[lace-chat] Spider silk

2008-12-16 Thread rictorr8
Hello to all -

There's a great article about spider silk that people enjoy reading in the 
current Science News. It's really fascinating.

http://www.sciencenews.org/view/feature/id/38344/title/Silk


Happy Holidays to everyone!

Rikki in cold wintry Utah

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[lace-chat] monitor cleaner

2008-10-02 Thread rictorr8
This remarkable monitor cleaner works online!

http://www.actrix.co.nz/special/cyberclean.html

regards from Utah in early fall

RikkiT

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[lace] Laurie Waters

2008-09-27 Thread rictorr8
Dear List - could Laurie Waters please contact me off-list, or someone please 
send me her email address? Thanks!

Enjoy the WEEKEND!

Regards to all from Utah, where it's sunny Indian Summer

Rikki T

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Re: [lace-chat] Invading hordes...

2008-09-21 Thread rictorr8
On Fri, 19 Sep 2008, Martha Krieg wrote:



 only a matter of time)... they seem to like the cozy dark spaces
 under the refrigerator and the stove, but obviously roam the counters
 and stove top as well...  Clearly, the 21.5-year-old cat is no
 deterrent at all, as I've seen them flit from one place to another
 while she was in the same room and neither of them seemed aware of
 the other. Can't get another cat until this one dies - it would be
 just too traumatic for the old one


If your elderly cat can tolerate mice, surely she could tolerate a kitten? 
Might enjoy the company.

Go for it, is my advice! :))

Rikki T in Utah

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[lace-chat] salesmen

2008-07-26 Thread rictorr8
Hi Y'all - hope it's a nice weekenf for you all out there!

My friend send me a link to this article on tips and tricks car salesmen use, 
that others might be interested in...The principles apply to a larger range of 
salesmen types.


http://www.cartalk.com/content/features/deepplaid/index.html


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Ricky T in Utah

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Re: [lace] Groningen: thank you!

2008-07-25 Thread rictorr8
 Mega dittos!

Best to all,
Ricki T in Utah


 


 

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Alice, thank you for sharing your adventures, I enjoyed reading them.

Lindy, thank you for sharing your pictures, it was fun to visualize what was
going on!

I hope there are others that will share their stories and photos too.

Irene

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[lace-chat] Ebay counterfeit Tiffany's

2008-07-19 Thread rictorr8
Hi Y'all -

Here's a little summary of a new US court ruling on counterfeit Tiffany's 
merchandise sold on Ebay -- looks like we're not looking at the issue with the 
same jaundiced eye as France was last month. 

TIFFANY, INC. V. EBAY, INC.

(U.S. Dist. Ct., S.D.N.Y., July 14, 2008) - A federal judge ruled that
eBay is not liable for contributory trademark infringement for
third-party auction sales of counterfeit Tiffany merchandise, and that
the web company's use of Tiffany trademarks in its advertising,
homepage, and internet advertising links is a protected fair use of the
jewelry company's marks.

Regards,
Ricky T in Utah - nice summer days here

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[lace] Orvus - question

2008-07-13 Thread rictorr8
Dear All,

I know Jeri and others have recommended Orvus for cleaning lace. I bought some 
at a feed store, and am wondering if I got the right thing. The label says 
industrial product - not for home use. I did some research and it is supposed 
to be very mild, so I'm wondering why it would be labeled like that. Anyone 
know? Did I get the wrong type, or what is the concern with home use?

Thanks for any guidance 

Best wishes -
Ricki T in Utah where it's warm and sunny and not tremendously hot, like it was 
last summer!

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Re: [lace] Orvus - question

2008-07-13 Thread rictorr8
 Thank you, Francis and Clay! Very interesting, and I'm glad to understand the 
difference. The industrial kind I got has a lot of bubbles - plenty! It seems 
to work just fine. It wasn't really inexpensive - about $25 for a gallon jug - 
but a little bit goes a long long way. I saw that some people use it for carpet 
cleaning. I've got enough to do that, I guess, plus my bits of lace...

Thanks again! I appreciate the information very much.

Regards,
Ricki T in Utah


 


 

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Hallo,?

there is a big difference?

it is all in the number of carbon-end(atoms) on each Nat-Lau-Sul-molecul?

the more of them on it, the more it will work?

for animals they use the less carbonfree atoms?

for special uses like antique cloth washing they use the more/higher 
number of free carbon atoms at the molecule ends?

it is offcourse rediculous overpriced but the more carbon atoms the more 
expensive in production?
?

but and now it cums, practicly you will not see any difference what so ever?

it will clean...it will make bubbles..?

who for gods name will start counting bubbles?

because that is what will happen less in the animal one. less 
bubbles, less fun for the cows, pigs and horses when we wash them?
?

the moral of the story?

if it cleans an elephant, it will clean surely your small binch-lace tooo?
?

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Clay Blackwell schreef:?

 Hi Ricki -?

?

 I'm not an expert on the subject, but having also bought a vast 
 supply in a feed store, and compared it to the tiny supply you get 
 labeled for home use, I can say that there seems to be no difference 
 at all!!  But they would much rather have you buy it by the half ounce 
 for home use, because it costs ever so much more that way!!!?

 It probably also has to do with the fact that companies cover their 
 products for liability, based on the intended use of the product.  If 
 you bought the farm store soap and had an issue with it which came to 
 a lawsuit, they could say you had used it for purposes other than they 
 intended.?

 Just my 2 cents worth...?

?

 Clay?

?

 Clay Blackwell?

 Lynchburg, VA, USA?

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 I know Jeri and others have recommended Orvus for cleaning lace. I 
 bought some at a feed store, and am wondering if I got the right 
 thing. The label says industrial product - not for home use. I did 
 some research and it is supposed to be very mild, so I'm wondering 
 why it would be labeled like that. Anyone know? Did I get the wrong 
 type, or what is the concern with home use??

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 Thanks for any guidance ?

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 Best wishes -?

 Ricki T in Utah where it's warm and sunny and not tremendously hot, 
 like it was last summer!?

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[lace-chat] extreme ironing

2008-07-13 Thread rictorr8
hey - y'all ready for the newest sport?

http://www.extremeironing.com/

:)

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Ricky T in Utah

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Fwd: [lace-chat] Advice on equipment

2008-06-29 Thread rictorr8
I don't know if it's a fault with my lap top, or if it's where my sleeve or 

whatever brushes the touch pad, but I also find that sometimes the cursor 

shoots of up the page and what I am typing is suddenly buried in the middle of 

earlier sentences.  Does anyone else have this problem?  



 My laptop suddenly developed this problem recently. In my case, it did not do 
that before, and I suspect it is likely connected with some other serious 
problems I've had with it over the past several months. I recently had to have 
the whole thing reformatted (twice) after it crashed and would not reboot. 
Getting it reformatted did not fix the problem. Maybe it's something to do with 
the hardware wiring of the keyboard? I don't know. 



I love my laptop better than the PC we have at home - or at least I did, until 
these problems developed. It is too frustrating to try to type on my laptop now 
because of the jumping cursor problem. I use it primarily only for internet 
surfing now, until I can get it fixed or replaced. 



I like the portability of the laptop, since I'm not generally tied to having to 
have accessories (like printers) involved with my computer work. 



Regards,

Ricky T in UT





 





 



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Although I love my laptop, and it was a life saver while I was living with 

Dad, I am really glad to get home to my PC for one specific reason.  



I have a split key board and have got so used to using it that I found it 

really slow and irritating typing on the laptop straight one.  Malvary also has 

a 

split keyboard and because of the 'kink' in her wrist where she demolished it 

falling a few years ago, has real physical reasons for preferring hers. 



I don't know if it's a fault with my lap top, or if it's where my sleeve or 

whatever brushes the touch pad, but I also find that sometimes the cursor 

shoots of up the page and what I am typing is suddenly buried in the middle of 

earlier sentences.  Does anyone else have this problem?  



I expect I could plug a different keyboard in to the back, in the same way as 

most of us seem to have a real mouse, but then it starts being a non-portable 

option and also would take up more desk space than my flat screen and key 

board do.



Jacquie in Lincolnshire



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[lace-chat] pleated gathering?

2008-06-29 Thread rictorr8
Hi Y'all,



I figure someone out there probably knows what I'm trying ask. I don't
know the right word for it. Does anyone know what the name is for the
sewing machine foot that sort of makes a row of little tiny pleats for
gathering? Does anyone have one? Do you like how it works? I have a
Bernina, and I don't think my attachment box has one of those, and
maybe it would be worth buying one, so I'm wondering if anyone out here
has any knowledge or experience to guide me in making a decision? 



Thanks!!!



Regards,

Ricky T in sunny virtually hot, but nice summery SLC

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Re: [lace-chat] pleated gathering?

2008-06-29 Thread rictorr8
 Hi Sue,

Thanks for the tip. I have done lots of gathering in my day, and that's a good 
idea I'll keep in mind.? But at this point I am really interested in trying to 
learn how to make those teeny tiny pleats for gathering that you see in some 
antique clothing, if you know what I mean! I'm trying doing it by hand, but 
it's not completely successful at this point

Regards,
Ricki T


 


 

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I have a Viking machine and don't know about Bernina feet.  I believe there 
are proper feet to do small pleats if that is what you are looking for, but 
if all you are trying to do is gather fabric, like in the skirt of a dress, 
the simplest thing to do is to zigzag over cord (eg heavy crochet cotton). 
This works so much more easily than the traditional two rows of parallel 
stitching.?

Sue ?

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Re: [lace-chat] pleated gathering?

2008-06-29 Thread rictorr8
 Hi all,
I guess everyone else is confused what I'm talking about. Wish I knew! It's not 
smocking or pintucks. I mean little teeny tiny pleats, going in one direction, 
not box pleats. They give a very nice, neat look to the gathering I've seen in 
some antique clothing. I don't know what it's called, or how they did it, but 
there must be machine foot for it, I assume! Anyone know??

Thanks for all the ideas and suggestionsI appreciate everyone's willingness 
to help out! Y'all are great! :)

Ricky T


 


 

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I think you mean smocking.  I don't have a foot and have not done it since I 
was 
in school a long looong time ago.
Janice

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Thanks for the tip. I have done lots of gathering in my day, and that's a good 
idea I'll keep in mind.? But at this point I am really interested in trying to 
learn how to make those teeny tiny pleats for gathering that you see in some 
antique clothing, if you know what I mean! I'm trying doing it by hand, but 
it's 
not completely successful at this point

Regards,
Ricki T


 


 

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Sent: Sun, 29 Jun 2008 3:59 pm
Subject: Re: [lace-chat] pleated gathering? 









I have a Viking machine and don't know about Bernina feet.  I believe there 
are proper feet to do small pleats if that is what you are looking for, but 
if all you are trying to do is gather fabric, like in the skirt of a dress, 
the simplest thing to do is to zigzag over cord (eg heavy crochet cotton). 
This works so much more easily than the traditional two rows of parallel 
stitching.?

Sue ?

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Re: [lace-chat] pleated gathering?

2008-06-29 Thread rictorr8
 Yes, that's it! Pin-pleats is exactly what I'm talking about!
Too bad there's no foot to do the work. There should be! It's really a 
beautiful effect. 

Guess I'll try to keep at it with needle and thread until I get the hang of it, 
and find a good technique to use...unless...is your mum still around to ask for 
advice, perchance??



At least I have the name now -- pin-pleats!! Thanks, Sue! What a resource you 
listmembers are! 



Many thanks,

Ricki T





 





 



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Thinking about it pin pleats!!, literally very slightly more than the 
thickness of a pin!!?

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Never seen a foot that will do them!!?

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Sue in EY?


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 I guess everyone else is confused what I'm talking about. Wish I  knew! It's 
 not smocking or pintucks. I mean little teeny tiny  pleats, going in one 
 direction, not box pleats. They give a very  nice, neat look to the 
 gathering I've seen in some antique clothing.  I don't know what it's 
 called, or how they did it, but there must be  machine foot for it, I 
 assume! Anyone know???


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 Thanks for all the ideas and suggestionsI appreciate everyone's  
 willingness to help out! Y'all are great! :)?


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Re: [lace-chat] pleated gathering?

2008-06-29 Thread rictorr8
 Aha ! Thanks, Joy, and one and all for the great ideas, links, terminology and 
suggestions. It looks to me like cartridge pleating is not flat the way what 
I'm talking about is, but it is regular like that. I think they are similar. I 
can use this method, and tack them down in one direction, like knife pleats, in 
the cotton fabric I'm working. Actually, I have an antique piece I'm reworking 
now, and it looks like someone used to have those tiny pin-pleats, 
knife-pleats, cartridge-pleats or whatever in there and it's been picked out. 
Darn it. But at least, I'm learning. I can use the marks in the cloth to resew 
the lines, draw it up, then tack them down in one direction, going back over 
it, before I attach the piece above.

I really appreciate the great ideas, and leads. Any others that might come 
along too! You all are really fabulous I mean it!

Regards,
Ricki T in SLC, heading for another (short!) workweek...


 


 

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On 6/29/08 7:29 PM, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:?
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 . . . I am really interested in trying to learn how to 
 make those teeny tiny pleats for gathering that you see 
 in some antique clothing,?
?

Some old books I read waxed quite contemptuous of women so 
lazy that they didn't stroke their gathers; I gather that 
this was done by putting the eye-end of the needle into each 
individual pleat and stroking downward to settle it.?
?

Since it helps with machine gathering so much, I suspect 
that it would help to make *two* rows of your hand gathering 
stitches.  Two points determine a line, so securing the 
crease at two points would make it more likely to run in the 
wanted direction.  The stitches must, of course, be exactly 
the same in both rows.  It would probably help to mark the 
fabric first, or practice on gingham or some other fabric 
with woven-in guide marks.?
?

Or, if you can see the weave, go under two threads and over 
six, or however many will make the pleats of the desired 
width.  (A stitch must always take up at least two threads 
of the fabric, as a single thread is likely to break.)?
?

http://vintagesewing.info/index.html probably has a book 
that explains how stroked gathers are made.?
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It do!?
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http://vintagesewing.info/19th/1892-sn/sn-02.html#gather?
?

Note that it says to use the point of the needle to stroke 
the gathers; other books criticize this practice on the 
grounds that the sharp point weakens the fabric.  (Oops: 
the material list specifies a *blunt* needle.)?
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If your fingers cramp, the needle can be mounted in a pin 
vise.?
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west of Fort Wayne, Indiana, U.S.A.?

where it's raining again.?
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[lace] age discoloration

2008-06-28 Thread rictorr8
Hi all -

I am now the proud possessor of some extremely age-discolored antique lace 
bought on ebay. I dunno how the seller managed to make it look white in the 
photographs, but it's actually quite (very) yellowed. Not white. 

Aside from that, it's pretty.

And it's delicate.

I have a right to return it within 7 days, which I will probably do.

However, I know I've seen some information on this list about whitening lace -- 
and it seems to me there was some conflicting information about it. 

As I recall, some of y'all said it can be bleached out by lemon juice, etc. and 
sunlight, but others said it weakens the fibers too much. 

In my own experience, I've had some success in whitening antique fabrics, but 
not always, and not completely, ever.

What do you all think? Is it worth a try to salvage this lace for use? Or 
better to just send it back so she can resell it to someone who is working with 
yellowish fabrics?

Any advice will be appreciated

Regards to all from SLC where it's warming up fast this morning,
Ricky T

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Re: [lace] age discoloration

2008-06-28 Thread rictorr8
 Thanks for your comments and question, Ilske! Yes, it's definitely old all 
right. It's a real antique, no doubt about that.

The pattern is pretty, but the color really is not. I wouldn't use it as it is. 
It's not a pretty yellowish to my eyes - and really quite dark on the exposed 
end, but I could cut that off I wouldn't use a real bleach on it - I learned my 
lesson the hard on that years ago. But I certainly wouldn't use it without 
trying to light it up a bit. I don't know if anyone would ... maybe. Who knows? 



 it's a delicate lace, but in good shape, other than the color, and I'm a 
little miffed that she obviously had some photoshopping done on it, to make it 
look that pretty white color, which I really wish it was. 

I hate to let it go to waste though. Paid about $20 for 11 yards for it, to 
give you some idea. Not a major investment. But.

I dunno. I appreciate your perspective.

In a quandry, here.

Ricky T


 

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Sent: Sat, 28 Jun 2008 10:59 am
Subject: Re: [lace] age discoloration









Hello Ricky,?

how much do you like that piece??

That it isn't really white shows, in my opinion, that it is realy old so it 
isn't a mistake. Bleaching old laces is difficult andI think a sin, sorry, 
just my opinion.?

Wish you the right way.?
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Greetings?
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Ilske which is nearly on her way to Groningen.?
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Re: [lace] age discoloration

2008-06-28 Thread rictorr8
 Thanks for the tips! I think it's probably from around the turn of the century 
- machine made definitely. 
I went ahead and put it in some lukewarm water with some washing soda, and 
sloshed it around gently. The yellow started coming out immediately - at least 
a good part of it. I rinsed it out and washed it that way several times. 
And...the unmistakable faint odor of cigar smoke starting coming up. So it's 
not just age - anyway it looks a lot lighter, and prettier - still not white, 
but a lot lighter. 

Don't know if that washing soda was a good or bad idea, but I didn't spend a 
lot on it, so, that's what I tried, and it worked quite a bit, so far

Guess I'll keep it. It is pretty, and I think will be usable. 

It was apparently part of an estate from a doll maker - she's selling off a lot 
of lace from that collection, in case others are interested - including some 
real beautiful handmade lace, and older lace - more expensive and generally in 
short(er) pieces

Any other advice for finishing this job will also be appreciated - as well as 
lectures if I did the wrong thing! Hope not, though!

Regards,
Ricki T 


 


 

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Cc: lace@arachne.com
Sent: Sat, 28 Jun 2008 12:34 pm
Subject: Re: [lace] age discoloration









Hi:?
?

One question - when you say it's old, how old do you mean? 1720? 1820? 
1920? (I once had a customer tell me her book was very old indeed - her 
grandmother gave it to her mother, her mother gave it to her, and now 
her mother was gone ... I thought it had to be at least 1880, and when 
she brought it in for repair, it was 1976. One person's old is another 
person's yesterday.)?
?

If it's old enough to be very scarce and very delicate, you could soak 
it in distilled water for a while (like, a few days). Maybe add a tiny 
amount of hydrogen peroxide, but water alone will often make a big 
difference. If you're lightening the lace with peroxide, a lot of the 
lightening will take place after the piece is out of the water, as it 
is drying, so don't despair if you don't see a lot of change while it 
is still in the water.?
?

The good thing about soaking in water alone is that you don't damage 
the lace while you're doing it, so if it doesn't work you haven't 
wrecked anything.?
?

Maybe you know this already, but just in case somebody else is reading 
this and doesn't know - if you soak lace, be careful about taking it 
out - water weighs a lot, and you can damage  laces by removing them 
from the water while they are unsupported - slip a bit of net 
underneath the lace before you soak it, drain the water out before you 
lift the lace, and use the net to lift the wet lace out of the 
container.?
?

If the lace is old, but not *that* old it will likely be more robust; 
I'd still soak it, but maybe I'd use soap or something else that's 
going to work a little faster.?
?

You paid less than $1 a yard for it; to my way of thinking even if it 
doesn't lighten to a colour you like, you'll get more than $20 worth of 
experience and knowledge as you try to lighten it. I'd keep the lace, 
look on it as a learning opportunity, and give it a go.?
?

Adele?

North Vancouver, BC?

(west coast of Canada)?
?

 The pattern is pretty, but the color really is not. I wouldn't use it 
 as it is. It's not a pretty yellowish to my eyes - and really quite 
 dark on the exposed end, but I could cut that off I wouldn't use a 
 real bleach on it - I learned my lesson the hard on that years ago. 
 But I certainly wouldn't use it without trying to light it up a bit. I 
 don't know if anyone would ... maybe. Who knows??

?

  it's a delicate lace, but in good shape, other than the color, and 
 I'm a little miffed that she obviously had some photoshopping done on 
 it, to make it look that pretty white color, which I really wish it 
 was.?

?

 I hate to let it go to waste though. Paid about $20 for 11 yards for 
 it, to give you some idea. Not a major investment. But.?
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Re: [lace] Takes Patience

2008-06-25 Thread rictorr8
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Sent: Wed, 25 Jun 2008 10:03 pm
Subject: [lace] Takes Patience










Sorry about the strung-together lines in my last email.   I don't know why
it happened.  I'll try again.

How do you have the patience for that!
I've heard many an onlooker cry.
That jumble of pins, that birds-nest of thread.
It's all just too much, they would sigh.

It's easy, I say, just one step at a time.
Just like training a husband from scratch.
Now that really takes patience, persistence and time.
To end up with a tolerable match.

So if you've been married for umpteen odd years.
You're a Darby and Joan, nice and steady.
Then lacemaking skills are quite easy to learn.
You've done all the training already.

Noelene in Cooma
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?
* * * 

Thank you, Noelene - that is delightful! Did you write it? If so, I'm 
impressed! 
Either way, though, thank you for sharing it with Arachne! Enjoyed it very much!

Regards,
Ricky T in SLC 

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Re: [lace] FiberArts: Guidelines for Care of Textiles (long)

2008-06-19 Thread rictorr8
 Thanks, Jeri - I know I'm not alone in appreciating the information you share 
with us about the importance of preserving our own textile treasures. There's 
nothing much sadder than seeing a beautiful piece of handwork that has 
deteriorated through years of improper care and mistreatment, besides the 
ravages of time. Despite the labor-saving devices available now, it seems we're 
not going to see much of the kinds of textile art that people in the past found 
the time to make by hand. Beautiful things made by hand are virtually 
irreplaceable, and there is not way we can put a real price on the labors of 
love and investments of time they require. And, of course, we want to be able 
to pass down our heirlooms to the next generations, if at all possible.


 
So thanks for passing along these resources, Jeri! You are among the treasured 
resources on this list!

Regards,
Ricki in Utah


 

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For those who care (I've heard a lot from those that do not!):

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[lace] Lacemaker on ebay

2008-06-19 Thread rictorr8
Hi y'all -

Don't know if this might have been mentioned here already, but some on this 
List might like to see the lacemaker in lace for sale on ebay - sale ending in 
about 10 hours

Item # 230261812473

Best wishes,
Ricki in UT

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Re: [lace-chat] European Telephone Calling Cards

2008-06-19 Thread rictorr8
Hello all,

I was not able to use my telephone calling cards in Europe, and it's true that 
pay phones are not readily available over there, where I visited. Have you 
considered possibly using Skype?? If you have a laptop or access to a computer, 
and one of those Skype-compatible phones, you can make international calls for 
around 2 cents a minute. You would need a voltage adaptor if you take your 
laptop with you. The sound quality is not bad, though it is not as good as a 
regular phone. 

Just a thought -

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[lace-chat] eBay lawsuit (France)

2008-06-18 Thread rictorr8
Hi All,
Having seen many e-bay related discussions on this list, I thought people
might be interested in this article that popped up in ForbesIt appears
that a French court ruling held eBay liable for hosting sales of counterfeit
goods, with possible broader implications for Europe and elsewhere to come.

Regards,
Ricki in Utah - hot and sunny weather here!

* * *


LONDON -


Online auction house eBay is simply a host for transactions between buyers and
sellers, not liable for any dodgy dealings that go on, right? Wrong.





On June 4, a French court ruled against eBay
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in a case brought against it by French ultra-chic luxury retailer
Hermès over the sale of three Hermès bags, including two fakes, for a
total of 3,000 euros ($4,715.50). I





It's not so much the size of the fine that's likely to be keeping
eBay executives awake at night: 20,000 euros ($31,439.30) is relatively
small change for a company the market values at $38.5 billion. Rather,
it's the precedent that the ruling by the court in Troyes sets, as it
could apply to cases that might cost eBay a lot more and force it to
rethink its entire selling strategy.





In France, Christian Dior
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and LVMH Moët Hennessy Louis Vuitton have pending cases against eBay
over counterfeit goods, worth 17 million euros ($26.7 million) and 20
million euros ($31.4 million), respectively, while in the U.S., Tiffany's
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) case against the company completed its hearing stage last December.





Hermès is the first successful case against eBay in France, and the
second time an online intermediary has been found liable in relation to
counterfeit charges, says Georgie Collins, an intellectual property
lawyer at London-based business law firm LG. Last year LVMH was awarded
$400,000 against Google
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) because ad words linked to sites selling counterfeit products.





On June 4 the court said that by selling the bags on French site
eBay.fr, the company had failed to act within its power to prevent
the reprehensible use of the site, to the detriment of Hermès,
according to Agence France-Presse.





In response, eBay has said it takes counterfeiting very seriously
and points to the steps it has taken since the case was first launched
to improve its anti-counterfeiting measures. We are disappointed LVMH
filed a lawsuit against eBay, the online auction giant said in a
statement. We cannot discuss details related to pending litigation;
however, we do hope that we can resolve this conflict with LVMH.



Ebay has not yet indicated whether it plans to appeal.





Losing such a case sets an uncomfortable precedent for online
vendors. The verdict directly challenges eBay's argument that it is not
directly responsible for what is on its Web site. EBay says that while
it can take reasonable steps to ensure that it's not promoting
counterfeits (by limiting the number of goods one person can sell and
quickly removing goods after a complaint), there will be goods that
slip through its net. Vetting each and every product before it goes up
for sale online is not an option, the company contends.





The judge has challenged the argument of Web sites such as eBay
that they are merely intermediaries and that the sale of counterfeit
goods has nothing to do with them, says Collins. The judge is
essentially saying that they have to find a way of dealing with this.





The sophistication of counterfeiters makes the potential liability
of online vendors even more problematic. In some instances, the only
way to tell a real good from a fake one is to return it to the producer
and have it taken apart, says Collins. That means that the question of
who should bear the responsibility of determining whether a good is
fake has no clear answer, she adds.





Currently, the courts in France, home to many of the world's top
luxury brands, including LVMH and Hermès, have taken one of the
toughest approaches to counterfeiting cases, Collins says. There is a
real acknowledgment, carried through practically, of the importance of
getting counterfeiting off the market.





Europe is taking a tough look at the responsibilities of online
vendors across the board. Last year in Germany, Rolex successfully sued
eBay over a breach of its intellectual property rights,
using the European Enforcement Directive of 2004, which harmonized
intellectual property rights across Europe. The European Commission's
e-commerce directive, which looks at the liability of intermediaries,
is also under review.






The International Anti Counterfeiting Coalition estimates that
counterfeiting has skyrocketed over the past two decades into a $600
billion industry. In her book on the history of luxury, Deluxe: How Luxury
Lost Its Luster,  Newsweek journalist 

Re: [lace-chat] Fwd: gas saving tips

2008-06-01 Thread rictorr8
  On 1 Jun 2008, at 18:54, Dora Smith wrote:?

?

  gt; Aren't walking and bicycling both more popular options in England gt; 
than here? And isn't public transportation far better and far more gt; 
publicly accepted as an actual transportation option? In the gt; U.S., 
only the poor and students would be caught dead taking public gt; 
transportation, except in New York City, where the middle class are gt; 
sometimes caught dead taking public transportation but the rich gt; never do.  
 Here there are two badges of honor of any worthwhile gt; human being - 
driving a car, and nto sharing housing, and people gt; literally starve to 
maintain that standard of living.?

  gt;?

?

LOL - but there are differences among places in the US, regarding public 
transportation. In Salt Lake City, after a lot of angry outcry by taxpayers 
over hte cost of a high-speed rail from the suburbs into the city, it has since 
been expanded because it is highly popular with the public. Everyone said no 
one would use it, but pretty much everyone does! The morning and evening 
commutes are full of people going to and from work, and I've never seen the 
trams empty, day or ngiht. The newer railway up to the university is also used 
a lot, and the system is being furthre expanded. Mind you, this heavy useage 
began before gas prices increased. We've had bus service all along, and a lot 
of people do use that too - not just the poor and students, but the tram 
(called Trax) is really very popular here and used by many across the valley. 



Regards,

Ricki in Utah

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RE: [lace] Hankies

2008-02-03 Thread rictorr8
 Hi y'all -



Lacefairy has a beautiful design for a baby bonnet made out of hanky that can 
be used as a bridal hanky later, when the baby grows up! Don't know yet f 
anyone already mentioned itbut here's the URL



http://lace.lacefairy.com/Gallery/Hanki.html



Enjoying catching up on emails



Regards,

Ricki in Utahlooks like the clouds are breaking. Yay! 





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From: Noelene Lafferty 

To: 'Margot Walker' ; 'ARACHNE' 

Sent: Thu, 31 Jan 2008 1:46 pm

Subject: RE: [lace] Hankies



  
A folded hanky pinned at the neck makes a lovely jabot  .Noelene in 
Cooma, Australia  [EMAIL PROTECTED] A friend of mine has just inherited 60 
hankies and about 20 of them   have very beautiful lace and/or embroidery.  
Does anyone have   suggestions about how she could use or display them?  
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Re: CC: Re: [lace-chat] mandoline

2008-02-03 Thread rictorr8
 Thanks to Avital and all who responded to my question! I'm finally catching up 
on my email here, so I apologize for the delay. That website is wonderful, and 
it will help me negotiate with my mandoline



I really really appreciate this! When I have time, I'll approach it step by 
step, and no doubt be able to get some nice sliced veggies, without sliced 
fingers mixed in!? :)) 



Best regards,

Ricki in Utah (where we've got the occasional snowflakes falling -- again? -- 
and bit of an early spring breeze!)



 






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From: Avital 

To: lace-chat@arachne.com

Sent: Tue, 29 Jan 2008 12:18 am

Subject: Re: CC: Re: [lace-chat] mandoline



  
Ah--didn't see that Ricky sent a CC to the lace-chat list!I'll just add 
the following bit that I wrote to Ricky off-line,  omitting the stuff that I 
wrote in response to Tamara's posting:  It's great for cucumber salads, 
French fries, scalloped potatoes,  Chinese stir fry vegetables, julienne 
carrots (where you don't want  them grated), sliced cabbage and sauerkraut 
(fantastic for that  because you can use half a cabbage or a quarter of a large 
one!). Be  careful if you're trying to cut a flexible vegetable like bell  
peppers. They might get mushed up inside the blade. Good luck!On 
1/29/08, [EMAIL PROTECTED] [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:Hi Avital,  
Thanks for your reply. Just dragged it out of the box (again)...Looks 
like   it's a Mafler (made in France, and all the paperwork stuff is in 
French). I wish   I had botten a plastic one -- people have told me they are 
easier to use, and a   great asset, after I bought this oneIt's beautif
 ul to look at, when I take   it out of the box, BUTI guess the blades 
scare me too much - they are indeed   razor sharp. I'm afraid to lose a finger 
if I play with it too much. Or at   least, I need to be more sure of what I'm 
trying to do, and how to do it, to   minimize that risk!  Regards,  
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[lace-chat] Cat-yoga

2008-02-03 Thread rictorr8
 Hi all,



Now knowing there are a lot of cat-lovers out there in Arachne-land, some of 
you might also enjoy seeing some videos on cat yogaHere is the link.



http://www.yogakitty.com/youtubecpk.html



Wishing you all peace, and joy, this weekend, and always!



Regards,

Ricki in Utah (clouding up, getting windier).



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Re: [lace-chat] Re: [lace] cat survey ending soon

2008-01-28 Thread rictorr8
 One tortoise-shell female, with an orange-and-black half-and-half mask on her 
face, spayed

  

  Can't wait to see the results!

  

  Regards,

  Ricki in Utah (where we're digging out of an almost-blizzard)

  

 

  



  
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  From: Joy Beeson 

  To: Kate Henry 

  Cc: lace-chat@arachne.com

  Sent: Mon, 28 Jan 2008 8:57 am

  Subject: [lace-chat] Re: [lace] cat survey ending soon

  

  
On 1/28/08 1:35 AM, Kate Henry wrote:?

  ?

 The cat survey is ending soon. If you wish to be included?

 in the tally, please send the number of critters in your?

 household. ?

One neutered tom, hand-caught in a barn.?

  ?

--   Joy Beeson?

http://joybeeson.home.comcast.net/?

http://roughsewing.home.comcast.net/?

http://n3f.home.comcast.net/ -- Writers' Exchange?

http://www.timeswrsw.com/craig/cam/ (local weather)?

west of Fort Wayne, Indiana, U.S.A.?

where the snow is melting and the fishermen have left the lake.?

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CC: Re: [lace-chat] mandoline

2008-01-28 Thread rictorr8
  Hi Avital,



  Thanks for your reply. Just dragged it out of the box (again)...Looks like 
it's a Mafler (made in France, and all the paperwork stuff is in French). I 
wish I had botten a plastic one -- people have told me they are easier to use, 
and a great asset, after I bought this oneIt's beautiful to look at, when I 
take it out of the box, BUTI guess the blades scare me too much - they are 
indeed razor sharp. I'm afraid to lose a finger if I play with it too much. Or 
at least, I need to be more sure of what I'm trying to do, and how to do it, to 
minimize that risk! 

  

  Regards,

  Ricky

  

  

  

 

  



  
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  Sent: Mon, 28 Jan 2008 9:40 pm

  Subject: Re: [lace-chat] mandoline

  

  
What brand do you have? I have a Borner (plastic with metal blades --  
definitely one of the cheap models) and I love it. They all work  pretty much 
the same way. You must be zealous about using the hand  guard because any 
mandoline can give you really nasty cuts. I use mine  mainly for slicing or 
julienning vegetables.AvitalOn Jan 29, 2008 5:49 AM,  [EMAIL 
PROTECTED] wrote:   Does anyone have a mandoline, and know how to use it? I 
bought a beautiful,   nice stainless steel one years ago, in a fit of 
wanna-be-martha-stewart, but   have never gotten the hang of setting it up, 
putting the blades in, and using   it. Does anyone have any tips or suggestions 
that might help me actually make   use of my investment? All 
thumbs, suffering from buyer's remorse, Ricki in UtahTo 
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Re: [lace] Fan -- A Repeat Explanation About Acid Damage

2007-12-04 Thread rictorr8
Thanks to Jeri for the information about avoiding acid damage! I am a relative 
newbie on this list, and had not seen her earlier posts on this topic. I'm glad 
to learn about this, especially, since I've been storing my daughter's 
christening dress (handmade by me!) in a wooden box. I have wrapped it in 
acid-free tissue, but had no idea the wood itself posed any kind of threat that 
would require replacing the paper. 



Thanks you for another enlightening post, and the heartache avoided, down the 
road! 



Regards,

Ricki in Utah, where it looks like we're fixing for more precipitation, now 
that most of the old snow is melted! 



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Re: [lace] RE: rayon thread

2007-12-03 Thread rictorr8
Dear Arachnids,



This discussion is interesting. My experience with rayon has been some 
disappoinment in its ability to keep its shape. It looks good at first, but 
it's never the same after it's cleaned, in my experience. Anyway, I looked it 
up and found this information on the Net, for what it's worth - can't vouch for 
its accuracy!



  Rayon makes very shiny embroidery threads which are readily
  available in many colors.? However, they are not always
  colorfast.? Make a test piece to check for shrinking and color
  fading. Before purchasing your thread, check the end of the spool for
  the country of origin.? Do not buy it unless it was made in the
  USA. Thread made in other countries has been shown to have high acid
  content which causes rapid thread deterioration, unstable colors,
  uncontrollable thread breakage and rapid thread deterioration.?To
  prolong the life of your rayon thread, keep it in the freezer. Be sure
  to bring the thread to room temperature before sewing.   



Regards,

Ricki in Utah, where the sun today did a good job of melting last weekend's 
snowfall.



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Re: [lace] Postage costs

2007-11-29 Thread rictorr8
Dear Arachnids,



It looks to me like some ebay sellers do hide a mark-up in their postage 
charges, even in the US. 



Granted, it might be difficult to predict exactly what it would cost to mail to 
a certain destination. But recently, I bought a skirt, which after receiving 
it, I commented to the seller I felt was overpriced and misrepresented as 
antique Edwardian, when, in fact, only the bottom border was old lace, and the 
entire top of the skirt had obviously been replaced in recent years. 



She was wonderful about taking it back, and sent me the link to the original 
sale at which she had purchased it. Then I could see how she covered the 
original purchase price she had paid by understating the buy now price by 
about $5 and adding a little extra padding (about $5) on the shipping charges. 
She did refund the shipping charges that she had charged me as well as the 
purchase price, which I appreciated, but I did have to eat the $5 it cost to 
send it back to her. She is apparently now trying to get her money back from 
the original seller, because it was misrepresented to her, and she didn't 
realize it. 



The clincher was that she knew how much it would cost (approximately) to ship 
the item, since she herself had recently had it shipped to her, AND the fact 
that adding on the extra shipping costs brought the total up enough to cover 
her own purchase of that item.



As an aside, I hadn't returned anything before, and was a bit disappointed to 
find out now I only have eBay credit, instead of a return of the funds to my 
credit card.



Hidden costs disguised as shipping charges is something I've also seen happen 
in other contexts besides eBay, of course.



I wonder, does eBay have a policy on accurate shipping charges? Does it 
expressly allow people to add on charges to pay sellers for their time and 
effort to mail the item? 



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Re: [lace] Another eBay thingy

2007-11-11 Thread rictorr8
Hi Arachnids!



I haven't been following this thread closely, but all the discussion on this 
finally prompted me to take a look at the thingy. It looks to me like it could 
be a drop spindle for hand spinning. The reason I suggest is that I have 
spindle that has a notch thingy like that at the top -- can anyone rule that in 
or out as plausible ? 



Interesting, in any event



Regards,

Ricki in Utah, where we've got lots of yellow leaves, cloudy skies, and a 
promise of rain.



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Re: [lace] Another eBay thingy/not a spindle

2007-11-11 Thread rictorr8
 Hi - thanks to all who've answered my question. Wow - it really does look like 
that. The one thing that still gives me pause is the first picture looks to me 
like it has a hook on it, near the top? Maybe for hanging it up? Or do my eyes 
deceive me? :)



Regards,

Ricki from Utah 



 






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Subject: Re: [lace] Another eBay thingy/not a spindle



  
If you wanted to, you could use it for a spindle but its really too short   
for that, and the yarn would catch in the carving. Check out the website   
mentioned with pics of the official mullers that match the item and the song   
that goes with the mulling.http://gourmetsleuth.com/molinillo.htm?

  Kate Henry?

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   I haven't been following this thread closely, but all the discussion on
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I have spindle that has a notch thingy like that at the top -- can anyone
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Re: [lace] Help- sore finger!

2007-10-31 Thread rictorr8
 Another thing you might want to try is Liquid Bandage, especially if you 
have small open sores. Ouch! 



Regards,

Ricki in UT



 






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Sent: Wed, Oct 31  10:22 AM

Subject: Re: [lace] Help- sore finger!



  
When I have that problem, I buy those sheets of peel-off stickers with  
small (1/4) dots. They protect my fingers and they're very cheap.Avital
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them again, as they have horrid fine, sharp   heads - but I am about to 
demonstrate for two days on Friday and Saturday   (and then maybe Sunday 
afternoon), so I can't just leave my finger to heal /   grow a thicker 
callous. I think some of you have used stick on pads on the finger tip. 
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Re: [lace] Abusive response from ebay seller

2007-10-31 Thread rictorr8
 Slightly off-topic, but, personally, I don't like the forced nature of 
feedback on e-bay. Or maybe it was just the sellers I've dealt with, who 
pressured me to give them a rating. I think it should be left to the discretion 
of buyers whether or not they want to give feedback on their purchasing 
experience. It felt like extortion to me, but I resisted! Just my two cents' 
worth



Ricki in Utah



 






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Subject: Re: [lace] Abusive response from ebay seller



  
That is probably because of the nature of the feedback. Unfortunatly people 
 can and do use negative feedback to punish people when they get upset.  The 
nice thing is that you can respond to feedback left for you.On 
10/31/07, Avital [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: That's interesting. I once 
complained about feedback. A seller took   more than 3 months to mail me a 
book (only after repeated reminders   from me). I mentioned this in his 
feedback and he replied with, I bet   this is the guy who killed that 
Palestinian kid, on my feedback. I   complained to eBay and they deleted it.  
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[lace-chat] Two blondes

2007-10-29 Thread rictorr8
 Hoping this doesn't offend any of the fair-haired among us! ;)Yup, it's a 
double dose of blonde jokes!



* * *



A blonde lady was speeding down the highway, and was pulled over by a police 
officer who also happened to be a blonde. 



The police officer asked the driver to produce her driver's license. 



The blonde fished through her purse and finally said she wasn't sure what a 
driver's license looked like.



The officer said, Well, it's little, square, and has your picture on it.



The blonde driver finally found a little compact mirror in her purse and looked 
in it, and then handed it over to the police officer. This must be it, she 
said.



The blonde police officer looked at the mirror, and then said to the driver, 
OK, you can go. I didn't realize you were a police officer too!





Regards to all! (including all blondes, natural and otherwise! :))



-Ricki in Utah with nice fall weather these days



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[lace-chat] Turkey prop

2007-10-19 Thread rictorr8
 Hi all - don't know if this would work or not, but there are plastic roasted 
turkeys available (somewhere) that look pretty much just like the real thing!



Regards,

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[lace] Brugge Jeruzalemkerk Kantcentrum

2007-10-18 Thread rictorr8
Greetings, Arachnids!

Thought you all might be interested in a brief account of the Lace Museum I 
stumbled on at the Jerusalem Church in Brugge, during my recent visit to 
Europe. The Church itself dates from the fifteenth century, and is in private 
ownership. This website has some nice pictures.
http://www.visit-bruges.com/cathedrals-churches/the-jerusalem-church.htm

Adjoining it is a small lace museum with some nice samples of antique lace, in 
various states of quality/repair. In addition to its standing collection, the 
Lace Museum regularly holds temporary exhibitions from domestic and foreign 
collections. The exhibit was not fully documented in the brochure I received, 
but it did contain examples from the 16th, 17th, and 18th centuries and some 
outstanding pieces, indeed!

The Kant Centre is a vestige of the Sisters Apostelines who started a lace 
school around 1835. As of 1860, there were 400 students who specialed in 
Binche or Point de fee. In 1911, a lace normal school was also 
established there. The Lace School was forced to close in 1958 because not one 
single student was qualified to become a professional lace maker. In 1970, the 
Sisters Apostelines founded the non-profit Kantcentrum to maintain the art of 
lace, and in 1972, the Kantcentrum took over the school. In 1994, the Youth 
lace school merged with the Bruges Academy for Arts and the non-profit 
association Lace Centre still continues its activities on an independent basis, 
offering weekly workshops for working with bobbin lace.

The Workshop area is located behind the Museum and it was interesting to see 
the projects various students were working on. There is also a small shop 
located there that offers the supplies needed to complete the projects offered 
in the various workshops.

It was a pleasure to stumble on this little jewel!

Regards to all,
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Re: [lace] Q.A. Lace continued (OT)

2007-06-02 Thread RicTorr8
In a message dated 6/1/2007 9:22:18 A.M. Mountain Standard Time,  
[EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:

Whilst I  have heard of hemlock, I don't know the plant.



That's what Socrates said, according to Steve Martin, if you ever saw that  
skit he did on the Death of Socrates.
 
He was sitting chatting with his morose friends, when someone brought in a  
chalice and he drank it down, and kept talking. Suddenly he said, I feel  
woozy! and started lying back on the couch.
 
His friend said, Of course, you just drank hemlock!
 
He said, What's hemlock?
 
His friend said, It's poison.
 
Socrates Martin said, Oh great. Now you tell me. All these years, it's  been 
'Socrates, what's the meaning of life? Socrates, what is truth?' Never once  
did anyone say, 'Socrates, hemlock is poison!
 
:))
 
Best regards from Ricki in sunny suddenly summery Utah, where the grass is  
growing and drying out and I'd better get the rest of the garden in but  FAST.



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Re: [lace] Re: Jigsaws and honey

2007-06-02 Thread RicTorr8
In a message dated 6/2/2007 8:15:09 A.M. Mountain Standard Time,  
[EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:

Yes, I  noticed that!  What I was more interested in is there any way to 
work  
out when plant names first became lace somethings, ie before that lace  
wasn't a part of the public consciousness.  And although I was very  
interested in 
finding out that it may indeed be the Queen Anne in the book  I'm reading, 
there 
must be quite a jump from her courtiers saying Oooh  that plant looks just 
like our Majesty's lace, and country people calling  it Q A's lace.



There seem to be several sources for the name Queen Anne's Lace -- from the  
Internet:
 
 
Origin  History  
Also known as bird's nest, and wild carrot, Queen Anne's Lace is named for 
 St. Anne, patron saint of lacemakers in England.  
Sentiment  Symbolism  
Like lace, every bloom has a different pattern. The root of Queen Anne's Lace 
 stimulates pigment production; North African natives chewed it to protect  
themselves from the sun.  
* * *  
Queen Anne's Lace has leaves that spread out lace-like from its stems. Also  
note the difference in the smell of the crushed leaves, medicinal for yarrow 
and  carrot-like for Queen Anne's Lace, which not surprisingly is also called 
wild  carrot. Queen Anne's Lace is the wild version of our cultivated carrot, 
and its  root can be eaten. Also edible are the seeds, which were used by 
colonists as  spices. It was the colonists, in fact, who brought the plant to 
America for  these uses.  
Two possible origins of this plant's name exist. One story says that it was  
named for Queen Anne, wife of James I, who was known to wear the flower in her 
 hair (a local connection: she was the mother of the Prince Edgar after which 
 Edgartown was named). The other story holds that this flower was named for 
St.  Anne, mother of the Virgin Mary, who was the patron saint of lacemakers.  
Sometimes Queen Anne's Lace has a single purple floret in the center, which  
serves as a reminder of the injury Queen Anne suffered when she was pricked  
while making lace.  
* * *  
I agree it would be interesting to know how the plant actually got its  name! 
Regards, 
Ricki in Utah



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Re: [lace-chat] Re: Mushy Peas/poem

2007-05-23 Thread RicTorr8
Hi - this side-dish discussion brings another peas poem and child's  handgame 
to mind.
 
Peas porridge hot
Peas porridge cold 
Peas porridge in the pot
Nine days old
 
Some like it hot
Some like it cold
Some like it in the pot
Nine days old!
 
My opinion is - it would have spoiled by nine days! (hence the need for  mint 
sauce? And how do you make it?? :))
 
Ricki in Utah where it's taken a bit of cold turn the past couple of  days



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Re: [lace-chat] mushy peas

2007-05-20 Thread RicTorr8
In a message dated 5/20/2007 1:47:00 A.M. Mountain Daylight Time,  
[EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:

Just to  turn you off mushy peas for life if you haven't tasted them 
(absolutely  delicious!), the Wikipedia entry is:

Mushy peas are dried marrowfat  peas which are first soaked and then 
simmered until they form a green  lumpy paste (the more pure the mushy peas, 
the less obviously bright the  colour - peas with few additives tend to form 
a more grey-green end  product). Sodium bicarbonate is often added to soften 
the peas and to  inhibit fermentation during soaking which reduces later 
flatulence. They  are a very traditional northern English accompaniment to 
fish and chips,  or in the north-west are commonly served as part of the 
popular snack of  pie and peas (akin to the Australian pie floater, but with 
mushy peas  instead of a thick pea soup) and are considered a part of 
traditional  British cuisine. Mushy peas can also be bought in tins. They are 
also  sometimes served in batter as a pea fritter.

A knob of butter is  commonly added to enhance flavour.





This sounds kind of like split pea soup - is it? 
 
Thanks! :)
 
Ricki in Utah



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[lace-chat] Happy Hunting! :)

2007-05-19 Thread RicTorr8
An engineer, physicist and statistician went hunting one day.

The  engineer spotted a deer and correctly calculated the distance. His shot
kicked  up dust three feet to the left.

The physicist, trying to calculate the  wind factor, shot just three feet to
the right of the deer.

The  statistician said, “We got him. We got him!”


Cheers!

Ricki in Utah



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Re: [lace] beeswax

2007-05-11 Thread RicTorr8
In a message dated 5/10/2007 8:30:42 P.M. Mountain Daylight Time,  
[EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:

to which  I will add the honey people at the farm market told me that beeswax
is  supposed to be superlative for preparing a baking sheet for cookie dough!
I  haven't tried that though. They had huge cake-size (as in birthday  cake)
slabs of beeswax for sale. The scent was heavenly, but at that size  too much
and too costly for using for little dibs for  lacemaking.





I remember buying big blocks of beeswax from a little farm that kept bees  
for about 5$ each, maybe fifteen years ago. Now that place is gone. Not only  
that, but the bees too, apparently, around the world, are disappearing, so  the 
price of beeswax is likely to skyrocket (though that's only peripheral to  the 
real problem, whatever is causing the decline)... See, e.g., 
_http://sfgate.com/cgi-bin/article.cgi?f=/gate/archive/2007/05/09/notes050907.
DTLnl=fix_ 
(http://sfgate.com/cgi-bin/article.cgi?f=/gate/archive/2007/05/09/notes050907.DTLnl=fix)
 
 
Well, I digress, but before I go back to minding my own beeswax, I'll  just 
say it's probably best to buy your beeswax now! Someday it will  probably be 
worth its weight in gold! 
 
 
Ricki in Utah (the Beehive State)



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[lace-chat] Thanks re: Mothers' Day

2007-05-10 Thread RicTorr8
Hi All -
 
Thanks for the suggestions on a spa  treatment for Mothers' Day. It's  a 
great idea and I'm following up on it, with my sisters who live near my  
mother. 
 
Wishing you all a great mothers' day --
 
Ricki in Utah where it's warming up again! 



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[lace-chat] Mothers' Day

2007-05-07 Thread RicTorr8
Hi All ! 
 
I'm trying to find some special gifts for Mothers' Day, and would  appreciate 
it anyone would be so kind as share any good gift ideas or  suggestions y'all 
might have come up with, or that you might wish someone would  give to you!  
I'm kinda drawing a blank here, and that's not a good  thing
 
Many thanks in advance --
 
Ricki in coolish Utah



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Re: [lace-chat] Not allowed sugar

2007-04-27 Thread RicTorr8
In a message dated 4/27/2007 1:22:55 A.M. Mountain Daylight Time,  
[EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:

Have you  tried Splenda (sucralose) - sugar with part of the molecule altered 
so it  can't be absorbed?


I happened to hear a doctor talking about this and artificial sweeteners  the 
other day on a radio program. There is some dispute about health  risks, and 
effectiveness in weight control. Some folks might want to  consider some 
further information, such as the following
 
_http://coffeetea.about.com/cs/health/a/artsweeteners.htm_ 
(http://coffeetea.about.com/cs/health/a/artsweeteners.htm) 
 
_http://www.splendaexposed.com/articles/2007/04/makers_of_artif.html_ 
(http://www.splendaexposed.com/articles/2007/04/makers_of_artif.html) 
 
_http://theearthcenter.com/ff44splenda.html_ 
(http://theearthcenter.com/ff44splenda.html) 
 
_http://www.naturalhealingtoday.com/article_001.html_ 
(http://www.naturalhealingtoday.com/article_001.html) 
 
_http://www.hbhealth.com/article.html?art_id=124page_id=5_ 
(http://www.hbhealth.com/article.html?art_id=124page_id=5) 
 
 
_http://www.ksat.com/health/11318653/detail.html_ 
(http://www.ksat.com/health/11318653/detail.html) 
 
_http://www.citizens.org/splenda-side-effects-hotline-established-888-774-call
-2255_ 
(http://www.citizens.org/splenda-side-effects-hotline-established-888-774-call-2255)
 
 
 
Regards,
Ricki in Utah 




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Re: [lace-chat] Re: Rhubarb cake

2007-04-26 Thread RicTorr8
In a message dated 4/26/2007 11:29:10 P.M. Mountain Daylight Time,  
[EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:

Aaargh... I sure do miss rhubarb (rabarbar)... It was one of the most  
common sources of vitamin C when I was growing up (other than onion.  
And it didn't stink up your breath in the process g). Cake,  compote, 
jam, yogurt... But here it's rare and, when avilable at all (not  
always), costs an arm and a leg for a few puny stalks...  Sob.


Doesn't rhubarb grow just about anywhere? I always thought it was quite  easy 
to grow, but maybe I've taken the climate or soil here for granted  Well, 
I admit I had second thoughts when I put a rhubarb plant in my garden a  
couple of years ago. Last year, it hardly came up, and I thought it didn't take 
 
root, but suddenly this year it's growing nicely, with a few fairly good  
stalks and presentably big leaves. I remember a big stand of rhubarb plants in 
a  
summer camp lot growing wild, I think, where we used to go to as kids. We would 
 always pick some and chew on it raw, but that was rather mouth puckering!   
Anyone for rhubarb  strawberry pie? I'm gonna try out these recipes though  - 
they sound even better! Thanks for the great ideas, everyone! 
 
Regards from Utah in full spring - 
 
Ricki



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[lace-chat] Day of Rest

2007-04-24 Thread RicTorr8
Hi All! -- Since the list is kinda quiet, maybe this one fits...
 
 
A pastor was tired of leading the church services every week. 
 
So one Sunday he told his assistant he wasn't feeling well, and drove over  
to a golf-course in another town.
 
He had just teed off at the first green, when a big gust of wind picked up  
the ball, and carried it an extra 100 yards, for a 450-yard hole-in-one.
 
An angel watching over the scene was mystified, and asked the Good Lord,  
Now why did you do that?
 
The Lord smiled and answered, Who is he going to tell? 
 
:)
 
Best regards,
Ricki in Utah



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[lace-chat] Frankly speaking...

2007-04-14 Thread RicTorr8

Grandma in the  Courtroom


Lawyers should never ask a  Mississippi grandma
a question if they
aren't prepared for  the answer.

In a trial, a Southern small-town  prosecuting
attorney called his
first witness, a  grandmotherly, elderly woman to
the stand.
He approached  her and asked, Mrs. Jones, do you
know  me?

She responded , Why, yes, I do know you,  Mr.
Williams. I've
known you since you were a young boy,  and frankly,
you've been a big disappointment to me. You  lie,
you cheat
on your wife, and you manipulate people and  talk
about them
behind their backs. You think you're a big  shot
when you
haven't the brains to realize you never  will
amount to anything
more than a two-bit paper pusher.  Yes, I know
you.

The lawyer was stunned! Not  knowing what else to
do, he pointed
across the room and  asked, Mrs. Jones, do you
know the defense attorney?
She  again replied, Why, yes, I do. I've known
Mr. Bradley  since
he was a youngster, too. He's lazy, bigoted, and
he  has a
drinking problem. He can't build a  normal
relationship with anyone and
his law practice is  one of the worst in the entire
state. Not to
mention he  cheated on his wife with three different
women. One of  them
was your wife. Yes, I know him.

The  defense attorney almost died. The judge
asked  both
counselors to approach the bench and, in a very
quiet  voice,
said, If either of you idiots asks her if  she
knows me,
I'll send you to the electric chair.

:))
 
Best to All! 
Ricki in springy Utah



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[lace-chat] Re: Fabric, Oil and Words

2007-04-11 Thread RicTorr8
In a message dated 4/11/2007 10:50:34 A.M. Mountain Daylight Time,  
[EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:

Hancock  stores (fabric and related) are closing a percentage of their stores 
in the  US.  I think some merchandized themselves as craft stores too, trying 
to  get more of the market, and it hasn't helped, as many sewers don't want 
to  spend their time on lesser quality fabrics.  Sadly, our best family owned  
fabric store closed, leaving one that is pale by comparison, and remaining  
chains, which specialize in polyester.



That is sure the trend around here, sad to say. Our Hancock store has a  
sizeable section of house furnishings now, knick-knacks, even beds  sometimes!, 
and a good part of the store is dedicated to crafts and drapery  materials. The 
fabric sector is shrinking in virtually every fabric store in  town, and the 
fabric stores themselves are shrinking in number, at the same  time. I've 
ordered in fabric before, but it's hard to know what it's really like  until 
you 
get it, and then, of course, you can't return it, because it's cut to  measure. 
The same goes for buying ready-made lace, naturally!
 
I hope there is some reversal in this trend, that's for sure. We used to  
have some very nice fabric stores in this area, but they are becoming few and  
far between, over at least the last ten years over so. 
 
Personally, I find the cluttered fabric stores full of all kinds of  crafts 
and furniture distracting and unpleasant to frequent.
 
Regards,
Ricki in Utah



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[lace-chat] sewing with Martha

2007-04-08 Thread RicTorr8
Greetings, All! 
 
A friend forwarded this to me. Good news, I think ... today sewing,  tomorrow 
lacemaking? :)
 
Regards from spring-rainy Utah
Ricki 
 
~~~

Designs in Machine  Embroidery
April 3,  2007
~~
~~

Welcome  Martha!

On Tuesday April 3, SVP Worldwide hosted a media event on the  42nd floor of 
a swanky
hotel on 57th St in Manhattan. Earlier that day,  Martha Stewart welcomed SVP 
onto
her show, Martha Stewart Show, and announced  a new partnership. Such 
excitement has
not been seen in our industry since  Janome introduced the Memory Craft 8000. 
Talk
about a buzz - cameras flashed,  television cameras rolled and Martha was in 
the building!
National magazines  - mass market magazines - like Elle, Glamour, Vogue, and 
InStyle
-were in  attendance. Finally, the world would see what we've known all along 
-  sewing
is way cool!

As the new spokesperson for SVP Worldwide, parent  of Singer, Husqvarna 
Viking and
Pfaff, Martha will reach thousands if not  millions of new and veteran sewers 
as she
incorporates sewing, quilting and  embroidery into Martha Stewart Living 
Omnimedia.
Look for sewing segments in  Martha Stewart Living Magazine, on Martha 
Stewart Today
television show,  Sirrus radio and the newly redesigned www.marthastewart.com.

Just as  Martha demystified complex cooking recipes, fantasy gardens and the  
everyday
tasks of laundering and housekeeping, she brings her team of  experts, 
creative geniuses
and professional artists to sewing. What a breath  of fresh air. And, she 
walks the
walk. Martha began her love affair with  sewing at the age of 7 at her 
mother's knee.
A sewing machine (a Singer, no  less!) was nestled into a corner of the 
kitchen in
her childhood home. By the  time high school rolled around, Martha was making 
all
of her clothes. This  continued through college when she was named one of the 
Top
20 College Girls  by Glamour magazine - and the only recipient who made all 
her  own
clothes!

As she became a wife, mother, businesswoman and leader  making her own 
clothes was
no longer a reality. But her love of sewing and  appreciation for fine 
workmanship,
fabrics and design still simmered. Today,  armed with a huge creative staff, 
Martha
will help bring her ideas to reality  and into our homes. We, as an industry, 
are
so lucky.

Many of you may  wonder why this is such a milestone in the sewing industry. 
The tradition
of  passing down the hobby to our daughters has skipped a generation and the  
reasons
for sewing today are very different than the reasons our mothers and  
grandmothers
sewed. The sewing industry thrives on the creative pursuits of  its 
customers. We
must inspire each other, ignite those who are just starting  on this creative 
expression
and unveil the possibilities to those who don't  sew. Without education in 
all of
its 21st century forms, there are no sewers.  Without sewers, there is no 
sewing industry.

Thankfully, sewing is  enjoying a comeback - no doubt ignited by the popular 
Project
Runway  television series - many are looking at sewing as a creative outlet. 
How  does
one spread the word? It helps to get a sewing experience into the hands  of 
those
who don't sew. At SVP's swank media event, it was fun to see the  astonished 
faces
of prominent editors as they watched the Singer Futura,  Pfaff 2170 and 
Husqvarna
Viking SE embroider linen napkins and quilt squares.  They couldn't believe 
the professional
quality of the stitch-outs, the ease  of use and comforting hum of the 
machine plus
the limitless creative  possibilities! Press was welcomed, encouraged even, 
to sit
at a machine and  sew.

Three corners of the glass-walled room were mini-sewing studios.  Each brand 
had a
homey corner with three machines at the ready. Many  attendees took a 
test-drive and
those who did were glad they got a hands-on  experience. Most had no idea how 
wonderful
today's machines are - from  drop-in bobbins to automatic tension to well-lit 
sewing
surfaces, sewing is  nothing like it was 20 years ago.

The last corner sported a clear acrylic  podium, backed by damask swatches 
and logos
of Singer, Husqvarna Viking,  Pfaff and Martha Stewart Living. Finally, 
Martha pulled
herself away from the  sewing machine and took her spot behind the mike. She 
shared
her love of  sewing as she reminisced about her childhood, high school, 
college and
young  adult sewing days. She remember fondly how she copied couture 
clothing,  made
draperies for one of her early homes and items for her daughter, Alexis.  Her 
comfort
behind a machine is as obvious as her comfort with SVP Worldwide.  She closed 
her
remarks with a statement heard hundreds of times at sewing  shows, I didn't 
make
this gorgeous wool coat, but I could  have.


I believe she  could.

~~
~~

Sincerely,

[lace-chat] Fantasy husband league

2006-12-12 Thread RicTorr8
Hi,

For all you women out there who'd like a fantasy husband for Christmas,
here's a wish-fulfillment website I found listed on Forbes' Wierd World Web!
Looks
like the best thing since sliced bread to me! ;)

FANTASY HUSBAND LEAGUE
 
For all of the Football Widows whether you're a wife, girlfriend or just a
smart single lady who wants to have some fun, this is your answer to man's
football addiction. We will provide a weekly domestic scenario wherein you
choose
three men to be your Fantasy Husbands.

The men's responses are graded by award winning, relationship experts
according to their potential to foster a normal, healthy, loving, and mutually
supportive marriage. Our panel will provide feedback on the men's answers,
suggest
the answer most likely to promote a healthy relationship, and give tips on
how to improve your relationship or spot a potential Fantasy Husband of your
own.
http://www.fantasyhusband.com/


Happy holidays to all! (that's the PC way to put it, right? :))

Ricki in Utah

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[lace-chat] 25 things to do in an elevator

2006-10-21 Thread RicTorr8
25 Things to Do in an Elevator

1) When there's only one other person in the elevator, tap him on the
shoulder and then pretend it wasn't you.
2) Push the buttons and pretend they give you a shock. Smile, and go back for
more.
3) Ask if you can push the button for other people, but push the wrong ones.
4) Call the Psychic Hotline from your cell phone and ask if  they know what
floor you're on.
5) Hold the doors open and say you're waiting for a friend.  After a while,
let the doors close, and say, Hi Greg. How's your day been?
6) Drop a pen and wait until someone goes to pick it up, then scream, That's
mine!
7) Bring a camera and take pictures of everyone in the elevator.
 8) Move your desk into the elevator and whenever anyone gets on, ask if he
has an appointment.
 9) Lay down the Twister mat and ask people if they would like to play.
10) Leave a box in the corner, and when someone gets on, ask him if he can
hear ticking.
11) Pretend you are a flight attendant and review emergency procedures and
exits with the passengers.
 12) Ask, Did you feel that?
 13) Stand really close to someone, sniffing him occasionally.
 14) When the doors close, announce to the others, It's okay, don't panic,
they open again!
15) Swat at flies that don't exist.
16) Tell people that you can see their aura.
 17) Grimace painfully while smacking your forehead and muttering, Shut up,
all of you, just shut up! 18) Crack open your briefcase or purse, and while
peering inside, ask, Got enough air in there?
19) Stand silently and motionless in the corner, facing the wall, without
getting off.
 20) Stare at another passenger for awhile, then announce in horror, You're
one of THEM! and back away slowly.
21) Wear a puppet on your hand and use it to talk to the other passengers.
22) Listen to the elevator walls with your stethoscope.
23) Make explosion noises when anyone presses a button.
24) Stare, grinning at another passenger for a while, and then announce, I
have new socks on.
 25) Draw a little square on the floor with chalk and announce to the other
passengers, This is MY personal space!

* * *
Ricki in Utah

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[lace-chat] Enligtenment

2006-10-21 Thread RicTorr8
Why did it take the Buddha forever to vacuum his sofa?

A: Because he didn't have any attachments.


 * Breathe in. Breathe out. Breathe in. Breathe out. Forget this and
attaining Enlightenment will be the least of your problems.


 * Let your mind be as a floating cloud. Let your stillness be as the wooded
glen. And sit up straight. You'll never meet the Buddha with such rounded
shoulders.


* * *
Ricki in Utah

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Re: [lace] RE: sewing machines

2006-07-04 Thread RicTorr8
Hi all - 
I've been out of the loop on much of this discussion, and don't know if 
anyone has mentioned this, but it sure is frustrating when those chain stitches 
are 
used to attach beads or sequins to clothing, and it starts to unravel, which 
doesn't take much time. Goodbye decorations! It's hardly worth the price 
unless you want to redo it all by hand. 

Best regards to everyone out there!

Ricki in Utah

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[lace-chat] Excel Hair-pulling Session

2006-05-14 Thread RicTorr8
Hello there, All! 

What I'm doing? Trying to figure out how to import data labels from a column 
in Excel into corresponding labels on the x-axis of a bar chart. I'm about 
ready to tear my hair out. You'd think that little paperclip assistant would 
offer some excellent help, but not. He tries to be cute, and entertain me, but 
he 
doesn't speak my language. Lucky for him he doesn't have any hair, except 
eyebrows, or I'd probably be tempted to try to tear his hair out too, and 
possibly 
destroy my computer in the process without much regret. I wish he's stay in 
hiding, for all the help he's giving me.

Does anyone know what I'm talking about? And, more importantly, does anyone 
know how to explain how to do that to me? Isn't that one of the most basic 
tasks anyone could want to do with a bar chart in Excel? Why is it so difficult 
for my witty paperclip assistant to explain clearly to me? He's no real help at 
all, for all his antics, as I'm discovering, alas.

In any case, - I feel better just venting. Thanks for asking, whoever it was. 
I'm looking forward to the day I can begin to look at lace again.

Attempting to excel in Excel - without much success - late at night in Salt 
Lake City

Ricki

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[lace-chat] Excel-ent!

2006-05-14 Thread RicTorr8
Hi Y'all!

Thanks to everyone who wrote me off list - I received several helpful 
suggestions for different ways to handle my Excel bar chart problem, AND 
learned how 
to put that annoying little paper-clip guy back in his box permanently!  

I really appreciate everyone's help -- you all are wonderful and 
knowledgeable and sympathetic, besides being such great lace-makers and 
artistes 
extraordinaire

Many thanks to you all --

Breathing a sigh of relief in SLC,

Ricki

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[lace-chat] Oil Change

2006-04-22 Thread RicTorr8
Oil Changing Instructions 
Women: 
Pull up to Jiffy Lube when the mileage reaches 3000 since the last oil 
change. 
Drink a cup of coffee. 
15 minutes later, write a check and leave with a properly maintained vehicle. 
Men: 
Go to O'Reilly auto parts and write a check for 50 dollars for oil, filter, 
oil lift (AKA kitty litter), hand cleaner and scented tree. 
Discover that the used oil container is full. Instead of taking back to 
O'Reilly to recycle, dump in hole in back yard. 
Open a beer and drink it. 
Jack car up. Spend 30 minutes looking for jack stands. 
Find jack stands under kid's pedal car. 
In frustration, open another beer and drink it. 
Place drain pan under engine. 
Look for 9/16 box end wrench. 
Give up and use crescent wrench. 
Unscrew drain plug. 
Drop drain plug in pan of hot oil; get hot oil on you in process. 
Clean up. 
Have another beer while oil is draining. 
Look for oil filter wrench. 
Give up; poke oil filter with Phillips screwdriver and twist it off. 
Beer. 
Buddy shows up; finish case with him. Finish oil change tomorrow. 
Next day, drag pan full of old oil out from underneath car. 
Throw oil lift (AKA kitty litter) on oil spilled during step 18. 
Beer. No, drank it all yesterday. 
Walk to 7-11; buy beer. 
Install new oil filter making sure to apply thin coat of clean oil to gasket 
first. 
Dump first quart of fresh oil into engine. 
Remember drain plug from step 11. 
Hurry to find drain plug in drain pan. 
Hurry to replace drain plug before the whole quart of fresh oil drains onto 
floor. 
Slip with wrench and bang knuckles on frame. 
Bang head on floor board in reaction. 
Begin cussing fit. 
Throw wrench. 
Cuss for additional 10 minutes because wrench hit Miss December (1992) in the 
left boob. 
Clean up; apply Band-Aid to knuckle. 
Beer. 
Dump in additional 4 quarts of oil. 
Beer. 
Lower car from jack stands 
Accidentally crush one of the jack stands 
Move car back to apply more oil lift (AKA kitty litter) to fresh oil spilled 
during step 23. 
Drive car 1 quart low for 7000 miles when it'll be time for another oil 
change. 
* * *
Best to all,
Ricki in sunny breezy springy Utah

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[lace-chat] Ancient embroidery?

2006-03-25 Thread RicTorr8
Question below from another List -- does anyone happen to know of any 
references I could pass along?

Many thanks,

Ricki
by flickering lights in windy Salt Lake City, where it's pelting rain and 
snow

Can anyone point me in a good direction for
 information on ancient Greek
 and Roman embroidery?  I have Pliny's and Homer's
 references.
 
 I'm looking for what we'd know about thread color,
 patterns, tools such as
 needles, types of stitches used, purposes for
 various designs, trends in
 styles, how various articles of clothing were
 embellished, what other
 types of things got embroidered...
 
 Basically everything.  I would be particularly
 interested in the personal
 perspectives of data and theory by members of the
 list.

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Re: [lace] Lipstick stain

2006-02-27 Thread RicTorr8
What a mess. Reminds me of some parallels from my own family's experience. 
Those little ones really know how to beef up life's little challenges on 
short-order.

A little philosophizing probably won't really help, but FWIW, I got this in 
the mail today, and thought I'd pass it along, fwiw:

Daily Quote: Colors fade, temples crumble, empires fall, but wise words 
remain. -- Thorndike

If you can't get it out completely (which is always a possibility), and don't 
want to wait to see how long it takes for the color to fade out completely, 
you could always try some applique over it, or put some embroidery or some 
other decorative elements around/on top of it, and try to make it look like 
part 
of the design!

Regards,
Ricki
Utah

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Re: [lace-chat] ly

2006-02-23 Thread RicTorr8
In a message dated 2/23/2006 9:20:50 AM Mountain Standard Time, [EMAIL 
PROTECTED] 
writes:
Hello all,

I have come to this fountain of knowledge to ask about 'ly', as in really, 
badly, etc.  Is there a rule for when a word has ly on the end?

So often I hear people say 'he did real bad' which I know is incorrect, but 
so is 'really bad', isn't it?  Is the correct term 'really badly'?

That went by quick(ly)?

What is the rule for 'ly'?

There is a lot of confusion on this ruleso don't feel bad about that! :))

The -ly ending creates adverbs -- words that modify verbs.  So if you want 
to modify the verb feel you would say badly.  If you want to modify the 
noun he you say bad.

In the sentence he did badly the adverbial suffix is appropriate because 
you are describing how he did on or with something.

In the sentence he feels bad you are actually describing how he feels, not 
the act of feeling itself, if that makes sense.  You are modifying the noun 
rather than the verb. You are describing the actor, not his actionunless 
you 
want to say he does a bad job of feeling.

Hope that makes sense!!

Regards,
Ricki
Utah

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Re: [lace] heirloom sewing and lace insertion

2006-02-20 Thread RicTorr8
I must have missed the original post about insertion lace, but my
understanding is that insertion lace is a lace which has a footside on each
side, and is intended to be attached to fabric on either side.  This is
also known as entre-deux.  
I must have missed the original post too, but insertion lace is actually a 
broader category than just entre-deux, which is a very narrow band with sort of 
a ladder type threads connecting the two sides. 
Insertion lace similarly has straight edges on both sides, sewn between two 
pieces of fabric, and joining them together, but the term usually is applied to 
bands of lace proper, rather than the simpler narrow entre-deux bands.
Oftentimes, in fact, a row entredeux is used between the edges of the 
insertion lace and the fabric, to join them together, in heirloom sewing...

There are pictures at:
http://www.cynthiahoweminiatures.com/Sewing.htm

Best to all,
Ricci
Utah

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[lace-chat] Re: help w/Excel

2006-01-03 Thread RicTorr8
Thanks to y'all -- I got the help I needed from people on this wonderful 
list!!

Ricky
Utah

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[lace-chat] 20 Uses for Useless CDs

2005-11-13 Thread RicTorr8
Dear Arachnes --
Possibly some Christmas present ideas from the Web here, easier than making 
lace! :)
Ricci
Utah


Twenty uses for useless CDs.

1)  Buy clock guts from a craft shop and make CD-clocks.
2)  shuk shuk PULL!!!  BOOM!  (plastic pigeons)
3)  Deadly missiles, especially when sharpened first with a knife blade
and honed with the diamond-file thingy from your Leatherman.
4)  Put fake new labels on them and give them away as cool games to
make the losers leave you alone.
5)  Put fake new labels on them to make them seem really important.
Leave them around as decoys to prevent damage to your REALLY important
CDs.
6)  Cut in half and sharpened as in item #3, they make curiously-shaped
knives.
7)  Enlarge the holes and mount them on your glasses.  Use as confusion
devices or as prizes to bribe people to leave you alone.
8)  Using scotch tape, you can make a Jacob's Ladder thingy that flips
and flops all the way down.
9)  Cut in half and connect to a neon-sign transformer to make a Jacob's
Ladder.  
10)  Place them in strategic locations to bounce a laser beam from your
 desk to desks of various people who need to be tortured with lasers
 being played all over them.
11)  Use one or several to wedge a door shut.
12)  When nobody's looking, thread them on various cables and replace the 
 cables.
13)  Cut into bow-ties.  Then with your pocket blowtorch, soften them and
 twist.  Caltrops!
14)  Place them in light fixtures to cause irritating glares in strategic
 locations.
15)  Photocopy them.
16)  Sharpen as in item #3 (serrate if desired) and mount on a Dremel for
 use as a saw.
17)  Cut four notches from outer edge to almost the inner circle.  Heat
 with pocket blowtorch until soft and mold into a rough cone of about
 30 degrees.  Keep the notches clear and hole intact.  Stick this
 gadget into something where a lot of air comes out really fast (like 
 a car exhause).  Listen to the whistling noise.
18)  There is no use #18.
19)  Use your pocket blowtorch again to soften a CD and wrap it around a
 doorknob, mouse, drawer handle, or other small object.
20)  Use your pocket blowtorch yet again to form one into a saddle or
 taco shape.  Fasten to ceiling and pretend it's a spy camera.

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[lace-chat] Coffee-maker or computer?

2005-11-13 Thread RicTorr8
A helpful experiment from Dr. Science, on the Net (where else?)
Ricci
Utah


Dear Doctor Science,
My home computer sits idly in the corner, sometimes. How can I modify
it so it will brew a decent cup of coffee?

-- Todd Warden from Los Angeles, CA

Chances are you're not looking at a home computer sitting idle in the
corner, but a coffee maker. Today's modern coffee makers do bear a
strong resemblance to computers, and you're probably not the first
confused user to mistake one for the other. A good experiment to
establish the identity of the appliance in the corner involves filling
the basket just under the top with coffee grounds, then pouring cold
water into the grill on top. If the fuses blow and you end up with a
floppy disc covered with coffee grounds, you're on the wrong track. But
if, moments later, you find yourself enjoying a fresh brewed cup of
coffee, well then, my hunch was correct. Good luck!
- Dr. Science

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[lace-chat] Waves

2005-10-16 Thread RicTorr8
A grandmother was walking with her little grandson along the beach, when a 
big wave came along and washed the little boy into the sea.

The grandmother started crying and praying: Please, God, save my little 
grandson! Bring him back! We'll do anything you ask!

Another wave came along and washed the little boy back onto the shore.

The grandmother looked at him, safe and sound, and cried out in prayer again, 
He had a hat!

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[lace-chat] Blessings

2005-10-14 Thread RicTorr8
A man who was fond of betting at the race tracks would always go out to the 
stables before the races to check the condition of the horses, and try to pick 
the winners.

One day, he noticed a priest back in the stables, annointing the head of one 
of the horses. That horse won the race!

The next week when he returned to the tracks, he saw that same priest 
annointing the head of another horse back in the stables. Sure enough, this 
second 
horse went out and won that race!

The following week, the man went back to the stables and saw the priest 
annoint a third horse on its head, its ears, its mane and its hoofs. The man 
wasted 
no time in rushing back and putting all his money on that horse for the 
coming race. Unfortunately, though, the horse slipped and fell during the race, 
breaking its leg.

The man went back to the stables and found the priest. Hey! he said. I saw 
you annoint those horses the last two weeks, and they won both races. Today I 
saw you annointed this horse all over, so I put all my money down on it, and 
it lost the race! What gives?

The priest sighed. That's the problem with you Protestants, he said. You 
don't know the difference between blessings and last rites.

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Re: [lace] Re: ironing question

2005-10-11 Thread RicTorr8
In a message dated 10/9/2005 11:06:50 PM Mountain Daylight Time, 
[EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:
IF the iron is working properly, the only thing leaving the vents 
should be pure H2O vapor (steam).  When water is heated to steam, it's 
the water molecules that go into the air as a gas, leaving the minerals 
behind.  The reason so many (especially older) irons needed to have 
distilled water was because those minerals left behind can build up and 
clog the steam vents and channels.

Thanks, Robin -- That makes sense -- ah, yes, I remember science class now! 
But what happens to the built-up hard water deposits in these new irons, I 
wonder, then? Do they just clog up in time?

Regards,
Ricki
Utah

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Re: [lace] Re: ironing question

2005-10-11 Thread RicTorr8
In a message dated 10/11/2005 6:07:16 PM Mountain Daylight Time, 
[EMAIL PROTECTED] (Tamara) writes:

 In my - personal - experience... The hard water (we have it also; not 
 _very_ hard, but...) will build up deposits in the reservoir, till you 
 can't see how much of it is left :) But it doesn't clog up the vents 
 too badly if you use the burst of steam feature regularly. At the end 
 of your ironing session, heat up the iron to the max (whether you need 
 it or not) making sure that some water (at least 1/4th of the 
 container) is still left in the reservoir. Then, over a rag (reusable, 
 if kept for only that purpose) hit the burst and hold it. The steam 
 will be expelled with enough force to clean the build-up. Empty the 
 rest of the water over a sink (careful; it's boiling hot)

Thanks, Tamara -- That makes sense! My burst of steam doesn't work too 
well, anymore, and that's probably why!. Hmmf! Well, I'll see if I can clear it 
out with concerted efforts, like you describe. Follow-up question: I wonder if 
I 
could put some vinegar into it, to dissolve the deposits a little, or would 
that be borrowing trouble? 

Think I'll go back to the antique one's y'all are describing, when this one 
bites the dust.

I appreciate all the input --

Ricki
Utah

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Re: [lace-chat] Re::) Fwd: Math Bell-curve

2005-10-11 Thread RicTorr8
In a message dated 10/11/2005 4:33:17 PM Mountain Daylight Time, 
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  Teaching Math In 2005
  Un hachero vende una carretada de madera para $100. El costo de la
  produccisn es $80. Cuantes tortillas se puede comprar?
  
  WHAT about tortillas???
 
  How many tortillas can be bought?  --- but the Spanish syntax is 
 incorrect.
  --
 
 
 Okay, then -- a gold star to anyone who can give us the *correct* syntax,
 please!
 
 Cuantas tortillas puede comprar?
 
 Those tortillas are feminine, and you don't need the reflexive verb 
 if you have a good old-fashioned Hachero as the subject.
 
 No se puede comprar tortillas = It's not possible to buy tortillas. 
 No particular subject...
 
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Martha gets the Gold Star! Muchas Gracias! (or should that be muchos? :) 
What about produccisn -- that doesn't look right either -- is it?

Thanks!!

Ricki
Utah 

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Re: [lace-chat] Re::) Fwd: Math Bell-curve

2005-10-10 Thread RicTorr8
In a message dated 10/10/2005 7:37:47 PM Mountain Daylight Time, 
[EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:

 
 Teaching Math In 2005
 Un hachero vende una carretada de madera para $100. El costo de la
 produccisn es $80. Cuantes tortillas se puede comprar?
 
 WHAT about tortillas???
 
 How many tortillas can be bought?  --- but the Spanish syntax is incorrect.
 -- 
 

Okay, then -- a gold star to anyone who can give us the *correct* syntax, 
please!

Ricki
Utah 

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[lace] ironing question

2005-10-09 Thread RicTorr8
HI All --

I have a question for those more experienced in working with fiber arts than 
I...

I have a Rowenta iron that cannot use distilled water -- it uses hard water. 
I don't know if it filters the water or not, but when I have tried using 
distilled water, it just steams like mad and boils through in one big hurry.

We have very hard water here, and I'm wondering if when I use it for ironing, 
it's putting hard water deposits into the fibers, and if so, if I should get 
another iron.

I can check with the manufacturer, but I wondered if any of you have any 
knowledge or experience that would be helpful, since sometimes manufacturers 
tend 
to put the spin on their products.

Regards,
Ricki
Utah 

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[lace] Belgium trip

2005-09-27 Thread RicTorr8
Hi All -
I'm planning a trip to Belgium for the end of October/beginning of November, 
and would appreciate any recommendations for lace collections or shops I 
should plan to visit, as well as any recommendations you might have for places 
to 
stay, or to avoid. 

Thanks very much!

Regards,
Ricki
Utah 

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[lace-chat] Belgium trip

2005-09-27 Thread RicTorr8
Hi All --

Does anyone have any hotels or bed-and-breakfast recommendations, or warnings 
for places to avoid, in Brussels, Antwerp and/or Brugge? I'm planning a trip 
for the end of October/beginning November, and haven't been there before. I 
would greatly appreciate any suggestions or dire warnings!

Many thanks in advance,
Ricki
Utah

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[lace-chat] Re: [lace] Tonder book/abebooks

2005-09-25 Thread RicTorr8
In a message dated 9/25/2005 8:36:14 AM Mountain Daylight Time, 
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 I've ordered through Abebooks several times. The only problem I've had is
 that once or twice after I've placed my order, I got an email back saying,
 Sorry, the book is no longer available.


Hi All --

I've had success dealing with ABE before, too -- but the thing  I found out 
is that the honest and successful handling of any book order through AbeBooks 
or AddAll is totally dependent on the actual ultimate bookseller. These are not 
book companies, but only web-listing services. I also discovered, after the 
fact, that ABE does not have any phone numbers listed on its contact page 
(although a bookseller gave me a phone number) and its headquarters are located 
in 
Canada. I don't know what kind of recourse someone would have, if they miss 
ABE's 30-day cancellation policy, dealing with international law, etc.

After talking with a bookseller about this, I found out ABE and AddAll do not 
require any kind of assurances from the booksellers they list, or conduct any 
kind of quality checking. As she said, real booksellers are very upset about 
it, because these web services will post listing for anyone or his dog, if 
they are willing to pay the listing fee. 

As I discovered, IF there is a problem, AddAll is NOT a real company at all, 
and there is NO assistance from them. ABEBooks is a little better, but not 
much. 

I went through three cycles of complaints, at all three levels (AddAll, 
ABEBooks and the third seller in NM). Nothing was really resolved until I was 
forced to cancel the credit card charge. After that, the bookseller lied, 
telling 
ABEBooks that s/he had tried to contact me numerous times, which was totally 
false, and I could prove it. 

Midway through my ordeal, which lasted 3 months, I asked my ex-FIL who lives 
in NM to try calling that third bookseller for me. He found out there is no 
listing for them in the phone book, and they also did not respond to his voice 
mail messages, as they had not to mine, also.

Apparently, this is not a real bookseller, but someone who orders books from 
someone else when s/he feels like getting around to filling an order.

This is a real risk for people dealing with companies listed on ABE or 
AddAll -- tge bookseller may or may not be a real bookseller, at all.

That's why people are better off contacting the listed bookseller directly, 
and make sure there is actually someone there, who will respond to your order 
in an honest fashion.

Regards,
Ricki
Utah

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Re: [lace-chat] Re: Katrina devastaion

2005-09-25 Thread RicTorr8
Hi All --

Some people might be interested in this article on rebuilding New Orleans -- 
at least, I thought it was interestingBut then again, I'm easily amused! 
(Even if it's really not funny)


http://www.realestatejournal.com/regionalnews/20050922-corkery.html?rejcontent=mail

Regards,
Ricki
Utah 

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[lace-chat] Jackson

2005-09-24 Thread RicTorr8
Hi All -- 

Apologies in advance, if these offend anyoneSometimes the truth hurts. 
(JUST KIDDING! :))


Q: How can you tell when Michael Jackson is having a party?

A: By all the tricyles parked on the driveway at Neverland.

* * * 

Q: What do Michael Jackson and Walmart have in common?

A: Boy's pants, half-off.

* * *
Ducking,

Ricki
Utah 

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Re: [lace-chat] Katrina devastaion

2005-09-23 Thread RicTorr8
In a message dated 9/23/2005 8:16:56 AM Mountain Daylight Time, 
[EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:
However, what I am wondering at, is the pledge to rebuild, 'just as it was'.
It seems a little silly to me to rebuild areas, and re-inhabit areas, which
are going to be in the path of even more and even stronger hurricanes (as a
result of global warming), are below sea-level, and protected just by levees
which didn't hold this time!   I wonder also whether people will want to
return to live somewhere where they have experienced such devastation - I
think I would be one who would get to the highest ground, and furthest from
the Gulf states, just in case ...   But no doubt they will get the biggest
brains in the country to sort all the logistics out - but I am sure it will
take many months indeed, if not years, to do so.

This is really an important issue. The senators from Louisiana yesterday 
proposed a massive bill (about $260 billion) to help the State recover. Among 
other things, they are concerned about addressing the continued threat it would 
pose if they rebuild just as before. It has been known for years that the levee 
system is inadequate, and the rapid erosion of the wetlands extending into the 
gulf, due primarily to offshore oil and gas development and barge traffic, is 
exposing the inhabited areas ever more to these increasingly high intensity 
storms and storm serges. It would be a big mstake to rebuild as before, and I 
don't think anyone harbors any illusions about that. The only problem is that 
to address the situation even partially will be enormously expensive, and 
require changes on many fronts.

Regards,
Ricki
Utah 

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[lace-chat] Katrina Insurance coverage Part II

2005-09-20 Thread RicTorr8
Hi All -- 
Here's another article with information about how to participate in the 
homeowners' class action, in case any of you, or your loved ones, might want to 
be 
involved.

Regards,
Ricki
Utah

RICHARD SCRUGGS LAUNCHES MAJOR LITIGATION ON BEHALF OF HURRICANE KATRINA GULF 
COAST VICTIMS AGAINST STATE FARM, ALLSTATE AND NATIONWIDE INSURANCE COMPANIES 
TO COMPEL THEM TO HONOR INSURANCE OBLIGATIONS

- Live Press Conference in Damaged Area to be held at 12 pm CDT on Friday, 
September 16, 2005 in Pascagoula Mississippi -

- A Follow-up Telephonic Press Conference Will Begin at 1 pm CDT -

PASCAGOULA, Miss., Sept. 15 /PRNewswire/ -- Attorney Richard F. Scruggs, 
known for his successful litigation against tobacco companies, announced today 
that he is launching major litigation against State Farm, Allstate, Nationwide 
and other Property and Casualty Insurance Companies on behalf of Mississippi 
and 
Alabama Gulf Coast residents who have suffered catastrophic damage from 
Hurricane Katrina.

The litigation will seek to compel the insurance companies to honor insurance 
obligations that the companies are seeking to reduce or eliminate through 
loopholes and deceptively written policy exclusions. These homeowner policies 
clearly provide for comprehensive coverage for any and all hurricane damage. 
The 
insurance companies are attempting to minimize their hurricane coverage by 
intentionally misclassifying the hurricane's destruction as mere flooding. The 
litigation led by Dick Scruggs will be designed to recover the damages due to 
policyholders under their policies. It is part of a coordinated legal effort 
involving attorneys throughout the Louisiana, Mississippi, Alabama region.

Mr. Scruggs said, The intentional effort by these insurance companies to 
avoid meeting their policy obligations is devastation on top of devastation. 
What 
this means for these communities is no ability to rebuild homes, further 
substantial financial hardship and subversion of the area's economic 
redevelopment. As a community member, neighbor and victim of the hurricane, I 
simply cannot 
sit by and allow this needless exploitation of those of us who live and work 
in the Gulf Coast region.

The live press conference will begin at 12 pm CDST on Friday, September 16, 
2005 at 1025 Beach Boulevard (at the intersection of Pascagoula Street) in 
Pascagoula, Mississippi. Following the live press conference, a follow-up 
telephonically enabled press conference will be held at 1 pm CDT at the Nelson 
House, 
4836 Main Street in Moss Point, Mississippi (enter at back of the building on 
Morris Street). Callers may dial-in to participate on the conference call at 
(800) 946-0705. A replay of the press conference will be available beginning at 
4 pm CDT until midnight on October 15th by calling (719) 457-0820 or (888) 
203-1112 for 30 days. The passcode is 8416307. Homeowners that would like to 
join the litigation should call The Scruggs Hurricane Katrina Hotline at 
1-866-844-5088. The phone number will be activated no later than Saturday, 
September 
17, 2005.

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[lace-chat] Katrina Insurance Reinsurance

2005-09-20 Thread RicTorr8
Hi All --

Here's another article that might be of some interest. It states that AM 
Best's is predicting that none of the well-rated insurance companies will be 
adversely affected by Katrina losses, although others mau not be able to meet 
their 
obligations. I've seen reports on the predicted losses by several major 
insurers, so they are planning to pay somebody! However, a lot of these 
reported 
losses will be paid under commercial policies, rather than homeowners' 
policies. 
This article states Lloyd's is predicting losses at $2.5 billion. The 
reinsurers are another concern being discussed in this article and elsewhere -- 
reinsurers, in effect, insure the insurers for certain losses they have to pay 
out. 


Regards,
Ricki
Utah

OLDWICK, N.J.--(BUSINESS WIRE)--Sept. 16, 2005--Hurricane Katrina, the most 
expensive storm on record, has brought back into the spotlight the 
controversial issue of requiring non-U.S. reinsurers to maintain trust funds in 
the United 
States as collateral for the payment of anticipated claims.

The debate typically would ratchet up after high-impact catastrophes when 
reinsurers were required to almost immediately post 100% of their liabilities 
into the trust funds, according to an exclusive report in the Sept. 19 BestWeek.

Lloyd's, among the most vocal opponents of the trust fund regulation, 
reiterated its opposition to the U.S. policy last week, although it insisted 
the 
company would have no problem meeting all of its Katrina liabilities.

So far, Lloyd's estimates Katrina will create a net loss of $2.55 billion on 
its businesses. The effect on its central fund--available to cash-strapped 
syndicates that have exhausted their own coffers--would be immaterial, it 
said.

Also, nothing suggests that Lloyd's syndicates would not be able to trade 
forwards as a result of the Hurricane Katrina, the company said in a statement.

Other exclusive BestWeek content is a comprehensive rating action taken by 
A.M. Best Co. regarding major companies with exposure to Hurricane Katrina. 
A.M. 
Best said it expects all rated companies to be able to meet their current 
loss obligations despite the projected magnitude of the insured losses. 
However, 
the insured losses from Katrina have had a significant impact on some 
insurers, leaving potential capital shortfalls relative to their current rating 
level 
and also calling into question the risk management capabilities of some 
insurers, A.M. Best said.

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Re: [lace-chat] Railroads

2005-09-20 Thread RicTorr8
In a message dated 9/20/2005 11:57:01 AM Mountain Daylight Time, 
[EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:

 Railroads
 
 The US standard railroad gauge (distance between the rails) is 4 feet, 8.5 
 inches. That's an exceedingly odd number. Why was that gauge used?
 


Looks like this is another urban legend.Too bad, though -- it sure makes 
a great story!

See:

http://www.snopes.com/history/american/gauge.htm


http://www.straightdope.com/columns/000218.html


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Ricki
Utah 

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[lace-chat] Katrina insurance coverage

2005-09-19 Thread RicTorr8
Hi All --

I thought some people might be interested in this. Perhaps you all have seen
President Bush saying he is going to try to find out about insurance coverage
for damages and losses related to Katrina. It's going to be a matter of
determining what was the cause of the losses, where a chain of causes is
involved. I
know which way most insurers will prefer to argue it! But then again, there
will be a lot of pressure from public scrutiny on these determinations that
may
help people in a bind - let's hope. This blurb is from Mealey's Insurance
Litigation Reports.

Regards,
Ricki
Utah

Homeowners' CLASS ACTION seeks coverage for flooding in new orleans

BATON ROUGE, La. - A class action lawsuit filed Sept. 16 against the
Louisiana insurance commissioner and numerous insurance companies seeks a
declaration
that flooding in the City of New Orleans sustained during Hurricane Katrina
was caused by breaches in the city's flood walls and does not fall within the
exclusions for rising water or an act of God, contained in most standard
homeowners' policies (Gladys Chehardy et al., v. Lousiana Insurance
Commissioner
J. Robert Wooley, et al, No. 536451, 19th Jud. Dist).

The plaintiffs also ask the 19th Judicial District Court for the Parish of
East Baton Rouge to find that the losses from water entering the city are
attributable to a windstorm, a standard covered peril in the insurance
policies.

According to the complaint, up to 160,000 homes are estimated to be unusable
as a result of the hurricane and it appears that after investigations are
completed, there will tens and possibly hundreds of thousands of people who
could
be part of the class action lawsuit.

The issues presented in this Petition should be decided by declaratory
judgment inasmuch as their resolution involves a major public policy issue
which
will affect thousands of Louisiana citizens, many of whom will suffer enormous
emotional and financial damage until the issue is decided.  While the
insurance
companies may continue to make investment income during the course of any
protracted legal proceedings, homeowners on the other hand have little
recourse
but to sit idly by awaiting a decision, all the while being unable to begin
reconstruction or renovation of their homes until they have the money to pay
their contractors.   As a result, without resolution of this issue by
declaratory
judgment, thousands of homeowners will be left stranded for months, or perhaps
even years, the plaintiffs say.

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Re: [lace-chat] Perception of Katrina

2005-09-11 Thread RicTorr8
In a message dated 9/11/2005 2:04:56 AM Mountain Daylight Time, 
[EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:

 When the tsunami hit, there were buckets at supermarket checkouts, people 
 holding fund-raising events and and a huge appeal went out. For this there's 
 
 not even a hint that anyone wants to make a donation - after all the US is 
 the most powerful, richest nation in the world.
 


As true as the rest of your perceptions seem to be, this aspect has 
apparently been underreported. There have been quite a few sizeable fundraising 
efforts 
underway, including a concert, sponsored by the Red Cross. The thing that 
bothers me about that is having heard reports from people on the ground in New 
Orleans (yes there were other places devastated, but New Orleans seems to have 
been the primary large inhabited area affected drastically) a week or so later, 
saying they had not seen anyone from the Red Cross, or the Salvation Army (in 
the quotes I heard) there. This, coupled with an interview I saw with the 
head of the Red Cross, bothered me -- when asked directly how much of the 
donations they receive go directly to assist the victims, he sidestepped the 
question, and merely said they don't have enough funds to accomplish what needs 
to be 
done. That I can believe -- BUT?

If I weren't unemployed, I would have donated something -- but not to the Red 
Cross.
I probably would have helped out some of the abandoned pet efforts underway.

Regards,
Ricki
Utah

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Re: [lace-chat] Re: Gossamer threads/evolution

2005-09-08 Thread RicTorr8
In a message dated 9/8/2005 9:48:51 AM Mountain Daylight Time, 
[EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:

 We refer to the random-change theory as the theory, rather than a 
 theory, because all other theories have dropped out of serious 
 consideration; so 
 far all our epicycle analogs have fit right in, without becoming un-needed 
 complication, so the random-change theory of evolution hasn't needed 
 replacing 
 the way the perfect-circle theory of planetary movement did.  
 


Well, I don't want to get into a big argument about all this. It's a 
minefield. Suffice it to say, there are analogues to epicycle add-ons under 
modern 
evolutionary theory, due to the lack of fossil records documenting hypothetical 
transitional links and intermediate forms. 

See, e.g.,  http://emporium.turnpike.net/C/cs/evid1.htm

It has been a surprise to me to learn this, having been thoroughly educated 
through some 20+ years of school in the theory of evoltuion (albeit at a 
primarily nontechnical level - I'm not a biologist). While I was in college, I 
attended a science lecture on the holes in the theory that were emerging, 
requiring 
revisions (epicycle analogues) due to the lack of evidence of interediate 
forms. This was my first inkling that the theory is not as water-tight as is 
commonly supposed by the educated class. 

You may have heard that some of the supposed intermediate forms were recently 
exposed as frauds. See e.g. http://www.darwinism-watch.com/new_page.php

The fact is, the theory of evolution remains a theory, not a proven fact. 
(Like it or not!)

That said, I respect people's right to believe it, the same as I respect 
people's right not to believe it. We're all in the dark, here.

Regards,
Ricki
Utah

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Re: [lace] RE: IOLI contest submission query

2005-09-07 Thread RicTorr8
In a message dated 9/7/2005 1:58:09 PM Mountain Daylight Time, 
[EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:
I'm not sure I see why it would be pertinent to the contest to send
photos first, except to perhaps give the Contest Chair some idea of how
to display a finished item, if it were 3D (and 1 person did this, this
year).

I gather the main concern is having entries get lost or damaged in shipping 
by carriers. 

I wonder if it would be possible for IOLI to allow persons to submit 
professional quality photographs in advance, as an alternative to shipping the 
actual 
piece for photographing by IOLI staff, for people who would rather not take 
that risk. Or is the judging done around the same time as the photographing? 

I am completely new to all this, so these are really just some questions for 
you all who know the ropes, from a curious bystander who does not intend to 
participate in this go-round

Regards,
Ricki
Utah

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Re: [lace] IOLI entries (short retorts)

2005-09-05 Thread RicTorr8
In a message dated 9/4/2005 11:40:56 PM Mountain Daylight Time, 
[EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:

 If I've spent hours and hours making a piece of lace, I want it to reach
 its destination. If that doesn't happen, insurance money won't replace
 the item.

Spot on.

This is true in the absolute sense. Still, think about the times when people 
receive money compensation, from a court or insurance company, for losses and 
damages that really can't ever be made whole -- from permanent injuries to 
one's physical body, or, worse still, the loss of a loved one -- or, closer to 
the topic of this liss, the loss of an irreplaceable item with significant 
value, sentimental, historical, or financial, or all three.

Money can't really make it up to someone, but it does help take the sting 
out, to some degreeat least, it is an acknowledgement of the loss, and 
gives the recipient some resources, that may be helpful in some way.

I may be wrong about this -- I am going to see what else I can find out, as I 
promised the list -- but my impression so far is that an appraisal probably 
would not be required for something on the low end of the scale -- say in the 
hundreds of dollars. A good quality photograph, with records of what was 
involved in making or acquiring the piece, would probably suffice. If it is 
something on the higher end of the scale, like Aurelia described, then it would 
be 
best to have it appraised. But, like Jeri said, you should talk to your 
insurance 
agent or broker about specific items you want to have included on your 
insurance. Ask them what they would require to cover it under your policy. 

As to insurance companies in general, like everything else, there are good 
and bad ones. People need to educate themselves a bit, and find out what they 
can about the company involved. US states have insurance commissions that rate 
the insurers in their states, and no doubt other countries must have something 
similar. Find one with a decent rating in the type of insurance you are buying 
-- talk to your agent or broker -- establish a good relationship with them, 
and make sure you meet any requirements to establish the value of the item(s) 
of concern, and to file any claims that might become necessary. Policies have 
notice requirements, and deadlines for filing claims, for example. Those have 
to be met, or the claim will not survive. Keep your paperwork and supporting 
documentation in a safe place! 

Regards,
Ricki

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[lace] Insurance ratings

2005-09-05 Thread RicTorr8
Hi All -

People who are interested in insuring their lace (or other) properties might 
want to be aware of this website:
http://www.ambest.com/

AM Best's is the top insurance rating company in the world. They update 
ratings every year. You can search the website for particular companies, and 
find 
their ratings online, as well as updates on company ratings -- such as whether 
a company is under review for possible downgrading, or has been put into 
insolvency / receivership.

Regards,

Ricki
Utah

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Re: [lace] Insurance ratings

2005-09-05 Thread RicTorr8
In a message dated 9/5/2005 10:10:22 AM Mountain Daylight Time, 
[EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:
Yes, Ricki, but one apparently has to buy the CD to get the rating. I'm 
roadkill on the information superhighway, but I couldn't click on any site 
to get a free rating.  In the USA, I advise one to contact their State 
Insurance Commission or local Better Business Bureau.  They're free. But my 
best insurance advice is trust and have confidence in your agent, and for 
goodness sake, ask questions and read your policy!

Ooops -- Sorry about that. I used to use AM Bests at work all the time, and I 
didn't realize we had saved our subscription information to my computerI 
should have doublechecked! 

This website does offer some ratings comparisons, but it's not as 
comprehensive -- you might be able to find some helpful information. It's 
apparently a 
sponsored site, but clicking through a few pages, I saw some ratings 
comparisons.
http://www.ambests.com/

Regards,
Ricky 

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Re: [lace] Pricing lace - was IOLI Mail

2005-09-04 Thread RicTorr8
In a message dated 9/4/2005 7:05:13 AM Mountain Daylight Time, 
[EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:
Although there is barely any information available about comps or  
comparable pieces whose prices are established at auction for antique lace,  
there is 
even less information about the actual selling price of newly made  lace. It 
might be a worthy project for persons with time on their hands  :-) to try to 
make a list of prices paid for lace recently made by  Europeans and Americans 

Hi All - 

I'm actually doing a little bit of research on this issue and related 
matters, since I have time on my hands, and I've got some familiarity with 
insurance 
law. I'll report back when I get a better handle on it. 

Preliminarily, rom what I've seen so far, it looks like y'all would be much 
best off putting such losses on a personal homeowner's policy, as Jeri 
suggested, rather than trying to recover from whoever transported it.

 For lace pieces of significant value, you should have them separately 
identified on a floater or endorsement, with their value listed. 

As to valuation, that's an art in itself. I'm still checking into that -- but 
if the lace is worth a lot, you would want to have a competent written 
appraisal made to substantiate the claimed value of the piece.

It doesn't look like most exhibits of this sort (i.e., IOLI) offer insurance 
to cover items lost or damaged  in transport to or from the exhnibit (unless 
it is a travelling exhibit, per se)). 

Some exhibits do offer insurance for items lost or damaged during the exhibit 
itself, while others don't. From what Helen, I believe it was said, it sounds 
like IOLI has been handling the issue of liability by requiring entrants to 
sign a waiver. 

One more thing to keep in mind is that insurance law varies state by state, 
and country by country. There is no universal rule that applies. If you have 
your valuable laces covered on a personal property policy, under whatever law 
governs your place of residence, the policy should cover it even if it is 
damaged or lost in transit away from your home.

Anyways, I'm going to look into this a bit further, and see if I can find 
anything further to clarify the situation

Regards,
Ricki

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[lace] Insurance

2005-09-04 Thread RicTorr8
In a message dated 9/4/2005 7:05:13 AM Mountain Daylight Time, 
[EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:
Although there is barely any information available about comps or  
comparable pieces whose prices are established at auction for antique lace,  
there is 
even less information about the actual selling price of newly made  lace. It 
might be a worthy project for persons with time on their hands  :-) to try to 
make a list of prices paid for lace recently made by  Europeans and Americans 

Hi All - 

Doesn't look like my earlier message came through, so I'm trying again

I've actually been doing a little bit of research on this issue and related 
matters, since I have some time on my hands, and some familiarity with 
insurance law, although I have not worked in the area of personal lines 
(i.e., 
homeowners policies) much at all.

So let me preface these remarks by saying that they should not be deemed to 
constitute legal advice. It should be noted that each state, and every country, 
has its own insurance laws and regulations. Although there are some 
similarities across the board, there are no overarching laws that have 
international 
application in the field of insurance law, to date. And each company has its 
own 
policy language, within the parameters of the law, so each one may differ in 
the specific coverage offered.

Preliminarily, from what I've seen so far, it looks like generally contest 
entrants would be best off putting items of significant value on a personal 
homeowner's policy, as Jeri suggested, if possible, rather than trying to 
recover 
the value of such items lost or damaged from the post office, UPS, Fed Ex, or 
whoever transports it for you.

Here's a page that lists some insurance companies which apparently have some 
expertise in providing coverage for specialty kinds of items that might be 
worth looking over. These companies operate primarily in the UK and the US, to 
my 
knowledge -- possibly Canada, as well.
http://www.periodproperty.co.uk/specialistinsurers.shtml

For lace pieces of significant value, you should have them separately 
identified on a floater or endorsement to the homeowners' policy, with the 
value of 
each piece individually listed. 

As to valuation of the piece, that's an art in itself. I'm still checking 
into that issue -- but I think it's clear that if the value of the lace is 
significant, you would want to have a written appraisal made to substantiate 
the 
claimed value of the piece, prior to its loss or damage.

Here's a webpage discussing professional appraisals, that might be of some 
help in identifying the kinds of things to be considered, if you have pieces of 
significant value that you want to cover on your insurance policy, although it 
is not directly on point concerning lace, per se:
http://www.biddingtons.com/content/investingappraisal.html

It is a good idea to have the piece photographed, too, in order to 
substantiate the claimed value of the item, as Jeri also suggested.

Apparently most exhibits of this sort (i.e., IOLI) do NOT offer insurance to 
cover items lost or damaged  in transport to or from the exhnibit (unless it 
is a travelling exhibit, per se, which this isn't.)

Some exhibits do offer insurance for items lost or damaged during the exhibit 
itself, while others don't. From what Helen (I believe) said, it sounds like 
IOLI has been handling the issue of liability by requiring entrants to sign a 
waiver. That's probably the least-cost solution, unless too many IOLI 
participants cannot obtain their own personal insurance coverage.

If you have your valuable pieces covered on a personal property policy, the 
policy should cover it even if it is damaged or lost in transit or while it is 
away from your home.

I'll look into all this a bit further, and if I can find anything further to 
clarify the situation, I'll report back to y'all.

Regards,
Ricki
Utah

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Re: [lace] Re: IOLI contest entries

2005-09-04 Thread RicTorr8
In a message dated 9/4/2005 12:12:31 AM Mountain Daylight Time, 
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The entries need to be photographed and ready for publication in the 
IOLI Bulletin *before* the Convention, so that the person designated to 
photograph them can have a shot at enjoying the Convention experience, 
instead of paying out oodles of hotel/food money for the priviledge 
of trying to photograph all the entries (possibly in bad light), oncce 
they'd been arranged on the display tables.


Could the IOLI hosts require the entrants to submit photographs for the 
Bulletin, instead of undertaking that photographing responsibility themselves? 
That 
would relieve the hosts from undertaking that additional task. Also, 
presumably, more people could bring their own lace with them, or send the 
pieces with 
someone else they trust. People who have photographs of their work would also 
better be able to substantiate any loss or damage under their homeowners' 
policy, if necessary. Furthermore, insurance companies recommend that pieces of 
value should be photographed for documentation under their property policy, as 
noted in my previous message

Just a thought.

Regards,

Ricki
Utah 

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[lace] IOLI convention - photographs

2005-09-04 Thread RicTorr8
In a message dated 9/4/2005 1:35:20 PM Mountain Daylight Time, 
[EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:
No, the quality of the photography would be far too variable. One of 
the (many) features of our classy Bulletin is the fine photography 
in it.  We wpuldn't want to sacrifice that.  --  Aurelia

That's a good point. I haven't been through that cycle of the Bulletin yet, 
and was not aware of that aspect of the issue. Some articles I saw on 
documenting valuables for insurance purposes suggest that it is worthwhile to 
consider 
having them professionally photographed. However, that might be beyond the 
means of some participants, I assume. If they are photographed by IOLI 
(assuming 
they make it to the destination, unharmed), that at least could help serve as 
documentation for any subsequent loss or damage (God forbid).

Ricki
Utah

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Re: [lace] Lovely lace on ebay...

2005-09-04 Thread RicTorr8
In a message dated 9/4/2005 4:03:30 PM Mountain Daylight Time, 
[EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:
Ah! a Table Ribbon!

Happy Lacemaking,
Betty Ann in Roanoke, Virginia USA

Good point. Okay -- public advisory message:  IF this rable ribbon shows up 
in next year's competition entries -- we're ALL on to it! :-)

Ricki in UT

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Re: [lace] Re: Lovely lace on ebay...

2005-09-04 Thread RicTorr8
In a message dated 9/4/2005 5:22:36 PM Mountain Daylight Time, 
[EMAIL PROTECTED] (Tamara) writes:
One could use it as a table ribbon on one's own table (and a better 
place than as a sheet decoration, IMO, for such a lovely piece),
Absolutely right about that.

but as 
an IOLI entry it would have been disqualified :)

It's the right width, but: it's too long, it's a single colour, and the 
ends are cut off and hemmed, instead of carrying a pattern...

Hmmm. I didn't realize they have to be multicolored - but I haven't read the 
rules closely enough, obviously. Cut off and hemmed, too, huh? Hope everyone 
else is taking note of this! :)) But seriously, I would love to be able to 
make a table ribbon - really does sound like a lovely idea - something even 
Martha Stewart would approve of, and she's my idol, even if she does wear an 
ankleband -- but it's clearly beyond my capabilities at this point. I certainly 
will 
be interested to see what other people come up with, though! 

Regards,
Ricki
Utah, homemakers' (and jello) capitol of the world (I say, with all humility)

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[lace-chat] Man Finds 9-Inch Centipede Behind TV

2005-09-04 Thread RicTorr8
From the Associated Press:

Man Finds 9-Inch Centipede Rustling Behind TV

LONDON (Aug. 31) - Aaron Balick expected to find a tiny mouse rustling behind 
the TV in his apartment. Instead, he found a venomous giant centipede that 
somehow hitched a ride from South America to Britain.
Thinking it was a mouse, I went to investigate the sound. The sound was 
coming from under some papers which I lifted, expecting to see the mouse 
scamper 
away, the 32-year-old psychotherapist said Wednesday. Instead, when I lifted 
the papers, I saw this prehistoric looking animal skitter away behind a stack 
of books.
He trapped the 9-inch-long creature between a stack of books and put it in a 
plastic container.
The next day he took it to Britain's Natural History Museum, which identified 
the insect as a Scolopendra gigantea - the world's biggest species of 
centipede.
Stuart Hine, an entomologist at the museum, said it was likely the centipede 
hitched a ride aboard a freighter, likely with a shipment of fruit.
Dealing with over 4,000 public and commercial inquiries every year, we have 
come to expect the unexpected. However, when Aaron produced this beast from 
his bag I was staggered, Hine said. Not even I expected to be presented with 
this.
The Scolopendra gigantea has front claws that are adapted to deliver venom 
when it stings, which can lead to a blistering rash, nausea and fever. The 
sting 
is rarely life-threatening, but painful.
08/31/05 10:50 EDT

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Re: [lace-chat] Re: Woman Torches House Trying to Kill Spiders

2005-09-04 Thread RicTorr8
In a message dated 9/4/2005 5:24:33 PM Mountain Daylight Time, 
[EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:
Obviously, not a lacemaker: doesn't appreciate Arachnids, dim-witted, 
and clumsy with it... :)

True - she got what she deserved. :))
The good news is the spiders got away. AND the asbestos-like webs remained 
intact. I'll be over there harvesting those webs, soon as I finish spinning 
with 
the ones around here.

Ricki
Utah 

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Re: [lace] IOLI contest entries

2005-09-02 Thread RicTorr8
In a message dated 9/2/2005 8:20:39 PM Mountain Daylight Time, 
[EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:
is something to think about.  I think everyone would rest easier if the 
contest entries were covered by insurance.   Someone should be asking:  Does 
IOLI 
have an insurance policy that would cover such an international trip for 
valuable laces?


That's a good point. Since I have worked with the insurance industry, though, 
I think it might be difficult to establish suitable limits to cover the 
items, coming as they will from an indeterminate number of various makers, each 
of 
whom, no doubt, considers her/his entry as beyond replacement value, as 
wellJeri's point leads me to I wonder, does anyone know if something 
comparable 
has ever been addressed at former conventions, and, if so, how? It would be 
easier for each person who was concerned about potential loss to insure the 
entry individually, although less satisfactory, obviously, from the 
institutional 
(and possibly financial) standpoint

Regards,
Ricki
Utah 

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