Re: [M100] TPDD/TPDD2 Floppy Drive Belts and TPDD2 Boot Floppy

[James Zeun]

I'm in the Uk

On Tue, 28 Nov 2023, 3:02 pm Ken Gregg,  wrote:

>
> I did see your message. Sorry I didn't address the belt and focused only
> on your floppy diskette question.
>
> If you'd like to order one or more drive belts from me, you can so do
> through the ebay link:
>
> https://www.ebay.com/itm/304695833943
>
>
> On 11/28/2023 7:23 AM, James Zeun wrote:
>
> Hi Ken did you see my message? I'm interesting in having a belt.
>
> On Tue, 28 Nov 2023 at 04:28, Ken Gregg  wrote:
>
>>
>> Sorry, I only have the TPDD2 utility floppy.
>>
>> I don't have the TPDD(1) floppies, and don't have a TPDD(1) drive to
>> test on.
>>
>> The belts are compatible with either the TPDD(1) or TPDD2 drives.
>>
>>
>> On 11/27/2023 1:54 PM, runrin wrote:
>> > I've actually had my eye on both of these listings for a while, but I've
>> > held off due to the high prices of TPDD2s. I will likely get an FB100
>> > eventually, since that seems like the cheapest option.
>> >
>> > I assume there is a similar utility floppy for the TPDD1. You don't have
>> > any of those do you?
>> >
>> > On Sun, Nov 26, 2023 at 08:18:28AM -0700, Ken Gregg wrote:
>> >> Happy Holidays, all!
>> >>
>> >> On ebay, I still have a small supply of brand new floppy drive
>> belts
>> >> for Tandy Portable Disk Drive (TPDD) and Tandy Portable Disk Drive
>> 2
>> >> (TPDD2) drives, and a smaller supply of tested Utility floppy
>> diskettes
>> >> for the TPDD2 (created on new old stock SSDD diskettes).
>> >>
>> >> I decided today that, once this small stock is depleted, I will no
>> >> longer be offering these again.
>> >>
>> >> So, now's your chance to stock up. Discounts up to are applied
>> when you
>> >> purchase more than one of each.
>> >>
>> >> Floppy Drive Belt for Tandy Portable Disk Drive TPDD1 26-3808 or
>> TPDD2
>> >> 26-3814:  [1]https://www.ebay.com/itm/304695833943
>> >>
>> >> Tandy Portable Disk Drive 2 Utility Floppy 26-3814, tested on two
>> TPDD2
>> >> drives:  [2]https://www.ebay.com/itm/305217850778
>> >>
>> >> References
>> >>
>> >> 1. https://www.ebay.com/itm/304695833943
>> >> 2. https://www.ebay.com/itm/305217850778
>>
>
>
> --
> My retro tech blog and general ramblings
> http://bytemyvdu.wordpress.com/
>
>

Re: [M100] TPDD/TPDD2 Floppy Drive Belts and TPDD2 Boot Floppy

[James Zeun]

Hi Ken did you see my message? I'm interesting in having a belt.

On Tue, 28 Nov 2023 at 04:28, Ken Gregg  wrote:

>
> Sorry, I only have the TPDD2 utility floppy.
>
> I don't have the TPDD(1) floppies, and don't have a TPDD(1) drive to
> test on.
>
> The belts are compatible with either the TPDD(1) or TPDD2 drives.
>
>
> On 11/27/2023 1:54 PM, runrin wrote:
> > I've actually had my eye on both of these listings for a while, but I've
> > held off due to the high prices of TPDD2s. I will likely get an FB100
> > eventually, since that seems like the cheapest option.
> >
> > I assume there is a similar utility floppy for the TPDD1. You don't have
> > any of those do you?
> >
> > On Sun, Nov 26, 2023 at 08:18:28AM -0700, Ken Gregg wrote:
> >> Happy Holidays, all!
> >>
> >> On ebay, I still have a small supply of brand new floppy drive belts
> >> for Tandy Portable Disk Drive (TPDD) and Tandy Portable Disk Drive 2
> >> (TPDD2) drives, and a smaller supply of tested Utility floppy
> diskettes
> >> for the TPDD2 (created on new old stock SSDD diskettes).
> >>
> >> I decided today that, once this small stock is depleted, I will no
> >> longer be offering these again.
> >>
> >> So, now's your chance to stock up. Discounts up to are applied when
> you
> >> purchase more than one of each.
> >>
> >> Floppy Drive Belt for Tandy Portable Disk Drive TPDD1 26-3808 or
> TPDD2
> >> 26-3814:  [1]https://www.ebay.com/itm/304695833943
> >>
> >> Tandy Portable Disk Drive 2 Utility Floppy 26-3814, tested on two
> TPDD2
> >> drives:  [2]https://www.ebay.com/itm/305217850778
> >>
> >> References
> >>
> >> 1. https://www.ebay.com/itm/304695833943
> >> 2. https://www.ebay.com/itm/305217850778
>


-- 
My retro tech blog and general ramblings
http://bytemyvdu.wordpress.com/

Re: [M100] TPDD/TPDD2 Floppy Drive Belts and TPDD2 Boot Floppy

[James Zeun]

Hi Ken

I have a working disk drive for my M100, but I'd be interested in having a
spare belt.

However I noticed you don't ship to England

On Sun, 26 Nov 2023 at 15:20, Ken Gregg  wrote:

>
> Happy Holidays, all!
>
> On ebay, I still have a small supply of brand new floppy drive belts for
> Tandy Portable Disk Drive (TPDD) and Tandy Portable Disk Drive 2 (TPDD2)
> drives, and a smaller supply of tested Utility floppy diskettes for the
> TPDD2 (created on new old stock SSDD diskettes).
>
> I decided today that, once this small stock is depleted, I will no longer
> be offering these again.
>
> So, now's your chance to stock up. Discounts up to are applied when you
> purchase more than one of each.
>
> *Floppy Drive Belt for Tandy Portable Disk Drive TPDD1 26-3808 or TPDD2
> 26-3814*:  https://www.ebay.com/itm/304695833943
>
> *Tandy Portable Disk Drive 2 Utility Floppy 26-3814, tested on two TPDD2
> drives*:  https://www.ebay.com/itm/305217850778
>
>
>
>
>

-- 
My retro tech blog and general ramblings
http://bytemyvdu.wordpress.com/

Re: [M100] Adding Gotek to T100 Disk Video Interface

[James Zeun]

Yes, the DVI is great for the display. I use my M100 for writing, so being
able to use it at home in tandem with a larger screen is great.

The floppy drives are great, but would be even better if they could be read
by another machine. I will certainly be looking at fitting a gotek, as my
DVI has only one floppy drive and a big gaping hole above, where one has
been removed.

Hopefully one day it will be possible to read to and from the IMG files.

Cheers
James


On Wed, 10 May 2023, 12:03 am MikeS,  wrote:

> >I’m no expert when it comes to using the DVI, I had a play about with it
> and really enjoyed the fact I could write with a proper display connected.
>
> *You mean like this?*
>
>
> That's an old game display (xbox 360?) clamped on to my M100 back in the
> day, with an extended cable going back to the DVI.
>
> >One question I must ask, how easy is it to read the contents of the disk
> images on a regular pc? If say I wrote a document and wanted to access it
> on my laptop, is that possible?
>
> *I always meant to look into that but never got around to it; apart from
> the novelty I really only used the DVI for the display and just
> loaded/saved the usual RS232 way. But there were quite a few
> parameter-driven format conversion programs around in the old days to deal
> with the hundreds if not thousands of different 'standards'  used by the
> various manufacturers, so I'd be surprised if it couldn't be done; maybe
> someone on here has in fact already done it.*
>
>
> *Enjoy!*
> *m*
>
>
>
> - Original Message -
>
> *From:* james.z...@gmail.com
> *To:* m...@bitchin100.com
> *Sent:* Tuesday, May 09, 2023 3:17 PM
> *Subject:* Re: [M100] Adding Gotek to T100 Disk Video Interface
>
> Hey
>
> Just been reading this. My DVI is currently in storage, but I’ve been
> meaning to bring it out and swap the US PSU inside with a 240v unit I
> bought a while back.
>
> I’m no expert when it comes to using the DVI, I had a play about with it
> and really enjoyed the fact I could write with a proper display connected.
>
> One question I must ask, how easy is it to read the contents of the disk
> images on a regular pc? If say I wrote a document and wanted to access it
> on my laptop, is that possible?
>
>
> Many thanks! And great job getting your gotek to work, this has inspired
> me to do the same 
>
>
>
> Sent from my iPad
>
> On 8 May 2023, at 4:21 pm, Gary Wilkinson  wrote:
>
>  No, I think it was my fault. I missed out the “ [m100dvi]” you listed
> at the start of the FF.CFG file on your email Josh.
> I’m currently making a couple of blank images now to hold saved data &
> basic program. Thanks again for your help!
>
> Sent from my iPhone
>
> On 8 May 2023, at 15:53, Josh Malone  wrote:
>
> 
> I suspect the issue may be cskew=1 which is missing from my CFG. Grimakis
> is also using interface=shugart (vs. mine using 'ibmpc') so that will
> require the different drive number jumpering (effectively swapping 1 and 0
> -- LFILES 0 might have worked)
>
> Yeah, everyone should use Grimakis's files and ignore what I posted :)
>
> -Josh
>
> On Mon, May 8, 2023 at 10:45 AM Gary Wilkinson 
> wrote:
>
>> Success
>>
>> I copied the CFG files from Grimakis GitHub and they worked!! I’ll now
>> puzzle back and see what I had missed in my original CFG files, but for now
>> I’m really delighted to have it working. Thanks guys for all the help!!
>>
>> Sent from my iPhone
>>
>> On 8 May 2023, at 15:37, Gary Wilkinson  wrote:
>>
>>  I checked my CFG files and they match and I made sure to keep the file
>> name the same on the img file you provided, but I’m still getting an error.
>>
>> When I just have the Gotek drive installed I get the error “In Drive0 is
>> NOT a SYSTEM DISKETTE”
>>
>> If I configure the Gotek as drive 1 and boot from the floppy, I’m ok
>> until I try and do a directory of drive 1 (LFILES 1) and then I get the
>> error “?AT Error”
>>
>> Puzzling 
>>
>> Sent from my iPhone
>>
>> On 8 May 2023, at 14:51, Josh Malone  wrote:
>>
>> 
>> On Mon, May 8, 2023 at 7:42 AM Gary Wilkinson 
>> wrote:
>>
>>> Hi Josh! It was your YouTube video that inspired me to try this! I asked
>>> a question in the comments, but I think you use a streaming service and so
>>> must have missed it. I’ve been updating my comments as I go along so others
>>> have an idea how to set this up. Thanks for the initial  inspiration and
>>> for responding in here :)
>>>
>>
>> Ah, yes - The "Amigos" folks re-post (with my permission) many of my live
>> Twitch streams to YT and, of course, I don't get notified of comments
>> there. I should probably come up with a way to fix that.
>>
>> -Josh
>>
>>

Re: [M100] Adding Gotek to T100 Disk Video Interface

[james . zeun]

HeyJust been reading this. My DVI is currently in storage, but I’ve been meaning to bring it out and swap the US PSU inside with a 240v unit I bought a while back.I’m no expert when it comes to using the DVI, I had a play about with it and really enjoyed the fact I could write with a proper display connected.One question I must ask, how easy is it to read the contents of the disk images on a regular pc? If say I wrote a document and wanted to access it on my laptop, is that possible?Many thanks! And great job getting your gotek to work, this has inspired me to do the same Sent from my iPadOn 8 May 2023, at 4:21 pm, Gary Wilkinson  wrote:




No, I think it was my fault. I missed out the “ [m100dvi]” you listed at the start of the FF.CFG file on your email Josh. 
I’m currently making a couple of blank images now to hold saved data & basic program. Thanks again for your help!

Sent from my iPhone

On 8 May 2023, at 15:53, Josh Malone  wrote:





I suspect the issue may be cskew=1 which is missing from my CFG. Grimakis is also using interface=shugart (vs. mine using 'ibmpc') so that will require the different drive number jumpering (effectively swapping 1 and 0 -- LFILES 0 might have
 worked)


Yeah, everyone should use Grimakis's files and ignore what I posted :)


-Josh



On Mon, May 8, 2023 at 10:45 AM Gary Wilkinson  wrote:


Success


I copied the CFG files from Grimakis GitHub and they worked!! I’ll now puzzle back and see what I had missed in my original CFG files, but for now I’m really delighted to have it working. Thanks guys for all the help!!

Sent from my iPhone

On 8 May 2023, at 15:37, Gary Wilkinson  wrote:




 I checked my CFG files and they match and I made sure to keep the file name the same on the img file you provided, but I’m still getting an error.


When I just have the Gotek drive installed I get the error “In Drive0 is NOT a SYSTEM DISKETTE”


If I configure the Gotek as drive 1 and boot from the floppy, I’m ok until I try and do a directory of drive 1 (LFILES 1) and then I get the error “?AT Error”


Puzzling 

Sent from my iPhone

On 8 May 2023, at 14:51, Josh Malone  wrote:






On Mon, May 8, 2023 at 7:42 AM Gary Wilkinson  wrote:



Hi Josh! It was your YouTube video that inspired me to try this! I asked a question in the comments, but I think you use a streaming service and so must have missed it. I’ve been updating my comments as I go along so others have an idea how
 to set this up. Thanks for the initial  inspiration and for responding in here :)




Ah, yes - The "Amigos" folks re-post (with my permission) many of my live Twitch streams to YT and, of course, I don't get notified of comments there. I should probably come up with a way to fix that.


-Josh 

Re: [M100] test

[James Zeun]

I can confirm with 100% confidence that I did not receive your message
asking if I had received your message. I hope this answers the question I
didn't see you ask 

On Fri, 23 Dec 2022, 9:26 am Daniel L,  wrote:

> Is my message making it to the list?
>
>
> Daniel
>
>

Re: [M100] New (again) Model 100 owner

[James Zeun]

I don't know if anyone has mentioned this already, but mcomm is also a 
very handy method of transferring files off your M100.


mcomm is a bit of software that runs on Android phones and emulates a 
Tandy Disk drive. How I used it was I bought a rs232 to USB adapter, an 
OTG cable and a null modem cable. Link them together, one end going to 
the phone, the other going to the M100. Before I had an NADSbox, this 
was the most simple, cheap way of getting files on and off my M100. Oh 
before I forget, I'm also running a REX in my M100, which is a serious 
must have for anyone wishing to use an M100 computer for any length of time.




On 29/01/2022 4:31 pm, Joshua O'Keefe wrote:
On Jan 28, 2022, at 11:43 PM, Carlos M. Nunez, M.D. 
 wrote:
1. Are there any recommended sources for a null modem cable? I would 
prefer the PC end to terminate in a USB plug, so I believe it will 
require a serial to usb converter somewhere.


You may receive a torrent of responses, as for one reason or another 
this is an area where quite a few people hold very strong opinions. 
 Personally, I grabbed the first USB/serial null cable I could find 
that had an FTDI chip:


https://smile.amazon.com/gp/product/B008634VJY/ 



It's unfortunately 9-pin so I had to pick up a 9-to-25 to make use of 
it, and of course a gender adapter to use with the Tandy.


Since I'm pretty much forever going to only have DTE on the serial end 
of this cable, I went with something null wired.  I use it frequently 
with several different vintage systems on the other end -- in fact I 
originally bought this to bootstrap an Amiga -- and it works 
flawlessly.  I plug it in and it magically shows up as /dev/ttyUSB0 
and I can do whatever I want with it.


Also, any good online information and/or tutorials that walk through 
the null modem cable file transfer stuff?


TPDD emulation is the main way by which folks get files in and out of 
the machine.  Personally, I just keep a TPDD emulator (LaddieAlpha, as 
it offers directory support) running in a Docker container and plug in 
whenever I need to get files in and out, but I have the advantage of 
having TS-DOS in ROM on the Tandy -- REX makes it possible!


Before I got set up with a REX, I bootstrapped TEENY.CO to the system 
using dlplus and fumbled my way around getting that working.  After 
finding TEENY kind of inconvenient, I bit the bullet and brought 
TS-DOS over to sit in RAM.  It's a satisfactory solution but doesn't 
leave a ton of working room on the computer.


The easiest solution by far is a REX: plug in the board, go through 
the brief, documented steps to get the REX up, plug into your favorite 
TPDD emulator, fire up TS-DOS from the REX, and files come and go as 
you please.


I've got a Backpack I want to try for when I start traveling again, 
but while I'm mostly in the house I prefer to write directly to the 
ZFS pool over a serial cable.


As far as I've seen, nobody's written a step-by-step guide to getting 
up and running.  There are a lot of choices depending on what you're 
doing, where you're going, what hardware you have and plan to carry 
with you, and how Windows-y or Android-y a person you are.  The basics 
of how all this works are pretty straightforward once you get your 
head around the fundamentals but there are tool choices to make for 
which a one-size-fits-most guide appears somewhat hard to write 
beyond: "Get REX, set up TPDD emulation to your taste."

Re: [M100] Ron Wiesen

[james . zeun]

I didn’t know the man, but sad to hear all the same.

Hearing this makes it feel ever more important to reach out and wish everyone 
good health and a merry Christmas.

James


Sent from my iPad

> On 21 Dec 2021, at 1:20 pm, Brian Brindle  wrote:
> 
> 
> 
> Hi everyone, 
> 
> I learned today from an amateur radio contact that WD8PNL, Ronald R. Wiesen 
> passed away July 23rd, 2021. He was 71. 
> 
> Ron was noticeably absent from the list recently, especially with the current 
> topics being right up his alley. He brought us many cool programs related to 
> Amateur Radio as well as utilities for the M100. He was a US Marine with 
> combat experience and had dozens of entertaining, crazy stories to go along 
> with all of that. He ran Little Orphan Annie crypto challenges, would spin 
> yarns about the simplest of things and was just pain fun. 
> 
> Ron was an awesome guy, he was already missed but knowing he is gone forever 
> makes me immeasurably sad.
> 
> 73 my friend,  
> WD8PNL, Keeper of the Primordial Bit (mother of all bits), -= Ron Wiesen =-   
> (SK)
> 
> As of yet, we have received no comment from Bubba. 
> 
> 
> Brian
> 
> 

Re: [M100] GoTek floppy and DVI unit?

[James Zeun]

Hmmm that might be something is be up for trying out.

Would it be possible to read the disk images on a regular pc?

On Sun, 5 Dec 2021, 7:48 pm Gregory McGill,  wrote:

> Yes no haven't tried it yet
>
> On Sun, Dec 5, 2021, 11:34 AM James Zeun  wrote:
>
>> Hey guys
>>
>> I'm sorry if this has been asked before. But I was just staring at my DVI
>> and the thought hit me, could I fit a gotek floppy emulator inside the
>> thing and would it work?
>>
>> Has anyone tried such a thing?
>>
>> Cheers
>> James
>>
>>
>> Sent from my iPad
>
>

[M100] GoTek floppy and DVI unit?

[James Zeun]

Hey guys

I'm sorry if this has been asked before. But I was just staring at my DVI and 
the thought hit me, could I fit a gotek floppy emulator inside the thing and 
would it work? 

Has anyone tried such a thing? 

Cheers
James


Sent from my iPad

Re: [M100] Must-have ROMs

[james . zeun]

Stephen what is the difference between the REX# and the REX I bought from you 
some years ago?

James


Sent from my iPad

> On 8 Jul 2021, at 3:48 pm, Stephen Adolph  wrote:
> 
> 
> Yes I am actively making REX# and REXCPM.  I can't keep them in stock  ;)  
> you can shift REX# between M100 and T102.
> 
> 
>> On Thu, Jul 8, 2021 at 10:44 AM  wrote:
>> Speaking of must-have ROMS, is Stephen still making REX#?  Is the REX# 
>> interchangeable between M100 and M102 or are they different devices?
>> 
>> Thanks!
>> 
>> Bill
>> 

[M100] M100 DVI cover panel

[James Zeun]

Does anyone know what the dimensions should be for this DVI cable cover
panel?

https://www.thingiverse.com/thing:4616079?fbclid=IwAR2HDDXRl06ow3DkbfWGutJGhVC6RFW9hzy9PIJUMKAi7IttJ8jZXLVyxWo

Re: [M100] New Boards

[James Zeun]

This sounds very interesting. A similar thing has been done with the
Commodore Amiga. With new, revised boards some providing additional
features. Such as giving AGA graphics to the A3000.


James

On Thu, 17 Dec 2020, 8:05 pm Josh Malone,  wrote:

> On Thu, Dec 17, 2020 at 2:44 PM Stephen Adolph 
> wrote:
> >
> > the purpose being more reliability?  or new features?
>
> One of the main purposes of a lot of these new boards is to replace
> hopelessly-damaged vintage ones.But, in addition to this, one might
> consider:
>  * Modernizing the PSU; Providing additional 5v current for peripherals
>  * Remapping the ROM sockets to JEDEC standard
>  * Compatibility with easily-sourced RAM chips (like the 102)
>  * Integrating modern peripherals (i.e., on-board TPDD or wifi modem)
>
> Also, it could use modern surface-mount components if we wanted. It
> would be kinda like having the reliability of a 102 but the keyboard
> of a 100 (in fact, it could have both socket types). There are a ton
> of possibilities once the base design is copied. Yes - this represents
> a TON of work... but it doesn't have to happen overnight.
>
> -Josh
>

Re: [M100] Back in the hospital yet again

[James Zeun]

All the best! Hoping for the best


On Tue, 10 Nov 2020, 2:38 am Kenneth Pettit,  wrote:

> Hey gang,
>
> Well I’m back in the hospital again with angina and shortness of breath.
> Hopefully it will be just. A couple of days for a stent or two and then
> home again.  Will let you know.
>
> Ken
>
> Sent from my iPhone

Re: [M100] WP-2

[James Zeun]

Hey

I have an Amstrad NC100, I believe they are very similar to the WP-1. With
the except that the NC100, uses a form of Protext as it's built in
word-processor.

My understanding is those flash cards if left in had a habit of eating the
batteries.

If you figure out a way around that, do share. I'd love to have a reliable
storage medium on that system. Admittedly I did retire it when I bought the
M100. The display alone is leagues better than the NC100.


-James


On Thu, 15 Oct 2020, 3:14 pm Josh Malone,  wrote:

> That sounds awesome, Brian! I'm excited to build one of these once the
> PCB is ready. Is the flash version able to be written by the WP-2? Or
> is this just for running z80 programs on the WP-2 which you flash
> externally?
>
> -Josh
>
> On Thu, Oct 15, 2020 at 12:45 AM Brian White  wrote:
> >
> > The last piece I as waiting for came in today and the ram card works
> both mechanically and functionally.
>

Re: [M100] Model 100 Option ROM Compartment Covers

[james . zeun]

Thank you for sharing this! I have been needing a cover for my DVI cable 

Sent from my iPad

> On 6 Oct 2020, at 12:35 am, Peter Noeth  wrote:
> 
> 
> With all this "Design Sharing" going around here  :-)  I decided to upload 
> the Option ROM Compartment Covers I designed for 3D Printing on Thingiverse. 
> There are three, a blank cover and two with cable slots for those of you with 
> DVIs.
> Blank Cover (replacement):  https://www.thingiverse.com/thing:4616011 
> Cover w/ System Bus Cable Slot:  https://www.thingiverse.com/thing:4616079 
> Cover w/ System Bus ZIF Socket:  https://www.thingiverse.com/thing:4616062 
> I use the third one for my development Model 100. The ZIF connector makes it 
> easier to attach / remove the cable to the solderless breadboard I have been 
> using lately (for an Atari Joystick Interface for the 100/102/200).
> 
> I have also made dust covers for all connectors on the 102, but I haven't 
> tested all of them on the Model 100 yet. I may upload these designs at a 
> later time.
> 
> Regards,
> 
> Peter
>  

Re: [M100] definition of null modem

[james . zeun]

Well maybe hold off then, because my plan is to document what I do. I don’t 
mind videos but there is a reason I maintain a tech blog for all the project I 
work on / build.



Sent from my iPad

> On 22 Sep 2020, at 7:11 pm, Jonathan Yuen  wrote:
> 
> Hi,
> 
> I'll have to take a look.  Generally avoid videos because I'm too lazy to 
> take notes but I realize that recording a video is easier than writing stuff 
> and making web pages.
> 
> Jonathan
> 
> jonathan.y...@mykopat.slu.se
> 
> Från: M100 [m100-boun...@lists.bitchin100.com] för james.z...@gmail.com 
> [james.z...@gmail.com]
> Skickat: den 22 september 2020 10:54
> Till: m...@bitchin100.com
> Ämne: Re: [M100] definition of null modem
> 
> Buddy
> 
> Have you checked out youtube? I’m literally about to undertake a project that 
> sounds like what your after. I’m fitting a rpi zero into an old modem housing 
> and having it share the WiFi out over ppp serial. There are two very good 
> videos on this process which can be found on YouTube. One uses an Commodore 
> Amiga and the other is using a Win95 PC as the system they are trying to get 
> online. Both see the Rpi as a regular modem.
> 
> I hoping to get it working so I can recover email on my Amiga 500+
> 
> Sent from my iPad
> 
>> On 22 Sep 2020, at 9:41 am, Jonathan Yuen  wrote:
>> 
>> Hi,
>> 
>> I have an FTDI converter, bought it to connect the M100 to modern stuff 
>> without real RS232 ports.  But I was trying to get ppp to work on the 
>> PI-Psion connection and I was trying everything possible (and it still 
>> doesn't work) under linux.  I can get it to work on Windows but that sort of 
>> defeats the whole purpose of having something small bridge between the Psion 
>> and today's internet.  I really only wanted to get mail to work so I didn't 
>> have to type on the phone or tablet screen but maybe a small bluetooth 
>> keyboard is the answer. If I keep the mail on the pi I guess I can use any 
>> terminal to do mail, like the M100 or the Psion but the M100 keyboard is 
>> better.
>> 
>> How to configure ppp to work is still a mystery but that is really not the 
>> subject of this list. Tried slirp and even found a number of people that 
>> claimed it would work but it doesn't work for me and it doesn't want to 
>> compile on my linux machine, either.
>> 
>> Jonathan
>> 
>> jonathan.y...@mykopat.slu.se
>> 
>> Från: M100 [m100-boun...@lists.bitchin100.com] för Tom Wilson 
>> [wilso...@gmail.com]
>> Skickat: den 21 september 2020 22:06
>> Till: M100 Mailing List
>> Ämne: Re: [M100] definition of null modem
>> 
>> Some tips on that
>> 
>> Are you using Linux on the Pi? If so,  it would be easier to just use a USB 
>> serial port. The Prolific and FTDI ports both work with Raspbian; I've used 
>> both.
>> 
>> Otherwise, maybe look at a DTE wired level converter with CTS/RTS like 
>> this one:
>> 
>> https://www.amazon.com/NulSom-Inc-Ultra-Compact-Converter/dp/B00OPU2QJ4/ref=sr_1_4?dchild=1=ttl+rs-232+level+converter=1600718673=8-4
>> 
>> Although I'm not sure where you'll get CTS and RTS on the Pi. I don't know 
>> that it's mapped to any of the GPIO pins. This might help a little bit:
>> https://www.raspberrypi.org/forums/viewtopic.php?t=241623
>> 
>> 
>> 
>> Tom Wilson
>> wilso...@gmail.com
>> (619)940-6311
>> K6ABZ
>> 
>> 
>> On Mon, Sep 21, 2020 at 12:10 PM Jonathan Yuen 
>> mailto:jonathan.y...@slu.se>> wrote:
>> Hello,
>> 
>> I actually am trying to connect a Psion 5MX with it's 'serial cable' to a 
>> raspberry pi, the serial lines on the GPIO thing.  The pi is TTL, so I have 
>> an adapter to change it to RS-232.  The adapter is DCE, but the Psion cable 
>> actually terminates as DCE, since it was made to plug into the serial port 
>> on your PC for synchronizing etc.  The Psion has a perfectly good comm 
>> program, so I'm using it as terminal (there is even a VT100 program) but I 
>> need the 'null modem' or crossover connector to connect it to the 
>> level-shifter.  Since they were both female, I actually did the test with 3 
>> pieces of maybe 14 or 16 gauge insulated wire, maybe 3 cm long, with their 
>> ends stripped and pushed into the right holes. But I thought I should have 
>> something a bit more 'robust' and maybe do the other lines as well.
>> 
>> I think Psion actually made a modem that connected to this cable, but that 
>> must have been DTE...
>> 
>> I guess I always thought of the 'modem' in null-modem as 'modem=DCE' since 
>> I've always connected DTE things together. But I appreciate the feedback 
>> from the group.
>> 
>> Jonathan
>> 
>> jonathan.y...@mykopat.slu.se
>> 
>> Från: M100 
>> [m100-boun...@lists.bitchin100.com]
>>  för Tom Wilson [wilso...@gmail.com]
>> Skickat: den 21 september 

Re: [M100] definition of null modem

[james . zeun]

Buddy

Have you checked out youtube? I’m literally about to undertake a project that 
sounds like what your after. I’m fitting a rpi zero into an old modem housing 
and having it share the WiFi out over ppp serial. There are two very good 
videos on this process which can be found on YouTube. One uses an Commodore 
Amiga and the other is using a Win95 PC as the system they are trying to get 
online. Both see the Rpi as a regular modem.

I hoping to get it working so I can recover email on my Amiga 500+

Sent from my iPad

> On 22 Sep 2020, at 9:41 am, Jonathan Yuen  wrote:
> 
> Hi,
> 
> I have an FTDI converter, bought it to connect the M100 to modern stuff 
> without real RS232 ports.  But I was trying to get ppp to work on the 
> PI-Psion connection and I was trying everything possible (and it still 
> doesn't work) under linux.  I can get it to work on Windows but that sort of 
> defeats the whole purpose of having something small bridge between the Psion 
> and today's internet.  I really only wanted to get mail to work so I didn't 
> have to type on the phone or tablet screen but maybe a small bluetooth 
> keyboard is the answer. If I keep the mail on the pi I guess I can use any 
> terminal to do mail, like the M100 or the Psion but the M100 keyboard is 
> better.
> 
> How to configure ppp to work is still a mystery but that is really not the 
> subject of this list. Tried slirp and even found a number of people that 
> claimed it would work but it doesn't work for me and it doesn't want to 
> compile on my linux machine, either.
> 
> Jonathan
> 
> jonathan.y...@mykopat.slu.se
> 
> Från: M100 [m100-boun...@lists.bitchin100.com] för Tom Wilson 
> [wilso...@gmail.com]
> Skickat: den 21 september 2020 22:06
> Till: M100 Mailing List
> Ämne: Re: [M100] definition of null modem
> 
> Some tips on that
> 
> Are you using Linux on the Pi? If so,  it would be easier to just use a USB 
> serial port. The Prolific and FTDI ports both work with Raspbian; I've used 
> both.
> 
> Otherwise, maybe look at a DTE wired level converter with CTS/RTS like 
> this one:
> 
> https://www.amazon.com/NulSom-Inc-Ultra-Compact-Converter/dp/B00OPU2QJ4/ref=sr_1_4?dchild=1=ttl+rs-232+level+converter=1600718673=8-4
> 
> Although I'm not sure where you'll get CTS and RTS on the Pi. I don't know 
> that it's mapped to any of the GPIO pins. This might help a little bit:
> https://www.raspberrypi.org/forums/viewtopic.php?t=241623
> 
> 
> 
> Tom Wilson
> wilso...@gmail.com
> (619)940-6311
> K6ABZ
> 
> 
> On Mon, Sep 21, 2020 at 12:10 PM Jonathan Yuen 
> mailto:jonathan.y...@slu.se>> wrote:
> Hello,
> 
> I actually am trying to connect a Psion 5MX with it's 'serial cable' to a 
> raspberry pi, the serial lines on the GPIO thing.  The pi is TTL, so I have 
> an adapter to change it to RS-232.  The adapter is DCE, but the Psion cable 
> actually terminates as DCE, since it was made to plug into the serial port on 
> your PC for synchronizing etc.  The Psion has a perfectly good comm program, 
> so I'm using it as terminal (there is even a VT100 program) but I need the 
> 'null modem' or crossover connector to connect it to the level-shifter.  
> Since they were both female, I actually did the test with 3 pieces of maybe 
> 14 or 16 gauge insulated wire, maybe 3 cm long, with their ends stripped and 
> pushed into the right holes. But I thought I should have something a bit more 
> 'robust' and maybe do the other lines as well.
> 
> I think Psion actually made a modem that connected to this cable, but that 
> must have been DTE...
> 
> I guess I always thought of the 'modem' in null-modem as 'modem=DCE' since 
> I've always connected DTE things together. But I appreciate the feedback from 
> the group.
> 
> Jonathan
> 
> jonathan.y...@mykopat.slu.se
> 
> Från: M100 
> [m100-boun...@lists.bitchin100.com] 
> för Tom Wilson [wilso...@gmail.com]
> Skickat: den 21 september 2020 20:18
> Till: M100 Mailing List
> Ämne: Re: [M100] definition of null modem
> 
> "Null" means "none" or "zero." So "null modem" means "no modem."
> This term is an adjective and should be coupled with "cable", "adapter", or 
> some other noun to be of any use.
> 
> I don't see a need to re-define the term, since "null modem cable" is well 
> established, and we all know exactly what the term means.
> 
> Strangely, there are times you actually need a null modem cable to connect a 
> computer to a modem. Most CP/M computers used dumb terminals, as did any 
> mainframe and minicomputer (also called a mini mainframe.) Since those 
> computers were designed to have DTE devices plugged directly in to their 
> terminal ports, you might need a null modem cable to connect a modem to the 
> mainframe... Of course, in that case, we'd just call those "modem 

Re: [M100] definition of null modem

[james . zeun]

A little younger but still an amazing early 80s device, the Psion Organiser II 
is an interesting device and a lot of fun to play around with.

I have a standard series three, I sent it off and had it refurbished. The 
hinges are the most common thing to go and the video ribbon cable between the 
main board and the screen. In terms of robustness, it’s not a touch on the 
M100. The Organiser II on the other hand, I know someone who still sells those 
to people working outdoors. Main selling point, you can apparently run over it 
with your Land Rover and it still keeps ticking...I’m happy to take my friend 
at his word on this. Running over my computers isn’t something I’ve wanted to 
do, well not since I last used Windows 95 




Sent from my iPad

> On 21 Sep 2020, at 8:50 pm, Chris Fezzler  wrote:
> 
> 
> Love the Psion 3c I had but the case literally disintegrated.  Had some type 
> of soft plastic that just corroded and fell apart. 
> 
> On Monday, September 21, 2020, 03:24:59 PM EDT, james.z...@gmail.com 
>  wrote:
> 
> 
> The 5mx is a nice machine, I reviewed and tested several Psion devices. The 
> company was often said to be the UK version of Apple for their innovative 
> devices, programming language. I still have a soft spot for the series 3.
> 
> 
> 
> Sent from my iPad
> 
> > On 21 Sep 2020, at 8:10 pm, Jonathan Yuen  wrote:
> > 
> > Hello,
> > 
> > I actually am trying to connect a Psion 5MX with it's 'serial cable' to a 
> > raspberry pi, the serial lines on the GPIO thing.  The pi is TTL, so I have 
> > an adapter to change it to RS-232.  The adapter is DCE, but the Psion cable 
> > actually terminates as DCE, since it was made to plug into the serial port 
> > on your PC for synchronizing etc.  The Psion has a perfectly good comm 
> > program, so I'm using it as terminal (there is even a VT100 program) but I 
> > need the 'null modem' or crossover connector to connect it to the 
> > level-shifter.  Since they were both female, I actually did the test with 3 
> > pieces of maybe 14 or 16 gauge insulated wire, maybe 3 cm long, with their 
> > ends stripped and pushed into the right holes. But I thought I should have 
> > something a bit more 'robust' and maybe do the other lines as well.
> > 
> > I think Psion actually made a modem that connected to this cable, but that 
> > must have been DTE...
> > 
> > I guess I always thought of the 'modem' in null-modem as 'modem=DCE' since 
> > I've always connected DTE things together. But I appreciate the feedback 
> > from the group.
> > 
> > Jonathan
> > 
> > jonathan.y...@mykopat.slu.se
> > 
> > Från: M100 [m100-boun...@lists.bitchin100.com] för Tom Wilson 
> > [wilso...@gmail.com]
> > Skickat: den 21 september 2020 20:18
> > Till: M100 Mailing List
> > Ämne: Re: [M100] definition of null modem
> > 
> > "Null" means "none" or "zero." So "null modem" means "no modem."
> > This term is an adjective and should be coupled with "cable", "adapter", or 
> > some other noun to be of any use.
> > 
> > I don't see a need to re-define the term, since "null modem cable" is well 
> > established, and we all know exactly what the term means.
> > 
> > Strangely, there are times you actually need a null modem cable to connect 
> > a computer to a modem. Most CP/M computers used dumb terminals, as did any 
> > mainframe and minicomputer (also called a mini mainframe.) Since those 
> > computers were designed to have DTE devices plugged directly in to their 
> > terminal ports, you might need a null modem cable to connect a modem to the 
> > mainframe... Of course, in that case, we'd just call those "modem cables" 
> > (or, more commonly, the 8-pin modular to DB25 adapter would be labeled 
> > "modem".) So in that instance, we literally used a null-modem cable to 
> > connect to a modem
> > 
> > Sometimes I love the English language.
> > 
> > Tom Wilson
> > wilso...@gmail.com
> > (619)940-6311
> > K6ABZ
> > 
> > 
> > On Mon, Sep 21, 2020 at 9:16 AM Lee Kelley 
> > mailto:l...@3footed.com>> wrote:
> > I've always thought "null modem" was a misnomer. It probably should have 
> > been called a "non modem cable" or simply a cross over cable as mentioned 
> > above.
> > 
> > On Mon, Sep 21, 2020, 11:06 RETRO Innovations 
> > mailto:go4re...@go4retro.com>> wrote:
> >> On 9/21/2020 10:59 AM, Jonathan Yuen wrote:
> >> 
> >> That said, I could only think that the other wiring should be same as a 
> >> null modem, but I thought that I should air my thoughts to see what other 
> >> people think.
> > 
> > I'm curious about the use case, but you are correct, the wiring would be
> > the same.  Maybe, (though no one will do this, as the other terms have
> > been in use for too long), it's best to call such a cable a "crossover"
> > cable, like is available for Ethernet ports.
> > 
> > Jim
> > 
> > 
> > ---
> > När du skickar e-post till SLU så innebär detta att SLU behandlar dina 
> > personuppgifter. 

Re: [M100] definition of null modem

[james . zeun]

The 5mx is a nice machine, I reviewed and tested several Psion devices. The 
company was often said to be the UK version of Apple for their innovative 
devices, programming language. I still have a soft spot for the series 3.



Sent from my iPad

> On 21 Sep 2020, at 8:10 pm, Jonathan Yuen  wrote:
> 
> Hello,
> 
> I actually am trying to connect a Psion 5MX with it's 'serial cable' to a 
> raspberry pi, the serial lines on the GPIO thing.  The pi is TTL, so I have 
> an adapter to change it to RS-232.  The adapter is DCE, but the Psion cable 
> actually terminates as DCE, since it was made to plug into the serial port on 
> your PC for synchronizing etc.  The Psion has a perfectly good comm program, 
> so I'm using it as terminal (there is even a VT100 program) but I need the 
> 'null modem' or crossover connector to connect it to the level-shifter.  
> Since they were both female, I actually did the test with 3 pieces of maybe 
> 14 or 16 gauge insulated wire, maybe 3 cm long, with their ends stripped and 
> pushed into the right holes. But I thought I should have something a bit more 
> 'robust' and maybe do the other lines as well.
> 
> I think Psion actually made a modem that connected to this cable, but that 
> must have been DTE...
> 
> I guess I always thought of the 'modem' in null-modem as 'modem=DCE' since 
> I've always connected DTE things together. But I appreciate the feedback from 
> the group.
> 
> Jonathan
> 
> jonathan.y...@mykopat.slu.se
> 
> Från: M100 [m100-boun...@lists.bitchin100.com] för Tom Wilson 
> [wilso...@gmail.com]
> Skickat: den 21 september 2020 20:18
> Till: M100 Mailing List
> Ämne: Re: [M100] definition of null modem
> 
> "Null" means "none" or "zero." So "null modem" means "no modem."
> This term is an adjective and should be coupled with "cable", "adapter", or 
> some other noun to be of any use.
> 
> I don't see a need to re-define the term, since "null modem cable" is well 
> established, and we all know exactly what the term means.
> 
> Strangely, there are times you actually need a null modem cable to connect a 
> computer to a modem. Most CP/M computers used dumb terminals, as did any 
> mainframe and minicomputer (also called a mini mainframe.) Since those 
> computers were designed to have DTE devices plugged directly in to their 
> terminal ports, you might need a null modem cable to connect a modem to the 
> mainframe... Of course, in that case, we'd just call those "modem cables" 
> (or, more commonly, the 8-pin modular to DB25 adapter would be labeled 
> "modem".) So in that instance, we literally used a null-modem cable to 
> connect to a modem
> 
> Sometimes I love the English language.
> 
> Tom Wilson
> wilso...@gmail.com
> (619)940-6311
> K6ABZ
> 
> 
> On Mon, Sep 21, 2020 at 9:16 AM Lee Kelley 
> mailto:l...@3footed.com>> wrote:
> I've always thought "null modem" was a misnomer. It probably should have been 
> called a "non modem cable" or simply a cross over cable as mentioned above.
> 
> On Mon, Sep 21, 2020, 11:06 RETRO Innovations 
> mailto:go4re...@go4retro.com>> wrote:
>> On 9/21/2020 10:59 AM, Jonathan Yuen wrote:
>> 
>> That said, I could only think that the other wiring should be same as a null 
>> modem, but I thought that I should air my thoughts to see what other people 
>> think.
> 
> I'm curious about the use case, but you are correct, the wiring would be
> the same.  Maybe, (though no one will do this, as the other terms have
> been in use for too long), it's best to call such a cable a "crossover"
> cable, like is available for Ethernet ports.
> 
> Jim
> 
> 
> ---
> När du skickar e-post till SLU så innebär detta att SLU behandlar dina 
> personuppgifter. För att läsa mer om hur detta går till, klicka här 
> 
> E-mailing SLU will result in SLU processing your personal data. For more 
> information on how this is done, click here 
> 

Re: [M100] The rules

[james . zeun]

I think this is a discussion best had off list

Regardless of whether I agree with the rules or not. Intentionally antagonising 
John by posting a response that blatantly disregards the list rules on cussing, 
which he has politely ask all to respect. Is also probably not the best way to 
address your grievances. 

We are all adults, I’m sure John will listen to you. For example has anyone 
thought to look how many past posts have featured words consider inappropriate? 
If it amounts to a substantial number, perhaps a revaluation could be proposed 
IDK. 

Ultimately it’s the admins call.

James




Sent from my iPad

> On 2 Aug 2020, at 10:39 pm, Brian White  wrote:
> 
> 
> Of course I did it again, because I did nothing in the first place, or any 
> subsequent time.
> 
> You are in the wrong. Adjust what you consider harmful into something more in 
> tune with reality, and yes apologize for getting it a little wrong.
> 
> You can in fact do that. whatever weird internal list of words you have been 
> operating under, they didn't come from god, and they can be wrong and they 
> can be changed. Your attempt to say you're just enforcing a rule that 
> predates you is invalid and frankly silly.
> 
> Yes, you do owe me and averyone else an apology for chastizing someone when 
> they didn't do anything wrong, and for which they could not have possibly 
> known not to do, because there is no published list of illegal words. Instead 
> you may simply respond at any unpredictable time over anything. You cannot 
> say "evryone knows whats bad" because it has been demonstrated quite clearly 
> that everyone does not know, or have the same idea of what is obviously 
> profane and what is not.
> 
> You are simply in the wrong on this tiny detail, and you should apologize for 
> even saying anything in the first place, and adjust your list of harmful 
> language so that in the future you don't overstep like this again.
> 
> I was about to upload a video of using the BCR port to power an arduino tpdd. 
> The video is kind of crap. I can't freaking even say "please excuse the 
> craptastic video, but here's this thing working..."
> 
> Saying "crap" was itself already THE very way to avoid saying "shit". I 
> cannot believe that you don't know this.
> 
> Shall we write cr*p instead? But then everyone knows what it means, so what's 
> the difference? It's just another spelling for the same word. essentially, or 
> sayingvit in another language. Shall we write "excrement" or "feces" how are 
> those any better? Or, maybe you don't like any of those either? It's illegal 
> to reference bodily waste in any form, so when say, something has a "crappy 
> interface" ...
> 
> You're simply wrong. Adjust so as no no longer be wrong please, for the sake 
> of the shared facility you are administering. 
> 
> Shall I dig up some kind of movie rating reference to show that "crap" is 
> allowed in even G rated materials designed specifically for children? A list 
> member should never have to become so lawyerly.
> 
> When you say, "everyone knows", in this case that applies to you. Everyone 
> does know. You should know what everyone else knows.
> 
> The ridiculousness of this complaint over this word is the only reason anyone 
> is talking about a published explicit list of banned words, because if you 
> are going to complain about that, then you might complain about anything, and 
> that makes the list into an uneasy place to try to communicate.
> 
> Here's how you can tell that you are in the wrong and not that guy who said 
> "crap":
> 
> Your action chased him right off the list.
> His action did not chase anyone else off the list.
> 
> That is a simple math to evaluate right there. Between you and that guy, you 
> were the one who harmed the list. I know you thought you were protecting it, 
> but go back and look at that very simple math again.
> 
> -- 
> bkw
> 
>> On Thu, Jul 23, 2020, 6:16 PM John R. Hogerhuis  wrote:
>> 
>> 
>> On Thu, Jul 23, 2020 at 2:12 PM Brian K. White  wrote:
>>  
>> Whoah you just did it again.
>> 
>> Responded off list.
>> 
>> -- John. 

Re: [M100] M100 Digest, Vol 115, Issue 24

[james . zeun]

I think the group could be called the Bright Pink Flamingo, point being when we 
join, we agree to abide by the group rules. Anyone who doesn’t feel they can 
manage that, maybe don’t join, if speaking politely is going to be difficult.

-James 








Sent from my iPad

> On 23 Jul 2020, at 11:22 pm, Jason Paul  wrote:
> 
> 
> I fully support the rules as stated by John there's nothing that people not 
> wanting to hear a word stops me from expressing. There's no rights involved 
> in something that's volunteer if you don't like it head out.
> 
>> On Thu, Jul 23, 2020, 6:19 PM John R. Hogerhuis  wrote:
>> 
>> 
>>> On Thu, Jul 23, 2020 at 11:59 AM Peter Vollan  wrote:
>>> Enough of this
>> 
>> What is everyone not getting about this?
>> 
>> I don't want the word on the list. So don't post it into the discussion.
>> 
>> The context is already set, please... 

Re: [M100] M100 Digest, Vol 115, Issue 24

[James Zeun]

John just wanted to voice my thanks for enforcing the rules. 

My view is a simple one. If the sign on the door tells you to take your shoes 
off, you don't enter and then complain about having to take them off. 

Cheers 
James



Sent from my iPad

> On 23 Jul 2020, at 6:41 pm, Bert Put  wrote:
> 
> Hi John,
> 
> Let me say thank you for enforcing the rules, since I know how much of
> as time sink it is to maintain the server and the the newsgroup.  I
> don't particularly care about swearing but I absolutely appreciate
> keeping this a "no-offensive-word" zone.
> 
> For everyone else, remember we are all guests here.  John's
> server/house, John's rules.  Simple as that.
> 
> Cheers,Bert
> 
> 
>> On 7/23/20 11:52 AM, John R. Hogerhuis wrote:
>> 
>> 
>> On Thu, Jul 23, 2020, 8:13 AM Mike Stein > > wrote:
>> 
>>__
>>*- Original Message -
>>From: John R. Hogerhuis
>>To: m...@bitchin100.com 
>>Sent: Thursday, July 23, 2020 7:18 AM
>>Subject: Re: [M100] M100 Digest, Vol 115, Issue 24
>> 
>> 
>>> Brian, Doug, Erik... what the heck is happening here? *
>>*...*
>>** 
>>*Sign of the times I think; instead of a simple "sorry, np" it's "I
>>don't care whether anyone else finds that word offensive, _I_ don't
>>and I resent being told I can't say it (and I'm not gonna play with
>>you guys any more, so there! ;-) )" *
>>** 
>> 
>> 
>> That was my feeling. 
>> 
>>*Kinda like the response from some folks to the request to wear
>>Covid masks...*
>>** 
>> 
>> 
>> Oh Mike good reminder, politics let's not do that either. Anyone wants
>> to talk about masks and mask adjacent issues or persons my Facebook page
>> is regularly up in flames. 
>> 
>> -- John. 

Re: [M100] M100 Digest, Vol 115, Issue 22

[james . zeun]

I’ve never used desklink? Is the apk file available someplace?

I was only suggesting the tried and tested methods i used with my M100, as 
mComm is a darn handy program and a doddle to use :-)


Sent from my iPad

> On 21 Jul 2020, at 1:23 am, Hiraghm  wrote:
> 
> Orr... an RS232 to bluetooth adapter and a PC with bluetooth running 
> LaddieAlpha...
> Orr... an RS232 bluetooth adapter and a Pinephone running Desklink?
> 
> Which brings me to my big question...
> 
> Is the source to the Linux Desklink software available? I'd like to recompile 
> it targeting Aarch64 so I can run it on my phone. For that matter, I'd like 
> to take a crack at porting Virtual T to Aarch64.
> 
> I suppose you could configure something with an RS232 to wifi adapter and 
> transfer files over your local network... maybe set up a bbs or something on 
> the PC.
> 
> 
>> On 7/20/2020 3:46 PM, m100-requ...@lists.bitchin100.com wrote:
>> --
>> Message: 4
>> Date: Mon, 20 Jul 2020 15:13:16 +0100
>> From: James Zeun 
>> To: M100 Mailing List 
>> Subject: Re: [M100] Still active?
>> Message-ID:
>>
>> Content-Type: text/plain; charset="utf-8"
>> 
>> A null modem cable and a pc with a serial terminal.
>> 
>> Or
>> 
>> Mcomm + an android phone + null modem cable and an RS-232 to USB adapter.
>> 
>> 
>> 
>>> On Mon, 20 Jul 2020, 2:46 pm John Deitz,  wrote:
>>> 
>>> Excellent point about forcing discipline. I would like to try. How do i
>>> get the text out of the machine to post?
>>> 
>>> John C Deitz
>>> 
>>>> On Jul 20, 2020, at 5:36 AM, James  wrote:
>>>> 
>>>> ?On Sun, 19 Aug 2018 22:03:56 -0700
>>>> "John R. Hogerhuis"  wrote:
>>>> 
>>>>> Mostly communication about new projects and questions / answers for
>>>>> support issues.
>>>>> 
>>>>> -- John.
>>>>> 
>>>>> 
>>>>>> On Sun, Aug 19, 2018, 6:41 PM Adam Murray 
>>>>>> wrote:
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> Hello.  Just wondering what kind of activity this group sees these
>>>>>> days.
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> 
>>>> While I can't claim fame for designing some of the cracking hardware /
>>>> software some of the guys do.
>>>> 
>>>> I mostly use my M100 for writing articles for my blog and also writing
>>>> posts for my online play by email Star trek game. It's a great
>>>> distraction free environment, forces me to get on with work and not
>>>> mess around.
>>>> 
>>>> This group is a great place for asking questions and chatting in
>>>> general about these awesome little computers.
>>>> 
>>>> James
>>>> 
>>> 
>> -- next part --
>> An HTML attachment was scrubbed...
>> URL: 
>> <http://lists.bitchin100.com/private.cgi/m100-bitchin100.com/attachments/20200720/dcbecfa5/attachment-0001.html>
>> 
>> --
>> 
>> Subject: Digest Footer
>> 
>> ___
>> M100 mailing list
>> M100@lists.bitchin100.com
>> http://lists.bitchin100.com/listinfo.cgi/m100-bitchin100.com
>> 
>> 
>> --
>> 
>> End of M100 Digest, Vol 115, Issue 22
>> *
> 
> -- 
> This email has been checked for viruses by AVG.
> https://www.avg.com
> 

Re: [M100] Still active?

[James Zeun]

A null modem cable and a pc with a serial terminal.

Or

Mcomm + an android phone + null modem cable and an RS-232 to USB adapter.



On Mon, 20 Jul 2020, 2:46 pm John Deitz,  wrote:

> Excellent point about forcing discipline. I would like to try. How do i
> get the text out of the machine to post?
>
> John C Deitz
>
> > On Jul 20, 2020, at 5:36 AM, James  wrote:
> >
> > On Sun, 19 Aug 2018 22:03:56 -0700
> > "John R. Hogerhuis"  wrote:
> >
> >> Mostly communication about new projects and questions / answers for
> >> support issues.
> >>
> >> -- John.
> >>
> >>
> >>> On Sun, Aug 19, 2018, 6:41 PM Adam Murray 
> >>> wrote:
> >>>
> >>> Hello.  Just wondering what kind of activity this group sees these
> >>> days.
> >>>
> >>>
> >
> > While I can't claim fame for designing some of the cracking hardware /
> > software some of the guys do.
> >
> > I mostly use my M100 for writing articles for my blog and also writing
> > posts for my online play by email Star trek game. It's a great
> > distraction free environment, forces me to get on with work and not
> > mess around.
> >
> > This group is a great place for asking questions and chatting in
> > general about these awesome little computers.
> >
> > James
> >
>
>

Re: [M100] TPDD Disk Imaging?

[James Zeun]

Hey

I have a TPDD-II, I've never written a disk image before but I'd be  
happy to try. I do have a REX and a NADsbox, so I figure I must be in  
a good position to copy image to the SDcard and then write it to floppy.


I might need someone to point me to the file that needs writing etc,  
but yeah i'd be happy to help. I am based in England, but postage for  
a floppy disk surely wont be that much, it weighs nothing.


Cheers
James

On 15 Jul 2020, at 03:24, RETRO Innovations wrote:


On 7/14/2020 7:36 PM, Ben Strewens wrote:
I have one of these drives, but no disk for it. I was able to do  
the PC hack to make it work, but I'd rather have the disk. Is  
there anyone in Canada that could make one for me for a small fee?


If I could get mine to image a disk (and vice versa), I would send  
you one.


But, while I was able ot use TPDDClient to read files from the  
disk, the READ IMAGE and WRITE IMAGE functions in that application  
do not seem to work.


Anyone know of another Windows app (or, failing that, a Linux app)  
I can use?


Jim

Re: [M100] DVI replacement floppy drive

[James Zeun]

The replacement drive I've bought was this

https://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/224046494179

My understanding was the stock drive in the DVI where 180k


On Tue, 7 Jul 2020, 8:15 pm Chris Fezzler,  wrote:

> Nice setup there!
>
> On Tuesday, July 7, 2020, 07:29:28 AM EDT, Mike Stein 
> wrote:
>
>
> ...or maybe even:
>
>
> - Original Message -
> *From:* James Zeun 
> *To:* M100 Mailing List 
> *Sent:* Friday, July 03, 2020 7:31 PM
> *Subject:* Re: [M100] DVI replacement floppy drive
>
> Wait, you actually have 3.5" floppy drives working on the DVI?
>
> Would not have expected that
>
> On Fri, 3 Jul 2020, 11:43 pm Greg Swallow,  wrote:
>
> James:
>
> I'd try it. Seems the DVI is pretty forgiving. I have boxes & boxes of old
> 3.5in diskettes. So, installed two 1.44mb drives in my DVI. I don't get
> 1.44mb or double sided, but I have plenty of media.
>
> GregS <><
>
> Jul 3, 2020 2:53:53 PM james.z...@gmail.com:
>
> > Would a 180kb floppy drive work in the DVI?
> >
> > Sent from my iPad
> >
>
>

Re: [M100] DVI replacement floppy drive

[James Zeun]

Now I do like that!! I've never seen one of those before!

On Tue, 7 Jul 2020, 12:29 pm Mike Stein,  wrote:

> ...or maybe even:
>
>
> - Original Message -
> *From:* James Zeun 
> *To:* M100 Mailing List 
> *Sent:* Friday, July 03, 2020 7:31 PM
> *Subject:* Re: [M100] DVI replacement floppy drive
>
> Wait, you actually have 3.5" floppy drives working on the DVI?
>
> Would not have expected that
>
> On Fri, 3 Jul 2020, 11:43 pm Greg Swallow,  wrote:
>
>> James:
>>
>> I'd try it. Seems the DVI is pretty forgiving. I have boxes & boxes of
>> old 3.5in diskettes. So, installed two 1.44mb drives in my DVI. I don't get
>> 1.44mb or double sided, but I have plenty of media.
>>
>> GregS <><
>>
>> Jul 3, 2020 2:53:53 PM james.z...@gmail.com:
>>
>> > Would a 180kb floppy drive work in the DVI?
>> >
>> > Sent from my iPad
>> >
>>
>

[M100] Finally got one!!

[James Zeun]

So since I acquired a DVI for my M100, I've been wanting to put something
in the empty second drive bay. As I had no blanking cover.

I was just about to get one from arcade shopper, when out of the blue I
find my self bagging a 180kb floppy drive, not just that, it's tested and
refurbed.

Just have to wait for it in the post. Had to post something, as I'm sitting
here happy as Larry.

-James

Re: [M100] DVI replacement floppy drive

[James Zeun]

Wait, you actually have 3.5" floppy drives working on the DVI?

Would not have expected that

On Fri, 3 Jul 2020, 11:43 pm Greg Swallow,  wrote:

> James:
>
> I'd try it. Seems the DVI is pretty forgiving. I have boxes & boxes of old
> 3.5in diskettes. So, installed two 1.44mb drives in my DVI. I don't get
> 1.44mb or double sided, but I have plenty of media.
>
> GregS <><
>
> Jul 3, 2020 2:53:53 PM james.z...@gmail.com:
>
> > Would a 180kb floppy drive work in the DVI?
> >
> > Sent from my iPad
> >
>

[M100] DVI replacement floppy drive

[james . zeun]

Would a 180kb floppy drive work in the DVI?



Sent from my iPad

Re: [M100] DVI Floppy drive or blanking cover

[James Zeun]

Oh that would be handy! Guessing you'd print it in black filament?

I know how gotek drives work on the Amiga, but how do they work in  
the DVI? is it possible to read the disk images on a modern system?




On 27 Jun 2020, at 23:43, Gregory McGill wrote:


I can 3d print one, or sell you a gotek to stick in there


On Sat, Jun 27, 2020 at 4:21 AM James Zeun   
wrote:


Hey guys

A random question, but thought it worth a shot.

Does anyone have a spare 180k floppy drive or perhaps a blanking
cover for the DVI?

At the moment I have a gaping hole in the front of my DVI and I'd
very much like to cover it up with something.

Or if anyone can recommend a few models of floppy drive I might be
able to look for on t'old fleabay, that would also be helpful.

Cheers
James

Re: [M100] Dock for T100

[James Zeun]

I think your referring to the DVI (Disk Video Interface)

I managed to get my hands on one of these earlier this year, they  
aren't bad for what they are (https://bytemyvdu.wordpress.com/ 
2020/03/28/tandy-trs-80-disk-video-interface/)


Before we had the REX, mComm and NADSbox, it certainly offered a  
route of expansion for the M100. Though it's not without some  
limitations, not sure I would have felt it was worth the money back  
in 1984.


Cheers
James


On 27 Jun 2020, at 10:07, Louis Lipp wrote:


Hello,
I saw a computer once, actually not a computer, but more like a  
dock, it had a single connector that looks like it was supposed to  
be socketed into one of the empty chip sockets. It had a monitor  
and if I remember well, it had a 5 1/4 disk drive as well. I'm not  
sure if it had any other outputs/inputs.

I am trying to remember the name of this device.
Do any of you recall?
Take care, Louis

[M100] DVI Floppy drive or blanking cover

[James Zeun]

Hey guys

A random question, but thought it worth a shot.

Does anyone have a spare 180k floppy drive or perhaps a blanking  
cover for the DVI?


At the moment I have a gaping hole in the front of my DVI and I'd  
very much like to cover it up with something.


Or if anyone can recommend a few models of floppy drive I might be  
able to look for on t'old fleabay, that would also be helpful.


Cheers
James

Re: [M100] REXCPM orders.

[James Zeun]

Hi Steve

Where can one find info about the REXCPM? I feel like I stepped away  
from the computer and missed a huge chunk of development and  
discussion haha


James

On 9 Jun 2020, at 00:23, Stephen Adolph wrote:


Hi everyone,

Just a note to say I am ready to take orders for REXCPM!
Information is at the REX wiki.
Model 100 only for now.
2MB and 4MB available.
Pricing is USD excluding shipping.

Note:  REX# is delayed as is the VT100 adapter due to mailing  
delays from China.


Cheers
Steve

Re: [M100] Starship Management Software

[James Zeun]

I think I must have missed this thread somehow, a starship manager? Is this
a game or some sort of utility to let me keep track of how many red shirts
I have left :-P

On Mon, 4 May 2020 at 04:18, D10D3 Data  wrote:

> Can you attach or link to your amended M100 version?
>
> On Sat, May 2, 2020 at 3:01 AM Jim Anderson  wrote:
>
>> > -Original Message-
>> > I wrote a utility on my NEC 8201A to aid the players in a scifi RPG I
>> > run. If anyone is curious I've posted the code
>> > here:  https://pastebin.com/9EJ7JbDN
>> > It's NEC basic, so it won't run on an M100 without a bit of porting, but
>> > if you have a NEC or run Virtual-T in NEC mode you can try it out. It's
>> > janky and far from optimized but it works.
>>
>> Catching up on old posts still.  Hey, that's pretty cool!  I've pasted in
>> a diff (below my signature) for the mods I made to make it run in M100 mode
>> in VirtualT (including a couple of edits, and fixing a logic error where
>> editing any cargo item's quantity changes your fuel quantity).  One thing:
>> it doesn't seem happy unless CARGO.DO is present and populated with at
>> least dummy data, and it wasn't obvious until I read the code that the
>> first item in the cargo needs to be fuel.
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>> jim
>>
>>
>> $ diff SHPSYS.NEC.txt SHPSYS.txt
>> 2c2,3
>> < 20  SCREEN 0,0:CLS:LOCATE 10,3:PRINT"INITIALIZING";
>> ---
>> > 15  REM ADAPTED TO THE M100 -JRA
>> > 20  SCREEN 0,0:CLS:PRINT@130,"INITIALIZING";
>> 44,47c45,48
>> < 700 LOCATE 0,0:PRINT"SYSTEMS ONLINE"
>> < 710 LOCATE 0,4:PRINT"N: NAVIGATION";
>> < 720 LOCATE 0,5:PRINT"C: CARGO MANAGER";
>> < 730 LOCATE 0,6:PRINT"Q: QUIT";
>> ---
>> > 700 PRINT@0,"SYSTEMS ONLINE"
>> > 710 PRINT@200,"N: NAVIGATION";
>> > 720 PRINT@240,"C: CARGO MANAGER";
>> > 730 PRINT@280,"Q: QUIT";
>> 82,83c83
>> < 1370 LOCATE 0,0
>> < 1380 PRINT"1.Abbadon7.Chelsea13.Lungold"
>> ---
>> > 1380 PRINT@0,"1.Abbadon7.Chelsea13.Lungold"
>> 91,92c91
>> < 1460 LOCATE 0,0
>> < 1470 PRINT"14.Medusa 20.Shiva"
>> ---
>> > 1470 PRINT@0,"14.Medusa 20.Shiva"
>> 117c116
>> < 1720 LOCATE 20,0:PRINT"DISTANCE:";
>> ---
>> > 1720 PRINT@20,"DISTANCE:";
>> 119c118
>> < 1740 LOCATE 20,1:PRINT"DAYS:";:PRINT USING A$; DIST;
>> ---
>> > 1740 PRINT@60,"DAYS:";:PRINT USING A$; DIST;
>> 121,122c120,121
>> < 1760 LOCATE 20,2:PRINT"FUEL USED:";:PRINT USING A$; DIST*2;
>> < 1762 LOCATE 20,4:PRINT"Execute Flight";:LOCATE 20,5:INPUT"Plan?(Y/N)";B$
>> ---
>> > 1760 PRINT@100,"FUEL USED:";:PRINT USING A$; DIST*2;
>> > 1762 PRINT@180,"Execute Flight";:PRINT@220,"";:INPUT"Plan?(Y/N)";B$
>> 124c123
>> < 1770 LOCATE 20,5:INPUT"ANOTHER(Y/N)  ";B$
>> ---
>> > 1770 PRINT@220,"";:INPUT"ANOTHER(Y/N)  ";B$
>> 153c152
>> < 2210 LOCATE 0,0:PRINT"NAME  TON   COST"
>> ---
>> > 2210 PRINT@0,"NAME  TON   COST"
>> 155,157c154,156
>> < 2230 LOCATE 1,L:PRINT CN$(I);:
>> < 2240 LOCATE 30,L:PRINT CT%(I);
>> < 2250 LOCATE 35,L:PRINT CC%(I);
>> ---
>> > 2230 PRINT@1+(L*40),CN$(I);:
>> > 2240 PRINT@30+(L*40),CT%(I);
>> > 2250 PRINT@35+(L*40),CC%(I);
>> 160c159
>> < 2280 LOCATE 0,7:PRINT"SELECT:U/D PAGE:L/R EDIT:ENT QUIT:ESC";
>> ---
>> > 2280 PRINT@280,"SELECT:U/D PAGE:L/R EDIT:ENT QUIT:ESC";
>> 173c172
>> < 2410 GOSUB 2480:INPUT"TONS:";A$:CT%(SE)=VAL(A$):FUEL%=VAL(A$)
>> ---
>> > 2410 GOSUB 2480:INPUT"TONS:";A$:CT%(SE)=VAL(A$):IF SE=1 THEN
>> FUEL%=VAL(A$)
>> 175c174
>> < 2430 IF SE>30 THEN SE=30!SLE IF SE<1 THE SE=1
>> ---
>> > 2430 IF SE>30 THEN SE=30 ELSE IF SE<1 THEN SE=1
>> 180,181c179,180
>> < 2480 LOCATE 0,7:PRINT" ";
>> < 2490 LOCATE 0,7:RETURN
>> ---
>> > 2480 PRINT@280," ";
>> > 2490 PRINT@280,"";:RETURN
>> 183c182
>> < 2510 IF DIST*2 > FUEL% THEN LOCATE 20,4:PRINT"INSUFFICIENT
>> FUEL";:LOCATE 20,5:INPUT"";B$
>> ---
>> > 2510 IF DIST*2 > FUEL% THEN PRINT@180,"INSUFFICIENT 
>> > FUEL";:PRINT@220,"";:INPUT"> A KEY>";B$
>>
>>

-- 
My retro tech blog and general ramblings
http://bytemyvdu.wordpress.com/

Re: [M100] Video adapter.

[james . zeun]

This is very interesting Steve! I’ve never used CP/M on my M100. But I was 
intrigued when you said your eventual hope, was to have it work natively.

I certainly would be interested in that if and when it came along!

Wishing you the best of luck on this!



Sent from my iPad

> On 5 Apr 2020, at 3:04 pm, Randy Kindig  wrote:
> 
> That’s fabulous Steve!  Count me in on one of those devices!
> 
> Randy Kindig
> 
> Sent from my iPhone
> 
>>> On Apr 5, 2020, at 8:41 AM, Stephen Adolph  wrote:
>>> 
>> 
>> As some of you may recall, it is fairly straightforward to access an 80x24 
>> screen in CP/M through the use of the M100 serial port, and an external 
>> VT100 emulator.
>> 
>> This device:
>> http://geoffg.net/terminal.html
>> 
>> is a great example of how to connect a modern VGA flat screen display to the 
>> M100.  However, this exact design isn't really convenient, as the serial 
>> data has to be connected with a custom cable.  (see the little white 4 pin 
>> header).
>> 
>> I've decided to make a variant of this design that has a DB-9 connector on 
>> it, for serial data, so that it can be easily connected to the M100.
>> 
>> I'll be making kits available for this design, and the price will be 30$ US. 
>>  Hopefully by making this affordable and easier to connect, this can become 
>> the defacto solution to 80x24 display!
>> 
>> This solution will work with CP/M right away, but the next task will be - 
>> how to use this solution with Model T natively.  This will take some 
>> software work.  A port of the "DVI software" to leverage serial 
>> communication to the VT100 adapter is one way to do this. 
>> 
>> This solution is also compatible with the "BCR serial port" modification 
>> which allows for serial data transmission at up to 120kbits/sec.   A nice 
>> solution to exernal video that frees up the real RS-232 port of the laptop 
>> for comms.
>> 
>> I'll be updating the REX wiki with some information on this.  Kits aren't 
>> ready just yet.  I'm waiting for my boards to arrive.
>> 
>> cheers
>> Steve
>> 
>> 

Re: [M100] EPSON SD521

[James Zeun]

So i asked him about the drive and if he'd tried the jumpers.

Here's the reply I received back

HIYour interest in this item is much appreciated---and-- Yes i have
tried with jumpers-and i always use good cables and connectors my
system now consists of 4 Teac 5 1/4"drives-and i usually know right
away if drives are compatible-so instead of hanging onto this single
working drive-i thought there could be someone out there that knows
about this model.
Thank You.
David.

On Sun, 29 Mar 2020 at 22:21, James Zeun  wrote:

> Well given the price, i'm tempted to buy it even as a spare.
>
> But i'm going to email the seller
>
> Thanks guys
>
>
> On Sun, 29 Mar 2020 at 20:40, Mike Stein  wrote:
>
>> I thought I had one of these drives but apparently not, so I can't help
>> much.
>>
>> But yes, it sounds quite possible that it's a jumper, termination or
>> cable issue, but there are more things in heaven and earth... ;-)
>>
>> I don't remember whether it was the DVI or not, but I remember a small
>> problem when I was adding a second drive to something: the edge connector
>> was on the opposite side of the existing drive, so the connectors on the
>> cable didn't reach across and one had to be moved.
>>
>> Good luck!
>>
>> - Original Message -
>> *From:* james.z...@gmail.com
>> *To:* m...@bitchin100.com
>> *Sent:* Sunday, March 29, 2020 10:01 AM
>> *Subject:* [M100] EPSON SD521
>>
>>
>> Hey guys
>>
>> I’m in the market to fit a second disk drive to my DVI, there’s slim
>> pickings on eBay atm. But I saw this one, which is listed as working, but
>> faulty.
>>
>> But I’m wondering if the “fault” isn’t actually just a jumper issue.
>> Anyone have experience with these drives? I wasn’t able to find much online
>> about jumpers (yet!)
>>
>>
>> https://rover.ebay.com/rover/0/0/0?mpre=https%3A%2F%2Fwww.ebay.co.uk%2Fulk%2Fitm%2F184210826199
>>
>> Sent from my iPad
>>
>>
>
> --
> My retro tech blog and general ramblings
> http://bytemyvdu.wordpress.com/
>


-- 
My retro tech blog and general ramblings
http://bytemyvdu.wordpress.com/

Re: [M100] EPSON SD521

[James Zeun]

Well given the price, i'm tempted to buy it even as a spare.

But i'm going to email the seller

Thanks guys


On Sun, 29 Mar 2020 at 20:40, Mike Stein  wrote:

> I thought I had one of these drives but apparently not, so I can't help
> much.
>
> But yes, it sounds quite possible that it's a jumper, termination or cable
> issue, but there are more things in heaven and earth... ;-)
>
> I don't remember whether it was the DVI or not, but I remember a small
> problem when I was adding a second drive to something: the edge connector
> was on the opposite side of the existing drive, so the connectors on the
> cable didn't reach across and one had to be moved.
>
> Good luck!
>
> - Original Message -
> *From:* james.z...@gmail.com
> *To:* m...@bitchin100.com
> *Sent:* Sunday, March 29, 2020 10:01 AM
> *Subject:* [M100] EPSON SD521
>
>
> Hey guys
>
> I’m in the market to fit a second disk drive to my DVI, there’s slim
> pickings on eBay atm. But I saw this one, which is listed as working, but
> faulty.
>
> But I’m wondering if the “fault” isn’t actually just a jumper issue.
> Anyone have experience with these drives? I wasn’t able to find much online
> about jumpers (yet!)
>
>
> https://rover.ebay.com/rover/0/0/0?mpre=https%3A%2F%2Fwww.ebay.co.uk%2Fulk%2Fitm%2F184210826199
>
> Sent from my iPad
>
>

-- 
My retro tech blog and general ramblings
http://bytemyvdu.wordpress.com/

[M100] EPSON SD521

[james . zeun]

Hey guys

I’m in the market to fit a second disk drive to my DVI, there’s slim pickings 
on eBay atm. But I saw this one, which is listed as working, but faulty.

But I’m wondering if the “fault” isn’t actually just a jumper issue. Anyone 
have experience with these drives? I wasn’t able to find much online about 
jumpers (yet!)

https://rover.ebay.com/rover/0/0/0?mpre=https%3A%2F%2Fwww.ebay.co.uk%2Fulk%2Fitm%2F184210826199

Sent from my iPad

Re: [M100] Uninstall Rex from memory

[James Zeun]

Ah! Sorry my misunderstanding. When I read power cycling, I thought something 
along the lines of doing a soft reset would reload the REXmgr. Which would be a 
neat trick, but not something I'd ever observed mine doing, but that could have 
been because the firmware wasn't the latest or something.

In which case mines working fine and dandy! :-D

Sent from my iPad

> On 27 Mar 2020, at 6:25 pm, Josh Malone  wrote:
> 
> Power-cycling on its own will not restore REXMGR, no. However, power-cycling 
> is a necessary step to restoring REXMGR (before running CALL63012) as it 
> forces REX back to "bootstrap" mode where flash block 0 is active, as Stephen 
> says.
> 
> -Josh
> 
>> On Fri, Mar 27, 2020 at 1:50 PM Stephen Adolph  wrote:
> 
>> what do you mean by "power cycling never works on mine"
>> what are you expecting to happen?
>> 
>> power cycling REX returns it to "nominal",where block 0 is active.
>> 
>>> On Fri, Mar 27, 2020 at 1:31 PM James Zeun  wrote:
>>> 
>>> 
>>> Power cycling never works on mine, I had a lot of issues getting my REX 
>>> working in my M100. Calling it does the trick though, I think I'm using the 
>>> most recent firmware. 

Re: [M100] Uninstall Rex from memory

[James Zeun]

Power cycling never works on mine, I had a lot of issues getting my REX
working in my M100. Calling it does the trick though, I think I'm using the
most recent firmware.

Just spend last hour typing away on my M100 - DVI setup, I could get used
to this hehe. Though after saving my document to floppy, I told it to save
to memory and my M100 started clicking internally every 5-7 seconds :-/


On Fri, 27 Mar 2020, 4:17 pm Stephen Adolph,  wrote:

> Also CNTL-X from MENU works.  It is a keyboard shortcut for REX.  Assume
> you are on latest software.
>
> What de-install means
> 1)  the hooks REX uses to interfere with the OS are removed
> End result
> * any optrom that was configured and made available, remains available,
> until you power off
> * this allows other software to occupy the "LOWRAM" location, allows other
> hook programs, etc.,
>
> you can always get back to REXManager by power cycling, and either
> re-running REXMGR, or by Call 63012.
>
>
> On Fri, Mar 27, 2020 at 11:22 AM James Zeun  wrote:
>
>> Thanks Josh!
>>
>> I just figured it out and feel a prize fool lol
>>
>> I've got the extension cable for my DVI and thought I'd figure out a
>> procedure for using my DVI alongside my REX.
>>
>>
>>
>> Sent from my iPad
>>
>> On 27 Mar 2020, at 3:18 pm, Josh Malone  wrote:
>>
>> Enter rexmgr and select DeIn (F7) to uninstall rexmgr
>>
>>
>> On Fri, Mar 27, 2020 at 11:15 AM James Zeun  wrote:
>>
>>> Hey guys
>>>
>>> I've never done this before, but I know someone mentioned I could use a
>>> command to uninstall the rex manager from memory. It's not as simple as
>>> KILL "rexmgr" is it?
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> Sent from my iPad
>>
>>

Re: [M100] Uninstall Rex from memory

[James Zeun]

Thanks Josh!

I just figured it out and feel a prize fool lol

I've got the extension cable for my DVI and thought I'd figure out a procedure 
for using my DVI alongside my REX.



Sent from my iPad

> On 27 Mar 2020, at 3:18 pm, Josh Malone  wrote:
> 
> Enter rexmgr and select DeIn (F7) to uninstall rexmgr
> 
> 
>> On Fri, Mar 27, 2020 at 11:15 AM James Zeun  wrote:
>> Hey guys
>> 
>> I've never done this before, but I know someone mentioned I could use a 
>> command to uninstall the rex manager from memory. It's not as simple as KILL 
>> "rexmgr" is it?
>> 
>> 
>> 
>> Sent from my iPad

Re: [M100] Uninstall Rex from memory

[James Zeun]

Forget I asked this, I just figured it out *hides face*

The words "big" and "idiot" come to mind ;-)



Sent from my iPad

> On 27 Mar 2020, at 3:15 pm, James Zeun  wrote:
> 
> Hey guys
> 
> I've never done this before, but I know someone mentioned I could use a 
> command to uninstall the rex manager from memory. It's not as simple as KILL 
> "rexmgr" is it?
> 
> 
> 
> Sent from my iPad

[M100] Uninstall Rex from memory

[James Zeun]

Hey guys

I've never done this before, but I know someone mentioned I could use a command 
to uninstall the rex manager from memory. It's not as simple as KILL "rexmgr" 
is it?



Sent from my iPad

Re: [M100] DVI cable length

[james . zeun]

Well the DVI won’t work with REX manager loaded in the computers memory. Which 
means, if I write a document and it’s relatively large. My options are, save it 
to floppy on the DVI or store it in memory and hope that there is enough free 
ram to load REX manager so I can load in the TS-DOS rom. Then I can transfer 
the document off the computer and on to SD card.

IF the DVI had saved in a TPDD format, it would have been a piece of cake. 
1. Save to disk
2. Unhook DVI
3. Load REX back in to memory
4. Connect TPDD2 and retrieve saved file


Sent from my iPad

> On 14 Mar 2020, at 1:16 am, Mike Stein  wrote:
> 
> 
> - Original Message ----- 
> From: James Zeun 
> To: m...@bitchin100.com 
> Sent: Friday, March 13, 2020 7:56 PM
> Subject: Re: [M100] DVI cable length
> 
> 
> > I'm gutted the DVI writes floppys in a different format to the TPDD. Curse 
> > you Tandy!
>  
> Just curious; what'd you have in mind?
> 
> 

Re: [M100] DVI cable length

[James Zeun]

You know what, it's very tempting as I find soldering very cathartic. But
the cable is ordered now.

I'm gutted the DVI writes floppys in a different format to the TPDD. Curse
you Tandy!



On Fri, 13 Mar 2020, 6:16 pm Brian K. White,  wrote:

> On 3/13/20 5:15 AM, James Zeun wrote:
> > Well of course I knew I could buy a £4 cable and save myself half an
> > hour soldering 40 wires, well 80! What do you take me for some sort of
> > idiot? *Cough* :-P
> >
> > There's always someone with a bright idea. Well I'm going to make coffee
> > and try to not feel too disappointed about all that soldering I'm
> > missing out on, now I have a 30cm extension cable ordered.
> >
> > *Goes off grumbling to himself*
> >
> > Thanks Brian! ;-)
>
> Someone else said splice you didn't, but in this same conversation, so I
> just addressed it all in one post.
>
> Are you *sure* you don't want to perform 80 solder and heat-shrink
> splices? It can be very zen. :)
>
> --
> bkw
>
> > On Fri, 13 Mar 2020, 5:34 am Brian White,  > <mailto:b.kenyo...@gmail.com>> wrote:
> >
> > It's easier than that. If you take pretty much any idc connector and
> > put it back to back or hed yo head with another, the end result is
> > the "twist" where pin 1 switches places with pin 40, pin 2 switches
> > places with pin 39, etc.
> >
> > What I mean by "any idc" is, for instance, a wire-to-board back to
> > back with a male pin header. That makes a Model 102 or 200 cable.
> >
> >
> http://tandy.wiki/Disk/Video_Interface:_Cable#Cable_supporting_models_102_and_200_only
> >
> > Another form of the same thing is if you put 2 male pin headers back
> > to back, that makes an adapter that can serve as the the twisty part
> > on a cable set that works on all 3 models.
> >
> > http://tandy.wiki/Disk/Video_Interface:_Cable
> >
> > Or head to head: Mike Stein showed me (well everyone) that if you
> > just take any standard 40 pin cables and butt two female ends face
> > to face with a "gender changer" pin header, that results in the same
> > twist.
> >
> > That page above has links to buy all the odd parts for the different
> > ways to do it.
> >
> > But for a pcb to do the switcheroo, the pcb is nothing more than 40
> > straight lines just to make it easier to solder two plugs back to
> > back. See the "twist adapter" link in that page.
> >
> > You don't have to splice anything to make the cable longer. Just buy
> > or make a bog-standard 40 pin male-female extension cable, and stick
> > it on the DVI end of the cable. They are readily available pre-made
> > and cheap these days in the form of "gpio" cables for arduino or
> > raspberry pi.
> >
> > You can search "male female gpio" or similar on ebay or just pick a
> > length here:
> >
> > http://www.cablesonline.com/240pinidedir.html
> >
> > --
> > bkw
> >
> > On Thu, Mar 12, 2020, 5:33 PM RETRO Innovations
> > mailto:go4re...@go4retro.com>> wrote:
> >
> > On 3/12/2020 4:17 PM, Mike Stein wrote:
> >> 
> >> Hi Jim,
> >> I wouldn't call it a newbie mistake ;-) Those 'non-standard'
> >> 40-pin DIP headers have been impossible to find; maybe with
> >> your resources you can find some somewhere so they can just
> >> simply be crimped on.
> >
> > I'm wondering if the switch could be made at the other end, with
> > a small PCB and the respective female header attached to it...
> >
> >
>
>
> --
> bkw
>

Re: [M100] DVI cable length

[James Zeun]

Well of course I knew I could buy a £4 cable and save myself half an hour
soldering 40 wires, well 80! What do you take me for some sort of idiot?
*Cough* :-P

There's always someone with a bright idea. Well I'm going to make coffee
and try to not feel too disappointed about all that soldering I'm missing
out on, now I have a 30cm extension cable ordered.

*Goes off grumbling to himself*

Thanks Brian! ;-)






On Fri, 13 Mar 2020, 5:34 am Brian White,  wrote:

> It's easier than that. If you take pretty much any idc connector and put
> it back to back or hed yo head with another, the end result is the "twist"
> where pin 1 switches places with pin 40, pin 2 switches places with pin 39,
> etc.
>
> What I mean by "any idc" is, for instance, a wire-to-board back to back
> with a male pin header. That makes a Model 102 or 200 cable.
>
>
> http://tandy.wiki/Disk/Video_Interface:_Cable#Cable_supporting_models_102_and_200_only
>
> Another form of the same thing is if you put 2 male pin headers back to
> back, that makes an adapter that can serve as the the twisty part on a
> cable set that works on all 3 models.
>
> http://tandy.wiki/Disk/Video_Interface:_Cable
>
> Or head to head: Mike Stein showed me (well everyone) that if you just
> take any standard 40 pin cables and butt two female ends face to face with
> a "gender changer" pin header, that results in the same twist.
>
> That page above has links to buy all the odd parts for the different ways
> to do it.
>
> But for a pcb to do the switcheroo, the pcb is nothing more than 40
> straight lines just to make it easier to solder two plugs back to back. See
> the "twist adapter" link in that page.
>
> You don't have to splice anything to make the cable longer. Just buy or
> make a bog-standard 40 pin male-female extension cable, and stick it on the
> DVI end of the cable. They are readily available pre-made and cheap these
> days in the form of "gpio" cables for arduino or raspberry pi.
>
> You can search "male female gpio" or similar on ebay or just pick a length
> here:
>
> http://www.cablesonline.com/240pinidedir.html
>
> --
> bkw
>
> On Thu, Mar 12, 2020, 5:33 PM RETRO Innovations 
> wrote:
>
>> On 3/12/2020 4:17 PM, Mike Stein wrote:
>>
>> 
>> Hi Jim,
>>
>> I wouldn't call it a newbie mistake ;-) Those 'non-standard' 40-pin DIP
>> headers have been impossible to find; maybe with your resources you can
>> find some somewhere so they can just simply be crimped on.
>>
>>
>> I'm wondering if the switch could be made at the other end, with a small
>> PCB and the respective female header attached to it...
>>
>>

Re: [M100] DVI cable length

[James Zeun]

Jim the header you used to connect to the underside of the M100 is pretty
darn sturdy, I'm not sure why it was acting up. Best guess it a loose wire
some where or something like that, I'll check it out with my meter when I
get started on this.
Still I'm going to re-purpose it and try make a new, extended super DVI
cable, which will hopefully allow me to use the DVI the way I want to.

For those who might like to know, thus far using the US DVI here in the UK
has been a breeze. I'm using a step down brick for now, with a new PSU on
the way. See link to new dual output PSU
https://www.aliexpress.com/item/32981279958.html?spm=a2g0s.9042311.0.0.72964c4deypKfb

Hopefully when this arrives, it will be (fingers firmly crossed) an easy
job of swapping out the old US power supply with the new one and thus
eliminating the need for the step down brick.
I'm displaying the DVI through RF or UHF if you prefer and the picture
while a little fuzzy is perfectly acceptable given the age. I've not
actually look in to the DVI's other video output option, which I think was
intended for Tandy branded monitors. I'm slowly figuring out a method for
using the unit for writing, while being able to get the created document on
to my NADSbox. I use the M100 for creative writing and also doing articles
for my blog, so one way or the other the document needs to end up on SD
card.

Random question does the DVI save data to floppy disk in the same format as
the TPDD?



On Thu, 12 Mar 2020 at 19:21, RETRO Innovations 
wrote:

> On 3/12/2020 12:08 PM, James Zeun wrote:
>
> The home made cable that came with the DVI kept dropping connection, as I
> have a replacement I don't feel so bad about experimenting with it.
>
> I'm to blame, and I thought I should note it before someone else gets
> caught
>
> I have a TANDY cable, and 2 DVIs (package buy, as I recall).  I know how
> useless the DVI is without a cable, so I took a spot of IDE cable and
> purchased a 40 pin IDC header on Digikey to make up a second cable, test
> it, and then sell the unit.
>
> Notes:
>
>- Stupid issue.  Forgot about the key in some IDE cables.  Not all
>have the key, the spare I selected had one.  No major issue, a bit of drill
>action and that's done (the cable has the connector in that spot, just
>covered with plastic)
>- More nuanced issue.  The headers from Digikey have the first wire
>going to pin 1, second to pin 40, etc.  But, as I recall, the Model 100
>needs the first wire to to go to pin 40, then 1, then 39, etc. (might be
>backwards on the numbering, but hopefully the text illustrates the
>mirroring).  Anyway, I had to pull the unit apart, cut the cable into 2
>strand sections, twist them, and then re-assemble.
>
> I assume I made a newbie mistake on the header I needed to buy, but maybe
> this helps the next person wanting to construct a cable (or cable-like item)
>
> Jim
>
>
> --
> RETRO Innovations, Contemporary Gear for Classic 
> Systemswww.go4retro.comstore.go4retro.com
>
>

-- 
My retro tech blog and general ramblings
http://bytemyvdu.wordpress.com/

Re: [M100] DVI cable length

[James Zeun]

Hi everyone

I thought I'd reply to this one and reply to MikeS at the same time.

Again sorry for the double post, I was tired and using my phone, always a
bad combination.

So MikeS has a 2ft long cable, I'm not sure if this is shielded or not.
Mike can you let us know?

Brian, yes my cable did come from Arcadeshopper, it's a lovely cable,
though I'll be honest I'm not sure how much I trust myself before bending a
pin on that connector :-P

The home made cable that came with the DVI kept dropping connection, as I
have a replacement I don't feel so bad about experimenting with it. My plan
was to chop the IDC connector off the end and solder a new length of cable
to it. MikeS has set the bar with his 2 foot long cable, mine shouldn't be
that long but it will have a join in it and my experience is that where
ever you solder two wires together, you get a drop. Whether it is enough to
upset communication between computer and DVI is something I guess I'm going
to find out.


On Thu, 12 Mar 2020 at 16:46, Mike Stein  wrote:

> The original genuine cables *were* (partially) shielded, although probably
> more for RFI prevention than signal integrity:
>
>
> - Original Message -
> *From:* Brian White 
> *To:* m...@bitchin100.com
> *Sent:* Thursday, March 12, 2020 12:01 PM
> *Subject:* Re: [M100] DVI cable length
>
> I saw the post, I just didn't know an answer better than "easy enough to
> just try it" which is not all that helpful, but I guess at least then you
> would have known your post posted.
>
> Although part of the cable has special wiring and connectors, once you
> have a proper cable, it doesn't require anything special to add an
> extension to the DVI end of it.
>
> I'm actually already amazed that a raw system bus going out over an
> unshielded ribbon cable works at all, but I guess the DVI came enough years
> after the Model 1 expansion interface debacle that they learned how to do
> that better. ;)
>
> If you got a new cable from Arcade Shopper I probably built it.
>
> I haven't tried any long runs or done any reliability testing to find the
> longest run that not merely appears to work, but is definitely safe from
> corruption. You don't want data you can't trust, and I don't know, and
> wouldn't want to rely on, how much fancy error detection and correction is
> going on at low levels. Like does every block written or read from the disk
> come along with a checksum? Until I knew that, I would want that bus to be
> as clean as possible.
>
> --
> bkw
>
> On Thu, Mar 12, 2020, 11:04 AM James Zeun  wrote:
>
>>
>> Hey everyone
>>
>> Think I might have messed up messaging the list last night, so I'm
>> sending my post again. My apologies if it did go through.
>>
>> Just a quick question, how long can a DVI link cable be? My new cable
>> arrived today and while it's longer than what I had, I could still do with
>> it being 20-30cm longer. I have the DVI sitting at an angle to the left of
>> me on the desk, with my TV/Monitor flatscreen sitting on top of it. Using
>> the new cable, it seems the intended way to use the DVI is with the M100
>> sat directly in front of it. However that isn't really comfortable nor
>> practical with my setup, neither do I really want the monitor directly
>> facing me. I regularly clear the center of my desk for soldering which is
>> why the monitor sits in the corner out the way.
>>
>> I did get a home made cable with my DVI and while it is rather short
>> (25cm), I'm wondering if I couldn't extending it another 30cm so the M100
>> can sit in front of me and the DVI to the side.
>>
>> As always any and all input is welcome, I'm probably going to give it a
>> shot either way. I just thought I'd see if anyone new if there was a limit
>> before signal loss is to much.
>>
>> Cheers
>> James
>> --
>> My retro tech blog and general ramblings
>> http://bytemyvdu.wordpress.com/
>>
>

-- 
My retro tech blog and general ramblings
http://bytemyvdu.wordpress.com/

[M100] DVI cable length

[James Zeun]

Hey everyone

Think I might have messed up messaging the list last night, so I'm sending
my post again. My apologies if it did go through.

Just a quick question, how long can a DVI link cable be? My new cable
arrived today and while it's longer than what I had, I could still do with
it being 20-30cm longer. I have the DVI sitting at an angle to the left of
me on the desk, with my TV/Monitor flatscreen sitting on top of it. Using
the new cable, it seems the intended way to use the DVI is with the M100
sat directly in front of it. However that isn't really comfortable nor
practical with my setup, neither do I really want the monitor directly
facing me. I regularly clear the center of my desk for soldering which is
why the monitor sits in the corner out the way.

I did get a home made cable with my DVI and while it is rather short
(25cm), I'm wondering if I couldn't extending it another 30cm so the M100
can sit in front of me and the DVI to the side.

As always any and all input is welcome, I'm probably going to give it a
shot either way. I just thought I'd see if anyone new if there was a limit
before signal loss is to much.

Cheers
James
-- 
My retro tech blog and general ramblings
http://bytemyvdu.wordpress.com/

Re: [M100] Getting my hands on a REX

[James Zeun]

I'm pretty sure my REX came from Stephen. I remember my M100 was a little
picky. Stephen was really supportive and even helped me get an updated Y2k
compliant ROM to my machine.

The REX is a top bit of kit!




On Mon, 2 Mar 2020, 3:06 am Stephen Adolph,  wrote:

> You can get one from the original!
> Contact me off list,  cheers
>
> On Sunday, March 1, 2020, Joshua O'Keefe  wrote:
>
>> I'm new to the 100 and am highly interested in getting my hands on a REX
>> in order to be productive on my machine.  It looks like arcadeshopper is
>> sold out, and club100 is on hiatus.  Is there another source, or does
>> someone have one they'd be willing to part with?
>
>

Re: [M100] REX & DVI

[james . zeun]

Thanks buddy! Really appreciate it

Sent from my iPad

> On 27 Feb 2020, at 3:07 pm, Gregory McGill  wrote:
> 
> 
> I may have more..will check inventory today check back in a few
> 
> 
>> On Thu, Feb 27, 2020 at 6:58 AM RETRO Innovations  
>> wrote:
>> On 2/27/2020 3:30 AM, James Zeun wrote:
>> >
>> >
>> > I do desperately need a new DVI cable, can anyone help?
>> 
>> I was going to suggest ArcadeShopper's site, but it looks like he's out 
>> of stock at present.  Maybe nudge him to make some more:
>> 
>> https://www.arcadeshopper.com/wp/?page_id=11#!/Disk-Video-Interface-cable-kit-for-Models-100-102-200/p/141211030/category=28313042
>> 
>> 

Re: [M100] REX & DVI

[James Zeun]

That's really disappointing, I wish I had know before I bought it. The
whole point of getting the DVI was so that I could continue working on
documents at home on a bigger screen. I'd have just as been well to have
taken the SD card out of my NADSbox and stuck it in a winblows PC.

Anyways I won't let that dampen my spirits! I'll figure something out.
Maybe a gotek drive in the DVI? Anyone tried that?

I do desperately need a new DVI cable, can anyone help?





On Thu, 27 Feb 2020, 12:44 am Stephen Adolph,  wrote:

> I agree.  I dont think the issue is with rex.
>
> On Wednesday, February 26, 2020, Gregory McGill 
> wrote:
>
>> I think the answer is no which is why i put my dvi on the shelf and gave
>> up for a bit
>>
>> On Wed, Feb 26, 2020 at 4:41 PM Stephen Adolph 
>> wrote:
>>
>>> Does anyone know if tsdos is at all compatible with dvi?
>>>
>>> Dvi installs software of it's own.
>>>
>>> Does tsdos support access to the dvi?
>>>
>>> Can tsdos ram version be coresident with dvi software?
>>>
>>> If the answer is no then you have to do some serious gymnastics to
>>> transfer from pc to m100 using tsdos, and then from m100 to dvi using dvi
>>> dos.
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> On Wednesday, February 26, 2020, James Zeun 
>>> wrote:
>>>
>>>> Would it be possible to copy TR-DOS from the M100 to a floppy?
>>>> Load it up through the DVI?
>>>> I've never uninstalled a program, so not sure where F7 comes in to it.
>>>> Could I not simply KILL the rex manager?
>>>>
>>>> I wanted the DVi for typing, but I need the REX for TR-DOS. So I can
>>>> save my documents to SD CARD or TPDD etc.
>>>>
>>>> On Thu, 27 Feb 2020, 12:15 am Stephen Adolph, 
>>>> wrote:
>>>>
>>>>> Unload means deinstall using F7.  Not remove REX.  REX can stay
>>>>> installed physically...just deinstall rexmgr.ba.
>>>>>
>>>>> On Wednesday, February 26, 2020, Kurt McCullum 
>>>>> wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>>> You can select TS-DOS with REX and then unload the REX manager. That
>>>>>> way it looks to the M100 like a regular ROM is loaded and the DVI should
>>>>>> work just fine from there.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Kurt
>>>>>>
>>>>>> On Wed, Feb 26, 2020, at 2:55 PM, Gregory McGill wrote:
>>>>>>
>>>>>> well transferring files from a pc with mcomm/laddealpha to dvi is
>>>>>> facilitated by having rexmgr load tsdos..
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>> On Wed, Feb 26, 2020 at 2:46 PM Stephen Adolph 
>>>>>> wrote:
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Yep.
>>>>>> What I would do is make use of the deinstall function on rexmgr when
>>>>>> you want to use dvi.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Of course I dont know of many option roms that work with dvi anyways.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> What did you want to do that requires both rex and dvi?
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>> On Wednesday, February 26, 2020, Gregory McGill <
>>>>>> arcadeshop...@gmail.com> wrote:
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Pretty sure I posted this a while back :)  yes they both want the
>>>>>> same memory which is a bummer for transferring data between!
>>>>>>
>>>>>> On Wed, Feb 26, 2020 at 2:17 PM Josh Malone 
>>>>>> wrote:
>>>>>>
>>>>>> That has been my experience as well. It appears that something done
>>>>>> by REXMGR interferes with the loading of DVI DOS. The REX can still be 
>>>>>> used
>>>>>> as an option ROM, but REXMGR cannot coexist.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> On Wed, Feb 26, 2020, 4:33 PM James Zeun 
>>>>>> wrote:
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Does the REX work with the DVI?
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Only I'm having serious issues getting my recently acquired DVI to
>>>>>> work with my M100. It only seems to function with the REX manger is wiped
>>>>>> from memory.
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>

Re: [M100] REX & DVI

[James Zeun]

Would it be possible to copy TR-DOS from the M100 to a floppy?
Load it up through the DVI?
I've never uninstalled a program, so not sure where F7 comes in to it.
Could I not simply KILL the rex manager?

I wanted the DVi for typing, but I need the REX for TR-DOS. So I can save
my documents to SD CARD or TPDD etc.

On Thu, 27 Feb 2020, 12:15 am Stephen Adolph,  wrote:

> Unload means deinstall using F7.  Not remove REX.  REX can stay installed
> physically...just deinstall rexmgr.ba.
>
> On Wednesday, February 26, 2020, Kurt McCullum  wrote:
>
>> You can select TS-DOS with REX and then unload the REX manager. That way
>> it looks to the M100 like a regular ROM is loaded and the DVI should work
>> just fine from there.
>>
>> Kurt
>>
>> On Wed, Feb 26, 2020, at 2:55 PM, Gregory McGill wrote:
>>
>> well transferring files from a pc with mcomm/laddealpha to dvi is
>> facilitated by having rexmgr load tsdos..
>>
>>
>>
>> On Wed, Feb 26, 2020 at 2:46 PM Stephen Adolph 
>> wrote:
>>
>> Yep.
>> What I would do is make use of the deinstall function on rexmgr when you
>> want to use dvi.
>>
>> Of course I dont know of many option roms that work with dvi anyways.
>>
>> What did you want to do that requires both rex and dvi?
>>
>>
>>
>> On Wednesday, February 26, 2020, Gregory McGill 
>> wrote:
>>
>> Pretty sure I posted this a while back :)  yes they both want the same
>> memory which is a bummer for transferring data between!
>>
>> On Wed, Feb 26, 2020 at 2:17 PM Josh Malone 
>> wrote:
>>
>> That has been my experience as well. It appears that something done by
>> REXMGR interferes with the loading of DVI DOS. The REX can still be used as
>> an option ROM, but REXMGR cannot coexist.
>>
>> On Wed, Feb 26, 2020, 4:33 PM James Zeun  wrote:
>>
>> Does the REX work with the DVI?
>>
>> Only I'm having serious issues getting my recently acquired DVI to work
>> with my M100. It only seems to function with the REX manger is wiped from
>> memory.
>>
>>
>>
>>

[M100] REX & DVI

[James Zeun]

Does the REX work with the DVI?

Only I'm having serious issues getting my recently acquired DVI to work
with my M100. It only seems to function with the REX manger is wiped from
memory.

Re: [M100] Using a US DVI unit in the UK

[James Zeun]

I can't say I've encountered that brand here in the UK.

I'll have to look it up


On Thu, 20 Feb 2020, 2:56 pm Josh Malone,  wrote:

> I would think that replacing the internal DC power supply would be the
> best long-term option. No idea about the quality of the one you linked to.
> I usually prefer a brand like meanwell or something.
>
> On Thu, Feb 20, 2020, 6:12 AM james  wrote:
>
>> Hey guys
>>
>> Not got my DVI powered up yet, still waiting on the step down unit to
>> arrive.
>>
>> Thought I'd post up some progress I've made looking for solutions to
>> using a 120v unit here in the UK. I saw this unit on Aliexpress. Dual
>> Output AC Converter 110v 220v to DC 12V 8A - 5V 1A 100W Switching Power
>> Supply.
>>
>>
>> https://www.aliexpress.com/item/32981279958.html?spm=a2g0s.8937460.0.0.49532e0eUgoeHF
>>
>> I'm thinking something like this could be the answer, admittedly I will
>> still be stuck with a 60hz video output. But I'm hoping my 17" LCD TV /
>> Monitor can handle this, after all it's only a black and white output. One
>> hurdle at a time I guess.
>>
>> -James
>>
>>
>>

Re: [M100] Using a US DVI unit in the UK

[James Zeun]

I'm crossing my fingers. I figure replace the power lead and wire it up to
the step down. Then wire the step down to where ever the mains connects up
inside the DVI.

Maybe down the road with the advice of some on here. I might try making my
DVI UK compliant, using the service manual as a guide.


On Sun, 16 Feb 2020, 7:48 pm B4 Me100,  wrote:

> That looks like a neat small unit.  If you can get it internally mounted
> near the fan it should be a good option.
>
> From: M100  on behalf of James Zeun <
> james.z...@gmail.com>
> Reply-To: 
> Date: Sunday, February 16, 2020 at 7:30 PM
> To: 
> Subject: Re: [M100] Using a US DVI unit in the UK
>
> First I'd like to thank everyone for their input thus far. And especially
> for not just telling me to buy an adaptor and stop making my life so
> difficult.
>
> I've gone ahead and bought this.
>
> https://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/391506287248
> <https://nam10.safelinks.protection.outlook.com/?url=https%3A%2F%2Fwww.ebay.co.uk%2Fitm%2F391506287248=02%7C01%7C%7C360e7a1df37148e32c6f08d7b3169b58%7C84df9e7fe9f640afb435%7C1%7C0%7C637174781978690063=LsVXHkBkicdGkn9rIZzh7lzS48NGLfsfviL0DGV4CZ4%3D=0>
>
> My thoughts were, remove it's guts and fit them inside the DVI (If I can).
> It looks fairly compact.
>
>
>
> On Sun, 16 Feb 2020, 2:41 pm Jonathan Yuen,  wrote:
>
>> Don't worry about the frequency for the drives.
>>
>> Floppy drives run on 5/12 volts DC, there is no AC there.  Table saw had
>> an induction motor, so a 60Hz motor goes slower on 50Hz.
>>
>> jonathan.y...@mykopat.slu.se
>> 
>> Från: M100 [m100-boun...@lists.bitchin100.com] för james.z...@gmail.com [
>> james.z...@gmail.com]
>> Skickat: den 16 februari 2020 12:10
>> Till: m...@bitchin100.com
>> Ämne: Re: [M100] Using a US DVI unit in the UK
>>
>> Thanks guys
>>
>> I might give this a try, I’ve not taken the lid off my DVI yet (wasn’t
>> any call to) but I was kind of hoping I could do all this inside the unit,
>> fit the step down transformer inside the case. Just to keep things neat and
>> tidy.
>>
>> On the subject of motors, the floppy drives should still operate as
>> normal? With Jonathan mentioning his table saw, it got me wondering.
>>
>>
>>
>>
>> Sent from my iPad
>>
>> > On 16 Feb 2020, at 10:57 am, Jonathan Yuen 
>> wrote:
>> >
>> > Theoretically, transformers and motors made to run at 60Hz may
>> overheat at 50Hz.  I actually asked Steve Ciarcia's Circuit Cellar (who
>> remembers that?) about this and got a fairly good answer.  I had a
>> Hammarlund Super Pro receiver once upon a time (US Signal Corps surplus)
>> with a transformer that was good down to 25Hz and the power supply weighed
>> a lot becasue of the steel in the transformer.
>> >
>> > In actual practice this has never happened to me, and I've migrated to
>> the 50Hz world from the US.  I even run a Sears table saw with its 60Hz
>> motor on 50Hz (OK, it turns a bit slower) and figured I would just buy a
>> new motor (maybe even 3 phase) when it burned out.  Hasn't happened yet.
>> >
>> > Jonathan
>> >
>> > 
>> > Från: M100 [m100-boun...@lists.bitchin100.com] för B4 Me100 [
>> b4me...@hotmail.com]
>> > Skickat: den 16 februari 2020 11:35
>> > Till: m...@bitchin100.com
>> > Ämne: Re: [M100] Using a US DVI unit in the UK
>> >
>> > It should not,  the changes made to use European voltages appear to be
>> limited to the power supply area.  There is a built in clock circuit that
>> does not depend on the frequency of the supply.
>> >
>> > From: M100 > m100-boun...@lists.bitchin100.com>> on behalf of > <mailto:james.z...@gmail.com>>
>> > Reply-To: mailto:m...@bitchin100.com>>
>> > Date: Sunday, February 16, 2020 at 10:02 AM
>> > To: mailto:m...@bitchin100.com>>
>> > Subject: Re: [M100] Using a US DVI unit in the UK
>> >
>> > Would it effect the 50 / 60 hz frequency issue?
>> >
>> >
>> >
>> > Sent from my iPad
>> >
>> > On 16 Feb 2020, at 6:38 am, B4 Me100 > b4me...@hotmail.com>> wrote:
>> >
>> > 
>> > That should work.  Although I would probably enclose it to prevent
>> accidentally touching the 240/110V.
>> >
>> > From: M100 > m100-boun...@lists.bitchin100.com>> on behalf of James Zeun <
>> james.z...@gmail.com<mailto:james.z...@gmail.com>&

Re: [M100] Using a US DVI unit in the UK

[James Zeun]

First I'd like to thank everyone for their input thus far. And especially
for not just telling me to buy an adaptor and stop making my life so
difficult.

I've gone ahead and bought this.

https://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/391506287248

My thoughts were, remove it's guts and fit them inside the DVI (If I can).
It looks fairly compact.



On Sun, 16 Feb 2020, 2:41 pm Jonathan Yuen,  wrote:

> Don't worry about the frequency for the drives.
>
> Floppy drives run on 5/12 volts DC, there is no AC there.  Table saw had
> an induction motor, so a 60Hz motor goes slower on 50Hz.
>
> jonathan.y...@mykopat.slu.se
> 
> Från: M100 [m100-boun...@lists.bitchin100.com] för james.z...@gmail.com [
> james.z...@gmail.com]
> Skickat: den 16 februari 2020 12:10
> Till: m...@bitchin100.com
> Ämne: Re: [M100] Using a US DVI unit in the UK
>
> Thanks guys
>
> I might give this a try, I’ve not taken the lid off my DVI yet (wasn’t any
> call to) but I was kind of hoping I could do all this inside the unit, fit
> the step down transformer inside the case. Just to keep things neat and
> tidy.
>
> On the subject of motors, the floppy drives should still operate as
> normal? With Jonathan mentioning his table saw, it got me wondering.
>
>
>
>
> Sent from my iPad
>
> > On 16 Feb 2020, at 10:57 am, Jonathan Yuen  wrote:
> >
> > Theoretically, transformers and motors made to run at 60Hz may overheat
> at 50Hz.  I actually asked Steve Ciarcia's Circuit Cellar (who remembers
> that?) about this and got a fairly good answer.  I had a Hammarlund Super
> Pro receiver once upon a time (US Signal Corps surplus) with a transformer
> that was good down to 25Hz and the power supply weighed a lot becasue of
> the steel in the transformer.
> >
> > In actual practice this has never happened to me, and I've migrated to
> the 50Hz world from the US.  I even run a Sears table saw with its 60Hz
> motor on 50Hz (OK, it turns a bit slower) and figured I would just buy a
> new motor (maybe even 3 phase) when it burned out.  Hasn't happened yet.
> >
> > Jonathan
> >
> > 
> > Från: M100 [m100-boun...@lists.bitchin100.com] för B4 Me100 [
> b4me...@hotmail.com]
> > Skickat: den 16 februari 2020 11:35
> > Till: m...@bitchin100.com
> > Ämne: Re: [M100] Using a US DVI unit in the UK
> >
> > It should not,  the changes made to use European voltages appear to be
> limited to the power supply area.  There is a built in clock circuit that
> does not depend on the frequency of the supply.
> >
> > From: M100  m100-boun...@lists.bitchin100.com>> on behalf of  <mailto:james.z...@gmail.com>>
> > Reply-To: mailto:m...@bitchin100.com>>
> > Date: Sunday, February 16, 2020 at 10:02 AM
> > To: mailto:m...@bitchin100.com>>
> > Subject: Re: [M100] Using a US DVI unit in the UK
> >
> > Would it effect the 50 / 60 hz frequency issue?
> >
> >
> >
> > Sent from my iPad
> >
> > On 16 Feb 2020, at 6:38 am, B4 Me100  b4me...@hotmail.com>> wrote:
> >
> > 
> > That should work.  Although I would probably enclose it to prevent
> accidentally touching the 240/110V.
> >
> > From: M100  m100-boun...@lists.bitchin100.com>> on behalf of James Zeun <
> james.z...@gmail.com<mailto:james.z...@gmail.com>>
> > Reply-To: mailto:m...@bitchin100.com>>
> > Date: Sunday, February 16, 2020 at 1:03 AM
> > To: mailto:m...@bitchin100.com>>
> > Subject: Re: [M100] Using a US DVI unit in the UK
> >
> > I know little about power supplies, but I saw this and wondered if it
> wouldn't be any use for my situation.
> >
> https://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/MV-100-P1S1-Multi-Voltage-240V-to-110V-Transformer-100VA/332172908312?hash=item4d570c5718:g:GEEAAOSwb7ddLEFV
> <
> https://nam04.safelinks.protection.outlook.com/?url=https%3A%2F%2Fwww.ebay.co.uk%2Fitm%2FMV-100-P1S1-Multi-Voltage-240V-to-110V-Transformer-100VA%2F332172908312%3Fhash%3Ditem4d570c5718%3Ag%3AGEEAAOSwb7ddLEFV=02%7C01%7C%7C789357eab34f4e279a7408d7b2c757bf%7C84df9e7fe9f640afb435%7C1%7C0%7C637174441542688474=qhv0OtQjOo3DGUoPmJNVwrSwKVYX6Vkh2miUsKG%2B50Y%3D=0
> >
> > Taking a 240V input and converting it to a more acceptable 110v for the
> DVI.
> > ---
> > När du skickar e-post till SLU så innebär detta att SLU behandlar dina
> personuppgifter. För att läsa mer om hur detta går till, klicka här <
> https://www.slu.se/om-slu/kontakta-slu/personuppgifter/>
> > E-mailing SLU will result in SLU processing your personal data. For more
> information on how this is done, click here <
> https://www.slu.se/en/about-slu/contact-slu/personal-data/>
> ---
> När du skickar e-post till SLU så innebär detta att SLU behandlar dina
> personuppgifter. För att läsa mer om hur detta går till, klicka här <
> https://www.slu.se/om-slu/kontakta-slu/personuppgifter/>
> E-mailing SLU will result in SLU processing your personal data. For more
> information on how this is done, click here <
> https://www.slu.se/en/about-slu/contact-slu/personal-data/>
>

Re: [M100] Using a US DVI unit in the UK

[james . zeun]

As far as I’m aware, from what Jim has told me. This is a perfectly working 
unit, it just needs a power supply.

At the moment I’ve no means of powering up the DVI, until I come up with a 
solution. YES i could you one of those in the wall, adapters. But me being me, 
I have to be difficult and go for a harder option. If all else fails, I buy a 
small ABS enclosure and house the step down in there, if fitting it inside 
isn’t an option.

Oh btw, according to the service manual the DVI requires about 60w. Some of the 
step down adapters I’ve seen are only 45w, so not any good. While I admit to 
knowing bugger all about the more in-depth side of power supplies. My common 
sense is telling me to buy a step down transformer with an output of 100w, to 
allow for a little wiggle room.



Sent from my iPad

> On 16 Feb 2020, at 11:13 am, B4 Me100  wrote:
> 
> With such a cheap transformer in the DVI the 50Hz should not really
> produce much of an impact, the output voltage might be down slightly but I
> doubt the internal transformer is that well tuned to 60Hz. I would be more
> worried about failure of parts due to their age, especially the caps.
> 
>> On 16/2/20, 10:57 AM, "M100 on behalf of Jonathan Yuen"
>> 
>> wrote:
>> 
>> Theoretically, transformers and motors made to run at 60Hz may overheat
>> at 50Hz.  I actually asked Steve Ciarcia's Circuit Cellar (who remembers
>> that?) about this and got a fairly good answer.  I had a Hammarlund Super
>> Pro receiver once upon a time (US Signal Corps surplus) with a
>> transformer that was good down to 25Hz and the power supply weighed a lot
>> becasue of the steel in the transformer.
>> 
>> In actual practice this has never happened to me, and I've migrated to
>> the 50Hz world from the US.  I even run a Sears table saw with its 60Hz
>> motor on 50Hz (OK, it turns a bit slower) and figured I would just buy a
>> new motor (maybe even 3 phase) when it burned out.  Hasn't happened yet.
>> 
>> Jonathan
> 
> 

Re: [M100] Using a US DVI unit in the UK

[james . zeun]

Thanks guys

I might give this a try, I’ve not taken the lid off my DVI yet (wasn’t any call 
to) but I was kind of hoping I could do all this inside the unit, fit the step 
down transformer inside the case. Just to keep things neat and tidy. 

On the subject of motors, the floppy drives should still operate as normal? 
With Jonathan mentioning his table saw, it got me wondering.




Sent from my iPad

> On 16 Feb 2020, at 10:57 am, Jonathan Yuen  wrote:
> 
> Theoretically, transformers and motors made to run at 60Hz may overheat at 
> 50Hz.  I actually asked Steve Ciarcia's Circuit Cellar (who remembers that?) 
> about this and got a fairly good answer.  I had a Hammarlund Super Pro 
> receiver once upon a time (US Signal Corps surplus) with a transformer that 
> was good down to 25Hz and the power supply weighed a lot becasue of the steel 
> in the transformer.
> 
> In actual practice this has never happened to me, and I've migrated to the 
> 50Hz world from the US.  I even run a Sears table saw with its 60Hz motor on 
> 50Hz (OK, it turns a bit slower) and figured I would just buy a new motor 
> (maybe even 3 phase) when it burned out.  Hasn't happened yet.
> 
> Jonathan
> 
> 
> Från: M100 [m100-boun...@lists.bitchin100.com] för B4 Me100 
> [b4me...@hotmail.com]
> Skickat: den 16 februari 2020 11:35
> Till: m...@bitchin100.com
> Ämne: Re: [M100] Using a US DVI unit in the UK
> 
> It should not,  the changes made to use European voltages appear to be 
> limited to the power supply area.  There is a built in clock circuit that 
> does not depend on the frequency of the supply.
> 
> From: M100 
> mailto:m100-boun...@lists.bitchin100.com>> 
> on behalf of mailto:james.z...@gmail.com>>
> Reply-To: mailto:m...@bitchin100.com>>
> Date: Sunday, February 16, 2020 at 10:02 AM
> To: mailto:m...@bitchin100.com>>
> Subject: Re: [M100] Using a US DVI unit in the UK
> 
> Would it effect the 50 / 60 hz frequency issue?
> 
> 
> 
> Sent from my iPad
> 
> On 16 Feb 2020, at 6:38 am, B4 Me100 
> mailto:b4me...@hotmail.com>> wrote:
> 
> 
> That should work.  Although I would probably enclose it to prevent 
> accidentally touching the 240/110V.
> 
> From: M100 
> mailto:m100-boun...@lists.bitchin100.com>> 
> on behalf of James Zeun mailto:james.z...@gmail.com>>
> Reply-To: mailto:m...@bitchin100.com>>
> Date: Sunday, February 16, 2020 at 1:03 AM
> To: mailto:m...@bitchin100.com>>
> Subject: Re: [M100] Using a US DVI unit in the UK
> 
> I know little about power supplies, but I saw this and wondered if it 
> wouldn't be any use for my situation.
> https://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/MV-100-P1S1-Multi-Voltage-240V-to-110V-Transformer-100VA/332172908312?hash=item4d570c5718:g:GEEAAOSwb7ddLEFV<https://nam04.safelinks.protection.outlook.com/?url=https%3A%2F%2Fwww.ebay.co.uk%2Fitm%2FMV-100-P1S1-Multi-Voltage-240V-to-110V-Transformer-100VA%2F332172908312%3Fhash%3Ditem4d570c5718%3Ag%3AGEEAAOSwb7ddLEFV=02%7C01%7C%7C789357eab34f4e279a7408d7b2c757bf%7C84df9e7fe9f640afb435%7C1%7C0%7C637174441542688474=qhv0OtQjOo3DGUoPmJNVwrSwKVYX6Vkh2miUsKG%2B50Y%3D=0>
> Taking a 240V input and converting it to a more acceptable 110v for the DVI.
> ---
> När du skickar e-post till SLU så innebär detta att SLU behandlar dina 
> personuppgifter. För att läsa mer om hur detta går till, klicka här 
> <https://www.slu.se/om-slu/kontakta-slu/personuppgifter/>
> E-mailing SLU will result in SLU processing your personal data. For more 
> information on how this is done, click here 
> <https://www.slu.se/en/about-slu/contact-slu/personal-data/>

Re: [M100] Using a US DVI unit in the UK

[james . zeun]

Would it effect the 50 / 60 hz frequency issue? 



Sent from my iPad

> On 16 Feb 2020, at 6:38 am, B4 Me100  wrote:
> 
> 
> That should work.  Although I would probably enclose it to prevent 
> accidentally touching the 240/110V.
> 
> From: M100  on behalf of James Zeun 
> 
> Reply-To: 
> Date: Sunday, February 16, 2020 at 1:03 AM
> To: 
> Subject: Re: [M100] Using a US DVI unit in the UK
> 
> I know little about power supplies, but I saw this and wondered if it 
> wouldn't be any use for my situation. 
> https://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/MV-100-P1S1-Multi-Voltage-240V-to-110V-Transformer-100VA/332172908312?hash=item4d570c5718:g:GEEAAOSwb7ddLEFV
> Taking a 240V input and converting it to a more acceptable 110v for the DVI.

Re: [M100] Using a US DVI unit in the UK

[James Zeun]

I know little about power supplies, but I saw this and wondered if it
wouldn't be any use for my situation.
https://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/MV-100-P1S1-Multi-Voltage-240V-to-110V-Transformer-100VA/332172908312?hash=item4d570c5718:g:GEEAAOSwb7ddLEFV
Taking a 240V input and converting it to a more acceptable 110v for the DVI.


On Sun, 16 Feb 2020 at 00:28, James Zeun  wrote:

> It's the first time I've use a device needing a different voltage, I'm
> just looking online, from the looks of it I need a step down transformer.
> Just looking to see if I can find something that might go inside the DVI.
>
> On Sat, 15 Feb 2020 at 23:56, James Zeun  wrote:
>
>> Yeah after scrolling down to the parts section, it lists two different
>> transformers. I think I initially was wondering how hard it might be to
>> convert the unit to UK region. I'd have to track down every part on the
>> list and then hope that was all that was needed. An auto transformer would
>> probably work out much simpler and less hassle.
>>
>> On Sat, 15 Feb 2020 at 23:44, B4 Me100  wrote:
>>
>>> You will need a 240VAC to 110VAC autotransformer to run the DVI.
>>>
>>> Probably an adapter for the TV too, need to convert the composite output
>>> to UK standards.   Unless you have a universal input monitor to use.
>>>
>>> The units are regionally specific.
>>>
>>> From: M100  on behalf of James Zeun <
>>> james.z...@gmail.com>
>>> Reply-To: 
>>> Date: Saturday, February 15, 2020 at 11:38 PM
>>> To: 
>>> Subject: [M100] Using a US DVI unit in the UK
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> Hey guys
>>>
>>> I've just to receipt of my very own disk video interface and i can't
>>> wait to try it out. However I'd like to ask for some advice. Does the DVI
>>> need a US to UK adapter or will it operate with 240v?
>>>
>>> Reading the service manual it lists 120v, 220v and 240v as operating
>>> voltages on page 1-4. I would have thought this would only be possible with
>>> the appropriate power supply fitted. However I'm by now means an authority
>>> on the subject and wanted to ask for advice.
>>>
>>>
>>> Many thanks
>>> James
>>>
>>>
>>> --
>>> My retro tech blog and general ramblings
>>> http://bytemyvdu.wordpress.com/
>>> <https://nam11.safelinks.protection.outlook.com/?url=http%3A%2F%2Fbytemyvdu.wordpress.com%2F=02%7C01%7C%7C14526608852e42b622a508d7b26fc990%7C84df9e7fe9f640afb435%7C1%7C0%7C637174065493170981=Ehdnr62lh34bVSyvdgSauyKHrb1UYpEBd4bfehGKyzo%3D=0>
>>>
>>>
>>
>> --
>> My retro tech blog and general ramblings
>> http://bytemyvdu.wordpress.com/
>>
>
>
> --
> My retro tech blog and general ramblings
> http://bytemyvdu.wordpress.com/
>


-- 
My retro tech blog and general ramblings
http://bytemyvdu.wordpress.com/

Re: [M100] Using a US DVI unit in the UK

[James Zeun]

It's the first time I've use a device needing a different voltage, I'm just
looking online, from the looks of it I need a step down transformer. Just
looking to see if I can find something that might go inside the DVI.

On Sat, 15 Feb 2020 at 23:56, James Zeun  wrote:

> Yeah after scrolling down to the parts section, it lists two different
> transformers. I think I initially was wondering how hard it might be to
> convert the unit to UK region. I'd have to track down every part on the
> list and then hope that was all that was needed. An auto transformer would
> probably work out much simpler and less hassle.
>
> On Sat, 15 Feb 2020 at 23:44, B4 Me100  wrote:
>
>> You will need a 240VAC to 110VAC autotransformer to run the DVI.
>>
>> Probably an adapter for the TV too, need to convert the composite output
>> to UK standards.   Unless you have a universal input monitor to use.
>>
>> The units are regionally specific.
>>
>> From: M100  on behalf of James Zeun <
>> james.z...@gmail.com>
>> Reply-To: 
>> Date: Saturday, February 15, 2020 at 11:38 PM
>> To: 
>> Subject: [M100] Using a US DVI unit in the UK
>>
>>
>>
>> Hey guys
>>
>> I've just to receipt of my very own disk video interface and i can't wait
>> to try it out. However I'd like to ask for some advice. Does the DVI need a
>> US to UK adapter or will it operate with 240v?
>>
>> Reading the service manual it lists 120v, 220v and 240v as operating
>> voltages on page 1-4. I would have thought this would only be possible with
>> the appropriate power supply fitted. However I'm by now means an authority
>> on the subject and wanted to ask for advice.
>>
>>
>> Many thanks
>> James
>>
>>
>> --
>> My retro tech blog and general ramblings
>> http://bytemyvdu.wordpress.com/
>> <https://nam11.safelinks.protection.outlook.com/?url=http%3A%2F%2Fbytemyvdu.wordpress.com%2F=02%7C01%7C%7C14526608852e42b622a508d7b26fc990%7C84df9e7fe9f640afb435%7C1%7C0%7C637174065493170981=Ehdnr62lh34bVSyvdgSauyKHrb1UYpEBd4bfehGKyzo%3D=0>
>>
>>
>
> --
> My retro tech blog and general ramblings
> http://bytemyvdu.wordpress.com/
>


-- 
My retro tech blog and general ramblings
http://bytemyvdu.wordpress.com/

Re: [M100] Using a US DVI unit in the UK

[James Zeun]

Yeah after scrolling down to the parts section, it lists two different
transformers. I think I initially was wondering how hard it might be to
convert the unit to UK region. I'd have to track down every part on the
list and then hope that was all that was needed. An auto transformer would
probably work out much simpler and less hassle.

On Sat, 15 Feb 2020 at 23:44, B4 Me100  wrote:

> You will need a 240VAC to 110VAC autotransformer to run the DVI.
>
> Probably an adapter for the TV too, need to convert the composite output
> to UK standards.   Unless you have a universal input monitor to use.
>
> The units are regionally specific.
>
> From: M100  on behalf of James Zeun <
> james.z...@gmail.com>
> Reply-To: 
> Date: Saturday, February 15, 2020 at 11:38 PM
> To: 
> Subject: [M100] Using a US DVI unit in the UK
>
>
>
> Hey guys
>
> I've just to receipt of my very own disk video interface and i can't wait
> to try it out. However I'd like to ask for some advice. Does the DVI need a
> US to UK adapter or will it operate with 240v?
>
> Reading the service manual it lists 120v, 220v and 240v as operating
> voltages on page 1-4. I would have thought this would only be possible with
> the appropriate power supply fitted. However I'm by now means an authority
> on the subject and wanted to ask for advice.
>
>
> Many thanks
> James
>
>
> --
> My retro tech blog and general ramblings
> http://bytemyvdu.wordpress.com/
> <https://nam11.safelinks.protection.outlook.com/?url=http%3A%2F%2Fbytemyvdu.wordpress.com%2F=02%7C01%7C%7C14526608852e42b622a508d7b26fc990%7C84df9e7fe9f640afb435%7C1%7C0%7C637174065493170981=Ehdnr62lh34bVSyvdgSauyKHrb1UYpEBd4bfehGKyzo%3D=0>
>
>

-- 
My retro tech blog and general ramblings
http://bytemyvdu.wordpress.com/

[M100] Using a US DVI unit in the UK

[James Zeun]

Hey guys

I've just to receipt of my very own disk video interface and i can't wait
to try it out. However I'd like to ask for some advice. Does the DVI need a
US to UK adapter or will it operate with 240v?

Reading the service manual it lists 120v, 220v and 240v as operating
voltages on page 1-4. I would have thought this would only be possible with
the appropriate power supply fitted. However I'm by now means an authority
on the subject and wanted to ask for advice.


Many thanks
James


-- 
My retro tech blog and general ramblings
http://bytemyvdu.wordpress.com/

[M100] DVI alternatives

[James Zeun]

As I'm going to become a DVi owner, I thought I'd pose this question.

Are there other methods of outputting to a monitor with my M100?

[M100] M100 language Lab

[James Zeun]

Hey guys

Are copies of the M100 language Lab book easy to come by?

Found it on the archive and I'm trying to decide if it would be easier to
just print it out myself.  Though personally, I would prefer an original.

Thought I'd ask :-)

James

[M100] Mikrokolor ?

[James Zeun]

I was just reading the wiki about this device. Has anyone seen one of these
in the wild? I couldn't seem to find any actual photos.

Re: [M100] Club100: Can I help?

[James Zeun]

I'll have to look at the Wiki, would be happy to contribute where I can. I
don't mind watching YouTube, but I feel there are plenty of people on there
without adding my voice. Besides I prefer contributing to the written word,
while attention spans seem ever bent on shrinking to that of a gold fish
;-P



On Wed, 22 Jan 2020, 10:42 pm John R. Hogerhuis,  wrote:

> As long as you're having fun with it, and sometimes sharing the fun with
> the rest of us, I'd say you're doing your part as a member of the community.
>
> These days youtube is a great way to share the hobby. If you do something
> tricky or interesting you could try your hand at that.
>
> We always need more documentation. As I say from time to time, those that
> wish to assist or edit docs at https://bitchin100.com/wiki just have to
> send me a email address and a request to create you an account. I don't
> allow self sign up because of past instances where the site was overrun
> with spam.
>
> -- John.
>

Re: [M100] Club100: Can I help?

[James Zeun]

Well said, likewise I'm hoping to cover more in Model 100 material on my
blog. If for nothing else than to keep a record of my activities and maybe
get others interested in this great computer.

James

On Wed, 22 Jan 2020, 9:29 pm Charles Hudson,  wrote:

> In December of 2018 I got my first M100, which was my first TRS-anything.
> I remember I posted on VCFED asking for advice on how to care and feed the
> little monster.  I remember Mike Stein pointing me to Club100 and to
> Bitchin100.  I remember all the help and advice you people have given me
> along the way.
>
> I had occasion to visit Club100 today and was impressed (again), this time
> with the fact that so many of this community have devoted part of their
> lives to keeping Rick Hanson's legacy alive.  Thanks especially to Ken
> Pettit and John Hogerhuis who appear to have done the heavy lifting, thanks
> to LizardHill for hosting the site, and I could go on but you get the
> point: this is exceptional.
>
> So let me offer to help; let me repay my debt to those who have
> contributed to the legacy from which I have profited.  Let me know what I
> can do.  (I'm good at flying leaps...)
>
> -CH-
>
>
>
>
>

Re: [M100] Request for info on RS DV Interface

[james . zeun]

That would be an option, but I think I’d be happier doing something internal. 
Swapping the PSU shouldn’t be to hard. Only I wasn’t thinking about swapping 
components to make to psu z240v compatible.

However I’m certain open to trying 


Sent from my iPad

> On 19 Jan 2020, at 4:42 pm, Fugu ME100  wrote:
> 
> 
> Probably the easiest and safest :) method is to use an Auto-transformer to 
> step down the UK 240V to the US 120V.  They should be available with a UK 
> plug on one side and a US socket on the other you can then simply plug in the 
> DVI unit without touching any live 240V mains - they are generally packaged 
> for immediate use no need to wire up.  The DVI unit takes 66W (according to 
> the manual) just make sure the Auto–transformer is capable of supplying more 
> than that I would look for something  >100W.  The only issue is that the 120V 
> will be at 50Hz and not 60Hz which will make the internal DVI transformer 
> less efficient but it should be OK.  
> 
> https://uk.rs-online.com/web/p/autotransformers/3101156/ this one might be a 
> good option to look at, there are quite a few others, the higher VA the 
> better - depends on your budget.
> 
> The other issue will be the composite video output might/will need an adapter 
> too in order to convert it to the UK PAL standard, it will be NTSC Composite 
> output in the US version.  They are available on the well known online 
> auction sites or other online retailers.  Some of them claim to convert to 
> HDMI although not sure how good the quality will be from those units.   If 
> you have a composite video monitor that should produce the best results.  
> 
> From: M100  on behalf of 
> 
> Reply-To: 
> Date: Sunday, January 19, 2020 at 6:32 AM
> To: 
> Subject: Re: [M100] Request for info on RS DV Interface
> 
> I’ve never done anything like that, so if anyone can give a little hand 
> holding, then sure!
> 
> I’m fine soldering, it’s just I haven’t played around with power supplies. 
> Once zapped myself with 240v mains while working on a Macintosh Plus, once 
> was quite enough. Sitting in a house In the dark, because the fuse box was 
> tripped, with my arm killing me., ah the memories :-P
> 
> 
>> 

Re: [M100] Request for info on RS DV Interface

[james . zeun]

I’ve never done anything like that, so if anyone can give a little hand 
holding, then sure!

I’m fine soldering, it’s just I haven’t played around with power supplies. Once 
zapped myself with 240v mains while working on a Macintosh Plus, once was quite 
enough. Sitting in a house In the dark, because the fuse box was tripped, with 
my arm killing me., ah the memories :-P


Sent from my iPad

> On 19 Jan 2020, at 1:22 am, Fugu ME100  wrote:
> 
> 
> If you wanted to retain the look/feel you could replace the 120V step down 
> transformer wth a 240V step down.  The DVI Service manual does not mention 
> the step down voltage but it might be on the transformer.  You would also 
> have to replace the AC wiring, switch and fuse holder with 240V rated cables, 
> as well as the fuse.  From the service manual that is all R/S swapped when 
> producing the UK version (apart from the RF modulator for the TV of course :) 
> ).  The power supply board is the same – or at least it appears to be from 
> the parts list.  
> 
> 
> The service manual is on http://www.classiccmp.org/cini/systems.htm in the 
> M100 section.
> 
> From: M100  on behalf of Mike Stein 
> 
> Reply-To: 
> Date: Saturday, January 18, 2020 at 3:55 PM
> To: 
> Subject: Re: [M100] Request for info on RS DV Interface
> 
> Looks like a garden variety linear 12 and 5 V supply; a 3 Amp each switcher 
> should be able to replace it.
> - Original Message -
> From: James Zeun
> To: m...@bitchin100.com
> Sent: Saturday, January 18, 2020 6:22 PM
> Subject: Re: [M100] Request for info on RS DV Interface
> 
> 
> 
> If I didn't want to use a step down. Would it take much to replace the 
> internal PSU with something else? 
> 

Re: [M100] Request for info on RS DV Interface

[james . zeun]

Thanks for that, I’ve been trying to find the service manual but had no luck.

I think if and when I get my DV unit, I’ll swap the PSU out to make it UK 
friendly.  Maybe use a mini ATX PSU or perhaps on of these.

https://rover.ebay.com/rover/0/0/0?mpre=https%3A%2F%2Fwww.ebay.co.uk%2Fulk%2Fitm%2F123997553994

It sadly doesn’t mention the amperage, but ATX is meant to carry 5A maximum 
load.


Sent from my iPad

> On 18 Jan 2020, at 11:55 pm, Mike Stein  wrote:
> 
> 
> Looks like a garden variety linear 12 and 5 V supply; a 3 Amp each switcher 
> should be able to replace it.
> - Original Message -----
> From: James Zeun
> To: m...@bitchin100.com
> Sent: Saturday, January 18, 2020 6:22 PM
> Subject: Re: [M100] Request for info on RS DV Interface
> 
> 
> 
> If I didn't want to use a step down. Would it take much to replace the 
> internal PSU with something else? 
> 
> Someone will have to educate me on the inner workings as I dont know anything 
> about the inside of a DV interface.
> 
> Surely it doesn't actually need 1000w??? That seems just a bit excessive.
> 
> On Sat, 18 Jan 2020, 10:30 pm Gary Hammond,  wrote:
>> I ended up buying a stepdown transformer for mine. If you get a US 
>> powerboard to plug into the transformer, you can also use the US plug packs 
>> plus I have a US printer that I plug into the transformer as well. It's a 
>> beefy 1000W transformer so can handle the load. You shouldn't need something 
>> this big if you are powering just the DVI.
>> 
>> 
>> -Original Message-
>> From: M100  On Behalf Of james
>> Sent: Sunday, 19 January 2020 11:08 AM
>> To: m...@bitchin100.com
>> Subject: Re: [M100] Request for info on RS DV Interface
>> 
>> Hey everyone
>> 
>> 
>> I have a DV related question
>> 
>> 
>> It's now looking like I might very well be getting my own, however as the 
>> unit is coming from the States and I live in England. It raises the question 
>> of power, we use 240v here and I was wondering if i'm going to need to 
>> modify the unit or buy some sort of step down.
>> 
>> Cheers
>> James
>> 

Re: [M100] Request for info on RS DV Interface

[James Zeun]

If I didn't want to use a step down. Would it take much to replace the
internal PSU with something else?

Someone will have to educate me on the inner workings as I dont know
anything about the inside of a DV interface.

Surely it doesn't actually need 1000w??? That seems just a bit excessive.

On Sat, 18 Jan 2020, 10:30 pm Gary Hammond,  wrote:

> I ended up buying a stepdown transformer for mine. If you get a US
> powerboard to plug into the transformer, you can also use the US plug packs
> plus I have a US printer that I plug into the transformer as well. It's a
> beefy 1000W transformer so can handle the load. You shouldn't need
> something this big if you are powering just the DVI.
>
>
> -Original Message-
> From: M100  On Behalf Of james
> Sent: Sunday, 19 January 2020 11:08 AM
> To: m...@bitchin100.com
> Subject: Re: [M100] Request for info on RS DV Interface
>
> Hey everyone
>
>
> I have a DV related question
>
>
> It's now looking like I might very well be getting my own, however as the
> unit is coming from the States and I live in England. It raises the
> question of power, we use 240v here and I was wondering if i'm going to
> need to modify the unit or buy some sort of step down.
>
> Cheers
> James
>
>

Re: [M100] Request for info on RS DV Interface

[James Zeun]

So many BASICS so little time!!!

On Sat, 18 Jan 2020, 10:55 am Charles Hudson,  wrote:

> Thanks to Mike, James, Gregory and Jim for your responses.  I found a copy
> of the manual and learned that there is an OS disk required for startup.  I
> didn't realize there were two different cables, one for the 100 and one for
> the 102.  I was hoping it might be a standard cable, but I guess I'll be
> shopping at the Arcade, Gregory.
>
> Yes, there is an RF interface as well as a composite, but I hate RF.  I
> have a Commodore 1702 monitor that accepts a composite feed and I think
> that will work with this setup.
>
> James Z., the manual describes the disk-BASIC used with this device as a
> superset of M100 BASIC.  I also read - on Wikipedia - that the TRS-80 Model
> 3 BASIC is different from that used in the Model 4.  So that's four
> different "flavors" of BASIC within the product line of just one
> manufacturer.  Can't assume all BASICs are the same.
>
> Jim, one man's "Trash-80" is another man's treasure.  Good luck with your
> sale.
>
> Mike, thanks for your good wishes, guidance and contributions to the
> community.
>
> -CH-
>

Re: [M100] Request for info on RS DV Interface

[James Zeun]

Always wanted to have a DVI, just never seem to come up on eBay over here.

Sent from my iPad

> On 17 Jan 2020, at 10:54 pm, Gregory McGill  wrote:
> 
> http://ftp.whtech.com/club100/doc/dvi.pdf 
> 
> It works with the 100, 102 and 200, it provides a video screen (composite 
> out) and disk drive, it requires specific os to be loaded off disk then it 
> uploads a patched basic (basically) to use the display 
> 
> I have disks, cables etc here 
> https://www.arcadeshopper.com/wp/?page_id=11#!/100-102-200/c/28313042/offset=0=nameAsc
>  
> 
> Greg 
> 
>> On Fri, Jan 17, 2020 at 2:38 PM Charles Hudson  wrote:
>> I just acquired a Radio Shack disk video interface; I haven't plugged it in 
>> yet and it came with no documentation.  It does have a port on the bottom - 
>> looks like a ribbon cable - and a couple of RCA jacks on the back, so there 
>> is a way in and a way out, but I don' know what it was designed to interface 
>> with.  Maybe the M100?
>> 
>> I think however that some of the community have these in their collection.  
>> I'd appreciate any guidance you can give me.  Specs?  Manual?  Thanks for 
>> your replies.
>> 
>> -CH-

Re: [M100] Books on programming

[James Zeun]

Thanks for that John

Could I ask then, does that apply to the rest of the TRS-80 range of
computers? I mean, aside from not taking advantage of the M100s graphics
abilities, could code from books focusing on these systems still be
perfectly fine to work on my M100?

On Tue, 14 Jan 2020 at 19:41, John R. Hogerhuis  wrote:

> They're both Microsoft extended basics so they're similar but they are not
> the same version and are not compatible in either direction.
>
> -- John.
>


-- 
My retro tech blog and general ramblings
http://bytemyvdu.wordpress.com/

Re: [M100] Books on programming

[James Zeun]

I'm certain I've read a couple of times, that programs for the TRS-80
colour computer work on the M100.

I'm guessing they share the same version of BASIC.



On Tue, 14 Jan 2020, 7:00 am Ariel Millennium Thornton, <
arie...@thornton2.com> wrote:

> Hi, folks!  Long-time lurker and 100 owner popping up.
>
> It's on pages 169 and 170 of the owner's manual, in Chapter 16 (BASIC
> Keywords), in the descriptions of the PRINT, PRINT #, and PRINT USING
> commands.
>
> In the PRINT USING command description, the field specifier that
> inserts a blank for positive numbers' signs is the "-" character.
>
>
> (Unrelated, my copy contains an error right above that, in the "+" field
> specifier description:  It gives
>
> PRINT USING "#-";14
>14
>
> instead of
>
> PRINT USING "#+";14
>14+
>
> as the end-of-number example.  What's in the manual is technically
> correct but probably not what they meant.)
>
> ~ArielMT
>
>
> On Mon, 13 Jan 2020 16:59:41 -0800, Peter Vollan wrote:
>
> > This is explained in the Model 100 user manual, although now I cannot
> > remember where, and turns up in other early Microsoft products. Where
> > negative numbers have a dash, positive numbers have a space, and this
> > needs to be taken into account if you have occaision to turn a number
> > string into a mathematical value.
> >
> > On Mon, 13 Jan 2020 at 16:02, James Zeun  wrote:
> > >
> > > So this evening
> > >
> > > I was reading one of my programming books.
> > >
> > >
> https://drive.google.com/file/d/0Bxv0SsvibDMTUzdWckVpSUlIb0E/view?usp=drivesdk
> > >
> > >
> > > I'm not far in (page 5) and already something has pop up that
> > > didn't work as expected.
> > >
> > > PRINT "TOTAL=";2*17
> > > TOTAL=34
> > >
> > > On my M100
> > >
> > > TOTAL= 34
> > >
> > > The M100 inserts a space after the equal sign. When according to
> > > the book a semi colon should leave no space.
> > >
> > >
> > > -James
> > >
> > >
> > > On Thu, 9 Jan 2020, 10:31 pm Peter Vollan, 
> > > wrote:
> > >>
> > >> I know that there is a program called D20 for dice rolling. Does
> > >> anyone out there know where it is???
> > >>
> > >> On Thu, 9 Jan 2020 at 14:19, James  wrote:
> > >> >
> > >> > Peter sorry it took me a while to answer this, but here goes
> > >> >
> > >> > At present we are playing a 5th edition game, have been for
> > >> > about a year. I keep having to replace my character sheet and
> > >> > did wonder if I couldn't program something on my M100. Like an
> > >> > electronic 5e character sheet. Presently I don't have a clue how
> > >> > such a thing could be achieved, but I do have an idea of how it
> > >> > might work.
> > >> >
> > >> > A primary screen showing character stats and a second page for
> > >> > inventory. Perhaps toggling between the two using the tab key.
> > >> >
> > >> > I myself have been reading up on D Basic, as found in the
> > >> > Cyclopedia TSR 1071. I own the 1070 boxset which as i understand
> > >> > it was when TSR combined Basic, Expert, Companion and Master all
> > >> > in to one.
> > >> >
> > >> > If I can make a set of DnD tools would i use my M100 to manage
> > >> > my DnD games? You're damn right I would!
> > >> >
> > >> >
> > >> > On 08/01/2020 1:56, Peter Vollan wrote:
> > >> > > What edition do you use?
> > >> > >
> > >> > > On Tue, 7 Jan 2020 at 17:06, James Zeun 
> > >> > > wrote:
> > >> > >> Great, I'll have to check that out!
> > >> > >>
> > >> > >> I'm currently checking out all the books that have been
> > >> > >> suggested to me.
> > >> > >>
> > >> > >> Really difficult to find physically books.
> > >> > >>
> > >> > >>
> > >> > >> On Wed, 8 Jan 2020, 1:03 am C. Magaret, 
> > >> > >> wrote:
> > >> > >>> "Dragon" was about role-playing games, primarily D
> > >> > >>>
> > >> > >>> /CAM
> > >

Re: [M100] Books on programming

[James Zeun]

Well at least the program did work, so it means I can go further with my
book.

:-)

On Tue, 14 Jan 2020, 1:00 am Peter Vollan,  wrote:

> This is explained in the Model 100 user manual, although now I cannot
> remember where, and turns up in other early Microsoft products. Where
> negative numbers have a dash, positive numbers have a space, and this
> needs to be taken into account if you have occaision to turn a number
> string into a mathematical value.
>
> On Mon, 13 Jan 2020 at 16:02, James Zeun  wrote:
> >
> > So this evening
> >
> > I was reading one of my programming books.
> >
> >
> https://drive.google.com/file/d/0Bxv0SsvibDMTUzdWckVpSUlIb0E/view?usp=drivesdk
> >
> >
> > I'm not far in (page 5) and already something has pop up that didn't
> work as expected.
> >
> > PRINT "TOTAL=";2*17
> > TOTAL=34
> >
> > On my M100
> >
> > TOTAL= 34
> >
> > The M100 inserts a space after the equal sign. When according to the
> book a semi colon should leave no space.
> >
> >
> > -James
> >
> >
> > On Thu, 9 Jan 2020, 10:31 pm Peter Vollan,  wrote:
> >>
> >> I know that there is a program called D20 for dice rolling. Does
> >> anyone out there know where it is???
> >>
> >> On Thu, 9 Jan 2020 at 14:19, James  wrote:
> >> >
> >> > Peter sorry it took me a while to answer this, but here goes
> >> >
> >> > At present we are playing a 5th edition game, have been for about a
> >> > year. I keep having to replace my character sheet and did wonder if I
> >> > couldn't program something on my M100. Like an electronic 5e character
> >> > sheet. Presently I don't have a clue how such a thing could be
> achieved,
> >> > but I do have an idea of how it might work.
> >> >
> >> > A primary screen showing character stats and a second page for
> >> > inventory. Perhaps toggling between the two using the tab key.
> >> >
> >> > I myself have been reading up on D Basic, as found in the Cyclopedia
> >> > TSR 1071. I own the 1070 boxset which as i understand it was when TSR
> >> > combined Basic, Expert, Companion and Master all in to one.
> >> >
> >> > If I can make a set of DnD tools would i use my M100 to manage my DnD
> >> > games? You're damn right I would!
> >> >
> >> >
> >> > On 08/01/2020 1:56, Peter Vollan wrote:
> >> > > What edition do you use?
> >> > >
> >> > > On Tue, 7 Jan 2020 at 17:06, James Zeun 
> wrote:
> >> > >> Great, I'll have to check that out!
> >> > >>
> >> > >> I'm currently checking out all the books that have been suggested
> to me.
> >> > >>
> >> > >> Really difficult to find physically books.
> >> > >>
> >> > >>
> >> > >> On Wed, 8 Jan 2020, 1:03 am C. Magaret,  wrote:
> >> > >>> "Dragon" was about role-playing games, primarily D
> >> > >>>
> >> > >>> /CAM
> >> > >>>
> >> > >>>
> >> > >>>
> >> > >>>> On Jan 7, 2020, at 16:48, James Zeun 
> wrote:
> >> > >>>>
> >> > >>>> Was the Dragon Magazine a computer mag or a magazine about
> roleplaying?
> >> > >>>>
> >> > >>>> On Wed, 8 Jan 2020, 12:30 am Peter Vollan, 
> wrote:
> >> > >>>> Dragon.
> >> > >>>>
> >> > >>>> On Tue, 7 Jan 2020 at 15:52, James Zeun 
> wrote:
> >> > >>>>> Is that the one from the dungeon magazine?
> >> > >>>>>
> >> > >>>>> On Tue, 7 Jan 2020, 11:34 pm Peter Vollan, <
> dprogra...@gmail.com> wrote:
> >> > >>>>>> I have just about got the Dungeon Master's Personnel Service
> debugged
> >> > >>>>>> and working on Virtual T.
> >> > >>>>>>
> >> > >>>>>> On Tue, 7 Jan 2020 at 14:14, Britt Dodd 
> wrote:
> >> > >>>>>>> I’ve read the M100 manual and it did have some examples on
> there, but the majority of it was more a glossary of statements.
> >> > >>>>>>>
> >> > >>>>>>> Sent from my iPhone
> >> > >>>

Re: [M100] Books on programming

[James Zeun]

PRINT USING

being the actual command?

I should point out I am just starting out programming on my M100.

So *Says in a pirate voice"
This be uncharted waters..

:-P




On Tue, 14 Jan 2020, 12:12 am Mike Stein,  wrote:

> It's not the semicolon leaving the space; positive numbers leave a space
> in front to allow for a possible minus sign.
>
> If PRINT USING doesn't do what you want you could convert it to a string
> and use MID$
>
> m
>
>
> - Original Message -
> *From:* James Zeun 
> *To:* m...@bitchin100.com
> *Sent:* Monday, January 13, 2020 7:02 PM
> *Subject:* Re: [M100] Books on programming
>
> So this evening
>
> I was reading one of my programming books.
>
>
> https://drive.google.com/file/d/0Bxv0SsvibDMTUzdWckVpSUlIb0E/view?usp=drivesdk
>
>
> I'm not far in (page 5) and already something has pop up that didn't work
> as expected.
>
> PRINT "TOTAL=";2*17
> TOTAL=34
>
> On my M100
>
> TOTAL= 34
>
> The M100 inserts a space after the equal sign. When according to the book
> a semi colon should leave no space.
>
>
> -James
>
>
> On Thu, 9 Jan 2020, 10:31 pm Peter Vollan,  wrote:
>
>> I know that there is a program called D20 for dice rolling. Does
>> anyone out there know where it is???
>>
>> On Thu, 9 Jan 2020 at 14:19, James  wrote:
>> >
>> > Peter sorry it took me a while to answer this, but here goes
>> >
>> > At present we are playing a 5th edition game, have been for about a
>> > year. I keep having to replace my character sheet and did wonder if I
>> > couldn't program something on my M100. Like an electronic 5e character
>> > sheet. Presently I don't have a clue how such a thing could be achieved,
>> > but I do have an idea of how it might work.
>> >
>> > A primary screen showing character stats and a second page for
>> > inventory. Perhaps toggling between the two using the tab key.
>> >
>> > I myself have been reading up on D Basic, as found in the Cyclopedia
>> > TSR 1071. I own the 1070 boxset which as i understand it was when TSR
>> > combined Basic, Expert, Companion and Master all in to one.
>> >
>> > If I can make a set of DnD tools would i use my M100 to manage my DnD
>> > games? You're damn right I would!
>> >
>> >
>> > On 08/01/2020 1:56, Peter Vollan wrote:
>> > > What edition do you use?
>> > >
>> > > On Tue, 7 Jan 2020 at 17:06, James Zeun  wrote:
>> > >> Great, I'll have to check that out!
>> > >>
>> > >> I'm currently checking out all the books that have been suggested to
>> me.
>> > >>
>> > >> Really difficult to find physically books.
>> > >>
>> > >>
>> > >> On Wed, 8 Jan 2020, 1:03 am C. Magaret,  wrote:
>> > >>> "Dragon" was about role-playing games, primarily D
>> > >>>
>> > >>> /CAM
>> > >>>
>> > >>>
>> > >>>
>> > >>>> On Jan 7, 2020, at 16:48, James Zeun  wrote:
>> > >>>>
>> > >>>> Was the Dragon Magazine a computer mag or a magazine about
>> roleplaying?
>> > >>>>
>> > >>>> On Wed, 8 Jan 2020, 12:30 am Peter Vollan, 
>> wrote:
>> > >>>> Dragon.
>> > >>>>
>> > >>>> On Tue, 7 Jan 2020 at 15:52, James Zeun 
>> wrote:
>> > >>>>> Is that the one from the dungeon magazine?
>> > >>>>>
>> > >>>>> On Tue, 7 Jan 2020, 11:34 pm Peter Vollan, 
>> wrote:
>> > >>>>>> I have just about got the Dungeon Master's Personnel Service
>> debugged
>> > >>>>>> and working on Virtual T.
>> > >>>>>>
>> > >>>>>> On Tue, 7 Jan 2020 at 14:14, Britt Dodd 
>> wrote:
>> > >>>>>>> I’ve read the M100 manual and it did have some examples on
>> there, but the majority of it was more a glossary of statements.
>> > >>>>>>>
>> > >>>>>>> Sent from my iPhone
>> > >>>>>>>
>> > >>>>>>> On Jan 7, 2020, at 5:10 PM, Dan Higdon 
>> wrote:
>> > >>>>>>>
>> > >>>>>>> 
>> > >>>>>>> The treasure horde program isn't posted anywhere. It's not
>> long, bu

Re: [M100] Books on programming

[James Zeun]

So this evening

I was reading one of my programming books.

https://drive.google.com/file/d/0Bxv0SsvibDMTUzdWckVpSUlIb0E/view?usp=drivesdk


I'm not far in (page 5) and already something has pop up that didn't work
as expected.

PRINT "TOTAL=";2*17
TOTAL=34

On my M100

TOTAL= 34

The M100 inserts a space after the equal sign. When according to the book a
semi colon should leave no space.


-James


On Thu, 9 Jan 2020, 10:31 pm Peter Vollan,  wrote:

> I know that there is a program called D20 for dice rolling. Does
> anyone out there know where it is???
>
> On Thu, 9 Jan 2020 at 14:19, James  wrote:
> >
> > Peter sorry it took me a while to answer this, but here goes
> >
> > At present we are playing a 5th edition game, have been for about a
> > year. I keep having to replace my character sheet and did wonder if I
> > couldn't program something on my M100. Like an electronic 5e character
> > sheet. Presently I don't have a clue how such a thing could be achieved,
> > but I do have an idea of how it might work.
> >
> > A primary screen showing character stats and a second page for
> > inventory. Perhaps toggling between the two using the tab key.
> >
> > I myself have been reading up on D Basic, as found in the Cyclopedia
> > TSR 1071. I own the 1070 boxset which as i understand it was when TSR
> > combined Basic, Expert, Companion and Master all in to one.
> >
> > If I can make a set of DnD tools would i use my M100 to manage my DnD
> > games? You're damn right I would!
> >
> >
> > On 08/01/2020 1:56, Peter Vollan wrote:
> > > What edition do you use?
> > >
> > > On Tue, 7 Jan 2020 at 17:06, James Zeun  wrote:
> > >> Great, I'll have to check that out!
> > >>
> > >> I'm currently checking out all the books that have been suggested to
> me.
> > >>
> > >> Really difficult to find physically books.
> > >>
> > >>
> > >> On Wed, 8 Jan 2020, 1:03 am C. Magaret,  wrote:
> > >>> "Dragon" was about role-playing games, primarily D
> > >>>
> > >>> /CAM
> > >>>
> > >>>
> > >>>
> > >>>> On Jan 7, 2020, at 16:48, James Zeun  wrote:
> > >>>>
> > >>>> Was the Dragon Magazine a computer mag or a magazine about
> roleplaying?
> > >>>>
> > >>>> On Wed, 8 Jan 2020, 12:30 am Peter Vollan, 
> wrote:
> > >>>> Dragon.
> > >>>>
> > >>>> On Tue, 7 Jan 2020 at 15:52, James Zeun 
> wrote:
> > >>>>> Is that the one from the dungeon magazine?
> > >>>>>
> > >>>>> On Tue, 7 Jan 2020, 11:34 pm Peter Vollan, 
> wrote:
> > >>>>>> I have just about got the Dungeon Master's Personnel Service
> debugged
> > >>>>>> and working on Virtual T.
> > >>>>>>
> > >>>>>> On Tue, 7 Jan 2020 at 14:14, Britt Dodd 
> wrote:
> > >>>>>>> I’ve read the M100 manual and it did have some examples on
> there, but the majority of it was more a glossary of statements.
> > >>>>>>>
> > >>>>>>> Sent from my iPhone
> > >>>>>>>
> > >>>>>>> On Jan 7, 2020, at 5:10 PM, Dan Higdon 
> wrote:
> > >>>>>>>
> > >>>>>>> 
> > >>>>>>> The treasure horde program isn't posted anywhere. It's not long,
> but I don't have a copy on this machine. When I get home, I can send it to
> the list.
> > >>>>>>>
> > >>>>>>>
> > >>>>>>>
> > >>>>>>>
> > >>>>>>> On Tue, Jan 7, 2020 at 4:00 PM Peter Vollan <
> dprogra...@gmail.com> wrote:
> > >>>>>>>> You may be interested in knowing that I have already cut that
> text out
> > >>>>>>>> of the pdf of Dragon #74 and then pasted it back together in a
> text
> > >>>>>>>> file. Better than typing it all in like the old days, yes? I
> just ran
> > >>>>>>>> it in Virtual T (Model 100) and it barfs at the command
> "randomize".
> > >>>>>>>>
> > >>>>>>>> I did the same thing with a program to generated character for
> TSR's
> > >>>>>>>> Top Secret RPG, and then adapted it for th

Re: [M100] M100 AC power supply

[james . zeun]

I have something similar to that, but was always worried I might accidentally 
plug it up one day and it be set to 12v. Mines the old sort with a slider on 
the back.

Maybe invest in one of these

Sent from my iPad

> On 11 Jan 2020, at 11:34 pm, Georg Kaeter 
>  wrote:
> 
> 
> I used a PSU like 
> https://cpc.farnell.com/ideal-power/23sw-ad12wbs/1a-multi-selectable-voltage-adapter/dp/PW04339?st=switch%20mode%20power%20supplies
>  for my M100/102 and T200 as well as replacement for the original PSU since a 
> few years w/o any issue. It allows to choose polarity just by turning the 
> output plug.
> 
> Regards
> Georg from Germany
> 
> M100 32K w/REX
> M102 32K w/REX
> T200 72K w/REX
> NADSBox
> 
> 
>  schrieb am Sa., 11. Jan. 2020, 21:50:
>> As I’m going to be using my computer a lot more in the coming months as I 
>> study BASIC. I was thinking I might need a power supply. 
>> 
>> I’m in need of a UK type PSU, I’m guessing my best bet is to make one from 
>> something else. Most of the 6 volt supplies I can find on fleabay are centre 
>> positive, so I’ll need to chop the end off and solder on a new barrel 
>> connector. Does anyone know what size the M100 takes?
>> 
>> -James
>> 
>> 
>> Sent from my iPad

Re: [M100] M100 AC power supply

[James Zeun]

3 pin plug?

On Sat, 11 Jan 2020, 10:57 pm Gregory McGill, 
wrote:

> Pretty sure the ones I have in my store are dual voltage I'll confirm when
> I get home
>
> Greg
>
> On Sat, Jan 11, 2020, 12:51 PM  wrote:
>
>> As I’m going to be using my computer a lot more in the coming months as I
>> study BASIC. I was thinking I might need a power supply.
>>
>> I’m in need of a UK type PSU, I’m guessing my best bet is to make one
>> from something else. Most of the 6 volt supplies I can find on fleabay are
>> centre positive, so I’ll need to chop the end off and solder on a new
>> barrel connector. Does anyone know what size the M100 takes?
>>
>> -James
>>
>>
>> Sent from my iPad
>
>

[M100] M100 AC power supply

[james . zeun]

As I’m going to be using my computer a lot more in the coming months as I study 
BASIC. I was thinking I might need a power supply. 

I’m in need of a UK type PSU, I’m guessing my best bet is to make one from 
something else. Most of the 6 volt supplies I can find on fleabay are centre 
positive, so I’ll need to chop the end off and solder on a new barrel 
connector. Does anyone know what size the M100 takes?

-James


Sent from my iPad

Re: [M100] Dungeon Master's Personnel Service

[James Zeun]

I bet he's wishing he'd not said anything ;-) hehe

On Wed, 8 Jan 2020, 7:17 pm John R. Hogerhuis,  wrote:

>
>
> On Tue, Jan 7, 2020 at 11:29 PM Mike Stein  wrote:
>
>> Truly BITCHIIN !!!
>>
>> Great job, John! Might as well get rid of all my 'real' M100s ;-)
>>
>> m
>>
>
> I'll PM you offline with my address :-)
>
> -- John.
>

Re: [M100] Books on programming

[James Zeun]

Oh that sounds promising, did it work or require a lot of rework?

On Wed, 8 Jan 2020, 7:10 pm Ron Lauzon,  wrote:

> Yes.  As a matter of fact, I typed in a couple of those programs into my
> M102 for fun last year.
>
> Jan 8, 2020, 12:29 by james.z...@gmail.com:
>
> Does that mean the programs in that book WOULD work on the m100?
>
>
>
>

Re: [M100] Books on programming

[James Zeun]

Sorry, I just saw your answer Jonathans.

At least they would work, that's good to know!

I would love to play about with an Altair, I do have a PiDP8, a replica of
a PDP8/I.

Never really gotten much out of it, always found the PDP / DEC crowd a very
hard bunch to talk to. Unless your 60+ and a former DEC employee that is.
Fresh faces youngsters such as myself are expected to know everything
already. Least that's how it feels. So the things on the shelf, collecting
dust.




On Wed, 8 Jan 2020, 5:29 pm James Zeun,  wrote:

> Does that mean the programs in that book WOULD work on the m100?
>
> On Wed, 8 Jan 2020, 5:26 pm Jonathan Yuen,  wrote:
>
>> Hi All,
>>
>> The Altair 8080 was a S-100 system, so the 'display capabilities' were
>> whatever terminal you had connected to it.  The Altair itself had no
>> display that I know of.  Always wanted one but I was a poor student back
>> then..
>>
>> Jonathan
>>
>> jonathan.y...@mykopat.slu.se
>> 
>> Från: M100 [m100-boun...@lists.bitchin100.com] för Ron Lauzon [
>> rlau...@tutanota.com]
>> Skickat: den 8 januari 2020 17:50
>> Till: M100
>> Ämne: Re: [M100] Books on programming
>>
>> Yes, but the games wouldn't take advantage of the display capabilities.
>>
>> Jan 8, 2020, 11:48 by james.z...@gmail.com:
>> Basic Computer Games by David H.
>>
>>
>> Would the programs in this book work ok on the M100?
>>
>> I've read it's aimed at an Altair 8080.
>>
>>
>>
>> ---
>> När du skickar e-post till SLU så innebär detta att SLU behandlar dina
>> personuppgifter. För att läsa mer om hur detta går till, klicka här <
>> https://www.slu.se/om-slu/kontakta-slu/personuppgifter/>
>> E-mailing SLU will result in SLU processing your personal data. For more
>> information on how this is done, click here <
>> https://www.slu.se/en/about-slu/contact-slu/personal-data/>
>>
>

Re: [M100] Books on programming

[James Zeun]

Does that mean the programs in that book WOULD work on the m100?

On Wed, 8 Jan 2020, 5:26 pm Jonathan Yuen,  wrote:

> Hi All,
>
> The Altair 8080 was a S-100 system, so the 'display capabilities' were
> whatever terminal you had connected to it.  The Altair itself had no
> display that I know of.  Always wanted one but I was a poor student back
> then..
>
> Jonathan
>
> jonathan.y...@mykopat.slu.se
> 
> Från: M100 [m100-boun...@lists.bitchin100.com] för Ron Lauzon [
> rlau...@tutanota.com]
> Skickat: den 8 januari 2020 17:50
> Till: M100
> Ämne: Re: [M100] Books on programming
>
> Yes, but the games wouldn't take advantage of the display capabilities.
>
> Jan 8, 2020, 11:48 by james.z...@gmail.com:
> Basic Computer Games by David H.
>
>
> Would the programs in this book work ok on the M100?
>
> I've read it's aimed at an Altair 8080.
>
>
>
> ---
> När du skickar e-post till SLU så innebär detta att SLU behandlar dina
> personuppgifter. För att läsa mer om hur detta går till, klicka här <
> https://www.slu.se/om-slu/kontakta-slu/personuppgifter/>
> E-mailing SLU will result in SLU processing your personal data. For more
> information on how this is done, click here <
> https://www.slu.se/en/about-slu/contact-slu/personal-data/>
>

Re: [M100] Books on programming

[James Zeun]

Basic Computer Games by David H.


Would the programs in this book work ok on the M100?

I've read it's aimed at an Altair 8080.

On Wed, 8 Jan 2020, 7:42 am James Zeun,  wrote:

> Dragon #74
>
> On Wed, 8 Jan 2020, 1:56 am Peter Vollan,  wrote:
>
>> What edition do you use?
>>
>> On Tue, 7 Jan 2020 at 17:06, James Zeun  wrote:
>> >
>> > Great, I'll have to check that out!
>> >
>> > I'm currently checking out all the books that have been suggested to me.
>> >
>> > Really difficult to find physically books.
>> >
>> >
>> > On Wed, 8 Jan 2020, 1:03 am C. Magaret,  wrote:
>> >>
>> >> "Dragon" was about role-playing games, primarily D
>> >>
>> >> /CAM
>> >>
>> >>
>> >>
>> >> > On Jan 7, 2020, at 16:48, James Zeun  wrote:
>> >> >
>> >> > Was the Dragon Magazine a computer mag or a magazine about
>> roleplaying?
>> >> >
>> >> > On Wed, 8 Jan 2020, 12:30 am Peter Vollan, 
>> wrote:
>> >> > Dragon.
>> >> >
>> >> > On Tue, 7 Jan 2020 at 15:52, James Zeun 
>> wrote:
>> >> > >
>> >> > > Is that the one from the dungeon magazine?
>> >> > >
>> >> > > On Tue, 7 Jan 2020, 11:34 pm Peter Vollan, 
>> wrote:
>> >> > >>
>> >> > >> I have just about got the Dungeon Master's Personnel Service
>> debugged
>> >> > >> and working on Virtual T.
>> >> > >>
>> >> > >> On Tue, 7 Jan 2020 at 14:14, Britt Dodd 
>> wrote:
>> >> > >> >
>> >> > >> > I’ve read the M100 manual and it did have some examples on
>> there, but the majority of it was more a glossary of statements.
>> >> > >> >
>> >> > >> > Sent from my iPhone
>> >> > >> >
>> >> > >> > On Jan 7, 2020, at 5:10 PM, Dan Higdon 
>> wrote:
>> >> > >> >
>> >> > >> > 
>> >> > >> > The treasure horde program isn't posted anywhere. It's not
>> long, but I don't have a copy on this machine. When I get home, I can send
>> it to the list.
>> >> > >> >
>> >> > >> >
>> >> > >> >
>> >> > >> >
>> >> > >> > On Tue, Jan 7, 2020 at 4:00 PM Peter Vollan <
>> dprogra...@gmail.com> wrote:
>> >> > >> >>
>> >> > >> >> You may be interested in knowing that I have already cut that
>> text out
>> >> > >> >> of the pdf of Dragon #74 and then pasted it back together in a
>> text
>> >> > >> >> file. Better than typing it all in like the old days, yes? I
>> just ran
>> >> > >> >> it in Virtual T (Model 100) and it barfs at the command
>> "randomize".
>> >> > >> >>
>> >> > >> >> I did the same thing with a program to generated character for
>> TSR's
>> >> > >> >> Top Secret RPG, and then adapted it for the Model 100. It
>> looks at the
>> >> > >> >> tail end of TIME$ to randomise from 1 to 10 and then goes
>> through that
>> >> > >> >> many random numbers. It is on my Club 100 member page, but the
>> member
>> >> > >> >> pages are unfortunately down just now.
>> >> > >> >>
>> >> > >> >> I know that there is a program that does exactly what you
>> describe
>> >> > >> >> called D20.BA. I don't know how it randomises.
>> >> > >> >>
>> >> > >> >> I am interested in that program to generate treasure. BTW it
>> is called
>> >> > >> >> a treasure "hoard".
>> >> > >> >>
>> >> > >> >> On Tue, 7 Jan 2020 at 13:15, Jason Paul 
>> wrote:
>> >> > >> >> >
>> >> > >> >> > In most cases the syntax could change but the command should
>> mostly be the same. Depending on what machine you're using that particular
>> book was published with versions for specific Basics Commodore Atari Apple
>> TRS-80 etc.
>> >> > >> >> >
>> >> > &

Re: [M100] Dungeon Master's Personnel Service

[James Zeun]

But the best time to make a decision you'lll regret is when your sloshed!!
Everyone knows that!

I've only got the one M100 and I wouldn't part with it. I regularly use it
for writing stories and articles for me tech blog.


On Wed, 8 Jan 2020, 7:48 am MikeS,  wrote:

> We'll see once the effects of the wine wear off...
>
>
> - Original Message -
> *From:* James Zeun 
> *To:* m...@bitchin100.com
> *Sent:* Wednesday, January 08, 2020 2:45 AM
> *Subject:* Re: [M100] Dungeon Master's Personnel Service
>
> I'll have one of its going spare ;-)) hehe
>
> On Wed, 8 Jan 2020, 7:29 am Mike Stein,  wrote:
>
>> Truly BITCHIIN !!!
>>
>> Great job, John! Might as well get rid of all my 'real' M100s ;-)
>>
>> m
>>
>> - Original Message -
>> *From:* John R. Hogerhuis 
>> *To:* m...@bitchin100.com
>> *Sent:* Wednesday, January 08, 2020 1:56 AM
>> *Subject:* Re: [M100] Dungeon Master's Personnel Service
>>
>> For those who don't know about CloudT, Dan's program loads easily:
>>
>> For those who want to try the above program in CloudT:
>>
>> a) Select (only) the program text in the email
>> b) Ctrl-C or Right-Click- copy
>> c) Open CloudT : https://bitchin100.com/CloudT/
>> d) Scroll to the bottom of the screen
>> e) Paste the text into the rectangular text control (Ctrl-V) (or
>> Right-Click Paste)
>> f) Click on "Add Plain Text" Button
>> g) A window will pop up asking you for a name, type HOARD.DO
>> h) Click on the Model 100 screen
>> i) Select BASIC, hit Enter
>> j) Type CLOAD and hit Enter
>> k) type RUN and hit Enter
>>
>> CloudT is available on most any device if you want to mess around with
>> Model 100 BASIC programming.
>>
>> -- John.
>>
>>

Re: [M100] Dungeon Master's Personnel Service

[James Zeun]

I'll have one of its going spare ;-)) hehe

On Wed, 8 Jan 2020, 7:29 am Mike Stein,  wrote:

> Truly BITCHIIN !!!
>
> Great job, John! Might as well get rid of all my 'real' M100s ;-)
>
> m
>
> - Original Message -
> *From:* John R. Hogerhuis 
> *To:* m...@bitchin100.com
> *Sent:* Wednesday, January 08, 2020 1:56 AM
> *Subject:* Re: [M100] Dungeon Master's Personnel Service
>
> For those who don't know about CloudT, Dan's program loads easily:
>
> For those who want to try the above program in CloudT:
>
> a) Select (only) the program text in the email
> b) Ctrl-C or Right-Click- copy
> c) Open CloudT : https://bitchin100.com/CloudT/
> d) Scroll to the bottom of the screen
> e) Paste the text into the rectangular text control (Ctrl-V) (or
> Right-Click Paste)
> f) Click on "Add Plain Text" Button
> g) A window will pop up asking you for a name, type HOARD.DO
> h) Click on the Model 100 screen
> i) Select BASIC, hit Enter
> j) Type CLOAD and hit Enter
> k) type RUN and hit Enter
>
> CloudT is available on most any device if you want to mess around with
> Model 100 BASIC programming.
>
> -- John.
>
>

Re: [M100] Books on programming

[James Zeun]

Dragon #74

On Wed, 8 Jan 2020, 1:56 am Peter Vollan,  wrote:

> What edition do you use?
>
> On Tue, 7 Jan 2020 at 17:06, James Zeun  wrote:
> >
> > Great, I'll have to check that out!
> >
> > I'm currently checking out all the books that have been suggested to me.
> >
> > Really difficult to find physically books.
> >
> >
> > On Wed, 8 Jan 2020, 1:03 am C. Magaret,  wrote:
> >>
> >> "Dragon" was about role-playing games, primarily D
> >>
> >> /CAM
> >>
> >>
> >>
> >> > On Jan 7, 2020, at 16:48, James Zeun  wrote:
> >> >
> >> > Was the Dragon Magazine a computer mag or a magazine about
> roleplaying?
> >> >
> >> > On Wed, 8 Jan 2020, 12:30 am Peter Vollan, 
> wrote:
> >> > Dragon.
> >> >
> >> > On Tue, 7 Jan 2020 at 15:52, James Zeun  wrote:
> >> > >
> >> > > Is that the one from the dungeon magazine?
> >> > >
> >> > > On Tue, 7 Jan 2020, 11:34 pm Peter Vollan, 
> wrote:
> >> > >>
> >> > >> I have just about got the Dungeon Master's Personnel Service
> debugged
> >> > >> and working on Virtual T.
> >> > >>
> >> > >> On Tue, 7 Jan 2020 at 14:14, Britt Dodd 
> wrote:
> >> > >> >
> >> > >> > I’ve read the M100 manual and it did have some examples on
> there, but the majority of it was more a glossary of statements.
> >> > >> >
> >> > >> > Sent from my iPhone
> >> > >> >
> >> > >> > On Jan 7, 2020, at 5:10 PM, Dan Higdon 
> wrote:
> >> > >> >
> >> > >> > 
> >> > >> > The treasure horde program isn't posted anywhere. It's not long,
> but I don't have a copy on this machine. When I get home, I can send it to
> the list.
> >> > >> >
> >> > >> >
> >> > >> >
> >> > >> >
> >> > >> > On Tue, Jan 7, 2020 at 4:00 PM Peter Vollan <
> dprogra...@gmail.com> wrote:
> >> > >> >>
> >> > >> >> You may be interested in knowing that I have already cut that
> text out
> >> > >> >> of the pdf of Dragon #74 and then pasted it back together in a
> text
> >> > >> >> file. Better than typing it all in like the old days, yes? I
> just ran
> >> > >> >> it in Virtual T (Model 100) and it barfs at the command
> "randomize".
> >> > >> >>
> >> > >> >> I did the same thing with a program to generated character for
> TSR's
> >> > >> >> Top Secret RPG, and then adapted it for the Model 100. It looks
> at the
> >> > >> >> tail end of TIME$ to randomise from 1 to 10 and then goes
> through that
> >> > >> >> many random numbers. It is on my Club 100 member page, but the
> member
> >> > >> >> pages are unfortunately down just now.
> >> > >> >>
> >> > >> >> I know that there is a program that does exactly what you
> describe
> >> > >> >> called D20.BA. I don't know how it randomises.
> >> > >> >>
> >> > >> >> I am interested in that program to generate treasure. BTW it is
> called
> >> > >> >> a treasure "hoard".
> >> > >> >>
> >> > >> >> On Tue, 7 Jan 2020 at 13:15, Jason Paul 
> wrote:
> >> > >> >> >
> >> > >> >> > In most cases the syntax could change but the command should
> mostly be the same. Depending on what machine you're using that particular
> book was published with versions for specific Basics Commodore Atari Apple
> TRS-80 etc.
> >> > >> >> >
> >> > >> >> > Do a Google search for Dragon magazine 74 PDF and there
> should be a program listing that is a dungeon Master's kind of utility
> program. It's not the only one. Don't be confused by the battle computer
> that is really just a slotted wheel for determining combat to hit
> percentages.
> >> > >> >> >
> >> > >> >> > On Tue, Jan 7, 2020, 4:10 PM James Zeun 
> wrote:
> >> > >> >> >>
> >> > >> >> >> It says for the TRS80 Model 3... I'm assuming that would
> still be alright?
> >> > >> >> >>
> >> > >> >> >>
> >> > >> >> >>
> >> > >> >> >> On Tue, 7 Jan 2020, 8:55 pm Ken Pettit, 
> wrote:
> >> > >> >> >>>
> >> > >> >> >>> Hi James,
> >> > >> >> >>>
> >> > >> >> >>> I just remembered the title.  It is "Golden Flutes and
> Great Escapes":
> >> > >> >> >>>
> >> > >> >> >>>
> http://www.apple-iigs.info/doc/fichiers/goldenflutesandgreatescapes.pdf
> >> > >> >> >>>
> >> > >> >> >>> Ken
> >> > >> >> >>>
> >> > >> >> >>> On 1/7/20 12:48 PM, James Zeun wrote:
> >> > >> >> >>>
> >> > >> >> >>> Yes please! That would be great!
> >> > >> >> >>>
> >> > >> >> >>> On Tue, 7 Jan 2020, 8:36 pm Ken Pettit, 
> wrote:
> >> > >> >> >>>>
> >> > >> >> >>>>
> >> > >> >> >>>> On 1/7/20 11:12 AM, Jerry Stratton wrote:
> >> > >> >> >>>> >> I don't know if anyone has any books they'd be willing
> to part with or just recommend one.
> >> > >> >> >>>> >
> >> > >> >> >>>> > If your D includes wanting to write text
> adventures in BASIC, Tim Hartnell’s Creating Adventure Games On Your
> Computer was very nice.
> >> > >> >> >>>>
> >> > >> >> >>>> Come to think of it, I still own a book on writing text
> adventures in
> >> > >> >> >>>> BASIC ... probably sitting on the top shelf of my
> bookshelf at home.  I
> >> > >> >> >>>> could look up the title later tonight when I get home if
> it is of any
> >> > >> >> >>>> interest.
> >> > >> >> >>>>
> >> > >> >> >>>> Ken
> >> > >> >> >>>>
> >> > >> >> >>>
> >>
>

Re: [M100] Books on programming

[James Zeun]

Great, I'll have to check that out!

I'm currently checking out all the books that have been suggested to me.

Really difficult to find physically books.


On Wed, 8 Jan 2020, 1:03 am C. Magaret,  wrote:

> "Dragon" was about role-playing games, primarily D
>
> /CAM
>
>
>
> > On Jan 7, 2020, at 16:48, James Zeun  wrote:
> >
> > Was the Dragon Magazine a computer mag or a magazine about roleplaying?
> >
> > On Wed, 8 Jan 2020, 12:30 am Peter Vollan,  wrote:
> > Dragon.
> >
> > On Tue, 7 Jan 2020 at 15:52, James Zeun  wrote:
> > >
> > > Is that the one from the dungeon magazine?
> > >
> > > On Tue, 7 Jan 2020, 11:34 pm Peter Vollan, 
> wrote:
> > >>
> > >> I have just about got the Dungeon Master's Personnel Service debugged
> > >> and working on Virtual T.
> > >>
> > >> On Tue, 7 Jan 2020 at 14:14, Britt Dodd 
> wrote:
> > >> >
> > >> > I’ve read the M100 manual and it did have some examples on there,
> but the majority of it was more a glossary of statements.
> > >> >
> > >> > Sent from my iPhone
> > >> >
> > >> > On Jan 7, 2020, at 5:10 PM, Dan Higdon 
> wrote:
> > >> >
> > >> > 
> > >> > The treasure horde program isn't posted anywhere. It's not long,
> but I don't have a copy on this machine. When I get home, I can send it to
> the list.
> > >> >
> > >> >
> > >> >
> > >> >
> > >> > On Tue, Jan 7, 2020 at 4:00 PM Peter Vollan 
> wrote:
> > >> >>
> > >> >> You may be interested in knowing that I have already cut that text
> out
> > >> >> of the pdf of Dragon #74 and then pasted it back together in a text
> > >> >> file. Better than typing it all in like the old days, yes? I just
> ran
> > >> >> it in Virtual T (Model 100) and it barfs at the command
> "randomize".
> > >> >>
> > >> >> I did the same thing with a program to generated character for
> TSR's
> > >> >> Top Secret RPG, and then adapted it for the Model 100. It looks at
> the
> > >> >> tail end of TIME$ to randomise from 1 to 10 and then goes through
> that
> > >> >> many random numbers. It is on my Club 100 member page, but the
> member
> > >> >> pages are unfortunately down just now.
> > >> >>
> > >> >> I know that there is a program that does exactly what you describe
> > >> >> called D20.BA. I don't know how it randomises.
> > >> >>
> > >> >> I am interested in that program to generate treasure. BTW it is
> called
> > >> >> a treasure "hoard".
> > >> >>
> > >> >> On Tue, 7 Jan 2020 at 13:15, Jason Paul 
> wrote:
> > >> >> >
> > >> >> > In most cases the syntax could change but the command should
> mostly be the same. Depending on what machine you're using that particular
> book was published with versions for specific Basics Commodore Atari Apple
> TRS-80 etc.
> > >> >> >
> > >> >> > Do a Google search for Dragon magazine 74 PDF and there should
> be a program listing that is a dungeon Master's kind of utility program.
> It's not the only one. Don't be confused by the battle computer that is
> really just a slotted wheel for determining combat to hit percentages.
> > >> >> >
> > >> >> > On Tue, Jan 7, 2020, 4:10 PM James Zeun 
> wrote:
> > >> >> >>
> > >> >> >> It says for the TRS80 Model 3... I'm assuming that would still
> be alright?
> > >> >> >>
> > >> >> >>
> > >> >> >>
> > >> >> >> On Tue, 7 Jan 2020, 8:55 pm Ken Pettit, 
> wrote:
> > >> >> >>>
> > >> >> >>> Hi James,
> > >> >> >>>
> > >> >> >>> I just remembered the title.  It is "Golden Flutes and Great
> Escapes":
> > >> >> >>>
> > >> >> >>>
> http://www.apple-iigs.info/doc/fichiers/goldenflutesandgreatescapes.pdf
> > >> >> >>>
> > >> >> >>> Ken
> > >> >> >>>
> > >> >> >>> On 1/7/20 12:48 PM, James Zeun wrote:
> > >> >> >>>
> > >> >> >>> Yes please! That would be great!
> > >> >> >>>
> > >> >> >>> On Tue, 7 Jan 2020, 8:36 pm Ken Pettit, 
> wrote:
> > >> >> >>>>
> > >> >> >>>>
> > >> >> >>>> On 1/7/20 11:12 AM, Jerry Stratton wrote:
> > >> >> >>>> >> I don't know if anyone has any books they'd be willing to
> part with or just recommend one.
> > >> >> >>>> >
> > >> >> >>>> > If your D includes wanting to write text adventures
> in BASIC, Tim Hartnell’s Creating Adventure Games On Your Computer was very
> nice.
> > >> >> >>>>
> > >> >> >>>> Come to think of it, I still own a book on writing text
> adventures in
> > >> >> >>>> BASIC ... probably sitting on the top shelf of my bookshelf
> at home.  I
> > >> >> >>>> could look up the title later tonight when I get home if it
> is of any
> > >> >> >>>> interest.
> > >> >> >>>>
> > >> >> >>>> Ken
> > >> >> >>>>
> > >> >> >>>
>
>

Re: [M100] Books on programming

[James Zeun]

Was the Dragon Magazine a computer mag or a magazine about roleplaying?

On Wed, 8 Jan 2020, 12:30 am Peter Vollan,  wrote:

> Dragon.
>
> On Tue, 7 Jan 2020 at 15:52, James Zeun  wrote:
> >
> > Is that the one from the dungeon magazine?
> >
> > On Tue, 7 Jan 2020, 11:34 pm Peter Vollan,  wrote:
> >>
> >> I have just about got the Dungeon Master's Personnel Service debugged
> >> and working on Virtual T.
> >>
> >> On Tue, 7 Jan 2020 at 14:14, Britt Dodd  wrote:
> >> >
> >> > I’ve read the M100 manual and it did have some examples on there, but
> the majority of it was more a glossary of statements.
> >> >
> >> > Sent from my iPhone
> >> >
> >> > On Jan 7, 2020, at 5:10 PM, Dan Higdon  wrote:
> >> >
> >> > 
> >> > The treasure horde program isn't posted anywhere. It's not long, but
> I don't have a copy on this machine. When I get home, I can send it to the
> list.
> >> >
> >> >
> >> >
> >> >
> >> > On Tue, Jan 7, 2020 at 4:00 PM Peter Vollan 
> wrote:
> >> >>
> >> >> You may be interested in knowing that I have already cut that text
> out
> >> >> of the pdf of Dragon #74 and then pasted it back together in a text
> >> >> file. Better than typing it all in like the old days, yes? I just ran
> >> >> it in Virtual T (Model 100) and it barfs at the command "randomize".
> >> >>
> >> >> I did the same thing with a program to generated character for TSR's
> >> >> Top Secret RPG, and then adapted it for the Model 100. It looks at
> the
> >> >> tail end of TIME$ to randomise from 1 to 10 and then goes through
> that
> >> >> many random numbers. It is on my Club 100 member page, but the member
> >> >> pages are unfortunately down just now.
> >> >>
> >> >> I know that there is a program that does exactly what you describe
> >> >> called D20.BA. I don't know how it randomises.
> >> >>
> >> >> I am interested in that program to generate treasure. BTW it is
> called
> >> >> a treasure "hoard".
> >> >>
> >> >> On Tue, 7 Jan 2020 at 13:15, Jason Paul  wrote:
> >> >> >
> >> >> > In most cases the syntax could change but the command should
> mostly be the same. Depending on what machine you're using that particular
> book was published with versions for specific Basics Commodore Atari Apple
> TRS-80 etc.
> >> >> >
> >> >> > Do a Google search for Dragon magazine 74 PDF and there should be
> a program listing that is a dungeon Master's kind of utility program. It's
> not the only one. Don't be confused by the battle computer that is really
> just a slotted wheel for determining combat to hit percentages.
> >> >> >
> >> >> > On Tue, Jan 7, 2020, 4:10 PM James Zeun 
> wrote:
> >> >> >>
> >> >> >> It says for the TRS80 Model 3... I'm assuming that would still be
> alright?
> >> >> >>
> >> >> >>
> >> >> >>
> >> >> >> On Tue, 7 Jan 2020, 8:55 pm Ken Pettit, 
> wrote:
> >> >> >>>
> >> >> >>> Hi James,
> >> >> >>>
> >> >> >>> I just remembered the title.  It is "Golden Flutes and Great
> Escapes":
> >> >> >>>
> >> >> >>>
> http://www.apple-iigs.info/doc/fichiers/goldenflutesandgreatescapes.pdf
> >> >> >>>
> >> >> >>> Ken
> >> >> >>>
> >> >> >>> On 1/7/20 12:48 PM, James Zeun wrote:
> >> >> >>>
> >> >> >>> Yes please! That would be great!
> >> >> >>>
> >> >> >>> On Tue, 7 Jan 2020, 8:36 pm Ken Pettit, 
> wrote:
> >> >> >>>>
> >> >> >>>>
> >> >> >>>> On 1/7/20 11:12 AM, Jerry Stratton wrote:
> >> >> >>>> >> I don't know if anyone has any books they'd be willing to
> part with or just recommend one.
> >> >> >>>> >
> >> >> >>>> > If your D includes wanting to write text adventures in
> BASIC, Tim Hartnell’s Creating Adventure Games On Your Computer was very
> nice.
> >> >> >>>>
> >> >> >>>> Come to think of it, I still own a book on writing text
> adventures in
> >> >> >>>> BASIC ... probably sitting on the top shelf of my bookshelf at
> home.  I
> >> >> >>>> could look up the title later tonight when I get home if it is
> of any
> >> >> >>>> interest.
> >> >> >>>>
> >> >> >>>> Ken
> >> >> >>>>
> >> >> >>>
>

Re: [M100] Books on programming

[James Zeun]

Is that the one from the dungeon magazine?

On Tue, 7 Jan 2020, 11:34 pm Peter Vollan,  wrote:

> I have just about got the Dungeon Master's Personnel Service debugged
> and working on Virtual T.
>
> On Tue, 7 Jan 2020 at 14:14, Britt Dodd  wrote:
> >
> > I’ve read the M100 manual and it did have some examples on there, but
> the majority of it was more a glossary of statements.
> >
> > Sent from my iPhone
> >
> > On Jan 7, 2020, at 5:10 PM, Dan Higdon  wrote:
> >
> > 
> > The treasure horde program isn't posted anywhere. It's not long, but I
> don't have a copy on this machine. When I get home, I can send it to the
> list.
> >
> >
> >
> >
> > On Tue, Jan 7, 2020 at 4:00 PM Peter Vollan 
> wrote:
> >>
> >> You may be interested in knowing that I have already cut that text out
> >> of the pdf of Dragon #74 and then pasted it back together in a text
> >> file. Better than typing it all in like the old days, yes? I just ran
> >> it in Virtual T (Model 100) and it barfs at the command "randomize".
> >>
> >> I did the same thing with a program to generated character for TSR's
> >> Top Secret RPG, and then adapted it for the Model 100. It looks at the
> >> tail end of TIME$ to randomise from 1 to 10 and then goes through that
> >> many random numbers. It is on my Club 100 member page, but the member
> >> pages are unfortunately down just now.
> >>
> >> I know that there is a program that does exactly what you describe
> >> called D20.BA. I don't know how it randomises.
> >>
> >> I am interested in that program to generate treasure. BTW it is called
> >> a treasure "hoard".
> >>
> >> On Tue, 7 Jan 2020 at 13:15, Jason Paul  wrote:
> >> >
> >> > In most cases the syntax could change but the command should mostly
> be the same. Depending on what machine you're using that particular book
> was published with versions for specific Basics Commodore Atari Apple
> TRS-80 etc.
> >> >
> >> > Do a Google search for Dragon magazine 74 PDF and there should be a
> program listing that is a dungeon Master's kind of utility program. It's
> not the only one. Don't be confused by the battle computer that is really
> just a slotted wheel for determining combat to hit percentages.
> >> >
> >> > On Tue, Jan 7, 2020, 4:10 PM James Zeun  wrote:
> >> >>
> >> >> It says for the TRS80 Model 3... I'm assuming that would still be
> alright?
> >> >>
> >> >>
> >> >>
> >> >> On Tue, 7 Jan 2020, 8:55 pm Ken Pettit,  wrote:
> >> >>>
> >> >>> Hi James,
> >> >>>
> >> >>> I just remembered the title.  It is "Golden Flutes and Great
> Escapes":
> >> >>>
> >> >>>
> http://www.apple-iigs.info/doc/fichiers/goldenflutesandgreatescapes.pdf
> >> >>>
> >> >>> Ken
> >> >>>
> >> >>> On 1/7/20 12:48 PM, James Zeun wrote:
> >> >>>
> >> >>> Yes please! That would be great!
> >> >>>
> >> >>> On Tue, 7 Jan 2020, 8:36 pm Ken Pettit,  wrote:
> >> >>>>
> >> >>>>
> >> >>>> On 1/7/20 11:12 AM, Jerry Stratton wrote:
> >> >>>> >> I don't know if anyone has any books they'd be willing to part
> with or just recommend one.
> >> >>>> >
> >> >>>> > If your D includes wanting to write text adventures in
> BASIC, Tim Hartnell’s Creating Adventure Games On Your Computer was very
> nice.
> >> >>>>
> >> >>>> Come to think of it, I still own a book on writing text adventures
> in
> >> >>>> BASIC ... probably sitting on the top shelf of my bookshelf at
> home.  I
> >> >>>> could look up the title later tonight when I get home if it is of
> any
> >> >>>> interest.
> >> >>>>
> >> >>>> Ken
> >> >>>>
> >> >>>
>

Re: [M100] Books on programming

[James Zeun]

I see the examples as just that, examples. Ways to learn how code works, by
modifying existing code to see what happens.

I want to make my own program, eventually. Have to learn how to program
first! :-)

On Tue, 7 Jan 2020, 9:40 pm John R. Hogerhuis,  wrote:

> Careful James. Don't let us ruin your fun by doing your homework for you
> :-)
>
> We can give you info and nudges but code it yourself! It's the way to
> learn.
>
> -- John.
>

Re: [M100] Books on programming

[James Zeun]

It says for the TRS80 Model 3... I'm assuming that would still be alright?



On Tue, 7 Jan 2020, 8:55 pm Ken Pettit,  wrote:

> Hi James,
>
> I just remembered the title.  It is "Golden Flutes and Great Escapes":
>
> http://www.apple-iigs.info/doc/fichiers/goldenflutesandgreatescapes.pdf
>
> Ken
>
> On 1/7/20 12:48 PM, James Zeun wrote:
>
> Yes please! That would be great!
>
> On Tue, 7 Jan 2020, 8:36 pm Ken Pettit,  wrote:
>
>>
>> On 1/7/20 11:12 AM, Jerry Stratton wrote:
>> >> I don't know if anyone has any books they'd be willing to part with or
>> just recommend one.
>> >
>> > If your D includes wanting to write text adventures in BASIC, Tim
>> Hartnell’s Creating Adventure Games On Your Computer was very nice.
>>
>> Come to think of it, I still own a book on writing text adventures in
>> BASIC ... probably sitting on the top shelf of my bookshelf at home.  I
>> could look up the title later tonight when I get home if it is of any
>> interest.
>>
>> Ken
>>
>>
>

Re: [M100] Books on programming

[James Zeun]

Cool, are those magazines easy to get hold of?



On Tue, 7 Jan 2020, 9:04 pm Jason Paul,  wrote:

> I was going to mention that title also I would say many Dragon magazines
> have actual basic code fully listed for dice rollers character generators
> dungeon generator treasure generators. I happen to have most of them I'll
> start tossing out some issue numbers when I get a chance to go through the
> few index issues. Also compute! Magazine addressed a lot of these issues
> through the 80s directly being basic and in insertable machine language
> routines.
>
> On Tue, Jan 7, 2020, 3:55 PM Ken Pettit  wrote:
>
>> Hi James,
>>
>> I just remembered the title.  It is "Golden Flutes and Great Escapes":
>>
>> http://www.apple-iigs.info/doc/fichiers/goldenflutesandgreatescapes.pdf
>>
>> Ken
>>
>> On 1/7/20 12:48 PM, James Zeun wrote:
>>
>> Yes please! That would be great!
>>
>> On Tue, 7 Jan 2020, 8:36 pm Ken Pettit,  wrote:
>>
>>>
>>> On 1/7/20 11:12 AM, Jerry Stratton wrote:
>>> >> I don't know if anyone has any books they'd be willing to part with
>>> or just recommend one.
>>> >
>>> > If your D includes wanting to write text adventures in BASIC,
>>> Tim Hartnell’s Creating Adventure Games On Your Computer was very nice.
>>>
>>> Come to think of it, I still own a book on writing text adventures in
>>> BASIC ... probably sitting on the top shelf of my bookshelf at home.  I
>>> could look up the title later tonight when I get home if it is of any
>>> interest.
>>>
>>> Ken
>>>
>>>
>>

Re: [M100] Books on programming

[James Zeun]

Yes please! That would be great!

On Tue, 7 Jan 2020, 8:36 pm Ken Pettit,  wrote:

>
> On 1/7/20 11:12 AM, Jerry Stratton wrote:
> >> I don't know if anyone has any books they'd be willing to part with or
> just recommend one.
> >
> > If your D includes wanting to write text adventures in BASIC, Tim
> Hartnell’s Creating Adventure Games On Your Computer was very nice.
>
> Come to think of it, I still own a book on writing text adventures in
> BASIC ... probably sitting on the top shelf of my bookshelf at home.  I
> could look up the title later tonight when I get home if it is of any
> interest.
>
> Ken
>
>