Re: Resizing objects in the latest version of Keynote

2014-03-13 Thread Daniela Rubio
You just need to interact with the text box and move the handlers. By default, 
VoiceOver scales it, and in this new version, you listen to accurate 
information regarding the sise, which was not OK in past versions.
Also, you can look where in your slide the text box is going to the Disposition 
formatter.
Hope it helps.

Daniela Rubio T
iPhone: +34662328507




El 13/03/2014, a las 04:13, Vic vtsa...@gmail.com escribió:

 Hello all.
 Those of you who extensively use Keynote, have you figrued out how to resize 
 the objects inside the slides? For example, when I insert textboxes, they are 
 reported as having 0x0 size by default. I, naturally, want to resize them.
 
 Thanks for any help.
 Best,
 Vic
 
 
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Re: Is There a Slacker Radio equivalent for European listeners?

2014-03-13 Thread Mike Busboom
Hi.

No, I have not tried using Pandora. I will download the app.  Do you know if 
there is a Wiki or How to to get started?

Thanks.

Mike
On 12,Mar,2014, at 3:44 PM, isaac isaac.heb...@gmail.com wrote:

 Have you tried using pandora.
 On Mar 12, 2014, at 9:28 AM, Mike Busboom mbusb...@gmail.com wrote:
 
 Hello Everyone,
 
 I had a very enjoyable conversation with the folks at Slacker Radio 
 yesterday and am really happy that the app is now accessible. Unfortunately, 
 for me at least, I learned that Slacker Radio is not available here in 
 Central Europe.  Had it been, then I would have purchased the Premium 
 subscription and would have been very satisfied.  To my knowledge, iTunes 
 Radio still isn't available over here and as I just wrote, nor is Slacker.  
 So I am wondering what music service people over here are using that is both 
 accessible and reasonably priced.  I would do 100% of my listening on an 
 iPhone.
 
 Any thoughts would be appreciated.
 
 Thank you very much,
 
 Mike
 
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setting up abby find reader

2014-03-13 Thread May McDonald Homuth
Good morning.

Does anyone know if there is a tutorial for abby find reader?

I've scanned a few files, but I'm getting some error messages:
1. image resolution isn't right
2. not all file was converted

Any help on getting it set up would be appreciated. I have some pdf files that 
I need to read soon for school. My lovely instructor saved the pdf as a scanned 
image, *sighs*

May and Prince Noah
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Re: Is There a Slacker Radio equivalent for European listeners?

2014-03-13 Thread Mike Busboom
Hello Christina,

I just now checked the Spotify site and I believe that it will work for me.  As 
soon as I opened the page, I was told in German that Spotify was available in 
Austria.  

Thank you very much,

Mike

On 12,Mar,2014, at 4:31 PM, Christina C. blindmaclo...@gmail.com wrote:

 It's been around a year or so since I used Pandora. Did something change? The 
 last time I used it, I could not play music on demand. I could create 
 stations but I could not play a specific song or album, nor could I make 
 playlists. Is Spotify available in Europe? Is that one accessible? I believe 
 that could be a decent substitute for Slacker. You can play music on demand 
 and make playlists with a paid subscription for your iPhone. I think you can 
 try them online and stream music from your computer, I'm just not sure of the 
 availability in Europe.  I love slacker so I never tried spotify.
 
 Good luck,
 Christina
 Sent from Christina's iMac :)
 
 On Mar 12, 2014, at 8:56 AM, isaac isaac.heb...@gmail.com wrote:
 
 Yes they have a accessible app for the iPhone in the app store and yes it 
 let's you listen to any thing you want to.
 On Mar 12, 2014, at 9:54 AM, Mike Busboom mbusb...@gmail.com wrote:
 
 No, I have not. I am assuming that there is an accessible app for the 
 iPhone?  And do they let you listen to whatever you want to?  And are they 
 available here in Europe?
 
 Thanks.
 
 
 
 On 12,Mar,2014, at 3:44 PM, isaac isaac.heb...@gmail.com wrote:
 
 Have you tried using pandora.
 On Mar 12, 2014, at 9:28 AM, Mike Busboom mbusb...@gmail.com wrote:
 
 Hello Everyone,
 
 I had a very enjoyable conversation with the folks at Slacker Radio 
 yesterday and am really happy that the app is now accessible. 
 Unfortunately, for me at least, I learned that Slacker Radio is not 
 available here in Central Europe.  Had it been, then I would have 
 purchased the Premium subscription and would have been very satisfied.  
 To my knowledge, iTunes Radio still isn't available over here and as I 
 just wrote, nor is Slacker.  So I am wondering what music service people 
 over here are using that is both accessible and reasonably priced.  I 
 would do 100% of my listening on an iPhone.
 
 Any thoughts would be appreciated.
 
 Thank you very much,
 
 Mike
 
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Re: Is removing Drm from songs legal?

2014-03-13 Thread Jessica
I got it from iTunes  want to avoid paying for everything again. I have a lot 
of songs but do not need or want iTunes Match. If I delete all music from my 
iphone,  use the purchased section to download it again, will they be Drm 
protected or not?

Sent from my iPhone

 On Mar 12, 2014, at 10:58 PM, Chris Blouch cblo...@aol.com wrote:
 
 I don't think there was any.
 
 Where did you get the DRMed music? I don't think iTunes does DRM on audio 
 tracks anymore. Might be something where, if you got it from iTunes, 
 downloading a fresh copy might get you an unencumbered version. That said, I 
 think in the states the DMCA says the mere act of breaking encryption is not 
 legal, despite fair use laws etc.
 
 CB
 
 On 3/12/14 7:54 PM, Jessica wrote:
 How did you hide the message text? I can't see it and I need to.
 
 Sent from my iPhone
 
 On Mar 12, 2014, at 7:15 PM, Daniel C topdog2...@gmail.com wrote:
 
 
 
 Sent from my iPhone
 
 On Mar 12, 2014, at 5:51 PM, Jessica jldai...@gmail.com wrote:
 
 Hi
 I use the music on my iphone to create my own ringtones. All of the app a 
 I tried do not accept Drm protected songs. Is it legal to remove this? 
 None of my music used to be Drm protected.
 Thanks,
 Jessica
 
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can't connect my bluetooth devices to my mac anymore using mavericks.

2014-03-13 Thread Jessica Moss
I've just noticed sense upgrading, that my bluetooth devices are still showing 
up, but for some reason, the connect option seems to have disappeared, and the 
only option I have is to remove them.  Does anyone know how to remedy this?

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Re: can't connect my bluetooth devices to my mac anymore using mavericks.

2014-03-13 Thread isaac
Have you tried removing them then try pairing them again.
On Mar 13, 2014, at 6:55 AM, Jessica Moss junglebookfa...@gmail.com wrote:

 I've just noticed sense upgrading, that my bluetooth devices are still 
 showing up, but for some reason, the connect option seems to have 
 disappeared, and the only option I have is to remove them.  Does anyone know 
 how to remedy this?
 
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Re: can't connect my bluetooth devices to my mac anymore using mavericks.

2014-03-13 Thread David Taylor
Or simpler things like turning bluetooth off then on again or restarting?

On 13 Mar 2014, at 12:12, isaac isaac.heb...@gmail.com wrote:

 Have you tried removing them then try pairing them again.
 On Mar 13, 2014, at 6:55 AM, Jessica Moss junglebookfa...@gmail.com wrote:
 
 I've just noticed sense upgrading, that my bluetooth devices are still 
 showing up, but for some reason, the connect option seems to have 
 disappeared, and the only option I have is to remove them.  Does anyone know 
 how to remedy this?
 
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Re: Fusion draining my battery

2014-03-13 Thread Phil Halton
Wow! Can't get nothing past you!

On Mar 12, 2014, at 9:38 PM, Keith Watson tkwatso...@gmail.com wrote:

 Phil,
 
 I had been having this issue as well. I am trying to follow your instructions 
 below but am having an issue. I can find the control key and the option key 
 and the power button. Its that dedication key that I just can't seem to 
 locate. Could you possibly point it out for me? Thanks.
 
 
 BTW: The above is pure sarcasm. You dropped the f in shift bro. 
 
 On Mar 11, 2014, at 8:05 PM, Phil Halton philh...@gmail.com wrote:
 
 I submitted a support request with VMWare today and to my surprise, I got a 
 phone call from them in about an hour - now that's service. Anyway, they 
 informed me that Mavericks has introduced a problem with fusion where it can 
 affect battery usage. This is discussed at length in Apple Forums according 
 to the technician. He had me do an SMC reset (press and hold 
 control+option+shit+power button for 10 seconds, then release and power up 
 normally).
 Now, Activity monitor reports a more normal situation with VMWare Fusion and 
 battery usage.
 
 When the guest os is active, energy usage is high as expected, (around .15 - 
 .20), but when suspended, or shut down, it is in the range of .1 or less. 
 Apple is aware of the problem and supposedly working on the fix.
 I will simply get in the habit of suspending Windows when not in use. At 
 worst, it only takes 30 seconds to power up windows and get jaws running, so 
 a total shutdown is an option too.
 
 I was really surprised by the prompt response I got - I've heard so many 
 stories about bad service from these large companies.
 
 On Mar 11, 2014, at 11:33 AM, isaac isaac.heb...@gmail.com wrote:
 
 Have you tried to switch it back  to 1 CPU or try to close fusion when not 
 in use to save battery power?
 On Mar 11, 2014, at 10:25 AM, Phil Halton philh...@gmail.com wrote:
 
 Yesterday, for the first time  ever, my MBA battery went to 10% before the 
 end of the day. Usually I finish the day with 60 - 70% remaining. Turns 
 out, VM Fusion is listed in the battery menu as using significant amounts 
 of energy. Using activity monitor I see that it is using average energy of 
 .19 and above - way above any other apps.
 I thought the drain might be something going on in windows7, but the drain 
 occurs with the windows VM powered off or on, in fact, just opening VMWare 
 Fusion from the app folder puts it in the using significant amounts of 
 energy listing of the battery menu.
 I'm running fusion V5.3 and haven't upgraded since upgrading to Maverichs 
 a week or so ago. This drain is happening on my iMac as well. At least, 
 the activity monitor reports the same energy usage of fusion V5.3 running 
 on Mavericks.
 I don't know what the usage was in Mountain Lion as I never had a problem 
 there.
 
 Any thoughts? Any help?
 BTW: one other thing, two days before the problem first occurred, I 
 changed the fusion settings from 1 cpu to 2 cpu's and re-authorized JAWS 
 for that new hardware config. I can't believe that is causing a problem, 
 but who knows?
 
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Re: joining mp3 files

2014-03-13 Thread Kayaker
Hi,

There are two applications that do this quite nicely. I'm more familiar with 
the first, and I've been a long time user of it.

1. Audio Book Builder (shareware was $5 US when I got it years ago). This app 
is accessible on a Mac and allows you to import files from your drive, iTunes, 
or even CDs. I use this to create audio books from my audio CDs. Here's a link 
to macupdate's page on it: 
https://www.macupdate.com/app/mac/23162/audiobook-builder/
 

2. Audio Book Binder (free) This is a more recent application to solve the 
problem. I believe it was designed to convert mp3 into m4b formats for iOS 
devices to preserve place during playback. I do believe it links smaller files 
as well. Here's a link to macupdate's page on it: 
https://www.macupdate.com/app/mac/33824/audiobook-binder
 
Best,
--k
Faith doesn't give you the answers, it merely stops you from asking the 
questions.

On Mar 9, 2014, at 11:30 AM, Shannon Dyer solsticesin...@gmail.com wrote:

 Hello.
 
 I'm looking for something that can join several small mp3 files into one 
 large file. Does anyone know of such a program that is accessible with VO? 
 Any help would be greatly appreciated.
 
 Shannon
 
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Re: The bug for Messaging on the I phone.

2014-03-13 Thread David Chittenden
Actually, it is better if Apple receives several email, one from each person, 
rather than one collective email.

David Chittenden, MSc, MRCAA
Email: dchitten...@gmail.com
Mobile: +64 21 2288 288
Sent from my iPhone

 On 13 Mar 2014, at 4:51, Kawal Gucukoglu kawa...@me.com wrote:
 
 I'm for that as well.  How about a collective E-mail? Meaning one E-mail 
 about this matter?
 
 Kawal.
 
 On 12 Mar 2014, at 03:48 pm, Ray Foret Jr rforet7...@comcast.net wrote:
 
 A point I myself have made several times here already.  Yesterday, Bill 
 Holton and I verified this issue.  My only suggestion is that we flood Apple 
 with this matter and indicate in blunt absolutely no uncertain terms that 
 this is positively unacceptable.
 
 
 Sent from my Mac, the only computer with full accessibility for the blind 
 built-in!
 
 Sincerely,
 The Constantly Barefooted Ray, still a very happy Mac and Iphone 5 user!
 
 On Mar 12, 2014, at 7:46 AM, Kawal Gucukoglu kawa...@me.com wrote:
 
 Hello.
 
 The bug for Messaging, I messaging is still on the I phone, you type your 
 contact and you still can't arrow across to type your message unless you 
 touch the I phone some where else. Is this a bug or is there another way of 
 getting to the messaging field where you type the content of the message?
 
 Jonathan is absolutely right about typing with the Focus blue as I haven't 
 been using mine very much but its lovely. The only problem is i can't write 
 true UEB as Apple have strange ways of writing Braille which jonathan 
 explained once in his article. Writing on the Focus blue is better than 
 writing on the Apex!
 
 Kawal.
 
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Re: how can i subscribe to podcasts with i tunes on the mack book air using i tunes?

2014-03-13 Thread Tim Kilburn
Hi,

When in iTunes for the Mac, you press the iTunes Store button to open the 
Store.  After it loads, press on the Podcasts tab or do a search for a specific 
Podcast.  You can then activate the link for the Podcast and there will be a 
Subscribe button on that page.

Later...

Tim Kilburn
Fort McMurray, AB Canada

On Mar 12, 2014, at 4:45 PM, aadrian adrianle...@rocketmail.com wrote:

 How can i subscribe to podcasts using i tunes on the mack boook air. I wil be 
 geting my air in august.
 
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Re: Is removing Drm from songs legal?

2014-03-13 Thread Tim Kilburn
Hi,

iTunes Music used to be labeled as “Protected” when DRM was active and since 
all music now sold is considered “Purchased” in the iTunes Plus format, it no 
longer has true DRM protection.  There used to be an option in the iTunes Store 
whereby you could upgrade your existing Store purchases to the iTunes plus 
format but I’m not positive that is still an option.  So, what I’m saying, is 
that if your music is listed as “protected”, then removing and re-adding is not 
really a good option for you.

Later…

Tim Kilburn
Fort McMurray, AB Canada

On Mar 13, 2014, at 4:44 AM, Jessica jldai...@gmail.com wrote:

 I got it from iTunes  want to avoid paying for everything again. I have a 
 lot of songs but do not need or want iTunes Match. If I delete all music from 
 my iphone,  use the purchased section to download it again, will they be Drm 
 protected or not?
 
 Sent from my iPhone
 
 On Mar 12, 2014, at 10:58 PM, Chris Blouch cblo...@aol.com wrote:
 
 I don't think there was any.
 
 Where did you get the DRMed music? I don't think iTunes does DRM on audio 
 tracks anymore. Might be something where, if you got it from iTunes, 
 downloading a fresh copy might get you an unencumbered version. That said, I 
 think in the states the DMCA says the mere act of breaking encryption is not 
 legal, despite fair use laws etc.
 
 CB
 
 On 3/12/14 7:54 PM, Jessica wrote:
 How did you hide the message text? I can't see it and I need to.
 
 Sent from my iPhone
 
 On Mar 12, 2014, at 7:15 PM, Daniel C topdog2...@gmail.com wrote:
 
 
 
 Sent from my iPhone
 
 On Mar 12, 2014, at 5:51 PM, Jessica jldai...@gmail.com wrote:
 
 Hi
 I use the music on my iphone to create my own ringtones. All of the app a 
 I tried do not accept Drm protected songs. Is it legal to remove this? 
 None of my music used to be Drm protected.
 Thanks,
 Jessica
 
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Re: Is removing Drm from songs legal?

2014-03-13 Thread Jessica
so what should I do?
Jessica
jldai...@gmail.com



On Mar 13, 2014, at 12:07 PM, Tim Kilburn kilbur...@gmail.com wrote:

 Hi,
 
 iTunes Music used to be labeled as “Protected” when DRM was active and since 
 all music now sold is considered “Purchased” in the iTunes Plus format, it no 
 longer has true DRM protection.  There used to be an option in the iTunes 
 Store whereby you could upgrade your existing Store purchases to the iTunes 
 plus format but I’m not positive that is still an option.  So, what I’m 
 saying, is that if your music is listed as “protected”, then removing and 
 re-adding is not really a good option for you.
 
 Later…
 
 Tim Kilburn
 Fort McMurray, AB Canada
 
 On Mar 13, 2014, at 4:44 AM, Jessica jldai...@gmail.com wrote:
 
 I got it from iTunes  want to avoid paying for everything again. I have a 
 lot of songs but do not need or want iTunes Match. If I delete all music 
 from my iphone,  use the purchased section to download it again, will they 
 be Drm protected or not?
 
 Sent from my iPhone
 
 On Mar 12, 2014, at 10:58 PM, Chris Blouch cblo...@aol.com wrote:
 
 I don't think there was any.
 
 Where did you get the DRMed music? I don't think iTunes does DRM on audio 
 tracks anymore. Might be something where, if you got it from iTunes, 
 downloading a fresh copy might get you an unencumbered version. That said, 
 I think in the states the DMCA says the mere act of breaking encryption is 
 not legal, despite fair use laws etc.
 
 CB
 
 On 3/12/14 7:54 PM, Jessica wrote:
 How did you hide the message text? I can't see it and I need to.
 
 Sent from my iPhone
 
 On Mar 12, 2014, at 7:15 PM, Daniel C topdog2...@gmail.com wrote:
 
 
 
 Sent from my iPhone
 
 On Mar 12, 2014, at 5:51 PM, Jessica jldai...@gmail.com wrote:
 
 Hi
 I use the music on my iphone to create my own ringtones. All of the app 
 a I tried do not accept Drm protected songs. Is it legal to remove this? 
 None of my music used to be Drm protected.
 Thanks,
 Jessica
 
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Re: Is removing Drm from songs legal?

2014-03-13 Thread Chris Blouch
Is there a way to tell if a track is DRMed? Most of my library I ripped 
myself from my CD collection and the few I purchased came after all the 
DRM nonsense was over. Under the File Menu, Create New Version does it 
let you pick MP3 or whatever your default encoder is when you've 
selected your DRMed tracks?


CB

On 3/13/14 12:26 PM, Jessica wrote:

so what should I do?
Jessica
jldai...@gmail.com



On Mar 13, 2014, at 12:07 PM, Tim Kilburn kilbur...@gmail.com wrote:


Hi,

iTunes Music used to be labeled as “Protected” when DRM was active and since 
all music now sold is considered “Purchased” in the iTunes Plus format, it no 
longer has true DRM protection.  There used to be an option in the iTunes Store 
whereby you could upgrade your existing Store purchases to the iTunes plus 
format but I’m not positive that is still an option.  So, what I’m saying, is 
that if your music is listed as “protected”, then removing and re-adding is not 
really a good option for you.

Later…

Tim Kilburn
Fort McMurray, AB Canada

On Mar 13, 2014, at 4:44 AM, Jessica jldai...@gmail.com wrote:


I got it from iTunes  want to avoid paying for everything again. I have a lot of 
songs but do not need or want iTunes Match. If I delete all music from my iphone,  
use the purchased section to download it again, will they be Drm protected or not?

Sent from my iPhone


On Mar 12, 2014, at 10:58 PM, Chris Blouch cblo...@aol.com wrote:

I don't think there was any.

Where did you get the DRMed music? I don't think iTunes does DRM on audio 
tracks anymore. Might be something where, if you got it from iTunes, 
downloading a fresh copy might get you an unencumbered version. That said, I 
think in the states the DMCA says the mere act of breaking encryption is not 
legal, despite fair use laws etc.

CB


On 3/12/14 7:54 PM, Jessica wrote:
How did you hide the message text? I can't see it and I need to.

Sent from my iPhone


On Mar 12, 2014, at 7:15 PM, Daniel C topdog2...@gmail.com wrote:



Sent from my iPhone


On Mar 12, 2014, at 5:51 PM, Jessica jldai...@gmail.com wrote:

Hi
I use the music on my iphone to create my own ringtones. All of the app a I 
tried do not accept Drm protected songs. Is it legal to remove this? None of my 
music used to be Drm protected.
Thanks,
Jessica

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Re: Is removing Drm from songs legal?

2014-03-13 Thread Jessica
am I allowed to send links to this list?
If it’s okay, I found an apple support article that could potentially help this 
whole list in case they end up in my situation.
I now know that removing the DRM protection is illegal.

Jessica
jldai...@gmail.com

On Mar 13, 2014, at 12:34 PM, Chris Blouch cblo...@aol.com wrote:

 Is there a way to tell if a track is DRMed? Most of my library I ripped 
 myself from my CD collection and the few I purchased came after all the DRM 
 nonsense was over. Under the File Menu, Create New Version does it let you 
 pick MP3 or whatever your default encoder is when you've selected your DRMed 
 tracks?
 
 CB
 
 On 3/13/14 12:26 PM, Jessica wrote:
 so what should I do?
 Jessica
 jldai...@gmail.com
 
 
 
 On Mar 13, 2014, at 12:07 PM, Tim Kilburn kilbur...@gmail.com wrote:
 
 Hi,
 
 iTunes Music used to be labeled as “Protected” when DRM was active and 
 since all music now sold is considered “Purchased” in the iTunes Plus 
 format, it no longer has true DRM protection.  There used to be an option 
 in the iTunes Store whereby you could upgrade your existing Store purchases 
 to the iTunes plus format but I’m not positive that is still an option.  
 So, what I’m saying, is that if your music is listed as “protected”, then 
 removing and re-adding is not really a good option for you.
 
 Later…
 
 Tim Kilburn
 Fort McMurray, AB Canada
 
 On Mar 13, 2014, at 4:44 AM, Jessica jldai...@gmail.com wrote:
 
 I got it from iTunes  want to avoid paying for everything again. I have a 
 lot of songs but do not need or want iTunes Match. If I delete all music 
 from my iphone,  use the purchased section to download it again, will 
 they be Drm protected or not?
 
 Sent from my iPhone
 
 On Mar 12, 2014, at 10:58 PM, Chris Blouch cblo...@aol.com wrote:
 
 I don't think there was any.
 
 Where did you get the DRMed music? I don't think iTunes does DRM on audio 
 tracks anymore. Might be something where, if you got it from iTunes, 
 downloading a fresh copy might get you an unencumbered version. That 
 said, I think in the states the DMCA says the mere act of breaking 
 encryption is not legal, despite fair use laws etc.
 
 CB
 
 On 3/12/14 7:54 PM, Jessica wrote:
 How did you hide the message text? I can't see it and I need to.
 
 Sent from my iPhone
 
 On Mar 12, 2014, at 7:15 PM, Daniel C topdog2...@gmail.com wrote:
 
 
 
 Sent from my iPhone
 
 On Mar 12, 2014, at 5:51 PM, Jessica jldai...@gmail.com wrote:
 
 Hi
 I use the music on my iphone to create my own ringtones. All of the 
 app a I tried do not accept Drm protected songs. Is it legal to remove 
 this? None of my music used to be Drm protected.
 Thanks,
 Jessica
 
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Re: Is removing Drm from songs legal?

2014-03-13 Thread Tim Kilburn
Hi,

iTunes won’t let you convert protected content to MP3.  There is a sneaky way 
of stripping these sorts of DRM that is not really illegal.  If you create a 
playlist of the DRM protected content, then ask iTunes to burn you an audio CD 
of those songs, the DRM is stripped when the music is converted into the AIFF 
format on the audio CD.  You can then use the music files on that audio CD to 
create the ring-tone or re-import it to iTunes from the AIFF format present on 
the CD, re-tag it and it is no longer DRM protected.  A lot of work in some 
respects but it does allow you to create the ring-tones you want while not 
really breaking the law.

I forgot to mention in my last post that the upgrade to iTunes Plus actually 
cost 50¢ or so per item so it wasn’t always the solution that people wanted.

Later…

Tim Kilburn
Fort McMurray, AB Canada

On Mar 13, 2014, at 10:41 AM, Jessica jldai...@gmail.com wrote:

 am I allowed to send links to this list?
 If it’s okay, I found an apple support article that could potentially help 
 this whole list in case they end up in my situation.
 I now know that removing the DRM protection is illegal.
 
 Jessica
 jldai...@gmail.com
 
 On Mar 13, 2014, at 12:34 PM, Chris Blouch cblo...@aol.com wrote:
 
 Is there a way to tell if a track is DRMed? Most of my library I ripped 
 myself from my CD collection and the few I purchased came after all the DRM 
 nonsense was over. Under the File Menu, Create New Version does it let you 
 pick MP3 or whatever your default encoder is when you've selected your DRMed 
 tracks?
 
 CB
 
 On 3/13/14 12:26 PM, Jessica wrote:
 so what should I do?
 Jessica
 jldai...@gmail.com
 
 
 
 On Mar 13, 2014, at 12:07 PM, Tim Kilburn kilbur...@gmail.com wrote:
 
 Hi,
 
 iTunes Music used to be labeled as “Protected” when DRM was active and 
 since all music now sold is considered “Purchased” in the iTunes Plus 
 format, it no longer has true DRM protection.  There used to be an option 
 in the iTunes Store whereby you could upgrade your existing Store 
 purchases to the iTunes plus format but I’m not positive that is still an 
 option.  So, what I’m saying, is that if your music is listed as 
 “protected”, then removing and re-adding is not really a good option for 
 you.
 
 Later…
 
 Tim Kilburn
 Fort McMurray, AB Canada
 
 On Mar 13, 2014, at 4:44 AM, Jessica jldai...@gmail.com wrote:
 
 I got it from iTunes  want to avoid paying for everything again. I have 
 a lot of songs but do not need or want iTunes Match. If I delete all 
 music from my iphone,  use the purchased section to download it again, 
 will they be Drm protected or not?
 
 Sent from my iPhone
 
 On Mar 12, 2014, at 10:58 PM, Chris Blouch cblo...@aol.com wrote:
 
 I don't think there was any.
 
 Where did you get the DRMed music? I don't think iTunes does DRM on 
 audio tracks anymore. Might be something where, if you got it from 
 iTunes, downloading a fresh copy might get you an unencumbered version. 
 That said, I think in the states the DMCA says the mere act of breaking 
 encryption is not legal, despite fair use laws etc.
 
 CB
 
 On 3/12/14 7:54 PM, Jessica wrote:
 How did you hide the message text? I can't see it and I need to.
 
 Sent from my iPhone
 
 On Mar 12, 2014, at 7:15 PM, Daniel C topdog2...@gmail.com wrote:
 
 
 
 Sent from my iPhone
 
 On Mar 12, 2014, at 5:51 PM, Jessica jldai...@gmail.com wrote:
 
 Hi
 I use the music on my iphone to create my own ringtones. All of the 
 app a I tried do not accept Drm protected songs. Is it legal to 
 remove this? None of my music used to be Drm protected.
 Thanks,
 Jessica
 
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Re: Is There a Slacker Radio equivalent for European listeners?

2014-03-13 Thread Chris Blouch
I wonder if the AOL Radio app is available in the UK. The US version is 
somewhat usable with voiceover and it's powered by Slacker.


CB

On 3/13/14 5:45 AM, Mike Busboom wrote:

Hi.

No, I have not tried using Pandora. I will download the app.  Do you know if there is a 
Wiki or How to to get started?

Thanks.

Mike
On 12,Mar,2014, at 3:44 PM, isaac isaac.heb...@gmail.com wrote:


Have you tried using pandora.
On Mar 12, 2014, at 9:28 AM, Mike Busboom mbusb...@gmail.com wrote:


Hello Everyone,

I had a very enjoyable conversation with the folks at Slacker Radio yesterday 
and am really happy that the app is now accessible. Unfortunately, for me at 
least, I learned that Slacker Radio is not available here in Central Europe.  
Had it been, then I would have purchased the Premium subscription and would 
have been very satisfied.  To my knowledge, iTunes Radio still isn't available 
over here and as I just wrote, nor is Slacker.  So I am wondering what music 
service people over here are using that is both accessible and reasonably 
priced.  I would do 100% of my listening on an iPhone.

Any thoughts would be appreciated.

Thank you very much,

Mike

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Re: Is removing Drm from songs legal?

2014-03-13 Thread Ray Foret Jr
True, if you're talking about protected .m4v files.  However, .M4a files you 
can convert.


Sent from my Mac, the only computer with full accessibility for the blind 
built-in!

Sincerely,
The Constantly Barefooted Ray, still a very happy Mac and Iphone 5 user!

On Mar 13, 2014, at 11:57 AM, Tim Kilburn kilbur...@gmail.com wrote:

 Hi,
 
 iTunes won’t let you convert protected content to MP3.  There is a sneaky way 
 of stripping these sorts of DRM that is not really illegal.  If you create a 
 playlist of the DRM protected content, then ask iTunes to burn you an audio 
 CD of those songs, the DRM is stripped when the music is converted into the 
 AIFF format on the audio CD.  You can then use the music files on that audio 
 CD to create the ring-tone or re-import it to iTunes from the AIFF format 
 present on the CD, re-tag it and it is no longer DRM protected.  A lot of 
 work in some respects but it does allow you to create the ring-tones you want 
 while not really breaking the law.
 
 I forgot to mention in my last post that the upgrade to iTunes Plus actually 
 cost 50¢ or so per item so it wasn’t always the solution that people wanted.
 
 Later…
 
 Tim Kilburn
 Fort McMurray, AB Canada
 
 On Mar 13, 2014, at 10:41 AM, Jessica jldai...@gmail.com wrote:
 
 am I allowed to send links to this list?
 If it’s okay, I found an apple support article that could potentially help 
 this whole list in case they end up in my situation.
 I now know that removing the DRM protection is illegal.
 
 Jessica
 jldai...@gmail.com
 
 On Mar 13, 2014, at 12:34 PM, Chris Blouch cblo...@aol.com wrote:
 
 Is there a way to tell if a track is DRMed? Most of my library I ripped 
 myself from my CD collection and the few I purchased came after all the DRM 
 nonsense was over. Under the File Menu, Create New Version does it let you 
 pick MP3 or whatever your default encoder is when you've selected your 
 DRMed tracks?
 
 CB
 
 On 3/13/14 12:26 PM, Jessica wrote:
 so what should I do?
 Jessica
 jldai...@gmail.com
 
 
 
 On Mar 13, 2014, at 12:07 PM, Tim Kilburn kilbur...@gmail.com wrote:
 
 Hi,
 
 iTunes Music used to be labeled as “Protected” when DRM was active and 
 since all music now sold is considered “Purchased” in the iTunes Plus 
 format, it no longer has true DRM protection.  There used to be an option 
 in the iTunes Store whereby you could upgrade your existing Store 
 purchases to the iTunes plus format but I’m not positive that is still an 
 option.  So, what I’m saying, is that if your music is listed as 
 “protected”, then removing and re-adding is not really a good option for 
 you.
 
 Later…
 
 Tim Kilburn
 Fort McMurray, AB Canada
 
 On Mar 13, 2014, at 4:44 AM, Jessica jldai...@gmail.com wrote:
 
 I got it from iTunes  want to avoid paying for everything again. I have 
 a lot of songs but do not need or want iTunes Match. If I delete all 
 music from my iphone,  use the purchased section to download it again, 
 will they be Drm protected or not?
 
 Sent from my iPhone
 
 On Mar 12, 2014, at 10:58 PM, Chris Blouch cblo...@aol.com wrote:
 
 I don't think there was any.
 
 Where did you get the DRMed music? I don't think iTunes does DRM on 
 audio tracks anymore. Might be something where, if you got it from 
 iTunes, downloading a fresh copy might get you an unencumbered version. 
 That said, I think in the states the DMCA says the mere act of breaking 
 encryption is not legal, despite fair use laws etc.
 
 CB
 
 On 3/12/14 7:54 PM, Jessica wrote:
 How did you hide the message text? I can't see it and I need to.
 
 Sent from my iPhone
 
 On Mar 12, 2014, at 7:15 PM, Daniel C topdog2...@gmail.com wrote:
 
 
 
 Sent from my iPhone
 
 On Mar 12, 2014, at 5:51 PM, Jessica jldai...@gmail.com wrote:
 
 Hi
 I use the music on my iphone to create my own ringtones. All of the 
 app a I tried do not accept Drm protected songs. Is it legal to 
 remove this? None of my music used to be Drm protected.
 Thanks,
 Jessica
 
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Re: Is There a Slacker Radio equivalent for European listeners?

2014-03-13 Thread Christina C.
I hope that helped and that Spotify will suffice. :)  I used to love Pandora 
but the last time I used it, I could not play any song or album on demand. 
Maybe they have changed their features though. Pandora does put out some good 
music and they do have a free subscription.  You get audio ads when you have 
the free version though. Basically, in Pandora, you create a station based on a 
song or artist. Then Pandora uses some cool technology to create a station 
based on the song or artist you chose. Then you can thumbs down a song if you 
don't' want to hear it again on that station. You can also skip a song you do 
not feel like hearing. You only get a limited number of thumbs downs and skips 
for unpaid subscriptions.


Sent from Christina's iMac :)

On Mar 13, 2014, at 3:52 AM, Mike Busboom mbusb...@gmail.com wrote:

 Hello Christina,
 
 I just now checked the Spotify site and I believe that it will work for me.  
 As soon as I opened the page, I was told in German that Spotify was available 
 in Austria.  
 
 Thank you very much,
 
 Mike
 
 On 12,Mar,2014, at 4:31 PM, Christina C. blindmaclo...@gmail.com wrote:
 
 It's been around a year or so since I used Pandora. Did something change? 
 The last time I used it, I could not play music on demand. I could create 
 stations but I could not play a specific song or album, nor could I make 
 playlists. Is Spotify available in Europe? Is that one accessible? I believe 
 that could be a decent substitute for Slacker. You can play music on demand 
 and make playlists with a paid subscription for your iPhone. I think you can 
 try them online and stream music from your computer, I'm just not sure of 
 the availability in Europe.  I love slacker so I never tried spotify.
 
 Good luck,
 Christina
 Sent from Christina's iMac :)
 
 On Mar 12, 2014, at 8:56 AM, isaac isaac.heb...@gmail.com wrote:
 
 Yes they have a accessible app for the iPhone in the app store and yes it 
 let's you listen to any thing you want to.
 On Mar 12, 2014, at 9:54 AM, Mike Busboom mbusb...@gmail.com wrote:
 
 No, I have not. I am assuming that there is an accessible app for the 
 iPhone?  And do they let you listen to whatever you want to?  And are they 
 available here in Europe?
 
 Thanks.
 
 
 
 On 12,Mar,2014, at 3:44 PM, isaac isaac.heb...@gmail.com wrote:
 
 Have you tried using pandora.
 On Mar 12, 2014, at 9:28 AM, Mike Busboom mbusb...@gmail.com wrote:
 
 Hello Everyone,
 
 I had a very enjoyable conversation with the folks at Slacker Radio 
 yesterday and am really happy that the app is now accessible. 
 Unfortunately, for me at least, I learned that Slacker Radio is not 
 available here in Central Europe.  Had it been, then I would have 
 purchased the Premium subscription and would have been very satisfied.  
 To my knowledge, iTunes Radio still isn't available over here and as I 
 just wrote, nor is Slacker.  So I am wondering what music service people 
 over here are using that is both accessible and reasonably priced.  I 
 would do 100% of my listening on an iPhone.
 
 Any thoughts would be appreciated.
 
 Thank you very much,
 
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Re: Is There a Slacker Radio equivalent for European listeners?

2014-03-13 Thread Mike Busboom
Hello everyone,

Based on some of the discussions about my query, I logged on to pandora.com, 
only to encounter a very courteously-worded note stating that, due to licensing 
restrictions, Pandora was not available in my country.  I have a strong feeling 
that this applies to many, if not all, EU countries.  So that leaves Spotify 
unless, of course, they are subject to the same licensing restrictions.

iTunes radio, or whatever they call it, isn't available over here, either.

Oh well, at least the coffee and beer are pretty spectacular here in Vienna! :-)

Cheers,

Mike
 
On 13,Mar,2014, at 6:03 PM, Chris Blouch cblo...@aol.com wrote:

 I wonder if the AOL Radio app is available in the UK. The US version is 
 somewhat usable with voiceover and it's powered by Slacker.
 
 CB
 
 On 3/13/14 5:45 AM, Mike Busboom wrote:
 Hi.
 
 No, I have not tried using Pandora. I will download the app.  Do you know if 
 there is a Wiki or How to to get started?
 
 Thanks.
 
 Mike
 On 12,Mar,2014, at 3:44 PM, isaac isaac.heb...@gmail.com wrote:
 
 Have you tried using pandora.
 On Mar 12, 2014, at 9:28 AM, Mike Busboom mbusb...@gmail.com wrote:
 
 Hello Everyone,
 
 I had a very enjoyable conversation with the folks at Slacker Radio 
 yesterday and am really happy that the app is now accessible. 
 Unfortunately, for me at least, I learned that Slacker Radio is not 
 available here in Central Europe.  Had it been, then I would have 
 purchased the Premium subscription and would have been very satisfied.  To 
 my knowledge, iTunes Radio still isn't available over here and as I just 
 wrote, nor is Slacker.  So I am wondering what music service people over 
 here are using that is both accessible and reasonably priced.  I would do 
 100% of my listening on an iPhone.
 
 Any thoughts would be appreciated.
 
 Thank you very much,
 
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Re: Accessible and Automated OCR Workflow

2014-03-13 Thread Keith Watson
Nick,

Below I will paste a copy of the AppleScript that I use in a Hazel rule that 
will open a pdf, check to see if it needs to be OCR'd, OCR it if necessary and 
then move it to another folder to be sorted by other requirements.

In PDFPen Pro you can set the preferences to OCR upon opening. I have disabled 
this as I let my script handle it.

Anyway here is the script and if you have any problems feel free to ask.

Keith

-- Start AppleScript --

set myFile to POSIX path of theFile
set theResult to do shell script grep -i 'encoding'   quoted form of myFile 
  /dev/null  echo 1 || echo 0
if theResult is 0 then
tell application PDFpenPro
open theFile as alias
tell document 1
ocr
repeat while performing ocr
delay 1
end repeat
delay 1

close with saving
end tell
do shell script afplay ~/Documents/Sounds/itisdone.wav 
tell application PDFpenPro
quit
end tell
end tell
else
do shell script afplay ~/Documents/Sounds/dontouch.wav 
end if
-- End AppleScript ---

On Mar 11, 2014, at 11:41 PM, Nicholas Parsons mr.nicholas.pars...@gmail.com 
wrote:

 HI list,
 
 I get tens if not hundreds of scanned documents at work which have not been 
 OCR-ed. I've been trialling a number of OCR programs recently. I've been 
 really impressed with ABBYY Fine Reader, which seems to produce much better 
 results than Prizmo or even Docuscan Plus. However, manually converting each 
 document takes far too much of my time.
 
 I've heard much in the mainstream media, particularly from the Mac Power 
 Users podcast, about automating the OCR process. They use PDFPen, Apple 
 Script and Hazel to automatically OCR things. However, I just tried to OCR a 
 document with PDFPen Pro and couldn't even do it manually. The OCR Document 
 button was greyed out, and forcing it with command-option keys didn't seem to 
 work.
 
 So, does anyone else have any ideas for how to automate the OCR process? 
 Ideally using ABBYY Fine Reader as that seems to be the most accurate engine 
 I've tested.
 
 Many thanks for any ideas.
 
 Cheers,
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Re: Is There a Slacker Radio equivalent for European listeners?

2014-03-13 Thread Pamela Francis
Hi,
Check out this app. 
It has a wide variety of music, some of which is European. Not sure if it is 
available there, yet is worth a look.
http://www.accuradio.com/#!/channel/4e38562b77d9e74636000212/

Pam Francis

On Mar 13, 2014, at 1:08 PM, Mike Busboom mbusb...@gmail.com wrote:

Hello everyone,

Based on some of the discussions about my query, I logged on to pandora.com, 
only to encounter a very courteously-worded note stating that, due to licensing 
restrictions, Pandora was not available in my country.  I have a strong feeling 
that this applies to many, if not all, EU countries.  So that leaves Spotify 
unless, of course, they are subject to the same licensing restrictions.

iTunes radio, or whatever they call it, isn't available over here, either.

Oh well, at least the coffee and beer are pretty spectacular here in Vienna! :-)

Cheers,

Mike

 On 13,Mar,2014, at 6:03 PM, Chris Blouch cblo...@aol.com wrote:
 
 I wonder if the AOL Radio app is available in the UK. The US version is 
 somewhat usable with voiceover and it's powered by Slacker.
 
 CB
 
 On 3/13/14 5:45 AM, Mike Busboom wrote:
 Hi.
 
 No, I have not tried using Pandora. I will download the app.  Do you know if 
 there is a Wiki or How to to get started?
 
 Thanks.
 
 Mike
 On 12,Mar,2014, at 3:44 PM, isaac isaac.heb...@gmail.com wrote:
 
 Have you tried using pandora.
 On Mar 12, 2014, at 9:28 AM, Mike Busboom mbusb...@gmail.com wrote:
 
 Hello Everyone,
 
 I had a very enjoyable conversation with the folks at Slacker Radio 
 yesterday and am really happy that the app is now accessible. 
 Unfortunately, for me at least, I learned that Slacker Radio is not 
 available here in Central Europe.  Had it been, then I would have 
 purchased the Premium subscription and would have been very satisfied.  To 
 my knowledge, iTunes Radio still isn't available over here and as I just 
 wrote, nor is Slacker.  So I am wondering what music service people over 
 here are using that is both accessible and reasonably priced.  I would do 
 100% of my listening on an iPhone.
 
 Any thoughts would be appreciated.
 
 Thank you very much,
 
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Re: Is There a Slacker Radio equivalent for European listeners?

2014-03-13 Thread Edward Green
Hi Mike,

You can get access to iTunes Radio in Europe.  You just need an iTunes account 
in the US store.  You have to be slightly careful how you associate your mobile 
devices with it as you might inadvertently lock yourself out of your primary 
account but it is doable.

You could probably access Pandora if you use a proxy server or a VPN.

Cheers,

Ed
On 13 Mar 2014, at 20:19, Pamela Francis gypsykitt...@gmail.com wrote:

 Hi,
 Check out this app. 
 It has a wide variety of music, some of which is European. Not sure if it is 
 available there, yet is worth a look.
 http://www.accuradio.com/#!/channel/4e38562b77d9e74636000212/
 
 Pam Francis
 
 On Mar 13, 2014, at 1:08 PM, Mike Busboom mbusb...@gmail.com wrote:
 
 Hello everyone,
 
 Based on some of the discussions about my query, I logged on to pandora.com, 
 only to encounter a very courteously-worded note stating that, due to 
 licensing restrictions, Pandora was not available in my country.  I have a 
 strong feeling that this applies to many, if not all, EU countries.  So that 
 leaves Spotify unless, of course, they are subject to the same licensing 
 restrictions.
 
 iTunes radio, or whatever they call it, isn't available over here, either.
 
 Oh well, at least the coffee and beer are pretty spectacular here in Vienna! 
 :-)
 
 Cheers,
 
 Mike
 
 On 13,Mar,2014, at 6:03 PM, Chris Blouch cblo...@aol.com wrote:
 
 I wonder if the AOL Radio app is available in the UK. The US version is 
 somewhat usable with voiceover and it's powered by Slacker.
 
 CB
 
 On 3/13/14 5:45 AM, Mike Busboom wrote:
 Hi.
 
 No, I have not tried using Pandora. I will download the app.  Do you know 
 if there is a Wiki or How to to get started?
 
 Thanks.
 
 Mike
 On 12,Mar,2014, at 3:44 PM, isaac isaac.heb...@gmail.com wrote:
 
 Have you tried using pandora.
 On Mar 12, 2014, at 9:28 AM, Mike Busboom mbusb...@gmail.com wrote:
 
 Hello Everyone,
 
 I had a very enjoyable conversation with the folks at Slacker Radio 
 yesterday and am really happy that the app is now accessible. 
 Unfortunately, for me at least, I learned that Slacker Radio is not 
 available here in Central Europe.  Had it been, then I would have 
 purchased the Premium subscription and would have been very satisfied.  
 To my knowledge, iTunes Radio still isn't available over here and as I 
 just wrote, nor is Slacker.  So I am wondering what music service people 
 over here are using that is both accessible and reasonably priced.  I 
 would do 100% of my listening on an iPhone.
 
 Any thoughts would be appreciated.
 
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Re: The bug for Messaging on the I phone.

2014-03-13 Thread Lisette Wesseling
What's wrong with just touching the phone? I know it's a small bug but in the 
scheme of things it's surely not a show stopper. Yes Apple needs to know about 
it but to say it's unacceptable is a little strong methinks.


On 13/03/2014, at 4:48 am, Ray Foret Jr rforet7...@comcast.net wrote:

 A point I myself have made several times here already.  Yesterday, Bill 
 Holton and I verified this issue.  My only suggestion is that we flood Apple 
 with this matter and indicate in blunt absolutely no uncertain terms that 
 this is positively unacceptable.
 
 
 Sent from my Mac, the only computer with full accessibility for the blind 
 built-in!
 
 Sincerely,
 The Constantly Barefooted Ray, still a very happy Mac and Iphone 5 user!
 
 On Mar 12, 2014, at 7:46 AM, Kawal Gucukoglu kawa...@me.com wrote:
 
 Hello.
 
 The bug for Messaging, I messaging is still on the I phone, you type your 
 contact and you still can't arrow across to type your message unless you 
 touch the I phone some where else. Is this a bug or is there another way of 
 getting to the messaging field where you type the content of the message?
 
 Jonathan is absolutely right about typing with the Focus blue as I haven't 
 been using mine very much but its lovely. The only problem is i can't write 
 true UEB as Apple have strange ways of writing Braille which jonathan 
 explained once in his article. Writing on the Focus blue is better than 
 writing on the Apex!
 
 Kawal.
 
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Re: The bug for Messaging on the I phone.

2014-03-13 Thread Ray Foret Jr
What do you mean just touching the phone?  That bug is unacceptible and Apple 
needs to know about it.


Sent from my Mac, the only computer with full accessibility for the blind 
built-in!

Sincerely,
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On Mar 13, 2014, at 3:44 PM, Lisette Wesseling lisettewessel...@gmail.com 
wrote:

 What's wrong with just touching the phone? I know it's a small bug but in the 
 scheme of things it's surely not a show stopper. Yes Apple needs to know 
 about it but to say it's unacceptable is a little strong methinks.
 
 
 On 13/03/2014, at 4:48 am, Ray Foret Jr rforet7...@comcast.net wrote:
 
 A point I myself have made several times here already.  Yesterday, Bill 
 Holton and I verified this issue.  My only suggestion is that we flood Apple 
 with this matter and indicate in blunt absolutely no uncertain terms that 
 this is positively unacceptable.
 
 
 Sent from my Mac, the only computer with full accessibility for the blind 
 built-in!
 
 Sincerely,
 The Constantly Barefooted Ray, still a very happy Mac and Iphone 5 user!
 
 On Mar 12, 2014, at 7:46 AM, Kawal Gucukoglu kawa...@me.com wrote:
 
 Hello.
 
 The bug for Messaging, I messaging is still on the I phone, you type your 
 contact and you still can't arrow across to type your message unless you 
 touch the I phone some where else. Is this a bug or is there another way of 
 getting to the messaging field where you type the content of the message?
 
 Jonathan is absolutely right about typing with the Focus blue as I haven't 
 been using mine very much but its lovely. The only problem is i can't write 
 true UEB as Apple have strange ways of writing Braille which jonathan 
 explained once in his article. Writing on the Focus blue is better than 
 writing on the Apex!
 
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Re: can't connect my bluetooth devices to my mac anymore using mavericks.

2014-03-13 Thread Jessica Moss
No not yet will give it a shot though.

Sent from my iPhone

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 Have you tried removing them then try pairing them again.
 On Mar 13, 2014, at 6:55 AM, Jessica Moss junglebookfa...@gmail.com wrote:
 
 I've just noticed sense upgrading, that my bluetooth devices are still 
 showing up, but for some reason, the connect option seems to have 
 disappeared, and the only option I have is to remove them.  Does anyone know 
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Re: The bug for Messaging on the I phone.

2014-03-13 Thread Lisette Wesseling
I just mean you can touch the screen somewhere near the edit field towards the 
bottom of the screen. Double tapping there then lets you write in the edit 
field.
I just don't agree it's that unacceptable in the general scheme of things. 
Apple fixed a lot in the latest 7.1 release, including elimination of the focus 
issues when using the on screen keyboard. 

Lisette 

On 14/03/2014, at 9:53 am, Ray Foret Jr rforet7...@comcast.net wrote:

 What do you mean just touching the phone?  That bug is unacceptible and Apple 
 needs to know about it.
 
 
 Sent from my Mac, the only computer with full accessibility for the blind 
 built-in!
 
 Sincerely,
 The Constantly Barefooted Ray, still a very happy Mac and Iphone 5 user!
 
 On Mar 13, 2014, at 3:44 PM, Lisette Wesseling lisettewessel...@gmail.com 
 wrote:
 
 What's wrong with just touching the phone? I know it's a small bug but in 
 the scheme of things it's surely not a show stopper. Yes Apple needs to know 
 about it but to say it's unacceptable is a little strong methinks.
 
 
 On 13/03/2014, at 4:48 am, Ray Foret Jr rforet7...@comcast.net wrote:
 
 A point I myself have made several times here already.  Yesterday, Bill 
 Holton and I verified this issue.  My only suggestion is that we flood 
 Apple with this matter and indicate in blunt absolutely no uncertain terms 
 that this is positively unacceptable.
 
 
 Sent from my Mac, the only computer with full accessibility for the blind 
 built-in!
 
 Sincerely,
 The Constantly Barefooted Ray, still a very happy Mac and Iphone 5 user!
 
 On Mar 12, 2014, at 7:46 AM, Kawal Gucukoglu kawa...@me.com wrote:
 
 Hello.
 
 The bug for Messaging, I messaging is still on the I phone, you type your 
 contact and you still can't arrow across to type your message unless you 
 touch the I phone some where else. Is this a bug or is there another way 
 of getting to the messaging field where you type the content of the 
 message?
 
 Jonathan is absolutely right about typing with the Focus blue as I haven't 
 been using mine very much but its lovely. The only problem is i can't 
 write true UEB as Apple have strange ways of writing Braille which 
 jonathan explained once in his article. Writing on the Focus blue is 
 better than writing on the Apex!
 
 Kawal.
 
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Re: The bug for Messaging on the I phone.

2014-03-13 Thread Ray Foret Jr
That is not the bug I am talking about.  I'm talking about not being able to 
select a contact's mobile number when both a home number and mobile number are 
present in a contact's information.


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built-in!

Sincerely,
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On Mar 13, 2014, at 4:14 PM, Lisette Wesseling lisettewessel...@gmail.com 
wrote:

 I just mean you can touch the screen somewhere near the edit field towards 
 the bottom of the screen. Double tapping there then lets you write in the 
 edit field.
 I just don't agree it's that unacceptable in the general scheme of things. 
 Apple fixed a lot in the latest 7.1 release, including elimination of the 
 focus issues when using the on screen keyboard. 
 
 Lisette 
 
 On 14/03/2014, at 9:53 am, Ray Foret Jr rforet7...@comcast.net wrote:
 
 What do you mean just touching the phone?  That bug is unacceptible and 
 Apple needs to know about it.
 
 
 Sent from my Mac, the only computer with full accessibility for the blind 
 built-in!
 
 Sincerely,
 The Constantly Barefooted Ray, still a very happy Mac and Iphone 5 user!
 
 On Mar 13, 2014, at 3:44 PM, Lisette Wesseling lisettewessel...@gmail.com 
 wrote:
 
 What's wrong with just touching the phone? I know it's a small bug but in 
 the scheme of things it's surely not a show stopper. Yes Apple needs to 
 know about it but to say it's unacceptable is a little strong methinks.
 
 
 On 13/03/2014, at 4:48 am, Ray Foret Jr rforet7...@comcast.net wrote:
 
 A point I myself have made several times here already.  Yesterday, Bill 
 Holton and I verified this issue.  My only suggestion is that we flood 
 Apple with this matter and indicate in blunt absolutely no uncertain terms 
 that this is positively unacceptable.
 
 
 Sent from my Mac, the only computer with full accessibility for the blind 
 built-in!
 
 Sincerely,
 The Constantly Barefooted Ray, still a very happy Mac and Iphone 5 user!
 
 On Mar 12, 2014, at 7:46 AM, Kawal Gucukoglu kawa...@me.com wrote:
 
 Hello.
 
 The bug for Messaging, I messaging is still on the I phone, you type your 
 contact and you still can't arrow across to type your message unless you 
 touch the I phone some where else. Is this a bug or is there another way 
 of getting to the messaging field where you type the content of the 
 message?
 
 Jonathan is absolutely right about typing with the Focus blue as I 
 haven't been using mine very much but its lovely. The only problem is i 
 can't write true UEB as Apple have strange ways of writing Braille which 
 jonathan explained once in his article. Writing on the Focus blue is 
 better than writing on the Apex!
 
 Kawal.
 
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Re: The bug for Messaging on the I phone.

2014-03-13 Thread Kawal Gucukoglu
You need to touch the phone to get to the content of the message. It is very 
annoying!

 On 13 Mar 2014, at 08:53 pm, Ray Foret Jr rforet7...@comcast.net wrote:
 
 What do you mean just touching the phone?  That bug is unacceptible and Apple 
 needs to know about it.
 
 
 Sent from my Mac, the only computer with full accessibility for the blind 
 built-in!
 
 Sincerely,
 The Constantly Barefooted Ray, still a very happy Mac and Iphone 5 user!
 
 On Mar 13, 2014, at 3:44 PM, Lisette Wesseling lisettewessel...@gmail.com 
 wrote:
 
 What's wrong with just touching the phone? I know it's a small bug but in 
 the scheme of things it's surely not a show stopper. Yes Apple needs to know 
 about it but to say it's unacceptable is a little strong methinks.
 
 
 On 13/03/2014, at 4:48 am, Ray Foret Jr rforet7...@comcast.net wrote:
 
 A point I myself have made several times here already.  Yesterday, Bill 
 Holton and I verified this issue.  My only suggestion is that we flood 
 Apple with this matter and indicate in blunt absolutely no uncertain terms 
 that this is positively unacceptable.
 
 
 Sent from my Mac, the only computer with full accessibility for the blind 
 built-in!
 
 Sincerely,
 The Constantly Barefooted Ray, still a very happy Mac and Iphone 5 user!
 
 On Mar 12, 2014, at 7:46 AM, Kawal Gucukoglu kawa...@me.com wrote:
 
 Hello.
 
 The bug for Messaging, I messaging is still on the I phone, you type your 
 contact and you still can't arrow across to type your message unless you 
 touch the I phone some where else. Is this a bug or is there another way 
 of getting to the messaging field where you type the content of the 
 message?
 
 Jonathan is absolutely right about typing with the Focus blue as I haven't 
 been using mine very much but its lovely. The only problem is i can't 
 write true UEB as Apple have strange ways of writing Braille which 
 jonathan explained once in his article. Writing on the Focus blue is 
 better than writing on the Apex!
 
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Re: The bug for Messaging on the I phone.

2014-03-13 Thread Cheryl Homiak
Yes, I was wondering why this was such a big deal as well. It hadn't even 
occurred to me to think about it; I just touch the screen!

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 and the meditation of my heart
 be acceptable to You, Lord,
 my rock and my Redeemer.
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 On Mar 13, 2014, at 3:44 PM, Lisette Wesseling lisettewessel...@gmail.com 
 wrote:
 
 What's wrong with just touching the phone? I know it's a small bug but in the 
 scheme of things it's surely not a show stopper. Yes Apple needs to know 
 about it but to say it's unacceptable is a little strong methinks.
 
 
 On 13/03/2014, at 4:48 am, Ray Foret Jr rforet7...@comcast.net wrote:
 
 A point I myself have made several times here already.  Yesterday, Bill 
 Holton and I verified this issue.  My only suggestion is that we flood Apple 
 with this matter and indicate in blunt absolutely no uncertain terms that 
 this is positively unacceptable.
 
 
 Sent from my Mac, the only computer with full accessibility for the blind 
 built-in!
 
 Sincerely,
 The Constantly Barefooted Ray, still a very happy Mac and Iphone 5 user!
 
 On Mar 12, 2014, at 7:46 AM, Kawal Gucukoglu kawa...@me.com wrote:
 
 Hello.
 
 The bug for Messaging, I messaging is still on the I phone, you type your 
 contact and you still can't arrow across to type your message unless you 
 touch the I phone some where else. Is this a bug or is there another way of 
 getting to the messaging field where you type the content of the message?
 
 Jonathan is absolutely right about typing with the Focus blue as I haven't 
 been using mine very much but its lovely. The only problem is i can't write 
 true UEB as Apple have strange ways of writing Braille which jonathan 
 explained once in his article. Writing on the Focus blue is better than 
 writing on the Apex!
 
 Kawal.
 
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Re: The bug for Messaging on the I phone.

2014-03-13 Thread Danny Noonan
For most people this is a perfectly reasonable solution until the minor bug is 
addressed. For a minority with different usage needs or a lower tollerence to 
imperfection however this is of high importance. If a keyboard or Braille 
display  is used a distance from the I device for example moving to the device 
every time may be highly irritating and if there is a mobility issue through 
disability a broken foot etc etc this little bug gains a lot more importance. 

Regardless write to apple and help it get fixed for the good of us all as a bug 
is a bug is a bug and full functionalety via brl display or qwerty is the aim 
and intent. I don't want to have to pull my phone out of my bag on the train to 
write a message. Is it the end of the world, no but it is a pain. Smile. 


Danny. 
Sent from my iPhone

 On 14 Mar 2014, at 8:14 am, Lisette Wesseling lisettewessel...@gmail.com 
 wrote:
 
 I just mean you can touch the screen somewhere near the edit field towards 
 the bottom of the screen. Double tapping there then lets you write in the 
 edit field.
 I just don't agree it's that unacceptable in the general scheme of things. 
 Apple fixed a lot in the latest 7.1 release, including elimination of the 
 focus issues when using the on screen keyboard. 
 
 Lisette 
 
 On 14/03/2014, at 9:53 am, Ray Foret Jr rforet7...@comcast.net wrote:
 
 What do you mean just touching the phone?  That bug is unacceptible and 
 Apple needs to know about it.
 
 
 Sent from my Mac, the only computer with full accessibility for the blind 
 built-in!
 
 Sincerely,
 The Constantly Barefooted Ray, still a very happy Mac and Iphone 5 user!
 
 On Mar 13, 2014, at 3:44 PM, Lisette Wesseling lisettewessel...@gmail.com 
 wrote:
 
 What's wrong with just touching the phone? I know it's a small bug but in 
 the scheme of things it's surely not a show stopper. Yes Apple needs to 
 know about it but to say it's unacceptable is a little strong methinks.
 
 
 On 13/03/2014, at 4:48 am, Ray Foret Jr rforet7...@comcast.net wrote:
 
 A point I myself have made several times here already.  Yesterday, Bill 
 Holton and I verified this issue.  My only suggestion is that we flood 
 Apple with this matter and indicate in blunt absolutely no uncertain terms 
 that this is positively unacceptable.
 
 
 Sent from my Mac, the only computer with full accessibility for the blind 
 built-in!
 
 Sincerely,
 The Constantly Barefooted Ray, still a very happy Mac and Iphone 5 user!
 
 On Mar 12, 2014, at 7:46 AM, Kawal Gucukoglu kawa...@me.com wrote:
 
 Hello.
 
 The bug for Messaging, I messaging is still on the I phone, you type your 
 contact and you still can't arrow across to type your message unless you 
 touch the I phone some where else. Is this a bug or is there another way 
 of getting to the messaging field where you type the content of the 
 message?
 
 Jonathan is absolutely right about typing with the Focus blue as I 
 haven't been using mine very much but its lovely. The only problem is i 
 can't write true UEB as Apple have strange ways of writing Braille which 
 jonathan explained once in his article. Writing on the Focus blue is 
 better than writing on the Apex!
 
 Kawal.
 
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Re: The bug for Messaging on the I phone.

2014-03-13 Thread Ray Foret Jr
Let me try to explain a little more exactly what the problem really is and why 
it's a big deal to me.

1.  Go in to message app.

2.  Double tap compose.

3.  Now, double tap to choose a contact to add.

4.  Now, choose a contact where there is both a home and mobile number and the 
home number is listed first.

5.  Now, double tap on the mobile number.

6.  Now, examine the to field.  You will notice that the home number is 
selected.

This is the case whether you do this inside message or the contacts 
app.  See what the problem is?


Sent from my Mac, the only computer with full accessibility for the blind 
built-in!

Sincerely,
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On Mar 13, 2014, at 4:24 PM, Kawal Gucukoglu kawa...@me.com wrote:

 Do you mean on the iMac or the iPhone? As I have no problem with selecting 
 contacts on the iPhone.
 
 On 13 Mar 2014, at 09:21 pm, Ray Foret Jr rforet7...@comcast.net wrote:
 
 That is not the bug I am talking about.  I'm talking about not being able to 
 select a contact's mobile number when both a home number and mobile number 
 are present in a contact's information.
 
 
 Sent from my Mac, the only computer with full accessibility for the blind 
 built-in!
 
 Sincerely,
 The Constantly Barefooted Ray, still a very happy Mac and Iphone 5 user!
 
 On Mar 13, 2014, at 4:14 PM, Lisette Wesseling lisettewessel...@gmail.com 
 wrote:
 
 I just mean you can touch the screen somewhere near the edit field towards 
 the bottom of the screen. Double tapping there then lets you write in the 
 edit field.
 I just don't agree it's that unacceptable in the general scheme of things. 
 Apple fixed a lot in the latest 7.1 release, including elimination of the 
 focus issues when using the on screen keyboard. 
 
 Lisette 
 
 On 14/03/2014, at 9:53 am, Ray Foret Jr rforet7...@comcast.net wrote:
 
 What do you mean just touching the phone?  That bug is unacceptible and 
 Apple needs to know about it.
 
 
 Sent from my Mac, the only computer with full accessibility for the blind 
 built-in!
 
 Sincerely,
 The Constantly Barefooted Ray, still a very happy Mac and Iphone 5 user!
 
 On Mar 13, 2014, at 3:44 PM, Lisette Wesseling 
 lisettewessel...@gmail.com wrote:
 
 What's wrong with just touching the phone? I know it's a small bug but in 
 the scheme of things it's surely not a show stopper. Yes Apple needs to 
 know about it but to say it's unacceptable is a little strong methinks.
 
 
 On 13/03/2014, at 4:48 am, Ray Foret Jr rforet7...@comcast.net wrote:
 
 A point I myself have made several times here already.  Yesterday, Bill 
 Holton and I verified this issue.  My only suggestion is that we flood 
 Apple with this matter and indicate in blunt absolutely no uncertain 
 terms that this is positively unacceptable.
 
 
 Sent from my Mac, the only computer with full accessibility for the 
 blind built-in!
 
 Sincerely,
 The Constantly Barefooted Ray, still a very happy Mac and Iphone 5 user!
 
 On Mar 12, 2014, at 7:46 AM, Kawal Gucukoglu kawa...@me.com wrote:
 
 Hello.
 
 The bug for Messaging, I messaging is still on the I phone, you type 
 your contact and you still can't arrow across to type your message 
 unless you touch the I phone some where else. Is this a bug or is there 
 another way of getting to the messaging field where you type the 
 content of the message?
 
 Jonathan is absolutely right about typing with the Focus blue as I 
 haven't been using mine very much but its lovely. The only problem is i 
 can't write true UEB as Apple have strange ways of writing Braille 
 which jonathan explained once in his article. Writing on the Focus blue 
 is better than writing on the Apex!
 
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Re: The bug for Messaging on the I phone.

2014-03-13 Thread Kawal Gucukoglu
Do you mean on the iMac or the iPhone? As I have no problem with selecting 
contacts on the iPhone.

 On 13 Mar 2014, at 09:21 pm, Ray Foret Jr rforet7...@comcast.net wrote:
 
 That is not the bug I am talking about.  I'm talking about not being able to 
 select a contact's mobile number when both a home number and mobile number 
 are present in a contact's information.
 
 
 Sent from my Mac, the only computer with full accessibility for the blind 
 built-in!
 
 Sincerely,
 The Constantly Barefooted Ray, still a very happy Mac and Iphone 5 user!
 
 On Mar 13, 2014, at 4:14 PM, Lisette Wesseling lisettewessel...@gmail.com 
 wrote:
 
 I just mean you can touch the screen somewhere near the edit field towards 
 the bottom of the screen. Double tapping there then lets you write in the 
 edit field.
 I just don't agree it's that unacceptable in the general scheme of things. 
 Apple fixed a lot in the latest 7.1 release, including elimination of the 
 focus issues when using the on screen keyboard. 
 
 Lisette 
 
 On 14/03/2014, at 9:53 am, Ray Foret Jr rforet7...@comcast.net wrote:
 
 What do you mean just touching the phone?  That bug is unacceptible and 
 Apple needs to know about it.
 
 
 Sent from my Mac, the only computer with full accessibility for the blind 
 built-in!
 
 Sincerely,
 The Constantly Barefooted Ray, still a very happy Mac and Iphone 5 user!
 
 On Mar 13, 2014, at 3:44 PM, Lisette Wesseling 
 lisettewessel...@gmail.com wrote:
 
 What's wrong with just touching the phone? I know it's a small bug but in 
 the scheme of things it's surely not a show stopper. Yes Apple needs to 
 know about it but to say it's unacceptable is a little strong methinks.
 
 
 On 13/03/2014, at 4:48 am, Ray Foret Jr rforet7...@comcast.net wrote:
 
 A point I myself have made several times here already.  Yesterday, Bill 
 Holton and I verified this issue.  My only suggestion is that we flood 
 Apple with this matter and indicate in blunt absolutely no uncertain 
 terms that this is positively unacceptable.
 
 
 Sent from my Mac, the only computer with full accessibility for the blind 
 built-in!
 
 Sincerely,
 The Constantly Barefooted Ray, still a very happy Mac and Iphone 5 user!
 
 On Mar 12, 2014, at 7:46 AM, Kawal Gucukoglu kawa...@me.com wrote:
 
 Hello.
 
 The bug for Messaging, I messaging is still on the I phone, you type 
 your contact and you still can't arrow across to type your message 
 unless you touch the I phone some where else. Is this a bug or is there 
 another way of getting to the messaging field where you type the content 
 of the message?
 
 Jonathan is absolutely right about typing with the Focus blue as I 
 haven't been using mine very much but its lovely. The only problem is i 
 can't write true UEB as Apple have strange ways of writing Braille which 
 jonathan explained once in his article. Writing on the Focus blue is 
 better than writing on the Apex!
 
 Kawal.
 
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Re: The bug for Messaging on the I phone.

2014-03-13 Thread David Chittenden
People are inherently lazy. I only use my braille keyboard for typing. I do 
everything on the touchscreen itself. This is because I know everything will 
eventually go to touchscreens, so I want to be as comfortable with touchscreen 
as possible. Most people appear to hope that this will not ultimately be the 
case, even though every trend and all the research indicates it will be, so 
people keep trying everything they can to keep things at the haptic comfort 
levels they have known from the past.

The fact is, however, that as of 2011, touchscreen panels have become less 
expensive to manufacture than static screen panels with separate physical 
control buttons.

David Chittenden, MSc, MRCAA
Email: dchitten...@gmail.com
Mobile: +64 21 2288 288
Sent from my iPhone

 On 14 Mar 2014, at 9:44, Lisette Wesseling lisettewessel...@gmail.com wrote:
 
 What's wrong with just touching the phone? I know it's a small bug but in the 
 scheme of things it's surely not a show stopper. Yes Apple needs to know 
 about it but to say it's unacceptable is a little strong methinks.
 
 
 On 13/03/2014, at 4:48 am, Ray Foret Jr rforet7...@comcast.net wrote:
 
 A point I myself have made several times here already.  Yesterday, Bill 
 Holton and I verified this issue.  My only suggestion is that we flood Apple 
 with this matter and indicate in blunt absolutely no uncertain terms that 
 this is positively unacceptable.
 
 
 Sent from my Mac, the only computer with full accessibility for the blind 
 built-in!
 
 Sincerely,
 The Constantly Barefooted Ray, still a very happy Mac and Iphone 5 user!
 
 On Mar 12, 2014, at 7:46 AM, Kawal Gucukoglu kawa...@me.com wrote:
 
 Hello.
 
 The bug for Messaging, I messaging is still on the I phone, you type your 
 contact and you still can't arrow across to type your message unless you 
 touch the I phone some where else. Is this a bug or is there another way of 
 getting to the messaging field where you type the content of the message?
 
 Jonathan is absolutely right about typing with the Focus blue as I haven't 
 been using mine very much but its lovely. The only problem is i can't write 
 true UEB as Apple have strange ways of writing Braille which jonathan 
 explained once in his article. Writing on the Focus blue is better than 
 writing on the Apex!
 
 Kawal.
 
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Re: The bug for Messaging on the I phone.

2014-03-13 Thread David Chittenden
Just go further down the screen to find the other contact number. It is there. 

David Chittenden, MSc, MRCAA
Email: dchitten...@gmail.com
Mobile: +64 21 2288 288
Sent from my iPhone

 On 14 Mar 2014, at 10:21, Ray Foret Jr rforet7...@comcast.net wrote:
 
 That is not the bug I am talking about.  I'm talking about not being able to 
 select a contact's mobile number when both a home number and mobile number 
 are present in a contact's information.
 
 
 Sent from my Mac, the only computer with full accessibility for the blind 
 built-in!
 
 Sincerely,
 The Constantly Barefooted Ray, still a very happy Mac and Iphone 5 user!
 
 On Mar 13, 2014, at 4:14 PM, Lisette Wesseling lisettewessel...@gmail.com 
 wrote:
 
 I just mean you can touch the screen somewhere near the edit field towards 
 the bottom of the screen. Double tapping there then lets you write in the 
 edit field.
 I just don't agree it's that unacceptable in the general scheme of things. 
 Apple fixed a lot in the latest 7.1 release, including elimination of the 
 focus issues when using the on screen keyboard. 
 
 Lisette 
 
 On 14/03/2014, at 9:53 am, Ray Foret Jr rforet7...@comcast.net wrote:
 
 What do you mean just touching the phone?  That bug is unacceptible and 
 Apple needs to know about it.
 
 
 Sent from my Mac, the only computer with full accessibility for the blind 
 built-in!
 
 Sincerely,
 The Constantly Barefooted Ray, still a very happy Mac and Iphone 5 user!
 
 On Mar 13, 2014, at 3:44 PM, Lisette Wesseling 
 lisettewessel...@gmail.com wrote:
 
 What's wrong with just touching the phone? I know it's a small bug but in 
 the scheme of things it's surely not a show stopper. Yes Apple needs to 
 know about it but to say it's unacceptable is a little strong methinks.
 
 
 On 13/03/2014, at 4:48 am, Ray Foret Jr rforet7...@comcast.net wrote:
 
 A point I myself have made several times here already.  Yesterday, Bill 
 Holton and I verified this issue.  My only suggestion is that we flood 
 Apple with this matter and indicate in blunt absolutely no uncertain 
 terms that this is positively unacceptable.
 
 
 Sent from my Mac, the only computer with full accessibility for the blind 
 built-in!
 
 Sincerely,
 The Constantly Barefooted Ray, still a very happy Mac and Iphone 5 user!
 
 On Mar 12, 2014, at 7:46 AM, Kawal Gucukoglu kawa...@me.com wrote:
 
 Hello.
 
 The bug for Messaging, I messaging is still on the I phone, you type 
 your contact and you still can't arrow across to type your message 
 unless you touch the I phone some where else. Is this a bug or is there 
 another way of getting to the messaging field where you type the content 
 of the message?
 
 Jonathan is absolutely right about typing with the Focus blue as I 
 haven't been using mine very much but its lovely. The only problem is i 
 can't write true UEB as Apple have strange ways of writing Braille which 
 jonathan explained once in his article. Writing on the Focus blue is 
 better than writing on the Apex!
 
 Kawal.
 
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Re: The bug for Messaging on the I phone.

2014-03-13 Thread David Chittenden
The funny thing about your response is, sighted people always pull their phones 
out of their bags or pockets in order to write a reply. 

David Chittenden, MSc, MRCAA
Email: dchitten...@gmail.com
Mobile: +64 21 2288 288
Sent from my iPhone

 On 14 Mar 2014, at 10:28, Danny Noonan da...@familynoonan.net wrote:
 
 For most people this is a perfectly reasonable solution until the minor bug 
 is addressed. For a minority with different usage needs or a lower tollerence 
 to imperfection however this is of high importance. If a keyboard or Braille 
 display  is used a distance from the I device for example moving to the 
 device every time may be highly irritating and if there is a mobility issue 
 through disability a broken foot etc etc this little bug gains a lot more 
 importance. 
 
 Regardless write to apple and help it get fixed for the good of us all as a 
 bug is a bug is a bug and full functionalety via brl display or qwerty is the 
 aim and intent. I don't want to have to pull my phone out of my bag on the 
 train to write a message. Is it the end of the world, no but it is a pain. 
 Smile. 
 
 
 Danny. 
 Sent from my iPhone
 
 On 14 Mar 2014, at 8:14 am, Lisette Wesseling lisettewessel...@gmail.com 
 wrote:
 
 I just mean you can touch the screen somewhere near the edit field towards 
 the bottom of the screen. Double tapping there then lets you write in the 
 edit field.
 I just don't agree it's that unacceptable in the general scheme of things. 
 Apple fixed a lot in the latest 7.1 release, including elimination of the 
 focus issues when using the on screen keyboard. 
 
 Lisette 
 
 On 14/03/2014, at 9:53 am, Ray Foret Jr rforet7...@comcast.net wrote:
 
 What do you mean just touching the phone?  That bug is unacceptible and 
 Apple needs to know about it.
 
 
 Sent from my Mac, the only computer with full accessibility for the blind 
 built-in!
 
 Sincerely,
 The Constantly Barefooted Ray, still a very happy Mac and Iphone 5 user!
 
 On Mar 13, 2014, at 3:44 PM, Lisette Wesseling 
 lisettewessel...@gmail.com wrote:
 
 What's wrong with just touching the phone? I know it's a small bug but in 
 the scheme of things it's surely not a show stopper. Yes Apple needs to 
 know about it but to say it's unacceptable is a little strong methinks.
 
 
 On 13/03/2014, at 4:48 am, Ray Foret Jr rforet7...@comcast.net wrote:
 
 A point I myself have made several times here already.  Yesterday, Bill 
 Holton and I verified this issue.  My only suggestion is that we flood 
 Apple with this matter and indicate in blunt absolutely no uncertain 
 terms that this is positively unacceptable.
 
 
 Sent from my Mac, the only computer with full accessibility for the blind 
 built-in!
 
 Sincerely,
 The Constantly Barefooted Ray, still a very happy Mac and Iphone 5 user!
 
 On Mar 12, 2014, at 7:46 AM, Kawal Gucukoglu kawa...@me.com wrote:
 
 Hello.
 
 The bug for Messaging, I messaging is still on the I phone, you type 
 your contact and you still can't arrow across to type your message 
 unless you touch the I phone some where else. Is this a bug or is there 
 another way of getting to the messaging field where you type the content 
 of the message?
 
 Jonathan is absolutely right about typing with the Focus blue as I 
 haven't been using mine very much but its lovely. The only problem is i 
 can't write true UEB as Apple have strange ways of writing Braille which 
 jonathan explained once in his article. Writing on the Focus blue is 
 better than writing on the Apex!
 
 Kawal.
 
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Re: The bug for Messaging on the I phone.

2014-03-13 Thread David Chittenden
No, I am not experiencing that. When I select the mobile number, the mobile 
number appears in the to field. 

David Chittenden, MSc, MRCAA
Email: dchitten...@gmail.com
Mobile: +64 21 2288 288
Sent from my iPhone

 On 14 Mar 2014, at 10:36, Ray Foret Jr rforet7...@comcast.net wrote:
 
 Let me try to explain a little more exactly what the problem really is and 
 why it's a big deal to me.
 
 1.  Go in to message app.
 
 2.  Double tap compose.
 
 3.  Now, double tap to choose a contact to add.
 
 4.  Now, choose a contact where there is both a home and mobile number and 
 the home number is listed first.
 
 5.  Now, double tap on the mobile number.
 
 6.  Now, examine the to field.  You will notice that the home number is 
 selected.
 
This is the case whether you do this inside message or the contacts app.  
 See what the problem is?
 
 
 Sent from my Mac, the only computer with full accessibility for the blind 
 built-in!
 
 Sincerely,
 The Constantly Barefooted Ray, still a very happy Mac and Iphone 5 user!
 
 On Mar 13, 2014, at 4:24 PM, Kawal Gucukoglu kawa...@me.com wrote:
 
 Do you mean on the iMac or the iPhone? As I have no problem with selecting 
 contacts on the iPhone.
 
 On 13 Mar 2014, at 09:21 pm, Ray Foret Jr rforet7...@comcast.net wrote:
 
 That is not the bug I am talking about.  I'm talking about not being able 
 to select a contact's mobile number when both a home number and mobile 
 number are present in a contact's information.
 
 
 Sent from my Mac, the only computer with full accessibility for the blind 
 built-in!
 
 Sincerely,
 The Constantly Barefooted Ray, still a very happy Mac and Iphone 5 user!
 
 On Mar 13, 2014, at 4:14 PM, Lisette Wesseling 
 lisettewessel...@gmail.com wrote:
 
 I just mean you can touch the screen somewhere near the edit field towards 
 the bottom of the screen. Double tapping there then lets you write in the 
 edit field.
 I just don't agree it's that unacceptable in the general scheme of things. 
 Apple fixed a lot in the latest 7.1 release, including elimination of the 
 focus issues when using the on screen keyboard. 
 
 Lisette 
 
 On 14/03/2014, at 9:53 am, Ray Foret Jr rforet7...@comcast.net wrote:
 
 What do you mean just touching the phone?  That bug is unacceptible and 
 Apple needs to know about it.
 
 
 Sent from my Mac, the only computer with full accessibility for the blind 
 built-in!
 
 Sincerely,
 The Constantly Barefooted Ray, still a very happy Mac and Iphone 5 user!
 
 On Mar 13, 2014, at 3:44 PM, Lisette Wesseling 
 lisettewessel...@gmail.com wrote:
 
 What's wrong with just touching the phone? I know it's a small bug but 
 in the scheme of things it's surely not a show stopper. Yes Apple needs 
 to know about it but to say it's unacceptable is a little strong 
 methinks.
 
 
 On 13/03/2014, at 4:48 am, Ray Foret Jr rforet7...@comcast.net wrote:
 
 A point I myself have made several times here already.  Yesterday, Bill 
 Holton and I verified this issue.  My only suggestion is that we flood 
 Apple with this matter and indicate in blunt absolutely no uncertain 
 terms that this is positively unacceptable.
 
 
 Sent from my Mac, the only computer with full accessibility for the 
 blind built-in!
 
 Sincerely,
 The Constantly Barefooted Ray, still a very happy Mac and Iphone 5 user!
 
 On Mar 12, 2014, at 7:46 AM, Kawal Gucukoglu kawa...@me.com wrote:
 
 Hello.
 
 The bug for Messaging, I messaging is still on the I phone, you type 
 your contact and you still can't arrow across to type your message 
 unless you touch the I phone some where else. Is this a bug or is 
 there another way of getting to the messaging field where you type the 
 content of the message?
 
 Jonathan is absolutely right about typing with the Focus blue as I 
 haven't been using mine very much but its lovely. The only problem is 
 i can't write true UEB as Apple have strange ways of writing Braille 
 which jonathan explained once in his article. Writing on the Focus 
 blue is better than writing on the Apex!
 
 Kawal.
 
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Re: The bug for Messaging on the I phone.

2014-03-13 Thread Ray Foret Jr
You mean move down from the home number?  Thing is, I'm double tapping on the 
mobile number to select it but the home number gets selected instead.  
Sent from my Mac, the only computer with full accessibility for the blind 
built-in!

Sincerely,
The Constantly Barefooted Ray, still a very happy Mac and Iphone 5 user!

On Mar 13, 2014, at 4:53 PM, David Chittenden dchitten...@gmail.com wrote:

 Just go further down the screen to find the other contact number. It is 
 there. 
 
 David Chittenden, MSc, MRCAA
 Email: dchitten...@gmail.com
 Mobile: +64 21 2288 288
 Sent from my iPhone
 
 On 14 Mar 2014, at 10:21, Ray Foret Jr rforet7...@comcast.net wrote:
 
 That is not the bug I am talking about.  I'm talking about not being able to 
 select a contact's mobile number when both a home number and mobile number 
 are present in a contact's information.
 
 
 Sent from my Mac, the only computer with full accessibility for the blind 
 built-in!
 
 Sincerely,
 The Constantly Barefooted Ray, still a very happy Mac and Iphone 5 user!
 
 On Mar 13, 2014, at 4:14 PM, Lisette Wesseling lisettewessel...@gmail.com 
 wrote:
 
 I just mean you can touch the screen somewhere near the edit field towards 
 the bottom of the screen. Double tapping there then lets you write in the 
 edit field.
 I just don't agree it's that unacceptable in the general scheme of things. 
 Apple fixed a lot in the latest 7.1 release, including elimination of the 
 focus issues when using the on screen keyboard. 
 
 Lisette 
 
 On 14/03/2014, at 9:53 am, Ray Foret Jr rforet7...@comcast.net wrote:
 
 What do you mean just touching the phone?  That bug is unacceptible and 
 Apple needs to know about it.
 
 
 Sent from my Mac, the only computer with full accessibility for the blind 
 built-in!
 
 Sincerely,
 The Constantly Barefooted Ray, still a very happy Mac and Iphone 5 user!
 
 On Mar 13, 2014, at 3:44 PM, Lisette Wesseling 
 lisettewessel...@gmail.com wrote:
 
 What's wrong with just touching the phone? I know it's a small bug but in 
 the scheme of things it's surely not a show stopper. Yes Apple needs to 
 know about it but to say it's unacceptable is a little strong methinks.
 
 
 On 13/03/2014, at 4:48 am, Ray Foret Jr rforet7...@comcast.net wrote:
 
 A point I myself have made several times here already.  Yesterday, Bill 
 Holton and I verified this issue.  My only suggestion is that we flood 
 Apple with this matter and indicate in blunt absolutely no uncertain 
 terms that this is positively unacceptable.
 
 
 Sent from my Mac, the only computer with full accessibility for the 
 blind built-in!
 
 Sincerely,
 The Constantly Barefooted Ray, still a very happy Mac and Iphone 5 user!
 
 On Mar 12, 2014, at 7:46 AM, Kawal Gucukoglu kawa...@me.com wrote:
 
 Hello.
 
 The bug for Messaging, I messaging is still on the I phone, you type 
 your contact and you still can't arrow across to type your message 
 unless you touch the I phone some where else. Is this a bug or is there 
 another way of getting to the messaging field where you type the 
 content of the message?
 
 Jonathan is absolutely right about typing with the Focus blue as I 
 haven't been using mine very much but its lovely. The only problem is i 
 can't write true UEB as Apple have strange ways of writing Braille 
 which jonathan explained once in his article. Writing on the Focus blue 
 is better than writing on the Apex!
 
 Kawal.
 
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Apple Script saving .aiff file

2014-03-13 Thread Traci Duncan
Hi all,

I've done this in the past and I can't remember how.  It is driving me crazy 
and googling isn't getting me the correct solution.

If I'm creating a script with the say command, using a particular voice, what 
is the last line in the script to save that as an .aiff file?

One reason I'm doing this via Apple script instead of save to iTunes as a 
spoken track, is I want to use the beep command before the say command.

Fingers crossed, someone out there knows exactly what I need.  :)

Traci

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Messages in junk folder

2014-03-13 Thread cougar1...@gmail.com
Hello,

I am using a Mac Mini with the latest version of Mavericks.  I now have 9 
messages in my junk folder and have deleted them countless times but they keep 
reappearing.  How do I get rid of them?

Thanks
Steve

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Re: The bug for Messaging on the I phone.

2014-03-13 Thread David Chittenden
As I have not experienced what you are talking about, I would suggest you take 
the iPhone to either an Apple Store or mobile carrier store and show them what 
is going on. That is definitely a strange situation. 

The steps I would take are: First, reboot the phone by turning it off and then 
on. Second, hard reboot the phone by holding the home and power buttons for 12 
seconds. Third, connect the phone to iTunes and run a repair after creating a 
secure back-up. Fourth, take the phone to the carrier store. Note that each 
step is the next level up.

David Chittenden, MSc, MRCAA
Email: dchitten...@gmail.com
Mobile: +64 21 2288 288
Sent from my iPhone

 On 14 Mar 2014, at 10:56, Ray Foret Jr rforet7...@comcast.net wrote:
 
 You mean move down from the home number?  Thing is, I'm double tapping on the 
 mobile number to select it but the home number gets selected instead.  
 Sent from my Mac, the only computer with full accessibility for the blind 
 built-in!
 
 Sincerely,
 The Constantly Barefooted Ray, still a very happy Mac and Iphone 5 user!
 
 On Mar 13, 2014, at 4:53 PM, David Chittenden dchitten...@gmail.com wrote:
 
 Just go further down the screen to find the other contact number. It is 
 there. 
 
 David Chittenden, MSc, MRCAA
 Email: dchitten...@gmail.com
 Mobile: +64 21 2288 288
 Sent from my iPhone
 
 On 14 Mar 2014, at 10:21, Ray Foret Jr rforet7...@comcast.net wrote:
 
 That is not the bug I am talking about.  I'm talking about not being able 
 to select a contact's mobile number when both a home number and mobile 
 number are present in a contact's information.
 
 
 Sent from my Mac, the only computer with full accessibility for the blind 
 built-in!
 
 Sincerely,
 The Constantly Barefooted Ray, still a very happy Mac and Iphone 5 user!
 
 On Mar 13, 2014, at 4:14 PM, Lisette Wesseling 
 lisettewessel...@gmail.com wrote:
 
 I just mean you can touch the screen somewhere near the edit field towards 
 the bottom of the screen. Double tapping there then lets you write in the 
 edit field.
 I just don't agree it's that unacceptable in the general scheme of things. 
 Apple fixed a lot in the latest 7.1 release, including elimination of the 
 focus issues when using the on screen keyboard. 
 
 Lisette 
 
 On 14/03/2014, at 9:53 am, Ray Foret Jr rforet7...@comcast.net wrote:
 
 What do you mean just touching the phone?  That bug is unacceptible and 
 Apple needs to know about it.
 
 
 Sent from my Mac, the only computer with full accessibility for the blind 
 built-in!
 
 Sincerely,
 The Constantly Barefooted Ray, still a very happy Mac and Iphone 5 user!
 
 On Mar 13, 2014, at 3:44 PM, Lisette Wesseling 
 lisettewessel...@gmail.com wrote:
 
 What's wrong with just touching the phone? I know it's a small bug but 
 in the scheme of things it's surely not a show stopper. Yes Apple needs 
 to know about it but to say it's unacceptable is a little strong 
 methinks.
 
 
 On 13/03/2014, at 4:48 am, Ray Foret Jr rforet7...@comcast.net wrote:
 
 A point I myself have made several times here already.  Yesterday, Bill 
 Holton and I verified this issue.  My only suggestion is that we flood 
 Apple with this matter and indicate in blunt absolutely no uncertain 
 terms that this is positively unacceptable.
 
 
 Sent from my Mac, the only computer with full accessibility for the 
 blind built-in!
 
 Sincerely,
 The Constantly Barefooted Ray, still a very happy Mac and Iphone 5 user!
 
 On Mar 12, 2014, at 7:46 AM, Kawal Gucukoglu kawa...@me.com wrote:
 
 Hello.
 
 The bug for Messaging, I messaging is still on the I phone, you type 
 your contact and you still can't arrow across to type your message 
 unless you touch the I phone some where else. Is this a bug or is 
 there another way of getting to the messaging field where you type the 
 content of the message?
 
 Jonathan is absolutely right about typing with the Focus blue as I 
 haven't been using mine very much but its lovely. The only problem is 
 i can't write true UEB as Apple have strange ways of writing Braille 
 which jonathan explained once in his article. Writing on the Focus 
 blue is better than writing on the Apex!
 
 Kawal.
 
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Re: The bug for Messaging on the I phone.

2014-03-13 Thread Regina Alvarado
Ray, only way I see to get around it is to start writing name of the person and 
then all numbers will show up. However you are correct. It sure does enter the 
home number if you go into contacts and tap on iPhone number. 


reggie and Allegra

On Mar 13, 2014, at 5:36 PM, Ray Foret Jr rforet7...@comcast.net wrote:

Let me try to explain a little more exactly what the problem really is and why 
it's a big deal to me.

1.  Go in to message app.

2.  Double tap compose.

3.  Now, double tap to choose a contact to add.

4.  Now, choose a contact where there is both a home and mobile number and the 
home number is listed first.

5.  Now, double tap on the mobile number.

6.  Now, examine the to field.  You will notice that the home number is 
selected.

   This is the case whether you do this inside message or the contacts app.  
See what the problem is?


Sent from my Mac, the only computer with full accessibility for the blind 
built-in!

Sincerely,
The Constantly Barefooted Ray, still a very happy Mac and Iphone 5 user!

 On Mar 13, 2014, at 4:24 PM, Kawal Gucukoglu kawa...@me.com wrote:
 
 Do you mean on the iMac or the iPhone? As I have no problem with selecting 
 contacts on the iPhone.
 
 On 13 Mar 2014, at 09:21 pm, Ray Foret Jr rforet7...@comcast.net wrote:
 
 That is not the bug I am talking about.  I'm talking about not being able to 
 select a contact's mobile number when both a home number and mobile number 
 are present in a contact's information.
 
 
 Sent from my Mac, the only computer with full accessibility for the blind 
 built-in!
 
 Sincerely,
 The Constantly Barefooted Ray, still a very happy Mac and Iphone 5 user!
 
 On Mar 13, 2014, at 4:14 PM, Lisette Wesseling lisettewessel...@gmail.com 
 wrote:
 
 I just mean you can touch the screen somewhere near the edit field towards 
 the bottom of the screen. Double tapping there then lets you write in the 
 edit field.
 I just don't agree it's that unacceptable in the general scheme of things. 
 Apple fixed a lot in the latest 7.1 release, including elimination of the 
 focus issues when using the on screen keyboard. 
 
 Lisette 
 
 On 14/03/2014, at 9:53 am, Ray Foret Jr rforet7...@comcast.net wrote:
 
 What do you mean just touching the phone?  That bug is unacceptible and 
 Apple needs to know about it.
 
 
 Sent from my Mac, the only computer with full accessibility for the blind 
 built-in!
 
 Sincerely,
 The Constantly Barefooted Ray, still a very happy Mac and Iphone 5 user!
 
 On Mar 13, 2014, at 3:44 PM, Lisette Wesseling 
 lisettewessel...@gmail.com wrote:
 
 What's wrong with just touching the phone? I know it's a small bug but in 
 the scheme of things it's surely not a show stopper. Yes Apple needs to 
 know about it but to say it's unacceptable is a little strong methinks.
 
 
 On 13/03/2014, at 4:48 am, Ray Foret Jr rforet7...@comcast.net wrote:
 
 A point I myself have made several times here already.  Yesterday, Bill 
 Holton and I verified this issue.  My only suggestion is that we flood 
 Apple with this matter and indicate in blunt absolutely no uncertain 
 terms that this is positively unacceptable.
 
 
 Sent from my Mac, the only computer with full accessibility for the 
 blind built-in!
 
 Sincerely,
 The Constantly Barefooted Ray, still a very happy Mac and Iphone 5 user!
 
 On Mar 12, 2014, at 7:46 AM, Kawal Gucukoglu kawa...@me.com wrote:
 
 Hello.
 
 The bug for Messaging, I messaging is still on the I phone, you type 
 your contact and you still can't arrow across to type your message 
 unless you touch the I phone some where else. Is this a bug or is there 
 another way of getting to the messaging field where you type the 
 content of the message?
 
 Jonathan is absolutely right about typing with the Focus blue as I 
 haven't been using mine very much but its lovely. The only problem is i 
 can't write true UEB as Apple have strange ways of writing Braille 
 which jonathan explained once in his article. Writing on the Focus blue 
 is better than writing on the Apex!
 
 Kawal.
 
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Re: The bug for Messaging on the I phone.

2014-03-13 Thread Ray Foret Jr
I shall try the first three steps.  Actually, tried the first one already.  
Sent from my Mac, the only computer with full accessibility for the blind 
built-in!

Sincerely,
The Constantly Barefooted Ray, still a very happy Mac and Iphone 5 user!

On Mar 13, 2014, at 5:10 PM, David Chittenden dchitten...@gmail.com wrote:

 As I have not experienced what you are talking about, I would suggest you 
 take the iPhone to either an Apple Store or mobile carrier store and show 
 them what is going on. That is definitely a strange situation. 
 
 The steps I would take are: First, reboot the phone by turning it off and 
 then on. Second, hard reboot the phone by holding the home and power buttons 
 for 12 seconds. Third, connect the phone to iTunes and run a repair after 
 creating a secure back-up. Fourth, take the phone to the carrier store. Note 
 that each step is the next level up.
 
 David Chittenden, MSc, MRCAA
 Email: dchitten...@gmail.com
 Mobile: +64 21 2288 288
 Sent from my iPhone
 
 On 14 Mar 2014, at 10:56, Ray Foret Jr rforet7...@comcast.net wrote:
 
 You mean move down from the home number?  Thing is, I'm double tapping on 
 the mobile number to select it but the home number gets selected instead.  
 Sent from my Mac, the only computer with full accessibility for the blind 
 built-in!
 
 Sincerely,
 The Constantly Barefooted Ray, still a very happy Mac and Iphone 5 user!
 
 On Mar 13, 2014, at 4:53 PM, David Chittenden dchitten...@gmail.com wrote:
 
 Just go further down the screen to find the other contact number. It is 
 there. 
 
 David Chittenden, MSc, MRCAA
 Email: dchitten...@gmail.com
 Mobile: +64 21 2288 288
 Sent from my iPhone
 
 On 14 Mar 2014, at 10:21, Ray Foret Jr rforet7...@comcast.net wrote:
 
 That is not the bug I am talking about.  I'm talking about not being able 
 to select a contact's mobile number when both a home number and mobile 
 number are present in a contact's information.
 
 
 Sent from my Mac, the only computer with full accessibility for the blind 
 built-in!
 
 Sincerely,
 The Constantly Barefooted Ray, still a very happy Mac and Iphone 5 user!
 
 On Mar 13, 2014, at 4:14 PM, Lisette Wesseling 
 lisettewessel...@gmail.com wrote:
 
 I just mean you can touch the screen somewhere near the edit field 
 towards the bottom of the screen. Double tapping there then lets you 
 write in the edit field.
 I just don't agree it's that unacceptable in the general scheme of 
 things. Apple fixed a lot in the latest 7.1 release, including 
 elimination of the focus issues when using the on screen keyboard. 
 
 Lisette 
 
 On 14/03/2014, at 9:53 am, Ray Foret Jr rforet7...@comcast.net wrote:
 
 What do you mean just touching the phone?  That bug is unacceptible and 
 Apple needs to know about it.
 
 
 Sent from my Mac, the only computer with full accessibility for the 
 blind built-in!
 
 Sincerely,
 The Constantly Barefooted Ray, still a very happy Mac and Iphone 5 user!
 
 On Mar 13, 2014, at 3:44 PM, Lisette Wesseling 
 lisettewessel...@gmail.com wrote:
 
 What's wrong with just touching the phone? I know it's a small bug but 
 in the scheme of things it's surely not a show stopper. Yes Apple needs 
 to know about it but to say it's unacceptable is a little strong 
 methinks.
 
 
 On 13/03/2014, at 4:48 am, Ray Foret Jr rforet7...@comcast.net wrote:
 
 A point I myself have made several times here already.  Yesterday, 
 Bill Holton and I verified this issue.  My only suggestion is that we 
 flood Apple with this matter and indicate in blunt absolutely no 
 uncertain terms that this is positively unacceptable.
 
 
 Sent from my Mac, the only computer with full accessibility for the 
 blind built-in!
 
 Sincerely,
 The Constantly Barefooted Ray, still a very happy Mac and Iphone 5 
 user!
 
 On Mar 12, 2014, at 7:46 AM, Kawal Gucukoglu kawa...@me.com wrote:
 
 Hello.
 
 The bug for Messaging, I messaging is still on the I phone, you type 
 your contact and you still can't arrow across to type your message 
 unless you touch the I phone some where else. Is this a bug or is 
 there another way of getting to the messaging field where you type 
 the content of the message?
 
 Jonathan is absolutely right about typing with the Focus blue as I 
 haven't been using mine very much but its lovely. The only problem is 
 i can't write true UEB as Apple have strange ways of writing Braille 
 which jonathan explained once in his article. Writing on the Focus 
 blue is better than writing on the Apex!
 
 Kawal.
 
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Re: The bug for Messaging on the I phone.

2014-03-13 Thread Barry Hadder
Hi,

One thing to keep in mind is that messages will refuse to choose a contact 
option that can't receive a message.
Is the mobile number an iPhone?  If not, you might check in settings whether or 
not you have sending sms turned off.
If you know that the number in question is an iPhone but the field says mobile, 
you might need to redo the contact and choose iPhone from the popup rather than 
mobile if you're just wanting to send an iMessage.

On Mar 13, 2014, at 4:56 PM, Ray Foret Jr rforet7...@comcast.net wrote:

You mean move down from the home number?  Thing is, I'm double tapping on the 
mobile number to select it but the home number gets selected instead.  
Sent from my Mac, the only computer with full accessibility for the blind 
built-in!

Sincerely,
The Constantly Barefooted Ray, still a very happy Mac and IPhone 5 user!

On Mar 13, 2014, at 4:53 PM, David Chittenden dchitten...@gmail.com wrote:

 Just go further down the screen to find the other contact number. It is 
 there. 
 
 David Chittenden, MSc, MRCAA
 Email: dchitten...@gmail.com
 Mobile: +64 21 2288 288
 Sent from my iPhone
 
 On 14 Mar 2014, at 10:21, Ray Foret Jr rforet7...@comcast.net wrote:
 
 That is not the bug I am talking about.  I'm talking about not being able to 
 select a contact's mobile number when both a home number and mobile number 
 are present in a contact's information.
 
 
 Sent from my Mac, the only computer with full accessibility for the blind 
 built-in!
 
 Sincerely,
 The Constantly Barefooted Ray, still a very happy Mac and Iphone 5 user!
 
 On Mar 13, 2014, at 4:14 PM, Lisette Wesseling lisettewessel...@gmail.com 
 wrote:
 
 I just mean you can touch the screen somewhere near the edit field towards 
 the bottom of the screen. Double tapping there then lets you write in the 
 edit field.
 I just don't agree it's that unacceptable in the general scheme of things. 
 Apple fixed a lot in the latest 7.1 release, including elimination of the 
 focus issues when using the on screen keyboard. 
 
 Lisette 
 
 On 14/03/2014, at 9:53 am, Ray Foret Jr rforet7...@comcast.net wrote:
 
 What do you mean just touching the phone?  That bug is unacceptible and 
 Apple needs to know about it.
 
 
 Sent from my Mac, the only computer with full accessibility for the blind 
 built-in!
 
 Sincerely,
 The Constantly Barefooted Ray, still a very happy Mac and Iphone 5 user!
 
 On Mar 13, 2014, at 3:44 PM, Lisette Wesseling 
 lisettewessel...@gmail.com wrote:
 
 What's wrong with just touching the phone? I know it's a small bug but in 
 the scheme of things it's surely not a show stopper. Yes Apple needs to 
 know about it but to say it's unacceptable is a little strong methinks.
 
 
 On 13/03/2014, at 4:48 am, Ray Foret Jr rforet7...@comcast.net wrote:
 
 A point I myself have made several times here already.  Yesterday, Bill 
 Holton and I verified this issue.  My only suggestion is that we flood 
 Apple with this matter and indicate in blunt absolutely no uncertain 
 terms that this is positively unacceptable.
 
 
 Sent from my Mac, the only computer with full accessibility for the 
 blind built-in!
 
 Sincerely,
 The Constantly Barefooted Ray, still a very happy Mac and Iphone 5 user!
 
 On Mar 12, 2014, at 7:46 AM, Kawal Gucukoglu kawa...@me.com wrote:
 
 Hello.
 
 The bug for Messaging, I messaging is still on the I phone, you type 
 your contact and you still can't arrow across to type your message 
 unless you touch the I phone some where else. Is this a bug or is there 
 another way of getting to the messaging field where you type the 
 content of the message?
 
 Jonathan is absolutely right about typing with the Focus blue as I 
 haven't been using mine very much but its lovely. The only problem is i 
 can't write true UEB as Apple have strange ways of writing Braille 
 which jonathan explained once in his article. Writing on the Focus blue 
 is better than writing on the Apex!
 
 Kawal.
 
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Re: The bug for Messaging on the I phone.

2014-03-13 Thread Tim Kilburn
Hi,

I've never actually experienced this issue but I was able to duplicate it.  I 
must do my texting differently or usually text people that are already in my 
previous texted recipients spot.  Reggie's method does work though as a good 
workaround.

Best.

Tim Kilburn
Fort McMurray, AB Canada

On Mar 13, 2014, at 4:21 PM, Ray Foret Jr rforet7...@comcast.net wrote:

 I shall try the first three steps.  Actually, tried the first one already.  
 Sent from my Mac, the only computer with full accessibility for the blind 
 built-in!
 
 Sincerely,
 The Constantly Barefooted Ray, still a very happy Mac and Iphone 5 user!
 
 On Mar 13, 2014, at 5:10 PM, David Chittenden dchitten...@gmail.com wrote:
 
 As I have not experienced what you are talking about, I would suggest you 
 take the iPhone to either an Apple Store or mobile carrier store and show 
 them what is going on. That is definitely a strange situation. 
 
 The steps I would take are: First, reboot the phone by turning it off and 
 then on. Second, hard reboot the phone by holding the home and power buttons 
 for 12 seconds. Third, connect the phone to iTunes and run a repair after 
 creating a secure back-up. Fourth, take the phone to the carrier store. Note 
 that each step is the next level up.
 
 David Chittenden, MSc, MRCAA
 Email: dchitten...@gmail.com
 Mobile: +64 21 2288 288
 Sent from my iPhone
 
 On 14 Mar 2014, at 10:56, Ray Foret Jr rforet7...@comcast.net wrote:
 
 You mean move down from the home number?  Thing is, I'm double tapping on 
 the mobile number to select it but the home number gets selected instead.  
 Sent from my Mac, the only computer with full accessibility for the blind 
 built-in!
 
 Sincerely,
 The Constantly Barefooted Ray, still a very happy Mac and Iphone 5 user!
 
 On Mar 13, 2014, at 4:53 PM, David Chittenden dchitten...@gmail.com 
 wrote:
 
 Just go further down the screen to find the other contact number. It is 
 there. 
 
 David Chittenden, MSc, MRCAA
 Email: dchitten...@gmail.com
 Mobile: +64 21 2288 288
 Sent from my iPhone
 
 On 14 Mar 2014, at 10:21, Ray Foret Jr rforet7...@comcast.net wrote:
 
 That is not the bug I am talking about.  I'm talking about not being able 
 to select a contact's mobile number when both a home number and mobile 
 number are present in a contact's information.
 
 
 Sent from my Mac, the only computer with full accessibility for the blind 
 built-in!
 
 Sincerely,
 The Constantly Barefooted Ray, still a very happy Mac and Iphone 5 user!
 
 On Mar 13, 2014, at 4:14 PM, Lisette Wesseling 
 lisettewessel...@gmail.com wrote:
 
 I just mean you can touch the screen somewhere near the edit field 
 towards the bottom of the screen. Double tapping there then lets you 
 write in the edit field.
 I just don't agree it's that unacceptable in the general scheme of 
 things. Apple fixed a lot in the latest 7.1 release, including 
 elimination of the focus issues when using the on screen keyboard. 
 
 Lisette 
 
 On 14/03/2014, at 9:53 am, Ray Foret Jr rforet7...@comcast.net wrote:
 
 What do you mean just touching the phone?  That bug is unacceptible and 
 Apple needs to know about it.
 
 
 Sent from my Mac, the only computer with full accessibility for the 
 blind built-in!
 
 Sincerely,
 The Constantly Barefooted Ray, still a very happy Mac and Iphone 5 user!
 
 On Mar 13, 2014, at 3:44 PM, Lisette Wesseling 
 lisettewessel...@gmail.com wrote:
 
 What's wrong with just touching the phone? I know it's a small bug but 
 in the scheme of things it's surely not a show stopper. Yes Apple 
 needs to know about it but to say it's unacceptable is a little 
 strong methinks.
 
 
 On 13/03/2014, at 4:48 am, Ray Foret Jr rforet7...@comcast.net 
 wrote:
 
 A point I myself have made several times here already.  Yesterday, 
 Bill Holton and I verified this issue.  My only suggestion is that we 
 flood Apple with this matter and indicate in blunt absolutely no 
 uncertain terms that this is positively unacceptable.
 
 
 Sent from my Mac, the only computer with full accessibility for the 
 blind built-in!
 
 Sincerely,
 The Constantly Barefooted Ray, still a very happy Mac and Iphone 5 
 user!
 
 On Mar 12, 2014, at 7:46 AM, Kawal Gucukoglu kawa...@me.com wrote:
 
 Hello.
 
 The bug for Messaging, I messaging is still on the I phone, you type 
 your contact and you still can't arrow across to type your message 
 unless you touch the I phone some where else. Is this a bug or is 
 there another way of getting to the messaging field where you type 
 the content of the message?
 
 Jonathan is absolutely right about typing with the Focus blue as I 
 haven't been using mine very much but its lovely. The only problem 
 is i can't write true UEB as Apple have strange ways of writing 
 Braille which jonathan explained once in his article. Writing on the 
 Focus blue is better than writing on the Apex!
 
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Re: The bug for Messaging on the I phone.

2014-03-13 Thread Regina Alvarado
David, I use mbraille so not a problem for me, but I tried putting in the cell 
number from contacts and it went back to the screen to start typing my text. 
When I flicked to the left I found her home number instead of the cell number I 
double tapped on. I looked around the screen, and there were no other numbers. 
Is it supposed to be under the first phone number like an email or can you tell 
me where it is, please? I just do not find it. Thanks.


reggie and Allegra

On Mar 13, 2014, at 5:53 PM, David Chittenden dchitten...@gmail.com wrote:

Just go further down the screen to find the other contact number. It is there. 

David Chittenden, MSc, MRCAA
Email: dchitten...@gmail.com
Mobile: +64 21 2288 288
Sent from my iPhone

 On 14 Mar 2014, at 10:21, Ray Foret Jr rforet7...@comcast.net wrote:
 
 That is not the bug I am talking about.  I'm talking about not being able to 
 select a contact's mobile number when both a home number and mobile number 
 are present in a contact's information.
 
 
 Sent from my Mac, the only computer with full accessibility for the blind 
 built-in!
 
 Sincerely,
 The Constantly Barefooted Ray, still a very happy Mac and Iphone 5 user!
 
 On Mar 13, 2014, at 4:14 PM, Lisette Wesseling lisettewessel...@gmail.com 
 wrote:
 
 I just mean you can touch the screen somewhere near the edit field towards 
 the bottom of the screen. Double tapping there then lets you write in the 
 edit field.
 I just don't agree it's that unacceptable in the general scheme of things. 
 Apple fixed a lot in the latest 7.1 release, including elimination of the 
 focus issues when using the on screen keyboard. 
 
 Lisette 
 
 On 14/03/2014, at 9:53 am, Ray Foret Jr rforet7...@comcast.net wrote:
 
 What do you mean just touching the phone?  That bug is unacceptible and 
 Apple needs to know about it.
 
 
 Sent from my Mac, the only computer with full accessibility for the blind 
 built-in!
 
 Sincerely,
 The Constantly Barefooted Ray, still a very happy Mac and Iphone 5 user!
 
 On Mar 13, 2014, at 3:44 PM, Lisette Wesseling 
 lisettewessel...@gmail.com wrote:
 
 What's wrong with just touching the phone? I know it's a small bug but in 
 the scheme of things it's surely not a show stopper. Yes Apple needs to 
 know about it but to say it's unacceptable is a little strong methinks.
 
 
 On 13/03/2014, at 4:48 am, Ray Foret Jr rforet7...@comcast.net wrote:
 
 A point I myself have made several times here already.  Yesterday, Bill 
 Holton and I verified this issue.  My only suggestion is that we flood 
 Apple with this matter and indicate in blunt absolutely no uncertain 
 terms that this is positively unacceptable.
 
 
 Sent from my Mac, the only computer with full accessibility for the blind 
 built-in!
 
 Sincerely,
 The Constantly Barefooted Ray, still a very happy Mac and Iphone 5 user!
 
 On Mar 12, 2014, at 7:46 AM, Kawal Gucukoglu kawa...@me.com wrote:
 
 Hello.
 
 The bug for Messaging, I messaging is still on the I phone, you type 
 your contact and you still can't arrow across to type your message 
 unless you touch the I phone some where else. Is this a bug or is there 
 another way of getting to the messaging field where you type the content 
 of the message?
 
 Jonathan is absolutely right about typing with the Focus blue as I 
 haven't been using mine very much but its lovely. The only problem is i 
 can't write true UEB as Apple have strange ways of writing Braille which 
 jonathan explained once in his article. Writing on the Focus blue is 
 better than writing on the Apex!
 
 Kawal.
 
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Re: The bug for Messaging on the I phone.

2014-03-13 Thread Jamie Pauls
I agree totally. The focus jumping issue was what I would've considered nearly 
unacceptable. Really glad they got that one squashed.

Sent from my iPhone

 On Mar 13, 2014, at 4:14 PM, Lisette Wesseling lisettewessel...@gmail.com 
 wrote:
 
 I just mean you can touch the screen somewhere near the edit field towards 
 the bottom of the screen. Double tapping there then lets you write in the 
 edit field.
 I just don't agree it's that unacceptable in the general scheme of things. 
 Apple fixed a lot in the latest 7.1 release, including elimination of the 
 focus issues when using the on screen keyboard. 
 
 Lisette 
 
 On 14/03/2014, at 9:53 am, Ray Foret Jr rforet7...@comcast.net wrote:
 
 What do you mean just touching the phone?  That bug is unacceptible and 
 Apple needs to know about it.
 
 
 Sent from my Mac, the only computer with full accessibility for the blind 
 built-in!
 
 Sincerely,
 The Constantly Barefooted Ray, still a very happy Mac and Iphone 5 user!
 
 On Mar 13, 2014, at 3:44 PM, Lisette Wesseling lisettewessel...@gmail.com 
 wrote:
 
 What's wrong with just touching the phone? I know it's a small bug but in 
 the scheme of things it's surely not a show stopper. Yes Apple needs to 
 know about it but to say it's unacceptable is a little strong methinks.
 
 
 On 13/03/2014, at 4:48 am, Ray Foret Jr rforet7...@comcast.net wrote:
 
 A point I myself have made several times here already.  Yesterday, Bill 
 Holton and I verified this issue.  My only suggestion is that we flood 
 Apple with this matter and indicate in blunt absolutely no uncertain terms 
 that this is positively unacceptable.
 
 
 Sent from my Mac, the only computer with full accessibility for the blind 
 built-in!
 
 Sincerely,
 The Constantly Barefooted Ray, still a very happy Mac and Iphone 5 user!
 
 On Mar 12, 2014, at 7:46 AM, Kawal Gucukoglu kawa...@me.com wrote:
 
 Hello.
 
 The bug for Messaging, I messaging is still on the I phone, you type your 
 contact and you still can't arrow across to type your message unless you 
 touch the I phone some where else. Is this a bug or is there another way 
 of getting to the messaging field where you type the content of the 
 message?
 
 Jonathan is absolutely right about typing with the Focus blue as I 
 haven't been using mine very much but its lovely. The only problem is i 
 can't write true UEB as Apple have strange ways of writing Braille which 
 jonathan explained once in his article. Writing on the Focus blue is 
 better than writing on the Apex!
 
 Kawal.
 
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copying a url to the clipboard

2014-03-13 Thread Jenine Stanley
I know that in Windows you can fairly easily copy a url to the clipboard by 
using alt-d to get to the address bar then control-c to copy. 

Is there a way to do this in Safari? With Voice over? 

I do this often to share web sites with people and was just wondering.
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Re: The bug for Messaging on the I phone.

2014-03-13 Thread Jamie Pauls
When entering numbers into a contact, does anyone know why one of the labels is 
radio? That one has puzzled me for a while. 

Sent from my iPhone

 On Mar 13, 2014, at 5:23 PM, Barry Hadder bhad...@gmail.com wrote:
 
 Hi,
 
 One thing to keep in mind is that messages will refuse to choose a contact 
 option that can't receive a message.
 Is the mobile number an iPhone?  If not, you might check in settings whether 
 or not you have sending sms turned off.
 If you know that the number in question is an iPhone but the field says 
 mobile, you might need to redo the contact and choose iPhone from the popup 
 rather than mobile if you're just wanting to send an iMessage.
 
 On Mar 13, 2014, at 4:56 PM, Ray Foret Jr rforet7...@comcast.net wrote:
 
 You mean move down from the home number?  Thing is, I'm double tapping on the 
 mobile number to select it but the home number gets selected instead.  
 Sent from my Mac, the only computer with full accessibility for the blind 
 built-in!
 
 Sincerely,
 The Constantly Barefooted Ray, still a very happy Mac and IPhone 5 user!
 
 On Mar 13, 2014, at 4:53 PM, David Chittenden dchitten...@gmail.com wrote:
 
 Just go further down the screen to find the other contact number. It is 
 there. 
 
 David Chittenden, MSc, MRCAA
 Email: dchitten...@gmail.com
 Mobile: +64 21 2288 288
 Sent from my iPhone
 
 On 14 Mar 2014, at 10:21, Ray Foret Jr rforet7...@comcast.net wrote:
 
 That is not the bug I am talking about.  I'm talking about not being able 
 to select a contact's mobile number when both a home number and mobile 
 number are present in a contact's information.
 
 
 Sent from my Mac, the only computer with full accessibility for the blind 
 built-in!
 
 Sincerely,
 The Constantly Barefooted Ray, still a very happy Mac and Iphone 5 user!
 
 On Mar 13, 2014, at 4:14 PM, Lisette Wesseling 
 lisettewessel...@gmail.com wrote:
 
 I just mean you can touch the screen somewhere near the edit field towards 
 the bottom of the screen. Double tapping there then lets you write in the 
 edit field.
 I just don't agree it's that unacceptable in the general scheme of things. 
 Apple fixed a lot in the latest 7.1 release, including elimination of the 
 focus issues when using the on screen keyboard. 
 
 Lisette 
 
 On 14/03/2014, at 9:53 am, Ray Foret Jr rforet7...@comcast.net wrote:
 
 What do you mean just touching the phone?  That bug is unacceptible and 
 Apple needs to know about it.
 
 
 Sent from my Mac, the only computer with full accessibility for the blind 
 built-in!
 
 Sincerely,
 The Constantly Barefooted Ray, still a very happy Mac and Iphone 5 user!
 
 On Mar 13, 2014, at 3:44 PM, Lisette Wesseling 
 lisettewessel...@gmail.com wrote:
 
 What's wrong with just touching the phone? I know it's a small bug but 
 in the scheme of things it's surely not a show stopper. Yes Apple needs 
 to know about it but to say it's unacceptable is a little strong 
 methinks.
 
 
 On 13/03/2014, at 4:48 am, Ray Foret Jr rforet7...@comcast.net wrote:
 
 A point I myself have made several times here already.  Yesterday, Bill 
 Holton and I verified this issue.  My only suggestion is that we flood 
 Apple with this matter and indicate in blunt absolutely no uncertain 
 terms that this is positively unacceptable.
 
 
 Sent from my Mac, the only computer with full accessibility for the 
 blind built-in!
 
 Sincerely,
 The Constantly Barefooted Ray, still a very happy Mac and Iphone 5 user!
 
 On Mar 12, 2014, at 7:46 AM, Kawal Gucukoglu kawa...@me.com wrote:
 
 Hello.
 
 The bug for Messaging, I messaging is still on the I phone, you type 
 your contact and you still can't arrow across to type your message 
 unless you touch the I phone some where else. Is this a bug or is 
 there another way of getting to the messaging field where you type the 
 content of the message?
 
 Jonathan is absolutely right about typing with the Focus blue as I 
 haven't been using mine very much but its lovely. The only problem is 
 i can't write true UEB as Apple have strange ways of writing Braille 
 which jonathan explained once in his article. Writing on the Focus 
 blue is better than writing on the Apex!
 
 Kawal.
 
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Re: The bug for Messaging on the I phone.

2014-03-13 Thread Barry Hadder
Hello again,

I'm taking everything I suggested back.
What fooled me was that I had three options: an iPhone, a home phone, and an 
email.  Messages would allow me to select the iPhone an email, but not the home 
phone.
I can confirm that this bug exists after removing the iPhone number.  I think 
that there are many work-arounds for this and it isn't worth losing any sleep 
over.  What I find most bothersome is the fact that it is very hard to nail 
down bugs with Apple software due to very strange behavior.
I personally find the iBooks situation much more serious.

On Mar 13, 2014, at 5:23 PM, Barry Hadder bhad...@gmail.com wrote:

Hi,

One thing to keep in mind is that messages will refuse to choose a contact 
option that can't receive a message.
Is the mobile number an iPhone?  If not, you might check in settings whether or 
not you have sending sms turned off.
If you know that the number in question is an iPhone but the field says mobile, 
you might need to redo the contact and choose iPhone from the popup rather than 
mobile if you're just wanting to send an iMessage.

On Mar 13, 2014, at 4:56 PM, Ray Foret Jr rforet7...@comcast.net wrote:

You mean move down from the home number?  Thing is, I'm double tapping on the 
mobile number to select it but the home number gets selected instead.  
Sent from my Mac, the only computer with full accessibility for the blind 
built-in!

Sincerely,
The Constantly Barefooted Ray, still a very happy Mac and IPhone 5 user!

On Mar 13, 2014, at 4:53 PM, David Chittenden dchitten...@gmail.com wrote:

 Just go further down the screen to find the other contact number. It is 
 there. 
 
 David Chittenden, MSc, MRCAA
 Email: dchitten...@gmail.com
 Mobile: +64 21 2288 288
 Sent from my iPhone
 
 On 14 Mar 2014, at 10:21, Ray Foret Jr rforet7...@comcast.net wrote:
 
 That is not the bug I am talking about.  I'm talking about not being able to 
 select a contact's mobile number when both a home number and mobile number 
 are present in a contact's information.
 
 
 Sent from my Mac, the only computer with full accessibility for the blind 
 built-in!
 
 Sincerely,
 The Constantly Barefooted Ray, still a very happy Mac and Iphone 5 user!
 
 On Mar 13, 2014, at 4:14 PM, Lisette Wesseling lisettewessel...@gmail.com 
 wrote:
 
 I just mean you can touch the screen somewhere near the edit field towards 
 the bottom of the screen. Double tapping there then lets you write in the 
 edit field.
 I just don't agree it's that unacceptable in the general scheme of things. 
 Apple fixed a lot in the latest 7.1 release, including elimination of the 
 focus issues when using the on screen keyboard. 
 
 Lisette 
 
 On 14/03/2014, at 9:53 am, Ray Foret Jr rforet7...@comcast.net wrote:
 
 What do you mean just touching the phone?  That bug is unacceptible and 
 Apple needs to know about it.
 
 
 Sent from my Mac, the only computer with full accessibility for the blind 
 built-in!
 
 Sincerely,
 The Constantly Barefooted Ray, still a very happy Mac and Iphone 5 user!
 
 On Mar 13, 2014, at 3:44 PM, Lisette Wesseling 
 lisettewessel...@gmail.com wrote:
 
 What's wrong with just touching the phone? I know it's a small bug but in 
 the scheme of things it's surely not a show stopper. Yes Apple needs to 
 know about it but to say it's unacceptable is a little strong methinks.
 
 
 On 13/03/2014, at 4:48 am, Ray Foret Jr rforet7...@comcast.net wrote:
 
 A point I myself have made several times here already.  Yesterday, Bill 
 Holton and I verified this issue.  My only suggestion is that we flood 
 Apple with this matter and indicate in blunt absolutely no uncertain 
 terms that this is positively unacceptable.
 
 
 Sent from my Mac, the only computer with full accessibility for the 
 blind built-in!
 
 Sincerely,
 The Constantly Barefooted Ray, still a very happy Mac and Iphone 5 user!
 
 On Mar 12, 2014, at 7:46 AM, Kawal Gucukoglu kawa...@me.com wrote:
 
 Hello.
 
 The bug for Messaging, I messaging is still on the I phone, you type 
 your contact and you still can't arrow across to type your message 
 unless you touch the I phone some where else. Is this a bug or is there 
 another way of getting to the messaging field where you type the 
 content of the message?
 
 Jonathan is absolutely right about typing with the Focus blue as I 
 haven't been using mine very much but its lovely. The only problem is i 
 can't write true UEB as Apple have strange ways of writing Braille 
 which jonathan explained once in his article. Writing on the Focus blue 
 is better than writing on the Apex!
 
 Kawal.
 
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Re: copying a url to the clipboard

2014-03-13 Thread Cheryl Homiak
Do cmd-l to bring up the address bar and it should say the url and contents 
selected. Do cmd-c to copy and then paste it where you want it by doing cmd-v.

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 May the words of my mouth
 and the meditation of my heart
 be acceptable to You, Lord,
 my rock and my Redeemer.
 (Psalm 19:14 HCSB)
 
 


 On Mar 13, 2014, at 6:28 PM, Jenine Stanley dragonwalke...@gmail.com wrote:
 
 I know that in Windows you can fairly easily copy a url to the clipboard by 
 using alt-d to get to the address bar then control-c to copy. 
 
 Is there a way to do this in Safari? With Voice over? 
 
 I do this often to share web sites with people and was just wondering.
 Jenine Stanley
 dragonwalke...@gmail.com
 
 
 
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Re: The bug for Messaging on the I phone.

2014-03-13 Thread Kawal Gucukoglu
I have no problems either.

 On 13 Mar 2014, at 09:56 pm, David Chittenden dchitten...@gmail.com wrote:
 
 No, I am not experiencing that. When I select the mobile number, the mobile 
 number appears in the to field. 
 
 David Chittenden, MSc, MRCAA
 Email: dchitten...@gmail.com
 Mobile: +64 21 2288 288
 Sent from my iPhone
 
 On 14 Mar 2014, at 10:36, Ray Foret Jr rforet7...@comcast.net wrote:
 
 Let me try to explain a little more exactly what the problem really is and 
 why it's a big deal to me.
 
 1.  Go in to message app.
 
 2.  Double tap compose.
 
 3.  Now, double tap to choose a contact to add.
 
 4.  Now, choose a contact where there is both a home and mobile number and 
 the home number is listed first.
 
 5.  Now, double tap on the mobile number.
 
 6.  Now, examine the to field.  You will notice that the home number is 
 selected.
 
   This is the case whether you do this inside message or the contacts app.  
 See what the problem is?
 
 
 Sent from my Mac, the only computer with full accessibility for the blind 
 built-in!
 
 Sincerely,
 The Constantly Barefooted Ray, still a very happy Mac and Iphone 5 user!
 
 On Mar 13, 2014, at 4:24 PM, Kawal Gucukoglu kawa...@me.com wrote:
 
 Do you mean on the iMac or the iPhone? As I have no problem with selecting 
 contacts on the iPhone.
 
 On 13 Mar 2014, at 09:21 pm, Ray Foret Jr rforet7...@comcast.net wrote:
 
 That is not the bug I am talking about.  I'm talking about not being able 
 to select a contact's mobile number when both a home number and mobile 
 number are present in a contact's information.
 
 
 Sent from my Mac, the only computer with full accessibility for the blind 
 built-in!
 
 Sincerely,
 The Constantly Barefooted Ray, still a very happy Mac and Iphone 5 user!
 
 On Mar 13, 2014, at 4:14 PM, Lisette Wesseling 
 lisettewessel...@gmail.com wrote:
 
 I just mean you can touch the screen somewhere near the edit field 
 towards the bottom of the screen. Double tapping there then lets you 
 write in the edit field.
 I just don't agree it's that unacceptable in the general scheme of 
 things. Apple fixed a lot in the latest 7.1 release, including 
 elimination of the focus issues when using the on screen keyboard. 
 
 Lisette 
 
 On 14/03/2014, at 9:53 am, Ray Foret Jr rforet7...@comcast.net wrote:
 
 What do you mean just touching the phone?  That bug is unacceptible and 
 Apple needs to know about it.
 
 
 Sent from my Mac, the only computer with full accessibility for the 
 blind built-in!
 
 Sincerely,
 The Constantly Barefooted Ray, still a very happy Mac and Iphone 5 user!
 
 On Mar 13, 2014, at 3:44 PM, Lisette Wesseling 
 lisettewessel...@gmail.com wrote:
 
 What's wrong with just touching the phone? I know it's a small bug but 
 in the scheme of things it's surely not a show stopper. Yes Apple needs 
 to know about it but to say it's unacceptable is a little strong 
 methinks.
 
 
 On 13/03/2014, at 4:48 am, Ray Foret Jr rforet7...@comcast.net wrote:
 
 A point I myself have made several times here already.  Yesterday, 
 Bill Holton and I verified this issue.  My only suggestion is that we 
 flood Apple with this matter and indicate in blunt absolutely no 
 uncertain terms that this is positively unacceptable.
 
 
 Sent from my Mac, the only computer with full accessibility for the 
 blind built-in!
 
 Sincerely,
 The Constantly Barefooted Ray, still a very happy Mac and Iphone 5 
 user!
 
 On Mar 12, 2014, at 7:46 AM, Kawal Gucukoglu kawa...@me.com wrote:
 
 Hello.
 
 The bug for Messaging, I messaging is still on the I phone, you type 
 your contact and you still can't arrow across to type your message 
 unless you touch the I phone some where else. Is this a bug or is 
 there another way of getting to the messaging field where you type 
 the content of the message?
 
 Jonathan is absolutely right about typing with the Focus blue as I 
 haven't been using mine very much but its lovely. The only problem is 
 i can't write true UEB as Apple have strange ways of writing Braille 
 which jonathan explained once in his article. Writing on the Focus 
 blue is better than writing on the Apex!
 
 Kawal.
 
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iBooks, WasRe: The bug for Messaging on the I phone.

2014-03-13 Thread Teresa Cochran
Which iBooks situation are you referring to? I haven't had trouble with ibooks 
on the iPod thus far, other than the long-standing breakage of whiz wheels on 
the focus 40.

Teresa

Teresa Cochran
batsfly...@me.com
Facebook

On Mar 13, 2014, at 4:44 PM, Barry Hadder bhad...@gmail.com wrote:

 Hello again,
 
 I'm taking everything I suggested back.
 What fooled me was that I had three options: an iPhone, a home phone, and an 
 email.  Messages would allow me to select the iPhone an email, but not the 
 home phone.
 I can confirm that this bug exists after removing the iPhone number.  I think 
 that there are many work-arounds for this and it isn't worth losing any sleep 
 over.  What I find most bothersome is the fact that it is very hard to nail 
 down bugs with Apple software due to very strange behavior.
 I personally find the iBooks situation much more serious.

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Re: iBooks, WasRe: The bug for Messaging on the I phone.

2014-03-13 Thread Barry Hadder
Hi Teresa,

I'm talking about iBooks on the Mac.


On Mar 13, 2014, at 7:14 PM, Teresa Cochran batsfly...@me.com wrote:

Which iBooks situation are you referring to? I haven't had trouble with ibooks 
on the iPod thus far, other than the long-standing breakage of whiz wheels on 
the focus 40.

Teresa

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On Mar 13, 2014, at 4:44 PM, Barry Hadder bhad...@gmail.com wrote:

 Hello again,
 
 I'm taking everything I suggested back.
 What fooled me was that I had three options: an iPhone, a home phone, and an 
 email.  Messages would allow me to select the iPhone an email, but not the 
 home phone.
 I can confirm that this bug exists after removing the iPhone number.  I think 
 that there are many work-arounds for this and it isn't worth losing any sleep 
 over.  What I find most bothersome is the fact that it is very hard to nail 
 down bugs with Apple software due to very strange behavior.
 I personally find the iBooks situation much more serious.

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Re: copying a url to the clipboard

2014-03-13 Thread Jenine Stanley
Giant thanks Cheryl! that's exactly what I was looking for. 
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On Mar 13, 2014, at 7:56 PM, Cheryl Homiak cah4...@icloud.com wrote:

 Do cmd-l to bring up the address bar and it should say the url and contents 
 selected. Do cmd-c to copy and then paste it where you want it by doing 
 cmd-v.
 
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 I know that in Windows you can fairly easily copy a url to the clipboard by 
 using alt-d to get to the address bar then control-c to copy. 
 
 Is there a way to do this in Safari? With Voice over? 
 
 I do this often to share web sites with people and was just wondering.
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Re: can't connect my bluetooth devices to my mac anymore using mavericks.

2014-03-13 Thread Eugenia Firth
Hi there
Well I have the same problem with my new little focus 14 display. Guess what! I 
now have another open case concerning this very same thing you're talking 
about. Except, in my case everything else Parist is fine except for this little 
thing. So now maybe my problem will solve yours. I'll let you know.
Sincerely,
Gigi

Sent from my iPhone

 On Mar 13, 2014, at 4:10 PM, Jessica Moss junglebookfa...@gmail.com wrote:
 
 No not yet will give it a shot though.
 
 Sent from my iPhone
 
 On Mar 13, 2014, at 8:12 AM, isaac isaac.heb...@gmail.com wrote:
 
 Have you tried removing them then try pairing them again.
 On Mar 13, 2014, at 6:55 AM, Jessica Moss junglebookfa...@gmail.com wrote:
 
 I've just noticed sense upgrading, that my bluetooth devices are still 
 showing up, but for some reason, the connect option seems to have 
 disappeared, and the only option I have is to remove them.  Does anyone 
 know how to remedy this?
 
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Re: copying a url to the clipboard

2014-03-13 Thread Alex Hall
Alternatively:

1. Open Applescript Editor, and hit cmd-n for a new script.
2. Paste the following into the script:

tell application Safari
set currentURL to the URL of the current tab of the front window
end tell
set the clipboard to currentURL

3. Save the file as whatever you want, perhaps copy current URL to clipboard. 
It will be saved as an Applescript file (.scpt).
4. Run it however you want. It might be easiest to assign this to a keyboard or 
trackpad commander.
Enjoy!
On Mar 13, 2014, at 8:43 PM, Jenine Stanley dragonwalke...@gmail.com wrote:

 Giant thanks Cheryl! that's exactly what I was looking for. 
 Jenine Stanley
 dragonwalke...@gmail.com
 
 
 
 On Mar 13, 2014, at 7:56 PM, Cheryl Homiak cah4...@icloud.com wrote:
 
 Do cmd-l to bring up the address bar and it should say the url and contents 
 selected. Do cmd-c to copy and then paste it where you want it by doing 
 cmd-v.
 
 -- 
 Cheryl
 
 May the words of my mouth
 and the meditation of my heart
 be acceptable to You, Lord,
 my rock and my Redeemer.
 (Psalm 19:14 HCSB)
 
 
 
 
 On Mar 13, 2014, at 6:28 PM, Jenine Stanley dragonwalke...@gmail.com wrote:
 
 I know that in Windows you can fairly easily copy a url to the clipboard by 
 using alt-d to get to the address bar then control-c to copy. 
 
 Is there a way to do this in Safari? With Voice over? 
 
 I do this often to share web sites with people and was just wondering.
 Jenine Stanley
 dragonwalke...@gmail.com
 
 
 
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Re: copying a url to the clipboard

2014-03-13 Thread Jenine Stanley
Interesting. Thanks. 

I'd like to learn more about Apple scripts. Can you or anyone else provide some 
resources? 
Jenine Stanley
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On Mar 13, 2014, at 9:06 PM, Alex Hall mehg...@icloud.com wrote:

 Alternatively:
 
 1. Open Applescript Editor, and hit cmd-n for a new script.
 2. Paste the following into the script:
 
 tell application Safari
   set currentURL to the URL of the current tab of the front window
 end tell
 set the clipboard to currentURL
 
 3. Save the file as whatever you want, perhaps copy current URL to 
 clipboard. It will be saved as an Applescript file (.scpt).
 4. Run it however you want. It might be easiest to assign this to a keyboard 
 or trackpad commander.
 Enjoy!
 On Mar 13, 2014, at 8:43 PM, Jenine Stanley dragonwalke...@gmail.com wrote:
 
 Giant thanks Cheryl! that's exactly what I was looking for. 
 Jenine Stanley
 dragonwalke...@gmail.com
 
 
 
 On Mar 13, 2014, at 7:56 PM, Cheryl Homiak cah4...@icloud.com wrote:
 
 Do cmd-l to bring up the address bar and it should say the url and 
 contents selected. Do cmd-c to copy and then paste it where you want it 
 by doing cmd-v.
 
 -- 
 Cheryl
 
 May the words of my mouth
 and the meditation of my heart
 be acceptable to You, Lord,
 my rock and my Redeemer.
 (Psalm 19:14 HCSB)
 
 
 
 
 On Mar 13, 2014, at 6:28 PM, Jenine Stanley dragonwalke...@gmail.com 
 wrote:
 
 I know that in Windows you can fairly easily copy a url to the clipboard 
 by using alt-d to get to the address bar then control-c to copy. 
 
 Is there a way to do this in Safari? With Voice over? 
 
 I do this often to share web sites with people and was just wondering.
 Jenine Stanley
 dragonwalke...@gmail.com
 
 
 
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iWork help

2014-03-13 Thread Matt Dierckens
Hi all.
I was wondering if I could get some assistance off list with iWork 13? Thanks.

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Re: copying a url to the clipboard

2014-03-13 Thread Alex Hall
I googled everything I know. smile I don't mean to sound like I'm brushing 
you off, but Google really is your best bet. Search for getting started with 
Applescript to, well, get started. Apple has some docs on it, but tutorials 
from non-Apple sources are often better, I think.
On Mar 13, 2014, at 9:21 PM, Jenine Stanley dragonwalke...@gmail.com wrote:

 Interesting. Thanks. 
 
 I'd like to learn more about Apple scripts. Can you or anyone else provide 
 some resources? 
 Jenine Stanley
 dragonwalke...@gmail.com
 
 
 
 On Mar 13, 2014, at 9:06 PM, Alex Hall mehg...@icloud.com wrote:
 
 Alternatively:
 
 1. Open Applescript Editor, and hit cmd-n for a new script.
 2. Paste the following into the script:
 
 tell application Safari
  set currentURL to the URL of the current tab of the front window
 end tell
 set the clipboard to currentURL
 
 3. Save the file as whatever you want, perhaps copy current URL to 
 clipboard. It will be saved as an Applescript file (.scpt).
 4. Run it however you want. It might be easiest to assign this to a keyboard 
 or trackpad commander.
 Enjoy!
 On Mar 13, 2014, at 8:43 PM, Jenine Stanley dragonwalke...@gmail.com wrote:
 
 Giant thanks Cheryl! that's exactly what I was looking for. 
 Jenine Stanley
 dragonwalke...@gmail.com
 
 
 
 On Mar 13, 2014, at 7:56 PM, Cheryl Homiak cah4...@icloud.com wrote:
 
 Do cmd-l to bring up the address bar and it should say the url and 
 contents selected. Do cmd-c to copy and then paste it where you want it 
 by doing cmd-v.
 
 -- 
 Cheryl
 
 May the words of my mouth
 and the meditation of my heart
 be acceptable to You, Lord,
 my rock and my Redeemer.
 (Psalm 19:14 HCSB)
 
 
 
 
 On Mar 13, 2014, at 6:28 PM, Jenine Stanley dragonwalke...@gmail.com 
 wrote:
 
 I know that in Windows you can fairly easily copy a url to the clipboard 
 by using alt-d to get to the address bar then control-c to copy. 
 
 Is there a way to do this in Safari? With Voice over? 
 
 I do this often to share web sites with people and was just wondering.
 Jenine Stanley
 dragonwalke...@gmail.com
 
 
 
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Re: copying a url to the clipboard

2014-03-13 Thread Jenine Stanley
Actually Alex, that's good advice and good to know where you got your info. I 
used to love writing macros back in the day and need some mental challenge 
about now. :)
Jenine Stanley
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On Mar 13, 2014, at 9:27 PM, Alex Hall mehg...@icloud.com wrote:

 I googled everything I know. smile I don't mean to sound like I'm brushing 
 you off, but Google really is your best bet. Search for getting started with 
 Applescript to, well, get started. Apple has some docs on it, but tutorials 
 from non-Apple sources are often better, I think.
 On Mar 13, 2014, at 9:21 PM, Jenine Stanley dragonwalke...@gmail.com wrote:
 
 Interesting. Thanks. 
 
 I'd like to learn more about Apple scripts. Can you or anyone else provide 
 some resources? 
 Jenine Stanley
 dragonwalke...@gmail.com
 
 
 
 On Mar 13, 2014, at 9:06 PM, Alex Hall mehg...@icloud.com wrote:
 
 Alternatively:
 
 1. Open Applescript Editor, and hit cmd-n for a new script.
 2. Paste the following into the script:
 
 tell application Safari
 set currentURL to the URL of the current tab of the front window
 end tell
 set the clipboard to currentURL
 
 3. Save the file as whatever you want, perhaps copy current URL to 
 clipboard. It will be saved as an Applescript file (.scpt).
 4. Run it however you want. It might be easiest to assign this to a 
 keyboard or trackpad commander.
 Enjoy!
 On Mar 13, 2014, at 8:43 PM, Jenine Stanley dragonwalke...@gmail.com 
 wrote:
 
 Giant thanks Cheryl! that's exactly what I was looking for. 
 Jenine Stanley
 dragonwalke...@gmail.com
 
 
 
 On Mar 13, 2014, at 7:56 PM, Cheryl Homiak cah4...@icloud.com wrote:
 
 Do cmd-l to bring up the address bar and it should say the url and 
 contents selected. Do cmd-c to copy and then paste it where you want it 
 by doing cmd-v.
 
 -- 
 Cheryl
 
 May the words of my mouth
 and the meditation of my heart
 be acceptable to You, Lord,
 my rock and my Redeemer.
 (Psalm 19:14 HCSB)
 
 
 
 
 On Mar 13, 2014, at 6:28 PM, Jenine Stanley dragonwalke...@gmail.com 
 wrote:
 
 I know that in Windows you can fairly easily copy a url to the clipboard 
 by using alt-d to get to the address bar then control-c to copy. 
 
 Is there a way to do this in Safari? With Voice over? 
 
 I do this often to share web sites with people and was just wondering.
 Jenine Stanley
 dragonwalke...@gmail.com
 
 
 
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Re: The bug for Messaging on the I phone.

2014-03-13 Thread Danny Noonan
It's not funny but rather one of the advantages we have over the sighted with 
Bluetooth. It may not last but then again a trend to have a device docked and 
use peripherals might mean our and the sighted wants may  match up. 


Danny. 
Sent from my iPhone

 On 14 Mar 2014, at 8:55 am, David Chittenden dchitten...@gmail.com wrote:
 
 The funny thing about your response is, sighted people always pull their 
 phones out of their bags or pockets in order to write a reply. 
 
 David Chittenden, MSc, MRCAA
 Email: dchitten...@gmail.com
 Mobile: +64 21 2288 288
 Sent from my iPhone
 
 On 14 Mar 2014, at 10:28, Danny Noonan da...@familynoonan.net wrote:
 
 For most people this is a perfectly reasonable solution until the minor bug 
 is addressed. For a minority with different usage needs or a lower 
 tollerence to imperfection however this is of high importance. If a keyboard 
 or Braille display  is used a distance from the I device for example moving 
 to the device every time may be highly irritating and if there is a mobility 
 issue through disability a broken foot etc etc this little bug gains a lot 
 more importance. 
 
 Regardless write to apple and help it get fixed for the good of us all as a 
 bug is a bug is a bug and full functionalety via brl display or qwerty is 
 the aim and intent. I don't want to have to pull my phone out of my bag on 
 the train to write a message. Is it the end of the world, no but it is a 
 pain. Smile. 
 
 
 Danny. 
 Sent from my iPhone
 
 On 14 Mar 2014, at 8:14 am, Lisette Wesseling lisettewessel...@gmail.com 
 wrote:
 
 I just mean you can touch the screen somewhere near the edit field towards 
 the bottom of the screen. Double tapping there then lets you write in the 
 edit field.
 I just don't agree it's that unacceptable in the general scheme of things. 
 Apple fixed a lot in the latest 7.1 release, including elimination of the 
 focus issues when using the on screen keyboard. 
 
 Lisette 
 
 On 14/03/2014, at 9:53 am, Ray Foret Jr rforet7...@comcast.net wrote:
 
 What do you mean just touching the phone?  That bug is unacceptible and 
 Apple needs to know about it.
 
 
 Sent from my Mac, the only computer with full accessibility for the blind 
 built-in!
 
 Sincerely,
 The Constantly Barefooted Ray, still a very happy Mac and Iphone 5 user!
 
 On Mar 13, 2014, at 3:44 PM, Lisette Wesseling 
 lisettewessel...@gmail.com wrote:
 
 What's wrong with just touching the phone? I know it's a small bug but in 
 the scheme of things it's surely not a show stopper. Yes Apple needs to 
 know about it but to say it's unacceptable is a little strong methinks.
 
 
 On 13/03/2014, at 4:48 am, Ray Foret Jr rforet7...@comcast.net wrote:
 
 A point I myself have made several times here already.  Yesterday, Bill 
 Holton and I verified this issue.  My only suggestion is that we flood 
 Apple with this matter and indicate in blunt absolutely no uncertain 
 terms that this is positively unacceptable.
 
 
 Sent from my Mac, the only computer with full accessibility for the 
 blind built-in!
 
 Sincerely,
 The Constantly Barefooted Ray, still a very happy Mac and Iphone 5 user!
 
 On Mar 12, 2014, at 7:46 AM, Kawal Gucukoglu kawa...@me.com wrote:
 
 Hello.
 
 The bug for Messaging, I messaging is still on the I phone, you type 
 your contact and you still can't arrow across to type your message 
 unless you touch the I phone some where else. Is this a bug or is there 
 another way of getting to the messaging field where you type the 
 content of the message?
 
 Jonathan is absolutely right about typing with the Focus blue as I 
 haven't been using mine very much but its lovely. The only problem is i 
 can't write true UEB as Apple have strange ways of writing Braille 
 which jonathan explained once in his article. Writing on the Focus blue 
 is better than writing on the Apex!
 
 Kawal.
 
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Re: The bug for Messaging on the I phone.

2014-03-13 Thread Danny Noonan
And 5 do a clean install and rather than use a possibly corrupted backup synch 
contacts straight into the clean device. A big unpleasant job but some times 
required. 


Danny. 
Sent from my iPhone

 On 14 Mar 2014, at 9:10 am, David Chittenden dchitten...@gmail.com wrote:
 
 As I have not experienced what you are talking about, I would suggest you 
 take the iPhone to either an Apple Store or mobile carrier store and show 
 them what is going on. That is definitely a strange situation. 
 
 The steps I would take are: First, reboot the phone by turning it off and 
 then on. Second, hard reboot the phone by holding the home and power buttons 
 for 12 seconds. Third, connect the phone to iTunes and run a repair after 
 creating a secure back-up. Fourth, take the phone to the carrier store. Note 
 that each step is the next level up.
 
 David Chittenden, MSc, MRCAA
 Email: dchitten...@gmail.com
 Mobile: +64 21 2288 288
 Sent from my iPhone
 
 On 14 Mar 2014, at 10:56, Ray Foret Jr rforet7...@comcast.net wrote:
 
 You mean move down from the home number?  Thing is, I'm double tapping on 
 the mobile number to select it but the home number gets selected instead.  
 Sent from my Mac, the only computer with full accessibility for the blind 
 built-in!
 
 Sincerely,
 The Constantly Barefooted Ray, still a very happy Mac and Iphone 5 user!
 
 On Mar 13, 2014, at 4:53 PM, David Chittenden dchitten...@gmail.com wrote:
 
 Just go further down the screen to find the other contact number. It is 
 there. 
 
 David Chittenden, MSc, MRCAA
 Email: dchitten...@gmail.com
 Mobile: +64 21 2288 288
 Sent from my iPhone
 
 On 14 Mar 2014, at 10:21, Ray Foret Jr rforet7...@comcast.net wrote:
 
 That is not the bug I am talking about.  I'm talking about not being able 
 to select a contact's mobile number when both a home number and mobile 
 number are present in a contact's information.
 
 
 Sent from my Mac, the only computer with full accessibility for the blind 
 built-in!
 
 Sincerely,
 The Constantly Barefooted Ray, still a very happy Mac and Iphone 5 user!
 
 On Mar 13, 2014, at 4:14 PM, Lisette Wesseling 
 lisettewessel...@gmail.com wrote:
 
 I just mean you can touch the screen somewhere near the edit field 
 towards the bottom of the screen. Double tapping there then lets you 
 write in the edit field.
 I just don't agree it's that unacceptable in the general scheme of 
 things. Apple fixed a lot in the latest 7.1 release, including 
 elimination of the focus issues when using the on screen keyboard. 
 
 Lisette 
 
 On 14/03/2014, at 9:53 am, Ray Foret Jr rforet7...@comcast.net wrote:
 
 What do you mean just touching the phone?  That bug is unacceptible and 
 Apple needs to know about it.
 
 
 Sent from my Mac, the only computer with full accessibility for the 
 blind built-in!
 
 Sincerely,
 The Constantly Barefooted Ray, still a very happy Mac and Iphone 5 user!
 
 On Mar 13, 2014, at 3:44 PM, Lisette Wesseling 
 lisettewessel...@gmail.com wrote:
 
 What's wrong with just touching the phone? I know it's a small bug but 
 in the scheme of things it's surely not a show stopper. Yes Apple needs 
 to know about it but to say it's unacceptable is a little strong 
 methinks.
 
 
 On 13/03/2014, at 4:48 am, Ray Foret Jr rforet7...@comcast.net wrote:
 
 A point I myself have made several times here already.  Yesterday, 
 Bill Holton and I verified this issue.  My only suggestion is that we 
 flood Apple with this matter and indicate in blunt absolutely no 
 uncertain terms that this is positively unacceptable.
 
 
 Sent from my Mac, the only computer with full accessibility for the 
 blind built-in!
 
 Sincerely,
 The Constantly Barefooted Ray, still a very happy Mac and Iphone 5 
 user!
 
 On Mar 12, 2014, at 7:46 AM, Kawal Gucukoglu kawa...@me.com wrote:
 
 Hello.
 
 The bug for Messaging, I messaging is still on the I phone, you type 
 your contact and you still can't arrow across to type your message 
 unless you touch the I phone some where else. Is this a bug or is 
 there another way of getting to the messaging field where you type 
 the content of the message?
 
 Jonathan is absolutely right about typing with the Focus blue as I 
 haven't been using mine very much but its lovely. The only problem is 
 i can't write true UEB as Apple have strange ways of writing Braille 
 which jonathan explained once in his article. Writing on the Focus 
 blue is better than writing on the Apex!
 
 Kawal.
 
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Re: The bug for Messaging on the I phone.

2014-03-13 Thread Danny Noonan
It bugs me. I couldn't work out why Siri wouldn't let me call radio cabs. There 
is no radio number for radio cabs she would tell me. 


Danny. 
Sent from my iPhone

 On 14 Mar 2014, at 10:32 am, Jamie Pauls jamiepa...@gmail.com wrote:
 
 When entering numbers into a contact, does anyone know why one of the labels 
 is radio? That one has puzzled me for a while. 
 
 Sent from my iPhone
 
 On Mar 13, 2014, at 5:23 PM, Barry Hadder bhad...@gmail.com wrote:
 
 Hi,
 
 One thing to keep in mind is that messages will refuse to choose a contact 
 option that can't receive a message.
 Is the mobile number an iPhone?  If not, you might check in settings whether 
 or not you have sending sms turned off.
 If you know that the number in question is an iPhone but the field says 
 mobile, you might need to redo the contact and choose iPhone from the popup 
 rather than mobile if you're just wanting to send an iMessage.
 
 On Mar 13, 2014, at 4:56 PM, Ray Foret Jr rforet7...@comcast.net wrote:
 
 You mean move down from the home number?  Thing is, I'm double tapping on 
 the mobile number to select it but the home number gets selected instead.  
 Sent from my Mac, the only computer with full accessibility for the blind 
 built-in!
 
 Sincerely,
 The Constantly Barefooted Ray, still a very happy Mac and IPhone 5 user!
 
 On Mar 13, 2014, at 4:53 PM, David Chittenden dchitten...@gmail.com wrote:
 
 Just go further down the screen to find the other contact number. It is 
 there. 
 
 David Chittenden, MSc, MRCAA
 Email: dchitten...@gmail.com
 Mobile: +64 21 2288 288
 Sent from my iPhone
 
 On 14 Mar 2014, at 10:21, Ray Foret Jr rforet7...@comcast.net wrote:
 
 That is not the bug I am talking about.  I'm talking about not being able 
 to select a contact's mobile number when both a home number and mobile 
 number are present in a contact's information.
 
 
 Sent from my Mac, the only computer with full accessibility for the blind 
 built-in!
 
 Sincerely,
 The Constantly Barefooted Ray, still a very happy Mac and Iphone 5 user!
 
 On Mar 13, 2014, at 4:14 PM, Lisette Wesseling 
 lisettewessel...@gmail.com wrote:
 
 I just mean you can touch the screen somewhere near the edit field 
 towards the bottom of the screen. Double tapping there then lets you 
 write in the edit field.
 I just don't agree it's that unacceptable in the general scheme of 
 things. Apple fixed a lot in the latest 7.1 release, including 
 elimination of the focus issues when using the on screen keyboard. 
 
 Lisette 
 
 On 14/03/2014, at 9:53 am, Ray Foret Jr rforet7...@comcast.net wrote:
 
 What do you mean just touching the phone?  That bug is unacceptible and 
 Apple needs to know about it.
 
 
 Sent from my Mac, the only computer with full accessibility for the 
 blind built-in!
 
 Sincerely,
 The Constantly Barefooted Ray, still a very happy Mac and Iphone 5 user!
 
 On Mar 13, 2014, at 3:44 PM, Lisette Wesseling 
 lisettewessel...@gmail.com wrote:
 
 What's wrong with just touching the phone? I know it's a small bug but 
 in the scheme of things it's surely not a show stopper. Yes Apple needs 
 to know about it but to say it's unacceptable is a little strong 
 methinks.
 
 
 On 13/03/2014, at 4:48 am, Ray Foret Jr rforet7...@comcast.net wrote:
 
 A point I myself have made several times here already.  Yesterday, 
 Bill Holton and I verified this issue.  My only suggestion is that we 
 flood Apple with this matter and indicate in blunt absolutely no 
 uncertain terms that this is positively unacceptable.
 
 
 Sent from my Mac, the only computer with full accessibility for the 
 blind built-in!
 
 Sincerely,
 The Constantly Barefooted Ray, still a very happy Mac and Iphone 5 
 user!
 
 On Mar 12, 2014, at 7:46 AM, Kawal Gucukoglu kawa...@me.com wrote:
 
 Hello.
 
 The bug for Messaging, I messaging is still on the I phone, you type 
 your contact and you still can't arrow across to type your message 
 unless you touch the I phone some where else. Is this a bug or is 
 there another way of getting to the messaging field where you type 
 the content of the message?
 
 Jonathan is absolutely right about typing with the Focus blue as I 
 haven't been using mine very much but its lovely. The only problem is 
 i can't write true UEB as Apple have strange ways of writing Braille 
 which jonathan explained once in his article. Writing on the Focus 
 blue is better than writing on the Apex!
 
 Kawal.
 
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Re: Apple Script saving .aiff file

2014-03-13 Thread Chris Blouch
I'm no AppleScripter but the say command takes a parameter to say where 
to save the aiff audio output instead of playing it through the 
speakers. Normally you could do


say -f input_text_filename.txt -o output_audio.aiff

there are lots of other parameters to the say command which you can find 
by doing a


man say

in terminal.

CB

On 3/13/14 6:08 PM, Traci Duncan wrote:

Hi all,

I've done this in the past and I can't remember how.  It is driving me crazy 
and googling isn't getting me the correct solution.

If I'm creating a script with the say command, using a particular voice, what 
is the last line in the script to save that as an .aiff file?

One reason I'm doing this via Apple script instead of save to iTunes as a 
spoken track, is I want to use the beep command before the say command.

Fingers crossed, someone out there knows exactly what I need.  :)

Traci



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Re: The bug for Messaging on the I phone.

2014-03-13 Thread David Chittenden
Mobile phones, are the same as cell phones, are the same as radio phones. It is 
an older term.

David Chittenden, MSc, MRCAA
Email: dchitten...@gmail.com
Mobile: +64 21 2288 288
Sent from my iPhone

 On 14 Mar 2014, at 12:32, Jamie Pauls jamiepa...@gmail.com wrote:
 
 When entering numbers into a contact, does anyone know why one of the labels 
 is radio? That one has puzzled me for a while. 
 
 Sent from my iPhone
 
 On Mar 13, 2014, at 5:23 PM, Barry Hadder bhad...@gmail.com wrote:
 
 Hi,
 
 One thing to keep in mind is that messages will refuse to choose a contact 
 option that can't receive a message.
 Is the mobile number an iPhone?  If not, you might check in settings whether 
 or not you have sending sms turned off.
 If you know that the number in question is an iPhone but the field says 
 mobile, you might need to redo the contact and choose iPhone from the popup 
 rather than mobile if you're just wanting to send an iMessage.
 
 On Mar 13, 2014, at 4:56 PM, Ray Foret Jr rforet7...@comcast.net wrote:
 
 You mean move down from the home number?  Thing is, I'm double tapping on 
 the mobile number to select it but the home number gets selected instead.  
 Sent from my Mac, the only computer with full accessibility for the blind 
 built-in!
 
 Sincerely,
 The Constantly Barefooted Ray, still a very happy Mac and IPhone 5 user!
 
 On Mar 13, 2014, at 4:53 PM, David Chittenden dchitten...@gmail.com wrote:
 
 Just go further down the screen to find the other contact number. It is 
 there. 
 
 David Chittenden, MSc, MRCAA
 Email: dchitten...@gmail.com
 Mobile: +64 21 2288 288
 Sent from my iPhone
 
 On 14 Mar 2014, at 10:21, Ray Foret Jr rforet7...@comcast.net wrote:
 
 That is not the bug I am talking about.  I'm talking about not being able 
 to select a contact's mobile number when both a home number and mobile 
 number are present in a contact's information.
 
 
 Sent from my Mac, the only computer with full accessibility for the blind 
 built-in!
 
 Sincerely,
 The Constantly Barefooted Ray, still a very happy Mac and Iphone 5 user!
 
 On Mar 13, 2014, at 4:14 PM, Lisette Wesseling 
 lisettewessel...@gmail.com wrote:
 
 I just mean you can touch the screen somewhere near the edit field 
 towards the bottom of the screen. Double tapping there then lets you 
 write in the edit field.
 I just don't agree it's that unacceptable in the general scheme of 
 things. Apple fixed a lot in the latest 7.1 release, including 
 elimination of the focus issues when using the on screen keyboard. 
 
 Lisette 
 
 On 14/03/2014, at 9:53 am, Ray Foret Jr rforet7...@comcast.net wrote:
 
 What do you mean just touching the phone?  That bug is unacceptible and 
 Apple needs to know about it.
 
 
 Sent from my Mac, the only computer with full accessibility for the 
 blind built-in!
 
 Sincerely,
 The Constantly Barefooted Ray, still a very happy Mac and Iphone 5 user!
 
 On Mar 13, 2014, at 3:44 PM, Lisette Wesseling 
 lisettewessel...@gmail.com wrote:
 
 What's wrong with just touching the phone? I know it's a small bug but 
 in the scheme of things it's surely not a show stopper. Yes Apple needs 
 to know about it but to say it's unacceptable is a little strong 
 methinks.
 
 
 On 13/03/2014, at 4:48 am, Ray Foret Jr rforet7...@comcast.net wrote:
 
 A point I myself have made several times here already.  Yesterday, 
 Bill Holton and I verified this issue.  My only suggestion is that we 
 flood Apple with this matter and indicate in blunt absolutely no 
 uncertain terms that this is positively unacceptable.
 
 
 Sent from my Mac, the only computer with full accessibility for the 
 blind built-in!
 
 Sincerely,
 The Constantly Barefooted Ray, still a very happy Mac and Iphone 5 
 user!
 
 On Mar 12, 2014, at 7:46 AM, Kawal Gucukoglu kawa...@me.com wrote:
 
 Hello.
 
 The bug for Messaging, I messaging is still on the I phone, you type 
 your contact and you still can't arrow across to type your message 
 unless you touch the I phone some where else. Is this a bug or is 
 there another way of getting to the messaging field where you type 
 the content of the message?
 
 Jonathan is absolutely right about typing with the Focus blue as I 
 haven't been using mine very much but its lovely. The only problem is 
 i can't write true UEB as Apple have strange ways of writing Braille 
 which jonathan explained once in his article. Writing on the Focus 
 blue is better than writing on the Apex!
 
 Kawal.
 
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