Re: [MBZ] OT: PCLinuxOS2007
Luther wrote: BUTT, WRONG! I have used 3 different USR internal modems, and ALL 3 functioned correctly under Linux. Winmodems will function correctly, but not out of the box. Not all of them will. Some are just lousy paper weights. It all depends on the DSP chipset. Some are well supported with FOSS software, some require compiling proprietary drivers, others are hopeless - and since the pool of dialup modem users seems to be shrinking, I doubt there will ever be much further reverse engineering on those. Additional software is needed, any other modem will function plug'n'play I have had zero success with external USB modems. But all I could prove is that when plugged in they existed. No idea if either of them was broken. -- Philip ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] Ethanol/Why it works in Brazil/Stolen from OTC Journal
Why not grow the same algae as a food source to displace the food that is being turned into fuel now? Thanks, Tom Hargrave www.kegkits.com 256-656-1924 -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Fmiser Sent: Wednesday, November 19, 2008 11:50 PM To: Mercedes Discussion List Subject: Re: [MBZ] Ethanol/Why it works in Brazil/Stolen from OTC Journal Tom wrote: A lot of the corn stalks are used as feed stock. Convert corn stalks to ethanol and we have to feed our animals something else. Like I said earlier, the problem (and solution) aren't so simple. I sure like the idea of biodiesel from algae. Grow the algae on sanitary waste, landfills, etc. Then crush it for fuel. But all those folks with gasoline cars won't benefit. Just us smart ones. *grin* -- Philip ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com No virus found in this incoming message. Checked by AVG. Version: 7.5.549 / Virus Database: 270.9.7/1798 - Release Date: 11/18/2008 8:59 PM No virus found in this outgoing message. Checked by AVG. Version: 7.5.549 / Virus Database: 270.9.7/1798 - Release Date: 11/18/2008 8:59 PM ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] Ethanol
Methanol is a known toxin. Gasoline is worse. Of course methanol is poisonous, but we're already familiar with fuels that one should not bathe in or drink... Methanol is also called wood alcohol, and can be made out of nearly anything. -- Jim ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] my rare 300D 4 speed euro
speaking of which, I might be getting rid of that 380SE with the 5.0 euro in it also. In fact, I might just get rid of all my crap except the cars I drive. E M wrote: I like how you think! :-) Ed 300E 2008/11/19 OK Don [EMAIL PROTECTED] What about one of those 5 liter euro V8s? On Wed, Nov 19, 2008 at 4:11 PM, E M [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Never drop a slow engine in where a faster one will fit! ;-) Ed 300E 2008/11/19 Kaleb C. Striplin [EMAIL PROTECTED] If I dont sell it, Im starting to think very hard about just dropping a turbo engine in it instead of staying non turbo. -- OK Don, KD5NRO Norman, OK There are only three sports: bullfighting, motor racing, and mountaineering; all the rest are merely games. - Ernest Hemingway '90 300D (Rattled), '92 300D (Saber), ''97 Ply Grand Voyager (Vincent van-go) ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com Internal Virus Database is out of date. Checked by AVG - http://www.avg.com Version: 8.0.175 / Virus Database: 270.9.0/1779 - Release Date: 11/10/2008 7:53 AM -- Kaleb C. Striplin/Claremore, OK 92 300SD, 92 300E 4Matic, 91 300D, 91 300E, 89 560SEL, 87 300SDL x2, 85 380SE 5.0 Euro, 85 190D, 84 190D x2, 84 300D euro manny, 81 240D, 80 240D, 76 240D, 76 300D, 72 250C, 69 250, 66 220SEb http://www.okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] my rare 300D 4 speed euro
you have not been paying attention? Wonko the Sane wrote: Why am I just now hearing about this? On Wed, Nov 19, 2008 at 4:08 PM, Kaleb C. Striplin [EMAIL PROTECTED]wrote: If I dont sell it, Im starting to think very hard about just dropping a turbo engine in it instead of staying non turbo. -- Kaleb C. Striplin/Claremore, OK 92 300SD, 92 300E 4Matic, 91 300D, 91 300E, 89 560SEL, 87 300SDL x2, 85 380SE 5.0 Euro, 85 190D, 84 190D x2, 84 300D euro manny, 81 240D, 80 240D, 76 240D, 76 300D, 72 250C, 69 250, 66 220SEb http://www.okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com Internal Virus Database is out of date. Checked by AVG - http://www.avg.com Version: 8.0.175 / Virus Database: 270.9.0/1779 - Release Date: 11/10/2008 7:53 AM -- Kaleb C. Striplin/Claremore, OK 92 300SD, 92 300E 4Matic, 91 300D, 91 300E, 89 560SEL, 87 300SDL x2, 85 380SE 5.0 Euro, 85 190D, 84 190D x2, 84 300D euro manny, 81 240D, 80 240D, 76 240D, 76 300D, 72 250C, 69 250, 66 220SEb http://www.okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] OT, windows version
Yea, I bought a sub a while back but just now getting around to using it. I assume the VL (volume license) versions can be installed on however many computers I want, like the version of XP I currently have? OK Don wrote: OK - the new PC, should support 64 bit. Go to the features chart on M$FT.COM and decide which features you want, then download the 64 bit version of that if you're going to double the RAM, or more. You're on Technet? Download them all - be like Wonko and load a different one every week. On Wed, Nov 19, 2008 at 8:01 PM, Kaleb C. Striplin [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I have 2 gig but want to bump it up. Bascially, I have this crappy vista home version, adn am trying to decide if I need the buisness version, ultimate verison, 32 bit or 64 bit Internal Virus Database is out of date. Checked by AVG - http://www.avg.com Version: 8.0.175 / Virus Database: 270.9.0/1779 - Release Date: 11/10/2008 7:53 AM -- Kaleb C. Striplin/Claremore, OK 92 300SD, 92 300E 4Matic, 91 300D, 91 300E, 89 560SEL, 87 300SDL x2, 85 380SE 5.0 Euro, 85 190D, 84 190D x2, 84 300D euro manny, 81 240D, 80 240D, 76 240D, 76 300D, 72 250C, 69 250, 66 220SEb http://www.okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] OT: PCLinuxOS2007
As posted I listed the modems I have. I really do not know all that much about PCFlinuxOS, though I know that it seemed to work rather well. Douglas. BUTT, WRONG! I have used 3 different USR internal modems, and ALL 3 functioned correctly under Linux. Winmodems will function correctly, but not out of the box. Additional software is needed, any other modem will function plug'n'play Luther Douglas wrote: Wonko I appreciate that. Though it seems that the Modems for Linux need to be Fully External. As I have read up on this of the last week or so it seems that the internal modems just do not work. Yes you can go to that place Linmodem.org and buy a supposed driver. Though I would rather use a old 56 K external. Yes I know that I will have to buy a cable but that is ok. I figure if my wife wants this for her work friend she must be pretty nice to her, and whats a few bucks. Douglas.. - Original Message - From: Wonko the Sane [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: Mercedes Discussion List mercedes@okiebenz.com Sent: Wednesday, November 19, 2008 5:36 PM Subject: Re: [MBZ] OT: PCLinuxOS2007 Let me know if Gary's doesn't work. I have two or three dozen modem cards laying around in the garage (extremely organized, of course). All are 56K I think. On Wed, Nov 19, 2008 at 7:27 PM, Douglas [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: My address is Douglas Sherman 850 Yeoman Ct Vacaville, CA 95687 Let me know the costs and I will send you a check.. Thanks.. Douglas - Original Message - From: Gary Hurst [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: Mercedes Discussion List mercedes@okiebenz.com Sent: Wednesday, November 19, 2008 11:39 AM Subject: Re: [MBZ] OT: PCLinuxOS2007 i find modem. where i should send it? On Mon, Nov 17, 2008 at 3:25 PM, Douglas [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Yes I know that there is a Linux list..:) though I want to plead to as many as possible here. Have a SITUATION. I have installed PcLinuxOS on to a system. Now this is a co-worker of my wifes on a gateway puter, Old she cannot find her recovery disc. She have NO money so I suggested that I install PcLinuxOS 2007 so that she can use the computer. This I have done on a donated 13 gig hard drive. Oh and yeah I replaced the non-working cd rom. Yeah :) I have it.. so why not. Ok so she only wants the system to be able to to type and go online for the kids homework. I guess you can get homework assingments online now.? Anyhow though I have many pci modems here. None seem to work. As I have found out not many do. here is a list of what I have. PCTEL pct789T-C1 Conexant RH56D-pci 3Com AD1806JS If you you have drivers that work with this that'd be great! I think the three com is the nicest. or best bet.. Some but a few. NOW I know that its recommended on linux for external modems. So if there is someone with a old serial external modem that can help out with the cause.. I would appreciate it. Thanks.. for your support.. Douglas.. ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] OT: PCLinuxOS2007
I used to be that way also, but got rid of all my old computer crap. Wonko the Sane wrote: I have a couple dozen. (I am to old computers as Kleb is to crashed Benz vehicles.) Send your address off-list. Don On Wed, Nov 19, 2008 at 8:17 PM, Allan Streib [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Wonko the Sane [EMAIL PROTECTED] said: Let me know if Gary's doesn't work. I have two or three dozen modem cards laying around in the garage (extremely organized, of course). All are 56K I think. Do you have any network cards you'd sell for cheap? I have an old Gateway I'd like to use for some experimental work but it has no on-board ethernet. Allan ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com Internal Virus Database is out of date. Checked by AVG - http://www.avg.com Version: 8.0.175 / Virus Database: 270.9.0/1779 - Release Date: 11/10/2008 7:53 AM -- Kaleb C. Striplin/Claremore, OK 92 300SD, 92 300E 4Matic, 91 300D, 91 300E, 89 560SEL, 87 300SDL x2, 85 380SE 5.0 Euro, 85 190D, 84 190D x2, 84 300D euro manny, 81 240D, 80 240D, 76 240D, 76 300D, 72 250C, 69 250, 66 220SEb http://www.okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] OT, windows version
On Thu, 20 Nov 2008 08:06:47 -0600, Kaleb C. Striplin [EMAIL PROTECTED] said: Yea, I bought a sub a while back but just now getting around to using it. I assume the VL (volume license) versions can be installed on however many computers I want, like the version of XP I currently have? Last time I had a MSDN subscription, there were limits on the number of simultaneous installs, particularly on the server products (Windows Server, Exchange Server, etc.). Not sure about any workstation limits. None of it was enforced at the time, it was honor-system. But I'm not sure that's still the case. Allan ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] Ethanol
Methanol vapors are even poisonous, gasoline vapors are not. Also, you could drink gasoline with no harmful effects providing you don't get any in your longs. Drink methanol see what happens. Thanks, Tom Hargrave www.kegkits.com 256-656-1924 -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Jim Cathey Sent: Thursday, November 20, 2008 7:59 AM To: Mercedes Discussion List Subject: Re: [MBZ] Ethanol Methanol is a known toxin. Gasoline is worse. Of course methanol is poisonous, but we're already familiar with fuels that one should not bathe in or drink... Methanol is also called wood alcohol, and can be made out of nearly anything. -- Jim ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com No virus found in this incoming message. Checked by AVG. Version: 7.5.549 / Virus Database: 270.9.7/1798 - Release Date: 11/18/2008 8:59 PM No virus found in this outgoing message. Checked by AVG. Version: 7.5.549 / Virus Database: 270.9.7/1798 - Release Date: 11/18/2008 8:59 PM ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] Ethanol
Gasoline is worse. Actually, no. There is inconclusive evidence that it is carcinogenic. It is, but only in the rats they tested it on. Something about a protein binding and building up in the liver and killing the test animals. That does not happen in humans - we don't have that protein. You can use gasoline/kerosene/diesel to remove grease from your hands every day. Do that with methanol and you will end up dead. -Dave Walton On Thu, Nov 20, 2008 at 8:59 AM, Jim Cathey [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Methanol is a known toxin. Gasoline is worse. Of course methanol is poisonous, but we're already familiar with fuels that one should not bathe in or drink... Methanol is also called wood alcohol, and can be made out of nearly anything. -- Jim ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] OT Heat pump freezing up
I'm using a newer Mitsubishi heat pump/AC. It supplements about 75% of my heat load. I only run it in 20°+ ambient temps as I was told that at today's fuel prices the cost rotation is at 17°. I love it. My fuel oil usage last year dropped about 50%, about 10% increase in electric bill. If I was building (never will too old for that!) I would look very hard at a geo thermal system Pete -- Original message -- From: Jim Cathey [EMAIL PROTECTED] There's a company up here designing some that can work down to -40F. I'm considering one of the type that circulates coolant through a deep hole. I was told recently that the air-exchanger heat pump can run down to about 20F, and uses about 50% of the energy of electric heat. The newer ground-exchanger pumps will run down to whatever you get in your area, and use about 33% of the energy of electric heat. That's what I'd want, of course. We have acreage, so we perhaps wouldn't have to go deep, cutting the cost of installation. -- Jim ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] my rare 300D 4 speed euro
I decided several years ago, I wanted to keep things simple. I had ideas of a little collection if space allowed, but a hobby which is fun can quickly start to feel like work. Now, I've limited myself to one fun car, and daily driver, and allowed room for a bike, if I want. I've found it much more enjoyable, and allows me to spend my free time keeping just a couple of things in nice shape. I know you're different though, as you're cars are a business too, not just a hobby. Ed 300E 2008/11/20 Kaleb C. Striplin [EMAIL PROTECTED] speaking of which, I might be getting rid of that 380SE with the 5.0 euro in it also. In fact, I might just get rid of all my crap except the cars I drive. E M wrote: I like how you think! :-) Ed 300E 2008/11/19 OK Don [EMAIL PROTECTED] What about one of those 5 liter euro V8s? On Wed, Nov 19, 2008 at 4:11 PM, E M [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Never drop a slow engine in where a faster one will fit! ;-) Ed 300E 2008/11/19 Kaleb C. Striplin [EMAIL PROTECTED] If I dont sell it, Im starting to think very hard about just dropping a turbo engine in it instead of staying non turbo. -- OK Don, KD5NRO Norman, OK There are only three sports: bullfighting, motor racing, and mountaineering; all the rest are merely games. - Ernest Hemingway '90 300D (Rattled), '92 300D (Saber), ''97 Ply Grand Voyager (Vincent van-go) ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com Internal Virus Database is out of date. Checked by AVG - http://www.avg.com Version: 8.0.175 / Virus Database: 270.9.0/1779 - Release Date: 11/10/2008 7:53 AM -- Kaleb C. Striplin/Claremore, OK 92 300SD, 92 300E 4Matic, 91 300D, 91 300E, 89 560SEL, 87 300SDL x2, 85 380SE 5.0 Euro, 85 190D, 84 190D x2, 84 300D euro manny, 81 240D, 80 240D, 76 240D, 76 300D, 72 250C, 69 250, 66 220SEb http://www.okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] OT Heat pump freezing up
So every day the tide comes in and goes out the marsh 2 times, I should dig a hole and let it fill up with new warm water and run a loop through that! I would probably run afoul of 37 EPA regs and wetland regs and who knows what else, but I would be saving energy and using renewable energy! Might even get a redfish or two in there, free food! A greenie conundrum! --R [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I'm using a newer Mitsubishi heat pump/AC. It supplements about 75% of my heat load. I only run it in 20°+ ambient temps as I was told that at today's fuel prices the cost rotation is at 17°. I love it. My fuel oil usage last year dropped about 50%, about 10% increase in electric bill. If I was building (never will too old for that!) I would look very hard at a geo thermal system Pete -- Original message -- From: Jim Cathey [EMAIL PROTECTED] There's a company up here designing some that can work down to -40F. I'm considering one of the type that circulates coolant through a deep hole. I was told recently that the air-exchanger heat pump can run down to about 20F, and uses about 50% of the energy of electric heat. The newer ground-exchanger pumps will run down to whatever you get in your area, and use about 33% of the energy of electric heat. That's what I'd want, of course. We have acreage, so we perhaps wouldn't have to go deep, cutting the cost of installation. -- Jim ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] Ethanol
You USED to be able to wash your hands with gasoline/kerosene/diesel with no apparent harm, but gasoline had lead in it. The lead police claim now that just looking at lead will kill you. They'd have a hissy fit about washing hands and parts in leaded gasoline. (even though we all did it.) Later unleaded gas may contain MTBE, a methanol derivative. That is even worse. MTBE seems to be all the bad qualities of methanol in a concentrate. I have used ethanol containing gas (E10) for 30 some years. No bad effects, but it has the positive effect of dispersing water in fuel and keeping the fuel system clean. At 08:12 AM 11/20/2008, you wrote: Gasoline is worse. Actually, no. There is inconclusive evidence that it is carcinogenic. It is, but only in the rats they tested it on. Something about a protein binding and building up in the liver and killing the test animals. That does not happen in humans - we don't have that protein. You can use gasoline/kerosene/diesel to remove grease from your hands every day. Do that with methanol and you will end up dead. -Dave Walton On Thu, Nov 20, 2008 at 8:59 AM, Jim Cathey [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Methanol is a known toxin. Gasoline is worse. Of course methanol is poisonous, but we're already familiar with fuels that one should not bathe in or drink... Methanol is also called wood alcohol, and can be made out of nearly anything. -- Jim ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com Loren Faeth ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] beets
hahaha On Wed, Nov 19, 2008 at 7:27 PM, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: ...Columbia is the big user of Sugar Beets to become energy independant --.. The University? RLE ** One site has it all. Your email accounts, your social networks, and the things you love. Try the new AOL.com today!( http://pr.atwola.com/promoclk/10075x1212962939x1200825291/aol?redir=http://www.aol.com/?optin=new-dp %26icid=aolcom40vanity%26ncid=emlcntaolcom0001) ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] Classy
It's in remarkable condition and nicely equipped, but do you really want to sort out those issues for a poky non-turbo wagon when so many nice turbodiesel TDs are on the market? I love the wacky spelling errors and typo(e)s: I have driven it amny times to Atlanta and back which is about 165 miles a trip. Tow windows work and two do not. Will be needing front breaks, [snip] On Wed, Nov 19, 2008 at 5:53 PM, E M [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: That has to be one of my all time fave Mercedes!! When I was a kid, I had a pic of one with Ronial rims. I thought if you had one of those, and a porsche 911 for fun, you couldn't do much better. Ed 300E 2008/11/19 Kaleb C. Striplin [EMAIL PROTECTED] That why since I am on a buying freeze, I do not watch ebay. That would be like a drunk going into a liquor store. Curt Raymond wrote: http://cgi.ebay.com/ebaymotors/1980-Mercedes-Benz-300-TD_W0QQitemZ140282094497QQihZ004QQcategoryZ6330QQssPageNameZWDVWQQrdZ1QQcmdZViewItem Why do I torture myself and look at eBay? Anyway check out the pic with the glovebox. Wooden trim fell off? A wood screw will put it back... -Curt ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com Internal Virus Database is out of date. Checked by AVG - http://www.avg.com Version: 8.0.175 / Virus Database: 270.9.0/1779 - Release Date: 11/10/2008 7:53 AM -- Kaleb C. Striplin/Claremore, OK 92 300SD, 92 300E 4Matic, 91 300D, 91 300E, 89 560SEL, 87 300SDL x2, 85 380SE 5.0 Euro, 85 190D, 84 190D x2, 84 300D euro manny, 81 240D, 80 240D, 76 240D, 76 300D, 72 250C, 69 250, 66 220SEb http://www.okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] I don't understand
Curt, the missing radio is a ruse to make you think AHA all it needs is a radio and the seller is too stupid to install one! Therefore, I can steal this car for way less than it's worth. NOT. The missing radio is what I call a misdirection play to divert your attention from asking the tough questions that might actually reveal some inconvenient truths about the vehicle. On Wed, Nov 19, 2008 at 5:05 PM, Curt Raymond [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: http://cgi.ebay.com/ebaymotors/DIESEL-MERCEDEZ-300SD-NICE-AND-CLEAN-VINTAGE-COLLECTOR_W0QQitemZ250326918825QQihZ015QQcategoryZ6330QQssPageNameZWDVWQQrdZ1QQcmdZViewItem Why does anybody try to sell a car with no radio and just a gaping hole where the radio should be? Gawd at least put a plate over it... A dealer should really put some cheapo crapbox in it... I love the exterior of this car. Hate the pad over the dash, hate the dealer's sticker on the rear, hate that it has no radio, hate that it isn't in my driveway... -Curt ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] OT: your government at its absolute finest
And you should be! ; Good luck holding on to it, though. ; Wilton - Original Message - From: Luther [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: Mercedes Discussion List mercedes@okiebenz.com Sent: Thursday, November 20, 2008 12:52 AM Subject: Re: [MBZ] OT: your government at its absolute finest And I'm damn proud of it! :) Luther Wilton Strickland wrote: WOW! You really ARE a whippersnapper! Wilton ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] OT: Fed Reserve News
I know people have differing political viewpoints, that is all well and good, but I don't see how anyone could think this woman should be anywhere near anything important to peoples' lives given her past performance (which is likely indicative of future performance). I also wonder how I could get me some of that payoff for that kind of performance. I guess I know the answer to that, it is quite distasteful. --R Craig McCluskey wrote: On Wed, 19 Nov 2008 13:54:16 -0500 Rich Thomas [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Bwawney Fwank (whose boyfwiend got dumped over at Fannie -- no jokes please-- in a job he had no qualifications for, making over 6figs) says it was lack of regulation, nothing to do with him or his buds over there encouraging and dealing with bad loans to people who couldn't afford them. Makes Enron guys look like a bunch of pikers. BTW did you notice that Jamie Gorelick (of 9/11 wall fame) http://www.americanthinker.com/2008/09/mistress_of_disaster_jamie_gor.html got dumped over at Fannie after her gummint service, made several millions in the time a lot of questionable stuff (false reporting) was going on then left, is now being considered for a role in BHO's admin? And that Rahm Emmanuel, new BHO CoS, spent some time after his previous Clinton gummint service before getting elected, at an investment bank and made some decent ching (care to guess the name of that bank?). And that a lot of the people nominally in charge of Fannie were Clintonistas (not that that makes a lot of difference, they all seem to be crooks)? Change You Can Believe In! WOOO WOOO!!! They are all ridin dirty!!! ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] OT: Fed Reserve News
Rich Thomas [EMAIL PROTECTED] said: I know people have differing political viewpoints, that is all well and good, but I don't see how anyone could think this woman should be anywhere near anything important to peoples' lives given her past performance (which is likely indicative of future performance). The whole administration is shaping up to be a bunch of Clinton-era retreads. Was this the change we expected? If they wanted this, why did the Democrats reject Hillary in their primaries? Allan ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
[MBZ] fixing cars in the snow.
My adventure of changing a bulb in the snow. Well, the 300E needed a new bulb in the front yellow turn signal. No problem. I have a peek in and notice some mice must have moved in and chewed on the wires!!! Also setting up house with a stash of maple keys. It was all clean about a week ago. Those little guys move fast!! Ok, so I'll try some shrink material over the wires. I go to pop the light assemble out, press on the tab, and snap! Oops, guess I should have pressed the other way. Ok, assemble now falls out and dangles by the wire. I take it indoors, get it all cleaned up and ready to see if I can glue the tang back on. If not, anyone have a spare set of turn singles kicking around? lol So I'm off to the parts store now, see what I can find to do a fixer upper. I also have another 560 lined up to look at. I haven't had much look finding a clean 420 or 560, so I'm thinking to look for some newer stuff, either a E 320 similar to my W124 style, or even the next version, but I hear they rust easy?? Anyway, off to tinker. Ed 300E ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] OT: Fed Reserve News
Well the reason for this is a first-order consequence of electing a rookie who has absolutely no experience related to the job he wants, no deep ties to the establishment, no relationships built up over the years. So he looks around, sees who might actually know something about how stuff works, finds a bunch of retreads who have been hanging around for a few years Hoping for Change, and he grabs them up. Pretty soon they start telling him this and that, what does he know, so that is what he does. I suppose they'll help him keep his head above water for a coupla years until he figures stuff out on his own, if he is not too insulated from it all by this crowd or they don't get him in too deep. He'll be struggling with them as well as whatever issues arise, kinda hard on a guy trying to make Change. Bush did it too, got people from his daddy's admin, after a few years I think he sorted through some of them but they swayed him a lot. [Note: None of this expresses any subjective political partisanship, just reality] --R Allan Streib wrote: Rich Thomas [EMAIL PROTECTED] said: I know people have differing political viewpoints, that is all well and good, but I don't see how anyone could think this woman should be anywhere near anything important to peoples' lives given her past performance (which is likely indicative of future performance). The whole administration is shaping up to be a bunch of Clinton-era retreads. Was this the change we expected? If they wanted this, why did the Democrats reject Hillary in their primaries? Allan ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] my rare 300D 4 speed euro
Do it, I'd be interested to hear your impression of the driveablity... -Curt Date: Wed, 19 Nov 2008 16:08:03 -0600 From: Kaleb C. Striplin [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: [MBZ] my rare 300D 4 speed euro To: mercedes Mailing List mercedes@okiebenz.com Message-ID: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed If I dont sell it, Im starting to think very hard about just dropping a turbo engine in it instead of staying non turbo. -- Kaleb C. Striplin/Claremore, OK 92 300SD, 92 300E 4Matic, 91 300D, 91 300E, 89 560SEL, 87 300SDL x2, 85 380SE 5.0 Euro, 85 190D, 84 190D x2, 84 300D euro manny, 81 240D, 80 240D, 76 240D, 76 300D, 72 250C, 69 250, 66 220SEb http://www.okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] OT Heat pump freezing up
15F here two mornings in a row. Quite a snap from last Saturday when it was 70F... We'll see teens regularly until April or so now. I have oil heat, electric would bankrupt me at our current electric rates. -Curt --- On Wed, 11/19/08, Jim Cathey [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: From: Jim Cathey [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: [MBZ] OT Heat pump freezing up To: [EMAIL PROTECTED], Mercedes Discussion List mercedes@okiebenz.com Date: Wednesday, November 19, 2008, 8:58 PM There's a company up here designing some that can work down to -40F. I'm considering one of the type that circulates coolant through a deep hole. I was told recently that the air-exchanger heat pump can run down to about 20F, and uses about 50% of the energy of electric heat. The newer ground-exchanger pumps will run down to whatever you get in your area, and use about 33% of the energy of electric heat. That's what I'd want, of course. We have acreage, so we perhaps wouldn't have to go deep, cutting the cost of installation. -- Jim ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] Ethanol/Why it works in Brazil/Stolen from OTC Journal
You know that the media is lying to you about the global food shortage right? MANY farms in northern Maine are lying fallow right now, they'll grow cow corn or sugar beets just fine if theres sufficient market for the stuff, there isn't thus the farms aren't being used. When those farms are at even 50% production (I have 15 acres available for rent if we rent 6 I'd venture to call that 50%) then I'll start being concerned about global food shortage. Global food shortage really means Price of food has risen to cover the cost of production... -Curt Date: Wed, 19 Nov 2008 18:08:14 -0600 From: Tom Hargrave [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: [MBZ] Ethanol/Why it works in Brazil/Stolen from OTC Journal To: 'Mercedes Discussion List' mercedes@okiebenz.com Message-ID: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Content-Type: text/plain; charset=windows-1250 Larry, So, you are telling us that sugar beets grow in soil that no food crop will grow on? Maybe they grow them on rocks? I don't think so - every acre used to grow sugar beets could be used to grow food and this represents a loss of food stocks. Matter of fact, we grow sugar beets here in the US as a food product - sugar! Sorry to disappoint you but you are being fed a load of BS. On the flip side, both cane beets produce more ethanol per acre than corn but only because the entire corn stalk ear can't be converted. We convert only the corn kernels which comprise a small percentage of the entire corn plant. Some extremely intelligent researchers in this country have figured out how to convert the rest through the use of the right enzymes process but the process is not economical yet. Once they figure it out, we can eat the corn convert the corn stalks to ethanol - the best of both worlds! Thanks, Tom Hargrave www.kegkits.com 256-656-1924 ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] OT: Fed Reserve News
Allan Streib wrote: The whole administration is shaping up to be a bunch of Clinton-era retreads. Was this the change we expected? If they wanted this, why did the Democrats reject Hillary in their primaries? Because they thought she'd do more good as Secretary of State? How about Daschle for Health and Human Services? Running under Change you can Believe In and resurrecting the Carter and Clinton administrations is almost as funny as Carl Levin running for his umpteenth reelection as a candidate for change. As if another six years of Carl on the Senate Banking Committee will be much different from the last 18 years of Carl on the Senate Banking Committee. Mitch. ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] OT, windows version
I don't know a whole lot about it but I'm given to understand in Vista 64 your apps can run 32bit device drivers in a 64 bit app or the opposite a 32 bit app with 64 bit device drivers and even (I think) a 32bit app with 32 bit drivers although they'll be slower. The big advantage in 64bit is the ability to have more than 3GB of RAM. If you've got less than 4GB of RAM there is not much advantage. XP 64 was never finished and is basically worthless. -Curt Date: Wed, 19 Nov 2008 19:58:48 -0600 From: OK Don [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: [MBZ] OT, windows version To: Mercedes Discussion List mercedes@okiebenz.com Message-ID: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 First, you need a 64 bit CPU. Second - drivers are now available in 64 bit Vista for a lot of hardware, but I wouldn't bet on XP. I've only run across one 32 bit program that wouldn't run in 64 bit Vista, and it was some shareware program. However, a 64 bit OS in a PC or laptop won't get you much unless you have 4 or more GB of RAM - -- OK Don, KD5NRO Norman, OK There are only three sports: bullfighting, motor racing, and mountaineering; all the rest are merely games. - Ernest Hemingway '90 300D (Rattled), '92 300D (Saber), ''97 Ply Grand Voyager (Vincent van-go) ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] Ethanol/Why it works in Brazil/Stolen from OTC Journal
Aren't you getting paid NOT to grow stuff? That's how you make money as a farmer! --R Curt Raymond wrote: You know that the media is lying to you about the global food shortage right? MANY farms in northern Maine are lying fallow right now, they'll grow cow corn or sugar beets just fine if theres sufficient market for the stuff, there isn't thus the farms aren't being used. When those farms are at even 50% production (I have 15 acres available for rent if we rent 6 I'd venture to call that 50%) then I'll start being concerned about global food shortage. Global food shortage really means Price of food has risen to cover the cost of production... -Curt Date: Wed, 19 Nov 2008 18:08:14 -0600 From: Tom Hargrave [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: [MBZ] Ethanol/Why it works in Brazil/Stolen from OTC Journal To: 'Mercedes Discussion List' mercedes@okiebenz.com Message-ID: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Content-Type: text/plain;charset=windows-1250 Larry, So, you are telling us that sugar beets grow in soil that no food crop will grow on? Maybe they grow them on rocks? I don't think so - every acre used to grow sugar beets could be used to grow food and this represents a loss of food stocks. Matter of fact, we grow sugar beets here in the US as a food product - sugar! Sorry to disappoint you but you are being fed a load of BS. On the flip side, both cane beets produce more ethanol per acre than corn but only because the entire corn stalk ear can't be converted. We convert only the corn kernels which comprise a small percentage of the entire corn plant. Some extremely intelligent researchers in this country have figured out how to convert the rest through the use of the right enzymes process but the process is not economical yet. Once they figure it out, we can eat the corn convert the corn stalks to ethanol - the best of both worlds! Thanks, Tom Hargrave www.kegkits.com 256-656-1924 ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
[MBZ] 97 E320
Cannot recall. Did anyone have an answer to my earlier question about the climate control panel failing to light up in a 97 E320? Are there bulbs of some sort inside that part of the panel and how does one get to them?? Randy ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
[MBZ] OT computer software question
I have been using Outlook 2000 as part of the Office set of programs for email as well as for a calendar to book appointments etc. I am trying to move away from Microsoft and have been testing Open Office which seems fine. However, I need a calendar setup like Outlook that is not included in Open Office. Anyone know of a similar program out there whether it be freeware, shareware or buy it now, that they are happy with? Randy ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] OT computer software question
You could have a look at Sunbird http://www.mozilla.org/projects/calendar/sunbird Not an endorsement, I don't use a calendaring app as I've found nothing that beats a paper appointment book, but have a look Allan On Thu, 20 Nov 2008 11:12:49 -0600, R A Bennell [EMAIL PROTECTED] said: I have been using Outlook 2000 as part of the Office set of programs for email as well as for a calendar to book appointments etc. I am trying to move away from Microsoft and have been testing Open Office which seems fine. However, I need a calendar setup like Outlook that is not included in Open Office. Anyone know of a similar program out there whether it be freeware, shareware or buy it now, that they are happy with? Randy ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] OT: PCLinuxOS2007
mine is a swell old us robotics 33.6 that cama gave me a decade or so ago, probably when i complained about what crap winmodems are. i switched over to that us robotics and never a connection problem again. On Wed, Nov 19, 2008 at 9:56 PM, Fmiser [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Douglas wrote: Wonko I appreciate that. Though it seems that the Modems for Linux need to be Fully External. No. It just that the easiest modems for Linux are controller based. Some internals are. Most are not. All external _serial_ modems are controlled based. Not all of the USB externals are, so beware. As I have read up on this of the last week or so it seems that the internal modems just do not work. Yes you can go to that place Linmodem.org and buy a supposed driver. Though I would rather use a old 56 K external. Yes I know that I will have to buy a cable but that is ok. The linmodem drives work - if you happen to have a suitable modem chipset. I have successfully installed one or two. If the modem retailed for less than $30 it is almost guaranteed to be a win modem and the chance of success goes way down. If it happens to be built around a good chipset, your fine. But there doesn't seem to be much development in the modem field now I just bought a backup serial external from Amazon for about $30. -- Philip ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] Ethanol/Why it works in Brazil/Stolen from OTC Journal
Hmm, looked into one of the programs. You basically sign away your ability to choose what you want to do with your land... I'm planting trees, I call it my retirement fund. Still keeping the ~15 acres available for regular farming or rather I'm gonna plant those last. We've got 87 acres total. -Curt --- On Thu, 11/20/08, Rich Thomas [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: From: Rich Thomas [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: [MBZ] Ethanol/Why it works in Brazil/Stolen from OTC Journal To: [EMAIL PROTECTED], Mercedes Discussion List mercedes@okiebenz.com Date: Thursday, November 20, 2008, 12:03 PM Aren't you getting paid NOT to grow stuff? That's how you make money as a farmer! --R Curt Raymond wrote: You know that the media is lying to you about the global food shortage right? MANY farms in northern Maine are lying fallow right now, they'll grow cow corn or sugar beets just fine if theres sufficient market for the stuff, there isn't thus the farms aren't being used. When those farms are at even 50% production (I have 15 acres available for rent if we rent 6 I'd venture to call that 50%) then I'll start being concerned about global food shortage. Global food shortage really means Price of food has risen to cover the cost of production... -Curt Date: Wed, 19 Nov 2008 18:08:14 -0600 From: Tom Hargrave [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: [MBZ] Ethanol/Why it works in Brazil/Stolen from OTC Journal To: 'Mercedes Discussion List' mercedes@okiebenz.com Message-ID: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Content-Type: text/plain;charset=windows-1250 Larry, So, you are telling us that sugar beets grow in soil that no food crop will grow on? Maybe they grow them on rocks? I don't think so - every acre used to grow sugar beets could be used to grow food and this represents a loss of food stocks. Matter of fact, we grow sugar beets here in the US as a food product - sugar! Sorry to disappoint you but you are being fed a load of BS. On the flip side, both cane beets produce more ethanol per acre than corn but only because the entire corn stalk ear can't be converted. We convert only the corn kernels which comprise a small percentage of the entire corn plant. Some extremely intelligent researchers in this country have figured out how to convert the rest through the use of the right enzymes process but the process is not economical yet. Once they figure it out, we can eat the corn convert the corn stalks to ethanol - the best of both worlds! Thanks, Tom Hargrave www.kegkits.com 256-656-1924 ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] OT Heat pump freezing up
I'm not sure what we'll be doing, I need to look into it, I'm not sure we have enough yard for a ditch, maybe a little of each... I wonder, if your frost line is 6', how much of a 6' pond would freeze? -Curt Date: Thu, 20 Nov 2008 00:25:07 -0600 From: harry watkins [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: [MBZ] OT Heat pump freezing up To: Mercedes Discussion List mercedes@okiebenz.com Message-ID: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Content-Type: text/plain; format=flowed; charset=iso-8859-1; reply-type=response I have a geo unit. Due to a small lot on a golf course, I had to go straight down. Three wells, 30 feet apart, 220 feet down each, 3/4 inch looped tube in each well ties into a manifold and is pumped to the compressor with a small pump, smaller than a soft ball. Temperature of the alcohol water mix was 60 degrees F, 12 years ago and remains that now. Mine cost three times that of an air unit, but like Jim said, if you have room to install the tubes in a horizontal ditch, its much cheaper. Having a six foot deep pond nearby is even cheaper. Harry There's a company up here designing some that can work down to -40F. I'm considering one of the type that circulates coolant through a deep hole. I was told recently that the air-exchanger heat pump can run down to about 20F, and uses about 50% of the energy of electric heat. The newer ground-exchanger pumps will run down to whatever you get in your area, and use about 33% of the energy of electric heat. That's what I'd want, of course. We have acreage, so we perhaps wouldn't have to go deep, cutting the cost of installation. -- Jim ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] my rare 300D 4 speed euro
I'll believe that when I see it... Date: Thu, 20 Nov 2008 08:06:27 -0600 From: Kaleb C. Striplin [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: [MBZ] my rare 300D 4 speed euro To: Mercedes Discussion List mercedes@okiebenz.com Message-ID: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed speaking of which, I might be getting rid of that 380SE with the 5.0 euro in it also. In fact, I might just get rid of all my crap except the cars I drive. ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] OT Heat pump freezing up
Who in the continental U.S.A. has a 72 frost line? In Connecticut is about 42. Pete -- Original message -- From: Curt Raymond [EMAIL PROTECTED] I'm not sure what we'll be doing, I need to look into it, I'm not sure we have enough yard for a ditch, maybe a little of each... I wonder, if your frost line is 6', how much of a 6' pond would freeze? -Curt Date: Thu, 20 Nov 2008 00:25:07 -0600 From: harry watkins [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: [MBZ] OT Heat pump freezing up To: Mercedes Discussion List mercedes@okiebenz.com Message-ID: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Content-Type: text/plain; format=flowed; charset=iso-8859-1; reply-type=response I have a geo unit. Due to a small lot on a golf course, I had to go straight down. Three wells, 30 feet apart, 220 feet down each, 3/4 inch looped tube in each well ties into a manifold and is pumped to the compressor with a small pump, smaller than a soft ball. Temperature of the alcohol water mix was 60 degrees F, 12 years ago and remains that now. Mine cost three times that of an air unit, but like Jim said, if you have room to install the tubes in a horizontal ditch, its much cheaper. Having a six foot deep pond nearby is even cheaper. Harry There's a company up here designing some that can work down to -40F. I'm considering one of the type that circulates coolant through a deep hole. I was told recently that the air-exchanger heat pump can run down to about 20F, and uses about 50% of the energy of electric heat. The newer ground-exchanger pumps will run down to whatever you get in your area, and use about 33% of the energy of electric heat. That's what I'd want, of course. We have acreage, so we perhaps wouldn't have to go deep, cutting the cost of installation. -- Jim ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] Ethanol/Why it works in Brazil/Stolen from OTC Journal
Curt Raymond wrote: Hmm, looked into one of the programs. You basically sign away your ability to choose what you want to do with your land... Yep, you're renting it to them. On the plus side, they paid us to plant trees. Oak walnut turned out to be expensive deer food at $2 each, they went right down the rows and chewed up the saplings repeatedly until they gave up and died. Serviceberry turned out to not be suited to our growing conditions, the white spruce are doing great, and the crabapple are doing OK. ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] Ethanol/Why it works in Brazil/Stolen from OTC Journal
Interesting. Theres very little oak in northern Maine (like nearly zero). We've got 7, the moose top them but don't seriously damage them. Mice destroy the pine (white, red and jack). Spruce seems to do pretty well. Zero luck with sugar maple, mountain ash and russian olive. Probably going to start some more oaks in the spring. Poplar (quaking aspen) we've got TONS of. You don't plant it you fight it... -Curt --- On Thu, 11/20/08, Mitch Haley [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: From: Mitch Haley [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: [MBZ] Ethanol/Why it works in Brazil/Stolen from OTC Journal To: [EMAIL PROTECTED], Mercedes Discussion List mercedes@okiebenz.com Date: Thursday, November 20, 2008, 1:31 PM Curt Raymond wrote: Hmm, looked into one of the programs. You basically sign away your ability to choose what you want to do with your land... Yep, you're renting it to them. On the plus side, they paid us to plant trees. Oak walnut turned out to be expensive deer food at $2 each, they went right down the rows and chewed up the saplings repeatedly until they gave up and died. Serviceberry turned out to not be suited to our growing conditions, the white spruce are doing great, and the crabapple are doing OK. ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] OT Heat pump freezing up
Used Deeprock equipment comes up on eBay now and then. You can get a complete setup (powerhead, trash pump, accessories) to go down 100' for $1000 if you are patient. You can get by using standard 3/4 black pipe for the main shaft. This is for the one that looks like a 2-cycle string trimmer on steroids. If you actually have to go thru any rock, forget it. They are not that durable. http://www.deeprock.com/diy.htm -Dave Walton On Thu, Nov 20, 2008 at 1:26 PM, Curt Raymond [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I'm not sure what we'll be doing, I need to look into it, I'm not sure we have enough yard for a ditch, maybe a little of each... I wonder, if your frost line is 6', how much of a 6' pond would freeze? -Curt Date: Thu, 20 Nov 2008 00:25:07 -0600 From: harry watkins [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: [MBZ] OT Heat pump freezing up To: Mercedes Discussion List mercedes@okiebenz.com Message-ID: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Content-Type: text/plain; format=flowed; charset=iso-8859-1; reply-type=response I have a geo unit. Due to a small lot on a golf course, I had to go straight down. Three wells, 30 feet apart, 220 feet down each, 3/4 inch looped tube in each well ties into a manifold and is pumped to the compressor with a small pump, smaller than a soft ball. Temperature of the alcohol water mix was 60 degrees F, 12 years ago and remains that now. Mine cost three times that of an air unit, but like Jim said, if you have room to install the tubes in a horizontal ditch, its much cheaper. Having a six foot deep pond nearby is even cheaper. Harry There's a company up here designing some that can work down to -40F. I'm considering one of the type that circulates coolant through a deep hole. I was told recently that the air-exchanger heat pump can run down to about 20F, and uses about 50% of the energy of electric heat. The newer ground-exchanger pumps will run down to whatever you get in your area, and use about 33% of the energy of electric heat. That's what I'd want, of course. We have acreage, so we perhaps wouldn't have to go deep, cutting the cost of installation. -- Jim ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] OT Heat pump freezing up
http://www.satelliteguys.us/attachment.php?attachmentid=7458d=1140473309 It seems to depend who you ask. The link seems to indicate ~50 for my house and 90 for my farm... I've seen others that say 20 for my house (obviously wrong)... Just a question though. There are places outside the continental US after all. CT sits right on the ocean which moderates it. -Curt --- On Thu, 11/20/08, [EMAIL PROTECTED] [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: [MBZ] OT Heat pump freezing up To: [EMAIL PROTECTED], Mercedes Discussion List mercedes@okiebenz.com Date: Thursday, November 20, 2008, 1:30 PM Who in the continental U.S.A. has a 72 frost line? In Connecticut is about 42. Pete -- Original message -- From: Curt Raymond [EMAIL PROTECTED] I'm not sure what we'll be doing, I need to look into it, I'm not sure we have enough yard for a ditch, maybe a little of each... I wonder, if your frost line is 6', how much of a 6' pond would freeze? -Curt Date: Thu, 20 Nov 2008 00:25:07 -0600 From: harry watkins [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: [MBZ] OT Heat pump freezing up To: Mercedes Discussion List mercedes@okiebenz.com Message-ID: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Content-Type: text/plain; format=flowed; charset=iso-8859-1; reply-type=response I have a geo unit. Due to a small lot on a golf course, I had to go straight down. Three wells, 30 feet apart, 220 feet down each, 3/4 inch looped tube in each well ties into a manifold and is pumped to the compressor with a small pump, smaller than a soft ball. Temperature of the alcohol water mix was 60 degrees F, 12 years ago and remains that now. Mine cost three times that of an air unit, but like Jim said, if you have room to install the tubes in a horizontal ditch, its much cheaper. Having a six foot deep pond nearby is even cheaper. Harry There's a company up here designing some that can work down to -40F. I'm considering one of the type that circulates coolant through a deep hole. I was told recently that the air-exchanger heat pump can run down to about 20F, and uses about 50% of the energy of electric heat. The newer ground-exchanger pumps will run down to whatever you get in your area, and use about 33% of the energy of electric heat. That's what I'd want, of course. We have acreage, so we perhaps wouldn't have to go deep, cutting the cost of installation. -- Jim ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] OT: Fed Reserve News
The sad part for us is that no one will blame him for anything, it will all be Bush's fault for four years, even when he can't keep all those promises. No pressure, no worry. Harry - Original Message - From: Rich Thomas [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: Mercedes Discussion List mercedes@okiebenz.com Sent: Thursday, November 20, 2008 10:36 AM Subject: Re: [MBZ] OT: Fed Reserve News Well the reason for this is a first-order consequence of electing a rookie who has absolutely no experience related to the job he wants, no deep ties to the establishment, no relationships built up over the years. So he looks around, sees who might actually know something about how stuff works, finds a bunch of retreads who have been hanging around for a few years Hoping for Change, and he grabs them up. Pretty soon they start telling him this and that, what does he know, so that is what he does. I suppose they'll help him keep his head above water for a coupla years until he figures stuff out on his own, if he is not too insulated from it all by this crowd or they don't get him in too deep. He'll be struggling with them as well as whatever issues arise, kinda hard on a guy trying to make Change. Bush did it too, got people from his daddy's admin, after a few years I think he sorted through some of them but they swayed him a lot. [Note: None of this expresses any subjective political partisanship, just reality] --R Allan Streib wrote: Rich Thomas [EMAIL PROTECTED] said: I know people have differing political viewpoints, that is all well and good, but I don't see how anyone could think this woman should be anywhere near anything important to peoples' lives given her past performance (which is likely indicative of future performance). The whole administration is shaping up to be a bunch of Clinton-era retreads. Was this the change we expected? If they wanted this, why did the Democrats reject Hillary in their primaries? Allan ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] OT Heat pump freezing up
Our frost line could get to 1/2 inch in a bad year. :). When I was in Michigan's UP, the lake near my house was used for ice fishing and the holes through the ice looked less than a foot to me. Harry - Original Message - From: Curt Raymond [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: Diesel List mercedes@okiebenz.com Sent: Thursday, November 20, 2008 12:26 PM Subject: Re: [MBZ] OT Heat pump freezing up I'm not sure what we'll be doing, I need to look into it, I'm not sure we have enough yard for a ditch, maybe a little of each... I wonder, if your frost line is 6', how much of a 6' pond would freeze? -Curt Date: Thu, 20 Nov 2008 00:25:07 -0600 From: harry watkins [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: [MBZ] OT Heat pump freezing up To: Mercedes Discussion List mercedes@okiebenz.com Message-ID: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Content-Type: text/plain; format=flowed; charset=iso-8859-1; reply-type=response I have a geo unit. Due to a small lot on a golf course, I had to go straight down. Three wells, 30 feet apart, 220 feet down each, 3/4 inch looped tube in each well ties into a manifold and is pumped to the compressor with a small pump, smaller than a soft ball. Temperature of the alcohol water mix was 60 degrees F, 12 years ago and remains that now. Mine cost three times that of an air unit, but like Jim said, if you have room to install the tubes in a horizontal ditch, its much cheaper. Having a six foot deep pond nearby is even cheaper. Harry There's a company up here designing some that can work down to -40F. I'm considering one of the type that circulates coolant through a deep hole. I was told recently that the air-exchanger heat pump can run down to about 20F, and uses about 50% of the energy of electric heat. The newer ground-exchanger pumps will run down to whatever you get in your area, and use about 33% of the energy of electric heat. That's what I'd want, of course. We have acreage, so we perhaps wouldn't have to go deep, cutting the cost of installation. -- Jim ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
[MBZ] Cars for Mr Ed
This has got to be a scam: http://annarbor.craigslist.org/cto/906161027.html Get out your official Wilton evap swap instructions: http://annarbor.craigslist.org/cto/921329302.html W210 anyone? http://lansing.craigslist.org/cto/892013676.html ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
[MBZ] Car For Sale
1990 Volvo 240DL Great shape. Paint looks great, interior in amazing condition. Dark Blue exterior and blue interior. 27 mpg (on Kansas highway at 70-75). I bought it from the original owner who gave me TONS of service records from the dealer. Just had tune-up, spark plugs, dist. cap/rotor, fuel filter. A/c works great, heat even better. Everything works! Nice car, just too small for me. I will take some pics this weekend if anyone is interested. Donald H. Snook ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] OT: your government at its absolute finest
i've always somehow liked nixon. he was so flawed it art. On Wed, Nov 19, 2008 at 5:03 PM, Wonko the Sane [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: He wasn't even around for Nixon. On Wed, Nov 19, 2008 at 4:57 PM, Wilton Strickland [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: WOW! You really ARE a whippersnapper! ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] OT computer software question
Skip Sunbird. What you want is Thunderbird + Lightning + Synkolab. If your ISP allows IMAP switch to it (POP is what most people use for email protocol but is pretty useless). Thunderbird is the email program, fully functional and will import from outlook. Lightning is the Sunbird plugin for Thunderbird and will allow you to interact with meeting invites from Outlooks calander. You can add attendees to your meetings in your calender etc and Outlook users and others can interface with it seamlessly. Synkolab will let you use your IMAP as a synchronization point for you calender, address book, and todo list so that you can share it with any other computer you use with the same setup. This is how I manage my calender from home and make sure that my data is consistent across my laptop (windows), home desktop (ubuntu), work desktop (kubuntu). It also serves as an offsite backup. I would image this setup will work with pretty much any OS, unlike M$ products. -Rolf R A Bennell wrote: I have been using Outlook 2000 as part of the Office set of programs for email as well as for a calendar to book appointments etc. I am trying to move away from Microsoft and have been testing Open Office which seems fine. However, I need a calendar setup like Outlook that is not included in Open Office. Anyone know of a similar program out there whether it be freeware, shareware or buy it now, that they are happy with? Randy ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] OT Heat pump freezing up
I bet we have half an inch of frost now... Its been 15F two mornings in a row, most ponds in the area skimmed over last night. -Curt --- On Thu, 11/20/08, harry watkins [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: From: harry watkins [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: [MBZ] OT Heat pump freezing up To: [EMAIL PROTECTED], Mercedes Discussion List mercedes@okiebenz.com Date: Thursday, November 20, 2008, 1:49 PM Our frost line could get to 1/2 inch in a bad year. :). When I was in Michigan's UP, the lake near my house was used for ice fishing and the holes through the ice looked less than a foot to me. Harry - Original Message - From: Curt Raymond [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: Diesel List mercedes@okiebenz.com Sent: Thursday, November 20, 2008 12:26 PM Subject: Re: [MBZ] OT Heat pump freezing up I'm not sure what we'll be doing, I need to look into it, I'm not sure we have enough yard for a ditch, maybe a little of each... I wonder, if your frost line is 6', how much of a 6' pond would freeze? -Curt Date: Thu, 20 Nov 2008 00:25:07 -0600 From: harry watkins [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: [MBZ] OT Heat pump freezing up To: Mercedes Discussion List mercedes@okiebenz.com Message-ID: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Content-Type: text/plain; format=flowed; charset=iso-8859-1; reply-type=response I have a geo unit. Due to a small lot on a golf course, I had to go straight down. Three wells, 30 feet apart, 220 feet down each, 3/4 inch looped tube in each well ties into a manifold and is pumped to the compressor with a small pump, smaller than a soft ball. Temperature of the alcohol water mix was 60 degrees F, 12 years ago and remains that now. Mine cost three times that of an air unit, but like Jim said, if you have room to install the tubes in a horizontal ditch, its much cheaper. Having a six foot deep pond nearby is even cheaper. Harry There's a company up here designing some that can work down to -40F. I'm considering one of the type that circulates coolant through a deep hole. I was told recently that the air-exchanger heat pump can run down to about 20F, and uses about 50% of the energy of electric heat. The newer ground-exchanger pumps will run down to whatever you get in your area, and use about 33% of the energy of electric heat. That's what I'd want, of course. We have acreage, so we perhaps wouldn't have to go deep, cutting the cost of installation. -- Jim ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] OT computer software question
Rolf wrote: Synkolab will let you use your IMAP as a synchronization point for you calender, address book, and todo list so that you can share it with any other computer you use with the same setup. This is how I manage my calender from home and make sure that my data is consistent across my laptop (windows), home desktop (ubuntu), work desktop (kubuntu). It also serves as an offsite backup. I know what I'm setting up over Thanksgiving! John ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
[MBZ] OT: Harbor Freight inverter/battery charger
http://www.harborfreight.com/cpi/ctaf/displayitem.taf?Itemnumber=93096 I saw this in the local HF store and thought it looked like a pretty fun toy. I've seen these combination inverter/chargers designed to run your whole house, marketed to the off-the-grid folks for major bucks, but never one this small or cheap. On the side you can't see in the picture, it has both a 120 VAC input and screw terminals for a 12V battery. So, hook up a couple of old car batteries in parallel, and you have a UPS that will last a lot longer when the power goes out than your typical OfficeMax model, correct? I wonder what would happen if you combined this with the little solar panels and matching charge controller that HF also sells. In other words, hook both the inverter/charger and the solar charge controller directly to the battery's terminals. It'd be great if the sun would charge the batteries and the inverter so the latter runs off DC power most of the time, but when the sun goes down, the charger side takes over and starts pulling AC to recharge the batteries and directly power whatever you have connected to the AC outlets. Wonder if the control circuitry is that smart or if I'd just be asking to blow up the batteries and burn the house down? Alex ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] OT: Harbor Freight inverter/battery charger
You might not want to put those batteries in the house -- they make hydrogen, that can go boom. Outside maybe with an extension cord? --R Alex Chamberlain wrote: http://www.harborfreight.com/cpi/ctaf/displayitem.taf?Itemnumber=93096 I saw this in the local HF store and thought it looked like a pretty fun toy. I've seen these combination inverter/chargers designed to run your whole house, marketed to the off-the-grid folks for major bucks, but never one this small or cheap. On the side you can't see in the picture, it has both a 120 VAC input and screw terminals for a 12V battery. So, hook up a couple of old car batteries in parallel, and you have a UPS that will last a lot longer when the power goes out than your typical OfficeMax model, correct? I wonder what would happen if you combined this with the little solar panels and matching charge controller that HF also sells. In other words, hook both the inverter/charger and the solar charge controller directly to the battery's terminals. It'd be great if the sun would charge the batteries and the inverter so the latter runs off DC power most of the time, but when the sun goes down, the charger side takes over and starts pulling AC to recharge the batteries and directly power whatever you have connected to the AC outlets. Wonder if the control circuitry is that smart or if I'd just be asking to blow up the batteries and burn the house down? Alex ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
[MBZ] Drool
Daughter has the bug, she sent this to me. --R http://www.ridelust.com/the-top-20-sports-cars-of-all-time/ ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] OT: Harbor Freight inverter/battery charger
UPS are gel cell. Car batteries aren't. I dont think you or your home owners insurance co want car batteries in your house. -Rolf Alex Chamberlain wrote: http://www.harborfreight.com/cpi/ctaf/displayitem.taf?Itemnumber=93096 I saw this in the local HF store and thought it looked like a pretty fun toy. I've seen these combination inverter/chargers designed to run your whole house, marketed to the off-the-grid folks for major bucks, but never one this small or cheap. On the side you can't see in the picture, it has both a 120 VAC input and screw terminals for a 12V battery. So, hook up a couple of old car batteries in parallel, and you have a UPS that will last a lot longer when the power goes out than your typical OfficeMax model, correct? I wonder what would happen if you combined this with the little solar panels and matching charge controller that HF also sells. In other words, hook both the inverter/charger and the solar charge controller directly to the battery's terminals. It'd be great if the sun would charge the batteries and the inverter so the latter runs off DC power most of the time, but when the sun goes down, the charger side takes over and starts pulling AC to recharge the batteries and directly power whatever you have connected to the AC outlets. Wonder if the control circuitry is that smart or if I'd just be asking to blow up the batteries and burn the house down? Alex ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] Drool
There wasn't a diesel MB in the whole list! Randy -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Behalf Of Rich Thomas Sent: Thursday, November 20, 2008 3:27 PM To: mercedes Discussion List Subject: [MBZ] Drool Daughter has the bug, she sent this to me. --R http://www.ridelust.com/the-top-20-sports-cars-of-all-time/ ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
[MBZ] Ebay auto-check
I think somebody said they had an ebay Autocheck membership. Can you check this vin # 2FAFP71W3XX226004? It should be a 1999 Ford Crown Vic police interceptor. Donald H. Snook ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] Ebay auto-check
Donald Snook wrote: Can you check this vin # 2FAFP71W3XX226004? It should be a 1999 Ford Crown Vic police interceptor. That it is. May I ask why you're looking at a car that's universally abused by jerks who didn't have to pay for it and don't care if it lasts? Mitch. ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
[MBZ] rear end questions
I admit I don't really understand how rear end gear ratios work. So, here's my question. There are two rear end choices 3.55 or 3.27. I am assuming that in order to gain power (acceleration AND top speed) that you consequently lose fuel mileage. Is that correct? (I hope so, or I REALLY don't understand rear end ratios). So, which one of these, 3.55 or 3.27 offers more power and which one offers better fuel economy? Donald H. Snook ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] rear end questions
You can't have both. You get top end or you get acceleration. 3.55 will be increased accel, 3.27 increased top end. -Rolf Donald Snook wrote: I admit I don't really understand how rear end gear ratios work. So, here's my question. There are two rear end choices 3.55 or 3.27. I am assuming that in order to gain power (acceleration AND top speed) that you consequently lose fuel mileage. Is that correct? (I hope so, or I REALLY don't understand rear end ratios). So, which one of these, 3.55 or 3.27 offers more power and which one offers better fuel economy? Donald H. Snook ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] Car For Sale
Price? --- On Thu, 11/20/08, Donald Snook [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: From: Donald Snook [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: [MBZ] Car For Sale To: Mercedes Discussion List mercedes@okiebenz.com Date: Thursday, November 20, 2008, 2:24 PM 1990 Volvo 240DL Great shape. Paint looks great, interior in amazing condition. Dark Blue exterior and blue interior. 27 mpg (on Kansas highway at 70-75). I bought it from the original owner who gave me TONS of service records from the dealer. Just had tune-up, spark plugs, dist. cap/rotor, fuel filter. A/c works great, heat even better. Everything works! Nice car, just too small for me. I will take some pics this weekend if anyone is interested. Donald H. Snook ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] rear end questions
Donald Snook wrote: So, which one of these, 3.55 or 3.27 offers more power and which one offers better fuel economy? 3.55 will move you off the line quicker, but you also run out of first gear sooner. 3.27 will give you a taller top gear and save some fuel, and maybe a little engine wear. Transmission ratios can make a difference too. My 16v has a 3.27 with a 1:1 fifth gear, which leaves me buzzing along at 4000 rpm at 80mph. If I had a 0.8:1 fifth gear and a 3.55:1 final drive, my overall ratio in fifth gear would be taller than it is now, 2.84 vs 3.27. Mitch. ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] 97 E320
Im sure there are but dont ask me how to get to them, never worked on one of those. R A Bennell wrote: Cannot recall. Did anyone have an answer to my earlier question about the climate control panel failing to light up in a 97 E320? Are there bulbs of some sort inside that part of the panel and how does one get to them?? Randy ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com No virus found in this incoming message. Checked by AVG - http://www.avg.com Version: 8.0.175 / Virus Database: 270.9.8/1801 - Release Date: 11/20/2008 9:11 AM -- Kaleb C. Striplin/Claremore, OK 92 300SD, 92 300E 4Matic, 91 300D, 91 300E, 89 560SEL, 87 300SDL x2, 85 380SE 5.0 Euro, 85 190D, 84 190D x2, 84 300D euro manny, 81 240D, 80 240D, 76 240D, 76 300D, 72 250C, 69 250, 66 220SEb http://www.okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] Ebay auto-check
Mitch Haley wrote: Donald Snook wrote: Can you check this vin # 2FAFP71W3XX226004? It should be a 1999 Ford Crown Vic police interceptor. That it is. May I ask why you're looking at a car that's universally abused by jerks who didn't have to pay for it and don't care if it lasts? They're cheap, big, comfy, get halfway respectable economy, and they do a good job of taking the beating. Not all of them are torn up... ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] Ebay auto-check
AutoCheck user log out: home | buyback registration | about us | contact us | help check existing report [VIN History] 2FAFP71W3XX226004 or enter a new VIN Print options: Report will print: With section details shown With section details hidden Summary Report Run Date: 2008-11-20 17:59:28.786 EST The vehicle identification number you submitted has been analyzed and summary information on your car is shown below. AutoCheck Unlimited with TitleGuard - Optional upgrade for just $25.00 more! Protect your investment against title problems. Add TitleGuard protections to your unlimited 60-day AutoCheck subscription. VIN: 2FAFP71W3XX226004 Year: 1999 Make: Ford Model: Crown Victoria Style/Body: Police / Sedan 4D Class: Traditional Car Engine: 4.6L V8 EFI Country of Assembly: Canada Vehicle Age: 9 year(s) Calculated Owners: 2 Last Reported Odometer Reading: 48,952 This vehicle's AutoCheck Score 62 53-69 This vehicle qualifies for Buyback Protection About Buyback Protection Section summaries Title and ProblemCheck:Your vehicle checks out! OdometerCheck:Your vehicle checks out! Vehicle Use and EventCheck:No vehicle use reported Full History:Detailed information available Title and ProblemCheck Your Vehicle Checks Out! AutoCheck's database for this 1999 Ford Crown Victoria (2FAFP71W3XX226004) shows no negative titles or other problems. When reported to AutoCheck, these events can indicate serious past damage or other significant problems. 0 Problem(s) Reported: 15 Title/Problem areas checked: No abandoned title record No damaged title or major damage incident record No fire damaged title record No grey market title record No hail damage title record No insurance loss title record No junk or scrapped title record No manufacturer buyback/lemon title record No odometer problem title record No rebuilt/rebuildable title record No salvage title or salvage auction record No water damaged title record No NHTSA crash test record No frame damage record No recycling facility record OdometerCheck Your Vehicle Checks Out! AutoCheck examined the reported odometer readings reported to AutoCheck for this 1999 Ford Crown Victoria (2FAFP71W3XX226004) and no indication of an odometer rollback or tampering was found. AutoCheck uses business rules to determine if reported odometer readings are significantly less than previously reported values. Not all reported odometer readings are used. Title and auction events also report odometer tampering or breakage. 0 Problem(s) Reported: Mileage Date Reported 6 08/17/1999 48,952 12/21/2001 Vehicle Use and EventCheck Your Vehicle Checks Out! AutoCheck shows no additional information reported to AutoCheck about how this 1999 Ford Crown Victoria (2FAFP71W3XX226004)has been used and other events. This includes reported accidents and corrected or duplicate titles and storm area registrations. 0 Event(s) Reported: 6 Vehicle uses checked: No fleet, rental and/or lease use record No taxi use record No police use record No government use record No livery use record No driver education record 0 Event(s) Reported: 9 Vehicle events checked: No accident record reported through state agencies or independent sources No corrected title record No duplicate title record No emission/safety inspection record No loan/lien record No fire damage incident record No repossessed record No theft record No storm area registration/title record Full History Below are the historical events for this vehicle listed in chronological order. Any discrepancies will be in bold text. Report Run Date: 2008-11-20 17:59:28.786 EST Vehicle: 1999 Ford Crown Victoria (2FAFP71W3XX226004) Event date Location Odometer reading Data Source Details 05/22/1999 MO Independent Source VEHICLE MANUFACTURED AND SHIPPED TO DEALER 08/17/1999 JEFFERSON CITY, MO 6 Motor Vehicle Dept. TITLE (Title #:CB361985) 12/17/2001 HERMANN, MO Motor Vehicle Dept. REGISTRATION EVENT/RENEWAL 12/21/2001 HERMANN, MO 48,952 Motor Vehicle Dept. TITLE (Title #:PJ208516) 04/01/2003 HERMANN, MO Motor Vehicle Dept. REGISTRATION EVENT/RENEWAL 05/24/2005 HERMANN, MO Motor Vehicle Dept. REGISTRATION EVENT/RENEWAL AutoCheck vehicle history report Terms and Conditions This report, and any reliance upon it, is subject to AutoCheck Terms and Conditions. If you obtained the report from a dealer, the dealer has been provided with these Terms Conditions and can share them with you. These AutoCheck Terms and Conditions are also available at any time at www.autocheck.com/consumers/disclaimer.do or by writing to Experian: Experian Automotive C/O AutoCheck Customer Service 955 American Lane Schaumburg IL 60173 AutoCheck Buyback Protection Terms and Conditions This vehicle (2FAFP71W3XX226004) qualifies for AutoCheck Buyback Protection. If you obtained the
Re: [MBZ] Ebay auto-check
He has this problem where he wants a nice MB, once comes along that fits the bill, then instead he buys a crap box, then gets bored, sells it, and the cycle starts all over. Think we have several like that round here. Mitch Haley wrote: Donald Snook wrote: Can you check this vin # 2FAFP71W3XX226004? It should be a 1999 Ford Crown Vic police interceptor. That it is. May I ask why you're looking at a car that's universally abused by jerks who didn't have to pay for it and don't care if it lasts? Mitch. ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com No virus found in this incoming message. Checked by AVG - http://www.avg.com Version: 8.0.175 / Virus Database: 270.9.8/1801 - Release Date: 11/20/2008 9:11 AM -- Kaleb C. Striplin/Claremore, OK 92 300SD, 92 300E 4Matic, 91 300D, 91 300E, 89 560SEL, 87 300SDL x2, 85 380SE 5.0 Euro, 85 190D, 84 190D x2, 84 300D euro manny, 81 240D, 80 240D, 76 240D, 76 300D, 72 250C, 69 250, 66 220SEb http://www.okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] Ebay auto-check
Mitch wrote: That it is. May I ask why you're looking at a car that's universally abused by jerks who didn't have to pay for it and don't care if it lasts? A few reasons. 1. I like the Crown Vics - at least I think I do. I have driven several of them as rental cars and if anyone abuses cars and doesn't care if they last, it is renters. 1. Second, my Volvo is just too small for me. I thought I could get used to it, but I am 6'3 and 260-270 lbs. 1. This particular CVPI (Crown Vic Police Interceptor) looks like it is in great shape. A friend of mine who is a Kansas Highway Patrolman, said the 99 CVPI is the best one he ever drove (until he got his newest car a Dodge Charger with a Hemi). 1. They get pretty decent mileage 23-25 on the highway. 1. They are great highway cruisers. 1. I can pick up three friends and throw all of our golf clubs in the trunk. 1. It is CHEAP. 1. I think (this is why I am confirming with the Autocheck) that this car was a MO Highway Patrol car for the first 50,000 miles, then was purchased by a suburban police department to be used as a admin car and thus was very well maintained with the HP and then had a pretty leisurely life with the suburban sheriff's department. 1. No one will tailgate me. 1. It is blue and I like blue cars. This is not a real reason, but if I got a CVPI - I wanted one with the street appearance package so it doesn't look completely like a cop car, but is close enough that people will get out of my way on the highway. 1. I also like the idea of being able to drive way out in western Kansas at 120 mph. Donald H. Snook ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] Car For Sale
LWB250 wrote regarding the Volvo for sale: Price? As much as I can get. Actually, I think the car is worth $2200. But, I was going to ask $2000. I forgot to mention, the car only has 138,000 miles. Donald H. Snook ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] Ebay auto-check
John R. wrote: They're cheap, big, comfy, get halfway respectable economy, and they do a good job of taking the beating. Not all of them are torn up... Well said, John. That about sums it up. Donald H. Snook ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] Ebay auto-check
Kaleb C. Striplin wrote: No police use record No government use record No livery use record Wow. Does that mean Missouri doesn't report that stuff, or does it mean a private owner ordered the police package? ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
[MBZ] OT, how do I know if I have a 32 bit or 64 bit processor?
Its a AMD athlon x2 dual core if that helps -- Kaleb C. Striplin/Claremore, OK 92 300SD, 92 300E 4Matic, 91 300D, 91 300E, 89 560SEL, 87 300SDL x2, 85 380SE 5.0 Euro, 85 190D, 84 190D x2, 84 300D euro manny, 81 240D, 80 240D, 76 240D, 76 300D, 72 250C, 69 250, 66 220SEb http://www.okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] rear end questions
Except on a P71 crown vic, where some 3.27 geared cars will not stay in overdrive at wide open throttle. In that case, all the 3.27 gets you is laziness off the line and theoretically better mileage when loafing around. In general, you're right, but he asked that right after asking about crown vics... On Thu, Nov 20, 2008 at 05:52:25PM -0500, Rolf wrote: You can't have both. You get top end or you get acceleration. 3.55 will be increased accel, 3.27 increased top end. -Rolf ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] Ebay auto-check
Donald Snook [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: 1. It is blue and I like blue cars. This is not a real reason, but if I got a CVPI - I wanted one with the street appearance package so it doesn't look completely like a cop car, but is close enough that people will get out of my way on the highway. Does it have the hard plastic puke-proof rear seat? Allan -- 1983 300D ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] OT, how do I know if I have a 32 bit or 64 bit processor?
Kaleb C. Striplin wrote: Its a AMD athlon x2 dual core if that helps AMD has had 64bit only for sometime afaik. ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
[MBZ] heat pumps geothermal
Which brand is the effective ground source heat pump to buy.? value for money. mak - Original Message - From: Curt Raymond [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: Mercedes Discussion List mercedes@okiebenz.com; harry watkins [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Friday, November 21, 2008 1:20 AM Subject: Re: [MBZ] OT Heat pump freezing up I bet we have half an inch of frost now... Its been 15F two mornings in a row, most ponds in the area skimmed over last night. -Curt --- On Thu, 11/20/08, harry watkins [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: From: harry watkins [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: [MBZ] OT Heat pump freezing up To: [EMAIL PROTECTED], Mercedes Discussion List mercedes@okiebenz.com Date: Thursday, November 20, 2008, 1:49 PM Our frost line could get to 1/2 inch in a bad year. :). When I was in Michigan's UP, the lake near my house was used for ice fishing and the holes through the ice looked less than a foot to me. Harry - Original Message - From: Curt Raymond [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: Diesel List mercedes@okiebenz.com Sent: Thursday, November 20, 2008 12:26 PM Subject: Re: [MBZ] OT Heat pump freezing up I'm not sure what we'll be doing, I need to look into it, I'm not sure we have enough yard for a ditch, maybe a little of each... I wonder, if your frost line is 6', how much of a 6' pond would freeze? -Curt Date: Thu, 20 Nov 2008 00:25:07 -0600 From: harry watkins [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: [MBZ] OT Heat pump freezing up To: Mercedes Discussion List mercedes@okiebenz.com Message-ID: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Content-Type: text/plain; format=flowed; charset=iso-8859-1; reply-type=response I have a geo unit. Due to a small lot on a golf course, I had to go straight down. Three wells, 30 feet apart, 220 feet down each, 3/4 inch looped tube in each well ties into a manifold and is pumped to the compressor with a small pump, smaller than a soft ball. Temperature of the alcohol water mix was 60 degrees F, 12 years ago and remains that now. Mine cost three times that of an air unit, but like Jim said, if you have room to install the tubes in a horizontal ditch, its much cheaper. Having a six foot deep pond nearby is even cheaper. Harry There's a company up here designing some that can work down to -40F. I'm considering one of the type that circulates coolant through a deep hole. I was told recently that the air-exchanger heat pump can run down to about 20F, and uses about 50% of the energy of electric heat. The newer ground-exchanger pumps will run down to whatever you get in your area, and use about 33% of the energy of electric heat. That's what I'd want, of course. We have acreage, so we perhaps wouldn't have to go deep, cutting the cost of installation. -- Jim ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com No virus found in this incoming message. Checked by AVG - http://www.avg.com Version: 8.0.175 / Virus Database: 270.9.8/1800 - Release Date: 11/19/2008 6:55 PM ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] Ebay auto-check
I have 2002 model (LXE) that is as close to a P71 as you can get with a stock car, and it's all of those things and more. As for seeing mid-20s for fuel mileage, that's never happened, but then again, I've never run a whole tank of fuel on the interstate, either. I will say that I consistently get around 20-21 mpg with a mostly 70-30 city/hwy cycle, which I think is pretty good. I really love it now that I have a stock radio and my iPod Touch set up in it. I could just about live in the thing... Dan --- On Thu, 11/20/08, John Robbins [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: From: John Robbins [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: [MBZ] Ebay auto-check To: Mercedes Discussion List mercedes@okiebenz.com Date: Thursday, November 20, 2008, 5:57 PM Mitch Haley wrote: Donald Snook wrote: Can you check this vin # 2FAFP71W3XX226004? It should be a 1999 Ford Crown Vic police interceptor. That it is. May I ask why you're looking at a car that's universally abused by jerks who didn't have to pay for it and don't care if it lasts? They're cheap, big, comfy, get halfway respectable economy, and they do a good job of taking the beating. Not all of them are torn up... ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] my rare 300D 4 speed euro
Come tomorrow I might be out of a job. Just got another email from the president of the company, they are elminating another level of management, which is my boss. Just got a message that we are having a meeting in the morning. No telling what that is all about. So I may get fired, get forclosed on, have to get rid of all my crap, and move to maine or somewhere. Curt Raymond wrote: I'll believe that when I see it... Date: Thu, 20 Nov 2008 08:06:27 -0600 From: Kaleb C. Striplin [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: [MBZ] my rare 300D 4 speed euro To: Mercedes Discussion List mercedes@okiebenz.com Message-ID: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed speaking of which, I might be getting rid of that 380SE with the 5.0 euro in it also. In fact, I might just get rid of all my crap except the cars I drive. ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com No virus found in this incoming message. Checked by AVG - http://www.avg.com Version: 8.0.175 / Virus Database: 270.9.8/1801 - Release Date: 11/20/2008 9:11 AM -- Kaleb C. Striplin/Claremore, OK 92 300SD, 92 300E 4Matic, 91 300D, 91 300E, 89 560SEL, 87 300SDL x2, 85 380SE 5.0 Euro, 85 190D, 84 190D x2, 84 300D euro manny, 81 240D, 80 240D, 76 240D, 76 300D, 72 250C, 69 250, 66 220SEb http://www.okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
[MBZ] Remove the seatback?
So I finally got my copy of the FSM to work (at least mostly) and I looked up the job for replacing the shocks. Looks like: Pull the back seat back Remove the upper nuts (take a picture so I know the order of bits) Lift the car, remove the wheel, support the LCA Remove the lower shock attachment (bolt?) Remove the shock Insert new shock Attach lower (bolt?) Replace washer and rubber whatsit up top The FSM says: Tighten the lower of the two hex nuts up to the end of threads, then counterlock with upper nut Does that mean turn both up to the TOP or down to the bottom of the threads? I'm thinking bottom but not sure. -Curt ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] my rare 300D 4 speed euro
That would truly suck. FWIW, I know where you could get $500 quick Dan --- On Thu, 11/20/08, Kaleb C. Striplin [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: From: Kaleb C. Striplin [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: [MBZ] my rare 300D 4 speed euro To: Mercedes Discussion List mercedes@okiebenz.com Date: Thursday, November 20, 2008, 8:43 PM Come tomorrow I might be out of a job. Just got another email from the president of the company, they are elminating another level of management, which is my boss. Just got a message that we are having a meeting in the morning. No telling what that is all about. So I may get fired, get forclosed on, have to get rid of all my crap, and move to maine or somewhere. Curt Raymond wrote: I'll believe that when I see it... Date: Thu, 20 Nov 2008 08:06:27 -0600 From: Kaleb C. Striplin [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: [MBZ] my rare 300D 4 speed euro To: Mercedes Discussion List mercedes@okiebenz.com Message-ID: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed speaking of which, I might be getting rid of that 380SE with the 5.0 euro in it also. In fact, I might just get rid of all my crap except the cars I drive. ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com No virus found in this incoming message. Checked by AVG - http://www.avg.com Version: 8.0.175 / Virus Database: 270.9.8/1801 - Release Date: 11/20/2008 9:11 AM -- Kaleb C. Striplin/Claremore, OK 92 300SD, 92 300E 4Matic, 91 300D, 91 300E, 89 560SEL, 87 300SDL x2, 85 380SE 5.0 Euro, 85 190D, 84 190D x2, 84 300D euro manny, 81 240D, 80 240D, 76 240D, 76 300D, 72 250C, 69 250, 66 220SEb http://www.okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] heat pumps geothermal
www.waterfurnance.com is what I have, don't know about any others. Try a google search. Harry Which brand is the effective ground source heat pump to buy.? value for money. mak ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] OT: Harbor Freight inverter/battery charger
I saw this in the local HF store and thought it looked like a pretty fun toy. I've seen these combination inverter/chargers designed to run your whole house, marketed to the off-the-grid folks for major bucks, but never one this small or cheap. On the side you can't see in the picture, it has both a 120 VAC input and screw terminals for a 12V battery. If it's 12V, it's not a serious whole-house thing. A car-battery sized AGM (or whatever) is only good for maybe 1kW of output power. All the bigger systems I know of are 24V or 48V. Mine are all 48V. So, hook up a couple of old car batteries in parallel, and you have a UPS that will last a lot longer when the power goes out than your typical OfficeMax model, correct? My 4x75AH pack on the 2kVA APC only ran about 200W of computers for an hour before it started making distressed noises and flashing the lights on the front. The batteries are about 2.5 years old now, in continuous duty float service, and are probably on their way out. Batteries are a significant and recurring expense for these things. I hate them. I wonder what would happen if you combined this with the little solar panels and matching charge controller that HF also sells. Not much. Little solar panels provide little solar energy. They're rated in watts. You can get a rough estimate out of what kind of energy they'll accumulate. Nowhere near enough to do any kind of interesting job on the typical household. -- Jim ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] OT: Harbor Freight inverter/battery charger
YOu would use deep discharge batteries - for trolling motors, etc. How about his wiring/controller question? Do-able? On Thu, Nov 20, 2008 at 3:39 PM, Rolf [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: UPS are gel cell. Car batteries aren't. I dont think you or your home owners insurance co want car batteries in your house. -Rolf -- OK Don, KD5NRO Norman, OK There are only three sports: bullfighting, motor racing, and mountaineering; all the rest are merely games. - Ernest Hemingway '90 300D (Rattled), '92 300D (Saber), ''97 Ply Grand Voyager (Vincent van-go) ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] fixing cars in the snow.
see if I can glue the tang back on. Shoe Goo! That and a splint (if there's room) and it'll be as strong as new. -- Jim ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] OT: Harbor Freight inverter/battery charger
I think the 2kw version is more interesting -- http://www.harborfreight.com/cpi/ctaf/Displayitem.taf?itemnumber=92464 It would need more batteries (outside) to be useful though. -- OK Don, KD5NRO Norman, OK There are only three sports: bullfighting, motor racing, and mountaineering; all the rest are merely games. - Ernest Hemingway '90 300D (Rattled), '92 300D (Saber), ''97 Ply Grand Voyager (Vincent van-go) ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
[MBZ] OT: Generators (not)
Local CL has a 'generator' offered, it's an ancient open-frame thing. Looked like 4-pole from the pictures. Turned out it was an old GE induction motor, 8 Amps at 2080 Volts. Flat belt shaft. Impressive looking, anybody need it? Shipping not included, supposedly it lifted the front wheels of a small tow truck off the ground. -- Jim ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] fixing cars in the snow.
Got a 4 pack of mini Krazy Glue, and got it all back together. :-) Took the other side apart while I was at it and gave everything a good clean, including the connections. Only thing, all the exterior lights now work, and work in every config, but the dash warning light still comes on telling me a light is out. The warning light is only for exterior lights, right? Do I have to disconnect the battery to reset the warning light?? Ed 300E 2008/11/20 Jim Cathey [EMAIL PROTECTED] see if I can glue the tang back on. Shoe Goo! That and a splint (if there's room) and it'll be as strong as new. -- Jim ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] my rare 300D 4 speed euro
Dude, you lose your job, can't pay the mortgage, call Bwawney Fwank and Obammie, you be getting your bailout check in the mail next week. You're a sucka if you keep paying your mortgage these days. --R Kaleb C. Striplin wrote: Come tomorrow I might be out of a job. Just got another email from the president of the company, they are elminating another level of management, which is my boss. Just got a message that we are having a meeting in the morning. No telling what that is all about. So I may get fired, get forclosed on, have to get rid of all my crap, and move to maine or somewhere. Curt Raymond wrote: I'll believe that when I see it... Date: Thu, 20 Nov 2008 08:06:27 -0600 From: Kaleb C. Striplin [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: [MBZ] my rare 300D 4 speed euro To: Mercedes Discussion List mercedes@okiebenz.com Message-ID: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed speaking of which, I might be getting rid of that 380SE with the 5.0 euro in it also. In fact, I might just get rid of all my crap except the cars I drive. ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com No virus found in this incoming message. Checked by AVG - http://www.avg.com Version: 8.0.175 / Virus Database: 270.9.8/1801 - Release Date: 11/20/2008 9:11 AM ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] OT, how do I know if I have a 32 bit or 64 bit processor?
Probably - should be an Athlon 64 X2 thoguh. On Thu, Nov 20, 2008 at 6:20 PM, Kaleb C. Striplin [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Its a AMD athlon x2 dual core if that helps -- -- OK Don, KD5NRO Norman, OK There are only three sports: bullfighting, motor racing, and mountaineering; all the rest are merely games. - Ernest Hemingway '90 300D (Rattled), '92 300D (Saber), ''97 Ply Grand Voyager (Vincent van-go) ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] Remove the seatback?
Put one nut on the threads - run it down to the end of the threads (NOT any farther), then put the second one on - run it down to meet the first one. Hold the first one still with wrench, tighten the second one. It's locking the first one in place. On Thu, Nov 20, 2008 at 8:08 PM, Curt Raymond [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: So I finally got my copy of the FSM to work (at least mostly) and I looked up the job for replacing the shocks. Looks like: Pull the back seat back Remove the upper nuts (take a picture so I know the order of bits) Lift the car, remove the wheel, support the LCA Remove the lower shock attachment (bolt?) Remove the shock Insert new shock Attach lower (bolt?) Replace washer and rubber whatsit up top The FSM says: Tighten the lower of the two hex nuts up to the end of threads, then counterlock with upper nut Does that mean turn both up to the TOP or down to the bottom of the threads? I'm thinking bottom but not sure. -Curt -- OK Don, KD5NRO Norman, OK There are only three sports: bullfighting, motor racing, and mountaineering; all the rest are merely games. - Ernest Hemingway '90 300D (Rattled), '92 300D (Saber), ''97 Ply Grand Voyager (Vincent van-go) ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] my rare 300D 4 speed euro
H ---one of the few vergassers that tempt me On Thu, Nov 20, 2008 at 8:06 AM, Kaleb C. Striplin [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: speaking of which, I might be getting rid of that 380SE with the 5.0 euro in it also. In fact, I might just get rid of all my crap except the cars I drive. -- OK Don, KD5NRO Norman, OK There are only three sports: bullfighting, motor racing, and mountaineering; all the rest are merely games. - Ernest Hemingway '90 300D (Rattled), '92 300D (Saber), ''97 Ply Grand Voyager (Vincent van-go) ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] fixing cars in the snow.
Even the little marker lights on the sides? license plate lights? I didn't have to do anything to reset the warning light - just replaced the burnt out bulb. On Thu, Nov 20, 2008 at 9:36 PM, E M [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Got a 4 pack of mini Krazy Glue, and got it all back together. :-) Took the other side apart while I was at it and gave everything a good clean, including the connections. Only thing, all the exterior lights now work, and work in every config, but the dash warning light still comes on telling me a light is out. The warning light is only for exterior lights, right? Do I have to disconnect the battery to reset the warning light?? Ed 300E -- OK Don, KD5NRO Norman, OK There are only three sports: bullfighting, motor racing, and mountaineering; all the rest are merely games. - Ernest Hemingway '90 300D (Rattled), '92 300D (Saber), ''97 Ply Grand Voyager (Vincent van-go) ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
[MBZ] Not getting my Pagoda
Check engine light came on in the van. Took it to the car doctor. Popped two codes related to the O2 sensors. SWMBA decided that cost to repair is reason to look for a new car. Not going to get my w113. Not sure what she has in mind. People hauler/truck substitute or replacement for the E300D. Anybody have ideas for consideration? -- Clay Seattle Bioburner 1972 220D - Gump 1995 E300D - Cleo 1987 300SDL - POS - DOA The FSM would drive a Diesel Benz ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] OT Heat pump freezing up
Try Minnesota On Thu, Nov 20, 2008 at 12:30 PM, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Who in the continental U.S.A. has a 72 frost line? In Connecticut is about 42. -- OK Don, KD5NRO Norman, OK There are only three sports: bullfighting, motor racing, and mountaineering; all the rest are merely games. - Ernest Hemingway '90 300D (Rattled), '92 300D (Saber), ''97 Ply Grand Voyager (Vincent van-go) ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] Not getting my Pagoda
Spare 124 Diesels --- On Thu, Nov 20, 2008 at 9:52 PM, Redghost [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Check engine light came on in the van. Took it to the car doctor. Popped two codes related to the O2 sensors. SWMBA decided that cost to repair is reason to look for a new car. Not going to get my w113. Not sure what she has in mind. People hauler/truck substitute or replacement for the E300D. Anybody have ideas for consideration? -- OK Don, KD5NRO Norman, OK There are only three sports: bullfighting, motor racing, and mountaineering; all the rest are merely games. - Ernest Hemingway '90 300D (Rattled), '92 300D (Saber), ''97 Ply Grand Voyager (Vincent van-go) ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] 97 E320
More than likely one bulb to do the whole thing but I would have to check on that. Which I don't have time to do now but as a matter of curiosity I will when I get a chance. Hendrik with really old Benzes, the newest being nearly 20 years old Kaleb C. Striplin wrote: Im sure there are but dont ask me how to get to them, never worked on one of those. R A Bennell wrote: Cannot recall. Did anyone have an answer to my earlier question about the climate control panel failing to light up in a 97 E320? Are there bulbs of some sort inside that part of the panel and how does one get to them?? Randy ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] fixing cars in the snow.
E M [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: Only thing, all the exterior lights now work, and work in every config, but the dash warning light still comes on telling me a light is out. The warning light is only for exterior lights, right? Do I have to disconnect the battery to reset the warning light?? Even if the lights are all working, I belive the warning lamp can illuminate if you have different wattages in the various lamps. Everything has to be in balance to extinguish the dash lamp. Allan -- 1983 300D ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] Not getting my Pagoda
I am all for that, but she is getting to the point the ED is too long in the tooth for her liking. S she wants a heck if I know... I am happy with Gump and could be fine with her ED. Maybe a Sprinter clay On Nov 20, 2008, at 7:56 PM, OK Don wrote: Spare 124 Diesels --- On Thu, Nov 20, 2008 at 9:52 PM, Redghost [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Check engine light came on in the van. Took it to the car doctor. Popped two codes related to the O2 sensors. SWMBA decided that cost to repair is reason to look for a new car. Not going to get my w113. Not sure what she has in mind. People hauler/truck substitute or replacement for the E300D. Anybody have ideas for consideration? -- OK Don, KD5NRO Norman, OK There are only three sports: bullfighting, motor racing, and mountaineering; all the rest are merely games. - Ernest Hemingway '90 300D (Rattled), '92 300D (Saber), ''97 Ply Grand Voyager (Vincent van-go) ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] fixing cars in the snow.
yeah, I went over everyone, can't find it. I even backed up against a wall at night, so I could see that both reverse lights were on. Ed 300E 2008/11/20 OK Don [EMAIL PROTECTED] Even the little marker lights on the sides? license plate lights? I didn't have to do anything to reset the warning light - just replaced the burnt out bulb. On Thu, Nov 20, 2008 at 9:36 PM, E M [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Got a 4 pack of mini Krazy Glue, and got it all back together. :-) Took the other side apart while I was at it and gave everything a good clean, including the connections. Only thing, all the exterior lights now work, and work in every config, but the dash warning light still comes on telling me a light is out. The warning light is only for exterior lights, right? Do I have to disconnect the battery to reset the warning light?? Ed 300E -- OK Don, KD5NRO Norman, OK There are only three sports: bullfighting, motor racing, and mountaineering; all the rest are merely games. - Ernest Hemingway '90 300D (Rattled), '92 300D (Saber), ''97 Ply Grand Voyager (Vincent van-go) ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] my rare 300D 4 speed euro
Iowa is hiring. You can't find an apartment anywhere in Jefferson right now because folks coming here to work have sucked them up. On Thu, Nov 20, 2008 at 7:43 PM, Kaleb C. Striplin [EMAIL PROTECTED]wrote: Come tomorrow I might be out of a job. Just got another email from the president of the company, they are elminating another level of management, which is my boss. Just got a message that we are having a meeting in the morning. No telling what that is all about. So I may get fired, get forclosed on, have to get rid of all my crap, and move to maine or somewhere. Curt Raymond wrote: I'll believe that when I see it... Date: Thu, 20 Nov 2008 08:06:27 -0600 From: Kaleb C. Striplin [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: [MBZ] my rare 300D 4 speed euro To: Mercedes Discussion List mercedes@okiebenz.com Message-ID: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed speaking of which, I might be getting rid of that 380SE with the 5.0 euro in it also. In fact, I might just get rid of all my crap except the cars I drive. ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com No virus found in this incoming message. Checked by AVG - http://www.avg.com Version: 8.0.175 / Virus Database: 270.9.8/1801 - Release Date: 11/20/2008 9:11 AM -- Kaleb C. Striplin/Claremore, OK 92 300SD, 92 300E 4Matic, 91 300D, 91 300E, 89 560SEL, 87 300SDL x2, 85 380SE 5.0 Euro, 85 190D, 84 190D x2, 84 300D euro manny, 81 240D, 80 240D, 76 240D, 76 300D, 72 250C, 69 250, 66 220SEb http://www.okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] my rare 300D 4 speed euro
I have another $500 waiting for him (if he delivers). On Thu, Nov 20, 2008 at 8:17 PM, LWB250 [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: That would truly suck. FWIW, I know where you could get $500 quick Dan --- On Thu, 11/20/08, Kaleb C. Striplin [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: From: Kaleb C. Striplin [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: [MBZ] my rare 300D 4 speed euro To: Mercedes Discussion List mercedes@okiebenz.com Date: Thursday, November 20, 2008, 8:43 PM Come tomorrow I might be out of a job. Just got another email from the president of the company, they are elminating another level of management, which is my boss. Just got a message that we are having a meeting in the morning. No telling what that is all about. So I may get fired, get forclosed on, have to get rid of all my crap, and move to maine or somewhere. Curt Raymond wrote: I'll believe that when I see it... Date: Thu, 20 Nov 2008 08:06:27 -0600 From: Kaleb C. Striplin [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: [MBZ] my rare 300D 4 speed euro To: Mercedes Discussion List mercedes@okiebenz.com Message-ID: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed speaking of which, I might be getting rid of that 380SE with the 5.0 euro in it also. In fact, I might just get rid of all my crap except the cars I drive. ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com No virus found in this incoming message. Checked by AVG - http://www.avg.com Version: 8.0.175 / Virus Database: 270.9.8/1801 - Release Date: 11/20/2008 9:11 AM -- Kaleb C. Striplin/Claremore, OK 92 300SD, 92 300E 4Matic, 91 300D, 91 300E, 89 560SEL, 87 300SDL x2, 85 380SE 5.0 Euro, 85 190D, 84 190D x2, 84 300D euro manny, 81 240D, 80 240D, 76 240D, 76 300D, 72 250C, 69 250, 66 220SEb http://www.okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] fixing cars in the snow.
Hmm, that could be possible. The lights all look the same in brightness, but as I can't find anything else, I'll start pulling the bulbs and checking that they all match what's on the other side. Thanks. Ed 300E 2008/11/20 Allan Streib [EMAIL PROTECTED] E M [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: Only thing, all the exterior lights now work, and work in every config, but the dash warning light still comes on telling me a light is out. The warning light is only for exterior lights, right? Do I have to disconnect the battery to reset the warning light?? Even if the lights are all working, I belive the warning lamp can illuminate if you have different wattages in the various lamps. Everything has to be in balance to extinguish the dash lamp. Allan -- 1983 300D ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] Not getting my Pagoda
Is it just the O2. They`re cheap enough and usually easy enough to reach. Ed 300E 2008/11/20 Redghost [EMAIL PROTECTED] Check engine light came on in the van. Took it to the car doctor. Popped two codes related to the O2 sensors. SWMBA decided that cost to repair is reason to look for a new car. Not going to get my w113. Not sure what she has in mind. People hauler/truck substitute or replacement for the E300D. Anybody have ideas for consideration? -- Clay Seattle Bioburner 1972 220D - Gump 1995 E300D - Cleo 1987 300SDL - POS - DOA The FSM would drive a Diesel Benz ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
