Re: Applescript commander acting strange.

[dan d.]

A script workss the same in eeither.  I suggest you join and ask the script 
question in this mailing list:

applescript-us...@lists.apple.com
On Mon, 7 Jun 2021, Jonathan Cohn wrote:

> OK yes, but there is still a need for scripting to work consistently.
>   Best wishes,
>
> Jonathan Cohn
>
>
>
> > On Jun 7, 2021, at 15:00, dan d.  wrote:
> >
> >
> >
> > A key commander can use all 26 letter keys and all numbers if you use the 
> > numpad commmander version.
> >
> > On Mon, 7 Jun 2021, Jonathan Cohn wrote:
> >
> >> =Hello,
> >>
> >> I was listening to the communication about Voiceover issues on Saturday 
> >> and somebody complained about the difficulty of using VO-command-space to 
> >> get to actions on the notifications. OF course one can always add 
> >> commanders, but these end up being limited in the keys you can use.
> >> I know that with Automator one can create "quick actions" and then assign 
> >> keyboard commands to them in system preferences
> >> So I fired up the automator tool, created a new quick action automation 
> >> with just a do AppleScript in it.
> >> I then added in the AppleScript area the following code:
> >> on run
> >>tell application "VoiceOver"
> >>tell commander
> >>perform command "actions"
> >>end tell
> >>end tell
> >> end run
> >>
> >> Editor and verifying that this caused the co-command-space functionality.
> >> I pressed compile, pressed the run button and it appeared to work.
> >> So, I saved it as "voiceover actions".
> >> I set up a keyboard shortcut in system preferences keyboard  shortcuts 
> >> services
> >>
> >> Now to test it out???
> >> First issue: in notification center, the keystroke just beeped at me. (so 
> >> probably a limitation of Notification not accepting keyboard input.
> >> 1Then just to make sure my general logic worked, I tried it in text edit.
> >> Second issue:  Got an error:
> >> The action ???Run AppleScript??? encountered an error: ???VoiceOver got an 
> >> error: "actions" doesn???t understand the ???perform command??? message.???
> >>
> >> Which is quite strange because it should have been sending the "perform 
> >> command"  message to commander with an argument of "actions".
> >>
> >> If anybody wants to play with this code and see if they can get better 
> >> results I would be interested.
> >>
> >> Jonathan
> >>
> >>Best wishes,
> >>
> >> Jonathan Cohn
> >>
> >>
> >>
> >>
> >
> > --
> > Dan d.
> > XR
>
>

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Re: Applescript commander acting strange.

[Jonathan Cohn]

OK yes, but there is still a need for scripting to work consistently. 
Best wishes,

Jonathan Cohn



> On Jun 7, 2021, at 15:00, dan d.  wrote:
> 
> 
> 
> A key commander can use all 26 letter keys and all numbers if you use the 
> numpad commmander version.
> 
> On Mon, 7 Jun 2021, Jonathan Cohn wrote:
> 
>> =Hello,
>> 
>> I was listening to the communication about Voiceover issues on Saturday and 
>> somebody complained about the difficulty of using VO-command-space to get to 
>> actions on the notifications. OF course one can always add commanders, but 
>> these end up being limited in the keys you can use.
>> I know that with Automator one can create "quick actions" and then assign 
>> keyboard commands to them in system preferences
>> So I fired up the automator tool, created a new quick action automation with 
>> just a do AppleScript in it.
>> I then added in the AppleScript area the following code:
>> on run
>>  tell application "VoiceOver"
>>  tell commander
>>  perform command "actions"
>>  end tell
>>  end tell
>> end run
>> 
>> Editor and verifying that this caused the co-command-space functionality.
>> I pressed compile, pressed the run button and it appeared to work.
>> So, I saved it as "voiceover actions".
>> I set up a keyboard shortcut in system preferences keyboard  shortcuts 
>> services
>> 
>> Now to test it out???
>> First issue: in notification center, the keystroke just beeped at me. (so 
>> probably a limitation of Notification not accepting keyboard input.
>> 1Then just to make sure my general logic worked, I tried it in text edit.
>> Second issue:  Got an error:
>> The action ???Run AppleScript??? encountered an error: ???VoiceOver got an 
>> error: "actions" doesn???t understand the ???perform command??? message.???
>> 
>> Which is quite strange because it should have been sending the "perform 
>> command"  message to commander with an argument of "actions".
>> 
>> If anybody wants to play with this code and see if they can get better 
>> results I would be interested.
>> 
>> Jonathan
>> 
>>  Best wishes,
>> 
>> Jonathan Cohn
>> 
>> 
>> 
>> 
> 
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> XR

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Re: Applescript commander acting strange.

[dan d.]

A key commander can use all 26 letter keys and all numbers if you use the 
numpad commmander version.

On Mon, 7 Jun 2021, Jonathan Cohn wrote:

> =Hello,
>
> I was listening to the communication about Voiceover issues on Saturday and 
> somebody complained about the difficulty of using VO-command-space to get to 
> actions on the notifications. OF course one can always add commanders, but 
> these end up being limited in the keys you can use.
> I know that with Automator one can create "quick actions" and then assign 
> keyboard commands to them in system preferences
> So I fired up the automator tool, created a new quick action automation with 
> just a do AppleScript in it.
> I then added in the AppleScript area the following code:
> on run
>   tell application "VoiceOver"
>   tell commander
>   perform command "actions"
>   end tell
>   end tell
> end run
>
> Editor and verifying that this caused the co-command-space functionality.
> I pressed compile, pressed the run button and it appeared to work.
> So, I saved it as "voiceover actions".
> I set up a keyboard shortcut in system preferences keyboard  shortcuts 
> services
>
> Now to test it out???
> First issue: in notification center, the keystroke just beeped at me. (so 
> probably a limitation of Notification not accepting keyboard input.
> 1Then just to make sure my general logic worked, I tried it in text edit.
> Second issue:  Got an error:
> The action ???Run AppleScript??? encountered an error: ???VoiceOver got an 
> error: "actions" doesn???t understand the ???perform command??? message.???
>
> Which is quite strange because it should have been sending the "perform 
> command"  message to commander with an argument of "actions".
>
> If anybody wants to play with this code and see if they can get better 
> results I would be interested.
>
> Jonathan
>
>   Best wishes,
>
> Jonathan Cohn
>
>
>
>

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RE: Applescript

[Simon Fogarty]

Hey Tim,

 That was my thought Also,
 

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Subject: Re: Applescript

Hi,

When you originally set up the keyboard, did it ask you to press the key to the 
right of the left shift, and the key to the left of the right shift key?  If 
not, try going into System Prefs, Keyboard, and see if it can properly identify 
your keyboard in the Setup Keyboard area.

Later...

Tim Kilburn
Fort McMurray, AB Canada

On Jan 22, 2017, at 16:08, E.T. <ancient.ali...@icloud.com> wrote:

  Ok I did the VO K on all the keys. The right option key is silent. The left 
and right arrow keys actually will move left or right but VO does speak the up 
and down arrow keys.

>From E.T.'s Keyboard. . .
 I have seen the truth and it makes no sense.
E-mail: ancient.ali...@icloud.com

On 1/22/2017 1:41 PM, Tim Kilburn wrote:
> Hi,
> 
> It sounds like your MacOS is not recognizing that your new keyboard has a 
> left and right option key.  It may be the keyboard's fault, in that the left 
> and right option keys are sent as exactly the same key-stoke, or it may be 
> something to do with the way the MacOS maps third party keyboards.  When you 
> use VO-k to have VO tell you what keys are what, is the key your pressing 
> actually the right option key?
> 
> Later...
> 
> Tim Kilburn
> Fort McMurray, AB Canada
> 
> On Jan 22, 2017, at 14:13, E.T. <ancient.ali...@icloud.com> wrote:
> 
>  Not sure what has happened except that some gremlins may have moved in.
> 
>  Now its Applescript. Though scripts are in the right folder, keyboard 
> commander is enabled, when I press right option key (as set in preferences) 
> and a letter such as b or t, the script is not executed. Must be one setting 
> I am overlooking. What may it be? Thanks.
> 
> From E.T.'s Keyboard. . .
> I have seen the truth and it makes no sense.
> E-mail: ancient.ali...@icloud.com
> 

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RE: Applescript

[Simon Fogarty]

Hi,

 Just wondering if when you first connected the keyboard which I'm assuming is 
a windows keyboard I assume this from the model number K800 that you listed 
earlier.

When you connect a non Mac keyboard you normally get asked to set the keyboard 
up as it's unknown 

 Did you do this before the board started getting used?

 You might need to remove the keyboard and re configure it with the Mac OS so 
it knows what your using.

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Sent: Monday, 23 January 2017 10:41 AM
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Subject: Re: Applescript

Hi,

It sounds like your MacOS is not recognizing that your new keyboard has a left 
and right option key.  It may be the keyboard's fault, in that the left and 
right option keys are sent as exactly the same key-stoke, or it may be 
something to do with the way the MacOS maps third party keyboards.  When you 
use VO-k to have VO tell you what keys are what, is the key your pressing 
actually the right option key?

Later...

Tim Kilburn
Fort McMurray, AB Canada

On Jan 22, 2017, at 14:13, E.T. <ancient.ali...@icloud.com> wrote:

  Not sure what has happened except that some gremlins may have moved in.

  Now its Applescript. Though scripts are in the right folder, keyboard 
commander is enabled, when I press right option key (as set in preferences) and 
a letter such as b or t, the script is not executed. Must be one setting I am 
overlooking. What may it be? Thanks.

>From E.T.'s Keyboard. . .
 I have seen the truth and it makes no sense.
E-mail: ancient.ali...@icloud.com

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Re: Applescript

[E.T.]

   Yes a few times. Just now I changed from right option key to left in 
VO Utility, Commanders, Keyboard. I will see if any conflicts arise from 
that as I use the Mac.


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On 1/22/2017 8:03 PM, Tim Kilburn wrote:

Hi,

When you originally set up the keyboard, did it ask you to press the key to the 
right of the left shift, and the key to the left of the right shift key?  If 
not, try going into System Prefs, Keyboard, and see if it can properly identify 
your keyboard in the Setup Keyboard area.

Later...

Tim Kilburn
Fort McMurray, AB Canada

On Jan 22, 2017, at 16:08, E.T.  wrote:

  Ok I did the VO K on all the keys. The right option key is silent. The left 
and right arrow keys actually will move left or right but VO does speak the up 
and down arrow keys.

From E.T.'s Keyboard. . .
 I have seen the truth and it makes no sense.
E-mail: ancient.ali...@icloud.com

On 1/22/2017 1:41 PM, Tim Kilburn wrote:

Hi,

It sounds like your MacOS is not recognizing that your new keyboard has a left 
and right option key.  It may be the keyboard's fault, in that the left and 
right option keys are sent as exactly the same key-stoke, or it may be 
something to do with the way the MacOS maps third party keyboards.  When you 
use VO-k to have VO tell you what keys are what, is the key your pressing 
actually the right option key?

Later...

Tim Kilburn
Fort McMurray, AB Canada

On Jan 22, 2017, at 14:13, E.T.  wrote:

 Not sure what has happened except that some gremlins may have moved in.

 Now its Applescript. Though scripts are in the right folder, keyboard 
commander is enabled, when I press right option key (as set in preferences) and 
a letter such as b or t, the script is not executed. Must be one setting I am 
overlooking. What may it be? Thanks.

From E.T.'s Keyboard. . .
I have seen the truth and it makes no sense.
E-mail: ancient.ali...@icloud.com





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Re: Applescript

[Tim Kilburn]

Hi,

When you originally set up the keyboard, did it ask you to press the key to the 
right of the left shift, and the key to the left of the right shift key?  If 
not, try going into System Prefs, Keyboard, and see if it can properly identify 
your keyboard in the Setup Keyboard area.

Later...

Tim Kilburn
Fort McMurray, AB Canada

On Jan 22, 2017, at 16:08, E.T.  wrote:

  Ok I did the VO K on all the keys. The right option key is silent. The left 
and right arrow keys actually will move left or right but VO does speak the up 
and down arrow keys.

>From E.T.'s Keyboard. . .
 I have seen the truth and it makes no sense.
E-mail: ancient.ali...@icloud.com

On 1/22/2017 1:41 PM, Tim Kilburn wrote:
> Hi,
> 
> It sounds like your MacOS is not recognizing that your new keyboard has a 
> left and right option key.  It may be the keyboard's fault, in that the left 
> and right option keys are sent as exactly the same key-stoke, or it may be 
> something to do with the way the MacOS maps third party keyboards.  When you 
> use VO-k to have VO tell you what keys are what, is the key your pressing 
> actually the right option key?
> 
> Later...
> 
> Tim Kilburn
> Fort McMurray, AB Canada
> 
> On Jan 22, 2017, at 14:13, E.T.  wrote:
> 
>  Not sure what has happened except that some gremlins may have moved in.
> 
>  Now its Applescript. Though scripts are in the right folder, keyboard 
> commander is enabled, when I press right option key (as set in preferences) 
> and a letter such as b or t, the script is not executed. Must be one setting 
> I am overlooking. What may it be? Thanks.
> 
> From E.T.'s Keyboard. . .
> I have seen the truth and it makes no sense.
> E-mail: ancient.ali...@icloud.com
> 

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Re: Applescript

[E.T.]

   Ok I did the VO K on all the keys. The right option key is silent. 
The left and right arrow keys actually will move left or right but VO 
does speak the up and down arrow keys.


From E.T.'s Keyboard. . .
  I have seen the truth and it makes no sense.
E-mail: ancient.ali...@icloud.com

On 1/22/2017 1:41 PM, Tim Kilburn wrote:

Hi,

It sounds like your MacOS is not recognizing that your new keyboard has a left 
and right option key.  It may be the keyboard's fault, in that the left and 
right option keys are sent as exactly the same key-stoke, or it may be 
something to do with the way the MacOS maps third party keyboards.  When you 
use VO-k to have VO tell you what keys are what, is the key your pressing 
actually the right option key?

Later...

Tim Kilburn
Fort McMurray, AB Canada

On Jan 22, 2017, at 14:13, E.T.  wrote:

  Not sure what has happened except that some gremlins may have moved in.

  Now its Applescript. Though scripts are in the right folder, keyboard 
commander is enabled, when I press right option key (as set in preferences) and 
a letter such as b or t, the script is not executed. Must be one setting I am 
overlooking. What may it be? Thanks.

From E.T.'s Keyboard. . .
 I have seen the truth and it makes no sense.
E-mail: ancient.ali...@icloud.com



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Re: Applescript

[Tim Kilburn]

Hi,

It sounds like your MacOS is not recognizing that your new keyboard has a left 
and right option key.  It may be the keyboard's fault, in that the left and 
right option keys are sent as exactly the same key-stoke, or it may be 
something to do with the way the MacOS maps third party keyboards.  When you 
use VO-k to have VO tell you what keys are what, is the key your pressing 
actually the right option key?

Later...

Tim Kilburn
Fort McMurray, AB Canada

On Jan 22, 2017, at 14:13, E.T.  wrote:

  Not sure what has happened except that some gremlins may have moved in.

  Now its Applescript. Though scripts are in the right folder, keyboard 
commander is enabled, when I press right option key (as set in preferences) and 
a letter such as b or t, the script is not executed. Must be one setting I am 
overlooking. What may it be? Thanks.

>From E.T.'s Keyboard. . .
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Re: AppleScript

[Larry Thacker Jr.]

Thanks.  I will start there.

> On Aug 15, 2016, at 10:29 AM, Jonathan Cohn  wrote:
> 
> Larry, 
> 
> If you start up Script Editor on your macintosh, than under the help area is 
> an AppleScript guide. 
> Essentially you send messages to an application and they will send back 
> replies that can then be stored in variables. In the more recent Apple OS's 
> you can also use JavaScript for the base language. 
> 
> I generally try to divide what I am attempting to script into small blocks 
> and get those tested. So for example if I am wanting to automate the saving 
> of attachments from a specific e-mail into a folder, I created an AppleScript 
> command to do this function and tested it out quite a bit.
> To start writing a function you do something like 
> 
> on SaveMessageAttachments from MessageList to aFolder  
> 
> End SaveMessageAttachments
> 
> In this example MessageList and aFolder are variables. 
> 
> In the block of the SaveMessageAttachments you might do something like 
> 
> tell mail
> repeat with aMessage in MessageList 
> set FileName to subject of a Message 
> end tell 
> 
> tell finder 
> set StorageFolder to  make new Folder with name   FileName 
> End Tell 
> tell mail 
> repeat with OneAttachment in ( attachments of   theMessage )
> copy OneAttachment to StorageFolder
> End Repeat
> End Repeat 
> 
>  
> 
> There are really very few builtin commands in AppleScript most of the work 
> involves getting properties of things and performing actions on  things.  
> Some of the properties of things give you new things like the attachments 
> property of a Mail message. 
> 
> I started a mailing list to discuss automation on the Macintosh but we never 
> got very far.  If you have ideas and want to join, I will be glad to provide 
> any support needed. 
> 
> I am so used to doing things already, that I generally don't go for scripting 
> except at the shell script level 
> 
> Best Wishes,
> 
> Jonathan Cohn 
> 
> On Sat, Aug 13, 2016 at 7:01 PM Larry Thacker Jr.  > wrote:
> Are there resources you would recommend for learning AppleScript?  I think 
> that is the next step in my education if I want to become as efficient with 
> the Mac as I was with Windows.  As for my search for sanity.  I think I have 
> abandoned that.
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Re: AppleScript

[Jonathan Cohn]

Larry,

If you start up Script Editor on your macintosh, than under the help area
is an AppleScript guide.
Essentially you send messages to an application and they will send back
replies that can then be stored in variables. In the more recent Apple OS's
you can also use JavaScript for the base language.

I generally try to divide what I am attempting to script into small blocks
and get those tested. So for example if I am wanting to automate the saving
of attachments from a specific e-mail into a folder, I created an
AppleScript command to do this function and tested it out quite a bit.
To start writing a function you do something like

on SaveMessageAttachments from MessageList to aFolder

End SaveMessageAttachments

In this example MessageList and aFolder are variables.

In the block of the SaveMessageAttachments you might do something like

tell mail
repeat with aMessage in MessageList
set FileName to subject of a Message
end tell

tell finder
set StorageFolder to  make new Folder with name   FileName
End Tell
tell mail
repeat with OneAttachment in ( attachments of   theMessage )
copy OneAttachment to StorageFolder
End Repeat
End Repeat



There are really very few builtin commands in AppleScript most of the work
involves getting properties of things and performing actions on  things.
Some of the properties of things give you new things like the attachments
property of a Mail message.

I started a mailing list to discuss automation on the Macintosh but we
never got very far.  If you have ideas and want to join, I will be glad to
provide any support needed.

I am so used to doing things already, that I generally don't go for
scripting except at the shell script level

Best Wishes,

Jonathan Cohn

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larry.thacker...@gmail.com> wrote:

> Are there resources you would recommend for learning AppleScript?  I think
> that is the next step in my education if I want to become as efficient with
> the Mac as I was with Windows.  As for my search for sanity.  I think I
> have abandoned that.
>
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Re: Applescript Use Voiceover Find

[Jonathan Cohn]

Are you getting an error? I am pasting a code snippet I used to move the VO 
cursor to the sound menu extra a while back. I gave up on the script because I 
wanted to option click the sound menu, but could not get that step to work.

tell application "VoiceOver"
tell vo cursor
output "Looking for sound menu extra..."
move to menu extras
delay 0.5
set info to ""

repeat until info contains "Sound"
move right
delay 0.75
set info to text under cursor

end repeat
if info contains "Sound" then
perform action
delay 0.1
End Tell 
End Tell

Reviewing this code, I believe it actually clicks the menu (perform action) . 

Another thing you might look at is the text library. 

I believe you should be able to do something like:
select the first paragraph that contains "#" 

Were you using the VoiceOver find or the application find?

Best wishes,

Jonathan Cohn 



> On 10 May 2016, at 21:03, Brandon A. Olivares  
> wrote:
> 
> Hello,
> 
> I’m trying to use Applescript to enter the voiceover find dialog (vo-f), 
> enter some text, and then hit return to try to find that text.
> 
> I can’t seem to figure it out. With system events, I successfully got the 
> voiceover dialog up, but can’t search for anything.
> 
> I need to search for the character #.
> 
> Any idea how I can do this?
> 
> Brandon
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Re: AppleScript and TimeMachine

[Alex Hall]

Indeed there is. I don't like having to open System Preferences just to do 
this, and I hoped there would be a cleaner way. After all, if you're going to 
run a script that has to open the Time Machine preference pane anyway, it's 
little different from opening and reading the pane yourself, at least that's my 
feeling on the subject.
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 TimeMachine uses the System Preference pane to control it, and there is 
 useful information in the system control pane like Disk size and backup 
 status. 
 
 So we could probably find the “id” string of the time machine preference 
 panel, and then go from there. I know I saw a script in the UI Elements 
 folder called Get User Name that retrieves information from the Users 
 preference pane so that could be a starting point.
 
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Re: Applescript basics

[Alex Hall]

Time Machine is something I looked into, but it turned out that little to no TM 
information is available to AppleScript, unfortunately. I just had a look in 
Safari's scripting dictionary, and downloads aren't mentioned once, so it looks 
like a script couldn't access that information either.
 On Feb 28, 2015, at 8:01 AM, Eugenia Firth gigifi...@me.com wrote:
 
 Hi guys: 
 I am beginning to see the advantages of learning Apple script, or, if I find 
 it too technical for me, cheering on someone else with those skills. I 
 definitely cheer you on, Alex, for having given me my favorite ones, checking 
 the time and date and checking battery status. I would like another one, and 
 I would like to know first, if it would work, and second, how could I make a 
 copy of and edit a script to do it. When I do my Time Machine backups, I want 
 to check the status. How can that be done with an Apple script so it would 
 work like the battery checking one? Checking download status would be nice, 
 too, but I am doing the other more often lately. 
 
 All this brings another question. Has anybody written instructions as to how 
 to do this or has the instructions been put into a podcast somewhere or on 
 iTunes U? 
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Re: Applescript basics

[Eugenia Firth]

 Hi guys: 
I am beginning to see the advantages of learning Apple script, or, if I find it 
too technical for me, cheering on someone else with those skills. I definitely 
cheer you on, Alex, for having given me my favorite ones, checking the time and 
date and checking battery status. I would like another one, and I would like to 
know first, if it would work, and second, how could I make a copy of and edit a 
script to do it. When I do my Time Machine backups, I want to check the status. 
How can that be done with an Apple script so it would work like the battery 
checking one? Checking download status would be nice, too, but I am doing the 
other more often lately. 

All this brings another question. Has anybody written instructions as to how to 
do this or has the instructions been put into a podcast somewhere or on iTunes 
U? 
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Re: Applescript basics

[Eugenia Firth]

Thanks Alex 
I guess I will need to continue to go to the extras menu for the Time Machine 
and option command l for downloads. Hey, at least I can do it. 

Gigi 

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 Time Machine is something I looked into, but it turned out that little to no 
 TM information is available to AppleScript, unfortunately. I just had a look 
 in Safari's scripting dictionary, and downloads aren't mentioned once, so it 
 looks like a script couldn't access that information either.
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 mailto:gigifi...@me.com wrote:
 
 Hi guys: 
 I am beginning to see the advantages of learning Apple script, or, if I find 
 it too technical for me, cheering on someone else with those skills. I 
 definitely cheer you on, Alex, for having given me my favorite ones, 
 checking the time and date and checking battery status. I would like another 
 one, and I would like to know first, if it would work, and second, how could 
 I make a copy of and edit a script to do it. When I do my Time Machine 
 backups, I want to check the status. How can that be done with an Apple 
 script so it would work like the battery checking one? Checking download 
 status would be nice, too, but I am doing the other more often lately. 
 
 All this brings another question. Has anybody written instructions as to how 
 to do this or has the instructions been put into a podcast somewhere or on 
 iTunes U? 
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RE: Applescript to double click at voiceover cursor

[george b]

I would be interested in scripting for apple also

 

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On Behalf Of Daniela Rubio
Sent: Friday, February 27, 2015 07:51
To: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: Applescript to double click at voiceover cursor

 

Hello all!

I am very pleased to see this topic on the list about scripts.

I am very interested as well. I used to do some scripting, but I lost my grip 
on it dew to lack of time and other situations. So, If you make the discussion 
group about Apple Scripts, count on me!

Thank you again!

 

Daniela Rubio T

iPhone: +34662328507

 

 

 

El 27/2/2015, a las 14:29, Donna Goodin doniado...@me.com 
mailto:doniado...@me.com  escribió:

 

Thanks for sharing, Jonathan, this will be really handy.  And I, for one, would 
be interested in the call to discuss AppleScript.  I've always wanted to learn 
it, but figuring out how to get started seems sort of daunting.

Cheers,

Donna

On Feb 26, 2015, at 10:03 PM, Jonathan C Cohn jon.c.c...@gmail.com 
mailto:jon.c.c...@gmail.com  wrote:

 

Good day,

 

Below starting with the word “use” is an apple script that  Jürgen and I wrote. 
This will double click with the mouse on the VoiceOver cursor. It will of 
course only work reliably when your VoiceOver cursor is over a non-grouped 
item. . This has only been tested by two people, and I have only tested it in 
about 3 places so your experience are welcome. 

 

Also, for anybody interested I might attempt to create a call in to discuss 
AppleScript starting from a beginner perspective. 

 

use application VoiceOver

tell commander

perform command move mouse pointer to voiceover cursor

delay 1

end tell

output mouse summary

tell mouse cursor

click twice

end tell

 

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Re: Applescript to double click at voiceover cursor

[Donna Goodin]

Thanks for sharing, Jonathan, this will be really handy.  And I, for one, would 
be interested in the call to discuss AppleScript.  I've always wanted to learn 
it, but figuring out how to get started seems sort of daunting.
Cheers,
Donna
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   Good day,
 
 Below starting with the word “use” is an apple script that  Jürgen and I 
 wrote. This will double click with the mouse on the VoiceOver cursor. It will 
 of course only work reliably when your VoiceOver cursor is over a non-grouped 
 item. . This has only been tested by two people, and I have only tested it in 
 about 3 places so your experience are welcome. 
 
 Also, for anybody interested I might attempt to create a call in to discuss 
 AppleScript starting from a beginner perspective. 
 
 use application VoiceOver
 tell commander
   perform command move mouse pointer to voiceover cursor
   delay 1
 end tell
 output mouse summary
 tell mouse cursor
   click twice
 end tell
 
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Re: Applescript challenge

[Jürgen Fleger]

Did you try a three finger swipe up and down when interacted with the e-mail 
content?
Jürgen
 Am 27.02.2015 um 13:59 schrieb David Griffith daj.griff...@gmail.com:
 
 I guess I should set this up as a project for myself but I know nothing about 
 Applescripts.
 
 One of the really frustrating things for me is the lack of a page down or up 
 command which can work in Mail Messages. This means that in really long text 
 email messages, for example in a mail digest the only navigation options are 
 by line or to the top or bottom of the email. Even a quick nav paragraph 
 granularity will only deliver a single line as there is a line break at the 
 end of each line.
 
 This  makes navigating these digests tedious especially if they contain lots 
 of repeated previous messages contents in their threads.
 
 I wonder how difficult it would be to set up a script which had the affect of 
 forcing the cursor to jump say 25 or 30  lines down or up, thus emulating  a 
 page up or down command.
 
 I have tried all the available VO navigation options in Numpad and Keypad 
 commander but none of them will work in Mail Messages so this would be a 
 genuinely useful script.
 
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Re: Applescript challenge

[David Griffith]

I do not routinely use trackpad commander but unless I am mistaken I 
understand this command to be a command to read a page?
 Actually the way I use my mac I normally sit about 10feet away from it 
in an armchair with headphones and keyboard and never use a trackpad so 
I will have to try it out by making a rare foray to my actual Mac. 
However what I want to do is not read the page but navigate or jump down 
25 or 30 lines without the tedium of reading all the repeated messages 
in a Mail digest.


David Griffith

On 27/02/2015 13:13, Jürgen Fleger wrote:

Did you try a three finger swipe up and down when interacted with the e-mail 
content?
Jürgen

Am 27.02.2015 um 13:59 schrieb David Griffith daj.griff...@gmail.com:

I guess I should set this up as a project for myself but I know nothing about 
Applescripts.

One of the really frustrating things for me is the lack of a page down or up 
command which can work in Mail Messages. This means that in really long text 
email messages, for example in a mail digest the only navigation options are by 
line or to the top or bottom of the email. Even a quick nav paragraph 
granularity will only deliver a single line as there is a line break at the end 
of each line.

This  makes navigating these digests tedious especially if they contain lots of 
repeated previous messages contents in their threads.

I wonder how difficult it would be to set up a script which had the affect of 
forcing the cursor to jump say 25 or 30  lines down or up, thus emulating  a 
page up or down command.

I have tried all the available VO navigation options in Numpad and Keypad 
commander but none of them will work in Mail Messages so this would be a 
genuinely useful script.

David Griffith

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Re: Applescript challenge

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Well, there might be issues with Rich Text / HTML e-mails. But in general you 
would want to use the text object of the current object. basically if you 
change the text 
I know that the Text object provides paragraph and sentence access, but I am 
not sure about line numbers. If you bring up the library for the Mail app or 
the Textedit application, then you should be able to find information about the 
text object.

selection, this will move the keyboard cursor. 

Sent from my iPhone

 On Feb 27, 2015, at 8:13 AM, Jürgen Fleger apple-engl...@fleger.net wrote:
 
 Did you try a three finger swipe up and down when interacted with the e-mail 
 content?
 Jürgen
 Am 27.02.2015 um 13:59 schrieb David Griffith daj.griff...@gmail.com:
 
 I guess I should set this up as a project for myself but I know nothing 
 about Applescripts.
 
 One of the really frustrating things for me is the lack of a page down or up 
 command which can work in Mail Messages. This means that in really long text 
 email messages, for example in a mail digest the only navigation options are 
 by line or to the top or bottom of the email. Even a quick nav paragraph 
 granularity will only deliver a single line as there is a line break at the 
 end of each line.
 
 This  makes navigating these digests tedious especially if they contain lots 
 of repeated previous messages contents in their threads.
 
 I wonder how difficult it would be to set up a script which had the affect 
 of forcing the cursor to jump say 25 or 30  lines down or up, thus emulating 
  a page up or down command.
 
 I have tried all the available VO navigation options in Numpad and Keypad 
 commander but none of them will work in Mail Messages so this would be a 
 genuinely useful script.
 
 David Griffith
 
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Re: Applescript to double click at voiceover cursor

[Daniela Rubio]

Hello all!
I am very pleased to see this topic on the list about scripts.
I am very interested as well. I used to do some scripting, but I lost my grip 
on it dew to lack of time and other situations. So, If you make the discussion 
group about Apple Scripts, count on me!
Thank you again!

Daniela Rubio T
iPhone: +34662328507




 El 27/2/2015, a las 14:29, Donna Goodin doniado...@me.com escribió:
 
 Thanks for sharing, Jonathan, this will be really handy.  And I, for one, 
 would be interested in the call to discuss AppleScript.  I've always wanted 
 to learn it, but figuring out how to get started seems sort of daunting.
 Cheers,
 Donna
 On Feb 26, 2015, at 10:03 PM, Jonathan C Cohn jon.c.c...@gmail.com 
 mailto:jon.c.c...@gmail.com wrote:
 
  Good day,
 
 Below starting with the word “use” is an apple script that  Jürgen and I 
 wrote. This will double click with the mouse on the VoiceOver cursor. It 
 will of course only work reliably when your VoiceOver cursor is over a 
 non-grouped item. . This has only been tested by two people, and I have only 
 tested it in about 3 places so your experience are welcome. 
 
 Also, for anybody interested I might attempt to create a call in to discuss 
 AppleScript starting from a beginner perspective. 
 
 use application VoiceOver
 tell commander
  perform command move mouse pointer to voiceover cursor
  delay 1
 end tell
 output mouse summary
 tell mouse cursor
  click twice
 end tell
 
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Re: Applescript to double click at voiceover cursor

[Jürgen Fleger]

A big thanks to Jonathan for this script. It helped me in two ways: Firstly I 
can perform a „real“ double mouse click now. I experienced issues sometimes 
using VO + Shift + Space twice under certain conditions. It sometimes simply 
didn’t work and I had to switch off Trackpad Commander to perform a real mouse 
click twice.
And secondly it allows to perform a right mouse click without switching 
Trackpad Commander off either. As you might experienced yourself there’s no 
reliable way anymore of performing a right mouse click using VoiceOver. At 
least on my Mac it doesn’t work reliably. I modified the script just a little 
bit so that I could perform this right click without pressing VO + CMD + FN + 
F5 and then switching Trackpad Commander off and then CTRL + click on my 
Trackpad. Too much manual work in my opinion if I use a Computer. So Jonathan 
scripts make my life much easier now and maybe also for you. To delete a 
template in Pages seems to work mor reliable as well.

Here’s the modified script for the right click:

use application VoiceOver
tell commander
perform command move mouse pointer to voiceover cursor
delay 1
end tell
output mouse summary
tell mouse cursor
click once with right button
end tell

 Am 27.02.2015 um 05:03 schrieb Jonathan C Cohn jon.c.c...@gmail.com:
 
 use application VoiceOver
 tell commander
   perform command move mouse pointer to voiceover cursor
   delay 1
 end tell
 output mouse summary
 tell mouse cursor
   click twice
 end tell
 
All the best
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Re: Applescript help

[Phil Halton]

I’ve come to this script late. I would like to know what the “package” is and 
if it is geared towards teaching apple script creation? I’m an old Cobol, RPG, 
Bal, Pascal, APL, Basic etc … programmer from way back and wouldn’t mind 
getting back into it for the odd script writing need.
thanks

 On Feb 25, 2015, at 9:17 PM, Alex Hall mehg...@icloud.com wrote:
 
 Glad you got it working, and sorry I didn't think to check that all the 
 scripts were together. Note that a warning about exactly this problem is 
 already in the Readme file. I'll paste it here:
 
 ##Q: None of the scripts are working! What is going on?
 A: The most likely cause is that you have separated the script(s) from the 
 two libraries they need. Please be sure to keep all the scripts together. If 
 you absolutely have to put one or more scripts in a folder on their own, make 
 sure to include getResourceInfo.scpt and utilities.scpt in the folder as 
 well. I discourage you from separating the scripts like this, though, since 
 it will make updating them harder and is more prone to problems.
 
 On Feb 25, 2015, at 6:51 PM, The Believer ancient.ali...@icloud.com 
 mailto:ancient.ali...@icloud.com wrote:
 
 Alex,
   I think this topic got sidetracked. Well I did resolve my issue. To be 
 honest, while your readme was very informative. what would have been helpful 
 to me new to Applecript would have been an outline of the steps necessary.
 
   The missing step was to put the utilities.scpt and getInfo.scpt files in 
 the same folder with the scripts I wanted to use. I got my clue from 
 googling which was to test scripts by Run-ning them from the Script menu. 
 That gave me an error dialog and I now can use the scripts.
 
 From The Believer. . .
 . . . what if it were true?
 ancient.ali...@icloud.com mailto:ancient.ali...@icloud.com
 
 On 2/25/2015 3:41 PM, Alex Hall wrote:
 If we're still talking about Talking Dashboard, I know it works since I use 
 it all the time. Have you modified the script in any way at all? Do other 
 commanders work?
 On Feb 25, 2015, at 6:17 PM, Jonathan C Cohn jon.c.c...@gmail.com wrote:
 
 Send me a copy of the script and I can give it a try.
 
 Is output using the output command or the say command? Or perhaps the code 
 from the Apple version was taken, which checks if VoiceOVer is running and 
 also makes sure that applescripts can control voiceover. in any case the 
 first thing to do is verify that the script runs in script editor.
 
 On Feb 25, 2015, at 18:06, Anders Holmberg and...@pipkrokodil.se wrote:
 
 Hi!
 I have the same problem.
 THe voiceover date and time script does not work.
 Not even my right command v for muting speech.
 That is not a script though.
 /A
 25 feb 2015 kl. 20:21 skrev The Believer ancient.ali...@icloud.com:
 
 Using scripts from the Talking Dashboard, placed in ~/Library/Scripts. 
 Unedited as I am not able to get these to work after pointing the 
 Keyboard commander to the script in its folder. So its not the script 
 itself. Default modifier key is right option.
 
 For example, the date and time script. If I set the commander back to 
 the default time of day, option t gives me the desired result. Set to 
 the date and time script, nothing, no click, no ding, just silence.
 
 What am I missing. It has to be so simple I am overlooking it.
 
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Re: Applescript help

[Alex Hall]

If we're still talking about Talking Dashboard, I know it works since I use it 
all the time. Have you modified the script in any way at all? Do other 
commanders work?
 On Feb 25, 2015, at 6:17 PM, Jonathan C Cohn jon.c.c...@gmail.com wrote:
 
 Send me a copy of the script and I can give it a try. 
 
 Is output using the output command or the say command? Or perhaps the code 
 from the Apple version was taken, which checks if VoiceOVer is running and 
 also makes sure that applescripts can control voiceover. in any case the 
 first thing to do is verify that the script runs in script editor.
 
 On Feb 25, 2015, at 18:06, Anders Holmberg and...@pipkrokodil.se wrote:
 
 Hi!
 I have the same problem.
 THe voiceover date and time script does not work.
 Not even my right command v for muting speech.
 That is not a script though.
 /A
 25 feb 2015 kl. 20:21 skrev The Believer ancient.ali...@icloud.com:
 
 Using scripts from the Talking Dashboard, placed in ~/Library/Scripts. 
 Unedited as I am not able to get these to work after pointing the Keyboard 
 commander to the script in its folder. So its not the script itself. 
 Default modifier key is right option.
 
 For example, the date and time script. If I set the commander back to the 
 default time of day, option t gives me the desired result. Set to the date 
 and time script, nothing, no click, no ding, just silence.
 
 What am I missing. It has to be so simple I am overlooking it.
 
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Re: Applescript help

[Alex Hall]

Glad you got it working, and sorry I didn't think to check that all the scripts 
were together. Note that a warning about exactly this problem is already in the 
Readme file. I'll paste it here:

##Q: None of the scripts are working! What is going on?
A: The most likely cause is that you have separated the script(s) from the two 
libraries they need. Please be sure to keep all the scripts together. If you 
absolutely have to put one or more scripts in a folder on their own, make sure 
to include getResourceInfo.scpt and utilities.scpt in the folder as well. I 
discourage you from separating the scripts like this, though, since it will 
make updating them harder and is more prone to problems.

 On Feb 25, 2015, at 6:51 PM, The Believer ancient.ali...@icloud.com wrote:
 
 Alex,
   I think this topic got sidetracked. Well I did resolve my issue. To be 
 honest, while your readme was very informative. what would have been helpful 
 to me new to Applecript would have been an outline of the steps necessary.
 
   The missing step was to put the utilities.scpt and getInfo.scpt files in 
 the same folder with the scripts I wanted to use. I got my clue from googling 
 which was to test scripts by Run-ning them from the Script menu. That gave me 
 an error dialog and I now can use the scripts.
 
 From The Believer. . .
 . . . what if it were true?
 ancient.ali...@icloud.com
 
 On 2/25/2015 3:41 PM, Alex Hall wrote:
 If we're still talking about Talking Dashboard, I know it works since I use 
 it all the time. Have you modified the script in any way at all? Do other 
 commanders work?
 On Feb 25, 2015, at 6:17 PM, Jonathan C Cohn jon.c.c...@gmail.com wrote:
 
 Send me a copy of the script and I can give it a try.
 
 Is output using the output command or the say command? Or perhaps the code 
 from the Apple version was taken, which checks if VoiceOVer is running and 
 also makes sure that applescripts can control voiceover. in any case the 
 first thing to do is verify that the script runs in script editor.
 
 On Feb 25, 2015, at 18:06, Anders Holmberg and...@pipkrokodil.se wrote:
 
 Hi!
 I have the same problem.
 THe voiceover date and time script does not work.
 Not even my right command v for muting speech.
 That is not a script though.
 /A
 25 feb 2015 kl. 20:21 skrev The Believer ancient.ali...@icloud.com:
 
 Using scripts from the Talking Dashboard, placed in ~/Library/Scripts. 
 Unedited as I am not able to get these to work after pointing the 
 Keyboard commander to the script in its folder. So its not the script 
 itself. Default modifier key is right option.
 
 For example, the date and time script. If I set the commander back to the 
 default time of day, option t gives me the desired result. Set to the 
 date and time script, nothing, no click, no ding, just silence.
 
 What am I missing. It has to be so simple I am overlooking it.
 
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Re: Applescript help

[The Believer]

Alex,
   I think this topic got sidetracked. Well I did resolve my issue. To 
be honest, while your readme was very informative. what would have been 
helpful to me new to Applecript would have been an outline of the steps 
necessary.


   The missing step was to put the utilities.scpt and getInfo.scpt 
files in the same folder with the scripts I wanted to use. I got my clue 
from googling which was to test scripts by Run-ning them from the Script 
menu. That gave me an error dialog and I now can use the scripts.


From The Believer. . .
 . . . what if it were true?
ancient.ali...@icloud.com

On 2/25/2015 3:41 PM, Alex Hall wrote:

If we're still talking about Talking Dashboard, I know it works since I use it 
all the time. Have you modified the script in any way at all? Do other 
commanders work?

On Feb 25, 2015, at 6:17 PM, Jonathan C Cohn jon.c.c...@gmail.com wrote:

Send me a copy of the script and I can give it a try.

Is output using the output command or the say command? Or perhaps the code from 
the Apple version was taken, which checks if VoiceOVer is running and also 
makes sure that applescripts can control voiceover. in any case the first thing 
to do is verify that the script runs in script editor.


On Feb 25, 2015, at 18:06, Anders Holmberg and...@pipkrokodil.se wrote:

Hi!
I have the same problem.
THe voiceover date and time script does not work.
Not even my right command v for muting speech.
That is not a script though.
/A

25 feb 2015 kl. 20:21 skrev The Believer ancient.ali...@icloud.com:

Using scripts from the Talking Dashboard, placed in ~/Library/Scripts. Unedited 
as I am not able to get these to work after pointing the Keyboard commander to 
the script in its folder. So its not the script itself. Default modifier key is 
right option.

For example, the date and time script. If I set the commander back to the 
default time of day, option t gives me the desired result. Set to the date and 
time script, nothing, no click, no ding, just silence.

What am I missing. It has to be so simple I am overlooking it.

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Re: Applescript help

[Jonathan C Cohn]

Send me a copy of the script and I can give it a try. 

Is output using the output command or the say command? Or perhaps the code from 
the Apple version was taken, which checks if VoiceOVer is running and also 
makes sure that applescripts can control voiceover. in any case the first thing 
to do is verify that the script runs in script editor.

 On Feb 25, 2015, at 18:06, Anders Holmberg and...@pipkrokodil.se wrote:
 
 Hi!
 I have the same problem.
 THe voiceover date and time script does not work.
 Not even my right command v for muting speech.
 That is not a script though.
 /A
 25 feb 2015 kl. 20:21 skrev The Believer ancient.ali...@icloud.com:
 
  Using scripts from the Talking Dashboard, placed in ~/Library/Scripts. 
 Unedited as I am not able to get these to work after pointing the Keyboard 
 commander to the script in its folder. So its not the script itself. Default 
 modifier key is right option.
 
  For example, the date and time script. If I set the commander back to the 
 default time of day, option t gives me the desired result. Set to the date 
 and time script, nothing, no click, no ding, just silence.
 
  What am I missing. It has to be so simple I am overlooking it.
 
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Re: Applescript help

[Anders Holmberg]

Hi!
I have the same problem.
THe voiceover date and time script does not work.
Not even my right command v for muting speech.
That is not a script though.
/A
 25 feb 2015 kl. 20:21 skrev The Believer ancient.ali...@icloud.com:
 
   Using scripts from the Talking Dashboard, placed in ~/Library/Scripts. 
 Unedited as I am not able to get these to work after pointing the Keyboard 
 commander to the script in its folder. So its not the script itself. Default 
 modifier key is right option.
 
   For example, the date and time script. If I set the commander back to the 
 default time of day, option t gives me the desired result. Set to the date 
 and time script, nothing, no click, no ding, just silence.
 
   What am I missing. It has to be so simple I am overlooking it.
 
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Re: Applescript help

[The Believer]

   My brain is an old sponge, not so plastic any more. It was too much 
information to absorb at one time but now that its working, its good. I 
will be moving on to a couple other scripts and see what I can do with them.


   Thanks for putting this together with all the scripts.

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On 2/25/2015 6:17 PM, Alex Hall wrote:

Glad you got it working, and sorry I didn't think to check that all the scripts 
were together. Note that a warning about exactly this problem is already in the 
Readme file. I'll paste it here:

##Q: None of the scripts are working! What is going on?
A: The most likely cause is that you have separated the script(s) from the two 
libraries they need. Please be sure to keep all the scripts together. If you 
absolutely have to put one or more scripts in a folder on their own, make sure 
to include getResourceInfo.scpt and utilities.scpt in the folder as well. I 
discourage you from separating the scripts like this, though, since it will 
make updating them harder and is more prone to problems.


On Feb 25, 2015, at 6:51 PM, The Believer ancient.ali...@icloud.com wrote:

Alex,
   I think this topic got sidetracked. Well I did resolve my issue. To be 
honest, while your readme was very informative. what would have been helpful to 
me new to Applecript would have been an outline of the steps necessary.

   The missing step was to put the utilities.scpt and getInfo.scpt files in the 
same folder with the scripts I wanted to use. I got my clue from googling which 
was to test scripts by Run-ning them from the Script menu. That gave me an 
error dialog and I now can use the scripts.

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On 2/25/2015 3:41 PM, Alex Hall wrote:

If we're still talking about Talking Dashboard, I know it works since I use it 
all the time. Have you modified the script in any way at all? Do other 
commanders work?

On Feb 25, 2015, at 6:17 PM, Jonathan C Cohn jon.c.c...@gmail.com wrote:

Send me a copy of the script and I can give it a try.

Is output using the output command or the say command? Or perhaps the code from 
the Apple version was taken, which checks if VoiceOVer is running and also 
makes sure that applescripts can control voiceover. in any case the first thing 
to do is verify that the script runs in script editor.


On Feb 25, 2015, at 18:06, Anders Holmberg and...@pipkrokodil.se wrote:

Hi!
I have the same problem.
THe voiceover date and time script does not work.
Not even my right command v for muting speech.
That is not a script though.
/A

25 feb 2015 kl. 20:21 skrev The Believer ancient.ali...@icloud.com:

Using scripts from the Talking Dashboard, placed in ~/Library/Scripts. Unedited 
as I am not able to get these to work after pointing the Keyboard commander to 
the script in its folder. So its not the script itself. Default modifier key is 
right option.

For example, the date and time script. If I set the commander back to the 
default time of day, option t gives me the desired result. Set to the date and 
time script, nothing, no click, no ding, just silence.

What am I missing. It has to be so simple I am overlooking it.

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Re: applescript or command line which should I us

['Chris Blouch' via MacVisionaries]

The open-source Sox package can convert audio files to ogg. If you need 
to convert a whole pile of them then you can just make a loop in a shell 
script. Googling around I found this:


for i in *.wav; do sox  $i `echo $i|sed 's/wav$/ogg/'`;done

In the above example the source files are assumed to end in .wav. Each 
file is encoded to .ogg and the file extension has .wav replaced with .ogg.


CB

On 12/25/14 9:40 AM, Scott Berry wrote:

Hello there,

I have a folder where I need to have some .jpg and .giff’s used.  I also need 
it to then convert music tracks from their native format to ogg.  I know that 
Xld does have the command line tool for this?  What I am wondering is can you 
call a command line operation from an Applescrippt file or do you have to do 
command line stuff separately/  Also where is there a good example base for 
Applescript?




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Re: applescript or command line which should I us

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The core services in OS X might be able to handle this; have a look in 
Automator, and on applevis.com for my guide on how to do it. If you do need the 
command line, and you want to use AppleScript, just use the so shell script 
command.
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 I have a folder where I need to have some .jpg and .giff’s used.  I also need 
 it to then convert music tracks from their native format to ogg.  I know that 
 Xld does have the command line tool for this?  What I am wondering is can you 
 call a command line operation from an Applescrippt file or do you have to do 
 command line stuff separately/  Also where is there a good example base for 
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Re: AppleScript (was calendar questions)

[Jessica D]

Could I make one to dconvert files to certain formats if necessary?

Sent from my iPad

 On Jul 5, 2014, at 4:01 PM, Alex Hall mehg...@icloud.com wrote:
 
 It's pretty easy, yes. I learned everything from simply googling, starting 
 with basics of AppleScript and moving on from there. It helps to have a 
 goal in mind, such as making some reminders, or pulling data from certain 
 emails, or mass-renaming things in Finder, that kind of thing. In other 
 words, it's better, I think, to identify a goal and then learn the scripting 
 to accomplish it, instead of learning random parts of scripting with no clear 
 direction. Several people on this list are handy with AppleScript, so if you 
 get stuck, you can ask on here (assuming the moderators approve).
 On Jul 5, 2014, at 3:53 PM, Jessica D jldai...@gmail.com wrote:
 
 How do you make apple scripts? Is it easy?
 
 Sent from my iPad
 
 On Jul 5, 2014, at 3:50 PM, Alex Hall mehg...@icloud.com wrote:
 
 My first thought is a Workflow; add the New Calendar item to it, configure 
 it, then just envelope the workflow to add your event. Alternatively, as I 
 know you do some programming, you might want to investigate making an 
 AppleScript for the job, to do everything at once.
 On Jul 5, 2014, at 3:46 PM, Littlefield, Tyler ty...@tysdomain.com wrote:
 
 Hello all:
 I had a couple questions:
 I'm adding a ton of events to one calendar and trying to make this quick.
 1) Can I set the default calendar to add events to for a while?
 2) Even though I choose the day, for whatever reason every time I add a 
 new event I have to choose the exact day again. can I just move day by day 
 and add events?
 3) I turned timezone on, can I set a default timezone so I don't have to 
 choose that every time?
 
 This is incredibly slow work, so any advice would be awesome.
 Thanks,
 
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Re: AppleScript (was calendar questions)

[Alex Hall]

Yes, though a workflow might be better for that. Check out the Automator app 
built into every Mac to create workflows. If you get stuck using it, let us 
know; it is easy to use, but only once you know some tricks that are not 
apparent going in.
On Jul 5, 2014, at 4:04 PM, Jessica D jldai...@gmail.com wrote:

 Could I make one to dconvert files to certain formats if necessary?
 
 Sent from my iPad
 
 On Jul 5, 2014, at 4:01 PM, Alex Hall mehg...@icloud.com wrote:
 
 It's pretty easy, yes. I learned everything from simply googling, starting 
 with basics of AppleScript and moving on from there. It helps to have a 
 goal in mind, such as making some reminders, or pulling data from certain 
 emails, or mass-renaming things in Finder, that kind of thing. In other 
 words, it's better, I think, to identify a goal and then learn the scripting 
 to accomplish it, instead of learning random parts of scripting with no 
 clear direction. Several people on this list are handy with AppleScript, so 
 if you get stuck, you can ask on here (assuming the moderators approve).
 On Jul 5, 2014, at 3:53 PM, Jessica D jldai...@gmail.com wrote:
 
 How do you make apple scripts? Is it easy?
 
 Sent from my iPad
 
 On Jul 5, 2014, at 3:50 PM, Alex Hall mehg...@icloud.com wrote:
 
 My first thought is a Workflow; add the New Calendar item to it, configure 
 it, then just envelope the workflow to add your event. Alternatively, as I 
 know you do some programming, you might want to investigate making an 
 AppleScript for the job, to do everything at once.
 On Jul 5, 2014, at 3:46 PM, Littlefield, Tyler ty...@tysdomain.com wrote:
 
 Hello all:
 I had a couple questions:
 I'm adding a ton of events to one calendar and trying to make this quick.
 1) Can I set the default calendar to add events to for a while?
 2) Even though I choose the day, for whatever reason every time I add a 
 new event I have to choose the exact day again. can I just move day by 
 day and add events?
 3) I turned timezone on, can I set a default timezone so I don't have to 
 choose that every time?
 
 This is incredibly slow work, so any advice would be awesome.
 Thanks,
 
 -- 
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Re: AppleScript (was calendar questions)

[Jonathan C. Cohn]

There are certainly graphic conversion commands in Apple Script. You can also 
use the save as directive and I believe in most applications there is a type 
argument that can be specified. I can look a bit further if you let me know 
source and destination and if I have a program that can  handle the source type.


Best wishes,

Jonathan



On Jul 5, 2014, at 4:04 PM, Jessica D jldai...@gmail.com wrote:

 Could I make one to dconvert files to certain formats if necessary?
 
 Sent from my iPad
 
 On Jul 5, 2014, at 4:01 PM, Alex Hall mehg...@icloud.com wrote:
 
 It's pretty easy, yes. I learned everything from simply googling, starting 
 with basics of AppleScript and moving on from there. It helps to have a 
 goal in mind, such as making some reminders, or pulling data from certain 
 emails, or mass-renaming things in Finder, that kind of thing. In other 
 words, it's better, I think, to identify a goal and then learn the scripting 
 to accomplish it, instead of learning random parts of scripting with no 
 clear direction. Several people on this list are handy with AppleScript, so 
 if you get stuck, you can ask on here (assuming the moderators approve).
 On Jul 5, 2014, at 3:53 PM, Jessica D jldai...@gmail.com wrote:
 
 How do you make apple scripts? Is it easy?
 
 Sent from my iPad
 
 On Jul 5, 2014, at 3:50 PM, Alex Hall mehg...@icloud.com wrote:
 
 My first thought is a Workflow; add the New Calendar item to it, configure 
 it, then just envelope the workflow to add your event. Alternatively, as I 
 know you do some programming, you might want to investigate making an 
 AppleScript for the job, to do everything at once.
 On Jul 5, 2014, at 3:46 PM, Littlefield, Tyler ty...@tysdomain.com wrote:
 
 Hello all:
 I had a couple questions:
 I'm adding a ton of events to one calendar and trying to make this quick.
 1) Can I set the default calendar to add events to for a while?
 2) Even though I choose the day, for whatever reason every time I add a 
 new event I have to choose the exact day again. can I just move day by 
 day and add events?
 3) I turned timezone on, can I set a default timezone so I don't have to 
 choose that every time?
 
 This is incredibly slow work, so any advice would be awesome.
 Thanks,
 
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Re: AppleScript to Open the Current Safari Tab in Google Chrome

[Daniela Rubio]

By the way, How can I uninstall Flash player?

Best

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El 28/04/2014, a las 14:29, Nicholas Parsons mr.nicholas.pars...@gmail.com 
escribió:

 If your'e like me, you keep you're Mac that much safer and don't bother 
 installing Adobe Flash Player. Most of the time this works fine, but every 
 now and then you come across the odd youtube video which requires Flash 
 Player.
 
 The perfect solution in this situation is to open the current Safari tab in 
 Google Chrome, which has Flash Player built in.
 
 Well, my new AppleScript will do this for you automatically. It will even 
 close the original Safari tab for you if it has opened successfully in Google 
 Chrome.
 
 To read more and download the script, VO-space here.
 
 Feel free to subscribe to my blog for updates on new AppleScripts and 
 automation tips to come.
 
 Best,
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Re: AppleScript to Open the Current Safari Tab in Google Chrome

[Teresa Cochran]

Find Adobe Flash Player in the apps folder and press command-backspace to 
remove it.

HtH,
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On Apr 29, 2014, at 12:38 AM, Daniela Rubio mabuha...@gmail.com wrote:

 By the way, How can I uninstall Flash player?
 
 Best
 
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 El 28/04/2014, a las 14:29, Nicholas Parsons mr.nicholas.pars...@gmail.com 
 escribió:
 
 If your'e like me, you keep you're Mac that much safer and don't bother 
 installing Adobe Flash Player. Most of the time this works fine, but every 
 now and then you come across the odd youtube video which requires Flash 
 Player.
 
 The perfect solution in this situation is to open the current Safari tab in 
 Google Chrome, which has Flash Player built in.
 
 Well, my new AppleScript will do this for you automatically. It will even 
 close the original Safari tab for you if it has opened successfully in 
 Google Chrome.
 
 To read more and download the script, VO-space here.
 
 Feel free to subscribe to my blog for updates on new AppleScripts and 
 automation tips to come.
 
 Best,
 Nic
 
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Re: AppleScript to Open the Current Safari Tab in Google Chrome

[Caitlyn and Maggie]

thanks!
I'll give it a look later today.
automation and scripting are interesting to me, but I don't know anything about 
either yet!
Cait

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wrote:

 Hi Kait,
 
 It's as Phil said. But here's the link again if that's easier.
 
 Kawal and Chris, I've heard about those solutions too, and was interested. 
 I'm sure they're great. I just feel better knowing my Mac is free of Adobe 
 Flash Player (and Java too for that matter). I like not having to deal with 
 downloading/installing updates to Flash Player, and I think not having flash 
 installed forces some sites to display HTML5 instead of flash. It's really 
 only very, very occasionally that I come across anything that requires flash 
 (admittedly I'm not the biggest youtube addict), and when I do Google Chrome 
 is the perfect solution for me as it's always running the latest Flash 
 Player. Silly as it is, I also don't really want to use Flash Player when I 
 feel their efforts at accessibility have been pretty rubbish (which can be 
 distinguished from the good work Adobe has done for PDFs). 
 
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Re: AppleScript to Open the Current Safari Tab in Google Chrome

[Caitlyn and Maggie]

So, Nick..
Can you give the link for your blog?
thanks,
Cait

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wrote:

 If your'e like me, you keep you're Mac that much safer and don't bother 
 installing Adobe Flash Player. Most of the time this works fine, but every 
 now and then you come across the odd youtube video which requires Flash 
 Player.
 
 The perfect solution in this situation is to open the current Safari tab in 
 Google Chrome, which has Flash Player built in.
 
 Well, my new AppleScript will do this for you automatically. It will even 
 close the original Safari tab for you if it has opened successfully in Google 
 Chrome.
 
 To read more and download the script, VO-space here.
 
 Feel free to subscribe to my blog for updates on new AppleScripts and 
 automation tips to come.
 
 Best,
 Nic
 
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Re: AppleScript to Open the Current Safari Tab in Google Chrome

[Kawal Gucukoglu]

In Adobe Flash player settings, you can get Flash Player to ask if you want 
information to be stored on to your computer. I told it to ask each time which 
enables me to keep my computer safe.

 On 28 Apr 2014, at 01:29 pm, Nicholas Parsons mr.nicholas.pars...@gmail.com 
 wrote:
 
 If your'e like me, you keep you're Mac that much safer and don't bother 
 installing Adobe Flash Player. Most of the time this works fine, but every 
 now and then you come across the odd youtube video which requires Flash 
 Player.
 
 The perfect solution in this situation is to open the current Safari tab in 
 Google Chrome, which has Flash Player built in.
 
 Well, my new AppleScript will do this for you automatically. It will even 
 close the original Safari tab for you if it has opened successfully in Google 
 Chrome.
 
 To read more and download the script, VO-space here.
 
 Feel free to subscribe to my blog for updates on new AppleScripts and 
 automation tips to come.
 
 Best,
 Nic
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Re: AppleScript to Open the Current Safari Tab in Google Chrome

['Chris Blouch cblo...@aol.com' via MacVisionaries]

There is also Click To Flash which turns any flash into a non-operating 
widget which you must action before it will load. That way you can leave 
Flash installed and only enable it when you want it.


http://hoyois.github.io/safariextensions/clicktoplugin/

CB

On 4/28/14, 10:12 AM, Kawal Gucukoglu wrote:
In Adobe Flash player settings, you can get Flash Player to ask if you 
want information to be stored on to your computer. I told it to ask 
each time which enables me to keep my computer safe.


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mr.nicholas.pars...@gmail.com mailto:mr.nicholas.pars...@gmail.com 
wrote:


If your'e like me, you keep you're Mac that much safer and don't 
bother installing Adobe Flash Player. Most of the time this works 
fine, but every now and then you come across the odd youtube video 
which requires Flash Player.


The perfect solution in this situation is to open the current Safari 
tab in Google Chrome, which has Flash Player built in.


Well, my new AppleScript will do this for you automatically. It will 
even close the original Safari tab for you if it has opened 
successfully in Google Chrome.


To read more and download the script, VO-space here 
https://nicholascharlesparsons.wordpress.com/2014/04/28/open-safari-tab-in-google-chrome/.


Feel free to subscribe to my blog for updates on new AppleScripts and 
automation tips to come.


Best,
Nic
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Re: AppleScript to Open the Current Safari Tab in Google Chrome

[Phil Halton]

if you follow the link to download the script, it will bring you to his blog 
where you can read more and subscribe if desired.

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wrote:

 So, Nick..
 Can you give the link for your blog?
 thanks,
 Cait
 
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 wrote:
 
 If your'e like me, you keep you're Mac that much safer and don't bother 
 installing Adobe Flash Player. Most of the time this works fine, but every 
 now and then you come across the odd youtube video which requires Flash 
 Player.
 
 The perfect solution in this situation is to open the current Safari tab in 
 Google Chrome, which has Flash Player built in.
 
 Well, my new AppleScript will do this for you automatically. It will even 
 close the original Safari tab for you if it has opened successfully in 
 Google Chrome.
 
 To read more and download the script, VO-space here.
 
 Feel free to subscribe to my blog for updates on new AppleScripts and 
 automation tips to come.
 
 Best,
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Re: AppleScript to Open the Current Safari Tab in Google Chrome

[Nicholas Parsons]

Hi Kait,

It's as Phil said. But here's the link again if that's easier.

Kawal and Chris, I've heard about those solutions too, and was interested. I'm 
sure they're great. I just feel better knowing my Mac is free of Adobe Flash 
Player (and Java too for that matter). I like not having to deal with 
downloading/installing updates to Flash Player, and I think not having flash 
installed forces some sites to display HTML5 instead of flash. It's really only 
very, very occasionally that I come across anything that requires flash 
(admittedly I'm not the biggest youtube addict), and when I do Google Chrome is 
the perfect solution for me as it's always running the latest Flash Player. 
Silly as it is, I also don't really want to use Flash Player when I feel their 
efforts at accessibility have been pretty rubbish (which can be distinguished 
from the good work Adobe has done for PDFs). 

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Re: applescript

[Alex Hall]

I learned by googling it. It is really simple, as close to a plain English 
programming language as I've ever seen...
Tell application Finder to set the clipboard to the path of the selected file
stuff like that. Basically, identify a task you want to do in Aplescript, then 
google that particular task. You'll learn as you go along. At least, that's 
what worked for me.
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Re: applescript

[Jim Gatteys]

Cool, thanks, Alex.  I just have some tasks that I'd like to do and looking at 
automator or scripting to do these tasks.
Thanks,
jg

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 I learned by googling it. It is really simple, as close to a plain English 
 programming language as I've ever seen...
 Tell application Finder to set the clipboard to the path of the selected 
 file
 stuff like that. Basically, identify a task you want to do in Aplescript, 
 then google that particular task. You'll learn as you go along. At least, 
 that's what worked for me.
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Re: applescript

[CJ Daniel]

Jim,

There's a book or two specifically addressing Apple Scripting on bookshare.org. 
 I know I downloaded one @ some point in the past.

Good luck,

CJ

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 Cool, thanks, Alex.  I just have some tasks that I'd like to do and looking 
 at automator or scripting to do these tasks.
 Thanks,
 jg
 
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 I learned by googling it. It is really simple, as close to a plain English 
 programming language as I've ever seen...
 Tell application Finder to set the clipboard to the path of the selected 
 file
 stuff like that. Basically, identify a task you want to do in Aplescript, 
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 that's what worked for me.
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Re: AppleScript to batch export from Pages to Word [Re: :pages export annoyance]

[Yuma Decaux]

Hi Esther group of exclamation marks :)

Thanks so much for taking the time to look into it.

Will try it out after mug of coffee, and dissect the script.

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Re: AppleScript to move files [was Re: problem moving files to another folder]

[Eric Caron]

Dear list,

I'm new at using scripts.  This is my first attempt.  I retrieved the 
Move script and I thought followed the directions correctly but when I press 
the command for the short cut nothing happens.  Is there a place where I can 
find a step by step guide to installing a script such as this one?

Also, My computer calls it a work flow is that different then a script?  when I 
open the Move file script it opens in Automator.  I don't know really  ifthat 
is good or bad or means nothing.

I have a feeling scripts could be very helpful but as a newbee I would love 
some direction.

eric Caron 
 


,
On Nov 9, 2010, at 2:51 PM, Esther wrote:

 Hi David,
 
 Yes, I use the original Automator script that Greg Kearney wrote quite a long 
 time ago (when he was still in the U.S. and could host a web site listing the 
 accessibility of VoiceOver compatible software).  However, since that site is 
 long gone, your best bet to get a Move script is to go to the English 
 version of the site of the Italian Mac User group that Rossy maintains at:
 
 http://www.universalaccess.it/script-english/
 
 Then get the move script.  And speaking of useful AppleScripts that are 
 about to go away, if you have not yet picked up the RestartAt AppleScript 
 that allows you move to an arbitrary time in any iTunes track (music, 
 audiobook, podcast, movie, etc.), I would do so now from Tim Kilburn's 
 VoiceOver Downloads page at:
 
 http://homepage.mac.com/kilburns/voiceover/downloads.html
 
 before it goes off-line TODAY with all the other original dot Mac homepages.  
 The alternative is browsing in the Mail Archive pages for the old list and 
 trying to read, copy, and paste it all from one of my very old posts.
 
 Cheers,
 
 Esther
 
 
 On Nov 9, 2010, at 09:12, David Hole wrote:
 
 Hi.
 Speaking of moving files... Wasn't there a little automator-script-thingy 
 that someone made for doing this?
 
 Den 09.11.2010 19:20, skrev Esther:
 Hi Marlaina,
 
 Do you know about the software product, MoveAddict? It allows you to
 cut and paste files in Finder, and also allows you to merge folders
 instead of replacing them. This was a MacUpdate promo offer at the end
 of October, and you can still purchase it at a lesser discount for $6.49
 from the mupromo site for the next 3 and a half days:
 
 http://www.mupromo.com/deal/1330/moveaddict
 
 Here's a link to the MacWorld review of MoveAddict:
 
 http://www.macworld.com/reviews/product/563803/review/moveaddict_151.html
 
 Note that if you purchase from the MacUpdate promo site, you'll need to
 initially create an account, which involves negotiating a CAPTCHA. You
 can go to the Solona web site for tools to help you negotiate this:
 http://www.solona.net/
 
 HTH. Cheers,
 
 Esther
 
 
 On Nov 9, 2010, at 08:03, Marlaina Lieberg wrote:
 
 I once had this problem solved, but now I cannot seem to accomplish
 moving a file from one folder to another. I copy the file I want,
 navigate to the folder I want, navigate into that folder and try to
 paste and all I get is either a message asking me if I want to replace
 the one I currently have, or a second copy of the same file located
 just above the first file but with the word copy added to its name. As
 I say, I did figure this out once but now I'm stuck. Can anyone help?
 
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Re: AppleScript to move files [was Re: problem moving files to another folder]

[Marlaina Lieberg]

Wow, what a treasure chest Tim put together.  I hope it continues somewhere, 
though I nabbed a lot!
On Nov 9, 2010, at 11:51 AM, Esther wrote:

Hi David,

Yes, I use the original Automator script that Greg Kearney wrote quite a long 
time ago (when he was still in the U.S. and could host a web site listing the 
accessibility of VoiceOver compatible software).  However, since that site is 
long gone, your best bet to get a Move script is to go to the English version 
of the site of the Italian Mac User group that Rossy maintains at:

http://www.universalaccess.it/script-english/

Then get the move script.  And speaking of useful AppleScripts that are about 
to go away, if you have not yet picked up the RestartAt AppleScript that 
allows you move to an arbitrary time in any iTunes track (music, audiobook, 
podcast, movie, etc.), I would do so now from Tim Kilburn's VoiceOver Downloads 
page at:

http://homepage.mac.com/kilburns/voiceover/downloads.html

before it goes off-line TODAY with all the other original dot Mac homepages.  
The alternative is browsing in the Mail Archive pages for the old list and 
trying to read, copy, and paste it all from one of my very old posts.

Cheers,

Esther


On Nov 9, 2010, at 09:12, David Hole wrote:

 Hi.
 Speaking of moving files... Wasn't there a little automator-script-thingy 
 that someone made for doing this?
 
 Den 09.11.2010 19:20, skrev Esther:
 Hi Marlaina,
 
 Do you know about the software product, MoveAddict? It allows you to
 cut and paste files in Finder, and also allows you to merge folders
 instead of replacing them. This was a MacUpdate promo offer at the end
 of October, and you can still purchase it at a lesser discount for $6.49
 from the mupromo site for the next 3 and a half days:
 
 http://www.mupromo.com/deal/1330/moveaddict
 
 Here's a link to the MacWorld review of MoveAddict:
 
 http://www.macworld.com/reviews/product/563803/review/moveaddict_151.html
 
 Note that if you purchase from the MacUpdate promo site, you'll need to
 initially create an account, which involves negotiating a CAPTCHA. You
 can go to the Solona web site for tools to help you negotiate this:
 http://www.solona.net/
 
 HTH. Cheers,
 
 Esther
 
 
 On Nov 9, 2010, at 08:03, Marlaina Lieberg wrote:
 
 I once had this problem solved, but now I cannot seem to accomplish
 moving a file from one folder to another. I copy the file I want,
 navigate to the folder I want, navigate into that folder and try to
 paste and all I get is either a message asking me if I want to replace
 the one I currently have, or a second copy of the same file located
 just above the first file but with the word copy added to its name. As
 I say, I did figure this out once but now I'm stuck. Can anyone help?
 
 Marlaina
 
 

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Re: AppleScript to move files [was Re: problem moving files to another folder]

[Tim Kilburn]

Hi,

I have moved my pages from the HomePage portion of my me.com to what is now 
called the web portion of me.com.  Therefore, you can use the following 
address/link to get at the same information:

http://web.me.com/kilburns/voiceover/

One of these days, if work ever slows down (yah right), I'll update some things 
to the snow Leopard version.

Later..

Tim Kilburn
Fort McMurray, AB Canada

On 2010-11-09, at 4:59 PM, Marlaina Lieberg wrote:

 Wow, what a treasure chest Tim put together.  I hope it continues somewhere, 
 though I nabbed a lot!
 On Nov 9, 2010, at 11:51 AM, Esther wrote:
 
 Hi David,
 
 Yes, I use the original Automator script that Greg Kearney wrote quite a long 
 time ago (when he was still in the U.S. and could host a web site listing the 
 accessibility of VoiceOver compatible software).  However, since that site is 
 long gone, your best bet to get a Move script is to go to the English 
 version of the site of the Italian Mac User group that Rossy maintains at:
 
 http://www.universalaccess.it/script-english/
 
 Then get the move script.  And speaking of useful AppleScripts that are 
 about to go away, if you have not yet picked up the RestartAt AppleScript 
 that allows you move to an arbitrary time in any iTunes track (music, 
 audiobook, podcast, movie, etc.), I would do so now from Tim Kilburn's 
 VoiceOver Downloads page at:
 
 http://homepage.mac.com/kilburns/voiceover/downloads.html
 
 before it goes off-line TODAY with all the other original dot Mac homepages.  
 The alternative is browsing in the Mail Archive pages for the old list and 
 trying to read, copy, and paste it all from one of my very old posts.
 
 Cheers,
 
 Esther
 
 
 On Nov 9, 2010, at 09:12, David Hole wrote:
 
 Hi.
 Speaking of moving files... Wasn't there a little automator-script-thingy 
 that someone made for doing this?
 
 Den 09.11.2010 19:20, skrev Esther:
 Hi Marlaina,
 
 Do you know about the software product, MoveAddict? It allows you to
 cut and paste files in Finder, and also allows you to merge folders
 instead of replacing them. This was a MacUpdate promo offer at the end
 of October, and you can still purchase it at a lesser discount for $6.49
 from the mupromo site for the next 3 and a half days:
 
 http://www.mupromo.com/deal/1330/moveaddict
 
 Here's a link to the MacWorld review of MoveAddict:
 
 http://www.macworld.com/reviews/product/563803/review/moveaddict_151.html
 
 Note that if you purchase from the MacUpdate promo site, you'll need to
 initially create an account, which involves negotiating a CAPTCHA. You
 can go to the Solona web site for tools to help you negotiate this:
 http://www.solona.net/
 
 HTH. Cheers,
 
 Esther
 
 
 On Nov 9, 2010, at 08:03, Marlaina Lieberg wrote:
 
 I once had this problem solved, but now I cannot seem to accomplish
 moving a file from one folder to another. I copy the file I want,
 navigate to the folder I want, navigate into that folder and try to
 paste and all I get is either a message asking me if I want to replace
 the one I currently have, or a second copy of the same file located
 just above the first file but with the word copy added to its name. As
 I say, I did figure this out once but now I'm stuck. Can anyone help?
 
 Marlaina
 
 
 
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Re: AppleScript for Jumping to specific time in iTunes [was Re: Playback Counter in Itunes?]

[Jonathan Cohn]

Hmm good idea.  I haven't looked at at AppleScript objects for iTunes.
 I expect with a couple of properties a iTunes script could be written
that prompts for a bookmark name and then creates  a  a sdifferent
dialog could then pull up a combo box or list box of bookmarks.

If a audio bookmark management system was generated, should the
bookmarks be system wide or disk wide.

on


On 26/10/2010, Esther mori...@mac.com wrote:
 Hi Teresa and Kevin,

 There is a better solution and a way to jump to a specific time for
 any selected track in iTunes (video as well as audio).  Go to Tim
 Kilburn's VoiceOver Downloads page web site and get the RestartAt
 AppleScript:
 http://homepage.mac.com/kilburns/voiceover/downloads.html

 The download comes with full instructions for use.  Basically,
 AppleScripts allow you to design commands that function just like the
 commands from your menu bar. You copy the AppleScript into a Library/
 iTunes/Scripts folder in your home directory.  (The first time you use
 AppleScripts you'll have to create the Scripts folder).  Then, any
 AppleScripts in this folder show up under a separate AppleScripts menu
 on your iTunes menu bar. You use these scripted commands the same way
 you do any other menu bar commands: highlight a track that you are
 playing in the songs table, then navigate to the AppleScript menu on
 iTunes menu bar (I use Control+F2 and left arrow past the Help menu
 to get there).  Arrow down to the RestartAt menu option and press
 return.

 A dialog box will appear giving the (current) default position to
 start playback.  You can type in any other time in to the text box and
 press return, and your playback will start from that position.  If you
 simply press return, playback resumes at the current position.

 I'll just note that anyone interested in this script should download
 it before all Mac homepages go away on November 8, 2010.  I'm not sure
 whether Tim plans to move this page with the various VoiceOver related
 items that were assembled in the early days of this list. You can also
 assign a shortcut key combination to any AppleScript.  I'm a bit
 pressed for time, so if you want to read more details about using the
 RestartAt AppleScript, you can check my archived post on ringtone
 creation in iTunes (that uses this), or you can search for other
 entries in the Mail Archive by using the search text box on the page
 of the ringtone creation post link:

 http://www.mail-archive.com/macvisionaries%40googlegroups.com/msg09299.html

 HTH. Cheers,

 Esther

 On Oct 25, 2010, Kevin Shaw wrote:

 Hi Teresa,

 The short answer is no, however if you hit Command-I and then
 Command-5, the Get Info window will have an option to Remember
 Playback Position. Now, every time you move away and back to the
 file, it will play from where you left off.

 I'm surprised there is no Jump to Time feature in iTunes, nor is
 there the ability to create location markers. Two useful things I
 think they should implement.

 Hope this helps,
 Kevin


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Re: Applescript for automatically dragging a loop to the timeline

[Krister Ekstrom]

Hi,
I would wait until the new os or the fix or whatever comes out. I honestly 
don't see the point in being able to get loops into a project, since one or 2 
or however many bars the loops are are all we get. Once a loop is in the 
timeline, we can't see it so we can't manipulate it in any way, so i honestly 
don't see the point in this.
I may be stupid, i probably am, but that's how i see it anyway.
/Krister

6 jun 2010 kl. 03.23 skrev clarence griffin:

 I would like to test this out when you get a chance... I am not at all a 
 programmer but I will do my part to help. I don't know if its just better to 
 wait a few days or so for the update though..
 
 GF
 
 
 On Jun 5, 2010, at 3:08 AM, Yuma Antoine Decaux wrote:
 
 Hi listers,
 
 I went rapidly through the motion needed for dragging a highlighted loop 
 into the timeline.
 
 Here is the script snippet:
 
 ttell application Extra Suites
 ES mouse down
 ES move mouse to scroll area 2 of window 1 of application Garage Band
 Es mouse up
 end tell
 
 
 I used the Extra suites OSAX extension and found the object and element 
 hierarchy through GUI scripting app UI browser.
 
 Now i am not sure about the syntax standards as there are parenthesys in the 
 UI browser and they might have to be included within the Applescript.
 
 If i get this to work, we can basically save 5 steps in one.
 
 
 If anyone wants to test this out with me, you're welcome to contact me off 
 list
 
 Cheers
 
 Yuma DX®
 
 
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Re: Applescript for automatically dragging a loop to the timeline

[Yuma Antoine Decaux]

No you are not stupid, and just as you are entitled to your opinion, i am 
entitled to try and find a solution. It's only advantageous to me as it allows 
me to learn the intricacies of not only the garage band workflow but also of 
applescript, which itself will lead me to figure a mental map on objective c.

I'm a curious person by nature and like to find things out, a detective work of 
some sorts. And this brings me intuition and creativity.


And if somehow it can help others, then perfect. I don't like sitting my arse 
just waiting for a fix. I like fixing things or finding ways to do things when 
i buy a product So that it does what i want it to do. 

Anyway i found some more solutions out of this so its all good

Cheers

Yuma DX®

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Re: Applescript for automatically dragging a loop to the timeline

[Ricardo Walker]

Hi,

Lol.  Not really.  You can extend the loops as long as you desired once your 
have dropped it into the timeline.  You just cut and paste.  Here goes a 
tutorial on how to do it.
http://dl.dropbox.com/u/5326929/How%20to%20import%20your%20own%20samples%20into%20a%20garageband%20project.mp3
On Jun 6, 2010, at 4:31 AM, Krister Ekstrom wrote:

 Hi,
 I would wait until the new os or the fix or whatever comes out. I honestly 
 don't see the point in being able to get loops into a project, since one or 2 
 or however many bars the loops are are all we get. Once a loop is in the 
 timeline, we can't see it so we can't manipulate it in any way, so i honestly 
 don't see the point in this.
 I may be stupid, i probably am, but that's how i see it anyway.
 /Krister
 
 6 jun 2010 kl. 03.23 skrev clarence griffin:
 
 I would like to test this out when you get a chance... I am not at all a 
 programmer but I will do my part to help. I don't know if its just better to 
 wait a few days or so for the update though..
 
 GF
 
 
 On Jun 5, 2010, at 3:08 AM, Yuma Antoine Decaux wrote:
 
 Hi listers,
 
 I went rapidly through the motion needed for dragging a highlighted loop 
 into the timeline.
 
 Here is the script snippet:
 
 ttell application Extra Suites
 ES mouse down
 ES move mouse to scroll area 2 of window 1 of application Garage Band
 Es mouse up
 end tell
 
 
 I used the Extra suites OSAX extension and found the object and element 
 hierarchy through GUI scripting app UI browser.
 
 Now i am not sure about the syntax standards as there are parenthesys in 
 the UI browser and they might have to be included within the Applescript.
 
 If i get this to work, we can basically save 5 steps in one.
 
 
 If anyone wants to test this out with me, you're welcome to contact me off 
 list
 
 Cheers
 
 Yuma DX®
 
 
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 twitter: http://www.twitter.com/triple7
 Tel: +64 210 22 77 190 
 
 
 
 
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RE: Applescript for automatically dragging a loop to the timeline

[Bryan Smart]

Without commenting on the specific situation of copying loops in to GarageBand, 
just want to point out that learning AppleScript won't teach you anything about 
Objective-C. They're different, in practically every way. Java is more like 
Objective-C. Even C#.net is more like Objective-C.

Bryan

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From: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com [mailto:macvisionar...@googlegroups.com] 
On Behalf Of Yuma Antoine Decaux
Sent: Sunday, June 06, 2010 5:06 AM
To: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: Applescript for automatically dragging a loop to the timeline

No you are not stupid, and just as you are entitled to your opinion, i am 
entitled to try and find a solution. It's only advantageous to me as it allows 
me to learn the intricacies of not only the garage band workflow but also of 
applescript, which itself will lead me to figure a mental map on objective c.

I'm a curious person by nature and like to find things out, a detective work of 
some sorts. And this brings me intuition and creativity.


And if somehow it can help others, then perfect. I don't like sitting my arse 
just waiting for a fix. I like fixing things or finding ways to do things when 
i buy a product So that it does what i want it to do. 

Anyway i found some more solutions out of this so its all good

Cheers

Yuma DX(r)

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Re: Applescript for automatically dragging a loop to the timeline

[Yuma Antoine Decaux]

Applescript is object oriented just as objective c is.

This is how i could progress, from simple English understanding the concept of 
countenance and in parallel explore objective c.

So yes, they are actually related to what i do, since i work on automating 
things at my work place and learn programming in objective C for my iphone dev 
cell.

Cheers

Yuma DX®



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RE: Applescript for automatically dragging a loop to the timeline

[Bryan Smart]

OK. I wish you luck with it. For me, though, it would be confusing. The syntax 
is different. The APIs are different. I mean, Python is object oriented, too, 
but looks nothing like an Objective-C program. As long as it works for you, 
though.

Bryan

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On Behalf Of Yuma Antoine Decaux
Sent: Monday, June 07, 2010 12:39 AM
To: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: Applescript for automatically dragging a loop to the timeline

Applescript is object oriented just as objective c is.

This is how i could progress, from simple English understanding the concept of 
countenance and in parallel explore objective c.

So yes, they are actually related to what i do, since i work on automating 
things at my work place and learn programming in objective C for my iphone dev 
cell.

Cheers

Yuma DX(r)



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Re: Applescript for automatically dragging a loop to the timeline

[Yuma Antoine Decaux]

I know i like confusion, it allows me to put order in it :)

Cnsidering that i know 7 languages fluently, written and read, having 
applescript and objective c as my night table books or ipad in my case, is like 
strolling through another set of idions to decipher 

I'm sure there are myriads other ways to understand the similarities between 
languages but both applescript and objective c are polar continuations of my 
flash actionscript days, and they both fill what i need to do.

This said, it's definetely better to learn the language in a classroom with 
appointed times for these brain mash marathons.

Yuma DX®

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Re: Applescript for automatically dragging a loop to the timeline

[clarence griffin]

I would like to test this out when you get a chance... I am not at all a 
programmer but I will do my part to help. I don't know if its just better to 
wait a few days or so for the update though..

GF


On Jun 5, 2010, at 3:08 AM, Yuma Antoine Decaux wrote:

 Hi listers,
 
 I went rapidly through the motion needed for dragging a highlighted loop into 
 the timeline.
 
 Here is the script snippet:
 
 ttell application Extra Suites
 ES mouse down
 ES move mouse to scroll area 2 of window 1 of application Garage Band
 Es mouse up
 end tell
 
 
 I used the Extra suites OSAX extension and found the object and element 
 hierarchy through GUI scripting app UI browser.
 
 Now i am not sure about the syntax standards as there are parenthesys in the 
 UI browser and they might have to be included within the Applescript.
 
 If i get this to work, we can basically save 5 steps in one.
 
 
 If anyone wants to test this out with me, you're welcome to contact me off 
 list
 
 Cheers
 
 Yuma DX®
 
 
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 Tel: +64 210 22 77 190 
 
 
 
 
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Re: applescript

[Nicolai Svendsen]

Hi,

One thing I can say here, is that VoiceOver doesn't require it. It's important, 
in my opinion, to make the distinction between a screen reader that is 
practically dependent on them, and a screen reader for which it is not required 
to run applications or even use. I don't even believe AppleScript for VoiceOver 
was allowed before 10.6. I might be wrong, and if so I've never used it to 
improve either applications or its performance.

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On Dec 2, 2009, at 7:01 PM, John W. Carty wrote:

 I've been following this list for a good while now and I appreciate all the 
 good insight I've gained concerning the mac os and voiceover.
  
 I'm moving ever closer toward purchasing a mac but it seems like all screen 
 readers the access has limits.
  
 Has anyone attempted to improve voiceover performance thru applescript?
  
 If so, is there a web site where scripts are shared?
  
 I'm a long time jaws and we user and i've written a lot of scripts over the 
 years and without extensive scripting niether jaws nor we would offer nearly 
 the level of performance available today.
  
 Thanx,
  
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Re: applescript

[Tyler Littlefield]

hello,
The voiceover applescript is much different from the jaws script. Mainly you 
won't be actually controling the reader as much as just sending output back to 
it.
One issue I've noticed with it, is that it seems a bit slower than it shoudl be 
when running a command that accesses applescript; for example, time.

On Dec 2, 2009, at 11:01 AM, John W. Carty wrote:

 I've been following this list for a good while now and I appreciate all the 
 good insight I've gained concerning the mac os and voiceover.
  
 I'm moving ever closer toward purchasing a mac but it seems like all screen 
 readers the access has limits.
  
 Has anyone attempted to improve voiceover performance thru applescript?
  
 If so, is there a web site where scripts are shared?
  
 I'm a long time jaws and we user and i've written a lot of scripts over the 
 years and without extensive scripting niether jaws nor we would offer nearly 
 the level of performance available today.
  
 Thanx,
  
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Re: applescript

[Tyler Littlefield]

I don't believe applescript was used before 10.6, and as nick pointed out, 
voiceover is actually hard coded to work with the system rather than relying on 
functions and scripts to run the whole thing. If you look at jaws without it's 
scripts, it's essentially useless because most of the new updates they make run 
off of their scripts.
On Dec 2, 2009, at 11:27 AM, Nicolai Svendsen wrote:

 Hi,
 
 One thing I can say here, is that VoiceOver doesn't require it. It's 
 important, in my opinion, to make the distinction between a screen reader 
 that is practically dependent on them, and a screen reader for which it is 
 not required to run applications or even use. I don't even believe 
 AppleScript for VoiceOver was allowed before 10.6. I might be wrong, and if 
 so I've never used it to improve either applications or its performance.
 
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 I've been following this list for a good while now and I appreciate all the 
 good insight I've gained concerning the mac os and voiceover.
  
 I'm moving ever closer toward purchasing a mac but it seems like all screen 
 readers the access has limits.
  
 Has anyone attempted to improve voiceover performance thru applescript?
  
 If so, is there a web site where scripts are shared?
  
 I'm a long time jaws and we user and i've written a lot of scripts over the 
 years and without extensive scripting niether jaws nor we would offer nearly 
 the level of performance available today.
  
 Thanx,
  
 John
  
 
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Re: applescript

[Chris Hofstader]

While VO works very well in most cases without scripting, I would assume that 
one could add the really interesting augmentations that JAWS and WE provide in 
a lot of programs to make their users interactions more efficient.

I really want to explore doing this but I haven't had the time or energy to 
devote to learning any of it well enough to even understand what is and is not 
possible.  AppleScript has a lot of powerful ways to access a lot of 
applications and if the VO scripting interface offers enough ways to hook an 
application (do not mistake this with the dreaded video hooking in the 
traditional Windows screen access tools) it would likely be possible to do a 
lot of cool stuff.

If Numbers, the OpenOffice spreadsheet  or Tables  provides a extensibility 
model as rich as Excel on Windows, there's no reason why one couldn't do all of 
the nifty stuff that JAWS and WE provide.  These sort of features do not lend 
themselves to a generic accessibility solution like VO uses getting data from 
the accessibility API.  These augmentations require the software have a lot of 
knowledge about the program it intends to provide efficiency enhancements to.  

A whole lot of JAWS scripts are there for no other reason than to work around 
JAWS bugs.  This is not true for Window-Eyes as their scripting facility is a 
whole lot more powerful and, rather than just reading information from some 
rectangle on the screen aloud, it can do some extraordinarily interesting 
things by communicating with the automation layers in other programs.  WE .SET 
files, however, did a lot to work around bugs in Window-Eyes.

VO scripting wouldn't be to work around bugs but, rather, to provide really 
cool enhancements in areas where generic presentation models fail or under 
serve.

cdh
  

  
On Dec 2, 2009, at 1:27 PM, Nicolai Svendsen wrote:

 Hi,
 
 One thing I can say here, is that VoiceOver doesn't require it. It's 
 important, in my opinion, to make the distinction between a screen reader 
 that is practically dependent on them, and a screen reader for which it is 
 not required to run applications or even use. I don't even believe 
 AppleScript for VoiceOver was allowed before 10.6. I might be wrong, and if 
 so I've never used it to improve either applications or its performance.
 
 Regards,
 Nic
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 On Dec 2, 2009, at 7:01 PM, John W. Carty wrote:
 
 I've been following this list for a good while now and I appreciate all the 
 good insight I've gained concerning the mac os and voiceover.
  
 I'm moving ever closer toward purchasing a mac but it seems like all screen 
 readers the access has limits.
  
 Has anyone attempted to improve voiceover performance thru applescript?
  
 If so, is there a web site where scripts are shared?
  
 I'm a long time jaws and we user and i've written a lot of scripts over the 
 years and without extensive scripting niether jaws nor we would offer nearly 
 the level of performance available today.
  
 Thanx,
  
 John
  
 
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Re: applescript

[Yuma Antoine Decaux]

I had to jump in on this one.

I think the inclusion of voice over specific commands in the applescript 
library has been implemented not to releave the workload to Apple, but to allow 
solutions for fast accessing of data, productivity and to pair various 
applications to streamline all your daily outcome.And it also allows 
individuals to access areas and functionality which haven't been implemented by 
even third party applications which are compatible with voice over out of the 
box.

The inclusion of these scripts though have a drawback, in which the language 
itself is heavier than other programming languages, and even if bundled to an 
app, they are the slowest in all script languages.

Yet, there are a lot of advantages, when paired with other accessibility APIs, 
as well as APIs which come from coco libraries, allowing the user to interact, 
categorize and control all classes and elements of a given program, I mention 
skype here, which has one command, *send, from which a lot can be done, similar 
to the jawscript for controlling skype.

What apple has strived to do is to make it as similar to navigate into things 
on the mac os as a sighted person would. So it avoids creating a whole new 
approach into the process of using a computer, and people will have the same 
terminologies, whether sighted or not.

And this extends into the applescript vocabulary. They are powerful as in they 
create shortcuts from the simplest, which is to calculate something str8 onto 
your text edit window instead of going into a calculator, or assigning scripts 
to various trackpad shortcuts. 

I'm delving more into the scripts when time allows me, and i find that there 
are even graphical outcomes a blind user can express, through code. And this i 
use in a studio which works on heavy 3d graphics.

So in the end, i am glad apple has integrated voice over into the applescript 
library, but you didn't need it to start with, to create sets of instructions 
which can benefit your everday experience.

to take it from wordpress, code is poetry.

Best

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Re: Applescript Editor help

[Yuma Antoine Decaux]

Hi James,

You can go to the following for a full guide on applescripting

http://developer.apple.com/mac/library/documentation/AppleScript/Conceptual/AppleScriptLangGuide/introduction/ASLR_intro.html

If you want to dabble a bit on some scripting with a tutorial starting  
from the basics:

http://mac.appstorm.net/how-to/applescript/the-ultimate-beginners-guide-to-applescript/

Applescript editor is automatically installed on your system normally,  
it just changed places in the finder. . Go to your applications folder  
and go to the utility folder. There you will find the applescript  
editor. To access the dictionaries from there press command shift l.

Good hunting

best

Yuma

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Re: applescript idea

[william lomas]

or you can just do the voice switcher on the fly to go to your french  
voice, that's what I do

On 7 Sep 2009, at 23:58, Justin Harford wrote:


 That would be neat.

 J
 On Sep 7, 2009, at 2:35 PM, Yuma Antoine Decaux wrote:


 Hi everyone,

 I was just hacing a milkshake and thought of a possible script to  
 help
 polyglotts in this list?

 I believe this should be possible, bbut since i am not acquainted
 enough with applescript, please those of you who know some or are
 veterans, give me some pointers :)

 Basically, i always have the voice over menu open for switching
 languages, and though it's not that many manipulations away, i wish
 there is something more fluid and streamlined, sort of slick in its
 behavior.

 This could apply to safari, mail, and perhaps at a later date,
 documents.

 SO, if there are variables that can specify a language, either in an
 html body, it's address quote country suffixe? unquote or checking
 redundant words and common nouns in the subject line of a mail, the
 applescript would switch automatically to the given language.

 Now is this possible? getting handlers to pre-process document
 contents to see if it is in a given language could be done right?

 I have the applescript documentation, but since this list is about
 communicating, and i like to brainstorm before really engaging in any
 type of project :) i wanted your advice, opinion and comment.

 Thanks for reading, and best

 Yuma




 


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Re: applescript idea

[Koumanova Rostislava]

i love this one! wont mind to see it on the iphone as well.
rk

Il giorno 08/set/2009, alle ore 00.17, Anne Robertson ha scritto:


 Hello Yuma,

 To switch languages on the fly, hold down Control-Option-Command then
 use the left or right arrow until you reach Default voice (name),
 then use the down arrow to change the voice. If you don't move to
 another setting, the next time you press these modifier keys, you will
 be on the Default Voice setting and when you press down arrow, you'll
 be on the voice you were using previously.

 I do this all the time to switch between French and English.

 Cheers,

 Anne

 On Sep 7, 2009, at 11:35 PM, Yuma Antoine Decaux wrote:


 Hi everyone,

 I was just hacing a milkshake and thought of a possible script to  
 help
 polyglotts in this list?

 I believe this should be possible, bbut since i am not acquainted
 enough with applescript, please those of you who know some or are
 veterans, give me some pointers :)

 Basically, i always have the voice over menu open for switching
 languages, and though it's not that many manipulations away, i wish
 there is something more fluid and streamlined, sort of slick in its
 behavior.

 This could apply to safari, mail, and perhaps at a later date,
 documents.

 SO, if there are variables that can specify a language, either in an
 html body, it's address quote country suffixe? unquote or checking
 redundant words and common nouns in the subject line of a mail, the
 applescript would switch automatically to the given language.

 Now is this possible? getting handlers to pre-process document
 contents to see if it is in a given language could be done right?

 I have the applescript documentation, but since this list is about
 communicating, and i like to brainstorm before really engaging in any
 type of project :) i wanted your advice, opinion and comment.

 Thanks for reading, and best

 Yuma




 


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Re: applescript idea

[Anne Robertson]

Hello Yuma,

To switch languages on the fly, hold down Control-Option-Command then  
use the left or right arrow until you reach Default voice (name),  
then use the down arrow to change the voice. If you don't move to  
another setting, the next time you press these modifier keys, you will  
be on the Default Voice setting and when you press down arrow, you'll  
be on the voice you were using previously.

I do this all the time to switch between French and English.

Cheers,

Anne

On Sep 7, 2009, at 11:35 PM, Yuma Antoine Decaux wrote:


 Hi everyone,

 I was just hacing a milkshake and thought of a possible script to help
 polyglotts in this list?

 I believe this should be possible, bbut since i am not acquainted
 enough with applescript, please those of you who know some or are
 veterans, give me some pointers :)

 Basically, i always have the voice over menu open for switching
 languages, and though it's not that many manipulations away, i wish
 there is something more fluid and streamlined, sort of slick in its
 behavior.

 This could apply to safari, mail, and perhaps at a later date,
 documents.

 SO, if there are variables that can specify a language, either in an
 html body, it's address quote country suffixe? unquote or checking
 redundant words and common nouns in the subject line of a mail, the
 applescript would switch automatically to the given language.

 Now is this possible? getting handlers to pre-process document
 contents to see if it is in a given language could be done right?

 I have the applescript documentation, but since this list is about
 communicating, and i like to brainstorm before really engaging in any
 type of project :) i wanted your advice, opinion and comment.

 Thanks for reading, and best

 Yuma

 


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Re: applescript idea

[Jonathan Cohn]

I think if you did this, you would need to write it too its own  
function. Generally the events I have seen for AppleScript are not as  
widely  available as for example in jaws.

There are Folder Action scripts that can do special functions when a  
file is added to or removed from a folder. ( I was thinking of  
investigating these for automating some things with my downloads  
folder and my Victor Stream).

In terms of mail there is no read message event. You can certainly  
have a script that gets the selected message and looks at the text  
body  I would then expect you could tell Voice Over to change based on  
that. So that part should be fairly easy.

I I would start by opening the mail scrip dictionary.

You should be able to first
try
tell application mail
set theText to  the body of the seled
speek theText
end tell

If you can get that to work then try doing  a search of the body and  
get that to respond.
Then you can say something like
if isFrench
tell application Voice Over
  ...
end tell
  the
On Sep 7, 2009, at 5:35 PM, Yuma Antoine Decaux wrote:


 Hi everyone,

 I was just hacing a milkshake and thought of a possible script to help
 polyglotts in this list?

 I believe this should be possible, bbut since i am not acquainted
 enough with applescript, please those of you who know some or are
 veterans, give me some pointers :)

 Basically, i always have the voice over menu open for switching
 languages, and though it's not that many manipulations away, i wish
 there is something more fluid and streamlined, sort of slick in its
 behavior.

 This could apply to safari, mail, and perhaps at a later date,
 documents.

 SO, if there are variables that can specify a language, either in an
 html body, it's address quote country suffixe? unquote or checking
 redundant words and common nouns in the subject line of a mail, the
 applescript would switch automatically to the given language.

 Now is this possible? getting handlers to pre-process document
 contents to see if it is in a given language could be done right?

 I have the applescript documentation, but since this list is about
 communicating, and i like to brainstorm before really engaging in any
 type of project :) i wanted your advice, opinion and comment.

 Thanks for reading, and best

 Yuma

 


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Re: applescript idea

[Simon Cavendish]

Yuma, I think you have to have Snow Leopard for this combination to  
work.

Best wishes, Simon
On 7 Sep 2009, at 23:34, Yuma Antoine Decaux wrote:


 Hi Anne,

 I tried it and it only gives me rate, intonation, pitch and volume.
 control option command and left or right arrow, right?

 Hmm, i had my apple script editor up and took a shower to delve into
 this. Thought it would be a good idea for a first apple script :)

 Thanks though, if i can get it to work

 Best

 Yuma

 


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Re: applescript idea

[Justin Harford]

That would be neat.

J
On Sep 7, 2009, at 2:35 PM, Yuma Antoine Decaux wrote:


 Hi everyone,

 I was just hacing a milkshake and thought of a possible script to help
 polyglotts in this list?

 I believe this should be possible, bbut since i am not acquainted
 enough with applescript, please those of you who know some or are
 veterans, give me some pointers :)

 Basically, i always have the voice over menu open for switching
 languages, and though it's not that many manipulations away, i wish
 there is something more fluid and streamlined, sort of slick in its
 behavior.

 This could apply to safari, mail, and perhaps at a later date,
 documents.

 SO, if there are variables that can specify a language, either in an
 html body, it's address quote country suffixe? unquote or checking
 redundant words and common nouns in the subject line of a mail, the
 applescript would switch automatically to the given language.

 Now is this possible? getting handlers to pre-process document
 contents to see if it is in a given language could be done right?

 I have the applescript documentation, but since this list is about
 communicating, and i like to brainstorm before really engaging in any
 type of project :) i wanted your advice, opinion and comment.

 Thanks for reading, and best

 Yuma

 


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Re: applescript idea

[Yuma Antoine Decaux]

Hi Anne,

I tried it and it only gives me rate, intonation, pitch and volume.  
control option command and left or right arrow, right?

Hmm, i had my apple script editor up and took a shower to delve into  
this. Thought it would be a good idea for a first apple script :)

Thanks though, if i can get it to work

Best

Yuma

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Re: applescript idea

[Yuma Antoine Decaux]

Hi John,

Thanks for some insight on this :)

I've decided to start with something a bit simpler and work from there.

i want to start something like this:

variable=language
Language=voice type in voice over menu
variable=french
french=margaux infovox ivox hq

tell voice over
open tab voices

if current language=french,
open alex
else
open margaux infovox ivox hq
end tell

Now i'm looking in the syntax library, which is quite confusing for  
navigation for now, to figure where each of the commands would fit  
from the terms used in applescript.

Let's see where this goes :)

best

Yuma

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