Re: [MacGroup] Apple Pay at a shell station

[Lee Larson]

On Dec 27, 2018, at 12:13 PM, Dan Crutcher mailto:dcrutc...@gmail.com>> wrote:

> I saw one of those symbols two days ago at the Pilot in Simpsonville. I had 
> already inserted my credit card, so I didn’t get to try it, but I was 
> wondering how it would work in a situation where you haven’t actually 
> purchased the product yet and don’t know how much it’s going to cost. Can 
> Apple Pay “suspend” entering the amount until the purchase is completed?

When I did it near Atlanta at a Chevron station, it worked just like a credit 
card.

I read a while back that Meijer was going to have Apple Pay at its pumps.

L^2


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Re: [MacGroup] Apple Pay at a shell station

[Dan Crutcher]

I saw one of those symbols two days ago at the Pilot in Simpsonville. I had 
already inserted my credit card, so I didn’t get to try it, but I was wondering 
how it would work in a situation where you haven’t actually purchased the 
product yet and don’t know how much it’s going to cost. Can Apple Pay “suspend” 
entering the amount until the purchase is completed?

Dan

> On Dec 26, 2018, at 10:29 AM, Lee Larson  wrote:
> 
> On Dec 25, 2018, at 10:32 PM, Harry Jacobson-Beyer  wrote:
> 
>> I pulled into a shell station to get gas. The pump had an applepay logo. I 
>> pulled out my trusty iPhone, opened my wallet and put the phone next to the 
>> ApplePay gizmo - nothing happened. I couldn’t get it to work.
>> 
>> What do you think is going on?
> 
> We drove to Tampa last week and stopped for gas near Atlanta. I tried Apple 
> Pay at the pump. It didn’t do anything with my default (Discover) setting, 
> but worked when I switched to a different card.
> 
> This is the same as always happens at Subway, even though they take the 
> Discover card. 
> 
> Happy Boxing Day!
> 
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Re: [MacGroup] Apple Pay at a shell station

[Harry Jacobson-Beyer]

Thanks, I will keep that in mind too.

> On Dec 26, 2018, at 9:29 AM, Lee Larson  wrote:
> 
> On Dec 25, 2018, at 10:32 PM, Harry Jacobson-Beyer  wrote:
> 
>> I pulled into a shell station to get gas. The pump had an applepay logo. I 
>> pulled out my trusty iPhone, opened my wallet and put the phone next to the 
>> ApplePay gizmo - nothing happened. I couldn’t get it to work.
>> 
>> What do you think is going on?
> 
> We drove to Tampa last week and stopped for gas near Atlanta. I tried Apple 
> Pay at the pump. It didn’t do anything with my default (Discover) setting, 
> but worked when I switched to a different card.
> 
> This is the same as always happens at Subway, even though they take the 
> Discover card. 
> 
> Happy Boxing Day!
> 
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Re: [MacGroup] Apple Pay at a shell station

[Lee Larson]

On Dec 25, 2018, at 10:32 PM, Harry Jacobson-Beyer  wrote:

> I pulled into a shell station to get gas. The pump had an applepay logo. I 
> pulled out my trusty iPhone, opened my wallet and put the phone next to the 
> ApplePay gizmo - nothing happened. I couldn’t get it to work.
> 
> What do you think is going on?

We drove to Tampa last week and stopped for gas near Atlanta. I tried Apple Pay 
at the pump. It didn’t do anything with my default (Discover) setting, but 
worked when I switched to a different card.

This is the same as always happens at Subway, even though they take the 
Discover card. 

Happy Boxing Day!

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Re: [MacGroup] Apple Pay at a shell station

[Harry Jacobson-Beyer]

We are out of town, so won’t be going back to the station soon. I’ll keep your 
ideas in mind if I run into the situation again. Thanks.
> On Dec 25, 2018, at 9:49 PM, John Robinson  wrote:
> 
> Could be it’s in preparation but not yet activated.   Could be the attendant 
> has to interact & hit the “credit” button inside.   Both are wild guesses.  
> When I’m checking out at many places I have to tell the clerk to hit the 
> “credit” button, especially at Starbucks & Walgreens.  At Meier the sale 
> won’t work even after I’ve used my ApplePay until the clerk pushes some 
> button for completion.  
> 
> I would go in and ask what they want.  
> 
> John
> 
> Sent from my iPhone
> 
>> On Dec 25, 2018, at 10:32 PM, Harry Jacobson-Beyer  wrote:
>> 
>> I pulled into a shell station to get gas. The pump had an applepay logo. I 
>> pulled out my trusty iPhone, opened my wallet and put the phone next to the 
>> ApplePay gizmo - nothing happened. I couldn’t get it to work.
>> 
>> What do you think is going on?
>> 
>> 
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Re: [MacGroup] Apple Pay at a shell station

[John Robinson]

In zooming in this may be the radio frequency used by some Androids & some 
credit cards.  Not near as safe as NFC that Apple uses but we can’t use these.  

John 

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> On Dec 25, 2018, at 10:32 PM, Harry Jacobson-Beyer  wrote:
> 
> I pulled into a shell station to get gas. The pump had an applepay logo. I 
> pulled out my trusty iPhone, opened my wallet and put the phone next to the 
> ApplePay gizmo - nothing happened. I couldn’t get it to work.
> 
> What do you think is going on?
> 
> 
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Re: [MacGroup] Apple Pay at a shell station

[John Robinson]

Could be it’s in preparation but not yet activated.   Could be the attendant 
has to interact & hit the “credit” button inside.   Both are wild guesses.  
When I’m checking out at many places I have to tell the clerk to hit the 
“credit” button, especially at Starbucks & Walgreens.  At Meier the sale won’t 
work even after I’ve used my ApplePay until the clerk pushes some button for 
completion.  

I would go in and ask what they want.  

John

Sent from my iPhone

> On Dec 25, 2018, at 10:32 PM, Harry Jacobson-Beyer  wrote:
> 
> I pulled into a shell station to get gas. The pump had an applepay logo. I 
> pulled out my trusty iPhone, opened my wallet and put the phone next to the 
> ApplePay gizmo - nothing happened. I couldn’t get it to work.
> 
> What do you think is going on?
> 
> 
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[MacGroup] Apple Pay at a shell station

[Harry Jacobson-Beyer]

I pulled into a shell station to get gas. The pump had an applepay logo. I 
pulled out my trusty iPhone, opened my wallet and put the phone next to the 
ApplePay gizmo - nothing happened. I couldn’t get it to work.

What do you think is going on?




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[MacGroup] Apple Pay

[Richard D. Meadows]

Is there a way to get into my apple pay account and go back to find places I 
have used it?  In the past 6-9 months? 

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Re: [MacGroup] Apple Pay

[Harry Jacobson-Beyer]

John,

This doesn’t tell me how to do it. How does apple pay on my phone connect with 
the site from which I am purchasing something.
Also I don’t have an Apple Watch or face recognition and my otterbox case won’t 
let me use my fingerprint on my phone. I enter my pass code whenever I use 
Applepay in the store.

Harry

> On Jun 20, 2018, at 9:44 PM, John Robinson  wrote:
> 
> Harry,
> 
> Near-Field Communication.  They need to be within 4 cm of each other.  
> 
> On line it’s a breeze, at checkout click on ApplePay, depending on the site 
> there may be shuttle differences but the bottom line is you don’t have to 
> enter a card, no expiration date, no security code from the back, no name, no 
> address, no phone number. 
> 
> Apple takes care of the shipping & payment without you doing a thing.  
> 
> The payment is completed by either face recognition, fingerprint, or if your 
> wearing an Apple Watch it will flash for you to double click the bottom 
> button, the same one you use at retail checkout.  
> 
> Once you complete this you are done. 
> 
> Instantly you will receive an email showing the payment, if you check your 
> bank the payment will be listed. 
> 
> If the site is hacked while you are on line or a year later there is nothing 
> in their system about you.  Just think, if everyone used Apple for payments 
> there would not be an issue with our security.  
> 
> John
> 
> Sent from my iPad
> 
> On Jun 20, 2018, at 7:43 PM, Ed Wiser  wrote:
> 
>> https://urldefense.proofpoint.com/v2/url?u=https-3A__en.wikipedia.org_wiki_Near-2Dfield-5Fcommunication=DwIFaQ=OAG1LQNACBDguGvBeNj18Swhr9TMTjS-x4O_KuapPgY=F2GFXrjLFqVo3VwvIlo_XYeEiRRjHv15rxcenz7A21woG2aFGcrzndoSsskxfmOs=dlISorZPkdbRlIrL_-BRlgX8cgYM4JJJlr52_D8v5Zo=IYrE0b9DStiZnX7EGKKxHiyE-pgEoIfiTOWgHmllySU=
>> 
>> https://urldefense.proofpoint.com/v2/url?u=https-3A__youtu.be_-2DTwwqdDTzfU=DwIFaQ=OAG1LQNACBDguGvBeNj18Swhr9TMTjS-x4O_KuapPgY=F2GFXrjLFqVo3VwvIlo_XYeEiRRjHv15rxcenz7A21woG2aFGcrzndoSsskxfmOs=dlISorZPkdbRlIrL_-BRlgX8cgYM4JJJlr52_D8v5Zo=uBkjQkd7nwNPlOJS9dW1n_uDasUVSxsW65G23l3zzGc=
>> 
>> 
>> https://urldefense.proofpoint.com/v2/url?u=https-3A__appleinsider.com_articles_14_10_20_apple-2Dpay-2Dis-2Donline-2Dtoo-2Dapple-2Dstore-2Dothers-2Dapps-2Daccept-2Dtouch-2Did-2Dfor-2Dauthorizing-2Dpurchases=DwIFaQ=OAG1LQNACBDguGvBeNj18Swhr9TMTjS-x4O_KuapPgY=F2GFXrjLFqVo3VwvIlo_XYeEiRRjHv15rxcenz7A21woG2aFGcrzndoSsskxfmOs=dlISorZPkdbRlIrL_-BRlgX8cgYM4JJJlr52_D8v5Zo=Y_N9XstARsquF9lJwlKjdIQdcZEpx4oHBf0y7jMDAYo=
>> 
>> 
>> 
>> Sent from my iPhone
>> 
>> On Jun 20, 2018, at 7:31 PM, Harry Jacobson-Beyer  wrote:
>> 
>>> John,
>>> 
>>> What is NFC?
>>> 
>>> And, how do you use Apple Pay in an online order?
>>> 
>>> Harry
>>> 
>>> 
 On Jun 20, 2018, at 5:26 PM, John Robinson  
 wrote:
 
 Thanks Harry, all NFC devices charge a fee, debit cards charge a fee, 
 credit cards charge a fee. One day 90+% of establishments will accept NFC 
 or lose the sale, especially as the youth progress up the financial food 
 chain. 
 
 Many times I back out of an on line order if they don’t take ApplePay. 
 
 John
 
 Sent from my iPhone
 
> On Jun 20, 2018, at 4:22 PM, Harry Jacobson-Beyer  wrote:
> 
> I ran a bunch of errands today - 6 stops. I was able to use Apple Pay at 
> all but one stop.
> 
> These folks take Apple Pay:
> 
>  Trader Joes
>  Paul’s Fruit Market
>  Mark’s Hallmark store in Gardiner Lane Shopping Center
>  Valu Mart
>  Keith’s Hardware
> 
> The one place I went that doesn’t take Apple Pay is Costco.
> 
> I always ask about it and this time the cashier told me Costco doesn’t 
> take Apple Pay because Apple attaches a fee to the transaction.
> 
> Don’t know if that’s true or not but thought I would pass it on.
> 
> Harry
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Re: [MacGroup] Apple Pay

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https://urldefense.proofpoint.com/v2/url?u=https-3A__en.wikipedia.org_wiki_Near-2Dfield-5Fcommunication=DwIFaQ=OAG1LQNACBDguGvBeNj18Swhr9TMTjS-x4O_KuapPgY=F2GFXrjLFqVo3VwvIlo_XYeEiRRjHv15rxcenz7A21woG2aFGcrzndoSsskxfmOs=ifQ8M151BCArOgLZnjROA62vgdFZkYe-1viEBl4oufo=1TZ3zYnlTERgPB560rzcnRbZfKDetA6fUlrX9aKW7jY=

https://urldefense.proofpoint.com/v2/url?u=https-3A__youtu.be_-2DTwwqdDTzfU=DwIFaQ=OAG1LQNACBDguGvBeNj18Swhr9TMTjS-x4O_KuapPgY=F2GFXrjLFqVo3VwvIlo_XYeEiRRjHv15rxcenz7A21woG2aFGcrzndoSsskxfmOs=ifQ8M151BCArOgLZnjROA62vgdFZkYe-1viEBl4oufo=46m3KvH9xF72EzO4QCxEhwJ4USR15qwb2GwhivRDdhI=


https://urldefense.proofpoint.com/v2/url?u=https-3A__appleinsider.com_articles_14_10_20_apple-2Dpay-2Dis-2Donline-2Dtoo-2Dapple-2Dstore-2Dothers-2Dapps-2Daccept-2Dtouch-2Did-2Dfor-2Dauthorizing-2Dpurchases=DwIFaQ=OAG1LQNACBDguGvBeNj18Swhr9TMTjS-x4O_KuapPgY=F2GFXrjLFqVo3VwvIlo_XYeEiRRjHv15rxcenz7A21woG2aFGcrzndoSsskxfmOs=ifQ8M151BCArOgLZnjROA62vgdFZkYe-1viEBl4oufo=yudCwqkWv0cUTXZ406-8S0QeCK8Y_gGX1eXl3UbuKoI=



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> On Jun 20, 2018, at 7:31 PM, Harry Jacobson-Beyer  wrote:
> 
> John,
> 
> What is NFC?
> 
> And, how do you use Apple Pay in an online order?
> 
> Harry
> 
> 
>> On Jun 20, 2018, at 5:26 PM, John Robinson  
>> wrote:
>> 
>> Thanks Harry, all NFC devices charge a fee, debit cards charge a fee, credit 
>> cards charge a fee. One day 90+% of establishments will accept NFC or lose 
>> the sale, especially as the youth progress up the financial food chain. 
>> 
>> Many times I back out of an on line order if they don’t take ApplePay. 
>> 
>> John
>> 
>> Sent from my iPhone
>> 
>>> On Jun 20, 2018, at 4:22 PM, Harry Jacobson-Beyer  wrote:
>>> 
>>> I ran a bunch of errands today - 6 stops. I was able to use Apple Pay at 
>>> all but one stop.
>>> 
>>> These folks take Apple Pay:
>>> 
>>>  Trader Joes
>>>  Paul’s Fruit Market
>>>  Mark’s Hallmark store in Gardiner Lane Shopping Center
>>>  Valu Mart
>>>  Keith’s Hardware
>>> 
>>> The one place I went that doesn’t take Apple Pay is Costco.
>>> 
>>> I always ask about it and this time the cashier told me Costco doesn’t take 
>>> Apple Pay because Apple attaches a fee to the transaction.
>>> 
>>> Don’t know if that’s true or not but thought I would pass it on.
>>> 
>>> Harry
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Re: [MacGroup] Apple Pay

[Harry Jacobson-Beyer]

John,

What is NFC?

And, how do you use Apple Pay in an online order?

Harry


> On Jun 20, 2018, at 5:26 PM, John Robinson  wrote:
> 
> Thanks Harry, all NFC devices charge a fee, debit cards charge a fee, credit 
> cards charge a fee. One day 90+% of establishments will accept NFC or lose 
> the sale, especially as the youth progress up the financial food chain. 
> 
> Many times I back out of an on line order if they don’t take ApplePay. 
> 
> John
> 
> Sent from my iPhone
> 
>> On Jun 20, 2018, at 4:22 PM, Harry Jacobson-Beyer  wrote:
>> 
>> I ran a bunch of errands today - 6 stops. I was able to use Apple Pay at all 
>> but one stop.
>> 
>> These folks take Apple Pay:
>> 
>>   Trader Joes
>>   Paul’s Fruit Market
>>   Mark’s Hallmark store in Gardiner Lane Shopping Center
>>   Valu Mart
>>   Keith’s Hardware
>> 
>> The one place I went that doesn’t take Apple Pay is Costco.
>> 
>> I always ask about it and this time the cashier told me Costco doesn’t take 
>> Apple Pay because Apple attaches a fee to the transaction.
>> 
>> Don’t know if that’s true or not but thought I would pass it on.
>> 
>> Harry
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Re: [MacGroup] Apple Pay

[John Robinson]

Thanks Harry, all NFC devices charge a fee, debit cards charge a fee, credit 
cards charge a fee. One day 90+% of establishments will accept NFC or lose the 
sale, especially as the youth progress up the financial food chain. 

Many times I back out of an on line order if they don’t take ApplePay. 

John

Sent from my iPhone

> On Jun 20, 2018, at 4:22 PM, Harry Jacobson-Beyer  wrote:
> 
> I ran a bunch of errands today - 6 stops. I was able to use Apple Pay at all 
> but one stop.
> 
> These folks take Apple Pay:
>
>Trader Joes
>Paul’s Fruit Market
>Mark’s Hallmark store in Gardiner Lane Shopping Center
>Valu Mart
>Keith’s Hardware
> 
> The one place I went that doesn’t take Apple Pay is Costco.
> 
> I always ask about it and this time the cashier told me Costco doesn’t take 
> Apple Pay because Apple attaches a fee to the transaction.
> 
> Don’t know if that’s true or not but thought I would pass it on.
> 
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[MacGroup] Apple Pay

[Harry Jacobson-Beyer]

I ran a bunch of errands today - 6 stops. I was able to use Apple Pay at all 
but one stop.

These folks take Apple Pay:

Trader Joes
Paul’s Fruit Market
Mark’s Hallmark store in Gardiner Lane Shopping Center
Valu Mart
Keith’s Hardware

The one place I went that doesn’t take Apple Pay is Costco.

I always ask about it and this time the cashier told me Costco doesn’t take 
Apple Pay because Apple attaches a fee to the transaction.

Don’t know if that’s true or not but thought I would pass it on.

Harry
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Jonathan, Apple still has some bugs to work through!!

John

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> On Dec 25, 2017, at 12:51 AM, Jonathan Fletcher  
> wrote:
> 
> I call bogus, John! I kept clicking on Add to Wallet in your message and 
> nothing happened on my phone!
> 
> ::-)
> 
> Jonathan
> 
>> On Dec 24, 2017, at 4:06 PM, John Robinson  wrote:
>> 
>> I’ve received my first Apple Gift Card, electronically from a 
>> grandson…..it’s in an email…
>> 
>> See the “Add To Apple Wallet”.
>> 
>> By clicking the card instantly ended up in my Wallet as you see below….
>> 
>> How cools is that!!  Nothing else had to be done..no scanning of the card 
>> numbers..no opening the iPhone….it just works….
>> 
>> John
>> 
>> 
>> 
>> 
>> 
>> 
>> 
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I call bogus, John! I kept clicking on Add to Wallet in your message and 
nothing happened on my phone!

::-)

Jonathan

> On Dec 24, 2017, at 4:06 PM, John Robinson  wrote:
> 
> I’ve received my first Apple Gift Card, electronically from a grandson…..it’s 
> in an email…
> 
> See the “Add To Apple Wallet”.
> 
> By clicking the card instantly ended up in my Wallet as you see below….
> 
> How cools is that!!  Nothing else had to be done..no scanning of the card 
> numbers..no opening the iPhone….it just works….
> 
> John
> 
> 
> 
> 
> 
> 
> 

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[John Robinson]

It’s so cool, allows any of us to take payments from our iPad, iPhone or from a 
desk terminal the box is attached to.

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> On Nov 27, 2017, at 1:25 PM, Harry Jacobson-Beyer  wrote:
> 
> what is square?
>> On Nov 27, 2017, at 1:23 PM, John Robinson  
>> wrote:
>> 
>> Harry,
>> 
>> Sorry, I think of one thing at a time….ALSO, anyplace that uses “Square” can 
>> normally take ApplePay, we have a local Coffee Shop that I pay with ApplePay 
>> using Square,  and there is a Toppit Pizza place that I pay using Square.
>> 
>> John
>> 
>> 
>>> On Nov 27, 2017, at 12:16 PM, Harry Jacobson-Beyer  wrote:
>>> 
>>> Is there an Apple Pay app for the desktop?
>>> 
 On Nov 27, 2017, at 10:50 AM, Lee Larson  wrote:
 
 On Nov 27, 2017, at 10:33 AM, John Robinson  
 wrote:
 
> At checkout I could use ApplePay but I was on a desktop, how was 
> authentication going to work?
 
 I’ve been using ApplePay from my touch-bar Mac for several months. It has 
 a fingerprint reader on the right end of the touch-bar. It works well with 
 Groupon.
 
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what is square?
> On Nov 27, 2017, at 1:23 PM, John Robinson  wrote:
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> Harry,
> 
> Sorry, I think of one thing at a time….ALSO, anyplace that uses “Square” can 
> normally take ApplePay, we have a local Coffee Shop that I pay with ApplePay 
> using Square,  and there is a Toppit Pizza place that I pay using Square.
> 
> John
> 
> 
>> On Nov 27, 2017, at 12:16 PM, Harry Jacobson-Beyer  wrote:
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>> Is there an Apple Pay app for the desktop?
>> 
>>> On Nov 27, 2017, at 10:50 AM, Lee Larson  wrote:
>>> 
>>> On Nov 27, 2017, at 10:33 AM, John Robinson  
>>> wrote:
>>> 
 At checkout I could use ApplePay but I was on a desktop, how was 
 authentication going to work?
>>> 
>>> I’ve been using ApplePay from my touch-bar Mac for several months. It has a 
>>> fingerprint reader on the right end of the touch-bar. It works well with 
>>> Groupon.
>>> 
>>> L^2
>>> 
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>>> ‌leelar...@me.com‌
>>> 
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>>> worth the Nobel prize. ‌— Richard Feynman
>>> ‌People Magazine, 1985‌
>>> 
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Harry,

Sorry, I think of one thing at a time….ALSO, anyplace that uses “Square” can 
normally take ApplePay, we have a local Coffee Shop that I pay with ApplePay 
using Square,  and there is a Toppit Pizza place that I pay using Square.

John


> On Nov 27, 2017, at 12:16 PM, Harry Jacobson-Beyer  wrote:
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> Is there an Apple Pay app for the desktop?
> 
>> On Nov 27, 2017, at 10:50 AM, Lee Larson  wrote:
>> 
>> On Nov 27, 2017, at 10:33 AM, John Robinson  
>> wrote:
>> 
>>> At checkout I could use ApplePay but I was on a desktop, how was 
>>> authentication going to work?
>> 
>> I’ve been using ApplePay from my touch-bar Mac for several months. It has a 
>> fingerprint reader on the right end of the touch-bar. It works well with 
>> Groupon.
>> 
>> L^2
>> 
>> ---
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>> ‌leelar...@me.com‌
>> 
>> ‌Hell, if I could explain it to the average person, it wouldn't have been 
>> worth the Nobel prize. ‌— Richard Feynman
>> ‌People Magazine, 1985‌
>> 
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[John Robinson]

Harry,

Here is a good list for in store, on the Web and for giving to Charity…it’s not 
complete as I just purchased from Tumi and it’s not on the list.


John



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> On Nov 27, 2017, at 12:16 PM, Harry Jacobson-Beyer  wrote:
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> Is there an Apple Pay app for the desktop?
> 
>> On Nov 27, 2017, at 10:50 AM, Lee Larson  wrote:
>> 
>> On Nov 27, 2017, at 10:33 AM, John Robinson  
>> wrote:
>> 
>>> At checkout I could use ApplePay but I was on a desktop, how was 
>>> authentication going to work?
>> 
>> I’ve been using ApplePay from my touch-bar Mac for several months. It has a 
>> fingerprint reader on the right end of the touch-bar. It works well with 
>> Groupon.
>> 
>> L^2
>> 
>> ---
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>> ‌leelar...@me.com‌
>> 
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>> worth the Nobel prize. ‌— Richard Feynman
>> ‌People Magazine, 1985‌
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[John Robinson]

Harry,

ApplePay is offered on many sites, I’ve used it a dozen times…when checking out 
there are choices of PayPal, the credit cards and if the firm has decided to 
include ApplePay the Icon is included.

Clicking on it with a Laptop as Lee has then authentication is by Lee using his 
fingerprint on the laptop, but if your on a regular keyboard as I was today 
then I learned they access the Apple Watch and ask for me to authorize, if I 
didn’t have the watch then I’m sure they would have ask me to approve through 
the iPhone.

I still believe Apple will bring out a keyboard that has the fingerprint button 
as Lee’s laptop does…a wild guess but until then it can still be done as I 
discovered today.

John


> On Nov 27, 2017, at 12:16 PM, Harry Jacobson-Beyer  wrote:
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> Is there an Apple Pay app for the desktop?
> 
>> On Nov 27, 2017, at 10:50 AM, Lee Larson  wrote:
>> 
>> On Nov 27, 2017, at 10:33 AM, John Robinson  
>> wrote:
>> 
>>> At checkout I could use ApplePay but I was on a desktop, how was 
>>> authentication going to work?
>> 
>> I’ve been using ApplePay from my touch-bar Mac for several months. It has a 
>> fingerprint reader on the right end of the touch-bar. It works well with 
>> Groupon.
>> 
>> L^2
>> 
>> ---
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>> ‌leelar...@me.com‌
>> 
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>> worth the Nobel prize. ‌— Richard Feynman
>> ‌People Magazine, 1985‌
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Is there an Apple Pay app for the desktop?

> On Nov 27, 2017, at 10:50 AM, Lee Larson  wrote:
> 
> On Nov 27, 2017, at 10:33 AM, John Robinson  
> wrote:
> 
>> At checkout I could use ApplePay but I was on a desktop, how was 
>> authentication going to work?
> 
> I’ve been using ApplePay from my touch-bar Mac for several months. It has a 
> fingerprint reader on the right end of the touch-bar. It works well with 
> Groupon.
> 
> L^2
> 
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> ‌leelar...@me.com‌
> 
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[Lee Larson]

On Nov 27, 2017, at 10:33 AM, John Robinson > wrote:

> At checkout I could use ApplePay but I was on a desktop, how was 
> authentication going to work?


I’ve been using ApplePay from my touch-bar Mac for several months. It has a 
fingerprint reader on the right end of the touch-bar. It works well with 
Groupon.

L^2

---
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‌leelar...@me.com ‌

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[John Robinson]

I’m like Johnny Appleseed, going round spreading ApplePay seeds….

Today I had my first experience using ApplePay from a desktop, normally I’m 
using a mobile devise where I have the fingerprint authentication.

Today Tumi had a bag that will fit my equipment when going to the gym, it was 
over 30% off, then another 10% for Cyber Monday…

At checkout I could use ApplePay but I was on a desktop, how was authentication 
going to work?

I clicked on the ApplePay and Apple filled in all the particulars of the sale, 
I didn’t have to type a thing….Then my Apple Watch started vibrating with an 
arrow for me to double tap the bottom button, the one we use for ApplePay in 
the store.  

Once I did that then my debit card appeared, I could have switched to the 
credit cards but I left on debit..

Soon the window on the monitor got a checkmark and the transaction was complete…

I felt Apple would put a fingerprint button on the keyboards for on-line 
shopping, now I see for purchases this is not needed.

Cool, Ray-Ban glasses, open shirt and gold chain…I mean we’re hip for sure.


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[Harry Jacobson-Beyer]

By Baxter Avenue Theaters!

Hooray!

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Oh Tom, your suggestion may be more intriguing than Apple’s

I say may with tongue in cheek..

John

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> On Nov 18, 2017, at 9:56 PM, tom holloman  wrote:
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> Harry, are you too old to remember car play?lol
> 
>> On Nov 18, 2017, at 4:47 PM, Harry Jacobson-Beyer  wrote:
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>> You devil, you!
>> 
>> BTW, what is Car Play?
>> 
>>> On Nov 18, 2017, at 7:29 PM, John Robinson  
>>> wrote:
>>> 
>>> By the way Harry, I have no intention of buying a Lexus, but they don’t 
>>> know that so plugging Apple was still accomplished. 
>>> 
>>> John
>>> 
>>> Sent from my iPhone
>>> 
 On Nov 18, 2017, at 5:46 PM, John Robinson  
 wrote:
 
 Your right, I love the open mouth response. 
 
 Thursday I ordered some items from Penny’s at checkout there was no 
 ApplePay so I canceled the order.  The wanted me to call, which I did 
 saying I wouldn’t shop without AP.  
 
 Did the same with the company I buy my magnetic iPhone case, told them to 
 get the X case I would need AP, they wrote back saying they were going to 
 adopt. 
 
 Wrote to Lexus this week saying my next car will have to have Apple Car 
 play, then naming other companies that offered.  They wrote back saying 
 they were always listening to their customers needs & they were 
 considering adding Car Play.  
 
 You have to stay proactive. 
 
 John. 
 
 Sent from my iPhone
 
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> 
> Lotta places like that over here. We have to educate them one at a time!
> 
>> On Nov 18, 2017, at 11:52 AM, Harry Jacobson-Beyer  
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>> Hallmark store in Gardiner Lane Shopping Center accepts Apple Pay 
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Harry, 

Life is a game we play with those whose help we can use. 

John

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> On Nov 18, 2017, at 9:47 PM, Harry Jacobson-Beyer  wrote:
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> You devil, you!
> 
> BTW, what is Car Play?
> 
>> On Nov 18, 2017, at 7:29 PM, John Robinson  
>> wrote:
>> 
>> By the way Harry, I have no intention of buying a Lexus, but they don’t know 
>> that so plugging Apple was still accomplished. 
>> 
>> John
>> 
>> Sent from my iPhone
>> 
>>> On Nov 18, 2017, at 5:46 PM, John Robinson  
>>> wrote:
>>> 
>>> Your right, I love the open mouth response. 
>>> 
>>> Thursday I ordered some items from Penny’s at checkout there was no 
>>> ApplePay so I canceled the order.  The wanted me to call, which I did 
>>> saying I wouldn’t shop without AP.  
>>> 
>>> Did the same with the company I buy my magnetic iPhone case, told them to 
>>> get the X case I would need AP, they wrote back saying they were going to 
>>> adopt. 
>>> 
>>> Wrote to Lexus this week saying my next car will have to have Apple Car 
>>> play, then naming other companies that offered.  They wrote back saying 
>>> they were always listening to their customers needs & they were considering 
>>> adding Car Play.  
>>> 
>>> You have to stay proactive. 
>>> 
>>> John. 
>>> 
>>> Sent from my iPhone
>>> 
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 Lotta places like that over here. We have to educate them one at a time!
 
> On Nov 18, 2017, at 11:52 AM, Harry Jacobson-Beyer  wrote:
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> Hallmark store in Gardiner Lane Shopping Center accepts Apple Pay 
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Harry, are you too old to remember car play?lol

> On Nov 18, 2017, at 4:47 PM, Harry Jacobson-Beyer  wrote:
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> You devil, you!
> 
> BTW, what is Car Play?
> 
>> On Nov 18, 2017, at 7:29 PM, John Robinson  
>> wrote:
>> 
>> By the way Harry, I have no intention of buying a Lexus, but they don’t know 
>> that so plugging Apple was still accomplished. 
>> 
>> John
>> 
>> Sent from my iPhone
>> 
>>> On Nov 18, 2017, at 5:46 PM, John Robinson  
>>> wrote:
>>> 
>>> Your right, I love the open mouth response. 
>>> 
>>> Thursday I ordered some items from Penny’s at checkout there was no 
>>> ApplePay so I canceled the order.  The wanted me to call, which I did 
>>> saying I wouldn’t shop without AP.  
>>> 
>>> Did the same with the company I buy my magnetic iPhone case, told them to 
>>> get the X case I would need AP, they wrote back saying they were going to 
>>> adopt. 
>>> 
>>> Wrote to Lexus this week saying my next car will have to have Apple Car 
>>> play, then naming other companies that offered.  They wrote back saying 
>>> they were always listening to their customers needs & they were considering 
>>> adding Car Play.  
>>> 
>>> You have to stay proactive. 
>>> 
>>> John. 
>>> 
>>> Sent from my iPhone
>>> 
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 Lotta places like that over here. We have to educate them one at a time!
 
> On Nov 18, 2017, at 11:52 AM, Harry Jacobson-Beyer  wrote:
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> Hallmark store in Gardiner Lane Shopping Center accepts Apple Pay 
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You devil, you!

BTW, what is Car Play?

> On Nov 18, 2017, at 7:29 PM, John Robinson  wrote:
> 
> By the way Harry, I have no intention of buying a Lexus, but they don’t know 
> that so plugging Apple was still accomplished. 
> 
> John
> 
> Sent from my iPhone
> 
>> On Nov 18, 2017, at 5:46 PM, John Robinson  
>> wrote:
>> 
>> Your right, I love the open mouth response. 
>> 
>> Thursday I ordered some items from Penny’s at checkout there was no ApplePay 
>> so I canceled the order.  The wanted me to call, which I did saying I 
>> wouldn’t shop without AP.  
>> 
>> Did the same with the company I buy my magnetic iPhone case, told them to 
>> get the X case I would need AP, they wrote back saying they were going to 
>> adopt. 
>> 
>> Wrote to Lexus this week saying my next car will have to have Apple Car 
>> play, then naming other companies that offered.  They wrote back saying they 
>> were always listening to their customers needs & they were considering 
>> adding Car Play.  
>> 
>> You have to stay proactive. 
>> 
>> John. 
>> 
>> Sent from my iPhone
>> 
>>> On Nov 18, 2017, at 4:58 PM, tom holloman  wrote:
>>> 
>>> Lotta places like that over here. We have to educate them one at a time!
>>> 
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Tom, what an idea, toy land for the Wannabe!  

John

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> On Nov 18, 2017, at 7:42 PM, tom holloman  wrote:
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> Contact Ferrari, Lamborghini, and rolls too. 
> 
>> On Nov 18, 2017, at 2:29 PM, John Robinson  
>> wrote:
>> 
>> By the way Harry, I have no intention of buying a Lexus, but they don’t know 
>> that so plugging Apple was still accomplished. 
>> 
>> John
>> 
>> Sent from my iPhone
>> 
>>> On Nov 18, 2017, at 5:46 PM, John Robinson  
>>> wrote:
>>> 
>>> Your right, I love the open mouth response. 
>>> 
>>> Thursday I ordered some items from Penny’s at checkout there was no 
>>> ApplePay so I canceled the order.  The wanted me to call, which I did 
>>> saying I wouldn’t shop without AP.  
>>> 
>>> Did the same with the company I buy my magnetic iPhone case, told them to 
>>> get the X case I would need AP, they wrote back saying they were going to 
>>> adopt. 
>>> 
>>> Wrote to Lexus this week saying my next car will have to have Apple Car 
>>> play, then naming other companies that offered.  They wrote back saying 
>>> they were always listening to their customers needs & they were considering 
>>> adding Car Play.  
>>> 
>>> You have to stay proactive. 
>>> 
>>> John. 
>>> 
>>> Sent from my iPhone
>>> 
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 Lotta places like that over here. We have to educate them one at a time!
 
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> Hallmark store in Gardiner Lane Shopping Center accepts Apple Pay 
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Contact Ferrari, Lamborghini, and rolls too. 

> On Nov 18, 2017, at 2:29 PM, John Robinson  wrote:
> 
> By the way Harry, I have no intention of buying a Lexus, but they don’t know 
> that so plugging Apple was still accomplished. 
> 
> John
> 
> Sent from my iPhone
> 
>> On Nov 18, 2017, at 5:46 PM, John Robinson  
>> wrote:
>> 
>> Your right, I love the open mouth response. 
>> 
>> Thursday I ordered some items from Penny’s at checkout there was no ApplePay 
>> so I canceled the order.  The wanted me to call, which I did saying I 
>> wouldn’t shop without AP.  
>> 
>> Did the same with the company I buy my magnetic iPhone case, told them to 
>> get the X case I would need AP, they wrote back saying they were going to 
>> adopt. 
>> 
>> Wrote to Lexus this week saying my next car will have to have Apple Car 
>> play, then naming other companies that offered.  They wrote back saying they 
>> were always listening to their customers needs & they were considering 
>> adding Car Play.  
>> 
>> You have to stay proactive. 
>> 
>> John. 
>> 
>> Sent from my iPhone
>> 
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>>> 
>>> Lotta places like that over here. We have to educate them one at a time!
>>> 
 On Nov 18, 2017, at 11:52 AM, Harry Jacobson-Beyer  wrote:
 
 Hallmark store in Gardiner Lane Shopping Center accepts Apple Pay although 
 the clerk had no idea. 
 
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By the way Harry, I have no intention of buying a Lexus, but they don’t know 
that so plugging Apple was still accomplished. 

John

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> On Nov 18, 2017, at 5:46 PM, John Robinson  wrote:
> 
> Your right, I love the open mouth response. 
> 
> Thursday I ordered some items from Penny’s at checkout there was no ApplePay 
> so I canceled the order.  The wanted me to call, which I did saying I 
> wouldn’t shop without AP.  
> 
> Did the same with the company I buy my magnetic iPhone case, told them to get 
> the X case I would need AP, they wrote back saying they were going to adopt. 
> 
> Wrote to Lexus this week saying my next car will have to have Apple Car play, 
> then naming other companies that offered.  They wrote back saying they were 
> always listening to their customers needs & they were considering adding Car 
> Play.  
> 
> You have to stay proactive. 
> 
> John. 
> 
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> 
>> On Nov 18, 2017, at 4:58 PM, tom holloman  wrote:
>> 
>> Lotta places like that over here. We have to educate them one at a time!
>> 
>>> On Nov 18, 2017, at 11:52 AM, Harry Jacobson-Beyer  wrote:
>>> 
>>> Hallmark store in Gardiner Lane Shopping Center accepts Apple Pay although 
>>> the clerk had no idea. 
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Your right, I love the open mouth response. 

Thursday I ordered some items from Penny’s at checkout there was no ApplePay so 
I canceled the order.  The wanted me to call, which I did saying I wouldn’t 
shop without AP.  

Did the same with the company I buy my magnetic iPhone case, told them to get 
the X case I would need AP, they wrote back saying they were going to adopt. 

Wrote to Lexus this week saying my next car will have to have Apple Car play, 
then naming other companies that offered.  They wrote back saying they were 
always listening to their customers needs & they were considering adding Car 
Play.  

You have to stay proactive. 

John. 

Sent from my iPhone

> On Nov 18, 2017, at 4:58 PM, tom holloman  wrote:
> 
> Lotta places like that over here. We have to educate them one at a time!
> 
>> On Nov 18, 2017, at 11:52 AM, Harry Jacobson-Beyer  wrote:
>> 
>> Hallmark store in Gardiner Lane Shopping Center accepts Apple Pay although 
>> the clerk had no idea. 
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Lotta places like that over here. We have to educate them one at a time!

> On Nov 18, 2017, at 11:52 AM, Harry Jacobson-Beyer  wrote:
> 
> Hallmark store in Gardiner Lane Shopping Center accepts Apple Pay although 
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[Harry Jacobson-Beyer]

Hallmark store in Gardiner Lane Shopping Center accepts Apple Pay although the 
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[John Robinson]

Harry, 

A note on speed….if you’ve used ApplePay you’ll instantly realize the speed of 
NFC vs a chip card,  there is no comparison, Apple is immensely quicker….well 
with the Apple Watch 3 the speed is instant…I hardly get the Watch to the 
reader and it’s over….possibly twice as fast, three times,  as the original 
watch…

John


> On Nov 3, 2017, at 9:36 PM, Harry Jacobson-Beyer  wrote:
> 
> I was at Kroger on Goss Ave. yesterday. I asked if they took Apple Pay and 
> was told yes, but it doesn’t always work. And it didn’t. There were a lot of 
> people in line behind me, so I just used my credit card.
> 
> I have four cards in Apple Pay - all from different banks.
> 
> But I primarily use just one, because I get more money back for using it.
> 
> I’ll keep trying. Does the cashier have to do something before the card will 
> be accepted?
> 
> When we were in restaurants in Europe when it came time to pay the bill, the 
> waiter would bring a machine to the table. My card never left my site and 
> Apple Pay was taken everywhere!
> 
>> On Nov 3, 2017, at 7:45 PM, John Robinson  wrote:
>> 
>> Well, I understand they allow 1 phone call from the hokey!   
>> 
>> At least if your standing in line & it doesn’t work you can quickly change 
>> to a card that hasn’t been updated & then work on updating when you get 
>> home.  
>> 
>> I have a Chase Debit, Chase Credit, Capital One, & State Farm cards that are 
>> all ApplePay on my iPhone & Apple Watch so hopefully I’ll have one that 
>> would work.  
>> 
>> I’ve had times when it doesn’t work but that has been a problem with the 
>> register.  At Meijer the Watch nor the phone would work, a manager was 
>> called, who transferred by purchases to another register & it worked 
>> perfectly. 
>> 
>> John
>> 
>> Sent from my iPhone
>> 
>>> On Nov 3, 2017, at 7:30 PM, Harry Jacobson-Beyer  wrote:
>>> 
>>> Thanks John. Let’s hope my bank has updated the info!
 On Nov 3, 2017, at 7:26 PM, John Robinson  
 wrote:
 
 Harry, 
 
 This is from the Apple site.  It’s a great question that I’ve not yet 
 faced, but this suggest your bank should do this for you.  I did have two 
 chip cards hacked & the two banks sent new cards & the correct card info 
 did show up without me doing anything.  Here is what Apple has to say: 
 
 While you can't change your card number or expiration date, it should 
 update automatically when you get a new card. If your issuer doesn't 
 support updates, you might need to remove the card, then add it again.
 
 John
 
 Sent from my iPhone
 
> On Nov 3, 2017, at 7:05 PM, Harry Jacobson-Beyer  wrote:
> 
> I guess this question is for John,
> 
> One of my credit cards associated with Apple Pay has a new expiration 
> date and a new CVC code.
> 
> I don’t see any way to update the card within my Wallet. If I delete the 
> card and reenter the card with my new info I also delete my transaction 
> history.
> 
> Is there any way to update the card without deleting it and deleting the 
> transaction history?
> 
> Or is there a way to export the transaction history?
> 
> Thanks.
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[John Robinson]

Kroger does NOT accept ApplePay, I’ve been corresponding with their PR 
department for months upon months…if they took ApplePay they would certainly 
tell me.  I’ve had a clerk tell me that one man held his phone next to the slot 
where card’s are swiped…of course they didn’t know if it was Apple or 
Android…I’ve tried but it didn’t work.

Cashiers only need to hit the “credit” button on their terminal, I’ve had to 
instruct quite a few…but now so many know and if it’s a drive-in window they 
have the portable terminal ready.


> On Nov 3, 2017, at 9:36 PM, Harry Jacobson-Beyer  wrote:
> 
> I was at Kroger on Goss Ave. yesterday. I asked if they took Apple Pay and 
> was told yes, but it doesn’t always work. And it didn’t. There were a lot of 
> people in line behind me, so I just used my credit card.
> 
> I have four cards in Apple Pay - all from different banks.
> 
> But I primarily use just one, because I get more money back for using it.
> 
> I’ll keep trying. Does the cashier have to do something before the card will 
> be accepted?
> 
> When we were in restaurants in Europe when it came time to pay the bill, the 
> waiter would bring a machine to the table. My card never left my site and 
> Apple Pay was taken everywhere!
> 
>> On Nov 3, 2017, at 7:45 PM, John Robinson  wrote:
>> 
>> Well, I understand they allow 1 phone call from the hokey!   
>> 
>> At least if your standing in line & it doesn’t work you can quickly change 
>> to a card that hasn’t been updated & then work on updating when you get 
>> home.  
>> 
>> I have a Chase Debit, Chase Credit, Capital One, & State Farm cards that are 
>> all ApplePay on my iPhone & Apple Watch so hopefully I’ll have one that 
>> would work.  
>> 
>> I’ve had times when it doesn’t work but that has been a problem with the 
>> register.  At Meijer the Watch nor the phone would work, a manager was 
>> called, who transferred by purchases to another register & it worked 
>> perfectly. 
>> 
>> John
>> 
>> Sent from my iPhone
>> 
>>> On Nov 3, 2017, at 7:30 PM, Harry Jacobson-Beyer  wrote:
>>> 
>>> Thanks John. Let’s hope my bank has updated the info!
 On Nov 3, 2017, at 7:26 PM, John Robinson  
 wrote:
 
 Harry, 
 
 This is from the Apple site.  It’s a great question that I’ve not yet 
 faced, but this suggest your bank should do this for you.  I did have two 
 chip cards hacked & the two banks sent new cards & the correct card info 
 did show up without me doing anything.  Here is what Apple has to say: 
 
 While you can't change your card number or expiration date, it should 
 update automatically when you get a new card. If your issuer doesn't 
 support updates, you might need to remove the card, then add it again.
 
 John
 
 Sent from my iPhone
 
> On Nov 3, 2017, at 7:05 PM, Harry Jacobson-Beyer  wrote:
> 
> I guess this question is for John,
> 
> One of my credit cards associated with Apple Pay has a new expiration 
> date and a new CVC code.
> 
> I don’t see any way to update the card within my Wallet. If I delete the 
> card and reenter the card with my new info I also delete my transaction 
> history.
> 
> Is there any way to update the card without deleting it and deleting the 
> transaction history?
> 
> Or is there a way to export the transaction history?
> 
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I was at Kroger on Goss Ave. yesterday. I asked if they took Apple Pay and was 
told yes, but it doesn’t always work. And it didn’t. There were a lot of people 
in line behind me, so I just used my credit card.

I have four cards in Apple Pay - all from different banks.

But I primarily use just one, because I get more money back for using it.

I’ll keep trying. Does the cashier have to do something before the card will be 
accepted?

When we were in restaurants in Europe when it came time to pay the bill, the 
waiter would bring a machine to the table. My card never left my site and Apple 
Pay was taken everywhere!

> On Nov 3, 2017, at 7:45 PM, John Robinson  wrote:
> 
> Well, I understand they allow 1 phone call from the hokey!   
> 
> At least if your standing in line & it doesn’t work you can quickly change to 
> a card that hasn’t been updated & then work on updating when you get home.  
> 
> I have a Chase Debit, Chase Credit, Capital One, & State Farm cards that are 
> all ApplePay on my iPhone & Apple Watch so hopefully I’ll have one that would 
> work.  
> 
> I’ve had times when it doesn’t work but that has been a problem with the 
> register.  At Meijer the Watch nor the phone would work, a manager was 
> called, who transferred by purchases to another register & it worked 
> perfectly. 
> 
> John
> 
> Sent from my iPhone
> 
>> On Nov 3, 2017, at 7:30 PM, Harry Jacobson-Beyer  wrote:
>> 
>> Thanks John. Let’s hope my bank has updated the info!
>>> On Nov 3, 2017, at 7:26 PM, John Robinson  
>>> wrote:
>>> 
>>> Harry, 
>>> 
>>> This is from the Apple site.  It’s a great question that I’ve not yet 
>>> faced, but this suggest your bank should do this for you.  I did have two 
>>> chip cards hacked & the two banks sent new cards & the correct card info 
>>> did show up without me doing anything.  Here is what Apple has to say: 
>>> 
>>> While you can't change your card number or expiration date, it should 
>>> update automatically when you get a new card. If your issuer doesn't 
>>> support updates, you might need to remove the card, then add it again.
>>> 
>>> John
>>> 
>>> Sent from my iPhone
>>> 
 On Nov 3, 2017, at 7:05 PM, Harry Jacobson-Beyer  wrote:
 
 I guess this question is for John,
 
 One of my credit cards associated with Apple Pay has a new expiration date 
 and a new CVC code.
 
 I don’t see any way to update the card within my Wallet. If I delete the 
 card and reenter the card with my new info I also delete my transaction 
 history.
 
 Is there any way to update the card without deleting it and deleting the 
 transaction history?
 
 Or is there a way to export the transaction history?
 
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[John Robinson]

Well, I understand they allow 1 phone call from the hokey!   

At least if your standing in line & it doesn’t work you can quickly change to a 
card that hasn’t been updated & then work on updating when you get home.  

I have a Chase Debit, Chase Credit, Capital One, & State Farm cards that are 
all ApplePay on my iPhone & Apple Watch so hopefully I’ll have one that would 
work.  

I’ve had times when it doesn’t work but that has been a problem with the 
register.  At Meijer the Watch nor the phone would work, a manager was called, 
who transferred by purchases to another register & it worked perfectly. 

John

Sent from my iPhone

> On Nov 3, 2017, at 7:30 PM, Harry Jacobson-Beyer  wrote:
> 
> Thanks John. Let’s hope my bank has updated the info!
>> On Nov 3, 2017, at 7:26 PM, John Robinson  wrote:
>> 
>> Harry, 
>> 
>> This is from the Apple site.  It’s a great question that I’ve not yet faced, 
>> but this suggest your bank should do this for you.  I did have two chip 
>> cards hacked & the two banks sent new cards & the correct card info did show 
>> up without me doing anything.  Here is what Apple has to say: 
>> 
>> While you can't change your card number or expiration date, it should update 
>> automatically when you get a new card. If your issuer doesn't support 
>> updates, you might need to remove the card, then add it again.
>> 
>> John
>> 
>> Sent from my iPhone
>> 
>>> On Nov 3, 2017, at 7:05 PM, Harry Jacobson-Beyer  wrote:
>>> 
>>> I guess this question is for John,
>>> 
>>> One of my credit cards associated with Apple Pay has a new expiration date 
>>> and a new CVC code.
>>> 
>>> I don’t see any way to update the card within my Wallet. If I delete the 
>>> card and reenter the card with my new info I also delete my transaction 
>>> history.
>>> 
>>> Is there any way to update the card without deleting it and deleting the 
>>> transaction history?
>>> 
>>> Or is there a way to export the transaction history?
>>> 
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Thanks John. Let’s hope my bank has updated the info!
> On Nov 3, 2017, at 7:26 PM, John Robinson  wrote:
> 
> Harry, 
> 
> This is from the Apple site.  It’s a great question that I’ve not yet faced, 
> but this suggest your bank should do this for you.  I did have two chip cards 
> hacked & the two banks sent new cards & the correct card info did show up 
> without me doing anything.  Here is what Apple has to say: 
> 
> While you can't change your card number or expiration date, it should update 
> automatically when you get a new card. If your issuer doesn't support 
> updates, you might need to remove the card, then add it again.
> 
> John
> 
> Sent from my iPhone
> 
>> On Nov 3, 2017, at 7:05 PM, Harry Jacobson-Beyer  wrote:
>> 
>> I guess this question is for John,
>> 
>> One of my credit cards associated with Apple Pay has a new expiration date 
>> and a new CVC code.
>> 
>> I don’t see any way to update the card within my Wallet. If I delete the 
>> card and reenter the card with my new info I also delete my transaction 
>> history.
>> 
>> Is there any way to update the card without deleting it and deleting the 
>> transaction history?
>> 
>> Or is there a way to export the transaction history?
>> 
>> Thanks.
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Harry, 

This is from the Apple site.  It’s a great question that I’ve not yet faced, 
but this suggest your bank should do this for you.  I did have two chip cards 
hacked & the two banks sent new cards & the correct card info did show up 
without me doing anything.  Here is what Apple has to say: 

While you can't change your card number or expiration date, it should update 
automatically when you get a new card. If your issuer doesn't support updates, 
you might need to remove the card, then add it again.

John

Sent from my iPhone

> On Nov 3, 2017, at 7:05 PM, Harry Jacobson-Beyer  wrote:
> 
> I guess this question is for John,
> 
> One of my credit cards associated with Apple Pay has a new expiration date 
> and a new CVC code.
> 
> I don’t see any way to update the card within my Wallet. If I delete the card 
> and reenter the card with my new info I also delete my transaction history.
> 
> Is there any way to update the card without deleting it and deleting the 
> transaction history?
> 
> Or is there a way to export the transaction history?
> 
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I guess this question is for John,

One of my credit cards associated with Apple Pay has a new expiration date and 
a new CVC code.

I don’t see any way to update the card within my Wallet. If I delete the card 
and reenter the card with my new info I also delete my transaction history.

Is there any way to update the card without deleting it and deleting the 
transaction history?

Or is there a way to export the transaction history?

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“If mama ain’t happy, ain't no one happy.”


> On Oct 9, 2017, at 5:19 PM, John Robinson  wrote:
> 
> You’re right Harry, rule#1, keep them happy, we dated 2 years & have been 
> married 54.   I learned my place early. 
> 
> John. 
> 
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>> On Oct 9, 2017, at 5:09 PM, Harry Jacobson-Beyer  wrote:
>> 
>> John,
>> Thanks.
>> 
>> Regarding Europe, I know it was the credit card company’s snafu and wasn’t 
>> Apple Pay but I’ve got to take care of my Bride and keep her happy!
>> 

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Your right Harry, rule#1, keep them happy, we dated 2 years & have been married 
54.   I learned my place early. 

John. 

Sent from my iPhone

> On Oct 9, 2017, at 5:09 PM, Harry Jacobson-Beyer  wrote:
> 
> John,
> Thanks.
> 
> Regarding Europe, I know it was the credit card company’s snafu and wasn’t 
> Apple Pay but I’ve got to take care of my Bride and keep her happy!
> 
> 
> 
>> On Oct 9, 2017, at 3:59 PM, John Robinson  wrote:
>> 
>> Harry,
>> 
>> Collect the latest data on the use of ApplePay, use the dollar numbers, not 
>> percentages…it’s something like 12% of Apple users avail themselves of the 
>> service…UGH….then go to the firm and explain what it means to serve the 
>> Apple consumer.  I also use data showing what Apple User’s mean to a 
>> retailer vs the Android folks…good grief, Android is miles ahead of Apple is 
>> number of units but only a fraction of spending compared to the Apple 
>> User….let the firms know this…Apple means sales, they don’t know this, even 
>> the large firms don’t completely understand…thus if the Apple User’s would 
>> mount up and start using this the stats would get EVERY vendor’s attention.
>> 
>> I doubt if ApplePay caused your problem in Europe for some reason those 
>> folks are eager to adopt the service, it’s because your card company hadn’t 
>> done their job….but I understand your wife’s fear…
>> 
>> John
>> 
>> 
>>> On Oct 9, 2017, at 3:51 PM, Harry Jacobson-Beyer  wrote:
>>> 
>>> John what is the explanation “in dollar terms” to use when I contact Costco?
>>> 
>>> BTW, I was in Europe the last three weeks and Apple Pay was accepted most 
>>> places HOWEVER, I used it when I first got there and the next time I tried 
>>> to use it the card was denied. 
>>> 
>>> Previous to going to Europe my wife had contacted the credit card company, 
>>> twice, to let them know we were going to be in Europe but they hadn’t made 
>>> note of it. Well, we got it straightened out. BUT
>>> 
>>> My wife is “The Great Worrier” and she associated the card not working with 
>>> my use of Apple pay. To keep her happy, and much to my frustration, I 
>>> didn’t use Apple Pay in Europe. 
>>> 
>>> When she gets like that, there is not stopping her from worrying and 
>>> freaking out. But it’s all good now.
>>> 
>>> John, Thanks for persisting with your Apple Pay rants. You got me using it.
>>> 
>>> Harry
>>> 
>>> 
 On Oct 9, 2017, at 3:42 PM, John Robinson  
 wrote:
 
 The way I do it is strap myself into the chair, go to their site, find the 
 “contact” and EXPLAIN in Dollar terms what it means to give up 
 ApplePay…I’ve done this over and over…getting great results.  We have a 
 “build your own” Pizza joint that makes great pizza’s, they used to take 
 ApplePay, then stopped…I wrote to the owner several times, and of all 
 things ApplePay is back.
 
 I had mentioned that the Essential Oils I had been buying from Amazon when 
 I went direct to the firm THEY offered ApplePay while Amazon doesn’t so I 
 purchased direct from them….amazingly they removed ApplePay and I felt it 
 was pressure from Amazon..but I wrote one of my letters anyway and they 
 replied with an apology and said they would have ApplePay back very soon.
 
 Firms want to make sales, I’ve told CVS Pharmacy several times that I’ll 
 move my account to Walgreens if they don’t offer ApplePay…my company makes 
 me use CVS now but when I retire I’ll sure move everything to their 
 competitor…
 
 If we continue our Paul Revere work it will pay off…and of all things the 
 number of people I find with an AppleWatch I almost ALWAYS ask them if 
 they use ApplePay….well, no, I’ve never set it up, WHY?  Well, I don’t 
 know…I feel most times it’s fear of working through it…if folks that are 
 Apple would all use this Apple would control most all the NFC banking…they 
 are the leader now but if the majority of Apple folks would do it then 
 darn near every establishment in the country would accept. AP….
 
 Just the past couple weeks we’ve had Equifax and Whole Foods hacked….folks 
 this is not acceptable…..we can’t do anything about Equifax, hopefully the 
 class action pain will be enough to either put them out of business or get 
 their act together, but the damage is done…BUT we don’t have to shop where 
 they don’t offer without making a ruckus...
 
 John
 
 
 
 
> On Oct 9, 2017, at 3:25 PM, Harry Jacobson-Beyer  wrote:
> 
> Trader Joe’s takes Apple Pay but Costco does not. Costco does, I was 
> told, take Samsung pay. What to do?
> 
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[Harry Jacobson-Beyer]

John,
Thanks.

Regarding Europe, I know it was the credit card company’s snafu and wasn’t 
Apple Pay but I’ve got to take care of my Bride and keep her happy!



> On Oct 9, 2017, at 3:59 PM, John Robinson  wrote:
> 
> Harry,
> 
> Collect the latest data on the use of ApplePay, use the dollar numbers, not 
> percentages…it’s something like 12% of Apple users avail themselves of the 
> service…UGH….then go to the firm and explain what it means to serve the Apple 
> consumer.  I also use data showing what Apple User’s mean to a retailer vs 
> the Android folks…good grief, Android is miles ahead of Apple is number of 
> units but only a fraction of spending compared to the Apple User….let the 
> firms know this…Apple means sales, they don’t know this, even the large firms 
> don’t completely understand…thus if the Apple User’s would mount up and start 
> using this the stats would get EVERY vendor’s attention.
> 
> I doubt if ApplePay caused your problem in Europe for some reason those folks 
> are eager to adopt the service, it’s because your card company hadn’t done 
> their job….but I understand your wife’s fear…
> 
> John
> 
> 
>> On Oct 9, 2017, at 3:51 PM, Harry Jacobson-Beyer  wrote:
>> 
>> John what is the explanation “in dollar terms” to use when I contact Costco?
>> 
>> BTW, I was in Europe the last three weeks and Apple Pay was accepted most 
>> places HOWEVER, I used it when I first got there and the next time I tried 
>> to use it the card was denied. 
>> 
>> Previous to going to Europe my wife had contacted the credit card company, 
>> twice, to let them know we were going to be in Europe but they hadn’t made 
>> note of it. Well, we got it straightened out. BUT
>> 
>> My wife is “The Great Worrier” and she associated the card not working with 
>> my use of Apple pay. To keep her happy, and much to my frustration, I didn’t 
>> use Apple Pay in Europe. 
>> 
>> When she gets like that, there is not stopping her from worrying and 
>> freaking out. But it’s all good now.
>> 
>> John, Thanks for persisting with your Apple Pay rants. You got me using it.
>> 
>> Harry
>> 
>> 
>>> On Oct 9, 2017, at 3:42 PM, John Robinson  
>>> wrote:
>>> 
>>> The way I do it is strap myself into the chair, go to their site, find the 
>>> “contact” and EXPLAIN in Dollar terms what it means to give up 
>>> ApplePay…I’ve done this over and over…getting great results.  We have a 
>>> “build your own” Pizza joint that makes great pizza’s, they used to take 
>>> ApplePay, then stopped…I wrote to the owner several times, and of all 
>>> things ApplePay is back.
>>> 
>>> I had mentioned that the Essential Oils I had been buying from Amazon when 
>>> I went direct to the firm THEY offered ApplePay while Amazon doesn’t so I 
>>> purchased direct from them….amazingly they removed ApplePay and I felt it 
>>> was pressure from Amazon..but I wrote one of my letters anyway and they 
>>> replied with an apology and said they would have ApplePay back very soon.
>>> 
>>> Firms want to make sales, I’ve told CVS Pharmacy several times that I’ll 
>>> move my account to Walgreens if they don’t offer ApplePay…my company makes 
>>> me use CVS now but when I retire I’ll sure move everything to their 
>>> competitor…
>>> 
>>> If we continue our Paul Revere work it will pay off…and of all things the 
>>> number of people I find with an AppleWatch I almost ALWAYS ask them if they 
>>> use ApplePay….well, no, I’ve never set it up, WHY?  Well, I don’t know…I 
>>> feel most times it’s fear of working through it…if folks that are Apple 
>>> would all use this Apple would control most all the NFC banking…they are 
>>> the leader now but if the majority of Apple folks would do it then darn 
>>> near every establishment in the country would accept. AP….
>>> 
>>> Just the past couple weeks we’ve had Equifax and Whole Foods hacked….folks 
>>> this is not acceptable…..we can’t do anything about Equifax, hopefully the 
>>> class action pain will be enough to either put them out of business or get 
>>> their act together, but the damage is done…BUT we don’t have to shop where 
>>> they don’t offer without making a ruckus...
>>> 
>>> John
>>> 
>>> 
>>> 
>>> 
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 Trader Joe’s takes Apple Pay but Costco does not. Costco does, I was told, 
 take Samsung pay. What to do?
 
 
 
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[John Robinson]

Harry,

Collect the latest data on the use of ApplePay, use the dollar numbers, not 
percentages…it’s something like 12% of Apple users avail themselves of the 
service…UGH….then go to the firm and explain what it means to serve the Apple 
consumer.  I also use data showing what Apple User’s mean to a retailer vs the 
Android folks…good grief, Android is miles ahead of Apple is number of units 
but only a fraction of spending compared to the Apple User….let the firms know 
this…Apple means sales, they don’t know this, even the large firms don’t 
completely understand…thus if the Apple User’s would mount up and start using 
this the stats would get EVERY vendor’s attention.

I doubt if ApplePay caused your problem in Europe for some reason those folks 
are eager to adopt the service, it’s because your card company hadn’t done 
their job….but I understand your wife’s fear…

John


> On Oct 9, 2017, at 3:51 PM, Harry Jacobson-Beyer  wrote:
> 
> John what is the explanation “in dollar terms” to use when I contact Costco?
> 
> BTW, I was in Europe the last three weeks and Apple Pay was accepted most 
> places HOWEVER, I used it when I first got there and the next time I tried to 
> use it the card was denied. 
> 
> Previous to going to Europe my wife had contacted the credit card company, 
> twice, to let them know we were going to be in Europe but they hadn’t made 
> note of it. Well, we got it straightened out. BUT
> 
> My wife is “The Great Worrier” and she associated the card not working with 
> my use of Apple pay. To keep her happy, and much to my frustration, I didn’t 
> use Apple Pay in Europe. 
> 
> When she gets like that, there is not stopping her from worrying and freaking 
> out. But it’s all good now.
> 
> John, Thanks for persisting with your Apple Pay rants. You got me using it.
> 
> Harry
> 
> 
>> On Oct 9, 2017, at 3:42 PM, John Robinson  wrote:
>> 
>> The way I do it is strap myself into the chair, go to their site, find the 
>> “contact” and EXPLAIN in Dollar terms what it means to give up ApplePay…I’ve 
>> done this over and over…getting great results.  We have a “build your own” 
>> Pizza joint that makes great pizza’s, they used to take ApplePay, then 
>> stopped…I wrote to the owner several times, and of all things ApplePay is 
>> back.
>> 
>> I had mentioned that the Essential Oils I had been buying from Amazon when I 
>> went direct to the firm THEY offered ApplePay while Amazon doesn’t so I 
>> purchased direct from them….amazingly they removed ApplePay and I felt it 
>> was pressure from Amazon..but I wrote one of my letters anyway and they 
>> replied with an apology and said they would have ApplePay back very soon.
>> 
>> Firms want to make sales, I’ve told CVS Pharmacy several times that I’ll 
>> move my account to Walgreens if they don’t offer ApplePay…my company makes 
>> me use CVS now but when I retire I’ll sure move everything to their 
>> competitor…
>> 
>> If we continue our Paul Revere work it will pay off…and of all things the 
>> number of people I find with an AppleWatch I almost ALWAYS ask them if they 
>> use ApplePay….well, no, I’ve never set it up, WHY?  Well, I don’t know…I 
>> feel most times it’s fear of working through it…if folks that are Apple 
>> would all use this Apple would control most all the NFC banking…they are the 
>> leader now but if the majority of Apple folks would do it then darn near 
>> every establishment in the country would accept. AP….
>> 
>> Just the past couple weeks we’ve had Equifax and Whole Foods hacked….folks 
>> this is not acceptable…..we can’t do anything about Equifax, hopefully the 
>> class action pain will be enough to either put them out of business or get 
>> their act together, but the damage is done…BUT we don’t have to shop where 
>> they don’t offer without making a ruckus...
>> 
>> John
>> 
>> 
>> 
>> 
>>> On Oct 9, 2017, at 3:25 PM, Harry Jacobson-Beyer  wrote:
>>> 
>>> Trader Joe’s takes Apple Pay but Costco does not. Costco does, I was told, 
>>> take Samsung pay. What to do?
>>> 
>>> 
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Re: [MacGroup] apple pay

[Harry Jacobson-Beyer]

John what is the explanation “in dollar terms” to use when I contact Costco?

BTW, I was in Europe the last three weeks and Apple Pay was accepted most 
places HOWEVER, I used it when I first got there and the next time I tried to 
use it the card was denied. 

Previous to going to Europe my wife had contacted the credit card company, 
twice, to let them know we were going to be in Europe but they hadn’t made note 
of it. Well, we got it straightened out. BUT

My wife is “The Great Worrier” and she associated the card not working with my 
use of Apple pay. To keep her happy, and much to my frustration, I didn’t use 
Apple Pay in Europe. 

When she gets like that, there is not stopping her from worrying and freaking 
out. But it’s all good now.

John, Thanks for persisting with your Apple Pay rants. You got me using it.

Harry


> On Oct 9, 2017, at 3:42 PM, John Robinson  wrote:
> 
> The way I do it is strap myself into the chair, go to their site, find the 
> “contact” and EXPLAIN in Dollar terms what it means to give up ApplePay…I’ve 
> done this over and over…getting great results.  We have a “build your own” 
> Pizza joint that makes great pizza’s, they used to take ApplePay, then 
> stopped…I wrote to the owner several times, and of all things ApplePay is 
> back.
> 
> I had mentioned that the Essential Oils I had been buying from Amazon when I 
> went direct to the firm THEY offered ApplePay while Amazon doesn’t so I 
> purchased direct from them….amazingly they removed ApplePay and I felt it was 
> pressure from Amazon..but I wrote one of my letters anyway and they replied 
> with an apology and said they would have ApplePay back very soon.
> 
> Firms want to make sales, I’ve told CVS Pharmacy several times that I’ll move 
> my account to Walgreens if they don’t offer ApplePay…my company makes me use 
> CVS now but when I retire I’ll sure move everything to their competitor…
> 
> If we continue our Paul Revere work it will pay off…and of all things the 
> number of people I find with an AppleWatch I almost ALWAYS ask them if they 
> use ApplePay….well, no, I’ve never set it up, WHY?  Well, I don’t know…I feel 
> most times it’s fear of working through it…if folks that are Apple would all 
> use this Apple would control most all the NFC banking…they are the leader now 
> but if the majority of Apple folks would do it then darn near every 
> establishment in the country would accept. AP….
> 
> Just the past couple weeks we’ve had Equifax and Whole Foods hacked….folks 
> this is not acceptable…..we can’t do anything about Equifax, hopefully the 
> class action pain will be enough to either put them out of business or get 
> their act together, but the damage is done…BUT we don’t have to shop where 
> they don’t offer without making a ruckus...
> 
> John
> 
> 
> 
> 
>> On Oct 9, 2017, at 3:25 PM, Harry Jacobson-Beyer  wrote:
>> 
>> Trader Joe’s takes Apple Pay but Costco does not. Costco does, I was told, 
>> take Samsung pay. What to do?
>> 
>> 
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The way I do it is strap myself into the chair, go to their site, find the 
“contact” and EXPLAIN in Dollar terms what it means to give up ApplePay…I’ve 
done this over and over…getting great results.  We have a “build your own” 
Pizza joint that makes great pizza’s, they used to take ApplePay, then 
stopped…I wrote to the owner several times, and of all things ApplePay is back.

I had mentioned that the Essential Oils I had been buying from Amazon when I 
went direct to the firm THEY offered ApplePay while Amazon doesn’t so I 
purchased direct from them….amazingly they removed ApplePay and I felt it was 
pressure from Amazon..but I wrote one of my letters anyway and they replied 
with an apology and said they would have ApplePay back very soon.

Firms want to make sales, I’ve told CVS Pharmacy several times that I’ll move 
my account to Walgreens if they don’t offer ApplePay…my company makes me use 
CVS now but when I retire I’ll sure move everything to their competitor…

If we continue our Paul Revere work it will pay off…and of all things the 
number of people I find with an AppleWatch I almost ALWAYS ask them if they use 
ApplePay….well, no, I’ve never set it up, WHY?  Well, I don’t know…I feel most 
times it’s fear of working through it…if folks that are Apple would all use 
this Apple would control most all the NFC banking…they are the leader now but 
if the majority of Apple folks would do it then darn near every establishment 
in the country would accept. AP….

Just the past couple weeks we’ve had Equifax and Whole Foods hacked….folks this 
is not acceptable…..we can’t do anything about Equifax, hopefully the class 
action pain will be enough to either put them out of business or get their act 
together, but the damage is done…BUT we don’t have to shop where they don’t 
offer without making a ruckus...

John




> On Oct 9, 2017, at 3:25 PM, Harry Jacobson-Beyer  wrote:
> 
> Trader Joe’s takes Apple Pay but Costco does not. Costco does, I was told, 
> take Samsung pay. What to do?
> 
> 
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Trader Joe’s takes Apple Pay but Costco does not. Costco does, I was told, take 
Samsung pay. What to do?



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Will it work if my phone is in airplane mode?

Sent from my iPhone

> On Sep 19, 2017, at 10:36 AM, John Robinson  
> wrote:
> 
> It's called NFC (near field communication).  
> 
> Totally different from either below.  You have to hold the watch or phone 
> close to the device 
> 
> John
> 
> Sent from my iPhone
> 
>> On Sep 19, 2017, at 10:09 AM, Harry Jacobson-Beyer  wrote:
>> 
>> What technology transfer data from your phone to the credit card reader in 
>> the store, Bluetooth? Wifi? 
>> 
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It's called NFC (near field communication).  

Totally different from either below.  You have to hold the watch or phone close 
to the device 

John

Sent from my iPhone

> On Sep 19, 2017, at 10:09 AM, Harry Jacobson-Beyer  wrote:
> 
> What technology transfer data from your phone to the credit card reader in 
> the store, Bluetooth? Wifi? 
> 
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[Harry Jacobson-Beyer]

What technology transfer data from your phone to the credit card reader in the 
store, Bluetooth? Wifi? 

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[Harry Jacobson-Beyer]

Dan & John,

I asked my wife if I could send you guys money and she said if I did she would 
send me north to the Wall (with just my shorts and tshirt for warmth. So I 
guess you shouldn’t wait on it.

:-)


> On Sep 18, 2017, at 4:29 PM, Dan  wrote:
> 
> And while you’re at it, Harry, why don’t you try sending me some money too? 
> $100 would do just fine, but if you want to send more, that’s okay too.
> 
> Dan
> 
>> On Sep 18, 2017, at 3:39 PM, John Robinson > > wrote:
>> 
>> Harry, I’m doing the Happy Dance, and just to be sure it’s working correctly 
>> once the new iOS is on our devices you might try sending me some money using 
>> iMessage…I’ll gladly help you walk through this next phase…
>> 
>> Once you begin to use, you’ll not want to go back…Remember be mentioning 
>> that I had purchased, through Amazon, an oil that is really helping with 
>> skin tone, then I went to the firm directly and I was able to order using 
>> ApplePay, it was fantastic…
>> 
>> Today I went back to the site and now ApplePay is gone…and I’m betting big 
>> that it’s because the link to this firm in the first place was through 
>> Amazon…which has forced them to remove ApplePay, Amazon wants our business 
>> and those firms associated with them have to bow to their demands….
>> 
>> I’ve written to them telling them I had four items ready to check out and I 
>> cancelled the order since ApplePay has been removed…I’m waiting for an 
>> answer, which of course won’t be the actual reason…
>> 
>> If we all push hard enough a little noise can go a long way….
>> 
>> Thanks Harry, looking forward to your iMessage transfer..
>> 
>> 
>> John
>> 
>> 
>> 
>>> On Sep 18, 2017, at 3:26 PM, Harry Jacobson-Beyer >> > wrote:
>>> 
>>> Hi Group and hi John,
>>> 
>>> Yesterday I set up my iPhone with Apple pay. Haven’t had an opportunity to 
>>> use it yet, but looking forward to doing so soon.
>>> 
>>> Harry
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[Dan]

And while you’re at it, Harry, why don’t you try sending me some money too? 
$100 would do just fine, but if you want to send more, that’s okay too.

Dan

> On Sep 18, 2017, at 3:39 PM, John Robinson  wrote:
> 
> Harry, I’m doing the Happy Dance, and just to be sure it’s working correctly 
> once the new iOS is on our devices you might try sending me some money using 
> iMessage…I’ll gladly help you walk through this next phase…
> 
> Once you begin to use, you’ll not want to go back…Remember be mentioning that 
> I had purchased, through Amazon, an oil that is really helping with skin 
> tone, then I went to the firm directly and I was able to order using 
> ApplePay, it was fantastic…
> 
> Today I went back to the site and now ApplePay is gone…and I’m betting big 
> that it’s because the link to this firm in the first place was through 
> Amazon…which has forced them to remove ApplePay, Amazon wants our business 
> and those firms associated with them have to bow to their demands….
> 
> I’ve written to them telling them I had four items ready to check out and I 
> cancelled the order since ApplePay has been removed…I’m waiting for an 
> answer, which of course won’t be the actual reason…
> 
> If we all push hard enough a little noise can go a long way….
> 
> Thanks Harry, looking forward to your iMessage transfer..
> 
> 
> John
> 
> 
> 
>> On Sep 18, 2017, at 3:26 PM, Harry Jacobson-Beyer > > wrote:
>> 
>> Hi Group and hi John,
>> 
>> Yesterday I set up my iPhone with Apple pay. Haven’t had an opportunity to 
>> use it yet, but looking forward to doing so soon.
>> 
>> Harry
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[John Robinson]

Harry, I’m doing the Happy Dance, and just to be sure it’s working correctly 
once the new iOS is on our devices you might try sending me some money using 
iMessage…I’ll gladly help you walk through this next phase…

Once you begin to use, you’ll not want to go back…Remember be mentioning that I 
had purchased, through Amazon, an oil that is really helping with skin tone, 
then I went to the firm directly and I was able to order using ApplePay, it was 
fantastic…

Today I went back to the site and now ApplePay is gone…and I’m betting big that 
it’s because the link to this firm in the first place was through Amazon…which 
has forced them to remove ApplePay, Amazon wants our business and those firms 
associated with them have to bow to their demands….

I’ve written to them telling them I had four items ready to check out and I 
cancelled the order since ApplePay has been removed…I’m waiting for an answer, 
which of course won’t be the actual reason…

If we all push hard enough a little noise can go a long way….

Thanks Harry, looking forward to your iMessage transfer..


John



> On Sep 18, 2017, at 3:26 PM, Harry Jacobson-Beyer  wrote:
> 
> Hi Group and hi John,
> 
> Yesterday I set up my iPhone with Apple pay. Haven’t had an opportunity to 
> use it yet, but looking forward to doing so soon.
> 
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Hi Group and hi John,

Yesterday I set up my iPhone with Apple pay. Haven’t had an opportunity to use 
it yet, but looking forward to doing so soon.

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Oh Anne, bless your heart.   Look at the REAL abilities of the group, Lee, 
Jonathan, Ed,  etc. etc.  I am a user & call on the group as much anyone.  When 
you get that new iPhone start throwing out the questions!You'll get all the 
help you need.  Have a Merry Christmas all.  

John 

Sent from my iPhone

> On Dec 22, 2016, at 8:30 PM, Anne Cartwright  wrote:
> 
> John,
> 
> If I get an iPhone you are definitely going to have to start offering 
> classes. You are truly the master of it.
> 
> Anne
> 
> 
> 
>> On Dec 22, 2016, at 6:06 PM, John Robinson  wrote:
>> 
>> Richard,
>> 
>> 
>> Go to your WALLET, see my example below.  On the bottom are the “rewards” 
>> cards on top are the ApplePay cards.  The Capital One name is hidden just 
>> below the State Farm card.
>> 
>> See the + symbol in the upper right corner?  Click on that and follow the 
>> instructions to set up your card.  With one of my cards I had to call to 
>> verify it was me that was wanting to set it up, on another I had to tell 
>> them a code they had just sent to verify it was me, on two of them they just 
>> took the info and activated.
>> 
>> That’s all there is to it, but BEGIN with the Wallet.
>> 
>> John
>> 
>> 
>> 
>> 
>> 
>> 
>> 
>>> On Dec 22, 2016, at 5:43 PM, Richard D. Meadows  wrote:
>>> 
>>> I got a new card from my bank, one of dem thar chippy ones.  I went to my 
>>> iPhone and Settings, iTunes & App Store, Apple ID, View Apple ID, Payment 
>>> Information.  
>>> 
>>> Then put in the update (changes) from my new card. I have touched, DONE but 
>>> it does NOT keep the Security Code, and Expiration Date. 
>>> 
>>> Obviously it won’t work with out the info staying there.  
>>> 
>>> Help??
>>> 
>>> 
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John,

If I get an iPhone you are definitely going to have to start offering classes. 
You are truly the master of it.

Anne



> On Dec 22, 2016, at 6:06 PM, John Robinson  wrote:
> 
> Richard,
> 
> 
> Go to your WALLET, see my example below.  On the bottom are the “rewards” 
> cards on top are the ApplePay cards.  The Capital One name is hidden just 
> below the State Farm card.
> 
> See the + symbol in the upper right corner?  Click on that and follow the 
> instructions to set up your card.  With one of my cards I had to call to 
> verify it was me that was wanting to set it up, on another I had to tell them 
> a code they had just sent to verify it was me, on two of them they just took 
> the info and activated.
> 
> That’s all there is to it, but BEGIN with the Wallet.
> 
> John
> 
> 
> 
> 
> 
> 
> 
>> On Dec 22, 2016, at 5:43 PM, Richard D. Meadows > > wrote:
>> 
>> I got a new card from my bank, one of dem thar chippy ones.  I went to my 
>> iPhone and Settings, iTunes & App Store, Apple ID, View Apple ID, Payment 
>> Information.  
>> 
>> Then put in the update (changes) from my new card. I have touched, DONE but 
>> it does NOT keep the Security Code, and Expiration Date. 
>> 
>> Obviously it won’t work with out the info staying there.  
>> 
>> Help??
>> 
>> 
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[Richard D. Meadows]

I got a new card from my bank, one of dem thar chippy ones.  I went to my 
iPhone and Settings, iTunes & App Store, Apple ID, View Apple ID, Payment 
Information.  

Then put in the update (changes) from my new card. I have touched, DONE but it 
does NOT keep the Security Code, and Expiration Date. 

Obviously it won’t work with out the info staying there.  

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[John Robinson]

Draining the bank with Apple Pay, so much enjoyment paying with a Watch and 
looking at the people around you…they realize there is a weird person going 
through the line….

But what about ONLINE, I haven’t been able to use Apple Pay with an online 
vendor…until last night….and of all places?

I had called them twice asking for them to accept Apple Pay.

I had written twice, and all replies were they didn’t have intentions of moving 
that direction…well shucks…..

Then, an email, a notice that if you downloaded their App you could use Apple 
Pay for your bills, be it the Credit Card or paying on your accounts….

Who is this place that was not interested?  A large company?  Listening to 
their customers request?

STATE FARM, of all places, my employer.

So, I set up my bank with them online, and immediately went to the State Farm 
App….AND NOW I can logon  to my account using the fingerprint 
authentication….SO MUCH easier than remembering and typing my logon and 
password.  

Once into my account all the policies are listed and the bills…pick the bill 
you wish to pay.   Click or type in the amount you wish to pay and hit the 
Apple logo at the bottom which says “Apple Pay”…

Then it ask for my fingerprint and immediately the bill is paid….

I may be several decades into my allotted time but I still find this technology 
fascinating and so much easier to use….within seconds State Farm sent an email 
confirming my payment so now I have a record to attach to the file….

I guess it was a Valentines gift……

John


Apple Pay Coming Soon to Crate & Barrel, Chick-fil-A and Au Bon Pai



Thursday February 4, 2016 4:18 am PST by Tim Hardwick 



Apple Pay is now available at more than 2 million retail locations, with 
merchants such as Crate & Barrel, Chick-fil-A and Au Bon Pain set to accept the 
system in stores imminently, reports The Business Times 
.
 

Online clothing retailer Zappos.com also added Apple Pay to its iPhone and iPad 
apps on Tuesday, following a number of requests from customers to use the 
feature. 

The announcement by Apple comes alongside news that the mobile payment service 
exceeded the company's goal to make it available at 1.5 million locations by 
the end of 2015. In-app purchases using the service also more than doubled in 
the last six months of 2015 compared with the first half, says the company. 

Apple Pay is set to expand to China 
 
early this year, making it the fifth country to adopt the payments service 
since its U.S. launch in October 2014. The service expanded to the United 
Kingdom in July 2015 
, 
followed by Australia 

 and Canada 

 last November in partnership with American Express. Hong Kong, Singapore and 
Spain 
 
are also expected to gain support later this year.




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[John Robinson]

Draining the bank with Apple Pay, so much enjoyment paying with a Watch and 
looking at the people around you…they realize there is a weird person going 
through the line….

But what about ONLINE, I haven’t been able to use Apple Pay with an online 
vendor…until last night….and of all places?

I had called them twice asking for them to accept Apple Pay.

I had written twice, and all replies were they didn’t have intentions of moving 
that direction…well shucks…..

Then, an email, a notice that if you downloaded their App you could use Apple 
Pay for your bills, be it the Credit Card or paying on your accounts….

Who is this place that was not interested?  A large company?  Listening to 
their customers request?

STATE FARM, of all places, my employer.

So, I set up my bank with them online, and immediately went to the State Farm 
App….AND NOW I can logon  to my account using the fingerprint 
authentication….SO MUCH easier than remembering and typing my logon and 
password.  

Once into my account all the policies are listed and the bills…pick the bill 
you wish to pay.   Click or type in the amount you wish to pay and hit the 
Apple logo at the bottom which says “Apple Pay”…

Then it ask for my fingerprint and immediately the bill is paid….

I may be several decades into my allotted time but I still find this technology 
fascinating and so much easier to use….within seconds State Farm sent an email 
confirming my payment so now I have a record to attach to the file….

I guess it was a Valentines gift……

John


Apple Pay Coming Soon to Crate & Barrel, Chick-fil-A and Au Bon Pai



Thursday February 4, 2016 4:18 am PST by Tim Hardwick 



Apple Pay is now available at more than 2 million retail locations, with 
merchants such as Crate & Barrel, Chick-fil-A and Au Bon Pain set to accept the 
system in stores imminently, reports The Business Times 
.
 

Online clothing retailer Zappos.com  also added Apple Pay 
to its iPhone and iPad apps on Tuesday, following a number of requests from 
customers to use the feature. 

The announcement by Apple comes alongside news that the mobile payment service 
exceeded the company's goal to make it available at 1.5 million locations by 
the end of 2015. In-app purchases using the service also more than doubled in 
the last six months of 2015 compared with the first half, says the company. 

Apple Pay is set to expand to China 
 
early this year, making it the fifth country to adopt the payments service 
since its U.S. launch in October 2014. The service expanded to the United 
Kingdom in July 2015 
, 
followed by Australia 

 and Canada 

 last November in partnership with American Express. Hong Kong, Singapore and 
Spain 
 
are also expected to gain support later this year.



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[John Robinson]

Tom,

Finally had the account established at Chase, entered the card today in the 
iPhone and linked to the Apple Watch.

Immediately went to Walgreen a couple doors from my office.

Checking out I held the watch to the reader and nothing, again and 
again…finally the clerk said…oh, my problem I had to hit “payments”.  The halo 
around the top of the reader lit with several blue LED lights and once I tilted 
the watch the transaction was in the blink of an eye…instantly it was complete.

A single use does not make for a well documented study but I wanted you to know 
I hadn’t forgotten your question.   Funny, when I walked away the lady in line 
behind me ask the clerk…..what did he just do?  The clerk said I paid for the 
merchandise with my iPhone….well, maybe but this is so new no one knows what’s 
going on.

I also went back to my old bank to change my account, I thought by not doing 
any transactions, drawing it down to a bare minimum I might have fees….no, not 
a one, but when I explained to the new branch manager (a young guy...should 
have known about these things…and he uses and iPhone and iPad) WHY I was doing 
this he didn’t have a clue what Apple Pay was.  He listened with great interest 
and said he was excited for himself and hopefully down the road for his bank.

It’s up to us to educate these folks and use the system like crazy to build our 
brand and at the same time protect our security.


John



> On Sep 18, 2015, at 2:40 AM, tom holloman  wrote:
> 
> has anyone besides me had trouble with Apple watch using Apple Pay? I have 
> tried many times and nothing happens. I have to take iphone out to complete. 
> The watch gives message to tap side button twice and hold close to reader, 
> but nothing happens.
> 
> On Tue, Sep 15, 2015 at 5:27 PM, John Robinson  > wrote:
> Thought I would send this along, if the banks in this area are not on board, 
> someone sure is.
> 
> John
> 
> 
> 
> 
> 
> 
> 
> TECH  APPLE  See the 
> Fortune 500 list 
> Report: Contactless payments will grow by 100% in 2015
>   by  Leena Rao  @leenarao 
>  SEPTEMBER 7, 2015, 1:16 PM EDT
> 
> 
> 
> As Apple Pay grows, more shoppers are using contactless payments to purchase 
> items in stores.
> Thanks to Apple’s mobile payments push, Apple Pay, contactless payments are 
> on the rise, according to a new report issued from market researcher Juniper 
> Research.
> 
> For background, contactless payments let shoppers wave their mobile phone in 
> front of a reader at the cash register to make a payment. Their credit card 
> is automatically billed without them having to take it out of their wallet. 
> Apple debuted Apple Pay last year to enable iOS devices to make contactless 
> payments.
> 
> Apple APPL 0.00%  CEO Tim Cook has said 
> that Apple Pay will be accepted by 1.5 million locations in the U.S. by the 
> end of 2015. During Apple’s earnings call in January of this year, Cook 
> revealed 
> 
>  that Apple Pay made up two out of three dollars spent on purchases using 
> contactless payments across the major credit card companies, including Visa, 
> MasterCard, and American Express.
> 
> Juniper Research supports Cook’s data, and says that the number of mobile 
> wallets using contactless technology is expected to reach 200 million by the 
> end of 2016, up 100% from the end of 2014.
> 
> Whats more, the launch of Apple Pay has helped spur the growth in contactless 
> payments over the past year. Google GOOG 1.91%  
> also debuted its contactless mobile 
> payments technology, Android Pay, earlier this year and is expected to roll 
> the service out broadly in the next few weeks. 
> 
> The report also highlighted the weakness of rival contactless payments 
> technologies, including Merchant Customer Exchange (MCX), a mobile payments 
> system that is being developed by a group of merchants, such as CVS, Target, 
> Best Buy, and Walmart.
> 
> Called CurrentC, MCX’s technology allows retailers to have access to valuable 
> customer data from transactions. But CurrentC has had stumbles along the way, 
> including succumbing to a security hack 
> , and a delayed 
> rollout, according to Re/Code. 
> 
> 
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Re: [MacGroup] Apple Pay Version 2

[chubacha]

Thanks.
I went to Maui last week and tried the watch to pay at McDonald's,whole foods. 
Didn't work. iPhone worked fine. 
Anxious to see what your experience is. 
So far, no place on Molokai takes Apple Pay.

> On Sep 17, 2015, at 11:27 PM, John Robinson  wrote:
> 
> Tom, 
> 
> I spent 90 min completing everything at Chase yesterday .  I am supposed to 
> have their card in a few days.  As soon as it arrives I am going to go to 
> Walgreens, Starbucks, Whole Foods, Best Buy & see.   I'll let you know.  
> 
> John
> 
> Sent from my iPhone
> 
>> On Sep 18, 2015, at 2:40 AM, tom holloman  wrote:
>> 
>> has anyone besides me had trouble with Apple watch using Apple Pay? I have 
>> tried many times and nothing happens. I have to take iphone out to complete. 
>> The watch gives message to tap side button twice and hold close to reader, 
>> but nothing happens.
>> 
>>> On Tue, Sep 15, 2015 at 5:27 PM, John Robinson  
>>> wrote:
>>> Thought I would send this along, if the banks in this area are not on 
>>> board, someone sure is.
>>> 
>>> John
>>> 
>>> 
>>> 
>>> 
>>> 
>>> 
>>> 
>>> TECH APPLE See the Fortune 500 list
>>> Report: Contactless payments will grow by 100% in 2015
>>> by  Leena Rao @leenarao SEPTEMBER 7, 2015, 1:16 PM EDT
>>> 
>>> 
>>> 
>>> As Apple Pay grows, more shoppers are using contactless payments to 
>>> purchase items in stores.
>>> Thanks to Apple’s mobile payments push, Apple Pay, contactless payments are 
>>> on the rise, according to a new report issued from market researcher 
>>> Juniper Research.
>>> 
>>> For background, contactless payments let shoppers wave their mobile phone 
>>> in front of a reader at the cash register to make a payment. Their credit 
>>> card is automatically billed without them having to take it out of their 
>>> wallet. Apple debuted Apple Pay last year to enable iOS devices to make 
>>> contactless payments.
>>> 
>>> Apple APPL 0.00% CEO Tim Cook has said that Apple Pay will be accepted by 
>>> 1.5 million locations in the U.S. by the end of 2015. During Apple’s 
>>> earnings call in January of this year, Cook revealed that Apple Pay made up 
>>> two out of three dollars spent on purchases using contactless payments 
>>> across the major credit card companies, including Visa, MasterCard, and 
>>> American Express.
>>> 
>>> Juniper Research supports Cook’s data, and says that the number of mobile 
>>> wallets using contactless technology is expected to reach 200 million by 
>>> the end of 2016, up 100% from the end of 2014.
>>> 
>>> Whats more, the launch of Apple Pay has helped spur the growth in 
>>> contactless payments over the past year. Google GOOG 1.91% also debuted its 
>>> contactless mobile payments technology, Android Pay, earlier this year and 
>>> is expected to roll the service out broadly in the next few weeks. 
>>> 
>>> The report also highlighted the weakness of rival contactless payments 
>>> technologies, including Merchant Customer Exchange (MCX), a mobile payments 
>>> system that is being developed by a group of merchants, such as CVS, 
>>> Target, Best Buy, and Walmart.
>>> 
>>> Called CurrentC, MCX’s technology allows retailers to have access to 
>>> valuable customer data from transactions. But CurrentC has had stumbles 
>>> along the way, including succumbing to a security hack, and a delayed 
>>> rollout, according to Re/Code.
>>> 
>>> 
>>> 
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Re: [MacGroup] Apple Pay Version 2

[Tom]

Thanks. Glad it works for some. Maybe mine is defective. I'll go to Genius Bar 
next time in city that has one. 

> On Oct 2, 2015, at 2:38 PM, John Robinson  wrote:
> 
> Tom,
> 
> Finally had the account established at Chase, entered the card today in the 
> iPhone and linked to the Apple Watch.
> 
> Immediately went to Walgreen a couple doors from my office.
> 
> Checking out I held the watch to the reader and nothing, again and 
> again…finally the clerk said…oh, my problem I had to hit “payments”.  The 
> halo around the top of the reader lit with several blue LED lights and once I 
> tilted the watch the transaction was in the blink of an eye…instantly it was 
> complete.
> 
> A single use does not make for a well documented study but I wanted you to 
> know I hadn’t forgotten your question.   Funny, when I walked away the lady 
> in line behind me ask the clerk…..what did he just do?  The clerk said I paid 
> for the merchandise with my iPhone….well, maybe but this is so new no one 
> knows what’s going on.
> 
> I also went back to my old bank to change my account, I thought by not doing 
> any transactions, drawing it down to a bare minimum I might have fees….no, 
> not a one, but when I explained to the new branch manager (a young 
> guy...should have known about these things…and he uses and iPhone and iPad) 
> WHY I was doing this he didn’t have a clue what Apple Pay was.  He listened 
> with great interest and said he was excited for himself and hopefully down 
> the road for his bank.
> 
> It’s up to us to educate these folks and use the system like crazy to build 
> our brand and at the same time protect our security.
> 
> 
> John
> 
> 
> 
>> On Sep 18, 2015, at 2:40 AM, tom holloman  wrote:
>> 
>> has anyone besides me had trouble with Apple watch using Apple Pay? I have 
>> tried many times and nothing happens. I have to take iphone out to complete. 
>> The watch gives message to tap side button twice and hold close to reader, 
>> but nothing happens.
>> 
>> On Tue, Sep 15, 2015 at 5:27 PM, John Robinson  
>> wrote:
>>> Thought I would send this along, if the banks in this area are not on 
>>> board, someone sure is.
>>> 
>>> John
>>> 
>>> 
>>> 
>>> 
>>> 
>>> 
>>> 
>>> TECH APPLE See the Fortune 500 list
>>> Report: Contactless payments will grow by 100% in 2015
>>> by  Leena Rao @leenarao SEPTEMBER 7, 2015, 1:16 PM EDT
>>> 
>>> 
>>> 
>>> As Apple Pay grows, more shoppers are using contactless payments to 
>>> purchase items in stores.
>>> Thanks to Apple’s mobile payments push, Apple Pay, contactless payments are 
>>> on the rise, according to a new report issued from market researcher 
>>> Juniper Research.
>>> 
>>> For background, contactless payments let shoppers wave their mobile phone 
>>> in front of a reader at the cash register to make a payment. Their credit 
>>> card is automatically billed without them having to take it out of their 
>>> wallet. Apple debuted Apple Pay last year to enable iOS devices to make 
>>> contactless payments.
>>> 
>>> Apple APPL 0.00% CEO Tim Cook has said that Apple Pay will be accepted by 
>>> 1.5 million locations in the U.S. by the end of 2015. During Apple’s 
>>> earnings call in January of this year, Cook revealed that Apple Pay made up 
>>> two out of three dollars spent on purchases using contactless payments 
>>> across the major credit card companies, including Visa, MasterCard, and 
>>> American Express.
>>> 
>>> Juniper Research supports Cook’s data, and says that the number of mobile 
>>> wallets using contactless technology is expected to reach 200 million by 
>>> the end of 2016, up 100% from the end of 2014.
>>> 
>>> Whats more, the launch of Apple Pay has helped spur the growth in 
>>> contactless payments over the past year. Google GOOG 1.91% also debuted its 
>>> contactless mobile payments technology, Android Pay, earlier this year and 
>>> is expected to roll the service out broadly in the next few weeks. 
>>> 
>>> The report also highlighted the weakness of rival contactless payments 
>>> technologies, including Merchant Customer Exchange (MCX), a mobile payments 
>>> system that is being developed by a group of merchants, such as CVS, 
>>> Target, Best Buy, and Walmart.
>>> 
>>> Called CurrentC, MCX’s technology allows retailers to have access to 
>>> valuable customer data from transactions. But CurrentC has had stumbles 
>>> along the way, including succumbing to a security hack, and a delayed 
>>> rollout, according to Re/Code.
>>> 
>>> 
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Re: [MacGroup] Apple Pay Version 2

[Chris Denny]

For me it's been dependent on the terminal I'm using. Office Depot terminal 
came up quick, Walgreens was slower.

Sent from my iPhone

> On Sep 18, 2015, at 5:27 AM, John Robinson  wrote:
> 
> Tom, 
> 
> I spent 90 min completing everything at Chase yesterday .  I am supposed to 
> have their card in a few days.  As soon as it arrives I am going to go to 
> Walgreens, Starbucks, Whole Foods, Best Buy & see.   I'll let you know.  
> 
> John
> 
> Sent from my iPhone
> 
>> On Sep 18, 2015, at 2:40 AM, tom holloman  wrote:
>> 
>> has anyone besides me had trouble with Apple watch using Apple Pay? I have 
>> tried many times and nothing happens. I have to take iphone out to complete. 
>> The watch gives message to tap side button twice and hold close to reader, 
>> but nothing happens.
>> 
>>> On Tue, Sep 15, 2015 at 5:27 PM, John Robinson  
>>> wrote:
>>> Thought I would send this along, if the banks in this area are not on 
>>> board, someone sure is.
>>> 
>>> John
>>> 
>>> 
>>> 
>>> 
>>> 
>>> 
>>> 
>>> TECH APPLE See the Fortune 500 list
>>> Report: Contactless payments will grow by 100% in 2015
>>> by  Leena Rao @leenarao SEPTEMBER 7, 2015, 1:16 PM EDT
>>> 
>>> 
>>> 
>>> As Apple Pay grows, more shoppers are using contactless payments to 
>>> purchase items in stores.
>>> Thanks to Apple’s mobile payments push, Apple Pay, contactless payments are 
>>> on the rise, according to a new report issued from market researcher 
>>> Juniper Research.
>>> 
>>> For background, contactless payments let shoppers wave their mobile phone 
>>> in front of a reader at the cash register to make a payment. Their credit 
>>> card is automatically billed without them having to take it out of their 
>>> wallet. Apple debuted Apple Pay last year to enable iOS devices to make 
>>> contactless payments.
>>> 
>>> Apple APPL 0.00% CEO Tim Cook has said that Apple Pay will be accepted by 
>>> 1.5 million locations in the U.S. by the end of 2015. During Apple’s 
>>> earnings call in January of this year, Cook revealed that Apple Pay made up 
>>> two out of three dollars spent on purchases using contactless payments 
>>> across the major credit card companies, including Visa, MasterCard, and 
>>> American Express.
>>> 
>>> Juniper Research supports Cook’s data, and says that the number of mobile 
>>> wallets using contactless technology is expected to reach 200 million by 
>>> the end of 2016, up 100% from the end of 2014.
>>> 
>>> Whats more, the launch of Apple Pay has helped spur the growth in 
>>> contactless payments over the past year. Google GOOG 1.91% also debuted its 
>>> contactless mobile payments technology, Android Pay, earlier this year and 
>>> is expected to roll the service out broadly in the next few weeks. 
>>> 
>>> The report also highlighted the weakness of rival contactless payments 
>>> technologies, including Merchant Customer Exchange (MCX), a mobile payments 
>>> system that is being developed by a group of merchants, such as CVS, 
>>> Target, Best Buy, and Walmart.
>>> 
>>> Called CurrentC, MCX’s technology allows retailers to have access to 
>>> valuable customer data from transactions. But CurrentC has had stumbles 
>>> along the way, including succumbing to a security hack, and a delayed 
>>> rollout, according to Re/Code.
>>> 
>>> 
>>> 
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Re: [MacGroup] Apple Pay Version 2

[Chris Denny]

Yeah we have an account there too, their excuse is no one is requested Apple 
Pay' which is garbage.

Sent from my iPhone

> On Sep 16, 2015, at 11:54 PM, Richard D. Meadows  wrote:
> 
> My bank, Stock Yards Bank & Trust SYB.com is not.  :(   Now if you happen to 
> bank there please do send them a missive about getting on board. 
> 
> I am unfortunately looking at moving my accounts to another bank that is. 
> 
> Richard
> 
> 
> Richard D. Meadows
> Co-Founder & CCO
> Berndows Enterprise LLC
> rmead...@gmail.com
> 502-593-5830
> www.berndowsenterprise.com
> @HackerHostelLou 
> 
>> On Sep 15, 2015, at 11:27 PM, John Robinson  wrote:
>> 
>> Thought I would send this along, if the banks in this area are not on board, 
>> someone sure is.
>> 
>> John
>> 
>> 
>> 
>> 
>> 
>> 
>> 
>> TECH APPLE See the Fortune 500 list
>> Report: Contactless payments will grow by 100% in 2015
>>  by  Leena Rao @leenarao SEPTEMBER 7, 2015, 1:16 PM EDT
>> 
>> 
>> 
>> As Apple Pay grows, more shoppers are using contactless payments to purchase 
>> items in stores.
>> Thanks to Apple’s mobile payments push, Apple Pay, contactless payments are 
>> on the rise, according to a new report issued from market researcher Juniper 
>> Research.
>> 
>> For background, contactless payments let shoppers wave their mobile phone in 
>> front of a reader at the cash register to make a payment. Their credit card 
>> is automatically billed without them having to take it out of their wallet. 
>> Apple debuted Apple Pay last year to enable iOS devices to make contactless 
>> payments.
>> 
>> Apple APPL 0.00% CEO Tim Cook has said that Apple Pay will be accepted by 
>> 1.5 million locations in the U.S. by the end of 2015. During Apple’s 
>> earnings call in January of this year, Cook revealed that Apple Pay made up 
>> two out of three dollars spent on purchases using contactless payments 
>> across the major credit card companies, including Visa, MasterCard, and 
>> American Express.
>> 
>> Juniper Research supports Cook’s data, and says that the number of mobile 
>> wallets using contactless technology is expected to reach 200 million by the 
>> end of 2016, up 100% from the end of 2014.
>> 
>> Whats more, the launch of Apple Pay has helped spur the growth in 
>> contactless payments over the past year. Google GOOG 1.91% also debuted its 
>> contactless mobile payments technology, Android Pay, earlier this year and 
>> is expected to roll the service out broadly in the next few weeks. 
>> 
>> The report also highlighted the weakness of rival contactless payments 
>> technologies, including Merchant Customer Exchange (MCX), a mobile payments 
>> system that is being developed by a group of merchants, such as CVS, Target, 
>> Best Buy, and Walmart.
>> 
>> Called CurrentC, MCX’s technology allows retailers to have access to 
>> valuable customer data from transactions. But CurrentC has had stumbles 
>> along the way, including succumbing to a security hack, and a delayed 
>> rollout, according to Re/Code.
>> 
>> 
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Re: [MacGroup] Apple Pay

[Eugene Wiser (ConAgra Foods)]

John PNC offers it. Though since they updated my debit card with an NFC chip I 
have not been able to use it.

Still trying to figure out the issue since the account # is the same>:?


From: macgroup-boun...@erdos.math.louisville.edu 
[macgroup-boun...@erdos.math.louisville.edu] on behalf of Richard D. Meadows 
[rmead...@gmail.com]
Sent: Tuesday, September 15, 2015 8:14 PM
To: Group MAC
Subject: Re: [MacGroup] Apple Pay

if you can figure out how the UofL Foundation can get a kickback for going 
Apple Pay so they can fork over more money to Jim Ramsey that might help get 
banks here in town get on board.  Just saying.


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On Sep 15, 2015, at 8:43 PM, John Robinson 
<profilecoven...@me.com<mailto:profilecoven...@me.com>> wrote:

Today I went to Chase to open an account with them since they offer Apple Pay.

The account manager I talked with knew little about the benefits even though it 
was Chase that worked with Apple to develop the system.

In fact, she said I was the first person in their bank to even ask about it!!  
The bank I am leaving had promised since January to have it but now they say 
they don’t think many of their folks are interested in moving this direction.

Bummer, we Mac folks should be pushing our banking institutions to adapt the 
Apple system, it’s by far the safest, everyone is kept out of the loop, the 
merchant doesn’t know anything about us, Apple doesn’t know anything about the 
transaction and of course the hacker, should he break into the store we just 
left, will not even know we were there.

I guess we are not as “tech" in this area for in many parts of the country the 
system is taking off like crazy….The University Of Oklahoma has gone Apple Pay 
for the entire institution with another 700 colleges and Universities set to 
establish the same for their folks.

We can make a difference we we make a little noise.

John




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Re: [MacGroup] Apple Pay Version 2

[Chris Denny]

So, if your looking for a bank with Apple Pay, I use Simple. (This is not a 
paid announcement) 
I love Simple, they have eliminated all fees, it’s used straight from my 
iPhone, I can go to any  PNC bank and take money out and it costs me nothing. 
Apple Pay works great. https://www.simple.com   It’s 
the first bank I am aware of that is derived straight from the iPhone. Cost me 
nothing to join and I can link any other bank account I have with them. It’s 
just been a great bank to use.



> On Sep 15, 2015, at 11:27 PM, John Robinson  wrote:
> 
> Thought I would send this along, if the banks in this area are not on board, 
> someone sure is.
> 
> John
> 
> 
> 
> 
> 
> 
> 
> TECH  APPLE  See the 
> Fortune 500 list 
> Report: Contactless payments will grow by 100% in 2015
>   by  Leena Rao  @leenarao 
>  SEPTEMBER 7, 2015, 1:16 PM EDT
> 
> 
> 
> As Apple Pay grows, more shoppers are using contactless payments to purchase 
> items in stores.
> Thanks to Apple’s mobile payments push, Apple Pay, contactless payments are 
> on the rise, according to a new report issued from market researcher Juniper 
> Research.
> 
> For background, contactless payments let shoppers wave their mobile phone in 
> front of a reader at the cash register to make a payment. Their credit card 
> is automatically billed without them having to take it out of their wallet. 
> Apple debuted Apple Pay last year to enable iOS devices to make contactless 
> payments.
> 
> Apple APPL 0.00%  CEO Tim Cook has said 
> that Apple Pay will be accepted by 1.5 million locations in the U.S. by the 
> end of 2015. During Apple’s earnings call in January of this year, Cook 
> revealed 
> 
>  that Apple Pay made up two out of three dollars spent on purchases using 
> contactless payments across the major credit card companies, including Visa, 
> MasterCard, and American Express.
> 
> Juniper Research supports Cook’s data, and says that the number of mobile 
> wallets using contactless technology is expected to reach 200 million by the 
> end of 2016, up 100% from the end of 2014.
> 
> Whats more, the launch of Apple Pay has helped spur the growth in contactless 
> payments over the past year. Google GOOG 1.91%  
> also debuted its contactless mobile 
> payments technology, Android Pay, earlier this year and is expected to roll 
> the service out broadly in the next few weeks. 
> 
> The report also highlighted the weakness of rival contactless payments 
> technologies, including Merchant Customer Exchange (MCX), a mobile payments 
> system that is being developed by a group of merchants, such as CVS, Target, 
> Best Buy, and Walmart.
> 
> Called CurrentC, MCX’s technology allows retailers to have access to valuable 
> customer data from transactions. But CurrentC has had stumbles along the way, 
> including succumbing to a security hack 
> , and a delayed 
> rollout, according to Re/Code. 
> 
> 
> 
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Re: [MacGroup] Apple Pay Version 2

[John Robinson]

Thanks Chris, I haven’t heard of them but will start this morning checking them 
out.   Appreciate it.

John


> On Sep 16, 2015, at 8:57 AM, Chris Denny  wrote:
> 
> So, if your looking for a bank with Apple Pay, I use Simple. (This is not a 
> paid announcement) 
> I love Simple, they have eliminated all fees, it’s used straight from my 
> iPhone, I can go to any  PNC bank and take money out and it costs me nothing. 
> Apple Pay works great. https://www.simple.com   It’s 
> the first bank I am aware of that is derived straight from the iPhone. Cost 
> me nothing to join and I can link any other bank account I have with them. 
> It’s just been a great bank to use.
> 
> 
> 
>> On Sep 15, 2015, at 11:27 PM, John Robinson > > wrote:
>> 
>> Thought I would send this along, if the banks in this area are not on board, 
>> someone sure is.
>> 
>> John
>> 
>> 
>> 
>> 
>> 
>> 
>> 
>> TECH  APPLE  See 
>> the Fortune 500 list 
>> Report: Contactless payments will grow by 100% in 2015
>>  by  Leena Rao  @leenarao 
>>  SEPTEMBER 7, 2015, 1:16 PM EDT
>> 
>> 
>> 
>> As Apple Pay grows, more shoppers are using contactless payments to purchase 
>> items in stores.
>> Thanks to Apple’s mobile payments push, Apple Pay, contactless payments are 
>> on the rise, according to a new report issued from market researcher Juniper 
>> Research.
>> 
>> For background, contactless payments let shoppers wave their mobile phone in 
>> front of a reader at the cash register to make a payment. Their credit card 
>> is automatically billed without them having to take it out of their wallet. 
>> Apple debuted Apple Pay last year to enable iOS devices to make contactless 
>> payments.
>> 
>> Apple APPL 0.00%  CEO Tim Cook has said 
>> that Apple Pay will be accepted by 1.5 million locations in the U.S. by the 
>> end of 2015. During Apple’s earnings call in January of this year, Cook 
>> revealed 
>> 
>>  that Apple Pay made up two out of three dollars spent on purchases using 
>> contactless payments across the major credit card companies, including Visa, 
>> MasterCard, and American Express.
>> 
>> Juniper Research supports Cook’s data, and says that the number of mobile 
>> wallets using contactless technology is expected to reach 200 million by the 
>> end of 2016, up 100% from the end of 2014.
>> 
>> Whats more, the launch of Apple Pay has helped spur the growth in 
>> contactless payments over the past year. Google GOOG 1.91%  
>> also debuted its contactless mobile 
>> payments technology, Android Pay, earlier this year and is expected to roll 
>> the service out broadly in the next few weeks. 
>> 
>> The report also highlighted the weakness of rival contactless payments 
>> technologies, including Merchant Customer Exchange (MCX), a mobile payments 
>> system that is being developed by a group of merchants, such as CVS, Target, 
>> Best Buy, and Walmart.
>> 
>> Called CurrentC, MCX’s technology allows retailers to have access to 
>> valuable customer data from transactions. But CurrentC has had stumbles 
>> along the way, including succumbing to a security hack 
>> , and a delayed 
>> rollout, according to Re/Code. 
>> 
>> 
>> 
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Re: [MacGroup] Apple Pay Version 2

[John Robinson]

Chris,

They have a great website, they are a super youthful organization, and they 
partner with a strong bank…I don’t know how comfortable this makes me.  On the 
link below are listed all the banks by assets, going down to bank number 6,357 
with assets of only $3,535.00.  This was as of 5/2015.  I couldn’t find Simple 
on the list, they did mention in their video they had 100,000 customers.  

So glad to know they are there and I will watch them to see how it goes, love 
they way they get to dress at work, what freedom.

John


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> On Sep 16, 2015, at 8:59 AM, John Robinson  wrote:
> 
> Thanks Chris, I haven’t heard of them but will start this morning checking 
> them out.   Appreciate it.
> 
> John
> 
> 
>> On Sep 16, 2015, at 8:57 AM, Chris Denny  wrote:
>> 
>> So, if your looking for a bank with Apple Pay, I use Simple. (This is not a 
>> paid announcement) 
>> I love Simple, they have eliminated all fees, it’s used straight from my 
>> iPhone, I can go to any  PNC bank and take money out and it costs me 
>> nothing. Apple Pay works great. https://www.simple.com 
>>   It’s the first bank I am aware of that is derived 
>> straight from the iPhone. Cost me nothing to join and I can link any other 
>> bank account I have with them. It’s just been a great bank to use.
>> 
>> 
>> 
>>> On Sep 15, 2015, at 11:27 PM, John Robinson >> > wrote:
>>> 
>>> Thought I would send this along, if the banks in this area are not on 
>>> board, someone sure is.
>>> 
>>> John
>>> 
>>> 
>>> 
>>> 
>>> 
>>> 
>>> 
>>> TECH  APPLE  See 
>>> the Fortune 500 list 
>>> Report: Contactless payments will grow by 100% in 2015
>>> by  Leena Rao  @leenarao 
>>>  SEPTEMBER 7, 2015, 1:16 PM EDT
>>> 
>>> 
>>> 
>>> As Apple Pay grows, more shoppers are using contactless payments to 
>>> purchase items in stores.
>>> Thanks to Apple’s mobile payments push, Apple Pay, contactless payments are 
>>> on the rise, according to a new report issued from market researcher 
>>> Juniper Research.
>>> 
>>> For background, contactless payments let shoppers wave their mobile phone 
>>> in front of a reader at the cash register to make a payment. Their credit 
>>> card is automatically billed without them having to take it out of their 
>>> wallet. Apple debuted Apple Pay last year to enable iOS devices to make 
>>> contactless payments.
>>> 
>>> Apple APPL 0.00%  CEO Tim Cook has said 
>>> that Apple Pay will be accepted by 1.5 million locations in the U.S. by the 
>>> end of 2015. During Apple’s earnings call in January of this year, Cook 
>>> revealed 
>>> 
>>>  that Apple Pay made up two out of three dollars spent on purchases using 
>>> contactless payments across the major credit card companies, including 
>>> Visa, MasterCard, and American Express.
>>> 
>>> Juniper Research supports Cook’s data, and says that the number of mobile 
>>> wallets using contactless technology is expected to reach 200 million by 
>>> the end of 2016, up 100% from the end of 2014.
>>> 
>>> Whats more, the launch of Apple Pay has helped spur the growth in 
>>> contactless payments over the past year. Google GOOG 1.91%  
>>> also debuted its contactless mobile 
>>> payments technology, Android Pay, earlier this year and is expected to roll 
>>> the service out broadly in the next few weeks. 
>>> 
>>> The report also highlighted the weakness of rival contactless payments 
>>> technologies, including Merchant Customer Exchange (MCX), a mobile payments 
>>> system that is being developed by a group of merchants, such as CVS, 
>>> Target, Best Buy, and Walmart.
>>> 
>>> Called CurrentC, MCX’s technology allows retailers to have access to 
>>> valuable customer data from transactions. But CurrentC has had stumbles 
>>> along the way, including succumbing to a security hack 
>>> , and a 
>>> delayed rollout, according to Re/Code. 
>>> 
>>> 
>>> 
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[Chris Denny]

I have been very happy with simple, I have been using them for close to two 
years and have never had a problem. They are a young bank but I think that they 
will grow to be an even better bank in the future, their CEO seems to be pretty 
top notch

Sent from my iPhone

> On Sep 16, 2015, at 11:05 AM, John Robinson  wrote:
> 
> Chris,
> 
> They have a great website, they are a super youthful organization, and they 
> partner with a strong bank…I don’t know how comfortable this makes me.  On 
> the link below are listed all the banks by assets, going down to bank number 
> 6,357 with assets of only $3,535.00.  This was as of 5/2015.  I couldn’t find 
> Simple on the list, they did mention in their video they had 100,000 
> customers.  
> 
> So glad to know they are there and I will watch them to see how it goes, love 
> they way they get to dress at work, what freedom.
> 
> John
> 
> 
> http://www.usbanklocations.com/bank-rank/total-assets.html?d=2015-06-30
> 
> 
> 
> 
> 
>> On Sep 16, 2015, at 8:59 AM, John Robinson  wrote:
>> 
>> Thanks Chris, I haven’t heard of them but will start this morning checking 
>> them out.   Appreciate it.
>> 
>> John
>> 
>> 
>>> On Sep 16, 2015, at 8:57 AM, Chris Denny  wrote:
>>> 
>>> So, if your looking for a bank with Apple Pay, I use Simple. (This is not a 
>>> paid announcement) 
>>> I love Simple, they have eliminated all fees, it’s used straight from my 
>>> iPhone, I can go to any  PNC bank and take money out and it costs me 
>>> nothing. Apple Pay works great. https://www.simple.com  It’s the first bank 
>>> I am aware of that is derived straight from the iPhone. Cost me nothing to 
>>> join and I can link any other bank account I have with them. It’s just been 
>>> a great bank to use.
>>> 
>>> 
>>> 
 On Sep 15, 2015, at 11:27 PM, John Robinson  wrote:
 
 Thought I would send this along, if the banks in this area are not on 
 board, someone sure is.
 
 John
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 TECH APPLE See the Fortune 500 list
 Report: Contactless payments will grow by 100% in 2015
by  Leena Rao @leenarao SEPTEMBER 7, 2015, 1:16 PM EDT
 
 
 
 As Apple Pay grows, more shoppers are using contactless payments to 
 purchase items in stores.
 Thanks to Apple’s mobile payments push, Apple Pay, contactless payments 
 are on the rise, according to a new report issued from market researcher 
 Juniper Research.
 
 For background, contactless payments let shoppers wave their mobile phone 
 in front of a reader at the cash register to make a payment. Their credit 
 card is automatically billed without them having to take it out of their 
 wallet. Apple debuted Apple Pay last year to enable iOS devices to make 
 contactless payments.
 
 Apple APPL 0.00% CEO Tim Cook has said that Apple Pay will be accepted by 
 1.5 million locations in the U.S. by the end of 2015. During Apple’s 
 earnings call in January of this year, Cook revealed that Apple Pay made 
 up two out of three dollars spent on purchases using contactless payments 
 across the major credit card companies, including Visa, MasterCard, and 
 American Express.
 
 Juniper Research supports Cook’s data, and says that the number of mobile 
 wallets using contactless technology is expected to reach 200 million by 
 the end of 2016, up 100% from the end of 2014.
 
 Whats more, the launch of Apple Pay has helped spur the growth in 
 contactless payments over the past year. Google GOOG 1.91% also debuted 
 its contactless mobile payments technology, Android Pay, earlier this year 
 and is expected to roll the service out broadly in the next few weeks. 
 
 The report also highlighted the weakness of rival contactless payments 
 technologies, including Merchant Customer Exchange (MCX), a mobile 
 payments system that is being developed by a group of merchants, such as 
 CVS, Target, Best Buy, and Walmart.
 
 Called CurrentC, MCX’s technology allows retailers to have access to 
 valuable customer data from transactions. But CurrentC has had stumbles 
 along the way, including succumbing to a security hack, and a delayed 
 rollout, according to Re/Code.
 
 
 
 
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Re: [MacGroup] Apple Pay Version 2

[Richard D. Meadows]

My bank, Stock Yards Bank & Trust SYB.com  is not.  :(   Now 
if you happen to bank there please do send them a missive about getting on 
board. 

I am unfortunately looking at moving my accounts to another bank that is. 

Richard


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> On Sep 15, 2015, at 11:27 PM, John Robinson  wrote:
> 
> Thought I would send this along, if the banks in this area are not on board, 
> someone sure is.
> 
> John
> 
> 
> 
> 
> 
> 
> 
> TECH  APPLE  See the 
> Fortune 500 list 
> Report: Contactless payments will grow by 100% in 2015
>   by  Leena Rao  @leenarao 
>  SEPTEMBER 7, 2015, 1:16 PM EDT
> 
> 
> 
> As Apple Pay grows, more shoppers are using contactless payments to purchase 
> items in stores.
> Thanks to Apple’s mobile payments push, Apple Pay, contactless payments are 
> on the rise, according to a new report issued from market researcher Juniper 
> Research.
> 
> For background, contactless payments let shoppers wave their mobile phone in 
> front of a reader at the cash register to make a payment. Their credit card 
> is automatically billed without them having to take it out of their wallet. 
> Apple debuted Apple Pay last year to enable iOS devices to make contactless 
> payments.
> 
> Apple APPL 0.00%  CEO Tim Cook has said 
> that Apple Pay will be accepted by 1.5 million locations in the U.S. by the 
> end of 2015. During Apple’s earnings call in January of this year, Cook 
> revealed 
> 
>  that Apple Pay made up two out of three dollars spent on purchases using 
> contactless payments across the major credit card companies, including Visa, 
> MasterCard, and American Express.
> 
> Juniper Research supports Cook’s data, and says that the number of mobile 
> wallets using contactless technology is expected to reach 200 million by the 
> end of 2016, up 100% from the end of 2014.
> 
> Whats more, the launch of Apple Pay has helped spur the growth in contactless 
> payments over the past year. Google GOOG 1.91%  
> also debuted its contactless mobile 
> payments technology, Android Pay, earlier this year and is expected to roll 
> the service out broadly in the next few weeks. 
> 
> The report also highlighted the weakness of rival contactless payments 
> technologies, including Merchant Customer Exchange (MCX), a mobile payments 
> system that is being developed by a group of merchants, such as CVS, Target, 
> Best Buy, and Walmart.
> 
> Called CurrentC, MCX’s technology allows retailers to have access to valuable 
> customer data from transactions. But CurrentC has had stumbles along the way, 
> including succumbing to a security hack 
> , and a delayed 
> rollout, according to Re/Code. 
> 
> 
> 
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Re: [MacGroup] Apple Pay

[tom holloman]

Do you know if UL and UK use it?

On Tue, Sep 15, 2015 at 2:43 PM, John Robinson 
wrote:

> Today I went to Chase to open an account with them since they offer Apple
> Pay.
>
> The account manager I talked with knew little about the benefits even
> though it was Chase that worked with Apple to develop the system.
>
> In fact, she said I was the first person in their bank to even ask about
> it!!  The bank I am leaving had promised since January to have it but now
> they say they don’t think many of their folks are interested in moving this
> direction.
>
> Bummer, we Mac folks should be pushing our banking institutions to adapt
> the Apple system, it’s by far the safest, everyone is kept out of the loop,
> the merchant doesn’t know anything about us, Apple doesn’t know anything
> about the transaction and of course the hacker, should he break into the
> store we just left, will not even know we were there.
>
> I guess we are not as “tech" in this area for in many parts of the country
> the system is taking off like crazy….The University Of Oklahoma has gone
> Apple Pay for the entire institution with another 700 colleges and
> Universities set to establish the same for their folks.
>
> We can make a difference we we make a little noise.
>
> John
>
>
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Re: [MacGroup] Apple Pay

[Richard D. Meadows]

if you can figure out how the UofL Foundation can get a kickback for going 
Apple Pay so they can fork over more money to Jim Ramsey that might help get 
banks here in town get on board.  Just saying. 


Richard D. Meadows
Co-Founder & CCO
Berndows Enterprise LLC
rmead...@gmail.com
502-593-5830
www.berndowsenterprise.com 
@HackerHostelLou 

> On Sep 15, 2015, at 8:43 PM, John Robinson  wrote:
> 
> Today I went to Chase to open an account with them since they offer Apple 
> Pay.  
> 
> The account manager I talked with knew little about the benefits even though 
> it was Chase that worked with Apple to develop the system.
> 
> In fact, she said I was the first person in their bank to even ask about it!! 
>  The bank I am leaving had promised since January to have it but now they say 
> they don’t think many of their folks are interested in moving this direction.
> 
> Bummer, we Mac folks should be pushing our banking institutions to adapt the 
> Apple system, it’s by far the safest, everyone is kept out of the loop, the 
> merchant doesn’t know anything about us, Apple doesn’t know anything about 
> the transaction and of course the hacker, should he break into the store we 
> just left, will not even know we were there.
> 
> I guess we are not as “tech" in this area for in many parts of the country 
> the system is taking off like crazy….The University Of Oklahoma has gone 
> Apple Pay for the entire institution with another 700 colleges and 
> Universities set to establish the same for their folks.
> 
> We can make a difference we we make a little noise.
> 
> John
> 
> 
> 
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[MacGroup] Apple Pay

[John Robinson]

Today I went to Chase to open an account with them since they offer Apple Pay.  

The account manager I talked with knew little about the benefits even though it 
was Chase that worked with Apple to develop the system.

In fact, she said I was the first person in their bank to even ask about it!!  
The bank I am leaving had promised since January to have it but now they say 
they don’t think many of their folks are interested in moving this direction.

Bummer, we Mac folks should be pushing our banking institutions to adapt the 
Apple system, it’s by far the safest, everyone is kept out of the loop, the 
merchant doesn’t know anything about us, Apple doesn’t know anything about the 
transaction and of course the hacker, should he break into the store we just 
left, will not even know we were there.

I guess we are not as “tech" in this area for in many parts of the country the 
system is taking off like crazy….The University Of Oklahoma has gone Apple Pay 
for the entire institution with another 700 colleges and Universities set to 
establish the same for their folks.

We can make a difference we we make a little noise.

John




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