Re: [LegacyUG] Legacy 8 Installation - Avast Antivirus - file prevalence/reputation is low msdev.exe

2013-11-27 Thread Gene Young
On 11/26/2013 5:49 PM, John Magyari wrote:
 After being hit by several viruses this year
 and having to reformat the drives on 2 PCs
 I started using Avast, which has prevented many infections so far.
 Avast indicated
 We did not find enough evidence to identify the file as malware,
 However you should still use extreme caution when accessing it.
 msdev.exe
 reason: The file prevalence/reputation is low.
 Is this file uninfected or should I override the Avast Antivirus Software 
 during installation?

This is to be expected with a new program and Avast.  Avast partially bases its 
analysis on whether a program has a history.  A brand new program will be 
unknown to Avast and so trigger this warning.  If it were an infected copy it's 
other tests would have most likely discovered the virus.

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With Legacy Family Tree
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[LegacyUG] Fields show empty on opening Legacy 8 (family view)

2013-11-27 Thread Teresa Goatham
When I start up Legacy the family view screens show no data. If I click
on another tab and then return to family view the data appears! (haven't
tried all tabs but 'Legacy Home' and 'Pedigree' certainly both work)

I usually have Legacy open to the last viewed file, but changed this to
be a particular one, but this (minor) problem still occurs.

Teresa



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Re: [LegacyUG] Legacy 8 Installation - GLBF797.tmp

2013-11-27 Thread Gene Young
On 11/26/2013 7:38 PM, Sherry/Support wrote:
 That's a problem with Avast. Turn it off when you do an install or update of 
 Legacy.

 I just switched to a different AV program since I was getting tired of 
 dealing with this every time there was a test update!



 Sincerely,
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I run Avast and I just installed Legacy 8.  No problems, no warnings.  It may 
not be the simplest anti-virus program to use but, as with all software, the 
more you learn about it the better it appears to become and the easier it 
becomes to use.

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Re: [LegacyUG] PP Alert Details Hang [was: Legacy 8]

2013-11-27 Thread Teresa Goatham
I even managed to get Legacy to crash trying to turn off a Potential
problem - not sure exactly what I did, now though, and it has'nt
happened a 2nd time (but I have turned more off)

It seems strange to me that if I hover over the PP icon I get options to
change my overall settings, but not to mark that particular possible
problem as not an issue. Especially the gaps, there are loads I'd like
to be able to switch off quickly; I know they're not a problem without
clicking to see the details.

So many I may just turn off reporting for the gaps, good idea, but the
numbers used just don't work for much of my tree. I wish I could change
them, e.g. at one time most of the working class in England (i.e. most
people) were expecting a child when they married, so less than an 8 mth
gap between marriage and 1st child's baptism was probably the norm,
certainly very common. At other periods or classes it was rare, hence
being able to the change from 8 mths would be useful.

Teresa

On 26/11/2013 22:31, John B. Lisle wrote:
 Hi,

 This has seemed to be an intermittent issue that
 started late in the testing cycle. Not everyone
 sees it, and it may only occur on certain type of PP Alerts.

 Please email me privately with details of what you see.

 thanks,
 john.

 At 04:18 PM 11/26/2013, C.G. Ouimet wrote:
 --snip --

 When clicking the Potential Problems icon in
 Family View or Pedigree View opens up Potential
 Problems which is good. But Clicking to view
 details, right clicking to exclude problems or
 shift-right clicking to change problem settings all result in Legacy hanging.

 Windows 7 …

 C.G. Ouimet
 Kingston ON



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RE: [LegacyUG] Delete 7.5?

2013-11-27 Thread lio .
Thank you everyone!

I guess that leads me to one further question. Why would I want to have 7.5 and 
8.0 installed on my computer?

Leo

From: mich...@legacyfamilytree.com
To: LegacyUserGroup@LegacyUsers.com
Subject: RE: [LegacyUG] Delete 7.5?
Date: Tue, 26 Nov 2013 22:26:31 -0500

Yes, you can run both versions on the same computer.  It is best to let both 
versions install to their default locations (they are different).  Each will 
have to have its own database file because Legacy 8 will convert a 7.5 file and 
then it won’t be usable in 7.5 anymore.  It is best to have the two databases 
in separate locations (again, the default locations are the best) and I would 
name them different names so that you don’t get confused.  MicheleTechnical 
SupportMichele@LegacyFamilyTree.comhttp://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com  From: Chick 
Lewis [mailto:cglewi...@gmail.com]
Sent: Tuesday, November 26, 2013 10:01 PM
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Subject: Re: [LegacyUG] Delete 7.5? No it has not been answered or no it is not 
possible to run both V8 and V7.5 on the same computer?


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[LegacyUG] Integrate with Family Search

2013-11-27 Thread lio .
When I installed Legacy 8.0, Integrate with Family Search was not checked by 
default, so I ignored it, assuming it was not for the average user. Now after 
reading the section in the User Guide (pg 269), I'm wondering if I am missing 
out on a bonus feature by not having checked it?

Thanks again all,

Leo





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Re: [LegacyUG] Integrate with Family Search

2013-11-27 Thread Randy Clark
yes, you are.


On Wed, Nov 27, 2013 at 8:23 AM, lio . likeitouts...@hotmail.com wrote:

 When I installed Legacy 8.0, Integrate with Family Search was not
 checked by default, so I ignored it, assuming it was not for the average
 user. Now after reading the section in the User Guide (pg 269), I'm
 wondering if I am missing out on a bonus feature by not having checked it?

 Thanks again all,

 Leo




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Re: [LegacyUG] Delete 7.5?

2013-11-27 Thread Mike Fry
On 2013/11/27 15:14, lio . wrote:

 I guess that leads me to one further question. Why would I want to have 7.5 
 and
 8.0 installed on my computer?

Like me. A paid-for, legal copy of 7.5 and a copy of the free 8.0 for evaluation
purposes. So far I can see very little reason to upgrade.

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Re: [LegacyUG] Integrate with Family Search

2013-11-27 Thread Mike Fry
On 2013/11/27 15:23, lio . wrote:

 When I installed Legacy 8.0, Integrate with Family Search was not checked by
 default, so I ignored it, assuming it was not for the average user. Now after
 reading the section in the User Guide (pg 269), I'm wondering if I am missing
 out on a bonus feature by not having checked it?

It's feature that can have a sting in the tail.

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Re: [LegacyUG] Delete 7.5?

2013-11-27 Thread Carl Cox

 So far I can see very little reason to upgrade.

Legacy provides the best genealogy database I know of, and they ask so
little of me. They provide the free version for those who cannot afford
expensive software. They respond to our pleas for help. And I feel they
should be paid for their efforts.

Other programs update more often, and at higher prices. We get continual
free updates. The price for the upgrade is about like taking your family to
McDonalds. I think that years of excellent software is worth more than
McDonalds.

I could probably come up with more reasons.

So, although my resources are limited, and I don't go to McDonalds, I do
upgrade each time it is available.

Carl




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RE: [LegacyUG] PP causing crashes

2013-11-27 Thread Ron Ferguson
Teresa,

No, attachments are *not* allowed on this list.

All users on any list should read the rules before posting. It's called 
etiquette and the URL is given at the end of every post; together with an 
instruction to delete them before replying to a post

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Re: [LegacyUG] Delete 7.5?

2013-11-27 Thread 2marion wimps
I have 7.5 and 8 (De Luxe for both) on one computer - I have left the main
file with 7.5 until I have played with 8 to see what (if any) problems
there are. So far I have had a couple of hangs but in all I am loving the
new features - so many new bells and whistles to make life a little easier
by the looks of it. The share feature alone is worth its weight in gold to
me. I have no intention of moving my main file to 8 until I have thoroughly
tested it with my test file - it's purely for safety reasons!
Marion


On 27 November 2013 22:04, Carl Cox ct...@centurytel.net wrote:


  So far I can see very little reason to upgrade.

 Legacy provides the best genealogy database I know of, and they ask so
 little of me. They provide the free version for those who cannot afford
 expensive software. They respond to our pleas for help. And I feel they
 should be paid for their efforts.

 Other programs update more often, and at higher prices. We get continual
 free updates. The price for the upgrade is about like taking your family to
 McDonalds. I think that years of excellent software is worth more than
 McDonalds.

 I could probably come up with more reasons.

 So, although my resources are limited, and I don't go to McDonalds, I do
 upgrade each time it is available.

 Carl




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RE: [LegacyUG] Clock Alarm feature

2013-11-27 Thread Kurt Kneeland
I also noticed a problem with the current time displayed  on the Alarm Center.  
It was 12 hours off - displaying PM when it should have been AM.  I thought it 
might just be mishandling the AM/PM indicator.  I switched to 24-hour clock 
(Option 4.8) and all seemed well.  This morning I switched back to the 12-hour 
clock and it seems to be OK.  I’ll have to check again in the 12 o’clock hours 
(eg 0030 and 1230) and see if the problem reoccurs.



From: Kathy Thompson [mailto:kmthoms...@gmail.com]
Sent: Wednesday, November 27, 2013 1:17 AM
To: LegacyUserGroup@LegacyUsers.com
Subject: Re: [LegacyUG] Clock  Alarm feature



it certainly was!



On 27 November 2013 17:14, Mike Fry emjay...@gmail.com wrote:

On 2013/11/27 09:08, Kathy Thompson wrote:
 However, first the clock was 15 hours out, then it was 12 hours out, then it 
 was
 about 6 hours out - now it is showing the correct time.
 It appears that a few loads and shut downs of the program were needed for it 
 to
 get in sync with my time zone.
 And no, I have not changed my own computer clock.

Strange one!


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Johannesburg (g)



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RE: [LegacyUG] PP causing crashes

2013-11-27 Thread C.G. Ouimet
Why before 1692? If the burial was in 1681, would it not be fair to assume the 
death was in, or before, 1681?


C.G. Ouimet
Kingston ON


-Original Message-
From: Teresa Goatham [mailto:ter...@goatham.co.uk]
Sent: November 27, 2013 08:18 AM
To: LegacyUserGroup@LegacyUsers.com
Subject: [LegacyUG] PP causing crashes

As soon as I'd sent the email saying I'd only had one crash I had another! And 
I now know the details.

1. I clicked on PP icon for a person.
2. It showed an event was after death; thought this was probably an obit but I 
wanted to check so clicked 'edit person'
3. That gave list of events; I could see it was correct (an obit) so I clicked 
on the PP icon by that event - and it crashed: run-time error '3420', Object 
invalid or no longer set.

I'm not sure if this list allows attachments so am trying to attach but have 
also uploaded to http://teresa-goatham.me.uk/temporary/PP-crash.jpg

Also on the topic of PP issues but not the above one, some inappropriate 
warnings still show up.
e.g. I have a death 'before 1692' and a burial in '1681'. I consider these 
compatible; 1681 is before 1692.
Legacy warns me I have a burial before death. It needs to take account of 
'befores' and 'afters'

Teresa







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RE: [LegacyUG] PP Alert Details Hang [was: Legacy 8]

2013-11-27 Thread C.G. Ouimet
800.353 hangs when you do any of that ...


C.G. Ouimet
Kingston ON


-Original Message-
From: Kurt Kneeland [mailto:kurt-kneel...@sbcglobal.net]
Sent: November 27, 2013 09:59 AM
To: LegacyUserGroup@LegacyUsers.com
Subject: RE: [LegacyUG] PP Alert Details Hang [was: Legacy 8]

As you said, when you hover over a pp icon, you get options to change settings. 
Do the Shift-Right Click and then go to the Gaps tab.  There you can change the 
soon or long after marriage, and how soon or long between children to be 
flagged as a problem.

-Original Message-
From: Teresa Goatham [mailto:ter...@goatham.co.uk]
Sent: Wednesday, November 27, 2013 6:32 AM
To: LegacyUserGroup@LegacyUsers.com
Subject: Re: [LegacyUG] PP Alert Details Hang [was: Legacy 8]

I even managed to get Legacy to crash trying to turn off a Potential problem - 
not sure exactly what I did, now though, and it has'nt happened a 2nd time (but 
I have turned more off)

It seems strange to me that if I hover over the PP icon I get options to change 
my overall settings, but not to mark that particular possible problem as not an 
issue. Especially the gaps, there are loads I'd like to be able to switch off 
quickly; I know they're not a problem without clicking to see the details.

So many I may just turn off reporting for the gaps, good idea, but the numbers 
used just don't work for much of my tree. I wish I could change them, e.g. at 
one time most of the working class in England (i.e. most
people) were expecting a child when they married, so less than an 8 mth gap 
between marriage and 1st child's baptism was probably the norm, certainly very 
common. At other periods or classes it was rare, hence being able to the change 
from 8 mths would be useful.

Teresa

On 26/11/2013 22:31, John B. Lisle wrote:
 Hi,

 This has seemed to be an intermittent issue that started late in the
 testing cycle. Not everyone sees it, and it may only occur on certain
 type of PP Alerts.

 Please email me privately with details of what you see.

 thanks,
 john.

 At 04:18 PM 11/26/2013, C.G. Ouimet wrote:
 --snip --

 When clicking the Potential Problems icon in Family View or Pedigree
 View opens up Potential Problems which is good. But Clicking to view
 details, right clicking to exclude problems or shift-right clicking
 to change problem settings all result in Legacy hanging.

 Windows 7 ?

 C.G. Ouimet
 Kingston ON



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Re: [LegacyUG] PP causing crashes

2013-11-27 Thread Teresa Goatham
If only genealogy were that simple! It can be very difficult to work out
who events belong to.
This is especially the case with earlier English burial registers, where
there is often nothing but a name, especially for a man (women were
often described as wife of ... or widow).

So I have found the burial I believe to be of my ancestor Nathaniel
Smith in 1681, but I could easily have got it wrong. If I subsequently
find additional info. suggesting that it was a different Nathaniel (it
was a name used repeatedly in the family) I don't wish to lose site of
the fact that I have evidence that he died before his wife - who died in
1692. Hence I have both events / sources attached to Nathaniel on my
tree. (And he is far from alone in being like this)

Teresa


On 27/11/2013 14:38, C.G. Ouimet wrote:
 Why before 1692? If the burial was in 1681, would it not be fair to assume 
 the death was in, or before, 1681?


 C.G. Ouimet
 Kingston ON


 -Original Message-
 From: Teresa Goatham [mailto:ter...@goatham.co.uk]
 Sent: November 27, 2013 08:18 AM
 To: LegacyUserGroup@LegacyUsers.com
 Subject: [LegacyUG] PP causing crashes

 As soon as I'd sent the email saying I'd only had one crash I had another! 
 And I now know the details.

 1. I clicked on PP icon for a person.
 2. It showed an event was after death; thought this was probably an obit but 
 I wanted to check so clicked 'edit person'
 3. That gave list of events; I could see it was correct (an obit) so I 
 clicked on the PP icon by that event - and it crashed: run-time error '3420', 
 Object invalid or no longer set.

 I'm not sure if this list allows attachments so am trying to attach but have 
 also uploaded to http://teresa-goatham.me.uk/temporary/PP-crash.jpg

 Also on the topic of PP issues but not the above one, some inappropriate 
 warnings still show up.
 e.g. I have a death 'before 1692' and a burial in '1681'. I consider these 
 compatible; 1681 is before 1692.
 Legacy warns me I have a burial before death. It needs to take account of 
 'befores' and 'afters'

 Teresa





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Re: [LegacyUG] Integrate with Family Search

2013-11-27 Thread Ron Ferguson
Mike,

I would be grateful if you would explain the meaning of sting in the tail.
During testing a played around quite a bit with FS and noted quite an
improvement as time went one, and I ended up quite happy with it.

Whilst it is my understanding that some additional functionality has yet to
be added, I am not at all concerned about using it as it is.

Ron Ferguson
http://www.fergys.co.uk/


-Original Message-
From: Mike Fry
Sent: Wednesday, November 27, 2013 1:50 PM
To: LegacyUserGroup@LegacyUsers.com
Subject: Re: [LegacyUG] Integrate with Family Search

On 2013/11/27 15:23, lio . wrote:

 When I installed Legacy 8.0, Integrate with Family Search was not
 checked by
 default, so I ignored it, assuming it was not for the average user. Now
 after
 reading the section in the User Guide (pg 269), I'm wondering if I am
 missing
 out on a bonus feature by not having checked it?

It's feature that can have a sting in the tail.

--
Regards,
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[LegacyUG] Child List Indicator Bug

2013-11-27 Thread Kurt Kneeland
Here's one I think is a minor bug.

Have an individual with more than one spouse, children by at least one spouse, 
but no children by the preferred spouse.  In family view, where individual is a 
child, the child list indicator shows that the child has descendants (plus 
sign).  So far so good.

However, on the pedigree view, if you hover on the parent of the individual, 
the pop-up child list shows the individual with only the spouse indicator, 
apparently not looking beyond the preferred spouse to determine if there are 
further descendants.








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[LegacyUG] open file Legacy8

2013-11-27 Thread Randy Clark
I mistakenly told it to always show me a list of files from which to pick.
How do I let it allow me to navigate to the file?



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Re: [LegacyUG] Delete 7.5?

2013-11-27 Thread Ron Ferguson
Chick,

I was actually replying to Leo, whose thread this is and whose post I quoted.

Your post on the same topic had not arrived when I replied.

Ron Ferguson
http://www.fergys.co.uk/


From: Chick Lewis
Sent: Wednesday, November 27, 2013 3:00 AM
To: LegacyUserGroup@LegacyUsers.com
Subject: Re: [LegacyUG] Delete 7.5?

No it has not been answered or no it is not possible to run both V8 and V7.5 on 
the same computer?



On Tue, Nov 26, 2013 at 6:39 PM, Ron Ferguson ronfergy@tiscali.co.uk 
wrote:

  Leo,

  No to all questions, except with respect to using the same database. Because 
V8 changes the format, the same DB will not run on both.

  Ron Ferguson
  http://www.fergys.co.uk/


  lio . likeitouts...@hotmail.com wrote:

  I see Legacy 8 installed to its own directory (I had expected it to install 
in the same directory as 7.5).
  
  Should I have uninstalled 7.5 before installing 8?
  Are there any issues by my uninstalling 7.5 now, after installing 8?
  
  FYI my database files are in Dropbox, not under 7.5
  
  Thanks,
  
  Leo
  
  


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Re: [LegacyUG] Delete 7.5?

2013-11-27 Thread Ron Ferguson
Carl,

Whilst I agree with your praise for the Legacy program, and I am sure that
Legacy will be delighted with your undoubted loyalty, you have not given me
one reason why I would spend money to upgrade.

For me, I need to see technical improvements, and/or, additional functions
which I need - not the same as mere additional functions!! As it is, V8.0
does give this, especially with Event Sharing, the return of the 5 sourcing
options, the loss of which was lamented by many of us, the improved Family
Search option (although I recognise the caveats with family trees) and I
really do like the new design options, and much more.

Are there things which I would have liked which are not there? Sure but
there is sufficient there to raise my interest.

Ron Ferguson
http://www.fergys.co.uk/




-Original Message-
From: Carl Cox
Sent: Wednesday, November 27, 2013 2:04 PM
To: LegacyUserGroup@LegacyUsers.com
Subject: Re: [LegacyUG] Delete 7.5?


 So far I can see very little reason to upgrade.

Legacy provides the best genealogy database I know of, and they ask so
little of me. They provide the free version for those who cannot afford
expensive software. They respond to our pleas for help. And I feel they
should be paid for their efforts.

Other programs update more often, and at higher prices. We get continual
free updates. The price for the upgrade is about like taking your family to
McDonalds. I think that years of excellent software is worth more than
McDonalds.

I could probably come up with more reasons.

So, although my resources are limited, and I don't go to McDonalds, I do
upgrade each time it is available.

Carl




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RE: [LegacyUG] open file Legacy8

2013-11-27 Thread Kurt Kneeland
I see what you mean.  I set mine the other way (always use Windows) and now 
there does not seem to any way to get back to the original setting. The F1 on 
Open File only brings up help about the Family View screen, and I see nothing 
in Customize to affect this setting.



From: Randy Clark [mailto:ceddaco...@gmail.com]
Sent: Wednesday, November 27, 2013 9:43 AM
To: LegacyUserGroup@LegacyUsers.com
Subject: [LegacyUG] open file Legacy8



I mistakenly told it to always show me a list of files from which to pick. How 
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Re: [LegacyUG] open file Legacy8

2013-11-27 Thread Sherry/Support
Go to Options  Customize  General Settings to select your option for
Starting Family File


Sincerely,
Sherry
Technical Support
Legacy Family Tree


On Wed, Nov 27, 2013 at 7:43 AM, Randy Clark ceddaco...@gmail.com wrote:
 I mistakenly told it to always show me a list of files from which to pick.
 How do I let it allow me to navigate to the file?



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Re: [LegacyUG] PP Alert Details Hang [was: Legacy 8]

2013-11-27 Thread Ron Ferguson
Your's might, mine doesn't. If you would like some help perhaps you can tell
us what you have tried to resolve the problem, whether you had installation
problems, does it apply to many different types of problems or just one?

Ron Ferguson
http://www.fergys.co.uk/

-Original Message-
From: C.G. Ouimet
Sent: Wednesday, November 27, 2013 3:17 PM
To: LegacyUserGroup@LegacyUsers.com
Subject: RE: [LegacyUG] PP Alert Details Hang [was: Legacy 8]

800.353 hangs when you do any of that ...


C.G. Ouimet
Kingston ON


-Original Message-
From: Kurt Kneeland [mailto:kurt-kneel...@sbcglobal.net]
Sent: November 27, 2013 09:59 AM
To: LegacyUserGroup@LegacyUsers.com
Subject: RE: [LegacyUG] PP Alert Details Hang [was: Legacy 8]

As you said, when you hover over a pp icon, you get options to change
settings. Do the Shift-Right Click and then go to the Gaps tab.  There you
can change the soon or long after marriage, and how soon or long between
children to be flagged as a problem.

-Original Message-
From: Teresa Goatham [mailto:ter...@goatham.co.uk]
Sent: Wednesday, November 27, 2013 6:32 AM
To: LegacyUserGroup@LegacyUsers.com
Subject: Re: [LegacyUG] PP Alert Details Hang [was: Legacy 8]

I even managed to get Legacy to crash trying to turn off a Potential
problem - not sure exactly what I did, now though, and it has'nt happened a
2nd time (but I have turned more off)

It seems strange to me that if I hover over the PP icon I get options to
change my overall settings, but not to mark that particular possible problem
as not an issue. Especially the gaps, there are loads I'd like to be able to
switch off quickly; I know they're not a problem without clicking to see the
details.

So many I may just turn off reporting for the gaps, good idea, but the
numbers used just don't work for much of my tree. I wish I could change
them, e.g. at one time most of the working class in England (i.e. most
people) were expecting a child when they married, so less than an 8 mth gap
between marriage and 1st child's baptism was probably the norm, certainly
very common. At other periods or classes it was rare, hence being able to
the change from 8 mths would be useful.

Teresa

On 26/11/2013 22:31, John B. Lisle wrote:
 Hi,

 This has seemed to be an intermittent issue that started late in the
 testing cycle. Not everyone sees it, and it may only occur on certain
 type of PP Alerts.

 Please email me privately with details of what you see.

 thanks,
 john.

 At 04:18 PM 11/26/2013, C.G. Ouimet wrote:
 --snip --

 When clicking the Potential Problems icon in Family View or Pedigree
 View opens up Potential Problems which is good. But Clicking to view
 details, right clicking to exclude problems or shift-right clicking
 to change problem settings all result in Legacy hanging.

 Windows 7 ?

 C.G. Ouimet
 Kingston ON





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Re: [LegacyUG] Legacy 8 Installation - GLBF797.tmp

2013-11-27 Thread John Magyari
Windows 7 sp1 Memory 6 meg Intel Core i7
No Antivirus installed
Legacy 8.0.0 build 353

I uninstalled Avast and the same error still exists preventing installation.
So Avast was not an issue here.

Installation aborts after screen
Skipping file
...\dao360.dll
Then GLBE253.tmp has stopped working

Legacy 7 and Legacy 7 Beta never had this issue on this machine.

Each attempt Temp name changes.

What info do you need, to determine why installation aborts and is
unsuccessful?





On Wed, Nov 27, 2013 at 7:08 AM, Gene Young n2...@cfl.rr.com wrote:

 On 11/26/2013 7:38 PM, Sherry/Support wrote:
  That's a problem with Avast. Turn it off when you do an install or
 update of Legacy.
 
  I just switched to a different AV program since I was getting tired of
 dealing with this every time there was a test update!
 
 
 
  Sincerely,
  Sherry
  Technical Support
  Legacy Family Tree
 
 

 I run Avast and I just installed Legacy 8.  No problems, no warnings.  It
 may not be the simplest anti-virus program to use but, as with all
 software, the more you learn about it the better it appears to become and
 the easier it becomes to use.

 --

 Gene Young
 Researching Young, Harer, Cox  Sallada
 With Legacy Family Tree
 http://myyoungs.atspace.com/index.htm

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Re: [LegacyUG] open file Legacy8

2013-11-27 Thread Randy Clark
I changed it to Always prompt but it still brings up the list of file
locations found and doesn't allow me go directly to the desired file.


On Wed, Nov 27, 2013 at 11:06 AM, Sherry/Support 
she...@legacyfamilytree.com wrote:

 Go to Options  Customize  General Settings to select your option for
 Starting Family File


 Sincerely,
 Sherry
 Technical Support
 Legacy Family Tree


 On Wed, Nov 27, 2013 at 7:43 AM, Randy Clark ceddaco...@gmail.com wrote:
  I mistakenly told it to always show me a list of files from which to
 pick.
  How do I let it allow me to navigate to the file?



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RE: [LegacyUG] PP Alert Details Hang [was: Legacy 8]

2013-11-27 Thread C.G. Ouimet
Do you have 800.353?

No Installation issues. I just turned off the Potential Problems.


C.G. Ouimet
Kingston ON


-Original Message-
From: Ron Ferguson [mailto:ronfergy@tiscali.co.uk]
Sent: November 27, 2013 11:05 AM
To: LegacyUserGroup@LegacyUsers.com
Subject: Re: [LegacyUG] PP Alert Details Hang [was: Legacy 8]

Your's might, mine doesn't. If you would like some help perhaps you can tell us 
what you have tried to resolve the problem, whether you had installation 
problems, does it apply to many different types of problems or just one?

Ron Ferguson
http://www.fergys.co.uk/

-Original Message-
From: C.G. Ouimet
Sent: Wednesday, November 27, 2013 3:17 PM
To: LegacyUserGroup@LegacyUsers.com
Subject: RE: [LegacyUG] PP Alert Details Hang [was: Legacy 8]

800.353 hangs when you do any of that ...


C.G. Ouimet
Kingston ON


-Original Message-
From: Kurt Kneeland [mailto:kurt-kneel...@sbcglobal.net]
Sent: November 27, 2013 09:59 AM
To: LegacyUserGroup@LegacyUsers.com
Subject: RE: [LegacyUG] PP Alert Details Hang [was: Legacy 8]

As you said, when you hover over a pp icon, you get options to change settings. 
Do the Shift-Right Click and then go to the Gaps tab.  There you can change the 
soon or long after marriage, and how soon or long between children to be 
flagged as a problem.

-Original Message-
From: Teresa Goatham [mailto:ter...@goatham.co.uk]
Sent: Wednesday, November 27, 2013 6:32 AM
To: LegacyUserGroup@LegacyUsers.com
Subject: Re: [LegacyUG] PP Alert Details Hang [was: Legacy 8]

I even managed to get Legacy to crash trying to turn off a Potential problem - 
not sure exactly what I did, now though, and it has'nt happened a 2nd time (but 
I have turned more off)

It seems strange to me that if I hover over the PP icon I get options to change 
my overall settings, but not to mark that particular possible problem as not an 
issue. Especially the gaps, there are loads I'd like to be able to switch off 
quickly; I know they're not a problem without clicking to see the details.

So many I may just turn off reporting for the gaps, good idea, but the numbers 
used just don't work for much of my tree. I wish I could change them, e.g. at 
one time most of the working class in England (i.e. most
people) were expecting a child when they married, so less than an 8 mth gap 
between marriage and 1st child's baptism was probably the norm, certainly very 
common. At other periods or classes it was rare, hence being able to the change 
from 8 mths would be useful.

Teresa

On 26/11/2013 22:31, John B. Lisle wrote:
 Hi,

 This has seemed to be an intermittent issue that started late in the
 testing cycle. Not everyone sees it, and it may only occur on certain
 type of PP Alerts.

 Please email me privately with details of what you see.

 thanks,
 john.

 At 04:18 PM 11/26/2013, C.G. Ouimet wrote:
 --snip --

 When clicking the Potential Problems icon in Family View or Pedigree
 View opens up Potential Problems which is good. But Clicking to view
 details, right clicking to exclude problems or shift-right clicking
 to change problem settings all result in Legacy hanging.

 Windows 7 ?

 C.G. Ouimet
 Kingston ON





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Re: [LegacyUG] open file Legacy8

2013-11-27 Thread Ron Ferguson
Randy,

OptionsCustomise1.2; although I am not sure whether you mean on start-up. If 
not perhaps you can tell us where?

Ron Ferguson
http://www.fergys.co.uk/


From: Randy Clark
Sent: Wednesday, November 27, 2013 3:43 PM
To: LegacyUserGroup@LegacyUsers.com
Subject: [LegacyUG] open file Legacy8

I mistakenly told it to always show me a list of files from which to pick. How 
do I let it allow me to navigate to the file?





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RE: [LegacyUG] open file Legacy8

2013-11-27 Thread C.G. Ouimet
How about the option to “Always Open this File”?





C.G. Ouimet

Kingston ON



From: Randy Clark [mailto:ceddaco...@gmail.com]
Sent: November 27, 2013 11:25 AM
To: LegacyUserGroup@LegacyUsers.com
Subject: Re: [LegacyUG] open file Legacy8



I changed it to Always prompt but it still brings up the list of file 
locations found and doesn't allow me go directly to the desired file.



On Wed, Nov 27, 2013 at 11:06 AM, Sherry/Support she...@legacyfamilytree.com 
wrote:

Go to Options  Customize  General Settings to select your option for
Starting Family File


Sincerely,
Sherry
Technical Support
Legacy Family Tree



On Wed, Nov 27, 2013 at 7:43 AM, Randy Clark ceddaco...@gmail.com wrote:
 I mistakenly told it to always show me a list of files from which to pick.
 How do I let it allow me to navigate to the file?



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Re: [LegacyUG] open file Legacy8

2013-11-27 Thread Randy Clark
It's when I'm working in my main file and then want to move on and work on
a different one. Picking the file from a list is only a problem because I
have so many.


On Wed, Nov 27, 2013 at 11:11 AM, Ron Ferguson
ronfergy@tiscali.co.ukwrote:

Randy,

 OptionsCustomise1.2; although I am not sure whether you mean on
 start-up. If not perhaps you can tell us where?

 Ron Ferguson
 http://www.fergys.co.uk/


  *From:* Randy Clark ceddaco...@gmail.com
 *Sent:* Wednesday, November 27, 2013 3:43 PM
 *To:* LegacyUserGroup@LegacyUsers.com
 *Subject:* [LegacyUG] open file Legacy8

  I mistakenly told it to always show me a list of files from which to
 pick. How do I let it allow me to navigate to the file?




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Re: [LegacyUG] open file Legacy8

2013-11-27 Thread Randy Clark
I almost always want to start with my main file but then want to switch.
See my response to Ron.


On Wed, Nov 27, 2013 at 11:30 AM, C.G. Ouimet c.g.oui...@outlook.comwrote:

 How about the option to “Always Open this File”?





 C.G. Ouimet

 Kingston ON



 *From:* Randy Clark [mailto:ceddaco...@gmail.com]
 *Sent:* November 27, 2013 11:25 AM
 *To:* LegacyUserGroup@LegacyUsers.com
 *Subject:* Re: [LegacyUG] open file Legacy8



 I changed it to Always prompt but it still brings up the list of file
 locations found and doesn't allow me go directly to the desired file.



 On Wed, Nov 27, 2013 at 11:06 AM, Sherry/Support 
 she...@legacyfamilytree.com wrote:

 Go to Options  Customize  General Settings to select your option for
 Starting Family File


 Sincerely,
 Sherry
 Technical Support
 Legacy Family Tree



 On Wed, Nov 27, 2013 at 7:43 AM, Randy Clark ceddaco...@gmail.com wrote:
  I mistakenly told it to always show me a list of files from which to
 pick.
  How do I let it allow me to navigate to the file?



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RE: [LegacyUG] open file Legacy8

2013-11-27 Thread C.G. Ouimet
I only have one file. I always work in that one file. No risk of individuals 
being duplicated across a number of files with some files developing different 
info on these common individuals. Occasionally, I create a sub-file from that 
one file for sharing purposes.





C.G. Ouimet

Kingston ON



From: Randy Clark [mailto:ceddaco...@gmail.com]
Sent: November 27, 2013 11:35 AM
To: LegacyUserGroup@LegacyUsers.com
Subject: Re: [LegacyUG] open file Legacy8



I almost always want to start with my main file but then want to switch. See my 
response to Ron.



On Wed, Nov 27, 2013 at 11:30 AM, C.G. Ouimet c.g.oui...@outlook.com wrote:

How about the option to “Always Open this File”?





C.G. Ouimet

Kingston ON



From: Randy Clark [mailto:ceddaco...@gmail.com]
Sent: November 27, 2013 11:25 AM
To: LegacyUserGroup@LegacyUsers.com
Subject: Re: [LegacyUG] open file Legacy8



I changed it to Always prompt but it still brings up the list of file 
locations found and doesn't allow me go directly to the desired file.



On Wed, Nov 27, 2013 at 11:06 AM, Sherry/Support she...@legacyfamilytree.com 
wrote:

Go to Options  Customize  General Settings to select your option for
Starting Family File


Sincerely,
Sherry
Technical Support
Legacy Family Tree



On Wed, Nov 27, 2013 at 7:43 AM, Randy Clark ceddaco...@gmail.com wrote:
 I mistakenly told it to always show me a list of files from which to pick.
 How do I let it allow me to navigate to the file?



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RE: [LegacyUG] open file Legacy8

2013-11-27 Thread Kurt Kneeland
Sherry,

I don't think that is what Randy was referring to.  He was talking about the 
action of the File-Open File function.  By default, it asks if you want a list 
of Legacy Files or to use the Windows File Manager.  It also has options to say 
always use one or the other.  The problem is once you've chosen one of those 
Always options, you seem to be stuck with it.  There's nothing under File-Open 
File or under Customize to change or undo the selection.

I did find that Restore Legacy Defaults will reset the function of File-File 
Open.  However, that also wipes out any other customizations.  Tried getting 
around that by saving my customizations before resetting to Legacy defaults, 
but when I then restored my User Defaults, it also returned the File-File-Open 
action to the locked in mode.

An alternative that might work is to save customizations on a section by 
section basis, excluding the General Settings, then do a global reset to Legacy 
Defaults, and then restore each section of customized settings, and manually 
reset the General Settings.  This of course assumes that the File-File Open 
option setting is saved and restored with the General Settings even though 
there is no function to set/reset it on the General Settings list.

Randy,

Another workaround for you might be, with Legacy closed, to go to Windows file 
manager, find your .fdb file and double click it.  It should open in Legacy.  
Thereafter, it should be on that Legacy File List that your File-Open File 
function is locked in to.

-Original Message-
From: Sherry/Support [mailto:she...@legacyfamilytree.com]
Sent: Wednesday, November 27, 2013 10:07 AM
To: LegacyUserGroup@LegacyUsers.com
Subject: Re: [LegacyUG] open file Legacy8

Go to Options  Customize  General Settings to select your option for 
Starting Family File


Sincerely,
Sherry
Technical Support
Legacy Family Tree


On Wed, Nov 27, 2013 at 7:43 AM, Randy Clark ceddaco...@gmail.com wrote:
 I mistakenly told it to always show me a list of files from which to pick.
 How do I let it allow me to navigate to the file?



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Re: [LegacyUG] open file Legacy8

2013-11-27 Thread Bert van Kootwijk
Option 12.5 Messages at the bottom of the window

Bert
  - Original Message -
  From: Kurt Kneeland
  To: LegacyUserGroup@LegacyUsers.com
  Sent: Wednesday, November 27, 2013 5:07 PM
  Subject: RE: [LegacyUG] open file Legacy8


  I see what you mean.  I set mine the other way (always use Windows) and now 
there does not seem to any way to get back to the original setting. The F1 on 
Open File only brings up help about the Family View screen, and I see nothing 
in Customize to affect this setting.



  From: Randy Clark [mailto:ceddaco...@gmail.com]
  Sent: Wednesday, November 27, 2013 9:43 AM
  To: LegacyUserGroup@LegacyUsers.com
  Subject: [LegacyUG] open file Legacy8



  I mistakenly told it to always show me a list of files from which to pick. 
How do I let it allow me to navigate to the file?






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Re: [LegacyUG] open file Legacy8

2013-11-27 Thread Randy Clark
Thank you! It worked perfectly.


On Wed, Nov 27, 2013 at 11:21 AM, Bert van Kootwijk vank...@hetnet.nlwrote:

  Option 12.5 Messages at the bottom of the window

 Bert

 - Original Message -
 *From:* Kurt Kneeland kurt-kneel...@sbcglobal.net
 *To:* LegacyUserGroup@LegacyUsers.com
 *Sent:* Wednesday, November 27, 2013 5:07 PM
 *Subject:* RE: [LegacyUG] open file Legacy8

  I see what you mean.  I set mine the other way (always use Windows) and
 now there does not seem to any way to get back to the original setting. The
 F1 on Open File only brings up help about the Family View screen, and I see
 nothing in Customize to affect this setting.



 *From:* Randy Clark [mailto:ceddaco...@gmail.com]
 *Sent:* Wednesday, November 27, 2013 9:43 AM
 *To:* LegacyUserGroup@LegacyUsers.com
 *Subject:* [LegacyUG] open file Legacy8



 I mistakenly told it to always show me a list of files from which to pick.
 How do I let it allow me to navigate to the file?







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Re: [LegacyUG] open file Legacy8

2013-11-27 Thread Randy Clark
Bert found it. It's Option 12.5. Thanks to all who tried to help.


On Wed, Nov 27, 2013 at 11:44 AM, Kurt Kneeland kurt-kneel...@sbcglobal.net
 wrote:

 Sherry,

 I don't think that is what Randy was referring to.  He was talking about
 the action of the File-Open File function.  By default, it asks if you
 want a list of Legacy Files or to use the Windows File Manager.  It also
 has options to say always use one or the other.  The problem is once you've
 chosen one of those Always options, you seem to be stuck with it.  There's
 nothing under File-Open File or under Customize to change or undo the
 selection.

 I did find that Restore Legacy Defaults will reset the function of
 File-File Open.  However, that also wipes out any other customizations.
  Tried getting around that by saving my customizations before resetting to
 Legacy defaults, but when I then restored my User Defaults, it also
 returned the File-File-Open action to the locked in mode.

 An alternative that might work is to save customizations on a section by
 section basis, excluding the General Settings, then do a global reset to
 Legacy Defaults, and then restore each section of customized settings, and
 manually reset the General Settings.  This of course assumes that the
 File-File Open option setting is saved and restored with the General
 Settings even though there is no function to set/reset it on the General
 Settings list.

 Randy,

 Another workaround for you might be, with Legacy closed, to go to Windows
 file manager, find your .fdb file and double click it.  It should open in
 Legacy.  Thereafter, it should be on that Legacy File List that your
 File-Open File function is locked in to.

 -Original Message-
 From: Sherry/Support [mailto:she...@legacyfamilytree.com]
 Sent: Wednesday, November 27, 2013 10:07 AM
 To: LegacyUserGroup@LegacyUsers.com
 Subject: Re: [LegacyUG] open file Legacy8

 Go to Options  Customize  General Settings to select your option for
 Starting Family File


 Sincerely,
 Sherry
 Technical Support
 Legacy Family Tree


 On Wed, Nov 27, 2013 at 7:43 AM, Randy Clark ceddaco...@gmail.com wrote:
  I mistakenly told it to always show me a list of files from which to
 pick.
  How do I let it allow me to navigate to the file?



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RE: [LegacyUG] open file Legacy8

2013-11-27 Thread C.G. Ouimet
A list of recent files would be helpful like you get with MS Office 
applications. Especially useful when you pin favourites ...


C.G. Ouimet
Kingston ON


-Original Message-
From: Kurt Kneeland [mailto:kurt-kneel...@sbcglobal.net]
Sent: November 27, 2013 11:44 AM
To: LegacyUserGroup@LegacyUsers.com
Subject: RE: [LegacyUG] open file Legacy8

Sherry,

I don't think that is what Randy was referring to.  He was talking about the 
action of the File-Open File function.  By default, it asks if you want a list 
of Legacy Files or to use the Windows File Manager.  It also has options to say 
always use one or the other.  The problem is once you've chosen one of those 
Always options, you seem to be stuck with it.  There's nothing under File-Open 
File or under Customize to change or undo the selection.

I did find that Restore Legacy Defaults will reset the function of File-File 
Open.  However, that also wipes out any other customizations.  Tried getting 
around that by saving my customizations before resetting to Legacy defaults, 
but when I then restored my User Defaults, it also returned the File-File-Open 
action to the locked in mode.

An alternative that might work is to save customizations on a section by 
section basis, excluding the General Settings, then do a global reset to Legacy 
Defaults, and then restore each section of customized settings, and manually 
reset the General Settings.  This of course assumes that the File-File Open 
option setting is saved and restored with the General Settings even though 
there is no function to set/reset it on the General Settings list.

Randy,

Another workaround for you might be, with Legacy closed, to go to Windows file 
manager, find your .fdb file and double click it.  It should open in Legacy.  
Thereafter, it should be on that Legacy File List that your File-Open File 
function is locked in to.

-Original Message-
From: Sherry/Support [mailto:she...@legacyfamilytree.com]
Sent: Wednesday, November 27, 2013 10:07 AM
To: LegacyUserGroup@LegacyUsers.com
Subject: Re: [LegacyUG] open file Legacy8

Go to Options  Customize  General Settings to select your option for 
Starting Family File


Sincerely,
Sherry
Technical Support
Legacy Family Tree


On Wed, Nov 27, 2013 at 7:43 AM, Randy Clark ceddaco...@gmail.com wrote:
 I mistakenly told it to always show me a list of files from which to pick.
 How do I let it allow me to navigate to the file?



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Re: [LegacyUG] open file Legacy8

2013-11-27 Thread Sherry/Support
Then he needs to go to Options  Customize  Other Settings, click on
the Turn on or off Optional Reminder Messages. On the Messages tab
he'll find the option When opening a Legacy File, prompt to use
dialog box or create list


Sincerely,
Sherry
Technical Support
Legacy Family Tree


On Wed, Nov 27, 2013 at 8:44 AM, Kurt Kneeland
kurt-kneel...@sbcglobal.net wrote:
 Sherry,

 I don't think that is what Randy was referring to.  He was talking about the 
 action of the File-Open File function.  By default, it asks if you want a 
 list of Legacy Files or to use the Windows File Manager.  It also has options 
 to say always use one or the other.  The problem is once you've chosen one of 
 those Always options, you seem to be stuck with it.  There's nothing under 
 File-Open File or under Customize to change or undo the selection.




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RE: [LegacyUG] Legacy 8 Installation - GLBF797.tmp

2013-11-27 Thread Don Hanson
John,

Many anti-malware programs have ‘memory resident’ components. Uninstalling is 
only part of the process. The computer must be restarted after the uninstall 
for memory to be cleared of those components. Still others, are written to 
protect against malware uninstalling or disabling the program. Still others can 
not be removed using the ADD/REMOVE PROGRAMS in control panel (Avast! being 
one) For those you need to use a special uninstall program. You can find the 
one for Avast! on their website: http://www.avast.com/uninstall-utility. Be 
sure to follow the directions on that page, which includes starting Windows in 
Safe Mode before starting the utility and restarting the computer. Only then 
will you have uninstalled Avast!.



You may then be able to install Legacy 8. But…if you are installing from a 
download, not a CD, it’s possible that the downloaded file is corrupted. If 
installation fails after fully deleting Avast, download the installation file 
again.



Don



From: John Magyari [mailto:jmagy...@gmail.com]
Sent: Wednesday, November 27, 2013 10:21 AM
To: LegacyUserGroup@LegacyUsers.com
Subject: Re: [LegacyUG] Legacy 8 Installation - GLBF797.tmp



Windows 7 sp1 Memory 6 meg Intel Core i7

No Antivirus installed

Legacy 8.0.0 build 353



I uninstalled Avast and the same error still exists preventing installation.

So Avast was not an issue here.



Installation aborts after screen

Skipping file

...\dao360.dll

Then GLBE253.tmp has stopped working



Legacy 7 and Legacy 7 Beta never had this issue on this machine.



Each attempt Temp name changes.



What info do you need, to determine why installation aborts and is unsuccessful?









On Wed, Nov 27, 2013 at 7:08 AM, Gene Young n2...@cfl.rr.com wrote:

On 11/26/2013 7:38 PM, Sherry/Support wrote:
 That's a problem with Avast. Turn it off when you do an install or update of 
 Legacy.

 I just switched to a different AV program since I was getting tired of 
 dealing with this every time there was a test update!



 Sincerely,
 Sherry
 Technical Support
 Legacy Family Tree



I run Avast and I just installed Legacy 8.  No problems, no warnings.  It may 
not be the simplest anti-virus program to use but, as with all software, the 
more you learn about it the better it appears to become and the easier it 
becomes to use.

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RE: [LegacyUG] open file Legacy8

2013-11-27 Thread Kurt Kneeland
Good show!!  That’s the customize option we couldn’t find.  Odd place for it.



From: Bert van Kootwijk [mailto:vank...@hetnet.nl]
Sent: Wednesday, November 27, 2013 10:21 AM
To: LegacyUserGroup@LegacyUsers.com
Subject: Re: [LegacyUG] open file Legacy8



Option 12.5 Messages at the bottom of the window



Bert

- Original Message -

From: Kurt Kneeland mailto:kurt-kneel...@sbcglobal.net

To: LegacyUserGroup@LegacyUsers.com

Sent: Wednesday, November 27, 2013 5:07 PM

Subject: RE: [LegacyUG] open file Legacy8



I see what you mean.  I set mine the other way (always use Windows) and now 
there does not seem to any way to get back to the original setting. The F1 on 
Open File only brings up help about the Family View screen, and I see nothing 
in Customize to affect this setting.



From: Randy Clark [mailto:ceddaco...@gmail.com]
Sent: Wednesday, November 27, 2013 9:43 AM
To: LegacyUserGroup@LegacyUsers.com
Subject: [LegacyUG] open file Legacy8



I mistakenly told it to always show me a list of files from which to pick. How 
do I let it allow me to navigate to the file?







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[LegacyUG] Shared events

2013-11-27 Thread Brant Gibbard
Has anyone had a chance to experiment with Shared Events, and if so, what
was your experience with it. I am particularly interested in seeing how
gedcom export is handled. To the best of my knowledge gedcom does not
intrinsically support shared events. What happens when a shared event is
exported to gedcom? Is a separate event made for each participant?  I ask
because I publish my data through TNG, and I would like to have some idea as
to whether shared events will cooperate with my scenario.



Brant Gibbard
Toronto, ON
 http://bgibbard.ca/ http://bgibbard.ca








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Re: [LegacyUG] open file Legacy8

2013-11-27 Thread Randy Clark
I think you can see them by clicking the big L in the upper left.


On Wed, Nov 27, 2013 at 11:52 AM, C.G. Ouimet c.g.oui...@outlook.comwrote:

 A list of recent files would be helpful like you get with MS Office
 applications. Especially useful when you pin favourites ...


 C.G. Ouimet
 Kingston ON


 -Original Message-
 From: Kurt Kneeland [mailto:kurt-kneel...@sbcglobal.net]
 Sent: November 27, 2013 11:44 AM
 To: LegacyUserGroup@LegacyUsers.com
 Subject: RE: [LegacyUG] open file Legacy8

 Sherry,

 I don't think that is what Randy was referring to.  He was talking about
 the action of the File-Open File function.  By default, it asks if you
 want a list of Legacy Files or to use the Windows File Manager.  It also
 has options to say always use one or the other.  The problem is once you've
 chosen one of those Always options, you seem to be stuck with it.  There's
 nothing under File-Open File or under Customize to change or undo the
 selection.

 I did find that Restore Legacy Defaults will reset the function of
 File-File Open.  However, that also wipes out any other customizations.
  Tried getting around that by saving my customizations before resetting to
 Legacy defaults, but when I then restored my User Defaults, it also
 returned the File-File-Open action to the locked in mode.

 An alternative that might work is to save customizations on a section by
 section basis, excluding the General Settings, then do a global reset to
 Legacy Defaults, and then restore each section of customized settings, and
 manually reset the General Settings.  This of course assumes that the
 File-File Open option setting is saved and restored with the General
 Settings even though there is no function to set/reset it on the General
 Settings list.

 Randy,

 Another workaround for you might be, with Legacy closed, to go to Windows
 file manager, find your .fdb file and double click it.  It should open in
 Legacy.  Thereafter, it should be on that Legacy File List that your
 File-Open File function is locked in to.

 -Original Message-
 From: Sherry/Support [mailto:she...@legacyfamilytree.com]
 Sent: Wednesday, November 27, 2013 10:07 AM
 To: LegacyUserGroup@LegacyUsers.com
 Subject: Re: [LegacyUG] open file Legacy8

 Go to Options  Customize  General Settings to select your option for
 Starting Family File


 Sincerely,
 Sherry
 Technical Support
 Legacy Family Tree


 On Wed, Nov 27, 2013 at 7:43 AM, Randy Clark ceddaco...@gmail.com wrote:
  I mistakenly told it to always show me a list of files from which to
 pick.
  How do I let it allow me to navigate to the file?



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RE: [LegacyUG] Legacy 8 Import Legacy 7.5 data

2013-11-27 Thread Bobby Johnson
Thanks Kathy and John.  I had no earlier data to use to check this out.  Sounds 
as though there should be no problems.  Kathy, I did not restore a file, I 
imported it.  I think I will try a restore and see how that works.
Bobby
_
John wrote:
Bobby,

Based on testing that some of the other testers have done, family
files as early as Legacy 4 were converted properly.

john.





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RE: [LegacyUG] open file Legacy8

2013-11-27 Thread C.G. Ouimet
Cool … Odd place though …





C.G. Ouimet

Kingston ON



From: Randy Clark [mailto:ceddaco...@gmail.com]
Sent: November 27, 2013 12:07 PM
To: LegacyUserGroup@LegacyUsers.com
Subject: Re: [LegacyUG] open file Legacy8



I think you can see them by clicking the big L in the upper left.



On Wed, Nov 27, 2013 at 11:52 AM, C.G. Ouimet c.g.oui...@outlook.com wrote:

A list of recent files would be helpful like you get with MS Office 
applications. Especially useful when you pin favourites ...


C.G. Ouimet
Kingston ON



-Original Message-
From: Kurt Kneeland [mailto:kurt-kneel...@sbcglobal.net]
Sent: November 27, 2013 11:44 AM
To: LegacyUserGroup@LegacyUsers.com
Subject: RE: [LegacyUG] open file Legacy8

Sherry,

I don't think that is what Randy was referring to.  He was talking about the 
action of the File-Open File function.  By default, it asks if you want a list 
of Legacy Files or to use the Windows File Manager.  It also has options to say 
always use one or the other.  The problem is once you've chosen one of those 
Always options, you seem to be stuck with it.  There's nothing under File-Open 
File or under Customize to change or undo the selection.

I did find that Restore Legacy Defaults will reset the function of File-File 
Open.  However, that also wipes out any other customizations.  Tried getting 
around that by saving my customizations before resetting to Legacy defaults, 
but when I then restored my User Defaults, it also returned the File-File-Open 
action to the locked in mode.

An alternative that might work is to save customizations on a section by 
section basis, excluding the General Settings, then do a global reset to Legacy 
Defaults, and then restore each section of customized settings, and manually 
reset the General Settings.  This of course assumes that the File-File Open 
option setting is saved and restored with the General Settings even though 
there is no function to set/reset it on the General Settings list.

Randy,

Another workaround for you might be, with Legacy closed, to go to Windows file 
manager, find your .fdb file and double click it.  It should open in Legacy.  
Thereafter, it should be on that Legacy File List that your File-Open File 
function is locked in to.

-Original Message-
From: Sherry/Support [mailto:she...@legacyfamilytree.com]
Sent: Wednesday, November 27, 2013 10:07 AM
To: LegacyUserGroup@LegacyUsers.com
Subject: Re: [LegacyUG] open file Legacy8

Go to Options  Customize  General Settings to select your option for 
Starting Family File


Sincerely,
Sherry
Technical Support
Legacy Family Tree


On Wed, Nov 27, 2013 at 7:43 AM, Randy Clark ceddaco...@gmail.com wrote:
 I mistakenly told it to always show me a list of files from which to pick.
 How do I let it allow me to navigate to the file?



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[LegacyUG] import Version 7 custom settings to V8

2013-11-27 Thread Gene Young
Has anyone seen how, or if, this is possible?  A quick search of the help file 
did not turn up any reference to this.
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Re: [LegacyUG] Legacy 8 Installation - GLBF797.tmp

2013-11-27 Thread John B. Lisle


John,
I suspect that the initial failed install is now blocking your PC from
installing Legacy.
GLBF797.tmp is not the installer. It is a temporary file created by the
downloaded installer program on your PC. If it is still sitting on your
PC, find it and delete it.
Then try restarting the installation with the Legacy8setup.exe file that
you downloaded. You might even want to start by downloading a new copy as
the copy you have may be incomplete.
If this does not work, then I suggest you contact support directly for
additional help.
john.
At 11:21 AM 11/27/2013, John Magyari wrote:
Windows 7 sp1 Memory 6 meg Intel
Core i7
No Antivirus installed
Legacy 8.0.0 build 353
 
I uninstalled Avast and the same error still exists preventing
installation.
So Avast was not an issue here.
 
Installation aborts after screen
Skipping file
...\dao360.dll
Then GLBE253.tmp has stopped working
 
Legacy 7 and Legacy 7 Beta never had this issue on this machine.
 
Each attempt Temp name changes.
 
What info do you need, to determine why installation aborts and is
unsuccessful?
 
 
 

On Wed, Nov 27, 2013 at 7:08 AM, Gene Young
n2...@cfl.rr.com
wrote:


On 11/26/2013 7:38 PM, Sherry/Support wrote:

 That's a problem with Avast. Turn it off when you do an install
or update of Legacy.



 I just switched to a different AV program since I was getting
tired of dealing with this every time there was a test update!







 Sincerely,

 Sherry

 Technical Support

 Legacy Family Tree





I run Avast and I just installed Legacy 8. Â No problems, no
warnings. Â It may not be the simplest anti-virus program to use but, as
with all software, the more you learn about it the better it appears to
become and the easier it becomes to use.


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Re: [LegacyUG] PP Alert Details Hang [was: Legacy 8]

2013-11-27 Thread John B. Lisle
Ron,

There is a problem with PP Alerts and Legacy hanging. It does not
happen for everyone. Only my GR build showed the problem.

I discovered that, if I renamed the USR file in [My Documents], the
problem goes away. This tells me that it is a conflict between
various settings.

If have forwarded the issue to developers.

john.

At 11:04 AM 11/27/2013, Ron Ferguson wrote:
Your's might, mine doesn't. If you would like some help perhaps you can tell
us what you have tried to resolve the problem, whether you had installation
problems, does it apply to many different types of problems or just one?

Ron Ferguson
http://www.fergys.co.uk/

-Original Message-
From: C.G. Ouimet
Sent: Wednesday, November 27, 2013 3:17 PM
To: LegacyUserGroup@LegacyUsers.com
Subject: RE: [LegacyUG] PP Alert Details Hang [was: Legacy 8]

800.353 hangs when you do any of that ...


C.G. Ouimet
Kingston ON


-Original Message-
From: Kurt Kneeland [mailto:kurt-kneel...@sbcglobal.net]
Sent: November 27, 2013 09:59 AM
To: LegacyUserGroup@LegacyUsers.com
Subject: RE: [LegacyUG] PP Alert Details Hang [was: Legacy 8]

As you said, when you hover over a pp icon, you get options to change
settings. Do the Shift-Right Click and then go to the Gaps tab.  There you
can change the soon or long after marriage, and how soon or long between
children to be flagged as a problem.

-Original Message-
From: Teresa Goatham [mailto:ter...@goatham.co.uk]
Sent: Wednesday, November 27, 2013 6:32 AM
To: LegacyUserGroup@LegacyUsers.com
Subject: Re: [LegacyUG] PP Alert Details Hang [was: Legacy 8]

I even managed to get Legacy to crash trying to turn off a Potential
problem - not sure exactly what I did, now though, and it has'nt happened a
2nd time (but I have turned more off)

It seems strange to me that if I hover over the PP icon I get options to
change my overall settings, but not to mark that particular possible problem
as not an issue. Especially the gaps, there are loads I'd like to be able to
switch off quickly; I know they're not a problem without clicking to see the
details.

So many I may just turn off reporting for the gaps, good idea, but the
numbers used just don't work for much of my tree. I wish I could change
them, e.g. at one time most of the working class in England (i.e. most
people) were expecting a child when they married, so less than an 8 mth gap
between marriage and 1st child's baptism was probably the norm, certainly
very common. At other periods or classes it was rare, hence being able to
the change from 8 mths would be useful.

Teresa

On 26/11/2013 22:31, John B. Lisle wrote:
  Hi,
 
  This has seemed to be an intermittent issue that started late in the
  testing cycle. Not everyone sees it, and it may only occur on certain
  type of PP Alerts.
 
  Please email me privately with details of what you see.
 
  thanks,
  john.
 
  At 04:18 PM 11/26/2013, C.G. Ouimet wrote:
  --snip --
 
  When clicking the Potential Problems icon in Family View or Pedigree
  View opens up Potential Problems which is good. But Clicking to view
  details, right clicking to exclude problems or shift-right clicking
  to change problem settings all result in Legacy hanging.
 
  Windows 7 ?
 
  C.G. Ouimet
  Kingston ON
 




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Re: [LegacyUG] Legacy 8 Installation - GLBF797.tmp

2013-11-27 Thread John B. Lisle
Gene,

Are you using the Free Avast AV or the Avast Internet Security? I
believe the problem is with the Internet Security version only. Some
of the secondary Windows issues are only appearing with Win 7 and above.

john.

At 08:08 AM 11/27/2013, Gene Young wrote:
On 11/26/2013 7:38 PM, Sherry/Support wrote:
  That's a problem with Avast. Turn it off when you do an install
 or update of Legacy.
 
  I just switched to a different AV program since I was getting
 tired of dealing with this every time there was a test update!
 
 
 
  Sincerely,
  Sherry
  Technical Support
  Legacy Family Tree
 
 

I run Avast and I just installed Legacy 8.  No problems, no
warnings.  It may not be the simplest anti-virus program to use but,
as with all software, the more you learn about it the better it
appears to become and the easier it becomes to use.

--

Gene Young
Researching Young, Harer, Cox  Sallada
With Legacy Family Tree
http://myyoungs.atspace.com/index.htm

---
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Re: [LegacyUG] PP Alert Details Hang [was: Legacy 8]

2013-11-27 Thread John B. Lisle
Teresa,

You setup the GAPs parameters in the Potential
Problems Report. The settings you use there are
in effect for all of the PP Alerts.

john.

At 07:32 AM 11/27/2013, Teresa Goatham wrote:
I even managed to get Legacy to crash trying to turn off a Potential
problem - not sure exactly what I did, now though, and it has'nt
happened a 2nd time (but I have turned more off)

It seems strange to me that if I hover over the PP icon I get options to
change my overall settings, but not to mark that particular possible
problem as not an issue. Especially the gaps, there are loads I'd like
to be able to switch off quickly; I know they're not a problem without
clicking to see the details.

So many I may just turn off reporting for the gaps, good idea, but the
numbers used just don't work for much of my tree. I wish I could change
them, e.g. at one time most of the working class in England (i.e. most
people) were expecting a child when they married, so less than an 8 mth
gap between marriage and 1st child's baptism was probably the norm,
certainly very common. At other periods or classes it was rare, hence
being able to the change from 8 mths would be useful.

Teresa

On 26/11/2013 22:31, John B. Lisle wrote:
  Hi,
 
  This has seemed to be an intermittent issue that
  started late in the testing cycle. Not everyone
  sees it, and it may only occur on certain type of PP Alerts.
 
  Please email me privately with details of what you see.
 
  thanks,
  john.
 
  At 04:18 PM 11/26/2013, C.G. Ouimet wrote:
  --snip --
 
  When clicking the Potential Problems icon in
  Family View or Pedigree View opens up Potential
  Problems which is good. But Clicking to view
  details, right clicking to exclude problems or
  shift-right clicking to change problem
 settings all result in Legacy hanging.
 
  Windows 7 …
 
  C.G. Ouimet
  Kingston ON




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[LegacyUG] Legacy Version 8.0

2013-11-27 Thread Elizabeth Hatchell
Does anyone have any hints about version 8.0 please?  I have version 7.5.0
with the latest update deluxe edition and am considering upgrading.

ElizMaryH



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Re: [LegacyUG] open file Legacy8

2013-11-27 Thread John B. Lisle


Randy,
Legacy 8 has lots of flexibility with respect to files.
The first thing you need to do is go to option 12.5 to reset how you
select a new file.
I also have a lot of files. I have them in a folder on my D drive. That
is where I expect to find a file. So... I set Option 6.1 to that folder
and that is where Legacy always starts with the navigation.
Option 1.2 controls which Family file to open when you start
Legacy.
Now... do you see the big L in a circle on the top left? Click on that
and you will see the list of the last 10 Family Files that you have
opened.
Does this answer your question?
john.

At 11:35 AM 11/27/2013, you wrote:
I almost always want to start
with my main file but then want to switch. See my response to
Ron.

On Wed, Nov 27, 2013 at 11:30 AM, C.G. Ouimet
c.g.oui...@outlook.com
 wrote:



How about the option to “Always Open this File”?

 

 

C.G. Ouimet

Kingston ON

 

From: Randy Clark
[
mailto:ceddaco...@gmail.com] 

Sent: November 27, 2013 11:25 AM

To: LegacyUserGroup@LegacyUsers.com

Subject: Re: [LegacyUG] open file Legacy8

 

I changed it to Always prompt but it still brings up the
list of file locations found and doesn't allow me go directly to the
desired file.

 

On Wed, Nov 27, 2013 at 11:06 AM, Sherry/Support

she...@legacyfamilytree.com wrote:

Go to Options  Customize  General Settings to select your
option for

Starting Family File


Sincerely,

Sherry

Technical Support

Legacy Family Tree


On Wed, Nov 27, 2013 at 7:43 AM, Randy Clark
ceddaco...@gmail.com
wrote:

 I mistakenly told it to always show me a list of files from
which to pick.

 How do I let it allow me to navigate to the file?


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Re: [LegacyUG] Delete 7.5?

2013-11-27 Thread Carl Cox

Carl,

Whilst I agree with your praise for the Legacy program, and I am sure that
Legacy will be delighted with your undoubted loyalty, you have not given me
one reason why I would spend money to upgrade.

For me, I need to see technical improvements, and/or, additional functions
which I need - not the same as mere additional functions!! As it is, V8.0
does give this, especially with Event Sharing, the return of the 5 sourcing
options, the loss of which was lamented by many of us, the improved Family
Search option (although I recognise the caveats with family trees) and I
really do like the new design options, and much more.

Are there things which I would have liked which are not there? Sure but
there is sufficient there to raise my interest.

Ron Ferguson


My comments had nothing to do with the new bells and whistles on an upgrade,
just that the laborer is worthy of his hire. We still get support from
Legacy, with or without the upgrades. I have no idea how the company is
doing financially, but I think the cost is less than most other programs,
and keeping them in business seems worthwhile to me. If I recall correctly,
my first taste of Legacy was around $50, and for my use of the program it
was well worth it, even though I am on a very limited budget. Others may see
it differently.

Carl




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RE: [LegacyUG] open file Legacy8

2013-11-27 Thread John B. Lisle


Nope. That is where they are for the Microsoft Applications.
john.
At 12:14 PM 11/27/2013, C.G. Ouimet wrote:
Cool … Odd place though
…


C.G. Ouimet
Kingston ON

From: Randy Clark
[
mailto:ceddaco...@gmail.com] 
Sent: November 27, 2013 12:07 PM
To: LegacyUserGroup@LegacyUsers.com
Subject: Re: [LegacyUG] open file Legacy8

I think you can see them by clicking the big L in the upper
left.

On Wed, Nov 27, 2013 at 11:52 AM, C.G. Ouimet
c.g.oui...@outlook.com
 wrote:
A list of recent files would be helpful like you get with MS Office
applications. Especially useful when you pin favourites ...

C.G. Ouimet
Kingston ON

-Original Message-
From: Kurt Kneeland
[
mailto:kurt-kneel...@sbcglobal.net]
Sent: November 27, 2013 11:44 AM
To:

LegacyUserGroup@LegacyUsers.com
Subject: RE: [LegacyUG] open file Legacy8
Sherry,
I don't think that is what Randy was referring to. He was talking
about the action of the File-Open File function. By default, it
asks if you want a list of Legacy Files or to use the Windows File
Manager. It also has options to say always use one or the
other. The problem is once you've chosen one of those Always
options, you seem to be stuck with it. There's nothing under
File-Open File or under Customize to change or undo the
selection.
I did find that Restore Legacy Defaults will reset the function of
File-File Open. However, that also wipes out any other
customizations. Tried getting around that by saving my
customizations before resetting to Legacy defaults, but when I then
restored my User Defaults, it also returned the File-File-Open action
to the locked in mode.
An alternative that might work is to save customizations on a section by
section basis, excluding the General Settings, then do a global reset to
Legacy Defaults, and then restore each section of customized settings,
and manually reset the General Settings. This of course assumes
that the File-File Open option setting is saved and restored with the
General Settings even though there is no function to set/reset it on the
General Settings list.

Randy,
Another workaround for you might be, with Legacy closed, to go to Windows
file manager, find your .fdb file and double click it. It should
open in Legacy. Thereafter, it should be on that Legacy File List
that your File-Open File function is locked in to.
-Original Message-
From: Sherry/Support
[
mailto:she...@legacyfamilytree.com]
Sent: Wednesday, November 27, 2013 10:07 AM
To:

LegacyUserGroup@LegacyUsers.com
Subject: Re: [LegacyUG] open file Legacy8
Go to Options  Customize  General Settings to select your option
for Starting Family File

Sincerely,
Sherry
Technical Support
Legacy Family Tree

On Wed, Nov 27, 2013 at 7:43 AM, Randy Clark
ceddaco...@gmail.com
wrote:
 I mistakenly told it to always show me a list of files from which to
pick.
 How do I let it allow me to navigate to the
file?



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Re: [LegacyUG] open file Legacy8

2013-11-27 Thread Randy Clark
Yes. Thanks. It was Option 12.5 that had been hiding from me.


On Wed, Nov 27, 2013 at 12:14 PM, John B. Lisle leg...@tqsi.com wrote:

  Randy,

 Legacy 8 has lots of flexibility with respect to files.

 The first thing you need to do is go to option 12.5 to reset how you
 select a new file.

 I also have a lot of files. I have them in a folder on my D drive. That is
 where I expect to find a file. So... I set Option 6.1 to that folder and
 that is where Legacy always starts with the navigation.

 Option 1.2 controls which Family file to open when you start Legacy.

 Now... do you see the big L in a circle on the top left? Click on that and
 you will see the list of the last 10 Family Files that you have opened.

 Does this answer your question?

 john.



 At 11:35 AM 11/27/2013, you wrote:

 I almost always want to start with my main file but then want to switch.
 See my response to Ron.


 On Wed, Nov 27, 2013 at 11:30 AM, C.G. Ouimet c.g.oui...@outlook.com 
 wrote:

 How about the option to “Always Open this File†?

 Â

 Â

 C.G. Ouimet

 Kingston ON

 Â

 From: Randy Clark [ mailto:ceddaco...@gmail.com ceddaco...@gmail.com]
 Sent: November 27, 2013 11:25 AM
 To: LegacyUserGroup@LegacyUsers.com
 Subject: Re: [LegacyUG] open file Legacy8

 Â

 I changed it to Always prompt but it still brings up the list of file
 locations found and doesn't allow me go directly to the desired file.

 Â

 On Wed, Nov 27, 2013 at 11:06 AM, Sherry/Support she...@legacyfamilytree.com
 wrote:

 Go to Options  Customize  General Settings to select your option for
 Starting Family File


 Sincerely,
 Sherry
 Technical Support
 Legacy Family Tree



 On Wed, Nov 27, 2013 at 7:43 AM, Randy Clark ceddaco...@gmail.com wrote:
  I mistakenly told it to always show me a list of files from which to
 pick.
  How do I let it allow me to navigate to the file?



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RE: [LegacyUG] open file Legacy8

2013-11-27 Thread C.G. Ouimet
Not in Office 2010. I can’t remember enough about 2003 and 2007. Which Office 
do you have?





C.G. Ouimet

Kingston ON



From: John B. Lisle [mailto:leg...@tqsi.com]
Sent: November 27, 2013 12:42 PM
To: LegacyUserGroup@LegacyUsers.com
Subject: RE: [LegacyUG] open file Legacy8



Nope. That is where they are for the Microsoft Applications.

john.

At 12:14 PM 11/27/2013, C.G. Ouimet wrote:



Cool … Odd place though …



C.G. Ouimet
Kingston ON

From: Randy Clark [ mailto:ceddaco...@gmail.com mailto:ceddaco...@gmail.com ]
Sent: November 27, 2013 12:07 PM
To: LegacyUserGroup@LegacyUsers.com
Subject: Re: [LegacyUG] open file Legacy8

I think you can see them by clicking the big L in the upper left.

On Wed, Nov 27, 2013 at 11:52 AM, C.G. Ouimet c.g.oui...@outlook.com  wrote:
A list of recent files would be helpful like you get with MS Office 
applications. Especially useful when you pin favourites ...


C.G. Ouimet
Kingston ON


-Original Message-
From: Kurt Kneeland [ mailto:kurt-kneel...@sbcglobal.net 
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Sent: November 27, 2013 11:44 AM
To: LegacyUserGroup@LegacyUsers.com
Subject: RE: [LegacyUG] open file Legacy8
Sherry,

I don't think that is what Randy was referring to.  He was talking about the 
action of the File-Open File function.  By default, it asks if you want a list 
of Legacy Files or to use the Windows File Manager.  It also has options to say 
always use one or the other.  The problem is once you've chosen one of those 
Always options, you seem to be stuck with it.  There's nothing under File-Open 
File or under Customize to change or undo the selection.

I did find that Restore Legacy Defaults will reset the function of File-File 
Open.  However, that also wipes out any other customizations.  Tried getting 
around that by saving my customizations before resetting to Legacy defaults, 
but when I then restored my User Defaults, it also returned the File-File-Open 
action to the locked in mode.

An alternative that might work is to save customizations on a section by 
section basis, excluding the General Settings, then do a global reset to Legacy 
Defaults, and then restore each section of customized settings, and manually 
reset the General Settings.  This of course assumes that the File-File Open 
option setting is saved and restored with the General Settings even though 
there is no function to set/reset it on the General Settings list.

Randy,

Another workaround for you might be, with Legacy closed, to go to Windows file 
manager, find your .fdb file and double click it.  It should open in Legacy.  
Thereafter, it should be on that Legacy File List that your File-Open File 
function is locked in to.

-Original Message-
From: Sherry/Support [ mailto:she...@legacyfamilytree.com 
mailto:she...@legacyfamilytree.com ]
Sent: Wednesday, November 27, 2013 10:07 AM
To: LegacyUserGroup@LegacyUsers.com
Subject: Re: [LegacyUG] open file Legacy8

Go to Options  Customize  General Settings to select your option for 
Starting Family File


Sincerely,
Sherry
Technical Support
Legacy Family Tree


On Wed, Nov 27, 2013 at 7:43 AM, Randy Clark ceddaco...@gmail.com wrote:
 I mistakenly told it to always show me a list of files from which to pick.
 How do I let it allow me to navigate to the file?



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Re: [LegacyUG] Shared events

2013-11-27 Thread John B. Lisle


Brant,
The Legacy Shared Event Gedcom export is standard in the
sense that it is virtually identical to what Roots Magic does. We have
tested that RM Gedcoms with shared events can import into Legacy and vice
versa.
The problem for us TNG users is TNG. TNG does not support Shared Events.
I and others have raised the issue on the TNG Users list, but he has not
committed to implementing shared events. Until he does, I feel I cannot
use this important new functionality.
I ask you and other on this list who use TNG to raise the request with
TNG and maybe if enough people ask, it will get on his radar. Considering
that two desk top apps have the functionality and implement Gedcoms the
same, it would seem like it is something he should do.
john.

At 11:49 AM 11/27/2013, Brant Gibbard wrote:
Has anyone had a chance to
experiment with Shared Events, and if so, what was your experience with
it. I am particularly interested in seeing how gedcom export is handled.
To the best of my knowledge gedcom does not intrinsically support shared
events. What happens when a shared event is exported to gedcom? Is a
separate event made for each participant? I ask because I publish
my data through TNG, and I would like to have some idea as to whether
shared events will cooperate with my scenario.

Brant Gibbard
Toronto, ON
http://bgibbard.ca 



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Re: [LegacyUG] import Version 7 custom settings to V8

2013-11-27 Thread John B. Lisle
Sorry Gene,

You need to start from scratch. The customization approach is just
too different between the versions.

I work on two monitors. I opened L7.5 on one and L8 on the other and
just tried to map one set to the other.

Please note the Design menu in the top right. That is where you want
to start your customization. You control building your Toolbars from there.

john.



At 12:26 PM 11/27/2013, Gene Young wrote:
Has anyone seen how, or if, this is possible?  A quick search of the
help file did not turn up any reference to this.
--

Gene Young
Researching Young, Harer, Cox  Sallada
With Legacy Family Tree
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Re: [LegacyUG] Shared events

2013-11-27 Thread Leonard Johnson
On Sep 15 I wrote to the TNG mailing list about Shared Events, there were
not many
who responded.  John B. Lisle wrote to the TNG mailing list about 21 hours
ago.
I use Shared Events quite a bit.  It is exported in a GEDCOM.

Hope this helps.  I see that John has already responded to your e-mail.


Leonard Johnson-Källbom
Team Leader
Swedish Translation Team
legacy8.swed...@gmail.com
We are helping change the world of genealogy !



On Wed, Nov 27, 2013 at 5:49 PM, Brant Gibbard bgibb...@ca.inter.netwrote:

 Has anyone had a chance to experiment with Shared Events, and if so, what
 was your experience with it. I am particularly interested in seeing how
 gedcom export is handled. To the best of my knowledge gedcom does not
 intrinsically support shared events. What happens when a shared event is
 exported to gedcom? Is a separate event made for each participant?  I ask
 because I publish my data through TNG, and I would like to have some idea
 as to whether shared events will cooperate with my scenario.



 Brant Gibbard
 Toronto, ON
 http://bgibbard.ca






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OFF LIST Re: [LegacyUG] Shared events

2013-11-27 Thread Sherry/Support
John,

Can I add your comments about shared events and TNG to our new Knowledge Base?

It would be anonymous.

Thanks,
Sherry



On Wed, Nov 27, 2013 at 9:49 AM, John B. Lisle leg...@tqsi.com wrote:
 Brant,

 The Legacy Shared Event Gedcom export is standard in the sense that it is
 virtually identical to what Roots Magic does. We have tested that RM Gedcoms
 with shared events can import into Legacy and vice versa.

 The problem for us TNG users is TNG. TNG does not support Shared Events. I
 and others have raised the issue on the TNG Users list, but he has not
 committed to implementing shared events. Until he does, I feel I cannot use
 this important new functionality.

 I ask you and other on this list who use TNG to raise the request with TNG
 and maybe if enough people ask, it will get on his radar. Considering that
 two desk top apps have the functionality and implement Gedcoms the same, it
 would seem like it is something he should do.

 john.

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RE: [LegacyUG] Shared events

2013-11-27 Thread Paul Gray
John,



Is the shared event actually maintained on export as a shared event and 
imported as such, or is it turned into separate events for each person? I 
wasn’t aware that the GEDCOM standard actually recognized “true shared events”, 
but if it does that’s a pleasant surprise. Or, maybe ‘custom’ or ‘non-standard’ 
tags are being used by both RM and Legacy.



Paul Gray



From: John B. Lisle [mailto:leg...@tqsi.com]
Sent: November-27-13 10:50 AM
To: LegacyUserGroup@LegacyUsers.com
Subject: Re: [LegacyUG] Shared events



Brant,

The Legacy Shared Event Gedcom export is standard in the sense that it is 
virtually identical to what Roots Magic does. We have tested that RM Gedcoms 
with shared events can import into Legacy and vice versa.

The problem for us TNG users is TNG. TNG does not support Shared Events. I and 
others have raised the issue on the TNG Users list, but he has not committed to 
implementing shared events. Until he does, I feel I cannot use this important 
new functionality.

I ask you and other on this list who use TNG to raise the request with TNG and 
maybe if enough people ask, it will get on his radar. Considering that two desk 
top apps have the functionality and implement Gedcoms the same, it would seem 
like it is something he should do.

john.



At 11:49 AM 11/27/2013, Brant Gibbard wrote:



Has anyone had a chance to experiment with Shared Events, and if so, what was 
your experience with it. I am particularly interested in seeing how gedcom 
export is handled. To the best of my knowledge gedcom does not intrinsically 
support shared events. What happens when a shared event is exported to gedcom? 
Is a separate event made for each participant?  I ask because I publish my data 
through TNG, and I would like to have some idea as to whether shared events 
will cooperate with my scenario.

Brant Gibbard
Toronto, ON
http://bgibbard.ca http://bgibbard.ca/




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Re: [LegacyUG] Legacy Version 8.0

2013-11-27 Thread Sherry/Support
Watch the Legacy For Beginners: video and the What's New in Legacy
8.0 video on our website www.LegacyFamilyTree.com  Training  View
Training Videos.

That's a good way to see what v8 is all about.


Sincerely,
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On Wed, Nov 27, 2013 at 9:28 AM, Elizabeth Hatchell
elizab...@hatchells.co.uk wrote:
 Does anyone have any hints about version 8.0 please?  I have version 7.5.0
 with the latest update deluxe edition and am considering upgrading.

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Re: [LegacyUG] Legacy 8 Installation - GLBF797.tmp

2013-11-27 Thread Sherry/Support
I was using the free Avast and not the Internet Security version when
I had problems, John

Plus I was having problems on both my 64-bit Vista laptop and my
64-bit Win7 desktop.


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On Wed, Nov 27, 2013 at 9:00 AM, John B. Lisle leg...@tqsi.com wrote:
 Gene,

 Are you using the Free Avast AV or the Avast Internet Security? I
 believe the problem is with the Internet Security version only. Some
 of the secondary Windows issues are only appearing with Win 7 and above.

 john




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Re: [LegacyUG] PP Alert Details Hang [was: Legacy 8]

2013-11-27 Thread Ron Ferguson
John,

I am very much aware of the apparent random nature of the problem, and that it 
has not been resolved.

However, you seem to miss my point which was that since the OP gave no details 
at all, there is no possibility of the post contributing to a solution, no 
matter what the cause proves to be.

Ron Ferguson
http://www.fergys.co.uk/

John B. Lisle leg...@tqsi.com wrote:

Ron,

There is a problem with PP Alerts and Legacy hanging. It does not
happen for everyone. Only my GR build showed the problem.

I discovered that, if I renamed the USR file in [My Documents], the
problem goes away. This tells me that it is a conflict between
various settings.

If have forwarded the issue to developers.

john.

At 11:04 AM 11/27/2013, Ron Ferguson wrote:
Your's might, mine doesn't. If you would like some help perhaps you can tell
us what you have tried to resolve the problem, whether you had installation
problems, does it apply to many different types of problems or just one?

Ron Ferguson
http://www.fergys.co.uk/

-Original Message-
From: C.G. Ouimet
Sent: Wednesday, November 27, 2013 3:17 PM
To: LegacyUserGroup@LegacyUsers.com
Subject: RE: [LegacyUG] PP Alert Details Hang [was: Legacy 8]

800.353 hangs when you do any of that ...


C.G. Ouimet
Kingston ON


-Original Message-
From: Kurt Kneeland [mailto:kurt-kneel...@sbcglobal.net]
Sent: November 27, 2013 09:59 AM
To: LegacyUserGroup@LegacyUsers.com
Subject: RE: [LegacyUG] PP Alert Details Hang [was: Legacy 8]

As you said, when you hover over a pp icon, you get options to change
settings. Do the Shift-Right Click and then go to the Gaps tab.  There you
can change the soon or long after marriage, and how soon or long between
children to be flagged as a problem.

-Original Message-
From: Teresa Goatham [mailto:ter...@goatham.co.uk]
Sent: Wednesday, November 27, 2013 6:32 AM
To: LegacyUserGroup@LegacyUsers.com
Subject: Re: [LegacyUG] PP Alert Details Hang [was: Legacy 8]

I even managed to get Legacy to crash trying to turn off a Potential
problem - not sure exactly what I did, now though, and it has'nt happened a
2nd time (but I have turned more off)

It seems strange to me that if I hover over the PP icon I get options to
change my overall settings, but not to mark that particular possible problem
as not an issue. Especially the gaps, there are loads I'd like to be able to
switch off quickly; I know they're not a problem without clicking to see the
details.

So many I may just turn off reporting for the gaps, good idea, but the
numbers used just don't work for much of my tree. I wish I could change
them, e.g. at one time most of the working class in England (i.e. most
people) were expecting a child when they married, so less than an 8 mth gap
between marriage and 1st child's baptism was probably the norm, certainly
very common. At other periods or classes it was rare, hence being able to
the change from 8 mths would be useful.

Teresa

On 26/11/2013 22:31, John B. Lisle wrote:
  Hi,
 
  This has seemed to be an intermittent issue that started late in the
  testing cycle. Not everyone sees it, and it may only occur on certain
  type of PP Alerts.
 
  Please email me privately with details of what you see.
 
  thanks,
  john.
 
  At 04:18 PM 11/26/2013, C.G. Ouimet wrote:
  --snip --
 
  When clicking the Potential Problems icon in Family View or Pedigree
  View opens up Potential Problems which is good. But Clicking to view
  details, right clicking to exclude problems or shift-right clicking
  to change problem settings all result in Legacy hanging.
 
  Windows 7 ?
 
  C.G. Ouimet
  Kingston ON
 




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RE: [LegacyUG] PP Alert Details Hang [was: Legacy 8]

2013-11-27 Thread C.G. Ouimet
What additional details would we need Ron?

As I posted ...

When clicking the Potential Problems icon in Family View or Pedigree View opens 
up Potential Problems which is good. But Clicking to view details, Right 
Clicking to exclude problems or Shift-Right Clicking to change problem settings 
all result in Legacy hanging.


C.G. Ouimet
Kingston ON


-Original Message-
From: Ron Ferguson [mailto:ronfergy@tiscali.co.uk]
Sent: November 27, 2013 01:17 PM
To: LegacyUserGroup@LegacyUsers.com
Subject: Re: [LegacyUG] PP Alert Details Hang [was: Legacy 8]

John,

I am very much aware of the apparent random nature of the problem, and that it 
has not been resolved.

However, you seem to miss my point which was that since the OP gave no details 
at all, there is no possibility of the post contributing to a solution, no 
matter what the cause proves to be.

Ron Ferguson
http://www.fergys.co.uk/

John B. Lisle leg...@tqsi.com wrote:

Ron,

There is a problem with PP Alerts and Legacy hanging. It does not
happen for everyone. Only my GR build showed the problem.

I discovered that, if I renamed the USR file in [My Documents], the
problem goes away. This tells me that it is a conflict between various
settings.

If have forwarded the issue to developers.

john.

At 11:04 AM 11/27/2013, Ron Ferguson wrote:
Your's might, mine doesn't. If you would like some help perhaps you
can tell us what you have tried to resolve the problem, whether you
had installation problems, does it apply to many different types of problems 
or just one?

Ron Ferguson
http://www.fergys.co.uk/

-Original Message-
From: C.G. Ouimet
Sent: Wednesday, November 27, 2013 3:17 PM
To: LegacyUserGroup@LegacyUsers.com
Subject: RE: [LegacyUG] PP Alert Details Hang [was: Legacy 8]

800.353 hangs when you do any of that ...


C.G. Ouimet
Kingston ON


-Original Message-
From: Kurt Kneeland [mailto:kurt-kneel...@sbcglobal.net]
Sent: November 27, 2013 09:59 AM
To: LegacyUserGroup@LegacyUsers.com
Subject: RE: [LegacyUG] PP Alert Details Hang [was: Legacy 8]

As you said, when you hover over a pp icon, you get options to change
settings. Do the Shift-Right Click and then go to the Gaps tab.  There
you can change the soon or long after marriage, and how soon or long
between children to be flagged as a problem.

-Original Message-
From: Teresa Goatham [mailto:ter...@goatham.co.uk]
Sent: Wednesday, November 27, 2013 6:32 AM
To: LegacyUserGroup@LegacyUsers.com
Subject: Re: [LegacyUG] PP Alert Details Hang [was: Legacy 8]

I even managed to get Legacy to crash trying to turn off a Potential
problem - not sure exactly what I did, now though, and it has'nt
happened a 2nd time (but I have turned more off)

It seems strange to me that if I hover over the PP icon I get options
to change my overall settings, but not to mark that particular
possible problem as not an issue. Especially the gaps, there are loads
I'd like to be able to switch off quickly; I know they're not a
problem without clicking to see the details.

So many I may just turn off reporting for the gaps, good idea, but the
numbers used just don't work for much of my tree. I wish I could
change them, e.g. at one time most of the working class in England
(i.e. most
people) were expecting a child when they married, so less than an 8
mth gap between marriage and 1st child's baptism was probably the
norm, certainly very common. At other periods or classes it was rare,
hence being able to the change from 8 mths would be useful.

Teresa

On 26/11/2013 22:31, John B. Lisle wrote:
  Hi,
 
  This has seemed to be an intermittent issue that started late in
  the testing cycle. Not everyone sees it, and it may only occur on
  certain type of PP Alerts.
 
  Please email me privately with details of what you see.
 
  thanks,
  john.
 
  At 04:18 PM 11/26/2013, C.G. Ouimet wrote:
  --snip --
 
  When clicking the Potential Problems icon in Family View or
  Pedigree View opens up Potential Problems which is good. But
  Clicking to view details, right clicking to exclude problems or
  shift-right clicking to change problem settings all result in Legacy 
  hanging.
 
  Windows 7 ?
 
  C.G. Ouimet
  Kingston ON
 




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Re: [LegacyUG] open file Legacy8

2013-11-27 Thread Brian/Support
You can find the list of recent files in one of two places, depending on
the choice you made for the style under the design setting in the upper
right, For Office 2007 styles the recent files are, as C.G. said, found
by click the big L. For the Office 2010 style however the recent file
list is found on the System menu item.

Sorry, no option to pin favourites to the recent file list though.

Brian
Customer Support
Millennia Corporation
br...@legacyfamilytree.com
http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com

On 27/11/2013 1206, Randy Clark wrote:
 I think you can see them by clicking the big L in the upper left.

 On Wed, Nov 27, 2013 at 11:52 AM, C.G. Ouimet c.g.oui...@outlook.comwrote:

 A list of recent files would be helpful like you get with MS Office
 applications. Especially useful when you pin favourites ...


 C.G. Ouimet
 Kingston ON



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Re: OFF LIST Re: [LegacyUG] Shared events

2013-11-27 Thread Howlanddavisii

Sherry:

 What offlist rbg?

Howland Davis

-Original Message-
From: Sherry/Support she...@legacyfamilytree.com
To: LegacyUserGroup LegacyUserGroup@LegacyUsers.com
Sent: Wed, Nov 27, 2013 1:11 pm
Subject: OFF LIST Re: [LegacyUG] Shared events


John,

Can I add your comments about shared events and TNG to our new Knowledge Base?

It would be anonymous.

Thanks,
Sherry



On Wed, Nov 27, 2013 at 9:49 AM, John B. Lisle leg...@tqsi.com wrote:
 Brant,

 The Legacy Shared Event Gedcom export is standard in the sense that it is
 virtually identical to what Roots Magic does. We have tested that RM Gedcoms
 with shared events can import into Legacy and vice versa.

 The problem for us TNG users is TNG. TNG does not support Shared Events. I
 and others have raised the issue on the TNG Users list, but he has not
 committed to implementing shared events. Until he does, I feel I cannot use
 this important new functionality.

 I ask you and other on this list who use TNG to raise the request with TNG
 and maybe if enough people ask, it will get on his radar. Considering that
 two desk top apps have the functionality and implement Gedcoms the same, it
 would seem like it is something he should do.

 john.

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RE: [LegacyUG] open file Legacy8

2013-11-27 Thread C.G. Ouimet
Office 2010 Style in Legacy? I only see Office 2003 and Office 2007 ...


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-Original Message-
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Sent: November 27, 2013 01:28 PM
To: LegacyUserGroup@LegacyUsers.com
Subject: Re: [LegacyUG] open file Legacy8

You can find the list of recent files in one of two places, depending on the 
choice you made for the style under the design setting in the upper right, For 
Office 2007 styles the recent files are, as C.G. said, found by click the big 
L. For the Office 2010 style however the recent file list is found on the 
System menu item.

Sorry, no option to pin favourites to the recent file list though.

Brian
Customer Support
Millennia Corporation
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http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com





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Re: [LegacyUG] Shared events

2013-11-27 Thread Leonard Johnson
Paul,

As I have seen when looking at the GEDCOM both RootsMagic and Legacy use
a non-standard event.


Leonard Johnson-Källbom
Team Leader
Swedish Translation Team
legacy8.swed...@gmail.com
We are helping change the world of genealogy !



On Wed, Nov 27, 2013 at 7:12 PM, Paul Gray graypa...@outlook.com wrote:

 John,



 Is the shared event actually maintained on export as a shared event and
 imported as such, or is it turned into separate events for each person? I
 wasn’t aware that the GEDCOM standard actually recognized “true shared
 events”, but if it does that’s a pleasant surprise. Or, maybe ‘custom’ or
 ‘non-standard’ tags are being used by both RM and Legacy.



 Paul Gray



 *From:* John B. Lisle [mailto:leg...@tqsi.com]
 *Sent:* November-27-13 10:50 AM
 *To:* LegacyUserGroup@LegacyUsers.com
 *Subject:* Re: [LegacyUG] Shared events



 Brant,

 The Legacy Shared Event Gedcom export is standard in the sense that it
 is virtually identical to what Roots Magic does. We have tested that RM
 Gedcoms with shared events can import into Legacy and vice versa.

 The problem for us TNG users is TNG. TNG does not support Shared Events. I
 and others have raised the issue on the TNG Users list, but he has not
 committed to implementing shared events. Until he does, I feel I cannot use
 this important new functionality.

 I ask you and other on this list who use TNG to raise the request with TNG
 and maybe if enough people ask, it will get on his radar. Considering that
 two desk top apps have the functionality and implement Gedcoms the same, it
 would seem like it is something he should do.

 john.



 At 11:49 AM 11/27/2013, Brant Gibbard wrote:

 Has anyone had a chance to experiment with Shared Events, and if so, what
 was your experience with it. I am particularly interested in seeing how
 gedcom export is handled. To the best of my knowledge gedcom does not
 intrinsically support shared events. What happens when a shared event is
 exported to gedcom? Is a separate event made for each participant?  I ask
 because I publish my data through TNG, and I would like to have some idea
 as to whether shared events will cooperate with my scenario.

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 http://bgibbard.ca




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RE: [LegacyUG] open file Legacy8

2013-11-27 Thread C.G. Ouimet
Found it ...

The Tab Style in the Options Ribbon has different Styles than in Design 
...


C.G. Ouimet
Kingston ON


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From: Brian/Support [mailto:br...@legacyfamilytree.com]
Sent: November 27, 2013 01:28 PM
To: LegacyUserGroup@LegacyUsers.com
Subject: Re: [LegacyUG] open file Legacy8

You can find the list of recent files in one of two places, depending on the 
choice you made for the style under the design setting in the upper right, For 
Office 2007 styles the recent files are, as C.G. said, found by click the big 
L. For the Office 2010 style however the recent file list is found on the 
System menu item.

Sorry, no option to pin favourites to the recent file list though.

Brian
Customer Support
Millennia Corporation
br...@legacyfamilytree.com
http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com

On 27/11/2013 1206, Randy Clark wrote:
 I think you can see them by clicking the big L in the upper left.

 On Wed, Nov 27, 2013 at 11:52 AM, C.G. Ouimet c.g.oui...@outlook.comwrote:

 A list of recent files would be helpful like you get with MS Office
 applications. Especially useful when you pin favourites ...


 C.G. Ouimet
 Kingston ON



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Re: [LegacyUG] Shared events

2013-11-27 Thread singhals
Brant Gibbard wrote:
 Has anyone had a chance to experiment with Shared Events,
 and if so, what was your experience with it. I am
 particularly interested in seeing how gedcom export is
 handled. To the best of my knowledge gedcom does not
 intrinsically support shared events. What happens when a
 shared event is exported to gedcom? Is a separate event made
 for each participant? I ask because I publish my data
 through TNG, and I would like to have some idea as to
 whether shared events will cooperate with my scenario.

U ... can someone explain why a Shared Event matters on
export?

MY personal interest in Shared Events is so I can slap a
Served in World War I label on 25 different people,
without typing it 25 separate times.

It's sounding as if others using it in some other way that
my mind is finding obscure?

Thanks.

Cheryl



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[LegacyUG] Extra icon for Add Person

2013-11-27 Thread Richard Van Wasshnova
My iconic menu bar has 2 identical icons for Add Person except the first
has no drop down menu so is unusable. (Win 8 standard) I don't see a way to
remove the useless icon.

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Re: [LegacyUG] Legacy 8 Installation - GLBF797.tmp

2013-11-27 Thread Mary LeClerc
I've used Norton's since day one on the internet and never have any
problems downloading reputable programs like Legacy.  Just downloaded
Legacy 8 and again it went smooth as butter.


On Wed, Nov 27, 2013 at 11:00 AM, John B. Lisle leg...@tqsi.com wrote:

 Gene,

 Are you using the Free Avast AV or the Avast Internet Security? I
 believe the problem is with the Internet Security version only. Some
 of the secondary Windows issues are only appearing with Win 7 and above.

 john.

 At 08:08 AM 11/27/2013, Gene Young wrote:
 On 11/26/2013 7:38 PM, Sherry/Support wrote:
   That's a problem with Avast. Turn it off when you do an install
  or update of Legacy.
  
   I just switched to a different AV program since I was getting
  tired of dealing with this every time there was a test update!
  
  
  
   Sincerely,
   Sherry
   Technical Support
   Legacy Family Tree
  
  
 
 I run Avast and I just installed Legacy 8.  No problems, no
 warnings.  It may not be the simplest anti-virus program to use but,
 as with all software, the more you learn about it the better it
 appears to become and the easier it becomes to use.
 
 --
 
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 Researching Young, Harer, Cox  Sallada
 With Legacy Family Tree
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RE: [LegacyUG] Shared events

2013-11-27 Thread Paul Gray
I think one example might be residence (or census) events where one records the 
entire family unit in one event, and then attaches it to (for example) father, 
mother, and each of the children.

Paul Gray

-Original Message-
From: singhals [mailto:singh...@erols.com]
Sent: November-27-13 11:45 AM
To: LegacyUserGroup@LegacyUsers.com
Subject: Re: [LegacyUG] Shared events

Brant Gibbard wrote:
 Has anyone had a chance to experiment with Shared Events, and if so,
 what was your experience with it. I am particularly interested in
 seeing how gedcom export is handled. To the best of my knowledge
 gedcom does not intrinsically support shared events. What happens when
 a shared event is exported to gedcom? Is a separate event made for
 each participant? I ask because I publish my data through TNG, and I
 would like to have some idea as to whether shared events will
 cooperate with my scenario.

U ... can someone explain why a Shared Event matters on export?

MY personal interest in Shared Events is so I can slap a Served in World War 
I label on 25 different people, without typing it 25 separate times.

It's sounding as if others using it in some other way that my mind is finding 
obscure?

Thanks.

Cheryl



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Re: OFF LIST Re: [LegacyUG] Shared events

2013-11-27 Thread Sherry/Support
Oops - I forgot to change the To!


Sincerely,
Sherry
Technical Support
Legacy Family Tree


On Wed, Nov 27, 2013 at 10:13 AM, Howlanddavisii howlanddavi...@aol.com wrote:
 Sherry:

  What offlist rbg?

 Howland Davis
 -Original Message-
 From: Sherry/Support she...@legacyfamilytree.com
 To: LegacyUserGroup LegacyUserGroup@LegacyUsers.com
 Sent: Wed, Nov 27, 2013 1:11 pm
 Subject: OFF LIST Re: [LegacyUG] Shared events

 John,

 Can I add your comments about shared events and TNG to our new Knowledge
 Base?

 It would be anonymous.

 Thanks,
 Sherry





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[LegacyUG] Options Selections

2013-11-27 Thread Kay
I just got my codes - and am setting up version 8.



1)  Do I want a check next to Integrate with FamilySearch?   What will
that do?

2)  And Enable tagging options - it is not checked now - but I was
assuming I want this?  Yes? No?  And why?

Thanks a bunch - Kay








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Re: [LegacyUG] PP Alert Details Hang [was: Legacy 8]

2013-11-27 Thread Brian/Support
The clicks all work for me in 8.0.0.353. I tried both with Legacy
8.0.0.353 running in Standard Mode (Where Potential Problems lists are
not available) and in Deluxe.

In standard mode the click brought up a Deluxe only feature screen
telling me potential problem lists are a deluxe feature. Right click and
Shift right click brought up the screens to either exclude the problem
for the individual or the main setting screen to change the criteria for
the entire file.

In Deluxe mode the click produced the potential problem list instead of
the deluxe feature screen.

The problems that I checked were:

1. a gap problem, child born more than 48 months after previous child
(called from the PP indicator on the child in family view)
2. Burial date before death date (called by clicking on the PP indicator
for the person as husband in main family view)
3. an event date after death date. (called from the PP indicator in the
event list)

Brian
Customer Support
Millennia Corporation
br...@legacyfamilytree.com
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On 27/11/2013 1017, C.G. Ouimet wrote:
 800.353 hangs when you do any of that ...


 C.G. Ouimet
 Kingston ON


 -Original Message-
 From: Kurt Kneeland [mailto:kurt-kneel...@sbcglobal.net]
 Sent: November 27, 2013 09:59 AM
 To: LegacyUserGroup@LegacyUsers.com
 Subject: RE: [LegacyUG] PP Alert Details Hang [was: Legacy 8]

 As you said, when you hover over a pp icon, you get options to change 
 settings. Do the Shift-Right Click and then go to the Gaps tab.  There you 
 can change the soon or long after marriage, and how soon or long between 
 children to be flagged as a problem.

 -Original Message-
 From: Teresa Goatham [mailto:ter...@goatham.co.uk]
 Sent: Wednesday, November 27, 2013 6:32 AM
 To: LegacyUserGroup@LegacyUsers.com
 Subject: Re: [LegacyUG] PP Alert Details Hang [was: Legacy 8]

 I even managed to get Legacy to crash trying to turn off a Potential problem 
 - not sure exactly what I did, now though, and it has'nt happened a 2nd time 
 (but I have turned more off)

 It seems strange to me that if I hover over the PP icon I get options to 
 change my overall settings, but not to mark that particular possible problem 
 as not an issue. Especially the gaps, there are loads I'd like to be able to 
 switch off quickly; I know they're not a problem without clicking to see the 
 details.

 So many I may just turn off reporting for the gaps, good idea, but the 
 numbers used just don't work for much of my tree. I wish I could change them, 
 e.g. at one time most of the working class in England (i.e. most
 people) were expecting a child when they married, so less than an 8 mth gap 
 between marriage and 1st child's baptism was probably the norm, certainly 
 very common. At other periods or classes it was rare, hence being able to the 
 change from 8 mths would be useful.

 Teresa

 On 26/11/2013 22:31, John B. Lisle wrote:
 Hi,

 This has seemed to be an intermittent issue that started late in the
 testing cycle. Not everyone sees it, and it may only occur on certain
 type of PP Alerts.

 Please email me privately with details of what you see.

 thanks,
 john.

 At 04:18 PM 11/26/2013, C.G. Ouimet wrote:
 --snip --

 When clicking the Potential Problems icon in Family View or Pedigree
 View opens up Potential Problems which is good. But Clicking to view
 details, right clicking to exclude problems or shift-right clicking
 to change problem settings all result in Legacy hanging.

 Windows 7 ?

 C.G. Ouimet
 Kingston ON



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RE: [LegacyUG] Shared events

2013-11-27 Thread John B. Lisle


Paul,
The shared event Gedcom tags are proprietary tags. Gedcom 5.5.1 knows
nothing of Shared Events.
Many vendors have agreed on certain standard proprietary
tags. Agreed may be too strong. They look at how other vendors handle it
and mimic the same implementation. You see on several features outside
the standard. 
And most vendors - including Legacy - tweak their Gedcom import depending
on what software is the source of the Gedcom. For instance, Legacy has a
lot of special code for importing Family Tree Maker Gedcoms as they are
so different from the standard. The source is embedded in the
Gedcom.
john.
At 01:12 PM 11/27/2013, Paul Gray wrote:
John,

Is the shared event actually maintained on export as a shared event and
imported as such, or is it turned into separate events for each person? I
wasn’t aware that the GEDCOM standard actually recognized “true
shared events”, but if it does that’s a pleasant surprise. Or, maybe
‘custom’ or ‘non-standard’ tags are being used by both RM and
Legacy.

Paul Gray

From: John B. Lisle
[
mailto:leg...@tqsi.com] 
Sent: November-27-13 10:50 AM
To: LegacyUserGroup@LegacyUsers.com
Subject: Re: [LegacyUG] Shared events

Brant,
The Legacy Shared Event Gedcom export is standard in the
sense that it is virtually identical to what Roots Magic does. We have
tested that RM Gedcoms with shared events can import into Legacy and vice
versa.
The problem for us TNG users is TNG. TNG does not support Shared Events.
I and others have raised the issue on the TNG Users list, but he has not
committed to implementing shared events. Until he does, I feel I cannot
use this important new functionality.
I ask you and other on this list who use TNG to raise the request with
TNG and maybe if enough people ask, it will get on his radar. Considering
that two desk top apps have the functionality and implement Gedcoms the
same, it would seem like it is something he should do.
john.

At 11:49 AM 11/27/2013, Brant Gibbard wrote:
Has anyone had a chance to experiment with Shared Events, and if so, what
was your experience with it. I am particularly interested in seeing how
gedcom export is handled. To the best of my knowledge gedcom does not
intrinsically support shared events. What happens when a shared event is
exported to gedcom? Is a separate event made for each participant?
I ask because I publish my data through TNG, and I would like to have
some idea as to whether shared events will cooperate with my
scenario.

Brant Gibbard
Toronto, ON
http://bgibbard.ca 



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RE: [LegacyUG] PP Alert Details Hang [was: Legacy 8]

2013-11-27 Thread C.G. Ouimet
I'm glad it works properly for you. I doesn't for some of us. I'm in Deluxe ...


C.G. Ouimet
Kingston ON


-Original Message-
From: Brian/Support [mailto:br...@legacyfamilytree.com]
Sent: November 27, 2013 02:01 PM
To: LegacyUserGroup@LegacyUsers.com
Subject: Re: [LegacyUG] PP Alert Details Hang [was: Legacy 8]

The clicks all work for me in 8.0.0.353. I tried both with Legacy
8.0.0.353 running in Standard Mode (Where Potential Problems lists are not 
available) and in Deluxe.

In standard mode the click brought up a Deluxe only feature screen telling me 
potential problem lists are a deluxe feature. Right click and Shift right click 
brought up the screens to either exclude the problem for the individual or the 
main setting screen to change the criteria for the entire file.

In Deluxe mode the click produced the potential problem list instead of the 
deluxe feature screen.

The problems that I checked were:

1. a gap problem, child born more than 48 months after previous child (called 
from the PP indicator on the child in family view) 2. Burial date before death 
date (called by clicking on the PP indicator for the person as husband in main 
family view) 3. an event date after death date. (called from the PP indicator 
in the event list)

Brian
Customer Support
Millennia Corporation
br...@legacyfamilytree.com
http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com


On 27/11/2013 1017, C.G. Ouimet wrote:
 800.353 hangs when you do any of that ...


 C.G. Ouimet
 Kingston ON


 -Original Message-
 From: Kurt Kneeland [mailto:kurt-kneel...@sbcglobal.net]
 Sent: November 27, 2013 09:59 AM
 To: LegacyUserGroup@LegacyUsers.com
 Subject: RE: [LegacyUG] PP Alert Details Hang [was: Legacy 8]

 As you said, when you hover over a pp icon, you get options to change 
 settings. Do the Shift-Right Click and then go to the Gaps tab.  There you 
 can change the soon or long after marriage, and how soon or long between 
 children to be flagged as a problem.

 -Original Message-
 From: Teresa Goatham [mailto:ter...@goatham.co.uk]
 Sent: Wednesday, November 27, 2013 6:32 AM
 To: LegacyUserGroup@LegacyUsers.com
 Subject: Re: [LegacyUG] PP Alert Details Hang [was: Legacy 8]

 I even managed to get Legacy to crash trying to turn off a Potential
 problem - not sure exactly what I did, now though, and it has'nt
 happened a 2nd time (but I have turned more off)

 It seems strange to me that if I hover over the PP icon I get options to 
 change my overall settings, but not to mark that particular possible problem 
 as not an issue. Especially the gaps, there are loads I'd like to be able to 
 switch off quickly; I know they're not a problem without clicking to see the 
 details.

 So many I may just turn off reporting for the gaps, good idea, but the
 numbers used just don't work for much of my tree. I wish I could
 change them, e.g. at one time most of the working class in England
 (i.e. most
 people) were expecting a child when they married, so less than an 8 mth gap 
 between marriage and 1st child's baptism was probably the norm, certainly 
 very common. At other periods or classes it was rare, hence being able to the 
 change from 8 mths would be useful.

 Teresa

 On 26/11/2013 22:31, John B. Lisle wrote:
 Hi,

 This has seemed to be an intermittent issue that started late in the
 testing cycle. Not everyone sees it, and it may only occur on certain
 type of PP Alerts.

 Please email me privately with details of what you see.

 thanks,
 john.

 At 04:18 PM 11/26/2013, C.G. Ouimet wrote:
 --snip --

 When clicking the Potential Problems icon in Family View or Pedigree
 View opens up Potential Problems which is good. But Clicking to view
 details, right clicking to exclude problems or shift-right clicking
 to change problem settings all result in Legacy hanging.

 Windows 7 ?

 C.G. Ouimet
 Kingston ON



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RE: [LegacyUG] Legacy 8 Installation - GLBF797.tmp

2013-11-27 Thread William Boswell
Same here.  I've used Norton AV products for years (currently Norton 360) and 
had no problems with Legacy 7.5 or with the new 8.0.  No problems with 
installation or use.



I stay away from the freebie AV programs.  Symantec who produces the Norton 
programs is a reputable company.



When I installed Legacy 8 Deluxe this morning, I didn't let the installation 
put it in Program Files.  I put it in the root directory of my C drive like I 
did with Legacy 7.5.  I also have Windows 7's User Account Control turned off 
which can interfere with a lot of programs.



Bill Boswell



From: Mary LeClerc [mailto:quiltingm...@gmail.com]
Sent: Wednesday, November 27, 2013 1:45 PM
To: LegacyUserGroup@LegacyUsers.com
Subject: Re: [LegacyUG] Legacy 8 Installation - GLBF797.tmp



I've used Norton's since day one on the internet and never have any problems 
downloading reputable programs like Legacy.  Just downloaded Legacy 8 and again 
it went smooth as butter.



On Wed, Nov 27, 2013 at 11:00 AM, John B. Lisle leg...@tqsi.com wrote:

Gene,

Are you using the Free Avast AV or the Avast Internet Security? I
believe the problem is with the Internet Security version only. Some
of the secondary Windows issues are only appearing with Win 7 and above.

john.






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Re: [LegacyUG] Shared events

2013-11-27 Thread Ron Ferguson
Cheryl,

In principle I don't think that the circumstances under which shared events
are being used is little different to yours.

However, if one wishes to transfer the shared the events to a (non-Legacy)
webpage then a GEDCOM is most likely to be used. Hence the importance of the
GEDCOM question - no transfer and the data is not published.

Ron Ferguson
http://www.fergys.co.uk/

-Original Message-
From: singhals
Sent: Wednesday, November 27, 2013 6:44 PM
To: LegacyUserGroup@LegacyUsers.com
Subject: Re: [LegacyUG] Shared events

Brant Gibbard wrote:
 Has anyone had a chance to experiment with Shared Events,
 and if so, what was your experience with it. I am
 particularly interested in seeing how gedcom export is
 handled. To the best of my knowledge gedcom does not
 intrinsically support shared events. What happens when a
 shared event is exported to gedcom? Is a separate event made
 for each participant? I ask because I publish my data
 through TNG, and I would like to have some idea as to
 whether shared events will cooperate with my scenario.

U ... can someone explain why a Shared Event matters on
export?

MY personal interest in Shared Events is so I can slap a
Served in World War I label on 25 different people,
without typing it 25 separate times.

It's sounding as if others using it in some other way that
my mind is finding obscure?

Thanks.

Cheryl




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RE: [LegacyUG] Clock Alarm feature

2013-11-27 Thread Mark Lang
Kurt, Kathy, Mike,



Well that is certainly wierd. Just checked mine again also, and it is now the 
correct time. Other beta testers couldn't see the problem even though I 
submitted images as proof; but that has been seen before where there is a 
problem others are unable to duplicate. We do our best amongst the frustration. 
Will keep an eye on it though, but all seems good now for me as well.



Kind Regards,

Mark



From: Kurt Kneeland [mailto:kurt-kneel...@sbcglobal.net]
Sent: Thursday, 28 November 2013 1:05 AM
To: LegacyUserGroup@LegacyUsers.com
Subject: RE: [LegacyUG] Clock  Alarm feature



I also noticed a problem with the current time displayed  on the Alarm Center.  
It was 12 hours off - displaying PM when it should have been AM.  I thought it 
might just be mishandling the AM/PM indicator.  I switched to 24-hour clock 
(Option 4.8) and all seemed well.  This morning I switched back to the 12-hour 
clock and it seems to be OK.  I’ll have to check again in the 12 o’clock hours 
(eg 0030 and 1230) and see if the problem reoccurs.



From: Kathy Thompson [mailto:kmthoms...@gmail.com]
Sent: Wednesday, November 27, 2013 1:17 AM
To: LegacyUserGroup@LegacyUsers.com
Subject: Re: [LegacyUG] Clock  Alarm feature



it certainly was!



On 27 November 2013 17:14, Mike Fry emjay...@gmail.com wrote:

On 2013/11/27 09:08, Kathy Thompson wrote:
 However, first the clock was 15 hours out, then it was 12 hours out, then it 
 was
 about 6 hours out - now it is showing the correct time.
 It appears that a few loads and shut downs of the program were needed for it 
 to
 get in sync with my time zone.
 And no, I have not changed my own computer clock.

Strange one!


--
Regards,
Mike Fry
Johannesburg (g)



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[LegacyUG] Run-time error 2147024726

2013-11-27 Thread lio .
Not sure if this is right place, but good to know if it is happening to anyone 
else.

I just clicked on the Legacy Home tab. Nothing was listed under Legacy News, 
but there a sentence telling me I had to be connected to the internet (my 
computer is always connected). I clicked on that sentence and received the 
error below as Legacy crashed/closed. This is the second time it has happened 
(two different computers):

Run-time error '-2147024726 (800700aa)':
Automation error
The requested resource is in use

After this I reopened Legacy 8, and Legacy News on the Legacy Home Tab was 
populated properly.

Leo



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Re: [LegacyUG] Shared events

2013-11-27 Thread singhals
Thanks, Paul.

That would never have occurred to me.  Maybe I've had more
practice at shooting myself in the foot that others? ;)

Cheryl

Paul Gray wrote:
 I think one example might be residence (or census) events where one records 
 the entire family unit in one event, and then attaches it to (for example) 
 father, mother, and each of the children.

 Paul Gray

 -Original Message-
 From: singhals [mailto:singh...@erols.com]
 Sent: November-27-13 11:45 AM
 To: LegacyUserGroup@LegacyUsers.com
 Subject: Re: [LegacyUG] Shared events

 Brant Gibbard wrote:
 Has anyone had a chance to experiment with Shared Events, and if so,
 what was your experience with it. I am particularly interested in
 seeing how gedcom export is handled. To the best of my knowledge
 gedcom does not intrinsically support shared events. What happens when
 a shared event is exported to gedcom? Is a separate event made for
 each participant? I ask because I publish my data through TNG, and I
 would like to have some idea as to whether shared events will
 cooperate with my scenario.

 U ... can someone explain why a Shared Event matters on export?

 MY personal interest in Shared Events is so I can slap a Served in World War 
 I label on 25 different people, without typing it 25 separate times.

 It's sounding as if others using it in some other way that my mind is finding 
 obscure?

 Thanks.

 Cheryl




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Re: [LegacyUG] Options Selections

2013-11-27 Thread Sherry/Support
If you plan on searching FamilySearch through Legacy, yes you need to
enable that option.

If you plan on using tags for flagging individuals or groups, yes,
turn that on. I use it all the time.

You can always turn either one of them off or on in Options 
Customize  General Settings.


Sincerely,
Sherry
Technical Support
Legacy Family Tree


On Wed, Nov 27, 2013 at 10:27 AM, Kay ohkayk...@yahoo.com wrote:
 I just got my codes – and am setting up version 8.



 1)  Do I want a check next to Integrate with FamilySearch?   What will
 that do?

 2)  And Enable tagging options – it is not checked now – but I was
 assuming I want this?  Yes? No?  And why?

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Re: [LegacyUG] Shared events

2013-11-27 Thread singhals
Thanks, Ron.

As you know, I'm a HUGE fan of being able to find what I
know is in there when I want it again, and I don't mind
tweaking html to suit myself.

Let's don't start us another round of What's Wrong with GED,
hmmm? ;)

Cheryl

Ron Ferguson wrote:
 Cheryl,

 In principle I don't think that the circumstances under which shared events
 are being used is little different to yours.

 However, if one wishes to transfer the shared the events to a (non-Legacy)
 webpage then a GEDCOM is most likely to be used. Hence the importance of the
 GEDCOM question - no transfer and the data is not published.

 Ron Ferguson
 http://www.fergys.co.uk/

 -Original Message-
 From: singhals
 Sent: Wednesday, November 27, 2013 6:44 PM
 To: LegacyUserGroup@LegacyUsers.com
 Subject: Re: [LegacyUG] Shared events

 Brant Gibbard wrote:
 Has anyone had a chance to experiment with Shared Events,
 and if so, what was your experience with it. I am
 particularly interested in seeing how gedcom export is
 handled. To the best of my knowledge gedcom does not
 intrinsically support shared events. What happens when a
 shared event is exported to gedcom? Is a separate event made
 for each participant? I ask because I publish my data
 through TNG, and I would like to have some idea as to
 whether shared events will cooperate with my scenario.

 U ... can someone explain why a Shared Event matters on
 export?

 MY personal interest in Shared Events is so I can slap a
 Served in World War I label on 25 different people,
 without typing it 25 separate times.

 It's sounding as if others using it in some other way that
 my mind is finding obscure?

 Thanks.

 Cheryl



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Re: [LegacyUG] Shared events

2013-11-27 Thread Dave Johnson
If you use Shared Events for Census records, and you transcribe the Census
Record as Geoff Described in his Webinar, you may not be satisfied with the
result.  It appears that any event that is shared cannot be modified.  It
appears that there is only one occurrence of the shared event.  So if I
want to highlight the head of the house in his/her Legacy record, and I
want to highlight each individual in the family in their Legacy records,
you cannot used a shared event.

At least that is what I have learned after trying several times.

Dave


On Wed, Nov 27, 2013 at 2:20 PM, singhals singh...@erols.com wrote:

 Thanks, Paul.

 That would never have occurred to me.  Maybe I've had more
 practice at shooting myself in the foot that others? ;)

 Cheryl

 Paul Gray wrote:
  I think one example might be residence (or census) events where one
 records the entire family unit in one event, and then attaches it to (for
 example) father, mother, and each of the children.
 
  Paul Gray
 
  -Original Message-
  From: singhals [mailto:singh...@erols.com]
  Sent: November-27-13 11:45 AM
  To: LegacyUserGroup@LegacyUsers.com
  Subject: Re: [LegacyUG] Shared events
 
  Brant Gibbard wrote:
  Has anyone had a chance to experiment with Shared Events, and if so,
  what was your experience with it. I am particularly interested in
  seeing how gedcom export is handled. To the best of my knowledge
  gedcom does not intrinsically support shared events. What happens when
  a shared event is exported to gedcom? Is a separate event made for
  each participant? I ask because I publish my data through TNG, and I
  would like to have some idea as to whether shared events will
  cooperate with my scenario.
 
  U ... can someone explain why a Shared Event matters on export?
 
  MY personal interest in Shared Events is so I can slap a Served in
 World War I label on 25 different people, without typing it 25 separate
 times.
 
  It's sounding as if others using it in some other way that my mind is
 finding obscure?
 
  Thanks.
 
  Cheryl




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Re: [LegacyUG] Shared events

2013-11-27 Thread Leonard Johnson
You are correct Dave.  You are able to e.g. modify a shared event for one of
the children and that modification then affects all others who have the same
shared event.  However, you are able to use roles in combination with shared
event and thereby get closer to what you are talking about.

I use shared events alot in my family tree.  I really love this function
combined
with roles.

Leonard Johnson-Källbom
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Swedish Translation Team
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[LegacyUG] Children with 'double 's's????

2013-11-27 Thread elizabeth
I can't find what this means in the help file...

Some of the children for a man who was married twice have a symbol at the
end of their name that looks like 2 Ss on top of each other. It's a
'squiggly' looking thing,

I have tried unlinking the wives and children and reconnecting everybody
but no matter what I do that symbol is still there.

Can anybody tell me what it means and how to fix it?

Thank you,
Elizabeth



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Re: [LegacyUG] Options Selections

2013-11-27 Thread John B. Lisle
Kay,

In general, you want to read the help to see if
that give more information about the options.

Tagging - Yes, turn it on. I am surprised that it
was not on from the start. It has always with L8 been on by default.

FamilySearch Integration. I turn it on for the
cases where I want to look at the FamilySearch
module for more clues. When it is on, you will
see small gray left and right arrows next to
names in Family View and Pedigree View. If you
never intend to use FS, leave it off. You can
turn it on later without hurting anything.

john.

At 01:27 PM 11/27/2013, Kay wrote:
I just got my codes – and am setting up version 8.

1)  Do I want a check next to Integrate with
FamilySearch?   What will that do?
2)  And Enable tagging options – it is not
checked now – but I was assuming I want this?  Yes? No?  And why?
Thanks a bunch – Kay




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RE: [LegacyUG] open file Legacy8

2013-11-27 Thread John B. Lisle
Yes and No...

Look at the top right corner. There is a menu labelled Design which
has several over all style options.

john.

At 01:41 PM 11/27/2013, C.G. Ouimet wrote:
Found it ...

The Tab Style in the Options Ribbon has different Styles than in
Design ...


C.G. Ouimet
Kingston ON


-Original Message-
From: Brian/Support [mailto:br...@legacyfamilytree.com]
Sent: November 27, 2013 01:28 PM
To: LegacyUserGroup@LegacyUsers.com
Subject: Re: [LegacyUG] open file Legacy8

You can find the list of recent files in one of two places,
depending on the choice you made for the style under the design
setting in the upper right, For Office 2007 styles the recent files
are, as C.G. said, found by click the big L. For the Office 2010
style however the recent file list is found on the System menu item.

Sorry, no option to pin favourites to the recent file list though.

Brian
Customer Support
Millennia Corporation
br...@legacyfamilytree.com
http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com

On 27/11/2013 1206, Randy Clark wrote:
  I think you can see them by clicking the big L in the upper left.
 
  On Wed, Nov 27, 2013 at 11:52 AM, C.G. Ouimet
 c.g.oui...@outlook.comwrote:
 
  A list of recent files would be helpful like you get with MS Office
  applications. Especially useful when you pin favourites ...
 
 
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RE: [LegacyUG] Shared events

2013-11-27 Thread John B. Lisle
Paul,

We can attach multiple copies of events in Legacy 7 using the
clipboard. But each of those is a separate copy, so if you want to
edit one, you have to edit them all.

A shared event means one copy that gets attached everywhere.

Think of the example of a census listing. The head of the household
would get the original event. Then you could share that event with
all of the other members of the household. But, you not only share
the event, but also assign a role that the other person plays - eg,
Family Member. You could also share it with someone who may not be in
your family file, like a boarder, servant etc who was in the
household, as a Member of Household. You could also share it with
the census enumerator. You can add notes specific to each sharing.

Baptisms, Weddings, and other such vital events can be shared.
However, you cannot share an event with a family, only individuals.

I created a Custom Event called Family Event. I used it for a
person's birthday event. I attached pictures from the event and did a
write-up in the notes about the event that shared it with each of the
people attending.

john.


At 01:53 PM 11/27/2013, Paul Gray wrote:
I think one example might be residence (or census) events where one
records the entire family unit in one event, and then attaches it to
(for example) father, mother, and each of the children.

Paul Gray

-Original Message-
From: singhals [mailto:singh...@erols.com]
Sent: November-27-13 11:45 AM
To: LegacyUserGroup@LegacyUsers.com
Subject: Re: [LegacyUG] Shared events

Brant Gibbard wrote:
  Has anyone had a chance to experiment with Shared Events, and if so,
  what was your experience with it. I am particularly interested in
  seeing how gedcom export is handled. To the best of my knowledge
  gedcom does not intrinsically support shared events. What happens when
  a shared event is exported to gedcom? Is a separate event made for
  each participant? I ask because I publish my data through TNG, and I
  would like to have some idea as to whether shared events will
  cooperate with my scenario.

U ... can someone explain why a Shared Event matters on export?

MY personal interest in Shared Events is so I can slap a Served in
World War I label on 25 different people, without typing it 25 separate times.

It's sounding as if others using it in some other way that my mind
is finding obscure?

Thanks.

Cheryl



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Re: [LegacyUG] Children with 'double 's's????

2013-11-27 Thread Howlanddavisii

Elizabeth:

 If I  am not mistaken (which is a big if), it means that they have no 
children.  I have two children and three step children.  Only one of those has 
the symbol you mention and he and his wife have no children.

Howland Davis

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Sent: Wed, Nov 27, 2013 2:45 pm
Subject: [LegacyUG] Children with 'double 's's





I can't find what this means in the help file...


Some of the children for a man who was married twice have a symbol at the end 
of their name that looks like 2 Ss on top of each other. It's a 'squiggly' 
looking thing,


I have tried unlinking the wives and children and reconnecting everybody but no 
matter what I do that symbol is still there.


Can anybody tell me what it means and how to fix it?


Thank you,

Elizabeth



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Re: [LegacyUG] Children with 'double 's's????

2013-11-27 Thread Bert van Kootwijk
From helptopic 1036 Family View:

?A § at the end of a child means that person is married but has no children.

Bert
  - Original Message -
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  To: LegacyUserGroup@LegacyUsers.com
  Sent: Wednesday, November 27, 2013 8:43 PM
  Subject: [LegacyUG] Children with 'double 's's


  I can't find what this means in the help file...


  Some of the children for a man who was married twice have a symbol at the end 
of their name that looks like 2 Ss on top of each other. It's a 'squiggly' 
looking thing,


  I have tried unlinking the wives and children and reconnecting everybody but 
no matter what I do that symbol is still there.


  Can anybody tell me what it means and how to fix it?


  Thank you,

  Elizabeth



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Re: [LegacyUG] Legacy Version 8.0

2013-11-27 Thread Wendy Howard
Elizabeth,

You can install v8 without affecting v7, so you can download v8 Standard
and take a look at it before you make a decision about upgrading to deluxe.

Do make a copy of your database before opening it in v8 - the file will
be converted to a new format, so once you've done that you won't be able
to (easily) revert.  There is a prompt about this when you first go to
open the file, so all is not lost if you forget to do this first - as
long as you read and choose your option carefully at the time.

This is what I've done while I'm waiting for my Deluxe code to arrive.
Good to have it in front of me to see what others are talking about on
the list, if nothing else.

I like Sherry's suggestion of watching the new videos, and will be doing
that later on today once I've done some real work.  Have been catching
up on the 90+ posts on LUG while I have my breakfast, but time now to do
other things before I can come back and have another play with it all.  :-)

Kind Regards,
Wendy


Sherry/Support said the following on 28/11/2013 7:12 a.m.:
 Watch the Legacy For Beginners: video and the What's New in Legacy
 8.0 video on our website www.LegacyFamilyTree.com  Training  View
 Training Videos.

 That's a good way to see what v8 is all about.


 Sincerely,
 Sherry
 Technical Support
 Legacy Family Tree


 On Wed, Nov 27, 2013 at 9:28 AM, Elizabeth Hatchell
 elizab...@hatchells.co.uk wrote:
 Does anyone have any hints about version 8.0 please?  I have version 7.5.0
 with the latest update deluxe edition and am considering upgrading.

 ElizMaryH



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RE: [LegacyUG] Delete 7.5?

2013-11-27 Thread Brian L. Lightfoot
I'm agreeing with all your observation and am left wondering why this wasn't 
called v7.6 instead of v8.0. Maybe I'm a purist at heart but in the past 
software marketers seldom increased a full digit unless it was a radical 
redesign especially of the user interface. And I would doubt that the 
incompatible database format would warrant such an incremental increase because 
I believe that's been done in the past without a full digit increase.

But regardless of those minor things, version 8 is here and time to enjoy it as 
written.


Brian in CA


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Sent: Wednesday, November 27, 2013 7:59 AM
To: LegacyUserGroup@LegacyUsers.com
Subject: Re: [LegacyUG] Delete 7.5?

Carl,

Whilst I agree with your praise for the Legacy program, and I am sure that 
Legacy will be delighted with your undoubted loyalty, you have not given me one 
reason why I would spend money to upgrade.

For me, I need to see technical improvements, and/or, additional functions 
which I need - not the same as mere additional functions!! As it is, V8.0 does 
give this, especially with Event Sharing, the return of the 5 sourcing options, 
the loss of which was lamented by many of us, the improved Family Search option 
(although I recognise the caveats with family trees) and I really do like the 
new design options, and much more.

Are there things which I would have liked which are not there? Sure but there 
is sufficient there to raise my interest.

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Re: [LegacyUG] Shared events

2013-11-27 Thread John B. Lisle


Dave,
I do not know how Geoff teaches that you transcribe a census event...
But, as I publish my research using TNG, I have to consider how the
Gedcom will export and import. Until TNG supports Shared events, I cannot
use them in my research.
As a result, I transcribe the census listing into the notes field. When I
export to Gedcom, I select the options to keep embedded codes, convert
them to HTML format, and make space strings web
friendly.
That said you, if you are doing this just for reports and want to use
shared events, you do this
1/ Add the person to the share
2/ Assign a role, create new role if needed.
3/ Then edit the Role where you can add a specific note relative to that
person in that role. You could copy the census transcription note to that
note and highlight it as you need.
Note that you have flexibility as to which or both notes are to be used
in sentences.
Now, if Geoff is teaching to put the transcription in a source, then, no,
I do not think you can do what you want to do.
john.
At 02:27 PM 11/27/2013, Dave Johnson wrote:
If you use Shared Events for
Census records, and you transcribe the Census Record as Geoff Described
in his Webinar, you may not be satisfied with the result. It
appears that any event that is shared cannot be modified. It
appears that there is only one occurrence of the shared event. So
if I want to highlight the head of the house in his/her Legacy record,
and I want to highlight each individual in the family in their Legacy
records, you cannot used a shared event.
 
At least that is what I have learned after trying several times.
 
Dave

On Wed, Nov 27, 2013 at 2:20 PM, singhals
singh...@erols.com
wrote:


Thanks, Paul.

That would never have occurred to me. Â Maybe I've had more

practice at shooting myself in the foot that others? ;)

Cheryl

Paul Gray wrote:

 I think one example might be residence (or census) events where
one records the entire family unit in one event, and then attaches it to
(for example) father, mother, and each of the children.



 Paul Gray



 -Original Message-

 From: singhals
[
mailto:singh...@erols.com]

 Sent: November-27-13 11:45 AM

 To: LegacyUserGroup@LegacyUsers.com

 Subject: Re: [LegacyUG] Shared events



 Brant Gibbard wrote:

 Has anyone had a chance to experiment with Shared Events,
and if so,

 what was your experience with it. I am particularly
interested in

 seeing how gedcom export is handled. To the best of my
knowledge

 gedcom does not intrinsically support shared events. What
happens when

 a shared event is exported to gedcom? Is a separate event
made for

 each participant? I ask because I publish my data through
TNG, and I

 would like to have some idea as to whether shared events
will

 cooperate with my scenario.



 U ... can someone explain why a Shared Event matters on
export?



 MY personal interest in Shared Events is so I can slap a
Served in World War I label on 25 different people, without
typing it 25 separate times.



 It's sounding as if others using it in some other way that my
mind is finding obscure?



 Thanks.



 Cheryl


-- 
Dave Johnson




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[LegacyUG] Upgrade Email Question

2013-11-27 Thread Pamela Wile
Hello,



I'm patiently waiting for the email with the key for the upgrade.  I'm not
in a rush, but just wondered what the subject line will be.  I'm receiving
hundreds of emails from this list and don't want it to get buried and maybe
accidently deleted.



Pam




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Re: [LegacyUG] Integrate with Family Search

2013-11-27 Thread Mike Fry
On 2013/11/27 17:36, Ron Ferguson wrote:

 I would be grateful if you would explain the meaning of sting in the tail.
 During testing a played around quite a bit with FS and noted quite an
 improvement as time went one, and I ended up quite happy with it.

What I was trying to say, slightly facetiously, was that the integration can be
a bit of a double-edged sword if used inappropriately. What we had was a novice
(in terms of FamilySearch experience) who might have blindly jumped in and wound
up corrupting their prized database with data from FamilySearch that was
mistakenly assumed to be relevant to them.

The two-way flow of data needs to be carefully controlled. I still only work
from what I can see on FamilySearch. I never upload my carefully researched data
to FamilySearch. I also find it tedious having to deal with each duplicate
separately because of the plethora of different extractions that the LDS have
done. There must be a better, simpler way of handling this aspect.

--
Regards,
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Johannesburg (g)



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Re: [LegacyUG] Clock Alarm feature

2013-11-27 Thread Kathy Thompson
Glad to know it had been seen before.
Will see if I can notice anything next time I see it happen in case that helps.

Kathy

 On 28 Nov 2013, at 5:11 am, Mark Lang markl...@adam.com.au wrote:

 Kurt, Kathy, Mike,

 Well that is certainly wierd. Just checked mine again also, and it is now the 
 correct time. Other beta testers couldn't see the problem even though I 
 submitted images as proof; but that has been seen before where there is a 
 problem others are unable to duplicate. We do our best amongst the 
 frustration. Will keep an eye on it though, but all seems good now for me as 
 well.

 Kind Regards,
 Mark

 From: Kurt Kneeland [mailto:kurt-kneel...@sbcglobal.net]
 Sent: Thursday, 28 November 2013 1:05 AM
 To: LegacyUserGroup@LegacyUsers.com
 Subject: RE: [LegacyUG] Clock  Alarm feature

 I also noticed a problem with the current time displayed  on the Alarm 
 Center.  It was 12 hours off - displaying PM when it should have been AM.  I 
 thought it might just be mishandling the AM/PM indicator.  I switched to 
 24-hour clock (Option 4.8) and all seemed well.  This morning I switched back 
 to the 12-hour clock and it seems to be OK.  I’ll have to check again in the 
 12 o’clock hours (eg 0030 and 1230) and see if the problem reoccurs.

 From: Kathy Thompson [mailto:kmthoms...@gmail.com]
 Sent: Wednesday, November 27, 2013 1:17 AM
 To: LegacyUserGroup@LegacyUsers.com
 Subject: Re: [LegacyUG] Clock  Alarm feature

 it certainly was!


 On 27 November 2013 17:14, Mike Fry emjay...@gmail.com wrote:
 On 2013/11/27 09:08, Kathy Thompson wrote:
  However, first the clock was 15 hours out, then it was 12 hours out, then 
  it was
  about 6 hours out - now it is showing the correct time.
  It appears that a few loads and shut downs of the program were needed for 
  it to
  get in sync with my time zone.
  And no, I have not changed my own computer clock.

 Strange one!

 --
 Regards,
 Mike Fry
 Johannesburg (g)



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Re: [LegacyUG] Options Selections

2013-11-27 Thread Mike Fry
On 2013/11/27 21:36, John B. Lisle wrote:

 In general, you want to read the help to see if
 that give more information about the options.

That's a bit of a Catch-22 situation. You can't view the Help without having
installed the program first and by default, the program starts running and wants
you to configure it, but you have to cancel that so you can read the help and
then you can't get back to where you were in the configuration process.

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Johannesburg (g)



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