Re: [MBZ] OT: Secure Storage, was Transcoding LPs to Digital
On Thu, Dec 4, 2014 at 11:23 PM, OK Don via Mercedes mercedes@okiebenz.com wrote: I copy (via automatic program) all changes to the folders I'm interested in (photos, documents, music, etc.) from the primary disk to a second disk in the PC, then again to an external disk. and on one of our PCs, to a second external disk.. Very cheap and simple, it all happens when I'm asleep, and I have three or four copies of everything. when one disk dies, I just replace it, and it gets auto brought up to date. I fought with SANs, NASs, and RAID at work for years, didn't want to mess with it at home. I used to do something similar, but recent viruses have taken to destroying files in all online storage devices (then charging a bitcoin ransom for the recovery key, which may or may not work). I have thought about investing in a tape drive (which is ironic given my employer :) but in practice I just keep a USB disk offline, and bring it up occasionally to do the replication. The problem with rotating storage is that it needs to be spinning to keep working, so I can't leave it in a drawer and expect it to work. There were some good deals on 64G USB sticks last week, but I didn't buy any since I don't have a good plan for using them. Anyway, given the state of viruses, I would definitely recommend keeping a solid-state backup - flash, or DVD, or an offline disk - rather than depending on a system that uses Windows shares. To the original post, Synology is a good choice for low power, low noise, high configurability, reasonable cost and reliability. If you roll your own, I have to agree with Dan that FreeNAS is the way to go. If you are willing to lose some abilities, many of the 802.11ac routers have USB ports that will accept a USB drive (or even multiple drives) and expose Windows and NFS shares. Merry Christmas to all, Tim ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com All posts are the result of individual contributors and as such, those individuals are responsible for the content of the post. The list owner has no control over the content of the messages of each contributor.
Re: [MBZ] OT: Transcoding LPs to Digital
On Thu, Dec 4, 2014 at 1:59 PM, Dan Penoff via Mercedes mercedes@okiebenz.com wrote: Not that I know, but then again, I buy enterprise grade drives for my RAIDs. I guess the consumer grade stuff could be wonky like that. Enterprise grade fails too, but shipping mixes them up so customers don't see it, even if there is a single bad line. As I understand it the drive's life is mostly limited because of the tolerances of the components; if you have a single run of every component in manufacturing, it is somewhat more likely they will fail at about the same time in the same usage environment. On the other hand your enterprise drives probably have a 10 or 20 year MTBF, by which time you've already replaced them. Of course you are probably using RAID 5 or 6 too, so even if you have a couple drives fail at almost the same time you can easily recover. If two drives out of a RAID 0 fail, and that -was- your backup, you have a problem. :) Best, Tim ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com All posts are the result of individual contributors and as such, those individuals are responsible for the content of the post. The list owner has no control over the content of the messages of each contributor.
Re: [MBZ] OT: Transcoding LPs to Digital
On Wed, Dec 3, 2014 at 7:27 PM, Rick Knoble via Mercedes mercedes@okiebenz.com wrote: For what it's worth, Sansa portable audio players, and BlackBerry phones are able to play FLAC files. (Another excellent reason to ditch Android and Apple). I've played FLAC on Android. I normally use MX player (just because I like it) but I thought it was built in. Best, Tim ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com All posts are the result of individual contributors and as such, those individuals are responsible for the content of the post. The list owner has no control over the content of the messages of each contributor.
Re: [MBZ] OT: Secure Storage, was Transcoding LPs to Digital
I used to do something similar, but recent viruses have taken to destroying files in all online storage devices (then charging a bitcoin ransom for the recovery key, which may or may not work). I have thought about investing in a tape drive (which is ironic given my employer :) but in practice I just keep a USB disk offline, and bring it up occasionally to do the replication. The problem with rotating storage is that it needs to be spinning to keep working, so I can't leave it in a drawer and expect it to work. There were some good deals on 64G USB sticks last week, but I didn't buy any since I don't have a good plan for using them. Anyway, given the state of viruses, I would definitely recommend keeping a solid-state backup - flash, or DVD, or an offline disk - rather than depending on a system that uses Windows shares. To the original post, Synology is a good choice for low power, low noise, high configurability, reasonable cost and reliability. If you roll your own, I have to agree with Dan that FreeNAS is the way to go. If you are willing to lose some abilities, many of the 802.11ac routers have USB ports that will accept a USB drive (or even multiple drives) and expose Windows and NFS shares. Merry Christmas to all, Tim Thanks Don for the synchronicity tip and Tim for the heads up about online storage. Is the online storage a problem with linux also? I am assuming so because most of the web servers are linux. Is the online storage also a problem wiht the larger providers like google and Microsoft? I see synchonicity is available for Linux also. I am overdue for hardware replacement as my windoze boxes are P4 or worse. When I get some newer hardware, I will probably try the synchonicity for Linux, because at that point, I am going to dump windows, except maybe for one 2003 server as a transitional concession. ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com All posts are the result of individual contributors and as such, those individuals are responsible for the content of the post. The list owner has no control over the content of the messages of each contributor.
Re: [MBZ] OT: Secure Storage, was Transcoding LPs to Digital
Thanks Don for the synchronicity tip and Tim for the heads up about online storage. Is the online storage a problem with linux also? I am assuming so because most of the web servers are linux. Oh, sorry, in the context I meant online as in always connected, not as in over the internet necessarily. What Don was describing is what I would call online storage. Offline storage here would be tapes/DVDs, or over the internet (cloud) on an occasional basis. Is the online storage also a problem wiht the larger providers like google and Microsoft? Not really, the weakest point is your password. The big concern with cloud is, the easier it is to make changes to file (like Dropbox's desktop integration) the easier it is for a malicious program to do the same. I love cloud storage, but for me it is too expensive/slow at the moment. Amazon is pushing things in the right direction though. :) Best, Tim ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com All posts are the result of individual contributors and as such, those individuals are responsible for the content of the post. The list owner has no control over the content of the messages of each contributor.
Re: [MBZ] OT: Secure Storage, was Transcoding LPs to Digital
I agree with Tim. After researching storage options to a level of detail I never planned, I came to much the same conclusion. If I was going with an off the shelf solution it would be Synology. FreeNAS was really attractive, given the high level of configurability it offered. Since I had an existing NAS, a DLink NAS-345 running five drives in RAID 5, I have continued to use it. However, realizing that a single volume RAID 5 setup did not provide the redundancy and setup I desired, I wiped it and went to four drives in a Mirrored RAID configuration with two volumes. So I have two separate volumes, each running on two mirrored drives. This gives me the integrity and redundancy desired for my files for now. It also gives me a performance gain over the previous single volume RAID 5 arrangement as well. Not perfect, but it meets my needs. I pull the mirrors once a month and rotate them out with another drive. The current drives go in the fire safe. Dan Sent from my iPad On Dec 5, 2014, at 9:18 AM, Tim Crone via Mercedes mercedes@okiebenz.com wrote: On Thu, Dec 4, 2014 at 11:23 PM, OK Don via Mercedes mercedes@okiebenz.com wrote: I copy (via automatic program) all changes to the folders I'm interested in (photos, documents, music, etc.) from the primary disk to a second disk in the PC, then again to an external disk. and on one of our PCs, to a second external disk.. Very cheap and simple, it all happens when I'm asleep, and I have three or four copies of everything. when one disk dies, I just replace it, and it gets auto brought up to date. I fought with SANs, NASs, and RAID at work for years, didn't want to mess with it at home. I used to do something similar, but recent viruses have taken to destroying files in all online storage devices (then charging a bitcoin ransom for the recovery key, which may or may not work). I have thought about investing in a tape drive (which is ironic given my employer :) but in practice I just keep a USB disk offline, and bring it up occasionally to do the replication. The problem with rotating storage is that it needs to be spinning to keep working, so I can't leave it in a drawer and expect it to work. There were some good deals on 64G USB sticks last week, but I didn't buy any since I don't have a good plan for using them. Anyway, given the state of viruses, I would definitely recommend keeping a solid-state backup - flash, or DVD, or an offline disk - rather than depending on a system that uses Windows shares. To the original post, Synology is a good choice for low power, low noise, high configurability, reasonable cost and reliability. If you roll your own, I have to agree with Dan that FreeNAS is the way to go. If you are willing to lose some abilities, many of the 802.11ac routers have USB ports that will accept a USB drive (or even multiple drives) and expose Windows and NFS shares. Merry Christmas to all, Tim ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com All posts are the result of individual contributors and as such, those individuals are responsible for the content of the post. The list owner has no control over the content of the messages of each contributor. ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com All posts are the result of individual contributors and as such, those individuals are responsible for the content of the post. The list owner has no control over the content of the messages of each contributor.
Re: [MBZ] OT: Secure Storage, was Transcoding LPs to Digital
On Fri, 5 Dec 2014 09:18:46 -0500 Tim Crone via Mercedes mercedes@okiebenz.com wrote: There were some good deals on 64G USB sticks last week, but I didn't buy any since I don't have a good plan for using them. Today, Newegg has a deal on Wintec Professional PLUS 128GB Secure Digital Extended Capacity (SDXC) Flash Card Model 3FMSD128GU1PI-R for $34.99. It's one of their Shell Shockers at starts on sale at 1000 PST. Craig ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com All posts are the result of individual contributors and as such, those individuals are responsible for the content of the post. The list owner has no control over the content of the messages of each contributor.
Re: [MBZ] OT: Secure Storage, was Transcoding LPs to Digital
Get five of them and set up a USB RAID. Dan Sent from my iPad On Dec 5, 2014, at 11:38 AM, Craig via Mercedes mercedes@okiebenz.com wrote: On Fri, 5 Dec 2014 09:18:46 -0500 Tim Crone via Mercedes mercedes@okiebenz.com wrote: There were some good deals on 64G USB sticks last week, but I didn't buy any since I don't have a good plan for using them. Today, Newegg has a deal on Wintec Professional PLUS 128GB Secure Digital Extended Capacity (SDXC) Flash Card Model 3FMSD128GU1PI-R for $34.99. It's one of their Shell Shockers at starts on sale at 1000 PST. Craig ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com All posts are the result of individual contributors and as such, those individuals are responsible for the content of the post. The list owner has no control over the content of the messages of each contributor. ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com All posts are the result of individual contributors and as such, those individuals are responsible for the content of the post. The list owner has no control over the content of the messages of each contributor.
Re: [MBZ] OT: Secure Storage, was Transcoding LPs to Digital
I really like my Synology DS211J NAS. I wanted a low power NAS to run 24/7 for my main home storage. I have relatively small hard disks in the actual PCs and I wanted to access data from at least two PCs at different ends of the house. I got a Synology 211J which is low performance but also low power and low cost (like $200). I'm currently running 4T and a 3T hard drives, with no RAID, on that box. The Synology software is tops (in my opinion) and Synology keeps it current with periodic updates; these are usually painless. The Synology software has MANY features I don't use but I have hosted a few web sites on that box, which was very easy. You don't need any Linux/Unix skill to use the Synology features (it's all menu driven) even though the actual NAS OS is all some Linux clone. I also have an old Thecus NAS with five 2T drives running RAID 5. You really need to be Linux-smart to do anything beyond basic file serving on that box. The backup scheme that works for me is (1) main PC automatic does continuous backup online via Carbonite, and (2) Thecus (RAID 5) NAS turns itself on daily for a couple hours when Synology NAS performs automatic RSYNC backup to Thecus NAS and main PC performs automatic Acronis backups to Thecus NAS (documents on Mon and Fri and disk image on Weds). I had one 2T hard disk die on the Synology NAS during a power failure but recovering was fairly painless. I guess this NAS backed up its OS on both drives because I just installed the replacement drive and it started right up. Then I recovered the files from the RAID 5 NAS, which took a while even with a gigabit LAN connection. -Original Message- From: Tim Crone Sent: Friday, December 05, 2014 9:19 AM On Thu, Dec 4, 2014 at 11:23 PM, OK Don via Mercedes mercedes@okiebenz.com wrote: ... I used to do something similar, but recent viruses have taken to destroying files in all online storage devices (then charging a bitcoin ransom for the recovery key, which may or may not work). I have thought about investing in a tape drive (which is ironic given my employer :) but in practice I just keep a USB disk offline, and bring it up occasionally to do the replication. The problem with rotating storage is that it needs to be spinning to keep working, so I can't leave it in a drawer and expect it to work. There were some good deals on 64G USB sticks last week, but I didn't buy any since I don't have a good plan for using them. ... ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com All posts are the result of individual contributors and as such, those individuals are responsible for the content of the post. The list owner has no control over the content of the messages of each contributor.
[MBZ] OT replacement battery source for iPhone 4s
Can anyone recommend a reliable vendor for a new replacement battery? Amazon seems to be infested with vendors selling used batteries as new (according to the reviews). I don't mind paying $20 or $40, I really don't want a crappo battery that dies after a month or two or worse yet catches fire or explodes. -- - Max Charleston SC ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com All posts are the result of individual contributors and as such, those individuals are responsible for the content of the post. The list owner has no control over the content of the messages of each contributor.
Re: [MBZ] OT: Secure Storage, was Transcoding LPs to Digital
Get five of them and set up a USB RAID. Dan Is there a box you can buy to plug 5 into for this drive? ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com All posts are the result of individual contributors and as such, those individuals are responsible for the content of the post. The list owner has no control over the content of the messages of each contributor.
Re: [MBZ] OT replacement battery source for iPhone 4s
There is a place on Savannah Highway near the Triangle area/Avondale that repairs ifons, you could check with them, then you could have a warranty. Something Doctor? iDoctor? --R On 12/5/14 2:17 PM, Meade Dillon via Mercedes wrote: Can anyone recommend a reliable vendor for a new replacement battery? Amazon seems to be infested with vendors selling used batteries as new (according to the reviews). I don't mind paying $20 or $40, I really don't want a crappo battery that dies after a month or two or worse yet catches fire or explodes. ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com All posts are the result of individual contributors and as such, those individuals are responsible for the content of the post. The list owner has no control over the content of the messages of each contributor.
Re: [MBZ] OT replacement battery source for iPhone 4s
Does www.ifixit.com sell batteries? I know they sell parts. Might want to check with them. Dan Sent from my iPad On Dec 5, 2014, at 2:17 PM, Meade Dillon via Mercedes mercedes@okiebenz.com wrote: Can anyone recommend a reliable vendor for a new replacement battery? Amazon seems to be infested with vendors selling used batteries as new (according to the reviews). I don't mind paying $20 or $40, I really don't want a crappo battery that dies after a month or two or worse yet catches fire or explodes. -- - Max Charleston SC ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com All posts are the result of individual contributors and as such, those individuals are responsible for the content of the post. The list owner has no control over the content of the messages of each contributor. ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com All posts are the result of individual contributors and as such, those individuals are responsible for the content of the post. The list owner has no control over the content of the messages of each contributor.
Re: [MBZ] OT replacement battery source for iPhone 4s
I've got all the tools and have already taken the phone apart and put it back together several times, so I'd prefer to avoid paying someone else to change the battery. I just want a new battery. I think Battery's Plus offers replacement service as well, I think I asked them several months ago and nearly choked on the price. They refuse to sell iPhone batteries to mere mortals, have to pay them for the install and the battery. Reading on the Apple support forums, some of those folks are pretty arrogant. If anyone confesses to have opened their phone up and tried to do anything, the standard reply seems to be FOOL! You have violated the covenant, iPhones are NOT user-serviceable! You are hereby banished from these forums!!! Go back to iFixit or YouTube or wherever and get help there!!! ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com All posts are the result of individual contributors and as such, those individuals are responsible for the content of the post. The list owner has no control over the content of the messages of each contributor.
Re: [MBZ] AT Does not engage 1st
Larry, Can you contact the folks who rebuilt it (Sun Valley?) http://mercedesdismantlers.com//index.html I'd start with them. -- - Max Charleston SC ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com All posts are the result of individual contributors and as such, those individuals are responsible for the content of the post. The list owner has no control over the content of the messages of each contributor.
Re: [MBZ] G-vahgahn oops
Ouch. Looks like either the arms weren't set under the front end correctly, or they failed. I've only used a lift like that once or twice, I think I remember that each arm has some locks so that when you get it positioned under the vehicle, you insert pins or engage some latches so the arms can't move. -- - Max Charleston SC ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com All posts are the result of individual contributors and as such, those individuals are responsible for the content of the post. The list owner has no control over the content of the messages of each contributor.
Re: [MBZ] AT Does not engage 1st
You've tried changing the fluid? Using Mobil 1? I seem to remember your saying the rebuilder had told you not to use Mobil 1 which seems strange to me since so many of us (myself included) have had excellent luck with it. If it occasionally works I'd guess varnish in the valves. IIRC you don't drive a whole bunch. Assuming thats true and assuming you're not using Mobil 1 thats the first thing I'd do, then go out and drive the stink out of it. Maybe some of the magic elixer somebody else mentioned. I know you don't believe in better living through chemistry but if the problem is really a sticky valve and not a component failure chemistry is the way to go... -Curt From: LarryT via Mercedes mercedes@okiebenz.com To: Mercedes Discussion List mercedes@okiebenz.com Sent: Friday, December 5, 2014 3:32 PM Subject: [MBZ] AT Does not engage 1st Hello -- About 4 years ago I bought one of Rusty's rebuilt AT''s. It was fine until about 3-4 months after the 2 year warranty expired when it stopped engaging 1st. it occasionally works but mostly it doesn't. The kick-down works perfectly for the 4-3 shift. I asked the list when it 1st happened and rec'd a couple of suggestions - the thing that baffles me the most is that it works for 4-3 but not for 2-1. It's been a long time since I've been inside a AT and I can't think of what might be the problem. Maybe dirt in the valve body? maybe a bad solenoid or something? any ideas? Thx LarryT 91 300D ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com All posts are the result of individual contributors and as such, those individuals are responsible for the content of the post. The list owner has no control over the content of the messages of each contributor. ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com All posts are the result of individual contributors and as such, those individuals are responsible for the content of the post. The list owner has no control over the content of the messages of each contributor.
Re: [MBZ] OT replacement battery source for iPhone 4s
Other world computing? THey sell the best batteries for macbooks. Can anyone recommend a reliable vendor for a new replacement battery? Amazon seems to be infested with vendors selling used batteries as new (according to the reviews). I don't mind paying $20 or $40, I really don't want a crappo battery that dies after a month or two or worse yet catches fire or explodes. -- - Max ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com All posts are the result of individual contributors and as such, those individuals are responsible for the content of the post. The list owner has no control over the content of the messages of each contributor.
Re: [MBZ] OT replacement battery source for iPhone 4s
Not to be snide but why do you want to keep an iPhone 4s going? Its not fast, it doesn't have much onboard storage, you're stuck with iOS and no 4G plus now that the 6 is out there is almost no chance it'll run the next iOS update. For $99 you can buy a nice 3G Android phone if you don't need more bandwidth. The Moto E on Republic Wireless for instance. Only 4GB internal but it supports a microSD card up to 32GB. Its lighter, smaller, faster, on a cheaper service, its water resistant and tougher than the notably fragile iPhone 4s. If you're already willing to pay $40 why not go $49 more and get a better phone? -CurtEnjoying a MotoX on Republic Wireless and debating a Moto E for Angie. From: Curly McLain via Mercedes mercedes@okiebenz.com To: Mercedes Discussion List mercedes@okiebenz.com Sent: Friday, December 5, 2014 4:37 PM Subject: Re: [MBZ] OT replacement battery source for iPhone 4s Other world computing? THey sell the best batteries for macbooks. Can anyone recommend a reliable vendor for a new replacement battery? Amazon seems to be infested with vendors selling used batteries as new (according to the reviews). I don't mind paying $20 or $40, I really don't want a crappo battery that dies after a month or two or worse yet catches fire or explodes. -- - Max ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com All posts are the result of individual contributors and as such, those individuals are responsible for the content of the post. The list owner has no control over the content of the messages of each contributor. ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com All posts are the result of individual contributors and as such, those individuals are responsible for the content of the post. The list owner has no control over the content of the messages of each contributor.
[MBZ] '84 300D GPR
I had a buzzing problem upon starting attempt with the GPR in my '84 300D back in March, took it apart resoldered the PCB, lightly sanded the contact points, and cleaned the external pin connections and it's been OK till the other day when all I would get was a click when attempting to start and it sounded like the battery was dead. I checked the battery voltage and it's fine, so I took the GPR apart again, cleaned things up, lightly sanded the contact points, and DeOxit'd the contact points and external pins and the car started fine for one day, but it was back to the click and sounding like the battery is dead. I remembered someone indicating back in March that moisture can get into the GPR box, but I sealed the edges w/ RTV the other day. I'll dig into it again tomorrow to see if I can find what the problem is. Any suggestions? TIA. G. M. Brown Brevard, NC ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com All posts are the result of individual contributors and as such, those individuals are responsible for the content of the post. The list owner has no control over the content of the messages of each contributor.
Re: [MBZ] AT Does not engage 1st
Hello -- About 4 years ago I bought one of Rusty's rebuilt AT''s. It was fine until about 3-4 months after the 2 year warranty expired when it stopped engaging 1st. it occasionally works but mostly it doesn't. The kick-down works perfectly for the 4-3 shift. I asked the list when it 1st happened and rec'd a couple of suggestions - the thing that baffles me the most is that it works for 4-3 but not for 2-1. It's been a long time since I've been inside a AT and I can't think of what might be the problem. Maybe dirt in the valve body? maybe a bad solenoid or something? any ideas? Thx LarryT 91 300D Call sun valley. They know the most about MB transmission in the USA. The owner is very nice and helpful. When my 124 transmission croaked and would not shift out of first, I called him to ask about a transmission. He told me to change the fluid, put in a MANN filter and drive it. I did that and it is still good. He saved me $2500 + freight. Aside from that, All I know is to change the fluid and only use MANN filters in a 124 transmission. ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com All posts are the result of individual contributors and as such, those individuals are responsible for the content of the post. The list owner has no control over the content of the messages of each contributor.
Re: [MBZ] AT Does not engage 1st
Thx Max - Yeah, they offered some suggestions which didn't help - them they suggested the ProLube (if that's what it's called). LarryT On 12/5/2014 3:47 PM, Meade Dillon via Mercedes wrote: ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com All posts are the result of individual contributors and as such, those individuals are responsible for the content of the post. The list owner has no control over the content of the messages of each contributor.
Re: [MBZ] AT Does not engage 1st
Thx Curt, Actually the 300D gets driven at 45-60mph about 40 or more miles per day. It's been like that since we bought it. It has 240k on it and I just pulled a oil Analysis which came out *Perfect*. You are right about SV saying I should use Dexron. I still have the M1 ATF in my garage. I think I'll try M1 and see what happens. I am also a big M1 fan BTW. But I thought SV should know best... Actually the Mechanic in a Can worked for a little while but i can't say for sure it was the magic juice. But 1st I'll try M1... Thx LarryT 91 300D On 12/5/2014 4:02 PM, Curt Raymond wrote: You've tried changing the fluid? Using Mobil 1? I seem to remember your saying the rebuilder had told you not to use Mobil 1 which seems strange to me since so many of us (myself included) have had excellent luck with it. If it occasionally works I'd guess varnish in the valves. IIRC you don't drive a whole bunch. Assuming thats true and assuming you're not using Mobil 1 thats the first thing I'd do, then go out and drive the stink out of it. Maybe some of the magic elixer somebody else mentioned. I know you don't believe in better living through chemistry but if the problem is really a sticky valve and not a component failure chemistry is the way to go... -Curt *From:* LarryT via Mercedes mercedes@okiebenz.com *To:* Mercedes Discussion List mercedes@okiebenz.com *Sent:* Friday, December 5, 2014 3:32 PM *Subject:* [MBZ] AT Does not engage 1st Hello -- About 4 years ago I bought one of Rusty's rebuilt AT''s. It was fine until about 3-4 months after the 2 year warranty expired when it stopped engaging 1st. it occasionally works but mostly it doesn't. The kick-down works perfectly for the 4-3 shift. I asked the list when it 1st happened and rec'd a couple of suggestions - the thing that baffles me the most is that it works for 4-3 but not for 2-1. It's been a long time since I've been inside a AT and I can't think of what might be the problem. Maybe dirt in the valve body? maybe a bad solenoid or something? any ideas? Thx LarryT 91 300D ___ http://www.okiebenz.com http://www.okiebenz.com/ To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com All posts are the result of individual contributors and as such, those individuals are responsible for the content of the post. The list owner has no control over the content of the messages of each contributor. ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com All posts are the result of individual contributors and as such, those individuals are responsible for the content of the post. The list owner has no control over the content of the messages of each contributor.
Re: [MBZ] OT replacement battery source for iPhone 4s
Watch it. I have three iPhone 4s’ in service, all off contract, all working just fine. The users are basic users, just need the simplicity and lack of user tinkering an iPhone offers, and the minimal of phone, text and calendaring that an iPhone provides. I would gladly go to a 5s, but prices on them are still pretty high. And I don’t do contracts with the carriers. And OWC probably has iPhone batteries, too. Forgot about them despite being deluged with email from them this week. Oy. MacDan On Dec 5, 2014, at 4:45 PM, Curt Raymond via Mercedes mercedes@okiebenz.com wrote: Not to be snide but why do you want to keep an iPhone 4s going? Its not fast, it doesn't have much onboard storage, you're stuck with iOS and no 4G plus now that the 6 is out there is almost no chance it'll run the next iOS update. For $99 you can buy a nice 3G Android phone if you don't need more bandwidth. The Moto E on Republic Wireless for instance. Only 4GB internal but it supports a microSD card up to 32GB. Its lighter, smaller, faster, on a cheaper service, its water resistant and tougher than the notably fragile iPhone 4s. If you're already willing to pay $40 why not go $49 more and get a better phone? -CurtEnjoying a MotoX on Republic Wireless and debating a Moto E for Angie. From: Curly McLain via Mercedes mercedes@okiebenz.com To: Mercedes Discussion List mercedes@okiebenz.com Sent: Friday, December 5, 2014 4:37 PM Subject: Re: [MBZ] OT replacement battery source for iPhone 4s Other world computing? THey sell the best batteries for macbooks. Can anyone recommend a reliable vendor for a new replacement battery? Amazon seems to be infested with vendors selling used batteries as new (according to the reviews). I don't mind paying $20 or $40, I really don't want a crappo battery that dies after a month or two or worse yet catches fire or explodes. -- - Max ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com All posts are the result of individual contributors and as such, those individuals are responsible for the content of the post. The list owner has no control over the content of the messages of each contributor. ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com All posts are the result of individual contributors and as such, those individuals are responsible for the content of the post. The list owner has no control over the content of the messages of each contributor. ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com All posts are the result of individual contributors and as such, those individuals are responsible for the content of the post. The list owner has no control over the content of the messages of each contributor.
Re: [MBZ] G-vahgahn oops
On Fri, 5 Dec 2014 16:00:23 -0500 Meade Dillon via Mercedes mercedes@okiebenz.com wrote: http://truckyeah.jalopnik.com/lift-fail-watch-a-100-000-mercedes-g-wagen-fall-from-1667224685/+travis Ouch. Looks like either the arms weren't set under the front end correctly, or they failed. I've only used a lift like that once or twice, I think I remember that each arm has some locks so that when you get it positioned under the vehicle, you insert pins or engage some latches so the arms can't move. Ouch is right! I also liked http://truckyeah.jalopnik.com/four-year-old-fulfills-his-dream-of-being-a-ups-man-and-1667260656 Craig ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com All posts are the result of individual contributors and as such, those individuals are responsible for the content of the post. The list owner has no control over the content of the messages of each contributor.
Re: [MBZ] OT replacement battery source for iPhone 4s
Why do Apple fan boys always say the lack of tinkering an iPhone offers? If you can't handle setting up email and calendar on an Android phone you should probably have a flip phone. There is literally NOTHING they could do to make it easier. I can't understand why people pay the premium for the iPhone that they do. The #1 thing I like about my MotoX over my iPhone 5 is that its a better PHONE. The iPhone has dubious sound reproduction and a crappy antenna. Its also got ROTTEN ergonomics. As I sit here and type on my Retina Macbook Pro I CURSE Apple and their hard metal edges, its like they're trying to destroy my carpal tunnel, and frighteningly my watch, the metal of my computer is much harder than my watch. Dell puts the keyboard farther down the computer and rounds the edge. If we'd have had a deal with Dell when I got a new laptop I'd have gladly gotten another. Or if the HP that was out at the time wasn't crap, the new ones are excellent but 2 years ago when I got this they were crap. I'll grant that the Macbook is lighter and slimmer but thats it... -Curt From: Dan Penoff via Mercedes mercedes@okiebenz.com To: Mercedes List mercedes@okiebenz.com Sent: Friday, December 5, 2014 5:21 PM Subject: Re: [MBZ] OT replacement battery source for iPhone 4s Watch it. I have three iPhone 4s’ in service, all off contract, all working just fine. The users are basic users, just need the simplicity and lack of user tinkering an iPhone offers, and the minimal of phone, text and calendaring that an iPhone provides. I would gladly go to a 5s, but prices on them are still pretty high. And I don’t do contracts with the carriers. And OWC probably has iPhone batteries, too. Forgot about them despite being deluged with email from them this week. Oy. MacDan On Dec 5, 2014, at 4:45 PM, Curt Raymond via Mercedes mercedes@okiebenz.com wrote: Not to be snide but why do you want to keep an iPhone 4s going? Its not fast, it doesn't have much onboard storage, you're stuck with iOS and no 4G plus now that the 6 is out there is almost no chance it'll run the next iOS update. For $99 you can buy a nice 3G Android phone if you don't need more bandwidth. The Moto E on Republic Wireless for instance. Only 4GB internal but it supports a microSD card up to 32GB. Its lighter, smaller, faster, on a cheaper service, its water resistant and tougher than the notably fragile iPhone 4s. If you're already willing to pay $40 why not go $49 more and get a better phone? -CurtEnjoying a MotoX on Republic Wireless and debating a Moto E for Angie. From: Curly McLain via Mercedes mercedes@okiebenz.com To: Mercedes Discussion List mercedes@okiebenz.com Sent: Friday, December 5, 2014 4:37 PM Subject: Re: [MBZ] OT replacement battery source for iPhone 4s Other world computing? THey sell the best batteries for macbooks. Can anyone recommend a reliable vendor for a new replacement battery? Amazon seems to be infested with vendors selling used batteries as new (according to the reviews). I don't mind paying $20 or $40, I really don't want a crappo battery that dies after a month or two or worse yet catches fire or explodes. -- - Max ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com All posts are the result of individual contributors and as such, those individuals are responsible for the content of the post. The list owner has no control over the content of the messages of each contributor. ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com All posts are the result of individual contributors and as such, those individuals are responsible for the content of the post. The list owner has no control over the content of the messages of each contributor. ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com All posts are the result of individual contributors and as such, those individuals are responsible for the content of the post. The list owner has no control over the content of the messages of each contributor. ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com All posts are the result of individual contributors and as such, those individuals are responsible for the content of
[MBZ] Typical MBCA Behavior
Just thought I would mention that I got an email from Tom Harruff, President and Publisher of the SWFL Section, informing me that Scott Suits was not re-elected RD this year and Pierre Hedary took his place.” Funny, as I don’t recall ever mentioning Scott in the discussion about the local section recently. And why would I care? And who the heck is Pierre Hedary, like I would know this person, or it would matter to me? And yes, Tom, I know you’re subscribed here under a different email address. Thanks for lurking. I found it both amusing and saddening that their mindset is still the same - if anyone says anything derogatory, they have to insert themselves into the discussion and get defensive, rather than take constructive criticism and consider the views of others who might be potential members. That’s probably why Scott is out - he was a fringe Kathy Kennel person, but he was afraid to speak out for fear of retribution. Just for doing this I have now identified this guy as a jerk. Oh - I also told him (in a diplomatic manner) to leave me alone. I didn’t solicit his input, nor do I want it. Have a great weekend, everyone. And that goes for you MBCA members who have sections that are actually involved with the cars, too. You’re lucky. Dan ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com All posts are the result of individual contributors and as such, those individuals are responsible for the content of the post. The list owner has no control over the content of the messages of each contributor.
Re: [MBZ] G-vahgahn oops
And the guy thought he could catch it? Wilton - Original Message - From: Rich Thomas via Mercedes mercedes@okiebenz.com To: Mercedes Discussion List mercedes@okiebenz.com Sent: Friday, December 05, 2014 3:37 PM Subject: [MBZ] G-vahgahn oops http://truckyeah.jalopnik.com/lift-fail-watch-a-100-000-mercedes-g-wagen-fall-from-1667224685/+travis --R ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com All posts are the result of individual contributors and as such, those individuals are responsible for the content of the post. The list owner has no control over the content of the messages of each contributor. ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com All posts are the result of individual contributors and as such, those individuals are responsible for the content of the post. The list owner has no control over the content of the messages of each contributor.
Re: [MBZ] OT replacement battery source for iPhone 4s
Wow, Curt, tell us how you really feel! grin I’m no fanboy, as that would imply that I run out and buy the latest and greatest. I don’t evangelize for Apple products, either, as my feeling is that people should get/buy what they are most comfortable with or prefer, for whatever reason. Professionally I have supported Windows products for many years. I have a rooted Nook (Android) tablet next to me on my desk. I have a home built Windows 7 machine next to the desk. I have a NAS that runs a very simple Linux kernel. I am platform agnostic. However, when I am charged with the support for a number of mobile devices that are in use by people who are far from tech-savvy, I’ll go with Apple products for their simplicity and ease of support. Yes, I can set up an Android device without problem. They can’t. However, when I’ve got users who can’t do this and I’m charged with keeping their hardware running and as trouble-free as possible, I’ll choose Apple. And for that matter, I’ve bought one iPhone new. The other 3 or 4 that have circulated around here or are still in service I bought used. I don’t think I paid more than $150 for any of them, and I believe that’s currently three 4s’ and a 4. (Mac/Windows/Android/Linux)Dan On Dec 5, 2014, at 5:28 PM, Curt Raymond via Mercedes mercedes@okiebenz.com wrote: Why do Apple fan boys always say the lack of tinkering an iPhone offers? If you can't handle setting up email and calendar on an Android phone you should probably have a flip phone. There is literally NOTHING they could do to make it easier. I can't understand why people pay the premium for the iPhone that they do. The #1 thing I like about my MotoX over my iPhone 5 is that its a better PHONE. The iPhone has dubious sound reproduction and a crappy antenna. Its also got ROTTEN ergonomics. As I sit here and type on my Retina Macbook Pro I CURSE Apple and their hard metal edges, its like they're trying to destroy my carpal tunnel, and frighteningly my watch, the metal of my computer is much harder than my watch. Dell puts the keyboard farther down the computer and rounds the edge. If we'd have had a deal with Dell when I got a new laptop I'd have gladly gotten another. Or if the HP that was out at the time wasn't crap, the new ones are excellent but 2 years ago when I got this they were crap. I'll grant that the Macbook is lighter and slimmer but thats it... -Curt From: Dan Penoff via Mercedes mercedes@okiebenz.com To: Mercedes List mercedes@okiebenz.com Sent: Friday, December 5, 2014 5:21 PM Subject: Re: [MBZ] OT replacement battery source for iPhone 4s Watch it. I have three iPhone 4s’ in service, all off contract, all working just fine. The users are basic users, just need the simplicity and lack of user tinkering an iPhone offers, and the minimal of phone, text and calendaring that an iPhone provides. I would gladly go to a 5s, but prices on them are still pretty high. And I don’t do contracts with the carriers. And OWC probably has iPhone batteries, too. Forgot about them despite being deluged with email from them this week. Oy. MacDan On Dec 5, 2014, at 4:45 PM, Curt Raymond via Mercedes mercedes@okiebenz.com wrote: Not to be snide but why do you want to keep an iPhone 4s going? Its not fast, it doesn't have much onboard storage, you're stuck with iOS and no 4G plus now that the 6 is out there is almost no chance it'll run the next iOS update. For $99 you can buy a nice 3G Android phone if you don't need more bandwidth. The Moto E on Republic Wireless for instance. Only 4GB internal but it supports a microSD card up to 32GB. Its lighter, smaller, faster, on a cheaper service, its water resistant and tougher than the notably fragile iPhone 4s. If you're already willing to pay $40 why not go $49 more and get a better phone? -CurtEnjoying a MotoX on Republic Wireless and debating a Moto E for Angie. From: Curly McLain via Mercedes mercedes@okiebenz.com To: Mercedes Discussion List mercedes@okiebenz.com Sent: Friday, December 5, 2014 4:37 PM Subject: Re: [MBZ] OT replacement battery source for iPhone 4s Other world computing? THey sell the best batteries for macbooks. Can anyone recommend a reliable vendor for a new replacement battery? Amazon seems to be infested with vendors selling used batteries as new (according to the reviews). I don't mind paying $20 or $40, I really don't want a crappo battery that dies after a month or two or worse yet catches fire or explodes. -- - Max ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com All posts are the result of individual contributors and as such, those individuals are responsible for the content of
Re: [MBZ] Typical MBCA Behavior
Just thought I would mention that I got an email from Tom Harruff, President and Publisher of the SWFL Section, informing me that Scott Suits was not re-elected RD this year and Pierre Hedary took his place. Funny, as I don't recall ever mentioning Scott in the discussion about the local section recently. And why would I care? And who the heck is Pierre Hedary, like I would know this person, or it would matter to me? Dan ___ http://pierrehedary.com/ Sez they work on pre 1993 MBs. Can't fault em for that. I was under the impression that he had an attitude, but I may be wrong about that. Never met they guy. http://www.benzshops.com/florida/pierre-hedarys Just copied some verbage from the above. https://www.facebook.com/pierrehedarys Well, the shop does not look too fru-fru. May be a decent guy. or not I dunno. ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com All posts are the result of individual contributors and as such, those individuals are responsible for the content of the post. The list owner has no control over the content of the messages of each contributor.
Re: [MBZ] Typical MBCA Behavior
None of this matters to me, but thanks for posting it. I have no interest in re-joining, nor do I ever intend to. That’s why I got a kick out of this idiot sending me a message to inform me of Scott’s demise. Like I care? Dan On Dec 5, 2014, at 5:57 PM, Curly McLain via Mercedes mercedes@okiebenz.com wrote: http://pierrehedary.com/ Sez they work on pre 1993 MBs. Can't fault em for that. I was under the impression that he had an attitude, but I may be wrong about that. Never met they guy. http://www.benzshops.com/florida/pierre-hedarys Just copied some verbage from the above. https://www.facebook.com/pierrehedarys Well, the shop does not look too fru-fru. May be a decent guy. or not I dunno. ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com All posts are the result of individual contributors and as such, those individuals are responsible for the content of the post. The list owner has no control over the content of the messages of each contributor. ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com All posts are the result of individual contributors and as such, those individuals are responsible for the content of the post. The list owner has no control over the content of the messages of each contributor.
Re: [MBZ] Typical MBCA Behavior
You care enough to comment on it. --R (just pointing that out!) On 12/5/14 6:05 PM, Dan Penoff via Mercedes wrote: None of this matters to me, but thanks for posting it. I have no interest in re-joining, nor do I ever intend to. That’s why I got a kick out of this idiot sending me a message to inform me of Scott’s demise. Like I care? Dan On Dec 5, 2014, at 5:57 PM, Curly McLain via Mercedes mercedes@okiebenz.com wrote: http://pierrehedary.com/ Sez they work on pre 1993 MBs. Can't fault em for that. I was under the impression that he had an attitude, but I may be wrong about that. Never met they guy. http://www.benzshops.com/florida/pierre-hedarys Just copied some verbage from the above. https://www.facebook.com/pierrehedarys Well, the shop does not look too fru-fru. May be a decent guy. or not I dunno. ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com All posts are the result of individual contributors and as such, those individuals are responsible for the content of the post. The list owner has no control over the content of the messages of each contributor. ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com All posts are the result of individual contributors and as such, those individuals are responsible for the content of the post. The list owner has no control over the content of the messages of each contributor. ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com All posts are the result of individual contributors and as such, those individuals are responsible for the content of the post. The list owner has no control over the content of the messages of each contributor.
Re: [MBZ] Typical MBCA Behavior
True. I felt it was relevant since this was part of a recent thread, that’s all. This Pierre guy looks pretty good - lots of old stuff around his shop. That can’t be anything but good for the sections, since he’ll be more in tune with the older cars and come at things from a different point of reference as a mechanic. I do not wish any ill will towards the MBCA - I have no interest in being a member at this point, anyways - after all, they banned me years ago, so why would they care what I think? That’s sort of why I thought this message from out of the blue, with nothing more than a terse sentence about Scott’s successor, was really weird (and intrusive.) Dan On Dec 5, 2014, at 6:10 PM, Rich Thomas via Mercedes mercedes@okiebenz.com wrote: You care enough to comment on it. --R (just pointing that out!) On 12/5/14 6:05 PM, Dan Penoff via Mercedes wrote: None of this matters to me, but thanks for posting it. I have no interest in re-joining, nor do I ever intend to. That’s why I got a kick out of this idiot sending me a message to inform me of Scott’s demise. Like I care? Dan On Dec 5, 2014, at 5:57 PM, Curly McLain via Mercedes mercedes@okiebenz.com wrote: http://pierrehedary.com/ Sez they work on pre 1993 MBs. Can't fault em for that. I was under the impression that he had an attitude, but I may be wrong about that. Never met they guy. http://www.benzshops.com/florida/pierre-hedarys Just copied some verbage from the above. https://www.facebook.com/pierrehedarys Well, the shop does not look too fru-fru. May be a decent guy. or not I dunno. ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com All posts are the result of individual contributors and as such, those individuals are responsible for the content of the post. The list owner has no control over the content of the messages of each contributor. ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com All posts are the result of individual contributors and as such, those individuals are responsible for the content of the post. The list owner has no control over the content of the messages of each contributor. ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com All posts are the result of individual contributors and as such, those individuals are responsible for the content of the post. The list owner has no control over the content of the messages of each contributor. ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com All posts are the result of individual contributors and as such, those individuals are responsible for the content of the post. The list owner has no control over the content of the messages of each contributor.
Re: [MBZ] Typical MBCA Behavior
Pierre is a decent guy. He is very enthusiastic and knowledgeable and generous with technical advice. Give him a call and you will see! A friend and I met up with him when we went to Amelia Island last Match. We had a nice dinner. Sent from my iPhone On Dec 5, 2014, at 5:57 PM, Curly McLain via Mercedes mercedes@okiebenz.com wrote: Just thought I would mention that I got an email from Tom Harruff, President and Publisher of the SWFL Section, informing me that Scott Suits was not re-elected RD this year and Pierre Hedary took his place. Funny, as I don't recall ever mentioning Scott in the discussion about the local section recently. And why would I care? And who the heck is Pierre Hedary, like I would know this person, or it would matter to me? Dan ___ http://pierrehedary.com/ Sez they work on pre 1993 MBs. Can't fault em for that. I was under the impression that he had an attitude, but I may be wrong about that. Never met they guy. http://www.benzshops.com/florida/pierre-hedarys Just copied some verbage from the above. https://www.facebook.com/pierrehedarys Well, the shop does not look too fru-fru. May be a decent guy. or not I dunno. ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com All posts are the result of individual contributors and as such, those individuals are responsible for the content of the post. The list owner has no control over the content of the messages of each contributor. ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com All posts are the result of individual contributors and as such, those individuals are responsible for the content of the post. The list owner has no control over the content of the messages of each contributor.
Re: [MBZ] OT replacement battery source for iPhone 4s
Meade Dillon via Mercedes wrote: Can anyone recommend a reliable vendor for a new replacement battery? Amazon seems to be infested with vendors selling used batteries as new (according to the reviews). I don't mind paying $20 or $40, I really don't want a crappo battery that dies after a month or two or worse yet catches fire or explodes. I bought an iPoo4 battery on eBay and it seems as good as the factory battery used to be. Unfortunately, I just checked and that seller doesn't have 4S batteries. Mitch. ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com All posts are the result of individual contributors and as such, those individuals are responsible for the content of the post. The list owner has no control over the content of the messages of each contributor.
Re: [MBZ] Typical MBCA Behavior
I am not questioning anything about Pierre - I don’t want to give the impression I’m saying or suggesting anything negative about him just because he’s the new regional director. Doesn’t matter to me, as I’m not in the MBCA. I don’t know the guy from Adam. His shop looks nice and he appears to favor older cars, so that’s a real plus. That makes him good in my eyes no matter what. I don’t go over to that part of the state very often, but if I do I’ll look him up to check out his shop. I did notice that he appears to buy up old inventories and sells some parts, too. Dan On Dec 5, 2014, at 7:43 PM, dseretakis--- via Mercedes mercedes@okiebenz.com wrote: Pierre is a decent guy. He is very enthusiastic and knowledgeable and generous with technical advice. Give him a call and you will see! A friend and I met up with him when we went to Amelia Island last Match. We had a nice dinner. Sent from my iPhone ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com All posts are the result of individual contributors and as such, those individuals are responsible for the content of the post. The list owner has no control over the content of the messages of each contributor.
Re: [MBZ] Typical MBCA Behavior
I got lurkers here? Maybe I need to start cussing worse than a sailer like on banned and run them off. Sent from my iPhone On Dec 5, 2014, at 4:43 PM, Dan Penoff via Mercedes mercedes@okiebenz.com wrote: Just thought I would mention that I got an email from Tom Harruff, President and Publisher of the SWFL Section, informing me that Scott Suits was not re-elected RD this year and Pierre Hedary took his place.” Funny, as I don’t recall ever mentioning Scott in the discussion about the local section recently. And why would I care? And who the heck is Pierre Hedary, like I would know this person, or it would matter to me? And yes, Tom, I know you’re subscribed here under a different email address. Thanks for lurking. I found it both amusing and saddening that their mindset is still the same - if anyone says anything derogatory, they have to insert themselves into the discussion and get defensive, rather than take constructive criticism and consider the views of others who might be potential members. That’s probably why Scott is out - he was a fringe Kathy Kennel person, but he was afraid to speak out for fear of retribution. Just for doing this I have now identified this guy as a jerk. Oh - I also told him (in a diplomatic manner) to leave me alone. I didn’t solicit his input, nor do I want it. Have a great weekend, everyone. And that goes for you MBCA members who have sections that are actually involved with the cars, too. You’re lucky. Dan ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com All posts are the result of individual contributors and as such, those individuals are responsible for the content of the post. The list owner has no control over the content of the messages of each contributor. ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com All posts are the result of individual contributors and as such, those individuals are responsible for the content of the post. The list owner has no control over the content of the messages of each contributor.
Re: [MBZ] Typical MBCA Behavior
The guy is subscribed but I can’t find any posts from him, so I would say that makes him a lurker. Better watch out - you might get banned from the MBCA! Dan On Dec 5, 2014, at 8:05 PM, Kaleb C. Striplin via Mercedes mercedes@okiebenz.com wrote: I got lurkers here? Maybe I need to start cussing worse than a sailer like on banned and run them off. Sent from my iPhone ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com All posts are the result of individual contributors and as such, those individuals are responsible for the content of the post. The list owner has no control over the content of the messages of each contributor.
Re: [MBZ] G-vahgahn oops
Yeah, I noticed that. Not smart. But I guess the whole episode suggests not a lot of smarts there. --R (sent from my miniPad) On Dec 5, 2014, at 5:45 PM, WILTON wilt...@nc.rr.com wrote: And the guy thought he could catch it? Wilton - Original Message - From: Rich Thomas via Mercedes mercedes@okiebenz.com To: Mercedes Discussion List mercedes@okiebenz.com Sent: Friday, December 05, 2014 3:37 PM Subject: [MBZ] G-vahgahn oops http://truckyeah.jalopnik.com/lift-fail-watch-a-100-000-mercedes-g-wagen-fall-from-1667224685/+travis --R ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com All posts are the result of individual contributors and as such, those individuals are responsible for the content of the post. The list owner has no control over the content of the messages of each contributor. ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com All posts are the result of individual contributors and as such, those individuals are responsible for the content of the post. The list owner has no control over the content of the messages of each contributor.
Re: [MBZ] OT: Transcoding LPs to Digital
It may be fake, but I recall a CSI episode where elmers glue was used on a rare jazz record to clean it up. Spread it along the grooves to make a thin skin, which goes deep into the groove and grabs all the kruft. Once dry, just peal it up and the recording is like new. OR just hollywood smoke and mirrors. clay On Dec 4, 2014, at 2:56 PM, fmiser via Mercedes wrote: Greg wrote: Much of our collection other than classical music has been rode hard and put away wet. The audio restoration software of Sound Forge produces a remarkable improvement in the listenability of these LPs. A step I forgot to mention is to wash the LP. Use dish soap, warm water, and fingers to scrub the crud off. I try to keep the center label dry so it is less likely to come off. Also, keep the scrubbing action fairly light and parallel to the groove. Playing the LP wet can make an amazing improvement in surface noise - but the water will creep up the stylus and can damage the cartridge so I play mine dry. I happen to have a vacuum record cleaner so I use that, but a paper towel or a cleaning brush works okay. -- Philip ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com All posts are the result of individual contributors and as such, those individuals are responsible for the content of the post. The list owner has no control over the content of the messages of each contributor. ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com All posts are the result of individual contributors and as such, those individuals are responsible for the content of the post. The list owner has no control over the content of the messages of each contributor.
Re: [MBZ] OT: Transcoding LPs to Digital
Could be legit. I wonder if rubber cement would work or if the solvent would eat the record. Maybe liquid latex? Its pretty benign stuff. -Curt From: clay via Mercedes mercedes@okiebenz.com To: fmiser fmi...@gmail.com; Mercedes Discussion List mercedes@okiebenz.com Sent: Friday, December 5, 2014 8:17 PM Subject: Re: [MBZ] OT: Transcoding LPs to Digital It may be fake, but I recall a CSI episode where elmers glue was used on a rare jazz record to clean it up. Spread it along the grooves to make a thin skin, which goes deep into the groove and grabs all the kruft. Once dry, just peal it up and the recording is like new. OR just hollywood smoke and mirrors. clay On Dec 4, 2014, at 2:56 PM, fmiser via Mercedes wrote: Greg wrote: Much of our collection other than classical music has been rode hard and put away wet. The audio restoration software of Sound Forge produces a remarkable improvement in the listenability of these LPs. A step I forgot to mention is to wash the LP. Use dish soap, warm water, and fingers to scrub the crud off. I try to keep the center label dry so it is less likely to come off. Also, keep the scrubbing action fairly light and parallel to the groove. Playing the LP wet can make an amazing improvement in surface noise - but the water will creep up the stylus and can damage the cartridge so I play mine dry. I happen to have a vacuum record cleaner so I use that, but a paper towel or a cleaning brush works okay. -- Philip ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com All posts are the result of individual contributors and as such, those individuals are responsible for the content of the post. The list owner has no control over the content of the messages of each contributor. ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com All posts are the result of individual contributors and as such, those individuals are responsible for the content of the post. The list owner has no control over the content of the messages of each contributor. ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com All posts are the result of individual contributors and as such, those individuals are responsible for the content of the post. The list owner has no control over the content of the messages of each contributor.
Re: [MBZ] Typical MBCA Behavior
I have not been a member for probably 10 years Sent from my iPhone On Dec 5, 2014, at 7:09 PM, Dan Penoff via Mercedes mercedes@okiebenz.com wrote: The guy is subscribed but I can’t find any posts from him, so I would say that makes him a lurker. Better watch out - you might get banned from the MBCA! Dan On Dec 5, 2014, at 8:05 PM, Kaleb C. Striplin via Mercedes mercedes@okiebenz.com wrote: I got lurkers here? Maybe I need to start cussing worse than a sailer like on banned and run them off. Sent from my iPhone ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com All posts are the result of individual contributors and as such, those individuals are responsible for the content of the post. The list owner has no control over the content of the messages of each contributor. ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com All posts are the result of individual contributors and as such, those individuals are responsible for the content of the post. The list owner has no control over the content of the messages of each contributor.
Re: [MBZ] OT replacement battery source for iPhone 4s
The 4S battery I put in my wife's phone was about $6. It worked good as new, according to her, and it's been working for about 2 months now. The battery looked new. I think I used Amazon, don't know which vendor. Can't really check with this laptop, my son's using the newer one. -- Jim ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com All posts are the result of individual contributors and as such, those individuals are responsible for the content of the post. The list owner has no control over the content of the messages of each contributor.
Re: [MBZ] OT: Secure Storage, was Transcoding LPs to Digital
I wanted a low power NAS to run 24/7 So how low _is_ it? The Mac G4 (Sawtooth) I'm using for RAID NAS is running about 30W with 2 2TB drives in it, plus a boot drive. (And no video card.) That's 24x7, but it is also our web server. If it were not, and I really cared, I could set it to power up only part of the day. Time Machine makes the backups as painless as they get. I really like that they made hard links work for directories too, the backup solution is pretty elegant that way. -- Jim ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com All posts are the result of individual contributors and as such, those individuals are responsible for the content of the post. The list owner has no control over the content of the messages of each contributor.
Re: [MBZ] OT replacement battery source for iPhone 4s
It amazes me how cheap they are on Amazon. When the one in my iPhone 5 exploded (literally expanded and broke the screen) I priced them before I went to the Apple store and found many under $10. Apple threatened me with $80 for the battery alone before they replaced it under a mysterious extension of my warranty. -Curt From: Jim Cathey via Mercedes mercedes@okiebenz.com To: Meade Dillon dillonm...@gmail.com; Mercedes Discussion List mercedes@okiebenz.com Sent: Friday, December 5, 2014 9:00 PM Subject: Re: [MBZ] OT replacement battery source for iPhone 4s The 4S battery I put in my wife's phone was about $6. It worked good as new, according to her, and it's been working for about 2 months now. The battery looked new. I think I used Amazon, don't know which vendor. Can't really check with this laptop, my son's using the newer one. -- Jim ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com All posts are the result of individual contributors and as such, those individuals are responsible for the content of the post. The list owner has no control over the content of the messages of each contributor. ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com All posts are the result of individual contributors and as such, those individuals are responsible for the content of the post. The list owner has no control over the content of the messages of each contributor.
Re: [MBZ] OT: Secure Storage, was Transcoding LPs to Digital
Did you put a SATA card in it? I wonder how low you could go with a Raspberry Pi (or Banana Pi if you want more horsepower) and external drive enclosure. I guess the weak point in power consumption becomes the external drive enclosure. If you REALLY wanted low power you'd use SSD but the drives would cost so much it'd make striving for low power kind of silly. The Raspberry Pi B+ will supposedly run on 1.21w at the low end, thats not very much. Dad and I have talked about setting up one at camp with a camera module and a 3G wifi whatsit to allow remote monitoring. Should be able to power the whole deal easily with a 100w solar panel, charge controller and 12v battery. No need for an inverter, using 12v should save a fair amount of overhead. 110ah battery at 50% cycle gives 660w. The 100w panel is way overkill but I just noticed Amazon dropped the price on the kit $10 to $175. Its getting to the point where the charge controller is more expensive than the panel. -Curt From: Jim Cathey via Mercedes mercedes@okiebenz.com To: Scott Ritchey ritche...@nc.rr.com; Mercedes Discussion List mercedes@okiebenz.com Sent: Friday, December 5, 2014 9:06 PM Subject: Re: [MBZ] OT: Secure Storage, was Transcoding LPs to Digital I wanted a low power NAS to run 24/7 So how low _is_ it? The Mac G4 (Sawtooth) I'm using for RAID NAS is running about 30W with 2 2TB drives in it, plus a boot drive. (And no video card.) That's 24x7, but it is also our web server. If it were not, and I really cared, I could set it to power up only part of the day. Time Machine makes the backups as painless as they get. I really like that they made hard links work for directories too, the backup solution is pretty elegant that way. -- Jim ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com All posts are the result of individual contributors and as such, those individuals are responsible for the content of the post. The list owner has no control over the content of the messages of each contributor. ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com All posts are the result of individual contributors and as such, those individuals are responsible for the content of the post. The list owner has no control over the content of the messages of each contributor.
[MBZ] Not the Lego Set for the Kids this Christmas
Might want to pass on this one unless it’s for an adult friend: http://lego.gizmodo.com/yes-you-can-actually-buy-this-lego-strip-club-1666998969 http://lego.gizmodo.com/yes-you-can-actually-buy-this-lego-strip-club-1666998969 Dan ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com All posts are the result of individual contributors and as such, those individuals are responsible for the content of the post. The list owner has no control over the content of the messages of each contributor.
Re: [MBZ] Typical MBCA Behavior
Since he sounds like he has expertise (and parts), perhaps you should try sugar instead, and get him to participate . . . On Fri, Dec 5, 2014 at 7:58 PM, Kaleb C. Striplin via Mercedes mercedes@okiebenz.com wrote: I have not been a member for probably 10 years Sent from my iPhone On Dec 5, 2014, at 7:09 PM, Dan Penoff via Mercedes mercedes@okiebenz.com wrote: The guy is subscribed but I can’t find any posts from him, so I would say that makes him a lurker. Better watch out - you might get banned from the MBCA! Dan On Dec 5, 2014, at 8:05 PM, Kaleb C. Striplin via Mercedes mercedes@okiebenz.com wrote: I got lurkers here? Maybe I need to start cussing worse than a sailer like on banned and run them off. -- OK Don NSA: The only branch of government that actually listens to US citizens! There are three kinds of men: The ones that learns by reading. The few who learn by observation. The rest of them have to pee on the electric fence for themselves. WILL ROGERS, *The Manly Wisdom of Will Rogers* 2013 F150, 18 mpg 2012 Passat TDI DSG, 44 mpg 1957 C182A, 12 mpg - but at 150 mph! ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com All posts are the result of individual contributors and as such, those individuals are responsible for the content of the post. The list owner has no control over the content of the messages of each contributor.
Re: [MBZ] OT: Secure Storage, was Transcoding LPs to Digital
Did you put a SATA card in it? Two, in fact. For whatever reason, SW RAID performance absolutely stunk when both drives were on the same card. A second cheapie card, flashed to be Mac-friendly, was the easiest solution. I suspect driver problems, but there's a limit to how much work I want to put in to save on a $5 card! The only thing I did not get was the ability to use the TM GUI on the server itself to restore from its own TM backups to the shared RAID. That is due to video card limitations, and by unwillingness to spend big bucks to get one of the rare cards that would work. If I need to restore, I'll just copy manually from the archive. It's idiotic that the TM GUI requires high-end animation support, but it does. Would have been dirt-simple to have a slow mode in the app, that maybe ditched the animated starfield, or whatever it was that drove it to there in the first place. I wonder how low you could go with a Raspberry Pi (or Banana Pi if you want more horsepower) and external drive enclosure. Pretty low, I'd guess. In my case I already had the surprisingly low-power Sawtooth, and all the SW was already there in OSX 10.5, a nearly zero investment in figuring out how to make it do what I wanted. (Hosting Time Machine from all our household Macs, reliably, was an absolute requirement.) A Pi-based system would be good, the rotating disks would be spun down 99% of the time. But I would have spent _much_ more time getting it going, and would have needed something to house and power the disks. (And the Pi.) We don't have any exposed Linux machines in the house, sticking with OSX for everything makes sense. Another $20 got me another complete Sawtooth off of Craigslist to serve as a spare, should I have problems. That's hard to beat. No need for an inverter, using 12v should save a fair amount of overhead. It would, but you still would have to power the disks. They don't eat 12V directly. (Not exclusively, anyhow.) It's getting to the point where the charge controller is more expensive than the panel. You don't really need a charge controller if you don't have to maximize the power transfer from the panel to the battery. A voltage regulator would do it! If a 25% bigger panel covers the inefficiency, and is cheaper than the controller, well... -- Jim ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com All posts are the result of individual contributors and as such, those individuals are responsible for the content of the post. The list owner has no control over the content of the messages of each contributor.