Re: [MBZ] '85 300CD battery question
Woah, I literally, read this message, went on to the next one and then paused and said Was that the banned list? Then I came back to this message and realized we were talking about battery replacement. On THAT topic, I will also comment that I didn't think it was very difficult to change the battery in my 83' 300D... Levi On 8/31/07, Kaleb C. Striplin, work [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: 10 minutes? Takes me less than 2 minutes. --- Kaleb C. Striplin Cox Auto Trader 730 FSBO Supervisor - Original Message - From: Luther [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: Mercedes Discussion List mercedes@okiebenz.com Sent: Friday, August 31, 2007 12:09 AM Subject: Re: [MBZ] '85 300CD battery question WOW, I can RR a 123 battery in less than 10 mins. I much prefer the pull out drop in of the 126. Remove the air cleaner. Have new rubber air cleaner mounts handy if yours are bad. Luther On Thu, 30 Aug 2007 18:46:37 -0500, andrew strasfogel [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Pull off the long rubber strip on the edge beneath the front w/s - that will help. This is a tough job! It took the Mercedes Roadside tech 45 minutes to change the battery in her '85 300CD. I came out ahead in that deal (battery cost $137 installed, IIRC) -- Luther KB5QHUAlma, Ark '87 300SDL (272,xxx mi) head case '85 Ford F250 6.9 diesel (x58,xxx mi) '82 300CD (166 kmi) '82 300D (74 kmi) getting donor engine-sold '85 300D (280,176) parts car sans engine ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] Craigs list all over
There's more to it, there's something at the top of the page that says seeing homepages or some such thing with some further instructions. I didn't try too much to get past it... On 8/28/07, Rich Thomas [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I just tried the search, for some reason it does not go to the category in each city and spit out results, but if you put your keyword in the search for that city it does, individually. Maybe they don't have it sorted quite right or something. --R [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: So what is the benefit? All I can seem to make it do is bring up a bunch of homepages at once. I guess that's a bit better but I couldn't get it to search a whole list of areas and actually give me results. Am I doing it wrong? Mike http://www.crazedlist.org/ Someone was asking about this a week or two ago --R ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] OT Honda Timing Belt
I'm thinking it depends on what sort of auto experience you have. If you're used to dealing with Japanese cars, you should be used to dealing with timing belts. I've been well versed with them for about 12 years. You generally replace timing belts in the 60-100K mile range depending on the vehicle. If not, you can usually find good deals on cars with blown engines from people who didn't bother to replace them. I've done two in my wife's Subaru and I'm nearing time for the 4th in my Subee. Levi On 8/18/07, Zoltan Finks [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I will recommend that we get that belt replaced soon. This is really interesting to me though, as I wasn't aware, and I don't think the general public is aware, that these cars are something close to a time bomb in that they are very likely to just go belly up at a certain point. All I knew was that these Hondas were very reliable and would last a long time. But according to this info., they are reliable, with a very severe caveat. You would think that it would be better known that these cars will just quit at around 100k or whatever the designated mileage is. Brian On 8/18/07, Mitch Haley [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Redghost wrote: JUST REPLACE IT. Not worth the $400 to open it up and see if you can squeeze a few thousand more miles out. I had an acura that said to change the belt at 90k. It was not joking. I made it to 91,231 before the belt let loose and I was in it for $2500 to rebuild the top end. Valves slapped all over the place. Should have just gone in and paid my $400 for the belt right at 90k I would never let one go more than five years in an interference engine. Also would not exceed mfr's mileage recommendation. Still no guarantee, but if you replace the CRV's belt now you will be safe (unless it breaks on the way to the shop). A friend lost the belt on her '87 Escort at around 35k in 1988. She was not pleased, but at least it was a 1.9Lso all it cost her was a tow bill and $200. This car went about 150 miles a day on the freeway, with a 5 speed. She gave it to her little brother when she bought an Escort GT in '89, AFAIK it did not break the belt again so I'm guessing a defective belt. Mitch. ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] Speedo accuracy - GPS
My Mio 310x has them all on internal 1gb flash for about $200. On 8/17/07, Kaleb C. Striplin, work [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: The iWay has all the maps already installed on the internal 20 gig harddrive for all of north america. --- Kaleb C. Striplin Cox Auto Trader 730 PP Supervisor 918-746-1400 x305 - Original Message - From: BillR [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: 'Mercedes Discussion List' mercedes@okiebenz.com Sent: Friday, August 17, 2007 8:22 AM Subject: Re: [MBZ] Speedo accuracy - GPS That sort of thing can be a good option for small $. I picked up a small unit that plugged into both my laptop and my IPAQ [PCI slot?]. Using it with a map program on the laptop was quite easy and accurate. I have maps for my handheld that cover the entire country one county at a time, but they are not easy to use due to the small size of the display and the lack of features. BillR -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto: [EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Rich Thomas Sent: Friday, August 17, 2007 9:02 AM To: Mercedes Discussion List Subject: Re: [MBZ] Speedo accuracy Fry's has the DeLorme you plug into your laptop for $30 in today's flyer. Or outpost.com --R Fmiser wrote: It seems than at Thu, 16 Aug 2007 20:16:13 -0500, Wonko wrote: Want to loan me your GPS so I can check the accuracy of the Quantum? Loren thinks it is accurate, I think it reads 10 mph high. I am not joking -- I will pay postage both ways or bring it to the IowaQ. $60 buys a basic GPS new. --Philip ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] greasercar
Maybe there's someone on the street you don't like that you could give it to then? Or perhaps you'd like to invest and make it look just like new! (: Levi On 8/15/07, [EMAIL PROTECTED] [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: If I parked that thing on my street, the neighbors would be out front with torches and a rope. For me. RLE ** Get a sneak peek of the all-new AOL at http://discover.aol.com/memed/aolcom30tour ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] 83' 300D Greasecar for sale
No, the speakers and amp were put in by the PO. It didn't come with a radio though, so I found one down in the basement that fit in there, then just put in an rca jack switch to plug in my ipod. (: Curious though, what exactly did you see as far as speakers go? That's like the one thing I don't notice. (: Levi On 8/15/07, Wonko the Sane [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I'd say butt ugly except I don't want to insult my butt. Did ya do that custom speaker installation yourself or take it to a shop? :-) -- LT Don http://don.homelinux.net/~don/ Make a small loan, Make a big difference - Kiva.org ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] 83' 300D Greasecar for sale
No, I only sped up the sections on the road. The oil gauge is pretty much up to max immediately, and as I recall it was like that with regular oil when I first got the car. I believe after it warms up it will drop to around a bar at idle. Levi On 8/16/07, Zoltan Finks [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: One thing that I took note of is how fast your oil gauge pegged upon startup. I'm guessing that's going to be a feature of Mobil 1? Or were you already in fast-forward filming mode at that point? My oil gauges move up to around 1 bar after a couple seconds or so after startup, then stay there for around five seconds, then go ahead and move up to pegged. Brian On 8/15/07, Levi Smith [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Well, I guess it's about time to officially say that my car is for sale since I've still got a 97' Subaru to sell besides this and there's a *chance* I might be able to at least trade that one in and I'm planning on getting a Prius of some sort in less than 2 months. So... It's an 83' 300D with a Greasecar kit installed. (Start on diesel until it's warmed up, then switch to veggie, and switch back to diesel a minute before you shut it off.) Car is not pretty and the trunk is very oily. But it runs reliably. Starter is about a year old, exhaust is only a few months old, except that the flex piece broke off so it's a bit louder than stock though certainly not unbearable. Tires are mismatched and lousy(barely legal). I've got at least 2, if not 5 other tires that are at least decent that I would toss in. Keyless entry Vaccuum works other than not holding vacuum for more than a few minutes after shutoff. (and potentially the ACC vent). ACC works as well as I assume it should. Seems like it keeps more air on the windshield than it's supposed to, but it's never been a problem. AC is cool as usual(not COLD). It's fine on the highway, but if it's 90F out and you're sitting still, you're probably going to get warm. Cruise works AM/FM/Amp with ipod jack(or whatever you want to plug in) moonroof works windows work with the exception of a flaky left rear which I believe is some loose wires since it started acting up after I pushed it past a slight bit of resistance that I believe to be wires that were caught. tach is dead (though I've got a spare tach sending unit if you want to mess with it) odo is at the hold in the button to keep it rolling phase It's had Mobil 1 15w-50 for the last year or so that I've owned it. New battery this past winter Some rust spots popping up, but nothing structural yet. Hella Euro headlights with +50 bulbs. I've added electric fuel pumps for both the diesel and veg sides. I get about 1000 miles between veg filter changes. Which is around how often I refill with diesel. I'll include about 10 more veg filters for the car and a set of spare diesel filters I'm also including my filtering setup (heated barrel with jeans/pump/goldenrod filter) and about 5 more goldenrod filters Also including about 100 gallons of filtered wvo ready to go. If you want a veggie supplier in Addison, NY you can take over mine. Including a MB Service Manual CD, and a Haynes repair manual. Few spare parts like starters, alternator, head, egr valve, thermostat, speedo... think that's most of it. Can't say for sure if they're any good or not. I think the car has around 400K miles on it and the engine has about 300K on it. I've also got a spare set of wheels with Blizzaks on them that were only used for about a month this past winter. I think I'll try to sell those separately, but for the right price I might include them. Basically, the car doesn't look great, but it runs good and you can do a lot of driving for free. But it can be messy and time consuming to collect and filter the fuel and I'm tired of monkeying with it so I'm getting a Prius. I'm located near Corning, NY. I really haven't figured out what these are worth so I'm probably on crack but I'm going to start off asking for $3000, but please feel free to make any offers if you're interested. Pictures can be found here: http://www.flickr.com/photos/levigsmith/sets/72157601403895227 Video can be found here: http://www.veoh.com/videos/v957832fNWNF55B Which includes part of a drive. If you want to see the entire 13 minute trip around the block, that's here: http://www.veoh.com/videos/v9578674FHDJhSS Thanks, Levi ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED
Re: [MBZ] 83' 300D Greasecar for sale
Are you looking for just the Benz parts or the Greasecar parts? I'm still not at all sure what it's worth, but I see the greasecar kit is about $1K now, so I might potentially think about selling them separately... Though at this point, I think I'm getting an 01-03 Prius and if that's the case, my fallback is that it's worth about $1k in trade to a dealer who's got a wrecked Prius I could use for spare parts. Though I think he just wants the engine... But I'm still waiting for another couple weeks to see if I somehow managed to win a new one from over in Ithaca... Of course if that happens then I won't be as worried about how much I get out of the car... (: Levi On 8/15/07, [EMAIL PROTECTED] [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I'd be interested in it for a parts car for my TD but not at that kind of price..Let me know when it gets to parts car price or you want to sell parts. Or if you wanted to trade for something maybe we could work something out. Mike Well, I guess it's about time to officially say that my car is for sale since I've still got a 97' Subaru to sell besides this and there's a *chance* I might be able to at least trade that one in and I'm planning on getting a Prius of some sort in less than 2 months. So... It's an 83' 300D with a Greasecar kit installed. (Start on diesel until it's warmed up, then switch to veggie, and switch back to diesel a minute before you shut it off.) Car is not pretty and the trunk is very oily. But it runs reliably. Starter is about a year old, exhaust is only a few months old, except that the flex piece broke off so it's a bit louder than stock though certainly not unbearable. Tires are mismatched and lousy(barely legal). I've got at least 2, if not 5 other tires that are at least decent that I would toss in. Keyless entry Vaccuum works other than not holding vacuum for more than a few minutes after shutoff. (and potentially the ACC vent). ACC works as well as I assume it should. Seems like it keeps more air on the windshield than it's supposed to, but it's never been a problem. AC is cool as usual(not COLD). It's fine on the highway, but if it's 90F out and you're sitting still, you're probably going to get warm. Cruise works AM/FM/Amp with ipod jack(or whatever you want to plug in) moonroof works windows work with the exception of a flaky left rear which I believe is some loose wires since it started acting up after I pushed it past a slight bit of resistance that I believe to be wires that were caught. tach is dead (though I've got a spare tach sending unit if you want to mess with it) odo is at the hold in the button to keep it rolling phase It's had Mobil 1 15w-50 for the last year or so that I've owned it. New battery this past winter Some rust spots popping up, but nothing structural yet. Hella Euro headlights with +50 bulbs. I've added electric fuel pumps for both the diesel and veg sides. I get about 1000 miles between veg filter changes. Which is around how often I refill with diesel. I'll include about 10 more veg filters for the car and a set of spare diesel filters I'm also including my filtering setup (heated barrel with jeans/pump/goldenrod filter) and about 5 more goldenrod filters Also including about 100 gallons of filtered wvo ready to go. If you want a veggie supplier in Addison, NY you can take over mine. Including a MB Service Manual CD, and a Haynes repair manual. Few spare parts like starters, alternator, head, egr valve, thermostat, speedo... think that's most of it. Can't say for sure if they're any good or not. I think the car has around 400K miles on it and the engine has about 300K on it. I've also got a spare set of wheels with Blizzaks on them that were only used for about a month this past winter. I think I'll try to sell those separately, but for the right price I might include them. Basically, the car doesn't look great, but it runs good and you can do a lot of driving for free. But it can be messy and time consuming to collect and filter the fuel and I'm tired of monkeying with it so I'm getting a Prius. I'm located near Corning, NY. I really haven't figured out what these are worth so I'm probably on crack but I'm going to start off asking for $3000, but please feel free to make any offers if you're interested. Pictures can be found here: http://www.flickr.com/photos/levigsmith/sets/72157601403895227 Video can be found here: http://www.veoh.com/videos/v957832fNWNF55B Which includes part of a drive. If you want to see the entire 13 minute trip around the block, that's here: http://www.veoh.com/videos/v9578674FHDJhSS Thanks, Levi ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To
Re: [MBZ] 83' 300D Greasecar for sale
Hmm, no speakers there that I'm aware of... There are other things hanging around there though depending on what sides or whereabouts... (: On 8/16/07, Wonko the Sane [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I thought I saw a speaker hanging down from under the dash, by the console? Maybe it was my imagination. On 8/16/07, Levi Smith [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Curious though, what exactly did you see as far as speakers go? That's like the one thing I don't notice. (: -- LT Don http://don.homelinux.net/~don/ Make a small loan, Make a big difference - Kiva.org ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] 83' 300D Greasecar for sale
Well, in the Benz case the PO installed an amp, so I just put an RCA jack switch inline between the radio and the amp. Without an amp, the easiest options are cassette tape adapters or FM transmitters. It's been a while since I've done the tape deck, but I've had trouble finding any FM transmitters that sounded very decent at all. That's what I use when I have to, but it's not near as good. The FM modulators that plug in the antenna cable would definitely be better but more work... Levi On 8/16/07, Kevin Kraly [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: an rca jack switch to plug in my ipod. This is an issue with my Sprinter as well since it doesn't have an ipod jack. Are you referring to the type that hooks into the antenna cable for FM modulation? This would work in my situation although I may just swap the old deck for a better one that's also Ipod compatible. Kevin in Portland, OR 1983 300SD 267Kmi, Ursula 2006 Sprinter PV 870mi ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
[MBZ] 83' 300D Greasecar for sale
Well, I guess it's about time to officially say that my car is for sale since I've still got a 97' Subaru to sell besides this and there's a *chance* I might be able to at least trade that one in and I'm planning on getting a Prius of some sort in less than 2 months. So... It's an 83' 300D with a Greasecar kit installed. (Start on diesel until it's warmed up, then switch to veggie, and switch back to diesel a minute before you shut it off.) Car is not pretty and the trunk is very oily. But it runs reliably. Starter is about a year old, exhaust is only a few months old, except that the flex piece broke off so it's a bit louder than stock though certainly not unbearable. Tires are mismatched and lousy(barely legal). I've got at least 2, if not 5 other tires that are at least decent that I would toss in. Keyless entry Vaccuum works other than not holding vacuum for more than a few minutes after shutoff. (and potentially the ACC vent). ACC works as well as I assume it should. Seems like it keeps more air on the windshield than it's supposed to, but it's never been a problem. AC is cool as usual(not COLD). It's fine on the highway, but if it's 90F out and you're sitting still, you're probably going to get warm. Cruise works AM/FM/Amp with ipod jack(or whatever you want to plug in) moonroof works windows work with the exception of a flaky left rear which I believe is some loose wires since it started acting up after I pushed it past a slight bit of resistance that I believe to be wires that were caught. tach is dead (though I've got a spare tach sending unit if you want to mess with it) odo is at the hold in the button to keep it rolling phase It's had Mobil 1 15w-50 for the last year or so that I've owned it. New battery this past winter Some rust spots popping up, but nothing structural yet. Hella Euro headlights with +50 bulbs. I've added electric fuel pumps for both the diesel and veg sides. I get about 1000 miles between veg filter changes. Which is around how often I refill with diesel. I'll include about 10 more veg filters for the car and a set of spare diesel filters I'm also including my filtering setup (heated barrel with jeans/pump/goldenrod filter) and about 5 more goldenrod filters Also including about 100 gallons of filtered wvo ready to go. If you want a veggie supplier in Addison, NY you can take over mine. Including a MB Service Manual CD, and a Haynes repair manual. Few spare parts like starters, alternator, head, egr valve, thermostat, speedo... think that's most of it. Can't say for sure if they're any good or not. I think the car has around 400K miles on it and the engine has about 300K on it. I've also got a spare set of wheels with Blizzaks on them that were only used for about a month this past winter. I think I'll try to sell those separately, but for the right price I might include them. Basically, the car doesn't look great, but it runs good and you can do a lot of driving for free. But it can be messy and time consuming to collect and filter the fuel and I'm tired of monkeying with it so I'm getting a Prius. I'm located near Corning, NY. I really haven't figured out what these are worth so I'm probably on crack but I'm going to start off asking for $3000, but please feel free to make any offers if you're interested. Pictures can be found here: http://www.flickr.com/photos/levigsmith/sets/72157601403895227 Video can be found here: http://www.veoh.com/videos/v957832fNWNF55B Which includes part of a drive. If you want to see the entire 13 minute trip around the block, that's here: http://www.veoh.com/videos/v9578674FHDJhSS Thanks, Levi ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
[MBZ] Set of alloys with Blizzaks with 1 month of use from 83' 300D for sale?
I mentioned it in the other long e-mail, but thought I'd make this a separate one. Anyone interested in a set of Blizzaks with about 1 month of use on them on a set of alloys from an 83' 300D? I don't recall any problems with the wheels other than they might be dirty and I wouldn't swear that all 4 of them have center caps. Any chance they're worth like $400? Or would anyone be interested at a lower price? Still not sure if I'm selling them with the car or separate, but I'm leaning towards separate... Thanks, Levi ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] 83' 300D Greasecar for sale
Told ya! (: (though honestly I'm more surprised that the first response wasn't I'll give ya $50 for it or something like that) Levi (: On 8/15/07, Kaleb C. Striplin, work [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: man thats ugly --- Kaleb C. Striplin Cox Auto Trader 730 PP Supervisor - Original Message - From: Levi Smith [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: Mercedes Discussion List Mercedes@okiebenz.com; Diesel Mercedes [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Wednesday, August 15, 2007 10:20 AM Subject: [MBZ] 83' 300D Greasecar for sale Well, I guess it's about time to officially say that my car is for sale since I've still got a 97' Subaru to sell besides this and there's a *chance* I might be able to at least trade that one in and I'm planning on getting a Prius of some sort in less than 2 months. So... It's an 83' 300D with a Greasecar kit installed. (Start on diesel until it's warmed up, then switch to veggie, and switch back to diesel a minute before you shut it off.) Car is not pretty and the trunk is very oily. But it runs reliably. Starter is about a year old, exhaust is only a few months old, except that the flex piece broke off so it's a bit louder than stock though certainly not unbearable. Tires are mismatched and lousy(barely legal). I've got at least 2, if not 5 other tires that are at least decent that I would toss in. Keyless entry Vaccuum works other than not holding vacuum for more than a few minutes after shutoff. (and potentially the ACC vent). ACC works as well as I assume it should. Seems like it keeps more air on the windshield than it's supposed to, but it's never been a problem. AC is cool as usual(not COLD). It's fine on the highway, but if it's 90F out and you're sitting still, you're probably going to get warm. Cruise works AM/FM/Amp with ipod jack(or whatever you want to plug in) moonroof works windows work with the exception of a flaky left rear which I believe is some loose wires since it started acting up after I pushed it past a slight bit of resistance that I believe to be wires that were caught. tach is dead (though I've got a spare tach sending unit if you want to mess with it) odo is at the hold in the button to keep it rolling phase It's had Mobil 1 15w-50 for the last year or so that I've owned it. New battery this past winter Some rust spots popping up, but nothing structural yet. Hella Euro headlights with +50 bulbs. I've added electric fuel pumps for both the diesel and veg sides. I get about 1000 miles between veg filter changes. Which is around how often I refill with diesel. I'll include about 10 more veg filters for the car and a set of spare diesel filters I'm also including my filtering setup (heated barrel with jeans/pump/goldenrod filter) and about 5 more goldenrod filters Also including about 100 gallons of filtered wvo ready to go. If you want a veggie supplier in Addison, NY you can take over mine. Including a MB Service Manual CD, and a Haynes repair manual. Few spare parts like starters, alternator, head, egr valve, thermostat, speedo... think that's most of it. Can't say for sure if they're any good or not. I think the car has around 400K miles on it and the engine has about 300K on it. I've also got a spare set of wheels with Blizzaks on them that were only used for about a month this past winter. I think I'll try to sell those separately, but for the right price I might include them. Basically, the car doesn't look great, but it runs good and you can do a lot of driving for free. But it can be messy and time consuming to collect and filter the fuel and I'm tired of monkeying with it so I'm getting a Prius. I'm located near Corning, NY. I really haven't figured out what these are worth so I'm probably on crack but I'm going to start off asking for $3000, but please feel free to make any offers if you're interested. Pictures can be found here: http://www.flickr.com/photos/levigsmith/sets/72157601403895227 Video can be found here: http://www.veoh.com/videos/v957832fNWNF55B Which includes part of a drive. If you want to see the entire 13 minute trip around the block, that's here: http://www.veoh.com/videos/v9578674FHDJhSS Thanks, Levi ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new
Re: [MBZ] 83' 300D Greasecar for sale
Oh come on, it would only take about $3 of diesel to drive it to you. (assuming you could fit enough oil in the trunk). (: ACTUALLY... If you wanna see what that baby'll REALLY do, check out this video: http://www.veoh.com/videos/v958722BTrfEgX5 Levi On 8/15/07, Kaleb C. Striplin, work [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: you can pay me $50 to haul that thing off :) --- Kaleb C. Striplin Cox Auto Trader 730 PP Supervisor - Original Message - From: Levi Smith [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: Mercedes Discussion List mercedes@okiebenz.com Sent: Wednesday, August 15, 2007 11:09 AM Subject: Re: [MBZ] 83' 300D Greasecar for sale Told ya! (: (though honestly I'm more surprised that the first response wasn't I'll give ya $50 for it or something like that) Levi (: ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] Legality of towing unregistered car in NY?
Ahh, I do see an in-transit permit on nysdmv.com Hmm, I kinda think they might figure out that I've already registered the car before and not let that one fly... And I suppose if I have to pay $10, it's not THAT much worse to pay $46 or whatever just for the ease of dealing with it, especially for probably more than 30 days... Thanks for the info though! Levi On 8/2/07, [EMAIL PROTECTED] [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Go to the DMV, prove you have insurance and fill out the form for a 30 day temporary transit tag. Allows transporting to and from certain places as stated when you fill out the formYou might want to fib a little about what you intend to do with it.Costs a whoppin huge 10 bucks and the title doesn't even have to be in your name!! Mike Where/how can you get a paper tag for $10? I thought NY was a pain cause there was no such thing as a temp tag? Or is this something else? Levi On 8/2/07, [EMAIL PROTECTED] [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: If it will run and drive you can put insurance on it and buy a paper tag for 10 bucks. Mike Do you folks have repair plates? Around here the garages usually have a repair plate that can be used to transport a vehicle to the garage. The garage will usually lend you the plate in order to get the vehicle in. Some places also will sell you a one day permit to move a vehicle. I know you can get one here to move a vehicle to another province. Don't know if you can get one to move a vehicle within the province. Would probably have to have a current safety certificate to do that in any event. Another option is to get a tow truck. It will be cheaper in the long run than a ticket or an accident if you get caught or if things go wrong. I had a Jeep towed home for my younger son a month or so ago and and it cost $70 for a tow of 5 miles or so. I was tempted to tow it behind one of our trucks but also thought it would cost more than the tow to replace the back bumper on the truck if the Jeep happened to bump me. I have towed with just a rope. I towed a friend about 35 miles. He had a mid 80's full size Cadillac with an engine knock. He kept the motor running to provide power steering and brakes and I towed him with my old Chevy pickup. It was pretty smooth. You really want to be able to trust the other driver no matter whether you are in the tow vehicle or the towed vehicle. Also towed a Chevy pickup home from about 50 miles away on a 1/2 nylon rope behind a Ford pickup many years ago. No real problem. I drove the tow vehicle and my father steered the towed vehicle. I don't think he trusted me to not hit him from behind. I was pretty young then and he just instructed me to keep the speed down to about 40 mph and let him worry about not running into the back of me. It was pretty hilly country and we slowed a bit going up hills but there was not much traffic and we got home fine. Randy - in Winnipeg -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Behalf Of Levi Smith Sent: Thursday, August 02, 2007 10:43 AM To: Mercedes Discussion List Subject: [MBZ] Legality of towing unregistered car in NY? Anyone happen to know what the legality is of towing an unregistered car in NY? I've got a Subaru that needs fixing and I think I may let someone else do it, but it's not registered... I'm thinking I would tow it down and then maybe just attach the strap and mock-tow it back(assuming it runs then), but it wouldn't have plates either way... And it does go right past a police station... Anyone know if that's legal or not? I was thinking it was... But then I couldn't quite see how it could be if you can't pull a trailer without plates... Thanks, Levi ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http
Re: [MBZ] Legality of towing unregistered car in NY?
Hmm... I haven't seen many of those here at the moment, though there are some over at my parents house, they drive a John Deere Gator back and forth to the farm(they do live in the country). I'm guessing there may be a few more down in Houston than up here in NY... On 8/3/07, Rich Thomas [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Just pretend you are a guest worker and you won't need insurance, a drivers license, registration, or ownership. Works here in Houston quite well. And you won't even need to know how to drive either, just go. --R ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
[MBZ] Legality of towing unregistered car in NY?
Anyone happen to know what the legality is of towing an unregistered car in NY? I've got a Subaru that needs fixing and I think I may let someone else do it, but it's not registered... I'm thinking I would tow it down and then maybe just attach the strap and mock-tow it back(assuming it runs then), but it wouldn't have plates either way... And it does go right past a police station... Anyone know if that's legal or not? I was thinking it was... But then I couldn't quite see how it could be if you can't pull a trailer without plates... Thanks, Levi ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] Legality of towing unregistered car in NY?
Yeah, that's about what I figured... Well my dad has a truck and trailer but that's over in Hornell, so the extra cost to drive it might suck out as much as other thoughts... I'm wondering what the minimum cost would be to re-register it would be. Looks like probably $46 for the year even if I only do it for a couple weeks and then whatever insurance runs on top of that... Just a pain with trying to sell two cars, buying a new one and trying to keep only one registered... Especially now that this one needs to get fixed and it's not registered... Levi On 8/2/07, [EMAIL PROTECTED] [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Levi, I tow cars all of the time..It is illegal to tow with a strap unless the car has tags. You need to use a towbar to be legal...Simply take a piece of heavy pipe and run a chain through the middle and attach it to both cars as tight as you can get itThe cops really look for if you are being safe and smooth while towing rather than what you are towing with around here. If you need, I have a trailer if you have a truckMy truck will be up and running again soon. Mike Anyone happen to know what the legality is of towing an unregistered car in NY? I've got a Subaru that needs fixing and I think I may let someone else do it, but it's not registered... I'm thinking I would tow it down and then maybe just attach the strap and mock-tow it back(assuming it runs then), but it wouldn't have plates either way... And it does go right past a police station... Anyone know if that's legal or not? I was thinking it was... But then I couldn't quite see how it could be if you can't pull a trailer without plates... Thanks, Levi ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] Legality of towing unregistered car in NY?
Where/how can you get a paper tag for $10? I thought NY was a pain cause there was no such thing as a temp tag? Or is this something else? Levi On 8/2/07, [EMAIL PROTECTED] [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: If it will run and drive you can put insurance on it and buy a paper tag for 10 bucks. Mike Do you folks have repair plates? Around here the garages usually have a repair plate that can be used to transport a vehicle to the garage. The garage will usually lend you the plate in order to get the vehicle in. Some places also will sell you a one day permit to move a vehicle. I know you can get one here to move a vehicle to another province. Don't know if you can get one to move a vehicle within the province. Would probably have to have a current safety certificate to do that in any event. Another option is to get a tow truck. It will be cheaper in the long run than a ticket or an accident if you get caught or if things go wrong. I had a Jeep towed home for my younger son a month or so ago and and it cost $70 for a tow of 5 miles or so. I was tempted to tow it behind one of our trucks but also thought it would cost more than the tow to replace the back bumper on the truck if the Jeep happened to bump me. I have towed with just a rope. I towed a friend about 35 miles. He had a mid 80's full size Cadillac with an engine knock. He kept the motor running to provide power steering and brakes and I towed him with my old Chevy pickup. It was pretty smooth. You really want to be able to trust the other driver no matter whether you are in the tow vehicle or the towed vehicle. Also towed a Chevy pickup home from about 50 miles away on a 1/2 nylon rope behind a Ford pickup many years ago. No real problem. I drove the tow vehicle and my father steered the towed vehicle. I don't think he trusted me to not hit him from behind. I was pretty young then and he just instructed me to keep the speed down to about 40 mph and let him worry about not running into the back of me. It was pretty hilly country and we slowed a bit going up hills but there was not much traffic and we got home fine. Randy - in Winnipeg -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Behalf Of Levi Smith Sent: Thursday, August 02, 2007 10:43 AM To: Mercedes Discussion List Subject: [MBZ] Legality of towing unregistered car in NY? Anyone happen to know what the legality is of towing an unregistered car in NY? I've got a Subaru that needs fixing and I think I may let someone else do it, but it's not registered... I'm thinking I would tow it down and then maybe just attach the strap and mock-tow it back(assuming it runs then), but it wouldn't have plates either way... And it does go right past a police station... Anyone know if that's legal or not? I was thinking it was... But then I couldn't quite see how it could be if you can't pull a trailer without plates... Thanks, Levi ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] Legality of towing unregistered car in NY?
Well, I'm not sure of our level of civilization here. I imagine I could just tow it down there and back without issue. BUT... it's enough of a hassle as it is that I'm not sure I want to chance it. Just depends on the cop. I'm sure there are good ones out there, but personally I've yet to really meet one that helped me(some just weren't as MUCH of a pain as others) and generally they have only caused me pains... Levi On 8/2/07, Rich Thomas [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: It's nice living in such a civilized state as NY I'm sure, as it was living in Massachusetts. Here in Texas, things are so, um, uncivilized, that we don't generally have to worry about all that stuff. Makes me want to move back to the more civilized parts of the country. --R Levi Smith wrote: Where/how can you get a paper tag for $10? I thought NY was a pain cause there was no such thing as a temp tag? Or is this something else? Levi ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] Who wants a 300TD cheap?
Yeah, I can believe it closer to Ithaca. I'm usually on the other side of Corning. Hmm, no fraid I'm going looking for a Prius. I only got the benz to run on veggie and I'm getting tired of the mess, effort, time and bears. Without the veggie it's simply a nicely engineered old boat. I want something newer that's about as cheap as it can be on fuel without being a hassle.(and the more I read about them the more my geek factor gets turned up by the technology in them-That transmission is something to behold! Incredibly simple yet it takes a lot of brain power to comprehend!) Levi (: On 8/1/07, [EMAIL PROTECTED] [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Levi, There are actually several 123's right in this area. Many more the closer you get to Ithaca. Buy mine and sell yours.LOL Mike Wow, and here I am getting near time to sell my 83' 300D greasecar that's located about 20 minutes from there... Just seems odd since I hardly ever see any other 123's around... Levi On 8/1/07, [EMAIL PROTECTED] [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Hi John, It is in Montour Falls, NY 14865. Mike [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I have decided to sell my 83 300TD. I never have time to mess with it to even see what is the matter with the transmission. The engine runs great, starts right up no problem. Where's the car? ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] Who wants a 300TD cheap?
Wow, and here I am getting near time to sell my 83' 300D greasecar that's located about 20 minutes from there... Just seems odd since I hardly ever see any other 123's around... Levi On 8/1/07, [EMAIL PROTECTED] [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Hi John, It is in Montour Falls, NY 14865. Mike [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I have decided to sell my 83 300TD. I never have time to mess with it to even see what is the matter with the transmission. The engine runs great, starts right up no problem. Where's the car? ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] Who wants a 300TD cheap?
All items I've thought of, but the XFi and HF's and VX's(haven't looked much for the HX's) are first off, all still 10-20 years old and beyond that, they seem to be rarer than hens teeth. I've had searches up for more than a year now and in total I think I've seen maybe one HF that hadn't had an engine swap and it was in an accident. I think I've seen a single XFi and the guy wanted like $7K for it. I think maybe I've seen one or two VX's that hadn't had engine swaps and they had other problems. As for being easier to fix? Potentially... I had a CRX Si about 10 years ago and IT was getting hard to find certain parts for. I can't imagine it's improved in 10 years. And they did need work. It remains to be seen how reliable the Prius' are. I've seen several people with more than 200K miles on them(top was 280K miles), only really seeing sporadic issues with them really and you can see that with the other cars. You've got to watch the spare tire area on the CRX's cause they collect water and rust out... I've already looked and I can find used replacement parts for the Prius' at reasonable cost. Generally in the same ballpark as the used parts would be for the other cars... As for mileage? Yeah, they're all in the same ballpark. It all comes down to how you drive any of them. From everything I can tell, the Prius is hard to get below 40mpg, except in the middle of winter in NY you might get it down to 35mpg. If you drive WITH the car, you can see close to 60mpg with good conditions. The others can be close to that too, it just all depends. My brother had an HF and he never saw even 40mpg with it... Really the only other car vaguely in my sights at the moment are still the TDi's, but the wife would prefer the Prius cause she doesn't want a stick tranny and I'm not getting an auto TDi. The Jetta Wagons are too expensive so there's no real advantage there. Basically, I'm getting hooked on the ideas of generating power down my hill every day and driving distances without the engine running and other techy stuff. Not to mention that also for the wife's sake, the gas pumps are usually pretty clean, whereas the diesel pumps are usually not... Levi On 8/1/07, Mitch Haley [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Levi Smith wrote: I want something newer that's about as cheap as it can be on fuel without being a hassle. Then how about some proven technology, like a Geo Metro XFI or Honda CRX HF, either of which get more MPG and are easier to fix than a Toyota Priapism. There's also the Honda Civic VX and HX, which are about equal to the Toyota in mpg. Mitch. ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
[MBZ] 6 cyl e300 diesel?
OK, I dunno much about the Benz's other than the w123's I've been studying for the last couple years but this came up the other day: Apparently one of my parents neighbors has a 6cyl diesel that says e300 on the back. They're thinking late 80's early 90's. I've heard that: -It's really fast with a lot of power -gets 36mpg -trannies are only good for about 180K miles Who can tell me what this beast might be and how accurate those facts are? That mileage seems pretty high... But then I don't know that much about the newer stuff... Levi ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] Just saw this in Popular Machanics re: tires
In my experience, pressure washers work just fine on cars. That said, the half-brained person just needs to realize that the higher pressure your washer, the finer the point and the closer you get the more likely you are to clean more than you wanted. Personally, I've used them many times over the years and the only time I really did a good one was with a 10-15 year old CRX with plastic(and who knows what kind of paint). It already had some flaking off, and the pressure washer took good chunks out. Otherwise, no issues. I did use mine to remove some fedex decals from my van when I was done working for them. THAT took a while. Those suckers are on there good. I ended up having to use the pencil point at about 2 inches away for a lot of it and remove little pieces at a time. Levi On 7/17/07, Royce Engler [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Dan said I can't imagine anyone with half a brain in their head getting a pressure washer anywhere near a car. I agree if we're talking carsmy son and I used to routinely use the pressure washer on his '83 Jeep CJ-7 after a day of muddin...but then again it had a rattle can paint job and was subjected to much worse abuse than the pressure washer. Royce Temporarily Benzless '01 Ford Expedition 75K Just a baby... ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] OT: Hauling calves in a Benz [was Re: Is this Curt and his new 190? Or is it Marshall?]
I can recommend NOT strapping (12) 20' lengths of 1 galvanized pipe to the roof rack of a Subaru Impreza. It might not seem like that much in talking, but it's a lot heavier than it looks (well over the 125lb limit of the rack) and 20' is quite a bit longer than the car. That was quite interesting as I recall pipe sticking out way out over the hood and a bit in front of the car and a good ways out back too. Just trying to drive smoothly down the highway for 20 or 30 miles while the pipe just kinda see-sawed up and down over the bumps. I still have a dent in the front cross bar from that bit of stupidity. (: Levi Not sure if the mulch in a 944 beats the old Christmas tree on the whale tale of a 911... On 7/12/07, Tom Hargrave [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I hauled 9 bags of mulch home in a Porsche 944. My neighbor stopped me - one of his comments was You might be a redneck if... Thanks, Tom Hargrave www.kegkits.com 256-656-1924 -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Thursday, July 12, 2007 8:59 AM To: Mercedes Discussion List Subject: Re: [MBZ] OT: Hauling calves in a Benz [was Re: Is this Curt and his new 190? Or is it Marshall?] Very good story Craig!! I can relate to ALMOST every part of it at one time or another. Mike On Wed, 11 Jul 2007 10:50:23 -0600 Craig McCluskey [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: http://okiebenz.com/pipermail/mercedes_okiebenz.com/attachments/20070711/46b f684c/attachment.jpg You may laugh, but I actually did transport two calves that way. A humorous story in its own right, if anyone wants to hear it. Well, I guess people do want to hear it. OK, then. When Shirley and I lived in Colorado Springs in the early '80s, I was working for Hewlett-Packard. We lived, first, in town. For some reason, the neighborhood we lived in was a noisy one, with people thinking that everyone wanted to listen to the type of music they did and taking offense if asked to turn it down a little. We had enough of that and decided to move to the Black Forest area, north of town. While there, we raised a couple of calves, borrowing a friends horse trailer to tow behind our Willys Utility Wagon. We found, after a couple of years, that unremitting shade from pine trees got more than a little old and, here, too, people were inconsiderate of their neighbors, eventhough the neighbors were farther away from each other. Since they were out in the country, people just turned up their radios. Shirley had an uncle living on a farm in Nebraska, who we had visited a number of times. I liked the living and the environs and Shirley did, too. We finally found a place in spring '83, four miles south of the town of Calhan, Colorado, which is on Highway 24 between Colorado Springs and Limon. The place was 80 acres of unimproved land that had been planted in winter wheat. The nearest building was a microwave tower, about 3/4 mile away, and that was unoccupied. We could see a house to the east-southeast a little over a mile away, and the house of people who became good friends to the south-east a mile-and-a-half away. The land was on the mesa south of Calhan, several hundred feet higher than Calhan and at an elevation of almost 7000'. (Calhan is known as the Highest non-mountainous town in the US.) We bought and moved our Little Mobile Home on the Praire out onthe land, without well, without septic, and without power. Therein began 6 years of interesting adventures, about which we could, and probably should, write a book. We did get a septic tank put in and connected and did get a well put in -- that was 523' deep instead of the estimated 300' and blew our budget for quite a while. I'll cut this very short and skip to the incident in question. The situation is set up by knowing that Hewlett-Packard gave its employees Good Friday off every year and that the Calhan Livestock Auction held auctions on Fridays ... One particular Good Friday, I drove down to the Auction in our '72 220D to watch the proceedings. The weather was overcast, but decent. In watching all the animals being auctioned, I decided that it was time to have calves again (they do better in pairs). I figured I could make a shelter for them with a large tarp and our tractor that would do until I could go into Colorado Springs and get materials to make a better one. So, I bought two calves. At the end of the auction, I went outside to move the car so they could be loaded. I noticed that the weather had deteriorated considerably. Hmmm ... So, I backed up the car, opened the trunk, and told the fellow to load them in. They were just a couple of months old, perhaps 80 pounds. No problem for the W115 trunk (which, by the way, is noticably larger than that of W123s). I got the calves loaded and drove up the
Re: [MBZ] W123 Beater Review
So why don't you have it? Wouldn't that mean you just steal it? Levi On 7/12/07, Curt Raymond [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Man I'd like to find a diesel Quantum some day. I know where theres a diesel Dasher (which I think is basically the same car) but its been sitting for at least 10 years and the son of the lady who owns it totalled my parents cars a few years ago so we're not really on speaking terms. -Curt Date: Wed, 11 Jul 2007 20:25:30 -0500 From: Wonko the Sane [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: [MBZ] W123 Beater Review To: Mercedes Discussion List mercedes@okiebenz.com Message-ID: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Point taken. Allow me to rephrase. With a three car garage and three drivers, I have: Wife's Buick Regal, her car and what she likes. Frigid AC (her basic requirement). Daughter's Chevy Cavalier, bought and paid for out of her checkbook -- she loves it. My '77 W123 (my baby) My '82 VW Quantum diesel, a true beater but 50 mpg, my fun car. My '72 Honda motorcycle. One moped. Seven bicycles. Now, why would I want another vehicle on my insurance policy, even if it is a W123? - Moody friends. Drama queens. Your life? Nope! - their life, your story. Play Sims Stories at Yahoo! Games. ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
[MBZ] Voltage
Just curious if anyone else has taken much look at their voltages. I picked up a cigarette lighter voltage meter at Wal-mart for like $15 that I'm intending to use in some solar tinkering, but I decided to leave it in my 83' 300D while it's not doing anything else. This has proved interesting. Now, first off I don't know what's suppose to be in the car. The dual-belt alternator that was in the car when I got it died a few weeks ago, but the car came with a working (wasn't sure till I got it on the car) used alternator that I believe said 55amp Bosch on it, but it was a single pulley until I figured out the right combination of spacers and nuts and the pulley from the other one to get it to use that dual pulley. I also checked it's readings compared to a volt meter on the battery and it seems to average around .2V less than the battery is seeing. But what I've seen is that basically with nothing on (except a fuel pump) I think it might make it to 14v given enough time. It stays near that level with the radio on (though I can definitely see it kick on and I should note that it has some crappy amp the PO left in there drawing power). The gauge reads to hundredths of a volt so I can see it when I turn the fuel pump or basically anything on. Turning headlights on is usually ok an keeps it above 13.2V usually. (and I'm basing most of these while running, not at idle) The big sucker is the blower and worse yet with AC on. Basically, it just can't keep up. If I have max AC on and I'm cruising the highway I can probably hold around 12.8V. If it actually gets things to a semi-cool state and the fan slows a bit I can clear 13V. Now, with headlights and AC on? That's like 12V. Now, come to idle with those on? You're dropping into the 11V range for sure. So, I guess my question is, is this normal for an old alternator on an old car? To my knowledge, your voltage is *supposed* to be at least 13.2V. I'm wondering if that actually occurs with a new/rebuilt alternator, or if these old beasts just don't quite keep up no matter what... Levi ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] Voltage
Well, I'm sure 14.4 is more where it should be, but as far as I knew, 13.2was supposed to be the normal voltage of a charged battery, so as long as you had at least that much then the battery should be staying pretty well charged. above 14V sounds more like it should be and I believe as long as you're not much over that you should be good. Yeah, I forgot to mention those nice cold dark, foggy mornings. It really drops with AC/max fan, headlights, foglights, rear defroster, wiper, radio, etc... on... especially when you come to a stop and idle. (: I'm not likely to change it until it dies, but I'm interested to see that's where it's residing... Levi On 6/21/07, Jim Cathey [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: So, I guess my question is, is this normal for an old alternator on an old car? To my knowledge, your voltage is *supposed* to be at least 13.2V. You're about a volt low for these days. I think 14.4 is about normal, the old-time voltage was 13.8. Anything less is deficit spending! My 190D has a 70A alternator, but unless you're running AC, max blower, and all the lights just about anything you have should keep the voltage up. Try a new brush pack/regulator. Or the used one from your old alternator, assuming that bad brushes wasn't what took it out in the first place. -- Jim ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] Voltage
Yeah, that's why I was saying that it was reading about .2v lower than the battery was seeing(via my fairly decent regular voltmeter). Though I'd more likely attribute that to losses in the wiring between the battery and the cigarette lighter... Levi On 6/21/07, Fmiser [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: It seems than at Thu, 21 Jun 2007 09:34:17 -0700, Jim wrote: So, I guess my question is, is this normal for an old alternator on an old car? To my knowledge, your voltage is *supposed* to be at least 13.2V . You're about a volt low for these days. I think 14.4 is about normal, the old-time voltage was 13.8. Anything less is deficit spending! I recall that the W123s are expecting the old chemistry batteries, and so 13.8 is the correct nominal voltage. But maybe my recall ability is malfunctioning... Oh, and do you really trust that meter? Do you happen to own (or know someone who owns) an good meter you can check it against? --Philip, sceptic ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] Voltage
Don't get me wrong, I'm sure that's the right thing to do, but I'm not too worried, I'm just going to keep an eye on things and try to make sure that I'm not operating in that low voltage for too long. It just doesn't seem *that* bad (with a little monitoring on my part) and I REALLY don't feel like monkeying with it more and putting more money into it. (: Levi On 6/21/07, Curt Raymond [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Yeahbut, getting to 11v is too low, that alternator (or more likely the regulator/brush whatsis) HAS failed... When you're at 11v you're pulling from the battery and if you do that for any extended amount of time or if you leave it drawn you'll ruin the battery. Seems like you should replace the alternator (or the regulator first and then the alternator if need be) now or replace the alternator AND battery soon. -Curt Date: Thu, 21 Jun 2007 12:42:15 -0400 From: Levi Smith [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: [MBZ] Voltage To: Mercedes Discussion List mercedes@okiebenz.com Message-ID: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Well, I'm sure 14.4 is more where it should be, but as far as I knew, 13.2was supposed to be the normal voltage of a charged battery, so as long as you had at least that much then the battery should be staying pretty well charged. above 14V sounds more like it should be and I believe as long as you're not much over that you should be good. Yeah, I forgot to mention those nice cold dark, foggy mornings. It really drops with AC/max fan, headlights, foglights, rear defroster, wiper, radio, etc... on... especially when you come to a stop and idle. (: I'm not likely to change it until it dies, but I'm interested to see that's where it's residing... Levi - 8:00? 8:25? 8:40? Find a flick in no time with theYahoo! Search movie showtime shortcut. ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] OT Satellite Internet connection?
My boss has had DirecTV for a year or so. AFAIK, pretty much all the systems are 2-way now. But, DirecTV(Hughesnet) sucks because of they're FAP (Fair Access Policy). He gets to download 200mb in 24 hours. After that it drops to dialup speed. There are more expensive plans but they still seem to suck pretty bad if you were, you know, like actually going to use your connection to watch a movie or download anything or basically anything besides flip through plain web pages... He's getting Dish Network's service (WildBlue) in about a week. Looks to be a lot better. Something like 7-17GB/month and if you exceed it you still get 128k... I'm thinking about trying to get my parents set up with that too since they are currently paying like $50 for a second phone line and dial-up accesss and due to their distance out, they can't connect at more than about 21K... Levi On 6/18/07, Harry Watkins [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Anyone connected to one of these? I think there are two choices, but I'm not sure about that. I'll not live long enough to see DSL or cable in the area I live and the ten miles of twisted copper coming my way is getting older as we speak. Harry ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] OT Satellite Internet connection?
Umm, as I recall, Direct is like $600 for the equipment, then $200 for installation and like $70/month for the basic plan. Dish is like $200 for a lease for the equipment(you can get $10/month for 10 months rebate if you're a dish TV customer), then about $50 for the basic plan. Haven't heard anything about non-access periods, but I know he has definitely not had the most reliable connection with his DirectTV. Then again, a lot of that was before he learned about the FAP so he'd download a few windows updates on a couple computers and poof, the connection was all but gone I'm hoping Wildblue will be better... Levi On 6/19/07, Harry Watkins [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Levi Do you know the setup/hardware fees and monthly rates? About 3 years ago, I read on a forum about satellite connections that you need to keep a dialup service because of non access periods. Has your boss mentioned that? That brings the question, does anyone have a link to a good forum on the subject? Harry On 6/19/07, Levi Smith [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: My boss has had DirecTV for a year or so. AFAIK, pretty much all the systems are 2-way now. But, DirecTV(Hughesnet) sucks because of they're FAP (Fair Access Policy). He gets to download 200mb in 24 hours. After that it drops to dialup speed. There are more expensive plans but they still seem to suck pretty bad if you were, you know, like actually going to use your connection to watch a movie or download anything or basically anything besides flip through plain web pages... He's getting Dish Network's service (WildBlue) in about a week. Looks to be a lot better. Something like 7-17GB/month and if you exceed it you still get 128k... I'm thinking about trying to get my parents set up with that too since they are currently paying like $50 for a second phone line and dial-up accesss and due to their distance out, they can't connect at more than about 21K... Levi On 6/18/07, Harry Watkins [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Anyone connected to one of these? I think there are two choices, but I'm not sure about that. I'll not live long enough to see DSL or cable in the area I live and the ten miles of twisted copper coming my way is getting older as we speak. Harry ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] Increasing air flow in Diesel
I have heard that you CAN increase power and mileage in modern diesels, though I heard most of that with a computer update. But free-er flowing stuff is good for that too... But, uh... 10-15 mpg?? Like near doubling it??? Now THAT sounds like an awfully big crock... Levi On 6/14/07, wilton strickland [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Friend with 06 Ford F250 Diesel has gotten hyped up about and has ordered parts to, supposedly, increase air flow in his Diesel and, supposedly, increase fuel mileage by 10 to 15 mpg. Parts include Coolair filter and larger exhaust system. Somebody, please remind me about airflow (trying to improve it) in a Diesel, lack of throttling, etc. BTW, I'm thinking about selling friend part of a bridge to Brooklyn. Wilton 91 350SDL, 187kmi 87 300D, 104kmi ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] OT Polaris ATV
Yeah, I keep hearing about CV's, but all I'm seeing on mine are U-joints. However, they are definitely at a steep angle. I thought the same thing when I looked at it-that I was surprised they worked very well. Though they are pretty massive looking on those rears at the diff end. Like twice the size of the ones on the pto shaft of my 5ft 3pt hitch flail mower... Seems to be that there's what like 16 inches of ground clearance? And the output shaft is about that much higher than the hub... (: Levi On 6/6/07, Curt Raymond [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Is this one of the IFS/IRS machines? I hang out at the local ATV/Snowmobile shop alot and see alot of the Polaris machines that have independant rear suspensions in getting new rear CV joints. The CVs are at a very sharp angle and as soon as somebody puts on oversize or overagressive tires and/or really thromps on it they break. Theres on thats in with shocking regularity... They seem otherwise fine machines, comfortable and powerful. I've got a couple Polaris snowmobiles and love 'em, but there is a limitation in the IRS system. -Curt Date: Wed, 6 Jun 2007 14:22:16 -0400 From: Levi Smith [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: [MBZ] OT Polaris ATV To: Mercedes Discussion List Mercedes@okiebenz.com Message-ID: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Hey, this doesn't really have anything to do with Mercedes (yet), but sometimes you guys surprise me and know all sorts of s--stuff. I just picked up a 97' Polaris Sportsman 500 this weekend and am looking for more info, but not finding a whole lot. Anyone have any leads for good resources? You know, like the Polaris equivalent to okiebenz? Oh, I bet this is actually Mercedes related, cause this will probably plow the snow out of the driveway for the 83' 300D, and probably end up pulling it at some point... (: Levi - Looking for earth-friendly autos? Browse Top Cars by Green Rating at Yahoo! Autos' Green Center. ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] Disabling EGR (was: Grey market issues)
What are the symptoms of one that is stuck open? Levi On 6/6/07, Loren Faeth [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: yes. It needs to be done before the valve is stuck open. At 11:00 AM 6/6/2007, you wrote: On 6/5/07, Loren Faeth [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Why bother? A bb in the vacuum line is WAY cheaper and faster. But doesn't work if the valve is stuck open. BTDT. Alex Chamberlain '87 300D Turbo '93 Isuzu Trooper '86 Lincoln Mark VII LSC ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com Loren Faeth ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
[MBZ] OT Polaris ATV
Hey, this doesn't really have anything to do with Mercedes (yet), but sometimes you guys surprise me and know all sorts of s--stuff. I just picked up a 97' Polaris Sportsman 500 this weekend and am looking for more info, but not finding a whole lot. Anyone have any leads for good resources? You know, like the Polaris equivalent to okiebenz? Oh, I bet this is actually Mercedes related, cause this will probably plow the snow out of the driveway for the 83' 300D, and probably end up pulling it at some point... (: Levi
Re: [MBZ] New vid site
Certainly sounds like you have a good daughter. (: Levi On 5/31/07, Rich Thomas [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: My daughter got into this new vid site, showed me a Fifth Gear vid yesterday of a Ferrari 430 track test. Good quality. Y'all might be interested. Looks like you have to get some sort of login, she says the vids have a short commercial in them somewhere but not too intrusive. That one we watched did not. http://www.joost.com/whatson/ --R ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] New vid site
Yeah, once I somehow accidentally become a trillionaire, I think I might pick up one of those Veyron's... (: On 5/31/07, Rich Thomas [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Well, she lusts after that Ferrari, after the Bentley Continental GT and the Bugatti Veyron. --R Levi Smith wrote: Certainly sounds like you have a good daughter. (: Levi On 5/31/07, Rich Thomas [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: My daughter got into this new vid site, showed me a Fifth Gear vid yesterday of a Ferrari 430 track test. Good quality. Y'all might be interested. Looks like you have to get some sort of login, she says the vids have a short commercial in them somewhere but not too intrusive. That one we watched did not. http://www.joost.com/whatson/ --R ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] New vid site
Yeah, invitations all around! (: I've heard of it but not yet played with it. Not sure if will be friendly with my Linux box either... Levi On 5/31/07, Rich Thomas [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I don't know, you might not be hip enough to be part of the joost generation. --R BillR wrote: Looks interesting, but the site says I will need an invitation from a current user. Can you do that? BillR ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] Leaking R134 valve
Hmm... Dunno, I don't know what R12 connectors are like. There's a dust cap that screws on to a pop-on coupling that works with any of the R134 refill kits. It *looks* like that's part of the pipe... But for all I know, perhaps it's somehow threaded onto a smaller piece on the pipe? This is sounding like I'm going to be better off to take it to someone who knows what they're doing until I've seen it done once... Levi On 5/29/07, Mitch Haley [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: What kind of R134 connectors do you have? The ones with their own schrader valves, or the ones that fit over the R12 service connector and have a little pushrod to open the original schrader valve? If the latter, can you fix the leak by removing the adapter (or was it coated in permanent threadlocker?). ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] Leaking R134 valve
So, then there are actually TWO shrader valves, one on top of the other? Or is the R12 one removed from the inside, then this R134 with shrader fitted to the outside? Or is the R12 Shrader still there and this is just an outer fitting? Levi On 5/30/07, Jim Cathey [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Hmm... Dunno, I don't know what R12 connectors are like. They look an awful lot like a big-brother version of your basic tire valve stem. (The metal part.) It *looks* like that's part of the pipe... But for all I know, perhaps it's somehow threaded onto a smaller piece on the pipe? Exactly. -- Jim ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] Leaking R134 valve
Hmm, ok anyone happen to know if there's any particular size to the low side of that R134 in my 83' 300D? I started calling a couple auto parts places and they are telling me that there are lots of different sizes... I was hoping that by some miracle I might be able to get the valve swapped without losing the ENTIRE charge of R134... Or am I just dreaming? Of course this would necessitate having a new one ready to go before pulling the old one... Thanks! Levi On 5/28/07, Jim Cathey [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: since the AC was somewhat useful today. So, my questions are, is that thing a shrader valve? Either way can it be easily be replaced or otherwise likely fixed? It's a Schrader valve, but not exactly the same as a tire valve core. They often start to come unscrewed, I've tightened a few which has stopped the loss of refrigerant. The usual tire stem tool will do the job, or perhaps even a pair of hemostats. If the valve itself is shot it's easily replaced, but not easy to do without losing all the charge! (There are specialized tools for doing this job.) Possibly the nasty oil/R134a combination has eaten the valve's rubber seal. Nobody ever talks about replacing the valves with R134a-rated ones. O-rings, sure. Hoses, yes indeed. Valves? Dead silence. Also, should I be seeing a lot of oil, or is that a sign that there's too much in there? Oil is mixed with the refrigerant, so any leak should bring some oil with it. If you lose enough you should replace it. -- Jim ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
[MBZ] Leaking R134 valve
OK, so I went to add some R134 to my 83' 300d as I've done in the past. Well, when I went to disconnect, the valve (low side) seems to be stuck open. I'm getting a lot of oil and a bit of air coming out. I tried reconnecting/disconnecting it but it seems to be stuck open. I ended up just putting the cap on the valve and apparently it's holding to a degree since the AC was somewhat useful today. So, my questions are, is that thing a shrader valve? Either way can it be easily be replaced or otherwise likely fixed? Also, should I be seeing a lot of oil, or is that a sign that there's too much in there? Thanks! Levi
Re: [MBZ] Leaking R134 valve
I thought you had to have different valves to be R134 compliant? I.e. R12 and R134 have different standard fittings and if you don't change the valve then you won't be able to use the R134 charge fittings? Levi On 5/28/07, Jim Cathey [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: since the AC was somewhat useful today. So, my questions are, is that thing a shrader valve? Either way can it be easily be replaced or otherwise likely fixed? It's a Schrader valve, but not exactly the same as a tire valve core. They often start to come unscrewed, I've tightened a few which has stopped the loss of refrigerant. The usual tire stem tool will do the job, or perhaps even a pair of hemostats. If the valve itself is shot it's easily replaced, but not easy to do without losing all the charge! (There are specialized tools for doing this job.) Possibly the nasty oil/R134a combination has eaten the valve's rubber seal. Nobody ever talks about replacing the valves with R134a-rated ones. O-rings, sure. Hoses, yes indeed. Valves? Dead silence. Also, should I be seeing a lot of oil, or is that a sign that there's too much in there? Oil is mixed with the refrigerant, so any leak should bring some oil with it. If you lose enough you should replace it. -- Jim ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] DIY Powdercoating
Hmm... What temperature do you need it at? I've got an oven sitting in my barn that works other than the normal range of the thermostat. i.e. it'll still hold like 700F for the clean cycle... Probably not much use for most things. I think I'm gonna have to chuck it... Levi On 5/25/07, Mike Canfield [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Yeah, but Mama would be mighty peeved when her cookies came out tasting and smelling like your wheels. Mike - Original Message - From: wilton strickland [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: mercedes@okiebenz.com Sent: Friday, May 25, 2007 9:38 AM Subject: [MBZ] DIY Powdercoating --bake at 400 degrees. 'Sounds like a project for Mama's oven. Wilton ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] DIY Powdercoating
Then the next thing would probably be to defeat the oven lock. Otherwise I'm guessing that pizza would be good and crispy since you'd have to put it in before it reached that temp and couldn't check it and you'd have to wait until the oven cooled down before it would let you open the door.. (: Levi On 5/25/07, Allan Streib [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Levi Smith [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: Hmm... What temperature do you need it at? I've got an oven sitting in my barn that works other than the normal range of the thermostat. i.e. it'll still hold like 700F for the clean cycle... Probably not much use for most things. I think I'm gonna have to chuck it... Would make a good pizza oven. You need a *really* hot oven for a good pizza, it's not unheard of for people to override the cleaning cycle lockout on their home ovens to get the temperature into that range. Commercial pizza deck ovens run at about 600 or more, the convection/conveyor style (which IMO produce an inferior pizza) are a little cooler. My gas oven at home has a digital thermostat, it will go to 550 which is just barely adequate for a good homemade pizza if you use a pizza stone. I've not tried the cleaning cycle trick, myself. Allan -- 1983 300D 1966 230 ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] DIY Powdercoating
Ahh, sounds like the powdercoating is flammable, or otherwise gets that way in an enclosed heated area... Yeah, probably just a couple bucks though. Some guy stopped by last weekend looking for scrap. I may make him up a pile of stuff, just doesn't quite seem worth the hassle to me if someone is willing to take it for free. Levi On 5/25/07, Mike Canfield [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Hi Levi, I am not certain of the exact temp needed but I do know it must be an electric oven or it will explode.Is your oven electric? If nothing else tin price is up and that old oven is actually worth a couple bucks at the scrapyard. I bet a toaster oven would work for really small parts and practicing. Mike - Original Message - From: Levi Smith [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: Mercedes Discussion List mercedes@okiebenz.com Sent: Friday, May 25, 2007 9:56 AM Subject: Re: [MBZ] DIY Powdercoating Hmm... What temperature do you need it at? I've got an oven sitting in my barn that works other than the normal range of the thermostat. i.e. it'll still hold like 700F for the clean cycle... Probably not much use for most things. I think I'm gonna have to chuck it... Levi On 5/25/07, Mike Canfield [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Yeah, but Mama would be mighty peeved when her cookies came out tasting and smelling like your wheels. Mike - Original Message - From: wilton strickland [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: mercedes@okiebenz.com Sent: Friday, May 25, 2007 9:38 AM Subject: [MBZ] DIY Powdercoating --bake at 400 degrees. 'Sounds like a project for Mama's oven. Wilton ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] DIY Powdercoating
AAAhhh, I kind of understood what you meant, but I was thinking you meant to defeat it so that you could take the oven to temps above what the cleaning cycle was meant for... This makes more sense... (: Levi On 5/25/07, Allan Streib [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Levi Smith [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: Then the next thing would probably be to defeat the oven lock. Otherwise I'm guessing that pizza would be good and crispy since you'd have to put it in before it reached that temp and couldn't check it and you'd have to wait until the oven cooled down before it would let you open the door.. (: That's what I meant by override the cleaning cycle lockout. Defeat or Disable would have been a better word. Allan -- 1983 300D 1966 230 ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] Off Topic Hybrids
I think the VX was around 40-50mpg... It seemed like fuel efficient V-tec step up from the CRX HF which was around 40mpg... Levi On 5/20/07, Jeff Zedic [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: But wasn't the insight built shortly after the Civic VX (?) that got 70 mpg without the hybrid nonsense? Can't remember which model designation it was but they had a normal 90's Honda that got great mileage. Never could figure out why the US manufacturers insisted on keeping gutless 5.7 L engines with pollution controls when a Euro 2.0 L was just as quick with fewer pollutants...hmmm Jeff Zedic ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] 124 wagon hitches, was: Re: Gotta brag -- Check out my $3200 '87 300TDT
Technically speaking, you could get some bulb sockets and make up your own harness that just plugged into the existing lights and didn't interfere with the stock harness... Levi On 5/18/07, John Robbins [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Levi Smith wrote: Sorry, you nixed that one with the not cutting the wiring harness in your last message. I was talking about a universal one that you just put on with a couple vampire taps... Is there actually a socket in the wiring harness that is designated for hooking up the trailer wiring? I imagine if there is Rusty can at least get the connector and the wiring could be done DIY to a generic hookup. John ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] 124 wagon hitches, was: Re: Gotta brag -- Check out my $3200 '87 300TDT
Sorry, you nixed that one with the not cutting the wiring harness in your last message. I was talking about a universal one that you just put on with a couple vampire taps... Levi On 5/18/07, Mike Canfield [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I hadn't checked Wally World yet..They didn't have one for my Dodge truck so I was doubtfull about the TD. Mike - Original Message - From: Levi Smith [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: Mercedes Discussion List mercedes@okiebenz.com Sent: Friday, May 18, 2007 9:34 AM Subject: Re: [MBZ] 124 wagon hitches,was: Re: Gotta brag -- Check out my $3200 '87 300TDT Ahh, you just pick one up for like $15 at Wal-mart and wire it in. It's worked fine on my 97' Subaru and 83' 300D... Levi On 5/17/07, Mike Canfield [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I'd love to have a trailer wiring harness for my 123 TD if they exist..I need to fix the bumpers anyway so i will be building my own reciever hitch for it. Mike - Original Message - From: Joe Knight [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: mercedes@okiebenz.com Sent: Thursday, May 17, 2007 9:11 AM Subject: [MBZ] 124 wagon hitches,was: Re: Gotta brag -- Check out my $3200 '87 300TDT If you want, I can have a look around here for harnessesthere's millions of 124 T's floating around here! -Jeff Zedic Thx, Jeff, but I already got mine. John is mulling that prospect, but it's my possibly mistaken understanding that the MB factory hitches weren't exported to GB. IIRC, there's a thriving market for aftermkt hitches on Brit ebay. Shipping's probably a major hitch to bringing any of those things over as they are pretty heavy, plus unless you've got a contact on the ground near where you're buying from you've got to convince a potential seller to jump thru the extra hoops involved in pond hopping. -joe ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] Off Topic Hybrids
I don't know much about the Escape in particular and I tend to steer clear of most American vehicles. They're usually good enough but from my experience they're not as reliable as the Japanese stuff. Still, overall from what I've seen, in terms of cost, if you're planning on keeping the vehicle for 100K miles or more there's a good chance you'll make up the difference in fuel cost compared to the extra you paid for the Hybrid part. If you're only going to keep it for a few years and maybe 60K miles it's kinda doubtful that you'll recover that fuel cost compared to buying the cheaper model. You just don't generally get THAT much better mileage compared to the extra cost. Make sure you're aware that you will NOT get the mileage ratings on the window for city and only the highway rating if you accelerate slowly and keep it to 45mph... They are changing the ratings now to make a bit more sense (especially in regards to hybrids that might complete half the test without ever starting the engine, but not getting to the point of having to recharge)and the Prius is about to lose around 12mpg in the city rating. As for batteries, that's going to FAST becoming more of an issue in my mind. I've been watching the Honda list lately as the Insights were the first around 2000. And as expected, the batteries last around 6 years it seems. Honda seems to be doing pretty good and for the most part replacing them for free even on a 7 year old car with 178K miles on it. But I'd say you could expect to pay somewhere in the $500-3K range if and when your batteries die and you decide to replace them. I haven't really heard any reliability problems with them other than the same thing with pretty much ANY battery in that it's hard to make them last more than somewhere around 6 years... I *LOVE* the idea, but there are a lot of caveats with it. I'd love to pick up one of the original Insights that ACTUALLY got 70mpg on the highway. That could be done for like $6K too... It would still get near that mileage if the battery pack was toast too. Unfortunately they've more or less got it tied into the system so that if the battery pack gets completely useless there's no way to charge the normal 12V battery that would run the electrical system... Levi On 5/18/07, Donald Snook [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: My wife told me she really likes the Ford Escape Hybrid and may want to sell/trade her Explorer to get one. I am a little leary of hybrid technology while it is still so new. Does anyone know anything about the reliability? Or the cost to replace the batteries when they will inevitably need to be replaced. I read an article that talked about the fact that with the cost of the batteries all the fuel savings is gone. Any information would be great. Donald H. Snook 1990 300SEL 137K (For Sale) http://www.autotrader.com/fyc/vdp.jsp?car_id=221355344 ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] OT: Hey LT Don: motorcycle oil
I use Mobil 1 MXv4T (I think that's it) in my 84' Honda VF500F Interceptor (500cc V-4) Works good. Seems like it's usually like $9 from Autozone, or I think I last time they were out and I ordered it from someplace online... Levi On 4/24/07, LT Don [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I've had good luck with Mobil 1 15-W-50 wet clutch. No slipping, etc. Went with the higher viscosity because it is an air-cooled engine running in the higher rpm range. On 4/24/07, Curt Raymond [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Yeah another oil thread... IIRC LT Don uses Mobil 1 in his motorcycle. -- LT Don The Crazy Coastie http://don.homelinux.net/~don/ Make a small loan, Make a big difference - Kiva.org ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] Rust at jacking point 83' 300D
So what's the probable plan then? Just watch it and when it seems like the metal is too fatigued(is this when the jack-rod comes up through the floor?), dig the whole thing out and rebuild? Levi On 4/19/07, Jim Cathey [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: So... Just how well put in are those jacking points in an 83' 300D? Fairly well. But once the rust attacks like you've seen it's probably got a very good start on the thicker metal that's behind the facade. Just boxing it in may not be a good idea. -- Jim ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] Rust at jacking point 83' 300D
I guess what's most interesting to me is that it seems to only be this one point. The others seem fine. I do have rust around the rear fenders, and some minor bits elsewhere but this is the most major structural looking I've seen yet. As long as the engine holds out Perhaps I'll just have to add a tube frame to it and end up with a MBZ go-kart... Levi On 4/20/07, Tom Hargrave [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Serious rust at the jack points is usually the beginning of the end. It's a sign that there is serious cancer elsewhere. Each jack point are built strong enough to lift 1/2 the car and if you can no longer lift the car then what lesser parts have been weakened? Thanks, Tom Hargrave www.kegkits.com 256-656-1924 -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Levi Smith Sent: Friday, April 20, 2007 7:43 AM To: Mercedes Discussion List Subject: Re: [MBZ] Rust at jacking point 83' 300D So what's the probable plan then? Just watch it and when it seems like the metal is too fatigued(is this when the jack-rod comes up through the floor?), dig the whole thing out and rebuild? Levi On 4/19/07, Jim Cathey [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: So... Just how well put in are those jacking points in an 83' 300D? Fairly well. But once the rust attacks like you've seen it's probably got a very good start on the thicker metal that's behind the facade. Just boxing it in may not be a good idea. -- Jim ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] Rust at jacking point 83' 300D
Yeah, I'd be more likely to use that normally anyway, mine just died that day and I wanted to get the wheels changed. Thing is, I'd be likely to use the floor jack under that same spot... Or is there some other nice spot for a floor jack to just get one wheel off the ground(front right specifically)? Levi Wonder what the shipping would be for 2 tons from AZ to NY? (: On 4/20/07, Tom Hargrave [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: You can always use a roll around jack. Just remember, as metal goes away so does strength. I would not want to be involved in a serious accident in a car with serious corrosion problems, even a Mercedes. There are too many rust free bodies out there - I bet that even Kaleb could provide you one at reasonable cost. Thanks, Tom Hargrave www.kegkits.com 256-656-1924 -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Levi Smith Sent: Friday, April 20, 2007 8:00 AM To: Mercedes Discussion List Subject: Re: [MBZ] Rust at jacking point 83' 300D I guess what's most interesting to me is that it seems to only be this one point. The others seem fine. I do have rust around the rear fenders, and some minor bits elsewhere but this is the most major structural looking I've seen yet. As long as the engine holds out Perhaps I'll just have to add a tube frame to it and end up with a MBZ go-kart... Levi On 4/20/07, Tom Hargrave [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Serious rust at the jack points is usually the beginning of the end. It's a sign that there is serious cancer elsewhere. Each jack point are built strong enough to lift 1/2 the car and if you can no longer lift the car then what lesser parts have been weakened? Thanks, Tom Hargrave www.kegkits.com 256-656-1924 -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto: [EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Levi Smith Sent: Friday, April 20, 2007 7:43 AM To: Mercedes Discussion List Subject: Re: [MBZ] Rust at jacking point 83' 300D So what's the probable plan then? Just watch it and when it seems like the metal is too fatigued(is this when the jack-rod comes up through the floor?), dig the whole thing out and rebuild? Levi On 4/19/07, Jim Cathey [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: So... Just how well put in are those jacking points in an 83' 300D? Fairly well. But once the rust attacks like you've seen it's probably got a very good start on the thicker metal that's behind the facade. Just boxing it in may not be a good idea. -- Jim ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
[MBZ] Rust at jacking point 83' 300D
So... Just how well put in are those jacking points in an 83' 300D? Basically my right front one seems to have lost a couple inches of metal on the vertical surface on either side of the hole in the last year or so. I did jack it up with both the Mercedes Jack and a floor jack directly underneath it in the last couple weeks and I haven't noticed any catastrophic failures... I *almost* thought I might have seen some metal bending, but it was hard to tell because I was being extra stupid and using the plain old 3inch bottom of the Mercedes jack on a nice soft dirt(some gravel) driveway. So I was typically sinking a couple inches into the driveway for the time it took to change each wheel. So the question is: Are the jacking points nice and solidly put together in there otherwise, or do I need to get in there and weld in a couple pieces of steel on either side of the jack-hole? Thanks! Levi
Re: [MBZ] Manual battery boost
Uhhh... If you were going to go to that much trouble, why not just pop start it entirely? I suppose technically if you timed everything perfectly it could potentially be a little less strain on the starter, but I'd never do it. I'm just going to start the car normally, OR I'm going to pop start it. And I'm only going to pop start it if for some reason I don't think it's going to start normally... Same as whether that's my car or my bike... Levi On 4/7/07, Zoltan Finks [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Was wondering if anyone has ever tried this: In cold weather, attempting to start a manual tranny diesel: Before doing anything else: pushing the vehicle a few feet and then popping the clutch out in first gear (or reverse might be geared lower?), thus hopefully achieving some engine rotation (and thereby relieving the starter of the task of lurching the near-frozen engine into motion)? Then proceeding with the appropriate starting procedure? I used to do this with my motorcycle, thinking I was helping the battery not have work so hard to get the engine turning on cold mornings. Brian 83 240D that has been starting well in 15 degree F lately ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] Help with CD's and DVD's
If you're running windows, just use Media Player to rip the MP3's and DVD shrink to rip the DVD's. You might want Daemon tools to view the isos... Levi On 3/28/07, Rick Knoble [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Download iTunes and rip 'em all to your hard drive. Then get an iPod to listen to 'em with Or if you use Windows, download EAC with LAME, rip to the hd and load your MP3 player up Rick Knoble '85 300 CD '87 190 DT ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] Router and Firewall
Not with Linux... On 3/18/07, Tom Hargrave [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: You've got to have anti-virus! Thanks, Tom Hargrave www.kegkits.com 256-656-1924 -Original Message- From: LarryT [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Saturday, March 17, 2007 6:20 PM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Cc: Mercedes Discussion List Subject: Re: Router and Firewall Thanks Tom!! I'll drop my Firewall - what about AV? Larry T (67 MGB, 74 911, 78 240D, 91 300D) www.youroil.net for Oil Analysis and Weber Parts Test Results http://members.rennlist.com/oil PORSCHE POSTERS! youroil.net Weber Carb Info http://members.rennlist.com/webercarbs Porsche Road Test http://members.rennlist.com/roadtest/ . ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] OT: Any good Subaru forum out there?
I'd definitely do the tranny flush/filter change. That's fixed any of 3 slight issues I've had with both of our 97' Sube tranny's. Though none of those were really slipping. Twice mine would just drop out of a gear for a second if I held it to the floor, but letting up on the gas dropped it back in. And my wife's was keeping the center clutch engaged a bit too much so it was binding a bit turning in parking lots. All of these issues were with around 100K miles on that set of tranny fluid/filter though and the flush/filter change fixed them. The only Slipping I've dealt with was when I tried putting in synthetic fluid in mine with 110K miles on it. Apparently mine's worn enough that it doesn't like synthetic. The only Sube groups I'm on are the Yahoo Outback Sport lists. Not bad groups by any means, but there seems to only be a handful of people who have a whole lot of knowledge. Levi On 3/10/07, Alex Chamberlain [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I know some people here (Levi?) have experience with Subarus. Is there any good mailing list, web forum, etc. out there? The only ones I can find with a quick Google search seem devoted to souping up WRX models. My girlfriend's '98 Legacy has a slipping transmission and beyond changing the fluid/filter and checking the computer for trouble codes I'm at a loss what to do. (The only automatic I've tinkered with is the one on my 300D, and the Subaru of course has nothing like the mechanical/vacuum controls on the Benz---everything is controlled electrically, it looks like.) Alex Chamberlain '87 300D Turbo '93 Isuzu Trooper ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] OT: Subaru Legacy transmissions [was: Any good Subaru forum out there?]
I took mine to the Jiffy Lube to have them flushed. Back then they did filters with the flush as part of the service. Apparently now they charge like an extra $40 to change the filter too. I kinda think the tranny cooler is part of the radiator, like just a bottom or side chamber. MBZ content: My 83' 300D CLUNKS into pretty much every gear. I assume it's a lack of vacuum. It's done it since i've had it, but I hear that is the way they last the longest. I've gotten used to it, but it throws people off who haven't ridden with me. (: Levi On 3/12/07, Alex Chamberlain [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On 3/12/07, Levi Smith [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I'd definitely do the tranny flush/filter change. That's fixed any of 3 slight issues I've had with both of our 97' Sube tranny's. Though none of those were really slipping. Twice mine would just drop out of a gear for a second if I held it to the floor, but letting up on the gas dropped it back in. Thanks Levi. Sometimes the '98 Legacy in question does that drop out of gear thing, sometimes more of a slip-and-flare like a worn M-B auto, and sometimes when cold it shifts hard and late---sort of step on the gas, wait, then WHAM! Did you do the flush and filter change yourself? I've changed what I could on the Legacy twice with the drain plug on the pan, but I'm well aware that that method doesn't get anywhere near all the fluid. I'd like to change it all by the method of disconnecting the input line to the transmission cooler and running the engine while pouring fresh fluid in the top, but I have two problems: can't find the cooler (is it inside one of the front fenders?) and can't get the tranny pan off to change the filter at the same time (the factory used something like RTV instead of a real gasket and it might as well be welded shut for all the luck I've had breaking the seal). (Mercedes content: Valvoline High Mileage ATF [in a bright red bottle] seemed to help the Subaru shift better for a little while, then the symptoms returned. Anyone tried this stuff in an older M-B transmission, or should I just stick to Mobil 1? Does the Lucas magic transmission additive worth trying? [Some people swear by it.] My 300D goes CLUNK! into reverse and occasionally on the 1-2 shift at light throttle, but otherwise shifts perfectly---crisp but not harsh.) Alex Chamberlain '87 300D Turbo '93 Isuzu Trooper ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] Resister to lower voltage to use LEDS as small lights
Agreed. They have 12v automotive applications for LED's all over. I've bought some LED trailer lights. Guess what? They work. Much better than regular ones too. I'd be willing to bet they'll last a lot longer than regular bulbs... Come to think of it, I seem to recall an old electronics kit I had with variable voltages and light. When I was tired of it and just monkeying around I cranked the voltage all the way up and tried out various things. The regular bulbs blew pretty quick. The LED was the only thing that didn't. (the motor spun really fast for a minute, but that's not related to lights) (: Levi On 3/8/07, Rich Thomas [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I bought a couple of 12V LEDs a the electronic toystore for like $0.99 each. Just go buy a couple, stick them on car power somewhere and see if they work out. If they do, then use them in your application. If they don't then try something else. What we seem to have here is paralysis by analysis. --R (BSLED, Smoke Test School of Engineering) ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] M1 Turbo Diesel Truck
I could have sworn what I saw was Mobil 1, 10w-40 Not just Mobil 10w-40... Yeah, here it is... http://www.mobiloil.com/USA-English/MotorOil/Oils/Mobil_1_High_Mileage_10W-40.aspx Introducing New Mobil 1 High Mileage New Mobil 1 High Mileage, available in a 10W-30 and a 10W-40, is designed especially for engines where conventional oil has been used. Mobil 1 High Mileage reduces the sludge and deposits that conventional oils can leave behind. Levi On 2/7/07, Marshall Booth [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Levi Smith wrote: Also, what about the M1 10w-40 for high mileage engines would this be fine for old Benz' and perhaps offer a slight increase in cranking speed on these 0F days? Mobil 10W-40 High Mileage is NOT a group IV synthetic oil (like the Mobil 1 oils) and while it is API CF rated it is NOT approved for Mercedes engines (may not have ever been tested)! http://www.mobil.com/USA-English/Lubes/PDS/GLXXENPVLMOMobil_Clean_High_Mileage.asp I'd use Delvac 1300 or Chevron Delo 400 if you don't want to use a real synthetic. Marshall -- Marshall Booth Ph.D. Ass't Prof. (ret.) Univ of Pittsburgh School of Medicine [EMAIL PROTECTED] ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] M1 15k Oil
I'd tend to agree with this in terms of a good gas engine. However, from what I hear 10K seems to be the safer limit for old diesels that seem to contaminate the oil... Levi On 2/8/07, Sunil Hari [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: they say 15k, i'm betting it works to 18-20k my only real concern is that with extended oil change intervals, can the oil filters keep up? I've been running M1 5w-40 truck/suv oil, and my real worry is that the filter will quit before the oil breaks down. On 2/8/07, Rich Thomas [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: So is that M1 15k (Guaranteed!) mile stuff really good for 15k miles? I put some in my Suburban, it is at maybe 10k miles now and I am getting a bit noodgy about it. I guess I should trust it, but all this oil talk has got me paranoid. --R Marshall Booth wrote: Levi Smith wrote: Also, what about the M1 10w-40 for high mileage engines would this be fine for old Benz' and perhaps offer a slight increase in cranking speed on these 0F days? Mobil 10W-40 High Mileage is NOT a group IV synthetic oil (like the Mobil 1 oils) and while it is API CF rated it is NOT approved for Mercedes engines (may not have ever been tested)! http://www.mobil.com/USA-English/Lubes/PDS/GLXXENPVLMOMobil_Clean_High_Mileage.asp I'd use Delvac 1300 or Chevron Delo 400 if you don't want to use a real synthetic. Marshall ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com -- Sunil Hari 1992 300D 2.5T - 290Kmi. [EMAIL PROTECTED] 513-205-7474 ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] Wolwo safety
It all depends. I certainly didn't think the alternator in my 83' 300D was easy to remove. It wasn't THAT bad, but it required a few extra pieces be removed. My Subaru was just like two bolts from the top... The thermostat was easier on the sube since I didn't have to squash my hand in between fan blades or what not... The cv shaft... mmm, could go either way... The Benz is a pain to remove the diff cover and pull the C-clip, but the Sube had a stupid roll pin. I much preferred my Hondas and Isuzus which simply had circlips that you just popped out with a little prying. Brakes are easier on the Sube. Close call, but you don't have to monkey with wheel bearings on the front rotors. Spark plugs are in better locations than glow plugs on the ones I've had... I'd rate the Benz pretty easy as far as mechanical work goes, but I would have to give the nod to the Subaru. The Sube has 220K miles and has not had many issues, but then it is about 14 years younger than the Benz... Levi On 2/6/07, David Brodbeck [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Peter Frederick wrote: Japanese cars DO require less work than American ones -- I've had way too many friends who have driven them hundreds of thousands of miles with nothing but tires, oil changes, and brakes -- and sometimes not even brakes. They can be a pain to work on when they *do* break, though. If you ever have to change the alternator in a Honda Civic you'll see what I mean. Hint: step 1 is remove driver's side drive axle. I think they way Honda stamps the required socket size on the head of each bolt is a rather nice touch, though. If it says 10, you reach for the 10mm socket. No guessing required. ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] M1 Turbo Diesel Truck
Also, what about the M1 10w-40 for high mileage engines would this be fine for old Benz' and perhaps offer a slight increase in cranking speed on these 0F days? Levi On 2/7/07, Kaleb C. Striplin [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Saw it as autozone today in the quart bottles, 6.19 each. The 15W50 or whatever it is extented was like 6.93 I think. The 5qt jugs of the extended at walmart are cheaper. Should be just as good ad the TDT shouldnt it? -- Kaleb C. Striplin/Claremore, OK (2x) 91 300D 2.5 Turbo, 90 420SEL, 89 560SEL, 87 300SDL, 85 380SE 5.0 Euro, 84 190D 2.2, 81 240D, 76 240D, 76 300D, 72 250C, 69 250 http://www.okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] if I die, it was nice knowing you all....read link re: KC chemical plant explosion
Nice knowing you too Chris. Who knows, maybe you'll gain superpowers... Levi Hopefully it's not REALLY that bad and I won't feel bad making those comments... On 2/7/07, Christopher McCann [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: http://www.kansascity.com/mld/kansascity/news/local/16645161.htm huge fire, lots of smoke over the city, sirens, helicopters, not good. Chris Christopher McCann, Squier Park, Kansas City, Missouri -2006 GSD, Anke (Yanke von der burg Austerlitz) -2006 GSD, Sammy (Zane von der burg Austerlitz) www.austerlitzshepherds.com -1985 300SD, 219K miles, Wulf -1982 300Dt, 117K miles, little blue klatter box - Access over 1 million songs - Yahoo! Music Unlimited. ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
[MBZ] Cold weather
Just thought I'd share some of my cold weather this morning here near Corning, NY. It was about 1F outside. Block heater was plugged in for a couple hours before starting. It wasn't that bad, but it did take a couple tries. (Not NEARLY as bad as this weekend when it was in the single digits during the day, no block heater and 2 glow plugs were out. That took a LOT of cranking.) (: Well, on my mainly 45 minute highway commute at about 70mph, by the end of the trip my veggie tank was at about 65F and the cabin temp was up to about 45F. Levi
Re: [MBZ] Cold weather
Temp gauge was resting on the bottom for the first maybe 5+ minutes(that time is pretty much downhill so idling motor but cruising at around 30mph with the occasional slight press of the pedal) Then started rising and within 15 minutes which is about the time I hit the highway it was up to around 80-90C and stayed there for the rest of the trip. I'm assuming that it didn't get any warmer any quicker due to: A) the cold (single digits, 1F when I left) b)the wind sucking out even more of the generated heat (-10 - -20F wind chills) c) the veggie tank sucking out a decent portion of heat d)the more or less exposed heater lines that run along the bottom of the car from the engine compartment to below the rear seat leaking out heat e) the lack of a working aux coolant pump I'm sure i could replace the aux coolant pump and get a bit more heat in the cabin, but it works just fine for my needs and I imagine it would suck more heat from the veggie tank. Levi On 2/6/07, Curt Raymond [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: What'd the temp gauge for the engine read? My 190D is toasty warm within half an hour no matter how cold it is out. My 240D was as good or maybe even better... -Curt Message: 17 Date: Tue, 6 Feb 2007 06:41:46 -0500 From: Levi Smith [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: [MBZ] Cold weather To: Mercedes Discussion List Mercedes@okiebenz.com Message-ID: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Just thought I'd share some of my cold weather this morning here near Corning, NY. It was about 1F outside. Block heater was plugged in for a couple hours before starting. It wasn't that bad, but it did take a couple tries. (Not NEARLY as bad as this weekend when it was in the single digits during the day, no block heater and 2 glow plugs were out. That took a LOT of cranking.) (: Well, on my mainly 45 minute highway commute at about 70mph, by the end of the trip my veggie tank was at about 65F and the cabin temp was up to about 45F. Levi - Need Mail bonding? Go to the Yahoo! Mail QA for great tips from Yahoo! Answers users. ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] Cold weather
Oh, let's see... The veggie is T-d in at the back left of the head and then goes back to the veggie tank and then returns at a T near the alternator. So... I believe it's completely parallel, independent of the heater core(which would make sense since the heater seems to work normally. However... I can definitely see where it could be drawing off some of that initial heat that might otherwise get passed into the heater core/radiator... Levi On 2/6/07, Jim Cathey [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: within 15 minutes which is about the time I hit the highway it was up to around 80-90C and stayed there for the rest of the trip. c) the veggie tank sucking out a decent portion of heat Could be. But so long as the engine was up to temperature there was still excess heat available in the engine. d)the more or less exposed heater lines that run along the bottom of the car from the engine compartment to below the rear seat leaking out heat You could lose a lot there. e) the lack of a working aux coolant pump Usually immaterial except at near-idle conditions. How is your veg tank plumbed? In series with the heater core? Does it get the hot water first, or second? If first, for sure your cabin comfort will suffer! A carefully-rigged parallel arrangement might be better. Could need some flow adjustment valves to get the balance right so one side didn't hog it all. -- Jim ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] Wolwo safety
Well, I don't think I'd call it a myth. The fact that the car will go 300-400K miles with almost no maintenance before smoking to a halt is much preferable to an american car going 100K before smoking to a halt... I haven't dealt with enough european stuff to compare, though I know my Mercedes smokes to a start more than to a halt... (: Levi On 2/6/07, [EMAIL PROTECTED] [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: The myth of the Asian labeled cars thought to be so reliable is partially due to their drivers' inability to recognize a defect or mechanical problem until the thing smokes to a halt. Oooo, I never have to spend a penny on my Corolla, Camry or whatever RLE
Re: [MBZ] Wolwo safety
I haven't noticed any change since I got the car and that had generic not even diesel approved oil in it, then I used the Delco, then a Synthetic blend and now M1 over the course of maybe 30K miles. It only seems to be a few drops at a time, but it sure seems to add up faster than ANYTHING else I've had... Levi On 2/6/07, Allan Streib [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Levi Smith [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: Agreed. Or compared to an old Mercedes. My 83' 300D doesn't seem to use THAT much oil, (it's been on M1 15-50 for a while now) but it is VERY serious about marking it's territory anywhere that it parks. In multiple spots. I definitely don't need to worry about weeds growing under the engine in my gravel driveway. Odd. My 300D never leaked, even after I switched to Mobil-1 and used it consistently for a few years. Then the correct M1 began to be hard to find locally and I so I've been using Delo for the last couple of changes -- and now I have a couple of drops on the garage floor every morning. Allan -- 1983 300D 1966 230 ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] Block heaters
We are of similar age I imagine, I'm 30. I don't see that many plugs around here, but I have seen plugs hanging out. But I KNOW how full of crud it would get around here. I suppose the answer would be to just get some sort of cover for it... Levi On 2/5/07, Curt Raymond [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Hey Levi, How old are you? Even back when I was a kid in the '80s I remember seeing cars with the plug dangling out just above the bumper... New cords come with a cap, no snow and ice. The old one on my 240D didn't have the cap but that wasn't a problem until the other end of the cord went bad... -Curt Date: Sun, 4 Feb 2007 14:07:14 -0500 From: Levi Smith [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: [MBZ] Block heaters To: Mercedes Discussion List mercedes@okiebenz.com Message-ID: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed I tried mine on the Kill-a-watt and it seems to only be around 375 watts. What I'm curious about is if everyone is just popping the hood a couple times a day to plug/unplug, or if anyone's figured out a better way? I think I could fit the plug out at either the front or rear of the hood without pinching, but it would get full of snow and ice on the first ride on less than dry pavement... Levi - TV dinner still cooling? Check out Tonight's Picks on Yahoo! TV. ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] Oil is Killing our Cars....comments anyone?...esp. regarding Mobil 1
Speaking of M1... I was just at a couple Wal-marts and I see one of them now has a M1 10-40 for high mileage engines. What do we think of this stuff? Levi On 2/2/07, Marshall Booth [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Christopher McCann wrote: http://www.svmgcc.org/tech_tips/oil_is_killing.htm Nothing new here. The nits have been arguing about this for years. The people that seriously lubricate car and truck engines settled this and make fine oils. Mercedes warned against choosing oil based on API rating. Use a Mercedes rated oil and it will protect your engine. Marshall -- Marshall Booth Ph.D. Ass't Prof. (ret.) Univ of Pittsburgh School of Medicine [EMAIL PROTECTED] ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] Block heaters
I tried mine on the Kill-a-watt and it seems to only be around 375 watts. What I'm curious about is if everyone is just popping the hood a couple times a day to plug/unplug, or if anyone's figured out a better way? I think I could fit the plug out at either the front or rear of the hood without pinching, but it would get full of snow and ice on the first ride on less than dry pavement... Levi On 2/4/07, Steve Bailey [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Do the Mercedes block heaters have any sort of thermostatic control or are they always on when plugged in? Also, is there a chart of time required to heat up an engine based on outside temps? Steve ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
[MBZ] Cold and fuel gelling
Well, you can add my name to the list that no longer believes that they sell fuel that will remain liquid at temps in the area. I've been testing that theory this year(my first real winter in upstate NY with my 83' 300D). It made it at 5F without issue other than a slight lack of power for a few seconds a time or two. Well... This morning it was -6F. I had it plugged in overnight. Started without much issue. However, to make a long story short: -I only made it a few hundred feet down the road before it was no longer happy to just run -I found I had liquid fuel coming out of the fuel line(though I didn't realize it was quite that green. I thought I had anti-freeze coming out) -I changed both filters which seemed to be fine, but then no fuel came out after another 30 seconds So, after an hour and a half (-6F isn't bad at all after about 20 minutes of monkeying around) I realized that even if fuel is liquid in the lines, it's not necessarily in the filters and I added about 50% kerosene and a bottle of that 911 stuff. I got it well enough that it would stay running, but not well. My trip to work was of the ok, here's some power to get to around 30-40mph(I was aiming for closer to 60mph) and ok, well we're only going about 1 or 2mph(literally), but we haven't quite stalled yet and repeat. Luckily there was only one other car out there so I wasn't holding up traffic. Levi The Benz is certainly more interesting than the Subaru that I just got in and drove no matter what the conditions and without worrying about fuel. (:
[MBZ] Cold and slow wipers and speedo cable whining on 83' 300D
Oh, yeah forgot about these other cold weather things with my 83' 300D... I don't suppose there's any nice and easy common fix to wipers that get slow and sometimes even stalled at around 15F or lower?(but are fine any other time) My speedo cable is whining. I've ignored it in other cars, but this one is REALLY LOUD and sometimes goes for 20 minutes before shutting up. Is the procedure just to pull the gauges, disconnect the speedo cable and put a few drops of something like motor oil in the cable? Thanks! Levi (:
Re: [MBZ] Cold and slow wipers and speedo cable whining on 83' 300D
Duno, I've never tried to fix one to find out. I'm not exactly sure what's back there. I was thinking there was basically a metal cable in a sleeve that just inserts into the speedo and then there is a ring on the outside that screws down to hold everything tight. Where is this sleeve bearing? In the speedo? or on the end of the cable? If it's on the end of the cable, how would you otherwise lube the cable? Thanks! Levi On 1/26/07, Jim Cathey [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: My speedo cable is whining. I've ignored it in other cars, but this one is REALLY LOUD and sometimes goes for 20 minutes before shutting up. Is the procedure just to pull the gauges, disconnect the speedo cable and put a few drops of something like motor oil in the cable? I've been using M1 5W20 for this. Are you sure it's the cable and not the sleeve bearing in the head? That's usually the source of any shrieking in my experience. Same fix, but requires application in a little different location. If you let it go for very long it'll ruin the cable sleeve (or the bearing itself), rendering oil-based 'repairs' useless. -- Jim ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] Cold and fuel gelling
AHAHAHA, Biod or better yet, Veg? at -6F??? No, that stays in it's own little separate tank and only comes out after everything is nice and warm and goes away long enough before I shut down to make sure diesel is back in the lines. If regular diesel is gelling, I can't imagine just how much petrol it would take to make veggie reliably flow... I'm pretty sure my veggie tank was a solid brick this morning. (: Levi On 1/26/07, Redghost [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: If you have BioD in there or some form of VO, you need to cut it with enough petrol to dilute down so it will flow. Gump was doing the same thing on our very cold days. Got to a petrol pump and a half gallon later, and shaking the car vigorously, she was once more able to make over highway speed. YMMV Marshall will tell you this is a bad idea for a newer diesel benz On Jan 26, 2007, at 6:29 AM, Levi Smith wrote: Well, you can add my name to the list that no longer believes that they sell fuel that will remain liquid at temps in the area. I've been testing that theory this year(my first real winter in upstate NY with my 83' 300D). It made it at 5F without issue other than a slight lack of power for a few seconds a time or two. Well... This morning it was -6F. I had it plugged in overnight. Started without much issue. However, to make a long story short: -I only made it a few hundred feet down the road before it was no longer happy to just run -I found I had liquid fuel coming out of the fuel line(though I didn't realize it was quite that green. I thought I had anti-freeze coming out) -I changed both filters which seemed to be fine, but then no fuel came out after another 30 seconds So, after an hour and a half (-6F isn't bad at all after about 20 minutes of monkeying around) I realized that even if fuel is liquid in the lines, it's not necessarily in the filters and I added about 50% kerosene and a bottle of that 911 stuff. I got it well enough that it would stay running, but not well. My trip to work was of the ok, here's some power to get to around 30-40mph(I was aiming for closer to 60mph) and ok, well we're only going about 1 or 2mph(literally), but we haven't quite stalled yet and repeat. Luckily there was only one other car out there so I wasn't holding up traffic. Levi The Benz is certainly more interesting than the Subaru that I just got in and drove no matter what the conditions and without worrying about fuel. (: ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com -- Clay Seattle Bioburner 1972 220D - Gump 1995 E300D - Cleo 1987 300SDL - POS - DOA The FSM would drive a Diesel Benz ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
[MBZ] Cold Weather
Well, I've finally found that point where as Marshall describes it: Everything must be perfect for cold weather starting. I started yesterday morning at like 15F without issue. This morning it was about 5F. At that point, I have now experienced what cold weather starting is in my 83' 300D. It DID start, but it took some effort. I think I may be able to start quicker next time. NORMALLY, if it's like 20F or lower I'll let it glow for around 10-15 seconds longer than the light says, hold the pedal to the floor and crank until it starts at which point I let off the fuel proportionately as it starts speeding up to keep it at a fast idle. It won't idle on it's own for a minute or two. HOWEVER... Apparently when it gets down around 5F, I need to let OFF the fuel... My startup went like this: Glow light went off around 15 seconds. I started cranking around 25 seconds with the fuel to the floor. cranked for maybe 5-10 seconds (rather slowly) and it started to make some sounds of combustion, then started dying out again. I let it crank for maybe another 5 seconds. Decided to press my luck and try for another glow cycle. I think I let it go for like 30 seconds this time. Tried cranking again with the pedal floored and again it slighty sounded like it was going to start, then started dying again. So I took my foot off the fuel and after a couple seconds it started coming to life. It was about half running with the starter still helping for a few seconds while I tried to feed in just enough fuel to keep it running. I'm just hoping I got enough charge back in the battery on my 15 minute trip to work with the defrosters and headlights and what not on. This would NOT have been possible with an iffy battery for sure. I couldn't believe that even this new one had that sort of power in it. (and yes I have M1 15w-50 in there). So, at this point I guess I'll plan on using the block heater if it's supposed to go into single digits. and see if I can notice a difference (cause I didn't notice a difference at around 20F). The other potential problem is that for some reason when temps around somewhere below around 20F my wipers turn into EXTREMELY slow or maybe even stop. It did it the other day, but then it's been fine this week, but this morning they did need my help to actually make it back to rest. Levi
Re: [MBZ] Cold Weather
Yeah, It's supposed to be closer to 25F this afternoon and I'm hoping to get out before dark so hoping I won't need the headlights, rear defroster nor as much for starting. I'll plug in the block heater so tomorrow's single digits hopefully won't be as bad, and if nothing else it gets a nice 45 minute charge about 4 times a week. The 15 minute drives are probably about 10 times a week, but normally they're not this cold and it's enough to get the temp up to 80C. Levi On 1/17/07, Jim Cathey [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: HOWEVER... Apparently when it gets down around 5F, I need to let OFF the fuel... My startup went like this: Glow light went off around 15 seconds. I started cranking around 25 seconds with the fuel to the floor. cranked for maybe 5-10 seconds (rather slowly) and it started to make some sounds of combustion, then started dying out again. I let it crank for maybe another 5 seconds. Decided to press my luck and try for another glow cycle. I think I let it go for like 30 seconds this time. Tried cranking again with the pedal floored and again it slighty sounded like it was going to start, then started dying again. So I took my foot off the fuel and after a couple seconds it started coming to life. It was about half running with the starter still helping for a few seconds while I tried to feed in just enough fuel to keep it running. I continue to be impressed with the 200D's cold-starting ability. It must have _very_ good compression. Even at its worst it has started very easily in comparison. I'm sure the POS battery is its weakest link right now. There's no doubt the car has a no-start temperature, and that we've been pretty close to it here lately, but so far, so good... This car exhibits none of the coughing and puking of the SDL when cold-starting, and that car lives in a semi-warm garage. (It probably has air-leaky IP seals.) Of course, at home I use the block heater a lot. No sense making it any harder than I have to to start. I'm just hoping I got enough charge back in the battery on my 15 minute trip to work with the defrosters and headlights and what not on. 'Enough'? Perhaps, but certainly you didn't get a full charge back in in only that time. Not with what it sounds like you took out. Get in some longer drives, or invest in a small battery charger for occasional overnight refreshment. -- Jim ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] Cold Weather
14843 I couldn't help but notice that you didn't include your location. (: Levi On 1/17/07, andrew strasfogel [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Hey guys, as a practical matter, and because I'm a weather nut, please identify WHERE you live when discussing the cold temperatures. Andrew 24 degrees F. this AM, going into the high 30s. On 1/17/07, Levi Smith [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Yeah, It's supposed to be closer to 25F this afternoon and I'm hoping to get out before dark so hoping I won't need the headlights, rear defroster nor as much for starting. I'll plug in the block heater so tomorrow's single digits hopefully won't be as bad, and if nothing else it gets a nice 45 minute charge about 4 times a week. The 15 minute drives are probably about 10 times a week, but normally they're not this cold and it's enough to get the temp up to 80C. Levi On 1/17/07, Jim Cathey [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: HOWEVER... Apparently when it gets down around 5F, I need to let OFF the fuel... My startup went like this: Glow light went off around 15 seconds. I started cranking around 25 seconds with the fuel to the floor. cranked for maybe 5-10 seconds (rather slowly) and it started to make some sounds of combustion, then started dying out again. I let it crank for maybe another 5 seconds. Decided to press my luck and try for another glow cycle. I think I let it go for like 30 seconds this time. Tried cranking again with the pedal floored and again it slighty sounded like it was going to start, then started dying again. So I took my foot off the fuel and after a couple seconds it started coming to life. It was about half running with the starter still helping for a few seconds while I tried to feed in just enough fuel to keep it running. I continue to be impressed with the 200D's cold-starting ability. It must have _very_ good compression. Even at its worst it has started very easily in comparison. I'm sure the POS battery is its weakest link right now. There's no doubt the car has a no-start temperature, and that we've been pretty close to it here lately, but so far, so good... This car exhibits none of the coughing and puking of the SDL when cold-starting, and that car lives in a semi-warm garage. (It probably has air-leaky IP seals.) Of course, at home I use the block heater a lot. No sense making it any harder than I have to to start. I'm just hoping I got enough charge back in the battery on my 15 minute trip to work with the defrosters and headlights and what not on. 'Enough'? Perhaps, but certainly you didn't get a full charge back in in only that time. Not with what it sounds like you took out. Get in some longer drives, or invest in a small battery charger for occasional overnight refreshment. -- Jim ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] Driving safety while covered with ice
Pretty frequently around upstate NY. But they normally get pulled over by vans or the Suburbans or what not that have the equipment to dip tanks and check brakes and all that. Levi On 1/16/07, David Brodbeck [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Werner Fehlauer wrote: So how do Canadian Semi drivers keep any snow and ice from collecting on the tops of their trailers? Seems like a law against dropping mother nature's benevolence is pretty hard to justify in the real world! I've seen some pretty monster ice sheets blow off semi trailers, but I suppose it's impractical for drivers to clean them off. If Canada is like the U.S., the semi drivers probably get a pass from law enforcement anyway. When was the last time you saw a semi pulled over? ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] Mercedes Quality vs Toyota
Tell me about it. I worked in IT as a tech. They hired this lady as a tech. She literally was not good at her job and didn't know how to do most of it. She was promoted to manager. The absolute best story I heard told was from a friend who was apparently telling her about their new central vacuum they had installed at their house. The first question this manager had? What do you do when the walls get full? Priceless. Levi This thought process was made ever more present to me when during heavy layoffs they laid off approximately 1/3 of the IT technicians(you know the ones that did the work and were paid the least) and kept every single manager there. On 1/14/07, Peter Frederick [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: The US plants have American managers. If they are like the ones I have currently at my current job (major US company as a contractor), they can turn any set of parts into junk. The notion that if you know how to do it you are prohibited from managing it seems to be universal in the US -- the only thing that counts is daily cash savings. Actual knowledge appears to disqualify one to manage anything -- most of my current managers (in a materials supply industry) have degrees in Liberal Arts. Naturally, you get lousy product as a result. Peter ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] Mercedes Quality vs Toyota
It probably is. I was going to mention that she was in fact a blonde, but decided to leave it out. I guess sometimes there's a reason that stereotype exists. (: Levi On 1/15/07, andrew strasfogel [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: This misogynistic tale is probably apochryphal, sounding instead like a modified blonde joke. On 1/15/07, Levi Smith [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Tell me about it. I worked in IT as a tech. They hired this lady as a tech. She literally was not good at her job and didn't know how to do most of it. She was promoted to manager. The absolute best story I heard told was from a friend who was apparently telling her about their new central vacuum they had installed at their house. The first question this manager had? What do you do when the walls get full? Priceless. Levi This thought process was made ever more present to me when during heavy layoffs they laid off approximately 1/3 of the IT technicians(you know the ones that did the work and were paid the least) and kept every single manager there. On 1/14/07, Peter Frederick [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: The US plants have American managers. If they are like the ones I have currently at my current job (major US company as a contractor), they can turn any set of parts into junk. The notion that if you know how to do it you are prohibited from managing it seems to be universal in the US -- the only thing that counts is daily cash savings. Actual knowledge appears to disqualify one to manage anything -- most of my current managers (in a materials supply industry) have degrees in Liberal Arts. Naturally, you get lousy product as a result. Peter ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] OT Winows XP annoying click requirement
I'm not sure if there's an easier way, but you could set up AutoAdminLogon in the registry. You could probably google it. If I remember correctly it's in localmachine\microsoft\windowsnt\currentversion\winlogon you need to have that autoadminlogon key set to 1, and the defaultusername, defaultdomain and defaultpassword all set. Levi On 1/14/07, Zoltan Finks [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Does anyone know if there is a way to disable the requirement that Windows XP has that the user click on their user icon in order to get the computer to either turn on or to wake up? We upgraded from 98 to XP some months ago, and the most annoying feature is that when I turn on the computer, I am required to be there to physically move the mouse to the little frog icon and click so that the stupid thing can proceed with its startup procedure. In the past, I would hit the power button to turn the computer on, then I'd leave the room and do something else, then come back to my waiting computer ready for action. Now, with XP, I have to come back just to click on the damned frog, then go away again while it finishes the final 2/3 of its startup procedure, and then I can come back and use my computer. Any way around this? Also: Has anyone installed Virtual Earth 3D and run it successfully? It's that map/locating program, but I guess they now have a way you can see (I'm assuming fly-through photography) great new 3D views of selected cities. I tried to install it on both my desktop and my laptop, but unsuccessful. Any experiences here? Thanks Brian ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] YOU PEOPLE BEHAVE
I hear Mobil 1 make the wisdom teeth slide out easier and also doubles as a numbing agent. However it does tend to make people a bit loopy... On 1/11/07, andrew strasfogel [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Dunno which is worse: a wisdom tooth-removal thread or another endless riff on synthetic vs. real motor oils... On 1/10/07, Bob Rentfro [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I shall feel your pain a week from tomorrow...if I ever get over this wretched head cold. Bob R - Original Message - From: Kaleb C. Striplin [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: Mercedes Mailing List mercedes@okiebenz.com Sent: Wednesday, January 10, 2007 7:49 PM Subject: [MBZ] YOU PEOPLE BEHAVE Im WAY out of it at the moment, had 3 wisdom teeth pulled today. Thats a story for banned, which, I think is on banned. I am NOT reading th elist now as Im too screwed up. Keep it under control :) -- Kaleb C. Striplin/Claremore, OK (2x) 91 300D 2.5 Turbo, 90 420SEL, 89 560SEL, 87 300SDL, 85 380SE 5.0 Euro, 84 190D 2.2, 81 240D, 76 240D, 76 300D, 72 250C, 69 250 http://www.striplin.net ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] Brake pad sensor wires
Daunting? It's just a wire maybe 6 inches long with a plug on either end... Unplug dead one, plug in new one... Levi On 1/10/07, Chris Kueny [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: It seems Beevis at the tire store tore off the pad sensor wire from the brake caliper on the front of my 85 123 wagon. How have you guys delt with that? Seems like I should replace the wire, but it looks daunting. Any hints? Chris Kueny ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) 78 Chevy Custom deluxe '85 300TD '02 Subaru Outback ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] Brake pad sensor wires
Nope, it's just a little shorty. You might have to use pliers or a screwdriver to pry out the old plug(s) but that's about the extent of the difficulty. (: Levi On 1/10/07, Chris Kueny [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: That's good. I thought it snaked it's way up into the engine compartment Thanks. Chris K Cayce, SC - Original Message - From: Levi Smith [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: Mercedes Discussion List mercedes@okiebenz.com Sent: Wednesday, January 10, 2007 2:44 PM Subject: Re: [MBZ] Brake pad sensor wires Daunting? It's just a wire maybe 6 inches long with a plug on either end... Unplug dead one, plug in new one... Levi On 1/10/07, Chris Kueny [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: It seems Beevis at the tire store tore off the pad sensor wire from the brake caliper on the front of my 85 123 wagon. How have you guys delt with that? Seems like I should replace the wire, but it looks daunting. Any hints? Chris Kueny ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) 78 Chevy Custom deluxe '85 300TD '02 Subaru Outback ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] O.T. Lister Age Span
I was thinking the exact same thing when I read this, thinking how it was only a couple months ago that I was still in my twenties... (: Levi On 1/5/07, Curt Raymond [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I remember when I used to be the youngest at things, but at 30 I'm apparently an oldster... Heck when I still worked in tech support I was ANCIENT. -Curt Date: Fri, 5 Jan 2007 05:53:22 -0500 From: Sunil Hari [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: [MBZ] O.T. Lister Age Span To: Mercedes Discussion List mercedes@okiebenz.com Message-ID: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed I thought I was the youngest at 26 ... whoops. __ Do You Yahoo!? Tired of spam? Yahoo! Mail has the best spam protection around http://mail.yahoo.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] RSS feeds and Craigslist
Really Simple Syndication. Sometimes known as a News Aggregator. Check out http://reader.google.com for a web-based version. Makes it easy to keep track of headlines/articles coming from your favorite sites.(assuming they're providing RSS feeds. If you've got Firefox and you see that little yellow square with the signal in it at the right edge of your address bar then that site does) Levi On 1/5/07, andrew strasfogel [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: What is an RSS reader and why would I want to know about it? Not being flippant, just curious... On 1/5/07, Rory [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Does anyone use a RSS reader to scan the craigslist postings for Mercedes cars? If not I have a cool way of doing it through Google. Rory ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] burning used oil
Oh yeah, left that out. Definitely filter it to about 5 microns. I wouldn't just go dumping it in. (though it seems you'd just have to replace your car's filters sooners if you did). I might also have a different opinion if I had a pristine Benz that was my baby. I view my 83' 300D more of as the old tank. (: Levi On 1/3/07, Marshall Booth [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Hans Neureiter wrote: Long ago there was a discussion on how much drained engine oil (Mobil 1) is OK to put in the fueltank. I am finding it more and more difficult to drop off used oil at mac parts places. They act annoyed and let you wait. At $ 2.50+ a gallon diesel it would also cut down the initial cost of the oil. The idea of pumping used motor oil (that is sufficiently contaminated to be discarded) through the most precise piece of equipment in your car (the injection pump and system) seems insane to me. On top of that, motor oil burns hotter than diesel fuel so outside the range that the engine was optimized for. Conventional motor oil burns a bit more smoothly than Mobil 1! I've been told that the companies that make the furnaces that burn used motor oil have recommended NOT using Mobil 1 or other group IV synthetics, but I am not aware of their reasoning. Marshall -- Marshall Booth Ph.D. Ass't Prof. (ret.) Univ of Pittsburgh School of Medicine [EMAIL PROTECTED] ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
[MBZ] Gas vs. diesel prices?
Anyone heard or care to make any guesses on the price difference between gas and diesel? Am I ever going to see Diesel cheaper than gas again? Or is diesel simply going to keep it's 30-80 cent increase in price over gas? Is it because of ulsd? Levi
Re: [MBZ] Subaru to make world's first boxer turbodiesel
COOL! Now if only it were coming to the US next year for $5K got 75mpg and came in an AWD minivan... Levi (: Ahh, dreams... On 1/4/07, Alex Chamberlain [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: http://news.hspn.com/articles/793/3/Subaru-at-The-2006-Paris-Motorshow/Page3.html Alex Chamberlain '87 300D Turbo '92 Isuzu Trooper ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] speaking of ULSD
Hmm... It would be hard to argue that adding Marshall to any Mercedes could be anything but good... Levi (: On 1/4/07, TimothyPilgrim [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: As I recall he's short, but I don't think Marshall is small enough to get past the filler spout. Tim 1982 300TD 1001 300TE 4Matic -- Date: Thu, 04 Jan 2007 11:57:14 -0600 From: Kaleb C. Striplin [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: [MBZ] speaking of ULSD Last time I filled up last week was the first time I noticed the sticker saying it was the ULSD. Since we seem to be getting it now, should I be adding anything to each tank of diesel? Marshall? ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] Gas vs. diesel prices?
Exactly. It's a waste to put in premium UNLESS your manual tells you to put it in. In modern cars it probably won't cause any damage to put in lower octane than recommended but you probably won't get full performance. Levi On 1/4/07, Werner Fehlauer [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Au contrare - while most modern cars are under computer control so that when they sense knocking, they can retard the spark accordingly so that the driver thinks all is OK, the engine does NOT run as efficiently as it can. Mileage and power suffer. A car that is designed with a high compression ratio that requires fuel that has good antiknock properties will perform better and more efficiently with the proper grade fuel. Now if you're talking about additives, just about all gasoline has enough of the needed snake oil additives to keep the fuel system clean and operating as designed. Its the engine and its high compression that requires the high octane stuff. Werner - Original Message - From: Mike Canfield [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: Mercedes Discussion List mercedes@okiebenz.com Sent: Thursday, January 04, 2007 2:34 PM Subject: Re: [MBZ] Gas vs. diesel prices? Running hi grade gasoline in most modern EFI cars is a waste of money. If it runs fine without pinging on 87 then there is no reason for a higher octane. Mike ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] Trying out 0Wxx Mobil 1
Have you had a lot of batteries explode? Levi (: Still wondering if there's any hope for his Red top Optima that seems to just continually draw as much power as you put in it (sucked 5 amps for about 3 days straight before I disconnected it). On 1/2/07, Zoltan Finks [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: That's interesting about the battery. Did it not sound differently - I mean, the starter didn't audibly sound slower? Maybe it was the frog in the kettle syndrome. Encouraging that starts are possible in those temps without a block heater. My 240D seems to need glow plugs right now - wouldn't start at all last time I tried (in about 30 degree weather). Must order some plugs from Rusty. Often, on my other car, if I have the time, I'll throw my small batt. charger on and set it to boost as I crank, if it's particularly cold outside, just to sort of keep the batt. from having to work so hard as I crank for a longer time. Of course I cringe, hoping the batt. won't explode. Brian 83 240D On 1/2/07, Curt Raymond [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Until the battery went bad my 240D would start really well down to about 20F. Below that it was alot of cranking but I could get it to start all the way down to about -5F without the block heater. Once the battery went bad starts colder than say 25F were a challenge. I dunno why I had blinders on to that one. I tripple checked the glowplugs, put in some anti-gel, had the valves set again, all sorts of hokum and we were still dragging the poor thing behind the pickup truck twice a week... FINALLY I dropped $65 at Autozone and it was back to being able to start again. The old b attery just didn't have the capacity needed. -Curt ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] Trying out 0Wxx Mobil 1
I would have thought it more likely to be a spark in the vicinity during one of those charging times that caused the explosion? I wasn't aware that under normal circumstances you could blow up a battery simply by charging it... Or maybe it was possible with older batteries? Levi On 1/2/07, Zoltan Finks [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Ha. No, hopefully I'd have learned by now if I had. I've seen, or at least heard, two or three batterties explode when I worked at at service station. I think the cause was leaving them on a somewhat rapid charge for too long with the caps still on. And I think once I saw one explode from cranking the engine with the charger hooked up to it - this probably after being on the charger for a good period of time with the caps on? The bubbling noise, seeping sound, heat, and sulfer-like smell are all warning signs. But with many young men working in a busy shop with their attentions divided many ways, (some of them - not me- high on either pot or freon sucked straight out of a car's system) this can still happen. Brian On 1/2/07, Levi Smith [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Have you had a lot of batteries explode? Levi (: Still wondering if there's any hope for his Red top Optima that seems to just continually draw as much power as you put in it (sucked 5 amps for about 3 days straight before I disconnected it). On 1/2/07, Zoltan Finks [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: That's interesting about the battery. Did it not sound differently - I mean, the starter didn't audibly sound slower? Maybe it was the frog in the kettle syndrome. Encouraging that starts are possible in those temps without a block heater. My 240D seems to need glow plugs right now - wouldn't start at all last time I tried (in about 30 degree weather). Must order some plugs from Rusty. Often, on my other car, if I have the time, I'll throw my small batt. charger on and set it to boost as I crank, if it's particularly cold outside, just to sort of keep the batt. from having to work so hard as I crank for a longer time. Of course I cringe, hoping the batt. won't explode. Brian 83 240D On 1/2/07, Curt Raymond [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Until the battery went bad my 240D would start really well down to about 20F. Below that it was alot of cranking but I could get it to start all the way down to about -5F without the block heater. Once the battery went bad starts colder than say 25F were a challenge. I dunno why I had blinders on to that one. I tripple checked the glowplugs, put in some anti-gel, had the valves set again, all sorts of hokum and we were still dragging the poor thing behind the pickup truck twice a week... FINALLY I dropped $65 at Autozone and it was back to being able to start again. The old b attery just didn't have the capacity needed. -Curt ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
