Re: [MBZ] OT: Energy efficiency
Um that is weird as I ordered three all wood insulated Marvin awning windows for my garage. They came in yesterday. They broke the bank! Sent from my iPhone On Dec 2, 2014, at 11:15 PM, Andrew Strasfogel via Mercedes mercedes@okiebenz.com wrote: Years ago I purchased some large insulated Marvin awning windows, with wooden frames. Very impressed with their craftsmanship. On Tue, Dec 2, 2014 at 9:14 PM, Jim Cathey via Mercedes mercedes@okiebenz.com wrote: What are you using? Are they factory or something someone has cobbled together? Pella. Factory issue. Been a few years now since I've bought one. These are the kinds of windows that can have blinds between the two panes. Our doors do, but none of the windows have them. All could, IIRC. -- Jim ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com All posts are the result of individual contributors and as such, those individuals are responsible for the content of the post. The list owner has no control over the content of the messages of each contributor. ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com All posts are the result of individual contributors and as such, those individuals are responsible for the content of the post. The list owner has no control over the content of the messages of each contributor. ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com All posts are the result of individual contributors and as such, those individuals are responsible for the content of the post. The list owner has no control over the content of the messages of each contributor.
Re: [MBZ] OT: Energy efficiency
Andrew Strasfogel wrote: Years ago I purchased some large insulated Marvin awning windows, with wooden frames. Very impressed with their craftsmanship. When we replaced the 1959 single-pane, steel-frame casement windows in our house a few years ago, we got the windows from Marvin. We are pleased with them. Craig The use of awning windows is interesting since there seemed to be few down here in Florida other than in RVs. The advantages of awning windows over casement windows seems obvious. hinged windows are less likely to stick than sliding windows and they would certainly keep rain out in the event of a sudden shower where other type windows won't and are probably easier to open in freezing weather. I think we put Andersen aluminum sliding windows in our new house about 20 years ago. Wife liked them because the panes could be swung inward for cleaning without having to go outside. If I built a new house I would probably use wood awning windows even though the popular style down here still seems to be sliding windows. On the subject of houses, I saw an interesting design being built in this subdivision by a retired widower. It was, I would guess, about 60' wide with the whole back of the house being a garage/workshop into which a long RV or large boat plus pickup could be driven.In the front of the house were the usual living room, study, dayroom, kitchen, bath, etc. The foreman said a steel I-beam was in the plans which would have a sliding electric winch for pulling engines, etc. I would want a one or two car garage as well, but this disign had none. . Awning windows are a type of window design that allows the window sash to swing outward rather than inward or up and down. Once in common use in schools, manufacturing plants and some homes prior to the advent of air conditioning in those environments, this type of window is still sometimes utilized in the design for newer homes in temperate climates. The window may be operated with a hand crank or with the use of pull chains. One of the most common examples of the awning window can be found in manufacturing plants and schools that were built between the 1920’s and 1950’s. In both cases, the windows normally involved large sashes that were composed of pane glass surrounded with metal framing. Depending on the application, the panes could be either large sections of glass that took up the entire frame, or a series of smaller panes encased within the structure of the frame. These examples of awning windows normally were operated with pull chains, since they tended to reach all the way to the tall ceilings of the day. When situated properly in the design, opening the windows could allow a cross current which helped to cool the interior. Many homes built in the 1940’s through the early 1960’s also made use of the awning window. In these instances, the panes were normally hinged at the top and made use of hand cranks to open and close the sashes. The hand crank made it possible to position the window sashes at any desired point, which meant the homeowner could retract the windows in the event of rain, but still leave them open to catch a breeze. When desired, the windows could be rolled out fully and allow a steady flow of fresh air into the space. As air conditioning systems became more common in both homes and public buildings, the awning window began to fall out of favor. Some home owners chose to replace these windows with a more conventional up and down sliding style, noting that some designs of the awning window would eventually fail to close fully and inhibit the ability to heat the home during cooler months. Still, there are plenty of homes around today, especially in areas with moderate temperatures that feature the windows. The awning window is still available for new construction, as well as for replacing windows in older homes. http://www.wisegeek.com/what-is-an-awning-window.htm ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com All posts are the result of individual contributors and as such, those individuals are responsible for the content of the post. The list owner has no control over the content of the messages of each contributor.
Re: [MBZ] Coal rolling
Neighbor, who was in the trucking business, said he once had a truck with a Cummins engine that had a compression release. If a car continued to draft him in spite of his flashing the brake lights, turning on the emergency lights, slowing down, etc.; he would take his truck out of gear, floor board the accellerator, and operate the compression release. A fine mist would coat the tailgaters windshield with a film of diesel fuel. If he turned on his wipers, which many did, it would smear and he/she would have to stop and clean the windshield. He would also find that the whole front of the car had a very thin coating of diesel fuel. Gerry ... Extended low speed driving causes soot to build up in the exhaust. Put your foot down and all the loose soot comes flying out when the turbo spins up hard! Since my 300D is currently NOT putting out a cloud of smoke when I pull onto the expressway, I think it's time for new fuel filters! Peter ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com All posts are the result of individual contributors and as such, those individuals are responsible for the content of the post. The list owner has no control over the content of the messages of each contributor. - No virus found in this message. Checked by AVG - www.avg.com Version: 2015.0.5577 / Virus Database: 4235/8671 - Release Date: 12/02/14 -- arche...@embarqmail.com arche...@embarqmail.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com All posts are the result of individual contributors and as such, those individuals are responsible for the content of the post. The list owner has no control over the content of the messages of each contributor.
[MBZ] Russian MiG-31 almost collides with Norwegian F-16
Russian MiG-31 almost collides with Norwegian F-16 during aggressive air maneuver http://globalaviationreport.com (INCLUDES VIDEO) Video footage released by the Norwegian ministry of defense shows a Norwegian F-16’s close encounter with a Russian MiG being routinely intercepted in international air space. “What the hell,” the Norwegian pilot is heard saying, as he performs a sudden evasive maneuver. The military would not confirm when or where the incident occurred. Editor’s note: This type of maneuver is standard practice by Russian pilots. Dangerous and unnecessary, it is in stark contrast to the professionalism displayed by U.S. and allied pilots during routine air intercepts. The public may be seeing this now, but it’s nothing new. Russia has been engaged in this type of aerial stunt for decades. It becomes even more dangerous when it involves a Russian fighter “cutting off” larger, less maneuverable U.S. and NATO aircraft (P-8, P-3, EP-3, RC-135). And as the Chinese proved – it can be very deadly. . Thinking back to WW-2, the Russians were good at air to ground strafing and bombing, but not so good at dog fights. Gerry ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com All posts are the result of individual contributors and as such, those individuals are responsible for the content of the post. The list owner has no control over the content of the messages of each contributor.
[MBZ] Frankenheap
Two days ago I notice the heater fan wasn't working anymore. Yikes! This morning I had a chance to look at it, and it's merely a blown fuse. I was thrown by the fact that it wasn't working on the preheater either, which does not require the fuse. (But it only runs it on low, and the fan was a bit sticky with disuse. Once the car was able to run it at higher speeds the preheater function started working right too.) Just in time for the snow/ice they're predicting. It's been very cold here, but mostly very dry. I also found a split vacuum plug on the main line, that might explain the intermittent loss of boost. I got the torn headliner in the back glued back up, and the Christmas lights re-hung. 'tis the season! -- Jim ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com All posts are the result of individual contributors and as such, those individuals are responsible for the content of the post. The list owner has no control over the content of the messages of each contributor.
[MBZ] 124 headliner repair ideas
The headliner in my '95 sedan is sagging. New from Classic Center with MBCA discount is over $1000. I'd like to know if anyone else has successfully repaired / re-glued a 124 headliner. I'm also open to trying other options, like removing the old headliner entirely, and installing some dynamat insulation, and then covering that somehow. -- - Max Charleston SC ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com All posts are the result of individual contributors and as such, those individuals are responsible for the content of the post. The list owner has no control over the content of the messages of each contributor.
Re: [MBZ] 124 headliner repair ideas
WOW! The FAA approved, flame resistant, custom sewn headliner for our Cessna was only $200! I didn't know that anything for an aircraft could be less expensive than the similar item for a car. On Wed, Dec 3, 2014 at 11:18 AM, Meade Dillon via Mercedes mercedes@okiebenz.com wrote: The headliner in my '95 sedan is sagging. New from Classic Center with MBCA discount is over $1000. -- OK Don NSA: The only branch of government that actually listens to US citizens! There are three kinds of men: The ones that learns by reading. The few who learn by observation. The rest of them have to pee on the electric fence for themselves. WILL ROGERS, *The Manly Wisdom of Will Rogers* 2013 F150, 18 mpg 2012 Passat TDI DSG, 44 mpg 1957 C182A, 12 mpg - but at 150 mph! ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com All posts are the result of individual contributors and as such, those individuals are responsible for the content of the post. The list owner has no control over the content of the messages of each contributor.
Re: [MBZ] 124 headliner repair ideas
The plane does not have a 3 point star on the front (unless you have a 3 bladed prop). RB On 03/12/2014 12:02 PM, OK Don via Mercedes wrote: WOW! The FAA approved, flame resistant, custom sewn headliner for our Cessna was only $200! I didn't know that anything for an aircraft could be less expensive than the similar item for a car. On Wed, Dec 3, 2014 at 11:18 AM, Meade Dillon via Mercedes mercedes@okiebenz.com wrote: The headliner in my '95 sedan is sagging. New from Classic Center with MBCA discount is over $1000. ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com All posts are the result of individual contributors and as such, those individuals are responsible for the content of the post. The list owner has no control over the content of the messages of each contributor.
Re: [MBZ] 124 headliner repair ideas
Is it just fabric with the bows, or is it glued to a substrate of some sort? Later models had like a fiberglass panel that the fabric was glued to. Those are easy to do, as you just get it out of the car, remove the old fabric and glue new fabric on, then reinstall. Dan Sent from my iPad On Dec 3, 2014, at 12:18 PM, Meade Dillon via Mercedes mercedes@okiebenz.com wrote: The headliner in my '95 sedan is sagging. New from Classic Center with MBCA discount is over $1000. I'd like to know if anyone else has successfully repaired / re-glued a 124 headliner. I'm also open to trying other options, like removing the old headliner entirely, and installing some dynamat insulation, and then covering that somehow. -- - Max Charleston SC ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com All posts are the result of individual contributors and as such, those individuals are responsible for the content of the post. The list owner has no control over the content of the messages of each contributor. ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com All posts are the result of individual contributors and as such, those individuals are responsible for the content of the post. The list owner has no control over the content of the messages of each contributor.
Re: [MBZ] 124 headliner repair ideas
But you had better use the proper glue. You can guess how I know that. RB On 03/12/2014 12:04 PM, Dan Penoff via Mercedes wrote: Is it just fabric with the bows, or is it glued to a substrate of some sort? Later models had like a fiberglass panel that the fabric was glued to. Those are easy to do, as you just get it out of the car, remove the old fabric and glue new fabric on, then reinstall. Dan Sent from my iPad On Dec 3, 2014, at 12:18 PM, Meade Dillon via Mercedes mercedes@okiebenz.com wrote: The headliner in my '95 sedan is sagging. New from Classic Center with MBCA discount is over $1000. I'd like to know if anyone else has successfully repaired / re-glued a 124 headliner. I'm also open to trying other options, like removing the old headliner entirely, and installing some dynamat insulation, and then covering that somehow. -- - Max Charleston SC ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com All posts are the result of individual contributors and as such, those individuals are responsible for the content of the post. The list owner has no control over the content of the messages of each contributor. ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com All posts are the result of individual contributors and as such, those individuals are responsible for the content of the post. The list owner has no control over the content of the messages of each contributor. ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com All posts are the result of individual contributors and as such, those individuals are responsible for the content of the post. The list owner has no control over the content of the messages of each contributor.
Re: [MBZ] 124 headliner repair ideas
In 110, 111, 112, 114, 115, 116, 108, 123, 124, and 126 cars, some of which are over 40 years old, I have never seen this problem. Another reason I think pre-1990 MB are better. The headliner in my '95 sedan is sagging. New from Classic Center with MBCA discount is over $1000. I'd like to know if anyone else has successfully repaired / re-glued a 124 headliner. I'm also open to trying other options, like removing the old headliner entirely, and installing some dynamat insulation, and then covering that somehow. -- - Max Charleston SC ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com All posts are the result of individual contributors and as such, those individuals are responsible for the content of the post. The list owner has no control over the content of the messages of each contributor.
Re: [MBZ] 124 headliner repair ideas
I'm sure that there is a more appropriate place to buy auto headliner supplies, but this is the one I know about - http://www.aircraftspruce.com/search/search.php?s=headlinerx=0y=0 IIRC, the issue with old MB headliners was it shrinking and pulling out of the rear window molding. I'd glue it up back there (with the proper cement) unless you want a pristine W124, in which you'll be replacing it with the proper new from the classic center. On Wed, Dec 3, 2014 at 12:06 PM, Randy Bennell via Mercedes mercedes@okiebenz.com wrote: But you had better use the proper glue. -- OK Don NSA: The only branch of government that actually listens to US citizens! There are three kinds of men: The ones that learns by reading. The few who learn by observation. The rest of them have to pee on the electric fence for themselves. WILL ROGERS, *The Manly Wisdom of Will Rogers* 2013 F150, 18 mpg 2012 Passat TDI DSG, 44 mpg 1957 C182A, 12 mpg - but at 150 mph! ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com All posts are the result of individual contributors and as such, those individuals are responsible for the content of the post. The list owner has no control over the content of the messages of each contributor.
Re: [MBZ] 124 headliner repair ideas
I think that all but one of my 107, 115, 123, 124, and 126 cars did have the headliner falling down in front of the rear window. However, I never did anything about it. On Wed, Dec 3, 2014 at 12:11 PM, Curly McLain via Mercedes mercedes@okiebenz.com wrote: In 110, 111, 112, 114, 115, 116, 108, 123, 124, and 126 cars, some of which are over 40 years old, I have never seen this problem. Another reason I think pre-1990 MB are better. -- OK Don NSA: The only branch of government that actually listens to US citizens! There are three kinds of men: The ones that learns by reading. The few who learn by observation. The rest of them have to pee on the electric fence for themselves. WILL ROGERS, *The Manly Wisdom of Will Rogers* 2013 F150, 18 mpg 2012 Passat TDI DSG, 44 mpg 1957 C182A, 12 mpg - but at 150 mph! ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com All posts are the result of individual contributors and as such, those individuals are responsible for the content of the post. The list owner has no control over the content of the messages of each contributor.
Re: [MBZ] 124 headliner repair ideas
JoAnn Fabrics sells the fabric and the spray adhesive for it. Expensive stuff ($20/can) but is application specific and is highly regarded as the stuff to do it with. The fabric isn't that expensive, maybe $15/yard. Dan Sent from my iPad On Dec 3, 2014, at 1:06 PM, Randy Bennell rbenn...@bennell.ca wrote: But you had better use the proper glue. You can guess how I know that. RB On 03/12/2014 12:04 PM, Dan Penoff via Mercedes wrote: Is it just fabric with the bows, or is it glued to a substrate of some sort? Later models had like a fiberglass panel that the fabric was glued to. Those are easy to do, as you just get it out of the car, remove the old fabric and glue new fabric on, then reinstall. Dan Sent from my iPad On Dec 3, 2014, at 12:18 PM, Meade Dillon via Mercedes mercedes@okiebenz.com wrote: The headliner in my '95 sedan is sagging. New from Classic Center with MBCA discount is over $1000. I'd like to know if anyone else has successfully repaired / re-glued a 124 headliner. I'm also open to trying other options, like removing the old headliner entirely, and installing some dynamat insulation, and then covering that somehow. -- - Max Charleston SC ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com All posts are the result of individual contributors and as such, those individuals are responsible for the content of the post. The list owner has no control over the content of the messages of each contributor. ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com All posts are the result of individual contributors and as such, those individuals are responsible for the content of the post. The list owner has no control over the content of the messages of each contributor. ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com All posts are the result of individual contributors and as such, those individuals are responsible for the content of the post. The list owner has no control over the content of the messages of each contributor.
Re: [MBZ] 124 headliner repair ideas
Dan, The fabric is glued to a foam/fiber substrate piece, and almost all of that glue has let go. The fabric is really only held up around the edges now. I'm tempted to get some plastic fasteners of some kind to rivet/staple the thing back into place. I'm sure from an assembly standpoint, the single piece headliner is much faster to install that a fabric/bow stretched type of headliner (and time is money), but these don't age nearly as well. I'm skeptical that the old glue can be cleaned off without damaging either the fabric or the substrate, and I'm even more skeptical that I could neatly align and re-glue the fabric, and get it to stick into all the valleys on the contoured substrate. I'll bet it was originally applied using a large vacuum table. Looking at the service manual for the stretch-type headliner on the earlier cars, it doesn't look like it would be very easy to retrofit. The pictures on the CD version of the FSM are terrible - does anyone have a paper copy? -Max ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com All posts are the result of individual contributors and as such, those individuals are responsible for the content of the post. The list owner has no control over the content of the messages of each contributor.
Re: [MBZ] OT: Energy efficiency
On Wed, 3 Dec 2014 07:35:40 -0500 archer75--- via Mercedes mercedes@okiebenz.com wrote: On Tue, 2 Dec 2014 22:40:01 -0700 Craig via Mercedes mercedes@okiebenz.com wrote: When we replaced the 1959 single-pane, steel-frame casement windows in our house a few years ago, we got the windows from Marvin. The use of awning windows is interesting since there seemed to be few down here in Florida other than in RVs. The advantages of awning windows over casement windows seems obvious. hinged windows are less likely to stick than sliding windows and they would certainly keep rain out in the event of a sudden shower where other type windows won't and are probably easier to open in freezing weather. Casement windows are hinged windows, as well -- their hinge is along the side instead of on the top like awning windows. You are correct, though, that awning windows will do more for keeping rain out than casement windows. Awning windows, however, cannot keep rain out 100%; the triangular opening at the side when an awning window is open will allow rain infiltration In addition, awning windows are generally wider than they are high, whereas casement windows are generally higher than they are wide. Because of this, for a large viewing area, awning windows are best used in conjunction with a fixed glass window, and placed either above or below the fixed glass. When used this way, there is less ventilation area than if the entire area of fixed pane and awning window(s) were casement windows. E.g., when one of our living room casement windows is open, it provides about 12.4 ft^2 of ventilation area between 21 and 78 off the floor. Another area where casement windows do well is in bedrooms as egress windows (after the Cerro Grande fire in 2000, Los Alamos County got very sticky about egress from bedrooms). Craig ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com All posts are the result of individual contributors and as such, those individuals are responsible for the content of the post. The list owner has no control over the content of the messages of each contributor.
Re: [MBZ] Frankenheap
On Wed, 3 Dec 2014 08:11:24 -0800 Jim Cathey via Mercedes mercedes@okiebenz.com wrote: Two days ago I notice the heater fan wasn't working anymore. Yikes! This morning I had a chance to look at it, and it's merely a blown fuse. I was thrown by the fact that it wasn't working on the preheater either, which does not require the fuse. (But it only runs it on low, and the fan was a bit sticky with disuse. Once the car was able to run it at higher speeds the preheater function started working right too.) Just in time for the snow/ice they're predicting. It's been very cold here, but mostly very dry. I also found a split vacuum plug on the main line, that might explain the intermittent loss of boost. I got the torn headliner in the back glued back up, and the Christmas lights re-hung. 'tis the season! Congratulations! Craig ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com All posts are the result of individual contributors and as such, those individuals are responsible for the content of the post. The list owner has no control over the content of the messages of each contributor.
Re: [MBZ] OT: Energy efficiency
My awning windows were indeed installed below fixed glass picture windows, that I had double-paned in the manner previously described. Andrew A**ab*y worthy On Wed, Dec 3, 2014 at 2:18 PM, Craig via Mercedes mercedes@okiebenz.com wrote: On Wed, 3 Dec 2014 07:35:40 -0500 archer75--- via Mercedes mercedes@okiebenz.com wrote: On Tue, 2 Dec 2014 22:40:01 -0700 Craig via Mercedes mercedes@okiebenz.com wrote: When we replaced the 1959 single-pane, steel-frame casement windows in our house a few years ago, we got the windows from Marvin. The use of awning windows is interesting since there seemed to be few down here in Florida other than in RVs. The advantages of awning windows over casement windows seems obvious. hinged windows are less likely to stick than sliding windows and they would certainly keep rain out in the event of a sudden shower where other type windows won't and are probably easier to open in freezing weather. Casement windows are hinged windows, as well -- their hinge is along the side instead of on the top like awning windows. You are correct, though, that awning windows will do more for keeping rain out than casement windows. Awning windows, however, cannot keep rain out 100%; the triangular opening at the side when an awning window is open will allow rain infiltration In addition, awning windows are generally wider than they are high, whereas casement windows are generally higher than they are wide. Because of this, for a large viewing area, awning windows are best used in conjunction with a fixed glass window, and placed either above or below the fixed glass. When used this way, there is less ventilation area than if the entire area of fixed pane and awning window(s) were casement windows. E.g., when one of our living room casement windows is open, it provides about 12.4 ft^2 of ventilation area between 21 and 78 off the floor. Another area where casement windows do well is in bedrooms as egress windows (after the Cerro Grande fire in 2000, Los Alamos County got very sticky about egress from bedrooms). Craig ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com All posts are the result of individual contributors and as such, those individuals are responsible for the content of the post. The list owner has no control over the content of the messages of each contributor. ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com All posts are the result of individual contributors and as such, those individuals are responsible for the content of the post. The list owner has no control over the content of the messages of each contributor.
Re: [MBZ] How To Repair Maintain your Mercedes-Benz
On Tue, 2 Dec 2014 15:09:07 -0500 Meade Dillon via Mercedes mercedes@okiebenz.com wrote: Sadly that thread has the few remaining quotes of the late Doctor M.B. that are easily found on their website. His user name was deleted from all his posts, I have my suspicions. Why would anyone do that? Craig ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com All posts are the result of individual contributors and as such, those individuals are responsible for the content of the post. The list owner has no control over the content of the messages of each contributor.
[MBZ] Nanoporous Graphene - the miracle material made from CO2!
CO2 key to new, cheaper material for electric cars, wind turbines -- study Published: Wednesday, December 3, 2014 Researchers have developed a way to use carbon emissions to produce a green, low-cost energy storage device that can provide a rapid charge or discharge of power important for electric vehicles and wind turbines. The presence of CO2 is key to a new process developed by Oregon State University to create nanoporous graphene that is strong and has an electrical conductivity at least 10 times higher than the activated carbon now used to make commercial supercapacitors, according to the study published in the journal *Nano Energy*. There are other ways to fabricate nanoporous graphene, but this approach is faster, has little environmental impact and costs less, Xiulei David Ji, an assistant professor of chemistry in the OSU College of Science and lead author on the study, said in a statement. And the carbon source is carbon dioxide, which is a sustainable resource, to say the least, Ji said. This methodology uses abundant carbon dioxide while making energy storage products of significant value. Other chemists and engineers from OSU, Argonne National Laboratory, the University of South Florida and the National Energy Technology Laboratory in Albany, Ore., contributed to the effort, which was funded by OSU. Nanoporous graphene has an enormous surface level per gram of material and shows great promise to improve the efficiency and storage capability for supercapacitors, a type of energy storage that can store more energy than a typical capacitor -- but less than a battery -- and can charge and release power faster than a battery. There are many ways to use nanoporous graphene, but the costs of the material have remained prohibitively high. In addition to providing ways to smooth out power for wind turbines, capture wasted energy from braking or providing a burst of power for forklifts or consumer electronics, nanoporous graphene also has been shown to hold gas pollutants, work as environmental filters or be used in water treatment. Commercialization prospects for this approach are high as the materials involved are inexpensive and the process is relatively simple, Ji said. For the first time, magnesium and zinc metals were heated in the presence of a flow of carbon dioxide to make the nanoporous graphene, which otherwise is created using corrosive and toxic chemicals that would be challenging to use at large commercial levels, according to OSU. The metal oxides made in the process could also be recycled back into their metallic forms to increase the efficiency of the industrial process. ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com All posts are the result of individual contributors and as such, those individuals are responsible for the content of the post. The list owner has no control over the content of the messages of each contributor.
[MBZ] Scrap the Highway Trust Fund!
FYI. Scrap the Highway Trust Fund -- think tank Published: Wednesday, December 3, 2014 Get rid of the Highway Trust Fund and pay for transportation projects with money routed through the regular congressional appropriations process. That's one option explored in a new report that in essence describes the trust fund -- created almost 60 years ago to pay for construction of the now complete Interstate Highway System -- as ready for the budgetary scrap heap. As a viable mechanism for financing transportation needs, the trust fund has run its course, says the authors of the report by the Eno Center for Transportation, a nonpartisan think tank. It is a system that's going down, Joshua Schank, the center's president and CEO, added at a forum this morning at the National Press Club in Washington, D.C., marking the report's release. Flagging fuel tax receipts, for example, mean that the fund has needed more than $65 billion in general tax revenue since 2008, with the most recent bailout receiving congressional approval in July, one day before Transportation Department officials had planned to begin rationing reimbursements to states. That extension expires at the end of May, meaning a fresh crisis could arise just before the onset of the summer construction season. Much of the fund's revenue, moreover, is doled out under a formula geared to ensure that states get back close to what they contribute in fuel tax revenue, not whether the money's going to where it would provide the biggest returns. The fund currently ensures more than $50 billion annually for road, bridge and transit projects. Although abolishing the current framework may seem like a drastic step, it may not be as terrifying as the current road we're going on, Schank said. Subjecting road and transit funding to the yearly appropriations process could add more uncertainty, but he predicted that lawmakers would be reluctant to cut spending. The report also looks at how Canada, Japan and three other developed nations pay for surface transportation needs. While none uses the trust fund approach, per capita spending in all five is at least equal to -- or far exceeds -- what the United States spends. The report also looks at two other options: codifying the current hybrid system that mingles fuel tax receipts and general fund revenues; or matching transportation spending to available fuel tax revenue, either by cutting spending or raising taxes. At a separate event this morning at the Capitol, Reps. Earl Blumenauer (D-Ore.) and Tom Petri (R-Wis.) called on Congress to raise the federal gas tax, which has stood at 18.4 cents per gallon since 1993. Included at the news conference was a cutout of the late President Reagan, who used a 1982 Thanksgiving Day address to urge an increase at the time. We all use our roads, bridges, and rail, whether we're Republicans or Democrats, rural or urban, Blumenauer said, according to a news release. Reagan also knew that the gas tax is actually a user fee, which means that those who use the roads the most are the ones paying for them. The event marked the anniversary of the introduction of Blumenauer's bill H.R. 3636 http://www.eenews.net/bills/113/House/120114095412.pdf to boost the tax by 15 cents over three years and index it to inflation thereafter. The legislation, which never got a hearing in the House Ways and Means Committee, will die at the end of this term. Petri, who leads the House Transportation and Infrastructure Subcommittee on Highways and Transit, signed on as a co-sponsor this week but is retiring in January. Thus far, lawmakers have not even managed to open a formal discussion on how to shore up transportation financing. Following requests from Democrats, Ways and Means Chairman Dave Camp (R-Mich.) said in July he would schedule a hearing on a long-term solution for the trust fund woes. No hearing has thus far been held, and Camp is also retiring after this year. A spokeswoman did not reply to an email sent yesterday seeking comment on his plans. ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com All posts are the result of individual contributors and as such, those individuals are responsible for the content of the post. The list owner has no control over the content of the messages of each contributor.
Re: [MBZ] How To Repair Maintain your Mercedes-Benz
You would have to understand the mindset of the MBCA. It goes back many, many years. Dan On Dec 3, 2014, at 4:03 PM, Craig via Mercedes mercedes@okiebenz.com wrote: On Tue, 2 Dec 2014 15:09:07 -0500 Meade Dillon via Mercedes mercedes@okiebenz.com wrote: Sadly that thread has the few remaining quotes of the late Doctor M.B. that are easily found on their website. His user name was deleted from all his posts, I have my suspicions. Why would anyone do that? Craig ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com All posts are the result of individual contributors and as such, those individuals are responsible for the content of the post. The list owner has no control over the content of the messages of each contributor. ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com All posts are the result of individual contributors and as such, those individuals are responsible for the content of the post. The list owner has no control over the content of the messages of each contributor.
[MBZ] OT: Transcoding LPs to Digital
Listers: I know that some of you are audiophiles to some degree. So this is directed at you. We have an eclectic collection of LPs of all types of music. A while back I bought my wife (the main music lover) a cheap ION USB turntable. She already had a good quality component turntable, but I figures the USB interface would make it easy to transfer vinyl to digital. The results were so-so. Recently she gave away the vintage quality TT to our son, a recent convert to vinyl. In addition to creating a need for a quality component, this event also cleared a spot on our A-V components rack. After much research and comparison shopping, I bought an Audio-Technica AT-LP120-USB TT from Amazon. I received this unit yesterday, and have just converted my first LP to MP3 files today. My workflow was to use the most recent version of Audacity to convert my wife's old ELO Eldorado album to wav files on my HTPC through the USB interface. The HTPC has a 6-core AMD FX processor and an ASUS XONAR DG Headphone Amp PCI 5.1 Audio Card. I then transferred the files (one for each album side) to my ThinkPad T61 laptop running Sound Forge 10 (SF) and equipped with a Sound Blaster Audigy 2 ZS PMCMCIA card. I ran the SF audio cleaner module on the wav files, then saved them to MP3 files, all using the default settings in SF. I then saved the MP3s to the network HD, and am currently playing them back through the HTPC using VLC. All I can say is that the results are totally satisfactory! There is still a little bit of vinyl noise remaining after the SF cleanup, but it is significantly reduced from the original recordings. Considering that the cleanup took only a few seconds I am very impressed with the results. As to the turntable itself: After reading some negative reviews, I examined the platter and all other criticized items carefully. I could notice no warping of the platter, and all other parts of the turntable looked very good. As an amateur machinist, I do have a stand and dial indicator. I may gauge the runout of the platter just to see if there is any measurable warpage that I am unable to detect visually. I am favorably impressed with the quality and feature set considering the moderate cost of the unit. I have read that a DIY mat made of cork or rubber will improve the sound quality, and am pleased to see that the height of the tone arm is adjustable to accommodate a thicker mat. Since I am a rank beginner at doing this, I am curious if any of you have experience with this activity to share. Greg ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com All posts are the result of individual contributors and as such, those individuals are responsible for the content of the post. The list owner has no control over the content of the messages of each contributor.
Re: [MBZ] 124 headliner repair ideas
I have the same issue with the G. Here in LA there are headliner repair guys. Some people recover the backing with suede and reinstall. Some camie 313 or any high tack spray upholstery adhesive on both surfaces, wait a few seconds until it tacks up to touch, then smooth it down, spray another strip, repeat. Any upholstery shop can do it for you if you bring it in. You can also use foam backed cloth or glue foam to headliner then cloth to foam. Maybe use latex foam if you want sound deadening; expensive but good or maybe textilene. Original thickness. There was a good upholstery place in falls church in basement of strip mall when I lived in NoVa. They could handle it for sure. Karl On Dec 3, 2014 10:49 AM, Meade Dillon via Mercedes mercedes@okiebenz.com wrote: Dan, The fabric is glued to a foam/fiber substrate piece, and almost all of that glue has let go. The fabric is really only held up around the edges now. I'm tempted to get some plastic fasteners of some kind to rivet/staple the thing back into place. I'm sure from an assembly standpoint, the single piece headliner is much faster to install that a fabric/bow stretched type of headliner (and time is money), but these don't age nearly as well. I'm skeptical that the old glue can be cleaned off without damaging either the fabric or the substrate, and I'm even more skeptical that I could neatly align and re-glue the fabric, and get it to stick into all the valleys on the contoured substrate. I'll bet it was originally applied using a large vacuum table. Looking at the service manual for the stretch-type headliner on the earlier cars, it doesn't look like it would be very easy to retrofit. The pictures on the CD version of the FSM are terrible - does anyone have a paper copy? -Max ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com All posts are the result of individual contributors and as such, those individuals are responsible for the content of the post. The list owner has no control over the content of the messages of each contributor. ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com All posts are the result of individual contributors and as such, those individuals are responsible for the content of the post. The list owner has no control over the content of the messages of each contributor.
Re: [MBZ] OT: Solar Power in Medicine Hat, Alberta, which has more sunshine than Miami, FL
On Wed, 3 Dec 2014 22:14:32 + (UTC) Curt Raymond via Mercedes mercedes@okiebenz.com wrote: The price of solar power has come down by a factor of 3 in the last 10 years to about $1.50/watt if you buy panels from Amazon. If it continues at that rate in another 10 years we'll all be saying things like You'd be an idiot NOT to have solar power installed on your house. But that still begs the question, Where is the electricity going to come from at night? its not like grid electricity has been getting cheaper. It certainly has not been getting cheaper. Solar hot water is technically an alternative energy source and is very competitive. Payback usually considered about 3 years even in the frozen north. Solar hot water represents a different storage problem than electricity. It can be interrupted by clouds and night without the heat going instantly away. With large enough local storage, solar hot water and even direct solar heat can function with inputs during the day and have heat available 24 hours/day I'm going to investigate it for our house as soon as we get a new roof and heating/hot water system. I ran the math the other day and with $2.89/gal heating fuel its cheaper to heat with oil than electricity. Last winter at $0.11/kwh and $3.50/gal heating fuel it was cheaper to use an electric space heater. Both are still cheaper than $250/cord firewood but not cheaper than the 1/2 cord I got for free last summer. When we were at camp in November some of the sports left phones on the charger overnight and combined with the inverter ran down the battery in Dad's Jeep to the point it wouldn't start in the morning. In the spring I'm going to order a 100w solar panel with charge controller which will run about $190 on Amazon, pair it with a big marine battery like I used to use to preheat my 240D and we'll have enough power for our needs. The system is expandable up to 4 panels should we want more capacity down the road. -Curt That sounds like a good plan. Craig ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com All posts are the result of individual contributors and as such, those individuals are responsible for the content of the post. The list owner has no control over the content of the messages of each contributor.
Re: [MBZ] OT: Energy efficiency
On Wed, 3 Dec 2014 22:00:46 + (UTC) Curt Raymond via Mercedes mercedes@okiebenz.com wrote: We just replaced a failed dual pane casement window in our kitchen with a sliding vinyl. One other surprising advantage in a casement window is that the reflection in the window lets you look around the corner. In our case we could look down the driveway which is 90 degrees from (and otherwise invisible to) the kitchen. I'm thinking about installing an old motorcycle mirror to allow for that view. -Curt Yes, I forgot about that -- I have used it myself! Craig ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com All posts are the result of individual contributors and as such, those individuals are responsible for the content of the post. The list owner has no control over the content of the messages of each contributor.
Re: [MBZ] OT: Transcoding LPs to Digital
I have my 40yo Pioneer turntable (quite nice) hooked up to my 20yo Sony receiver and thence to my iMac. I occasionally rip a vinyl album using Audacity then export an MP3 to iTunes, which is sorta crappy way to do it but it works OK. I have some CDs I have made in the past using the same process but going to whatever the CD format was from Audacity, and converting to MP3 too for iTunes. You are doing it pretty much right if it works and sounds half decent. Audacity has a clean-up function now too I think, I recall using it once and it did improve the recording but did not eliminate all the pops. I think it has a track separation function too so you can separate the tracks easily and then name them for export. Been awhile since I have fooled with it, I always have to relearn how to do it all. I heard on the radio yesterday that vinyl sales are booming again, the hipsters have discovered turntables! --R On 12/3/14 6:39 PM, Greg Fiorentino via Mercedes wrote: Listers: I know that some of you are audiophiles to some degree. So this is directed at you. We have an eclectic collection of LPs of all types of music. A while back I bought my wife (the main music lover) a cheap ION USB turntable. She already had a good quality component turntable, but I figures the USB interface would make it easy to transfer vinyl to digital. The results were so-so. Recently she gave away the vintage quality TT to our son, a recent convert to vinyl. In addition to creating a need for a quality component, this event also cleared a spot on our A-V components rack. After much research and comparison shopping, I bought an Audio-Technica AT-LP120-USB TT from Amazon. I received this unit yesterday, and have just converted my first LP to MP3 files today. My workflow was to use the most recent version of Audacity to convert my wife's old ELO Eldorado album to wav files on my HTPC through the USB interface. The HTPC has a 6-core AMD FX processor and an ASUS XONAR DG Headphone Amp PCI 5.1 Audio Card. I then transferred the files (one for each album side) to my ThinkPad T61 laptop running Sound Forge 10 (SF) and equipped with a Sound Blaster Audigy 2 ZS PMCMCIA card. I ran the SF audio cleaner module on the wav files, then saved them to MP3 files, all using the default settings in SF. I then saved the MP3s to the network HD, and am currently playing them back through the HTPC using VLC. All I can say is that the results are totally satisfactory! There is still a little bit of vinyl noise remaining after the SF cleanup, but it is significantly reduced from the original recordings. Considering that the cleanup took only a few seconds I am very impressed with the results. As to the turntable itself: After reading some negative reviews, I examined the platter and all other criticized items carefully. I could notice no warping of the platter, and all other parts of the turntable looked very good. As an amateur machinist, I do have a stand and dial indicator. I may gauge the runout of the platter just to see if there is any measurable warpage that I am unable to detect visually. I am favorably impressed with the quality and feature set considering the moderate cost of the unit. I have read that a DIY mat made of cork or rubber will improve the sound quality, and am pleased to see that the height of the tone arm is adjustable to accommodate a thicker mat. Since I am a rank beginner at doing this, I am curious if any of you have experience with this activity to share. Greg ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com All posts are the result of individual contributors and as such, those individuals are responsible for the content of the post. The list owner has no control over the content of the messages of each contributor. ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com All posts are the result of individual contributors and as such, those individuals are responsible for the content of the post. The list owner has no control over the content of the messages of each contributor.
Re: [MBZ] How To Repair Maintain your Mercedes-Benz
On Wed, 03 Dec 2014 18:16:34 -0500 Dan Penoff via Mercedes mercedes@okiebenz.com wrote: You would have to understand the mindset of the MBCA. It goes back many, many years. Oh. I take it the mindset is not healthy. Craig On Dec 3, 2014, at 4:03 PM, Craig via Mercedes mercedes@okiebenz.com wrote: On Tue, 2 Dec 2014 15:09:07 -0500 Meade Dillon via Mercedes mercedes@okiebenz.com wrote: Sadly that thread has the few remaining quotes of the late Doctor M.B. that are easily found on their website. His user name was deleted from all his posts, I have my suspicions. Why would anyone do that? Craig ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com All posts are the result of individual contributors and as such, those individuals are responsible for the content of the post. The list owner has no control over the content of the messages of each contributor. ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com All posts are the result of individual contributors and as such, those individuals are responsible for the content of the post. The list owner has no control over the content of the messages of each contributor. Craig -- Present:'95 E320Sebastian 131 kmi '82 240D/3.0Bluebell 267 kmi (need to fix leaking oil pressure gauge) '89 Chevrolet G20 Beauville Van (affectionately dubbed the BRV, Big Red Van) Past: '94 E420Oskar 127 kmi '86 190E/2.3 '72 220/8 '64 190Dc Emma '72 220D/8 Herman 186 kmi ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com All posts are the result of individual contributors and as such, those individuals are responsible for the content of the post. The list owner has no control over the content of the messages of each contributor.
Re: [MBZ] OT: Transcoding LPs to Digital
I don't, other than to say that most of the music I currently have in electronic form has been transcoded from analog to FLAC. I can hear the difference between MP3 and FLAC formats, and my hearing is pretty lousy in one ear. I used to have a pretty big vintage setup with a Fisher 400, Soundcraftsman preamp, tuner and amp, Dual turntable and a pair of Magnepan IIa planar speakers. When we moved to FL I lost the space necessary to really use the Manepans, so I sold off the system. Plenty of online resources on the subject, for sure. Dan Sent from my iPad On Dec 3, 2014, at 6:39 PM, Greg Fiorentino via Mercedes mercedes@okiebenz.com wrote: Listers: I know that some of you are audiophiles to some degree. So this is directed at you. We have an eclectic collection of LPs of all types of music. A while back I bought my wife (the main music lover) a cheap ION USB turntable. She already had a good quality component turntable, but I figures the USB interface would make it easy to transfer vinyl to digital. The results were so-so. Recently she gave away the vintage quality TT to our son, a recent convert to vinyl. In addition to creating a need for a quality component, this event also cleared a spot on our A-V components rack. After much research and comparison shopping, I bought an Audio-Technica AT-LP120-USB TT from Amazon. I received this unit yesterday, and have just converted my first LP to MP3 files today. My workflow was to use the most recent version of Audacity to convert my wife's old ELO Eldorado album to wav files on my HTPC through the USB interface. The HTPC has a 6-core AMD FX processor and an ASUS XONAR DG Headphone Amp PCI 5.1 Audio Card. I then transferred the files (one for each album side) to my ThinkPad T61 laptop running Sound Forge 10 (SF) and equipped with a Sound Blaster Audigy 2 ZS PMCMCIA card. I ran the SF audio cleaner module on the wav files, then saved them to MP3 files, all using the default settings in SF. I then saved the MP3s to the network HD, and am currently playing them back through the HTPC using VLC. All I can say is that the results are totally satisfactory! There is still a little bit of vinyl noise remaining after the SF cleanup, but it is significantly reduced from the original recordings. Considering that the cleanup took only a few seconds I am very impressed with the results. As to the turntable itself: After reading some negative reviews, I examined the platter and all other criticized items carefully. I could notice no warping of the platter, and all other parts of the turntable looked very good. As an amateur machinist, I do have a stand and dial indicator. I may gauge the runout of the platter just to see if there is any measurable warpage that I am unable to detect visually. I am favorably impressed with the quality and feature set considering the moderate cost of the unit. I have read that a DIY mat made of cork or rubber will improve the sound quality, and am pleased to see that the height of the tone arm is adjustable to accommodate a thicker mat. Since I am a rank beginner at doing this, I am curious if any of you have experience with this activity to share. Greg ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com All posts are the result of individual contributors and as such, those individuals are responsible for the content of the post. The list owner has no control over the content of the messages of each contributor. ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com All posts are the result of individual contributors and as such, those individuals are responsible for the content of the post. The list owner has no control over the content of the messages of each contributor.
Re: [MBZ] OT: Transcoding LPs to Digital
Original Message From: Greg Fiorentino via Mercedes Sent: Wednesday, December 3, 2014 5:40 PM To: 'Mercedes Discussion List' Reply To: Greg Fiorentino Subject: [MBZ] OT: Transcoding LPs to Digital Since I am a rank beginner at doing this, I am curious if any of you have experience with this activity to share. I've never done it, but it sounds like you have done it correctly. I would add that it what format you convert to depends on where you are going to listen to the digital files. For archival purposes (and highest quality) I would store them as FLAC files using EAC. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/FLAC https://xiph.org/flac/ http://www.exactaudiocopy.de/ http://www.hydrogenaud.io/forums/index.php?showtopic=106539 http://www.audiokarma.org/forums/archive/index.php/t-494047.html For what it's worth, Sansa portable audio players, and BlackBerry phones are able to play FLAC files. (Another excellent reason to ditch Android and Apple). In a car mp3 files would provide acceptable listening. Rick Sent from my BlackBerry Z10 ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com All posts are the result of individual contributors and as such, those individuals are responsible for the content of the post. The list owner has no control over the content of the messages of each contributor.
Re: [MBZ] 124 headliner repair ideas
On Wed, 03 Dec 2014 18:13:25 -0500 Mitch Haley via Mercedes mercedes@okiebenz.com wrote: Dan Penoff via Mercedes wrote: Is it just fabric with the bows, or is it glued to a substrate of some sort? Later models had like a fiberglass panel that the fabric was glued to. Those are easy to do, as you just get it out of the car, remove the old fabric and glue new fabric on, then reinstall. That's how it was with Saab 99s. Quite a feat to get the headliner out a door without actually removing said door (2 door models). On the four door models, you simply removed the windscreen and the headliner slid right out the front. Once the fabric comes loose from the foam backing (due to the foam crumbling), the only cure is to take it out, flip it upside down, clean off all the crumby foam, and glue new foamy fabric to the pan. Mitch. . Do you know what's holding up the headliner in a 123 sedan, Mitch? The headliner in my '83 300D is sagging in one spot and it feels like a bow has either come unfastened on both ends or some sort of attachment above and I don't see any way to fix it besides taking down the headliner at least part way. The bow seems to have flipped over 90 degrees, so if it is held at the ends, it would seem the headliner could be loosened on both side and the bow reattached in the upright position some way. Other than that the headliner is in good shape and it would be a shame to replace it. I replaced a headliner with bows in an old Chevy and it was not a quick or easy job to say the least. Gerry ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com All posts are the result of individual contributors and as such, those individuals are responsible for the content of the post. The list owner has no control over the content of the messages of each contributor.
Re: [MBZ] How To Repair Maintain your Mercedes-Benz
On Wed, 03 Dec 2014 18:16:34 -0500 Dan Penoff via Mercedes mercedes@okiebenz.com wrote: You would have to understand the mindset of the MBCA. It goes back many, many years. Oh. I take it the mindset is not healthy. It was the same group that ran out Kathy Kennel the original MBCA listmom (where the term listmom originated) and former MBCA Pres. I've had no contact with anyone in MBCA since then other than for contact with some former MBCA pres. exchanging Christmas cards and the like. The old group like new MBs and old, and was tolerant of those who keep em running. The new group was all about how much money they could flash, so it was new cars, and $500,000 and over new cars. At an MBCA national driving event, one of that group, watched as his wife totaled a new MB on the track, and later they were laughing about it. Destroying the car meant nothing to them. Just like throwing out a used kleenex.This was before they were part of the group that took over MBCA. It was a bloody takeover. They fired pretty much everyone on the staff. Exec. Director, Publisher, Editor etc. I did not like or approve of the changes. Kathy was a decent lady who did a lot for the club. She was not rich, and didn't drive a new MB. I believe hers was a 71, so it was not acceptable to the money crowd. Not old enough to be classic and worth over $500,000 and not new. ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com All posts are the result of individual contributors and as such, those individuals are responsible for the content of the post. The list owner has no control over the content of the messages of each contributor.
Re: [MBZ] OT: Transcoding LPs to Digital
The EAC would be used in place of Audacity? Original Message From: Greg Fiorentino via Mercedes Sent: Wednesday, December 3, 2014 5:40 PM To: 'Mercedes Discussion List' Reply To: Greg Fiorentino Subject: [MBZ] OT: Transcoding LPs to Digital Since I am a rank beginner at doing this, I am curious if any of you have experience with this activity to share. I've never done it, but it sounds like you have done it correctly. I would add that it what format you convert to depends on where you are going to listen to the digital files. For archival purposes (and highest quality) I would store them as FLAC files using EAC. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/FLAC https://xiph.org/flac/ http://www.exactaudiocopy.de/ http://www.hydrogenaud.io/forums/index.php?showtopic=106539 http://www.audiokarma.org/forums/archive/index.php/t-494047.html For what it's worth, Sansa portable audio players, and BlackBerry phones are able to play FLAC files. (Another excellent reason to ditch Android and Apple). In a car mp3 files would provide acceptable listening. Rick Sent from my BlackBerry Z10 ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com All posts are the result of individual contributors and as such, those individuals are responsible for the content of the post. The list owner has no control over the content of the messages of each contributor.
Re: [MBZ] Nanoporous Graphene - the miracle material made from CO2!
Cool. I wonder what they are using as an insulator between the two plates of the capacitor? On Wed, Dec 3, 2014 at 3:47 PM, Andrew Strasfogel via Mercedes mercedes@okiebenz.com wrote: CO2 key to new, cheaper material for electric cars, wind turbines -- study Published: Wednesday, December 3, 2014 Researchers have developed a way to use carbon emissions to produce a green, low-cost energy storage device that can provide a rapid charge or discharge of power important for electric vehicles and wind turbines. The presence of CO2 is key to a new process developed by Oregon State University to create nanoporous graphene that is strong and has an electrical conductivity at least 10 times higher than the activated carbon now used to make commercial supercapacitors, according to the study published in the journal *Nano Energy*. There are other ways to fabricate nanoporous graphene, but this approach is faster, has little environmental impact and costs less, Xiulei David Ji, an assistant professor of chemistry in the OSU College of Science and lead author on the study, said in a statement. And the carbon source is carbon dioxide, which is a sustainable resource, to say the least, Ji said. This methodology uses abundant carbon dioxide while making energy storage products of significant value. Other chemists and engineers from OSU, Argonne National Laboratory, the University of South Florida and the National Energy Technology Laboratory in Albany, Ore., contributed to the effort, which was funded by OSU. Nanoporous graphene has an enormous surface level per gram of material and shows great promise to improve the efficiency and storage capability for supercapacitors, a type of energy storage that can store more energy than a typical capacitor -- but less than a battery -- and can charge and release power faster than a battery. There are many ways to use nanoporous graphene, but the costs of the material have remained prohibitively high. In addition to providing ways to smooth out power for wind turbines, capture wasted energy from braking or providing a burst of power for forklifts or consumer electronics, nanoporous graphene also has been shown to hold gas pollutants, work as environmental filters or be used in water treatment. Commercialization prospects for this approach are high as the materials involved are inexpensive and the process is relatively simple, Ji said. For the first time, magnesium and zinc metals were heated in the presence of a flow of carbon dioxide to make the nanoporous graphene, which otherwise is created using corrosive and toxic chemicals that would be challenging to use at large commercial levels, according to OSU. The metal oxides made in the process could also be recycled back into their metallic forms to increase the efficiency of the industrial process. ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com All posts are the result of individual contributors and as such, those individuals are responsible for the content of the post. The list owner has no control over the content of the messages of each contributor. -- OK Don NSA: The only branch of government that actually listens to US citizens! There are three kinds of men: The ones that learns by reading. The few who learn by observation. The rest of them have to pee on the electric fence for themselves. WILL ROGERS, *The Manly Wisdom of Will Rogers* 2013 F150, 18 mpg 2012 Passat TDI DSG, 44 mpg 1957 C182A, 12 mpg - but at 150 mph! ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com All posts are the result of individual contributors and as such, those individuals are responsible for the content of the post. The list owner has no control over the content of the messages of each contributor.
Re: [MBZ] How To Repair Maintain your Mercedes-Benz
What’s really sad is that they have approached me about rejoining despite having been banned due to my participation with Kathy and others back in the day. I was asked if I would be interested in rejoining the local chapter to help revive it. My response has been to quote Groucho Marx: “I don’t care to belong to any club that would have me as a member.” Its downfall, like many others, is mainly due to lack of attendance and the chapter becoming an over 65 social club rather than a car club. It’s not member friendly in the slightest. The group that controls it has meetings close to them, at only one of three dealerships in the immediate area, and has almost nothing in the way of car related events. They had one “road rally” this year, everything else was a drive to a restaurant or point of interest. No tech stuff, no dealer meetings, nada. Understand that the Tampa Bay area is pretty big. Over in St. Pete, nearly an hour from me, is Pinellas County, where most of the officers live. Every meeting and event, if not outside the area, is in Pinellas County. There is a dealer in Tampa that would gladly participate, but the chapter officers don’t want to come to Tampa. For that matter, they pretty much ignore anyone outside of Pinellas County. Years ago when I belonged to the local chapter, I suggested we alternate meetings or events between St. Pete and Tampa. I even got the Tampa dealer to agree to host a tech talk event. You would have thought I stood up in the middle of the room and started to shout profanities at the top of my lungs. That’s when I told Scott Suits (still the regional director today) that I was done. Ffffrank Barrett was central to the demise of the club as we knew it as well, not just the asshat members. I am awaiting the notice of his death so I can travel to Colorado Springs and pee on his grave. There are a couple of former members who will be joining me. It was something I promised Kathy I would do, and I will keep my promise. Dan On Dec 3, 2014, at 7:40 PM, Curly McLain via Mercedes mercedes@okiebenz.com wrote: It was the same group that ran out Kathy Kennel the original MBCA listmom (where the term listmom originated) and former MBCA Pres. I've had no contact with anyone in MBCA since then other than for contact with some former MBCA pres. exchanging Christmas cards and the like. The old group like new MBs and old, and was tolerant of those who keep em running. The new group was all about how much money they could flash, so it was new cars, and $500,000 and over new cars. At an MBCA national driving event, one of that group, watched as his wife totaled a new MB on the track, and later they were laughing about it. Destroying the car meant nothing to them. Just like throwing out a used kleenex.This was before they were part of the group that took over MBCA. It was a bloody takeover. They fired pretty much everyone on the staff. Exec. Director, Publisher, Editor etc. I did not like or approve of the changes. Kathy was a decent lady who did a lot for the club. She was not rich, and didn't drive a new MB. I believe hers was a 71, so it was not acceptable to the money crowd. Not old enough to be classic and worth over $500,000 and not new. ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com All posts are the result of individual contributors and as such, those individuals are responsible for the content of the post. The list owner has no control over the content of the messages of each contributor. ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com All posts are the result of individual contributors and as such, those individuals are responsible for the content of the post. The list owner has no control over the content of the messages of each contributor.
Re: [MBZ] OT: Solar Power in Medicine Hat, Alberta, which has more sunshine than Miami, FL
None of these alternative solutions are an absolute replacement for the existing grid, but supplemental. The grid is challenged to meet the demand during the day (sunlight) but has excess capacity at night. Reduce the demand on the grid during the day with solar so it can be sized to meet the demand at night - then it will be more efficient, and costs might at least stop rising, if not come down a little.. On Wed, Dec 3, 2014 at 6:04 PM, Craig via Mercedes mercedes@okiebenz.com wrote: On Wed, 3 Dec 2014 22:14:32 + (UTC) Curt Raymond via Mercedes mercedes@okiebenz.com wrote: The price of solar power has come down by a factor of 3 in the last 10 years to about $1.50/watt if you buy panels from Amazon. If it continues at that rate in another 10 years we'll all be saying things like You'd be an idiot NOT to have solar power installed on your house. But that still begs the question, Where is the electricity going to come from at night? -- OK Don NSA: The only branch of government that actually listens to US citizens! There are three kinds of men: The ones that learns by reading. The few who learn by observation. The rest of them have to pee on the electric fence for themselves. WILL ROGERS, *The Manly Wisdom of Will Rogers* 2013 F150, 18 mpg 2012 Passat TDI DSG, 44 mpg 1957 C182A, 12 mpg - but at 150 mph! ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com All posts are the result of individual contributors and as such, those individuals are responsible for the content of the post. The list owner has no control over the content of the messages of each contributor.
Re: [MBZ] OT: Transcoding LPs to Digital
Thanks for the FLAC tip, as Rick also mentioned. I kind of knew that MP3 was not the best compression algorithm, but it just was the standard that I thought of. Sound Forge (SF) also can export FLAC files. Doing more research I see that I can use other commands in SF to clean up the pops and other vinyl surface noise. There is a plugin from iZotope that is supposed to do an even better job. There will be a learning curve here for sure! Greg -Original Message- From: Mercedes [mailto:mercedes-boun...@okiebenz.com] On Behalf Of Dan Penoff via Mercedes Sent: Wednesday, December 03, 2014 4:06 PM To: Mercedes Discussion List Subject: Re: [MBZ] OT: Transcoding LPs to Digital I don't, other than to say that most of the music I currently have in electronic form has been transcoded from analog to FLAC. I can hear the difference between MP3 and FLAC formats, and my hearing is pretty lousy in one ear. ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com All posts are the result of individual contributors and as such, those individuals are responsible for the content of the post. The list owner has no control over the content of the messages of each contributor.
Re: [MBZ] 124 headliner repair ideas
I saw some headliner re-attachment thingies at NAPA yesterday - they are little barbed tacks that you stick up into the foam substrate and holds the fabric up. I think they wanted them spaced every two inches or so. Yes, they will look tacky, as they only come in one color and it's not likely to match your headliner, but will look better than a headliner that is falling down. I had never heard of a headliner that was glued to a foam substrate, so didn't pay much attention to them, though it did make me think that that manufacturing technique must not result in a long-term product, since a solution to the problem they created is already available. On Wed, Dec 3, 2014 at 12:49 PM, Meade Dillon via Mercedes mercedes@okiebenz.com wrote: Dan, The fabric is glued to a foam/fiber substrate piece, and almost all of that glue has let go. The fabric is really only held up around the edges now. I'm tempted to get some plastic fasteners of some kind to rivet/staple the thing back into place. -- OK Don NSA: The only branch of government that actually listens to US citizens! There are three kinds of men: The ones that learns by reading. The few who learn by observation. The rest of them have to pee on the electric fence for themselves. WILL ROGERS, *The Manly Wisdom of Will Rogers* 2013 F150, 18 mpg 2012 Passat TDI DSG, 44 mpg 1957 C182A, 12 mpg - but at 150 mph! ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com All posts are the result of individual contributors and as such, those individuals are responsible for the content of the post. The list owner has no control over the content of the messages of each contributor.
Re: [MBZ] OT: Transcoding LPs to Digital
Keep us informed of your progress - I have a bunch of 78's to digitize, as well as some LPs, but haven't gotten started yet. Perhaps someday when I get bored . . . On Wed, Dec 3, 2014 at 8:28 PM, Greg Fiorentino via Mercedes mercedes@okiebenz.com wrote: Thanks for the FLAC tip, as Rick also mentioned. I kind of knew that MP3 was not the best compression algorithm, but it just was the standard that I thought of. Sound Forge (SF) also can export FLAC files. Doing more research I see that I can use other commands in SF to clean up the pops and other vinyl surface noise. There is a plugin from iZotope that is supposed to do an even better job. There will be a learning curve here for sure! Greg -- OK Don NSA: The only branch of government that actually listens to US citizens! There are three kinds of men: The ones that learns by reading. The few who learn by observation. The rest of them have to pee on the electric fence for themselves. WILL ROGERS, *The Manly Wisdom of Will Rogers* 2013 F150, 18 mpg 2012 Passat TDI DSG, 44 mpg 1957 C182A, 12 mpg - but at 150 mph! ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com All posts are the result of individual contributors and as such, those individuals are responsible for the content of the post. The list owner has no control over the content of the messages of each contributor.
Re: [MBZ] How To Repair Maintain your Mercedes-Benz
Dan Penoff via Mercedes mercedes@okiebenz.com wrote: What’s really sad is that they have approached me about rejoining despite having been banned due to my participation with Kathy and others back in the day. I was asked if I would be interested in rejoining the local chapter to help revive it. My response has been to quote Groucho Marx: “I don’t care to belong to any club that would have me as a member.” I tried that line on a pair of Jehovahs Witnesses. It worked like a charm and they haven't been back. Gerry ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com All posts are the result of individual contributors and as such, those individuals are responsible for the content of the post. The list owner has no control over the content of the messages of each contributor.
Re: [MBZ] How To Repair Maintain your Mercedes-Benz
+1 MBCA is being quietly worn down and becoming superfluous for the real members with real cars. The new car folks are running off the more social sort who held knowledge and wanted to assist others. The current batch are all into paying retail, having the dealer do any and all work, and if you do have an old car, it must be either in process of complete restoration, or having parts collected while it gathers dust in the garage clay On Dec 3, 2014, at 4:40 PM, Curly McLain via Mercedes wrote: On Wed, 03 Dec 2014 18:16:34 -0500 Dan Penoff via Mercedes mercedes@okiebenz.com wrote: You would have to understand the mindset of the MBCA. It goes back many, many years. Oh. I take it the mindset is not healthy. It was the same group that ran out Kathy Kennel the original MBCA listmom (where the term listmom originated) and former MBCA Pres. I've had no contact with anyone in MBCA since then other than for contact with some former MBCA pres. exchanging Christmas cards and the like. The old group like new MBs and old, and was tolerant of those who keep em running. The new group was all about how much money they could flash, so it was new cars, and $500,000 and over new cars. At an MBCA national driving event, one of that group, watched as his wife totaled a new MB on the track, and later they were laughing about it. Destroying the car meant nothing to them. Just like throwing out a used kleenex.This was before they were part of the group that took over MBCA. It was a bloody takeover. They fired pretty much everyone on the staff. Exec. Director, Publisher, Editor etc. I did not like or approve of the changes. Kathy was a decent lady who did a lot for the club. She was not rich, and didn't drive a new MB. I believe hers was a 71, so it was not acceptable to the money crowd. Not old enough to be classic and worth over $500,000 and not new. ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com All posts are the result of individual contributors and as such, those individuals are responsible for the content of the post. The list owner has no control over the content of the messages of each contributor.
Re: [MBZ] OT: Solar Power in Medicine Hat, Alberta, which has more sunshine than Miami, FL
Exactly. No one thing can replace hydrocarbon based fuel by itself. It'll take a blended approach of alternatives, conservation and a lesser supply of hydrocarbons to keep things going. Just repeating over and over alternative energy doesn't work doesn't help and isn't productive. Not long ago on a snowmoble forum I read occasionally a guy said electric cars will never take off which seems to me like somebody wearing blinders. I see electric cars every week if not every day. Electric cars are here, get used to the idea. Considering a decade ago there were none if you saw one for every thousand cars thats a huge leap... Curt Sent from Yahoo Mail on Android ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com All posts are the result of individual contributors and as such, those individuals are responsible for the content of the post. The list owner has no control over the content of the messages of each contributor.
Re: [MBZ] OT: Transcoding LPs to Digital
Original Message From: Curly McLain via Mercedes Sent: Wednesday, December 3, 2014 7:53 PM To: Mercedes Discussion List Reply To: Curly McLain Subject: Re: [MBZ] OT: Transcoding LPs to Digital The EAC would be used in place of Audacity? In addition to. Audacity is used to create wav (analog) files from the vinyl records. EAC (Exact Audio Copy) is used to convert the wav files to mp3, flac, etc. digital files. I have used EAC for converting (ripping) cd's to digital form. I have not used it to convert wav files from vinyl, but I am pretty sure it can be done. Currently Greg is using Sound Forge software to convert the analog files to digital. I like EAC because it was created by a German. :) And it works very well. Some audiophiles insist on have cue sheets to go along with their rips, and EAC will create those as well. If I wasn't hard of hearing, I would be more into the audiophile stuff. My range of hearing is somewhat limited, and I have tinnitus. Rick Huh? what? Why does everyone mumble? ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com All posts are the result of individual contributors and as such, those individuals are responsible for the content of the post. The list owner has no control over the content of the messages of each contributor.
Re: [MBZ] OT: Transcoding LPs to Digital
I also use EAC for ripping CDs. Very tight and feature-rich. Greg -Original Message- From: Mercedes [mailto:mercedes-boun...@okiebenz.com] On Behalf Of Rick Knoble via Mercedes Sent: Wednesday, December 03, 2014 7:14 PM To: Mercedes Discussion List Subject: Re: [MBZ] OT: Transcoding LPs to Digital Original Message From: Curly McLain via Mercedes Sent: Wednesday, December 3, 2014 7:53 PM To: Mercedes Discussion List Reply To: Curly McLain Subject: Re: [MBZ] OT: Transcoding LPs to Digital The EAC would be used in place of Audacity? In addition to. Audacity is used to create wav (analog) files from the vinyl records. EAC (Exact Audio Copy) is used to convert the wav files to mp3, flac, etc. digital files. I have used EAC for converting (ripping) cd's to digital form. I have not used it to convert wav files from vinyl, but I am pretty sure it can be done. Currently Greg is using Sound Forge software to convert the analog files to digital. I like EAC because it was created by a German. :) And it works very well. Some audiophiles insist on have cue sheets to go along with their rips, and EAC will create those as well. If I wasn't hard of hearing, I would be more into the audiophile stuff. My range of hearing is somewhat limited, and I have tinnitus. Rick Huh? what? Why does everyone mumble? ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com All posts are the result of individual contributors and as such, those individuals are responsible for the content of the post. The list owner has no control over the content of the messages of each contributor. ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com All posts are the result of individual contributors and as such, those individuals are responsible for the content of the post. The list owner has no control over the content of the messages of each contributor.
Re: [MBZ] 124 headliner repair ideas
Thanks Don, may not be an elegant solution but effective and frugal. I wonder if I could cover the heads with something so they blend in... Max Dillon, Charleston SC On Dec 3, 2014 9:34 PM, OK Don okd...@gmail.com wrote: I saw some headliner re-attachment thingies at NAPA yesterday - they are little barbed tacks that you stick up into the foam substrate and holds the fabric up. I think they wanted them spaced every two inches or so. Yes, they will look tacky, as they only come in one color and it's not likely to match your headliner, but will look better than a headliner that is falling down. I had never heard of a headliner that was glued to a foam substrate, so didn't pay much attention to them, though it did make me think that that manufacturing technique must not result in a long-term product, since a solution to the problem they created is already available. ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com All posts are the result of individual contributors and as such, those individuals are responsible for the content of the post. The list owner has no control over the content of the messages of each contributor.
Re: [MBZ] OT: Transcoding LPs to Digital
Thanks for the explanation. I have to do this someday. I want to sell the vinyl while it is still worth something. Original Message From: Curly McLain via Mercedes Sent: Wednesday, December 3, 2014 7:53 PM To: Mercedes Discussion List Reply To: Curly McLain Subject: Re: [MBZ] OT: Transcoding LPs to Digital The EAC would be used in place of Audacity? In addition to. Audacity is used to create wav (analog) files from the vinyl records. EAC (Exact Audio Copy) is used to convert the wav files to mp3, flac, etc. digital files. I have used EAC for converting (ripping) cd's to digital form. I have not used it to convert wav files from vinyl, but I am pretty sure it can be done. Currently Greg is using Sound Forge software to convert the analog files to digital. I like EAC because it was created by a German. :) And it works very well. Some audiophiles insist on have cue sheets to go along with their rips, and EAC will create those as well. If I wasn't hard of hearing, I would be more into the audiophile stuff. My range of hearing is somewhat limited, and I have tinnitus. Rick Huh? what? Why does everyone mumble? ___ ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com All posts are the result of individual contributors and as such, those individuals are responsible for the content of the post. The list owner has no control over the content of the messages of each contributor.
Re: [MBZ] How To Repair Maintain your Mercedes-Benz
Curly, You bring back memories. I hadn't thought about the old days for quite a while. I remember Kathy very well and, as I recall, Kathy wasn't treated all that well back then. Regards, Addison '75 450SLC back then…. ;-) On Dec 3, 2014, Curly McLain wrote: From: Curly McLain 126die...@gmail.com Subject: Re: [MBZ] How To Repair Maintain your Mercedes-Benz Date: December 3, 2014 4:40:13 PM PST To: Craig diese...@pisquared.net, Mercedes Discussion List mercedes@okiebenz.com On Wed, 03 Dec 2014 18:16:34 -0500 Dan Penoff via Mercedes mercedes@okiebenz.com wrote: You would have to understand the mindset of the MBCA. It goes back many, many years. Oh. I take it the mindset is not healthy. It was the same group that ran out Kathy Kennel the original MBCA listmom (where the term listmom originated) and former MBCA Pres. I've had no contact with anyone in MBCA since then other than for contact with some former MBCA pres. exchanging Christmas cards and the like. The old group like new MBs and old, and was tolerant of those who keep em running. The new group was all about how much money they could flash, so it was new cars, and $500,000 and over new cars. At an MBCA national driving event, one of that group, watched as his wife totaled a new MB on the track, and later they were laughing about it. Destroying the car meant nothing to them. Just like throwing out a used kleenex.This was before they were part of the group that took over MBCA. It was a bloody takeover. They fired pretty much everyone on the staff. Exec. Director, Publisher, Editor etc. I did not like or approve of the changes. Kathy was a decent lady who did a lot for the club. She was not rich, and didn't drive a new MB. I believe hers was a 71, so it was not acceptable to the money crowd. Not old enough to be classic and worth over $500,000 and not new. ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com All posts are the result of individual contributors and as such, those individuals are responsible for the content of the post. The list owner has no control over the content of the messages of each contributor.
Re: [MBZ] How To Repair Maintain your Mercedes-Benz
Curly, You bring back memories. I hadn't thought about the old days for quite a while. I remember Kathy very well and, as I recall, Kathy wasn't treated all that well back then. Regards, Addison '75 450SLC back then. ;-) Kathy was our RVP when we received the charter for our new section. She came out to present the charter. I supported her for Prez, and later for listmom. I talked to her often during the section formation process, and developing bylaws. She was a friend, and she put her heart and soul into MBCA and was rewarded by being kicked by the snobs. I tried hard to have section events that covered all the membership. The core came to all meetings, and each type brought in a few new members. ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com All posts are the result of individual contributors and as such, those individuals are responsible for the content of the post. The list owner has no control over the content of the messages of each contributor.
Re: [MBZ] How To Repair Maintain your Mercedes-Benz
Amazing how fast the present becomes the old days. I remember Kathy well, also. 'Doesn't seem so terribly long ago. BTW, 6½ years already, though, since I did the 124 evapectomy. Wilton - Original Message - From: Addison Thompson via Mercedes mercedes@okiebenz.com To: mercedes@okiebenz.com Sent: Wednesday, December 03, 2014 11:24 PM Subject: Re: [MBZ] How To Repair Maintain your Mercedes-Benz Curly, You bring back memories. I hadn't thought about the old days for quite a while. I remember Kathy very well and, as I recall, Kathy wasn't treated all that well back then. Regards, Addison '75 450SLC back then…. ;-) On Dec 3, 2014, Curly McLain wrote: From: Curly McLain 126die...@gmail.com Subject: Re: [MBZ] How To Repair Maintain your Mercedes-Benz Date: December 3, 2014 4:40:13 PM PST To: Craig diese...@pisquared.net, Mercedes Discussion List mercedes@okiebenz.com On Wed, 03 Dec 2014 18:16:34 -0500 Dan Penoff via Mercedes mercedes@okiebenz.com wrote: You would have to understand the mindset of the MBCA. It goes back many, many years. Oh. I take it the mindset is not healthy. It was the same group that ran out Kathy Kennel the original MBCA listmom (where the term listmom originated) and former MBCA Pres. I've had no contact with anyone in MBCA since then other than for contact with some former MBCA pres. exchanging Christmas cards and the like. The old group like new MBs and old, and was tolerant of those who keep em running. The new group was all about how much money they could flash, so it was new cars, and $500,000 and over new cars. At an MBCA national driving event, one of that group, watched as his wife totaled a new MB on the track, and later they were laughing about it. Destroying the car meant nothing to them. Just like throwing out a used kleenex.This was before they were part of the group that took over MBCA. It was a bloody takeover. They fired pretty much everyone on the staff. Exec. Director, Publisher, Editor etc. I did not like or approve of the changes. Kathy was a decent lady who did a lot for the club. She was not rich, and didn't drive a new MB. I believe hers was a 71, so it was not acceptable to the money crowd. Not old enough to be classic and worth over $500,000 and not new. ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com All posts are the result of individual contributors and as such, those individuals are responsible for the content of the post. The list owner has no control over the content of the messages of each contributor. ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com All posts are the result of individual contributors and as such, those individuals are responsible for the content of the post. The list owner has no control over the content of the messages of each contributor.
Re: [MBZ] OT: Transcoding LPs to Digital
Greg wrote: We have an eclectic collection of LPs of all types of music. ... then saved them to MP3 files Since I am a rank beginner at doing this, I am curious if any of you have experience with this activity to share. Yeah. Don't use MP3, certainly not for archive master. If you must, use no less than 256 KB/s. Anything I care about the sound quality I save the master as a FLAC file (lossless). Audacity should do that natively. I then use ogg Vorbis as the small-size, lossy distribution format, though for some I don't bother and just use the FLAC. I prefer my digital copy to be a full archive, so I do a bit more. My goal is copy of the full LP as it was on vinyl, plus photos of the jacket, plus track timing and metadata for later splitting. All this can be included in the FLAC file so I end up with one and only one file for each LP that I can extract any of the metadata parts for further or future processing. So I record the entire LP as a single file, then (with snapping sot to CD Frames I use Audacity's Label Track to mark the beginning of each song/piece/section. The label track is exported to create a text file with track timing information. I made a bash (*nix shell) script that converts this to a CUE file. Some recordings get two CUE files with different timing information. For example, I don't it when my playback system (set to random) chooses to play only one movement from a short classical piece. So I create a CUE file that keeps these together. But if I burn a CD, I want to be able to use next to jump to a movement so I also want a CUE file with each movement separate. I then insert all the metadata into the FLAC. I can then use shnsplit to make the one long FLAC file into file-per-track for CD burning and split2ogg to make a tagged ogg file-per-track for distribution (iPod, etc). I use an old Linn turntable, a Fisher tube amp, and a stand along USB preamp to do the initial recording. -- Philip ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com All posts are the result of individual contributors and as such, those individuals are responsible for the content of the post. The list owner has no control over the content of the messages of each contributor.
Re: [MBZ] How To Repair Maintain your Mercedes-Benz
I also dropped out of MBCA back then due to the lack of car-oriented activities. Too many dinners and not enough tech sessions and car shows. Addison On Dec 3, 2014, at 8:48 PM, Curly McLain 126die...@gmail.com wrote: Curly, You bring back memories. I hadn't thought about the old days for quite a while. I remember Kathy very well and, as I recall, Kathy wasn't treated all that well back then. Regards, Addison '75 450SLC back thenŠ. ;-) Kathy was our RVP when we received the charter for our new section. She came out to present the charter. I supported her for Prez, and later for listmom. I talked to her often during the section formation process, and developing bylaws. She was a friend, and she put her heart and soul into MBCA and was rewarded by being kicked by the snobs. I tried hard to have section events that covered all the membership. The core came to all meetings, and each type brought in a few new members. ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com All posts are the result of individual contributors and as such, those individuals are responsible for the content of the post. The list owner has no control over the content of the messages of each contributor.
Re: [MBZ] 124 headliner repair ideas
JoAnn Fabric has replacement fabric, it's the same stuff used by GM and Jeep, both of which have falling headliner issues. Remove the backing and bad headliner, scrape all the crap off, fit new fabric, and glue it on with 3M spray adhesive, just like putting a new foam pad in the engine compartment. Nothing else works. Worse case you have a headliner that isn't a perfect color match, which beats the bejeesus out of having it flapping in the breeze. Peter ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com All posts are the result of individual contributors and as such, those individuals are responsible for the content of the post. The list owner has no control over the content of the messages of each contributor.
Re: [MBZ] OT: Transcoding LPs to Digital
Curly McLain wrote: The EAC would be used in place of Audacity? Rick wrote: In addition to. Audacity is used to create wav (analog) files from the vinyl records. EAC (Exact Audio Copy) is used to convert the wav files to mp3, flac, etc. digital files. I have used EAC for converting (ripping) cd's to digital form. I have not used it to convert wav files from vinyl, but I am pretty sure it can be done. No point in that. Audacity can export an FLAC. EAC excels in ripping CDs. I don't like using Audacity for recording, but it works - and playing an LP is a very repeatable action if the Audacity recording fails. Currently Greg is using Sound Forge software to convert the analog files to digital. No, he is using the turntables A/D converter to make the analog into digital files and recording them in Audacity. He then makes a digital copy and edits that in Sound Forge. Finally, he's using Sound Forge to compress it to an MP3. -- Philip, sending this to Rick and Curly 'cause he don't think the list is letting his messages through. ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com All posts are the result of individual contributors and as such, those individuals are responsible for the content of the post. The list owner has no control over the content of the messages of each contributor.
Re: [MBZ] OT: Transcoding LPs to Digital
No, he is using the turntables A/D converter to make the analog into digital files and recording them in Audacity. He then makes a digital copy and edits that in Sound Forge. Finally, he's using Sound Forge to compress it to an MP3. Yup- but I've seen the error of my ways and have gone to FLAC. Thanks to all. -Original Message- From: Mercedes [mailto:mercedes-boun...@okiebenz.com] On Behalf Of fmiser via Mercedes Sent: Wednesday, December 03, 2014 10:12 PM To: mercedes@okiebenz.com Cc: Rick Knoble Subject: Re: [MBZ] OT: Transcoding LPs to Digital Curly McLain wrote: The EAC would be used in place of Audacity? ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com All posts are the result of individual contributors and as such, those individuals are responsible for the content of the post. The list owner has no control over the content of the messages of each contributor.
