from:"Jean\-Pierre Chrétien"

LyX Web site

2009-04-28 Thread Jean-Pierre Chrétien


Hello,

I recently begun the translation of the site to French, and I have a 
suggestion: use mdash instead of -- wherever it happens (currently I 
found some in http://www.lyx.org/WhatIsLyX ).


Regards

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Jean-Pierre

Re: LyX Web site

2009-04-29 Thread Jean-Pierre Chrétien


Helge Hafting a écrit :

Jean-Pierre ChrÃ©tien wrote:

Hello,

I recently begun the translation of the site to French, and I have a 
suggestion: use mdash instead of -- wherever it happens (currently I 
found some in http://www.lyx.org/WhatIsLyX ).


When you use -- in LyX, an endash happens in the output, and --- 
turns into emdash. This is why some LyX users use -- now and then.


Sure, I use it myself.
But unless pmwiki provides a similar mechanism, as Jean-Marc suggested,
HTML entities are required in the web site.

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Jean-Pierre

Re: To translators of the web site. SiteTranslation now a bit better

2009-06-23 Thread Jean-Pierre Chrétien


Christian Ridderström a écrit :

Hi,

I've fiddled (more than I expected, guess I'm rusty), and the page

http://www.lyx.org/SiteTranslation

now should show translated pages in _red_ if the corresponding english 
page has been edited more recently. In case the translated page has been 
edited more recently, it's shown in green.


Well done, Christian, thanks.

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Jean-Pierre

Re: Offre d'aide

2009-07-12 Thread Jean-Pierre Chrétien


frederic.steve...@ac-amiens.fr a écrit :

Bonjour,

J'utilise LyX depuis quelques années, par intermittence. 
En retour, je peux vous proposer mes services, 
même si mes compétences ne sont pas bien grandes : 

je ne programme pas, mais je peux traduire, par exemple,
corriger des documents en français (syntaxe, grammaire, typographie, 
vocabulaire).


Si vous pensez que je puisse être d'une quelconque utilité, n'hésitez pas.



Merci pour votre proposition, mais la langue d'usage de lyx-docs est 
l'anglais, il existe la liste lyx-fr spécifique au français:

lyx-fr at lists.lyx.org

So I will forward your mail on lyx-fr and answer there.

Thanks and regards.

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Jean-Pierre

Web site translation: how to use SVN

2009-07-24 Thread Jean-Pierre Chrétien


Hello,

While translating this page in French, these sentences

This is the new development and stable branch. The development will 
progress in branches and the main trunk will stay stable.


were unclear to me.

I suggest

This is the new development and stable branch. The development will 
progress in the main trunk and the stable successive versions can be 
found in branches. The most recent branches/BRANCH_X_X_X directory is 
however still active to provide maintenance releases of the current 
stable version.


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Jean-Pierre

Braille example in French

2009-08-18 Thread Jean-Pierre Chrétien


Hello,

Attached is a tentative Freanch version of the Braille example.

I am not a specialist of Braille, but I feel that Braille support
in LyX for French suffers from the limitations of Braille support in 
LaTeX for foreign languages (the Maj modifier is not the same in English 
Braille and in French Braille e.g.).


In addition
 - active characters in French babel do not work in the Braille 
commands, I tried to add english encaspsulation to avoid LaTeX errors 
without success;

 - the French guillemets (set in Document-Settings-Language) do not work.

About the latter, it seems that this is a recent regression in branch 
w.r.t 1.6.3. I thought first that it was due to the fact that the doc is 
Unicode in LaTeX, but it is true with a fresh article doc. Any ticket 
about this ?



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Jean-Pierre


Braille.lyx
Description: application/lyx

Re: Braille example in French

2009-08-19 Thread Jean-Pierre Chrétien


Uwe Stöhr a écrit :
 Jean-Pierre Chrétien schrieb:
[...]
 The Braille package only supports English. For all language-specific 
characters you have to use the braillebox environment.
 Can you please add a sentence that this is also the case for the 
French Maj modifier?


Attached is an updated version.


 In addition
  - active characters in French babel do not work in the Braille

 Same problem as above, Braille doesn't take care of language-specific 
things and thus also not of babel.


Corrected in the preamble. Btw, why are the greyed notes in Braille 
style ? I loose the guillemets there when I fall back to english babel 
to avoid active chars.



  - the French guillemets (set in Document-Settings-Language) do 
not work.


 Works fine there with today's branch build.

Right, in fact svn up  make is not enough to refresh lyx, I will run 
the full update command in the future.


Regards

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Jean-Pierre



Braille.lyx
Description: application/lyx

[Fwd: Delivery Status Notification (Failure)]

2009-09-29 Thread Jean-Pierre Chrétien


Hello,

po-upda...@lyx.org seems to be down...
Any clue ?

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Jean-Pierre


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Pour : jeanpierre.chret...@free.fr

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French translation of the web site

2009-10-07 Thread Jean-Pierre Chrétien


Hello,

The translation is quite complete and up to date, thanks to Siegfried 
and Alain:

http://www.lyx.org/SiteTranslation#toc5

Is there a way to display the French pages if the browser is 
French-speaking ?


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Jean-Pierre

Re: French translation of the web site

2009-10-08 Thread Jean-Pierre Chrétien


Christian Ridderström a écrit :

On Wed, 7 Oct 2009, Jean-Marc Lasgouttes wrote:


Jean-Pierre Chrétien jeanpierre.chret...@free.fr writes:



Is there a way to display the French pages if the browser is
French-speaking ?


I have proposed this in the past, but Christian was not sure he wanted
it. I still think we should (at least for languages that are considered
to be complete enough)


By now I've forgotten any objections I might have had, so for me it's 
fine. Of course, I've also completely forgotten how this would be 
implemented...   I'm rather busy so if either you do it, or I'm given 
some algorithm.


AFAIR, needs directives on the server side.
LyX pretends that the server name is none of my business :-(
If it's Apache, language negotiation  may be on by default:

AddLanguage da .dk
AddLanguage nl .nl
AddLanguage en .en
AddLanguage et .et
AddLanguage fr .fr
AddLanguage de .de
AddLanguage he .he
...

but the mechanism does not seem compatible with pmwiki, as it requires
pages in different languages to have suffices like .fr, .de, etc.

I guess that this was the problem that raised objections from you at the 
time. Forget about my suggestion.


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Jean-Pierre

Re: fr.po for branch + Intro.lyx

2009-11-17 Thread Jean-Pierre Chrétien


Jürgen Spitzmüller a écrit :



However, your new version has the following diff:

- Il y a aussi une site de référence pour les traductions en français, sur
- laquelle vous pouvez télécharger les fichiers les plus récents
+ Il y a aussi une site de référence pour les traductions en français

Should this go in?


No, I simplified the phrase a bit (to account for the fact that the 
current version of the docs are now published on the wiki), but
we may publish there prereleases of the lyx-2.0 docs, so you can leave 
it as it is.


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Jean-Pierre

Re: xypic.lyx in French update

2009-11-27 Thread Jean-Pierre Chrétien


Uwe Stöhr a écrit :

One tip: When you need to use a multiplication sign like in 3x3 
matrix, you can insert it via the menu Insert-Special 
Character-Symbols. I therefore replaced the formula with this sign in 
your file.


I followed the chktex hints and typed in \times in Math. To use your 
tip, you must know which alphabet to parse: here I have Latin-1 
supplement as default, and I had to display all characters and to parse 
them carefully to find out a x sign in Casseau. Is that the right one ?


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Jean-Pierre

powerdot-example

2009-11-29 Thread Jean-Pierre Chrétien


Hello,

Please find attached a French translation of the powerdot-example file, 
named exemple-powerdot.lyx.


I removed the \usepackage{listings} command in the premable, as I guess 
that it is no more needed since listings has been intefaced with LyX.


I get some warnings in the command window, like:
Counter section does not exist.
step: Counter does not exist: subsection


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Jean-Pierre



exemple-powerdot.lyx
Description: application/lyx

Re: How to update fr.po in trunk

2009-11-29 Thread Jean-Pierre Chrétien


Jürgen Spitzmüller a écrit :

Jean-Pierre Chrétien wrote:

Is it correct to merge fr.po in trunk and fr.po in branch like this
to backport my branch updates in trunk ?


I usually do this manually, using Lokalize (the KDE 4 po editor), which 
provides nifty abilities to sync/merge two po files. You can select branch's 
fr.po as secondary sync source, navigate through all messages that are 
different there and directly copy them to trunk's po file.


I could do this with XEmacs po-mode, but I went to poedit when the 
po-files were converted to UTF-8.


I run Debian stable, KDE-4 is not available so I can't use loKalize. I 
guess I will test the msgmerge path, seems efficient as it found
53-17 = 36 messages in branch that came translated in trunk (these come 
from string changes committed both in branch and in trunk).
I guess also that most of the 257-143=114 new fuzzies come from the 
branch file unification steps.


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Jean-Pierre

Re: powerdot-example

2009-11-30 Thread Jean-Pierre Chrétien


Jürgen Spitzmüller a écrit :

Jean-Pierre Chrétien wrote:



I doubt so. Are you sure you're really using that file?


Sorry, I think I get confused between the two versions of 
exemple-powerdot.lyx, I get your errors all right when I copy the file I 
attached to my mail into the temporary.


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Jean-Pierre

Re: Layout for a letter (in French)

2009-12-01 Thread Jean-Pierre Chrétien


Uwe Stöhr a écrit :

Jean-Pierre Chrétien schrieb:





Some remarks:

- the layout file doesn't follow our layout file style and is in the 
quite old format 4


OK, I will check this


- you use a lot of preamble code in the layout file, it this really needed?


I didn't write the code, I guess it is needed to be able to type in the 
various elements of the letter in any order, I will review it.



- in the preamble of the LyX example file you load the packages
  * lmodern - this is unnecessary because the user can decide in the 
document settings what font to use


Right.

  * itemsep - this is not necessary as the file doesn't contain items. 
(When you really want to have no item separation, don't load this style 
file but set the length \itemsep to 0pt.)


Right.

- you used the LaTeX class lettre for your layout file. What about the 
other letter document classes LyX already supports? dinbrief and 
g-brief2 are in German but its strings can easily be translated to 
French. have you already had a look if support for them might be useful?


Yes, these letter layouts do not follow the French presentation of 
letters. I guess this is the reason why there are several German 
alternatives to the letter layout.


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Jean-Pierre

Example file seminar.lyx translation in French

2009-12-02 Thread Jean-Pierre Chrétien


Hello,

Please find attached a French translation of the example.

Note that the English version suffers from the bug described in the last 
slide: a4paper appears a class option, so that the complilation fails 
with earlier versions of seminar. I suppressed it in the translated 
file. In addition I find the explanation unclear, I would suggest:


...in the menu Document-Settings-Page Layout set the Paper Size to 
“a4” (unless it is the  default layout of your LaTeX distribution) and 
remove a4paper...


The first note says nothing about PDF (ps2pdf). Here I find it better 
than dvipdfm: the third slide does not appear rotated.


Finally, I think that the layout could be modified to get the 
slideheadings next to the slide control styles. I guess this will wait 
1.6.6.


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Jean-Pierre


seminar.lyx
Description: application/lyx

Re: powerdot-example

2009-12-02 Thread Jean-Pierre Chrétien


Ignacio Garcia a écrit :



This issue remains too: the author names don't appear in the
pdf output. It happens also with the English version in branch.
Is it true for you?

Putting the LyX note in the Title environment, beside A LyX sample,
fix it here.


Right, here is an updated version of the French translation.

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Jean-Pierre



exemple-powerdot.lyx
Description: application/lyx

Re: Beamer example update

2009-12-05 Thread Jean-Pierre Chrétien


Jürgen Spitzmüller a écrit :

Jean-Pierre Chrétien wrote:

I see that the English and German Beamer templates are updated.
Do I have time to update also the French template ?


If you can send it very quick (within the next hours), I can consider it.


Here it is.

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Jean-Pierre


fr_beamer-conference-ornate-20min.lyx
Description: application/lyx

Shortcut conflicts in the French interface

2010-04-15 Thread Jean-Pierre Chrétien


Hello,

While editing an example file for crossref implementations in LyX,
I found a couple of shortcut conflicts I had overlooked (in math context 
menus, like

Menus.cpp(587): Menu warning: menu entries Ajouter une ligne
au-dessus|A and Environnement AMS|A share the same shortcut.

If you are aware of such conflicts, please post me the messages that you 
may see in the command window from which you started LyX (on Linux, I 
don't know where to see these messages on Windows).


TIA

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Jean-Pierre

Re: Shortcut conflicts in the French interface

2010-04-15 Thread Jean-Pierre Chrétien


Jean-Pierre Chrétien a écrit :

If you are aware of such conflicts, please post me the messages that you 
may see in the command window from which you started LyX (on Linux, I 
don't know where to see these messages on Windows).


My post only concerns the French interface.
I posted it in French on the lyx-fr mailing list, and I cross-posted it 
on lyx-users and lyx-docs, please answer only on one of these lists, 
thank you.


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Jean-Pierre

Update of UserGuide and EmbeddedObjects manuals

2010-04-20 Thread Jean-Pierre Chrétien


Hello,

Following discussions in ticket #6608, please find attached updates of 
these manuals (sections 6.1 in UserGuide and 3.4.1 in EmbeddedObjects), 
with change tracking.


I guess that thes files won't go through the mailing list, so I post 
patches wrt the current versions of the manuals in branch.


I've already translated in French, I'll post it later.

--
Jean-Pierre
--- UserGuide.lyx.orig	2010-04-19 18:01:47.0 +0200
+++ UserGuide.lyx	2010-04-20 10:39:34.0 +0200
@@ -108,9 +108,9 @@
 \papercolumns 1
 \papersides 2
 \paperpagestyle default
-\tracking_changes false
+\tracking_changes true
 \output_changes false
-\author  
+\author Jean-Pierre 
 \author  
 \end_header
 
@@ -24445,8 +24445,24 @@
 \end_layout
 
 \begin_layout Standard
-Note that the style page won't print the page number if the label is on
- the previous, the same, or the next page.
+Note that the style 
+\change_inserted 0 1271691416
+
+\begin_inset Quotes eld
+\end_inset
+
+on page 
+\change_unchanged
+page
+\change_inserted 0 1271691060
+
+\begin_inset Quotes erd
+\end_inset
+
+
+\change_unchanged
+ won't print the page number if the label is on the previous, the same,
+ or the next page.
  You will e.
 \begin_inset space \thinspace{}
 \end_inset
@@ -24468,6 +24484,19 @@
 \end_inset
 
  instead.
+
+\change_inserted 0 1271752702
+ Style 
+\begin_inset Quotes eld
+\end_inset
+
+reference on page page
+\begin_inset Quotes erd
+\end_inset
+
+ won't print anything if the label if on the same page.
+\change_unchanged
+
 \end_layout
 
 \begin_layout Standard
@@ -24564,8 +24593,339 @@
 Embedded Objects
 \emph default
  manual.
+\change_inserted 0 1271693304
+
 \end_layout
 
+\begin_layout Standard
+
+\change_inserted 0 1271693498
+
+\series bold
+prettyref
+\series default
+ does not know currently all the possible label shortcuts, you may extend
+ to other shortcuts than 
+\family typewriter
+eq
+\family default
+, 
+\family typewriter
+lem
+\family default
+, 
+\family typewriter
+thm
+\family default
+, 
+\family typewriter
+cha
+\family default
+, 
+\family typewriter
+sec
+\family default
+, 
+\family typewriter
+tab
+\family default
+, and 
+\family typewriter
+fig
+\family default
+ by adding to the preamble e.g.:
+\end_layout
+
+\begin_layout LyX-Code
+
+\change_inserted 0 1271694162
+
+\backslash
+newrefformat{cor}{Corollary 
+\backslash
+ref{#1}}
+\end_layout
+
+\begin_layout Paragraph
+
+\change_inserted 0 1271694428
+Note for non-English documents:
+\end_layout
+
+\begin_layout Standard
+
+\change_inserted 0 1271694166
+using babel languages which make the period character active (like French)
+ creates an error with styles 
+\begin_inset Quotes eld
+\end_inset
+
+on
+\begin_inset space ~
+\end_inset
+
+page
+\begin_inset space ~
+\end_inset
+
+page
+\begin_inset Quotes erd
+\end_inset
+
+ and 
+\begin_inset Quotes eld
+\end_inset
+
+reference
+\begin_inset space ~
+\end_inset
+
+on
+\begin_inset space ~
+\end_inset
+
+page
+\begin_inset space ~
+\end_inset
+
+page
+\begin_inset Quotes erd
+\end_inset
+
+, and with style 
+\begin_inset Quotes eld
+\end_inset
+
+Formatted
+\begin_inset space ~
+\end_inset
+
+reference
+\begin_inset Quotes erd
+\end_inset
+
+.
+ 
+\end_layout
+
+\begin_layout Itemize
+
+\change_inserted 0 1271694166
+In the latter case, you can embed each reference in two ERT boxes like this:
+ 
+\end_layout
+
+\begin_deeper
+\begin_layout LyX-Code
+
+\change_inserted 0 1271694166
+
+\series bold
+{
+\backslash
+shorthandoff{:}
+\series default
+Formatted
+\begin_inset space ~
+\end_inset
+
+reference
+\series bold
+}
+\end_layout
+
+\begin_layout Standard
+
+\change_inserted 0 1271694166
+Moreover, as 
+\series bold
+prettyref
+\series default
+ is not internationalized, you will have to redefine the 
+\backslash
+
+\family typewriter
+newformat
+\family default
+ commands in the preamble:
+\end_layout
+
+\begin_layout LyX-Code
+
+\change_inserted 0 1271694166
+
+\backslash
+newrefformat{eq}{
+\backslash
+textup{(
+\backslash
+ref{#1})}}
+\end_layout
+
+\begin_layout LyX-Code
+
+\change_inserted 0 1271694166
+
+\backslash
+newrefformat{lem}{Lemma 
+\backslash
+ref{#1}}
+\end_layout
+
+\begin_layout LyX-Code
+
+\change_inserted 0 1271694166
+
+\backslash
+newrefformat{thm}{Theorem 
+\backslash
+ref{#1}}
+\end_layout
+
+\begin_layout LyX-Code
+
+\change_inserted 0 1271694166
+
+\backslash
+newrefformat{cha}{Chapter 
+\backslash
+ref{#1}}
+\end_layout
+
+\begin_layout LyX-Code
+
+\change_inserted 0 1271694166
+
+\backslash
+newrefformat{sec}{Section 
+\backslash
+ref{#1}}
+\end_layout
+
+\begin_layout LyX-Code
+
+\change_inserted 0 1271694166
+
+\backslash
+newrefformat{tab}{Table 
+\backslash
+ref{#1} on page 
+\backslash
+pageref{#1}}
+\end_layout
+
+\begin_layout LyX-Code
+
+\change_inserted 0 1271694166
+
+\backslash
+newrefformat{fig}{Figure 
+\backslash
+ref{#1} on page 
+\backslash
+pageref{#1}}
+\end_layout
+
+\begin_layout Standard
+
+\change_inserted 0 1271694166
+by the adequate string

Interface in trunk

2010-05-14 Thread Jean-Pierre Chrétien


Hello,

IMHO, the sentence

The document class requested\n
\t%1$s\n
requires ...

(line 535 in src/BufferParams.cpp)
should read better

The document class selected\n
\t%1$s\n
requires ...

Regards

--
Jean-Pierre

Checksums and signing

2010-06-17 Thread Jean-Pierre Chrétien


Hello,

I just translated in French this new section of 
http://www.lyx.org/Download
and I had a try with this new procedure. I'm new to gpg, so where do I 
find te keyserver ? Should not this information be added to the paragraph ?


Btw, the named link pointed to in section 1 is toc11, not toc7.

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Jean-Pierre

Plain layout

2010-07-05 Thread Jean-Pierre Chrétien


Hello,

While reviewing French docs for 1.6.7 release, I noticed that
all the menu markups have changed: they appear inside 4 small markers, 
and the corresponding style reads Plain layout (greyed out) as shown 
on the attached image.


The corresponding LyX code reads:
cite
\begin_inset Flex CharStyle:MenuItem
status collapsed

\begin_layout Plain Layout
File\SpecialChar \menuseparator
Print
\end_layout

\end_inset
/cite

In the French docs, the same piece of code reads:
cite
\family sans
Fichier\SpecialChar \menuseparator
Imprimer
/cite

I understand that a MenuItem character style has been used in the 
English docs.

I guess it must be possible to filter the French docs to substitute the
character style to the former simple text font change, but is it worth 
to do so?


--
Jean-Pierre



inline: markup.png

Re: Plain layout

2010-07-07 Thread Jean-Pierre Chrétien


Uwe Stöhr a écrit :

Am 05.07.2010 16:18, schrieb Jean-Pierre Chrétien:





I understand that a MenuItem character style has been used in the
English docs.
I guess it must be possible to filter the French docs to substitute the
character style to the former simple text font change, but is it worth
to do so?


Why do you want to remove the character styles? They work the same way 
in all languages.


Sure, but currently the font changes are not implemented by character 
styles in the French Extended manual. It's quite a lot of work to change 
manually each occurrence, and I wonder if a filtering of the LyX file is 
ever possible, when I consider the LyX markup for plain font change.


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Jean-Pierre

Re: Plain layout

2010-07-12 Thread Jean-Pierre Chrétien


Uwe Stöhr a écrit :

Am 07.07.2010 08:18, schrieb Jean-Pierre ChrÃ©tien:


I don't have an idea how to do this. But its no problem if you omit the 
character styles in the French manual - I also omit them in the German 
ones.


OK.
However I activated the LogicalMarkup module to be able to copy/paste
from the English manual in the French one without red patches
emphasizing unrecognized layouts.
As MenuItem is not part of the module, I had to patch  this

\begin_local_layout
Format 7
InsetLayout CharStyle:MenuItem
LyxType   charstyle
LabelString   menu
LatexType command
LatexName menuitem
Font
Family  Sans
EndFont
Preamble
\newcommand*{\menuitem}[1]{{\sffamily #1}}
EndPreamble
End
\end_local_layout

into the .lyx file.
Is there a way to ad this local_layout inset from the LyX interface ?
Otherwise it would be good to add MenuItem to the LogicalMarkup module
(maybe called SansSerif ?)

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Jean-Pierre

lyx help translation

2010-08-02 Thread Jean-Pierre Chrétien


Hello,

The following sentence appears in the command line help of LyX:

Anything else is equivalent to `all', but is not consumed

Sorry, I don't understand what 'is not consumed' means. Is it
'is not executed' ?

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Jean-Pierre

Re: lyx help translation

2010-08-03 Thread Jean-Pierre Chrétien


Jürgen Spitzmüller a écrit :

I would translate it as: it is silently skipped, and the program performs as 
if all was issued as an argument.


Understood, thanks.

However I've mentioned this before, but
 lyx-2.0.0svn -help
does not display the translated strings in a French locale
on Debian Lenny.

So my translation is anyway useless :-(

Shoud I file a ticket about this ? I found none currently.

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Jean-Pierre

Re: lyx help translation

2010-08-03 Thread Jean-Pierre Chrétien


Jürgen Spitzmüller a écrit :

Jean-Pierre Chrétien wrote:

Shoud I file a ticket about this ? I found none currently.


Yes, please.


Bug #6842

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Jean-Pierre

Re: Beginner Question

2010-09-02 Thread Jean-Pierre Chrétien


Jordan Tousignant a écrit :
I'm trying to follow the tutorial, but I can't find the example_raw.lyx 
file to do the exercises. Where is it?


File-Open (Alt+F O the shortcuts way)
then click on the Examples button in the upper right corner and browse the 
directory.


--
Jean-Pierre

Re: Layout for a letter (in French)

2010-10-04 Thread Jean-Pierre Chrétien


Uwe Stöhr uwestoehr at web.de writes:


 Jean-Pierre Chrétien schrieb:

  - you used the LaTeX class lettre for your layout file. What about
  the other letter document classes LyX already supports?
[...]
  Yes, these letter layouts do not follow the French presentation of
  letters. I guess this is the reason why there are several German
  alternatives to the letter layout.

 OK, then we'll use your layout file when the mentioned issues are 
fixed/reviewed.

I've finally reviewed, simplified and updated the lettre.layout file
and the modelettre.lyx template which implement (almost) completely
the class lettre.cls, hopefully for inclusion in LyX-1.6.8.

The styles are in English, I tried to minimize the number of new strings
to be translated, but there are some. I recreated the pot file after svn up,
merged with the current fr.po and updated it
(I don't know if the pot creation file should be done directely on svn,
and the update of po file should be made after svn up).

I'm going to send the three files via po-updates.

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Jean-Pierre

Re: Layout for a letter (in French)

2010-10-04 Thread Jean-Pierre Chrétien


Liviu Andronic a écrit :


What about frletter? It is based on 'letter' and loosely follows
French conventions.


IMHO, the lettre class is more powerful, and I've been using the layout and the 
template for a long time with full success.



The layout is on the wiki, but was also recently
included in branch and trunk.


I've seen this, yes. I rather worked on the French docs since Uwe's requirement 
to update and simplify the lettre.layout, so it is ready just right now.


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Jean-Pierre

Message in en.po

2010-10-21 Thread Jean-Pierre Chrétien


Hello,

Is seems to me that message:

Adds environments to define header and footer lines NOTE: To use this mudule you 
must set the Headings style in the menu Document Settings - Page Layout to fancy!


should rather read:

Adds environments to define header and footer lines. NOTE: To use this module 
you must set the Headings style in the menu Document - Settings - Page Layout 
to fancy!


--
Jean-Pierre

Re: Please prepare for LyX 1.6.8

2010-11-08 Thread Jean-Pierre Chrétien


Szõke Sándor - Alex a écrit :


PS.: Good news from me: At 26.10.2010. a nice girl born onto Earth. She
called Greta. She is my first daughter, and requires all the time we
have (and even more). She is hungry, and unfortunately she doesn't like
to sleep, therefore she cries a lot. Some pictures are available at
http://szokesandor.hu in the Gallery section (20101026_sello_szuletes
[mermaid born], 20101029_greta_hazajon [Greta comes home],
20101030_greta_otthon_2nap [2nd day at home]).


Congratulations, and a long and happy life for Greta.

--
Jean-Pierre

Re: beamer.layout

2010-11-12 Thread Jean-Pierre Chrétien


Jürgen Spitzmüller a écrit :

Maybe it would be a good idea to add these *Margin strings to gettext? 
Adapting it to French is probably not the right solution for other languages.


They are already, and translated in the po files, that's why in French (and 
maybe other languages) the string


Colonnes (alignées sur première ligne) (translation of Columns (top aligned))

gets truncated in the LyX window if the label is static.

--
Jean-Pierre

Re: beamer.layout

2010-11-13 Thread Jean-Pierre Chrétien


Jürgen Spitzmüller a écrit :

Jean-Pierre Chrétien wrote:




But does the Dynamic option for margin have a drawback ?
Otherwise it works fine.


I don't think so. But it's not something I'd like to change two days prior to 
the relase.


Purely cosmetic, it can wait 1.6.9 of course.
Maybe it can go in trunk also.

--
Jean-Pierre

Re: English version of the Customization manual

2011-01-17 Thread Jean-Pierre Chrétien


Pavel Sanda a écrit :

Jean-Pierre,

your free.fr is continuosly rejecting my mails, so CC-ing to lyx-doc.


Sorry for this. What does the rejection message say, so that I can see what's 
wrong with my provider ?



Uwe is not here, so i will try to speak in his name. work on 1.6 manuals
has been finished (i seem to remember such messages in recent months).
all work should be focused on 2.0 manuals, which can change of course.


OK, I will see with the 2.0 manual, but I hope that the French 1.6 manuals can 
still be updated.


--
Jean-Pierre

Web site download page

2011-03-03 Thread Jean-Pierre Chrétien


Hello,

Seems to me that variable
(:winaltinstallerurl:
in that page is no longer used.

Sould be removed I guess.

--
Jean-Pierre

Re: Small typo in RC2 French

2011-04-01 Thread Jean-Pierre Chrétien


Pavel Sanda a écrit :

Murat Yildizoglu wrote:

I am translating the interface element names from French to signal the typo:
In Preferences/Type/Word Completion, the title of the second block of
preferences on the right tab must read
En mode mathématique instead of En mode mathé*t*matique.

Small detail, but visible default ;-)


Will be corrected in the next releases.
Thanks for the hint.

--
Jean-Pierre

Re: Translations of Math environments in LyX output - last call for LyX 2.0

2011-04-08 Thread Jean-Pierre Chrétien


Pavel Sanda a écrit :

Pavel Sanda wrote:
Please go through all entries in the attached file for your language and 
ensure that they are correctly translated. Make any needed update in the .po 
files as usual. The lib/layouttranslations file will be regenerated 
automatically from the .po files before the final 2.0.0 release.


note: we shrinked the list of lib/layouttranslations not to contain
strings which are translated by babel, the current version can be found here:
http://www.lyx.org/trac/browser/lyx-devel/trunk/lib/layouttranslations


Hello Pavel,

I don't unserstand what happened, a lot of strings which are not translated in 
frenchb.ldf have disappeared.


Here are the strings present in frenchb.ldf and in the first version of 
layouttranslations:


   \def\listfigurename{Table des figures}%
   \def\listtablename{Liste des tableaux}%
   \def\figurename{{\scshape Figure}}%
   \def\tablename{{\scshape Table}}%
   \def\proofname{D\'emonstration}%

Btw, there are some peculiarities that the mechanism is unable to manage, like 
the \scshape required by french typography.


On the other side, I would have liked to correct the inconsistence in French 
babel about the translation of table:

   \def\listtablename{Liste des tableaux}%
   \def\tablename{{\scshape Table}}%
(\def\tablename{{\scshape Tableau}} would be better IMHO),
so I would have preferred LyX to overwrite babel defaults to make them 
consistent with the French terms used in LyX.


--
Jean-Pierre

Re: Translations of Math environments in LyX output - last call for LyX 2.0

2011-04-08 Thread Jean-Pierre Chrétien


Pavel Sanda a écrit :

Julien Rioux wrote:

Actually, I think we should, eventually :)


why not fix it in french babel if its wrong?


I had an exchange about this issue with Daniel Flipo, the maintainer of French 
babel.


I asked him about the inconsitency, and more generally about the translation of 
'table' in French.


This is a bit complex, because there are two different translations - 'table' 
and 'tableau' which have not exactly the same meaning, table is more informal 
(one would not say e.g. 'tableau de matières' for toc), but in most situations 
where a table is a presentation of numerical results, the word 'tableau' is more 
appropriate.


He agreed with me about the inconsistency between 'Liste des tableaux' and 
'table' for each individual caption, but was reluctant to change it mainly 
because of the changes in old docs (overfull hboxes or more serious changes in 
the layout). However he changed the captions some time ago from Fig. and Tab. to 
Figure and Tableau, so he may be convinced.


He suggested to raise the question on fr.comp.text.tex, but I declined the 
proposal because I guess I will end wity 50/50 rating between table and tableau, 
not to speak of possible flame wars.


Anyway, even in the present situation, the correct instructions to change the 
captions and more generally the layouttranslations strings should be provided in 
the LyX doc, in the line of the recent answer I made to an user on the lyx-fr 
list (sorry, this is in French):


http://www.mail-archive.com/lyx-fr@lists.lyx.org/msg01842.html

To conclude, currently LyX knows 'tableau' as the standard homogeneous 
translation for the table environment in the GUI, that's why I think it would be 
more correct to provide an homogeneous translation in the  LaTeX output, with 
accompanying appropriate explanations (in the French version).


--
Jean-Pierre

Userguide

2011-04-21 Thread Jean-Pierre Chrétien


Hello,

While reviewing the French version of the UserGuide for branch, I added section
A.7.4 about the Check TeX program, the line appears with my installation.
This section does not appear in the original English manual, nor in the 2.0 
version of the manual.


--
Jean-Pierre

Re: Site translations

2011-05-09 Thread Jean-Pierre Chrétien


Diego Queiroz a écrit :
I realized right now that French and Japanese versions of the site have 
copies of the download links variables in the source code.
As state in SiteDocumentation, the download links should be centralized 
in the English download page. So those variables aren't necessary.


I removed them from the Portuguese (the one I am currently translating) 
and the French version (because it was already updated). On the place of 
the variables I included the following comment:


(:comment Please update the variables on the ENGLISH download page! See 
Web.SiteDocumentation#DownloadLinksDocumentation for instructions :)


And included the following in the English page:

(:comment If you are using this page as a template for a new 
translation, DO NOT COPY these variables. Skip them and go to TOC. :)


I think this will prevent future misunderstandings.


Thanks a lot for performing this, Diego, I should have noticed the 
{Web.Download$:} tags in the page code.


--
Jean-Pierre

enumitem.lyx

2011-06-15 Thread Jean-Pierre Chrétien


Hello,

There are two items in German in this example file.
Are they intended to be so?

--
Jean-Pierre

Fwd: Additional manual

2011-06-21 Thread Jean-Pierre Chrétien



Hello,

While revewing the French translation of this manual, I found a few items which
need correction IMHO:

section 5.6.1: rather

Document--Settings-Output-Synchronize with Output

than

Document-Output-Synchronize with Output


section 7.1.3: sentence

 Another choice in the most desperate situations is to use View-Remove All
Error Boxes, which will get rid of all warnings instantly.

seems obsolete, as I do not find this item menu anymore (nor in fr.po as well).

section 7.2.1: sentence

Before you begin to use the version control features in LyX, you should be
familiar with RCS/CVS/SVN usage before start using it under LyX.

is redundant.

--
Jean-Pierre

Re: Translation of shortcuts descriptions via Lyx info insets

2011-08-29 Thread Jean-Pierre Chrétien


Le 25/08/2011 21:16, Uwe Stöhr a écrit :

Am 22.08.2011 11:03, schrieb Jean-Pierre Chrétien:


You can see that Return is translated as Entrée (which is the word
written on French Keyboards),
but I can't edit the Alt+Return sequence as it comes from a lyx info
reference.


This is a known limitation of InsetInfo that it cannot be set into the
language of the document. Just 3 weeks ago we discussed this on the
lyx-devel list again and hopefully tzhis will be fixed soon.


OK, I've parsed the Initial experience with LyX thread, and if I understand 
correctly, I should rather leave the Insetinfo insets as they are rather than 
replace them by a plain translation, this will be corrected ('soon' seems 
optimistic, ticket #5348 has no milestone set).


I have however further questions:
 - is the InsetInfo stuff documented in some place?
 - how could I create one from scratch in a fresh doc?
 - does the mecanism extends (or will extend) to other stuff than shortcuts,
as e.g. menu items like DocumentSettings?
 - if I open ToolsPreferencesEditingShortcuts in French, and search for 
'break-paragraph' shortcuts, I find that 'Return' is translated as 'Retour'.
This is bad because it is translated by 'Entrée', which is better IMHO, in the 
docs. Where are these strings translated? I can't find anything in the po files, 
nor in the whole tree of the LyX sources.


--
Jean-Pierre

Current values of lyx versions in I18n web page

2011-09-01 Thread Jean-Pierre Chrétien


Hello,

I read this in http://www.lyx.org/I18n

quote
The following table details the current state of the translations of the LyX GUI 
for the LyX stable branch (version 2.1.0svn), which will become the next 
maintenance release.

/quote

Further investigation shows that variables in the page point to wrong values:
(:LyX_i18n_version:) - 2.1.0svn
(:LyX_i18n_trunk_version:) - 2.0.0svn

The attached patch hopefully corrects this (I set the branch maintenance
number to 2.0.2svn, maybe a bit early).

--
Jean-Pierre


--- farm/cookbook/LyX/i18n.inc.orig	2011-09-01 08:49:26.0 +0200
+++ farm/cookbook/LyX/i18n.inc	2011-09-01 08:50:41.0 +0200
@@ -1,6 +1,6 @@
 ?php
 // The current version
-$lyx_version = 2.1.0svn;
+$lyx_version = 2.0.2svn;
 // The branch tag
 $branch_tag = branches/BRANCH_2_0_X;
 
--- farm/cookbook/LyX/i18n_trunk.inc.orig	2011-09-01 08:49:44.0 +0200
+++ farm/cookbook/LyX/i18n_trunk.inc	2011-09-01 08:54:06.0 +0200
@@ -1,7 +1,7 @@
 ?php
 // The current version
-$lyx_version = 2.0.0svn;
-// The branch tag
+$lyx_version = 2.1.0svn;
+// The trunk tag
 $branch_tag = trunk;
 
 // The data itself

Re: Current values of lyx versions in I18n web page

2011-09-02 Thread Jean-Pierre Chrétien


Le 01/09/2011 14:27, Uwe Stöhr a écrit :

Am 01.09.2011 08:57, schrieb Jean-Pierre Chrétien:


I read this in http://www.lyx.org/I18n

Further investigation shows that variables in the page point to wrong
values:


Thanks, I've put this in. I several times informed Richard heck (the
2.0.x release maintainer) about this, but with every update he switched
back to the wrong version numbering. I guess there is a bug in his
update script.


Should I edit the wiki page about release procedures of
maintenance versions to add
'Update next lyx maintenance version number in i18n.inc'
in the www-user section ?


Another question: What is your time frame to update the French
documentation? There is more work to do to be up to date for LyX 2.0.x
but before I can start with the final step, I need your translations.
The Math and EmbeddedObjects manual are already finished, so you only
need to translate them - which is not urgent.
For the UserGuide I need to do some more update work. I therefore need
your translation updates soon. If you don't have time for this right
now, pleas send me what you have. I will then go on and inform you when
I'm ready with the UserGuide.


Currently, following your last mail about it, I restored the 2.0.0 preamble and
I am at the same time merging my last updates for 1.6 and your new updates, 
translating them or not depending if thet are full paragraphs or more local edits.


I can speedup things by just merging your edits without translations to be able 
to handle you shortly a UserGuide.lyx file than you can edit again. I will come 
back to translations once you are OK with your changes.


What would be your deadline to begin editing the manual again?

--
Jean-Pierre

Re: powerdot-example.lyx fails to compile with TL 2011/MikTeX 2.9

2011-10-07 Thread Jean-Pierre Chrétien


Le 05/10/2011 21:12, Uwe Stöhr a écrit :

Am 05.10.2011 15:48, schrieb Jean-Pierre Chrétien:



Currently I have some spare time and would go on with the English
version. But to avoid conflicts, I would be happy if you could send me
what you have when you finished section 6.7. Then I can go on and will
only change Appendix C and the sections below 6.8. OK?


Please go on editing the English version and plugging changes in the French 
version of UserGuide.lyx in Trac: my current updated document is a merge between 
the 1.6 version with 2.0 preamble, your updated French version and the 
up-to-date Englidh version with is the real reference that I check carefully for 
changes anyway. If you restrat with my current version, I will be more lost than 
working on it until is is fully updated.


I have a fez suggestions about the English version:

1/ by the end of section 3.3.6: is the page break still appropriate ?

2/ section 3.3.7.4: index entry should read Lists!Custom instead of 
Lists!Description


3/ section 3.8.2.2: menu item should read  File-Export-LaT{}eX (standard)
instead of File-Export-LaT{}eX

4/ section 6.1, definition of a formatted reference: I would add a word about 
prettyref deprecation in the note, like: ..prettyref or refstyle. The prettyref 
package is deprecated  by LyX, which selects refstyle as default for any new 
document.

I would add as well an example of a formatted reference.
Here is an example of a formatted reference: sec:Citation.


5/ section 6.1, definition of a textual reference: make it more precise, e.g.
prints the content of the caption or the name of the reference, e.g. the heading 
of a section instead of prints the caption or name of the reference


--
Jean-Pierre

Re: powerdot-example.lyx fails to compile with TL 2011/MikTeX 2.9

2011-10-09 Thread Jean-Pierre Chrétien


Le 09/10/2011 06:33, Uwe Stöhr a écrit :

Am 07.10.2011 16:17, schrieb Jean-Pierre Chrétien:

But this is not the case. The default setting is still to use prettyref.
refstyle is only used if you explicitly set its option in the document
settings.


Just open a fresh document and look at DocumentSettingsDocument class.

And take a look at the prettyref code, I don't understand how Kevin Ruland can 
claim copyright for such a small piece of creativity, which has no provision for 
multinlingual application and in addition is hopelessly broken in French babel. 
As a result, users have developed a lot of document specific command 
definitions, which prevented LyX developers to simply remove support for it from 
the LyX distribution (see the threads about this last year).


Have I mentioned the ridiculous public domain release, clearly just added to 
avoid being thrown away by TL maintainers ?


--
Jean-Pierre

Consistency of strrings in theroems modules

2011-11-04 Thread Jean-Pierre Chrétien


Hello,

While updating fr.po for 2.0.2, I see that the Conjecture \\theconjecture and 
such strings in theorems-without-preamble.inc are not consistent with similar 
strings in other theorems modules (there is no final dot).


I know that this can't be solved before 2.0.2 because of the freeze, but it adds 
unnecessary lines in the po files, unless there is a

strong reason to do so.

--
Jean-Pierre

Re: Local Layouts - Additional Features manual?

2012-01-12 Thread Jean-Pierre Chrétien


Le 12/01/2012 08:07, Andrew Parsloe a écrit :

Dear LyX documenters,

I recently needed to turn a big LyX document into a number of Word
documents (one for each chapter). Because the export to OpenOffice
format no longer worked on my system (I can't find oolatex in a new
install of MiKTeX 2.9), and time was short, I resorted to pasting from
the pdf to Word.


Up to my own experience, I found latex2rtf
http://latex2rtf.sourceforge.net/
to be the best solution to turn à LyX document into office stuff (open the 
result in Word, not in OpenOffice).
Math constructs are correctly translated (but alas cannot be edited, but for 
simple ones).


--
Jean-Pierre

Re: lyx-docs@lists.lyx.org

2012-01-19 Thread Jean-Pierre Chrétien


Le 19/01/2012 10:25, elloh van a écrit :

Dear Sir/Madam,




I would like to know if provisions are made in LyX
to make range citations as in the second
and third citations in the file ''type-one-citation'' when
your document is printed ?

If yes, where can I find it in LyX ?


If natbib fits your needs in citation style

DocumentsSettingsBibliographyNatbibNatbib stylenumerical

[#ID] in the citation menu

and adding the keywords sortcompress to the class options in
DocumentsSettingsDocument classOptions

will do it.

With biblatex, seems that the keywords style=numeric-comp in the class options 
do the trick.


--
Jean-Pierre

Website translated pages flag pointers

2012-05-03 Thread Jean-Pierre Chrétien


Hello,

While translating the last change in

http://www.lyx.org/PressAboutLyX

in the French corresponding page, I see that the French flag at the top of the 
page points on


http://www.lyx.org/WebFr.PageActions

instead of

http://www.lyx.org/WebFr.PressAboutLyX

This is not specific to French, nor to the requested page: other flags behave 
alike in every page of the website.


The language selector (leftmost button) works however all right.

--
Jean-Pierre

Listing of English pages in the website translation page

2012-07-03 Thread Jean-Pierre Chrétien

Hello,

A new HowToUseGIT page has been added to the set of website page.
It would be good to reflect this change (and maybe others ?) in the English root
page.
It would be nice also to remove pages which do not need translation any more.

TIA

-- 
Jean-Pierre

Re: Listing of English pages in the website translation page

2012-07-03 Thread Jean-Pierre Chrétien


Le 03/07/2012 13:37, Pavel Sanda a écrit :

Jean-Pierre Chrétien wrote:

A new HowToUseGIT page has been added to the set of website page.
It would be good to reflect this change (and maybe others ?) in the English root
page.


Where do you mean? I changed the link in http://www.lyx.org/Development.


Sorry, my mail was unclear without the URL of the page:

http://www.lyx.org/SiteTranslation




It would be nice also to remove pages which do not need translation any more.


Which ones?


At the time of my initial translation, I did not translate
  * AboutLyXMod
  * DeveloperResources
  * DevelopmentNews
  * HomeNewGraphic
  * OldIntro
  * PressReleaseLyX1-0-0

Was that correct ?

--
Jean-Pierre

Re: URGENT help with LYX

2012-08-20 Thread Jean-Pierre Chrétien


Le 20/08/2012 12:24, Sydney Jason a écrit :

Hello,

I have just completed my thesis and about to print it for submission and
just discovered that Lyx is printing funny character for my table of
content List of figure, List of table

Can some one please help me, my submission is few days time.

I attached the screenshot of the error. this is the only problem .


What is your question exactly ? The page numebering (as John seems to have 
understood) or the fact that some parts are in English and others in Dutch ?


Jean-Pierre

How to mirror LyX sites Web page

2012-08-22 Thread Jean-Pierre Chrétien


Hello,

Following the recent updates of this page, I think that this sentence in section 
2 :


(I think I want to require this for national lyx mirrors.)

is outdated.

--
Jean-Pierre

Re: Issues with Tutorial Section 3.4 Labels and Cross-References

2012-11-30 Thread Jean-Pierre Chrétien


Le 30/11/2012 00:03, Eric Kenney a écrit :

Hi!  I'm using your tutorial, and so far I'm finding it pretty useful,
except:

Section 3.4, Labels and Cross-References.

1st off, you tell us to use a reference on page page cross
reference. But you forget to tell us two things: 1, that this cross
reference will simply omit on page page in the cross reference is on
the same page as the label. And 2nd, in 3.4.2 you tell us to insert this
into the sentence Section [Cross-Reference], which can be found on
page. Like so.

This yields, at best, ...Section 2 on page X, which can be found on page.

As such, I've wasted an inappropriate amount of time on this section
trying to figure out what I was doing wrong. You may want to fix it.



Which LyX version are you using ?

In the current version of the Tutorial, I read:
cite
View your document as DVI, and you will see that LaTeX has been even cleverer 
than that. It refers to “Section 2” and depending how much text you have between 
the start of Section 2 and this cross-reference you may see “on this page”, “on 
the previous page” or “on page n” (whereas n is the page number).

/cite

You are however right about the crossref procedure insertion, which should be 
changed to:


cite
If you want to know more about this document, then see Section.

Now — with the cursor after the word “Section” — choose Insert-Cross 
Reference...
/cite

--
Jean-Pierre

Re: Issues with Tutorial Section 3.4 Labels and Cross-References

2012-11-30 Thread Jean-Pierre Chrétien


Le 30/11/2012 14:41, Jean-Pierre Chrétien a écrit :


You are however right about the crossref procedure insertion, which
should be changed to:

cite
If you want to know more about this document, then see Section.

Now — with the cursor after the word “Section” — choose Insert-Cross
Reference...
/cite


Rather with a space before the period (an unbreakable space in fact, as 
explained further in the section):


cite
If you want to know more about this document, then see Section .

Now — with the cursor before the period after the word “Section” — choose 
Insert-Cross Reference...

/cite
with a space before the period (an unbreakable space in fact, as explained 
further in the section).

Re: Issues with Tutorial Section 3.4 Labels and Cross-References

2012-11-30 Thread Jean-Pierre Chrétien


Le 30/11/2012 15:51, Jean-Pierre Chrétien a écrit :

Le 30/11/2012 14:41, Jean-Pierre Chrétien a écrit :



cite
If you want to know more about this document, then see Section .

Now — with the cursor before the period after the word “Section” —
choose Insert-Cross Reference...
/cite
with a space before the period (an unbreakable space in fact, as
explained further in the section).


oups, sorry, forget the last sentence.

Jean-Pierre

Re: Faute de frappe dans Introduction à LyX

2013-02-02 Thread Jean-Pierre Chrétien


Le 02/02/2013 20:47, Haller Roland a écrit :

  Bonjour,

Je me permet de vous signaler l'absence de esse dans la phrase :

Extension du Guide de L’Utilisateur, il explique en détail comment
utiliser les tableaux, les graphiques, les objets flottants, les notes
et _le _boîtes.

Page 9, section 2.3, paragraphe Objets insérés.


C'est corrigé, merci de l'avoir signalé.

Notez bien que la liste lyx-docs est anglophone, il existe une liste 
francophone :

lyx...@lists.lyx.org

--
Jean-Pierre

Typo in UserGuide

2013-04-21 Thread Jean-Pierre Chrétien


Hello,

In section 5.2 of the UserGuide, the following sentence:

cite
For example, that is how you would construct the brackets around a matrix:
formula
 and to make it easier to see the layers of parentheses.
/cite

does not seem very clear to me.
Should not it read :
to make it easier to see the layers of parentheses.
(i.e. withoud and) ?

--
Jean-Pierre

Typo

2013-05-28 Thread Jean-Pierre Chrétien


Hello,

While updating fr.po for master, I found the word spezification several times 
in in powerdot.layout.


--
Jean-Pierre


--- lib/layouts/powerdot.layout.orig	2013-05-28 13:38:28.0 +0200
+++ lib/layouts/powerdot.layout	2013-05-28 13:39:16.0 +0200
@@ -267,7 +267,7 @@
   LabelType Itemize
   Argument 1
 LabelString   Itemize Type
-Tooltip   Itemize type spezification (see powerdot manual)
+Tooltip   Itemize type sepcification (see powerdot manual)
   EndArgument
   Argument 2
 LabelString   Itemize Options
@@ -290,7 +290,7 @@
   CopyStyle Itemize
   Argument 1
 LabelString   Itemize Type
-Tooltip   Itemize type spezification (see powerdot manual)
+Tooltip   Itemize type sepcification (see powerdot manual)
 DefaultArgtype=1
   EndArgument
 End
@@ -317,7 +317,7 @@
   RefPrefix enu
   Argument 1
 LabelString   Enumerate Type
-Tooltip   Enumerate type spezification (see powerdot manual)
+Tooltip   Enumerate type sepcification (see powerdot manual)
   EndArgument
   Argument 2
 LabelString   Enumerate Options
@@ -340,7 +340,7 @@
   CopyStyle   Enumerate
   Argument 1
 LabelString   Enumerate Type
-Tooltip   Enumerate type spezification (see powerdot manual)
+Tooltip   Enumerate type sepcification (see powerdot manual)
 DefaultArgtype=1
   EndArgument
 End

Re: Typo

2013-05-28 Thread Jean-Pierre Chrétien


On 28/05/2013 14:48, Siegfried Meunier-Guttin-Cluzel wrote:

Hello,
Sorry, I don't understand sepcification ... I think it's specification ??


Sure, thanks for pointing it out, attached is a correct diff.

--
Jean-Pierre

--- lib/layouts/powerdot.layout.orig	2013-05-28 13:38:28.0 +0200
+++ lib/layouts/powerdot.layout	2013-05-28 14:56:13.0 +0200
@@ -267,7 +267,7 @@
   LabelType Itemize
   Argument 1
 LabelString   Itemize Type
-Tooltip   Itemize type spezification (see powerdot manual)
+Tooltip   Itemize type specification (see powerdot manual)
   EndArgument
   Argument 2
 LabelString   Itemize Options
@@ -290,7 +290,7 @@
   CopyStyle Itemize
   Argument 1
 LabelString   Itemize Type
-Tooltip   Itemize type spezification (see powerdot manual)
+Tooltip   Itemize type specification (see powerdot manual)
 DefaultArgtype=1
   EndArgument
 End
@@ -317,7 +317,7 @@
   RefPrefix enu
   Argument 1
 LabelString   Enumerate Type
-Tooltip   Enumerate type spezification (see powerdot manual)
+Tooltip   Enumerate type specification (see powerdot manual)
   EndArgument
   Argument 2
 LabelString   Enumerate Options
@@ -340,7 +340,7 @@
   CopyStyle   Enumerate
   Argument 1
 LabelString   Enumerate Type
-Tooltip   Enumerate type spezification (see powerdot manual)
+Tooltip   Enumerate type specification (see powerdot manual)
 DefaultArgtype=1
   EndArgument
 End

Re: Remarques sur l'intro à LyX

2013-09-15 Thread Jean-Pierre Chrétien


Le 15/09/2013 14:53, Etienne Candel a écrit :

Bonjour,

A plusieurs reprises, l'introduction utilise des ... après un etc., or c'est
une faute typographique (certes répandue).


Je réponds en anglais car cette liste est anglophone, la liste francophone est 
lyx...@lists.lyx.org


Typos corrected in the attached patches both for branch and master versions of 
Intro.lyx.
I also corrected the link to www.lyx.org/Translation to point towards the French 
version WebFr.Translation.


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--- lib/doc/fr/Intro.lyx.orig	2013-09-15 16:32:09.0 +0200
+++ lib/doc/fr/Intro.lyx	2013-09-15 16:36:51.0 +0200
@@ -196,11 +196,11 @@
 LyX est un systÃ¨me de prÃ©paration de documents.
  Il est excellent si vous voulez Ã©crire des articles scientifiques et techniques
  complexes avec des mathÃ©matiques, des rÃ©fÃ©rences croisÃ©es, des bibliographies,
- des index, etc\SpecialChar \ldots{}
- Il est trÃ¨s bon pour tous les documents de toutes tailles
- pour lesquels sont requises les fonctions habituelles d'un traitement de
- texte: numÃ©rotation des sections et pagination automatiques, correction
- orthographique, et ainsi de suite.
+ des index, etc.
+ Il est trÃ¨s bon pour tous les documents de toutes tailles pour lesquels
+ sont requises les fonctions habituelles d'un traitement de texte: numÃ©rotation
+ des sections et pagination automatiques, correction orthographique, et
+ ainsi de suite.
  Il peut aussi servir Ã  Ã©crire une lettre Ã  votre maman, mÃªme si je vous
  accorde qu'il existe sans doute des programmes plus simples pour Ã§a.
  Il n'est certainement pas le meilleur outil pour crÃ©er des affiches, tracts
@@ -510,9 +510,8 @@
 voulez
 \emph default
  dÃ©finir exactement oÃ¹ va chaque chose, parce qu'il n'y a pas d'unitÃ©s fonctionn
-elles comme des paragraphes, des sections, etc\SpecialChar \ldots{}
- Ãa ne veut pas dire qu'il
- manque Ã  LyX des fonctions utiles.
+elles comme des paragraphes, des sections, etc.
+ Ãa ne veut pas dire qu'il manque Ã  LyX des fonctions utiles.
  Ãa signifie simplement que ce n'est pas l'outil adaptÃ© â vous n'utilisez
  pas un tournevis pour enfoncer des clous (sauf si votre tournevis est garanti
  Ã  vie).
@@ -581,8 +580,7 @@
 \end_layout
 
 \begin_layout Itemize
-interligne (simple, double, etc\SpecialChar \ldots{}
-);
+interligne (simple, double, etc.);
 \end_layout
 
 \begin_layout Itemize
@@ -594,8 +592,7 @@
 \end_layout
 
 \begin_layout Itemize
-types de caractÃ¨re (gras, italique, soulignÃ©, etc\SpecialChar \ldots{}
-).
+types de caractÃ¨re (gras, italique, soulignÃ©, etc.).
 \end_layout
 
 \begin_layout Standard
@@ -795,8 +792,7 @@
 \family typewriter
 dvi
 \family default
-, ou le convertir vers d'autres formats comme PostScript, PDF, etc\SpecialChar \ldots{}
-
+, ou le convertir vers d'autres formats comme PostScript, PDF, etc.
 \end_layout
 
 \begin_layout Standard
@@ -2685,7 +2681,7 @@
 \begin_layout Standard
 D'autre part il faut prendre garde Ã  ne modifier que la derniÃ¨re version
  de la traduction.
- C'est toujours celle qui est sur le serveur SVN 
+ C'est toujours celle qui est sur le serveur Trac 
 \lang english
 
 \begin_inset Flex URL
@@ -2708,7 +2704,7 @@
 
 \begin_layout Plain Layout
 
-http://www.devel.lyx.org/
+http://www.lyx.org/WebFr.Translation
 \end_layout
 
 \end_inset
--- lib/doc/fr/Intro.lyx.orig	2013-09-15 16:27:50.0 +0200
+++ lib/doc/fr/Intro.lyx	2013-09-15 16:36:21.0 +0200
@@ -196,11 +196,11 @@
 LyX est un systÃ¨me de prÃ©paration de documents.
  Il est excellent si vous voulez Ã©crire des articles scientifiques et techniques
  complexes avec des mathÃ©matiques, des rÃ©fÃ©rences croisÃ©es, des bibliographies,
- des index, etc\SpecialChar \ldots{}
- Il est trÃ¨s bon pour tous les documents de toutes tailles
- pour lesquels sont requises les fonctions habituelles d'un traitement de
- texte: numÃ©rotation des sections et pagination automatiques, correction
- orthographique, et ainsi de suite.
+ des index, etc.
+ Il est trÃ¨s bon pour tous les documents de toutes tailles pour lesquels
+ sont requises les fonctions habituelles d'un traitement de texte: numÃ©rotation
+ des sections et pagination automatiques, correction orthographique, et
+ ainsi de suite.
  Il peut aussi servir Ã  Ã©crire une lettre Ã  votre maman, mÃªme si je vous
  accorde qu'il existe sans doute des programmes plus simples pour Ã§a.
  Il n'est certainement pas le meilleur outil pour crÃ©er des affiches, tracts
@@ -510,9 +510,8 @@
 voulez
 \emph default
  dÃ©finir exactement oÃ¹ va chaque chose, parce qu'il n'y a pas d'unitÃ©s fonctionn
-elles comme des paragraphes, des sections, etc\SpecialChar \ldots{}
- Ãa ne veut pas dire qu'il
- manque Ã  LyX des fonctions utiles.
+elles comme des paragraphes, des sections, etc.
+ Ãa ne veut pas dire qu'il manque Ã  LyX des fonctions utiles.
  Ãa signifie simplement que ce n'est pas l'outil adaptÃ© â vous n'utilisez
  pas un tournevis pour enfoncer des clous (sauf si votre tournevis est garanti

Typos in Customization.lyx

2014-01-23 Thread Jean-Pierre Chrétien


Hello,

While updating Customization.lyx for French, I found these :

Section 3.2, second paragraph, sentence :
The definitions of the copiers may use four variables:
should read:
The definitions of the copiers may use eight variables:

In footnote #2, section 4.1.1, a translator (Adrien or Siegfried, I guess, I 
didn't add added it myself) a warning about Emacs edition of po files, as Emacs 
does not know (up to my knowledge) to handle files encoded in Unicode, something 
like Emacs contains a `mode' for editing po files, as well, but beware, po 
files are Unicode-encoded.


In section 4.1.2; the doc suggests to make a copy of the document, it's OK for 
simple docs, but it won't be good for complex docs with images, file paths will 
be broken when the document will be submitted. It's much better to retrieve the 
LyX tree from git and to edit directly the doc in place.


Section 4.1bis, International Keyboard Support: what is the status of this 
section in an outdated branch?


Section 5.1, enum 3a: the TeXLive path should be indicated, I added in the 
French doc /usr/local/texlive/texmf-local, (and as well /usr/share/texmf as it 
appears when installed by my Debian). In the same line, I added ~/.texlive 
for the location of TEXMFHOME.


Section 5.1, enum 3b: I don't use Windows, but shouldn't the path be documented 
for Windows 7 and Windows 8 if they have changed ?


Section 5.3.3: the current format number is 48.

Section 5.3.6: the last line of Argument item should end by a period.
   in the ForceLocal doc, in the second sentence, 'argment' should 
read 'argument'; the 'If' after the colon should be 'if'.
   in the Bib_Environment doc, adds additionnaly is a pleonasm; a 
period is missing after \begin{thebibliography}{99}.


Section 5.3.7: last sentence, the example should read '(e.g. 2.0.x to 2.1.0)' 
instead of '(e.g. 2.0.x to 2.1.y)' IMHO, as it won't change after 2.1.0 until 2.2.0


Section 5.3.12: should not citemisc %author%, “%title”./cite read
citemisc %author%, “%title%”./cite?

Appendix B: legend for buttonbg should read Color used for button background

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Re: Typos in Customization.lyx

2014-01-23 Thread Jean-Pierre Chrétien


Le 23/01/2014 11:28, Jean-Marc Lasgouttes a écrit :

Le 23/01/2014 10:19, Jean-Pierre Chrétien a écrit :

In footnote #2, section 4.1.1, a translator (Adrien or Siegfried, I
guess, I didn't add added it myself) a warning about Emacs edition of po
files, as Emacs does not know (up to my knowledge) to handle files
encoded in Unicode, something like Emacs contains a `mode' for editing
po files, as well, but beware, po files are Unicode-encoded.


According to
http://www.gnu.org/software/gettext/manual/html_node/Installation.html#Installation
the right thing to add in .emacs for recent emacsen is

(autoload 'po-mode po-mode
   Major mode for translators to edit PO files t)
(setq auto-mode-alist (cons '(\\.po\\'\\|\\.po\\. . po-mode)
  auto-mode-alist))
(autoload 'po-find-file-coding-system po-compat)
(modify-coding-system-alist 'file \\.po\\'\\|\\.po\\.
 'po-find-file-coding-system)


You're right, emacs seems to handle Unicode all right. I was mistaken because I 
personnaly use xemacs, which does not.


So you can forget my hint

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Re: Translations of Math environments in LyX output for LyX 2.1

2014-04-10 Thread Jean-Pierre Chrétien


Le 10/04/2014 12:36, Vincent van Ravesteijn a écrit :

On Wed, Apr 9, 2014 at 11:44 PM, Jean-Pierre Chrétien
jeanpierre.chret...@free.fr wrote:

Le 26/03/2014 21:40, Vincent van Ravesteijn a écrit :




All languages need to be reviewed for the following strings:

   Property (except Finnish),
   Solution (except Finnish),
   Listing,
   Listings



I can't see anything to change for French.

I posted a request for comments on lyx-fr and got one reply from Julien who
wanted some clarifications. The only problem I have is that 'Table' is
translated in French as 'Tableau' so that the 'List of Tableaux' coming from
Optimization theory will be ambiguous with the standard 'List of Tables'
translation in the Toc if I translate both by 'Liste des tableaux'.
The workaround I found with 2.0 was to translate in layouttranslations as
'Liste des tableaux (TO)' where TO stands for 'Théorie de l'Optimisation'.



The strings in layouttranslations are special as they end up in the
actual PDF document. So, adding TO looks a bit wrong to me, because
the reader of the document won't understand.


Any other idea ?



No, not really. I guess the best thing to do is to just have the same
translation. One refers to tables in LyX, the other one to the tables
in the document.


No, my point on this is that one has in the same document a regular 'List of 
Tables' and a OT layout 'List of Tableaux', if they are translated both as 
'Liste des tableaux' (one is in babel file frenchb.ldf and on in 
layouttranslations), I will get two entries 'Liste des tableaux' in the Toc 
(these strings appear only ther, right ?). To discriminate, I added the TO tag.
I could come back to 'Liste des tables' in layoutranslations to differ from 
babel, but as I choose to translate 'table' as 'tableaux' I though I should 
remain consistent.


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Re: Translations of Math environments in LyX output for LyX 2.1

2014-04-11 Thread Jean-Pierre Chrétien


Le 11/04/2014 10:02, Vincent van Ravesteijn a écrit :


I found two French texts on the subject:

http://www.persee.fr/web/revues/home/prescript/article/lfr_0023-8368_2000_num_126_1_989?_Prescripts_Search_tabs1=standard;
http://www.filecluster.fr/logiciel/OTableau-151858.html

Maybe it is such a specialized field that the suffix (OT) is clear to
everyone ? Or maybe you can translate it as tableau optimalité
théorie.

Vincent


Well, I mean:

Tableau - Tableau
List of Tableaux - Liste des tableaux optimalité théorie


I parsed the first French document that you pointed out. I would prefer thus

Tableau - Tableau phonologique
List of Tableaux - Liste des tableaux phonologiques

Jürgen , what do you think? Would phonological be approprioate in English if 
an ambiguity was to be solved ?


I will update the linguistics manual if you agree.

Vincent, thanks a lot for finding this reference, I guess you have other things 
to worry about to-day...


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Re: Text style menu entry

2021-05-10 Thread Jean-Pierre Chrétien


Le 10/05/2021 à 11:47, Jean-Pierre Chrétien a écrit :

Hello

After the review of the documentation to make clear the distinction between text 
properties and text styles, new subsection 3.5.7.1 refers to a non-existent 
"Text Style" menu entry. "Text properties" seems more appropriate, knowing the 
builtin styles can be found in the "Semantic Markup" column there. I intend to 
correct this, does it seem OK ?




More precisely, I'm going to change


use the Text Style dialog [...] as described in 
section [subsec:Fine-Tuning-with-the]


to

use the Text Properties dialog (Edit>Text Properties>Customize...) under 
'Semantic Markup'


The 'Fine Tuning' section deals with formal markup, not semantic markup.

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Text style menu entry

2021-05-10 Thread Jean-Pierre Chrétien


Hello

After the review of the documentation to make clear the distinction between text 
properties and text styles, new subsection 3.5.7.1 refers to a non-existent 
"Text Style" menu entry. "Text properties" seems more appropriate, knowing the 
builtin styles can be found in the "Semantic Markup" column there. I intend to 
correct this, does it seem OK ?


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Missing item+ shortcut in UserGuide

2021-05-06 Thread Jean-Pierre Chrétien


Hello,

At the beginning of section 2.1, "Save all" is missing in the description of the 
menu list for "File".


And the keyboard shortcut with "New from template..." is replaced by 
"undefined". The reason is that Ctrl-Shift-N which pointed to 
buffer-new-template with 2.3, now points to the new "dialog-show lyxfiles 
templates". Substituting the info inset externally solves this issue (I do not 
know how to edit an info inset inside LyX).


I will post an updated version later, I may find other typos while updating the 
French version of the manual.


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Re: Text style menu entry

2021-05-14 Thread Jean-Pierre Chrétien


Le 10/05/2021 à 11:54, Jean-Pierre Chrétien a écrit :

Le 10/05/2021 à 11:47, Jean-Pierre Chrétien a écrit :

Hello

After the review of the documentation to make clear the distinction between 
text properties and text styles, new subsection 3.5.7.1 refers to a 
non-existent "Text Style" menu entry. "Text properties" seems more 
appropriate, knowing the builtin styles can be found in the "Semantic Markup" 
column there. I intend to correct this, does it seem OK ?




More precisely, I'm going to change


use the Text Style dialog [...] as described in 
section [subsec:Fine-Tuning-with-the]


to

use the Text Properties dialog (Edit>Text Properties>Customize...) under 
'Semantic Markup'


The 'Fine Tuning' section deals with formal markup, not semantic markup.



Hello,

Finally I reviewed completely section 3.5.7 (sorry, I wrote section 3.7 in the 
git log): in addition to the editions above, I reorganized paragraphs to stick 
to the combo boxes of the Text Properties window (Font properties, Decoration, etc.)


I had also to turn the inset info menu name Edit>Text Properties>Customize in 
static form: it appeared translated in French in the LyX window (which is 
intended I suppose for an InsetInfo tag), but also in the pdf export, which is 
not good at all.


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Typo in Customization manual ?

2021-04-28 Thread Jean-Pierre Chrétien


Hello

In the Customization manual, should not (in the définition of TableStyle):

Grid_with_Head: Like Simple_Grid, but with the header column offset with a 
second horizontal line. This is also the default style of LyX.


read

Grid_with_Head: Like Simple_Grid, but with the header row offset with a second 
horizontal line. This is also the default style of LyX.


I can edit the manual if needed.

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What does Library mean?

2021-02-10 Thread Jean-Pierre Chrétien


Hello

While translating the interface for master, I find the following string:

Library directory

What does library mean in the context?
Does it refer to /usr/lib?

I was unable to find the string in LyX.

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splash.lyx

2015-02-12 Thread Jean-Pierre Chrétien


Hello,

Attached is a patch to correct a wrong pointer in splash.lyx (branch version), 
together with a corrected French version of the splash.lyx file.


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--- lib/examples/splashOrig.lyx	2015-02-12 09:47:44.0 +0100
+++ lib/examples/splash.lyx	2015-02-12 09:48:03.0 +0100
@@ -111,7 +111,7 @@
 \begin_layout Enumerate
 The output from LyX looks great! Use the menu 
 \family sans
-View\SpecialChar \menuseparator
+Document\SpecialChar \menuseparator
 View
 \begin_inset space ~
 \end_inset


splash.lyx
Description: application/lyx

Re: Intro manual

2015-03-09 Thread Jean-Pierre Chrétien


Le 08/03/2015 11:41, Uwe Stöhr a écrit :


I try to keep the docs in sync. Only new stuff will go to master. So indeed, I
could have written to retrieve the docs from branch, but from which branch? The
branch changes from release to release while the master is always the master. So
I am a bit lazy to update the intro manual for every release ;-).


As I wrote in a previous mail :

Le 06/03/2015 10:41, Jean-Pierre Chrétien a écrit :
 Of course, a plain user who intends to improve the docs may not be aware of
 the status of the doc update for translators. so let's leave the Intro manual
 as it is, Uwe will manage the (I guess) few contributions which will be
 proposed.

So no change needed to the Intro manual, you may have a good vacation I hope :-)

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Warnings while exporting UserGuide to pdf

2015-03-26 Thread Jean-Pierre Chrétien


Hello,

I get a couple of warnings in the log  when I export the UserGuide to PDF:

Class scrbook Warning: Usage of package `fancyhdr' together
(scrbook)  with a KOMA-Script class is not recommended.
(scrbook)  I'd suggest to use
(scrbook)  package `scrpage2' or `scrlayer-scrpage'.
(scrbook)  Nevertheless, using requested
(scrbook)  package `fancyhdr' on input line 133.

Class scrbook Warning: Usage of deprecated font command `\bf'!
(scrbook)  You should note, that in 1994 font command `\bf' has
(scrbook)  been defined for compatiblitiy to Script 2.0 only.
(scrbook)  Now, after two decades of LaTeX2e and NFSS2, you
(scrbook)  shouldn't use such commands any longer and within
(scrbook)  KOMA-Script usage of `\bf' is definitely deprecated.
(scrbook)  See `fntguide.pdf' for more information about
(scrbook)  recommended font commands.
(scrbook)  Note also, that KOMA-Script will remove the definition
(scrbook)  of `\bf' anytime until release of about version 3.20.
(scrbook)  But for now, KOMA-Script will replace deprecated `\bf'
(scrbook)  by `\normalfont \bfseries ' on input line 1531.

In addition I get this in the calling command window:

libpng warning: iCCP: Not recognizing known sRGB profile that has been edited

These are hamless as the PDF is here all right, but...

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splash.lyx

2015-07-29 Thread Jean-Pierre Chrétien


Forget my preceding mail, the emitter was not the right one.


 Message transféré 
Sujet : splash.lyx
Date : Wed, 29 Jul 2015 16:18:14 +0200
De : Administrateur JdJ cont...@jardinsdejade.fr
Répondre à : cont...@jardinsdejade.fr
Pour : LyX Documentation Team lyx-docs@lists.lyx.org

Hello,

Please find attached two patches for splash.lyx in English and French, to edit
the error about viewing the PDF result.

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--- splashOrig.lyx	2015-02-12 09:47:44.0 +0100
+++ splash.lyx	2015-02-12 09:48:03.0 +0100
@@ -111,7 +111,7 @@
 \begin_layout Enumerate
 The output from LyX looks great! Use the menu 
 \family sans
-View\SpecialChar \menuseparator
+Document\SpecialChar \menuseparator
 View
 \begin_inset space ~
 \end_inset

--- splash.lyx~	2014-11-19 14:06:06.0 +0100
+++ splash.lyx	2015-02-12 09:44:00.0 +0100
@@ -116,7 +116,7 @@
 \begin_layout Enumerate
 Les rÃ©sultats de mise en page de LyX sont trÃ¨s esthÃ©tiques! Faites 
 \family sans
-Affichage\SpecialChar \menuseparator
+Document\SpecialChar \menuseparator
 Visionner
 \begin_inset space ~
 \end_inset
@@ -125,7 +125,7 @@
 \begin_inset space ~
 \end_inset
 
-(pdflatex] 
+(pdflatex)] 
 \family default
 ou cliquez maintenant sur le bouton 
 \begin_inset Info

LyX Web site

2009-04-28 Thread Jean-Pierre Chrétien


Hello,

I recently begun the translation of the site to French, and I have a 
suggestion: use  instead of -- wherever it happens (currently I 
found some in http://www.lyx.org/WhatIsLyX ).


Regards

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Re: LyX Web site

2009-04-29 Thread Jean-Pierre Chrétien


Helge Hafting a écrit :

Jean-Pierre ChrÃ©tien wrote:

Hello,

I recently begun the translation of the site to French, and I have a 
suggestion: use  instead of -- wherever it happens (currently I 
found some in http://www.lyx.org/WhatIsLyX ).


When you use "--" in LyX, an endash happens in the output, and "---" 
turns into emdash. This is why some LyX users use "--" now and then.


Sure, I use it myself.
But unless pmwiki provides a similar mechanism, as Jean-Marc suggested,
HTML entities are required in the web site.

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Re: To translators of the web site. SiteTranslation now a bit better

2009-06-23 Thread Jean-Pierre Chrétien


Christian Ridderström a écrit :

Hi,

I've fiddled (more than I expected, guess I'm rusty), and the page

http://www.lyx.org/SiteTranslation

now should show translated pages in _red_ if the corresponding english 
page has been edited more recently. In case the translated page has been 
edited more recently, it's shown in green.


Well done, Christian, thanks.

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Re: Offre d'aide

2009-07-12 Thread Jean-Pierre Chrétien


frederic.steve...@ac-amiens.fr a écrit :

Bonjour,

J'utilise LyX depuis quelques années, par intermittence. 
En retour, je peux vous proposer mes services, 
même si mes compétences ne sont pas bien grandes : 

>je ne programme pas, mais je peux traduire, par exemple,
>corriger des documents en français (syntaxe, grammaire, typographie, 
vocabulaire).


Si vous pensez que je puisse être d'une quelconque utilité, n'hésitez pas.



Merci pour votre proposition, mais la langue d'usage de lyx-docs est 
l'anglais, il existe la liste lyx-fr spécifique au français:

lyx-fr at lists.lyx.org

So I will forward your mail on lyx-fr and answer there.

Thanks and regards.

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Web site translation: how to use SVN

2009-07-24 Thread Jean-Pierre Chrétien


Hello,

While translating this page in French, these sentences

This is the new development and stable branch. The development will 
progress in branches and the main trunk will stay stable.


were unclear to me.

I suggest

This is the new development and stable branch. The development will 
progress in the main trunk and the stable successive versions can be 
found in "branches". The most recent branches/BRANCH_X_X_X directory is 
however still active to provide maintenance releases of the current 
stable version.


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Braille example in French

2009-08-18 Thread Jean-Pierre Chrétien


Hello,

Attached is a tentative Freanch version of the Braille example.

I am not a specialist of Braille, but I feel that Braille support
in LyX for French suffers from the limitations of Braille support in 
LaTeX for foreign languages (the Maj modifier is not the same in English 
Braille and in French Braille e.g.).


In addition
 - active characters in French babel do not work in the Braille 
commands, I tried to add english encaspsulation to avoid LaTeX errors 
without success;

 - the French guillemets (set in Document->Settings->Language) do not work.

About the latter, it seems that this is a recent regression in branch 
w.r.t 1.6.3. I thought first that it was due to the fact that the doc is 
Unicode in LaTeX, but it is true with a fresh article doc. Any ticket 
about this ?



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Braille.lyx
Description: application/lyx

Re: Braille example in French

2009-08-19 Thread Jean-Pierre Chrétien


Uwe Stöhr a écrit :
> Jean-Pierre Chrétien schrieb:
[...]
> The Braille package only supports English. For all language-specific 
characters you have to use the braillebox environment.
> Can you please add a sentence that this is also the case for the 
French Maj modifier?


Attached is an updated version.

>
>> In addition
>>  - active characters in French babel do not work in the Braille
>
> Same problem as above, Braille doesn't take care of language-specific 
things and thus also not of babel.


Corrected in the preamble. Btw, why are the greyed notes in Braille 
style ? I loose the guillemets there when I fall back to english babel 
to avoid active chars.


>
>>  - the French guillemets (set in Document->Settings->Language) do 
not work.

>
> Works fine there with today's branch build.

Right, in fact svn up && make is not enough to refresh lyx, I will run 
the full update command in the future.


Regards

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Jean-Pierre



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Hello,

po-upda...@lyx.org seems to be down...
Any clue ?

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Jean-Pierre


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French translation of the web site

2009-10-07 Thread Jean-Pierre Chrétien


Hello,

The translation is quite complete and up to date, thanks to Siegfried 
and Alain:

http://www.lyx.org/SiteTranslation#toc5

Is there a way to display the French pages if the browser is 
French-speaking ?


--
Jean-Pierre

Re: French translation of the web site

2009-10-08 Thread Jean-Pierre Chrétien


Christian Ridderström a écrit :

On Wed, 7 Oct 2009, Jean-Marc Lasgouttes wrote:


Jean-Pierre Chrétien <jeanpierre.chret...@free.fr> writes:



Is there a way to display the French pages if the browser is
French-speaking ?


I have proposed this in the past, but Christian was not sure he wanted
it. I still think we should (at least for languages that are considered
to be complete enough)


By now I've forgotten any objections I might have had, so for me it's 
fine. Of course, I've also completely forgotten how this would be 
implemented...   I'm rather busy so if either you do it, or I'm given 
some algorithm.


AFAIR, needs directives on the server side.
LyX pretends that the server name is none of my business :-(
If it's Apache, language negotiation  may be on by default:

AddLanguage da .dk
AddLanguage nl .nl
AddLanguage en .en
AddLanguage et .et
AddLanguage fr .fr
AddLanguage de .de
AddLanguage he .he
...

but the mechanism does not seem compatible with pmwiki, as it requires
pages in different languages to have suffices like .fr, .de, etc.

I guess that this was the problem that raised objections from you at the 
time. Forget about my suggestion.


--
Jean-Pierre

Re: fr.po for branch + Intro.lyx

2009-11-17 Thread Jean-Pierre Chrétien


Jürgen Spitzmüller a écrit :



However, your new version has the following diff:

- Il y a aussi une site de référence pour les traductions en français, sur
- laquelle vous pouvez télécharger les fichiers les plus récents
+ Il y a aussi une site de référence pour les traductions en français

Should this go in?


No, I simplified the phrase a bit (to account for the fact that the 
current version of the docs are now published on the wiki), but
we may publish there prereleases of the lyx-2.0 docs, so you can leave 
it as it is.


--
Jean-Pierre

Re: xypic.lyx in French update

2009-11-27 Thread Jean-Pierre Chrétien


Uwe Stöhr a écrit :

One tip: When you need to use a multiplication sign like in "3x3" 
matrix, you can insert it via the menu Insert->Special 
Character->Symbols. I therefore replaced the formula with this sign in 
your file.


I followed the chktex hints and typed in \times in Math. To use your 
tip, you must know which alphabet to parse: here I have Latin-1 
supplement as default, and I had to display all characters and to parse 
them carefully to find out a x sign in Casseau. Is that the right one ?


--
Jean-Pierre

powerdot-example

2009-11-29 Thread Jean-Pierre Chrétien


Hello,

Please find attached a French translation of the powerdot-example file, 
named exemple-powerdot.lyx.


I removed the \usepackage{listings} command in the premable, as I guess 
that it is no more needed since listings has been intefaced with LyX.


I get some warnings in the command window, like:
Counter section does not exist.
step: Counter does not exist: subsection


--
Jean-Pierre



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Re: How to update fr.po in trunk

2009-11-29 Thread Jean-Pierre Chrétien


Jürgen Spitzmüller a écrit :

Jean-Pierre Chrétien wrote:

Is it correct to merge fr.po in trunk and fr.po in branch like this
to backport my branch updates in trunk ?


I usually do this manually, using Lokalize (the KDE 4 po editor), which 
provides nifty abilities to sync/merge two po files. You can select branch's 
fr.po as "secondary sync source", navigate through all messages that are 
different there and directly copy them to trunk's po file.


I could do this with XEmacs po-mode, but I went to poedit when the 
po-files were converted to UTF-8.


I run Debian stable, KDE-4 is not available so I can't use loKalize. I 
guess I will test the msgmerge path, seems efficient as it found
53-17 = 36 messages in branch that came translated in trunk (these come 
from string changes committed both in branch and in trunk).
I guess also that most of the 257-143=114 new fuzzies come from the 
branch file unification steps.


--
Jean-Pierre

Re: powerdot-example

2009-11-30 Thread Jean-Pierre Chrétien


Jürgen Spitzmüller a écrit :

Jean-Pierre Chrétien wrote:



I doubt so. Are you sure you're really using that file?


Sorry, I think I get confused between the two versions of 
exemple-powerdot.lyx, I get your errors all right when I copy the file I 
attached to my mail into the temporary.


--
Jean-Pierre

Re: Layout for a letter (in French)

2009-12-01 Thread Jean-Pierre Chrétien


Uwe Stöhr a écrit :

Jean-Pierre Chrétien schrieb:





Some remarks:

- the layout file doesn't follow our layout file style and is in the 
quite old format 4


OK, I will check this


- you use a lot of preamble code in the layout file, it this really needed?


I didn't write the code, I guess it is needed to be able to type in the 
various elements of the letter in any order, I will review it.



- in the preamble of the LyX example file you load the packages
  * lmodern - this is unnecessary because the user can decide in the 
document settings what font to use


Right.

  * itemsep - this is not necessary as the file doesn't contain items. 
(When you really want to have no item separation, don't load this style 
file but set the length \itemsep to "0pt".)


Right.

- you used the LaTeX class "lettre" for your layout file. What about the 
other letter document classes LyX already supports? dinbrief and 
g-brief2 are in German but its strings can easily be translated to 
French. have you already had a look if support for them might be useful?


Yes, these letter layouts do not follow the French presentation of 
letters. I guess this is the reason why there are several German 
alternatives to the letter layout.


--
Jean-Pierre

Example file seminar.lyx translation in French

2009-12-02 Thread Jean-Pierre Chrétien


Hello,

Please find attached a French translation of the example.

Note that the English version suffers from the bug described in the last 
slide: a4paper appears a class option, so that the complilation fails 
with earlier versions of seminar. I suppressed it in the translated 
file. In addition I find the explanation unclear, I would suggest:


...in the menu Document->Settings->Page Layout set the Paper Size to 
“a4” (unless it is the  default layout of your LaTeX distribution) and 
remove "a4paper"...


The first note says nothing about PDF (ps2pdf). Here I find it better 
than dvipdfm: the third slide does not appear rotated.


Finally, I think that the layout could be modified to get the 
slideheadings next to the slide control styles. I guess this will wait 
1.6.6.


--
Jean-Pierre


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Re: powerdot-example

2009-12-02 Thread Jean-Pierre Chrétien


Ignacio Garcia a écrit :



This issue remains too: the author names don't appear in the
pdf output. It happens also with the English version in branch.
Is it true for you?

Putting the LyX note in the Title environment, beside "A LyX sample",
fix it here.


Right, here is an updated version of the French translation.

--
Jean-Pierre



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Re: Beamer example update

2009-12-05 Thread Jean-Pierre Chrétien


Jürgen Spitzmüller a écrit :

Jean-Pierre Chrétien wrote:

I see that the English and German Beamer templates are updated.
Do I have time to update also the French template ?


If you can send it very quick (within the next hours), I can consider it.


Here it is.

--
Jean-Pierre


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