[lace] lacemakers in Minnesota
Hi Dagmar, I saw your message on Arachne. I helped start the Minnesota Lace Society in 1977, and they are still going strong. They have a web site: http://www.minnlacesociety.org/ I am sure they can answer any of your questions. There is extensive lacemaking history in Minnesota, especially in New Ulm, and also on the Red Lake Indian reservation where Sibyl Carter was most active. The Minneapolis Institute of Arts has an extensive collection of lace, with an exciting history of how it was formed. I also understand that there is a new 'Lake of the Woods' organization, but that may be only in Canada. Unfortunately I moved away from Minnesota in 1985. Now all I do is take a lot of heat for buying expensive lace books on Ebay. Laurie - To unsubscribe send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] containing the line: unsubscribe lace [EMAIL PROTECTED] For help, write to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
[lace] BRUSSELS POINT DE GAZE LACE PANEL -- eye candy
This piece has been posted on Ebay before - no takers. Maria is trying to ride the momentum from the $6600 'Point de Gaze' (spelling varies) bridal veil that sold on October 18th. The present piece is beautifully worked, and is obviously from a first-rate shop, as shown by the solid multi-layer petal roses. However it's extremely difficult to tell what this piece started out as, and it has some additions that are hard to explain. In buying a piece like this, condition is everything for a collector. Chances are hight it will probably be purchased by some courtier who will cut it up to fit somebody's wedding dress. There's an exceptional piece people should watch, #7377399970. 6 meters of Point de Gaze edging with a design well above average. And, a very good fan, 8367650565. Date: Thu, 29 Dec 2005 10:10:55 -0800 (PST) From: Alice Howell <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Subject: [lace] extreme eye candy While I normally put eBay items on Chat, this piece is definitely high quality Lace -- yours for only $3995.00. (Sigh) http://cgi.ebay.com/EXQUISITE-19THC-BRUSSELS-POINT-DE-GAZE-LACE-PANEL_W0QQite mZ7377739271 - To unsubscribe send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] containing the line: unsubscribe lace [EMAIL PROTECTED] For help, write to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
[lace] Mozart's mother (or grandmother) possibly made lace!
You can see the portrait at http://www.edto.net/mozart_life.htm -- Date: Wed, 22 Mar 2006 20:49:34 -0500 From: Susan Lambiris <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Subject: [lace] Mozart's mother (or grandmother) possibly made lace! In the recently published book "Mozart's Women," the statement is made that Mozart's mother (or his grandmother) may have made lace. Since Salzburg was an established lace-making area, she had a delicate constitution (lacemaking was thought to be something those of delicate health could do) and she and her widowed mother received a charity pension (lacemaking was often taught by charity institutions to people in just such situations) it seems a reasonable supposition to me. Certainly the only surviving portrait of her shows her brandishing a length of lace (not mounted in any way,though evidently an edging) with an expression that could easily be interpreted as "Look at this beautiful thing I did", or perhaps "Look how far I've mananged to come from this!" It gives me a new and pleasant sidelight into the matter of Salzburg lace. Sue from Raleigh (where spring is regressing into winter again, at least briefly!) - - To unsubscribe send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] containing the line: unsubscribe lace [EMAIL PROTECTED] For help, write to [EMAIL PROTECTED] -- End of lace-digest V2006 #90 - To unsubscribe send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] containing the line: unsubscribe lace [EMAIL PROTECTED] For help, write to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
[lace] Mozart's mother (or grandmother) possibly made lace!
"Stitches in Air: A Novel About Mozart's Mother", by Liane Ellison Norman was published in 2001 by Smoke and Mirrors Press. It is based on this portrait, and builds a whole fictional story about the possibility that Mozart's mother was a lacemaker. It's pretty hard to find now. -- Date: Wed, 22 Mar 2006 20:49:34 -0500 From: Susan Lambiris <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Subject: [lace] Mozart's mother (or grandmother) possibly made lace! In the recently published book "Mozart's Women," the statement is made that Mozart's mother (or his grandmother) may have made lace. Since Salzburg was an established lace-making area, she had a delicate constitution (lacemaking was thought to be something those of delicate health could do) and she and her widowed mother received a charity pension (lacemaking was often taught by charity institutions to people in just such situations) it seems a reasonable supposition to me. Certainly the only surviving portrait of her shows her brandishing a length of lace (not mounted in any way,though evidently an edging) with an expression that could easily be interpreted as "Look at this beautiful thing I did", or perhaps "Look how far I've mananged to come from this!" It gives me a new and pleasant sidelight into the matter of Salzburg lace. Sue from Raleigh (where spring is regressing into winter again, at least briefly!) - - To unsubscribe send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] containing the line: unsubscribe lace [EMAIL PROTECTED] For help, write to [EMAIL PROTECTED] -- End of lace-digest V2006 #90 - To unsubscribe send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] containing the line: unsubscribe lace [EMAIL PROTECTED] For help, write to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
[lace] plays about lace
There is an operetta specifically about lacemaking, in french, called "La Legende du Point d'Argentan", written around 1906 by Felix Fourdrain (his first major work, he was a student of Massenet). It was written for the Paris Opera Comique and performed for a limited time. It was also made into a silent movie, the only existing copy of which that I know about is in Australia. Here in Los Alamos we are going to have a lace exhibition in December 2007, and plan to perform this work - probably the first time it's been done since the last performance in 1907. On the 100th anniversary. We are involving the Los Alamos Light Opera, and some of the singers perform regularly with the Santa Fe Opera. If you want to know what it's about, come see the performance. Another work, also in French, Le Miracle des Fuseaux, by Genevieve Hennet de Goutel. There's a copy for sale on the web, but the seller won't answer my emails. Laurie - To unsubscribe send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] containing the line: unsubscribe lace [EMAIL PROTECTED] For help, write to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
[lace] Needlelace theory
Having done a etage at the Atelier National du Point d'Alencon in 1980, where I made a 1" square piece of lace that took 40 hours to complete, let me say that I disagree completely with the statement that needlelace made today with bigger threads is easier. There were 5 weights of thread in my sample, and two weights of horsehair. They used only the very finest thread, no longer made. I didn't need glasses, although all the other workers used them (which was through quite remarkable - I can't do it now). It was far easier to work with the fine thread than I ever expected. The thread itself was so limp and pliable that it just fell into place naturally - it was an absolute joy to work with. I've long had a big gripe with the way most people do needlelace today, it speaks to a total lack of knowledge how manufacturing of large pieces in an industrial setting evolved the most highly effecient needlelace stitches. Nowhere will you find professional working with the needle pointing toward the body. The needle pulls away from the body, and every finger, every joint, even the fingernails have their assigned place and function. When I visited Jesurum in Venice, they made a big point about telling me how the old factories even selected workers based on similar physical characteristics to do similar jobs in the making and assembly of needlelace. The stitches have evolved for maximum ease of execution, speed, and consistency from stitch to stitch. The point d'gaz mesh is a perfect example - exactly the same loop for the mesh is made going left as going right. This results in the twist on one row and twist-and-a-half on the next row, it's actually astounding in its effeciency. There are a few very old works that address these issues, mainly in German. Virtually no modern writers (Brigitte Delesque-Depalle, who was studing at Alencon at the same time I was, is a rare exception), understands this and puts it down on paper. Agnes Stevens and Irma D'hooge-Boone for Zele lace (which I also visited and learned to make) is also an extremely good writer. The pillow needlelace of burano is also an excellent example of how efficient stitches have evolved. There is a real need for a comprehensive work on Burano needlelace technique - Vima Micheli has a few publications, but they aren't widely known. I find most modern needlelace poorly made - without the technical understanding of stitch construction, things start to look twisted and lumpy - problems which could easily be corrected with a little attention to the fundamentals. I've had a book on the 'technical history of needlelace' in progress for years. Maybe I'll finish it now. Laurie - To unsubscribe send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] containing the line: unsubscribe lace [EMAIL PROTECTED] For help, write to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
[lace] Building a catalog in Excel -> html
My EXCEL spreadsheet on bobbin and needlelace references now has 5828 entries. The items I record for each work are: Author Title Publication date Language Media Numberd pages Category Type ISBN Editor or Curator Publication Series Publisher Printed by Copyright information I have a multipage guide as to how things should be added to the spreadsheet, with further explanations of the items above. Personally, I favor Filemaker Pro for the search function - it can read in EXCEL spreadsheets and has a flexible search option. If anyone wants a copy of the bibliography, I'll be happy to send you one. Laurie Waters - To unsubscribe send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] containing the line: unsubscribe lace [EMAIL PROTECTED] For help, write to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
[lace] Regional lacemaking in Art Nouveau time -- thoughts
Please don't forget the extensive work of Alan Summerly Cole (http://www.whistler.arts.gla.ac.uk/biog/Cole_AS.htm), who corresponded with William Morris and was a close friend of Whistler. He is a seriously neglected, but extremely important author on lace, specializing in the Irish lacemaking industry. He visited Ireland to report on conditions of the lacemakers at the request of the British government, and under his influence, designs at places like Youghal greatly improved. He wrote the chapter on lace in "Arts and Crafts Essays by Members of the Arts and Crafts Exhibition Society", which went through 3 English and 1 German edition. Currently I have 49 references in my lace bibliography to his written works on lace, and there are more I don't list on embroidery and tapestry . They all relate to Irish lacemaking, or to catalogs of works at the South Kensington Musem (now the V&A), where he was Assistant Secretary to his father, who was the first director. > One thing I can't figure out is why the Art Nouveau and the Craftsman > movement which produced Modernista lace in Spain, Aemilia Ars in Italy > and > the laces of the Weiner Werkstatte and the Industrial schools of the > countries > of the Austro-Hungarian Empire seem to have passed by the laces of the > British Isles so completely. - To unsubscribe send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] containing the line: unsubscribe lace [EMAIL PROTECTED] For help, write to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
[lace] Is this real?
Anyone like to venture an opinion as to the authenticity of this Ebay item? http://cgi.ebay.com/RARE-ANTIQUE-LACEMAKERS-CANDLE-STOOL-BOBBINS-LACE_W0QQite mZ190085118665QQihZ009QQcategoryZ106159QQrdZ1QQcmdZViewItem - To unsubscribe send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] containing the line: unsubscribe lace [EMAIL PROTECTED] For help, write to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
[lace] What is this?
Regarding Ebay item 180095053499 Does this look like a bobbin winder to anyone? Thanks, Laurie - To unsubscribe send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] containing the line: unsubscribe lace [EMAIL PROTECTED] For help, write to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
[lace] What is this?
Regarding Ebay item 180095053499 Does this look like a bobbin winder to anyone? Thanks, Laurie - To unsubscribe send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] containing the line: unsubscribe lace [EMAIL PROTECTED] For help, write to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
[lace] stuff on Ebay
Over the next few days I'm putting up some lace-related items from my collection on Ebay if anyone's interested. Spring housecleaning. Look under lswaters, I think you can search at: http://search.ebay.com/_W0QQsassZlswatersQQhtZ-1 Thanks, Laurie - To unsubscribe send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] containing the line: unsubscribe lace [EMAIL PROTECTED] For help, write to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
[lace] The Lace Maker
Found this wandering through the web - very interesting. http://www.rawvision.com/back/lacemaker/lacemaker.html - To unsubscribe send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] containing the line: unsubscribe lace [EMAIL PROTECTED] For help, write to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
[lace] ebay books
FYI, and I apologize for this, but just wanted people to know that I've got two more listings of lace books that I'm selling from my collection on Ebay (check on lswaters). Won't be selling any more until at least next year, after my exhibition ends in February. Thanks, Laurie - To unsubscribe send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] containing the line: unsubscribe lace [EMAIL PROTECTED] For help, write to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
[lace] Ebay item 270139922469
Does anyone have an idea what this might be? The listing says "fer a coque de dentelliere". Thanks, Laurie - To unsubscribe send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] containing the line: unsubscribe lace [EMAIL PROTECTED] For help, write to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
[lace] information?
Does anyone know if it is possible to purchase a lace pillow of the type used for Tignes or Cogne lace? These are the narrow width, large diameter hollow hoop-type pillows used with 'freehand' lace. Thanks, Laurie - To unsubscribe send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] containing the line: unsubscribe lace [EMAIL PROTECTED] For help, write to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: [lace] information?
Hmmm, something to think about. I did just find a Coop. Les Dentellières de Cogne Rue Doct. Grappein, 50 11012 COGNE (AO) Téléphone:0165.749282 and thought they might be able to help. But I don't speak Italian or French good enough for a phone call. Is there anyone on the list who might be able to help with a phone call??? Thanks! Laurie - Original Message - From: "Jo Falkink" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: "Laurie Waters" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>; "arachne" Sent: Saturday, July 07, 2007 1:49 AM Subject: Re: [lace] information? Perhaps make one yourself? The hardest part would be the core. Wind it tightly wind a too hot washsed and dried (to felt it) woolen blanket, or undercarpet of natuaral fibers. A cover cloth with a tight rope through the seams on either side. does that make any sense? Jo from the Netherlands Does anyone know if it is possible to purchase a lace pillow of the type used for Tignes or Cogne lace? These are the narrow width, large diameter hollow hoop-type pillows used with 'freehand' lace. Thanks, Laurie - To unsubscribe send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] containing the line: unsubscribe lace [EMAIL PROTECTED] For help, write to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
[lace] Bobbin maker attribution on Ebay
There is a nice bone bobbin on ebay 220138516687 which is attributed to maker David Haskins. The seller has several other bobbins up for sale attributed to specific old makers. I just wrote to her asking how she could be so sure of the maker, and she said that she's relying on the Springett book "Success to the Lace Pillow". An excellent work, and I'm sure the Springetts have done their work very well. I haven't looked in detail at their description, but I'm sure the seller has. But I have a larger question. Bobbins aren't signed and she seems to be guessing that this is a Haskins bobbin based on the Springett book. Shouldn't this item, and similar ones, be marked as 'in the style of Haskins', with the Springett book given as a reference? Or something like that? It may be a perfect attribution for all I know, but then again it might be someone copying Haskins or a modern reproduction - fakers can be extremely clever. Without a more specific provinance, I don't see how this attribution can be listed. I'd like opinions before writing to her again, or maybe even to Ebay officials. This isn't the first seller that I have seen do this. Thanks, Laurie - To unsubscribe send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] containing the line: unsubscribe lace [EMAIL PROTECTED] For help, write to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: [lace] Bobbin maker attribution on Ebay
Hi Carol, Interesting. I was going to reply to your hanging bobbin post but got distracted. I actually bought a Worsley hanging bobbin last year from the same seller you were writing about. However, it says "W. Worsley Hung 1868" (first name not spelled out). Somebody said that there were only 10 of these made - I think that's wrong, this was actually one of the most common hanging bobbins, and as a special collector's item it might not be too surprising to see 3 of them show up within one year. Especially when major dealers tend to buy complete collections for resale. And if people think that bobbins aren't worth faking, I suggest you read the Lovejoy mystery series - in at least 2 of the books that I can remember you will find him faking lace bobbins. Wonderful series about an unscrupulous antiques dealer which was made into a TV series a few years ago. As I said before, the bobbins for sale may be absolutely, wonderfully correct. Or they may be old, but by another maker. Or maybe not. They are good enough that I'm not through trying for them. But if she had said something like - "based on the characteristics described by Springett (and give details), I am of the opinion that this is a Haskell bobbin", I would be much happier. Laurie - To unsubscribe send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] containing the line: unsubscribe lace [EMAIL PROTECTED] For help, write to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
[lace] Pag lace
Does anyone know where examples of Pag lace can be purchased? Thanks, Laurie - To unsubscribe send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] containing the line: unsubscribe lace [EMAIL PROTECTED] For help, write to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
[lace] Handmade Lace: From Fine Art to Folk Art, exhibition in Los Alamos, New Mexico
I'm having an exhibition of my lace collection, December 2nd through the 29th at the Los Alamos, New Mexico Mesa Library in their Upstairs Art Gallery. I'm showing about 100 pieces of lace, mostly needle and bobbin, from my collection, which I have been working on for about 40 years. Pieces span from the 16th century to modern day. Also included are 28 bobbin and needlelace pillows, 13 (and growing) bobbin winders from around the world, coins, medals, dolls, stamps, lacemaking accessories (e.g., lamps, pillow stands, and more). This exhibit has been in the planning for almost 2 years. Los Alamos is about 35 miles north of Santa Fe. I'm also lecturing on lace collecting at the Wheelwright Museum on December 2nd, which is just down the road from the Folk Art Museum in Santa Fe. Thanks! Laurie - To unsubscribe send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] containing the line: unsubscribe lace [EMAIL PROTECTED] For help, write to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
[lace] Los Alamos event-From Fine Art to Folk Art
As part of the Los Alamos Exhibition we were planning to revive the 100 year old opera, "La Legende de la Point d'Argentan", but are having trouble finding the full score. I have a piano score, so we are trying to arrange something. Stay tuned. Laurie - To unsubscribe send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] containing the line: unsubscribe lace [EMAIL PROTECTED] For help, write to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
[lace] lace exhibition - query re: coins & medals
Hi Nicky, Wish you could come! Santa Fe is quite festive around Christmas. There are quite a few things available for collectors. Belgium and France (Le Puy, specifically) both issued paper money with engravings of lacemakers. Malta issued a 5 Lm (no sure what currency that is) silver coin showing a lacemaker in 1984 commerating the United Nations Decade for Women. Commerative medals have been issued by several companies - there is a large and a small one from Alencon, one from Le Puy, and one issued in the 1930's by the French artist Cochet. The Franklin Mint issued a silver medal of Vermeer's The Lacemaker in 1974. There are a few others, but these are the main ones. Then there are the English lace tokens. They were issued by either private businesses or local towns when legal coinage ran short. There were basically two periods when this was done, one in the late 17th century, one in the 19th century. Thomas Wright's The Romance of the Lace Pillow has a good listing of these. I have examples of all of these in the exhibition. Laurie - Original Message - From: "nicky.h-townsend" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Sent: Thursday, October 11, 2007 2:18 AM Subject: lace exhibition - query re: coins & medals Hi Laurie Just read about your planned exhibition, sounds absolutely wonderful, not surprised that it has taken two years of planning - not too mention a lot of hard work as well. What caught my attention though was the inclusion of coins and medals are they lace related - I'd love to know more about them if they are please. Great shame that I live the other side of the globe and won't be able to make the exhibition but I wish you every success with it and also your lecture. best wishes Nicky in Suffolk England - To unsubscribe send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] containing the line: unsubscribe lace [EMAIL PROTECTED] For help, write to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
[lace] Opinions?
Can anyone identify this lace on Ebay #180169665519 It says it is silk. Thanks. Laurie - To unsubscribe send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] containing the line: unsubscribe lace [EMAIL PROTECTED] For help, write to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
[lace] Princess Lace Machine
Take a look at the Princess Lace Machine that just sold on Ebay 330170130257 It's in the most perfect condition I've ever seen. - To unsubscribe send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] containing the line: unsubscribe lace [EMAIL PROTECTED] For help, write to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: [lace] Princess Lace Machine
It doesn't really matter whether they were good to use or not. The German Rassmussen pillow, of which this is almost a direct copy (along with most of the patterns), was just as hard to use. The point is that The Torchon Lace Company, product of Sylvester Lewis, was the first and only commercial attempt at marketing bobbinlace to American women through early 20th century advertising. And the enterprise lasted from 1904 to 1919 - one even finds examples sold in Australia. His 'paint by numbers' patterns was also not unique - I've seen this in earlier French works. Who knows if he ever came through on his promise to buy the lace that these machines would produce? All in all this was a totally impractical system. Typically American! Nothing like it before, although one might argue that his contemporary Cottrell in France came close. And so, many of these machines survive, and more and more are showing up on Ebay. 30 years ago, if we found one in an antique shop, it was a very lucky find. I predict the price will remain in this range for a long time to come. And even higher prices realized for the much rarer Australian version. Laurie - Original Message - From: "Annette Meldrum" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: "'Carol Adkinson'" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>; "'Laurie Waters'" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>; "'arachne'" Sent: Saturday, October 20, 2007 3:17 PM Subject: RE: [lace] Princess Lace Machine Carol, Laurie and all, The thing is that these pillows were not very efficient to use. I feel that the price is over the top. The other thing to note is that they are not a rare find. There are lots of them around still, most hardly used! The Lace Guild in NSW has 2 in their Collection, both donated. Both came with the patterns and bobbins and original instruction book. Regards Annette in Wollongong Australia where we are set for another sunny and warm day. -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Carol Adkinson Sent: Sunday, 21 October 2007 6:05 AM To: Laurie Waters; arachne Subject: Re: [lace] Princess Lace Machine Laurie et al, I have looked at the pictures, and the pillow seems to be in good order but ... Can a lace pillow really be worth all that amount of money?... but some of my roller pillows would, I am sure, be just as efficient. So - please tell me what I have obviously missed - maybe I am just a tad dimmer than the average... Carol - in Suffolk UK - Original Message - From: "Laurie Waters" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: "arachne" Sent: Saturday, October 20, 2007 7:47 PM Subject: [lace] Princess Lace Machine Take a look at the Princess Lace Machine that just sold on Ebay 330170130257 It's in the most perfect condition I've ever seen. - To unsubscribe send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] containing the line: unsubscribe lace [EMAIL PROTECTED] For help, write to [EMAIL PROTECTED] - To unsubscribe send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] containing the line: unsubscribe lace [EMAIL PROTECTED] For help, write to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
[lace] Wendy Lawton Bobbin Lace
Wendy Lawton's Bobbin Lace doll is up for sale on Ebay 260179193786 - To unsubscribe send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] containing the line: unsubscribe lace [EMAIL PROTECTED] For help, write to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
[lace] Traditional Spanish Lace pillow and stand
Does anyone know a place where it is possible to purchase a traditional Spanish lace pillow, stuffed with rye straw, and the stand, as is shown in the first picture on Antje Gonzalez's web site http://es.geocities.com/antiluchi/almohadilla.htm She has directions for making a pillow, but they start out in English and turn into Spanish - maybe someone could translate fully? I've got some problems (like no straw in the middle of the desert) in making pillows, and would really like to try to purchase a really well made traditional one. She mentions shops in Catalonia, but I can't find anything on the web. Does anyone have suggestions? (or maybe an old one for sale in good condition...) I tried looking at the REALCE site http://www.realce.es/realce/index.html, they have a stand and lots of really cool smaller pillows, but their large rectangular pillows seem to be filled with styrofoam or something. I tried to write to Antje at the address given on the web site, but it bounces [EMAIL PROTECTED] Seems to be an internet provider that mine doesn't recognize. Does anyone have a different address for her? Thanks, Laurie - To unsubscribe send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] containing the line: unsubscribe lace [EMAIL PROTECTED] For help, write to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
[lace] Lace making dome on ebay
Does anyone have any idea what this might be? Ebay 180208679588 Doesn't look like it has anythig to do with lace, but I might be missing something. Laurie - To unsubscribe send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] containing the line: unsubscribe lace [EMAIL PROTECTED] For help, write to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
[lace] What is it?
Anybody have any idea what item 290209323102 on Ebay is? Laurie - To unsubscribe send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] containing the line: unsubscribe lace [EMAIL PROTECTED] For help, write to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
[lace] lace on Ebay
I'm putting up some items from my lace collection and some lace books (see 130215083614 for example) if anyone is interested. Will take me a few days to get everything up. Thanks for reading my shameless promotion... Laurie - To unsubscribe send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] containing the line: unsubscribe lace [EMAIL PROTECTED] For help, write to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
[lace] Pag needlelace
Does anyone know where one can buy examples of Pag needlelace? Or does anyone have a nice example they would be willing to sell? Thanks, Laurie - To unsubscribe send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] containing the line: unsubscribe lace [EMAIL PROTECTED] For help, write to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
[lace] lacemakers in Portugal
I'm going to be in Portugal from May 10th to the 20th. Does anyone know of any lacemakers or shops or similar things that might be visited in Portugal? Thanks, Laurie - To unsubscribe send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] containing the line: unsubscribe lace [EMAIL PROTECTED] For help, write to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
[lace] Lace in Portugal
Just back from Portugal, and visited both Via do Conde and Peniche. Unfortunately the school in Via do Conde was closed on the Saturday that I went, but the handicrafts shop around the corner had lots of lace and lacemaking equipment. Picked up some nice pieces and also a huge Portugese bolster pillow with the tubular hollow center, bobbins, a beautiful wooden floor stand for the pillow, and a book on Via do Conde lace (excellent glossary with Portugese lacemaking terms). It was an adventure getting the pillow through customs on the way back, but at least saved the shipping costs. The center in Peniche was open with about 10 women working when I visited. Got lots of photos and some really beautiful pieces. There's a wonderful lace that I was told was a typical Peniche type - sort of a Torchon/Cluny combined, lots of small tallies. The square piece I bought took 2 months to complete, and it was my great honor to be able to pay the maker directly. The center also had a book specifically on Peniche lace, again with patterns. I was really impressed with the quality of work that they were doing, and also with the amount of contemporary designs for sale. They also had some great large Torchon-type pieces made with very fine thread. Both these seaside towns are very beautiful - wouldn't mind staying in either for a few days. All of this will go into my lace exhibition, which is now scheduled to open in Los Alamos July 5th. Thanks to everyone who gave me suggestions of where to visit in Portugal! Laurie - To unsubscribe send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] containing the line: unsubscribe lace [EMAIL PROTECTED] For help, write to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
[lace] one more thing on Portugal
Gas was about $8.50/gallon. - To unsubscribe send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] containing the line: unsubscribe lace [EMAIL PROTECTED] For help, write to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
[lace] Ebay item
I wrote to the seller asking for clarification about the leather, and if he had any pictures taken from the side to see if there is a ratchet system. My poor copy of Kloppel/kissen/stander is almost worn out because I use it so much, but it doesn't illustrate something exactly like this; and no mention of a leather cover. It does seem to be fastened fairly permanently to the stand. Le Puy pillows are occasionally covered with leather; makes a nice bouncy surface for the bobbins. There is another 'leather and lace' item on Ebay just now; a leather pillow advertised as Belgian - 310053688931 - would appreciate comments. I've never seen a leather covered pillow like this before, but there are precedents for the general form in Belgium. I always get a little suspicious when I see upholstery tacks so close together - might be a backfitted item. But someone has used it to make lace. Laurie - To unsubscribe send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] containing the line: unsubscribe lace [EMAIL PROTECTED] For help, write to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
[lace] Saba lace?
Anyone want to hazard a guess if this ebay item 250262902713 is Saba lace? Thanks, Laurie - To unsubscribe send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] containing the line: unsubscribe lace [EMAIL PROTECTED] For help, write to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
[lace] Lace Exhibition in Los Alamos
After three days of installation, my lace exhibition is finally up in Los Alamos, New Mexico. 98 pieces of lace are on display dating from the mid 16th century to about a month ago. I also have 36 bobbinlace pillows (3 more to come) on display, 2 needlelace pillows, and 17 bobbin winders. There are also many figures, including Flemish pottery Belgian pieces, French Santons, Spanish dancing dolls, and many others. Plus lots of miscellaneous stuff. My thanks to everyone who helped with this (especially the New Mexico Enchanted Lacers; Laura Sandison in particular, and the Los Alamos Embroidery Guild). Finally got this off the ground after a 7 month rescheduling due to my broken ankle complications. Here's information on hours: Handmade Lace: From Fine Art to Folk Art Mesa Public Library Gallery 2400 Central Avenue Los Alamos, New Mexico July 5-August 2, 2008 Exhibit on view during regular library hours: Monday through Thursday, 10 AM to 9 PM Friday 10 AM to 6 PM Saturday 10 AM to 5 PM Sunday 12 PM to 5 PM Hands-on demonstration by the Albuquerque Enchanted Lacers on Saturday, July 12th Hope you can come! Thanks, Laurie - To unsubscribe send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] containing the line: unsubscribe lace [EMAIL PROTECTED] For help, write to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
[lace] stretchy kat stitch
I recently bought a nice piece on Ebay: 160255127859 (although the condition isn't as nice a the picture in the rest of the piece, but that's OK). This kind of lace is difficult to place; it was made in several countries and there are documented sample books in France showing it goes back to the late 18th century. Even Ipswich shows similar designs. But it is almost always attributed to Bucks. But that's not the question here. I mounting this piece I notice something I've seen before but now would like your opinion on. The lace won't lay flat, although obviously it was made flat. The kat stitch contracts a bit, and the point ground lays flat. This gathers the lace into a nice ruffle. It does not appear to ever have been washed. So I'm wondering if this is intentional. I haven't seen it in laces like point de paris, although that's usually made entirely with the cinq trous ground, so you wouldn't expect it. It seems to be only this combination of kat and point grounds on opposite sides.Thanks, Laurie - To unsubscribe send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] containing the line: unsubscribe lace [EMAIL PROTECTED] For help, write to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: [lace] stretchy kat stitch
There's a good picture of Kat stitch on http://www.sandbenders.demon.co.uk/bobbinlace/bucksint.htm It's the same stich used in Point de Paris and other similar laces - makes a 6 pointed star. Different variations have different numbers of twists in the pairs. Yes, the photo is down, I'll see if I can find something similar. Laurie - Original Message - From: "Jenny Brandis" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: "'Laurie Waters'" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>; "'arachne'" Sent: Sunday, July 20, 2008 3:48 PM Subject: RE: [lace] stretchy kat stitch What is kat stitch? The ebay member has taken the photos down so I could not look to see. Jenny Brandis Kununurra, Western Australia [EMAIL PROTECTED] www.brandis.com.au -Original Message- From: Of Laurie Waters The kat stitch contracts a bit, and the point ground lays flat. This gathers the lace into a nice ruffle. - To unsubscribe send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] containing the line: unsubscribe lace [EMAIL PROTECTED] For help, write to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
[lace] Belgian square pillow question
The old Belgian square pillows come in two parts - a main base, and a part that attaches to either the top or the bottom. There are usually a side drawer in the base, and an end drawer at the end of the base pillow part. The attachment has 2 wooden pegs that fit into holes in the top or bottom. One might think that you would just work the lace onto the attachment at the bottom, take it out and it fits onto the top so you can keep working. But this won't work, the pegs are in the wrong place. You'd have to turn the attachment around to get it to fit. So what exactly is this attachment for? How do you move the lace on the pillow? Laurie - To unsubscribe send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] containing the line: unsubscribe lace [EMAIL PROTECTED] For help, write to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
[lace] what is it?
Anyone have any idea what this item is on Ebay? 130274106618 - To unsubscribe send email to majord...@arachne.com containing the line: unsubscribe lace y...@address.here. For help, write to arachnemodera...@yahoo.com
[lace] Bertha Pappenheim
I just bought a book called "Spitzen und so Weiter" (Lace and So On), it's the catalog of the exhibition of Bertha Pappenheim's lace collection at the MAK - Österreichisches Museum fuer angewandte Kunst/Gegenwartskunst in Vienna. I think the exhibition ran until last March. Pappenheim was a suffragette and philanthropist, but is most famous for being "Anna O", a famous psycoanalysis patient of Freud. Now I don't have much regard for psycoanalysis, and can't speak to Pappenheim's state of mind, but I know from personal experience that collecting lace can drive you crazy. And the better the lace is, the worse you get. She must have been in very bad shape, because her lace is absolutely amazing. Everyone interesting in collecting lace should get this catalog. Laurie - To unsubscribe send email to majord...@arachne.com containing the line: unsubscribe lace y...@address.here. For help, write to arachnemodera...@yahoo.com
[lace] Question
Does anyone know who manages the site: http://blog.seniorennet.be/kantklossen/ and how to get in contact with him/her? It's been too many years since I studied Dutch. Thanks, Laurie - To unsubscribe send email to majord...@arachne.com containing the line: unsubscribe lace y...@address.here. For help, write to arachnemodera...@yahoo.com
[lace] help with translation
Could someone help me with a translation of some handwritten lines in Flemish? The writing is a bit messy, so I'm not sure what to put in a translator like Babelfish. Thanks, Laurie - To unsubscribe send email to majord...@arachne.com containing the line: unsubscribe lace y...@address.here. For help, write to arachnemodera...@yahoo.com
[lace] What is is?
I give up. What is ebay item 120365023152? - To unsubscribe send email to majord...@arachne.com containing the line: unsubscribe lace y...@address.here. For help, write to arachnemodera...@yahoo.com
[lace] Idrija lace pillow and basket on Ebay
Take a look at ebay #260357513756 I just bought 2 pillows from her, and she sent me this message: I made them myself. I came from Idrija, Slovenia, a town with a 400+ year tradition of lace making. They are made the way my mother and grandmother used to make them. Sawdust came from a local PA carpenter: it's dry, clean, and very fine - just the way it should be. Let me know if you have any other questions. Sincerely, Leonida Leonida Rutar The quality of these pillows is extremely high. Basically impossible to find in the US, and I haven't located a source in Europe (at least one in a language that I know). The last set before these that I saw on Ebay was several years ago. Please encourage her in her business. Laurie - To unsubscribe send email to majord...@arachne.com containing the line: unsubscribe lace y...@address.here. For help, write to arachnemodera...@yahoo.com
[lace] "Ipswich" bobbin winder on Ebay
Take a look at this bobbin winder on Ebay 110385490635. I'll call it English (how it ended in Ipsich, if indeed it ever did we'll never know) It doesn't look right. The wear and finish don't seem right. And the handle on the wheel seems to be on the wrong side, with no way of getting it on the other side. Opinions? Maybe one should be suspicious of things bought at flea markets. On the other hand, this seller's Spanish mundillo seems OK, and I really like the pillow with ring stand, which I think is German. Laurie - To unsubscribe send email to majord...@arachne.com containing the line: unsubscribe lace y...@address.here. For help, write to arachnemodera...@yahoo.com
[lace] "Ipswich" bobbin winder
It went for $2,900. This piece is just wrong. Handle not on the right side. Cup looks replaced. 18th century bobbin winders are normally much bettered finished, and also usually have spoked wheels. But I'm sure someone will be very happy with it. Laurie - To unsubscribe send email to majord...@arachne.com containing the line: unsubscribe lace y...@address.here. For help, write to arachnemodera...@yahoo.com
[lace] Smelly books smelly lace
Related topic - I bought nice large border of Spanish Almagro lace once, looked great in the photo. But when I unpacked it I was hit by an overwhelming smell of lavender perfume. Someone must have soaked the thing in it. On the advice of a friend I wrapped the lace in a few layers of newspaper for about a week, protected by a thin layer of tissue. The carbon in the ink absorbed the odor. It worked perfectly - amazing. Laurie - To unsubscribe send email to majord...@arachne.com containing the line: unsubscribe lace y...@address.here. For help, write to arachnemodera...@yahoo.com
[lace] Ebay item 180391829649
Anyone have any idea what this Ebay thing is? 180391829649 Thanks, Laurie - To unsubscribe send email to majord...@arachne.com containing the line: unsubscribe lace y...@address.here. For help, write to arachnemodera...@yahoo.com
[lace] Ebay pillow
Does this Ebay pillow look familiar to anyone? 120458476616 I think it's English. It isn't the first time I've come across something like this, the one in my collection has old wooden spangled bobbins, so it has some age. I wrote to the seller, she said she bought it in an antique shop in North Wales about 20 years ago. She thinks it's stuff with sawdust, although I find that unlikely. Maybe some English lacemakers out there recognize it? Thanks, Laurie - To unsubscribe send email to majord...@arachne.com containing the line: unsubscribe lace y...@address.here. For help, write to arachnemodera...@yahoo.com
[lace] Selling on Ebay
I have a few lace items on Ebay, start with 130328047995, in case anyone is interested. Thanks, Laurie - To unsubscribe send email to majord...@arachne.com containing the line: unsubscribe lace y...@address.here. For help, write to arachnemodera...@yahoo.com
[lace] Pillows for sale
I'm listing some old bobbinlace pillows on Ebay - check under lswaters. Will put up some more tomorrow. Thanks, Laurie - To unsubscribe send email to majord...@arachne.com containing the line: unsubscribe lace y...@address.here. For help, write to arachnemodera...@yahoo.com
[lace] Chantilly - opinions?
Take a look at Ebay 290350765094 Handmade blonde Chantilly lace or not? I voted not, and got bawled out by the seller who says she has 20 years experience and is well qualified to tell the difference - and I should invest some time in learning something about lace. Opinions? Thanks, Laurie - To unsubscribe send email to majord...@arachne.com containing the line: unsubscribe lace y...@address.here. For help, write to arachnemodera...@yahoo.com
[lace] Old Italian Lace on Ebay
I've got vol I and II of Ricci's Old Italian Lace on Ebay, item #130334169063 in case anyone's interested. Laurie - To unsubscribe send email to majord...@arachne.com containing the line: unsubscribe lace y...@address.here. For help, write to arachnemodera...@yahoo.com
[lace] Google Books expired copyrights
Can anyone comment on the potential copyright liability of sites like the University of Arizona's weaving archive (which includes the big lace archive) in view of Google's recent attempt to settle with publishers for sole rights to expired copyrights? I know this isn't final yet, but they are putting tremendous resources behind it and have a good chance of success. What will happen to sites like this one if this happens? Will they have to shut down? Are there any lawyers out there who are following this? I know I'd like to scan a few old works for my own site, but have no idea of the potential impact here. Thanks. Laurie - To unsubscribe send email to majord...@arachne.com containing the line: unsubscribe lace y...@address.here. For help, write to arachnemodera...@yahoo.com
[lace] belgian bobbin winder on Ebay
Does anyone know anything about traditional Belgian 'spinning-wheel' type bobbin winders? Take a look at Ebay 220490586062. There are photos of this type on postcards, but I'm confused about the way the bobbins are attached - which you can't really see in the listing. The seller sent me a closeup that I can forward to interested people. I wonder if there is a piece missing the way she has it set up. She is trying two wind two bobbins at once, but I wonder if there shouldn't be another piece to hold the bobbins like you find on English windmill winders. I'm just not sure what to think of this piece. It does mirror the design of the 'newer' bobbin winder she is also listing at 220490576816. Does anyone know who might have made the newer one? Thanks, Laurie - To unsubscribe send email to majord...@arachne.com containing the line: unsubscribe lace y...@address.here. For help, write to arachnemodera...@yahoo.com
[lace] the dress of Maria-Theresia
I am making an extensive web discussion on Maria-Theresia's lace dress as part of my developing new lace web site. Apologies for the length of this email Maria-Theresa was the eldest daughter of the Holy Roman Emperor, Charles VI (1685-1740) - his only male heir died as an infant. He worked extensively to guarantee the succession of his daughter to the Habsburg Empire. Despite her elevation upon her father's death in 1740, Saxony, Prussia, Bavaria and France, which had previously agreed to femine rule under the Pragmatic Succession of 1713, repudiated their promise. Prussia went so far as to invade the Habsburg province of Silesia, initiating the War of the Austrian Succession, which lasted eight years. Other parts of the Empire, such as the States of Flanders, were eager to curry favor with the new monarch, and presented her with this magnificent gown in 1744 - it was known that she wanted a gown and a garniture of lace from the Netherlands. Such an extensive work could not have been done quickly, it was probably ordered several years before 1944. The States of Flanders was basically a 'parlimentary' body supporting the Counts of Flanders (Maria-Thersia became Countess of Flanders upon her accession in 1740), and consisted of the clergy, nobles, and commoners. Bruges, Ghent, and Ypres were economically the most important cities in Flanders, and could well afford the expense of this gift. The records of the debate concerning this gift are hilarious: "M. Comte de Lalaing, having made known to the assembly that her Majesty the Queen of Hungary and Bohemia, our gracious Sovereign, would like to have a garment and a garniture of lace from the Netherlands manufactured in that country, and that she has already asked Her Higness the Duchesse d'Arenbergh to procure this for herself, and after having taken into consideration that it is necessary to profit by this favorable occasion to try and prove to some extent to Her Majesty, our innate and tireless zeal by contributing, in so far as possible, by this assembly with the satisfaction and the pleasure of and to give her on behalf of the Province of Flanders, before all the other provinces, the first marks (of attachment), it was decided to give Her Majesty the present of a gown or a garniture of lace fabricated in the Netherlands to the value of 25 thousand florins, to be paid by the Clerk of the impost in the district of Ghent (thread by thread) to be assigned to Her Highness the Duchesse d'Arenbergh; and when the amount of the aforesaid sum has been paid by the above-named clerk of taxes in the district of Ghent, he will be allowed to pass ordinance in the tax compatability. In addition, it was decided to charge and appoint the Very Reverend M. Cassin de Boulers, abbot d'Eenaeme, M. Albert François Baron della Faille and the Huysse, and the gentleman Jean Walckiers, seigneur d'Ooswinckel, clerk of taxes in the district of Ghent, to make known the above-mentioned resolution to his Excellency the Count von Königseeg and to Her Highness the Duchesse d'Arenbergh and ask them to obtain for Her Majesty that which she would like to have, hoping that it will be agreable to her." (signed) J. B. J. Ameije All throughout its history, the Habsburg empire was centered in modern Austria, however the lace gown was made in Gent, Documentation exists to show that the Gent orphans known as the 'Red Corsets' from the dress the female orphans wore, were paid to do the work. The population of the Gent orphans rose and fell over the years depending on local wars, but by in large the girls were trained as lacemakers and seamstresses, while the boys eventually went into the Navy. This way the government could ensure a military workforce. Six of Maria-Theresa's sixteen children had been born by the time this dress was received, and she was around 26 years old when the seated portrait by Martyn van Meytens (1695-1770) was painted - it remains to this day in the town hall of Gent. It was a gift to the States of Flanders in appreciation of the dress. The underdress is a rose color. The standing portrait was painted around 1745, and is in the Schönbrunn palace near Vienna. Both paintings are attributed to van Mytens. Two stamps have been issued by Belgium, one with the standing dress portrait in and one with the seated portrait in 1972 for the 200th anniversary of the Academie Royale des Sciences des Lettres et des Beaux-Arts de Belgique (The Empress was the founder of the institution). The second stamp was of the standing portrait and was issued in 1964 as part of a series raising money for Tuberculosis research (different countries issued a set of stamps for this enterprise every year). You can see both portraits at http://www.1st-art-gallery.com/thumbnail/93342/1/Empress-Maria-Theresa.jpg and at http://www.hofburg-wien.at/typo3temp/pics/MariaTheresia_02_c17a72b0d4.jpg I am working on a translation Mme Lucie Paulis, in
[lace] What is it?
This interesting item is described as Klöppelständer mit Klöppelkissen but it doesn't look like any Germany pillow and stand that I've seen. Does anyone recognize it? Ebay item 300387242843 Thanks, Laurie - To unsubscribe send email to majord...@arachne.com containing the line: unsubscribe lace y...@address.here. For help, write to arachnemodera...@yahoo.com
[lace] Arachne'sWeb
I was just browing the web and came accross a reference to Arachne's Web that read: Arachne's Web: a guild of lacemakers recognized by the kingdom. Membership is given to those who have shown excellence in the art; there are many ranks within the guild. The guild presents lace napkins to the Crown at each coronation, and the lacemaker to the queen is usually selected from amongst the members. Members wear a token of black (silk), with a white spider's web embroidered on it. Is this something related to the Arachne listserver? Laurie - To unsubscribe send email to majord...@arachne.com containing the line: unsubscribe lace y...@address.here. For help, write to arachnemodera...@yahoo.com
[lace] 17th century Genoese lace on Ebay
Check out the amazing piece on Ebay 300394960805, advertised as Irish Crochet for $9.99. I told the seller to take it off and relist it with several hundred starting price. Laurie - To unsubscribe send email to majord...@arachne.com containing the line: unsubscribe lace y...@address.here. For help, write to arachnemodera...@yahoo.com
Re: [lace] fantastic Binche
I've written to the author of this site several times and we've had some very interesting discussions. She really is up to date on lacemaking activities in Belgium, and even helped me track down the son of a deceased artist who had done a woodcut of a Le Puy lacemaker. I'm sure that if you contact her about unauthorized photos she will go out of her way to make things right. Her site is quite a massive unorganized dump of information - it's completely frustratingly fascinating. And don't stop at just the current page, look up her archives. They change totally everytime she puts up a new blog. Just wish she'd can the annoying music. Laurie - To unsubscribe send email to majord...@arachne.com containing the line: unsubscribe lace y...@address.here. For help, write to arachnemodera...@yahoo.com
[lace] Does anyone recognize this?
Ebay #260556300765 It might be for Teneriffe, but I can't figure out exactly how it would work. Laurie - To unsubscribe send email to majord...@arachne.com containing the line: unsubscribe lace y...@address.here. For help, write to arachnemodera...@yahoo.com
[lace] Japanese lace collection
We've known for some time that there's a major Japanese lace buyer out there, but very little information has come through. A very serious buyer, spending a lot of money (much more than I do...) But, now the collection is up on the web, take a look. I recognize many of these pieces from recent sales. Have to hold my breath at seeing some big pieces displayed on the floor, but not much else to complain of! http://rlrlrl.com http://www.flickr.com/photos/40578...@n04/show/ Laurie - To unsubscribe send email to majord...@arachne.com containing the line: unsubscribe lace y...@address.here. For help, write to arachnemodera...@yahoo.com
[lace] The Tudors - costumes
I haven't seen this year's installments, left off last year just at the Kathryn Howard stage, in the year 1540. The first early pattern books don't mention 'cutwork' until 1542 - and they were basically embroidery patterns. The first real reticella patterns didn't appear until the 1560's. There are no portraits of Henry or his wives or Edward or Mary wearing lace, in face Reticella doesn't even appear in portraits of Elizabeth until about 1575. So the fact that the series shows lace before 1540 is wrong. I like the series, the forms of the costums are basically accurate, but the embellishments go way beyond fact, especially for jewelry. Lace was probably made in England before the first wave of protestant immigrants in 1563, but it is very hard to trace. Thomas Fuller writing in 1662 says about bobbinlace: Modern the use thereof in England, not exceeding the middle of the reign of queen Elizabeth: let it not be condemned for a superfluous wearing, because it doth neither hide nor heat, seeing it doth adorn. Besides, though private persons pay for it, it stands the State in nothing; not expensive of bullion, like other lace, costing nothing save a little thread descanted on by art and industry. Hereby many children, who otherwise would be burthensome to the parish, prove beneficial to their parents. Yea, many lame in their limbs, and impotent in their arms, if able in their fingers, gain a livelihood thereby; not to say that it saveth some thousands of pounds yearly, formerly sent over seas to fetch lace from Flanders. Laurie - To unsubscribe send email to majord...@arachne.com containing the line: unsubscribe lace y...@address.here. For help, write to arachnemodera...@yahoo.com
Re: [lace] The Tudors - costumes
One of my all time favorit quotes. Thomas Fuller, The History of the Worthies of England, 1662 I see editions printed in 1662, 1744, 1811, 1840, 1841, 1963, 1965, 2007 Also look under Austin P. Nutall, who I think was an editor of some of the 19th c editions. Laurie - Original Message - From: "Barbara" To: "Laurie Waters" Sent: Sunday, March 21, 2010 7:49 AM Subject: Re: [lace] The Tudors - costumes Do you have the citation for the quote? It's excellent, and I talk about this when I do demos of early lace. Thanks, Barbara On 03/21/2010 7:54 AM, Laurie Waters wrote: I haven't seen this year's installments, left off last year just at the Kathryn Howard stage, in the year 1540. The first early pattern books don't mention 'cutwork' until 1542 - and they were basically embroidery patterns. The first real reticella patterns didn't appear until the 1560's. There are no portraits of Henry or his wives or Edward or Mary wearing lace, in face Reticella doesn't even appear in portraits of Elizabeth until about 1575. So the fact that the series shows lace before 1540 is wrong. I like the series, the forms of the costums are basically accurate, but the embellishments go way beyond fact, especially for jewelry. Lace was probably made in England before the first wave of protestant immigrants in 1563, but it is very hard to trace. Thomas Fuller writing in 1662 says about bobbinlace: Modern the use thereof in England, not exceeding the middle of the reign of queen Elizabeth: let it not be condemned for a superfluous wearing, because it doth neither hide nor heat, seeing it doth adorn. Besides, though private persons pay for it, it stands the State in nothing; not expensive of bullion, like other lace, costing nothing save a little thread descanted on by art and industry. Hereby many children, who otherwise would be burthensome to the parish, prove beneficial to their parents. Yea, many lame in their limbs, and impotent in their arms, if able in their fingers, gain a livelihood thereby; not to say that it saveth some thousands of pounds yearly, formerly sent over seas to fetch lace from Flanders. Laurie - To unsubscribe send email to majord...@arachne.com containing the line: unsubscribe lace y...@address.here. For help, write to arachnemodera...@yahoo.com - To unsubscribe send email to majord...@arachne.com containing the line: unsubscribe lace y...@address.here. For help, write to arachnemodera...@yahoo.com
Re: [lace] what is a plioirs?
The best collection of plioirs, aunes, and other French wooden lacemaking equipment I've ever seen is at http://lezardpremierauvergne.skynetblogs.be/tag/1/plioir Laurie - To unsubscribe send email to majord...@arachne.com containing the line: unsubscribe lace y...@address.here. For help, write to arachnemodera...@yahoo.com
[lace] plioirs and acessories pictured on French site
Interesting comment about the heddles. Lace collectors go after these things because of a story that they are connected with lace. Gertrude Whiting describes them in Old-Time Toys and Tools of Needlework (1928). Even though she makes her doubts known, she's responsible for many lace collectors looking for these things today. The idea would have been that it was a winder for lace, and she even tries to speculate how a piece would be threaded through the slats. She says they were a traditional gift in Alencon to lacemakers. It's pretty obvious to weavers that this is a small heddle, and I have no idea where this story originated before Whiting, but they often have been labled as 'lace winders' in auctions. Personally I think there may have been a real traditional Alencon gift that might have a lot more credibility - something known as a 'spool winder'. It's a small metal or wood spool in a holder - there are examples in a Dover reprint called 'Decorative Ironwork' that attributes them to Alencon. I'm pretty sure I know how they might have been used. I've just agreed to teach a class in Alencon lace technique at the Minneapolis IOLI convention in 2012, although the details haven't been entirely worked out. I'll be going over a lot of this in the class. Laurie - To unsubscribe send email to majord...@arachne.com containing the line: unsubscribe lace y...@address.here. For help, write to arachnemodera...@yahoo.com
[lace] plioirs and acessories pictured on French site
As an example of what I was just writing about on the heddles, see Ebay item #260578984300 Laurie - To unsubscribe send email to majord...@arachne.com containing the line: unsubscribe lace y...@address.here. For help, write to arachnemodera...@yahoo.com
[lace] items for sale on Ebay
I'm doing the first of my twice yearly selling of lace and lace-related stuff on Ebay, under lswaters. I've got one item up 130386216591, others will come in a few days, including several unusual Teneriffe looms. Take a look if you are interested, thanks, Laurie - To unsubscribe send email to majord...@arachne.com containing the line: unsubscribe lace y...@address.here. For help, write to arachnemodera...@yahoo.com
[lace] the dress of Maria-Theresia
Since we were talking about Empress Maria-Theresia's lace dress a few months ago, I thought you might like to know that I just put up the two stamps that show the two portraits of her wearing this dress on Ebay. 130387569331 They are fairly hard to find. Also put up a bunch of other lace-related philatelic stuff. Thanks, Laurie - To unsubscribe send email to majord...@arachne.com containing the line: unsubscribe lace y...@address.here. For help, write to arachnemodera...@yahoo.com
[lace] what is it?
Does anyone recognize this? It isn't a Crazy Daisy winder. Ebay 120593750944 Thanks, Laurie - To unsubscribe send email to majord...@arachne.com containing the line: unsubscribe lace y...@address.here. For help, write to arachnemodera...@yahoo.com
[lace] LaceNews Blog - new
I've just started a blog on lace, called LaceNews - but this one is a bit different. I want to use this as a means to get fast news of interest to the community. Ebay alerts is one example. But I also want to make announcements of exhibitions, publications, etc, and also write some original articles, and also do interviews. Please forgive me the startup mistakes, I'm still figuring this out. But take a look, and sign up for notifications if you like. http://lacenews.wordpress.com/ Thanks! Laurie - To unsubscribe send email to majord...@arachne.com containing the line: unsubscribe lace y...@address.here. For help, write to arachnemodera...@yahoo.com
Re: [lace] LaceNews Blog - new
Wow! Amazing reaction to my announcement, and I'm quite bowled over. I want to thank everyone for all their responses, and all the wonderfully varied opinions and advice. And for visiting the site - 265 views so far! I've already set up some interviews that I think you will enjoy. After 5 posts yesterday I'm a bit tired, so will take a day or so off to let the dust settle. I'm also getting more familiar with the blog site, and learning to do new things all the time. Next is to figure out how to post pictures. Just a few things - I just purchased the domain name lacenews.net - so that will point to the blog, as well as lacenews.wordpress.com. I definitely should investigate getting a better email address - but I've had lswaters...@comcast.net for over 10 years. But this gmail stuff definitely bears looking into. I've made a number of categories on the site to assign postings to, including: auctions, competitions, conferences, contributing to LaceNews, Ebay Alert!, Exhibitions, Lace Events, Lace for sale privately and through dealers, LaceNews Articles, LaceNews Interviews, New Publications, and LaceNews Book Reviews. They won't actually appear on the site until something gets filed under them. If you think of others, let me know. I do think I'll do the Ebay Alert! twice a week, maybe Sunday and Wed or Thurs. Assuming there's something interesting. If anyone would like to contribute anything (like that article you always wanted to write...) please let me know! I wanted to do this for years, not only for the reasons many people have brought up, but also as a kind of online magazine. Without the advertisements (you have to pay Wordppress about $26 per year to get rid of those). Laurie - To unsubscribe send email to majord...@arachne.com containing the line: unsubscribe lace y...@address.here. For help, write to arachnemodera...@yahoo.com
[lace] Stolen Lace Token
I just posted a note about an English token that was stolen about a year ago on LaceNews. One of the blog's readers suggested it also be posted to Arachne because of the importance of this coin. You can see the details as the current lead story at http://lacenews.net Thanks, Laurie - To unsubscribe send email to majord...@arachne.com containing the line: unsubscribe lace y...@address.here. For help, write to arachnemodera...@yahoo.com
[lace] Interview with the Springetts
I just published an interview with David & Christine Springett on LaceNews about their bobbin collection sale on Ebay. Laurie http://lacenews.net - To unsubscribe send email to majord...@arachne.com containing the line: unsubscribe lace y...@address.here. For help, write to arachnemodera...@yahoo.com
[lace] Interview with Anne Swift
Just posted an interview with London lace dealer Anne Swift on LaceNews.She's got the very first stall (#1) on Portobello Road, and also sells on Ebay under the name eastayton - some of the better lace listings. Laurie http://lacenews.net - To unsubscribe send email to majord...@arachne.com containing the line: unsubscribe lace y...@address.here. For help, write to arachne.modera...@gmail.com
[lace] Lace Tokens
I've just put up the second of a two part series on Collecting English lace-related tokens on LaceNews. Coming up, probably on Saturday, will be an interview with Lace Dealer Maria Niforos - quite an amazing piece. And, another set of exhibitions, Lace Days, and meeting announcements. Laurie http://lacenews.net - To unsubscribe send email to majord...@arachne.com containing the line: unsubscribe lace y...@address.here. For help, write to arachne.modera...@gmail.com
[lace] Maria Niforos
I just posted the interview with lace dealer Maria Niforos on LaceNews. Laurie http://lacenews.net - To unsubscribe send email to majord...@arachne.com containing the line: unsubscribe lace y...@address.here. For help, write to arachne.modera...@gmail.com
[lace] Flemish Pottery Lacemakers
I've just posted a piece on LaceNews about collecting Flemish Pottery lacemakers. It's just amazing that people have virtually ignored these in the lace literature. Laurie http://lacenews.net - To unsubscribe send email to majord...@arachne.com containing the line: unsubscribe lace y...@address.here. For help, write to arachne.modera...@gmail.com
[lace] Lace-related Santons
I've just put up a piece on LaceNews on collecting French Santons - including bobbin lacemakers, crocheters and the Lace Merchant. Laurie http://lacenews.net - To unsubscribe send email to majord...@arachne.com containing the line: unsubscribe lace y...@address.here. For help, write to arachne.modera...@gmail.com
[lace] Back from Spain
I got back from Spain last night - spent a wonderful afternoon on Friday with Carolina de la Guardia at the lace museum in Arenys del Mar. I'll write it up for LaceNews soon. I also learned a bit more about the felt Spanish dolls, and did some revising of that posting. Interesting thing happened on the plane going back. I was sitting next to a woman who said she was the costume designer for a History Channel "documentary" on how religion influenced the formation of America. It's going to air in a few months, named something like "Fire and Hearts", actually I didn't write it down. But the fire part is right. I gather they are going to show a lot of people burning at the stake... Anyway, there's a segment on Anne Boleyn. I told her to be sure not to dress her in any lace! I told her a little about the early history of lace and when it actually showed up in dress. So hopefully there's a chance they will get it right for this production. Anyway, I'm back to posting things on LaceNews tomorrow. Laurie http://lacenews.net - To unsubscribe send email to majord...@arachne.com containing the line: unsubscribe lace y...@address.here. For help, write to arachne.modera...@gmail.com
[lace] Delft porcelain lacemakers
I've just put up a piece on Delft BlueandWhite lacemakers on LaceNews. I've also made substantial changes to the Poppy exhibtion piece, including scans of some of the works which were recently sent to me. Lots more coming shortly, including two museum reviews and two new interviews. Laurie http://lacenews.net - To unsubscribe send email to majord...@arachne.com containing the line: unsubscribe lace y...@address.here. For help, write to arachne.modera...@gmail.com
[lace] new posts on LaceNews
I'm starting some posts on LaceNews about collecting commerative medallions and currencies with images of lace and lacemakers. Just put up a piece on the French Billets de Nécessité. Please also note the UNESCO addition of Alencon lace to its Representative List of the Intangible Cultural Heritage of Humanity on November 16th. That is the inspiration for this month's featured lace piece. Laurie http://LaceNews.net - To unsubscribe send email to majord...@arachne.com containing the line: unsubscribe lace y...@address.here. For help, write to arachne.modera...@gmail.com
[lace] Belgian 1000 frank/200 belga note
I've posted a piece on the beautiful 1000 frank/200 belga note with the engraving of a lacemaker on LaceNews. Laurie http://lacenews.net - To unsubscribe send email to majord...@arachne.com containing the line: unsubscribe lace y...@address.here. For help, write to arachne.modera...@gmail.com
[lace] German Klöppelfrau Raucherfigurs
Along with the regular Thursday Ebay Alerts, I've just posted a piece on LaceNews about German lacemaker Raucherfigurs. You don't see these everyday. Laurie http://lacenews.net - To unsubscribe send email to majord...@arachne.com containing the line: unsubscribe lace y...@address.here. For help, write to arachne.modera...@gmail.com
[lace] Correspondence on some bobbins on eBay
Don't take it too bad Brian. I once dared to suggest privately to an Ebay seller that a 'handmade white Chantilly shawl' was actually machine made. After formally banning me from his site, and after his wife repeatedly told me to do something more productive with my life like trying prostitution, and then explaining how he had handled 500 such shawls in his life, he finally ended up threatening to strangle me with a pice of Chantilly lace. All I could say was that I hoped it would be handmade. Laurie - To unsubscribe send email to majord...@arachne.com containing the line: unsubscribe lace y...@address.here. For help, write to arachne.modera...@gmail.com
Re: [lace] Correspondence on some bobbins on eBay
Unfortunately Ebay doesn't care. They will assist the police in a legitimate investigation, but anything else is 'buyer beware'. They aren't in the business of policing millions of transaction. I think in the beginning they used to take things like this more seriously, but not now. And yes, I had some bad moments about this - afterall, he could easily tell where I lived. But in the end you have to make a judgement call, and my call was to let it lie. So in the future, if anyone finds me dead with a piece of Chantilly lace around my neck, please look about 2 years ago in Arachne, and you will find all the evidence. Laurie - Original Message - From: "Karen Zammit Manduca" To: "'Laurie Waters'" ; Sent: Saturday, December 18, 2010 6:07 AM Subject: RE: [lace] Correspondence on some bobbins on eBay Couldn't you have made a formal report to eBay about this person Laurie. After all trying to sell machine made stuff and pass it off as handmade probably amounts to fraud if it is done repeatedly. If it is a one-off thing it could be called a 'mistake' but not if it is done all the time. There are also consumer protection laws that would put the person out of business as well. Karen in Malta -Original Message- From: owner-l...@arachne.com [mailto:owner-l...@arachne.com] On Behalf Of Laurie Waters Sent: Saturday, December 18, 2010 1:22 PM To: lace@arachne.com Subject: [lace] Correspondence on some bobbins on eBay Don't take it too bad Brian. I once dared to suggest privately to an Ebay seller that a 'handmade white Chantilly shawl' was actually machine made. After formally banning me from his site, and after his wife repeatedly told me to do something more productive with my life like trying prostitution, and then explaining how he had handled 500 such shawls in his life, he finally ended up threatening to strangle me with a pice of Chantilly lace. All I could say was that I hoped it would be handmade. Laurie - To unsubscribe send email to majord...@arachne.com containing the line: unsubscribe lace y...@address.here. For help, write to arachne.modera...@gmail.com - To unsubscribe send email to majord...@arachne.com containing the line: unsubscribe lace y...@address.here. For help, write to arachne.modera...@gmail.com
[lace] Pillow Lace
I just put up a piece on LaceNews about a children's book called "Harry's Monkey, How it Helped the Missionaries". First published in 1866, it calls the bucks/beds lace 'pillow lace', or 'lace made on a pillow'. Laurie http://lacenews.net - To unsubscribe send email to majord...@arachne.com containing the line: unsubscribe lace y...@address.here. For help, write to arachne.modera...@gmail.com
[lace] Tunisian Chebka lace on LaceNews
I just put up a piece on Tunisian Chebka lace on LaceNews, which includes scanned images of the two main technical resources. Laurie http://lacenews.net - To unsubscribe send email to majord...@arachne.com containing the line: unsubscribe lace y...@address.here. For help, write to arachne.modera...@gmail.com
[lace] Thanks from LaceNews!
Just now LaceNews broke its previous record of 248 views in one day - and the day isn't over yet! I've had a lot of fun over the past 4 months with the project, and I would like to thank everyone for helping to make this such a success! I hope to keep it going for a very long time. Thanks again, and best wishes for a Happy New Year (it's snowing hard here in New Mexico). Laurie http://lacenews.net PS, I've made some corrections to the Chebka post, and also added a scan of 3-page 1958 article that I just found. Hopefully later this evening I'll put up a scan of at least part of the Dentelles Algéiennes & Marocaines book - I'm being a lot more careful with this one because it's such an important resource. - To unsubscribe send email to majord...@arachne.com containing the line: unsubscribe lace y...@address.here. For help, write to arachne.modera...@gmail.com
[lace] 2011 Wished-for Lace-related Book
Here are books that not only would I like to see written, but that I would like to write: 1. History and technique of Burano needlelace 2. History and technique of the great Italian/French needlelaces (gros point, flat point, corraline, rosepoint, point d'neige, early point de France...) 2. Missionary lacemaking efforts - including American Indian, Chinese, India, Africa, Ceylon, Madagascar, ... 3. A book on antique lacemaking equipment (not just pillows and stands) including CAD drawings of all examples. 4. The Technical History of Needlelace (I'm working on it now) 5. Specialized work on the Lefebure manufactory (including analysi of 19th-20th century French manufacturers) 6. Specialized work on the Jesurum manufactory (including analysi of 19th-20th century Italian manufacturers) 7. Lace and lace manufacturers showing in the World Expositions/World's Fairs 8. Regency point - where does it really come from??? 9. Work in English on Spanish ret-fi And Diana Smith needs to do much more on the local analysis of old photos/postcards. Laurie http://lacenews.net - To unsubscribe send email to majord...@arachne.com containing the line: unsubscribe lace y...@address.here. For help, write to arachne.modera...@gmail.com
[lace] new post on LaceNews
Along with the regular Sunday Ebay Alerts, I've just posted a new collecting pieceon LaceNews. The title is "Collecting: Small German Wooden Figures and the Amazing Exploding Klöppelfrau". Take a look... Laurie http://lacenews.net - To unsubscribe send email to majord...@arachne.com containing the line: unsubscribe lace y...@address.here. For help, write to arachne.modera...@gmail.com
[lace] Travel Posters on LaceNews
Just put up a piece on collecting lace-related travel posters on LaceNews. Note, there's a little mature content here. Enjoy. Laurie http://lacenews.net - To unsubscribe send email to majord...@arachne.com containing the line: unsubscribe lace y...@address.here. For help, write to arachne.modera...@gmail.com
[lace] Spanier arbeit
I wonder if this stamp is at all connected with Spanier Arbeit. I haven't been able to find any information whatsoever on the work depicted - and the veiled woman is also quite a shock. I do know that the threads are gold and silver, and the work is meant to decorate men's costume. It was produced by the United Arab Emirates in 1999 http://www.delcampe.net/page/item/id,110653875,var,UAE-1999-MNH-Set-Crafts-Handicrafts,language,E.html look at the stamp at the left. Maybe this craft survived in some unexpected places. In trying to see what is on the web about this work, I see a few references from my good friends Lotus and Edward Stack who have traveled extensively in the area. She was curator of the department of textiles at the Minneapolis Institute of Arts for years, she and her husband would travel in this area researching obscure textile arts. They have thousands of photos - I'm writing to them now. If I can get enough together from various sources I'll do a piece on LaceNews. Laurie http://lacenews.net - To unsubscribe send email to majord...@arachne.com containing the line: unsubscribe lace y...@address.here. For help, write to arachne.modera...@gmail.com. Photo site: http://community.webshots.com/user/arachne2003
[lace] Spanier arbeit
I don't think this is any kind of knotted lace like macrame - it's hard to knot metalic threads, and there doesn't seem to be anything about her movements that indicates she is trying to. I agree, it's some kind of braiding. Notice how she is handling thre threads, not the bobbins. There also don't seem to be any pins - putting the threads and bobbins off the edge of the pillow would be enough to keep a tension. But maybe not keep the work centered, so there may be pins somewhere. I have a closeup of this stamp if anyone is interested; just write me a note. Laurie http://lacenews.net Seeing the bobbins she uses and that she holds the threads and not the bobbins, I believe she makes some kind of braiding or Macaramee. Gabriele - To unsubscribe send email to majord...@arachne.com containing the line: unsubscribe lace y...@address.here. For help, write to arachne.modera...@gmail.com. Photo site: http://community.webshots.com/user/arachne2003
[lace] Chantilly museum
I'm now back from two weeks of almost continuous travel. Although I managed to keep up with the LaceNews Ebay Alerts (barely) with the hotel internet services - I've got a lot of catching up to do on postings. I just put up a post of my visit to the Chantilly lace museum. Later today I'll be finishing up the Regency 'lace of the month' material. Other stuff soon to follow. Thanks, Laurie http://lacenews.net - To unsubscribe send email to majord...@arachne.com containing the line: unsubscribe lace y...@address.here. For help, write to arachne.modera...@gmail.com. Photo site: http://community.webshots.com/user/arachne2003
[lace] Re: Regency
Thanks Alex. I did not take any dates from the Eke booklet (and they did not write this piece), these are my own estimations. Since my example is made of linen thread (confirmed under the microscope), as is the one in the Montupet book, that doesn't argue well for the 'end of the century' date. I will look again at the Lace Dealer's pattern book, I must have missed something, and I'll revise the piece based on your suggestion. Hopefully the posting will stimulate some good discussion, and perhaps reveal more pieces in other collections. I find the possibility of similar laces, like the gimpless type quite fascinating - perhaps we should be looking much more carefully at what ultimately led to this beautiful lace. Laurie - Original Message - From: Alex Stillwell To: lace@arachne.com Cc: Laurie Waters Sent: Wednesday, March 16, 2011 4:07 AM Subject: Regency Dear Arachnids I have been researching Regency Bucks for over 15 years and found the 'Lace News' article interesting. Unfortunately the information about the dates, presumably from the booklet by Jean Eke, Angela Brown and Sandi Woods is inaccurate. I would have thought that the 'firat port of call' for anyone researching Bucks would be The Luton Museum Lace Dealer's Pattern Book. My edition dated 1998 contains illustrations of nine samples of Regency and one containing both standard Floral Bucks and Regency Bucks. The the date given for the pieces in the book is stated as appearing to date from around 1820 to the end of the century. The lace we see in collections is the lace that has been regarded as worth being looked after and keeping'for its beauty and monetary value with most of the less interesting and less well made pieces probably being worn out and lost over time. Therefore it is not surprising that pieces like the simple, narrower pieces illustrated in the Luton Museum book have not been preserved. Laurie is correct in saying that I am including Regency Bucks in the Floral Bucks book I am currently writing. I am currently making the lace and writing about Regency, dressing a doll in a chistening robe trimmed with it and then I have the last project, underclothes for a doll using some very fine Bucks, so it should not be too long now. Keep lacemakin Best wishes Alex - To unsubscribe send email to majord...@arachne.com containing the line: unsubscribe lace y...@address.here. For help, write to arachne.modera...@gmail.com. Photo site: http://community.webshots.com/user/arachne2003
[lace] Regency Point
If you are missing the Regency posting on Lace News, look at the first item under the 'About the featured lace' category on the right hand side. On March 1st I put up a very temporary (in process) posting, since I was actually in France and was just too rushed. A few days ago I completely revised the posting, and also re-photographed the lace both for the header and the article. Regarding dates. Palliser says it was named 'Regency Lace' in honor of the Prince Regent. Unless we come across some catalog or correspondence where the term is first used, we can only speculate. I'm thinking that this particular lace underwent a development period where it evolved from gimpless experiments with comtemporary Bucks and probably Lille patterns. We even see some gimpless Italian examples from this time. Perhaps it solidified in character with the internal gimp around the time of the regency, and manufacturers wanted to promote it as a marketable product. Hence that particular name - Royal patronage could have played a part. And no one has yet looked at contemporary portraiture - a very important clue. If the 'brand name' stuck with a successful product then it could have continued for some time, well after 1820. Again, I'm much struck by the linen thread used in my and other pieces; definitely an early sign. As for the lace pattern book, how were these dates assigned? Until we know more about the process, I'm unwilling to quote the 'end of the century' tag. A little solid research would go a long way here. One more thing, I'm going to consistently call this 'Regency Point', since that name seems to have been used by the original manufacturers, according to Palliser. Laurie - To unsubscribe send email to majord...@arachne.com containing the line: unsubscribe lace y...@address.here. For help, write to arachne.modera...@gmail.com. Photo site: http://community.webshots.com/user/arachne2003
