainly, if a key is pressed and new information appears on
the screen, Jaws will respond as normal by attempting to speak parts of the
new data displayed.

 

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Re: [JAWS-Users] New recordings using Jaws with various programs

[John Justice]

Excellent work, Jim.
I'd like to suggest a possible change to the way you are recording which
will improve the quality of the sound.
There are audio mixers available which would allow you to send the signal
from your PC and your voice into a hard wired connection.  In doing so, the
recording software would have a much cleaner signal to process.  

This is in no way a criticism.  Your work and delivery is top notch.
I'm a professional musician and for me, getting the best sound available is
important.
If you'd like to try this suggestion, please e-mail me off list and I can
research what is currently available for you.
Keep up the good work.


John and linda justice
Personal e-mail: john_just...@verizon.net 

-Original Message-
From: JAWS-Users-List [mailto:jaws-users-list-boun...@jaws-users.com] On
Behalf Of jim
Sent: Tuesday, September 8, 2015 2:09 PM
To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] New recordings using Jaws with various programs

Hi Mike,
You should not have to sign in.
But for some reason, some people do, depends on their set up or something,
not sure.
Time for more coffee...ahahahah

-Original Message-
From: Mike B.
Sent: Tuesday, September 08, 2015 2:00 PM
To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] New recordings using Jaws with various programs

Hi Jim,

Thank you very much for these tutorials.  I'll get to use them once I update
to Win10.  Also, I downloaded your recordings without having to sign into
anything.  I don't have a Microsoft account, to my knowledge anyways!  LOL
LOL Thanks again.
Take care.
Mike
This email was sent from my, iBarstool.  Go Dodgers!

- Original Message -
From: jim
To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
Sent: Tuesday, September 08, 2015 10:29 AM
Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] New recordings using Jaws with various programs


You need to sign in to your microsoft account.
While there, go to sign in...

-Original Message- 
From: Mario
Sent: Tuesday, September 08, 2015 12:21 PM
To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] New recordings using Jaws with various programs

I got the following:

"This item might not exist or is no longer available"





On 9/8/2015 12:01 PM, jim wrote:
> Good morning Jaws Users group:
> I thought that I would share these how to, recordings with you.
> See download link below my explanation.
> Lesson: Using Windows live mail with Jaws audio.
> I show you how the view settings should be set.
> I show you the various ways to set up and navigate WLM.
> Lesson: Using iTunes 12.2 with Jaws audio 1.
> I show you how the view settings should be set up for easiest use of
> iTunes 12.2.
> I show you around the music, podcast, and internet radio windows.
> Lesson: Using iTunes 12.2 with Jaws audio 2.
> I show you how to use the iTunes store to play demo tracks of albums,  and
> how to search and how to buy music.
> These are the 3 latest audio recordings, on how to use various programs
> with Jaws in w-10.
> After downloading them.
> Go to your download folder.
> highlight the audio file to listen to first.
> Press the application key.
> Down arrow to open with sub menu, press right arrow key one time.
> If you are using w-10, down arrow to voice recorder and press enter.
> The recording will start playing, you can also use windows media player to
> listen to these files.
> If using Windows 7, 8, or 8.1, down arrow to windows media player, and
> press enter.
> Let me know what you think about the recordings.
> I try to cover as much as possible, while trying to move slow enough for
> you to follow.
> here is the link:
>
>
https://onedrive.live.com/redir?resid=109032A085BB3CE2!130=!AOrgD5Lm
Qr72KPA=folder%2ctxt
>
> Join our new yahoo group, Windows 10 and jaws at:
>
> windows-10-and-jaws-subscr...@yahoogroups.co.in
>
> A Ballast for My Soul
>
> Life is like a stormy sea
> That tosses to and fro,
> But God's Word will ever be
> A ballast for my soul.
>
> By its truth I'll be held fast
> Till I reach heaven's shore
> Where I will be home at last
> And sail life's sea no more!
>
> author: Perry Boardman
>
> THE OHIO STATE BUCKEYES
> First College football Playoff National champions!!!
>
> GO BUCKS!!!
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[JAWS-Users] THE FN KEY ON AN HP COMPUTER

[John Justice]

Jawes doesn't recognize or speak this key because, as noted in previous
messages, it has no recognizable function.  However, when used with the
function keys, it will allow the user to activate certain original
functionality. It acts like a Shift key.  

In a standard HP laptop,  the key is pressed in combination with the
function keys.  When that happens, Jaws will announce the function such as
Refresh, Windows Active List, System Tray, etc.  

Without that FN key, those keys are programmed to activate other Windows
based functions.  When that happens, Jaws may or may not react to the change
initiated.  Certainly, if a key is pressed and new information appears on
the screen, Jaws will respond as normal by attempting to speak parts of the
new data displayed.

 

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Re: [JAWS-Users] W 8.1 upgrade

[John Justice]

Hi Fred,
It looks as if some of our members didn't quite understand your questions.
I'll try to help.

DIFFERENCES BETWEEN WINDOWS 7 AND 8.1
Windows 8.1 doesn't have the same setup as Windows 7.  There is no Start
menu in the same configuration.  Instead, when you press the Windows key,
you go to a list of apps which are arranged in column format.  You can still
navigate to the Desktop by pressing WINDOWS+M or WINDOWS+D. It is still
possible to move items onto the Desktop.  However, many of the things you
already have installed in your system will appear on the list as apps.  I
have Office 2010 for example and all of the separate programs are listed.
To open one, all you have to do is navigate to it and press Enter.
The Search capability in 8.1 is great!  If you are on that
list of apps, just start typing your search term and the system will
automatically jump to the item if it is on the system.  It will also show
you documents pertaining to that item.  
Once you get into any of your applications, 8.1 doesn't behave any
differently than Windows 7 did.  It's faster, much faster than Windows 7.
Accessing the Control Panel is a bhit more difficult because 8.1 divides the
listings into groups sorted by their purpose.  You can still reach the
Programs and Features list, however.  
I believe that 8.1 was designed to be more attractive to
those who would be using it on a portable device.  There are some
differences in the operations of 8.1 but essentially, it is a good operating
system.  Many people hate it, Fred.  It took some getting used to for me but
now, after working with it for a while, I find it so good that I'm in no
hurry to upgrade to Windows 10.
You were right about your older system not working with 10 by the way.  It
requires more head room than you probably have on that older system.
I hope this helps.
  

John and linda justice
Personal e-mail: john_just...@verizon.net 

-Original Message-
From: JAWS-Users-List [mailto:jaws-users-list-boun...@jaws-users.com] On
Behalf Of Fred Adams
Sent: Sunday, September 6, 2015 7:29 AM
To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] W 8.1 upgrade

Thanks for the info.

-Original Message-
From: JAWS-Users-List [mailto:jaws-users-list-boun...@jaws-users.com] On
Behalf Of Scorpio Forever
Sent: Saturday, September 05, 2015 9:27 PM
To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] W 8.1 upgrade

I'm afraid that isn't the only way to fix the issue.

You can always download the Windows 10 setup file, and do a clean install of
the OS, which involves re-formatting your hard drive to that nothing is on
the drive when you finally install Windows 10.

I am also having this issue, so it may be that the tech guy you spoke to is
trying to pawn Windows 8.1 off on you because he knows he can't make any
money if you upgrade to Windows 10.

If you have sighted help, then do it this way, which is what I'm gearing up
to do, as I'm backing up all my files now.  If you do not have sighted help,
download the Windows unattended setup from somewhere, and use that.

I'm sorry, I don't have a link for you since I do have sighted help to
assist me in the install, but I'm sure you can Google Windows unattended
Installation and you'll be good to go.

What ever you do, don't give into your tech guy telling you have to upgrade
to Windows 8.1, that's just ridiculous on it's face.

Good luck.

Scorpio

-Original Message-
From: petras
Sent: Saturday, September 05, 2015 2:59 PM
To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] W 8.1 upgrade

You can buy a new computer that comes with windows 10.  There are many pc's
out there that are much faster than yours.

- Original Message -
From: "Fred Adams" 

Re: [JAWS-Users] iTunes latest 12.225 update, good news

[John Justice]

Rose,
John Justice here.
I have a suggestion which might work if you are using ITunes on a computer.
There is a company which has developed a set of scripts that make it easier
to navigate ITunes.  The web site is below.
It costs $10 but it's worth every penny in my opinion.

www.blindtunes.net

I use ITunes only for music and many of our other members do much more with
it.  But some of these scripts do things like creating a list of options,
navigating directly to the Search Window or to the ITunes store and so on.
It's certainly worth a try.  The good thing is that once you buy the
original software, any future updates are free and the company definitely
does try to keep up with the changes in ITunes.
I don't know if there's a version which works on a phone.
 

John and linda justice
Personal e-mail: john_just...@verizon.net 

-Original Message-
From: JAWS-Users-List [mailto:jaws-users-list-boun...@jaws-users.com] On
Behalf Of Rose Combs
Sent: Saturday, August 15, 2015 3:51 PM
To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] iTunes latest 12.225 update, good news

You may believe it is perfect, I never expected iTunes to cook my dinner, I
can do that myself, even if I wish someone would do it for me occasionally.

I'd like to see what I wish to see when I open the program instead of having
to tab through a ton of places that I will never use on the computer, I
listen to music using my iPhone and speakers, not the computer.  I do,
however, wish to get most updates on the computer, and I do wish to have
backups in iCloud and on my computer, occasionally, usually weekly at least
and I did prefer to remove applications I was no longer using the computer,
which is now more convoluted than it was.  
If it were not for the syncing capability and the backups, I'd probably
never connect the phone to a computer.  
As to the search capability, it seems broken to me and any time I can use a
real keyboard to type something in I am more satisfied, I can use the phone
but I still prefer a keyboard with good key travel and size.  
Stop treating me like a moron because I don't see things the same way you do
Please!  We should be able to disagree without putting one another down.  


Rose Combs
roseco...@q.com
A picture may be worth a thousand words but it takes up three times the
memory!


-Original Message-
From: JAWS-Users-List [mailto:jaws-users-list-boun...@jaws-users.com] On
Behalf Of jim
Sent: Friday, August 14, 2015 1:29 PM
To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] iTunes latest 12.225 update, good news

In your humble opinion.
Works great here, don't know what your problem is!
I guess since it won't make you dinner its bad.
come on, really! do we have to complain about every little thing about a
program.
I thought this was a list to ask and answer Jaws related questions about
using Jaws with windows computers.
the latest iTunes 12.225 works extremely well and is fast with Jaws.
Check your view settings, and change if necessary...


-Original Message-
From: Kevin
Sent: Friday, August 14, 2015 11:27 AM
To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] iTunes latest 12.225 update, good news

amen!

-Original Message-
From: Rose Combs
Sent: Friday, August 14, 2015 7:59 AM
To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] iTunes latest 12.225 update, good news

I want backups on the computer as well as the cloud.  The interface in my
humble opinion is clunky, much worse now that it was two months ago.
I love good changes, iTunes 12 in any version is horrible.


Rose Combs
roseco...@q.com
A picture may be worth a thousand words but it takes up three times the
memory!


-Original Message-
From: JAWS-Users-List [mailto:jaws-users-list-boun...@jaws-users.com] On
Behalf Of Trish
Sent: Thursday, August 13, 2015 3:36 PM
To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] iTunes latest 12.225 update, good news

check some of that stuff out using your device it's self. If  this process
isn't working for you, then backup via the cloud

  - Original Message -
  From: Rose Combs
  To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
  Sent: Thursday, August 13, 2015 5:11 PM
  Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] iTunes latest 12.225 update, good news


  Personally I don't see any difference in the latest iTunes update, it is
  still clunky and so far as I can tell there is no way into the app store
to
  perform a search.  I still have to press way too many tabs, and F6 for me
  rotates between about three different things, none of which I generally
want
  to see.
  I use it mostly for backups and until 12 for searches.  I still think it
  could be improved with keystrokes to get you out of music and into what
one
  really wants to see, in my case, battery status when phone is plugged in,
  ability to know if there are updates, info on last backup and ability to
  perform them, and search like we had in 11 that went directly to the app
  store

Re: [JAWS-Users] outlook 2007

[John Justice]

Aye, Mick,
Give us more to go on, Lad.
What operating system?
Which version of Jaws?



John and linda justice
Personal e-mail: john_just...@verizon.net 

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From: JAWS-Users-List [mailto:jaws-users-list-boun...@jaws-users.com] On
Behalf Of michael dubuisson
Sent: Friday, August 14, 2015 5:02 PM
To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
Subject: [JAWS-Users] outlook 2007

Hi to the jaws users,

Just asking for advice about Microsoft outlook mail   office 2007  which
when leave the computer in sleep mode as when I turn on the computer again
and try to get outlook I just get a noise and a message to close Microsoft
outlook.  The same thing happens when I even go in to the start menu and go
down to outlook the same thing occurs.

Advice would be nice, from Mick from Liverpool

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Re: [JAWS-Users] Upgrading W7 to windows 8.1

[John Justice]

Hi Fred,
John Justice, here.
I made the transition a while ago.  Here's what I found out.

8.1 takes some getting used to.  It opens on a screen which contains all of
the apps loaded into the system.  Some, but not all of these apps are
accessible. They are arranged in columns and you can navigate up and down or
across using standard Jaws commands. 
For example, the Weather app is good once you have entered your location.
The Music app is okay but it takes some getting used to.
The Mail app, in its original form, insists that you have a Microsoft
account.  I don't have one of those so I avoid that app.
There is a Desktop app but it leads you to a special desktop, not the
original one and it isn't particularly accessible.

Windows 8.1 will learn your preferences as you go along.  There is a Search
capability which is excellent.  You can either shift tab to the Search or
just start typing and the system will move quickly to the Search dialog.

Accessing the Desktop can still be achieved by using WINDOWS+M or D.
Fred, finding things like programs and features is a bit more difficult. 

Here are the good things.
Windows 8.1 is much faster than Windows 7 in loading.  However, there is a
Sign-in page which appears and you have to enter your password every time.
Windows 8.1 contains biometric sign-in options but they probably won't work
on an older system like yours.
8.1 has, for me at least, very few crashes.  It's quick and crisp when
changing programs.
The WINDOWS+E  function allows you access to all of the stored files in your
PC. 
Most of the Windows functions are still available but they are not as easily
accessible in Windows 8.1 when comparing it to Windows 7.
Finding All Programs for example is a challenge unless you type that phrase
into your Search window.
8.1 tends to divide the listings into sections pertaining to their general
function.

This is a general description.  I hope I have it all correct.
I have been using 8.1 for more than a year, now.
If you run into trouble, just yell.

**VERY IMPORTANT** 
Narrator is absolutely fantastic in 8.1.  You can turn it on by using
WINDOWS+ENTER   and in its original configuration, you turn it off the same
way.
The voice is clear and can be used quite effectively when Jaws isn't
working.
You may need sighted assistance when loading 8.1.  I have heard people say
that they did it without help.  Quite honestly, I couldn't make it happen.
But with the assistance of a neighbor, I had it up and running in a very
short time.
 

If you are in the Documents window, if you delete an item, it just
disappears without requesting confirmation.
That's a relatively simple thing but it is important to a screen reading
user.


John and linda justice
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-Original Message-
From: JAWS-Users-List [mailto:jaws-users-list-boun...@jaws-users.com] On
Behalf Of Fred Adams
Sent: Friday, August 14, 2015 5:52 PM
To: jaws-users list
Subject: [JAWS-Users] Upgrading W7 to windows 8.1

I am now using W7, outlook 2010 and latest jaws and thinking of upgrading to
W8.1.  I would like to hear from people on the list that have done this and
what you think of the difference.  Is it worth making the change or should I
keep W7?  My computer does not want to install windows updates and the
Microsoft technician told me it could be fixed by upgrading to W8.1 or W10.
I would appreciate hearing from people that have upgraded from W7 to W8.1.
I can't go for W10 as my computer is pretty old and does not have enough ram
to handle it.  

Thanks much,

FRED C. ADAMS W4HC
SEW TO THE WIND AND
REAP THE WHIRLWIND



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Re: [JAWS-Users] WINDOWS 10, IS IT WORTH UPGRADING NOW?

[John Justice]

Hi Mike,
This is the most comprehensive response I have received to date.  I
appreciate you taking the time to give me a worthwhile response.
Thank you.


John and linda justice
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-Original Message-
From: JAWS-Users-List [mailto:jaws-users-list-boun...@jaws-users.com] On
Behalf Of Michael Boyd
Sent: Thursday, August 13, 2015 3:09 AM
To: Jaws Users E-mail List
Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] WINDOWS 10, IS IT WORTH UPGRADING NOW?

John,

Here's my take on your questions, after having updated 2 of my computers to
Windows 10 in the past week. 1 of these computers was a Windows 7 machine,
and the other was an 8.1 machine.

1.We know that Jaws doesn't work with the Edge browser or with the
e-mail client at this time.

2.   There is a solution since Internet Explorer is also an option with
Windows 10 and apparently, Windows Live Mail and Outlook do work with the
new operating system.

Answer for #s 1  2: You are right in what you are saying, but Internet
Explorer does work very well with Windows 10, and so does Windows Live Mail,
which I have used for years, and I have heard many saying that Outlook is
working well too, so this should not be a hold back from updating.

3.   Is there enough of a difference between Windows 8.1 and Windows 10
to make the change worth the transition?

Answer: I say yes, there is a huge difference. First, if you have had the
opportunity to use both Windows 7 and 8.1, then you know the differences
there, and as well, you know what you liked and disliked about both of them,
this being said, imagine an operating system that takes the best from each,
and combines them into one major upgrade, then, Microsoft gives it to you
for free! What's not to like? Secondly, I have not found very much in
Windows 10 that just does not work. Everything that I have tried so far,
except for Edge and the Mail app have worked well, even Cortana workkes
well, and she always seems to give me the information that I ask for, or
perform the task that I ask her to.
.
4.   Will Jaws be able to work with Edge and the e-mail client later on?
Answer: I say yes again. I believe that Microsoft and/or Freedom Scientific,
will do what ever it takes to make both of these applications work with JAWS
in the near future. It is true, that right now, they are both in an unusable
state, but this was mentioned up front, and the decisions to update have
still been in record breaking numbers. Mostly, I have heard only good
reviews of the program to this point, and yes, there have been some who have
experienced some problems trying to install the update, but many times, I
believe it has been because Microsoft's recommendations were not followed
during the process. I have installed the thing onto
2 of my computers so far, one of which I am about to give uto someone else
to use, and I am about to install Windows 10 onto my last computer, a Lenovo
desktop which I recently purchased. So far, I have not experienced any
problems with updating either of my computers, and the whole process takes
only about 2 hours to perform. I used narrator during both of my
installations to select the Typical installation option, and shortly
after, my computers rebooted and JAWS began speaking again. Nothing was lost
in the process, just as promised.

Having used Windows 10 for a little while now, I don't think that I would
want to go back to 7 or 8.1. Both are great operating systems, but both are
lacking in some areas that I believe are made up for in Windows 10. At any
rate, this is my opinion, and I believe it counts for something, if not to
anyone but me. I say to you, Update man, you won't regret it.

Mike
mike@comcast.net
-Original Message-
From: John Justice
Sent: Wednesday, August 12, 2015 5:14 PM
To: Jaws Users E-mail List
Subject: [JAWS-Users] WINDOWS 10, IS IT WORTH UPGRADING NOW?

I feel as if I'm the only person in the room who sees the elephant.



1.We know that Jaws doesn't work with the Edge browser or with the
e-mail client at this time.

2.   There is a solution since Internet Explorer is also an option with
Windows 10 and apparently, Windows Live Mail and Outlook do work with the
new operating system.

3.   Is there enough of a difference between Windows 8.1 and Windows 10
to make the change worth the transition?

4.   Will Jaws be able to work with Edge and the e-mail client later on?

UP till now, Microsoft has been very supportive where screen readers are
concerned.  Why then, is part of Windows 10 not accessible with Jaws? Or, is
it too early to load 10?



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Re: [JAWS-Users] my experience with Windows 10

[John Justice]

I'm with you, Rose.  There are so many conflicting reports about Windows 10
right now. And, what if you don't have sighted help?


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-Original Message-
From: JAWS-Users-List [mailto:jaws-users-list-boun...@jaws-users.com] On
Behalf Of Rose Combs
Sent: Wednesday, August 12, 2015 1:09 PM
To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] my experience with Windows 10

I am not doing this as sighted help is not available, will wait, maybe
forever as what I currently need is working.  


Rose Combs
roseco...@q.com
A picture may be worth a thousand words but it takes up three times the
memory!


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From: JAWS-Users-List [mailto:jaws-users-list-boun...@jaws-users.com] On
Behalf Of Kevin
Sent: Tuesday, August 11, 2015 4:07 PM
To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
Subject: [JAWS-Users] my experience with Windows 10

i upgraded my Windows 7 pro computer to Windows 10 pro not from my windows
update, i used the media creation tool.
i think you can find the tool by searching for windows 10 free upgrade  or
something.  when running the tool i selected upgrade this PC.

the start of the upgrade can be run with jaws speech.  it'll first say
downloading windows 10.  the progress bar can not be announced by jaws
unless you press alt+tab to jaws to windows 10 upgrade.  but i'm not sure if
you should do that too many times.  when the download is complete jaws will
announce it.  then jaws will say checking your computer.  after the computer
check, jaws will announce gathering necessary updates.  after that jaws will
announce choose what to keep.  you'll have three options: keep personal
files and apps, just keep files, or keep nothing.  i chose the first one
because i think if you don't keep apps jaws might be deleted.
*note*
before starting this process make sure you disable antivirus and disconnect
printer and other devices you can keep speakers and the mouse connected
  if you don't you might get upgrade failed or jaws will announce there was
a problem.
when the upgrade begins jaws will be silent let the upgrade proceed, i let
it go over night and when i checked in the morning my computer had turned
off.
when you turn the computer back on you'll be presented with the customize
your computer, the same as when you bought a new computer.  jaws won't be
active i'm not sure if windows narrator can work.  i just got sighted help
to perform this task.
after that's complete your computer will have windows 10 when jaws starts if
activation was lost just go into update activation if you get any other jaws
errors run the jaws update

Download the JAWSR screen reading software version 16.0 update to your
downloads folder from one of the links below:

. JAWS 16.0.4350 64-bit English - May 2015 

ftp://ftp.freedomscientific.com/users/hj/private/WebFiles/JAWS/J16.0.4350ENU
-x64.exe



. JAWS 16.0.4350 32-bit English - May 2015 

ftp://ftp.freedomscientific.com/users/hj/private/WebFiles/JAWS/J16.0.4350ENU
-x86.exe

you want to save the download 

Once the update is in your  downloads folder run it you should get the
options modify, repair or remove.  choose repair!
after the repair is done all should be fine with jaws.
i'm just using windows 10 for the basic operating system and none of the new
features.  jaws works fine no problem with that.
windows 10 renamed the computer folder this PC i did notice that when after
upgrade my internet explorer did not work, so i just deleted it and
installed firefox. 
i use windows live mail for email and it works fine.
here are some tips i found:


in windows 10 press win+I to go to settings (control panels) to shut
down/restart the computer select the desktop using alt+tab or right mouse
click on a blank space on the desktop then press alt+F4 a window popsup with
the options shut down, hibernate, sleep, restart or log off  select one then
press enter

the windows 10 search field is Cortana
press win key and til Cortana is announced then type your search criteria
followed by enter to get disc defrag type it in Cortana press enter to get
windows update type it in Cortana press enter to use notepad type it in
Cortana then press enter to get programs and features type it in Cortana
then press enter
***
you can get most of what you want by typing it into Cortana when Cortana  is
announced jaws won't announce type in text, but the typing field is ready to
accept text so just type after hearing Cortana
**
(note not necessary if you already have a screen reader) press win key+enter
to toggle windows narrator on/off
**





Email is golden!!!
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[JAWS-Users] WINDOWS 10, IS IT WORTH UPGRADING NOW?

[John Justice]

I feel as if I'm the only person in the room who sees the elephant.  

 

1.We know that Jaws doesn't work with the Edge browser or with the
e-mail client at this time.

2.   There is a solution since Internet Explorer is also an option with
Windows 10 and apparently, Windows Live Mail and Outlook do work with the
new operating system.

3.   Is there enough of a difference between Windows 8.1 and Windows 10
to make the change worth the transition?

4.   Will Jaws be able to work with Edge and the e-mail client later on?

UP till now, Microsoft has been very supportive where screen readers are
concerned.  Why then, is part of Windows 10 not accessible with Jaws? Or, is
it too early to load 10?  

 

John and linda justice

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[JAWS-Users] JAWS 16 ANNOYING E-MAIL PROBLEM AND SOLUTION

[John Justice]

I'm using Outlook 2010 and Jaws 16 with Windows 8.1.

I have noticed that when you delete messages from a folder, the last message
looks as if it is still there.

First of all, it isn't.  If you do a mass Delete, it is removed with the
other messages.

This is some kind of odd Jaws behavior.  There is a way to deal with it.Once
you have deleted the messages, press the Backspace key.  That will remove
the message which doesn't seem to want to leve.

 

 

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Re: [JAWS-Users] open attached doc. in protected view

[John Justice]

Sure thing, Tom.

1. Open document in protected view.
2. Locate the File tab on your ribbon.
3. Down arrow to the Info menu.
4.  Tab slowly and listen for the Allow Edit button.  That should be two tab
positions from the start.
5. Press Enter to activate the allow Edit button.

IMPORTANT:
Once you have taken a document out of Protected View, it's always best to
press  CONTROL+S to save the document.  In most cases, once Protected  View
is removed, it stays that way.  But occasionally, Heaven only knows why, you
close the document and when it's re-opened, Protected View reappears.  If
you save the document in an editable form, that doesn't happen.

HTH  


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-Original Message-
From: JAWS-Users-List [mailto:jaws-users-list-boun...@jaws-users.com] On
Behalf Of Tom Clary
Sent: Wednesday, August 5, 2015 1:08 PM
To: jaws-users-list
Subject: [JAWS-Users] open attached doc. in protected view

 could someone remind me on how to take an opened attachment out of
protected view? office 2010

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[JAWS-Users] EXDPORTING OUTLOOK CONTACTS

[John Justice]

To make a copy of your Contacts, follow the steps below.

 

EXPORTING OUTLOOK CONTACTS LIS

 

The most commonly used form of saving contacts would be Comma
Separated Values; (CSV) Contacts can also be exported as a .pst file.  That
file is accessible only with an Outlook program.

 

1.  Go to the File menu on the ribbon

2. Locate the Options menu and press Enter

3. From the Categories list, Select the Advanced category

4. Locate Export and press Enter



5. In the Import/Export Wizard, choose Export to a file

6. Locate Next and press Enter

7. Under Create a File Of Type, choose the type of file required

8. Move to Next and press Enter



.  Outlook stores Contacts in a folder with that name.

9.   Select the Contacts folder

10.   Under Save Exported file as: choose Browse, select the destination
folder, indicate the file name

11.   Locate the Okay button and press Enter

12.   Locate Next and press Enter

13.   Locate Finish and press Enter   

 

HTH 

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Re: [JAWS-Users] Up grading Word?

[John Justice]

Almost there, Mike.
Microsoft Office Home and Business includes Outlook along with Word, Excel, 
Power Point and so on.
Microsoft Office Home and Student doesn't include Outlook.


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-Original Message-
From: JAWS-Users-List [mailto:jaws-users-list-boun...@jaws-users.com] On Behalf 
Of Vicky Vaughan
Sent: Tuesday, July 21, 2015 3:08 AM
To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] Up grading Word?

Mike, Thanks very much for this help. Do you think I can get any kind of a 
discount on the price, since I have Word 2007? I don't remember if I purchased 
a stand alone Word or if it had other applications with it. Since I wasn’t in 
the others you mentioned, I wouldn't have installed them.

Thanks again! Vicky

-Original Message-
From: Michael Boyd
Sent: Tuesday, July 21, 2015 2:25 AM
To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] Up grading Word?

You could purchase just Word
2013 as a self standing piece of software, but you would come out better in the 
end if you purchased  an Office suite. You could get the Home and Student 
version which will contain Word, Excel, Powerpoint, and One Note for a little 
over $100. Word by itself will probably cost you this much, I have not checked 
in years, but the last time I did, the different Office softwares as stand 
alone applications were running $99.99 each. Then there is the Office 365 
route. This is Office 2013 sold on a monthly subscription basis. You will 
always have the latest version updated automatically, and for $6.95 per month 
you can get the personal version which will include Word, Excel,and I believe 
Powerpoint and maybe Outlook? but I am not sure about this one, but you do get 
4 of the Office software packages with this subscription. To subscribe to this, 
go to www.office.com, and sign into your Microsoft account, and there will be 
an option to purchase Office 365 on the page somewhere. If you decide to 
purchase an Office suite, then you will find better deals on the internet or 
maybe at one of the chain type office supply stores. Try www.softwareking.com.

Mike
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-Original Message-
From: Vicky Vaughan
Sent: Monday, July 20, 2015 10:36 PM
To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
Subject: [JAWS-Users] Up grading Word?

Hi List, I have Word 2007 on my Windows 7 desktop computer, with Jaws 16.
Since I just got Leasey, which said it would work best with Word 2013, what is 
the best and most accessible way to upgrade?
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Re: [JAWS-Users] printing from the internet.

[John Justice]

David,
John here.
This happened to me a while ago.  What I had to do was to go into the Print
dialog and define the printer which would be used for that purpose.  

1. Press CONTROL+P  to activate the Print dialog
2. SHIFT+TAB  to the Options menu
3. Press Enter to open that menu
4. Locate the list of printers and highlight the one to be used
5.  Tab to Okay and press Enter
6. move to the Print button and press Enter

The printer should begin its run if all has gone well.

HTH  



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-Original Message-
From: JAWS-Users-List [mailto:jaws-users-list-boun...@jaws-users.com] On
Behalf Of david
Sent: Monday, July 20, 2015 1:22 PM
To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
Subject: [JAWS-Users] printing from the internet.

good afternoon folks.

hopefully someone can help.

 

I have a client who can't print from the internet,

however, he can print from word, documents,

when he sends the print command to the printer, while on the internet, the
printer doesn't respond.

he wants to print out a few lyrics however, so far this is not possible.

 

never experienced this before.

 

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Re: [JAWS-Users] Protected Mode

[John Justice]

Hi Deb,

1. Open the document
2. Press Alt key and arrow down to Backstage View
3. Locate Info and tab over to where Protected View is spoken
4. Press spacebar and that will activate the Edit button

HTH  

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From: JAWS-Users-List [mailto:jaws-users-list-boun...@jaws-users.com] On
Behalf Of Deb Caldbeck
Sent: Sunday, July 19, 2015 4:28 PM
To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
Subject: [JAWS-Users] Protected Mode

I've received some lectures I need to read with JAWS.  Am using Windows 7,
JAWS 15 and Word 2010.  What are the keystrokes to disable protected mode?

 

Thanks!

 

Deb Caldbeck

 

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Re: [JAWS-Users] Leasey with JAWS

[John Justice]

Carolyn,
According to the web site, the beginner version costs about $116 USD.  The
Advanced version is about $75.
I'm not sure how up to date those prices are.


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From: JAWS-Users-List [mailto:jaws-users-list-boun...@jaws-users.com] On
Behalf Of Carolyn Arnold
Sent: Thursday, July 16, 2015 8:55 PM
To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] Leasey with JAWS

Do you know how much LEASEY costs?

Remember, life is what you make it,

Carolyn

- Original Message - 
From: Flor Lynch florl...@iol.ie
To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
Sent: Thursday, July 16, 2015 7:11 PM
Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] Leasey with JAWS


 Hi,

 Leasey is an 'acronym' compiled from: Learn Enable Advance - So Easy. It's

 a program in two editions: The Basic package, and the Advanced package. 
 The Basic edition is mainly for complete computer beginners. Leasey works 
 only with JAWS. The Leasey Basic package costs more, and does more in that

 it speaks additional help dialogue prompts in a female voice . The 
 Advanced Package adds some additional functionalities to JAWS, and workd 
 from the keyboard. Thus, the Advanced Package is rather like a set of 
 scripts that do additional things - in Internet Explorer, Microsoft Word, 
 Facebook, Chicken Nugget, Winamp, Foobar2000, and some more programs.

 Before you buy, there is an evaluation version the potential user could 
 try. I tried the evaluation of the Advanced package. I decided that Leasey

 is not for me at least for now. Other users may react more favourably. I 
 happen to believe that one thing the user should be able to do, 
 particularly if s/he is an advanced user, is disable Leasey while running 
 the version of JAWS it was installed in. From my reading of the 
 documentation, one cannot do that. If one does want to disable it, one has

 to either uninstall it or use a version of JAWS that Leasey was not 
 installed into.

 Just to reiterate: There are good things about Leasey. But it may not be 
 for all users. It will suit some very well.

 -Original Message- 
 From: Tim Ford
 Sent: Thursday, July 16, 2015 10:42 PM
 To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
 Subject: [JAWS-Users] Leasey with JAWS

 Just changing the subject line to be more descriptive.

 Tim Ford


 -Original Message- 
From: East, Robin
 Sent: Thursday, July 16, 2015 11:10 AM
 To: Jaws Users E-mail List
 Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] NEW SOFTWARE

 For Leasey see reference:

 http://www.hartgen.org/

 robin east
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From: JAWS-Users-List [mailto:jaws-users-list-boun...@jaws-users.com] On
 Behalf Of John Justice
 Sent: July 16, 2015 12:06 PM
 To: Jaws Users E-mail List
 Subject: [JAWS-Users] NEW SOFTWARE

 Hi group,

 Several members have mentioned a piece of software called Leecy.  I 
 probably
 have that spelled incorrectly.

 What exactly is this software?

 What does it do?

 How much does it cost?



 Another list member asked the same question and didn't get a response.

 I'm sorry for the ignorance but I've never heard of this program before.





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Re: [JAWS-Users] Leasey with JAWS

[John Justice]

Flor,
You usually come right to the point.  Thanks for the information.


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-Original Message-
From: JAWS-Users-List [mailto:jaws-users-list-boun...@jaws-users.com] On
Behalf Of Flor Lynch
Sent: Thursday, July 16, 2015 7:11 PM
To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] Leasey with JAWS

Hi,

Leasey is an 'acronym' compiled from: Learn Enable Advance - So Easy. It's a
program in two editions: The Basic package, and the Advanced package. The
Basic edition is mainly for complete computer beginners. Leasey works only
with JAWS. The Leasey Basic package costs more, and does more in that it
speaks additional help dialogue prompts in a female voice . The Advanced
Package adds some additional functionalities to JAWS, and workd from the
keyboard. Thus, the Advanced Package is rather like a set of scripts that do
additional things - in Internet Explorer, Microsoft Word, Facebook, Chicken
Nugget, Winamp, Foobar2000, and some more programs.

Before you buy, there is an evaluation version the potential user could try.

I tried the evaluation of the Advanced package. I decided that Leasey is not
for me at least for now. Other users may react more favourably. I happen to
believe that one thing the user should be able to do, particularly if s/he
is an advanced user, is disable Leasey while running the version of JAWS it
was installed in. From my reading of the documentation, one cannot do that. 
If one does want to disable it, one has to either uninstall it or use a
version of JAWS that Leasey was not installed into.

Just to reiterate: There are good things about Leasey. But it may not be for
all users. It will suit some very well.

-Original Message-
From: Tim Ford
Sent: Thursday, July 16, 2015 10:42 PM
To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
Subject: [JAWS-Users] Leasey with JAWS

Just changing the subject line to be more descriptive.

Tim Ford


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Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] NEW SOFTWARE

For Leasey see reference:

http://www.hartgen.org/

robin east
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On
Behalf Of John Justice
Sent: July 16, 2015 12:06 PM
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Subject: [JAWS-Users] NEW SOFTWARE

Hi group,

Several members have mentioned a piece of software called Leecy.  I probably
have that spelled incorrectly.

What exactly is this software?

What does it do?

How much does it cost?



Another list member asked the same question and didn't get a response.

I'm sorry for the ignorance but I've never heard of this program before.





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Re: [JAWS-Users] NEW SOFTWARE

[John Justice]

Fascinating!  Thanks so much, Robin.


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Sent: Thursday, July 16, 2015 2:11 PM
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For Leasey see reference:

http://www.hartgen.org/

robin east
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Behalf Of John Justice
Sent: July 16, 2015 12:06 PM
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Subject: [JAWS-Users] NEW SOFTWARE

Hi group,

Several members have mentioned a piece of software called Leecy.  I probably
have that spelled incorrectly.

What exactly is this software?

What does it do?

How much does it cost?

 

Another list member asked the same question and didn't get a response.

I'm sorry for the ignorance but I've never heard of this program before.

 

 

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Re: [JAWS-Users] notification bar requires responce

[John Justice]

Hi,
This kind of file is appearing more and more.  Here's how to work with it.

1.  Once the file is shown and the system settles, activate your Jaws Cursor
2. There are two contact points below the main information. They are usually
one line down.
3. Use your Jaws Cursor to find the Save button and press the left Mouse
button, directly above the 8 key on the keypad.

Note: The system doesn't give you an option FOR SAVING the file.  Normally,
the Default LOCATION  is the Downloads folder.

HTH   

John and linda justice
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Bealf Of LeDon
Sent: Thursday, July 16, 2015 11:15 AM
To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
Subject: [JAWS-Users] notification bar requires responce

I use windows 7 with jaws sixteen and IE 10. So, I keep getting this
message, Notification bar requires response. Press alt N. What is this
trying to tell me?  When I press alt N I don't seem to get any choices
except to close. 

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Re: [JAWS-Users] notification bar requires responce

[John Justice]

Maria,
This kind of file doesn't have a Notification bar that I could find.
I'm not sure why this is so but it's happening a lot with newer downloadable
files.


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Sent: Thursday, July 16, 2015 11:35 AM
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Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] notification bar requires responce

When you press the alt n are you tabbing or using the arrow keys or using
the JAWS cursor for possible choices?


On 7/16/2015 11:15 AM, LeDon wrote:
 I use windows 7 with jaws sixteen and IE 10. So, I keep getting this
 message, Notification bar requires response. Press alt N. What is this
 trying to tell me?  When I press alt N I don't seem to get any choices
 except to close.

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[JAWS-Users] NEW SOFTWARE

[John Justice]

Hi group,

Several members have mentioned a piece of software called Leecy.  I probably
have that spelled incorrectly.

What exactly is this software?

What does it do?

How much does it cost?

 

Another list member asked the same question and didn't get a response.

I'm sorry for the ignorance but I've never heard of this program before.

 

 

John and linda justice

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Re: [JAWS-Users] Copy attachment

[John Justice]

Hi D J,
Karen gave you one way to do it.  In my opinion, this one is a bit more
navigable for someone who isn't familiar with the process.

1.  Press ALT+F  to open the File menu
2. Tab down to the Save Attachments  dialog and press enter
3. Locate the Okay button and press Enter again
Note:  You have now isolated the attachment.
4. If you press Enter on the Save button, Windows will save the attachment
to the default location, usually Documents
5. To specify a saved location, tab over to the folder tree and locate the
one you want it placed in
6.  Back space to the Save button and press Enter.

That seems more complicated but it is easier to work with.  I have found
that Karen's method sometimes works while at other times, for whatever
reason, the attachment file doesn't show.


 

John and linda justice
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Behalf Of DJReese
Sent: Monday, July 13, 2015 11:24 AM
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Subject: [JAWS-Users] Copy attachment

Hi list:

 

How do you copy an attachment from Outlook 2007?  Thanks in advance.

 

DJ Reese

 

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Re: [JAWS-Users] FS Window's 10 podcasts

[John Justice]

Duh!  I didn't even notice that.  Thanks Mike.


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Sent: Friday, July 10, 2015 3:17 PM
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Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] FS Window's 10 podcasts

Hi John,

The URL I originally posted was long  wrapped to a 2nd line.  I shortened
the URL  it's below.  I checked it  it does work.

http://tinyurl.com/pupak8b


Take care.
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Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] FS Window's 10 podcasts


Mike,
I'm not sure what I'm doing wrong but I get a message indicating that the
file can't be downloaded.


John and linda justice
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Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] FS Window's 10 podcasts

Hi Trish,

Thanks for posting this.  For those that might have trouble finding it,
click  on the following direct download link:

http://podcast.freedomscientific.com/FSCast/episodes/FSCast109-Windows_10,De
nise_Robinson.mp3

Take care.
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Subject: [JAWS-Users] FS Window's 10 podcasts


I found the most current podcast rather interesting on Window's 10 release.

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[JAWS-Users] WINDOWS 10, OBSERVATIONS AND ANALYSIS

[John Justice]

The opinions expressed in this document are my own and do not necessarily
reflect those of Freedom Scientific or the list management.

 

After reading The FS-Cast  podcast and studying other informatory resources,
I have reached the conclusion that Windows 10, at least in its original
form, is not a good choice for those who use screen readers.  Please note.
Windows 10 is still a work in progress.  Freedom Scientific will certainly
keep tabs on things as they develop and make the necessary changes.

 

THE EDGE WEB BROWSER:

Microsoft has already made massive changes in this new web browser and they
admit that it is not as good as was hoped.  The software was designed like
Firefox and Google Chrome but it doesn't function nearly as well as either
of those programs.  Unfortunately, it does not work well at all with screen
readers.  The Windows 10, scheduled for a release on July 29, is definitely
not a comfortable fit for Jaws.

 

THE NEW WINDOWS 10 CONFIGURATION:

Microsoft has heard us and is trying to bring back the older configurations
like Windows XP and Windows 7. According to an article published by
Microsoft, their attempt to design a Start menu which worked well with smart
phones and IPads, resulted in numerous complaints from PC users.  The
version of Windows 10 scheduled for release can give you a taste of what is
coming but that too is currently in a fluid state.  I asked a Microsoft
representative why they are sending out a product which is still imperfect
or incomplete.  His response was, Look, we're going to hit most of our
customers at home with this new software.  Some will buy it because it is
new.  Our free upgrade will add many more customers to our list.  What we're
trying to do is get away from 8.1.  We have had so many problems with that
version of Windows.  We almost had to do this to keep from losing too many
retail customers to the Apple software.  People like you  and other
customers who use screen readers or magnification are a tiny minority when
compared to the rest of our customer base.  That doesn't mean we won't work
to fix these issues but we won't be able to do it right away. 

I asked him how we should proceed in the meantime.  His suggestion was to
maintain our current versions of Windows or, ideally, load Windows 10 but
change the Default browser to Internet Explorer, still available in this new
release.

 

Windows 10 is currently being tested by Freedom Scientific and this latest
Jaws update has indeed addressed some of the problems.  However, many issues
still exist.  To quote Jonathan Mosen, If you enjoy experimenting with
software and trying to find ways to make it work, Windows 10 is going to
work for you.   For those of us who use our computers to do work or reach
out to other people throughout the world, the last thing we need is a system
which might or might not work in any given situation.

  

 

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Re: [JAWS-Users] FS Window's 10 podcasts

[John Justice]

David,
I have never made use of the Podcast system before.
Can you provide instructions for doing that or is there such a document on
the site, already?
Sorry for the inconvenience.  It's just something I never tried up till now.


John and linda justice
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Behalf Of David Ferrin
Sent: Wednesday, July 8, 2015 4:24 PM
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Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] FS Window's 10 podcasts

It looks like a new recording I have not heard as of yet, thank you.

David Ferrin
A complex system that does not work is invariably found to have evolved from
a simpler system that worked perfectly.


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I found the most current podcast rather interesting on Window's 10 release.

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Re: [JAWS-Users] FS Window's 10 podcasts

[John Justice]

Mike,
I'm not sure what I'm doing wrong but I get a message indicating that the
file can't be downloaded.


John and linda justice
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Behalf Of Michael B.
Sent: Wednesday, July 8, 2015 5:07 PM
To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] FS Window's 10 podcasts

Hi Trish,

Thanks for posting this.  For those that might have trouble finding it,
click  on the following direct download link:

http://podcast.freedomscientific.com/FSCast/episodes/FSCast109-Windows_10,De
nise_Robinson.mp3

Take care.
Mike
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Subject: [JAWS-Users] FS Window's 10 podcasts


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Re: [JAWS-Users] Text columns

[John Justice]

Hi Wayne,
When navigating between columns in a document, use CONTROL+ALT+RIGHT ARROW
OR CONTROL+ALT+LEFT ARROW

The columns are already a part of the document, Wayne.  You could copy the
text and then put it into a Word file.  That would require a lot of data
handling to make it a simple document.  It can be done.

1.  Copy the entire document onto the Clipboard
2. Open a new Word document
Note:  You can paste the text only into the document by using Paste Special.

3.Press CONTROL+ALT+V
A dialog will open which includes a number of paste options.  
4. Choose Text Only  and press Enter
The text will be pasted into your document but no column formatting will be
included.  You can then manipulate the text in any way that suits your
needs.

HTH  


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Subject: [JAWS-Users] Text columns

Hello- I just received an event schedule that has 2 text columns in a Word
doc.  How do I move back and forth from column to column?  Alternately, how
do I eliminate the columns?  Using Windows 7 and JAWS 14.

 

Thanks in advance,

 

Wayne

 

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Re: [JAWS-Users] Permanently Turning Off The Reading Of Headings AndParagraph Markers

[John Justice]

Excellent work, Brian.
Tom,
If you aren't sure what a setting does in the Quick Settings dialog, tab
once and a description is provided for each setting.
In order to permanently save that setting, tab again to the Okay button and
press Enter.
Jaws automatically saves  those settings until you change them.
 

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Sent: Sunday, July 5, 2015 12:07 PM
To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] Permanently Turning Off The Reading Of Headings
AndParagraph Markers

Hello Dr. Tom,

Here are a few suggestions:

If you use the JAWS key with V, type in the word line, and use down arrow
key you will have two results.  The new lines and paragraphs indication
should be set to Off.  Press spacebar repeatedly until the off setting is
reached.  Use OK until out of dialog boxes. 

Use JAWS key with V and type in the word heading.  Use the spacebar until
the Off option is active if you don't want any heading announced in the
document.  Other options are On and Heading with level.  Use OK until
out of dialog boxes.  

If you are using Word 2013, I have noticed that the hotkey of CTRL+Shift+8
doesn't turn on and off the View All option on some systems.  In Word 2013
use Alt followed by H followed by 8 to do that function.  The View All
option in Word 2013 was moved to the home tab of the ribbon instead of the
view tab.

Take care.

Brian Lee
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AndParagraph Markers

I just did control plus shift plus 8, and although it turns the paragraph
markers off, it doesn't turn the line notifications off.

The interesting thing is that I took the text from the web page I was
working with, pasted it into a notepad file, and then into a word file, and
the various heading and paragraph markers re-appeared.

They did not appear in the original notepad file.

Dr.  Tom Behler


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Sent: Saturday, July 04, 2015 9:03 PM
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Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] Permanently Turning Off The Reading Of Headings
AndParagraph Markers

Have you tried the 'quick fix' of Ctrl+Shift+8?

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Sent: Sunday, July 05, 2015 1:54 AM
To: Jaws users list
Subject: [JAWS-Users] Permanently Turning Off The Reading Of Headings
AndParagraph Markers

Hello, all.



I have encountered a very strange problem when working with the text from
e-mails that have been saved as Microsoft Word files.  It seems that
whenever I work with or create the files, paragraph and heading markers are
read within the file.  I can turn this off by going into the Jaws Quick
settings menu, but as soon as I resume the editing again, paragraph and
heading markers re-appear and are read in the newly-edited document.
Interestingly, they are also now read in any other MS Word document I open
later on.



Does anyone  know how I can turn the reading of paragraph and heading
markers off for good!



I'm using Office 2010, and Jaws version 16.0.3048 on this Windows 7 work
laptop.



Dr.  Tom Behler from Michigan



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Re: [JAWS-Users] run jaws in system tray

[John Justice]

Certainly.

1.  Go to the Jaws Window by pressing INSERT+J
2.  With Jaws in the System Tray, you are moved directly into the list of
menus
3.  Use your up and down arrows to move through the menus to the Help
section
4.  Press Enter to open the Help menu and from that point on, everything
else acts exactly the same as it did with Jaws as a separate window.

Note:  With Jaws in the System Tray, there are first letter navigation keys
which will take you directly into a menu.  The list is below.
OPTIONS MENU, O
UTILITIES MENU, U
LANGUAGE MENU, L
HELP MENU, H 

HTH 


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Subject: [JAWS-Users] run jaws in system tray

I decided to run jaws from the system tray. Now I do not know how to get to
jaws training or jaws help. Can you tell me how  to do that?

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Re: [JAWS-Users] Different JAWS versions

[John Justice]

As long as those versions are still on your system, you can open an older
version.

1. Make sure that the version you need is still in your system.
2. Next, make sure that it has an icon on your Desktop.
3. If you are adding an icon, you need to explore that version of Jaws and
locate the .exe file.
4. Make sure that the version number is included in the icon. E. G. jaws
14
5. Move to that version of Jaws and press Enter.
Note: When this version of Jaws is loaded, it will take your current version
off line and load the earlier version. 
Your current version of Jaws has probably been set up to load automatically
when you start your system.  If you shut down your system, it will reboot
with that version active.  
 
As Rick always says, HTH 

John and linda justice
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To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
Subject: [JAWS-Users] Different JAWS versions

Hello-I am currently using JAWS 14 and planning to move forward when thid
computer dies (probably soon).  I have several previous versions that I had
used, including JAWS 11, 12 and 13.  I want to use an old version of Sound
Forge 8 and I want to use an earlier version of JAWS.  Can I bring back any
of these older versions or did 14 stop them from working?

 

Wayne

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Re: [JAWS-Users] stop jaws completely

[John Justice]

Petras,
You will have to do this in two stages.  Once everything is set, you won't
have any trouble in future.

1.  If your Jaws is on the Desktop, move to it by pressing J but don't open
it
2. Press the Applications key or use SHIFT+F10
3.Press R to open the Properties menu
Note:  This menu opens on the Shortcut Page.
4. Tab to the Shortcut edit box and press CONTROL+ALT+J  or any other
shortcut key that will be unique to opening Jaws

Now, you are all set to re-open Jaws  without difficulty. 
1. To close Jaws, press INSERT+F4
Jaws will ask for confirmation  that you want to close it
2. Press enter to confirm your choice
Jaws will now stop operating and your sighted friend or helper can use it
without having Jaws speak information and slow down the process.
3. To restart Jaws, press the shortcut key, CONTROL+ALT+J 

I hope this helps.

   
  

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Subject: [JAWS-Users] stop jaws compleetly

Hi, I'm just wondering, how do I stop jaws compleetly so that a sighted
person could use the computer and read descripds without it talking?

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Re: [JAWS-Users] stop jaws completely

[John Justice]

Petras,
Mike has the right set of instructions here.  The only problem with his plan
is that Jaws will not start at all when you turn on the computer.  You won't
know if everything is up and running or not.
There is a way to do this but it's involved with setting up a different User
profile, one which doesn't include Jaws starting automatically.
Arranging User profiles is difficult but not impossible.
If you'd like to attempt that, please let me know and I'll research the
procedure for you.

What will happen though, at least in Windows 7, is that you will be
presented with a page where you have to choose which User to open.

That is a silent display in some cases, depending on how your Jaws was set
up originally.
If, for example, Jaws was set in the Basics menu to Log On At Startup,
then you would hear the User page.

Petra, wouldn't it be better just to show your friend how to turn off Jaws?
That's a simpler and more direct process.

John and linda justice
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Behalf Of Michael B.
Sent: Thursday, July 2, 2015 7:49 AM
To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] stop jaws compleetly

Hi Petras,

If you don't run Jaws from the system tray do the following:
1. Alt + Tab, to your jaws window.
2. Press the, Alt key, to open the menu bar.
3. Arrow down to, Basics,  press enter.
4. Tab to the, Automatically Start Jawsbutton,  press the spacebar to
open.
5. Tab to the, Start Jaws after Log-In for this User combobox,  arrow down
to, Never.  You can also uncheck the prior 2 checkboxes as well.
6. Tab to the, Okay button,  press the spacebar. Tab to the, Okay button, 
press enter.
Now Jaws should not start with the computer.

If you are running Jaws from the system tray do the following:
1. Press, Insert + J, to open the Jaws context menu.
2. Press the letter, O, to open Options  press the letter, B, to open
Basics or, arrow down to, Basics,  press enter to open.
3. Tab to the, Automatically Start Jawsbutton,  press the spacebar to
open.
4. Tab to the, Start Jaws after Log-In for this User combobox,  arrow down
to, Never.  You can also uncheck the prior 2 checkboxes as well.
5. Tab to the, Okay button,  press the spacebar. Tab to the, Okay button, 
press enter.

HTH
Take care.
Mike
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Sent: Wednesday, July 01, 2015 7:30 PM
Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] stop jaws compleetly


How do I make it so it doesn't start automatically?

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Date sent: Wed, 1 Jul 2015 22:27:53 -0400
Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] stop jaws compleetly

Insert J, Enter.  JAWS will ask, do you want to quit JAWS? You
hit Enter
again.  Then hit control Alt J when you want to turn JAWS back
on.

Whether you think you can or you can't, you're probably right.
Henry Ford.

Carolyn

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Subject: [JAWS-Users] stop jaws compleetly


 Hi, I'm just wondering, how do I stop jaws compleetly so that a
sighted
 person could use the computer and read descripds without it
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Re: [JAWS-Users] Antivirus

[John Justice]

Mark,
That's like asking what your favorite sandwich is.  Everyone has their
preference.
Personally, I use Avast because it requires minimal participation.
As I'm sure you have heard, many anti-virus programs that were originally
accessible, are now no longer useable with Jaws or any other screen reader.
Microsoft offers a reasonably good anti-virus but it misses quite a few
things.
And, no surprise this, support will be discontinued shortly.

Here are a couple of others you can look into.

Vipr
Hitman Pro

I'm sure that other list members will come up with additional options.


John and linda justice
Personal e-mail: john_just...@verizon.net 

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Sent: Wednesday, July 1, 2015 12:27 PM
To: Jaws Users
Subject: [JAWS-Users] Antivirus

Hi all, what is the best antivirus that works well with jaws


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Re: [JAWS-Users] Microsoft Excel 2010 And JAWS

[John Justice]

Mr. Hicks,
You have several ways to accomplish this.  Yes, using Excel 2010, it is
still possible.

1.  Assuming that the titles are in the first box at the top of each column,
line up on the first heading 
2.  Press the following key combination: INSERT+CONTROL+ALT+C 
Jaws will respond with a message indicating that the reading for column
headings is engaged.

This setting can also be saved permanently by entering the Quick Settings
dialog, INSERT+V
1. In the Edit box, type titles   
2. The first setting is one which defaults to off indicating that column and
row headings are to be read.  The other options are for all spreadsheets or
this one alone.
Note:  Before attempting these settings, make sure that your focus is on the
intersection of the first column and the first row. 

John and linda justice
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Sent: Wednesday, July 1, 2015 5:19 AM
To: JAWS-Users-List@JAWS-Users.COM
Subject: [JAWS-Users] Microsoft Excel 2010 And JAWS

Hi friends,

Is there a way to read titles in excel with a key press?  I noted the
previous conversation on how to set the heading and specify them using
insert+v but I am just wondering if there is a way to read the cell at the
top of a colum if it a heading.
This used to work with alt+1 but that seems to have stopped working a while
ago.For example, I would have a list of items and I would like to read the
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Re: [JAWS-Users] putting in headings

[John Justice]

Hi Patty.
1. Choose the information you want to use as a heading.
2. Highlight it by pressing SHIFT+END
3. Now press ALT+SHIFT+RIGHT ARROW
4. Use the left and right arrows to choose the heading level

Note:  There are several heading levels.  Each one creates the heading using
a different font.
Patty, you have to do this in Word 2010 or in another word processor.   
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Behalf Of Patti 
Sent: Tuesday, June 30, 2015 12:13 PM
To: 'jaws users'
Subject: [JAWS-Users] putting in headings

Hey Gang,

I want to know how you put in headings in MS word 2010, and then copy it to
an email, so when you read it you can just jump from heading to heading?

The  email is long, so if someone could help me that would be cool.

Patti



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Re: [JAWS-Users] using an alternate voice during say all

[John Justice]

As Mike has already noted, Say All was abandoned.  Personally, I wish it was
still available for the very reasons you pointed out.  Below, you will find
some suggestions and detailed instructions.

First of all, the premium voice you downloaded is still there.  However, it
is listed under a different synthesizer. If you downloaded the voice from
the Freedom Scientific web site, it is listed under the Vocalizer Expressive
synthesizer.  You can, as Mike mentioned, change to that voice by choosing
it from the list.

1.  While focused on the application you want to use, press INSERT+CONTROL+S

2. This command opens a list of voice profiles.  The one you want is
Vocalizer Expressive
3. After choosing the profile, tab to Okay and press Enter

Now, if you would like that voice to be called up automatically when you
switch to that application, you can do that.  Here's an example of what I
mean.  If you are using Microsoft Word and you would like Ava Premium to do
all of the reading in that environment, follow the steps below.

1.  Press INSERT+J to open the Jaws interface
2. Choose the Options menu by typing ALT+O
3.  Choose the Voice menu
4. Locate and press Enter on the Voice Adjustment option
5. Tab to the Profile list and choose Vocalizer Expressive
6. Tab past the Delete Profile and Language options
7. Tab to the Adjust Voice dialog and leave it set on All Contexts
8. Tab through the settings and adjust the voice to suit your personal needs
9. There are a couple of settings referring to Spell Rate and Upper Case
Pitch.  Avoid those
10. Tab to the Save As option and press Enter.  

Here, you can choose a different name for the profile and save the settings
you have made.  I usually create a profile named after the application I'm
using.  For example, in this scenario, I'd choose Microsoft Word.  Type that
in and press Enter.
1. Now open Microsoft Word or whatever word processor you are using  
2. Press INSERT+CONTROL+S.  Use your up and down arrows to choose your new
profile
3. Note:  There is an option to use your new profile as the Default.  Don't
do that unless you want that same voice used in every application or
environment   
4. After making your choice, tab to an option which asks you what profile is
to be used for the word processor
5. Place focus on the new profile you have created 
6. Tab to Okay and press Enter

From this point on, every time you open that application, the correct
profile will be automatically chosen.  
There is an advantage to making a profile change on the fly.  The change is
temporary.  You can choose another voice to edit the document.  If you exit
and reopen the application, the program will be loaded with the Default
profile. 

I hope that this helps. 

   

   

John and linda justice
Personal e-mail: john_just...@verizon.net 

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Behalf Of Mike O'Brien
Sent: Tuesday, June 30, 2015 1:33 PM
To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] using an alternate voice during say all

Hi

The option for using an alternative voice for say all disappeared somewhere
in JAWS 15.   However, you can manually change to an alternative voice by
pressing JAWSkey+s and choosing the voice profile you want before doing the
say all.


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Behalf Of Jason Smith
Sent: Tuesday, June 30, 2015 03:24
To: jaws-users-list
Subject: [JAWS-Users] using an alternate voice during say all

Hi list, I am using Jaws16 on a Windows7 desktop. I downloaded one of the
premium voices from the FS website. However, I am having trouble working out
how to use the voice when doing a say all command in Jaws.
I have tried the learning tutorials for Jaws, but not had any luck. I
remember getting it to work a few years ago with an earlier version of Jaws.
But don't seem to be able to work it out now. There also used to be a
command, so you could switch between using the higher quality voice and
using eloquence. Is that still possible?
Thanks Jason

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[JAWS-Users] JAWS 16 KEYBOARD ISSUE, RESOLVED

[John Justice]

Hello everyone,

I had a real problem with Jaws 16 and several keyboards I was using.  The
hotkey INSERT+V  which opens the Quick Settings dialog was not recognized.
The issue has now been resolved but I thought the information might be
useful to someone else who has this problem.

 

KEYBOARD COMMANDS NOT RECOGNIZED BY JAWS 16

1.Is this problem unique to one computer?

2.   If so, have you tried several different keyboards with the same
results?

3.   Do remote keyboards act differently than hard wired ones?

In my case, I have an older HP desktop.  When I pressed INSERT+V, nothing
would happen.  I tried changing keyboards, thinking there was an issue with
that particular wireless model.  There was no change.  Next, I purchased a
keyboard which connected directly to the system using a USB interface.
Again, that made no difference.  

Finally, I decided to institute a Jaws Repair.

.  I located my Jaws 16 disk and clicked on the Run option when
Autoload came up.

. I followed the steps, choosing Jaws from the options offered.

. Eventually, the installation wizard came to a series of buttons
including Repair.  I pressed Enter on that choice.

. Jaws went through quite a lengthy process, then asked me if I
wanted to save my personal settings.  I chose yes.

. Finally, Jaws informed me that I needed to restart my system for
the changes to take effect.  I pressed Enter on the Okay button.

. When restarting, Jaws goes through a dialog similar to the Basics
Settings menu in Options.  I carefully went through all of those settings
since Jaws will occasionally remove check marks in some areas.

As soon as Jaws started up, I checked by pressing INSERT+V.  It worked!
Apparently, something had gone wrong with the original installation or with
one of the updates which followed. 

Important Note:  Apparently, when a repair is initiated, it has no effect on
the current version of Jaws in your system.

Finally, if you decide to purchase a wireless keyboard, be sure to buy one
of the models which are rated as better quality.  Theoretically, a remote
connection should have no effect on the keyboard's functionality.  However,
it has been my experience that wireless keyboards which are relatively low
quality tend to behave oddly at times.

Several manufacturers are normally reliable:

Digilogic,

Microsoft,

HP,

 

On the other hand, USB keyboards are normally reliable, even the ones which
are inexpensive.  The only issue is that the contact points wear quickly.
The average age of n inexpensive USB keyboard is about two years.


 

 

 

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Re: [JAWS-Users] AVG vs. Avira: Which Is More JAWS Friendly?

[John Justice]

Gerald,
I have been using the free version of Avast with good success.  They
constantly update the software and Avast automatically downloads new virus
definitions when they are available.
The interface is good but requires that the Jaws cursor be used at times.
A built-in voice warns you when a threat is detected.
This wasn't one of your choices but I thought I'd let you know about it.


John and linda justice
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Behalf Of Gerald Levy
Sent: Monday, June 29, 2015 11:58 AM
To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
Subject: [JAWS-Users] AVG vs. Avira: Which Is More JAWS Friendly?


For those of you who have tried both AVG and Avira, which of these two free
real-time anti-virus programs is the most JAWS-friendly?  I'm considering
one of these programs as a replacement for MSE because support for the XP
version will supposedly be discontinued next month, meaning that the
database definitions will no longer be updated.  Note that I am more
interested in program accessibility and ease of use than in relative
superiority of anti-virus protection.  Thanks.

Gerald 

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Re: [JAWS-Users] Windows 10, Here's what Microsoft should have done instead

[John Justice]

Very interesting, Trish.
The funny thing is, I use Windows 8.1 all of the time and don't have any
trouble with it.
Thanks for the info.


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Sent: Thursday, June 11, 2015 10:27 AM
To: Jaws-users-list
Subject: Windows 10, Here's what Microsoft should have done instead




Windows 10,  Here's what Microsoft should have done instead

  a.. By David Cardinal  on June 9 2015 from the 
  b.. Extreme Tech Staff 
  c.. 'Document source Link: 
  d..   
  e..
http://www.extremetech.com/computing/207780-windows-10-heres-what-microsoft-
should-have-done-instead?mailing_id=1276983mailing=ExtremeTechmailingID=F9
8C71CE61AECF34AC8B64A964276FEA 
  f..  
.  

. Windows 10 is a well-meaning effort by Microsoft to mollify
Windows 8 haters and coax Windows 7 loyalists to upgrade - all while
stubbornly sticking to its goal of a single OS for every possible platform.
And by framing the problem that way, Microsoft has given itself a nearly
impossible task.

. To the company's credit, each new build lurches closer to being
usable, although with new bugs every time, it is difficult to evaluate how
smooth the final release version will be. Best case: It may earn the
grudging acceptance of Windows 7 users who refuse to move to Windows 8. And
part of that acceptance will come not from sudden enthusiasm for a new way
of interacting with the desktop, but from a desire to take advantage of the
clear core benefits Windows 10 provides in performance, security,
administration, and memory usage over Windows 7 and even Windows 8.

. So why is it so hard to convince users to move to a brand-new,
free, feature-packed, more efficient OS? 

.
http://www.extremetech.com/computing/205320-microsoft-windows-10-will-be-the
-last-version-of-windows

.  

. Apple does it all the time. Simply put, because Microsoft didn't
build Windows 8 or Windows 10 for Windows users. It built them to further
its own business strategy of using the power of the once-ubiquitous Windows
platform to extend its dominance into the rapidly growing mobile space. The
result is an OS whose features are now flipping and flopping with each new
build - as Microsoft tries to fix problems of its own creation.

. Imagine how good a desktop OS Windows 10 could have been

. What if instead, after realizing what a terrible mistake Windows 8
was, Microsoft had made the truly brave decision to come clean and change
its strategy? If Windows 10 had been designed from the beginning to be the
best possible desktop OS, and the thousands of developer years spent trying
to make it everything to everyone were instead spent providing services and
applications for the mobile OS platforms people actually want? If in tandem
Microsoft was willing to let go of its sub-3% market share in mobile, it
could also have spent the cash it used to buy Nokia to build out its
cross-platform services offerings instead. We could have had a really
excellent desktop OS - worth paying for - 

.
http://www.extremetech.com/computing/201601-microsoft-desperately-wants-you-
to-move-to-windows-10

.  

. and great integration with the leading mobile platforms.

. Certainly Microsoft has woken up to providing competitive versions
of its applications on Android and iOS. But imagine how much further along
it would have been if it had put real work into the effort starting years
ago. Perhaps we wouldn't have to use third-party utilities to sync our
information between Google and Outlook, for example. Or OneNote might have
supported syncing on Android during the first several years it was
available, instead of only recently. Pick any Microsoft desktop technology
you access from your iOS or Android device and you can come up with a list
of features that would make it much more useful.

. 

. It's not like there isn't anything to fix in Windows

. Anyone who thinks Microsoft didn't focus on desktop users as it
evolved Windows 8 and 10 because its desktop OS has no need for
improvement hasn't spent enough time wrestling with the inscrutable hex
error codes from Windows Update, or debugging driver version mismatches, or
finding information they're sure is somewhere on their disk. While Windows
10 isn't final, judging by the builds so far, all of those problems are
still there. Even support for high-resolution displays is still spotty.
Windows 10 adds some new Zoom options, but there is still no serious
scalable-font solution that works across the full range of possible
displays.

. As a good example of how this alternate direction would have
worked, let's look at the Control Panel. No one doubts that it is an old,
crufty system for managing a computer. A desktop-focused OS project would
have overhauled it completely while preserving its 

Re: [JAWS-Users] trying o open a word document in protective view.

[John Justice]

Good morning, Jim.
Here are the steps you can use.

1.  Press the Alt key and locate the File tab.
2. Down arrow to the Info option.
3. Press the right arrow to open that selection.
4.  Right arrow until you hear the message pertaining to what Protected View
is for.  You should be on a button which allows editing of the document.
Press that button by using the spacebar and the document should convert from
Protected View to normal display.  Different versions of Office call this
different names but the functions are essentially the same.
There may be a hotkey for that purpose  but I don't remember what it is.


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Behalf Of Jim Rawls
Sent: Monday, April 20, 2015 9:34 PM
To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
Subject: [JAWS-Users] trying o open a word document in protective view.

I just received a word document from a friend and when I try to open it, it
says protective view button, and   I can't open it. How can I fix this? I am
running jaws 16 on a W8.1 computer. Jim

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[JAWS-Users] FW: WINDOWS 10 AND SPARTAN

[John Justice]

Hello group,

It seems that my recent post has created some questions and confusion.

With that in mind, I'm sending a copy of an e-mail I sent to Bob Entofer.
He had some reasonable questions  and I'm hoping that this message will help
to clear up anyone else's concerns. 

 

From: John Justice [mailto:john.just...@virtualvisiontech.com] 
Sent: Monday, April 20, 2015 1:35 PM
To: bob.edenho...@gmail.com
Subject: WINDOWS 10 AND SPARTAN

 

Bob, I can answer some of these questions but not all of them, yet.

How did you find out that Microsoft is no longer going to use internet
explorer for windows 10? 

That information has been available for quite some time.  If you were to
Google Windows 10, you would find that information.  In addition, Freedom
Scientific and Microsoft always work in tandem and make sure that any new
software they come out with is compatible.

 

Can you tell me a little bit about Spartan? Will it be accessible with jaws?
and can you use adobe flash player with it?

Spartan is a search engine built with Google Chrome and Firefox as the
initial platform.  It has characteristics of both Google Chrome and Firefox.


Adobe Flash Player is an independent software package.  However, be assured
that Adobe is no fool.  I'm sure that their software is already compatible
or that they will come out with one of their new updates which will render
it workable with Windows 10.

 

Will it be accessible with jaws? 

I have never found a Microsoft major software package that wasn't accessible
with Jaws.  Some of the elements in Microsoft Office aren't Jaws friendly
but for the most part, there hasn't been a Microsoft operating system that
Jaws couldn't work with. 

 

Could I also use Free YouTube to MP3 converter to download and convert music
videos to mp3?

Again, you are asking about software which operates independently from the
Windows operating system.  I don't see any compatibility issues but only
time will tell. 

 

Will I need to install Spartan if I upgrade to windows 10? Or, does it come
installed with windows 10?

 

Windows 10 will use Spartan in the same way as prior versions used Internet
Explorer.  There will be no need to upgrade  since Spartan is already a
part of the Windows 10 operating system.  

 

Why is it, that internet explorer is being replaced?

In the past two years, Microsoft has reported thousands of instances in
which Internet Explorer was used as a gateway into personal and commercial
computer systems.  Although Microsoft has attempted to recognize and deal
with these situations, it was determined that the most reliable way of
handling all of these intrusions was to develop and implement a completely
new search engine.  That is what will be done with the introduction of
Windows 10 and The Spartan search facility.

 

 



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Re: [JAWS-Users] Jaws and google chrome!

[John Justice]

Ladies and gentlemen,
We ran tests on these browsers at Virtual Vision Technologies.  Regrettably, 
there are some browsers out there which are incredibly fast but they aren't 
accessible with a screen reader or magnification.  Each of these browsers has 
elements which are unique and keeping them around is an excellent suggestion.  
However, each person uses an internet browser in his or her own manner.

INTERNET EXPLORER:
Reliable and fairly consistent in all types of HTML   environment.  However, 
Internet Explorer has been targeted for hacking and interference more than any 
other software of its type.

2.  GOOGLE CHROME:
Not completely accessible.  Due to its incompatibility with screen readers, 
Google Chrome can be frustrating at times .  The spoken search capability is an 
excellent option once it has been set up with a PC.  However, that is a 
difficult process for anyone except an advanced computer user.  Once acquired, 
Google Chrome can be almost twice as fast as older versions of Explorer but it 
is affected by Internet traffic and will slow to a crawl in high volume 
conditions.  Google Chrome is still a work in progress and it too has been 
hacked and abused on many occasions.

The opinions expressed here are based on our observations.  We tested and timed 
both browsers using Windows 7 and 8.1 systems.  Local internet conditions must 
be taken into consideration.

With the introduction of Windows 10, Internet Explorer will no longer be used 
by Microsoft.  It is being replaced by a new browser called Spartan.  Spartan 
uses technology originally made available through Google Chrome and other 
lesser known search engines.  We anticipate that Spartan will be an entirely 
new approach to surfing the Internet.  As always, early versions of Windows 10 
may require additional upgrades to deal with bugs and development issues.  
Thank you for taking the time to read this.

John Justice
Access Technology Instructor
Virtual Vision Technologies 

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-Original Message-
From: JAWS-Users-List [mailto:jaws-users-list-boun...@jaws-users.com] On Behalf 
Of David Ferrin
Sent: Sunday, April 19, 2015 9:12 AM
To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] Jaws and google chrome!

All right people, turn down the burners.

David Ferrin
A complex system that does not work is invariably found to have evolved from a 
simpler system that worked perfectly.


-Original Message-
From: JAWS-Users-List [mailto:jaws-users-list-boun...@jaws-users.com] On Behalf 
Of gs
Sent: Saturday, April 18, 2015 8:17 PM
To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] Jaws and google chrome!

I'm not going to get into some sort of flame war with anyone here. Yes, fastest 
browser with HTML 5 sites definitely. JAWS and combo boxes, a little 
problematic.

What's your point? Post privately if you just want to go back and forth about 
nothing.

The main point I wanted to make here is that it is wise to keep all the 
browsers around for those instances when a particular site works better on one 
than another, JAWS notwithstanding.



On Apr 18, 2015, at 7:58 PM, Rick Justice ricjust...@jaws-users.com wrote:

Fastest browser, with sluggish combo boxes?
Interesting!

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From: gs geoffsli...@gmail.com
To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
Sent: Saturday, April 18, 2015 4:45 PM
Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] Jaws and google chrome!


Hopefully someone can provide a little better response than I got rid of 
the thing. I would encourage everyone to keep IE, Firefox and Chrome around 
because there are invariably things you'll find that will work better with 
Chrome than anything else. If nothing else, Chrome is the fastest browser of 
the bunch.

Not sure why there is an unusual amount of Chrome hate on this list.

I admit that combo boxes are a little quirky and there may be occasions 
where depending on the way they're done, there may be some problems. 
However, if you enable Forms Mode and then press Alt + Down Arrow, for many 
combo boxes, you'll be able to cause them to work although they may be a 
little sluggish and quirky compared to how they work, for example, in IE.

Combo boxes are quite iffy with JAWS these days no matter what browser you 
use.

On Apr 18, 2015, at 10:10 AM, Carolyn Arnold 4carol...@windstream.net 
wrote:

I got rid of Chrome too, and even my husband, who does not have JAWS got rid 
of the thing.

GIFT (God is forever true),

Carolyn

- Original Message - From: Bob Edenhofer bob.edenho...@gmail.com
To: JAWS-Users-List@jaws-users.com
Sent: Saturday, April 18, 2015 7:41 AM
Subject: [JAWS-Users] Jaws and google chrome!


 Hi Tom, as far as I know, google chrome isn’t accessible with jaws, I’ve 
 tried it for the hell of it before, and I’ve gotten rid of it. You’d be 
 better off with mozilla firefox or internet explorer. I hope this helps!
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Re: [JAWS-Users] VERIZON, SECURITY UPDATE, A REAL HEADACHE

[John Justice]

FYI, all you had to do was say something like male lion walking  as long
as you remembered what it was.  
I finally got through that mess but I had to get help from Technical
Support.
I love the part where you have to choose a secret question.  That part of it
wasn't bad.  But the thing could have been better designed for the visually
impaired.  One good thing though.  It probably won't be easy for a hacker to
get through that jungle without being eaten by your tiger.
Take care Rose.  Cheer up.  Here's a quote from my great grandmother.
If I wake up in the morning and there's still a roof over my head, that's a
good day.
If I can still breathe and smell the coffee, that's a good day.
If I can get up and go to the bathroom and not have to use a bedpan, that's
a good day.
If I'm still alive, that's a good day. 

JOHN AND LINDA JUSTICE
PERSONAL E-MAIL: john_just...@verizon.net

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Behalf Of Rose Combs
Sent: Friday, February 20, 2015 1:46 PM
To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] VERIZON, SECURITY UPDATE, A REAL HEADACHE

Oh, yes, Verizon, I think my picture was a tiger and describing it was a
hoot, eventually got my cousin to do that because I had no real clue.  I am
not going to go pet one and decides that would not help with the
description.  LOL.  We laughed about it but just one more thing I seem to be
unable to do on top of a lot of things in my recent very recent past.  

Makes me feel incompetent despite years and years of computer, online and
job experience.  

Just not having any fun lately.  

-Original Message-
From: JAWS-Users-List [mailto:jaws-users-list-boun...@jaws-users.com] On
Behalf Of Maria Campbell
Sent: Thursday, February 19, 2015 5:01 PM
To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] VERIZON, SECURITY UPDATE, A REAL HEADACHE

Verizon really should hear from its blind customers about their hard to
manage site altogether.
Trying to register a cell phone is no picnic, either.


Sunny Day
Maria Campbell
luc...@ct.metrocast.net

Somewhere, something incredible is waiting to be known.
Blaise Pascal

On 2/19/2015 5:11 PM, John Justice wrote:
 Windows 7, Jaws 16, latest build.

   

 If you are a Verizon customer and you want to access your e-mail from 
 a remote location through the Internet, Verizon has seriously hardened 
 their security screen.  It is accessible but will take a lot of 
 patience and manipulation.

   

 1.Password has to meet certain qualifications.  That isn't new.

 2.   2.  An image has to be chosen from a list  and then, you have to
 type in a phrase describing that image in your own words.

 Once you have gone through those steps, without issues, you can then 
 sign into the sight through VERIZON.COM  or VERIZON.NET. But when you 
 sign in, Verizon twists your tail even more.  There's a field containing
CAPTIA.
 However, there is an audio link and the recordings aren't too bad.

   

 Be very careful with this.  If you try too many times, you end up 
 having your account locked out.  If that happens, you can check a box 
 which will give you an automated phone call.  The system will provide 
 you with an access code.  All you have to do is type that code in the
space provided.

   

 To put it bluntly, it's a pain in the rear!

   

 It's probably a harbinger of things to come.

   

 JOHN AND LINDA JUSTICE

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[JAWS-Users] VERIZON, SECURITY UPDATE, A REAL HEADACHE

[John Justice]

Windows 7, Jaws 16, latest build.

 

If you are a Verizon customer and you want to access your e-mail from a
remote location through the Internet, Verizon has seriously hardened their
security screen.  It is accessible but will take a lot of patience and
manipulation.

 

1.Password has to meet certain qualifications.  That isn't new.

2.   2.  An image has to be chosen from a list  and then, you have to
type in a phrase describing that image in your own words.

Once you have gone through those steps, without issues, you can then sign
into the sight through VERIZON.COM  or VERIZON.NET. But when you sign in,
Verizon twists your tail even more.  There's a field containing CAPTIA.
However, there is an audio link and the recordings aren't too bad.

 

Be very careful with this.  If you try too many times, you end up having
your account locked out.  If that happens, you can check a box which will
give you an automated phone call.  The system will provide you with an
access code.  All you have to do is type that code in the space provided.  

 

To put it bluntly, it's a pain in the rear!

 

It's probably a harbinger of things to come.

 

JOHN AND LINDA JUSTICE

WITH GUIDE DOGS JAKE AND CALYPSO

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john_just...@verizon.net

 



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Re: [JAWS-Users] message from web page

[John Justice]

Holger,
Extremely urgent!
1.  Do not call that number.  Your system has been contaminated by malware.
If you call the number, someone will offer to fix your system for hundreds
of dollars USD.
2.  You have two choices. 
A:  Create a system Restore point and take it back at least a month.
B:  Contact Microsoft Disability Support and they will assist in removing
the malware.

This kind of problem is unfortunately  quite common these days.
NOTE:  If this isn't your problem, please relay it to the person with the
Kidnap malware issue.

According to Microsoft Disability Support, the only effective way to remove
something like that is with a really strong anti-virus program like Hitman
Pro or Avast.

I'd like to see someone develop a piece of software that would find these
people and then destroy their computers.


JOHN AND LINDA JUSTICE
WITH GUIDE DOGS JAKE AND CALYPSO
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From: JAWS-Users-List [mailto:jaws-users-list-boun...@jaws-users.com] On
Behalf Of Holger Fiallo
Sent: Tuesday, February 17, 2015 4:52 PM
To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] message from web page

it is accessible? Do I download it and save it and run it? 

-Original Message-
From: Alan Robbins
Sent: Tuesday, February 17, 2015 3:41 PM
To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] message from web page 

Look at the list notes from today from Mike Boyd. Download and run hitman
pro.

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[mailto:jaws-users-list-boun...@jaws-users.com] On Behalf Of Holger Fiallo
Sent: Tuesday, February 17, 2015 4:35 PM
To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
Subject: [JAWS-Users] message from web page

It came back. message stating I need to call 888-283-5495. I need a good
antivirus program that will delete it or fix my IE. I went to control shift
scape and deleted iexplore.exe user 00 and it closed my PC.

Holger Fiallo
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Re: [JAWS-Users] iTunes 12.1 fix

[John Justice]

Excellent and clear instructions.  My compliments, Russ.


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-Original Message-
From: JAWS-Users-List [mailto:jaws-users-list-boun...@jaws-users.com] On
Behalf Of Russ Breitenstein
Sent: Tuesday, February 10, 2015 8:53 PM
To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] iTunes 12.1 fix

Got it going. Thanks so much for the instructions.

Take care,
Russ

-Original Message-
From: Robert Doc Wright
Sent: Monday, February 09, 2015 9:03 PM
To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
Subject: [JAWS-Users] iTunes 12.1 fix

Here is a fix for the 64Bit iTunes that works.  You will have to uninstall
iTunes first. There is an order in which iTunes should be properly
uninstalled.  I will place that information below and place the link for the
fix afterwards.


Uninstalling  iTunes

Steps

1.Remove iTunes and related components from the Control Panel.

Use the Control Panel to uninstall iTunes and related software components in
the following order. Then restart your computer.
1.iTunes
2.Apple Software Update
3.Apple Mobile Device Support
4.Bonjour
5.Apple Application Support (iTunes 9 or later)

Don't uninstall these components in a different order, or only uninstall
some of them. Doing so might have unintended affects.

iTunes 64 bit fix
http://support.apple.com/kb/DL1784


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Re: [JAWS-Users] OCR on PDF: Open instead directly through Openbook

[John Justice]

Tim,
I think the lady was pointing out earlier that not everyone has Open Book
due to its relatively high purchase cost.

For the record, I'm with you regarding the Freedom Import Printer.  It
should work as advertised but quite often, there are indeed problems with
it.


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-Original Message-
From: JAWS-Users-List [mailto:jaws-users-list-boun...@jaws-users.com] On
Behalf Of Tim Ford
Sent: Tuesday, February 10, 2015 9:03 PM
To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
Subject: [JAWS-Users] OCR on PDF: Open instead directly through Openbook

Hi All,

Please note I have edited the subject line to more clearly identify my
diversion below from the original thread.

I have experienced so many problems over the years using the Freedom Import
Printer, that I simply quit using it.  As explained below, there is a
work-around that is actually much more direct and stable.

Instead of going through Adobe, open the PDF directly through Openbook. 
You use the standard Openbook folder/file open command, control and o, or go
through the file menu.  Although it might not be necessary, I would cursor
down in the file type box and pick PDF.  Otherwise, the dialog boxes work
the same as for any Windows program.

The above eliminates all the hassle and potential crashes when using Adobe
and the Freedom Import printer.  It also is much more direct.

If you want to make it even easier to use Openbook in this way, add Openbook
to the open with dialog box you can get to if you are in Windows Explorer
with your cursor on the PDF file.

Tim Ford


-Original Message-
From: Mike B.
Sent: Tuesday, February 10, 2015 4:26 PM
To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] OCR on PDF

Hi Trish,

To read the file using Openbook try the following:
1. Open the PDF file with Adobe Reader  press, Control + P, to open the
print dialogue.
2. With the print dialogue open, arrow down to, Freedom Import Printer,
in the printer selection menu  press enter.
3. Give Openbook a little time to open  start processing the file 
hopefully you'll be able to read the document.
HTH
Take care.
Mike
This email was sent from my, iBarstool.

- Original Message -
From: Trish
To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
Sent: Tuesday, February 10, 2015 3:49 PM
Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] OCR on PDF


yes sir, version 9 in fact.

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From: Kevin Lee klee...@gmail.com
To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
Sent: Tuesday, February 10, 2015 5:17 PM
Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] OCR on PDF


do you have openbook?

-Original Message- 
From: Trish
Sent: Tuesday, February 10, 2015 3:10 PM
To: Jaws Users List
Subject: [JAWS-Users] OCR on PDF

I need help. Well, I need Jaws to read this PDF, I ran the OCR and it's
suppose to be a doc file, but even though I was hopeful hearing Adobe
processing the pages, Jaws didn't read it.
Now what?

Plan 2..send it to my son to convert hopefully,lol



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Re: [JAWS-Users] OCR on PDF

[John Justice]

Trish,
If you have Open Book or Kurzweil Reader on your system, you can try
importing it that way.  Before Jaws 15 and 16, that was how I managed to
read those imaged .pdf files.


JOHN AND LINDA JUSTICE
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Behalf Of Trish
Sent: Tuesday, February 10, 2015 6:11 PM
To: Jaws Users List
Subject: [JAWS-Users] OCR on PDF

I need help. Well, I need Jaws to read this PDF, I ran the OCR and it's
suppose to be a doc file, but even though I was hopeful hearing Adobe
processing the pages, Jaws didn't read it.
Now what?

Plan 2..send it to my son to convert hopefully,lol



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Re: [JAWS-Users] problem with excel

[John Justice]

Jaws can be set to read the  cells in many ways.  There are specific settings 
in the Quick Settings section.

1.  While focused on Excel, press INSERT+V  to open the Quick Settings dialog.
2. Arrow down to the beginning of the texdt or use the Search window and type 
something like read cell contents.  
3.  The easiest way is to press the letter T twice.  That takes you to a 
setting indicating that Jaws should read the cell contents.
4.  Now use first letter navigation C, pressed twice. 
5.  You will be in the settings for cells.  Here's the great part of Quick 
Settings.  If you aren't sure, just highlight a setting, then tab over and 
there will be a text box explaining what each setting does.  The text 
explanations change, depending on which parameter you have highlighted 
currently.  Before doing anything, look through these.
6.  You can try a change, make a note of it and then if you don't like the 
results, open up Quick Settings again and try another setting.  

Excel settings for Jaws are quite extensive.  I suggest you figure out what you 
want to do and then try to find the setting that makes Jaws do that.  Reading 
cell contents is one of those settings.  You can also have Jaws read the column 
or row settings in Excel but that's for another message.
  

JOHN AND LINDA JUSTICE
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-Original Message-
From: JAWS-Users-List [mailto:jaws-users-list-boun...@jaws-users.com] On Behalf 
Of Mike Boyd
Sent: Tuesday, February 10, 2015 1:41 AM
To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] problem with excel


Could you please elaborate a little on Excel does not read the cells properly 
if at all? If JAWS does read something, what does it say? It could be that the 
excel window needs to be maximized is all.

Mike
blindb...@comcast.net



-Original Message-
From: Flor Lynch
Sent: Monday, February 09, 2015 6:13 PM
To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] problem with excel

Which version of Excel do you have installed?

-Original Message-
From: Eyþór Kamban Þrastarson
Sent: Monday, February 09, 2015 11:53 PM
To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
Subject: [JAWS-Users] problem with excel

Hi

I have a lenovo Yoga computer with office and Jaws 16installed. Excel does not 
read the cells correctly if at all. Anyone else have this problem and knows 
what‘s wrong?

Best

Eythor

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Re: [JAWS-Users] iTunes 12.1 fix

[John Justice]

Absolutely not.  The libraries are separate files and are not impacted by
the removal of ITunes and its components.
According to Apple Support, it is not necessary to remove the older version
or the defective one.  All you need to do is activate the special .exe file.

I followed their instructions and the results were fantastic!
Please note.  The fix also works for the ITunes store.


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From: JAWS-Users-List [mailto:jaws-users-list-boun...@jaws-users.com] On
Behalf Of Steve
Sent: Tuesday, February 10, 2015 1:16 PM
To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] iTunes 12.1 fix

No
- Original Message - 
From: Vicky Vaughan
To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
Sent: Monday, February 09, 2015 9:11 PM
Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] iTunes 12.1 fix


Will the uninstalling of iTunes either lose the music or lose the
identification or location of the music?

Thank you!

Vicky

-Original Message- 
From: Robert Doc Wright
Sent: Monday, February 09, 2015 9:03 PM
To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
Subject: [JAWS-Users] iTunes 12.1 fix

Here is a fix for the 64Bit iTunes that works.  You will have to uninstall
iTunes first. There is an order in which iTunes should be properly
uninstalled.  I will place that information below and place the link for the
fix afterwards.


Uninstalling  iTunes

Steps

1.Remove iTunes and related components from the Control Panel.

Use the Control Panel to uninstall iTunes and related software components in
the following order. Then restart your computer.
1.iTunes
2.Apple Software Update
3.Apple Mobile Device Support
4.Bonjour
5.Apple Application Support (iTunes 9 or later)

Don't uninstall these components in a different order, or only uninstall
some of them. Doing so might have unintended affects.

iTunes 64 bit fix
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Re: [JAWS-Users] Deleting a folder created within Outlook 2010 In Box

[John Justice]

Hi Tom,
You can also move the folder out of the In box and onto the main tree.  That
is one of the options available if you go to the Ribbon and then to the
Folder tab.
Yes, you can delete folders from within the In box but I don't think you can
delete the In box itself.


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From: JAWS-Users-List [mailto:jaws-users-list-boun...@jaws-users.com] On
Behalf Of Tom Clary
Sent: Monday, January 26, 2015 3:20 PM
To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] Deleting a folder created within Outlook 2010 In
Box

 if they're created folders, i don't believe they can be deleted. hope i'm
wrong, because i have several i need to delete

On 1/26/15, david davidwhitehead1...@cogeco.ca wrote:
 ctrl+y=go to folder,
 now either letter navigate or arrow to the folder you wish to remove 
 and then press the delete key.
 or?
 yu can use the tab key to get to the folder view,

 navigate to the folder you wish to remove, press the applications key, 
 up arrow enter on delete.


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 On Behalf Of Liuda Balcius
 Sent: Monday, January 26, 2015 3:08 PM
 To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
 Subject: [JAWS-Users] Deleting a folder created within Outlook 2010 In 
 Box

 I use Outlook 2010, Win. 7 and JAWS 16.

 I have two folders that are no longer necessary located within my In Box.

 How can I delete them, since the D Key does not work?

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[JAWS-Users] JAWS 16, STRANGE E-MAIL ISSUE

[John Justice]

I'm using Jaws 16, Windows 7 and Outlook 2010.

I have incoming messages sorted into folders based on the subject.  When I
delete messages from one of those folders, Jaws 16 indicates that there is
one message remaining.  But if I exit the folder and then return, the
message is gone.  

 

Is there a setting I need to change which will correct that problem.

This happens all of the time  on all of my e-mail folders.

Any help or suggestions would be welcome.

 

 

JOHN AND LINDA JUSTICE
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Re: [JAWS-Users] JAWS 16 DOCUMENT OCR, REPORT AND OBSERVATION

[John Justice]

I believe that Mailman strips all attachments from messages as a matter of
security.
My apologies.


JOHN AND LINDA JUSTICE
WITH GUIDE DOGS JAKE AND CALYPSO
PERSONAL E-MAIL:  john_just...@verizon.net

-Original Message-
From: JAWS-Users-List [mailto:jaws-users-list-boun...@jaws-users.com] On
Behalf Of Pinky
Sent: Wednesday, November 26, 2014 1:13 PM
To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] JAWS 16 DOCUMENT OCR, REPORT AND OBSERVATION

Thanks John or Linda for sending this.  One thing tho there was no
attachment of the pdf.

-Original Message-
From: JAWS-Users-List [mailto:jaws-users-list-boun...@jaws-users.com] On
Behalf Of John Justice
Sent: Wednesday, November 26, 2014 10:52 AM
To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
Subject: [JAWS-Users] JAWS 16 DOCUMENT OCR, REPORT AND OBSERVATION

I have worked with the new Jaws 16 Document OCR  and found it to be quite
effective.  There are some observations I can make in hopes that this might
help some of the list members whom are having trouble with that feature.

I have attached a typical .pdf document.  I hope that Mailman won't strip it
out. 

 

1.The new Document OCR works on the type of .pdf document which
cannot be read normally by Jaws.  This document is what is sometimes
referred to as an imaged .pdf document. Rather than an actual copy of the
document in its original form, a photocopy is made which is then
transmitted.  For the sighted user, this does not present a problem since
the document is visible when opened. That kind of document can be exported
to an exterior program such as Open Book which then scans the document and
is able to read it.  Microsoft Word has a feature which can also convert the
imaged material but it can be difficult to use.

2.   When a document like this is opened, the only thing a Jaws user
will hear is Alert! Empty document   At that point, the new Document OCR
can be very helpful.

1.Press Insert+Spacebar.  Wait for the spoken confirmation, then
press the letter D. A spoken confirmation will be heard: Document OCR
Started.  Please note.  This process is very slow.  Once it has started,
there is no way to tell whether the process is working unless the user tries
to Alt Tab away from that screen.  In that event, a message is spoken:
Document OCR In Progress. Gathering elements.
If anyone would like a copy of it sent to them personally, I will be happy
to do that.
I believe what might be causing the concern expressed by some of the list
members is the silence once the command is engaged and the length of time it
takes to process a document.
This is a five page document describing the condition of a house and
detailing issues that the new owner might encounter. The results aren't
perfect by any means but they are much better than anything OCR has been
able to accomplish up till now.  For the record, processing a five page
imaged .pdf takes about two to three minutes.  Once the operation is
completed, Jaws begins reading immediately.  
MY most sincere compliments to the designers at Freedom Scientific for their
efforts in perfecting this valuable tool.

  

JOHN AND LINDA JUSTICE

WITH GUIDE DOGS JAKE AND CALYPSO

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Re: [JAWS-Users] JAWS 16 DOCUMENT OCR, REPORT AND OBSERVATION

[John Justice]

I have never attempted to send an attachment to any e-mail list.
To be quite honest, I wasn't aware of the restriction since it never applied
to me before.
Thanks for the reminder.


JOHN AND LINDA JUSTICE
WITH GUIDE DOGS JAKE AND CALYPSO
PERSONAL E-MAIL:  john_just...@verizon.net


-Original Message-
From: JAWS-Users-List [mailto:jaws-users-list-boun...@jaws-users.com] On
Behalf Of David Ferrin
Sent: Wednesday, November 26, 2014 1:07 PM
To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] JAWS 16 DOCUMENT OCR, REPORT AND OBSERVATION

John my friend, I'm surprised at you. I have never allowed attachments on
any list I manage. I have included on the server for quite a while now the
PDF file that Jonathon demonstrated on the pod cast for folks to try out. 

Now as long as we're on the subject I must give praise and this is something
I do not often do since quite a lot of the updates in JAWS for the past few
years do not normally apply to my needs, granted I'm probably in the
minority on that point. 

All this year I have tried to get my bank to create accessible PDF files
without any luck. Just a few minutes ago I downloaded my credit card
statement and ran the OCR feature new in 16. I must give my Steelers hat a
tip to FS because finally I can read the thing without running the risk of
breaking my desk in the process. 

For my needs 16 has hit it out of the park. 
David Ferrin
A complex system that does not work is invariably found to have evolved from
a simpler system that worked perfectly.

-Original Message-
From: JAWS-Users-List [mailto:jaws-users-list-boun...@jaws-users.com] On
Behalf Of John Justice
Sent: Wednesday, November 26, 2014 11:52 AM
To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
Subject: [JAWS-Users] JAWS 16 DOCUMENT OCR, REPORT AND OBSERVATION

I have worked with the new Jaws 16 Document OCR  and found it to be quite
effective.  There are some observations I can make in hopes that this might
help some of the list members whom are having trouble with that feature.

I have attached a typical .pdf document.  I hope that Mailman won't strip it
out. 

 

1.The new Document OCR works on the type of .pdf document which
cannot be read normally by Jaws.  This document is what is sometimes
referred to as an imaged .pdf document. Rather than an actual copy of the
document in its original form, a photocopy is made which is then
transmitted.  For the sighted user, this does not present a problem since
the document is visible when opened. That kind of document can be exported
to an exterior program such as Open Book which then scans the document and
is able to read it.  Microsoft Word has a feature which can also convert the
imaged material but it can be difficult to use.

2.   When a document like this is opened, the only thing a Jaws user
will hear is Alert! Empty document   At that point, the new Document OCR
can be very helpful.

1.Press Insert+Spacebar.  Wait for the spoken confirmation, then
press the letter D. A spoken confirmation will be heard: Document OCR
Started.  Please note.  This process is very slow.  Once it has started,
there is no way to tell whether the process is working unless the user tries
to Alt Tab away from that screen.  In that event, a message is spoken:
Document OCR In Progress. Gathering elements.
If anyone would like a copy of it sent to them personally, I will be happy
to do that.
I believe what might be causing the concern expressed by some of the list
members is the silence once the command is engaged and the length of time it
takes to process a document.
This is a five page document describing the condition of a house and
detailing issues that the new owner might encounter. The results aren't
perfect by any means but they are much better than anything OCR has been
able to accomplish up till now.  For the record, processing a five page
imaged .pdf takes about two to three minutes.  Once the operation is
completed, Jaws begins reading immediately.  
MY most sincere compliments to the designers at Freedom Scientific for their
efforts in perfecting this valuable tool.

  

JOHN AND LINDA JUSTICE

WITH GUIDE DOGS JAKE AND CALYPSO

PERSONAL E-MAIL:   mailto:john_just...@verizon.net
john_just...@verizon.net

 

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Re: [JAWS-Users] Need phone number of the free help from Microsoft

[John Justice]

Kathy,
The number for the Microsoft Disability Support Desk is below.
800 936 5900 


JOHN AND LINDA JUSTICE
WITH GUIDE DOGS JAKE AND CALYPSO
PERSONAL E-MAIL:  john_just...@verizon.net


-Original Message-
From: JAWS-Users-List [mailto:jaws-users-list-boun...@jaws-users.com] On
Behalf Of Kathy D'Avia
Sent: Wednesday, November 26, 2014 9:43 AM
To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] Need phone number of the free help from Microsoft

Miriam and Mike,

Thank you for the phone number.  I will move it out of the inbox and put it
in the correct folder.

Miriam,

I lost my vision when I was fifty seven years old.  They tried to teach me
Braille but my finger tips couldn't feel it.  I don't think I am very techy.

My memory is getting old as I am.

Thanks both of you for your help.

Take care,
Kathy
-Original Message-
From: Miriam Vieni
Sent: Tuesday, November 25, 2014 8:58 PM
To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] Need phone number of the free help from Microsoft

1-800-936-5900, 9 a.m. to 5 p.m. pacific time

Now if you were old and non techy like me, you'd have it in braille on an
index card in a file box like I do and it wouldn't be deleted by accident.
(smile)

Miriam

-Original Message-
From: JAWS-Users-List [mailto:jaws-users-list-boun...@jaws-users.com] On
Behalf Of Kathy D'Avia
Sent: Tuesday, November 25, 2014 9:23 PM
To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
Subject: [JAWS-Users] Need phone number of the free help from Microsoft

Hello,

I had the information in an email that someone sent to the list.  I have
looked in every folder and can't find it.  I have a finger that keeps
deleting emails when I fall asleep reading them.  I must not have moved it
from my deleted folder.

Thank you for your help.
Kathy
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[JAWS-Users] JAWS 16 DOCUMENT OCR, REPORT AND OBSERVATION

[John Justice]

I have worked with the new Jaws 16 Document OCR  and found it to be quite
effective.  There are some observations I can make in hopes that this might
help some of the list members whom are having trouble with that feature.

I have attached a typical .pdf document.  I hope that Mailman won't strip it
out. 

 

1.The new Document OCR works on the type of .pdf document which
cannot be read normally by Jaws.  This document is what is sometimes
referred to as an imaged .pdf document. Rather than an actual copy of the
document in its original form, a photocopy is made which is then
transmitted.  For the sighted user, this does not present a problem since
the document is visible when opened. That kind of document can be exported
to an exterior program such as Open Book which then scans the document and
is able to read it.  Microsoft Word has a feature which can also convert the
imaged material but it can be difficult to use.

2.   When a document like this is opened, the only thing a Jaws user
will hear is Alert! Empty document   At that point, the new Document OCR
can be very helpful.

1.Press Insert+Spacebar.  Wait for the spoken confirmation, then
press the letter D. A spoken confirmation will be heard: Document OCR
Started.  Please note.  This process is very slow.  Once it has started,
there is no way to tell whether the process is working unless the user tries
to Alt Tab away from that screen.  In that event, a message is spoken:
Document OCR In Progress. Gathering elements.
If anyone would like a copy of it sent to them personally, I will be happy
to do that.
I believe what might be causing the concern expressed by some of the list
members is the silence once the command is engaged and the length of time it
takes to process a document.
This is a five page document describing the condition of a house and
detailing issues that the new owner might encounter. The results aren't
perfect by any means but they are much better than anything OCR has been
able to accomplish up till now.  For the record, processing a five page
imaged .pdf takes about two to three minutes.  Once the operation is
completed, Jaws begins reading immediately.  
MY most sincere compliments to the designers at Freedom Scientific for their
efforts in perfecting this valuable tool.

  

JOHN AND LINDA JUSTICE

WITH GUIDE DOGS JAKE AND CALYPSO

PERSONAL E-MAIL:   mailto:john_just...@verizon.net
john_just...@verizon.net

 

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Re: [JAWS-Users] Jaws Default JDF Dictionary Manager

[John Justice]

Mike,
The way I made it work was to separate the letters.  That would be in the
correction field.
In that way, it would read N V D A

In my system however, if you lock your Caps lock key down and type it in, it
reads just fine.
I'll bet that the actual logo isn't in caps.
 

JOHN AND LINDA JUSTICE
PERSONAL E-MAIL: john_just...@verizon.net


-Original Message-
From: JAWS-Users-List [mailto:jaws-users-list-boun...@jaws-users.com] On
Behalf Of Mike B.
Sent: Thursday, November 13, 2014 7:56 AM
To: Jaws-Users List
Subject: [JAWS-Users] Jaws Default JDF Dictionary Manager

Hi All,

Running J15, 16,  Win7 Pro.  When I put, nvda, into the Jaws default JDF
dictionary Manager  want it to read as, NVDA, Jaws doesn't want to read it
as capitalized letters.  I've tried it with the case sensitive option
checked  unchecked but, no go, it stills speaks it as lower case letters no
matter what application I'm in.  Does anyone have any ideas on how I can
get, nvda, to be read as, NVDA?   yes, I am saving the changes before
closing the dictionary manager.  Also,nvda, won't read as capitalized
letters even if I try to put it in an application dictionary manager like
the Notepad dictionary manager either.  All help will be greatly
appreciated.  Thanks much.
Take care.
Mike
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Re: [JAWS-Users] JAWS 16

[John Justice]

I just asked the Sales Department at Freedom the same question this
afternoon.
They are only now beginning to ship the disks to those who still have an
active SMA.
You can download the new Jaws of course and your particular ID number will
assure that you aren't charged for it.  That's how it should work, anyway.


JOHN AND LINDA JUSTICE
PERSONAL E-MAIL: john_just...@verizon.net


-Original Message-
From: JAWS-Users-List [mailto:jaws-users-list-boun...@jaws-users.com] On
Behalf Of Tamera
Sent: Wednesday, November 12, 2014 3:50 PM
To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
Subject: [JAWS-Users] JAWS 16

So I have the SMA, but no disk yet.. is this only  via on line or should I
have received mine by now?
Tamera

-Original Message-
From: JAWS-Users-List [mailto:jaws-users-list-boun...@jaws-users.com] On
Behalf Of Shane Hecker
Sent: Tuesday, November 11, 2014 3:09 PM
To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] what's new in latest jaws 15

You are correct but they released an update to Jaws 15 today. I haven't
upgraded to 16 as of yet.

Shane

On 11/11/2014 4:55 PM, Gail the U. S. Male wrote:
 no, FS came out with Jaws 16 recently.
 Mr. Gail Crowe, and my guide dog Fred
 - Original Message - From: Shane Hecker 
 shanehec...@gmail.com
 To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
 Sent: Tuesday, November 11, 2014 4:51 PM
 Subject: [JAWS-Users] what's new in latest jaws 15


 It looks like FS came out with an update to Jaws 15, but I can't find 
 a page on their site that explains what they changed with this latest 
 release. Anyone know what's new?

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Re: [JAWS-Users] JAWS 16

[John Justice]

No, unfortunately not.  It just means that you and I are covered for Jaws 16
without an additional charge since we purchased an SMA at some point.  We'll
have to pay for another SMA in order to qualify for Jaws 17 and 18 when they
are developed.


JOHN AND LINDA JUSTICE
PERSONAL E-MAIL: john_just...@verizon.net


-Original Message-
From: JAWS-Users-List [mailto:jaws-users-list-boun...@jaws-users.com] On
Behalf Of Tamera
Sent: Wednesday, November 12, 2014 9:19 PM
To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] JAWS 16

You write 
still have an active SMA,
does this mean we will no longer need to pay for SMA?
Thanks, TAmera

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From: JAWS-Users-List [mailto:jaws-users-list-boun...@jaws-users.com] On
Behalf Of John Justice
Sent: Wednesday, November 12, 2014 6:12 PM
To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] JAWS 16

I just asked the Sales Department at Freedom the same question this
afternoon.
They are only now beginning to ship the disks to those who still have an
active SMA.
You can download the new Jaws of course and your particular ID number will
assure that you aren't charged for it.  That's how it should work, anyway.


JOHN AND LINDA JUSTICE
PERSONAL E-MAIL: john_just...@verizon.net


-Original Message-
From: JAWS-Users-List [mailto:jaws-users-list-boun...@jaws-users.com] On
Behalf Of Tamera
Sent: Wednesday, November 12, 2014 3:50 PM
To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
Subject: [JAWS-Users] JAWS 16

So I have the SMA, but no disk yet.. is this only  via on line or should I
have received mine by now?
Tamera

-Original Message-
From: JAWS-Users-List [mailto:jaws-users-list-boun...@jaws-users.com] On
Behalf Of Shane Hecker
Sent: Tuesday, November 11, 2014 3:09 PM
To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] what's new in latest jaws 15

You are correct but they released an update to Jaws 15 today. I haven't
upgraded to 16 as of yet.

Shane

On 11/11/2014 4:55 PM, Gail the U. S. Male wrote:
 no, FS came out with Jaws 16 recently.
 Mr. Gail Crowe, and my guide dog Fred
 - Original Message - From: Shane Hecker 
 shanehec...@gmail.com
 To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
 Sent: Tuesday, November 11, 2014 4:51 PM
 Subject: [JAWS-Users] what's new in latest jaws 15


 It looks like FS came out with an update to Jaws 15, but I can't find 
 a page on their site that explains what they changed with this latest 
 release. Anyone know what's new?

 Shane

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Re: [JAWS-Users] Outlook 2007 help

[John Justice]

Ann,
You can create new rules easily when using the later versions of Outlook.  I
am referring to the e-mail sorting capability.  Other rules and alerts can
be created. 

CREATING A RULE IN MICROSOFT OUTLOOK:
1.  Focus on the message on which you would like to create a rule.  I use
rules to divide the messages and send them to folders.

2.  Press the Applications key or use Shift F10.

3.  Down arrow until you hear Create Rule  and press Enter on that option.

4.  Outlook gives you several options you can use which includes simply
sending that particular message directly to a folder.  To create a rule, tab
until you hear something like, When I get messages from, - - - - Edit that
information until you have only what you need to sort the message.  For
example, jaws-users-boun...@jaws-users.com Further along in the same
dialog, is a checkbox indicating Subject Contains.  Using this option, you
can edit the information to look for specific contents in the Subject field
of any message.  For example, I choose the name of the e-mail list and edit
the field so that only that information is shown.
  
5.  Continue tabbing until you locate the checkbox indicating Move To
Folder  and press spacebar to put a check there.

6.  As soon as you check that option, you will be able to tab to a folder
list.  Press Enter on the folder name you would like to use. 
If you need to create a new folder, be sure to move up until you reach the
top of your list marked Personal Folders.  If you Shift Tab at that point,
you'll reach the New  option.  Press Enter and add the folder name when
prompted.  In this way, your new folder will be a part of the main list, not
a sub-folder created within an existing folder.

7.  The focus will be returned to the option marked Move To Folder.  Tab
carefully through and make sure that the correct folder is chosen.  Tab to
Okay and press Enter.  You may be asked if you'd like to apply the new rule
to already existing messages.  Press Enter and the new rule will be applied
to the contents of your In Basket.

IMPORTED RULES:
There are rare occasions when a rule created in Outlook Express will work in
Outlook but in most cases, they do not.
One of the functions you will find in the Rules option is something called
Manage Rules and Alerts. If you press Enter on this function, you will
eventually come to a list of rules.  You can delete any of those old Outlook
rules here.  You may need to use the Move Up  and Move Down  buttons if
your list is extensive.  When you press the Delete key, you will be asked to
confirm your choice.
In this section, you can also activate any or all of the rules you have
created manually.

MESSAGE CONTENT DISPLAYED:
The Outlook defaults will usually provide most of the information you are
looking for unless the View settings have been changed.  Ann, be very
careful with these settings.  It is possible to inadvertently create a
situation where your messages will not be read at all.  There is a Restore
To Default  option.
The condition of your screen will often determine how much information is
being shown.  When you open Outlook, make sure that the display is set on
Full Screen, not Restored or one of the other options.
You mentioned the .pst file.  That file stores your Outlook environment.  It
contains a list of your folders and any other view options you may have
chosen.  The file is updated every time you open and close Outlook.  I
recommend that you do a file search and save a copy of the .pst file to
another location before making any changes in the View settings.   In that
way, you can go back to the original  by importing the .pst file you have
saved.  That is a fallback for you if you run into trouble with the settings
in the View tab.  The Import and Export options are located under the File
tab on your navigation ribbon.  

I hope that this helps you, Ann.  Someone else may have already answered
your questions.  


JOHN AND LINDA JUSTICE
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-Original Message-
From: JAWS-Users-List [mailto:jaws-users-list-boun...@jaws-users.com] On
Behalf Of Ann Marie Medlar
Sent: Saturday, November 8, 2014 11:14 AM
To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] Outlook 2007 help

Hi all,
Using J15 latest, XP, Office 2007.
Had many problems.  Outlook express got corrupted; so I am now using Outlook
2007.
2007 had problems and had to use repair called ScanPST.exe All okay but need
help with Outlook2007.
In OE I have 15 rules that were exported into Outlook2007.
Rules are not working so how do I apply current rules or how may I create
new rules in Outlook2007?
I have been going through tools, rules and I cannot make it work.  
Also the date and time are not displayed while viewing messages in the in
folder.
Thanks,
Ann
 


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Re: [JAWS-Users] [Bulk] Is there a way for JAWS to determine the completion status of a iPod syncing project?

[John Justice]

Don,
When I'm syncing my IPod 5th Generation, if I tab along, there is a section
in ITunes which indicates the completion of the project by listing the
percentages. 46% completed The display is similar to the one given which
shows how much of a disk burn has been completed. 
That only works with ITunes in the most recent builds however.  If your IPod
has IOS  7, you should be able to find that information.
However, if you are using an older IPod like Version 3, the information is
not available in the same way. 

JOHN AND LINDA JUSTICE
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From: JAWS-Users-List [mailto:jaws-users-list-boun...@jaws-users.com] On
Behalf Of Don  Cher
Sent: Friday, September 19, 2014 5:40 PM
To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] [Bulk] Is there a way for JAWS to determine the
completion status of a iPod syncing project?

With iTunes and an iPhone, the status is shown if you tab and then just sit
on that field when you find it. It only takes from a few to perhaps 20-30
seconds then and then you will hear the familiar iTunes sound indicating
completion.

Cher

second

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Behalf Of lawrence taylor
Sent: Wednesday, September 17, 2014 2:25 AM
To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
Subject: [Bulk] [JAWS-Users] Is there a way for JAWS to determine the
completion status of a iPod synking project?

All

Is there a way for JAWS to determine the completion status of a iPod synking
project?

We added the songs to iTunes library ... 

We connected the ipod and the syncing process seems to being just fine 

Are there key combinations we can press so that Jaws would speak (30%) (40%)
and eccetra. 

Using jaws13 windows 7 and iTunes 11.??? 



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Re: [JAWS-Users] junk mail

[John Justice]

Sugar,
1. Which operating system are you using?
2.  Which version of Jaws do you have?
3.  Finally, what are you using to read your e-mail?

If you are using Microsoft Outlook, the problem is simple enough.  But if
you are using ILM, that might require a bit more manipulation.

4.  Are there certain e-mail messages that are going to your Junk folder
that you don't want to go there?

If that's the case, with most decent e-mail programs, you can set things up
so that the sender is not treated as Spam.
 I see not the stars, yet their majesty guides me. 

JOHN AND LINDA JUSTICE
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Behalf Of Sugar
Sent: Wednesday, September 24, 2014 9:35 AM
To: jaws-users-list
Subject: [JAWS-Users] junk mail

Hi all, how can I  stop my e mail going to junk mail?
Sugar

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Re: [JAWS-Users] screen upside down

[John Justice]

Hi Becky.
If you are using a Desktop style keyboard, the suggestions made should work
fine.  Hold down Control and the Alt key.  Press the right arrow twice.  The
first click will put it sideways and the second click should return
everything to a normal display.
It would be best, as was suggested by another member, that you have someone
sighted around to confirm the setting.
But as Linda and I know, that isn't always possible.  We live alone and we
know more about computers than our neighbors do.  We hate asking for that
kind of help but sometimes, there just isn't a choice in the matter.
s

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Behalf Of Becky Buckner
Sent: Sunday, August 24, 2014 10:24 AM
To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
Subject: [JAWS-Users] screen upside down

Hi all.
I've been told my screen is showing upside down.  How do I urn it back to
right side up?  Using windows 7 and jaws 15.

Thanks for any help.

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[JAWS-Users] OUTLOOK EXPRESS AND WINDOWS 7

[john Justice]

With all due respect to Arianna and Simon, Outlook Express in any form does
not work with Windows 7.

Microsoft did some updating on their mail client so that Outlook Express is
no longer needed.  I'd appreciate confirmation from David or Rick but as far
as I know, that program was abandoned by Microsoft when Windows 7 was
developed.

 

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Re: [JAWS-Users] OUTLOOK EXPRESS AND WINDOWS 7

[john Justice]

Okay Mike.
Thanks for the update.
We use Outlook over here and it's fine for what we need.


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Behalf Of Mike B.
Sent: Thursday, August 7, 2014 6:30 PM
To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] OUTLOOK EXPRESS AND WINDOWS 7

Hi John,

We use OE on 3 Windows7 Pro computers.  Outlook Express is in Windows7 but,
it's not accessible unless you know how to make it work  a person figured
it out  created an executable file that will allow someone to run OE in
Win7  8.  Here is the URL:

http://www.rafailb.tk/index.php?itemid=27

It can be downloaded from:

http://www.runasxp.com/showthread.php?tid=1

You have to register to the 2nd website to download the executable.  HTH
Take care.
Mike
This email was sent from my, iBarstool.

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From: john Justice
To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
Sent: Thursday, August 07, 2014 3:20 PM
Subject: [JAWS-Users] OUTLOOK EXPRESS AND WINDOWS 7


With all due respect to Arianna and Simon, Outlook Express in any form does
not work with Windows 7.

Microsoft did some updating on their mail client so that Outlook Express is
no longer needed.  I'd appreciate confirmation from David or Rick but as far
as I know, that program was abandoned by Microsoft when Windows 7 was
developed.



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Re: [JAWS-Users] SHOWING FILE EXTENSIONS IN WINDOWS 7

[john Justice]

Okay Denny.
Thanks.  I'll give it a try.


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Of Denny Huff
Sent: Sunday, May 25, 2014 12:59 PM
To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] SHOWING FILE EXTENSIONS IN WINDOWS 7


Press your Windows Key.
Type in, folder options and press enter.
Control tab one time to, View.
Tab to your list of options and down arrow to, hide extension for known file 
types and press your spacebar to off.
Tab to OK.



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-Original Message- 
From: john Justice
Sent: Sunday, May 25, 2014 11:49 AM
To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
Subject: [JAWS-Users] SHOWING FILE EXTENSIONS IN WINDOWS 7

I have tried to remember how to do this but it has slipped my mind
completely.

How do you change the setting which will allow file extensions to show in
all folders?

For some odd reason, that function changed on my Windows 7 laptop.

Any help would be appreciated.





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[JAWS-Users] NOTES FOR OUTLOOK 2010 USERS, JUNK FOLDER OPTIONS

[john Justice]

Hello group,
I was having an awful time with messages from certain senders ending up in
my Junk folder.  I asked for help here but no one seemed to know the answer.

I did receive a hint from another technology list and I thought it might be
good to share it here.

 

Outlook 2010 has a very capable Junk folder options list.  Unlike earlier
versions of this e-mail client, the Junk submenu provides ways to avoid
having certain messages, diverted by the Spam filter,  from ending up in the
Junk folder  in error.

The Junk menu contains several options for adding people or domains to a
Safe Senders list.  That can be done manually if you have the correct e-mail
or web address or it can be done automatically.  

 

1.While in the Junk folder, press the Applications key or Shift F10.
Locate the Junk submenu and press the right arrow to access it.

2.   Press the down arrow and review the options which include never
blocking sender, never blocking a domain and so on.  

3.   The original message will still remain in the folder unless it is
deleted.  Those options apply to any subsequent messages sent by a
particular sender or domain.

4.   Press Enter on the option that applies best to that particular
message.  The software will respond either with a message indicating that
the sender or domain has been added to your Safe Senders list or requesting
that the e-mail identity or domain be added manually.

5.   In either case, an  Okay  button is provided.  Press Enter to
confirm the action. 

6.   If there are several messages from an e-mail list such as
Jaws-Users and you want to move them to the appropriate folder, eliminate
all of the other messages, then highlight all of those from that e-mail
list.  

7.   Press the Applications key or Shift F10 and choose the Move option.
A list of folders will be offered and you can move all of those messages
into that folder at the same time. 

Now that I know how to do this, it seems so simple.  But the key is knowing
that such an option exists.
I hope that this information helps someone else with a similar problem.
 

 

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Re: [JAWS-Users] Google Chrome,

[john Justice]

I have a question about Google Chrome.  How does it compare to
Internet Explorer?
I realize that this is  a matter of opinion but some of the features on
Chrome are very interesting including the one which allows the user to speak
his or her search terms.  
Has anyone been able to make this work with Jaws?
If so, what settings have to be changed?  It certainly won't work right out
of the box as far as I'm able to determine.
But then, maybe I'm missing something.  Any help would be welcome.


JOHN AND LINDA JUSTICE
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-Original Message-
From: JAWS-Users-List [mailto:jaws-users-list-boun...@jaws-users.com] On
Behalf Of Flor Lynch
Sent: Friday, May 2, 2014 2:30 PM
To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] Google Chrome,

Hi jorge,

A few years is a long time in Yahoo's world! Their Web site has become a lot
more inaccessible via the user interface since then, what with all the
changeovers they've gone through. I haven't heard anything about the Yahoo
browser itself lately, so it hasn't caught on, unless it is used just on
yahoo sites.

- Original Message -
From: TheHangMan jorgethehang...@gmail.com
To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
Sent: Friday, May 02, 2014 4:02 AM
Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] Google Chrome,


 Hi Flor,
 Yes, a couple years back I use the yahoo browser with jaws 11 and it 
 was ok
 back then.

 Jorge

 -Original Message-
From: JAWS-Users-List [mailto:jaws-users-list-boun...@jaws-users.com] 
On
 Behalf Of Flor Lynch
 Sent: Thursday, May 01, 2014 9:26 PM
 To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
 Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] Google Chrome,

 A Yahoo browser? Clarify.

 - Original Message - 
From: TheHangMan jorgethehang...@gmail.com
 To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
 Sent: Friday, May 02, 2014 2:05 AM
 Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] Google Chrome,


 Hey,
 Try Yahoo!
 Jorge
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From: JAWS-Users-List [mailto:jaws-users-list-boun...@jaws-users.com]
On
 Behalf Of Holger Fiallo
 Sent: Thursday, May 01, 2014 6:57 AM
 To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
 Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] Google Chrome,

 OK. I do not care for firefox and crome does not work well. What else
 is
 there. I will need to avoid using IE until the MS fix the problem 
 with
 IE
 11.

 -Original Message-
From: Greg Wocher
 Sent: Thursday, May 01, 2014 5:46 AM
 To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
 Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] Google Chrome,

 Hello,
 Google Chrome does not work very well with JAWS at all.  In most, if
 not
 all, edit boxes you are unable to read what you just typed in.  That
 is my
 experience with it anyways.

 Greg Wocher

 Follow me on Twitter @GWocher

 On 4/30/2014 7:37 PM, Holger Fiallo wrote:
 How well it works with jaws 15?

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Re: [JAWS-Users] CREATING NEW FOLDERS IN WINDOWS 8.1

[john Justice]

No inconvenience at all and thanks for the clarification.
However, that key combination might be limited to work within  another
program since it isn't functioning at all on my 8.1 system.
On the other hand, Control-Shift-N  works reliably.

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Behalf Of Inclusive Person
Sent: Monday, March 10, 2014 5:12 PM
To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] CREATING NEW FOLDERS IN WINDOWS 8.1

it is ault+2 not ault+3. By pressing ault+2 in windows8, you can easily
creat new folder. sorry for the inconvenience.

On 3/9/14, john Justice john_just...@verizon.net wrote:
 Oh duh!  Okay Flor.  Thanks for the clarification.


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 On Behalf Of Flor Lynch
 Sent: Saturday, March 8, 2014 3:32 PM
 To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
 Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] CREATING NEW FOLDERS IN WINDOWS 8.1

 Alt+3 is a Microsoft Word new folder command. It would not work 
 Alt+outside
 MS Word.

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 From: david davidwhitehead1...@cogeco.ca
 To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
 Sent: Saturday, March 08, 2014 12:40 PM
 Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] CREATING NEW FOLDERS IN WINDOWS 8.1


 hello there;
 well, I have never heard about the alt+3, so I did try, however, did 
 not receive any results.
 where exactly is this alt+3 used?


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On
 Behalf Of Inclusive Person
 Sent: Friday, March 7, 2014 3:47 PM
 To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
 Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] CREATING NEW FOLDERS IN WINDOWS 8.1

 Simply press ault+3 and hit enter. New folder will be created.

 On 3/7/14, david davidwhitehead1...@cogeco.ca wrote:
 hello;
 where are you wanting to create this new folder in windows 8?

 if on the desktop,  try the following;

 1, ctrl+spacebar,
 make sure you hear jaws say, not selected,

 2, press applications key,
 up arrow and enter on new sub menu,
 folder should be your first choice,
 or? you could simply press,
 applications key,
 now press, Wf
 if it's in documents,
 you simply can do the same, once in my documents, jaws will say, not 
 selected, just press applications key, up or down arrow and enter 
 on, new sub menu  now choose folder, .
 hope this helps.healps,

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 [mailto:jaws-users-list-boun...@jaws-users.com]
 On Behalf Of john Justice
 Sent: Friday, March 7, 2014 12:13 PM
 To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
 Subject: [JAWS-Users] CREATING NEW FOLDERS IN WINDOWS 8.1

 I noticed that several list members are now using Windows 8.1 as I 
 am on a laptop.

 I have tried every trick I know and can't find out how to create a 
 new folder using 8.1.  Can someone please rescue this poor 
 frustrated Windows 7 user before I give up and re-load Windows 7?

 (wicked grin)





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Re: [JAWS-Users] jaws tandem

[john Justice]

(grin)!  Not unless you want her to use you for target practice.
Same here, David.  Not enough money to do what I'd like, just what I have to
do.


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Behalf Of David Ferrin
Sent: Sunday, March 9, 2014 12:14 PM
To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] jaws tandem

It is still free as of a couple of weeks ago which was the last time I used
the service. 

It looks like it is going to stay that way, at least I hope so. The fact is
if it would become a paid service then quite a number of people will be
going without help because I don't plan on paying for something like that to
lose money helping folks. 

Picture this conversation with my wife, honey our taxes are due to be paid
and so is my tandem subscription that I am losing money on. 

There is a talk I don't want to have.
David Ferrin
ow...@jaws-users.com
Always be yourself because the people that matter don't mind, and the ones
that mind don't matter.

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Behalf Of Fanus
Sent: Sunday, March 09, 2014 10:59 AM
To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] jaws tandem

Hello David
When jaws tandem was introduced I recall that the idea was that it would be
free for a while and thereafter FS would charge a fee. Did FS indeed start
charging for the service and if so, what are the charges?
Regards
Fanus

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From: David Ferrin ow...@jaws-users.com
To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
Sent: Sunday, March 09, 2014 4:50 PM
Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] jaws tandem


screen readers, no doubt I'll get teased for my finger slipping.

David Ferrin
ow...@jaws-users.com
Always be yourself because the people that matter don't mind, and the ones
that mind don't matter.

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[mailto:jaws-users-list-boun...@jaws-users.com] On Behalf Of David Ferrin
Sent: Sunday, March 09, 2014 10:00 AM
To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] jaws tandem

I've done a lot of tandem sessions myself. Most of them good but also I've
experienced pretty much every possible glitch there is to encounter. All in
all though it is still the best feature to come across my desk since the
invention of the talking calculator, or for that matter scream readers.

The thing is it made the possible faster since I don't have to walk folks
step by step to accomplish something. It also made the impossible possible
because some things I won't walk people step by step as they are far too
touchy.

The down side is that it gave me more work to do and less free time.
David Ferrin
ow...@jaws-users.com
Always be yourself because the people that matter don't mind, and the ones
that mind don't matter.

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[mailto:jaws-users-list-boun...@jaws-users.com] On Behalf Of Kimsan
Sent: Sunday, March 09, 2014 6:54 AM
To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
Subject: [JAWS-Users] jaws tandem

Hi,

What are folks experiences with tandem? Everything peachy keen, or do you
experience what I experience during a session where jaws would stop talking
and one must wait a few until jaws starts talking again? 
Also, when it
stops talking, it seems as if everything else stops as well, because moving
around with alt-tab, does not work,  neither. Thoughts?

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Re: [JAWS-Users] New I tunes question

[john Justice]

I hope you don't mind my butting in, here.
As indicated in other messages, yes, you most definitely will need all of
those files in order to have I Tunes work properly.

FYI, I Tunes  usually brings files into the system using  a format called M4
A.  That is not MP3.  Some systems will not recognize it.  The only way I
know to bring those into the MP3 format is with some kind of converting
software.
For example, if you have Gold Wave on your system, you could record the
song, then save it as an MP3.
I believe that there are other easier software packages as well but you need
to make sure that whatever you use does recognize and can work with M4 A. 
I'll bet someone on this list can come up with several options.  My only
reason for poking my nose in is that I just had the same issue myself.


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Behalf Of Kevin Lee
Sent: Sunday, March 9, 2014 10:50 AM
To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] New I tunes question

yes you do, for some reason apple loads your computer with necessary apps. 
even if they don't seem like you need them, you dou cuz I uninstalled one
once and my itunes quit working properly!

-Original Message-
From: Richard Hamel
Sent: Saturday, March 08, 2014 4:31 PM
To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
Subject: [JAWS-Users] New I tunes question

I just installed I Tunes on my PC.

When I checked Programs and Features, I saw there were around 5 different
listings with either Apple or I Tunes.

Do I need all of these?

I'm new to I Tunes and was looking for a place to buy/download mp3 music.



Thanks for the help.



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Re: [JAWS-Users] CREATING NEW FOLDERS IN WINDOWS 8.1

[john Justice]

Oh duh!  Okay Flor.  Thanks for the clarification.


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Behalf Of Flor Lynch
Sent: Saturday, March 8, 2014 3:32 PM
To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] CREATING NEW FOLDERS IN WINDOWS 8.1

Alt+3 is a Microsoft Word new folder command. It would not work outside 
MS Word.

- Original Message - 
From: david davidwhitehead1...@cogeco.ca
To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
Sent: Saturday, March 08, 2014 12:40 PM
Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] CREATING NEW FOLDERS IN WINDOWS 8.1


 hello there;
 well, I have never heard about the alt+3, so I did try, however, did 
 not
 receive any results.
 where exactly is this alt+3 used?


 -Original Message-
From: JAWS-Users-List [mailto:jaws-users-list-boun...@jaws-users.com] 
On
 Behalf Of Inclusive Person
 Sent: Friday, March 7, 2014 3:47 PM
 To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
 Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] CREATING NEW FOLDERS IN WINDOWS 8.1

 Simply press ault+3 and hit enter. New folder will be created.

 On 3/7/14, david davidwhitehead1...@cogeco.ca wrote:
 hello;
 where are you wanting to create this new folder in windows 8?

 if on the desktop,  try the following;

 1, ctrl+spacebar,
 make sure you hear jaws say, not selected,

 2, press applications key,
 up arrow and enter on new sub menu,
 folder should be your first choice,
 or? you could simply press,
 applications key,
 now press, Wf
 if it's in documents,
 you simply can do the same, once in my documents, jaws will say, not
 selected, just press applications key, up or down arrow and enter on,
 new sub menu  now choose folder, .
 hope this helps.healps,

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 On Behalf Of john Justice
 Sent: Friday, March 7, 2014 12:13 PM
 To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
 Subject: [JAWS-Users] CREATING NEW FOLDERS IN WINDOWS 8.1

 I noticed that several list members are now using Windows 8.1 as I am
 on a laptop.

 I have tried every trick I know and can't find out how to create a 
 new
 folder using 8.1.  Can someone please rescue this poor frustrated
 Windows 7 user before I give up and re-load Windows 7?

 (wicked grin)





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Re: [JAWS-Users] CREATING NEW FOLDERS IN WINDOWS 8.1

[John Justice]

I'd like to do it in my Documents folder, David.
I tried the Alt-3 as suggested by another list member but had no success at
all.
 

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Behalf Of david
Sent: Friday, March 07, 2014 2:55 PM
To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] CREATING NEW FOLDERS IN WINDOWS 8.1

hello;
where are you wanting to create this new folder in windows 8?

if on the desktop,  try the following;

1, ctrl+spacebar,
make sure you hear jaws say, not selected,

2, press applications key,
up arrow and enter on new sub menu,
folder should be your first choice,
or? you could simply press,
applications key,
now press, Wf
if it's in documents,
you simply can do the same, once in my documents, jaws will say, not
selected, just press applications key, up or down arrow and enter on, new
sub menu  now choose folder, .
hope this helps.healps,

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Behalf Of john Justice
Sent: Friday, March 7, 2014 12:13 PM
To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
Subject: [JAWS-Users] CREATING NEW FOLDERS IN WINDOWS 8.1

I noticed that several list members are now using Windows 8.1 as I am on a
laptop.

I have tried every trick I know and can't find out how to create a new
folder using 8.1.  Can someone please rescue this poor frustrated Windows 7
user before I give up and re-load Windows 7?

(wicked grin)

 

 

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[JAWS-Users] FOLDERS IN WINDOWS 8.1, FOLLOW-UP

[John Justice]

Thanks to the list member who gave me the Control-Shift-N  hotkey for
creating folders in Windows 8.1.

It works perfectly.

 

 

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[JAWS-Users] CREATING NEW FOLDERS IN WINDOWS 8.1

[john Justice]

I noticed that several list members are now using Windows 8.1 as I am on a
laptop.

I have tried every trick I know and can't find out how to create a new
folder using 8.1.  Can someone please rescue this poor frustrated Windows 7
user before I give up and re-load Windows 7?

(wicked grin)

 

 

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Re: [JAWS-Users] iTunes 11

[john Justice]

A bit of a correction here.
The hotkey combination for enabling the Sidebar in ITunes is Control S.  It's a 
toggle so you can turn it off or on with the same combination.
I have been studying I Tunes 11 and I found that some of the lists are set up 
in a horizontal display rather than in column format.  This may confuse some 
users.
The album list is now very prominent and that is something which is a recent 
development.
You can still copy and paste items into a playlist but it isn't quite as easy 
as it was in earlier versions.
You have to be sure to be in the correct display.  The new I Tunes radio 
feature is now right out front  and it is accessible by tabbing to that 
feature.  However, here is a key thing I discovered.
In order to access a particular part of I Tunes 11, you have to use the check 
mark feature to confirm that is what you want to see.  Playlists, album lists, 
songs, books, movies and so on are all there but the layout is different in 
some respects.
Maybe this will help or maybe it will only confuse you more but I hope not.
It's a pretty good system once you get used to it.

IMPORTANT NOTE:
If you are burning to a disk and it runs to more than one, be careful.  There 
are messages which alert you if there's a problem but they're hard to find.
Usually, the disk drawer will be ejected when the first disk is finished but 
not always.  Look for an monitor the section of the display which tells you how 
much has been completed and what remains.
Jaws will get a bit confused and sometimes read values which are already 
completed.  Just listen for the lowest value or time remaining.  That is 
usually the best way to deal with this.
Navigating I Tunes 11 with Jaws is possible but it will take some patience and 
familiarity.


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-Original Message-
From: JAWS-Users-List [mailto:jaws-users-list-boun...@jaws-users.com] On Behalf 
Of Steve
Sent: Thursday, March 6, 2014 12:25 PM
To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] itunes 11

Yeah, you probably need to enable the sidebar with contrtol-shift-S I think.
- Original Message - 
From: Kevin Lee klee...@gmail.com
To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
Sent: Thursday, March 06, 2014 11:39 AM
Subject: [JAWS-Users] itunes 11


I downloaded itunes 11 and I can’t navigate it like itunes 10.7 did 
something change?
 email is golden !
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[JAWS-Users] EASE OF ACCESS IN WINDOWS 8

[john Justice]

I found that function  by going to the Start page.

As you know, if you start typing  while on that display, it shifts
automatically to the Search field.  Type Ease Of Access  and then use the up
and down arrows to find the specific one we need.

Tab over and you'll find an option which allows messages from Windows to be
displayed at 7 seconds, 15  seconds and so on.  Once set, I believe that it
will stay there as it does with Windows 7.

I hope this helps.

 

 

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Re: [JAWS-Users] [EXTERNAL] Re: RealSpeak voices provided by FS not working on 64bit win7.

[john Justice]

Andy,
When you download those voices from the JFW site, it detects what kind of
system you are using and provides the appropriate voice profiles.
If I mislead anyone inadvertently, I apologize.  I use some 32 bit software
on my own machine.  I was referring specifically to the voices provided for
Jaws.


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-Original Message-
From: JAWS-Users-List [mailto:jaws-users-list-boun...@jaws-users.com] On
Behalf Of Baracco, Andrew W
Sent: Thursday, February 6, 2014 2:16 PM
To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] [EXTERNAL] Re: RealSpeak voices provided by FS not
working on 64bit win7.

I don't know about this particular instance, but it is definitely possible
to run 32 bit programs on a 64 bit system. You just can't do the reverse.

Andy


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Behalf Of john Justice
Sent: Thursday, February 06, 2014 11:11 AM
To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
Subject: [EXTERNAL] Re: [JAWS-Users] RealSpeak voices provided by FS not
working on 64bit win7.

Dj, if the older XP system was a 32 bit, it's unlikely that those voices
will work on your newer 64 bit system.
There have been some instances where voices I have used with Jaws 13 and
14 don't work at all with Jaws 15, but I believe that is because the
supporting software has been changed.
I'm not 100% clear on this but I am sure that any program designed to work
on a 32 bit system, might not function easily in a 64 bit environment.
 

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Behalf Of DJ
Sent: Wednesday, February 5, 2014 7:33 PM
To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
Subject: [JAWS-Users] RealSpeak voices provided by FS not working on 64bit
win7.

I've been using these voices installed from the cd on Win XP, but on my
Win7 64Bit laptop it doesn't work.  Can anyone provide a viable solution?
I'd love to continue using these voices.  Thanks.

 

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Re: [JAWS-Users] Jaws not reading lower ribbon in Outlook 2010

[john Justice]

I'd like to add something else to Mike's suggestion.
There is a system based hotkey combination which will automatically minimize
and expand the ribbons.  It is Control-F1.
This is a toggle command.  
However, this does appear to be an issue with Outlook 2010.  I believe that
you can save the Outlook environment in such a way that the ribbon function
is deactivated.  I have often wondered if that might not be better.
I'm not sure how to do that but I was told that you can choose to use or not
use the ribbon commands for each of the modules in Microsoft Office.
 

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Behalf Of Mike O'Brien
Sent: Sunday, February 9, 2014 1:08 PM
To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] Jaws not reading lower ribbon in Outlook 2010

Hi

One thing to check is are the ribbons minimized.  Press alt+h to go to the
upper ribbon.  Then right arrow until you hear Minimize the ribbon button.
If this is checked, press space to uncheck it.  JAWS won't read minimized
ribbons.


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Behalf Of Alan Robbins
Sent: Saturday, February 08, 2014 07:26
To: Jaws-Users-List
Subject: [JAWS-Users] Jaws not reading lower ribbon in Outlook 2010

Having a strange issue, looking for suggestions. I have Windows 7 64 bit
home Premium running MS Office Home  Business2010. I have latest JAWS 15
and using virtual ribbons. All ribbon functions work fine in Word and Excel
and used to be fine in Outlook. Don't use them often in Outlook but needed
to the other day. When I hit the alt key it takes me to the top ribbons. The
file ribbon I can up and down arrow through ok. I can also arrow across all
the top ribbons. However when I go to go to the lower ribbon in any of them,
for instance view, it says lower ribbon and then nothing. No matter if I
arrow, tab, whatever there is no speaking by JAWS. If I use the JAWS cursor
I hear them so I know they are there. I even tried other versions of JAWS
with same outcome. Is there a setting or something I have inadvertently
changed?

 

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[JAWS-Users] ODD PROBLEM WITH OUTLOOK 2010

[John Justice]

I'm using Windows 7 Professional, Office 2010 Home  Business  and Jaws 15,
latest build.

I hadn't used this computer for quite a while.  Now, when I try to open
Outlook 2010, it takes a very long time, occasionally as much as 2 minutes.

This is not a common occurrence on this machine.  What could cause Outlook
2010 to slow down like that in the Startup?

Here's what I have already  tried.

 

I went in and deleted all unnecessary files from the folders.

I can't find any kind of diagnosing tools in the system but maybe I'm
missing something.

Will it be necessary to re-install this program?

If so, do I have to re-install the entire Home  Business 2010 or just the
Outlook program, itself?

Any help would be welcome.

 

 

 

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Re: [JAWS-Users] RealSpeak voices provided by FS not working on 64bit win7.

[john Justice]

Dj, if the older XP system was a 32 bit, it's unlikely that those voices
will work on your newer 64 bit system.
There have been some instances where voices I have used with Jaws 13 and 14
don't work at all with Jaws 15, but I believe that is because the supporting
software has been changed.
I'm not 100% clear on this but I am sure that any program designed to work
on a 32 bit system, might not function easily in a 64 bit environment.
 

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Behalf Of DJ
Sent: Wednesday, February 5, 2014 7:33 PM
To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
Subject: [JAWS-Users] RealSpeak voices provided by FS not working on 64bit
win7.

I've been using these voices installed from the cd on Win XP, but on my Win7
64Bit laptop it doesn't work.  Can anyone provide a viable solution?  I'd
love to continue using these voices.  Thanks.

 

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[JAWS-Users] WINDOWS 8, MY THANKS TO THE AUTHOR

[John Justice]

Dave Ferin gave me the hint so I looked up David Bales and his incredible
web site.

I'd like to thank David and Dave personally for the recommendation.  For
anyone trying to learn Windows 8, this is a fantastic  resource.

 

David's guides are written in HTML  format which can be a challenge at times
with Jaws.  Is there a way to convert HTML  into text so that I can save and
edit these files for personal use?

 

David asks that anyone using or distributing these files provide recognition
to him and the group he represents.  I sincerely appreciate the work which
has been done and have every intention of making use of those resources.
Thanks David. 

 

 

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[JAWS-Users] WORD 2010, TURNING OFF AUTOMATED NUMBERING WITH JAWS

[John Justice]

I'm sure someone has had this problem in the past but I can't find any
reference to it.  How do you turn off the auto-numbering feature in Word
2010?

It's driving me bonkers.

I'd rather put in my own numbers when and where I need them.

Any help would be most welcome.

s

 

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Re: [JAWS-Users] I may be carrying on like an old woman but...

[John Justice]

I must agree with Rose, here.  I have had no trouble with Jaws 14 and Office
2010.  However, each of us may use the software in a different manner.  The
latest update seems to have corrected some of the more challenging elements.

Computer problems are a complex element, made of two parts computer system
issues, two parts user misunderstanding and one part a mystery which is
rarely solved without tedium, blood, sweat and amazing luck.  (author
unknown)  

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From: JAWS-Users-List [mailto:jaws-users-list-boun...@jaws-users.com] On
Behalf Of Rose Combs
Sent: Saturday, December 01, 2012 11:55 AM
To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] I may be carrying on like an old woman but...

I am using Jaws and outlook 2010 here and have few problems, in fact really
no problems after we got the first upgrade of the beta.  


Rose Combs
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Behalf Of Alex Stone
Sent: Friday, November 30, 2012 4:59 PM
To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
Subject: [JAWS-Users] I may be carrying on like an old woman but...

I hate to be a pane, but as far as I'm concerned Jaws 14 is currently
unusable with Outlook 2010. There are so many instances where Outlook 2010
and jaws don't respond, that in my view Jaws 14 is currently unusable with
Outlook 2010. I know this has been reported since the current release came
out, but I'm rapidly coming to the conclusion that it's about time fs came
up with a fix. After all we've all been waiting since the back end of
October.

Cheers

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