Re: [JAWS-Users] update problem

[Bob Hicks]

No Stephen.  F12 does nothing.  I have noticed that Jaws repeats words and
phrases more than I have ever noticed.  Thanks again

Have a great day, 73

Bob Hicks, KC8CR


-Original Message-
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Behalf Of HICKS, Steven (ROYAL CORNWALL HOSPITALS NHS TRUST)
Sent: Wednesday, July 18, 2018 1:26 PM
To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] update problem

Which application are you saving in?
Microsoft Office, try f12.


-Original Message-
From: JAWS-Users-List  On Behalf Of
Bob Hicks
Sent: 18 July 2018 16:03
To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
Subject: [JAWS-Users] update problem

I am running the latest version of Jaws on a Win7 64 bit machine.



Here is my problem; when I use the save as control and I change the folder
when move to save the file or email, Jaws tells me a standard suggested
method, it no longer reads the file name.  The file is there and I can read
the file name with a say line command, but this is an extra step in the
process so saving a file.  I believe that Jaws used to read the file name
automatically.  Any ideas?  Did I ramble too long!



Have a great day, 73



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Re: [JAWS-Users] update problem

[Bob Hicks]

In Outlook 2013.  I'll give f12 a shot.  thanks

Have a great day, 73

Bob Hicks, KC8CR


-Original Message-
From: JAWS-Users-List [mailto:jaws-users-list-boun...@jaws-users.com] On
Behalf Of HICKS, Steven (ROYAL CORNWALL HOSPITALS NHS TRUST)
Sent: Wednesday, July 18, 2018 1:26 PM
To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] update problem

Which application are you saving in?
Microsoft Office, try f12.


-Original Message-
From: JAWS-Users-List  On Behalf Of
Bob Hicks
Sent: 18 July 2018 16:03
To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
Subject: [JAWS-Users] update problem

I am running the latest version of Jaws on a Win7 64 bit machine.



Here is my problem; when I use the save as control and I change the folder
when move to save the file or email, Jaws tells me a standard suggested
method, it no longer reads the file name.  The file is there and I can read
the file name with a say line command, but this is an extra step in the
process so saving a file.  I believe that Jaws used to read the file name
automatically.  Any ideas?  Did I ramble too long!



Have a great day, 73



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Re: [JAWS-Users] update problem

[HICKS, Steven (ROYAL CORNWALL HOSPITALS NHS TRUST)]

Which application are you saving in?
Microsoft Office, try f12.


-Original Message-
From: JAWS-Users-List  On Behalf Of Bob 
Hicks
Sent: 18 July 2018 16:03
To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
Subject: [JAWS-Users] update problem

I am running the latest version of Jaws on a Win7 64 bit machine.



Here is my problem; when I use the save as control and I change the folder when 
move to save the file or email, Jaws tells me a standard suggested method, it 
no longer reads the file name.  The file is there and I can read the file name 
with a say line command, but this is an extra step in the process so saving a 
file.  I believe that Jaws used to read the file name automatically.  Any 
ideas?  Did I ramble too long!



Have a great day, 73



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Re: [JAWS-Users] update

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Please be more descriptive with your subject lines!
Refer to the list guidelines.

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- Original Message - 
From: "Fernando Gregoire" <fergregoir...@gmail.com>
To: <jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com>
Sent: Thursday, April 12, 2018 12:31 AM
Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] update


Hi all,

Windows 10 version 1803 is already being delivered for Insiders even in the 
Release Preview ring. Builds on this particular ring are identical to the 
ones that will be released to the general public, unless any critical 
installation bug is found. By the way, it is likely that general public to 
see this release to be delivered via Windows Update after some days.

-Original Message-
From: JAWS-Users-List <jaws-users-list-boun...@jaws-users.com> On Behalf Of 
Mike B.
Sent: Tuesday, April 10, 2018 3:33 PM
To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] update

Hi Holger,

You have the latest, but a major update, 1803, is supposed to be coming 
sometime between now and whenever the hell it hits your computer!  LOL

Take care.  Mike.  Go Dodgers!
Sennt from my iBarstool.
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end you have to ignore everything, & click I agree.
- Original Message -
From: Holger Fiallo
To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
Sent: Tuesday, April 10, 2018 11:25 AM
Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] update


It says Window 1709. Is that the Spring?

-Original Message-
From: Loy Green
Sent: Tuesday, April 10, 2018 1:07 PM
To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] update

windows key then type winver and you can see what version is installed.
  - Original Message -
  From: Holger Fiallo
  To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
  Sent: Tuesday, April 10, 2018 1:58 PM
  Subject: [JAWS-Users] update


  Did a Window 10 update. I did update but did not say anything about Spring
version. How do I check which installed?

  Holger Fiallo

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Re: [JAWS-Users] update

[Fernando Gregoire]

Hi all,

Windows 10 version 1803 is already being delivered for Insiders even in the 
Release Preview ring. Builds on this particular ring are identical to the ones 
that will be released to the general public, unless any critical installation 
bug is found. By the way, it is likely that general public to see this release 
to be delivered via Windows Update after some days.

-Original Message-
From: JAWS-Users-List <jaws-users-list-boun...@jaws-users.com> On Behalf Of 
Mike B.
Sent: Tuesday, April 10, 2018 3:33 PM
To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] update

Hi Holger,

You have the latest, but a major update, 1803, is supposed to be coming 
sometime between now and whenever the hell it hits your computer!  LOL

Take care.  Mike.  Go Dodgers!
Sennt from my iBarstool.
Arguing with a woman is like reading a software license agreement.  In the end 
you have to ignore everything, & click I agree.
- Original Message -
From: Holger Fiallo
To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
Sent: Tuesday, April 10, 2018 11:25 AM
Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] update


It says Window 1709. Is that the Spring?

-Original Message-
From: Loy Green
Sent: Tuesday, April 10, 2018 1:07 PM
To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] update

windows key then type winver and you can see what version is installed.
  - Original Message -
  From: Holger Fiallo
  To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
  Sent: Tuesday, April 10, 2018 1:58 PM
  Subject: [JAWS-Users] update


  Did a Window 10 update. I did update but did not say anything about Spring
version. How do I check which installed?

  Holger Fiallo

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Re: [JAWS-Users] update

[Steve]

No, it's not the spring release; that hasn't come out quite yet.

The naming conventions for Windows 10 update releases is:
First two digits signify the release year;
Second two digits indicate the month.

Hence, 1709 was released in September, 2017 -- and is otherwise known as the 
Fall update.


Steve
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From: "Holger Fiallo" <hfia...@rcn.com>

To: <jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com>
Sent: Tuesday, April 10, 2018 2:25 PM
Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] update



It says Window 1709. Is that the Spring?

-Original Message- 
From: Loy Green

Sent: Tuesday, April 10, 2018 1:07 PM
To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] update

windows key then type winver and you can see what version is installed.
 - Original Message - 
 From: Holger Fiallo

 To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
 Sent: Tuesday, April 10, 2018 1:58 PM
 Subject: [JAWS-Users] update


 Did a Window 10 update. I did update but did not say anything about 
Spring version. How do I check which installed?


 Holger Fiallo

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Re: [JAWS-Users] update

[Mike B.]

Hi Holger,

There is actually a cumulative update that is out making your operating 
system Version 1709 (OS Build 16299.371)

I was just updated to the above version within the last 30 minutes.

Take care.  Mike.  Go Dodgers!
Sennt from my iBarstool.
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- Original Message - 
From: Holger Fiallo
To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
Sent: Tuesday, April 10, 2018 11:48 AM
Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] update


Thanks so much. Go Cubs.

-Original Message- 
From: Mike B.
Sent: Tuesday, April 10, 2018 1:33 PM
To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] update

Hi Holger,

You have the latest, but a major update, 1803, is supposed to be coming
sometime between now and whenever the hell it hits your computer!  LOL

Take care.  Mike.  Go Dodgers!
Sennt from my iBarstool.
Arguing with a woman is like reading a software license agreement.  In the
end you have to ignore everything, & click I agree.
- Original Message - 
From: Holger Fiallo
To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
Sent: Tuesday, April 10, 2018 11:25 AM
Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] update


It says Window 1709. Is that the Spring?

-Original Message- 
From: Loy Green
Sent: Tuesday, April 10, 2018 1:07 PM
To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] update

windows key then type winver and you can see what version is installed.
  - Original Message - 
  From: Holger Fiallo
  To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
  Sent: Tuesday, April 10, 2018 1:58 PM
  Subject: [JAWS-Users] update


  Did a Window 10 update. I did update but did not say anything about Spring
version. How do I check which installed?

  Holger Fiallo

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Re: [JAWS-Users] update

[HICKS, Steven (ROYAL CORNWALL HOSPITALS NHS TRUST)]

No, that is 1803.


-Original Message-
From: JAWS-Users-List <jaws-users-list-boun...@jaws-users.com> On Behalf Of 
Holger Fiallo
Sent: 10 April 2018 19:26
To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] update

It says Window 1709. Is that the Spring?

-Original Message-
From: Loy Green
Sent: Tuesday, April 10, 2018 1:07 PM
To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] update

windows key then type winver and you can see what version is installed.
  - Original Message -
  From: Holger Fiallo
  To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
  Sent: Tuesday, April 10, 2018 1:58 PM
  Subject: [JAWS-Users] update


  Did a Window 10 update. I did update but did not say anything about Spring
version. How do I check which installed?

  Holger Fiallo

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Re: [JAWS-Users] update

[Holger Fiallo]

Thanks so much. Go Cubs.

-Original Message- 
From: Mike B.

Sent: Tuesday, April 10, 2018 1:33 PM
To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] update

Hi Holger,

You have the latest, but a major update, 1803, is supposed to be coming
sometime between now and whenever the hell it hits your computer!  LOL

Take care.  Mike.  Go Dodgers!
Sennt from my iBarstool.
Arguing with a woman is like reading a software license agreement.  In the
end you have to ignore everything, & click I agree.
- Original Message - 
From: Holger Fiallo

To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
Sent: Tuesday, April 10, 2018 11:25 AM
Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] update


It says Window 1709. Is that the Spring?

-Original Message- 
From: Loy Green

Sent: Tuesday, April 10, 2018 1:07 PM
To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] update

windows key then type winver and you can see what version is installed.
 - Original Message - 
 From: Holger Fiallo

 To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
 Sent: Tuesday, April 10, 2018 1:58 PM
 Subject: [JAWS-Users] update


 Did a Window 10 update. I did update but did not say anything about Spring
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Re: [JAWS-Users] update

[Mike B.]

Hi Holger,

You have the latest, but a major update, 1803, is supposed to be coming 
sometime between now and whenever the hell it hits your computer!  LOL

Take care.  Mike.  Go Dodgers!
Sennt from my iBarstool.
Arguing with a woman is like reading a software license agreement.  In the 
end you have to ignore everything, & click I agree.
- Original Message - 
From: Holger Fiallo
To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
Sent: Tuesday, April 10, 2018 11:25 AM
Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] update


It says Window 1709. Is that the Spring?

-Original Message- 
From: Loy Green
Sent: Tuesday, April 10, 2018 1:07 PM
To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] update

windows key then type winver and you can see what version is installed.
  - Original Message - 
  From: Holger Fiallo
  To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
  Sent: Tuesday, April 10, 2018 1:58 PM
  Subject: [JAWS-Users] update


  Did a Window 10 update. I did update but did not say anything about Spring
version. How do I check which installed?

  Holger Fiallo

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Re: [JAWS-Users] update

[Holger Fiallo]

It says Window 1709. Is that the Spring?

-Original Message- 
From: Loy Green

Sent: Tuesday, April 10, 2018 1:07 PM
To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] update

windows key then type winver and you can see what version is installed.
 - Original Message - 
 From: Holger Fiallo

 To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
 Sent: Tuesday, April 10, 2018 1:58 PM
 Subject: [JAWS-Users] update


 Did a Window 10 update. I did update but did not say anything about Spring 
version. How do I check which installed?


 Holger Fiallo

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Re: [JAWS-Users] update

[Mike B.]

Hi Holger,

Press, Windows key + R, to open the Run dialogue.  Type, winver, & press 
enter.  Jaws will read what OS version, but you'll need to read using the 
Jaws cursor to read it line by line.

Take care.  Mike.  Go Dodgers!
Sennt from my iBarstool.
Arguing with a woman is like reading a software license agreement.  In the 
end you have to ignore everything, & click I agree.
- Original Message - 
From: Holger Fiallo
To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
Sent: Tuesday, April 10, 2018 10:58 AM
Subject: [JAWS-Users] update


Did a Window 10 update. I did update but did not say anything about Spring 
version. How do I check which installed?

Holger Fiallo

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Re: [JAWS-Users] update

[Loy Green]

windows key then type winver and you can see what version is installed.
  - Original Message - 
  From: Holger Fiallo 
  To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com 
  Sent: Tuesday, April 10, 2018 1:58 PM
  Subject: [JAWS-Users] update


  Did a Window 10 update. I did update but did not say anything about Spring 
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Re: [JAWS-Users] update progress with win10?

[Mr. Ed]

You can use the touch cursor and move up and down the update page and it
will tell you the progress of the download of W10 1709.
Mr. Ed

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To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] update progress with win10?

Dear friend, yes Microsoft disability is right.
There is no way to let you the progress of downloading until your machine
prompt you to restart the system!


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From: Adam Morris
Sent: Friday, October 20, 2017 1:59 PM
To: Jaws for Windows.
Subject: [JAWS-Users] update progress with win10?

Hi all,

running jaws2018.

If I go to settings and then update and security.

then check for updates I'm told there is one update which is 1709.

I gather there is no way to tell whether the update is downloading or not?

Spoke to Microsoft accessibility who said there is no way to tell if the
update is being downloaded.

They said the only way to tell is when the machine prompts you to restart.

Wondering if this is correct or if I haven't started the download yet.



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Re: [JAWS-Users] update progress with win10?

[rosecombs52]

I decided to use Narrator for the instill of the upgrade, and I am not
really at all familiar with Narrator.  However, I did get progress reports
using it, although I wish it used the Jaws commands, instead of its
convoluted commands, or at least they seem odd since I have used JAWS for 20
years.  



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Behalf Of Adam Morris
Sent: Friday, October 20, 2017 1:58 AM
To: Jaws for Windows. 
Subject: [JAWS-Users] update progress with win10?

Hi all,

running jaws2018.

If I go to settings and then update and security.

then check for updates I'm told there is one update which is 1709.

I gather there is no way to tell whether the update is downloading or not?

Spoke to Microsoft accessibility who said there is no way to tell if the
update is being downloaded.

They said the only way to tell is when the machine prompts you to restart.

Wondering if this is correct or if I haven't started the download yet.



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Re: [JAWS-Users] update progress with win10?

[Louise Johnson]

Hi when I was updating yesterday I could use Jaws key and the letter B and
listen to the hole streen and it did after saying update of windows there
was one line that shared where I  was in the update. I tried different
things but this was the only way I could find my answer Louise and princess
Kiara 


-Original Message-
From: JAWS-Users-List [mailto:jaws-users-list-boun...@jaws-users.com] On
Behalf Of Adam Morris
Sent: October 20, 2017 1:58 AM
To: Jaws for Windows. 
Subject: [JAWS-Users] update progress with win10?

Hi all,

running jaws2018.

If I go to settings and then update and security.

then check for updates I'm told there is one update which is 1709.

I gather there is no way to tell whether the update is downloading or not?

Spoke to Microsoft accessibility who said there is no way to tell if the
update is being downloaded.

They said the only way to tell is when the machine prompts you to restart.

Wondering if this is correct or if I haven't started the download yet.



-- 

Adam Morris
Jaws certified 2016
Phone:
+61 2 6654 
Email, iMessage & FaceTime
a...@damorris.com


For answers to frequently asked questions about this list visit:
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Re: [JAWS-Users] update progress with win10?

[Joseph Lee]

Hi Adam and everyone,
In this case, MS is wrong: up until Version 1703, you'll get a progress bar
when downloading and installing all updates. Starting with Version 1709,
you'll get status messages for individual updates. Also, JAWS needs to
support UIA progress bars and certain events coming from universal apps such
as Settings app in order to tell you what's going on. Unfortunately, from
time to time, Windows ships with broken UIA implementations, including a
case where progress bar values will change along with download/install
status text, which is annoying (fixed in 1709 but it also introduced a bug
of its own). Speaking of NVDA, I am the one who brought you update status
message announcements (ask me offlist if interested).
Cheers,
Joseph

-Original Message-
From: JAWS-Users-List [mailto:jaws-users-list-boun...@jaws-users.com] On
Behalf Of Fernando Gregoire
Sent: Friday, October 20, 2017 7:25 AM
To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] update progress with win10?

Microsoft Disability Answer Desk is partially correct.
The stable (released to the general public) versions of Windows 10 from
which the update to version 1709 is downloaded show update progress, but
only a general one and not for each update separately, therefore if there
are more than one update available you'll be unable to check individually
the progress of version 1709. Insider builds (those targetted to techies who
want to test Windows beta versions) show progress for each update separately
inside the list item of each update; you can see this info with JAWS by
using the Touch Cursor with Advanced Object Navigation enabled.
In any case, unlike NVDA and Windows Narrator, JAWS is currently unable to
report the progress automatically as it does in traditional (remember that
Settings is actually an Universal Windows Platform (UWP) app), so if using
JAWS you need to check the progress manually, even when Progress Bar
Announcement in JAWS is turned on.
Another alternative is to use the Media Creation Tool to download an ISO
file for the language and architecture you want and then mount and install
the ISO manually. Since the Media Creation Tool is a desktop app, JAWS will
read the download progress correctly. In the installation program the
percentage is said in text instead of a progress bar; no screen reader can
therefore report the change, but you can press INSERT+B or use
JAWS/Invisible Cursor even if you don't have JAWS 2018.

Hope it helps!

2017-10-20 5:58 GMT-03:00 Adam Morris <li...@damorris.com>:

> Hi all,
>
> running jaws2018.
>
> If I go to settings and then update and security.
>
> then check for updates I'm told there is one update which is 1709.
>
> I gather there is no way to tell whether the update is downloading or not?
>
> Spoke to Microsoft accessibility who said there is no way to tell if 
> the update is being downloaded.
>
> They said the only way to tell is when the machine prompts you to restart.
>
> Wondering if this is correct or if I haven't started the download yet.
>
>
>
> --
>
> Adam Morris
> Jaws certified 2016
> Phone:
> +61 2 6654 
> Email, iMessage & FaceTime
> a...@damorris.com
>
>
> For answers to frequently asked questions about this list visit:
> http://www.jaws-users.com/help/
>
For answers to frequently asked questions about this list visit:
http://www.jaws-users.com/help/


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Re: [JAWS-Users] update progress with win10?

[Fernando Gregoire]

Hi Adrian,
While before the latest update released on October 27 only Windows 10 beta
versions displayed progress for each update separately and this was similar
to Windows 7, the way used to get that information on W7 is not applicable
to Windows 10 for a couple of reasons:
1. Windows 10 have neither the update progress icon on the System Tray or
the Open Windows Update option in the Action Center context menu.
2. In Windows 10 the Windows Update functionality is witting the Settings
app, which is an “Universal” app. Therefore, you can't use JAWS Cursor to
review information.
3. In addition to the need of using Touch Cursor to get to the update
progress information, for some kind of bug, unlike NVDA and even the
Windows Narrator, JAWS does not read the progress information automatically
as it changes, even when Progress Bar Announcement option is turned on.
4. Although this is not a percentage, in Windows 10, unlike 7, you never
know which update related to the total is being downloaded or installed. As
you know, Windows 7 display strings like “Downloading Name of the Update
(update 2 of 9);” those strings, however, are not present in Windows 10.

2017-10-20 10:05 GMT-03:00 Adrian Spratt :

> Adam,
> I'm using windows 7, and I can confirm that a Windows Update is
> downloading and even get some information on progress, although if more
> than one update is involved, the percentage indication is limited to each
> item, not the whole set of downloads.
> In Win7, I do the following:
> JAWS key+F11 for the system tray.
> Arrow down to something like "Update is ready" and press enter. (I don't
> have one in my system tray now, so I can't give you the exact wording.
> However, MS is not named.)
> Now I press tab until I come across the system tray list in button form.
> Once again, I locate that "Update" item and press enter.
> From here on, I can get JAWS to verbalize update progress by pressing JAWS
> key+tab.
>
> I hope I've correctly remembered these steps. I don't know how they
> translate in Win10, but perhaps they give you a push in the right direction.
>
> -Original Message-
> From: JAWS-Users-List [mailto:jaws-users-list-boun...@jaws-users.com] On
> Behalf Of Adam Morris
> Sent: Friday, October 20, 2017 4:58 AM
> To: Jaws for Windows.
> Subject: [JAWS-Users] update progress with win10?
>
> Hi all,
>
> running jaws2018.
>
> If I go to settings and then update and security.
>
> then check for updates I'm told there is one update which is 1709.
>
> I gather there is no way to tell whether the update is downloading or not?
>
> Spoke to Microsoft accessibility who said there is no way to tell if the
> update is being downloaded.
>
> They said the only way to tell is when the machine prompts you to restart.
>
> Wondering if this is correct or if I haven't started the download yet.
>
>
>
> --
>
> Adam Morris
> Jaws certified 2016
> Phone:
> +61 2 6654 
> Email, iMessage & FaceTime
> a...@damorris.com
>
>
> For answers to frequently asked questions about this list visit:
> http://www.jaws-users.com/help/
>
> For answers to frequently asked questions about this list visit:
> http://www.jaws-users.com/help/
>
For answers to frequently asked questions about this list visit:
http://www.jaws-users.com/help/

Re: [JAWS-Users] update progress with win10?

[Fernando Gregoire]

Microsoft Disability Answer Desk is partially correct.
The stable (released to the general public) versions of Windows 10 from
which the update to version 1709 is downloaded show update progress, but
only a general one and not for each update separately, therefore if there
are more than one update available you'll be unable to check individually
the progress of version 1709. Insider builds (those targetted to techies
who want to test Windows beta versions) show progress for each update
separately inside the list item of each update; you can see this info with
JAWS by using the Touch Cursor with Advanced Object Navigation enabled.
In any case, unlike NVDA and Windows Narrator, JAWS is currently unable to
report the progress automatically as it does in traditional (remember that
Settings is actually an Universal Windows Platform (UWP) app), so if using
JAWS you need to check the progress manually, even when Progress Bar
Announcement in JAWS is turned on.
Another alternative is to use the Media Creation Tool to download an ISO
file for the language and architecture you want and then mount and install
the ISO manually. Since the Media Creation Tool is a desktop app, JAWS will
read the download progress correctly. In the installation program the
percentage is said in text instead of a progress bar; no screen reader can
therefore report the change, but you can press INSERT+B or use
JAWS/Invisible Cursor even if you don't have JAWS 2018.

Hope it helps!

2017-10-20 5:58 GMT-03:00 Adam Morris :

> Hi all,
>
> running jaws2018.
>
> If I go to settings and then update and security.
>
> then check for updates I'm told there is one update which is 1709.
>
> I gather there is no way to tell whether the update is downloading or not?
>
> Spoke to Microsoft accessibility who said there is no way to tell if the
> update is being downloaded.
>
> They said the only way to tell is when the machine prompts you to restart.
>
> Wondering if this is correct or if I haven't started the download yet.
>
>
>
> --
>
> Adam Morris
> Jaws certified 2016
> Phone:
> +61 2 6654 
> Email, iMessage & FaceTime
> a...@damorris.com
>
>
> For answers to frequently asked questions about this list visit:
> http://www.jaws-users.com/help/
>
For answers to frequently asked questions about this list visit:
http://www.jaws-users.com/help/

Re: [JAWS-Users] update progress with win10?

[Russ Kiehne]

   Interesting, I was able to follow the download progress when I used the 
check for updates option in settings using window eyes.   didn't try it 
using jaws 2018 beta 3.


-Original Message- 
From: Inam Uddin

Sent: Friday, October 20, 2017 3:05 AM
To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] update progress with win10?

Dear friend, yes Microsoft disability is right.
There is no way to let you the progress of downloading until your machine 
prompt you to restart the system!



When the power of love overcomes the love of power
then the world know what is peace!
You can contact me via gmail:
inamuddi...@gmail.com
outlook:
inam...@outlook.com
add me on my Skype ID:
charlsdarwin1
meet me on my facebook:
www.facebook.com/inamuddin786
follow me on my twitter ID:
www.twitter.com/charlsdarwin1
call me on my cell phones:
+92-334-3348409
+92-300-2227598

From: Adam Morris
Sent: Friday, October 20, 2017 1:59 PM
To: Jaws for Windows.
Subject: [JAWS-Users] update progress with win10?

Hi all,

running jaws2018.

If I go to settings and then update and security.

then check for updates I'm told there is one update which is 1709.

I gather there is no way to tell whether the update is downloading or not?

Spoke to Microsoft accessibility who said there is no way to tell if the
update is being downloaded.

They said the only way to tell is when the machine prompts you to restart.

Wondering if this is correct or if I haven't started the download yet.



--

Adam Morris
Jaws certified 2016
Phone:
+61 2 6654 
Email, iMessage & FaceTime
a...@damorris.com


For answers to frequently asked questions about this list visit:
http://www.jaws-users.com/help/

For answers to frequently asked questions about this list visit:
http://www.jaws-users.com/help/ 



For answers to frequently asked questions about this list visit:
http://www.jaws-users.com/help/

Re: [JAWS-Users] update progress with win10?

[Adrian Spratt]

Adam, 
I'm using windows 7, and I can confirm that a Windows Update is downloading and 
even get some information on progress, although if more than one update is 
involved, the percentage indication is limited to each item, not the whole set 
of downloads. 
In Win7, I do the following:
JAWS key+F11 for the system tray.
Arrow down to something like "Update is ready" and press enter. (I don't have 
one in my system tray now, so I can't give you the exact wording. However, MS 
is not named.)
Now I press tab until I come across the system tray list in button form. Once 
again, I locate that "Update" item and press enter.
>From here on, I can get JAWS to verbalize update progress by pressing JAWS 
>key+tab. 

I hope I've correctly remembered these steps. I don't know how they translate 
in Win10, but perhaps they give you a push in the right direction.

-Original Message-
From: JAWS-Users-List [mailto:jaws-users-list-boun...@jaws-users.com] On Behalf 
Of Adam Morris
Sent: Friday, October 20, 2017 4:58 AM
To: Jaws for Windows.
Subject: [JAWS-Users] update progress with win10?

Hi all,

running jaws2018.

If I go to settings and then update and security.

then check for updates I'm told there is one update which is 1709.

I gather there is no way to tell whether the update is downloading or not?

Spoke to Microsoft accessibility who said there is no way to tell if the update 
is being downloaded.

They said the only way to tell is when the machine prompts you to restart.

Wondering if this is correct or if I haven't started the download yet.



-- 

Adam Morris
Jaws certified 2016
Phone:
+61 2 6654 
Email, iMessage & FaceTime
a...@damorris.com


For answers to frequently asked questions about this list visit:
http://www.jaws-users.com/help/

For answers to frequently asked questions about this list visit:
http://www.jaws-users.com/help/

Re: [JAWS-Users] update progress with win10?

[Inam Uddin]

Dear friend, yes Microsoft disability is right.
There is no way to let you the progress of downloading until your machine 
prompt you to restart the system!


When the power of love overcomes the love of power
then the world know what is peace!
You can contact me via gmail:
inamuddi...@gmail.com
outlook:
inam...@outlook.com
add me on my Skype ID:
charlsdarwin1
meet me on my facebook:
www.facebook.com/inamuddin786
follow me on my twitter ID:
www.twitter.com/charlsdarwin1
call me on my cell phones:
+92-334-3348409
+92-300-2227598

From: Adam Morris
Sent: Friday, October 20, 2017 1:59 PM
To: Jaws for Windows.
Subject: [JAWS-Users] update progress with win10?

Hi all,

running jaws2018.

If I go to settings and then update and security.

then check for updates I'm told there is one update which is 1709.

I gather there is no way to tell whether the update is downloading or not?

Spoke to Microsoft accessibility who said there is no way to tell if the 
update is being downloaded.

They said the only way to tell is when the machine prompts you to restart.

Wondering if this is correct or if I haven't started the download yet.



-- 

Adam Morris
Jaws certified 2016
Phone:
+61 2 6654 
Email, iMessage & FaceTime
a...@damorris.com


For answers to frequently asked questions about this list visit:
http://www.jaws-users.com/help/

For answers to frequently asked questions about this list visit:
http://www.jaws-users.com/help/

Re: [JAWS-Users] Update your Freedom Scientific products before the W-10 creators update

[AndrewDS]

Whoa!

-Original Message-
From: JAWS-Users-List [mailto:jaws-users-list-boun...@jaws-users.com] On Behalf 
Of
David Ferrin
Sent: Thursday, April 06, 2017 10:08 AM
To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] Update your Freedom Scientific products before the 
W-10
creators update

You are correct Earth man, we are supposed to help each other out on here. 
BTW every time I here your name I wonder how Wilber is doing. No need to 
respond, just
curious.

-Original Message-
From: Mr. Ed
Sent: Thursday, April 6, 2017 12:02 PM
To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] Update your Freedom Scientific products before the
W-10 creators update

Hi Rose,
Not sure what you are responding to. Vicky ask in her email quote: What about 
people
who use JAWS 14? I switch back and forth for reasons that are related to reading
certain documents correctly. What if I update to Windows 10? Will JAWS 14 work
correctly with the updated version of Windows 10?

I informed her she could not use Jaws 14 with W10 and she had to use the latest
versions of Jaws 16,17 or 18.

So I am not quite understanding your snippy one sentence response. I thought we 
were
suppose to help answer question on this group.

Mr. Ed

-Original Message-
From: JAWS-Users-List [mailto:jaws-users-list-boun...@jaws-users.com] On Behalf 
Of Rose
Sent: Thursday, April 06, 2017 9:22 AM
To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] Update your Freedom Scientific products before the
W-10 creators update

Last update was in February, right?  I see no updates to update here.  Can we 
move on,
please?


-Original Message-
From: JAWS-Users-List [mailto:jaws-users-list-boun...@jaws-users.com] On Behalf 
Of Mr.
Ed
Sent: Wednesday, April 5, 2017 3:01 PM
To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] Update your Freedom Scientific products before the
W-10 creators update

Hi,
If you go to W10 you can not use Jaws 14. You would have to use the latest Jaws 
version
of 16, 17 or 18.
Mr. Ed
-Original Message-
From: JAWS-Users-List [mailto:jaws-users-list-boun...@jaws-users.com] On Behalf 
Of
Vicki
Sent: Wednesday, April 05, 2017 4:44 PM
To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] Update your Freedom Scientific products before the
W-10 creators update

What about people who use JAWS 14? I switch back and forth for reasons that are 
related
to reading certain documents correctly. What if I update to Windows 10? Will 
JAWS 14
work correctly with the updated version of Windows 10?

I am still currently using Windows 7, but I know there will be a time when I 
need to
switch.

Vicki

- Original Message -
From: "David Ferrin" <ow...@jaws-users.com>
To: <jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com>
Sent: Tuesday, April 04, 2017 9:50 PM
Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] Update your Freedom Scientific products before the
W-10 creators update


> If you don't have windows 10 then you are not effected at all.
>
> -Original Message-
> From: Michele Thredgold
> Sent: Tuesday, April 4, 2017 8:36 PM
> To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
> Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] Update your Freedom Scientific products 
> before the W-10 creators update
>
> How's it going to affect those of us who are about to purchase new 
> laptops? My JAWS is up-to-date, but I am still running Windows 7 on my 
> current laptop because it doesn't possess enough RAM for Windows 10.
>
> Cheers!
>
> Michele
>
> - Original Message -
> From: Justin Williams  <justin.willia...@gmail.com>
> To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
> Date: Monday, 3 April 2017 12:35 am
> Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] Update your Freedom Scientific products 
> before the W-10 creators update
>
>>
>>
>> When is this windows update  coming out?
>>  Justin
>>
>> -Original Message-
>> From: JAWS-Users-List [mailto:jaws-users-list-boun...@jaws-users.com]
>> On Behalf Of Jim Flusche
>> Sent: Sunday, April 2, 2017 11:02 AM
>> To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
>> Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] Update your Freedom Scientific products 
>> before the
>> W-10 creators update
>>
>> Hi owen, your welcome.
>>
>>
>> Your humble pinhead!
>> Owner of the W-10 and Jaws Yahoo group! Smiles.
>>
>> -----Original Message-
>> From: JAWS-Users-List [mailto:jaws-users-list-boun...@jaws-users.com]
>> On Behalf Of owen palamountain
>> Sent: Sunday, April 2, 2017 4:41 AM
>> To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
>> Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] Update your Freedom Scientific products 
>> before the
>> W-10 creators update
>>
>> Thanks Mr pinhead.
>>
>> -Original Message-
>> From: JAWS-Users-List [mailto:jaws-users-list-boun...@jaws-users.com]
>> On Behalf Of 

Re: [JAWS-Users] Update your Freedom Scientific products before the W-10 creators update

[Mr. Ed]

I will tell you about Wilber some other time. I have to go and put on the
feed bag now. He he he he he 
Mr. Ed
-Original Message-
From: JAWS-Users-List [mailto:jaws-users-list-boun...@jaws-users.com] On
Behalf Of David Ferrin
Sent: Thursday, April 06, 2017 12:08 PM
To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] Update your Freedom Scientific products before the
W-10 creators update

You are correct Earth man, we are supposed to help each other out on here. 
BTW every time I here your name I wonder how Wilber is doing. No need to
respond, just curious.

-Original Message-
From: Mr. Ed
Sent: Thursday, April 6, 2017 12:02 PM
To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] Update your Freedom Scientific products before the
W-10 creators update

Hi Rose,
Not sure what you are responding to. Vicky ask in her email quote: What
about people who use JAWS 14? I switch back and forth for reasons that are
related to reading certain documents correctly. What if I update to Windows
10? Will JAWS 14 work correctly with the updated version of Windows 10?

I informed her she could not use Jaws 14 with W10 and she had to use the
latest versions of Jaws 16,17 or 18.

So I am not quite understanding your snippy one sentence response. I thought
we were suppose to help answer question on this group.

Mr. Ed

-Original Message-
From: JAWS-Users-List [mailto:jaws-users-list-boun...@jaws-users.com] On
Behalf Of Rose
Sent: Thursday, April 06, 2017 9:22 AM
To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] Update your Freedom Scientific products before the
W-10 creators update

Last update was in February, right?  I see no updates to update here.  Can
we move on, please?


-Original Message-
From: JAWS-Users-List [mailto:jaws-users-list-boun...@jaws-users.com] On
Behalf Of Mr. Ed
Sent: Wednesday, April 5, 2017 3:01 PM
To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] Update your Freedom Scientific products before the
W-10 creators update

Hi,
If you go to W10 you can not use Jaws 14. You would have to use the latest
Jaws version of 16, 17 or 18.
Mr. Ed
-Original Message-
From: JAWS-Users-List [mailto:jaws-users-list-boun...@jaws-users.com] On
Behalf Of Vicki
Sent: Wednesday, April 05, 2017 4:44 PM
To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] Update your Freedom Scientific products before the
W-10 creators update

What about people who use JAWS 14? I switch back and forth for reasons that
are related to reading certain documents correctly. What if I update to
Windows 10? Will JAWS 14 work correctly with the updated version of Windows
10?

I am still currently using Windows 7, but I know there will be a time when I
need to switch.

Vicki

- Original Message -
From: "David Ferrin" <ow...@jaws-users.com>
To: <jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com>
Sent: Tuesday, April 04, 2017 9:50 PM
Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] Update your Freedom Scientific products before the
W-10 creators update


> If you don't have windows 10 then you are not effected at all.
>
> -Original Message-
> From: Michele Thredgold
> Sent: Tuesday, April 4, 2017 8:36 PM
> To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
> Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] Update your Freedom Scientific products 
> before the W-10 creators update
>
> How's it going to affect those of us who are about to purchase new 
> laptops? My JAWS is up-to-date, but I am still running Windows 7 on my 
> current laptop because it doesn't possess enough RAM for Windows 10.
>
> Cheers!
>
> Michele
>
> - Original Message -
> From: Justin Williams  <justin.willia...@gmail.com>
> To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
> Date: Monday, 3 April 2017 12:35 am
> Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] Update your Freedom Scientific products 
> before the W-10 creators update
>
>>
>>
>> When is this windows update  coming out?
>>  Justin
>>
>> -Original Message-
>> From: JAWS-Users-List [mailto:jaws-users-list-boun...@jaws-users.com]
>> On Behalf Of Jim Flusche
>> Sent: Sunday, April 2, 2017 11:02 AM
>> To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
>> Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] Update your Freedom Scientific products 
>> before the
>> W-10 creators update
>>
>> Hi owen, your welcome.
>>
>>
>> Your humble pinhead!
>> Owner of the W-10 and Jaws Yahoo group! Smiles.
>>
>> -----Original Message-
>> From: JAWS-Users-List [mailto:jaws-users-list-boun...@jaws-users.com]
>> On Behalf Of owen palamountain
>> Sent: Sunday, April 2, 2017 4:41 AM
>> To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
>> Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] Update your Freedom Scientific products 
>> before the
>> W-10 creators update
>>
>> Thanks Mr pinhead.
>>
>> -Original Message-
>> From

Re: [JAWS-Users] Update your Freedom Scientific products before the W-10 creators update

[Vicki]

My only question with using previous versions of Jaws was related to reading 
.PDF documents while using Windows 10.


I have found that I have several .PDF documents that JAWS 15 and above, 
especially JAWS 18, will eliminate necessary information when reading. The 
only way I can get all of the information I need in the document is when I 
use JAWS 14. Since one of these documents relates to my bank statement and 
several others relate to other documents where I need all of the information 
read to me, I was wondering what will happen when I need to switch to 
Windows 10 and have no choice but to use a later version of JAWS when 
reading these documents.


Vicki

- Original Message - 
From: "Rose" <rosecomb...@cox.net>

To: <jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com>
Sent: Thursday, April 06, 2017 10:22 AM
Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] Update your Freedom Scientific products before the 
W-10 creators update




Last update was in February, right?  I see no updates to update here.  Can
we move on, please?


-Original Message-
From: JAWS-Users-List [mailto:jaws-users-list-boun...@jaws-users.com] On
Behalf Of Mr. Ed
Sent: Wednesday, April 5, 2017 3:01 PM
To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] Update your Freedom Scientific products before 
the

W-10 creators update

Hi,
If you go to W10 you can not use Jaws 14. You would have to use the latest
Jaws version of 16, 17 or 18.
Mr. Ed
-Original Message-
From: JAWS-Users-List [mailto:jaws-users-list-boun...@jaws-users.com] On
Behalf Of Vicki
Sent: Wednesday, April 05, 2017 4:44 PM
To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] Update your Freedom Scientific products before 
the

W-10 creators update

What about people who use JAWS 14? I switch back and forth for reasons 
that

are related to reading certain documents correctly. What if I update to
Windows 10? Will JAWS 14 work correctly with the updated version of 
Windows

10?

I am still currently using Windows 7, but I know there will be a time when 
I

need to switch.

Vicki

- Original Message -
From: "David Ferrin" <ow...@jaws-users.com>
To: <jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com>
Sent: Tuesday, April 04, 2017 9:50 PM
Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] Update your Freedom Scientific products before 
the

W-10 creators update



If you don't have windows 10 then you are not effected at all.

-Original Message-
From: Michele Thredgold
Sent: Tuesday, April 4, 2017 8:36 PM
To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] Update your Freedom Scientific products
before the W-10 creators update

How's it going to affect those of us who are about to purchase new
laptops? My JAWS is up-to-date, but I am still running Windows 7 on my
current laptop because it doesn't possess enough RAM for Windows 10.

Cheers!

Michele

- Original Message -
From: Justin Williams  <justin.willia...@gmail.com>
To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
Date: Monday, 3 April 2017 12:35 am
Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] Update your Freedom Scientific products
before the W-10 creators update




When is this windows update  coming out?
 Justin

-Original Message-
From: JAWS-Users-List [mailto:jaws-users-list-boun...@jaws-users.com]
On Behalf Of Jim Flusche
Sent: Sunday, April 2, 2017 11:02 AM
To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] Update your Freedom Scientific products
before the
W-10 creators update

Hi owen, your welcome.


Your humble pinhead!
Owner of the W-10 and Jaws Yahoo group! Smiles.

-Original Message-
From: JAWS-Users-List [mailto:jaws-users-list-boun...@jaws-users.com]
On Behalf Of owen palamountain
Sent: Sunday, April 2, 2017 4:41 AM
To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] Update your Freedom Scientific products
before the
W-10 creators update

Thanks Mr pinhead.

-Original Message-
From: JAWS-Users-List [mailto:jaws-users-list-boun...@jaws-users.com]
On Behalf Of Jim Flusche
Sent: Sunday, 2 April 2017 4:55 AM
To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
Subject: [JAWS-Users] Update your Freedom Scientific products before
the
W-10 creators update

Hi Jaws Users list, remember to check the versions of all your F S
products before the Creators update comes out for W-10.
Go to the following page on Freedom Scientific's website.

http://www.freedomscientific.com/Support/TechnicalSupport/Bulletin/16
31

Technical Support: Will JAWS, ZoomText, and MAGic work with the
Windows
10
Creators update coming in April 2017?
The Windows 10 Creators update is the next major release from
Microsoft scheduled to begin rolling out to Windows 10 users in April
2017. During the testing of insider builds for this update, issues
were discovered that impacted ZoomText, JAWS, and MAGic. These issues
have been addressed and updates to these products are now available.
It is important that customers who are using Windows 10 and getting
all its updates, update our software prior to the install

Re: [JAWS-Users] Update your Freedom Scientific products before the W-10 creators update

[David Ferrin]

You are correct Earth man, we are supposed to help each other out on here. 
BTW every time I here your name I wonder how Wilber is doing. No need to 
respond, just curious.


-Original Message- 
From: Mr. Ed

Sent: Thursday, April 6, 2017 12:02 PM
To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] Update your Freedom Scientific products before the 
W-10 creators update


Hi Rose,
Not sure what you are responding to. Vicky ask in her email quote: What
about people who use JAWS 14? I switch back and forth for reasons that are
related to reading certain documents correctly. What if I update to Windows
10? Will JAWS 14 work correctly with the updated version of Windows 10?

I informed her she could not use Jaws 14 with W10 and she had to use the
latest versions of Jaws 16,17 or 18.

So I am not quite understanding your snippy one sentence response. I thought
we were suppose to help answer question on this group.

Mr. Ed

-Original Message-
From: JAWS-Users-List [mailto:jaws-users-list-boun...@jaws-users.com] On
Behalf Of Rose
Sent: Thursday, April 06, 2017 9:22 AM
To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] Update your Freedom Scientific products before the
W-10 creators update

Last update was in February, right?  I see no updates to update here.  Can
we move on, please?


-Original Message-
From: JAWS-Users-List [mailto:jaws-users-list-boun...@jaws-users.com] On
Behalf Of Mr. Ed
Sent: Wednesday, April 5, 2017 3:01 PM
To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] Update your Freedom Scientific products before the
W-10 creators update

Hi,
If you go to W10 you can not use Jaws 14. You would have to use the latest
Jaws version of 16, 17 or 18.
Mr. Ed
-Original Message-
From: JAWS-Users-List [mailto:jaws-users-list-boun...@jaws-users.com] On
Behalf Of Vicki
Sent: Wednesday, April 05, 2017 4:44 PM
To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] Update your Freedom Scientific products before the
W-10 creators update

What about people who use JAWS 14? I switch back and forth for reasons that
are related to reading certain documents correctly. What if I update to
Windows 10? Will JAWS 14 work correctly with the updated version of Windows
10?

I am still currently using Windows 7, but I know there will be a time when I
need to switch.

Vicki

- Original Message -
From: "David Ferrin" <ow...@jaws-users.com>
To: <jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com>
Sent: Tuesday, April 04, 2017 9:50 PM
Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] Update your Freedom Scientific products before the
W-10 creators update



If you don't have windows 10 then you are not effected at all.

-Original Message-
From: Michele Thredgold
Sent: Tuesday, April 4, 2017 8:36 PM
To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] Update your Freedom Scientific products
before the W-10 creators update

How's it going to affect those of us who are about to purchase new
laptops? My JAWS is up-to-date, but I am still running Windows 7 on my
current laptop because it doesn't possess enough RAM for Windows 10.

Cheers!

Michele

- Original Message -
From: Justin Williams  <justin.willia...@gmail.com>
To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
Date: Monday, 3 April 2017 12:35 am
Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] Update your Freedom Scientific products
before the W-10 creators update




When is this windows update  coming out?
 Justin

-Original Message-
From: JAWS-Users-List [mailto:jaws-users-list-boun...@jaws-users.com]
On Behalf Of Jim Flusche
Sent: Sunday, April 2, 2017 11:02 AM
To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] Update your Freedom Scientific products
before the
W-10 creators update

Hi owen, your welcome.


Your humble pinhead!
Owner of the W-10 and Jaws Yahoo group! Smiles.

-Original Message-
From: JAWS-Users-List [mailto:jaws-users-list-boun...@jaws-users.com]
On Behalf Of owen palamountain
Sent: Sunday, April 2, 2017 4:41 AM
To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] Update your Freedom Scientific products
before the
W-10 creators update

Thanks Mr pinhead.

-Original Message-
From: JAWS-Users-List [mailto:jaws-users-list-boun...@jaws-users.com]
On Behalf Of Jim Flusche
Sent: Sunday, 2 April 2017 4:55 AM
To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
Subject: [JAWS-Users] Update your Freedom Scientific products before
the
W-10 creators update

Hi Jaws Users list, remember to check the versions of all your F S
products before the Creators update comes out for W-10.
Go to the following page on Freedom Scientific's website.

http://www.freedomscientific.com/Support/TechnicalSupport/Bulletin/16
31

Technical Support: Will JAWS, ZoomText, and MAGic work with the
Windows
10
Creators update coming in April 2017?
The Windows 10 Creators update is the next major release from
Microsoft scheduled to begin rolling out to Windows 10 users in April
2017. During the testing of insider builds 

Re: [JAWS-Users] Update your Freedom Scientific products before the W-10 creators update

[Mr. Ed]

Hi Rose,
Not sure what you are responding to. Vicky ask in her email quote: What
about people who use JAWS 14? I switch back and forth for reasons that are
related to reading certain documents correctly. What if I update to Windows
10? Will JAWS 14 work correctly with the updated version of Windows 10?
 
I informed her she could not use Jaws 14 with W10 and she had to use the
latest versions of Jaws 16,17 or 18.

So I am not quite understanding your snippy one sentence response. I thought
we were suppose to help answer question on this group.

Mr. Ed

-Original Message-
From: JAWS-Users-List [mailto:jaws-users-list-boun...@jaws-users.com] On
Behalf Of Rose
Sent: Thursday, April 06, 2017 9:22 AM
To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] Update your Freedom Scientific products before the
W-10 creators update

Last update was in February, right?  I see no updates to update here.  Can
we move on, please?  


-Original Message-
From: JAWS-Users-List [mailto:jaws-users-list-boun...@jaws-users.com] On
Behalf Of Mr. Ed
Sent: Wednesday, April 5, 2017 3:01 PM
To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] Update your Freedom Scientific products before the
W-10 creators update

Hi,
If you go to W10 you can not use Jaws 14. You would have to use the latest
Jaws version of 16, 17 or 18. 
Mr. Ed
-Original Message-
From: JAWS-Users-List [mailto:jaws-users-list-boun...@jaws-users.com] On
Behalf Of Vicki
Sent: Wednesday, April 05, 2017 4:44 PM
To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] Update your Freedom Scientific products before the
W-10 creators update

What about people who use JAWS 14? I switch back and forth for reasons that
are related to reading certain documents correctly. What if I update to
Windows 10? Will JAWS 14 work correctly with the updated version of Windows
10?

I am still currently using Windows 7, but I know there will be a time when I
need to switch.

Vicki

- Original Message -
From: "David Ferrin" <ow...@jaws-users.com>
To: <jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com>
Sent: Tuesday, April 04, 2017 9:50 PM
Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] Update your Freedom Scientific products before the
W-10 creators update


> If you don't have windows 10 then you are not effected at all.
>
> -Original Message-
> From: Michele Thredgold
> Sent: Tuesday, April 4, 2017 8:36 PM
> To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
> Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] Update your Freedom Scientific products 
> before the W-10 creators update
>
> How's it going to affect those of us who are about to purchase new 
> laptops? My JAWS is up-to-date, but I am still running Windows 7 on my 
> current laptop because it doesn't possess enough RAM for Windows 10.
>
> Cheers!
>
> Michele
>
> - Original Message -
> From: Justin Williams  <justin.willia...@gmail.com>
> To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
> Date: Monday, 3 April 2017 12:35 am
> Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] Update your Freedom Scientific products 
> before the W-10 creators update
>
>>
>>
>> When is this windows update  coming out?
>>  Justin
>>
>> -Original Message-
>> From: JAWS-Users-List [mailto:jaws-users-list-boun...@jaws-users.com]
>> On Behalf Of Jim Flusche
>> Sent: Sunday, April 2, 2017 11:02 AM
>> To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
>> Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] Update your Freedom Scientific products 
>> before the
>> W-10 creators update
>>
>> Hi owen, your welcome.
>>
>>
>> Your humble pinhead!
>> Owner of the W-10 and Jaws Yahoo group! Smiles.
>>
>> -----Original Message-
>> From: JAWS-Users-List [mailto:jaws-users-list-boun...@jaws-users.com]
>> On Behalf Of owen palamountain
>> Sent: Sunday, April 2, 2017 4:41 AM
>> To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
>> Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] Update your Freedom Scientific products 
>> before the
>> W-10 creators update
>>
>> Thanks Mr pinhead.
>>
>> -Original Message-
>> From: JAWS-Users-List [mailto:jaws-users-list-boun...@jaws-users.com]
>> On Behalf Of Jim Flusche
>> Sent: Sunday, 2 April 2017 4:55 AM
>> To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
>> Subject: [JAWS-Users] Update your Freedom Scientific products before 
>> the
>> W-10 creators update
>>
>> Hi Jaws Users list, remember to check the versions of all your F S 
>> products before the Creators update comes out for W-10.
>> Go to the following page on Freedom Scientific's website.
>>
>> http://www.freedomscientific.com/Support/TechnicalSupport/Bulletin/16
>> 31
>>
>> Technical Support: Will JAWS, ZoomText, and MAGic work with the 
>> Windows
>> 10
>> Creators update coming in April 2017

Re: [JAWS-Users] Update your Freedom Scientific products before the W-10 creators update

[Rose]

Last update was in February, right?  I see no updates to update here.  Can
we move on, please?  


-Original Message-
From: JAWS-Users-List [mailto:jaws-users-list-boun...@jaws-users.com] On
Behalf Of Mr. Ed
Sent: Wednesday, April 5, 2017 3:01 PM
To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] Update your Freedom Scientific products before the
W-10 creators update

Hi,
If you go to W10 you can not use Jaws 14. You would have to use the latest
Jaws version of 16, 17 or 18. 
Mr. Ed
-Original Message-
From: JAWS-Users-List [mailto:jaws-users-list-boun...@jaws-users.com] On
Behalf Of Vicki
Sent: Wednesday, April 05, 2017 4:44 PM
To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] Update your Freedom Scientific products before the
W-10 creators update

What about people who use JAWS 14? I switch back and forth for reasons that
are related to reading certain documents correctly. What if I update to
Windows 10? Will JAWS 14 work correctly with the updated version of Windows
10?

I am still currently using Windows 7, but I know there will be a time when I
need to switch.

Vicki

- Original Message -
From: "David Ferrin" <ow...@jaws-users.com>
To: <jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com>
Sent: Tuesday, April 04, 2017 9:50 PM
Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] Update your Freedom Scientific products before the
W-10 creators update


> If you don't have windows 10 then you are not effected at all.
>
> -Original Message-
> From: Michele Thredgold
> Sent: Tuesday, April 4, 2017 8:36 PM
> To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
> Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] Update your Freedom Scientific products 
> before the W-10 creators update
>
> How's it going to affect those of us who are about to purchase new 
> laptops? My JAWS is up-to-date, but I am still running Windows 7 on my 
> current laptop because it doesn't possess enough RAM for Windows 10.
>
> Cheers!
>
> Michele
>
> - Original Message -
> From: Justin Williams  <justin.willia...@gmail.com>
> To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
> Date: Monday, 3 April 2017 12:35 am
> Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] Update your Freedom Scientific products 
> before the W-10 creators update
>
>>
>>
>> When is this windows update  coming out?
>>  Justin
>>
>> -Original Message-
>> From: JAWS-Users-List [mailto:jaws-users-list-boun...@jaws-users.com]
>> On Behalf Of Jim Flusche
>> Sent: Sunday, April 2, 2017 11:02 AM
>> To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
>> Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] Update your Freedom Scientific products 
>> before the
>> W-10 creators update
>>
>> Hi owen, your welcome.
>>
>>
>> Your humble pinhead!
>> Owner of the W-10 and Jaws Yahoo group! Smiles.
>>
>> -----Original Message-
>> From: JAWS-Users-List [mailto:jaws-users-list-boun...@jaws-users.com]
>> On Behalf Of owen palamountain
>> Sent: Sunday, April 2, 2017 4:41 AM
>> To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
>> Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] Update your Freedom Scientific products 
>> before the
>> W-10 creators update
>>
>> Thanks Mr pinhead.
>>
>> -Original Message-
>> From: JAWS-Users-List [mailto:jaws-users-list-boun...@jaws-users.com]
>> On Behalf Of Jim Flusche
>> Sent: Sunday, 2 April 2017 4:55 AM
>> To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
>> Subject: [JAWS-Users] Update your Freedom Scientific products before 
>> the
>> W-10 creators update
>>
>> Hi Jaws Users list, remember to check the versions of all your F S 
>> products before the Creators update comes out for W-10.
>> Go to the following page on Freedom Scientific's website.
>>
>> http://www.freedomscientific.com/Support/TechnicalSupport/Bulletin/16
>> 31
>>
>> Technical Support: Will JAWS, ZoomText, and MAGic work with the 
>> Windows
>> 10
>> Creators update coming in April 2017?
>> The Windows 10 Creators update is the next major release from 
>> Microsoft scheduled to begin rolling out to Windows 10 users in April 
>> 2017. During the testing of insider builds for this update, issues 
>> were discovered that impacted ZoomText, JAWS, and MAGic. These issues 
>> have been addressed and updates to these products are now available.
>> It is important that customers who are using Windows 10 and getting 
>> all its updates, update our software prior to the installation of the 
>> Creators update. Otherwise, you could experience problems with the 
>> login screen as well as reading and navigating the Start menu.
>> Make sure you are updated to the following versions.
>> What versions are ready for the Creators update for W-10.
>>
>> * Z

Re: [JAWS-Users] Update your Freedom Scientific products before the W-10 creators update

[Mr. Ed]

Hi,
If you go to W10 you can not use Jaws 14. You would have to use the latest
Jaws version of 16, 17 or 18. 
Mr. Ed
-Original Message-
From: JAWS-Users-List [mailto:jaws-users-list-boun...@jaws-users.com] On
Behalf Of Vicki
Sent: Wednesday, April 05, 2017 4:44 PM
To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] Update your Freedom Scientific products before the
W-10 creators update

What about people who use JAWS 14? I switch back and forth for reasons that
are related to reading certain documents correctly. What if I update to
Windows 10? Will JAWS 14 work correctly with the updated version of Windows
10?

I am still currently using Windows 7, but I know there will be a time when I
need to switch.

Vicki

- Original Message -
From: "David Ferrin" <ow...@jaws-users.com>
To: <jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com>
Sent: Tuesday, April 04, 2017 9:50 PM
Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] Update your Freedom Scientific products before the
W-10 creators update


> If you don't have windows 10 then you are not effected at all.
>
> -Original Message-
> From: Michele Thredgold
> Sent: Tuesday, April 4, 2017 8:36 PM
> To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
> Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] Update your Freedom Scientific products 
> before the W-10 creators update
>
> How's it going to affect those of us who are about to purchase new 
> laptops? My JAWS is up-to-date, but I am still running Windows 7 on my 
> current laptop because it doesn't possess enough RAM for Windows 10.
>
> Cheers!
>
> Michele
>
> - Original Message -
> From: Justin Williams  <justin.willia...@gmail.com>
> To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
> Date: Monday, 3 April 2017 12:35 am
> Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] Update your Freedom Scientific products 
> before the W-10 creators update
>
>>
>>
>> When is this windows update  coming out?
>>  Justin
>>
>> -Original Message-
>> From: JAWS-Users-List [mailto:jaws-users-list-boun...@jaws-users.com] 
>> On Behalf Of Jim Flusche
>> Sent: Sunday, April 2, 2017 11:02 AM
>> To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
>> Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] Update your Freedom Scientific products 
>> before the
>> W-10 creators update
>>
>> Hi owen, your welcome.
>>
>>
>> Your humble pinhead!
>> Owner of the W-10 and Jaws Yahoo group! Smiles.
>>
>> -----Original Message-
>> From: JAWS-Users-List [mailto:jaws-users-list-boun...@jaws-users.com] 
>> On Behalf Of owen palamountain
>> Sent: Sunday, April 2, 2017 4:41 AM
>> To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
>> Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] Update your Freedom Scientific products 
>> before the
>> W-10 creators update
>>
>> Thanks Mr pinhead.
>>
>> -Original Message-
>> From: JAWS-Users-List [mailto:jaws-users-list-boun...@jaws-users.com] 
>> On Behalf Of Jim Flusche
>> Sent: Sunday, 2 April 2017 4:55 AM
>> To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
>> Subject: [JAWS-Users] Update your Freedom Scientific products before 
>> the
>> W-10 creators update
>>
>> Hi Jaws Users list, remember to check the versions of all your F S 
>> products before the Creators update comes out for W-10.
>> Go to the following page on Freedom Scientific's website.
>>
>> http://www.freedomscientific.com/Support/TechnicalSupport/Bulletin/16
>> 31
>>
>> Technical Support: Will JAWS, ZoomText, and MAGic work with the 
>> Windows
>> 10
>> Creators update coming in April 2017?
>> The Windows 10 Creators update is the next major release from 
>> Microsoft scheduled to begin rolling out to Windows 10 users in April 
>> 2017. During the testing of insider builds for this update, issues 
>> were discovered that impacted ZoomText, JAWS, and MAGic. These issues 
>> have been addressed and updates to these products are now available. 
>> It is important that customers who are using Windows 10 and getting 
>> all its updates, update our software prior to the installation of the 
>> Creators update. Otherwise, you could experience problems with the 
>> login screen as well as reading and navigating the Start menu.
>> Make sure you are updated to the following versions.
>> What versions are ready for the Creators update for W-10.
>>
>> * ZoomText 11.2.85 - 32-bit and 64-bit
>>
>> * JAWS 18.0.2530 64-bit English
>> * JAWS 18.0.2530 32-bit English
>>
>> * JAWS 17.0.2729 64-bit English
>> * JAWS 17.0.2729 32-bit English
>>
>> * JAWS 16.0.4474 64-bit English
>> * JAWS 16.0.4474 32-bit English
>>
>> * MAGic 14.0.110 64-bit English
>> * MAGic 14.0.110 32

Re: [JAWS-Users] Update your Freedom Scientific products before the W-10 creators update

[Vicki]

What about people who use JAWS 14? I switch back and forth for reasons that 
are related to reading certain documents correctly. What if I update to 
Windows 10? Will JAWS 14 work correctly with the updated version of Windows 
10?


I am still currently using Windows 7, but I know there will be a time when I 
need to switch.


Vicki

- Original Message - 
From: "David Ferrin" <ow...@jaws-users.com>

To: <jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com>
Sent: Tuesday, April 04, 2017 9:50 PM
Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] Update your Freedom Scientific products before the 
W-10 creators update




If you don't have windows 10 then you are not effected at all.

-Original Message- 
From: Michele Thredgold

Sent: Tuesday, April 4, 2017 8:36 PM
To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] Update your Freedom Scientific products before 
the W-10 creators update


How's it going to affect those of us who are about to purchase new 
laptops? My JAWS is up-to-date, but I am still running Windows 7 on my 
current laptop because it doesn't possess enough RAM for Windows 10.


Cheers!

Michele

- Original Message -
From: Justin Williams  <justin.willia...@gmail.com>
To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
Date: Monday, 3 April 2017 12:35 am
Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] Update your Freedom Scientific products before 
the W-10 creators update





When is this windows update  coming out?
 Justin

-Original Message-
From: JAWS-Users-List [mailto:jaws-users-list-boun...@jaws-users.com] On
Behalf Of Jim Flusche
Sent: Sunday, April 2, 2017 11:02 AM
To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] Update your Freedom Scientific products before 
the

W-10 creators update

Hi owen, your welcome.


Your humble pinhead!
Owner of the W-10 and Jaws Yahoo group! Smiles.

-Original Message-
From: JAWS-Users-List [mailto:jaws-users-list-boun...@jaws-users.com] On
Behalf Of owen palamountain
Sent: Sunday, April 2, 2017 4:41 AM
To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] Update your Freedom Scientific products before 
the

W-10 creators update

Thanks Mr pinhead.

-Original Message-
From: JAWS-Users-List [mailto:jaws-users-list-boun...@jaws-users.com] On
Behalf Of Jim Flusche
Sent: Sunday, 2 April 2017 4:55 AM
To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
Subject: [JAWS-Users] Update your Freedom Scientific products before the
W-10 creators update

Hi Jaws Users list, remember to check the versions of all your F S 
products

before the Creators update comes out for W-10.
Go to the following page on Freedom Scientific's website.

http://www.freedomscientific.com/Support/TechnicalSupport/Bulletin/1631

Technical Support: Will JAWS, ZoomText, and MAGic work with the Windows 
10

Creators update coming in April 2017?
The Windows 10 Creators update is the next major release from Microsoft
scheduled to begin rolling out to Windows 10 users in April 2017. During 
the

testing of insider builds for this update, issues were discovered that
impacted ZoomText, JAWS, and MAGic. These issues have been addressed and
updates to these products are now available. It is important that 
customers

who are using Windows 10 and getting all its updates, update our software
prior to the installation of the Creators update. Otherwise, you could
experience problems with the login screen as well as reading and 
navigating

the Start menu.
Make sure you are updated to the following versions.
What versions are ready for the Creators update for W-10.

* ZoomText 11.2.85 - 32-bit and 64-bit

* JAWS 18.0.2530 64-bit English
* JAWS 18.0.2530 32-bit English

* JAWS 17.0.2729 64-bit English
* JAWS 17.0.2729 32-bit English

* JAWS 16.0.4474 64-bit English
* JAWS 16.0.4474 32-bit English

* MAGic 14.0.110 64-bit English
* MAGic 14.0.110 32-bit English

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Owner of the W-10 and Jaws Yahoo group! Smiles.

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http://www.jaws-users.com/help/


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Re: [JAWS-Users] Update your Freedom Scientific products before the W-10 creators update

[Jason White]

Michele Thredgold  wrote:
> How's it going to affect those of us who are about to purchase new laptops?

Make sure you install the latest version of JAWS on the new laptop. 


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Re: [JAWS-Users] Update your Freedom Scientific products before the W-10 creators update

[David Ferrin]

If you don't have windows 10 then you are not effected at all.

-Original Message- 
From: Michele Thredgold

Sent: Tuesday, April 4, 2017 8:36 PM
To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] Update your Freedom Scientific products before the 
W-10 creators update


How's it going to affect those of us who are about to purchase new laptops? 
My JAWS is up-to-date, but I am still running Windows 7 on my current laptop 
because it doesn't possess enough RAM for Windows 10.


Cheers!

Michele

- Original Message -
From: Justin Williams  <justin.willia...@gmail.com>
To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
Date: Monday, 3 April 2017 12:35 am
Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] Update your Freedom Scientific products before the 
W-10 creators update





When is this windows update  coming out?
 Justin

-Original Message-
From: JAWS-Users-List [mailto:jaws-users-list-boun...@jaws-users.com] On
Behalf Of Jim Flusche
Sent: Sunday, April 2, 2017 11:02 AM
To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] Update your Freedom Scientific products before 
the

W-10 creators update

Hi owen, your welcome.


Your humble pinhead!
Owner of the W-10 and Jaws Yahoo group! Smiles.

-Original Message-
From: JAWS-Users-List [mailto:jaws-users-list-boun...@jaws-users.com] On
Behalf Of owen palamountain
Sent: Sunday, April 2, 2017 4:41 AM
To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] Update your Freedom Scientific products before 
the

W-10 creators update

Thanks Mr pinhead.

-Original Message-
From: JAWS-Users-List [mailto:jaws-users-list-boun...@jaws-users.com] On
Behalf Of Jim Flusche
Sent: Sunday, 2 April 2017 4:55 AM
To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
Subject: [JAWS-Users] Update your Freedom Scientific products before the
W-10 creators update

Hi Jaws Users list, remember to check the versions of all your F S 
products

before the Creators update comes out for W-10.
Go to the following page on Freedom Scientific's website.

http://www.freedomscientific.com/Support/TechnicalSupport/Bulletin/1631

Technical Support: Will JAWS, ZoomText, and MAGic work with the Windows 10
Creators update coming in April 2017?
The Windows 10 Creators update is the next major release from Microsoft
scheduled to begin rolling out to Windows 10 users in April 2017. During 
the

testing of insider builds for this update, issues were discovered that
impacted ZoomText, JAWS, and MAGic. These issues have been addressed and
updates to these products are now available. It is important that 
customers

who are using Windows 10 and getting all its updates, update our software
prior to the installation of the Creators update. Otherwise, you could
experience problems with the login screen as well as reading and 
navigating

the Start menu.
Make sure you are updated to the following versions.
What versions are ready for the Creators update for W-10.

* ZoomText 11.2.85 - 32-bit and 64-bit

* JAWS 18.0.2530 64-bit English
* JAWS 18.0.2530 32-bit English

* JAWS 17.0.2729 64-bit English
* JAWS 17.0.2729 32-bit English

* JAWS 16.0.4474 64-bit English
* JAWS 16.0.4474 32-bit English

* MAGic 14.0.110 64-bit English
* MAGic 14.0.110 32-bit English

Your humble pinhead!
Owner of the W-10 and Jaws Yahoo group! Smiles.

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http://www.jaws-users.com/help/


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Re: [JAWS-Users] Update your Freedom Scientific products before the W-10 creators update

[Michele Thredgold]

How's it going to affect those of us who are about to purchase new laptops? My 
JAWS is up-to-date, but I am still running Windows 7 on my current laptop 
because it doesn't possess enough RAM for Windows 10.

Cheers!

Michele

- Original Message -
From: Justin Williams  <justin.willia...@gmail.com>
To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
Date: Monday, 3 April 2017 12:35 am
Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] Update your Freedom Scientific products before the 
W-10 creators update

>
>
> When is this windows update  coming out?
>  Justin
> 
> -Original Message-
> From: JAWS-Users-List [mailto:jaws-users-list-boun...@jaws-users.com] On
> Behalf Of Jim Flusche
> Sent: Sunday, April 2, 2017 11:02 AM
> To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
> Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] Update your Freedom Scientific products before the
> W-10 creators update
> 
> Hi owen, your welcome.
> 
> 
> Your humble pinhead!
> Owner of the W-10 and Jaws Yahoo group! Smiles.
> 
> -Original Message-
> From: JAWS-Users-List [mailto:jaws-users-list-boun...@jaws-users.com] On
> Behalf Of owen palamountain
> Sent: Sunday, April 2, 2017 4:41 AM
> To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
> Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] Update your Freedom Scientific products before the
> W-10 creators update
> 
> Thanks Mr pinhead.
> 
> -Original Message-
> From: JAWS-Users-List [mailto:jaws-users-list-boun...@jaws-users.com] On
> Behalf Of Jim Flusche
> Sent: Sunday, 2 April 2017 4:55 AM
> To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
> Subject: [JAWS-Users] Update your Freedom Scientific products before the
> W-10 creators update
> 
> Hi Jaws Users list, remember to check the versions of all your F S products
> before the Creators update comes out for W-10.
> Go to the following page on Freedom Scientific's website.
> 
> http://www.freedomscientific.com/Support/TechnicalSupport/Bulletin/1631
> 
> Technical Support: Will JAWS, ZoomText, and MAGic work with the Windows 10
> Creators update coming in April 2017?
> The Windows 10 Creators update is the next major release from Microsoft
> scheduled to begin rolling out to Windows 10 users in April 2017. During the
> testing of insider builds for this update, issues were discovered that
> impacted ZoomText, JAWS, and MAGic. These issues have been addressed and
> updates to these products are now available. It is important that customers
> who are using Windows 10 and getting all its updates, update our software
> prior to the installation of the Creators update. Otherwise, you could
> experience problems with the login screen as well as reading and navigating
> the Start menu.
> Make sure you are updated to the following versions.
> What versions are ready for the Creators update for W-10.
> 
> * ZoomText 11.2.85 - 32-bit and 64-bit
> 
> * JAWS 18.0.2530 64-bit English
> * JAWS 18.0.2530 32-bit English
> 
> * JAWS 17.0.2729 64-bit English
> * JAWS 17.0.2729 32-bit English
> 
> * JAWS 16.0.4474 64-bit English
> * JAWS 16.0.4474 32-bit English
> 
> * MAGic 14.0.110 64-bit English
> * MAGic 14.0.110 32-bit English
> 
> Your humble pinhead!
> Owner of the W-10 and Jaws Yahoo group! Smiles.
> 
> For answers to frequently asked questions about this list visit:
> http://www.jaws-users.com/help/
> 
> 
> For answers to frequently asked questions about this list visit:
> http://www.jaws-users.com/help/
> 
> For answers to frequently asked questions about this list visit:
> http://www.jaws-users.com/help/
> 
> 
> For answers to frequently asked questions about this list visit:
> http://www.jaws-users.com/help/

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Re: [JAWS-Users] Update your Freedom Scientific products before the W-10 creators update

[Jim Flusche]

Hi Kathy, this means if you are using a W-10 computer, you need to update all 
the Freedom Scientific products on it before April eleventh. The new creators 
update will start installing on all W-10 computers starting on the eleventh. So 
Jaws 18, is already updated for this Creators update as of the February update 
to Jaws. But if you have Jaws 16 or Jaws 17 installed on your W-10 computer, 
they must be updated before the Creators update to work correctly on your 
machine. I hope this helps explain it to you a little better. Smiles.



Your humble pinhead!
Owner of the W-10 and Jaws Yahoo group! Smiles.

-Original Message-
From: JAWS-Users-List [mailto:jaws-users-list-boun...@jaws-users.com] On Behalf 
Of Kathy Pingstock
Sent: Sunday, April 2, 2017 6:21 PM
To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] Update your Freedom Scientific products before the 
W-10 creators update

Jim

Not to sound stupid but what does this mean?

Kathy

-Original Message-
From: JAWS-Users-List [mailto:jaws-users-list-boun...@jaws-users.com] On Behalf 
Of Jim Flusche
Sent: Sunday, April 2, 2017 11:59 AM
To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] Update your Freedom Scientific products before the
W-10 creators update

The W-10 Creators update is coming out April 11, 2017. Smiles.


Your humble pinhead!
Owner of the W-10 and Jaws Yahoo group! Smiles.

-Original Message-
From: JAWS-Users-List [mailto:jaws-users-list-boun...@jaws-users.com] On Behalf 
Of Justin Williams
Sent: Sunday, April 2, 2017 11:05 AM
To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] Update your Freedom Scientific products before the
W-10 creators update

When is this windows update  coming out?
 Justin

-Original Message-
From: JAWS-Users-List [mailto:jaws-users-list-boun...@jaws-users.com] On Behalf 
Of Jim Flusche
Sent: Sunday, April 2, 2017 11:02 AM
To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] Update your Freedom Scientific products before the
W-10 creators update

Hi owen, your welcome.


Your humble pinhead!
Owner of the W-10 and Jaws Yahoo group! Smiles.

-Original Message-
From: JAWS-Users-List [mailto:jaws-users-list-boun...@jaws-users.com] On Behalf 
Of owen palamountain
Sent: Sunday, April 2, 2017 4:41 AM
To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] Update your Freedom Scientific products before the
W-10 creators update

Thanks Mr pinhead.

-Original Message-
From: JAWS-Users-List [mailto:jaws-users-list-boun...@jaws-users.com] On Behalf 
Of Jim Flusche
Sent: Sunday, 2 April 2017 4:55 AM
To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
Subject: [JAWS-Users] Update your Freedom Scientific products before the
W-10 creators update

Hi Jaws Users list, remember to check the versions of all your F S products 
before the Creators update comes out for W-10.
Go to the following page on Freedom Scientific's website.

http://www.freedomscientific.com/Support/TechnicalSupport/Bulletin/1631

Technical Support: Will JAWS, ZoomText, and MAGic work with the Windows 10 
Creators update coming in April 2017?
The Windows 10 Creators update is the next major release from Microsoft 
scheduled to begin rolling out to Windows 10 users in April 2017. During the 
testing of insider builds for this update, issues were discovered that impacted 
ZoomText, JAWS, and MAGic. These issues have been addressed and updates to 
these products are now available. It is important that customers who are using 
Windows 10 and getting all its updates, update our software prior to the 
installation of the Creators update. Otherwise, you could experience problems 
with the login screen as well as reading and navigating the Start menu.
Make sure you are updated to the following versions.
What versions are ready for the Creators update for W-10.

* ZoomText 11.2.85 - 32-bit and 64-bit

* JAWS 18.0.2530 64-bit English
* JAWS 18.0.2530 32-bit English

* JAWS 17.0.2729 64-bit English
* JAWS 17.0.2729 32-bit English

* JAWS 16.0.4474 64-bit English
* JAWS 16.0.4474 32-bit English

* MAGic 14.0.110 64-bit English
* MAGic 14.0.110 32-bit English

Your humble pinhead!
Owner of the W-10 and Jaws Yahoo group! Smiles.

For answers to frequently asked questions about this list visit:
http://www.jaws-users.com/help/


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Re: [JAWS-Users] Update your Freedom Scientific products before the W-10 creators update

[Kathy Pingstock]

Jim

Not to sound stupid but what does this mean?

Kathy

-Original Message-
From: JAWS-Users-List [mailto:jaws-users-list-boun...@jaws-users.com] On
Behalf Of Jim Flusche
Sent: Sunday, April 2, 2017 11:59 AM
To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] Update your Freedom Scientific products before the
W-10 creators update

The W-10 Creators update is coming out April 11, 2017. Smiles.


Your humble pinhead!
Owner of the W-10 and Jaws Yahoo group! Smiles.

-Original Message-
From: JAWS-Users-List [mailto:jaws-users-list-boun...@jaws-users.com] On
Behalf Of Justin Williams
Sent: Sunday, April 2, 2017 11:05 AM
To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] Update your Freedom Scientific products before the
W-10 creators update

When is this windows update  coming out?
 Justin

-Original Message-
From: JAWS-Users-List [mailto:jaws-users-list-boun...@jaws-users.com] On
Behalf Of Jim Flusche
Sent: Sunday, April 2, 2017 11:02 AM
To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] Update your Freedom Scientific products before the
W-10 creators update

Hi owen, your welcome.


Your humble pinhead!
Owner of the W-10 and Jaws Yahoo group! Smiles.

-Original Message-
From: JAWS-Users-List [mailto:jaws-users-list-boun...@jaws-users.com] On
Behalf Of owen palamountain
Sent: Sunday, April 2, 2017 4:41 AM
To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] Update your Freedom Scientific products before the
W-10 creators update

Thanks Mr pinhead.

-Original Message-
From: JAWS-Users-List [mailto:jaws-users-list-boun...@jaws-users.com] On
Behalf Of Jim Flusche
Sent: Sunday, 2 April 2017 4:55 AM
To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
Subject: [JAWS-Users] Update your Freedom Scientific products before the
W-10 creators update

Hi Jaws Users list, remember to check the versions of all your F S products
before the Creators update comes out for W-10.
Go to the following page on Freedom Scientific's website.

http://www.freedomscientific.com/Support/TechnicalSupport/Bulletin/1631

Technical Support: Will JAWS, ZoomText, and MAGic work with the Windows 10
Creators update coming in April 2017?
The Windows 10 Creators update is the next major release from Microsoft
scheduled to begin rolling out to Windows 10 users in April 2017. During the
testing of insider builds for this update, issues were discovered that
impacted ZoomText, JAWS, and MAGic. These issues have been addressed and
updates to these products are now available. It is important that customers
who are using Windows 10 and getting all its updates, update our software
prior to the installation of the Creators update. Otherwise, you could
experience problems with the login screen as well as reading and navigating
the Start menu.
Make sure you are updated to the following versions.
What versions are ready for the Creators update for W-10.

* ZoomText 11.2.85 - 32-bit and 64-bit

* JAWS 18.0.2530 64-bit English
* JAWS 18.0.2530 32-bit English

* JAWS 17.0.2729 64-bit English
* JAWS 17.0.2729 32-bit English

* JAWS 16.0.4474 64-bit English
* JAWS 16.0.4474 32-bit English

* MAGic 14.0.110 64-bit English
* MAGic 14.0.110 32-bit English

Your humble pinhead!
Owner of the W-10 and Jaws Yahoo group! Smiles.

For answers to frequently asked questions about this list visit:
http://www.jaws-users.com/help/


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Re: [JAWS-Users] Update your Freedom Scientific products before the W-10 creators update

[Jim Flusche]

The W-10 Creators update is coming out April 11, 2017. Smiles.


Your humble pinhead!
Owner of the W-10 and Jaws Yahoo group! Smiles.

-Original Message-
From: JAWS-Users-List [mailto:jaws-users-list-boun...@jaws-users.com] On Behalf 
Of Justin Williams
Sent: Sunday, April 2, 2017 11:05 AM
To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] Update your Freedom Scientific products before the 
W-10 creators update

When is this windows update  coming out?
 Justin

-Original Message-
From: JAWS-Users-List [mailto:jaws-users-list-boun...@jaws-users.com] On Behalf 
Of Jim Flusche
Sent: Sunday, April 2, 2017 11:02 AM
To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] Update your Freedom Scientific products before the
W-10 creators update

Hi owen, your welcome.


Your humble pinhead!
Owner of the W-10 and Jaws Yahoo group! Smiles.

-Original Message-
From: JAWS-Users-List [mailto:jaws-users-list-boun...@jaws-users.com] On Behalf 
Of owen palamountain
Sent: Sunday, April 2, 2017 4:41 AM
To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] Update your Freedom Scientific products before the
W-10 creators update

Thanks Mr pinhead.

-Original Message-
From: JAWS-Users-List [mailto:jaws-users-list-boun...@jaws-users.com] On Behalf 
Of Jim Flusche
Sent: Sunday, 2 April 2017 4:55 AM
To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
Subject: [JAWS-Users] Update your Freedom Scientific products before the
W-10 creators update

Hi Jaws Users list, remember to check the versions of all your F S products 
before the Creators update comes out for W-10.
Go to the following page on Freedom Scientific's website.

http://www.freedomscientific.com/Support/TechnicalSupport/Bulletin/1631

Technical Support: Will JAWS, ZoomText, and MAGic work with the Windows 10 
Creators update coming in April 2017?
The Windows 10 Creators update is the next major release from Microsoft 
scheduled to begin rolling out to Windows 10 users in April 2017. During the 
testing of insider builds for this update, issues were discovered that impacted 
ZoomText, JAWS, and MAGic. These issues have been addressed and updates to 
these products are now available. It is important that customers who are using 
Windows 10 and getting all its updates, update our software prior to the 
installation of the Creators update. Otherwise, you could experience problems 
with the login screen as well as reading and navigating the Start menu.
Make sure you are updated to the following versions.
What versions are ready for the Creators update for W-10.

* ZoomText 11.2.85 - 32-bit and 64-bit

* JAWS 18.0.2530 64-bit English
* JAWS 18.0.2530 32-bit English

* JAWS 17.0.2729 64-bit English
* JAWS 17.0.2729 32-bit English

* JAWS 16.0.4474 64-bit English
* JAWS 16.0.4474 32-bit English

* MAGic 14.0.110 64-bit English
* MAGic 14.0.110 32-bit English

Your humble pinhead!
Owner of the W-10 and Jaws Yahoo group! Smiles.

For answers to frequently asked questions about this list visit:
http://www.jaws-users.com/help/


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Re: [JAWS-Users] Update your Freedom Scientific products before the W-10 creators update

[Joseph Lee]

Hi,
April 11th.
Cheers,
Joseph

-Original Message-
From: JAWS-Users-List [mailto:jaws-users-list-boun...@jaws-users.com] On
Behalf Of Justin Williams
Sent: Sunday, April 2, 2017 8:05 AM
To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] Update your Freedom Scientific products before the
W-10 creators update

When is this windows update  coming out?
 Justin

-Original Message-
From: JAWS-Users-List [mailto:jaws-users-list-boun...@jaws-users.com] On
Behalf Of Jim Flusche
Sent: Sunday, April 2, 2017 11:02 AM
To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] Update your Freedom Scientific products before the
W-10 creators update

Hi owen, your welcome.


Your humble pinhead!
Owner of the W-10 and Jaws Yahoo group! Smiles.

-Original Message-
From: JAWS-Users-List [mailto:jaws-users-list-boun...@jaws-users.com] On
Behalf Of owen palamountain
Sent: Sunday, April 2, 2017 4:41 AM
To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] Update your Freedom Scientific products before the
W-10 creators update

Thanks Mr pinhead.

-Original Message-
From: JAWS-Users-List [mailto:jaws-users-list-boun...@jaws-users.com] On
Behalf Of Jim Flusche
Sent: Sunday, 2 April 2017 4:55 AM
To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
Subject: [JAWS-Users] Update your Freedom Scientific products before the
W-10 creators update

Hi Jaws Users list, remember to check the versions of all your F S products
before the Creators update comes out for W-10.
Go to the following page on Freedom Scientific's website.

http://www.freedomscientific.com/Support/TechnicalSupport/Bulletin/1631

Technical Support: Will JAWS, ZoomText, and MAGic work with the Windows 10
Creators update coming in April 2017?
The Windows 10 Creators update is the next major release from Microsoft
scheduled to begin rolling out to Windows 10 users in April 2017. During the
testing of insider builds for this update, issues were discovered that
impacted ZoomText, JAWS, and MAGic. These issues have been addressed and
updates to these products are now available. It is important that customers
who are using Windows 10 and getting all its updates, update our software
prior to the installation of the Creators update. Otherwise, you could
experience problems with the login screen as well as reading and navigating
the Start menu.
Make sure you are updated to the following versions.
What versions are ready for the Creators update for W-10.

* ZoomText 11.2.85 - 32-bit and 64-bit

* JAWS 18.0.2530 64-bit English
* JAWS 18.0.2530 32-bit English

* JAWS 17.0.2729 64-bit English
* JAWS 17.0.2729 32-bit English

* JAWS 16.0.4474 64-bit English
* JAWS 16.0.4474 32-bit English

* MAGic 14.0.110 64-bit English
* MAGic 14.0.110 32-bit English

Your humble pinhead!
Owner of the W-10 and Jaws Yahoo group! Smiles.

For answers to frequently asked questions about this list visit:
http://www.jaws-users.com/help/


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http://www.jaws-users.com/help/

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Re: [JAWS-Users] Update your Freedom Scientific products before the W-10 creators update

[Justin Williams]

When is this windows update  coming out?
 Justin

-Original Message-
From: JAWS-Users-List [mailto:jaws-users-list-boun...@jaws-users.com] On
Behalf Of Jim Flusche
Sent: Sunday, April 2, 2017 11:02 AM
To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] Update your Freedom Scientific products before the
W-10 creators update

Hi owen, your welcome.


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-Original Message-
From: JAWS-Users-List [mailto:jaws-users-list-boun...@jaws-users.com] On
Behalf Of owen palamountain
Sent: Sunday, April 2, 2017 4:41 AM
To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] Update your Freedom Scientific products before the
W-10 creators update

Thanks Mr pinhead.

-Original Message-
From: JAWS-Users-List [mailto:jaws-users-list-boun...@jaws-users.com] On
Behalf Of Jim Flusche
Sent: Sunday, 2 April 2017 4:55 AM
To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
Subject: [JAWS-Users] Update your Freedom Scientific products before the
W-10 creators update

Hi Jaws Users list, remember to check the versions of all your F S products
before the Creators update comes out for W-10.
Go to the following page on Freedom Scientific's website.

http://www.freedomscientific.com/Support/TechnicalSupport/Bulletin/1631

Technical Support: Will JAWS, ZoomText, and MAGic work with the Windows 10
Creators update coming in April 2017?
The Windows 10 Creators update is the next major release from Microsoft
scheduled to begin rolling out to Windows 10 users in April 2017. During the
testing of insider builds for this update, issues were discovered that
impacted ZoomText, JAWS, and MAGic. These issues have been addressed and
updates to these products are now available. It is important that customers
who are using Windows 10 and getting all its updates, update our software
prior to the installation of the Creators update. Otherwise, you could
experience problems with the login screen as well as reading and navigating
the Start menu.
Make sure you are updated to the following versions.
What versions are ready for the Creators update for W-10.

* ZoomText 11.2.85 - 32-bit and 64-bit

* JAWS 18.0.2530 64-bit English
* JAWS 18.0.2530 32-bit English

* JAWS 17.0.2729 64-bit English
* JAWS 17.0.2729 32-bit English

* JAWS 16.0.4474 64-bit English
* JAWS 16.0.4474 32-bit English

* MAGic 14.0.110 64-bit English
* MAGic 14.0.110 32-bit English

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Re: [JAWS-Users] Update your Freedom Scientific products before the W-10 creators update

[Jim Flusche]

Hi owen, your welcome.


Your humble pinhead!
Owner of the W-10 and Jaws Yahoo group! Smiles.

-Original Message-
From: JAWS-Users-List [mailto:jaws-users-list-boun...@jaws-users.com] On Behalf 
Of owen palamountain
Sent: Sunday, April 2, 2017 4:41 AM
To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] Update your Freedom Scientific products before the 
W-10 creators update

Thanks Mr pinhead.

-Original Message-
From: JAWS-Users-List [mailto:jaws-users-list-boun...@jaws-users.com] On Behalf 
Of Jim Flusche
Sent: Sunday, 2 April 2017 4:55 AM
To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
Subject: [JAWS-Users] Update your Freedom Scientific products before the
W-10 creators update

Hi Jaws Users list, remember to check the versions of all your F S products 
before the Creators update comes out for W-10.
Go to the following page on Freedom Scientific's website.

http://www.freedomscientific.com/Support/TechnicalSupport/Bulletin/1631

Technical Support: Will JAWS, ZoomText, and MAGic work with the Windows 10 
Creators update coming in April 2017?
The Windows 10 Creators update is the next major release from Microsoft 
scheduled to begin rolling out to Windows 10 users in April 2017. During the 
testing of insider builds for this update, issues were discovered that impacted 
ZoomText, JAWS, and MAGic. These issues have been addressed and updates to 
these products are now available. It is important that customers who are using 
Windows 10 and getting all its updates, update our software prior to the 
installation of the Creators update. Otherwise, you could experience problems 
with the login screen as well as reading and navigating the Start menu.
Make sure you are updated to the following versions.
What versions are ready for the Creators update for W-10.

* ZoomText 11.2.85 - 32-bit and 64-bit

* JAWS 18.0.2530 64-bit English
* JAWS 18.0.2530 32-bit English

* JAWS 17.0.2729 64-bit English
* JAWS 17.0.2729 32-bit English

* JAWS 16.0.4474 64-bit English
* JAWS 16.0.4474 32-bit English

* MAGic 14.0.110 64-bit English
* MAGic 14.0.110 32-bit English

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Re: [JAWS-Users] Update your Freedom Scientific products before the W-10 creators update

[owen palamountain]

Thanks Mr pinhead.

-Original Message-
From: JAWS-Users-List [mailto:jaws-users-list-boun...@jaws-users.com] On
Behalf Of Jim Flusche
Sent: Sunday, 2 April 2017 4:55 AM
To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
Subject: [JAWS-Users] Update your Freedom Scientific products before the
W-10 creators update

Hi Jaws Users list, remember to check the versions of all your F S products
before the Creators update comes out for W-10.
Go to the following page on Freedom Scientific's website.

http://www.freedomscientific.com/Support/TechnicalSupport/Bulletin/1631

Technical Support: Will JAWS, ZoomText, and MAGic work with the Windows 10
Creators update coming in April 2017?
The Windows 10 Creators update is the next major release from Microsoft
scheduled to begin rolling out to Windows 10 users in April 2017. During the
testing of insider builds for this update, issues were discovered that
impacted ZoomText, JAWS, and MAGic. These issues have been addressed and
updates to these products are now available. It is important that customers
who are using Windows 10 and getting all its updates, update our software
prior to the installation of the Creators update. Otherwise, you could
experience problems with the login screen as well as reading and navigating
the Start menu.
Make sure you are updated to the following versions.
What versions are ready for the Creators update for W-10.

* ZoomText 11.2.85 - 32-bit and 64-bit

* JAWS 18.0.2530 64-bit English
* JAWS 18.0.2530 32-bit English

* JAWS 17.0.2729 64-bit English
* JAWS 17.0.2729 32-bit English

* JAWS 16.0.4474 64-bit English
* JAWS 16.0.4474 32-bit English

* MAGic 14.0.110 64-bit English
* MAGic 14.0.110 32-bit English

Your humble pinhead!
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Re: [JAWS-Users] update now available to speakDropbox fixing win10 anniversary update bugs

[Nicole Valicia Thompson-Andrews]

I found the update sommewhere on my laptop. No way to find the updator
on my desktop. There are Speak dropbox icons.

On 9/8/16, Nicole Valicia Thompson-Andrews <goldyemo...@gmail.com> wrote:
> Speak Dropbox updated, but I can't turn on the notifications on my
> desktop. It doesn't read what file has been changed as it does on my
> laptop.
>
> On 8/11/16, Nicole Valicia Thompson-Andrews <goldyemo...@gmail.com> wrote:
>> I can't get Speak dropbox to close, nor can I find the version menu.
>> Found it fine on my desktop. No go for the laptop.
>>
>> On 8/11/16, David Ferrin <ow...@jaws-users.com> wrote:
>>> I agree that it is a nice bit of goods, thank you from me as well.
>>>
>>> -Original Message-
>>> From: Adam Morris
>>> Sent: Thursday, August 11, 2016 9:22 PM
>>> To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
>>> Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] update now available to speakDropbox fixing
>>> win10
>>>
>>> anniversary update bugs
>>>
>>> Hi Aaron and all,
>>>
>>>
>>> I'd like to thank Aaron publically for his fast response to the dropbox
>>> issues especially since the program is free.
>>>
>>> Keep up the great work!
>>>
>>>
>>> On 12/08/16 08:42, valiant8086 wrote:
>>>> Hi.
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> After I got over my major headache today, I got messing around with
>>>> speakDropbox again. I can't get it to reproduce the issue I had before
>>>> that I couldn't get it to click the dropbox icon when I double pressed
>>>> the
>>>>
>>>> respective keystroke. I have no idea why it works now because I've
>>>> stripped out all the related test code until it's back the way it is in
>>>> version 15, so until I can reproduce that issue, I'm calling this
>>>> release
>>>>
>>>> ready. So update your speakDropbox's, even those running on windows 10
>>>> versions prior to Anniversary update will benefit, since I finally
>>>> changed
>>>>
>>>> the alt+win+m keystroke that opens speakDropbox's own menu to
>>>> shift+alt+win+m instead, so that it works in windows 10 where alt+win+m
>>>> just doesn't work at all.
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> If you need a fresh download or if you want to learn what speakDropbox
>>>> is
>>>>
>>>> if you don't know what I'm talking about, the link to the speakDropbox
>>>> downloads page is
>>>>
>>>> http://valiant8086.com/applications/speakDropbox/
>>>>
>>>> the purpose of speakDropbox is explained there.
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> Of course, as long as you don't have the crazy issue I just had while
>>>> trying to update my installed copy, you should be able to get it to
>>>> update
>>>>
>>>> itself from the version menu item in speakDropbox's own tray.
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> Btw, I've received multiple requests to make a speakOneDrive. I intend
>>>> to
>>>>
>>>> try, but I think I'll extend the functionality of speakDropbox and
>>>> rename
>>>>
>>>> it so that it can speak various icons including One Drive. This would
>>>> of
>>>> course not use any more cpu time than it already does if not configured
>>>> to
>>>>
>>>> support one drive or anything else besides dropbox, so let's not be
>>>> concerned that such a change will result in increased cpu consumption
>>>> if
>>>> you just want it to work the way speakDropbox currently does. Any
>>>> suggestions on a name for such a creature? Also, any further requests
>>>> for
>>>>
>>>> tray icons to support? Google drive is not applicable as it doesn't
>>>> actually display any useful status.
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> Just to be safe, I'm not positive I'm going to do anything yet, but I
>>>> am
>>>> definitely intrigued. Just please don't get too excited in case I don't
>>>> get my lazy butt in gear and make it happen.
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> Good luck happy dropboxing and so on!
>>>
>>> --
>>>
>>>
>>> Adam Morris
>>>
>>> email:
>>> a...@damorris.com
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
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>>>
>>>
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>>
>>
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>
>
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Re: [JAWS-Users] update to the tips and tricks page

[Dialup]

Thanks David.
You can't have enough run commands I always say, especially when 
something goes wrong with windoze.

Glen


***


On 26-Oct-2016 10:01 pm, David Ferrin wrote:

I recently came into possession of a rather extensive list of run commands for 
Windows 7, 8.1, and 10 so I just posted it on the basics page under the Windows 
heading.

FYI it is a PDF file contained in a zip archive so it will download instead of 
opening online which to me is sometimes an inconvenience.

I still make modifications from time to time up there, enjoy if you are so 
inclined.
David Ferrin
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Re: [JAWS-Users] update now available to speakDropbox fixing win10 anniversary update bugs

[Nicole Valicia Thompson-Andrews]

Speak Dropbox updated, but I can't turn on the notifications on my
desktop. It doesn't read what file has been changed as it does on my
laptop.

On 8/11/16, Nicole Valicia Thompson-Andrews <goldyemo...@gmail.com> wrote:
> I can't get Speak dropbox to close, nor can I find the version menu.
> Found it fine on my desktop. No go for the laptop.
>
> On 8/11/16, David Ferrin <ow...@jaws-users.com> wrote:
>> I agree that it is a nice bit of goods, thank you from me as well.
>>
>> -Original Message-
>> From: Adam Morris
>> Sent: Thursday, August 11, 2016 9:22 PM
>> To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
>> Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] update now available to speakDropbox fixing
>> win10
>>
>> anniversary update bugs
>>
>> Hi Aaron and all,
>>
>>
>> I'd like to thank Aaron publically for his fast response to the dropbox
>> issues especially since the program is free.
>>
>> Keep up the great work!
>>
>>
>> On 12/08/16 08:42, valiant8086 wrote:
>>> Hi.
>>>
>>>
>>> After I got over my major headache today, I got messing around with
>>> speakDropbox again. I can't get it to reproduce the issue I had before
>>> that I couldn't get it to click the dropbox icon when I double pressed
>>> the
>>>
>>> respective keystroke. I have no idea why it works now because I've
>>> stripped out all the related test code until it's back the way it is in
>>> version 15, so until I can reproduce that issue, I'm calling this
>>> release
>>>
>>> ready. So update your speakDropbox's, even those running on windows 10
>>> versions prior to Anniversary update will benefit, since I finally
>>> changed
>>>
>>> the alt+win+m keystroke that opens speakDropbox's own menu to
>>> shift+alt+win+m instead, so that it works in windows 10 where alt+win+m
>>> just doesn't work at all.
>>>
>>>
>>> If you need a fresh download or if you want to learn what speakDropbox
>>> is
>>>
>>> if you don't know what I'm talking about, the link to the speakDropbox
>>> downloads page is
>>>
>>> http://valiant8086.com/applications/speakDropbox/
>>>
>>> the purpose of speakDropbox is explained there.
>>>
>>>
>>> Of course, as long as you don't have the crazy issue I just had while
>>> trying to update my installed copy, you should be able to get it to
>>> update
>>>
>>> itself from the version menu item in speakDropbox's own tray.
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> Btw, I've received multiple requests to make a speakOneDrive. I intend
>>> to
>>>
>>> try, but I think I'll extend the functionality of speakDropbox and
>>> rename
>>>
>>> it so that it can speak various icons including One Drive. This would of
>>> course not use any more cpu time than it already does if not configured
>>> to
>>>
>>> support one drive or anything else besides dropbox, so let's not be
>>> concerned that such a change will result in increased cpu consumption if
>>> you just want it to work the way speakDropbox currently does. Any
>>> suggestions on a name for such a creature? Also, any further requests
>>> for
>>>
>>> tray icons to support? Google drive is not applicable as it doesn't
>>> actually display any useful status.
>>>
>>>
>>> Just to be safe, I'm not positive I'm going to do anything yet, but I am
>>> definitely intrigued. Just please don't get too excited in case I don't
>>> get my lazy butt in gear and make it happen.
>>>
>>>
>>> Good luck happy dropboxing and so on!
>>
>> --
>>
>>
>> Adam Morris
>>
>> email:
>> a...@damorris.com
>>
>>
>>
>>
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>> http://www.jaws-users.com/help/
>>
>>
>>
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>>
>
>
> --
>
> Pen Name
> Mellissa Green
>
> Founder of A Blue Green Universe
> website
> www.abluegreenuniverse.com
> twitter
> twitter.com/@abluegreenunivs
> pinterest
> pinterest.com/abluegreen
>


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Re: [JAWS-Users] update now available to speakDropbox fixingwin10 anniversary update bugs

[Justin Williams]

Thanks Mike.
 Justin

-Original Message-
From: JAWS-Users-List [mailto:jaws-users-list-boun...@jaws-users.com] On
Behalf Of Mike B.
Sent: Thursday, August 11, 2016 11:29 PM
To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] update now available to speakDropbox fixingwin10
anniversary update bugs

Hi Justin,

Hope the following explains it well enough:
Welcome!
Welcome and thanks for trying out SpeakDropbox. For other applications that
I've written see my web site at http://valiant8086.com

What is this thing anyway?
SpeakDropbox is a lightweight application that runs on the system tray and
looks for a Dropbox  icon in said tray. If found, it watches the tool tip
text for that icon and can automatically read it out loud or play sounds
when there is a change to said tool tip text. As a result, SpeakDropbox is
able to announce out loud or produce alert noises when the Dropbox app is up
to something like downloading a file, uploading a file, indexing,
connecting, downloading file list, etc. 
Additionally, it allows for manual checking of said tool tip from anywhere
with a configurable keystroke (especially useful when using sounds only and
wanting to find out what Dropbox is up to when you hear one of the sounds),
and a double press provides an easy way to open the Dropbox menu from
anywhere without the need of using "system tray listing" functionality in
your screen reader or simulating a click on the Dropbox tray icon.
SpeakDropbox will probably be most useful for people who are blind or
visually impaired and using a Screen Reader like NVDA (Non Visual Desktop
Access), as it uses the Screen Reader to provide the speech output. however,
it will speak via the Microsoft Speech API 5 or later using the computer's
built in voice if there is no Screen Reader that it supports present. In
other words, if you're not blind, or visually impaired, or if you have a
screen reader that SpeakDropbox does not support, you may still have use for
this application.

Requirements
list of 3 items
. Same as Dropbox for windows itself
. Dropbox, of course
click here to visit their web site
. if using with screen reader, SpeakDropbox supports the following list of 4
items nesting level 1 1. JAWS, not sure how far back, 10 at least 2.
Window-Eyes, no clue how far back, I'm guessing earlier than 7.0 3. System
Access, to my knowledge it's not really possible to be running an old system
access so how far back is not applicable 4. Dolphin Supernova and Hal, no
clue what version, most likely it'll work though is my guess list end
nesting level 1 The reason I'm not totally sure about how far back these go
is I didn't write the code I use to access the screen readers and the
documentation for that doesn't tell me. If you're using something ancient
and you wonder, try it and see if it works.

Installation
Run the installer. It will want administrator privileges, so if you have
user account control turned on, the UAC prompt will come up. Follow the
installation wizard to choose where to install it and where to put the start
menu shortcuts and whether you want SpeakDropbox to start automatically each
time your computer is started. the installer will give you a chance to check
all the settings made. If all is well, hit install. Installation should take
about
10
seconds. On the last page there is the opportunity to choose whether to
start SpeakDropbox immediately, view documentation and view the change log
to see what's new.

how it works
SpeakDropbox will hang out in your system tray and look for a Dropbox icon. 
if it can find one, it will watch for that icon to change it's tool tip. 
When
SpeakDropbox detects a change to the Dropbox icon, it will automatically
read out what the tool tip now says, after stripping some of the information
away so as not to be rattling on about transfer rates and the like as that
every time the speed changes which, for most people, is pretty much
continuously.
It can also play a non obtrusive sound to alert you when something is
happening, either in addition to or alternatively to the spoken output. 
These can
both be disabled in the tray menu, enabling for use of SpeakDropbox to have
quick read outs of the Dropbox icon only when desired, by pressing the
keyboard shortcut, and having the ability to open the Dropbox menu and
Dropbox folder but not having to put up with continuous Dropbox status
updates. If it can't find a Dropbox tray icon, it will announce "No Dropbox
Icon found". It should be able to pick up the icon automatically if you
start Dropbox after already having SpeakDropbox running. Also it should be
able to pick it up again if you have to exit and restart Dropbox and you
leave SpeakDropbox running. You can click or press space or enter on the
SpeakDropbox icon in the tray to bring up a menu of options that will allow
you to make SpeakDropbox:
list of 4 items nesting level 1
. test the speech output
. toggle settings, like whether to Automatically speak or pla

Re: [JAWS-Users] update now available to speakDropbox fixing win10 anniversary update bugs

[valiant8086]

Hi.


My first guess is that it's right about the setup files being corrupted. 
Can you try redownloading again? If you manually run the installer, 
you'll need to manually close speakDropbox before it can install. To do 
that hit the context key on speakDropbox in the system tray and choose 
exit, or Assuming the screen reader is JAWS, insert+f11, arrow down to 
speakDropbox, tab once and hit space on right single click, then up 
arrow to exit. If you tried self updating by hitting enter on the 
speakDropbox version in the speakDropbox tray menu, you might be able to 
try again by just hitting that again, I'm not sure if it would 
redownload it or use the existing download.



The only other possibility that comes to mind could be some kind of 
antimalware application is thinking that speakDropbox is a virus or 
something along that line and modifying the installer in some way 
without making it obvious to the user what's going on.



http://valiant8086.com/applications/speakDropbox



Cheers, Aaron Spears, general Partner - Valiant Galaxy Associates 
Developing "very good audiogames" for the blind community 
http://valiantGalaxy.com Sent with Thunderbird 38.5.0 portable

On 8/12/2016 7:16 AM, patti wrote:

Aaron I did the update on my laptop, and I got this message.
I'm running windows 10, Jaws 17, on a 32 bit computer.
What do I need to do?
I just updated on my 64 bit desktop, and it went ok. Why didn't it work on
my laptop?
Patti

Error
The setup files are corrupted. Please obtain a new copy of the
program.
OK

Hi.


After I got over my major headache today, I got messing around with
speakDropbox again. I can't get it to reproduce the issue I had before that
I couldn't get it to click the dropbox icon when I double pressed the
respective keystroke. I have no idea why it works now because I've stripped
out all the related test code until it's back the way it is in version 15,
so until I can reproduce that issue, I'm calling this release ready. So
update your speakDropbox's, even those running on windows 10 versions prior
to Anniversary update will benefit, since I finally changed the alt+win+m
keystroke that opens speakDropbox's own menu to shift+alt+win+m instead, so
that it works in windows 10 where
alt+win+m just doesn't work at all.


If you need a fresh download or if you want to learn what speakDropbox is if
you don't know what I'm talking about, the link to the speakDropbox
downloads page is

http://valiant8086.com/applications/speakDropbox/

the purpose of speakDropbox is explained there.


Of course, as long as you don't have the crazy issue I just had while trying
to update my installed copy, you should be able to get it to update itself
from the version menu item in speakDropbox's own tray.



Btw, I've received multiple requests to make a speakOneDrive. I intend to
try, but I think I'll extend the functionality of speakDropbox and rename it
so that it can speak various icons including One Drive. This would of course
not use any more cpu time than it already does if not configured to support
one drive or anything else besides dropbox, so let's not be concerned that
such a change will result in increased cpu consumption if you just want it
to work the way speakDropbox currently does. Any suggestions on a name for
such a creature? Also, any further requests for tray icons to support?
Google drive is not applicable as it doesn't actually display any useful
status.


Just to be safe, I'm not positive I'm going to do anything yet, but I am
definitely intrigued. Just please don't get too excited in case I don't get
my lazy butt in gear and make it happen.


Good luck happy dropboxing and so on!
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"very good audiogames" for the blind community http://valiantGalaxy.com Sent
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Re: [JAWS-Users] update now available to speakDropbox fixing win10 anniversary update bugs

[patti]

Aaron I did the update on my laptop, and I got this message.
I'm running windows 10, Jaws 17, on a 32 bit computer.
What do I need to do?
I just updated on my 64 bit desktop, and it went ok. Why didn't it work on
my laptop?
Patti

Error
The setup files are corrupted. Please obtain a new copy of the 
program.
OK

Hi.


After I got over my major headache today, I got messing around with
speakDropbox again. I can't get it to reproduce the issue I had before that
I couldn't get it to click the dropbox icon when I double pressed the
respective keystroke. I have no idea why it works now because I've stripped
out all the related test code until it's back the way it is in version 15,
so until I can reproduce that issue, I'm calling this release ready. So
update your speakDropbox's, even those running on windows 10 versions prior
to Anniversary update will benefit, since I finally changed the alt+win+m
keystroke that opens speakDropbox's own menu to shift+alt+win+m instead, so
that it works in windows 10 where 
alt+win+m just doesn't work at all.


If you need a fresh download or if you want to learn what speakDropbox is if
you don't know what I'm talking about, the link to the speakDropbox
downloads page is

http://valiant8086.com/applications/speakDropbox/

the purpose of speakDropbox is explained there.


Of course, as long as you don't have the crazy issue I just had while trying
to update my installed copy, you should be able to get it to update itself
from the version menu item in speakDropbox's own tray.



Btw, I've received multiple requests to make a speakOneDrive. I intend to
try, but I think I'll extend the functionality of speakDropbox and rename it
so that it can speak various icons including One Drive. This would of course
not use any more cpu time than it already does if not configured to support
one drive or anything else besides dropbox, so let's not be concerned that
such a change will result in increased cpu consumption if you just want it
to work the way speakDropbox currently does. Any suggestions on a name for
such a creature? Also, any further requests for tray icons to support?
Google drive is not applicable as it doesn't actually display any useful
status.


Just to be safe, I'm not positive I'm going to do anything yet, but I am
definitely intrigued. Just please don't get too excited in case I don't get
my lazy butt in gear and make it happen.


Good luck happy dropboxing and so on!
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"very good audiogames" for the blind community http://valiantGalaxy.com Sent
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Re: [JAWS-Users] update now available to speakDropbox fixing win10 anniversary update bugs

[valiant8086]

Hi.


Welcome to my world. That happened to me too. Maybe restarting the 
computer will work. I ended up finding the speakDropbox context menu on 
my touch screen, because it wouldn't put keyboard focus in the window, 
which so far as I know is no fault of speakDropbox. When you hit the 
context key on speakDropbox or do what ever it takes to activate the 
menu, the menu may open but doesn't gain keyboard focus for some odd 
reason, there's no way with the keyboard so far as I can find to focus 
it, and once it is open speakDropbox is stuck, it locks up when that 
menu is open. So yeah, there may be tricks to get it to happen but just 
a computer restart might get it working long enough to update.



By the way, if you're updating it with the downloaded installer, you 
could kill speakDropbox from task manager in order to be able to get the 
installer to run, that should work fine.





Cheers, Aaron Spears, general Partner - Valiant Galaxy Associates 
Developing "very good audiogames" for the blind community 
http://valiantGalaxy.com Sent with Thunderbird 38.5.0 portable

On 8/11/2016 9:56 PM, Nicole Valicia Thompson-Andrews wrote:

I can't get Speak dropbox to close, nor can I find the version menu.
Found it fine on my desktop. No go for the laptop.

On 8/11/16, David Ferrin <ow...@jaws-users.com> wrote:

I agree that it is a nice bit of goods, thank you from me as well.

-Original Message-
From: Adam Morris
Sent: Thursday, August 11, 2016 9:22 PM
To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] update now available to speakDropbox fixing win10

anniversary update bugs

Hi Aaron and all,


I'd like to thank Aaron publically for his fast response to the dropbox
issues especially since the program is free.

Keep up the great work!


On 12/08/16 08:42, valiant8086 wrote:

Hi.


After I got over my major headache today, I got messing around with
speakDropbox again. I can't get it to reproduce the issue I had before
that I couldn't get it to click the dropbox icon when I double pressed the

respective keystroke. I have no idea why it works now because I've
stripped out all the related test code until it's back the way it is in
version 15, so until I can reproduce that issue, I'm calling this release

ready. So update your speakDropbox's, even those running on windows 10
versions prior to Anniversary update will benefit, since I finally changed

the alt+win+m keystroke that opens speakDropbox's own menu to
shift+alt+win+m instead, so that it works in windows 10 where alt+win+m
just doesn't work at all.


If you need a fresh download or if you want to learn what speakDropbox is

if you don't know what I'm talking about, the link to the speakDropbox
downloads page is

http://valiant8086.com/applications/speakDropbox/

the purpose of speakDropbox is explained there.


Of course, as long as you don't have the crazy issue I just had while
trying to update my installed copy, you should be able to get it to update

itself from the version menu item in speakDropbox's own tray.



Btw, I've received multiple requests to make a speakOneDrive. I intend to

try, but I think I'll extend the functionality of speakDropbox and rename

it so that it can speak various icons including One Drive. This would of
course not use any more cpu time than it already does if not configured to

support one drive or anything else besides dropbox, so let's not be
concerned that such a change will result in increased cpu consumption if
you just want it to work the way speakDropbox currently does. Any
suggestions on a name for such a creature? Also, any further requests for

tray icons to support? Google drive is not applicable as it doesn't
actually display any useful status.


Just to be safe, I'm not positive I'm going to do anything yet, but I am
definitely intrigued. Just please don't get too excited in case I don't
get my lazy butt in gear and make it happen.


Good luck happy dropboxing and so on!

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Re: [JAWS-Users] update now available to speakDropbox fixingwin10 anniversary update bugs

[valiant8086]

his
when
I'm sitting on the desktop.

4. It keeps reading the wrong icon, either automatically or when pressing
the keyboard shortcut.
This can happen if the Dropbox icon gets shifted to the right somehow in the
tray. To fix, go to the SpeakDropbox menu on the tray and click or press
space
or enter on it to bring up the menu then choose "exit". Then restart
SpeakDropbox by activating the shortcut in the start menu (by default
programGroup/valiant8086/SpeakDropbox/Launch
SpeakDropbox). don't forget in windows Vista and up you can just type
something like speakd into the start menu search box of the start menu or
screen
and launch SpeakDropbox should be one of the search results. This is the
best solution on windows 8 and 8.1. As of SpeakDropbox version 4 this
probably
won't ever happen.
list end nesting level 1
For other problems, try restarting SpeakDropbox and, if that doesn't work,
restart Dropbox itself too. If still no luck, restart the whole computer
and,
if that fails, let me know what's going on and to the best of your ability
throw in what caused or lead up to the problem for good measure please.

Disclaimer
SpeakDropbox nor the developer (me) are in any way affiliated with Dropbox.
The developer uses Dropbox heavily and created SpeakDropbox mainly for
himself
to gain a little nicer access to some of the nifty features of the Dropbox
client application on Windows OS.

contacting me
If you have an issue with SpeakDropbox or a suggestion or any other comment,
my email is
valiant8...@gmail.com.
I can't really offer support for Dropbox itself, so you may get no response
to questions about how to share folders with others and general dropboxy
things
like that.
list end

Take care.
Mike
Sent from my iBarstool.  Go Dodgers!
- Original Message -
From: Justin Williams
To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
Sent: Thursday, August 11, 2016 7:51 PM
Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] update now available to speakDropbox fixingwin10
anniversary update bugs


What is the difference between dropbox and speak dropbox?
  Justin

-Original Message-
From: JAWS-Users-List [mailto:jaws-users-list-boun...@jaws-users.com] On
Behalf Of David Ferrin
Sent: Thursday, August 11, 2016 9:53 PM
To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] update now available to speakDropbox fixing win10
anniversary update bugs

I agree that it is a nice bit of goods, thank you from me as well.

-Original Message-
From: Adam Morris
Sent: Thursday, August 11, 2016 9:22 PM
To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] update now available to speakDropbox fixing win10
anniversary update bugs

Hi Aaron and all,


I'd like to thank Aaron publically for his fast response to the dropbox
issues especially since the program is free.

Keep up the great work!


On 12/08/16 08:42, valiant8086 wrote:

Hi.


After I got over my major headache today, I got messing around with
speakDropbox again. I can't get it to reproduce the issue I had before
that I couldn't get it to click the dropbox icon when I double pressed
the respective keystroke. I have no idea why it works now because I've
stripped out all the related test code until it's back the way it is
in version 15, so until I can reproduce that issue, I'm calling this
release ready. So update your speakDropbox's, even those running on
windows 10 versions prior to Anniversary update will benefit, since I
finally changed the alt+win+m keystroke that opens speakDropbox's own
menu to
shift+alt+win+m instead, so that it works in windows 10 where
shift+alt+win+alt+win+m
just doesn't work at all.


If you need a fresh download or if you want to learn what speakDropbox
is if you don't know what I'm talking about, the link to the
speakDropbox downloads page is

http://valiant8086.com/applications/speakDropbox/

the purpose of speakDropbox is explained there.


Of course, as long as you don't have the crazy issue I just had while
trying to update my installed copy, you should be able to get it to
update itself from the version menu item in speakDropbox's own tray.



Btw, I've received multiple requests to make a speakOneDrive. I intend
to try, but I think I'll extend the functionality of speakDropbox and
rename it so that it can speak various icons including One Drive. This
would of course not use any more cpu time than it already does if not
configured to support one drive or anything else besides dropbox, so
let's not be concerned that such a change will result in increased cpu
consumption if you just want it to work the way speakDropbox currently
does. Any suggestions on a name for such a creature? Also, any further
requests for tray icons to support? Google drive is not applicable as
it doesn't actually display any useful status.


Just to be safe, I'm not positive I'm going to do anything yet, but I
am definitely intrigued. Just please don't get too excited in case I
don't get my lazy butt in gear and make it happen.


Good luck happy dropboxing and so on!



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Re: [JAWS-Users] update now available to speakDropbox fixingwin10 anniversary update bugs

[Mike B.]

e
or enter on it to bring up the menu then choose "exit". Then restart 
SpeakDropbox by activating the shortcut in the start menu (by default 
programGroup/valiant8086/SpeakDropbox/Launch
SpeakDropbox). don't forget in windows Vista and up you can just type 
something like speakd into the start menu search box of the start menu or 
screen
and launch SpeakDropbox should be one of the search results. This is the 
best solution on windows 8 and 8.1. As of SpeakDropbox version 4 this 
probably
won't ever happen.
list end nesting level 1
For other problems, try restarting SpeakDropbox and, if that doesn't work, 
restart Dropbox itself too. If still no luck, restart the whole computer 
and,
if that fails, let me know what's going on and to the best of your ability 
throw in what caused or lead up to the problem for good measure please.

Disclaimer
SpeakDropbox nor the developer (me) are in any way affiliated with Dropbox. 
The developer uses Dropbox heavily and created SpeakDropbox mainly for 
himself
to gain a little nicer access to some of the nifty features of the Dropbox 
client application on Windows OS.

contacting me
If you have an issue with SpeakDropbox or a suggestion or any other comment, 
my email is
valiant8...@gmail.com.
I can't really offer support for Dropbox itself, so you may get no response 
to questions about how to share folders with others and general dropboxy 
things
like that.
list end

Take care.
Mike
Sent from my iBarstool.  Go Dodgers!
- Original Message - 
From: Justin Williams
To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
Sent: Thursday, August 11, 2016 7:51 PM
Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] update now available to speakDropbox fixingwin10 
anniversary update bugs


What is the difference between dropbox and speak dropbox?
 Justin

-Original Message-
From: JAWS-Users-List [mailto:jaws-users-list-boun...@jaws-users.com] On
Behalf Of David Ferrin
Sent: Thursday, August 11, 2016 9:53 PM
To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] update now available to speakDropbox fixing win10
anniversary update bugs

I agree that it is a nice bit of goods, thank you from me as well.

-Original Message-
From: Adam Morris
Sent: Thursday, August 11, 2016 9:22 PM
To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] update now available to speakDropbox fixing win10
anniversary update bugs

Hi Aaron and all,


I'd like to thank Aaron publically for his fast response to the dropbox
issues especially since the program is free.

Keep up the great work!


On 12/08/16 08:42, valiant8086 wrote:
> Hi.
>
>
> After I got over my major headache today, I got messing around with
> speakDropbox again. I can't get it to reproduce the issue I had before
> that I couldn't get it to click the dropbox icon when I double pressed
> the respective keystroke. I have no idea why it works now because I've
> stripped out all the related test code until it's back the way it is
> in version 15, so until I can reproduce that issue, I'm calling this
> release ready. So update your speakDropbox's, even those running on
> windows 10 versions prior to Anniversary update will benefit, since I
> finally changed the alt+win+m keystroke that opens speakDropbox's own
> menu to
> shift+alt+win+m instead, so that it works in windows 10 where
> shift+alt+win+alt+win+m
> just doesn't work at all.
>
>
> If you need a fresh download or if you want to learn what speakDropbox
> is if you don't know what I'm talking about, the link to the
> speakDropbox downloads page is
>
> http://valiant8086.com/applications/speakDropbox/
>
> the purpose of speakDropbox is explained there.
>
>
> Of course, as long as you don't have the crazy issue I just had while
> trying to update my installed copy, you should be able to get it to
> update itself from the version menu item in speakDropbox's own tray.
>
>
>
> Btw, I've received multiple requests to make a speakOneDrive. I intend
> to try, but I think I'll extend the functionality of speakDropbox and
> rename it so that it can speak various icons including One Drive. This
> would of course not use any more cpu time than it already does if not
> configured to support one drive or anything else besides dropbox, so
> let's not be concerned that such a change will result in increased cpu
> consumption if you just want it to work the way speakDropbox currently
> does. Any suggestions on a name for such a creature? Also, any further
> requests for tray icons to support? Google drive is not applicable as
> it doesn't actually display any useful status.
>
>
> Just to be safe, I'm not positive I'm going to do anything yet, but I
> am definitely intrigued. Just please don't get too excited in case I
> don't get my lazy butt in gear and make it happen.
>
>
> Good luck happy dropboxing and so on!

-- 


Adam Morris

email:
a...@damorris.com

Re: [JAWS-Users] update now available to speakDropbox fixing win10 anniversary update bugs

[Justin Williams]

What is the difference between dropbox and speak dropbox?
 Justin

-Original Message-
From: JAWS-Users-List [mailto:jaws-users-list-boun...@jaws-users.com] On
Behalf Of David Ferrin
Sent: Thursday, August 11, 2016 9:53 PM
To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] update now available to speakDropbox fixing win10
anniversary update bugs

I agree that it is a nice bit of goods, thank you from me as well.

-Original Message-
From: Adam Morris
Sent: Thursday, August 11, 2016 9:22 PM
To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] update now available to speakDropbox fixing win10
anniversary update bugs

Hi Aaron and all,


I'd like to thank Aaron publically for his fast response to the dropbox
issues especially since the program is free.

Keep up the great work!


On 12/08/16 08:42, valiant8086 wrote:
> Hi.
>
>
> After I got over my major headache today, I got messing around with 
> speakDropbox again. I can't get it to reproduce the issue I had before 
> that I couldn't get it to click the dropbox icon when I double pressed 
> the respective keystroke. I have no idea why it works now because I've 
> stripped out all the related test code until it's back the way it is 
> in version 15, so until I can reproduce that issue, I'm calling this 
> release ready. So update your speakDropbox's, even those running on 
> windows 10 versions prior to Anniversary update will benefit, since I 
> finally changed the alt+win+m keystroke that opens speakDropbox's own 
> menu to
> shift+alt+win+m instead, so that it works in windows 10 where 
> shift+alt+win+alt+win+m
> just doesn't work at all.
>
>
> If you need a fresh download or if you want to learn what speakDropbox 
> is if you don't know what I'm talking about, the link to the 
> speakDropbox downloads page is
>
> http://valiant8086.com/applications/speakDropbox/
>
> the purpose of speakDropbox is explained there.
>
>
> Of course, as long as you don't have the crazy issue I just had while 
> trying to update my installed copy, you should be able to get it to 
> update itself from the version menu item in speakDropbox's own tray.
>
>
>
> Btw, I've received multiple requests to make a speakOneDrive. I intend 
> to try, but I think I'll extend the functionality of speakDropbox and 
> rename it so that it can speak various icons including One Drive. This 
> would of course not use any more cpu time than it already does if not 
> configured to support one drive or anything else besides dropbox, so 
> let's not be concerned that such a change will result in increased cpu 
> consumption if you just want it to work the way speakDropbox currently 
> does. Any suggestions on a name for such a creature? Also, any further 
> requests for tray icons to support? Google drive is not applicable as 
> it doesn't actually display any useful status.
>
>
> Just to be safe, I'm not positive I'm going to do anything yet, but I 
> am definitely intrigued. Just please don't get too excited in case I 
> don't get my lazy butt in gear and make it happen.
>
>
> Good luck happy dropboxing and so on!

-- 


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Re: [JAWS-Users] update now available to speakDropbox fixing win10 anniversary update bugs

[Nicole Valicia Thompson-Andrews]

I can't get Speak dropbox to close, nor can I find the version menu.
Found it fine on my desktop. No go for the laptop.

On 8/11/16, David Ferrin <ow...@jaws-users.com> wrote:
> I agree that it is a nice bit of goods, thank you from me as well.
>
> -Original Message-
> From: Adam Morris
> Sent: Thursday, August 11, 2016 9:22 PM
> To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
> Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] update now available to speakDropbox fixing win10
>
> anniversary update bugs
>
> Hi Aaron and all,
>
>
> I'd like to thank Aaron publically for his fast response to the dropbox
> issues especially since the program is free.
>
> Keep up the great work!
>
>
> On 12/08/16 08:42, valiant8086 wrote:
>> Hi.
>>
>>
>> After I got over my major headache today, I got messing around with
>> speakDropbox again. I can't get it to reproduce the issue I had before
>> that I couldn't get it to click the dropbox icon when I double pressed the
>>
>> respective keystroke. I have no idea why it works now because I've
>> stripped out all the related test code until it's back the way it is in
>> version 15, so until I can reproduce that issue, I'm calling this release
>>
>> ready. So update your speakDropbox's, even those running on windows 10
>> versions prior to Anniversary update will benefit, since I finally changed
>>
>> the alt+win+m keystroke that opens speakDropbox's own menu to
>> shift+alt+win+m instead, so that it works in windows 10 where alt+win+m
>> just doesn't work at all.
>>
>>
>> If you need a fresh download or if you want to learn what speakDropbox is
>>
>> if you don't know what I'm talking about, the link to the speakDropbox
>> downloads page is
>>
>> http://valiant8086.com/applications/speakDropbox/
>>
>> the purpose of speakDropbox is explained there.
>>
>>
>> Of course, as long as you don't have the crazy issue I just had while
>> trying to update my installed copy, you should be able to get it to update
>>
>> itself from the version menu item in speakDropbox's own tray.
>>
>>
>>
>> Btw, I've received multiple requests to make a speakOneDrive. I intend to
>>
>> try, but I think I'll extend the functionality of speakDropbox and rename
>>
>> it so that it can speak various icons including One Drive. This would of
>> course not use any more cpu time than it already does if not configured to
>>
>> support one drive or anything else besides dropbox, so let's not be
>> concerned that such a change will result in increased cpu consumption if
>> you just want it to work the way speakDropbox currently does. Any
>> suggestions on a name for such a creature? Also, any further requests for
>>
>> tray icons to support? Google drive is not applicable as it doesn't
>> actually display any useful status.
>>
>>
>> Just to be safe, I'm not positive I'm going to do anything yet, but I am
>> definitely intrigued. Just please don't get too excited in case I don't
>> get my lazy butt in gear and make it happen.
>>
>>
>> Good luck happy dropboxing and so on!
>
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>
>
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>
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>
>
>
>
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Re: [JAWS-Users] update now available to speakDropbox fixing win10 anniversary update bugs

[David Ferrin]

I agree that it is a nice bit of goods, thank you from me as well.

-Original Message- 
From: Adam Morris

Sent: Thursday, August 11, 2016 9:22 PM
To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] update now available to speakDropbox fixing win10 
anniversary update bugs


Hi Aaron and all,


I'd like to thank Aaron publically for his fast response to the dropbox
issues especially since the program is free.

Keep up the great work!


On 12/08/16 08:42, valiant8086 wrote:

Hi.


After I got over my major headache today, I got messing around with 
speakDropbox again. I can't get it to reproduce the issue I had before 
that I couldn't get it to click the dropbox icon when I double pressed the 
respective keystroke. I have no idea why it works now because I've 
stripped out all the related test code until it's back the way it is in 
version 15, so until I can reproduce that issue, I'm calling this release 
ready. So update your speakDropbox's, even those running on windows 10 
versions prior to Anniversary update will benefit, since I finally changed 
the alt+win+m keystroke that opens speakDropbox's own menu to 
shift+alt+win+m instead, so that it works in windows 10 where alt+win+m 
just doesn't work at all.



If you need a fresh download or if you want to learn what speakDropbox is 
if you don't know what I'm talking about, the link to the speakDropbox 
downloads page is


http://valiant8086.com/applications/speakDropbox/

the purpose of speakDropbox is explained there.


Of course, as long as you don't have the crazy issue I just had while 
trying to update my installed copy, you should be able to get it to update 
itself from the version menu item in speakDropbox's own tray.




Btw, I've received multiple requests to make a speakOneDrive. I intend to 
try, but I think I'll extend the functionality of speakDropbox and rename 
it so that it can speak various icons including One Drive. This would of 
course not use any more cpu time than it already does if not configured to 
support one drive or anything else besides dropbox, so let's not be 
concerned that such a change will result in increased cpu consumption if 
you just want it to work the way speakDropbox currently does. Any 
suggestions on a name for such a creature? Also, any further requests for 
tray icons to support? Google drive is not applicable as it doesn't 
actually display any useful status.



Just to be safe, I'm not positive I'm going to do anything yet, but I am 
definitely intrigued. Just please don't get too excited in case I don't 
get my lazy butt in gear and make it happen.



Good luck happy dropboxing and so on!


--


Adam Morris

email:
a...@damorris.com




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Re: [JAWS-Users] update now available to speakDropbox fixing win10 anniversary update bugs

[Adam Morris]

Hi Aaron and all,


I'd like to thank Aaron publically for his fast response to the dropbox 
issues especially since the program is free.


Keep up the great work!


On 12/08/16 08:42, valiant8086 wrote:

Hi.


After I got over my major headache today, I got messing around with 
speakDropbox again. I can't get it to reproduce the issue I had before 
that I couldn't get it to click the dropbox icon when I double pressed 
the respective keystroke. I have no idea why it works now because I've 
stripped out all the related test code until it's back the way it is 
in version 15, so until I can reproduce that issue, I'm calling this 
release ready. So update your speakDropbox's, even those running on 
windows 10 versions prior to Anniversary update will benefit, since I 
finally changed the alt+win+m keystroke that opens speakDropbox's own 
menu to shift+alt+win+m instead, so that it works in windows 10 where 
alt+win+m just doesn't work at all.



If you need a fresh download or if you want to learn what speakDropbox 
is if you don't know what I'm talking about, the link to the 
speakDropbox downloads page is


http://valiant8086.com/applications/speakDropbox/

the purpose of speakDropbox is explained there.


Of course, as long as you don't have the crazy issue I just had while 
trying to update my installed copy, you should be able to get it to 
update itself from the version menu item in speakDropbox's own tray.




Btw, I've received multiple requests to make a speakOneDrive. I intend 
to try, but I think I'll extend the functionality of speakDropbox and 
rename it so that it can speak various icons including One Drive. This 
would of course not use any more cpu time than it already does if not 
configured to support one drive or anything else besides dropbox, so 
let's not be concerned that such a change will result in increased cpu 
consumption if you just want it to work the way speakDropbox currently 
does. Any suggestions on a name for such a creature? Also, any further 
requests for tray icons to support? Google drive is not applicable as 
it doesn't actually display any useful status.



Just to be safe, I'm not positive I'm going to do anything yet, but I 
am definitely intrigued. Just please don't get too excited in case I 
don't get my lazy butt in gear and make it happen.



Good luck happy dropboxing and so on!


--


Adam Morris

email:
a...@damorris.com




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Re: [JAWS-Users] Update On Outlook 2016 Folder Display Issue And System Restore

[Tom Behler]

Allen:

You are correct.

Control shift tab also gets us to the Outlook folder list, so this is
another workaround, in addition to control Y, and shift F6.

It's good to have these possibilities, for sure.

I haven't discovered anything else broken in Outlook 2016, but time will
tell, I guess.

At least Jaws tech support and Microsoft are aware of the shift-tab issue.

Dr.  Tom Behler from Michigan


-Original Message-
From: JAWS-Users-List [mailto:jaws-users-list-boun...@jaws-users.com] On
Behalf Of Allen Childs
Sent: Tuesday, August 09, 2016 11:21 PM
To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] Update On Outlook 2016 Folder Display Issue And
System Restore

Tom,
I started having the same problem and I tried using the, control,
shift and tab altogether and I can get through my folders. You might try it
and see what happens.

Allen

-Original Message-
From: JAWS-Users-List [mailto:jaws-users-list-boun...@jaws-users.com] On
Behalf Of Tom Behler
Sent: Tuesday, August 9, 2016 9:27 PM
To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] Update On Outlook 2016 Folder Display Issue And
System Restore

Thanks, Mauricio.

I'll add your suggestions to my list of workarounds for the problem.

And, I'll keep everyone posted if I learn more.

I'm told that someone from Jaws Technical Support may be contacting me,
since this issue is now in escalated status, so will see how things play out
over the next few days.

Microsoft Tech Support has also now recognized this as what they call an
"emerging issue".

Dr.  Tom Behler from Michigan


-Original Message-
From: JAWS-Users-List [mailto:jaws-users-list-boun...@jaws-users.com] On
Behalf Of Mauricio Molina
Sent: Tuesday, August 09, 2016 8:35 PM
To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] Update On Outlook 2016 Folder Display Issue And
System Restore

Tom, 

Having this issue myself, I am somewhat pleased to learn it is not unique to
my system. After speaking with Microsoft tech support earlier today, the
temporary fix is to use Control+Shift+Tab to get to the folder list and
Control+Tab to get back to the message list if you do not move to 
Control+another
email folder. If you use Control+Shift+Tab to move to the folder list and
then use your arrow keys or first letter to move to another folder, using
Enter or the Spacebar will still work to get into the folder; Control+Tab is
only used if you use Control+Shift+Tab but do not move to a different folder
than the one just exited. 

I hope this makes sense and hope there will be a quick fix. Thanks for the
info regarding how this problem is a known issue. 

Mauricio

-Original Message-
From: JAWS-Users-List [mailto:jaws-users-list-boun...@jaws-users.com] On
Behalf Of Tom Behler
Sent: Tuesday, August 9, 2016 8:13 AM
To: 'Jaws users list' <jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com>
Subject: [JAWS-Users] Update On Outlook 2016 Folder Display Issue And System
Restore

Hello, everyone.

 

I just got off the phone with Jaws technical support, and, apparently, I'm
not the only one experiencing the problem with the folder display in Outlook
2016 that I described yesterday.  Others with Outlook 2016 and Office 365
are now experiencing it as well.

 

The problem  has something to do with a recent update to Office 365, which
has somehow corrupted the navigation pane.

 

The issue has been referred to higher levels at Freedom Scientific, and they
will contact Microsoft about the issue.

 

I'm also going to contact the Microsoft Accessibility hotline to let them
know of the issue.

 

In the meantime, I'll have to use Control Y, rather than shift tab, to
access my Outlook folder list, so at least, I'm not totally dead in the
water.

 

I'll keep everyone updated.

 

Dr.  Tom Behler from Michigan

 

 

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Re: [JAWS-Users] Update On Outlook 2016 Folder Display Issue And System Restore

[Allen Childs]

Tom,
I started having the same problem and I tried using the, control,
shift and tab altogether and I can get through my folders. You might try it
and see what happens.

Allen

-Original Message-
From: JAWS-Users-List [mailto:jaws-users-list-boun...@jaws-users.com] On
Behalf Of Tom Behler
Sent: Tuesday, August 9, 2016 9:27 PM
To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] Update On Outlook 2016 Folder Display Issue And
System Restore

Thanks, Mauricio.

I'll add your suggestions to my list of workarounds for the problem.

And, I'll keep everyone posted if I learn more.

I'm told that someone from Jaws Technical Support may be contacting me,
since this issue is now in escalated status, so will see how things play out
over the next few days.

Microsoft Tech Support has also now recognized this as what they call an
"emerging issue".

Dr.  Tom Behler from Michigan


-Original Message-
From: JAWS-Users-List [mailto:jaws-users-list-boun...@jaws-users.com] On
Behalf Of Mauricio Molina
Sent: Tuesday, August 09, 2016 8:35 PM
To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] Update On Outlook 2016 Folder Display Issue And
System Restore

Tom, 

Having this issue myself, I am somewhat pleased to learn it is not unique to
my system. After speaking with Microsoft tech support earlier today, the
temporary fix is to use Control+Shift+Tab to get to the folder list and
Control+Tab to get back to the message list if you do not move to 
Control+another
email folder. If you use Control+Shift+Tab to move to the folder list and
then use your arrow keys or first letter to move to another folder, using
Enter or the Spacebar will still work to get into the folder; Control+Tab is
only used if you use Control+Shift+Tab but do not move to a different folder
than the one just exited. 

I hope this makes sense and hope there will be a quick fix. Thanks for the
info regarding how this problem is a known issue. 

Mauricio

-Original Message-
From: JAWS-Users-List [mailto:jaws-users-list-boun...@jaws-users.com] On
Behalf Of Tom Behler
Sent: Tuesday, August 9, 2016 8:13 AM
To: 'Jaws users list' <jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com>
Subject: [JAWS-Users] Update On Outlook 2016 Folder Display Issue And System
Restore

Hello, everyone.

 

I just got off the phone with Jaws technical support, and, apparently, I'm
not the only one experiencing the problem with the folder display in Outlook
2016 that I described yesterday.  Others with Outlook 2016 and Office 365
are now experiencing it as well.

 

The problem  has something to do with a recent update to Office 365, which
has somehow corrupted the navigation pane.

 

The issue has been referred to higher levels at Freedom Scientific, and they
will contact Microsoft about the issue.

 

I'm also going to contact the Microsoft Accessibility hotline to let them
know of the issue.

 

In the meantime, I'll have to use Control Y, rather than shift tab, to
access my Outlook folder list, so at least, I'm not totally dead in the
water.

 

I'll keep everyone updated.

 

Dr.  Tom Behler from Michigan

 

 

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Re: [JAWS-Users] Update On Outlook 2016 Folder Display Issue And System Restore

[Tom Behler]

Thanks, Mauricio.

I'll add your suggestions to my list of workarounds for the problem.

And, I'll keep everyone posted if I learn more.

I'm told that someone from Jaws Technical Support may be contacting me,
since this issue is now in escalated status, so will see how things play out
over the next few days.

Microsoft Tech Support has also now recognized this as what they call an
"emerging issue".

Dr.  Tom Behler from Michigan


-Original Message-
From: JAWS-Users-List [mailto:jaws-users-list-boun...@jaws-users.com] On
Behalf Of Mauricio Molina
Sent: Tuesday, August 09, 2016 8:35 PM
To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] Update On Outlook 2016 Folder Display Issue And
System Restore

Tom, 

Having this issue myself, I am somewhat pleased to learn it is not unique to
my system. After speaking with Microsoft tech support earlier today, the
temporary fix is to use Control+Shift+Tab to get to the folder list and
Control+Tab to get back to the message list if you do not move to 
Control+another
email folder. If you use Control+Shift+Tab to move to the folder list and
then use your arrow keys or first letter to move to another folder, using
Enter or the Spacebar will still work to get into the folder; Control+Tab is
only used if you use Control+Shift+Tab but do not move to a different folder
than the one just exited. 

I hope this makes sense and hope there will be a quick fix. Thanks for the
info regarding how this problem is a known issue. 

Mauricio

-Original Message-
From: JAWS-Users-List [mailto:jaws-users-list-boun...@jaws-users.com] On
Behalf Of Tom Behler
Sent: Tuesday, August 9, 2016 8:13 AM
To: 'Jaws users list' <jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com>
Subject: [JAWS-Users] Update On Outlook 2016 Folder Display Issue And System
Restore

Hello, everyone.

 

I just got off the phone with Jaws technical support, and, apparently, I'm
not the only one experiencing the problem with the folder display in Outlook
2016 that I described yesterday.  Others with Outlook 2016 and Office 365
are now experiencing it as well.

 

The problem  has something to do with a recent update to Office 365, which
has somehow corrupted the navigation pane.

 

The issue has been referred to higher levels at Freedom Scientific, and they
will contact Microsoft about the issue.

 

I'm also going to contact the Microsoft Accessibility hotline to let them
know of the issue.

 

In the meantime, I'll have to use Control Y, rather than shift tab, to
access my Outlook folder list, so at least, I'm not totally dead in the
water.

 

I'll keep everyone updated.

 

Dr.  Tom Behler from Michigan

 

 

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Re: [JAWS-Users] Update On Outlook 2016 Folder Display Issue And System Restore

[Mauricio Molina]

Tom, 

Having this issue myself, I am somewhat pleased to learn it is not unique to
my system. After speaking with Microsoft tech support earlier today, the
temporary fix is to use Control+Shift+Tab to get to the folder list and
Control+Tab to get back to the message list if you do not move to another
email folder. If you use Control+Shift+Tab to move to the folder list and
then use your arrow keys or first letter to move to another folder, using
Enter or the Spacebar will still work to get into the folder; Control+Tab is
only used if you use Control+Shift+Tab but do not move to a different folder
than the one just exited. 

I hope this makes sense and hope there will be a quick fix. Thanks for the
info regarding how this problem is a known issue. 

Mauricio

-Original Message-
From: JAWS-Users-List [mailto:jaws-users-list-boun...@jaws-users.com] On
Behalf Of Tom Behler
Sent: Tuesday, August 9, 2016 8:13 AM
To: 'Jaws users list' 
Subject: [JAWS-Users] Update On Outlook 2016 Folder Display Issue And System
Restore

Hello, everyone.

 

I just got off the phone with Jaws technical support, and, apparently, I'm
not the only one experiencing the problem with the folder display in Outlook
2016 that I described yesterday.  Others with Outlook 2016 and Office 365
are now experiencing it as well.

 

The problem  has something to do with a recent update to Office 365, which
has somehow corrupted the navigation pane.

 

The issue has been referred to higher levels at Freedom Scientific, and they
will contact Microsoft about the issue.

 

I'm also going to contact the Microsoft Accessibility hotline to let them
know of the issue.

 

In the meantime, I'll have to use Control Y, rather than shift tab, to
access my Outlook folder list, so at least, I'm not totally dead in the
water.

 

I'll keep everyone updated.

 

Dr.  Tom Behler from Michigan

 

 

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Re: [JAWS-Users] Update w10

[James Flusche]

Hi David, you are welcome.


-Original Message-
From: JAWS-Users-List [mailto:jaws-users-list-boun...@jaws-users.com] On
Behalf Of David Moore
Sent: Friday, August 05, 2016 6:58 PM
To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] Update w10

Hi Jim,
Thank you so much for your directions. Last night, by using your directions
that you put on here, I was able to upgrade both of my laptops to the win10
anniversary update. Now, I am figuring this out, and having a lot of fun
with Narrator.
Take care, everybody.
David Moore


-Original Message-
From: James Flusche
Sent: Friday, August 5, 2016 6:50 PM
To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] Update w10

If you do not wish to wait, follow my below directions to update to the new
anniversary update right now. I am updating my laptop right now following
the below directions. Good luck.
Upgrading manually to the anniversary Windows-10 update,  with Jaws 17.
Download the Microsoft media creation tool at:
http://www.microsoft.com/en-us/software-download/windows10
Go to the top of the page with Control+home.
Press H, for heading, 3 times to, Looking to install W-10 on your PC.
Down arrow three times to, Download tool now link, press enter.
Press ALT+N, for the notification bar, tab to save, press enter.
Now you are ready to begin the update to the anniversary  update to windows
10.
Go to your download folder, highlight the media creation tool.
Press the applications key, go down to, run as administrator, press enter.
yes, for your users account warning.
Choose, update this computer now and press enter.
you are now in an ongoing and updating dialog which says:
Windows 10 is being downloaded, continue using your computer.
This could take anywhere between 30 to 60 minutes, depending on your
download speed.
When it is done downloading, it will go through several screens itself
updating your computer and will get it ready for windows 10.
Next, there will be a screen asking you to except the license agreement,
check the yes and press enter on next.
Again, the program will run through several screens by itself.
Next, press enter on install.
now you will have no speech, this install takes 45 to 60 minutes to
complete.
Now when it is finished, Jaws will talk to you, either password edit, or pin
edit.
Type in your password or pin.
You will be on your desktop in the anniversary update to W-10.
Now, I uninstalled and then freshly installed Jaws 17.
Keeping the shared components, keeping my personal settings.
This will give you the maximum performance in the w-10 anniversary update.
Redo your shortcut key, control+ALT+j.
Redo the setting to have jaws come on at the log-on screen.
All your other settings will be remembered by Jaws.
You are done, updating to the W-10 anniversary update!

-Original Message-
From: JAWS-Users-List [mailto:jaws-users-list-boun...@jaws-users.com] On
Behalf Of Holger Fiallo
Sent: Friday, August 05, 2016 6:42 PM
To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
Subject: [JAWS-Users] Update w10



Had not heard from anyone regarding my question. Still waiting for w10 to
update. I have w10 1511. I hear people having it yet I do not. I am in
Chicago.
Holger Fiallo
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Re: [JAWS-Users] Update w10

[David Moore]

Hi,
I had not gotten the update yet either, today, in Columbus, Ohio. I went 
ahead and used the media creation tool with out a hitch to upgrade both of 
my laptops this afternoon. You just have to uninstall JAWS and the JAWS 
mirror display driver, and use Narrator to upgrade with the media creation 
tool, and you will be up and going in a couple of hours. Just reinstall 
JAWS, and all will work well.

Take care,
David Moore


-Original Message- 
From: Holger Fiallo

Sent: Friday, August 5, 2016 6:42 PM
To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
Subject: [JAWS-Users] Update w10



Had not heard from anyone regarding my question. Still waiting for w10 to 
update. I have w10 1511. I hear people having it yet I do not. I am in 
Chicago.

Holger Fiallo
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Re: [JAWS-Users] Update w10

[David Moore]

Hi Jim,
Thank you so much for your directions. Last night, by using your directions 
that you put on here, I was able to upgrade both of my laptops to the win10 
anniversary update. Now, I am figuring this out, and having a lot of fun 
with Narrator.

Take care, everybody.
David Moore


-Original Message- 
From: James Flusche

Sent: Friday, August 5, 2016 6:50 PM
To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] Update w10

If you do not wish to wait, follow my below directions to update to the new
anniversary update right now. I am updating my laptop right now following
the below directions. Good luck.
Upgrading manually to the anniversary Windows-10 update,  with Jaws 17.
Download the Microsoft media creation tool at:
http://www.microsoft.com/en-us/software-download/windows10
Go to the top of the page with Control+home.
Press H, for heading, 3 times to, Looking to install W-10 on your PC.
Down arrow three times to, Download tool now link, press enter.
Press ALT+N, for the notification bar, tab to save, press enter.
Now you are ready to begin the update to the anniversary  update to windows
10.
Go to your download folder, highlight the media creation tool.
Press the applications key, go down to, run as administrator, press enter.
yes, for your users account warning.
Choose, update this computer now and press enter.
you are now in an ongoing and updating dialog which says:
Windows 10 is being downloaded, continue using your computer.
This could take anywhere between 30 to 60 minutes, depending on your
download speed.
When it is done downloading, it will go through several screens itself
updating your computer and will get it ready for windows 10.
Next, there will be a screen asking you to except the license agreement,
check the yes and press enter on next.
Again, the program will run through several screens by itself.
Next, press enter on install.
now you will have no speech, this install takes 45 to 60 minutes to
complete.
Now when it is finished, Jaws will talk to you, either password edit, or pin
edit.
Type in your password or pin.
You will be on your desktop in the anniversary update to W-10.
Now, I uninstalled and then freshly installed Jaws 17.
Keeping the shared components, keeping my personal settings.
This will give you the maximum performance in the w-10 anniversary update.
Redo your shortcut key, control+ALT+j.
Redo the setting to have jaws come on at the log-on screen.
All your other settings will be remembered by Jaws.
You are done, updating to the W-10 anniversary update!

-Original Message-
From: JAWS-Users-List [mailto:jaws-users-list-boun...@jaws-users.com] On
Behalf Of Holger Fiallo
Sent: Friday, August 05, 2016 6:42 PM
To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
Subject: [JAWS-Users] Update w10



Had not heard from anyone regarding my question. Still waiting for w10 to
update. I have w10 1511. I hear people having it yet I do not. I am in
Chicago.
Holger Fiallo
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Re: [JAWS-Users] Update w10

[James Flusche]

If you do not wish to wait, follow my below directions to update to the new
anniversary update right now. I am updating my laptop right now following
the below directions. Good luck.
Upgrading manually to the anniversary Windows-10 update,  with Jaws 17.
Download the Microsoft media creation tool at:
http://www.microsoft.com/en-us/software-download/windows10
Go to the top of the page with Control+home.
Press H, for heading, 3 times to, Looking to install W-10 on your PC.
Down arrow three times to, Download tool now link, press enter.
Press ALT+N, for the notification bar, tab to save, press enter.
Now you are ready to begin the update to the anniversary  update to windows
10.
Go to your download folder, highlight the media creation tool.
Press the applications key, go down to, run as administrator, press enter.
yes, for your users account warning.
Choose, update this computer now and press enter.
you are now in an ongoing and updating dialog which says:
Windows 10 is being downloaded, continue using your computer.
This could take anywhere between 30 to 60 minutes, depending on your
download speed.
When it is done downloading, it will go through several screens itself
updating your computer and will get it ready for windows 10.
Next, there will be a screen asking you to except the license agreement,
check the yes and press enter on next.
Again, the program will run through several screens by itself.
Next, press enter on install.
now you will have no speech, this install takes 45 to 60 minutes to
complete.
Now when it is finished, Jaws will talk to you, either password edit, or pin
edit.
Type in your password or pin.
You will be on your desktop in the anniversary update to W-10.
Now, I uninstalled and then freshly installed Jaws 17.
Keeping the shared components, keeping my personal settings.
This will give you the maximum performance in the w-10 anniversary update.
Redo your shortcut key, control+ALT+j.
Redo the setting to have jaws come on at the log-on screen.
All your other settings will be remembered by Jaws.
You are done, updating to the W-10 anniversary update!

-Original Message-
From: JAWS-Users-List [mailto:jaws-users-list-boun...@jaws-users.com] On
Behalf Of Holger Fiallo
Sent: Friday, August 05, 2016 6:42 PM
To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
Subject: [JAWS-Users] Update w10



Had not heard from anyone regarding my question. Still waiting for w10 to
update. I have w10 1511. I hear people having it yet I do not. I am in
Chicago. 
Holger Fiallo
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Re: [JAWS-Users] Update On "Get Windows 10" Saga

[Neil Towery]

1 800 936 5900
 They are good. Neil 


-Original Message-
From: JAWS-Users-List [mailto:jaws-users-list-boun...@jaws-users.com] On
Behalf Of Gail the U.S. Male
Sent: Monday, January 25, 2016 10:38 AM
To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] Update On "Get Windows 10" Saga

What is the Microsoft accessability hotline phone number?

-Original Message-
From: JAWS-Users-List [mailto:jaws-users-list-boun...@jaws-users.com] On
Behalf Of Gerald Levy
Sent: Monday, January 25, 2016 9:05 AM
To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] Update On "Get Windows 10" Saga


Just keep a very close eye on your computer to make sure that Windows 10
does not get installed surreptitiously.  It's bad enough that Microsoft in
general cannot be trusted, but based on your experience, even the agents who
man the special accessibility help line can't be trusted, either.

Gerald



-Original Message-
From: Annette Carr
Sent: Monday, January 25, 2016 9:20 AM
To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] Update On "Get Windows 10" Saga

I just got off of the phone with the Microsoft Accessibility support line.
I can't say that I am as happy as the rest of you have been with the
assistance I received.  Before beginning to remote into my computer, he
tried every way possible to convince me to let him install Windows10.  Maybe
he just did not understand English well.  I finally had to ask to speak to a
supervisor or manager, and he then agreed to do what I was asking.

When he was done, I asked him to review what he had done.  He told me that
he hid the Windows10 installation icon.  I asked how long will the icon stay
hidden and he said for a few days.  I told him that I wanted it removed
completely from my computer and he said that there is no way to do that, and
that I will be happier in a few days if I would call back and have them
install windows10 for me.

So on the positive side , I will not be annoyed by the Windows10 update
window for a few days.

Annette

-Original Message-
From: JAWS-Users-List [mailto:jaws-users-list-boun...@jaws-users.com] On
Behalf Of Tom Behler
Sent: Sunday, January 24, 2016 6:29 PM
To: Jaws users list
Subject: [JAWS-Users] Update On "Get Windows 10" Saga

Hello, everyone.



As I stated earlier, despite my best efforts, the "Get Windows 10" message
re-appeared on my home Windows 7 computer once again late this afternoon.



Admittedly, I did not install the GWX control panel program software that a
few had suggested, because I was a little leary of putting new software on
my computer without really knowing what I was doing.



Anyway, having spent far too many hours on this needlessly-created  issue so
far, I decided to call the Microsoft Accessibility Hotline for assistance.



It turns out that somehow, the "get windows 10" message, and associated
files had been installed on my computer in several different locations.  It
took the accessibility specialist a full hour to get everything properly
uninstalled and operating as it should.



I couldn't tell for sure, but I even think the accessibility specialist was
getting frustrated at several points.



I used this situation as an opportunity to let her know in no uncertain
terms that Microsoft is not making any friends among blind computer users
who are being harassed repeatedly with the "get windows 10" message, and
that I would hope this could somehow be taken into consideration.



I am sure, as someone else pointed out, this complaint and my situation will
not mean diddley to Microsoft.  But, I would urge anyone with this issue to
contact the Accessibility Hotline, rather than trying to go it alone with
only frustration as the end result.



At least, this is my suggestion at this time, based on my recent experience.



Dr.  Tom Behler from Michigan



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Re: [JAWS-Users] Update On "Get Windows 10" Saga

[Al Sorrentino]

Micro Soft 
Customer Service for Persons with Disabilities
M-F 8 AM to 12 Am, Sat 10 AM to 6 PM, Sun 10 Am to 5 PM  EST
(800) 936-5900


-Original Message-
From: JAWS-Users-List [mailto:jaws-users-list-boun...@jaws-users.com] On
Behalf Of Gail the U.S. Male
Sent: Monday, January 25, 2016 10:38 AM
To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] Update On "Get Windows 10" Saga

What is the Microsoft accessability hotline phone number?

-Original Message-
From: JAWS-Users-List [mailto:jaws-users-list-boun...@jaws-users.com] On
Behalf Of Gerald Levy
Sent: Monday, January 25, 2016 9:05 AM
To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] Update On "Get Windows 10" Saga


Just keep a very close eye on your computer to make sure that Windows 10
does not get installed surreptitiously.  It's bad enough that Microsoft in
general cannot be trusted, but based on your experience, even the agents who
man the special accessibility help line can't be trusted, either.

Gerald



-Original Message-
From: Annette Carr
Sent: Monday, January 25, 2016 9:20 AM
To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] Update On "Get Windows 10" Saga

I just got off of the phone with the Microsoft Accessibility support line.
I can't say that I am as happy as the rest of you have been with the
assistance I received.  Before beginning to remote into my computer, he
tried every way possible to convince me to let him install Windows10.  Maybe
he just did not understand English well.  I finally had to ask to speak to a
supervisor or manager, and he then agreed to do what I was asking.

When he was done, I asked him to review what he had done.  He told me that
he hid the Windows10 installation icon.  I asked how long will the icon stay
hidden and he said for a few days.  I told him that I wanted it removed
completely from my computer and he said that there is no way to do that, and
that I will be happier in a few days if I would call back and have them
install windows10 for me.

So on the positive side , I will not be annoyed by the Windows10 update
window for a few days.

Annette

-Original Message-
From: JAWS-Users-List [mailto:jaws-users-list-boun...@jaws-users.com] On
Behalf Of Tom Behler
Sent: Sunday, January 24, 2016 6:29 PM
To: Jaws users list
Subject: [JAWS-Users] Update On "Get Windows 10" Saga

Hello, everyone.



As I stated earlier, despite my best efforts, the "Get Windows 10" message
re-appeared on my home Windows 7 computer once again late this afternoon.



Admittedly, I did not install the GWX control panel program software that a
few had suggested, because I was a little leary of putting new software on
my computer without really knowing what I was doing.



Anyway, having spent far too many hours on this needlessly-created  issue so
far, I decided to call the Microsoft Accessibility Hotline for assistance.



It turns out that somehow, the "get windows 10" message, and associated
files had been installed on my computer in several different locations.  It
took the accessibility specialist a full hour to get everything properly
uninstalled and operating as it should.



I couldn't tell for sure, but I even think the accessibility specialist was
getting frustrated at several points.



I used this situation as an opportunity to let her know in no uncertain
terms that Microsoft is not making any friends among blind computer users
who are being harassed repeatedly with the "get windows 10" message, and
that I would hope this could somehow be taken into consideration.



I am sure, as someone else pointed out, this complaint and my situation will
not mean diddley to Microsoft.  But, I would urge anyone with this issue to
contact the Accessibility Hotline, rather than trying to go it alone with
only frustration as the end result.



At least, this is my suggestion at this time, based on my recent experience.



Dr.  Tom Behler from Michigan



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Re: [JAWS-Users] Update On "Get Windows 10" Saga

[Annette Carr]

I just got off of the phone with the Microsoft Accessibility support line.
I can't say that I am as happy as the rest of you have been with the
assistance I received.  Before beginning to remote into my computer, he
tried every way possible to convince me to let him install Windows10.  Maybe
he just did not understand English well.  I finally had to ask to speak to a
supervisor or manager, and he then agreed to do what I was asking.

When he was done, I asked him to review what he had done.  He told me that
he hid the Windows10 installation icon.  I asked how long will the icon stay
hidden and he said for a few days.  I told him that I wanted it removed
completely from my computer and he said that there is no way to do that, and
that I will be happier in a few days if I would call back and have them
install windows10 for me.

So on the positive side , I will not be annoyed by the Windows10 update
window for a few days.

Annette

-Original Message-
From: JAWS-Users-List [mailto:jaws-users-list-boun...@jaws-users.com] On
Behalf Of Tom Behler
Sent: Sunday, January 24, 2016 6:29 PM
To: Jaws users list
Subject: [JAWS-Users] Update On "Get Windows 10" Saga

Hello, everyone.

 

As I stated earlier, despite my best efforts, the "Get Windows 10" message
re-appeared on my home Windows 7 computer once again late this afternoon.

 

Admittedly, I did not install the GWX control panel program software that a
few had suggested, because I was a little leary of putting new software on
my computer without really knowing what I was doing.

 

Anyway, having spent far too many hours on this needlessly-created  issue so
far, I decided to call the Microsoft Accessibility Hotline for assistance.

 

It turns out that somehow, the "get windows 10" message, and associated
files had been installed on my computer in several different locations.  It
took the accessibility specialist a full hour to get everything properly
uninstalled and operating as it should.

 

I couldn't tell for sure, but I even think the accessibility specialist was
getting frustrated at several points.

 

I used this situation as an opportunity to let her know in no uncertain
terms that Microsoft is not making any friends among blind computer users
who are being harassed repeatedly with the "get windows 10" message, and
that I would hope this could somehow be taken into consideration.

 

I am sure, as someone else pointed out, this complaint and my situation will
not mean diddley to Microsoft.  But, I would urge anyone with this issue to
contact the Accessibility Hotline, rather than trying to go it alone with
only frustration as the end result.

 

At least, this is my suggestion at this time, based on my recent experience.

 

Dr.  Tom Behler from Michigan

 

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Re: [JAWS-Users] Update On "Get Windows 10" Saga

[Gerald Levy]

Just keep a very close eye on your computer to make sure that Windows 10 
does not get installed surreptitiously.  It's bad enough that Microsoft in 
general cannot be trusted, but based on your experience, even the agents who 
man the special accessibility help line can't be trusted, either.


Gerald



-Original Message- 
From: Annette Carr

Sent: Monday, January 25, 2016 9:20 AM
To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] Update On "Get Windows 10" Saga

I just got off of the phone with the Microsoft Accessibility support line.
I can't say that I am as happy as the rest of you have been with the
assistance I received.  Before beginning to remote into my computer, he
tried every way possible to convince me to let him install Windows10.  Maybe
he just did not understand English well.  I finally had to ask to speak to a
supervisor or manager, and he then agreed to do what I was asking.

When he was done, I asked him to review what he had done.  He told me that
he hid the Windows10 installation icon.  I asked how long will the icon stay
hidden and he said for a few days.  I told him that I wanted it removed
completely from my computer and he said that there is no way to do that, and
that I will be happier in a few days if I would call back and have them
install windows10 for me.

So on the positive side , I will not be annoyed by the Windows10 update
window for a few days.

Annette

-Original Message-
From: JAWS-Users-List [mailto:jaws-users-list-boun...@jaws-users.com] On
Behalf Of Tom Behler
Sent: Sunday, January 24, 2016 6:29 PM
To: Jaws users list
Subject: [JAWS-Users] Update On "Get Windows 10" Saga

Hello, everyone.



As I stated earlier, despite my best efforts, the "Get Windows 10" message
re-appeared on my home Windows 7 computer once again late this afternoon.



Admittedly, I did not install the GWX control panel program software that a
few had suggested, because I was a little leary of putting new software on
my computer without really knowing what I was doing.



Anyway, having spent far too many hours on this needlessly-created  issue so
far, I decided to call the Microsoft Accessibility Hotline for assistance.



It turns out that somehow, the "get windows 10" message, and associated
files had been installed on my computer in several different locations.  It
took the accessibility specialist a full hour to get everything properly
uninstalled and operating as it should.



I couldn't tell for sure, but I even think the accessibility specialist was
getting frustrated at several points.



I used this situation as an opportunity to let her know in no uncertain
terms that Microsoft is not making any friends among blind computer users
who are being harassed repeatedly with the "get windows 10" message, and
that I would hope this could somehow be taken into consideration.



I am sure, as someone else pointed out, this complaint and my situation will
not mean diddley to Microsoft.  But, I would urge anyone with this issue to
contact the Accessibility Hotline, rather than trying to go it alone with
only frustration as the end result.



At least, this is my suggestion at this time, based on my recent experience.



Dr.  Tom Behler from Michigan



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Re: [JAWS-Users] Update On "Get Windows 10" Saga

[Gail the U.S. Male]

What is the Microsoft accessability hotline phone number?

-Original Message-
From: JAWS-Users-List [mailto:jaws-users-list-boun...@jaws-users.com] On
Behalf Of Gerald Levy 
Sent: Monday, January 25, 2016 9:05 AM
To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] Update On "Get Windows 10" Saga


Just keep a very close eye on your computer to make sure that Windows 10
does not get installed surreptitiously.  It's bad enough that Microsoft in
general cannot be trusted, but based on your experience, even the agents who
man the special accessibility help line can't be trusted, either.

Gerald



-Original Message-
From: Annette Carr
Sent: Monday, January 25, 2016 9:20 AM
To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] Update On "Get Windows 10" Saga

I just got off of the phone with the Microsoft Accessibility support line.
I can't say that I am as happy as the rest of you have been with the
assistance I received.  Before beginning to remote into my computer, he
tried every way possible to convince me to let him install Windows10.  Maybe
he just did not understand English well.  I finally had to ask to speak to a
supervisor or manager, and he then agreed to do what I was asking.

When he was done, I asked him to review what he had done.  He told me that
he hid the Windows10 installation icon.  I asked how long will the icon stay
hidden and he said for a few days.  I told him that I wanted it removed
completely from my computer and he said that there is no way to do that, and
that I will be happier in a few days if I would call back and have them
install windows10 for me.

So on the positive side , I will not be annoyed by the Windows10 update
window for a few days.

Annette

-Original Message-
From: JAWS-Users-List [mailto:jaws-users-list-boun...@jaws-users.com] On
Behalf Of Tom Behler
Sent: Sunday, January 24, 2016 6:29 PM
To: Jaws users list
Subject: [JAWS-Users] Update On "Get Windows 10" Saga

Hello, everyone.



As I stated earlier, despite my best efforts, the "Get Windows 10" message
re-appeared on my home Windows 7 computer once again late this afternoon.



Admittedly, I did not install the GWX control panel program software that a
few had suggested, because I was a little leary of putting new software on
my computer without really knowing what I was doing.



Anyway, having spent far too many hours on this needlessly-created  issue so
far, I decided to call the Microsoft Accessibility Hotline for assistance.



It turns out that somehow, the "get windows 10" message, and associated
files had been installed on my computer in several different locations.  It
took the accessibility specialist a full hour to get everything properly
uninstalled and operating as it should.



I couldn't tell for sure, but I even think the accessibility specialist was
getting frustrated at several points.



I used this situation as an opportunity to let her know in no uncertain
terms that Microsoft is not making any friends among blind computer users
who are being harassed repeatedly with the "get windows 10" message, and
that I would hope this could somehow be taken into consideration.



I am sure, as someone else pointed out, this complaint and my situation will
not mean diddley to Microsoft.  But, I would urge anyone with this issue to
contact the Accessibility Hotline, rather than trying to go it alone with
only frustration as the end result.



At least, this is my suggestion at this time, based on my recent experience.



Dr.  Tom Behler from Michigan



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Re: [JAWS-Users] Update On "Get Windows 10" Saga

[T. Civitello]

MicroSoft help: 800 936 5900

-Original Message- 
From: Gail the U.S. Male

Sent: Monday, January 25, 2016 7:38 AM
To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] Update On "Get Windows 10" Saga

What is the Microsoft accessability hotline phone number?

-Original Message-
From: JAWS-Users-List [mailto:jaws-users-list-boun...@jaws-users.com] On
Behalf Of Gerald Levy
Sent: Monday, January 25, 2016 9:05 AM
To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] Update On "Get Windows 10" Saga


Just keep a very close eye on your computer to make sure that Windows 10
does not get installed surreptitiously.  It's bad enough that Microsoft in
general cannot be trusted, but based on your experience, even the agents who
man the special accessibility help line can't be trusted, either.

Gerald



-Original Message-
From: Annette Carr
Sent: Monday, January 25, 2016 9:20 AM
To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] Update On "Get Windows 10" Saga

I just got off of the phone with the Microsoft Accessibility support line.
I can't say that I am as happy as the rest of you have been with the
assistance I received.  Before beginning to remote into my computer, he
tried every way possible to convince me to let him install Windows10.  Maybe
he just did not understand English well.  I finally had to ask to speak to a
supervisor or manager, and he then agreed to do what I was asking.

When he was done, I asked him to review what he had done.  He told me that
he hid the Windows10 installation icon.  I asked how long will the icon stay
hidden and he said for a few days.  I told him that I wanted it removed
completely from my computer and he said that there is no way to do that, and
that I will be happier in a few days if I would call back and have them
install windows10 for me.

So on the positive side , I will not be annoyed by the Windows10 update
window for a few days.

Annette

-Original Message-
From: JAWS-Users-List [mailto:jaws-users-list-boun...@jaws-users.com] On
Behalf Of Tom Behler
Sent: Sunday, January 24, 2016 6:29 PM
To: Jaws users list
Subject: [JAWS-Users] Update On "Get Windows 10" Saga

Hello, everyone.



As I stated earlier, despite my best efforts, the "Get Windows 10" message
re-appeared on my home Windows 7 computer once again late this afternoon.



Admittedly, I did not install the GWX control panel program software that a
few had suggested, because I was a little leary of putting new software on
my computer without really knowing what I was doing.



Anyway, having spent far too many hours on this needlessly-created  issue so
far, I decided to call the Microsoft Accessibility Hotline for assistance.



It turns out that somehow, the "get windows 10" message, and associated
files had been installed on my computer in several different locations.  It
took the accessibility specialist a full hour to get everything properly
uninstalled and operating as it should.



I couldn't tell for sure, but I even think the accessibility specialist was
getting frustrated at several points.



I used this situation as an opportunity to let her know in no uncertain
terms that Microsoft is not making any friends among blind computer users
who are being harassed repeatedly with the "get windows 10" message, and
that I would hope this could somehow be taken into consideration.



I am sure, as someone else pointed out, this complaint and my situation will
not mean diddley to Microsoft.  But, I would urge anyone with this issue to
contact the Accessibility Hotline, rather than trying to go it alone with
only frustration as the end result.



At least, this is my suggestion at this time, based on my recent experience.



Dr.  Tom Behler from Michigan



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Re: [JAWS-Users] Update On "Get Windows 10" Saga

[Janie Degenshein]

1 800 936 5900

-Original Message- 
From: Gail the U.S. Male 
Sent: Monday, January 25, 2016 10:38 AM 
To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com 
Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] Update On "Get Windows 10" Saga 


What is the Microsoft accessability hotline phone number?

-Original Message-
From: JAWS-Users-List [mailto:jaws-users-list-boun...@jaws-users.com] On
Behalf Of Gerald Levy 
Sent: Monday, January 25, 2016 9:05 AM

To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] Update On "Get Windows 10" Saga


Just keep a very close eye on your computer to make sure that Windows 10
does not get installed surreptitiously.  It's bad enough that Microsoft in
general cannot be trusted, but based on your experience, even the agents who
man the special accessibility help line can't be trusted, either.

Gerald



-Original Message-
From: Annette Carr
Sent: Monday, January 25, 2016 9:20 AM
To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] Update On "Get Windows 10" Saga

I just got off of the phone with the Microsoft Accessibility support line.
I can't say that I am as happy as the rest of you have been with the
assistance I received.  Before beginning to remote into my computer, he
tried every way possible to convince me to let him install Windows10.  Maybe
he just did not understand English well.  I finally had to ask to speak to a
supervisor or manager, and he then agreed to do what I was asking.

When he was done, I asked him to review what he had done.  He told me that
he hid the Windows10 installation icon.  I asked how long will the icon stay
hidden and he said for a few days.  I told him that I wanted it removed
completely from my computer and he said that there is no way to do that, and
that I will be happier in a few days if I would call back and have them
install windows10 for me.

So on the positive side , I will not be annoyed by the Windows10 update
window for a few days.

Annette

-Original Message-
From: JAWS-Users-List [mailto:jaws-users-list-boun...@jaws-users.com] On
Behalf Of Tom Behler
Sent: Sunday, January 24, 2016 6:29 PM
To: Jaws users list
Subject: [JAWS-Users] Update On "Get Windows 10" Saga

Hello, everyone.



As I stated earlier, despite my best efforts, the "Get Windows 10" message
re-appeared on my home Windows 7 computer once again late this afternoon.



Admittedly, I did not install the GWX control panel program software that a
few had suggested, because I was a little leary of putting new software on
my computer without really knowing what I was doing.



Anyway, having spent far too many hours on this needlessly-created  issue so
far, I decided to call the Microsoft Accessibility Hotline for assistance.



It turns out that somehow, the "get windows 10" message, and associated
files had been installed on my computer in several different locations.  It
took the accessibility specialist a full hour to get everything properly
uninstalled and operating as it should.



I couldn't tell for sure, but I even think the accessibility specialist was
getting frustrated at several points.



I used this situation as an opportunity to let her know in no uncertain
terms that Microsoft is not making any friends among blind computer users
who are being harassed repeatedly with the "get windows 10" message, and
that I would hope this could somehow be taken into consideration.



I am sure, as someone else pointed out, this complaint and my situation will
not mean diddley to Microsoft.  But, I would urge anyone with this issue to
contact the Accessibility Hotline, rather than trying to go it alone with
only frustration as the end result.



At least, this is my suggestion at this time, based on my recent experience.



Dr.  Tom Behler from Michigan



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Keep Smiling,
Janie Degenshein
"Happiness isn't having what you want, but wanting what you already have"
Facilitator of ECHO
(Eyes Closed Hearts Open)
President, National Federation of the Blind of New Jersey Senior Division
President National Federation of the Blind of New Jersey Technology Division
NFBNJ newsline coordinator
jdege...@comcast.net

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Re: [JAWS-Users] Update On "Get Windows 10" Saga

[Tom Behler]

This is exactly why I continue to be so disturbed by this entire scenario.

I can assure you that if the "get windows 10" notification re-appears on my
computer, the Microsoft Accessibility Support line will get another call
from me, and I will not be happy.

I always teach my studednts and my children to choose their battles, but
this is a battle that I feel must be engaged in.

I find it totally un-acceptable not to have the complete and free choice of
whether or not to install an operating system, or any software program for
that matter.  And, to be constantly harassed if you do not is totally un
called-for.

Dr.  Tom Behler from Michigan


-Original Message-
From: JAWS-Users-List [mailto:jaws-users-list-boun...@jaws-users.com] On
Behalf Of Annette Carr
Sent: Monday, January 25, 2016 9:21 AM
To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] Update On "Get Windows 10" Saga

I just got off of the phone with the Microsoft Accessibility support line.
I can't say that I am as happy as the rest of you have been with the
assistance I received.  Before beginning to remote into my computer, he
tried every way possible to convince me to let him install Windows10.  Maybe
he just did not understand English well.  I finally had to ask to speak to a
supervisor or manager, and he then agreed to do what I was asking.

When he was done, I asked him to review what he had done.  He told me that
he hid the Windows10 installation icon.  I asked how long will the icon stay
hidden and he said for a few days.  I told him that I wanted it removed
completely from my computer and he said that there is no way to do that, and
that I will be happier in a few days if I would call back and have them
install windows10 for me.

So on the positive side , I will not be annoyed by the Windows10 update
window for a few days.

Annette

-Original Message-
From: JAWS-Users-List [mailto:jaws-users-list-boun...@jaws-users.com] On
Behalf Of Tom Behler
Sent: Sunday, January 24, 2016 6:29 PM
To: Jaws users list
Subject: [JAWS-Users] Update On "Get Windows 10" Saga

Hello, everyone.

 

As I stated earlier, despite my best efforts, the "Get Windows 10" message
re-appeared on my home Windows 7 computer once again late this afternoon.

 

Admittedly, I did not install the GWX control panel program software that a
few had suggested, because I was a little leary of putting new software on
my computer without really knowing what I was doing.

 

Anyway, having spent far too many hours on this needlessly-created  issue so
far, I decided to call the Microsoft Accessibility Hotline for assistance.

 

It turns out that somehow, the "get windows 10" message, and associated
files had been installed on my computer in several different locations.  It
took the accessibility specialist a full hour to get everything properly
uninstalled and operating as it should.

 

I couldn't tell for sure, but I even think the accessibility specialist was
getting frustrated at several points.

 

I used this situation as an opportunity to let her know in no uncertain
terms that Microsoft is not making any friends among blind computer users
who are being harassed repeatedly with the "get windows 10" message, and
that I would hope this could somehow be taken into consideration.

 

I am sure, as someone else pointed out, this complaint and my situation will
not mean diddley to Microsoft.  But, I would urge anyone with this issue to
contact the Accessibility Hotline, rather than trying to go it alone with
only frustration as the end result.

 

At least, this is my suggestion at this time, based on my recent experience.

 

Dr.  Tom Behler from Michigan

 

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Re: [JAWS-Users] update to copy, pasting and i.e. 11 using jfw 16

[Mike B.]

Yo Kimsan,

How do you think I came up with the restarting IE thought?!  Well, the 
obvious, I've done the same thing, many times!  LOL,  hahaha hahaha hahaha, 
LOL
Take care.
Mike
This email was sent from my, iBarstool.

- Original Message - 
From: Kimsan
To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
Sent: Sunday, March 15, 2015 1:23 PM
Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] update to copy, pasting and i.e. 11 using jfw 16


I might've done that after I switched it this morning, and how in the world
did I overlook something so obvious. Lol.

The obvious being, it will go in affect after relaunching...

-Original Message-
From: JAWS-Users-List [mailto:jaws-users-list-boun...@jaws-users.com] On
Behalf Of Mike B.
Sent: Sunday, March 15, 2015 12:32 PM
To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] update to copy, pasting and i.e. 11 using jfw 16

Hi Kimsan,

After you switched to copy from virtual cursor, did you close  restart IE?
If not, that might be why it's working now, that is, if you closed IE last
night  reopened it today  found it working.
Take care.
Mike
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- Original Message -
From: Kimsan
To: jaws-users
Sent: Sunday, March 15, 2015 12:05 PM
Subject: [JAWS-Users] update to copy, pasting and i.e. 11 using jfw 16


I give up lol.



So, an hour or so ago, I tried an option from another user which didn't
work, last night around 11 pacific standard is when all this began, but now,
it's working.  The strange thing is I didn't make any changes, accept the
virtual curser thing.  However, when I made that change before it didn't
work.  I'm all confused!

Thanks to all responses though.



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Re: [JAWS-Users] update to copy, pasting and i.e. 11 using jfw 16

[Mike B.]

Hi Kimsan,

After you switched to copy from virtual cursor, did you close  restart IE? 
If not, that might be why it's working now, that is, if you closed IE last 
night  reopened it today  found it working.
Take care.
Mike
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- Original Message - 
From: Kimsan
To: jaws-users
Sent: Sunday, March 15, 2015 12:05 PM
Subject: [JAWS-Users] update to copy, pasting and i.e. 11 using jfw 16


I give up lol.



So, an hour or so ago, I tried an option from another user which didn't
work, last night around 11 pacific standard is when all this began, but now,
it's working.  The strange thing is I didn't make any changes, accept the
virtual curser thing.  However, when I made that change before it didn't
work.  I'm all confused!

Thanks to all responses though.



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Re: [JAWS-Users] update to copy, pasting and i.e. 11 using jfw 16

[Kimsan]

I might've done that after I switched it this morning, and how in the world
did I overlook something so obvious. Lol.

The obvious being, it will go in affect after relaunching...

-Original Message-
From: JAWS-Users-List [mailto:jaws-users-list-boun...@jaws-users.com] On
Behalf Of Mike B.
Sent: Sunday, March 15, 2015 12:32 PM
To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] update to copy, pasting and i.e. 11 using jfw 16

Hi Kimsan,

After you switched to copy from virtual cursor, did you close  restart IE? 
If not, that might be why it's working now, that is, if you closed IE last
night  reopened it today  found it working.
Take care.
Mike
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- Original Message -
From: Kimsan
To: jaws-users
Sent: Sunday, March 15, 2015 12:05 PM
Subject: [JAWS-Users] update to copy, pasting and i.e. 11 using jfw 16


I give up lol.



So, an hour or so ago, I tried an option from another user which didn't
work, last night around 11 pacific standard is when all this began, but now,
it's working.  The strange thing is I didn't make any changes, accept the
virtual curser thing.  However, when I made that change before it didn't
work.  I'm all confused!

Thanks to all responses though.



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Re: [JAWS-Users] update to copy, pasting and i.e. 11 using jfw 16

[Kimsan]

Thanks buddy.
I'll remember to restart my brain when encountering a problem relating to
that for the future...
Haha haha haha.

-Original Message-
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Behalf Of Mike B.
Sent: Sunday, March 15, 2015 1:48 PM
To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] update to copy, pasting and i.e. 11 using jfw 16

Yo Kimsan,

How do you think I came up with the restarting IE thought?!  Well, the
obvious, I've done the same thing, many times!  LOL,  hahaha hahaha hahaha,
LOL Take care.
Mike
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- Original Message -
From: Kimsan
To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
Sent: Sunday, March 15, 2015 1:23 PM
Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] update to copy, pasting and i.e. 11 using jfw 16


I might've done that after I switched it this morning, and how in the world
did I overlook something so obvious. Lol.

The obvious being, it will go in affect after relaunching...

-Original Message-
From: JAWS-Users-List [mailto:jaws-users-list-boun...@jaws-users.com] On
Behalf Of Mike B.
Sent: Sunday, March 15, 2015 12:32 PM
To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] update to copy, pasting and i.e. 11 using jfw 16

Hi Kimsan,

After you switched to copy from virtual cursor, did you close  restart IE?
If not, that might be why it's working now, that is, if you closed IE last
night  reopened it today  found it working.
Take care.
Mike
This email was sent from my, iBarstool.

- Original Message -
From: Kimsan
To: jaws-users
Sent: Sunday, March 15, 2015 12:05 PM
Subject: [JAWS-Users] update to copy, pasting and i.e. 11 using jfw 16


I give up lol.



So, an hour or so ago, I tried an option from another user which didn't
work, last night around 11 pacific standard is when all this began, but now,
it's working.  The strange thing is I didn't make any changes, accept the
virtual curser thing.  However, when I made that change before it didn't
work.  I'm all confused!

Thanks to all responses though.



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Re: [JAWS-Users] update

[Lisle, Ted (CHFS DMS)]

But it won't suspend your count.  In other words, if 16 is your last current 
upgrade, you'll just lose it.  Besides, there's a lot to like in the 
here-and-now.

Ted

-Original Message-
From: JAWS-Users-List [mailto:jaws-users-list-boun...@jaws-users.com] On Behalf 
Of Mike B.
Sent: Wednesday, March 04, 2015 6:45 PM
To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] update

Hi Holger,

Yes, you should be able to do that.
Take care.
Mike
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- Original Message - 
From: Holger Fiallo
To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
Sent: Wednesday, March 04, 2015 2:56 PM
Subject: [JAWS-Users] update


Hi, all
Question. I have jaws 15, want to wait for jaws 17 which I hope will work 
with window 10. Can I go from jaws 15 to 17 without having to get jaws 16?

Holger Fiallo
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Re: [JAWS-Users] update

[Flor Lynch]

Hi,

It makes no difference (so far as getting the upgrade is concerned), whether 
you have JAWS active on your computer or not, so long as you in the past had 
purchased JAWS. Also, and precise details of this ought to be verified 
officially or by recourse to the pertinent or relevant links on the FS 
Website, although you don't pay the full price for the missing version, you 
do pay an increased 'premium' because of the extra version upgrae entailed, 
regardless of any SMA you might then pay for. )Rough example: Instead of 
paying $240 for an upgrade through two versions, the first of which you 
didn't buy, you will be paying $190/$200 for said upgrade, before the cost 
of a requested SMA would be added afterwards.


-Original Message- 
From: Mike Boyd

Sent: Thursday, March 05, 2015 3:59 AM
To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] update

You can upgrade your JAWS at any time as long as you have an active version
running on your computer, and you are still in the Freedom Scientific data
base as a current user. The upgradee will cost you the new price for the
version which you are running, plus the cost of the SMA if you choose to
purchase that as well.

Mike,
mike@comcast.net


-Original Message- 

From: Holger Fiallo

Sent: Wednesday, March 04, 2015 5:55 PM
To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] update

No. I do not have so, this is why I asked this question. I probably in
November will download the beta 17 and them get it when it comes along with
getting window 10 since it will be free for a year.

-Original Message- 

From: Kevin Lee

Sent: Wednesday, March 04, 2015 5:50 PM
To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] update

yes  go to about jaws under remaining upgrades if you have any number there
like 1  or more, all you need to do is get the jaws 17 demo install it
insert your jaws 15 authorization then remove jaws 15.

-Original Message- 

From: Holger Fiallo

Sent: Wednesday, March 04, 2015 2:56 PM
To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
Subject: [JAWS-Users] update

Hi, all
Question. I have jaws 15, want to wait for jaws 17 which I hope will work
with window 10. Can I go from jaws 15 to 17 without having to get jaws 16?

Holger Fiallo
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Re: [JAWS-Users] update

[Mike Boyd]

I have been using JAWS since Version 8, and an upgrade to the professional 
version has always cost me $200 if I upgraded from one version to the next, 
or if I upgraded through three versions. Then the cost of the SMA has always 
been another $200 on top of that, if I chose to purchase it as well. With 
the new pricing scheme, I an not sure what the new prices will be, but that 
it will be cheaper. I do not have to purchase again until Fall of 2016.


Mike,
mike@comcast.net


-Original Message- 
From: Flor Lynch

Sent: Thursday, March 05, 2015 7:28 PM
To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] update

Hi,

It makes no difference (so far as getting the upgrade is concerned), whether
you have JAWS active on your computer or not, so long as you in the past had
purchased JAWS. Also, and precise details of this ought to be verified
officially or by recourse to the pertinent or relevant links on the FS
Website, although you don't pay the full price for the missing version, you
do pay an increased 'premium' because of the extra version upgrae entailed,
regardless of any SMA you might then pay for. )Rough example: Instead of
paying $240 for an upgrade through two versions, the first of which you
didn't buy, you will be paying $190/$200 for said upgrade, before the cost
of a requested SMA would be added afterwards.

-Original Message- 
From: Mike Boyd

Sent: Thursday, March 05, 2015 3:59 AM
To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] update

You can upgrade your JAWS at any time as long as you have an active version
running on your computer, and you are still in the Freedom Scientific data
base as a current user. The upgradee will cost you the new price for the
version which you are running, plus the cost of the SMA if you choose to
purchase that as well.

Mike,
mike@comcast.net


-Original Message- 

From: Holger Fiallo

Sent: Wednesday, March 04, 2015 5:55 PM
To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] update

No. I do not have so, this is why I asked this question. I probably in
November will download the beta 17 and them get it when it comes along with
getting window 10 since it will be free for a year.

-Original Message- 

From: Kevin Lee

Sent: Wednesday, March 04, 2015 5:50 PM
To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] update

yes  go to about jaws under remaining upgrades if you have any number there
like 1  or more, all you need to do is get the jaws 17 demo install it
insert your jaws 15 authorization then remove jaws 15.

-Original Message- 

From: Holger Fiallo

Sent: Wednesday, March 04, 2015 2:56 PM
To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
Subject: [JAWS-Users] update

Hi, all
Question. I have jaws 15, want to wait for jaws 17 which I hope will work
with window 10. Can I go from jaws 15 to 17 without having to get jaws 16?

Holger Fiallo
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Re: [JAWS-Users] update

[David Ferrin]

Once again discussing economics is not for this list.

David Ferrin
A complex system that does not work is invariably found to have evolved from
a simpler system that worked perfectly.

-Original Message-
From: JAWS-Users-List [mailto:jaws-users-list-boun...@jaws-users.com] On
Behalf Of Mike Boyd
Sent: Thursday, March 05, 2015 8:55 PM
To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] update


I have been using JAWS since Version 8, and an upgrade to the professional
version has always cost me $200 if I upgraded from one version to the next,
or if I upgraded through three versions. Then the cost of the SMA has always
been another $200 on top of that, if I chose to purchase it as well. With
the new pricing scheme, I an not sure what the new prices will be, but that
it will be cheaper. I do not have to purchase again until Fall of 2016.

Mike,
mike@comcast.net


-Original Message-
From: Flor Lynch
Sent: Thursday, March 05, 2015 7:28 PM
To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] update

Hi,

It makes no difference (so far as getting the upgrade is concerned), whether
you have JAWS active on your computer or not, so long as you in the past had
purchased JAWS. Also, and precise details of this ought to be verified
officially or by recourse to the pertinent or relevant links on the FS
Website, although you don't pay the full price for the missing version, you
do pay an increased 'premium' because of the extra version upgrae entailed,
regardless of any SMA you might then pay for. )Rough example: Instead of
paying $240 for an upgrade through two versions, the first of which you
didn't buy, you will be paying $190/$200 for said upgrade, before the cost
of a requested SMA would be added afterwards.

-Original Message-
From: Mike Boyd
Sent: Thursday, March 05, 2015 3:59 AM
To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] update

You can upgrade your JAWS at any time as long as you have an active version
running on your computer, and you are still in the Freedom Scientific data
base as a current user. The upgradee will cost you the new price for the
version which you are running, plus the cost of the SMA if you choose to
purchase that as well.

Mike,
mike@comcast.net


-Original Message- 
From: Holger Fiallo
Sent: Wednesday, March 04, 2015 5:55 PM
To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] update

No. I do not have so, this is why I asked this question. I probably in
November will download the beta 17 and them get it when it comes along with
getting window 10 since it will be free for a year.

-Original Message- 
From: Kevin Lee
Sent: Wednesday, March 04, 2015 5:50 PM
To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] update

yes  go to about jaws under remaining upgrades if you have any number there
like 1  or more, all you need to do is get the jaws 17 demo install it
insert your jaws 15 authorization then remove jaws 15.

-Original Message- 
From: Holger Fiallo
Sent: Wednesday, March 04, 2015 2:56 PM
To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
Subject: [JAWS-Users] update

Hi, all
Question. I have jaws 15, want to wait for jaws 17 which I hope will work
with window 10. Can I go from jaws 15 to 17 without having to get jaws 16?

Holger Fiallo
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Re: [JAWS-Users] update

[Cristóbal]

I forgot to mention that up until the recent FS switch regarding standard and 
professional JFW versions, I've always run the Pro version which probably 
accounts to the higher cost I experienced.

-Original Message-
From: JAWS-Users-List [mailto:jaws-users-list-boun...@jaws-users.com] On Behalf 
Of Mike Boyd
Sent: Wednesday, March 04, 2015 8:42 PM
To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] update


I went from Version 8 to 13, and at the time, the price was $200 for the 
software, and $200 for the SMA, so the total was $400. The price is much 
cheaper now however, although I have not committed them to memory just yet, 
but both should cost you less than $300.

Mike
mike@comcast.net


-Original Message- 
From: Cristóbal
Sent: Wednesday, March 04, 2015 6:02 PM
To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] update

Of course you can upgrade. You'll just have to pay for the SMA if you're
out. I think once you're behind a couple of JFW releases though, then the
cost gets a bit prohibitive. I've always stayed current, so don’t' recall at
the moment what it would be. I think though, I went from JFW 8 to 11 and it
cost me something like $440.00.

-Original Message-
From: JAWS-Users-List [mailto:jaws-users-list-boun...@jaws-users.com] On
Behalf Of Holger Fiallo
Sent: Wednesday, March 04, 2015 3:55 PM
To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] update

No. I do not have so, this is why I asked this question. I probably in
November will download the beta 17 and them get it when it comes along with
getting window 10 since it will be free for a year.

-Original Message-
From: Kevin Lee
Sent: Wednesday, March 04, 2015 5:50 PM
To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] update

yes  go to about jaws under remaining upgrades if you have any number there
like 1  or more, all you need to do is get the jaws 17 demo install it
insert your jaws 15 authorization then remove jaws 15.

-Original Message-
From: Holger Fiallo
Sent: Wednesday, March 04, 2015 2:56 PM
To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
Subject: [JAWS-Users] update

Hi, all
Question. I have jaws 15, want to wait for jaws 17 which I hope will work
with window 10. Can I go from jaws 15 to 17 without having to get jaws 16?

Holger Fiallo
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Re: [JAWS-Users] update

[Mike B.]

Hi Holger,

Yes, you should be able to do that.
Take care.
Mike
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- Original Message - 
From: Holger Fiallo
To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
Sent: Wednesday, March 04, 2015 2:56 PM
Subject: [JAWS-Users] update


Hi, all
Question. I have jaws 15, want to wait for jaws 17 which I hope will work 
with window 10. Can I go from jaws 15 to 17 without having to get jaws 16?

Holger Fiallo
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Re: [JAWS-Users] update

[Holger Fiallo]

No. I do not have so, this is why I asked this question. I probably in 
November will download the beta 17 and them get it when it comes along with 
getting window 10 since it will be free for a year.


-Original Message- 
From: Kevin Lee

Sent: Wednesday, March 04, 2015 5:50 PM
To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] update

yes  go to about jaws under remaining upgrades if you have any number there
like 1  or more, all you need to do is get the jaws 17 demo install it
insert your jaws 15 authorization then remove jaws 15.

-Original Message- 
From: Holger Fiallo

Sent: Wednesday, March 04, 2015 2:56 PM
To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
Subject: [JAWS-Users] update

Hi, all
Question. I have jaws 15, want to wait for jaws 17 which I hope will work
with window 10. Can I go from jaws 15 to 17 without having to get jaws 16?

Holger Fiallo
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Re: [JAWS-Users] update

[Cristóbal]

Of course you can upgrade. You'll just have to pay for the SMA if you're
out. I think once you're behind a couple of JFW releases though, then the
cost gets a bit prohibitive. I've always stayed current, so don’t' recall at
the moment what it would be. I think though, I went from JFW 8 to 11 and it
cost me something like $440.00. 

-Original Message-
From: JAWS-Users-List [mailto:jaws-users-list-boun...@jaws-users.com] On
Behalf Of Holger Fiallo
Sent: Wednesday, March 04, 2015 3:55 PM
To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] update

No. I do not have so, this is why I asked this question. I probably in
November will download the beta 17 and them get it when it comes along with
getting window 10 since it will be free for a year.

-Original Message-
From: Kevin Lee
Sent: Wednesday, March 04, 2015 5:50 PM
To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] update

yes  go to about jaws under remaining upgrades if you have any number there
like 1  or more, all you need to do is get the jaws 17 demo install it
insert your jaws 15 authorization then remove jaws 15.

-Original Message-
From: Holger Fiallo
Sent: Wednesday, March 04, 2015 2:56 PM
To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
Subject: [JAWS-Users] update

Hi, all
Question. I have jaws 15, want to wait for jaws 17 which I hope will work
with window 10. Can I go from jaws 15 to 17 without having to get jaws 16?

Holger Fiallo
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Re: [JAWS-Users] update

[Kevin Lee]

yes  go to about jaws under remaining upgrades if you have any number there 
like 1  or more, all you need to do is get the jaws 17 demo install it 
insert your jaws 15 authorization then remove jaws 15.


-Original Message- 
From: Holger Fiallo

Sent: Wednesday, March 04, 2015 2:56 PM
To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
Subject: [JAWS-Users] update

Hi, all
Question. I have jaws 15, want to wait for jaws 17 which I hope will work 
with window 10. Can I go from jaws 15 to 17 without having to get jaws 16?


Holger Fiallo
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Re: [JAWS-Users] update

[Mike Boyd]

You can upgrade your JAWS at any time as long as you have an active version 
running on your computer, and you are still in the Freedom Scientific data 
base as a current user. The upgradee will cost you the new price for the 
version which you are running, plus the cost of the SMA if you choose to 
purchase that as well.


Mike
mike@comcast.net


-Original Message- 
From: Holger Fiallo

Sent: Wednesday, March 04, 2015 5:55 PM
To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] update

No. I do not have so, this is why I asked this question. I probably in
November will download the beta 17 and them get it when it comes along with
getting window 10 since it will be free for a year.

-Original Message- 
From: Kevin Lee

Sent: Wednesday, March 04, 2015 5:50 PM
To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] update

yes  go to about jaws under remaining upgrades if you have any number there
like 1  or more, all you need to do is get the jaws 17 demo install it
insert your jaws 15 authorization then remove jaws 15.

-Original Message- 
From: Holger Fiallo

Sent: Wednesday, March 04, 2015 2:56 PM
To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
Subject: [JAWS-Users] update

Hi, all
Question. I have jaws 15, want to wait for jaws 17 which I hope will work
with window 10. Can I go from jaws 15 to 17 without having to get jaws 16?

Holger Fiallo
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Re: [JAWS-Users] update

[Mike Boyd]

I went from Version 8 to 13, and at the time, the price was $200 for the 
software, and $200 for the SMA, so the total was $400. The price is much 
cheaper now however, although I have not committed them to memory just yet, 
but both should cost you less than $300.


Mike
mike@comcast.net


-Original Message- 
From: Cristóbal

Sent: Wednesday, March 04, 2015 6:02 PM
To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] update

Of course you can upgrade. You'll just have to pay for the SMA if you're
out. I think once you're behind a couple of JFW releases though, then the
cost gets a bit prohibitive. I've always stayed current, so don’t' recall at
the moment what it would be. I think though, I went from JFW 8 to 11 and it
cost me something like $440.00.

-Original Message-
From: JAWS-Users-List [mailto:jaws-users-list-boun...@jaws-users.com] On
Behalf Of Holger Fiallo
Sent: Wednesday, March 04, 2015 3:55 PM
To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] update

No. I do not have so, this is why I asked this question. I probably in
November will download the beta 17 and them get it when it comes along with
getting window 10 since it will be free for a year.

-Original Message-
From: Kevin Lee
Sent: Wednesday, March 04, 2015 5:50 PM
To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] update

yes  go to about jaws under remaining upgrades if you have any number there
like 1  or more, all you need to do is get the jaws 17 demo install it
insert your jaws 15 authorization then remove jaws 15.

-Original Message-
From: Holger Fiallo
Sent: Wednesday, March 04, 2015 2:56 PM
To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
Subject: [JAWS-Users] update

Hi, all
Question. I have jaws 15, want to wait for jaws 17 which I hope will work
with window 10. Can I go from jaws 15 to 17 without having to get jaws 16?

Holger Fiallo
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Re: [JAWS-Users] update

[Bob Edenhofer]

   You'll need to call Freedom scientific technical support about this.

-Original Message- 
From: Holger Fiallo

Sent: Friday, July 25, 2014 2:20 PM
To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
Subject: [JAWS-Users] update

When I want to check for updates, I get message there is an error with your 
internet connection unable to connect. MY connection is OK. I am able to 
email, and check the net. It is a jaws problem. How do I fix it?


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Re: [JAWS-Users] update in thunderbird

[Maria Campbell]

The update feature is in options under the advanced menu.


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Then the world will know peace.

On 3/3/2014 12:33 PM, anna vimini wrote:

Hi all using Thunderbird,
Under the help menu their use to be an update feature and now all of a 
sudden it is not their.

does anyone know where it went or am I just imagining it was there?
thanks in advance

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Re: [JAWS-Users] update on web link

[David Whitehead]

hello there;

well, I just tried the college link which you provided in the original
message,
when I enter on the men's sports link, I still get forms mode, and I'm not
taken to the men's  sports page.

jaws 15 IE11.


-Original Message-
From: JAWS-Users-List [mailto:jaws-users-list-boun...@jaws-users.com] On
Behalf Of Tom Clary
Sent: Friday, January 10, 2014 6:49 AM
To: jaws-users-list
Subject: [JAWS-Users] update on web link

 i asked for help yesterday, with many replies, about links not
openning like they did after a webpage had been updated. i contacted a
person at the college, who contacted the webpage design firm, and they
remedied the problem. thank all of you that replied

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Re: [JAWS-Users] update on web link

[Tom]

that happenned to me also, but as I've had to do for other links, for some 
reason, I can go back to mens sports, hit enter, and hit the applications 
key, then down to open in new window, and the list comes up


-Original Message- 
From: David Whitehead

Sent: Friday, January 10, 2014 6:49 AM
To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] update on web link

hello there;

well, I just tried the college link which you provided in the original
message,
when I enter on the men's sports link, I still get forms mode, and I'm not
taken to the men's  sports page.

jaws 15 IE11.


-Original Message-
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Behalf Of Tom Clary
Sent: Friday, January 10, 2014 6:49 AM
To: jaws-users-list
Subject: [JAWS-Users] update on web link

i asked for help yesterday, with many replies, about links not
openning like they did after a webpage had been updated. i contacted a
person at the college, who contacted the webpage design firm, and they
remedied the problem. thank all of you that replied

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Re: [JAWS-Users] update on web link

[simon wong]

What are they going to do to fix the problem

Sent from my iPhone

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 i asked for help yesterday, with many replies, about links not
 openning like they did after a webpage had been updated. i contacted a
 person at the college, who contacted the webpage design firm, and they
 remedied the problem. thank all of you that replied
 
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Re: [JAWS-Users] update on web link

[Tom]

well, they had to have done something, because yesterday, the steps I 
mentioned, didn't work, so I'll just go with the flow. I've found out that 
quite a lot of page designers, don't configure pages for screen readers


-Original Message- 
From: simon wong

Sent: Friday, January 10, 2014 7:12 AM
To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] update on web link

What are they going to do to fix the problem

Sent from my iPhone

On 2014-01-10, at 6:49 AM, Tom Clary tclar...@gmail.com wrote:


i asked for help yesterday, with many replies, about links not
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person at the college, who contacted the webpage design firm, and they
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Re: [JAWS-Users] update to my issue with the 32 bit version of the beta

[Mike O'Brien]

Hi

Don't know if this could be your problem, but when you go to the ENU folder,
open a script and compile it, it will be compiled by the version of JAWS
that is currently running and the JSB will be in the Enu folder for that
version.


-Original Message-
From: JAWS-Users-List [mailto:jaws-users-list-boun...@jaws-users.com] On
Behalf Of David Ferrin
Sent: Thursday, October 03, 2013 11:38
To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
Subject: [JAWS-Users] update to my issue with the 32 bit version of the beta

Check this out boys and girls, navigating to the ENU folder and opening the
JSS file in question resulted in the problem I previously mentioned. So I
tried opening the script manager by accessing it in the list of managers,
then doing a file open for the my extensions file and simply hitting control
S to save and compile it and everything is working properly. I have a number
of menued scripts along with some other functions ETC that like I said are
referenced from the my extensions file. One of them is very important in
helping me manage this list for approving messages which is quite useful
along with being a great time saver. 

 

That is so strange why the compile command wouldn't work opening the file
directly but opening it from the script manager And it worked fine.

 

Maybe I'll report this just because I can't be the only person who does this
kind of thing. 

David Ferrin
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Re: [JAWS-Users] update to my issue with the 32 bit version of the beta

[David Ferrin]

That's the point, when I opened it directly the compile didn't work. Only
when I opened the script manager first and then did file open did the
compile work. Just a strange oddity I suppose you could call it. 

David Ferrin
A complex system that does not work is invariably found to have evolved from
a simpler system that worked perfectly.
-Original Message-
From: JAWS-Users-List [mailto:jaws-users-list-boun...@jaws-users.com] On
Behalf Of Mike O'Brien
Sent: Thursday, October 03, 2013 12:55 PM
To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] update to my issue with the 32 bit version of the
beta

Hi

Don't know if this could be your problem, but when you go to the ENU folder,
open a script and compile it, it will be compiled by the version of JAWS
that is currently running and the JSB will be in the Enu folder for that
version.


-Original Message-
From: JAWS-Users-List [mailto:jaws-users-list-boun...@jaws-users.com] On
Behalf Of David Ferrin
Sent: Thursday, October 03, 2013 11:38
To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
Subject: [JAWS-Users] update to my issue with the 32 bit version of the beta

Check this out boys and girls, navigating to the ENU folder and opening the
JSS file in question resulted in the problem I previously mentioned. So I
tried opening the script manager by accessing it in the list of managers,
then doing a file open for the my extensions file and simply hitting control
S to save and compile it and everything is working properly. I have a number
of menued scripts along with some other functions ETC that like I said are
referenced from the my extensions file. One of them is very important in
helping me manage this list for approving messages which is quite useful
along with being a great time saver. 

 

That is so strange why the compile command wouldn't work opening the file
directly but opening it from the script manager And it worked fine.

 

Maybe I'll report this just because I can't be the only person who does this
kind of thing. 

David Ferrin
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Re: [JAWS-Users] update to my issue with the 32 bit version of the beta

[Mike O'Brien]

Hi

Well I just went to my JAWS 15 enu folder, selected a JSS file and pressed
enter to open it.  It might just be my personal settings, but the JSS file
opened in Notepad instead of script manager.  So of course I couldn't
compile it.  I'm running Windows 7 64 bit.


-Original Message-
From: JAWS-Users-List [mailto:jaws-users-list-boun...@jaws-users.com] On
Behalf Of David Ferrin
Sent: Thursday, October 03, 2013 01:41
To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] update to my issue with the 32 bit version of the
beta

That's the point, when I opened it directly the compile didn't work. Only
when I opened the script manager first and then did file open did the
compile work. Just a strange oddity I suppose you could call it. 

David Ferrin
A complex system that does not work is invariably found to have evolved from
a simpler system that worked perfectly.
-Original Message-
From: JAWS-Users-List [mailto:jaws-users-list-boun...@jaws-users.com] On
Behalf Of Mike O'Brien
Sent: Thursday, October 03, 2013 12:55 PM
To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] update to my issue with the 32 bit version of the
beta

Hi

Don't know if this could be your problem, but when you go to the ENU folder,
open a script and compile it, it will be compiled by the version of JAWS
that is currently running and the JSB will be in the Enu folder for that
version.


-Original Message-
From: JAWS-Users-List [mailto:jaws-users-list-boun...@jaws-users.com] On
Behalf Of David Ferrin
Sent: Thursday, October 03, 2013 11:38
To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
Subject: [JAWS-Users] update to my issue with the 32 bit version of the beta

Check this out boys and girls, navigating to the ENU folder and opening the
JSS file in question resulted in the problem I previously mentioned. So I
tried opening the script manager by accessing it in the list of managers,
then doing a file open for the my extensions file and simply hitting control
S to save and compile it and everything is working properly. I have a number
of menued scripts along with some other functions ETC that like I said are
referenced from the my extensions file. One of them is very important in
helping me manage this list for approving messages which is quite useful
along with being a great time saver. 

 

That is so strange why the compile command wouldn't work opening the file
directly but opening it from the script manager And it worked fine.

 

Maybe I'll report this just because I can't be the only person who does this
kind of thing. 

David Ferrin
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Re: [JAWS-Users] update to my issue with the 32 bit version of the beta

[David Ferrin]

Mine opened up in the script manager when I did it that way but the script
didn't compile like I said before. 

You need to change your file associations, try opening a JSS file from
within the script manager. With luck that will fix that minor issue.

David Ferrin
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a simpler system that worked perfectly.
-Original Message-
From: JAWS-Users-List [mailto:jaws-users-list-boun...@jaws-users.com] On
Behalf Of Mike O'Brien
Sent: Thursday, October 03, 2013 2:12 PM
To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] update to my issue with the 32 bit version of the
beta

Hi

Well I just went to my JAWS 15 enu folder, selected a JSS file and pressed
enter to open it.  It might just be my personal settings, but the JSS file
opened in Notepad instead of script manager.  So of course I couldn't
compile it.  I'm running Windows 7 64 bit.


-Original Message-
From: JAWS-Users-List [mailto:jaws-users-list-boun...@jaws-users.com] On
Behalf Of David Ferrin
Sent: Thursday, October 03, 2013 01:41
To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] update to my issue with the 32 bit version of the
beta

That's the point, when I opened it directly the compile didn't work. Only
when I opened the script manager first and then did file open did the
compile work. Just a strange oddity I suppose you could call it. 

David Ferrin
A complex system that does not work is invariably found to have evolved from
a simpler system that worked perfectly.
-Original Message-
From: JAWS-Users-List [mailto:jaws-users-list-boun...@jaws-users.com] On
Behalf Of Mike O'Brien
Sent: Thursday, October 03, 2013 12:55 PM
To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] update to my issue with the 32 bit version of the
beta

Hi

Don't know if this could be your problem, but when you go to the ENU folder,
open a script and compile it, it will be compiled by the version of JAWS
that is currently running and the JSB will be in the Enu folder for that
version.


-Original Message-
From: JAWS-Users-List [mailto:jaws-users-list-boun...@jaws-users.com] On
Behalf Of David Ferrin
Sent: Thursday, October 03, 2013 11:38
To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
Subject: [JAWS-Users] update to my issue with the 32 bit version of the beta

Check this out boys and girls, navigating to the ENU folder and opening the
JSS file in question resulted in the problem I previously mentioned. So I
tried opening the script manager by accessing it in the list of managers,
then doing a file open for the my extensions file and simply hitting control
S to save and compile it and everything is working properly. I have a number
of menued scripts along with some other functions ETC that like I said are
referenced from the my extensions file. One of them is very important in
helping me manage this list for approving messages which is quite useful
along with being a great time saver. 

 

That is so strange why the compile command wouldn't work opening the file
directly but opening it from the script manager And it worked fine.

 

Maybe I'll report this just because I can't be the only person who does this
kind of thing. 

David Ferrin
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Re: [JAWS-Users] Update

[Baracco, Andrew W]

This happened to me as well with the 6004 update, but I got notice of
the 6005 update as usual through the automatic update notification.

Andy


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Behalf Of Rose Combs
Sent: Monday, August 26, 2013 5:49 AM
To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] Update

This  was the first time I ever had problems updating from within Jaws
help menu.  I went to the site and downloaded but my update feature, as
of Sunday, Aug 25, said I had the latest version.  I always go through
that menu unless I have reason not to, but this is the first time it was
not showing the update.  I have it now, no problem just odd behavior.  


Rose Combs
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From: JAWS-Users-List [mailto:jaws-users-list-boun...@jaws-users.com] On
Behalf Of RJ
Sent: Friday, August 23, 2013 10:08 AM
To: Users
Subject: [JAWS-Users] Update

Those that couldn't get the update, try again, it now did work a few
minutes ago for me. But didn't yesterday.

Got it thru the Help menu.RJ
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Re: [JAWS-Users] Update to latest build of Jaws 14 strange issues

[Marek Durila]

Hi,
Downloading all JF isn't solution. Why download for example if I am
connected through mobile or 3g.
Why isn't published only the small package or all installer. The installer
of update isn't downloading all JF from the web only the update.


 
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From:   Bharat bharat...@outlook.com
To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com,
Date:   08/26/2013 04:00 AM
Subject:Re: [JAWS-Users] Update to latest build of Jaws 14  strange
issues
Sent by:JAWS-Users-List jaws-users-list-boun...@jaws-users.com



Dear Cher,

this too is a windows7 home premium 32bits machine. I so wish, all of
these files  were packaged as part of the jaws installer. Since if i
were not connected to theinternet, it might just have resulted in an error.

Thank you for your response!

with Regards,

Bharat.

On 8/26/2013 6:06 AM, Don  Cher Bosch wrote:
 Dear bharat,

 I got that message when installing the previous build of JFW on Win7 Home
 Premium 64 bit. I had never heard it before and was wondering if it was
 simply being spoken aloud for the first time or what. I'm one of those
who
 experienced a failed installation until I made sure all windows updates
and
 an updated display driver were installed.
 Cher



 -Original Message-
 From: JAWS-Users-List [mailto:jaws-users-list-boun...@jaws-users.com] On
 Behalf Of Bharat
 Sent: Sunday, August 25, 2013 12:46 PM
 To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
 Subject: [JAWS-Users

Re: [JAWS-Users] Update

[Rose Combs]

This  was the first time I ever had problems updating from within Jaws help
menu.  I went to the site and downloaded but my update feature, as of
Sunday, Aug 25, said I had the latest version.  I always go through that
menu unless I have reason not to, but this is the first time it was not
showing the update.  I have it now, no problem just odd behavior.  


Rose Combs
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From: JAWS-Users-List [mailto:jaws-users-list-boun...@jaws-users.com] On
Behalf Of RJ
Sent: Friday, August 23, 2013 10:08 AM
To: Users
Subject: [JAWS-Users] Update

Those that couldn't get the update, try again, it now did work a few minutes
ago for me. But didn't yesterday.

Got it thru the Help menu.RJ
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Re: [JAWS-Users] Update to latest build of Jaws 14

[Rose Combs]

Yes, first time but I went to FS  site and downloaded it from thee.  


Rose Combs
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Behalf Of Alana Jovanovski
Sent: Saturday, August 24, 2013 4:48 PM
To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
Subject: [JAWS-Users] Update to latest build of Jaws 14

Hi,

The latest build is not showing up when I check for updates or when I
restart my computer. Has anyone else experienced this?

Alana

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Re: [JAWS-Users] Update to latest build of Jaws 14 strange issues

[Don Cher Bosch]

Yes, Bharat. I was not connected to internet during the first install
effort, and I did get an error message which said three files could not be
installed- and JFW did not work at all- not even a little bit. I wanted to
wait to connect to the internet until I had JFW and anti-virus installed
first. The error message sounded like it was referring to the same files you
mentioned- but since all I had was Narrator to speak what was happening, I
did not get the spelling of the file names.

I have trained many students on JAWS and probably installed it hundreds of
times- and this error was totally new in my experience.

Cher

Cher


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From: JAWS-Users-List [mailto:jaws-users-list-boun...@jaws-users.com] On
Behalf Of Bharat
Sent: Sunday, August 25, 2013 9:43 PM
To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] Update to latest build of Jaws 14  strange issues

Dear Cher,

this too is a windows7 home premium 32bits machine. I so wish, all of 
these files  were packaged as part of the jaws installer. Since if i 
were not connected to theinternet, it might just have resulted in an error.

Thank you for your response!

with Regards,

Bharat.

On 8/26/2013 6:06 AM, Don  Cher Bosch wrote:
 Dear bharat,

 I got that message when installing the previous build of JFW on Win7 Home
 Premium 64 bit. I had never heard it before and was wondering if it was
 simply being spoken aloud for the first time or what. I'm one of those who
 experienced a failed installation until I made sure all windows updates
and
 an updated display driver were installed.
 Cher



 -Original Message-
 From: JAWS-Users-List [mailto:jaws-users-list-boun...@jaws-users.com] On
 Behalf Of Bharat
 Sent: Sunday, August 25, 2013 12:46 PM
 To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
 Subject: [JAWS-Users] Update to latest build of Jaws 14  strange issues

 Hi all,

 recently, which is today, i decided to install the latest update of JAWS
 14.6004. Strangely, the update hadn't been reflecting in y automatic or
 manual check for updates, so i had to manually download the same.

 after i downloaded it  tried to install it, the installer started
 downloading something. I virtualised the window  got the below message:

 Downloading vcredist2005_x86   it then installed the software. my
 question is, why did it have to download this component.  wht would
 have happened if i weren't  connected to the internet. would the
 installation have failed?

 Please suggest if anyone of you also faced this issue  the probable fix
 for avoiding this in future.

 I must mention here that, i am not really facing any issue but am just
 wondering, why JAWS would have needed to download this component 
 probablly more, since all i was doing was installing an update.

 thank you,

 bharat.

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Re: [JAWS-Users] Update to latest build of Jaws 14

[BlindLee55]

when i went to the freedom scientific  website and tried to download  the 
new jaws it saided after 29 percent that download was paused and i could not  
get it to resume ,does any one know why?
 
your friend  lee  

 
In a message dated 8/26/2013 8:56:17 A.M. Eastern Daylight Time,  
roseco...@q.com writes:

Yes,  first time but I went to FS  site and downloaded it from thee.   


Rose Combs
roseco...@q.com


-Original  Message-
From: JAWS-Users-List  [mailto:jaws-users-list-boun...@jaws-users.com] On
Behalf Of Alana  Jovanovski
Sent: Saturday, August 24, 2013 4:48 PM
To:  jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
Subject: [JAWS-Users] Update to latest build  of Jaws 14

Hi,

The latest build is not showing up when I check  for updates or when I
restart my computer. Has anyone else experienced  this?

Alana

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