[MBZ] '84 300CD
Tried starting car, glow plug light did not come on, and the starter did not engage. Checked battery, all good, Let sit for a while, tried it again, light came on, car started. Does this sound like glow plug issue, or starter solenoid? Ralph, '84 300 CD. ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
[MBZ] 1984 MB 300CD steering box
I thank everyone who replied to my request. I had a local garage do the alignment;, he checked with the company that rebuilds these units that was supplied to me from one of you. He was able to get the specs and did the alignment. I am happy to have it able to drive, but I am not 100% happy with the performance. It still has a point on the turning that feels like it is sticking, but the play in the wheel and stability on the road is great now. I will continue to seek the reason for the strange feel in the steering wheel, but am pleased to have it road worthy again. Thanks again. Ralph ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] 1984 M.B. 300CD Steering Box
when I put the cd in the drive, it just buzzes, doesn't want to download. I figured it was because my current laptop runs windows 10 and the original one I used with these CD's was probably win.7 or earlier. The DVD drive doesn't even show up in my laptop directory as running. The drive D just buzzes then slowly stops but never actually opens up on the laptop. Maybe my drive is shot, don't use it much now a days; mostly use thumb drives.. On Thu, Apr 21, 2022 at 10:50 AM Floyd Thursby via Mercedes < mercedes@okiebenz.com> wrote: > Load the CDs on your hard drive and get the index for the manual > (nervig?) and use that as the front end. > > --FT > > On 4/21/22 9:20 AM, Ralph Robertson via Mercedes wrote: > > I have 2 CD's purchased a number of years ago from M.B. that are titled > > "Factory Service Shop Manuals, 1983-2000, CD1. and CD2, that I used when > I > > had an older laptop 32Bit computer, but it doesn't seem to want to work > > with my newer Windows 10 laptop. Not sure if these would be any good for > > that information. I cannot see what all is on these now though. I > bought > > them quite a few years ago, and did review them for certain areas, but I > > haven't opened them for a. long time. > > I am checking around to see if I can find a garage that has the proper > > specs. for the alignment. > > > > Ralph > > > > > > On Thu, Apr 21, 2022 at 9:12 AM mitch--- via Mercedes< > mercedes@okiebenz.com> > > wrote: > > > >> I'm sure the specs are in the W123 manual, which several of us have on > >> CD somewhere (don't ask me where mine is, probably on a defective > >> Seagate hard drive that bricked itself ten years ago) > >> > >> One thing that stands out in my memory is you MUST use a spring tension > >> bar to toe the wheels out while adjusting toe to spec. > >> > >> ___ > >> http://www.okiebenz.com > >> > >> To search list archiveshttp://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ > >> > >> To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: > >> http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com > >> > >> > > ___ > > http://www.okiebenz.com > > > > To search list archiveshttp://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ > > > > To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: > > http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com > > > -- > --FT > ___ > http://www.okiebenz.com > > To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ > > To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: > http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com > > ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] 1984 M.B. 300CD Steering Box
I have 2 CD's purchased a number of years ago from M.B. that are titled "Factory Service Shop Manuals, 1983-2000, CD1. and CD2, that I used when I had an older laptop 32Bit computer, but it doesn't seem to want to work with my newer Windows 10 laptop. Not sure if these would be any good for that information. I cannot see what all is on these now though. I bought them quite a few years ago, and did review them for certain areas, but I haven't opened them for a. long time. I am checking around to see if I can find a garage that has the proper specs. for the alignment. Ralph On Thu, Apr 21, 2022 at 9:12 AM mitch--- via Mercedes wrote: > > I'm sure the specs are in the W123 manual, which several of us have on > CD somewhere (don't ask me where mine is, probably on a defective > Seagate hard drive that bricked itself ten years ago) > > One thing that stands out in my memory is you MUST use a spring tension > bar to toe the wheels out while adjusting toe to spec. > > ___ > http://www.okiebenz.com > > To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ > > To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: > http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com > > ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
[MBZ] 1984 M.B. 300CD Steering Box
As a follow up to my issue, I have received the rebuilt steering box, have it installed and now awaiting a front end alignment to finalize the job. The garage does alignments but does not have the necessary specs to do this job. I have checked around to find a shop that has these and can't seem to find anyone. Does anyone on here have knowledge of these particular specs that the machine requires to finish the job correctly? Apparently M.B. vehicles are the only ones that are not available to do the job. Thanks, Ralph ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] 1984 300CD Steering Box
My steering became stiff and would try to lock up when turning. The steering had started having a bit of play while driving, and I had to constantly correct it. Didn't bother me much and I just figured it was old and needed some slight adjustment, but then this locking up and stiffness set in very quickly. He analyzed all the front end linkage from the actual steering shaft and everything is fine there. After disconnecting all the items involved with the steering, this problem still persists. That left only the direct steering box intact, and the issue was still there. There are very few older style M.B.'s in my area, here in N.B., Canada, but he does have an '84/85 300C of his own, not a diesel, but hasn't run into this problem before. I doubt one would be available at a wrecking yard, but I could check. If I could find another part I am pretty sure he could get it done okay. Can these be rebuilt? Thanks. Ralph On Tue, Apr 12, 2022 at 4:38 PM Allan Streib via Mercedes < mercedes@okiebenz.com> wrote: > I would first say, if you're not doing your own work, then find a shop > that is experienced in older MB vehicles before doing any expensive repairs > (may be easier said than done depending on where you are located). > > What is the problem the mechanic diagnosed? > > > On Tue, Apr 12, 2022, at 2:08 PM, Ralph Robertson via Mercedes wrote: > > I am having a problem with my steering box, and I am looking to replace > it, > > if I can find one. The garage I have looking into my problem feels I > would > > have to replace it with either a new one or a reconditioned one; if there > > is such a thing. Would this part be available thru a normal auto parts > > store, or should I be enquiring thru a M.B. Dealer? The mechanic is not > a > > M.B specialist, and is not familiar with this part. Would it be > reasonable > > to overhaul it, or is it a replacement situation? > > > > Thanks. > > Ralph Robertson > > ___ > http://www.okiebenz.com > > To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ > > To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: > http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com > > ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
[MBZ] 1984 300CD Steering Box
I am having a problem with my steering box, and I am looking to replace it, if I can find one. The garage I have looking into my problem feels I would have to replace it with either a new one or a reconditioned one; if there is such a thing. Would this part be available thru a normal auto parts store, or should I be enquiring thru a M.B. Dealer? The mechanic is not a M.B specialist, and is not familiar with this part. Would it be reasonable to overhaul it, or is it a replacement situation? Thanks. Ralph Robertson ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] 1984 300CD Power Steering
I will get those items checked out thoroughly right away. Ralph On Sun, Apr 10, 2022 at 11:07 AM Buggered Benzmail via Mercedes < mercedes@okiebenz.com> wrote: > If the PS pump and box are working that’s the only other thing I can think > of. Ball joints too maybe, or something in the steering shaft. > > —FT > > Sent from my iPad > > > On Apr 10, 2022, at 9:59 AM, Ralph Robertson via Mercedes < > mercedes@okiebenz.com> wrote: > > > > That is very possible. Now that it is moving freely, I will quickly > have > > this done. I shouldn't have any further difficulties in the trip to the > > garage to have this done, hopefully. I never thought of that. I rarely > > use the car and rarely do have issues with this car. Thanks. > > > > Ralph > > > >> On Sun, Apr 10, 2022 at 10:45 AM Buggered Benzmail via Mercedes < > >> mercedes@okiebenz.com> wrote: > >> > >> Did your steering links get corroded from sitting? Lube time? > >> > >> —FT > >> > >> Sent from my iPad > >> > >>> On Apr 10, 2022, at 6:46 AM, Ralph Robertson via Mercedes < > >> mercedes@okiebenz.com> wrote: > >>> > >>> Today I moved my '84 300 CD out of the garage, stored for winter, and > >> the > >>> steering wheel was sticky, stiff to turn and clicked a couple of times > >> from > >>> turning left to right . Seems okay, now, but worried something might > be > >>> wrong. The fluid is not low, and it seems to be okay, but thinking it > >> may > >>> be stiffer than usual. Any ideas on what could have caused this? > Thanks > >>> Ralph '84 300CD > >>> ___ > >>> http://www.okiebenz.com > >>> > >>> To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ > >>> > >>> To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: > >>> http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com > >>> > >> > >> ___ > >> http://www.okiebenz.com > >> > >> To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ > >> > >> To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: > >> http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com > >> > >> > > ___ > > http://www.okiebenz.com > > > > To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ > > > > To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: > > http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com > > > > ___ > http://www.okiebenz.com > > To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ > > To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: > http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com > > ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] 1984 300CD Power Steering
That is very possible. Now that it is moving freely, I will quickly have this done. I shouldn't have any further difficulties in the trip to the garage to have this done, hopefully. I never thought of that. I rarely use the car and rarely do have issues with this car. Thanks. Ralph On Sun, Apr 10, 2022 at 10:45 AM Buggered Benzmail via Mercedes < mercedes@okiebenz.com> wrote: > Did your steering links get corroded from sitting? Lube time? > > —FT > > Sent from my iPad > > > On Apr 10, 2022, at 6:46 AM, Ralph Robertson via Mercedes < > mercedes@okiebenz.com> wrote: > > > > Today I moved my '84 300 CD out of the garage, stored for winter, and > the > > steering wheel was sticky, stiff to turn and clicked a couple of times > from > > turning left to right . Seems okay, now, but worried something might be > > wrong. The fluid is not low, and it seems to be okay, but thinking it > may > > be stiffer than usual. Any ideas on what could have caused this? Thanks > > Ralph '84 300CD > > ___ > > http://www.okiebenz.com > > > > To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ > > > > To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: > > http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com > > > > ___ > http://www.okiebenz.com > > To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ > > To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: > http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com > > ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
[MBZ] 1984 300CD Power Steering
Today I moved my '84 300 CD out of the garage, stored for winter, and the steering wheel was sticky, stiff to turn and clicked a couple of times from turning left to right . Seems okay, now, but worried something might be wrong. The fluid is not low, and it seems to be okay, but thinking it may be stiffer than usual. Any ideas on what could have caused this? Thanks Ralph '84 300CD ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
[MBZ] storing '84MB 300CD
I was wondering why it is important to change the oil before storing the car for the winter months. This oil has only less than 1000 miles on it, seems a waste of oil to do so. Thanks ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
[MBZ] MB 300CD, trailer hitch
I am considering installing a trailer hitch on my '84 300CD in order to move some personal luggage from my winter home in Florida back to my northern home. Are there some difficulties I should aware of in doing this? Ralph '84 300CD ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
[MBZ] Brake Fluid
Thanks for the responses. I had rec'd. info that Dot 2 and also Dot 5.1 was the correct MB recommendations, so I am asking the group what is the correct one. Also, a MB Dealer is a long way off for me, I usually go to a local parts dealer. I have had the pads checked, and all ok, however I did notice some dampness around the master cyl. and figured I will have that looked into, once I top up the reservoir with Dot 4. Thanks. Ralph ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
[MBZ] Brake Fluid
I'm trying to find out what is the best brake fluid for my '84 MB 300CD. The reservor is low. By brake llght came on, but I still have working brakes, just low. Thanks. Ralph '84 300CD ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] '87 300SDL Glow Plugs
I checked my strips using a magnifying glass and the amp. says 80. I have ordered already for 2 to be shipped and they are 100 A. Wouldn't those be better; a bit stronger? Or could that cause problems? They are cheap enough to have to re-order. I used a heavy wire as a jumper, but not planning on using the car 'till the new ones arrive. Thanks for all the advice. Ralph On Thu, Aug 1, 2019 at 11:49 AM Dan Penoff via Mercedes < mercedes@okiebenz.com> wrote: > There are a bunch of different amperages available. The rating is stamped > in the center of the fuse strip as I recall. > > -D > > > > On Aug 1, 2019, at 10:27 AM, Max Dillon via Mercedes < > mercedes@okiebenz.com> wrote: > > > > I think the six cylinders use 80 amp. > > -- > > Max Dillon > > Charleston SC > > > > On August 1, 2019 8:39:54 AM EDT, Buggered Benzmail via Mercedes < > mercedes@okiebenz.com> wrote: > >> I *think* they’re the same (20A?) but check to make sure the amperage > >> on both cars is the same. > >> > >> --FT > >> Sent from iPhone > >> > >>> On Aug 1, 2019, at 8:35 AM, Ralph Robertson via Mercedes > >> wrote: > >>> > >>> Thanks, will be sure to get a couple of extras. I also have an '84 > >> 300CD, > >>> which probably uses the same type of strip fuse. So extras will come > >> in > >>> handy. > >>> > >>> Ralph > >>> > >>> On Thu, Aug 1, 2019 at 9:13 AM Dan Penoff via Mercedes < > >>> mercedes@okiebenz.com> wrote: > >>> > >>>> Ralph, > >>>> > >>>> As you found, the strip fuses deteriorate over time and simply split > >> in > >>>> many cases. They heat up and cool as they’re used, and this thermal > >> cycling > >>>> causes them to eventually crack or split. A lot of times it’s not > >> easy to > >>>> see, so I always recommend that you remove the fuse from the screws > >> and > >>>> when you do you’ll often have them fall apart as yours did. > >>>> > >>>> It’s a good idea to have a couple of these on hand, so when you buy > >> a > >>>> replacement, get tow or three. > >>>> > >>>> -D > >>>> > >>>> > >>>> > >>>> > >>>>> On Aug 1, 2019, at 7:53 AM, Ralph Robertson via Mercedes < > >>>> mercedes@okiebenz.com> wrote: > >>>>> > >>>>> I found the relay, and the strip fuse was bent upwards, touched it > >> and it > >>>>> fell apart. Jumped the two terminals and the glow plug light came > >> on. > >>>> Made > >>>>> my connections more firm, and let the glow plugs light up for 4-5 > >> seconds > >>>>> and voila, engine started up immediately. Thank you very much. > >>>>> > >>>>> Ralph > >>>>> > >>>>> On Thu, Aug 1, 2019 at 7:52 AM Buggered Benzmail via Mercedes < > >>>>> mercedes@okiebenz.com> wrote: > >>>>> > >>>>>> Strip fuse? On GP relay which on my SDs is mounted above left > >> front > >>>> wheel > >>>>>> toward the front. You can jump it to see if that gets power to the > >> GPs > >>>> or > >>>>>> just change it, they’re like $2. > >>>>>> > >>>>>> Or the relay itself could have gone bad. If the fuse is good then > >> jump > >>>> the > >>>>>> relay and see if that works. Or you can take the cover off the > >> relay and > >>>>>> see if it closes, and manually push it closed to see if that would > >> get > >>>>>> power to the GPs if it is not working. > >>>>>> > >>>>>> --FT > >>>>>> Sent from iPhone > >>>>>> > >>>>>>> On Aug 1, 2019, at 6:14 AM, Ralph,'84TD via Mercedes < > >>>>>> mercedes@okiebenz.com> wrote: > >>>>>>> > >>>>>>> I tried starting my car this morning but my glow plug light did > >> not > >>>> come > >>>>>> on. First time in 10 yrs. owning this car. It was a very warm > >> day and > >>>>>> thought maybe in might start
Re: [MBZ] '87 300SDL Glow Plugs
Thanks, will be sure to get a couple of extras. I also have an '84 300CD, which probably uses the same type of strip fuse. So extras will come in handy. Ralph On Thu, Aug 1, 2019 at 9:13 AM Dan Penoff via Mercedes < mercedes@okiebenz.com> wrote: > Ralph, > > As you found, the strip fuses deteriorate over time and simply split in > many cases. They heat up and cool as they’re used, and this thermal cycling > causes them to eventually crack or split. A lot of times it’s not easy to > see, so I always recommend that you remove the fuse from the screws and > when you do you’ll often have them fall apart as yours did. > > It’s a good idea to have a couple of these on hand, so when you buy a > replacement, get tow or three. > > -D > > > > > > On Aug 1, 2019, at 7:53 AM, Ralph Robertson via Mercedes < > mercedes@okiebenz.com> wrote: > > > > I found the relay, and the strip fuse was bent upwards, touched it and it > > fell apart. Jumped the two terminals and the glow plug light came on. > Made > > my connections more firm, and let the glow plugs light up for 4-5 seconds > > and voila, engine started up immediately. Thank you very much. > > > > Ralph > > > > On Thu, Aug 1, 2019 at 7:52 AM Buggered Benzmail via Mercedes < > > mercedes@okiebenz.com> wrote: > > > >> Strip fuse? On GP relay which on my SDs is mounted above left front > wheel > >> toward the front. You can jump it to see if that gets power to the GPs > or > >> just change it, they’re like $2. > >> > >> Or the relay itself could have gone bad. If the fuse is good then jump > the > >> relay and see if that works. Or you can take the cover off the relay and > >> see if it closes, and manually push it closed to see if that would get > >> power to the GPs if it is not working. > >> > >> --FT > >> Sent from iPhone > >> > >>> On Aug 1, 2019, at 6:14 AM, Ralph,'84TD via Mercedes < > >> mercedes@okiebenz.com> wrote: > >>> > >>> I tried starting my car this morning but my glow plug light did not > come > >> on. First time in 10 yrs. owning this car. It was a very warm day and > >> thought maybe in might start without the glow plugs. No go! Looked in > the > >> fuse box but could not find anything for the glow plugs. Where would I > >> find these for the glow plugs? Never had any problems thus far with glow > >> plugs, or injectors. > >>> Thanks.Ralph, '87 300 SDL > >>> ___ > >>> http://www.okiebenz.com > >>> > >>> To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ > >>> > >>> To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: > >>> http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com > >>> > >> > >> ___ > >> http://www.okiebenz.com > >> > >> To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ > >> > >> To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: > >> http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com > >> > >> > > ___ > > http://www.okiebenz.com > > > > To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ > > > > To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: > > http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com > > > > > ___ > http://www.okiebenz.com > > To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ > > To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: > http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com > > ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] '87 300SDL Glow Plugs
I found the relay, and the strip fuse was bent upwards, touched it and it fell apart. Jumped the two terminals and the glow plug light came on. Made my connections more firm, and let the glow plugs light up for 4-5 seconds and voila, engine started up immediately. Thank you very much. Ralph On Thu, Aug 1, 2019 at 7:52 AM Buggered Benzmail via Mercedes < mercedes@okiebenz.com> wrote: > Strip fuse? On GP relay which on my SDs is mounted above left front wheel > toward the front. You can jump it to see if that gets power to the GPs or > just change it, they’re like $2. > > Or the relay itself could have gone bad. If the fuse is good then jump the > relay and see if that works. Or you can take the cover off the relay and > see if it closes, and manually push it closed to see if that would get > power to the GPs if it is not working. > > --FT > Sent from iPhone > > > On Aug 1, 2019, at 6:14 AM, Ralph,'84TD via Mercedes < > mercedes@okiebenz.com> wrote: > > > > I tried starting my car this morning but my glow plug light did not come > on. First time in 10 yrs. owning this car. It was a very warm day and > thought maybe in might start without the glow plugs. No go! Looked in the > fuse box but could not find anything for the glow plugs. Where would I > find these for the glow plugs? Never had any problems thus far with glow > plugs, or injectors. > > Thanks.Ralph, '87 300 SDL > > ___ > > http://www.okiebenz.com > > > > To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ > > > > To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: > > http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com > > > > ___ > http://www.okiebenz.com > > To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ > > To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: > http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com > > ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
[MBZ] '87 300 SDL Axle Assembly
I was advised by my mechanic that I need an axle assembly. I checked around to see prices and could not find any available. If they are no longer available, can the old ones be rebuilt? Thanks. Ralph ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] 300 SDL rear wheel bearings
I haven't noticed any noise from the rear bearings, it must be just starting. What symptoms should I look for? Would the wheel have some play in it due to the bearing? Thanks. Ralph '87 300sdl On Mon, Jan 18, 2016 at 5:22 PM, Kaleb C. Striplin via Mercedes < mercedes@okiebenz.com> wrote: > No > > Sent from my iPhone > > > On Jan 18, 2016, at 3:32 PM, Ralph Robertson via Mercedes < > mercedes@okiebenz.com> wrote: > > > > I had my wheels balanced today and the garage told me one of the rear > wheel > > bearings had some movement in it. These rear bearings are adjustable, > > right? > > > > Thanks. > > Ralph '87 300SDL > > ___ > > http://www.okiebenz.com > > > > To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ > > > > To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: > > http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com > > > > ___ > http://www.okiebenz.com > > To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ > > To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: > http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com > > ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
[MBZ] 300 SDL rear wheel bearings
I had my wheels balanced today and the garage told me one of the rear wheel bearings had some movement in it. These rear bearings are adjustable, right? Thanks. Ralph '87 300SDL ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] 300 SDL Front Transmssion Pump leaking
Thanks, I appreciate all the help I can get. Will be talking with him today and passing on the constructive advice. Ralph On Fri, Jul 10, 2015 at 12:22 AM, Jim Cathey via Mercedes mercedes@okiebenz.com wrote: Wow, I sure didn't expect that; being called an idiot! If you were doing your own wrenching, I apologize. If you were using a 'trained' mechanic, then HE is the idiot! It was explained to me, back when my tranny needed servicing, that IF you take it out you ALWAYS replace those then-easy seals, because the parts and incremental labor are cheap. And you _don't_ want to have to pull it again the next year. Or month. After all, if one is already leaking the others may not be far behind. The rear seal can be done in-car, so there's no need to do that one unless it _is_ leaking. He didn't seem to know how the pump could be removed. If I recall correctly, and yours is anything like mine, it's four bolts right on the front. -- Jim ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
[MBZ] 300 SDL Front Transmssion Pump leaking
I have transmission fluid leaking from my '87 300 SDL, had a garage check this out and they identified it was the Torque Converter leaking. Replaced the seal in the converter, now they state the front trans. pump is leaking. What are they up against Thanks, Ralph, ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] 300 SDL Front Transmssion Pump leaking
Wow, I sure didn't expect that; being called an idiot! Sorry I don't have the experience that you have, but thanks anyway for the nice advice. Ralph On Thu, Jul 9, 2015 at 10:38 AM, Jim Cathey via Mercedes mercedes@okiebenz.com wrote: I have transmission fluid leaking from my '87 300 SDL, had a garage check this out and they identified it was the Torque Converter leaking. Replaced the seal in the converter, now they state the front trans. pump is leaking. What are they up against Thanks, Ralph, Idiocy? It's more-or-less SOP, when dropping the tranny to replace a seal, to do all the ones that are now easy to reach. Front seal, pump seal, etc. Maybe even consider engine's rear main seal at that time. They're all staring right at you at that point. -- Jim ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] 300 SDL Front Transmssion Pump leaking
I did misunderstand the comment, sorry about that. I don't have mercedes mechanics in my area, and the M.B. dealer has told me that their staff are younger then my car, so that about did it for me with the M.B. dealer doing my work. I have found a Volvo mechanic that does a good job for me but he isn't an M.B. expert, by no means, but he does his best. I work with what I have available here. When I am in Florida for the winter months, I have lots of M.B. talent available, but not here in N.B. Canada. My mechanic here is researching what is involved with replacing the seal for this front pump in the transmission, so any advice would help. I know the M.B. transmissions are complicated and I am trying to assist him in this job. Thanks for any help. Ralph On Thu, Jul 9, 2015 at 4:59 PM, Dan Penoff via Mercedes mercedes@okiebenz.com wrote: Ralph, I think he was referring to the mechanic. If you're dropping the transmission, which one would have to do in order to check the TC, you would also expect to closely inspect the front (pump) cover as its exposed and easy to reach at that time. If there's the slightest hint of seepage/leakage, one would expect to replace the pump gaskets and seals. It's a quick, easy and inexpensive jib to do under those circumstances. I would be looking for another mechanic. Dan Sent from my iPad On Jul 9, 2015, at 3:57 PM, Ralph Robertson via Mercedes mercedes@okiebenz.com wrote: Wow, I sure didn't expect that; being called an idiot! Sorry I don't have the experience that you have, but thanks anyway for the nice advice. Ralph On Thu, Jul 9, 2015 at 10:38 AM, Jim Cathey via Mercedes mercedes@okiebenz.com wrote: I have transmission fluid leaking from my '87 300 SDL, had a garage check this out and they identified it was the Torque Converter leaking. Replaced the seal in the converter, now they state the front trans. pump is leaking. What are they up against Thanks, Ralph, Idiocy? It's more-or-less SOP, when dropping the tranny to replace a seal, to do all the ones that are now easy to reach. Front seal, pump seal, etc. Maybe even consider engine's rear main seal at that time. They're all staring right at you at that point. -- Jim ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] 300 SDL Front Transmssion Pump leaking
He called me and said that the front pump was leaking but he did not know how much of a job it would be to replace. He was going to do some research and see what was involved. I said I would check with the discussion group and see if I could get any help for him. He didn't seem to know how the pump could be removed. Thanks. Ralph On Thu, Jul 9, 2015 at 6:03 PM, Curt Raymond via Mercedes mercedes@okiebenz.com wrote: Its a transmission, it shouldn't be any harder than working on any other transmission. When I first got into MB's back in 2002 I was convinced they were some kind of magic. Untrue, they're just cars and work like other cars. Higher quality parts produced (originally anyway) to a higher standard) but just cars. -Curt From: Ralph Robertson via Mercedes mercedes@okiebenz.com To: Mercedes Discussion List mercedes@okiebenz.com Cc: Ralph Robertson rare...@gmail.com Sent: Thursday, July 9, 2015 5:57 PM Subject: Re: [MBZ] 300 SDL Front Transmssion Pump leaking I did misunderstand the comment, sorry about that. I don't have mercedes mechanics in my area, and the M.B. dealer has told me that their staff are younger then my car, so that about did it for me with the M.B. dealer doing my work. I have found a Volvo mechanic that does a good job for me but he isn't an M.B. expert, by no means, but he does his best. I work with what I have available here. When I am in Florida for the winter months, I have lots of M.B. talent available, but not here in N.B. Canada. My mechanic here is researching what is involved with replacing the seal for this front pump in the transmission, so any advice would help. I know the M.B. transmissions are complicated and I am trying to assist him in this job. Thanks for any help. Ralph On Thu, Jul 9, 2015 at 4:59 PM, Dan Penoff via Mercedes mercedes@okiebenz.com wrote: Ralph, I think he was referring to the mechanic. If you're dropping the transmission, which one would have to do in order to check the TC, you would also expect to closely inspect the front (pump) cover as its exposed and easy to reach at that time. If there's the slightest hint of seepage/leakage, one would expect to replace the pump gaskets and seals. It's a quick, easy and inexpensive jib to do under those circumstances. I would be looking for another mechanic. Dan Sent from my iPad On Jul 9, 2015, at 3:57 PM, Ralph Robertson via Mercedes mercedes@okiebenz.com wrote: Wow, I sure didn't expect that; being called an idiot! Sorry I don't have the experience that you have, but thanks anyway for the nice advice. Ralph On Thu, Jul 9, 2015 at 10:38 AM, Jim Cathey via Mercedes mercedes@okiebenz.com wrote: I have transmission fluid leaking from my '87 300 SDL, had a garage check this out and they identified it was the Torque Converter leaking. Replaced the seal in the converter, now they state the front trans. pump is leaking. What are they up against Thanks, Ralph, Idiocy? It's more-or-less SOP, when dropping the tranny to replace a seal, to do all the ones that are now easy to reach. Front seal, pump seal, etc. Maybe even consider engine's rear main seal at that time. They're all staring right at you at that point. -- Jim ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
[MBZ] 84 300CD, Power Steering Level
A simple question, I think; I read about the level for my power steering pump which stated, in the tank of the pump, there is a plastic sleeve with arrows on it that point downwards, the level should be at the point of the arrows. The sleeve in my pump tank has the arrows pointing upwards! What should be the correct level for the fluid, and is the level of the fluid as an important point as with the Auto Tranny? Thanks. Ralph - '84 300CD '87 300SDL ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] SSL Pahtz Cahr.
Where is this located? How do I contact this person? Ralph On Sat, Apr 4, 2015 at 6:33 PM, Fred Moir fredh.s...@hotmail.com wrote: Salve.I picked up some manuals and CDs from the guy, John, who advertised the injection tester etc. on Craigslist.I looked at the car and it is bent, however it has a good 603 engine and the trans shifts smoothly (his words).He said that it could be had for $300.Any one need a 603.961 with a 14 head and trans and bits and bobs and other stuff? Fred Moir.Lynn MA.Diesel preferred. ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
[MBZ] Switching differential in 300SDL
I was led to believe that a bearing noise I was hearing in my 87 300SDL was a problem in my differential. I changed this item with a verified low mileage differential from another 87 300SDL. After the switch I now have a severe vibration in the drive train. Any idea what could have caused this? Ralph, '87 300 SDL ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] Switching differential in 300SDL
I specifically asked if they had taken the driveshaft apart and he said they would have just put it to one side, out of the way while they worked on the differential. Ralph On Sun, Mar 29, 2015 at 10:42 AM, Kaleb C. Striplin ka...@striplin.net wrote: Did they by chance separate the driveshaft? Sent from my iPhone On Mar 29, 2015, at 7:08 AM, Ralph Robertson rare...@gmail.com wrote: I was led to believe that a bearing noise I was hearing in my 87 300SDL was a problem in my differential. I changed this item with a verified low mileage differential from another 87 300SDL. After the switch I now have a severe vibration in the drive train. Any idea what could have caused this? Ralph, '87 300 SDL ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] '87 300 SDL Differential
My concern is getting the correct unit for my car. I understand the differential differs between gas diesel, both in length and gear ratios. Perhaps getting the vin off the used part first would provide this information, if it is available. Ralph On Tue, Mar 17, 2015 at 3:56 PM, Dan Penoff via Mercedes mercedes@okiebenz.com wrote: Try a local LKQ outlet, as they do a lot of national stuff for the insurance companies. Dan Sent from my iPad On Mar 17, 2015, at 3:28 PM, Ralph Robertson rare...@gmail.com wrote: That is going to me my choice, providing I can find one. I am currently looking. Ralph On Tue, Mar 17, 2015 at 2:13 PM, Dan Penoff via Mercedes mercedes@okiebenz.com wrote: Ralph, Swapping a good used pumpkin is far better than rebuilding, which is an art form that few can master. It's also quicker and probably cheaper. I would recommend swapping with a good used one. Dan Sent from my iPad On Mar 17, 2015, at 11:58 AM, Ralph Robertson via Mercedes mercedes@okiebenz.com wrote: I detected a noise I thought was coming perhaps from the front wheel bearings. Upon examination the garage informed me that the rear end was growling and it would appear it needs a rebuilding. An alternative would be to purchase a rebuilt/used differential. Which would be the best way to go with this issue? Thanks, Ralph '87 300SDL '84 300 CD ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: https://server.secureplusplusfour.net:2083/cpsess595060604/3rdparty/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: https://server.secureplusplusfour.net:2083/cpsess595060604/3rdparty/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: https://server.secureplusplusfour.net:2083/cpsess595060604/3rdparty/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: https://server.secureplusplusfour.net:2083/cpsess595060604/3rdparty/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] '87 300 SDL Differential
That is going to me my choice, providing I can find one. I am currently looking. Ralph On Tue, Mar 17, 2015 at 2:13 PM, Dan Penoff via Mercedes mercedes@okiebenz.com wrote: Ralph, Swapping a good used pumpkin is far better than rebuilding, which is an art form that few can master. It's also quicker and probably cheaper. I would recommend swapping with a good used one. Dan Sent from my iPad On Mar 17, 2015, at 11:58 AM, Ralph Robertson via Mercedes mercedes@okiebenz.com wrote: I detected a noise I thought was coming perhaps from the front wheel bearings. Upon examination the garage informed me that the rear end was growling and it would appear it needs a rebuilding. An alternative would be to purchase a rebuilt/used differential. Which would be the best way to go with this issue? Thanks, Ralph '87 300SDL '84 300 CD ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: https://server.secureplusplusfour.net:2083/cpsess595060604/3rdparty/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: https://server.secureplusplusfour.net:2083/cpsess595060604/3rdparty/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: https://server.secureplusplusfour.net:2083/cpsess595060604/3rdparty/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
[MBZ] '87 300 SDL Differential
I detected a noise I thought was coming perhaps from the front wheel bearings. Upon examination the garage informed me that the rear end was growling and it would appear it needs a rebuilding. An alternative would be to purchase a rebuilt/used differential. Which would be the best way to go with this issue? Thanks, Ralph '87 300SDL '84 300 CD ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: https://server.secureplusplusfour.net:2083/cpsess595060604/3rdparty/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
[MBZ] '87 300SDL transmission shifting
My 300SDL transmission shifts very nicely thru all the gears, however, when putting the car in gear originally from neutral it goes into gear rather harsh, also, when I put the car into reverse; the same thing. Quite a difference in shifting from the normal forward gears shifting on the go. Can this be addressed thru some adjustment? Thanks. Ralph '87 300SDL 84 300CD ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com All posts are the result of individual contributors and as such, those individuals are responsible for the content of the post. The list owner has no control over the content of the messages of each contributor.
Re: [MBZ] '87 300SDL transmission shifting
Just checked the idle speed; 6500/7000 at start up. The lurch is really in the reverse gear, first gear is not very hard at all, just the reverse. The reverse also takes a bit to engage, slower than first gear. Ralph On Fri, Oct 17, 2014 at 9:54 AM, Jim Cathey jim.cathey...@gmail.com wrote: My 300SDL transmission shifts very nicely thru all the gears, however, when putting the car in gear originally from neutral it goes into gear rather harsh, also, when I put the car into reverse; the same thing. Idle speed? The SDL is set to idle high, mechanically. The EDS is what drags it down to 'normal'. Any problem with the wiring, or the actuator, or the power supply through the overvoltage protection relay/crowbar and it idles high, and lurches into gear. -- Jim ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com All posts are the result of individual contributors and as such, those individuals are responsible for the content of the post. The list owner has no control over the content of the messages of each contributor.
Re: [MBZ] '87 300SDL transmission shifting
what is the normal idle speed? I will check again when it's warm. It doesn't sound like a fast idle. On Fri, Oct 17, 2014 at 4:45 PM, Randy Bennell rbenn...@bennell.ca wrote: H - no wonder it lurches - 7000 RPM idle - RB On 17/10/2014 3:40 PM, Ralph Robertson via Mercedes wrote: Just checked the idle speed; 6500/7000 at start up. The lurch is really in the reverse gear, first gear is not very hard at all, just the reverse. The reverse also takes a bit to engage, slower than first gear. Ralph On Fri, Oct 17, 2014 at 9:54 AM, Jim Cathey jim.cathey...@gmail.com wrote: My 300SDL transmission shifts very nicely thru all the gears, however, when putting the car in gear originally from neutral it goes into gear rather harsh, also, when I put the car into reverse; the same thing. Idle speed? The SDL is set to idle high, mechanically. The EDS is what drags it down to 'normal'. Any problem with the wiring, or the actuator, or the power supply through the overvoltage protection relay/crowbar and it idles high, and lurches into gear. -- Jim ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com All posts are the result of individual contributors and as such, those individuals are responsible for the content of the post. The list owner has no control over the content of the messages of each contributor.
Re: [MBZ] '87 300SDL transmission shifting
sorry, reading it wrong, it is 700, not 7000. Ralph On Fri, Oct 17, 2014 at 4:48 PM, Ralph Robertson rare...@gmail.com wrote: what is the normal idle speed? I will check again when it's warm. It doesn't sound like a fast idle. On Fri, Oct 17, 2014 at 4:45 PM, Randy Bennell rbenn...@bennell.ca wrote: H - no wonder it lurches - 7000 RPM idle - RB On 17/10/2014 3:40 PM, Ralph Robertson via Mercedes wrote: Just checked the idle speed; 6500/7000 at start up. The lurch is really in the reverse gear, first gear is not very hard at all, just the reverse. The reverse also takes a bit to engage, slower than first gear. Ralph On Fri, Oct 17, 2014 at 9:54 AM, Jim Cathey jim.cathey...@gmail.com wrote: My 300SDL transmission shifts very nicely thru all the gears, however, when putting the car in gear originally from neutral it goes into gear rather harsh, also, when I put the car into reverse; the same thing. Idle speed? The SDL is set to idle high, mechanically. The EDS is what drags it down to 'normal'. Any problem with the wiring, or the actuator, or the power supply through the overvoltage protection relay/crowbar and it idles high, and lurches into gear. -- Jim ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com All posts are the result of individual contributors and as such, those individuals are responsible for the content of the post. The list owner has no control over the content of the messages of each contributor.
Re: [MBZ] '87 300SDL transmission shifting
Yes, 650 -700 cold. Is that unusual? Ralph On Fri, Oct 17, 2014 at 4:55 PM, WILTON wilt...@nc.rr.com wrote: 700? Wilton - Original Message - From: Ralph Robertson via Mercedes mercedes@okiebenz.com To: Randy Bennell rbenn...@bennell.ca Cc: Mercedes Discussion List mercedes@okiebenz.com Sent: Friday, October 17, 2014 4:48 PM Subject: Re: [MBZ] '87 300SDL transmission shifting what is the normal idle speed? I will check again when it's warm. It doesn't sound like a fast idle. On Fri, Oct 17, 2014 at 4:45 PM, Randy Bennell rbenn...@bennell.ca wrote: H - no wonder it lurches - 7000 RPM idle - RB On 17/10/2014 3:40 PM, Ralph Robertson via Mercedes wrote: Just checked the idle speed; 6500/7000 at start up. The lurch is really in the reverse gear, first gear is not very hard at all, just the reverse. The reverse also takes a bit to engage, slower than first gear. Ralph On Fri, Oct 17, 2014 at 9:54 AM, Jim Cathey jim.cathey...@gmail.com wrote: My 300SDL transmission shifts very nicely thru all the gears, however, when putting the car in gear originally from neutral it goes into gear rather harsh, also, when I put the car into reverse; the same thing. Idle speed? The SDL is set to idle high, mechanically. The EDS is what drags it down to 'normal'. Any problem with the wiring, or the actuator, or the power supply through the overvoltage protection relay/crowbar and it idles high, and lurches into gear. -- Jim ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com All posts are the result of individual contributors and as such, those individuals are responsible for the content of the post. The list owner has no control over the content of the messages of each contributor. ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com All posts are the result of individual contributors and as such, those individuals are responsible for the content of the post. The list owner has no control over the content of the messages of each contributor.
[MBZ] Fwd: '84 300CD Auto Transmission leaking
-- Forwarded message -- From: Ralph Robertson rare...@gmail.com Date: Thu, Aug 28, 2014 at 6:37 AM Subject: '84 300CD Auto Transmission leaking To: merce...@mercedesmailinglist.com I am planning on flushing and replacing the ATF and filter on my 300CD and was wondering if changing the leaking seal(s) at the same time would be a good thing to do. Is this a complicated exercise and should only be done by a transmission specialist, or could it be done by the same mechanic doing the flushing, etc. I have noticed the trans. shifting roughly lately and figured an ATF change and flush would correct this, and the trans. has leaked slightly for a long time and that would be good to fix at the same time. Thanks. Ralph '84 300CD '87 300SDL ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com All posts are the result of individual contributors and as such, those individuals are responsible for the content of the post. The list owner has no control over the content of the messages of each contributor.
[MBZ] headlight brightness, 123 126
I have a '84 300CD and a '87 300SDL and both vehicles' lights are not bright enough for night driving especially on back roads. I have tried upgrading the bulbs for brighter ones, but nothing yet is satisfactory. Any suggestions for making these safer? Thanks. Ralph ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com All posts are the result of individual contributors and as such, those individuals are responsible for the content of the post. The list owner has no control over the content of the messages of each contributor.
Re: [MBZ] central locking system - '87 300SDL
My problem seems to be much more of an electrical issue than just the locking vacuum pump. I replaced the pump with a used one but the fuse blew again. Then disconnected the electrical antennae, but it blew again. Then I did the same with the trunk light, and the front overhead lights, but in time the fuse kept blowing. It is strange in that I seem to be able to replace the fuse, everything works fine for quite a while, then it just pops again. Occasionally it blows when I replace it like in a direct short situation; if I leave it alone for a while, then replace the fuse, it will work again for several weeks at a time, before it will blow again for no apparent reason. It is like there is a direct short somewhere and it only blows when the timing is right, like a bare wire touching occasionally. When the fuse does pop, I can tell, as the red lights over the rear view mirror for the seat belts will continually blink on and off when I am driving. And of course the ant. won't go up or down and the central locking system won't work. I'm at a loss with this one. Ralph '87 300SDL '84 300CD On Wed, Feb 26, 2014 at 10:10 AM, Ralph Robertson rare...@gmail.com wrote: My central locking system blew a fuse and I have to manually open a door, with the key, and pull up the lock buttons to open them, and reverse, to lock the car. When I try to replace the fuse, the alarm sounds until I remove the fuse again. How can I replace the fuse without driving everybody nuts with the horn blowing? I tried even removing the actual horn fuse, but the alarm went off anyway. Ralph '87 300SDL ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com All posts are the result of individual contributors and as such, those individuals are responsible for the content of the post. The list owner has no control over the content of the messages of each contributor.
Re: [MBZ] central locking system - '87 300SDL
Re the interior lights, I had put the switch for the interior lights in the off position so that NO interior lights would come on when the doors were opened, and they have been that way for about 3 months. In the meantime the fuse has blown about 10 times. Could it still be the timer relay? I will remove the troublesome fuse right away before anything worse happens. I will also explore the other suggestions to see if I can find any bare wires. Thanks. Ralph On Sat, Jul 12, 2014 at 9:31 AM, Peter Frederick psf...@earthlink.net wrote: No, the timer relay for the interior lights is bad. Probably sucks the battery flat if the car isn't run daily as well. Also check the wiring for the trunk light, it's notorious for rubbing through at the deck lid hinge and intermittenly shorting out. Don't keep sticking fuses in, the wiring is going to melt sooner or later and turn a simple job into a real mess -- we did this on my brother's SDL a few years ago. Had to pull the rear seat and a bunch of trim panels to get to the wiring harness and replace a bunch of wires that were now shorted together after the insulation melted. Peter ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com All posts are the result of individual contributors and as such, those individuals are responsible for the content of the post. The list owner has no control over the content of the messages of each contributor. ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com All posts are the result of individual contributors and as such, those individuals are responsible for the content of the post. The list owner has no control over the content of the messages of each contributor.
Re: [MBZ] central locking system - '87 300SDL
Okay, that does sound like a likely source. Where do I find the timer relay and how much of a problem is replacing it? Thanks. Ralph On Sat, Jul 12, 2014 at 1:49 PM, Peter Frederick psf...@earthlink.net wrote: The switch turns off the lights at the lamp, the relay is still operating, as is the locking pump. The relay also operates the seat belt reminder lamps, which is why I suspect it's bad. Peter ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com All posts are the result of individual contributors and as such, those individuals are responsible for the content of the post. The list owner has no control over the content of the messages of each contributor. ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com All posts are the result of individual contributors and as such, those individuals are responsible for the content of the post. The list owner has no control over the content of the messages of each contributor.
Re: [MBZ] '87 300SDL Transmission
This M1 ATF, I take is Mobil 1 ATF? Is there a specific no. to ask for? I will try that first with a complete change, flush and filter change. Thanks. Ralph On Tue, Jul 1, 2014 at 11:11 AM, Meade Dillon dillonm...@gmail.com wrote: When I bought my '87 300TD, it shifted very poorly, usually late. About 10k miles after changing fluid/filter and using M1, the transmission shifted much much better. The shift points were far more consistent. I then adjusted the Bowden cable, and it was nearly perfect. Max Dillon, Charleston SC On Jul 1, 2014 10:57 AM, Dwight Giles dwight.gi...@gmail.com wrote: Yes. Fred recommended that for my 300CD I did that after a couple thousand miles the flaring has subsided up shifts are smoother. I was not being facetious in my earlier post about M1 ATF. ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com All posts are the result of individual contributors and as such, those individuals are responsible for the content of the post. The list owner has no control over the content of the messages of each contributor. ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com All posts are the result of individual contributors and as such, those individuals are responsible for the content of the post. The list owner has no control over the content of the messages of each contributor.
[MBZ] '87 300SDL Transmission
Noticed a possible problem with my '87 SDL transmission yesterday. Slowed down for a yield sign and slowed to about 15-20mph and then proceeded to drive away, but the car acted like it was in neutral. Several seconds it did nothing but rev up without engaging. Shifted down to drive 3 and it went into gear, then I put the lever back to drive and it was back to normal. Only did it once. Checked fluid, all okay! Any idea what this may be? Ralph '84 300CD '87 300SDL ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com All posts are the result of individual contributors and as such, those individuals are responsible for the content of the post. The list owner has no control over the content of the messages of each contributor.
[MBZ] '87300SDL vibration
Have tired everything to locate vibration, would a garage that had a dynamometer be able to duplicate the vibration and locate where it is coming from? If so, does anyone know of such a garage in central Florida? Ralph '87 300SDL '84 300CD ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com All posts are the result of individual contributors and as such, those individuals are responsible for the content of the post. The list owner has no control over the content of the messages of each contributor.
Re: [MBZ] central locking system - '87 300SDL
Hi all, as a follow up to the above subject, I had the driver's door lock repaired, and it still is quite sticky and looks like it requires a new cylinder as the tumblers seem worn. However, today my fuse that controls the central locking system, blew again, and I could not replace it as it just popped again. Therefore there is an obvious short somewhere. Anyone have any ideas where I would look for this issue?? Thanks, Ralph, '87 300SDL '84 300CD On Fri, Feb 28, 2014 at 3:53 PM, Ralph Robertson rare...@gmail.com wrote: Thanks, I was able to re-boot the system doing the fuse replacement procedure and then unlocking and re-locking the door. I had to go to a deserted area to avoid driving everyone crazy with the alarm, but it worked and I didn't have to disconnect the alarm box. However, there are 3 boxes, as I previously said, one Becker and 2 Bosch. The Becker is on the left side and the 2 Bosch are on the right. One of them larger then the other, but I don't know which one is for the alarm, nor do I know what the remaining one is for. It would just be nice to know which one is the alarm, at this point. Ralph On Fri, Feb 28, 2014 at 1:54 PM, Dieselhead 126die...@gmail.com wrote: Hi and thanks for the replies. I checked out the alarm boxes under the passenger side and there are 3 boxes there. One is a Becker's, and 2 Bosch. Which is for the alarm? There is a warning not to mess with the red plug as it is the airbag control and may cause harm! Thanks. Ralph, '87 300SDL You can rule out the Becker. You can rule out the airbag one. the one that is left is the alarm. ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
[MBZ] A/C air filter, 126 model
Is there an air conditioner, air (dust) filter, for the '87 300SDL, A/C system? I have some type of sponge particles coming out of the dash air vent, but I cannot find where a filter might be a part of this vehicle's A/C. system. It appears that in the 124, 1984-1995 vehicles, there is a filter replacement available, but not for the 126. Ralph '87 300SDL ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] central locking system - '87 300SDL
Hi and thanks for the replies. I checked out the alarm boxes under the passenger side and there are 3 boxes there. One is a Becker's, and 2 Bosch. Which is for the alarm? There is a warning not to mess with the red plug as it is the airbag control and may cause harm! Thanks. Ralph, '87 300SDL On Wed, Feb 26, 2014 at 8:51 PM, Dieselhead 126die...@gmail.com wrote: My central locking system blew a fuse and I have to manually open a door, with the key, and pull up the lock buttons to open them, and reverse, to lock the car. When I try to replace the fuse, the alarm sounds until I remove the fuse again. How can I replace the fuse without driving everybody nuts with the horn blowing? I tried even removing the actual horn fuse, but the alarm went off anyway. Ralph '87 300SDL ___ Put the fuse in and let er rip. (the alarm system) Lock the driver's door, then unlock the driver's door. that should shut off the alarm. If the alarm is still squawking after that, then you might want to pull the fuse, unplug the alarm brain (passenger side right side panel in front of the RF door) then put the fuse back in. ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] central locking system - '87 300SDL
Thanks, I was able to re-boot the system doing the fuse replacement procedure and then unlocking and re-locking the door. I had to go to a deserted area to avoid driving everyone crazy with the alarm, but it worked and I didn't have to disconnect the alarm box. However, there are 3 boxes, as I previously said, one Becker and 2 Bosch. The Becker is on the left side and the 2 Bosch are on the right. One of them larger then the other, but I don't know which one is for the alarm, nor do I know what the remaining one is for. It would just be nice to know which one is the alarm, at this point. Ralph On Fri, Feb 28, 2014 at 1:54 PM, Dieselhead 126die...@gmail.com wrote: Hi and thanks for the replies. I checked out the alarm boxes under the passenger side and there are 3 boxes there. One is a Becker's, and 2 Bosch. Which is for the alarm? There is a warning not to mess with the red plug as it is the airbag control and may cause harm! Thanks. Ralph, '87 300SDL You can rule out the Becker. You can rule out the airbag one. the one that is left is the alarm. ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
[MBZ] central locking system - '87 300SDL
My central locking system blew a fuse and I have to manually open a door, with the key, and pull up the lock buttons to open them, and reverse, to lock the car. When I try to replace the fuse, the alarm sounds until I remove the fuse again. How can I replace the fuse without driving everybody nuts with the horn blowing? I tried even removing the actual horn fuse, but the alarm went off anyway. Ralph '87 300SDL ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
[MBZ] 300SDL Door locking system
I noticed this morning that my driver's door no longer will lock the car. The key just moves to the right without any action. The trunk lock will still lock and unlock the car though. I can unlock the driver's door with the key, but cannot lock it again. I have to go to the trunk, unlock all the car's doors, then relock again at the trunk, for the car to be locked. The passenger door still works fine for all the locks. The vacuum pump still kicks in when I lock and unlock the car. The fuses are all okay Is this just a connection inside the driver's door? Thanks. Ralph '87 300 SDL ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] Ever have a driveshaft snap in half?
I will get the front end checked over again for wear, etc. and hope for the best. The front rotors have been turned a few years ago, but not replaced. That could be the culprit. Will do that as well. Thanks for all the advice. Ralph '87 300SDL '84 300 CD On Fri, Dec 20, 2013 at 5:34 AM, John Reames jwrea...@comcast.net wrote: Could be a bad rotor; I had some that looked fine but was a layer of good metal over a sheet of rust... -- John W Reames jream...@verizon.net Home: +14106646986 Mobile: +14437915905 On Dec 17, 2013, at 10:32, Mitch Haley m...@voyager.net wrote: Ralph Robertson wrote: still shakes the steering wheel at speeds above 55mph, very smooth below this speed. Could be a loose wheel bearing, steering component, or front suspension component. But first, swap the front and rear wheels and see what happens. Mitch. ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] 300SDL Door locking system
When I turn the key to lock the driver's door, it seems like it is turning without contacting anything else. If the car is locked, via the trunk, then the key will unlock the driver's door, but none of the other doors. I have to use either the passenger door to unlock the rest of the car, or the trunk. It also does not activate the vacuum that is in the trunk. If I either unlock or lock the car via either the passenger door, or the trunk, then the central locking system works and the vacuum pump kicks in. Raph On Sat, Dec 21, 2013 at 9:16 AM, Dan Penoff d...@penoff.com wrote: Ralph, Clarify something if you would: Are you saying turning the driver's door lock with the key doesn't mechanically lock/unlock the door, or the mechanical part works but the central locking system doesn't respond? Dan On Dec 21, 2013, at 8:28 AM, Ralph Robertson wrote: I noticed this morning that my driver's door no longer will lock the car. The key just moves to the right without any action. The trunk lock will still lock and unlock the car though. I can unlock the driver's door with the key, but cannot lock it again. I have to go to the trunk, unlock all the car's doors, then relock again at the trunk, for the car to be locked. The passenger door still works fine for all the locks. The vacuum pump still kicks in when I lock and unlock the car. The fuses are all okay Is this just a connection inside the driver's door? Thanks. Ralph '87 300 SDL ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] 300SDL Door locking system qa9uqavy
ok, that is the logical area where the problem exists. Probably disconnected, somehow, from the locking mechanism. Thanks, Ralph On Sat, Dec 21, 2013 at 9:18 AM, Mitch Haley m...@voyager.net wrote: Ralph Robertson wrote: Is this just a connection inside the driver's door? So everything works except locking with the key in the driver's door, and it doesn't lock the driver's door or any other door? I think you'll find the problem right on the back of the lock cylinder, or wherever the locking rod connects next. Mitch. ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] 300SDL Door locking system
Thanks for all the info. I will get at it right away and hopefully I can fix it. Ralph On Sat, Dec 21, 2013 at 11:21 AM, Jim Cathey j...@windwireless.net wrote: If there are no mechanical issues I've seen the case where the logic in the vacuum pump gets confused, and resetting it (by unplugging for awhile) brings it back to normality. But it sounds like you have a mechanical problem. -- Jim ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] Ever have a driveshaft snap in half?
This topic made me resurrect my vibration/wobble problem with my '87 300SDL. Ever since I bought this car, I have had this problem and 5 years later I still have it. I have replaced everything I can think of in the drive train and still have the shimmy. Although it seems a lot better than original, and it should be! Is there anything in the diferential that could cause this? Even had the rear half axles replaced. My latest effort, the mechanic made some adjustments to the torgue for the rear axles and suggested it may have a differential issue. Is there a possibility a previous car accident may have caused this? I am rather frustrated at this minor shimmy after putting all this money and effort into this, but it still shakes the steering wheel at speeds above 55mph, very smooth below this speed. parts addressed; rear sway bar links., rear axles, drive shaft balanced,all flex discs, s-support, rubber mounts, motor mounts,tires,wheel balances,rear springs, transmission output shaft bearing. The shake can be felt in the steering wheel, just like wheel balance. Starts around 55mph, slakens off around 60, then comes back about 65 and seems to come and go at all speeds above that. Was quite strong, but now a minor shake but still aggravating on a long trip. Tires all seem to be wearing evenly, no scalloping. The car is in such great shape I hate to change it, and would rather fix it than swap. Ralph '87 300SDL '85 300 CD On Tue, Dec 17, 2013 at 1:06 AM, OK Don okd...@gmail.com wrote: No, but I did replace a drive shaft in the '76 300D when the u-joint in the middle started making noises and was notchy. Didn't want it to break while driving ;-) On Mon, Dec 16, 2013 at 2:24 PM, dsereta...@yahoo.com wrote: My brother did. Last night. Driving back from a rental property in Worcester (Wustah). Pulling away from toll booth, most horrible scraping, grating noise I've ever heard come from a car. Took 8 hrs to get home between all the tow trucks. Some background: 89 300TE. He had front flex disk replaced a couple months ago. Mechanic said that shaft was rusted together in center and therefore couldn't be compressed enough to get new flex disk in. He had to undo motor mounts to push engine forward enough so that flex disc could fit. Guess he had it coming. -- OK Don They who can give up essential liberty to obtain a little temporary safety, deserve neither liberty nor safety. - Benjamin Franklin 1775 in this world nothing can be said to be certain, except death and taxes. - Benjamin Franklin 1789 2013 F150, 18 mpg 2012 Passat TDI DSG, 44 mpg 1957 C182A, 12 mpg - but at 150 mph! ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] Ever have a driveshaft snap in half?
One thing I neglected to mention in previous message; when the mechanic was doing his latest check, he had the car rear wheels jacked up and then put in gear and revved it up. The rear wheels could be seen moving slightly up and down and then he made some adjustments to the axle torque which he said would reduce the bounce. He also thought that this bounce could maybe be felt in the steering wheel as well. I had told him the axles were replaced and that is when he mentioned a differntial issue that would cause the axles to bounce slightly. Is this possible? I will explore further the front end issues mentioned below. Ralph On Tue, Dec 17, 2013 at 10:32 AM, Mitch Haley m...@voyager.net wrote: Ralph Robertson wrote: still shakes the steering wheel at speeds above 55mph, very smooth below this speed. Could be a loose wheel bearing, steering component, or front suspension component. But first, swap the front and rear wheels and see what happens. Mitch. ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] vibes (was: Re: Ever have a driveshaft snap in half?)
I had Michelin on the car when I bought it, and I changed to 4 new Michelin as part of numerous things trying to get rid of the shimmy. I also changed all the wheels and tires from my other M.B. with no effect. On Tue, Dec 17, 2013 at 12:26 PM, ernest breakfield erne...@backyardengineering.org wrote: tires can be out of round and/or out of true and still be balanced. these perfectly balanced tires will still give you vibes. (i once bought 5 wheels and tires off of a friends new J**p just to get the wheels, only to find that only 2 of the brand-new original low-end Goodyears on them were round and true; there was no way to put any 4 of those on the ground without getting shimmy, shakes and/or vibes.) what kind of tires did you have on there when this was first noticed? and what kind of tires do you have on there now? sounds like you already know you have at least one tire (on the rear) that's out of round; i'd suspect that since you feel the vibes in the steering wheel you also have one (or more) that's out of round and/or out of true on the front. get them up in the air and watch both the tires and the wheels while they spin to see i they even spin roundly and without any side-to-side wiggling. cheers! e On 17/Dec/13 05:47, Ralph Robertson wrote: This topic made me resurrect my vibration/wobble problem with my '87 300SDL. Ever since I bought this car, I have had this problem and 5 years later I still have it. I have replaced everything I can think of in the drive train and still have the shimmy. Although it seems a lot better than original, and it should be! Is there anything in the diferential that could cause this? Even had the rear half axles replaced. My latest effort, the mechanic made some adjustments to the torgue for the rear axles and suggested it may have a differential issue. Is there a possibility a previous car accident may have caused this? I am rather frustrated at this minor shimmy after putting all this money and effort into this, but it still shakes the steering wheel at speeds above 55mph, very smooth below this speed. parts addressed; rear sway bar links., rear axles, drive shaft balanced,all flex discs, s-support, rubber mounts, motor mounts,tires,wheel balances,rear springs, transmission output shaft bearing. The shake can be felt in the steering wheel, just like wheel balance. Starts around 55mph, slakens off around 60, then comes back about 65 and seems to come and go at all speeds above that. Was quite strong, but now a minor shake but still aggravating on a long trip. Tires all seem to be wearing evenly, no scalloping. The car is in such great shape I hate to change it, and would rather fix it than swap. Ralph '87 300SDL '85 300 CD ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] MB factoid
I got the part from Rusty, $316. and $105 for installation. The local garage doing the installation told me they could only find one in all of US and it was +1,000. I called Rusty and told the garage I can get it for them, thanks to Rusty. I still haven't figured out where it is located though. The old one when taken out looked like new, I sent it back re core charge. Ralph On Thu, Sep 12, 2013 at 12:21 PM, WILTON wilt...@nc.rr.com wrote: Ralph, what was your bill for R R of the cruise cont. amp? $300+? Wilton - Original Message - From: Ralph Robertson rare...@gmail.com To: Mercedes Discussion List mercedes@okiebenz.com Sent: Thursday, September 12, 2013 6:42 AM Subject: Re: [MBZ] MB factoid Where is it located in the '87 SDL? Looked for it everywhere, could not find it. Had a garage in Florida replace it, and they never told me where it was on the car! Sure is nice with it working again. Ralph On Wed, Sep 11, 2013 at 8:19 PM, WILTON wilt...@nc.rr.com wrote: Yes, compared to accessing the cruise amp in the SDL, the one in the 300D was VERY easily accessible - sitting up in driver seat with cold air in my face. Wilton - Original Message - From: Peter Frederick psf...@earthlink.net To: Mercedes Discussion List mercedes@okiebenz.com Sent: Wednesday, September 11, 2013 8:05 PM Subject: Re: [MBZ] MB factoid Easily accessible is a relative term. It's not bad if you are young, agile, and have eagle vision. Being well past 50, not so flexible anymore, and blind without the correct strength of bifocal or cheater unless I don't have my contacts in (at which point I can only see about six inches), that amp is a pain. Better than the evaporator I still need to put in the 87 300D though. Peter ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/http://www.okiebenz.com/**archive/ http://www.okiebenz.**com/archive/ http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.comhttp://mail.okiebenz.com/**mailman/listinfo/mercedes_**okiebenz.com http://mail.**okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/**mercedes_okiebenz.comhttp://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/http://www.okiebenz.com/**archive/ http://www.okiebenz.**com/archive/ http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.comhttp://mail.okiebenz.com/**mailman/listinfo/mercedes_**okiebenz.com http://mail.**okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/**mercedes_okiebenz.comhttp://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com __**_ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/**archive/http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/**mailman/listinfo/mercedes_**okiebenz.comhttp://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com __**_ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/**archive/http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/**mailman/listinfo/mercedes_**okiebenz.comhttp://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] MB factoid
Where is it located in the '87 SDL? Looked for it everywhere, could not find it. Had a garage in Florida replace it, and they never told me where it was on the car! Sure is nice with it working again. Ralph On Wed, Sep 11, 2013 at 8:19 PM, WILTON wilt...@nc.rr.com wrote: Yes, compared to accessing the cruise amp in the SDL, the one in the 300D was VERY easily accessible - sitting up in driver seat with cold air in my face. Wilton - Original Message - From: Peter Frederick psf...@earthlink.net To: Mercedes Discussion List mercedes@okiebenz.com Sent: Wednesday, September 11, 2013 8:05 PM Subject: Re: [MBZ] MB factoid Easily accessible is a relative term. It's not bad if you are young, agile, and have eagle vision. Being well past 50, not so flexible anymore, and blind without the correct strength of bifocal or cheater unless I don't have my contacts in (at which point I can only see about six inches), that amp is a pain. Better than the evaporator I still need to put in the 87 300D though. Peter __**_ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/**archive/http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/**mailman/listinfo/mercedes_**okiebenz.comhttp://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com __**_ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/**archive/http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/**mailman/listinfo/mercedes_**okiebenz.comhttp://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
[MBZ] '87 300SDL A/C Blowing fuses
My SDL blew 2 fuses yesterday when using the A/C/ The fan just stopped running and heat started coming in the vents. Even when I shut off the vents the heat still pours out of the defroster vents. Changed the first fuse and after another hour or so of running fine, the same thing happened. Any ideas on issue?? Ralph, '87 300SDL ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] '87 300SDL A/C Blowing fuses
Just checked out the fuse holder, there is not any distortion at all, everything looks good in there. Have another fuse working, at the moment, will hope for the best. ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] Water leaking into trunk- '87 300SDL
New seal will be ordered right away, It's worth it. Thanks . Ralph On Mon, Jul 29, 2013 at 11:46 AM, Jim Cathey j...@windwireless.net wrote: before applying a coat of the flowable silicon sealant, Use weatherstrip cement. -- Jim __**_ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/**archive/http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/**mailman/listinfo/mercedes_**okiebenz.comhttp://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] Water leaking into trunk- '87 300SDL
checked trunk seal, appeared good, however it was easily removed, and pulled out of groove without any difficulty, so it would seem that it is not sealed good enough for water. Wondering if I have to remove old glue on the rubber before applying a coat of the flowable silicon sealant, and if so, how would I remove that glue without damaging the seal/rubber. There are no cracks or tears in the rubber seal and it appears in good shape so should be able to simply re-glue and install again. Ralph On Sun, Jul 28, 2013 at 7:25 AM, Ralph Robertson rare...@gmail.com wrote: thanks, will have the seal checked carefully. The water seems to come in at the top of the trunk, right across the whole trunk. Possibly even from the ledge under the window, but it could be running from the trunk lid across to this ledge. Will check it out. Ralph On Fri, Jul 26, 2013 at 10:26 AM, Rich Thomas richthomas79td...@constructivity.net wrote: Check your trunk seal. Clean it well, make sure it is not cracked or broken where it attaches to the lip. --R On 7/26/13 10:04 AM, Ralph Robertson wrote: I have an '87 300SDL that has a peculiar leak in the trunk area. When the car is on a grade, with the trunk on the downhill and it rains hard, the trunk get wet. However, if it is on the grade with the trunk on the uphill, no water gets in regardless of how hard it rains. Does this sound familiar to any of you?? I tried putting some flowable sealant around the back window, but that did not help. Thanks Ralph '84 300CD '87 300SDL __**_ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/**archive/http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/**mailman/listinfo/mercedes_**okiebenz.comhttp://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com __**_ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/**archive/http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/**mailman/listinfo/mercedes_**okiebenz.comhttp://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] Water leaking into trunk- '87 300SDL
thanks, will have the seal checked carefully. The water seems to come in at the top of the trunk, right across the whole trunk. Possibly even from the ledge under the window, but it could be running from the trunk lid across to this ledge. Will check it out. Ralph On Fri, Jul 26, 2013 at 10:26 AM, Rich Thomas richthomas79td...@constructivity.net wrote: Check your trunk seal. Clean it well, make sure it is not cracked or broken where it attaches to the lip. --R On 7/26/13 10:04 AM, Ralph Robertson wrote: I have an '87 300SDL that has a peculiar leak in the trunk area. When the car is on a grade, with the trunk on the downhill and it rains hard, the trunk get wet. However, if it is on the grade with the trunk on the uphill, no water gets in regardless of how hard it rains. Does this sound familiar to any of you?? I tried putting some flowable sealant around the back window, but that did not help. Thanks Ralph '84 300CD '87 300SDL __**_ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/**archive/http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/**mailman/listinfo/mercedes_**okiebenz.comhttp://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com __**_ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/**archive/http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/**mailman/listinfo/mercedes_**okiebenz.comhttp://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
[MBZ] Water leaking into trunk- '87 300SDL
I have an '87 300SDL that has a peculiar leak in the trunk area. When the car is on a grade, with the trunk on the downhill and it rains hard, the trunk get wet. However, if it is on the grade with the trunk on the uphill, no water gets in regardless of how hard it rains. Does this sound familiar to any of you?? I tried putting some flowable sealant around the back window, but that did not help. Thanks Ralph '84 300CD '87 300SDL ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
[MBZ] A/C conversion fittings for R12 to R134a
I am looking for the conversion fittings for a 1984 300CD air conditioning system that was originally R12 but converted to R134a. The system was converted and filled with R134a but the garage did not put the conversion fittings on the vehicle. They filled the system by using a set of R12 valves/hoses. I now want to have the system checked and refilled but cannot locate the fittings required to allow the R134a connections to connect to the vehicle's A/C system. Can anyone provide me with a supplier where I can acquire these fittings?? This was done on my vehicle in 2007 and has worked fine since then, but now my A/C is not putting out the cold air originally obtained. Can anyone help. Thanks Ralph ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
[MBZ] Wheel Balancing -- '87 300SDL
I am having problems getting my wheels balanced on my SDL. Have had them balanced, on the car, off the car, and with road force machines, but they still become unbalanced quickly. I am assuming it is the balance as the wobble/vibration is felt in the steering wheel mostly. What else would cause this other than balancing. I recently installed a new set of Michelins as the road force balancer indicated it was the tires themselves. However after less than 1 year I again have strong indications at all speeds over 50 mph. I am currently returning from Florida and I have the car well loaded down with a lot of weight in the back seat and trunk, and was wondering if this extra weight could be a part of the problem, indicating something other than balance. Ralph, '87 300SDL '84 300CD ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
[MBZ] High speed wheel balancing
I am looking for the name of the garage near/in Leesburg, fl. that does high speed wheel balancing on the vehicle. I had the name and address of this garage a while back and have misplaced it. Can anyone help with this?? Thanks, Ralph ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
[MBZ] Squealing brakes
The rear brake pads on both of my cars; '84 300CD, and 87 300SDL squeal when stopping. Not always, but just enough to be very annoying. Had them checked, and the pads are not worn down. Any suggestions on how to clear this up?? Thanks. Ralph ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] oil leaks, 1987 300SDL 603 engine
Thanks for your reply. I have ordered a new pump thru Mercedes and a gasket as well. I will take everything you mentioned into the task and pass on all this info to the mechanic. Thanks again. Ralph On Wed, Aug 15, 2012 at 2:58 PM, Max Dillon meadedil...@bellsouth.netwrote: Ralph, sorry for the tardy response. Vacuum pump: order gasket as well as pump, Pierburg is the OE maker. Improved pump design won't dump parts into chain gallery. You will need to inspect the face of the pump driver (attached to injection pump timer) for smooth; your finger nail should not feel any roughness or grove. If the face is worn, you will need to replace the whole timer assembly, which means injection pump must come off. Six bolts for the vacuum pump torque is 15 NM. You may need to rotate the engine to a low spot on the drive face to help with tightening down the pump. I have not had time to verify the chain tension device torque, from memory it is 70 NM. -- Max Dillon Charleston SC '95 E300 '87 300TD Ralph Robertson rare...@gmail.com wrote: #2--Just checked it out, there are no screws on the cover of the VP, so I should order a new pump instead of just a gasket for this issue. Anything scary in changing out this part? Does the fact it is leaking, indicate a bad pump?? #1 - Are you saying that replacing the seal here one must be aware of the torque needed? What is the torque for this part? I will pass it on. Thanks, Ralph On Tue, Aug 14, 2012 at 8:57 AM, Max Dillon meadedil...@bellsouth.net wrote: #1 is easy, need to know the torque value. #2 may be a bad vacuum pump. If the cover plate is crimped on, with no screws, you have the bad kind which can fail catastrophically and dump bearings into the timing chain area and destroy the engine if the chain breaks. -- Max Dillon Charleston SC '95 E300 '87 300TD Ralph Robertson rare...@gmail.com wrote: I have several leaks on my '87 SDL and had a local garage try to determine where they are coming from. They have identified the following areas: 1. Timing chain tensioner seal 2. vacuum booster on timing chain What kind of problems am I facing if I let them attempt to correct these leaks. I may be better off putting up with the leaks. I considered having the timing chain changed if these leak repairs required major parts removal from front of engine, but I had the chain stretch checked about 3 months ago, and it was fine, so I don't want to get into that if not necessary. I don't think this mechanic has done much work on the 603 engine, so that worries me. Ralph '84 300 CD '87 300SDL _ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com _ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com _ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
[MBZ] oil leaks, 1987 300SDL 603 engine
I have several leaks on my '87 SDL and had a local garage try to determine where they are coming from. They have identified the following areas: 1. Timing chain tensioner seal 2. vacuum booster on timing chain What kind of problems am I facing if I let them attempt to correct these leaks. I may be better off putting up with the leaks. I considered having the timing chain changed if these leak repairs required major parts removal from front of engine, but I had the chain stretch checked about 3 months ago, and it was fine, so I don't want to get into that if not necessary. I don't think this mechanic has done much work on the 603 engine, so that worries me. Ralph '84 300 CD '87 300SDL ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] oil leaks, 1987 300SDL 603 engine
#2--Just checked it out, there are no screws on the cover of the VP, so I should order a new pump instead of just a gasket for this issue. Anything scary in changing out this part? Does the fact it is leaking, indicate a bad pump?? #1 - Are you saying that replacing the seal here one must be aware of the torque needed? What is the torque for this part? I will pass it on. Thanks, Ralph On Tue, Aug 14, 2012 at 8:57 AM, Max Dillon meadedil...@bellsouth.netwrote: #1 is easy, need to know the torque value. #2 may be a bad vacuum pump. If the cover plate is crimped on, with no screws, you have the bad kind which can fail catastrophically and dump bearings into the timing chain area and destroy the engine if the chain breaks. -- Max Dillon Charleston SC '95 E300 '87 300TD Ralph Robertson rare...@gmail.com wrote: I have several leaks on my '87 SDL and had a local garage try to determine where they are coming from. They have identified the following areas: 1. Timing chain tensioner seal 2. vacuum booster on timing chain What kind of problems am I facing if I let them attempt to correct these leaks. I may be better off putting up with the leaks. I considered having the timing chain changed if these leak repairs required major parts removal from front of engine, but I had the chain stretch checked about 3 months ago, and it was fine, so I don't want to get into that if not necessary. I don't think this mechanic has done much work on the 603 engine, so that worries me. Ralph '84 300 CD '87 300SDL _ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
[MBZ] 1984 300CD, A/C odor
Is there a filter in the air system that can be cleaned or replaced to correct minor odors from the A/C? I have tried several methods to spray air cleaner, etc., thru the intake but they only help temporarily. Cannot seem to locate any filter system. Thanks. Ralph '84 300CD '87 300SDL ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] Is it bad for my w123 300DT to go 80mph
I gave it a try yesterday, hit a fairly steep hill, shifted to 3rd. and floored it. A lot of real black smoke appeared from the exhaust but I kept it down. The next hill, I tried it again and no smoke at all. I had noticed in the past, that everytime I hit passing gear, I would produce a lot of black smoke exhaust, so I have to assume this is cleaning itself out. Thanks. Ralph On Thu, May 24, 2012 at 9:30 AM, Rich Thomas richthomas79td...@constructivity.net wrote: Drive them hard and fast. No problemo. --R On 5/24/12 7:15 AM, Ralph Robertson wrote: Another thought about older MB's; 124's and 126's., I have an 84 300CD and a '87 300SDL, with fairly high mileage on both. Since I have owned them I have not driven them hard at all, barely ever hitting 75mph. Would it be bad for the engines to just start driving them faster and harder?? Should there be a breakin period, say driving a little faster gradually? Just wanting to do the best for these beauties. Ralph '84 300CD '87 300SDL On Wed, May 23, 2012 at 10:24 PM, OK Donokd...@gmail.com wrote: Indeed - you will learn if there is abnormal wear in the engine, and get a feel for how much you could extend the change interval. My analysis results are coming back well within normal limits with M1 running at least 12,000 miles on all the engines. Granted, I'm not running an OM61x engine anymore though --- On Tue, May 22, 2012 at 10:37 PM, Craigdiese...@pisquared.net wrote: On Tue, 22 May 2012 20:14:20 -0700 (PDT) Dimitri Seretakis dsereta...@yahoo.com wrote: Does oil analysis provide any benefit to those who change it every 3-4K miles? I use M1 5W40 Turbo Diesel Truck on my 240D and change it every 4K miles. I guess an oil analysis would tell me if I can extend that interval? Yup, sure would. You might be able to extend your oil change interval and save money. Craig __**_ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/**archive/http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/**mailman/listinfo/mercedes_**okiebenz.comhttp://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com -- OK Don 2001 ML320 1992 300D 2.5T 1990 300D 2.5T 1997 Plymouth Grand Voyager __**_ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/**archive/http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/**mailman/listinfo/mercedes_**okiebenz.comhttp://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com __**_ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/**archive/http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/**mailman/listinfo/mercedes_**okiebenz.comhttp://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com __**_ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/**archive/http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/**mailman/listinfo/mercedes_**okiebenz.comhttp://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] Is it bad for my w123 300DT to go 80mph
Another thought about older MB's; 124's and 126's., I have an 84 300CD and a '87 300SDL, with fairly high mileage on both. Since I have owned them I have not driven them hard at all, barely ever hitting 75mph. Would it be bad for the engines to just start driving them faster and harder?? Should there be a breakin period, say driving a little faster gradually? Just wanting to do the best for these beauties. Ralph '84 300CD '87 300SDL On Wed, May 23, 2012 at 10:24 PM, OK Don okd...@gmail.com wrote: Indeed - you will learn if there is abnormal wear in the engine, and get a feel for how much you could extend the change interval. My analysis results are coming back well within normal limits with M1 running at least 12,000 miles on all the engines. Granted, I'm not running an OM61x engine anymore though --- On Tue, May 22, 2012 at 10:37 PM, Craig diese...@pisquared.net wrote: On Tue, 22 May 2012 20:14:20 -0700 (PDT) Dimitri Seretakis dsereta...@yahoo.com wrote: Does oil analysis provide any benefit to those who change it every 3-4K miles? I use M1 5W40 Turbo Diesel Truck on my 240D and change it every 4K miles. I guess an oil analysis would tell me if I can extend that interval? Yup, sure would. You might be able to extend your oil change interval and save money. Craig ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com -- OK Don 2001 ML320 1992 300D 2.5T 1990 300D 2.5T 1997 Plymouth Grand Voyager ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
[MBZ] '87 300SDL Brake Pad Dash Light
My '87 300SDL's brake pad dash light has started flashing while driving and staying on at times, especially when I have the headlights turned on, (which seems strange or coincidental.) It also comes on when I am stopping, and goes off when the brake pedal is released. I had the brakes checked just a short while ago, and all was supposed to be in order with the front and back brakes. Are there other issues that might make this light come on and off like this??, other than front brake pads?? Thanks. Ralph '87 300SDL 84 300 CD ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
[MBZ] Use of synthetic oil in older diesels
I have been reading with interest the threads re the smoking SDL and the turbo issues. In them there are references to using M1 oil, and I am a bit confused/curious. I have been under the impression that the older diesels should not be using synthetic oils, and not to switch from dino to synthetic. Am I wrong here?? Thanks Ralph '87 300 SDL '84 300 CD ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] '87 300SDL running rough under load
Have not noticed any difference in shifting except once, yesterday, when the engine was cold and I was accelerating to get up to traffic speed, the 4th gear seemed to take longer to shift, once it was warmed up, I did not notice anything different. Ralph On Tue, Oct 18, 2011 at 10:41 AM, Dieselhead 126die...@gmail.com wrote: Sounds like partially restricted fuel filter(s) creating foaming under load, at the highest rate of fuel consumption. Do you notice any difference in shifting? I will definitely get the fuel filter changed, and the air filter was checked recently, but I will change that as well. The strange thing is that it runs perfect otherwise, just when it is under load on a long grade that it seems to lose power and start kind of missing, and when I come over the grade, it smooths out just like normal and runs fine. I will get right on the simple things first and hope that does it. Ralph On Mon, Oct 17, 2011 at 5:05 PM, Rich Thomas richthomas79TD300@**constructivity.netrichthomas79td...@constructivity.net wrote: Well, are your fuel filters dirty? Tank strainer? In the boy's 300SD we had that problem when the intake manifold to ALDA hose was clogged, but I don't know if your engine has something similar or not. ---R __**_ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/**archive/http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/**mailman/listinfo/mercedes_**okiebenz.comhttp://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] '87 300SDL running rough under load
I will definitely get the fuel filter changed, and the air filter was checked recently, but I will change that as well. The strange thing is that it runs perfect otherwise, just when it is under load on a long grade that it seems to lose power and start kind of missing, and when I come over the grade, it smooths out just like normal and runs fine. I will get right on the simple things first and hope that does it. Ralph On Mon, Oct 17, 2011 at 5:05 PM, Rich Thomas richthomas79td...@constructivity.net wrote: Well, are your fuel filters dirty? Tank strainer? In the boy's 300SD we had that problem when the intake manifold to ALDA hose was clogged, but I don't know if your engine has something similar or not. ---R On 10/17/11 3:52 PM, Ralph Robertson wrote: Today I noticed my SDL started running a bit rough while underload climbing a long steep grade. Running just fine under normal load, starting well, as usual, nothing seems different except this roughness like a dirty fuel filter. Never experienced this before and was wondering if it was related to the IP, or the turbo. Would appreciate your thoughts. The engine has about 130k miles on it. Thanks, Ralph, '84 300CD '87 300 SDL __**_ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/**archive/http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/**mailman/listinfo/mercedes_**okiebenz.comhttp://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com __**_ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/**archive/http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/**mailman/listinfo/mercedes_**okiebenz.comhttp://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
[MBZ] '87 300SDL running rough under load
Today I noticed my SDL started running a bit rough while underload climbing a long steep grade. Running just fine under normal load, starting well, as usual, nothing seems different except this roughness like a dirty fuel filter. Never experienced this before and was wondering if it was related to the IP, or the turbo. Would appreciate your thoughts. The engine has about 130k miles on it. Thanks, Ralph, '84 300CD '87 300 SDL ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
[MBZ] '87 300SDL front wheel hubs
I have a question for the experts; what is the small brass insert on the end of the front wheel hubs on my '87 300SDL? It seems to have a spring effect and goes up against the wheel bearing cup. Never noticed them before and can't figure out what it is for. Thanks. Ralph '84 300CD '87 300SDL ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] '87 300SDL front wheel hubs
Thanks for the info., I keep learning things about these fantastic machines. Ralph On Tue, Oct 4, 2011 at 8:17 AM, Dan Penoff lwb...@yahoo.com wrote: It's for static suppression, believe it or not. It allows any static charges that build up in the wheel/tire to bleed off to the chassis and vice versa. If you don't replace it, you might get some static or noise in AM broadcasts. Dan Sent from my iPhone On Oct 4, 2011, at 6:25 AM, Ralph Robertson rare...@gmail.com wrote: I have a question for the experts; what is the small brass insert on the end of the front wheel hubs on my '87 300SDL? It seems to have a spring effect and goes up against the wheel bearing cup. Never noticed them before and can't figure out what it is for. Thanks. Ralph '84 300CD '87 300SDL ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
[MBZ] green antifreeze
What's with the issue of using green antifreeze in diesels and aluminum heads? I had my antifreeze changed and I said to the mechanic that I heard that I should not be using the green stuff re the aluminum head. He picks up the A/F container and read that it was safe for these heads. What is the issue? Ralph ';84 300CD '87 300SDL ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
[MBZ] 300 sdl timing chain,
I have about 150K miles on my 87 300SDL and am wondering at what mileage, I should be planning on changing the timing chain. It is running well, except for first starts when I get a rough running for about 8 sec. with blue smoke accompanying the rough running. Smooths out quickly and runs fine. Ralph '87 300SDL '84 300CD ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] 300 sdl timing chain,
Correct me if I am wrong, but I was of the opinion that there wasn't any valve adjustments required for the 603 engine, which is my 300SDL, but would be required on the 617, which is in my '84 300CD. Is this correct?? Ralph On Tue, Aug 9, 2011 at 8:37 AM, Mitch Haley m...@voyager.net wrote: Ralph Robertson wrote: I have about 150K miles on my 87 300SDL and am wondering at what mileage, I should be planning on changing the timing chain. It is running well, except for first starts when I get a rough running for about 8 sec. with blue smoke accompanying the rough running. Smooths out quickly and runs fine. I don't think there were any defective chains in 1987 models, so you should be OK for quite some time. If you set the crank to top dead center (always going clockwise, roll it over again if you go too far), you can remove the valve cover and see if the timing marks line up on the cam. If the cam timing is retarded, roll the engine forward slowly until the cam is at TDC, and then read the chain stretch on the timing marks at the crank. If it hasn't stretched 3-4 degrees yet, don't worry about it. Mitch. __**_ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/**archive/http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/**mailman/listinfo/mercedes_**okiebenz.comhttp://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] rear springs 126 - '87 300SDL
I think replacing all the rubber parts is the way to go, especially with the age of this unit. Thanks. Ralph On Tue, Jun 28, 2011 at 12:05 AM, Dieselhead 126die...@gmail.com wrote: IF the rear camber and toe in are ok without load, (and you are using the proper Bilstein shocks) then you can probably contact Air LIft for some air bags. Before you do that, you probably should inspect the upper and lower rubber spring pads and take the springs out and measure them. The rubber spring pads are most certainly worn. There are many rubber components in the rear subframe assembly. The only way to improve things that is not haphazard is to replace everything rubber. Subframe mounts, LCA bushings, Diff mounts, spring pads. From your description, I would guess the main problem is the spring pads and maybe subframe mounts. 30 odd years ago, I put air lift bags in the rear springs of my 200D. They work well, but take some work to install. BTW, they still hold air, but are shot. There is no difference in the wear pattern on the rear tires. Are these rubber bushings a part of the spring setup? I will get these eccentric bushings from Rusty and try it. Sounds like it should be a simpler job than replacing the springs. I had thought that adding air bags would be the answer, but had not heard anyone ever mention putting these on mercedes. Thanks. Ralph On Mon, Jun 27, 2011 at 8:59 AM, Dieselhead 126die...@gmail.com wrote: Replace the rubber bushings in the rear. Makes a world of difference. I doubt buying new springs will make any difference. Rusty also has some eccentric bushings that will help correct this. Do you have more wear on the inside of the rear tires? I suspect that the rear springs on my '87 300 SDL are weak as the car sags considerably when passengers are in the back seat. I replaced the rear shocks, but that did not correct this. Are there any other options other than replacing these springs? Thanks. Ralph '87 300SDL '84 300CD ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/http://www.okiebenz.com/**archive/ http://www.okiebenz.**com/archive/ http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.comhttp://mail.okiebenz.com/**mailman/listinfo/mercedes_**okiebenz.com http://mail.**okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/**mercedes_okiebenz.comhttp://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/http://www.okiebenz.com/**archive/ http://www.okiebenz.**com/archive/ http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.comhttp://mail.okiebenz.com/**mailman/listinfo/mercedes_**okiebenz.com http://mail.**okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/**mercedes_okiebenz.comhttp://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com __**_ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/**archive/http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/**mailman/listinfo/mercedes_**okiebenz.comhttp://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com __**_ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/**archive/http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/**mailman/listinfo/mercedes_**okiebenz.comhttp://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
[MBZ] rear springs 126 - '87 300SDL
I suspect that the rear springs on my '87 300 SDL are weak as the car sags considerably when passengers are in the back seat. I replaced the rear shocks, but that did not correct this. Are there any other options other than replacing these springs? Thanks. Ralph '87 300SDL '84 300CD ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] rear springs 126 - '87 300SDL
There is no difference in the wear pattern on the rear tires. Are these rubber bushings a part of the spring setup? I will get these eccentric bushings from Rusty and try it. Sounds like it should be a simpler job than replacing the springs. I had thought that adding air bags would be the answer, but had not heard anyone ever mention putting these on mercedes. Thanks. Ralph On Mon, Jun 27, 2011 at 8:59 AM, Dieselhead 126die...@gmail.com wrote: Replace the rubber bushings in the rear. Makes a world of difference. I doubt buying new springs will make any difference. Rusty also has some eccentric bushings that will help correct this. Do you have more wear on the inside of the rear tires? I suspect that the rear springs on my '87 300 SDL are weak as the car sags considerably when passengers are in the back seat. I replaced the rear shocks, but that did not correct this. Are there any other options other than replacing these springs? Thanks. Ralph '87 300SDL '84 300CD __**_ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/**archive/http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/**mailman/listinfo/mercedes_**okiebenz.comhttp://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com __**_ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/**archive/http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/**mailman/listinfo/mercedes_**okiebenz.comhttp://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
[MBZ] cruise control issues for 126, '87 300SDL
My cruise control is starting to perform some erratic behaviour. Initially it will not engage, and I have to continue to try engaging numerous times before it will start. Once starting, it surges on and off for quite a while before it finally settles down and works fine. Sounds like a vacuum issue, but I don't know where to start looking for a fix. Ralph '84 300CD '87 300SDL ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] (SPAM?) Re: 1987 300SDL Driveshaft
Hi and thanks, the shop in Atlanta that did the balancing, also checked the driveshaft for universal joints, etc., and told me that all was good, just a slight balancing required. The car has only about 140K miles on it. Before goint the balance route, I checked around for either a used shaft or a new one. Rusty informed me that only the back section of the shaft is now available and also advised me about the shop that would balance my existing shaft. I took that route. Ralph On Wed, Mar 30, 2011 at 8:32 AM, Dieselhead 126die...@gmail.com wrote: If Kaleb doesn't have one, car-part.com is your friend for a used one. Rusty can get you a new one. Sounds to me like you've narrowed the list of culprits down to the drive shaft. How many miles on the car? Swapping in a known good one sounds like a great idea, but where to obtain? Very respectfully, /s/ Max Dillon '87 300TD 334k miles (Off with the head!) '95 E300 281k miles (daily driving duties) '73 Balboa 20 (High dry until the head is back on) Charleston SC ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] (SPAM?) Re: 1987 300SDL Driveshaft
The shop that did the balancing was recommended by Rusty at MB Parts, so I feel they are worthy of his recommendation. They did mark the correct way to re-join the two sections, and the shop doing my vehicle work, was well aware of the importance of getting the two sections put back together properly. I neglected to include the numerous wheel/tire balancing exercising that I did first, as that was the most obvious. The shop that has been working on this vehicle had the car up on a hoist, and several times did the speed test after each mount/ flex disc. change. The vibration is quite noticeable. They even had the rear wheels removed to eliminate that aspect. The centre bearing and support was changed at the same time as the support was very worn out letting the shaft droop. The vibration feels exactly as though the shaft is not exactly straight, with that flexing kind of vibration that would result. I can feel the vibration in the shaft tunnel, as well as the floor of the car. I feel that this may be culprit, but how to make sure the shaft is perfectly level, is what I will pursue now. Ralph On Mon, Mar 28, 2011 at 9:54 PM, Jim Cathey j...@windwireless.net wrote: Had the drive shaft removed, checked out and balanced at a specialty shop in Atlanta, Ga. It was out of balance slightly, and they added a weight to correct this. Just how familiar are they with 2-piece MB driveshafts? My money's still on that, especially if you are familiar with the different feel of the roughly 3x vibration frequency of drivelines versus anything else. Could the driveline have been mis-phased when it was reinstalled? About 27 wrong ways to line the two pieces up, one right way. See: http://userweb.windwireless.net/~jimc/JSLdline.html -- Jim ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] 1987 300SDL Driveshaft
I have a feeling this is the area I should concentrate; ensure the shaft is perfectly level, which if not, would certainly cause just such a vibration. Will pursue this angle further. Thanks. Ralph On Mon, Mar 28, 2011 at 11:06 PM, Dieselhead 126die...@gmail.com wrote: I chased this on my first SDL also. One thing that helped: after I changed the carrier and the rubber mount again, I noticed the new rubber mount for the carrier is not as thick or stiff as the older ones. THis allowed the carrier bearing to sag at rest, and to float around while running. A definite source of vibration. I cleaned the rubber good with brake cleaner, then took blue permatex and built up the mount below the bearing, with the driveshaft wired in as near centered as I could make it. This helped. I have suspected that the new carrier bearing mount is not stiff enough to do the job, but never could prove it, since I don't have an old rubber mount to compare to. As Jim said, if any fool takes the driveshaft apart, there are 20 some wrong ways to put it back together, and only one right way. Even when you try to mark the halves, it is hard to get them aligned right. This sort of vibration can be tires, wheel bearings, diff mounts (you replaced that) subframe mounts, or a bad half shaft. Check the axles for rotational play (that is, click-click while rotating back and forth. You should also check for excessive wear in the spider pinion -- there should be very little backlash while turning a rear wheel before the other one moves, along with the pinion (driveshaft). If one wheel can be move a significant amount independent of the others, the diff is worn out. Will clank sometimes, and can vibrate. My 220D was shot, and I think the new 300D is going to get a transplant soon, as it's bad as well. Weak shocks can permit wheel tramp a resonant speeds, so check those, and make sure the sway bar bushings in the rear and the links are all good, they allow the sway bar to vibrate if they are bad. Good luck! Peter ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] 1987 300SDL Driveshaft
An update to my long story: I have a vibration at certain speeds in my '87 300SDL. The vehicle is in super condition, with about 130K miles. This is what I have done thus far: replace transmission output shaft bearing and seal. replace drive shaft center carrier bearing. replace both front and rear drive shaft flex discs. replace differential mount. remove and switch rear axles from left to right. Had motor mounts and trans. mounts checked, but not replaced. Apparently they are all still good. Had the drive shaft removed, checked out and balanced at a specialty shop in Atlanta, Ga. It was out of balance slightly, and they added a weight to correct this. The vibration still is noticeable when under acceleration at about 25-30 MPH, then smooths out. At about 45-50 it returns until about 58 MPH, then again smooths out and is not noticeable. At about 70-75mph, I can feel it again returning slightly. After having all the above done, the vibration is somewhat reduced and I assume the new rubbers are dampening the issue. The strange thing is the weather seems to have an effect. When the temp. is around 55F., I can feel this issue, but if it is above say 70 degrees F, it is practically unnoticeable, except for the higher speed vibration. Except for replacing all the mounts, I am at a standstill! Any ideas? Thanks, Ralph - '87 300SDL '84 300CD On Sun, Mar 13, 2011 at 10:51 AM, Ralph Robertson rare...@gmail.com wrote: I first replaced all the rubber mountings on the vehicle, but the vibration was still there. Now hoping the balancing of the shaft will do the trick. Thanks for all input. Ralph On Sat, Mar 12, 2011 at 9:54 PM, Max Dillon meadedil...@bellsouth.netwrote: Have you tried replacing the rubber bits? Flex discs on front and rear, and carrier bearing with rubber mount; Any/all could be culprit as well. -Max -Original Message- From: mercedes-boun...@okiebenz.com [mailto:mercedes-boun...@okiebenz.com ] On Behalf Of Ralph Robertson Sent: Friday, March 11, 2011 8:53 AM To: Mercedes Discussion List Subject: Re: [MBZ] 1987 300SDL Driveshaft I am assuming that the driveshaft for the 300SDL would be longer due to the longer wheelbase vehicle, but not sure. I was able to locate a company that would overhaul my old driveshaft and balance it, so hoping that will correct my vibration issue. Thanks for the reply. Ralph '87 300SDL '84 300CD On Thu, Mar 10, 2011 at 11:04 PM, Rich Thomas richthomas79td...@constructivity.net wrote: There was (is?) an SDL at the knackers nearby, don't know what year, are there differences? Maybe Max and I need to take a trip over there and check various things out. --R On 3/9/2011 8:12 AM, Ralph Robertson wrote: I am looking for a used driveshaft for my 1987 300SDL. Can anyone assist me here? Thanks. Ralph '87 300SDL '84 300CD Brooskville, Fl, 34601 ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] 1987 300SDL Driveshaft
I first replaced all the rubber mountings on the vehicle, but the vibration was still there. Now hoping the balancing of the shaft will do the trick. Thanks for all input. Ralph On Sat, Mar 12, 2011 at 9:54 PM, Max Dillon meadedil...@bellsouth.netwrote: Have you tried replacing the rubber bits? Flex discs on front and rear, and carrier bearing with rubber mount; Any/all could be culprit as well. -Max -Original Message- From: mercedes-boun...@okiebenz.com [mailto:mercedes-boun...@okiebenz.com] On Behalf Of Ralph Robertson Sent: Friday, March 11, 2011 8:53 AM To: Mercedes Discussion List Subject: Re: [MBZ] 1987 300SDL Driveshaft I am assuming that the driveshaft for the 300SDL would be longer due to the longer wheelbase vehicle, but not sure. I was able to locate a company that would overhaul my old driveshaft and balance it, so hoping that will correct my vibration issue. Thanks for the reply. Ralph '87 300SDL '84 300CD On Thu, Mar 10, 2011 at 11:04 PM, Rich Thomas richthomas79td...@constructivity.net wrote: There was (is?) an SDL at the knackers nearby, don't know what year, are there differences? Maybe Max and I need to take a trip over there and check various things out. --R On 3/9/2011 8:12 AM, Ralph Robertson wrote: I am looking for a used driveshaft for my 1987 300SDL. Can anyone assist me here? Thanks. Ralph '87 300SDL '84 300CD Brooskville, Fl, 34601 ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] 1987 300SDL Driveshaft
I am assuming that the driveshaft for the 300SDL would be longer due to the longer wheelbase vehicle, but not sure. I was able to locate a company that would overhaul my old driveshaft and balance it, so hoping that will correct my vibration issue. Thanks for the reply. Ralph '87 300SDL '84 300CD On Thu, Mar 10, 2011 at 11:04 PM, Rich Thomas richthomas79td...@constructivity.net wrote: There was (is?) an SDL at the knackers nearby, don't know what year, are there differences? Maybe Max and I need to take a trip over there and check various things out. --R On 3/9/2011 8:12 AM, Ralph Robertson wrote: I am looking for a used driveshaft for my 1987 300SDL. Can anyone assist me here? Thanks. Ralph '87 300SDL '84 300CD Brooskville, Fl, 34601 ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
[MBZ] 1987 300SDL Driveshaft
I am looking for a used driveshaft for my 1987 300SDL. Can anyone assist me here? Thanks. Ralph '87 300SDL '84 300CD Brooskville, Fl, 34601 ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
