[MBZ] Wiltons ride to get away from panhandlers
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NvVPkTfTDZQ ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com All posts are the result of individual contributors and as such, those individuals are responsible for the content of the post. The list owner has no control over the content of the messages of each contributor.
[MBZ] U124
Keep in mind this car is in Tassie, which is not like the rest of Oz. http://s247.photobucket.com/user/eri77_/media/IMG_9286_zps0d060ae0.jpg.html Hendrik who has a dual cab ute but alas it ain't a Merc ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com All posts are the result of individual contributors and as such, those individuals are responsible for the content of the post. The list owner has no control over the content of the messages of each contributor.
Re: [MBZ] Is it dead?
There is a faint pulse but it may be time to call for the Priest. Hendrik who has been self moderating On 16/10/14 09:34, Dan Penoff via Mercedes wrote: I think Gary is. Sent from my iPad On Oct 15, 2014, at 6:44 PM, Kaleb C. Striplin via Mercedes mercedes@okiebenz.com wrote: Sent from my iPhone ___ http://www.okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com All posts are the result of individual contributors and as such, those individuals are responsible for the content of the post. The list owner has no control over the content of the messages of each contributor.
Re: [MBZ] Source for Bumper Cover
Not sure in your neck of the woods but here they have introduced a fee on both the final price and shipping, supposedly to get rid of the sellers who sell cheap but charge a lot for shipping. However ebay have also partnered with Aussie Post, so you can get a shipping label via ebay for a discount. This would be handy for items that can be put in post boxes. Hendrik who has sold a few bits on ebay On 11/10/14 06:06, Craig via Mercedes wrote: On Fri, 10 Oct 2014 14:03:16 -0400 Dan Penoff via Mercedes mercedes@okiebenz.com wrote: That's no doubt due to the shipping really costing them far less and the difference going towards the profit margin. This seems to be the standard ruse with eBay and other sellers who advertise suspiciously low prices then charge obscene amounts for shipping. I recently looked at an item that was offered for $ 0.50 with $33.00 shipping. Needless to say, I did not buy it. Craig ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com All posts are the result of individual contributors and as such, those individuals are responsible for the content of the post. The list owner has no control over the content of the messages of each contributor.
[MBZ] One for the greasers without heart conditions
*_Warning_* contains scantily clad women but no politics I think, or religion but does have white man rap, so that could offend, if not sure don't watch, perhaps watch a John Wayne movie or Fred Astaire musical or read the latest edition of Gun Polishers, I hear they have a special feature on oils and the ten most common mistakes people make when choosing a polishing cloth, should be a fascinating read. _*DANGER DANGER*__*KEEP BACK*_ https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=SppxyRIO3qo I you watched and got offended, well I am sorry but I didn't want to risk Dan having a heart attack and thus didn't ask for approval but did put a warning on there not to watch Hendrik who watched it and was shockedthat they put that crap into a finely engineered machine ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com All posts are the result of individual contributors and as such, those individuals are responsible for the content of the post. The list owner has no control over the content of the messages of each contributor.
Re: [MBZ] [ADMIN] - Politics
Similar to: scared old men sending brave young men to die In the good old days the boss would go out with the troops and fight but nowadays those that decide the time has come to fight do not go out and participate. Would the head honchos be so keen to start something if they had to go out and stick their necks out? Anyway on a related note, it's all go over here with all sorts of crazies running amok http://www.abc.net.au/news/2014-09-19/afp-to-take-over-parliament-house-security/5754718 not sure if there is anything to it or just a bit of a beat up to justify sending troops to Iraq? My question is, what do these terrorists hope to achieve by doing these sort of bad things? Do they all expect us to roll over and surrender and convert to Islam? Far as I can see all they are doing is creating a bigger divide between Muslims and non Muslims and that ain't a good thing. I like to think that I am reasonably intelligent and do think that it is a small minority of Muslims who are hardline nut jobs and the vast majority just want to get along in life, however with every senseless terror attack, that belief becomes a little eroded. Plus there are plenty of not so bright people out there that think every Muslim is out to create mayhem. Nazi Germany is a good example of how people can be brainwashed into believing that a particular group of people are bad and need to be gotten rid of. Hendrik who lives in a crazy world full of crazy people and has his bags packed, in case some aliens come along to take me to a better planet On 19/09/14 05:02, Andrew Strasfogel via Mercedes wrote: Chairman Mao: What was the context of that clever remark? On Thu, Sep 18, 2014 at 3:30 PM, Mountain Man via Mercedes mercedes@okiebenz.com wrote: henifay wrote: Pitting the pawns against one another to keep the King safe. NICE!! mao ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com All posts are the result of individual contributors and as such, those individuals are responsible for the content of the post. The list owner has no control over the content of the messages of each contributor.
Re: [MBZ] [ADMIN] - Alien Politics
Actually speaking of which, I swear I saw something in the sky while I was driving in Arizona. Driving along in a rental SUV (not a merc) in the middle of nowhere I looked to my 9 oclock and saw a shiny ball way off in the distance, looked at the road and looked back and it was gone. Anyway I don't particularly like those TV shows where people claim to have seem this or that, just more crap to fill the airwaves with. Given the proliferation of camera equipped phones, we should be seeing some footage of space ships any time soon but then with alien tech they can make themselves invisible to cameras. Hendrik who has his phone charged and ready to take pics On 19/09/14 10:38, G Mann wrote: Hendrik who lives in a crazy world full of crazy people and has his bags packed, in case some aliens come along to take me to a better planet Hendrik, did you ever notice that alien space ships only fly at night, and only after bars all close... and only pick people up for rectal exams? Why is that? Inquiring minds want to know... ;)) I can't think of a single case of alien abduction that involved a Mercedes driver.. thus .. Mercedes protects against aliens.. ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com All posts are the result of individual contributors and as such, those individuals are responsible for the content of the post. The list owner has no control over the content of the messages of each contributor.
Re: [MBZ] Fwd: GRILLE badges
How dare you actually have an on topic message, here we are happily talking about aliens taking all our leaders off to some distant planet ruled by apes and you have to start blabbering about MB high mileage awards. Anyway it won't count until we see a pic of it on the grille. Plus those things are not available up here, not sure about Euroland but I do know of a Aussie fella who got a mate in the US to organize some awards for his Oz Mercs, not sure how he got away with it as the VIN is generally different to the US style VIN? Hendrik who has no bling on the grille but is due his 250k one and the 500k should be a couple of years away On 19/09/14 10:56, Dwight Giles via Mercedes wrote: -- Forwarded message -- From: Dwight Giles dwight.gi...@gmail.com Date: Sep 18, 2014 4:54 PM Subject: GRILLE badges To: clay redgh...@comcast.net Cc: Yes I have 250k kms ones on each of my two. Paint faded on one I had them send a new one. I am going for 500k badge for my 90 300D. On Sep 18, 2014 4:41 PM, clay redgh...@comcast.net wrote: I just got the high mileage award in the mail for Frosch. Nice big box with a small grille jewel and a folder. Pretty heavy medal, but not the cloisonné of the older examples. No need to be a club member, just own the marque. clay ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com All posts are the result of individual contributors and as such, those individuals are responsible for the content of the post. The list owner has no control over the content of the messages of each contributor.
Re: [MBZ] Fw: CARbine Digest, Vol 106, Issue 71
It's a semi-automatic rifle, if you put a shorter barrel in it, it's still an automatic rifle in carbine configuration. Technically to be an assault rifle it would need to have selective fire control. Hendrik who has been reading wikipedia On 17/09/14 14:46, Rick Knoble via Mercedes wrote: Original Message From: Greg Fiorentino via Mercedes Sent: Tuesday, September 16, 2014 11:21 PM To: 'Mercedes Discussion List' Reply To: Greg Fiorentino Subject: Re: [MBZ] Carbine Digest, Vol 106, Issue 71 Actually, the discussion was mainly about nomenclature of an AR-15, and whether it is properly called a carbine, a rifle, or an assault rifle. Actually, firearms are much closer to Mercedes content than are apple trees; since they are both the pinnacle of mechanical technology of their time. I'm not opposed to discussing hardware, be it small arms, watches, washing machines, iPhone, or Mercedes. Just don't mix in emotion, and or politics. Rick ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com All posts are the result of individual contributors and as such, those individuals are responsible for the content of the post. The list owner has no control over the content of the messages of each contributor.
Re: [MBZ] OT but food for thought
Ohh boy, now we have politics and religion on the discussion table:) It's all Wiltons fault for mentioning the war, I may have mentioned it once but I think I got away with it. Anyway, regarding the 'temporary' troop withdrawal from Iraq. My vague recollection of this was that it was decided before President Obama came into office http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/U.S.%E2%80%93Iraq_Status_of_Forces_Agreement And yes Max we can see that your trying to put some sort of xenophobic spin on it, this is the sort of thing that lets to heated debates, perhaps we should try and stick to the facts? Fact is that a republican president decided to invade a sovereign country on the basis that the regime in that country was involved in the terrorist attack on 9/11 and had WMD. Neither of which where ever proven to be true. Then the spin turned to liberation of the Iraq people but there was no clear plan on how to achieve this and perhaps no clear understanding of the dynamics of Iraq. In some ways the US has a simplistic view, insofar that they think, 'we kicked the British out and lived happily ever after' so if we give others that sort of opportunity it will work out well. However one of the key differences is that America was a young country with lots of opportunity and the people there pretty much had a common goal (especially since they mostly had a common background). Whereas in most other countries there are centuries old rivalries between the different ethnic groups and all those groups are trying to grab as much for themselves as they can. Plus throw into the mix some religious nut jobs who appeal to the young who have no job and can see no future and you get a nasty brew. However the real question is how do you fix the mess, sure send in the troops, wipe out as much of ISIS as you can and then declare job done again but then another group of nutters will jump up and cycle will repeat. President Bush junior had a lot of years to achieve some sort of stability in Iraq but no, lets blame Obama because he is a democrat and has a sort of foreign name. Hendrik who sometimes mixes fact with fiction On 18/09/14 07:06, Meade Dillon via Mercedes wrote: Curt, I've asked several Iraqis point blank: did America do the right thing? The answer they gave me is Yes!. The Iraqis didn't throw us out, Barack Hussein Obama made it a campaign pledge to pull us out. Iraq very much wanted to negotiate an agreement for our troops to stay, it was Obama who ended those negotiations. Max Dillon, Charleston SC ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com All posts are the result of individual contributors and as such, those individuals are responsible for the content of the post. The list owner has no control over the content of the messages of each contributor.
Re: [MBZ] [ADMIN] - Politics
Yeah I am not sure but yeah there is a bit of finger pointing and blame laying being done. It just seems we cannot discuss world affairs without someone getting politically emotional about it. However it does not matter, as no one is listening and the powers that be will do the same old stuff. Pitting the pawns against one another to keep the King safe. Hendrik who will ask a Merc question in a minute On 18/09/14 10:51, Kaleb C. Striplin via Mercedes wrote: What subject? I have not been Paying attention. Do I need to get the pooferator out? Sent from my iPhone On Sep 17, 2014, at 7:51 PM, Dan Penoff via Mercedes mercedes@okiebenz.com wrote: OK, folks, I let this thread run its course and it's started to degrade into areas where we have agreed not to go. Best to put it to bed now and find other, more appropriate subject matter. No more replies or responses to the subject, please. Thank you for your cooperation. Dan ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com All posts are the result of individual contributors and as such, those individuals are responsible for the content of the post. The list owner has no control over the content of the messages of each contributor.
Re: [MBZ] We interrupt your politics to talk about: A car!
Not really worth an ATTABOY as someone else did the work. Hendrik who is just so mean On 18/09/14 10:55, Jim Cathey via Mercedes wrote: Today I picked up the 560 SEL from the shop. $1500 got it a used replacement transmission and the rear wheel bearing tightened. It drives like it ought to again. -- Jim ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com All posts are the result of individual contributors and as such, those individuals are responsible for the content of the post. The list owner has no control over the content of the messages of each contributor.
Re: [MBZ] We interrupt your politics to talk about: A cars air con
My A/C has been a bit naughty lately, the compressor will run when hot wired and it gets cool but otherwise the system will only run for a short period and then switch off. My suspicion is the Klima relay, I have had a bit of a solder around on the board but it's still flakey, may be the RPM sensor on the compressor but it's within spec. Anyone have any clues or BTDT? Hendrik who would like AC soon ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com All posts are the result of individual contributors and as such, those individuals are responsible for the content of the post. The list owner has no control over the content of the messages of each contributor.
Re: [MBZ] We interrupt your politics to talk about: A car!
Well your going have to take it up with the keeper of the ATTABOYS, if Wilton thinks you are worthy he may graciously award you one but I say no, unless you lay under the car and lifted the box out with your bare hands and made a blood sacrifice to the car Gods, who in this case would be Daimler and Benz. Hendrik who is falling behind in the ATTABOY awards rankings On 18/09/14 11:08, Jim Cathey wrote: Not really worth an ATTABOY as someone else did the work. But _I_ test-drove it! -- Jim ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com All posts are the result of individual contributors and as such, those individuals are responsible for the content of the post. The list owner has no control over the content of the messages of each contributor.
Re: [MBZ] We interrupt your politics to talk about: A cars air con
Well if I had pressure gauges, speaking of which did you know that fuel pressure gauges can be used to check transmission pressures? Anyway what I meant to say that there is refrigerant in the system and it was 'topped up' before last summer. Hendrik who is under pressure On 18/09/14 11:11, Jim Cathey wrote: when hot wired and it gets cool but It gets cool is not sufficient. What are the pressures doing when it is running? One of the safety switches could be engaging. -- Jim ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com All posts are the result of individual contributors and as such, those individuals are responsible for the content of the post. The list owner has no control over the content of the messages of each contributor.
Re: [MBZ] We interrupt your politics to talk about: A car!
Don't know perhaps he'll buy a 500SE and call it the carbine version? Hendrik who could not resist that crappy attempt at humour On 18/09/14 11:08, Rick Knoble via Mercedes wrote: Orginal Message From: Jim Cathey via Mercedes Sent: Wednesday, September 17, 2014 8:25 PM To: mercedes@okiebenz.com Reply To: Jim Cathey Subject: [MBZ] We interrupt your politics to talk about: A car! Today I picked up the 560 SEL from the shop. $1500 got it a used replacement transmission and the rear wheel bearing tightened. It drives like it ought to again. Oh the humanity! You_didn't_do_it_yourself? It wasn't fixed_with_Shoegoo? What next? The end of the world as we know it? Rick ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com All posts are the result of individual contributors and as such, those individuals are responsible for the content of the post. The list owner has no control over the content of the messages of each contributor.
Re: [MBZ] What abut this?
What about it? It's a beige six cylinder W108 with carbies and possible issues after sitting for 8 years. Cheap enough I suppose? Hendrik who used to own a beige 123 with a carby On 18/09/14 11:20, Kaleb C. Striplin via Mercedes wrote: 1969 Mercedes Benz 280 S http://salina.craigslist.org/cto/4671704278.html ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com All posts are the result of individual contributors and as such, those individuals are responsible for the content of the post. The list owner has no control over the content of the messages of each contributor.
Re: [MBZ] OT but food for thought
The issue is not so much why they are there but the big question is how to go about making some real progress towards stability in the region but we better not discuss that. Anyway when you say you lost the back box, do you mean the actual arrows or will foxy just not remember where it was a few minutes ago? Can you go back by right clicking a page and selecting back? Haven't used foxy in a while as it became too bloated, chrome has spat a dummy after an upgrade so i am using chromium at the moment. Hendrik who gets frustrated with all this high tech stuff sometimes On 18/09/14 11:36, archer75--- via Mercedes wrote: Wow! It doesn't take long for this group to implode! Since some people say the reason we are in the Middle East is OIL!, let's stir some of that in and really get everyones cajones in an uproar. (Just kidding!) In the meantime, I've lost something and would really be grateful if one of the computer experts on the list would help me find it. It's the back box in Firefox. It's driving me almost as crazy as when one of my old VW Beetles lost its backup gear. I can still hear the UF students laughing while I pushed it out of a parking space at the Thirsty Gator. I've looked everywhere, tried everything, and can't imagine where it got off to. Really getting tired of having to reload a website every time I want to go back one page. Thanks in advance, Gerry ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com All posts are the result of individual contributors and as such, those individuals are responsible for the content of the post. The list owner has no control over the content of the messages of each contributor.
Re: [MBZ] What abut this?
Sure, I can't see any obvious rust and it may be a low K example that wasn't driven much and spent it's life under cover. The only way to really tell what it's like is to have a look. The thing is if it is a very good original example you should keep it so and not drop in a better engine. Not sure how well it would go in modern traffic and it will want to have a big drink at the servo every now and then but if it is a bit of a project/weekend cruiser, then yeah. Really depends what you want in the way of the 108/9, this one may fly under the radar as it is not a V8 or a 109. Hendrik who would look at that if he was in the market for one On 18/09/14 11:46, Kaleb C. Striplin via Mercedes wrote: Looks nice From The outside ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com All posts are the result of individual contributors and as such, those individuals are responsible for the content of the post. The list owner has no control over the content of the messages of each contributor.
Re: [MBZ] What abut this?
Yes it is a bit suss that no pictures where taken of the interior, unless the thing was locked and this is some sort of sales agent getting rid of farmer Browns old Church wagon. However I can't see the point if the seller is trying to hide the interior, as it will be looked at eventually. Although the interior won't tell you much, as they are so hard wearing a interior out of a 34k mile car can look just like one from a 134k one, the only tell tale would be pedal wear and steering wheel wear if applicable. Plus interiors are relatively easy to repair/replace, it's rust that would determine if this is worth mucking around with. Once you start with metalwork and paint, it gets pricey. Then again if it needs paint, Klebby could paint it lime green and get a green interior from somewhere and drop in a OM or V8. Plus some 20 spinners to get Wilton excited. Then there is bag it option to drop it low. Hendrik who would like a lime green 108 http://www.google.com.au/url?sa=isource=imagescd=cad=rjauact=8docid=6mC7H9hyOv2y8Mtbnid=a9OcL-thSZtUBM:ved=0CAgQjRw4Sgurl=http%3A%2F%2Fredseahome.blogspot.com%2F2011%2F03%2Fsaudi-car-show.htmlei=wk4aVO_tGYH48QWLs4LoAQpsig=AFQjCNGxc5Pz_xzzA6TQs5kgQGhxKCD2cwust=1411096642609349 On 18/09/14 12:32, Andrew Strasfogel wrote: wondering about the condition of the interior... Also, 280S is NOT fun to drive - better to wait for an SE ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com All posts are the result of individual contributors and as such, those individuals are responsible for the content of the post. The list owner has no control over the content of the messages of each contributor.
Re: [MBZ] Carbine Digest, Vol 106, Issue 71
I'm not trying to stifle discussion but this topic has been gone over many a times. And I don't think there is anything new to throw in the mix. Whether an AR-15 is a semi-automatic rifle or carbine is neither here nor there, I suppose they come in both full length and shortened versions? Sure the pro-gun mob prefer the term carbine and anti-gun crowd prefer assault rifle. Regarding our laws in Oz, I have said it many a times, if it gets that bad that I feel I need a weapon to defend myself against the crazies, I will move somewhere better. And just to remind you all, it's not illegal to own a firearm in Oz but you need to have a good reason to own one and home defence is not a suitable reason. As I have said before, I feel good that there are stringent controls in place, so not just any numpty can buy a weapon to shove in his missus face and make him feel like a big man. Or pull the trigger in a moment of depression. http://www.news.com.au/national/lockhart-shooting-wagga-wagga-community-reeling-after-hunt-family-tragedy/story-fncynjr2-1227053811861 Hendrik who is going for an job interview this morning On 17/09/14 03:05, Andrew Strasfogel via Mercedes wrote: This is like one of those cliques you see at parties where three guys are engaged in animated conversation to the exclusion of everyone else, on a nerdy topic of no interest to the rest of the gathering. I feel like telling them to take it outside. On Tue, Sep 16, 2014 at 12:56 PM, Dwight Giles via Mercedes mercedes@okiebenz.com wrote: I echo what Hendrik wrote. Where's the Mercedes content? On Sep 16, 2014 11:54 AM, Addison Thompson via Mercedes mercedes@okiebenz.com wrote: Just to clarify, an AR-15 is often defined as a carbine, a short-barreled rifle. AT On Sep 16, 2014, at 5:00 AM, mercedes-requ...@okiebenz.com wrote: From: Hendrik and Fay heni...@gmail.com Subject: [MBZ] OT Re: Subject: Re: N assault Date: September 15, 2014 8:53:55 PM PDT To: Mercedes Discussion List mercedes@okiebenz.com And why are you stirring up emotions about this? This list has argued the point many times about weapon classification and usually it ends up in a somewhat heated debate. The article http://www.wral.com/homeowner-shoots-intruder-in-vance-county-break-in/13638825/ states a AR-15 rifle was used, which would suggest a full size weapon. It may well have been a carbine version but we don't know that for sure. Hendrik who owns no weapons be they for assault or defence, hmmnh perhaps in this case they could have called it a defence rifle, perhaps retreat rifle On 16/09/14 10:48, Meade Dillon via Mercedes wrote: Carbine? No no no, he used an ASSAULT RIFLE!!! If your local media had correctly identified the AR-15 as an ASSAULT RIFLE, Al Sharpton and CNN and all the rest could have breathlessly reported and agitated and stirred up the righteous we know better than you crowd, and distracted us all from the ballooning federal debt and the miserable economy and the creeping inflation of our fiat currency... Just think of the blue-state fund-raising opportunities that were missed! Max Dillon, ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com All posts are the result of individual contributors and as such, those individuals are responsible for the content of the post. The list owner has no control over the content of the messages of each contributor.
Re: [MBZ] OT Re: Subject: Re: N assaulting
Actually the term 'assault rifle' was derived from the Nazi Germany term 'sturmgewehr' meaning storming rifle and has since been universally applied to the group of weapons that are not full size rifles or sub-machine guns/machine pistol. Although by the time the MP-44 came along, Nazi Germany was not doing a hell of a lot of storming anything and it was mainly used in defence. Sure it's more of a nickname than an actual military term, I don't think any army in the world calls their weapons 'assault rifle' in official lingo.who lives in a civilized country Hendrik who lives in a civilized country On 16/09/14 13:51, G Mann wrote: Excellent point Hendrik, calling them defense rifles [American spelling] rather than assault weapons. The term assault rifle is one manufactured by the largely anti-self defense crowd to do exactly what you speak to, stir up emotion, and draw attention away from the useful effect of being able to defend ones self. That was used to full effect in Australia to the point where personal ownership of the means to defend yourself has been removed. To us Yanks, the Land Down Under is now the land of the unarmed victim but then.. we've always been a scruffy lot.. albeit well armed.. I belong to a group here that meets about 2 times a year... Just for you.. a video of a meet last spring... https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JA8I5ADd4Mk It takes a bit to load because it's a long video.. Thought you might enjoy watching .. Big boys... bit toys... Grant... ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com All posts are the result of individual contributors and as such, those individuals are responsible for the content of the post. The list owner has no control over the content of the messages of each contributor.
[MBZ] OT more ebay crazies
Further in the series of whacky things on ebay I present this gem http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/Barn-Find-amongst-Vincent-Brough-Superior-Norton-BSA-etc-/321525047161 I suppose now that ebay lets you list stuff for free we will see more of this sort of thing. Hendrik who has some real stuff on ebay ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com All posts are the result of individual contributors and as such, those individuals are responsible for the content of the post. The list owner has no control over the content of the messages of each contributor.
Re: [MBZ] Carbine Digest, Vol 106, Issue 71 OT no Merc content whatsoever
It's just the nature of the beast, often times a thread will diverge and end up being not even close to the original topic but as long as it is fun and civil, who cares. It is not like you have to sift through a couple of hundred messages every day, these old school email based discussion lists where never meant for hundreds of people, perhaps dozens. Perhaps in a a perfect world, there would be perfect discussion lists but I figure, given how much it costs to be a part of this list, you sort of have to put up with a few issues. There is lots of stuff discussed here that I have little interest in but someone else may be highly interested, to be sure some of the stuff I post is probably of little interest to some here but perhaps someone will listen to my crap. As has been said before, I we tighten up the rules regarding what can and can't be discussed/asked here, we will have close to zero messages, cause people take the safe route and not ask, for fear of offending someone. Hendrik who is dribbling again On 17/09/14 11:47, Dwight Giles via Mercedes wrote: I guess I should be more specific more permissive. I would like to stop what you call political tripe not apple trees or BMW. Yes I can delete IF listers use correct headings. My question is why should I have to. DAN- Mr moderator What do you say? ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com All posts are the result of individual contributors and as such, those individuals are responsible for the content of the post. The list owner has no control over the content of the messages of each contributor.
Re: [MBZ] Daimler basics
Ahh yes the old 'lets turn back time' thread, we want a simple car for simple folk, lets build the 123 in India or somewhere. Problem is modern engines are complex and need to be to meet emissions, sure manual gearbox technology has not changed much, neither have brakes and suspensions, if you just want the basics. These days you probably can't order a manual Merc in the US or Oz unless it is a commercial vehicle? Daimler would probably love to sell you a simple and reliable 240D style car for lots of dollars but people want gadgets and these gadgets need electronics. The tronics need to be fed. Hendrik who has a few complex system in the Merc but relatively simple to fix On 17/09/14 12:00, Rick Knoble via Mercedes wrote: From: dseretakis--- via Mercedes Sent: Tuesday, September 16, 2014 9:15 PM To: Gary Hurst; Mercedes Discussion List Reply To: dsereta...@yahoo.com Subject: Re: [MBZ] Daimler Times change, cars change. If Mercedes would build a 240D in this day and age it would become the laughing stock of auto manufacturers. However, something in the spirit of a 240D might work. Simple, really well built and economical. Volkswagen kind of does it with the Jetta diesel. Why can't Mercedes do it with a C class or CLA or B? They could do it with the E250 and I would not complain one bit. Rick ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com All posts are the result of individual contributors and as such, those individuals are responsible for the content of the post. The list owner has no control over the content of the messages of each contributor.
Re: [MBZ] Shotgun
Ahhmnh. have nothing to contribute to this discussion but for the first time in many months a message I posted to the list actually showed up in my MBZ folder, did someone somewhere push some buttons? Perhaps it was a once of fluke? Hendrik who battled the evil telcos today and thinks he won On 16/09/14 12:40, G Mann via Mercedes wrote: Dan, Let me know off list what it is and I'll try to assist you in disposing of it via legal venue. As it happens, I have some expertise available in the field. Grant... ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com All posts are the result of individual contributors and as such, those individuals are responsible for the content of the post. The list owner has no control over the content of the messages of each contributor.
Re: [MBZ] Proving that CL MB sellers aren't the ONLY ones on crack...
Perhaps if someone is looking to create a wreck on their railroad? However this beats it, I think http://cgi.ebay.com.au/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItemitem=181520747247 Hendrik who should auction off his old receipts instead of throwing them out On 15/09/14 11:04, M. Mitchell Marmel via Mercedes wrote: http://www.ebay.com/itm/181523868256 -MMM- ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com All posts are the result of individual contributors and as such, those individuals are responsible for the content of the post. The list owner has no control over the content of the messages of each contributor.
Re: [MBZ] Here is another one
More than likely there is an issue with the D-jet, perhaps needs new trigger points? Might be alright if you want a project and if the body is 100% rust free (although me thinks the seller would have mentioned that as a selling point, so you can assume there is tin worm), otherwise that other one would be better value but generally like most ads, you only hear half the story. Hendrik who has no racoons On 10/09/14 13:06, Andrew Strasfogel via Mercedes wrote: There's at least $5k worth of work needed just to make it safe to drive, including reassembling the dash but not repainting the body. Needs a tuneup probably translates to needs a valve job. If it's green it would look awesome repainted, but by then we're in the upper brackets. ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com All posts are the result of individual contributors and as such, those individuals are responsible for the content of the post. The list owner has no control over the content of the messages of each contributor.
Re: [MBZ] nitrogen Jackpot!
I would say that for a car on a public road N is a waste of money. They use it a lot in motorsports where a psi or two can make a difference to handling and the tires get pretty hot. Hendrik who has standard air in the round rubber things On 10/09/14 01:55, G Mann via Mercedes wrote: I have it on good report that the SR-71 airplane used Nitrogen to pressurize the tires... thus if you also use nitrogen in your tires your car will go Mach 3+... I'm sure that's how it works. On Tue, Sep 9, 2014 at 8:58 AM, Andrew Strasfogel via Mercedes mercedes@okiebenz.com wrote: What's the diff between air and N2 in terms of tire performance or handling or ??? ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com All posts are the result of individual contributors and as such, those individuals are responsible for the content of the post. The list owner has no control over the content of the messages of each contributor.
Re: [MBZ] OT: The secret revealed
Well perhaps it may improve mileage by .03% but it's more to do with looks and styling, giving it a more sporty look, rather than utilitarian workhorse. http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/4/46/Dodge_Ram_SRT-10.jpg http://www.drivearabia.com/news/wp-content/uploads/2011/01/2011-Dodge-Ram-Runner-2.jpg http://www.carautoportal.com/car-images/dodge/dodge-ram/dodge-ram-new.jpg Hendrik who has no spoilers and don't need em On 09/09/14 00:27, Randy Bennell via Mercedes wrote: That chin spoiler is supposed to improve your mileage by preventing air from going under the truck on the highway. You need to make one that can be lifted or lowered depending on where you are driving. Hydraulic or air cylinders? And the winch? Must be some way to make an anchor that you could drive into the ground so you could pull yourself free. I used to work with a fellow who was an avid hunter and fisherman. He drove 4 WD Suburbans and said if he had to choose he would take the winch rather than the 4WD. RB On 08/09/2014 9:52 AM, Curt Raymond via Mercedes wrote: Most places we go theres not much to winch to. More useful is the Highlift jack. Jack 'er up and stuff something (like the extraction ramps) under the tire. I am considering a new bumper though, the Dodge has a huge chin and a plastic air dam very close to the ground. I forsee the air dam getting ripped off pretty early on, its only maybe 6 off the ground. -Curt ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com All posts are the result of individual contributors and as such, those individuals are responsible for the content of the post. The list owner has no control over the content of the messages of each contributor.
Re: [MBZ] This worth anywhere near the listed price?
Hard to say without having a good look at it, if as described 6k is not far off the mark, the 108/9s are going up in price lately, as they have the classic Merc look and are still very usable as a daily driver. It's a V8 with steel suspension, so no carbies or air suspension to spend up on. Air suspension is universally regarded as being superior to steel springs but can cost a bit to fix. So yeah if you are wanting a 108 without breaking the bank and being afraid to drive it, this would be it. I really don't think you would find a much cheaper V8 108 than this, unless it's a total junk pile. Hendrik who has a secret lust for V8 108/9s On 09/09/14 08:55, Kaleb C. Striplin via Mercedes wrote: I have never had one of these that was not a parts car and have always wanted one. Sent from my iPhone On Sep 8, 2014, at 6:23 PM, Peter Frederick psf...@earthlink.net wrote: Six big ones might be a bit high, but they really are wonderful cars. That one has incorrect aftermarket exhaust, you'd need to replace it with a correct TimeValve one (which will last forever), but otherwise seems pretty nice. Loved mine, but it's gotta go away, too rusty to make it driveable any more. Peter ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com All posts are the result of individual contributors and as such, those individuals are responsible for the content of the post. The list owner has no control over the content of the messages of each contributor.
Re: [MBZ] This worth anywhere near the listed price?
It seems in the last couple of years the market has really picked up for these, over here there are some crazy prices being asked for them, especially the coupes. AU$20k for a good 3.5 sedan is not unheard of. Hendrik who couldn't afford a 20k 108/9 On 09/09/14 09:15, Meade Dillon via Mercedes wrote: My Dad sold one just a couple years ago, about half that price. No rust at all, but badly re-painted so it looked shabby. He replaced the interior and all the chrome, but didn't want to invest in the paint job. Max Dillon, ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com All posts are the result of individual contributors and as such, those individuals are responsible for the content of the post. The list owner has no control over the content of the messages of each contributor.
Re: [MBZ] This worth anywhere near the listed price?
Yeah but you got to compare it to the 3.5 and 2.8, neither of which are super efficient. You also got to compare it to other cars of that era, none of which got good mileage, apart from some of the Diesel ones but even they are crap when compared to modern electronic Diesels. A 108/9 with a modern Diesel engine would be cool or even convert it to a hybrid. There is a fella on the OzBenz forum who is toying with the idea of converting a CLK to hybrid, the upshot is pretty much that it will never pay for itself. Hendrik whose TE gets relatively poor mileage On 09/09/14 09:50, Peter Frederick via Mercedes wrote: Sweet cars, but be prepared for TERRIBLE milage -- I got 17 on the highway, 12 in town. Peter ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com All posts are the result of individual contributors and as such, those individuals are responsible for the content of the post. The list owner has no control over the content of the messages of each contributor.
Re: [MBZ] This worth anywhere near the listed price?
Aaah now your talking like an S class owner. You'll have to get Reggie to drive you around but you should get an SEL for the extra legroom. Hendrik who does not have a chauffeur, well actually daughter has license, spose I could afford a shabby 126 SEL On 09/09/14 10:03, Kaleb C. Striplin via Mercedes wrote: One probably does not own one for the mileage though. Sent from my iPhone On Sep 8, 2014, at 7:20 PM, Peter Frederick psf...@earthlink.net wrote: Sweet cars, but be prepared for TERRIBLE milage -- I got 17 on the highway, 12 in town. Peter ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com All posts are the result of individual contributors and as such, those individuals are responsible for the content of the post. The list owner has no control over the content of the messages of each contributor.
Re: [MBZ] Sure wish it was a diesel
Not quite, the 250 was sold both with a 2.5 and 2.8 litre engine alongside the 280/E with the M110 engine. http://wiki.mercedes-benz-classic.com/index.php/Kategorie:W114/W115/en Hendrik who has never owned a /8 but does like it in coupe form On 07/09/14 12:21, Gary Hurst via Mercedes wrote: 250 becomes the 280 later in 114 run. On Sat, Sep 6, 2014 at 10:35 PM, Kaleb C. Striplin via Mercedes mercedes@okiebenz.com wrote: I might be considering it even though it is gas, never had a gas 115 except for that 250 ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com All posts are the result of individual contributors and as such, those individuals are responsible for the content of the post. The list owner has no control over the content of the messages of each contributor.
Re: [MBZ] Sure wish it was a diesel
Less horsepower and similar if not worse mileage than the injected M110, however a little simpler to work on but that is not such an issue these days, as there is tons of info out there about the D-jetronic system. Hendrik who has never mucked around with D-jet On 07/09/14 13:01, Kaleb C. Striplin via Mercedes wrote: So what's the story with the 110 280 carbs etc? Sent from my iPhone On Sep 6, 2014, at 10:25 PM, Hendrik and Fay via Mercedes mercedes@okiebenz.com wrote: Not quite, the 250 was sold both with a 2.5 and 2.8 litre engine alongside the 280/E with the M110 engine. http://wiki.mercedes-benz-classic.com/index.php/Kategorie:W114/W115/en Hendrik ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com All posts are the result of individual contributors and as such, those individuals are responsible for the content of the post. The list owner has no control over the content of the messages of each contributor.
Re: [MBZ] vintage precision scale you love
You I can been stored for dripping coffee http://www.ebay.com/itm/Hario-Coffee-Drip-Scale-Timer-V60-VST-2000B-Black-Jpan-/201122474978?pt=Small_Kitchen_Appliances_UShash=item2ed3d56be2 To be fair his/her Engrish is better than my Japanese. Hendrik who is furiously hunting all over the place for an American made, vintage digital scale to send mao for fathers day On 04/09/14 15:34, Greg Fiorentino via Mercedes wrote: The model I have is the one that was recommended by America's Test Kitchen (Cooks' Illustrated), but I believe they had just shifted production to China. The build quality seems very good and it has lasted for years with frequent use. Some Chinese made products have excellent quality control, such as the ThinkPad I'm typing on now. Others...not so much. Greg -Original Message- From: Mountain Man [mailto:maontin@gmail.com] Sent: Wednesday, September 03, 2014 5:50 PM To: Greg Fiorentino; Mercedes Discussion List Subject: Re: [MBZ] vintage precision scale Greg wrote: Yet most of my weighing is done on a classic vintage Soehnle kitchen scale... There's a name to chase - Soehnle - thanks. Is your Soehnle made in Germany? One digital Soehnle online is: http://www.ebay.com/itm/351157394861 I need less than 100g so this is really all I need: http://www.ebay.com/itm/221536204973 The primary objective is nothing china. To attain this objective means I search vintage. This is why I started this thread. Someplace online talked about vintage digital scales and the types of scales. It was mentioned that some vintage digital scales need capacitors replaced. Does anyone have experience with these vintage scales and capacitor failure? Thanks. mao ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com All posts are the result of individual contributors and as such, those individuals are responsible for the content of the post. The list owner has no control over the content of the messages of each contributor.
Re: [MBZ] Huge Dodge V6 diesel
Ahh come on now huge gas guzzlers are as American as apple pie and Uncle Sam. BTW that Cummins motor is made in China, so not sure how long it would last or the reliability of it. You would expect that Cummins would not want their name tarnished by junk. Hendrik whose 'truck' is not that efficient On 03/09/14 15:01, Meade Dillon via Mercedes wrote: Typical, everyone else gets small efficient diesel-engine powered trucks, but back here in 'Merica, no soup for you!. Rather ironic this Chinee truck is sporting a Cummins 4-cylinder turbo-diesel, but nobody offers that engine here at home. Max Dillon, Charleston SC On Sep 2, 2014 10:51 PM, Hendrik and Fay via Mercedes mercedes@okiebenz.com wrote: Speaking of Cummins powered utes http://fotonmotors.com.au/foton/default.asp?gclid=CIGKs5SDxMACFQF9vQod82MASA I can see a lot tight fisted farmers getting these. Hendrik ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com All posts are the result of individual contributors and as such, those individuals are responsible for the content of the post. The list owner has no control over the content of the messages of each contributor.
Re: [MBZ] Dodge V6 diesel
Speaking of Cummins powered utes http://fotonmotors.com.au/foton/default.asp?gclid=CIGKs5SDxMACFQF9vQod82MASA I can see a lot tight fisted farmers getting these. Hendrik who doesn't have a Cummins engine On 03/09/14 01:15, Curt Raymond via Mercedes wrote: Having driven one I am too, its not a refined engine, more like my 240D (with much more power of course) than my TDI. That said I haven't driven any of the competition to compare. -Curt From: Kaleb C. Striplin via Mercedes mercedes@okiebenz.com To: Mercedes Discussion List mercedes@okiebenz.com Sent: Tuesday, September 2, 2014 11:37 AM Subject: Re: [MBZ] Dodge V6 diesel I am amazed at how much old junky dodges with cummins sells for around here. ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com All posts are the result of individual contributors and as such, those individuals are responsible for the content of the post. The list owner has no control over the content of the messages of each contributor.
Re: [MBZ] Classic car lock, stock and mac
Well yeah, you may be right, style without substance only gets you so far. It seems that there are people trying to make viruses for macs http://www.smh.com.au/digital-life/computers/apple-drops-claim-that-macs-dont-get-viruses-20120703-21ei4.html The hack a celeb nude from the cloud thingy won't help. One of the key selling points used to be that a mac is easier and safer to use than windows, it perhaps may be still easier than windows (I haven't kept up with windows much but son has winders on his school lapdog and seems to get along alright with it) but I do know we had a major crash on our mac book pro, which needed the whole operating system to be reinstalled, this brought back memories of using windows and how every know and then it spat the dummy and needed a clean install. Plus they wanted to charge us to get iphoto back on the mac, which I managed to get off our original installation CD but the issue still remains that apple was being greedy there and before you say ooh but you should not expect to get a program for free well we paid for it when we bought the mac originally and had we not chosen the pro with a CD drive, we may well have been at the mercy of apple and the AU$19 charge for iphoto https://itunes.apple.com/au/app/iphoto/id408981381?mt=12 not too mention how the heck I would have recovered the OS without a CD. I tried all the inbuilt recovery things but only a clean install got it to work again. It just seems that without Jobs being the figurehead, apple is starting to be exposed to be just like windows, only more expensive, which will drive a lot of folk to android. That image of being hip because you got a mac has pretty much gone. Daimler found that out too, relying on past glories does not guarantee future success and maybe it's apples turn to go through a bit of a slump, again but the question is do they have the visionaries to pull them out of the slump? Slashing the prices of their products is not the answer I think, as it will expose them for the overcharging they have been doing for years. Hendrik who is sending this via an old penguin powered desktop machine On 02/09/14 10:41, Curt Raymond via Mercedes wrote: Apple is in trouble. They've basically given the professional world the finger with the new MacPro, their phones are twice the money for no added features and their last tablet release sucked, it had less resolution than a Kindle for 50% more money. The world is starting to wake up. They've got to actually do something if they want to stay on top, image only lasts for awhile, look at Blackberry. -Curt ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com All posts are the result of individual contributors and as such, those individuals are responsible for the content of the post. The list owner has no control over the content of the messages of each contributor.
Re: [MBZ] vintage precision scale
So you want a vintage scale, made in the US of A, less than 200g capacity, .1g accuracy(? for coffee) and willing to pay only $? This the sort of thing http://www.ebay.com/itm/Vintage-1960s-R-47-PELOUZE-PRECISION-METRIC-GRAM-BALANCE-SCALE-w-Brass-Weights-/161406999100?pt=LH_DefaultDomain_0hash=item25949b5a3chttp://www.ebay.com/itm/Vintage-1960s-R-47-PELOUZE-PRECISION-METRIC-GRAM-BALANCE-SCALE-w-Brass-Weights-/181513000684?pt=LH_DefaultDomain_0hash=item2a430496ec Perhaps you could try trash and treasure markets? If such a thing exists in your neck of the woods. On 03/09/14 12:31, Archer75--- via Mercedes wrote: http://www.ebay.com/sch/sis.html?_nkw=Torbal+Torsion+Balance+Model+PL+2+Laboratory+2KG+Scale+Balance On 9/2/2014 5:35 PM, Mountain Man via Mercedes wrote: vintage precision scale i.e. max 200g 0.1g accuracy made in usa for me? - measure ground coffee but i bet the market sells these for contraband. i read that some designs have caps that fail? are there other failure modes? does anyone use vintage scale to recommend? anyone want to sell decent scale/balance? i see swiss made 50g scales but they fetch $$. thanks. mao ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com All posts are the result of individual contributors and as such, those individuals are responsible for the content of the post. The list owner has no control over the content of the messages of each contributor.
Re: [MBZ] Old cop car CVs, was BMW 325 Station Wagon
Does the lighter work on them? https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yil9wlfa0yo Hendrik whose lighter sort of works On 02/09/14 02:28, clay via Mercedes wrote: Old cop cruisers are out of fashion in the taxi trade, so auction prices are in the pits. You can snag a good example for under $2k. The 2007-2011 models maybe hit 3k clay On Aug 31, 2014, at 5:05 PM, Greg Fiorentino via Mercedes wrote: My son and I both have Crown Vics. His is a 97 and mine a 95. They are good highway cruisers but do not handle as well as a MB. Expect mid 20s in MPG for those vintages. The engineering is good and the power adequate. Mine has the digital dash with excellent climate control. Some years had some flaws, the 97 had a plastic coolant crossover which leaked, was replaced with the alloy one. Good engine longevity. And, despite scary reports the insurance companies rate them very high for safety. When we bought these they were very cheap compared to Japanese iron. Greg ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com All posts are the result of individual contributors and as such, those individuals are responsible for the content of the post. The list owner has no control over the content of the messages of each contributor.
Re: [MBZ] M103 Timing Cover Sealing the deal
The trick is to put the cam seal in AFTER installing the cover, there is a special tool for installing the cover with cam seal in place but who has that? Check the seating of the timing cover seal before installing the cam seal. The sealant is important insofar that you get stuff that does not go hard, I put some in the groove to help hold the U shaped seal in place while installing and you need to put some on the mating surfaces as well. If your not 100% sure you have the right sealant, go and get some. Hendrik who thinks he finally managed to seal up the timing cover On 01/09/14 03:30, Dan Penoff via Mercedes wrote: Thanks, Peter. I've looked over a number of DIY procedures for this on BenzWorld and PeachParts, so this pretty much dovetails with them. Thanks for taking the time to write this out, I appreciate it. When you say, Put a small amount of the sealant in each corner are you talking about the ends of the groove where the seal fits? I would assume this is to hold it in place? I was going to put a new cam seal on it - is it necessary if the current one isn't leaking? And not to sound stupid, but I've never had silicone grease, other than dielectric grease, around the garage. Is it the same thing as the silicone dielectric grease? Thanks! Dan ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com All posts are the result of individual contributors and as such, those individuals are responsible for the content of the post. The list owner has no control over the content of the messages of each contributor.
Re: [MBZ] M103 Timing Cover Sealing the deal
Installing the top timing chain cover with the cam seal in place is just about impossible to get right. Very easy to fit the cam seal after installing the chain cover. Essentially you want to put the cover in at an angle so the bottom part is just about where it needs to be and then push in the top. If you try to push the cover on straight it will more than likely distort the U seal. With the cam seal in place you have to push the cover on pretty much straight and then the U seal will pop out of place and naughty angry words may be said. The problem apart from the cam seal are the pins and you may need to give the cover a gentle tap with a rubber mallet. Hendrik who has done this job a few times On 01/09/14 10:17, Dan Penoff wrote: Thanks for the pointers, Hendrik. I figured I could do the cam seal in place, especially since I don't recall there being a shoulder for it to stop against? I'm not going to risk seven year old sealant, believe me. I'l get a new tube of it when I pick up the seals. Dan On Aug 31, 2014, at 8:11 PM, Hendrik and Fay via Mercedes mercedes@okiebenz.com mailto:mercedes@okiebenz.com wrote: The trick is to put the cam seal in AFTER installing the cover, there is a special tool for installing the cover with cam seal in place but who has that? Check the seating of the timing cover seal before installing the cam seal. The sealant is important insofar that you get stuff that does not go hard, I put some in the groove to help hold the U shaped seal in place while installing and you need to put some on the mating surfaces as well. If your not 100% sure you have the right sealant, go and get some. Hendrik who thinks he finally managed to seal up the timing cover ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com All posts are the result of individual contributors and as such, those individuals are responsible for the content of the post. The list owner has no control over the content of the messages of each contributor.
Re: [MBZ] Classic car stocktake
There are a lot of questions that need to be asked, such as the running costs involved (insurance, repairs/maintenance, storage), who chooses which car to buy, can you sell your share in a hurry if needed etc. You do have to factor in the fun part, driving 7 or 8 exotics in a spirited manner, which is not something you can experience with buying stocks. However the question is has the market peaked for the time being? As Andrew said, there is a very small group willing to drop big cash on old iron but there is also a lot of new money around and this sort of thing may appeal to wealthy folks from China, Russia and such, who would go to England for their holiday to drive flash cars, without the need to import and store the cars. Hendrik who will not be investing On 01/09/14 11:46, Andrew Strasfogel via Mercedes wrote: It's a very thin market. At those prices there may only be one or two bidders.. On Sun, Aug 31, 2014 at 9:43 PM, Dwight Giles via Mercedes mercedes@okiebenz.com wrote: Might be a good idea. I watch a lot of collector/vintage auctions on the car porn channel. (Velocity channel) even the experts are often wrong about how much these cars bring. And when the economy tanks agsin everything goes down anyway. On Aug 31, 2014 4:02 PM, dseretakis--- via Mercedes mercedes@okiebenz.com wrote: I always thought the stock market was a waste of time. These people likely feel the same way. What a cool model: http://www.telegraph.co.uk/motoring/classiccars/10830299/Investors-sought-to-cash-in-on-rising-classic-car-values.html ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com All posts are the result of individual contributors and as such, those individuals are responsible for the content of the post. The list owner has no control over the content of the messages of each contributor.
Re: [MBZ] Today's non running car crack smoker
You know I don't think you would be able to handle all that power. However you could switch on the AC to bring the horses back under control somewhat. Hendrik who thinks this gutless thing may be more suited http://www.ebay.com/itm/Mercedes-Benz-S-Class-CALL-LUXOR-AUTOMOTIVE-TAMPA-813-876-0200-2002-mercedes-benz-s-600-s-class-low-/221531638927?forcerrptr=truehash=item3394508c8fitem=221531638927pt=US_Cars_Trucks On 26/08/14 10:47, Kaleb C. Striplin via Mercedes wrote: 220D Mercedes Benz (W115) http://tulsa.craigslist.org/cto/4636993992.html ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com All posts are the result of individual contributors and as such, those individuals are responsible for the content of the post. The list owner has no control over the content of the messages of each contributor.
Re: [MBZ] B-52 question for WILTON
What was that fellas name again? Hendrik who did not fly B-52s or anything else for that matter On 23/08/14 10:50, Mountain Man via Mercedes wrote: Is the B-52 pilot community small and tight for your generation of B-52 pilots? My son has his FAA check rides in ABQ with an FAA guy whose name is John Wagner and John Wagner used to fly B-52 and John Wagner is around 77 years old. Perhaps you know John Wagner? ...just curious... mao ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com All posts are the result of individual contributors and as such, those individuals are responsible for the content of the post. The list owner has no control over the content of the messages of each contributor.
Re: [MBZ] I am actually considering this limited slip thingy
I seem to remember that the ASR system can be problematic and best avoided unless needed, such as in the snow. Hendrik who once looked at a black HK 300TE with ASR and too much rust On 22/08/14 11:50, Kaleb C. Striplin via Mercedes wrote: Yep Sent from my iPhone On Aug 21, 2014, at 9:12 PM, Meade Dillon dillonm...@gmail.com wrote: Must have ASR? Max Dillon, Charleston SC On Aug 21, 2014 8:42 PM, Kaleb C. Striplin via Mercedes mercedes@okiebenz.com wrote: Has traction control which is rare in a 126, too bad it's not a 560 though. 1991 MERCEDES 420 SEL LOW MILES CLEAN! http://austin.craigslist.org/cto/4607012015.html ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com All posts are the result of individual contributors and as such, those individuals are responsible for the content of the post. The list owner has no control over the content of the messages of each contributor.
Re: [MBZ] Put the crack pipe down Kaleb, Mercs cost money
See we told you that the green one is within the range, this one is worth 6k according to the seller, who obviously knows more than you, at 7.9 that frog coloured one is a steal and you should mosey on up and grab it, that may help you overcome your green obsession and move on to another colour. Hendrik who has a secret desire to own a rat merc On 21/08/14 09:56, Kaleb C. Striplin via Mercedes wrote: 85 mercedes Benz 300d turbo diesel http://tulsa.craigslist.org/cto/4613287754.html ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com All posts are the result of individual contributors and as such, those individuals are responsible for the content of the post. The list owner has no control over the content of the messages of each contributor.
Re: [MBZ] Holy rolling restorations batman
No same principle applies, say you buy a $500 rust bucket that needs major mechanical work as well. Itemise all the costs and the figure will be way high, depending on how much you can do. Plus a neglected car is more likely to break down and leave you by the side of the road, compared to one that has been maintained. Would you think that you could get a 500 beater up to the standard of that green 123 for 7k? Perhaps if you have access to a fully equipped workshop and spray booth and know how to handle all the tools like a pro. How much is a quality paint job these days? Sure anyone that is handy with their hands can do a course to learn the art and that is a challenge. Or you can spend the 7.9k on the car and go fishing with it, while some other slob starts a rolling restoration and then gets tired of it, half way through. How many of these was gonna fix er up ads do we see in a year? If working on cars is your hobby, then yeah a 'good value' car that is not perfect but is not worn out is the go, do the essential to get it to a standard of reliability and then tinker away at it, plus if you buy at the bottom of the depreciation cycle you should not lose too much money on it. Hendrik whose cars are not quite rolling restorations On 21/08/14 04:53, Andrew Strasfogel via Mercedes wrote: There is an exception to that rule. If you to plan on a restoration, it pays to purchase a *running car* as cheaply as possible so you can take your time in making the most cost effective improvements at a leisurely pace.. This explains my 18 year enjoyment and simultaneous restoration of a 1970 280SE 3.5 coupe that had lots of issues, but I could at least drive it safely while fixing and restoring things. On Wed, Aug 20, 2014 at 12:44 PM, OK Don via Mercedes mercedes@okiebenz.com wrote: My experience as well. How much will you have to pay for any MB with 68k miles accumulated at the standard rate of 12k/yr. (a 2008 model)? It looks like a bargain from that perspective. On Wed, Aug 20, 2014 at 4:37 AM, Dan Penoff via Mercedes mercedes@okiebenz.com wrote: Hendrik makes a very valid point, and one that pretty much applies to any used car purchased. That is, spend the money up front for the very best example you can find. You'll be better off than buying a fixer-upper or one that needs work, as it will most likely end up costing you more. BTDT myself. Dan ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com All posts are the result of individual contributors and as such, those individuals are responsible for the content of the post. The list owner has no control over the content of the messages of each contributor.
[MBZ] OT recycled dog food dispenser
http://www.spiegel.de/international/turkish-stray-dog-feeding-machine-a-model-for-social-design-a-986392.html#ref=nl-international Hendrik who gets 10c per drink container ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com All posts are the result of individual contributors and as such, those individuals are responsible for the content of the post. The list owner has no control over the content of the messages of each contributor.
Re: [MBZ] 1984 500SEL Surrendered
But but but the car was 60k new, so it's gotta be a bargain. Anyway, this one has K-jet, which is not as efficient as KE and will require tuning now and then. I think they also made a high compression version of this motor, from memory it will have dual air intakes. If there was a something a bit special about this car or it was completely rust free, then yeah worth mucking around with. Also for a driver the SE is a better proposition, a bit shorter which makes it easier to manoeuvre. Yeah if it was a Euro 500SE with high output motor...or even a later series 2 126, which got nicer leather and other goodies. Hey, you could paint it green and flog it off to Kaleb? Hendrik who can't buy half decent 126's for that sort of money around here On 22/08/14 08:39, Dan Penoff via Mercedes wrote: I don't really need it at this point, but if I could get it for $500 I would jump on it. The car has some potential for a decent driver but not a big money flip. After I got the tank coated and the rest of the car cleaned up I could probably get $1500 for it around here. Any more than $500 and it's not worth the effort. It will cost me $50 in gas just to tow it home. And, I have a car that I'm getting after Labor Day that's going to be occupying my time for a little while anyway. Not enugh room in the driveway Dan ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com All posts are the result of individual contributors and as such, those individuals are responsible for the content of the post. The list owner has no control over the content of the messages of each contributor.
Re: [MBZ] Holy crap batman why is it every time the perfect car comes along it is way too much money
Just to add some perspective http://www.carsales.com.au/private/details/Mercedes-Benz-300D-1979/SSE-AD-2358913/?Cr=5sdmvc=1 Plain Jane white 79 300D with piles of miles under the bundts. I know which one I would be dropping 7-8 large on. I think we just have to face the fact that Klebby is a tight wad who expects to get pristine limousine for beater money. Hendrik who would love to get his hands on a minter in exchange for a few magic beans On 20/08/14 19:04, Dan Penoff via Mercedes wrote: You'll know it's getting bad if we start calling you Richarde. Dan ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com All posts are the result of individual contributors and as such, those individuals are responsible for the content of the post. The list owner has no control over the content of the messages of each contributor.
[MBZ] Ageing hippy stars
http://www.gumtree.com.au/s-ad/clearview/cars-vans-utes/1964-mercedes-benz-220-classic-finnie-sedan/1054653024 Peace man I got a rat finnie But wait it's get better http://files.schuminweb.com/journal/2007/full-size/mercedes-peace-sign.jpg This explains everything *http://tinyurl.com/m9zduex Hendrik who has a sticker with the Merc peace symbol on the back of the TE * ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com All posts are the result of individual contributors and as such, those individuals are responsible for the content of the post. The list owner has no control over the content of the messages of each contributor.
Re: [MBZ] Holy green crap it's overpriced, I'll offer 500 greenbacks for the green car in Greensville, Greenolina
Mileage is not be all to end all, sure the preverbial driven to church on Sundays by a little old rich lady, who took the car in every year for a service is always a juicy find but it can also mean that the car stood in a shed for a long time. Anyway if Kalebster wants it, he better get after it, or can wait for the next green green green 123 to pop up. Guess no harm in putting in a low ball offer but 500 would sound silly, even by our standards. Hendrik who use to own a thistle green green tan 123 230E, which was in pretty good nick and bought off an elderly couple On 21/08/14 02:14, OK Don via Mercedes wrote: My experience as well. How much will you have to pay for any MB with 68k miles accumulated at the standard rate of 12k/yr. (a 2008 model)? It looks like a bargain from that perspective. On Wed, Aug 20, 2014 at 4:37 AM, Dan Penoff via Mercedes mercedes@okiebenz.com wrote: Hendrik makes a very valid point, and one that pretty much applies to any used car purchased. That is, spend the money up front for the very best example you can find. You'll be better off than buying a fixer-upper or one that needs work, as it will most likely end up costing you more. BTDT myself. Dan -- OK Don ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com All posts are the result of individual contributors and as such, those individuals are responsible for the content of the post. The list owner has no control over the content of the messages of each contributor.
Re: [MBZ] OT: Win7 SP1 and Oz lingo learnings
Dunno mate, seems like macs are a tad pricey, at the mo we are having an issue getting iphoto or some such thing back on the mac, seems after I updated the software, as per apple instructions, you now have to pay for it. No wonder people pirate and steal all the stuff they can lay their hands on, if it costs a couple of bucks or so, people wouldn't bother to find an alternative or steal it from somewhere. Anyway on a related NSFW note, contains lots of adult words buy hey they gotta learn: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DHQRZXM-4xIlist=RDDHQRZXM-4xI#t=48 Hendrik who is in the 30% PS what do you call a boomerang that won't come back? A stick! On 17/08/14 23:35, Dan Penoff via Mercedes wrote: Macs rule! MacDann typing this from his 2006 Mac Pro with twin 20 Cinema Displays running Mavericks and editing his new web site with iWeb ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com All posts are the result of individual contributors and as such, those individuals are responsible for the content of the post. The list owner has no control over the content of the messages of each contributor.
Re: [MBZ] Stupid people aka drongos
You pay peanuts you get monkeys. Seriously though I would have thought a lapdog HD is a SSD and as such pretty robust. Just don't ask them to ship you that rare crystal vase you bought Reggie for Mum's day. Hendrik who burned meat today and consumed beer but not from a esky On 19/08/14 07:31, Craig via Mercedes wrote: On Mon, 18 Aug 2014 16:49:09 -0500 Kaleb C. Striplin via Mercedes mercedes@okiebenz.com wrote: Had my office ship me a spare hard drive for a lap top. It arrived in about a 4x6 box, just in the box, just the jar drive, no packing material, just in the empty box. Fixing to install it, wonder what the chances are it's still good. I once bought a hard drive from someone on eBay. It arrived wrapped in a layer of cardboard. It worked. Craig ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com All posts are the result of individual contributors and as such, those individuals are responsible for the content of the post. The list owner has no control over the content of the messages of each contributor.
Re: [MBZ] Holy crap why is it every time the green car comes along it is not way too much money
Tis an odd one, looks like a basic Euro version with stupid US stuff bolted on. Anyway I don't think the price is outrageous, if the mileage is correct and everything checks out. Rustfree, well that may not be true. From what I have seen the 123 has long since moved off the bottom of the depreciation cycle, the better 124's are moving up and the 210 is just about at the bottom. 123's are now selling based on condition, not age. Many an article extolling the virtues of the 123 out there, especially the oil burners. And what about that mob that specialise in selling 123's for crazy prices? I really think this is a car for someone who appreciates the 123 chassis and not some nutjob who is going to whack in some homebrew cooking oil still in the boot. Also consider how many miles that thing will go before needing serious work. You buy a 3k 123 with issues and 200k miles, how much you gonna spend to get it into that sort of shape? To me the big ticket items are paint and rust because I can't do them myself to a satisfactory standard. Hendrik who likes that 123, except for the US stuff On 20/08/14 07:51, Kaleb C. Striplin via Mercedes wrote: I would have a hard time paying half that. Sent from my iPhone On Aug 19, 2014, at 5:19 PM, Dan Penoff via Mercedes mercedes@okiebenz.com wrote: $7900?? It's definitely a nice car, but not eight grand nice. Dan On Aug 19, 2014, at 6:10 PM, Kaleb C. Striplin via Mercedes mercedes@okiebenz.com wrote: http://chicago.craigslist.org/wcl/cto/4618189870.html ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com All posts are the result of individual contributors and as such, those individuals are responsible for the content of the post. The list owner has no control over the content of the messages of each contributor.
[MBZ] Peek a boo
http://www.carsales.com.au/private/details/Mercedes-Benz-190E-1989/SSE-AD-2906693/?Cr=51sdmvc=1 Not sure if this artistic or plain old lazy, ohh and yeah drugs have been consumed prior to deciding on what sort of money to ask for it. Maybe drugs, then taking a picture and then putting up the ad. Hendrik who could buy a lot of 80's Benzes for 12.5k ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com All posts are the result of individual contributors and as such, those individuals are responsible for the content of the post. The list owner has no control over the content of the messages of each contributor.
[MBZ] Seems a bit dodgy
Ad say it's a 300 but the boot badge says 560SEL, plus they are nuts on the price, given the condition and mileage http://www.gumtree.com.au/s-ad/macleod/cars-vans-utes/mercedes-1991-/1054165544 Hendrik who will not be buying that ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com All posts are the result of individual contributors and as such, those individuals are responsible for the content of the post. The list owner has no control over the content of the messages of each contributor.
Re: [MBZ] OT: Sacrilege point
I think you lot are missing the point somewhat, the leaf et al are aimed more at the short commute market, which is more typical of Europe, Japan and inner suburbia I suppose. Also Australia has bugger all oil but loads of coal, so on the basis of sustainability it would make sense to have EVs in Oz and we do have variance in commuter times but the issue still persists that upfront costs are too high. My take is that cashed up folks with an environmental consensuses are they target demographics for these things. Hendrik who is sending this message on a computer powered by mostly coal On 17/08/14 01:04, Dan Penoff via Mercedes wrote: That's the one thing I think I would find an EV to be a PITA for. While I rarely stop on the way home for anything, if I need to I need to, and it would be really inconvenient to have to go home and swap cars just because I wouldn't have the range to make a side trip. Dan On Aug 16, 2014, at 11:06 AM, dseretakis--- via Mercedes mercedes@okiebenz.com wrote: The problem is that then your existence becomes regimented. Suppose you decide on your commute back that you need to stop by place X or some urgent matter comes up and you need to drive to place Y? You have to drive home and swap cars. Majorly inconvenient if you ask me. Until an electric car can be developed with a real range I don't have any interest in buying one. ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com All posts are the result of individual contributors and as such, those individuals are responsible for the content of the post. The list owner has no control over the content of the messages of each contributor.
[MBZ] OT Yeah I know I am not supposed to laugh but.......
https://www.facebook.com/photo.php?v=477477494156fref=nf Hendrik who only trawls facebook for the funny stuff ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com All posts are the result of individual contributors and as such, those individuals are responsible for the content of the post. The list owner has no control over the content of the messages of each contributor.
Re: [MBZ] Review for the high revving 3.5
Huuh? You mean 80mph? That's about 128kmh, I think most cars (apart from the latest ones with 500 gears in the box) would do round about 4k at 128kmh. Speaking like a general, cars are designed to be efficient round about 90-100kmh, given that is the usual cruising speed in most parts of the world. There was chatter a while back that the greens in Germany wanted to impose speed restrictions on the autobahn to save the planet, not sure what became of that, perhaps the greens got an kicking in the next election. Germans tend to be a bit funny if people want to mess with their right to put the pedal to the metal. Hendrik whose TE does about 4k at 128 On 16/08/14 00:05, Andrew Strasfogel wrote: My only complaint was that it turned 4000 RPM at 80. On Thu, Aug 14, 2014 at 11:34 PM, Peter Frederick via Mercedes mercedes@okiebenz.com mailto:mercedes@okiebenz.com wrote: Yup, the 3.5L is the stroker version -- stroke is shorter than the bore is wide. Turns 6200 rpm, believe it or not, and produces prodigious horsepower at high rpm. Sort of a dog from standstill, though, that's why Benz switched to the 4.5L in later years -- more grunt off the line. Vastly better car to drive than a '68 anything made in the USA. Peter ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com All posts are the result of individual contributors and as such, those individuals are responsible for the content of the post. The list owner has no control over the content of the messages of each contributor.
Re: [MBZ] Review for the high revving American 3.5
You meant to say way too fast for the skill of the average American driver, did you not? Hendrik who needs no thanks for this little correction but donations will be accepted BTW it seems that the addressing is gone stupid, last couple of my dribbly list messages have only been addressed to the original poster and not the whole list, well I corrected that manually, just so everyone can be amazed at my deep insights On 16/08/14 10:27, Peter Frederick wrote: Snip This is why it got such terrible milage -- with normal gearing and more low end on the cams it would have gotten 25 mpg and gone crazy fast. Way too fast for the brakes and handling anyway. Peter ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com All posts are the result of individual contributors and as such, those individuals are responsible for the content of the post. The list owner has no control over the content of the messages of each contributor.
Re: [MBZ] OT: Sacrilegious talk about white man magic
The issue is still upfront cost, essentially the leaf costs twice as much as a comparable sized car, which are pretty efficient these days, especially with an oil burner under the bonnet. For instance http://volkswagenaustralia.com.au/PassengerVehicleVariants/vehicle/up AU$15k for the 5 door with a 1 litre 55kw. Yes the reduced maintenance thingy has to be factored in (I would assume the leaf or other EVs would still need to be serviced now and then) battery will need replacement at some stage (I think Nissan have a program whereby you can pay a 100 bucks a month to essentially pay off your next battery, which has a warranty of 5 years). I did read some figure on the break even point of an EV and it's not that exciting, something like 8 to 10 years I think or 200k miles(?). Which is a problem, insofar that if you do lots of miles per day then you will need to somehow charge it or tow that trailer to make it there and back. However the break even figures would vary, for instance in a place where fuel is expensive but electricity is cheapish, the break even point would be lower. Hendrik who would like a pink up! On 15/08/14 06:34, Curt Raymond via Mercedes wrote: Aren't you the one that said you only commuted a mile or two a day? Most people only commute something like 10 miles round trip daily which makes the Leaf PERFECT for them. None of the downsides of a gas car, heat comes on faster (its electric) no worry about accelerated wear due to the engine never getting up to operating temp, reduced maintenance costs. How often do you really need to drive a long distance? Zip car would be a perfect compliment, especially for city dwellers. -Curt ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com All posts are the result of individual contributors and as such, those individuals are responsible for the content of the post. The list owner has no control over the content of the messages of each contributor.
Re: [MBZ] OT: Sacrilegious talk about white man magic
And that's the thing with a lot of folks, you have an old car that is essentially paid off, is not too bad on fuel relatively speaking. I can't see the sense in buying a EV in your situation, as you may well never break even, unless fuel goes through the roof and perhaps the gobbermenters come along with some cash incentives. Hendrik who also hard on his vehicles with lots of short trips On 15/08/14 06:48, Randy Bennell via Mercedes wrote: Yes, we have been down this road before justifying my truck etc. The same old problem rears its ugly head. I do not have enough parking spots to park any more more vehicles and I don't think paying another $1K a year to nsure another vehicle plus additional upkeep really makes it worth it for me to have a vehicle purely for my short commute between office and home. It may be hard on it but I have been using my 300D most every day this summer for the short trips around town. If I am going to keep it, then it needs to be used too. The truck goes to the lake a couple of times each month over the summer and to North Dakota about once each month and apart from that, essentially sits waiting for winter when the car will be stored and the snow will justify 4 WD. Don't get me wrong, I would love to have some more vehicles but a Leaf would not be high on the list. I would like a newer Mercedes but don't need one. Randy ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com All posts are the result of individual contributors and as such, those individuals are responsible for the content of the post. The list owner has no control over the content of the messages of each contributor.
Re: [MBZ] Review for the 3.5
Yeah I think it's an over square engine and like most Euro designed engines, loves to rev and is designed for sustained high speed operation. On a related note it's been 40 years since https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=iukUMRlaBBE Hendrik who is 5 years older than that song On 15/08/14 10:34, Mountain Man via Mercedes wrote: Andrew wrote: The 4 speed automatic transmission in my 1969 (VIN #47) 280SE 3.5... I always lusted for that car after hearing Stu Ritter talk about the 3.5 engine - is it called over-square? What year did your 18 year ownership end? mao ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com All posts are the result of individual contributors and as such, those individuals are responsible for the content of the post. The list owner has no control over the content of the messages of each contributor.
Re: [MBZ] OT: Sacrilegious talk about white man magic
Oooh, very clever, get the boss to pay for your fuel/electricity. I see some places in Euroland have charging stations, how does that work? Are they free or do drop a coin in them or swipe the credit card? A quick look shows that the leaf is rated at something like 99mpg under the rating system. I think in places where electricity is pretty cheap, they will become more popular as people overcome their fears and such. Also the tech should get better, such as being able to use a standard power cord to charge the beasty. Another question is whether auto makers can make 'traditional' cars more fuel efficient? What will the price of fuel be in ten years or even in a couple of years if those crazies in the middle east get crazier? There was work/trials being done to transfer electricity without wires, enabling EVs to recharge whilst stopped at traffic lights, not sure if that will pan out in the short term? Hendrik who would be happy enough to drive an electric car, no more oil changes On 12/08/14 02:36, Curt Raymond via Mercedes wrote: At the Nissan dealership to drive pickups yesterday I talked him into letting us drive the Nissan Leaf electric car. I know you old bastards all hate anything new and different but you need to go out and try one. Yes its small but the seating area is about the same as my Jetta. No its not tinny or cheap feeling. Yes its VERY quiet. Its not slow, about the same as my Jetta. 100 mile rated range, the kid at the dealership has one and says 80 is more likely. I enjoyed watching the range meter count up while coasting. We went 6 miles on 3 miles of capacity. If I could get my employer to put in a charging station I'd seriously consider one... -Curt ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com All posts are the result of individual contributors and as such, those individuals are responsible for the content of the post. The list owner has no control over the content of the messages of each contributor.
Re: [MBZ] OT: Sacrilegious talk about white man magic
According to this http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Nissan_Leaf stop go really eats into the range, probably to do with using climate control and the physics of getting a stationary object moving. Not sure if the trailer idea would be suitable for everyone, some people are not comfortable towing a trailer, however the concept is good insofar that if you build a proper camping trailer with fridge and 240v power and hook it up to a EV 4x4. Yes the lack of oil threads will be a problem but would they not still use grease in some bearings, M1 grease? Perhaps we'll have to have battery threads? Hendrik who is controlled with electricity On 14/08/14 05:00, Archer75--- via Mercedes wrote: That might give her the extra charge she would need to get home. IIRC one of their problems was that Nissan advertised a range of 100 miles, but under normal conditions it only gets 70 miles. That made it close, but they could still make the round trip in bus lanes. Gerry On 8/13/2014 12:46 PM, Curt Raymond via Mercedes wrote: Depending on how much extra capacity she needs a small generator might make sense. I've got a 1200w 2 stroke generator that will run 8 hours at 50% load with 1 gallon of gas. It wouldn't make a huge difference but if she only needed a little more... Sounds like her commute was iffy for the car and they're running the AC hard. Stop and go traffic shouldn't hurt the range of an EV anywhere near what it does to a gas car. -Curt ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com All posts are the result of individual contributors and as such, those individuals are responsible for the content of the post. The list owner has no control over the content of the messages of each contributor.
Re: [MBZ] OT: Sacrilegious talk about white man magic
Yes to everything, no is a negative word that should be banned, ooopps starting to soound like mao. Seriously though, could be this iffy thing where the reply to goes to the original author and the list, I try to delete the author addy when I remember. Hendrik who sometimes forgets...ahhhm..you know...ahh forget it On 14/08/14 09:46, Craig via Mercedes wrote: On Wed, 13 Aug 2014 15:05:20 -0700 curtludwig--- via Mercedes mercedes@okiebenz.com wrote: Yes. Yes, what? ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com All posts are the result of individual contributors and as such, those individuals are responsible for the content of the post. The list owner has no control over the content of the messages of each contributor.
[MBZ] Review for the 3.5
http://www.caranddriver.com/reviews/mercedes-benz-280se-35-road-test-review Typical yanks, if it ain't 832 cubic inches and getting half a mile to the gallon, we ain't interested. Hendrik who don't have a 3.5 ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com All posts are the result of individual contributors and as such, those individuals are responsible for the content of the post. The list owner has no control over the content of the messages of each contributor.
[MBZ] If it is too good too be true.........
http://www.ebay.com.au/itm/Mercedes-Benz-1958-190SL-/291216881796?pt=AU_Carshash=item43cde0f884_uhb=1 Smells fishy to me and those photos ain't from around here. Hendrik who should ring up and book a test drive ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com All posts are the result of individual contributors and as such, those individuals are responsible for the content of the post. The list owner has no control over the content of the messages of each contributor.
Re: [MBZ] Nice W108 Rolling Chassis
You no read Ned's fun comparison? In case you missed it: I recently came across an enthusiast's article about the 1970 Mercedes 300SEL 6.3. The numbers in the article sounded really familiar. They were very close to the numbers of my 2006 E320 CDI. So I looked specs of both cars and made this table: Year ~1970~2006 Model 300SEL 6.3 E320 CDI Curb wt4035 lb3835 lb Wheel Base 112.8 in 112.4 in Length 196.9 in 189.7 in Width 71.3 in 71.3 in Height 57.9 in 57.0 in Engine 6.3 liter SI3.2 liter CI Type DOHC V8 DOHC I6 Turbo Fuel Gasoline Diesel Power 250 hp201 hp Torque 369 lb-ft 369 lb-ft Transmission4–spd auto5-spd auto 0 to 60 6.5 sec 6.6 sec ¼ mile 15.1 sec 15.3 sec Top Speed 137 mph 130 mph Fuel Mileage ~ 15.2 mpg 27 city / 37 hwy mpg Hwy Range 410 mi on 27 gal740 mi on 20 gal Base Price $14,500$51,050 On 05/08/14 22:53, LarryT via Mercedes wrote: someone should pick it up and save it! I wonder if a 5 cyl or V6 Turbo diesel would have enough power to make it practical? Then again, a modern Turbo diesel probably puts out as many HP as that 6 cyl 2.8L Gas engine, right? Love those W108s - Larry ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com All posts are the result of individual contributors and as such, those individuals are responsible for the content of the post. The list owner has no control over the content of the messages of each contributor.
Re: [MBZ] How screwed am I?
Or SLS fluid. Hendrik who has a dripping tranny On 06/08/14 12:46, Andrew Strasfogel via Mercedes wrote: If it's clear it is either brake fluid or MB antifreeze. On Tue, Aug 5, 2014 at 10:44 PM, Jim Cathey via Mercedes mercedes@okiebenz.com wrote: I noticed a long wet slick. The fluid is clear and a bit slick. Taste? Coolant doesn't taste like oil. -- Jim ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com All posts are the result of individual contributors and as such, those individuals are responsible for the content of the post. The list owner has no control over the content of the messages of each contributor.
Re: [MBZ] Please back slowly away from the crack pipe
My first thought was that it is low mileage and could be in pristine condition but then I read the part about rear damage and thus yeah asking price is a tad optimistic. Hendrik who should get back to bottling the homebrew On 04/08/14 12:39, Kaleb C. Striplin via Mercedes wrote: Maybe Sent from my iPhone On Aug 3, 2014, at 9:44 PM, Andrew Strasfogel via Mercedes mercedes@okiebenz.com wrote: I am guessing maybe $1500 on a rainy day. On Sun, Aug 3, 2014 at 10:27 PM, Dwight Giles via Mercedes mercedes@okiebenz.com wrote: What is it worth? On Aug 3, 2014 10:23 PM, Kaleb C. Striplin via Mercedes mercedes@okiebenz.com wrote: 1987 Mercedes 300e http://tulsa.craigslist.org/cto/4601429094.html ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com All posts are the result of individual contributors and as such, those individuals are responsible for the content of the post. The list owner has no control over the content of the messages of each contributor.
Re: [MBZ] OT - USAF SAC tale - Poached Eggs Benedict
So did the general gets his eggs Benedict in the end? Hendrik who had some salmon eggs Benedict the other dayyum yum On 05/08/14 01:19, WILTON via Mercedes wrote: POACHED EGGS By Wilton Strickland Early one morning while I was the wing Chief of Bombing and Navigation Division, about 1980, I entered the SAC alert facility at Seymour Johnson Air Force Base, NC, to brief B-52 air crewmen on some aspect of a pending operation. I noticed a small group of the men I was to brief standing in the hall laughing. I walked up and asked, Hi, guys, what's up? They told me that, when one of our senior generals, visiting from a higher headquarters, had gone through the breakfast line a little while before I arrived, the cook on the serving line asked the general, What'll you have, suh? The General replied, I'd like a poached egg, please. The young cook immediately poured two eggs from a small bowl of broken eggs onto the griddle and began to stir them around with his spatula. The surprised general said to the cook, But I'd like a poached egg, please. The cook replied, as he continued to scramble, Yassuh, das de way we poaches 'em. That afternoon, special cooking classes were held in the alert facility kitchen. ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com All posts are the result of individual contributors and as such, those individuals are responsible for the content of the post. The list owner has no control over the content of the messages of each contributor.
Re: [MBZ] Nice W108 Rolling Chassis
What?? Nobody has piped up with the OM conversion? You lot are getting sloppy. Hendrik who really really needs to get off the computer On 05/08/14 04:28, Andrew Strasfogel via Mercedes wrote: That is a steal. Lots of good drive trains lying around. On Mon, Aug 4, 2014 at 2:47 PM, Dan Penoff via Mercedes mercedes@okiebenz.com wrote: Just waiting for that small block Chebby: http://www.benzworld.org/forums/sale-wanted-trade-giveaway/2102545-fs-1969-280se-w108.html#post9687825 Dan ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com All posts are the result of individual contributors and as such, those individuals are responsible for the content of the post. The list owner has no control over the content of the messages of each contributor.
Re: [MBZ] Number 4 4 sale
Look closer. Hendrik who has the beer googles on On 31/07/14 20:27, Dan Penoff via Mercedes wrote: Nice. Reminds me of my former 1962 300SE. On Jul 30, 2014, at 11:19 PM, Hendrik and Fay heni...@gmail.com wrote: http://starmotorsny.com/1964-300se/ Hendrik whose Benz is not quite that black ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com All posts are the result of individual contributors and as such, those individuals are responsible for the content of the post. The list owner has no control over the content of the messages of each contributor.
Re: [MBZ] Nice W111 green cabriolet on ebay
Huh? I have seen plenty of old stuff go for way beyond that. However they where real rare and exotic cars. Hendrik who looked at a chop job cab a while back On 01/08/14 01:39, Randy Bennell via Mercedes wrote: No used car, no matter how nice, is worth $400K. ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com All posts are the result of individual contributors and as such, those individuals are responsible for the content of the post. The list owner has no control over the content of the messages of each contributor.
Re: [MBZ] Horse power vs. torque vs nuts
It's horses for courses, if you're likely to tow a lot and load the truck up then yeah a bigger more torquey engine would be the go but to add some perspective, modern Merc V6 engines produce more horsepower than the Euro version M100 but not as much torque. However if you do the occasional tow and load er up now and then, a smaller more efficient engine would be alright. Guess it also comes down to which is the better engine, no point cheaping out with the V6 if the V8 is a more reliable engine. How much extra do they want for a manly Diesel version, you could put vertical stacks on it and some air horns and hang out at truck stops. Oooh don't forget the balls out the back http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Truck_nuts Hendrik who has a wimpy 4 banger ute, which needs a good tune up On 30/07/14 14:10, Fmiser via Mercedes wrote: OK Don wrote: IIRC, the V8 has more torque, which is what a truck needs. Fmiser wrote: Well, no. Not really. But sort of. Jim wrote: It's a good first approximation. Torque maps to acceleration, whereas horsepower maps to top speed. A 200HP 400#' engine will likely be _far_ more drivable than a 300HP 200#' engine, assuming equivalence in other broad parameters. (RPM range, reasonable number of gears, etc.) The physics principles say no - horsepower is horsepower. But - the perception of the person controlling the engine speed says Physics - go jump in a lake!. I suspect your definition of drivable is probably similar to mine - if high RPM (with high noise and high fuel use) is necessary to access the torque then it is less pleasant to drive. Thus if your 200 HP engine required high RPM to get it's 400 lbs-ft of torque but the 300 HP engine had it's 200 lbs-ft available from a low RPM I think we would consider the 300 HP more drivable. (I realize that with most modern internal combustion engines the scenario I just mentioned is unlikely). So with a suitable transmission, and a willingness to put the engine in the right RPM range, the 300 HP engine will out accelerate the 200 HP. Probably. Though torque curves, transmission ratios, RPM limits, etc. really muddle things. -- Philip ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com All posts are the result of individual contributors and as such, those individuals are responsible for the content of the post. The list owner has no control over the content of the messages of each contributor.
[MBZ] Oz Merc truck
http://th02.deviantart.net/fs70/PRE/f/2013/338/b/5/mad_max_4_fury_road_mercedes_benz_tanker_1_by_maltian-d6wqe0j.jpg Hendrik who has been to Silverton ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com All posts are the result of individual contributors and as such, those individuals are responsible for the content of the post. The list owner has no control over the content of the messages of each contributor.
[MBZ] Number 4 4 sale
http://starmotorsny.com/1964-300se/ Hendrik whose Benz is not quite that black ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com All posts are the result of individual contributors and as such, those individuals are responsible for the content of the post. The list owner has no control over the content of the messages of each contributor.
Re: [MBZ] test e0azyhep
According to Plato: Those who seek power are not worthy of that power. http://www.quotesdaddy.com/quote/946661/plato/those-who-seek-power-are-not-worthy-of-that-power Hendrik who a couple of years ago could not spell moderater and now is one On 30/07/14 04:59, OK Don via Mercedes wrote: Hmmm - you can't even spell Kaleb? (or trim your posts) On Tue, Jul 29, 2014 at 8:58 AM, Gary Hurst via Mercedes mercedes@okiebenz.com wrote: i'm confident i can do it better than kleb does ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com All posts are the result of individual contributors and as such, those individuals are responsible for the content of the post. The list owner has no control over the content of the messages of each contributor.
Re: [MBZ] Today's cheap home brew bottle Find
Hmmnh, I must be a bit of a pisshead, most of my bottles are 750ml which is about 25 fl oz. Standard stubbie size is 375ml, Coppers still sell decent 750ml bottles for homebrewing, you have to be careful as some bottles are not meant to be reused. https://www.danmurphys.com.au/product/DM_75482/coopers-pale-ale-750ml BTW this is the stuff I usually drink https://www.danmurphys.com.au/product/DM_916901/oettinger-pils-cans-500ml is better if poured into a glass I am on the lookout for some 2 litre growlers http://www.northernbrewer.com/shop/2-liter-growler-romantic-handle.html they come up now and again in bottle shops, particularly towards Christmas time. Hendrik who can't have a drink yet On 30/07/14 10:26, Dwight Giles via Mercedes wrote: We have some 22 oz bombers here from new microbreweries. On Jul 29, 2014 8:31 PM, Peter Frederick via Mercedes mercedes@okiebenz.com wrote: Lol, a bomber (besides Wilton) is a 20 oz bottle. More than I can drink at a sitting these days, but my younger friends love them. Peter ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com All posts are the result of individual contributors and as such, those individuals are responsible for the content of the post. The list owner has no control over the content of the messages of each contributor.
Re: [MBZ] Today's cheap home brew Find
Yeah you do save money in the long run, sometimes you can find compete kits second hand, being sold by someone who either got the kit as an unwanted present or did a couple of brews and did not like the taste because they don't know what they are doing. Retail price on a Coopers kit is 80-90 AUD and you get one can and converter with it. Everything there to get you started but the Coopers can is not grade 1 gear. That will brew 22 litres. The cheapest half decent beer you can buy here is about 40 AUD for 12 litres. So essentially the first brew is a break even proposition. Then you go and buy a decent can and converter, which will be round about 30 bucks, you can go real cheap in the supermarket and use sugar but the result will be not so good. I work on about AU$1 per 750ml bottle, that works out at 12 bucks a carton (24 stubbies) which is about a third of the cost of store bought beer. As said if you really cheap out you can get the price per 750 down to 60 cents or so but the stuff is ordinary. Sure there are other bits that make life easier, such as bottle draining tree, capper, heaters, etc but in the long term you will save money and quality ingredients will make a pretty good beer. Bottles are another expense, I have round about 150 or so glass bottles. You can get PET ones but they are not suitable for long term storage. There is also the kegging option but the draw back there is start up cost and the on going cost of CO2 gas, which has gotten pricey. You also need a dedicated space for your 'brewery' the vats need to be in the 18-24C range and the bottles are best stored between 13-20C. Brewing in the house is not so good, as the missus will complain about the smell. Hendrik Who is off today to get some more ingredients, might make a ginger beer, another brown ale and a lager (I have three vats). I like to mix the brown ale and lager together to get a lagery ale. On 28/07/14 04:08, OK Don via Mercedes wrote: Do you actually save money, or just do it because you are more independent and like your own better? Last time I looked, I would have to brew a LOT of beer to break even with the set-up costs and kits. On Sun, Jul 27, 2014 at 12:03 PM, Rich Thomas via Mercedes mercedes@okiebenz.com wrote: I will be saving some money this afternoon then when I brew up another batch, and crack one of my latest I bottled 2 weeks ago, a hoppy brown ale. --R -- OK Don ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com All posts are the result of individual contributors and as such, those individuals are responsible for the content of the post. The list owner has no control over the content of the messages of each contributor.
Re: [MBZ] Today's CL Finderer
Pretty sure it's the crappy 722.5 box, essentially a 722.4 with electronic overdrive but not as robust as the 722.4 http://www.peachparts.com/shopforum/tech-help/6719-1995-s320-transmission-problem.html however for that sort of money you can't go too far wrong, Klebby will probably give you 500 for it, if all else fails. Hendrik who has a wonky 190E to fix On 27/07/14 12:21, Andrew Strasfogel via Mercedes wrote: Nice looking car, and less than 3 percent of the sticker price. Call Potomac German Auto to find out the price of a good used transmission. On Sat, Jul 26, 2014 at 10:00 PM, Dan Penoff via Mercedes mercedes@okiebenz.com wrote: I may go look at this tomorrow - it's not too far from me and the seller says the problem is that It won't shift past 3 u have to play with the gas peddle for it to kick into gear. http://tampa.craigslist.org/hil/cto/453306.html I'm wondering if this is a conductor plate? It's a 722 tranny but I'm not sure if it's a 722.6 Anyone know? Things to look for? Dan ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com All posts are the result of individual contributors and as such, those individuals are responsible for the content of the post. The list owner has no control over the content of the messages of each contributor.
Re: [MBZ] Today's cheap S class CL Find
Actually if you take Oz pricing it's less than 1%. Hendrik who may be able to afford a 140 in a few years time with all the money saved by home brewing On 27/07/14 12:21, Andrew Strasfogel via Mercedes wrote: Nice looking car, and less than 3 percent of the sticker price. Call Potomac German Auto to find out the price of a good used transmission. ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com All posts are the result of individual contributors and as such, those individuals are responsible for the content of the post. The list owner has no control over the content of the messages of each contributor.
Re: [MBZ] K'Leb needs to bring a trailer
Is that a pink one next to the S123? Hendrik who has never owned a pink car On 10/07/14 04:34, clay wrote: http://atlanta.craigslist.org/nat/ptd/4555466680.html The green car is really pretty clay ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com All posts are the result of individual contributors and as such, those individuals are responsible for the content of the post. The list owner has no control over the content of the messages of each contributor.
Re: [MBZ] More important things than Re: Whiskers - was: Springy compressor
Well that calls for a minute silence to remember the fallen. Hendrik who has had a couple of blow outs in the past On 10/07/14 04:16, clay wrote: I just cleaned up a carbonation explosion. Mead was a bit too happy and took out three bottles. Decanted the rest and am allowing it to calm down in the carboy for a few weeks. Shrapnel was confined to the wooden storage case. I am collecting fresh cherries for a lambic at the moment. clay ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com All posts are the result of individual contributors and as such, those individuals are responsible for the content of the post. The list owner has no control over the content of the messages of each contributor.
Re: [MBZ] Whiskers - was: Springy compressor
http://hughmacleod.com/?p=888 Hendrik who is off to Queensland for a few days On 10/07/14 02:06, Dan Penoff wrote: Sort of like the a World Cup game - lost by a Brazilian. Dan ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com All posts are the result of individual contributors and as such, those individuals are responsible for the content of the post. The list owner has no control over the content of the messages of each contributor.
Re: [MBZ] Whiskers - was: Springy compressor
Yeah that's the PG version of measuring https://www.macquariedictionary.com.au/resources/aus/word/map/search/word/bee's%20whisker/Adelaide%20Region/ https://www.macquariedictionary.com.au/resources/aus/word/map/search/word/bee%27s%20whisker/Adelaide%20Region/ Hendrik who bottled up his homebrew yesterday, not quite 99 bottles of beer on the wall, closer to 93 On 09/07/14 03:12, Fmiser wrote: Hendrik wrote: ... is too small by a bees whisker... Huh! I never knew that bees even _had_ whiskers! It's a good day when I get to learn something. *smiles* ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com All posts are the result of individual contributors and as such, those individuals are responsible for the content of the post. The list owner has no control over the content of the messages of each contributor.
Re: [MBZ] W124 Lower Engine cover
I actually have the short version on my 89 300TE, not sure why? It has a cut out for the sump, so the plug can be removed with shield in place and stops just before the cross member I use to lift the front of the car. Hendrik who had the cover off yesterday to turn the motor to line up the TC drain plug On 09/07/14 08:33, Dan Penoff wrote: You can find an aftermarket one for less than that, I'll bet. I got the rear cover for my W140 from an online supplier and it was $20. Definitely not OE, but it fits and the holes line up. Can't ask for much more. Looks like the diesel W124 had two belly pans. Can anyone confirm this? Looking in the EPC I see a 124 520 95 23 and a 124 520 31 24. Dan ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com All posts are the result of individual contributors and as such, those individuals are responsible for the content of the post. The list owner has no control over the content of the messages of each contributor.
Re: [MBZ] Fwd: Springy compressor
Yeah looks like mine, which I have had for a while and works pretty well, except that the hole in the 123 is too small by a bees whisker, if I had a lathe I would have been tempted to take a smidgen off the compressor to make it fit betterer. My guess is that the cheap one is reveres engineered? Hendrik who is changing the ATF in the Benz at the moment On 07/07/14 21:52, Dan Penoff wrote: This is the spring compressor I was offered. Is it the cheap import one? Dan ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com All posts are the result of individual contributors and as such, those individuals are responsible for the content of the post. The list owner has no control over the content of the messages of each contributor.
Re: [MBZ] Mercedes/Cyberdyne Truck
Not sure if it is feasible to fully automate a truck, insofar that it can drive itself from depot to depot. What I saw there was a truck on a multi lane highway, which is a lot different from driving around town or a single lane highway. What happens if the system crashes? I would think you still need a driver to sit behind the wheel until such time as the system is 100% perfect and able to cope with whatever situation arises. Daimler have been messing with this for a while and their driverless car looks mucho better than the google thing http://www.wimp.com/driverlesscar/ Hendrik who still does it old school manual style On 07/07/14 08:09, Meade Dillon wrote: In my opinion, a really smart move by Mercedes, if they can be first to market. The companies which employ truck drivers may leap at the chance to reduce the number of truck drivers they employ. Driver-less cars may take awhile to catch on, especially if they cost a premium over a normal car; who wants to pay that premium for their personal car? Shipping companies, given the choice between that premium and the cost of employing a driver, will probably pay the premium and automate. Max Dillon, Charleston SC On Jul 6, 2014 12:06 PM, Rich Thomas richthomas79td...@constructivity.net wrote: http://gizmodo.com/daimlers-self-driving-truck-isnt-good- for-nervous-highw-1600622542/all --R ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com All posts are the result of individual contributors and as such, those individuals are responsible for the content of the post. The list owner has no control over the content of the messages of each contributor.
Re: [MBZ] Mercedes/Cyberdyne Truck
I think Volvo is working on such a system, however the fact remains that the system must be able to cope with things like side winds, blow outs, load shifting, fires, etc Hendrik who hasn't had a blow out for a long time On 07/07/14 11:45, Meade Dillon wrote: An interim step may be a convoy of semi-autonomous drone trucks, guided by a single human in the lead truck or maybe a two-man team. Max Dillon, Charleston SC ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com All posts are the result of individual contributors and as such, those individuals are responsible for the content of the post. The list owner has no control over the content of the messages of each contributor.
Re: [MBZ] OT - Buying An Unlocked/Unsubsidized Cell Phone for cheap
Whatever you do, make sure you get a good case for the phone, the Samsung is fragile and expensive to repair. I got my son a 50 dollar otter box, which seems to be pretty good but beware of imitations. I read an article the other day that some company is planning to sell high spec androids for not a lot http://www.businessspectator.com.au/article/2014/5/22/technology/299-chinese-smartphone-could-change-everything I have a low end spec android phone for velly cheap plice, http://www.trustedreviews.com/huawei-ascend-g300_Mobile-Phone_review http://www.ebay.com.au/itm/like/281369238940?limghlpsr=truehlpv=2ops=trueviphx=1hlpht=truelpid=107 so if I bust it or lose it, I just buy another because warranty don't cover that stuff. It has a two year warranty and is on a dollar a day plan. I keep it in a cheap case (not a lot of case options for the G300) which has done a good job of protecting the phone. Had it now for six months without issues. Really depends on the needs of your offspring and his situation, unfortunately phones are a status symbol (hence the desire for the S5). How much you willing to spend? The S4 is still making pretty good money, the S3 is a bit cheaper and a pretty good spec phone. Also make sure you explain to your son that mobile data costs a fair bit, so if he is youtubing all day you may find a nasty bill in the mail. I have switched off roaming for our phones, so they only work with wifi, can be turned back on if an urgent need arises. There is also functions that allow you to set data limits, so when you reach the end of the free stuff, the phone disconnects automatically. Hendrik who is a dinosaur and does not do data roaming and such, I pay for the internet at home and not gonna pay for it when I am mobile On 06/07/14 09:12, Dan Penoff wrote: Youngest son wants/needs a new phone. While he would *like* to get a new Samsung Galaxy S5, he's not paying for it, so that's not going to happen. I'm trying to find a source for a new or refurb Galaxy S4 on Verizon (CDMA) that I can buy outright so I don't have to pay a subsidy to Verizon and/or renew a contract. Right now nearly all of our Verizon phones are off-contract, and I like it that way. I found some vendors selling new S4s on Amazon, but I haven't found any other sources unless they're used phones from private parties, something I would like to avoid. Suggestions? Thanks, Dan ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com All posts are the result of individual contributors and as such, those individuals are responsible for the content of the post. The list owner has no control over the content of the messages of each contributor.
Re: [MBZ] OT - Buying An Unlocked/Unsubsidized Cell Phone for cheap
Yeah I had a Sonim for a few years, which did the job but texting was pain. However now that I have a fancier phone, I am quite liking it, stuff like listening to music is way better and it has a pretty decent camera. Hendrik who now texts a lot faster and with beter speliing two On 06/07/14 13:52, Craig wrote: On Sun, 06 Jul 2014 13:34:32 +0930 Hendrik and Fay heni...@gmail.com wrote: Hendrik who is a dinosaur and does not do data roaming and such, I pay for the internet at home and not gonna pay for it when I am mobile I pay $108/year for a Nokia 2126 on Tracfone's service. It works just fine. Craig ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com All posts are the result of individual contributors and as such, those individuals are responsible for the content of the post. The list owner has no control over the content of the messages of each contributor.
[MBZ] OT care package on way
Apparently things are pretty tough over there https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CJoQOQHQ8oA let me know if you need more cups to drink snow with and yes I personally witnessed Americans eating their birds to survive. Hendrik who wishes you a happy fourth of July ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com All posts are the result of individual contributors and as such, those individuals are responsible for the content of the post. The list owner has no control over the content of the messages of each contributor.
[MBZ] brand spanking new 280CE
http://www.ebay.de/itm/Neuwagenprojekt-Mercedes-280-ce-Wagen-123-im-KDA-zu-versteigern-/291178275423?pt=Automobilehash=item43cb93e25f Hendrik who wonders why the dash got pimped ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com All posts are the result of individual contributors and as such, those individuals are responsible for the content of the post. The list owner has no control over the content of the messages of each contributor.
Re: [MBZ] OT:illegal Yellow jacket nest in the roof soffit
Depends on which species, the European wasps are not native to the US or Oz and as such are a pest/illegal immigrant. The reason they are there is that they find a nice hollow space and take up residence, kinda like squatters. End of the day if you're happy to coexist with nasty bite bite creatures, fine but some people don't like the idea. Like you said 'most creatures' but there are some that have no place, like the cane toad in parts of Oz, or rabbits or foxes in Oz. Hendrik who does not have cane toads where he lives On 30/06/14 10:24, Mountain Man wrote: Andrew wrote: A nest of yellow jackets has appeared near the back door, under the eaves through a small hole in the soffit. *Why* are the yellow jackets there? If we solve this issue, we might not need to explore war and eradication of a potentially pertinent element of the diversity in our planet? ...not meant entirely... but there is some sense in the usefulness of most creatures. i.e. they are out of place and you need to understand why they are out of place so you don't foster another hive. Anyone? mao ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com All posts are the result of individual contributors and as such, those individuals are responsible for the content of the post. The list owner has no control over the content of the messages of each contributor.
