Re: [lace] two lace books to sell
Just a recommendation for anyone interested in Flanders lace. When I decided last January, that I needed to own a copy of Tierisch Flandrisch, I found that all of the US dealers with whom I've done business had no copies left. I ended up ordering it from Barbara Fay in Germany, and paid a pretty high price for the book and especially for the shipping (5 Euros). The book is very nice, with patterns ranging from fairly easy to very complex and beautiful. It's not a book for beginners, however. I'll brag a little for one of my friends--here's a scan of a design from this book, beautifully worked by Darlene Ihrig. http://lace.lacefairy.com/Gallery/DarleneIhrig.html So, if Bev's copy is still available, I recommend that someone who's interested in Flanders lace should snap it up! Barbara Snoqualmie, WA USA -- Forwarded Message From: bevw [EMAIL PROTECTED] Reply-To: bevw [EMAIL PROTECTED] Date: Thu, 30 Aug 2007 11:56:03 -0700 To: Lace Arachne lace@arachne.com Subject: [lace] two lace books to sell Hi everyone I have two lace books to sell, to North American addresses. The postage will be too high otherwise. Kloeppeln in Tirol by Grete Golderer with 36 patterns on pricking card bound in, text German. and Tierisch Flandrisch by Inge Theuerkauf, interesting recent Flanders patterns and an exercise in grounds including a dozen variations of the Flanders ground. text German/English Contact me for prices and approx. postage. First come first served. -- Bev in Sooke BC (on beautiful Vancouver Island, west coast of Canada) - To unsubscribe send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] containing the line: unsubscribe lace [EMAIL PROTECTED] For help, write to [EMAIL PROTECTED] -- End of Forwarded Message - To unsubscribe send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] containing the line: unsubscribe lace [EMAIL PROTECTED] For help, write to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
[lace] David's Web Pages Updated
Some of you may recall the saga of the Old Tønder Lace that David in Ballarat started last January. For those who are new to the discussion, please take a look at: http://homepage.mac.com/bejoyce/OldLace/ I have been posting photos of his progress from time to time. There are two new photos for you to see, under the dates of June 3, 2007. http://homepage.mac.com/bejoyce/OldLace/david.html And for those who might be interested, some of David's additional photos that don't relate directly to the Old Tønder Lace project may be seen at: http://homepage.mac.com/bejoyce/OldLace/david3.html One fairly significant change (I'm learning as I go!), is that I've started putting thumbnails on the pages, instead of loading the pages down with huge images. The first page is still BIG, the second is a mix of thumbnails and big pictures (in a state of transition), and the third one is just thumbnails. Click on the small pictures to see BIG full images. Enjoy! Barbara Snoqualmie, WA USA - To unsubscribe send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] containing the line: unsubscribe lace [EMAIL PROTECTED] For help, write to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: [lace] lacing right this minute
I probably was lacing at the time, but I was lacing, not looking at the clock! ;-) I'm working on an octagonal medallion from the new Elwyn Kenn book. It's done top to bottom (not in pie-shaped wedges) and uses a gimp loop. I've never done one of those before, and it took some strict concentration this morning to get through that part, but I *think* I managed it. If/when it get done, I'll scan it and post a URL so you all can see it. Barbara Snoqualmie, WA USA - To unsubscribe send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] containing the line: unsubscribe lace [EMAIL PROTECTED] For help, write to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
[lace] Question about antique bobbins and spangles
Here's a question about antique bobbins and spangles: Over the years, I've accumulated (mostly on eBay) a few antique bone bobbins. They are 19th century, some by unknown makers, a few are by well-known makers (Bobbin Brown, etc.). Some of the spangles contain the original antique beads. I am inclined to want to use them, rather than just put them in a display case. In some cases, the spangles are big and bulky, in some cases, the wires holding the spangles are in danger of coming apart. Is it blasphemy to take the spangles apart, replace the wire in some, completely junk the spangles in some, and selectively rearrange and redistribute beads, and in some cases, put completey new beads on them? I find it difficult to make lace with big, floppy spangles. I want to use the bobbins, but don't want to destroy a bit of history. What do you think? Barbara Snoqualmie, WA USA - To unsubscribe send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] containing the line: unsubscribe lace [EMAIL PROTECTED] For help, write to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: [lace] Befriending
Devon wrote: How do other groups deal with the issue of keeping new members? The following comments relate exclusively to my EGA chapter, not my lace guild: My EGA chapter has just under 200 members, some of whom are local, others very far away. We have a monthly meeting followed by excellent programs. Some of the programs entail a needlework project for the group to stitch together, sometimes a lecture or slide show, sometimes a field trip to some attraction that would be of interest to the group. For those who are too far away to attend meetings, we sponsor Group Correspondence Courses which are created by EGA National for the members, plus we make directions for our program projects available to distant members. In addition we have several workshops per year in which we bring in outstanding teachers. And we have a stitching getaway weekend each year the weekend before Thanksgiving--this alone brings in members! I am membership chairman for this group, and I attend almost all of the meetings. I keep an eye out for an unfamiliar face, and do my best to make the newcomer feel welcome. Barbara Whose first love was needlework, but who has been having a passionate affair with bobbin lace for the last 6 years! - To unsubscribe send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] containing the line: unsubscribe lace [EMAIL PROTECTED] For help, write to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: [lace] [bobbinlace] Re: Tear drop pattern - revised
A slight correction appears to be needed in the URL below. Try this one: http://www.tat-man.net/bobbinlace/BLteardrop.pdf Barbara As suggested to me by Bev, I revised the text and diagram of the pattern. I hope that it is closer to a more complete pattern. I just replaced the pattern so the link will still work: http://www.tat-man.net/bobbinlace/Blteardrop.pdf Thanks, Mark, aka Tatman Www.tat-man.net Yahoo! Groups Links * To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/bobbinlace/ * Your email settings: Individual Email | Traditional * To change settings online go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/bobbinlace/join (Yahoo! ID required) * To change settings via email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] * To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] * Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/ - To unsubscribe send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] containing the line: unsubscribe lace [EMAIL PROTECTED] For help, write to [EMAIL PROTECTED] - To unsubscribe send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] containing the line: unsubscribe lace [EMAIL PROTECTED] For help, write to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: [lace] how do you find a club?
Do any of your groups belong to a larger center that provides meeting and storage space? As real estate is at a premium in most areas, the thought has always intrigued me...something similar to the Textile Arts Center in Minnesota. Lacemakers of Puget Sound does rent a meeting space and storage space for our library from the city where we meet (Kent, WA). It is very nice to be able to do so, but alas, the cost is very high. Our normal income from dues and an occasional raffle do not meet our yearly expenses of rent and newsletter publication and delivery. We deal with that by holding a conference every few years. Historically, I am told, we make enough profit to be able to help defray the normal costs of the guild and also sponsor some workshops, so that the cost to members is reduced. On another note, I had read a post from Shere'e previously and invited her to visit us once again. It was our group that turned her off (before I moved to the Pacific Northwest). While I cannot condone the experience she relates, I do wish she would give the guild another opportunity to show her what we have to offer. Shere'e, how about it?!?! Barbara Snoqualmie, WA USA - To unsubscribe send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] containing the line: unsubscribe lace [EMAIL PROTECTED] For help, write to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: [lace] how do you find a club?
Oh, good heavens, no! Although I attended only a couple of TerraPins meetings before I moved from Maryland to the Seattle area, I had a lovely time meeting all the sweet ladies there. No, all of the comments in my post referred to Lacemakers of Puget Sound, my current group, also made up of wonderful people (including a few men!). That's why I was so disappointed when Shere'e reported an unfortunate experience with LPS, and why I encouraged her to give us another try. (My comment before I moved . . . was meant to absolve me of any guilt for her bad experience--the incident she reported happened before I moved here.) Barbara Snoqualmie, WA USA Barbara! Horrors! The group that was _your_ group before you moved to the Pacific Northwest was _our_ group. Surely you couldn't have meant the TerraPins (Baltimore area) or the CRLG (regional), all of whom are the most hospitable people on earth (and P.S., the TerraPins meet on the first Thursday of every month at the Fairland Library (near Silver Spring MD) and the thing we love best in the world, next to making Torchon lace, is...welcoming people! -- Aurelia Do any of your groups belong to a larger center that provides meeting and storage space? As real estate is at a premium in most areas, the thought has always intrigued me...something similar to the Textile Arts Center in Minnesota. Lacemakers of Puget Sound does rent a meeting space and storage space for our library from the city where we meet (Kent, WA). It is very nice to be able to do so, but alas, the cost is very high. Our normal income from dues and an occasional raffle do not meet our yearly expenses of rent and newsletter publication and delivery. We deal with that by holding a conference every few years. Historically, I am told, we make enough profit to be able to help defray the normal costs of the guild and also sponsor some workshops, so that the cost to members is reduced. On another note, I had read a post from Shere'e previously and invited her to visit us once again. It was our group that turned her off (before I moved to the Pacific Northwest). While I cannot condone the experience she relates, I do wish she would give the guild another opportunity to show her what we have to offer. Shere'e, how about it?!?! Barbara Snoqualmie, WA USA - To unsubscribe send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] containing the line: unsubscribe lace [EMAIL PROTECTED] For help, write to [EMAIL PROTECTED] - To unsubscribe send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] containing the line: unsubscribe lace [EMAIL PROTECTED] For help, write to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
[lace] Tønder catalog? Danish help, please.
A friend just sent me this URL, but sadly, neither of us can understand Danish--at least, I think it's Danish. http://tinyurl.com/2xgwlr We would like to know if this catalog contains Tønder prickings (and working diagrams), whether it can be viewed online, downloaded (even if there's a fee involved), and most especially whether the patterns can be ordered and sent to the US, and ideally paid for with a credit card. We would be grateful for help from anyone who can answer these questions for us! Thanks! Barbara Snoqualmie, WA USA - To unsubscribe send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] containing the line: unsubscribe lace [EMAIL PROTECTED] For help, write to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: [lace] Tønder catalog? Danish help, please.
Dear Birgitte, Thank you so much! It is a pleasure to view the catalog, and there's even an email address at the end. Thank you! Barbara Hi Barbara The catalog contains pictures and prices of Tønder lace, you can download the catalog from here http://tunegarn.dk/Kataloger/Tonder%20Katalog1-2udg%20TG.pdf You can order the patterns in the webshop, and she takes visa. Best regards Birgitte Citat Barbara Joyce [EMAIL PROTECTED]: A friend just sent me this URL, but sadly, neither of us can understand Danish--at least, I think it's Danish. http://tinyurl.com/2xgwlr We would like to know if this catalog contains Tønder prickings (and working diagrams), whether it can be viewed online, downloaded (even if there's a fee involved), and most especially whether the patterns can be ordered and sent to the US, and ideally paid for with a credit card. We would be grateful for help from anyone who can answer these questions for us! Thanks! Barbara Snoqualmie, WA USA - To unsubscribe send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] containing the line: unsubscribe lace [EMAIL PROTECTED] For help, write to [EMAIL PROTECTED] - To unsubscribe send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] containing the line: unsubscribe lace [EMAIL PROTECTED] For help, write to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
[lace] David's Web Pages Updated
Some of you may recall the saga of the Old Tønder Lace that David in Ballarat started last January. For those who are new to the discussion, please take a look at: http://homepage.mac.com/bejoyce/OldLace/ I have been posting photos of his progress from time to time. There are five new photos for you to see, under the dates of May 7, 2007 and April 10, 2007. For those with high-speed connections, you may view David's lace at: http://homepage.mac.com/bejoyce/OldLace/david.html For those with slower connections, you may prefer to view: http://homepage.mac.com/bejoyce/OldLace/david2.html This page is identical to the previous one, but with much smaller images. And for those who might be interested, some of David's additional photos that don't relate directly to the Old Tønder Lace project may be seen at: http://homepage.mac.com/bejoyce/OldLace/david3.html Enjoy! Barbara Snoqualmie, WA USA - To unsubscribe send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] containing the line: unsubscribe lace [EMAIL PROTECTED] For help, write to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: [lace] Unpleasantly innacurate seller on eBay
Jean, you're too charitable. Another way to look at the situation is that the seller is hoping to attract more buyers by saying bobbin lace rather than machine-made lace, and Irish crochet rather than chemical lace. Or to put it another way, she is misleading unsuspecting potential buyers into thinking they are getting hand-made lace. Barbara Snoqualmie, WA USA If it was on sale in the UK, you could quote the Sale of Goods Act, which states that goods must be of merchantable quality, fit for the purpose and as described. This applies to private sellers as well as trade, and the seller couldbe prosecuted for misdescription. The Trades Description Act applies only to those selling as a business. I really don't understand these people who get shirty when errors in descriptions are pointed out, because the original wrong description isn't targeting the right buyers and they could be losing out. By getting the title and description correct, the right buyers are attracted. Jean in Poole, Dorset, UK - To unsubscribe send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] containing the line: unsubscribe lace [EMAIL PROTECTED] For help, write to [EMAIL PROTECTED] - To unsubscribe send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] containing the line: unsubscribe lace [EMAIL PROTECTED] For help, write to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: [lace] Re: pineapple lace on ebay
Brenda, I've never heard the term bobbinet lace. A Google search yields sparse information, but I gather it's a machine-made lace. Can you give any additional details? Thanks, Barbara Snoqualmie, WA USA PS--Darn it, so far I haven't gotten a response from the seller--snippy or otherwise. It's now described as bobbinet lace - which it isn't either! Brenda - To unsubscribe send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] containing the line: unsubscribe lace [EMAIL PROTECTED] For help, write to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: [lace] unpleasantly innacurate seller on eBay
Oh, how delicious! I succumbed to the temptation and wrote to her, too! Like Clay, I sent a very polite and informative message; I just cannot wait to hear her response. I'll bet it's even nastier this time than the one Clay got! :-) Barbara Snoqualmie, WA USA Response from morrigan50 morrigan50( 2590) Positive feedback:99.6% Member since:Nov-15-99 Location:IL, United States Registered on:www.ebay.com Item: Antique Vintage Unusual Ivory Pineapple Bobbin Lace (330115668540) This message was sent while the listing was active. morrigan50 is the seller. She's not my lacemaker. Frankly, if you have nothing better to do than get bent out of shape over an Ebay ad and send snobbish emails to me, you need to get a life! Go make some lace or bother someone else, you pest! The other day, I noticed a bit of lace on eBay (330115668540) which was described as bobbin lace. I politely wrote to the seller and explained that I was a lacemaker, and that it was clear to me that the lace they were offering was not hand-made, but was machine made. In response, I received an email which quoted a lacemaker as saying that even though machine made laces are not handmade, they are still vintage. OK, I have no problem with that, but when I responded that his/her lacemaker was not referring to bobbin-lace, s/he got ugly!! I got the following email: She's not my lacemaker. Frankly, if you have nothing better to do than get bent out of shape over an Ebay ad and send snobbish emails to me, you need to get a life! Go make some lace or bother someone else, you pest! Well, it seems that the sellers on eBay have waded out of a deeper end of the gene pool!!! Beware!! This seller, for sure, is not interested in the facts, and just wants to expoit the term, bobbin lace. (So what else is new?) I've reported him/her to eBay, for whatever good that will do. Clay Clay Blackwell Lynchburg, VA, USA - To unsubscribe send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] containing the line: unsubscribe lace [EMAIL PROTECTED] For help, write to [EMAIL PROTECTED] - To unsubscribe send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] containing the line: unsubscribe lace [EMAIL PROTECTED] For help, write to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: [lace] More copyright questions
I have no knowledge of UK law, and for that matter, I'm not a lawyer, so technically I'm not an authority on US law, either. Nevertheless, I am quite confident that in the US, it is perfectly legal to purchase a copyright item, use it, and then resell the original. That is, provided you haven't made and kept photocopies. If you made a personal working copy while using it, and then destroyed all photocopies, you could resell the original. The easiest rule of thumb is that the author received payment for one copy, and as long as only one copy exists, the original can be sold and resold. I do agree with Vivien that it is illegal to make copies and give them away or sell them. Barbara Snoqualmie, WA USA Vivien wrote: Hi, we are one of the biggest designers of Torchon lace patterns. They are, in English law, copy right. You may not copy at all without our permission. We tell our customer we don't mind them copying the bought copy for their own use. It is illegal to copy and give away copies and it is illegal to sell the original after you have finished with it. All this I got from our solicitor who assures me this is the law in England. I am disgusted when groups buy a pattern to copy for their group. It is stealing. You are allowed to make copies for your *own personal use* - ie one to make the pricking from and one to doodle on, perhaps you want to experiment with different colours, or maybe you want to enlarge or reduce the scale and use a finer or thicker thread. More than that is illegal. A while ago there was outrage on a family history email group because someone had bought a CD of (I think) parish register transcriptions. He'd noted any that were of interest to him and now wanted to pass on the CD to someone else but was told in no uncertain terms by several others on the group that that would be infringing copyright. Those transcriptions were in the form of .pdf files. If they had been printed on paper in a book and he'd copied out the info that was of interest to him and then sold the book as second-hand would the same restrictions have applied? Do those restrictions apply to lace patterns printed in books? There are thousands of second-hand lace books around and many have copyright patterns printed in them. Brenda in Allhallows, Kent http://paternoster.orpheusweb.co.uk/index.html - To unsubscribe send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] containing the line: unsubscribe lace [EMAIL PROTECTED] For help, write to [EMAIL PROTECTED] - To unsubscribe send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] containing the line: unsubscribe lace [EMAIL PROTECTED] For help, write to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
[lace] Lace - Tonder/Bucks
Gunvor Jorgensen distributed a page to the students in her classes that summarizes some of the technical differences between Tønder and Bucks. I am always cognizant of copyright issues, and would not normally post something that was produced by another person. However, in view of the fact that this page bears no copyright message, combined with Gunvor's love of Tønder lace and her willingness to share her knowledge with us, what would you think if I scanned the page and put it on my web site as a .pdf? That way, anyone who is interested could view, download and print the information. Does anyone see a problem with this plan? Barbara Snoqualmie, WA USA Good morning spiders, As a very keen Bucks Point lace maker I was looking at some lace sites to study various types of lace and have been completely perplexed as to the difference between Bucks Point and Tonder, to me they look identical can anyone point me in the right direction as to the differences if any? Sue M Harvey Norfolk UK - To unsubscribe send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] containing the line: unsubscribe lace [EMAIL PROTECTED] For help, write to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: [lace] Lace - Tonder/Bucks
I'm not aware that Gunvor wrote any books. If I'm mistaken, please let me know titles, availability, etc. Thanks, Barbara I think it might encourage more sales of her books. Kate Henry Lowell Indiana USA - Original Message - From: Barbara Joyce [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: lace@arachne.com Sent: Wednesday, April 04, 2007 12:53 PM Subject: [lace] Lace - Tonder/Bucks Gunvor Jorgensen distributed a page to the students in her classes that summarizes some of the technical differences between Tønder and Bucks. I am always cognizant of copyright issues, and would not normally post something that was produced by another person. However, in view of the fact that this page bears no copyright message, combined with Gunvor's love of Tønder lace and her willingness to share her knowledge with us, what would you think if I scanned the page and put it on my web site as a .pdf? That way, anyone who is interested could view, download and print the information. Does anyone see a problem with this plan? Barbara Snoqualmie, WA USA Good morning spiders, As a very keen Bucks Point lace maker I was looking at some lace sites to study various types of lace and have been completely perplexed as to the difference between Bucks Point and Tonder, to me they look identical can anyone point me in the right direction as to the differences if any? Sue M Harvey Norfolk UK - To unsubscribe send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] containing the line: unsubscribe lace [EMAIL PROTECTED] For help, write to [EMAIL PROTECTED] - To unsubscribe send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] containing the line: unsubscribe lace [EMAIL PROTECTED] For help, write to [EMAIL PROTECTED] - To unsubscribe send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] containing the line: unsubscribe lace [EMAIL PROTECTED] For help, write to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: [lace] exhibition
Oh and your pictures are quite racey G. I didn't see any of David's pictures. Did I miss seeing a link? I can only imagine exactly how David's rendition of this fungus is going to be superimposed over a drawing of a male nude! Yikes! Barbara Snoqualmie, WA USA - To unsubscribe send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] containing the line: unsubscribe lace [EMAIL PROTECTED] For help, write to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: [lace] Hedgehog
Tiggy: Mrs. Tiggywinkle is a hedgehog, and our beloved mascot, who lives with her lace-making owner in Bainbridge Island, WA. Miss Tiggy now has a pal, Fuzzy-peg. I live reasonably near Bainbridge Island, WA. Can anyone tell me who Tiggy's owner is? I wonder if I know her! Barbara Snoqualmie, WA USA - To unsubscribe send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] containing the line: unsubscribe lace [EMAIL PROTECTED] For help, write to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: [lace] Washing and mangling linen lace
I don't think so. Drinking water, depending on the labeling, can be nothing more than purified city water--such as City of Miami, Florida, drinking water. Bleagh! Sometimes it's spring water, better tasting, but still may have some minerals in it that wouldn't be good for Susan's purpose. However, if the jug says distilled water then it will have no minerals in it and can be used for the purpose she wishes. It should be available at a grocery store, drug store, or even possibly a hardware store. Barbara Snoqualmie, WA USA On 3/14/07, Susan Lambiris [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: despite being good to drink. Where would American Arachnids recommend I look for distilled water? Also, since all my pins were stainless steel or nickle-plated, would it be How about a jug of drinking water from the grocery store? - To unsubscribe send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] containing the line: unsubscribe lace [EMAIL PROTECTED] For help, write to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
[lace] Misinformation
Gentle Spiders, It has come to my attention that someone on the list (the identity of that person is unknown to me) has been discussing one of my recent posts with others, and has seriously misquoted what I said. I have been able to set the record straight with the one person who contacted me to question what she had been told, but heaven only knows how many other people were exposed to the same misinformation. I have decided to be charitable and believe that whoever made the misstatements was simply being careless and was not intentionally trying to make me appear ignorant. But please, dear friends, if you feel the need to ³gossip² about posts others have made, at least get the facts correct. Thank you, Barbara Snoqualmie, WA USA - To unsubscribe send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] containing the line: unsubscribe lace [EMAIL PROTECTED] For help, write to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: [lace] quiet list, and silk thread
Hi Alice, How about Trebizond silk? I would be happy to send you a sample if that would help. Barbara Snoqualmie, WA USA On Saturday, March 03, 2007, at 07:52PM, Alice Howell [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Very quiet today. I was about to send a test message when the others came through. I thought maybe Majordomo was having a problem. I guess everyone is just busy elsewhere. I am mending a Maltese silk collar. I need some silk for replacement of a missing section. The silk used was fairly thick, 3-4 times thicker than Guitermann 100/3, and with a loose twist. I have very few silk threads, other than the 100/3. Can anyone suggest a brand for me to check out? This thread was either boiled, or the collar has been washed. The silk is shiny. I can double or triple the thread when I use it, so size is less important than the look and feel, but a thicker thread would be preferred. Any ideas? Thanks, Alice in Oregon -- on a record breaking 26 straight days with rainfall, though the sun came out today. - To unsubscribe send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] containing the line: unsubscribe lace [EMAIL PROTECTED] For help, write to [EMAIL PROTECTED] - To unsubscribe send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] containing the line: unsubscribe lace [EMAIL PROTECTED] For help, write to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
[lace] Posting for David
Hi Everyone, David Collyer is still away on his month-long trip, and he sent me this message and asked me to post it for him. So here it is: Have finally managed to check my email in between monsoon storms. Could you please pass this message onto Arachne? While I'm away I've made a lovely piece of Bayeux lace which required 140 pairs (have no idea what the x-ray machine at the airport would have thought of 100 or so BONE bobbins!!). IN the process I ran out of my large safety pin type bobbin holders and in desperation remembered Noelene's shoelace method. I only had a very long shoelace and it worked a treat, holding more than 50 pairs. However, It was rather thick and furry and some of the smaller spangles proved difficult to slide along it. I have been thinking and reckon that when I get home I'm going to try something like that plastic coated electric wire. David in Burrell Creek -Outback NT - To unsubscribe send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] containing the line: unsubscribe lace [EMAIL PROTECTED] For help, write to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: [lace] New Ulrike Voelcker book
Can anyone tell me about Mechlin Lace? Specifically how does its construction differ from other point ground laces, such as Bucks, Chantilly and Tønder? The lace looks to me somewhat like other point ground laces, but the web site that shows a couple of close-ups pf the new book shows a pricking that looks different to me from what I'm used to seeing. It almost looks as though there's ring pair around the flower motifs, reminiscent of Flanders. http://www.kloeppelbuch.de/shop/product_info.php?products_id=649SESS=862676 ab696c49640562facd1d08a659 OR http://tinyurl.com/28m6p9 Thanks for any information that will help me decide I need this book! Barbara Snoqualmie, WA USA - To unsubscribe send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] containing the line: unsubscribe lace [EMAIL PROTECTED] For help, write to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
[lace] Update on David's Tønder Lace pages
David sent me a couple of new scans of his progress before he left on his current trip. It's taken me a while to get around to posting these pictures, for which I apologize! Also, Christine sent a scan of a page from a booklet which shows the complete headside corner, not previously shown in any of the scans. So here are the URL's: To see Christine's new scan, http://homepage.mac.com/bejoyce/OldLace/ And scroll down to update To see David's progress, for those with high-speen connections, http://homepage.mac.com/bejoyce/OldLace/david.html And for David's progress, the same information with smaller images, for those with slower connections: http://homepage.mac.com/bejoyce/OldLace/david2.html Enjoy! Barbara Snoqualmie, WA USA - To unsubscribe send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] containing the line: unsubscribe lace [EMAIL PROTECTED] For help, write to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: [lace] spangles for embroidery or lace
Beth, I think what you're looking for is paillettes. I give you my enthusiastic recommendation for Denise Davis at Threadneedle Street, in Issaquah, WA. She is a one-woman phenomenon and will be able to fill your order with skill and speed. Here's the web page for her shop with the specific item you're looking for, in various sizes and your choice of gold or silver. Scroll down past the buttons and beads to spangles or paillettes. http://www.threadneedlestreet.com/buttons.htm Denise does mail-order worldwide, takes credit cards, and her shipping costs are very reasonable. Usual disclaimer--just a satisfied customer, Barbara Gentle Spiders, While you're looking for lianna threads, it got me to thinking that you're the great resource I need to tap... For the reproduction renaissance lace I'm doing (have to restart, but that's another story), spangles were used to embellish the lace. From the photos I've seen, they look just like the little gold discs that are used in embroideries from India or Thailand (there are probably others). Since goldwork emboridery has never been very common in the U.S., local craft/hobby shops don't stock them. So, do any of you know of specific sources where I could order them? I did try a Google search - but little gold discs isn't excactly specific enough. ;-) (I did search spangles) Since this would probably be an international order for me, I'd rather order from a known entity - thus my plea for a recommendation from you. Thanks! One of these days I'll have a photo of something lacey. Beth McCasland in the suburbs of New Orleans, Louisiana, USA where it's warm sunny, spring-like weather. - To unsubscribe send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] containing the line: unsubscribe lace [EMAIL PROTECTED] For help, write to [EMAIL PROTECTED] - To unsubscribe send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] containing the line: unsubscribe lace [EMAIL PROTECTED] For help, write to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
[lace] Re: What are you working on?
I've certainly taken leave of my senses, and started on my first Binche piece (other than little samples), Campanula, designed by Kumiko Nakazaki, from her Collection 1. It has become an addiction--I don't want to do anything else, except maybe sleep and eat! Here's a scan of my currrent progress, about halfway done (the harder half!). http://homepage.mac.com/bejoyce/campanula.jpg I have a lovely little Tønder edging on my travel pillow, and a few dormant projects--2 Milanese and 1 Honiton, that I still think I'll finish some day. Barbara Snoqualmie, WA USA - To unsubscribe send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] containing the line: unsubscribe lace [EMAIL PROTECTED] For help, write to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: [lace] blog
Sof, thank you so much for posting that URL. Although I couldn't make out most of the text, the pictures are wonderful, AND . . . There is a drawing of Point de Raccroc, which is the technique for joining strips of Chantilly lace together invisibly. I knew only that it was done with two threaded needles, and had no idea past that. The picture makes it very clear. I may never actually need to use the technique, but it is so satisfying to understand how it's done. Merci bien, Barbara Snoqualmie, WA USA Hello, A lace blog : http://blog.seniorennet.be/kantklossen/archief.php?ID=13 in flammisch dentellez bien Sof from France with sun - To unsubscribe send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] containing the line: unsubscribe lace [EMAIL PROTECTED] For help, write to [EMAIL PROTECTED] - To unsubscribe send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] containing the line: unsubscribe lace [EMAIL PROTECTED] For help, write to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
[lace] David's Old Tønder Lace
There's an update on David's page. URLs below. David, please tell us about what looks like a piece of clear plastic over some of the bobbins in the first photo. What is its purpose? Thanks, Barbara Snoqualmie, WA USA David's lace-large format photos for fast connections: http://homepage.mac.com/bejoyce/OldLace/david.html David's lace-small format photos for slower connections: http://homepage.mac.com/bejoyce/OldLace/david2.html Original discussion page: http://homepage.mac.com/bejoyce/OldLace/ - To unsubscribe send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] containing the line: unsubscribe lace [EMAIL PROTECTED] For help, write to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
RE: [lace] bobbin holders and bags - Short
Thank you, Noelene, for that suggestion! I've purchased a couple of pairs of 27 long shoelaces, and tried them out. They are wonderful! It's a little scary seeing all those bobbins and threads jumbled together, and kind of amazing when you untie the bow and straighten the shoelace to see all the bobbins lined up perfectly on the pillow. The thing I like best about this method is that you can remove bobbins from either end of the shoelace, then just tie it back up and place it out of the way again. Now if I could just fine something as easy, quick and versatile for my continental bobbins! Barbara Snoqualmie, WA USA RE: [lace] bobbin holders and bags - Short Noelene Lafferty Thu, 25 Jan 2007 13:22:52 -0800 So far no-one seems to have mentioned my favourite bobbin holder for my spangled bobbins - shoe laces. They have a little bit of metal or plastic crimped to each end, making them easy to thread through the spangles. The bundles can be piled one on top of the other, bobbins can be pulled off either end, etc., etc. The only trouble these days, with the preponderance of sneakers, is finding short shoe laces. I've been forced to buy long sneaker laces, cut them in half, and tie an overhand knot on the raw end. Noelene in Cooma - To unsubscribe send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] containing the line: unsubscribe lace [EMAIL PROTECTED] For help, write to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
[lace] David's progress-Tønder
An update to David's Tønder page. Original discussion: http://homepage.mac.com/bejoyce/OldLace/ David's lace with large images: http://homepage.mac.com/bejoyce/OldLace/david.html Same page with small images: http://homepage.mac.com/bejoyce/OldLace/david2.html Enjoy! Barbara Snoqualmie, WA USA - To unsubscribe send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] containing the line: unsubscribe lace [EMAIL PROTECTED] For help, write to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
[lace] Update on David's Tønder lace-smaller images
I've had a request for smaller images for those with dial-up connections. Rather than remove the large images, I've made an alternate page. You can access either from the original page http://homepage.mac.com/bejoyce/OldLace/ Or go straight to David's page, Large images: http://homepage.mac.com/bejoyce/OldLace/david.html Small images: http://homepage.mac.com/bejoyce/OldLace/david2.html Enjoy! Barbara Snoqualmie, WA USA - To unsubscribe send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] containing the line: unsubscribe lace [EMAIL PROTECTED] For help, write to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
[lace] Update on David's Tønder lace
David has sent me two new pictures of his Tønder lace project. I've re-arranged the page so that the newest pictures are at the top, and run in reverse chronological order as you scroll down the page. That way, the newest pictures will load first, and you won't have to wait and scroll down, down, down. . . . Still, the pictures are quite large. If you are having difficulty loading them (which might happen with slow Internet connections), please let me know, and I will re-size the photos on the page so that they're considerably smaller. Original discussion page: http://homepage.mac.com/bejoyce/OldLace/ David's project: http://homepage.mac.com/bejoyce/OldLace/david.html Thanks, and enjoy! Barbara Snoqualmie, WA USA - To unsubscribe send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] containing the line: unsubscribe lace [EMAIL PROTECTED] For help, write to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: [lace] Lacemaking video
The pixels may be large, but that voice is unmistakable! Holly Van Sciver demonstrating how to make a tally! Barbara Joyce Snoqualmie, WA US Sorry about the pixels. Webshots did that enlargement. It is a small still camera video. I can't figure how to reduce the size so it looks better. Also the 48 of 49, then full album, means it is the 48th item in an album of 49 and to see the whole album click on the words full album Lori Howe -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Jean Nathan Sent: Thursday, January 25, 2007 3:31 AM To: Lace Subject: [lace] Lacemaking video Jenny gave us this link: http://home-and-garden.webshots.com/video/307297028188630 Don't know what it's like for anyone else, but on my computer the pixels are very large and I can't see what the lacemaker's doing. I also noticed on the righthand side 48 of 49 album full. Does this mean that no new images can be added to the Arachne webshots site until some have been deleted? Jean in Poole, Dorset, UK - To unsubscribe send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] containing the line: unsubscribe lace [EMAIL PROTECTED] For help, write to [EMAIL PROTECTED] - To unsubscribe send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] containing the line: unsubscribe lace [EMAIL PROTECTED] For help, write to [EMAIL PROTECTED] - To unsubscribe send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] containing the line: unsubscribe lace [EMAIL PROTECTED] For help, write to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
[lace] David's Old Tønder Lace
A new picture showing David's progress after one week (four days of which were spent out of town). http://homepage.mac.com/bejoyce/OldLace/david.html Barbara - To unsubscribe send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] containing the line: unsubscribe lace [EMAIL PROTECTED] For help, write to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: [lace] Catalogues and ISBN's
You can definitely overcome this problem, but I do it a little differently. In Excel, as Jo says, select the area where the problem is. You might want to select the entire column in which the ISBN numbers will appear. You do this by putting your cursor in the cell where the column letter appears, for example put the cursor in A and click on it, to select the entire A column. Then FORMAT, CELLS, NUMBER tab, and select TEXT. Text format cells are treated as text even when a number is entered in the cell. The cell is displayed exactly as entered. Barbara Snoqualmie, WA USA Jo - Excel can keep your ISBN numbers the way they should be without scrambling them. What you have to do is highlight the row in which the numbers are to be input. Use the FORMAT menu, Format CELLS, NUMBER tab and then use the CUSTOM option. Entering ten zeros should make sure that even if your ISBN number starts with a zero or two, these will be shown as input. Karen in Malta -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Jo Falkink Sent: Saturday, January 20, 2007 10:30 AM To: Laurie Waters; arachne Subject: [lace] Catalogues and ISBN's Laurie, and others with a lacy catalogue As Tamara complained her database was too clever with sorting names, I just discovered Excel (and perhaps databases too) is too clever with numbers to be convenient for ISBN's. If spaces or dots happen to be every 3rd position, or omitted at all, the leading zero is dropped and the number may be scrambled otherwise. So not only be precise withe the digits, also be precise with the punctuation. The leading zero tells the publisher originates from an english speaking part of the world. The very last digit (which is sometimes an X) is only there to check for typos. Making one typo would invalidate the number and not leading to ordering the wrong book. Making two typos you only have a chance of one in ten to order the wrong book. ISBN's always have 10 digits, the position of the spaces/dashes vary but follow strict rules, separating languages/countries from publishers from the actual book and the final check digit. However, I stumbled over a conversion to 13 digits starting this year, 978 should be put in front of the old 10-digit numbers. http://www.isbn-international.org/en/identifiers/allidentifiers.html http://www.isbn-international.org/converter/ranges.html Jo Falkink from the stormy Netherlands, for us only a fence came down - To unsubscribe send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] containing the line: unsubscribe lace [EMAIL PROTECTED] For help, write to [EMAIL PROTECTED] -- No virus found in this incoming message. Checked by AVG Free Edition. Version: 7.1.410 / Virus Database: 268.17.0/639 - Release Date: 18/01/2007 - To unsubscribe send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] containing the line: unsubscribe lace [EMAIL PROTECTED] For help, write to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: [lace] Website Withof and Bedfordshire
For those who admire Withof lace and want more eye candy, you might enjoy the pictures of Yvonne's lace taken at a class held by Lacemakers of Puget Sound in 2004. http://homepage.mac.com/bejoyce/withof/ Barbara Snoqualmie, WA USA I have just visited the website of Yvonne Scheele-Kerkhof www.lacestudio-paragon.com click on English then gallery to see some of her beautiful pieces. I have been fortunate to attend classes with her in South Africa and am a big admirer of her work. Linda Greyling Helderkruin near Johannesburg South Africa - To unsubscribe send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] containing the line: unsubscribe lace [EMAIL PROTECTED] For help, write to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
[lace] David's Old Tønder Lace page-Update
David has begun his lace, and he sent me two photos, so that we can watch his progress. There is a link on the old page http://homepage.mac.com/bejoyce/OldLace/ Or you can go directly to the new page http://homepage.mac.com/bejoyce/OldLace/david.html What an undertaking! David, I applaud you. Barbara Snoqualmie, WA USA - To unsubscribe send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] containing the line: unsubscribe lace [EMAIL PROTECTED] For help, write to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: [lace] Lace corners - circular lace
And relating to Jo's comments, Clay's comments and Alice's comments, it's important to keep in mind that there are different ways of joining, depending on the type of lace one is making, and perhaps even the lacemaker's preferences. In the continental laces, such as Flanders and Binche, for example, the lacemaker makes an additional portion of lace beyond what is required for the circle, square or whatever. The lace is removed from the pillow, the motifs overlapped and joined with needle and thread. In Bucks, for example, one starts with paired bobbins, which produces a loop at the very beginning of the lace. When the circle (square, etc.) is complete, the threads are pulled through those starting loops via sewings, and this procedure is done while the lace is still on the pillow. Barbara Snoqualmie, WA USA That is what I meant. think she meant to leave the lace on the pillow *until* you're ready to join. Clay lace) that circular laces should stay on the pillow/pricking until the joining took actually place. Jo Falkink - To unsubscribe send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] containing the line: unsubscribe lace [EMAIL PROTECTED] For help, write to [EMAIL PROTECTED] - To unsubscribe send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] containing the line: unsubscribe lace [EMAIL PROTECTED] For help, write to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
[lace] Update to Old Tønder Lace page
I've added a nice, sharp photo of the same lace we've been looking at--this is a photo I took of one of Gunvor's samples last June when she was in Portland. I think it shows the filling in the flowers quite clearly. http://homepage.mac.com/bejoyce/OldLace/ Barbara Snoqualmie, WA USA - To unsubscribe send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] containing the line: unsubscribe lace [EMAIL PROTECTED] For help, write to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: [lace] Re: Question re Old Toender Pricking
Bucks and Tønder both belong to the category of point ground laces. There are many similarities. Tønder is worked with a finer thread, anything from Egyptian Cotton 120/2 to 170/2 depending on the pricking. The gimp is relatively heavy, such as linen 35/2 or 35/3. Gunvor encouraged use of linen thread as gimp because it lends body to the lace. There are several differences between Bucks and Tønder: in Bucks a picot is made in the valley at the headside, but in Tønder, at the valley pin the workers are brought through the headside passives, twisted twice around the pin, and then taken back through the headside passives and into the lace. Also, in Bucks at the footside a cloth stitch is made (C, T, C) after you pin under four, but in Tønder it's a half stitch (C, T). In Bucks, the footside is on the right and the headside is on the left, but the reverse is true of Tønder. Tønder also uses Copenhagen holes, which is too difficult to try to describe here, but is a way of making a big hole in the lace. But to see one, look back at the web page, in the picture of the cover of Knipling 3, the top corner has a Copenhagen hole at the very top. There are some books available that can help you get into this kind of lace (which is my favorite--can you tell?). Knipling 3 is wonderful, and expensive (around $50), was out of print for a while, but is now available again. It is in Danish only, but a very good translation is available for around $15. There is a good out-of-print book called The Technique of Tønder Lace by Skovgaard, available on eBay from time to time, but it usually runs around $60-$70 to get a copy. Gunvor wasn't wild about this book; she said Skovgaard oversimplifies Tønder lace to make it easier for the masses to learn, but she takes liberties with technique. That may be true for a purist, but for most purposes, I think it would be fine, and it's in English. Hope this helps give you an idea of the lace, Barbara Joyce Snoqualmie, WA USA Where we have snow today! Lots of it! :-( Thank you for this brilliant thread of lace and pictures. This type of lace looks as if it is similar to Bucks Point. Can you tell me if it is finer thread, or just has new stitches not normally used in Bucks Point. I think it looks stunning. I could never get the hang of the free Bucks patterns but maybe with more time and experience I might manage better in the future. Thank you David for starting the conversation and the rest for the extension of it all. Sue T, Dorset UK Hi again everyone, More info added to the page--be sure to scroll all the way to the bottom. This has been a lot of fun and very educational. Keep 'em coming! http://homepage.mac.com/bejoyce/OldLace/ Barbara Joyce Snoqualmie, WA USA - To unsubscribe send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] containing the line: unsubscribe lace [EMAIL PROTECTED] For help, write to [EMAIL PROTECTED] - To unsubscribe send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] containing the line: unsubscribe lace [EMAIL PROTECTED] For help, write to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: [lace] Question re Old Toender Pricking - Books
Jeri said: From Jeri: The Nissen Book #3 still shows as out-of-print at Van Sciver (USA), but ask your dealer, and maybe you can get it. My copy from Van Sciver in 2005 was $45. Van Sciver does have the English translation by Karen Hansen Thompson for $15. It is text only, on 8 1/2 x 11 inch paper, spiral bound, about 38 pages + cover. Susan Wenzel shows the book on her web site www.lacysusan.com at $54.95. She may or may not actually have it in stock. She charges only actual postage cost for shipping. Another option is Barbara Fay www.barbara-fay.de. I'm pretty sure she actually does have the book in stock, and charges 36 Euros. She is in Germany. If you're willing to have her send it surface mail (not air mail) she pays all shipping costs. The URL for this book on her site is: http://tinyurl.com/yag2nx Jeri does make an important point about the translation. There are many illustrations in the book, and none of them appear in the translation. So if you don't understand Danish, you need to read with the book in one hand and the translation in the other. This is not a book that you can use without the translation (unless you understand Danish). Regarding another book(let) we've been discussing recently, I believe the OIDFA comparison of point ground laces is out of print, and I don't even see it in the IOLI library listing. Barbara (whose last name is Joyce) Snoqualmie, WA USA - To unsubscribe send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] containing the line: unsubscribe lace [EMAIL PROTECTED] For help, write to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: [lace] OIDFA Point Ground Book
Margot, thanks for posting that. I looked at the OIDFA site, and couldn't find it (at least the first time I tried!). I already own a copy (Thanks, Darlene), but for any of you who have been interested in this discussion and enjoy point ground laces, I encourage you to consider purchasing this publication. It's worth every Euro! Barbara (whose last name is Joyce) Snoqualmie, WA USA It's still available for 20 Euros. See: http://www.oidfa.com/index%20en.htm On Thursday, January 11, 2007, at 05:42 PM, Barbara Joyce wrote: Regarding another book(let) we've been discussing recently, I believe the OIDFA comparison of point ground laces is out of print, and I don't even see it in the IOLI library listing. Margot Visit the Seaspray Guild of Lacemakers web site: http://www3.ns.sympatico.ca/quinbot/seaspray/SeasprayLaceGuild.html - To unsubscribe send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] containing the line: unsubscribe lace [EMAIL PROTECTED] For help, write to [EMAIL PROTECTED] - To unsubscribe send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] containing the line: unsubscribe lace [EMAIL PROTECTED] For help, write to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: [lace] Re: Question re Old Toender Pricking
I thought of another difference between Bucks and Tønder. In Bucks as you work from the lace into the headside, after you cross the gimp, you twist the workers (twice?) before working through the headside passives. Likewise, after you've made the picot, you work back through the passives and twist the workers before crossing the gimp and going back into the lace. In Tønder, you may twist before crossing the gimp (depending on your lace), but no twists after. That is, you cross the gimp and work directly through the headside passives, with no twist on the workers between the gimp and the headside passives. Likewise, after making the picot, you work back through the headside passives, and without twisting the workers, cross the gimp, and continue with the lace. The effect of all this is that in Bucks we see a separation between the gimp and the headside passives, but in Tønder, the gimp and the headside passives appear to be a single unit. Hope this helps, Barbara (whose last name is Joyce) Snoqualmie, WA USA - To unsubscribe send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] containing the line: unsubscribe lace [EMAIL PROTECTED] For help, write to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: [lace] Antique Toender Pattern
I've put up a new web page, and am eager for additional contributions. The new page shows David's original pricking, the cover of Knipling 3 (suggested by Sally) and several scans sent to me by Christine. I've reduced the size of Christine's scans, but they're still pretty big. My apologies to those with a dial-up connection, but I thought some might like to see as much detail as possible, so I've made the images bigger than I usually do for posting on the Internet. If anyone wants to see them in the original size, I will be glad to email them to you. If you have any additional scans that you'd like put on this page, please send them to me at [EMAIL PROTECTED]. I'll post here each time I update the page, so you can see new additions. Thanks David, for starting a very interesting and educational discussion! http://homepage.mac.com/bejoyce/OldLace/ Barbara Joyce Snoqualmie, WA USA Hi Spiders, Just a couple of follow-up notes. 1. My apologies to Barbara Joyce for mistaking her surname for her first name. 2. As Sally noted, a more accessible source for the filling is Karen Trend Nissen's Knipling 3 (one of my all-time favourite books) 3. There is picture of the (slightly wider version of the) lace in Emil Hannover's Tonderske Kniplinger (bottom of page 89 - I have the 1989 re-print). This is available through the Digital Archives of Lace - either the site or one of the CD's. Christine J [EMAIL PROTECTED] - To unsubscribe send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] containing the line: unsubscribe lace [EMAIL PROTECTED] For help, write to [EMAIL PROTECTED] - To unsubscribe send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] containing the line: unsubscribe lace [EMAIL PROTECTED] For help, write to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: [lace] Re: Question re Old Toender Pricking
Hi again everyone, More info added to the page--be sure to scroll all the way to the bottom. This has been a lot of fun and very educational. Keep 'em coming! http://homepage.mac.com/bejoyce/OldLace/ Barbara Joyce Snoqualmie, WA USA - To unsubscribe send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] containing the line: unsubscribe lace [EMAIL PROTECTED] For help, write to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: [lace] Question re Old Toender Pricking
David emailed a scan of the portion of his pricking that he is asking about. Here's the URL: http://homepage.mac.com/bejoyce/tonderdetail.jpg I'll be interested to hear what other ideas we can come up with for the treatment of the center of the flower. Barbara Joyce Snoqualmie, WA USA Dear Friends, I am spending a couple of days preparing an old Toender pricking which I've had for some years. This is a beautiful edging just over 3 deep and I am told was of lace which belonged to a Comtesse Ahlefedt-Laurvigen - there are a number of possibilities from which to choose. There are no working diagrams - just the dots. Thank goodness the gimp lines are there. I can easily figure out all the point ground areas, honeycomb, leaves etc. However, there is one area which is worrying me. It's difficult to describe verbally, but it you can imagine a large-ish circular flower of 8 petals. The central circle is about 1 in diameter. It is the dots inside this central area that I need help with. They are simply arranged in parallel lines like this: . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . What would you recommend doing with them?? David in Ballarat - To unsubscribe send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] containing the line: unsubscribe lace [EMAIL PROTECTED] For help, write to [EMAIL PROTECTED] - To unsubscribe send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] containing the line: unsubscribe lace [EMAIL PROTECTED] For help, write to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: [lace] IOLI Convention- Tulsa
I am sad to see that Holly Van Sciver, Susan Wenzel, and Susie Johnson are missing from the list of teachers, and no Tønder class offered at all. :-( Come to think of it, no Bucks either--and no Beds, right? Yes, I know there are other great teachers, and some up-and-coming ones, too. I'm definitely still grieving over Gunvor's death. Barbara Joyce Snoqualmie, WA USA Dear Gentle Spiders, In the beautiful IOLI Bulletin that arrived a couple of days ago, I noted that the dates given in the Proposed Convention Schedule are off one day. Saturday is 28 July and subsuquent dates should be changed accordingly. The hotel brought the dates to my attention when I booked my room this morning. No problem, really - mark your calendar to conform. Happy Lacemaking Betty Ann in Roanoke, Virginia USA who has been without a cat for neigh on 10 years and now has a black cat that was abandoned by renters who lived in the next house 3 acres away. And She who believes all bobbin lacemakers need a cat. - To unsubscribe send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] containing the line: unsubscribe lace [EMAIL PROTECTED] For help, write to [EMAIL PROTECTED] - To unsubscribe send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] containing the line: unsubscribe lace [EMAIL PROTECTED] For help, write to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: [lace] Question re Old Toender Pricking
David, the first thing that comes to my mind is a pinchain type of filling done on the diagonal, but I really wasn't able to view the dots as you wished--on my screen, there are dots on the left, then a big space, then some different dots on the right. Any chance you could scan the pricking and put it on a website for us to see? If you don't have access to web space, feel free to scan or photograph the pricking and email it to me. I would be glad to put it up for others to take a look at and make suggestions. Barbara Joyce Snoqualmie, WA USA Dear Friends, I am spending a couple of days preparing an old Toender pricking which I've had for some years. This is a beautiful edging just over 3 deep and I am told was of lace which belonged to a Comtesse Ahlefedt-Laurvigen - there are a number of possibilities from which to choose. There are no working diagrams - just the dots. Thank goodness the gimp lines are there. I can easily figure out all the point ground areas, honeycomb, leaves etc. However, there is one area which is worrying me. It's difficult to describe verbally, but it you can imagine a large-ish circular flower of 8 petals. The central circle is about 1 in diameter. It is the dots inside this central area that I need help with. They are simply arranged in parallel lines like this: . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . What would you recommend doing with them?? David in Ballarat - To unsubscribe send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] containing the line: unsubscribe lace [EMAIL PROTECTED] For help, write to [EMAIL PROTECTED] - To unsubscribe send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] containing the line: unsubscribe lace [EMAIL PROTECTED] For help, write to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: [lace] Newbie questions
Hi Debora, and welcome! Alice has given you excellent advice. Many fine lacemakers handle knots exactly as Alice has described. I'm a little anal (OK, I'm a lot anal!), so if I can avoid it, I don't leave knots in my lace. I'll try to describe one technique for doing this, although once again, there are lots of ways to accomplish it. When you see that a bobbin is running low on thread, take a new bobbin that is wound with the same thread, tie a (temporary) knot at the end of the thread and pin through that knot and into the pillow well above the pricking and your work. Now guide the new thread down among the pins and into your work, so that the new bobbin lies next to the one that's running out of thread. Join the two bobbins (use a twister tie to hold them together, or a tiny rubber band). Now use them as one for a while. Just a few stitches is all you'll need. When you think the new thread has been worked into the lace fairly securely, separate the two bobbins and gently lay the old one to the back of the work, continuing to work only with the new bobbin. When the lace is off the pillow, here's what you'll have: There will be a long end (the new thread), a short space where there are two threads running parallel to each other in the lace, and another long end (the original thread that was running out--this may still be attached to its original bobbin). With great care, cut both long ends very close to the lace. No knots, and the double thread will be almost unnoticeable. It's best to do this with a passive, rather than a worker, and it works best in a cloth stitch area. Usually, though, it's the workers that run out of thread! If this happens, you can exchange the worker and a passive by putting in an extra twist when they meet. Do this a row or two before you hang in the extra bobbin. I hope this is clear! Happy Holidays to all, and Happy New Year! Barbara Joyce Snoqualmie, WA USA Happy holidays to all! I finished making my second ornament ever and want to make more. I have some questions: - How do you calculate how much thread to wind on the bobbins per pattern, so you don't waste much? - How do you prepare starch and apply it the old-fashioned way? - Is there a way to hide the knots of joined pairs of bobbins if you decide to use left-over thread on another pattern? I know most of us will be busy with last-minute holiday preparations, so I wish to send all lacemakers best wishes of joy and happiness! Cheers, Debora L. In a Toronto without so much as a fleck of snow - To unsubscribe send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] containing the line: unsubscribe lace [EMAIL PROTECTED] For help, write to [EMAIL PROTECTED] - To unsubscribe send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] containing the line: unsubscribe lace [EMAIL PROTECTED] For help, write to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: [lace] Threads and pins
I bought a beautiful roller pillow in Montreal, and am about to start a pattern on it. The pricking will be exactly as Malvary described, a loop larger than the roller. Here's my question: I've been cautioned that with this method there is a risk that the pricking might not stay exactly vertical but might eventually work its way slightly diagonal. Is this really a problem/risk? If so, how can I avoid it? Thanks, Barbara Joyce Snoqualmie, WA USA Hi - while I would agree with this description for a flat, bolster, block or cookie pillow, it is very difficult to put cover cloths front to back on the pillow when you are using a roller pillow. When using a roller pillow one of the best methods is to make the pattern into a loop, larger than the diameter of the roller and then as you unpin from the back and re-pin at the front, the pins go back into a different place in the roller each time. If you are making a long length and you have the pricking exactly the same size as the roller the holes will gradually get looser as the pins go into the same place over and over. This is particularly noticeable with a foam pillow. Malvary in Ottawa (the Nation's Capital), Canada - To unsubscribe send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] containing the line: unsubscribe lace [EMAIL PROTECTED] For help, write to [EMAIL PROTECTED] - To unsubscribe send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] containing the line: unsubscribe lace [EMAIL PROTECTED] For help, write to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: [lace] Threads and pins
Jenny, I think I know how to avoid the problem of the pricking rising up. As you turn the roller, use a few pins along the sides of the pricking to secure it to the roller. Push these pins all the way down into the roller. As you continue to work and turn the roller back, remove these pins and put more in at the bottom. Does this work? Barbara Joyce Snoqualmie, WA USA Barbara Joyce said about using a roller with a looped pricking... Here's my question: I've been cautioned that with this method there is a risk that the pricking might not stay exactly vertical but might eventually work its way slightly diagonal. Is this really a problem/risk? If so, how can I avoid it? I've not had that problem - only done a few inches so far on my garter but I've had the problen of the pricking rising up from the surface of the roller. I don't press the pins down as I'm going to be pulling them out as the roller turns. Is it inevitable or am I just angling my pins wrongly? jenny barron NE Scotland where winter is coming, down to four degrees C today - To unsubscribe send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] containing the line: unsubscribe lace [EMAIL PROTECTED] For help, write to [EMAIL PROTECTED] - To unsubscribe send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] containing the line: unsubscribe lace [EMAIL PROTECTED] For help, write to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: [lace] moved websites
I'm bejoyce, but the URL you've listed has never existed as such. All my URL's have something after the bejoyce/ that completes the address. Are you looking for the Arachne 2004 Christmas Exchange, Arachne 2005 Christmas Exchange, Withof photos, or . . . ? Let me know, and I'll send you the complete URL. Barbara Joyce Snoqualmie, WA USA I supposed the following websites are moved, where are they gone so I can update my list of bobbin lace websites? http://homepage.mac.com/bejoyce/ http://homepage.mac.com/jeanbarrett/ Jo Falkink http://www.xs4all.nl/~falkink/lace/newlinks-NL.html near Gouda, Netherlands - lace circle location: http://maps.google.com/maps?q=52.0236,4.70808z=6t=h - To unsubscribe send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] containing the line: unsubscribe lace [EMAIL PROTECTED] For help, write to [EMAIL PROTECTED] - To unsubscribe send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] containing the line: unsubscribe lace [EMAIL PROTECTED] For help, write to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: [lace] Alternative Silk Thread
Jenny, An answer to a question that you didn't ask, but here's some info anyway: There is a lovely shop that sells both Soie D'Alger and Soie Ovale, and she ships internationally. If all else fails, or if you should decide you want to use the threads called for in the book, here's the info: Threadneedle Street 485 Front Street North, Suite B Issaquah, WA 98027 USA email: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Web site: www.threadneedlestreet.com To find the threads you're looking for, click on Threads at the top, then silk along the side, and then the threads you want. Proprietor is a lovely woman, Denise Davis. Shipping charges are quite reasonable. Barbara Joyce No affiliation, just a very satisfied customer Having just posted a message asking if anyone can translate French to English for a Cluny pattern for me I am now asking if anyone else has worked any of the patterns in the same book, Modeles Inedits de Dentelles au Fuseau Cluny de Brioude by Mick Fourisott and Odette Arpin using alternative silk threads to those used in the book? The pattern I want to make uses Soi d´Alger and Soi Ovale, but the manufacturing company of these threads only seems to sell to retailers not to private individuals and the retailers addresses they give on the site are mostly in France or Belgium. I thought I could perhaps use some of the threads from Pipers Silks of Suffolk England but which of their range of threads would be a good alternative or is there a better alternative to Soi d´Alger or Soi Ovale? I did e.mail Pipers Silks last week but haven't had any reply to date so wonder if their e.mail address is still current. Any ideas on alternatives would be gratefully received. Jenny DeAngelis Spain. - To unsubscribe send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] containing the line: unsubscribe lace [EMAIL PROTECTED] For help, write to [EMAIL PROTECTED] - To unsubscribe send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] containing the line: unsubscribe lace [EMAIL PROTECTED] For help, write to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: [lace] Lace with paper strings
Jean, I'm sorry I can't be of any help with your question, but I have one for you. I've never seen this book and am enchanted with the photo of the cover. I'd like to give it a try, but I don't recall ever seeing the paper string for sale at any vendor's table or any Internet listing. Can anyone suggest a source for obtaining the paper strings? Oh! It just occurred to me that Alice Howell (Hi, Alice!) made an little angel with paper string wings and flower for the 2004 Arachne Christmas exchange. You can see it here (scroll down): http://homepage.mac.com/bejoyce/arachne/ Perhaps Alice can answer your question and/or mine! Barbara Joyce Snoqualmie, WA USA I'm just starting the sunflower from Eva Kortelahti's book Bobbin Lace with Paper Strings. Has anyone worked something from this book? For those who haven't seen these designs, they have cut lengths of twisted, coloured paper string trapped in the work the same way that gimps are trapped. The ends of the string stick out and are unravelled when the piece is finished to form flower petals, leaves, or wings (or sometimes just as a very thick gimp). The cover of the book with three of the flower panels, including the sunflower one, can be seen on: http://www.lace-making.com/books/paper%20string.jpg tinied: http://tinyurl.com/yfdqer snip - To unsubscribe send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] containing the line: unsubscribe lace [EMAIL PROTECTED] For help, write to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: [lace] TableMate advantage.- 2
Yes, but the smaller one fits in my old, hardside suitcase for airline travel! I've taken it with me to several distant conventions, and I've been thrilled to have it with me! Barbara Joyce Snoqualmie, WA USA In a message dated 10/18/06 6:21:48 PM Eastern Daylight Time, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: Just another comment about the TableMate. I have two of them and dearly love them..Just wanted people to know that they come in two sizes. The nice big one is the one I like best. But the smaller one is now the one being sold in these small catalogs you get in the mail. So when purchasing one you might want to check the size. For those connected with the military, the ones being sold in the U.S. Navy Exchange are also the small ones. They seem to be pushing the small size ones everywhere. Patsy A. Goodman - Dear Lacemakers, This memo (above) was sent only to me, but from wording seems to be meant for entire Arachne list. I will add to Patsy's info the following: The sizes are: Approximately 20 1/2 x 15 1/2 (raised rim takes up 3/4 of working surface all around) Approximately 25 1/2 x 19 3/4 (raised rim, etc...) I, too, prefer the larger table. Works well for embroidery, spangling, and other crafts and tasks as well. The rounded raised rim keeps round things (like un-spangled bobbins) from rolling or being brushed off the table. Jeri Ames in Maine USA Lace and Embroidery Resource Center - To unsubscribe send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] containing the line: unsubscribe lace [EMAIL PROTECTED] For help, write to [EMAIL PROTECTED] - To unsubscribe send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] containing the line: unsubscribe lace [EMAIL PROTECTED] For help, write to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: [lace] TONDER LACE PINS
Traditionally, the bobbins used in Denmark are the long ones with spherical knobs at the ends, usually beaded. However, you can use any continental or East Midlands bobbin that you like. Since there are virtually no sewings in Tonder lace, it's perfectly fine to use spangled bobbins, if that's your preference. If you're going to be doing a wide lace that uses many pairs of bobbins, you'd be smart to select something narrow, such as a Binche bobbin. For pins, I like 30 x .50 steel pins. For some interesting pictures of Tonder bobbins and lace, please take a look at http://lace.lacefairy.com/International/Denmark.html. For an interesting discussion about How to Select a Pin, go to http://www.vansciverbobbinlace.com/Pins.html and scroll down to that title, below the listing of pins. Enjoy your class! Barbara Joyce Snoqualmie, WA USA I just have a quick question or two. What type of bobbin is traditionally used for Tonder lace? Should I avoid spangled ones? What is the size of pins I should use?I have be trying to look before I go to class in case I have what I need. Thanks Candy PS I have googled and saw lots of pretty lace, a few bobbins and no definitions on the size of the pins. - To unsubscribe send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] containing the line: unsubscribe lace [EMAIL PROTECTED] For help, write to [EMAIL PROTECTED] - To unsubscribe send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] containing the line: unsubscribe lace [EMAIL PROTECTED] For help, write to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: [lace] sad news
This is overwhelmingly sad news for the entire lacemaking community, and for me personally. Gunvor taught Tønder lace with skill, patience and good humor, and I am exceedingly grateful to have had the opportunity to study with her. The love of Tønder lace that she carried and imparted to all her students is a gift that I will always cherish. Barbara Joyce Snoqualmie, WA USA It is with deep sadness that I have to tell the list that Gunvor Jorgensen, well known lace teacher, passed away this morning at home after a brief illness. Regina Haring - To unsubscribe send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] containing the line: unsubscribe lace [EMAIL PROTECTED] For help, write to [EMAIL PROTECTED] - To unsubscribe send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] containing the line: unsubscribe lace [EMAIL PROTECTED] For help, write to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: [lace] lace Christmas cards
Hi Clay and all, Yes, I posted web pages for the Christmas card exchange in 2004 and 2005. The pages are still viewable. Here are the URL's: http://homepage.mac.com/bejoyce/arachne/ http://homepage.mac.com/bejoyce/arachne2005/ I would also like to participate this year, but I am going to pass the Internet Web Page Baton to someone else. I hope someone does decide to post pictures, as many of us enjoy seeing all the beautiful and creative lace designs that are exchanged. And may I be the first to wish you all a Merry Christmas 2006! Barbara Joyce Snoqualmie, WA USA Hi Sue - The card exchange that Bev was talking about is one card exchanged with one other person. The sender makes the card adding a festive piece of lace she has made. If I'm not mistaken, there is a folder with pictures of some of last years cards (Barbara Joyce - did you put that on your website?) Clay Sue wrote: Hi all, By card exchange do you mean one card exchanged with one other person, or many cards? My already very long list of christmas cards couldn't cope with huge amounts:-) Sue T, Dorset UK, where it is sunny Hi everyone Quiet on the list, isn't it?! Today is dull and damp compared to previous weeks of clear skies, when I was hiding from the glaring sun. Now I'm hiding from the damp, and thinking ahead to Christmas. For the last couple of years we've had a Christmas card exchange on this list. I coordinated it last year - I'm not going to take this on again, so perhaps someone else would like to think about it, if people would like to take part again. I have an idea that I might make one Christmas card (high hopes that it will be clever) and will post it at my blog, to share with you all. I'm mentioning this now because a) it's on my mind and b) if anyone wants to do a card exchange, it is a good idea to plan early ;) -- Bev in Sooke BC (on warm but soggy Vancouver Island, west coast of Canada) blogging lace at www.looonglace.blogspot.com - To unsubscribe send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] containing the line: unsubscribe lace [EMAIL PROTECTED] For help, write to [EMAIL PROTECTED] -- No virus found in this incoming message. Checked by AVG Free Edition. Version: 7.0.405 / Virus Database: 268.12.5/451 - Release Date: 19/09/2006 - To unsubscribe send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] containing the line: unsubscribe lace [EMAIL PROTECTED] For help, write to [EMAIL PROTECTED] - To unsubscribe send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] containing the line: unsubscribe lace [EMAIL PROTECTED] For help, write to [EMAIL PROTECTED] - To unsubscribe send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] containing the line: unsubscribe lace [EMAIL PROTECTED] For help, write to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: [lace] Prickings for workshops
This is an exception, I'm quite sure, but Gunvor Jorgenson, who teaches Tonder lace, comes to class with prickings already pricked on card stock and distributes them to her students at the beginning of class! Tonder is a Danish point-ground lace, similar in some ways to Bucks, but with some very different techniques. Although Gunvor was born and grew up in Denmark, she has been in this country for many years and speaks fluent English. If you ever have a chance to take a class from her, by all means do! Barbara Joyce Snoqualmie, WA USA I've been having a discussion with some Australian lacemaking friends about whether photocopied prickings should be supplied to participants before a workshop, so that they can prepare their prickings properly before the workshop begins. Some of us have been told that this is not done by European tutors, that paper prickings are only distributed at the workshop - indeed, the last two workshops I have been to in Australia with European tutors, we were expected to just place Contact over the paper pricking and start working. I much prefer to prepare my pricking on thin board beforehand, and pre-prick. Can spiders let me know the usual practice please. Noelene in Cooma With Spring in the air, at least, even if it is still a bit chilly. [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://members.ozemail.com.au/~nlafferty/ - To unsubscribe send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] containing the line: unsubscribe lace [EMAIL PROTECTED] For help, write to [EMAIL PROTECTED] - To unsubscribe send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] containing the line: unsubscribe lace [EMAIL PROTECTED] For help, write to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: [lace] Finished garter
Not only a beautiful job on a beautiful piece of lace, but what a clever and original way to turn the lace into a beautiful garter. Your step-sister is very lucky! Barbara Joyce Snoqualmie, WA USA Hi all, Hoorah, I've just finished making a whole yard of two and a hlaf inch wide Bucks Point lace (Honey Bees pattern from Stott and Cook's 100 Traditional Bobbin Lace Patterns) for a garter for my step-sister's wedding in September - only started it 3 weeks ago and thought it would take me much longer to complete the length. I've managed to load pictures on to the Arachne webshots album if anyone is interested. I used Pipers spun silk, 140/3 which was a dream to work with (only broke one thread in the whole piece and that was in the picot edge bundle so was not a problem) and the lace has a nice soft drapy feel. Just hope the bride likes it and appreciates the hours of work. This seems to be the link to my album: http://community.webshots.com/myphotos?action=viewAllPhotosalbumID=553273881; security=iPvKNN (don't know how to do these tiny url's) or go to: http://community.webshots.com/user/arachne2003/2 and look for my folder (Andrea Lamble). Have to decide what to make now to fill the gap in my life! Mind you might have to get the duster and vacuum cleaner out of hibernation as DH returns from a month spent in the Czech Republic tomorrow. Regards Andrea Lamble Cambridge, UK. _ Windows Live Messenger has arrived. Click here to download it for free! http://imagine-msn.com/messenger/launch80/?locale=en-gb - To unsubscribe send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] containing the line: unsubscribe lace [EMAIL PROTECTED] For help, write to [EMAIL PROTECTED] - To unsubscribe send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] containing the line: unsubscribe lace [EMAIL PROTECTED] For help, write to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: [lace] Fan Making
Alice said: Word of warningget your fan sticks FIRST, and size your pattern to fit. There's many a fan leaf waiting for the right size sticks. OK, right, that makes perfect sense. I have a beautiful Bucks pattern for a fan that I'd really love to do. How do I go about getting fan sticks that are approximately the right size for this pattern? Does anyone know of any sources for pretty fan sticks? (I know I can re-size the pattern, but I'd really rather get sticks that fit it--or are at least close--can you blame me?) ;-) Barbara Joyce Snoqualmie, WA USA - To unsubscribe send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] containing the line: unsubscribe lace [EMAIL PROTECTED] For help, write to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
[lace] Photos gone bye-bye! :-(
I hope everyone who was interested got to see the table ribbon photos. I received a message from Debra Jenny instructing me to remove them from the Internet, and I have done so. Barbara Joyce Snoqualmie, WA USA - To unsubscribe send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] containing the line: unsubscribe lace [EMAIL PROTECTED] For help, write to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: [lace] IOLI arachne luncheon and convention (long)
Your wish is my command! Pictures are not of excellent quality, but you'll get the idea http://web.mac.com/bejoyce Click on Start Slideshow or click on each picture for an enlargement. Enjoy! Barbara Joyce Snoqualmie, WA USA I wish you all could have seen the entertainment. They were a group of dancers. First they came out and the women were dressed in the hooped skirted gowns and the men were dressed in their finest. They danced the minuet, and a few others. We went on with the banquet. Then more dancing. More banquet and business. T H E N - - - - -- The Grande finale. WOW! ! You had to see this. The dancers came out in costume. Little white bonnets and long aprons, (funny I can't remember what the men were wearing) but they were each carrying a long white rope attached to a giant sized lace makers pillow. The Lacemaker stepped up to the podium and they placed the giant pillow in place. She had giant pins to place in the proper holes. The dancers kind of danced and at the same time wove the rope over and under making the stitches and finally a tally. The lacemaker placing the giant sized pins in the proper places. When done, the pillow was held up so we could all see the lace. It was a wonderful accomplishment. The battery in my camera had gone dead just as the program started and my extra battery was up in my room. So I got no pictures of the dancers. But believe me cameras were flashing all over. Hopefully some will put them up for us all to enjoy. Don't know if we can wait for the next IOLI bulletin. Hope every one that went to convention had a great time. Patsy A. Goodman Chula Vista, CA, USA - To unsubscribe send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] containing the line: unsubscribe lace [EMAIL PROTECTED] For help, write to [EMAIL PROTECTED] - To unsubscribe send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] containing the line: unsubscribe lace [EMAIL PROTECTED] For help, write to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: [lace] RE:IOLI Table ribbon contest
I'm home again, and have a very brief report for Helen, Clay, and anyone else who has inquired about the contest. There were, I believe, 26 entries, and they were all beautiful and amazing! They were displayed without the names of the makers, so I can't tell you who entered, or who won what, with one exception. Also, although we were permitted to photograph many lovely tablecloths and doilies that were on display, we were not permitted to photograph any of the contest entries--no explanation was given for this. Each attendee receive a ballot for a vote for The People's Choice award. If an entrant was not present, she could designate a person to pick up her entry for her at the end of the closing banquet. By a stroke of good fortune, the designee for the winner of the People's Choice award was seated at the same table as I was at the banquet. After the announcement of the awards, she went and picked up the table runner and brought it back to the table, where many cameras appeared (including mine), and I did snap a picture. I still don't know the name of the creator of this masterpiece (acoustics in the banquet room left much to be desired), but this runner won second prize for technical excellence as well as People's Choice. Before I give you the URL for that one, I must tell you that Janice Blair created an original design which was amazing--called Vineyard, I believe--a multi-colored ribbon of beautiful grape leaves, with 3-dimensional grapes attached, and Janice won second prize for her original design. Kudos Janice, it's beautiful! OK, now for the one ribbon I took a photo of--I hope someone posts and lets us know the name of the creator of this masterpiece of bobbin lacemaking. I believe she lives in Canada. Talk about LEAVES! I didn't get a picture of the ends, but they were tapered into a point, with a small braid of dark rose threads ending in a tassle. Just beautiful! http://homepage.mac.com/bejoyce/tableribbon1.jpg http://homepage.mac.com/bejoyce/tableribbon2.jpg The convention was so wonderful! Thanks to all who worked so hard to make it a stunning success! Barbara Joyce Snoqualmie, WA USA Has anyone heard yet (or are any convention attendees back online) and can share whose table ribbon reigns supreme? Like Alice (and other non-convention attendees), I'm dying of curiosity to know the contest results. Cheers, Helen, in hot and Dry Denver - To unsubscribe send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] containing the line: unsubscribe lace [EMAIL PROTECTED] For help, write to [EMAIL PROTECTED] - To unsubscribe send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] containing the line: unsubscribe lace [EMAIL PROTECTED] For help, write to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: [lace] Convention, Money
Do we exchange our US $ for Cdn $ at the Montreal airport? Thanks, Barbara Some of the teachers have asked for payment of supplies in US $. Presumably the friend will be paying for accommodation with credit card, which will be charged in Cdn $ and converted by the credit card company. Local restaurants will want Cdn $. Taxi/limo/bus service in from airport will want Cdn $. Some places may accept US $, but it will be at the rate of exchange they want to charge, and not necessarily the best. Cdn dealers at Convention might be willing to take US $ but not guaranteed. Malvary in Ottawa where it is Very hot and VERY humid today. - Original Message - From: Ruth Hickman [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: Arachne lace@arachne.com Sent: Monday, July 17, 2006 12:28 PM Subject: [lace] Convention, Money Hello Everyone, I would like to know if US $ are OK or do you have to have CAN $ I'm not going but a friend is. Thanks Ruth Ruth Hickman Kilgore, TX USA [EMAIL PROTECTED] - To unsubscribe send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] containing the line: unsubscribe lace [EMAIL PROTECTED] For help, write to [EMAIL PROTECTED] - To unsubscribe send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] containing the line: unsubscribe lace [EMAIL PROTECTED] For help, write to [EMAIL PROTECTED] - To unsubscribe send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] containing the line: unsubscribe lace [EMAIL PROTECTED] For help, write to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: [lace] Dear Abby
Brenda's is an excellent suggestion, IMHO. This is also not legal advice, and laws differ from state to state. However, at one time I was informed that every item or group of items specifically listed and bequeathed in a will (or codicil) must be appraised and their value included for state and federal estate taxes (if any). A letter left with a Will doesn't have the same legal requirement that a given item must go to a specific recipient--the letter is simply the decedent's request--but the items listed in the letter don't fall under the same appraisal and tax requirements. Barbara Joyce Snoqualmie, WA USA Terry and I have made Wills but they are of the type that leaves everything to each other and then equally between the children, but I have put a note into the envelope saying that if they don't want any of my lacemaking things for themselves then please offer them to The Lace Guild - and included the Guild's address/phone number. That sort of thing can be done for any specialist items. Brenda On 12 Jun 2006, at 13:13, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Dear Friends: THIS IS NOT LEGAL ADVICE AND ALL WILLS/TRUST LAWS DIFFER FROM STATE TO STATE IN THE UNITED STATES. Clay's letter caught my interest right away. My husband and I are constantly antiqueing and buying things second-hand. At one auction, where there were no children surviving the couple; their entire life was laid out on several tables. You could view everything and realize that many things were purchased with care. I have no heirs. My husband's children aren't interested either. My largest fear is that some jerk will come in and clean out the house, not recognize my extensive bone bobbin collection, and pitch all of it into a dumpster. So, even though I have not made out a will, I am going to inventory everything in my lacemaking collection and pick a designated spot. An inventory is the first step towards creating a will and would become an integral part of it when it is finally time to disperse it all. Linda MacRannolds Sheff, Esq. - To unsubscribe send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] containing the line: unsubscribe lace [EMAIL PROTECTED] For help, write to [EMAIL PROTECTED] Brenda http://paternoster.orpheusweb.co.uk/ - To unsubscribe send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] containing the line: unsubscribe lace [EMAIL PROTECTED] For help, write to [EMAIL PROTECTED] - To unsubscribe send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] containing the line: unsubscribe lace [EMAIL PROTECTED] For help, write to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: [lace] IOLI /Montreal
Tamara and others, For both of the silk threads you need for your class (Au Ver a Soie and Ovale), I highly recommend Threadneedle Street in Issaquah, WA. When I lived in Maryland, I ordered from her, and now I live 20 minutes from the shop. Lucky me! The owner is Denise Davis, and the shop is filled with every fiber imaginable (almost) and every color of every fiber. It is a needlewoman's delight (my other passion). This shop conducts a huge mail-order business. The web site is www.threadneedlestreet.com. Click on threads at the top of the page, then click on Silk threads along the left side, and you'll be able to find both of the silks you're looking for. She has a toll-free number (1-800-998-5945) FOR ORDERS for US residents and takes Visa and MasterCard, as well as checks and money orders. Truly, I cannot recommend this shop highly enough. Barbara Joyce Snoqualmie, WA USA - To unsubscribe send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] containing the line: unsubscribe lace [EMAIL PROTECTED] For help, write to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: [lace] Lace pillow maker? on ebay
I've met dozens of people when I've been demonstrating bobbin lace whose grannies did tatting just like you're doing. Evidently a universal problem: Last summer when I was demonstrating bobbin lace at the Washington State Fair, a woman came up to me almost breathless with enthusiasm. Look, she said to her friend, My father used to do that! I replied, Your father made bobbin lace?!?! She said, No, he tatted! Barbara Joyce Snoqualmie, WA USA - To unsubscribe send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] containing the line: unsubscribe lace [EMAIL PROTECTED] For help, write to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: [lace] UK lacemakers pleaseJean in Poole
Sue, The DVD covers making the hummingbird in great detail. That's it! There is also included a pricking for a pretty little heart (still haven't tried it), with no instructions. The idea is that once you've made the hummingbird, you should be able to transfer what you learned and be able to make the heart. It does use some of the same braid designs as the hummingbird. Barbara Joyce Snoqualmie, WA USA Thank you Jean, I didn't know if it was available in this country although I couldn't find it on the google stuff. I would love to do the hummingbird that has been shown by a couple of others and am intrigued as to what other pieces are on there, whether the patterns for the heart and other small things are available through using the DVD or not. I started learning the braids, (very early stages) recently but had to put them down to complete some other urgent projects but want to get back to them. The difficulty about buying books, Videos or DVD's, sight unseen, is that you can end up with lots of them and still not want to do the patterns they contain. The heart, and the hummingbird seem to be beautiful and also just the sort of early work I might manage once I have practised the braids a little, rather than some of the fabulous but pretty difficult other things in the two Milanese books I have. Progression rather than trying to swim the channel before I can swim a width of the pool:-) Our DVD player can play US stuff, so that isn't a problem. I keep hunting and not finding much info at all about it. If anyone can give me an idea of the sorts of patterns on this dvd I would be grateful. Sue T, Dorset UK. Sue wrote: Does anyone know where I might be able to purchase the DVD of Louise Colgan's Milanese Lace, in the UK, preferably? Unless the DVD is unrestricted as to region, won't there be a problem playing it here unless you have an all region DVD or your DVD is capable of playing region 1. I think the US is region 1 - we're region 2. You'd best check before buying. There are ways of getting a code specific to each make of DVD player from the internet to reprogramme them through the remote control so that they play all regions, but I haven't had the courage to try it in case I muck mine up. Videos from the US are a problem if your VCR won't play NTSC format - all three in our house will. I've transferred most of my videos to DVD (personal backups, so legal) by straight copying from one machine to another (there's a special SCART lead which filters out the copy-protect signal), but the ones I have from the US would be so time consuming and have to be done through the computer, that I'm leaving them as they are and hope I'll always be able to play videos. I'd add that I'm only doing this where a DVD isn't available and I'm staying legal by keeping the videos. Jean in Poole, Dorset, UK - To unsubscribe send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] containing the line: unsubscribe lace [EMAIL PROTECTED] For help, write to [EMAIL PROTECTED] - To unsubscribe send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] containing the line: unsubscribe lace [EMAIL PROTECTED] For help, write to [EMAIL PROTECTED] - To unsubscribe send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] containing the line: unsubscribe lace [EMAIL PROTECTED] For help, write to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: [lace] Re: Milanese DVD pattern
A slight correction/clarification. The little heart pricking that comes with the DVD is not the same one as appears in Louise's book. The one in Louise's book is quite large (I know, because it's on one of my pillows right now)--probably about 10 inches across, while the one with the DVD is a completely different pattern and about 3 inches across. Barbara Joyce Snoqualmie, WA USA The Louise Colgan Milanese DVD is a training lesson on how to do Milanese lace. The pattern worked in the video (and comes with it) is the Hummingbird. It is the only pattern on the video. However, the techniques taught can be used to do other patterns. The Heart pattern is from Louise's book Milanese Lace: Original Patterns in Color. It also has the Butterfly, Snake, Cross Knot, and Fleur-de-Lis. Alice in Oregon --- Sue [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I would love to do the hummingbird that has been shown by a couple of others and am intrigued as to what other pieces are on there, - To unsubscribe send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] containing the line: unsubscribe lace [EMAIL PROTECTED] For help, write to [EMAIL PROTECTED] - To unsubscribe send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] containing the line: unsubscribe lace [EMAIL PROTECTED] For help, write to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: [lace] lace pictures
Well done, Jenny! Both the lace and the slideshow/album. You've come a long way in a very short time. Good for you! Barbara Joyce Snoqualmie, WA USA Hi folks I have not been able to sleep tonight so thought I would have a go at making a picture album/slideshow of my lace efforts from start to now. Could you give me feedback on it if you have time? www.brandis.com.au/craft/lace/MyLace/index.htm Jenny Brandis Kununurra, Western Australia [EMAIL PROTECTED] www.brandis.com.au Lace Making in the Kimberley Region of Western Australia Index http://www.brandis.com.au/craft/lace.html - To unsubscribe send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] containing the line: unsubscribe lace [EMAIL PROTECTED] For help, write to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: [lace] UK lacemakers please
Hi Sue, Perhaps someone in the UK can answer your question about a UK provider. If not, you can always order the DVD direct from Hensel Productions [EMAIL PROTECTED]. It shouldn't be difficult to conclude the transaction--the Hensel's may take credit cards, or possibly PayPal. A quick email to them should give you the info you need. For anyone who hasn't heard about this DVD, here's my web page with a scan of my little bird http://homepage.mac.com/bejoyce/hummingbird/. If you can cross and twist, you can make this design! Barbara Joyce Snoqualmie, WA USA Does anyone know where I might be able to purchase the DVD of Louise Colgan's Milanese Lace, in the UK, preferably? Sherry has set me off and I have money to spend from my Mum so this seems a great time to go for it. Thanks, Sue T, Dorset UK - To unsubscribe send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] containing the line: unsubscribe lace [EMAIL PROTECTED] For help, write to [EMAIL PROTECTED] - To unsubscribe send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] containing the line: unsubscribe lace [EMAIL PROTECTED] For help, write to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: [lace] Thread for 's Gravensmoer lace
Holly Van Sciver lists Egyptian cotton 50/3 on her web site http://vansciverbobbinlace.com/2Threads.html. She ships internationally. Just because a thread isn't listed in Brenda's book doesn't mean it doesn't exist. It just means Brenda hasn't measured the thread. If you buy some, send Brenda a yard or two of it, and it will promptly appear on her web site in an addendum. Barbara Joyce Snoqualmie, WA USA I recently acquired a copy of 's-Gravenmoerse Kant by Tiny Bruins and Hanneke Troost. Throughout, they refer to using Egyptian cotton 50/3, but according to my copy of Thread for Lace, there is no such thread Do they mean Egyptian cotton 50/2? Noelene in Cooma [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://members.ozemail.com.au/~nlafferty/ - To unsubscribe send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] containing the line: unsubscribe lace [EMAIL PROTECTED] For help, write to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: [lace] Bucks Lace Postcard Inquiry from Nicky in Suffolk
I'd love to see it, too! Is someone going to put it on a website? Assuming there's no copyright involved, if no one else is going to post it, I would be happy to put it on my web site for all to see. If you'd like me to do that, please email the scan to me! Barbara Joyce [EMAIL PROTECTED] Snoqualmie, WA USA Hello Jeri I've just scanned my postcard, will send it to to you and Lori privately. The Beds card can be seen at http://www.mkheritage.co.uk/cnm/lace/lacehtml/lacemakers.html Brenda Lacefairy is not on Arachne. Perhaps someone will share a picture of the Bucks postcard and also the Beds postcard (mentioned in a different memo) with Lori. Brenda http://paternoster.orpheusweb.co.uk/ - To unsubscribe send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] containing the line: unsubscribe lace [EMAIL PROTECTED] For help, write to [EMAIL PROTECTED] - To unsubscribe send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] containing the line: unsubscribe lace [EMAIL PROTECTED] For help, write to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: [lace] Re: Reconstruction of Old Laces
And in addition, if (as a seller) you have a PayPal account set up that accepts credit card payments, you pay the same fees to PayPal even if your buyer pays with cash, via a direct transfer from his checking account. Which really bites! Barbara Joyce Snoqualmie, WA USA Sorting through all of this, it appears that 1. PayPal adjusts the conversion rate of international purchases to offset the fees it pays to do business with credit cards. The buyer pays this rate. 2. PayPal converts the funds before placing in the seller's account. The conversion fee is charged to the seller's account. 3. With domestic purchases, many sellers say they will not work with PayPal purchases involving credit cards. Presumably that is because PayPal also passes the cost of credit on to the seller in domestic transactions. Clay -- Clay Blackwell Lynchburg, VA Cindy Rusak [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: = Good Morning Arachnes, Tamara, I think you would find that the exchange rate that Visa would charge you would be about the same as what Paypal charges you. When we first moved to the US and checked into using our US visa cards for foreign currency purchases the 'hidden' fees were somewhere about 2-1/2% so I continued to use my Canadian Visa for foreign currency purchases because it did not have the hidden charges. Unfortunately about two years ago my Canadian Visa also decided it needed that little extra so it doesn't matter which card I use now. What I mean by hidden charges is that in the exchange rate they use includes an extra 2-1/2% and it doesn't appear as an extra charge. Maybe you have a better Visa account that doesn't charge a fee - you'd have to check your user agreement Cindy Rusak - in sunny, almost looking like spring, Wisconsin. - To unsubscribe send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] containing the line: unsubscribe lace [EMAIL PROTECTED] For help, write to [EMAIL PROTECTED] - To unsubscribe send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] containing the line: unsubscribe lace [EMAIL PROTECTED] For help, write to [EMAIL PROTECTED] - To unsubscribe send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] containing the line: unsubscribe lace [EMAIL PROTECTED] For help, write to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: [lace] Re Stamp raffle
As the daughter and wife of avid stamp collectors, I can offer at least one option to you. My husband uses Showgard mounts, but there are several other brands, too. The particular style he likes is an opaque dark plastic backing with an upper clear plastic layer bonded to it along one side. The back of the dark layer is adhesive, so you can moisten it and then affix it to the sheet on which you're mounting and framing. The mounts come in many sizes. To use them, you just cut to size, separate the two layers, and slide the stamp in. He uses long strips and cuts them to the desired size for the stamp. For albums, he puts the sealed end on the top, but for a frame that's hanging on the wall, I think I'd put the sealed end at the bottom, to prevent the stamp from sliding out. I did a Google search and found a US company that sells them by mail order http://www.mdstamp.com/, but any stamp collecting shop will have something similar. Malvary, I did a google search stamp collecting supplies ottawa and came up with http://www.iankimmerly.com/index.php. Hope this helps, Barbara Joyce Snoqualmie, WA USA Lorri Ferguson wrote: This has inspired me to pursue a project of framing my growing collection of stamps I was just cleaning out a box of mostly junk and came across a small block of 12 of the US Lace Stamps. I thought I'd frame them, but Lorri's comment made me wonder what is the best way to mount them - obviously don't want to stick them to the backing, but if I put a mount under the glass, how do I keep the stamps in place? Thanks for any ideas. Malvary in Ottawa - To unsubscribe send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] containing the line: unsubscribe lace [EMAIL PROTECTED] For help, write to [EMAIL PROTECTED] - To unsubscribe send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] containing the line: unsubscribe lace [EMAIL PROTECTED] For help, write to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: [lace] Re Stamp raffle
Oh, yes! BarbE is referring to stamp hinges. Please don't use them! Your stamps may not be highly valuable, but whatever their value, it is diminished when you affix the stamp to a page with a hinge. These are small glassine strips with adhesive on one side. You fold them in half, glue side out, lick one half and stick it on your stamp, then lick the other side and stick it on the page. By doing so, you have disturbed the gum on the back of the stamp, and it is no longer NH in stamp collector parlance - never hinged. Use the mounts to treat your stamps kindly! Barbara Joyce Snoqualmie, WA USA Say, Barbara, maybe this is what DS used on my picture...the glassine tabs are a bit archaic BarbE - Original Message - From: Barbara Joyce mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] To: Malvary J Cole mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] ; arachne mailto:lace@arachne.com Sent: Saturday, March 18, 2006 10:10 AM Subject: Re: [lace] Re Stamp raffle As the daughter and wife of avid stamp collectors, I can offer at least one option to you. My husband uses Showgard mounts, but there are several other brands, too. The particular style he likes is an opaque dark plastic backing with an upper clear plastic layer bonded to it along one side. The back of the dark layer is adhesive, so you can moisten it and then affix it to the sheet on which you're mounting and framing. The mounts come in many sizes. To use them, you just cut to size, separate the two layers, and slide the stamp in. He uses long strips and cuts them to the desired size for the stamp. For albums, he puts the sealed end on the top, but for a frame that's hanging on the wall, I think I'd put the sealed end at the bottom, to prevent the stamp from sliding out. I did a Google search and found a US company that sells them by mail order http://www.mdstamp.com/, but any stamp collecting shop will have something similar. Malvary, I did a google search stamp collecting supplies ottawa and came up with http://www.iankimmerly.com/index.php. Hope this helps, Barbara Joyce Snoqualmie, WA USA Lorri Ferguson wrote: This has inspired me to pursue a project of framing my growing collection of stamps I was just cleaning out a box of mostly junk and came across a small block of 12 of the US Lace Stamps. I thought I'd frame them, but Lorri's comment made me wonder what is the best way to mount them - obviously don't want to stick them to the backing, but if I put a mount under the glass, how do I keep the stamps in place? Thanks for any ideas. Malvary in Ottawa - To unsubscribe send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] containing the line: unsubscribe lace [EMAIL PROTECTED] For help, write to [EMAIL PROTECTED] - To unsubscribe send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] containing the line: unsubscribe lace [EMAIL PROTECTED] For help, write to [EMAIL PROTECTED] - To unsubscribe send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] containing the line: unsubscribe lace [EMAIL PROTECTED] For help, write to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: [lace] Further steps in Honiton Lace
Jenny, Thanks so much for posting this. I have been wanting a copy of this book for a long time. I am happy to report that I won it today, and I can't wait until it arrives on this side of the pond (and all the way across the US). Barbara Joyce Snoqualmie, WA USA I don't know if anyone on the list is still looking for this book by Susanne Thompson, it doesn't come up very often and it's sitting with no bids at the moment http://cgi.ebay.co.uk/Further-Steps-in-Honiton-Lace_W0QQitemZ8391956018QQcateg oryZ64290QQrdZ1QQcmdZViewItem jenny barron Snowy NE Scotland - To unsubscribe send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] containing the line: unsubscribe lace [EMAIL PROTECTED] For help, write to [EMAIL PROTECTED] - To unsubscribe send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] containing the line: unsubscribe lace [EMAIL PROTECTED] For help, write to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: [lace] Bookmark patterns
However, April's booklets contain only a photograph of each bookmark and the prickings. No instructions, no working diagrams. So probably not ideal for a beginner. Barbara Joyce Snoqualmie, WA USA Ellen, April Lind of April's Bobbins has 2 small booklets of bookmark patterns. Self published and inexpensive. She can be reached at [EMAIL PROTECTED]mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] or PO Box 60008, Shoreline, WA 98160 She paints beautiful bobbins also, but has been ill lately and may be low on supply. Lorri - Original Message - From: Ellen Zigaitismailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] To: lace@arachne.commailto:lace@arachne.com Sent: Monday, March 13, 2006 3:44 AM Subject: [lace] New here Hello everyone. My name is Ellen and I've recently started playing around with bobbin lace. So far I'm loving it to bits! I've made several very gorgeous bookmarks with my little kit and with the help of The Bobbin Lace Manual that I ordered along with my kit. Since I'm still in the learning stages, bookmarks are the perfect instant gratification project for me. Are there any books or websites anyone could recommend to me that have more bookmarks? Searching on my own, I'm not having much luck, though I might just not know what I'm looking for. I've gotten spiders and fans down pretty pat and would love to move on to something a little more challenging. Thanks so much in advance! Ellen - To unsubscribe send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED]mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] containing the line: unsubscribe lace [EMAIL PROTECTED]mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]. For help, write to [EMAIL PROTECTED]mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] - To unsubscribe send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] containing the line: unsubscribe lace [EMAIL PROTECTED] For help, write to [EMAIL PROTECTED] - To unsubscribe send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] containing the line: unsubscribe lace [EMAIL PROTECTED] For help, write to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
[lace] Lacemakers of Puget Sound - WAS Oops! Sorry
This might just be a good opportunity for me to tell the list that the web site of Lacemakers of Puget Sound is finally updated, current and ready for prime time (almost!). http://www.lacemakers.org Ellen, and all other interested Arachnes, please visit our site for information on our meetings. We meet in Kent, WA, on the fourth Saturday of the month. We have free lessons for beginners every September through January, but we also welcome newbies at any time for help, encouragement and instruction. It's a good idea, though, to let us know if you're planning to come to get instructions so we can make sure someone will be there and ready to help you. There is an email link on the page (it comes to me!). We love to have visitors! Barbara Joyce Snoqualmie, WA USA I'm sorry, I didn't even think about putting my location in. I'm from St. Louis, MO and will be returning there soon, but I'm currently in Bremerton, WA while my husband is stationed here. Thanks very much for the welcoms and the suggestions I've already gotten! Ellen Bremerton, WA St. Louis, MO - To unsubscribe send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] containing the line: unsubscribe lace [EMAIL PROTECTED] For help, write to [EMAIL PROTECTED] - To unsubscribe send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] containing the line: unsubscribe lace [EMAIL PROTECTED] For help, write to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: [lace] Helpful cheap tools
Does anyone have the reverse tweezers shown on Holly Van Sciver's web site? It's more expensive than hackle pliers, but I'm wondering if it is easier to squeeze than hackle pliers, and whether it holds a fine thread as well, and perhaps is easier to manipulate on the pillow due to its slim profile. Barbara Joyce, who never, ever breaks a thread ;-) Bev wrote:There is an unfortunate disadvantage to the stability of the hackle pliers - you do need strong fingers to open them. V. frustrating if the fingers are affected, such as with arthritis :( This is true. But there are different types of h/p devices, some being stiffer than others. And the electrical wire clamp requires very little finger strength. I'd suggest testing them in the shops to see if one will suit you. Clay -- Clay Blackwell Lynchburg, VA - To unsubscribe send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] containing the line: unsubscribe lace [EMAIL PROTECTED] For help, write to [EMAIL PROTECTED] - To unsubscribe send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] containing the line: unsubscribe lace [EMAIL PROTECTED] For help, write to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: [lace] Tallies/ Leaves
So, dear Clay, please tell all of us--How do you make a leaf and how do you make a tally? Barbara Having JUST taken a class with Christine Springett with the specific goal to learn to make a respectable leaf, (mission accomplished!), I can report that while I initially struggled to make a leaf the same way I make tallies, she encouraged me, saying that if I could do it that way, she would not tell me no. She added that once a beautiful leaf is made, no one will ever know which way you used. But my efforts were not rewarded until I caved in and worked the leaf like she demonstrated. So for me, a tallie is made one way, a leaf another. Clay Clay Blackwell [EMAIL PROTECTED] - To unsubscribe send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] containing the line: unsubscribe lace [EMAIL PROTECTED] For help, write to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: [lace] Tonder book
Another possibility with ebay. I'm in the US and have occasionally been alerted to an ebay item that says in the listing the UK seller will ship only to the UK. Assuming there's time, I have written to the seller and asked if they would be willing to ship to the US (and if so, what the shipping cost would be). Paypal is an easy way for a US buyer to pay the seller in GBP. There are other ways, too, though--there are international money orders, wire transfers, etc. There are, of course, fees attached to these methods, but it is do-able. In my case, every UK seller I've written to has said, sure, I'll ship to the US. I don't know why they limit themselves, when, as Alice wrote, the selling price goes way up when they open their sale to the rest of the world. Barbara Joyce Snoqualmie, WA USA Alice wrote: I've been shopping for a Tonder book since I wish to take a class in the subject. There's another currently for sale, obviously at a high price because there is a reserve. Ebay reserves now have to be GBP50 or more, so it's pointless bidding less. If the Skovgaard book is only available to the UK, it usually sells for between GBP20 and GBP35 - I've seen it as low as GBP12. As soon as it's offered worldwide, then the bids rockets, and if you click on the number beside the winning bidder's ID, you usually find it's been sold to the US. That's probably why the current seller (item number 8384196425) is confident he/she'll get in excess of GBP50. If you have friend in the UK, write to a seller who will only ship to the UK (usually because they won't accept payment in currencies other than sterling) and ask if your friend can pay the seller in sterling for you if you win, but post the book it to you. Then reimburse your friend somehow - easy of they have a Paypal account. Needs to be a friend in case there are problems like it going missing in the post. Or get a friend to bid and pay for the book and then sell it to you for the same price as paid plus postages. Jean in Poole, Dorset, UK - To unsubscribe send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] containing the line: unsubscribe lace [EMAIL PROTECTED] For help, write to [EMAIL PROTECTED] - To unsubscribe send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] containing the line: unsubscribe lace [EMAIL PROTECTED] For help, write to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: [lace] cleaning laces
If it's any help, the chemical composition of Orvus is Sodium Lauryl Sulfate. In the US, this formulation is also used to wash horses, and can be purchased in big buckets at feed stores. Orvus is PG's brand name for this formulation. Barbara Joyce Snoqualmie, WA USA Hello all spiders, I know this is a thread that has been discussed before and I have a lot of information that Jeri has supplied on this list. Anybody interested look at: http://www.honitonlace.com/honitonlace/shop/cleaning2.htm Now my question to European lacemakers is: Is there any product equivalent to American Orvus from Procter Gamble? Regards. Carolina. Barcelona. Spain. - To unsubscribe send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] containing the line: unsubscribe lace [EMAIL PROTECTED] For help, write to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: [lace] Need help with identifying a bobbin winder
Hi Mary, There's an Arachne webshots site where you could post the picture. I'm sure someone can tell you how to do that, and they will! If, however, that isn't an option for you for some reason, I will volunteer to post the photo on my web site. You could send me a digital photo via email. Or, if you don't have it in digital form, you could snail mail the photo to me, and I can scan it and put up. If you would like to pursue this option, send me private email and we'll hash out the details. My email address is bejoyce at mac dot com. I know I won't be able to help you identify the winder, but it will be fun to see it! Barbara Joyce Snoqualmie, WA USA Hi, I recently have acquired what I believe to be an antique bobbin winder. I'm sure it is missing a piece (like a mini-skein holder or something? Would anyone be willing to let me send them pictures to see if you could help me with it? It is allegedly from the late 1700s but maybe more like 1800s. I am current with my virus protection on my computer so they will be safe files. Thanks for any help you can give me. Mary Shue Ann Arbor, MI - To unsubscribe send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] containing the line: unsubscribe lace [EMAIL PROTECTED] For help, write to [EMAIL PROTECTED] - To unsubscribe send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] containing the line: unsubscribe lace [EMAIL PROTECTED] For help, write to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
[lace] The Lace-Maker magnets are available!
A few days ago I posted that I had sent an inquiry to the company in Scotland that can supply magnets of The Lace-Maker by Caspar Netscher. To my surprise and delight, I received a response from them, and they DO sell retail. The response is below, including all the info one would need to place an order. I sure hope they have tons of them in stock, because I think they're going to get some orders! Barbara Joyce Snoqualmie, WA USA Dear Mrs Joyce Thank you for your email enquiry dated 27 January: We would advise that the cost of 1 magnet 'The Lace-Maker' would be GBP2.00 The airmail postage from the UK to the USA would be GBP1.50 On retail sales there is no minimum order, but if you would like to order more we can advise the increase in postage. If you would like to pay by credit card, we require the card number, security number on the reverse side of the card, the expiry date and the name and billing address for the card. Thank you for your interest in our products and we look forward to hearing from you. Kind regards Liz Scott Customworks 1/3 Bowmains Industrial Estate Linlithgow Road Bo'ness West Lothian EH51 0QG Scotland UK Tel: +44 (0)1506 821910 Fax: +44 (0)1506 821911 www.customworks.co.uk email: [EMAIL PROTECTED] - To unsubscribe send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] containing the line: unsubscribe lace [EMAIL PROTECTED] For help, write to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: [lace] Re: lacemaker-magnet
T and all, I did send them email to find out how many one would have to order, and how much they cost per each; also what the shipping cost would be to the US. I'll post if/when I get a response from them. I'm up for ordering the minimum number and then making them available at my cost to anyone who wants one. Depending, of course, on what that minimum order would be. Ten, yeah sure. Fifty, maybe. 1,000--Nope! Barbara Joyce Snoqualmie, WA USA On Jan 26, 2006, at 12:12, Ilske Thomsen wrote: At our Kunsthalle I found a magnet with The lace-maker from Caspar Netscher on it. Manufactored by Customworks. It is a big serie with famous pintings on them. If you are interested in live in or nearby a city with an art museum it's worth to have a look. As many people know, American refrigerators are _huge_ (at least in comparison with the European ones I've seen). And we use them as bulletin boards, pinning all kinds of notes/memoranda on them. With magnets :) So I've been interested in pretty/interesting/unusual magnets ever since I arrived here in January of '73. Since '89, and the beginning of my lace adventure, I've been trying to collect lace-related magnets and found that there aren't all that many of them available (possibly because most lace is made in Europe, and European fridges aren't as big as ours, and can't accomodate as many magnets. While here, we have big fridges, but there are many more subjects competing for the space). At any rate, I've often been reduced to making my own magnets -- mostly from stickers with lace on them (the few I made with real lace in them had been given away). I've built a nice-enough collection (with some super examples, the nicest being a ceramic tile, ca 2 square, with a gold image of a lacemaker and Almagro on a navy-blue background), but the lace-related magnets are still in the minority on my fridge. So, naturally, I was _intensely_ interested in Ilske's posting... :) Found Customworks (based in Scotland) via Google, and found the relevant magnet in their northern masters collection: http://www.customworks.co.uk/tmenu/products_list.asp Also found that they do not sell retail; only wholesale. Couldn't find out the details of either numbers or pricing; my 'puter skills will stretch but _so_ far g; if I had, I might have been willing to go for it (and then raffle off the excess), if the wholesale wasn't too big and the price reasonable. I also noticed http://www.customworks.co.uk/tmenu/home.asp that, in addition to the stock they carry (the Netscher among them), they'll make magnets to order, from whatever image one wants. I think that might be a venue worth exploring (for people who are more puter-savvy than I am g)... An Arachne magnet (for sale with a year's commems)? A magnet with a lace group logo to put into a goodie bag for a Lace Day or Conference/Convention? I expect magnets, even bought wholesale, would be cheaper than pins (badges), and there are so many possible images ot put on them... Yours, reluctant to stick her stamp collection onto magnets, - To unsubscribe send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] containing the line: unsubscribe lace [EMAIL PROTECTED] For help, write to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: [lace] IOLI Bulletin - question
Tamara wrote: What's the difference between a blanket stitch and a buttonhole one? There is a wonderful book by Marion Scoular entitled Advice is for listening to--not necessarily taking!! She devotes several pages (with illustrations) to the difference between blanket stitches (used in Hardanger edgings, among other applications) and buttonhole stitches, which actually get a knot at the fabric edge of each stitch. Impossible to describe in words, unfortunately. If you know anyone who does embroidery, or are near an embroidery guild, you might be able to take a look at this book--pages 38 and 42. Barbara Joyce Snoqualmie, WA USA - To unsubscribe send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] containing the line: unsubscribe lace [EMAIL PROTECTED] For help, write to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
[lace] Wreath Boxes - Again!
Today I found something at Michael's crafts store that might be of interest. It is a huge square wreath box. It's made by Sterlite, and says it's 27-7/8 x 8-3/8, and takes a 24 wreath. My 24 straw pillow fits inside with room to spare. It's high enough to take three pillows stacked on top of each other (assuming no projects on them), and the lip snaps on nicely. Pricey at $20, but with a 40% off coupon, not a bad deal. The only real problem is where to store such a large container. I'm working on solving that one! Barbara Joyce Snoqualmie, WA USA - To unsubscribe send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] containing the line: unsubscribe lace [EMAIL PROTECTED] For help, write to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: [lace] Russian lace album
Ebay has removed this item. Anne No, they haven't. I suspect you clicked on an incomplete URL. If you wish to view the item, go to www.ebay.com and search for item number 7376691787. Did anyone notice that the seller never once mentions bobbin lace? He says they're crocheted, and I'm certainly no expert, but they look like bobbin lace to me! It will be interesting to see how much it goes for. Barbara Joyce Snoqualmie, WA USA - Original Message - From: Laurie Waters [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: Lace@arachne.com Sent: Thursday, December 22, 2005 8:55 AM Subject: [lace] Russian lace album People might want to pay close attention to this rather amazing item just posted on Ebay: http://cgi.ebay.com/Antique-Russian-Hand-Made-Lace-Pattern-Book-examples_W0QQ itemZ7376691787QQcategoryZ2219QQrdZ1QQcmdZViewItem - To unsubscribe send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] containing the line: unsubscribe lace [EMAIL PROTECTED] For help, write to [EMAIL PROTECTED] - To unsubscribe send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] containing the line: unsubscribe lace [EMAIL PROTECTED] For help, write to [EMAIL PROTECTED] - To unsubscribe send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] containing the line: unsubscribe lace [EMAIL PROTECTED] For help, write to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
[lace] Christmas Card Exchange page updates
I promise not to keep posting about this, but I wanted to remind you all that I'm still receiving scans of new and beautiful lace, and as I receive them, they go up for you to see and enjoy. There have been five additions since the original page was unveiled. So please keep checking back from time to time! The date will be changed to reflect the most recent additions. New lace is at the top. There's a link to my email address at the very bottom. http://homepage.mac.com/bejoyce/arachne2005/ I also want to say how much I appreciate all the emails I've received thanking Bev and me for setting up the exchange and the web page. You're all most welcome! Enjoy, and Happy Holidays to all, Barbara Joyce Snoqualmie, WA USA - To unsubscribe send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] containing the line: unsubscribe lace [EMAIL PROTECTED] For help, write to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
[lace] Christmas Card Exchange Page is Up!
Before I give you the URL, a few quick tidbits: First I'd like to thank Bev for all her work in organizing this exchange. It has been such fun to see all the lace, and for each of us to make a new friend in another part of the world. Thanks, Bev! Second, please, please do send me email with any additions, corrections, changes or comments regarding the web site. My email address is at the bottom of the web page. I would love to have additional information such as the full names and locations of some of the lacemakers and recipients, names of designers of the lace, source of the design, threads used, and anything else that you think might be of interest to others. Third, there is a gift on the page to all of us: Laura Sandison designed a Rosaline Snowball for her card, and she has provided the pricking and instructions. If you click on the link below her card, you will be able to download the material. Thank you, Laura! The images are posted in the order I received them. As I continue to receive scans and photos, I will change the date at the top of the page so you will know whether there have been additions since your last visit. I will now start posting the newest images at the top of the page. As you scroll down, once you recognize a piece of lace, you'll know you've seen all the newest pieces. Important: If you haven't received your card yet, it is very likely that it is delayed in the mail. Just in case your sender posted a photo, you might like to wait to get your card before visiting the site. And now, here it is for your viewing enjoyment: http://homepage.mac.com/bejoyce/arachne2005/ Merry Christmas and a very Happy New Year to all! Barbara Joyce Snoqualmie, WA USA - To unsubscribe send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] containing the line: unsubscribe lace [EMAIL PROTECTED] For help, write to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: [lace] card exchange
Janice Blair wrote: I am looking forward to Barbara telling us when we can go look at the cards. They sound so wonderful that my simple creation will pale in comparison, but we mustn't make it look hard for the newbies to contribute to an exchange by working such wonders of lace that it puts them off. Well, that is my excuse for an easy design. :-) Janice People who design their own lace--and have their designs chosen by others-- don't need to make excuses! :-) Barbara, who is just as eager as the rest of you to raise the curtain! - To unsubscribe send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] containing the line: unsubscribe lace [EMAIL PROTECTED] For help, write to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: [lace] ornament scans
Hi Lynn, Alice made a color photocopy of your ornaments and mailed it to me for the web site. I've scanned the copy and it came out quite well. If you have a digital scan of them, it would be fine for you to send it to me. If not, I can use what I have. My email address is [EMAIL PROTECTED]. bejoyce at mac dot com. Thanks, Barbara Hi, Alice sent me a scan of the ornaments I sent her, do I need to send it to someone for posting purposes? Please let me know. Thank you, Lynn - To unsubscribe send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] containing the line: unsubscribe lace [EMAIL PROTECTED] For help, write to [EMAIL PROTECTED] - To unsubscribe send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] containing the line: unsubscribe lace [EMAIL PROTECTED] For help, write to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: [lace] Christmas Card Exchange web site
Bowing to Bev's request, I will wait to get the go-ahead from her before posting the URL for the Christmas Card Exchange web site. This means that, although it won't be posted before 12/15, it might be significantly later. Bev will let me know when she thinks the time is right. I also want to say that if I offended or embarrassed anyone by posting the list of names of the lacemakers who had sent me scans, I certainly want to apologize. Since the names will be on the web site, along with the lace, in a couple of weeks, it never occurred to me that anyone would object. Sorry! Barbara Joyce Snoqualmie, WA USA On 12/9/05, Barbara Joyce [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On December 15, I will post the URL for everyone to see the scans of this year's lace and cards. Actually - Barbara *please contact me first* - there may be some cards pending arrival, and it would be a shame to spoil the surprise for the recipient, and I may have information to that effect. And another headsup for 'next time' if we do this again - rather than list names, which may cause embarassment, sto the list a reminder that you have done so, and those who haven't received a message from you but would expect to, can reconnect. Also the info accompanying the scans should especially include who to credit for the pattern and/or the source. -- bye for now Bev in Sooke BC (on Vancouver Island, west coast of Canada) Cdn. floral bobbins www.woodhavenbobbins.com - To unsubscribe send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] containing the line: unsubscribe lace [EMAIL PROTECTED] For help, write to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
[lace] Christmas Card Exchange web site
On December 15, I will post the URL for everyone to see the scans of this year's lace and cards. Meanwhile, a few tidbits to whet your appetite: I have received scans of 23 different pieces of lace. I thought it might be a good idea to post the names of the makers of the lace I've received. I tried really hard to keep them organized, and I don't think I lost anyone, but sometimes email goes astray, and mistakes do happen. If you don't see your name below and think you sent me a scan of your lace, please send it again [EMAIL PROTECTED]. I will continue to accept new scans as long as people send them to me. When you receive your card, if the maker's name isn't shown, please feel free to scan the lace and send the scan to me. One more thing--when the page goes up, you'll see that there's a lot of information on some listings, precious little on others. Please feel free to send me any additions and/or corrections. It's no trouble to go in and add or change text. OK, the lacemakers are (in the order their lace scans were received: Brenda Paternoster Malvary Cole Jane Dobinson Jeannette Fischer Aurelia Loveman Shirley Meier Sue ? (Southampton UK) Kathy Hensel Bev Walker Barbara Joyce Tamara Duvall Pam Mattioli Carol Melton Annelore Stone Debbie Mouzon Karen Butler Lisa Thompson Ilske Thomsen Anne Nicholas Janice Blair Nova Pate Alice Howell Andrea Lamble Real eye candy coming! Barbara Joyce Snoqualmie, WA USA [EMAIL PROTECTED] - To unsubscribe send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] containing the line: unsubscribe lace [EMAIL PROTECTED] For help, write to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: [lace] card exchange
I can fill in a bit of the information, and it's probably a good idea to furnish it to all. Please send a scan or photo of your lace--the one you made and/or the one you received to [EMAIL PROTECTED]. It would be interesting to learn a little more about the lace, such as who made it, to whom it was sent, what thread, the name of the designer, etc. I'll be happy to post almost anything you'd like to include. I have received a good number of scans (can't recall if I received one from Jeanette, and I'm not at the computer that has the scans on it, so I can't check right now), but am eager for more. So please get out that camera or scanner and join in the fun! Today I received an absolutely wonderful card from my lace exchange partner in England, Andrea Lamble. It's a darling multi-colored robin, and you'll all get to see him in a couple of weeks when the web site goes up. Bev, thank you so much for organizing this year's exchange. What fun! :-) Barbara Joyce Snoqualmie, WA USA [EMAIL PROTECTED] Hi Bev, I know the deadline is tomorrow for the card exchange, and I have sent and received my cards already, but I cannot find the email that I know I saved regarding the email address that we are to send our scans to for the web page. Can you repeat that information as I am sure I am not the only one to be forgetful. I will send a scan of the card I sent to Martina De Wille, in Schmidmuhlen, Germany. Jeanette, in Kleinmond, South Africa, would you like me to scan the card I received or have you sent a scan off already? Your card will go up with my other lace cards tomorrow as I am in the process of decorating my home for Christmas as I have a big party for my English group next Sunday, 29 for dinner! Lots of lace already on the tree but I have to collect other pieces that are on permanent exhibit around the house to add to them. Thanks, Janice Janice Blair Crystal Lake, 50 miles northwest of Chicago, Illinois, USA http://www.lacemakersofillinois.org/ - To unsubscribe send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] containing the line: unsubscribe lace [EMAIL PROTECTED] For help, write to [EMAIL PROTECTED] - To unsubscribe send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] containing the line: unsubscribe lace [EMAIL PROTECTED] For help, write to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
[lace] Matching Thread Size and Pricking
I know many of you are far ahead of me in your lacemaking knowledge, and this will be old hat to you. But I had a major epiphany today, and I wanted to share it, in case it might prompt other lacemakers to think this question through. I've had a copy of Threads for Lace by Brenda Paternoster for years, and have used it a great deal. It works wonderfully in cases where a given thread is recommended and you want to make an appropriate substitution. But what happens if you come across a pricking where no thread is listed or recommended? How can you decide what thread to use? There is actually a short section in the book on selecting correct thread size, but it never seemed to mean much to me. And although I'd looked at the page on Brenda's web site that gives a more detailed explanation and a chart, again, I'd never taken the trouble to try to digest the information. Now I've come across a pricking I want to use--and guess what? There's no indication of what thread to use. So I was forced to apply myself and use that page! And the light bulb in my pointy little head went off big-time! Not only do I know what thread to use, but I have it on hand! And I know I'll always be able to figure it out in the future. If you haven't already incorporated this information into your store of lacemaking knowledge, I would humbly recommend you take a look at the following and actually do some measuring on a couple of prickings as an exercise: http://paternoster.orpheusweb.co.uk/lace/threadsize/threadsize.html Brenda, thank you, thank you, thank you for this terrific information! Barbara Joyce Snoqualmie, WA USA - To unsubscribe send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] containing the line: unsubscribe lace [EMAIL PROTECTED] For help, write to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: [lace] Re: Danish translation, please?
Thank you Aage, for that further bit of information. It fills in the final missing bit of information as to the difference between gangpar and hakpar. I love Tonder lace, and this is such a beautiful, gorgeous design! Thanks again to all who responded to my inquiry. Barbara Joyce Snoqualmie, WA USA Where we have a dusting of white stuff on the grass this morning! Hello Everybody, A small addition to Tamara's and Dorte's emails about hakpar. Actually hakpar means weaver but ONLY in connection with the dent between two scallops. All other places the expression gangpar (weaver) is used. The dent is in Danish named hak and it may forexample consist of 4 pasive pairs and one hakpar (weaver). We also use the word haknaal (hak-pin) which is the pin exactly between two scallops. It is a very old but among most Tonder-lacemakers common known expression. Greetings from a frozen Denmark Aage - To unsubscribe send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] containing the line: unsubscribe lace [EMAIL PROTECTED] For help, write to [EMAIL PROTECTED] - To unsubscribe send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] containing the line: unsubscribe lace [EMAIL PROTECTED] For help, write to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
