Re: LyX 2.3.6 Windows Installer

[Yu Jin]

Am Fr., 4. Dez. 2020 um 04:31 Uhr schrieb Richard Kimberly Heck <
rikih...@lyx.org>:

> On 12/3/20 3:49 PM, Bert Lloyd wrote:
> > Thanks to all for your work on this update.
> >
> > I have a few custom modules in my AppData, will these be affected by
> > uninstalling my previous release? If so, is there a recommended way to
> > back them up or restore them?
>
Just don't enable "LyX's users preferences" when uninstalling the old LyX,
that way your user folder will not be deleted. Then install the new LyX and
your modules should still be there.

>
> I don't think the installer will delete them, but you may need to copy
> them over manually to the new user directory (if there is one). Of
> course, it's probably a good idea to back these up before installing the
> new version. And regularly for any reason.
>
 Actually, since it is still LyX2.3, there is no need to copy anything. It
should work out of the box if the preferences are not chosen to be deleted
when uninstalling old LyX. The installer does not delete anything in
AppData, if it gets deleted then only by the uninstaller.

>
> >
> > Many thanks,
> > BL
> >
> > PS - LyX 2.3.5.2 with MikTeX 2.9 on Windows 10 Ed
> >
> > On Wed, Dec 2, 2020 at 1:32 PM Richard Kimberly Heck 
> wrote:
> >> As noted in the announcement of LyX 2.3.6, there is now an updated
> >> installer available for Windows, including a 64 bit version. In order to
> >> update to 2.3.6 on Windows using the new installer, you should uninstall
> >> the previous 2.3 releases using the uninstaller or from within the
> >> control panel/Windows settings beforehand. Make sure to not install LyX
> >> 2.3.6 into an existing LyX directory by choosing an empty folder for the
> >> installation.


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Re: LyX 2.3.6 Windows Installer

[Richard Kimberly Heck]

On 12/3/20 3:49 PM, Bert Lloyd wrote:
> Thanks to all for your work on this update.
>
> I have a few custom modules in my AppData, will these be affected by
> uninstalling my previous release? If so, is there a recommended way to
> back them up or restore them?

I don't think the installer will delete them, but you may need to copy
them over manually to the new user directory (if there is one). Of
course, it's probably a good idea to back these up before installing the
new version. And regularly for any reason.

Riki


>
> Many thanks,
> BL
>
> PS - LyX 2.3.5.2 with MikTeX 2.9 on Windows 10 Ed
>
> On Wed, Dec 2, 2020 at 1:32 PM Richard Kimberly Heck  wrote:
>> As noted in the announcement of LyX 2.3.6, there is now an updated
>> installer available for Windows, including a 64 bit version. In order to
>> update to 2.3.6 on Windows using the new installer, you should uninstall
>> the previous 2.3 releases using the uninstaller or from within the
>> control panel/Windows settings beforehand. Make sure to not install LyX
>> 2.3.6 into an existing LyX directory by choosing an empty folder for the
>> installation.
>>
>> Riki
>>
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Re: LyX 2.3.6 Windows Installer

[Bert Lloyd]

Thanks to all for your work on this update.

I have a few custom modules in my AppData, will these be affected by
uninstalling my previous release? If so, is there a recommended way to
back them up or restore them?

Many thanks,
BL

PS - LyX 2.3.5.2 with MikTeX 2.9 on Windows 10 Ed

On Wed, Dec 2, 2020 at 1:32 PM Richard Kimberly Heck  wrote:
>
> As noted in the announcement of LyX 2.3.6, there is now an updated
> installer available for Windows, including a 64 bit version. In order to
> update to 2.3.6 on Windows using the new installer, you should uninstall
> the previous 2.3 releases using the uninstaller or from within the
> control panel/Windows settings beforehand. Make sure to not install LyX
> 2.3.6 into an existing LyX directory by choosing an empty folder for the
> installation.
>
> Riki
>
>
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LyX 2.3.6 Windows Installer

[Richard Kimberly Heck]

As noted in the announcement of LyX 2.3.6, there is now an updated
installer available for Windows, including a 64 bit version. In order to
update to 2.3.6 on Windows using the new installer, you should uninstall
the previous 2.3 releases using the uninstaller or from within the
control panel/Windows settings beforehand. Make sure to not install LyX
2.3.6 into an existing LyX directory by choosing an empty folder for the
installation.

Riki


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Re: Virus in Windows Installer: LyX-232-2-Installer-10.exe

[Pavel Sanda]

On Wed, Jan 23, 2019 at 06:43:43AM +0100, Benoît Penelle wrote:
> Hello,
> 
> There seems to be viruses (or suspicion of) in the last windows installer :
> https://www.virustotal.com/#/file/817b9e9e2cf466cadd5ff82036a2d2c7646d63864ba1210c673f67c2e8d555b9/detection

You mean 3 (none of them major one) out of 66 antivirus toolkits, reports 
suspiction or virus.
Given the history of false alarms on this list, my guess is that it speaks 
rather against those
few toolkits than against the current lyx win installer...

Pavel

Virus in Windows Installer: LyX-232-2-Installer-10.exe

[Benoît Penelle]

Hello,

There seems to be viruses (or suspicion of) in the last windows installer :
https://www.virustotal.com/#/file/817b9e9e2cf466cadd5ff82036a2d2c7646d63864ba1210c673f67c2e8d555b9/detection

Regards,
Ben

[ANNOUNCE] Windows Installer Update

[Richard Kimberly Heck]

Due to a packaging error, the version of LyX 2.3.0 installed by the
'004' installer will not preview jpg or tiff files. An updated installer
has therefore been uploaded. Users who want or need such previews can
either install the new version or follow the instructions from this bug
report:

    https://www.lyx.org/trac/ticket/11186#comment:17

Thanks to everyone who worked to correct this problem.

RE: [ANNOUNCE] Windows Installer for 2.3.0

[Baris Erkus]

Thanks to all who put their valuable time into this gem. 



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From: lyx-users@lists.lyx.org  on behalf of Jean-Marc 
Lasgouttes 
Sent: Monday, July 9, 2018 9:20:03 PM
To: lyx-annou...@lists.lyx.org; lyx-users@lists.lyx.org
Subject: [ANNOUNCE] Windows Installer for 2.3.0

Public release of LyX version 2.3.0 Windows Installer


We are pleased to be able to announce the release of Windows
installers for LyX 2.3.0.

Due to a bug in MiKTeX, installation of LyX 2.3.0 can sometimes
cause the MiKTeX installation to be corrupted. We highly recommend
that MiKTeX users update to the latest version *before* installing LyX
2.3.0. (If you run into problems, the solution will be to uninstall MiKTeX
and then re-install.)

(See https://github.com/MiKTeX/miktex/issues/82 for more info.)

Below is the original announcement for 2.3.0.

Public release of LyX version 2.3.0
==

With this release, LyX celebrates 22 years of existence. The 2.3 series
has a rich set of new features compared to the current stable series.

LyX 2.3.0 is the culmination of two years of hard work. An overview
of the new features can be found here:
   https://wiki.lyx.org/LyX/NewInLyX23

You can download LyX 2.3.0 from https://www.lyx.org/Download/.

For Windows users, if you installed a pre-release of LyX 2.3.0, you
should uninstall that version before installing this newer release.

We hope you will enjoy the result!

If a file from an earlier version of LyX is opened *and saved* with
any version of 2.3.x, then the original file will automatically be
backed up. The backup file will be found in the backup directory, if one
is set under Tools> Preferences> Paths, or else in the same folder as
the original file, if no backup directory is set. The filename of the
backup file will be:
 ORIGNAME-lyxformat-NUM.lyx~
where NUM is the LyX format number of the original file. In the case of
a 2.2.x file, this will be 508, but in the case of older files it will be
different.

The file lib/RELEASE-NOTES lists some known issues and problems compared
to the current stable releases (LyX 2.2.x). We strongly recommend that
packagers of LyX on various platforms and distributions read this file.

As with any major release, this one comes with a lot of new features but
also some bugs. If you think you have found a bug in LyX 2.3.0, either
email the LyX developers' mailing list (lyx-devel at lists.lyx.org),
or open a bug report at https://www.lyx.org/trac/wiki/BugTrackerHome .
Please specify if the behavior you are reporting is different from behavior
in a previous LyX version.

If you have trouble using LyX or have a question, consult the
documentation that comes with LyX (under Help) and the LyX wiki, which you
will find at https://wiki.lyx.org/. You can also send email to the LyX
users'
list (lyx-users at lists.lyx.org).

The LyX team.
https://www.lyx.org

[ANNOUNCE] Windows Installer for 2.3.0

[Jean-Marc Lasgouttes]

Public release of LyX version 2.3.0 Windows Installer


We are pleased to be able to announce the release of Windows
installers for LyX 2.3.0.

Due to a bug in MiKTeX, installation of LyX 2.3.0 can sometimes
cause the MiKTeX installation to be corrupted. We highly recommend
that MiKTeX users update to the latest version *before* installing LyX
2.3.0. (If you run into problems, the solution will be to uninstall MiKTeX
and then re-install.)

(See https://github.com/MiKTeX/miktex/issues/82 for more info.)

Below is the original announcement for 2.3.0.

Public release of LyX version 2.3.0
==

With this release, LyX celebrates 22 years of existence. The 2.3 series
has a rich set of new features compared to the current stable series.

LyX 2.3.0 is the culmination of two years of hard work. An overview
of the new features can be found here:
  https://wiki.lyx.org/LyX/NewInLyX23

You can download LyX 2.3.0 from https://www.lyx.org/Download/.

For Windows users, if you installed a pre-release of LyX 2.3.0, you
should uninstall that version before installing this newer release.

We hope you will enjoy the result!

If a file from an earlier version of LyX is opened *and saved* with
any version of 2.3.x, then the original file will automatically be
backed up. The backup file will be found in the backup directory, if one
is set under Tools> Preferences> Paths, or else in the same folder as
the original file, if no backup directory is set. The filename of the
backup file will be:
ORIGNAME-lyxformat-NUM.lyx~
where NUM is the LyX format number of the original file. In the case of
a 2.2.x file, this will be 508, but in the case of older files it will be
different.

The file lib/RELEASE-NOTES lists some known issues and problems compared
to the current stable releases (LyX 2.2.x). We strongly recommend that
packagers of LyX on various platforms and distributions read this file.

As with any major release, this one comes with a lot of new features but
also some bugs. If you think you have found a bug in LyX 2.3.0, either
email the LyX developers' mailing list (lyx-devel at lists.lyx.org),
or open a bug report at https://www.lyx.org/trac/wiki/BugTrackerHome .
Please specify if the behavior you are reporting is different from behavior
in a previous LyX version.

If you have trouble using LyX or have a question, consult the
documentation that comes with LyX (under Help) and the LyX wiki, which you
will find at https://wiki.lyx.org/. You can also send email to the LyX
users'
list (lyx-users at lists.lyx.org).

The LyX team.
https://www.lyx.org

Re: Feedback on dialog for Windows installer (round 2)

[Andrew Parsloe]

On 3/04/2018 11:31 a.m., Scott Kostyshak wrote:

I propose to change the first part to something like:
   Your MiKTeX installation must be updated in order for LyX 2.3.0 to
   work. Choose "Continue" to ...

Then, we will give a link to a Wiki page, as discussed before.

This will allow us to keep the main dialog clear, but at the same time
provide extra details for the power users.

What do you think about that approach? If you and others disagree, I'm
fine with specifying the version number required, and in that case I
agree with you that specifying the dates instead of the repository
number is a good idea.

Scott

I like the proposed wording.

Andrew

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Re: Feedback on dialog for Windows installer (round 2)

[Scott Kostyshak]

On Mon, Apr 02, 2018 at 07:17:57AM +, Baris Erkus wrote:

> I have seen many posts to TeX SE, where users encounters this sort of issues. 
> Most of the time, waiting one or two days solves the issue, which I believe 
> MikTeX developer(s) fix the associated problem.

I've seen many posts like this also. Searching for "[miktex] update" on
tex.se, there are many such posts.

> So, as a conclusion,  my suggestion is not incorporate MikTeX update into LyX 
> setup, and leave that responsibility of having a working (Mik)TeX system to 
> the user in the first place.

I can see why you would prefer that. MiKTeX is such a (in my opinion,
necessarily) complicated system. You are right that the goal of updating
MiKTeX automatically is to save the average user from doing those steps
themselves. I have heard some negative experiences from users, e.g. that
the update does not work or as you mentioned the mirror is not working.
However, I have also heard a lot of positive responses from users for
whom the 2.3.0 installer has worked very well with no issue at all.

> PS: Even if LyX is not changed this way, I hope the detailed experience I 
> give above is helpful for the developers. Sorry for the long post.

Thank you for taking the time to write up your post. I found it helpful
and learned more about MiKTeX. As for the long post, no problem at all,
although (just my personal opinion) I would find it helpful for the
sentences to be organized in paragraphs.

Thank you for this feedback, Barış!

Scott


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Re: Feedback on dialog for Windows installer (round 2)

[Scott Kostyshak]

On Mon, Apr 02, 2018 at 02:38:58PM +, V K wrote:
> Sentence "For most users, choosing "Continue" is the appropriate choice." 
> sounds definately better. But I am not inexperienced user and for me minimum 
> information why should I continue (but more specific than only "LyX 
> requires") is better. A lot of detales would be too complex. "More details" 
> with some information (one sentence about broken installation and link to 
> wiki) would be ideal: who want can go to wiki and read detales, one sentence 
> for not so curious and possibility not to read any burdensome information for 
> totally inexperienced users. Happines for all :).

Sounds good. Thanks for your feedback!

Scott


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Re: Feedback on dialog for Windows installer (round 2)

[Scott Kostyshak]

On Mon, Apr 02, 2018 at 03:02:02AM +, Andrew Parsloe wrote:
> Dear Scott,
> 
> MiKTeX 2.9 has been available since 2010 and the *only* version available
> since 2014; see https://miktex.org/releases. Hence the message in your
> proposed dialogue
> 
>     LyX requires MiKTeX 2.9 or later. Your version is X.X.
>     Choose "Continue" to automatically update MiKTeX now,
>     or "Cancel" to stop the LyX installation. If you do not
>     understand this message, you should choose "Continue".
> 
>                                     Cancel      Continue
> 
> doesn't make much sense (to me). It is the package repository number that is
> critical, currently at 6664 at time of writing (see https://miktex.org/
> under Package Repository) but I don't know what that was at the time the
> update problem arose and in any case it is likely to be confusing to an
> average user.
> 
> I think it would be better to use a date: "LyX requires MiKTeX 2.9 updated
> later than /mm/dd" (and that format of date to avoid ambiguity around
> dd/mm/ versus mm/dd/). Presumably the date can be found from Uwe's
> announcements to lyx-devel.

Thanks for the feedback, Andrew and for pointing out the issue with the
message above. After thinking about this for a bit, I don't think the
average user will actually care what their version number is or what the
required version number is. All they need to know is that MiKTeX needs
to be updated. For advanced users who might be interested in that
information, we can give it in the details on the Wiki page. For
example, on the Wiki page we can list the technical package repository
number that is required, and we can specify the steps to see what
package repository number you're currently at.

So I propose to change the first part to something like:

  Your MiKTeX installation must be updated in order for LyX 2.3.0 to
  work. Choose "Continue" to ...

Then, we will give a link to a Wiki page, as discussed before.

This will allow us to keep the main dialog clear, but at the same time
provide extra details for the power users.

What do you think about that approach? If you and others disagree, I'm
fine with specifying the version number required, and in that case I
agree with you that specifying the dates instead of the repository
number is a good idea.

Scott


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Re: Feedback on dialog for Windows installer (round 2)

[V K]

Sentence "For most users, choosing "Continue" is the appropriate choice." 
sounds definately better. But I am not inexperienced user and for me minimum 
information why should I continue (but more specific than only "LyX requires") 
is better. A lot of detales would be too complex. "More details" with some 
information (one sentence about broken installation and link to wiki) would be 
ideal: who want can go to wiki and read detales, one sentence for not so 
curious and possibility not to read any burdensome information for totally 
inexperienced users. Happines for all :).




   

RE: Feedback on dialog for Windows installer (round 2)

[Baris Erkus]

Hello,



I want to join to this discussion again and would like to clarify my previous 
post that had suggested a totally different approach.



I am a very frequent user of MikTeX in the sense that I update it almost weekly 
basis.



MikTeX is a very “good” TeX system but sometimes it acts awkward.



For example, sometimes the mirror that has been set to be used is not working. 
You have to quit the updater and use another program to select a working mirror.



Sometimes, it gives some error out of nowhere and nothing can be updated. I 
have to wait one or two days, and when I retry to update it just works fine.



Sometimes, I need to do several consecutive updates to achieve a successful 
update and to be sure the system updated correctly, and I have to restart my 
windows.



Sometimes, I just feel that I have to restart my PC after an update to get it 
right because Windows (e.g. version 10) is also changing frequently (e.g. admin 
policies) due to its new approach of updating.



Sometimes, although many packages are available for update, MikTeX will not 
update them but make an update to MikTeX itself. İf this is the case, I need to 
re-run the updater to update the packages.



Sometimes, I download packages to my PC and update them from the PC without 
using Internet. This also happens if I have some issue with my PC’s internet…



In one case, when I updated MikTeX, it removed the setting of the local TeX 
folders, which I had to setup again.



There are other cases, where MikTeX looks like updated correctly and without an 
issue, but in fact, it will not run correctly.



I have seen many posts to TeX SE, where users encounters this sort of issues. 
Most of the time, waiting one or two days solves the issue, which I believe 
MikTeX developer(s) fix the associated problem.



With the new version of MikTeX, I can see that  the updater, package manager 
and configurer are all collected in a new GUI called “MikTeX console” (at least 
just last week I saw it), and I can see that some of the features of the 
previous GUI are not transferred to the new GUI. Maybe update process will be 
more smooth from now on…



In overall, MikTeX update “most of the time” is efficient, but there are cases, 
where the user needs to do additional attempts/operations to complete it. This 
requires a level of understanding TeX, LaTeX and MikTeX.



Similar to MikTeX, I also like to follow the updates of LyX and use them 
whenever they are available.



In the past, I intended to use MikTeX update feature of LyX several times, and 
just by chance I encounter one of the issues listed above that required 
additional steps to complete MikTeX update.



Therefore, I had to cancel LyX update in all of these cases. This was more 
problematic, because it gives the feeling that I may have messed up with LyX 
installation.



After these experiences, I have never used LyX feature of updating MikTeX, and 
whenever I am updating LyX, I first update MikTeX separately.  If there is 
something work with MikTeX, although it looks like it is updated correctly, I 
go back o basic and fix it by running simple “hello world” type .tex documents 
on editor-type programs (e.g. TeXMaker, WinEdt).



I understand that the intend of LyX is make sure that the user does not get 
into the LaTeX, TeX or MikTeX, particulary for new and novice users. However, 
they will eventually need to understand the basics of LaTeX and MikTeX, to 
juggle around when they want to do more things in LaTeX.



I also understand that it would be really convenient for the first time users 
of LyX to have this feature, but the possibilities of having additional 
operations and users canceling LyX setup should also be evaluated.



So, as a conclusion,  my suggestion is not incorporate MikTeX update into LyX 
setup, and leave that responsibility of having a working (Mik)TeX system to the 
user in the first place.



Bests,



BE



PS: Even if LyX is not changed this way, I hope the detailed experience I give 
above is helpful for the developers. Sorry for the long post.











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From: lyx-users@lists.lyx.org <lyx-users@lists.lyx.org> on behalf of Scott 
Kostyshak <skost...@lyx.org>
Sent: Saturday, March 31, 2018 8:38:43 PM
To: LyX Users
Subject: Feedback on dialog for Windows installer (round 2)

Dear all,

I have two separate questions:

1. If no edits are made to the following dialog, do you believe the
dialog would be confusing to the *average* LyX user on Windows during
the LyX 2.3.0 installation process?

LyX requires MiKTeX 2.9 or later. Your version is X.X.
Choose "Continue" to automatically update MiKTeX now,
or "Cancel" to stop the LyX installation. If you do not
understand this message, you should choose "Continue".

Cancel   Continue

Re: Feedback on dialog for Windows installer (round 2)

[Andrew Parsloe]

Dear Scott,

MiKTeX 2.9 has been available since 2010 and the *only* version 
available since 2014; see https://miktex.org/releases. Hence the message 
in your proposed dialogue


    LyX requires MiKTeX 2.9 or later. Your version is X.X.
    Choose "Continue" to automatically update MiKTeX now,
    or "Cancel" to stop the LyX installation. If you do not
    understand this message, you should choose "Continue".

                                    Cancel      Continue

doesn't make much sense (to me). It is the package repository number 
that is critical, currently at 6664 at time of writing (see 
https://miktex.org/ under Package Repository) but I don't know what that 
was at the time the update problem arose and in any case it is likely to 
be confusing to an average user.


I think it would be better to use a date: "LyX requires MiKTeX 2.9 
updated later than /mm/dd" (and that format of date to avoid 
ambiguity around dd/mm/ versus mm/dd/). Presumably the date can 
be found from Uwe's announcements to lyx-devel.


Andrew



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Re: Feedback on dialog for Windows installer (round 2)

[Michael Berger]

Hello Scott,

the message under #1 sounds clear and unambiguously to.

Michael


On 01.04.2018 15:05, V K wrote:
Message is quite clear, but "If you do not understand this message, 
you should choose "Continue"." says too little and indirectly states, 
that user is dumb. I've read previous thread and discussion in 
lyx-devel. Maybe this sentence can be replayced with warning about not 
working LyX? Something like "Not upgrading MiKTeX can leave LyX in not 
working condition" ("can broke LyX" would be more simple to 
understand, but isn't correct technically, as I understand). This 
sentence informs user, why it should upgrade, not only urges to 
upgrade. Such warning can be compromise with Uwe too, I think :).


And congratulations with release of such good program.

Valdemaras


On Saturday, March 31, 2018 8:39 PM, Scott Kostyshak 
 wrote:



Dear all,

I have two separate questions:

1. If no edits are made to the following dialog, do you believe the
dialog would be confusing to the *average* LyX user on Windows during
the LyX 2.3.0 installation process?

    LyX requires MiKTeX 2.9 or later. Your version is X.X.
    Choose "Continue" to automatically update MiKTeX now,
    or "Cancel" to stop the LyX installation. If you do not
    understand this message, you should choose "Continue".

                                    Cancel      Continue


2. Do you have any suggested edits to improve the clarity of the above
message to the *average* LyX user on Windows?

Note that this email follows a previous thread [1]. If you did not
follow that thread, no problem at all since it would be good to have a
fresh view.

Thank you for your help!

Scott


[1] 
https://www.mail-archive.com/search?l=mid=20180313221335.6asbmcrohug4rrzf%40steph

Re: Feedback on dialog for Windows installer (round 2)

[Scott Kostyshak]

On Sun, Apr 01, 2018 at 04:08:30PM +, Richard Kimberly Heck wrote:
> On 04/01/2018 12:02 PM, Scott Kostyshak wrote:
> > On Sun, Apr 01, 2018 at 01:05:18PM +, V K wrote:
> >> I've read previous thread and discussion in lyx-devel. Maybe this sentence 
> >> can be replayced with warning about not working LyX? Something like "Not 
> >> upgrading MiKTeX can leave LyX in not working condition" ("can broke LyX" 
> >> would be more simple to understand, but isn't correct technically, as I 
> >> understand).
> > We attempted to give that information in the first sentence
> >
> >   LyX requires MiKTeX 2.9 or later.
> >
> > We do not explain, e.g., why LyX requires a newer MiKTeX, in order to
> > keep the message as simple as possible to avoid confusion. Perhaps we
> > could have a "more details" button where we give a longer explanation.
> > Do you think a "more details" button would be a good idea?
> 
> What about a link to a web (wiki) page with more infomation for those
> who want it?

I think that's a good idea. Further, it would allow us to update the
wiki page easily to add more information. I don't know if it is easy to
add a hyperlink in such a dialog. If not, we should make sure that the
text in the dialog is selectable so it is easy to copy/paste.

Scott


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Re: Feedback on dialog for Windows installer (round 2)

[Richard Kimberly Heck]

On 04/01/2018 12:02 PM, Scott Kostyshak wrote:
> On Sun, Apr 01, 2018 at 01:05:18PM +, V K wrote:
>> I've read previous thread and discussion in lyx-devel. Maybe this sentence 
>> can be replayced with warning about not working LyX? Something like "Not 
>> upgrading MiKTeX can leave LyX in not working condition" ("can broke LyX" 
>> would be more simple to understand, but isn't correct technically, as I 
>> understand).
> We attempted to give that information in the first sentence
>
>   LyX requires MiKTeX 2.9 or later.
>
> We do not explain, e.g., why LyX requires a newer MiKTeX, in order to
> keep the message as simple as possible to avoid confusion. Perhaps we
> could have a "more details" button where we give a longer explanation.
> Do you think a "more details" button would be a good idea?

What about a link to a web (wiki) page with more infomation for those
who want it?

Riki

Re: Feedback on dialog for Windows installer (round 2)

[Scott Kostyshak]

On Sun, Apr 01, 2018 at 01:05:18PM +, V K wrote:
> Message is quite clear, but "If you do not understand this message, you 
> should choose "Continue"." says too little and indirectly states, that user 
> is dumb.

Another Windows user I talked to in person said the same thing. They
said that they personally found it funny, but that others might find it
as you said as offending their intelligence.

We can experiment with different phrases containing the same
information. For example, the following could be a replacement:

  For most users, choosing "Continue" is the appropriate choice.

I'm also fine with removing it, if others prefer. The goal was to
provide some advice for users who do not know what MiKTeX is and are
unsure what to do.

> I've read previous thread and discussion in lyx-devel. Maybe this sentence 
> can be replayced with warning about not working LyX? Something like "Not 
> upgrading MiKTeX can leave LyX in not working condition" ("can broke LyX" 
> would be more simple to understand, but isn't correct technically, as I 
> understand).

We attempted to give that information in the first sentence

  LyX requires MiKTeX 2.9 or later.

We do not explain, e.g., why LyX requires a newer MiKTeX, in order to
keep the message as simple as possible to avoid confusion. Perhaps we
could have a "more details" button where we give a longer explanation.
Do you think a "more details" button would be a good idea?

> This sentence informs user, why it should upgrade, not only urges to upgrade. 
> Such warning can be compromise with Uwe too, I think :).

If Uwe preferred a phrase like the one you suggested, I would be fine
with it. I'm not sure that's his preference though. But I should not
make a guess. Uwe, do you agree with V K or have any suggestions on what
a clear message would be? I know you do not agree with adding a message,
but I would really appreciate your advice.

Thanks for your help, V K!

Scott


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Re: Feedback on dialog for Windows installer (round 2)

[V K]

Message is quite clear, but "If you do not understand this message, you should 
choose "Continue"." says too little and indirectly states, that user is dumb. 
I've read previous thread and discussion in lyx-devel. Maybe this sentence can 
be replayced with warning about not working LyX? Something like "Not upgrading 
MiKTeX can leave LyX in not working condition" ("can broke LyX" would be more 
simple to understand, but isn't correct technically, as I understand). This 
sentence informs user, why it should upgrade, not only urges to upgrade. Such 
warning can be compromise with Uwe too, I think :).
And congratulations with release of such good program.
Valdemaras

On Saturday, March 31, 2018 8:39 PM, Scott Kostyshak  
wrote:
 

 Dear all,

I have two separate questions:

1. If no edits are made to the following dialog, do you believe the
dialog would be confusing to the *average* LyX user on Windows during
the LyX 2.3.0 installation process?

    LyX requires MiKTeX 2.9 or later. Your version is X.X.
    Choose "Continue" to automatically update MiKTeX now,
    or "Cancel" to stop the LyX installation. If you do not
    understand this message, you should choose "Continue".

                                    Cancel      Continue


2. Do you have any suggested edits to improve the clarity of the above
message to the *average* LyX user on Windows?

Note that this email follows a previous thread [1]. If you did not
follow that thread, no problem at all since it would be good to have a
fresh view.

Thank you for your help!

Scott


[1] 
https://www.mail-archive.com/search?l=mid=20180313221335.6asbmcrohug4rrzf%40steph



   

Re: Feedback on dialog for Windows installer (round 2)

[Scott Kostyshak]

On Sat, Mar 31, 2018 at 07:00:34PM +, Emile Lunardon wrote:
> Does updating Miktex require an Internet connection? or can it be done with
> the Miktex distribution included in the LyX installation bundle?

It requires an internet connection.

Scott


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Re: Feedback on dialog for Windows installer (round 2)

[Emile Lunardon]

Does updating Miktex require an Internet connection? or can it be done with
the Miktex distribution included in the LyX installation bundle?

2018-03-31 19:38 GMT+02:00 Scott Kostyshak :

> Dear all,
>
> I have two separate questions:
>
> 1. If no edits are made to the following dialog, do you believe the
> dialog would be confusing to the *average* LyX user on Windows during
> the LyX 2.3.0 installation process?
>
> LyX requires MiKTeX 2.9 or later. Your version is X.X.
> Choose "Continue" to automatically update MiKTeX now,
> or "Cancel" to stop the LyX installation. If you do not
> understand this message, you should choose "Continue".
>
> Cancel   Continue
>
>
> 2. Do you have any suggested edits to improve the clarity of the above
> message to the *average* LyX user on Windows?
>
> Note that this email follows a previous thread [1]. If you did not
> follow that thread, no problem at all since it would be good to have a
> fresh view.
>
> Thank you for your help!
>
> Scott
>
>
> [1] https://www.mail-archive.com/search?l=mid=20180313221335.
> 6asbmcrohug4rrzf%40steph
>
>

Re: Feedback on dialog for Windows installer (round 2)

[Paul A. Rubin]

On 03/31/2018 02:14 PM, Scott Kostyshak wrote:

On Sat, Mar 31, 2018 at 06:00:36PM +, Paul A. Rubin wrote:


It seems clear enough to me, but is "continue" the correct thing to do if
you're confused? I haven't used Windows (or MiKTeX) in a while, but I gather
there are potential problems with doing an update. If that's the case, the
instructions seem to be saying "if you're confused, click continue and let
us maybe break your MiKTeX installation".

On the other hand, if the correct choice is to be conservative and click
cancel, maybe we should throw a life preserver? "... you should choose
'Cancel', after which you might want to seek help on the LyX user mailing
list" (or some such)?

Good points and I don't disagree with your concerns. However, I think we
might consider sacrificing some of the concerns like the ones you
discuss above for the benefit of being as clear and as simple as
possible.

Can I at least conclude from your above comments that the proposed
dialog would be better than automatically updating MiKTeX during the LyX
installation without first asking the user?

Scott
Definitely. Also, while I generally don't favor making changes without 
"informed consent", I suspect that anyone who is confused by the message 
will also have no real grasp of the nuances of updating MiKTeX v. not 
updating MiKTeX. So maybe defaulting to continue is okay.


Paul

Re: Feedback on dialog for Windows installer (round 2)

[Scott Kostyshak]

On Sat, Mar 31, 2018 at 06:00:36PM +, Paul A. Rubin wrote:

> It seems clear enough to me, but is "continue" the correct thing to do if
> you're confused? I haven't used Windows (or MiKTeX) in a while, but I gather
> there are potential problems with doing an update. If that's the case, the
> instructions seem to be saying "if you're confused, click continue and let
> us maybe break your MiKTeX installation".
> 
> On the other hand, if the correct choice is to be conservative and click
> cancel, maybe we should throw a life preserver? "... you should choose
> 'Cancel', after which you might want to seek help on the LyX user mailing
> list" (or some such)?

Good points and I don't disagree with your concerns. However, I think we
might consider sacrificing some of the concerns like the ones you
discuss above for the benefit of being as clear and as simple as
possible.

Can I at least conclude from your above comments that the proposed
dialog would be better than automatically updating MiKTeX during the LyX
installation without first asking the user?

Scott


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Re: Feedback on dialog for Windows installer (round 2)

[Paul A. Rubin]

On 03/31/2018 01:38 PM, Scott Kostyshak wrote:

Dear all,

I have two separate questions:

1. If no edits are made to the following dialog, do you believe the
dialog would be confusing to the *average* LyX user on Windows during
the LyX 2.3.0 installation process?

 LyX requires MiKTeX 2.9 or later. Your version is X.X.
 Choose "Continue" to automatically update MiKTeX now,
 or "Cancel" to stop the LyX installation. If you do not
 understand this message, you should choose "Continue".

 Cancel   Continue


2. Do you have any suggested edits to improve the clarity of the above
message to the *average* LyX user on Windows?

Note that this email follows a previous thread [1]. If you did not
follow that thread, no problem at all since it would be good to have a
fresh view.

Thank you for your help!

Scott


[1] 
https://www.mail-archive.com/search?l=mid=20180313221335.6asbmcrohug4rrzf%40steph

It seems clear enough to me, but is "continue" the correct thing to do 
if you're confused? I haven't used Windows (or MiKTeX) in a while, but I 
gather there are potential problems with doing an update. If that's the 
case, the instructions seem to be saying "if you're confused, click 
continue and let us maybe break your MiKTeX installation".


On the other hand, if the correct choice is to be conservative and click 
cancel, maybe we should throw a life preserver? "... you should choose 
'Cancel', after which you might want to seek help on the LyX user 
mailing list" (or some such)?


Paul

Feedback on dialog for Windows installer (round 2)

[Scott Kostyshak]

Dear all,

I have two separate questions:

1. If no edits are made to the following dialog, do you believe the
dialog would be confusing to the *average* LyX user on Windows during
the LyX 2.3.0 installation process?

LyX requires MiKTeX 2.9 or later. Your version is X.X.
Choose "Continue" to automatically update MiKTeX now,
or "Cancel" to stop the LyX installation. If you do not
understand this message, you should choose "Continue".

Cancel   Continue


2. Do you have any suggested edits to improve the clarity of the above
message to the *average* LyX user on Windows?

Note that this email follows a previous thread [1]. If you did not
follow that thread, no problem at all since it would be good to have a
fresh view.

Thank you for your help!

Scott


[1] 
https://www.mail-archive.com/search?l=mid=20180313221335.6asbmcrohug4rrzf%40steph



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[announce] again a new Windows installer for LyX 2.2.2 is available

[Uwe Stöhr]

Dear LyX on Windows users,

especially new users or those who installed LyX the first time on a 
computer recently encountered error messages of missing LaTeX packages.
There was a bug in the LaTeX distribution MiKTeX that is used by LyX for 
Windows that disabled any LaTeX package downloads.


This bug is now fixed and I therefore uploaded a new installer.

For those who had the mentioned errors, the only way to fix them is to 
do this:


1. uninstall LyX _completely_ (assure that MiKTeX is selected in the 
uninstaller to be uninstalled as well)

2. reinstall LyX 2.2.2 using the new installer:
ftp://ftp.lyx.org/pub/lyx/bin/2.2.2/LyX-222-Bundle-4.exe



Changelog of the new installer:
- fix bug that spell checker for Vietnamese was not installed
- fix bug that thesaurus for Ukrainian was not installed
- updated to MiKTeX 2.9 build 6219 (fixes problems with the update of 
LaTeX packages)

- updated to Python 2.7.13
- updated to ImageMagick 7.0.4-5
- updated to JabRef 3.8.1
- updated to Perl 5.22.3.1
- updated thesaurus for Ukrainian
- updated spell checker dictionaries for English (CA, GB and US) and 
Ukrainian
  (To benefit from them you must uninstall an already installed LyX 
2.2.x and then use this installer.)



regards Uwe

[announce] new Windows installer for LyX 2.2.2 available

[Uwe Stöhr]

Dear LyX on Windows users,

some of you might have recently encountered problems with the PDF output 
of your LyX files. documents that worked fine lead now to LaTeX errors. 
These problems were introduced by a major package refactoring of the 
LaTeX distribution MiKTeX that is used by default by LyX on Windows.


There are 2 ways to solve them:

1. run MiKTeX's update program _twice_

If this does not solve your problems and you still get LaTeX errors, the 
easiest way is to


2. uninstall MiKTeX _completely_ and subsequently install LyX 2.2.2 over 
your existing LyX installation using this new installer:

ftp://ftp.lyx.org/pub/lyx/bin/2.2.2/LyX-222-Bundle-3.exe

It will automatically reinstall a new MiKTeX and set up everything for 
you. This might take some time depending on your Internet speed because 
LyX needs a lot LaTeX packages that will be downloaded.


regards Uwe

Re: Templates from LyX-207-Bundle-3 Windows Installer

[José Alejandro Lugo García]

Hello Uwe,

Thanks for your very explicit and clear explanation :) About LaTeX engine for 
Windows (2GB), of course is very large. In that case, at work, fortunately I 
have access to full Ubuntu repositories because there is a mirror that are keep 
update constantly from internet. I know probably this questions are tricky but:

-What version of LyX the team think to put on Ubuntu 14.04 repositories? 
-In Ubuntu repositories there are full LaTeX engine? If so, I will think about 
migrate completely and use LyX on that enviroment. Actually I 'm not doing that 
because the problem I have with accent in LyX version 2.0.2 from my Ubuntu 
12.04 already installed on my machine. But, if at Ubuntu 14.04 will be put a 
latest version that solve most of my current problems then yes, I would love to 
use LyX on Ubuntu OS.

Bests,

José. 

- Mensaje original -
De: Uwe Stöhr uwesto...@web.de
Para: José Alejandro Lugo García jal...@uci.cu, lyx-users@lists.lyx.org
Enviados: Miércoles, 26 de Marzo 2014 20:27:47
Asunto: Re: Templates from LyX-207-Bundle-3 Windows Installer

Am 22.03.2014 02:16, schrieb José Alejandro Lugo García:

 I don’t have the possibility of a full internet connection, so with some 
 help, I reached the LyX-207-Bundle-3 installer for Windows. Install perfect.

Hello José,

This installer version unfortunately came with a major bug that destroyed all 
shortcuts. As a 
Spanish user you are most probably affected. Please excuse for that mistake.

You have now 2 choices:
- either uninstall LyX 2.0.7 and reinstall it using this installer:
   ftp://ftp.lyx.org/pub/lyx/bin/2.0.7/LyX-2.0.7-Installer-4.exe
- or uninstall LyX 2.0. and install instead the brand new LyX 2.1 release 
candidate:
   
ftp://ftp.lyx.org/pub/lyx/devel/lyx-2.1/lyx-2.1.0rc1/LyX-210RC1-Installer-1.exe

(When LyX 2.1.0 is released in about 2 weeks you can easily upgrade without the 
need to reinstall 
LyX. Just install LyX 2.1.0 over the existing LyX 2.1RC1.)

 All great until I try to open some templates from File/New from Template (see 
 “ 0 showing_templates.png”). Sadly many templates from this collection shows 
 “errors” with missing dependencies that needs to be downloaded from internet 
 (see “1 Show_error.png”).

The reason is that LyX uses a lot of packages and the LaTeX engine for Windows 
does not offer to 
install all packages at once (that would be more than 2 GB). I therefore 
recommend that you go to an 
Internet café, download there the LyX installer, keep your Internet connection 
open and install LyX 
right in the Internet Café.
The installation might take a while (up to 15 minutes, depending on your PC and 
the Internet speed) 
so just drink a coffee in the café ;-).
Finally you have a full functional LyX and can go offline. Problems as you had 
should then not occur.
Note that the installation of all the LaTeX packages is only necessary once. So 
as log as you keep 
the LateX engine MiKTeX on your PC everything should be fine after the first 
installation. 
Therefore assure that you keep MiKTeX when you uninstall LyX 2.0.7 (there is an 
option in LyX's 
uninstaller).

regards Uwe

-- 
Prof. MSc. José Alejandro Lugo García 
Laboratorio de Investigaciones en Gestión de Proyectos. 
http://www.ecured.cu/index.php/Gespro 
Universidad de las Ciencias Informáticas. La Habana. Cuba. 


I Conferencia Científica Internacional UCIENCIA 2014 en la UCI del 24 al 26 de 
abril de 2014, La Habana, Cuba. Ver http://uciencia.uci.cu

Re: Templates from LyX-207-Bundle-3 Windows Installer

[Alex Vergara Gil]

- Original Message - 
From: José Alejandro Lugo García jal...@uci.cu


-In Ubuntu repositories there are full LaTeX engine? If so, I will think 
about migrate completely and use LyX on that enviroment. Actually I 'm not 
doing that because the problem I have with accent in LyX version 2.0.2 
from my Ubuntu 12.04 already installed on my machine. But, if at Ubuntu 
14.04 will be put a latest version that solve most of my current problems 
then yes, I would love to use LyX on Ubuntu OS.


Bests,

José.


The accents problem is not a lyx issue, but wrong keyboard configuration, so 
even if you upgrade to the newest OS you will remain with that problem, so I 
recommend you to check your keyboard layouth been in spanish, any version 
(traditional sort, Latin American sort or Spain sort). That problem will 
vanish then. Even if you have an english keyboard you will have access to 
accents there.


Best
Alex 

Re: Templates from LyX-207-Bundle-3 Windows Installer

[Uwe Stöhr]

Am 27.03.2014 15:49, schrieb José Alejandro Lugo García:


Thanks for your very explicit and clear explanation :) About LaTeX engine for 
Windows (2GB), of course is very large.


Hello José,

2 GB is only necessary if you install ALL things that LaTeX offers. LyX needs only about 70 MB. 
Therefore install LyX once while you are connected to the Internet and you will get automatically 
all LaTeX-packages used by LyX.
Note that you can alternatively also install LyX while not being connected to the Internet. Then go 
afterwards to the University or an Internet Café, connect to the Internet start LyX and then use the 
menu Tools- Reconfigure. Then LyX also tries to download and install all necessary LaTeX-packages 
from the Internet. (That can take a while as I wrote.)



-What version of LyX the team think to put on Ubuntu 14.04 repositories?


That is not our decision. The Ubuntu people decides what LyX version they take. You can nevertheless 
download a LyX Ubuntu-package from LyX itself:

http://wiki.lyx.org/LyX/LyXOnUbuntu#toc3


-In Ubuntu repositories there are full LaTeX engine?


Not that I know. They also only offer by default a subset of all available 
LaTeX-packages.
(However I am on Windows only and cannot say it more precisely.)

regards Uwe

Re: Templates from LyX-207-Bundle-3 Windows Installer

[José Alejandro Lugo García]

Hello Uwe,

Thanks for your very explicit and clear explanation :) About LaTeX engine for 
Windows (2GB), of course is very large. In that case, at work, fortunately I 
have access to full Ubuntu repositories because there is a mirror that are keep 
update constantly from internet. I know probably this questions are tricky but:

-What version of LyX the team think to put on Ubuntu 14.04 repositories? 
-In Ubuntu repositories there are full LaTeX engine? If so, I will think about 
migrate completely and use LyX on that enviroment. Actually I 'm not doing that 
because the problem I have with accent in LyX version 2.0.2 from my Ubuntu 
12.04 already installed on my machine. But, if at Ubuntu 14.04 will be put a 
latest version that solve most of my current problems then yes, I would love to 
use LyX on Ubuntu OS.

Bests,

José. 

- Mensaje original -
De: Uwe Stöhr uwesto...@web.de
Para: José Alejandro Lugo García jal...@uci.cu, lyx-users@lists.lyx.org
Enviados: Miércoles, 26 de Marzo 2014 20:27:47
Asunto: Re: Templates from LyX-207-Bundle-3 Windows Installer

Am 22.03.2014 02:16, schrieb José Alejandro Lugo García:

 I don’t have the possibility of a full internet connection, so with some 
 help, I reached the LyX-207-Bundle-3 installer for Windows. Install perfect.

Hello José,

This installer version unfortunately came with a major bug that destroyed all 
shortcuts. As a 
Spanish user you are most probably affected. Please excuse for that mistake.

You have now 2 choices:
- either uninstall LyX 2.0.7 and reinstall it using this installer:
   ftp://ftp.lyx.org/pub/lyx/bin/2.0.7/LyX-2.0.7-Installer-4.exe
- or uninstall LyX 2.0. and install instead the brand new LyX 2.1 release 
candidate:
   
ftp://ftp.lyx.org/pub/lyx/devel/lyx-2.1/lyx-2.1.0rc1/LyX-210RC1-Installer-1.exe

(When LyX 2.1.0 is released in about 2 weeks you can easily upgrade without the 
need to reinstall 
LyX. Just install LyX 2.1.0 over the existing LyX 2.1RC1.)

 All great until I try to open some templates from File/New from Template (see 
 “ 0 showing_templates.png”). Sadly many templates from this collection shows 
 “errors” with missing dependencies that needs to be downloaded from internet 
 (see “1 Show_error.png”).

The reason is that LyX uses a lot of packages and the LaTeX engine for Windows 
does not offer to 
install all packages at once (that would be more than 2 GB). I therefore 
recommend that you go to an 
Internet café, download there the LyX installer, keep your Internet connection 
open and install LyX 
right in the Internet Café.
The installation might take a while (up to 15 minutes, depending on your PC and 
the Internet speed) 
so just drink a coffee in the café ;-).
Finally you have a full functional LyX and can go offline. Problems as you had 
should then not occur.
Note that the installation of all the LaTeX packages is only necessary once. So 
as log as you keep 
the LateX engine MiKTeX on your PC everything should be fine after the first 
installation. 
Therefore assure that you keep MiKTeX when you uninstall LyX 2.0.7 (there is an 
option in LyX's 
uninstaller).

regards Uwe

-- 
Prof. MSc. José Alejandro Lugo García 
Laboratorio de Investigaciones en Gestión de Proyectos. 
http://www.ecured.cu/index.php/Gespro 
Universidad de las Ciencias Informáticas. La Habana. Cuba. 


I Conferencia Científica Internacional UCIENCIA 2014 en la UCI del 24 al 26 de 
abril de 2014, La Habana, Cuba. Ver http://uciencia.uci.cu

Re: Templates from LyX-207-Bundle-3 Windows Installer

[Alex Vergara Gil]

- Original Message - 
From: José Alejandro Lugo García jal...@uci.cu


-In Ubuntu repositories there are full LaTeX engine? If so, I will think 
about migrate completely and use LyX on that enviroment. Actually I 'm not 
doing that because the problem I have with accent in LyX version 2.0.2 
from my Ubuntu 12.04 already installed on my machine. But, if at Ubuntu 
14.04 will be put a latest version that solve most of my current problems 
then yes, I would love to use LyX on Ubuntu OS.


Bests,

José.


The accents problem is not a lyx issue, but wrong keyboard configuration, so 
even if you upgrade to the newest OS you will remain with that problem, so I 
recommend you to check your keyboard layouth been in spanish, any version 
(traditional sort, Latin American sort or Spain sort). That problem will 
vanish then. Even if you have an english keyboard you will have access to 
accents there.


Best
Alex 

Re: Templates from LyX-207-Bundle-3 Windows Installer

[Uwe Stöhr]

Am 27.03.2014 15:49, schrieb José Alejandro Lugo García:


Thanks for your very explicit and clear explanation :) About LaTeX engine for 
Windows (2GB), of course is very large.


Hello José,

2 GB is only necessary if you install ALL things that LaTeX offers. LyX needs only about 70 MB. 
Therefore install LyX once while you are connected to the Internet and you will get automatically 
all LaTeX-packages used by LyX.
Note that you can alternatively also install LyX while not being connected to the Internet. Then go 
afterwards to the University or an Internet Café, connect to the Internet start LyX and then use the 
menu Tools- Reconfigure. Then LyX also tries to download and install all necessary LaTeX-packages 
from the Internet. (That can take a while as I wrote.)



-What version of LyX the team think to put on Ubuntu 14.04 repositories?


That is not our decision. The Ubuntu people decides what LyX version they take. You can nevertheless 
download a LyX Ubuntu-package from LyX itself:

http://wiki.lyx.org/LyX/LyXOnUbuntu#toc3


-In Ubuntu repositories there are full LaTeX engine?


Not that I know. They also only offer by default a subset of all available 
LaTeX-packages.
(However I am on Windows only and cannot say it more precisely.)

regards Uwe

Re: Templates from LyX-207-Bundle-3 Windows Installer

[José Alejandro Lugo García]

Hello Uwe,

Thanks for your very explicit and clear explanation :) About LaTeX engine for 
Windows (2GB), of course is very large. In that case, at work, fortunately I 
have access to full Ubuntu repositories because there is a mirror that are keep 
update constantly from internet. I know probably this questions are tricky but:

-What version of LyX the team think to put on Ubuntu 14.04 repositories? 
-In Ubuntu repositories there are full LaTeX engine? If so, I will think about 
migrate completely and use LyX on that enviroment. Actually I 'm not doing that 
because the problem I have with accent in LyX version 2.0.2 from my Ubuntu 
12.04 already installed on my machine. But, if at Ubuntu 14.04 will be put a 
latest version that solve most of my current problems then yes, I would love to 
use LyX on Ubuntu OS.

Bests,

José. 

- Mensaje original -
De: "Uwe Stöhr" <uwesto...@web.de>
Para: "José Alejandro Lugo García" <jal...@uci.cu>, lyx-users@lists.lyx.org
Enviados: Miércoles, 26 de Marzo 2014 20:27:47
Asunto: Re: Templates from LyX-207-Bundle-3 Windows Installer

Am 22.03.2014 02:16, schrieb José Alejandro Lugo García:

> I don’t have the possibility of a full internet connection, so with some 
> help, I reached the LyX-207-Bundle-3 installer for Windows. Install perfect.

Hello José,

This installer version unfortunately came with a major bug that destroyed all 
shortcuts. As a 
Spanish user you are most probably affected. Please excuse for that mistake.

You have now 2 choices:
- either uninstall LyX 2.0.7 and reinstall it using this installer:
   ftp://ftp.lyx.org/pub/lyx/bin/2.0.7/LyX-2.0.7-Installer-4.exe
- or uninstall LyX 2.0. and install instead the brand new LyX 2.1 release 
candidate:
   
ftp://ftp.lyx.org/pub/lyx/devel/lyx-2.1/lyx-2.1.0rc1/LyX-210RC1-Installer-1.exe

(When LyX 2.1.0 is released in about 2 weeks you can easily upgrade without the 
need to reinstall 
LyX. Just install LyX 2.1.0 over the existing LyX 2.1RC1.)

> All great until I try to open some templates from File/New from Template (see 
> “ 0 showing_templates.png”). Sadly many templates from this collection shows 
> “errors” with missing dependencies that needs to be downloaded from internet 
> (see “1 Show_error.png”).

The reason is that LyX uses a lot of packages and the LaTeX engine for Windows 
does not offer to 
install all packages at once (that would be more than 2 GB). I therefore 
recommend that you go to an 
Internet café, download there the LyX installer, keep your Internet connection 
open and install LyX 
right in the Internet Café.
The installation might take a while (up to 15 minutes, depending on your PC and 
the Internet speed) 
so just drink a coffee in the café ;-).
Finally you have a full functional LyX and can go offline. Problems as you had 
should then not occur.
Note that the installation of all the LaTeX packages is only necessary once. So 
as log as you keep 
the LateX engine "MiKTeX" on your PC everything should be fine after the first 
installation. 
Therefore assure that you keep MiKTeX when you uninstall LyX 2.0.7 (there is an 
option in LyX's 
uninstaller).

regards Uwe

-- 
Prof. MSc. José Alejandro Lugo García 
Laboratorio de Investigaciones en Gestión de Proyectos. 
http://www.ecured.cu/index.php/Gespro 
Universidad de las Ciencias Informáticas. La Habana. Cuba. 


I Conferencia Científica Internacional UCIENCIA 2014 en la UCI del 24 al 26 de 
abril de 2014, La Habana, Cuba. Ver http://uciencia.uci.cu

Re: Templates from LyX-207-Bundle-3 Windows Installer

[Alex Vergara Gil]

- Original Message - 
From: "José Alejandro Lugo García" 


-In Ubuntu repositories there are full LaTeX engine? If so, I will think 
about migrate completely and use LyX on that enviroment. Actually I 'm not 
doing that because the problem I have with accent in LyX version 2.0.2 
from my Ubuntu 12.04 already installed on my machine. But, if at Ubuntu 
14.04 will be put a latest version that solve most of my current problems 
then yes, I would love to use LyX on Ubuntu OS.


Bests,

José.


The accents problem is not a lyx issue, but wrong keyboard configuration, so 
even if you upgrade to the newest OS you will remain with that problem, so I 
recommend you to check your keyboard layouth been in spanish, any version 
(traditional sort, Latin American sort or Spain sort). That problem will 
vanish then. Even if you have an english keyboard you will have access to 
accents there.


Best
Alex 

Re: Templates from LyX-207-Bundle-3 Windows Installer

[Uwe Stöhr]

Am 27.03.2014 15:49, schrieb José Alejandro Lugo García:


Thanks for your very explicit and clear explanation :) About LaTeX engine for 
Windows (2GB), of course is very large.


Hello José,

2 GB is only necessary if you install ALL things that LaTeX offers. LyX needs only about 70 MB. 
Therefore install LyX once while you are connected to the Internet and you will get automatically 
all LaTeX-packages used by LyX.
Note that you can alternatively also install LyX while not being connected to the Internet. Then go 
afterwards to the University or an Internet Café, connect to the Internet start LyX and then use the 
menu Tools-> Reconfigure. Then LyX also tries to download and install all necessary LaTeX-packages 
from the Internet. (That can take a while as I wrote.)



-What version of LyX the team think to put on Ubuntu 14.04 repositories?


That is not our decision. The Ubuntu people decides what LyX version they take. You can nevertheless 
download a LyX Ubuntu-package from LyX itself:

http://wiki.lyx.org/LyX/LyXOnUbuntu#toc3


-In Ubuntu repositories there are full LaTeX engine?


Not that I know. They also only offer by default a subset of all available 
LaTeX-packages.
(However I am on Windows only and cannot say it more precisely.)

regards Uwe

Re: Templates from LyX-207-Bundle-3 Windows Installer

[Uwe Stöhr]

Am 22.03.2014 02:16, schrieb José Alejandro Lugo García:


I don’t have the possibility of a full internet connection, so with some help, 
I reached the LyX-207-Bundle-3 installer for Windows. Install perfect.


Hello José,

This installer version unfortunately came with a major bug that destroyed all shortcuts. As a 
Spanish user you are most probably affected. Please excuse for that mistake.


You have now 2 choices:
- either uninstall LyX 2.0.7 and reinstall it using this installer:
  ftp://ftp.lyx.org/pub/lyx/bin/2.0.7/LyX-2.0.7-Installer-4.exe
- or uninstall LyX 2.0. and install instead the brand new LyX 2.1 release 
candidate:
  
ftp://ftp.lyx.org/pub/lyx/devel/lyx-2.1/lyx-2.1.0rc1/LyX-210RC1-Installer-1.exe

(When LyX 2.1.0 is released in about 2 weeks you can easily upgrade without the need to reinstall 
LyX. Just install LyX 2.1.0 over the existing LyX 2.1RC1.)



All great until I try to open some templates from File/New from Template (see “ 
0 showing_templates.png”). Sadly many templates from this collection shows 
“errors” with missing dependencies that needs to be downloaded from internet 
(see “1 Show_error.png”).


The reason is that LyX uses a lot of packages and the LaTeX engine for Windows does not offer to 
install all packages at once (that would be more than 2 GB). I therefore recommend that you go to an 
Internet café, download there the LyX installer, keep your Internet connection open and install LyX 
right in the Internet Café.
The installation might take a while (up to 15 minutes, depending on your PC and the Internet speed) 
so just drink a coffee in the café ;-).

Finally you have a full functional LyX and can go offline. Problems as you had 
should then not occur.
Note that the installation of all the LaTeX packages is only necessary once. So as log as you keep 
the LateX engine MiKTeX on your PC everything should be fine after the first installation. 
Therefore assure that you keep MiKTeX when you uninstall LyX 2.0.7 (there is an option in LyX's 
uninstaller).


regards Uwe

Re: Templates from LyX-207-Bundle-3 Windows Installer

[Uwe Stöhr]

Am 22.03.2014 02:16, schrieb José Alejandro Lugo García:


I don’t have the possibility of a full internet connection, so with some help, 
I reached the LyX-207-Bundle-3 installer for Windows. Install perfect.


Hello José,

This installer version unfortunately came with a major bug that destroyed all shortcuts. As a 
Spanish user you are most probably affected. Please excuse for that mistake.


You have now 2 choices:
- either uninstall LyX 2.0.7 and reinstall it using this installer:
  ftp://ftp.lyx.org/pub/lyx/bin/2.0.7/LyX-2.0.7-Installer-4.exe
- or uninstall LyX 2.0. and install instead the brand new LyX 2.1 release 
candidate:
  
ftp://ftp.lyx.org/pub/lyx/devel/lyx-2.1/lyx-2.1.0rc1/LyX-210RC1-Installer-1.exe

(When LyX 2.1.0 is released in about 2 weeks you can easily upgrade without the need to reinstall 
LyX. Just install LyX 2.1.0 over the existing LyX 2.1RC1.)



All great until I try to open some templates from File/New from Template (see “ 
0 showing_templates.png”). Sadly many templates from this collection shows 
“errors” with missing dependencies that needs to be downloaded from internet 
(see “1 Show_error.png”).


The reason is that LyX uses a lot of packages and the LaTeX engine for Windows does not offer to 
install all packages at once (that would be more than 2 GB). I therefore recommend that you go to an 
Internet café, download there the LyX installer, keep your Internet connection open and install LyX 
right in the Internet Café.
The installation might take a while (up to 15 minutes, depending on your PC and the Internet speed) 
so just drink a coffee in the café ;-).

Finally you have a full functional LyX and can go offline. Problems as you had 
should then not occur.
Note that the installation of all the LaTeX packages is only necessary once. So as log as you keep 
the LateX engine MiKTeX on your PC everything should be fine after the first installation. 
Therefore assure that you keep MiKTeX when you uninstall LyX 2.0.7 (there is an option in LyX's 
uninstaller).


regards Uwe

Re: Templates from LyX-207-Bundle-3 Windows Installer

[Uwe Stöhr]

Am 22.03.2014 02:16, schrieb José Alejandro Lugo García:


I don’t have the possibility of a full internet connection, so with some help, 
I reached the LyX-207-Bundle-3 installer for Windows. Install perfect.


Hello José,

This installer version unfortunately came with a major bug that destroyed all shortcuts. As a 
Spanish user you are most probably affected. Please excuse for that mistake.


You have now 2 choices:
- either uninstall LyX 2.0.7 and reinstall it using this installer:
  ftp://ftp.lyx.org/pub/lyx/bin/2.0.7/LyX-2.0.7-Installer-4.exe
- or uninstall LyX 2.0. and install instead the brand new LyX 2.1 release 
candidate:
  
ftp://ftp.lyx.org/pub/lyx/devel/lyx-2.1/lyx-2.1.0rc1/LyX-210RC1-Installer-1.exe

(When LyX 2.1.0 is released in about 2 weeks you can easily upgrade without the need to reinstall 
LyX. Just install LyX 2.1.0 over the existing LyX 2.1RC1.)



All great until I try to open some templates from File/New from Template (see “ 
0 showing_templates.png”). Sadly many templates from this collection shows 
“errors” with missing dependencies that needs to be downloaded from internet 
(see “1 Show_error.png”).


The reason is that LyX uses a lot of packages and the LaTeX engine for Windows does not offer to 
install all packages at once (that would be more than 2 GB). I therefore recommend that you go to an 
Internet café, download there the LyX installer, keep your Internet connection open and install LyX 
right in the Internet Café.
The installation might take a while (up to 15 minutes, depending on your PC and the Internet speed) 
so just drink a coffee in the café ;-).

Finally you have a full functional LyX and can go offline. Problems as you had 
should then not occur.
Note that the installation of all the LaTeX packages is only necessary once. So as log as you keep 
the LateX engine "MiKTeX" on your PC everything should be fine after the first installation. 
Therefore assure that you keep MiKTeX when you uninstall LyX 2.0.7 (there is an option in LyX's 
uninstaller).


regards Uwe

Re: Templates from LyX-207-Bundle-3 Windows Installer

[Alex Vergara Gil]

Dear José
As you I don´t have full internet conection, but LyX works very well if you 
manage to install miktex correctly in your system, mainly miktex 2.9 which 
is the last version I have works as a charm.


Greetings and good luck
Alex

- Original Message - 
From: José Alejandro Lugo García jal...@uci.cu

To: lyx-users@lists.lyx.org
Sent: Friday, March 21, 2014 8:16 PM
Subject: Templates from LyX-207-Bundle-3 Windows Installer



Hi:
I don’t have the possibility of a full internet connection, so with some 
help, I reached the LyX-207-Bundle-3 installer for Windows. Install perfect. 
All great until I try to open some templates from File/New from Template 
(see “ 0 showing_templates.png”). Sadly many templates from this collection 
shows “errors” with missing dependencies that needs to be downloaded from 
internet (see “1 Show_error.png”). This problem don’t happen with Lyx on 
Ubuntu 12.04, where it seems that all dependencies are downloading 
automatically from the OS repositories during the installation process.


¿What is the possibility to fix this for people like me who has not full 
connection to the internet from Windows?


Regards, José.

I Conferencia Científica Internacional UCIENCIA 2014 en la UCI del 24 al 26 
de abril de 2014, La Habana, Cuba. Ver http://uciencia.uci.cu





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Re: Templates from LyX-207-Bundle-3 Windows Installer

[Alex Vergara Gil]

Dear José
As you I don´t have full internet conection, but LyX works very well if you 
manage to install miktex correctly in your system, mainly miktex 2.9 which 
is the last version I have works as a charm.


Greetings and good luck
Alex

- Original Message - 
From: José Alejandro Lugo García jal...@uci.cu

To: lyx-users@lists.lyx.org
Sent: Friday, March 21, 2014 8:16 PM
Subject: Templates from LyX-207-Bundle-3 Windows Installer



Hi:
I don’t have the possibility of a full internet connection, so with some 
help, I reached the LyX-207-Bundle-3 installer for Windows. Install perfect. 
All great until I try to open some templates from File/New from Template 
(see “ 0 showing_templates.png”). Sadly many templates from this collection 
shows “errors” with missing dependencies that needs to be downloaded from 
internet (see “1 Show_error.png”). This problem don’t happen with Lyx on 
Ubuntu 12.04, where it seems that all dependencies are downloading 
automatically from the OS repositories during the installation process.


¿What is the possibility to fix this for people like me who has not full 
connection to the internet from Windows?


Regards, José.

I Conferencia Científica Internacional UCIENCIA 2014 en la UCI del 24 al 26 
de abril de 2014, La Habana, Cuba. Ver http://uciencia.uci.cu





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de virus 9568 (20140320) __


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Re: Templates from LyX-207-Bundle-3 Windows Installer

[Alex Vergara Gil]

Dear José
As you I don´t have full internet conection, but LyX works very well if you 
manage to install miktex correctly in your system, mainly miktex 2.9 which 
is the last version I have works as a charm.


Greetings and good luck
Alex

- Original Message - 
From: "José Alejandro Lugo García" <jal...@uci.cu>

To: <lyx-users@lists.lyx.org>
Sent: Friday, March 21, 2014 8:16 PM
Subject: Templates from LyX-207-Bundle-3 Windows Installer



Hi:
I don’t have the possibility of a full internet connection, so with some 
help, I reached the LyX-207-Bundle-3 installer for Windows. Install perfect. 
All great until I try to open some templates from File/New from Template 
(see “ 0 showing_templates.png”). Sadly many templates from this collection 
shows “errors” with missing dependencies that needs to be downloaded from 
internet (see “1 Show_error.png”). This problem don’t happen with Lyx on 
Ubuntu 12.04, where it seems that all dependencies are downloading 
automatically from the OS repositories during the installation process.


¿What is the possibility to fix this for people like me who has not full 
connection to the internet from Windows?


Regards, José.

I Conferencia Científica Internacional UCIENCIA 2014 en la UCI del 24 al 26 
de abril de 2014, La Habana, Cuba. Ver http://uciencia.uci.cu





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Re: testers needed for LyX's Windows installer

[Tim Wood]

Uwe Stöhr uwestoehr at web.de writes:

 
 Am 06.06.2012 11:04, schrieb Rick Blok - LR:
 
  I've just checked the computer were I don't have admin rights, and I
don't see perl.exe in the bin folder,
 and I also don't have a lib-folder.
 
 Not good. However in the meantime it is possible to install LyX without
admin privileges. I also 
 fixed several bugs in the installer. Could you please give it again a try:
 https://sourceforge.net/projects/lyxwininstaller/files/LyXWinInstaller/2.0.4/
 
 thanks and regards
 Uwe
 
 


FYI, on a lenovo laptop running windows 8 (with all the updates as of Wed...
not sure if that means it's magically 8.1), The LyX install fails because
the MikTeX install fails at operation could not be completed: Permission
denied...miktex/bin/mvc100rus.dll

Re: testers needed for LyX's Windows installer

[Tim Wood]

Uwe Stöhr uwestoehr at web.de writes:

 
 Am 06.06.2012 11:04, schrieb Rick Blok - LR:
 
  I've just checked the computer were I don't have admin rights, and I
don't see perl.exe in the bin folder,
 and I also don't have a lib-folder.
 
 Not good. However in the meantime it is possible to install LyX without
admin privileges. I also 
 fixed several bugs in the installer. Could you please give it again a try:
 https://sourceforge.net/projects/lyxwininstaller/files/LyXWinInstaller/2.0.4/
 
 thanks and regards
 Uwe
 
 


FYI, on a lenovo laptop running windows 8 (with all the updates as of Wed...
not sure if that means it's magically 8.1), The LyX install fails because
the MikTeX install fails at operation could not be completed: Permission
denied...miktex/bin/mvc100rus.dll

Re: testers needed for LyX's Windows installer

[Tim Wood]

Uwe Stöhr  web.de> writes:

> 
> Am 06.06.2012 11:04, schrieb Rick Blok - LR:
> 
> > I've just checked the computer were I don't have admin rights, and I
don't see perl.exe in the bin folder,
> and I also don't have a lib-folder.
> 
> Not good. However in the meantime it is possible to install LyX without
admin privileges. I also 
> fixed several bugs in the installer. Could you please give it again a try:
> https://sourceforge.net/projects/lyxwininstaller/files/LyXWinInstaller/2.0.4/
> 
> thanks and regards
> Uwe
> 
> 


FYI, on a lenovo laptop running windows 8 (with all the updates as of Wed...
not sure if that means it's magically 8.1), The LyX install fails because
the MikTeX install fails at operation could not be completed: Permission
denied...miktex/bin/mvc100rus.dll

Re: testers needed for LyX\'s Windows installer

[Uwe Stöhr]

Am 27.06.2012 20:37, schrieb Uwe Stöhr:

Am 27.06.2012 11:27, schrieb Rick Blok:


When I start the installer, it complains that lyx is already installed, and
that I should remove it first. However, since I don't have admin rights, I
can't do that.


But this means that LyX was once installed with admin permissions. There is no 
other way to
uninstall it without admin privileges in this case.


I think I now know why you got this: LyX was first installed as admin and later on again without 
admin privileges. This is now no longer possible in the new installer version:

http://sourceforge.net/projects/lyxwininstaller/

Have you in the meantime been able to uninstall LyX? If not try this:

1. uninstall LyX as admin
2. remove in the registry all occurrences of LyX
3. login as user without admin privileges
4. check if you can find a lyx.exe on your PC, if so, delete the whole Lyx 
installation folder
5. remove again in the registry all occurrences of LyX (this time you will clean up residues in the 
user-specific area of the registry)


regards Uwe

Re: testers needed for LyX\'s Windows installer

[Uwe Stöhr]

Am 27.06.2012 20:37, schrieb Uwe Stöhr:

Am 27.06.2012 11:27, schrieb Rick Blok:


When I start the installer, it complains that lyx is already installed, and
that I should remove it first. However, since I don't have admin rights, I
can't do that.


But this means that LyX was once installed with admin permissions. There is no 
other way to
uninstall it without admin privileges in this case.


I think I now know why you got this: LyX was first installed as admin and later on again without 
admin privileges. This is now no longer possible in the new installer version:

http://sourceforge.net/projects/lyxwininstaller/

Have you in the meantime been able to uninstall LyX? If not try this:

1. uninstall LyX as admin
2. remove in the registry all occurrences of LyX
3. login as user without admin privileges
4. check if you can find a lyx.exe on your PC, if so, delete the whole Lyx 
installation folder
5. remove again in the registry all occurrences of LyX (this time you will clean up residues in the 
user-specific area of the registry)


regards Uwe

Re: testers needed for LyX\'s Windows installer

[Uwe Stöhr]

Am 27.06.2012 20:37, schrieb Uwe Stöhr:

Am 27.06.2012 11:27, schrieb Rick Blok:


When I start the installer, it complains that lyx is already installed, and
that I should remove it first. However, since I don't have admin rights, I
can't do that.


But this means that LyX was once installed with admin permissions. There is no 
other way to
uninstall it without admin privileges in this case.


I think I now know why you got this: LyX was first installed as admin and later on again without 
admin privileges. This is now no longer possible in the new installer version:

http://sourceforge.net/projects/lyxwininstaller/

Have you in the meantime been able to uninstall LyX? If not try this:

1. uninstall LyX as admin
2. remove in the registry all occurrences of LyX
3. login as user without admin privileges
4. check if you can find a "lyx.exe" on your PC, if so, delete the whole Lyx 
installation folder
5. remove again in the registry all occurrences of LyX (this time you will clean up residues in the 
user-specific area of the registry)


regards Uwe

Re: testers needed for LyX\'s Windows installer

[Uwe Stöhr]

Am 27.06.2012 11:27, schrieb Rick Blok:


When I start the installer, it complains that lyx is already installed, and
that I should remove it first. However, since I don't have admin rights, I
can't do that.


But this means that LyX was once installed with admin permissions. There is no other way to 
uninstall it without admin privileges in this case.


If LyX was installed without admin permissions you can also uninstall without 
them.


Is there any file that I can remove such that the installer
let me install again?


No because as in your case LyX was installed as admin, the registry settings are in HKLM and they 
cannot be modified by normal users.


regards Uwe

Re: testers needed for LyX\'s Windows installer

[Uwe Stöhr]

Am 27.06.2012 11:27, schrieb Rick Blok:


When I start the installer, it complains that lyx is already installed, and
that I should remove it first. However, since I don't have admin rights, I
can't do that.


But this means that LyX was once installed with admin permissions. There is no other way to 
uninstall it without admin privileges in this case.


If LyX was installed without admin permissions you can also uninstall without 
them.


Is there any file that I can remove such that the installer
let me install again?


No because as in your case LyX was installed as admin, the registry settings are in HKLM and they 
cannot be modified by normal users.


regards Uwe

Re: testers needed for LyX\'s Windows installer

[Uwe Stöhr]

Am 27.06.2012 11:27, schrieb Rick Blok:


When I start the installer, it complains that lyx is already installed, and
that I should remove it first. However, since I don't have admin rights, I
can't do that.


But this means that LyX was once installed with admin permissions. There is no other way to 
uninstall it without admin privileges in this case.


If LyX was installed without admin permissions you can also uninstall without 
them.


Is there any file that I can remove such that the installer
let me install again?


No because as in your case LyX was installed as admin, the registry settings are in HKLM and they 
cannot be modified by normal users.


regards Uwe

Re: testers needed for LyX\'s Windows installer

[Uwe Stöhr]

Am 06.06.2012 11:04, schrieb Rick Blok - LR:


I've just checked the computer were I don't have admin rights, and I don't see 
perl.exe in the bin folder, and I also don't have a lib-folder.


Not good. However in the meantime it is possible to install LyX without admin privileges. I also 
fixed several bugs in the installer. Could you please give it again a try:

https://sourceforge.net/projects/lyxwininstaller/files/LyXWinInstaller/2.0.4/

thanks and regards
Uwe

Re: testers needed for LyX\'s Windows installer

[Uwe Stöhr]

Am 08.06.2012 11:56, schrieb Uwe Stöhr:


Btw, what problems are there with Imagemagick when lyx is installed without 
admin rights?


Because it requires registry settings in HKLM. After discussing this with the 
ImAgemagick
developers, they changs it but I haven't found the time to test and implement 
this yet.


This is now fixed in ImageMagick and so the installer supports installing 
without admin privileges:
https://sourceforge.net/projects/lyxwininstaller/files/LyXWinInstaller/2.0.4/

regards Uwe

Re: testers needed for LyX\'s Windows installer

[Uwe Stöhr]

Am 06.06.2012 11:04, schrieb Rick Blok - LR:


I've just checked the computer were I don't have admin rights, and I don't see 
perl.exe in the bin folder, and I also don't have a lib-folder.


Not good. However in the meantime it is possible to install LyX without admin privileges. I also 
fixed several bugs in the installer. Could you please give it again a try:

https://sourceforge.net/projects/lyxwininstaller/files/LyXWinInstaller/2.0.4/

thanks and regards
Uwe

Re: testers needed for LyX\'s Windows installer

[Uwe Stöhr]

Am 08.06.2012 11:56, schrieb Uwe Stöhr:


Btw, what problems are there with Imagemagick when lyx is installed without 
admin rights?


Because it requires registry settings in HKLM. After discussing this with the 
ImAgemagick
developers, they changs it but I haven't found the time to test and implement 
this yet.


This is now fixed in ImageMagick and so the installer supports installing 
without admin privileges:
https://sourceforge.net/projects/lyxwininstaller/files/LyXWinInstaller/2.0.4/

regards Uwe

Re: testers needed for LyX\'s Windows installer

[Uwe Stöhr]

Am 06.06.2012 11:04, schrieb Rick Blok - LR:


I've just checked the computer were I don't have admin rights, and I don't see 
perl.exe in the bin folder, and I also don't have a lib-folder.


Not good. However in the meantime it is possible to install LyX without admin privileges. I also 
fixed several bugs in the installer. Could you please give it again a try:

https://sourceforge.net/projects/lyxwininstaller/files/LyXWinInstaller/2.0.4/

thanks and regards
Uwe

Re: testers needed for LyX\'s Windows installer

[Uwe Stöhr]

Am 08.06.2012 11:56, schrieb Uwe Stöhr:


Btw, what problems are there with Imagemagick when lyx is installed without 
admin rights?


Because it requires registry settings in HKLM. After discussing this with the 
ImAgemagick
developers, they changs it but I haven't found the time to test and implement 
this yet.


This is now fixed in ImageMagick and so the installer supports installing 
without admin privileges:
https://sourceforge.net/projects/lyxwininstaller/files/LyXWinInstaller/2.0.4/

regards Uwe

RE: testers needed for LyX\'s Windows installer

[Rick Blok - LR]

I've attached my test file.

Btw, what problems are there with Imagemagick when lyx is installed without 
admin rights? The installer says that it can't install it, but it is in my lyx 
folder? I installed lyx 203 w/o admin rights and I haven't got any problems 
with image conversion. However, with this installer I have.

Kind regards,
Rick Blok

-Original Message-
From: Uwe Stöhr [mailto:uwesto...@web.de] 
Sent: vrijdag 8 juni 2012 3:20
To: rickb...@gmail.com
Cc: Rick Blok - LR; lyx-users@lists.lyx.org
Subject: Re: testers needed for LyX\'s Windows installer

Am 06.06.2012 08:42, schrieb rickb...@gmail.com:

 If still not working, could you give me a list of new files you see 
 in
 MiKTeX's
 bin folder

 No. I noticed that files were changed because I had the explorer 
 window open but it happened so fast I couldn't see which ones. The 
 newest date modified is of January, and newest date created of march. 
 But I've attached a list with all folder contents.

Thanks. It shows that the perl interpreter is no in place - this worked at 
least.

  but when I compile a document with multiple   indexes, I see only my text 
  and no indexes.

As the Perl interpreter is there, it can be that I need to deliver more of its 
plugins. To find this out, can you please send me your LyX test file?

 and do you have a older named ~\MiKTeX 2.9\miktex\lib which
 contains the subfolders Exporter, File, Getopt, IO and warnings?

 Yes, that I have. In my program files folder though, not in my home folder.

This is correct.

Note that the installer is not yet ready to be used without admin priviledges. 
There are still many open issues but I'm currently working on this.

thanks and regards
Uwe


nieuwbestand1.lyx
Description: nieuwbestand1.lyx

Re: testers needed for LyX\'s Windows installer

[Uwe Stöhr]

Am 08.06.2012 10:34, schrieb Rick Blok - LR:


I've attached my test file.


Thanks. This file works fine here, so strange that it doesn't for you.


Btw, what problems are there with Imagemagick when lyx is installed without 
admin rights?


Because it requires registry settings in HKLM. After discussing this with the ImAgemagick 
developers, they changs it but I haven't found the time to test and implement this yet.



The installer says that it can't install it, but it is in my lyx folder?


Because as user you cannot write to HKLM in the registry.


I installed lyx 203 w/o admin rights and I haven't got any problems with image 
conversion.


This is because we used a self-compiled ImageMagick which doesn't require keys in HKLM. But this is 
no proper solution, because we would then not always up to date with the latest IM version. Moreover 
we should not fork programs if there are tiny problems but try to encourage the developers to fix this.
Check what version of IM you have in your 2.0.3 and what in the testing 2.0.4 and you see that yours 
is outdated (contains even security issues).



However, with this installer I have.


Give me some time.

regards Uwe

Re: testers needed for LyX\'s Windows installer

[Juha Meriluoto]

On 8.6.2012 11:34, Rick Blok - LR wrote:
 I've attached my test file.
 
 Btw, what problems are there with Imagemagick when lyx is installed without 
 admin rights? The installer says that it can't install it, but it is in my 
 lyx folder? I installed lyx 203 w/o admin rights and I haven't got any 
 problems with image conversion. However, with this installer I have.
 
 Kind regards,
 Rick Blok
 
I just made a quick try with your test file.  Seems to be working all
right here.  I have Window$ XP SP3 and MikTeX 2.9 installed with admin
rights.

 - Juha

RE: testers needed for LyX\'s Windows installer

[Rick Blok - LR]

I've attached my test file.

Btw, what problems are there with Imagemagick when lyx is installed without 
admin rights? The installer says that it can't install it, but it is in my lyx 
folder? I installed lyx 203 w/o admin rights and I haven't got any problems 
with image conversion. However, with this installer I have.

Kind regards,
Rick Blok

-Original Message-
From: Uwe Stöhr [mailto:uwesto...@web.de] 
Sent: vrijdag 8 juni 2012 3:20
To: rickb...@gmail.com
Cc: Rick Blok - LR; lyx-users@lists.lyx.org
Subject: Re: testers needed for LyX\'s Windows installer

Am 06.06.2012 08:42, schrieb rickb...@gmail.com:

 If still not working, could you give me a list of new files you see 
 in
 MiKTeX's
 bin folder

 No. I noticed that files were changed because I had the explorer 
 window open but it happened so fast I couldn't see which ones. The 
 newest date modified is of January, and newest date created of march. 
 But I've attached a list with all folder contents.

Thanks. It shows that the perl interpreter is no in place - this worked at 
least.

  but when I compile a document with multiple   indexes, I see only my text 
  and no indexes.

As the Perl interpreter is there, it can be that I need to deliver more of its 
plugins. To find this out, can you please send me your LyX test file?

 and do you have a older named ~\MiKTeX 2.9\miktex\lib which
 contains the subfolders Exporter, File, Getopt, IO and warnings?

 Yes, that I have. In my program files folder though, not in my home folder.

This is correct.

Note that the installer is not yet ready to be used without admin priviledges. 
There are still many open issues but I'm currently working on this.

thanks and regards
Uwe


nieuwbestand1.lyx
Description: nieuwbestand1.lyx

Re: testers needed for LyX\'s Windows installer

[Uwe Stöhr]

Am 08.06.2012 10:34, schrieb Rick Blok - LR:


I've attached my test file.


Thanks. This file works fine here, so strange that it doesn't for you.


Btw, what problems are there with Imagemagick when lyx is installed without 
admin rights?


Because it requires registry settings in HKLM. After discussing this with the ImAgemagick 
developers, they changs it but I haven't found the time to test and implement this yet.



The installer says that it can't install it, but it is in my lyx folder?


Because as user you cannot write to HKLM in the registry.


I installed lyx 203 w/o admin rights and I haven't got any problems with image 
conversion.


This is because we used a self-compiled ImageMagick which doesn't require keys in HKLM. But this is 
no proper solution, because we would then not always up to date with the latest IM version. Moreover 
we should not fork programs if there are tiny problems but try to encourage the developers to fix this.
Check what version of IM you have in your 2.0.3 and what in the testing 2.0.4 and you see that yours 
is outdated (contains even security issues).



However, with this installer I have.


Give me some time.

regards Uwe

Re: testers needed for LyX\'s Windows installer

[Juha Meriluoto]

On 8.6.2012 11:34, Rick Blok - LR wrote:
 I've attached my test file.
 
 Btw, what problems are there with Imagemagick when lyx is installed without 
 admin rights? The installer says that it can't install it, but it is in my 
 lyx folder? I installed lyx 203 w/o admin rights and I haven't got any 
 problems with image conversion. However, with this installer I have.
 
 Kind regards,
 Rick Blok
 
I just made a quick try with your test file.  Seems to be working all
right here.  I have Window$ XP SP3 and MikTeX 2.9 installed with admin
rights.

 - Juha

RE: testers needed for LyX\'s Windows installer

[Rick Blok - LR]

I've attached my test file.

Btw, what problems are there with Imagemagick when lyx is installed without 
admin rights? The installer says that it can't install it, but it is in my lyx 
folder? I installed lyx 203 w/o admin rights and I haven't got any problems 
with image conversion. However, with this installer I have.

Kind regards,
Rick Blok

-Original Message-
From: Uwe Stöhr [mailto:uwesto...@web.de] 
Sent: vrijdag 8 juni 2012 3:20
To: rickb...@gmail.com
Cc: Rick Blok - LR; lyx-users@lists.lyx.org
Subject: Re: testers needed for LyX\'s Windows installer

Am 06.06.2012 08:42, schrieb rickb...@gmail.com:

>> If still not working, could you give me a list of new files you see 
>> in
> MiKTeX's
>> bin folder
>
> No. I noticed that files were changed because I had the explorer 
> window open but it happened so fast I couldn't see which ones. The 
> newest date modified is of January, and newest date created of march. 
> But I've attached a list with all folder contents.

Thanks. It shows that the perl interpreter is no in place - this worked at 
least.

 >> but when I compile a document with multiple  >> indexes, I see only my text 
 >> and no indexes.

As the Perl interpreter is there, it can be that I need to deliver more of its 
plugins. To find this out, can you please send me your LyX test file?

> and do you have a older named "~\MiKTeX 2.9\miktex\lib" which
>> contains the subfolders Exporter, File, Getopt, IO and warnings?
>
> Yes, that I have. In my program files folder though, not in my home folder.

This is correct.

Note that the installer is not yet ready to be used without admin priviledges. 
There are still many open issues but I'm currently working on this.

thanks and regards
Uwe


nieuwbestand1.lyx
Description: nieuwbestand1.lyx

Re: testers needed for LyX\'s Windows installer

[Uwe Stöhr]

Am 08.06.2012 10:34, schrieb Rick Blok - LR:


I've attached my test file.


Thanks. This file works fine here, so strange that it doesn't for you.


Btw, what problems are there with Imagemagick when lyx is installed without 
admin rights?


Because it requires registry settings in HKLM. After discussing this with the ImAgemagick 
developers, they changs it but I haven't found the time to test and implement this yet.



The installer says that it can't install it, but it is in my lyx folder?


Because as user you cannot write to HKLM in the registry.


I installed lyx 203 w/o admin rights and I haven't got any problems with image 
conversion.


This is because we used a self-compiled ImageMagick which doesn't require keys in HKLM. But this is 
no proper solution, because we would then not always up to date with the latest IM version. Moreover 
we should not fork programs if there are tiny problems but try to encourage the developers to fix this.
Check what version of IM you have in your 2.0.3 and what in the testing 2.0.4 and you see that yours 
is outdated (contains even security issues).



However, with this installer I have.


Give me some time.

regards Uwe

Re: testers needed for LyX\'s Windows installer

[Juha Meriluoto]

On 8.6.2012 11:34, Rick Blok - LR wrote:
> I've attached my test file.
> 
> Btw, what problems are there with Imagemagick when lyx is installed without 
> admin rights? The installer says that it can't install it, but it is in my 
> lyx folder? I installed lyx 203 w/o admin rights and I haven't got any 
> problems with image conversion. However, with this installer I have.
> 
> Kind regards,
> Rick Blok
> 
I just made a quick try with your test file.  Seems to be working all
right here.  I have Window$ XP SP3 and MikTeX 2.9 installed with admin
rights.

 - Juha

Re: testers needed for LyX\'s Windows installer

[Uwe Stöhr]

Am 06.06.2012 08:42, schrieb rickb...@gmail.com:


If still not working, could you give me a list of new files you see in

MiKTeX's

bin folder


No. I noticed that files were changed because I had the explorer window open
but it happened so fast I couldn't see which ones. The newest date modified
is of January, and newest date created of march. But I've attached a list
with all folder contents.


Thanks. It shows that the perl interpreter is no in place - this worked at 
least.

 but when I compile a document with multiple
 indexes, I see only my text and no indexes.

As the Perl interpreter is there, it can be that I need to deliver more of its plugins. To find this 
out, can you please send me your LyX test file?



and do you have a older named ~\MiKTeX 2.9\miktex\lib which

contains the subfolders Exporter, File, Getopt, IO and warnings?


Yes, that I have. In my program files folder though, not in my home folder.


This is correct.

Note that the installer is not yet ready to be used without admin priviledges. There are still many 
open issues but I'm currently working on this.


thanks and regards
Uwe

Re: testers needed for LyX\'s Windows installer

[Uwe Stöhr]

Am 06.06.2012 08:42, schrieb rickb...@gmail.com:


If still not working, could you give me a list of new files you see in

MiKTeX's

bin folder


No. I noticed that files were changed because I had the explorer window open
but it happened so fast I couldn't see which ones. The newest date modified
is of January, and newest date created of march. But I've attached a list
with all folder contents.


Thanks. It shows that the perl interpreter is no in place - this worked at 
least.

 but when I compile a document with multiple
 indexes, I see only my text and no indexes.

As the Perl interpreter is there, it can be that I need to deliver more of its plugins. To find this 
out, can you please send me your LyX test file?



and do you have a older named ~\MiKTeX 2.9\miktex\lib which

contains the subfolders Exporter, File, Getopt, IO and warnings?


Yes, that I have. In my program files folder though, not in my home folder.


This is correct.

Note that the installer is not yet ready to be used without admin priviledges. There are still many 
open issues but I'm currently working on this.


thanks and regards
Uwe

Re: testers needed for LyX\'s Windows installer

[Uwe Stöhr]

Am 06.06.2012 08:42, schrieb rickb...@gmail.com:


If still not working, could you give me a list of new files you see in

MiKTeX's

bin folder


No. I noticed that files were changed because I had the explorer window open
but it happened so fast I couldn't see which ones. The newest date modified
is of January, and newest date created of march. But I've attached a list
with all folder contents.


Thanks. It shows that the perl interpreter is no in place - this worked at 
least.

>> but when I compile a document with multiple
>> indexes, I see only my text and no indexes.

As the Perl interpreter is there, it can be that I need to deliver more of its plugins. To find this 
out, can you please send me your LyX test file?



and do you have a older named "~\MiKTeX 2.9\miktex\lib" which

contains the subfolders Exporter, File, Getopt, IO and warnings?


Yes, that I have. In my program files folder though, not in my home folder.


This is correct.

Note that the installer is not yet ready to be used without admin priviledges. There are still many 
open issues but I'm currently working on this.


thanks and regards
Uwe

RE: testers needed for LyX\'s Windows installer

[rickblok]

 -Original Message-
 From: Uwe Stöhr [mailto:uwesto...@web.de]
 Sent: woensdag 6 juni 2012 0:25
 To: Rick Blok - LR
 Cc: 'lyx-users@lists.lyx.org'
 Subject: Re: testers needed for LyX\'s Windows installer
 
 Am 05.06.2012 21:27, schrieb Rick Blok - LR:
 
  Doesn't work on a computer with admin rights either. I saw that files
were
 added to miktex's bin folder, but when I compile a document with multiple
 indexes, I see only my text and no indexes.
 
 Not good. But does it work if you reconfigure LyX after updating MiKTeX's
file
 name database? 

No.

Of not, does it work if you rebuild MiKTeX's formats (the
 button below refreshing the database), then refresh the file name database
 and then reconfigure LyX?
 

No.

 If still not working, could you give me a list of new files you see in
MiKTeX's
 bin folder

No. I noticed that files were changed because I had the explorer window open
but it happened so fast I couldn't see which ones. The newest date modified
is of January, and newest date created of march. But I've attached a list
with all folder contents. 

and do you have a older named ~\MiKTeX 2.9\miktex\lib which
 contains the subfolders Exporter, File, Getopt, IO and warnings?


Yes, that I have. In my program files folder though, not in my home folder.

Rick

 Many thanks for helping testing and best regards Uwe
 Volume in drive C is Windows
 Volume Serial Number is 9452-6B22

 Directory of c:\Program Files (x86)\MiKTeX 2.9\miktex\bin

06-06-2012  08:19DIR  .
06-06-2012  08:19DIR  ..
29-07-2011  23:3833.792 afm2afm.exe
30-07-2011  00:1576.800 afm2tfm.exe
17-10-2011  15:4934.304 amstex.exe
30-07-2011  00:1633.280 arctrl.exe
29-07-2011  23:3833.792 arlatex.exe
20-02-2011  00:03   138.056 atl100.dll
29-07-2011  23:3833.792 authorindex.exe
29-07-2011  23:3833.792 autoinst.exe
29-07-2011  23:3834.304 bdftops.exe
30-07-2011  00:1117.408 bg5conv.exe
30-07-2011  00:1233.280 bg5latex.exe
30-07-2011  00:1233.280 bg5pdflatex.exe
30-07-2011  00:1233.280 bg5platex.exe
30-07-2011  00:1233.280 bg5pluslatex.exe
30-07-2011  00:1233.280 bg5pluspdflatex.exe
30-07-2011  00:1233.280 bg5ppdflatex.exe
29-07-2011  23:3833.792 bib2xhtml.exe
19-12-2011  20:1611.206.330 biber.exe
29-07-2011  23:3833.792 bibhtml.exe
09-12-2011  10:4533.792 bibtex.exe
30-07-2011  00:10   174.080 bibtex8.exe
29-07-2011  23:3834.304 biokey2html.exe
29-07-2011  23:3833.792 biokey2html1.exe
29-07-2011  23:3833.792 biokey2html2.exe
29-07-2011  23:3833.792 biokey2html3.exe
29-07-2011  23:3833.792 birm.exe
29-07-2011  23:3530.720 bmeps.exe
17-10-2011  15:4934.304 bplain.exe
29-07-2011  23:3833.792 bundledoc.exe
30-07-2011  00:1218.432 cef5conv.exe
30-07-2011  00:1233.280 cef5latex.exe
30-07-2011  00:1233.280 cef5pdflatex.exe
30-07-2011  00:1217.920 cefconv.exe
30-07-2011  00:1233.280 ceflatex.exe
30-07-2011  00:1233.280 cefpdflatex.exe
30-07-2011  00:1218.432 cefsconv.exe
30-07-2011  00:1233.280 cefslatex.exe
30-07-2011  00:1233.280 cefspdflatex.exe
30-07-2011  00:1233.280 cjklatex.exe
29-07-2011  23:3833.792 cmap2enc.exe
17-10-2011  15:4934.304 cslatex.exe
17-10-2011  15:4934.304 csplain.exe
29-07-2011  23:3833.792 csvtools.exe
29-07-2011  23:3488.064 ctangle.exe
29-07-2011  23:3833.792 ctanify.exe
29-07-2011  23:3833.792 ctanupload.exe
29-07-2011  23:34   123.392 cweave.exe
29-07-2011  23:3833.792 dosepsbin.exe
29-07-2011  23:3834.304 dumphint.exe
30-07-2011  00:1333.792 dvicopy.exe
02-08-2011  16:5143.008 dvilualatex.exe
02-08-2011  16:5143.008 dviluatex.exe
30-07-2011  00:1443.008 dvipdfm.exe
30-07-2011  00:1443.008 dvipdfmx.exe
30-07-2011  00:1333.280 dvipdft.exe
30-07-2011  00:15   119.808 dvipng.exe
30-07-2011  00:16   251.392 dvips.exe
29-07-2011  23:44   495.616 dvitomp.exe
29-07-2011  23:3933.792 dvitype.exe
30-07-2011  00:1443.008 ebb.exe
29-07-2011  23:3834.304 eps2eps.exe
30-07-2011  00:1121.504 epsffit.exe
30-07-2011  00:1165.536 epstopdf.exe
17-10-2011  15:4934.304 etex.exe
29-07-2011  23:3833.792 etexdef.exe
29-07-2011  23:3833.792 exceltex.exe
30-07-2011  00:1217.408 extconv.exe
30-07-2011  00:1443.008 extractbb.exe
29-07-2011  23:3450.176 fc-cache.exe
29-07-2011  23:3448.128 fc-cat.exe
29-07-2011  23:34

RE: testers needed for LyX\'s Windows installer

[Rick Blok - LR]

I've just checked the computer were I don't have admin rights, and I don't see 
perl.exe in the bin folder, and I also don't have a lib-folder.

Rick

-Original Message-
From: Uwe Stöhr [mailto:uwesto...@web.de] 
Sent: woensdag 6 juni 2012 0:25
To: Rick Blok - LR
Cc: 'lyx-users@lists.lyx.org'
Subject: Re: testers needed for LyX\'s Windows installer

Am 05.06.2012 21:27, schrieb Rick Blok - LR:

 Doesn't work on a computer with admin rights either. I saw that files were 
 added to miktex's bin folder, but when I compile a document with multiple 
 indexes, I see only my text and no indexes.

Not good. But does it work if you reconfigure LyX after updating MiKTeX's file 
name database? Of not, does it work if you rebuild MiKTeX's formats (the button 
below refreshing the database), then refresh the file name database and then 
reconfigure LyX?

If still not working, could you give me a list of new files you see in MiKTeX's 
bin folder and do you have a older named ~\MiKTeX 2.9\miktex\lib which 
contains the subfolders Exporter, File, Getopt, IO and warnings?

Many thanks for helping testing and best regards Uwe

RE: testers needed for LyX\'s Windows installer

[rickblok]

 -Original Message-
 From: Uwe Stöhr [mailto:uwesto...@web.de]
 Sent: woensdag 6 juni 2012 0:25
 To: Rick Blok - LR
 Cc: 'lyx-users@lists.lyx.org'
 Subject: Re: testers needed for LyX\'s Windows installer
 
 Am 05.06.2012 21:27, schrieb Rick Blok - LR:
 
  Doesn't work on a computer with admin rights either. I saw that files
were
 added to miktex's bin folder, but when I compile a document with multiple
 indexes, I see only my text and no indexes.
 
 Not good. But does it work if you reconfigure LyX after updating MiKTeX's
file
 name database? 

No.

Of not, does it work if you rebuild MiKTeX's formats (the
 button below refreshing the database), then refresh the file name database
 and then reconfigure LyX?
 

No.

 If still not working, could you give me a list of new files you see in
MiKTeX's
 bin folder

No. I noticed that files were changed because I had the explorer window open
but it happened so fast I couldn't see which ones. The newest date modified
is of January, and newest date created of march. But I've attached a list
with all folder contents. 

and do you have a older named ~\MiKTeX 2.9\miktex\lib which
 contains the subfolders Exporter, File, Getopt, IO and warnings?


Yes, that I have. In my program files folder though, not in my home folder.

Rick

 Many thanks for helping testing and best regards Uwe
 Volume in drive C is Windows
 Volume Serial Number is 9452-6B22

 Directory of c:\Program Files (x86)\MiKTeX 2.9\miktex\bin

06-06-2012  08:19DIR  .
06-06-2012  08:19DIR  ..
29-07-2011  23:3833.792 afm2afm.exe
30-07-2011  00:1576.800 afm2tfm.exe
17-10-2011  15:4934.304 amstex.exe
30-07-2011  00:1633.280 arctrl.exe
29-07-2011  23:3833.792 arlatex.exe
20-02-2011  00:03   138.056 atl100.dll
29-07-2011  23:3833.792 authorindex.exe
29-07-2011  23:3833.792 autoinst.exe
29-07-2011  23:3834.304 bdftops.exe
30-07-2011  00:1117.408 bg5conv.exe
30-07-2011  00:1233.280 bg5latex.exe
30-07-2011  00:1233.280 bg5pdflatex.exe
30-07-2011  00:1233.280 bg5platex.exe
30-07-2011  00:1233.280 bg5pluslatex.exe
30-07-2011  00:1233.280 bg5pluspdflatex.exe
30-07-2011  00:1233.280 bg5ppdflatex.exe
29-07-2011  23:3833.792 bib2xhtml.exe
19-12-2011  20:1611.206.330 biber.exe
29-07-2011  23:3833.792 bibhtml.exe
09-12-2011  10:4533.792 bibtex.exe
30-07-2011  00:10   174.080 bibtex8.exe
29-07-2011  23:3834.304 biokey2html.exe
29-07-2011  23:3833.792 biokey2html1.exe
29-07-2011  23:3833.792 biokey2html2.exe
29-07-2011  23:3833.792 biokey2html3.exe
29-07-2011  23:3833.792 birm.exe
29-07-2011  23:3530.720 bmeps.exe
17-10-2011  15:4934.304 bplain.exe
29-07-2011  23:3833.792 bundledoc.exe
30-07-2011  00:1218.432 cef5conv.exe
30-07-2011  00:1233.280 cef5latex.exe
30-07-2011  00:1233.280 cef5pdflatex.exe
30-07-2011  00:1217.920 cefconv.exe
30-07-2011  00:1233.280 ceflatex.exe
30-07-2011  00:1233.280 cefpdflatex.exe
30-07-2011  00:1218.432 cefsconv.exe
30-07-2011  00:1233.280 cefslatex.exe
30-07-2011  00:1233.280 cefspdflatex.exe
30-07-2011  00:1233.280 cjklatex.exe
29-07-2011  23:3833.792 cmap2enc.exe
17-10-2011  15:4934.304 cslatex.exe
17-10-2011  15:4934.304 csplain.exe
29-07-2011  23:3833.792 csvtools.exe
29-07-2011  23:3488.064 ctangle.exe
29-07-2011  23:3833.792 ctanify.exe
29-07-2011  23:3833.792 ctanupload.exe
29-07-2011  23:34   123.392 cweave.exe
29-07-2011  23:3833.792 dosepsbin.exe
29-07-2011  23:3834.304 dumphint.exe
30-07-2011  00:1333.792 dvicopy.exe
02-08-2011  16:5143.008 dvilualatex.exe
02-08-2011  16:5143.008 dviluatex.exe
30-07-2011  00:1443.008 dvipdfm.exe
30-07-2011  00:1443.008 dvipdfmx.exe
30-07-2011  00:1333.280 dvipdft.exe
30-07-2011  00:15   119.808 dvipng.exe
30-07-2011  00:16   251.392 dvips.exe
29-07-2011  23:44   495.616 dvitomp.exe
29-07-2011  23:3933.792 dvitype.exe
30-07-2011  00:1443.008 ebb.exe
29-07-2011  23:3834.304 eps2eps.exe
30-07-2011  00:1121.504 epsffit.exe
30-07-2011  00:1165.536 epstopdf.exe
17-10-2011  15:4934.304 etex.exe
29-07-2011  23:3833.792 etexdef.exe
29-07-2011  23:3833.792 exceltex.exe
30-07-2011  00:1217.408 extconv.exe
30-07-2011  00:1443.008 extractbb.exe
29-07-2011  23:3450.176 fc-cache.exe
29-07-2011  23:3448.128 fc-cat.exe
29-07-2011  23:34

RE: testers needed for LyX\'s Windows installer

[Rick Blok - LR]

I've just checked the computer were I don't have admin rights, and I don't see 
perl.exe in the bin folder, and I also don't have a lib-folder.

Rick

-Original Message-
From: Uwe Stöhr [mailto:uwesto...@web.de] 
Sent: woensdag 6 juni 2012 0:25
To: Rick Blok - LR
Cc: 'lyx-users@lists.lyx.org'
Subject: Re: testers needed for LyX\'s Windows installer

Am 05.06.2012 21:27, schrieb Rick Blok - LR:

 Doesn't work on a computer with admin rights either. I saw that files were 
 added to miktex's bin folder, but when I compile a document with multiple 
 indexes, I see only my text and no indexes.

Not good. But does it work if you reconfigure LyX after updating MiKTeX's file 
name database? Of not, does it work if you rebuild MiKTeX's formats (the button 
below refreshing the database), then refresh the file name database and then 
reconfigure LyX?

If still not working, could you give me a list of new files you see in MiKTeX's 
bin folder and do you have a older named ~\MiKTeX 2.9\miktex\lib which 
contains the subfolders Exporter, File, Getopt, IO and warnings?

Many thanks for helping testing and best regards Uwe

RE: testers needed for LyX\'s Windows installer

[rickblok]

> -Original Message-
> From: Uwe Stöhr [mailto:uwesto...@web.de]
> Sent: woensdag 6 juni 2012 0:25
> To: Rick Blok - LR
> Cc: 'lyx-users@lists.lyx.org'
> Subject: Re: testers needed for LyX\'s Windows installer
> 
> Am 05.06.2012 21:27, schrieb Rick Blok - LR:
> 
> > Doesn't work on a computer with admin rights either. I saw that files
were
> added to miktex's bin folder, but when I compile a document with multiple
> indexes, I see only my text and no indexes.
> 
> Not good. But does it work if you reconfigure LyX after updating MiKTeX's
file
> name database? 

No.

>Of not, does it work if you rebuild MiKTeX's formats (the
> button below refreshing the database), then refresh the file name database
> and then reconfigure LyX?
> 

No.

> If still not working, could you give me a list of new files you see in
MiKTeX's
> bin folder

No. I noticed that files were changed because I had the explorer window open
but it happened so fast I couldn't see which ones. The newest date modified
is of January, and newest date created of march. But I've attached a list
with all folder contents. 

and do you have a older named "~\MiKTeX 2.9\miktex\lib" which
> contains the subfolders Exporter, File, Getopt, IO and warnings?
>

Yes, that I have. In my program files folder though, not in my home folder.

Rick

> Many thanks for helping testing and best regards Uwe
 Volume in drive C is Windows
 Volume Serial Number is 9452-6B22

 Directory of c:\Program Files (x86)\MiKTeX 2.9\miktex\bin

06-06-2012  08:19  .
06-06-2012  08:19  ..
29-07-2011  23:3833.792 afm2afm.exe
30-07-2011  00:1576.800 afm2tfm.exe
17-10-2011  15:4934.304 amstex.exe
30-07-2011  00:1633.280 arctrl.exe
29-07-2011  23:3833.792 arlatex.exe
20-02-2011  00:03   138.056 atl100.dll
29-07-2011  23:3833.792 authorindex.exe
29-07-2011  23:3833.792 autoinst.exe
29-07-2011  23:3834.304 bdftops.exe
30-07-2011  00:1117.408 bg5conv.exe
30-07-2011  00:1233.280 bg5latex.exe
30-07-2011  00:1233.280 bg5pdflatex.exe
30-07-2011  00:1233.280 bg5platex.exe
30-07-2011  00:1233.280 bg5pluslatex.exe
30-07-2011  00:1233.280 bg5pluspdflatex.exe
30-07-2011  00:1233.280 bg5ppdflatex.exe
29-07-2011  23:3833.792 bib2xhtml.exe
19-12-2011  20:1611.206.330 biber.exe
29-07-2011  23:3833.792 bibhtml.exe
09-12-2011  10:4533.792 bibtex.exe
30-07-2011  00:10   174.080 bibtex8.exe
29-07-2011  23:3834.304 biokey2html.exe
29-07-2011  23:3833.792 biokey2html1.exe
29-07-2011  23:3833.792 biokey2html2.exe
29-07-2011  23:3833.792 biokey2html3.exe
29-07-2011  23:3833.792 birm.exe
29-07-2011  23:3530.720 bmeps.exe
17-10-2011  15:4934.304 bplain.exe
29-07-2011  23:3833.792 bundledoc.exe
30-07-2011  00:1218.432 cef5conv.exe
30-07-2011  00:1233.280 cef5latex.exe
30-07-2011  00:1233.280 cef5pdflatex.exe
30-07-2011  00:1217.920 cefconv.exe
30-07-2011  00:1233.280 ceflatex.exe
30-07-2011  00:1233.280 cefpdflatex.exe
30-07-2011  00:1218.432 cefsconv.exe
30-07-2011  00:1233.280 cefslatex.exe
30-07-2011  00:1233.280 cefspdflatex.exe
30-07-2011  00:1233.280 cjklatex.exe
29-07-2011  23:3833.792 cmap2enc.exe
17-10-2011  15:4934.304 cslatex.exe
17-10-2011  15:4934.304 csplain.exe
29-07-2011  23:3833.792 csvtools.exe
29-07-2011  23:3488.064 ctangle.exe
29-07-2011  23:3833.792 ctanify.exe
29-07-2011  23:3833.792 ctanupload.exe
29-07-2011  23:34   123.392 cweave.exe
29-07-2011  23:3833.792 dosepsbin.exe
29-07-2011  23:3834.304 dumphint.exe
30-07-2011  00:1333.792 dvicopy.exe
02-08-2011  16:5143.008 dvilualatex.exe
02-08-2011  16:5143.008 dviluatex.exe
30-07-2011  00:1443.008 dvipdfm.exe
30-07-2011  00:1443.008 dvipdfmx.exe
30-07-2011  00:1333.280 dvipdft.exe
30-07-2011  00:15   119.808 dvipng.exe
30-07-2011  00:16   251.392 dvips.exe
29-07-2011  23:44   495.616 dvitomp.exe
29-07-2011  23:3933.792 dvitype.exe
30-07-2011  00:1443.008 ebb.exe
29-07-2011  23:3834.304 eps2eps.exe
30-07-2011  00:1121.504 epsffit.exe
30-07-2011  00:1165.536 epstopdf.exe
17-10-2011  15:4934.304 etex.exe
29-07-2011  23:3833.792 etexdef.exe
29-07-2011  23:3833.792 exceltex.exe
30-07-2011  00:1217.408 extconv.exe
30-07-2011  00:1443.008 extractbb.exe
29

RE: testers needed for LyX\'s Windows installer

[Rick Blok - LR]

I've just checked the computer were I don't have admin rights, and I don't see 
perl.exe in the bin folder, and I also don't have a lib-folder.

Rick

-Original Message-
From: Uwe Stöhr [mailto:uwesto...@web.de] 
Sent: woensdag 6 juni 2012 0:25
To: Rick Blok - LR
Cc: 'lyx-users@lists.lyx.org'
Subject: Re: testers needed for LyX\'s Windows installer

Am 05.06.2012 21:27, schrieb Rick Blok - LR:

> Doesn't work on a computer with admin rights either. I saw that files were 
> added to miktex's bin folder, but when I compile a document with multiple 
> indexes, I see only my text and no indexes.

Not good. But does it work if you reconfigure LyX after updating MiKTeX's file 
name database? Of not, does it work if you rebuild MiKTeX's formats (the button 
below refreshing the database), then refresh the file name database and then 
reconfigure LyX?

If still not working, could you give me a list of new files you see in MiKTeX's 
bin folder and do you have a older named "~\MiKTeX 2.9\miktex\lib" which 
contains the subfolders Exporter, File, Getopt, IO and warnings?

Many thanks for helping testing and best regards Uwe

RE: testers needed for LyX\'s Windows installer

[Rick Blok - LR]

I've noticed the warning in the installer, but I've installed 2.0.3 in the same 
way and I haven't noticed any problems. MikTeX is the portable version and sits 
in a directory were I've got write access. Lyx is using it (got multiple 
versions on the computer) since the right folder is in lyxrc.dist, preferences 
dialog and in tex information, and I've got no latex in my path. I can't see 
any new files in MikTeX's bin folder.

I will try later on a computer were I've got admin privileges.

Kind regards,
Rick Blok


-Original Message-
From: Uwe Stöhr [mailto:uwesto...@web.de] 
Sent: maandag 4 juni 2012 22:56
To: Rick Blok - LR
Cc: 'lyx-users@lists.lyx.org'
Subject: Re: testers needed for LyX\'s Windows installer

Am 04.06.2012 11:23, schrieb Rick Blok - LR:

 I can't seem to get the split indexes feature to work using Miktex portable 
 on win7 w/o admin rights.

The installer in general still requires admin privileges. The problem is in one 
hand Imagemagick and on the other hand MiKTeX. For MiKTeX I did not yet find 
time to check the case that MiKTeX was installed as admin, but LyX not. Then it 
is impossible to enable splitindex and some other features because files like a 
Perl interpreter need to be added to MiKTeX's bin folder. If it was installed 
as admin, LyX installed as user can't write in this directory.

So does it work if you install the test release with admin privileges?

regards Uwe

Re: testers needed for LyX's Windows installer

[ehud.kaplan]

If I understand correctly, the Windows version will have features that 
are not available in the Linux or Mac versions.  I hope this is not 
true-- those of us who have been living in the MS-free world hope

that /all/ the features will be available in all the versions.
EK

On 06/03/2012 06:28 PM, Uwe Stöhr wrote:

Dear LyXers,

LyX 2.0.4 is coming soon and it will fix some Windows-specific bugs:

- It is now possible to use LyX's split index feature (several 
indexes for a document) on Windows


- Spell checking dictionaries are now also available for Basque, Upper 
Sorbian and Interlingua


- Spell checking now also works for Esperanto, Farsi, Korean and Latin,

In order to fix this, the upcoming new LyX for Windows installer was 
modified so that you can select which dictionaries you want to 
install. This saves a lot of download and disk space as nobody needs 
all dictionaries (would be 300 MB).
To get the split index feature working the installer comes now with an 
as small as possible Perl script interpreter which will be installed 
to MiKTeX.


As the changes in the installer are a lot and as I cannot test all 
possible language/dictionary combinations, I would like if interested 
LyXers could help me testing. Especially for the split index feature, 
I expect some things that are not yet working. (This LyX feature is 
described in sec. 6.6.7 of the UserGuide)


Here is the testing installer:
http://sourceforge.net/projects/lyxwininstaller/files/TestRelease/
It will install the upcoming LyX 2.0.4 and should be fully functional 
and stable as LyX 2.0.3. If you find any problem, please report back.

To test it you don't have to uninstall LyX 2.0.3.

thanks in advance and regards
Uwe



--
Ehud Kaplan, Ph.D.
Jules and Doris Stein /Research to Prevent Blindness/ Professor
*Director*, The laboratory of Visual  Computational Neuroscience
*Director*, Center for Excellence in Computational  Systems Neuroscience
/Friedman Brain Institute/
Departments of Neuroscience, Ophthalmology, Structural  Chemical Biology,
The Mount Sinai School of Medicine
One Gustave Levy Place,
NY, NY, 10029

Re: testers needed for LyX's Windows installer

[Jürgen Spitzmüller]

2012/6/5 ehud.kaplan ehud.kap...@gmail.com:
 If I understand correctly, the Windows version will have features that are
 not available in the Linux or Mac versions.  I hope this is not true

No, it's not true. Uwe fixed a feature that was broken on Windows (but
works on other OSes).

Jürgen

RE: testers needed for LyX\'s Windows installer

[Rick Blok - LR]

Doesn't work on a computer with admin rights either. I saw that files were 
added to miktex's bin folder, but when I compile a document with multiple 
indexes, I see only my text and no indexes. I updated miktex, but that also 
didn't help.

Rick

From: Uwe Stöhr [uwesto...@web.de]
Sent: Monday, June 04, 2012 10:55 PM
To: Rick Blok - LR
Cc: 'lyx-users@lists.lyx.org'
Subject: Re: testers needed for LyX\'s Windows installer

Am 04.06.2012 11:23, schrieb Rick Blok - LR:

 I can't seem to get the split indexes feature to work using Miktex portable 
 on win7 w/o admin rights.

The installer in general still requires admin privileges. The problem is in one 
hand Imagemagick and
on the other hand MiKTeX. For MiKTeX I did not yet find time to check the case 
that MiKTeX was
installed as admin, but LyX not. Then it is impossible to enable splitindex and 
some other features
because files like a Perl interpreter need to be added to MiKTeX's bin folder. 
If it was installed
as admin, LyX installed as user can't write in this directory.

So does it work if you install the test release with admin privileges?

regards Uwe

Re: testers needed for LyX\'s Windows installer

[Uwe Stöhr]

Am 05.06.2012 21:27, schrieb Rick Blok - LR:


Doesn't work on a computer with admin rights either. I saw that files were 
added to miktex's bin folder, but when I compile a document with multiple 
indexes, I see only my text and no indexes.


Not good. But does it work if you reconfigure LyX after updating MiKTeX's file name database? Of 
not, does it work if you rebuild MiKTeX's formats (the button below refreshing the database), then 
refresh the file name database and then reconfigure LyX?


If still not working, could you give me a list of new files you see in MiKTeX's bin folder and do 
you have a older named ~\MiKTeX 2.9\miktex\lib which contains the subfolders Exporter, File, 
Getopt, IO and warnings?


Many thanks for helping testing and best regards
Uwe

RE: testers needed for LyX\'s Windows installer

[Rick Blok - LR]

I've noticed the warning in the installer, but I've installed 2.0.3 in the same 
way and I haven't noticed any problems. MikTeX is the portable version and sits 
in a directory were I've got write access. Lyx is using it (got multiple 
versions on the computer) since the right folder is in lyxrc.dist, preferences 
dialog and in tex information, and I've got no latex in my path. I can't see 
any new files in MikTeX's bin folder.

I will try later on a computer were I've got admin privileges.

Kind regards,
Rick Blok


-Original Message-
From: Uwe Stöhr [mailto:uwesto...@web.de] 
Sent: maandag 4 juni 2012 22:56
To: Rick Blok - LR
Cc: 'lyx-users@lists.lyx.org'
Subject: Re: testers needed for LyX\'s Windows installer

Am 04.06.2012 11:23, schrieb Rick Blok - LR:

 I can't seem to get the split indexes feature to work using Miktex portable 
 on win7 w/o admin rights.

The installer in general still requires admin privileges. The problem is in one 
hand Imagemagick and on the other hand MiKTeX. For MiKTeX I did not yet find 
time to check the case that MiKTeX was installed as admin, but LyX not. Then it 
is impossible to enable splitindex and some other features because files like a 
Perl interpreter need to be added to MiKTeX's bin folder. If it was installed 
as admin, LyX installed as user can't write in this directory.

So does it work if you install the test release with admin privileges?

regards Uwe

Re: testers needed for LyX's Windows installer

[ehud.kaplan]

If I understand correctly, the Windows version will have features that 
are not available in the Linux or Mac versions.  I hope this is not 
true-- those of us who have been living in the MS-free world hope

that /all/ the features will be available in all the versions.
EK

On 06/03/2012 06:28 PM, Uwe Stöhr wrote:

Dear LyXers,

LyX 2.0.4 is coming soon and it will fix some Windows-specific bugs:

- It is now possible to use LyX's split index feature (several 
indexes for a document) on Windows


- Spell checking dictionaries are now also available for Basque, Upper 
Sorbian and Interlingua


- Spell checking now also works for Esperanto, Farsi, Korean and Latin,

In order to fix this, the upcoming new LyX for Windows installer was 
modified so that you can select which dictionaries you want to 
install. This saves a lot of download and disk space as nobody needs 
all dictionaries (would be 300 MB).
To get the split index feature working the installer comes now with an 
as small as possible Perl script interpreter which will be installed 
to MiKTeX.


As the changes in the installer are a lot and as I cannot test all 
possible language/dictionary combinations, I would like if interested 
LyXers could help me testing. Especially for the split index feature, 
I expect some things that are not yet working. (This LyX feature is 
described in sec. 6.6.7 of the UserGuide)


Here is the testing installer:
http://sourceforge.net/projects/lyxwininstaller/files/TestRelease/
It will install the upcoming LyX 2.0.4 and should be fully functional 
and stable as LyX 2.0.3. If you find any problem, please report back.

To test it you don't have to uninstall LyX 2.0.3.

thanks in advance and regards
Uwe



--
Ehud Kaplan, Ph.D.
Jules and Doris Stein /Research to Prevent Blindness/ Professor
*Director*, The laboratory of Visual  Computational Neuroscience
*Director*, Center for Excellence in Computational  Systems Neuroscience
/Friedman Brain Institute/
Departments of Neuroscience, Ophthalmology, Structural  Chemical Biology,
The Mount Sinai School of Medicine
One Gustave Levy Place,
NY, NY, 10029

Re: testers needed for LyX's Windows installer

[Jürgen Spitzmüller]

2012/6/5 ehud.kaplan ehud.kap...@gmail.com:
 If I understand correctly, the Windows version will have features that are
 not available in the Linux or Mac versions.  I hope this is not true

No, it's not true. Uwe fixed a feature that was broken on Windows (but
works on other OSes).

Jürgen

RE: testers needed for LyX\'s Windows installer

[Rick Blok - LR]

Doesn't work on a computer with admin rights either. I saw that files were 
added to miktex's bin folder, but when I compile a document with multiple 
indexes, I see only my text and no indexes. I updated miktex, but that also 
didn't help.

Rick

From: Uwe Stöhr [uwesto...@web.de]
Sent: Monday, June 04, 2012 10:55 PM
To: Rick Blok - LR
Cc: 'lyx-users@lists.lyx.org'
Subject: Re: testers needed for LyX\'s Windows installer

Am 04.06.2012 11:23, schrieb Rick Blok - LR:

 I can't seem to get the split indexes feature to work using Miktex portable 
 on win7 w/o admin rights.

The installer in general still requires admin privileges. The problem is in one 
hand Imagemagick and
on the other hand MiKTeX. For MiKTeX I did not yet find time to check the case 
that MiKTeX was
installed as admin, but LyX not. Then it is impossible to enable splitindex and 
some other features
because files like a Perl interpreter need to be added to MiKTeX's bin folder. 
If it was installed
as admin, LyX installed as user can't write in this directory.

So does it work if you install the test release with admin privileges?

regards Uwe

Re: testers needed for LyX\'s Windows installer

[Uwe Stöhr]

Am 05.06.2012 21:27, schrieb Rick Blok - LR:


Doesn't work on a computer with admin rights either. I saw that files were 
added to miktex's bin folder, but when I compile a document with multiple 
indexes, I see only my text and no indexes.


Not good. But does it work if you reconfigure LyX after updating MiKTeX's file name database? Of 
not, does it work if you rebuild MiKTeX's formats (the button below refreshing the database), then 
refresh the file name database and then reconfigure LyX?


If still not working, could you give me a list of new files you see in MiKTeX's bin folder and do 
you have a older named ~\MiKTeX 2.9\miktex\lib which contains the subfolders Exporter, File, 
Getopt, IO and warnings?


Many thanks for helping testing and best regards
Uwe

RE: testers needed for LyX\'s Windows installer

[Rick Blok - LR]

I've noticed the warning in the installer, but I've installed 2.0.3 in the same 
way and I haven't noticed any problems. MikTeX is the portable version and sits 
in a directory were I've got write access. Lyx is using it (got multiple 
versions on the computer) since the right folder is in lyxrc.dist, preferences 
dialog and in tex information, and I've got no latex in my path. I can't see 
any new files in MikTeX's bin folder.

I will try later on a computer were I've got admin privileges.

Kind regards,
Rick Blok


-Original Message-
From: Uwe Stöhr [mailto:uwesto...@web.de] 
Sent: maandag 4 juni 2012 22:56
To: Rick Blok - LR
Cc: 'lyx-users@lists.lyx.org'
Subject: Re: testers needed for LyX\'s Windows installer

Am 04.06.2012 11:23, schrieb Rick Blok - LR:

> I can't seem to get the split indexes feature to work using Miktex portable 
> on win7 w/o admin rights.

The installer in general still requires admin privileges. The problem is in one 
hand Imagemagick and on the other hand MiKTeX. For MiKTeX I did not yet find 
time to check the case that MiKTeX was installed as admin, but LyX not. Then it 
is impossible to enable splitindex and some other features because files like a 
Perl interpreter need to be added to MiKTeX's bin folder. If it was installed 
as admin, LyX installed as user can't write in this directory.

So does it work if you install the test release with admin privileges?

regards Uwe

Re: testers needed for LyX's Windows installer

[ehud.kaplan]

If I understand correctly, the Windows version will have features that 
are not available in the Linux or Mac versions.  I hope this is not 
true-- those of us who have been living in the MS-free world hope

that /all/ the features will be available in all the versions.
EK

On 06/03/2012 06:28 PM, Uwe Stöhr wrote:

Dear LyXers,

LyX 2.0.4 is coming soon and it will fix some Windows-specific bugs:

- It is now possible to use LyX's "split index" feature (several 
indexes for a document) on Windows


- Spell checking dictionaries are now also available for Basque, Upper 
Sorbian and Interlingua


- Spell checking now also works for Esperanto, Farsi, Korean and Latin,

In order to fix this, the upcoming new LyX for Windows installer was 
modified so that you can select which dictionaries you want to 
install. This saves a lot of download and disk space as nobody needs 
all dictionaries (would be 300 MB).
To get the split index feature working the installer comes now with an 
as small as possible Perl script interpreter which will be installed 
to MiKTeX.


As the changes in the installer are a lot and as I cannot test all 
possible language/dictionary combinations, I would like if interested 
LyXers could help me testing. Especially for the split index feature, 
I expect some things that are not yet working. (This LyX feature is 
described in sec. 6.6.7 of the UserGuide)


Here is the testing installer:
http://sourceforge.net/projects/lyxwininstaller/files/TestRelease/
It will install the upcoming LyX 2.0.4 and should be fully functional 
and stable as LyX 2.0.3. If you find any problem, please report back.

To test it you don't have to uninstall LyX 2.0.3.

thanks in advance and regards
Uwe



--
Ehud Kaplan, Ph.D.
Jules and Doris Stein /Research to Prevent Blindness/ Professor
*Director*, The laboratory of Visual & Computational Neuroscience
*Director*, Center for Excellence in Computational & Systems Neuroscience
/Friedman Brain Institute/
Departments of Neuroscience, Ophthalmology, Structural & Chemical Biology,
The Mount Sinai School of Medicine
One Gustave Levy Place,
NY, NY, 10029

Re: testers needed for LyX's Windows installer

[Jürgen Spitzmüller]

2012/6/5 ehud.kaplan :
> If I understand correctly, the Windows version will have features that are
> not available in the Linux or Mac versions.  I hope this is not true

No, it's not true. Uwe fixed a feature that was broken on Windows (but
works on other OSes).

Jürgen

RE: testers needed for LyX\'s Windows installer

[Rick Blok - LR]

Doesn't work on a computer with admin rights either. I saw that files were 
added to miktex's bin folder, but when I compile a document with multiple 
indexes, I see only my text and no indexes. I updated miktex, but that also 
didn't help.

Rick

From: Uwe Stöhr [uwesto...@web.de]
Sent: Monday, June 04, 2012 10:55 PM
To: Rick Blok - LR
Cc: 'lyx-users@lists.lyx.org'
Subject: Re: testers needed for LyX\'s Windows installer

Am 04.06.2012 11:23, schrieb Rick Blok - LR:

> I can't seem to get the split indexes feature to work using Miktex portable 
> on win7 w/o admin rights.

The installer in general still requires admin privileges. The problem is in one 
hand Imagemagick and
on the other hand MiKTeX. For MiKTeX I did not yet find time to check the case 
that MiKTeX was
installed as admin, but LyX not. Then it is impossible to enable splitindex and 
some other features
because files like a Perl interpreter need to be added to MiKTeX's bin folder. 
If it was installed
as admin, LyX installed as user can't write in this directory.

So does it work if you install the test release with admin privileges?

regards Uwe

Re: testers needed for LyX\'s Windows installer

[Uwe Stöhr]

Am 05.06.2012 21:27, schrieb Rick Blok - LR:


Doesn't work on a computer with admin rights either. I saw that files were 
added to miktex's bin folder, but when I compile a document with multiple 
indexes, I see only my text and no indexes.


Not good. But does it work if you reconfigure LyX after updating MiKTeX's file name database? Of 
not, does it work if you rebuild MiKTeX's formats (the button below refreshing the database), then 
refresh the file name database and then reconfigure LyX?


If still not working, could you give me a list of new files you see in MiKTeX's bin folder and do 
you have a older named "~\MiKTeX 2.9\miktex\lib" which contains the subfolders Exporter, File, 
Getopt, IO and warnings?


Many thanks for helping testing and best regards
Uwe

testers needed for LyX\'s Windows installer

[Rick Blok - LR]

I can't seem to get the split indexes feature to work using Miktex portable on 
win7 w/o admin rights. If I disable multiple indices, pdf output shows an 
index, but it shows only my text when it's enabled.

Dutch spell check works.

Kind regards,
Rick Blok

Re: testers needed for LyX\'s Windows installer

[Uwe Stöhr]

Am 04.06.2012 11:23, schrieb Rick Blok - LR:


I can't seem to get the split indexes feature to work using Miktex portable on 
win7 w/o admin rights.


The installer in general still requires admin privileges. The problem is in one hand Imagemagick and 
on the other hand MiKTeX. For MiKTeX I did not yet find time to check the case that MiKTeX was 
installed as admin, but LyX not. Then it is impossible to enable splitindex and some other features 
because files like a Perl interpreter need to be added to MiKTeX's bin folder. If it was installed 
as admin, LyX installed as user can't write in this directory.


So does it work if you install the test release with admin privileges?

regards Uwe

testers needed for LyX\'s Windows installer

[Rick Blok - LR]

I can't seem to get the split indexes feature to work using Miktex portable on 
win7 w/o admin rights. If I disable multiple indices, pdf output shows an 
index, but it shows only my text when it's enabled.

Dutch spell check works.

Kind regards,
Rick Blok

Re: testers needed for LyX\'s Windows installer

[Uwe Stöhr]

Am 04.06.2012 11:23, schrieb Rick Blok - LR:


I can't seem to get the split indexes feature to work using Miktex portable on 
win7 w/o admin rights.


The installer in general still requires admin privileges. The problem is in one hand Imagemagick and 
on the other hand MiKTeX. For MiKTeX I did not yet find time to check the case that MiKTeX was 
installed as admin, but LyX not. Then it is impossible to enable splitindex and some other features 
because files like a Perl interpreter need to be added to MiKTeX's bin folder. If it was installed 
as admin, LyX installed as user can't write in this directory.


So does it work if you install the test release with admin privileges?

regards Uwe

testers needed for LyX\'s Windows installer

[Rick Blok - LR]

I can't seem to get the split indexes feature to work using Miktex portable on 
win7 w/o admin rights. If I disable multiple indices, pdf output shows an 
index, but it shows only my text when it's enabled.

Dutch spell check works.

Kind regards,
Rick Blok

Re: testers needed for LyX\'s Windows installer

[Uwe Stöhr]

Am 04.06.2012 11:23, schrieb Rick Blok - LR:


I can't seem to get the split indexes feature to work using Miktex portable on 
win7 w/o admin rights.


The installer in general still requires admin privileges. The problem is in one hand Imagemagick and 
on the other hand MiKTeX. For MiKTeX I did not yet find time to check the case that MiKTeX was 
installed as admin, but LyX not. Then it is impossible to enable splitindex and some other features 
because files like a Perl interpreter need to be added to MiKTeX's bin folder. If it was installed 
as admin, LyX installed as user can't write in this directory.


So does it work if you install the test release with admin privileges?

regards Uwe

testers needed for LyX's Windows installer

[Uwe Stöhr]

Dear LyXers,

LyX 2.0.4 is coming soon and it will fix some Windows-specific bugs:

- It is now possible to use LyX's split index feature (several indexes for a 
document) on Windows

- Spell checking dictionaries are now also available for Basque, Upper Sorbian 
and Interlingua

- Spell checking now also works for Esperanto, Farsi, Korean and Latin,

In order to fix this, the upcoming new LyX for Windows installer was modified so that you can select 
which dictionaries you want to install. This saves a lot of download and disk space as nobody needs 
all dictionaries (would be 300 MB).
To get the split index feature working the installer comes now with an as small as possible Perl 
script interpreter which will be installed to MiKTeX.


As the changes in the installer are a lot and as I cannot test all possible language/dictionary 
combinations, I would like if interested LyXers could help me testing. Especially for the split 
index feature, I expect some things that are not yet working. (This LyX feature is described in sec. 
6.6.7 of the UserGuide)


Here is the testing installer:
http://sourceforge.net/projects/lyxwininstaller/files/TestRelease/
It will install the upcoming LyX 2.0.4 and should be fully functional and stable as LyX 2.0.3. If 
you find any problem, please report back.

To test it you don't have to uninstall LyX 2.0.3.

thanks in advance and regards
Uwe

testers needed for LyX's Windows installer

[Uwe Stöhr]

Dear LyXers,

LyX 2.0.4 is coming soon and it will fix some Windows-specific bugs:

- It is now possible to use LyX's split index feature (several indexes for a 
document) on Windows

- Spell checking dictionaries are now also available for Basque, Upper Sorbian 
and Interlingua

- Spell checking now also works for Esperanto, Farsi, Korean and Latin,

In order to fix this, the upcoming new LyX for Windows installer was modified so that you can select 
which dictionaries you want to install. This saves a lot of download and disk space as nobody needs 
all dictionaries (would be 300 MB).
To get the split index feature working the installer comes now with an as small as possible Perl 
script interpreter which will be installed to MiKTeX.


As the changes in the installer are a lot and as I cannot test all possible language/dictionary 
combinations, I would like if interested LyXers could help me testing. Especially for the split 
index feature, I expect some things that are not yet working. (This LyX feature is described in sec. 
6.6.7 of the UserGuide)


Here is the testing installer:
http://sourceforge.net/projects/lyxwininstaller/files/TestRelease/
It will install the upcoming LyX 2.0.4 and should be fully functional and stable as LyX 2.0.3. If 
you find any problem, please report back.

To test it you don't have to uninstall LyX 2.0.3.

thanks in advance and regards
Uwe