[Mac-Access]: Multiple Subscriptions

2015-06-09 Thread Gordon Smith
Hello everybody

Several people have been complaining about unsubscription requests not being 
honoured by our servers.  Please believe me when I say that we take these 
issues very very seriously.   We have absolutely no wish whatever to spam 
anybody’s inbox, I can utterly assure you of that fact.

In light of this, I have just mace a very large amendment to our authentication 
database.  How it happened, I don’t rightly know.  But I can only presume that 
my earlier suspicion that VoiceOver was to blame.  Maybe I added you all three 
times when I thought VoiceOver was not populating the appropriate boxes in the 
database module front end.

However, as I say, I have now taken action to hopefully rectify this issue.  
The two addresses whose owners I know have requested removal, have been 
removed.  Those addresses which existed multiple times have been reduced to a 
single entry.  I hope that this change will fix the problem.

Those who are about to be unsubscribed will obviously receive this message, but 
it should be the last one they receive from the list unless they opt to rejoin.

Again, our apologies for the inconvenience.  Hopefully, this issue should now 
be resolved.  But feel free to contact us privately if not.  I am also working 
to try to reactivate the support address.



My compliments and kindest regards
Gordon Smith:
gor...@mac-access.net mailto:gor...@mac-access.net

Accessibility  Information Technology Support Specialist.








[Mac-Access]: archive of this morning's wwdc is up

2015-06-08 Thread Sarah k Alawami
For those interested I put the wwdc archive up for all to enjoy. heres the 
link. It will be up until next Monday.

http://ke7zum.tffppodcast.com:1000/wwdc%20first%20session%20archive%2006-08-2015.mp3

Enjoy, be blessed, and happy Monday

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[Mac-Access]: Iphone list

2015-06-07 Thread Mark Furness
What is the correct address for the Iphone list?
The one I have keeps on bouncing back to me.

Thank you for your help!

lMark


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RE: [Mac-Access]: pages question

2015-06-07 Thread george b
Yes go to

www.apple.com/support

then in the search edit field type pages keyboard shortcuts

then when you get the shortcut tables you can bookmark, send to yourself,
but the other choice is print and then in the print window for your mac
choose file and PDF and then print and it will ask where to save the file
choose a place and do it

now you will have a PDF of the shortcuts

-Original Message-
From: Ann Byrne [mailto:ann...@sbcglobal.net] 
Sent: Sunday, June 07, 2015 09:33
To: mac-access@mac-access.net
Subject: RE: [Mac-Access]: pages question

Can I export it somewhere to Braille it???
At 11:23 AM 6/7/2015, you wrote:
Yes put it in your bookmarks

-Original Message-
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Sent: Sunday, June 07, 2015 09:15
To: mac-access@mac-access.net
Subject: Re: [Mac-Access]: pages question

Is there a way to save the help file for future reference???
At 10:19 AM 6/7/2015, you wrote:
 Hello Ismael,
 
 In Pages, you can find the full list of shortcuts by going to the
 Help menu and down to Keyboard Shortcuts. You need to use the VO
 keys to navigate down to this option.
 
 Cheers,
 
 Anne
 
 
   On 6 Jun 2015, at 10:03, Ismael Herrera isupr...@me.com wrote:
  
   greetings every one!
   Does anyone on the list have a list of PAGES keystrokes?
  
  
   
  
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RE: [Mac-Access]: pages question

2015-06-07 Thread Ann Byrne

Can I export it somewhere to Braille it???
At 11:23 AM 6/7/2015, you wrote:

Yes put it in your bookmarks

-Original Message-
From: Ann Byrne [mailto:ann...@sbcglobal.net]
Sent: Sunday, June 07, 2015 09:15
To: mac-access@mac-access.net
Subject: Re: [Mac-Access]: pages question

Is there a way to save the help file for future reference???
At 10:19 AM 6/7/2015, you wrote:
Hello Ismael,

In Pages, you can find the full list of shortcuts by going to the
Help menu and down to Keyboard Shortcuts. You need to use the VO
keys to navigate down to this option.

Cheers,

Anne


  On 6 Jun 2015, at 10:03, Ismael Herrera isupr...@me.com wrote:
 
  greetings every one!
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Re: [Mac-Access]: pages question

2015-06-07 Thread Ann Byrne

Is there a way to save the help file for future reference???
At 10:19 AM 6/7/2015, you wrote:

Hello Ismael,

In Pages, you can find the full list of shortcuts by going to the 
Help menu and down to Keyboard Shortcuts. You need to use the VO 
keys to navigate down to this option.


Cheers,

Anne


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 greetings every one!
 Does anyone on the list have a list of PAGES keystrokes?


 

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Re: [Mac-Access]: pages question

2015-06-07 Thread Anne Robertson
Hello Ismael,

In Pages, you can find the full list of shortcuts by going to the Help menu and 
down to Keyboard Shortcuts. You need to use the VO keys to navigate down to 
this option.

Cheers,

Anne


 On 6 Jun 2015, at 10:03, Ismael Herrera isupr...@me.com wrote:
 
 greetings every one!
 Does anyone on the list have a list of PAGES keystrokes?  
 
 
 
 
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RE: [Mac-Access]: pages question

2015-06-07 Thread george b
Yes put it in your bookmarks 

-Original Message-
From: Ann Byrne [mailto:ann...@sbcglobal.net] 
Sent: Sunday, June 07, 2015 09:15
To: mac-access@mac-access.net
Subject: Re: [Mac-Access]: pages question

Is there a way to save the help file for future reference???
At 10:19 AM 6/7/2015, you wrote:
Hello Ismael,

In Pages, you can find the full list of shortcuts by going to the 
Help menu and down to Keyboard Shortcuts. You need to use the VO 
keys to navigate down to this option.

Cheers,

Anne


  On 6 Jun 2015, at 10:03, Ismael Herrera isupr...@me.com wrote:
 
  greetings every one!
  Does anyone on the list have a list of PAGES keystrokes?
 
 
  
 
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Re: [Mac-Access]: Detecting colour on the Mac

2015-06-06 Thread Sean Murphy
Anne,


Thanks for that. I thought that was the case. Since if you are editing 
documents or programming. Not knowing the indent is something that is very hard 
on the author. There are workarounds of course, but they are not very effective 
and interrupt your workflow.

Sean 
 On 6 Jun 2015, at 5:26 pm, Anne Robertson a...@anarchie.org.uk wrote:
 
 Hello Sean,
 
 On 6 Jun 2015, at 01:54, Sean Murphy smur7...@bigpond.net.au 
 mailto:smur7...@bigpond.net.au wrote:
 
 Also how do you detect the position of the cursor from the left side of the 
 screen in an application? Is this application dependent?
 
 This is problematic. VO-F4-F4 will give you the position of the insertion 
 point but this is its visual position on the screen. If you set the zoom to 
 200% the information won’t be dreadfully inaccurate, but it won’t be precise 
 either. I’ve been complaining to Apple about this for several years.
 
 Cheers,
 
 Anne
 



Re: [Mac-Access]: Detecting colour on the Mac

2015-06-06 Thread Anne Robertson
Hello Sean,

 On 6 Jun 2015, at 01:54, Sean Murphy smur7...@bigpond.net.au wrote:
 
 Also how do you detect the position of the cursor from the left side of the 
 screen in an application? Is this application dependent?

This is problematic. VO-F4-F4 will give you the position of the insertion point 
but this is its visual position on the screen. If you set the zoom to 200% the 
information won’t be dreadfully inaccurate, but it won’t be precise either. 
I’ve been complaining to Apple about this for several years.

Cheers,

Anne



[Mac-Access]: pages question

2015-06-06 Thread Ismael Herrera
greetings every one!
Does anyone on the list have a list of PAGES keystrokes?  




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Re: [Mac-Access]: Skype for Web (Beta) is now available to everyone in the US and UK

2015-06-06 Thread Christopher-Mark Gilland
I'll give it a try, but first I'm gonna have to find someone who's willing 
to let me call 'em.  LOL!


Chris.

- Original Message - 
From: Sarah k Alawami marri...@gmail.com

To: mac access list iOS Accessibility mac-access@mac-access.net
Sent: Friday, June 05, 2015 12:42 PM
Subject: [Mac-Access]: Skype for Web (Beta) is now available to everyone in 
the US and UK



Link is below. I'm not going to be testing this as I'm going to be busy, but 
hopefuly someone can and will test for accessibility under the mac platform 
and see if it is accessible. This would be good if I were on antohr machine 
with out skype, or what not. Enjoy.



http://feedproxy.google.com/~r/SkypeGarage/~3/Jac1eThzwLk/

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Re: [Mac-Access]: message from the list owner, please read

2015-06-06 Thread Christopher-Mark Gilland
Huge sigh...

Don't remove me for now.  We'll see how things go, but I do expect going 
forward for things to hopefully run more smoothely.  Thank you for finally 
looking into this.  It's a shame that so many people had to get on you about 
this, before anything was done, but as long as you're at this point willing to 
step up and really truely try getting things back together, I'm willing to give 
things one, and one? only! final chance.

I'm sorry for being so hard on ya, but as a system server administrator myself, 
you can hopefully to some degree understand why I was so.  In your defense, 
Voiceover not reading those edit boxes could certainly be an issue, and if 
indeed it can add people multiple times, therefore sending out multiple e-mail 
copies, then boy oh boy!  That's a bug that really! needs to be addressed, 
like, yesterday!

As I said, I'll stay for now, but I genuinely trust this isn't going to 
hopefully happen again in the foreseeable future.

Chris.

  - Original Message - 
  From: Gordon Smith 
  To: Mac OSX  iOS Accessibility 
  Sent: Friday, June 05, 2015 10:36 AM
  Subject: [Mac-Access]: message from the list owner, please read


  Hello everybody


  I’d just like to give you an explanation as to why some of you have had 
difficulty unsubscribing from the group.  Firstly, please understand that this 
was in no way a deliberate act on my part.


  When I was configuring the list, VoiceOver did not reveal the refreshed edit 
boxes when I added your addresses.  Therefore, I thought that they hadn’t 
actually been added, so I added them again.  This happened twice before the 
boxes’ contents were displayed to me, and I thought that the job was done.


  However, unbeknown to me, the addresses were added three times over.  This is 
why you’ve had difficulty and in some cases have received multiple copies of 
the messages.


  Please accept my most sincere apologies for the inconvenience.  I am 
modifying the list as I speak, so that each member is only subscribed once.  I 
am also taking out those addresses whose owners have requested that I do so.


  Those who have written to me threatening reprisals, (and there have been 3 of 
those), please know that I am removing you as you requested.


  I acknowledge though that this shouldn’t have happened.  There should be 
error-trapping within the software to prevent it.  I am taking this up with the 
developers.  But I am also working urgently to address the issue.


  Those of you who do wish to remain on the list, please don’t worry if you get 
repeated welcome messages.  If you get a message asking whether you want to 
join or not, then that is at your discretion.


  I am also taking steps to restore the support address so that these issues 
can be separated once again from my own inbox.


  


  My compliments and kindest regards
  Gordon Smith:
  gor...@mac-access.net


  Accessibility  Information Technology Support Specialist.


  








Re: [Mac-Access]: Is anyone still around this list?

2015-06-06 Thread Christopher-Mark Gilland
You know, I never actually thought of that, but the first one of those is 
probably where it came from.  Who knows.  That isn't the point though.


Chris.

- Original Message - 
From: Phil Halton philh...@gmail.com

To: mac-access@mac-access.net
Sent: Friday, June 05, 2015 9:54 AM
Subject: Re: [Mac-Access]: Is anyone still around this list?


Just curious, what does the H stand for in Jesus H Christ?
Holy?
Hector?
Hubba hubba?

Sent from my IPhone


On Jun 4, 2015, at 10:48 PM, Christopher-Mark Gilland 
clgillan...@gmail.com wrote:


O, Kay! o, kayy! O? Kayy!  I, get, the, point! 
You're here!  You're on the list!  Must everyone clutter my damn inbox 
just to write a two worded sentence, I'm here!  Hurray!  You're here!  Can 
you not take some courticy and write the individual off list who asked 
rather than clutterring up people's inboxes?  Jesus H Christ!  No offense 
whatsoever intended, but this is becoming incredibly irritating!


Chris.

- Original Message - From: wui chin Leong 
adrianleon...@icloud.com

To: mac-access@mac-access.net
Sent: Thursday, June 04, 2015 11:55 AM
Subject: Re: [Mac-Access]: Is anyone still around this list?



so am i too


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[Mac-Access]: Disabling preview pane in mac mail

2015-06-06 Thread Frank Ventura
Hi all, can anyone remind me how to turn off the message preview in Mac mail, 
here is what I have tried without success:
Find the splitter between the message table and preview and interact
bring it down to zero
use vo command f5 to move the mouse pointer
tap the track pad

Any help would be appreciated
Frank

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[Mac-Access]: message from the list owner, please read

2015-06-05 Thread Gordon Smith
Hello everybody

I’d just like to give you an explanation as to why some of you have had 
difficulty unsubscribing from the group.  Firstly, please understand that this 
was in no way a deliberate act on my part.

When I was configuring the list, VoiceOver did not reveal the refreshed edit 
boxes when I added your addresses.  Therefore, I thought that they hadn’t 
actually been added, so I added them again.  This happened twice before the 
boxes’ contents were displayed to me, and I thought that the job was done.

However, unbeknown to me, the addresses were added three times over.  This is 
why you’ve had difficulty and in some cases have received multiple copies of 
the messages.

Please accept my most sincere apologies for the inconvenience.  I am modifying 
the list as I speak, so that each member is only subscribed once.  I am also 
taking out those addresses whose owners have requested that I do so.

Those who have written to me threatening reprisals, (and there have been 3 of 
those), please know that I am removing you as you requested.

I acknowledge though that this shouldn’t have happened.  There should be 
error-trapping within the software to prevent it.  I am taking this up with the 
developers.  But I am also working urgently to address the issue.

Those of you who do wish to remain on the list, please don’t worry if you get 
repeated welcome messages.  If you get a message asking whether you want to 
join or not, then that is at your discretion.

I am also taking steps to restore the support address so that these issues can 
be separated once again from my own inbox.



My compliments and kindest regards
Gordon Smith:
gor...@mac-access.net mailto:gor...@mac-access.net

Accessibility  Information Technology Support Specialist.








Re: [Mac-Access]: message from the list owner, please read

2015-06-05 Thread Matthew Chao
Hi, Gordon.  Thanks for answering the question 
regarding multiple duplicates.  I must admit, 
they sure filled up my inbox quite a bit.


The above said, however, keep up the good 
work.  This list is a godsend, especially for 
those of us who float between Windows and 
Macs/iOS.  Thanks again for such a great list!


Matthew Chao

At 03:36 PM 6/5/2015 +0100, you wrote:

Hello everybody

I’d just like to give you an explanation as to 
why some of you have had difficulty 
unsubscribing from the group.  Firstly, please 
understand that this was in no way a deliberate act on my part.


When I was configuring the list, VoiceOver did 
not reveal the refreshed edit boxes when I added 
your addresses.  Therefore, I thought that they 
hadn’t actually been added, so I added them 
again.  This happened twice before the boxes’ 
contents were displayed to me, and I thought that the job was done.


However, unbeknown to me, the addresses were 
added three times over.  This is why you’ve 
had difficulty and in some cases have received multiple copies of the messages.


Please accept my most sincere apologies for the 
inconvenience.  I am modifying the list as I 
speak, so that each member is only subscribed 
once.  I am also taking out those addresses 
whose owners have requested that I do so.


Those who have written to me threatening 
reprisals, (and there have been 3 of those), 
please know that I am removing you as you requested.


I acknowledge though that this shouldn’t have 
happened.  There should be error-trapping within 
the software to prevent it.  I am taking this up 
with the developers.  But I am also working urgently to address the issue.


Those of you who do wish to remain on the list, 
please don’t worry if you get repeated welcome 
messages.  If you get a message asking whether 
you want to join or not, then that is at your discretion.


I am also taking steps to restore the support 
address so that these issues can be separated once again from my own inbox.




My compliments and kindest regards
Gordon Smith:
mailto:gor...@mac-access.netgor...@mac-access.net

Accessibility  Information Technology Support Specialist.

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[Mac-Access]: Skype for Web (Beta) is now available to everyone in the US and UK

2015-06-05 Thread Sarah k Alawami
Link is below. I'm not going to be testing this as I'm going to be busy, but 
hopefuly someone can and will test for accessibility under the mac platform and 
see if it is accessible. This would be good if I were on antohr machine with 
out skype, or what not. Enjoy.


http://feedproxy.google.com/~r/SkypeGarage/~3/Jac1eThzwLk/

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Re: [Mac-Access]: message from the list owner, please read

2015-06-05 Thread Sarah k Alawami
yeah I was wondering why my message got send 3 times when I only sent it once. 
I thought it was me as that has happened in the past on other things. Ok back 
to lurking I go. 
 On Jun 5, 2015, at 7:43 AM, Matthew Chao mattc...@verizon.net wrote:
 
 Hi, Gordon.  Thanks for answering the question regarding multiple duplicates. 
  I must admit, they sure filled up my inbox quite a bit.
 
 The above said, however, keep up the good work.  This list is a godsend, 
 especially for those of us who float between Windows and Macs/iOS.  Thanks 
 again for such a great list!
 
 Matthew Chao
 
 At 03:36 PM 6/5/2015 +0100, you wrote:
 Hello everybody
 
 I’d just like to give you an explanation as to why some of you have had 
 difficulty unsubscribing from the group.  Firstly, please understand that 
 this was in no way a deliberate act on my part.
 
 When I was configuring the list, VoiceOver did not reveal the refreshed edit 
 boxes when I added your addresses.  Therefore, I thought that they hadn’t 
 actually been added, so I added them again.  This happened twice before the 
 boxes’ contents were displayed to me, and I thought that the job was done.
 
 However, unbeknown to me, the addresses were added three times over.  This 
 is why you’ve had difficulty and in some cases have received multiple 
 copies of the messages.
 
 Please accept my most sincere apologies for the inconvenience.  I am 
 modifying the list as I speak, so that each member is only subscribed once.  
 I am also taking out those addresses whose owners have requested that I do 
 so.
 
 Those who have written to me threatening reprisals, (and there have been 3 
 of those), please know that I am removing you as you requested.
 
 I acknowledge though that this shouldn’t have happened.  There should be 
 error-trapping within the software to prevent it.  I am taking this up with 
 the developers.  But I am also working urgently to address the issue.
 
 Those of you who do wish to remain on the list, please don’t worry if you 
 get repeated welcome messages.  If you get a message asking whether you want 
 to join or not, then that is at your discretion.
 
 I am also taking steps to restore the support address so that these issues 
 can be separated once again from my own inbox.
 
 
 
 My compliments and kindest regards
 Gordon Smith:
 mailto:gor...@mac-access.netgor...@mac-access.net
 
 Accessibility  Information Technology Support Specialist.
 
 ———”——————————
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
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Re: [Mac-Access]: gmail

2015-06-05 Thread Jude DaShiell
Here's why you get those messages from google.  The package that's 
accessing gmail hasn't got the most modern security features in it.  To 
fix this, you'll need to go into account settings and check the box that 
says allow less secure software to access your gmail account. 
Supposedly easier for hackers to get in once you do this, but even the 
most modern security features were no protection for the Federal 
employees and retirees that had their accounts hacked over at OPM.


On Fri, 5 Jun 2015, Lovette Yewchan wrote:


Date: Fri, 5 Jun 2015 14:30:18
From: Lovette Yewchan lyewc...@telus.net
Reply-To: mac-access@mac-access.net
To: OS X  iOS Accessibility mac-access@mac-access.net
Subject: [Mac-Access]: gmail

Hi there.
I am wondering if anyone can help with gmail.
I can access it on the web, and have set it up for my computer to download the 
email.
Sometimes it does, other times I get a message from gmail saying they blocked 
an attempt to access my mail and I know it was my computer trying to download. 
I even checked that it would do it from my computer, but I am still getting 
error messages sometimes.
Any ideas?
Thanks.
Lovette



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[Mac-Access]: Detecting colour on the Mac

2015-06-05 Thread Sean Murphy
Team,

How do you detect colour on the Mac? If something has a red background with 
black foreground. Howdo you achieve this with VO?

Also how do you detect the position of the cursor from the left side of the 
screen in an application? Is this application dependent?

Sean 

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Re: [Mac-Access]: Detecting colour on the Mac

2015-06-05 Thread Sarah k Alawami
I know to tedect color it's vo plus t. I forgot how to do the curser ting as I 
normally don't need to do this.

Take care.
 On Jun 5, 2015, at 4:54 PM, Sean Murphy smur7...@bigpond.net.au wrote:
 
 Team,
 
 How do you detect colour on the Mac? If something has a red background with 
 black foreground. Howdo you achieve this with VO?
 
 Also how do you detect the position of the cursor from the left side of the 
 screen in an application? Is this application dependent?
 
 Sean 
 
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[Mac-Access]: tune in to the live stream of the apple keynote june 8 2015!

2015-06-04 Thread Sarah k Alawami
Get ready for some fun Monday at 10:00 am pdt, 17:00 UTC I will be streaming 
the apple live keynote Monday  from 10:00 to about 12:00  at 13:00 pdt I'll be 
having a  round table on google hang outs. I'll give the link to that about an 
hour before that starts for those interested.  Questions may be submitted 
through the QA app I'll have installed on the hang out. If you want the link 
now to submit questions you may do so. Here is the link to the google hang out 
explaining what it is.

https://plus.google.com/events/cp1qktsd09llvql55b0ejljbpcs

I  already have the guest lined up invited so let's hope they show. Lol!

I'll sen out the stream links and google hang out event link 1 hour before the 
whole thing starts at 10:00 am.

Good luck to all.



Re: [Mac-Access]: Is anyone still around this list?

2015-06-04 Thread Christopher-Mark Gilland
O, Kay! o, kayy! O? Kayy!  I, get, the, point! 
You're here!  You're on the list!  Must everyone clutter my damn inbox just 
to write a two worded sentence, I'm here!  Hurray!  You're here!  Can you 
not take some courticy and write the individual off list who asked rather 
than clutterring up people's inboxes?  Jesus H Christ!  No offense 
whatsoever intended, but this is becoming incredibly irritating!


Chris.

- Original Message - 
From: wui chin Leong adrianleon...@icloud.com

To: mac-access@mac-access.net
Sent: Thursday, June 04, 2015 11:55 AM
Subject: Re: [Mac-Access]: Is anyone still around this list?



so am i too


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Re: [Mac-Access]: Ladies Gentlemen, We Are Back!

2015-06-04 Thread Christopher-Mark Gilland
How do you have your e-mails set up on each, pop, or IMap?

Chris.

  - Original Message - 
  From: Juanita Martin 
  To: OS X  iOS Accessibility 
  Sent: Thursday, June 04, 2015 12:32 PM
  Subject: Re: [Mac-Access]: Ladies  Gentlemen, We Are Back!


  I have just one email address.  The interesting thing is though, on my 
iPhone, I get three copies of each message from this list but on my Mac Air, I 
just get one copy.  Wonder why that is;


On Jun 3, 2015, at 11:48 AM, Christopher-Mark Gilland 
clgillan...@gmail.com wrote:


I got to thinking about that whole thing with people getting multiple 
messages.  I'm definitely not, and it seems  there are some others who are not 
either.  Could it be that you are getting multiple because you're subscribed 
unknowingly under two different e-mail addresses or more?  Just a thought.

Chris.

  - Original Message - 
  From: matthew.dy...@icloud.com
  To: mac-access@mac-access.net
  Sent: Wednesday, June 03, 2015 11:26 AM
  Subject: RE: [Mac-Access]: Ladies  Gentlemen, We Are Back!


  Hi,

  Also, just a report that I am getting more than 1 copy of each  message.  
 Is there amnyone else here getting this.

  Matthew



  From: barbara jones [mailto:jone...@comcast.net] 
  Sent: Wednesday, June 3, 2015 7:13 AM
  To: mac-access@mac-access.net
  Subject: Re: [Mac-Access]: Ladies  Gentlemen, We Are Back!

  This does not work. I did not receive any authentication message.
  Barbara

  On Jun 2, 2015, at 11:14 AM, Gordon Smith gor...@mac-access.net wrote:



hello

Please just take a moment to modify or cancel your subscription; we 
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Thank you.



My compliments and kindest regards
Gordon Smith:
gor...@mac-access.net

Accessibility  Information Technology Support Specialist.






On 24 May 2015, at 12:43, sadam ahmed sadamahmed1...@icloud.com wrote:

Hi Gordon, 

I am writing this email to ask you to remove me from this list. 

If you could remove me as soon as possible it would be greatly 
appreciated. 

Best wishes, 

Sadam Ahmed 

Email: 

sadamahmed1...@icloud.com 

Sent from my iPhone. 

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On 24 May 2015, at 7:38 pm, Jackie Brown 
thebrownspl...@btinternet.com wrote:

  Hello Gordon

  Could I ask you to remove me from your groups please as I have enough 
Email traffic to be getting on with.  Since your server recovery, I am now 
receiving messages from you that I don't want to be subscribed to.

  Many thanks, and good luck.


  Kind Regards,

  Jackie Brown
  Emails: thebrownspl...@btinternet.com
  jackieannbrow...@gmail.com
  jac...@thebrownsplace.info
  Check out my website: www.thebrownsplace.info
  Read my EyeWrite blog: www.thebrownsplace.info/?page_id=136
  Follow me on Twitter: @thebrownsplace
  Skype: thejackmate

  -Original Message-
  From: Gordon Smith [mailto:gor...@mac-access.net] 
  Sent: 24 May 2015 10:27
  To: Mac OSX  iOS Accessibility
  Subject: [Mac-Access]: Ladies  Gentlemen, We Are Back!

  Good Sunday to all

  We should now be back in business as a group, although I have some 
tweaking still to do.  But I hope you’re all well, and receive our call.

  Please don’t send “I am here’, or “I see you” to the group.  We just 
want life to resume from where it left off.

  Let’s just say we’ve had a spectacular server crash from which we 
couldn’t recover.  So we were forced to make a transition, ready or not!

  Kindest regards

  Gordon










Re: [Mac-Access]: Ladies Gentlemen, We Are Back!

2015-06-04 Thread gs
I'm getting rather tired of wading through the complaint messages on this list. 
Please take whatever steps are necessary to unsubscribe me. The method you 
outline below does not work.


On Jun 2, 2015, at 11:14 AM, Gordon Smith gor...@mac-access.net wrote:

hello

Please just take a moment to modify or cancel your subscription; we added you 
all in bulk as you expressed a wish to remain part of the groups, or at the 
very least, you did not express a wish not to be part of the group.

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mac-access-le...@mac-access.net mailto:mac-access-le...@mac-access.net
that will cause an authentication message to be sent to you.  Please just 
respond to is as indicated in the message and you’re done.

Thank you.



My compliments and kindest regards
Gordon Smith:
gor...@mac-access.net mailto:gor...@mac-access.net

Accessibility  Information Technology Support Specialist.






On 24 May 2015, at 12:43, sadam ahmed sadamahmed1...@icloud.com 
mailto:sadamahmed1...@icloud.com wrote:

Hi Gordon, 

I am writing this email to ask you to remove me from this list. 

If you could remove me as soon as possible it would be greatly appreciated. 

Best wishes, 

Sadam Ahmed 

Email: 

sadamahmed1...@icloud.com mailto:sadamahmed1...@icloud.com 

Sent from my iPhone. 

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On 24 May 2015, at 7:38 pm, Jackie Brown thebrownspl...@btinternet.com 
mailto:thebrownspl...@btinternet.com wrote:

 Hello Gordon
 
 Could I ask you to remove me from your groups please as I have enough Email 
 traffic to be getting on with.  Since your server recovery, I am now 
 receiving messages from you that I don't want to be subscribed to.
 
 Many thanks, and good luck.
 
 
 Kind Regards,
 
 Jackie Brown
 Emails: thebrownspl...@btinternet.com mailto:thebrownspl...@btinternet.com
 jackieannbrow...@gmail.com mailto:jackieannbrow...@gmail.com
 jac...@thebrownsplace.info mailto:jac...@thebrownsplace.info
 Check out my website: www.thebrownsplace.info 
 http://www.thebrownsplace.info/
 Read my EyeWrite blog: www.thebrownsplace.info/?page_id=136 
 http://www.thebrownsplace.info/?page_id=136
 Follow me on Twitter: @thebrownsplace
 Skype: thejackmate
 
 -Original Message-
 From: Gordon Smith [mailto:gor...@mac-access.net 
 mailto:gor...@mac-access.net] 
 Sent: 24 May 2015 10:27
 To: Mac OSX  iOS Accessibility
 Subject: [Mac-Access]: Ladies  Gentlemen, We Are Back!
 
 Good Sunday to all
 
 We should now be back in business as a group, although I have some tweaking 
 still to do.  But I hope you’re all well, and receive our call.
 
 Please don’t send “I am here’, or “I see you” to the group.  We just want 
 life to resume from where it left off.
 
 Let’s just say we’ve had a spectacular server crash from which we couldn’t 
 recover.  So we were forced to make a transition, ready or not!
 
 Kindest regards
 
 Gordon
 
 
 
 




Re: [Mac-Access]: Ladies Gentlemen, We Are Back!

2015-06-04 Thread Anne Robertson
Hello Juanita,

You’re probably getting three messages on your Mac, too. Try deleting a message 
and then pressing Cmd-z to restore it. You’ll probably hear that three messages 
have been restored. Mail just shows one copy as they’re all coming to the same 
address and are all sent out at the same time.

Cheers,

Anne


 On 4 Jun 2015, at 18:32, Juanita Martin jordmar...@suddenlink.net wrote:
 
 I have just one email address.  The interesting thing is though, on my 
 iPhone, I get three copies of each message from this list but on my Mac Air, 
 I just get one copy.  Wonder why that is;



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Re: [Mac-Access]: Is anyone still around this list?

2015-06-04 Thread wui chin Leong
so am i too


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Re: [Mac-Access]: Ladies Gentlemen, We Are Back!

2015-06-04 Thread Juanita Martin
I have just one email address.  The interesting thing is though, on my iPhone, 
I get three copies of each message from this list but on my Mac Air, I just get 
one copy.  Wonder why that is;

 On Jun 3, 2015, at 11:48 AM, Christopher-Mark Gilland clgillan...@gmail.com 
 wrote:
 
 I got to thinking about that whole thing with people getting multiple 
 messages.  I'm definitely not, and it seems  there are some others who are 
 not either.  Could it be that you are getting multiple because you're 
 subscribed unknowingly under two different e-mail addresses or more?  Just a 
 thought.
  
 Chris.
  
 - Original Message - 
 From: matthew.dy...@icloud.com mailto:matthew.dy...@icloud.com
 To: mac-access@mac-access.net mailto:mac-access@mac-access.net
 Sent: Wednesday, June 03, 2015 11:26 AM
 Subject: RE: [Mac-Access]: Ladies  Gentlemen, We Are Back!
 
 Hi,
  
 Also, just a report that I am getting more than 1 copy of each  message.   
 Is there amnyone else here getting this.
  
 Matthew
  
  
  
 From: barbara jones [mailto:jone...@comcast.net 
 mailto:jone...@comcast.net] 
 Sent: Wednesday, June 3, 2015 7:13 AM
 To: mac-access@mac-access.net mailto:mac-access@mac-access.net
 Subject: Re: [Mac-Access]: Ladies  Gentlemen, We Are Back!
  
 This does not work. I did not receive any authentication message.
 Barbara
  
 On Jun 2, 2015, at 11:14 AM, Gordon Smith gor...@mac-access.net 
 mailto:gor...@mac-access.net wrote:
 
 
 hello
  
 Please just take a moment to modify or cancel your subscription; we added 
 you all in bulk as you expressed a wish to remain part of the groups, or at 
 the very least, you did not express a wish not to be part of the group.
  
 To cancel your membership, please write to:
 mac-access-le...@mac-access.net mailto:mac-access-le...@mac-access.net
 that will cause an authentication message to be sent to you.  Please just 
 respond to is as indicated in the message and you’re done.
  
 Thank you.
  
 
  
 My compliments and kindest regards
 Gordon Smith:
 gor...@mac-access.net mailto:gor...@mac-access.net
  
 Accessibility  Information Technology Support Specialist.
  
 
  
  
 
  
 On 24 May 2015, at 12:43, sadam ahmed sadamahmed1...@icloud.com 
 mailto:sadamahmed1...@icloud.com wrote:
  
 Hi Gordon, 
  
 I am writing this email to ask you to remove me from this list. 
  
 If you could remove me as soon as possible it would be greatly appreciated. 
  
 Best wishes, 
  
 Sadam Ahmed 
  
 Email: 
  
 sadamahmed1...@icloud.com mailto:sadamahmed1...@icloud.com 
  
 Sent from my iPhone. 
  
 -- 
  
  
 
 On 24 May 2015, at 7:38 pm, Jackie Brown thebrownspl...@btinternet.com 
 mailto:thebrownspl...@btinternet.com wrote:
 
 Hello Gordon
 
 Could I ask you to remove me from your groups please as I have enough 
 Email traffic to be getting on with.  Since your server recovery, I am now 
 receiving messages from you that I don't want to be subscribed to.
 
 Many thanks, and good luck.
 
 
 Kind Regards,
 
 Jackie Brown
 Emails: thebrownspl...@btinternet.com 
 mailto:thebrownspl...@btinternet.com
 jackieannbrow...@gmail.com mailto:jackieannbrow...@gmail.com
 jac...@thebrownsplace.info mailto:jac...@thebrownsplace.info
 Check out my website: www.thebrownsplace.info 
 http://www.thebrownsplace.info/
 Read my EyeWrite blog: www.thebrownsplace.info/?page_id=136 
 http://www.thebrownsplace.info/?page_id=136
 Follow me on Twitter: @thebrownsplace
 Skype: thejackmate
 
 -Original Message-
 From: Gordon Smith [mailto:gor...@mac-access.net 
 mailto:gor...@mac-access.net] 
 Sent: 24 May 2015 10:27
 To: Mac OSX  iOS Accessibility
 Subject: [Mac-Access]: Ladies  Gentlemen, We Are Back!
 
 Good Sunday to all
 
 We should now be back in business as a group, although I have some 
 tweaking still to do.  But I hope you’re all well, and receive our call.
 
 Please don’t send “I am here’, or “I see you” to the group.  We just want 
 life to resume from where it left off.
 
 Let’s just say we’ve had a spectacular server crash from which we couldn’t 
 recover.  So we were forced to make a transition, ready or not!
 
 Kindest regards
 
 Gordon
 
 
 
 
 
  
 
  



Re: [Mac-Access]: Is anyone still around this list?

2015-06-04 Thread Anna
So am I:). 

Anna

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 Subject: Re: [Mac-Access]: Is anyone still around this list?
 
 I'm still here.
 
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 On Jun 3, 2015, at 4:44 AM, Robert Hill molliesda...@comcast.net wrote:
 
 Hi all,
 
 With all the furor of the past while, I temporarily unsubscribed from the 
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 I thought I'd subscribe again, and see what's happening here.
 
 Just wondering who's still left here.
 
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RE: [Mac-Access]: Is anyone still around this list?

2015-06-04 Thread Alex Barker
I am too!


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-Original Message-
From: Juanita Martin [mailto:jordmar...@suddenlink.net] 
Sent: 04 June 2015 15:18
To: mac-access@mac-access.net
Subject: Re: [Mac-Access]: Is anyone still around this list?

I'm still here.

Sent from my iPhone

 On Jun 3, 2015, at 4:44 AM, Robert Hill molliesda...@comcast.net wrote:
 
 Hi all,
 
 With all the furor of the past while, I temporarily unsubscribed from the 
 list.
 
 I thought I'd subscribe again, and see what's happening here.
 
 Just wondering who's still left here.
 
 Bob Hill
 
 
 Sent from Bob's Braille Sense U2 
 
 
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Re: [Mac-Access]: Is anyone still around this list?

2015-06-04 Thread Juanita Martin
I'm still here.

Sent from my iPhone

 On Jun 3, 2015, at 4:44 AM, Robert Hill molliesda...@comcast.net wrote:
 
 Hi all,
 
 With all the furor of the past while, I temporarily unsubscribed from the 
 list.
 
 I thought I'd subscribe again, and see what's happening here.
 
 Just wondering who's still left here.
 
 Bob Hill
 
 
 Sent from Bob's Braille Sense U2 
 
 
 To post messages to this group, please use the following address:
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Re: [Mac-Access]: Ladies Gentlemen, We Are Back!

2015-06-04 Thread Juanita Martin
Yes. I'm still getting three copies of all the messages.

Sent from my iPhone

 On Jun 3, 2015, at 10:26 AM, matthew.dy...@icloud.com wrote:
 
 Hi,
  
 Also, just a report that I am getting more than 1 copy of each  message.   Is 
 there amnyone else here getting this.
  
 Matthew
  
  
  
 From: barbara jones [mailto:jone...@comcast.net] 
 Sent: Wednesday, June 3, 2015 7:13 AM
 To: mac-access@mac-access.net
 Subject: Re: [Mac-Access]: Ladies  Gentlemen, We Are Back!
  
 This does not work. I did not receive any authentication message.
 Barbara
  
 On Jun 2, 2015, at 11:14 AM, Gordon Smith gor...@mac-access.net wrote:
 
 
 hello
  
 Please just take a moment to modify or cancel your subscription; we added you 
 all in bulk as you expressed a wish to remain part of the groups, or at the 
 very least, you did not express a wish not to be part of the group.
  
 To cancel your membership, please write to:
 mac-access-le...@mac-access.net
 that will cause an authentication message to be sent to you.  Please just 
 respond to is as indicated in the message and you’re done.
  
 Thank you.
  
 
  
 My compliments and kindest regards
 Gordon Smith:
 gor...@mac-access.net
  
 Accessibility  Information Technology Support Specialist.
  
 
  
  
 
  
 On 24 May 2015, at 12:43, sadam ahmed sadamahmed1...@icloud.com wrote:
  
 Hi Gordon, 
  
 I am writing this email to ask you to remove me from this list. 
  
 If you could remove me as soon as possible it would be greatly appreciated. 
  
 Best wishes, 
  
 Sadam Ahmed 
  
 Email: 
  
 sadamahmed1...@icloud.com 
  
 Sent from my iPhone. 
  
 -- 
  
  
 
 On 24 May 2015, at 7:38 pm, Jackie Brown thebrownspl...@btinternet.com 
 wrote:
 
 Hello Gordon
 
 Could I ask you to remove me from your groups please as I have enough Email 
 traffic to be getting on with.  Since your server recovery, I am now 
 receiving messages from you that I don't want to be subscribed to.
 
 Many thanks, and good luck.
 
 
 Kind Regards,
 
 Jackie Brown
 Emails: thebrownspl...@btinternet.com
 jackieannbrow...@gmail.com
 jac...@thebrownsplace.info
 Check out my website: www.thebrownsplace.info
 Read my EyeWrite blog: www.thebrownsplace.info/?page_id=136
 Follow me on Twitter: @thebrownsplace
 Skype: thejackmate
 
 -Original Message-
 From: Gordon Smith [mailto:gor...@mac-access.net] 
 Sent: 24 May 2015 10:27
 To: Mac OSX  iOS Accessibility
 Subject: [Mac-Access]: Ladies  Gentlemen, We Are Back!
 
 Good Sunday to all
 
 We should now be back in business as a group, although I have some tweaking 
 still to do.  But I hope you’re all well, and receive our call.
 
 Please don’t send “I am here’, or “I see you” to the group.  We just want 
 life to resume from where it left off.
 
 Let’s just say we’ve had a spectacular server crash from which we couldn’t 
 recover.  So we were forced to make a transition, ready or not!
 
 Kindest regards
 
 Gordon
 
 
 
 
  
  


Re: [Mac-Access]: Is anyone still around this list?

2015-06-03 Thread Alaltlas21
Hi, I am still here, inspite of endless attempts to unsubscribe.
Can you tell us how you managed to get out of this nightmare please?
Thank you.

Hatch.

  - Original Message - 
  From: Robert Hill 
  To: mac-access@mac-access.net 
  Sent: Wednesday, June 3, 2015 10:44 AM
  Subject: [Mac-Access]: Is anyone still around this list?


  Hi all,

  With all the furor of the past while, I temporarily unsubscribed from the 
list.

  I thought I'd subscribe again, and see what's happening here.

  Just wondering who's still left here.

  Bob Hill


  Sent from Bob's Braille Sense U2 
  

  To post messages to this group, please use the following address:
  mac-access@mac-access.net
  To leave the group, please post a blank message to:
  mac-access-le...@mac-access.net
  If, at a later time, you wish to rejoin the group, please subscribe by 
posting to:
  mac-access-j...@mac-access.net

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  mac-access-dig...@mac-access.net

  Please remember to keep your subscriber options current.  We are not 
responsible should things go amiss when, for example, you change E-Mail 
addresses.

  


Re: [Mac-Access]: Ladies Gentlemen, We Are Back!

2015-06-03 Thread Christopher-Mark Gilland
Doesn't surprise me.

Chris.

  - Original Message - 
  From: Marianne Robbins 
  To: mac-access@mac-access.net 
  Cc: Hewitt Robbins Marianne 
  Sent: Wednesday, June 03, 2015 1:49 PM
  Subject: Re: [Mac-Access]: Ladies  Gentlemen, We Are Back!


  I used this link, but it bounced as undeliverable




On Jun 3, 2015, at 10:38 AM, barbara jones jone...@comcast.net wrote:


Thanks christ. I am trying that link.
Barbara


On Jun 3, 2015, at 7:20 AM, Christopher-Mark Gilland 
clgillan...@gmail.com wrote:


  Nor did I.

  Gordon did say though, if it doesn't work, let him know, so let's all 
bombard him and lettem know.  I'm normally not that much of an ass, but this is 
ridiculous.

  gor...@mac-access.net

  Chris.

- Original Message -
From: barbara jones
To: mac-access@mac-access.net
Sent: Wednesday, June 03, 2015 7:12 AM
Subject: Re: [Mac-Access]: Ladies  Gentlemen, We Are Back!


This does not work. I did not receive any authentication message.
Barbara


On Jun 2, 2015, at 11:14 AM, Gordon Smith gor...@mac-access.net wrote:


  hello


  Please just take a moment to modify or cancel your subscription; we 
added you all in bulk as you expressed a wish to remain part of the groups, or 
at the very least, you did not express a wish not to be part of the group.


  To cancel your membership, please write to:
  mac-access-le...@mac-access.net
  that will cause an authentication message to be sent to you.  Please 
just respond to is as indicated in the message and you’re done.


  Thank you.


  


  My compliments and kindest regards
  Gordon Smith:
  gor...@mac-access.net


  Accessibility  Information Technology Support Specialist.


  







  On 24 May 2015, at 12:43, sadam ahmed sadamahmed1...@icloud.com 
wrote:


  Hi Gordon, 


  I am writing this email to ask you to remove me from this list. 


  If you could remove me as soon as possible it would be greatly 
appreciated. 


  Best wishes, 


  Sadam Ahmed 


  Email: 


  sadamahmed1...@icloud.com 


  Sent from my iPhone. 


  -- 





  On 24 May 2015, at 7:38 pm, Jackie Brown 
thebrownspl...@btinternet.com wrote:


Hello Gordon

Could I ask you to remove me from your groups please as I have 
enough Email traffic to be getting on with.  Since your server recovery, I am 
now receiving messages from you that I don't want to be subscribed to.

Many thanks, and good luck.


Kind Regards,

Jackie Brown
Emails: thebrownspl...@btinternet.com
jackieannbrow...@gmail.com
jac...@thebrownsplace.info
Check out my website: www.thebrownsplace.info
Read my EyeWrite blog: www.thebrownsplace.info/?page_id=136
Follow me on Twitter: @thebrownsplace
Skype: thejackmate

-Original Message-
From: Gordon Smith [mailto:gor...@mac-access.net] 
Sent: 24 May 2015 10:27
To: Mac OSX  iOS Accessibility
Subject: [Mac-Access]: Ladies  Gentlemen, We Are Back!

Good Sunday to all

We should now be back in business as a group, although I have some 
tweaking still to do.  But I hope you’re all well, and receive our call.

Please don’t send “I am here’, or “I see you” to the group.  We 
just want life to resume from where it left off.

Let’s just say we’ve had a spectacular server crash from which we 
couldn’t recover.  So we were forced to make a transition, ready or not!

Kindest regards

Gordon
















Re: [Mac-Access]: Ladies Gentlemen, We Are Back!

2015-06-03 Thread gs
Well, I took a moment to modify my subscription since I am a member of that 
very least group and didn't expect all this. Let's see if it works for me. It 
is difficult to comprehend how things have degenerated in exactly the fashion 
they have.


On Jun 2, 2015, at 11:14 AM, Gordon Smith gor...@mac-access.net wrote:

hello

Please just take a moment to modify or cancel your subscription; we added you 
all in bulk as you expressed a wish to remain part of the groups, or at the 
very least, you did not express a wish not to be part of the group.

To cancel your membership, please write to:
mac-access-le...@mac-access.net mailto:mac-access-le...@mac-access.net
that will cause an authentication message to be sent to you.  Please just 
respond to is as indicated in the message and you’re done.

Thank you.



My compliments and kindest regards
Gordon Smith:
gor...@mac-access.net mailto:gor...@mac-access.net

Accessibility  Information Technology Support Specialist.






On 24 May 2015, at 12:43, sadam ahmed sadamahmed1...@icloud.com 
mailto:sadamahmed1...@icloud.com wrote:

Hi Gordon, 

I am writing this email to ask you to remove me from this list. 

If you could remove me as soon as possible it would be greatly appreciated. 

Best wishes, 

Sadam Ahmed 

Email: 

sadamahmed1...@icloud.com mailto:sadamahmed1...@icloud.com 

Sent from my iPhone. 

-- 



On 24 May 2015, at 7:38 pm, Jackie Brown thebrownspl...@btinternet.com 
mailto:thebrownspl...@btinternet.com wrote:

 Hello Gordon
 
 Could I ask you to remove me from your groups please as I have enough Email 
 traffic to be getting on with.  Since your server recovery, I am now 
 receiving messages from you that I don't want to be subscribed to.
 
 Many thanks, and good luck.
 
 
 Kind Regards,
 
 Jackie Brown
 Emails: thebrownspl...@btinternet.com mailto:thebrownspl...@btinternet.com
 jackieannbrow...@gmail.com mailto:jackieannbrow...@gmail.com
 jac...@thebrownsplace.info mailto:jac...@thebrownsplace.info
 Check out my website: www.thebrownsplace.info 
 http://www.thebrownsplace.info/
 Read my EyeWrite blog: www.thebrownsplace.info/?page_id=136 
 http://www.thebrownsplace.info/?page_id=136
 Follow me on Twitter: @thebrownsplace
 Skype: thejackmate
 
 -Original Message-
 From: Gordon Smith [mailto:gor...@mac-access.net 
 mailto:gor...@mac-access.net] 
 Sent: 24 May 2015 10:27
 To: Mac OSX  iOS Accessibility
 Subject: [Mac-Access]: Ladies  Gentlemen, We Are Back!
 
 Good Sunday to all
 
 We should now be back in business as a group, although I have some tweaking 
 still to do.  But I hope you’re all well, and receive our call.
 
 Please don’t send “I am here’, or “I see you” to the group.  We just want 
 life to resume from where it left off.
 
 Let’s just say we’ve had a spectacular server crash from which we couldn’t 
 recover.  So we were forced to make a transition, ready or not!
 
 Kindest regards
 
 Gordon
 
 
 
 




Re: [Mac-Access]: Ladies Gentlemen, We Are Back!

2015-06-03 Thread Christopher-Mark Gilland
Nor did I.

Gordon did say though, if it doesn't work, let him know, so let's all bombard 
him and lettem know.  I'm normally not that much of an ass, but this is 
ridiculous.

gor...@mac-access.net

Chris.

  - Original Message - 
  From: barbara jones 
  To: mac-access@mac-access.net 
  Sent: Wednesday, June 03, 2015 7:12 AM
  Subject: Re: [Mac-Access]: Ladies  Gentlemen, We Are Back!


  This does not work. I did not receive any authentication message.
  Barbara


  On Jun 2, 2015, at 11:14 AM, Gordon Smith gor...@mac-access.net wrote:


hello


Please just take a moment to modify or cancel your subscription; we added 
you all in bulk as you expressed a wish to remain part of the groups, or at the 
very least, you did not express a wish not to be part of the group.


To cancel your membership, please write to:
mac-access-le...@mac-access.net
that will cause an authentication message to be sent to you.  Please just 
respond to is as indicated in the message and you’re done.


Thank you.





My compliments and kindest regards
Gordon Smith:
gor...@mac-access.net


Accessibility  Information Technology Support Specialist.










On 24 May 2015, at 12:43, sadam ahmed sadamahmed1...@icloud.com wrote:


Hi Gordon, 


I am writing this email to ask you to remove me from this list. 


If you could remove me as soon as possible it would be greatly appreciated. 


Best wishes, 


Sadam Ahmed 


Email: 


sadamahmed1...@icloud.com 


Sent from my iPhone. 


-- 





On 24 May 2015, at 7:38 pm, Jackie Brown thebrownspl...@btinternet.com 
wrote:


  Hello Gordon

  Could I ask you to remove me from your groups please as I have enough 
Email traffic to be getting on with.  Since your server recovery, I am now 
receiving messages from you that I don't want to be subscribed to.

  Many thanks, and good luck.


  Kind Regards,

  Jackie Brown
  Emails: thebrownspl...@btinternet.com
  jackieannbrow...@gmail.com
  jac...@thebrownsplace.info
  Check out my website: www.thebrownsplace.info
  Read my EyeWrite blog: www.thebrownsplace.info/?page_id=136
  Follow me on Twitter: @thebrownsplace
  Skype: thejackmate

  -Original Message-
  From: Gordon Smith [mailto:gor...@mac-access.net] 
  Sent: 24 May 2015 10:27
  To: Mac OSX  iOS Accessibility
  Subject: [Mac-Access]: Ladies  Gentlemen, We Are Back!

  Good Sunday to all

  We should now be back in business as a group, although I have some 
tweaking still to do.  But I hope you’re all well, and receive our call.

  Please don’t send “I am here’, or “I see you” to the group.  We just want 
life to resume from where it left off.

  Let’s just say we’ve had a spectacular server crash from which we 
couldn’t recover.  So we were forced to make a transition, ready or not!

  Kindest regards

  Gordon










Re: [Mac-Access]: Is anyone still around this list?

2015-06-03 Thread Margaret Booth
I'm still on the list.  

Margaret 


Sent from my iPhone

 On 3 Jun 2015, at 7:44 pm, Robert Hill molliesda...@comcast.net wrote:
 
 Hi all,
 
 With all the furor of the past while, I temporarily unsubscribed from the 
 list.
 
 I thought I'd subscribe again, and see what's happening here.
 
 Just wondering who's still left here.
 
 Bob Hill
 
 
 Sent from Bob's Braille Sense U2 
 
 
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Re: [Mac-Access]: Is anyone still around this list?

2015-06-03 Thread Christopher-Mark Gilland
Gordon finally came back, but he basically just did his usual, it's not my 
problem, here's how to unsubscribe, don't lookat me though if you want off 
the list dance.


I'd say the list is probably actually about the same membership, 
considerring most people were unsuccessful at getting removed.  Even the 
instructions Gordon gave the other day didn't seem to work for me.  I'd 
seriously considerred leaving, which then I changed my mind, however, that 
being said, like many, I tried to send an unsubscribe request to the address 
Gordon provided about a day ago, and even it! bounced.  Anyway, frankly, if 
it's not mac related, then I'm done with the unsubscribe me bullshit. 
Gordon and Lynn aren't gonna listen, so there's really not much point in me 
continuing to try to convince them.  It's unfortunate, but what the heck am 
I gonna do!  I can't stick a gun to their heads and say run this list more 
smoothely.


Chris.

- Original Message - 
From: Robert Hill molliesda...@comcast.net

To: mac-access@mac-access.net
Sent: Wednesday, June 03, 2015 5:44 AM
Subject: [Mac-Access]: Is anyone still around this list?



Hi all,

With all the furor of the past while, I temporarily unsubscribed from the 
list.


I thought I'd subscribe again, and see what's happening here.

Just wondering who's still left here.

Bob Hill


Sent from Bob's Braille Sense U2


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Re: [Mac-Access]: Re: [Mac-Access)': Is anyone still around this list?

2015-06-03 Thread RATTRAY J.
yes me to 
Dr Julie Rattray
Lecturer in Psychology and Education
University of durham
School of Education
Leazes Road 
DURHAM
DH1 1TA

Tel: 0191 33 48249
Email: julie.ratt...@durham.ac.uk



 On 3 Jun 2015, at 11:21, Robert Hill molliesda...@comcast.net wrote:
 
 Hi Margaret,
 
 Thanks for the reply. 
 At least I know I'm not typing to myself.
 
 Bob
 
 
 - Original Message -
 From: Margaret Booth margaretebo...@gmail.com
 To:  mac-access@mac-access.net
 CC: 
 Date: Wednesday, June 3, 2015 5:57 am
 Subject: Re: [Mac-Access)': Is anyone still around this list?
 
 
 
 I'm still on the list.  
 
 Margaret 
 
 
 Sent from my iPhone
 
 On 3 Jun 2015, at 7:44 pm, Robert Hill molliesda...@comcast.net wrote:
 
 Hi all,
 
 With all the furor of the past while, I temporarily unsubscribed from the 
 list.
 
 I thought I'd subscribe again, and see what's happening here.
 
 Just wondering who's still left here.
 
 Bob Hill
 
 
 Sent from Bob's Braille Sense U2 
 
 
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RE: [Mac-Access]: Ladies Gentlemen, We Are Back!

2015-06-03 Thread Terry Clasper
Yes it is, I've tried to unsubscrive about ten times to no avail!

 

 

From: Christopher-Mark Gilland [mailto:clgillan...@gmail.com] 
Sent: 03 June 2015 12:21
To: mac-access@mac-access.net
Subject: Re: [Mac-Access]: Ladies  Gentlemen, We Are Back!

 

Nor did I.

 

Gordon did say though, if it doesn't work, let him know, so let's all
bombard him and lettem know.  I'm normally not that much of an ass, but this
is ridiculous.

 

gor...@mac-access.net mailto:gor...@mac-access.net 

 

Chris.

 

- Original Message - 

From: barbara jones mailto:jone...@comcast.net  

To: mac-access@mac-access.net mailto:mac-access@mac-access.net  

Sent: Wednesday, June 03, 2015 7:12 AM

Subject: Re: [Mac-Access]: Ladies  Gentlemen, We Are Back!

 

This does not work. I did not receive any authentication message. 

Barbara

 

On Jun 2, 2015, at 11:14 AM, Gordon Smith gor...@mac-access.net
mailto:gor...@mac-access.net  wrote:





hello 

 

Please just take a moment to modify or cancel your subscription; we added
you all in bulk as you expressed a wish to remain part of the groups, or at
the very least, you did not express a wish not to be part of the group.

 

To cancel your membership, please write to:

mac-access-le...@mac-access.net mailto:mac-access-le...@mac-access.net 

that will cause an authentication message to be sent to you.  Please just
respond to is as indicated in the message and you're done.

 

Thank you.

 



 

My compliments and kindest regards

Gordon Smith:

gor...@mac-access.net mailto:gor...@mac-access.net 

 

Accessibility  Information Technology Support Specialist.

 



 

 

 

On 24 May 2015, at 12:43, sadam ahmed sadamahmed1...@icloud.com
mailto:sadamahmed1...@icloud.com  wrote:

 

Hi Gordon, 

 

I am writing this email to ask you to remove me from this list. 

 

If you could remove me as soon as possible it would be greatly appreciated. 

 

Best wishes, 

 

Sadam Ahmed  

 

Email: 

 

sadamahmed1...@icloud.com mailto:sadamahmed1...@icloud.com  

 

Sent from my iPhone. 

 

-- 

 

 


On 24 May 2015, at 7:38 pm, Jackie Brown thebrownspl...@btinternet.com
mailto:thebrownspl...@btinternet.com  wrote:

Hello Gordon

Could I ask you to remove me from your groups please as I have enough Email
traffic to be getting on with.  Since your server recovery, I am now
receiving messages from you that I don't want to be subscribed to.

Many thanks, and good luck.


Kind Regards,

Jackie Brown
Emails: thebrownspl...@btinternet.com mailto:thebrownspl...@btinternet.com

jackieannbrow...@gmail.com mailto:jackieannbrow...@gmail.com 
jac...@thebrownsplace.info mailto:jac...@thebrownsplace.info 
Check out my website: www.thebrownsplace.info
http://www.thebrownsplace.info/ 
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http://www.thebrownsplace.info/?page_id=136 
Follow me on Twitter: @thebrownsplace
Skype: thejackmate

-Original Message-
From: Gordon Smith [mailto:gor...@mac-access.net] 
Sent: 24 May 2015 10:27
To: Mac OSX  iOS Accessibility
Subject: [Mac-Access]: Ladies  Gentlemen, We Are Back!

Good Sunday to all

We should now be back in business as a group, although I have some tweaking
still to do.  But I hope you're all well, and receive our call.

Please don't send I am here', or I see you to the group.  We just want
life to resume from where it left off.

Let's just say we've had a spectacular server crash from which we couldn't
recover.  So we were forced to make a transition, ready or not!

Kindest regards

Gordon





 

 



[Mac-Access]: Re: [Mac-Access)': Is anyone still around this list?

2015-06-03 Thread Robert Hill
Hi Margaret,

Thanks for the reply. 
At least I know I'm not typing to myself.

Bob


- Original Message -
From: Margaret Booth margaretebo...@gmail.com
To:  mac-access@mac-access.net
CC: 
Date: Wednesday, June 3, 2015 5:57 am
Subject: Re: [Mac-Access)': Is anyone still around this list?



 I'm still on the list.  
 
 Margaret 
 
 
 Sent from my iPhone
 
 On 3 Jun 2015, at 7:44 pm, Robert Hill molliesda...@comcast.net wrote:
 
 Hi all,
 
 With all the furor of the past while, I temporarily unsubscribed from the 
 list.
 
 I thought I'd subscribe again, and see what's happening here.
 
 Just wondering who's still left here.
 
 Bob Hill
 
 
 Sent from Bob's Braille Sense U2 
 
 
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Re: [Mac-Access]: Re: [Mac-Access)': Is anyone still around this list?

2015-06-03 Thread Christopher-Mark Gilland
Please guys, for the sake of my sanity and others, reply to Robert off list, 
if you're still on the list wishing to respond.  If everyone writes and says 
I'm still on the list, it's gonna be a disaster!


Chris.

- Original Message - 
From: Robert Hill molliesda...@comcast.net

To: mac-access@mac-access.net
Sent: Wednesday, June 03, 2015 6:21 AM
Subject: [Mac-Access]: Re: [Mac-Access)': Is anyone still around this list?



Hi Margaret,

Thanks for the reply.
At least I know I'm not typing to myself.

Bob


- Original Message -
From: Margaret Booth margaretebo...@gmail.com
To:  mac-access@mac-access.net
CC:
Date: Wednesday, June 3, 2015 5:57 am
Subject: Re: [Mac-Access)': Is anyone still around this list?




I'm still on the list.

Margaret


Sent from my iPhone

On 3 Jun 2015, at 7:44 pm, Robert Hill molliesda...@comcast.net wrote:

Hi all,

With all the furor of the past while, I temporarily unsubscribed from the 
list.


I thought I'd subscribe again, and see what's happening here.

Just wondering who's still left here.

Bob Hill


Sent from Bob's Braille Sense U2


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Re: [Mac-Access]: Ladies Gentlemen, We Are Back!

2015-06-03 Thread barbara jones
This does not work. I did not receive any authentication message.
Barbara

On Jun 2, 2015, at 11:14 AM, Gordon Smith gor...@mac-access.net wrote:

 hello
 
 Please just take a moment to modify or cancel your subscription; we added you 
 all in bulk as you expressed a wish to remain part of the groups, or at the 
 very least, you did not express a wish not to be part of the group.
 
 To cancel your membership, please write to:
 mac-access-le...@mac-access.net
 that will cause an authentication message to be sent to you.  Please just 
 respond to is as indicated in the message and you’re done.
 
 Thank you.
 
 
 
 My compliments and kindest regards
 Gordon Smith:
 gor...@mac-access.net
 
 Accessibility  Information Technology Support Specialist.
 
 
 
 
 
 
 On 24 May 2015, at 12:43, sadam ahmed sadamahmed1...@icloud.com wrote:
 
 Hi Gordon, 
 
 I am writing this email to ask you to remove me from this list. 
 
 If you could remove me as soon as possible it would be greatly appreciated. 
 
 Best wishes, 
 
 Sadam Ahmed 
 
 Email: 
 
 sadamahmed1...@icloud.com 
 
 Sent from my iPhone. 
 
 -- 
 
 
 
 On 24 May 2015, at 7:38 pm, Jackie Brown thebrownspl...@btinternet.com 
 wrote:
 
 Hello Gordon
 
 Could I ask you to remove me from your groups please as I have enough Email 
 traffic to be getting on with.  Since your server recovery, I am now 
 receiving messages from you that I don't want to be subscribed to.
 
 Many thanks, and good luck.
 
 
 Kind Regards,
 
 Jackie Brown
 Emails: thebrownspl...@btinternet.com
 jackieannbrow...@gmail.com
 jac...@thebrownsplace.info
 Check out my website: www.thebrownsplace.info
 Read my EyeWrite blog: www.thebrownsplace.info/?page_id=136
 Follow me on Twitter: @thebrownsplace
 Skype: thejackmate
 
 -Original Message-
 From: Gordon Smith [mailto:gor...@mac-access.net] 
 Sent: 24 May 2015 10:27
 To: Mac OSX  iOS Accessibility
 Subject: [Mac-Access]: Ladies  Gentlemen, We Are Back!
 
 Good Sunday to all
 
 We should now be back in business as a group, although I have some tweaking 
 still to do.  But I hope you’re all well, and receive our call.
 
 Please don’t send “I am here’, or “I see you” to the group.  We just want 
 life to resume from where it left off.
 
 Let’s just say we’ve had a spectacular server crash from which we couldn’t 
 recover.  So we were forced to make a transition, ready or not!
 
 Kindest regards
 
 Gordon
 
 
 
 
 



[Mac-Access]: Is anyone still around this list?

2015-06-03 Thread Robert Hill
Hi all,

With all the furor of the past while, I temporarily unsubscribed from the list.

I thought I'd subscribe again, and see what's happening here.

Just wondering who's still left here.

Bob Hill


Sent from Bob's Braille Sense U2 


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RE: [Mac-Access]: Ladies Gentlemen, We Are Back!

2015-06-03 Thread matthew . dyer1
Hi,

 

Also, just a report that I am getting more than 1 copy of each  message.
Is there amnyone else here getting this.

 

Matthew

 

 

 

From: barbara jones [mailto:jone...@comcast.net] 
Sent: Wednesday, June 3, 2015 7:13 AM
To: mac-access@mac-access.net
Subject: Re: [Mac-Access]: Ladies  Gentlemen, We Are Back!

 

This does not work. I did not receive any authentication message.

Barbara

 

On Jun 2, 2015, at 11:14 AM, Gordon Smith gor...@mac-access.net
mailto:gor...@mac-access.net  wrote:





hello

 

Please just take a moment to modify or cancel your subscription; we added
you all in bulk as you expressed a wish to remain part of the groups, or at
the very least, you did not express a wish not to be part of the group.

 

To cancel your membership, please write to:

mac-access-le...@mac-access.net mailto:mac-access-le...@mac-access.net 

that will cause an authentication message to be sent to you.  Please just
respond to is as indicated in the message and you're done.

 

Thank you.

 



 

My compliments and kindest regards

Gordon Smith:

gor...@mac-access.net mailto:gor...@mac-access.net 

 

Accessibility  Information Technology Support Specialist.

 



 

 

 

On 24 May 2015, at 12:43, sadam ahmed sadamahmed1...@icloud.com
mailto:sadamahmed1...@icloud.com  wrote:

 

Hi Gordon, 

 

I am writing this email to ask you to remove me from this list. 

 

If you could remove me as soon as possible it would be greatly appreciated. 

 

Best wishes, 

 

Sadam Ahmed 

 

Email: 

 

sadamahmed1...@icloud.com mailto:sadamahmed1...@icloud.com  

 

Sent from my iPhone. 

 

-- 

 

 


On 24 May 2015, at 7:38 pm, Jackie Brown thebrownspl...@btinternet.com
mailto:thebrownspl...@btinternet.com  wrote:

Hello Gordon

Could I ask you to remove me from your groups please as I have enough Email
traffic to be getting on with.  Since your server recovery, I am now
receiving messages from you that I don't want to be subscribed to.

Many thanks, and good luck.


Kind Regards,

Jackie Brown
Emails: thebrownspl...@btinternet.com mailto:thebrownspl...@btinternet.com

jackieannbrow...@gmail.com mailto:jackieannbrow...@gmail.com 
jac...@thebrownsplace.info mailto:jac...@thebrownsplace.info 
Check out my website: www.thebrownsplace.info
http://www.thebrownsplace.info/ 
Read my EyeWrite blog: www.thebrownsplace.info/?page_id=136
http://www.thebrownsplace.info/?page_id=136 
Follow me on Twitter: @thebrownsplace
Skype: thejackmate

-Original Message-
From: Gordon Smith [mailto:gor...@mac-access.net] 
Sent: 24 May 2015 10:27
To: Mac OSX  iOS Accessibility
Subject: [Mac-Access]: Ladies  Gentlemen, We Are Back!

Good Sunday to all

We should now be back in business as a group, although I have some tweaking
still to do.  But I hope you're all well, and receive our call.

Please don't send I am here', or I see you to the group.  We just want
life to resume from where it left off.

Let's just say we've had a spectacular server crash from which we couldn't
recover.  So we were forced to make a transition, ready or not!

Kindest regards

Gordon





 

 



Re: [Mac-Access]: Ladies Gentlemen, We Are Back!

2015-06-03 Thread Adrian Leong
i am getting the same ones too


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Re: [Mac-Access]: Ladies Gentlemen, We Are Back!

2015-06-03 Thread Anne Robertson
Yes, I’m getting three copies of every message, but since they’re all being 
sent out at the same time and to the same address, I only see one copy unless I 
delete the message then restore it, at which point, VoiceOver says that three 
messages have been restored.

Cheers,

Anne


 On 3 Jun 2015, at 17:26, matthew.dy...@icloud.com wrote:
 
 Hi,
  
 Also, just a report that I am getting more than 1 copy of each  message.   Is 
 there amnyone else here getting this.
  
 Matthew



Re: [Mac-Access]: Ladies Gentlemen, We Are Back!

2015-06-03 Thread Christopher-Mark Gilland
I got to thinking about that whole thing with people getting multiple messages. 
 I'm definitely not, and it seems  there are some others who are not either.  
Could it be that you are getting multiple because you're subscribed unknowingly 
under two different e-mail addresses or more?  Just a thought.

Chris.

  - Original Message - 
  From: matthew.dy...@icloud.com 
  To: mac-access@mac-access.net 
  Sent: Wednesday, June 03, 2015 11:26 AM
  Subject: RE: [Mac-Access]: Ladies  Gentlemen, We Are Back!


  Hi,

   

  Also, just a report that I am getting more than 1 copy of each  message.   Is 
there amnyone else here getting this.

   

  Matthew

   

   

   

  From: barbara jones [mailto:jone...@comcast.net] 
  Sent: Wednesday, June 3, 2015 7:13 AM
  To: mac-access@mac-access.net
  Subject: Re: [Mac-Access]: Ladies  Gentlemen, We Are Back!

   

  This does not work. I did not receive any authentication message.

  Barbara

   

  On Jun 2, 2015, at 11:14 AM, Gordon Smith gor...@mac-access.net wrote:





hello

 

Please just take a moment to modify or cancel your subscription; we added 
you all in bulk as you expressed a wish to remain part of the groups, or at the 
very least, you did not express a wish not to be part of the group.

 

To cancel your membership, please write to:

mac-access-le...@mac-access.net

that will cause an authentication message to be sent to you.  Please just 
respond to is as indicated in the message and you're done.

 

Thank you.

 



 

My compliments and kindest regards

Gordon Smith:

gor...@mac-access.net

 

Accessibility  Information Technology Support Specialist.

 



 

 

 

On 24 May 2015, at 12:43, sadam ahmed sadamahmed1...@icloud.com wrote:

 

Hi Gordon, 

 

I am writing this email to ask you to remove me from this list. 

 

If you could remove me as soon as possible it would be greatly appreciated. 

 

Best wishes, 

 

Sadam Ahmed 

 

Email: 

 

sadamahmed1...@icloud.com 

 

Sent from my iPhone. 

 

-- 

 

 


On 24 May 2015, at 7:38 pm, Jackie Brown thebrownspl...@btinternet.com 
wrote:

  Hello Gordon

  Could I ask you to remove me from your groups please as I have enough 
Email traffic to be getting on with.  Since your server recovery, I am now 
receiving messages from you that I don't want to be subscribed to.

  Many thanks, and good luck.


  Kind Regards,

  Jackie Brown
  Emails: thebrownspl...@btinternet.com
  jackieannbrow...@gmail.com
  jac...@thebrownsplace.info
  Check out my website: www.thebrownsplace.info
  Read my EyeWrite blog: www.thebrownsplace.info/?page_id=136
  Follow me on Twitter: @thebrownsplace
  Skype: thejackmate

  -Original Message-
  From: Gordon Smith [mailto:gor...@mac-access.net] 
  Sent: 24 May 2015 10:27
  To: Mac OSX  iOS Accessibility
  Subject: [Mac-Access]: Ladies  Gentlemen, We Are Back!

  Good Sunday to all

  We should now be back in business as a group, although I have some 
tweaking still to do.  But I hope you're all well, and receive our call.

  Please don't send I am here', or I see you to the group.  We just want 
life to resume from where it left off.

  Let's just say we've had a spectacular server crash from which we 
couldn't recover.  So we were forced to make a transition, ready or not!

  Kindest regards

  Gordon





 

   


Re: [Mac-Access]: Ladies Gentlemen, We Are Back!

2015-06-03 Thread Anne Robertson
Hello Chris,

I was only ever subscribed with one e-mail address and only to this group.

Cheers,

Anne


 On 3 Jun 2015, at 18:48, Christopher-Mark Gilland clgillan...@gmail.com 
 wrote:
 
 I got to thinking about that whole thing with people getting multiple 
 messages.  I'm definitely not, and it seems  there are some others who are 
 not either.  Could it be that you are getting multiple because you're 
 subscribed unknowingly under two different e-mail addresses or more?  Just a 
 thought.
  
 Chris.
  
 - Original Message - 
 From: matthew.dy...@icloud.com mailto:matthew.dy...@icloud.com
 To: mac-access@mac-access.net mailto:mac-access@mac-access.net
 Sent: Wednesday, June 03, 2015 11:26 AM
 Subject: RE: [Mac-Access]: Ladies  Gentlemen, We Are Back!
 
 Hi,
  
 Also, just a report that I am getting more than 1 copy of each  message.   
 Is there amnyone else here getting this.
  
 Matthew
  
  
  
 From: barbara jones [mailto:jone...@comcast.net 
 mailto:jone...@comcast.net] 
 Sent: Wednesday, June 3, 2015 7:13 AM
 To: mac-access@mac-access.net mailto:mac-access@mac-access.net
 Subject: Re: [Mac-Access]: Ladies  Gentlemen, We Are Back!
  
 This does not work. I did not receive any authentication message.
 Barbara
  
 On Jun 2, 2015, at 11:14 AM, Gordon Smith gor...@mac-access.net 
 mailto:gor...@mac-access.net wrote:
 
 
 hello
  
 Please just take a moment to modify or cancel your subscription; we added 
 you all in bulk as you expressed a wish to remain part of the groups, or at 
 the very least, you did not express a wish not to be part of the group.
  
 To cancel your membership, please write to:
 mac-access-le...@mac-access.net mailto:mac-access-le...@mac-access.net
 that will cause an authentication message to be sent to you.  Please just 
 respond to is as indicated in the message and you’re done.
  
 Thank you.
  
 
  
 My compliments and kindest regards
 Gordon Smith:
 gor...@mac-access.net mailto:gor...@mac-access.net
  
 Accessibility  Information Technology Support Specialist.
  
 
  
  
 
  
 On 24 May 2015, at 12:43, sadam ahmed sadamahmed1...@icloud.com 
 mailto:sadamahmed1...@icloud.com wrote:
  
 Hi Gordon, 
  
 I am writing this email to ask you to remove me from this list. 
  
 If you could remove me as soon as possible it would be greatly appreciated. 
  
 Best wishes, 
  
 Sadam Ahmed 
  
 Email: 
  
 sadamahmed1...@icloud.com mailto:sadamahmed1...@icloud.com 
  
 Sent from my iPhone. 
  
 -- 
  
  
 
 On 24 May 2015, at 7:38 pm, Jackie Brown thebrownspl...@btinternet.com 
 mailto:thebrownspl...@btinternet.com wrote:
 
 Hello Gordon
 
 Could I ask you to remove me from your groups please as I have enough 
 Email traffic to be getting on with.  Since your server recovery, I am now 
 receiving messages from you that I don't want to be subscribed to.
 
 Many thanks, and good luck.
 
 
 Kind Regards,
 
 Jackie Brown
 Emails: thebrownspl...@btinternet.com 
 mailto:thebrownspl...@btinternet.com
 jackieannbrow...@gmail.com mailto:jackieannbrow...@gmail.com
 jac...@thebrownsplace.info mailto:jac...@thebrownsplace.info
 Check out my website: www.thebrownsplace.info 
 http://www.thebrownsplace.info/
 Read my EyeWrite blog: www.thebrownsplace.info/?page_id=136 
 http://www.thebrownsplace.info/?page_id=136
 Follow me on Twitter: @thebrownsplace
 Skype: thejackmate
 
 -Original Message-
 From: Gordon Smith [mailto:gor...@mac-access.net 
 mailto:gor...@mac-access.net] 
 Sent: 24 May 2015 10:27
 To: Mac OSX  iOS Accessibility
 Subject: [Mac-Access]: Ladies  Gentlemen, We Are Back!
 
 Good Sunday to all
 
 We should now be back in business as a group, although I have some 
 tweaking still to do.  But I hope you’re all well, and receive our call.
 
 Please don’t send “I am here’, or “I see you” to the group.  We just want 
 life to resume from where it left off.
 
 Let’s just say we’ve had a spectacular server crash from which we couldn’t 
 recover.  So we were forced to make a transition, ready or not!
 
 Kindest regards
 
 Gordon
 
 
 
 
 
  
 
  



Re: [Mac-Access]: Ladies Gentlemen, We Are Back!

2015-06-03 Thread barbara jones
Thanks christ. I am trying that link.
Barbara

On Jun 3, 2015, at 7:20 AM, Christopher-Mark Gilland clgillan...@gmail.com 
wrote:

 Nor did I.
  
 Gordon did say though, if it doesn't work, let him know, so let's all bombard 
 him and lettem know.  I'm normally not that much of an ass, but this is 
 ridiculous.
  
 gor...@mac-access.net
  
 Chris.
  
 - Original Message -
 From: barbara jones
 To: mac-access@mac-access.net
 Sent: Wednesday, June 03, 2015 7:12 AM
 Subject: Re: [Mac-Access]: Ladies  Gentlemen, We Are Back!
 
 This does not work. I did not receive any authentication message.
 Barbara
 
 On Jun 2, 2015, at 11:14 AM, Gordon Smith gor...@mac-access.net wrote:
 
 hello
 
 Please just take a moment to modify or cancel your subscription; we added 
 you all in bulk as you expressed a wish to remain part of the groups, or at 
 the very least, you did not express a wish not to be part of the group.
 
 To cancel your membership, please write to:
 mac-access-le...@mac-access.net
 that will cause an authentication message to be sent to you.  Please just 
 respond to is as indicated in the message and you’re done.
 
 Thank you.
 
 
 
 My compliments and kindest regards
 Gordon Smith:
 gor...@mac-access.net
 
 Accessibility  Information Technology Support Specialist.
 
 
 
 
 
 
 On 24 May 2015, at 12:43, sadam ahmed sadamahmed1...@icloud.com wrote:
 
 Hi Gordon, 
 
 I am writing this email to ask you to remove me from this list. 
 
 If you could remove me as soon as possible it would be greatly appreciated. 
 
 Best wishes, 
 
 Sadam Ahmed 
 
 Email: 
 
 sadamahmed1...@icloud.com 
 
 Sent from my iPhone. 
 
 -- 
 
 
 
 On 24 May 2015, at 7:38 pm, Jackie Brown thebrownspl...@btinternet.com 
 wrote:
 
 Hello Gordon
 
 Could I ask you to remove me from your groups please as I have enough Email 
 traffic to be getting on with.  Since your server recovery, I am now 
 receiving messages from you that I don't want to be subscribed to.
 
 Many thanks, and good luck.
 
 
 Kind Regards,
 
 Jackie Brown
 Emails: thebrownspl...@btinternet.com
 jackieannbrow...@gmail.com
 jac...@thebrownsplace.info
 Check out my website: www.thebrownsplace.info
 Read my EyeWrite blog: www.thebrownsplace.info/?page_id=136
 Follow me on Twitter: @thebrownsplace
 Skype: thejackmate
 
 -Original Message-
 From: Gordon Smith [mailto:gor...@mac-access.net] 
 Sent: 24 May 2015 10:27
 To: Mac OSX  iOS Accessibility
 Subject: [Mac-Access]: Ladies  Gentlemen, We Are Back!
 
 Good Sunday to all
 
 We should now be back in business as a group, although I have some tweaking 
 still to do.  But I hope you’re all well, and receive our call.
 
 Please don’t send “I am here’, or “I see you” to the group.  We just want 
 life to resume from where it left off.
 
 Let’s just say we’ve had a spectacular server crash from which we couldn’t 
 recover.  So we were forced to make a transition, ready or not!
 
 Kindest regards
 
 Gordon
 
 
 
 
 
 
 



Re: [Mac-Access]: Ladies Gentlemen, We Are Back!

2015-06-03 Thread Marianne Robbins
I used this link, but it bounced as undeliverable


 On Jun 3, 2015, at 10:38 AM, barbara jones jone...@comcast.net wrote:
 
 Thanks christ. I am trying that link.
 Barbara
 
 On Jun 3, 2015, at 7:20 AM, Christopher-Mark Gilland clgillan...@gmail.com 
 mailto:clgillan...@gmail.com wrote:
 
 Nor did I.
  
 Gordon did say though, if it doesn't work, let him know, so let's all 
 bombard him and lettem know.  I'm normally not that much of an ass, but this 
 is ridiculous.
  
 gor...@mac-access.net mailto:gor...@mac-access.net
  
 Chris.
  
 - Original Message -
 From: barbara jones mailto:jone...@comcast.net
 To: mac-access@mac-access.net mailto:mac-access@mac-access.net
 Sent: Wednesday, June 03, 2015 7:12 AM
 Subject: Re: [Mac-Access]: Ladies  Gentlemen, We Are Back!
 
 This does not work. I did not receive any authentication message.
 Barbara
 
 On Jun 2, 2015, at 11:14 AM, Gordon Smith gor...@mac-access.net 
 mailto:gor...@mac-access.net wrote:
 
 hello
 
 Please just take a moment to modify or cancel your subscription; we added 
 you all in bulk as you expressed a wish to remain part of the groups, or at 
 the very least, you did not express a wish not to be part of the group.
 
 To cancel your membership, please write to:
 mac-access-le...@mac-access.net mailto:mac-access-le...@mac-access.net
 that will cause an authentication message to be sent to you.  Please just 
 respond to is as indicated in the message and you’re done.
 
 Thank you.
 
 
 
 My compliments and kindest regards
 Gordon Smith:
 gor...@mac-access.net mailto:gor...@mac-access.net
 
 Accessibility  Information Technology Support Specialist.
 
 
 
 
 
 
 On 24 May 2015, at 12:43, sadam ahmed sadamahmed1...@icloud.com 
 mailto:sadamahmed1...@icloud.com wrote:
 
 Hi Gordon, 
 
 I am writing this email to ask you to remove me from this list. 
 
 If you could remove me as soon as possible it would be greatly appreciated. 
 
 Best wishes, 
 
 Sadam Ahmed 
 
 Email: 
 
 sadamahmed1...@icloud.com mailto:sadamahmed1...@icloud.com 
 
 Sent from my iPhone. 
 
 -- 
 
 
 
 On 24 May 2015, at 7:38 pm, Jackie Brown thebrownspl...@btinternet.com 
 mailto:thebrownspl...@btinternet.com wrote:
 
 Hello Gordon
 
 Could I ask you to remove me from your groups please as I have enough 
 Email traffic to be getting on with.  Since your server recovery, I am now 
 receiving messages from you that I don't want to be subscribed to.
 
 Many thanks, and good luck.
 
 
 Kind Regards,
 
 Jackie Brown
 Emails: thebrownspl...@btinternet.com 
 mailto:thebrownspl...@btinternet.com
 jackieannbrow...@gmail.com mailto:jackieannbrow...@gmail.com
 jac...@thebrownsplace.info mailto:jac...@thebrownsplace.info
 Check out my website: www.thebrownsplace.info 
 http://www.thebrownsplace.info/
 Read my EyeWrite blog: www.thebrownsplace.info/?page_id=136 
 http://www.thebrownsplace.info/?page_id=136
 Follow me on Twitter: @thebrownsplace
 Skype: thejackmate
 
 -Original Message-
 From: Gordon Smith [mailto:gor...@mac-access.net 
 mailto:gor...@mac-access.net] 
 Sent: 24 May 2015 10:27
 To: Mac OSX  iOS Accessibility
 Subject: [Mac-Access]: Ladies  Gentlemen, We Are Back!
 
 Good Sunday to all
 
 We should now be back in business as a group, although I have some 
 tweaking still to do.  But I hope you’re all well, and receive our call.
 
 Please don’t send “I am here’, or “I see you” to the group.  We just want 
 life to resume from where it left off.
 
 Let’s just say we’ve had a spectacular server crash from which we couldn’t 
 recover.  So we were forced to make a transition, ready or not!
 
 Kindest regards
 
 Gordon
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 



RE: [Mac-Access]: Re: Stop The Tests, Please

2015-06-02 Thread Jackie Brown
I agree with you Chris.  Regardless of your personal situation Lynn - for
which we are all sorry - the best and proper thing to do is close down the
server until you are all in a position to run things efficiently again in
the future.  This is not fair to those of us who no longer want to receive
mail, and who can't seem to unsubscribe or remove themselves from your clan.
It is clear you have major issues, but please don't inflict them on anyone
who wants out!

Kind Regards,

Jackie Brown
Emails: thebrownspl...@btinternet.com
jackieannbrow...@gmail.com
jac...@thebrownsplace.info
Check out my website: www.thebrownsplace.info
Read my EyeWrite blog: www.thebrownsplace.info/?page_id=136
Follow me on Twitter: @thebrownsplace
Skype: thejackmate

-Original Message-
From: Christopher-Mark Gilland [mailto:clgillan...@gmail.com] 
Sent: 01 June 2015 20:10
To: mac-access@mac-access.net
Subject: Re: [Mac-Access]: Re: Stop The Tests, Please

Lynn, if the method has changed, then for God sake, can you please tell us
how to do it?  I'm sorry for Gordon's situation, and I very genuinely hope
he's OK, but this has been going on before Friday.  Actually since last
Tuesday or so.  Have you not been seeing all the people who want to leave? 
I'm not asking you to remove me nor them, as you got too much on your plate
for that now, but mercy gracious! is it that much work to just tell us how
to do it ourselves since it's obviously changed?  It's not even at the
bottom of the footers.

Lynne, I have lots of respect for you and Gordon, and I've taken my concerns
off list with you all before, but now I'm going public, as frankly, this is
becoming ridiculous!  You're gonna hate me for saying this, and embarrassing
you on list, but frankly at this point, much as I hate doing this, and this
isn't my normal nature of personality, I must be blunt to say, if you can't
manage a list, and keep people in the loop, then don't!  Bottom line!  I'm
sorry to be so blunt, but I'm getting absolutely sick of this!  I don't hate
you, nor Gordon, don't even? go there! but, come on, who're you kidding. 
You work all day, Gordon is in the hospital, plus, there are other things
you told me about off list confidentially that I won't go into on list, but
lookit.  The point is, I know this list is you all's baby.  Especially
Gordon's, but really.  Do you all have the time to keep running this list on
your own?  I've said time after time again I'd help you all with admin tasks
if you needed me to.  Others too have agreed to help take some the load off
you all, and frankly, the offer still stands as far as I'm concerned, but
look.  Family comes before e-mail lists.  You gotta set your priorities.  I
know you don't like to hear this, but you honestly need to!  Again, I'm not
dismissing that Gordon is hurt, and again, for that, I'm so so sorry.  I
wish there was something on that front I physically could do, so don't think
I'm putting that concern aside.  I'm not.  But there is no shame in cutting
back, asking for help, or saying you know, this just isn't working.

Lynn whether I'm right or not.  Whether I'm out of line sending this or not,
put that aside just for one second.  Let's look at the facts.  This last few
weeks, how many have written the list, uptight in your word or not, leaving
out opinions here from you, Gordon, or others for that mind, just on a
technical level, how many have asked to leave the list.  Damn! I can think
of at least! minimum! 50 or 60.  Compared to all the members you all have,
that might seem insignificant, but trust me, that's a ton! for one and a
half weeks nearly.  I know one thing, if the list I ran started having
members doing that, I'd be slamming on the breaks so hard, you'd not know
what hitcha!  I'd be deathly! concerned to find out what in the sam hill! 
was causing everyone to leave.  Then, if I couldn't deal with it,  dammit,
I'd find someone who could.  Just know, you all don't have to do this alone.

I'm still offerring for you all to get ahold of me off list, if you want me
to help you all in any way with the list until things get back to normal
around there, but A, you gotta be willing to speak up, as I can't read your
mind.  And B, being I've offered before, this is my final offerring.  Past
this point, if turned down, I won't be offerring again.  Case closed.

You knwo where to find me.

clgillan...@gmail.com

Again, none of this is meant in any! bad malice, but really Lynn, seriously!

Think about it.  OK, I mean really? really, think about it!

Chris.

- Original Message -
From: Gordon Smith gor...@mac-access.net
To: mac-access@mac-access.net
Sent: Monday, June 01, 2015 2:23 PM
Subject: [Mac-Access]: Re: Stop The Tests, Please


Hello Angela, Christopher and all

This is Lynne, using the only address we currently have active which just 
happens to be Gordon's.

Please don't get uptight about this, all. The method of joining/leaving the 
group has changed anyway. When he's up and about again, 

Re: [Mac-Access]: Skype and VO Activity With Conference Calling/skypeout.

2015-06-02 Thread Tom Jones
Thanks bunches.  Really appreciate it. 
 On Jun 2, 2015, at 12:20 PM, Sarah k Alawami marri...@gmail.com wrote:
 
 Hello. to add anyone to a conference from the chat window type
 /add username
 
 For example
 
 /add ke7zum
 
 this username is fake, don't do it. Once you type that in hit enter and the 
 name will be added. This should work with phone numbers to. If you want to 
 kick someone type
 /kick username
 and hit enter.
 On Jun 2, 2015, at 6:07 AM, Tom Jones tomljo...@earthlink.net wrote:
 
 Hi, Folks,
 
 I understand the concept of incoming conferences”, but, despite being able 
 to get another call started with, say, skypeout, the process needed to 
 “merge” the previous skype contact with the current call” has found a way to 
 hide on me.  Any help in resolving this would be much appreciated.  
 Oh, if anyone wishes to practice this, once I understand/master it is 
 welcome.  My skype name is, simply, “tomljones”.  Thanks, in advance.
 
 
 
 To post messages to this group, please use the following address:
 mac-access@mac-access.net
 To leave the group, please post a blank message to:
 mac-access-le...@mac-access.net
 If, at a later time, you wish to rejoin the group, please subscribe by 
 posting to:
 mac-access-j...@mac-access.net
 
 To enable/disable Digest mode, please post to:
 mac-access-dig...@mac-access.net
 
 Please remember to keep your subscriber options current.  We are not 
 responsible should things go amiss when, for example, you change E-Mail 
 addresses.
 
 
 



To post messages to this group, please use the following address:
mac-access@mac-access.net
To leave the group, please post a blank message to:
mac-access-le...@mac-access.net
If, at a later time, you wish to rejoin the group, please subscribe by posting 
to:
mac-access-j...@mac-access.net

To enable/disable Digest mode, please post to:
mac-access-dig...@mac-access.net

Please remember to keep your subscriber options current.  We are not 
responsible should things go amiss when, for example, you change E-Mail 
addresses.





Re: [Mac-Access]: Skype and VO Activity With Conference Calling/skypeout.

2015-06-02 Thread Sarah k Alawami
I normally don't respond to thanks as it is against IRC rules and I'm old.  
Anyway, before you thank me for good try the phone number as I'm not sure if 
that will in fact work. You might have to put the +1 or what ever it is outside 
the USA.
 On Jun 2, 2015, at 11:54 AM, Tom Jones tomljo...@earthlink.net wrote:
 
 Thanks bunches.  Really appreciate it. 
 On Jun 2, 2015, at 12:20 PM, Sarah k Alawami marri...@gmail.com wrote:
 
 Hello. to add anyone to a conference from the chat window type
 /add username
 
 For example
 
 /add ke7zum
 
 this username is fake, don't do it. Once you type that in hit enter and the 
 name will be added. This should work with phone numbers to. If you want to 
 kick someone type
 /kick username
 and hit enter.
 On Jun 2, 2015, at 6:07 AM, Tom Jones tomljo...@earthlink.net wrote:
 
 Hi, Folks,
 
 I understand the concept of incoming conferences”, but, despite being able 
 to get another call started with, say, skypeout, the process needed to 
 “merge” the previous skype contact with the current call” has found a way 
 to hide on me.  Any help in resolving this would be much appreciated.  
 Oh, if anyone wishes to practice this, once I understand/master it is 
 welcome.  My skype name is, simply, “tomljones”.  Thanks, in advance.
 
 
 
 To post messages to this group, please use the following address:
 mac-access@mac-access.net
 To leave the group, please post a blank message to:
 mac-access-le...@mac-access.net
 If, at a later time, you wish to rejoin the group, please subscribe by 
 posting to:
 mac-access-j...@mac-access.net
 
 To enable/disable Digest mode, please post to:
 mac-access-dig...@mac-access.net
 
 Please remember to keep your subscriber options current.  We are not 
 responsible should things go amiss when, for example, you change E-Mail 
 addresses.
 
 
 
 
 
 
 To post messages to this group, please use the following address:
 mac-access@mac-access.net
 To leave the group, please post a blank message to:
 mac-access-le...@mac-access.net
 If, at a later time, you wish to rejoin the group, please subscribe by 
 posting to:
 mac-access-j...@mac-access.net
 
 To enable/disable Digest mode, please post to:
 mac-access-dig...@mac-access.net
 
 Please remember to keep your subscriber options current.  We are not 
 responsible should things go amiss when, for example, you change E-Mail 
 addresses.
 
 
 



To post messages to this group, please use the following address:
mac-access@mac-access.net
To leave the group, please post a blank message to:
mac-access-le...@mac-access.net
If, at a later time, you wish to rejoin the group, please subscribe by posting 
to:
mac-access-j...@mac-access.net

To enable/disable Digest mode, please post to:
mac-access-dig...@mac-access.net

Please remember to keep your subscriber options current.  We are not 
responsible should things go amiss when, for example, you change E-Mail 
addresses.





Re: [Mac-Access]: Ladies Gentlemen, We Are Back!

2015-06-02 Thread Christopher-Mark Gilland
That would be awesome, if that method worked, but over here at least, it 
doesn't seem to be.  I wasn't going to leave, but I wanted to at least see if I 
got the confirmation message, which then I was simply going to ignore.  That 
message never came.  In fact, the result was, my initial e-mail requesting to 
leave bounced, as usual.  What else is new.

Chris.

  - Original Message - 
  From: Gordon Smith 
  To: mac-access@mac-access.net 
  Sent: Tuesday, June 02, 2015 11:14 AM
  Subject: Re: [Mac-Access]: Ladies  Gentlemen, We Are Back!


  hello


  Please just take a moment to modify or cancel your subscription; we added you 
all in bulk as you expressed a wish to remain part of the groups, or at the 
very least, you did not express a wish not to be part of the group.


  To cancel your membership, please write to:
  mac-access-le...@mac-access.net
  that will cause an authentication message to be sent to you.  Please just 
respond to is as indicated in the message and you’re done.


  Thank you.


  


  My compliments and kindest regards
  Gordon Smith:
  gor...@mac-access.net


  Accessibility  Information Technology Support Specialist.


  







  On 24 May 2015, at 12:43, sadam ahmed sadamahmed1...@icloud.com wrote:


  Hi Gordon, 


  I am writing this email to ask you to remove me from this list. 


  If you could remove me as soon as possible it would be greatly appreciated. 


  Best wishes, 


  Sadam Ahmed 


  Email: 


  sadamahmed1...@icloud.com 


  Sent from my iPhone. 


  -- 





  On 24 May 2015, at 7:38 pm, Jackie Brown thebrownspl...@btinternet.com 
wrote:


Hello Gordon

Could I ask you to remove me from your groups please as I have enough Email 
traffic to be getting on with.  Since your server recovery, I am now receiving 
messages from you that I don't want to be subscribed to.

Many thanks, and good luck.


Kind Regards,

Jackie Brown
Emails: thebrownspl...@btinternet.com
jackieannbrow...@gmail.com
jac...@thebrownsplace.info
Check out my website: www.thebrownsplace.info
Read my EyeWrite blog: www.thebrownsplace.info/?page_id=136
Follow me on Twitter: @thebrownsplace
Skype: thejackmate

-Original Message-
From: Gordon Smith [mailto:gor...@mac-access.net] 
Sent: 24 May 2015 10:27
To: Mac OSX  iOS Accessibility
Subject: [Mac-Access]: Ladies  Gentlemen, We Are Back!

Good Sunday to all

We should now be back in business as a group, although I have some tweaking 
still to do.  But I hope you’re all well, and receive our call.

Please don’t send “I am here’, or “I see you” to the group.  We just want 
life to resume from where it left off.

Let’s just say we’ve had a spectacular server crash from which we couldn’t 
recover.  So we were forced to make a transition, ready or not!

Kindest regards

Gordon








Re: [Mac-Access]: FW: DLIST: Welcome to the mac-access@mac-access.net list.

2015-06-02 Thread Christopher-Mark Gilland
What about www.mac-access.net going to your mail server page and not the 
maihn home page?


And, what ever happened to supp...@mac-access.net

Finally, why earlier when you initially sey said a week or so ago that you 
all were back, why didn't you provide the unsubscribe info then right up 
front?  Mostly, why didn't you add that address to the footers of all 
messages like you all had done before?


Chris.

- Original Message - 
From: Gordon Smith gor...@mac-access.net

To: mac-access@mac-access.net
Sent: Tuesday, June 02, 2015 1:52 PM
Subject: Re: [Mac-Access]: FW: DLIST: Welcome to the 
mac-access@mac-access.net list.



Hello David

If, as it seems there may be, there is a problem with the server, can I 
request that people please use gor...@mac-access.net, and let me know that 
they wish to be removed.  If the command isn’t working, (and I shall test it 
out), then clearly something is set wrong.  However, I’d appreciate it if 
people would please keep a civil tongue in their head.  I’d also appreciate 
people keeping in mind that they expressed a wish to be ported over and, as 
a result, they were ported over.


If people have now changed their minds, that’s fine.  But don’t start 
yelling and screaming at me.  I’m much more likely to try and help somebody 
who is civl and polite, than somebody who goes off the deep end.  I’ve had a 
few like that today and, if I get any more, somebody’s going to get both 
barrels!


As for you, David, if you now wish to be unsubscribed, if you tried to 
remove yourself and it didn’t work, please do me the courtesy of contacting 
me off list.  Same goes for anybody else.  And I will do what I can to help.


However, finally, keep in mind that the command set has changed with the 
introduction of a ew server.  So, if you wish to leave, please send a blank 
message to:


mac-access-le...@mac-access.net
that should, and I use the word guardedly, should, do the trick.  I shall 
test it now.




My compliments and kindest regards
Gordon Smith:
gor...@mac-access.net

Accessibility  Information Technology Support Specialist.






On 27 May 2015, at 11:42, David Griffith d.griff...@btinternet.com wrote:

I have again followed these instruction completely as laid out,   and I am
getting no response from the server telling me that I am unsubscribed.
If this message appears it has again not worked.

David Griffith

-Original Message-
From: Robert Hill [mailto:molliesda...@comcast.net]
Sent: 27 May 2015 10:40
To: mac-access@mac-access.net
Subject: [Mac-Access]: FW: DLIST: Welcome to the mac-access@mac-access.net
list.

Hi all,

I'm forwarding the help commands list I received yesterday after poking
around.

I don't know if it will be helpful or not, but here it is.


Bob


- Forwarded Message -
From:  mac-access-requ...@mac-access.net
To:  molliesda...@comcast.net
CC:
Date: Tuesday, May 26, 2015 11:59 am
Subject: DLIST: Welcome to the mac-access@mac-access.net list.




This email message gives you important information about using
this list - please save it for future reference.

There are two parts to this file the first short part is on how
to SEND MAIL to the list, the second is on how to send COMMANDS
to the list.  If you lose this file then you can get the same
information again by sending a HELP command to the list manager
as is shown below.


SENDING MAIL TO THE LIST


To send a message to all mac-access@mac-access.net list members, use a

message

with the following form:

--
  From: Peter Rabbit pe...@netwin.co.nz
To: mac-access@mac-access.net
   Subject: PROBLEM WITH LOADING PRODUCT

   Can anybody help me unzip my file?
--


===
===

SENDING COMMANDS TO THE LIST



All of the following sections deal with how to send a command to
the list.  You have already done this if you subscribed to the
list yourself.

Commands are written in the BODY of a normal email message. The
email message is then sent to the list manager's special email
address:
  mac-access-requ...@mac-access.net

The list manager controls who belongs to the list and what options
you as a subscriber have set.  The list manager has no ego so
please feel free to send messages whenever you l... :com)



Leaving the list (unsubscribing)


To stop receiving messages from the mac-access@mac-access.net list you

will

need to send a message to the list manager.  For example:

--
  From: Peter Rabbit pe...@netwin.co.nz
To: mac-access-requ...@mac-access.net
   Subject: not needed

   unsubscribe

RE: [Mac-Access]: Re: Stop The Tests, Please

2015-06-02 Thread David Griffith
I agree also that unfortunately this list needs to be closed until it can be
properly managed. The chaos of the events over the last week are
unprecedented in my experience.
Clearly Gordon is not in a position to respond to list problems so a
temporary closure seems most fair to the large numbers who are experiencing
problems and complaining about their inability to unsubscribe.

When domestic circumstances permit I suggest a one off email shot inviting a
renewal of subscription with clear valid unsubscribe information appended
would be the best way forward.

David Griffith


David Griffith

-Original Message-
From: Jackie Brown [mailto:thebrownspl...@btinternet.com] 
Sent: 02 June 2015 09:21
To: mac-access@mac-access.net
Subject: RE: [Mac-Access]: Re: Stop The Tests, Please

I agree with you Chris.  Regardless of your personal situation Lynn - for
which we are all sorry - the best and proper thing to do is close down the
server until you are all in a position to run things efficiently again in
the future.  This is not fair to those of us who no longer want to receive
mail, and who can't seem to unsubscribe or remove themselves from your clan.
It is clear you have major issues, but please don't inflict them on anyone
who wants out!

Kind Regards,

Jackie Brown
Emails: thebrownspl...@btinternet.com
jackieannbrow...@gmail.com
jac...@thebrownsplace.info
Check out my website: www.thebrownsplace.info
Read my EyeWrite blog: www.thebrownsplace.info/?page_id=136
Follow me on Twitter: @thebrownsplace
Skype: thejackmate

-Original Message-
From: Christopher-Mark Gilland [mailto:clgillan...@gmail.com] 
Sent: 01 June 2015 20:10
To: mac-access@mac-access.net
Subject: Re: [Mac-Access]: Re: Stop The Tests, Please

Lynn, if the method has changed, then for God sake, can you please tell us
how to do it?  I'm sorry for Gordon's situation, and I very genuinely hope
he's OK, but this has been going on before Friday.  Actually since last
Tuesday or so.  Have you not been seeing all the people who want to leave? 
I'm not asking you to remove me nor them, as you got too much on your plate
for that now, but mercy gracious! is it that much work to just tell us how
to do it ourselves since it's obviously changed?  It's not even at the
bottom of the footers.

Lynne, I have lots of respect for you and Gordon, and I've taken my concerns
off list with you all before, but now I'm going public, as frankly, this is
becoming ridiculous!  You're gonna hate me for saying this, and embarrassing
you on list, but frankly at this point, much as I hate doing this, and this
isn't my normal nature of personality, I must be blunt to say, if you can't
manage a list, and keep people in the loop, then don't!  Bottom line!  I'm
sorry to be so blunt, but I'm getting absolutely sick of this!  I don't hate
you, nor Gordon, don't even? go there! but, come on, who're you kidding. 
You work all day, Gordon is in the hospital, plus, there are other things
you told me about off list confidentially that I won't go into on list, but
lookit.  The point is, I know this list is you all's baby.  Especially
Gordon's, but really.  Do you all have the time to keep running this list on
your own?  I've said time after time again I'd help you all with admin tasks
if you needed me to.  Others too have agreed to help take some the load off
you all, and frankly, the offer still stands as far as I'm concerned, but
look.  Family comes before e-mail lists.  You gotta set your priorities.  I
know you don't like to hear this, but you honestly need to!  Again, I'm not
dismissing that Gordon is hurt, and again, for that, I'm so so sorry.  I
wish there was something on that front I physically could do, so don't think
I'm putting that concern aside.  I'm not.  But there is no shame in cutting
back, asking for help, or saying you know, this just isn't working.

Lynn whether I'm right or not.  Whether I'm out of line sending this or not,
put that aside just for one second.  Let's look at the facts.  This last few
weeks, how many have written the list, uptight in your word or not, leaving
out opinions here from you, Gordon, or others for that mind, just on a
technical level, how many have asked to leave the list.  Damn! I can think
of at least! minimum! 50 or 60.  Compared to all the members you all have,
that might seem insignificant, but trust me, that's a ton! for one and a
half weeks nearly.  I know one thing, if the list I ran started having
members doing that, I'd be slamming on the breaks so hard, you'd not know
what hitcha!  I'd be deathly! concerned to find out what in the sam hill! 
was causing everyone to leave.  Then, if I couldn't deal with it,  dammit,
I'd find someone who could.  Just know, you all don't have to do this alone.

I'm still offerring for you all to get ahold of me off list, if you want me
to help you all in any way with the list until things get back to normal
around there, but A, you gotta be willing to speak up, as I can't read your
mind.  

[Mac-Access]: Skype and VO Activity With Conference Calling/skypeout.

2015-06-02 Thread Tom Jones
Hi, Folks,

I understand the concept of incoming conferences”, but, despite being able to 
get another call started with, say, skypeout, the process needed to “merge” the 
previous skype contact with the current call” has found a way to hide on me.  
Any help in resolving this would be much appreciated.  
Oh, if anyone wishes to practice this, once I understand/master it is welcome.  
My skype name is, simply, “tomljones”.  Thanks, in advance.


Re: [Mac-Access]: Ladies Gentlemen, We Are Back!

2015-06-02 Thread Gordon Smith
hello

Please just take a moment to modify or cancel your subscription; we added you 
all in bulk as you expressed a wish to remain part of the groups, or at the 
very least, you did not express a wish not to be part of the group.

To cancel your membership, please write to:
mac-access-le...@mac-access.net mailto:mac-access-le...@mac-access.net
that will cause an authentication message to be sent to you.  Please just 
respond to is as indicated in the message and you’re done.

Thank you.



My compliments and kindest regards
Gordon Smith:
gor...@mac-access.net mailto:gor...@mac-access.net

Accessibility  Information Technology Support Specialist.






On 24 May 2015, at 12:43, sadam ahmed sadamahmed1...@icloud.com wrote:

Hi Gordon, 

I am writing this email to ask you to remove me from this list. 

If you could remove me as soon as possible it would be greatly appreciated. 

Best wishes, 

Sadam Ahmed 

Email: 

sadamahmed1...@icloud.com mailto:sadamahmed1...@icloud.com 

Sent from my iPhone. 

-- 



On 24 May 2015, at 7:38 pm, Jackie Brown thebrownspl...@btinternet.com 
mailto:thebrownspl...@btinternet.com wrote:

 Hello Gordon
 
 Could I ask you to remove me from your groups please as I have enough Email 
 traffic to be getting on with.  Since your server recovery, I am now 
 receiving messages from you that I don't want to be subscribed to.
 
 Many thanks, and good luck.
 
 
 Kind Regards,
 
 Jackie Brown
 Emails: thebrownspl...@btinternet.com mailto:thebrownspl...@btinternet.com
 jackieannbrow...@gmail.com mailto:jackieannbrow...@gmail.com
 jac...@thebrownsplace.info mailto:jac...@thebrownsplace.info
 Check out my website: www.thebrownsplace.info 
 http://www.thebrownsplace.info/
 Read my EyeWrite blog: www.thebrownsplace.info/?page_id=136 
 http://www.thebrownsplace.info/?page_id=136
 Follow me on Twitter: @thebrownsplace
 Skype: thejackmate
 
 -Original Message-
 From: Gordon Smith [mailto:gor...@mac-access.net 
 mailto:gor...@mac-access.net] 
 Sent: 24 May 2015 10:27
 To: Mac OSX  iOS Accessibility
 Subject: [Mac-Access]: Ladies  Gentlemen, We Are Back!
 
 Good Sunday to all
 
 We should now be back in business as a group, although I have some tweaking 
 still to do.  But I hope you’re all well, and receive our call.
 
 Please don’t send “I am here’, or “I see you” to the group.  We just want 
 life to resume from where it left off.
 
 Let’s just say we’ve had a spectacular server crash from which we couldn’t 
 recover.  So we were forced to make a transition, ready or not!
 
 Kindest regards
 
 Gordon
 
 
 
 



Re: [Mac-Access]: Skype and VO Activity With Conference Calling/skypeout.

2015-06-02 Thread Sarah k Alawami
Hello. to add anyone to a conference from the chat window type
/add username

For example

/add ke7zum

this username is fake, don't do it. Once you type that in hit enter and the 
name will be added. This should work with phone numbers to. If you want to kick 
someone type
/kick username
and hit enter.
 On Jun 2, 2015, at 6:07 AM, Tom Jones tomljo...@earthlink.net wrote:
 
 Hi, Folks,
 
 I understand the concept of incoming conferences”, but, despite being able 
 to get another call started with, say, skypeout, the process needed to 
 “merge” the previous skype contact with the current call” has found a way to 
 hide on me.  Any help in resolving this would be much appreciated.  
 Oh, if anyone wishes to practice this, once I understand/master it is 
 welcome.  My skype name is, simply, “tomljones”.  Thanks, in advance.



To post messages to this group, please use the following address:
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mac-access-le...@mac-access.net
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[Mac-Access]: Re: Stop The Tests, Please

2015-06-01 Thread Gordon Smith
Hello Angela, Christopher and all

This is Lynne, using the only address we currently have active which just 
happens to be Gordon’s.

Please don’t get uptight about this, all. The method of joining/leaving the 
group has changed anyway. When he’s up and about again, Gordon will update the 
mailing list section on our website. He’s currently hospitalised due to a road 
accident on Friday.

Meanwhile, if you have headers visible,  I suggest you examine the contents of 
messages posted to the group. Just a little self-help here would go a long way. 
:)

If you don’t, unfortunately I can’t help you. When he comes home I will make 
sure that Gordon does the update quickly as he can.

Warmest regards

Lynne




Re: [Mac-Access]: Re: Stop The Tests, Please

2015-06-01 Thread Christopher-Mark Gilland
Lynn, if the method has changed, then for God sake, can you please tell us 
how to do it?  I'm sorry for Gordon's situation, and I very genuinely hope 
he's OK, but this has been going on before Friday.  Actually since last 
Tuesday or so.  Have you not been seeing all the people who want to leave? 
I'm not asking you to remove me nor them, as you got too much on your plate 
for that now, but mercy gracious! is it that much work to just tell us how 
to do it ourselves since it's obviously changed?  It's not even at the 
bottom of the footers.


Lynne, I have lots of respect for you and Gordon, and I've taken my concerns 
off list with you all before, but now I'm going public, as frankly, this is 
becoming ridiculous!  You're gonna hate me for saying this, and embarrassing 
you on list, but frankly at this point, much as I hate doing this, and this 
isn't my normal nature of personality, I must be blunt to say, if you can't 
manage a list, and keep people in the loop, then don't!  Bottom line!  I'm 
sorry to be so blunt, but I'm getting absolutely sick of this!  I don't hate 
you, nor Gordon, don't even? go there! but, come on, who're you kidding. 
You work all day, Gordon is in the hospital, plus, there are other things 
you told me about off list confidentially that I won't go into on list, but 
lookit.  The point is, I know this list is you all's baby.  Especially 
Gordon's, but really.  Do you all have the time to keep running this list on 
your own?  I've said time after time again I'd help you all with admin tasks 
if you needed me to.  Others too have agreed to help take some the load off 
you all, and frankly, the offer still stands as far as I'm concerned, but 
look.  Family comes before e-mail lists.  You gotta set your priorities.  I 
know you don't like to hear this, but you honestly need to!  Again, I'm not 
dismissing that Gordon is hurt, and again, for that, I'm so so sorry.  I 
wish there was something on that front I physically could do, so don't think 
I'm putting that concern aside.  I'm not.  But there is no shame in cutting 
back, asking for help, or saying you know, this just isn't working.


Lynn whether I'm right or not.  Whether I'm out of line sending this or not, 
put that aside just for one second.  Let's look at the facts.  This last few 
weeks, how many have written the list, uptight in your word or not, leaving 
out opinions here from you, Gordon, or others for that mind, just on a 
technical level, how many have asked to leave the list.  Damn! I can think 
of at least! minimum! 50 or 60.  Compared to all the members you all have, 
that might seem insignificant, but trust me, that's a ton! for one and a 
half weeks nearly.  I know one thing, if the list I ran started having 
members doing that, I'd be slamming on the breaks so hard, you'd not know 
what hitcha!  I'd be deathly! concerned to find out what in the sam hill! 
was causing everyone to leave.  Then, if I couldn't deal with it,  dammit, 
I'd find someone who could.  Just know, you all don't have to do this alone. 
I'm still offerring for you all to get ahold of me off list, if you want me 
to help you all in any way with the list until things get back to normal 
around there, but A, you gotta be willing to speak up, as I can't read your 
mind.  And B, being I've offered before, this is my final offerring.  Past 
this point, if turned down, I won't be offerring again.  Case closed.


You knwo where to find me.

clgillan...@gmail.com

Again, none of this is meant in any! bad malice, but really Lynn, seriously! 
Think about it.  OK, I mean really? really, think about it!


Chris.

- Original Message - 
From: Gordon Smith gor...@mac-access.net

To: mac-access@mac-access.net
Sent: Monday, June 01, 2015 2:23 PM
Subject: [Mac-Access]: Re: Stop The Tests, Please


Hello Angela, Christopher and all

This is Lynne, using the only address we currently have active which just 
happens to be Gordon’s.


Please don’t get uptight about this, all. The method of joining/leaving the 
group has changed anyway. When he’s up and about again, Gordon will update 
the mailing list section on our website. He’s currently hospitalised due to 
a road accident on Friday.


Meanwhile, if you have headers visible,  I suggest you examine the contents 
of messages posted to the group. Just a little self-help here would go a 
long way. :)


If you don’t, unfortunately I can’t help you. When he comes home I will make 
sure that Gordon does the update quickly as he can.


Warmest regards

Lynne





RE: [Mac-Access]: Re: Stop The Tests, Please

2015-06-01 Thread Roger Firman
Dear Lynne,

Thanks for your message.

I'm not quite sure which email address is the one working for you.

I've tried sending you a message to the address from where your message
seemed to originate, however, it looks not to be accepting messages.

I'm sure we all would wish Gordon a quick recovery so please do wish him
well.

Best wishes,

Roger.

-Original Message-
From: Gordon Smith [mailto:gor...@mac-access.net] 
Sent: 01 June 2015 19:24
To: mac-access@mac-access.net
Subject: [Mac-Access]: Re: Stop The Tests, Please

Hello Angela, Christopher and all

This is Lynne, using the only address we currently have active which just
happens to be Gordon's.

Please don't get uptight about this, all. The method of joining/leaving the
group has changed anyway. When he's up and about again, Gordon will update
the mailing list section on our website. He's currently hospitalised due to
a road accident on Friday.

Meanwhile, if you have headers visible,  I suggest you examine the contents
of messages posted to the group. Just a little self-help here would go a
long way. :)

If you don't, unfortunately I can't help you. When he comes home I will make
sure that Gordon does the update quickly as he can.

Warmest regards

Lynne






[Mac-Access]: Burning a CD on iMac

2015-05-31 Thread Paul Hopewell
Hello, 
I am running the latest Mac OS 10.10.3 on my iMac. I need to burn several 
copies of a CD containing some radio programs. 

SO I first completely erased the contents of a re-writable CD (or maybe it was 
a DVD). I then copied the required MP3 files into a folder and went to the 
context menu for that folder. I chose the burn option and the MP3 files were 
written to the CD. this CD played correctly in the CD player on my music centre 
and it also played correctly in the CD player of one of my contacts but did not 
play in the CD players of my other contacts. 

This may be because the re-writable CD was in fact a re-writable DVD which then 
plays in some CD players but does not play in other CD players. 

Is there any way I can tell whether the re-writable optical disk is a CD or a 
DVD? If it is a DVD can I somehow reformat it so that it becomes a CD? 

If it is a CD how can I burn it so that it plays in all CD players, some of 
which are several years old? 

Many thanks for any tips.

Paul Hopewell 


[Mac-Access]: Unsubscribe

2015-05-31 Thread Lorraine Palomino


Sent from my iPhone



Re: [Mac-Access]: an odd issue with vm I can't solve

2015-05-29 Thread Kevin Fjelsted
I just tested with the latest Vmware, Fusion latest Yosemite and JAWS and had 
no problem moving by word in a notepad file holding down ctrl-left arrow, or 
ctrl-right arrow.

I can do this with voiceover on or off.
I could install NVDA and try that if you think that would make a difference?
I am using the keyboard programs Karabiner, and Seil, to remap VO to capslock 
and permit the caps lock to be the JAWS key on non-numeric pad keyboards.

-Kevin

 On May 29, 2015, at 4:18 AM, Sarah k Alawami marri...@gmail.com wrote:
 
 I'm sending this again as my email bounced. 
 
 ,Actually through further testing I determinained it is a mac keyboard driver 
 issue either vmware or apple will have to fix. This problem has been plaging 
 me for months now. 
 
 Btw all you had to do was add the .ogg extension to the end of the file. Here 
 is the file again from my db. Hope it helps. and hope that either vmware or 
 apple can fix this annoying issue.
 
 https://www.dropbox.com/s/81q54o2hhf098q4/odd%20driver%20issue.ogg?dl=0 
 https://www.dropbox.com/s/81q54o2hhf098q4/odd%20driver%20issue.ogg?dl=0
 
 On May 28, 2015, at 10:10 PM, Joseph Hudson jhud7...@outlook.com 
 mailto:jhud7...@outlook.com wrote:
 
 Hi, I try clicking the file and it says empty HTML content whenever I click 
 on the link interact what the site. It's a which means I'm unable to play 
 the file. Maybe you might be better off assisting our getting assistance 
 from somebody via Skype.
 Joseph Hudson
 I device support
 Email
 jhud7...@gmail.com mailto:jhud7...@gmail.com
 Face time and iMessage
 jhud7...@yahoo.com mailto:jhud7...@yahoo.com
 Office phone
 641-715-3900 x34315
 Emergency line
 641-715-3900 x5887652
 Skype
 joseph.hudson89
 
 On May 28, 2015, at 11:16 PM, Sarah k Alawami marri...@gmail.com 
 mailto:marri...@gmail.com wrote:
 
 I get the feeling someone will have to write me off list as I'm not sure if 
 this is a driver issue, or a vmware issue
 
 I basically can't use control left right to read by word. I'm running 
 vmware 7. and I tested all the keyboard profiles to see which one might be 
 the issue but don't really know what to do from here.
 
 Take care and here's the issue in audio form. You will see what I mean by 
 writing me off list when you hear the file.
 
 http://t.co/9eEBZmR2qb http://t.co/9eEBZmR2qb 
 
 



Re: [Mac-Access]: an odd issue with vm I can't solve

2015-05-29 Thread Sarah k Alawami
I'm sending this again as my email bounced. 

,Actually through further testing I determinained it is a mac keyboard driver 
issue either vmware or apple will have to fix. This problem has been plaging me 
for months now. 

Btw all you had to do was add the .ogg extension to the end of the file. Here 
is the file again from my db. Hope it helps. and hope that either vmware or 
apple can fix this annoying issue.

https://www.dropbox.com/s/81q54o2hhf098q4/odd%20driver%20issue.ogg?dl=0 
https://www.dropbox.com/s/81q54o2hhf098q4/odd%20driver%20issue.ogg?dl=0

 On May 28, 2015, at 10:10 PM, Joseph Hudson jhud7...@outlook.com wrote:
 
 Hi, I try clicking the file and it says empty HTML content whenever I click 
 on the link interact what the site. It's a which means I'm unable to play the 
 file. Maybe you might be better off assisting our getting assistance from 
 somebody via Skype.
 Joseph Hudson
 I device support
 Email
 jhud7...@gmail.com mailto:jhud7...@gmail.com
 Face time and iMessage
 jhud7...@yahoo.com mailto:jhud7...@yahoo.com
 Office phone
 641-715-3900 x34315
 Emergency line
 641-715-3900 x5887652
 Skype
 joseph.hudson89
 
 On May 28, 2015, at 11:16 PM, Sarah k Alawami marri...@gmail.com 
 mailto:marri...@gmail.com wrote:
 
 I get the feeling someone will have to write me off list as I'm not sure if 
 this is a driver issue, or a vmware issue
 
 I basically can't use control left right to read by word. I'm running vmware 
 7. and I tested all the keyboard profiles to see which one might be the 
 issue but don't really know what to do from here.
 
 Take care and here's the issue in audio form. You will see what I mean by 
 writing me off list when you hear the file.
 
 http://t.co/9eEBZmR2qb http://t.co/9eEBZmR2qb 
 



Re: [Mac-Access]: an odd issue with vm I can't solve

2015-05-29 Thread RATTRAY J.
hi,

good luck not something I have experienced but can imagine how frustrating it 
must have been
Dr Julie Rattray
Lecturer in Psychology and Education
University of durham
School of Education
Leazes Road
DURHAM
DH1 1TA

Tel: 0191 33 48249
Email: julie.ratt...@durham.ac.ukmailto:julie.ratt...@durham.ac.uk



On 29 May 2015, at 10:18, Sarah k Alawami 
marri...@gmail.commailto:marri...@gmail.com wrote:

I'm sending this again as my email bounced.

,Actually through further testing I determinained it is a mac keyboard driver 
issue either vmware or apple will have to fix. This problem has been plaging me 
for months now.

Btw all you had to do was add the .ogg extension to the end of the file. Here 
is the file again from my db. Hope it helps. and hope that either vmware or 
apple can fix this annoying issue.

https://www.dropbox.com/s/81q54o2hhf098q4/odd%20driver%20issue.ogg?dl=0
On May 28, 2015, at 10:10 PM, Joseph Hudson 
jhud7...@outlook.commailto:jhud7...@outlook.com wrote:

Hi, I try clicking the file and it says empty HTML content whenever I click on 
the link interact what the site. It's a which means I'm unable to play the 
file. Maybe you might be better off assisting our getting assistance from 
somebody via Skype.
Joseph Hudson
I device support
Email
jhud7...@gmail.commailto:jhud7...@gmail.com
Face time and iMessage
jhud7...@yahoo.commailto:jhud7...@yahoo.com
Office phone
641-715-3900 x34315
Emergency line
641-715-3900 x5887652
Skype
joseph.hudson89

On May 28, 2015, at 11:16 PM, Sarah k Alawami 
marri...@gmail.commailto:marri...@gmail.com wrote:

I get the feeling someone will have to write me off list as I'm not sure if 
this is a driver issue, or a vmware issue

I basically can't use control left right to read by word. I'm running vmware 7. 
and I tested all the keyboard profiles to see which one might be the issue but 
don't really know what to do from here.

Take care and here's the issue in audio form. You will see what I mean by 
writing me off list when you hear the file.

http://t.co/9eEBZmR2qb





Re: [Mac-Access]: an odd issue with vm I can't solve

2015-05-29 Thread Sarah k Alawami
Hmm I use sharp keys but yeah this started happening a few months ago and even 
a reinstall of vmware does not help, which leades me to believe that some how 
this is a driver issue.  I don't use any other key mapping software.
 On May 29, 2015, at 3:55 AM, Kevin Fjelsted kevin.fjels...@bharrisinc.com 
 wrote:
 
 I just tested with the latest Vmware, Fusion latest Yosemite and JAWS and had 
 no problem moving by word in a notepad file holding down ctrl-left arrow, or 
 ctrl-right arrow.
 
 I can do this with voiceover on or off.
 I could install NVDA and try that if you think that would make a difference?
 I am using the keyboard programs Karabiner, and Seil, to remap VO to capslock 
 and permit the caps lock to be the JAWS key on non-numeric pad keyboards.
 
 -Kevin
 
 On May 29, 2015, at 4:18 AM, Sarah k Alawami marri...@gmail.com 
 mailto:marri...@gmail.com wrote:
 
 I'm sending this again as my email bounced. 
 
 ,Actually through further testing I determinained it is a mac keyboard 
 driver issue either vmware or apple will have to fix. This problem has been 
 plaging me for months now. 
 
 Btw all you had to do was add the .ogg extension to the end of the file. 
 Here is the file again from my db. Hope it helps. and hope that either 
 vmware or apple can fix this annoying issue.
 
 https://www.dropbox.com/s/81q54o2hhf098q4/odd%20driver%20issue.ogg?dl=0 
 https://www.dropbox.com/s/81q54o2hhf098q4/odd%20driver%20issue.ogg?dl=0
 
 On May 28, 2015, at 10:10 PM, Joseph Hudson jhud7...@outlook.com 
 mailto:jhud7...@outlook.com wrote:
 
 Hi, I try clicking the file and it says empty HTML content whenever I click 
 on the link interact what the site. It's a which means I'm unable to play 
 the file. Maybe you might be better off assisting our getting assistance 
 from somebody via Skype.
 Joseph Hudson
 I device support
 Email
 jhud7...@gmail.com mailto:jhud7...@gmail.com
 Face time and iMessage
 jhud7...@yahoo.com mailto:jhud7...@yahoo.com
 Office phone
 641-715-3900 x34315
 Emergency line
 641-715-3900 x5887652
 Skype
 joseph.hudson89
 
 On May 28, 2015, at 11:16 PM, Sarah k Alawami marri...@gmail.com 
 mailto:marri...@gmail.com wrote:
 
 I get the feeling someone will have to write me off list as I'm not sure 
 if this is a driver issue, or a vmware issue
 
 I basically can't use control left right to read by word. I'm running 
 vmware 7. and I tested all the keyboard profiles to see which one might be 
 the issue but don't really know what to do from here.
 
 Take care and here's the issue in audio form. You will see what I mean by 
 writing me off list when you hear the file.
 
 http://t.co/9eEBZmR2qb http://t.co/9eEBZmR2qb 
 
 
 



Re: [Mac-Access]: an odd issue with vm I can't solve

2015-05-28 Thread Joseph Hudson
Hi, I try clicking the file and it says empty HTML content whenever I click on 
the link interact what the site. It's a which means I'm unable to play the 
file. Maybe you might be better off assisting our getting assistance from 
somebody via Skype.
Joseph Hudson
I device support
Email
jhud7...@gmail.com mailto:jhud7...@gmail.com
Face time and iMessage
jhud7...@yahoo.com mailto:jhud7...@yahoo.com
Office phone
641-715-3900 x34315
Emergency line
641-715-3900 x5887652
Skype
joseph.hudson89

 On May 28, 2015, at 11:16 PM, Sarah k Alawami marri...@gmail.com wrote:
 
 I get the feeling someone will have to write me off list as I'm not sure if 
 this is a driver issue, or a vmware issue
 
 I basically can't use control left right to read by word. I'm running vmware 
 7. and I tested all the keyboard profiles to see which one might be the issue 
 but don't really know what to do from here.
 
 Take care and here's the issue in audio form. You will see what I mean by 
 writing me off list when you hear the file.
 
 http://t.co/9eEBZmR2qb 



[Mac-Access]: an odd issue with vm I can't solve

2015-05-28 Thread Sarah k Alawami
I get the feeling someone will have to write me off list as I'm not sure if 
this is a driver issue, or a vmware issue

I basically can't use control left right to read by word. I'm running vmware 7. 
and I tested all the keyboard profiles to see which one might be the issue but 
don't really know what to do from here.

Take care and here's the issue in audio form. You will see what I mean by 
writing me off list when you hear the file.

http://t.co/9eEBZmR2qb 


Re: [Mac-Access]: Re: [Mac-Access)': [Mac-Access)': test

2015-05-27 Thread blind man
yeah, I can’t seem to unsubscribe using that address either. it’s rather a pain 
as I’m getting too much list traffic here.
To be fair, the list has been helpful, but right now, I’m finding it rather 
annoying.

 On 27 May 2015, at 18:41, Robert Hill molliesda...@comcast.net wrote:
 
 That sure is a puzzle, about why it doesn't work for everyone.
 It seems like it's easier to subscribe than unsubscribe for some reason.
 
 Bob
 
 
 - Original Message -
 From: Eleanor Martha Burke eleanormarthabu...@gmail.com
 To:  mac-access@mac-access.net
 CC: 
 Date: Wednesday, May 27, 2015 4:40 am
 Subject: Re: [Mac-Access)': Re: [Mac-Access)': test
 
 
 
 Thanks Bob I do agree ininsmile*.  I had tested your unsubscribe suggestion 
 though the reality is that I wish to retain my membership.  Like others it 
 did not work for me. Thankfully I do not have the problems others are having 
 of multiple copies of each mail, just the one.
 
 Eleanor
 - Original Message - 
 From: Robert Hill molliesda...@comcast.net
 To: mac-access@mac-access.net
 Sent: Wednesday, May 27, 2015 9:30 AM
 Subject: [Mac-Access)': Re: [Mac-Access)': test
 
 
 Hi Eleanor,
 
 Your email arrived just fine here.
 Seems like we've gone from deluge to drought regarding messages.
 
 Bob Hill
 
 
 - Original Message -
 From: Eleanor Martha Burke eleanormarthabu...@gmail.com
 To:  mac-access@mac-access.net
 CC:
 Date: Wednesday, May 27, 2015 4:18 am
 Subject: [Mac-Access)': test
 
 
 
 checking to see if I have unsubscribed. checking to see if I have a ride 
 perhaps somebody could respond please.
 
 
 
 
 
 Sent from Bob's Braille Sense U2
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 Sent from Bob's Braille Sense U2 
 




Re: [Mac-Access]: test

2015-05-27 Thread Pauline Lawler
Hello, you are still on the list.



Pauline LawlerSent from my iPhone

On 27 May 2015, at 10:35, Angela Delicata angeladelic...@email.it wrote:

still this list, I'm so tired!


Il 27/05/2015 10:18, Eleanor Martha Burke ha scritto:
 checking to see if I have unsubscribed. checking to see if I have a ride 
 perhaps somebody could respond please.
 
 
 
 
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Re: [Mac-Access]: test

2015-05-27 Thread Angela Delicata

still this list, I'm so tired!


Il 27/05/2015 10:18, Eleanor Martha Burke ha scritto:

checking to see if I have unsubscribed. checking to see if I have a ride 
perhaps somebody could respond please.







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[Mac-Access]: Re: [Mac-Access)': [Mac-Access)': test

2015-05-27 Thread Robert Hill
That sure is a puzzle, about why it doesn't work for everyone.
It seems like it's easier to subscribe than unsubscribe for some reason.

Bob


- Original Message -
From: Eleanor Martha Burke eleanormarthabu...@gmail.com
To:  mac-access@mac-access.net
CC: 
Date: Wednesday, May 27, 2015 4:40 am
Subject: Re: [Mac-Access)': Re: [Mac-Access)': test



 Thanks Bob I do agree ininsmile*.  I had tested your unsubscribe suggestion 
 though the reality is that I wish to retain my membership.  Like others it 
 did not work for me. Thankfully I do not have the problems others are having 
 of multiple copies of each mail, just the one.
 
 Eleanor
 - Original Message - 
 From: Robert Hill molliesda...@comcast.net
 To: mac-access@mac-access.net
 Sent: Wednesday, May 27, 2015 9:30 AM
 Subject: [Mac-Access)': Re: [Mac-Access)': test
 
 
 Hi Eleanor,

 Your email arrived just fine here.
 Seems like we've gone from deluge to drought regarding messages.

 Bob Hill


 - Original Message -
 From: Eleanor Martha Burke eleanormarthabu...@gmail.com
 To:  mac-access@mac-access.net
 CC:
 Date: Wednesday, May 27, 2015 4:18 am
 Subject: [Mac-Access)': test



 checking to see if I have unsubscribed. checking to see if I have a ride 
 perhaps somebody could respond please.





 Sent from Bob's Braille Sense U2

 
 
 
 


Sent from Bob's Braille Sense U2 



Re: [Mac-Access]: test

2015-05-27 Thread Eleanor Martha Burke
I am still here!



 On 27 May 2015, at 09:18, Eleanor Martha Burke eleanormarthabu...@gmail.com 
 wrote:
 
 checking to see if I have unsubscribed. checking to see if I have a ride 
 perhaps somebody could respond please.
 
 
 



[Mac-Access]: FW: DLIST: Welcome to the mac-access@mac-access.net list.

2015-05-27 Thread Robert Hill
Hi all,

I'm forwarding the help commands list I received yesterday after poking around.

I don't know if it will be helpful or not, but here it is.


Bob


- Forwarded Message -
From:  mac-access-requ...@mac-access.net
To:  molliesda...@comcast.net
CC: 
Date: Tuesday, May 26, 2015 11:59 am
Subject: DLIST: Welcome to the mac-access@mac-access.net list.



 This email message gives you important information about using
 this list - please save it for future reference.
 
 There are two parts to this file the first short part is on how 
 to SEND MAIL to the list, the second is on how to send COMMANDS 
 to the list.  If you lose this file then you can get the same 
 information again by sending a HELP command to the list manager 
 as is shown below.
 
 
 SENDING MAIL TO THE LIST
 
 
 To send a message to all mac-access@mac-access.net list members, use a message
 with the following form:
 
  --
From: Peter Rabbit pe...@netwin.co.nz
  To: mac-access@mac-access.net
 Subject: PROBLEM WITH LOADING PRODUCT
 
 Can anybody help me unzip my file?
  --
 
 
 ===
 ===
 
 SENDING COMMANDS TO THE LIST
 
 
 
 All of the following sections deal with how to send a command to 
 the list.  You have already done this if you subscribed to the 
 list yourself. 
 
 Commands are written in the BODY of a normal email message. The 
 email message is then sent to the list manager's special email 
 address:
mac-access-requ...@mac-access.net
  
 The list manager controls who belongs to the list and what options
 you as a subscriber have set.  The list manager has no ego so 
 please feel free to send messages whenever you l... :com)
 
 
 
 Leaving the list (unsubscribing)
 
 
 To stop receiving messages from the mac-access@mac-access.net list you will 
 need to send a message to the list manager.  For example:
 
  --
From: Peter Rabbit pe...@netwin.co.nz
  To: mac-access-requ...@mac-access.net
 Subject: not needed
 
 unsubscribe
  --
 
 If you are still getting messages after you have received a 
 message saying you are no longer a member of this list, it could 
 be that you are subscribed by a different email address.  Send
 a 'who' request to the mac-access-requ...@mac-access.net address and find your
 old name, then send an unsubscribe request like this:
  --
From: Peter Rabbit pe...@netwin.co.nz
  To: mac-access-requ...@mac-access.net
 Subject: not needed
 
 unsubscribe molliesda...@comcast.net
  --
 
 
 Who Command 
 =
 (Seeing who else is on this list)
 
 If you would like a list of all the email addresses of people on 
 the mac-access@mac-access.net list then you can send the WHO command 
 to the list manager.  Here is an example:
 
 --
From: Peter Rabbit pe...@netwin.co.nz
  To: mac-access-requ...@mac-access.net
 Subject: (anything)
 
 who
 --
 You will then receive an email message listing all the members, 
 however this command is not always available.
 
 
 Lists Command 
 =
 (Finding out what other lists are available on this server)
 
 If you would like a list of all the lists (just trying to confuse
 you there) which are run by the server that is handling this list 
 then you can send the LISTS command to the list manager.  Here 
 is how:
 
 --
From: Peter Rabbit pe...@netwin.co.nz
  To: mac-access-requ...@mac-access.net
 Subject: not needed
 
 lists
 --
 
 
 Requesting Files
 
 
 This list has a set of files associated with it.  These files may
 for example contain new software releases, or be an archive of 
 recent messages to the list etc.  The list server provides two 
 commands to allow you to collect these file: DIR and GET
 If you wish to obtain a list of all the files associated with 
 this list, send the following message to the list manager:
 
 --
From: Peter Rabbit pe...@netwin.co.nz
  To: mac-access-requ...@mac-access.net
 Subject: not needed
 
 dir
 --
 
 Now you know the names of the files, you can request 

Re: [Mac-Access]: Re: [Mac-Access)': [Mac-Access)': test

2015-05-27 Thread Angela Delicata

Please, dear robert, help me to unsubscribe.
Thanks in advance.
Angela from Italy


Il 27/05/2015 11:11, Robert Hill ha scritto:

That sure is a puzzle, about why it doesn't work for everyone.
It seems like it's easier to subscribe than unsubscribe for some reason.

Bob


- Original Message -
From: Eleanor Martha Burke eleanormarthabu...@gmail.com
To:  mac-access@mac-access.net
CC:
Date: Wednesday, May 27, 2015 4:40 am
Subject: Re: [Mac-Access)': Re: [Mac-Access)': test




Thanks Bob I do agree ininsmile*.  I had tested your unsubscribe suggestion
though the reality is that I wish to retain my membership.  Like others it
did not work for me. Thankfully I do not have the problems others are having
of multiple copies of each mail, just the one.

Eleanor
- Original Message -
From: Robert Hill molliesda...@comcast.net
To: mac-access@mac-access.net
Sent: Wednesday, May 27, 2015 9:30 AM
Subject: [Mac-Access)': Re: [Mac-Access)': test


Hi Eleanor,

Your email arrived just fine here.
Seems like we've gone from deluge to drought regarding messages.

Bob Hill


- Original Message -
From: Eleanor Martha Burke eleanormarthabu...@gmail.com
To:  mac-access@mac-access.net
CC:
Date: Wednesday, May 27, 2015 4:18 am
Subject: [Mac-Access)': test




checking to see if I have unsubscribed. checking to see if I have a ride
perhaps somebody could respond please.






Sent from Bob's Braille Sense U2








Sent from Bob's Braille Sense U2





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[Mac-Access]: test

2015-05-27 Thread Eleanor Martha Burke
checking to see if I have unsubscribed. checking to see if I have a ride 
perhaps somebody could respond please.





Re: [Mac-Access]: Re: [Mac-Access)': test

2015-05-27 Thread Eleanor Martha Burke
Thanks Bob I do agree *smile*.  I had tested your unsubscribe suggestion 
though the reality is that I wish to retain my membership.  Like others it 
did not work for me. Thankfully I do not have the problems others are having 
of multiple copies of each mail, just the one.


Eleanor
- Original Message - 
From: Robert Hill molliesda...@comcast.net

To: mac-access@mac-access.net
Sent: Wednesday, May 27, 2015 9:30 AM
Subject: [Mac-Access]: Re: [Mac-Access)': test



Hi Eleanor,

Your email arrived just fine here.
Seems like we've gone from deluge to drought regarding messages.

Bob Hill


- Original Message -
From: Eleanor Martha Burke eleanormarthabu...@gmail.com
To:  mac-access@mac-access.net
CC:
Date: Wednesday, May 27, 2015 4:18 am
Subject: [Mac-Access)': test




checking to see if I have unsubscribed. checking to see if I have a ride 
perhaps somebody could respond please.







Sent from Bob's Braille Sense U2







[Mac-Access]: Fwd: DLIST: Welcome to the mac-access@mac-access.net list.

2015-05-27 Thread Bob Hill
Hi all,

I apologize if this comes through twice, but didn’t see it being sent.

Bob Hill


 Begin forwarded message:
 
 From: mac-access-requ...@mac-access.net
 Subject: DLIST: Welcome to the mac-access@mac-access.net list.
 Date: May 26, 2015 at 11:19:59 AM EDT
 To: molliesda...@comcast.net
 
 This email message gives you important information about using
 this list - please save it for future reference.
 
 There are two parts to this file the first short part is on how 
 to SEND MAIL to the list, the second is on how to send COMMANDS 
 to the list.  If you lose this file then you can get the same 
 information again by sending a HELP command to the list manager 
 as is shown below.
 
 
 SENDING MAIL TO THE LIST
 
 
 To send a message to all mac-access@mac-access.net list members, use a message
 with the following form:
 
 --
   From: Peter Rabbit pe...@netwin.co.nz
 To: mac-access@mac-access.net
Subject: PROBLEM WITH LOADING PRODUCT
 
Can anybody help me unzip my file?
 --
 
 
 ===
 ===
 
 SENDING COMMANDS TO THE LIST
 
 
 
 All of the following sections deal with how to send a command to 
 the list.  You have already done this if you subscribed to the 
 list yourself. 
 
 Commands are written in the BODY of a normal email message. The 
 email message is then sent to the list manager's special email 
 address:
   mac-access-requ...@mac-access.net
 
 The list manager controls who belongs to the list and what options
 you as a subscriber have set.  The list manager has no ego so 
 please feel free to send messages whenever you like... :-)
 
 
 
 Leaving the list (unsubscribing)
 
 
 To stop receiving messages from the mac-access@mac-access.net list you will 
 need to send a message to the list manager.  For example:
 
 --
   From: Peter Rabbit pe...@netwin.co.nz
 To: mac-access-requ...@mac-access.net
Subject: not needed
 
unsubscribe
 --
 
 If you are still getting messages after you have received a 
 message saying you are no longer a member of this list, it could 
 be that you are subscribed by a different email address.  Send
 a 'who' request to the mac-access-requ...@mac-access.net address and find your
 old name, then send an unsubscribe request like this:
 --
   From: Peter Rabbit pe...@netwin.co.nz
 To: mac-access-requ...@mac-access.net
Subject: not needed
 
unsubscribe molliesda...@comcast.net
 --
 
 
 Who Command 
 =
 (Seeing who else is on this list)
 
 If you would like a list of all the email addresses of people on 
 the mac-access@mac-access.net list then you can send the WHO command 
 to the list manager.  Here is an example:
 
 --
   From: Peter Rabbit pe...@netwin.co.nz
 To: mac-access-requ...@mac-access.net
Subject: (anything)
 
who
 --
 You will then receive an email message listing all the members, 
 however this command is not always available.
 
 
 Lists Command 
 =
 (Finding out what other lists are available on this server)
 
 If you would like a list of all the lists (just trying to confuse
 you there) which are run by the server that is handling this list 
 then you can send the LISTS command to the list manager.  Here 
 is how:
 
 --
   From: Peter Rabbit pe...@netwin.co.nz
 To: mac-access-requ...@mac-access.net
Subject: not needed
 
lists
 --
 
 
 Requesting Files
 
 
 This list has a set of files associated with it.  These files may
 for example contain new software releases, or be an archive of 
 recent messages to the list etc.  The list server provides two 
 commands to allow you to collect these file: DIR and GET
 If you wish to obtain a list of all the files associated with 
 this list, send the following message to the list manager:
 
 --
   From: Peter Rabbit pe...@netwin.co.nz
 To: mac-access-requ...@mac-access.net
Subject: not needed
 
dir
 --
 
 Now you know the names of the files, you can request one or more 
 to be sent to you using the GET command. This command has 
 the following syntax:
 
 

RE: [Mac-Access]: FW: DLIST: Welcome to the mac-access@mac-access.net list.

2015-05-27 Thread David Griffith
I have again followed these instruction completely as laid out,   and I am
getting no response from the server telling me that I am unsubscribed.
If this message appears it has again not worked.

David Griffith 

-Original Message-
From: Robert Hill [mailto:molliesda...@comcast.net] 
Sent: 27 May 2015 10:40
To: mac-access@mac-access.net
Subject: [Mac-Access]: FW: DLIST: Welcome to the mac-access@mac-access.net
list.

Hi all,

I'm forwarding the help commands list I received yesterday after poking
around.

I don't know if it will be helpful or not, but here it is.


Bob


- Forwarded Message -
From:  mac-access-requ...@mac-access.net
To:  molliesda...@comcast.net
CC: 
Date: Tuesday, May 26, 2015 11:59 am
Subject: DLIST: Welcome to the mac-access@mac-access.net list.



 This email message gives you important information about using
 this list - please save it for future reference.
 
 There are two parts to this file the first short part is on how 
 to SEND MAIL to the list, the second is on how to send COMMANDS 
 to the list.  If you lose this file then you can get the same 
 information again by sending a HELP command to the list manager 
 as is shown below.
 
 
 SENDING MAIL TO THE LIST
 
 
 To send a message to all mac-access@mac-access.net list members, use a
message
 with the following form:
 
  --
From: Peter Rabbit pe...@netwin.co.nz
  To: mac-access@mac-access.net
 Subject: PROBLEM WITH LOADING PRODUCT
 
 Can anybody help me unzip my file?
  --
 
 
 ===
 ===
 
 SENDING COMMANDS TO THE LIST
 
 
 
 All of the following sections deal with how to send a command to 
 the list.  You have already done this if you subscribed to the 
 list yourself. 
 
 Commands are written in the BODY of a normal email message. The 
 email message is then sent to the list manager's special email 
 address:
mac-access-requ...@mac-access.net
  
 The list manager controls who belongs to the list and what options
 you as a subscriber have set.  The list manager has no ego so 
 please feel free to send messages whenever you l... :com)
 
 
 
 Leaving the list (unsubscribing)
 
 
 To stop receiving messages from the mac-access@mac-access.net list you
will 
 need to send a message to the list manager.  For example:
 
  --
From: Peter Rabbit pe...@netwin.co.nz
  To: mac-access-requ...@mac-access.net
 Subject: not needed
 
 unsubscribe
  --
 
 If you are still getting messages after you have received a 
 message saying you are no longer a member of this list, it could 
 be that you are subscribed by a different email address.  Send
 a 'who' request to the mac-access-requ...@mac-access.net address and find
your
 old name, then send an unsubscribe request like this:
  --
From: Peter Rabbit pe...@netwin.co.nz
  To: mac-access-requ...@mac-access.net
 Subject: not needed
 
 unsubscribe molliesda...@comcast.net
  --
 
 
 Who Command 
 =
 (Seeing who else is on this list)
 
 If you would like a list of all the email addresses of people on 
 the mac-access@mac-access.net list then you can send the WHO command 
 to the list manager.  Here is an example:
 
 --
From: Peter Rabbit pe...@netwin.co.nz
  To: mac-access-requ...@mac-access.net
 Subject: (anything)
 
 who
 --
 You will then receive an email message listing all the members, 
 however this command is not always available.
 
 
 Lists Command 
 =
 (Finding out what other lists are available on this server)
 
 If you would like a list of all the lists (just trying to confuse
 you there) which are run by the server that is handling this list 
 then you can send the LISTS command to the list manager.  Here 
 is how:
 
 --
From: Peter Rabbit pe...@netwin.co.nz
  To: mac-access-requ...@mac-access.net
 Subject: not needed
 
 lists
 --
 
 
 Requesting Files
 
 
 This list has a set of files associated with it.  These files may
 for example contain new software releases, or be an archive of 
 recent messages to the list etc.  The list server provides two 
 commands to allow you to collect these file: DIR and GET
 If you 

[Mac-Access]: Re: [Mac-Access)': test

2015-05-27 Thread Robert Hill
Hi Eleanor,

Your email arrived just fine here.
Seems like we've gone from deluge to drought regarding messages.

Bob Hill


- Original Message -
From: Eleanor Martha Burke eleanormarthabu...@gmail.com
To:  mac-access@mac-access.net
CC: 
Date: Wednesday, May 27, 2015 4:18 am
Subject: [Mac-Access)': test



 checking to see if I have unsubscribed. checking to see if I have a ride 
 perhaps somebody could respond please.
 
 
 
 

Sent from Bob's Braille Sense U2 



Re: [Mac-Access]: test

2015-05-27 Thread Christopher-Mark Gilland

Nope?

Sorry to be the barer of bad news.

Chris.

- Original Message - 
From: Eleanor Martha Burke eleanormarthabu...@gmail.com

To: OS X  iOS Accessibility mac-access@mac-access.net
Sent: Wednesday, May 27, 2015 4:18 AM
Subject: [Mac-Access]: test


checking to see if I have unsubscribed. checking to see if I have a ride 
perhaps somebody could respond please.







Re: [Mac-Access]: Re: [Mac-Access)': I would like to un subscribed from this list

2015-05-27 Thread Christopher-Mark Gilland

Gotcha.

Chris.

- Original Message - 
From: David Griffith d.griff...@btinternet.com

To: mac-access@mac-access.net
Sent: Wednesday, May 27, 2015 3:52 AM
Subject: RE: [Mac-Access]: Re: [Mac-Access)': I would like to un subscribed 
from this list




It has not worked.

I have tried this method and the other address posted twice but I am still
here.

David Griffith

-Original Message-
From: Christopher-Mark Gilland [mailto:clgillan...@gmail.com]
Sent: 27 May 2015 01:22
To: mac-access@mac-access.net
Subject: Re: [Mac-Access]: Re: [Mac-Access)': I would like to un 
subscribed

from this list

That's exactly what I suggested people do all along!

Did it not work, or did people just simply not listen to me when I tried
helping!

Makes ya wonder.

Chris.

- Original Message - 
From: Robert Hill molliesda...@comcast.net

To: mac-access@mac-access.net
Sent: Tuesday, May 26, 2015 12:13 PM
Subject: [Mac-Access]: Re: [Mac-Access)': I would like to un subscribed 
from


this list



Hello everyone,

Well, maybe things are getting more toward normal or something, but I was
able to use the following procedure to unsubscribe, and resubscribe this
morning.

Send an email message as follows:

mac-access-requ...@mac-access.net

Leave the subject blank.

In the message body put the word unsubscribe (without the quotation
marks)

That should get you unsubscribed.

If you want a list of commands that you can use send an email to the 
above



address, and in the body of the message put help without the quotes.

Bob Hill

which
- Original Message -
From: jazzyjennifer jwens2...@gmail.com
To:  mac-access@mac-access.net
CC:
Date: Tuesday, May 26, 2015 11:59 am
Subject: Re: [Mac-Access)': I would like to un subscribed from this list




yeah usely there is links with the list, at the end of the email like it
will say how to un subscribe, then there will be an email for un
subscribeing. and all them email links are missing at the end of each
messege of tis group.

On 5/26/2015 11:09 AM, David Griffith wrote:
Unfortunately it appears, fairly bizarrely, that nobody is listening or
watching the list.
Perhaps somebody who knows Gordon personally can get in touch with him,
or at least Lynne to try and get the list pulled until it can be
resurrected in proper form with only those who want to be on the list
participating.
in the meantime there is clearly no point in people adding to list
traffic with unsubscribe request.

David Griffith

-Original Message-
From: Danny Mathis [mailto:danny.mat...@gmail.com]
Sent: 26 May 2015 15:09
To: mac-access@mac-access.net
Subject: Re: [Mac-Access)': i would like to un subscribed from this list

I to want unsubscribed from this list.  Both of my macs are sold.  I
do not nor want an IPCbi'hone ever.  So please remove me from this list.
yes, I am an android user team android all the way.

On 5/26/15, jazzyjennifer jwens2...@gmail.com wrote:

can someone please un subscribe me from this list. i would do it. but
there is no links at the bottom of emails of links on this email list.

-
my skype is jwens1000 and when adding me to skype, please mention where
you
found me at, other wize you will not be added.

twidder is jwens1000

and for those of you dice world players out there my dice world is
jazzyjen.
i play everything except ballot.








-
my skype is jwens1000 and when adding me to skype, please mention where
you found me at, other wize you will not be added.

twidder is jwens1000

and for those of you dice world players out there my dice world is
jazzyjen.
i play everything except ballot.





Sent from Bob's Braille Sense U2











Re: [Mac-Access]: Re: [Mac-Access)': [Mac-Access)': test

2015-05-27 Thread Christopher-Mark Gilland
I am not receiving duplicate messages, however that being said, I'm 
undecided at this point if I want to leave.  I will however say though 
undecided, I'm definitely giving unsubscription a serious consideration.


Chris.

- Original Message - 
From: Robert Hill molliesda...@comcast.net

To: mac-access@mac-access.net
Sent: Wednesday, May 27, 2015 5:11 AM
Subject: [Mac-Access]: Re: [Mac-Access)': [Mac-Access)': test



That sure is a puzzle, about why it doesn't work for everyone.
It seems like it's easier to subscribe than unsubscribe for some reason.

Bob


- Original Message -
From: Eleanor Martha Burke eleanormarthabu...@gmail.com
To:  mac-access@mac-access.net
CC:
Date: Wednesday, May 27, 2015 4:40 am
Subject: Re: [Mac-Access)': Re: [Mac-Access)': test




Thanks Bob I do agree ininsmile*.  I had tested your unsubscribe 
suggestion
though the reality is that I wish to retain my membership.  Like others 
it
did not work for me. Thankfully I do not have the problems others are 
having

of multiple copies of each mail, just the one.

Eleanor
- Original Message - 
From: Robert Hill molliesda...@comcast.net

To: mac-access@mac-access.net
Sent: Wednesday, May 27, 2015 9:30 AM
Subject: [Mac-Access)': Re: [Mac-Access)': test


Hi Eleanor,

Your email arrived just fine here.
Seems like we've gone from deluge to drought regarding messages.

Bob Hill


- Original Message -
From: Eleanor Martha Burke eleanormarthabu...@gmail.com
To:  mac-access@mac-access.net
CC:
Date: Wednesday, May 27, 2015 4:18 am
Subject: [Mac-Access)': test




checking to see if I have unsubscribed. checking to see if I have a ride
perhaps somebody could respond please.






Sent from Bob's Braille Sense U2








Sent from Bob's Braille Sense U2






Re: [Mac-Access]: test

2015-05-27 Thread Christopher-Mark Gilland

Angela,

I've written you time and time and time again with some information, 
however, you've not responded, and each time I try reaching out to help you, 
you seem to be ignoring my posts.  I want to help, but I can't, if you're 
not going to let me.


Same goes to Debby who I see from my read request receipt deleted my message 
apparently without even reading it.  I wasn't writing you guys to complain. 
I was writing you to offer some help.


Chris.

- Original Message - 
From: Angela Delicata angeladelic...@email.it

To: mac-access@mac-access.net
Sent: Wednesday, May 27, 2015 5:35 AM
Subject: Re: [Mac-Access]: test



still this list, I'm so tired!


Il 27/05/2015 10:18, Eleanor Martha Burke ha scritto:
checking to see if I have unsubscribed. checking to see if I have a ride 
perhaps somebody could respond please.








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Re: [Mac-Access]: Re: [Mac-Access)': I would like to un subscribed from this list

2015-05-27 Thread Danny Mathis
I have sent an unsubscribe email to the other email address at the
bottom of this list's email.  I am still here and this list fills my
Gmail inbox still.  Not that I mind mac related stuff but I also
belong to the eyes-free list which hammers my inbox enough.

On 5/27/15, David Griffith d.griff...@btinternet.com wrote:
 It has not worked.

 I have tried this method and the other address posted twice but I am still
 here.

 David Griffith

 -Original Message-
 From: Christopher-Mark Gilland [mailto:clgillan...@gmail.com]
 Sent: 27 May 2015 01:22
 To: mac-access@mac-access.net
 Subject: Re: [Mac-Access]: Re: [Mac-Access)': I would like to un subscribed
 from this list

 That's exactly what I suggested people do all along!

 Did it not work, or did people just simply not listen to me when I tried
 helping!

 Makes ya wonder.

 Chris.

 - Original Message -
 From: Robert Hill molliesda...@comcast.net
 To: mac-access@mac-access.net
 Sent: Tuesday, May 26, 2015 12:13 PM
 Subject: [Mac-Access]: Re: [Mac-Access)': I would like to un subscribed
 from

 this list


 Hello everyone,

 Well, maybe things are getting more toward normal or something, but I was

 able to use the following procedure to unsubscribe, and resubscribe this
 morning.

 Send an email message as follows:

 mac-access-requ...@mac-access.net

 Leave the subject blank.

 In the message body put the word unsubscribe (without the quotation
 marks)

 That should get you unsubscribed.

 If you want a list of commands that you can use send an email to the
 above

 address, and in the body of the message put help without the quotes.

 Bob Hill

 which
 - Original Message -
 From: jazzyjennifer jwens2...@gmail.com
 To:  mac-access@mac-access.net
 CC:
 Date: Tuesday, May 26, 2015 11:59 am
 Subject: Re: [Mac-Access)': I would like to un subscribed from this list



 yeah usely there is links with the list, at the end of the email like it
 will say how to un subscribe, then there will be an email for un
 subscribeing. and all them email links are missing at the end of each
 messege of tis group.

 On 5/26/2015 11:09 AM, David Griffith wrote:
 Unfortunately it appears, fairly bizarrely, that nobody is listening or
 watching the list.
 Perhaps somebody who knows Gordon personally can get in touch with him,
 or at least Lynne to try and get the list pulled until it can be
 resurrected in proper form with only those who want to be on the list
 participating.
 in the meantime there is clearly no point in people adding to list
 traffic with unsubscribe request.

 David Griffith

 -Original Message-
 From: Danny Mathis [mailto:danny.mat...@gmail.com]
 Sent: 26 May 2015 15:09
 To: mac-access@mac-access.net
 Subject: Re: [Mac-Access)': i would like to un subscribed from this list

 I to want unsubscribed from this list.  Both of my macs are sold.  I
 do not nor want an IPCbi'hone ever.  So please remove me from this list.
 yes, I am an android user team android all the way.

 On 5/26/15, jazzyjennifer jwens2...@gmail.com wrote:
 can someone please un subscribe me from this list. i would do it. but
 there is no links at the bottom of emails of links on this email list.

 -
 my skype is jwens1000 and when adding me to skype, please mention where

 you
 found me at, other wize you will not be added.

 twidder is jwens1000

 and for those of you dice world players out there my dice world is
 jazzyjen.
 i play everything except ballot.





 -
 my skype is jwens1000 and when adding me to skype, please mention where
 you found me at, other wize you will not be added.

 twidder is jwens1000

 and for those of you dice world players out there my dice world is
 jazzyjen.
 i play everything except ballot.




 Sent from Bob's Braille Sense U2








[Mac-Access]: unsubscribe

2015-05-27 Thread Danny Mathis




Re: [Mac-Access]: Re: [Mac-Access)': I would like to un subscribed from this list

2015-05-27 Thread Christopher-Mark Gilland

You're on the Eyes-Free list?  Oh, poor you!  I'm sorry!

Chris.

- Original Message - 
From: Danny Mathis danny.mat...@gmail.com

To: mac-access@mac-access.net
Sent: Wednesday, May 27, 2015 2:16 PM
Subject: Re: [Mac-Access]: Re: [Mac-Access)': I would like to un subscribed 
from this list




I have sent an unsubscribe email to the other email address at the
bottom of this list's email.  I am still here and this list fills my
Gmail inbox still.  Not that I mind mac related stuff but I also
belong to the eyes-free list which hammers my inbox enough.

On 5/27/15, David Griffith d.griff...@btinternet.com wrote:

It has not worked.

I have tried this method and the other address posted twice but I am 
still

here.

David Griffith

-Original Message-
From: Christopher-Mark Gilland [mailto:clgillan...@gmail.com]
Sent: 27 May 2015 01:22
To: mac-access@mac-access.net
Subject: Re: [Mac-Access]: Re: [Mac-Access)': I would like to un 
subscribed

from this list

That's exactly what I suggested people do all along!

Did it not work, or did people just simply not listen to me when I tried
helping!

Makes ya wonder.

Chris.

- Original Message -
From: Robert Hill molliesda...@comcast.net
To: mac-access@mac-access.net
Sent: Tuesday, May 26, 2015 12:13 PM
Subject: [Mac-Access]: Re: [Mac-Access)': I would like to un subscribed
from

this list



Hello everyone,

Well, maybe things are getting more toward normal or something, but I 
was


able to use the following procedure to unsubscribe, and resubscribe this
morning.

Send an email message as follows:

mac-access-requ...@mac-access.net

Leave the subject blank.

In the message body put the word unsubscribe (without the quotation
marks)

That should get you unsubscribed.

If you want a list of commands that you can use send an email to the
above



address, and in the body of the message put help without the quotes.

Bob Hill

which
- Original Message -
From: jazzyjennifer jwens2...@gmail.com
To:  mac-access@mac-access.net
CC:
Date: Tuesday, May 26, 2015 11:59 am
Subject: Re: [Mac-Access)': I would like to un subscribed from this list




yeah usely there is links with the list, at the end of the email like 
it

will say how to un subscribe, then there will be an email for un
subscribeing. and all them email links are missing at the end of each
messege of tis group.

On 5/26/2015 11:09 AM, David Griffith wrote:
Unfortunately it appears, fairly bizarrely, that nobody is listening or
watching the list.
Perhaps somebody who knows Gordon personally can get in touch with him,
or at least Lynne to try and get the list pulled until it can be
resurrected in proper form with only those who want to be on the list
participating.
in the meantime there is clearly no point in people adding to list
traffic with unsubscribe request.

David Griffith

-Original Message-
From: Danny Mathis [mailto:danny.mat...@gmail.com]
Sent: 26 May 2015 15:09
To: mac-access@mac-access.net
Subject: Re: [Mac-Access)': i would like to un subscribed from this 
list


I to want unsubscribed from this list.  Both of my macs are sold.  I
do not nor want an IPCbi'hone ever.  So please remove me from this 
list.

yes, I am an android user team android all the way.

On 5/26/15, jazzyjennifer jwens2...@gmail.com wrote:

can someone please un subscribe me from this list. i would do it. but
there is no links at the bottom of emails of links on this email list.

-
my skype is jwens1000 and when adding me to skype, please mention 
where


you
found me at, other wize you will not be added.

twidder is jwens1000

and for those of you dice world players out there my dice world is
jazzyjen.
i play everything except ballot.








-
my skype is jwens1000 and when adding me to skype, please mention where
you found me at, other wize you will not be added.

twidder is jwens1000

and for those of you dice world players out there my dice world is
jazzyjen.
i play everything except ballot.





Sent from Bob's Braille Sense U2













RE: [Mac-Access]: Re: [Mac-Access)': I would like to un subscribed from this list

2015-05-27 Thread David Griffith
It has not worked.

I have tried this method and the other address posted twice but I am still
here.

David Griffith

-Original Message-
From: Christopher-Mark Gilland [mailto:clgillan...@gmail.com] 
Sent: 27 May 2015 01:22
To: mac-access@mac-access.net
Subject: Re: [Mac-Access]: Re: [Mac-Access)': I would like to un subscribed
from this list

That's exactly what I suggested people do all along!

Did it not work, or did people just simply not listen to me when I tried 
helping!

Makes ya wonder.

Chris.

- Original Message - 
From: Robert Hill molliesda...@comcast.net
To: mac-access@mac-access.net
Sent: Tuesday, May 26, 2015 12:13 PM
Subject: [Mac-Access]: Re: [Mac-Access)': I would like to un subscribed from

this list


 Hello everyone,

 Well, maybe things are getting more toward normal or something, but I was 
 able to use the following procedure to unsubscribe, and resubscribe this 
 morning.

 Send an email message as follows:

 mac-access-requ...@mac-access.net

 Leave the subject blank.

 In the message body put the word unsubscribe (without the quotation 
 marks)

 That should get you unsubscribed.

 If you want a list of commands that you can use send an email to the above

 address, and in the body of the message put help without the quotes.

 Bob Hill

 which
 - Original Message -
 From: jazzyjennifer jwens2...@gmail.com
 To:  mac-access@mac-access.net
 CC:
 Date: Tuesday, May 26, 2015 11:59 am
 Subject: Re: [Mac-Access)': I would like to un subscribed from this list



 yeah usely there is links with the list, at the end of the email like it
 will say how to un subscribe, then there will be an email for un
 subscribeing. and all them email links are missing at the end of each
 messege of tis group.

 On 5/26/2015 11:09 AM, David Griffith wrote:
 Unfortunately it appears, fairly bizarrely, that nobody is listening or 
 watching the list.
 Perhaps somebody who knows Gordon personally can get in touch with him, 
 or at least Lynne to try and get the list pulled until it can be 
 resurrected in proper form with only those who want to be on the list 
 participating.
 in the meantime there is clearly no point in people adding to list 
 traffic with unsubscribe request.

 David Griffith

 -Original Message-
 From: Danny Mathis [mailto:danny.mat...@gmail.com]
 Sent: 26 May 2015 15:09
 To: mac-access@mac-access.net
 Subject: Re: [Mac-Access)': i would like to un subscribed from this list

 I to want unsubscribed from this list.  Both of my macs are sold.  I
 do not nor want an IPCbi'hone ever.  So please remove me from this list.
 yes, I am an android user team android all the way.

 On 5/26/15, jazzyjennifer jwens2...@gmail.com wrote:
 can someone please un subscribe me from this list. i would do it. but
 there is no links at the bottom of emails of links on this email list.

 -
 my skype is jwens1000 and when adding me to skype, please mention where 
 you
 found me at, other wize you will not be added.

 twidder is jwens1000

 and for those of you dice world players out there my dice world is
 jazzyjen.
 i play everything except ballot.





 -
 my skype is jwens1000 and when adding me to skype, please mention where 
 you found me at, other wize you will not be added.

 twidder is jwens1000

 and for those of you dice world players out there my dice world is 
 jazzyjen.
 i play everything except ballot.




 Sent from Bob's Braille Sense U2
 





Re: [Mac-Access]: Re: [Mac-Access)': I would like to un subscribed from this list

2015-05-26 Thread Christopher-Mark Gilland

That's exactly what I suggested people do all along!

Did it not work, or did people just simply not listen to me when I tried 
helping!


Makes ya wonder.

Chris.

- Original Message - 
From: Robert Hill molliesda...@comcast.net

To: mac-access@mac-access.net
Sent: Tuesday, May 26, 2015 12:13 PM
Subject: [Mac-Access]: Re: [Mac-Access)': I would like to un subscribed from 
this list




Hello everyone,

Well, maybe things are getting more toward normal or something, but I was 
able to use the following procedure to unsubscribe, and resubscribe this 
morning.


Send an email message as follows:

mac-access-requ...@mac-access.net

Leave the subject blank.

In the message body put the word unsubscribe (without the quotation 
marks)


That should get you unsubscribed.

If you want a list of commands that you can use send an email to the above 
address, and in the body of the message put help without the quotes.


Bob Hill

which
- Original Message -
From: jazzyjennifer jwens2...@gmail.com
To:  mac-access@mac-access.net
CC:
Date: Tuesday, May 26, 2015 11:59 am
Subject: Re: [Mac-Access)': I would like to un subscribed from this list




yeah usely there is links with the list, at the end of the email like it
will say how to un subscribe, then there will be an email for un
subscribeing. and all them email links are missing at the end of each
messege of tis group.

On 5/26/2015 11:09 AM, David Griffith wrote:
Unfortunately it appears, fairly bizarrely, that nobody is listening or 
watching the list.
Perhaps somebody who knows Gordon personally can get in touch with him, 
or at least Lynne to try and get the list pulled until it can be 
resurrected in proper form with only those who want to be on the list 
participating.
in the meantime there is clearly no point in people adding to list 
traffic with unsubscribe request.


David Griffith

-Original Message-
From: Danny Mathis [mailto:danny.mat...@gmail.com]
Sent: 26 May 2015 15:09
To: mac-access@mac-access.net
Subject: Re: [Mac-Access)': i would like to un subscribed from this list

I to want unsubscribed from this list.  Both of my macs are sold.  I
do not nor want an IPCbi'hone ever.  So please remove me from this list.
yes, I am an android user team android all the way.

On 5/26/15, jazzyjennifer jwens2...@gmail.com wrote:

can someone please un subscribe me from this list. i would do it. but
there is no links at the bottom of emails of links on this email list.

-
my skype is jwens1000 and when adding me to skype, please mention where 
you

found me at, other wize you will not be added.

twidder is jwens1000

and for those of you dice world players out there my dice world is
jazzyjen.
i play everything except ballot.








-
my skype is jwens1000 and when adding me to skype, please mention where 
you found me at, other wize you will not be added.


twidder is jwens1000

and for those of you dice world players out there my dice world is 
jazzyjen.

i play everything except ballot.





Sent from Bob's Braille Sense U2






Re: [Mac-Access]: i would like to un subscribed from this list

2015-05-26 Thread Christopher-Mark Gilland
Wut?  What're you using then, if not an IPhone?  An Android device?  If so, 
way! cool!


Chris.

- Original Message - 
From: Danny Mathis danny.mat...@gmail.com

To: mac-access@mac-access.net
Sent: Tuesday, May 26, 2015 10:09 AM
Subject: Re: [Mac-Access]: i would like to un subscribed from this list



I to want unsubscribed from this list.  Both of my macs are sold.  I
do not nor want an IPhone ever.  So please remove me from this list.
yes, I am an android user team android all the way.

On 5/26/15, jazzyjennifer jwens2...@gmail.com wrote:

can someone please un subscribe me from this list. i would do it. but
there is no links at the bottom of emails of links on this email list.

--
my skype is jwens1000 and when adding me to skype, please mention where 
you

found me at, other wize you will not be added.

twidder is jwens1000

and for those of you dice world players out there my dice world is
jazzyjen.
i play everything except ballot.










Re: [Mac-Access]: Pages, selecting text across page boundaries

2015-05-26 Thread RATTRAY J.
thanks this is reallyhelpful 
Dr Julie Rattray
Lecturer in Psychology and Education
University of durham
School of Education
Leazes Road 
DURHAM
DH1 1TA

Tel: 0191 33 48249
Email: julie.ratt...@durham.ac.uk



 On 26 May 2015, at 06:52, Anne Robertson a...@anarchie.org.uk wrote:
 
 Hello everyone,
 
 Here is the fix for this problem.
 
 Open a TextEdit document and paste in the following without the quotes:
 
 {
 ^y = yankAndSelect:; //control-y
 ^\@ = setMark:; //control-@
 ^w = deleteToMark:; //control-w
 ^x = { //control-x control-x
 ^x = selectToMark:;
 };
 ^  = setMark:; //control-space
 ~f = moveWordForward:; //option-f
 ~b = moveWordBackward:; //option-b
 }
 
 Save the document as:
 DefaultKeyBinding.dict
 
 You’ll need to change the extension to .dict manually.
 
 Go to your user library by going to the Go menu in Finder and using the VO 
 keys to navigate down to Library.
 Create a folder Called KeyBindings and put the .dict document into it.
 
 From now on, you should be able to select text in any text editing 
 application by pressing Ctrl-Space to mark the beginning of the selection, 
 and Ctrl-x-x to mark the end of the selection. Everything in between will be 
 selected, including page breaks.
 
 Cheers,
 
 Anne
 
 
 



Re: [Mac-Access]: help with pages

2015-05-26 Thread Anne Robertson
Hello Julie,

To find the next comment or change, press Cmd-Option-k and you should land in a 
popover where you can read the comment or change and who did it. You can also 
accept or reject it. If the popover doesn’t come up, try pressing VO-Shift-j.

Cheers,

Anne
 

 On 26 May 2015, at 07:02, RATTRAY J. julie.ratt...@durham.ac.uk wrote:
 
 hi,
 
 one question re pages how do I get voiceover to read track changes and 
 comments - I use pages a lot and for the most part really like it - 
 experienced the same problems as you re selecting text that goes over 
 multiple pages so if Ann could post the solution to that I would love it. But 
 the one thing I can’t seem to get it to do is read comment bubbles or track 
 changes. - actually it does read the changes a bit now as it will read both 
 suggested changes but the comments bubbles I really want it to read
 
 Julie 
 Dr Julie Rattray
 Lecturer in Psychology and Education
 University of durham
 School of Education
 Leazes Road 
 DURHAM
 DH1 1TA
 
 Tel: 0191 33 48249
 Email: julie.ratt...@durham.ac.uk mailto:julie.ratt...@durham.ac.uk
 
 
 
 On 26 May 2015, at 05:47, Sarah k Alawami marri...@gmail.com 
 mailto:marri...@gmail.com wrote:
 
 I think cmd option I shows and hides the inspector. you can change to the 
 formater part in the tool bar by checking the fomater radio button.
 
 I'm normally a longer email sender, but it's pretty late here. so hope this 
 helps for now. 
 
 Take care.
 On May 25, 2015, at 6:44 PM, Margaret Booth margaretebo...@gmail.com 
 mailto:margaretebo...@gmail.com wrote:
 
 Thanks for your help. How do you get to the formatter?
  
 Margaret 
  
 From: Sarah k Alawami [mailto:marri...@gmail.com 
 mailto:marri...@gmail.com] 
 Sent: Tuesday, 26 May 2015 2:59 AM
 To: mac access list iOS Accessibility
 Subject: Re: [Mac-Access]: help with pages
  
 To  use styles you need to do that through the formatter. People keep 
 asking me to do either a written or audio guide on how to use pages. I'm 
 thinking of doing both, but it will take time.
  
 To access the templets after you create a new document is not possible. but 
 you can save your new document as a templet if you customized it. Do this 
 through file then templets.
  
 Take cre.
 On May 24, 2015, at 10:56 PM, Margaret Booth margaretebo...@gmail.com 
 mailto:margaretebo...@gmail.com wrote:
  
 I’m helping a friend of mine to learn how to use Pages on her new Mac Book 
 Air. 
  
 Has anyone got suggestions on where I could find a learners guide on how 
 to use Pages the word processor. 
  
 The other question I have is how do you get to the templates after you 
 have created a new document? Also how to you use styles? 
  
 Margaret
 
 



Re: [Mac-Access]: Pages, selecting text across page boundaries

2015-05-26 Thread Eleanor Martha Burke
I find the information below very confusing as there is a lot of punctuation 
and multiple  signs.  Is it possible to write out this exactly as it should 
be written?  For instance does one put all the spaces also and does one put 
the ;


Eleanor
- Original Message - 
From: Anne Robertson a...@anarchie.org.uk

To: OS X  iOS Accessibility mac-access@mac-access.net
Sent: Tuesday, May 26, 2015 6:52 AM
Subject: [Mac-Access]: Pages, selecting text across page boundaries


Hello everyone,

Here is the fix for this problem.

Open a TextEdit document and paste in the following without the quotes:

{
^y = yankAndSelect:; //control-y
^\@ = setMark:; //control-@
^w = deleteToMark:; //control-w
^x = { //control-x control-x
^x = selectToMark:;
};
^  = setMark:; //control-space
~f = moveWordForward:; //option-f
~b = moveWordBackward:; //option-b
}

Save the document as:
DefaultKeyBinding.dict

You’ll need to change the extension to .dict manually.

Go to your user library by going to the Go menu in Finder and using the VO 
keys to navigate down to Library.

Create a folder Called KeyBindings and put the .dict document into it.

From now on, you should be able to select text in any text editing 
application by pressing Ctrl-Space to mark the beginning of the selection, 
and Ctrl-x-x to mark the end of the selection. Everything in between will be 
selected, including page breaks.


Cheers,

Anne







Re: [Mac-Access]: Pages, selecting text across page boundaries

2015-05-26 Thread Anne Robertson
Hello Eleanor,

I carefully left a blank line before and after the text to be copied into the 
TextEdit document. So all you have to do is select the text after the first 
quotation mark and up to the last quotation mark and copy it to the clipboard, 
then paste it into a TextEdit document.

Cheers,

Anne


 On 26 May 2015, at 11:24, Eleanor Martha Burke eleanormarthabu...@gmail.com 
 wrote:
 
 I find the information below very confusing as there is a lot of punctuation 
 and multiple  signs.  Is it possible to write out this exactly as it should 
 be written?  For instance does one put all the spaces also and does one put 
 the ;
 
 Eleanor
 - Original Message - From: Anne Robertson a...@anarchie.org.uk
 To: OS X  iOS Accessibility mac-access@mac-access.net
 Sent: Tuesday, May 26, 2015 6:52 AM
 Subject: [Mac-Access]: Pages, selecting text across page boundaries
 
 
 Hello everyone,
 
 Here is the fix for this problem.
 
 Open a TextEdit document and paste in the following without the quotes:
 
 {
 ^y = yankAndSelect:; //control-y
 ^\@ = setMark:; //control-@
 ^w = deleteToMark:; //control-w
 ^x = { //control-x control-x
 ^x = selectToMark:;
 };
 ^  = setMark:; //control-space
 ~f = moveWordForward:; //option-f
 ~b = moveWordBackward:; //option-b
 }
 
 Save the document as:
 DefaultKeyBinding.dict
 
 You’ll need to change the extension to .dict manually.
 
 Go to your user library by going to the Go menu in Finder and using the VO 
 keys to navigate down to Library.
 Create a folder Called KeyBindings and put the .dict document into it.
 
 From now on, you should be able to select text in any text editing 
 application by pressing Ctrl-Space to mark the beginning of the selection, 
 and Ctrl-x-x to mark the end of the selection. Everything in between will be 
 selected, including page breaks.
 
 Cheers,
 
 Anne
 
 
 
 
 




Re: [Mac-Access]: Pages, selecting text across page boundaries

2015-05-26 Thread Eleanor Martha Burke

Exceellent thank you Anne.

Eleanor
- Original Message - 
From: Anne Robertson a...@anarchie.org.uk

To: mac-access@mac-access.net
Sent: Tuesday, May 26, 2015 10:50 AM
Subject: Re: [Mac-Access]: Pages, selecting text across page boundaries


Hello Eleanor,

I carefully left a blank line before and after the text to be copied into 
the TextEdit document. So all you have to do is select the text after the 
first quotation mark and up to the last quotation mark and copy it to the 
clipboard, then paste it into a TextEdit document.


Cheers,

Anne


On 26 May 2015, at 11:24, Eleanor Martha Burke 
eleanormarthabu...@gmail.com wrote:


I find the information below very confusing as there is a lot of 
punctuation and multiple  signs.  Is it possible to write out this 
exactly as it should be written?  For instance does one put all the spaces 
also and does one put the ;


Eleanor
- Original Message - From: Anne Robertson a...@anarchie.org.uk
To: OS X  iOS Accessibility mac-access@mac-access.net
Sent: Tuesday, May 26, 2015 6:52 AM
Subject: [Mac-Access]: Pages, selecting text across page boundaries


Hello everyone,

Here is the fix for this problem.

Open a TextEdit document and paste in the following without the quotes:

{
^y = yankAndSelect:; //control-y
^\@ = setMark:; //control-@
^w = deleteToMark:; //control-w
^x = { //control-x control-x
^x = selectToMark:;
};
^  = setMark:; //control-space
~f = moveWordForward:; //option-f
~b = moveWordBackward:; //option-b
}

Save the document as:
DefaultKeyBinding.dict

You’ll need to change the extension to .dict manually.

Go to your user library by going to the Go menu in Finder and using the VO 
keys to navigate down to Library.

Create a folder Called KeyBindings and put the .dict document into it.

From now on, you should be able to select text in any text editing 
application by pressing Ctrl-Space to mark the beginning of the selection, 
and Ctrl-x-x to mark the end of the selection. Everything in between will 
be selected, including page breaks.


Cheers,

Anne












[Mac-Access]: Re: [Mac-access]: Mac accessibility

2015-05-26 Thread Esther Kinsman

I did not receive a reply to my email so s
will try again.  the repeating keys are the arrow keys and happens when 
reading tex a line at a time.  No reason - not holding down the key, etc. 
only doing a tap at a time.  This is my second keyboard and although it is 
not as bad it is still happening.
- Original Message - 
From: John Panarese jpanar...@mac-access.net

To: OS X  iOS Accessibility mac-access@mac-access.net
Sent: Thursday, April 23, 2015 10:17 AM
Subject: Re: [Mac-access]: Mac accessibility



  What do you mean by repeating?  Also, where is it occurring?


Take Care

John D. Panarese
Director
Mac for the Blind
Tel, (631) 724-4479
Email, j...@macfortheblind.com
Website, http://www.macfortheblind.com

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On Apr 23, 2015, at 8:40 AM, Esther Kinsman 
ekins...@seasidehighspeed.com wrote:


Somewhere along the way I was led to think the Mac with voice over was 
easy to work but am quickly learning differently.  My key board seems to 
be repeating on the arrow keys?  I got the keyboard replaced but it is 
still doing it - and I set the repeat to none on the keyboard settings. 
Has anyone else had this problem?


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