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[Marie Lyons]

Somehow the volume on calls is at 0. Does anyone know how to turn it up? I 
double tapped the screen and then flicked up but it remained at 0.

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Re: misspelled word announcement while reading E-mail

[Kristeen Hughes]

Thank you for this, John.

Kristeen


> On Apr 10, 2018, at 3:17 PM, John Panarese  wrote:
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>   If it's the Mac, you will need to go into VoiceOver Utility and under the 
> Verbosity category, choose the, Text Tab. There will be a popup button for 
> telling VO what you want it to do with misspelled words. Change it to either, 
> do nothing, or, play tone.
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>> On Apr 10, 2018, at 3:04 PM, Kristeen Hughes > > wrote:
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>> This is happening to a friend of mine who is learning the Mac. I seem to 
>> remember that I did something to make it stop, but I don’t remember what it 
>> is. I looked in E-mail settings, but even under “spelling and grammar” there 
>> is nothing that we try that works. Does anyone have an answer. Thanks a lot.
>> 
>> Also, thank you for all of the answers you all provide. I so appreciate all 
>> of your wondrous brain cells.
>> 
>> Kristeen
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Re: Admin Account

[E.T.]

Simon,
   I am good now but still need to resolve issues later on. Will post 
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On 4/12/2018 3:51 AM, Simon Fogarty wrote:

Hi ET,

  Do you already have admin rights on the machine?

Single usermode unless this has changed since el cap doesn't work well for 
access other than a magnifier
  
If you have admin rights already you could create one through the usual way of users and groups,

  Or possibly through the recovery console / terminal to reset password

What is it we're working with.

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 Latest High Sierra. I need to create an admin account. I think this means 
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Re: Admin Account

[E.T.]

   Jonathan, glad you caught this.

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On 4/12/2018 7:08 AM, Jonathan Cohn wrote:
Quick minor correction here, I believe that the files starting with a 
period are not listed when using the ls command, unless you specify the 
dash a option.


So I believe the command should be ls -a /var/db

take care,

Jonathan  Cohn
On Apr 12, 2018, at 12:46 AM, Tim Kilburn > wrote:


Hi,

Try this:

• Restart your Mac into Recovery mode.
• Go up to the Menubar, to Utilities and down to Terminal.
• In Terminal enter "ls /var/db" then press return.
• Navigate through the resulting list and see if there is an item 
named ".AppleSetupDone".

• if there is, then our job is to remove it.
• Type rm /var/db/.AppleSetupDone
• Type ls /var/db again and check the resulting list.
• if that file is gone, life is good.
• Quit Terminal and restart your Mac.

If that doesn't allow you access to the .AppleSetupDone file, then I'd 
use an external HD with MacOS installed to startup from.  Then using 
the same commands in Terminal, remove the .AppleSetupDone file from 
the internal drive.  Because you've started from an external source, 
you'll need to first switch over to the internal drive by using the 
command "cd /volumes/Macintosh\ HD.  The back slash is required when 
there is a space in the volume title as we don't want Terminal to read 
that space for other purposes.


I haven't done this in a while, so can confirm the first method 
tomorrow morning on a different machine than this one.  The second 
method would work for sure.


Later...

Tim Kilburn
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Fort McMurray, AB Canada

On Apr 11, 2018, at 21:06, E.T. > wrote:


  Ever done clean installs? I installed HS soon after its release. 
Google will bring up this issue in the first couple months after release.


  I wish I could confirm for a fact I either had the admin account 
then or not. I do not now, just my normal user account. Simon, time 
for you to show up!


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On 4/11/2018 7:21 PM, Jonathan Cohn wrote:
Really! I have had two accounts on my MacOS X systems one regular and 
one admin since before there was VoiceOver available. Certainly when 
I did my upgrades my standard account stayed standard and my admin 
account stayed admin. In Sierra and Earlier it was impossible to 
finish an install unless one of the accounts was an admin account. I 
don’t believe one can install any programs in /Applications unless 
you have an admin account. Well, perhaps Simon will have an idea for 
you so just hang in there and wait for the sun to rise on NZ.
On Apr 11, 2018, at 9:56 PM, E.T. > wrote:


  No I did not realize I had no admin account. Until now I had no 
need for it. Evidently this was a common problem when HS was first 
released.


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On 4/11/2018 6:51 PM, Jonathan Cohn wrote:
Is the current admin account not working on your system? If you 
lost the password for the admin account on your computer you might 
be able to use password recovery tools in the recovery partition, 
but I have never been very successful with this.
Or do you need “super root” privileges to get around parts of the 
filesystem that relocked to all software except the installer 
application?

Best Wishes,
Jonathan
On Apr 11, 2018, at 9:20 PM, E.T. > wrote:


  Latest High Sierra. I need to create an admin account. I think 
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Re: Custom Ringtones

[E.T.]

   That could be. I had the same results and did not have any tones not 
already in the Tones folder.


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Hi,

It seems that there's a bug in iTunes.  Even though the Tones reside on 
your iPhone, they're not showing up.  You can copy new ones over, and 
the Tones table will populate with the new ones, but I don't think that 
they really transfer properly.  When I did a copy of tones over to the 
iPhone, they just said "Copying" forever.  That may be because the tones 
already exist, but I'm not sure yet.  In any case, things aren't working 
totally as they should.


Later...

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Fort McMurray, AB Canada

On Apr 9, 2018, at 09:00, E.T. > wrote:


   Did that and still no tones showing up. Will try again in a while 
when I hsve more time.


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Hi,
You need to check the box to manually manage videos that is located in 
the Summary pane when the iPhone is connected to the Mac.  Once that 
checkbox is checked and that settings has been applied, then you can 
delete custom ring-tones.

Later...
Tim Kilburn
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  While looking at this, I find I cannot delete custom ringtones that 
are on my iPhone due to running iTunes 12.7. With the device 
connected, and browsing to the Tones item under Devices in the 
sidebar, there are no tones to be seen. How to delete them?

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Hi,
Check out this link.
https://www.quora.com/How-do-I-add-a-custom-ringtone-to-iMessages-on-a-Macbook-Pro-running-Mac-OS-X-Yosemite
It is for Yosemite, but I don't believe that things have changed much 
in that respect in High Sierra.

Later...
Tim Kilburn
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  I wish to assign the same custom ringtones to my Mac contacts the 
same as on my iPhone contacts. When I view the list of ringtones in 
the Mac contacts I do not see the custom ringtones. They still exist 
in the Tones folder in the iTunes library. How do I add them so they 
show up in the Mac contacts? Thanks.

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Re: Further to my question about playing external audio files on my Macbook

[Steve Matzura]

May I make two more suggestions, and this time they're people, not 
books. Tim Kilburn of this list is an Apple teacher, I'd bet he could 
sort you in a New York minute via Skype or some other non-batch chat 
exchange, and if he's too far west timewise to be convenient to work 
with, I offer my own expertise such that it is via the same media. I'm 
not yet an ACSP, but should be taking the exam by June, so while I'm 
probably not as good as Tim, I'm closer.



On 4/12/2018 4:34 PM, 'andy' via MacVisionaries wrote:

Hi all.
Thanks to everyone who has written to offer me some help with this 
learning curve, of playing media files on my Macbook.
Unfortunately, it seems that I have multiple issues going on at the 
moment and this is perhaps why I'm experiencing all these other 
problems with my Macbook.
For you who have written to me, I've saved your messages and plan to 
be able to return to them after these other problems can be resolved.
Perhaps my biggest problem is that I live on the West Coast of 
Scotland, some 55 miles north of Glasgow and my nearest VI tech guy.
I cannot get him to visit my home, because he has a standard guide 
dog, whereas, I have a specially trained off-road guide dog that can 
cope with my rural environment as well as the streets of a busy 
Glasgow, so I'm obliged to make an appointment , visit him and secure 
his support  and get help, before I can even think of playing media files.
One of my initial problems is an announcement saying something like 
"This computer cannot connect to Cloud because of a problem with your 
btinternet.com account"!  I've noticed this same message a couple of 
miles away in my local bar, though thought that it was simply 
attempting to connect with my Roughter in my house and I was 2 miles away.
There is no way that I can even begin to sort this out so need to get 
that sorted before progressing to playing media files.
So my next plan is to secure this help in the hope that my problems 
can be resolved away from my home.
I did get all devices set up in Icloud months ago, so perhaps if the 
problems can be resolved on my Macbook, then my Imac will just pick 
these up.
So for the meantime guys, I'll have to disappear for a while but I 
will keep your files and hopefully be able to have a go at playing 
media files on my Apple equipment later.

.
Thanks again for your patience and support.
Very best wishes.
Andy.
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Re: Playing audio media on my Macbook

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Hi,

Yeah, I totally understand.  I don't use the Sidebar much at all myself.  I 
much prefer those sorts of items to reside on my Desktop.  My sighted daughter 
prefers the Sidebar.  I guess that is why they are called preferences.

Later...

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On Apr 12, 2018, at 17:36, Steve Matzura  wrote:

You are correct, I misstated, because I never think about the sidebar, which 
does not appear on my screen.

On 4/12/2018 4:29 PM, Tim Kilburn wrote:
> Hi,
> 
> This is actually not a valid statement.  The drives and other external media 
> always show up in the Finder, it is simply the location or style of "Showing 
> up" that is handled by the Finder Preferences.  By default, these items show 
> up in the Sidebar of any open Finder window as opposed to appearing on the 
> Desktop itself.  This, therefore, keeps the Desktop less cluttered from some 
> people's point of view.  Many of us long time Mac users prefer the items to 
> be on the Desktop itself, but many other users, as well as a lot of sighted 
> users prefer to just access these items through the Sidebar.  VO users can 
> also access these items via the Sidebar, but most of us find it easier to 
> place these sorts of items on our Desktop, either for convenience or due to 
> being accustomed to operating that way.
> 
> Later...
> 
> Tim Kilburn
> Apple Teacher
> Fort McMurray, AB Canada
> 
> On Apr 12, 2018, at 13:58, Steve Matzura  > wrote:
> 
> Remember, drives don't show up in Finder by default. This is something about 
> which I have never fully comes to intellectual grips. If one were to buy a 
> Mac, bring it home, turn it on, and start  using it, drives appear in Finder; 
> if one were to install the Mac operating system from scratch, taking all the 
> defaults with the exception of File Vault and storing the Documents directory 
> in the cloud, no drives appear in Finder unless and until they are told to do 
> so.
> 
> 
> On 4/12/2018 3:08 PM, christopher hallsworth wrote:
>> Hi Andy let's start with the basics, in the Finder you should see any 
>> external media by default, thumb drives included. Unlike Windows, macOS 
>> automatically mounts these external disks and places them in the Finder. 
>> Once you have located this, press command-o to open the volume. Note I will 
>> not use CMD at this stage for simplicity's sake.
>> 
>>> On 12 Apr 2018, at 10:48, 'andy' via MacVisionaries 
>>> mailto:macvisionaries@googlegroups.com>> 
>>> wrote:
>>> 
>>> Hi all.
>>>  In brief, I'm a very determined and apparently reluctant learning of the 
>>> Apple operating system.
>>>  I've been using windows since Dos 3.1 and like many people, I am afraid of 
>>> this new system.
>>>  I Purchased a 27 Imac and a Macbook pro about 2 years ago and have hardly 
>>> moved in my learning.
>>>  Despite buying a great book, titled, Janet Ingber - Everything You Need to 
>>> Know to Use the Mac , I cannot get the motivation to "Use the mac"!
>>>  My fingers tremble at my Macbook and I'm so afraid of doing something 
>>> wrong, I'm paralysed.
>>>  So I'm thinking that I should try something really simple.
>>>  I'm addicted by the way to talking books, so lets look at that  as a 
>>> method to break the ice.
>>>  I've placed the above book on a thumb drive but every time I plug it into 
>>> my Macbook, absolutely nothing happens, so I cannot access this media.
>>>  On a Windows computer I'm asked "What do you want your computer to do?".
>>>  So if anyone can tell me how to access a thumb drive and be able to go 
>>> through some of the easy chapters of this book then listen to them, it may 
>>> be enough to finally break my spirit and get me started, hahaha.
>>>  Sorry guys for the long message but I'm sure you have all heard it before.
>>>  Very best wishes.
>>>  Andy.
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Re: MacOs couldn't be installed

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Hi,

It sounds like you'll need to reinstall MacOS High Sierra.  If you cannot 
enable VoiceOver at this dialog, press and hold the power button for about 5 to 
7 seconds.  This should force your Mac to shut down.  Wait for about 5 seconds 
then press the power button to start it up.  Right after you press the power 
button, hold down the cmd (Command) and "r" keys simultaneously and keep then 
down through the Startup chime and for an additional 2 to 3 seconds, then 
release.  Wait for a minute or two as the Recovery system loads.  Press cmd-f5 
to turn on VoiceOver.  If it does not turn on, wait for another minute or so 
then try again.  VoiceOver should turn on at this point.  Once it is on, follow 
the prompts for the language, then at the MacOS Utilities window, select the 
Reinstall Mac OS X High Sierra item and press Continue.  It should ask you to 
agree to terms and such and may ask for a password.  If it seems to be sitting 
there for a long time without any noticeable progress, use the Window Chooser 
to see if there's something waiting for your input.  Allow it to progress 
through the installation process and allow it to restart.  It's possible that 
it may restart multiple times, so do not interrupt the installation.  Try 
turning on VoiceOver if it's not already on, if it does not speak, wait a while 
longer and try again.  Do not turn off the Mac during the installation process 
unless you've been sitting there for hours without any change in status.  If 
you have the Seeing AI app or something similar, check what is presented on the 
screen if you're unable to have VO tell you.

HTH.

Later...

Tim Kilburn
Apple Teacher
Fort McMurray, AB Canada

On Apr 12, 2018, at 17:30, masood bamyani  wrote:

You’re right it says that the resources could not be found but it tells me quit 
and restart  I cannot restart my Mac to go to apple menu VoiceOver doesn’t 
Compass up 

MD

On Apr 12, 2018, at 12:31 PM, Tim Kilburn mailto:kilbu...@me.com>> wrote:

> Hi,
> 
> So, I'm assuming that it actually said something about "resources not being 
> found" as opposed to "recourses".  When you go to the Apple menu and choose 
> About this Mac, what version of MacOS does it claim that you now have?
> 
> Later...
> 
> Tim Kilburn
> Apple Teacher
> Fort McMurray, AB Canada
> 
> On Apr 12, 2018, at 13:19, masood bamyani  > wrote:
> 
> Macbook pro 2015 8gb ram
> 
> MD
> 
> On Apr 12, 2018, at 8:39 AM, Tim Kilburn  > wrote:
> 
>> Hi,
>> 
>> What model of Mac is this message appearing on?  How much memory is on board?
>> 
>> Later...
>> 
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>> 
>> On Apr 12, 2018, at 01:23, masood B > > wrote:
>> 
>> hello all. I recently updated my mac to the latest OS but MacBook pro says 
>> MacOs couldn't be installed on your computer the recourses can be found. 
>> what should I do? this erorr comes up at the log in screen. thanks
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Re: Playing audio media on my Macbook

[Steve Matzura]

You are correct, I misstated, because I never think about the sidebar, 
which does not appear on my screen.



On 4/12/2018 4:29 PM, Tim Kilburn wrote:

Hi,

This is actually not a valid statement.  The drives and other external 
media always show up in the Finder, it is simply the location or style 
of "Showing up" that is handled by the Finder Preferences.  By 
default, these items show up in the Sidebar of any open Finder window 
as opposed to appearing on the Desktop itself.  This, therefore, keeps 
the Desktop less cluttered from some people's point of view.  Many of 
us long time Mac users prefer the items to be on the Desktop itself, 
but many other users, as well as a lot of sighted users prefer to just 
access these items through the Sidebar.  VO users can also access 
these items via the Sidebar, but most of us find it easier to place 
these sorts of items on our Desktop, either for convenience or due to 
being accustomed to operating that way.


Later...

Tim Kilburn
Apple Teacher
Fort McMurray, AB Canada

On Apr 12, 2018, at 13:58, Steve Matzura > wrote:


Remember, drives don't show up in Finder by default. This is something 
about which I have never fully comes to intellectual grips. If one 
were to buy a Mac, bring it home, turn it on, and start  using it, 
drives appear in Finder; if one were to install the Mac operating 
system from scratch, taking all the defaults with the exception of 
File Vault and storing the Documents directory in the cloud, no drives 
appear in Finder unless and until they are told to do so.



On 4/12/2018 3:08 PM, christopher hallsworth wrote:
Hi Andy let's start with the basics, in the Finder you should see any 
external media by default, thumb drives included. Unlike Windows, 
macOS automatically mounts these external disks and places them in 
the Finder. Once you have located this, press command-o to open the 
volume. Note I will not use CMD at this stage for simplicity's sake.


On 12 Apr 2018, at 10:48, 'andy' via MacVisionaries 
> wrote:


Hi all.
 In brief, I'm a very determined and apparently reluctant learning 
of the Apple operating system.
 I've been using windows since Dos 3.1 and like many people, I am 
afraid of this new system.
 I Purchased a 27 Imac and a Macbook pro about 2 years ago and have 
hardly moved in my learning.
 Despite buying a great book, titled, Janet Ingber - Everything You 
Need to Know to Use the Mac , I cannot get the motivation to "Use 
the mac"!
 My fingers tremble at my Macbook and I'm so afraid of doing 
something wrong, I'm paralysed.

 So I'm thinking that I should try something really simple.
 I'm addicted by the way to talking books, so lets look at that  as 
a method to break the ice.
 I've placed the above book on a thumb drive but every time I plug 
it into my Macbook, absolutely nothing happens, so I cannot access 
this media.
 On a Windows computer I'm asked "What do you want your computer to 
do?".
 So if anyone can tell me how to access a thumb drive and be able to 
go through some of the easy chapters of this book then listen to 
them, it may be enough to finally break my spirit and get me 
started, hahaha.
 Sorry guys for the long message but I'm sure you have all heard it 
before.

 Very best wishes.
 Andy.
From Scotland with Love.

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Re: MacOs couldn't be installed

[masood bamyani]

You’re right it says that the resources could not be found but it tells me quit 
and restart  I cannot restart my Mac to go to apple menu VoiceOver doesn’t 
Compass up 

MD

> On Apr 12, 2018, at 12:31 PM, Tim Kilburn  wrote:
> 
> Hi,
> 
> So, I'm assuming that it actually said something about "resources not being 
> found" as opposed to "recourses".  When you go to the Apple menu and choose 
> About this Mac, what version of MacOS does it claim that you now have?
> 
> Later...
> 
> Tim Kilburn
> Apple Teacher
> Fort McMurray, AB Canada
> 
> On Apr 12, 2018, at 13:19, masood bamyani  wrote:
> 
> Macbook pro 2015 8gb ram
> 
> MD
> 
>> On Apr 12, 2018, at 8:39 AM, Tim Kilburn  wrote:
>> 
>> Hi,
>> 
>> What model of Mac is this message appearing on?  How much memory is on board?
>> 
>> Later...
>> 
>> Tim Kilburn
>> Apple Teacher
>> Fort McMurray, AB Canada
>> 
>> On Apr 12, 2018, at 01:23, masood B  wrote:
>> 
>> hello all. I recently updated my mac to the latest OS but MacBook pro says 
>> MacOs couldn't be installed on your computer the recourses can be found. 
>> what should I do? this erorr comes up at the log in screen. thanks
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Re: Custom Ringtones

[Tim Kilburn]

Hi,

It seems that there's a bug in iTunes.  Even though the Tones reside on your 
iPhone, they're not showing up.  You can copy new ones over, and the Tones 
table will populate with the new ones, but I don't think that they really 
transfer properly.  When I did a copy of tones over to the iPhone, they just 
said "Copying" forever.  That may be because the tones already exist, but I'm 
not sure yet.  In any case, things aren't working totally as they should.

Later...

Tim Kilburn
Apple Teacher
Fort McMurray, AB Canada

On Apr 9, 2018, at 09:00, E.T.  wrote:

  Did that and still no tones showing up. Will try again in a while when I hsve 
more time.

>From E.T.'s Keyboard...
  ancient.ali...@icloud.com
Many believe that we have been visited
in the past. What if it were true?

On 4/8/2018 9:57 PM, Tim Kilburn wrote:
> Hi,
> You need to check the box to manually manage videos that is located in the 
> Summary pane when the iPhone is connected to the Mac.  Once that checkbox is 
> checked and that settings has been applied, then you can delete custom 
> ring-tones.
> Later...
> Tim Kilburn
> Fort McMurray, AB Canada
> On Apr 8, 2018, at 22:34, E.T.  wrote:
>   While looking at this, I find I cannot delete custom ringtones that are on 
> my iPhone due to running iTunes 12.7. With the device connected, and browsing 
> to the Tones item under Devices in the sidebar, there are no tones to be 
> seen. How to delete them?
> From E.T.'s Keyboard...
>   ancient.ali...@icloud.com
> Many believe that we have been visited
> in the past. What if it were true?
> On 4/8/2018 10:15 AM, Tim Kilburn wrote:
>> Hi,
>> Check out this link.
>> https://www.quora.com/How-do-I-add-a-custom-ringtone-to-iMessages-on-a-Macbook-Pro-running-Mac-OS-X-Yosemite
>> It is for Yosemite, but I don't believe that things have changed much in 
>> that respect in High Sierra.
>> Later...
>> Tim Kilburn
>> Fort McMurray, AB Canada
>> On Apr 8, 2018, at 10:46, E.T.  wrote:
>>   I wish to assign the same custom ringtones to my Mac contacts the same as 
>> on my iPhone contacts. When I view the list of ringtones in the Mac contacts 
>> I do not see the custom ringtones. They still exist in the Tones folder in 
>> the iTunes library. How do I add them so they show up in the Mac contacts? 
>> Thanks.
>> From E.T.'s Keyboard...
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Re: Navigating messages inside the Mac mail app

[Tim Kilburn]

Hi,

I don't believe that this is possible with VO in the modern view.

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On Apr 12, 2018, at 16:34, Ramy Moustafa  wrote:

Thanks so much Dear.
I like the mail view now, but all i need is when navigating , i need ot know 
the subject before the person’s name that are i inside the thread.
that is all i need.


> On Apr 12, 2018, at 8:18 PM, Bill Gallik  > wrote:
> 
> Hi Ramy,
> 
> It’s tough to offer any helpful thoughts on this without knowing what it is 
> about the Classic View that you dislike.  If you could give a bit more detail 
> I’m certain someone on this list can offer some tips.  Huh, it may even be 
> me! 😯
> 
> 
> - Bill from Ino, Wisconsin
> - "Always acknowledge a fault. This will throw those in authority off their 
> guard and give you an opportunity to commit more."
> - US Humorist, Mark Twain (1835 - 1910)
> 
> On Apr 12, 2018, at 12:06 PM, Ramy Moustafa  > wrote:
> 
> Hi Bill:
> Thanks so much, i tried it now,
> it’s there, and i tried it.
> but frankly i don’t like this view at all, so, is there a way to know the 
> subject without using the classic view?
> thanks in advance 
> 
>> On Apr 12, 2018, at 1:20 PM, Bill Gallik > > wrote:
>> 
>> Hi Ramy,
>> 
>> When you are in the mail application, use +<,> (That’s the COMMAND 
>> key along with the COMMA key)to place you directly in the Preferences dialog 
>> for mail.  The ToolBar will have a number of buttons - “View” included.  
>> Select that button and you will find the “Classic View” check box as the 
>> first item in this dialog; make certain that checkbox is indeed checked and 
>> close the dialog.
>> 
>> HTH
>> 
>> 
>> 
>> - Bill from Ino, Wisconsin
>> - "Reality is the leading cause of stress for those who are in touch with 
>> it.” 
>> - Jane Wagner
>> - American writer, director and producer, 1935-
>> 
>> 
>> 
>> 
>> On Apr 12, 2018, at 3:49 AM, Ramy Moustafa > > wrote:
>> 
>> Hi:
>> 
>> ok, thanks, but how can i change my self to Classic view?
>> i tried but can not find any classic view inside the view menu
>> thanks in advance 
>> 
>>> On Apr 12, 2018, at 3:48 AM, Jonathan Cohn >> > wrote:
>>> 
>>> Hello,
>>> 
>>> My understanding is that this can be done as a sighted person, can be done 
>>> if you classic view, or I believe I had a AppleScript that would change the 
>>> order.
>>> 
>>> For the sighted I understand that the columns can be dragged, but none of 
>>> the VoiceOver techniques for dragging appear to work for doing this, unless 
>>> you are in classic view.
>>> If you look at the “Message Attributes” sub-menu of the view menu, most of 
>>> the items there are greyed out, indicating they can not be changed.
>>> Best Wishes,
>>> 
>>> Jonathan 
>>> 
 On Apr 11, 2018, at 6:34 PM, Ramy Moustafa >>> > wrote:
 
 Hi all:
 
 sorry if i asked this question before, but i still can not perform, what 
 you told me.
 When navigating through a mailing list, i don’t want to here Voice over 
 says:
 10 messages from so and so and so.
 I need to know the subject before knowing the names.
 is there a way to do this?
 
 also, if i need to send an email to someone that he was replying on   
 mailinglist, how can i do that?
 
 Thanks in advance 
 
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Re: Navigating messages inside the Mac mail app

[Ramy Moustafa]

Thanks so much Dear.
I like the mail view now, but all i need is when navigating , i need ot know 
the subject before the person’s name that are i inside the thread.
that is all i need.


> On Apr 12, 2018, at 8:18 PM, Bill Gallik  wrote:
> 
> Hi Ramy,
> 
> It’s tough to offer any helpful thoughts on this without knowing what it is 
> about the Classic View that you dislike.  If you could give a bit more detail 
> I’m certain someone on this list can offer some tips.  Huh, it may even be 
> me! 😯
> 
> 
> - Bill from Ino, Wisconsin
> - "Always acknowledge a fault. This will throw those in authority off their 
> guard and give you an opportunity to commit more."
> - US Humorist, Mark Twain (1835 - 1910)
> 
> On Apr 12, 2018, at 12:06 PM, Ramy Moustafa  > wrote:
> 
> Hi Bill:
> Thanks so much, i tried it now,
> it’s there, and i tried it.
> but frankly i don’t like this view at all, so, is there a way to know the 
> subject without using the classic view?
> thanks in advance 
> 
>> On Apr 12, 2018, at 1:20 PM, Bill Gallik > > wrote:
>> 
>> Hi Ramy,
>> 
>> When you are in the mail application, use +<,> (That’s the COMMAND 
>> key along with the COMMA key)to place you directly in the Preferences dialog 
>> for mail.  The ToolBar will have a number of buttons - “View” included.  
>> Select that button and you will find the “Classic View” check box as the 
>> first item in this dialog; make certain that checkbox is indeed checked and 
>> close the dialog.
>> 
>> HTH
>> 
>> 
>> 
>> - Bill from Ino, Wisconsin
>> - "Reality is the leading cause of stress for those who are in touch with 
>> it.” 
>> - Jane Wagner
>> - American writer, director and producer, 1935-
>> 
>> 
>> 
>> 
>> On Apr 12, 2018, at 3:49 AM, Ramy Moustafa > > wrote:
>> 
>> Hi:
>> 
>> ok, thanks, but how can i change my self to Classic view?
>> i tried but can not find any classic view inside the view menu
>> thanks in advance 
>> 
>>> On Apr 12, 2018, at 3:48 AM, Jonathan Cohn >> > wrote:
>>> 
>>> Hello,
>>> 
>>> My understanding is that this can be done as a sighted person, can be done 
>>> if you classic view, or I believe I had a AppleScript that would change the 
>>> order.
>>> 
>>> For the sighted I understand that the columns can be dragged, but none of 
>>> the VoiceOver techniques for dragging appear to work for doing this, unless 
>>> you are in classic view.
>>> If you look at the “Message Attributes” sub-menu of the view menu, most of 
>>> the items there are greyed out, indicating they can not be changed.
>>> Best Wishes,
>>> 
>>> Jonathan 
>>> 
 On Apr 11, 2018, at 6:34 PM, Ramy Moustafa >>> > wrote:
 
 Hi all:
 
 sorry if i asked this question before, but i still can not perform, what 
 you told me.
 When navigating through a mailing list, i don’t want to here Voice over 
 says:
 10 messages from so and so and so.
 I need to know the subject before knowing the names.
 is there a way to do this?
 
 also, if i need to send an email to someone that he was replying on   
 mailinglist, how can i do that?
 
 Thanks in advance 
 
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Re: Admin Account

[Tim Kilburn]

Hi,

Did it give you an error that you can relay?  A few things to note.  From the 
external startup drive, make sure that the "Ignore Ownership" checkbox in the 
"Get Info" window for your mac is checked.  This will allow you to make 
modifications to the Mac even though permissions may say otherwise.  Going over 
some of the things you'll be doing...

1.  Start up from the external drive.
2.  Log in as an Administrator on that drive.
3. Open Terminal.
4.  Use the following commands.

ls /volumes

• this command should list the volumes connected to the current OS.  One should 
be the name of your external drive and the other should be your Mac, which I'll 
assume is Macintosh HD.  With it being named Macintosh HD, do the following:

cd Macintosh\ HD/var/db

• This command will change the directory focus from wherever it is to the 
Macintosh HD and into its corresponding /var/db location.  This may have been 
where you went astray.  If you had changed the directory but simply entered 
/var/db/.AppleSetupDone as the item you wished to remove, then it was likely 
trying to delete the .AppleSetupDone file in the external..  That would not 
have been allowed.

Now, since focus is on the Macintosh HD's /var/db location, you should be able 
to enter the following without the entire path reference.

rm .AppleSetupDone

Note that there is a period before the AppleSetupDone that might not be read by 
VO depending on your Verbosity settings.  If no error is returned, then the 
file should be gone.  You can confirm this with the ls command in this location.

ls -a

Note that the "a" has a dash in front of it.  This should list all the files in 
the /var/db directory within the Macintosh HD.  The files that begin with the 
period are normally listed first.  You can VO up/down through the list and 
there should be no file named .AppleSetupDone.  Without that file, when you 
start up your Mac, it will look for that file, and in its absence, start the 
Setup Assistant.  During the Setup Assistant, you enter all the required info 
and create a new account.  Because this account was created during the setup 
process, it will be an Administrator account.  You should then have two 
accounts, the new one and your old one.

So, once you know that the .AppleSetupDone file is gone, make sure that the 
Startup Disk is set to the internal Macintosh HD of your Mac, then restart it 
and follow the prompts.

HTH.

Later...



Tim Kilburn
Apple Teacher
Fort McMurray, AB Canada

On Apr 12, 2018, at 14:46, E.T.  wrote:

  Just tried after Booting from an external drive. I was able to access the 
internal drive but the removal task did not work. I will give it another go 
later. How do you navigate in Terminal? I want to look at the list of files 
more closely. Thanks Tim!

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On 4/12/2018 8:21 AM, Tim Kilburn wrote:
> Hi,
> Thanks Jonathan, and I can confirm that you'll need to use the second method. 
>  Starting up from a external source is necessary unless you have root 
> privileges on the given machine.  Single User mode gives you those root 
> privileges by default, but it is less than accessible.
> Best.
> Tim Kilburn
> Apple Teacher
> Fort McMurray, AB Canada
> On Apr 12, 2018, at 08:08, Jonathan Cohn  > wrote:
> Quick minor correction here, I believe that the files starting with a period 
> are not listed when using the ls command, unless you specify the dash a 
> option.
> So I believe the command should be ls -a /var/db
> take care,
> Jonathan  Cohn
>> On Apr 12, 2018, at 12:46 AM, Tim Kilburn > > wrote:
>> 
>> Hi,
>> 
>> Try this:
>> 
>> • Restart your Mac into Recovery mode.
>> • Go up to the Menubar, to Utilities and down to Terminal.
>> • In Terminal enter "ls /var/db" then press return.
>> • Navigate through the resulting list and see if there is an item named 
>> ".AppleSetupDone".
>> • if there is, then our job is to remove it.
>> • Type rm /var/db/.AppleSetupDone
>> • Type ls /var/db again and check the resulting list.
>> • if that file is gone, life is good.
>> • Quit Terminal and restart your Mac.
>> 
>> If that doesn't allow you access to the .AppleSetupDone file, then I'd use 
>> an external HD with MacOS installed to startup from.  Then using the same 
>> commands in Terminal, remove the .AppleSetupDone file from the internal 
>> drive.  Because you've started from an external source, you'll need to first 
>> switch over to the internal drive by using the command "cd 
>> /volumes/Macintosh\ HD.  The back slash is required when there is a space in 
>> the volume title as we don't want Terminal to read that space for other 
>> purposes.
>> 
>> I haven't done this in a while, so can confirm the first method tomorrow 
>> morning on a different machine than this one.  The second method would work 
>> for sure.
>> 
>> Later...
>> 
>> Tim Kilburn

Re: Is anyone else having issues reading Kindle books on iOS using a braille display?

[Des Delgadillo]

Hey I really need to be better at checking my mail :)

Thanks for the tip. I’ll give it a go and let the list know if this works.



> On Jan 23, 2018, at 2:29 AM, Thuy Mallalieu  wrote:
> 
> Hi Des and anyone else experiencing these issues. I too was having these 
> problems and tried several Braille Displays and still the same problems with 
> turning pages with the panning buttons with every Display including the Focus 
> 40 that seemed to work ok for Mark. That got me thinking about changing some 
> of the viewing options. I think Mark can see a bit, so I wondered if he might 
> have increased the font size in his kindle viewing options. So i pressed the 
> increase font size button a few times, and hey presto, the page turning seems 
> to be working now. So give it a go and see if it works for you as well.
> Cheers
> Thuy
> 
> 
> Sent from my iPhone
> 
>> On 21 Jan 2018, at 21:23, Des Delgadillo  wrote:
>> 
>> Hmm, strange. I’ve confirmed the setting is indeed set to on. I’ll try a few 
>> things and see if I can’t get it sorted.
>> 
>> I wonder though, is there a key command to get the display to advance 
>> automatically? This would be a great feature in my opinion.
>> 
>>> On Jan 18, 2018, at 9:46 PM, M. Taylor  wrote:
>>> 
>>> Hello Des,
>>> 
>>> I am happy to report that, using my Focus 40 Blue with the latest version 
>>> of both iOS and the Kindle app on my iPhone 8 Plus, I can change Kindle 
>>> book pages seamlessly via the panning buttons on my Focus.  
>>> 
>>> Confirm the following setting is configured correctly:
>>> 
>>> 1.
>>> From the iOS Settings area, select General.
>>> 
>>> 2.
>>> Select Accessibility.  
>>> 
>>> 3.
>>> Select VoiceOver.
>>> 
>>> 4.
>>> Select Braille.
>>> 
>>> 5.
>>> Set the "Turn Pages When Panning", option, to "ON".
>>> 
>>> Good Luck and Enjoy,
>>> 
>>> Mark
>>> 
>>> -Original Message-
>>> From: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com 
>>> [mailto:macvisionaries@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of Des Delgadillo
>>> Sent: Thursday, January 18, 2018 2:37 PM
>>> To: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com
>>> Subject: Is anyone else having issues reading Kindle books on iOS using a 
>>> braille display?
>>> 
>>> Not sure if this is just my issue, but whenever I read on the Kindle app 
>>> and reach the end of the page, continuing to pan doesn’t do anything and 
>>> I’m unable to continue on in the book.
>>> 
>>> Any ideas as to what could be causing this?
>>> 
>>> Alternatively, is there a way to make a braille display scroll 
>>> automatically?
>>> 
>>> Thanks guys!
>>> 
>>> —Des
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Re: Admin Account

[E.T.]

   Just tried after Booting from an external drive. I was able to 
access the internal drive but the removal task did not work. I will give 
it another go later. How do you navigate in Terminal? I want to look at 
the list of files more closely. Thanks Tim!


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On 4/12/2018 8:21 AM, Tim Kilburn wrote:

Hi,

Thanks Jonathan, and I can confirm that you'll need to use the second 
method.  Starting up from a external source is necessary unless you have 
root privileges on the given machine.  Single User mode gives you those 
root privileges by default, but it is less than accessible.


Best.

Tim Kilburn
Apple Teacher
Fort McMurray, AB Canada

On Apr 12, 2018, at 08:08, Jonathan Cohn > wrote:


Quick minor correction here, I believe that the files starting with a 
period are not listed when using the ls command, unless you specify the 
dash a option.


So I believe the command should be ls -a /var/db

take care,

Jonathan  Cohn
On Apr 12, 2018, at 12:46 AM, Tim Kilburn > wrote:


Hi,

Try this:

• Restart your Mac into Recovery mode.
• Go up to the Menubar, to Utilities and down to Terminal.
• In Terminal enter "ls /var/db" then press return.
• Navigate through the resulting list and see if there is an item 
named ".AppleSetupDone".

• if there is, then our job is to remove it.
• Type rm /var/db/.AppleSetupDone
• Type ls /var/db again and check the resulting list.
• if that file is gone, life is good.
• Quit Terminal and restart your Mac.

If that doesn't allow you access to the .AppleSetupDone file, then I'd 
use an external HD with MacOS installed to startup from.  Then using 
the same commands in Terminal, remove the .AppleSetupDone file from 
the internal drive.  Because you've started from an external source, 
you'll need to first switch over to the internal drive by using the 
command "cd /volumes/Macintosh\ HD.  The back slash is required when 
there is a space in the volume title as we don't want Terminal to read 
that space for other purposes.


I haven't done this in a while, so can confirm the first method 
tomorrow morning on a different machine than this one.  The second 
method would work for sure.


Later...

Tim Kilburn
Apple Teacher
Fort McMurray, AB Canada

On Apr 11, 2018, at 21:06, E.T. > wrote:


  Ever done clean installs? I installed HS soon after its release. 
Google will bring up this issue in the first couple months after release.


  I wish I could confirm for a fact I either had the admin account 
then or not. I do not now, just my normal user account. Simon, time 
for you to show up!


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On 4/11/2018 7:21 PM, Jonathan Cohn wrote:
Really! I have had two accounts on my MacOS X systems one regular and 
one admin since before there was VoiceOver available. Certainly when 
I did my upgrades my standard account stayed standard and my admin 
account stayed admin. In Sierra and Earlier it was impossible to 
finish an install unless one of the accounts was an admin account. I 
don’t believe one can install any programs in /Applications unless 
you have an admin account. Well, perhaps Simon will have an idea for 
you so just hang in there and wait for the sun to rise on NZ.
On Apr 11, 2018, at 9:56 PM, E.T. > wrote:


  No I did not realize I had no admin account. Until now I had no 
need for it. Evidently this was a common problem when HS was first 
released.


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On 4/11/2018 6:51 PM, Jonathan Cohn wrote:
Is the current admin account not working on your system? If you 
lost the password for the admin account on your computer you might 
be able to use password recovery tools in the recovery partition, 
but I have never been very successful with this.
Or do you need “super root” privileges to get around parts of the 
filesystem that relocked to all software except the installer 
application?

Best Wishes,
Jonathan
On Apr 11, 2018, at 9:20 PM, E.T. > wrote:


  Latest High Sierra. I need to create an admin account. I think 
this means single user mod? Is there another way to do this?


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Further to my question about playing external audio files on my Macbook

['andy' via MacVisionaries]

Hi all.

Thanks to everyone who has written to offer me some help with this learning 
curve, of playing media files on my Macbook.


Unfortunately, it seems that I have multiple issues going on at the moment and 
this is perhaps why I'm experiencing all these other problems with my Macbook.


For you who have written to me, I've saved your messages and plan to be able to 
return to them after these other problems can be resolved.

Perhaps my biggest problem is that I live on the West Coast of Scotland, some 
55 miles north of Glasgow and my nearest VI tech guy.

I cannot get him to visit my home, because he has a standard guide dog, 
whereas, I have a specially trained off-road guide dog that can cope with my 
rural environment as well as the streets of a busy Glasgow, so I'm obliged to 
make an appointment , visit him and secure his support  and get help, before I 
can even think of playing media files.

One of my initial problems is an announcement saying something like "This 
computer cannot connect to Cloud because of a problem with your btinternet.com 
account"!  I've noticed this same message a couple of miles away in my local 
bar, though thought that it was simply attempting to connect with my Roughter 
in my house and I was 2 miles away.


There is no way that I can even begin to sort this out so need to get that 
sorted before progressing to playing media files.

So my next plan is to secure this help in the hope that my problems can be 
resolved away from my home.

I did get all devices set up in Icloud months ago, so perhaps if the problems 
can be resolved on my Macbook, then my Imac will just pick these up.

So for the meantime guys, I'll have to disappear for a while but I will keep 
your files and hopefully be able to have a go at playing media files on my 
Apple equipment later.
.

Thanks again for your patience and support.

Very best wishes.

Andy.
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Re: Playing audio media on my Macbook

[Tim Kilburn]

Hi,

This is actually not a valid statement.  The drives and other external media 
always show up in the Finder, it is simply the location or style of "Showing 
up" that is handled by the Finder Preferences.  By default, these items show up 
in the Sidebar of any open Finder window as opposed to appearing on the Desktop 
itself.  This, therefore, keeps the Desktop less cluttered from some people's 
point of view.  Many of us long time Mac users prefer the items to be on the 
Desktop itself, but many other users, as well as a lot of sighted users prefer 
to just access these items through the Sidebar.  VO users can also access these 
items via the Sidebar, but most of us find it easier to place these sorts of 
items on our Desktop, either for convenience or due to being accustomed to 
operating that way.

Later...

Tim Kilburn
Apple Teacher
Fort McMurray, AB Canada

On Apr 12, 2018, at 13:58, Steve Matzura  wrote:

Remember, drives don't show up in Finder by default. This is something about 
which I have never fully comes to intellectual grips. If one were to buy a Mac, 
bring it home, turn it on, and start  using it, drives appear in Finder; if one 
were to install the Mac operating system from scratch, taking all the defaults 
with the exception of File Vault and storing the Documents directory in the 
cloud, no drives appear in Finder unless and until they are told to do so.


On 4/12/2018 3:08 PM, christopher hallsworth wrote:
> Hi Andy let's start with the basics, in the Finder you should see any 
> external media by default, thumb drives included. Unlike Windows, macOS 
> automatically mounts these external disks and places them in the Finder. Once 
> you have located this, press command-o to open the volume. Note I will not 
> use CMD at this stage for simplicity's sake.
> 
>> On 12 Apr 2018, at 10:48, 'andy' via MacVisionaries 
>>  wrote:
>> 
>> Hi all.
>>  In brief, I'm a very determined and apparently reluctant learning of the 
>> Apple operating system.
>>  I've been using windows since Dos 3.1 and like many people, I am afraid of 
>> this new system.
>>  I Purchased a 27 Imac and a Macbook pro about 2 years ago and have hardly 
>> moved in my learning.
>>  Despite buying a great book, titled, Janet Ingber - Everything You Need to 
>> Know to Use the Mac , I cannot get the motivation to "Use the mac"!
>>  My fingers tremble at my Macbook and I'm so afraid of doing something 
>> wrong, I'm paralysed.
>>  So I'm thinking that I should try something really simple.
>>  I'm addicted by the way to talking books, so lets look at that  as a method 
>> to break the ice.
>>  I've placed the above book on a thumb drive but every time I plug it into 
>> my Macbook, absolutely nothing happens, so I cannot access this media.
>>  On a Windows computer I'm asked "What do you want your computer to do?".
>>  So if anyone can tell me how to access a thumb drive and be able to go 
>> through some of the easy chapters of this book then listen to them, it may 
>> be enough to finally break my spirit and get me started, hahaha.
>>  Sorry guys for the long message but I'm sure you have all heard it before.
>>  Very best wishes.
>>  Andy.
>> From Scotland with Love.
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Re: spodify deal

[aliFaisal]

Hi,
I believe you might not be eligible then. I would contact spotify support and 
see what they say.
 

> On Apr 12, 2018, at 3:52 PM, Sarai Bucciarelli  
> wrote:
> 
> Hi:
> It says I don’t have an account. Is that because I went through iTunes?
>  
> Sarai D Bucciarelli www.linkedin.com/in/SaraiDBucciarelli 
> 
>  
> From: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com  On 
> Behalf Of aliFaisal
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> To: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com
> Subject: Re: spodify deal
>  
> Hello,
> you do it from your account settings on the spotify account page on the 
> website.
>  
> 
> 
>> On Apr 12, 2018, at 10:53 AM, Sarai Bucciarelli > > wrote:
>>  
>> All:
>> Spodify has a subscription deal with Hulu Plus. How do you switch if Spodify 
>> comes out of your iTunes account?
>>  
>> Sarai D Bucciarelli www.linkedin.com/in/SaraiDBucciarelli 
>> 
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Re: Playing audio media on my Macbook

[Steve Matzura]

Remember, drives don't show up in Finder by default. This is something 
about which I have never fully comes to intellectual grips. If one were 
to buy a Mac, bring it home, turn it on, and start  using it, drives 
appear in Finder; if one were to install the Mac operating system from 
scratch, taking all the defaults with the exception of File Vault and 
storing the Documents directory in the cloud, no drives appear in Finder 
unless and until they are told to do so.



On 4/12/2018 3:08 PM, christopher hallsworth wrote:

Hi Andy let's start with the basics, in the Finder you should see any external 
media by default, thumb drives included. Unlike Windows, macOS automatically 
mounts these external disks and places them in the Finder. Once you have 
located this, press command-o to open the volume. Note I will not use CMD at 
this stage for simplicity's sake.


On 12 Apr 2018, at 10:48, 'andy' via MacVisionaries 
 wrote:

Hi all.
  
In brief, I'm a very determined and apparently reluctant learning of the Apple operating system.
  
I've been using windows since Dos 3.1 and like many people, I am afraid of this new system.
  
I Purchased a 27 Imac and a Macbook pro about 2 years ago and have hardly moved in my learning.
  
Despite buying a great book, titled, Janet Ingber - Everything You Need to Know to Use the Mac , I cannot get the motivation to "Use the mac"!
  
My fingers tremble at my Macbook and I'm so afraid of doing something wrong, I'm paralysed.
  
So I'm thinking that I should try something really simple.
  
I'm addicted by the way to talking books, so lets look at that  as a method to break the ice.
  
I've placed the above book on a thumb drive but every time I plug it into my Macbook, absolutely nothing happens, so I cannot access this media.
  
On a Windows computer I'm asked "What do you want your computer to do?".
  
So if anyone can tell me how to access a thumb drive and be able to go through some of the easy chapters of this book then listen to them, it may be enough to finally break my spirit and get me started, hahaha.
  
Sorry guys for the long message but I'm sure you have all heard it before.
  
Very best wishes.
  
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RE: spodify deal

[Sarai Bucciarelli]

Hi:

It says I don’t have an account. Is that because I went through iTunes?

 

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Hello,

you do it from your account settings on the spotify account page on the website.

 





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All:

Spodify has a subscription deal with Hulu Plus. How do you switch if Spodify 
comes out of your iTunes account?

 

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Re: spodify deal

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Hello,
you do it from your account settings on the spotify account page on the website.


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Re: MacOs couldn't be installed

[Tim Kilburn]

Hi,

So, I'm assuming that it actually said something about "resources not being 
found" as opposed to "recourses".  When you go to the Apple menu and choose 
About this Mac, what version of MacOS does it claim that you now have?

Later...

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On Apr 12, 2018, at 13:19, masood bamyani  wrote:

Macbook pro 2015 8gb ram

MD

On Apr 12, 2018, at 8:39 AM, Tim Kilburn mailto:kilbu...@me.com>> wrote:

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> 
> What model of Mac is this message appearing on?  How much memory is on board?
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> Later...
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> On Apr 12, 2018, at 01:23, masood B  > wrote:
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> hello all. I recently updated my mac to the latest OS but MacBook pro says 
> MacOs couldn't be installed on your computer the recourses can be found. what 
> should I do? this erorr comes up at the log in screen. thanks
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Re: MacOs couldn't be installed

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Macbook pro 2015 8gb ram

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> Later...
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Re: Navigating messages inside the Mac mail app

[Jonathan Cohn]

One other possibility especially if you have the messages associated with the 
mailing list in their own folder or smart folder is to interact with the mail 
table down to the column level and then use the standard arrow keys to move 
about once the VO cursor reads a subject. Sorry, the description above sounds 
fairly complicated, but at that point the only thing read while navigating 
would be the subject and perhaps the coma sped 10 messages in thread verbiage 
that VOiceOver likes to say in threaded conversations.

> On Apr 12, 2018, at 1:06 PM, Ramy Moustafa  wrote:
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> Hi BIll:
> Thanks so much, i tried it now,
> it’s there, and i tried it.
> but frankly i don’t like this view at all, so, is there a way to know the 
> subject without using the classic view?
> thanks in advance 
> 
>> On Apr 12, 2018, at 1:20 PM, Bill Gallik > > wrote:
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>> Hi Ramy,
>> 
>> When you are in the mail application, use +<,> (That’s the COMMAND 
>> key along with the COMMA key)to place you directly in the Preferences dialog 
>> for mail.  The ToolBar will have a number of buttons - “View” included.  
>> Select that button and you will find the “Classic View” check box as the 
>> first item in this dialog; make certain that checkbox is indeed checked and 
>> close the dialog.
>> 
>> HTH
>> 
>> 
>> 
>> - Bill from Ino, Wisconsin
>> - "Reality is the leading cause of stress for those who are in touch with 
>> it.” 
>> - Jane Wagner
>> - American writer, director and producer, 1935-
>> 
>> 
>> 
>> 
>> On Apr 12, 2018, at 3:49 AM, Ramy Moustafa > > wrote:
>> 
>> Hi:
>> 
>> ok, thanks, but how can i change my self to Classic view?
>> i tried but can not find any classic view inside the view menu
>> thanks in advance 
>> 
>>> On Apr 12, 2018, at 3:48 AM, Jonathan Cohn >> > wrote:
>>> 
>>> Hello,
>>> 
>>> My understanding is that this can be done as a sighted person, can be done 
>>> if you classic view, or I believe I had a AppleScript that would change the 
>>> order.
>>> 
>>> For the sighted I understand that the columns can be dragged, but none of 
>>> the VoiceOver techniques for dragging appear to work for doing this, unless 
>>> you are in classic view.
>>> If you look at the “Message Attributes” sub-menu of the view menu, most of 
>>> the items there are greyed out, indicating they can not be changed.
>>> Best Wishes,
>>> 
>>> Jonathan 
>>> 
 On Apr 11, 2018, at 6:34 PM, Ramy Moustafa >>> > wrote:
 
 Hi all:
 
 sorry if i asked this question before, but i still can not perform, what 
 you told me.
 When navigating through a mailing list, i don’t want to here Voice over 
 says:
 10 messages from so and so and so.
 I need to know the subject before knowing the names.
 is there a way to do this?
 
 also, if i need to send an email to someone that he was replying on teh 
 mailinglist, how can i do that?
 
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Re: Playing audio media on my Macbook

[christopher hallsworth]

Hi Andy let's start with the basics, in the Finder you should see any external 
media by default, thumb drives included. Unlike Windows, macOS automatically 
mounts these external disks and places them in the Finder. Once you have 
located this, press command-o to open the volume. Note I will not use CMD at 
this stage for simplicity's sake.

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> In brief, I'm a very determined and apparently reluctant learning of the 
> Apple operating system.
>  
> I've been using windows since Dos 3.1 and like many people, I am afraid of 
> this new system.
>  
> I Purchased a 27 Imac and a Macbook pro about 2 years ago and have hardly 
> moved in my learning.
>  
> Despite buying a great book, titled, Janet Ingber - Everything You Need to 
> Know to Use the Mac , I cannot get the motivation to "Use the mac"!
>  
> My fingers tremble at my Macbook and I'm so afraid of doing something wrong, 
> I'm paralysed.
>  
> So I'm thinking that I should try something really simple.
>  
> I'm addicted by the way to talking books, so lets look at that  as a method 
> to break the ice.
>  
> I've placed the above book on a thumb drive but every time I plug it into my 
> Macbook, absolutely nothing happens, so I cannot access this media.
>  
> On a Windows computer I'm asked "What do you want your computer to do?".
>  
> So if anyone can tell me how to access a thumb drive and be able to go 
> through some of the easy chapters of this book then listen to them, it may be 
> enough to finally break my spirit and get me started, hahaha.
>  
> Sorry guys for the long message but I'm sure you have all heard it before.
>  
> Very best wishes.
>  
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Re: Playing audio media on my Macbook

[Steve Matzura]

Oh, and how could I possibly have forgotten to answer  your main 
question! Get the newest VLC Media Player for Mac OS, a fine and 
accessible replacement for iTunes.



On 4/12/2018 6:54 AM, Anne Robertson wrote:

Hello Andy,
First of all, when you plug in your thumb drive, it should show up on 
your desktop. If it doesn’t, press Cmd-comma to open Finder 
Preferences. Interact with the tool bar and select General. Stop 
interacting and navigate right to Show these items on the desktop: 
then check the four checkboxes that you find by navigating right.
Press Cmd-w to close the Preferences. Your thumb drive should now 
appear on your desk top.

Cheers,

Anne


On 12 Apr 2018, at 11:48, 'andy' via MacVisionaries 
> wrote:


Hi all.
In brief, I'm a very determined and apparently reluctant learning of 
the Apple operating system.
I've been using windows since Dos 3.1 and like many people, I am 
afraid of this new system.
I Purchased a 27 Imac and a Macbook pro about 2 years ago and have 
hardly moved in my learning.
Despite buying a great book, titled, Janet Ingber - Everything You 
Need to Know to Use the Mac , I cannot get the motivation to "Use the 
mac"!
My fingers tremble at my Macbook and I'm so afraid of doing something 
wrong, I'm paralysed.

So I'm thinking that I should try something really simple.
I'm addicted by the way to talking books, so lets look at that  as a 
method to break the ice.
I've placed the above book on a thumb drive but every time I plug it 
into my Macbook, absolutely nothing happens, so I cannot access this 
media.

On a Windows computer I'm asked "What do you want your computer to do?".
So if anyone can tell me how to access a thumb drive and be able to 
go through some of the easy chapters of this book then listen to 
them, it may be enough to finally break my spirit and get me started, 
hahaha.
Sorry guys for the long message but I'm sure you have all heard it 
before.

Very best wishes.
Andy.
From Scotland with Love.

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Re: Playing audio media on my Macbook

[Steve Matzura]

First off, it's time to get a really good instruction book which will 
take the fear outa using a very different operating system. I know, I 
had it, too, and these books really did the job. Get 
http://www.nbp.org/ic/nbp/MAC-BASICS.html and then 
http://www.nbp.org/ic/nbp/MAC-HIGHSIERRA.html The first one's a 
quick-start,the second one, despite its description, goes into a lot 
more depth. If these two don't do it for you, then it is quite possible 
Mac OS and you just don't get along. If that's so, fear not, I'm 
definitely on your side (LOL). Been trying to hack Mac since 2009, and 
every day I just roll my eyes in wonderment at how it takes just so many 
more keystrokes to do anything. But don't let any of that pull you down. 
Success and triumph over adversity are their own rewards sometimes. Keep 
up with it.


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Re: Playing audio media on my Macbook

[Tim Kilburn]

Andy,

cmd is simply short for "Command".  So, the key just to the left of the 
spacebar is the cmd or Command key.  All you need to hold down the cmd 
(Command) key, then press the comma key to open the Finder Prefs.

Later...

Tim Kilburn
Apple Teacher
Fort McMurray, AB Canada

On Apr 12, 2018, at 12:11, 'andy' via MacVisionaries 
 wrote:

Hi again Anne.
 
Please forgive me if I'm not quite with you at this moment.
 
You say "If it doesn’t, press Cmd-comma to open Finder Preferences"
 
I'm listening to a tutorial to Voice over by mr Jon Pan, who starts off by 
describing the mac keyboard layout and he is saying that from the bottom left, 
of a macbook for example, the keys are as follows:
 
FN: function key; Control key, then followed by the Option key, then Command 
key, just before the spacebar.
 
John does not talk about CMD.
 
Obviously, you are referring to the VO keys, but surely it should be 
Control,Option and finally command!
Or does CMD refer to keys 2,3 and 4 on the bottom left?
 
If this is the case, then CMD plus comma is Control, option and command and 
whilst these are depressed, press the comma key?
 
Sorry for appearing such an idiot, but I think I may have grasped the meaning 
of your  keystroke.
 
Am I correct and can I give it a go.
 
Very best wishes.
 
Andy.
 
 
 
 an
> - Original Message - 
> From: Anne Robertson 
> To: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com macvisionaries@googlegroups.com 
> 
> Sent: Thursday, April 12, 2018 11:54 AM
> Subject: Re: Playing audio media on my Macbook
> 
> Hello Andy,
> First of all, when you plug in your thumb drive, it should show up on your 
> desktop. If it doesn’t, press Cmd-comma to open Finder Preferences. Interact 
> with the tool bar and select General. Stop interacting and navigate right to 
> Show these items on the desktop: then check the four checkboxes that you find 
> by navigating right.
> Press Cmd-w to close the Preferences. Your thumb drive should now appear on 
> your desk top.
> Cheers,
> 
> Anne
> 
>  
> 
>> On 12 Apr 2018, at 11:48, 'andy' via MacVisionaries 
>> mailto:macvisionaries@googlegroups.com>> 
>> wrote:
>> 
>> Hi all.
>>  
>> In brief, I'm a very determined and apparently reluctant learning of the 
>> Apple operating system.
>>  
>> I've been using windows since Dos 3.1 and like many people, I am afraid of 
>> this new system.
>>  
>> I Purchased a 27 Imac and a Macbook pro about 2 years ago and have hardly 
>> moved in my learning.
>>  
>> Despite buying a great book, titled, Janet Ingber - Everything You Need to 
>> Know to Use the Mac , I cannot get the motivation to "Use the mac"!
>>  
>> My fingers tremble at my Macbook and I'm so afraid of doing something wrong, 
>> I'm paralysed.
>>  
>> So I'm thinking that I should try something really simple.
>>  
>> I'm addicted by the way to talking books, so lets look at that  as a method 
>> to break the ice.
>>  
>> I've placed the above book on a thumb drive but every time I plug it into my 
>> Macbook, absolutely nothing happens, so I cannot access this media.
>>  
>> On a Windows computer I'm asked "What do you want your computer to do?".
>>  
>> So if anyone can tell me how to access a thumb drive and be able to go 
>> through some of the easy chapters of this book then listen to them, it may 
>> be enough to finally break my spirit and get me started, hahaha.
>>  
>> Sorry guys for the long message but I'm sure you have all heard it before.
>>  
>> Very best wishes.
>>  
>> Andy.
>> From Scotland with Love.
>>  
>> 
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Re: Navigating messages inside the Mac mail app

[Bill Gallik]

Hi Ramy,

It’s tough to offer any helpful thoughts on this without knowing what it is 
about the Classic View that you dislike.  If you could give a bit more detail 
I’m certain someone on this list can offer some tips.  Huh, it may even be me! 😯


- Bill from Ino, Wisconsin
- "Always acknowledge a fault. This will throw those in authority off their 
guard and give you an opportunity to commit more."
- US Humorist, Mark Twain (1835 - 1910)

On Apr 12, 2018, at 12:06 PM, Ramy Moustafa  wrote:

Hi Bill:
Thanks so much, i tried it now,
it’s there, and i tried it.
but frankly i don’t like this view at all, so, is there a way to know the 
subject without using the classic view?
thanks in advance 

> On Apr 12, 2018, at 1:20 PM, Bill Gallik  > wrote:
> 
> Hi Ramy,
> 
> When you are in the mail application, use +<,> (That’s the COMMAND 
> key along with the COMMA key)to place you directly in the Preferences dialog 
> for mail.  The ToolBar will have a number of buttons - “View” included.  
> Select that button and you will find the “Classic View” check box as the 
> first item in this dialog; make certain that checkbox is indeed checked and 
> close the dialog.
> 
> HTH
> 
> 
> 
> - Bill from Ino, Wisconsin
> - "Reality is the leading cause of stress for those who are in touch with 
> it.” 
> - Jane Wagner
> - American writer, director and producer, 1935-
> 
> 
> 
> 
> On Apr 12, 2018, at 3:49 AM, Ramy Moustafa  > wrote:
> 
> Hi:
> 
> ok, thanks, but how can i change my self to Classic view?
> i tried but can not find any classic view inside the view menu
> thanks in advance 
> 
>> On Apr 12, 2018, at 3:48 AM, Jonathan Cohn > > wrote:
>> 
>> Hello,
>> 
>> My understanding is that this can be done as a sighted person, can be done 
>> if you classic view, or I believe I had a AppleScript that would change the 
>> order.
>> 
>> For the sighted I understand that the columns can be dragged, but none of 
>> the VoiceOver techniques for dragging appear to work for doing this, unless 
>> you are in classic view.
>> If you look at the “Message Attributes” sub-menu of the view menu, most of 
>> the items there are greyed out, indicating they can not be changed.
>> Best Wishes,
>> 
>> Jonathan 
>> 
>>> On Apr 11, 2018, at 6:34 PM, Ramy Moustafa >> > wrote:
>>> 
>>> Hi all:
>>> 
>>> sorry if i asked this question before, but i still can not perform, what 
>>> you told me.
>>> When navigating through a mailing list, i don’t want to here Voice over 
>>> says:
>>> 10 messages from so and so and so.
>>> I need to know the subject before knowing the names.
>>> is there a way to do this?
>>> 
>>> also, if i need to send an email to someone that he was replying on   
>>> mailinglist, how can i do that?
>>> 
>>> Thanks in advance 
>>> 
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Re: Playing audio media on my Macbook

['andy' via MacVisionaries]

Hi again Anne.

Please forgive me if I'm not quite with you at this moment.

You say "If it doesn’t, press Cmd-comma to open Finder Preferences"

I'm listening to a tutorial to Voice over by mr Jon Pan, who starts off by 
describing the mac keyboard layout and he is saying that from the bottom left, 
of a macbook for example, the keys are as follows:

FN: function key; Control key, then followed by the Option key, then Command 
key, just before the spacebar.

John does not talk about CMD.

Obviously, you are referring to the VO keys, but surely it should be 
Control,Option and finally command!
Or does CMD refer to keys 2,3 and 4 on the bottom left?

If this is the case, then CMD plus comma is Control, option and command and 
whilst these are depressed, press the comma key?

Sorry for appearing such an idiot, but I think I may have grasped the meaning 
of your  keystroke.

Am I correct and can I give it a go.

Very best wishes.

Andy.



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  - Original Message - 
  From: Anne Robertson 
  To: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com macvisionaries@googlegroups.com 
  Sent: Thursday, April 12, 2018 11:54 AM
  Subject: Re: Playing audio media on my Macbook


  Hello Andy,
  First of all, when you plug in your thumb drive, it should show up on your 
desktop. If it doesn’t, press Cmd-comma to open Finder Preferences. Interact 
with the tool bar and select General. Stop interacting and navigate right to 
Show these items on the desktop: then check the four checkboxes that you find 
by navigating right.
  Press Cmd-w to close the Preferences. Your thumb drive should now appear on 
your desk top.
  Cheers,


  Anne





On 12 Apr 2018, at 11:48, 'andy' via MacVisionaries 
 wrote:


Hi all.

In brief, I'm a very determined and apparently reluctant learning of the 
Apple operating system.

I've been using windows since Dos 3.1 and like many people, I am afraid of 
this new system.

I Purchased a 27 Imac and a Macbook pro about 2 years ago and have hardly 
moved in my learning.

Despite buying a great book, titled, Janet Ingber - Everything You Need to 
Know to Use the Mac , I cannot get the motivation to "Use the mac"!

My fingers tremble at my Macbook and I'm so afraid of doing something 
wrong, I'm paralysed.

So I'm thinking that I should try something really simple.

I'm addicted by the way to talking books, so lets look at that  as a method 
to break the ice.

I've placed the above book on a thumb drive but every time I plug it into 
my Macbook, absolutely nothing happens, so I cannot access this media.

On a Windows computer I'm asked "What do you want your computer to do?".

So if anyone can tell me how to access a thumb drive and be able to go 
through some of the easy chapters of this book then listen to them, it may be 
enough to finally break my spirit and get me started, hahaha.

Sorry guys for the long message but I'm sure you have all heard it before.

Very best wishes.

Andy.
From Scotland with Love.



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Re: Adjusting volume of battery low message

[Stacey Robinson]

Thanks I really appreciate your help.
Blessings,

Stacey Robinson

stacey...@bellsouth.net

> On Apr 12, 2018, at 12:06 PM, Jonathan Cohn  wrote:
> 
> In general anything changed in Macintosh settings is saved immediately. There 
> are some exceptions mostly in the network settings where  changing one value 
> effects others. In those cases when you close system settings or switch to a 
> different tab, A dialog will pop up asking you to confirm the change. Of 
> course there are cases where this doesn’t work right because of a corrupt 
> preference file, but those cases are rare and getting rarer.
> 
> In terms of the latter, I generally haven’t had an issue but just to be sure, 
> I just unplugged, my El Capitan, and I will get back to you in less than 24 
> hours. (I am not sure if I can use all the battery before leaving work.)
> Jonathan 
>  
>> On Apr 12, 2018, at 12:55 PM, Stacey Robinson > > wrote:
>> 
>> Jonathan,
>> Thanks.
>> How do I know the setting was saved?
>> Running VO will I still be told when I have a low battery?
>> Blessings,
>> 
>>  Stacey Robinson
>> 
>> stacey...@bellsouth.net 
>>> On Apr 12, 2018, at 9:22 AM, Jonathan Cohn >> > wrote:
>>> 
>>> Hello Stacy,
>>> 
>>> I believe you are saying that VoiceOver volume is fine, but that when you 
>>> get an alert like Battery is low it speaks at a different volume and 
>>> perhaps even a different voice. 
>>> 
>>> If indeed this is the case, then I believe you have text announcements of 
>>> alerts turned on. You shouldn’t need to have this enabled while using 
>>> VoiceOver. To turn it off, open system preferences to the Dictation and 
>>> Speech panel. Click the “text to speech” button and then uncheck the 
>>> "Announce when alerts are displayed”  checkbox.
>>> 
>>> HTH,
>>> 
>>> Jonathan Cohn
 On Apr 12, 2018, at 7:59 AM, Stacey Robinson >>> > wrote:
 
 Hi all,
 I’m running el capitan I think.
 How do I turn the volume down on the voice so when it says battery low it 
 is not really loud?
 Mine is way too loud.
 Please help.
 Using vo of course.
 Blessings,
 
Stacey Robinson
 
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Re: Navigating messages inside the Mac mail app

[Ramy Moustafa]

Hi BIll:
Thanks so much, i tried it now,
it’s there, and i tried it.
but frankly i don’t like this view at all, so, is there a way to know the 
subject without using the classic view?
thanks in advance 

> On Apr 12, 2018, at 1:20 PM, Bill Gallik  wrote:
> 
> Hi Ramy,
> 
> When you are in the mail application, use +<,> (That’s the COMMAND 
> key along with the COMMA key)to place you directly in the Preferences dialog 
> for mail.  The ToolBar will have a number of buttons - “View” included.  
> Select that button and you will find the “Classic View” check box as the 
> first item in this dialog; make certain that checkbox is indeed checked and 
> close the dialog.
> 
> HTH
> 
> 
> 
> - Bill from Ino, Wisconsin
> - "Reality is the leading cause of stress for those who are in touch with 
> it.” 
> - Jane Wagner
> - American writer, director and producer, 1935-
> 
> 
> 
> 
> On Apr 12, 2018, at 3:49 AM, Ramy Moustafa  > wrote:
> 
> Hi:
> 
> ok, thanks, but how can i change my self to Classic view?
> i tried but can not find any classic view inside the view menu
> thanks in advance 
> 
>> On Apr 12, 2018, at 3:48 AM, Jonathan Cohn > > wrote:
>> 
>> Hello,
>> 
>> My understanding is that this can be done as a sighted person, can be done 
>> if you classic view, or I believe I had a AppleScript that would change the 
>> order.
>> 
>> For the sighted I understand that the columns can be dragged, but none of 
>> the VoiceOver techniques for dragging appear to work for doing this, unless 
>> you are in classic view.
>> If you look at the “Message Attributes” sub-menu of the view menu, most of 
>> the items there are greyed out, indicating they can not be changed.
>> Best Wishes,
>> 
>> Jonathan 
>> 
>>> On Apr 11, 2018, at 6:34 PM, Ramy Moustafa >> > wrote:
>>> 
>>> Hi all:
>>> 
>>> sorry if i asked this question before, but i still can not perform, what 
>>> you told me.
>>> When navigating through a mailing list, i don’t want to here Voice over 
>>> says:
>>> 10 messages from so and so and so.
>>> I need to know the subject before knowing the names.
>>> is there a way to do this?
>>> 
>>> also, if i need to send an email to someone that he was replying on teh 
>>> mailinglist, how can i do that?
>>> 
>>> Thanks in advance 
>>> 
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Re: Adjusting volume of battery low message

[Jonathan Cohn]

In general anything changed in Macintosh settings is saved immediately. There 
are some exceptions mostly in the network settings where  changing one value 
effects others. In those cases when you close system settings or switch to a 
different tab, A dialog will pop up asking you to confirm the change. Of course 
there are cases where this doesn’t work right because of a corrupt preference 
file, but those cases are rare and getting rarer.

In terms of the latter, I generally haven’t had an issue but just to be sure, I 
just unplugged, my El Capitan, and I will get back to you in less than 24 
hours. (I am not sure if I can use all the battery before leaving work.)
Jonathan 
 
> On Apr 12, 2018, at 12:55 PM, Stacey Robinson  wrote:
> 
> Jonathan,
> Thanks.
> How do I know the setting was saved?
> Running VO will I still be told when I have a low battery?
> Blessings,
> 
>   Stacey Robinson
> 
> stacey...@bellsouth.net 
>> On Apr 12, 2018, at 9:22 AM, Jonathan Cohn > > wrote:
>> 
>> Hello Stacy,
>> 
>> I believe you are saying that VoiceOver volume is fine, but that when you 
>> get an alert like Battery is low it speaks at a different volume and perhaps 
>> even a different voice. 
>> 
>> If indeed this is the case, then I believe you have text announcements of 
>> alerts turned on. You shouldn’t need to have this enabled while using 
>> VoiceOver. To turn it off, open system preferences to the Dictation and 
>> Speech panel. Click the “text to speech” button and then uncheck the 
>> "Announce when alerts are displayed”  checkbox.
>> 
>> HTH,
>> 
>> Jonathan Cohn
>>> On Apr 12, 2018, at 7:59 AM, Stacey Robinson >> > wrote:
>>> 
>>> Hi all,
>>> I’m running el capitan I think.
>>> How do I turn the volume down on the voice so when it says battery low it 
>>> is not really loud?
>>> Mine is way too loud.
>>> Please help.
>>> Using vo of course.
>>> Blessings,
>>> 
>>> Stacey Robinson
>>> 
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Re: Adjusting volume of battery low message

[Stacey Robinson]

Jonathan,
Thanks.
How do I know the setting was saved?
Running VO will I still be told when I have a low battery?
Blessings,

Stacey Robinson

stacey...@bellsouth.net

> On Apr 12, 2018, at 9:22 AM, Jonathan Cohn  wrote:
> 
> Hello Stacy,
> 
> I believe you are saying that VoiceOver volume is fine, but that when you get 
> an alert like Battery is low it speaks at a different volume and perhaps even 
> a different voice. 
> 
> If indeed this is the case, then I believe you have text announcements of 
> alerts turned on. You shouldn’t need to have this enabled while using 
> VoiceOver. To turn it off, open system preferences to the Dictation and 
> Speech panel. Click the “text to speech” button and then uncheck the 
> "Announce when alerts are displayed”  checkbox.
> 
> HTH,
> 
> Jonathan Cohn
>> On Apr 12, 2018, at 7:59 AM, Stacey Robinson > > wrote:
>> 
>> Hi all,
>> I’m running el capitan I think.
>> How do I turn the volume down on the voice so when it says battery low it is 
>> not really loud?
>> Mine is way too loud.
>> Please help.
>> Using vo of course.
>> Blessings,
>> 
>>  Stacey Robinson
>> 
>> stacey...@bellsouth.net 
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Re: MacOs couldn't be installed

[Tim Kilburn]

Hi,

What model of Mac is this message appearing on?  How much memory is on board?

Later...

Tim Kilburn
Apple Teacher
Fort McMurray, AB Canada

On Apr 12, 2018, at 01:23, masood B  wrote:

hello all. I recently updated my mac to the latest OS but MacBook pro says 
MacOs couldn't be installed on your computer the recourses can be found. what 
should I do? this erorr comes up at the log in screen. thanks

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Re: Admin Account

[Tim Kilburn]

Hi,

Thanks Jonathan, and I can confirm that you'll need to use the second method.  
Starting up from a external source is necessary unless you have root privileges 
on the given machine.  Single User mode gives you those root privileges by 
default, but it is less than accessible.

Best.

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On Apr 12, 2018, at 08:08, Jonathan Cohn  wrote:

Quick minor correction here, I believe that the files starting with a period 
are not listed when using the ls command, unless you specify the dash a option.

So I believe the command should be ls -a /var/db 

take care,

Jonathan  Cohn 
> On Apr 12, 2018, at 12:46 AM, Tim Kilburn  > wrote:
> 
> Hi,
> 
> Try this:
> 
> • Restart your Mac into Recovery mode.
> • Go up to the Menubar, to Utilities and down to Terminal.
> • In Terminal enter "ls /var/db" then press return.
> • Navigate through the resulting list and see if there is an item named 
> ".AppleSetupDone".
> • if there is, then our job is to remove it.
> • Type rm /var/db/.AppleSetupDone
> • Type ls /var/db again and check the resulting list.
> • if that file is gone, life is good.
> • Quit Terminal and restart your Mac.
> 
> If that doesn't allow you access to the .AppleSetupDone file, then I'd use an 
> external HD with MacOS installed to startup from.  Then using the same 
> commands in Terminal, remove the .AppleSetupDone file from the internal 
> drive.  Because you've started from an external source, you'll need to first 
> switch over to the internal drive by using the command "cd 
> /volumes/Macintosh\ HD.  The back slash is required when there is a space in 
> the volume title as we don't want Terminal to read that space for other 
> purposes.
> 
> I haven't done this in a while, so can confirm the first method tomorrow 
> morning on a different machine than this one.  The second method would work 
> for sure.
> 
> Later...
> 
> Tim Kilburn
> Apple Teacher
> Fort McMurray, AB Canada
> 
> On Apr 11, 2018, at 21:06, E.T.  > wrote:
> 
>   Ever done clean installs? I installed HS soon after its release. Google 
> will bring up this issue in the first couple months after release.
> 
>   I wish I could confirm for a fact I either had the admin account then or 
> not. I do not now, just my normal user account. Simon, time for you to show 
> up!
> 
> From E.T.'s Keyboard...
>   ancient.ali...@icloud.com 
> Many believe that we have been visited
> in the past. What if it were true?
> 
> On 4/11/2018 7:21 PM, Jonathan Cohn wrote:
>> Really! I have had two accounts on my MacOS X systems one regular and one 
>> admin since before there was VoiceOver available. Certainly when I did my 
>> upgrades my standard account stayed standard and my admin account stayed 
>> admin. In Sierra and Earlier it was impossible to finish an install unless 
>> one of the accounts was an admin account. I don’t believe one can install 
>> any programs in /Applications unless you have an admin account. Well, 
>> perhaps Simon will have an idea for you so just hang in there and wait for 
>> the sun to rise on NZ.
>>> On Apr 11, 2018, at 9:56 PM, E.T. >> > wrote:
>>> 
>>>   No I did not realize I had no admin account. Until now I had no need for 
>>> it. Evidently this was a common problem when HS was first released.
>>> 
>>> From E.T.'s Keyboard...
>>>   ancient.ali...@icloud.com 
>>> Many believe that we have been visited
>>> in the past. What if it were true?
>>> 
>>> On 4/11/2018 6:51 PM, Jonathan Cohn wrote:
 Is the current admin account not working on your system? If you lost the 
 password for the admin account on your computer you might be able to use 
 password recovery tools in the recovery partition, but I have never been 
 very successful with this.
 Or do you need “super root” privileges to get around parts of the 
 filesystem that relocked to all software except the installer application?
 Best Wishes,
 Jonathan
> On Apr 11, 2018, at 9:20 PM, E.T.  > wrote:
> 
>   Latest High Sierra. I need to create an admin account. I think this 
> means single user mod? Is there another way to do this?
> 
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spodify deal

[Sarai Bucciarelli]

All:

Spodify has a subscription deal with Hulu Plus. How do you switch if Spodify
comes out of your iTunes account?

 

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Re: Using Swift to Dev Apps

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Hi Simon,

I am supposed to promote these titles in iBooks when doing presentations to 
teachers and such, so I'll suggest them to you as well.  In the iBooks Store, 
type "Swift" into the Search field and check out the results.  My 
recommendation is to first download Swift Playgrounds to your iPad and go 
through the Learn to Code with Swift Playgrounds 1, 2 and 3.  There is also an 
iTunes U course you can take which is found in the iTunes U app on your iPad.  
Open the iTunes U app, double-tap the Featured tab, activate the 
search field, then type Playground.  There should be the Learn to Code with 
Swift Playground course there and some other titles.  There are App Development 
iBooks as well that will show up when you do the previous search in the iBooks 
Store.  Hopefully, this is the sort of thing that you're looking for.

Later...

Tim Kilburn
Apple Teacher
Fort McMurray, AB Canada

On Apr 12, 2018, at 04:22, Simon Fogarty  wrote:

Hi Listers,

I've got a couple of things I'd like to develop in the way of apps for IOS and 
wondered if anyone had information on the best way to get into app development?

I've just purchased myself a new iPad Pro 10.5 inch 256GB device which will be 
somewhat easier to carry around and work on.

But need to start looking at swift development 
Another question is 
Can you develop apps on the iPad or do you have to do it on / via Mac OS and an 
SDK 

Cheers.

Simon F

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Re: Adjusting volume of battery low message

[Jonathan Cohn]

Hello Stacy,

I believe you are saying that VoiceOver volume is fine, but that when you get 
an alert like Battery is low it speaks at a different volume and perhaps even a 
different voice. 

If indeed this is the case, then I believe you have text announcements of 
alerts turned on. You shouldn’t need to have this enabled while using 
VoiceOver. To turn it off, open system preferences to the Dictation and Speech 
panel. Click the “text to speech” button and then uncheck the "Announce when 
alerts are displayed”  checkbox.

HTH,

Jonathan Cohn
> On Apr 12, 2018, at 7:59 AM, Stacey Robinson  wrote:
> 
> Hi all,
> I’m running el capitan I think.
> How do I turn the volume down on the voice so when it says battery low it is 
> not really loud?
> Mine is way too loud.
> Please help.
> Using vo of course.
> Blessings,
> 
>   Stacey Robinson
> 
> stacey...@bellsouth.net 
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Re: Admin Account

[Jonathan Cohn]

Quick minor correction here, I believe that the files starting with a period 
are not listed when using the ls command, unless you specify the dash a option.

So I believe the command should be ls -a /var/db 

take care,

Jonathan  Cohn 
> On Apr 12, 2018, at 12:46 AM, Tim Kilburn  wrote:
> 
> Hi,
> 
> Try this:
> 
> • Restart your Mac into Recovery mode.
> • Go up to the Menubar, to Utilities and down to Terminal.
> • In Terminal enter "ls /var/db" then press return.
> • Navigate through the resulting list and see if there is an item named 
> ".AppleSetupDone".
> • if there is, then our job is to remove it.
> • Type rm /var/db/.AppleSetupDone
> • Type ls /var/db again and check the resulting list.
> • if that file is gone, life is good.
> • Quit Terminal and restart your Mac.
> 
> If that doesn't allow you access to the .AppleSetupDone file, then I'd use an 
> external HD with MacOS installed to startup from.  Then using the same 
> commands in Terminal, remove the .AppleSetupDone file from the internal 
> drive.  Because you've started from an external source, you'll need to first 
> switch over to the internal drive by using the command "cd 
> /volumes/Macintosh\ HD.  The back slash is required when there is a space in 
> the volume title as we don't want Terminal to read that space for other 
> purposes.
> 
> I haven't done this in a while, so can confirm the first method tomorrow 
> morning on a different machine than this one.  The second method would work 
> for sure.
> 
> Later...
> 
> Tim Kilburn
> Apple Teacher
> Fort McMurray, AB Canada
> 
> On Apr 11, 2018, at 21:06, E.T.  > wrote:
> 
>   Ever done clean installs? I installed HS soon after its release. Google 
> will bring up this issue in the first couple months after release.
> 
>   I wish I could confirm for a fact I either had the admin account then or 
> not. I do not now, just my normal user account. Simon, time for you to show 
> up!
> 
> From E.T.'s Keyboard...
>   ancient.ali...@icloud.com 
> Many believe that we have been visited
> in the past. What if it were true?
> 
> On 4/11/2018 7:21 PM, Jonathan Cohn wrote:
>> Really! I have had two accounts on my MacOS X systems one regular and one 
>> admin since before there was VoiceOver available. Certainly when I did my 
>> upgrades my standard account stayed standard and my admin account stayed 
>> admin. In Sierra and Earlier it was impossible to finish an install unless 
>> one of the accounts was an admin account. I don’t believe one can install 
>> any programs in /Applications unless you have an admin account. Well, 
>> perhaps Simon will have an idea for you so just hang in there and wait for 
>> the sun to rise on NZ.
>>> On Apr 11, 2018, at 9:56 PM, E.T. >> > wrote:
>>> 
>>>   No I did not realize I had no admin account. Until now I had no need for 
>>> it. Evidently this was a common problem when HS was first released.
>>> 
>>> From E.T.'s Keyboard...
>>>   ancient.ali...@icloud.com 
>>> Many believe that we have been visited
>>> in the past. What if it were true?
>>> 
>>> On 4/11/2018 6:51 PM, Jonathan Cohn wrote:
 Is the current admin account not working on your system? If you lost the 
 password for the admin account on your computer you might be able to use 
 password recovery tools in the recovery partition, but I have never been 
 very successful with this.
 Or do you need “super root” privileges to get around parts of the 
 filesystem that relocked to all software except the installer application?
 Best Wishes,
 Jonathan
> On Apr 11, 2018, at 9:20 PM, E.T.  > wrote:
> 
>   Latest High Sierra. I need to create an admin account. I think this 
> means single user mod? Is there another way to do this?
> 
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Adjusting volume of battery low message

[Stacey Robinson]

Hi all,
I’m running el capitan I think.
How do I turn the volume down on the voice so when it says battery low it is 
not really loud?
Mine is way too loud.
Please help.
Using vo of course.
Blessings,

Stacey Robinson

stacey...@bellsouth.net

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Re: Navigating messages inside the Mac mail app

[Bill Gallik]

Hi Ramy,

When you are in the mail application, use +<,> (That’s the COMMAND key 
along with the COMMA key)to place you directly in the Preferences dialog for 
mail.  The ToolBar will have a number of buttons - “View” included.  Select 
that button and you will find the “Classic View” check box as the first item in 
this dialog; make certain that checkbox is indeed checked and close the dialog.

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On Apr 12, 2018, at 3:49 AM, Ramy Moustafa  wrote:

Hi:

ok, thanks, but how can i change my self to Classic view?
i tried but can not find any classic view inside the view menu
thanks in advance 

> On Apr 12, 2018, at 3:48 AM, Jonathan Cohn  wrote:
> 
> Hello,
> 
> My understanding is that this can be done as a sighted person, can be done if 
> you classic view, or I believe I had a AppleScript that would change the 
> order.
> 
> For the sighted I understand that the columns can be dragged, but none of the 
> VoiceOver techniques for dragging appear to work for doing this, unless you 
> are in classic view.
> If you look at the “Message Attributes” sub-menu of the view menu, most of 
> the items there are greyed out, indicating they can not be changed.
> Best Wishes,
> 
> Jonathan 
> 
>> On Apr 11, 2018, at 6:34 PM, Ramy Moustafa  wrote:
>> 
>> Hi all:
>> 
>> sorry if i asked this question before, but i still can not perform, what you 
>> told me.
>> When navigating through a mailing list, i don’t want to here Voice over says:
>> 10 messages from so and so and so.
>> I need to know the subject before knowing the names.
>> is there a way to do this?
>> 
>> also, if i need to send an email to someone that he was replying on teh 
>> mailinglist, how can i do that?
>> 
>> Thanks in advance 
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Re: Playing audio media on my Macbook

['andy' via MacVisionaries]

Hi Anne.

Thank you for responding so quickly and for giving me my home-work for tonight! 
 Ha!

Very best wishes.

Andy.

>From Scotland with Love.
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  Sent: Thursday, April 12, 2018 11:54 AM
  Subject: Re: Playing audio media on my Macbook


  Hello Andy,
  First of all, when you plug in your thumb drive, it should show up on your 
desktop. If it doesn’t, press Cmd-comma to open Finder Preferences. Interact 
with the tool bar and select General. Stop interacting and navigate right to 
Show these items on the desktop: then check the four checkboxes that you find 
by navigating right.
  Press Cmd-w to close the Preferences. Your thumb drive should now appear on 
your desk top.
  Cheers,


  Anne





On 12 Apr 2018, at 11:48, 'andy' via MacVisionaries 
 wrote:


Hi all.

In brief, I'm a very determined and apparently reluctant learning of the 
Apple operating system.

I've been using windows since Dos 3.1 and like many people, I am afraid of 
this new system.

I Purchased a 27 Imac and a Macbook pro about 2 years ago and have hardly 
moved in my learning.

Despite buying a great book, titled, Janet Ingber - Everything You Need to 
Know to Use the Mac , I cannot get the motivation to "Use the mac"!

My fingers tremble at my Macbook and I'm so afraid of doing something 
wrong, I'm paralysed.

So I'm thinking that I should try something really simple.

I'm addicted by the way to talking books, so lets look at that  as a method 
to break the ice.

I've placed the above book on a thumb drive but every time I plug it into 
my Macbook, absolutely nothing happens, so I cannot access this media.

On a Windows computer I'm asked "What do you want your computer to do?".

So if anyone can tell me how to access a thumb drive and be able to go 
through some of the easy chapters of this book then listen to them, it may be 
enough to finally break my spirit and get me started, hahaha.

Sorry guys for the long message but I'm sure you have all heard it before.

Very best wishes.

Andy.
From Scotland with Love.



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Re: OT: Aftershokz Trekz Air and other headphones

[Michael Busboom]

Hi.

I have also been using Aftershokz Bluetooth headphones for a long time now, 
also just for speech output.  However, since owning my AirPods, I no longer use 
them.  The AirPods are great for speech, music and pretty much anything else 
sound-related for which I might use them.  Not only do they work seamlessly 
with Mac products, but they are also working quite nicely with my Kindle 
equipment as well.

Take care,

Mike
 


> On 11.04.2018, at 20:01, Nickus de Vos  wrote:
> 
> Hi all
> I’ve been using Aftershokz bone conducting headphones for a couple of years 
> now, I’m on my second set, the wired model.
> 
> I don’t use it for listening to music, I only use it for Voiceover, so sound 
> quality isn’t a big consideration.
> 
> I’m wondering if anyone tried the new Aftershokz Trekz Air model yet, I 
> specifically wonder if there’s a Voiceover delay? I see it has bluetooth 4.2 
> so in theory there should be no delay if used with other bluetooth 4.2 
> devices, but I have a 2015 Macbook Pro which still runs bluetooth 4.1 if I 
> recall correctly.
> 
> The Trekz Air is quite expensive for what I intend using them for, so even 
> though I like the fact that there’s nothing in my ears while working so that 
> I can hear other people talking around me, maybe I should just get Airpods 
> which is slightly cheaper and I would be able to use them for so much more.
> 
> Penny for your thoughts?
> 
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Re: Playing audio media on my Macbook

[Anne Robertson]

Hello Andy,
First of all, when you plug in your thumb drive, it should show up on your 
desktop. If it doesn’t, press Cmd-comma to open Finder Preferences. Interact 
with the tool bar and select General. Stop interacting and navigate right to 
Show these items on the desktop: then check the four checkboxes that you find 
by navigating right.
Press Cmd-w to close the Preferences. Your thumb drive should now appear on 
your desk top.
Cheers,

Anne

 

> On 12 Apr 2018, at 11:48, 'andy' via MacVisionaries 
>  wrote:
> 
> Hi all.
>  
> In brief, I'm a very determined and apparently reluctant learning of the 
> Apple operating system.
>  
> I've been using windows since Dos 3.1 and like many people, I am afraid of 
> this new system.
>  
> I Purchased a 27 Imac and a Macbook pro about 2 years ago and have hardly 
> moved in my learning.
>  
> Despite buying a great book, titled, Janet Ingber - Everything You Need to 
> Know to Use the Mac , I cannot get the motivation to "Use the mac"!
>  
> My fingers tremble at my Macbook and I'm so afraid of doing something wrong, 
> I'm paralysed.
>  
> So I'm thinking that I should try something really simple.
>  
> I'm addicted by the way to talking books, so lets look at that  as a method 
> to break the ice.
>  
> I've placed the above book on a thumb drive but every time I plug it into my 
> Macbook, absolutely nothing happens, so I cannot access this media.
>  
> On a Windows computer I'm asked "What do you want your computer to do?".
>  
> So if anyone can tell me how to access a thumb drive and be able to go 
> through some of the easy chapters of this book then listen to them, it may be 
> enough to finally break my spirit and get me started, hahaha.
>  
> Sorry guys for the long message but I'm sure you have all heard it before.
>  
> Very best wishes.
>  
> Andy.
> From Scotland with Love.
>  
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RE: Admin Account

[Simon Fogarty]

Hi ET,

 Do you already have admin rights on the machine?

Single usermode unless this has changed since el cap doesn't work well for 
access other than a magnifier 
 
If you have admin rights already you could create one through the usual way of 
users and groups,
 Or possibly through the recovery console / terminal to reset password 

What is it we're working with.

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Behalf Of E.T.
Sent: Thursday, 12 April 2018 1:21 PM
To: MacVisionaries 
Subject: Admin Account

Latest High Sierra. I need to create an admin account. I think this means 
single user mod? Is there another way to do this?

 From E.T.'s Keyboard...
ancient.ali...@icloud.com
Many believe that we have been visited
in the past. What if it were true?

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RE: apple watch series 3 sale

[Simon Fogarty]

They call her siri,
 You ask her to send the text for you.

 Crazy enough she does it.

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Sent: Wednesday, 11 April 2018 4:39 AM
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Subject: Re: apple watch series 3 sale

How about things like texting and all that, not like you can type on the watch. 
 How do you guys usually ahndle things like texting?

On 4/10/18, Paul Henrichsen  wrote:
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> Having an Apple Watch is one of those things that you could probably 
> do without. However, once you get one, you’ll wonder how you ever 
> lived without it. There’s a number of things you can do with an Apple 
> Watch, from keeping track of your exercise routine to finding out what 
> the weather is and a lot of other things you can do without having to 
> take your phone out of your pocket. it’s worth it if you can afford it.
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>> Hey guys.  OK, i have been debating getting an apple watch.  Curious, 
>> do a lot of you find it useful? Perhaps i'm looking at it wrong, but 
>> it just doesn't seem like it would be all that useful when you do all 
>> of the same stuff on your phone.  Any thoughts?
>>
>>> On 4/10/18, Sarai Bucciarelli  wrote:
>>> Hi guys:
>>>
>>> BestBuy has some good deals on Apple Watch Series 3.
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> Sarai D Bucciarelli  
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RE: apple watch series 3 sale

[Simon Fogarty]

It's great not needing to pull your phone out and read or sed a text 
Gps on the watch so your not having to keep working your phone,
And now with the watch s3 LTE model you can leave your phone at home and just 
use your watch to do most of wha the phone does but from your wrist.

-Original Message-
From: jedbar...@gmail.com  On Behalf Of Jed Barton
Sent: Wednesday, 11 April 2018 3:55 AM
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Subject: Re: apple watch series 3 sale

Hey guys.  OK, i have been debating getting an apple watch.  Curious, do a lot 
of you find it useful? Perhaps i'm looking at it wrong, but it just doesn't 
seem like it would be all that useful when you do all of the same stuff on your 
phone.  Any thoughts?

On 4/10/18, Sarai Bucciarelli  wrote:
> Hi guys:
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> BestBuy has some good deals on Apple Watch Series 3.
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Using Swift to Dev Apps

[Simon Fogarty]

Hi Listers,

 I've got a couple of things I'd like to develop in the way of apps for IOS and 
wondered if anyone had information on the best way to get into app development?

I've just purchased myself a new iPad Pro 10.5 inch 256GB device which will be 
somewhat easier to carry around and work on.

But need to start looking at swift development 
Another question is 
Can you develop apps on the iPad or do you have to do it on / via Mac OS and an 
SDK 

Cheers.

Simon F

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RE: Employment at Apple

[Simon Fogarty]

Hi Karen,

I've been looking more in to this working for apple thing and it appears that 
due to my location on the planet I'd have the best chance of a job in one of 
the austrailian offices 

 So writing a few applications over the weekend.



It appears I'd be totally out of luck getting a green card to work in the USA 
although Canada being part of the british commonwealth although still difficult 
might be an option.

Heres giving it a go.

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Subject: Re: Employment at Apple

Where?
The e-mail lists everything from  sales to design, at least they are gathering  
resumes via this CNIB effort.
If you are in Canada I can share it with you as well.
Perhaps apple members who monitor this list can confirm their process in 
general.
Kare


On Thu, 5 Apr 2018, Steve Matzura wrote:

> What jobs is Apple interested in filling?
>
>
> On 4/5/2018 6:40 AM, Karen Lewellen wrote:
>>  Hi Simon,
>>   I cannot speak to your home country.
>>  However just last week I got  an e-mail  about an opportunity here 
>> where  apple is seeking blind and vision impaired individuals for 
>> possible  employment.  they are coordinating the effort with CNIB the 
>> Canadian  National Institute for the blind.  The invitation includes 
>> a place to  share  your resume and if selected states apple will  be 
>> meeting with  prospects later this month or the next.
>>  So, indeed clearly they  are willing to staff an individual who is  
>> qualified first and sight impaired as an extension.
>>   Kare
>> 
>>
>>  On Thu, 5 Apr 2018, Simon Fogarty wrote:
>> 
>> >  Hi Listers of the Mac user kind and UA bsed,
>> > 
>> >  I’m in the processof a restructure at work that will end in my 
>> > team of
>> >  12 saff staff being both disestablished and somewhat unemployed...
>> >  Great 10of setvice to the oganisatyion now they think they don’t 
>> > need  first or second level IT support.
>> > 
>> >  What I’d like to know is what is aples reaction to employment of 
>> > the  blind / visually impaired  I know they say they are Equal 
>> > opotunity employers but is it true?
>> > 
>> >  The reaso I ask is I’m lookin to apply ofr a coupleof roles there 
>> > and  I wasn’t sure of their deal with  people like mself and aalso 
>> > non USA  citizans
>> > 
>> >  Any info from anyone that has knowlede of this would be 
>> > appreciated.\\\
>> > 
>> >  Cheers,
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Playing audio media on my Macbook

['andy' via MacVisionaries]

Hi all.

In brief, I'm a very determined and apparently reluctant learning of the Apple 
operating system.

I've been using windows since Dos 3.1 and like many people, I am afraid of this 
new system.

I Purchased a 27 Imac and a Macbook pro about 2 years ago and have hardly moved 
in my learning.

Despite buying a great book, titled, Janet Ingber - Everything You Need to Know 
to Use the Mac , I cannot get the motivation to "Use the mac"!

My fingers tremble at my Macbook and I'm so afraid of doing something wrong, 
I'm paralysed.

So I'm thinking that I should try something really simple.

I'm addicted by the way to talking books, so lets look at that  as a method to 
break the ice.

I've placed the above book on a thumb drive but every time I plug it into my 
Macbook, absolutely nothing happens, so I cannot access this media.

On a Windows computer I'm asked "What do you want your computer to do?".

So if anyone can tell me how to access a thumb drive and be able to go through 
some of the easy chapters of this book then listen to them, it may be enough to 
finally break my spirit and get me started, hahaha.

Sorry guys for the long message but I'm sure you have all heard it before.

Very best wishes.

Andy.
>From Scotland with Love.

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Re: Navigating messages inside the Mac mail app

[Ramy Moustafa]

Hi:

ok, thanks, but how can i change my self to Classic view?
i tried but can not find any classic view inside the view menu
thanks in advance 

> On Apr 12, 2018, at 3:48 AM, Jonathan Cohn  wrote:
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> Hello,
> 
> My understanding is that this can be done as a sighted person, can be done if 
> you classic view, or I believe I had a AppleScript that would change the 
> order.
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> For the sighted I understand that the columns can be dragged, but none of the 
> VoiceOver techniques for dragging appear to work for doing this, unless you 
> are in classic view.
> If you look at the “Message Attributes” sub-menu of the view menu, most of 
> the items there are greyed out, indicating they can not be changed.
> Best Wishes,
> 
> Jonathan 
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>> On Apr 11, 2018, at 6:34 PM, Ramy Moustafa  wrote:
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>> Hi all:
>> 
>> sorry if i asked this question before, but i still can not perform, what you 
>> told me.
>> When navigating through a mailing list, i don’t want to here Voice over says:
>> 10 messages from so and so and so.
>> I need to know the subject before knowing the names.
>> is there a way to do this?
>> 
>> also, if i need to send an email to someone that he was replying on teh 
>> mailinglist, how can i do that?
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>> Thanks in advance 
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MacOs couldn't be installed

[masood B]

hello all. I recently updated my mac to the latest OS but MacBook pro says 
MacOs couldn't be installed on your computer the recourses can be found. 
what should I do? this erorr comes up at the log in screen. thanks

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