Removing an email account
Hi Can I've recently removed an email account I no longer use from the accounts table in preferences. The weird thing is that the option to send from that email account still appears in the from field when I send an email. Is there any way to get rid of this option too? Thanks for any ideas. Lisette -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups MacVisionaries group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout.
Re: reading without pause
every end of the sentence i mean. is there any setting for not pausing in every sentences? On 01 Sep 2014, at 11:52 pm, Shawn Krasniuk bbssh...@icloud.com wrote: Hi. What's Voiceover doing when doing a say all? Is it pausing at the end of sentences or lines? If it's pausing at the end of sentences, that's normal because if it doesn't it sounds like a run-off sentence. If, however, it's pausing at the end of a line, it shouldn't do that and someone could chine in here on how to fix that. Shawn Sent From My White MacBook On Sep 1, 2014, at 10:24 AM, Dionipher Presas Herrera dionip...@gmail.com wrote: can voice over speak without pausing in every line? because even if i speed up how it still pronounce with pauses. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups MacVisionaries group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups MacVisionaries group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups MacVisionaries group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout.
Re: search and replace in Pages
Hello Jenine, Using the Find and Change commands To find a string quickly, consider using not only the target itself, but also matching the case and any spaces before or after it. Example: To find chapter headings in a book, hit Cmd-F and type in the string Chapter . Then navigate left to the Find and Replace options menu button, click it and ensure that the Match Case option is ticked. Once you have found the first occurrence, close the Find window with Cmd-w and modify the found string as you wish, and thereafter use Find Again (Cmd-G) to find subsequent occurrences. Note that it is currently impossible to put control characters such as New Line, Line Break and Tab into a Find/Change command. Cheers, Anne On 1 Sep 2014, at 20:45, Jenine Stanley dragonwalke...@gmail.com wrote: Can anyone explain how to do a search and replace in Pages? I see two items under the Edit menu, Find submenu that say Use Selection as find and Use Selection as Replace but somehow that doesn't quite work the way I'd expect. Any help is hugely appreciated. Jenine Stanley dragonwalke...@gmail.com -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups MacVisionaries group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups MacVisionaries group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout.
Welcome Jeff to Mac Visionaries
Hi Jeff, I just wanted to welcome you to the list. I'm Allison from Spain. I've been using a Mac now for 5 years. I would never go back to Windows. You will find some great info and people on this list. Have a great day. Musically, Allison Life is not measured by the breaths we take, but by the moments that take our breath away -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups MacVisionaries group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout.
Navigating in Numbers
Hi all, Can anyone tell me how you navigate in Numbers? I'm running Maverics and the latest version of Numbers. I have no idea. Any assistance would be much appreciated. I can see the columns A B C etc, but when I try to arrow down to navigate by row say I want to go to A2 I get that the cell is dimmed. VoiceOvwer doesn't even say the rows. Thank you for any help you can provide. Have a great day. Allison My birds are winged blessings, they help me soar! -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups MacVisionaries group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout.
Re: Navigating in Numbers
Allison, Once you have your spreadsheet open, navigate to the layout area and interact with it. You should hear something like Table. You need to interact with the table again. Then use either tab key or vo+arrow keys to go round your spreadsheet. I find that when I want to enter new data,, navigating with the tab key is more reliable. Stop interacting with the table and again stop interacting with the layout area in porder to move left to the area where you can format various aspects of your spreadsheet. When you vo+left arrow from the layout area to the left you will hear Formatter. Interact with it and you will be able to vo+arrow keys through various formatting options. You have to vo+space on the one you want to format in oder to reveal various options Once you are done, stop interacting with the formatter. hope this will start you off. Andrew On 2 Sep 2014, at 11:26, Marissa Manzino gwennac...@gmail.com wrote: Hi all, Can anyone tell me how you navigate in Numbers? I'm running Maverics and the latest version of Numbers. I have no idea. Any assistance would be much appreciated. I can see the columns A B C etc, but when I try to arrow down to navigate by row say I want to go to A2 I get that the cell is dimmed. VoiceOvwer doesn't even say the rows. Thank you for any help you can provide. Have a great day. Allison My birds are winged blessings, they help me soar! -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups MacVisionaries group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups MacVisionaries group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout.
Re: Welcome Jeff to Mac Visionaries
Hi Allison, thanks for the welcome. I think i'll get a lot out of this email list. Regards, Jeff On 9/2/14, Marissa Manzino gwennac...@gmail.com wrote: Hi Jeff, I just wanted to welcome you to the list. I'm Allison from Spain. I've been using a Mac now for 5 years. I would never go back to Windows. You will find some great info and people on this list. Have a great day. Musically, Allison Life is not measured by the breaths we take, but by the moments that take our breath away -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups MacVisionaries group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups MacVisionaries group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout.
Re: introduction and a question
Hi Mike, I ended up removing the ap with app delete. I might try re-installing it later. Thanks, Jeff On 9/1/14, Mike Arrigo n0...@charter.net wrote: It installs in the status menu, you will need to move to the status menu, then use the voiceover keys to find the icon, although I also had this problem and could not find the application last time I tried it as well. On Sep 1, 2014, at 2:47 PM, jeff `greene greenebo...@gmail.com wrote: Hi I'm Jeff and i just joined this email list. I'm kind of a slider going between mac and windows, although I haven't had a mac for three years. I just bought a like-new 2012 macbook pro 15-inch, so I thought I would subscribe to this list. Ok on to my question: I installed SMC fan control. It was highly recommended on applevis.com, but now that it has been installed and launched for the first time I can't find it. On first launch system control asked if it was ok for SMC to make system changes, and I hit the ok button. It is supposed to live in the menu bar but its not there. If i go to the apps folder and hit open on it nothing happens. Anybody have any suggestions? Thanks, Jeff -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups MacVisionaries group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups MacVisionaries group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups MacVisionaries group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout.
Re: iiis
For a little bit. It watches the change over a two minute span and from there it does a rolling estimate of how much longer your battery will last. Of course if you're burning CDs that estimate is going to be a lot lower than just reading mail. One nice thing in Mavericks is the battery menu also tells you which apps, if any, are being a drain on the battery so you can make informed choices as to what you leave running when you're not plugged in. CB On 9/1/14, 10:49 PM, adrian wrote: is it normal for the batery to say re calculating when it is not plugged in to ac?Î ```Sent from my iPad -- ¯\_(ツ)_/¯ -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups MacVisionaries group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout.
Re: A few issues with Boot Camp, and a heads-up for users of JAWS
Hmm. I don't recall any MacBook Pros that had less than two USB ports. On the non-retina models there are two on the left edge. On the newer non-CD Retina models there is one on both the left and right sides. CB On 8/31/14, 6:05 PM, Grant Hardy wrote: Hi Mark, Go ahead and set up Windows 7 and JAWS on your MBP if that's what you want to do. :) I doubt you'll have any difficulties. I only had trouble because I was following specific troubleshooting steps. I removed the JAWS and Window-Eyes video drivers from the Device Manager, with intent to repair them later. In retrospect, I suppose I should have uninstalled Freedom Scientific Video Intercept from the Programs and Features panel in Control Panel, but there is no guarantee that this would have made any difference. In any case, I was quite taken aback that this would have totally deactivated JAWS. Dongles have their fair share of problems too, but are definitely a little more fail safe. Just a random example of a problem I've experienced with FS Dongles, if you connect a dongle to a computer too early (e.g. before JAWS is installed), then install JAWS, the Dongle will work absolutely fine. However, Windows will offer you a driver update for the Dongle. If you install that update, the Dongle will stop working and you'll have a lot of troubleshooting to do before things start working again. Also of course on something like a Macbook Pro, if it is a current model, you'll only have one USB port to work with (given the Dongle will take up the other one). That's rather unfortunate. While repairing the Boot Camp support software is not exactly a normal part of using the computer that most people will have to do, Apple does roll out updates to the software from time to time which a lot of users will want to take advantage of. While I don't have first hand knowledge of this, I suspect those updates will throw off the activation as well. Cheers, Grant On Aug 31, 2014, at 12:45 PM, M. Taylor mk...@ucla.edu mailto:mk...@ucla.edu wrote: Hello Grant, I am so sorry you are having this problem but thank you so much for sharing your insights. How does one go about uninstalling the Jaws Intercept video drivers? I was thinking about setting up Windows 7 on my MacBook Pro but, after reading your post, perhaps I'll rethink this. Thanks again, Mark -Original Message- From: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com mailto:macvisionaries@googlegroups.com [mailto:macvisionaries@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of Grant Hardy Sent: Saturday, August 30, 2014 8:04 PM To: MacVisionaries List Subject: A few issues with Boot Camp, and a heads-up for users of JAWS Hello all, I encountered Wi-Fi issues on a late 2013 Retina Macbook Pro while running Windows 8.1 professional via Boot Camp. I therefore decided to do some troubleshooting. Really the only troubleshooting suggestion I could find apart from erasing my Windows partition and starting from scratch was to repair the Boot Camp support software. I tried to do this but got errors saying that the installer could not complete and to try it again at a later time. Upon doing some research, I discovered that at least a few people got these errors who had third-party video drivers installed, and therefore the fix was to temporarily uninstall all third-party video devices, repair the Boot Camp installation, then reinstall them. As you probably know, JAWS does in fact install a video driver to assist with screen reading, so I uninstalled it temporarily and sure enough, this was the fix. The Boot Camp installer was able to run at that point and repaired the support software. Unfortunately, it seems that uninstalling the Freedom Scientific Video Intercept drivers triggered my JAWS activation to be lost. Clearly this should not have happened, but I've encountered many situations where this has happened to JAWS over the years for fairly minor system tweaks, or even smaller things such as turning off the Wi-Fi switch on a laptop, and occasionally you can fix the problem by putting things back to the way they were. I hoped that reinstalling the Video Intercept drivers would have re-activated my copy of JAWS, but it did not. This feels like a bug, and I think users of JAWS should be aware that if they are going to repair or update their Boot Camp Support Software, it is likely that they will lose their activation. Since Apple does post updates to the support software from time to time, I think this is something to keep in mind. On another note my Wi-Fi issues are unfortunately not resolved. Among other things, Wi-Fi does not work after the computer sleeps. Windows thinks that I am using a separate Wi-Fi adapter (e.g. the label of the adapter changes from Wi-Fi to Wi-Fi 2, and no connections can be established until the computer is rebooted. Also, the connection drops quite frequently--and again, this only happens while using Windows and not with OS X. Just wanted to
RE: A few issues with Boot Camp, and a heads-up for users of JAWS
Hi sorry but I don't agree with you system access is very good and is updated all the time when its users report a problem and also you can go to www.satogo.com and as long as you have a internet connection youe can use the screen reader all over the computer free so have a look and try it -Original Message- From: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com [mailto:macvisionaries@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of Sabahattin Gucukoglu Sent: Monday, September 01, 2014 3:15 PM To: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com Subject: Re: A few issues with Boot Camp, and a heads-up for users of JAWS Mmm, that's great in theory, but Windows isn't built for access through APIs in the same way that OS X and Linux are yet, so you inevitably need one of the commercial screen readers, for some purpose. So you end up installing the one screen reader that does everything, either JAWS or Window-Eyes (I'm fortunate enough to own both). I hope that Microsoft advances the state of play here, because I really do want to see a Windows world devoid of the requirement for external screen reading software. But yeah, you know, that's kind of not going to happen while Microsoft is studiously avoiding getting hit by sueballs, to our exclusion. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups MacVisionaries group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups MacVisionaries group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout.
Re: Best internet radio player
Radium. Don't know if it has the record streams option. Take care 2. sep. 2014 kl. 04:46 skrev Les Kriegler kriegle...@gmail.com: Grant, I used to use Radium for the Mac. I see you still because I primarily use Radium now on the iPhone. But when I did use it, it did seem to work pretty well. Sent from my iPhone On Sep 1, 2014, at 10:35 PM, Grant Hardy grantha...@outlook.com wrote: Hi all, What apps do people use to play internet radio stations under Mac OS X? Ideally, it would be great to be able to record programs as well, on a schedule if desired. I thought Amadeus Pro would be ideal for this, but unfortunately it doesn't appear to be able to open any of the radio streams I'm throwing at it. Thanks, Grant -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups MacVisionaries group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups MacVisionaries group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups MacVisionaries group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout.
Re: Best internet radio player
I don't think it does. I know TuneIn Radio pro has an option to record. That's certainly another Internet player that could be used. Sent from my iPhone On Sep 2, 2014, at 12:39 PM, Terje Strømberg terjestrmb...@gmail.com wrote: Radium. Don't know if it has the record streams option. Take care 2. sep. 2014 kl. 04:46 skrev Les Kriegler kriegle...@gmail.com: Grant, I used to use Radium for the Mac. I see you still because I primarily use Radium now on the iPhone. But when I did use it, it did seem to work pretty well. Sent from my iPhone On Sep 1, 2014, at 10:35 PM, Grant Hardy grantha...@outlook.com wrote: Hi all, What apps do people use to play internet radio stations under Mac OS X? Ideally, it would be great to be able to record programs as well, on a schedule if desired. I thought Amadeus Pro would be ideal for this, but unfortunately it doesn't appear to be able to open any of the radio streams I'm throwing at it. Thanks, Grant -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups MacVisionaries group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups MacVisionaries group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups MacVisionaries group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups MacVisionaries group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout.
Re: Navigating in Numbers
Hello guys You might try VO j in order to jump back-and-forth between the formatter and your spreadsheet. You can also set hotspots where you want to go real often. Press VO shift and a number to save your hotspot. When you go to it, press VO plus the number you assigned to it. Gigi Sent from my iPhone On Sep 2, 2014, at 6:14 AM, Andrew Lamanche ioani...@me.com wrote: Allison, Once you have your spreadsheet open, navigate to the layout area and interact with it. You should hear something like Table. You need to interact with the table again. Then use either tab key or vo+arrow keys to go round your spreadsheet. I find that when I want to enter new data,, navigating with the tab key is more reliable. Stop interacting with the table and again stop interacting with the layout area in porder to move left to the area where you can format various aspects of your spreadsheet. When you vo+left arrow from the layout area to the left you will hear Formatter. Interact with it and you will be able to vo+arrow keys through various formatting options. You have to vo+space on the one you want to format in oder to reveal various options Once you are done, stop interacting with the formatter. hope this will start you off. Andrew On 2 Sep 2014, at 11:26, Marissa Manzino gwennac...@gmail.com wrote: Hi all, Can anyone tell me how you navigate in Numbers? I'm running Maverics and the latest version of Numbers. I have no idea. Any assistance would be much appreciated. I can see the columns A B C etc, but when I try to arrow down to navigate by row say I want to go to A2 I get that the cell is dimmed. VoiceOvwer doesn't even say the rows. Thank you for any help you can provide. Have a great day. Allison My birds are winged blessings, they help me soar! -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups MacVisionaries group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups MacVisionaries group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups MacVisionaries group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout.
Re: Navigating in Numbers
be aware, that using option + arrow keys will add a row or column to your spreadsheet table automatically. Whereas command arrows will move you to the top/left/bottom/right of a column/row. The two are easy to mix up when you're in a hurry and hitting option + arrows will screw up the column/row count of yur spreadsheet if you're not careful. in those cases, you can simply delete the row or column via the context menu. On Sep 2, 2014, at 1:06 PM, Eugenia Firth gigifi...@me.com wrote: Hello guys You might try VO j in order to jump back-and-forth between the formatter and your spreadsheet. You can also set hotspots where you want to go real often. Press VO shift and a number to save your hotspot. When you go to it, press VO plus the number you assigned to it. Gigi Sent from my iPhone On Sep 2, 2014, at 6:14 AM, Andrew Lamanche ioani...@me.com wrote: Allison, Once you have your spreadsheet open, navigate to the layout area and interact with it. You should hear something like Table. You need to interact with the table again. Then use either tab key or vo+arrow keys to go round your spreadsheet. I find that when I want to enter new data,, navigating with the tab key is more reliable. Stop interacting with the table and again stop interacting with the layout area in porder to move left to the area where you can format various aspects of your spreadsheet. When you vo+left arrow from the layout area to the left you will hear Formatter. Interact with it and you will be able to vo+arrow keys through various formatting options. You have to vo+space on the one you want to format in oder to reveal various options Once you are done, stop interacting with the formatter. hope this will start you off. Andrew On 2 Sep 2014, at 11:26, Marissa Manzino gwennac...@gmail.com wrote: Hi all, Can anyone tell me how you navigate in Numbers? I'm running Maverics and the latest version of Numbers. I have no idea. Any assistance would be much appreciated. I can see the columns A B C etc, but when I try to arrow down to navigate by row say I want to go to A2 I get that the cell is dimmed. VoiceOvwer doesn't even say the rows. Thank you for any help you can provide. Have a great day. Allison My birds are winged blessings, they help me soar! -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups MacVisionaries group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups MacVisionaries group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups MacVisionaries group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups MacVisionaries group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout.
Re: A few issues with Boot Camp, and a heads-up for users of JAWS
My MBP is mid 2012 and only one USB port. From The Believer. . . What if it were true? ancient.ali...@icloud.com On 9/2/2014 7:13 AM, 'Chris Blouch' via MacVisionaries wrote: Hmm. I don't recall any MacBook Pros that had less than two USB ports. On the non-retina models there are two on the left edge. On the newer non-CD Retina models there is one on both the left and right sides. CB On 8/31/14, 6:05 PM, Grant Hardy wrote: Hi Mark, Go ahead and set up Windows 7 and JAWS on your MBP if that's what you want to do. :) I doubt you'll have any difficulties. I only had trouble because I was following specific troubleshooting steps. I removed the JAWS and Window-Eyes video drivers from the Device Manager, with intent to repair them later. In retrospect, I suppose I should have uninstalled Freedom Scientific Video Intercept from the Programs and Features panel in Control Panel, but there is no guarantee that this would have made any difference. In any case, I was quite taken aback that this would have totally deactivated JAWS. Dongles have their fair share of problems too, but are definitely a little more fail safe. Just a random example of a problem I've experienced with FS Dongles, if you connect a dongle to a computer too early (e.g. before JAWS is installed), then install JAWS, the Dongle will work absolutely fine. However, Windows will offer you a driver update for the Dongle. If you install that update, the Dongle will stop working and you'll have a lot of troubleshooting to do before things start working again. Also of course on something like a Macbook Pro, if it is a current model, you'll only have one USB port to work with (given the Dongle will take up the other one). That's rather unfortunate. While repairing the Boot Camp support software is not exactly a normal part of using the computer that most people will have to do, Apple does roll out updates to the software from time to time which a lot of users will want to take advantage of. While I don't have first hand knowledge of this, I suspect those updates will throw off the activation as well. Cheers, Grant On Aug 31, 2014, at 12:45 PM, M. Taylor mk...@ucla.edu mailto:mk...@ucla.edu wrote: Hello Grant, I am so sorry you are having this problem but thank you so much for sharing your insights. How does one go about uninstalling the Jaws Intercept video drivers? I was thinking about setting up Windows 7 on my MacBook Pro but, after reading your post, perhaps I'll rethink this. Thanks again, Mark -Original Message- From: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com mailto:macvisionaries@googlegroups.com [mailto:macvisionaries@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of Grant Hardy Sent: Saturday, August 30, 2014 8:04 PM To: MacVisionaries List Subject: A few issues with Boot Camp, and a heads-up for users of JAWS Hello all, I encountered Wi-Fi issues on a late 2013 Retina Macbook Pro while running Windows 8.1 professional via Boot Camp. I therefore decided to do some troubleshooting. Really the only troubleshooting suggestion I could find apart from erasing my Windows partition and starting from scratch was to repair the Boot Camp support software. I tried to do this but got errors saying that the installer could not complete and to try it again at a later time. Upon doing some research, I discovered that at least a few people got these errors who had third-party video drivers installed, and therefore the fix was to temporarily uninstall all third-party video devices, repair the Boot Camp installation, then reinstall them. As you probably know, JAWS does in fact install a video driver to assist with screen reading, so I uninstalled it temporarily and sure enough, this was the fix. The Boot Camp installer was able to run at that point and repaired the support software. Unfortunately, it seems that uninstalling the Freedom Scientific Video Intercept drivers triggered my JAWS activation to be lost. Clearly this should not have happened, but I've encountered many situations where this has happened to JAWS over the years for fairly minor system tweaks, or even smaller things such as turning off the Wi-Fi switch on a laptop, and occasionally you can fix the problem by putting things back to the way they were. I hoped that reinstalling the Video Intercept drivers would have re-activated my copy of JAWS, but it did not. This feels like a bug, and I think users of JAWS should be aware that if they are going to repair or update their Boot Camp Support Software, it is likely that they will lose their activation. Since Apple does post updates to the support software from time to time, I think this is something to keep in mind. On another note my Wi-Fi issues are unfortunately not resolved. Among other things, Wi-Fi does not work after the computer sleeps. Windows thinks that I am using a separate Wi-Fi adapter (e.g. the label of the adapter changes from Wi-Fi to Wi-Fi 2, and no connections can be established until the computer is rebooted. Also,
editing in quick word
Hi all, I just purchase quick word for my mack but some reason I can not do any editing in it. I purchase it because pages was not working for me at my internship to write documents. So my question is how do you edit in quick word or can't you ? If you can not what would work instead? Thanks again Becky Sabo -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups MacVisionaries group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout.
iMessages drive me nuts sometimes!
Hi all, Am I doing something wrong, or is there a flaw in the concept. iMessages on Mac iOS don't seem to sync up. If I message people on my Mac, it opens a second message window on their iDevice. All of their replies go to my Mac. I think I assumed I could start a conversation on my Mac, then continue it later on my phone. It's great to message folks via my Mac, but I've found so many replies getting lost, because friends don't realize or forget there are 2 message windows. Any suggestions? Is this the way it is designed? Thanks, Traci -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups MacVisionaries group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout.
Re: iMessages drive me nuts sometimes!
It sounds like you don't have all your devices set p to receive from all your addresses and numbers. On iOS, go to Settings Messages, and find the place near the bottom where all the emails and numbers tied to your Apple ID are. Make sure they are all selected. On the Mac, go to the Messages app, then Preferences Accounts tab. Select your iMessages account in the table, select the Settings tab, and find the table right after you can be reached for iMessages at text. Check everything you want in there as well. On both devices, also check that the send as is where you want it. This sets which email or number is used when you start a new conversation with anyone. It is in the same place as where you enabled everything in the above steps. On Sep 2, 2014, at 2:30 PM, Traci Duncan our4p...@gmail.com wrote: Hi all, Am I doing something wrong, or is there a flaw in the concept. iMessages on Mac iOS don't seem to sync up. If I message people on my Mac, it opens a second message window on their iDevice. All of their replies go to my Mac. I think I assumed I could start a conversation on my Mac, then continue it later on my phone. It's great to message folks via my Mac, but I've found so many replies getting lost, because friends don't realize or forget there are 2 message windows. Any suggestions? Is this the way it is designed? Thanks, Traci -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups MacVisionaries group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout. -- Have a great day, Alex Hall mehg...@icloud.com -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups MacVisionaries group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout.
A Question About App Delete
Hello Jeff and Everyone,, A sighted friend of mine raves about how much he loves App Delete. I take it from your post, that App Delete is accessible via VoiceOver, right? From where does one get this app? Is it free? If not, how muchg does it cost. Mark -Original Message- From: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com [mailto:macvisionaries@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of jeff `greene Sent: Tuesday, September 02, 2014 6:15 AM To: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com Subject: Re: introduction and a question Hi Mike, I ended up removing the ap with app delete. I might try re-installing it later. Thanks, Jeff On 9/1/14, Mike Arrigo n0...@charter.net wrote: It installs in the status menu, you will need to move to the status menu, then use the voiceover keys to find the icon, although I also had this problem and could not find the application last time I tried it as well. On Sep 1, 2014, at 2:47 PM, jeff `greene greenebo...@gmail.com wrote: Hi I'm Jeff and i just joined this email list. I'm kind of a slider going between mac and windows, although I haven't had a mac for three years. I just bought a like-new 2012 macbook pro 15-inch, so I thought I would subscribe to this list. Ok on to my question: I installed SMC fan control. It was highly recommended on applevis.com, but now that it has been installed and launched for the first time I can't find it. On first launch system control asked if it was ok for SMC to make system changes, and I hit the ok button. It is supposed to live in the menu bar but its not there. If i go to the apps folder and hit open on it nothing happens. Anybody have any suggestions? Thanks, Jeff -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups MacVisionaries group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups MacVisionaries group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups MacVisionaries group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups MacVisionaries group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout.
Re: reading without pause
Hi why would you want that anyway If you did that it would sound like a sentence that just keeps going on and on like this This is called a run-off sentence and it doesn't sound pleasant to the ears. Now if you had a sentence like this, doesn't this sound more pleasant than the sentences above? I think so. Shawn Sent From My White MacBook On Sep 2, 2014, at 3:41 AM, Dionipher Presas Herrera dionip...@gmail.com wrote: every end of the sentence i mean. is there any setting for not pausing in every sentences? On 01 Sep 2014, at 11:52 pm, Shawn Krasniuk bbssh...@icloud.com wrote: Hi. What's Voiceover doing when doing a say all? Is it pausing at the end of sentences or lines? If it's pausing at the end of sentences, that's normal because if it doesn't it sounds like a run-off sentence. If, however, it's pausing at the end of a line, it shouldn't do that and someone could chine in here on how to fix that. Shawn Sent From My White MacBook On Sep 1, 2014, at 10:24 AM, Dionipher Presas Herrera dionip...@gmail.com wrote: can voice over speak without pausing in every line? because even if i speed up how it still pronounce with pauses. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups MacVisionaries group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups MacVisionaries group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups MacVisionaries group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups MacVisionaries group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout.
Re: A Question About App Delete
As a point of interest, what is it's purpose, we've been discussing two ways of deleting apps lately, so would like to know what benefit an app would have over the system methods discussed. Thanks, Rh. - Original Message - From: M. Taylor mk...@ucla.edu To: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com Sent: Tuesday, September 02, 2014 7:35 PM Subject: A Question About App Delete Hello Jeff and Everyone,, A sighted friend of mine raves about how much he loves App Delete. I take it from your post, that App Delete is accessible via VoiceOver, right? From where does one get this app? Is it free? If not, how muchg does it cost. Mark -Original Message- From: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com [mailto:macvisionaries@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of jeff `greene Sent: Tuesday, September 02, 2014 6:15 AM To: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com Subject: Re: introduction and a question Hi Mike, I ended up removing the ap with app delete. I might try re-installing it later. Thanks, Jeff On 9/1/14, Mike Arrigo n0...@charter.net wrote: It installs in the status menu, you will need to move to the status menu, then use the voiceover keys to find the icon, although I also had this problem and could not find the application last time I tried it as well. On Sep 1, 2014, at 2:47 PM, jeff `greene greenebo...@gmail.com wrote: Hi I'm Jeff and i just joined this email list. I'm kind of a slider going between mac and windows, although I haven't had a mac for three years. I just bought a like-new 2012 macbook pro 15-inch, so I thought I would subscribe to this list. Ok on to my question: I installed SMC fan control. It was highly recommended on applevis.com, but now that it has been installed and launched for the first time I can't find it. On first launch system control asked if it was ok for SMC to make system changes, and I hit the ok button. It is supposed to live in the menu bar but its not there. If i go to the apps folder and hit open on it nothing happens. Anybody have any suggestions? Thanks, Jeff -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups MacVisionaries group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups MacVisionaries group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups MacVisionaries group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups MacVisionaries group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups MacVisionaries group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout.
Re: reading without pause
That is called run-on sentences. But what happens when people leave out most of the punctuation and little to no formatting anyway? :) From The Believer. . . What if it were true? ancient.ali...@icloud.com On 9/2/2014 11:37 AM, Shawn Krasniuk wrote: Hi why would you want that anyway If you did that it would sound like a sentence that just keeps going on and on like this This is called a run-off sentence and it doesn't sound pleasant to the ears. Now if you had a sentence like this, doesn't this sound more pleasant than the sentences above? I think so. Shawn Sent From My White MacBook On Sep 2, 2014, at 3:41 AM, Dionipher Presas Herrera dionip...@gmail.com wrote: every end of the sentence i mean. is there any setting for not pausing in every sentences? On 01 Sep 2014, at 11:52 pm, Shawn Krasniuk bbssh...@icloud.com wrote: Hi. What's Voiceover doing when doing a say all? Is it pausing at the end of sentences or lines? If it's pausing at the end of sentences, that's normal because if it doesn't it sounds like a run-off sentence. If, however, it's pausing at the end of a line, it shouldn't do that and someone could chine in here on how to fix that. Shawn Sent From My White MacBook On Sep 1, 2014, at 10:24 AM, Dionipher Presas Herrera dionip...@gmail.com wrote: can voice over speak without pausing in every line? because even if i speed up how it still pronounce with pauses. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups MacVisionaries group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups MacVisionaries group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups MacVisionaries group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups MacVisionaries group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout.
Re: Removing an email account
Hi Lisette, yes, interestingly deleting an account in Mail doesn't delete its SMTP server. You have to do this separately. Go into mail Preferences, Choose the Accounts tab, and then proceed is if you were going to edit one of your existing accounts. As you move through the dialog, you'll eventually come to your SMTP server list. If you down-arrow through that list, you'll find an option called Edit SMTP server list. Activate that option, and you'll see your old SMTP server still in there. Delete it, and this will solve the problem. Jonathan Mosen Mosen Consulting Blindness technology eBooks, tutorials and training http://Mosen.org On 2/09/2014, at 8:18 pm, Lisette Wesseling lisettewessel...@gmail.com wrote: Hi Can I've recently removed an email account I no longer use from the accounts table in preferences. The weird thing is that the option to send from that email account still appears in the from field when I send an email. Is there any way to get rid of this option too? Thanks for any ideas. Lisette -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups MacVisionaries group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups MacVisionaries group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout.
RE: A few issues with Boot Camp, and a heads-up for users of JAWS
Hello, I am running a 2013 MBA, with Win 8.1 installed in Bootcamp. The JAWS version is 15 current build. Right now, I am not having any issues with JAWS running in Bootcamp, but it seems that when Bootcamp has an upgrade that's when there may be issues? I have 2 old FS JAWS dongles stashed away in a safe place. Will these work if I need to switch over to using a Dongle to run JAWS in Bootcamp? I'm just curious for now. Thanks. Eileen -Original Message- From: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com [mailto:macvisionaries@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of The Believer Sent: Tuesday, September 2, 2014 10:47 AM To: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com Subject: Re: A few issues with Boot Camp, and a heads-up for users of JAWS My MBP is mid 2012 and only one USB port. From The Believer. . . What if it were true? ancient.ali...@icloud.com On 9/2/2014 7:13 AM, 'Chris Blouch' via MacVisionaries wrote: Hmm. I don't recall any MacBook Pros that had less than two USB ports. On the non-retina models there are two on the left edge. On the newer non-CD Retina models there is one on both the left and right sides. CB On 8/31/14, 6:05 PM, Grant Hardy wrote: Hi Mark, Go ahead and set up Windows 7 and JAWS on your MBP if that's what you want to do. :) I doubt you'll have any difficulties. I only had trouble because I was following specific troubleshooting steps. I removed the JAWS and Window-Eyes video drivers from the Device Manager, with intent to repair them later. In retrospect, I suppose I should have uninstalled Freedom Scientific Video Intercept from the Programs and Features panel in Control Panel, but there is no guarantee that this would have made any difference. In any case, I was quite taken aback that this would have totally deactivated JAWS. Dongles have their fair share of problems too, but are definitely a little more fail safe. Just a random example of a problem I've experienced with FS Dongles, if you connect a dongle to a computer too early (e.g. before JAWS is installed), then install JAWS, the Dongle will work absolutely fine. However, Windows will offer you a driver update for the Dongle. If you install that update, the Dongle will stop working and you'll have a lot of troubleshooting to do before things start working again. Also of course on something like a Macbook Pro, if it is a current model, you'll only have one USB port to work with (given the Dongle will take up the other one). That's rather unfortunate. While repairing the Boot Camp support software is not exactly a normal part of using the computer that most people will have to do, Apple does roll out updates to the software from time to time which a lot of users will want to take advantage of. While I don't have first hand knowledge of this, I suspect those updates will throw off the activation as well. Cheers, Grant On Aug 31, 2014, at 12:45 PM, M. Taylor mk...@ucla.edu mailto:mk...@ucla.edu wrote: Hello Grant, I am so sorry you are having this problem but thank you so much for sharing your insights. How does one go about uninstalling the Jaws Intercept video drivers? I was thinking about setting up Windows 7 on my MacBook Pro but, after reading your post, perhaps I'll rethink this. Thanks again, Mark -Original Message- From: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com mailto:macvisionaries@googlegroups.com [mailto:macvisionaries@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of Grant Hardy Sent: Saturday, August 30, 2014 8:04 PM To: MacVisionaries List Subject: A few issues with Boot Camp, and a heads-up for users of JAWS Hello all, I encountered Wi-Fi issues on a late 2013 Retina Macbook Pro while running Windows 8.1 professional via Boot Camp. I therefore decided to do some troubleshooting. Really the only troubleshooting suggestion I could find apart from erasing my Windows partition and starting from scratch was to repair the Boot Camp support software. I tried to do this but got errors saying that the installer could not complete and to try it again at a later time. Upon doing some research, I discovered that at least a few people got these errors who had third-party video drivers installed, and therefore the fix was to temporarily uninstall all third-party video devices, repair the Boot Camp installation, then reinstall them. As you probably know, JAWS does in fact install a video driver to assist with screen reading, so I uninstalled it temporarily and sure enough, this was the fix. The Boot Camp installer was able to run at that point and repaired the support software. Unfortunately, it seems that uninstalling the Freedom Scientific Video Intercept drivers triggered my JAWS activation to be lost. Clearly this should not have happened, but I've encountered many situations where this has happened to JAWS over the years for fairly minor system tweaks, or even smaller things such as turning off the Wi-Fi
Re: iMessages drive me nuts sometimes!
Hi, Further to what Alex has mentioned, I usually set my iPhone and Mac to only use my phone number. That is, when I send messages from my Mac, it appears to the receiver that I've sent it from my phone. By doing this, all messages from me will stay within the same thread, not showing up as coming from my Apple ID or some other address that I have registered to my Apple ID. So, using Alex's instructions, I would only have my iPhone number checked on each of my devices including my Mac. Later... Tim Kilburn Fort McMurray, AB Canada On Sep 2, 2014, at 12:35 PM, Alex Hall mehg...@icloud.com wrote: It sounds like you don't have all your devices set p to receive from all your addresses and numbers. On iOS, go to Settings Messages, and find the place near the bottom where all the emails and numbers tied to your Apple ID are. Make sure they are all selected. On the Mac, go to the Messages app, then Preferences Accounts tab. Select your iMessages account in the table, select the Settings tab, and find the table right after you can be reached for iMessages at text. Check everything you want in there as well. On both devices, also check that the send as is where you want it. This sets which email or number is used when you start a new conversation with anyone. It is in the same place as where you enabled everything in the above steps. On Sep 2, 2014, at 2:30 PM, Traci Duncan our4p...@gmail.com wrote: Hi all, Am I doing something wrong, or is there a flaw in the concept. iMessages on Mac iOS don't seem to sync up. If I message people on my Mac, it opens a second message window on their iDevice. All of their replies go to my Mac. I think I assumed I could start a conversation on my Mac, then continue it later on my phone. It's great to message folks via my Mac, but I've found so many replies getting lost, because friends don't realize or forget there are 2 message windows. Any suggestions? Is this the way it is designed? Thanks, Traci -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups MacVisionaries group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout. -- Have a great day, Alex Hall mehg...@icloud.com -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups MacVisionaries group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups MacVisionaries group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout.
Re: iMessages drive me nuts sometimes!
The people I iMessage have all my email addresses and my phone number stored in the same contact on their devices. This way, all messages always come from me, no matter what. Of course, I have very few iMessage contacts - most people use Android and/or Windows, so this isn't an issue for me. Either way, hopefully this fixes the OP's problem. On Sep 2, 2014, at 3:21 PM, Tim Kilburn kilbu...@me.com wrote: Hi, Further to what Alex has mentioned, I usually set my iPhone and Mac to only use my phone number. That is, when I send messages from my Mac, it appears to the receiver that I've sent it from my phone. By doing this, all messages from me will stay within the same thread, not showing up as coming from my Apple ID or some other address that I have registered to my Apple ID. So, using Alex's instructions, I would only have my iPhone number checked on each of my devices including my Mac. Later... Tim Kilburn Fort McMurray, AB Canada On Sep 2, 2014, at 12:35 PM, Alex Hall mehg...@icloud.com wrote: It sounds like you don't have all your devices set p to receive from all your addresses and numbers. On iOS, go to Settings Messages, and find the place near the bottom where all the emails and numbers tied to your Apple ID are. Make sure they are all selected. On the Mac, go to the Messages app, then Preferences Accounts tab. Select your iMessages account in the table, select the Settings tab, and find the table right after you can be reached for iMessages at text. Check everything you want in there as well. On both devices, also check that the send as is where you want it. This sets which email or number is used when you start a new conversation with anyone. It is in the same place as where you enabled everything in the above steps. On Sep 2, 2014, at 2:30 PM, Traci Duncan our4p...@gmail.com wrote: Hi all, Am I doing something wrong, or is there a flaw in the concept. iMessages on Mac iOS don't seem to sync up. If I message people on my Mac, it opens a second message window on their iDevice. All of their replies go to my Mac. I think I assumed I could start a conversation on my Mac, then continue it later on my phone. It's great to message folks via my Mac, but I've found so many replies getting lost, because friends don't realize or forget there are 2 message windows. Any suggestions? Is this the way it is designed? Thanks, Traci -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups MacVisionaries group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout. -- Have a great day, Alex Hall mehg...@icloud.com -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups MacVisionaries group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups MacVisionaries group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout. -- Have a great day, Alex Hall mehg...@icloud.com -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups MacVisionaries group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout.
Re: A few issues with Boot Camp, and a heads-up for users of JAWS
Hello Eileen: You have two Dongles? I assume you have two separate licenses of JAWS, then? In any case, yes, if a Dongle is authorized for JAWS 15, then yes, it should work without issues. As for internet activation, there are really no guarantees whether or not updating the Boot Camp Support Software would deactivate your license of JAWS. You could try exiting JAWS completely during the upgrade and use another screen reader, such as NVDA or Narrator. There's also a chance the installation will be smooth and there'll be no issues. I immediately was told that the installer couldn't complete, and after researching the problem online I determined that a few people had given the suggestion of trying to uninstall third party video software before running the installer. As I said, this did indeed work for me. Maybe this isn't a normal thing to have to do, though. If other JAWS users have tried repairing or reinstalling the Boot Camp Support Software, I'd ask them to chime in and let me know how things went. It's also possible that removing Freedom Scientific Video Intercept Software from the Programs and Features section of the Control Panel would work better. In any case, if your JAWS deactivates, FS should be able to reset it for you but I would recommend reporting this to them as a bug, which I honestly believe it is. To respond to some points made by other listers, giving up commercial screen reading software just isn't an option a lot of us would want to do as I do rely on some of the power features of JAWS, for example, to make me more efficient. Two examples that immediately spring to mind are speech and sounds schemes, and the flexible web feature. Indeed, I feel that with a machine that can run JAWS, Window-Eyes, NVDA, and VoiceOver, as well as any other screen reader you like, you have the greatest number of tools in your toolbox to deal with any screen reading needs that come up. I would hope though that one day JAWS will embrace the more benign copy protection models that are used by companies like Microsoft and Apple, which enforce their EULA but in a much more user friendly way. With Apple for example, you need only sign in with your Apple ID and password, and you have access to all your purchases. With Microsoft, you can activate repeatedly on the same machine and it'll automatically push it through for you. If you change machines, they have a 24/7 call centre that you can telephone. In any case, I guess further discussion of this particular point should be taken to a different list, but I did want to bring this JAWS and Boot Camp issue to listers' attention. Cheers, Grant On Sep 2, 2014, at 12:15 PM, Eileen Misrahi eileen.misr...@gmail.com wrote: Hello, I am running a 2013 MBA, with Win 8.1 installed in Bootcamp. The JAWS version is 15 current build. Right now, I am not having any issues with JAWS running in Bootcamp, but it seems that when Bootcamp has an upgrade that's when there may be issues? I have 2 old FS JAWS dongles stashed away in a safe place. Will these work if I need to switch over to using a Dongle to run JAWS in Bootcamp? I'm just curious for now. Thanks. Eileen -Original Message- From: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com [mailto:macvisionaries@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of The Believer Sent: Tuesday, September 2, 2014 10:47 AM To: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com Subject: Re: A few issues with Boot Camp, and a heads-up for users of JAWS My MBP is mid 2012 and only one USB port. From The Believer. . . What if it were true? ancient.ali...@icloud.com On 9/2/2014 7:13 AM, 'Chris Blouch' via MacVisionaries wrote: Hmm. I don't recall any MacBook Pros that had less than two USB ports. On the non-retina models there are two on the left edge. On the newer non-CD Retina models there is one on both the left and right sides. CB On 8/31/14, 6:05 PM, Grant Hardy wrote: Hi Mark, Go ahead and set up Windows 7 and JAWS on your MBP if that's what you want to do. :) I doubt you'll have any difficulties. I only had trouble because I was following specific troubleshooting steps. I removed the JAWS and Window-Eyes video drivers from the Device Manager, with intent to repair them later. In retrospect, I suppose I should have uninstalled Freedom Scientific Video Intercept from the Programs and Features panel in Control Panel, but there is no guarantee that this would have made any difference. In any case, I was quite taken aback that this would have totally deactivated JAWS. Dongles have their fair share of problems too, but are definitely a little more fail safe. Just a random example of a problem I've experienced with FS Dongles, if you connect a dongle to a computer too early (e.g. before JAWS is installed), then install JAWS, the Dongle will work absolutely fine. However, Windows will offer you a driver update for the Dongle. If you install that update, the Dongle will
Re: A few issues with Boot Camp, and a heads-up for users of JAWS
Hi Chris, my point was that on such a machine (with two USB ports), with a Dongle taking up one of those ports, you’ll be practically restricted to just one USB port and would therefore have to purchase a USB hub if you need more. Grant On Sep 2, 2014, at 7:13 AM, 'Chris Blouch' via MacVisionaries macvisionaries@googlegroups.com wrote: Hmm. I don't recall any MacBook Pros that had less than two USB ports. On the non-retina models there are two on the left edge. On the newer non-CD Retina models there is one on both the left and right sides. CB On 8/31/14, 6:05 PM, Grant Hardy wrote: Hi Mark, Go ahead and set up Windows 7 and JAWS on your MBP if that’s what you want to do. :) I doubt you’ll have any difficulties. I only had trouble because I was following specific troubleshooting steps. I removed the JAWS and Window-Eyes video drivers from the Device Manager, with intent to repair them later. In retrospect, I suppose I should have uninstalled “Freedom Scientific Video Intercept” from the Programs and Features panel in Control Panel, but there is no guarantee that this would have made any difference. In any case, I was quite taken aback that this would have totally deactivated JAWS. Dongles have their fair share of problems too, but are definitely a little more fail safe. Just a random example of a problem I’ve experienced with FS Dongles, if you connect a dongle to a computer too early (e.g. before JAWS is installed), then install JAWS, the Dongle will work absolutely fine. However, Windows will offer you a driver update for the Dongle. If you install that update, the Dongle will stop working and you’ll have a lot of troubleshooting to do before things start working again. Also of course on something like a Macbook Pro, if it is a current model, you’ll only have one USB port to work with (given the Dongle will take up the other one). That’s rather unfortunate. While repairing the Boot Camp support software is not exactly a normal part of using the computer that most people will have to do, Apple does roll out updates to the software from time to time which a lot of users will want to take advantage of. While I don’t have first hand knowledge of this, I suspect those updates will throw off the activation as well. Cheers, Grant On Aug 31, 2014, at 12:45 PM, M. Taylor mk...@ucla.edu wrote: Hello Grant, I am so sorry you are having this problem but thank you so much for sharing your insights. How does one go about uninstalling the Jaws Intercept video drivers? I was thinking about setting up Windows 7 on my MacBook Pro but, after reading your post, perhaps I'll rethink this. Thanks again, Mark -Original Message- From: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com [mailto:macvisionaries@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of Grant Hardy Sent: Saturday, August 30, 2014 8:04 PM To: MacVisionaries List Subject: A few issues with Boot Camp, and a heads-up for users of JAWS Hello all, I encountered Wi-Fi issues on a late 2013 Retina Macbook Pro while running Windows 8.1 professional via Boot Camp. I therefore decided to do some troubleshooting. Really the only troubleshooting suggestion I could find apart from erasing my Windows partition and starting from scratch was to repair the Boot Camp support software. I tried to do this but got errors saying that the installer could not complete and to try it again at a later time. Upon doing some research, I discovered that at least a few people got these errors who had third-party video drivers installed, and therefore the fix was to temporarily uninstall all third-party video devices, repair the Boot Camp installation, then reinstall them. As you probably know, JAWS does in fact install a video driver to assist with screen reading, so I uninstalled it temporarily and sure enough, this was the fix. The Boot Camp installer was able to run at that point and repaired the support software. Unfortunately, it seems that uninstalling the Freedom Scientific Video Intercept drivers triggered my JAWS activation to be lost. Clearly this should not have happened, but I've encountered many situations where this has happened to JAWS over the years for fairly minor system tweaks, or even smaller things such as turning off the Wi-Fi switch on a laptop, and occasionally you can fix the problem by putting things back to the way they were. I hoped that reinstalling the Video Intercept drivers would have re-activated my copy of JAWS, but it did not. This feels like a bug, and I think users of JAWS should be aware that if they are going to repair or update their Boot Camp Support Software, it is likely that they will lose their activation. Since Apple does post updates to the support software from time to time, I think this is something to keep in mind. On another note my Wi-Fi issues are unfortunately not resolved. Among other things, Wi-Fi does not work
Re: Best internet radio player
Hello Les, I don't think TuneIn is available for OS X. Also, I didn't try Radium as recording wasn't listed as one of its features, but I did buy three apps from the App Store and unfortunately none of them are accessible. There's one that I think might be doable if I can label some of the buttons and controls, but am not too sure at this point. It looks like I will need to request a refund from Apple. In any case, I shall keep the list posted. Grant On Sep 2, 2014, at 9:41 AM, Les Kriegler kriegle...@gmail.com wrote: I don't think it does. I know TuneIn Radio pro has an option to record. That's certainly another Internet player that could be used. Sent from my iPhone On Sep 2, 2014, at 12:39 PM, Terje Strømberg terjestrmb...@gmail.com wrote: Radium. Don't know if it has the record streams option. Take care 2. sep. 2014 kl. 04:46 skrev Les Kriegler kriegle...@gmail.com: Grant, I used to use Radium for the Mac. I see you still because I primarily use Radium now on the iPhone. But when I did use it, it did seem to work pretty well. Sent from my iPhone On Sep 1, 2014, at 10:35 PM, Grant Hardy grantha...@outlook.com wrote: Hi all, What apps do people use to play internet radio stations under Mac OS X? Ideally, it would be great to be able to record programs as well, on a schedule if desired. I thought Amadeus Pro would be ideal for this, but unfortunately it doesn't appear to be able to open any of the radio streams I'm throwing at it. Thanks, Grant -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups MacVisionaries group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups MacVisionaries group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups MacVisionaries group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups MacVisionaries group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups MacVisionaries group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout.
RE: A few issues with Boot Camp, and a heads-up for users of JAWS
Hi Grant, I received these Dongles so long ago. So, if I am comprehending you correctly, the Dongle is authorized specific to JAWS 15. Is that correct? Thanks. For the clarification. Eileen From: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com [mailto:macvisionaries@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of Grant Hardy Sent: Tuesday, September 2, 2014 12:38 PM To: MacVisionaries List Subject: Re: A few issues with Boot Camp, and a heads-up for users of JAWS Hello Eileen: You have two Dongles? I assume you have two separate licenses of JAWS, then? In any case, yes, if a Dongle is authorized for JAWS 15, then yes, it should work without issues. As for internet activation, there are really no guarantees whether or not updating the Boot Camp Support Software would deactivate your license of JAWS. You could try exiting JAWS completely during the upgrade and use another screen reader, such as NVDA or Narrator. There's also a chance the installation will be smooth and there'll be no issues. I immediately was told that the installer couldn't complete, and after researching the problem online I determined that a few people had given the suggestion of trying to uninstall third party video software before running the installer. As I said, this did indeed work for me. Maybe this isn't a normal thing to have to do, though. If other JAWS users have tried repairing or reinstalling the Boot Camp Support Software, I'd ask them to chime in and let me know how things went. It's also possible that removing Freedom Scientific Video Intercept Software from the Programs and Features section of the Control Panel would work better. In any case, if your JAWS deactivates, FS should be able to reset it for you but I would recommend reporting this to them as a bug, which I honestly believe it is. To respond to some points made by other listers, giving up commercial screen reading software just isn't an option a lot of us would want to do as I do rely on some of the power features of JAWS, for example, to make me more efficient. Two examples that immediately spring to mind are speech and sounds schemes, and the flexible web feature. Indeed, I feel that with a machine that can run JAWS, Window-Eyes, NVDA, and VoiceOver, as well as any other screen reader you like, you have the greatest number of tools in your toolbox to deal with any screen reading needs that come up. I would hope though that one day JAWS will embrace the more benign copy protection models that are used by companies like Microsoft and Apple, which enforce their EULA but in a much more user friendly way. With Apple for example, you need only sign in with your Apple ID and password, and you have access to all your purchases. With Microsoft, you can activate repeatedly on the same machine and it'll automatically push it through for you. If you change machines, they have a 24/7 call centre that you can telephone. In any case, I guess further discussion of this particular point should be taken to a different list, but I did want to bring this JAWS and Boot Camp issue to listers' attention. Cheers, Grant On Sep 2, 2014, at 12:15 PM, Eileen Misrahi eileen.misr...@gmail.com wrote: Hello, I am running a 2013 MBA, with Win 8.1 installed in Bootcamp. The JAWS version is 15 current build. Right now, I am not having any issues with JAWS running in Bootcamp, but it seems that when Bootcamp has an upgrade that's when there may be issues? I have 2 old FS JAWS dongles stashed away in a safe place. Will these work if I need to switch over to using a Dongle to run JAWS in Bootcamp? I'm just curious for now. Thanks. Eileen -Original Message- From: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com [mailto:macvisionaries@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of The Believer Sent: Tuesday, September 2, 2014 10:47 AM To: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com Subject: Re: A few issues with Boot Camp, and a heads-up for users of JAWS My MBP is mid 2012 and only one USB port. From The Believer. . . What if it were true? ancient.ali...@icloud.com On 9/2/2014 7:13 AM, 'Chris Blouch' via MacVisionaries wrote: Hmm. I don't recall any MacBook Pros that had less than two USB ports. On the non-retina models there are two on the left edge. On the newer non-CD Retina models there is one on both the left and right sides. CB On 8/31/14, 6:05 PM, Grant Hardy wrote: Hi Mark, Go ahead and set up Windows 7 and JAWS on your MBP if that's what you want to do. :) I doubt you'll have any difficulties. I only had trouble because I was following specific troubleshooting steps. I removed the JAWS and Window-Eyes video drivers from the Device Manager, with intent to repair them later. In retrospect, I suppose I should have uninstalled Freedom Scientific Video Intercept from the Programs and Features panel in Control Panel, but there is no guarantee that this would have made any difference. In any case, I was quite taken aback that this would have totally deactivated JAWS. Dongles
Re: A Question About App Delete
Hi app delete will get rid of all parts of an app including preference panes etc. You can get it for $7.99 from reggieashworth.com. And, its accessible with VO. Hope this helps, Jeff On Sep 2, 2014, at 2:41 PM, BobH. long.c...@virgin.net wrote: As a point of interest, what is it's purpose, we've been discussing two ways of deleting apps lately, so would like to know what benefit an app would have over the system methods discussed. Thanks, Rh. - Original Message - From: M. Taylor mk...@ucla.edu To: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com Sent: Tuesday, September 02, 2014 7:35 PM Subject: A Question About App Delete Hello Jeff and Everyone,, A sighted friend of mine raves about how much he loves App Delete. I take it from your post, that App Delete is accessible via VoiceOver, right? From where does one get this app? Is it free? If not, how muchg does it cost. Mark -Original Message- From: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com [mailto:macvisionaries@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of jeff `greene Sent: Tuesday, September 02, 2014 6:15 AM To: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com Subject: Re: introduction and a question Hi Mike, I ended up removing the ap with app delete. I might try re-installing it later. Thanks, Jeff On 9/1/14, Mike Arrigo n0...@charter.net wrote: It installs in the status menu, you will need to move to the status menu, then use the voiceover keys to find the icon, although I also had this problem and could not find the application last time I tried it as well. On Sep 1, 2014, at 2:47 PM, jeff `greene greenebo...@gmail.com wrote: Hi I'm Jeff and i just joined this email list. I'm kind of a slider going between mac and windows, although I haven't had a mac for three years. I just bought a like-new 2012 macbook pro 15-inch, so I thought I would subscribe to this list. Ok on to my question: I installed SMC fan control. It was highly recommended on applevis.com, but now that it has been installed and launched for the first time I can't find it. On first launch system control asked if it was ok for SMC to make system changes, and I hit the ok button. It is supposed to live in the menu bar but its not there. If i go to the apps folder and hit open on it nothing happens. Anybody have any suggestions? Thanks, Jeff -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups MacVisionaries group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups MacVisionaries group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups MacVisionaries group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups MacVisionaries group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups MacVisionaries group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups MacVisionaries group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout.
Re: A few issues with Boot Camp, and a heads-up for users of JAWS
If you have only one USB port I suspect you have an Air, not a Pro. At 01:46 PM 9/2/2014, you wrote: My MBP is mid 2012 and only one USB port. From The Believer. . . What if it were true? ancient.ali...@icloud.com On 9/2/2014 7:13 AM, 'Chris Blouch' via MacVisionaries wrote: Hmm. I don't recall any MacBook Pros that had less than two USB ports. On the non-retina models there are two on the left edge. On the newer non-CD Retina models there is one on both the left and right sides. CB On 8/31/14, 6:05 PM, Grant Hardy wrote: Hi Mark, Go ahead and set up Windows 7 and JAWS on your MBP if that's what you want to do. :) I doubt you'll have any difficulties. I only had trouble because I was following specific troubleshooting steps. I removed the JAWS and Window-Eyes video drivers from the Device Manager, with intent to repair them later. In retrospect, I suppose I should have uninstalled Freedom Scientific Video Intercept from the Programs and Features panel in Control Panel, but there is no guarantee that this would have made any difference. In any case, I was quite taken aback that this would have totally deactivated JAWS. Dongles have their fair share of problems too, but are definitely a little more fail safe. Just a random example of a problem I've experienced with FS Dongles, if you connect a dongle to a computer too early (e.g. before JAWS is installed), then install JAWS, the Dongle will work absolutely fine. However, Windows will offer you a driver update for the Dongle. If you install that update, the Dongle will stop working and you'll have a lot of troubleshooting to do before things start working again. Also of course on something like a Macbook Pro, if it is a current model, you'll only have one USB port to work with (given the Dongle will take up the other one). That's rather unfortunate. While repairing the Boot Camp support software is not exactly a normal part of using the computer that most people will have to do, Apple does roll out updates to the software from time to time which a lot of users will want to take advantage of. While I don't have first hand knowledge of this, I suspect those updates will throw off the activation as well. Cheers, Grant On Aug 31, 2014, at 12:45 PM, M. Taylor mk...@ucla.edu mailto:mk...@ucla.edu wrote: Hello Grant, I am so sorry you are having this problem but thank you so much for sharing your insights. How does one go about uninstalling the Jaws Intercept video drivers? I was thinking about setting up Windows 7 on my MacBook Pro but, after reading your post, perhaps I'll rethink this. Thanks again, Mark -Original Message- From: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com mailto:macvisionaries@googlegroups.com [mailto:macvisionaries@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of Grant Hardy Sent: Saturday, August 30, 2014 8:04 PM To: MacVisionaries List Subject: A few issues with Boot Camp, and a heads-up for users of JAWS Hello all, I encountered Wi-Fi issues on a late 2013 Retina Macbook Pro while running Windows 8.1 professional via Boot Camp. I therefore decided to do some troubleshooting. Really the only troubleshooting suggestion I could find apart from erasing my Windows partition and starting from scratch was to repair the Boot Camp support software. I tried to do this but got errors saying that the installer could not complete and to try it again at a later time. Upon doing some research, I discovered that at least a few people got these errors who had third-party video drivers installed, and therefore the fix was to temporarily uninstall all third-party video devices, repair the Boot Camp installation, then reinstall them. As you probably know, JAWS does in fact install a video driver to assist with screen reading, so I uninstalled it temporarily and sure enough, this was the fix. The Boot Camp installer was able to run at that point and repaired the support software. Unfortunately, it seems that uninstalling the Freedom Scientific Video Intercept drivers triggered my JAWS activation to be lost. Clearly this should not have happened, but I've encountered many situations where this has happened to JAWS over the years for fairly minor system tweaks, or even smaller things such as turning off the Wi-Fi switch on a laptop, and occasionally you can fix the problem by putting things back to the way they were. I hoped that reinstalling the Video Intercept drivers would have re-activated my copy of JAWS, but it did not. This feels like a bug, and I think users of JAWS should be aware that if they are going to repair or update their Boot Camp Support Software, it is likely that they will lose their activation. Since Apple does post updates to the support software from time to time, I think this is something to keep in mind. On another note my Wi-Fi issues are unfortunately not resolved. Among other things, Wi-Fi does not work after the computer sleeps. Windows thinks that I am using a separate Wi-Fi adapter (e.g. the label of the adapter
Re: A few issues with Boot Camp, and a heads-up for users of JAWS
The dongle must be authorised for a particular version of JAWS. You can plug it in and use the Dongle Viewer tool that comes with JAWS to see what version your dongles authorise now. If you are in need of an update file for your dongle, contact FS for the file and give them the serial numbers; they should provide an update for your dongles if the serial numbers are authorised for JAWS 15. If you have SMAs, those also will be included in your dongle license files. Yes, I confirm that BootCamp driver updates are made harder by the need to remove the video driver. My advice is to do your initial Windows installation with the latest version of the drivers that are available at the time of the installation, to minimise your need to do an update later. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups MacVisionaries group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout.
Re: A few issues with Boot Camp, and a heads-up for users of JAWS
Ahh, thanks for un-confusing me. I was trying to figure out when Apple made a single USB-port MacBook Pro. That said, other than synching my iPhone or using my USB Dual Pre audio box most stuff I want to do is already in the MacBook or uses one of the other ports. Without a LAN connection or CD drive on the Air I think I would have more issues with the single USB port, but that's also why I didn't go that route. The lightness sure would be nice though. CB On 9/2/14, 3:39 PM, Grant Hardy wrote: Hi Chris, my point was that on such a machine (with two USB ports), with a Dongle taking up one of those ports, you’ll be practically restricted to just one USB port and would therefore have to purchase a USB hub if you need more. Grant On Sep 2, 2014, at 7:13 AM, 'Chris Blouch' via MacVisionaries macvisionaries@googlegroups.com mailto:macvisionaries@googlegroups.com wrote: Hmm. I don't recall any MacBook Pros that had less than two USB ports. On the non-retina models there are two on the left edge. On the newer non-CD Retina models there is one on both the left and right sides. CB On 8/31/14, 6:05 PM, Grant Hardy wrote: Hi Mark, Go ahead and set up Windows 7 and JAWS on your MBP if that’s what you want to do. :) I doubt you’ll have any difficulties. I only had trouble because I was following specific troubleshooting steps. I removed the JAWS and Window-Eyes video drivers from the Device Manager, with intent to repair them later. In retrospect, I suppose I should have uninstalled “Freedom Scientific Video Intercept” from the Programs and Features panel in Control Panel, but there is no guarantee that this would have made any difference. In any case, I was quite taken aback that this would have totally deactivated JAWS. Dongles have their fair share of problems too, but are definitely a little more fail safe. Just a random example of a problem I’ve experienced with FS Dongles, if you connect a dongle to a computer too early (e.g. before JAWS is installed), then install JAWS, the Dongle will work absolutely fine. However, Windows will offer you a driver update for the Dongle. If you install that update, the Dongle will stop working and you’ll have a lot of troubleshooting to do before things start working again. Also of course on something like a Macbook Pro, if it is a current model, you’ll only have one USB port to work with (given the Dongle will take up the other one). That’s rather unfortunate. While repairing the Boot Camp support software is not exactly a normal part of using the computer that most people will have to do, Apple does roll out updates to the software from time to time which a lot of users will want to take advantage of. While I don’t have first hand knowledge of this, I suspect those updates will throw off the activation as well. Cheers, Grant On Aug 31, 2014, at 12:45 PM, M. Taylor mk...@ucla.edu mailto:mk...@ucla.edu wrote: Hello Grant, I am so sorry you are having this problem but thank you so much for sharing your insights. How does one go about uninstalling the Jaws Intercept video drivers? I was thinking about setting up Windows 7 on my MacBook Pro but, after reading your post, perhaps I'll rethink this. Thanks again, Mark -Original Message- From: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com mailto:macvisionaries@googlegroups.com [mailto:macvisionaries@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of Grant Hardy Sent: Saturday, August 30, 2014 8:04 PM To: MacVisionaries List Subject: A few issues with Boot Camp, and a heads-up for users of JAWS Hello all, I encountered Wi-Fi issues on a late 2013 Retina Macbook Pro while running Windows 8.1 professional via Boot Camp. I therefore decided to do some troubleshooting. Really the only troubleshooting suggestion I could find apart from erasing my Windows partition and starting from scratch was to repair the Boot Camp support software. I tried to do this but got errors saying that the installer could not complete and to try it again at a later time. Upon doing some research, I discovered that at least a few people got these errors who had third-party video drivers installed, and therefore the fix was to temporarily uninstall all third-party video devices, repair the Boot Camp installation, then reinstall them. As you probably know, JAWS does in fact install a video driver to assist with screen reading, so I uninstalled it temporarily and sure enough, this was the fix. The Boot Camp installer was able to run at that point and repaired the support software. Unfortunately, it seems that uninstalling the Freedom Scientific Video Intercept drivers triggered my JAWS activation to be lost. Clearly this should not have happened, but I've encountered many situations where this has happened to JAWS over the years for fairly minor system tweaks, or even smaller things such as turning off the Wi-Fi switch on a laptop, and occasionally you can fix the problem by putting things back to
Re: A Question About App Delete
If you want more try Clean My Mac. $34.99 or so but worth it for what it does. Christopher Hallsworth Student at the Hadley School for the Blind www.hadley.edu On 02/09/2014 20:46, jeffrey greene wrote: Hi app delete will get rid of all parts of an app including preference panes etc. You can get it for $7.99 from reggieashworth.com. And, its accessible with VO. Hope this helps, Jeff On Sep 2, 2014, at 2:41 PM, BobH. long.c...@virgin.net wrote: As a point of interest, what is it's purpose, we've been discussing two ways of deleting apps lately, so would like to know what benefit an app would have over the system methods discussed. Thanks, Rh. - Original Message - From: M. Taylor mk...@ucla.edu To: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com Sent: Tuesday, September 02, 2014 7:35 PM Subject: A Question About App Delete Hello Jeff and Everyone,, A sighted friend of mine raves about how much he loves App Delete. I take it from your post, that App Delete is accessible via VoiceOver, right? From where does one get this app? Is it free? If not, how muchg does it cost. Mark -Original Message- From: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com [mailto:macvisionaries@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of jeff `greene Sent: Tuesday, September 02, 2014 6:15 AM To: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com Subject: Re: introduction and a question Hi Mike, I ended up removing the ap with app delete. I might try re-installing it later. Thanks, Jeff On 9/1/14, Mike Arrigo n0...@charter.net wrote: It installs in the status menu, you will need to move to the status menu, then use the voiceover keys to find the icon, although I also had this problem and could not find the application last time I tried it as well. On Sep 1, 2014, at 2:47 PM, jeff `greene greenebo...@gmail.com wrote: Hi I'm Jeff and i just joined this email list. I'm kind of a slider going between mac and windows, although I haven't had a mac for three years. I just bought a like-new 2012 macbook pro 15-inch, so I thought I would subscribe to this list. Ok on to my question: I installed SMC fan control. It was highly recommended on applevis.com, but now that it has been installed and launched for the first time I can't find it. On first launch system control asked if it was ok for SMC to make system changes, and I hit the ok button. It is supposed to live in the menu bar but its not there. If i go to the apps folder and hit open on it nothing happens. Anybody have any suggestions? Thanks, Jeff -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups MacVisionaries group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups MacVisionaries group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups MacVisionaries group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups MacVisionaries group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups MacVisionaries group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups MacVisionaries group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries. For more
read receipt
Hi all, I think I've seen a setting to have a read receipt on all emails. I don't want that but does anyone know of a way in mail to request a read receipt on an individual email? Thanks in advance, Gabe -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups MacVisionaries group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout.
Re: read receipt
I haven't seen such an option so where can I find this? Christopher Hallsworth Student at the Hadley School for the Blind www.hadley.edu On 02/09/2014 21:28, Gabe Griffith wrote: Hi all, I think I've seen a setting to have a read receipt on all emails. I don't want that but does anyone know of a way in mail to request a read receipt on an individual email? Thanks in advance, Gabe -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups MacVisionaries group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout.
Re: read receipt
Maybe I'm just getting confused with outlook since I switch back and forth. I use a mac in my personal life and windows at work. I guess my question should be to ask if the mail app has any mechanism for requesting a read receipt on an email. Gabe On Sep 2, 2014, at 1:29 PM, Christopher Hallsworth challswor...@icloud.com wrote: I haven't seen such an option so where can I find this? Christopher Hallsworth Student at the Hadley School for the Blind www.hadley.edu On 02/09/2014 21:28, Gabe Griffith wrote: Hi all, I think I've seen a setting to have a read receipt on all emails. I don't want that but does anyone know of a way in mail to request a read receipt on an individual email? Thanks in advance, Gabe -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups MacVisionaries group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups MacVisionaries group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout.
Re: read receipt
Mail.app supports neither delivery status notifications (delivery receipts) nor disposition notifications (read receipts). Sorry. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups MacVisionaries group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout.
Re: A Question About App Delete
Hi, What are the differences between Clean my mac and Appdelete? I use the latter and think it's ok but am open to new app suggestions. /Krister 2 sep 2014 kl. 22:23 skrev Christopher Hallsworth challswor...@icloud.com: If you want more try Clean My Mac. $34.99 or so but worth it for what it does. Christopher Hallsworth Student at the Hadley School for the Blind www.hadley.edu On 02/09/2014 20:46, jeffrey greene wrote: Hi app delete will get rid of all parts of an app including preference panes etc. You can get it for $7.99 from reggieashworth.com. And, its accessible with VO. Hope this helps, Jeff On Sep 2, 2014, at 2:41 PM, BobH. long.c...@virgin.net wrote: As a point of interest, what is it's purpose, we've been discussing two ways of deleting apps lately, so would like to know what benefit an app would have over the system methods discussed. Thanks, Rh. - Original Message - From: M. Taylor mk...@ucla.edu To: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com Sent: Tuesday, September 02, 2014 7:35 PM Subject: A Question About App Delete Hello Jeff and Everyone,, A sighted friend of mine raves about how much he loves App Delete. I take it from your post, that App Delete is accessible via VoiceOver, right? From where does one get this app? Is it free? If not, how muchg does it cost. Mark -Original Message- From: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com [mailto:macvisionaries@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of jeff `greene Sent: Tuesday, September 02, 2014 6:15 AM To: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com Subject: Re: introduction and a question Hi Mike, I ended up removing the ap with app delete. I might try re-installing it later. Thanks, Jeff On 9/1/14, Mike Arrigo n0...@charter.net wrote: It installs in the status menu, you will need to move to the status menu, then use the voiceover keys to find the icon, although I also had this problem and could not find the application last time I tried it as well. On Sep 1, 2014, at 2:47 PM, jeff `greene greenebo...@gmail.com wrote: Hi I'm Jeff and i just joined this email list. I'm kind of a slider going between mac and windows, although I haven't had a mac for three years. I just bought a like-new 2012 macbook pro 15-inch, so I thought I would subscribe to this list. Ok on to my question: I installed SMC fan control. It was highly recommended on applevis.com, but now that it has been installed and launched for the first time I can't find it. On first launch system control asked if it was ok for SMC to make system changes, and I hit the ok button. It is supposed to live in the menu bar but its not there. If i go to the apps folder and hit open on it nothing happens. Anybody have any suggestions? Thanks, Jeff -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups MacVisionaries group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups MacVisionaries group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups MacVisionaries group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups MacVisionaries group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups MacVisionaries group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout. -- You received this message because you
Bootcamp Update and Yosemite Release
Hello, I decided to start a new thread, so I don't get OT with this. Here's my situation and my concerns that I may need to update the bootcamp drivers in the future. Although I have a 2013 MBA, I purchased it before Mavericks was released. Hence, My OS is ML. I did update and ran the current bootcamp drivers (confirmed by Apple support) when installing Win 8.0. Now, in a short few weeks, Yosemite will be launched. Will I need to update the bootcamp drivers at that point and will I need to reinstall Win 8.1 again? This was a very daunting task the first time around. The post now turns to JAWS. I am using the current build of JAWS 15. Where do I go to find the Dongle viewer tool in JAWS 15? I know that the Dongles that I have are for earlier versions, but I don't know how far back. Aren't the license for the Dongles the same as the license number for ones JAWS product? I know there are many who are using bootcamp on the list, and I just want to prepare myself for the next release of the OS and not be caught off guard after I do the update to Yosemite. Thanks. Best, Eileen Sent from my iPhone -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups MacVisionaries group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout.
Re: iMessages drive me nuts sometimes!
Phew, thank you both! I just went in and tweaked my settings. The key for me seemed to be make it look like my Mac is sending from my phone number. I sware a long time ago, I had it set up like this and things were in sync nicely. *Shrugs,* fingers crossed this works out well. I have several iMessage contacts, but they are not all tech savvy. ;) Goodness, knows how they store my information. If I can keep it simple, all in 1 window, the better. BTW, a few minutes before typing this, I received a iMessage, it showed up on my Mac/iPhone simultaneously. Very nice! My reply to the message appeared on both devices as well. Traci On Sep 2, 2014, at 12:24 PM, Alex Hall mehg...@icloud.com wrote: The people I iMessage have all my email addresses and my phone number stored in the same contact on their devices. This way, all messages always come from me, no matter what. Of course, I have very few iMessage contacts - most people use Android and/or Windows, so this isn't an issue for me. Either way, hopefully this fixes the OP's problem. On Sep 2, 2014, at 3:21 PM, Tim Kilburn kilbu...@me.com wrote: Hi, Further to what Alex has mentioned, I usually set my iPhone and Mac to only use my phone number. That is, when I send messages from my Mac, it appears to the receiver that I've sent it from my phone. By doing this, all messages from me will stay within the same thread, not showing up as coming from my Apple ID or some other address that I have registered to my Apple ID. So, using Alex's instructions, I would only have my iPhone number checked on each of my devices including my Mac. Later... Tim Kilburn Fort McMurray, AB Canada On Sep 2, 2014, at 12:35 PM, Alex Hall mehg...@icloud.com wrote: It sounds like you don't have all your devices set p to receive from all your addresses and numbers. On iOS, go to Settings Messages, and find the place near the bottom where all the emails and numbers tied to your Apple ID are. Make sure they are all selected. On the Mac, go to the Messages app, then Preferences Accounts tab. Select your iMessages account in the table, select the Settings tab, and find the table right after you can be reached for iMessages at text. Check everything you want in there as well. On both devices, also check that the send as is where you want it. This sets which email or number is used when you start a new conversation with anyone. It is in the same place as where you enabled everything in the above steps. On Sep 2, 2014, at 2:30 PM, Traci Duncan our4p...@gmail.com wrote: Hi all, Am I doing something wrong, or is there a flaw in the concept. iMessages on Mac iOS don't seem to sync up. If I message people on my Mac, it opens a second message window on their iDevice. All of their replies go to my Mac. I think I assumed I could start a conversation on my Mac, then continue it later on my phone. It's great to message folks via my Mac, but I've found so many replies getting lost, because friends don't realize or forget there are 2 message windows. Any suggestions? Is this the way it is designed? Thanks, Traci -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups MacVisionaries group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout. -- Have a great day, Alex Hall mehg...@icloud.com -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups MacVisionaries group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups MacVisionaries group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout. -- Have a great day, Alex Hall mehg...@icloud.com -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups MacVisionaries group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries. For
Re: iMessages drive me nuts sometimes!
Glad it's working. Fair warning: even though my messages sync up like yours now do, I sometimes find that the Mac won't get messages for a while. My phone always does, but I might need to close and re-open messages, or send a message to someone, or even restart the computer, before Messages on the Mac starts syncing properly again. I have no idea what causes this, and no single, reliable fix. It is rare, but be warned that it can happen. On Sep 2, 2014, at 4:44 PM, Traci Duncan our4p...@gmail.com wrote: Phew, thank you both! I just went in and tweaked my settings. The key for me seemed to be make it look like my Mac is sending from my phone number. I sware a long time ago, I had it set up like this and things were in sync nicely. *Shrugs,* fingers crossed this works out well. I have several iMessage contacts, but they are not all tech savvy. ;) Goodness, knows how they store my information. If I can keep it simple, all in 1 window, the better. BTW, a few minutes before typing this, I received a iMessage, it showed up on my Mac/iPhone simultaneously. Very nice! My reply to the message appeared on both devices as well. Traci On Sep 2, 2014, at 12:24 PM, Alex Hall mehg...@icloud.com wrote: The people I iMessage have all my email addresses and my phone number stored in the same contact on their devices. This way, all messages always come from me, no matter what. Of course, I have very few iMessage contacts - most people use Android and/or Windows, so this isn't an issue for me. Either way, hopefully this fixes the OP's problem. On Sep 2, 2014, at 3:21 PM, Tim Kilburn kilbu...@me.com wrote: Hi, Further to what Alex has mentioned, I usually set my iPhone and Mac to only use my phone number. That is, when I send messages from my Mac, it appears to the receiver that I've sent it from my phone. By doing this, all messages from me will stay within the same thread, not showing up as coming from my Apple ID or some other address that I have registered to my Apple ID. So, using Alex's instructions, I would only have my iPhone number checked on each of my devices including my Mac. Later... Tim Kilburn Fort McMurray, AB Canada On Sep 2, 2014, at 12:35 PM, Alex Hall mehg...@icloud.com wrote: It sounds like you don't have all your devices set p to receive from all your addresses and numbers. On iOS, go to Settings Messages, and find the place near the bottom where all the emails and numbers tied to your Apple ID are. Make sure they are all selected. On the Mac, go to the Messages app, then Preferences Accounts tab. Select your iMessages account in the table, select the Settings tab, and find the table right after you can be reached for iMessages at text. Check everything you want in there as well. On both devices, also check that the send as is where you want it. This sets which email or number is used when you start a new conversation with anyone. It is in the same place as where you enabled everything in the above steps. On Sep 2, 2014, at 2:30 PM, Traci Duncan our4p...@gmail.com wrote: Hi all, Am I doing something wrong, or is there a flaw in the concept. iMessages on Mac iOS don't seem to sync up. If I message people on my Mac, it opens a second message window on their iDevice. All of their replies go to my Mac. I think I assumed I could start a conversation on my Mac, then continue it later on my phone. It's great to message folks via my Mac, but I've found so many replies getting lost, because friends don't realize or forget there are 2 message windows. Any suggestions? Is this the way it is designed? Thanks, Traci -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups MacVisionaries group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout. -- Have a great day, Alex Hall mehg...@icloud.com -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups MacVisionaries group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups MacVisionaries group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at
Re: reading without pause
i tried reading again with read all gesture, it read pauses every line and sentences. it's so awfull to here some pauses between the word THE and others. it's not nice to here, so i want the voice over to speak without pauses. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups MacVisionaries group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout.
Re: reading without pause
VoiceOver pauses at new line characters. Check your text for these. The Mac considers a new line to be a paragraph break, but often, documents created using Windows has these extra new line characters all over the place. Cheers, Anne On 2 Sep 2014, at 22:55, Dionipher Presas Herrera dionip...@gmail.com wrote: i tried reading again with read all gesture, it read pauses every line and sentences. it's so awfull to here some pauses between the word THE and others. it's not nice to here, so i want the voice over to speak without pauses. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups MacVisionaries group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups MacVisionaries group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout.
Re: read receipt
By default it does not. I worked out a way to do this but haven't done it in a while and don't know if it works now since we've been through some OS changes since then. It's probably still in the archives but I won't post it again unless/until I find it and test it to see if it still works. -- Cheryl I tried and tried to turn over a new leaf. I got crumpled wads of tear-stained paper thrown in the trash! Then God gave me a new heart and life: His joy for my despairing tears! And now, every day: This I call to mind, and therefore I have hope: The steadfast love of the Lord never ceases; his mercies never come to an end; they are new every morning; great is your faithfulness. (Lamentations 3:21-23 ESV) On Sep 2, 2014, at 3:33 PM, Gabe Griffith gabrielgriff...@gmail.com wrote: Maybe I'm just getting confused with outlook since I switch back and forth. I use a mac in my personal life and windows at work. I guess my question should be to ask if the mail app has any mechanism for requesting a read receipt on an email. Gabe On Sep 2, 2014, at 1:29 PM, Christopher Hallsworth challswor...@icloud.com wrote: I haven't seen such an option so where can I find this? Christopher Hallsworth Student at the Hadley School for the Blind www.hadley.edu On 02/09/2014 21:28, Gabe Griffith wrote: Hi all, I think I've seen a setting to have a read receipt on all emails. I don't want that but does anyone know of a way in mail to request a read receipt on an individual email? Thanks in advance, Gabe -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups MacVisionaries group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups MacVisionaries group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups MacVisionaries group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout.
Louis Braille translator version 3
A new version of the Louis Braille translator for MacOS X has been released and can be downloaded from the following URL: http://www.cbtbc.org/louis/index.php This version now works with the latest MacOS and should work in future version. PLease note the instructions found on the download page for use. Commonwealth Braille Talking Book Cooperative 605 Robson Street, Suite 850 Vancouver BC V6B 5J3 CANADA Email: i...@cbtbc.org -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups MacVisionaries group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout.
Re: read receipt
As far as I know, the Apple Mail app does not in itself have any option to do read receipts either individually or for all mail but I could be wrong. The one I did could be turned on or off as I recall but it's been a long time. -- Cheryl I tried and tried to turn over a new leaf. I got crumpled wads of tear-stained paper thrown in the trash! Then God gave me a new heart and life: His joy for my despairing tears! And now, every day: This I call to mind, and therefore I have hope: The steadfast love of the Lord never ceases; his mercies never come to an end; they are new every morning; great is your faithfulness. (Lamentations 3:21-23 ESV) On Sep 2, 2014, at 3:28 PM, Gabe Griffith gabrielgriff...@gmail.com wrote: Hi all, I think I've seen a setting to have a read receipt on all emails. I don't want that but does anyone know of a way in mail to request a read receipt on an individual email? Thanks in advance, Gabe -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups MacVisionaries group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups MacVisionaries group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout.
Re: Louis Braille translator version 3
I'm going to try this and see if it now will handle Spanish correctly. I've been compiling and using Louis instead but it would be nice to use the package. -- Cheryl I tried and tried to turn over a new leaf. I got crumpled wads of tear-stained paper thrown in the trash! Then God gave me a new heart and life: His joy for my despairing tears! And now, every day: This I call to mind, and therefore I have hope: The steadfast love of the Lord never ceases; his mercies never come to an end; they are new every morning; great is your faithfulness. (Lamentations 3:21-23 ESV) On Sep 2, 2014, at 4:01 PM, Greg Kearney gkear...@gmail.com wrote: A new version of the Louis Braille translator for MacOS X has been released and can be downloaded from the following URL: http://www.cbtbc.org/louis/index.php This version now works with the latest MacOS and should work in future version. PLease note the instructions found on the download page for use. Commonwealth Braille Talking Book Cooperative 605 Robson Street, Suite 850 Vancouver BC V6B 5J3 CANADA Email: i...@cbtbc.org -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups MacVisionaries group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups MacVisionaries group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout.
Re: A few issues with Boot Camp, and a heads-up for users of JAWS
No its a MBP MacBook Pro, as I stated. From The Believer. . . What if it were true? ancient.ali...@icloud.com On 9/2/2014 1:00 PM, Kevin Barry wrote: If you have only one USB port I suspect you have an Air, not a Pro. At 01:46 PM 9/2/2014, you wrote: My MBP is mid 2012 and only one USB port. From The Believer. . . What if it were true? ancient.ali...@icloud.com On 9/2/2014 7:13 AM, 'Chris Blouch' via MacVisionaries wrote: Hmm. I don't recall any MacBook Pros that had less than two USB ports. On the non-retina models there are two on the left edge. On the newer non-CD Retina models there is one on both the left and right sides. CB On 8/31/14, 6:05 PM, Grant Hardy wrote: Hi Mark, Go ahead and set up Windows 7 and JAWS on your MBP if that's what you want to do. :) I doubt you'll have any difficulties. I only had trouble because I was following specific troubleshooting steps. I removed the JAWS and Window-Eyes video drivers from the Device Manager, with intent to repair them later. In retrospect, I suppose I should have uninstalled Freedom Scientific Video Intercept from the Programs and Features panel in Control Panel, but there is no guarantee that this would have made any difference. In any case, I was quite taken aback that this would have totally deactivated JAWS. Dongles have their fair share of problems too, but are definitely a little more fail safe. Just a random example of a problem I've experienced with FS Dongles, if you connect a dongle to a computer too early (e.g. before JAWS is installed), then install JAWS, the Dongle will work absolutely fine. However, Windows will offer you a driver update for the Dongle. If you install that update, the Dongle will stop working and you'll have a lot of troubleshooting to do before things start working again. Also of course on something like a Macbook Pro, if it is a current model, you'll only have one USB port to work with (given the Dongle will take up the other one). That's rather unfortunate. While repairing the Boot Camp support software is not exactly a normal part of using the computer that most people will have to do, Apple does roll out updates to the software from time to time which a lot of users will want to take advantage of. While I don't have first hand knowledge of this, I suspect those updates will throw off the activation as well. Cheers, Grant On Aug 31, 2014, at 12:45 PM, M. Taylor mk...@ucla.edu mailto:mk...@ucla.edu wrote: Hello Grant, I am so sorry you are having this problem but thank you so much for sharing your insights. How does one go about uninstalling the Jaws Intercept video drivers? I was thinking about setting up Windows 7 on my MacBook Pro but, after reading your post, perhaps I'll rethink this. Thanks again, Mark -Original Message- From: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com mailto:macvisionaries@googlegroups.com [mailto:macvisionaries@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of Grant Hardy Sent: Saturday, August 30, 2014 8:04 PM To: MacVisionaries List Subject: A few issues with Boot Camp, and a heads-up for users of JAWS Hello all, I encountered Wi-Fi issues on a late 2013 Retina Macbook Pro while running Windows 8.1 professional via Boot Camp. I therefore decided to do some troubleshooting. Really the only troubleshooting suggestion I could find apart from erasing my Windows partition and starting from scratch was to repair the Boot Camp support software. I tried to do this but got errors saying that the installer could not complete and to try it again at a later time. Upon doing some research, I discovered that at least a few people got these errors who had third-party video drivers installed, and therefore the fix was to temporarily uninstall all third-party video devices, repair the Boot Camp installation, then reinstall them. As you probably know, JAWS does in fact install a video driver to assist with screen reading, so I uninstalled it temporarily and sure enough, this was the fix. The Boot Camp installer was able to run at that point and repaired the support software. Unfortunately, it seems that uninstalling the Freedom Scientific Video Intercept drivers triggered my JAWS activation to be lost. Clearly this should not have happened, but I've encountered many situations where this has happened to JAWS over the years for fairly minor system tweaks, or even smaller things such as turning off the Wi-Fi switch on a laptop, and occasionally you can fix the problem by putting things back to the way they were. I hoped that reinstalling the Video Intercept drivers would have re-activated my copy of JAWS, but it did not. This feels like a bug, and I think users of JAWS should be aware that if they are going to repair or update their Boot Camp Support Software, it is likely that they will lose their activation. Since Apple does post updates to the support software from time to time, I think this is something to keep in mind. On another note my Wi-Fi issues are unfortunately not resolved.
Re: Bootcamp Update and Yosemite Release
In general when installing an upgrade to Os X, I would see no reason why you should have to reinstall Windows as long as you aren't using a non-standard disk partition configuration on your Mac (e.g. you manually modified the partition configuration after installing Windows via Boot Camp). I don't think updates to the Support Software are mandatory, either, though sometimes they provide fixes to possible security issues. In any case, I believe the Dongle Viewer is located in the JAWS window under the Utilities menu. If your Dongle requires an update, you'll have to contact Freedom Scientific.. I wouldn't worry too much if I were you and things are currently working fine. I had to do some troubleshooting and things didn't go as expected, that's all. It's an irritant, definitely, but it's not as though you will permanently lose access to JAWS. If you telephone Freedom Scientific when any issue comes up, I am sure they will help you put it right. :) While it's obviously important to backup your data before installing any kind of upgrade, chances are things should go just fine. Note: I have only installed a minor upgrade to OS X as my computer came preinstalled with OS X Mavericks, but this information is based on extensive reading on the Apple Support website. I'm sure others will chime in if they have different experiences. Grant On Sep 2, 2014, at 1:43 PM, Eileen Misrahi eileen.misr...@gmail.com wrote: Hello, I decided to start a new thread, so I don't get OT with this. Here's my situation and my concerns that I may need to update the bootcamp drivers in the future. Although I have a 2013 MBA, I purchased it before Mavericks was released. Hence, My OS is ML. I did update and ran the current bootcamp drivers (confirmed by Apple support) when installing Win 8.0. Now, in a short few weeks, Yosemite will be launched. Will I need to update the bootcamp drivers at that point and will I need to reinstall Win 8.1 again? This was a very daunting task the first time around. The post now turns to JAWS. I am using the current build of JAWS 15. Where do I go to find the Dongle viewer tool in JAWS 15? I know that the Dongles that I have are for earlier versions, but I don't know how far back. Aren't the license for the Dongles the same as the license number for ones JAWS product? I know there are many who are using bootcamp on the list, and I just want to prepare myself for the next release of the OS and not be caught off guard after I do the update to Yosemite. Thanks. Best, Eileen Sent from my iPhone -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups MacVisionaries group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups MacVisionaries group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout.
Re: Bootcamp Update and Yosemite Release
All I'll say here is to keep NVDA installed, and make sure you can bring it up. It won't help you if you have to re-install Windows (and, as Grant said, there's no reason you would need to do that), but if Jaws gets fussy and quits on you, NVDA will at least be sure you aren't without speech until you can get things fixed. Anyone who uses one screen reader should really have a second installed and ready, just in case, especially when the primary one is something as finicky about system changes as Jaws can be. On Sep 2, 2014, at 5:20 PM, Grant Hardy grantha...@outlook.com wrote: In general when installing an upgrade to Os X, I would see no reason why you should have to reinstall Windows as long as you aren't using a non-standard disk partition configuration on your Mac (e.g. you manually modified the partition configuration after installing Windows via Boot Camp). I don't think updates to the Support Software are mandatory, either, though sometimes they provide fixes to possible security issues. In any case, I believe the Dongle Viewer is located in the JAWS window under the Utilities menu. If your Dongle requires an update, you'll have to contact Freedom Scientific.. I wouldn't worry too much if I were you and things are currently working fine. I had to do some troubleshooting and things didn't go as expected, that's all. It's an irritant, definitely, but it's not as though you will permanently lose access to JAWS. If you telephone Freedom Scientific when any issue comes up, I am sure they will help you put it right. :) While it's obviously important to backup your data before installing any kind of upgrade, chances are things should go just fine. Note: I have only installed a minor upgrade to OS X as my computer came preinstalled with OS X Mavericks, but this information is based on extensive reading on the Apple Support website. I'm sure others will chime in if they have different experiences. Grant On Sep 2, 2014, at 1:43 PM, Eileen Misrahi eileen.misr...@gmail.com wrote: Hello, I decided to start a new thread, so I don't get OT with this. Here's my situation and my concerns that I may need to update the bootcamp drivers in the future. Although I have a 2013 MBA, I purchased it before Mavericks was released. Hence, My OS is ML. I did update and ran the current bootcamp drivers (confirmed by Apple support) when installing Win 8.0. Now, in a short few weeks, Yosemite will be launched. Will I need to update the bootcamp drivers at that point and will I need to reinstall Win 8.1 again? This was a very daunting task the first time around. The post now turns to JAWS. I am using the current build of JAWS 15. Where do I go to find the Dongle viewer tool in JAWS 15? I know that the Dongles that I have are for earlier versions, but I don't know how far back. Aren't the license for the Dongles the same as the license number for ones JAWS product? I know there are many who are using bootcamp on the list, and I just want to prepare myself for the next release of the OS and not be caught off guard after I do the update to Yosemite. Thanks. Best, Eileen Sent from my iPhone -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups MacVisionaries group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups MacVisionaries group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout. -- Have a great day, Alex Hall mehg...@icloud.com -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups MacVisionaries group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout.
Receipts: Requesting, turning on and off, responding to those sent to you
Tested and modified in MacOS 10.9 Mavericks: September 2 2014
This still works but you have to do all the steps before you can test it. Also
be aware that it is possible for the return receipt request to be seen before
the actual email, at least when testing it on myself. I've only tested it on
myself and don't know whether or not anybody else has actually used it.
I've been working on this receipts issue and I'll try to lay out what I've
done. I am now able to request receipts, reply to a request for a receipt (only
tested on sending to myself), check to see if requesting receipts is turned on
and off, and turn requesting receipts on and off.
Disclaimer: I'm not responsible if you accidentally delete already existing
email headers or have other problems with email, terminal or anything else on
your computer or in your life :-) while doing this, though of course I'll be
willing to help troubleshoot if you post problems to the list. This is my first
draft and though I've looked through it for errors, there's certainly the
possibility - the overwhelming probability! - I've made some. So if in doubt,
check things over, ask questions, and do your own research. The links where I
got most of this information are at the bottom of this email, just above my
signature. There are plenty of people on this list who will spot errors and
probably find easier ways to do this. I didn't attempt to include in-depth
instruction about terminal or applescripts. None of what is written here is
original with me.
Mac OS version: These instructions are specifically for Mountain Lion. They may
be used in earlier releases of Mac OS but there will be differences. For
instance, there have been changes in the location of applescript folders in
Mountain Lion.
Before we start, a note about copying and pasting: Be careful to get all the
content as there are apostrophes, braces, semicolons, etc. that really are a
part of the line to be copied and pasted. If you copy a line by doing
shift-down-arrow, this could result in the line being put in terminal and enter
being executed before you have a chance to check the line, so if you want to be
able to check what you've done, highlight from left to right, making sure you
include everything. I know that working with terminal can be a challenge with
voiceover; I have the benefit of a braillelite with brltty in Terminal so if
you have problems, do some research and/or ask for help on the list. Also, I
will be referring to the return/enter key as enter. Those with older Macs may
have both, but it's my understanding that all the newer keyboards now just have
return. But I don't want to have to write return/enter all the time and the
term enter seems to get used more though they are not identical and the key
on most Macs is now really return, so if you have both and one doesn't work,
try the other.
Step 1. Checking for headers:
Since sending receipt requests involves adding something to your email headers,
first you want to check to see whether you presently have any custom headers
and what they are. This is done with one line that you can paste into terminal
and then press enter. The line is:
defaults read com.apple.mail UserHeaders
Step 2. Enabling request receipts for the first time
Note: it is possible to just wait and do this with the applescripts in Step 3
but it may be better to do it this way the first time to ensure that there are
no problems.
A. If in Step 1 you get something like:
The domain/default pair of (com.apple.mail, UserHeaders) does not exist:
that means you don't have any custom headers. If that is the case, things are
simpler because you have nothing you have to keep from deleting. In that case,
type or paste the following line in terminal, replacing Name with your name and
email.address with your email address:
defaults write com.apple.mail UserHeaders '{Disposition-Notification-To =
Name email@address; }'
You shouldn't see any results from this line's entry. You can check to make
sure the Disposition-Notification-To header was added by running the line in
step 1 again. If these are the only lines you have just done in terminal, you
can easily get back up to the first entry from step 1 by arrowing up twice in
terminal. You won't hurt anything if you accidentally do the line from this
step over but you won't see any results.
But I am showing it here again for your convenience also.
defaults read com.apple.mail UserHeaders
You won't have to type or paste to turn this on and off each time as we will be
using apple scripts or other alternatives for that. Skip to step 3 if you
completed 2A successfully.
2B. If the line you entered in Terminal in step 1 gives you something that has
a line with a left brace and the beginning and a right brace at the end, it
means that you do have some custom headers which you may not want to delete in
the process of adding what you need to generate receipt requests. Here's an
example
Re: Bootcamp Update and Yosemite Release
Hello, Thanks for the advise. Currently, I only have JAWS 15 installed. I was trying to keep only the PC apps that were absolutely necessary to run my business from home. Do you know how large the NVDA application is? Thanks. Eileen On Sep 2, 2014, at 2:24 PM, Alex Hall mehg...@icloud.com wrote: All I'll say here is to keep NVDA installed, and make sure you can bring it up. It won't help you if you have to re-install Windows (and, as Grant said, there's no reason you would need to do that), but if Jaws gets fussy and quits on you, NVDA will at least be sure you aren't without speech until you can get things fixed. Anyone who uses one screen reader should really have a second installed and ready, just in case, especially when the primary one is something as finicky about system changes as Jaws can be. On Sep 2, 2014, at 5:20 PM, Grant Hardy grantha...@outlook.com wrote: In general when installing an upgrade to Os X, I would see no reason why you should have to reinstall Windows as long as you aren't using a non-standard disk partition configuration on your Mac (e.g. you manually modified the partition configuration after installing Windows via Boot Camp). I don't think updates to the Support Software are mandatory, either, though sometimes they provide fixes to possible security issues. In any case, I believe the Dongle Viewer is located in the JAWS window under the Utilities menu. If your Dongle requires an update, you'll have to contact Freedom Scientific.. I wouldn't worry too much if I were you and things are currently working fine. I had to do some troubleshooting and things didn't go as expected, that's all. It's an irritant, definitely, but it's not as though you will permanently lose access to JAWS. If you telephone Freedom Scientific when any issue comes up, I am sure they will help you put it right. :) While it's obviously important to backup your data before installing any kind of upgrade, chances are things should go just fine. Note: I have only installed a minor upgrade to OS X as my computer came preinstalled with OS X Mavericks, but this information is based on extensive reading on the Apple Support website. I'm sure others will chime in if they have different experiences. Grant On Sep 2, 2014, at 1:43 PM, Eileen Misrahi eileen.misr...@gmail.com wrote: Hello, I decided to start a new thread, so I don't get OT with this. Here's my situation and my concerns that I may need to update the bootcamp drivers in the future. Although I have a 2013 MBA, I purchased it before Mavericks was released. Hence, My OS is ML. I did update and ran the current bootcamp drivers (confirmed by Apple support) when installing Win 8.0. Now, in a short few weeks, Yosemite will be launched. Will I need to update the bootcamp drivers at that point and will I need to reinstall Win 8.1 again? This was a very daunting task the first time around. The post now turns to JAWS. I am using the current build of JAWS 15. Where do I go to find the Dongle viewer tool in JAWS 15? I know that the Dongles that I have are for earlier versions, but I don't know how far back. Aren't the license for the Dongles the same as the license number for ones JAWS product? I know there are many who are using bootcamp on the list, and I just want to prepare myself for the next release of the OS and not be caught off guard after I do the update to Yosemite. Thanks. Best, Eileen Sent from my iPhone -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups MacVisionaries group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups MacVisionaries group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout. -- Have a great day, Alex Hall mehg...@icloud.com -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups MacVisionaries group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups
Re: read receipt
The problem with adding headers and running scripts in response to headers is that it's not very flexible. You can't respond on a message-by-message basis to requests, and if you happen to have multiple accounts, you can't send out a request from the correct one. This point is important, since RFC 2298 says that a person who receives a request must validate that the return path and request address match. It really is a hack. And DSN (delivery receipt) is impossible, because you've got to add parameters to the SMTP commands to make that work. What we *really* need is an alternative to Mail.app that supports MDN and DSN. :) -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups MacVisionaries group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout.
Re: Bootcamp Update and Yosemite Release
Hello, I don't remember the exact size but it is extremely light and minimal. If you don't ask it to run at the logon screen or after you log in, then I don't think it installs anything other than a folder in the Program Files directory as well as a folder for user settings in each user account that runs NVDA. If you don't run it, it shouldn't take up any system resources other than a negligible amount of space. Now, this being said, even if you lose your JAWS activation, JAWS will run in 40-minute demo mode. Still, I agree with Alex that having multiple screen readers, for troubleshooting purposes, is best. Grant On Sep 2, 2014, at 3:58 PM, Eileen Misrahi eileen.misr...@gmail.com wrote: Hello, Thanks for the advise. Currently, I only have JAWS 15 installed. I was trying to keep only the PC apps that were absolutely necessary to run my business from home. Do you know how large the NVDA application is? Thanks. Eileen On Sep 2, 2014, at 2:24 PM, Alex Hall mehg...@icloud.com wrote: All I'll say here is to keep NVDA installed, and make sure you can bring it up. It won't help you if you have to re-install Windows (and, as Grant said, there's no reason you would need to do that), but if Jaws gets fussy and quits on you, NVDA will at least be sure you aren't without speech until you can get things fixed. Anyone who uses one screen reader should really have a second installed and ready, just in case, especially when the primary one is something as finicky about system changes as Jaws can be. On Sep 2, 2014, at 5:20 PM, Grant Hardy grantha...@outlook.com wrote: In general when installing an upgrade to Os X, I would see no reason why you should have to reinstall Windows as long as you aren't using a non-standard disk partition configuration on your Mac (e.g. you manually modified the partition configuration after installing Windows via Boot Camp). I don't think updates to the Support Software are mandatory, either, though sometimes they provide fixes to possible security issues. In any case, I believe the Dongle Viewer is located in the JAWS window under the Utilities menu. If your Dongle requires an update, you'll have to contact Freedom Scientific.. I wouldn't worry too much if I were you and things are currently working fine. I had to do some troubleshooting and things didn't go as expected, that's all. It's an irritant, definitely, but it's not as though you will permanently lose access to JAWS. If you telephone Freedom Scientific when any issue comes up, I am sure they will help you put it right. :) While it's obviously important to backup your data before installing any kind of upgrade, chances are things should go just fine. Note: I have only installed a minor upgrade to OS X as my computer came preinstalled with OS X Mavericks, but this information is based on extensive reading on the Apple Support website. I'm sure others will chime in if they have different experiences. Grant On Sep 2, 2014, at 1:43 PM, Eileen Misrahi eileen.misr...@gmail.com wrote: Hello, I decided to start a new thread, so I don't get OT with this. Here's my situation and my concerns that I may need to update the bootcamp drivers in the future. Although I have a 2013 MBA, I purchased it before Mavericks was released. Hence, My OS is ML. I did update and ran the current bootcamp drivers (confirmed by Apple support) when installing Win 8.0. Now, in a short few weeks, Yosemite will be launched. Will I need to update the bootcamp drivers at that point and will I need to reinstall Win 8.1 again? This was a very daunting task the first time around. The post now turns to JAWS. I am using the current build of JAWS 15. Where do I go to find the Dongle viewer tool in JAWS 15? I know that the Dongles that I have are for earlier versions, but I don't know how far back. Aren't the license for the Dongles the same as the license number for ones JAWS product? I know there are many who are using bootcamp on the list, and I just want to prepare myself for the next release of the OS and not be caught off guard after I do the update to Yosemite. Thanks. Best, Eileen Sent from my iPhone -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups MacVisionaries group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups MacVisionaries group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to
Re: Bootcamp Update and Yosemite Release
The installer I downloaded the other day was around 17MB, compared to well over 100MB for Jaws. I don't know how big it expands to be, but yes, it is a very small size, all things considered. On Sep 2, 2014, at 7:28 PM, Grant Hardy grantha...@outlook.com wrote: Hello, I don't remember the exact size but it is extremely light and minimal. If you don't ask it to run at the logon screen or after you log in, then I don't think it installs anything other than a folder in the Program Files directory as well as a folder for user settings in each user account that runs NVDA. If you don't run it, it shouldn't take up any system resources other than a negligible amount of space. Now, this being said, even if you lose your JAWS activation, JAWS will run in 40-minute demo mode. Still, I agree with Alex that having multiple screen readers, for troubleshooting purposes, is best. Grant On Sep 2, 2014, at 3:58 PM, Eileen Misrahi eileen.misr...@gmail.com wrote: Hello, Thanks for the advise. Currently, I only have JAWS 15 installed. I was trying to keep only the PC apps that were absolutely necessary to run my business from home. Do you know how large the NVDA application is? Thanks. Eileen On Sep 2, 2014, at 2:24 PM, Alex Hall mehg...@icloud.com wrote: All I'll say here is to keep NVDA installed, and make sure you can bring it up. It won't help you if you have to re-install Windows (and, as Grant said, there's no reason you would need to do that), but if Jaws gets fussy and quits on you, NVDA will at least be sure you aren't without speech until you can get things fixed. Anyone who uses one screen reader should really have a second installed and ready, just in case, especially when the primary one is something as finicky about system changes as Jaws can be. On Sep 2, 2014, at 5:20 PM, Grant Hardy grantha...@outlook.com wrote: In general when installing an upgrade to Os X, I would see no reason why you should have to reinstall Windows as long as you aren't using a non-standard disk partition configuration on your Mac (e.g. you manually modified the partition configuration after installing Windows via Boot Camp). I don't think updates to the Support Software are mandatory, either, though sometimes they provide fixes to possible security issues. In any case, I believe the Dongle Viewer is located in the JAWS window under the Utilities menu. If your Dongle requires an update, you'll have to contact Freedom Scientific.. I wouldn't worry too much if I were you and things are currently working fine. I had to do some troubleshooting and things didn't go as expected, that's all. It's an irritant, definitely, but it's not as though you will permanently lose access to JAWS. If you telephone Freedom Scientific when any issue comes up, I am sure they will help you put it right. :) While it's obviously important to backup your data before installing any kind of upgrade, chances are things should go just fine. Note: I have only installed a minor upgrade to OS X as my computer came preinstalled with OS X Mavericks, but this information is based on extensive reading on the Apple Support website. I'm sure others will chime in if they have different experiences. Grant On Sep 2, 2014, at 1:43 PM, Eileen Misrahi eileen.misr...@gmail.com wrote: Hello, I decided to start a new thread, so I don't get OT with this. Here's my situation and my concerns that I may need to update the bootcamp drivers in the future. Although I have a 2013 MBA, I purchased it before Mavericks was released. Hence, My OS is ML. I did update and ran the current bootcamp drivers (confirmed by Apple support) when installing Win 8.0. Now, in a short few weeks, Yosemite will be launched. Will I need to update the bootcamp drivers at that point and will I need to reinstall Win 8.1 again? This was a very daunting task the first time around. The post now turns to JAWS. I am using the current build of JAWS 15. Where do I go to find the Dongle viewer tool in JAWS 15? I know that the Dongles that I have are for earlier versions, but I don't know how far back. Aren't the license for the Dongles the same as the license number for ones JAWS product? I know there are many who are using bootcamp on the list, and I just want to prepare myself for the next release of the OS and not be caught off guard after I do the update to Yosemite. Thanks. Best, Eileen Sent from my iPhone -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups MacVisionaries group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout. -- You received
Re: Mac mail problems and frustrations.
Hi Alex, Why would one need to copy The selected email address to the clipboard? Generally, any email address shows up as a link. Why can't one click on the link thereby opening a new email window proceeding with the note one wants to write? Pam Francis On Sep 1, 2014, at 10:08 AM, Anders Holmberg and...@pipkrokodil.se wrote: Hi! Ok. Thanks for your help. I'd thought your second answer would be the best. But i was just asking if there was an alternative way. Thanks. /A 1 sep 2014 kl. 16:07 skrev Alex Hall mehg...@icloud.com: 1. This happens in any app that uses an updating table - Mail, Twitter clients, anything. Currently, it cannot be changed or disabled, but please tell accessibil...@apple.com that you would like this to change. Maybe they'll do something about it soon. 2. The easiest way is to hit reply. That message will go to the whole list, unless the list is set up differently, but below where you type will be the original message. In there, on the first line, is the on [date], [name] [email address] wrote: line. That email address is the one you want; copy it to the clipboard, then make a new email message and paste the address into the to field. On Sep 1, 2014, at 9:57 AM, Anders Holmberg and...@pipkrokodil.se wrote: Hi! I have two things i need an answer for. First, how do i turn off the annoying message one row added and so on? Is this in the notice center? Second, how do i reply to a sender in a mailing list. Lets say i would like to answer someone on the blindapples list in a private mail. Can i find the persons email adress and then click on it and send a mail to him or her. /A -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups MacVisionaries group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout. -- Have a great day, Alex Hall mehg...@icloud.com -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups MacVisionaries group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups MacVisionaries group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups MacVisionaries group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout.
Re: Mac mail problems and frustrations.
Generally, yes. However, when you reply, nothing is turned into a link; if you read your reply later, the address will be a link, but in the message you are typing, it is just text. Perhaps others' experiences are different, or there is a setting I can change? It would certainly be easier to have links appear in messages I type, but I've never found that to happen. On Sep 2, 2014, at 7:36 PM, Pamela Francis gypsykitt...@gmail.com wrote: Hi Alex, Why would one need to copy The selected email address to the clipboard? Generally, any email address shows up as a link. Why can't one click on the link thereby opening a new email window proceeding with the note one wants to write? Pam Francis On Sep 1, 2014, at 10:08 AM, Anders Holmberg and...@pipkrokodil.se wrote: Hi! Ok. Thanks for your help. I'd thought your second answer would be the best. But i was just asking if there was an alternative way. Thanks. /A 1 sep 2014 kl. 16:07 skrev Alex Hall mehg...@icloud.com: 1. This happens in any app that uses an updating table - Mail, Twitter clients, anything. Currently, it cannot be changed or disabled, but please tell accessibil...@apple.com that you would like this to change. Maybe they'll do something about it soon. 2. The easiest way is to hit reply. That message will go to the whole list, unless the list is set up differently, but below where you type will be the original message. In there, on the first line, is the on [date], [name] [email address] wrote: line. That email address is the one you want; copy it to the clipboard, then make a new email message and paste the address into the to field. On Sep 1, 2014, at 9:57 AM, Anders Holmberg and...@pipkrokodil.se wrote: Hi! I have two things i need an answer for. First, how do i turn off the annoying message one row added and so on? Is this in the notice center? Second, how do i reply to a sender in a mailing list. Lets say i would like to answer someone on the blindapples list in a private mail. Can i find the persons email adress and then click on it and send a mail to him or her. /A -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups MacVisionaries group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout. -- Have a great day, Alex Hall mehg...@icloud.com -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups MacVisionaries group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups MacVisionaries group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups MacVisionaries group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout. -- Have a great day, Alex Hall mehg...@icloud.com -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups MacVisionaries group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout.
Re: Bootcamp Update and Yosemite Release
Hi Grant and Alex, In that case, I think I can spare the real estate to have it installed on the desktop. When I partitioned the HD in bootcamp, I thought I gave myself plenty of storage on the Win side, but it turned out to be much less. I'm constantly looking to see how to keep this side lean. Thanks for taking the time to post. Best, Eileen Sent from my iPhone On Sep 2, 2014, at 4:35 PM, Alex Hall mehg...@icloud.com wrote: The installer I downloaded the other day was around 17MB, compared to well over 100MB for Jaws. I don't know how big it expands to be, but yes, it is a very small size, all things considered. On Sep 2, 2014, at 7:28 PM, Grant Hardy grantha...@outlook.com wrote: Hello, I don’t remember the exact size but it is extremely light and minimal. If you don’t ask it to run at the logon screen or after you log in, then I don’t think it installs anything other than a folder in the Program Files directory as well as a folder for user settings in each user account that runs NVDA. If you don’t run it, it shouldn’t take up any system resources other than a negligible amount of space. Now, this being said, even if you lose your JAWS activation, JAWS will run in 40-minute demo mode. Still, I agree with Alex that having multiple screen readers, for troubleshooting purposes, is best. Grant On Sep 2, 2014, at 3:58 PM, Eileen Misrahi eileen.misr...@gmail.com wrote: Hello, Thanks for the advise. Currently, I only have JAWS 15 installed. I was trying to keep only the PC apps that were absolutely necessary to run my business from home. Do you know how large the NVDA application is? Thanks. Eileen On Sep 2, 2014, at 2:24 PM, Alex Hall mehg...@icloud.com wrote: All I'll say here is to keep NVDA installed, and make sure you can bring it up. It won't help you if you have to re-install Windows (and, as Grant said, there's no reason you would need to do that), but if Jaws gets fussy and quits on you, NVDA will at least be sure you aren't without speech until you can get things fixed. Anyone who uses one screen reader should really have a second installed and ready, just in case, especially when the primary one is something as finicky about system changes as Jaws can be. On Sep 2, 2014, at 5:20 PM, Grant Hardy grantha...@outlook.com wrote: In general when installing an upgrade to Os X, I would see no reason why you should have to reinstall Windows as long as you aren’t using a non-standard disk partition configuration on your Mac (e.g. you manually modified the partition configuration after installing Windows via Boot Camp). I don’t think updates to the Support Software are mandatory, either, though sometimes they provide fixes to possible security issues. In any case, I believe the Dongle Viewer is located in the JAWS window under the Utilities menu. If your Dongle requires an update, you’ll have to contact Freedom Scientific.. I wouldn’t worry too much if I were you and things are currently working fine. I had to do some troubleshooting and things didn’t go as expected, that’s all. It’s an irritant, definitely, but it’s not as though you will permanently lose access to JAWS. If you telephone Freedom Scientific when any issue comes up, I am sure they will help you put it right. :) While it’s obviously important to backup your data before installing any kind of upgrade, chances are things should go just fine. Note: I have only installed a minor upgrade to OS X as my computer came preinstalled with OS X Mavericks, but this information is based on extensive reading on the Apple Support website. I’m sure others will chime in if they have different experiences. Grant On Sep 2, 2014, at 1:43 PM, Eileen Misrahi eileen.misr...@gmail.com wrote: Hello, I decided to start a new thread, so I don't get OT with this. Here's my situation and my concerns that I may need to update the bootcamp drivers in the future. Although I have a 2013 MBA, I purchased it before Mavericks was released. Hence, My OS is ML. I did update and ran the current bootcamp drivers (confirmed by Apple support) when installing Win 8.0. Now, in a short few weeks, Yosemite will be launched. Will I need to update the bootcamp drivers at that point and will I need to reinstall Win 8.1 again? This was a very daunting task the first time around. The post now turns to JAWS. I am using the current build of JAWS 15. Where do I go to find the Dongle viewer tool in JAWS 15? I know that the Dongles that I have are for earlier versions, but I don't know how far back. Aren't the license for the Dongles the same as the license number for ones JAWS product? I know there are many who are using bootcamp on the list, and I just want to prepare myself for the next release of the OS and not be caught off guard after I do the update to Yosemite. Thanks. Best, Eileen Sent from my iPhone --
Re: read receipt
Actually, this is only partly correct. You can write whatever you want to write in the email that is presented for you to fill in. You can also have different return receipt protocols for different email addresses though i haven't tried to do this. No, it may not be as good as a built-in system - it most definitely is not - but it can be used. It isn't ideal and I don't dispute its shortcomings, but I like to think of the glass as half-full as much of the time as possible instead of as half-empty. Have you written to Apple (not accessibility as this isn't an accessibility problem) and made your request? Honestly, I haven't. But if it is that important to you, then maybe you should do that instead of or in addition to looking for or hoping for another app, which certainly also is a valid solution. This wasn't worked out in order to provide an ironclad response to the need but rather to provide some opportunity to know that emails have been received. A better solution is most assuredly workable, so go for it and then let us know what you've found so we can use the best that can be found. -- Cheryl I tried and tried to turn over a new leaf. I got crumpled wads of tear-stained paper thrown in the trash! Then God gave me a new heart and life: His joy for my despairing tears! And now, every day: This I call to mind, and therefore I have hope: The steadfast love of the Lord never ceases; his mercies never come to an end; they are new every morning; great is your faithfulness. (Lamentations 3:21-23 ESV) On Sep 2, 2014, at 6:16 PM, Sabahattin Gucukoglu listse...@me.com wrote: The problem with adding headers and running scripts in response to headers is that it's not very flexible. You can't respond on a message-by-message basis to requests, and if you happen to have multiple accounts, you can't send out a request from the correct one. This point is important, since RFC 2298 says that a person who receives a request must validate that the return path and request address match. It really is a hack. And DSN (delivery receipt) is impossible, because you've got to add parameters to the SMTP commands to make that work. What we *really* need is an alternative to Mail.app that supports MDN and DSN. :) -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups MacVisionaries group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups MacVisionaries group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout.
Re: Mac mail problems and frustrations.
Hi Alex, If I am in my mail program on my Mac, looking at the headers, the email address shows up as a link. I then hit enter. If I strictly want to reply to an email, I simply reply to it I'm done. Pam Francis On Sep 2, 2014, at 6:45 PM, Alex Hall mehg...@icloud.com wrote: Generally, yes. However, when you reply, nothing is turned into a link; if you read your reply later, the address will be a link, but in the message you are typing, it is just text. Perhaps others' experiences are different, or there is a setting I can change? It would certainly be easier to have links appear in messages I type, but I've never found that to happen. On Sep 2, 2014, at 7:36 PM, Pamela Francis gypsykitt...@gmail.com wrote: Hi Alex, Why would one need to copy The selected email address to the clipboard? Generally, any email address shows up as a link. Why can't one click on the link thereby opening a new email window proceeding with the note one wants to write? Pam Francis On Sep 1, 2014, at 10:08 AM, Anders Holmberg and...@pipkrokodil.se wrote: Hi! Ok. Thanks for your help. I'd thought your second answer would be the best. But i was just asking if there was an alternative way. Thanks. /A 1 sep 2014 kl. 16:07 skrev Alex Hall mehg...@icloud.com: 1. This happens in any app that uses an updating table - Mail, Twitter clients, anything. Currently, it cannot be changed or disabled, but please tell accessibil...@apple.com that you would like this to change. Maybe they'll do something about it soon. 2. The easiest way is to hit reply. That message will go to the whole list, unless the list is set up differently, but below where you type will be the original message. In there, on the first line, is the on [date], [name] [email address] wrote: line. That email address is the one you want; copy it to the clipboard, then make a new email message and paste the address into the to field. On Sep 1, 2014, at 9:57 AM, Anders Holmberg and...@pipkrokodil.se wrote: Hi! I have two things i need an answer for. First, how do i turn off the annoying message one row added and so on? Is this in the notice center? Second, how do i reply to a sender in a mailing list. Lets say i would like to answer someone on the blindapples list in a private mail. Can i find the persons email adress and then click on it and send a mail to him or her. /A -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups MacVisionaries group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout. -- Have a great day, Alex Hall mehg...@icloud.com -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups MacVisionaries group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups MacVisionaries group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups MacVisionaries group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout. -- Have a great day, Alex Hall mehg...@icloud.com -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups MacVisionaries group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups MacVisionaries group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to
Re: Mac mail problems and frustrations.
Yes, the headers work differently, but I've never gotten enter to work reliably for activating the links there. The OP wanted to reply to just the sender (off-list), and the best way I've found so far is to reply normally, copy out the email address from the line right below your new message, then replace the mailing list address with what you copied. How do you get links to activate properly in the headers? If doable, that is certainly an easier option. On Sep 2, 2014, at 8:42 PM, Pamela Francis gypsykitt...@gmail.com wrote: Hi Alex, If I am in my mail program on my Mac, looking at the headers, the email address shows up as a link. I then hit enter. If I strictly want to reply to an email, I simply reply to it I'm done. Pam Francis On Sep 2, 2014, at 6:45 PM, Alex Hall mehg...@icloud.com wrote: Generally, yes. However, when you reply, nothing is turned into a link; if you read your reply later, the address will be a link, but in the message you are typing, it is just text. Perhaps others' experiences are different, or there is a setting I can change? It would certainly be easier to have links appear in messages I type, but I've never found that to happen. On Sep 2, 2014, at 7:36 PM, Pamela Francis gypsykitt...@gmail.com wrote: Hi Alex, Why would one need to copy The selected email address to the clipboard? Generally, any email address shows up as a link. Why can't one click on the link thereby opening a new email window proceeding with the note one wants to write? Pam Francis On Sep 1, 2014, at 10:08 AM, Anders Holmberg and...@pipkrokodil.se wrote: Hi! Ok. Thanks for your help. I'd thought your second answer would be the best. But i was just asking if there was an alternative way. Thanks. /A 1 sep 2014 kl. 16:07 skrev Alex Hall mehg...@icloud.com: 1. This happens in any app that uses an updating table - Mail, Twitter clients, anything. Currently, it cannot be changed or disabled, but please tell accessibil...@apple.com that you would like this to change. Maybe they'll do something about it soon. 2. The easiest way is to hit reply. That message will go to the whole list, unless the list is set up differently, but below where you type will be the original message. In there, on the first line, is the on [date], [name] [email address] wrote: line. That email address is the one you want; copy it to the clipboard, then make a new email message and paste the address into the to field. On Sep 1, 2014, at 9:57 AM, Anders Holmberg and...@pipkrokodil.se wrote: Hi! I have two things i need an answer for. First, how do i turn off the annoying message one row added and so on? Is this in the notice center? Second, how do i reply to a sender in a mailing list. Lets say i would like to answer someone on the blindapples list in a private mail. Can i find the persons email adress and then click on it and send a mail to him or her. /A -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups MacVisionaries group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout. -- Have a great day, Alex Hall mehg...@icloud.com -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups MacVisionaries group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups MacVisionaries group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups MacVisionaries group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout. -- Have a great day, Alex Hall mehg...@icloud.com -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups MacVisionaries group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails
Re: Mac mail problems and frustrations.
Hi Alex, Generally, if I'm on a link in a header like that, I turn quicknav on. I Use my quicknav keys to activate the link. Please try it in a reply by email off list to me just to see if it works for you. Pam Francis On Sep 2, 2014, at 7:49 PM, Alex Hall mehg...@icloud.com wrote: Yes, the headers work differently, but I've never gotten enter to work reliably for activating the links there. The OP wanted to reply to just the sender (off-list), and the best way I've found so far is to reply normally, copy out the email address from the line right below your new message, then replace the mailing list address with what you copied. How do you get links to activate properly in the headers? If doable, that is certainly an easier option. On Sep 2, 2014, at 8:42 PM, Pamela Francis gypsykitt...@gmail.com wrote: Hi Alex, If I am in my mail program on my Mac, looking at the headers, the email address shows up as a link. I then hit enter. If I strictly want to reply to an email, I simply reply to it I'm done. Pam Francis On Sep 2, 2014, at 6:45 PM, Alex Hall mehg...@icloud.com wrote: Generally, yes. However, when you reply, nothing is turned into a link; if you read your reply later, the address will be a link, but in the message you are typing, it is just text. Perhaps others' experiences are different, or there is a setting I can change? It would certainly be easier to have links appear in messages I type, but I've never found that to happen. On Sep 2, 2014, at 7:36 PM, Pamela Francis gypsykitt...@gmail.com wrote: Hi Alex, Why would one need to copy The selected email address to the clipboard? Generally, any email address shows up as a link. Why can't one click on the link thereby opening a new email window proceeding with the note one wants to write? Pam Francis On Sep 1, 2014, at 10:08 AM, Anders Holmberg and...@pipkrokodil.se wrote: Hi! Ok. Thanks for your help. I'd thought your second answer would be the best. But i was just asking if there was an alternative way. Thanks. /A 1 sep 2014 kl. 16:07 skrev Alex Hall mehg...@icloud.com: 1. This happens in any app that uses an updating table - Mail, Twitter clients, anything. Currently, it cannot be changed or disabled, but please tell accessibil...@apple.com that you would like this to change. Maybe they'll do something about it soon. 2. The easiest way is to hit reply. That message will go to the whole list, unless the list is set up differently, but below where you type will be the original message. In there, on the first line, is the on [date], [name] [email address] wrote: line. That email address is the one you want; copy it to the clipboard, then make a new email message and paste the address into the to field. On Sep 1, 2014, at 9:57 AM, Anders Holmberg and...@pipkrokodil.se wrote: Hi! I have two things i need an answer for. First, how do i turn off the annoying message one row added and so on? Is this in the notice center? Second, how do i reply to a sender in a mailing list. Lets say i would like to answer someone on the blindapples list in a private mail. Can i find the persons email adress and then click on it and send a mail to him or her. /A -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups MacVisionaries group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout. -- Have a great day, Alex Hall mehg...@icloud.com -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups MacVisionaries group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups MacVisionaries group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups MacVisionaries group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at
Re: Mac mail problems and frustrations.
I tried several ways - quick nav, enter, vo-space, interacting with the text and then with the specific linked address - and could not get it to work. On Sep 2, 2014, at 8:59 PM, Pamela Francis gypsykitt...@gmail.com wrote: Hi Alex, Generally, if I'm on a link in a header like that, I turn quicknav on. I Use my quicknav keys to activate the link. Please try it in a reply by email off list to me just to see if it works for you. Pam Francis On Sep 2, 2014, at 7:49 PM, Alex Hall mehg...@icloud.com wrote: Yes, the headers work differently, but I've never gotten enter to work reliably for activating the links there. The OP wanted to reply to just the sender (off-list), and the best way I've found so far is to reply normally, copy out the email address from the line right below your new message, then replace the mailing list address with what you copied. How do you get links to activate properly in the headers? If doable, that is certainly an easier option. On Sep 2, 2014, at 8:42 PM, Pamela Francis gypsykitt...@gmail.com wrote: Hi Alex, If I am in my mail program on my Mac, looking at the headers, the email address shows up as a link. I then hit enter. If I strictly want to reply to an email, I simply reply to it I'm done. Pam Francis On Sep 2, 2014, at 6:45 PM, Alex Hall mehg...@icloud.com wrote: Generally, yes. However, when you reply, nothing is turned into a link; if you read your reply later, the address will be a link, but in the message you are typing, it is just text. Perhaps others' experiences are different, or there is a setting I can change? It would certainly be easier to have links appear in messages I type, but I've never found that to happen. On Sep 2, 2014, at 7:36 PM, Pamela Francis gypsykitt...@gmail.com wrote: Hi Alex, Why would one need to copy The selected email address to the clipboard? Generally, any email address shows up as a link. Why can't one click on the link thereby opening a new email window proceeding with the note one wants to write? Pam Francis On Sep 1, 2014, at 10:08 AM, Anders Holmberg and...@pipkrokodil.se wrote: Hi! Ok. Thanks for your help. I'd thought your second answer would be the best. But i was just asking if there was an alternative way. Thanks. /A 1 sep 2014 kl. 16:07 skrev Alex Hall mehg...@icloud.com: 1. This happens in any app that uses an updating table - Mail, Twitter clients, anything. Currently, it cannot be changed or disabled, but please tell accessibil...@apple.com that you would like this to change. Maybe they'll do something about it soon. 2. The easiest way is to hit reply. That message will go to the whole list, unless the list is set up differently, but below where you type will be the original message. In there, on the first line, is the on [date], [name] [email address] wrote: line. That email address is the one you want; copy it to the clipboard, then make a new email message and paste the address into the to field. On Sep 1, 2014, at 9:57 AM, Anders Holmberg and...@pipkrokodil.se wrote: Hi! I have two things i need an answer for. First, how do i turn off the annoying message one row added and so on? Is this in the notice center? Second, how do i reply to a sender in a mailing list. Lets say i would like to answer someone on the blindapples list in a private mail. Can i find the persons email adress and then click on it and send a mail to him or her. /A -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups MacVisionaries group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout. -- Have a great day, Alex Hall mehg...@icloud.com -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups MacVisionaries group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups MacVisionaries group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups MacVisionaries group. To unsubscribe from
Re: Mac mail problems and frustrations.
Hi! OK when I opened more details in my headers the only option seemed to be to reply to the list! And your name did not seem to be a link! And Alex when sitting on the link in the message like yours below this open VO+shift+m and you get 4 options [well on mine it does] new email, make new contact, add to existing contact and copy link! Just another option! HTH Colin On 3 Sep 2014, at 02:06, Alex Hall mehg...@icloud.com wrote: I tried several ways - quick nav, enter, vo-space, interacting with the text and then with the specific linked address - and could not get it to work. On Sep 2, 2014, at 8:59 PM, Pamela Francis gypsykitt...@gmail.com wrote: Hi Alex, Generally, if I'm on a link in a header like that, I turn quicknav on. I Use my quicknav keys to activate the link. Please try it in a reply by email off list to me just to see if it works for you. Pam Francis On Sep 2, 2014, at 7:49 PM, Alex Hall mehg...@icloud.com wrote: Yes, the headers work differently, but I've never gotten enter to work reliably for activating the links there. The OP wanted to reply to just the sender (off-list), and the best way I've found so far is to reply normally, copy out the email address from the line right below your new message, then replace the mailing list address with what you copied. How do you get links to activate properly in the headers? If doable, that is certainly an easier option. On Sep 2, 2014, at 8:42 PM, Pamela Francis gypsykitt...@gmail.com wrote: Hi Alex, If I am in my mail program on my Mac, looking at the headers, the email address shows up as a link. I then hit enter. If I strictly want to reply to an email, I simply reply to it I'm done. Pam Francis On Sep 2, 2014, at 6:45 PM, Alex Hall mehg...@icloud.com wrote: Generally, yes. However, when you reply, nothing is turned into a link; if you read your reply later, the address will be a link, but in the message you are typing, it is just text. Perhaps others' experiences are different, or there is a setting I can change? It would certainly be easier to have links appear in messages I type, but I've never found that to happen. On Sep 2, 2014, at 7:36 PM, Pamela Francis gypsykitt...@gmail.com wrote: Hi Alex, Why would one need to copy The selected email address to the clipboard? Generally, any email address shows up as a link. Why can't one click on the link thereby opening a new email window proceeding with the note one wants to write? Pam Francis On Sep 1, 2014, at 10:08 AM, Anders Holmberg and...@pipkrokodil.se wrote: Hi! Ok. Thanks for your help. I'd thought your second answer would be the best. But i was just asking if there was an alternative way. Thanks. /A 1 sep 2014 kl. 16:07 skrev Alex Hall mehg...@icloud.com: 1. This happens in any app that uses an updating table - Mail, Twitter clients, anything. Currently, it cannot be changed or disabled, but please tell accessibil...@apple.com that you would like this to change. Maybe they'll do something about it soon. 2. The easiest way is to hit reply. That message will go to the whole list, unless the list is set up differently, but below where you type will be the original message. In there, on the first line, is the on [date], [name] [email address] wrote: line. That email address is the one you want; copy it to the clipboard, then make a new email message and paste the address into the to field. On Sep 1, 2014, at 9:57 AM, Anders Holmberg and...@pipkrokodil.se wrote: Hi! I have two things i need an answer for. First, how do i turn off the annoying message one row added and so on? Is this in the notice center? Second, how do i reply to a sender in a mailing list. Lets say i would like to answer someone on the blindapples list in a private mail. Can i find the persons email adress and then click on it and send a mail to him or her. /A -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups MacVisionaries group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout. -- Have a great day, Alex Hall mehg...@icloud.com -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups MacVisionaries group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups MacVisionaries group. To unsubscribe
Permanently erase mail (bypassing the trash)
Hello all, I was wondering if anyone knows how to permanently erase a message, or group of messages, from an IMAP account in the mail app without sending them to the trash. I've read a couple of articles that suggest simply hitting CMD+X to cut them to the clipboard, but this seems not to work. Unfortunately, it seems that with some Email providers, moving messages out of junk, and into trash, is considered unmarking them as spam. Thanks in advance, Grant -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups MacVisionaries group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout.
Re: Permanently erase mail (bypassing the trash)
Grant, the keystroke you want is command shift delete. I use it all the time and bypass the trash in that way. You'll have to answer a confirmation dialog box that pops up, but that's not a difficult task to accomplish. Hope this helps. Les Sent from my iPhone On Sep 2, 2014, at 11:42 PM, Grant Hardy grantha...@outlook.com wrote: Hello all, I was wondering if anyone knows how to permanently erase a message, or group of messages, from an IMAP account in the mail app without sending them to the trash. I’ve read a couple of articles that suggest simply hitting CMD+X to cut them to the clipboard, but this seems not to work. Unfortunately, it seems that with some Email providers, moving messages out of junk, and into trash, is considered unmarking them as spam. Thanks in advance, Grant -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups MacVisionaries group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups MacVisionaries group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout.
Re: reading without pause
so what would i do? On 02 Sep 2014, at 22:59, Anne Robertson a...@anarchie.org.uk wrote: VoiceOver pauses at new line characters. Check your text for these. The Mac considers a new line to be a paragraph break, but often, documents created using Windows has these extra new line characters all over the place. Cheers, Anne On 2 Sep 2014, at 22:55, Dionipher Presas Herrera dionip...@gmail.com wrote: i tried reading again with read all gesture, it read pauses every line and sentences. it's so awfull to here some pauses between the word THE and others. it's not nice to here, so i want the voice over to speak without pauses. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups MacVisionaries group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups MacVisionaries group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups MacVisionaries group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout.
Re: Permanently erase mail (bypassing the trash)
Hmmm, on my computer running Mavericks, doing cmd-shift-delete doesn't seem to send one message directly to the trash. Instead it brings up a dialog asking me if I want to delete all items in trash and it says something about doing that in all accounts. Maybe I'm missing something about how and when you are recommending this action. -- Cheryl I tried and tried to turn over a new leaf. I got crumpled wads of tear-stained paper thrown in the trash! Then God gave me a new heart and life: His joy for my despairing tears! And now, every day: This I call to mind, and therefore I have hope: The steadfast love of the Lord never ceases; his mercies never come to an end; they are new every morning; great is your faithfulness. (Lamentations 3:21-23 ESV) On Sep 2, 2014, at 11:05 PM, Les Kriegler kriegle...@gmail.com wrote: Grant, the keystroke you want is command shift delete. I use it all the time and bypass the trash in that way. You'll have to answer a confirmation dialog box that pops up, but that's not a difficult task to accomplish. Hope this helps. Les Sent from my iPhone On Sep 2, 2014, at 11:42 PM, Grant Hardy grantha...@outlook.com wrote: Hello all, I was wondering if anyone knows how to permanently erase a message, or group of messages, from an IMAP account in the mail app without sending them to the trash. I've read a couple of articles that suggest simply hitting CMD+X to cut them to the clipboard, but this seems not to work. Unfortunately, it seems that with some Email providers, moving messages out of junk, and into trash, is considered unmarking them as spam. Thanks in advance, Grant -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups MacVisionaries group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups MacVisionaries group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups MacVisionaries group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout.
Re: Permanently erase mail (bypassing the trash)
Hi Cheryl, No, that's exactly the message I get. I must tell you however that I only have one mail account. I'm guessing that it would delete any items in the trash folders for whatever account you have in your system. But it might be worth calling Apple to check this out. Again, the message you got is the same when I get. Sent from my iPhone On Sep 3, 2014, at 1:08 AM, Cheryl Homiak cah4...@icloud.com wrote: Hmmm, on my computer running Mavericks, doing cmd-shift-delete doesn't seem to send one message directly to the trash. Instead it brings up a dialog asking me if I want to delete all items in trash and it says something about doing that in all accounts. Maybe I'm missing something about how and when you are recommending this action. -- Cheryl I tried and tried to turn over a new leaf. I got crumpled wads of tear-stained paper thrown in the trash! Then God gave me a new heart and life: His joy for my despairing tears! And now, every day: This I call to mind, and therefore I have hope: The steadfast love of the Lord never ceases; his mercies never come to an end; they are new every morning; great is your faithfulness. (Lamentations 3:21-23 ESV) On Sep 2, 2014, at 11:05 PM, Les Kriegler kriegle...@gmail.com wrote: Grant, the keystroke you want is command shift delete. I use it all the time and bypass the trash in that way. You'll have to answer a confirmation dialog box that pops up, but that's not a difficult task to accomplish. Hope this helps. Les Sent from my iPhone On Sep 2, 2014, at 11:42 PM, Grant Hardy grantha...@outlook.com wrote: Hello all, I was wondering if anyone knows how to permanently erase a message, or group of messages, from an IMAP account in the mail app without sending them to the trash. I’ve read a couple of articles that suggest simply hitting CMD+X to cut them to the clipboard, but this seems not to work. Unfortunately, it seems that with some Email providers, moving messages out of junk, and into trash, is considered unmarking them as spam. Thanks in advance, Grant -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups MacVisionaries group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups MacVisionaries group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups MacVisionaries group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups MacVisionaries group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout.
Re: reading without pause
Use find and replace to get rid of them. Cheers, Anne On 3 Sep 2014, at 06:21, Dionipher Herrera dionip...@gmail.com wrote: so what would i do? On 02 Sep 2014, at 22:59, Anne Robertson a...@anarchie.org.uk wrote: VoiceOver pauses at new line characters. Check your text for these. The Mac considers a new line to be a paragraph break, but often, documents created using Windows has these extra new line characters all over the place. Cheers, Anne On 2 Sep 2014, at 22:55, Dionipher Presas Herrera dionip...@gmail.com wrote: i tried reading again with read all gesture, it read pauses every line and sentences. it's so awfull to here some pauses between the word THE and others. it's not nice to here, so i want the voice over to speak without pauses. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups MacVisionaries group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups MacVisionaries group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups MacVisionaries group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups MacVisionaries group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout.
