[LegacyUG] Familysearch ID number

[Barbara Lewis]

I can’t find where the FS  ID number is shown on the family view of Legacy.  
Sometimes when a person is deleted from FS the ID doesn’t match up with the one 
found in Legacy, but now I can’t find where that ID is found in Legacy??

Barbara

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Re: [LegacyUG] Familysearch sources to Legacy

[Bruce Jones]

FOUND IT.
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On Thu, Jun 25, 2020 at 12:49 AM Cathy Pinner  wrote:

> Bruce in the Legacy FamilySearch module there is a sources tab. It's
> useful but you do need to know that Sources can't be attached to all events
> on the FamilySearch tree. It's to the Right of the Share Data tab.
>
> Cathy
>
> Bruce Jones wrote:
>
>
> I'm confused. Where is the Sources Tab?
>
> On Wed, Jun 24, 2020, 2:18 AM Jenny M Benson  > wrote:
>
> On 24/06/2020 00:14, Bruce Jones wrote:
> > How can I transfer sources (& documents) in FamilySearch to my
> Legacy file?
>
> If you are importing data to Legacy using the Legacy FamilySearch
> Share
> Data tab and clicking the little arrow on the relevant line you
> will be
> given the option for an automatic Source to be added to your Legacy
> file.  If you are taking data from FamilySearch, then FamilySeach IS
> your Source.
>
> If you mean that want to copy a Source which has been added to an
> individual in FS, then open the Sources tab in Legacy FamilySearch
> and
> click the relevant arrow there.
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Re: [LegacyUG] Familysearch sources to Legacy

[Cathy Pinner]

Bruce in the Legacy FamilySearch module there is a sources tab. It's 
useful but you do need to know that Sources can't be attached to all 
events on the FamilySearch tree. It's to the Right of the Share Data tab.


Cathy

Bruce Jones wrote:


I'm confused. Where is the Sources Tab?

On Wed, Jun 24, 2020, 2:18 AM Jenny M Benson mailto:ge...@cedarbank.me.uk>> wrote:

    On 24/06/2020 00:14, Bruce Jones wrote:
    > How can I transfer sources (& documents) in FamilySearch to my
    Legacy file?

    If you are importing data to Legacy using the Legacy FamilySearch
    Share
    Data tab and clicking the little arrow on the relevant line you
    will be
    given the option for an automatic Source to be added to your Legacy
    file.  If you are taking data from FamilySearch, then FamilySeach IS
    your Source.

    If you mean that want to copy a Source which has been added to an
    individual in FS, then open the Sources tab in Legacy FamilySearch
    and
    click the relevant arrow there.
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Re: [LegacyUG] Familysearch sources to Legacy

[Bruce Jones]

I'm confused. Where is the Sources Tab?

On Wed, Jun 24, 2020, 2:18 AM Jenny M Benson  wrote:

> On 24/06/2020 00:14, Bruce Jones wrote:
> > How can I transfer sources (& documents) in FamilySearch to my Legacy
> file?
>
> If you are importing data to Legacy using the Legacy FamilySearch Share
> Data tab and clicking the little arrow on the relevant line you will be
> given the option for an automatic Source to be added to your Legacy
> file.  If you are taking data from FamilySearch, then FamilySeach IS
> your Source.
>
> If you mean that want to copy a Source which has been added to an
> individual in FS, then open the Sources tab in Legacy FamilySearch and
> click the relevant arrow there.
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> Wrexham, UK
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Re: [LegacyUG] Familysearch sources to Legacy

[Gene Young]

Have already done so.

On 6/24/2020 6:22 AM, ronaldbern...@bernfrin.net wrote:


calawson obviously subscribed to the Legacy email list, but now insists on S  P 
 A  M  I  N  G the list rather than following the instructions that have been 
provided numerous times to unsubscribe – perhaps tpg.com.au should be notified 
that one of their users is violating TOS in order to S  P  A  M another address.

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Re: [LegacyUG] Familysearch sources to Legacy


On 24/06/2020 00:14, Bruce Jones wrote:
> How can I transfer sources (& documents) in FamilySearch to my Legacy 
file?

If you are importing data to Legacy using the Legacy FamilySearch Share
Data tab and clicking the little arrow on the relevant line you will be
given the option for an automatic Source to be added to your Legacy
file. If you are taking data from FamilySearch, then FamilySeach IS
your Source.

If you mean that want to copy a Source which has been added to an
individual in FS, then open the Sources tab in Legacy FamilySearch and
click the relevant arrow there.
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Wrexham, UK

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Re: [LegacyUG] Familysearch sources to Legacy

[ronaldbernier]

calawson obviously subscribed to the Legacy email list, but now insists on S  P 
 A  M  I  N  G the list rather than following the instructions that have been 
provided numerous times to unsubscribe – perhaps tpg.com.au should be notified 
that one of their users is violating TOS in order to S  P  A  M another address.

 

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Re: [LegacyUG] Familysearch sources to Legacy


On 24/06/2020 00:14, Bruce Jones wrote:
> How can I transfer sources (& documents) in FamilySearch to my Legacy file?

If you are importing data to Legacy using the Legacy FamilySearch Share 
Data tab and clicking the little arrow on the relevant line you will be 
given the option for an automatic Source to be added to your Legacy 
file. If you are taking data from FamilySearch, then FamilySeach IS 
your Source.

If you mean that want to copy a Source which has been added to an 
individual in FS, then open the Sources tab in Legacy FamilySearch and 
click the relevant arrow there.
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Wrexham, UK

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Re: [LegacyUG] Familysearch sources to Legacy

[calawson]

 

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To:
Cc:
Sent:Wed, 24 Jun 2020 10:17:35 +0100
Subject:Re: [LegacyUG] Familysearch sources to Legacy

 On 24/06/2020 00:14, Bruce Jones wrote:
 > How can I transfer sources (& documents) in FamilySearch to my
Legacy file?

 If you are importing data to Legacy using the Legacy FamilySearch
Share 
 Data tab and clicking the little arrow on the relevant line you will
be 
 given the option for an automatic Source to be added to your Legacy 
 file. If you are taking data from FamilySearch, then FamilySeach IS 
 your Source.

 If you mean that want to copy a Source which has been added to an 
 individual in FS, then open the Sources tab in Legacy FamilySearch
and 
 click the relevant arrow there.
 -- 
 Jenny M Benson - http://jennygenes.blogspot.co.uk/
 Wrexham, UK

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Re: [LegacyUG] Familysearch sources to Legacy

[Jenny M Benson]

On 24/06/2020 00:14, Bruce Jones wrote:

How can I transfer sources (& documents) in FamilySearch to my Legacy file?


If you are importing data to Legacy using the Legacy FamilySearch Share 
Data tab and clicking the little arrow on the relevant line you will be 
given the option for an automatic Source to be added to your Legacy 
file.  If you are taking data from FamilySearch, then FamilySeach IS 
your Source.


If you mean that want to copy a Source which has been added to an 
individual in FS, then open the Sources tab in Legacy FamilySearch and 
click the relevant arrow there.

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Wrexham, UK

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Re: [LegacyUG] Familysearch sources to Legacy

[Cathy Pinner]

Bringing data in via the Legacy FamilySearch interface brings in a 
source of sorts. Otherwise create your own using the data that is in the 
FamilySearch tree or FamilySearch records.


Cathy


Bruce Jones 
Wednesday, 24 June 2020 7:14 AM
How can I transfer sources (& documents) in FamilySearch to my Legacy 
file?






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[LegacyUG] Familysearch sources to Legacy

[Bruce Jones]

How can I transfer sources (& documents) in FamilySearch to my Legacy file?
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Re: [LegacyUG] FamilySearch sync data question

[Andrew Robbie]

Thanks Brian for looking at this and confirming that I wasn't crazy after all...

I'll use your findings in the 'bug' report to Legacy

Andrew

-Original Message-
From: Brian Kelly  
Sent: Monday, April 6, 2020 4:30 PM
To: Andrew Robbie ; Legacy User Group 

Subject: Re: [LegacyUG] FamilySearch sync data question

I have looked at the family and created a test file using the people in the 
family which Andrew provided.

For the list after Andrew manually added parents to his problem person it 
solved his issue for that person but in the view Andrew provided there were now 
three children with the red chain problem icon.

a. These three children had no equivalent person in the family at
FamilySearch(FS)

b. When clicking on the icon to transfer the child from Legacy to FS the only 
option was to unlink, there was no option to add the person to FS offered.

I have examined the three problem children and in all three cases the person 
with the FSID from Andrew's file has no parents shown at FS.

In conclusion it looks like you cannot add missing parents via Legacy. I am not 
sure if this is a limitation imposed by FS on Legacy through the API which 
controls what Legacy can do to manipulate FS data or is an error in the way 
Legacy has implemented the transfer in the case of missing parents at FS.

To "fix" his problem with the three children he will have to add the missing 
parents to the three children on the FS website just like he manually added 
parents at FS to fix his original problem.

Andrew: I also suggest you send a report to Legacy as a problem report so the 
programmers can examine the difficulty in transferring people when parents are 
missing at FamilySearch but are present in the person's Legacy file.

Brian Kelly

On 06-Apr.-20 2:54 p.m., Andrew Robbie wrote:
> Hi Brian,
> 
> Thanks for taking the time to go through this with me.
> 
> Attached is the family view in question.  You'll see the George ROBBIE is 
> fixed (I went into FS.org and ONLY added his parents manually (using FS ID) 
> via the web site).  And all seems well now.
> 
> So, now we can use Charles Mackie ROBBIE as the test subject, since the 
> situation appears to be the same with him (or other siblings at the bottom of 
> this view).
> 
> Let me know what you find, but I only ever see these red link icons, and 
> cannot fathom what's up...
> 
> Andrew
> 
> -Original Message-
> From: Brian Kelly 
> Sent: Monday, April 6, 2020 7:18 AM
> To: Andrew Robbie 
> Subject: Re: [LegacyUG] FamilySearch sync data question
> 
> I am taking this discussion off the list because attachments and graphics are 
>  not allowed in messages to the Legacy User Group.
> 
> I would like to see what you see when you are in the Legacy Family Tree 
> Family Search(LFS) module. Can you send me a screen shop from the LFS showing 
> both the My Legacy Person and the Family Tree side for George Robbie. I only 
> need the family relationships section.
> 
> I have included a sample of what I need from one of the people in my own file.
> 
> The image is from the situation I described in my first reply to you. It 
> shows the problem with the parents when I had the wrong wife linked and the 
> wrong William McNeill FSID.
> 
> Brian Kelly
> 
> On 05-Apr.-20 10:39 p.m., Andrew Robbie wrote:
>> Thanks Brian,
>>
>> So, it appears that no parents are recorded on FamilySearch.org for 
>> this individual.  So why can I not use the FS popup to simply click 
>> the "move to right hand side" for this individual's father and mother 
>> and done...?  The only option I get for the parents is ‘unlink’…
>>
>> Must I go onto the web site FamilySearch.org to manually add each 
>> parent using the ID that I already have in Legacy, but cannot perform 
>> that function from the FS popup dialog?
>>
>> Thanks,
>>
>> Andrew
>>
>> -Original Message-
>> From: LegacyUserGroup  On 
>> Behalf Of Brian Kelly
>> Sent: Sunday, April 5, 2020 5:03 PM
>> To: legacyusergroup@legacyusers.com
>> Subject: Re: [LegacyUG] FamilySearch sync data question
>>
>> You have eliminated two of the three possible reasons so by 
>> elimination check for the third reason "The person is linked to the 
>> wrong individual in FamilySearch." That becomes the most likely.
>>
>> I just had a case in my own file where my file had different parents 
>> for the FS person. The parents did not display and had the red chain 
>> icon on the My Legacy Person side of the screen because of that difference.
>>
>> A careful examination of the sources in my file revealed that I had 
>> linked my Legacy person to the wrong FS person based on similar names 
>> of pa

Re: [LegacyUG] FamilySearch sync data question

[Brian Kelly]

I have looked at the family and created a test file using the people in 
the family which Andrew provided.


For the list after Andrew manually added parents to his problem person 
it solved his issue for that person but in the view Andrew provided 
there were now three children with the red chain problem icon.


a. These three children had no equivalent person in the family at 
FamilySearch(FS)


b. When clicking on the icon to transfer the child from Legacy to FS the 
only option was to unlink, there was no option to add the person to FS 
offered.


I have examined the three problem children and in all three cases the 
person with the FSID from Andrew's file has no parents shown at FS.


In conclusion it looks like you cannot add missing parents via Legacy. I 
am not sure if this is a limitation imposed by FS on Legacy through the 
API which controls what Legacy can do to manipulate FS data or is an 
error in the way Legacy has implemented the transfer in the case of 
missing parents at FS.


To "fix" his problem with the three children he will have to add the 
missing parents to the three children on the FS website just like he 
manually added parents at FS to fix his original problem.


Andrew: I also suggest you send a report to Legacy as a problem report 
so the programmers can examine the difficulty in transferring people 
when parents are missing at FamilySearch but are present in the person's 
Legacy file.


Brian Kelly

On 06-Apr.-20 2:54 p.m., Andrew Robbie wrote:

Hi Brian,

Thanks for taking the time to go through this with me.

Attached is the family view in question.  You'll see the George ROBBIE is fixed 
(I went into FS.org and ONLY added his parents manually (using FS ID) via the 
web site).  And all seems well now.

So, now we can use Charles Mackie ROBBIE as the test subject, since the 
situation appears to be the same with him (or other siblings at the bottom of 
this view).

Let me know what you find, but I only ever see these red link icons, and cannot 
fathom what's up...

Andrew

-Original Message-
From: Brian Kelly 
Sent: Monday, April 6, 2020 7:18 AM
To: Andrew Robbie 
Subject: Re: [LegacyUG] FamilySearch sync data question

I am taking this discussion off the list because attachments and graphics are  
not allowed in messages to the Legacy User Group.

I would like to see what you see when you are in the Legacy Family Tree Family 
Search(LFS) module. Can you send me a screen shop from the LFS showing both the 
My Legacy Person and the Family Tree side for George Robbie. I only need the 
family relationships section.

I have included a sample of what I need from one of the people in my own file.

The image is from the situation I described in my first reply to you. It shows 
the problem with the parents when I had the wrong wife linked and the wrong 
William McNeill FSID.

Brian Kelly

On 05-Apr.-20 10:39 p.m., Andrew Robbie wrote:

Thanks Brian,

So, it appears that no parents are recorded on FamilySearch.org for
this individual.  So why can I not use the FS popup to simply click
the "move to right hand side" for this individual's father and mother
and done...?  The only option I get for the parents is ‘unlink’…

Must I go onto the web site FamilySearch.org to manually add each
parent using the ID that I already have in Legacy, but cannot perform
that function from the FS popup dialog?

Thanks,

Andrew

-Original Message-
From: LegacyUserGroup  On
Behalf Of Brian Kelly
Sent: Sunday, April 5, 2020 5:03 PM
To: legacyusergroup@legacyusers.com
Subject: Re: [LegacyUG] FamilySearch sync data question

You have eliminated two of the three possible reasons so by
elimination check for the third reason "The person is linked to the
wrong individual in FamilySearch." That becomes the most likely.

I just had a case in my own file where my file had different parents
for the FS person. The parents did not display and had the red chain
icon on the My Legacy Person side of the screen because of that difference.

A careful examination of the sources in my file revealed that I had
linked my Legacy person to the wrong FS person based on similar names
of parents but I had added an incorrect spouse from a marriage record.

Examining the source details for the marriage revealed that the
incorrect person was born in Ireland according to the marriage source
while my person was born in Canada.

I unlinked my person by deleting the incorrect FSID. A new search
found the correct FSID so the person is now linked to the correct
parents both in my file and in FamilySearch.org. I have unlinked the
incorrect spouse and children, deleted a whole bunch of events which
applied to the incorrect person and will now have to rebuild the
person's family (FS has a different spouse and list of children).

Brian Kelly

On 05-Apr.-20 3:24 p.m., Andrew Robbie wrote:

  > Hi all,

  >

  > Hope everyone is staying safely indoors and doing lots of family

  > his

Re: [LegacyUG] FamilySearch sync data question

[Andrew Robbie]

Jenny,

Thank you for letting me know it's not just  me...

Brian has agreed to help me research this, so once we find out what's going on, 
I'm sure he'll post an update.

Thanks,
Andrew

-Original Message-
From: LegacyUserGroup  On Behalf Of 
Jenny M Benson
Sent: Monday, April 6, 2020 4:21 AM
To: legacyusergroup@legacyusers.com
Subject: Re: [LegacyUG] FamilySearch sync data question

On 06/04/2020 03:39, Andrew Robbie wrote:
> So, it appears that no parents are recorded on FamilySearch.org for 
> this individual.  So why can I not use the FS popup to simply click 
> the "move to right hand side" for this individual's father and mother 
> and done...?  The only option I get for the parents is ‘unlink’…
> 

I have found exactly the same.  The only solution I have come up with is to 
note the FSID(s) of the child(ren) then go to the parents in FS and add the 
child(ren) to the parents.

Very annoying because it makes the process take so much longer.

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Re: [LegacyUG] FamilySearch sync data question

[Brian Kelly]

I think this is spam. Do NOT click the link in the original email.

Brian Kelly

On 06-Apr.-20 11:41 a.m., bdmitche...@tx.rr.com wrote:

Here is an update of the project.
link removed as spam.
Archive password: 

I have replied to Andrew off this list because graphics and attachments

are not allow by the list rules. I need some screen shots from him. If
we are able to resolve or find an explanation of his problem I will
report back.

Brian Kelly

On 05-Apr.-20 10:39 p.m., Andrew Robbie wrote:

Thanks Brian,

So, it appears that no parents are recorded on FamilySearch.org for this
individual.  So why can I not use the FS popup to simply click the "move
to right hand side" for this individual's father and mother and
done...?  The only option I get for the parents is ‘unlink’…

Must I go onto the web site FamilySearch.org to manually add each parent
using the ID that I already have in Legacy, but cannot perform that
function from the FS popup dialog?

Thanks,

Andrew

-Original Message-
From: LegacyUserGroup  On
Behalf Of Brian Kelly
Sent: Sunday, April 5, 2020 5:03 PM
To: legacyusergroup@legacyusers.com
Subject: Re: [LegacyUG] FamilySearch sync data question

You have eliminated two of the three possible reasons so by elimination
check for the third reason "The person is linked to the wrong individual
in FamilySearch." That becomes the most likely.

I just had a case in my own file where my file had different parents for
the FS person. The parents did not display and had the red chain icon on
the My Legacy Person side of the screen because of that difference.

A careful examination of the sources in my file revealed that I had
linked my Legacy person to the wrong FS person based on similar names of
parents but I had added an incorrect spouse from a marriage record.

Examining the source details for the marriage revealed that the
incorrect person was born in Ireland according to the marriage source
while my person was born in Canada.

I unlinked my person by deleting the incorrect FSID. A new search found
the correct FSID so the person is now linked to the correct parents both
in my file and in FamilySearch.org. I have unlinked the incorrect spouse
and children, deleted a whole bunch of events which applied to the
incorrect person and will now have to rebuild the person's family (FS
has a different spouse and list of children).

Brian Kelly

On 05-Apr.-20 3:24 p.m., Andrew Robbie wrote:

  > Hi all,

  >

  > Hope everyone is staying safely indoors and doing lots of family

  > history stuff! J

  >

  > Question regarding synchronizing children via the Family Search popup

  > dialog.

  >

  > Often, I only have the "Unlink Person" option, and I cannot tell why I

  > cannot add that child to the currently displayed family in Family

  > Search.  The tool tip text states:

  >

  > For this individual:

  >

  > Doesn’t appear to be any duplicates.  FS states Possible Duplicates

  > (0)

  >

  > Person has death place and date, so should be considered not living.

  >

  > The FS-ID is correct in Legacy and in Family Search.  LY6Z-6MR for

  > this example above.

  >

  > So why can I not make this link in the Family Search pop up dialog?

  > E.g. copy the child from left hand side (My Legacy Person) to right

  > hand side (Family Search Person).

  >

  > Or, maybe the question should be, why is the individual NOT displayed

  > on the right hand side (Family Search Person)?

  >

  > Thanks,

  >

  > Andrew

  >

  >

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Re: [LegacyUG] FamilySearch sync data question

[Brian Kelly]

I have replied to Andrew off this list because graphics and attachments 
are not allow by the list rules. I need some screen shots from him. If 
we are able to resolve or find an explanation of his problem I will 
report back.


Brian Kelly

On 05-Apr.-20 10:39 p.m., Andrew Robbie wrote:

Thanks Brian,

So, it appears that no parents are recorded on FamilySearch.org for this 
individual.  So why can I not use the FS popup to simply click the "move 
to right hand side" for this individual's father and mother and 
done...?  The only option I get for the parents is ‘unlink’…


Must I go onto the web site FamilySearch.org to manually add each parent 
using the ID that I already have in Legacy, but cannot perform that 
function from the FS popup dialog?


Thanks,

Andrew

-Original Message-
From: LegacyUserGroup  On 
Behalf Of Brian Kelly

Sent: Sunday, April 5, 2020 5:03 PM
To: legacyusergroup@legacyusers.com
Subject: Re: [LegacyUG] FamilySearch sync data question

You have eliminated two of the three possible reasons so by elimination 
check for the third reason "The person is linked to the wrong individual 
in FamilySearch." That becomes the most likely.


I just had a case in my own file where my file had different parents for 
the FS person. The parents did not display and had the red chain icon on 
the My Legacy Person side of the screen because of that difference.


A careful examination of the sources in my file revealed that I had 
linked my Legacy person to the wrong FS person based on similar names of 
parents but I had added an incorrect spouse from a marriage record.


Examining the source details for the marriage revealed that the 
incorrect person was born in Ireland according to the marriage source 
while my person was born in Canada.


I unlinked my person by deleting the incorrect FSID. A new search found 
the correct FSID so the person is now linked to the correct parents both 
in my file and in FamilySearch.org. I have unlinked the incorrect spouse 
and children, deleted a whole bunch of events which applied to the 
incorrect person and will now have to rebuild the person's family (FS 
has a different spouse and list of children).


Brian Kelly

On 05-Apr.-20 3:24 p.m., Andrew Robbie wrote:

 > Hi all,

 >

 > Hope everyone is staying safely indoors and doing lots of family

 > history stuff! J

 >

 > Question regarding synchronizing children via the Family Search popup

 > dialog.

 >

 > Often, I only have the "Unlink Person" option, and I cannot tell why I

 > cannot add that child to the currently displayed family in Family

 > Search.  The tool tip text states:

 >

 > For this individual:

 >

 > Doesn’t appear to be any duplicates.  FS states Possible Duplicates

 > (0)

 >

 > Person has death place and date, so should be considered not living.

 >

 > The FS-ID is correct in Legacy and in Family Search.  LY6Z-6MR for

 > this example above.

 >

 > So why can I not make this link in the Family Search pop up dialog?

 > E.g. copy the child from left hand side (My Legacy Person) to right

 > hand side (Family Search Person).

 >

 > Or, maybe the question should be, why is the individual NOT displayed

 > on the right hand side (Family Search Person)?

 >

 > Thanks,

 >

 > Andrew

 >

 >

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Re: [LegacyUG] FamilySearch sync data question

[Jenny M Benson]

On 06/04/2020 03:39, Andrew Robbie wrote:
So, it appears that no parents are recorded on FamilySearch.org for this 
individual.  So why can I not use the FS popup to simply click the "move 
to right hand side" for this individual's father and mother and 
done...?  The only option I get for the parents is ‘unlink’…




I have found exactly the same.  The only solution I have come up with is 
to note the FSID(s) of the child(ren) then go to the parents in FS and 
add the child(ren) to the parents.


Very annoying because it makes the process take so much longer.

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Re: [LegacyUG] FamilySearch sync data question

[Jane Linkswiler]

I’m sorry, I guess I misunderstood. I thought you wanted to transfer this 
individual directly into a family in your program. Sorry,

 

Jane in Phoenix

 

From: LegacyUserGroup  On Behalf Of 
Andrew Robbie
Sent: Sunday, April 5, 2020 8:20 PM
To: 'Legacy User Group' 
Subject: Re: [LegacyUG] FamilySearch sync data question

 

Hi Jane in Phoenix,

 

What exactly do you mean by ‘transferring the individual’ ?

 

Andrew

 

From: LegacyUserGroup mailto:legacyusergroup-boun...@legacyusers.com> > On Behalf Of Jane Linkswiler
Sent: Sunday, April 5, 2020 11:02 PM
To: 'Legacy User Group' mailto:legacyusergroup@legacyusers.com> >
Subject: Re: [LegacyUG] FamilySearch sync data question

 

How about transferring the individual and connecting it in your program.

 

Jane in Phoenix

 

From: LegacyUserGroup mailto:legacyusergroup-boun...@legacyusers.com> > On Behalf Of Andrew Robbie
Sent: Sunday, April 5, 2020 7:39 PM
To: 'Legacy User Group' mailto:legacyusergroup@legacyusers.com> >
Subject: Re: [LegacyUG] FamilySearch sync data question

 

Thanks Brian,

 

So, it appears that no parents are recorded on FamilySearch.org for this 
individual.  So why can I not use the FS popup to simply click the "move to 
right hand side" for this individual's father and mother and done...?  The only 
option I get for the parents is ‘unlink’…

 



 

Must I go onto the web site FamilySearch.org to manually add each parent using 
the ID that I already have in Legacy, but cannot perform that function from the 
FS popup dialog?

 

Thanks,

Andrew

 

-Original Message-
From: LegacyUserGroup mailto:legacyusergroup-boun...@legacyusers.com> > On Behalf Of Brian Kelly
Sent: Sunday, April 5, 2020 5:03 PM
To: legacyusergroup@legacyusers.com <mailto:legacyusergroup@legacyusers.com> 
Subject: Re: [LegacyUG] FamilySearch sync data question

 

You have eliminated two of the three possible reasons so by elimination check 
for the third reason "The person is linked to the wrong individual in 
FamilySearch." That becomes the most likely.

 

I just had a case in my own file where my file had different parents for the FS 
person. The parents did not display and had the red chain icon on the My Legacy 
Person side of the screen because of that difference.

 

A careful examination of the sources in my file revealed that I had linked my 
Legacy person to the wrong FS person based on similar names of parents but I 
had added an incorrect spouse from a marriage record. 

Examining the source details for the marriage revealed that the incorrect 
person was born in Ireland according to the marriage source while my person was 
born in Canada.

 

I unlinked my person by deleting the incorrect FSID. A new search found the 
correct FSID so the person is now linked to the correct parents both in my file 
and in FamilySearch.org. I have unlinked the incorrect spouse and children, 
deleted a whole bunch of events which applied to the incorrect person and will 
now have to rebuild the person's family (FS has a different spouse and list of 
children).

 

Brian Kelly

 

On 05-Apr.-20 3:24 p.m., Andrew Robbie wrote:

> Hi all,

> 

> Hope everyone is staying safely indoors and doing lots of family 

> history stuff! J

> 

> Question regarding synchronizing children via the Family Search popup 

> dialog.

> 

> Often, I only have the "Unlink Person" option, and I cannot tell why I 

> cannot add that child to the currently displayed family in Family 

> Search.  The tool tip text states:

> 

> For this individual:

> 

> Doesn’t appear to be any duplicates.  FS states Possible Duplicates 

> (0)

> 

> Person has death place and date, so should be considered not living.

> 

> The FS-ID is correct in Legacy and in Family Search.  LY6Z-6MR for 

> this example above.

> 

> So why can I not make this link in the Family Search pop up dialog?  

> E.g. copy the child from left hand side (My Legacy Person) to right 

> hand side (Family Search Person).

> 

> Or, maybe the question should be, why is the individual NOT displayed 

> on the right hand side (Family Search Person)?

> 

> Thanks,

> 

> Andrew

> 

> 

 

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Re: [LegacyUG] FamilySearch sync data question

[Andrew Robbie]

Hi Jane in Phoenix,

 

What exactly do you mean by ‘transferring the individual’ ?

 

Andrew

 

From: LegacyUserGroup  On Behalf Of 
Jane Linkswiler
Sent: Sunday, April 5, 2020 11:02 PM
To: 'Legacy User Group' 
Subject: Re: [LegacyUG] FamilySearch sync data question

 

How about transferring the individual and connecting it in your program.

 

Jane in Phoenix

 

From: LegacyUserGroup mailto:legacyusergroup-boun...@legacyusers.com> > On Behalf Of Andrew Robbie
Sent: Sunday, April 5, 2020 7:39 PM
To: 'Legacy User Group' mailto:legacyusergroup@legacyusers.com> >
Subject: Re: [LegacyUG] FamilySearch sync data question

 

Thanks Brian,

 

So, it appears that no parents are recorded on FamilySearch.org for this 
individual.  So why can I not use the FS popup to simply click the "move to 
right hand side" for this individual's father and mother and done...?  The only 
option I get for the parents is ‘unlink’…

 



 

Must I go onto the web site FamilySearch.org to manually add each parent using 
the ID that I already have in Legacy, but cannot perform that function from the 
FS popup dialog?

 

Thanks,

Andrew

 

-Original Message-
From: LegacyUserGroup mailto:legacyusergroup-boun...@legacyusers.com> > On Behalf Of Brian Kelly
Sent: Sunday, April 5, 2020 5:03 PM
To: legacyusergroup@legacyusers.com <mailto:legacyusergroup@legacyusers.com> 
Subject: Re: [LegacyUG] FamilySearch sync data question

 

You have eliminated two of the three possible reasons so by elimination check 
for the third reason "The person is linked to the wrong individual in 
FamilySearch." That becomes the most likely.

 

I just had a case in my own file where my file had different parents for the FS 
person. The parents did not display and had the red chain icon on the My Legacy 
Person side of the screen because of that difference.

 

A careful examination of the sources in my file revealed that I had linked my 
Legacy person to the wrong FS person based on similar names of parents but I 
had added an incorrect spouse from a marriage record. 

Examining the source details for the marriage revealed that the incorrect 
person was born in Ireland according to the marriage source while my person was 
born in Canada.

 

I unlinked my person by deleting the incorrect FSID. A new search found the 
correct FSID so the person is now linked to the correct parents both in my file 
and in FamilySearch.org. I have unlinked the incorrect spouse and children, 
deleted a whole bunch of events which applied to the incorrect person and will 
now have to rebuild the person's family (FS has a different spouse and list of 
children).

 

Brian Kelly

 

On 05-Apr.-20 3:24 p.m., Andrew Robbie wrote:

> Hi all,

> 

> Hope everyone is staying safely indoors and doing lots of family 

> history stuff! J

> 

> Question regarding synchronizing children via the Family Search popup 

> dialog.

> 

> Often, I only have the "Unlink Person" option, and I cannot tell why I 

> cannot add that child to the currently displayed family in Family 

> Search.  The tool tip text states:

> 

> For this individual:

> 

> Doesn’t appear to be any duplicates.  FS states Possible Duplicates 

> (0)

> 

> Person has death place and date, so should be considered not living.

> 

> The FS-ID is correct in Legacy and in Family Search.  LY6Z-6MR for 

> this example above.

> 

> So why can I not make this link in the Family Search pop up dialog?  

> E.g. copy the child from left hand side (My Legacy Person) to right 

> hand side (Family Search Person).

> 

> Or, maybe the question should be, why is the individual NOT displayed 

> on the right hand side (Family Search Person)?

> 

> Thanks,

> 

> Andrew

> 

> 

 

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Re: [LegacyUG] FamilySearch sync data question

[Jane Linkswiler]

How about transferring the individual and connecting it in your program.

 

Jane in Phoenix

 

From: LegacyUserGroup  On Behalf Of 
Andrew Robbie
Sent: Sunday, April 5, 2020 7:39 PM
To: 'Legacy User Group' 
Subject: Re: [LegacyUG] FamilySearch sync data question

 

Thanks Brian,

 

So, it appears that no parents are recorded on FamilySearch.org for this 
individual.  So why can I not use the FS popup to simply click the "move to 
right hand side" for this individual's father and mother and done...?  The only 
option I get for the parents is ‘unlink’…

 



 

Must I go onto the web site FamilySearch.org to manually add each parent using 
the ID that I already have in Legacy, but cannot perform that function from the 
FS popup dialog?

 

Thanks,

Andrew

 

-Original Message-
From: LegacyUserGroup mailto:legacyusergroup-boun...@legacyusers.com> > On Behalf Of Brian Kelly
Sent: Sunday, April 5, 2020 5:03 PM
To: legacyusergroup@legacyusers.com <mailto:legacyusergroup@legacyusers.com> 
Subject: Re: [LegacyUG] FamilySearch sync data question

 

You have eliminated two of the three possible reasons so by elimination check 
for the third reason "The person is linked to the wrong individual in 
FamilySearch." That becomes the most likely.

 

I just had a case in my own file where my file had different parents for the FS 
person. The parents did not display and had the red chain icon on the My Legacy 
Person side of the screen because of that difference.

 

A careful examination of the sources in my file revealed that I had linked my 
Legacy person to the wrong FS person based on similar names of parents but I 
had added an incorrect spouse from a marriage record. 

Examining the source details for the marriage revealed that the incorrect 
person was born in Ireland according to the marriage source while my person was 
born in Canada.

 

I unlinked my person by deleting the incorrect FSID. A new search found the 
correct FSID so the person is now linked to the correct parents both in my file 
and in FamilySearch.org. I have unlinked the incorrect spouse and children, 
deleted a whole bunch of events which applied to the incorrect person and will 
now have to rebuild the person's family (FS has a different spouse and list of 
children).

 

Brian Kelly

 

On 05-Apr.-20 3:24 p.m., Andrew Robbie wrote:

> Hi all,

> 

> Hope everyone is staying safely indoors and doing lots of family 

> history stuff! J

> 

> Question regarding synchronizing children via the Family Search popup 

> dialog.

> 

> Often, I only have the "Unlink Person" option, and I cannot tell why I 

> cannot add that child to the currently displayed family in Family 

> Search.  The tool tip text states:

> 

> For this individual:

> 

> Doesn’t appear to be any duplicates.  FS states Possible Duplicates 

> (0)

> 

> Person has death place and date, so should be considered not living.

> 

> The FS-ID is correct in Legacy and in Family Search.  LY6Z-6MR for 

> this example above.

> 

> So why can I not make this link in the Family Search pop up dialog?  

> E.g. copy the child from left hand side (My Legacy Person) to right 

> hand side (Family Search Person).

> 

> Or, maybe the question should be, why is the individual NOT displayed 

> on the right hand side (Family Search Person)?

> 

> Thanks,

> 

> Andrew

> 

> 

 

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Re: [LegacyUG] FamilySearch sync data question

[Andrew Robbie]

Thanks Brian,

 

So, it appears that no parents are recorded on FamilySearch.org for this 
individual.  So why can I not use the FS popup to simply click the "move to 
right hand side" for this individual's father and mother and done...?  The only 
option I get for the parents is ‘unlink’…

 



 

Must I go onto the web site FamilySearch.org to manually add each parent using 
the ID that I already have in Legacy, but cannot perform that function from the 
FS popup dialog?

 

Thanks,

Andrew

 

-Original Message-
From: LegacyUserGroup  On Behalf Of 
Brian Kelly
Sent: Sunday, April 5, 2020 5:03 PM
To: legacyusergroup@legacyusers.com
Subject: Re: [LegacyUG] FamilySearch sync data question

 

You have eliminated two of the three possible reasons so by elimination check 
for the third reason "The person is linked to the wrong individual in 
FamilySearch." That becomes the most likely.

 

I just had a case in my own file where my file had different parents for the FS 
person. The parents did not display and had the red chain icon on the My Legacy 
Person side of the screen because of that difference.

 

A careful examination of the sources in my file revealed that I had linked my 
Legacy person to the wrong FS person based on similar names of parents but I 
had added an incorrect spouse from a marriage record. 

Examining the source details for the marriage revealed that the incorrect 
person was born in Ireland according to the marriage source while my person was 
born in Canada.

 

I unlinked my person by deleting the incorrect FSID. A new search found the 
correct FSID so the person is now linked to the correct parents both in my file 
and in FamilySearch.org. I have unlinked the incorrect spouse and children, 
deleted a whole bunch of events which applied to the incorrect person and will 
now have to rebuild the person's family (FS has a different spouse and list of 
children).

 

Brian Kelly

 

On 05-Apr.-20 3:24 p.m., Andrew Robbie wrote:

> Hi all,

> 

> Hope everyone is staying safely indoors and doing lots of family 

> history stuff! J

> 

> Question regarding synchronizing children via the Family Search popup 

> dialog.

> 

> Often, I only have the "Unlink Person" option, and I cannot tell why I 

> cannot add that child to the currently displayed family in Family 

> Search.  The tool tip text states:

> 

> For this individual:

> 

> Doesn’t appear to be any duplicates.  FS states Possible Duplicates 

> (0)

> 

> Person has death place and date, so should be considered not living.

> 

> The FS-ID is correct in Legacy and in Family Search.  LY6Z-6MR for 

> this example above.

> 

> So why can I not make this link in the Family Search pop up dialog?  

> E.g. copy the child from left hand side (My Legacy Person) to right 

> hand side (Family Search Person).

> 

> Or, maybe the question should be, why is the individual NOT displayed 

> on the right hand side (Family Search Person)?

> 

> Thanks,

> 

> Andrew

> 

> 

 

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Re: [LegacyUG] FamilySearch sync data question

[Brian Kelly]

You have eliminated two of the three possible reasons so by elimination 
check for the third reason "The person is linked to the wrong individual 
in FamilySearch." That becomes the most likely.


I just had a case in my own file where my file had different parents for 
the FS person. The parents did not display and had the red chain icon on 
the My Legacy Person side of the screen because of that difference.


A careful examination of the sources in my file revealed that I had 
linked my Legacy person to the wrong FS person based on similar names of 
parents but I had added an incorrect spouse from a marriage record. 
Examining the source details for the marriage revealed that the 
incorrect person was born in Ireland according to the marriage source 
while my person was born in Canada.


I unlinked my person by deleting the incorrect FSID. A new search found 
the correct FSID so the person is now linked to the correct parents both 
in my file and in FamilySearch.org. I have unlinked the incorrect spouse 
and children, deleted a whole bunch of events which applied to the 
incorrect person and will now have to rebuild the person's family (FS 
has a different spouse and list of children).


Brian Kelly

On 05-Apr.-20 3:24 p.m., Andrew Robbie wrote:

Hi all,

Hope everyone is staying safely indoors and doing lots of family history 
stuff! J


Question regarding synchronizing children via the Family Search popup 
dialog.


Often, I only have the "Unlink Person" option, and I cannot tell why I 
cannot add that child to the currently displayed family in Family 
Search.  The tool tip text states:


For this individual:

Doesn’t appear to be any duplicates.  FS states Possible Duplicates (0)

Person has death place and date, so should be considered not living.

The FS-ID is correct in Legacy and in Family Search.  LY6Z-6MR for this 
example above.


So why can I not make this link in the Family Search pop up dialog?  
E.g. copy the child from left hand side (My Legacy Person) to right hand 
side (Family Search Person).


Or, maybe the question should be, why is the individual NOT displayed on 
the right hand side (Family Search Person)?


Thanks,

Andrew




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[LegacyUG] FamilySearch sync data question

[Andrew Robbie]

Hi all,

 

Hope everyone is staying safely indoors and doing lots of family history stuff! 
 :)

 

 

Question regarding synchronizing children via the Family Search popup dialog.

 

Often, I only have the "Unlink Person" option, and I cannot tell why I cannot 
add that child to the currently displayed family in Family Search.  The tool 
tip text states:

 



 

For this individual:

Doesn’t appear to be any duplicates.  FS states Possible Duplicates (0)

Person has death place and date, so should be considered not living.

The FS-ID is correct in Legacy and in Family Search.  LY6Z-6MR for this example 
above.

 

So why can I not make this link in the Family Search pop up dialog?  E.g. copy 
the child from left hand side (My Legacy Person) to right hand side (Family 
Search Person).

 

Or, maybe the question should be, why is the individual NOT displayed on the 
right hand side (Family Search Person)?

 

Thanks,

Andrew

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Re: [LegacyUG] FamilySearch

[Leon Chapman]

Mine works fine

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> On Apr 16, 2019, at 2:48 PM, Michele Lewis  
> wrote:
> 
> I was doing extensive FamilySearch testing this morning for several hours and 
> had no problems whatsoever.  You may need to re-install just the FamilySearch 
> module. You can send an email to supp...@legacyfamilytree.com for 
> step-by-step instructions.
> 
> 
>> On Tue, Apr 16, 2019 at 17:32 John  wrote:
>> Has anyone been having issues connecting with FamilySearch from within 
>> Legacy 9 (my version is current); also when I try to connect directly to 
>> FamilySearch I'm getting a message saying I'm temporarily blocked and 
>> try again later -- this has been ongoing for several days.
>> 
>> Thanks,
>> 
>> John
>> 
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Re: [LegacyUG] FamilySearch

[Reg Sherlock]

Hi John, Sadly has been intermittent since Sat 6th April 2019 (AEST), same 
message appearing.
Tried again as message implies and after few attempts connected only to do 
complete sign in again (I  am a registered LDS/Family Search member), this was 
worse on Sun 14th April 2019.
Have had no problems since, my operating system is WIN 10 Ver 1903.



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From: John
Sent: Wednesday, 17 April 2019 7:32 AM
To: LegacyUserGroup@legacyusers.com
Subject: [LegacyUG] FamilySearch

Has anyone been having issues connecting with FamilySearch from within 
Legacy 9 (my version is current); also when I try to connect directly to 
FamilySearch I'm getting a message saying I'm temporarily blocked and 
try again later -- this has been ongoing for several days.

Thanks,

John


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Re: [LegacyUG] FamilySearch

[Michele Lewis]

I was doing extensive FamilySearch testing this morning for several hours
and had no problems whatsoever.  You may need to re-install just the
FamilySearch module. You can send an email to supp...@legacyfamilytree.com
for step-by-step instructions.


On Tue, Apr 16, 2019 at 17:32 John  wrote:

> Has anyone been having issues connecting with FamilySearch from within
> Legacy 9 (my version is current); also when I try to connect directly to
> FamilySearch I'm getting a message saying I'm temporarily blocked and
> try again later -- this has been ongoing for several days.
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> Thanks,
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[LegacyUG] FamilySearch

[John]

Has anyone been having issues connecting with FamilySearch from within 
Legacy 9 (my version is current); also when I try to connect directly to 
FamilySearch I'm getting a message saying I'm temporarily blocked and 
try again later -- this has been ongoing for several days.


Thanks,

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Re: [LegacyUG] familysearch options

[Barbara Lewis]

Thank you for all this information!

From: LegacyUserGroup [mailto:legacyusergroup-boun...@legacyusers.com] On 
Behalf Of Richard Young
Sent: Saturday, December 2, 2017 8:12 PM
To: Legacy User Group <legacyusergroup@legacyusers.com>
Subject: Re: [LegacyUG] familysearch options

You turn on FamilySearch integration at Options, Customize, Option1.8, and the 
information display at 1.9.

If you want the hints turned on for FamilySearch go to 8.13

Richard

On Sat, Dec 2, 2017 at 6:03 PM, Barbara Lewis 
<lassiej...@outlook.com<mailto:lassiej...@outlook.com>> wrote:
I just reinstalled Legacy 9 on a new computer. I can’t find where familysearch 
options are found.

Barbara L.

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Re: [LegacyUG] familysearch options

[Richard Young]

You turn on FamilySearch integration at Options, Customize, Option1.8, and
the information display at 1.9.

If you want the hints turned on for FamilySearch go to 8.13

Richard

On Sat, Dec 2, 2017 at 6:03 PM, Barbara Lewis 
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> familysearch options are found.
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[LegacyUG] familysearch options

[Barbara Lewis]

I just reinstalled Legacy 9 on a new computer. I can't find where familysearch 
options are found.

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Re: [LegacyUG] Familysearch download - error

[Darlene Dimitrie]

I did finally manage to update to 8.0.0.596 - what I didn't put in the 
other email is that I was trying to update and kept getting an error 
about an "access violation".
This time I went to the Legacy Home Tab and did the update from there, 
instead of having the LFS tell me I needed to update.  This did work.
Now the LFS seems to be working better.  I only got 725 people this time 
and it finished fairly quickly.  This looks accurate. I'm not sure why I 
got 30,000'ish.


Thank you Brian and Cathy for your help.  The latest update did the 
trick and I appreciate the link to the training for LFS.   I didn't 
realize how it worked when I went in a few weeks ago and I ended up 
using the chat support to have them guide me through fixing what I had 
done.  Boy, did I learn my lesson!  I didn't know that it worked in 
"collaborative" mode.  I assumed it worked like Ancestry where you work 
in your own little world and it doesn't affect other people's work.


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Cathy Pinner wrote:

Darlene,
This may be helpful as you learn LFS
http://support.legacyfamilytree.com/article/AA-01035

Also, if you actually download, make sure you download to a new file.

You do need to keep Legacy up to date as FamilySearch often change 
things so Legacy has to change to maintain the link.


Cathy

Brian Kelly wrote:


Update to the latest version 8.0.0.596 dated 25 Feb and try again. The
latest update includes some changes/fixes to LFS.

Brian Kelly

On 11-Mar-17 1:14 PM, Darlene Dimitrie wrote:


Using Legacy Deluxe 8.0.0.573 and legacyfs.exe 8.0. Build is from 3 Nov
2016 22:46:18

Using Windows 10 Home Version 1607 Build 14393.693









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Re: [LegacyUG] Familysearch download - error

[Cathy Pinner]

Darlene,
This may be helpful as you learn LFS
http://support.legacyfamilytree.com/article/AA-01035

Also, if you actually download, make sure you download to a new file.

You do need to keep Legacy up to date as FamilySearch often change 
things so Legacy has to change to maintain the link.


Cathy

Brian Kelly wrote:


Update to the latest version 8.0.0.596 dated 25 Feb and try again. The
latest update includes some changes/fixes to LFS.

Brian Kelly

On 11-Mar-17 1:14 PM, Darlene Dimitrie wrote:


Using Legacy Deluxe 8.0.0.573 and legacyfs.exe 8.0. Build is from 3 Nov
2016 22:46:18

Using Windows 10 Home Version 1607 Build 14393.693




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Re: [LegacyUG] Familysearch download - error

[Brian Kelly]

Update to the latest version 8.0.0.596 dated 25 Feb and try again. The 
latest update includes some changes/fixes to LFS.


Brian Kelly

On 11-Mar-17 1:14 PM, Darlene Dimitrie wrote:

Using Legacy Deluxe 8.0.0.573 and legacyfs.exe 8.0.  Build is from 3 Nov
2016 22:46:18

Using Windows 10 Home Version 1607 Build 14393.693




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Re: [LegacyUG] Familysearch download - error

[Darlene Dimitrie]

Using Legacy Deluxe 8.0.0.573 and legacyfs.exe 8.0.  Build is from 3 Nov 
2016 22:46:18


Using Windows 10 Home Version 1607 Build 14393.693

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Darlene D wrote:

Hi everyone,

1)  This is the first time I've written to the group.  I was working 
with Familysearch and I got this error (see Capture.jpg) about not 
being able to perform join, group, sort or indexed restriction 


The download stopped.  I tried it again a few days later and I got 
about 90 more people, but the same error and again the download stopped.


I wasn't sure if this was the right forum to ask about this, or I 
should be sending this in to Legacy?


This is the first time I've used the Familysearch interface. Maybe I'm 
just not familiar enough with FS, but when I looked at the tree there, 
I only saw maybe 20 people, but the download pulled down about 
30,000.  I was quite shocked.  I think I need to learn more about how 
to use Familysearch.







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[LegacyUG] Familysearch download - error

[Darlene D]

Hi everyone,

1)  This is the first time I've written to the group.  I was working 
with Familysearch and I got this error (see Capture.jpg) about not being 
able to perform join, group, sort or indexed restriction 


The download stopped.  I tried it again a few days later and I got about 
90 more people, but the same error and again the download stopped.


I wasn't sure if this was the right forum to ask about this, or I should 
be sending this in to Legacy?


This is the first time I've used the Familysearch interface. Maybe I'm 
just not familiar enough with FS, but when I looked at the tree there, I 
only saw maybe 20 people, but the download pulled down about 30,000.  I 
was quite shocked.  I think I need to learn more about how to use 
Familysearch.


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Re: [LegacyUG] FamilySearch [ was Uploading GedComs]

[smm]

Thanks, Pat, but for now I am just not publishing...

Sue


On 5/2/2016 10:07 AM, Pat Hickin wrote:
I suggest Wikitree, which I love, and over which you have some control 
of recent ancestors.  I'll be happy to send you an invitation if you 
need one.


Pat

On Sun, May 1, 2016 at 10:50 PM, smm > wrote:


In the past, I uploaded a small tree to FamilySearch and found to
my dismay that 1) other people can make changes and I have no
control over those changes and 2) I can't take my tree down once
someone else has modified it. So glad it was a limited tree,
because now almost every "fact" has been altered one or more times
and it no longer resembles the family it was intended for. All the
usual mistakes: repeating other trees that are wrong, wrong,
wrong; confusing two individuals with the same name, and jsut flat
out inventing events that never happened

Maybe it is different now, but although I use their databases all
the time I will never contribute another tree.

Sue

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Stayton, Oregon



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Re: [LegacyUG] FamilySearch [ was Uploading GedComs]

[Pat Hickin]

I suggest Wikitree, which I love, and over which you have some control of
recent ancestors.  I'll be happy to send you an invitation if you need one.

Pat

On Sun, May 1, 2016 at 10:50 PM, smm  wrote:

> In the past, I uploaded a small tree to FamilySearch and found to my
> dismay that 1) other people can make changes and I have no control over
> those changes and 2) I can't take my tree down once someone else has
> modified it. So glad it was a limited tree, because now almost every "fact"
> has been altered one or more times and it no longer resembles the family it
> was intended for. All the usual mistakes: repeating other trees that are
> wrong, wrong, wrong; confusing two individuals with the same name, and jsut
> flat out inventing events that never happened
>
> Maybe it is different now, but although I use their databases all the time
> I will never contribute another tree.
>
> Sue
>
> Susan Wallace Masse
> Stayton, Oregon
>
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[LegacyUG] FamilySearch [ was Uploading GedComs]

[smm]

In the past, I uploaded a small tree to FamilySearch and found to my 
dismay that 1) other people can make changes and I have no control over 
those changes and 2) I can't take my tree down once someone else has 
modified it. So glad it was a limited tree, because now almost every 
"fact" has been altered one or more times and it no longer resembles the 
family it was intended for. All the usual mistakes: repeating other 
trees that are wrong, wrong, wrong; confusing two individuals with the 
same name, and jsut flat out inventing events that never happened


Maybe it is different now, but although I use their databases all the 
time I will never contribute another tree.


Sue

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Stayton, Oregon



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[LegacyUG] FamilySearch connection

[Michele/Support]

We are aware that the connection between Legacy and FamilySearch is
currently down and we are working on it.  Hopefully the issue will be
resolved soon.

 

 

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[LegacyUG] FamilySearch / FamilyTree site changes

[Sherry/Support]

The church made changes on the FamilySearch / Family Tree servers. The
latest release of Legacy 8.0.0.439 will work just fine.

However, you will probably run into problems with trying to use Legacy
FamilySearch in earlier builds and earlier versions of Legacy so please
update or upgrade right away if you are using this feature.


Sincerely,
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RE: [LegacyUG] FamilySearch View

[Bobby Johnson]

Boyd and Mike,
I agree that starting in FamilySearch View is not where one would normally 
start.  I was interested in this for a presentation to a user's group.  Thanks 
for your confirmation of the results I am getting.
Bobby

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Subject: Re: [LegacyUG] FamilySearch View

On 08 Feb 2014 04:55, Bobby Johnson wrote:

 I am using 8.0.0.397 in windows 7.  In preparation for a Legacy Users
 Group meeting, I set option 1.1 to FamilySearch View and saved it.
 When I opened my family file it opened in the Research view.  Does
 anyone else see this happening?  I don't want to use this setting but
 did want to demonstrate it to the group.  Any help will be appreciated.

You're not losing your mind :-) This does happen.

I would guess (from a programming point of view) that the code uses the 
position within the list of the selected item to initiate the startup view. 
Research Guidance and FamilySearch are two consecutive entries in the list. The 
programmer has simply associated the wrong number with FamilySearch.

As others will no doubt say, offering FamilySearch as a startup option makes 
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[LegacyUG] FamilySearch View

[Bobby Johnson]

I am using 8.0.0.397 in windows 7.  In preparation for a Legacy Users Group
meeting, I set option 1.1 to FamilySearch View and saved it.  When I opened my
family file it opened in the Research view.  Does anyone else see this
happening?  I don't want to use this setting but did want to demonstrate it to
the group.  Any help will be appreciated.
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Re: [LegacyUG] FamilySearch View

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On 08 Feb 2014 04:55, Bobby Johnson wrote:

 I am using 8.0.0.397 in windows 7.  In preparation for a Legacy Users Group
 meeting, I set option 1.1 to FamilySearch View and saved it.  When I opened
 my family file it opened in the Research view.  Does anyone else see this
 happening?  I don't want to use this setting but did want to demonstrate it
 to the group.  Any help will be appreciated.

You're not losing your mind :-) This does happen.

I would guess (from a programming point of view) that the code uses the position
within the list of the selected item to initiate the startup view. Research
Guidance and FamilySearch are two consecutive entries in the list. The
programmer has simply associated the wrong number with FamilySearch.

As others will no doubt say, offering FamilySearch as a startup option makes
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RE: [LegacyUG] FamilySearch

[Judith]

Yes, I still get parameters message.  It's just this family file, I have 4 
other family files where it works fine.
Judith

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Sent: Thursday, December 05, 2013 11:52 PM
To: LegacyUserGroup@LegacyUsers.com
Subject: Re: [LegacyUG] FamilySearch

Judith,

Did you set the option to integrate this family file with FamilySearch?

john.

At 11:41 PM 12/5/2013, Judith wrote:
I am having a problem with opening FamilySearch on Legacy8, but the
problem is with just one of my family files.  When I first opened this
particular family file, it did work with FamilySearch, now when I click
on it, it initializes, finds my FamilySearch password and then opens
with the message 'Too few parameters.  Expected 1'.  If I click O.K. on
the 'parameters' message it keeps the main screen
open, but there are no names in the list.   The message is 'No one
is selected in the filter list, please select someone or modify the
filter list'. The 'Current Filter' is set to 'No extra filtering'.  I
know there must be some small setting or maybe a missing file?
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[LegacyUG] FamilySearch

[Judith]

I am having a problem with opening FamilySearch on Legacy8, but the problem
is with just one of my family files.  When I first opened this particular
family file, it did work with FamilySearch, now when I click on it, it
initializes, finds my FamilySearch password and then opens with the message
'Too few parameters.  Expected 1'.  If I click O.K. on the 'parameters'
message it keeps the main screen open, but there are no names in the list.
The message is 'No one is selected in the filter list, please select someone
or modify the filter list'. The 'Current Filter' is set to 'No extra
filtering'.  I know there must be some small setting or maybe a missing
file?

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Re: [LegacyUG] FamilySearch

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Judith,

Did you set the option to integrate this family file with FamilySearch?

john.

At 11:41 PM 12/5/2013, Judith wrote:
I am having a problem with opening FamilySearch on Legacy8, but the
problem is with just one of my family files.  When I first opened
this particular family file, it did work with FamilySearch, now when
I click on it, it initializes, finds my FamilySearch password and
then opens with the message 'Too few parameters.  Expected 1'.  If I
click O.K. on the 'parameters' message it keeps the main screen
open, but there are no names in the list.   The message is 'No one
is selected in the filter list, please select someone or modify the
filter list'. The 'Current Filter' is set to 'No extra
filtering'.  I know there must be some small setting or maybe a missing file?
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[LegacyUG] FamilySearch Error

[Mike Fry]

Been getting a lot of these messages when trying to merge individuals on
FamilySearch FamilyTree

Error merging individuals: Error number 400: HTTP/1.1 400 Bad Request
This error can occur if the individuals are related or are different genders

Message is totally useless! As far as I can see, the message is appearing
because of a timeout. The merge has actually taken place (as evidenced by a
later attempt) but the results are not getting back to the program quick enough.

I'd send this to the other place but that's been so quiet as to be useless as 
well.

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Re: [LegacyUG] FamilySearch Error

[Mike Fry]

On 2013/12/01 10:36, Mike Fry wrote:
 Been getting a lot of these messages when trying to merge individuals on
 FamilySearch FamilyTree

 Error merging individuals: Error number 400: HTTP/1.1 400 Bad Request
 This error can occur if the individuals are related or are different genders

 Message is totally useless! As far as I can see, the message is appearing
 because of a timeout. The merge has actually taken place (as evidenced by a
 later attempt) but the results are not getting back to the program quick 
 enough.

 I'd send this to the other place but that's been so quiet as to be useless as 
 well.


PS. Where's the help for Legacy FamilySearch?

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[LegacyUG] FamilySearch Heart Icon

[Florence B]

When I open Legacy FamilySearch from Legacy Family Tree software, many of
the names in the My Legacy People List have a heart icon attached to the
name. What does this mean?
FlorenceB



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Re: [LegacyUG] FamilySearch Heart Icon

[R G Strong-genes]

it means they are marked as living

From: Florence B
Sent: Monday, August 26, 2013 2:58 AM
To: LegacyUserGroup@LegacyUsers.com
Subject: [LegacyUG] FamilySearch Heart Icon

When I open Legacy FamilySearch from Legacy Family Tree software, many of the 
names in the My Legacy People List have a heart icon attached to the name. What 
does this mean?
FlorenceB


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Re: [LegacyUG] FamilySearch Heart Icon

[Brian/Support]

It means they are living. I see that is missing from the Legend

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On 26 August 2013 02:58, Florence B chesco...@gmail.com wrote:
 When I open Legacy FamilySearch from Legacy Family Tree software, many of
 the names in the My Legacy People List have a heart icon attached to the
 name. What does this mean?
 FlorenceB



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[LegacyUG] FamilySearch Problem

[Mike Fry]

Downloaded and installed the latest edition of Legacy and have immediately
tripped over a problem in the FamilySearch interface.

I have individuals for whom no records exist within FamilySearch. The program
correctly identifies that there are no matches for these individuals. When I try
to add the Legacy individual to FamilySearch, nothing happens. The individual
does not get added. This does not happen with all such individuals. Some get
added and some don't.

I see the same thing happening in a case where there are possible matches, none
of whom match my individual. I still can't add the new individual to 
FamilySearch.

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RE: [LegacyUG] FamilySearch Problem

[Paul Gray]

Mike,

I am actually surprised that you can add any individuals at all. Family Search 
'deactivated' the old interface API to newFamilySearch on June 30, and that's 
the API that Legacy is still using to the best of my knowledge. (I think the 
API still 'works' in the sense that you can view, and maybe even download, data 
but I don't think it's possible to upload anything.)

Family Search has moved on to Family Tree, replacing newFamilySearch. Legacy 
announced mid-June that they had been certified to use the new interface, and 
that there would be an update by the end of June. We are still waiting.

Paul Gray


-Original Message-
From: Mike Fry [mailto:emjay...@gmail.com]
Sent: August-15-13 4:41 AM
To: LegacyUserGroup@LegacyUsers.com
Subject: [LegacyUG] FamilySearch Problem

Downloaded and installed the latest edition of Legacy and have immediately 
tripped over a problem in the FamilySearch interface.

I have individuals for whom no records exist within FamilySearch. The program 
correctly identifies that there are no matches for these individuals. When I 
try to add the Legacy individual to FamilySearch, nothing happens. The 
individual does not get added. This does not happen with all such individuals. 
Some get added and some don't.

I see the same thing happening in a case where there are possible matches, none 
of whom match my individual. I still can't add the new individual to 
FamilySearch.

--
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Mike Fry
Johannesburg (g)



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Re: [LegacyUG] FamilySearch Problem

[Jenny M Benson]

On 15/08/2013 14:40, Paul Gray wrote:
 I am actually surprised that you can add any individuals at all. Family 
 Search 'deactivated' the old interface API to newFamilySearch on June 30, and 
 that's the API that Legacy is still using to the best of my knowledge. (I 
 think the API still 'works' in the sense that you can view, and maybe even 
 download, data but I don't think it's possible to upload anything.)

 Family Search has moved on to Family Tree, replacing newFamilySearch. Legacy 
 announced mid-June that they had been certified to use the new interface, and 
 that there would be an update by the end of June. We are still waiting.

mode=smugI'm not still waiting!/smug

Geoff mentioned in his Webinar last night that a new update had just
been released and I have downloaded it and used the new FS/FamilyTree
interface.

Latest version is 7.5.0.267, built 13 August.

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Re: [LegacyUG] FamilySearch Problem

[Bernd Hornung]

Jenny, very interesting.  I have only found one site that has the new
build for download and it is not a Legacy site.

Support - where is it and how do we get it?   RM is advertising on my
Facebook that they are the only FamilyTree certified program.

Bernie


On 15/08/2013 8:06 AM, Jenny M Benson wrote:
 On 15/08/2013 14:40, Paul Gray wrote:
 I am actually surprised that you can add any individuals at all. Family 
 Search 'deactivated' the old interface API to newFamilySearch on June 30, 
 and that's the API that Legacy is still using to the best of my knowledge. 
 (I think the API still 'works' in the sense that you can view, and maybe 
 even download, data but I don't think it's possible to upload anything.)

 Family Search has moved on to Family Tree, replacing newFamilySearch. Legacy 
 announced mid-June that they had been certified to use the new interface, 
 and that there would be an update by the end of June. We are still waiting.
 mode=smugI'm not still waiting!/smug

 Geoff mentioned in his Webinar last night that a new update had just
 been released and I have downloaded it and used the new FS/FamilyTree
 interface.

 Latest version is 7.5.0.267, built 13 August.


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Re: [LegacyUG] FamilySearch Problem

[Ronald Bernier]

All you have to do is open Legacy software, go to homepage, and check for 
update.  You will download the latest version.

Ron Bernier
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On Aug 15, 2013, at 10:44 AM, Bernd Hornung ber@telus.net wrote:

 Jenny, very interesting.  I have only found one site that has the new
 build for download and it is not a Legacy site.

 Support - where is it and how do we get it?   RM is advertising on my
 Facebook that they are the only FamilyTree certified program.

 Bernie



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Re: [LegacyUG] FamilySearch Problem

[Brian/Support]

Check your Legacy Home Tab in Legacy. The availability of an update is
advertised there and, if you have the deluxe version, you can update
directly from the Legacy Home Tab. Standard Edition users have to go to
our web page to download the update.

Brian
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On 15/08/2013 10:44 AM, Bernd Hornung wrote:
 Jenny, very interesting.  I have only found one site that has the new
 build for download and it is not a Legacy site.

 Support - where is it and how do we get it?   RM is advertising on my
 Facebook that they are the only FamilyTree certified program.

 Bernie



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RE: [LegacyUG] FamilySearch Problem

[David Abernathy]

And your database will be converted a new format and will not be usable in any 
earlier builds of 7.5.

Thanks,
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Geoff mentioned in his Webinar last night that a new update had just been 
released and I have downloaded it and used the new FS/FamilyTree interface.

Latest version is 7.5.0.267, built 13 August.

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Re: [LegacyUG] FamilySearch Problem

[Gene Young]

I just downloaded and installed the latest update.  Curiously it does not 
appear on the Legacy Home tab under Updates as it usually would, but if you 
click on the word Updates it will take you to the download.



On 8/15/2013 10:44 AM, Bernd Hornung wrote:
 Jenny, very interesting.  I have only found one site that has the new
 build for download and it is not a Legacy site.

 Support - where is it and how do we get it?   RM is advertising on my
 Facebook that they are the only FamilyTree certified program.

 Bernie


 On 15/08/2013 8:06 AM, Jenny M Benson wrote:
 On 15/08/2013 14:40, Paul Gray wrote:
 I am actually surprised that you can add any individuals at all. Family 
 Search 'deactivated' the old interface API to newFamilySearch on June 30, 
 and that's the API that Legacy is still using to the best of my knowledge. 
 (I think the API still 'works' in the sense that you can view, and maybe 
 even download, data but I don't think it's possible to upload anything.)

 Family Search has moved on to Family Tree, replacing newFamilySearch. 
 Legacy announced mid-June that they had been certified to use the new 
 interface, and that there would be an update by the end of June. We are 
 still waiting.
 mode=smugI'm not still waiting!/smug

 Geoff mentioned in his Webinar last night that a new update had just
 been released and I have downloaded it and used the new FS/FamilyTree
 interface.

 Latest version is 7.5.0.267, built 13 August.




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Re: [LegacyUG] FamilySearch Problem

[Bernd Hornung]

Thanks everyone who answered.  I found it and now I know my day is
planned out discovering various changes in the FamilyTree association.
I presume this is the only real change in the program.

Bernie


On 15/08/2013 8:50 AM, Brian/Support wrote:
 Check your Legacy Home Tab in Legacy. The availability of an update is
 advertised there and, if you have the deluxe version, you can update
 directly from the Legacy Home Tab. Standard Edition users have to go to
 our web page to download the update.

 Brian
 Customer Support
 Millennia Corporation
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 http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com

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Re: [LegacyUG] FamilySearch Problem

[Sherry/Support]

A SourceWriter template was added for the just-released 1921 Canadian
Census and there have been some other tweaks to Source Writer.

Next update will include the Census List search for the 1921 census.


Sincerely,
Sherry
Technical Support
Legacy Family Tree


On Thu, Aug 15, 2013 at 8:26 AM, Bernd Hornung ber@telus.net wrote:
 Thanks everyone who answered.  I found it and now I know my day is
 planned out discovering various changes in the FamilyTree association.
 I presume this is the only real change in the program.

 Bernie




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Re: [LegacyUG] FamilySearch Problem

[Jenny M Benson]

On 15/08/2013 15:53, David Abernathy wrote:
 And your database will be converted a new format and will not be usable in 
 any earlier builds of 7.5.

To be fair, before you open your family file you are warned of that and
asked if you wish to proceed.

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Re: [LegacyUG] FamilySearch Problem

[Sherry/Support]

Two comments - Dave, that's true that you can't open the Family File
in an earlier build or version once it's been converted, but if you
really need to, you *can* create a gedcom in the most recent build and
import it into the earlier one.

We haven't seen any problems with this update conversion, however it's
always wise to make a backup before updating Legacy.  In Legacy v8,
you'll be given some very clear cut options to select when a
conversion is necessary. I'd recommend that you all take the few
seconds to do the backup!


Sincerely,
Sherry
Technical Support
Legacy Family Tree


On Thu, Aug 15, 2013 at 8:26 AM, Jenny M Benson ge...@cedarbank.me.uk wrote:
 On 15/08/2013 15:53, David Abernathy wrote:
 And your database will be converted a new format and will not be usable in 
 any earlier builds of 7.5.

 To be fair, before you open your family file you are warned of that and
 asked if you wish to proceed.

 --
 Jenny M Benson



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RE: [LegacyUG] FamilySearch Problem

[David Abernathy]

Thanks for the heads up.

Thanks,
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-Original Message-
From: Sherry/Support [mailto:she...@legacyfamilytree.com]
Sent: Thursday, August 15, 2013 9:01 AM
To: LegacyUserGroup@LegacyUsers.com
Subject: Re: [LegacyUG] FamilySearch Problem

Two comments - Dave, that's true that you can't open the Family File in an 
earlier build or version once it's been converted, but if you really need to, 
you *can* create a gedcom in the most recent build and import it into the 
earlier one.

We haven't seen any problems with this update conversion, however it's always 
wise to make a backup before updating Legacy.  In Legacy v8, you'll be given 
some very clear cut options to select when a conversion is necessary. I'd 
recommend that you all take the few seconds to do the backup!


Sincerely,
Sherry
Technical Support
Legacy Family Tree


On Thu, Aug 15, 2013 at 8:26 AM, Jenny M Benson ge...@cedarbank.me.uk wrote:
 On 15/08/2013 15:53, David Abernathy wrote:
 And your database will be converted a new format and will not be usable in 
 any earlier builds of 7.5.

 To be fair, before you open your family file you are warned of that
 and asked if you wish to proceed.

 --
 Jenny M Benson



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RE: [LegacyUG] FamilySearch Problem

[Sandy Inklebarger]

I have the deluxe Legacy  when I checked my home page it stated You have the 
latest build) but since it was a lower # that the 7.5.0.267 I clicked on the 
Updates anyway  it did update me to the 7.5.0.267 thanks for letting us know 
that there was a new update.


Thank you, Sandy Inklebarger


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And your database will be converted a new format and will not be usable in any 
earlier builds of 7.5.

Thanks,
David C Abernathy
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Latest version is 7.5.0.267, built 13 August.

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Re: [LegacyUG] FamilySearch Interface

[JLB]

I've been wondering the same thing. I've just opened FamilySearch inside
Legacy and I can go to nFS as before. I thought there was a way to go
from there to Family Tree but I guess not. It's the same login but not a
connected location yet. I'm guessing when it's time Legacy will make the
change to link up to Family Tree directly.

In the meantime, if I use Legacy to upload more information to nFS will
it also show up in Family Tree? Everything I put up to nFS last year is
also on FamilyTree. Just not sure how that would work right now.
---
JL Beeken
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http://www.jgen.ws/jlog/

On 7/13/2012 10:20 PM, Kirsten Bowman wrote:
 I’ve been reading Helps and Tutorials at FamilySearch.org and *believe*
 I understand that trees now at new.FamilySearch are going to be moved to
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 current Legacy interface? Does anyone know more about this change?
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RE: [LegacyUG] FamilySearch Interface

[Lee Bruch]

For these questions re interface of Legacy with Family Search and nFS:
I'd suggest you question and discuss on the LegacyFS (Legacy Family Search) 
user group.
Discussions there center of Legacy as it related to Family Search and nFS and 
people there are very knowledgeable.
You can find more about that user group at 
http://www.legacyfamilytree.com/legacylists.asp


-Original Message-
From: JLB [mailto:j...@jgen.ws]
Sent: Friday, July 13, 2012 11:05 PM
To: LegacyUserGroup@LegacyUsers.com
Subject: Re: [LegacyUG] FamilySearch Interface

I've been wondering the same thing. I've just opened FamilySearch inside Legacy 
and I can go to nFS as before. I thought there was a way to go from there to 
Family Tree but I guess not. It's the same login but not a connected location 
yet. I'm guessing when it's time Legacy will make the change to link up to 
Family Tree directly.

In the meantime, if I use Legacy to upload more information to nFS will it also 
show up in Family Tree? Everything I put up to nFS last year is also on 
FamilyTree. Just not sure how that would work right now.
---
JL Beeken
JLog - simple computer technology for genealogists http://www.jgen.ws/jlog/

On 7/13/2012 10:20 PM, Kirsten Bowman wrote:
 I’ve been reading Helps and Tutorials at FamilySearch.org and
 *believe* I understand that trees now at new.FamilySearch are going to
 be moved to something called Family Tree with significantly improved
 tools/capabilities. Is this correct and, if so, how will it affect the
 current Legacy interface? Does anyone know more about this change?
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Re: [LegacyUG] FamilySearch Interface

[Maureen Lake]

I've been on Family Tree for nearly a year now in beta.  Yes, changes made in 
nFS will also appear in FT.  The only thing I have heard conflicting stories 
about is whether your nFS sources will transfer.  Anyone looking to check out 
FT can contact me off-list and we'll see what we can do.

I'm looking forward myself to see what Legacy does with FT.  I would love to 
see some kind of Source Box integration (hint hint).

Maureen

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On Jul 13, 2012, at 11:05 PM, JLB j...@jgen.ws wrote:

 I've been wondering the same thing. I've just opened FamilySearch inside
 Legacy and I can go to nFS as before. I thought there was a way to go
 from there to Family Tree but I guess not. It's the same login but not a
 connected location yet. I'm guessing when it's time Legacy will make the
 change to link up to Family Tree directly.

 In the meantime, if I use Legacy to upload more information to nFS will
 it also show up in Family Tree? Everything I put up to nFS last year is
 also on FamilyTree. Just not sure how that would work right now.
 ---
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 http://www.jgen.ws/jlog/

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 I understand that trees now at new.FamilySearch are going to be moved to
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 current Legacy interface? Does anyone know more about this change?
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Re: [LegacyUG] FamilySearch Interface

[Kirsten Bowman]

JL:

What I'm understanding at this point is that Family Tree and
new.FamilySearch are just different views of the same database but they each
have slightly different capabilities.  I log on to new.FamilySearch directly
or through Legacy but go to Family Tree via FamilySearch.org.  I believe
you're probably correct in guessing that Legacy will switch over to Family
Tree at some point.  Maybe that's what version 8 is about?

Kirsten

-Original Message-
From: JLB
Sent: Friday, July 13, 2012 11:05 PM
To: LegacyUserGroup@LegacyUsers.com
Subject: Re: [LegacyUG] FamilySearch Interface

I've been wondering the same thing. I've just opened FamilySearch inside
Legacy and I can go to nFS as before. I thought there was a way to go
from there to Family Tree but I guess not. It's the same login but not a
connected location yet. I'm guessing when it's time Legacy will make the
change to link up to Family Tree directly.

In the meantime, if I use Legacy to upload more information to nFS will
it also show up in Family Tree? Everything I put up to nFS last year is
also on FamilyTree. Just not sure how that would work right now.
---
JL Beeken
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http://www.jgen.ws/jlog/

On 7/13/2012 10:20 PM, Kirsten Bowman wrote:
 I’ve been reading Helps and Tutorials at FamilySearch.org and *believe*
 I understand that trees now at new.FamilySearch are going to be moved to
 something called Family Tree with significantly improved
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[LegacyUG] FamilySearch Interface

[Kirsten Bowman]

I’ve been reading Helps and Tutorials at FamilySearch.org and *believe* I 
understand that trees now at new.FamilySearch are going to be moved to 
something called Family Tree with significantly improved tools/capabilities.  
Is this correct and, if so, how will it affect the current Legacy interface?  
Does anyone know more about this change?

Kirsten


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Re: [LegacyUG] FamilySearch (and Legacy file organization)

[Connie Sheets]

Rich's information, below, is perhaps the most accurate in this thread. 

Although I've been registered for a long time, and help with indexing, I'm not 
a Church member so I do not yet have access to the family trees (although some 
non-LDS who have received invitations do have access).  The family trees is the 
only thing I don't have access to.  I have incredible FREE access to all kinds 
of databases and images of original records.

Anyone who is not LDS and isn't using Family Search Historical Records is 
missing out on a treasure trove of original source material; better than 
Ancestry.com already, IMO, at least for the geographic areas where I research.

I'm guessing though that we're off topic.  To answer the original question in 
this thread, I would create and use only one database.  You really don't need 
multiple databases in Legacy, IMO, unless you want to keep someone else's 
gedcom in a separate database.

Connie

--- On Tue, 8/2/11, 1eagledad 1eagle...@bellsouth.net wrote:
The website: http://new.familysearch.org contains the Family Tree which is only 
open to the LDS membership and a few others that have received an invitation. 
It will soon be open to the general public.
 
The website:  https://www.familysearch.org/ is free and open to anyone, 
anywhere, anytime.  It contains all of the records, images, indexes, the 
FamilySearch Wiki, the training aids, the library catalog and a whole lot more.
 
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Re: [LegacyUG] FamilySearch (and Legacy file organization)

[Robert E. Carneal]

The only time I maintain separate databases is when the main subject
is different. I keep human (i.e., my family) in one database,
cemeteries I have transcribed in another database. Ie., Kentucky
cemeteries I keep under KyCem, Indiana cemeteries I keep in InCem,
Virginia Cemeteries I keep in VaCem, and so on.

If I transcribe a book, I will put that into it's own file, unless,
the book is related to my family.

Kinda off topic, but that is how I do it.

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RE: [LegacyUG] FamilySearch website: One of the best genealogical resources

[Genealogy]

I call it blowing your own trumpet!

G





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Sent: Saturday, February 26, 2011 3:35 PM
To: LegacyUserGroup@LegacyUsers.com
Subject: [LegacyUG] FamilySearch website: One of the best genealogical resources



Tad bit OT Stats



http://www.ldschurchnews.com/articles/60533/FamilySearch-website-One-of-the-best-genealogical-resources.html



Tiny Url

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Re: [LegacyUG] FamilySearch website: One of the best genealogical resources

[Tim Rosenlof]

Blowing no ones trumpet. Just thought it to be of interest of the stats.
I guess I should have the link out and just gave the stats. As usual,
when I make a post ..

Tim R.

On 2/26/2011 10:21 AM, Genealogy wrote:
 I call it blowing your own trumpet!

 G

 -Original Message-
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 Sent: Saturday, February 26, 2011 3:35 PM
 To: LegacyUserGroup@LegacyUsers.com
 Subject: [LegacyUG] FamilySearch website: One of the best genealogical
 resources

 Tad bit OT Stats

 http://www.ldschurchnews.com/articles/60533/FamilySearch-website-One-of-the-best-genealogical-resources.html


 Tiny Url

 http://tinyurl.com/4goyo9m

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RE: [LegacyUG] FamilySearch website: One of the best genealogical resources

[Genealogy]

Apologies, this should have been a forward.
G

-Original Message-
From: Tim Rosenlof [mailto:spa...@xmission.com]
Sent: Saturday, February 26, 2011 6:10 PM
To: LegacyUserGroup@LegacyUsers.com
Subject: Re: [LegacyUG] FamilySearch website: One of the best genealogical 
resources

Blowing no ones trumpet. Just thought it to be of interest of the stats.
I guess I should have the link out and just gave the stats. As usual,
when I make a post ..

Tim R.

On 2/26/2011 10:21 AM, Genealogy wrote:
 I call it blowing your own trumpet!

 G

 -Original Message-
 From: Tim Rosenlof [mailto:spa...@xmission.com]
 Sent: Saturday, February 26, 2011 3:35 PM
 To: LegacyUserGroup@LegacyUsers.com
 Subject: [LegacyUG] FamilySearch website: One of the best genealogical
 resources

 Tad bit OT Stats

 http://www.ldschurchnews.com/articles/60533/FamilySearch-website-One-of-the-best-genealogical-resources.html


 Tiny Url

 http://tinyurl.com/4goyo9m

 Tim R.



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[LegacyUG] FamilySearch

[Barbara Lewis]

Would someone who has this Familysearch (old beta search) site figured out
please contact me off list...
Barbara




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Re: [LegacyUG] FamilySearch

[Ron Ferguson]

Michael,

No, that is incorrect. Only yesterday Geoff, yet again, stated that the
increased functionality which Family Search will make available to the
general public, ie. non-LDS members, will be available in due course. That
is when Family Search are satisfied that it is properly debugged etc.. The
current phase should be regarded as a Beta test. At that time some, but not
the confidential LDS Members section, will be available in the Legacy
Program.

At the present time the facility is only of use to LDS members. And, know it
is not yet known when the general section will be availbale. Their IGI is
currently available through Legacy.

Ron Ferguson
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Michael Berry wrote:
 So if you are not an LDS member then all this new FamilySearch
 functionality that is now in Legacy is useless?  This new stuff is for
 LDS only?

 On 3/15/2010 9:49 PM, Connie Sheets wrote:
 Jane Fabiano-Turner wrote:


 What is the difference between this
 and http://pilot.familysearch.org?

 I'm not sure what you mean by this, but the link you posted
 (Family Search Pilot, or sometimes called Family Search Labs)
 involves actual records (e.g., indexes and digital images of
 original records like Ohio Death Certificates and Argentina census
 records, both of which I've had the need to use, believe it or not).
 In other words, it is #5 on Heather Stovold's explanation earlier
 today of the various FamilySearch collections.  You do not have to
 be an LDS member to use this site.

 The only portion of FamilySearch one needs to be an LDS member to
 use is NewFamilySearch (#4 on Heather's list).  Legacy 7.4 has been
 built to be compliant with NewFamilySearch (along with correcting
 things that are important to all of us, not just LDS members).

 If for some reason you did not receive Heather's message,you can
 read it in the archives at:

 http://www.mail-archive.com/legacyusergroup@legacyusers.com/msg03305.html

 Connie
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Re: [LegacyUG] FamilySearch

[Mike Fry]

On 2010/03/16 12:22, Michael Berry wrote:

 So if you are not an LDS member then all this new FamilySearch
 functionality that is now in Legacy is useless?  This new stuff is for
 LDS only?

That's what Millennia have been saying all along.

If Legacy is to be used by LDS members for Temple work, than it has to
be certified. You can't expect Millennia to wait until the LDS make the
new stuff public before they start this process, so the development has
gone hand in hand with the LDS beta testing of their new site.

Eventually - big word that one! - the LDS will make their
new-and-improved FamilySearch site available to everyone, at which time,
Legacy will work 'out of the box'.

I'm not a member of the LDS and I don't expect to make a lot of use of
their site, so the program changes don't really affect me.

--
Regards,
Mike Fry
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Re: [LegacyUG] FamilySearch

[Michael Berry]

Ok, I have a yes and a no.  Once 7.5 comes out I assume it will be
certified for LDS work and it will be of great benefit for LDS users.  I
can see how this will be of great use to LDS members but, will it do
anything for the rest of us?  And is there any time estimate or is it
simply that it will happen when it happens?  I am just curious.


On 3/16/2010 7:12 AM, Mike Fry wrote:
 On 2010/03/16 12:22, Michael Berry wrote:


 So if you are not an LDS member then all this new FamilySearch
 functionality that is now in Legacy is useless?  This new stuff is for
 LDS only?

 That's what Millennia have been saying all along.

 If Legacy is to be used by LDS members for Temple work, than it has to
 be certified. You can't expect Millennia to wait until the LDS make the
 new stuff public before they start this process, so the development has
 gone hand in hand with the LDS beta testing of their new site.

 Eventually - big word that one! - the LDS will make their
 new-and-improved FamilySearch site available to everyone, at which time,
 Legacy will work 'out of the box'.

 I'm not a member of the LDS and I don't expect to make a lot of use of
 their site, so the program changes don't really affect me.

 --
 Regards,
 Mike Fry
 Johannesburg



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Re: [LegacyUG] FamilySearch

[Ron Ferguson]

Michael,

Both answers are correct!! At present Mike is right, the function is only of
benefit for LDS members, but in future, when FS opens the general
database,  included in Legacy is the facility allowing access to all Legacy
users. There is now time schedule at present.

Ron Ferguson

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Michael Berry wrote:
 Ok, I have a yes and a no.  Once 7.5 comes out I assume it will be
 certified for LDS work and it will be of great benefit for LDS users.
 I can see how this will be of great use to LDS members but, will it do
 anything for the rest of us?  And is there any time estimate or is it
 simply that it will happen when it happens?  I am just curious.


 On 3/16/2010 7:12 AM, Mike Fry wrote:
 On 2010/03/16 12:22, Michael Berry wrote:


 So if you are not an LDS member then all this new FamilySearch
 functionality that is now in Legacy is useless?  This new stuff is
 for LDS only?

 That's what Millennia have been saying all along.

 If Legacy is to be used by LDS members for Temple work, than it has
 to be certified. You can't expect Millennia to wait until the LDS
 make the new stuff public before they start this process, so the
 development has gone hand in hand with the LDS beta testing of their
 new site.

 Eventually - big word that one! - the LDS will make their
 new-and-improved FamilySearch site available to everyone, at which
 time, Legacy will work 'out of the box'.

 I'm not a member of the LDS and I don't expect to make a lot of use
 of their site, so the program changes don't really affect me.

 --
 Regards,
 Mike Fry
 Johannesburg




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Re: [LegacyUG] FamilySearch

[Rick Merrill]

 So if you are not an LDS member then all this new FamilySearch
 functionality that is now in Legacy is useless?  This new stuff is for
 LDS only?

Yes, that is true for right now.  The new stuff with Legacy FamilySearch is
only useful to the members of the LDS Church.  They need this feature to
interact with the new FamilySearch data base that is currently only
available to members of the church.  If Legacy does not provide this
interface the those customers will be have to leave Legacy for another
genealogical software that does.

But there are many great resources available to everyone right now.

Such as the regular FamilySearch site  http://www.familysearch.org that give
you access to many great records and even online tutorials on how to do
research around the word.

Or the http://labs.familysearch.org/  website where you can find access to
the images and indexes that are being done by volunteers around the world.
The LDS church has over 24 million rolls of microfilm with information from
around the world.  You can look up in the catalogue and have your local
Family History Library order them for you at a minimal charge.  They are
currently digitizing all of these rolls of file and then indexing them at a
rate of around 1 million names a day.  This is then being put online for
free though this website.

IN THE FUTURE the new FamilySearch website will be open to everyone.  At
which time you will be able to access it through the Legacy FamilySearch.

SO WHAT YOU ASK.  On Ancestry or Roots web and other site you upload you
family tree for other so see.  So does you brother, your Great Aunt, and
your Cousin twice removed.  And a lot of the data is identical and some of
the work may be your own research repeated a few times.  But yet they are
STILL SEPARATE FAMILY TREES.  What the new FamilySearch is doing is merging
all the trees and information that it has into ONE FAMILY TREE with all
those people linked together.  This is a collaborative effort.  So if
someone has something different you can contact each other and get the real
facts correct.  When it is finished I think you will find it a great asset
to your own research.

But currently there are a few difficulties.  One it currently takes some 650
serves to run the website.  Some 350 just to do the searching.  The backup
takes some 21 Tera Bits of hard drive.  And you thought your data base was
large.  The family tree currently contains some 1.4 BILLION names.  That
will be helpful in anyone's research.  Another problem.  Currently there is
only a place for notes.  No Sourcing.  But I am sure it will be available
someday and maybe even linking images such as census images or the SSDI.
But that really will take a lot of computing power.

So for EVERONE there is something usefull from the regular FamilySearch and
in the FUTURE more great stuff  in the new FamilySearch.

Rick Merrill




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Re: [LegacyUG] FamilySearch

[Heather Stovold]

Just wanted to add a bit more information on the LDS records.

1. Ancestral File - as noted below - submitted by researchers - a repository
of family trees.  Some are very good, some are totally horrible.

2. IGI - as noted below - from 2 sources - submitted by researchers, and
extracted from records
3. Pedegree Resource File - replaced the Ancestral File (had a few more
features) - and has same limitations on accuracy.

4. New Family Search - THIS IS A BETA. - currently available only to LDS
members (and that has been slowly rolled out to LDS members 1 geographic
region at a time to limit the number of people and the number of problems.)
I believe the hope is for it to become a large linked tree with
collaboration between people, yet people being able to control the
information they have submitted.  It is very ambitious, as some of the
ancestral people entered in it will have hundreds or thousands of
descendants working on the information for them.  Information that is in it
comes from various sources - including
a. - Each of the 3 sources of records listed above
b. - LDS Church membership records - records/information of living members
is only available to that person (and maybe their very immediate family
members?)  - deceased members have the records available to others.
c. - Information submitted/edted currently by people - This would be where
the Legacy linkup would come in... or other genealogy software - or people
can enter stuff directly.  Again - take with a grain of salt.  Good thing is
that source information is now able to be submitted, so you can check things
easier.
d. - other???

5 - Family Search - PILOT - This includes the Indexing project, where the
millions (billions?) of microfilmed actual records stored by the LDS church
from various government and (other) church records are being computerized.
I always look forward to seeing more here!!!
As said below (I copied it)
a.  Transcriptions of actual parish, govt, records - often with a link
to the image of the actual record.  Again, the reliability is no different
than that of any other transcribed source.
b.  Images scanned from the microfilmed records not yet transcribed or
indexed.  These images are the exact same thing you would see if you went to
a church and viewed the actual parish registers.  Or to the state or county
office and viewed the actual record.

Note that on the pilot site, there are also some other little projects that
may or may not be developed furthur.  This is available to anyone I
think

6. - The millions (billions) of microfilmed actual records - available to be
sent to various Family History Libraries worldwide (for basically shipping
costs) for you to view.


On Sat, Mar 13, 2010 at 9:15 PM, clark1...@aol.com wrote:

  Please be careful about lumping all LDS records into the same
 category.  There are actually several different categories, and the
 reliability varies.  Many are indeed sourced very accurately.

 1.  Ancestral File:  Yes, these are records submitted by researchers,
 generally without sources and so must be taken as possibly correct or
 possibly incorrect - but valid as suggestions for where to look for other
 records.

 2.  IGI:  Some are submitted by researchers.  Others are records extracted
 from actual parish records, government records, etc.  The batch number and
 the identified source film will identify those records.  Those are as
 reliable as any other set of transcribed records- whether it be on Ancestry,
 FreeBMD, FreeREG, etc.  The short coming of the extracted records is that
 not all the available information is transcribed.  But seeking the
 identified source will provide the extra info.

 3.  Pedigree Resource File:  Similar to (1) above.

 4.  Family Search pilot site:  This combines two sets of records.
 a.  Transcriptions of actual parish, govt, records - often with a link
 to the image of the actual record.  Again, the reliability is no different
 than that of any other transcribed source.
 b.  Images scanned from the microfilmed records not yet transcribed or
 indexed.  These images are the exact same thing you would see if you went to
 a church and viewed the actual parish registers.  Or to the state or county
 office and viewed the actual record.





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Re: [LegacyUG] FamilySearch

[Tim Rosenlof]

Michael,

The new.FamilySearch has been in beta for a few years. There are all
sorts of rumors when it will be available. I am on the test team and  it
is on .99 which means it is getting closer for release (Closer is
relative). Having said that, it will probably (My assumption) only be
available to members of the Church of Jesus Christ of Latter Day Saints.
To be released to the general public, is up to the General Authorities
of the Church. I don't think even the software developers know when the
project will be done, for it is constantly evolving. So my guess is
*shrug* :-)

Regards,
Tim Rosenlof

Michael Berry wrote:
 Is there any estimate when Family Search will be made available to non
 LDS members?





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RE: [LegacyUG] FamilySearch

[Jane Fabiano-Turner]

What is the difference between this and http://pilot.familysearch.org?

Jane

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Re: [LegacyUG] FamilySearch

[GeoSci]

AS soon as LDS releases it to the public - you will be all set.  Until
then - it does nothing.
Keith
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On Sat, Mar 13, 2010 at 8:43 AM, glove love-fam...@blueyonder.co.uk wrote:
 I still don't get this FamilySearch thing - is it possible to do anything
 with it or is it all reserved for LDS members? The latest upgrade has added
 to my confusion and with all the earlier discussion around getting ready and
 now some new 'tools' I don't see that anything is actually useable. Am I
 missing something?
 Graham Love





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RE: [LegacyUG] FamilySearch

[Kath]

The main issue I have with LDS records are that they aren't verified or
sourced. Any LDS member can put information up that is just based on family
talk. Nevertheless it is a good place to start and a source if you have
nothing else.
Happy searching
Kathy

-Original Message-
From: Charles Apple [mailto:apple1...@embarqmail.com]
Sent: Sunday, 14 March 2010 1:13 PM
To: LegacyUserGroup@LegacyUsers.com
Subject: RE: [LegacyUG] FamilySearch

Graham,

I am not an LDS member, therefore, I cannot speak for those that are,
however, I have found FamilySearch.org to be an excellent resource. I have
found clues that, after further research and verification, actually helped
to break through some brick walls. FamilySearch Labs also has some
interesting tools under development, however, they are at a point where they
can be used.

Personally, I view FamilySearch.org just like any other depository i.e.
Ancestry.com (hope I don't get into trouble for using that word). The
information that is available is only as good as the researcher that
provided the information, however, it is an excellent source for leads, etc.

Here are a couple of links, if you don't have them;
http://labs.familysearch.org These are various Lab tools under development.
http://www.familysearch.org I do have an account with this one (not
new.familysearch.org)

Hope this helps a little,

Charles

-Original Message-
On Sat, Mar 13, 2010 at 8:43 AM, glove love-fam...@blueyonder.co.uk wrote:
I still don't get this FamilySearch thing - is it possible to do
anything with it or is it all reserved for LDS members? The latest
upgrade has added to my confusion and with all the earlier discussion
around getting ready and now some new 'tools' I don't see that
anything is actually useable. Am I missing something?

Graham Love


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RE: [LegacyUG] FamilySearch

[Charles Apple]

Kath,

What you say is very true, and an excellent Caveat for any careful
researcher. Most repositories that I have seen lack in documentation that is
carefully verified and sourced, and many are outright plagerized. I think
the point is that like any other depository they are a source of leads and
clues, that need further research, verification, and accurate source
citations.

Charles

-Original Message-
From: Kath [mailto:terrigal2...@gmail.com]
Sent: Saturday, March 13, 2010 9:47 PM
To: LegacyUserGroup@LegacyUsers.com
Subject: RE: [LegacyUG] FamilySearch

The main issue I have with LDS records are that they aren't verified or
sourced. Any LDS member can put information up that is just based on family
talk. Nevertheless it is a good place to start and a source if you have
nothing else.
Happy searching
Kathy

-Original Message-
From: Charles Apple [mailto:apple1...@embarqmail.com]
Sent: Sunday, 14 March 2010 1:13 PM
To: LegacyUserGroup@LegacyUsers.com
Subject: RE: [LegacyUG] FamilySearch

Graham,

I am not an LDS member, therefore, I cannot speak for those that are,
however, I have found FamilySearch.org to be an excellent resource. I have
found clues that, after further research and verification, actually helped
to break through some brick walls. FamilySearch Labs also has some
interesting tools under development, however, they are at a point where they
can be used.

Personally, I view FamilySearch.org just like any other depository i.e.
Ancestry.com (hope I don't get into trouble for using that word). The
information that is available is only as good as the researcher that
provided the information, however, it is an excellent source for leads, etc.

Here are a couple of links, if you don't have them;
http://labs.familysearch.org These are various Lab tools under development.
http://www.familysearch.org I do have an account with this one (not
new.familysearch.org)

Hope this helps a little,

Charles

-Original Message-
On Sat, Mar 13, 2010 at 8:43 AM, glove love-fam...@blueyonder.co.uk wrote:
I still don't get this FamilySearch thing - is it possible to do anything
with it or is it all reserved for LDS members? The latest upgrade has added
to my confusion and with all the earlier discussion around getting ready and
now some new 'tools' I don't see that anything is actually useable. Am I
missing something?

Graham Love


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Re: [LegacyUG] FamilySearch

[CLARK1528]

Please be careful about lumping all LDS records into the same  category. 
There are actually several different categories, and the  reliability
varies.  Many are indeed sourced very accurately.

1.  Ancestral File:  Yes, these are records submitted by  researchers,
generally without sources and so must be taken as possibly correct  or possibly
incorrect - but valid as suggestions for where to look for other  records.

2.  IGI:  Some are submitted by researchers.  Others are  records extracted
from actual parish records, government records, etc.  The  batch number and
the identified source film will identify those  records.  Those are as
reliable as any other set of transcribed records-  whether it be on Ancestry,
FreeBMD, FreeREG, etc.  The short coming of the  extracted records is that not
all the available information is  transcribed.  But seeking the identified
source will provide the extra  info.

3.  Pedigree Resource File:  Similar to (1) above.

4.  Family Search pilot site:  This combines two sets of  records.
a.  Transcriptions of actual parish, govt,  records - often with a link
to the image of the actual record.  Again, the  reliability is no different
than that of any other transcribed source.
b.  Images scanned from the microfilmed  records not yet transcribed or
indexed.  These images are the exact same  thing you would see if you went
to a church and viewed the actual parish  registers.  Or to the state or
county office and viewed the actual  record.

Jennifer


In a message dated 3/13/2010 9:04:53 P.M. Central Standard Time,
apple1...@embarqmail.com writes:

Kath,

What you say is very true, and an excellent Caveat for  any careful
researcher. Most repositories that I have seen lack in  documentation that
is
carefully verified and sourced, and many are outright  plagerized. I think
the point is that like any other depository they are a  source of leads and
clues, that need further research, verification, and  accurate source
citations.

Charles

-Original  Message-
From: Kath [mailto:terrigal2...@gmail.com]
Sent: Saturday,  March 13, 2010 9:47 PM
To: LegacyUserGroup@LegacyUsers.com
Subject: RE:  [LegacyUG] FamilySearch

The main issue I have with LDS records are that  they aren't verified or
sourced. Any LDS member can put information up that  is just based on family
talk. Nevertheless it is a good place to start and  a source if you have
nothing else.
Happy  searching
Kathy

-Original Message-
From: Charles Apple  [mailto:apple1...@embarqmail.com]
Sent: Sunday, 14 March 2010 1:13  PM
To: LegacyUserGroup@LegacyUsers.com
Subject: RE: [LegacyUG]  FamilySearch

Graham,

I am not an LDS member, therefore, I cannot  speak for those that are,
however, I have found FamilySearch.org to be an  excellent resource. I have
found clues that, after further research and  verification, actually helped
to break through some brick walls.  FamilySearch Labs also has some
interesting tools under development,  however, they are at a point where
they
can be used.

Personally, I  view FamilySearch.org just like any other depository i.e.
Ancestry.com  (hope I don't get into trouble for using that word). The
information that  is available is only as good as the researcher that
provided the  information, however, it is an excellent source for leads,
etc.

Here  are a couple of links, if you don't have them;
http://labs.familysearch.org  These are various Lab tools under development.
http://www.familysearch.org  I do have an account with this one (not
new.familysearch.org)

Hope  this helps a little,

Charles

-Original Message-
On  Sat, Mar 13, 2010 at 8:43 AM, glove love-fam...@blueyonder.co.uk
wrote:
I still don't get this FamilySearch thing - is it possible to do  anything
with it or is it all reserved for LDS members? The latest upgrade  has added
to my confusion and with all the earlier discussion around  getting ready
and
now some new 'tools' I don't see that anything is  actually useable. Am I
missing something?

Graham  Love


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RE: [LegacyUG] FamilySearch

[Kath]

I was referring to the records in the LDS put in by individuals without any
formal reference.
e.g. My mothers brother is about 7 years younger than her and she was born
in 1915. I'm pretty sure he was born in the same place she was so I enter
his name and date of birth as 1922 and the same place of birth as my mother.
The reality is her parents had moved by then and he was born in a different
location. He isn't really 7 years younger, it's actually 8. Even though he
is always known as John his full name is actually William John.

Cheers
Kathy

-Original Message-
From: Cathy-0 [mailto:chorn0...@optimum.net]
Sent: Sunday, 14 March 2010 2:57 PM
To: LegacyUserGroup@LegacyUsers.com
Subject: Re: [LegacyUG] FamilySearch

Kathy,

While you mentioned below that LDS records aren't verfied, you didn't
mention where you found these unverified records.  Such a blanket
statement sounds to me to be somewhat ambiguous.

Are you referring to the Ancestral File records, or the IGI records, or the
Social Security Death Index records, or the microfilmed records of various
governmental localities around the world, or the recently begun scanning and

indexing of records which also appear on the FamilySearch.org site.  Or
perhaps you are referring to the totally different site called the
New.FamilySearch web site?

So, I would appreciate your clarifying your statement.

Cathy-0


- Original Message -
From: Kath terrigal2...@gmail.com
To: LegacyUserGroup@LegacyUsers.com
Sent: Saturday, March 13, 2010 9:46 PM
Subject: RE: [LegacyUG] FamilySearch


 The main issue I have with LDS records are that they aren't verified or
 sourced. Any LDS member can put information up that is just based on
 family
 talk. Nevertheless it is a good place to start and a source if you have
 nothing else.
 Happy searching
 Kathy

 -Original Message-
 From: Charles Apple [mailto:apple1...@embarqmail.com]
 Sent: Sunday, 14 March 2010 1:13 PM
 To: LegacyUserGroup@LegacyUsers.com
 Subject: RE: [LegacyUG] FamilySearch

 Graham,

 I am not an LDS member, therefore, I cannot speak for those that are,
 however, I have found FamilySearch.org to be an excellent resource. I have
 found clues that, after further research and verification, actually helped
 to break through some brick walls. FamilySearch Labs also has some
 interesting tools under development, however, they are at a point where
 they
 can be used.

 Personally, I view FamilySearch.org just like any other depository i.e.
 Ancestry.com (hope I don't get into trouble for using that word). The
 information that is available is only as good as the researcher that
 provided the information, however, it is an excellent source for leads,
 etc.

 Here are a couple of links, if you don't have them;
 http://labs.familysearch.org These are various Lab tools under
 development.
 http://www.familysearch.org I do have an account with this one (not
 new.familysearch.org)

 Hope this helps a little,

 Charles

 -Original Message-
 On Sat, Mar 13, 2010 at 8:43 AM, glove love-fam...@blueyonder.co.uk
 wrote:
 I still don't get this FamilySearch thing - is it possible to do
 anything with it or is it all reserved for LDS members? The latest
 upgrade has added to my confusion and with all the earlier discussion
 around getting ready and now some new 'tools' I don't see that
 anything is actually useable. Am I missing something?

 Graham Love


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