[lace] Prince George's Honiton Lace

2013-10-23 Thread Sue Fink
Thank you Adele, for posting about this charming video!  I did enjoy seeing
it and isn't it wonderful that I can view it in the far flung empire!!  (New
Zealand)

 

Sue Fink,

Masterton, New Zealand

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Re: [lace] Name the Good Teachers, Please!

2013-10-21 Thread Sue Harvey
The 2 good teaching books that I could not have managed without were firstly - 
my bible when I first started learning lace " The Technique of Bobbin Lace" by 
Pamela Nottingham and later " a Visual Introduction to Bucks Point Lace" by 
Geraldine Stott  those 2 gave  me an excellent grounding to lace making

Sue M Harvey
Norfolk
U.K. 

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Re: [lace] Learning lace on your own

2013-10-21 Thread Sue
I was pleased to read this, it makes a huge amount of sense and I learned 
this first going on to bucks beds etc.  There are lots I haven't tackled but 
am usually happy working what I make.  I used to get very angry at my 
mistakes, but am much more forgiving these days.  Made a stupid mistake the 
other day by cutting off my bobbins while only half way through sewing in 
and tying off.  Corrected most but still forgot one and cut it off short 
For a few minutes I thought it might have to be scrapped but the threads 
that weren't tied in go into a spider so all the other threads are holding 
them so that is our this year christmas piece and I am content to be so.
Too much on my mind at the moment, but the lace work is still theraputic and 
helping to keep me calm:-) Hopefully I wont make the same errors the 
next time round.

Sue T
Dorset UK, where the stormy winds are blowing a bit wild this morning

One reason for starting with Torchon is that is geometric on 45 degrees and 
if

you make a mistake such as not closing the pin or forgetting a twist it is
soo obvious and it might not be so obvious in other laces. So it's great
if you're the type of person who wants to know that their work is perfect.
Personally, I prefer my work to have "design features" and don't fret if
there's a mistake (or even a lot of them). It's just for me, and even if I
give it away, the recipient doesn't usually know it isn't perfect.

I don't want lacemaking to be a chore - I do it because I enjoy it.

Jean in Poole, Dorset, UK

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Re: [lace] Wire lace

2013-10-02 Thread Sue Harvey
Thank you Susan for sharing, it's a very pretty bracelet, I have not tried wire 
lace yet but would like to have a go, you have managed the picot edging 
beautifully considering how hard it is to keep the kinks out of the wire I've 
been told.

Sue M Harvey
Norfolk U.K.


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Re: [lace] My bucks efforts so far

2013-10-02 Thread Sue Harvey
Well done, that's exactly how I taught myself Bucks but I used Geraldine Stotts 
book "A Visual Introduction to Bucks Point Lace" I ended up with lots of little 
lengths of lace which being me I did not want to just waste, so I made a 
christening outfit for a small doll and decorated it with all the lengths ( 
including lace round the bottom of the drawers) if you would like to see it 
it's on my pictures on the photo site.

Sue M Harvey
Norfolk
U.K.

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Re: [lace] Wire Lace with Kim Davis

2013-10-01 Thread Sue Harvey
And are we going to have the pleasure of viewing this piece of lace? Would love 
to see it.

Sue M Harvey
Norfolk U.K. 

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[lace] searching for pattern

2013-09-24 Thread Sue Martin
Dear spiders I do hope one you can help me.  I am searching for a lace
pattern of a hand holding a piece of lace.  I seem to remember the whole
thing was lace but I cannot remember where I saw it and I would like to do
the pattern if I can find it. Does anyone know of this design?

 

Sue M

Farnborough, UK

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Re: [lace] The Tudor Child - Book Review

2013-09-23 Thread Sue Harvey
Must try to get my hands on this book.  I am so excited because our lace group 
is going to Hampton Court next June to visit The Royal School of Needlework, I 
think this book will be good homework prior to our visit. 

Sue M Harvey
Norfolk
U.K.

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Re: [lace] Thread advice please

2013-09-18 Thread Sue

Hi Brenda,
Remembered your book very soon after sending the original email and checking 
out threads and numbers got it about right I think judging by an email from 
another Arachnid, so am happy to change threads for the next one and expect 
it to be much better.
I took the finished one off the pillow and while its not the best piece of 
lace I have ever made its not too bad.  hanging up with the christmas 
decorations it will look ok, so at least I dont need to throw it away or put 
it into a folder never to see the light of day.  I have two other threads 
which appear to be the right size for that change, so next one will he 
worked using one of those,
Many thanks and when you leave our county of Dorset you are more than 
welcome to take the wet and the wind with you:-)

Sue T
In dryer and brighter Dorset today.

Sue wrote:

I am working one of Christine springetts circular pieces in a bangle and
carried on using the 36/2 she mentioned only using egyptian cotton which I
like.   But, to get it to sit in my bangle I increased the size of the
pattern
to 119% and carried on with it anyway.


Hi Sue
I'm away from home (in wet and windy Dorset!) so can't look anything up
properly, but I'd suggest trying a 30/2 cotton to start with.

If you don't get a satisfactory answer in the meantime I will have a
proper think about this next week.

Brenda

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Re: [lace] Tatting left handed

2013-09-18 Thread Sue Duckles
Funny isn't it?  I taught myself to tat after seeing an elderly man tatting at
a craft show around 45 years ago.  I got a shuttle, and a basic book (can't
remember which one, cept it had an orange cover) and taught myself left handed
(shuttle in left, thread in right).  I've never had a problem with patterns
etc, neither have I with crochet - hook in left, thread in right again.  All I
have to remember is that if I'm doing something like a jacket, then the right
side is the left side.

Not a problem as far as I'm concerned.

Sue
My Tatty Blog http://pigminitatty.blogspot.co.uk/

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Re: [lace] Thread advice please

2013-09-17 Thread Sue

Thank you folks,
Having sent the email, got one reply back suggesting I might put more 
threads in.  I did put an extra one in on the outside edge but not the 
inside which would have benefitted from an extra one as well I do feel that 
the whole thing will be too spidery thin for the best look.  I started to 
think what other thread might work and got Brendas book out.  I hadn't 
really got an idea of what thread would fit the bill, but took a sensible 
look through and actually did look at the 27, 28 wpc threads realising I do 
have a couple of threads which fit the bill.
So thank you, as ever for the help and I am really rather pleased with 
myself for thinking that through and coming up with the same sort of 
numbers.  What a long way I have come with Brenda's book and with lace via 
Arachne.

Sue T
Dorset UK

Hello Sue and everyone

You've enlarged the pattern 119% so I'm thinking the thread size should be
increased by that. Brok 36/2 and E.C. 36/2 are 32 and 31 wraps
respectively. Doing the arithmetic, dividing the 32 by 1.19 I get 27-28
wraps for the slightly thicker thread. Now to find an accessible thread.
Madeira Cotona 30 is 29 wraps in Brenda's T4Lace, could do quite well.
If you have that book, check out the 27- and 28-wrap columns.
My go-to would be the Sulky 30 wt. in the 27 wraps section.
Does this help?

On Tue, Sep 17, 2013 at 7:04 AM, Sue  wrote:


I am working one of Christine springetts circular pieces in a bangle and
carried on using the 36/2 she mentioned only using egyptian cotton which I
like.   But, to get it to sit in my bangle I increased the size of the
pattern
to 119% and carried on with it anyway.



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[lace] Thread advice please

2013-09-17 Thread Sue
I am working one of Christine springetts circular pieces in a bangle and
carried on using the 36/2 she mentioned only using egyptian cotton which I
like.   But, to get it to sit in my bangle I increased the size of the pattern
to 119% and carried on with it anyway.
Of course now I can see that while some can be increased without too much of a
problem this was not the best choice on this occasion.   I did mull over the
threads I had but didn’t know how best to decide how far to change it and
what would have worked better.  This was sort of a trial piece so need to know
what to use for the actuals please if anyone can advice me.
Have been very stressed lately (due to life), but found sitting with my lace
pillow yesterday evening quite calmingI do need to make some more but want
them to be right and look lovely so all advice would be very welcome.
Sue T
Dorset UK, where autumn has arrived with a bang.  Very we and very chilly,

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Re: [lace] Interwoven Globe: The Worldwide Textile Trade 1500-1800 exhibition

2013-09-16 Thread Sue Harvey
Thank you all, the tiny Url worked, just wish that I could actually go to see 
the exhibition it looks superb.

Sue M Harvey
Norfolk 
U.K. 

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Re: [lace] Interwoven Globe: The Worldwide Textile Trade 1500-1800 exhibition

2013-09-16 Thread Sue Harvey
Oh dear cannot see it, it just says page not found, is there a tiny URL that 
might work please maybe the link is too long as it does not all highlight

Sue MHarvey
Norfolk
U.K.

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[lace] Christmas

2013-09-14 Thread Sue Harvey
Has anyone organised a card exchange yet  . As its getting near the end of 
September I am thinking maybe I should start some cards (even if it is far too 
early to be thinking of Christmas   we crafters have to think ahead ) 

Sue M Harvey
Norfolk
U.K. 
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Fw: [lace] Lace websites

2013-09-04 Thread Sue
On this subject I was sure I had something in my hands recently that I 
thought I would never use or else had two, for the life of me I cant 
remember what it was, but when the thought comes back to me which it might, 
:-)   I will dig it out and raffle it.  We haven't had one in quite a while 
and I would rather give it away to someone else than throw it away or just 
keep it getting in the way.

Sue T
Dorset UK, where we still have some nice weather which has been rare these 
past quite a few years


Hello All,
Some time ago there was a discussion here about how we all could contribute 
to

the list. I am so grateful for the lacemaking friends that I got through
Arachne and would like very much to do something in return.
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Re: [lace] My Thistle Bookmark got a

2013-08-25 Thread Sue Harvey
They are an excellent project for making you think, I made Jeans "Rose" 
bookmark for my sister ( her name). I don't know who was the more pleased, her 
for receiving it or me for managing to make it.
Sue M Harvey
Norfolk U.K. 
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Re: [lace] My Thistle Bookmark got a

2013-08-25 Thread Sue
Well done Sherry, it is a pretty piece so an achievement for you and also a 
well done to the designer, it is lovely.  I have also got the patterns but 
haven't attempted to make them.

Sue T
Dorset UK

ribbon for second place at the New York State Fair. I put a picture of the
bookmark and ribbon.up on my blog. Address in signature.
  I have to thank
Jean  Leader for the design that burned my A_ _ to learn how to do 
bobbinlace
and to in the end finish it and get a ribbon for it. I love this design. 
Maybe

in the coming months will attack one of her other designs. Daunting in deedy
Wind To Thy Wings,
Sherry
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Re: [lace] Its been a while coming

2013-08-21 Thread Sue
They are fantastic, they look incredible.  Colours great so who ever did them
well done because they are a treat to see.  Of course I love them all, tatting
bobbin lace etc, Cats, such cuties, but I have not seen the Romanian point
lace before.
Thank you ladies for telling me so quickly   Arachne is the best’
Sue T
Dorset UK off to wash some dishes before I finish my current piece of lace

Hi Sue,
They are Romanian point lace and the cord is worked with a crochet hook, laid
out on a pattern (just like needlelace) and then filling stitches worked.
The cord is fun to do (once you've worked out how to do it!) and it is one of
the easiest laces to design your own patterns.  There are several good
tutorials on YouTube, as well as some great books by Syliva Murariu.
Jill
Milton Keynes, UK

> On 21 August 2013 at 15:40 Sue  wrote:
>
I am intrigued to know how two of the early ones are, cord work, I dont think
it is tatting, but it doesn't look like bobbin lace, could it be needle lace?

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Re: [lace] Its been a while coming

2013-08-21 Thread Sue
Some beautiful lace and such a wide variety.  beautiful work.   I am 
intrigued to know how two of the early ones are, cord work, I dont think it 
is tatting, but it doesn't look like bobbin lace, could it be needle lace?

Great work every one and well done for the visuals.
Sue T
Dorset UK

Hello one and all

It has been a while coming and truthfully it isn't finished just yet, but
the gallery is up and visible for the Arachne 2013 Bookmark Exchange and I
know there have been a few of you waiting to see what ones have been sent
through for viewing.

Jenny Brandis

Kununurra, Western Australia

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Re: [lace] Lace Demo in the News

2013-08-20 Thread Sue Harvey
I had the same thing happen, a post I sent on 8th Aug.  only just arrived 
yesterday? 

Sue M Harvey

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On 19 Aug 2013, at 23:41, The Lacebee  wrote:

> Dear Arachne 
> 
> I've just received in the past 10 minutes over 20 emails from Arachne that 
> I've already received.  This is a sample.  You can see it is post marked 8Aug 
> but it 

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Re: [lace] First Lace iPhone App

2013-08-19 Thread Sue Harvey
Have downloaded the app it works ok on my iPad thank you
Sue M Harvey


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Re: [lace] First Lace iPhone App

2013-08-07 Thread Sue Harvey
Mine was downloaded from Apple App Store

Sue M Harvey

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Re: [lace] First Lace iPhone App

2013-08-07 Thread Sue Harvey
Wish I had tried to download app but I thought it was only for iPhone as yet 
and I have deleted the link, can you repost details please 
Sue M Harvey

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Re: [lace] First Lace iPhone App

2013-08-05 Thread Sue Duckles
It's an excellent app!! Well Done Jean & David!  I've now got it on my phone!!

Sue in E Yorks
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> Jean and David Leader kindly let LaceNews have a scoop on the release of the
> first iPhone lace app.  See http://tinyurl.com/lwb8s4w.

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Re: [lace] Tatting

2013-08-03 Thread Sue
The particular pattern I am going to attempt is from the be stitched.com 
site talled Tatted Beaded Ornament.  A gorgeous green tatted rings, then 
loops of chain between the 2nd round of pattern.  Thread size 30 DMC cebelia 
thread and size 11 beads for anyone interested in that level of detail.   It 
says on that row to put a large number of beads on the shuttle thread and 
obviously pushing of enough of the beads for each loop, which are between a 
single ring each time they have used 16 beads per loop.

This particular piece lays over a christmas bauble.
I am now off to continue on and maybe finish off a first biggish piece for 
me, a bookmark which is going to become a bracelet for my great 
granddaughter.
Thanks for your reply which I will add to my notes for the future.   At last 
I can see a future in tatting which I have never managed before.   Quite 
proud of managing it at last.  Feels good.

Sue T

On 8/2/13 8:23 AM, Sue wrote:


If I choose to work a tatting pattern which has beans in
without, do I replace each bead with a double stitch?
(this particular one I am looking at is a string of beads
in place of the chain loop between rings.


Depends on the pattern, and on how the bead is attached.
Some, just ignore the instructions to add beads, some
replace the bead with a picot.  Here, where you are
replacing a string of beads with a chain, compare the size
of a double stitch with the size of the bead you're not
putting in, and calculate how many ds you need.

In most of my patterns, the chain loops have the same number
of ds as the chains.  Statement made without checking; Could
be half the number -- it's been years since I burrowed down
to the simple edging in my go-bag.  Chain loops can vary
quite a lot without forcing the edge to curl.

I'm wondering how the second thread is carried to the other
end of the string of beads -- or, alternatively, where you
are getting the second thread to make a chain loop.

If only one thread is available, you can work small rings
nose-to-tail with the thread carried behind.
http://joybeeson.home.comcast.net/~joybeeson/TAT/TATEX03.HTM

Another expedient used in pre-chain patterns is to pick up a
hook and crochet a chain.
Joy Beeson
http://www.debeeson.net/joy

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Re: [lace] Tatting

2013-08-02 Thread Sue

I should have read this through, of course I mean Beads, not beans, LOL.
Sue

Knowing that many of you spiders tat, I wonder if you can tell me something.
If I choose to work a tatting pattern which has beans in without, do I 
replace

each bead with a double stitch?  (this particular one I am looking at is a
string of beads in place of the chain loop between rings.

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[lace] Tatting

2013-08-02 Thread Sue
Knowing that many of you spiders tat, I wonder if you can tell me something.
If I choose to work a tatting pattern which has beans in without, do I replace
each bead with a double stitch?  (this particular one I am looking at is a
string of beads in place of the chain loop between rings.

On a what are you working on at the moment, you can tell I am attempting to
create a little bracelet but keeping it simple as this is the first, also
looking at other patterns on the web that I like the look of
I have just Yesterday taken a piece of bobbin lace off my pillow which has
taken a few evenings to make (oooh it felt good to be able to work some lace
after my knitting marathon) and I finally achieved the first of my little lace
circles to go into some candleholders I bought before 2008, not sure when.  I
was considering getting them ready for our Ruby Wedding but couldn’t find a
pattern (or create my own), but since found just the piece in one of the
Christine Springett books.  One down, one to go  45th Wedding anniversary next
month so perhaps thats a good time to use them
Sue T
Dorset where we have dull and showery after the heatwave of the last couple of
weeks.

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Re: [lace] Orange + Blue = Buff

2013-08-01 Thread Sue Babbs
I was surprised recently when i experimented with green card and than
continued working on to an orange piece, to discover that the contrast was
so much better with white thread on orange than green (which I find better
than the normal blue).  I had pinned the orange card on part way through
working the lace, and then forgotten I was doing this trial.  I suddenly
found it all looked much better and realised that I had I reached the
orange.

I am hoping this message trims alright.  I am working on my dad's computer
and think it has trimmed, but am not sure!


Sue


On Thu, Aug 1, 2013 at 7:41 AM, Jacquie Tinch  wrote:

> But
> Orange is a lovely colour to work on and not at all tiring to the eyes. It
> and red are commonly used as the pricking colour in Spain, which is where I
> first tried it, and I brought orange film back to the UK. Everyone of my
> students who has tried it prefers it to blue or even the traditional brown
> card colour.
>
> White/cream/ecru shows much better against it than against pale blue, as
> do many colours. Not orange of course!
>
> It is now available in the UK from one of the general suppliers.
>
> Look at the Lace Guild Facebook page to see Mary making ((and finishing)
> the super quick scarf, the pattern for which was in her goody bag at
> convention this year. She has orange film over yellow card with lavender
> blue wool.
>
> Jacquie, in Shrewsbury this week.
>
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Re: [lace] Teaching lace - UK background checks

2013-07-29 Thread Sue Duckles
That'd be about right volunteers would have to pay themselves I can 
foresee people not bothering to volunteer at all!!  School crossing patrols for 
instance... only work 5 hours per week termtimes only and they'd have to 
pay for the check??  Can we really see that working?

Back down off soapbox

Sue (Lollipop Lady in North of UK)


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> I seem to remember it was said that people required a background check for
> each class/group taught in different locations.  This morning, in the church
> coffee lounge I was told the system has changed. 
> You can find out about it on:
> 
> 
> www.homeoffice.gov.uk/dbs

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Re: [lace] a Facebook post

2013-07-29 Thread Sue Harvey
So why haven't we seen "work in progress" pictures David? You know how we all 
love to see them 
In anticipation
Sue M Harvey
Norfolk
U.K. 


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On 29 Jul 2013, at 13:37, David C COLLYER  wrote:

> Dear Friends,
> One of the blokes I fought with in Vietnam back in 1970 has just 
> posted the following on facebook and made me proud to call him a friend:-
> 
> 
> My mate David Collyer (see my ANZAC Day post) as well as being a 
> hugely talented bloke is also an amazing lacemaker, following a 
> tradition in the male line of his family.
> 
> This is his latest work-in-progress that I thought I'd share with my 
> FB friends. I haven't counted the bobbins in use but it's 
> mind-boggling how Dave keeps track of what he's doing. Good on you 
> Dave - looking forward to seeing the finished piece.
> 
> I am now 3/4 way through a lovely Art Nouveau style edging of 
> Chantilly Lace from Ulrike Voelker's "Schwartzarbeit Band 2" - about 
> a month to go.
> 
> 
> David in Ballarat, AUS
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Re: [lace] caring for needles

2013-07-23 Thread Sue
Thank you for this, sounds good, not sure if I have any so will need to keep 
my eyes open.  I also have some wool material so will cut a piece of that if 
I want to stick them through anything.
Obviously we keep a variety of things and want to keep them in the best 
condition we can.

Always grateful for helpful advice.
Sue T
Dorset UK, where our beautiful sun and heat have disappeared behind the 
cloud and sea fret, :-(


Hello All!  Embroiderers know that needles are best kept in wool--something 
about the lanolin keeps them rust free.  But that doesn't answer Sue's 
problem with scissors or other steel objects in her first aid kit.  What 
about those little "silica gel" packs that come in just about everything 
these days?  My stash of vintage French faceted steel beads has benefitted 
from them.  They have been stored in plastic bags with the desiccant packs 
for two years with no ill effects.  The packs themselves are made of Tyvek. 
Hope this helps.  Sincerely, Susan Hottle, Erie, PA USA


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[lace] Re: [lace-chat] Caring for needles

2013-07-22 Thread Sue
Some of the needles I have have been around quite a time and the ones I have 
left in their plastic insert seem to be ok, just this other lovely set which 
I thought would be a good emergency kit in the caravan has obviously got 
damp and rusted.   I not remember ever seeing the option of either stainless 
steel when buying but I understand what you mean, so will keep my eyes open 
in the future.
I would like to set up a little kit to take about with me but avoiding this 
in the future in the same way you keep a first aid kit and dont want to find 
rusty scissors inside if you ever need to use it, so if anyone has other 
suggestions for a way they successfully store and carry small amounts like 
this around, crochet hooks, tatting hooks or whatever.
I have had a couple of very good suggestions thank you, but still haven't 
cracked this storage problem for the future.

Sue T


I think the problem lies in the fact that a lot of needles, pins and crochet
hooks etc. (sewing, knitting etc.) are no longer made in stainless steel,
but instead are nickel-steel. These will not only rust, but also flake (the
outer steel layer comes off) etc.
So be sure to buy proper 18/8 stainless steel- if you can find them. they
are generally more expensive, but worth the extra.
Agnes Boddington - Elloughton UK

Subject: [lace-chat] Caring for needles
This is a general question about sewing needles but also tatting needles and
keeping them in good condition.
I recently went to use some sewing needles that have been stored in a little
cloth carry case and they look rusty at the point where they stick through
the
cloth so not something I would use to sew with, particularly not lace.
This
particular case has been sitting in a cupboard in our caravan so may have
got
damp at some time so understandable I suppose.

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Re: [lace] Will men wear skirts and lace?

2013-07-14 Thread Sue

I think they might shock the audience more than make themselves blush, LOL.
Sue T Dorset UK

I don't think the big, burly men who toss the caber at Highland Games would
agree that they are wearing skirts: Out of sheer modesty and decency they 
have

to wear something under their kilts.  Have you seen how those kilts rise up
with the sheer effort of throwing a long tree trunk?
Patricia in Wales

Bev wrote:

kilts and lace yes. v. strong and proper.
erm, there is a definition, a kilt isn't a skirt unless the person is
wearing underwear...


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Re: [lace] Easiest for who?

2013-07-11 Thread Sue Duckles
Morning All

Ok so, some people have suggested using a mirror to 'teach' left-handers 
how to knit/sew/crochet/tat etc

If you look on the 'net' there are a veritable wealth of videos showing just 
exactly how to do all of these using either right or left hands  

Alex says that she taught herself how to tat and crochet right handed so that 
she can teach it and that if the person was left handed then she 
struggles  When we're making lace do we think which hand to pick up the 
pin?  which hand to use the pricker in?  No!!  Most people who are left handed 
adapt very readily to a right hand world... I taught myself to crochet, and 
tat why?? because I'm left handed!  Over the years I've found that most 
left handers are very adept at 'swapping' around when they see how to do 
something shown by a right handed person.  they have to be, after all they 
don't teach you separately in school to write because you're left handed do 
they??  Before you all write in and share your experiences of being made to sit 
on your left hand and use the 'wrong' one to write with we know about 
those... LOL.  However, we can write, we can read, bake, sew on a button

Please don't forget that we've been adapting for years with scissors, tin 
openers, doors (it annoys my family that the 'handle' on our lounge door is 
'left handed' and they catch their knuckles when closing it VBG), we don't 
complain that much because we accept it!  So, if someone really wants to 
'learn' they will!!

Oh, and, I knit northern english method, with the right hand needle under my 
arm, and wool in right hand, continentals don't have a problem with wool in 
left hand, so if someone struggles to learn one method, learn the other!! I 
crochet left handed, and tat left handed, pins are picked up with the left for 
bobbin lace, as is the pricker, scissors etc  And yes, I use a fork in my 
left hand and a knife in my right!  after all, you use the fork more than you 
do the knife do right handers struggle with that??

Back down off soapbox!!

Sue in East Yorkshire

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Re: [lace] Skills to tout to get them to let you teach lace to children recap

2013-07-09 Thread Sue Harvey
I remember the very first conversation I held with my first lace teacher (now 
very sadly suffering from Alzheimer's ) on my enquiry about her classes she 
asked me if I liked jigsaw puzzles I replied that I did and her response was " 
well you will like lacemaking then" bless you Noni what a sad loss to the 
lacemaking world you are.  

Sue M Harvey
Norfolk U.K. 

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Re: [lace] Lace & Maths

2013-07-09 Thread Sue Duckles
Can't help but think of one of the books on the history of lace. the 
children could make lace but they couldn't read, write except for maybe their 
own name, name the current monarch, etc  They never learned maths, english, 
history, current affairs, etc

Did it stop them making lace??  I think not!

Sue in East Yorks

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Re: [lace] Teaching children

2013-07-09 Thread Sue Duckles
Hi All

Been watching this thread with interest.  I am enhanced CRB checked and do hold 
a current certificate however here in the UK it would only cover me for 
being a School Crossing Patrol!  If I wanted to go into school to 'teach' then 
I should be CRB checked for that... if I wanted to work with 'vulnerable 
adults' in other centres again another CRB check would have to be made.  
Trusteeship of a group registered with the Charities Commission would need 
another CRB clearance  All of which must be paid for by an organisation, 
and the paperwork can take up to 6 months!!

This situation is rather ludicrous, as each of the above checks would be made 
by the SAME County Council!!!  Now where is the sense in that??  IMHO it's a 
great way of raising extra money!  Also, if someone is 'retired' or 
self-employed, there is NO WAY that they can get their employer to pay for a 
CRB clearance doesn't enter into the scheme!

In other words, whereas I could potentially go into the community to teach lace 
because I'm 'employed' , someone else who is retired couldn't, unless they 
could 'persuade' the relevant school or whatever, to pay £60 UKP EACH 
TIME!!!  Separate ones for separate schools/centres etc

this is probably why it just ain't gonna happen here in the UK!!

Down off soapbox

Sue in East Yorkshrie

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Re: [lace] Lace and math, was Teaching children

2013-07-07 Thread Sue

I knew there was a way but not on that day.
Sue T

Hi Sue and fellow Arachnids,

Have you tried showing a left-hander a technique in the mirror. It works for
some though not for all.

Happy lace making,

Joepie, in sunny East Sussex.
I dont know about lacemaking but when my daughter was about eight I
volunteered to teach some children to crochet and I sat around a circular
table with several girls helping each one to get the hang of how to make it
work, even managing to change hands and do it left handed for one little
girl (I have recently tried to do that again for a friend and over 30 years
later my brain and hands wouldn't respond).  Sue T
Dorset UK where we have been basking in fabulous sunshine now for days:-)
At last

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Re: [lace] Lace and math, was Teaching children

2013-07-07 Thread Sue
I dont know about lacemaking but when my daughter was about eight I 
volunteered to teach some children to crochet and I sat around a circular 
table with several girls helping each one to get the hang of how to make it 
work, even managing to change hands and do it left handed for one little 
girl (I have recently tried to do that again for a friend and over 30 years 
later my brain and hands wouldn't respond).   There was a joy and eagerness 
within the group and others in the glass doing other crafts.   As with all 
arts, crafts and lessons I think that a variety of people will respond but 
not all, so agree it wouldn't be right to push all to take it up.  Many of 
you have had excellent responses from young boys as well as girls with the 
fishes and the snakes rather than the strips of lace but if they see a 
variety of types and have chance to try themselves, I think there might well 
be a good response.  Anything else it teaches the children and we know there 
are lots of benefits to be gained would be really good.

Sue T
Dorset UK where we have been basking in fabulous sunshine now for days:-) 
At last


Dear Clay, et al,

That is not what was said.  The point is that many women whose minds are 
mathematically, etc. inclined are drawn to lacemaking.  That is, of course, 
not the only group drawn to the craft, but there seems to be a fairly large 
number of such math, etc. types who are drawn.  There are, of course, other 
aspects of lacemaking which draw other people to the art, but that argument 
will not go nearly as far in promoting lacemaking in children, as there are 
so many other disciplines, areas, that do that.  Music, the arts, painting, 
to name a few.  But since those areas do not involve lace, I was emphasizing 
the mathematical connection.  And note, I mentioned Torchon in particular. 
Flanders would be another mathematical lace.  Binche went beyond that, and 
while it incorporates Flanders in some ways, it went on to other areas as 
well.  lrb



I am astonished that no one has challenged the notion that people with
superior math/science/computer programming skills make the best
lacemakers!!  It may be that those who are making the claims happen to
have those skills, but being able to execute a lace pattern is not the
same as making it a thing of beauty, which separates the competent
lacemaker from the extraordinary one.  And it take an artist to design
the lace in the first place.



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Re: [lace] Teaching Lace to Children

2013-07-06 Thread Sue Duckles
Hello All

Our group here in East Yorkshire have been demonstrating lace today and are 
back again tomorrow, at a Garden Centre in Dunswell, just outside of Hull.  
This morning we had a lady who was very interested, and we're keeping our 
fingers crossed that she takes it further...  while she was chatting to 
Maureen, her son of around 14 was eyeing up the practice pillow after 
showing him what to do, we set him the challenge of finishing off the small 
piece of lace that was on there just a small 'fish' shape he finished 
it and was extremely proud to be able to take it home!!!   With any luck it 
will stay with him for the rest of his life, that he CAN do something like 
this!!!

Sue in a hot, sticky, East Yorkshire

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Re: [lace] Salon/Kant in Amsterdam

2013-07-02 Thread Sue
I managed to find it on this link, I think its the right one, so have copied 
the link as below.

it also translated to english for me.
Sue T Dorset UK

http://www.kloskant.com/blog/blog.html


HI
Your link to www.kloskant.com/blog does not allow access to the site
Would you kindly rectify
Manie


A while ago I promised to write about the Salon/Kant in Amsterdam. As you
perhaps know Kant in Dutch means lace.
The Salon is a manifestation with a lot of small exhibitions in museums and
galleries in the centre of Amsterdam. The opening was on the 15th of June in
the Amsterdam Museum. There were about 35 people making lace outside the
museum and inside an exhibition of lace of the LOKK. In the afternoon we

of the organisation www.salon1amsterdam.blogspot.com I hope you will enjoy
it and when you have the opportunity to visit it, do so.
Happy lacing

Gon Homburg, in a sunny Amsterdam, The Netherlands

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2013-06-23 Thread Sue
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Re: [lace] Tonder Lace Festival

2013-06-23 Thread Sue Babbs
I'm at Sweet Briar too - itching for classes to start!! I got a brief 
preview of Bobbi's book last night.  It is truly wonderful!


Had a lovely walk past the stables this morning and saw a white-tailed deer 
and little baby, about knee high on me!


Sue Babbs

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[lace] Queens Honours and Lace

2013-06-15 Thread Sue
We have just seen on our local news that Pat Perryman is to be honoured by the
Queen for her work with lace making.  Sorry I dont know what award it was, too
busy concentrating on the lace pillow and the speakers jabot they showed.
Lace in the news again

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Fw: [lace] Pattern drawing software

2013-06-15 Thread Sue
Just to add my bit to this conversation, I have the Easy Lace program which 
could be sold on to an interested buyer, as I no longer use it, but I have 
been using Lace 2000 which has been improved upon by 2 further updates which 
I love and use a lot.  No axe to grind and just a user, someone who wanted 
to create some of her own patterns and have succeeded with this program. 
The other one was much more difficult but I did make up a few.

Sue T

The information is just a little bit out of date, I'm afraid.Lace RXP
was replaced by Lace8 a year ago and Easy Lace went out of business about
three years ago.

As I've said to someone, Lace8 is the nearest thing to drawing patterns by
handinstead of  graph paper, pencil and eraser, substitute computer
screen, mouse and delete button!But of course, with all the computer
extras such as copy and paste etc.

I don't want to be seen as "advertising" which is why I've stayed quiet on
this discussion - and I should point out that I cannot supply anyone out of
Australia or New Zealand with copies of the programme anyway, due to
licencing restrictions.   If you decide Lace8 is for you, I don't benefit in
any way!

Ruth Budge (Sydney, Australia)

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Re: [lace] Honiton book help

2013-06-11 Thread Sue Harvey
Hi Bev,for theChapter 8 bit  I think the title is The Technique of Honiton Lace 
by Elsie Luxton but the pattern 51leaf sampler comes from her book called 
Honiton Lace Patterns

Sue M Harvey
Norfolk
U.K.

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Re: [lace] tatting

2013-06-09 Thread Sue
Two of us at least talking about tatting at the moment are across the pond 
from you, so over 1000 miles away.  Too far to travel, but the book I am 
currently reading through will lead me in the right direction I think.

Good luck with the demo and tutorial.
Sue T
Dorset UK

There will be a tatting demo & tutorial session on Sat. June 15th at the 
Cortland, OH branch of the Warren-Trumbull County Library.  If anyone needs 
tatting assistance, please drop in!  Our tatting leader uses the Rosemarie 
Peel foldout guide.  Sincerely, Susan Hottle, Erie, PA USA


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Fw: [lace] Re: Tatting Books

2013-06-09 Thread Sue
My addition to this subject is not to take away from any of the suggestions 
from tatters, people who tatt often or who teach tatting, but to people like 
me who have wanted to, or would like to learn to tatt from scratch but 
either not achieved it, or struggle.
A dear friend suggested a book to me and I wondered if yet another book and 
dvd was worth the buying with my record over the last 30 odd years.  I have 
loved the look of but never quite understood how to achieve it (until 
recently when I used a lacet chart and shuttle kit and got the click when 
showing my husband what he wasn't doing right, LOL.)  We were both trying 
alongside the disc playing on the household television.  I have achieved 
rings, a butterfly and a motif from needle tatting in the last year, but 
still wanted to learn shuttle tatting.
Anyway yesterday  I received the new book and disc and have played the first 
3 lessons this morning and Eureka, I saw and completely understood the 
movements and the chant I wanted, ie when to go under over and when over 
under movements.

It is called Learn to Tat by Janette Baker, with an interactive dvd.
I know nothing more about her or it than what I have seen in 24 hours, but 
have seen the book on the Roseground website in the UK.

Sue T
Dorset UK

I think I would suggest looking at Lyn Morton's books - her website is
www.tatting.co.uk - also the small inexpensive books that Rosemarie Peel
has produced over the years - http://www.lacet.co.uk

Both are very helpful ladies, and Lyn also supplies threads and shuttles
etc. Rosemarie's diagrams on her 'Learn Tatting with Lacet' leaflet (and
in the new basic tatting book) are about the clearest I've seen.

I would also suggest you join either the Ring of Tatters or The Lace
Guild - both have libraries which include books that are now out of
print, and this would also enable you to see what was available before
purchasing.
--
Jane Partridge

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[lace] Re: Fw: The "Landfill Orchestra"

2013-06-07 Thread Sue Babbs
Sorry that should have gone to chat

Sue Babbs


On Fri, Jun 7, 2013 at 5:01 PM, Sue Babbs  wrote:

>
>
> Even amid squalor and poverty the beauty of man’s ingenuity gives us hope
> for a better future…..
>
>
>
>  This video is fantastic, if only for the reason that these young people,
> living in a garbage dump in PARAGUAY , have shown the world that if one
> lets mind and body work toward accomplishing something that the
> possibilities may be limitless. If you watch this video, I think you will
> understand.
>
> CLICK BELOW:
> http://www.youtube.com/watch_popup?v=UJrSUHK9Luw
>
> "Success is not final, failure is not fatal: it is the courage to continue
> that counts"--Winston Churchill
>
>
>
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[lace] Fwd: Fw: The "Landfill Orchestra"

2013-06-07 Thread Sue Babbs
Even amid squalor and poverty the beauty of man’s ingenuity gives us hope
for a better future…..



 This video is fantastic, if only for the reason that these young people,
living in a garbage dump in PARAGUAY , have shown the world that if one
lets mind and body work toward accomplishing something that the
possibilities may be limitless. If you watch this video, I think you will
understand.
CLICK BELOW:
http://www.youtube.com/watch_popup?v=UJrSUHK9Luw

"Success is not final, failure is not fatal: it is the courage to continue
that counts"--Winston Churchill

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Re: [lace] Lace luggage

2013-06-02 Thread Sue

Really good:-)
Sue T

I hope this URL will work.  Very cute lace luggage!

http://www.victoriantradingco.com/store/catalogimages/1a/i22950.html

Jane in Vermont, USA where the heat wave continues


Hello All!  Victorian Trading Co is featuring luggage printed with polka
dots & lace in their new catalogue.  Usual disclaimers!  What a hoot for a
traveling lacemaker!!  Sincerely, Susan Hottle, Erie, PA USA


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[lace] LED lighting

2013-05-26 Thread Sue
Before I went away on my recent trip I asked about LED lighting in relation 
to lacemaking with a view to possibly changing some of our lighting in our 
home and maybe for our trailer caravan.  We went to a Motorhome show and 
rally and there i got graphic first hand knowledge of the difference it 
might make.  We bought a couple of strip lights to replace the caravan ones 
and changed just one of them (something to do with the way the electrics 
worked, but the light from just this one lamp made a huge difference to the 
visual difference in the caravan.  Amazing and for once I said WOW, :-)
So I think some investment in those bulbs will happen in our household over 
the coming months.
Thank you all for the input then, no need to restart necessarily but thought 
you might like my feedback.

Sue T
Back to Dorset UK where the sun is out and with light winds for a change its 
pleasant outside instead of really chilly. 


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Re: [lace] out of print books

2013-05-25 Thread Sue
I have been away and therefore not followed all of this conversation.  Can I 
ask a question please?


Is it not possible to put these books into pdf format and accept payment 
sending them via the internet and then the individual lacemaker could print 
off as much or as little as they like.  That way you have control of the 
book matter and the prices without having to individually print out and bind 
each book or all of the other options mentioned.  Or am I simplifying this 
too much?

Sue T

- Original Message - 
From: "Alex Stillwell" 

Subject: [lace] out of print book>
I have persued Print-on demand but they were definitely not interested. 
Their

requirements for the format of the pdfs was so unusual that none of my

works for a Print on demand company and they would be interested please

contact me.

Good morning Alex

I read with interest your email about re-printing your Torchon book and the
fact that you have abandoned the idea having tried for over a year etc.  I
too have been looking once again into the possibility of re-printing my book
on Needlelace as I am appalled and horrified at the exorbitant prices being
asked for second-hand copies by out of print booksellers, whilst I sit here
and watch them do it!  Clearly there is a demand for it and I hate to see
lacemakers being 'ripped off ' by these sellers whilst there is nothing I
can do about it!  I appreciate that they provide an invaluable service but
these prices are obscene!
Many thanks
Cathy 


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Re: [lace] Ruins of Lace, kindle edition

2013-05-17 Thread Sue Harvey
By the way I got mine from the local library.  I think there is no point to 
buying books  (other than lace of course)  when I can borrow for free from the 
library.  I never read books twice so cannot see the point of loading my book 
shelves - leaves more room for the books that matter I.e. craft  books.

Sue M Harvey
Norfolk
U.K. 

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Re: [lace] Ruins of Lace, kindle edition

2013-05-17 Thread Sue Duckles
Hello Ruth

Strange isn't it??  It says that it costs 13 dollars on mine, over £8 uk.  
Shame that they charge different countries different prices for what is, after 
all, an electronic book delivered over the air/down the phone line and no extra 
costs involved!!!

Sue in East Yorks

On 17 May 2013, at 12:33, Ruth Budge wrote:

> Still showing $1.99 on my screen - a saving of $13.   And I refreshed the
> screen just to make sure.
> 
> Ruth

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Re: [lace] Ruins of Lace, kindle edition

2013-05-17 Thread Sue Harvey
I have recently read that book, I found it quite a depressing story but saying 
that I still had to finish reading it ...maybe that's a sign of a well written 
book? 

Sue M Harvey
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Re: [lace] Ruins of Lace, kindle edition

2013-05-17 Thread Sue Duckles
The price has shot up now!!  13 dollars!!!

Sue in East Yorkshire, UK
On 17 May 2013, at 02:39, Lyn Bailey wrote:

> My DH sent this to me.  Ruins of Lace, by Iris Anthony, because of the title 
> and the blurb.  I know nothing else about it, except what the website says: 
> http://www.amazon.com/Ruins-of-Lace-ebook/dp/B007ZI00HS/?tag=bookbubemailc-20
> 
> The reason I mention it is that the Kindle edition is on sale for $1.99, 
> which is a good price.  Whether this is a sale that really ends is unknown, 
> but I thought some would be interested for those times when we actually can't 
> make lace.

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[lace] Re:

2013-05-14 Thread Sue
Sorry folks, brain still working on the packing.
Sue T

Sue

you need to send you message to Majordomo.  See instructions at foot of
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Fw: [lace] Ott LED mobile task light

2013-05-12 Thread Sue
I was interested about LED lights and bulbs to put into other lights and 
lamps to aid my lacemaking but can I ask what the Ott bit means please.  I 
have sort of been able to follow this story but now have time to ask the 
question.

Sue T Dorset UK

Hello All!  Having received some off-list electrical counseling, I need to 
clarify the issues with this light!  This light does eat batteries--period. 
It's not suitable for fine work over time because my light was purchased in 
the morning & the batteries were dead by noon.  The Ott company does not 
supply an AC adapter with the initial purchase, nor does it sell one as an 
after market accessory.  The purchaser is on his/her own.  As pointed out to 
me privately, an AC adapter must be "sized" correctly for the device, 
something I felt I had done when I purchased one at Radio Shack.  Ott blames 
the premature failure of the light on the use of an incompatible AC adapter. 
The light weight, compact, flip up design is great.  The light is pure. 
Unfortunately it's a very expensive flash light & "green" only to the extent 
that the entire device may be recycled at Waste Management.  What should be 
a win-win is a big lose-lose for the consumer.  It turns out there are a 
number of re!
views & suggestions regarding this product on Amazon.  When my fluorescent 
Ott light quit during the morning session of an EGA class, I didn't take 
time to read product reviews.  I needed a light immediately & the EGA vendor 
had the LED model in stock.  It turned out to be a costly mistake.  I will 
follow up on the other LED lighting suggestions that have been offered 
before purchasing a replacement.  There should be an answer here somewhere, 
but is Ott part of the solution or part of the problem?  Sincerely, Susan 
Hottle, Erie, PA USA


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[lace] re LED lights

2013-05-08 Thread Sue
Thank you for the various comments about your experiences with LED lighting in
your homes, car and for lacemaking, helpful as always.
I do have the portable one to take out with me with its own magnifying glass
already so thanks for that.
Sue T

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Re: [lace] Lighting for lace making

2013-05-06 Thread Sue Duckles
They do come from China or somewhere like that ours came from ebay.

Sue in E Yorks
On 6 May 2013, at 09:39, Jacquie Tinch wrote:

> Have a look on eBay as there are LED bulbs for sale there at much lower 
> prices. They are sent straight from China I think, so should be equally 
> available worldwide.  DH got some for the car but said they had bulbs for all 
> purposes. 

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Re: [lace] Lighting for lace making

2013-05-05 Thread Sue Duckles
Hi All

We use an LED light in the bathroom and another one in the bedside lamp in the 
bedroom.  The light is superb!!  Agreed, they are an initial expense, but the 
amount of energy they consume is minute!  My advice would be to just try one



>> Do any of you have any experience with LED lights in your home, good or bad.

Sue in a sunny East Yorkshire

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[lace] Lighting for lace making

2013-05-05 Thread Sue
My DH and I are talking about lighting and about LED lighting in our motor
caravan and the conversation went on to include some of the lamps we use in
the house.  In the evenings I always turn off the main light and work my lace,
knit, read, watch tv or whatever else I might be doing using my angle poise
lamp.
We are considering investigating to see if using LED lamps in some places
might be better than the usual house lights.

Do any of you have any experience with LED lights in your home, good or bad.
Sue T
Dorset UK where we have sunshine, gorgeous but a chill wind as we are close to
the sea

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Re: [lace] lace photo

2013-05-04 Thread Sue

Some beautiful and very unusual pieces on this site.  Loved looking.
Sue T

A lace poncho -- the perfect solution for someone who wants to wear their
lace, but hopes to lose weight.  (me)
https://www.facebook.com/photo.php?fbid=606866862675984&set=pb.49649829037950
9.-220752.1367606185.&type=3&theater

Lorelei

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Re: [lace] Lace Guild Magazine

2013-05-04 Thread Sue Duckles
So am I Joepie!!  won't be till Tuesday at the earliest now :-(

On the upside, I did get a tatting book from Amazon this morning so that 
will give me something to look at over the weekend if I get chance!!

Sue in East Yorkshire where it can't decide if its going to rain or not!!
On 3 May 2013, at 07:58, J D Hammett wrote:

> Hi Arachnids,
> 
> I am still waiting for mine

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[lace] Lace Guild Magazine

2013-05-02 Thread Sue Fink
My Lace magazine arrived in my letter box today, in this far flung outpost
of what used to be the Empire!!  In other words, New Zealand!!

 

Well done Lace Guild.

 

Sue Fink,

Masterton,

New Zealand

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Re: [lace] Twinkees

2013-04-30 Thread Sue Harvey
We have a chocolate bar here in the UK called Mars Bar which is chocolate 
covered caramel with a fudge like centre and some people deep fry that also ( 
yuk) 

Sue M Harvey
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> Now the question is "What's a twinkle

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Re: [lace] Peeps bobbins

2013-04-29 Thread Sue Babbs
Thank you for that explanation. I've always wondered but never stopped and
asked before!
Sue


On Mon, Apr 29, 2013 at 3:59 PM,  wrote:

> Sue,
> They are marshmallow figures in shapes of chicks, rabbits and eggs. They
> were originally just chicks in yellow marshmallow. Now they have all
> different shapes and colors to include yellow, pink, blue & green.  They
> are now making them for Christmas in different shapes too.
> Hope this helps.
> Sallie in WY USA
> Sent from my iPhone
>
> On Apr 29, 2013, at 3:45 PM, Sue Babbs  wrote:
>
> > And now you need to explain to those of us who aren't American, what the
> > "peeps" of Easter candy are?  After 13 years of living in IL, I've heard
> > the name , but don't know what it means!
> > Sue
> >
> >
> > On Mon, Apr 29, 2013 at 3:35 PM, Donna Fousek  wrote:
> >
> >> OK ladies and Gents lets fess up. How many of us thought when we read
> the
> >> word "Peeps" of the Easter candy treat painted on bobbins... I did, but
> I
> >> like the sight peep better.
> >>
> >> Donna
> >> near Chicago where spring has finally come.
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Re: [lace] Peeps bobbins

2013-04-29 Thread Sue Babbs
And now you need to explain to those of us who aren't American, what the
"peeps" of Easter candy are?  After 13 years of living in IL, I've heard
the name , but don't know what it means!
Sue


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> OK ladies and Gents lets fess up. How many of us thought when we read the
> word "Peeps" of the Easter candy treat painted on bobbins... I did, but I
> like the sight peep better.
>
> Donna
> near Chicago where spring has finally come.
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Re: [lace] blue film for needlelace

2013-04-24 Thread Sue Harvey
If you cannot find the matt film just buy the cheap shiny stuff and rub all 
over with a pan scrub to take the shine off,hey presto matt film.

Sue M Harvey
Norfolk U.K. 

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Re: [lace] New Website

2013-04-18 Thread Sue Harvey
Congratulations  Catherine on your excellent site, I really enjoyed the way we 
could actually see "work in progress" from start to finished project.

Was the parasol  displayed at the 7 exhibition a few years ago?   I believe it 
was the one we admired when we went to the exhibition.

Sue M Harvey
Norfolk
U.K.

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Re: [lace] lace photos

2013-04-17 Thread Sue Harvey
Thank you Lorelei for sharing, some truly remarkable pieces of lace. In the UK 
we seem not to make such large pieces as your Lacemakers - it was lovely to see 
the jackets in particular.  We seem to have less and less lace days now than we 
had a few years ago, I think it is because so many people buy online supplies 
these days, but that will never beat walking round at a lace day looking at 
other lace and getting ideas for future projects. 

Sue M Harvey
Norfolk
U.K. 

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Re: [lace] lace photos

2013-04-17 Thread Sue Harvey
Thank you Lorelei for sharing, some truly remarkable pieces of lace. In the UK 
we seem not to make such large pieces as your Lacemakers - it was lovely to see 
the jackets in particular.  We seem to have less and less lace days now than we 
had a few years ago, I think it is because so many people buy online supplies 
these days, but that will never beat walking round at a lace day looking at 
other lace and getting ideas for future projects. 

Sue M Harvey
Norfolk
U.K. 

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Re: [lace] Where Have All the Tatters Gone? (digitally)

2013-04-17 Thread Sue Duckles
I'm a tatter and I'm here VBG  Try here: http://www.georgiaseitz.com/

Sue in East Yorkshire
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> Dear Karen,
> 
>> 'Where have all the tatters gone!?'

My Tatty Blog http://pigminitatty.blogspot.co.uk/

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Re: [lace] Sheila Perrin - SMP Lace

2013-04-15 Thread Sue Duckles
Hi Susan

Can you pass on our sincere condolences to the family, maybe via Rosemary?

She was such a wonderful person to talk to about lace, and I'm sure the Lace 
Community will miss her.

Sue in East Yorkshire
On 15 Apr 2013, at 17:13, Susan Roberts wrote:

> This morning I heard from Rosemary Green who had received a call from Julie
> Perrin last night asking that the sad news of her mother’s death be shared
> with the lace world, Sheila Perrin died at Aylesbury hospital on Sunday
> morning.  Russell Perrin has had heart bypass surgery in the last week and was
> in ICU at Harefield Hospital when Julie called Rosemary.
> 
> Rosemary says that there are currently no plans for SMP Lace to cease trading
> though, due to Russell's unexpected illness, there is a temporary suspension
> of the usual service.
> 
> Kind regards
> Susan

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Re: [lace] Cautionary tale

2013-04-15 Thread Sue Duckles
Glory Alex, that could have been a real tears situation!!  The pricking and the 
pillow are probably easier and quicker to replace!!  Good to see it wasn't the 
lace tho

Chat soon

Sue in a sunny but windy East Yorkshire
On 15 Apr 2013, at 09:32, Alex Stillwell wrote:

> Hi Arachnids
> 
> Talking of disasters, I have just taken the last piece of lace for my new book
> off the pillow and as I removed the cover cloth in which the lace was rolled I
> found a large hole in the pricking. During the recent cold weather we have had
> an open wood fire.  I remember the fire spitting but I did not see where the
> ember went; it had lodged between the pricking and the cover cloth while I was
> making the lace and I didn't even notice it. Fortunately it burned into the
> pricking and polystyrene tile, which had a hole 1/2 inch deep, rather than
> into the cloth and lace. So please take care when making lace in front of an
> open wood fire.
> 
> Am I disaster prone?

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Re: [lace] books

2013-04-09 Thread Sue Harvey
I think we would all like to know when it's published, please share

Sue M Harvey
Norfolk
U.K.

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> Just had a look at your books "in the pipeline".
> I hope you will keep us all up-to-date when they will be published,
> 
> 

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Re: [lace] tatting

2013-04-02 Thread Sue Duckles
I agree with Alex Darlene.  I make bobbin lace and am a tatter!  The hardest
bit to 'learn' is how to relax before you 'flip'  Once you've learned it
you'll see what I mean. LOL  If you need some inspiration, try my blog
there are links on there to patterns and if it's one of Jane's follow the
link, and click on home.  She's got basic lessons on there.  I've never met
her, but she's really helpful!!

Sue in East Yorkshire where it's still flipping cold!!




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Re: [lace] kinds of lace

2013-03-28 Thread Sue Harvey
Alice, have you ever tried Carrickmacross, I love it, it's so dainty and quite 
easy, one of my favourites.

Sue M Harvey
Norfolk
U.K.

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Re: [lace] Types of lace

2013-03-28 Thread Sue
I decided not to join in the bookmark exchange this year as I was very busy 
completing some lace I promised my sister over a year ago, now done and 
ready to post:-)   Also I wanted to knit this one cardigan/jacket in peach 
which is about 2 thirds done now.
Have made Torchon, Bucks, Beds, 1 piece of Russian lace but want to do more 
and 2 pieces of Milanese and again want to make more and two small samples 
of Flanders but have never seemed to have time to carry on learning that 
one.  I have knitted since I was little and a friend and I learned to 
crochet in the 70s.   I did a number of lacy shawls in the 70s cardigans and 
I once worked a very pretty lace babies dress in the very early 80's (just 
because I wanted to do it) which won a 2nd place in a local craft show 
before handing it over to my sister in law for her new baby daughter.   I 
would like to learn to do tambour lace as I now have the right things to try 
it, I would like to try needle lace and I want to learn shuttle tatting to a 
point of competency to make little motifs, also improving on my needle 
tatting skills without having to struggle with every move but need more time 
to spend just trying and working at it which seems to escape me at the 
moment.

Sue T Dorset UK


At present I am making my bookmarks ready for the exchange but I am also
making the 'map of the world' from the Eeva-Liisa Kortelahti book 'let's
make bobbin lace'. I'm making it in black and intend to mount it on a
piece of fabric which I will paint in a wash of blue with hints of
browns/greens behind the land masses. It will hang alongside the two
world maps I have already (one in blackwork embroidery and the other
cross stitch).
As for other laces I make or have tried; Torchon, Honiton, Bedfordshire
(not keen), Bucks (I like), Russian tape lace (really enjoyed), a little
Withof (must try more), Bruges flower Lace, Hairpin lace, Needlelace,
Milanese, Miniature laces for my dolls houses and have dabbled with a
little designing. I like to knit and crochet and am very pleased that I
have at last mastered Tatting with the help of You-Tube and so at the
moment spend a fair bit of time practising my tatting techniques
especially trying to get uniform sized picots :-)

Hoping for warmer signs of Spring soon
Celia in SE London where it is cold and grey outside.

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Re: [lace] Nothing on the pillow!

2013-03-28 Thread Sue
Sadly Clay I am in the same position.   I had one new pattern pricked ready 
to begin but feel its not quite right so am going to redraw it (asap) and as 
I dont know how many bobbins I will need I cant even prepare those.   I was 
doing some knitting for me while travelling around to visit my Mother in 
hospital recently and although seriously ill (and my sisters didn't expect 
her to get to her birthday on Monday just gone) she seems to be fighting on, 
:-)  While there she asked me to make her a cardigan like the one I was 
wearing so as I have promised I feel I need to get on with that but need to 
get this one off my needles first before my brain forgets what its doing. 
Working on asap so I can begin on hers.So I am trying to keep my mind 
focused on the knitting but will be happy to return to my pillow as soon as 
I can.  Luckily the lace project can wait, if it must, and I have got on top 
of all the other lace projects I promised myself I would do apart from that 
one so far so must drive myself on with the knitting.   I might have to 
pause and work a couple of small things for my own sanity Noelene  but as 
Mum is now 89 and quite poorly I have to achieve that for her first.

I am enjoying reading your mail as always.
Sue T, Dorset UK, where at last we have a sunny but very chilly day, no snow 
here.
Many people struggling in various areas due to some very freak weather, Huge 
snow drifts in the north and farmers loosing sheep and lambs underneath it 
all which is terrible.



I can't believe this!  I do not have a lace project in progress!  I don't 
know what to do with myself!


I just finished a piece of Milanese, designed by Louise Colgan.   I'll post 
this to Flickr when I can photograph it.   I have a workshop with Vera 
Cockuyt coming up soon, where I'm going to start a Vologda piece, and 
another workshop in May (Tonder), so it doesn't make a lot of sense to start 
something and then get caught up in two other projects. Plus, it's a lot 
easier to store pillows if they're empty!


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Re: [lace] Nothing on the pillow!

2013-03-27 Thread Sue Duckles
Noelene have you been looking at the british weather LOL

I have 3 pillows on the go honiton with a flower that needs the filling
finishing.

Bedfordshire ( the other 2), one's an 'edging of Christine Springetts that
needs LOTS doing, and the other is an oak motif, again by Christine, that just
needs finishing!  Not very good at finishes VBG   Then of course there are
the tatting shuttles yes there's something on the go with those, and a bit
of crochet, and himself's jumper to finish and I've only just started that!!!

Can someone give me an extra 24 hours in a day please?  Then I can finish
everything!! ROTFL

Sue in a cold windy East Yorkshire


On 27 Mar 2013, at 20:47, Noelene Lafferty wrote:

> One of my old poems:
>
> My Sanity
>
> I've been out of sorts just lately
> And feeling rather flat.
> The weather's been appalling
> It's even stopped the cat.


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Re: [lace] Jean-Marie Leclair

2013-03-25 Thread Sue
This lady was born in about 1816 and married in the late 1830s I think.  Her 
sister was also a lacemaker at that time and I am trying to remember if a 
couple of their daughters were lacemakers.   They lived not too far away 
from honiton but of course because of Carol Mcfadgeons (sp) work and books 
we now know there was Devon Trolley lace as well as Hontion lace in that 
area.  No idea what type they did would would love to know.When we went 
to the area looking for their information  with just their names and date of 
birth we were new to the search but when i found the information I was over 
the moon to see lacemaker.   This was 5 years after I began making lace and 
a real connection which this unknown lady who was a relative of my lace 
mother in law.   I later bought the first two of Carols books but have yet 
to try working of the lace which i have promised myself I will.

Sue T Dorset UK

Dear all,
Fascinating topic.  I speak with no authority other than Alex Stillwell told 
me that a woman who was a lacemaker was in high demand as a wife because she 
could bring in extra money.  We must remember that for the lower classes it 
was a hand to mouth existence, and so doing anything that brought 
money/food/shelter to the family could be the difference between success and 
the workhouse.  Lace didn't pay well, but it paid, although probably 
agricultural work paid better for the time spent, so you don't list 
everything you do to make a living, but it doesn't mean you don't do it.  9 
to 5 jobs didn't exist. Lace will wait, can be done in odd moments or bad 
weather, and the equipment doesn't take up a lot of space in a small 
cottage, nor is it a large investment in equipment. Men probably could find 
better paying work than lace in off times, but not necessarily, so it could 
be a good alternative.  For women/mothers, they were more limited because 
they had to be at home with small children.


Lyn in Lancaster, Pennsylvania, USA, where the snow is providing the 
moisture for the spring fertilizing of the lawn.  Spread on dry grass, then 
rain to soak it in.



Sue T. wrote:

A great, g, g grandmother of my DH was down as a lacemaker on her marriage
banns but on all the later census was listed as an agricultural worker
although they had up to 12 children over the years.  Her DH was an
agricultural worker always so do I assume that she brought up the children,
kept house as well as worked on the land some times as well ?At least
one of her daughters was a lacemaker, so I expect mother helped and/or
taught her during her growing years.  What an amazing woman and I expect
that was more the norm than anything unusual in those times.


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Re: [lace] Jean-Marie Leclair

2013-03-25 Thread Sue Harvey
David, did you know that you had ancestors that were Lacemakers before you 
started to make lace , or did you start to make lace after you found out, just 
wondered.

Sue M Harvey
Norfolk
U.K. 

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Re: [lace] Jean-Marie Leclair

2013-03-25 Thread Sue
A great, g, g grandmother of my DH was down as a lacemaker on her marriage 
banns but on all the later census was listed as an agricultural worker 
although they had up to 12 children over the years.  Her DH was an 
agricultural worker always so do I assume that she brought up the children, 
kept house as well as worked on the land some times as well ?At least 
one of her daughters was a lacemaker, so I expect mother helped and/or 
taught her during her growing years.  What an amazing woman and I expect 
that was more the norm than anything unusual in those times.

Sue T Dorset UK

Jane partridge wrote
Until fairly recently men were the breadwinners, working for employers
to keep a roof over their family whilst the women looked after the
house, children, and any animals they kept (for food) - a woman was
expected to give up her employment on marriage.

The middlemen, dealers and most of the designers were male - mainly
because these jobs required some education and families were more likely
to pay to put a son through school than a girl - only a few women (like
Mrs Treadwin) made it to this level.

In message
,
Regina Haring  writes

This raises a question that has always puzzled me - does this truly mean
that the men themselves were lacemakers, or that they were employed in the
business of lace in the sense that they were middlemen who bought lace from
the women who were making it and then re-sold it?


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Re: [lace] Needle lace beginner questions

2013-03-24 Thread Sue Harvey
Although I don't do a lot of needle lace I made a container for mine with a box 
that Badminton shuttlecocks come in from the sports shop. I cut it so it was 9" 
long, Padded it slightly  and covered it with cotton cover, you need only tuck 
the ends inside as the cases come with metal ends that snap in so you can pop 
all the lace, threads etc into either end and snap shut then all is kept clean 
and tidy.  I use thin black elastic over both ends to hold the work while in 
progress. 

Sue M.Harvey
Norfolk
U.K. 

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Re: [lace] jeweled spider pendent

2013-03-23 Thread Sue
I had not been interested in a flash drive (I have one almost never used but 
I have to say we do use DH sometimes but when I went to look there are some 
really beautiful ones.   But having said that I suddenly thought of a few 
times when it might have been very useful, especially if worn as a piece of 
jewellery and not as another piece of technical kit you need to remember to 
carry around with you.  Really lovely.

Still wouldn't manage to have to spider though, Yuck.
Sue T
Dorset UK

Not that I sense any great enthusiasm for the commemorative  flash drive
idea, but it seems that someone has already created a lovely  bejeweled 
spider

pendent that doubles as a flash drive.

_http://usb.brando.com/usb-jewel-spider-necklace-flash-drive_p1986c65d15.htm
l_
(http://usb.brando.com/usb-jewel-spider-necklace-flash-drive_p1986c65d15.html)

There are some others, such as this one,
_http://bedazzledusb.com/index.php?route=product/product&product_id=62_
(http://bedazzledusb.com/index.php?route=product/product&product_id=62)

But I think the first is the most elegant.

Devon

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Re: [lace] Logo

2013-03-22 Thread Sue
Me too, I know its ilogical but although not now quite terrified of them I 
dislike with a passion and wouldn't wear a pin with one on which is sad.

Sue T
Dorset UK

Hi Arachnids,

Would it be possible to make the logo a lace spider rather than one as
realistic looking as the pin in Joy’s scan? I have two friends who get the
heeby-jeebies at the sight of just a picture of a spider, another friend who
is frightened of spiders, and would have to keep that logo under wraps when
they are around. This defeats the object of bringing Arachne to the notice 
of

more lacemakers to enjoy.

Happy lace making,

Joepie, East Sussex, UK

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Re: [lace] French Chateau Lace

2013-03-21 Thread Sue Harvey
This needle lace is truly beautiful, while looking through it I was happy to 
see Chateau de Rambouillet because for many years my home town of Great 
Yarmouth has been twinned with Rambouillet and townsfolk often have exchange 
visits there.

Sue M Harvey
Norfolk 
U.K. 

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Re: [lace] exchange/friendship

2013-03-17 Thread Sue Duckles
Now Janis never mind going to Oz and taking those books with you come 
to the UK and bring them here!!! LOL

We like books over here as well

Sue in a rather damp East Yorkshire
On 17 Mar 2013, at 15:35, Janis Savage wrote:

> Thank you for the mention Mary.
> I am one of the guilty lurkers who do not post to Arachne very often but I 
> have just spent a very pleasant hour reading about 50 Arachne emails on the 
> importance of internet lace friendships amongst other things.
> I agree but, all the regular contributors seem to be so quick off the mark in 
> replying to a query that I usually think that my two-pennorth is not needed.
> Being suitably chastened after Jeri's original post on lurkers versus 
> volunteers, I will try to send my opinion a little more often now.
> By the way, Jenny Koops has now published a book on 25 Bookmarks. Maybe I 
> will put some in my suitcase when I (hopefully) come to Adelaide in 2014. I 
> will need to make some extra money to buy dinkum Aussie lace goods like your 
> cover cloths and aluminium bobbins from Shirley's DH (as if I needed any more 
> bobbins).
> Unfortunately, Mary Hughes who painted those lovely bobbins is not able to do 
> it any more due to advanced age and macular degeneration of her eyes. She 
> still manages to make lace though in an enlarged version using Perle No. 12 
> and her memory of many years of making lace.

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Re: [lace] Horseshoe cover cloths

2013-03-17 Thread Sue Duckles
Hi Peg

Now I could say 'a horse's shoe' but you'd probably throw something over to the 
uk!! LOL

Basically it's a round cover cloth which is about 3/4 of a full circle.  
There's a 'hole' in the middle which makes the fabric look like a very fat 
horse shoe or curvy U shape.  You can frequently get them lightly padded as 
well.  Hope I've made myself clear, because I can see it in my mind 

Sue in East Yorkshire
On 16 Mar 2013, at 23:31, Witchy Woman wrote:

> Catching up on the Arachne archive and came upon your mention of a horseshoe
> shaped cover cloth.  I'm intrigued.
> 
> What exactly does it look like?
> 
> Peg

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Re: [lace] More bobbins

2013-03-17 Thread Sue Duckles
Oh there's a definite difference!!

This made me smile our daughter worked out the difference when she was 
about 3 years old!  'I want those red boots' did her no good whatsoever, so she 
waited till the next time she saw Grandma 'I NEED those red boots to keep 
my toesies nice and warm'!!  She still has a shoe fetish!!! LOL

Now Shirley how dare you drop the rest of us lacemakers in the mire with 
our other halves by saying you don't 'need' more bobbins LOL

Sue in East Yorkshire
On 17 Mar 2013, at 02:30, Elizabeth Ligeti wrote:

> "..who said the she didn't "need" more bobbins..."
> 
> Shirley T should know, by now,  the difference between Need and Want!!  I am
> still trying to teach my DH the difference. He refuses to learn - for some
> strange reason!!!  - especially when there are lace suppliers
> anywhere around!!!  :)
> 
> They are 2 different words with 2 different meanings, Shirley! :)
> 
> Probably Shirley has pillows filled with the beautiful Aluminium bobbins her
> DH makes!

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Re: [lace] If you can still count your bobbins......

2013-03-16 Thread Sue Duckles
Noelene that's BRILLIANT!!

Thanks for the giggle!!

Sue in a damp East yorkshire
On 16 Mar 2013, at 20:28, Noelene Lafferty wrote:

> As I have received a couple of requests for "How Many Bobbins", here it is.
> I hope this works with just line feeds in the right places. 
> I may not have posted it before, it's quite long for one of my poems.
> 
> "How Many Bobbins" by Noelene Lafferty
> 
> A friend asked me once
> 
> With a quizzical air
> "Just how many bobbins are needed?
> If you want to make lace
> And not spend too much cash
> And then they've all got to be beaded."
> 
> I took a deep breath
> And collected my thoughts
> Just how many bobbins' enough?
> I thought of my bobbins
> In boxes and rolls
> Just trying to count would be tough.
> 
> "You need some to start with
> To make bandage strips"
> "Are bobbins that sharp" she did ask.
> I ignored that remark
> And started again
> This would be quite a difficult task
> 
> "To start with you need
> About 20 odd pair"
> "You can't have an odd pair.." "Pipe down"
> "But to move on to bookmarks
> And simple lace edges.. "
> And at this she started to frown.
> 
> "You mean you need lots more
> But how many's enough?"
> There must be a target to aim for.
> Like Miss Channer's Mat
> How many for that?"
> I took another deep breath and said "More".
> 
> "To do Miss Channer's Mat
> You need three hundred or more
> That's pairs, and not for the faint hearted.
> And then you need more
> For the pillows galore
> On which other projects are started."
> 
> My friend looked at me
> With her quizzical air
> "Just how many pillows are needed?
> If you want to make lace
> And not spend too much cash?"
> "I've no answer to that!"  I conceded.
> 
> Noelene in Cooma
> nlaffe...@ozemail.com.au

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Re: [lace] Help me find this book

2013-03-16 Thread Sue Duckles
Hi Jenny

As both a bobbin lacemaker and tatter I can imagine what you thought re your
group member wanting to learn this pattern however, as I own a number of
Christines patterns can I just say that her instructions are VERY detailed and
easy to follow!!  She 'talks' you through every stage!  Also, if you get
stuck, I'm sure she wouldn't mind you emailing her!!

Sorry I don't know what the book is but when you find out can you let the
rest of us know please??

Sue in East Yorkshire
On 16 Mar 2013, at 00:28, Jenny Brandis wrote:

>
> Beginning with Torchon lace I have been slow to put my toe into the water
of
> other types but one of our lace group with just a few months under her belt
> has decided to tackle a beds pattern. Not just a simple plait and picot but
> Christine Springetts Heart insertion
> <http://www.cdspringett.co.uk/acatalog/Lace_Patterns.html>   full on with
> leaves, trail and all and is asking me for help.  EEK

> The pricking I am having a go at was found online - a scan of pages 32 and
> 33  from an unknown book that I now want to find so I can add it to my
> library. There is a lowres  scan on my site and I am asking you to please
> help me to identify the book.
> http://www.brandis.com.au/craft/Lace/201303.html
>

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[lace] - Lurkers vs. Volunteers

2013-03-15 Thread Sue
When I have been struggling with something in lace the people on arachne 
have been wonderful, mostly.   But not all of the answers come through the 
main group, occasional answers, or snippets of information have come through 
directly to me.  Some from very prominent members of Arachne and other times 
from very quiet people who probably dont teach but have that vital piece of 
helpful advice which has been really appreciated.   I think many others have 
been helped in a similar way and on occasion have been able to do our bit in 
helping someone else.
Myself and another arachnid guided and helped find ways to describe how to 
work a certain pattern to a new lady attempting to make lace with no access 
to a teacher and working from books.   To our amazement it worked and she 
continued to work for a couple of years until patchwork took her away from 
lace for now.
So not all would be lurkers are actually taking only, many are giving where 
they can but very quietly in the background.
Not everyone in life is able to pass on their knowledge or even continue 
with this wonderful craft all the time but reading the mail from the group 
is enjoyable mostly anyway.

So to all the arachnids where ever you are I am proud to be of their number.
Sue T
Dorset UK where it is raining heavily and I am off to complete cooking 
dinner



When there are probably less than 50 regular contributors to Arachne,  and
we know that there are another 1,000 or so who are lurking, does  that
matter to you?

Do we have a lot of knowledgeable people out there who are takers,  instead
of sharers?  And do they even care to realize how frustrating  that is for
some of us to contemplate?

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Re: [lace] Straw Plaiters

2013-03-14 Thread Sue
I was born and brought up in Luton during the 50s and hat making was a 
fairly big industry at that time.

My Mum did some piece work in some of my childhood years.
We took my mum for a trip around the museum a couple of years ago, firstly 
on the ground floor to see the lace and then upstairs to see the straw hats 
and other interesting things.


My brother in law was a big time Luton Town Football (The Hatters) supporter 
when he got married in the early 70's and was given a straw boater as a gift 
from the club.

Sue T
now in Dorset UK

I think they made hats.
At the Luton Museum, which I visited for lace purposes, there  was an awful
lot about straw plaiting and the hat industry. In fact, I got the  feeling
that people might move between lace making and straw plaiting depending  on
what was "hot".
Devon


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Dear  Friends,
I'm currently doing some family history research for one of us,  and
find that IF her female relatives were not Lace Makers, then they
were Straw Plaiters.

Can someone please tell me exactly what they  produced? Some of these
were as young as 5 and 7 years of age on the  censuses!!
I'm sure it wasn't all macrame hanging baskets!!

David in  Ballarat, AUS

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Re: [lace] Straw Plaiters

2013-03-13 Thread Sue Harvey
Hallo David, don't know if it is the same thing, but my Gt Aunt Polly made what 
we called straw dollies  which hung in the house and were made with the current 
years straw and replaced the previous years dollies which were then burnt, I 
think it was something to do with getting a good crop the next year, they were 
quite complicated things to make as I recall.
Sue M Harvey
Norfolk
U.K. 

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Re: [lace-chat] Re: [lace] Re: Erica McLeod

2013-03-01 Thread Sue Babbs

Ian
I, too, am saddened to hear of Erica's death. We had lost contact after your 
move from Christchurch. Erica was most helpful to me on several occasions, 
and I greatly enjoyed all e-conversations with her. She was very kind and 
went out of her way to find answers to my questions


Sue (and Englishwoman living near Chicago, USA)

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