Re: Mac Office 2016 new pre-release is out

[Andrew Lamanche]

This is a set of Office apps you can download and use locally on your mac 
computer.
> On 20 May 2015, at 03:35, denise avant  wrote:
> 
> Is this the Office onlin version i.e. office 365 or is there a product that 
> can be downloaded?
> 
>> On May 17, 2015, at 8:49 AM, george b  wrote:
>> 
>> Go to
>> 
>> www.office.com
>> 
>> in the search field type in office 2016 preview for mac
>> 
>> -Original Message-
>> From: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com 
>> [mailto:macvisionaries@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of denise avant
>> Sent: Sunday, May 17, 2015 05:21
>> To: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com
>> Subject: Re: Mac Office 2016 new pre-release is out
>> 
>> hello all,
>> How can one get a copy of office 2016 for the MAC?
>> For example is it part of office 365?
>> Thanks.
>> 
>>> On May 17, 2015, at 3:22 AM, Christopher-Mark Gilland 
>>>  wrote:
>>> 
>>> Sean,
>>> 
>>> Perfect!  Thank you so much for letting us know.  Do you see any more 
>>> improvements, off hand?
>>> 
>>> Chris.
>>> 
>>> - Original Message - From: "Sean Murphy" 
>>> To: 
>>> Sent: Sunday, May 17, 2015 3:58 AM
>>> Subject: Mac Office 2016 new pre-release is out
>>> 
>>> 
 All,
 
 A new release of Microsoft Office 2016 is now available via the automatic 
 update if you have already downloaded it before.
 
 Sean
 
 -- 
 You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups 
 "MacVisionaries" group.
 To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an 
 email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com.
 To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com.
 Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries.
 For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout. 
>>> 
>>> -- 
>>> You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups 
>>> "MacVisionaries" group.
>>> To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an 
>>> email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com.
>>> To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com.
>>> Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries.
>>> For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout.
>> 
>> -- 
>> You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups 
>> "MacVisionaries" group.
>> To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an 
>> email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com.
>> To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com.
>> Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries.
>> For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout.
>> 
>> -- 
>> You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups 
>> "MacVisionaries" group.
>> To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an 
>> email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com.
>> To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com.
>> Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries.
>> For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout.
> 
> -- 
> You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups 
> "MacVisionaries" group.
> To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an 
> email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com.
> To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com.
> Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries.
> For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout.

-- 
You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups 
"MacVisionaries" group.
To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email 
to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com.
To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com.
Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries.
For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout.

Re: Creating a folder to burn from my Mac to a CD

[Pamela Francis]

Hello 
Maybe I am misunderstanding my own question. I know you're answering me to the 
best that I'm able to explain it.
I know it isn't hard, I'm just a little confused. I have an audiobook that was 
broken up into chapters that are audio MP3 files.
I can work with it in iTunes on my Mac. However I need to put it into a format 
that I can transfer to my Windows computer in order to use the software on my 
Windows computer the book was written for. If my Windows machine sees it as a 
data CD, will it come up as an audio file? The specific software is not 
available for my mac, or I would use it with my Mac. There are no accessible 
alternatives for my Mac. Therefore I need both the instructions and the 
software on my Windows machine. I apologize if I made it more of this than it 
was, however I am attempting to truly explain what I'm trying to get done. Need 
to make both computers happy. 
 Thanks Much

Pam Francis

On May 19, 2015, at 10:17 PM, Tim Kilburn  wrote:

Hi,

If you want it to be an audio CD, then the files cannot remain as mp3’s.  You 
will need to use an app like iTunes to create the audio CD which converts them 
into the necessary format and makes it readable by CD players.

Later...

Tim Kilburn
Fort McMurray, AB Canada

On May 19, 2015, at 20:29, Pamela Francis  wrote:

is there a way to create the cd as an audio cd As The files are audio?

Pam Francis

On May 19, 2015, at 9:01 PM, Jeff Greene  wrote:

Hi Pam,
Well, its been a while since i’ve done this but here goes. Get all the mp3 
files into one place like downloads folder. Select them all and hit VO-shift-m 
one of the options will create burn folder. Once the folder is in place, open 
it and you should see a burn button at the bottom of the folder, or possibly 
the burn is in the file menu. And you’re all set. Your windows pc will just see 
it like a data disk and you can copy etc.
HTH Jeff

> On May 19, 2015, at 9:35 PM, Pamela Francis  wrote:
> 
> Hello everyone,
> This may have been discussed previously, however I need some easy steps for 
> creating a burn folder on my mac comprised of MP3 files from an audiobook 
> that deals with the program I will ultimately use in windows. I need the CD 
> to be able to transfer to my Windows machine in order to play it, then use 
> the steps it gives me. As it is, the book was sent to me as a zip file in my 
> email. I am currently able to pull it up in iTunes on my Mac. The software it 
> discusses is not available for my mac, or I would use it that way. I'm 
> certainly not attempting to make a mountain from a molehill just need to know 
> how to do this in order to make both computers happy.
> Thanks in advance for any suggestions or help.
> Best regards,
> 
> Pam Francis
> 
> -- 
> You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups 
> "MacVisionaries" group.
> To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an 
> email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com.
> To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com.
> Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries.
> For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout.

-- 
You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups 
"MacVisionaries" group.
To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email 
to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com.
To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com.
Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries.
For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout.

-- 
You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups 
"MacVisionaries" group.
To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email 
to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com.
To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com.
Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries.
For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout.

-- 
You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups 
"MacVisionaries" group.
To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email 
to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com.
To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com.
Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries.
For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout.

-- 
You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups 
"MacVisionaries" group.
To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email 
to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com.
To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com.
Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries.
For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout.

Re: subscribing to the list

[Shawn Krasniuk]

Hi Chris and Walter. There's another step that you left out but you probably 
don't know about this since this was just implemented. Once he sends the blank 
email to macvisionaries+subscr...@googlegroups.com 
 he will likely receive an 
email from one of the admins or moderators of the list asking how he heard of 
the list. This is so that possible spammers are prevented from joining the 
list. When I chose to create an iCloud email account and transferred emails 
from this list to it, I got an email from Chris Blouch asking me this question.

Shawn
Sent from my White MacBook



> On May 19, 2015, at 11:28 PM, Christopher-Mark Gilland 
>  wrote:
> 
> Hello Walter.  I trust that this evening finds you well.
> 
> To subscribe, have your friend send a blank message to:
> 
> macvisionaries+subscr...@googlegroups.com
> 
> The plus sign in the above address was not a typo.
> 
> Leave the body and the message completely empty.  Once this message is sent, 
> they will receive a confirmation e-mail back.  Simply reply to this message 
> without changing anything.  Literally, just hit reply, then immediately hit 
> send.
> 
> This will forward on their request to one of the administrators who then will 
> get them approved/added to the list.
> 
> Hope this helps.
> 
> In His service,
> 
> Chris.
> 
> - Original Message - From: "Walter Harper" 
> To: 
> Sent: Wednesday, May 20, 2015 12:12 AM
> Subject: subscribing to the list
> 
> 
>> Hello all,
>> I have a friend who would like to subscribe to this list.  What is the 
>> subscribe address so I can give him so he can subscribe?
>> Walter
>> 
>> -- 
>> You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups 
>> "MacVisionaries" group.
>> To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an 
>> email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com.
>> To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com.
>> Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries.
>> For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout. 
> 
> -- 
> You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups 
> "MacVisionaries" group.
> To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an 
> email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com.
> To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com.
> Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries.
> For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout.

-- 
You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups 
"MacVisionaries" group.
To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email 
to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com.
To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com.
Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries.
For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout.

Re: PDF Pen reader for the Mac.

[Nicholas Parsons]

Brilliant! Thanks, Tim!

-- 
You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups 
"MacVisionaries" group.
To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email 
to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com.
To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com.
Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries.
For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout.

Re: Searching and selecting text in PDF documents

[Nicholas Parsons]

1. Navigate and interact with the toolbar, then navigate to the end of the 
toolbar where there is a search field. Type text in there to be searched and 
press return. Then stop interacting with the toolbar, and next to the PDF 
content area will be a new scroll area. Interact with that scroll area and 
you’ll find a table of search results. Once you have selected the search result 
you want from the table, interact with the PDF content area and you’ll be on 
the page and possibly even the line of the search result.

2. Selecting text has become trickier since OS X Yosemite. Not sure if it has 
been fixed in the latest update. It used to be that the best way to select text 
was to enter the VO selection mode using VO return, selecting the text you 
wanted to highlight with normal VO navigation keys, and then press VO-return to 
exit selection mode. You could then copy the highlighted text. However, if this 
doesn’t work, as seems to be the case of late, I just use the VO-shift-c 
command to copy the last phrase spoken by VoiceOver.

-- 
You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups 
"MacVisionaries" group.
To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email 
to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com.
To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com.
Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries.
For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout.

Re: subscribing to the list

[Christopher-Mark Gilland]

Hello Walter.  I trust that this evening finds you well.

To subscribe, have your friend send a blank message to:

macvisionaries+subscr...@googlegroups.com

The plus sign in the above address was not a typo.

Leave the body and the message completely empty.  Once this message is sent, 
they will receive a confirmation e-mail back.  Simply reply to this message 
without changing anything.  Literally, just hit reply, then immediately hit 
send.


This will forward on their request to one of the administrators who then 
will get them approved/added to the list.


Hope this helps.

In His service,

Chris.

- Original Message - 
From: "Walter Harper" 

To: 
Sent: Wednesday, May 20, 2015 12:12 AM
Subject: subscribing to the list



Hello all,
I have a friend who would like to subscribe to this list.  What is the 
subscribe address so I can give him so he can subscribe?

Walter

--
You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups 
"MacVisionaries" group.
To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an 
email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com.

To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com.
Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries.
For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout. 


--
You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups 
"MacVisionaries" group.
To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email 
to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com.
To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com.
Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries.
For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout.

subscribing to the list

[Walter Harper]

Hello all,
I have a friend who would like to subscribe to this list.  What is the 
subscribe address so I can give him so he can subscribe?
Walter 

-- 
You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups 
"MacVisionaries" group.
To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email 
to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com.
To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com.
Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries.
For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout.

Re: Creating a folder to burn from my Mac to a CD

[Tim Kilburn]

Hi,

If you want it to be an audio CD, then the files cannot remain as mp3’s.  You 
will need to use an app like iTunes to create the audio CD which converts them 
into the necessary format and makes it readable by CD players.

Later...

Tim Kilburn
Fort McMurray, AB Canada

On May 19, 2015, at 20:29, Pamela Francis  wrote:

is there a way to create the cd as an audio cd As The files are audio?

Pam Francis

On May 19, 2015, at 9:01 PM, Jeff Greene  wrote:

Hi Pam,
Well, its been a while since i’ve done this but here goes. Get all the mp3 
files into one place like downloads folder. Select them all and hit VO-shift-m 
one of the options will create burn folder. Once the folder is in place, open 
it and you should see a burn button at the bottom of the folder, or possibly 
the burn is in the file menu. And you’re all set. Your windows pc will just see 
it like a data disk and you can copy etc.
HTH Jeff

> On May 19, 2015, at 9:35 PM, Pamela Francis  wrote:
> 
> Hello everyone,
> This may have been discussed previously, however I need some easy steps for 
> creating a burn folder on my mac comprised of MP3 files from an audiobook 
> that deals with the program I will ultimately use in windows. I need the CD 
> to be able to transfer to my Windows machine in order to play it, then use 
> the steps it gives me. As it is, the book was sent to me as a zip file in my 
> email. I am currently able to pull it up in iTunes on my Mac. The software it 
> discusses is not available for my mac, or I would use it that way. I'm 
> certainly not attempting to make a mountain from a molehill just need to know 
> how to do this in order to make both computers happy.
> Thanks in advance for any suggestions or help.
> Best regards,
> 
> Pam Francis
> 
> -- 
> You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups 
> "MacVisionaries" group.
> To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an 
> email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com.
> To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com.
> Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries.
> For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout.

-- 
You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups 
"MacVisionaries" group.
To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email 
to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com.
To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com.
Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries.
For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout.

-- 
You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups 
"MacVisionaries" group.
To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email 
to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com.
To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com.
Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries.
For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout.

-- 
You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups 
"MacVisionaries" group.
To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email 
to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com.
To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com.
Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries.
For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout.

Re: Mac Office 2016 new pre-release is out

[denise avant]

Is this the Office onlin version i.e. office 365 or is there a product that can 
be downloaded?

> On May 17, 2015, at 8:49 AM, george b  wrote:
> 
> Go to
> 
> www.office.com
> 
> in the search field type in office 2016 preview for mac
> 
> -Original Message-
> From: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com 
> [mailto:macvisionaries@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of denise avant
> Sent: Sunday, May 17, 2015 05:21
> To: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com
> Subject: Re: Mac Office 2016 new pre-release is out
> 
> hello all,
> How can one get a copy of office 2016 for the MAC?
> For example is it part of office 365?
> Thanks.
> 
>> On May 17, 2015, at 3:22 AM, Christopher-Mark Gilland 
>>  wrote:
>> 
>> Sean,
>> 
>> Perfect!  Thank you so much for letting us know.  Do you see any more 
>> improvements, off hand?
>> 
>> Chris.
>> 
>> - Original Message - From: "Sean Murphy" 
>> To: 
>> Sent: Sunday, May 17, 2015 3:58 AM
>> Subject: Mac Office 2016 new pre-release is out
>> 
>> 
>>> All,
>>> 
>>> A new release of Microsoft Office 2016 is now available via the automatic 
>>> update if you have already downloaded it before.
>>> 
>>> Sean
>>> 
>>> -- 
>>> You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups 
>>> "MacVisionaries" group.
>>> To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an 
>>> email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com.
>>> To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com.
>>> Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries.
>>> For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout. 
>> 
>> -- 
>> You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups 
>> "MacVisionaries" group.
>> To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an 
>> email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com.
>> To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com.
>> Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries.
>> For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout.
> 
> -- 
> You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups 
> "MacVisionaries" group.
> To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an 
> email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com.
> To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com.
> Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries.
> For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout.
> 
> -- 
> You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups 
> "MacVisionaries" group.
> To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an 
> email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com.
> To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com.
> Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries.
> For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout.

-- 
You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups 
"MacVisionaries" group.
To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email 
to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com.
To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com.
Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries.
For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout.

Re: Creating a folder to burn from my Mac to a CD

[Pamela Francis]

 is there a way to create the cd as an audio cd As The files are audio?

Pam Francis

On May 19, 2015, at 9:01 PM, Jeff Greene  wrote:

Hi Pam,
Well, its been a while since i’ve done this but here goes. Get all the mp3 
files into one place like downloads folder. Select them all and hit VO-shift-m 
one of the options will create burn folder. Once the folder is in place, open 
it and you should see a burn button at the bottom of the folder, or possibly 
the burn is in the file menu. And you’re all set. Your windows pc will just see 
it like a data disk and you can copy etc.
HTH Jeff

> On May 19, 2015, at 9:35 PM, Pamela Francis  wrote:
> 
> Hello everyone,
> This may have been discussed previously, however I need some easy steps for 
> creating a burn folder on my mac comprised of MP3 files from an audiobook 
> that deals with the program I will ultimately use in windows. I need the CD 
> to be able to transfer to my Windows machine in order to play it, then use 
> the steps it gives me. As it is, the book was sent to me as a zip file in my 
> email. I am currently able to pull it up in iTunes on my Mac. The software it 
> discusses is not available for my mac, or I would use it that way. I'm 
> certainly not attempting to make a mountain from a molehill just need to know 
> how to do this in order to make both computers happy.
> Thanks in advance for any suggestions or help.
> Best regards,
> 
> Pam Francis
> 
> -- 
> You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups 
> "MacVisionaries" group.
> To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an 
> email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com.
> To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com.
> Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries.
> For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout.

-- 
You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups 
"MacVisionaries" group.
To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email 
to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com.
To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com.
Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries.
For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout.

-- 
You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups 
"MacVisionaries" group.
To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email 
to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com.
To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com.
Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries.
For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout.

Re: Creating a folder to burn from my Mac to a CD

[Jeff Greene]

Hi Pam,
Well, its been a while since i’ve done this but here goes. Get all the mp3 
files into one place like downloads folder. Select them all and hit VO-shift-m 
one of the options will create burn folder. Once the folder is in place, open 
it and you should see a burn button at the bottom of the folder, or possibly 
the burn is in the file menu. And you’re all set. Your windows pc will just see 
it like a data disk and you can copy etc.
HTH Jeff

> On May 19, 2015, at 9:35 PM, Pamela Francis  wrote:
> 
> Hello everyone,
> This may have been discussed previously, however I need some easy steps for 
> creating a burn folder on my mac comprised of MP3 files from an audiobook 
> that deals with the program I will ultimately use in windows. I need the CD 
> to be able to transfer to my Windows machine in order to play it, then use 
> the steps it gives me. As it is, the book was sent to me as a zip file in my 
> email. I am currently able to pull it up in iTunes on my Mac. The software it 
> discusses is not available for my mac, or I would use it that way. I'm 
> certainly not attempting to make a mountain from a molehill just need to know 
> how to do this in order to make both computers happy.
> Thanks in advance for any suggestions or help.
> Best regards,
> 
> Pam Francis
> 
> -- 
> You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups 
> "MacVisionaries" group.
> To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an 
> email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com.
> To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com.
> Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries.
> For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout.

-- 
You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups 
"MacVisionaries" group.
To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email 
to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com.
To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com.
Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries.
For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout.

Re: Office 2016: Sending Feedback On Found Bugs

[Eileen]

Hi George and Sean Again,

First, let me apologize to you Sean for misspelling your name. I have seen it 
spelled 3 different ways 'now. I know this is slightly different then the 
current subject line, but I'll post it anyways. Is the navigation in Word 2016 
following the voiceover commands found in let's say Pages or TextEdit? Because 
I have been a heavy PC user of the Office Suite products, I keep thinking that 
the Office Suite on the Mac would react the same with similar keystroke 
equivalents. So, what I mean is on the Office PC side, one could use ALT-H to 
open the "Home" tab and then arrow down to access the ribbon. On the Mac, the 
ALT key is the Option key, so would this logic work? I just closed out Word 
2016, so I can't test that. I have an idea that the answer is no. That's why I 
posed my question at the top of this post in order for me to begin to rethink 
the whole Navigation process in Office on the Mac.

Thanks for my rambling and reading this.

Best,
Eileen

Sent from my iPhone

> On May 19, 2015, at 3:58 PM, george b  wrote:
> 
> Ah, yes, I remember they moved it to the ribbon and I am not at my mac at 
> this moment either or I would look.
> 
> -Original Message-
> From: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com 
> [mailto:macvisionaries@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of Sean Murphy
> Sent: Tuesday, May 19, 2015 15:42
> To: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com
> Subject: Re: Office 2016: Sending Feedback On Found Bugs
> 
> Hello,
> 
> The option to send feedback in relation to improvements or bugs is found on 
> the ribbon bar. Not on the menu. I am not on my Mac, so I cannot give you 
> step by step instructions.
> 
> In relation to bug reporting, everyone should post them here so other's can 
> test them and also report them.
> 
> 
> MS is aware of the table problem and spell check bugs.  In saying this, it 
> doesn't stop you reporting the issue.
> 
> I will have to look into the list and header issues. I will report this to MS 
> directly to my contact.
> 
> So if anyone else has issues, please post them so others are aware and can 
> support your case. If you have idea's to improve also post. We have a perfect 
> time to improve office for the Mac. Let's not miss it.
> 
> 
> Sean 
> 
> My experience is the part 
> 
>> On 20 May 2015, at 3:28 am, Eileen Misrahi  wrote:
>> 
>> Hello All, 
>> 
>> I know that this has been discussed before, but I have missed placed where I 
>> need to send my feedback to (address) in regards to bugs that or features 
>> that are not fixed or accessible to voiceover. I would appreciate it if 
>> someone could post that email address. There are several items that I want 
>> to have MS address or at least document that these are still bugs for those 
>> who need to use voiceover. 
>> 
>> Thanks in advance. 
>> 
>> Cheers, 
>> Eileen  
>> 
>> -- 
>> You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups 
>> "MacVisionaries" group.
>> To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an 
>> email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com.
>> To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com.
>> Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries.
>> For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout.
> 
> -- 
> You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups 
> "MacVisionaries" group.
> To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an 
> email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com.
> To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com.
> Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries.
> For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout.
> 
> -- 
> You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups 
> "MacVisionaries" group.
> To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an 
> email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com.
> To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com.
> Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries.
> For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout.

-- 
You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups 
"MacVisionaries" group.
To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email 
to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com.
To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com.
Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries.
For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout.

itunes questions

[denise avant]

Hello  all,
I am doing some housekeeping  on my mac phone and ipad.
I want to do the following:
1. delete apps from itunes I no longer need or use
2. except for common apps, have only ipad apps on my ipad and iphone apps on my 
phone

Can anyone tell me the best way to accomplish this?
Thanks.

-- 
You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups 
"MacVisionaries" group.
To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email 
to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com.
To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com.
Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries.
For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout.

Creating a folder to burn from my Mac to a CD

[Pamela Francis]

Hello everyone,
This may have been discussed previously, however I need some easy steps for 
creating a burn folder on my mac comprised of MP3 files from an audiobook that 
deals with the program I will ultimately use in windows. I need the CD to be 
able to transfer to my Windows machine in order to play it, then use the steps 
it gives me. As it is, the book was sent to me as a zip file in my email. I am 
currently able to pull it up in iTunes on my Mac. The software it discusses is 
not available for my mac, or I would use it that way. I'm certainly not 
attempting to make a mountain from a molehill just need to know how to do this 
in order to make both computers happy.
Thanks in advance for any suggestions or help.
Best regards,

Pam Francis

-- 
You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups 
"MacVisionaries" group.
To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email 
to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com.
To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com.
Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries.
For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout.

Re: Office 2016: Sending Feedback On Found Bugs

[Eileen]

Hi George, and shawn,

Thanks for suggesting to check the ribbon. I need to get use to the Mac way of 
doing things and where or how to access them. I found the "Help Improve Office" 
tab next to my "Developer" tab. and used a VO-SPACE on it. I'm now going to 
explore all of the tabs and see if I can solve some of it, if that's possible 
and will definitely send my findings to MS. 

Thanks again for pointing me in the right direction.

Cheers,
Eileen 

Sent from my iPhone

> On May 19, 2015, at 3:58 PM, george b  wrote:
> 
> Ah, yes, I remember they moved it to the ribbon and I am not at my mac at 
> this moment either or I would look.
> 
> -Original Message-
> From: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com 
> [mailto:macvisionaries@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of Sean Murphy
> Sent: Tuesday, May 19, 2015 15:42
> To: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com
> Subject: Re: Office 2016: Sending Feedback On Found Bugs
> 
> Hello,
> 
> The option to send feedback in relation to improvements or bugs is found on 
> the ribbon bar. Not on the menu. I am not on my Mac, so I cannot give you 
> step by step instructions.
> 
> In relation to bug reporting, everyone should post them here so other's can 
> test them and also report them.
> 
> 
> MS is aware of the table problem and spell check bugs.  In saying this, it 
> doesn't stop you reporting the issue.
> 
> I will have to look into the list and header issues. I will report this to MS 
> directly to my contact.
> 
> So if anyone else has issues, please post them so others are aware and can 
> support your case. If you have idea's to improve also post. We have a perfect 
> time to improve office for the Mac. Let's not miss it.
> 
> 
> Sean 
> 
> My experience is the part 
> 
>> On 20 May 2015, at 3:28 am, Eileen Misrahi  wrote:
>> 
>> Hello All, 
>> 
>> I know that this has been discussed before, but I have missed placed where I 
>> need to send my feedback to (address) in regards to bugs that or features 
>> that are not fixed or accessible to voiceover. I would appreciate it if 
>> someone could post that email address. There are several items that I want 
>> to have MS address or at least document that these are still bugs for those 
>> who need to use voiceover. 
>> 
>> Thanks in advance. 
>> 
>> Cheers, 
>> Eileen  
>> 
>> -- 
>> You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups 
>> "MacVisionaries" group.
>> To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an 
>> email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com.
>> To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com.
>> Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries.
>> For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout.
> 
> -- 
> You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups 
> "MacVisionaries" group.
> To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an 
> email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com.
> To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com.
> Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries.
> For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout.
> 
> -- 
> You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups 
> "MacVisionaries" group.
> To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an 
> email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com.
> To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com.
> Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries.
> For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout.

-- 
You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups 
"MacVisionaries" group.
To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email 
to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com.
To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com.
Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries.
For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout.

Re: two problems

[Jeff Greene]

Hi Matthew, Thanks for the info worked like a charm! I’ve never had this 
problem before and was tearing my hair out!
Thanks, Jeff

> On May 19, 2015, at 7:00 PM, Matthew Dierckens  wrote:
> 
> Hey Jeff,
> I am unsure about your second question, but your first one I believe I can 
> answer.
> Find a .rar file that you want to tell the app to use.
> Now press command I. Interact with the scroll area.
> You want to look for the "Open with" discloser triangle. It may be collapsed. 
> Expand it with VO backsplash. Now choose stuffit expander from the popup 
> button.
> VO right and find the the following. Use this application to open all 
> documents like this one. Now you want to find the "change all" button and VO 
> space on it.
> God bless.
> Matthew Dierckens
> Certified Assistive Technology Specialist
> Macintosh, Windows and IOS  Trainer
> U.S. number: 573-401-1018
> Personal Email: matt.dierck...@me.com
> 
> On May 19, 2015, at 07:44, jeff `greene  wrote:
> 
> Hi, Since I reformatted my hdd and re-installed OSX I'm having two
> strange problems.
> 1. I use stuffit expander to unarchive .rar files. Sometimes now if I
> hit open on a .rar file vlc opens and then has a coniption fit because
> its trying to play the file. Any idea how I can fix this?
> 2 Since my re-install of OSX my Canon scanner is no longer recognized
> when I plug it in. Any ideas how I can fix this?
> Thanks, Jeff
> 
> -- 
> You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups 
> "MacVisionaries" group.
> To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an 
> email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com.
> To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com.
> Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries.
> For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout.
> 
> -- 
> You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups 
> "MacVisionaries" group.
> To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an 
> email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com.
> To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com.
> Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries.
> For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout.

-- 
You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups 
"MacVisionaries" group.
To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email 
to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com.
To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com.
Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries.
For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout.

Re: two problems

[Matthew Dierckens]

Hey Jeff,
I am unsure about your second question, but your first one I believe I can 
answer.
Find a .rar file that you want to tell the app to use.
Now press command I. Interact with the scroll area.
You want to look for the "Open with" discloser triangle. It may be collapsed. 
Expand it with VO backsplash. Now choose stuffit expander from the popup button.
VO right and find the the following. Use this application to open all documents 
like this one. Now you want to find the "change all" button and VO space on it.
God bless.
Matthew Dierckens
Certified Assistive Technology Specialist
Macintosh, Windows and IOS  Trainer
U.S. number: 573-401-1018
Personal Email: matt.dierck...@me.com

On May 19, 2015, at 07:44, jeff `greene  wrote:

Hi, Since I reformatted my hdd and re-installed OSX I'm having two
strange problems.
1. I use stuffit expander to unarchive .rar files. Sometimes now if I
hit open on a .rar file vlc opens and then has a coniption fit because
its trying to play the file. Any idea how I can fix this?
2 Since my re-install of OSX my Canon scanner is no longer recognized
when I plug it in. Any ideas how I can fix this?
Thanks, Jeff

-- 
You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups 
"MacVisionaries" group.
To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email 
to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com.
To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com.
Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries.
For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout.

-- 
You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups 
"MacVisionaries" group.
To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email 
to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com.
To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com.
Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries.
For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout.

RE: Office 2016: Sending Feedback On Found Bugs

[george b]

Ah, yes, I remember they moved it to the ribbon and I am not at my mac at this 
moment either or I would look.

-Original Message-
From: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com [mailto:macvisionaries@googlegroups.com] 
On Behalf Of Sean Murphy
Sent: Tuesday, May 19, 2015 15:42
To: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: Office 2016: Sending Feedback On Found Bugs

Hello,

The option to send feedback in relation to improvements or bugs is found on the 
ribbon bar. Not on the menu. I am not on my Mac, so I cannot give you step by 
step instructions.

In relation to bug reporting, everyone should post them here so other's can 
test them and also report them.


MS is aware of the table problem and spell check bugs.  In saying this, it 
doesn't stop you reporting the issue.

I will have to look into the list and header issues. I will report this to MS 
directly to my contact.

So if anyone else has issues, please post them so others are aware and can 
support your case. If you have idea's to improve also post. We have a perfect 
time to improve office for the Mac. Let's not miss it.


Sean 

My experience is the part 

> On 20 May 2015, at 3:28 am, Eileen Misrahi  wrote:
> 
> Hello All, 
> 
> I know that this has been discussed before, but I have missed placed where I 
> need to send my feedback to (address) in regards to bugs that or features 
> that are not fixed or accessible to voiceover. I would appreciate it if 
> someone could post that email address. There are several items that I want to 
> have MS address or at least document that these are still bugs for those who 
> need to use voiceover. 
> 
> Thanks in advance. 
> 
> Cheers, 
> Eileen  
> 
> -- 
> You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups 
> "MacVisionaries" group.
> To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an 
> email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com.
> To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com.
> Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries.
> For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout.

-- 
You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups 
"MacVisionaries" group.
To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email 
to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com.
To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com.
Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries.
For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout.

-- 
You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups 
"MacVisionaries" group.
To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email 
to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com.
To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com.
Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries.
For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout.

Re: Office 2016: Sending Feedback On Found Bugs

[Sean Murphy]

Hello,

The option to send feedback in relation to improvements or bugs is found on the 
ribbon bar. Not on the menu. I am not on my Mac, so I cannot give you step by 
step instructions.

In relation to bug reporting, everyone should post them here so other's can 
test them and also report them.


MS is aware of the table problem and spell check bugs.  In saying this, it 
doesn't stop you reporting the issue.

I will have to look into the list and header issues. I will report this to MS 
directly to my contact.

So if anyone else has issues, please post them so others are aware and can 
support your case. If you have idea's to improve also post. We have a perfect 
time to improve office for the Mac. Let's not miss it.


Sean 

My experience is the part 

> On 20 May 2015, at 3:28 am, Eileen Misrahi  wrote:
> 
> Hello All, 
> 
> I know that this has been discussed before, but I have missed placed where I 
> need to send my feedback to (address) in regards to bugs that or features 
> that are not fixed or accessible to voiceover. I would appreciate it if 
> someone could post that email address. There are several items that I want to 
> have MS address or at least document that these are still bugs for those who 
> need to use voiceover. 
> 
> Thanks in advance. 
> 
> Cheers, 
> Eileen  
> 
> -- 
> You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups 
> "MacVisionaries" group.
> To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an 
> email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com.
> To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com.
> Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries.
> For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout.

-- 
You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups 
"MacVisionaries" group.
To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email 
to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com.
To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com.
Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries.
For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout.

RE: Office 2016: Sending Feedback On Found Bugs

[george b]

When I am in word, I go to help, then using the trackpad I flick down with one 
finger to I get to send feedback and doubble tap with one finger on the 
trackpad to open the window.

I can not access this with voice over keys and arrows or just even arrows

-Original Message-
From: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com [mailto:macvisionaries@googlegroups.com] 
On Behalf Of Eileen
Sent: Tuesday, May 19, 2015 15:07
To: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: Office 2016: Sending Feedback On Found Bugs


Hello, 

First, I want to say that I did open the help menu hoping to find a support or 
send feedback button, but that option was not listed. That's why I posted on 
the list. I know this was discussed before, but I have misplaced the info on 
that email address.

Secondly, here are some of the items that I guess I'm calling bugs or are not 
accessible with VO.

1. I typed a few misspelled words in a doc. The spell checker is better than 
before, but when I open it VO annnounces "image," which gives me no idea on 
which word is not spelled right. Only when I tab over to the suggestions table 
do I know the word in question.
2. I created a table of 3 rows and 3 columns, but I can't do much more than 
have VO read this to me. There is no grid to navigate in or out of a cell. I 
know that there was another recent post on accessing tables, so I won't discuss 
this one further. 
3. I use bullets in my docs from time to time. I could access the 
bulleted/numbers dialog and select the bullet type I wanted to use. However, 
when back in a doc and creating my list, I couldn't tell if the bullets were 
placed infront of the text where I wanted it to be. This is something that one 
has access to in Word 2010 or 2013 with the Pc screen readers of choice. 
4. When creating instructional materials for work, I use either 3-4 different 
heading styles. I did open the styles dialog and tabbed over to the list table. 
When I interacted with the table, I only had 7 choices and heading 1-2-3-4 were 
not in the choices. In previous Office 2016 Preview, I could at least scroll 
through many rows, but find these options. There isn't a simple solution like 
on the Windows side in Office 2010 or 2013 where one can use a Windows 
keystroke to add the various heading levels. Maybe someone else can chime in on 
this one, but it shouldn't be so lavorious to do these attribute changes. 

Sorry for the long post, but you wanted to know my experience with the new 
update. I finally got frustrated enough and closed Word 2016 and performed my 
tasks with Word 2010 where everything works. :) 

Eileen

Sent from my iPhone

> On May 19, 2015, at 10:41 AM, george b  wrote:
> 
> First of all what are the bugs? We are all in this together.
> Second you can go to the help menu and down to I think it is send feedback
> 
> -Original Message-
> From: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com 
> [mailto:macvisionaries@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of Eileen Misrahi
> Sent: Tuesday, May 19, 2015 10:28
> To: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com
> Subject: Office 2016: Sending Feedback On Found Bugs
> 
> Hello All, 
> 
> I know that this has been discussed before, but I have missed placed where I 
> need to send my feedback to (address) in regards to bugs that or features 
> that are not fixed or accessible to voiceover. I would appreciate it if 
> someone could post that email address. There are several items that I want to 
> have MS address or at least document that these are still bugs for those who 
> need to use voiceover. 
> 
> Thanks in advance. 
> 
> Cheers, 
> Eileen  
> 
> -- 
> You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups 
> "MacVisionaries" group.
> To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an 
> email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com.
> To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com.
> Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries.
> For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout.
> 
> -- 
> You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups 
> "MacVisionaries" group.
> To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an 
> email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com.
> To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com.
> Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries.
> For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout.

-- 
You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups 
"MacVisionaries" group.
To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email 
to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com.
To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com.
Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries.
For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout.

-- 
You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups 

Re: Office 2016: Sending Feedback On Found Bugs

[Eileen]

Hello, 

First, I want to say that I did open the help menu hoping to find a support or 
send feedback button, but that option was not listed. That's why I posted on 
the list. I know this was discussed before, but I have misplaced the info on 
that email address.

Secondly, here are some of the items that I guess I'm calling bugs or are not 
accessible with VO.

1. I typed a few misspelled words in a doc. The spell checker is better than 
before, but when I open it VO annnounces "image," which gives me no idea on 
which word is not spelled right. Only when I tab over to the suggestions table 
do I know the word in question.
2. I created a table of 3 rows and 3 columns, but I can't do much more than 
have VO read this to me. There is no grid to navigate in or out of a cell. I 
know that there was another recent post on accessing tables, so I won't discuss 
this one further. 
3. I use bullets in my docs from time to time. I could access the 
bulleted/numbers dialog and select the bullet type I wanted to use. However, 
when back in a doc and creating my list, I couldn't tell if the bullets were 
placed infront of the text where I wanted it to be. This is something that one 
has access to in Word 2010 or 2013 with the Pc screen readers of choice. 
4. When creating instructional materials for work, I use either 3-4 different 
heading styles. I did open the styles dialog and tabbed over to the list table. 
When I interacted with the table, I only had 7 choices and heading 1-2-3-4 were 
not in the choices. In previous Office 2016 Preview, I could at least scroll 
through many rows, but find these options. There isn't a simple solution like 
on the Windows side in Office 2010 or 2013 where one can use a Windows 
keystroke to add the various heading levels. Maybe someone else can chime in on 
this one, but it shouldn't be so lavorious to do these attribute changes. 

Sorry for the long post, but you wanted to know my experience with the new 
update. I finally got frustrated enough and closed Word 2016 and performed my 
tasks with Word 2010 where everything works. :) 

Eileen

Sent from my iPhone

> On May 19, 2015, at 10:41 AM, george b  wrote:
> 
> First of all what are the bugs? We are all in this together.
> Second you can go to the help menu and down to I think it is send feedback
> 
> -Original Message-
> From: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com 
> [mailto:macvisionaries@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of Eileen Misrahi
> Sent: Tuesday, May 19, 2015 10:28
> To: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com
> Subject: Office 2016: Sending Feedback On Found Bugs
> 
> Hello All, 
> 
> I know that this has been discussed before, but I have missed placed where I 
> need to send my feedback to (address) in regards to bugs that or features 
> that are not fixed or accessible to voiceover. I would appreciate it if 
> someone could post that email address. There are several items that I want to 
> have MS address or at least document that these are still bugs for those who 
> need to use voiceover. 
> 
> Thanks in advance. 
> 
> Cheers, 
> Eileen  
> 
> -- 
> You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups 
> "MacVisionaries" group.
> To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an 
> email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com.
> To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com.
> Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries.
> For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout.
> 
> -- 
> You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups 
> "MacVisionaries" group.
> To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an 
> email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com.
> To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com.
> Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries.
> For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout.

-- 
You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups 
"MacVisionaries" group.
To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email 
to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com.
To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com.
Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries.
For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout.

Re: microsoft office question

[Brian Howerton]

Thanks Eileen,
Yeah, I saw tat link.  It looks good.  I guess there are no mac tutorials yet 
for the office products as they have recently become accessible.  But I guess I 
would be able to transfer windows instructions to the mac.
Brian
> On May 19, 2015, at 3:21 PM, Eileen  wrote:
> 
> Hello,
> 
> So do you want tutorials that are Mac based to learn the Office Suite 
> products? On the Windows side, I can't recommend more CathyAnne Merthers 
> tutorials. In my opinion, they are the best for the PC side. the link to her 
> website is:
> 
> www.blindtraining.com
> 
> The tutorials are not inexpensive, but it has gotten me up and running 
> quickly, especially when Win 8.1 was released and using Office 2013 when it 
> was installed on BootCamp on my MacBook Air. HTH. 
> 
> Eileen 
> 
> Sent from my iPhone
> 
>> On May 19, 2015, at 11:42 AM, Brian Howerton  wrote:
>> 
>> Hello all,
>> I am getting ready to start working on my master’s this fall, and I was 
>> wondering if anyone knew of any good training resources for learning word, 
>> excel, and powerpoint.  In word, I have never been great with formatting and 
>> making things look professional, and I would love to be able to get a good 
>> handle on that before starting to write papers.  I will be using the mac 
>> when office 2016 becomes available.  Right now, I am working with the 
>> preview, but I would like to learn how to do some of this before classes 
>> start so I am not fighting the software.  Just would like to brush up on my 
>> office skills.  Thanks,
>> Brian
>> 
>> -- 
>> You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups 
>> "MacVisionaries" group.
>> To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an 
>> email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com.
>> To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com.
>> Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries.
>> For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout.
> 
> -- 
> You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups 
> "MacVisionaries" group.
> To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an 
> email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com.
> To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com.
> Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries.
> For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout.

-- 
You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups 
"MacVisionaries" group.
To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email 
to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com.
To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com.
Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries.
For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout.

Re: microsoft office question

[Eileen]

Hello,

So do you want tutorials that are Mac based to learn the Office Suite products? 
On the Windows side, I can't recommend more CathyAnne Merthers tutorials. In my 
opinion, they are the best for the PC side. the link to her website is:

www.blindtraining.com

The tutorials are not inexpensive, but it has gotten me up and running quickly, 
especially when Win 8.1 was released and using Office 2013 when it was 
installed on BootCamp on my MacBook Air. HTH. 

Eileen 

Sent from my iPhone

> On May 19, 2015, at 11:42 AM, Brian Howerton  wrote:
> 
> Hello all,
> I am getting ready to start working on my master’s this fall, and I was 
> wondering if anyone knew of any good training resources for learning word, 
> excel, and powerpoint.  In word, I have never been great with formatting and 
> making things look professional, and I would love to be able to get a good 
> handle on that before starting to write papers.  I will be using the mac when 
> office 2016 becomes available.  Right now, I am working with the preview, but 
> I would like to learn how to do some of this before classes start so I am not 
> fighting the software.  Just would like to brush up on my office skills.  
> Thanks,
> Brian
> 
> -- 
> You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups 
> "MacVisionaries" group.
> To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an 
> email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com.
> To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com.
> Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries.
> For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout.

-- 
You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups 
"MacVisionaries" group.
To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email 
to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com.
To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com.
Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries.
For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout.

Re: Good monitor and keyboard for the mac

[Alex Hall]

The monitor never went anywhere, but yes, I did take the keyboard a few 
different places. It was $12 though, so even if it had broken, I could have 
replaced it easily enough. Ultimately, the desire to travel with a Mac led me 
to switch to the Macbook, and I'm far happier overall. Sure, I miss all the 
ports of the Mini, but the laptops are portable and way more compact, plus 
offer the multi-touch trackpad and a mic/webcam.
> On May 19, 2015, at 1:25 PM, Devin Prater  wrote:
> 
> How long has your keyboard lasted? And what kind is it? Have you taken it 
> places or kept in place? 
> 
> Sent from my iPhone
> 
> On May 19, 2015, at 9:40 AM, Alex Hall  > wrote:
> 
>> I had a Mac Mini for years (still do, but the drive is shot). I hooked up a 
>> $12 USB keyboard from Wal-Mart, and a monitor we'd had for at least five 
>> years from Dell, and it worked just fine. Apple computers don't need apple 
>> peripherals, but the Apple stuff tends to last longer and look better. Of 
>> course, my $12 keyboard is still going strong, even if it isn't very 
>> comfortable.
>>> On May 19, 2015, at 9:17 AM, Devin Prater >> > wrote:
>>> 
>>> So Apple can look at non-Apple products, like cheap logitech keyboards and 
>>> Visio TVS? 
>>> 
>>> Sent from my iPhone
>>> 
 On May 19, 2015, at 5:42 AM, Jonathan C Cohn >>> > wrote:
 
 I personally have heard great things about the Logitech keyboards. You can 
 actually pretty much use any USB keyboard, the primary difference between 
 Mac and Windows keyboards in the US is that the command and option keys by 
 default are reversed in order. This can be created in System Preferences.
 
 If you do any amount of typing I would suggest not going cheep on the 
 keyboard. On the other hand if these are Apple products you currently have 
 and you live close enough to an Apple store it does not hurt to bring then 
 in for a Genius look. Apple gives free evaluations of issues. 
 
> On May 18, 2015, at 23:18, Devin Prater  > wrote:
> 
> Hi all. So after a year or so in the case of the monitor and months in 
> the case of the keyboard, they both have stopped working. The power part 
> of the monitor ceased to function last week, and the control, escape, 
> number 5, f8 keys don't work anymore. So, I'd like advice on inexpensive 
> but well-worth monitors and keyboard for the mac mini. I don't need a 
> wireless keyboard, just one that'll stay good for at least a year.
> 
> Sent from my iPhone
> 
> -- 
> You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups 
> "MacVisionaries" group.
> To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an 
> email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com 
> .
> To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com 
> .
> Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries 
> .
> For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout 
> .
 
 -- 
 You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups 
 "MacVisionaries" group.
 To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an 
 email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com 
 .
 To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com 
 .
 Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries 
 .
 For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout 
 .
>>> 
>>> -- 
>>> You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups 
>>> "MacVisionaries" group.
>>> To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an 
>>> email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com 
>>> .
>>> To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com 
>>> .
>>> Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries 
>>> .
>>> For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout 
>>> .
>> 
>> 
>> --
>> Have a great day,
>> Alex Hall
>> mehg...@icloud.com 
>> 
>> -- 
>> You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups 
>> "MacVisionaries" group.
>> To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an 
>> email to macvisionaries+

Re: Introduction and a couple of questions

[Jamie Pauls]

My apologies. I didn't catch that voice dictation error. Thanks.

Sent from my iPhone

> On May 19, 2015, at 1:42 PM, christopher hallsworth  
> wrote:
> 
> I think they mean VO.
>> On 19 May 2015, at 14:42, george b  wrote:
>> 
>> Where is the video key?
>> 
>> -Original Message-
>> From: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com 
>> [mailto:macvisionaries@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of Jamie Pauls
>> Sent: Tuesday, May 19, 2015 06:28
>> To: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com
>> Subject: Re: Introduction and a couple of questions
>> 
>> Rather than pressing VO and right arrow, you can also press video and the 
>> letter J to jump from the message list to the message content. You may have 
>> to press VO J a couple of times to get to the content area. This is a known 
>> issue.
>> 
>> Sent from my iPhone
>> 
>>> On May 19, 2015, at 3:00 AM, christopher hallsworth 
>>>  wrote:
>>> 
>>> Hi Gary
>>> 
>>> Welcome to this list!
>>> 
>>> I actually use the preview pain in Mail to read my messages. All you do is 
>>> highlight a message, vo-right until you either hear the message headers 
>>> such as from and to or the message content itself. Then vo-shift-down arrow 
>>> to interact. You may then have to VO-right arrow until you hear what sounds 
>>> like the message content. Note if you land on the first message, you can't 
>>> always read using standard arrow keys. But if you press delete and the next 
>>> message is displayed, you can read with standard arrow keys. By "standard" 
>>> I mean without VO keys.
>>> 
>>> Just another option to explore besides what has been offered already.
>>> 
>>> 
 On 18 May 2015, at 21:43, Gary Price  wrote:
 
 Hello everyone.
 
 My name is Gary Price.
 I live in the United Kingdom, in a town in Lancashire called Bolton.
 Just a quick E-mail introducing myself really.
 
 I have been blind all my life. I got into the Mac through a friend Lewis 
 Crack in Kettering.
 
 He sold me his old one, but this went lets just say a bit pair shaped, so 
 I now have a new 13 inch Macbook Pro.
 
 I have a couple of questions before I sign off.
 
 My first one is you know if Apple needs to contact you, what number do 
 they start with over in the United Kingdom?
 Asking because I have been getting a strange call from a number starting 
 0333.
 
 My second question concerns Mail on the Mac.
 
 Not sure how to explain this.
 When I press Enter on a message to read it, VoiceOver says message 
 contents scroll area. But it will not read the actual message.
 
 Anyway I hope this E-mail is OK.
 
 Speak soon!
 Gary Price
 Sent from my 13 inch Macbook pro.
 
 This address is for personal contact:
 garypric...@icloud.com
 
 Twitter:
 http://www.twitter.com/gazwprice
 
 -- 
 You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups 
 "MacVisionaries" group.
 To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an 
 email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com.
 To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com.
 Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries.
 For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout.
>>> 
>>> -- 
>>> You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups 
>>> "MacVisionaries" group.
>>> To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an 
>>> email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com.
>>> To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com.
>>> Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries.
>>> For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout.
>> 
>> -- 
>> You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups 
>> "MacVisionaries" group.
>> To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an 
>> email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com.
>> To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com.
>> Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries.
>> For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout.
>> 
>> -- 
>> You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups 
>> "MacVisionaries" group.
>> To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an 
>> email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com.
>> To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com.
>> Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries.
>> For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout.
> 
> -- 
> You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups 
> "MacVisionaries" group.
> To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an 
> email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com.
> To post to this group, send ema

WatchOS 1.0.1 Available

[Sabahattin Gucukoglu]

For those who haven’t noticed yet, and own Apple Watch, WatchOS 1.0.1 is now 
available.  Use the Apple Watch app to install, from General, Software Update, 
as usual.  The process self-voices, in a nice iOS-like fashion, with an 
updating progress bar.  (But then, anything is an improvement over iTunes, eh?)

Security and bug fixes, including non-specific accessibility responsiveness 
fixes.

-- 
You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups 
"MacVisionaries" group.
To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email 
to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com.
To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com.
Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries.
For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout.

Re: Introduction and a couple of questions

[christopher hallsworth]

I think they mean VO.
> On 19 May 2015, at 14:42, george b  wrote:
> 
> Where is the video key?
> 
> -Original Message-
> From: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com 
> [mailto:macvisionaries@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of Jamie Pauls
> Sent: Tuesday, May 19, 2015 06:28
> To: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com
> Subject: Re: Introduction and a couple of questions
> 
> Rather than pressing VO and right arrow, you can also press video and the 
> letter J to jump from the message list to the message content. You may have 
> to press VO J a couple of times to get to the content area. This is a known 
> issue.
> 
> Sent from my iPhone
> 
>> On May 19, 2015, at 3:00 AM, christopher hallsworth 
>>  wrote:
>> 
>> Hi Gary
>> 
>> Welcome to this list!
>> 
>> I actually use the preview pain in Mail to read my messages. All you do is 
>> highlight a message, vo-right until you either hear the message headers such 
>> as from and to or the message content itself. Then vo-shift-down arrow to 
>> interact. You may then have to VO-right arrow until you hear what sounds 
>> like the message content. Note if you land on the first message, you can't 
>> always read using standard arrow keys. But if you press delete and the next 
>> message is displayed, you can read with standard arrow keys. By "standard" I 
>> mean without VO keys.
>> 
>> Just another option to explore besides what has been offered already.
>> 
>> 
>>> On 18 May 2015, at 21:43, Gary Price  wrote:
>>> 
>>> Hello everyone.
>>> 
>>> My name is Gary Price.
>>> I live in the United Kingdom, in a town in Lancashire called Bolton.
>>> Just a quick E-mail introducing myself really.
>>> 
>>> I have been blind all my life. I got into the Mac through a friend Lewis 
>>> Crack in Kettering.
>>> 
>>> He sold me his old one, but this went lets just say a bit pair shaped, so I 
>>> now have a new 13 inch Macbook Pro.
>>> 
>>> I have a couple of questions before I sign off.
>>> 
>>> My first one is you know if Apple needs to contact you, what number do they 
>>> start with over in the United Kingdom?
>>> Asking because I have been getting a strange call from a number starting 
>>> 0333.
>>> 
>>> My second question concerns Mail on the Mac.
>>> 
>>> Not sure how to explain this.
>>> When I press Enter on a message to read it, VoiceOver says message contents 
>>> scroll area. But it will not read the actual message.
>>> 
>>> Anyway I hope this E-mail is OK.
>>> 
>>> Speak soon!
>>> Gary Price
>>> Sent from my 13 inch Macbook pro.
>>> 
>>> This address is for personal contact:
>>> garypric...@icloud.com
>>> 
>>> Twitter:
>>> http://www.twitter.com/gazwprice
>>> 
>>> -- 
>>> You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups 
>>> "MacVisionaries" group.
>>> To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an 
>>> email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com.
>>> To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com.
>>> Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries.
>>> For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout.
>> 
>> -- 
>> You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups 
>> "MacVisionaries" group.
>> To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an 
>> email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com.
>> To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com.
>> Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries.
>> For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout.
> 
> -- 
> You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups 
> "MacVisionaries" group.
> To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an 
> email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com.
> To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com.
> Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries.
> For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout.
> 
> -- 
> You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups 
> "MacVisionaries" group.
> To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an 
> email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com.
> To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com.
> Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries.
> For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout.

-- 
You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups 
"MacVisionaries" group.
To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email 
to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com.
To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com.
Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries.
For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout.

microsoft office question

[Brian Howerton]

Hello all,
I am getting ready to start working on my master’s this fall, and I was 
wondering if anyone knew of any good training resources for learning word, 
excel, and powerpoint.  In word, I have never been great with formatting and 
making things look professional, and I would love to be able to get a good 
handle on that before starting to write papers.  I will be using the mac when 
office 2016 becomes available.  Right now, I am working with the preview, but I 
would like to learn how to do some of this before classes start so I am not 
fighting the software.  Just would like to brush up on my office skills.  
Thanks,
Brian

-- 
You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups 
"MacVisionaries" group.
To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email 
to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com.
To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com.
Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries.
For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout.

RE: Office 2016: Sending Feedback On Found Bugs

[george b]

First of all what are the bugs? We are all in this together.
Second you can go to the help menu and down to I think it is send feedback

-Original Message-
From: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com [mailto:macvisionaries@googlegroups.com] 
On Behalf Of Eileen Misrahi
Sent: Tuesday, May 19, 2015 10:28
To: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com
Subject: Office 2016: Sending Feedback On Found Bugs

Hello All, 

I know that this has been discussed before, but I have missed placed where I 
need to send my feedback to (address) in regards to bugs that or features that 
are not fixed or accessible to voiceover. I would appreciate it if someone 
could post that email address. There are several items that I want to have MS 
address or at least document that these are still bugs for those who need to 
use voiceover. 

Thanks in advance. 

Cheers, 
Eileen  

-- 
You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups 
"MacVisionaries" group.
To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email 
to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com.
To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com.
Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries.
For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout.

-- 
You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups 
"MacVisionaries" group.
To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email 
to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com.
To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com.
Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries.
For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout.

Re: Ensuring correct file was attached before sending, and determine attachment formats

[Eugenia Firth]

Hi Christine. It attaches. It does not go into the email. VoiceOver says image, 
but everybody gets my attachments just fine, and it sends the file. Also, in 
the Sent folder, it says the name of the file. It works great, and the only 
thing I wish it differently was to say the name of the file. It did in 
Mavericks, but not in Yosemite. However, I used to have blank files sent in 
Mavericks, but have never had a problem in Yosemite with that. 

Gigi 

> On May 19, 2015, at 7:59 AM, Christine Grassman  
> wrote:
> 
> But will it attach or merely be placed in the text of the email that way? 
> 
>> On May 19, 2015, at 8:48 AM, Eugenia Firth  wrote:
>> 
>> Hi Kristi
>> I have the same problem and so far is getting Yosemite to save the file when 
>> I attach it. However I do my attachments with finder, so I don't have the 
>> problem. What I do is in finder, I select the file I want and copy it to the 
>> clipboard like I'm going to move the file or paste. Then when I open my new 
>> message to write it, the first thing I do is press command v to paste it. In 
>> this way, I have not had the problem of putting in the wrong file and to my 
>> email.
>> Gigi
>> 
>> Sent from my iPhone
>> 
>>> On May 19, 2015, at 7:32 AM, Christine Grassman  
>>> wrote:
>>> 
>>> Hello all:
>>> In the past, when I attached a file I could see the title and be certain 
>>> the correct one had been chosen. It is in the list, of course, but imbedded 
>>> in the email it merely says “attach image” and I cannot therefore 
>>> double-check that the correct file was chosen. Is there a way to check 
>>> this?  I am using Yosemite on a new Macbook Air.
>>> 
>>> Additionally, I am also noticing that no matter what type of attachment is 
>>> sent to me, it says “image” which sometimes means it is an unreadable 
>>> scanned image and sometimes means it is a perfectly readable document of 
>>> another format, but there is no way to know until I do a “quick look” or 
>>> save and open it. Again, is there a way to check the format beforehand?
>>> Thanks in advance. 
>>> 
>>> 
>>> -- 
>>> You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups 
>>> "MacVisionaries" group.
>>> To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an 
>>> email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com.
>>> To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com.
>>> Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries.
>>> For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout.
>> 
>> -- 
>> You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups 
>> "MacVisionaries" group.
>> To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an 
>> email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com.
>> To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com.
>> Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries.
>> For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout.
> 
> -- 
> You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups 
> "MacVisionaries" group.
> To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an 
> email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com.
> To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com.
> Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries.
> For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout.

-- 
You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups 
"MacVisionaries" group.
To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email 
to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com.
To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com.
Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries.
For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout.

Office 2016: Sending Feedback On Found Bugs

[Eileen Misrahi]

Hello All, 

I know that this has been discussed before, but I have missed placed where I 
need to send my feedback to (address) in regards to bugs that or features that 
are not fixed or accessible to voiceover. I would appreciate it if someone 
could post that email address. There are several items that I want to have MS 
address or at least document that these are still bugs for those who need to 
use voiceover. 

Thanks in advance. 

Cheers, 
Eileen  

-- 
You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups 
"MacVisionaries" group.
To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email 
to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com.
To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com.
Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries.
For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout.

Re: Good monitor and keyboard for the mac

[Devin Prater]

How long has your keyboard lasted? And what kind is it? Have you taken it 
places or kept in place? 

Sent from my iPhone

> On May 19, 2015, at 9:40 AM, Alex Hall  wrote:
> 
> I had a Mac Mini for years (still do, but the drive is shot). I hooked up a 
> $12 USB keyboard from Wal-Mart, and a monitor we'd had for at least five 
> years from Dell, and it worked just fine. Apple computers don't need apple 
> peripherals, but the Apple stuff tends to last longer and look better. Of 
> course, my $12 keyboard is still going strong, even if it isn't very 
> comfortable.
>> On May 19, 2015, at 9:17 AM, Devin Prater  wrote:
>> 
>> So Apple can look at non-Apple products, like cheap logitech keyboards and 
>> Visio TVS? 
>> 
>> Sent from my iPhone
>> 
>>> On May 19, 2015, at 5:42 AM, Jonathan C Cohn  wrote:
>>> 
>>> I personally have heard great things about the Logitech keyboards. You can 
>>> actually pretty much use any USB keyboard, the primary difference between 
>>> Mac and Windows keyboards in the US is that the command and option keys by 
>>> default are reversed in order. This can be created in System Preferences.
>>> 
>>> If you do any amount of typing I would suggest not going cheep on the 
>>> keyboard. On the other hand if these are Apple products you currently have 
>>> and you live close enough to an Apple store it does not hurt to bring then 
>>> in for a Genius look. Apple gives free evaluations of issues. 
>>> 
 On May 18, 2015, at 23:18, Devin Prater  wrote:
 
 Hi all. So after a year or so in the case of the monitor and months in the 
 case of the keyboard, they both have stopped working. The power part of 
 the monitor ceased to function last week, and the control, escape, number 
 5, f8 keys don't work anymore. So, I'd like advice on inexpensive but 
 well-worth monitors and keyboard for the mac mini. I don't need a wireless 
 keyboard, just one that'll stay good for at least a year.
 
 Sent from my iPhone
 
 -- 
 You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups 
 "MacVisionaries" group.
 To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an 
 email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com.
 To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com.
 Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries.
 For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout.
>>> 
>>> -- 
>>> You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups 
>>> "MacVisionaries" group.
>>> To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an 
>>> email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com.
>>> To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com.
>>> Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries.
>>> For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout.
>> 
>> -- 
>> You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups 
>> "MacVisionaries" group.
>> To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an 
>> email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com.
>> To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com.
>> Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries.
>> For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout.
> 
> 
> --
> Have a great day,
> Alex Hall
> mehg...@icloud.com
> 
> -- 
> You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups 
> "MacVisionaries" group.
> To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an 
> email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com.
> To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com.
> Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries.
> For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout.

-- 
You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups 
"MacVisionaries" group.
To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email 
to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com.
To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com.
Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries.
For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout.

Re: ot: subscribe to group digest

['Chris Blouch' via MacVisionaries]

It's in the My Settings popup which is about nine tab stops from the 
Search field at the top of the page. Once there hit space to activate 
the menu then down arrow to Membership and Email Settings. In that 
dialog the 4th tab stop is email delivery preferences. If you hit space 
on that you can down arrow to either Send Daily Summaries (what most 
people call digest mode) or Send Combined Updates which will email every 
time there are 25 messages. Currently we average about 41 messages a 
day. After you pick then save your settings and you should be all set.


CB

On 5/19/15 8:50 AM, Joanne Chua wrote:

Hi all,

how can I subscribe this group as a daily digest instead of individual emails?

I went to the googlegroups itself, but didn't seems to find it.

Regards
Joanne



--
¯\_(ツ)_/¯

--
You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups 
"MacVisionaries" group.
To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email 
to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com.
To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com.
Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries.
For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout.

Searching and selecting text in PDF documents

[Jason White]

What’s the most effective way to
1. Search a PDF document for specified text, and
2. Select some text for copying to the clipboard from within a PDF document?

So far as I have been able to find out, tagged PDF (recognition of headings, 
paragraphs, lists, tables and other structures preserved in tagged PDF files) 
is still not supported by Preview.

Suggestions are welcome. I’ve tried Ctrl-Option-F, but it doesn’t appear to 
search the entire document. Obviously, structural navigation would be helpful 
but, as I mentioned above, doesn’t appear to be supported yet.

-- 
You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups 
"MacVisionaries" group.
To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email 
to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com.
To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com.
Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries.
For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout.


smime.p7s
Description: S/MIME cryptographic signature

Maps on Mac

[Shaf]

Hey. Anybody know of an accessible way to view your current location in Maps on 
Mac? As in get all location data such as address, regiion, postal code etc? 
Also, what good GPS apps are available for the mac?
Reason I ask is if I’m using a mac on a train or a car and I don’t want to 
switch to iPhone, are there any solutions for that?


-Shaf

-- 
You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups 
"MacVisionaries" group.
To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email 
to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com.
To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com.
Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries.
For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout.

Re: PDF Pen reader for the Mac.

[Tim Kilburn]

Nick,

Try this link for naming form elements:

https://smilesoftware.com/help/PDFpen/createforms.html

Later...

Tim Kilburn
Fort McMurray, AB Canada

On May 19, 2015, at 06:55, Eugenia Firth  wrote:

Hi Nick
It's been a long time ago since I got this message from Greg, so I will see if 
I can find it sometime soon. I seem to remember it has to do with going into 
the tools menu. I know that what happens in that situation is that the program 
names the fields field one for you too, and that's what voiceover calls them. 
Then he said the side of person would go into the tools menu to find the place 
to rename the form fields

Sent from my iPhone

> On May 18, 2015, at 9:35 PM, Nicholas Parsons  
> wrote:
> 
> Hi Gigi,
> 
> Just referring to your below email. Could you please have a look for that 
> email from Greg? I’d be really interested in learning how sighted people are 
> supposed to rename the form fields as that’s exactly what I’m hoping to get 
> some people to do for me.
> 
> Thanks and best regards,
> Nic
> 
>> On 25 Apr 2015, at 1:06 am, Eugenia Firth  wrote:
>> 
>> Hi again.
>> I forgot to say that it has a very fast image OCR on it. If you have a pdf 
>> file that is an image, it automatically OCR’s the thing. The other thing is 
>> that Greg told me that a sighted person could, and I forgot exactly how he 
>> said to do this, go into an inaccessible file and rename the form fields. If 
>> you open a file that is not set up for us, and you tell the program to find 
>> the form fields, they don’t have names we can recognize; they are numbered. 
>> A sighted person can go in there and rename the fields. At least, that’s the 
>> way I understood it. 
>> 
>> Gigi
> 
> -- 
> You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups 
> "MacVisionaries" group.
> To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an 
> email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com.
> To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com.
> Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries.
> For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout.

-- 
You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups 
"MacVisionaries" group.
To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email 
to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com.
To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com.
Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries.
For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout.

-- 
You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups 
"MacVisionaries" group.
To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email 
to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com.
To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com.
Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries.
For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout.

Re: Good monitor and keyboard for the mac

[Alex Hall]

I had a Mac Mini for years (still do, but the drive is shot). I hooked up a $12 
USB keyboard from Wal-Mart, and a monitor we'd had for at least five years from 
Dell, and it worked just fine. Apple computers don't need apple peripherals, 
but the Apple stuff tends to last longer and look better. Of course, my $12 
keyboard is still going strong, even if it isn't very comfortable.
> On May 19, 2015, at 9:17 AM, Devin Prater  wrote:
> 
> So Apple can look at non-Apple products, like cheap logitech keyboards and 
> Visio TVS? 
> 
> Sent from my iPhone
> 
>> On May 19, 2015, at 5:42 AM, Jonathan C Cohn  wrote:
>> 
>> I personally have heard great things about the Logitech keyboards. You can 
>> actually pretty much use any USB keyboard, the primary difference between 
>> Mac and Windows keyboards in the US is that the command and option keys by 
>> default are reversed in order. This can be created in System Preferences.
>> 
>> If you do any amount of typing I would suggest not going cheep on the 
>> keyboard. On the other hand if these are Apple products you currently have 
>> and you live close enough to an Apple store it does not hurt to bring then 
>> in for a Genius look. Apple gives free evaluations of issues. 
>> 
>>> On May 18, 2015, at 23:18, Devin Prater  wrote:
>>> 
>>> Hi all. So after a year or so in the case of the monitor and months in the 
>>> case of the keyboard, they both have stopped working. The power part of the 
>>> monitor ceased to function last week, and the control, escape, number 5, f8 
>>> keys don't work anymore. So, I'd like advice on inexpensive but well-worth 
>>> monitors and keyboard for the mac mini. I don't need a wireless keyboard, 
>>> just one that'll stay good for at least a year.
>>> 
>>> Sent from my iPhone
>>> 
>>> -- 
>>> You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups 
>>> "MacVisionaries" group.
>>> To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an 
>>> email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com.
>>> To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com.
>>> Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries.
>>> For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout.
>> 
>> -- 
>> You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups 
>> "MacVisionaries" group.
>> To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an 
>> email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com.
>> To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com.
>> Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries.
>> For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout.
> 
> -- 
> You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups 
> "MacVisionaries" group.
> To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an 
> email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com.
> To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com.
> Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries.
> For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout.


--
Have a great day,
Alex Hall
mehg...@icloud.com

-- 
You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups 
"MacVisionaries" group.
To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email 
to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com.
To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com.
Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries.
For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout.

RE: Introduction and a couple of questions

[george b]

Where is the video key?

-Original Message-
From: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com [mailto:macvisionaries@googlegroups.com] 
On Behalf Of Jamie Pauls
Sent: Tuesday, May 19, 2015 06:28
To: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: Introduction and a couple of questions

Rather than pressing VO and right arrow, you can also press video and the 
letter J to jump from the message list to the message content. You may have to 
press VO J a couple of times to get to the content area. This is a known issue.

Sent from my iPhone

> On May 19, 2015, at 3:00 AM, christopher hallsworth  
> wrote:
> 
> Hi Gary
> 
> Welcome to this list!
> 
> I actually use the preview pain in Mail to read my messages. All you do is 
> highlight a message, vo-right until you either hear the message headers such 
> as from and to or the message content itself. Then vo-shift-down arrow to 
> interact. You may then have to VO-right arrow until you hear what sounds like 
> the message content. Note if you land on the first message, you can't always 
> read using standard arrow keys. But if you press delete and the next message 
> is displayed, you can read with standard arrow keys. By "standard" I mean 
> without VO keys.
> 
> Just another option to explore besides what has been offered already.
> 
> 
>> On 18 May 2015, at 21:43, Gary Price  wrote:
>> 
>> Hello everyone.
>> 
>> My name is Gary Price.
>> I live in the United Kingdom, in a town in Lancashire called Bolton.
>> Just a quick E-mail introducing myself really.
>> 
>> I have been blind all my life. I got into the Mac through a friend Lewis 
>> Crack in Kettering.
>> 
>> He sold me his old one, but this went lets just say a bit pair shaped, so I 
>> now have a new 13 inch Macbook Pro.
>> 
>> I have a couple of questions before I sign off.
>> 
>> My first one is you know if Apple needs to contact you, what number do they 
>> start with over in the United Kingdom?
>> Asking because I have been getting a strange call from a number starting 
>> 0333.
>> 
>> My second question concerns Mail on the Mac.
>> 
>> Not sure how to explain this.
>> When I press Enter on a message to read it, VoiceOver says message contents 
>> scroll area. But it will not read the actual message.
>> 
>> Anyway I hope this E-mail is OK.
>> 
>> Speak soon!
>> Gary Price
>> Sent from my 13 inch Macbook pro.
>> 
>> This address is for personal contact:
>> garypric...@icloud.com
>> 
>> Twitter:
>> http://www.twitter.com/gazwprice
>> 
>> -- 
>> You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups 
>> "MacVisionaries" group.
>> To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an 
>> email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com.
>> To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com.
>> Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries.
>> For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout.
> 
> -- 
> You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups 
> "MacVisionaries" group.
> To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an 
> email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com.
> To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com.
> Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries.
> For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout.

-- 
You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups 
"MacVisionaries" group.
To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email 
to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com.
To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com.
Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries.
For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout.

-- 
You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups 
"MacVisionaries" group.
To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email 
to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com.
To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com.
Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries.
For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout.

Re: Introduction and a couple of questions

[Jamie Pauls]

Rather than pressing VO and right arrow, you can also press video and the 
letter J to jump from the message list to the message content. You may have to 
press VO J a couple of times to get to the content area. This is a known issue.

Sent from my iPhone

> On May 19, 2015, at 3:00 AM, christopher hallsworth  
> wrote:
> 
> Hi Gary
> 
> Welcome to this list!
> 
> I actually use the preview pain in Mail to read my messages. All you do is 
> highlight a message, vo-right until you either hear the message headers such 
> as from and to or the message content itself. Then vo-shift-down arrow to 
> interact. You may then have to VO-right arrow until you hear what sounds like 
> the message content. Note if you land on the first message, you can't always 
> read using standard arrow keys. But if you press delete and the next message 
> is displayed, you can read with standard arrow keys. By "standard" I mean 
> without VO keys.
> 
> Just another option to explore besides what has been offered already.
> 
> 
>> On 18 May 2015, at 21:43, Gary Price  wrote:
>> 
>> Hello everyone.
>> 
>> My name is Gary Price.
>> I live in the United Kingdom, in a town in Lancashire called Bolton.
>> Just a quick E-mail introducing myself really.
>> 
>> I have been blind all my life. I got into the Mac through a friend Lewis 
>> Crack in Kettering.
>> 
>> He sold me his old one, but this went lets just say a bit pair shaped, so I 
>> now have a new 13 inch Macbook Pro.
>> 
>> I have a couple of questions before I sign off.
>> 
>> My first one is you know if Apple needs to contact you, what number do they 
>> start with over in the United Kingdom?
>> Asking because I have been getting a strange call from a number starting 
>> 0333.
>> 
>> My second question concerns Mail on the Mac.
>> 
>> Not sure how to explain this.
>> When I press Enter on a message to read it, VoiceOver says message contents 
>> scroll area. But it will not read the actual message.
>> 
>> Anyway I hope this E-mail is OK.
>> 
>> Speak soon!
>> Gary Price
>> Sent from my 13 inch Macbook pro.
>> 
>> This address is for personal contact:
>> garypric...@icloud.com
>> 
>> Twitter:
>> http://www.twitter.com/gazwprice
>> 
>> -- 
>> You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups 
>> "MacVisionaries" group.
>> To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an 
>> email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com.
>> To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com.
>> Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries.
>> For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout.
> 
> -- 
> You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups 
> "MacVisionaries" group.
> To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an 
> email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com.
> To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com.
> Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries.
> For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout.

-- 
You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups 
"MacVisionaries" group.
To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email 
to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com.
To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com.
Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries.
For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout.

Re: Good monitor and keyboard for the mac

[Devin Prater]

So Apple can look at non-Apple products, like cheap logitech keyboards and 
Visio TVS? 

Sent from my iPhone

> On May 19, 2015, at 5:42 AM, Jonathan C Cohn  wrote:
> 
> I personally have heard great things about the Logitech keyboards. You can 
> actually pretty much use any USB keyboard, the primary difference between Mac 
> and Windows keyboards in the US is that the command and option keys by 
> default are reversed in order. This can be created in System Preferences.
> 
> If you do any amount of typing I would suggest not going cheep on the 
> keyboard. On the other hand if these are Apple products you currently have 
> and you live close enough to an Apple store it does not hurt to bring then in 
> for a Genius look. Apple gives free evaluations of issues. 
> 
>> On May 18, 2015, at 23:18, Devin Prater  wrote:
>> 
>> Hi all. So after a year or so in the case of the monitor and months in the 
>> case of the keyboard, they both have stopped working. The power part of the 
>> monitor ceased to function last week, and the control, escape, number 5, f8 
>> keys don't work anymore. So, I'd like advice on inexpensive but well-worth 
>> monitors and keyboard for the mac mini. I don't need a wireless keyboard, 
>> just one that'll stay good for at least a year.
>> 
>> Sent from my iPhone
>> 
>> -- 
>> You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups 
>> "MacVisionaries" group.
>> To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an 
>> email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com.
>> To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com.
>> Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries.
>> For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout.
> 
> -- 
> You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups 
> "MacVisionaries" group.
> To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an 
> email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com.
> To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com.
> Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries.
> For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout.

-- 
You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups 
"MacVisionaries" group.
To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email 
to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com.
To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com.
Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries.
For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout.

Re: Files Sometimes Going into Subfolders in Save Dialogs

[Alex Hall]

That's the odd thing, though. I've used that method before, to confirm that my 
file is going where I want, but it still ends up in a subfolder.
> On May 19, 2015, at 1:21 AM, Anne Robertson  wrote:
> 
> Hello Alex,
> 
> I’m not having your problem, but I can tell you how to check quickly that the 
> correct folder is selected.
> 
> After selecting your folder, stop interacting and navigate left past the side 
> bar and the search field and check what is selected in the pop up menu. It 
> should be the folder you’ve chosen.
> 
> Cheers,
> 
> Anne
> 
> 
>> On 18 May 2015, at 19:09, Alex Hall > > wrote:
>> 
>> Hi all,
>> I've been using a Mac for some years now, and I consider myself to be quite 
>> knowledgeable about OS X and VoiceOver. One thing I've never been able to 
>> nail down, though, is this: why do files sometimes go where I tell them to 
>> in OS X save dialogs, and sometimes end up in a subfolder inside the folder 
>> I decide on? I always use List View, and normally, that works in the most 
>> logical way: if you open a folder, things go in it. If you don't open it, 
>> even if you're pointing to it, nothing goes in there. Sometimes, though, 
>> List View will behave more like Column View, where pointing to a folder is 
>> enough to make things go into that folder. If it were always one or the 
>> other I'd be okay, but I can never know for sure if a file will go where I 
>> tell it or if I'll need to start hunting through all the subfolders of that 
>> folder to find where it went. Has anyone identified the reason this happens, 
>> and how to always be sure files go where I want them? Again, this is in any 
>> OS X dialog where you select a folder--save, export, save attachments, 
>> whatever it is. Thanks.
>> 
>> --
>> Have a great day,
>> Alex Hall
>> mehg...@icloud.com 
>> 
>> -- 
>> You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups 
>> "MacVisionaries" group.
>> To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an 
>> email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com 
>> .
>> To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com 
>> .
>> Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries 
>> .
>> For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout 
>> .
> 
> 
> -- 
> You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups 
> "MacVisionaries" group.
> To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an 
> email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com 
> .
> To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com 
> .
> Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries 
> .
> For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout 
> .


--
Have a great day,
Alex Hall
mehg...@icloud.com

-- 
You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups 
"MacVisionaries" group.
To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email 
to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com.
To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com.
Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries.
For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout.

Re: Ensuring correct file was attached before sending, and determine attachment formats

[Christine Grassman]

But will it attach or merely be placed in the text of the email that way? 

> On May 19, 2015, at 8:48 AM, Eugenia Firth  wrote:
> 
> Hi Kristi
> I have the same problem and so far is getting Yosemite to save the file when 
> I attach it. However I do my attachments with finder, so I don't have the 
> problem. What I do is in finder, I select the file I want and copy it to the 
> clipboard like I'm going to move the file or paste. Then when I open my new 
> message to write it, the first thing I do is press command v to paste it. In 
> this way, I have not had the problem of putting in the wrong file and to my 
> email.
> Gigi
> 
> Sent from my iPhone
> 
>> On May 19, 2015, at 7:32 AM, Christine Grassman  
>> wrote:
>> 
>> Hello all:
>> In the past, when I attached a file I could see the title and be certain the 
>> correct one had been chosen. It is in the list, of course, but imbedded in 
>> the email it merely says “attach image” and I cannot therefore double-check 
>> that the correct file was chosen. Is there a way to check this?  I am using 
>> Yosemite on a new Macbook Air.
>> 
>> Additionally, I am also noticing that no matter what type of attachment is 
>> sent to me, it says “image” which sometimes means it is an unreadable 
>> scanned image and sometimes means it is a perfectly readable document of 
>> another format, but there is no way to know until I do a “quick look” or 
>> save and open it. Again, is there a way to check the format beforehand?
>> Thanks in advance. 
>> 
>> 
>> -- 
>> You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups 
>> "MacVisionaries" group.
>> To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an 
>> email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com.
>> To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com.
>> Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries.
>> For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout.
> 
> -- 
> You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups 
> "MacVisionaries" group.
> To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an 
> email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com.
> To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com.
> Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries.
> For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout.

-- 
You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups 
"MacVisionaries" group.
To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email 
to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com.
To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com.
Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries.
For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout.

Re: PDF Pen reader for the Mac.

[Eugenia Firth]

Hi Nick
It's been a long time ago since I got this message from Greg, so I will see if 
I can find it sometime soon. I seem to remember it has to do with going into 
the tools menu. I know that what happens in that situation is that the program 
names the fields field one for you too, and that's what voiceover calls them. 
Then he said the side of person would go into the tools menu to find the place 
to rename the form fields

Sent from my iPhone

> On May 18, 2015, at 9:35 PM, Nicholas Parsons  
> wrote:
> 
> Hi Gigi,
> 
> Just referring to your below email. Could you please have a look for that 
> email from Greg? I’d be really interested in learning how sighted people are 
> supposed to rename the form fields as that’s exactly what I’m hoping to get 
> some people to do for me.
> 
> Thanks and best regards,
> Nic
> 
>> On 25 Apr 2015, at 1:06 am, Eugenia Firth  wrote:
>> 
>> Hi again.
>> I forgot to say that it has a very fast image OCR on it. If you have a pdf 
>> file that is an image, it automatically OCR’s the thing. The other thing is 
>> that Greg told me that a sighted person could, and I forgot exactly how he 
>> said to do this, go into an inaccessible file and rename the form fields. If 
>> you open a file that is not set up for us, and you tell the program to find 
>> the form fields, they don’t have names we can recognize; they are numbered. 
>> A sighted person can go in there and rename the fields. At least, that’s the 
>> way I understood it. 
>> 
>> Gigi
> 
> -- 
> You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups 
> "MacVisionaries" group.
> To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an 
> email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com.
> To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com.
> Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries.
> For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout.

-- 
You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups 
"MacVisionaries" group.
To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email 
to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com.
To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com.
Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries.
For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout.

ot: subscribe to group digest

[Joanne Chua]

Hi all,

how can I subscribe this group as a daily digest instead of individual emails?

I went to the googlegroups itself, but didn't seems to find it.

Regards
Joanne

-- 
You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups 
"MacVisionaries" group.
To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email 
to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com.
To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com.
Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries.
For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout.

Re: Ensuring correct file was attached before sending, and determine attachment formats

[Eugenia Firth]

Hi Kristi
I have the same problem and so far is getting Yosemite to save the file when I 
attach it. However I do my attachments with finder, so I don't have the 
problem. What I do is in finder, I select the file I want and copy it to the 
clipboard like I'm going to move the file or paste. Then when I open my new 
message to write it, the first thing I do is press command v to paste it. In 
this way, I have not had the problem of putting in the wrong file and to my 
email.
Gigi

Sent from my iPhone

> On May 19, 2015, at 7:32 AM, Christine Grassman  
> wrote:
> 
> Hello all:
> In the past, when I attached a file I could see the title and be certain the 
> correct one had been chosen. It is in the list, of course, but imbedded in 
> the email it merely says “attach image” and I cannot therefore double-check 
> that the correct file was chosen. Is there a way to check this?  I am using 
> Yosemite on a new Macbook Air.
> 
> Additionally, I am also noticing that no matter what type of attachment is 
> sent to me, it says “image” which sometimes means it is an unreadable scanned 
> image and sometimes means it is a perfectly readable document of another 
> format, but there is no way to know until I do a “quick look” or save and 
> open it. Again, is there a way to check the format beforehand?
> Thanks in advance. 
> 
> 
> -- 
> You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups 
> "MacVisionaries" group.
> To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an 
> email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com.
> To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com.
> Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries.
> For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout.

-- 
You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups 
"MacVisionaries" group.
To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email 
to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com.
To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com.
Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries.
For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout.

Ensuring correct file was attached before sending, and determine attachment formats

[Christine Grassman]

Hello all:
In the past, when I attached a file I could see the title and be certain the 
correct one had been chosen. It is in the list, of course, but imbedded in the 
email it merely says “attach image” and I cannot therefore double-check that 
the correct file was chosen. Is there a way to check this?  I am using Yosemite 
on a new Macbook Air.

Additionally, I am also noticing that no matter what type of attachment is sent 
to me, it says “image” which sometimes means it is an unreadable scanned image 
and sometimes means it is a perfectly readable document of another format, but 
there is no way to know until I do a “quick look” or save and open it. Again, 
is there a way to check the format beforehand?
Thanks in advance. 


-- 
You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups 
"MacVisionaries" group.
To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email 
to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com.
To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com.
Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries.
For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout.

Re: updating Adobe Flash Player

[Jenine Stanley]

Yep, that’s where I found and updated it successfully. Thanks!
Jenine Stanley
dragonwalke...@gmail.com



> On May 18, 2015, at 6:26 PM, Tim Kilburn  wrote:
> 
> Hi,
> 
> There will be a Flash Player pane in System Preferences if Flash is installed 
> on your Mac, otherwise, you’re correct, it won’t be there.
> 
> Later...
> 
> Tim Kilburn
> Fort McMurray, AB Canada
> 
> On May 17, 2015, at 13:36, Shaf  wrote:
> 
> There is no 'Flash Player' in System Preferences.
> 
> On 5/17/2015 8:31 PM, jeff `greene wrote:
>> Hi Jenine, the way i do it is goto system prefs, flashplayer, click on
>> the update tab and hit the update now (or maybe it says check for
>> updates). After that its pretty much automatic. In fact, adobe usually
>> sets flash to auto update in which case you don't have to do anything.
>> HTH Jeff
>> 
>> 
>> On 5/17/15, Jenine Stanley  wrote:
>>> So I keep getting a notice to update Adobe Flash Player and the video I’m
>>> trying to view says I need to update it.
>>> 
>>> All I get is a text box saying “Adobe Update Manager” and then I can tab or
>>> VO-right arrow to something just labeled Image that I can’t interact with.
>>> 
>>> I’m sure we’ve covered this before but how do you update this player? I even
>>> looked for it in applications and didn’t find it.
>>> 
>>> Thanks.
>>> Jenine Stanley
>>> dragonwalke...@gmail.com
>>> 
>>> 
>>> 
>>> --
>>> You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups
>>> "MacVisionaries" group.
>>> To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an
>>> email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com.
>>> To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com.
>>> Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries.
>>> For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout.
>>> 
> 
> -- 
> You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups 
> "MacVisionaries" group.
> To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an 
> email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com.
> To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com.
> Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries.
> For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout.
> 
> -- 
> You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups 
> "MacVisionaries" group.
> To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an 
> email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com.
> To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com.
> Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries.
> For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout.

-- 
You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups 
"MacVisionaries" group.
To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email 
to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com.
To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com.
Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries.
For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout.

two problems

[jeff `greene]

Hi, Since I reformatted my hdd and re-installed OSX I'm having two
strange problems.
1. I use stuffit expander to unarchive .rar files. Sometimes now if I
hit open on a .rar file vlc opens and then has a coniption fit because
its trying to play the file. Any idea how I can fix this?
2 Since my re-install of OSX my Canon scanner is no longer recognized
when I plug it in. Any ideas how I can fix this?
Thanks, Jeff

-- 
You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups 
"MacVisionaries" group.
To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email 
to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com.
To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com.
Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries.
For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout.

Re: Good monitor and keyboard for the mac

[Jonathan C Cohn]

 I personally have heard great things about the Logitech keyboards. You can 
actually pretty much use any USB keyboard, the primary difference between Mac 
and Windows keyboards in the US is that the command and option keys by default 
are reversed in order. This can be created in System Preferences.

If you do any amount of typing I would suggest not going cheep on the keyboard. 
On the other hand if these are Apple products you currently have and you live 
close enough to an Apple store it does not hurt to bring then in for a Genius 
look. Apple gives free evaluations of issues. 

> On May 18, 2015, at 23:18, Devin Prater  wrote:
> 
> Hi all. So after a year or so in the case of the monitor and months in the 
> case of the keyboard, they both have stopped working. The power part of the 
> monitor ceased to function last week, and the control, escape, number 5, f8 
> keys don't work anymore. So, I'd like advice on inexpensive but well-worth 
> monitors and keyboard for the mac mini. I don't need a wireless keyboard, 
> just one that'll stay good for at least a year.
> 
> Sent from my iPhone
> 
> -- 
> You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups 
> "MacVisionaries" group.
> To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an 
> email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com.
> To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com.
> Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries.
> For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout.

-- 
You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups 
"MacVisionaries" group.
To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email 
to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com.
To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com.
Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries.
For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout.

Re: Secure USB Drive

[Marshall Scott]

Hi, Tracy,
if you really want security on a USB drive, you should check out the hardware 
encrypted USB drives.  I use Kingston drives and they are accessible on OS X 
and Windows 7.  The advantage is that these drives require a password to mount 
the drives.  The disadvantage is that if you forget your password, there is no 
way to recover your data.  And,if someone tries to guess your password, the 
drive is erased after a number of times.
Also, TrueCrypt is no longer being developed/supported.
HTH Marshall

> On May 17, 2015, at 2:37 PM, Traci Duncan  wrote:
> 
> Hi all, I have been googling on various options for having a cross platform 
> secure USB drive.  What do you recommend?  If possible, I’d like a solution 
> that utilizes my existing USB stick.  Though, I’m open to purchasing a new 
> USB drive with security built-in.
> 
> Thank you,
> Traci
> 
> -- 
> You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups 
> "MacVisionaries" group.
> To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an 
> email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com.
> To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com.
> Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries.
> For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout.

-- 
You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups 
"MacVisionaries" group.
To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email 
to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com.
To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com.
Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries.
For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout.

Re: Microsoft Office for Mac 2016 Preview | Accessibility of Tables in MS Word

[Sean Murphy]

I have already reported this as a bug to Ms. Tables are worse in the latest 
release. I need to try Andy suggestion but you shouldn’t have to do this.

Also there is navigation problems with documents if you scroll up by line by 
line when in print view mode. Sometimes you cannot move to the next page and 
other times you can. If you are in draft mode you do not get this issue.

A lot more to test here.

Sean 
> On 19 May 2015, at 3:45 pm, Nicholas Parsons  
> wrote:
> 
> Hi list,
> 
> Just downloaded the preview, and accessibility seems pretty good on first 
> glance when creating simple documents, even when using some of the built-in 
> templates.
> 
> However, I tried using Word to open some existing documents I was working on 
> at work, but couldn’t seem to interact with the tables.
> 
> Has anyone else played around with tables in the new MS Word preview? Did you 
> have any luck, or did you have difficulties like me?
> 
> Thanks for your comments. 
> 
> -- 
> You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups 
> "MacVisionaries" group.
> To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an 
> email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com.
> To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com.
> Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries.
> For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout.

-- 
You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups 
"MacVisionaries" group.
To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email 
to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com.
To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com.
Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries.
For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout.

Re: Introduction and a couple of questions.

[christopher hallsworth]

Hi Gary

Welcome to this list!

I actually use the preview pain in Mail to read my messages. All you do is 
highlight a message, vo-right until you either hear the message headers such as 
from and to or the message content itself. Then vo-shift-down arrow to 
interact. You may then have to VO-right arrow until you hear what sounds like 
the message content. Note if you land on the first message, you can't always 
read using standard arrow keys. But if you press delete and the next message is 
displayed, you can read with standard arrow keys. By "standard" I mean without 
VO keys.

Just another option to explore besides what has been offered already.


> On 18 May 2015, at 21:43, Gary Price  wrote:
> 
> Hello everyone.
> 
> My name is Gary Price.
> I live in the United Kingdom, in a town in Lancashire called Bolton.
> Just a quick E-mail introducing myself really.
> 
> I have been blind all my life. I got into the Mac through a friend Lewis 
> Crack in Kettering.
> 
> He sold me his old one, but this went lets just say a bit pair shaped, so I 
> now have a new 13 inch Macbook Pro.
> 
> I have a couple of questions before I sign off.
> 
> My first one is you know if Apple needs to contact you, what number do they 
> start with over in the United Kingdom?
> Asking because I have been getting a strange call from a number starting 0333.
> 
> My second question concerns Mail on the Mac.
> 
> Not sure how to explain this.
> When I press Enter on a message to read it, VoiceOver says message contents 
> scroll area. But it will not read the actual message.
> 
> Anyway I hope this E-mail is OK.
> 
> Speak soon!
> Gary Price
> Sent from my 13 inch Macbook pro.
> 
> This address is for personal contact:
> garypric...@icloud.com
> 
> Twitter:
> http://www.twitter.com/gazwprice
> 
> -- 
> You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups 
> "MacVisionaries" group.
> To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an 
> email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com.
> To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com.
> Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries.
> For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout.

-- 
You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups 
"MacVisionaries" group.
To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email 
to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com.
To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com.
Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries.
For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout.

Re: Microsoft Office for Mac 2016 Preview | Accessibility of Tables in MS Word

[Andrew Lamanche]

The way I dealt with tables was to resave the same document but in the doc with 
macros format, .docm.  I've not seen this format before but it is there in the 
pop up button for the format of the documents.  Then you should be able to 
interact with the tables.  You won't even have to interact with it, VoiceOver 
will automatically do this and then you can use tab or just arrow keys to move 
round in the table.

This is how it was in the previous version of the Word preview, I've not tried 
this in the latest update.

Andrew
> On 19 May 2015, at 06:45, Nicholas Parsons  
> wrote:
> 
> Hi list,
> 
> Just downloaded the preview, and accessibility seems pretty good on first 
> glance when creating simple documents, even when using some of the built-in 
> templates.
> 
> However, I tried using Word to open some existing documents I was working on 
> at work, but couldn’t seem to interact with the tables.
> 
> Has anyone else played around with tables in the new MS Word preview? Did you 
> have any luck, or did you have difficulties like me?
> 
> Thanks for your comments. 
> 
> -- 
> You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups 
> "MacVisionaries" group.
> To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an 
> email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com.
> To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com.
> Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries.
> For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout.

-- 
You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups 
"MacVisionaries" group.
To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email 
to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com.
To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com.
Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries.
For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout.