Re: [lace] Baby piece

2014-08-21 Thread Sue
Thank you Janice, I now have this pattern and have printed it off to show my 
neighbour.  I worked this for a young women 6 years ago I think when she had 
a baby girl to attach to a card.
This type of design has been mentioned by several people so it appears to be 
a popular choice:-)

Sue T


I have sent a copy of my rocking horse pattern to Sue.  Mine is a simple
tape lace suitable for beginners, especially as the ending is all the 
threads

tied together to form the tail.  Any tallies can be replaced with beads or
just done in a plait.  Thanks for remembering it Jane.  Wish we had 
somewhere

to place patterns written in Word.
Janice

HI All,  I'm thinking I have seen a
tape lace rocking horse by Janice
Blair.  I may be dreaming but Janice can
tell us.  What a lovely idea!

Jane in Vermont, USA where we are having
exquisite weather!


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Re: [lace] Sacramento Arachne Photo

2014-08-21 Thread Sue Babbs

I made a start on filling in names.

Back row:  ,  ,  ,   ,  Janice Blair,  , Jean Leader

Middle row: ,  Susan Hottle

Front row: Devon Thein, , ,  Karen Thompson,   ,,   , Janet 
Goodacre


The photo isn't the clearest so I hope I got you right

If you can't figure out how to edit the flickr site, reply to me and fill in 
your name on the appropriate row and I will edit the site for you


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Re: [lace] Baby piece/patterns in Word

2014-08-21 Thread Sue Babbs
or you could scan in the instructions and save them as .jpeg and put them on 
Flickr!




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Re: [lace] Baby piece/patterns in Word

2014-08-21 Thread Sue Babbs
Janice sent the word doc to me  the jpeg of it is now in her Flickr album. 


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http://babbsandbaobabs.blogspot.com 
-Original Message- 
From: Bev Walker 
Sent: Thursday, August 21, 2014 6:10 PM 
To: Janice Blair 
Cc: lace 
Subject: Re: [lace] Baby piece/patterns in Word 


Hi Janice and everyone
Even better is the idea from Sue Babbs to scan a print copy of your Word
doc., and post the jpg to flickr :)
(you can google 'google drive' and google will explain better than I can -
but I do like Sue's idea!)

On Thu, Aug 21, 2014 at 4:02 PM, Janice Blair jbl...@sbcglobal.net wrote:


I'm not familiar with Google Drive, can you give an explanation of how to
do it?


--
Bev in Shirley BC, near Sooke on beautiful Vancouver Island, west coast of
Canada

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[lace] Baby piece

2014-08-20 Thread Sue
Hi spiders
My neighbour, who I have been helping to learn to make lace over the months of
this year has just become a grandmother again to a new baby girl and my
husband suggested she might like to make a small piece of lace for the new
baby.  Now had we started a couple of months ago we might have achieved
something to go on the card for the arrival, but that happened in the week and
she is still working, slowly on and off on her poppy.  One more petal to go.
We have not had a lace session this month due to my husbands birthday and then
some major family situation when he brother was shipping back to this country
8 months after a major accident which has left him with some major brain
damage, so for a woman who already has a couple of serious health issues
herself it has been a very stressful month and not conducive to calm lace
making.  Anyway I spoke to her this morning about the baby lace and she seemed
pleased with the idea so I am again coming through all of you to ask if you
have any suggestions of simple braid type lace pieces that might go into a
frame on the babies wall and not be consigned to a drawer after the first few
days.  I have seen a stork but thats for the here and now, not for a young
child, have seen the elephants on the lace guild site which looked good, so
are there any other good pieces out there.
I will check out my books during the afternoon to see if anything comes up but
its difficult to know what pieces are available without having every book that
exists and most I have never seen or heard of but I do have a goodly number
myself so far.

I am sure there are one or two grandmothers out there so would be interested
to know what ideas you might have used yourselves.
Always grateful
Sue T
Dorset

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[lace] Wedding Day

2014-08-20 Thread Sue Harvey
At last my lace ring pillow has been used.  My Gt. nephew married his lovely 
bride on Saturday and their son Charlie carried the pillow and carried out his 
duties really well.  The whole day was lovely.  I tried to upload to my album 
but it went on to the Arachne flicker site ( probably did it wrong) 
Sue M Harvey
Norfolk
UK 

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Re: [lace-chat] Pennsic Wars

2014-08-20 Thread Sue
Our group was an informal lot, and met up in a piece of privately owned 
ancient woodland with a big field attached.   For a number of years it 
worked very well with a few competitions of hawk throwing and knife 
throwing.   One session where they were working with flint and steel to 
light a fire. I learned quite a bit from one of our friends about cooking on 
the camp fire and many pleasant evenings spent round log fires, chatting. 
The sight of a field half full of tents and tipis with candle lanterns 
burning and some of the fires lit is magical.
Many of the folk there took up some sort of craft, beadwork, weaving on 
finger looms and jewellery making so my lace pillow fitted in very well.
We imported a few books from America about Buckskinning and still have those 
in our shelves today all these years later.   Our costumes were generally 
made with cotton, wool or leather, most as practical as possible for working 
around the tent during the day and then dressing up in better for the 
evenings and my blanket coat is still up in the loft, which we made out of a 
whitney blanket.   Some of our day stuff was a bit tongue in cheek and we 
once organised a hobby horse race with the men starting off running the 
course between the tents guaranteed to have us all in noisy laughter all 
afternoon.   In the evening my husband sang a song he had made up mentioning 
various people and their part in the race was very well received.
For One of the arachne lace exchanges my partner sent me the humming bird 
(before I bought the disc and made one myself).   It was definitely the best 
one I could have received and is now attached to my long pocket which is 
part of my evening dressing up outfit, as well as some lace cuffs and a lace 
edged kerchief I made to wear to keep drafts off my neck and prevent pain 
but looked ideal.So I was able to bring both hobbies together for about 
7 years before we stopped going, but we still have the costumes stored.
We also went to the re enactors market when it was held in Oxford one year 
and close to there another year.  Ruth Goodman was there manning her stall 
which was all about Tudor times which is her favourite time but she also 
does other television programs from other times down the centuries for 
british television one of which featured Pat  (sorry my brains gone dead) 
the lady who got a cbe for services to lacemaking last year who showed her 
how to work a piece of bobbin lace to give to the lady of the mansion when 
they did a christmas special.

Right time to get back into the here and now, I have some work to do.
Sue T
Dorset UK


Okay, now I know it is SCA.  I didn't know anything about either when I 
lived

in Pennsylvania.  I had heard the name, probably on Arachne at some time but
never followed it up.  Sounds like fun.  I remember going to a reenactment 
in
Lichfield, England when my kids were little and it sounds a lot like that. 
I
went again on a visit and this time found a bobbin maker and bought my one 
and

only jingle bobbin.  I used to demo at another reenactment in Illinois every
September, but it was only for a weekend, which was enough sometimes as it
could be very cold.
Janice Blair
Murrieta, CA, 60 miles north of
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Re: [lace-chat] Pennsic Wars

2014-08-20 Thread Sue
There are many re enactment groups in this country.   Many different times in
history and includes American, Roman, Tudor and any other time you can think
of.It amazes me how much time and effort goes into researching to get
things right and so many times crafts come in as well. We had someone come and
demonstrate how a forge worked and allowed people to try their hand at it.
My husbands character was of a scot who had gone out to the americas on a
vessel and been left behind, so I ended up making the red and beige jacket,
kilt, knitted white socks and then 18 months into my lacemaking learning I
made him a jabot and cuffs to wear with the jacket.   We bought a pair of
trews which were worn more than the kilt (it can be very chilly even in August
at many of these events).   Although I spent more time in colonial type
costume with the lovely tight laced wool waistcoat which kept my back nicely
warm, he made me a couple of different leather fringed dresses, hand stitched
and beaded, sewed beads onto my moccies and also some leggins up to the knee
also beaded.   My possibles bag was made by him for me with a fabulous turtle
design on the front, cut away leather with felt showing through, plaited
leather around the shell part, beads, fringes with bells on the bottom so they
could tell whether i was in a hurry or not going about my business on the
field by the jingles I made, I heard someone say ‘here comes a woman on a
mission,’ LOL.   His bag had a bear paw on the front, almost his signature
for a while, beautiful work.   I was always stunned by his ideas and the end
product and able to offer suggestions sometimes.   I tried to make a dream
catcher once with a bear paw inside the lace to go in the centre of the ring,
its ok but not as good as i would have liked, but I was still a fairly new
lacemaker at the time, so i wont beat myself up about it. Another one had the
dragonfly from one of my patterns. It hung on my wall for a long time and I
hung it outside our tent at quite a few camps in the awning part.
We got into this via the American confederate and union balls and country
music venues we went to.  In my folder on Arachne (HURWITZEND) there is a
photo of us dancing in my lace ball gown and he in mountain man gear I think.
You see I have always been a lover of lace
Sue T
Dorset

Seems odd to me that you in Britain are reenacting American history and over
here the SCA are doing reenactments loosely based on European history.  I
guess whatever appeals works.  Kind of like lace where we all have our own
favorite type of lace.
Janice

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Murrieta, CA, 60 miles north of San Diego
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www.lacemakersofillinois.org

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Re: [lace-chat] Pennsic Wars

2014-08-19 Thread Sue
Sounds amazing and I did just look on google.   Didn't see anything lace 
though sadly.


We used to do living history American fur trapper times and we made a Tipi 
and used it for a couple of seasons camps. Amazing dwellings and I would 
think the yurt would be fantastic.  Moving the 22 ft poles about because too 
difficult for us so we went back to using a trailer caravan and using a 
white wall A frame we made instead just to sit around in the day time. I 
took my lace pillow there several summers and did some bits of work.  Always 
something that it didn't matter if it got dirty but would be useable if it 
came home clean at the end of the time.

Fun days and great social interaction.
Sue T
Dorset UK

-Original Message- 
From: Martha Krieg  Pennsic Wars

Pennsic Wars - Google will provide videos of same, though I don't
fight.  Yes, lace was involved. Sunday Aug 3 was Lacemaking day on
Artisan's Row
. My son-in-law and my daughter built their own 16-foot diameter
yurt which will stand up to any weather that has been thrown at it so
far (including up to 60 mph winds three years ago); I use a modern tent
because I want to be able to set it up and take it down by myself if I
have to,
On 8/18/14, 6:50 PM, Janice Blair wrote:
Can we get an explanation of the Pennsic Wars.  Where was it held, what 
did

you wear, was lace involved?  Doubt that but maybe you can enlighten us.
  Sounds like a lot of folk involved.  Was it muddy or did you get good
weather?
Janice

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[lace] How can you estimate thread

2014-08-14 Thread Sue
I have just finished drooling over the most beautiful piece of Russian lace,
it was a bolero/waistcoat/shrug type garment.  Fairly simple but so elegant I
want to try to draw a pattern in a similar way as I have no idea where I could
buy a pattern like that.  All the russian lace patterns I have are picture
type things, or collars.   I almost made one of those but got involved in
another longer project for my Mum in the time I could have used for it so
didn’t actually get it done.I think I would get much more mileage out of
a waistcoat than a collar.
BUT by question is how on earth do I calculate the amount of thread I might
need to purchase at the same time to make sure I had enough for the whole
thing.  I have tried in the past to estimate for a set of napkins and have
lots of spools in my box waiting for me to maybe make some lace for a
tablecloth to match maybe, but I dont want to be short of thread either.
I have chosen my thread of choice (Gutterman silk) and also the colour of
choice as I have one in my box.
Most of the pattern will be trails of tape/braid so just passives and joining
links and then little bits of pattern, but not much between areas once I work
out what I like and how to draw it onto my pattern.   I am hoping to make this
my big project for after the christmas pieces are done, so to be worked over
december, january and february maybe so it gives me chance to attempt the
pattern and get that right before I begin, but I would like to get the thread
before that is done and I can begin.
Sue T
Dorset UK

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Re: [lace] How can you estimate thread

2014-08-14 Thread Sue
Thank you for the voice of sanity,  My mind couldn't consider where to begin 
but having read this it is so obvious and I bet several of you are laughing 
at the screen right now.   So first to find a paper pattern shape and start 
playing with a pencil.   I knew it would be lots of thread especially the 
worker pair but thank you for reminding me about the next one too it as well 
which obviously does go off wandering a bit more than just the straight 
passing way.Yes your answer helps a great deal so I will save it to file 
for later on.

Many thanks
Sue T

Hello Sue and everyone

For a pattern for a garment, using a minimal number of bobbins, the broad
answer is 'lots' of thread.

One can get a good idea of the amounts per passive by placing a single
thread all along the curving trail, then measuring that thread. I do this
for the entire length if it is a small Russian tape pattern, could get away
with measuring a quarter of the design if it is large, multiply by 4 for
the length per passive bobbin.
Allow more thread on the passive edge pairs for the extra twist, if using
CTCT at the edges, and especially for the passive pair that will depart
with the weaver to do any fillings, and though it seems a small amount
allow for the tethers on all bobbins as well!
Hope this helps.
Bev in Shirley BC, near Sooke on beautiful Vancouver Island, west coast of
Canada

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[lace] One of my bobbins

2014-08-13 Thread Sue
I was recently given quite a few midlands bobbins by a lace maker who had
stopped making lace and there are quite an assortment.   Plenty of different
woods and some which seem to be quite a good quality plastic but one stands
out as different.   It is white and has the wire twisted down the shank and is
a bit heavier than the rest.   I am expecting it to be bone because of that
but there dont seem to be any flecks in it at all.Some had been gifted to
the lady by their previous owner who had retired before that.
Normally I just have the bobbins I have bought or have been bought but end up
using certain ones that work best for me in that they are nice to handle and
hold sufficient thread for whatever pattern I decide to make.  Is there
somewhere where I can look at images of bone bobbins.   It is just plain apart
from the wire twisted through it, not like one I just saw on ebay.  I am not
concerned with worth, buying or selling, but interested to understand what it
is that I have.
Many thanks
Sue T
Dorset

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Re: [lace] Michigan license plate

2014-08-12 Thread Sue Babbs
In case anyone thinks I am either that wealthy or that daft, I would like 
you to know that personalized number plates are much cheaper here in 
America.  I can't recall for sure, but think I paid around around an extra 
$40 or so when we bought my VW Rabbit seven years ago.  And who can resist 
having LTL GREY as their number plate when the make of the car is Rabbit?!



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Re: [lace] Michigan license plate

2014-08-11 Thread Sue Babbs
Not mine, which is an Illinois car -  silver VW Rabbit, plates LTL Grey (and 
I carry the appropriate story book Little Grey Rabbit makes lace



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Re: [lace] iPhone Case Antique Lace iPhone 5S Case by JoyMerrymanStore

2014-08-06 Thread Sue Duckles
Shame it won't fit my phone Clay!!! It's Gorgeous!!!

Sue in UK
On 5 Aug 2014, at 23:56, Clay Blackwell wrote:

 Just discovered this lovely iPhone case with pretty lace design!   Hope the
link will work...  It looks awfully long.

 Clay


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Re: [lace] a tiny lace dress...

2014-08-01 Thread Sue
What a sad but beautiful task to have undertaken and a beautiful way to lay 
this child to rest.
Condolences to all the family who must feel devastated at the moment. 
When my father died in 2003 I made all the members of my family a small 
bobbin lace star and most still exist and are put up on the christmas tree 
each year, so they are part of the family Christmases which include 
remembering him especially at this time.  maybe you can do something like 
that for you all, the butterfly sounds lovely and can help ease the sadness 
over time.
Be gentle with yourself but something will spur you on into the next piece 
of lace.

Sue T
Dorset UK

I have mainly lurked for a while, but do read each and every email. Just
have not had heart to write much lately.
But I did want to share what was recently made lace wise... I knit a
baby christening dress in pink with white roses. It had a beautiful
winding leaf pattern down the front with lace vines. Around the neck
were small leaves that had some white roses on it. It was a sad labor of
love, as my Granddaughter Rayne Ann was born Monday 7/28/14 and passed
away 44 minutes later. Today we buried her in the dress.
I had wanted to make her a white silk dress with some hand made lace,
but just did not have the time to do that. Now she is wrapped in knit
lace for eternity, something made with love.
We had found out a little over a month ago she would not make it much
past birth due to a defect in her heart, a hernia that allowed her
stomach, liver, and intestines in chest. That in turn kept her lungs
from developing as only one had room and that was not developed enough
to sustain life. When my Son and Daughter in law chose to allow her to
pass peacefully I knew that a dress would be made by me for her to wear.
My son chose the yarn the day we got the bad news and I worked on it,
only finishing the day before she was born.

Tonight, I am hoping to work on some lace if the motivation ever comes
back.
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[lace] Need a leaf for my poppy

2014-07-23 Thread Sue
Or so I keep being told, or rather asked when people see my new poppy.   I
made two petals using Janices’ pattern (thank you Janice) but drew a new
slightly bigger one to replicate some poppies growing in my garden at the
moment (I took one gently apart and drew round the petals to get an idea of
shape and size.  I drew the black lines on, as in the original idea but also
included a lovely little gold button which looks amazing and I am very pleased
with it. I have taped it into a small stem which I have attached to a brooch
pin.  This suits me better than the way I finished off the original one in
2007 and this one has definitely seen better days but has done a lovely job.
I have several different flower books but I cant see any leaf patterns that I
have been shown are the right ones for a poppy, so for now am not doing
anything.   Has anyone else made a leaf to go on theirs and if so what shape
leaf did you use please?I could make one with the ordinary poppy petal
shape, but the images show almost a holly leaf shape.   I am using Coton Perle
8 so its not fine threads.
Happy Lace making, I am currently being very good and making one other flower
to go with two that I made several years ago in finer threads and various
colours to fit into an old clock dome, so will finally complete one of my long
term UFO’s.  I promised myself I would at last before I get swept up into
lots of other second half of the year items.
Sue T
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Re: [lace] Noelene's Poems - Inspired by Lace

2014-07-22 Thread Sue Babbs
For a while, I have been noticing that all Arachne emails from AOL addresses 
go into my junk box - not just Jeri's.


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Re: [lace] Lace 21 Waddesdon Manor

2014-07-21 Thread Sue Harvey
I was one of the Norfolk Lacemakers that made the chandelier, it was a group 
effort but some contributed more than others in the assembly.

Sue M Harvey
Norfolk UK


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Re: [lace] Blood spot

2014-07-16 Thread Sue
Hi Alex, it was a small drop of blood and the vanish didn't seem to help at 
all, I didn't use salt as I can never remember which way to do it and have 
set stains in, in the past this way which i didn't want to do again.  I used 
the neat liquid I normally use in my washing machine, rubbed it into the 
stain with my finger tip and it came out.   It then went into the machine 
with a normal load and is sparkly bright clean now, thank you.

Sue T

Hi Arachnids

I’m a little late replying and am surprised that on one mentioned blood
stains should first be soaked in salt water, 1 teaspoon to 1 pint, 
preferably

immediately, but even if it has dried it helps to soften the stain.

Hope it has all come out.

Alex

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Re: [lace] Follow up on stains email (2)

2014-07-12 Thread Sue
I did have to laugh about the chocolate as I could see it in my head. 
sorry, really not laughing loudly,, well actually I did.


But on the personal front I have a condition called Sjogrens Syndrome and it 
means I dont have any natural saliva to use.   I use water, pastilles and 
artificial saliva sprays to help but that wont be of use to remove blood 
stains off my blouse, so I think I need to make some sort of paste with 
washing liquids of one sort or another.
Thank you for the suggestions folks and I am sure this will be of use for 
someone out there.   (Non chocolate eating at the time:-)  )


Have fun at the conference all of you.
Sue

But definitely NOT after eating chocolate   been
there, done that, not a happy chap..  :-(

Cheers,
Shirley T.  -  almost in the swing of OIDFA now.

On second thoughts it might not be that simple because the blood has 
dried,
but worth a go. It definitely works for fresh blood, but must be the 
saliva of

the same person as the blood.

Jean Nathan in Poole, Dorset, UK


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Re: [lace] Follow up on stains email (2)

2014-07-12 Thread Sue
I tried the vanish granuals and it didn't shift, so I used my normal clothes 
washing liquid neat on the stain.  I worked it with my finger tip and it 
went.  Blouse now washed in the machine and I will take it out to dry in a 
few minutes.

Sue

Try hydrogen peroxide first. I've seen it recommended in books.
Cynthia


On Jul 12, 2014, at 2:45 AM, Sue wrote:

I did have to laugh about the chocolate as I could see it in my head. 
sorry, really not laughing loudly,, well actually I did.


But on the personal front I have a condition called Sjogrens Syndrome and 
it means I dont have any natural saliva to use.   I use water, pastilles 
and artificial saliva sprays to help but that wont be of use to remove 
blood stains off my blouse, so I think I need to make some sort of paste 
with washing liquids of one sort or another.
Thank you for the suggestions folks and I am sure this will be of use for 
someone out there.   (Non chocolate eating at the time:-)  )


Have fun at the conference all of you.
Sue

   But definitely NOT after eating chocolate   been
there, done that, not a happy chap..  :-(

Cheers,
Shirley T.  -  almost in the swing of OIDFA now.

On second thoughts it might not be that simple because the blood has 
dried,
but worth a go. It definitely works for fresh blood, but must be the 
saliva of

the same person as the blood.

Jean Nathan in Poole, Dorset, UK


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[lace] Follow up on stains email

2014-07-11 Thread Sue
Thank you to several people who advised me of ways to remove the oil stains
off of the carpet, which is now clean and looking good.

Since then I had some dental work and have since found a small blood spot on
the shoulder of a blue cotton blouse, so would things like vanish rubbed in
remove it now it has dried on?

Now for the lace content, I am going to be working on some bridal lace (ring
pillow, garter, that kind of thing) in the coming year for two brides with an
italian connection so I am wondering if there is anything special that might
give it that little italian edge.   I have no idea about Italian lace so any
ideas would be helpful.
I have experience of Torchon Lace, Beds, Bucks, tape/braid lace and a tiny bit
of Milanese but not much else.
Sue T
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[lace-chat] Removing stains

2014-07-05 Thread Sue
This has nothing to do with lace, but we need to find a way to remove black
oil stains from beige carpet.   It is dry and on the back of the car tailgate.
The most sensible option to leave it looking as good as we can please, if
anyone has managed to achieve this.
Thank you for any one who can spare the time.
Sue T
Dorset UK

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[lace] Care of lace

2014-06-28 Thread Sue
Hi Spiders
Over the last 5 years I have made 3 specific pieces of bridal lace waiting for
the first of the family brides to need them and then the first one decided
they would get married on their holidays, something I only heard about 8 days
before the whole family left the country for the holiday and wedding combined.
In that time I was able to run the silver elastic into the garter, sew a
flower on and box and send ,everything was here just to go, thankfully.  The
handkerchief edge I made and Liz In Australia challenged me to get it sew up
while she was away a couple of years ago so I had accepted that challenge and
got on with that so that was also ready on time, thank you Liz  and the
horseshoe lace was also already made but I had struggled to get the right
shape of acetate.   I had to tackle that which I finally got to work ok, so
with a very tight deadline I did get it all there on time and my sister packed
it all away in her hand luggage to make sure it was safe.  Her initial
feedback when she received it was very pleasing.  Her subject line was Oh Wow,
so I was happy.   Hopefully the bride was also pleased with it. The horseshoe
and hanky are hers to keep and I need to find the information about how to
turn it into a baby bonnet for her whenever she decides to have a family but
not immediately.  When the garter comes back to me I need to remove the
elastic, wash it carefully and pack it away again into the acid free tissue
paper waiting for the next wedding.
Because one branch of my family all live in Canada I have decided to design
and make some lace just for them, to save the garter going backwards and
forwards over the atlantic with the possibility of delays or loss and would
like some information please to tell my sister the best way to preserve and
pack the lace items for safe keeping in their changeable weather.  At the
moment it is shorts and tee shirt weather and from October to April at least
it is Minus figures and snow for weeks on end.   I know we have Arachnids in
every part of the world and hope that someone with the experience of that kind
of climate would be kind enough to give me some ideas.   I am making and
packing in tissue and minimal packaging for her to take back home in her
suitcase and then buy packaging and store in the best possible way until
needed.   One item is for multiple use so will need to give her the washing
and packing instructions for the garter but the other items I make need to be
kept presentable for individual use and gifting to the brides on their day.
My great nieces and nephews are aged from 7 - 17 at the moment so the lace
wont be made all at once but over the years in my time, so will need to be
stored for the future.  I want to make them while I am able and we never know
when we will have to stop, for health reasons.
Many thanks for reading and to those who might help.
Sue T
Dorset UK

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Re: [lace] Lacemaking on BBC

2014-06-28 Thread Sue
Thank you Christine, looking forward to seeing that, will need to keep my 
eyes open for it.  i agree it would be really good to see a little more of 
the lace making than in some programs.

Sue T
Dorset UK


Yesterday I was filmed by the BBC making lace, for an episode of Celebrity 
Antiques Road Trip. Presenters James Braxton and Lesley Joseph were looking 
around Waddesdon Manor, and they were also shown some antique lace. They 
then watched me working, and Lesley had a go! She grasped it very quickly 
and worked a couple of rows. It was great fun and hopefully the BBC will 
include more footage than the few seconds of Lacemaking they showed on 
Country file earlier this month!

The program is due to be broadcast next spring.
Christine Lardner (Oxford UK)

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Re: [lace] Wedding Hanky to Baby Bonnet

2014-06-28 Thread Sue
Thank you Jeri, that is great information and I am off to enjoy hunting and 
looking.  I think I also need to begin this folder you spoke about, as bits 
of files here and there over the years are not easy to find when wanted. 
Mind you space at home is pretty tight as well. Need to begin today.

Thank you for that.
Sue T
Dorset UK

Anyone interested in making a Wedding Hanky into a Baby Bonnet (or Bonnet
to Hanky) will find our previous discussions on this subject at

http://www.mail-archive.com/lace@arachne.com/index.html

Just put - Wedding Hanky to Baby Bonnet Instructions - in the Search  box.

If you leave off the word Instructions, you will get many more posts to
enjoy, and perhaps some more poems to go with the gifts you are making. 
You

really will want to give with a poem, to make it a more unique  gift.

Jeri Ames in Maine USA
Lace and Embroidery Resource Center

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[lace] Re: [bobbinlace] Bobbin Lace Items for Sale From Sharon Horen in Boston, MA

2014-06-18 Thread Sue Babbs
Silly me – I stripped off Sharon’s email address (as I normally would to
protect privacy) but of course people want it:

sdan...@gmail.com

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[lace] Commemorative Tatting Shuttle

2014-06-15 Thread Sue Duckles
I've received the shuttle from Roseground in memory of those who lost their
lives in WW1

As I never seem to be able to get Flickr to work... I've posted the pic on my
blog!  here: My Tatty Blog http://pigminitatty.blogspot.co.uk/

Sue in East Yorkshire where it's cloudy today!!
Sue in UK

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[lace] Tatting Shuttles

2014-06-11 Thread Sue Duckles
Hi All

I've just learned that Roseground here in the UK have produced a commemorative
shuttle for WW1 - blue shuttle with a poppy , clouds and what looks like three
little birds! in flight.   £2.75 +pp

I've ordered one!!!  I'll let you all know when it arrives!! LOL

Sue in East Yorkshire where it's sunny at the moment!!
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Re: [lace] Lace patterns

2014-06-08 Thread Sue Duckles
This must be true, it's virtually one of the first things Maureen teaches us!!  
Learn the basic stitches, a basic bookmark, now learn to 'draft'!!!   And most 
of us do NOT get out of it LOL

Sue (also in East Yorkshire)
On 7 Jun 2014, at 10:02, Maureen wrote:

 HI
 
 I agree Jacquie, it is simple to copy these patterns from the pictures in
 the book.   
 
 Maureen
 E Yorks UK (where it is currently raining)

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[lace] Boxwood

2014-06-02 Thread Sue
Countryfile was on the british television yesterday evening while I was busy
but as I usually watch this weekly I had set it to record.   Dinner over I
settled down and set the recording away and suddenly remembered the mention of
the bobbin lace group in connection with the box wood.  So I gave a little
less attention to the cardigan I was sewing up and a bit more to the
television, luckily I had got it already pinned properly so didn’t make a
mess of sewing it up.  Once I saw the man with the lathe working I kept my
eyes glued to the screen which was lucky as the lace pillows came next and had
I been looking down I would have missed them, it was brief but nice and clear
if you were watching at that moment.
We did get a good shot from behind one lace maker, so could see her work on
the pillow, bobbins and threads.   Nice to see lace on the television, even if
only a tiny snippet.
Sue T
Dorset UK

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Re: [lace] lace style sheet, was lace proof readers

2014-05-20 Thread Sue Babbs
Oh not just a picture of a lace maker made in knitted lace  - rather a 3-D 
knitted robot making lace :-)





Sue

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Re: [lace] Lacemaking on Countryfile (hopefully)

2014-05-17 Thread Sue Harvey
Put that in my diary to watch, thanks for the information.
Sue M  Harvey
Norfolk
U.K.

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Re: [lace] Lacemaking on Countryfile (hopefully)

2014-05-16 Thread Sue

Looking forward to seeing that Christine.
Sue T
Dorset UK

Yesterday, I spent a very exciting day with 2 friends, Eileen and Jan, being
filmed making lace for Countryfile. We are members of Isis lacemakers, and
were asked at very short notice by The Lace Society if we could attend. Of
course, any other plans (such as work) for that day were cancelled! It was a
lovely sunny day and we were given just a few minutes to set up a display on 
a

picnic table! We were then filmed making lace. We were not interviewed on
camera, but got to meet the lovely John Craven, and also spotted Ellie
Harrison, who I've always thought a pretty girl; believe me, in the flesh 
she

is quite a beauty.
We were part of a feature on boxwood and its uses, and had been asked to 
bring
along boxwood bobbins. Also featured were a wood turner using a bow lathe, 
and

musicians playing boxwood wind instruments.
The BBC crew were so nice, everything was so calm and laid back.
So, look out for Countryfile on 1st June BBC1. As it usually pulls in an
audience of around 6 million, we could be seen by a lot of people (potential
lacemakers??). Hopefully there will be more than a fleeting glance, but even
if we end up on the cutting room floor we had a great time!
Christine Lardner (Oxford UK)

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Re: [lace] Fan sticks

2014-05-13 Thread Sue Harvey
Is it named after the nurse Jenny Lind? We had a children's hospital of that 
name in Norwich the nearest city to where I live and my daughter had an 
operation there at 18 months old.
Sue M Harvey
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Re: [lace] lace photos

2014-05-09 Thread Sue
You need to capture the whole link, including the third line to paste into 
the bar.

Sue

Me too!  I really enjoyed the other link to the lace photos, Binche and
Needlelace.  Thank you Lorelei

Catherine Barley

Subject: Re: [lace] lace photos

I couldn't open this it said invalid request

Maureen
E Yorks

On 8 May 2014, at 21:44, Lorelei Halley

What to do with all those strips:
https://scontent-a-dfw.xx.fbcdn.net/hphotos-frc1/t1.0-9/10245462_628921067198
190_5297656344381281822_n.jpg

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Re: [lace] de-fuzzing lace in progress?

2014-05-07 Thread Sue
I was always happy to work with my cats about and just keep my lace as clean 
as possible.   One of them is shown on my website in his favourite position 
laying along the arm of my chair and sometimes just holding the ends of my 
spangles down on the pillow.  He never harmed anything and just a tough on 
his paw was enough to make him move it slightly further away if I felt it 
was necessary.  He was a lovely friend and occasionally made sure I put the 
lace aside so we could both have some cuddle time.   He is much missed but 
wont be replaced but I enjoyed my lacemaking then and I still do now and 
have managed to achieve both, having my lace hobby and the animals while 
they lived as well.
Mind you I have never managed to achieve any of the incredible laced I have 
seen from both Clay and Carol.

Sue T

If someone asked me to choose between my lace and my four-legged companions, 
I'd have a monumental crisis!


So far, I have chosen to make lace for my own pleasure and the expansion of 
my knowledge of lacemaking.  So if a stray hair shows up that cannot be 
removed, I have a reminder of a dear pet who may no longer be with me.
Currently, I have a cat who loves high places, and there is no place in my 
lace room that appeals to him.  However, my small dog insists that I pull up 
another chair so he can sit/lie beside me while I work.

My life would be very diminished without them!
Clay


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Dear Spiders,
I am S glad I don't have a cat  or any other pets that might shed 
hairs onto my lace! I once had a warm, cosy and fluffy angora 
cardigan, which I wore a lot, until I realised it left hairs on lace and 
crochet, so it went very abruptly into the charity shop!The thought of 
having either hairs left in the lace or, even worse, having to remove 
hairs with tweezers fills me with horror. I do have guinea pigs - but 
they don't go anywhere near the lace.

Carol - in North Norfolk UK

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Re: [lace] Re: Lace with and without an end use

2014-05-05 Thread Sue
I did work some small samples of a type of piece, especially the complex 
bucks point which is in my folder, before I went on to make a full piece but 
as my teacher always gave me a corner of a pattern which I copied and using 
the computer got a square for beds hanky or square edging for photo frame 
(or could have been a hanky) that is what I made.   She occasionally showed 
us a piece of her lace which might have been withof, Duchess or other 
beautiful dolphins, it seemed appropriate looking at full pieces as a piece 
of art or working item.
I have been reading your two process vs product and have been amazed and 
fascinated that you never finish.  Will have to train my brain to accept 
that idea and maybe I will get to try some of the other beautiful types of 
lace pieces that appeal to me.

Thank you ladies.
Sue T
Dorset UK


This is the process vs. product argument again.  I'm an unrepentant

process-oriented person.  I have no particular use for lace.  I don't wear
Robin P.
Los Angeles, California, USA
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Ditto - I also love the process and couldn't care less about what happens to
the lace but I do finish most pieces.  It is amazing how these pieces get
used sometime or other.  Sometimes someone starts a crazy quilt and then I
can make a contribution.  I suffer from incurable experimentation -
different threads, different textures etc etc!
Jeanette Fischer, Western Cape, South Africa.

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Re: [lace] de-fuzzing lace in progress?

2014-05-05 Thread Sue Duckles
IMHO cats are selective on the hair shedding front white lace or clothing
- dark hairs, dark lace or clothing you guessed it white hairs!!!  And
multicoloured ones for everywhere else!!! LOL  We have one dark tortie cat,
one light tiger striped cat and a black and white one!!!

I use tiny tweezers.

Sue in East Yorkshire, where it's sunny today!!
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 I have both a light and a dark cat, so no matter what color I'm working on,
I
 can see cat hair.

 Fingers and/or tweezers are the main source of removal.
 Sometimes I use masking tape to remove hairs from the pillow, to keep them
out
 of the lace.

 The fingers/tweezers made need to be applied several times, even
 after the lace has been completed and used.  When the light catches the
lace
 'just so', I find more cat hair.  This will continue to happen until some
time
 after the cats are gone.  Their hair gets into everything and likes to
stick
 to fabrics.

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Re: [lace] Milanese books - correction

2014-05-04 Thread Sue
Talking about coincidences, I used to live in the town for the first 29 
years of my life but dont remember ever seeing the lace section in the 
museum until years after I had moved away and was visiting my parents, just 
after I started making lace, probably about 2001.  I have since visited 
several times and bought some of their patterns for myself and friends.   I 
decided to make a clock face in bucks point lace (using Alex Stillwells 
pattern) which keeps begging me to do it.  It was to be a gift to my sister 
who left the town 20 years ago to live in Canada.   Her son makes fabulous 
wood items so we got our collective thoughts together via the internet and 
he is making the body of the clock plus he bought the face when he saw 
something he loved, while I get on with making the lace.
When i received the measurements I realised that the piece in question 
wouldbe too big to fit, so reduced it and Alex kindly checked it and told me 
what thread would work on the new size.  Since then I found a piece of lace 
made by me which was made using one of the patterns redrawn from an old 
piece of lace and sold by the museum to raise money to aid the preservation 
of the Lace Dealers Pattern Book.  Symbols within the lace which I made 
because I just loved the pattern are just so right for my sister, and is a 
much better fit for the clock as is, so she is getting that but I still Must 
now make this other lace but can now return to the proper size and make it 
just for Me:-)
I have also bought the introduction to Milanese lace book you mentioned 
which is very good and I have plans to improve my skills in this very 
beautiful lace.
Now if any of you know how to make each day last twice as long or me be able 
to speed up more than my current speeds I would be very grateful.  There is 
so much beautiful lace out there I must make.
I think I might have to abandon making lace for others in the future and 
just keep working on all these forms of lace for the love it them rather 
than making something with an end use and an end user.

Sue T
Dorset UK

Dear All

As Jill noted, the latest copy of Lace has arrived - and I see that
the introduction book is reprinting.  Worth the wait if you are new to
Milanese, or just want the basics (and a bit more) in a convenient form
leonard...@yahoo.com - back from Woking lace day, to which Veronica Main had
brought some goodies from Luton Museum for us to admire - by chance 
including

the original unit pricking I had used for the length of Bucks on which I was
working!

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Re: [lace] adivice on format please. Test

2014-05-04 Thread Sue Duckles
Looks fine to me Brian!!

Sue in East Yorkshire where we've been demonstrating lace all day!!

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Re: [lace] Lace with and without an end use

2014-05-04 Thread Sue
When you consider the hours spent on any project they have to go to someone 
who will love and appreciate them, or find a home on our walls, or whatever. 
Those items that have been sitting in my box or in a folder are a bit sad 
and not so alive.
I have got lots of books and patterns and every time I look through them I 
have a list longer than my arms of items I would love to make but when made 
where would they go.  I have run out of wall space.
I am also from a time when I make what I need and need what I make or a gift 
for someone special.  Only occasionally have I given someone something and 
seen the blank look on their face.  They have no concept of the time and 
skills used, the craft or the value of this hand made gift, so I am more 
careful these days.

Sue T
Dorset Uk where we have had a bright day, living near the coast means its 
always a bit cooler than I would like but always grateful for the sunshine.



Sue brought up an interesting topic.  Making lace with an end use and a
recipient, or making lace for the love of it.  Me, I find that I like making
things with a use in mind, and I tend to choose those projects.
Handkerchief edgings, bookmarks, applique for a T shirt, a decoration for a
particular item of clothing is what draws me.  But I know of others who just
like to make lace, and perhaps no actual contemplated use is necessary.
What kind of a lace maker are you?  And do you have any idea why?  Me?  I
think it's because I am, at heart, a German peasant, who needs things to be
useful.  What about you?

Lyn from Lancaster, Pennsylvania, USA, where it's a bit to chilly and cloudy
to  be a beautiful spring day, but it's definitely spring.

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Re: [lace] TV Interview on Lace -NCTV Newington CT

2014-04-23 Thread Sue
Brilliant, I loved the piece and what a nice change to see something given 
30 minutes rather than 5 or so which is definitely not enough.He seemed 
completely out of his depth for just a few minutes but you got him right in 
to it and his responses were pretty good.  I went into the lace making 
without any interest in its history 12 years ago, but of course it doesn't 
take long to find they are all interlinked but I did feel you linked the old 
and the modern so well.
Certainly we have all noticed that over the last couple of years fashion has 
included lace in many ways again.

Sue T
Dorset UK


Hi all,

Good news to share.  I landed an interview on our local TV station to talk
about Lace - a 30 minute interview.   The anticipation was getting to me, I
had to send them questions - they wanted five, I sent 15 (thanks to help
from lace friends); they wanted five pictures; I sent them 70.

I had been giving my talk Lace is Everywhere so much of what I would
speak about was done - though I did more.

Please take a moment to watch the show  the lace interview begins at
about 32.15 into the clip.  I hope we can get the numbers on the hits of
'views' as I would like to begin to tape more shows for our lace community.
Patty

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Re: [lace] Footside on left

2014-04-23 Thread Sue Harvey
I remember having a discussion about this when I first started making lace and 
someone suggested that somebody simply put the pricking on the pillow upside 
down because they weren't all nicely marked as they are now? 
Sue M Harvey
Norfolk UK 

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Re: [lace] lace maker photos

2014-04-20 Thread Sue Harvey
Thank you for those, I now know that a picture on my work room wall that I 
bought at a car boot sale a few years ago is by Miles Birket Foster it's the 
one with woman and child outside the cottage, I had tried to find out who 
painted it to no avail. 
Sue M Harvey
Norfolk UK 

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Re: [lace] Care of fabrics - 1940s style

2014-04-09 Thread Sue Duckles
All this reminds me of a t-shirt belonging to my son the label has full 
washing instructions followed by 'or give it to your Mum'!!

Sue in East Yorkshire

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Re: [lace-chat] Lacefairy website

2014-04-08 Thread Sue Duckles
Yes Ann.  Unfortunately it has, due to circumstances beyond either Jeri or 
Lori's control.

Sue in UK
On 8 Apr 2014, at 09:47, Ann McClean wrote:

 Has Lori's Lacefairy website gone down as I can no longer find it.
 
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Re: [lace] looking for pattern

2014-04-02 Thread Sue Babbs
Lace in Miniature by Ann Collier is a book of patterns for dressing dolls. 
At a quick glance I didn't see either angels or butterflies in it, but I am 
tired after two days of stitching with Jan Beanery and Jean Littlejohn (not 
making lace though)





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Re: [lace] Kniplebrevet

2014-03-31 Thread Sue Babbs
The spelling is slightly different from what you typed which may have 
prevented you finding it yourself.


http://www.knipling-i-danmark.dk/?Kniplebrevet


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I am interested in finding the Danish website for Kniplebrevat.  Does
anyone know the address?
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Re: [lace] Imagine......Lace at Waddesdon

2014-03-28 Thread Sue Harvey
Hi Christine
Norfolk Lacemakers are also displaying a group piece of lace at Waddesdon it's 
a chandelier set on a mirror to reflect back the lace from all angles, did you 
see it? I too am going to visit the exhibition as soon as I can get a free 
weekend.

Sue Harvey
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Re: [lace] Help, Please!

2014-03-26 Thread Sue
To help all in the future I  found one in the Modern Lace designs book by 
Veronica Sorenson.  It is a free standing model but might lend itself to 
reduction or adaption if needed.


Sue T
Dorset UK

I have actually seen a bobbin lace pattern for a lighthouse, but cannot
remember where or when.
Possibly in a German publication or pattern.
However, if you search for lace light house, some pictures of crocheted ones
come up, and you may be able to convert these simple designs to a lace
pattern in Torchon.
Agnes Boddington - Elloughton UK

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[lace-chat] daffodils are blooming!

2014-03-22 Thread Sue Babbs

Treacle is close to molasses, but I'm not sure if it's the same!

Daffodils are blooming - I've just been out to look, and our snowdrops are 
barely above ground, and certainly nowhere near flowering : (





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Liz in sunny, breezy Missouri USA where the daffodils are blooming.  Yay!

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Re: [lace-chat] daffodils are blooming!

2014-03-22 Thread Sue Babbs
The snowdrops are in a west facing bed.  There is a still a good foot of 
snow on the north facing flower beds





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Re: [lace] Needlelace Book.

2014-03-12 Thread Sue Duckles
I heard this from Maureen too...  and for those who want a link

Go to:

www.woldslacemakers.co.uk   and I've put a link up to her site on the Stop 
Press section!!

The website mentioned here is our local group!!

Sue in a sunny East Yorkshire!

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Re: [lace] altar cloth doubled thread question

2014-03-11 Thread Sue Babbs
Is it just the gimp you are doubling, or the main thread as well?  I got 
confused!


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[lace] beginners bookmark

2014-03-07 Thread Sue
Hi spiders,
I am teaching my next door neighbour to make bobbin lace, she has had just a
few lessons only so far and progressing quite well.   I am starting her off
working the christine springett spider next week for her grandson and am not
sure if she wants to do the same but different colours for her slightly
younger granddaughter.   is there another simple pattern that the girls
naturally gravitate to, maybe just a similar simple shape that can be done in
cloth stitch and colour.   I have to be away for two of our usually meet up
afternoons after next week so hopefully something she can just work on her
own.   I would like to be able to offer her a choice if there is one she is
capable of.
So far we have worked on the usual cloth stitch starter piece in very thick
thread then another one with finer thread and a variety of ways hs, cl st, and
others with twists in, and now on a grid pattern, working half stitch ground
and then whole stitch ground, back to hs stitch ground.  I could set her up
with the second piece and another set of bobbins so they are both up and
working on the pillows before I leave her to it, so I want something just
rhythmical cloth stitch really.
Any ideas please?

Sue T
Dorset UK

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Re: [lace] Cotton

2014-03-03 Thread Sue
I used this thread several years ago when I made an Alex Stillwell piece out 
of her Geometric book, looked a bit like tipis to me around the square hanky 
frame I made.   The pattern was bucks point, so quite fine and in the early 
part of the pattern i did have one or two problems with it pulling apart, 
about the S or Z twist I think, or maybe at the beginning of the spool. 
Once it had happened twice I was fairly careful with it and the piece worked 
up nicely and after a hefty push from Elizabeth in Australia ;-) I actually 
got it finished off and around the edge of my hanky.

Have fun Ann.
Sue T
Dorset UK


Whilst I haven't seen that brand of 60/2 Egyptian cotton I'm pretty sure it 
will be fairly fine, and being 2 ply will work up into a soft lace which 
drapes well, so suitable for clothing trim.  Point ground, fine torchon, 
Bedforshire - whatever your personal preference.


Brenda

On 3 Mar 2014, at 11:39, ann.humphreys wrote:


Isis 60/2 Egyptisch Katoen. What lace would it be suitable for please.


Brenda in Allhallows
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[lace] UK Tatters.

2014-02-27 Thread Sue Duckles
Hi Fellow Lacers (and Tatters)

I've just heard that Roseground in the UK have a large shipment of Tatting
supplies, including the
new Lizbeth Twizl thread in size 20!!  I think these are the same price as all
the other Lizbeth threads!  Had to share the information as there aren't many
places here in the UK that you can get supplies for tattilng!!

 Also they have now a selection of items for tatting onto - these having an
eyelet to tat into

Cotton Embroidered 9.5ins sq. cotton Handkerchiefs:£4.75

4ins round centre with eyelets for tatting --£2.75

6 ins as above   --£3.85

oval mats are 9.25ins x  6ins, also the small scallop shape are 9,75ins x
6ins, both are in cotton price £4.00

I'm not anything to do with them just a VERY satisfied customer!! Can't
wait for Harrogate Rally now!!!

Sue in a damp East yorkshire
My Tatty Blog http://pigminitatty.blogspot.co.uk/

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[lace-chat] UK Tatters

2014-02-27 Thread Sue Duckles
Hi Fellow Lacers (and Tatters)

I've just heard that Roseground in the UK have a large shipment of Tatting
supplies, including the
new Lizbeth Twizl thread in size 20!!  I think these are the same price as
all
the other Lizbeth threads!  Had to share the information as there aren't many
places here in the UK that you can get supplies for tattilng!!

Also they have now a selection of items for tatting onto - these having an
eyelet to tat into

Cotton Embroidered 9.5ins sq. cotton Handkerchiefs:£4.75

4ins round centre with eyelets for tatting --£2.75

6 ins as above   --£3.85

oval mats are 9.25ins x  6ins, also the small scallop shape are 9,75ins x
6ins, both are in cotton price £4.00

I'm not anything to do with them just a VERY satisfied customer!! Can't
wait for Harrogate Rally now!!!

Sue in a damp East yorkshire
My Tatty Blog http://pigminitatty.blogspot.co.uk/

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Re: [lace] Jo Firth UK

2014-02-20 Thread Sue Duckles
Have replied to you offline Alison.

Sue in East Yorkshire
On 20 Feb 2014, at 10:09, Gray, Alison J wrote:

 Hi

 Does anyone have an email address for Jo Firth [UK supplier]?  I couldn't
find
 anything on her website.

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Re: [lace] Re: Stunned

2014-02-13 Thread Sue
Some years ago my DH used one of my early pieces of Torchon Lace taken from 
Elizabeth Wades book to frame around a photo of my parents at their wedding 
which hung on her wall for some years afterwards.  Last year she was very 
ill and we feared for her survival, but she is made of stronger stuff than 
we thought, :-) and then it was decided her independent life was over and 
she was prepared to go into a care home.   Three of my siblings dismantled 
her home, leaving basic essentials to go into the home with her,  threw away 
masses of stuff, normal clutter, but also this particular photograph 
including my lace.   We didn't find out until she was settled into her room 
and we were able to visit.  She had none of her items which made her room 
home, except her clock which was a wedding gift.  Eventually some of us have 
restored some of her photos and other little pleasures of life but of course 
the lace is lost.  I am going to take her a new piece that has been hanging 
on our wall for several years to replace it, but putting a label on the back 
tell them to return to me when she is finished with it.  I was 
disappointed with my sisters for not returning it to me first.

Sue T
Dorset UK

Jane wrote
Thank you for all the comments.
Jean, thank you for telling me about Bill Blake. I'm so glad he
enjoyed this pattern. It's difficult to tell from the photo but the
lace looks beautifully made. I wondered if it was someone clearing
his estate and it seems very sad to think the work hasn't gone to
members of the family to be treasured, but as Sue said, better that
the lace should go to someone who wants it rather than it be thrown
away.

Thank you for all the conversation, its been interesting and helpful.
Its great to have a community like arachne to 'chat' with.

Best wishes,
Jane 


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Re: [lace] a name

2014-02-13 Thread Sue Babbs

Are you thinking of Bjarne Drews?

http://www.my-drewscostumes.dk/




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Subject: [lace] a name

There is a guy who makes replicas of historic costume, with his own hand
embroidery and bobbin lace added. I just can't remember the name (a senior
moment). Help!  Brian something?? He has a website, and I can't even find my
link.

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Re: [lace] Stunned

2014-02-12 Thread Sue Babbs
My guess is that the seller of the lace has no idea of the value of the 
pieces.  And I don't think Jane should feel too upset about the pieces being 
sold from her patterns.  From what Jean Leader says they weren't made to be 
sold for profit (or loss, as in this case).


We have all made pieces of lace from patterns in books and magazines, and if 
no-one wants to keep what I have made,  I would rather they were sold when I 
die, than put in the trash.



Sue

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Re: [lace] 1000th post on LaceNews

2014-02-05 Thread Sue Babbs
We certainly do have to thank you, Laurie. You put such a  lot of time and 
effort into all of this - which is much appreciated


Sue  Babbs

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Re: [lace] thread question

2014-02-02 Thread Sue Babbs
Is it Au ver a Soie rather than Du ver a soie ? 


http://www.silk-thread.com/our-silk-threads#pure-soie

If so that is listed under the 'a' section in silks in Brenda's book.



Bergere de France is a brand, and  cotons nature platre is listed here:

http://www.bergeredefrance.com/cotons-nature-platre.html

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Re: [lace] oh no

2014-01-31 Thread Sue Babbs
1.safety heels   


I suspect it's a typo and she meant safety pins


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Re: [lace] Thread size and type

2014-01-30 Thread Sue
And something else I just did, check the size the garment will take.  Guess 
what neither one I had in mind will take the size of lace, :-(  So as I 
still want to make it I will need to decide on a different piece of clothing 
with the area to take it.  Its too nice to let go at this moment.

Thank you Sue
Sue T

If you are using it on a piece of clothing which will be laundered, do make
sure that whatever thread you choose is colour-fast

Sue Babbs

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[lace] Thread size and type

2014-01-29 Thread Sue
I am looking through a book of Russian Lace patterns and it mentions a thread
called Mouline DMC cotton.  It also mentions natural silk, linen and cotton
can be used of appropriate thickness. Not sure I have found the right thing In
Brendas magic book.
I feel this might be an old type thread and would be interested to hear what
threads are around now of similar thickness etc.
Any help please, gratefully received.
Sue T
Dorset UK

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Fw: [lace] Thread size and type

2014-01-29 Thread Sue
Thank you ladies, I love to learn from you all.   I want to use this on a 
piece of clothing so wonder if cotton might be a smarter plan?   although 
the dress is not cotton, so might the anchor embroidery thread work as well?
Not sure at the moment whether to to try to match or contrast colour.  When 
i took the pattern out last night I wanted to get started, but now I think I 
will need to check out the threads first.

Thank you all.
Sue T

Mouline is stranded cotton so they are possibly suggesting you use one 
strand, or more for gimps. Â Quite a few of my Russian lace books have 
stranded thread pictured and it's what we were given to work with in Moscow.


The easiest way is just to see which thread is the right size to fit x pairs 
in the braids. Â It might be finer than you think, and if it's too thick the 
plaited fillings will look clumsy.

Jacquie in Lincolnshire

Mouline means stranded cotton, so DMC stranded embroidery cotton, Anchor 
stranded embroidery, any other brand ... they are all pretty similar.

Brenda

I am looking through a book of Russian Lace patterns and it mentions a 
thread

called Mouline DMC cotton.  It also mentions natural silk, linen and cotton
can be used of appropriate thickness. Not sure I have found the right thing 
In

Brendas magic book.
I feel this might be an old type thread and would be interested to hear what
threads are around now of similar thickness etc.
Any help please, gratefully received.
Sue T
Dorset UK

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Re: [lace] Thread size and type

2014-01-29 Thread Sue Babbs
If you are using it on a piece of clothing which will be laundered, do make 
sure that whatever thread you choose is colour-fast


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[lace] Thread size required please

2014-01-29 Thread Sue Duckles
Evening Spiders


I got a gorgeous pricking for Christmas from a good friend.  It's a german 
pattern of an owl, however I can't find the thread in Brenda's book and the 
name doesn't mean anything to me

Anyone any idea what thickness MARA 200-30 is?  We think it's a Gutermann 
thread but that doesn't help.

Thanks in advance

Sue in a damp, windy East Yorkshire

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Re: [lace] Animals in lace

2014-01-22 Thread Sue Babbs
I would search the Arachne archives, as we have talked about animals in lace 
in the past, and there may be interesting information there


http://www.mail-archive.com/lace@arachne.com/

Simply putting animals in the search box there comes up with 14 pages of 
message descriptions, though not all will be of interest to this topic

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Re: [lace] Looking through

2014-01-21 Thread Sue Babbs

Sherry

Please can you tell me what issue the Binche thistle is in?

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Re: [lace] I am looking for a lacemaker

2014-01-21 Thread Sue Babbs
That is a lovely fan pattern that Carolyn used! I'd like to know where it 
came from too


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Re: [lace] I am looking for a lacemaker

2014-01-21 Thread Sue Babbs
Many thanks.  Springetts don't seem to sell fan patterns any more (or at 
least, I couldn't spot them on their site.


My recollection was that LJ Fountain took over the Springett business, and 
then closed, and that Roseground took over from them, but I'm not seeing fan 
patterns on Roseground site either, and I could have mis-remembered!! Anyone 
in England know who now stocks the Springetts' fan patterns (and in 
particular this lovely Bucks point one)?


Living in the USA now, I don't pay so much attention to English suppliers

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Re: [lace] Carolyn Hastings

2014-01-20 Thread Sue Harvey
Hi Sherry et all

I bought that fan pattern from L  J Fountain at a lace day someplace cannot 
remember where but it says on the pattern that further copies can be purchased 
from Springetts.  It is one of Bridget Cooks designs and comes in 3 parts 1 - 
the pricking, printed on red  2 -a very good working diagram and 3 -a picture 
of the work completed,  it is a very large fan, and takes 90 plus pairs

Sue M Harvey
Norfolk
U.K.


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Re: [lace] pinterest question

2014-01-19 Thread Sue Duckles
Hi All

I've just done the same thing and got back to a 'yahoo images search'.  If the
person in question has copied it from one of the 'images' pages on yahoo or
google then it probably has been 'spidered' by them and the original site
doesn't always show!

However, as I have a page with 'lacefully elegant' in the title on Pinterest,
I'll put your photo up there with your permission Sherry then it may just
propogate round the world with a link back to your site!

Sue in a damp, miserable East Yorkshire
On 19 Jan 2014, at 09:48, Jacquie Tinch wrote:

 I was looking at this last night and the link was a yahoo one, which led to
a photo album in which I couldn't even find the photo of the angels, or any
connection to Sherry's website.

 I had found the photo by doing a search in Pinterest under 'bobbin lace
angels' and the copy of Sherry's photo I found said where that person had
pinned it from.

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Re: [lace] Question about lace coasters

2014-01-16 Thread Sue Harvey
The handbag mirrors are really good, and quick and easy to make , I have made 
one each for most of my female family and friends and all have been greeted 
with thanks and I notice regularly used. And they come with a nice little 
velvet pouch to carry them.

Sue M Harvey
Norfolk
U.K.

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Re: [lace] What is the biggest and the hardest piece of lace you have eve...

2014-01-15 Thread Sue Babbs
We look forward to seeing it finished and framed at Sweet Briar this year. 



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Re: [lace] Question about lace coasters

2014-01-14 Thread Sue

Hi Shelly,
I am just about to complete two coasters just as you describe.  Not sure 
which country you are in but I am in the UK and have purchased the acrylic 
coasters from Clairs lace in Bournemouth.  I chose her as I have purchased 
them from her  direct at a lace day and when I ran out I purchased via phone 
so knew they were right for my project.  They are not huge and only take a 
smallish piece of lace, could measure mine if it would help.

again just a satisfied customer.
These make a nice useful object, a lovely way to show lace and nice for 
gifts.  I have gifted several of these in the last couple of years.

Sue T
Dorset UK


Hello spiders! I do hope everyone has survived the cold weather and
snows we have had in the US and elsewhere.
I have been thinking of ways to display and use my lace pieces.
The one piece is a square and after thinking about it some I thought it
would be great inside a coaster form. Does anyone know of anyplace to
find such a thing?
I am thinking something along the lines of acrylic cover that would
protect the lace but be functional as a coaster. Does that make sense?
Thanks!
Shell, who is in training at a new job and working on some simple
torchon lace Pricking is done, just need to finish winding the
bobbins for it!

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Re: [lace] 2015/Iowa/Czech-Slovak Hoover Museums - More

2014-01-13 Thread Sue Babbs
The lace and costumes at the  Czech  Slovak Museum are well worth a visit. 
I went to a special exhibit they held while my son was at college nearby and 
enjoyed it a lot. I saw that the committee said that they are working with 
this museum


I would also recommend a trip to the Amana colonies for local culture (and 
wonderful quilting fabrics).


Sadly I think the convention is happening after the open air Shakespeare 
theatre in the parks in Iowa City will have finished for the season.


Sue

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Re: [lace] Bucks Point Christmas Tree

2014-01-11 Thread Sue Babbs
Louise West's website is at:

http://www.louisewestlacedesign.co.uk

and she has contact details on there, including her email address:
lou...@louisewestlacedesign.co.uk


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Re: [lace] 2015 IOLI convention July 27 - Aug 2

2014-01-09 Thread Sue Babbs

Iowa City airport -just a few miles away.

Coralville is the best part of 4 hours drive from Chicago O'Hare.  (Our son 
went to college 19 miles from Coralville, so we travelled that road many 
times to see performances)


If you like fabrics, while there you need to visit Stephanie Brandenburg's 
studio in the Amana Colonies

http://www.fernhill.net/

Sue

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-Original Message- 
From: lbuy...@nc.rr.com

Sent: Thursday, January 09, 2014 5:53 PM
To: lace@arachne.com
Subject: Re: [lace] 2015 IOLI convention July 27 - Aug 2

Anita,
What is the closest airport for Coralville?
Thank you,
Liz R, Raleigh NC
 purple lacer purplelace...@hotmail.com wrote:
Doris Southard Lace Guild is pleased to announce that we will be 
co-hosting

the 2015 IOLI Convention.  The headquarters hotel will be the Marriott
Coralville Hotel  Convention Center just off of Interstate 80 in 
Coralville,

Iowa.


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Re: [lace] print on demand

2014-01-08 Thread Sue Duckles
As Susan says, quite a few books have changed over... 2 on a 'lacy theme' that
spring to mind are Tatting Collage and Mastering Tatting, both by Lindsay
Rogers.  I have both of these books and they certainly lay relatively flat and
are just as easily handled as any other book!

The only other 'binding' that I would 'enjoy' is the idea of Ulrike Voelker
where she produced the torchon books in ringbinders.  This is also extremely
useful to the lacemaker as it also lays flat!  On demand book publication in
A4 or the american equivalent  could be good, as the purchaser could provide
her own binder then she or he could colour coordinate according to the
type of lace inside the folder!!

As for Noelene, if you do produce another book Noelene, we all need to know
about it and how to get hold of it!

Sue in East Yorkshire where it's dryish, sunny and not particularly windy at
the moment!!  (But don't tell it, otherwise it will revert to 'something
horrible'!)

On 7 Jan 2014, at 23:48, hottl...@neo.rr.com hottl...@neo.rr.com wrote:

 May I add, the A to Z books have changed over the years from basic spiral
bound to spiral bound with a spine cover.  This is a much more robust format 
may solve the issues that Jacquie has identified.


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Fw: [lace] Spiral binding

2014-01-08 Thread Sue
Adding to this you could use coloured card to denote various type of lace, 
ie red, yellow, blue and green etc.  I have done this and typed the name on 
the front first.

Sue T
Dorset UK

Happy New Year, everyone!
I like the idea of spiral binding when it comes to
being able to open the book to work from it or to copy a pattern.
I also see
the problems with not being able to see what the book is.  We use binding
systems at work, so I'm somewhat familiar with them.  You don't always need
to use a clear plastic cover page.  We use sheets that are a little heavier
than card stock that wear very well.
Peg

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Re: [lace] Print On Demand books

2014-01-07 Thread Sue Babbs
That's a surprise as, here in the States (where I know you live) even 
OfficeMax, Staples, Kinkos etc offer spiral binding.


Two of the difficulties with spiral binding are
1 no spine, so you have to pull them off the shelf to identify which book 
you want, and

2 the plastic covers can rip off leaving a sharp remnant.



Sue

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From: Elizabeth Kurella

Sent: Tuesday, January 07, 2014 4:38 PM
To: hottl...@neo.rr.com
Cc: lace
Subject: Re: [lace] Print On Demand books

I certainly agree that Spiral is a great way to go, but unfortunately my 
digital printer does not offer that option.  Perfect binding is the only 
binding they offer, as a way to keep costs down.
I’m working on a pattern book, so if you can suggest a printer please let me 
know.


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Re: [lace] Torn veil - help needed

2014-01-07 Thread Sue Babbs
Many thanks to so many people for the excellent advice you have given me.  I 
have forwarded the information given to my friend, who is thrilled that you 
would all offer so many comments so quickly - and from countries all round 
the world too





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Re: [lace] print on demand

2014-01-07 Thread Sue Babbs
The 'Color Works' book by Interweave press is a nice combination - spiral 
bound inside a hard cover.  I can't find a site showing that though





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Re: [lace] continueing on with Miss Channer discussion...how about other....

2014-01-05 Thread Sue
I also have one of Alex Stillwells books which goes through stages of 
explanation and pattern building, reading, understanding.  It is a lovely 
book and if I had more time to spend on Bucks I would have achieved several 
masterpieces by now:-)   I have achieved some pretty minor pieces though.

Sue T
Dorset UK

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What about the superb newly published book by our very own Alex Stillwell.

Diana

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On 5 Jan 2014, at 01:55, Marianne Gallant m...@shaw.ca wrote:
On that same note, how about some book reviews on Bucks or other point
ground books? I am looking for more intermediate to advanced instruction, 
I

know the basics, and can follow charts if they have a thread path diagram
with it, but is there anything out there that will teach you how to read
just a pricking? I have the Grammar of Point ground, and am reading 
through

it, and will in the next week or so probably start on doing some of the
practise pieces, but am wondering what else is out there.
 Marianne


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Fw: [lace] Pope and Sivewright Bishop's Cope

2014-01-05 Thread Sue
There is also a very pretty picture of Miss Channers Mat on the Poole Bobbin 
lace Circle site as well

here is the link for that.
http://www.cyberlink.co.uk/pblc/mat.htm

Sue T
Dorset UK

Hi All,  I'm glad others remembered to mention other beautiful Bucks
patterns.  I remember that from previous discussions.  The URL someone
sent to the Poole Bobbin Lace site didn't work for me, this one might, I
just took it from the site.

http://www.cyberlink.co.uk/pblc/cope.htm

The Bishop's Cope is quite gorgeous!!  I got there by googling pope
sivewright bishops cope.I'd forgotten it was
the PBLC site, a very familiar name from arachne!

Jane in Vermont, USA where it has been c-o-l-d, sup-zero at night...brrr
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[lace] Torn veil - help needed

2014-01-05 Thread Sue Babbs
A friend's granddaughter is getting married in September, and thinking of 
wearing the Brussels Lace veil, which has been worn by 50 or so brides in 
the family. So it has been brought out for inspection, and a jagged edge 
tear discovered in it.


I was sent photos today to see what I thought could be done with it, and 
don't really know what to suggest. I have uploaded these photos to Flickr, 
and am hoping that someone can give me advice on what to tell them.


http://www.flickr.com/photos/lacemaker/sets/72157639451992576/


This looks like it's outside my needlework skills.  Making new bobbin lace 
is so much easier than repairing tears!!


They put a coin on it to give an idea of scale of the hole.  I think it is a 
U.S. dime and so is about 3/4 inch or 2cm in diameter



Sue (in cold and getting colder Northfield, Illinois, where it is currently 
10 F  / -12C and dropping)


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Re: [lace] Torn veil - help needed

2014-01-05 Thread Sue Babbs

Does anyone know of anyone who does lace repairs?

It's not my field of expertise, and this big a tear looks daunting.  They 
have now confirmed that it is a quarter (not the dime that I was told it 
would be) and thus even bigger than I thought


Sue


On Jan 5, 2014, at 6:38 PM, Sue Babbs suebabbs...@gmail.com wrote:

A friend's granddaughter is getting married in September, and thinking of 
wearing the Brussels Lace veil, which has been worn by 50 or so brides in 
the family. So it has been brought out for inspection, and a jagged edge 
tear discovered in it.


I was sent photos today to see what I thought could be done with it, and 
don't really know what to suggest. I have uploaded these photos to Flickr, 
and am hoping that someone can give me advice on what to tell them.


http://www.flickr.com/photos/lacemaker/sets/72157639451992576/



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Re: [lace] New Year's Resolution

2014-01-03 Thread Sue Babbs
Oh Susan, you make me feel happy!  I only have 3 lace pillows, 4 pieces of 
embroidery,  1 crocheted hat and pair of socks on the go.  Mind you I'm not 
telling (or even trying to count) how many unstarted projects there are!!


The bad / good news about the lace projects is that 2 of them are likely to 
take more than 800 hours each.


Well done with the Le Pompe bracelet.

I've given up making New Year's resolutions - makes me feel so much better 
: )



Sue (in cold, snowed upon Northfield, where we've had about 17 inches of 
snow  in the last 3 days)


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Re: [lace] Flickr account

2014-01-03 Thread Sue Babbs

You won't get me on FaceBook though!! Way too much effort!




Sue

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From: David C COLLYER 
Sent: Friday, January 03, 2014 7:24 AM 
To: Clay Blackwell ; Sue Babbs ; Arachne 
Subject: Re: [lace] Flickr account 


Clay,
I wanted to reply to you privately but comcast hates my PC and will 
only allow my iPad :)


I personally don't do Flickr at all and reckon it would all be far 
simpler just to set up a closed group on Facebook where most of us 
are already anyway. I am in half a dozen of so fo these groups and 
it's just so easy for everyone to post their photos, tell their 
stories and view everyone else''s posts.

Just my twopeNnyworth
David in Ballarat, AUS

Flickr temporarily suspended the arachne2003 account because they 
believed it had been hacked.


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Re: [lace] Miss Channer's Mat

2014-01-03 Thread Sue Harvey
I also have Miss Channers mat  pricking ,hidden away until I obtained enough 
skills to work it, now I feel able to I find that in my estimation it will take 
200 plus pairs which means I will have o finish every project I have on the go 
so I have enough bobbins, ah well maybe later in the year.

Sue M Harvey
Norfolk
U.K. 
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Re: [lace] Lace8

2014-01-02 Thread Sue
I say about my lace work, is that it keeps me out of mischief (but then I 
sometimes take mine out on a funster rally, my DH was looking for mischief 
but only found the funsters:-)


I am still using Lace 2000 and it has just gone on my computer again after a 
change of hard drive and enjoyed remaking one of my patterns recently.   It 
is great to be able to see your motifs come together and looking like a 
professional, clear pattern to work from plus it gives you the ability to 
change the grid size and gives you a glow of satisfaction to see it in 
print.   I have used the book and instructions which is a real help.   So 
your work has certainly been appreciated over the years.

Sue T
Dorset in a lull between storms.



Dear Sue,
that was a nice compliment to wake up to this morning!I do enjoy the 
challenge involved in solving the computer problems, and, as my mother 
would've said it keeps me off the streets!Very big grin!!

Regards,
Ruth
thelacema...@optusnet.com.au

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Re: [lace] UFOs

2014-01-02 Thread Sue
Happy New Year from us here in Dorset as well.I cleared up lots of 
little lace pieces during the last 2 or 3 months of the year and have now in 
the middle of making a gift but have sat and begun to list ufos of sewing, 
lace and things like that that must be done soon, then a list ofodd ufos in 
my little box with no end user yet.  When I heard about an engagement I have 
made items of lace over the years, but they dont always lead to a wedding. 
One piece wasn't ready in time so still sits as pieces of lace in my box and 
needs to be all sewn together, I wanted to have a couple of horseshoes 
waiting so that if I heard of an engagement, special wedding anniversary or 
something I didn't have to rush at making one, so have left them unfinished.
One piece I have been unsuccessful in cutting out the right shape acetate to 
sandwich in between so is not finished.  Now need more acetate.Most of 
my ufos are down to the sewing completion   my weakness it would appear. 
I haven't yet left any unfinished lace in the making on pillows.
I have been asked to teach my next door neighbour to make lace so need to 
get some items together for that and someone else wants me to show her 
little craft group how to do the needle tatting which I made for several 
bauble coverings.
I have plans to learn another craft which means reading and trying, watching 
video clips and seeing how I get on, but I have more faith in myself now 
having used this method to learn the needle tatting in 2013.
No big lace projects in mind yet this year so I need to go through my books 
and choose my patterns and ideas for the future.   First time in a very long 
time I haven't had a long list of things to do already, :-)   I dislike 
sitting without ideas of what to do next though, so need to find something 
soon.

Sue T
Dorset UK


Happy New Year to all fellow spiders, have you made any resolutions? Mine is 
to finish all UFOs before I start any further new ones, to date it is:- 1 
almost finished Honiton tortoise sampler,  1 very large tablecloth edging 
( just 10 repeats to do) 1 Multicoloured dragon (very large) 1 Bucks Point 
snowman (started for Christmas but not completed in time ) 1 braid glove in 
black , oh and 1 cross stitch of 2 Chinese children started about 3years ago 
I'm ashamed to say but put away and forgotten.

Sue M Harvey
Norfolk
U.K.

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[lace] Lace 8

2014-01-02 Thread Sue Martin
I am very excited I have been given Lace 8 for Christmas and Iam about to
put it on my computer.  Having read the notes I have banned my husband from
the room!

 

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Re: [lace] Photos

2014-01-02 Thread Sue Babbs
Clay and I are trying to find a work around / secondary password to allow 
people outside the United States to upload their own photos. We need a 
computer literate person outside the USA to help test this, please!


Meanwhile the easiest approach is for me to upload them for you.

Send me a private email with:
   the photos
   title of the lace (if there is one)
   a description of the lace
   tags (e.g. Needle Lace, Honiton, Binche etc.)
   what set you wish the photos to be put in

I do not find Flickr to be intuitive to use (other than for simply viewing 
the photos), and it keeps changing it's layout, and where you find out how 
to edit info and sets.  So adding all the info when uploading is much the 
easiest


And for Janet Theaker, who doesn't seem to get my messages directly:
I guess you are not receiving my emails as you have not replied to any of my 
earlier messages offering to upload your photo.  It is much easier for me if 
I get all the information at once. Please let me have that, and I will then 
upload it.


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