Re: [MBZ] 240D rescued..
My 240D has two of these problems. The ignition prob. turned out not to be the tumbler (yes, I replaced with a new one), rather apparently the column locking mechanism. I've yet to get around to dripping some sort of oil into there to hopefully help it. The starter on mine is intermittent too. I found that the end piece on the solenoid is actually loose. The starter has worked fine as I put off replacing it, save for one chilly morning. But it did get me started that morn. And YES! Why not a tachometer in the only manually-shifted model of those years (that I know of)? Seems more necessary than in an auto-trannie model! Brian 83 240D From: Steve MacSween [EMAIL PROTECTED] Reply-To: Mercedes Discussion List Mercedes@okiebenz.com To: [EMAIL PROTECTED], Mercedes Discussion List Mercedes@okiebenz.com Subject: Re: [MBZ] 240D rescued.. Date: Mon, 19 Jun 2006 23:08:19 -0400 on 6/19/06 2:33 PM, Kevin J. Slater at [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: 1) Ignition tumbler is somewhat dicey at times, requiring the key to be pulled out just a bit to get it to turn. If it just needs some key giggle, that's just normal wear and probably not a cause for alarm... but if it's hard to turn or binding at one point as you turn it: Replace it NOW, the easy/inexpensive way, or curse mightily if it jams and you have to do it the hard/time consuming way. They can jam up suddenly, don't ask how I found that out. 2) Driver's side rear door is locked (?) shut as previously mentioned and can't be opened. Not that unusual, assuming you mean the handle does not move. You will need to pull off the inside door panel and free up the mechanism. Up here they sometimes rust in place, given time and the passage of moisture/road salt spray into the inner door during winter. 3) Starter didn't engage a few times. I don't think it's the neutral safety switch and may be related to item 1) Could be that, could be a iffy solenoid, but look over the wiring too. One of my 240ds had some damaged wiring which caused the same intermittent problem. 5) The speedometer, odometer and trip odometer are inoperable. I think they did work on the initial visit. I have a 300D cluster I could swap in. Is it possible to substitute and is everything in a 240D for a working tach? I was gonna ask the latter part of this as well? How come no tach on 240ds? Congrats on your find. Good luck. Mac ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com _ Is your PC infected? Get a FREE online computer virus scan from McAfee® Security. http://clinic.mcafee.com/clinic/ibuy/campaign.asp?cid=3963
Re: [MBZ] Turn Signals Out
Yes! That seems a very reasonable solution! What gets me is that in my Saab, the ignition is down there. Yeah it's nice to be different, but the junk that can fall into there... The kicker is that my dealer-installed sunroof drips slightly and guess where it drips down into? Brian 83 240D 84 Saab 900 Skins like those used to protect keyboards would be a handy item in such a situation. Duct taping saran wrap over them would serve the same purpose, especially if wood-grained tape can be had. Johnny B. I Mac Therefore I am ___ http://www.striplin.net For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://striplin.net/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_striplin.net _ Dont just search. Find. Check out the new MSN Search! http://search.msn.click-url.com/go/onm00200636ave/direct/01/
Re: [MBZ] 1977 300D non turbo engine replacement Cross Roads
But would it be worth doing all the crack? Seriously though, jesting aside: One of the things that I was most surprised about when I began to investigate an older Mercedes was how affordable they were. Not having had any specific interest in them in the past, I always assumed that even an old one (as in 80s) would be way way out of the range of reasonable (like the range you gave for the showroom cond. one). And an even older one would be getting into true classic status and thus would be even further out of range. So basically one that is in the lower $2k range is one that, generally speaking, has not been maintained and the seller therefore knows it has problems? I see all the time through the list, Mercedes diesels for that sort of price (and that's about what mine cost) and the listers often tout picking them up. Guess what I have been missing all along is that it is understood that if you buy one at this price range, you will be looking - almost for certain - at several repairs. I have read things today on the list that I did not see in the six months or longer leading up to the purchase of my 240D. But in fairness, it is a Mercedes enthusiast list (with a very large do-it-yourself contingent). What should I have expected? And also in fairness, I don't think that I ever specifically asked the question, do you guys think that I ought to buy one of these autos? All that said, I still do admire this type of vehicle and think that it is one of the few that - since I have to drive - I want to drive. I do enjoy it and look forward to a happy life with it. Next order of business: replace the starter. It did it's nothing trick just now. Brian 83 240D Marshall wrote: One that's quite well maintained, may well be worth $2000-5000 and one that's in close to showroom condition with less than 75kmi on it can sell for $10+k and MAY even be worth that. _ FREE pop-up blocking with the new MSN Toolbar get it now! http://toolbar.msn.click-url.com/go/onm00200415ave/direct/01/
Re: [MBZ] Unique odometer reading
Cool. Brian From: Kaleb C. Striplin [EMAIL PROTECTED] Reply-To: Mercedes Discussion List [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: Mercedes Discussion List [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: [MBZ] Unique odometer reading Date: Sat, 04 Mar 2006 17:42:11 -0600 No, I as at work, I just got home, reading mail, then getting ready to head out and work some more. Brian Chase wrote: Thanks, Craig. Actually I did attatch the picture, but it was automatically put on hold by kalebministrator's system because the picture size was too big. He must be out hunting for parts, so I'll make a smaller version and retry. Brian From: Craig McCluskey [EMAIL PROTECTED] Reply-To: Mercedes Discussion List [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: Mercedes Discussion List [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: [MBZ] Unique odometer reading Date: Sat, 4 Mar 2006 11:59:13 -0700 On Sat, 04 Mar 2006 10:45:55 -0700 Brian Chase [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Actually the picture will probably be stripped, won't it? When you attach a picture on this list, it isn't sent to everyone on the list, but there is a link added that allows others to download it if they want. So, go ahead and attach the picture. Craig ___ http://www.striplin.net For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://striplin.net/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_striplin.net _ Express yourself instantly with MSN Messenger! Download today - it's FREE! http://messenger.msn.click-url.com/go/onm00200471ave/direct/01/ ___ http://www.striplin.net For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://striplin.net/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_striplin.net -- Kaleb C. Striplin/Claremore, OK 90 420SEL, 89 560SEL, 87 300SDL, 85 380SE, 85 300D, 84 190D 2.2, 83 300TD, 81 300TD, 81 240D, 81 240D, 76 450SEL, 76 240D, 76 300D, 74 240D, 72 250C, 69 250 http://www.striplin.net ___ http://www.striplin.net For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://striplin.net/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_striplin.net _ Express yourself instantly with MSN Messenger! Download today - it's FREE! http://messenger.msn.click-url.com/go/onm00200471ave/direct/01/
Re: [MBZ] MELT?
Since aluminum is the topic of the moment, I do believe I had some TRW forged aluminum pistons installed as part of the rebuild of my 440 c.i. V8. They would take some heat, wouldn't they? Brian From: Bill Gallagher [EMAIL PROTECTED] Reply-To: Mercedes Discussion List [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: Mercedes Discussion List [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: [MBZ] MELT? Date: Sat, 04 Mar 2006 21:03:30 -0500 I don't know about alloys, but I think the melting point will be much higher i.e. Al pistons. Al is good transfer of heat/cold Land Rover have Al body but the engine firewall is made out of steel to protect from fire ... Next time in a junk yard, look at the melted/deformed Al parts of a car in a fire..of course, water cools the heads and others, but a car fire, nothing to cool the part, will melt/deform under the high heat Bill 1981 300 TD David Brodbeck wrote: Bill Gallagher wrote: Al has a melting point of about 1220F .. Isn't the melting point of some alloys higher? There are certainly a lot of engines, both diesel and gasoline, running around with aluminum heads that haven't melted down. ___ http://www.striplin.net For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://striplin.net/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_striplin.net ___ http://www.striplin.net For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://striplin.net/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_striplin.net _ Express yourself instantly with MSN Messenger! Download today - it's FREE! http://messenger.msn.click-url.com/go/onm00200471ave/direct/01/
Re: [MBZ] MELT?
You have partially revealed my ignorance. Easy to do. Brian From: OK Don [EMAIL PROTECTED] Reply-To: Mercedes Discussion List [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: Mercedes Discussion List [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: [MBZ] MELT? Date: Sat, 4 Mar 2006 20:48:13 -0600 Although I'm sure that they exist, I've never seen a piston that wasn't aluminum --- On 3/4/06, Brian Chase [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Since aluminum is the topic of the moment, I do believe I had some TRW forged aluminum pistons installed as part of the rebuild of my 440 c.i. V8. They would take some heat, wouldn't they? Brian -- OK Don, KD5NRO Norman, OK '90 300D 243K, Rattled '87 300SDL 290K, Limo Lite, or blue car '81 240D 173K, Gramps, or yellow car '78 450SLC 67K, brown car '97 Ply Grand Voyager 78K Van Go ___ http://www.striplin.net For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://striplin.net/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_striplin.net _ FREE pop-up blocking with the new MSN Toolbar get it now! http://toolbar.msn.click-url.com/go/onm00200415ave/direct/01/
[MBZ] Switching to gmail for MB list
Since I'm sitting around this Saturday night, I'm going to ask a question I've been wondering about: I have a gmail account and I think I might like to switch my Mercedes list to it and away from this hotmail account. Acting as catalyst is the fact that my other hotmail account, which I have been using to store info. pertinent to me that I copy from this list, has been wiped out. All the info I've been collecting for future use is gone. I've been reminded that hotmail accounts go away if not opened once every 30 days. So I'd like to migrate away from them. I suppose it's self-explanatory, but would I just unsubscribe with this address and subscribe anew with the gmail address? As dopey as I am with technical computer stuff, I don't want to screw anything up. Brian _ Express yourself instantly with MSN Messenger! Download today - it's FREE! http://messenger.msn.click-url.com/go/onm00200471ave/direct/01/
Re: [MBZ] unique odometer reading
To answer Craig's question: I admit I had a helper to take the photo. We were anticipating the shot for a hundred miles or two as we trekked across the states. The wife even took some preliminary shots. (distracted her from the pot-shots she usually takes). I was prepared to pull off onto the shoulder in case I couldn't get 'er over 75 in order to get the needle out of the way. This should answer JB's question regarding the model we're talking about. It is quite interesting, though to become aware of those little dots that indicate the shift points. You can tell how little time I've had this auto. Brian From: John Berryman [EMAIL PROTECTED] Reply-To: Mercedes Discussion List [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: Mercedes Discussion List [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: [MBZ] unique odometer reading Date: Sun, 5 Mar 2006 00:49:22 -0500 On Mar 5, 2006, at 12:12 AM, Craig McCluskey wrote: Allright, LT Don, I've been out driving around for over a month since you posted your odometer picture, just so I could match ya. And my picture quality is better. And I live in MN, not IA. So there. http://striplin.net/pipermail/mercedes_striplin.net/attachments/ 20060304/3556f096/Odo123BestAdjSm.bin And taken while driving, too! Did you have help? Craig So, Who's odometer picture is this? What car, engine and transmission? Johnny B. I Mac Therefore I am ___ http://www.striplin.net For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://striplin.net/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_striplin.net _ Dont just search. Find. Check out the new MSN Search! http://search.msn.click-url.com/go/onm00200636ave/direct/01/
[MBZ] Tightness
Allright, now it's getting late, I've walked the dogs, the wife is out of town, and I've had a few beers. So I have the courage to ask: I notice many listers speak of how tight and great the 124s handle. Can I just say that driving my 123 is like piloting a pontoon compared to driving my 84 Saab? I know, I know they're designed for somewhat different purposes, but still, the very loose steering bugs the crap out of me. Jumping in the 900 after driving the 240 for so long resulted in over revving and over steering. I understand the steering gear can be tightened some via an adjusting nut? But adjust it too far and risk steering box damage? I'm betting that my Saab handles about as well as the 124s. NOT trying to be confrontational, I love my 240 dearly. Brian 83 240D Hate to say it, the Saab may get better mileage too _ Express yourself instantly with MSN Messenger! Download today - it's FREE! http://messenger.msn.click-url.com/go/onm00200471ave/direct/01/
Re: [MBZ] Project 240D in Oregon
The seller wrote: Inside, the car feels fresh and inviting. and pulls hills easily with passengers aboard. The transmission shifts properly, and downshifts with a dab of your toe for accelerating past slower vehicles (!). Holy cats, this guy is, how you say, on crack. The thing pulls hills? With 70 gallons of fuel and with passengers and an automatic? Did he fail to mention the twin turbo chargers? This guy could sell sand to Tucsonans. He even feathered the photo edges in Photoshop. I'm trying to figure what makes this car worth a few times more than mine. Good to see what your car looks like, Jim. Brian 83 240D From: Jim Cathey [EMAIL PROTECTED] Reply-To: Mercedes Discussion List [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: Mercedes Discussion List [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: [MBZ] Project 240D in Oregon Date: Sat, 4 Mar 2006 22:16:25 -0800 Here is my car, right down to the auxiliary fuel tank. Mine looks the same, but it measures out more like 20 gallons not the 50 this guy claims. Except, of course, this car is a couple of years newer with a lot less miles, and in generally excellent condition. Unlike mine. http://cgi.ebay.com/ebaymotors/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItemitem=4617065320 -- Jim ___ http://www.striplin.net For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://striplin.net/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_striplin.net _ Dont just search. Find. Check out the new MSN Search! http://search.msn.click-url.com/go/onm00200636ave/direct/01/
[MBZ] Unique odometer reading
Actually the picture will probably be stripped, won't it? Brian _ Dont just search. Find. Check out the new MSN Search! http://search.msn.click-url.com/go/onm00200636ave/direct/01/
Re: [MBZ] Unique odometer reading
Thanks, Craig. Actually I did attatch the picture, but it was automatically put on hold by kalebministrator's system because the picture size was too big. He must be out hunting for parts, so I'll make a smaller version and retry. Brian From: Craig McCluskey [EMAIL PROTECTED] Reply-To: Mercedes Discussion List [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: Mercedes Discussion List [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: [MBZ] Unique odometer reading Date: Sat, 4 Mar 2006 11:59:13 -0700 On Sat, 04 Mar 2006 10:45:55 -0700 Brian Chase [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Actually the picture will probably be stripped, won't it? When you attach a picture on this list, it isn't sent to everyone on the list, but there is a link added that allows others to download it if they want. So, go ahead and attach the picture. Craig ___ http://www.striplin.net For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://striplin.net/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_striplin.net _ Express yourself instantly with MSN Messenger! Download today - it's FREE! http://messenger.msn.click-url.com/go/onm00200471ave/direct/01/
Re: [MBZ] unique odometer reading
Allright, LT Don, I've been out driving around for over a month since you posted your odometer picture, just so I could match ya. And my picture quality is better. And I live in MN, not IA. So there. Brian 83 240D From: LT Don [EMAIL PROTECTED] Reply-To: Mercedes Discussion List [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: Mercedes Discussion List [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: [MBZ] unique odometer reading Date: Sat, 21 Jan 2006 05:12:56 + I wish, in retrospect, that I'd reset the trip odometer to show 123456 up top and 1234 down below. But alas, I didn't have that much foresight. On 1/21/06, Craig McCluskey [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On Fri, 20 Jan 2006 20:32:29 -0600 LT Don [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: My odometer turned this today while I was driving west to a meeting. Having taken the digital camera with me in anticipation of this turn-of-events, just had to pull onto the shoulder of the highway and snap a photo. But ... the odometer reading is not really true, since a new one was put in by 240D's previous owner at ~88,000 miles. Nevertheless, it's very interesting. I guess my recent 224466 comes in a distant second. (I took a picture, but I won't bother to post it.) Craig ___ http://www.striplin.net For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://striplin.net/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_striplin.net -- 1977 240D 1983 VW Quantum turbo diesel 5-speed 1972 Honda CB-500K motorcycle http://www.airamericaradio.com/listen ___ http://www.striplin.net For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://striplin.net/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_striplin.net _ Dont just search. Find. Check out the new MSN Search! http://search.msn.click-url.com/go/onm00200636ave/direct/01/ -- next part -- A non-text attachment was scrubbed... Name: Odo123BestAdjSm.jpg Type: image/pjpeg Size: 122974 bytes Desc: not available Url : http://striplin.net/pipermail/mercedes_striplin.net/attachments/20060304/3556f096/Odo123BestAdjSm.bin
Re: [MBZ] unique odometer reading
Allright, LT Don, I've been out driving around for over a month nonstop since you posted your odometer picture, just so I could match ya. And my picture quality is better. And I live in MN, not IA. So there. Brian 83 240D ready to get out of the car From: LT Don [EMAIL PROTECTED] Reply-To: Mercedes Discussion List [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: Mercedes Discussion List [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: [MBZ] unique odometer reading Date: Sat, 21 Jan 2006 05:12:56 + I wish, in retrospect, that I'd reset the trip odometer to show 123456 up top and 1234 down below. But alas, I didn't have that much foresight. On 1/21/06, Craig McCluskey [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On Fri, 20 Jan 2006 20:32:29 -0600 LT Don [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: My odometer turned this today while I was driving west to a meeting. Having taken the digital camera with me in anticipation of this turn-of-events, just had to pull onto the shoulder of the highway and snap a photo. But ... the odometer reading is not really true, since a new one was put in by 240D's previous owner at ~88,000 miles. Nevertheless, it's very interesting. I guess my recent 224466 comes in a distant second. (I took a picture, but I won't bother to post it.) Craig ___ http://www.striplin.net For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://striplin.net/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_striplin.net -- 1977 240D 1983 VW Quantum turbo diesel 5-speed 1972 Honda CB-500K motorcycle http://www.airamericaradio.com/listen ___ http://www.striplin.net For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://striplin.net/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_striplin.net _ Express yourself instantly with MSN Messenger! Download today - it's FREE! http://messenger.msn.click-url.com/go/onm00200471ave/direct/01/ -- next part -- A non-text attachment was scrubbed... Name: Odo123BestAdjSmlr.jpg Type: image/pjpeg Size: 55942 bytes Desc: not available Url : http://striplin.net/pipermail/mercedes_striplin.net/attachments/20060304/87787871/Odo123BestAdjSmlr.bin
Re: [MBZ] Fuel Prices
Thanks. If PA taxes higher than some, I wonder what MD taxes. When I lived in Northern MD (about 1 mile from the PA border) we noticed a marked difference in the quality of the roads once we would cross over into PA (the roads were in worse condition in PA). I was told that this was because MD charged higher taxes and applied them partly to the roads. Also, isn't it easier to register a car in PA? Do they require inspections? Brian 83 240D Dr. Booth wrote Fed tax on gasoline seems to currently be $0.184 and on diesel $0.244 a gallon. State by state tax rates here: http://api-ec.api.org/filelibrary/mft070105.pdf In PA where I buy MOST of my fuel, gas is taxed at $0.323 and diesel at $0.392 in addition to the Fed tax so I pay 63.6 cents in federal and state tax for every gallon of diesel I buy. _ Is your PC infected? Get a FREE online computer virus scan from McAfee® Security. http://clinic.mcafee.com/clinic/ibuy/campaign.asp?cid=3963
Re: [MBZ] Fuel Prices
Yes, to me, that is the most basic concept at work here. I was saying that the other day. Why on earth would they lower the prices once it has been well-established that we will continue to buy just as much at the higher prices? I liken it to cigarettes. It's hard to believe what they're getting for a pack these days, but folks just keep on buyin and puffin. (just an example - don't fillet me) Brian 83 240D Luther ( I think) ? Wrote: If you had a product to sell, and you knew the top dollar that it would fetch that wouldn't diminish the volume of sales, wouldn't you push the price to the top dollar??? _ Dont just search. Find. Check out the new MSN Search! http://search.msn.click-url.com/go/onm00200636ave/direct/01/
[MBZ] Auto Tranny Life (was I found an 82 300CD)
It's good to get an actual number on this subject (c. 140k). Don't worry, I won't quote you, but does anyone else concur with this vital bit of information regarding Auto Tranny life? Brian 83 240D From: andrew strasfogel [EMAIL PROTECTED] Reply-To: Mercedes Discussion List [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: Mercedes Discussion List [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: [MBZ] I found an 82 300CD Date: Fri, 3 Mar 2006 08:53:55 -0500 We're spoiled because the 1980s (not including the bulletproof 1985 models) AT in 300 turbodiesels ONLY last about 140,000 miles. I'm on my third AT (274K miles) in a 1983 300TD but it I am not complaining because the car is such a joy to drive. On 3/2/06, David Brodbeck [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: ernest breakfield wrote: why would someone *not* fix the AC? Probably because Portland's climate is (I think) a lot like Seattle's, which means you might only really want A/C for two or three weeks out of the year. Not worth the cost, especially when it's just going to die again of disuse. ___ http://www.striplin.net For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://striplin.net/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_striplin.net ___ http://www.striplin.net For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://striplin.net/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_striplin.net _ Dont just search. Find. Check out the new MSN Search! http://search.msn.click-url.com/go/onm00200636ave/direct/01/
Re: [MBZ] I found an 82 300CD
Question: Is the auto tranny an issue in the Coupes specifically? (not sure why it'd be peculiar to the Coupe, - just asking). Or is this common in a lot of auto tranny 300Ds? The 300 CD we looked at in AZ had shifting issues too. He said it was slipping, but the dealer fixed it. Later, he neglected to mention the dealer part. When we rode in it, it shifted very hard, seemed it wanted to chirp the tires. I did notice, though, that it was something like a pint - a quart low on ATF. But he said it had had shifting issues for some time. Brian 83 240D _ Express yourself instantly with MSN Messenger! Download today - it's FREE! http://messenger.msn.click-url.com/go/onm00200471ave/direct/01/
Re: [MBZ] Fuel Prices
I'm sure this has been covered before, so bear with me, but does anyone think that diesel will go back to being cheaper than gas? Or are we doomed to pay more from now on? Has there been some special tax applied to diesel? Why is it so much more now? Brian 83 240D From: Anthony Galioto [EMAIL PROTECTED] Reply-To: Mercedes Discussion List [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: Mercedes Discussion List [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: [MBZ] Fuel Prices Date: Thu, 2 Mar 2006 10:58:40 -0500 The attached web site will give the lowest fuel (gas diesel) prices by zip code. It may be helpful to you. -- http://autos.msn.com/everyday/gasstations.aspx?zip=src=Netx Anthony ___ http://www.striplin.net For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://striplin.net/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_striplin.net _ Express yourself instantly with MSN Messenger! Download today - it's FREE! http://messenger.msn.click-url.com/go/onm00200471ave/direct/01/
Re: [MBZ] Fuel Prices
That's maybe encouraging. Wonder if the US follows Canada's trends? Brian From: R A Bennell [EMAIL PROTECTED] Reply-To: Mercedes Discussion List [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: Mercedes Discussion List [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: [MBZ] Fuel Prices Date: Thu, 2 Mar 2006 13:43:01 -0600 Don't know whats happening in the USA but recently the prices of diesel and regular gas have been about the same here in Winnipeg. Was not the case for quite a while. Randy B -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Behalf Of Brian Chase Sent: Thursday, March 02, 2006 1:39 PM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: [MBZ] Fuel Prices I'm sure this has been covered before, so bear with me, but does anyone think that diesel will go back to being cheaper than gas? Or are we doomed to pay more from now on? Has there been some special tax applied to diesel? Why is it so much more now? Brian 83 240D From: Anthony Galioto [EMAIL PROTECTED] Reply-To: Mercedes Discussion List [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: Mercedes Discussion List [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: [MBZ] Fuel Prices Date: Thu, 2 Mar 2006 10:58:40 -0500 The attached web site will give the lowest fuel (gas diesel) prices by zip code. It may be helpful to you. -- http://autos.msn.com/everyday/gasstations.aspx?zip=src=Netx Anthony ___ http://www.striplin.net For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://striplin.net/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_striplin.net _ Express yourself instantly with MSN Messenger! Download today - it's FREE! http://messenger.msn.click-url.com/go/onm00200471ave/direct/01/ ___ http://www.striplin.net For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://striplin.net/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_striplin.net ___ http://www.striplin.net For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://striplin.net/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_striplin.net _ Is your PC infected? Get a FREE online computer virus scan from McAfee® Security. http://clinic.mcafee.com/clinic/ibuy/campaign.asp?cid=3963
Re: [MBZ] I found an 82 300CD
I figured it was the same tranny. So I guess the question becomes: Are the auto trannies in Mercedes diesels (particularly early - mid-eighties) often a problem? Do they not live up to the legendary longevity of the engines? I'm glad that I have a manual tranny, but the wife is enamored with the Coupes since we checked that one out. Brian 83 240D From: John Berryman [EMAIL PROTECTED] Reply-To: Mercedes Discussion List [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: Mercedes Discussion List [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: [MBZ] I found an 82 300CD Date: Thu, 2 Mar 2006 15:27:33 -0500 On Mar 2, 2006, at 1:45 PM, Brian Chase wrote: Question: Is the auto tranny an issue in the Coupes specifically? (not sure why it'd be peculiar to the Coupe, - just asking). Or is this common in a lot of auto tranny 300Ds? Same tranny. Johnny B. I Mac Therefore I am ___ http://www.striplin.net For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://striplin.net/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_striplin.net _ On the road to retirement? Check out MSN Life Events for advice on how to get there! http://lifeevents.msn.com/category.aspx?cid=Retirement
Re: [MBZ] I found an 82 300CD
Good info. I'd wondered about the auto trannies in these autos. Didn't know if they were good or bad or somewhere inbetween. This is the main reason I love the peace of mind of a standard. My 727 Torqueflite auto, though, is known in the biz as bulletproof. Why am I getting rid of that car again? The seller of the CD we test drove claimed it was a Borg Warner transmission and tough as nails. But he said a lot of stuff - he is a jewelry and fine metals salesman. Well, he could be a great guy, I'm just saying he's a salesman, so he was giving quite a pitch. Brian 83 240D 68 Dodge Coronet 500 From: Jim Cathey [EMAIL PROTECTED] Reply-To: Mercedes Discussion List [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: Mercedes Discussion List [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: [MBZ] I found an 82 300CD Date: Thu, 2 Mar 2006 14:31:45 -0800 When we rode in it, it shifted very hard, seemed it wanted to chirp the tires. I did notice, though, that it was something like a pint - a quart low on ATF. But he said it had had shifting issues for some time. It was probably flaring and they disconnected the vacuum line altogether resulting in its hardest shifting. (Which is none too hard in the Chicken Wagon where we've also done this.) -- Jim ___ http://www.striplin.net For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://striplin.net/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_striplin.net _ Express yourself instantly with MSN Messenger! Download today - it's FREE! http://messenger.msn.click-url.com/go/onm00200471ave/direct/01/
Re: [MBZ] OT: Loosing
Yes, the ubiquitous axed. What gets me these days is how most people daren't use the word me because they think it is improper or sounds dumb. Ex: The officer gave directions to Joe and I. Listen for it. It also gets me when people don't use the long e sound when using the word the before a vowel. Ex: I swam in thugh ocean. Worse is when folks won't use the word an, using instead, a. Ex: It's time for a oil change. Don't believe me? Listen for it. Wish I could ignore it. Trust me, I'm not up on my English rules, nor am I very educated. I just speak properly. Yeah, I know the message still gets across, alls I'm saying is that it is irritating. Brian 83 240D Peeves about English, and probably plenty of violations coming from I too From: Rich Thomas [EMAIL PROTECTED] Reply-To: Mercedes Discussion List [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: Mercedes Discussion List [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: [MBZ] OT: Loosing Date: Tue, 28 Feb 2006 09:55:56 -0600 No, Loose in this instance is an active verb, implying an individual intent to let something fly. In the case of oil (or breaks, or break petals) it is just happening, no intent there. I have noticed that there is a quite widespread tendency in emails and 'net postings and such to use the spelling loosing or looser when one really means lose or loser. Never the other way around. And sometimes it comes out loosed when lost is meant. Granted the English language has all sorts of weird spellings and pronunciations that do not look like they sound, or sound like they look, but how hard is it to keep these two words straight? I always wonder if there is some other action at work here, some sort of psychological/language/organic brain thing. Or if it is some cultural thing like Ebonics (aksed, Eckscalade), in this case a result of collective e activities, call it eonics maybe, wherein someone did this mispelling at one time, it got picked up by someone else, and just snowballed from there amongst some of the (semi?)digirati. Not to insult anyone who does this, I really think about this topic in an academic kind of way. Any neurolinguisticpsychologists out there driving old Benzes (not psychos, we know there are plenty of those)? Comments? --R Levi Smith wrote: I beg to differ. From dictionary.com: Loosing: 1. To let fly; discharge: loosed an arrow. I believe in this situation the oil is being discharged is it not? I believe he is indeed loosing his oil. Though I would tend to think he meant to use losing...(: Levi On 2/28/06, andrew strasfogel [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Loosing is not a word. Losing is aword. ___ http://www.striplin.net For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://striplin.net/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_striplin.net ___ http://www.striplin.net For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://striplin.net/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_striplin.net _ FREE pop-up blocking with the new MSN Toolbar get it now! http://toolbar.msn.click-url.com/go/onm00200415ave/direct/01/
Re: [MBZ] Sticky ignition lock
True enough. Maybe I'll fashion a cover for it. Maybe a lot of things. I'm tiring of this auto presenting me with problems. I'm ready to start enjoying it. Anybody have any idea why the new tumbler from the dealer looks different and doesn't fit? It is made for this specific VIN afterall. Brian 83 240D From: Jim Cathey [EMAIL PROTECTED] Reply-To: Mercedes Discussion List [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: Mercedes Discussion List [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: [MBZ] Sticky ignition lock Date: Tue, 28 Feb 2006 14:49:28 -0800 which one could insert a pin (while in the zero position)? Thus allowing removal of tumbler while in zero? Thus allowing anybody with a paper clip and a screwdriver to steal your car! -- Jim ___ http://www.striplin.net For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://striplin.net/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_striplin.net _ Express yourself instantly with MSN Messenger! Download today - it's FREE! http://messenger.msn.click-url.com/go/onm00200471ave/direct/01/
Re: [MBZ] Sticky ignition lock
Yes, the new key does operate the old one. So the thing is keyed correctly. The tumbler just wouldn't fit in the hole. I was sitting next to the guy that was trying to install it, so I cannot say with absolute certainty that it won't fit. I will try it again. Brian 83 240D From: Peter Frederick [EMAIL PROTECTED] Reply-To: Mercedes Discussion List [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: Mercedes Discussion List [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: [MBZ] Sticky ignition lock Date: Tue, 28 Feb 2006 19:21:56 -0600 Brian: Well, it is 23 years old, after all The tumbler should be identical -- does the new key operate the old one? Peter ___ http://www.striplin.net For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://striplin.net/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_striplin.net _ On the road to retirement? Check out MSN Life Events for advice on how to get there! http://lifeevents.msn.com/category.aspx?cid=Retirement
Re: [MBZ] Sticky ignition lock
Yup. I've been past that for a while now. Review to my last post on the subject. Thanks. Brian 83 240D From: Peter Frederick [EMAIL PROTECTED] Reply-To: Mercedes Discussion List [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: Mercedes Discussion List [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: [MBZ] Sticky ignition lock Date: Mon, 27 Feb 2006 18:21:44 -0600 Brian: It's very easy to remove the lock mechanism IF you can turn the key -- just press the little button on the back and it comes out after you unbolt everything. You can then examine it and decided what to do -- it may only need cleaning, may be shot. Don't wait -- again, you have to destroy the locking mechanism to get it out if the key won't turn. Luther: The tumbler is MUCH cheaper than the parts you ruin getting a stuck one out. Buy a new tumbler (yours will come with a new key as well) and avoid being stuck in a dark parking lot in a bad part of town late at night! Peter ___ http://www.striplin.net For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://striplin.net/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_striplin.net _ Express yourself instantly with MSN Messenger! Download today - it's FREE! http://messenger.msn.click-url.com/go/onm00200471ave/direct/01/
Re: [MBZ] OT Bedroom Communities
OK Don, did you take your klatta to Albuquerque? What we've noticed is that Santa Fe, and to a lesser extent Taos and other NM communities, is the Saab Mecca. Interestingly, Santa Barbara seems to be a 123 Mecca (of course CA is NEW model mercedes world), but we noticed a high concentration of 123s in Santa Barbara and the area. I think it's the Bio/WVO craze. brian 83 240D 84 Saab 900 From: OK Don [EMAIL PROTECTED] Reply-To: Mercedes Discussion List [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: Mercedes Discussion List [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: [MBZ] OT Bedroom Communities Date: Mon, 27 Feb 2006 20:51:53 -0600 We have bike lanes, trails, etc. in Norman, but they are seldom used. We did see LOTS of cyclists on the roads, trails, lanes, everywhere while visiting Albuquerque two weeks ago. There were both those getting exercise and those using them for transporation. Quite impressive. On 2/27/06, Brian Chase [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Respectfully, I'd submit that the bike trails can be used for transportation too. If I can do it in Minnesota year round, a lot of other people could too. However, most people wouldn't be caught dead on a bicycle - that's for kids and losers. I do realize that not everyone has the capability of riding though, and that's fine. Just had to put in two cents for the virtue of trails. We think they enhance a community. -- OK Don, KD5NRO Norman, OK '90 300D 243K, Rattled '87 300SDL 290K, Limo Lite, or blue car '81 240D 173K, Gramps, or yellow car '78 450SLC 67K, brown car '97 Ply Grand Voyager 78K Van Go ___ http://www.striplin.net For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://striplin.net/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_striplin.net _ Express yourself instantly with MSN Messenger! Download today - it's FREE! http://messenger.msn.click-url.com/go/onm00200471ave/direct/01/
Re: [MBZ] OT Bedroom Communities
Yup. You're right. A lot of people can't do it. My wife's with you. As a medical professional, she can't really do it either, although I'm sure they do have showers available to them. It would take time and hassle though. And she'd have to pack her suit in a backpack and get it wrinkled. Guess I am kind of on the fringe, and see things the way I wish they could be, not the way they are. So are you telling me that my coworkers didn't appreciate me leaving a puddle on my chair rolling pad thingie? You're nuts. Maybe, though, folks could consider jumping on the bike in favor of the SUV to run to the corner store for some snacks or a video? I can see the benefits, but again, I'm on the fringe. Brian 83 240D Bits and pieces KHS mountain/commuter From: ms.300SD [EMAIL PROTECTED] Reply-To: Mercedes Discussion List [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: Mercedes Discussion List [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: [MBZ] OT Bedroom Communities Date: Mon, 27 Feb 2006 20:54:44 -0800 Commuting to work on your bike might work out for you, but I am thinking that you wouldn't want an RN who is all stinky and sweaty from riding to work taking care of you in the hospital. And lots of people need to show up for work freshly showered and dressed, not all sweaty, rumpled and stinky because they rode their bike in to work that day. Can you see yourself walking in to Nordstrom's to buy some (whatever) and some sweaty guy comes up, and says, May I help you? I can't. Last time I checked, most employers do not have an employee locker room where employees may shower and change before work. Sorry, it's just not feasable for most people. Lynn in WA ___ http://www.striplin.net For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://striplin.net/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_striplin.net _ Express yourself instantly with MSN Messenger! Download today - it's FREE! http://messenger.msn.click-url.com/go/onm00200471ave/direct/01/
Re: [MBZ] Sticky ignition lock
Haven't gotten any response to my post questioning whether the ignition locking problem is caused by the tumbler as opposed to the locking mechanism in the column, but I must continue to question that. It seems that everyone is convinced replacing the tumbler will solve it, but could it not be the locking rod? (forgive me if that is the wrong name for the part, but you get what I'm referring to). My tumbler is lubed up and works quite nicely, and I have removed and replaced it several times (in fact tried to install the new one I bought from the dealer, but it wouldn't fit), so I am becoming familiar with the whole deal, and it seems that the problem does not lie with the tumbler. Enlighten me. Brian 83 240D From: John Berryman [EMAIL PROTECTED] Reply-To: Mercedes Discussion List [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: Mercedes Discussion List [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: [MBZ] Sticky ignition lock Date: Tue, 28 Feb 2006 01:03:47 -0500 On Feb 27, 2006, at 6:34 PM, Hendrik Riessen wrote: Yeah but that costs money, I'll try lubricating (thanks Luther) and another key before doing the right thing. Hang on, bugger it the ashtray is full as well might as well buy another car:-) Hendrik who had a lead on a cheap 190D 2.5 but it was sold by the time I got around there and it only had 217k kmhs Hendrick who always has something clever after his name. You should really heed this advice, lest you want to be known as Hendrick who thought he'd try to save some money and is now pulling his hair out because he has to drill out a hardened lock cylinder. No joke, the ignition lock is telling you it is going to fail in the not too distant future. When you can no longer turn the key it will be impossible to remove the lock cylinder without a lot of effort. Its not a pretty sight. Many on this list once thought they knew it all and went about trying to avoid fixing the problem and came up with all kinds of ideas. None have been successful and many of the aforementioned folks will bear testimony to their foolishness. 1(800) 741-5252 good place to start or visit your local dealer with VIN to get one keyed to your car. Johnny B. I Mac Therefore I am ___ http://www.striplin.net For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://striplin.net/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_striplin.net _ Dont just search. Find. Check out the new MSN Search! http://search.msn.click-url.com/go/onm00200636ave/direct/01/
Re: [MBZ] OT Bedroom Communities
Gotcha. Cool. This summer my wife bought an old Sears bike for some $150 and found out it might be worth like $500. No basket though. Does have the Safety Club sticker on it. And headlight. Brian From: ms.300SD [EMAIL PROTECTED] Reply-To: Mercedes Discussion List [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: Mercedes Discussion List [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: [MBZ] OT Bedroom Communities Date: Mon, 27 Feb 2006 22:30:21 -0800 Hey Brian, You have some good points, however my nearest big hospital does have locker rooms, just no showers. I think that the doctors have showers, but the nurses don't. There are no SUV's here at this house, but you would be happy to know that I still own my 30 year old Schwinn Suburban, and have been looking for a set of nice baskets with which to bring groceries home (from my favorite grocery store). We do have a grocery store within walking distance to the house as well as a video store, so I do walk to pick up one or two items, or a video. The Sounder also passes by a 7 minute walk from my house. I'd just love it if I could walk from the house to a station and get on a train. Hubby would love it if he could commute to work on the train, too. For the time being, I'll continue to ensconce myself in the luxurious cabin of my 300SD. Lynn ___ http://www.striplin.net For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://striplin.net/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_striplin.net _ On the road to retirement? Check out MSN Life Events for advice on how to get there! http://lifeevents.msn.com/category.aspx?cid=Retirement
Re: [MBZ] Sticky ignition lock
Very good. But what is the Switch that you refer to? I assume it is the assy. that the tumbler seats into (and what the screwdirver, or other, would insert into to turn it to start)? Brian From: Jim Cathey [EMAIL PROTECTED] Reply-To: Mercedes Discussion List [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: Mercedes Discussion List [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: [MBZ] Sticky ignition lock Date: Mon, 27 Feb 2006 22:51:50 -0800 Haven't gotten any response to my post questioning whether the ignition locking problem is caused by the tumbler as opposed to the locking mechanism in the column, but I must continue to question that. It is _usually_ the tumbler, but it can be the column lock. I know of no way to really diagnose it except to remove the tumbler and then start it with a screwdriver (or whatever) for long enough to determine whether it's still sticky or not. What can also work is to remove, disassemble, clean, and lube the column lock mechanism. I've done this before, but you'll forgive me if I no longer remember for which car! Alternate approaches are just shotgunning parts to see if it gets better. There are only three possible candidates: tumbler, switch, or column lock. -- Jim It seems that everyone is convinced replacing the tumbler will solve it, but could it not be the locking rod? (forgive me if that is the wrong name for the part, but you get what I'm referring to). My tumbler is lubed up and works quite nicely, and I have removed and replaced it several times (in fact tried to install the new one I bought from the dealer, but it wouldn't fit), so I am becoming familiar with the whole deal, and it seems that the problem does not lie with the tumbler. Enlighten me. Brian 83 240D From: John Berryman [EMAIL PROTECTED] Reply-To: Mercedes Discussion List [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: Mercedes Discussion List [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: [MBZ] Sticky ignition lock Date: Tue, 28 Feb 2006 01:03:47 -0500 On Feb 27, 2006, at 6:34 PM, Hendrik Riessen wrote: Yeah but that costs money, I'll try lubricating (thanks Luther) and another key before doing the right thing. Hang on, bugger it the ashtray is full as well might as well buy another car:-) Hendrik who had a lead on a cheap 190D 2.5 but it was sold by the time I got around there and it only had 217k kmhs Hendrick who always has something clever after his name. You should really heed this advice, lest you want to be known as Hendrick who thought he'd try to save some money and is now pulling his hair out because he has to drill out a hardened lock cylinder. No joke, the ignition lock is telling you it is going to fail in the not too distant future. When you can no longer turn the key it will be impossible to remove the lock cylinder without a lot of effort. Its not a pretty sight. Many on this list once thought they knew it all and went about trying to avoid fixing the problem and came up with all kinds of ideas. None have been successful and many of the aforementioned folks will bear testimony to their foolishness. 1(800) 741-5252 good place to start or visit your local dealer with VIN to get one keyed to your car. Johnny B. I Mac Therefore I am ___ http://www.striplin.net For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://striplin.net/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_striplin.net _ Dont just search. Find. Check out the new MSN Search! http://search.msn.click-url.com/go/onm00200636ave/direct/01/ ___ http://www.striplin.net For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://striplin.net/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_striplin.net ___ http://www.striplin.net For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://striplin.net/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_striplin.net _ Express yourself instantly with MSN Messenger! Download today - it's FREE! http://messenger.msn.click-url.com/go/onm00200471ave/direct/01/
Re: [MBZ] Sticky ignition lock
Since I didn't get any laughs, I wonder if my post describing my recent experiences with unsticking my stuck ignition made it through. Maybe the post was too long and lost peoples' interest. The funniest thing is that it's all true. Any thoughts on filing or drilling out a second notch into which one could insert a pin (while in the zero position)? Thus allowing removal of tumbler while in zero? At any rate, thanks for all the info. So, as someone who had become of the opinion that the problem was probably the locking mechanism, not the tumbler, and is now becoming convinced once again that it is the tumbler, let me just be sure I understand: The condition where - locking the steering wheel, (by nudging or turning it 'til it clicks into lock position) can sometimes cause the key to freeze up in the zero position - likely is the fault of the tumbler. Even if the tumbler operates smoothly when it's removed. In other words, there is something wrong with the tumbler that causes it to freeze up when acted upon by something that is done to the steering wheel (making the wheel lock by turning it when key is in zero), and this is not the fault of the locking mechanism in the column, or anything else, rather it is the tumbler at fault (most likely). Am I correct? That's not hitting me as intuitive, but the experience of the list wins out. Now I just need to figure out why the tumbler I bought from the dealer has a different body, and didn't want to fit. Brian 83 240D From: Jim Cathey [EMAIL PROTECTED] Reply-To: Mercedes Discussion List [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: Mercedes Discussion List [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: [MBZ] Sticky ignition lock Date: Tue, 28 Feb 2006 06:57:21 -0800 But what is the Switch that you refer to? I assume it is the assy. that the tumbler seats into (and what the screwdirver, or other, would insert into to turn it to start)? The tumbler connects to the front of the column lock mechanism, the switch to the back. (The switch is what contains the dingus that prevents multiple start attempts without going back to 0, so if it's got the moxie it could certainly try to give you trouble.) Rmove the lock before it sticks.. Take it apart and remove the brass slides tumblers.. Leave the key retainer on.. Reassemble and reinstall.. Now only you know that any MB key will work.. That would work, but it is a real PITA to get out the little pin that holds the tumbler together. I have done it, when I re-keyed a tumbler for the Chicken Wagon. (Its had been Dremeled to death due to a lockup incident, but the wafers were still good and I had another lock in a parts car [Smelly].) The ruined pin was replaced with a brad. I remember now that the column lock I CLA'd was the one in the Ebola Fishtank. When its tumbler locked up I was still able to hotwire the car and drive it home, courtesy of the fact that the column lock mechanism had frozen up too. Scary, knowing that at any time it could let loose and lock the column on me as I drove, so I went slowly and tried to avoid bumps! I eventually got the key to work once more so I removed the tumbler. It was filthy, and I cleaned it out and lubed it and it started working well again. I bought a new tumbler anyway, but I think it's still in a bag in the ashtray. (Stupid carburetors. Stupid owner [me].) I did remove the column lock and got it all slicked up again. There's not that much to it, but it can get all full of crud over time. -- Jim ___ http://www.striplin.net For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://striplin.net/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_striplin.net _ On the road to retirement? Check out MSN Life Events for advice on how to get there! http://lifeevents.msn.com/category.aspx?cid=Retirement
Re: [MBZ] No starter response
Cool. That all sounds predictable. This being my first real experience owning a diesel in this climate, I was hoping that the silence upon turning the key was not this engine's way of saying - I'm from the desert, it's 10 degrees out here - not part of my job description. Brian 83 240D From: John Berryman [EMAIL PROTECTED] Reply-To: Mercedes Discussion List [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: Mercedes Discussion List [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: [MBZ] No starter response Date: Sun, 26 Feb 2006 20:41:14 -0500 On Feb 26, 2006, at 4:59 PM, Brian Chase wrote: Thanks for concise info. So, when the thing wants to be put in neutral, and perhaps jiggled, this is related to the starter solenoid? Okay. Will look toward getting a reman starter. No, you missed something. That's to see if your neutral safety switch or linkage is out of adjustment. If moving the linkage has no effect then the wiring or starter is suspect. The connector at the neutral switch could possibly be corroded. Clean that connection before condemning the starter. It most likely is the starter though. Johnny B. I Mac Therefore I am ___ http://www.striplin.net For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://striplin.net/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_striplin.net _ On the road to retirement? Check out MSN Life Events for advice on how to get there! http://lifeevents.msn.com/category.aspx?cid=Retirement
Re: [MBZ] No starter response
So it really sounds like this problem is specifically recognized by a few of you as a starter/solenoid going bad. Wish I'd kept the Auto Joke starter I put in then pulled out when I was trying to diagnose what turned out to be the siezed engine. Brian 83 240D From: Curt Raymond [EMAIL PROTECTED] Reply-To: Mercedes Discussion List [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: [MBZ] No starter response Date: Sun, 26 Feb 2006 16:12:19 -0800 (PST) Assuming you don't have an automatic in which case I'd say neutral safety switch. On a manual shift car I'd say this is your starter telling you its time to call Rusty and order a replacement while you can get the special February deal. I neglected a failing starter way too long on my 240D which led to some really annoying times in parking lots (Come on, come on! Please, start just once more.) and lots of time driving around looking for a hilly place to park so I could roll start. My car's starter gave me nearly a YEAR of warning, it'd stay on a little too long, then sometimes would pull your trick and then for a month it'd be fine... -Curt Date: Sun, 26 Feb 2006 00:37:04 -0700 From: Brian Chase [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: [MBZ] No starter response To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Message-ID: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Content-Type: text/plain; format=flowed Another issue! We took the 240 out to the pub tonight, and when I jumped in to start it I got zero response when I tried to engaged the starter. I glowed like normal, then turned the key to start and nothing. This was repeated another time or two, then the next time - success - the starter ran like normal. Had to glow again to get a start. It is around 10 degrees out here tonight, and we were in the pub for some three hours. Was just glad not to have to call a tow or try to figure out the problem in the cold while the wife waited. But dreading it happening again. Sound like a bad connection somewhere? Or what? Brian 83 240D - Yahoo! Mail Bring photos to life! New PhotoMail makes sharing a breeze. ___ http://www.striplin.net For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://striplin.net/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_striplin.net _ On the road to retirement? Check out MSN Life Events for advice on how to get there! http://lifeevents.msn.com/category.aspx?cid=Retirement
Re: [MBZ] Biodiesel, Keys and Red Devils
I just discovered the joys of the plastic-headed key. The one I just bought broke on me. It was at night, and I assumed the metal of the key had broken. Later I realized that the metal does not extend up into the bulk of the handle. Real smart. Also, it seems that my driver's door is not used to a fresh steel key, and operates quite tightly, if at all with it. Maybe will shoot some teflon lube in there? And that is hard to believe, Bob, that there is but one Bio pump on PHX. Crazy. Chuck, Jim and I missed you when I was in the area last weekend. Brian 83 240D From: Bob Rentfro [EMAIL PROTECTED] Reply-To: Mercedes Discussion List [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: Biodiesel List [EMAIL PROTECTED] CC: Mercedes mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: [MBZ] Biodiesel, Keys and Red Devils Date: Mon, 27 Feb 2006 12:03:13 -0700 Had to drive into the stealership to order a stinkin' key today. The stupid plastic head cracked and the metal part of the key fell out and down ito the tracks of my seat somewhere. I reckon I'll have to take the seat out to retrieve the metal part. $40 for a stinkin' key. Who on the list was making nice wood ended (vice plastic) keys? Does anyone remember? Whenever I go to the stealership, I usually get a tank of biodiesel. We still only have one pump in all of Phoenix...a town with a billion gazillion people has ONE bio pump. It's criminal. It's also criminal how they continue to charge $2.859 for bio...but #2 is up to $2.649 here. I am always amazed how much smoother and quieter my car runs on bio. While getting the key, I got 20 or so red devils as Johnny B called them...to repair the floppy trim on my door. Just so all y'all know they are no longer red but they are white. I hope she gave me the right thing...and I hope Rusty doesn't say that he has them for less than $1 each...I'll feel like an idiot. Bob Rentfro '77 300D 149K '01 VW Beetle TDI 61K '87 Acura Legend 169K Litchfield Park, AZ ___ http://www.striplin.net For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://striplin.net/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_striplin.net _ Express yourself instantly with MSN Messenger! Download today - it's FREE! http://messenger.msn.click-url.com/go/onm00200471ave/direct/01/
Re: [MBZ] Hello from Santa Fe
So, if not very sensitive to rpms, are they sensitive to load? Not so much referring to the weight carried in the car, or the terrain, but I'm talking about whether you stab the accelerator vs. letting the rpms gradually climb? Brian 83 240D From: Jim Cathey [EMAIL PROTECTED] Reply-To: Mercedes Discussion List [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: Mercedes Discussion List [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: [MBZ] Hello from Santa Fe Date: Mon, 27 Feb 2006 09:26:11 -0800 Really? I keep forgetting to use 5th, I've gotten so used to a 4spd after 50kmi. I'm probably going an extra 10-15 miles out of my 80 mile round trip commute in 4th when I could be in 5th. I figure thats 50-75 miles a week. If I want best fuel economy I need to be driving more gently and getting into 5th at about 50mph right? These diesels are much less sensitive to RPM as a factor in mileage when compared to gassers. Consider the evidence of those who routinely run in S around town: essentially no change in mileage, even with a substantial portion of around-town driving. But yes, it ought to help some on the highway. (And might make a more significant difference in oil consumption.) -- Jim ___ http://www.striplin.net For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://striplin.net/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_striplin.net _ Dont just search. Find. Check out the new MSN Search! http://search.msn.click-url.com/go/onm00200636ave/direct/01/
Re: [MBZ] Sticky ignition lock
Guys, I'm in the same boat - but - it seems that the problem is not the tumbler, rather the thingie that causes the column to lock (a rod is it?) I bought and attempted to install a new tumbler. It is a different body though, and didn't seem like it would fit. Will have to see if dealer will make right for giving me wrong part. The point is: it really donesn't seem that the tumbler is the problem. My indie said it is often the locking rod, (which is spendy of course) and this makes sense to me. The tumbler actuates quite nicely, but if the wheel is ever bumped into lock position, it's locksville. I have said many a fervent prayer that it would unlock and not leave me stranded, facing the hundreds of dollars the list has warned me about. The times that it has successfully unlocked, it usually was when I was turning the wheel back and forth against the locks concurrent with twisting the key back and forth. Most recently, I developed the technique of rapidly kicking the bottom of the column while turning the wheel and twisting the key. (and praying) My solution WAS: when I turn off the engine, just don't turn it back all the way - to where the thing can lock. This way I can simply leave the key in and lock the doors for short errands and remove the tumbler for long errands. My solution became: I quickly realized that the key must be turned all the way back to zero every time one wants to run the starter. So now when I turn off the engine, I first make sure the wheel isn't turned, and thus doesn't want to turn back on its own and lock; I find the middle position in the slop of the wheel, and hold it steady there; I turn the key off, but not all the way; I quickly turn it to position zero, then back to position one all in half a second. Thus I have satisfied its requirement, and am ready for next time (sometimes I think I feel it want to lock on me even in that split second). I can now either lock the key in the car, or pull the tumbler out. Works for me, Wife hates it. My brother and came up with the thought: Could you drill or file another notch in the tumbler body (the chrome part that faces driver) so that a pin could be inserted when the key is in zero position, rather than having to be in position two? This seems like it would allow removal of tumbler, and would unlock tumbler, but might not unlock a locked column? Thoughts? (Other than just buy the new part). Also: Was it Luther that said to drip ATF down into it? Are you saying to drip some into the ignition hole while the tumbler is out? This is intriguing, as I've wondered if it might be the mechanism back in there that is causing the problem. What is the consensus? Brian 83 240D From: Luther Gulseth [EMAIL PROTECTED] Reply-To: Mercedes Discussion List [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: [MBZ] Sticky ignition lock Date: Mon, 27 Feb 2006 16:42:31 -0500 Also, take a small tube and drip some ATF down into the mechanism for the ignition. This was required on my Coupe after I installed a new tumbler. Luther ~Conventional wisdom is to order a new tumbler before disaster strikes. ~ ~On 2/27/06, Hendrik Riessen [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: ~ ~ I seems that the key in the ignition is starting to get a bit hard to turn ~ every now and then (well it sort of sticks and a bit more pressure is ~ required to turn it all the way), is there a recommended lubrication ~method? ~ Or is the key starting to wear? ~ ~ Hendrik ~ with 84 230E ~ ~ ~ -- Luther KB5QHU Alma, Ark '83 300SD (231,xxx kmi) '82 300CD (159,222 kmi) '82 300D (74,000 kmi) needs MAJOR work ___ http://www.striplin.net For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://striplin.net/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_striplin.net _ Express yourself instantly with MSN Messenger! Download today - it's FREE! http://messenger.msn.click-url.com/go/onm00200471ave/direct/01/
Re: [MBZ] OT Bedroom Communities
Respectfully, I'd submit that the bike trails can be used for transportation too. If I can do it in Minnesota year round, a lot of other people could too. However, most people wouldn't be caught dead on a bicycle - that's for kids and losers. I do realize that not everyone has the capability of riding though, and that's fine. Just had to put in two cents for the virtue of trails. We think they enhance a community. We are for a good commuter train system too. Though decidedly against cargo trains and the like going through town and across highways, bringing them to a halt. When a train comes, there is no way around. Hate that feeling. Guess it's a good excuse to be late for work. Hmmm. Brian 83 240D Lynn wrote: Only some type of train system would avoid getting stuck in traffic, and this state has been happily ripping out an extensive RR track system for the last 40 years, turning them into cutesy bike trails for recreation. From: ms.300SD [EMAIL PROTECTED] Reply-To: Mercedes Discussion List [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: Mercedes Discussion List [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: [MBZ] OT Bedroom Communities Date: Mon, 27 Feb 2006 15:44:30 -0800 Hey Hendrik, I'd ride public transportation to the city to work IF it was efficient, and better than driving a personal car. Meaning, here, public transportation means that you get on a bus near your home, then ride that bus, and likely transferring to another bus in order to get to your place of employment for the day. The bus travels part of it's trip on suburban roads, and part of it's trip on the freeway. Unfortunately, during rush hour, the bus gets stuck in traffic just like a car, and then there is no benefit to taking a bus. Also the bus stops every few blocks, and so there's more time wastage, not to mention the time you spend standing around waiting for the bus to come. What the brainwaves in Washington state fail to understand is that people will not take the bus to work as long as it gets stuck in traffic. Only some type of train system would avoid getting stuck in traffic, and this state has been happily ripping out an extensive RR track system for the last 40 years, turning them into cutesy bike trails for recreation. We used to have an extensive train and trolley system in Seattle. On the old downtown streets, you can see where the train tracks used to be All over! Well, HELLO! We needed those for transportation! Look at the Sounder train, it's popularity has beensteadily growing, more trains added, people love it! It's just a crying shame that so much rail has been ripped out. Anyway, it's not an elitist thing, it's an efficiency thing. It's why I HATE riding buses. Lynn in WA Victoria, '85 300SD 200K On 2/27/06, Hendrik Riessen [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Thanks for the explanation. Obviously it is similar over here with people living in the burbs and driving to the city. However the reason is mostly that it is a better place to raise kids than the central concrete jungle. That I can understand but why a single person or childless couple would want to live in the outskirts and commute everyday is a little beyond me. I suppose the reason people don't use public transport is because they don't want to meet the public. Hendrik in the burbs but not commuting - Original Message - From: Chuck Landenberger [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: Mercedes Discussion List [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Tuesday, February 28, 2006 8:22 AM Subject: Re: [MBZ] OT Bedroom Communities Hendrik, Bedroom Communities are located in city suburbs where people live, but only sleep/live. The work in the city. Unfortunately, too many of them commute by car and have a distain for public transportation or it is not sufficient to serve all of the suburbs (as is the case here in Phoenix Arizona where employment centers are not centrally located.) Perhaps the term bedroom communities is unique to US. Take care, Chuck On Feb 27, 2006, at 2:28 PM, LT Don wrote: What I was trying to say -- and not saying it too well -- is that certain parts of Dale City are rough neighborhoods. Crime happens almost anywhere, but it is more likely some places than in other places, based on history. On 2/27/06, Hendrik Riessen [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: -- 1977 240D 1983 VW Quantum turbo diesel 5-speed 1972 Honda CB-500K motorcycle http://www.airamericaradio.com/listen ___ http://www.striplin.net For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://striplin.net/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_striplin.net ___ http://www.striplin.net For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to:
Re: [MBZ] Cigarette Lighter?
Ha! That's choice. It seems the PO tore out the lighter. I saw in the owner's manual a drawing of it. It's gone. The PO apparently had a fetish with tearing out things and playing with the wires. Brian 83 240D From: dave walton [EMAIL PROTECTED] Reply-To: Mercedes Discussion List [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: Mercedes Discussion List [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: [MBZ] Cigarette Lighter? Date: Sat, 25 Feb 2006 13:21:50 -0500 Given how much Germans smoke, they should have them on the dash, and the sun visor, and the steering wheel, and on the seat between your legs, and in all the headrests, and probably a few outside the car as a courtesy to pedestrians. -Dave Walton 94S350, 99E300 On 2/25/06, Brian Chase [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Okay, why didn't anyone tell me there's no cigarette lighter in these things? this means no cel phone plug. Brian 83 240D _ Express yourself instantly with MSN Messenger! Download today - it's FREE! http://messenger.msn.click-url.com/go/onm00200471ave/direct/01/ ___ http://www.striplin.net For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://striplin.net/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_striplin.net ___ http://www.striplin.net For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://striplin.net/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_striplin.net _ Express yourself instantly with MSN Messenger! Download today - it's FREE! http://messenger.msn.click-url.com/go/onm00200471ave/direct/01/
Re: [MBZ] Hello from North Platte
Shoot. I was so determined to get home tonight that I didn't think of that. But I only knew of LT Don in Iowa. Who else is down there? Don't be surprised if I ask some questions about cold weather starting in the near future. We had a successful trip - the 240 ran great. No noticeable problems with those CV joints. No smoking, hardly any oil usage. Brian 83 240D From: LT Don [EMAIL PROTECTED] Reply-To: Mercedes Discussion List [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: Mercedes Discussion List [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: [MBZ] Hello from North Platte Date: Sat, 25 Feb 2006 09:53:37 -0600 Are you taking I-80 thru Iowa? Several of us live around it. On 2/25/06, Brian Chase [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Went beyond Denver to North Platte Nebraska. Sick of driving. 240 still functioning great, although while stuck in nasty Colorodo Springs traffic, I noticed a faint scraping sound when I'd let out the clutch to start off in first. Any ideas? Brian 83 240D _ On the road to retirement? Check out MSN Life Events for advice on how to get there! http://lifeevents.msn.com/category.aspx?cid=Retirement ___ http://www.striplin.net For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://striplin.net/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_striplin.net -- 1977 240D 1983 VW Quantum turbo diesel 5-speed 1972 Honda CB-500K motorcycle http://www.airamericaradio.com/listen ___ http://www.striplin.net For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://striplin.net/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_striplin.net _ Dont just search. Find. Check out the new MSN Search! http://search.msn.click-url.com/go/onm00200636ave/direct/01/
Re: [MBZ] Morning sluggishness
Thanks. You know what though, this morning was a different story. Nice pep at the same time and temp as yesterday's sluggishness. In fact, that's not the only inconsistency: The mileage suffered, falling from the high of 32.6 to around 25 on the next two tanks. I am baffled as to why. Does outside temperature affect mileage? We got the higher mileage in warmer weather. I mean the engine temp was running the same, but the outside temp was colder. Could it be elevation? Searching for solution, and hoping to get MPGs above 30 again - to make up for the price of diesel vs. gas. What's up? Brian 83 240d From: redghost [EMAIL PROTECTED] Reply-To: Mercedes Discussion List [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: Mercedes Discussion List [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: [MBZ] Morning sluggishness Date: Sat, 25 Feb 2006 14:43:47 -0800 Old Cold cars are not very happy until they have had a cup of coffee or two. Gump takes a few glows on colder mornings. I live a few miles from the freeway, so she has ample time to get up to temp. City driving in the AM she wants some time to wake up. consider it foreplay. Fluids are more viscous and the iron just takes a little longer to get hot enough for full combustion temps to be reached. Just my vista from a cheap old Benz On Friday, February 24, 2006, at 11:11 PM, Brian Chase wrote: Here's a topic you old timers can relate to: Is it common for these diesels to be sluggish when cold? This morning it seemed the thing was less peppy than the night before (insert your quips here). Was almost scarry trying to take off in traffic - I think it was almost floor-boarded and I barely got rolling. Things returned to somewhat normal after warming up to normal temp. And after tearing down the freeway for numerous miles, peppiness galore. There is no smoking, no signs of ill health otherwise. Brian 83 240D _ Dont just search. Find. Check out the new MSN Search! http://search.msn.click-url.com/go/onm00200636ave/direct/01/ ___ http://www.striplin.net For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://striplin.net/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_striplin.net -- Clay Seattle Bioburner 1972 220D - Gump 1995 E300D - Cleo 1987 300SDL - POS - DOA The FSM would drive a Diesel Benz ___ http://www.striplin.net For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://striplin.net/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_striplin.net _ Dont just search. Find. Check out the new MSN Search! http://search.msn.click-url.com/go/onm00200636ave/direct/01/
Re: [MBZ] Cigarette Lighter?
Yeah, I was figgerin on finding a yard around here to hunt. I also need the piece of wood trim on the far right side of dash (part that curves around). Also need glove box light (refer to PO's fetish). Also need manual shifter boot. For that matter, need antenna and radio, though considering a modern radio. If you want, let me know what you would get for the ash tray, and what it might cost to ship it here. Brian 83 240D From: Kaleb C. Striplin [EMAIL PROTECTED] Reply-To: Mercedes Discussion List [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: Mercedes Discussion List [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: [MBZ] Cigarette Lighter? Date: Sat, 25 Feb 2006 23:26:49 -0600 you should probably buy a new ash tray then, I have plenty. Brian Chase wrote: Ha! That's choice. It seems the PO tore out the lighter. I saw in the owner's manual a drawing of it. It's gone. The PO apparently had a fetish with tearing out things and playing with the wires. Brian 83 240D From: dave walton [EMAIL PROTECTED] Reply-To: Mercedes Discussion List [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: Mercedes Discussion List [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: [MBZ] Cigarette Lighter? Date: Sat, 25 Feb 2006 13:21:50 -0500 Given how much Germans smoke, they should have them on the dash, and the sun visor, and the steering wheel, and on the seat between your legs, and in all the headrests, and probably a few outside the car as a courtesy to pedestrians. -Dave Walton 94S350, 99E300 On 2/25/06, Brian Chase [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Okay, why didn't anyone tell me there's no cigarette lighter in these things? this means no cel phone plug. Brian 83 240D _ Express yourself instantly with MSN Messenger! Download today - it's FREE! http://messenger.msn.click-url.com/go/onm00200471ave/direct/01/ ___ http://www.striplin.net For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://striplin.net/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_striplin.net ___ http://www.striplin.net For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://striplin.net/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_striplin.net _ Express yourself instantly with MSN Messenger! Download today - it's FREE! http://messenger.msn.click-url.com/go/onm00200471ave/direct/01/ ___ http://www.striplin.net For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://striplin.net/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_striplin.net -- Kaleb C. Striplin/Claremore, OK 89 560SEL, 87 300SDL, 85 380SE, 85 300D, 84 250 LWB, 83 300TD, 81 300TD, 81 240D, 81 240D, 76 450SEL, 76 240D, 76 300D, 74 240D, 69 250 http://www.striplin.net ___ http://www.striplin.net For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://striplin.net/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_striplin.net _ Is your PC infected? Get a FREE online computer virus scan from McAfee® Security. http://clinic.mcafee.com/clinic/ibuy/campaign.asp?cid=3963
Re: [MBZ] Hello from North Platte
Yeah, I saw that frappr some time ago and asked what it was about. Recently talked to Chuck and was reminded of it. I shall get about putting a picture on it. Brian 83 240D From: Sunil Hari [EMAIL PROTECTED] Reply-To: Mercedes Discussion List [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: Mercedes Discussion List [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: [MBZ] Hello from North Platte Date: Sat, 25 Feb 2006 22:29:03 -0500 I just registered, but don't have a photo of my car yet. On 2/25/06, OK Don [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: That's what http://www.frappr.com/benzbunch is for -- Is everyone registered? On 2/25/06, LT Don [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: There are a couple in the Ames / Des Moines area (about an hour east / southeast) of me. On 2/25/06, Brian Chase [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Shoot. I was so determined to get home tonight that I didn't think of that. But I only knew of LT Don in Iowa. Who else is down there? -- OK Don, KD5NRO Norman, OK '90 300D 243K, Rattled '87 300SDL 290K, Limo Lite, or blue car '81 240D 173K, Gramps, or yellow car '78 450SLC 67K, brown car '97 Ply Grand Voyager 78K Van Go ___ http://www.striplin.net For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://striplin.net/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_striplin.net -- Sunil Hari 1992 300D 2.5T - 286Kmi. [EMAIL PROTECTED] 513-205-7474 ___ http://www.striplin.net For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://striplin.net/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_striplin.net _ Express yourself instantly with MSN Messenger! Download today - it's FREE! http://messenger.msn.click-url.com/go/onm00200471ave/direct/01/
Re: [MBZ] Morning sluggishness
You know, that makes the most sense of anything I can think of. And that sucks, as it's cold most of the year around here. Although, we aren't really planning on driving the thing during the salty season. For that matter, I was going to ask the cold-climate listers what they do about deciding whether to store their klattas in the winter, or drive them, and if they store them, do they start them like once a week, or do they pull out the battery and really mothball them. Brian 83 240D From: John Berryman [EMAIL PROTECTED] Reply-To: Mercedes Discussion List [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: Mercedes Discussion List [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: [MBZ] Morning sluggishness Date: Sat, 25 Feb 2006 22:24:54 -0500 On Feb 25, 2006, at 10:01 PM, Brian Chase wrote: In fact, that's not the only inconsistency: The mileage suffered, falling from the high of 32.6 to around 25 on the next two tanks. I am baffled as to why. Does outside temperature affect mileage? We got the higher mileage in warmer weather. I mean the engine temp was running the same, but the outside temp was colder. Could it be elevation? Searching for solution, and hoping to get MPGs above 30 again - to make up for the price of diesel vs. gas. What's up? Brian 83 240d You may be getting winterized fuel, you can expect to get lower mpgs with it. Johnny B. I Mac Therefore I am ___ http://www.striplin.net For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://striplin.net/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_striplin.net _ Express yourself instantly with MSN Messenger! Download today - it's FREE! http://messenger.msn.click-url.com/go/onm00200471ave/direct/01/
[MBZ] No starter response
Another issue! We took the 240 out to the pub tonight, and when I jumped in to start it I got zero response when I tried to engaged the starter. I glowed like normal, then turned the key to start and nothing. This was repeated another time or two, then the next time - success - the starter ran like normal. Had to glow again to get a start. It is around 10 degrees out here tonight, and we were in the pub for some three hours. Was just glad not to have to call a tow or try to figure out the problem in the cold while the wife waited. But dreading it happening again. Sound like a bad connection somewhere? Or what? Brian 83 240D _ Is your PC infected? Get a FREE online computer virus scan from McAfee® Security. http://clinic.mcafee.com/clinic/ibuy/campaign.asp?cid=3963
Re: [MBZ] No starter response
Thanks for concise info. So, when the thing wants to be put in neutral, and perhaps jiggled, this is related to the starter solenoid? Okay. Will look toward getting a reman starter. From: OK Don [EMAIL PROTECTED] Reply-To: Mercedes Discussion List [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: Mercedes Discussion List [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: [MBZ] No starter response Date: Sun, 26 Feb 2006 11:52:35 -0600 What he just said -- BTDT. On 2/26/06, John Berryman [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Try it in neutral (if its automatic), your shift linkage or neutral safety switch may be out of adjustment. In most cases this is an indicator that the starter solenoid is about to completely fail. Sometimes when this starts to happen you can jump directly to the solenoid from the battery, shortening the circuit and providing more current to the solenoid. Start thinking about installing a reman Bosch starter because 9 times out of 10 that is the only cure. Unless of course you're cheap and want to go for a solenoid only. The down side to this is the rest of the starter is just as tired. Johnny B. I Mac Therefore I am -- OK Don, KD5NRO Norman, OK '90 300D 243K, Rattled '87 300SDL 290K, Limo Lite, or blue car '81 240D 173K, Gramps, or yellow car '78 450SLC 67K, brown car '97 Ply Grand Voyager 78K Van Go ___ http://www.striplin.net For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://striplin.net/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_striplin.net _ Dont just search. Find. Check out the new MSN Search! http://search.msn.click-url.com/go/onm00200636ave/direct/01/
[MBZ] Cigarette Lighter?
Okay, why didn't anyone tell me there's no cigarette lighter in these things? this means no cel phone plug. Brian 83 240D _ Express yourself instantly with MSN Messenger! Download today - it's FREE! http://messenger.msn.click-url.com/go/onm00200471ave/direct/01/
[MBZ] Hello from North Platte
Went beyond Denver to North Platte Nebraska. Sick of driving. 240 still functioning great, although while stuck in nasty Colorodo Springs traffic, I noticed a faint scraping sound when I'd let out the clutch to start off in first. Any ideas? Brian 83 240D _ On the road to retirement? Check out MSN Life Events for advice on how to get there! http://lifeevents.msn.com/category.aspx?cid=Retirement
Re: [MBZ] Cigarette Lighter?
Yup. I looked in the ash tray a couple times - didn't see a lighter. I really did look. I've been known to miss things though. Will try again in morning. Brian From: Zeitgeist [EMAIL PROTECTED] Reply-To: Mercedes Discussion List [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: Mercedes Discussion List [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: [MBZ] Cigarette Lighter? Date: Fri, 24 Feb 2006 22:35:03 -0800 Have you opened your ash tray yet? It should reside just forward of your shifter. On 2/24/06, Brian Chase [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Okay, why didn't anyone tell me there's no cigarette lighter in these things? this means no cel phone plug. Casey Olympia, WA Biodiesel: I drive in a persistent vegetative state '87 300TD intercooler (211k) '84 300D (210k) Gashuffer: '89 Vanagon Wolfsburg Edition (187K) ___ http://www.striplin.net For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://striplin.net/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_striplin.net _ Dont just search. Find. Check out the new MSN Search! http://search.msn.click-url.com/go/onm00200636ave/direct/01/
Re: [MBZ] Hello from Santa Fe
To answer your question: I suppose I'll drive with the ripped boot as long as I can. I'm hoping that will be a bit longer than this trip. No noises yet. I packed both ripped boots (trying to get it up toward the joint) with grease, then wrapped them to try and keep as much grease in the vicinity as possible. I was told by my brother that I'm wasting my time - the grease will all just fly out, and I should just leave it alone and drive (so less dirt would be attracted), but I thought the more grease placed in there, the better. Thoughts? I will try to be creative later, once home. I am thinking of sewing them up with fishing line, then gluing the seam with gorilla glue. I know - generic - but may as well shoot for the money savings. Brian 83 240D From: John Berryman [EMAIL PROTECTED] Reply-To: Mercedes Discussion List [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: Mercedes Discussion List [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: [MBZ] Hello from Santa Fe Date: Fri, 24 Feb 2006 12:36:57 -0500 On Feb 24, 2006, at 12:14 PM, Brian Chase wrote: We got, if I recall, some 34.6 MPG over some hilly terrain, 34.6mpg? You should have no problem selling it on e-bay with that kind of fuel mileage. Are you sure you figgered that correctly? How far are you planning to go with the ripped boot? Mine lasted several thousand miles. The CV-joint is shot but it still moves the car at highway speeds. Johnny B. I Mac Therefore I am ___ http://www.striplin.net For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://striplin.net/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_striplin.net _ Dont just search. Find. Check out the new MSN Search! http://search.msn.click-url.com/go/onm00200636ave/direct/01/
[MBZ] Morning sluggishness
Here's a topic you old timers can relate to: Is it common for these diesels to be sluggish when cold? This morning it seemed the thing was less peppy than the night before (insert your quips here). Was almost scarry trying to take off in traffic - I think it was almost floor-boarded and I barely got rolling. Things returned to somewhat normal after warming up to normal temp. And after tearing down the freeway for numerous miles, peppiness galore. There is no smoking, no signs of ill health otherwise. Brian 83 240D _ Dont just search. Find. Check out the new MSN Search! http://search.msn.click-url.com/go/onm00200636ave/direct/01/
Re: [MBZ] Cigarette Lighter?
Didn't see a hole - just what looked like a three prong outlet type array of slits (on left side). Will look this morn. Brian From: Jim Cathey [EMAIL PROTECTED] Reply-To: Mercedes Discussion List [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: Mercedes Discussion List [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: [MBZ] Cigarette Lighter? Date: Fri, 24 Feb 2006 23:23:34 -0800 Yup. I looked in the ash tray a couple times - didn't see a lighter. I really did look. I've been known to miss things though. Will try again in morning. Lighter may be lost, they often are. But there should be a nice round hole where it used to live, into which you can plug your phone. It should be lit when the tray's open, but the bulb is often burnt out. -- Jim ___ http://www.striplin.net For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://striplin.net/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_striplin.net _ FREE pop-up blocking with the new MSN Toolbar get it now! http://toolbar.msn.click-url.com/go/onm00200415ave/direct/01/
[MBZ] Spotted 300CD for sale
I actually drove the thing today. Shifts real hard and with a jerk. I would envy that type of shift in my musclecar, but with this auto, it seems to indicate a problem? Or something not as it should be? I told him to check the fluid, and it was below the second mark. It took a couple seconds to drop into gear (both D and R) and this is what made me tell him to check the level. The rear windows act funny, sort of hesitating, and then catching up. He says it's no problem. By the way, it's an '82 I believe and he is asking $6500. I know - too much. Anyway, I don't think it's worth the risk to us. The wife expressed interest in it. Brian 83 240D _ On the road to retirement? Check out MSN Life Events for advice on how to get there! http://lifeevents.msn.com/category.aspx?cid=Retirement
[MBZ] Spotted 300CD for sale
Driving around here in Tucson, I spotted an '82 CD for sale. I caught the owner as he came out of his jewelry shop. He says he is very interested in selling quickly to make room in his garage. The thing looks real nice - light tan, clean from what I saw. Said the tranny was slipping but he had it fixed. Moonroof doesn't work. I think he wants either 5500. or 6500. I forget. I got his number if anyone wants it. Oh, 141k mi. No affiliation. Brian _ FREE pop-up blocking with the new MSN Toolbar get it now! http://toolbar.msn.click-url.com/go/onm00200415ave/direct/01/
Re: [MBZ] The time has come (again)
Hey that sounds interesting. I may try something like that. Thanks. Brian From: R A Bennell [EMAIL PROTECTED] Reply-To: Mercedes Discussion List [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: Mercedes Discussion List [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: [MBZ] The time has come (again) Date: Thu, 16 Feb 2006 15:21:27 -0800 How about a few wraps of some sort of shrink wrap around the cracked boot to keep the grease in until you get a chance to fix it? Sounds wierd but it might work. Things like tape probably wouldn't work well as the sticky may not handle the grease but shrink wrap might be ok and especially if applied while you are where it is warm. Randy B -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Behalf Of Brian Chase Sent: Thursday, February 16, 2006 12:56 PM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: [MBZ] The time has come (again) Flying out tomorrow (if temps are not too low to fly) to retrieve the 240D. Will be flying into Phoenix, speding some time there, then head down to Tucson where the auto awaits. Will be driving around, enjoying a little vacation in my home town, and then will drive back to MN, with grease gun in trunk for replenishing the axle with the cracked boot. Send good List-vibes for our journey. Brian 83 240D ___ http://www.striplin.net For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://striplin.net/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_striplin.net _ Express yourself instantly with MSN Messenger! Download today - it's FREE! http://messenger.msn.click-url.com/go/onm00200471ave/direct/01/
[MBZ] The time has come (again)
Flying out tomorrow (if temps are not too low to fly) to retrieve the 240D. Will be flying into Phoenix, speding some time there, then head down to Tucson where the auto awaits. Will be driving around, enjoying a little vacation in my home town, and then will drive back to MN, with grease gun in trunk for replenishing the axle with the cracked boot. Send good List-vibes for our journey. Brian 83 240D _ Express yourself instantly with MSN Messenger! Download today - it's FREE! http://messenger.msn.click-url.com/go/onm00200471ave/direct/01/
Re: [MBZ] Holed the Pan
When I holed my aluminum pan on the big war wagon, I had it welded, and it's held for like fifteen years now. It would seem that if aluminum could handle it, steel could. Maybe go for the cheaper option? Brian From: Marshall Booth [EMAIL PROTECTED] Reply-To: Mercedes Discussion List [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: Mercedes Discussion List [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: [MBZ] Holed the Pan Date: Sat, 11 Feb 2006 19:12:20 -0500 redghost wrote: Do these weld for repair, or should I just get two from Rusty for when the Karma Bug bites me again? I'd get a new pan from a recycler. Most people don't tear a hole in the pan more than once - but if you're a really slow learner Marshall -- Marshall Booth (who doesn't respond to unsigned questions) der Dieseling Doktor [EMAIL PROTECTED] '87 300TD 182Kmi, '84 190D 2.2 229Kmi, '85 190D 2.0 161Kmi, '87 190D 2.5 turbo 237kmi ___ http://www.striplin.net For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://striplin.net/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_striplin.net _ On the road to retirement? Check out MSN Life Events for advice on how to get there! http://lifeevents.msn.com/category.aspx?cid=Retirement
Re: [MBZ] Holed the Pan
No joke? A new oil pan for $30? I'd have expected 8 times that. I should get one just in case. Or better yet, I'd like to fashion a skid plate. Brian 83 240D From: Trampas [EMAIL PROTECTED] Reply-To: Mercedes Discussion List [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: 'Mercedes Discussion List' [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: [MBZ] Holed the Pan Date: Sat, 11 Feb 2006 19:49:30 -0500 I got one from Rusty awhile back, never used it but as I recall it was only about $30. Trampas -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of redghost Sent: Saturday, February 11, 2006 7:22 PM To: Mercedes Discussion List Subject: Re: [MBZ] Holed the Pan Marshall, I am very slow, slow as my car. That is what surprised me, was I hit something going fast enough that it had force enough to go through the pan. There seems to be a dearth of 61x pans in the local market at the moment. I do want the car back on the road, and if a spare is around, I will be happy knowing whatever mystery pan killer was out there can not keep me off the road for long. On Saturday, February 11, 2006, at 04:12 PM, Marshall Booth wrote: redghost wrote: Do these weld for repair, or should I just get two from Rusty for when the Karma Bug bites me again? I'd get a new pan from a recycler. Most people don't tear a hole in the pan more than once - but if you're a really slow learner Marshall -- Marshall Booth (who doesn't respond to unsigned questions) der Dieseling Doktor [EMAIL PROTECTED] '87 300TD 182Kmi, '84 190D 2.2 229Kmi, '85 190D 2.0 161Kmi, '87 190D 2.5 turbo 237kmi ___ http://www.striplin.net For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://striplin.net/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_striplin.net -- Clay Seattle Bioburner 1972 220D - Gump 1995 E300D - Cleo 1987 300SDL - POS - DOA The FSM would drive a Diesel Benz ___ http://www.striplin.net For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://striplin.net/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_striplin.net ___ http://www.striplin.net For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://striplin.net/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_striplin.net _ Express yourself instantly with MSN Messenger! Download today - it's FREE! http://messenger.msn.click-url.com/go/onm00200471ave/direct/01/
[MBZ] OT tapping in Honda - was motor oil saver
Yep, it's the tappita sound. Initial thought, before I considered that it is probably overhead cam, was that it was lifters not getting oil right away. At any rate, it sounds like something is not getting oil right away, as the sound fades out in about 1 - 3 seconds. I think that the dealer adjusted the valves not too many thouand miles ago. At any rate, they don't say there's anything wrong with the car. Brian 83 240D 00 Honda CRV (wife's) (neat car, but disappointing mileage and rollover risk) David wrote: If it's a lighter tappita tappita sound, you may need a valve adjustment. Most Hondas have solid lifters. The valve adjustment spec was originally every 15,000 miles, but that was amended to only when noisy some time in the '90s. _ Is your PC infected? Get a FREE online computer virus scan from McAfee® Security. http://clinic.mcafee.com/clinic/ibuy/campaign.asp?cid=3963
[MBZ] Fuel Priming - was 100 dollar diesel
That sounds interesting - your priming technique. Do you mind if I ask for some reiteration? After you remove the fuel return line, you are saying that you place an air hose in the fuel filler neck (as in where you stick the diesel nozzle at the gas station), and wrap a rag around it to seal, then hit the air? Not meaning to sound simplistic, just a surprising sounding technique to this novice. Also: I've wondered about that fuel primer thing on the driver side of engine. I know what it is for, and have read the blurb on it in the owners manual, but every time I've tried to use it, it spooges fuel with each pump - as in, all over my fingers and down the primer pump there. This gave me the impression that I was doing it wrong, or that it was broken. But maybe that is what it is supposed to do when the system is in fact already primed? I know, simple questions from me lately, but remember that despite owning this auto for some 1.5 years, I have only gotten to use it for a 3 or 4 days. That will hopefully be changing here in a week or so. 'Preciate any answers. Brian 83 240D ~The problem could be the injection pump lost it's prime. Here is a great ~trick to gain prime if you don't like the hand pump... ~ ~Remove the return fuel line. Place air hose in fill neck for fuel, seal with ~rag and watch fuel come out of return line. When fuel flows good, system is ~primed. Works great on diesels with out hand pumps! I got a diesel Topaz ~once because it would not run after owner ran out of fuel, rag and air hose ~fixed it. ~ ~After system has good prime, try tow starting. If will not start check ~compression and injectors and injection pump. ~ ~Trampas ~ -- Luther KB5QHU Alma, Ark '83 300SD (230,xxx kmi) '82 300CD (158,222 kmi) '90 300E '82 300D (parts or run?) ___ http://www.striplin.net For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://striplin.net/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_striplin.net _ Dont just search. Find. Check out the new MSN Search! http://search.msn.click-url.com/go/onm00200636ave/direct/01/
Re: [MBZ] Walmart vs NAPA auto
Your'e kidding. Wow. I didn't look at the link yet, but that's shocking to me - taxpayers picking up health care insurance for these employees. Doesn't seem right at all. I'll chime in here with my opinion since everyone else is: I've heard a lot of anti WalMart talk lately in certain circles, and have assumed that some was justified, some may not be. It is interesting to me, though, that where one shops seems to say something about them. This speaks to the emerging classism that may be replacing racism in this country IMHO. Kind of interesting for me to observe that there are some people that frequent WalMart and Burger King, and others that frequent Target and Panera. I'm certainly not passing blanket judgement on WalMart shoppers - some of my family and best friends go there, and they're quality folks. We have just found it to be really annoying and less a nice experience to shop there. But I only have the luxury of saying this since being married to a woman with a much better career than I have. Were it not for that, I would be hitting WallyWorld all the time (but late, late at night when folks are not setting their cretins, er, kids loose in there to tire them out in the free air conditioning or heat). Brian From: David Brodbeck [EMAIL PROTECTED] Reply-To: Mercedes Discussion List [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: Mercedes Discussion List [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: [MBZ] Walmart vs NAPA auto Date: Sat, 11 Feb 2006 00:57:06 -0800 Just ran across this today. The Washington State government is subsidizing Wal-Mart to the tune of $12 million a year, by paying for employee health care: http://seattletimes.nwsource.com/html/localnews/2002791346_walmart07m.html?syndication=rss The question is, is it really fair for an enormously profitable corporation to improve their bottom line by pushing the cost of keeping their employees healthy onto the taxpayers? They've found a way to externalize one of the biggest expenses their competitors have. If a company decided to stop maintaining its truck fleet's condition and just run them until they broke, we'd say it was stupid. But when a company like Wal Mart decides to stop maintaining their employees' health and just use them until they go onto public assistance, it's seen as a brilliant business move and they're rewarded for it. ___ http://www.striplin.net For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://striplin.net/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_striplin.net _ Dont just search. Find. Check out the new MSN Search! http://search.msn.click-url.com/go/onm00200636ave/direct/01/
Re: [MBZ] Walmart vs NAPA auto
I'm sure you're right. I tend to see things as emerging or new, probably owning to my tender age. Brian From: David Brodbeck [EMAIL PROTECTED] Reply-To: Mercedes Discussion List [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: Mercedes Discussion List [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: [MBZ] Walmart vs NAPA auto Date: Sat, 11 Feb 2006 12:53:38 -0800 Brian Chase wrote: where one shops seems to say something about them. This speaks to the emerging classism that may be replacing racism in this country IMHO. The only part of that statement I'd take issue with is emerging. It's *always* been a myth that America is a classless society. The difference is, it used to be that you could work your way up the ladder. You could start as a lower class trailer trash kid, go to work in an auto plant, and lift yourself into the middle class. If you were good, you could even climb into the white collar ranks and eventually retire comfortably with a nice pension, a boat, and a cabin up north. That's no longer the case. Our economy has changed, the gap between rich and poor has widened, and people are increasingly stuck in situations where they can never climb, only descend. To make the situation worse, those who don't have a lot of financial resources no longer have the ear of government. They lack the money to play the political contribution game and buy access to politicians -- so all the tax breaks and benefits are increasingly going to the wealthy, widening the gap even more. ___ http://www.striplin.net For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://striplin.net/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_striplin.net _ Express yourself instantly with MSN Messenger! Download today - it's FREE! http://messenger.msn.click-url.com/go/onm00200471ave/direct/01/
Re: [MBZ] Wipers
3 Years - that's good use. Wipers up here in MN tend to really get put through it. Especially if you're like me and let them do some ice scraping for me, rather than standing out there and scraping it myself. Gosh, I doubt I'd ever treat my wipers, though I should. Brian From: Tom Scordato [EMAIL PROTECTED] Reply-To: Mercedes Discussion List [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: Mercedes Discussion List [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: [MBZ] Wipers Date: Sat, 11 Feb 2006 16:33:06 -0500 Brian I have had Bosch Micro edges up north in PA for almost three years same pair on my 77 300D. I clean once in a while with 303 Aerospace protectorant Just showing signs of wear, but never make that funky noise or skip. Make sure you have no wax on your windshield/Tom - Original Message - From: Brian Chase [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Saturday, February 11, 2006 3:56 PM Subject: [MBZ] Wipers What do you guys think of Bosch wipers? I'd always bought Anco just 'cause I was used to 'em, but began to take note of how they begin to streak after just a couple uses. One night I picked up some Bosches, and they're better. I also recently got talked into buying the Bosch platinum or whatever the more expensive type is because they were offering a free $10 gift card. I'm not sure that I've noticed a difference with the more expensive Bosches over the regular Bosches. Brian 83 240D someone - forgot who - wrote: After seeing someone either here or mercedesshop mention Michelin wipers, I found them at WalMart today, $5.76 in all sizes up to 24. I bought one to replace a torn wiper on my Taurus. It was made in USA by Pylon, which has a license to sell wipers under the Michelin name. I drove home on a wet salty freeway, and can report that it wiped clean without chatter. I like it better than the ANCO Aerovantage blades on that car. I'll buy one for the other side next time I'm in town. _ On the road to retirement? Check out MSN Life Events for advice on how to get there! http://lifeevents.msn.com/category.aspx?cid=Retirement ___ http://www.striplin.net For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://striplin.net/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_striplin.net ___ http://www.striplin.net For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://striplin.net/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_striplin.net _ Dont just search. Find. Check out the new MSN Search! http://search.msn.click-url.com/go/onm00200636ave/direct/01/
Re: [MBZ] Oil filter leak
Good info. By gear wrench, you are referring to a ratchet, as in socket wrench? May sound like a simple question, but just making sure you aren't talking about a flat wrench (as in box end/open end) with a ratchet mechanism. By the sounds of it, the clearance in there is so little that a ratchet would have trouble fitting. Also, can you expand on the whole leaving one of the bolts for last thing? Is that just for purposes of alignment? 'preciate the details. Brian From: John Berryman [EMAIL PROTECTED] Reply-To: Mercedes Discussion List [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: Mercedes Discussion List [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: [MBZ] Oil filter leak Date: Thu, 9 Feb 2006 17:10:25 -0500 On Thursday, February 9, 2006, at 03:57 PM, John Ervine wrote: Yeah, it's a pain. It's a decision of Do I want to fool around with rring the steering box to gain better access, or do I want to spend twice as long with a very short allen? I have a combination of tools that I use for the job. Gear wrench with allen adapter . You still have to take it out and put it back in with the one bolt in it. You'd hate to find out after you saved that bolt for last. Johnny B. I Mac Therefore I am ___ http://www.striplin.net For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://striplin.net/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_striplin.net _ FREE pop-up blocking with the new MSN Toolbar get it now! http://toolbar.msn.click-url.com/go/onm00200415ave/direct/01/
Re: [MBZ] Motor Oil Saver
You know, I gotta say that I have long wondered if I should be using one of these oil additives. They sound so great. (Like ProLong, Slick 50, and the like. There's one that I'm forgetting, the infomercial for which I just love - has me convinced ever time). I just wish I could try them out on someone else's vehicle. Seems like there has to be a catch. Sort of like switching to Mobil 1. It's like, if it was so beneficial, why isn't everyone doing it? My wife's Honda CRV makes tapping noises every time it's started up. Makes me want to have something in there to keep things coated. And if I could extend the life of my old cars, I'd sure do it. Just wonder about the side effects, e.g. you put this stuff in your engine or tranny and half a year later something goes caput, leaving you to wonder if it would've happened had you not made that choice. Note: this is technically not an oil thread, so I cannot be excommunicated. Brian 83 240D From: Curt Raymond [EMAIL PROTECTED] Reply-To: Mercedes Discussion List [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: Diesel List [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: [MBZ] Motor Oil Saver Date: Thu, 9 Feb 2006 16:56:34 -0800 (PST) Lubro-Moly has a website, the Motor Oil Saver seems alot like Auto Rx to me. I'm considering one or the other come springtime in the 190D (and the 240D for that matter but that won't be my car by then) if nothing else for a psychological effect. Anyway from their website: - reduces oil consumption via the piston rings and valve guides - prevents blue, smoky exhaust fumes - prevents leaks due to leaks at elastomeric seals - regenerates engine seals made of plastic and rubber - reduces engine noises - prevents pollution of the environment due to oil dripping from the engine Puts an end to oil patches contaminating the environment both on the road and in the garage. Oil Leak Stop regenerates rubber and plastic engine seals and reduces oil consumption via the piston rings (due to constant visco-sity) and via valve guides (due to regenerated seals). Prevents blue smoke in the exhaust gases. Compensates for a drop in viscosity and reduces engine noise. Operational area: Suitable for all petrol and Diesel engines and compatible with all commercially available engine oils. 300 ml is sufficient for 3 -- 4 litres of engine oil. Sealing first takes effect after about 600 -- 800 km. -Curt - Yahoo! Mail Use Photomail to share photos without annoying attachments. ___ http://www.striplin.net For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://striplin.net/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_striplin.net _ Dont just search. Find. Check out the new MSN Search! http://search.msn.click-url.com/go/onm00200636ave/direct/01/
[MBZ] Oil filter leak
You will be able to tell this question comes from someone who hasn't put in many miles in their 240D yet: Regarding the oil filter: There is a remote, drop-in-element type filter, correct? I thought it was mounted on the firewall. Am I incorrect? Are there two oil filters - a remote one, and a traditional block-mounted, screw-on type? Reason asked: The mechanic says there's a leak at the fuel filter housing gasket. And he says it's mounted to the engine block. My mind is picturing that unit on the driver's side of the engine that (I thought) was mounted to the firewall. I'm trippin out. Maybe that is the fuel filter. Hardcore dieselers: try to disguise your disgust. I know, I should look at the manual on CD. I don't have it with me right now. By way of clarification, the car isn't near me either. I know the gasket will be inexpensive, but wonder if the dealer will take a few days to order it in. Won't be able to provide part no. (as in for Rusty) 'til I actually get my hands on the car. And by that time I won't have much time for it to be shipped to me. Brian 83 240D _ Dont just search. Find. Check out the new MSN Search! http://search.msn.click-url.com/go/onm00200636ave/direct/01/
[MBZ] Oil filter leak
Oop, that will be confusing. I meant to say the mechanic says there is a leak at the OIL filter housing gasket, not a fuel leak like I mistakenly wrote in my previous post. Brian _ Express yourself instantly with MSN Messenger! Download today - it's FREE! http://messenger.msn.click-url.com/go/onm00200471ave/direct/01/
Re: [MBZ] Oil filter leak
Great. Thanks for the answers! I will try tightening before replacing. Johnny B says it's a pain to replace. I don't like that type of pain. Brian 83 240D From: B Dike [EMAIL PROTECTED] Reply-To: Mercedes Discussion List [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: Mercedes Discussion List [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: [MBZ] Oil filter leak Date: Thu, 9 Feb 2006 12:33:24 -0800 (PST) Brian, Leaks are common at that point. Most can be eliminated by simply tightening the allen bolts holding the oil filter housing to the block. The gasket is simple to replace if necessary. Good Luck, Bruce Brian Chase [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Oop, that will be confusing. I meant to say the mechanic says there is a leak at the OIL filter housing gasket, not a fuel leak like I mistakenly wrote in my previous post. Brian _ Express yourself instantly with MSN Messenger! Download today - it's FREE! http://messenger.msn.click-url.com/go/onm00200471ave/direct/01/ ___ http://www.striplin.net For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://striplin.net/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_striplin.net Bruce 82 300CD 334kmi 'His' 85 300CD 240kmi 'Hers' 75 240D 202kmi 'Donner' 77 240D 204kmi 'Blitzen' 73 220D 'It' - Yahoo! Mail Use Photomail to share photos without annoying attachments. ___ http://www.striplin.net For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://striplin.net/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_striplin.net _ Express yourself instantly with MSN Messenger! Download today - it's FREE! http://messenger.msn.click-url.com/go/onm00200471ave/direct/01/
Re: [MBZ] Oil filter leak
Maybe this is why the indie quoted me some $160 to do it. In the same conversation he said it was easy to do. Hmm. I think he just didn't want to mess with it. Hopefully the leak is slow and perhaps can be made slower by tightening. I wouldn't think the paper gasket would be too susceptible to splitting from overtightening? Of course it's probably cracked from sitting in the dryness and heat. Brian From: John Ervine [EMAIL PROTECTED] Reply-To: Mercedes Discussion List [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: Mercedes Discussion List [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: [MBZ] Oil filter leak Date: Thu, 09 Feb 2006 15:57:52 -0500 John Berryman wrote: Its a real common leak and a pain to change. Wouldn't attempt with my sunday best on. Yeah, it's a pain. It's a decision of Do I want to fool around with rring the steering box to gain better access, or do I want to spend twice as long with a very short allen? -- John L. Ervine 1981 240D 4-spd 270+kmi 1980 300TD 175+kmi 1980 300SD 277+kmi 1977 280S 4-spd 81+kmi 1976 350SE 4-spd 163+kmi ___ http://www.striplin.net For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://striplin.net/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_striplin.net _ Dont just search. Find. Check out the new MSN Search! http://search.msn.click-url.com/go/onm00200636ave/direct/01/
Re: [MBZ] How I found this Group
Aww. Nice to hear all of ya waxing eloquent as you recount your introduction to Benzes. It inspires me to re-post this little tale that I posted a few weeks back. - snip - ... reminds me of the way a certain exceedingly anal and superior woman customer at the service station I used to work at used to tell us to fill up her 124. In some sort of southern-ish accent it was always Feel it with Dezel. Man, she was so bent on making sure we knew she was above us in society. Duh. That job actually was my first exposure to Mercedes diesels. We used to call them rabid mobies only because of the foamy nature of diesel. And we could always hear them coming before we saw them, owing to what I now know as the klatta klatta. They almost invariably came into full serve. Didn't get too nervous around these luxury autos after a while. I remember some unfortunate new employee, however, who left the nozzle in a guy's Jaguar, allowing him to pull away. OOOPS. Ah, memories. Now I'm a rabid mobiler. Our very strong interest in fuel mileage, and a show on PBS about a lady here in Minn. running WVO in her Mercedes Diesel sparked our exploration of what it might take to get one of these autos. Increasingly dependent on the internet (though I fought it for a long time), I did a search for the topic, and the link to MBZ.org was the first I looked at. It did a great job at giving me a feel for what's up with owning one of them, and how surprisingly inexpensive a used one can be (despite what some folks try to charge - there is such a gap in the selling prices!) Brian 83 240D _ Express yourself instantly with MSN Messenger! Download today - it's FREE! http://messenger.msn.click-url.com/go/onm00200471ave/direct/01/
Re: [MBZ] 240 d
Hi Joe, I actually don't have much help to offer (rather new myself) but your post just reminds me of where I was not long ago. We wish you the best in finding that 240 you desire. I found that looking on AutoTrader.com and the like quite useless (most are overpriced, some seemed real shady - a lot of dealers - and none near my home). Quite often, listers will post ads that they have found. A lot of them look nice, but I never did see one anywhere near my area. I wound up finding mine through my brother who spotted it while out on a walk. Just wanted to say best of luck. Brian 83 240D From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Reply-To: Mercedes Discussion List [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: [MBZ] 240 d Date: Fri, 3 Feb 2006 20:33:27 EST Hey everyone , you'll quickly realize what a neophyte i am ( Naive ? ) but here it goes i have always wanted a MBZ 240 D , in a 123 body style and it looks like this might be the year to find one ! i have'nt got a clue of what i should be looking for , i know what i want a 82 -83 240 D in yellow w/ sunroof and complimentary interior in pristine condition with as low a miles as possibly , is this doable ? any help on what i should be boning up on ? re books , manuals , tech notes ? and what tell tale signs on the actual vehicle i should look for any and all information welcomed Thanx . Joe Gomez . Boise Idaho ___ http://www.striplin.net For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://striplin.net/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_striplin.net _ Is your PC infected? Get a FREE online computer virus scan from McAfee® Security. http://clinic.mcafee.com/clinic/ibuy/campaign.asp?cid=3963
Re: [MBZ] Rear half shafts
Yep, the diagnosis was head gasket. This indie is not very talkative and we have never met face to face. So he says it was a head gasket, so I just have to be satisfied with that. He's the kind of guy that won't offer any more information than he has to. In fact he didn't call us to let us know the car was done. Who knows when he would've called. It's not like we're not giving him a lot of money. Hey, as long as he's skilled and honest, things will be just fine. Brian 83 240D From: Rick Knoble [EMAIL PROTECTED] Reply-To: Mercedes Discussion List [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: Mercedes Discussion List [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: [MBZ] Rear half shafts Date: Thu, 2 Feb 2006 19:46:23 -0600 By the way, the new (used) engine is reportedly in and running well. We should be picking 'er up in a few weeks. Brian 83 240D Congrats Brian. Did a postmortem ever get performed on the old engine to determine the cause of its demise? Just curious Rick Knoble '85 300 CD ___ http://www.striplin.net For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://striplin.net/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_striplin.net _ Express yourself instantly with MSN Messenger! Download today - it's FREE! http://messenger.msn.click-url.com/go/onm00200471ave/direct/01/
[MBZ] Rear half shafts
Okay, I'm told by the indie that I need new CV boots, and thus, the joints should be replaced (or half shafts too?). I think they all come and go together right? Anyway, the deal is that the boots on one side are torn and the other boots are cracked. He said that if I intend to keep the car I should replace them. This gives me a feel for how bad they are. Sounds like they could last a while? But I don't want to get stranded. Question: When I drove it last, there was not a whole lot of noise coming from the rear - just a mystery creaking (could have been a quiet clacking) but it was intermittent and not that loud. What are your guesses as to whether I could put off replacing these parts for a while, and instead just patch the boots and grease it up real well. Bear in mind that I'll be driving this auto from AZ to MN. As usual, I know there are no absolute answers here, but what are your feelings, list? If they parts go bad on the trip, will it sieze things up, or will the noise just gradually get louder? I know, I sound like a bad owner, but just exploring all options with an eye toward spreading out the bills for now. I'll have to check out what Rusty wants for them! I know McParts specimens are subpar, but then again, they may have a lifetime warranty. By the way, the new (used) engine is reportedly in and running well. We should be picking 'er up in a few weeks. Brian 83 240D _ Dont just search. Find. Check out the new MSN Search! http://search.msn.click-url.com/go/onm00200636ave/direct/01/
Re: [MBZ] 240D Belt Problem
Ah. Key info. I often wonder which might be the most vital tools to include
in an emergency kit. I'll make belt replacement tools part of my kit.
Brian
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Subject: [MBZ] 240D Belt Problem
Date: Mon, 30 Jan 2006 09:07:02 -0500
Had a strange problem with my 78 240D last Thursday - was on the Interstate
doing 70 or so when I heard a bump and noticed the dash lights on and water
temp rising - knew a belt was gone so I switched off and coasted to a stop.
The AC belt was off its pulleys and laying on the engine bay - the
alt/water
pump/ crank belt was no where to be seen. I saw it a 1/4 mile down the
road
in 2 pieces! Anyway - couldn;t get the PS belt loose to remove so I cut it
and got my spare belt from the trunk - didn;t have proper wrnech to adjust
the alternator so the belt would fit so I managed to pry it on over the
main
pulley - it was a little loose but it got us home.
All new belts (the old ones were only about 5 years/30,000 miles old) and
now all is well - but it has emphasized the need to do a detailed check of
the belts more often than I did. I usually check things over about once a
month but since becoming disabled and no longer driving to work the 240D
was
being used less less I obviously wasn;t checking things often enough.
It always starts instantly (without block heater) in weather to the
teens - but it seems quieter now that it has new belts. Anyway - take a
few
minutes to examine your belts - it ain;t NO fun to work on the side of the
road! I feel *very* fortunate to have been able to wrestle the belt back
over the pulleys so we could get home without a tow. I've also updated my
tool kit to include wrenches needed to loosen retighten the alternator.
I
can easily get along with out AC and PS - but we ain;t going NO where
without the water pump. Oh yeah, I'm glad I had a razor to cut the PS
belt - made life easier -
Sincerely,
Larry T ('74 911, '67 MGB, 78 240D - 287k)
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Re: [MBZ] 12 Cyl 600S?
Alex, yes - that's what I recall and am talking about when I say it looked sort of out of place (I thought bogus). Good observation. Stout car though. Anybody know the h.p., torque, and performance specs? Brian From: Alex Chamberlain [EMAIL PROTECTED] Reply-To: Mercedes Discussion List [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: Mercedes Discussion List [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: [MBZ] 12 Cyl 600S? Date: Sun, 29 Jan 2006 19:06:36 -0800 On 1/29/06, Brian Chase [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Fanciers, I was in Minneapolis tonight to hit a party at First Avenue, and I walked past an interesting Benz: From the late '80s or early 90's by me estimation. Long wheelbase. Didn't pay much attention 'til I saw the uncharacteristic V12 emblem on the side (I think behind the rear passenger window) (the style of the lettering was what looked funny to me). I agree that the V12 badge looks odd on those. The V in particular, I seem to recall, doesn't seem to fit in with the other characters in the Mercedes font. Alex Chamberlain '87 300D Turbo ___ http://www.striplin.net For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://striplin.net/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_striplin.net _ On the road to retirement? Check out MSN Life Events for advice on how to get there! http://lifeevents.msn.com/category.aspx?cid=Retirement
Re: [MBZ] nice 240D manny
Cool! I have special original Mercedes wheels. Brian 83 240D From: Kaleb C. Striplin [EMAIL PROTECTED] Reply-To: Mercedes Discussion List [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: Mercedes mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: [MBZ] nice 240D manny Date: Sat, 28 Jan 2006 12:03:05 -0600 http://cgi.ebay.com/ebaymotors/Mercedes-Benz-MERCEDES-240D-DIESEL-1983-MERCEDES-240D-GREAT-SHAPE-DIESEL-MANUAL-NO-WRECKS_W0QQitemZ4607792581QQcategoryZ6315QQrdZ1QQcmdZViewItem -- Kaleb C. Striplin/Claremore, OK 89 560SEL, 87 300SDL, 85 380SE, 85 300D, 84 250 LWB, 83 300TD, 81 300TD, 81 240D, 81 240D, 76 450SEL, 76 240D, 76 300D, 74 240D, 69 250 http://www.striplin.net ___ http://www.striplin.net For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://striplin.net/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_striplin.net _ Dont just search. Find. Check out the new MSN Search! http://search.msn.click-url.com/go/onm00200636ave/direct/01/
Re: [MBZ] Bike Rider, Loud Pipes
Place two box fans near your head, turn to high speed and call me after a good night's sleep. Side effects may include your house being robbed without your noticing. Brian From: Dave Wakin [EMAIL PROTECTED] Reply-To: Mercedes Discussion List [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [EMAIL PROTECTED],Mercedes Discussion List [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: [MBZ] Bike Rider, Loud Pipes Date: Fri, 27 Jan 2006 10:44:49 -0500 A guy I work with has a neighbor like this - he uses a weedwacker to mow is front lawn once a week in the summer at around 5:30am. Takes him about 30 minutes, and looks like crap when he is done. Dave W What about the idiot neighbor who insists on running the mower, leaf blower, weed whacker, etc at 0600? At least the guy with loud pipes is gone in 60 seconds or so, not so this idiot who mows, blows, whacks for hours. ___ http://www.striplin.net For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://striplin.net/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_striplin.net _ Express yourself instantly with MSN Messenger! Download today - it's FREE! http://messenger.msn.click-url.com/go/onm00200471ave/direct/01/
[MBZ] 12 Cyl 600S?
Fanciers, I was in Minneapolis tonight to hit a party at First Avenue, and I walked past an interesting Benz: From the late '80s or early 90's by me estimation. Long wheelbase. Didn't pay much attention 'til I saw the uncharacteristic V12 emblem on the side (I think behind the rear passenger window) (the style of the lettering was what looked funny to me). The model badge on the back read 600S if I recall. Is this legit? Incidentally, the license plate read PRES. Brian _ FREE pop-up blocking with the new MSN Toolbar get it now! http://toolbar.msn.click-url.com/go/onm00200415ave/direct/01/
Re: [MBZ] 2 manny tranny cars firesale priced for quick sale 240D and114 250
On Crack. Brian (couldn't resist) From: Kaleb C. Striplin [EMAIL PROTECTED] Reply-To: Mercedes Discussion List [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: Banned List [EMAIL PROTECTED], Mercedes mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED],Mercedes-Benz Veterans List [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: [MBZ] 2 manny tranny cars firesale priced for quick sale 240D and114 250 Date: Mon, 23 Jan 2006 13:54:13 -0600 81 240D, red/parchment, was originally blue but they painted it red. Fair paint job, has a small area of rust in front of passenger side rear wheel well. Runs, drives fine, needs throwout bearing as the clutch squeels while pushed in. With very little work would be a very nice driver/beater/whatever. This was featured at the okieQ last year, luther drove it. $800 69 250, 6 cylinder gas, dual zenith carbs, white/red, drives seat has some wear, back of rear seat sun damaged. Needs shocks, tires, and carbs adjusted. Runs great after you get it started but hard to start cold unles you shoot a little gas down the cars. Clutch needs to be bleed. VERY VERY VERY little rust, just one small spot I believe below the drivers door, just a surface spot. Have red interior parts, everything needed to replaced worn parts. This is a really rare car, you never see a 4 speed, they are always auto $1000 This was the former Jaime car. He spent a ton of money on this car, looks like a ton of new gaskets, brake lines, hoses etc. Pertronic ignition. Need to move them quick, as in, need cash this week. Email offlist, they wont last long. -- Kaleb C. Striplin/Claremore, OK 89 560SEL, 87 300SDL, 85 380SE, 85 300D, 84 250 LWB, 83 300TD, 81 300TD, 81 240D, 81 240D, 76 450SEL, 76 240D, 76 300D, 74 240D, 69 250 http://www.striplin.net ___ http://www.striplin.net For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://striplin.net/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_striplin.net _ Dont just search. Find. Check out the new MSN Search! http://search.msn.click-url.com/go/onm00200636ave/direct/01/
Re: [MBZ] Got Tumbler but no Key
Ah! Thanks Peter. This version of things fits my situation best, so I'll rest in it. Thanks to all who supplied input and if anyone else has insights, send 'em along. Oh, do you mind telling who assured you thus? Brian 83 240D From: Peter Frederick [EMAIL PROTECTED] Reply-To: Mercedes Discussion List [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: Mercedes Discussion List [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: [MBZ] Got Tumbler but no Key Date: Sat, 21 Jan 2006 15:21:25 -0600 Tumblers for older cars not stocked in the US (meaning it has to be ordered from Germany) do NOT come with a key, you have to buy one separately. Newer cars, where the tumbler is stocked, have a key with them. I do not know why, and will not speculate, but I've been assured this is the case. Peter ___ http://www.striplin.net For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://striplin.net/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_striplin.net _ Express yourself instantly with MSN Messenger! Download today - it's FREE! http://messenger.msn.click-url.com/go/onm00200471ave/direct/01/
Re: [MBZ] Got Tumbler but no Key
ARRGG!! I heard that Rusty doesn't sell ignition tumblers anymore!! Brian From: Kaleb C. Striplin [EMAIL PROTECTED] Reply-To: Mercedes Discussion List [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: Mercedes Discussion List [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: [MBZ] Got Tumbler but no Key Date: Fri, 20 Jan 2006 18:24:03 -0600 its supposed to come with an extra key, should have ordered from rusty. Brian Chase wrote: Is this in keeping with your experince, list? I received my new ignition tumbler today (c. $85). The guy told me it is coded to my existing key, but said it would come with a key included for that price. But it did not come with a key. Called him, he said, oh, the deal where it's coded to your existing key, is that it doesn't come with a key. Fortunately, I did order an extra key, thinking we'd wind up with two new steel, dealer-issued keys. But we'll make due with the one, and use the brass copy for backup. Brian 83 240D _ Is your PC infected? Get a FREE online computer virus scan from McAfee® Security. http://clinic.mcafee.com/clinic/ibuy/campaign.asp?cid=3963 ___ http://www.striplin.net For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://striplin.net/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_striplin.net -- Kaleb C. Striplin/Claremore, OK 89 560SEL, 87 300SDL, 85 380SE, 85 300D, 84 250 LWB, 83 300TD, 81 300TD, 81 240D, 81 240D, 76 450SEL, 76 240D, 76 300D, 74 240D, 69 250 http://www.striplin.net ___ http://www.striplin.net For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://striplin.net/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_striplin.net _ Is your PC infected? Get a FREE online computer virus scan from McAfee® Security. http://clinic.mcafee.com/clinic/ibuy/campaign.asp?cid=3963
Re: [MBZ] Got Tumbler but no Key
Ahh. My first Bt Wrong. I feel this sense of belonging. Seriously, I read on this list that Rusty doesn't sell them anymore and the dealer is now the only option, and that they sent out to Florida. In fact, though, the dealer in St. Paul sent out to Germany, via Texas. I'll only believe Kaleb from now on. Brian From: Kaleb C. Striplin [EMAIL PROTECTED] Reply-To: Mercedes Discussion List [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: Mercedes Discussion List [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: [MBZ] Got Tumbler but no Key Date: Fri, 20 Jan 2006 19:12:07 -0600 bt, wrong Brian Chase wrote: ARRGG!! I heard that Rusty doesn't sell ignition tumblers anymore!! Brian From: Kaleb C. Striplin [EMAIL PROTECTED] Reply-To: Mercedes Discussion List [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: Mercedes Discussion List [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: [MBZ] Got Tumbler but no Key Date: Fri, 20 Jan 2006 18:24:03 -0600 its supposed to come with an extra key, should have ordered from rusty. Brian Chase wrote: Is this in keeping with your experince, list? I received my new ignition tumbler today (c. $85). The guy told me it is coded to my existing key, but said it would come with a key included for that price. But it did not come with a key. Called him, he said, oh, the deal where it's coded to your existing key, is that it doesn't come with a key. Fortunately, I did order an extra key, thinking we'd wind up with two new steel, dealer-issued keys. But we'll make due with the one, and use the brass copy for backup. Brian 83 240D _ Is your PC infected? Get a FREE online computer virus scan from McAfee® Security. http://clinic.mcafee.com/clinic/ibuy/campaign.asp?cid=3963 ___ http://www.striplin.net For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://striplin.net/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_striplin.net -- Kaleb C. Striplin/Claremore, OK 89 560SEL, 87 300SDL, 85 380SE, 85 300D, 84 250 LWB, 83 300TD, 81 300TD, 81 240D, 81 240D, 76 450SEL, 76 240D, 76 300D, 74 240D, 69 250 http://www.striplin.net ___ http://www.striplin.net For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://striplin.net/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_striplin.net _ Is your PC infected? Get a FREE online computer virus scan from McAfee® Security. http://clinic.mcafee.com/clinic/ibuy/campaign.asp?cid=3963 ___ http://www.striplin.net For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://striplin.net/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_striplin.net -- Kaleb C. Striplin/Claremore, OK 89 560SEL, 87 300SDL, 85 380SE, 85 300D, 84 250 LWB, 83 300TD, 81 300TD, 81 240D, 81 240D, 76 450SEL, 76 240D, 76 300D, 74 240D, 69 250 http://www.striplin.net ___ http://www.striplin.net For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://striplin.net/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_striplin.net _ Dont just search. Find. Check out the new MSN Search! http://search.msn.click-url.com/go/onm00200636ave/direct/01/
Re: [MBZ] Got Tumbler but no Key
That sounds familiar. The PN for the LOCK CY is: 123-462-00-79 The separate key I ordered for an extra has PN either Q 4 76 0037 (crossed out by hand) or 1755696 (written in by hand) ? Brian From: Loren Faeth [EMAIL PROTECTED] Reply-To: Mercedes Discussion List [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: Mercedes Discussion List [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: [MBZ] Got Tumbler but no Key Date: Fri, 20 Jan 2006 19:26:05 -0600 I believe Rusty can get generic ign or door sets, but the last time I checked, he was unable to provide keys by VIN or code. Brian, publish the MB part number and someone can probably determine if it is a lock and key, or lock only. At 06:58 PM 1/20/2006, you wrote: ARRGG!! I heard that Rusty doesn't sell ignition tumblers anymore!! Brian From: Kaleb C. Striplin [EMAIL PROTECTED] Reply-To: Mercedes Discussion List [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: Mercedes Discussion List [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: [MBZ] Got Tumbler but no Key Date: Fri, 20 Jan 2006 18:24:03 -0600 its supposed to come with an extra key, should have ordered from rusty. Brian Chase wrote: Is this in keeping with your experince, list? I received my new ignition tumbler today (c. $85). The guy told me it is coded to my existing key, but said it would come with a key included for that price. But it did not come with a key. Called him, he said, oh, the deal where it's coded to your existing key, is that it doesn't come with a key. Fortunately, I did order an extra key, thinking we'd wind up with two new steel, dealer-issued keys. But we'll make due with the one, and use the brass copy for backup. Brian 83 240D _ Is your PC infected? Get a FREE online computer virus scan from McAfee® Security. http://clinic.mcafee.com/clinic/ibuy/campaign.asp?cid=3963 ___ http://www.striplin.net For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://striplin.net/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_striplin.net -- Kaleb C. Striplin/Claremore, OK 89 560SEL, 87 300SDL, 85 380SE, 85 300D, 84 250 LWB, 83 300TD, 81 300TD, 81 240D, 81 240D, 76 450SEL, 76 240D, 76 300D, 74 240D, 69 250 http://www.striplin.net ___ http://www.striplin.net For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://striplin.net/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_striplin.net _ Is your PC infected? Get a FREE online computer virus scan from McAfee® Security. http://clinic.mcafee.com/clinic/ibuy/campaign.asp?cid=3963 ___ http://www.striplin.net For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://striplin.net/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_striplin.net ___ http://www.striplin.net For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://striplin.net/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_striplin.net _ Dont just search. Find. Check out the new MSN Search! http://search.msn.click-url.com/go/onm00200636ave/direct/01/
Re: [MBZ] Nice W115, and ebay question
As soon as I read a certain one of those responses, I recognized it as a scam. I tried to sell my truck on CraigsList and some guy with very bad English (much like the message in question here) tried to get me to pay (using his check) the guy that he would send to pick up my vehicle. When my wife tried to sell something on CraigsList, she got virtually the same message. This must be VERY common!? I politely asked him to elaborate and that I could not accept those terms. No response. It's the all-caps one with the I will like to... and My client... Oh, I just read the seller's response to it. It must be a well-known con? Brian From: Zeitgeist [EMAIL PROTECTED] Reply-To: Mercedes Discussion List [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: Mercedes Discussion List [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: [MBZ] Nice W115, and ebay question Date: Fri, 20 Jan 2006 18:22:10 -0800 This 220D is probably fairly nice, and the seller's responses to the 27(!) questions are somewhat humorous too. Is it typical for a car seller on ebay to receive that many questions? If so, please remind me never to sell my vehicles on ebay--that would drive me nuts. There aren't enough hours in the day to put up with that $h!t. http://cgi.ebay.com/ebaymotors/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItemitem=4605052708 -- Casey Olympia, WA Biodiesel: I drive in a persistent vegetative state '87 300TD intercooler (211k) '84 300D (207k) Gashuffer: '89 Vanagon Wolfsburg Edition (186K) ___ http://www.striplin.net For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://striplin.net/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_striplin.net _ FREE pop-up blocking with the new MSN Toolbar get it now! http://toolbar.msn.click-url.com/go/onm00200415ave/direct/01/
Re: [MBZ] unique odometer reading
Pic didn't show up for me. What was the unique mileage? I remember when my Sportie turned 40k, I pulled over, let my dog (90 lbs worth) out of his riding compartment, and took a pic with the two of them. Brian From: Craig McCluskey [EMAIL PROTECTED] Reply-To: Mercedes Discussion List [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: Mercedes Discussion List [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: [MBZ] unique odometer reading Date: Fri, 20 Jan 2006 21:33:55 -0700 On Fri, 20 Jan 2006 20:32:29 -0600 LT Don [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: My odometer turned this today while I was driving west to a meeting. Having taken the digital camera with me in anticipation of this turn-of-events, just had to pull onto the shoulder of the highway and snap a photo. But ... the odometer reading is not really true, since a new one was put in by 240D's previous owner at ~88,000 miles. Nevertheless, it's very interesting. I guess my recent 224466 comes in a distant second. (I took a picture, but I won't bother to post it.) Craig ___ http://www.striplin.net For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://striplin.net/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_striplin.net _ Express yourself instantly with MSN Messenger! Download today - it's FREE! http://messenger.msn.click-url.com/go/onm00200471ave/direct/01/
Re: [MBZ] unique odometer reading
That is actually very cool. If I remember, I could catch that shot in a couple thou. Of course I won't. Great pic to share. Brian From: LT Don [EMAIL PROTECTED] Reply-To: Mercedes Discussion List [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: Mercedes Discussion List [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: [MBZ] unique odometer reading Date: Sat, 21 Jan 2006 05:17:41 + Odometer reads 123456. On 1/21/06, Brian Chase [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Pic didn't show up for me. What was the unique mileage? I remember when my Sportie turned 40k, I pulled over, let my dog (90 lbs worth) out of his riding compartment, and took a pic with the two of them. Brian From: Craig McCluskey [EMAIL PROTECTED] Reply-To: Mercedes Discussion List [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: Mercedes Discussion List [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: [MBZ] unique odometer reading Date: Fri, 20 Jan 2006 21:33:55 -0700 On Fri, 20 Jan 2006 20:32:29 -0600 LT Don [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: My odometer turned this today while I was driving west to a meeting. Having taken the digital camera with me in anticipation of this turn-of-events, just had to pull onto the shoulder of the highway and snap a photo. But ... the odometer reading is not really true, since a new one was put in by 240D's previous owner at ~88,000 miles. Nevertheless, it's very interesting. I guess my recent 224466 comes in a distant second. (I took a picture, but I won't bother to post it.) Craig ___ http://www.striplin.net For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://striplin.net/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_striplin.net _ Express yourself instantly with MSN Messenger! Download today - it's FREE! http://messenger.msn.click-url.com/go/onm00200471ave/direct/01/ ___ http://www.striplin.net For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://striplin.net/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_striplin.net -- 1977 240D 1983 VW Quantum turbo diesel 5-speed 1972 Honda CB-500K motorcycle http://www.airamericaradio.com/listen ___ http://www.striplin.net For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://striplin.net/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_striplin.net _ Dont just search. Find. Check out the new MSN Search! http://search.msn.click-url.com/go/onm00200636ave/direct/01/
Re: [MBZ] Got Tumbler but no Key
'Preciate the concise info. Actually my deal is that I ordered a lock cylinder (coded to my VIN) and was told by the rep that it would come with a key too (obviously also coded to my VIN) I paid some $85 for this. It did not come with a key. Just the cylinder was sent. I called him and asked what's up - he basically said, his bad - that he told me the wrong thing, and that in fact, the option to order the cylinder coded to VIN should not come with a key. And the option to order a cyl. and a key together would not yield a set coded to an existing VIN. Fortunately, I had ordered an extra key (coded) (arrived separately and several days earlier than cyl.). So all told, I have the cylinder (supposedly coded to my VIN) and one key (also supposedly coded to my VIN). I haven't confirmed that they work yet. What and where is this secret lock facility? They told me that the cyl. would come from Germany via Texas, and that it may take 6 - 8 weeks, but they could not say for sure how long it'd take. It actually only took about a coulpe weeks. Thanks Brian 83 240D From: John Berryman [EMAIL PROTECTED] Reply-To: Mercedes Discussion List [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: Mercedes Discussion List [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: [MBZ] Got Tumbler but no Key Date: Sat, 21 Jan 2006 08:38:37 -0500 On Jan 20, 2006, at 8:26 PM, Loren Faeth wrote: I believe Rusty can get generic ign or door sets, but the last time I checked, he was unable to provide keys by VIN or code. Brian, publish the MB part number and someone can probably determine if it is a lock and key, or lock only. Anyone can get lock cylinders VIN matched from your local friendly dealer. Key should not come with VIN matched cylinder unless ordered. (they will come from 2 different places, as MB must actually set-up the lock cylinder at their secret lock facility). A key will come with a lock cylinder that is not coded to the VIN. Keys coded to the VIN can be purchased separately. Johnny B iMac therefore I am ___ http://www.striplin.net For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://striplin.net/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_striplin.net _ Express yourself instantly with MSN Messenger! Download today - it's FREE! http://messenger.msn.click-url.com/go/onm00200471ave/direct/01/
Re: [MBZ] Nice W115, and ebay question
Yeah, I figured it was well-known. The thing I was wondering about is: Since the language is so similar to what I encountered some time ago on a different selling site, is this scam so standard that many people choose to use the same lousy language? Or is it the same person(s)? Not a terribly important question, just wondering. I picture some dude spending all his time sending out these poorly-written scams. It would be more than a full-time job. If this is not the scenario, why is the language so similar (including very poor mastery of the king's english)? Or is it automated and mass distributed? I question, therefore I am. Brian From: John Berryman [EMAIL PROTECTED] Reply-To: Mercedes Discussion List [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: Mercedes Discussion List [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: [MBZ] Nice W115, and ebay question Date: Sat, 21 Jan 2006 08:53:56 -0500 On Jan 20, 2006, at 9:50 PM, Brian Chase wrote: As soon as I read a certain one of those responses, I recognized it as a scam. I tried to sell my truck on CraigsList and some guy with very bad English (much like the message in question here) tried to get me to pay (using his check) the guy that he would send to pick up my vehicle. When my wife tried to sell something on CraigsList, she got virtually the same message. This must be VERY common!? I politely asked him to elaborate and that I could not accept those terms. No response. It's the all-caps one with the I will like to... and My client... Oh, I just read the seller's response to it. It must be a well- known con? Brian CL is very aware of these scams. Everyone should be by now. They always throw a disclaimer/warning up for those who choose to advertise there. It is usually highlighted in yellow.. Johnny B iMac therefore I am ___ http://www.striplin.net For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://striplin.net/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_striplin.net _ Dont just search. Find. Check out the new MSN Search! http://search.msn.click-url.com/go/onm00200636ave/direct/01/
Re: [MBZ] Got Tumbler but no Key
Okay, then I think the question here becomes: How much did you pay, Marshall? Perhaps the price I paid for the cylinder ($85) was not the price for a cyl. and a key. I thought the list had told me in the past that I'd be looking at some $120 for a cylinder and key (coded to my VIN). Not trying to kick at a dead horse, just trying to find out if my dealer rep screwed up and is trying to cover himself. If all is as it should be, I'll be satisfied. Brian 83 240D From: Marshall Booth [EMAIL PROTECTED] Reply-To: Mercedes Discussion List [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: Mercedes Discussion List [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: [MBZ] Got Tumbler but no Key Date: Sat, 21 Jan 2006 13:05:31 -0500 Brian Chase wrote: Is this in keeping with your experince, list? I received my new ignition tumbler today (c. $85). The guy told me it is coded to my existing key, but said it would come with a key included for that price. But it did not come with a key. Called him, he said, oh, the deal where it's coded to your existing key, is that it doesn't come with a key. Fortunately, I did order an extra key, thinking we'd wind up with two new steel, dealer-issued keys. But we'll make due with the one, and use the brass copy for backup. Every tumbler I've ever ordered (at least 3 of them - maybe 4) came with a key - ordering one without the key was NOT an option (I've tried). Marshall -- Marshall Booth (who doesn't respond to unsigned questions) der Dieseling Doktor [EMAIL PROTECTED] '87 300TD 182Kmi, '84 190D 2.2 229Kmi, '85 190D 2.0 161Kmi, '87 190D 2.5 turbo 237kmi ___ http://www.striplin.net For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://striplin.net/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_striplin.net _ Dont just search. Find. Check out the new MSN Search! http://search.msn.click-url.com/go/onm00200636ave/direct/01/
Re: [MBZ] Got Tumbler but no Key
There may not be any patience left for this question, but Marshall, were the cylinder/key combos that you are speaking of coded to your VINs? Or not. Dave, I bought it from Maplewood Imports near St. Paul, MN. Brian From: Dave M. [EMAIL PROTECTED] Reply-To: Mercedes Discussion List [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: [MBZ] Got Tumbler but no Key Date: Sat, 21 Jan 2006 12:20:08 -0700 The EPC always identifies the tumblers as less key, but they do come with a key. The dealer parts guy says that when the code the lock, the only way to test it is to cut a key for it. So they cut a key, test the lock, and then ship it with the key. Either MB recently changed it's policy somehow (which I doubt), somebody goofed up, or the dealership thinks they need to remove the key since the EPC said it wasn't supposed to include one. You *did* buy this from a Mercedes dealer, right? -dm -- Date: Fri, 20 Jan 2006 19:43:22 -0500 From: Mitch Haley [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: [MBZ] Got Tumbler but no Key Kaleb C. Striplin wrote: its supposed to come with an extra key, should have ordered from rusty. Maybe they forgot to order the key and covered the mistake by selling him the key that came with the cylinder. (or maybe something has changed in MBUSA land) ___ http://www.striplin.net For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://striplin.net/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_striplin.net _ Dont just search. Find. Check out the new MSN Search! http://search.msn.click-url.com/go/onm00200636ave/direct/01/
[MBZ] 89 SEL for sale
I've been seeing this SE or SD sitting at a small dealership for several weeks. Today I stopped in so I could let yall know what it was. The windshield sticker says its an 89. Its a 450 SEL. Odo reads 128k. The price on the windshield is c $2500.00. Before anyone gets excited, it is in sort of rough shape cosmetically (small things like spots of rust on bumper, door trim gapping). It just doesn't look like it's lead an easy life. The passenger front seat has some ugly vinly-ish cover over the whole thing. No affilitation. Brian 83 240D _ Dont just search. Find. Check out the new MSN Search! http://search.msn.click-url.com/go/onm00200636ave/direct/01/
Re: [MBZ] 89 SEL for sale
Ah. Good question. It's just outside Rochester, MN (SE MN). Brian From: Tom Hargrave [EMAIL PROTECTED] Reply-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED], Mercedes Discussion List [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: Mercedes Discussion List [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: [MBZ] 89 SEL for sale Date: Fri, 20 Jan 2006 13:58:00 -0600 Where's it located? Thanks, Tom Hargrave 256-656-1924 www.kegkits.com -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Behalf Of Brian Chase Sent: Friday, January 20, 2006 1:48 PM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: [MBZ] 89 SEL for sale I've been seeing this SE or SD sitting at a small dealership for several weeks. Today I stopped in so I could let yall know what it was. The windshield sticker says its an 89. Its a 450 SEL. Odo reads 128k. The price on the windshield is c $2500.00. Before anyone gets excited, it is in sort of rough shape cosmetically (small things like spots of rust on bumper, door trim gapping). It just doesn't look like it's lead an easy life. The passenger front seat has some ugly vinly-ish cover over the whole thing. No affilitation. Brian 83 240D _ Dont just search. Find. Check out the new MSN Search! http://search.msn.click-url.com/go/onm00200636ave/direct/01/ ___ http://www.striplin.net For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://striplin.net/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_striplin.net _ Express yourself instantly with MSN Messenger! Download today - it's FREE! http://messenger.msn.click-url.com/go/onm00200471ave/direct/01/
Re: [MBZ] 89 SEL for sale
You're probably right. I'm not up on all the models. Brian From: Kevin [EMAIL PROTECTED] Reply-To: Mercedes Discussion List [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: Mercedes Discussion List [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: [MBZ] 89 SEL for sale Date: Fri, 20 Jan 2006 13:27:35 -0800 On Fri, Jan 20, 2006 at 12:48:00PM -0700, Brian Chase wrote: windshield sticker says its an 89. Its a 450 SEL. My not so great recollection would make that a 420 SEL or a 560 SEL, unless european or the wrong year... K ___ http://www.striplin.net For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://striplin.net/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_striplin.net _ Express yourself instantly with MSN Messenger! Download today - it's FREE! http://messenger.msn.click-url.com/go/onm00200471ave/direct/01/
[MBZ] Got Tumbler but no Key
Is this in keeping with your experince, list? I received my new ignition tumbler today (c. $85). The guy told me it is coded to my existing key, but said it would come with a key included for that price. But it did not come with a key. Called him, he said, oh, the deal where it's coded to your existing key, is that it doesn't come with a key. Fortunately, I did order an extra key, thinking we'd wind up with two new steel, dealer-issued keys. But we'll make due with the one, and use the brass copy for backup. Brian 83 240D _ Is your PC infected? Get a FREE online computer virus scan from McAfee® Security. http://clinic.mcafee.com/clinic/ibuy/campaign.asp?cid=3963
Re: [MBZ] Deep Sump clearance
Whatever the case, I'm just distancing myself from any smog-controlled, air conditioned, lowered compression engine such as showed up in the early '70s. My 440 has eaten her share of Chevy big blocks - yes, even in the Holy Vette. You're bringing out the kid in me. Now must turn thoughts back to 240D performance. Brian From: John Berryman [EMAIL PROTECTED] Reply-To: Mercedes Discussion List [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: Mercedes Discussion List [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: [MBZ] Deep Sump clearance Date: Wed, 18 Jan 2006 22:38:21 -0500 On Jan 18, 2006, at 6:48 PM, Brian Chase wrote: I'm not one to get behind Aspens or Volares. I don't like any muscle car post-'70. So I'm not surprised that a Vette could walk away from a 360 CID 'A Body'. Most PD Volares,Asprins and Diplomats ran 318 4-barrels. The vette would eat the 360 any way. Johnny B iMac therefore I am ___ http://www.striplin.net For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://striplin.net/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_striplin.net _ FREE pop-up blocking with the new MSN Toolbar get it now! http://toolbar.msn.click-url.com/go/onm00200415ave/direct/01/
Re: [MBZ] mistakes a diesel owner should not make
Alex Chamberlain wrote: snip IT'S A D-ZEL! snip HA! The way you wrote that reminds me of the way a certain exceedingly anal and superior woman customer at the service station I used to work at used to tell us to fill up her 124. In some sort of southern-ish accent it was always Feel it with Dezel. Man, she was so bent on making sure we knew she was above us in society. Duh. That job actually was my first exposure to Mercedes diesels. We used to call them rabid mobies only because of the foamy nature of diesel. And we could always hear them coming before we saw them, owing to what I now know as the klatta klatta. They almost invariably came into full serve. Didn't get too nervous around these luxury autos after a while. I remember some unfortunate new employee, however, who left the nozzle in a guy's Jaguar, allowing him to pull away. OOOPS. Ah, memories. Now I'm a rabid mobiler. Brian 83 240D From: Alex Chamberlain [EMAIL PROTECTED] Reply-To: Mercedes Discussion List [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: Mercedes Discussion List [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: [MBZ] mistakes a diesel owner should not make Date: Thu, 19 Jan 2006 00:36:00 -0800 On 1/18/06, Tom Scordato [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Just ran into a business associate of mine. He is real proud of his new VW TDI. Loves it. Except the time recently he filled it with GASOLINE. A $700 dollar mistake. That's probably the one nice thing about not having self-serve gas in Oregon! If the moron high-school-dropout pump jockey makes that mistake, the station owner, not me, will be shelling out the cost of the necessary repairs. I've been thinking about this a lot lately since the station I usually go to (convenient on the way home from work) seems to have just hired a new batch of said morons, all of whom need to be told IT'S A D-ZEL! loudly and slowly three or four times before they get the message and reach for the green-handled pump. Alex Chamberlain '87 300D Turbo ___ http://www.striplin.net For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://striplin.net/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_striplin.net _ Dont just search. Find. Check out the new MSN Search! http://search.msn.click-url.com/go/onm00200636ave/direct/01/
[MBZ] Desert Rat Insult
Wow. HOLY CATS dude. Don't call me a coward. I wouldn't have written anything off-topic if the more veteran members of this list haven't shown me that it is occasionally acceptable to do so. I think your remark to me is WAY out of line. Yes, maybe I do need some help in some areas. But again, don't take to calling me such a seriously insulting name. I am serioius. Think before you go pulling that kind of language toward someone. This is the first time I've taken it upon myself to personally respond to something on this list. But you have stepped way over, Desert Rat. Brian 83 240D From: Desert Rat [EMAIL PROTECTED] Reply-To: Mercedes Discussion List [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: Mercedes Discussion List [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: [MBZ] OT: Cat Stories Date: Thu, 19 Jan 2006 09:08:18 -0800 Note to Brian Chase: You need help. No really, I am serious. It's one thing to act in a less civilized manner as you stated but nothing has really changed if you think it is OK to tell a group of MB enthusiasts about your cowardly acts towards killing pets. Kaleb, if you consider this a flame, so be it. Yesterday folks wrote this topic off as a jokewell, it ain't funny anymore. John Freer ___ http://www.striplin.net For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://striplin.net/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_striplin.net _ Dont just search. Find. Check out the new MSN Search! http://search.msn.click-url.com/go/onm00200636ave/direct/01/
Re: [MBZ] Deep Sump clearance
Allright, now you've insulted my honor. Tee hee. Brian From: John Berryman [EMAIL PROTECTED] Reply-To: Mercedes Discussion List [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: Mercedes Discussion List [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: [MBZ] Deep Sump clearance Date: Thu, 19 Jan 2006 16:24:49 -0500 On Jan 19, 2006, at 1:15 PM, Brian Chase wrote: Now must turn thoughts back to 240D performance. Brian If indeed such a thing exists. Johnny B iMac therefore I am ___ http://www.striplin.net For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://striplin.net/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_striplin.net _ Express yourself instantly with MSN Messenger! Download today - it's FREE! http://messenger.msn.click-url.com/go/onm00200471ave/direct/01/
Re: [MBZ] Columbus CL 240D
Sort of contradictory to say that the engine needed replacing after 150k, but these engines run forever. I ran into this claim about my 240D when I bought it. What up??? Brian 83 240D From: Mitch Haley [EMAIL PROTECTED] Reply-To: Mercedes Discussion List [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: Mercedes Discussion List [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: [MBZ] Columbus CL 240D Date: Tue, 17 Jan 2006 18:55:32 -0500 Rick Knoble wrote: http://columbus.craigslist.org/car/126140059.html Hey Sunil! What is that, parchment seats and palamino door panels? ___ http://www.striplin.net For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://striplin.net/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_striplin.net _ Dont just search. Find. Check out the new MSN Search! http://search.msn.click-url.com/go/onm00200636ave/direct/01/
Re: [MBZ] Early engine replacement - was Columbus CL 240D
You're kidding. These well-designed autos have the oil pan vulnerable to turfing if I ever bottom out? That disappoints me. I know the feeling of having this - on my '68 Coronet I had a deep-sump oil pan put on when I had that engine rebuilt. It hangs a couple inches below the cross-member (looks cool - I still haven't entirely grown up). But it's a very skiddish feeling to know that if I take a road at higher speed with dips in it, it could be a real problem. I always wanted to fashion a thick aluminum shield. Brian 83 240D From: andrew strasfogel [EMAIL PROTECTED] Reply-To: Mercedes Discussion List [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: Mercedes Discussion List [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: [MBZ] Early engine replacement - was Columbus CL 240D Date: Wed, 18 Jan 2006 15:12:43 -0500 The PO of our 1985 300CD told us the same story to explain the $5,300 engine replacement, so I believe it. On 1/18/06, Terry Geiger [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I think one thing that may cause an early engine replacement is the exposed oil pan on a 123. I looked at a 240D last year and the claim was it had a new engine at 150k because the previous owner ran over something in the road and punctured the oil pan. Terry Geiger http://www.shoalsbritishcars.org '74 Triumph TR6 (my sunny day car) '63 Triumph Herald (wife's sunny day car) '84 Mercedes 300D Turbo Diesel (wife's car) '90 Chevy S10 (parts fetcher) - Original Message - From: Brian Chase [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Wednesday, January 18, 2006 1:43 PM Subject: Re: [MBZ] Columbus CL 240D Sort of contradictory to say that the engine needed replacing after 150k, but these engines run forever. I ran into this claim about my 240D when I bought it. What up??? Brian 83 240D ___ http://www.striplin.net For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://striplin.net/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_striplin.net ___ http://www.striplin.net For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://striplin.net/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_striplin.net _ Dont just search. Find. Check out the new MSN Search! http://search.msn.click-url.com/go/onm00200636ave/direct/01/
