Re: [MBZ] The $500E300 did its job tonight
Or the VW Tourag. When they were doing the V10 rocketship I kind of got it. The 3.0l doesn't excite me. Oh wait, I just looked it up, stock early 3.0l is 220hp/406#ft. Later is 240/406. Stage 1 tune takes that to 280/427 and 305/490 respectively.Sounds like that'd be real fun in an older pickup. Maybe something like a '60s vintage full size Jeep... The V10 is actually a little disappointing, 313/553. Not that those numbers aren't nice, they're just not that much more than the 3.0l... -Curt On Thursday, July 18, 2019, 8:07:52 PM EDT, Curley McLain via Mercedes wrote: kinda kike the Cheep grand cherokee dissel for $60k. $60k for a cheep to save maybe $500 a year? NopE! (How much Mercedes Benz could I buy for $60k in 2007???) Curt Raymond via Mercedes wrote on 7/18/19 10:18 AM: > GM has bungled the Cruze diesel almost as badly as they did diesel cars in >the late '70s. The difference being that this was marketing bungling vs just >bad engines the first time around. > The original Cruze diesel was a top end car, no manual transmission, all the > bells and whistles, that they somehow thought they were going to sell to > cheapskates who wanted 50mpg... > > -Curt > > ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] The $500E300 did its job tonight
or 10 Gm 304 shovey engines. Craig via Mercedes wrote on 7/18/19 12:44 PM: On Thu, 18 Jul 2019 09:05:22 -0700 G Mann via Mercedes wrote: Detroit engine name system is: 20 = Number of cylinders V = V configuration 149 = Cubic inches of displacement PER cylinder... One big honking engine fuel burn would be in Gallons per Mile rather than Miles per Gallon... but you could "roll coal" better than any of the other bubbas at the mud races... 20 x 149 = 2980 in^3 = 48.83 liters! Craig ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] The $500E300 did its job tonight
kinda kike the Cheep grand cherokee dissel for $60k. $60k for a cheep to save maybe $500 a year? NopE! (How much Mercedes Benz could I buy for $60k in 2007???) Curt Raymond via Mercedes wrote on 7/18/19 10:18 AM: GM has bungled the Cruze diesel almost as badly as they did diesel cars in the late '70s. The difference being that this was marketing bungling vs just bad engines the first time around. The original Cruze diesel was a top end car, no manual transmission, all the bells and whistles, that they somehow thought they were going to sell to cheapskates who wanted 50mpg... -Curt ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] The $500E300 did its job tonight
"any landing you can walk away from is a good landing" applies to land vehicles too. Rick Knoble via Mercedes wrote on 7/18/19 6:46 AM: Glad you are okay. It's never a good thing to total out a car, but it's always a good thing to be able to walk away from the wreck. Rick ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] The $500E300 did its job tonight
No delete. There are other custom ecu solutions but nothing cheap. Just to get it running in a new chassis with the original key is tricky. On Thu, Jul 18, 2019, 1:12 PM Dan Penoff via Mercedes wrote: > Not to my knowledge, at least not without a major expense. I believe, and > I’ll certainly defer to those more familiar with it, that the EIS system is > pretty tough to crack. There are companies in Europe that ell workarounds > but they’re very expensive. > > -D > > > > On Jul 18, 2019, at 4:08 PM, Curt Raymond via Mercedes < > mercedes@okiebenz.com> wrote: > > > > Is there no immobilizer delete available for MBs? This is a pretty > common TDI thing for engine transplants.I'd always figured you could just > shove the ECU key up under the dash and leave it there, the passive > electronics in the transponder last pretty well. > > -Curt > > > >On Thursday, July 18, 2019, 3:28:15 PM EDT, Karl Wittnebel via > Mercedes wrote: > > > > That ecu wont work without a key, and the motor won't work without an > ecu. > > So if you pull it for a transplant you need everything. Having extra keys > > is mandatory, because once the motor is out you cannot have the vin > > verified by the dealer. > > > > On Thu, Jul 18, 2019, 12:05 PM Craig via Mercedes > > > wrote: > > > >> On Thu, 18 Jul 2019 11:41:05 -0700 Karl Wittnebel via Mercedes > >> wrote: > >> > >>> Ah sorry. I was thinking it was a 648 for a second. > >> > >> Pardon my ignorance. What is a 648? Is that OM648 (straight-6 or V?)? > >> > >> What difference would that make in pulling the drivetrain out of the > car? > >> > >> > >> Craig > >> > >> > >>> On Thu, Jul 18, 2019, 11:35 AM Craig via Mercedes > >>> wrote: > >>> > On Thu, 18 Jul 2019 11:24:13 -0700 Karl Wittnebel via Mercedes > wrote: > > > Get all 8 keys for it from the dealer before you pull the motor. You > > cannot get keys without a whole car. > > If he is going to render the car useless by pulling the drivetrain, > why would he need more keys? > > > Craig > > > > On Wed, Jul 17, 2019, 11:01 AM Mitch Haley via Mercedes < > > mercedes@okiebenz.com> wrote: > > > >> Pull the engine, transmission, computers, shifter, and all > >> associated wiring harnesses. > >> Would go nice in a W124, W201, or W210. If not a W210, just get an > >> aftermarket intercooler. > >> A W124/201 with 24v turbo diesel and electronic overdrive > >> transmission would be sort of unique. > >> > >> ___ > >> http://www.okiebenz.com > >> > >> To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ > >> > >> To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: > >> http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com > >> > >> > > ___ > > http://www.okiebenz.com > > > > To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ > > > > To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: > > http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com > > > > > > ___ > > http://www.okiebenz.com > > > > To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ > > > > To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: > > http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com > > > > > > > ___ > http://www.okiebenz.com > > To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ > > To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: > http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com > > ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] The $500E300 did its job tonight
Not to my knowledge, at least not without a major expense. I believe, and I’ll certainly defer to those more familiar with it, that the EIS system is pretty tough to crack. There are companies in Europe that ell workarounds but they’re very expensive. -D > On Jul 18, 2019, at 4:08 PM, Curt Raymond via Mercedes > wrote: > > Is there no immobilizer delete available for MBs? This is a pretty common TDI > thing for engine transplants.I'd always figured you could just shove the ECU > key up under the dash and leave it there, the passive electronics in the > transponder last pretty well. > -Curt > >On Thursday, July 18, 2019, 3:28:15 PM EDT, Karl Wittnebel via Mercedes > wrote: > > That ecu wont work without a key, and the motor won't work without an ecu. > So if you pull it for a transplant you need everything. Having extra keys > is mandatory, because once the motor is out you cannot have the vin > verified by the dealer. > > On Thu, Jul 18, 2019, 12:05 PM Craig via Mercedes > wrote: > >> On Thu, 18 Jul 2019 11:41:05 -0700 Karl Wittnebel via Mercedes >> wrote: >> >>> Ah sorry. I was thinking it was a 648 for a second. >> >> Pardon my ignorance. What is a 648? Is that OM648 (straight-6 or V?)? >> >> What difference would that make in pulling the drivetrain out of the car? >> >> >> Craig >> >> >>> On Thu, Jul 18, 2019, 11:35 AM Craig via Mercedes >>> wrote: >>> On Thu, 18 Jul 2019 11:24:13 -0700 Karl Wittnebel via Mercedes wrote: > Get all 8 keys for it from the dealer before you pull the motor. You > cannot get keys without a whole car. If he is going to render the car useless by pulling the drivetrain, why would he need more keys? Craig > On Wed, Jul 17, 2019, 11:01 AM Mitch Haley via Mercedes < > mercedes@okiebenz.com> wrote: > >> Pull the engine, transmission, computers, shifter, and all >> associated wiring harnesses. >> Would go nice in a W124, W201, or W210. If not a W210, just get an >> aftermarket intercooler. >> A W124/201 with 24v turbo diesel and electronic overdrive >> transmission would be sort of unique. >> >> ___ >> http://www.okiebenz.com >> >> To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ >> >> To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: >> http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com >> >> > ___ > http://www.okiebenz.com > > To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ > > To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: > http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com > > > ___ > http://www.okiebenz.com > > To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ > > To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: > http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com > > ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] The $500E300 did its job tonight
Is there no immobilizer delete available for MBs? This is a pretty common TDI thing for engine transplants.I'd always figured you could just shove the ECU key up under the dash and leave it there, the passive electronics in the transponder last pretty well. -Curt On Thursday, July 18, 2019, 3:28:15 PM EDT, Karl Wittnebel via Mercedes wrote: That ecu wont work without a key, and the motor won't work without an ecu. So if you pull it for a transplant you need everything. Having extra keys is mandatory, because once the motor is out you cannot have the vin verified by the dealer. On Thu, Jul 18, 2019, 12:05 PM Craig via Mercedes wrote: > On Thu, 18 Jul 2019 11:41:05 -0700 Karl Wittnebel via Mercedes > wrote: > > > Ah sorry. I was thinking it was a 648 for a second. > > Pardon my ignorance. What is a 648? Is that OM648 (straight-6 or V?)? > > What difference would that make in pulling the drivetrain out of the car? > > > Craig > > > > On Thu, Jul 18, 2019, 11:35 AM Craig via Mercedes > > wrote: > > > > > On Thu, 18 Jul 2019 11:24:13 -0700 Karl Wittnebel via Mercedes > > > wrote: > > > > > > > Get all 8 keys for it from the dealer before you pull the motor. You > > > > cannot get keys without a whole car. > > > > > > If he is going to render the car useless by pulling the drivetrain, > > > why would he need more keys? > > > > > > > > > Craig > > > > > > > > > > On Wed, Jul 17, 2019, 11:01 AM Mitch Haley via Mercedes < > > > > mercedes@okiebenz.com> wrote: > > > > > > > > > Pull the engine, transmission, computers, shifter, and all > > > > > associated wiring harnesses. > > > > > Would go nice in a W124, W201, or W210. If not a W210, just get an > > > > > aftermarket intercooler. > > > > > A W124/201 with 24v turbo diesel and electronic overdrive > > > > > transmission would be sort of unique. > > ___ > http://www.okiebenz.com > > To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ > > To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: > http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com > > ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] The $500E300 did its job tonight
I guess there might be dealers that want to see the car, but I would think that is the exception rather than the rule. Consider how many instances where it wouldn’t be possible to bring the car in, or what an inconvenience it would be. I’m sure that policy would get hammered after MBUSA got a few calls. The form they fill out (a “safety” form) for keys that I’ve seen only requires copies of ID that match the registration or title provided. So if I show up at the dealer with my driver’s license and a title and the information matches, they’ll sell me a key. Granted, my dealer knows me and will even order a key without ID from me - but will require it upon delivery and before giving it to me - there’s not a whole lot more they can do to assure you’re a legit owner. -D > On Jul 18, 2019, at 3:48 PM, Karl Wittnebel via Mercedes > wrote: > > Wouldnt be possible if you lost your only key, so Dan must be correct. > > On Thu, Jul 18, 2019, 12:46 PM Karl Wittnebel wrote: > >> Probably depends upon the dealer but some of them want to see the car and >> verify the vin. >> >> On Thu, Jul 18, 2019, 12:41 PM Dan Penoff via Mercedes < >> mercedes@okiebenz.com> wrote: >> >>> I would sort of take exception to this…. >>> >>> I say that because you don’t have to bring the vehicle in to the dealer >>> to get a replacement key, you just have to show ownership. A title and your >>> driver’s license is all that’s necessary. I would say registration, but if >>> you parted the car you wouldn’t have a current registration. You could >>> easily hang on to the title and use it indefinitely. >>> >>> -D >>> ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] The $500E300 did its job tonight
Wouldnt be possible if you lost your only key, so Dan must be correct. On Thu, Jul 18, 2019, 12:46 PM Karl Wittnebel wrote: > Probably depends upon the dealer but some of them want to see the car and > verify the vin. > > On Thu, Jul 18, 2019, 12:41 PM Dan Penoff via Mercedes < > mercedes@okiebenz.com> wrote: > >> I would sort of take exception to this…. >> >> I say that because you don’t have to bring the vehicle in to the dealer >> to get a replacement key, you just have to show ownership. A title and your >> driver’s license is all that’s necessary. I would say registration, but if >> you parted the car you wouldn’t have a current registration. You could >> easily hang on to the title and use it indefinitely. >> >> -D >> >> >> >> > On Jul 18, 2019, at 3:27 PM, Karl Wittnebel via Mercedes < >> mercedes@okiebenz.com> wrote: >> > >> > That ecu wont work without a key, and the motor won't work without an >> ecu. >> > So if you pull it for a transplant you need everything. Having extra >> keys >> > is mandatory, because once the motor is out you cannot have the vin >> > verified by the dealer. >> > >> >> >> ___ >> http://www.okiebenz.com >> >> To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ >> >> To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: >> http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com >> >> ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] The $500E300 did its job tonight
Probably depends upon the dealer but some of them want to see the car and verify the vin. On Thu, Jul 18, 2019, 12:41 PM Dan Penoff via Mercedes < mercedes@okiebenz.com> wrote: > I would sort of take exception to this…. > > I say that because you don’t have to bring the vehicle in to the dealer to > get a replacement key, you just have to show ownership. A title and your > driver’s license is all that’s necessary. I would say registration, but if > you parted the car you wouldn’t have a current registration. You could > easily hang on to the title and use it indefinitely. > > -D > > > > > On Jul 18, 2019, at 3:27 PM, Karl Wittnebel via Mercedes < > mercedes@okiebenz.com> wrote: > > > > That ecu wont work without a key, and the motor won't work without an > ecu. > > So if you pull it for a transplant you need everything. Having extra keys > > is mandatory, because once the motor is out you cannot have the vin > > verified by the dealer. > > > > > ___ > http://www.okiebenz.com > > To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ > > To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: > http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com > > ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] The $500E300 did its job tonight
I would sort of take exception to this…. I say that because you don’t have to bring the vehicle in to the dealer to get a replacement key, you just have to show ownership. A title and your driver’s license is all that’s necessary. I would say registration, but if you parted the car you wouldn’t have a current registration. You could easily hang on to the title and use it indefinitely. -D > On Jul 18, 2019, at 3:27 PM, Karl Wittnebel via Mercedes > wrote: > > That ecu wont work without a key, and the motor won't work without an ecu. > So if you pull it for a transplant you need everything. Having extra keys > is mandatory, because once the motor is out you cannot have the vin > verified by the dealer. > ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] The $500E300 did its job tonight
That ecu wont work without a key, and the motor won't work without an ecu. So if you pull it for a transplant you need everything. Having extra keys is mandatory, because once the motor is out you cannot have the vin verified by the dealer. On Thu, Jul 18, 2019, 12:05 PM Craig via Mercedes wrote: > On Thu, 18 Jul 2019 11:41:05 -0700 Karl Wittnebel via Mercedes > wrote: > > > Ah sorry. I was thinking it was a 648 for a second. > > Pardon my ignorance. What is a 648? Is that OM648 (straight-6 or V?)? > > What difference would that make in pulling the drivetrain out of the car? > > > Craig > > > > On Thu, Jul 18, 2019, 11:35 AM Craig via Mercedes > > wrote: > > > > > On Thu, 18 Jul 2019 11:24:13 -0700 Karl Wittnebel via Mercedes > > > wrote: > > > > > > > Get all 8 keys for it from the dealer before you pull the motor. You > > > > cannot get keys without a whole car. > > > > > > If he is going to render the car useless by pulling the drivetrain, > > > why would he need more keys? > > > > > > > > > Craig > > > > > > > > > > On Wed, Jul 17, 2019, 11:01 AM Mitch Haley via Mercedes < > > > > mercedes@okiebenz.com> wrote: > > > > > > > > > Pull the engine, transmission, computers, shifter, and all > > > > > associated wiring harnesses. > > > > > Would go nice in a W124, W201, or W210. If not a W210, just get an > > > > > aftermarket intercooler. > > > > > A W124/201 with 24v turbo diesel and electronic overdrive > > > > > transmission would be sort of unique. > > ___ > http://www.okiebenz.com > > To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ > > To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: > http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com > > ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] The $500E300 did its job tonight
On Thu, 18 Jul 2019 11:41:05 -0700 Karl Wittnebel via Mercedes wrote: > Ah sorry. I was thinking it was a 648 for a second. Pardon my ignorance. What is a 648? Is that OM648 (straight-6 or V?)? What difference would that make in pulling the drivetrain out of the car? Craig > On Thu, Jul 18, 2019, 11:35 AM Craig via Mercedes > wrote: > > > On Thu, 18 Jul 2019 11:24:13 -0700 Karl Wittnebel via Mercedes > > wrote: > > > > > Get all 8 keys for it from the dealer before you pull the motor. You > > > cannot get keys without a whole car. > > > > If he is going to render the car useless by pulling the drivetrain, > > why would he need more keys? > > > > > > Craig > > > > > > > On Wed, Jul 17, 2019, 11:01 AM Mitch Haley via Mercedes < > > > mercedes@okiebenz.com> wrote: > > > > > > > Pull the engine, transmission, computers, shifter, and all > > > > associated wiring harnesses. > > > > Would go nice in a W124, W201, or W210. If not a W210, just get an > > > > aftermarket intercooler. > > > > A W124/201 with 24v turbo diesel and electronic overdrive > > > > transmission would be sort of unique. ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] The $500E300 did its job tonight
Ah sorry. I was thinking it was a 648 for a second. On Thu, Jul 18, 2019, 11:35 AM Craig via Mercedes wrote: > On Thu, 18 Jul 2019 11:24:13 -0700 Karl Wittnebel via Mercedes > wrote: > > > Get all 8 keys for it from the dealer before you pull the motor. You > > cannot get keys without a whole car. > > If he is going to render the car useless by pulling the drivetrain, why > would he need more keys? > > > Craig > > > > On Wed, Jul 17, 2019, 11:01 AM Mitch Haley via Mercedes < > > mercedes@okiebenz.com> wrote: > > > > > Pull the engine, transmission, computers, shifter, and all associated > > > wiring harnesses. > > > Would go nice in a W124, W201, or W210. If not a W210, just get an > > > aftermarket intercooler. > > > A W124/201 with 24v turbo diesel and electronic overdrive transmission > > > would be sort of unique. > > ___ > http://www.okiebenz.com > > To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ > > To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: > http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com > > ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] The $500E300 did its job tonight
On Thu, 18 Jul 2019 11:24:13 -0700 Karl Wittnebel via Mercedes wrote: > Get all 8 keys for it from the dealer before you pull the motor. You > cannot get keys without a whole car. If he is going to render the car useless by pulling the drivetrain, why would he need more keys? Craig > On Wed, Jul 17, 2019, 11:01 AM Mitch Haley via Mercedes < > mercedes@okiebenz.com> wrote: > > > Pull the engine, transmission, computers, shifter, and all associated > > wiring harnesses. > > Would go nice in a W124, W201, or W210. If not a W210, just get an > > aftermarket intercooler. > > A W124/201 with 24v turbo diesel and electronic overdrive transmission > > would be sort of unique. ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
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> On July 18, 2019 at 1:11 PM Randy Bennell via Mercedes > wrote: > Around here, the engine of choice for a Metropolitan is or at least was, > a little 4 cylinder Datsun motor. I assume they put the whole engine and > transmission set up in. Interesting idea. IIRC, the 1200, 510,610,710, and B210 were all RWD, so you'd just need to deal with motor mounts, shift linkage and driveshaft. The 1980 Mazda GLC/323 was about the end of RWD economy cars in the USA. If it weren't for all the LUV and P'up owners buying up the engines, a diesel Chevette would have made a decent, if low powered, donor for a Metro. ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] The $500E300 did its job tonight
Get all 8 keys for it from the dealer before you pull the motor. You cannot get keys without a whole car. On Wed, Jul 17, 2019, 11:01 AM Mitch Haley via Mercedes < mercedes@okiebenz.com> wrote: > Pull the engine, transmission, computers, shifter, and all associated > wiring harnesses. > Would go nice in a W124, W201, or W210. If not a W210, just get an > aftermarket intercooler. > A W124/201 with 24v turbo diesel and electronic overdrive transmission > would be sort of unique. > > Mitch. > > ___ > http://www.okiebenz.com > > To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ > > To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: > http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com > > ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] The $500E300 did its job tonight
Hence, the thirst for fuel. On 18/07/2019 12:44 PM, Craig via Mercedes wrote: On Thu, 18 Jul 2019 09:05:22 -0700 G Mann via Mercedes wrote: Detroit engine name system is: 20 = Number of cylinders V = V configuration 149 = Cubic inches of displacement PER cylinder... One big honking engine fuel burn would be in Gallons per Mile rather than Miles per Gallon... but you could "roll coal" better than any of the other bubbas at the mud races... 20 x 149 = 2980 in^3 = 48.83 liters! Craig On Thu, Jul 18, 2019 at 8:27 AM Dan Penoff via Mercedes < mercedes@okiebenz.com> wrote: Detroit Diesel 20V-149. That’s what you need. We used these on very large (2mW) generator sets. One big, honkin’ engine. Sucked fuel so badly you could watch the level in the day tank drop when they were running under load. Here’s a link to a picture of one with six guys in front of it to give you an idea of scale: https://www.thedieselgarage.com/forums/64-medium-heavy-duty/52316-help-v12-detroit-diesel-3.html#post847418 ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] The $500E300 did its job tonight
On Thu, 18 Jul 2019 09:05:22 -0700 G Mann via Mercedes wrote: > Detroit engine name system is: > 20 = Number of cylinders > V = V configuration > 149 = Cubic inches of displacement PER cylinder... > One big honking engine fuel burn would be in Gallons per Mile > rather than Miles per Gallon... but you could "roll coal" better > than any of the other bubbas at the mud races... 20 x 149 = 2980 in^3 = 48.83 liters! Craig > On Thu, Jul 18, 2019 at 8:27 AM Dan Penoff via Mercedes < > mercedes@okiebenz.com> wrote: > > > Detroit Diesel 20V-149. That’s what you need. We used these on very > > large (2mW) generator sets. One big, honkin’ engine. Sucked fuel so > > badly you could watch the level in the day tank drop when they were > > running under load. > > > > Here’s a link to a picture of one with six guys in front of it to > > give you an idea of scale: > > > > > > https://www.thedieselgarage.com/forums/64-medium-heavy-duty/52316-help-v12-detroit-diesel-3.html#post847418 ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] The $500E300 did its job tonight
On 17/07/2019 10:30 PM, Mitch Haley via Mercedes wrote: Metro would need a tiny diesel, like a VW TDI or a 1.6L Clean Turbo Diesel (CTD). Unfortunately, General Motors, after totally failing to advertise or try to sell the 1.6 CTD for three years, has announced that it won't be available in 2020 Equinox or Terrain (and they already announced there won't be any 2020 Cruze, diesel or gas). Mitch. Around here, the engine of choice for a Metropolitan is or at least was, a little 4 cylinder Datsun motor. I assume they put the whole engine and transmission set up in. ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] The $500E300 did its job tonight
Mitch needs to do this to his car to get some serious mileage numbers: https://izismile.com/2009/12/30/little_tuning_for_a_small_car_and_as_a_result_a_big_fuel_economy_8_pics.html -D > On Jul 18, 2019, at 12:06 PM, Mitch Haley via Mercedes > wrote: > > Haven't seen any reported transmission issues so far, just flywheel issues on > stick shifts. > Actual engine issues seem to be unheard of, all the failures are in the post > 2010 style diesel emissions controls. > The 2017-2019 aluminum block 1.6L has had a lot less emissions control system > issues than the 2014-2015 2.0L. One guy on Cruzetalk has an ongoing issue > that his dealer is clueless about, but everybody else is happy with theirs. > The good news is you can tune the 2.0L to run with no DPF, DEF or EGR. The > bad news is nobody's successfully cracked into the computer on the 1.6L yet, > so it's a good thing it's pretty reliable with all stock systems intact. > https://www.cruzetalk.com/threads/frequent-regens-with-surging-at-idle.239001/ > > Car and Driver managed to squeeze 70mpg out of a 1.6L automatic, which is > probably similar to what Curt could do with his stick shift TDI if he set the > cruise control at 55. > https://www.caranddriver.com/news/a15341744/the-prince-of-parsimony-squeezing-max-mileage-from-a-chevy-cruze-diesel/ > > >> On July 18, 2019 at 11:39 AM Allan Streib wrote: >> >> No kidding failed to market... I didn't even know there was a Cruze (or >> any other GM) diesel car being produced. Anyone know how they hold up? I >> see a new 2019 listed near here and it is 9-speed automatic transmission >> which sounds potentially fragile, all by itself. >> >> Allan > > ___ > http://www.okiebenz.com > > To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ > > To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: > http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com > > ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] The $500E300 did its job tonight
I was just looking on TDIClub and somebody has done 67mpg in real world driving with a 2013. The 2015 has a different engine and should do slightly better. Best I've done so far was 56 or so. Thats to work and back which is an elevation change of 600 feet. I think it was 65 on the way to work and 50 or 51 on the way back up the hill. -Curt On Thursday, July 18, 2019, 12:07:28 PM EDT, Mitch Haley via Mercedes wrote: Haven't seen any reported transmission issues so far, just flywheel issues on stick shifts. Actual engine issues seem to be unheard of, all the failures are in the post 2010 style diesel emissions controls. The 2017-2019 aluminum block 1.6L has had a lot less emissions control system issues than the 2014-2015 2.0L. One guy on Cruzetalk has an ongoing issue that his dealer is clueless about, but everybody else is happy with theirs. The good news is you can tune the 2.0L to run with no DPF, DEF or EGR. The bad news is nobody's successfully cracked into the computer on the 1.6L yet, so it's a good thing it's pretty reliable with all stock systems intact. https://www.cruzetalk.com/threads/frequent-regens-with-surging-at-idle.239001/ Car and Driver managed to squeeze 70mpg out of a 1.6L automatic, which is probably similar to what Curt could do with his stick shift TDI if he set the cruise control at 55. https://www.caranddriver.com/news/a15341744/the-prince-of-parsimony-squeezing-max-mileage-from-a-chevy-cruze-diesel/ > On July 18, 2019 at 11:39 AM Allan Streib wrote: > > No kidding failed to market... I didn't even know there was a Cruze (or > any other GM) diesel car being produced. Anyone know how they hold up? I > see a new 2019 listed near here and it is 9-speed automatic transmission > which sounds potentially fragile, all by itself. > > Allan ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] The $500E300 did its job tonight
Haven't seen any reported transmission issues so far, just flywheel issues on stick shifts. Actual engine issues seem to be unheard of, all the failures are in the post 2010 style diesel emissions controls. The 2017-2019 aluminum block 1.6L has had a lot less emissions control system issues than the 2014-2015 2.0L. One guy on Cruzetalk has an ongoing issue that his dealer is clueless about, but everybody else is happy with theirs. The good news is you can tune the 2.0L to run with no DPF, DEF or EGR. The bad news is nobody's successfully cracked into the computer on the 1.6L yet, so it's a good thing it's pretty reliable with all stock systems intact. https://www.cruzetalk.com/threads/frequent-regens-with-surging-at-idle.239001/ Car and Driver managed to squeeze 70mpg out of a 1.6L automatic, which is probably similar to what Curt could do with his stick shift TDI if he set the cruise control at 55. https://www.caranddriver.com/news/a15341744/the-prince-of-parsimony-squeezing-max-mileage-from-a-chevy-cruze-diesel/ > On July 18, 2019 at 11:39 AM Allan Streib wrote: > > No kidding failed to market... I didn't even know there was a Cruze (or > any other GM) diesel car being produced. Anyone know how they hold up? I > see a new 2019 listed near here and it is 9-speed automatic transmission > which sounds potentially fragile, all by itself. > > Allan ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] The $500E300 did its job tonight
Detroit engine name system is: 20 = Number of cylinders V = V configuration 149 = Cubic inches of displacement PER cylinder... One big honking engine fuel burn would be in Gallons per Mile rather than Miles per Gallon... but you could "roll coal" better than any of the other bubbas at the mud races... On Thu, Jul 18, 2019 at 8:27 AM Dan Penoff via Mercedes < mercedes@okiebenz.com> wrote: > Detroit Diesel 20V-149. That’s what you need. We used these on very large > (2mW) generator sets. One big, honkin’ engine. Sucked fuel so badly you > could watch the level in the day tank drop when they were running under > load. > > Here’s a link to a picture of one with six guys in front of it to give you > an idea of scale: > > > https://www.thedieselgarage.com/forums/64-medium-heavy-duty/52316-help-v12-detroit-diesel-3.html#post847418 > > -D > > > > On Jul 18, 2019, at 10:43 AM, Curt Raymond via Mercedes < > mercedes@okiebenz.com> wrote: > > > > Just put a saddle on the engine... > > Actually, that'd be kinda cool, get one of those massive Detroit engines > like the 16cyl Deboss blew up. Make a wheeled chassis and put a saddle on > the engine. Figure out a way to have reins for controls. It'd be a hot ride > though... > > > > -Curt > > > >On Thursday, July 18, 2019, 10:39:59 AM EDT, OK Don via Mercedes < > mercedes@okiebenz.com> wrote: > > > > YES! That would be nice, of course, didn't someone put an Allison V12 > into > > (or under) one in the '60's? > > > > On Wed, Jul 17, 2019 at 9:03 PM Kevin Kraly via Mercedes < > > mercedes@okiebenz.com> wrote: > > > >> It would be nice to install a TDI in my nephew’s little 1960 Nash > >> Metropolitan!! > >> Kevin in Hillsboro, OR > >> > >> Sent from my iPhone > >> > >>> On Jul 17, 2019, at 6:17 PM, Curt Raymond via Mercedes < > >> mercedes@okiebenz.com> wrote: > >>> > >>> Just because its sideways mounted in a VW doesn't mean it can't be > >> inline elsewhere. In fact the '99.5-05 Passats had the engine mounted > >> inline. Pretty weird that VW made both and weird that they had an > inline, > >> front drive... > >>> Lots of people put TDI engines in lots of things... > >>> -Curt > >>> > >>> On Wednesday, July 17, 2019, 6:31:00 PM EDT, OK Don < > okd...@gmail.com> > >> wrote: > >>> > >>> It needs to stay rear wheel drive - I guess someone is making adapter > >> kits, but a real MB Diesel with it's tranny would be very nice. Those > old > >> British cast iron engines weren't light, and you can always beef up the > >> springs. > >>> On Wed, Jul 17, 2019 at 5:00 PM Curt Raymond > >> wrote: > >>> > >>> How heavy is it? I was going to make fun of it at first but the engine > >> in a 201 is quite substantial. > >>> For a little diesel sports car I'd look to a TDI. The old VE engines > >> like my '98 had can be souped up to 150hp which doesn't sound like too > much > >> but remember its a 4 cylinder 1.9l diesel. Very small and fairly light, > >> like under 400#.The new common rail 2.0l engines start at 150hp in a > >> similar size package. I don't know the weight but it can't be a lot more > >> although the associated electronics are a bigger deal. > >>> > >>> -Curt > >>> > >>> On Wednesday, July 17, 2019, 5:40:43 PM EDT, OK Don via Mercedes < > >> mercedes@okiebenz.com> wrote: > >>> > >>> I was thinking that it would nice in a Triumph GT-6+, or MGBGT --- > >>> > >>> > >>> > >>> > >>> > >>> -- > >>> OK Don > >>> "Whenever you find yourself on the side of the majority, it is time to > >> pause and reflect." Mark Twain > >>> "There are three kinds of men: The ones that learns by reading. The few > >> who learn by observation. The rest of them have to pee on the electric > >> fence for themselves." > >>> > >>> WILL ROGERS, The Manly Wisdom of Will Rogers > >>> 2013 F150, 18 mpg2017 Subaru Legacy, 30 mpg1957 C182A, 12 mpg - but at > >> 150 mph! > >>> ___ > >>> http://www.okiebenz.com > >>> > >>> To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ > >>> > >>> To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: > >>> http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com > >>> > >> > >> ___ > >> http://www.okiebenz.com > >> > >> To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ > >> > >> To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: > >> http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com > >> > >> > > > > -- > > OK Don > > > > "Whenever you find yourself on the side of the majority, it is time to > > pause and reflect." Mark Twain > > > > "There are three kinds of men: The ones that learns by reading. The few > who > > learn by observation. The rest of them have to pee on the electric fence > > for themselves." > > > > WILL ROGERS, *The Manly Wisdom of Will Rogers* > > 2013 F150, 18 mpg > > 2017 Subaru Legacy, 30 mpg > > 1957 C182A, 12 mpg - but at 150 mph! > > ___ > > http://www.okiebenz.com > > > > To search list
Re: [MBZ] The $500E300 did its job tonight
Time to create the wreck in reverse. Unbolt the hood, once you get it open, Pull the front grill and bumper, so you can get to the frame structure and have a good look for wrinkled paint [indicates frame bends, if any] Drill 3/8 hole where the sheet metal needs pulled forward, put a metal plate behind the bolt so it doesn't pull through the skin, or wide area washers. bolt through a link of chain of the pull side, and get your 3 ton come along hooked to a tree... pull the inner fender forward. Repeat as necessary to stretch the wrinkles out... hammer and dolly while under load to help smooth the damage... Might unbolt the fender to access the inner structure better... Hit pick and pull for what is to broken to smooth out, like the hood. On Thu, Jul 18, 2019 at 6:35 AM Floyd Thursby via Mercedes < mercedes@okiebenz.com> wrote: > Thanks. > > I pulled the pass door open yesterday, it was hanging on the fender just > a bit, wasn't sprung, closed OK. Got me wondering now if the thing > might actually be fixable. That might just be the fender mashed back > from the hit. Engine wouldn't turn over, I'm wondering if when the > airbag deployed it activated some cutout to shut off the engine. I > haven't fooled around with it to pop the hood yet and assess what > happened inside, but most of the damage seems to be the lower right, > pushed in the bumper bar and the intercooler and I guess tore up the > radiator as I think it lost the coolant. I might have some time later > to try to get the hood open, will get some pics. > > hmperhaps the $500E300 will live another day! > > --FT > > On 7/18/19 7:46 AM, Rick Knoble via Mercedes wrote: > > Glad you are okay. It's never a good thing to total out a car, but it's > always a good thing to be able to walk away from the wreck. > > > > Rick > > > > ___ > > http://www.okiebenz.com > > > > To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ > > > > To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: > > http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com > > > > > -- > --FT > > > ___ > http://www.okiebenz.com > > To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ > > To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: > http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com > > ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] The $500E300 did its job tonight
They put a diesel in the Colorado/Canyon also. Unless you're into diesel pickups you've probably never heard of it... -Curt On Thursday, July 18, 2019, 11:40:34 AM EDT, Allan Streib via Mercedes wrote: Mitch Haley via Mercedes writes: > Metro would need a tiny diesel, like a VW TDI or a 1.6L Clean Turbo > Diesel (CTD). Unfortunately, General Motors, after totally failing to > advertise or try to sell the 1.6 CTD for three years, has announced > that it won't be available in 2020 Equinox or Terrain (and they > already announced there won't be any 2020 Cruze, diesel or gas). No kidding failed to market... I didn't even know there was a Cruze (or any other GM) diesel car being produced. Anyone know how they hold up? I see a new 2019 listed near here and it is 9-speed automatic transmission which sounds potentially fragile, all by itself. Allan ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] The $500E300 did its job tonight
Mitch Haley via Mercedes writes: > Metro would need a tiny diesel, like a VW TDI or a 1.6L Clean Turbo > Diesel (CTD). Unfortunately, General Motors, after totally failing to > advertise or try to sell the 1.6 CTD for three years, has announced > that it won't be available in 2020 Equinox or Terrain (and they > already announced there won't be any 2020 Cruze, diesel or gas). No kidding failed to market... I didn't even know there was a Cruze (or any other GM) diesel car being produced. Anyone know how they hold up? I see a new 2019 listed near here and it is 9-speed automatic transmission which sounds potentially fragile, all by itself. Allan ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] The $500E300 did its job tonight
Detroit Diesel 20V-149. That’s what you need. We used these on very large (2mW) generator sets. One big, honkin’ engine. Sucked fuel so badly you could watch the level in the day tank drop when they were running under load. Here’s a link to a picture of one with six guys in front of it to give you an idea of scale: https://www.thedieselgarage.com/forums/64-medium-heavy-duty/52316-help-v12-detroit-diesel-3.html#post847418 -D > On Jul 18, 2019, at 10:43 AM, Curt Raymond via Mercedes > wrote: > > Just put a saddle on the engine... > Actually, that'd be kinda cool, get one of those massive Detroit engines like > the 16cyl Deboss blew up. Make a wheeled chassis and put a saddle on the > engine. Figure out a way to have reins for controls. It'd be a hot ride > though... > > -Curt > >On Thursday, July 18, 2019, 10:39:59 AM EDT, OK Don via Mercedes > wrote: > > YES! That would be nice, of course, didn't someone put an Allison V12 into > (or under) one in the '60's? > > On Wed, Jul 17, 2019 at 9:03 PM Kevin Kraly via Mercedes < > mercedes@okiebenz.com> wrote: > >> It would be nice to install a TDI in my nephew’s little 1960 Nash >> Metropolitan!! >> Kevin in Hillsboro, OR >> >> Sent from my iPhone >> >>> On Jul 17, 2019, at 6:17 PM, Curt Raymond via Mercedes < >> mercedes@okiebenz.com> wrote: >>> >>> Just because its sideways mounted in a VW doesn't mean it can't be >> inline elsewhere. In fact the '99.5-05 Passats had the engine mounted >> inline. Pretty weird that VW made both and weird that they had an inline, >> front drive... >>> Lots of people put TDI engines in lots of things... >>> -Curt >>> >>> On Wednesday, July 17, 2019, 6:31:00 PM EDT, OK Don >> wrote: >>> >>> It needs to stay rear wheel drive - I guess someone is making adapter >> kits, but a real MB Diesel with it's tranny would be very nice. Those old >> British cast iron engines weren't light, and you can always beef up the >> springs. >>> On Wed, Jul 17, 2019 at 5:00 PM Curt Raymond >> wrote: >>> >>> How heavy is it? I was going to make fun of it at first but the engine >> in a 201 is quite substantial. >>> For a little diesel sports car I'd look to a TDI. The old VE engines >> like my '98 had can be souped up to 150hp which doesn't sound like too much >> but remember its a 4 cylinder 1.9l diesel. Very small and fairly light, >> like under 400#.The new common rail 2.0l engines start at 150hp in a >> similar size package. I don't know the weight but it can't be a lot more >> although the associated electronics are a bigger deal. >>> >>> -Curt >>> >>> On Wednesday, July 17, 2019, 5:40:43 PM EDT, OK Don via Mercedes < >> mercedes@okiebenz.com> wrote: >>> >>> I was thinking that it would nice in a Triumph GT-6+, or MGBGT --- >>> >>> >>> >>> >>> >>> -- >>> OK Don >>> "Whenever you find yourself on the side of the majority, it is time to >> pause and reflect." Mark Twain >>> "There are three kinds of men: The ones that learns by reading. The few >> who learn by observation. The rest of them have to pee on the electric >> fence for themselves." >>> >>> WILL ROGERS, The Manly Wisdom of Will Rogers >>> 2013 F150, 18 mpg2017 Subaru Legacy, 30 mpg1957 C182A, 12 mpg - but at >> 150 mph! >>> ___ >>> http://www.okiebenz.com >>> >>> To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ >>> >>> To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: >>> http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com >>> >> >> ___ >> http://www.okiebenz.com >> >> To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ >> >> To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: >> http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com >> >> > > -- > OK Don > > "Whenever you find yourself on the side of the majority, it is time to > pause and reflect." Mark Twain > > "There are three kinds of men: The ones that learns by reading. The few who > learn by observation. The rest of them have to pee on the electric fence > for themselves." > > WILL ROGERS, *The Manly Wisdom of Will Rogers* > 2013 F150, 18 mpg > 2017 Subaru Legacy, 30 mpg > 1957 C182A, 12 mpg - but at 150 mph! > ___ > http://www.okiebenz.com > > To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ > > To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: > http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com > > > ___ > http://www.okiebenz.com > > To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ > > To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: > http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com > ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] The $500E300 did its job tonight
The 1.4 TDI Polo is a three cylinder. I wonder if it shares any parts with the 1.9 four cylinder. > On July 18, 2019 at 10:02 AM Curt Raymond via Mercedes > wrote: > > > That would be hilarious. > They made (or make maybe still) even smaller engines for the rest of the > world. I'm pretty sure there are even 3 cylinder versions... > I ended up giving away the '98 just to get rid of it but I really wanted to > keep the engine and put it in something like a CJ5... ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] The $500E300 did its job tonight
GM has bungled the Cruze diesel almost as badly as they did diesel cars in the late '70s. The difference being that this was marketing bungling vs just bad engines the first time around. The original Cruze diesel was a top end car, no manual transmission, all the bells and whistles, that they somehow thought they were going to sell to cheapskates who wanted 50mpg... -Curt On Wednesday, July 17, 2019, 11:30:59 PM EDT, Mitch Haley via Mercedes wrote: Metro would need a tiny diesel, like a VW TDI or a 1.6L Clean Turbo Diesel (CTD). Unfortunately, General Motors, after totally failing to advertise or try to sell the 1.6 CTD for three years, has announced that it won't be available in 2020 Equinox or Terrain (and they already announced there won't be any 2020 Cruze, diesel or gas). Mitch. > On July 17, 2019 at 10:02 PM Kevin Kraly via Mercedes > wrote: > > > It would be nice to install a TDI in my nephew’s little 1960 Nash > Metropolitan!! ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] The $500E300 did its job tonight
Just put a saddle on the engine... Actually, that'd be kinda cool, get one of those massive Detroit engines like the 16cyl Deboss blew up. Make a wheeled chassis and put a saddle on the engine. Figure out a way to have reins for controls. It'd be a hot ride though... -Curt On Thursday, July 18, 2019, 10:39:59 AM EDT, OK Don via Mercedes wrote: YES! That would be nice, of course, didn't someone put an Allison V12 into (or under) one in the '60's? On Wed, Jul 17, 2019 at 9:03 PM Kevin Kraly via Mercedes < mercedes@okiebenz.com> wrote: > It would be nice to install a TDI in my nephew’s little 1960 Nash > Metropolitan!! > Kevin in Hillsboro, OR > > Sent from my iPhone > > > On Jul 17, 2019, at 6:17 PM, Curt Raymond via Mercedes < > mercedes@okiebenz.com> wrote: > > > > Just because its sideways mounted in a VW doesn't mean it can't be > inline elsewhere. In fact the '99.5-05 Passats had the engine mounted > inline. Pretty weird that VW made both and weird that they had an inline, > front drive... > > Lots of people put TDI engines in lots of things... > > -Curt > > > > On Wednesday, July 17, 2019, 6:31:00 PM EDT, OK Don > wrote: > > > > It needs to stay rear wheel drive - I guess someone is making adapter > kits, but a real MB Diesel with it's tranny would be very nice. Those old > British cast iron engines weren't light, and you can always beef up the > springs. > > On Wed, Jul 17, 2019 at 5:00 PM Curt Raymond > wrote: > > > > How heavy is it? I was going to make fun of it at first but the engine > in a 201 is quite substantial. > > For a little diesel sports car I'd look to a TDI. The old VE engines > like my '98 had can be souped up to 150hp which doesn't sound like too much > but remember its a 4 cylinder 1.9l diesel. Very small and fairly light, > like under 400#.The new common rail 2.0l engines start at 150hp in a > similar size package. I don't know the weight but it can't be a lot more > although the associated electronics are a bigger deal. > > > > -Curt > > > > On Wednesday, July 17, 2019, 5:40:43 PM EDT, OK Don via Mercedes < > mercedes@okiebenz.com> wrote: > > > > I was thinking that it would nice in a Triumph GT-6+, or MGBGT --- > > > > > > > > > > > > -- > > OK Don > > "Whenever you find yourself on the side of the majority, it is time to > pause and reflect." Mark Twain > > "There are three kinds of men: The ones that learns by reading. The few > who learn by observation. The rest of them have to pee on the electric > fence for themselves." > > > > WILL ROGERS, The Manly Wisdom of Will Rogers > > 2013 F150, 18 mpg2017 Subaru Legacy, 30 mpg1957 C182A, 12 mpg - but at > 150 mph! > > ___ > > http://www.okiebenz.com > > > > To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ > > > > To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: > > http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com > > > > ___ > http://www.okiebenz.com > > To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ > > To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: > http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com > > -- OK Don "Whenever you find yourself on the side of the majority, it is time to pause and reflect." Mark Twain "There are three kinds of men: The ones that learns by reading. The few who learn by observation. The rest of them have to pee on the electric fence for themselves." WILL ROGERS, *The Manly Wisdom of Will Rogers* 2013 F150, 18 mpg 2017 Subaru Legacy, 30 mpg 1957 C182A, 12 mpg - but at 150 mph! ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] The $500E300 did its job tonight
YES! That would be nice, of course, didn't someone put an Allison V12 into (or under) one in the '60's? On Wed, Jul 17, 2019 at 9:03 PM Kevin Kraly via Mercedes < mercedes@okiebenz.com> wrote: > It would be nice to install a TDI in my nephew’s little 1960 Nash > Metropolitan!! > Kevin in Hillsboro, OR > > Sent from my iPhone > > > On Jul 17, 2019, at 6:17 PM, Curt Raymond via Mercedes < > mercedes@okiebenz.com> wrote: > > > > Just because its sideways mounted in a VW doesn't mean it can't be > inline elsewhere. In fact the '99.5-05 Passats had the engine mounted > inline. Pretty weird that VW made both and weird that they had an inline, > front drive... > > Lots of people put TDI engines in lots of things... > > -Curt > > > >On Wednesday, July 17, 2019, 6:31:00 PM EDT, OK Don > wrote: > > > > It needs to stay rear wheel drive - I guess someone is making adapter > kits, but a real MB Diesel with it's tranny would be very nice. Those old > British cast iron engines weren't light, and you can always beef up the > springs. > > On Wed, Jul 17, 2019 at 5:00 PM Curt Raymond > wrote: > > > > How heavy is it? I was going to make fun of it at first but the engine > in a 201 is quite substantial. > > For a little diesel sports car I'd look to a TDI. The old VE engines > like my '98 had can be souped up to 150hp which doesn't sound like too much > but remember its a 4 cylinder 1.9l diesel. Very small and fairly light, > like under 400#.The new common rail 2.0l engines start at 150hp in a > similar size package. I don't know the weight but it can't be a lot more > although the associated electronics are a bigger deal. > > > > -Curt > > > >On Wednesday, July 17, 2019, 5:40:43 PM EDT, OK Don via Mercedes < > mercedes@okiebenz.com> wrote: > > > > I was thinking that it would nice in a Triumph GT-6+, or MGBGT --- > > > > > > > > > > > > -- > > OK Don > > "Whenever you find yourself on the side of the majority, it is time to > pause and reflect." Mark Twain > > "There are three kinds of men: The ones that learns by reading. The few > who learn by observation. The rest of them have to pee on the electric > fence for themselves." > > > > WILL ROGERS, The Manly Wisdom of Will Rogers > > 2013 F150, 18 mpg2017 Subaru Legacy, 30 mpg1957 C182A, 12 mpg - but at > 150 mph! > > ___ > > http://www.okiebenz.com > > > > To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ > > > > To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: > > http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com > > > > ___ > http://www.okiebenz.com > > To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ > > To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: > http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com > > -- OK Don "Whenever you find yourself on the side of the majority, it is time to pause and reflect." Mark Twain "There are three kinds of men: The ones that learns by reading. The few who learn by observation. The rest of them have to pee on the electric fence for themselves." WILL ROGERS, *The Manly Wisdom of Will Rogers* 2013 F150, 18 mpg 2017 Subaru Legacy, 30 mpg 1957 C182A, 12 mpg - but at 150 mph! ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] The $500E300 did its job tonight
That would be hilarious. They made (or make maybe still) even smaller engines for the rest of the world. I'm pretty sure there are even 3 cylinder versions... I ended up giving away the '98 just to get rid of it but I really wanted to keep the engine and put it in something like a CJ5... -Curt On Wednesday, July 17, 2019, 10:03:21 PM EDT, Kevin Kraly via Mercedes wrote: It would be nice to install a TDI in my nephew’s little 1960 Nash Metropolitan!! Kevin in Hillsboro, OR Sent from my iPhone > On Jul 17, 2019, at 6:17 PM, Curt Raymond via Mercedes > wrote: > > Just because its sideways mounted in a VW doesn't mean it can't be inline > elsewhere. In fact the '99.5-05 Passats had the engine mounted inline. Pretty > weird that VW made both and weird that they had an inline, front drive... > Lots of people put TDI engines in lots of things... > -Curt > > On Wednesday, July 17, 2019, 6:31:00 PM EDT, OK Don >wrote: > > It needs to stay rear wheel drive - I guess someone is making adapter kits, > but a real MB Diesel with it's tranny would be very nice. Those old British > cast iron engines weren't light, and you can always beef up the springs. > On Wed, Jul 17, 2019 at 5:00 PM Curt Raymond wrote: > > How heavy is it? I was going to make fun of it at first but the engine in a > 201 is quite substantial. > For a little diesel sports car I'd look to a TDI. The old VE engines like my > '98 had can be souped up to 150hp which doesn't sound like too much but > remember its a 4 cylinder 1.9l diesel. Very small and fairly light, like > under 400#.The new common rail 2.0l engines start at 150hp in a similar size > package. I don't know the weight but it can't be a lot more although the > associated electronics are a bigger deal. > > -Curt > > On Wednesday, July 17, 2019, 5:40:43 PM EDT, OK Don via Mercedes > wrote: > > I was thinking that it would nice in a Triumph GT-6+, or MGBGT --- > > > > > > -- > OK Don > "Whenever you find yourself on the side of the majority, it is time to pause > and reflect." Mark Twain > "There are three kinds of men: The ones that learns by reading. The few who > learn by observation. The rest of them have to pee on the electric fence for > themselves." > > WILL ROGERS, The Manly Wisdom of Will Rogers > 2013 F150, 18 mpg2017 Subaru Legacy, 30 mpg1957 C182A, 12 mpg - but at 150 > mph! > ___ > http://www.okiebenz.com > > To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ > > To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: > http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com > ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] The $500E300 did its job tonight
Thanks. I pulled the pass door open yesterday, it was hanging on the fender just a bit, wasn't sprung, closed OK. Got me wondering now if the thing might actually be fixable. That might just be the fender mashed back from the hit. Engine wouldn't turn over, I'm wondering if when the airbag deployed it activated some cutout to shut off the engine. I haven't fooled around with it to pop the hood yet and assess what happened inside, but most of the damage seems to be the lower right, pushed in the bumper bar and the intercooler and I guess tore up the radiator as I think it lost the coolant. I might have some time later to try to get the hood open, will get some pics. hmperhaps the $500E300 will live another day! --FT On 7/18/19 7:46 AM, Rick Knoble via Mercedes wrote: Glad you are okay. It's never a good thing to total out a car, but it's always a good thing to be able to walk away from the wreck. Rick ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com -- --FT ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] The $500E300 did its job tonight
Glad you are okay. It's never a good thing to total out a car, but it's always a good thing to be able to walk away from the wreck. Rick ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
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Metro would need a tiny diesel, like a VW TDI or a 1.6L Clean Turbo Diesel (CTD). Unfortunately, General Motors, after totally failing to advertise or try to sell the 1.6 CTD for three years, has announced that it won't be available in 2020 Equinox or Terrain (and they already announced there won't be any 2020 Cruze, diesel or gas). Mitch. > On July 17, 2019 at 10:02 PM Kevin Kraly via Mercedes > wrote: > > > It would be nice to install a TDI in my nephew’s little 1960 Nash > Metropolitan!! ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] The $500E300 did its job tonight
It would be nice to install a TDI in my nephew’s little 1960 Nash Metropolitan!! Kevin in Hillsboro, OR Sent from my iPhone > On Jul 17, 2019, at 6:17 PM, Curt Raymond via Mercedes > wrote: > > Just because its sideways mounted in a VW doesn't mean it can't be inline > elsewhere. In fact the '99.5-05 Passats had the engine mounted inline. Pretty > weird that VW made both and weird that they had an inline, front drive... > Lots of people put TDI engines in lots of things... > -Curt > >On Wednesday, July 17, 2019, 6:31:00 PM EDT, OK Don > wrote: > > It needs to stay rear wheel drive - I guess someone is making adapter kits, > but a real MB Diesel with it's tranny would be very nice. Those old British > cast iron engines weren't light, and you can always beef up the springs. > On Wed, Jul 17, 2019 at 5:00 PM Curt Raymond wrote: > > How heavy is it? I was going to make fun of it at first but the engine in a > 201 is quite substantial. > For a little diesel sports car I'd look to a TDI. The old VE engines like my > '98 had can be souped up to 150hp which doesn't sound like too much but > remember its a 4 cylinder 1.9l diesel. Very small and fairly light, like > under 400#.The new common rail 2.0l engines start at 150hp in a similar size > package. I don't know the weight but it can't be a lot more although the > associated electronics are a bigger deal. > > -Curt > >On Wednesday, July 17, 2019, 5:40:43 PM EDT, OK Don via Mercedes > wrote: > > I was thinking that it would nice in a Triumph GT-6+, or MGBGT --- > > > > > > -- > OK Don > "Whenever you find yourself on the side of the majority, it is time to pause > and reflect." Mark Twain > "There are three kinds of men: The ones that learns by reading. The few who > learn by observation. The rest of them have to pee on the electric fence for > themselves." > > WILL ROGERS, The Manly Wisdom of Will Rogers > 2013 F150, 18 mpg2017 Subaru Legacy, 30 mpg1957 C182A, 12 mpg - but at 150 > mph! > ___ > http://www.okiebenz.com > > To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ > > To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: > http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com > ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] The $500E300 did its job tonight
Just because its sideways mounted in a VW doesn't mean it can't be inline elsewhere. In fact the '99.5-05 Passats had the engine mounted inline. Pretty weird that VW made both and weird that they had an inline, front drive... Lots of people put TDI engines in lots of things... -Curt On Wednesday, July 17, 2019, 6:31:00 PM EDT, OK Don wrote: It needs to stay rear wheel drive - I guess someone is making adapter kits, but a real MB Diesel with it's tranny would be very nice. Those old British cast iron engines weren't light, and you can always beef up the springs. On Wed, Jul 17, 2019 at 5:00 PM Curt Raymond wrote: How heavy is it? I was going to make fun of it at first but the engine in a 201 is quite substantial. For a little diesel sports car I'd look to a TDI. The old VE engines like my '98 had can be souped up to 150hp which doesn't sound like too much but remember its a 4 cylinder 1.9l diesel. Very small and fairly light, like under 400#.The new common rail 2.0l engines start at 150hp in a similar size package. I don't know the weight but it can't be a lot more although the associated electronics are a bigger deal. -Curt On Wednesday, July 17, 2019, 5:40:43 PM EDT, OK Don via Mercedes wrote: I was thinking that it would nice in a Triumph GT-6+, or MGBGT --- -- OK Don "Whenever you find yourself on the side of the majority, it is time to pause and reflect." Mark Twain "There are three kinds of men: The ones that learns by reading. The few who learn by observation. The rest of them have to pee on the electric fence for themselves." WILL ROGERS, The Manly Wisdom of Will Rogers 2013 F150, 18 mpg2017 Subaru Legacy, 30 mpg1957 C182A, 12 mpg - but at 150 mph! ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] The $500E300 did its job tonight
Yes, they would work better, but they're not Diesels! On Wed, Jul 17, 2019 at 5:11 PM Mitch Haley via Mercedes < mercedes@okiebenz.com> wrote: > > But isn't a 603/606 a little heavy for one of those? > I think a modern aluminum 250-300hp four cylinder would be nice in those, > but wrecked Mustangs and Camaros with good drivetrains keep selling for > well north of $10k, and Malibus come with the wrong transmission. > Mitch. > > > On July 17, 2019 at 5:39 PM OK Don via Mercedes > wrote: > > > > > > I was thinking that it would nice in a Triumph GT-6+, or MGBGT --- > > -- OK Don "Whenever you find yourself on the side of the majority, it is time to pause and reflect." Mark Twain "There are three kinds of men: The ones that learns by reading. The few who learn by observation. The rest of them have to pee on the electric fence for themselves." WILL ROGERS, *The Manly Wisdom of Will Rogers* 2013 F150, 18 mpg 2017 Subaru Legacy, 30 mpg 1957 C182A, 12 mpg - but at 150 mph! ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] The $500E300 did its job tonight
But isn't a 603/606 a little heavy for one of those? I think a modern aluminum 250-300hp four cylinder would be nice in those, but wrecked Mustangs and Camaros with good drivetrains keep selling for well north of $10k, and Malibus come with the wrong transmission. Mitch. > On July 17, 2019 at 5:39 PM OK Don via Mercedes wrote: > > > I was thinking that it would nice in a Triumph GT-6+, or MGBGT --- ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] The $500E300 did its job tonight
How heavy is it? I was going to make fun of it at first but the engine in a 201 is quite substantial. For a little diesel sports car I'd look to a TDI. The old VE engines like my '98 had can be souped up to 150hp which doesn't sound like too much but remember its a 4 cylinder 1.9l diesel. Very small and fairly light, like under 400#.The new common rail 2.0l engines start at 150hp in a similar size package. I don't know the weight but it can't be a lot more although the associated electronics are a bigger deal. -Curt On Wednesday, July 17, 2019, 5:40:43 PM EDT, OK Don via Mercedes wrote: I was thinking that it would nice in a Triumph GT-6+, or MGBGT --- On Wed, Jul 17, 2019 at 1:01 PM Mitch Haley via Mercedes < mercedes@okiebenz.com> wrote: > Pull the engine, transmission, computers, shifter, and all associated > wiring harnesses. > Would go nice in a W124, W201, or W210. If not a W210, just get an > aftermarket intercooler. > A W124/201 with 24v turbo diesel and electronic overdrive transmission > would be sort of unique. > > Mitch. > > ___ > http://www.okiebenz.com > > To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ > > To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: > http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com > > -- OK Don "Whenever you find yourself on the side of the majority, it is time to pause and reflect." Mark Twain "There are three kinds of men: The ones that learns by reading. The few who learn by observation. The rest of them have to pee on the electric fence for themselves." WILL ROGERS, *The Manly Wisdom of Will Rogers* 2013 F150, 18 mpg 2017 Subaru Legacy, 30 mpg 1957 C182A, 12 mpg - but at 150 mph! ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] The $500E300 did its job tonight
I was thinking that it would nice in a Triumph GT-6+, or MGBGT --- On Wed, Jul 17, 2019 at 1:01 PM Mitch Haley via Mercedes < mercedes@okiebenz.com> wrote: > Pull the engine, transmission, computers, shifter, and all associated > wiring harnesses. > Would go nice in a W124, W201, or W210. If not a W210, just get an > aftermarket intercooler. > A W124/201 with 24v turbo diesel and electronic overdrive transmission > would be sort of unique. > > Mitch. > > ___ > http://www.okiebenz.com > > To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ > > To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: > http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com > > -- OK Don "Whenever you find yourself on the side of the majority, it is time to pause and reflect." Mark Twain "There are three kinds of men: The ones that learns by reading. The few who learn by observation. The rest of them have to pee on the electric fence for themselves." WILL ROGERS, *The Manly Wisdom of Will Rogers* 2013 F150, 18 mpg 2017 Subaru Legacy, 30 mpg 1957 C182A, 12 mpg - but at 150 mph! ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] The $500E300 did its job tonight
I need a W210 shifter if you part it out. They’re always gone at the P here when I’ve gone to look. My lockout solenoid on the shifter on my 98 wagon is dead, so I can shift whenever, wherever. -D > On Jul 17, 2019, at 2:01 PM, Mitch Haley via Mercedes > wrote: > > Pull the engine, transmission, computers, shifter, and all associated wiring > harnesses. > Would go nice in a W124, W201, or W210. If not a W210, just get an > aftermarket intercooler. > A W124/201 with 24v turbo diesel and electronic overdrive transmission would > be sort of unique. > > Mitch. > > ___ > http://www.okiebenz.com > > To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ > > To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: > http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com > > ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] The $500E300 did its job tonight
Pull the engine, transmission, computers, shifter, and all associated wiring harnesses. Would go nice in a W124, W201, or W210. If not a W210, just get an aftermarket intercooler. A W124/201 with 24v turbo diesel and electronic overdrive transmission would be sort of unique. Mitch. ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] The $500E300 did its job tonight
327kmi. Runs great. Has burned no oil since I changed it a coupla months ago, a few kmi. I’m thinking it needs to go in something. The intercooler was smashed. --R Sent from iPhone > On Jul 17, 2019, at 12:05 PM, Karl Wittnebel via Mercedes > wrote: > > The motor is worth money. Save it. It will drop into any w124 300d, ideally > a 1995. Intercooler piping needs some customization. How many miles are on > it? I need one for when the current one blows up. > > On Tue, Jul 16, 2019, 9:21 AM Floyd Thursby via Mercedes < > mercedes@okiebenz.com> wrote: > >> Haha, yeah "insurance" I do have to call and cancel it though. >> >> Woke up a bit sore this morning but my buddy and I went to collect the >> car, load it on the trailer, which was a bit of an effort but that >> worked out the kinks. So the car is back home. Couldn't get the hood >> popped, will have to work on that at some point. Intercooler is all >> bent up so that part is dead. I don't think much else got damaged, the >> radiator probably gone. Most of the damage is low on pass side front, >> and the fender pushed back. I don't think it is fixable so will have to >> become parts. Good new tires on it so those can be recycled to >> something. At some point I'll dismantle it and save the good bits and >> take the hulk to the knacker, get a few $$ for it. It ran great so the >> engine and tranny are good, I wonder what that would transplant into, >> get a diesel again! Would it be a drop-in on any 210? >> >> --FT >> >> >>> On 7/16/19 11:47 AM, Curt Raymond via Mercedes wrote: >>> What insurance? Would someone carry comprehensive insurance on a $500 >> car? >> >> -- >> --FT >> >> >> ___ >> http://www.okiebenz.com >> >> To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ >> >> To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: >> http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com >> >> > ___ > http://www.okiebenz.com > > To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ > > To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: > http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com > ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] The $500E300 did its job tonight
The motor is worth money. Save it. It will drop into any w124 300d, ideally a 1995. Intercooler piping needs some customization. How many miles are on it? I need one for when the current one blows up. On Tue, Jul 16, 2019, 9:21 AM Floyd Thursby via Mercedes < mercedes@okiebenz.com> wrote: > Haha, yeah "insurance" I do have to call and cancel it though. > > Woke up a bit sore this morning but my buddy and I went to collect the > car, load it on the trailer, which was a bit of an effort but that > worked out the kinks. So the car is back home. Couldn't get the hood > popped, will have to work on that at some point. Intercooler is all > bent up so that part is dead. I don't think much else got damaged, the > radiator probably gone. Most of the damage is low on pass side front, > and the fender pushed back. I don't think it is fixable so will have to > become parts. Good new tires on it so those can be recycled to > something. At some point I'll dismantle it and save the good bits and > take the hulk to the knacker, get a few $$ for it. It ran great so the > engine and tranny are good, I wonder what that would transplant into, > get a diesel again! Would it be a drop-in on any 210? > > --FT > > > On 7/16/19 11:47 AM, Curt Raymond via Mercedes wrote: > > What insurance? Would someone carry comprehensive insurance on a $500 > car? > > -- > --FT > > > ___ > http://www.okiebenz.com > > To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ > > To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: > http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com > > ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] The $500E300 did its job tonight
Glad you are well and the w210 was able to see you walk away from the encounter clay > On Jul 15, 2019, at 7:50 PM, Buggered Benzmail via Mercedes > wrote: > > Rode to a community meeting this evening with a buddy. Left his house to come > home about 930. We had big tstorm roll through earlier. Driving down the road > a BIG oak tree falls in the road right in front of me. I guess the storm had > weakened the tree. I hit it full on at 45mph, managed to stomp the brakes but > road was wet so not much good there even though I felt the ABS. Airbag > deployed but I don’t think I hit it, seat belt tensioner must have fired. I’m > ok just a bit rattled. I’ll probably be sore in the morning but right now Mr > Basil Hayden is ministering my aches. > > I left the car by the road will go over in the morning with the trailer and > retrieve it. FD came and cut up the tree and got the road cleared. A good ol > boy with a pickup with a winch pulled the car off the road. > > I guess the car is probably not worth saving but I’ll take a look in the > morning once I drag it home. Engine was still running but radiator and front > end smashed pretty good. Pass door wouldn’t open. It’s got a salvage title > been wrecked twice before. I’ll dismantle it and keep all the good bits. > > I’m thankful I didn’t arrive 1/2second sooner, that might not have ended > quite as well. > > And how was YOUR evening? > > > > --FT > Sent from iPhone___ > http://www.okiebenz.com > > To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ > > To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: > http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com > ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
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No, town drunk for a different town, in Wisconsin. -- Max Dillon Charleston SC On July 16, 2019 5:30:04 PM EDT, Randy Bennell via Mercedes wrote: >Did that involve Teddy K? > >Wouldn't happen that way here. Police officer would testify that the >accused exhibited signs of impairment etc. If the accused was in >possession of the car keys, he would be found guilty. > > >On 16/07/2019 1:02 PM, Max Dillon via Mercedes wrote: >> A lawyer friend defended a similar case, driver crashed car, was on >scene and wondering around for about thirty minutes. Deputy arrived, >noted smell of alcohol, driver failed the field sobriety test and >breathalyzer. >> >> At court, deputy testified that he did not see driver operating the >car, did not observe when the drinking occurred. Driver was not >advised of Miranda rights, so any confession was not admissible under >the fifth amendment. Government could not prove when the alcohol was >consumed, and adequate time has passed between crash and arrival of >deputy that driver could have become impaired after the crash. Not >guilty. > > > >___ >http://www.okiebenz.com > >To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ > >To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: >http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
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Miranda only applies to interrogation, and possibly only to interrogation after arrest. If the guy just blabs, they're good to go. Mitch. > On 16/07/2019 1:02 PM, Max Dillon via Mercedes wrote: > > At court, deputy testified that he did not see driver operating the car, > > did not observe when the drinking occurred. Driver was not advised of > > Miranda rights, so any confession was not admissible under the fifth > > amendment. Government could not prove when the alcohol was consumed, and > > adequate time has passed between crash and arrival of deputy that driver > > could have become impaired after the crash. Not guilty. ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
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Did that involve Teddy K? Wouldn't happen that way here. Police officer would testify that the accused exhibited signs of impairment etc. If the accused was in possession of the car keys, he would be found guilty. On 16/07/2019 1:02 PM, Max Dillon via Mercedes wrote: A lawyer friend defended a similar case, driver crashed car, was on scene and wondering around for about thirty minutes. Deputy arrived, noted smell of alcohol, driver failed the field sobriety test and breathalyzer. At court, deputy testified that he did not see driver operating the car, did not observe when the drinking occurred. Driver was not advised of Miranda rights, so any confession was not admissible under the fifth amendment. Government could not prove when the alcohol was consumed, and adequate time has passed between crash and arrival of deputy that driver could have become impaired after the crash. Not guilty. ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
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On 16/07/2019 1:12 PM, Andrew Strasfogel via Mercedes wrote: The law is an ass. ONLY if it happens to be against you. ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
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But that is in the USA, with a bill of rights; that the founders did not believe were necessary, because they were "obvious" Not so in any other country. Canada, for all its good things, was a Brit colony until pretty recently. It still has the vestiges of the "crown" court. Max Dillon via Mercedes wrote on 7/16/19 1:02 PM: A lawyer friend defended a similar case, driver crashed car, was on scene and wondering around for about thirty minutes. Deputy arrived, noted smell of alcohol, driver failed the field sobriety test and breathalyzer. At court, deputy testified that he did not see driver operating the car, did not observe when the drinking occurred. Driver was not advised of Miranda rights, so any confession was not admissible under the fifth amendment. Government could not prove when the alcohol was consumed, and adequate time has passed between crash and arrival of deputy that driver could have become impaired after the crash. Not guilty. ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
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Ah yeah! Wunna dem wunnerful skandanavian kuntries all the libs wanna move to, but never do. Andrew Strasfogel via Mercedes wrote on 7/16/19 11:59 AM: Norway - back in the late 60s - had the same draconian drunk driving laws. The police can visit you to administer a breathalyzer test; if you fail and your car engine is still warm, you're outta luck. ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
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But Mercedes welders ROCK. On Tue, Jul 16, 2019 at 2:38 PM Dimitri Seretakis via Mercedes < mercedes@okiebenz.com> wrote: > Ouch that sucks! > > Sent from my iPhone > > > On Jul 16, 2019, at 7:20 AM, Meade Dillon via Mercedes < > mercedes@okiebenz.com> wrote: > > > > Wow, sorry to hear about that, and also glad to hear that no ride to the > > hospital required. > > > > Well, those turbo engines have some value if you want to pull and keep > > that. Looks like the intercooler probably got crunched though. There > are > > some other electronic modules that commonly go bad like the K40 relay and > > the gear shifter box, and the radio. > > > > - > > Max > > Charleston SC > > > > > > On Tue, Jul 16, 2019 at 5:08 AM Buggered Benzmail via Mercedes < > > mercedes@okiebenz.com> wrote: > > > >> Rode to a community meeting this evening with a buddy. Left his house to > >> come home about 930. We had big tstorm roll through earlier. Driving > down > >> the road a BIG oak tree falls in the road right in front of me. I guess > the > >> storm had weakened the tree. I hit it full on at 45mph, managed to stomp > >> the brakes but road was wet so not much good there even though I felt > the > >> ABS. Airbag deployed but I don’t think I hit it, seat belt tensioner > must > >> have fired. I’m ok just a bit rattled. I’ll probably be sore in the > morning > >> but right now Mr Basil Hayden is ministering my aches. > >> > >> I left the car by the road will go over in the morning with the trailer > >> and retrieve it. FD came and cut up the tree and got the road cleared. A > >> good ol boy with a pickup with a winch pulled the car off the road. > >> > >> I guess the car is probably not worth saving but I’ll take a look in the > >> morning once I drag it home. Engine was still running but radiator and > >> front end smashed pretty good. Pass door wouldn’t open. It’s got a > salvage > >> title been wrecked twice before. I’ll dismantle it and keep all the good > >> bits. > >> > >> I’m thankful I didn’t arrive 1/2second sooner, that might not have ended > >> quite as well. > >> > >> And how was YOUR evening? > >> > >> > >> > >> --FT > >> Sent from iPhone___ > >> http://www.okiebenz.com > >> > >> To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ > >> > >> To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: > >> http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com > >> > >> > > ___ > > http://www.okiebenz.com > > > > To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ > > > > To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: > > http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com > > > > > ___ > http://www.okiebenz.com > > To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ > > To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: > http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com > > ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
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Ouch that sucks! Sent from my iPhone > On Jul 16, 2019, at 7:20 AM, Meade Dillon via Mercedes > wrote: > > Wow, sorry to hear about that, and also glad to hear that no ride to the > hospital required. > > Well, those turbo engines have some value if you want to pull and keep > that. Looks like the intercooler probably got crunched though. There are > some other electronic modules that commonly go bad like the K40 relay and > the gear shifter box, and the radio. > > - > Max > Charleston SC > > > On Tue, Jul 16, 2019 at 5:08 AM Buggered Benzmail via Mercedes < > mercedes@okiebenz.com> wrote: > >> Rode to a community meeting this evening with a buddy. Left his house to >> come home about 930. We had big tstorm roll through earlier. Driving down >> the road a BIG oak tree falls in the road right in front of me. I guess the >> storm had weakened the tree. I hit it full on at 45mph, managed to stomp >> the brakes but road was wet so not much good there even though I felt the >> ABS. Airbag deployed but I don’t think I hit it, seat belt tensioner must >> have fired. I’m ok just a bit rattled. I’ll probably be sore in the morning >> but right now Mr Basil Hayden is ministering my aches. >> >> I left the car by the road will go over in the morning with the trailer >> and retrieve it. FD came and cut up the tree and got the road cleared. A >> good ol boy with a pickup with a winch pulled the car off the road. >> >> I guess the car is probably not worth saving but I’ll take a look in the >> morning once I drag it home. Engine was still running but radiator and >> front end smashed pretty good. Pass door wouldn’t open. It’s got a salvage >> title been wrecked twice before. I’ll dismantle it and keep all the good >> bits. >> >> I’m thankful I didn’t arrive 1/2second sooner, that might not have ended >> quite as well. >> >> And how was YOUR evening? >> >> >> >> --FT >> Sent from iPhone___ >> http://www.okiebenz.com >> >> To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ >> >> To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: >> http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com >> >> > ___ > http://www.okiebenz.com > > To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ > > To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: > http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com > ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
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The law is an ass. On Tue, Jul 16, 2019 at 2:03 PM Max Dillon via Mercedes < mercedes@okiebenz.com> wrote: > A lawyer friend defended a similar case, driver crashed car, was on scene > and wondering around for about thirty minutes. Deputy arrived, noted smell > of alcohol, driver failed the field sobriety test and breathalyzer. > > At court, deputy testified that he did not see driver operating the car, > did not observe when the drinking occurred. Driver was not advised of > Miranda rights, so any confession was not admissible under the fifth > amendment. Government could not prove when the alcohol was consumed, and > adequate time has passed between crash and arrival of deputy that driver > could have become impaired after the crash. Not guilty. > -- > Max Dillon > Charleston SC > > On July 16, 2019 12:27:14 PM EDT, Randy Bennell via Mercedes < > mercedes@okiebenz.com> wrote: > >On 16/07/2019 11:10 AM, Curt Raymond via Mercedes wrote: > >> Is that evidence always admissible in court? In Canada do you have > >the right to know your accuser? Has this yet been used in a weaponized > >fashion? > >> Seems like reporting the lawmakers who started the law would be a > >really interesting thing, it'd hassle them if nothing else. I'm > >interested in those cases where lawmakers get caught up in their own > >laws. > >> > >> -Curt > >> > >Some of these cases have been successfully fought but at considerable > >expense to the person charged. There is some talk of a constitutional > >challenge but I think there is hope that the Liberal government will be > > > >voted out this fall and the Conservatives will amend the law. > > > >___ > >http://www.okiebenz.com > > > >To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ > > > >To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: > >http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com > > ___ > http://www.okiebenz.com > > To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ > > To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: > http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com > > ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] The $500E300 did its job tonight
A lawyer friend defended a similar case, driver crashed car, was on scene and wondering around for about thirty minutes. Deputy arrived, noted smell of alcohol, driver failed the field sobriety test and breathalyzer. At court, deputy testified that he did not see driver operating the car, did not observe when the drinking occurred. Driver was not advised of Miranda rights, so any confession was not admissible under the fifth amendment. Government could not prove when the alcohol was consumed, and adequate time has passed between crash and arrival of deputy that driver could have become impaired after the crash. Not guilty. -- Max Dillon Charleston SC On July 16, 2019 12:27:14 PM EDT, Randy Bennell via Mercedes wrote: >On 16/07/2019 11:10 AM, Curt Raymond via Mercedes wrote: >> Is that evidence always admissible in court? In Canada do you have >the right to know your accuser? Has this yet been used in a weaponized >fashion? >> Seems like reporting the lawmakers who started the law would be a >really interesting thing, it'd hassle them if nothing else. I'm >interested in those cases where lawmakers get caught up in their own >laws. >> >> -Curt >> >Some of these cases have been successfully fought but at considerable >expense to the person charged. There is some talk of a constitutional >challenge but I think there is hope that the Liberal government will be > >voted out this fall and the Conservatives will amend the law. > >___ >http://www.okiebenz.com > >To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ > >To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: >http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
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On Tue, 16 Jul 2019 13:43:24 -0400 Floyd Thursby via Mercedes wrote: > We have all these "water" oaks on the Island. I don't know if they are > specific type or what, that's what everyone calls them. They get to be > a certain size and they start to rot or are too weak to hold up. If it > rains, the canopy gets wet and heavy, and the ground gets soft, and > down they go. This one actually snapped off right above ground level, > rot or bugs in the trunk or something. Our roads mostly have canopies > of oaks, many live oaks which are actually amazingly strong, so to > minimize the risk the roads would have to be clear cut, which would > cause tremendous outrage, although the newer residents from Off have no > clue and want the trees cut down. Nope, not happening. I found the tree canopies along the road to be an interesting feature of your island. Yes, I can agree, "Nope, not happening." Craig ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] The $500E300 did its job tonight
We have all these "water" oaks on the Island. I don't know if they are specific type or what, that's what everyone calls them. They get to be a certain size and they start to rot or are too weak to hold up. If it rains, the canopy gets wet and heavy, and the ground gets soft, and down they go. This one actually snapped off right above ground level, rot or bugs in the trunk or something. Our roads mostly have canopies of oaks, many live oaks which are actually amazingly strong, so to minimize the risk the roads would have to be clear cut, which would cause tremendous outrage, although the newer residents from Off have no clue and want the trees cut down. Nope, not happening. --FT On 7/16/19 1:15 PM, Randy Bennell via Mercedes wrote: "Act of God" No one's fault unless the county knew the tree was a danger and failed to take appropriate action. On 16/07/2019 12:06 PM, Floyd Thursby via Mercedes wrote: When you live in the country, and the country roads are lined with trees, this is stuff that happens. Just part of life. Basil Hayden is a particularly pleasant Kentucky straight bourbon whiskey, apply internally liberally... quite a cure for what ails ya. Or gets you to the point where you don't care! --FT On 7/16/19 12:57 PM, Craig via Mercedes wrote: On Mon, 15 Jul 2019 23:50:51 -0400 Buggered Benzmail via Mercedes wrote: Rode to a community meeting this evening with a buddy. Left his house to come home about 930. We had big tstorm roll through earlier. Driving down the road a BIG oak tree falls in the road right in front of me. I guess the storm had weakened the tree. I hit it full on at 45mph, managed to stomp the brakes but road was wet so not much good there even though I felt the ABS. Wow. I'm sorry this happened, Rich, but I am glad you are OK. Is your county liable? I’ll probably be sore in the morning but right now Mr Basil Hayden is ministering my aches. Pardon my ignorance, but what is "Mr Basil Hayden"? Craig ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com -- --FT ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
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On Tue, 16 Jul 2019 13:06:52 -0400 Floyd Thursby via Mercedes wrote: > Basil Hayden is a particularly pleasant Kentucky straight bourbon > whiskey, apply internally liberally... quite a cure for what ails ya. > Or gets you to the point where you don't care! Gotcha. I had not heard of that brand. https://www.basilhaydens.com/bourbon-whiskey KENTUCKY STRAIGHT Bourbon Whiskey There’s nothing like that first sip of Basil Hayden’s, whether it be your first ever or the first of the night. See what those who know us best have to say AromaSpice, tea, hint of peppermint TasteSpicy, light-bodied, gentle bite Finish Dry, clean, brief Proof Eighty Craig ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] The $500E300 did its job tonight
"Act of God" No one's fault unless the county knew the tree was a danger and failed to take appropriate action. On 16/07/2019 12:06 PM, Floyd Thursby via Mercedes wrote: When you live in the country, and the country roads are lined with trees, this is stuff that happens. Just part of life. Basil Hayden is a particularly pleasant Kentucky straight bourbon whiskey, apply internally liberally... quite a cure for what ails ya. Or gets you to the point where you don't care! --FT On 7/16/19 12:57 PM, Craig via Mercedes wrote: On Mon, 15 Jul 2019 23:50:51 -0400 Buggered Benzmail via Mercedes wrote: Rode to a community meeting this evening with a buddy. Left his house to come home about 930. We had big tstorm roll through earlier. Driving down the road a BIG oak tree falls in the road right in front of me. I guess the storm had weakened the tree. I hit it full on at 45mph, managed to stomp the brakes but road was wet so not much good there even though I felt the ABS. Wow. I'm sorry this happened, Rich, but I am glad you are OK. Is your county liable? I’ll probably be sore in the morning but right now Mr Basil Hayden is ministering my aches. Pardon my ignorance, but what is "Mr Basil Hayden"? Craig ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] The $500E300 did its job tonight
When you live in the country, and the country roads are lined with trees, this is stuff that happens. Just part of life. Basil Hayden is a particularly pleasant Kentucky straight bourbon whiskey, apply internally liberally... quite a cure for what ails ya. Or gets you to the point where you don't care! --FT On 7/16/19 12:57 PM, Craig via Mercedes wrote: On Mon, 15 Jul 2019 23:50:51 -0400 Buggered Benzmail via Mercedes wrote: Rode to a community meeting this evening with a buddy. Left his house to come home about 930. We had big tstorm roll through earlier. Driving down the road a BIG oak tree falls in the road right in front of me. I guess the storm had weakened the tree. I hit it full on at 45mph, managed to stomp the brakes but road was wet so not much good there even though I felt the ABS. Wow. I'm sorry this happened, Rich, but I am glad you are OK. Is your county liable? I’ll probably be sore in the morning but right now Mr Basil Hayden is ministering my aches. Pardon my ignorance, but what is "Mr Basil Hayden"? Craig ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com -- --FT ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] The $500E300 did its job tonight
Norway - back in the late 60s - had the same draconian drunk driving laws. The police can visit you to administer a breathalyzer test; if you fail and your car engine is still warm, you're outta luck. On Tue, Jul 16, 2019 at 12:27 PM Randy Bennell via Mercedes < mercedes@okiebenz.com> wrote: > On 16/07/2019 11:10 AM, Curt Raymond via Mercedes wrote: > > Is that evidence always admissible in court? In Canada do you have the > right to know your accuser? Has this yet been used in a weaponized fashion? > > Seems like reporting the lawmakers who started the law would be a really > interesting thing, it'd hassle them if nothing else. I'm interested in > those cases where lawmakers get caught up in their own laws. > > > > -Curt > > > Some of these cases have been successfully fought but at considerable > expense to the person charged. There is some talk of a constitutional > challenge but I think there is hope that the Liberal government will be > voted out this fall and the Conservatives will amend the law. > > ___ > http://www.okiebenz.com > > To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ > > To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: > http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com > > ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
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On Mon, 15 Jul 2019 23:50:51 -0400 Buggered Benzmail via Mercedes wrote: > Rode to a community meeting this evening with a buddy. Left his house > to come home about 930. We had big tstorm roll through earlier. Driving > down the road a BIG oak tree falls in the road right in front of me. I > guess the storm had weakened the tree. I hit it full on at 45mph, > managed to stomp the brakes but road was wet so not much good there > even though I felt the ABS. Wow. I'm sorry this happened, Rich, but I am glad you are OK. Is your county liable? > I’ll probably be sore in the morning but right now Mr Basil Hayden is > ministering my aches. Pardon my ignorance, but what is "Mr Basil Hayden"? Craig ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
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On 16/07/2019 11:10 AM, Curt Raymond via Mercedes wrote: Is that evidence always admissible in court? In Canada do you have the right to know your accuser? Has this yet been used in a weaponized fashion? Seems like reporting the lawmakers who started the law would be a really interesting thing, it'd hassle them if nothing else. I'm interested in those cases where lawmakers get caught up in their own laws. -Curt Some of these cases have been successfully fought but at considerable expense to the person charged. There is some talk of a constitutional challenge but I think there is hope that the Liberal government will be voted out this fall and the Conservatives will amend the law. ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
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Haha, yeah "insurance" I do have to call and cancel it though. Woke up a bit sore this morning but my buddy and I went to collect the car, load it on the trailer, which was a bit of an effort but that worked out the kinks. So the car is back home. Couldn't get the hood popped, will have to work on that at some point. Intercooler is all bent up so that part is dead. I don't think much else got damaged, the radiator probably gone. Most of the damage is low on pass side front, and the fender pushed back. I don't think it is fixable so will have to become parts. Good new tires on it so those can be recycled to something. At some point I'll dismantle it and save the good bits and take the hulk to the knacker, get a few $$ for it. It ran great so the engine and tranny are good, I wonder what that would transplant into, get a diesel again! Would it be a drop-in on any 210? --FT On 7/16/19 11:47 AM, Curt Raymond via Mercedes wrote: What insurance? Would someone carry comprehensive insurance on a $500 car? -- --FT ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] The $500E300 did its job tonight
Is that evidence always admissible in court? In Canada do you have the right to know your accuser? Has this yet been used in a weaponized fashion? Seems like reporting the lawmakers who started the law would be a really interesting thing, it'd hassle them if nothing else. I'm interested in those cases where lawmakers get caught up in their own laws. -Curt On Tuesday, July 16, 2019, 12:04:06 PM EDT, Randy Bennell wrote: If there was an accident, they would. What I am saying is that if someone you know sees you leave a bar and calls the police to suggest that you might be impaired, they can show up at your home hours later and demand a breath sample. If you fail because you have had more to drink after you got home, they will still charge you. Crazy law but the wacko government is determined to please the soccer mummies who think that booze is bad because you might run over their mini-van with the baby on board sticker in the back window. On 16/07/2019 10:50 AM, Curt Raymond wrote: More proof that you live in a police state. Why wouldn't they take evidence at the accident scene? -Curt On Tuesday, July 16, 2019, 11:46:38 AM EDT, Randy Bennell via Mercedes wrote: On 15/07/2019 10:50 PM, Buggered Benzmail via Mercedes wrote: > I’ll probably be sore in the morning but right now Mr Basil Hayden is >ministering my aches. > > > > > > --FT That would be a bad idea in Canada now. Thanks to our wonky Liberal government, the police can now come to your house hours after you have driven and demand a breathalyser sample. So, if you have a couple of drinks at home and that puts you over the allowable limit, even if you were under the limit when you last were behind the wheel, you will be charged with impaired driving. ___ ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] The $500E300 did its job tonight
I'm actually reminded of last summer talking to a Canadian friend who is a gun owner. He mentioned something about getting a firearm shipped to his house. "Wait a tick, you can do that?" Apparently you can. In retrospect I don't think I asked if it was because of Canada's national gun registry or whatever. He did mention that if he took his AR-15 out in public, like had it in his car not locked up with the ammo in a different box, I don't even remember all the strict measures, he'd go to jail. Buuut he had another black, plastic gun in .223 that was basically the same as an AR-15 without actually being an AR-15 that he could get away with all sorts of foolishness with. Apparently Canadian lawmakers are just as dumb as those in the USA. Which is actually kind of comforting in a way... -Curt On Tuesday, July 16, 2019, 11:46:38 AM EDT, Randy Bennell via Mercedes wrote: On 15/07/2019 10:50 PM, Buggered Benzmail via Mercedes wrote: > I’ll probably be sore in the morning but right now Mr Basil Hayden is >ministering my aches. > > > > > > --FT That would be a bad idea in Canada now. Thanks to our wonky Liberal government, the police can now come to your house hours after you have driven and demand a breathalyser sample. So, if you have a couple of drinks at home and that puts you over the allowable limit, even if you were under the limit when you last were behind the wheel, you will be charged with impaired driving. ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] The $500E300 did its job tonight
More proof that you live in a police state. Why wouldn't they take evidence at the accident scene? -Curt On Tuesday, July 16, 2019, 11:46:38 AM EDT, Randy Bennell via Mercedes wrote: On 15/07/2019 10:50 PM, Buggered Benzmail via Mercedes wrote: > I’ll probably be sore in the morning but right now Mr Basil Hayden is >ministering my aches. > > > > > > --FT That would be a bad idea in Canada now. Thanks to our wonky Liberal government, the police can now come to your house hours after you have driven and demand a breathalyser sample. So, if you have a couple of drinks at home and that puts you over the allowable limit, even if you were under the limit when you last were behind the wheel, you will be charged with impaired driving. ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
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What insurance? Would someone carry comprehensive insurance on a $500 car?Heck that reminds me, I need to take the extra insurance off my pickup. A 9 year old truck shouldn't be costing me an extra $500 a year. When I took comprehensive off the Ranger the insurance agent said "What would you do if you got in a wreck?" I said "I'd buy a new truck, you wouldn't give me much for this one anyway..." -Curt On Tuesday, July 16, 2019, 11:44:01 AM EDT, Andrew Strasfogel via Mercedes wrote: Glad you're OK - now awaiting the insurance company news. On Tue, Jul 16, 2019 at 11:38 AM Randy Bennell via Mercedes < mercedes@okiebenz.com> wrote: > On 16/07/2019 10:34 AM, OK Don via Mercedes wrote: > > Glad you were not injured - I guess timing is everything! > > > > But in this case, timing is essentially luck. > > > ___ > http://www.okiebenz.com > > To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ > > To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: > http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com > > ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
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On 15/07/2019 10:50 PM, Buggered Benzmail via Mercedes wrote: I’ll probably be sore in the morning but right now Mr Basil Hayden is ministering my aches. --FT That would be a bad idea in Canada now. Thanks to our wonky Liberal government, the police can now come to your house hours after you have driven and demand a breathalyser sample. So, if you have a couple of drinks at home and that puts you over the allowable limit, even if you were under the limit when you last were behind the wheel, you will be charged with impaired driving. ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
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Glad you're OK - now awaiting the insurance company news. On Tue, Jul 16, 2019 at 11:38 AM Randy Bennell via Mercedes < mercedes@okiebenz.com> wrote: > On 16/07/2019 10:34 AM, OK Don via Mercedes wrote: > > Glad you were not injured - I guess timing is everything! > > > > But in this case, timing is essentially luck. > > > ___ > http://www.okiebenz.com > > To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ > > To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: > http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com > > ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
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On 16/07/2019 10:34 AM, OK Don via Mercedes wrote: Glad you were not injured - I guess timing is everything! But in this case, timing is essentially luck. ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
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Glad you were not injured - I guess timing is everything! On Tue, Jul 16, 2019 at 10:16 AM Curley McLain via Mercedes < mercedes@okiebenz.com> wrote: > +1 The car did its job. A good investment. Hope you are not sore > today. > > Greg Fiorentino via Mercedes wrote on 7/16/19 10:00 AM: > > Glad you're ok Rich. > > > > Greg > > > > > > > ___ > http://www.okiebenz.com > > To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ > > To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: > http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com > > -- OK Don "Whenever you find yourself on the side of the majority, it is time to pause and reflect." Mark Twain "There are three kinds of men: The ones that learns by reading. The few who learn by observation. The rest of them have to pee on the electric fence for themselves." WILL ROGERS, *The Manly Wisdom of Will Rogers* 2013 F150, 18 mpg 2017 Subaru Legacy, 30 mpg 1957 C182A, 12 mpg - but at 150 mph! ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
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+1 The car did its job. A good investment. Hope you are not sore today. Greg Fiorentino via Mercedes wrote on 7/16/19 10:00 AM: Glad you're ok Rich. Greg ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] The $500E300 did its job tonight
Glad you're ok Rich. Greg -Original Message- From: Mercedes [mailto:mercedes-boun...@okiebenz.com] On Behalf Of Buggered Benzmail via Mercedes Sent: Monday, July 15, 2019 8:51 PM To: Mercedes Discussion List Cc: Buggered Benzmail Subject: [MBZ] The $500E300 did its job tonight Rode to a community meeting this evening with a buddy. Left his house to come home about 930. We had big tstorm roll through earlier. Driving down the road a BIG oak tree falls in the road right in front of me. I guess the storm had weakened the tree. I hit it full on at 45mph, managed to stomp the brakes but road was wet so not much good there even though I felt the ABS. Airbag deployed but I don’t think I hit it, seat belt tensioner must have fired. I’m ok just a bit rattled. I’ll probably be sore in the morning but right now Mr Basil Hayden is ministering my aches. I left the car by the road will go over in the morning with the trailer and retrieve it. FD came and cut up the tree and got the road cleared. A good ol boy with a pickup with a winch pulled the car off the road. I guess the car is probably not worth saving but I’ll take a look in the morning once I drag it home. Engine was still running but radiator and front end smashed pretty good. Pass door wouldn’t open. It’s got a salvage title been wrecked twice before. I’ll dismantle it and keep all the good bits. I’m thankful I didn’t arrive 1/2second sooner, that might not have ended quite as well. And how was YOUR evening? ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
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Distant cousin was killed about five years ago. Tree fell across a road in the UP in a storm at night, blocking the road. Two of them stopped, Mark got a chain saw out of his truck and the other guy helped, then somebody came along and hit Mark, or hit the tree into Mark, I don't remember exactly. Mitch. > On July 16, 2019 at 10:43 AM Curt Raymond via Mercedes > wrote: > > > Whew, probably needed to change your shorts after that. > Theres been a big push across New England (well MA, NH and ME that I know of) > to move trees back from the road. Partially because of things like this but > also to keep them off the power lines. This is a good reminder as to why ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] The $500E300 did its job tonight
Whew, probably needed to change your shorts after that. Theres been a big push across New England (well MA, NH and ME that I know of) to move trees back from the road. Partially because of things like this but also to keep them off the power lines. This is a good reminder as to why... -Curt On Tuesday, July 16, 2019, 5:08:34 AM EDT, Buggered Benzmail via Mercedes wrote: Rode to a community meeting this evening with a buddy. Left his house to come home about 930. We had big tstorm roll through earlier. Driving down the road a BIG oak tree falls in the road right in front of me. I guess the storm had weakened the tree. I hit it full on at 45mph, managed to stomp the brakes but road was wet so not much good there even though I felt the ABS. Airbag deployed but I don’t think I hit it, seat belt tensioner must have fired. I’m ok just a bit rattled. I’ll probably be sore in the morning but right now Mr Basil Hayden is ministering my aches. I left the car by the road will go over in the morning with the trailer and retrieve it. FD came and cut up the tree and got the road cleared. A good ol boy with a pickup with a winch pulled the car off the road. I guess the car is probably not worth saving but I’ll take a look in the morning once I drag it home. Engine was still running but radiator and front end smashed pretty good. Pass door wouldn’t open. It’s got a salvage title been wrecked twice before. I’ll dismantle it and keep all the good bits. I’m thankful I didn’t arrive 1/2second sooner, that might not have ended quite as well. And how was YOUR evening? --FT Sent from iPhone___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] The $500E300 did its job tonight
I probably pushed the tree a good 20ft or 30ft or more. Thumped it good. Main hit on pass side front, so that pushed the fender into the door a bit. I'm headed over shortly to collect it so will check it out more. --FT On 7/16/19 8:44 AM, Mitch Haley via Mercedes wrote: On July 16, 2019 at 8:42 AM Mitch Haley via Mercedes wrote: If you did 40-0 in a couple of feet I'm sure the chassis is trash. Should have looked at the picture first, looks like you might have moved the tree 10-15 feet. But like Peter said, if the door openings aren't door shaped any more, it's dead, even if it wasn't worth 3 digits to begin with. Mitch. ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com -- --FT ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
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> On July 16, 2019 at 8:42 AM Mitch Haley via Mercedes > wrote: > > > If you did 40-0 in a couple of feet I'm sure the chassis is trash. Should have looked at the picture first, looks like you might have moved the tree 10-15 feet. But like Peter said, if the door openings aren't door shaped any more, it's dead, even if it wasn't worth 3 digits to begin with. Mitch. ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] The $500E300 did its job tonight
Glad you're OK. I assume if you were going to do something like that, the $500 300D or the $200 SEC would be your first choice of car to do it in? If you did 40-0 in a couple of feet I'm sure the chassis is trash. Does the 300D have BAS? ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
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If a door won't open, it's toast -- too much distortion in the body to ever get right. And this indeed is why I drive a Benz -- saved my life when a guy ran a red light due to inattention and T-boned me doing 60. Mashed the car all to hell, but I walked away. Peter ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
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Wow, sorry to hear about that, and also glad to hear that no ride to the hospital required. Well, those turbo engines have some value if you want to pull and keep that. Looks like the intercooler probably got crunched though. There are some other electronic modules that commonly go bad like the K40 relay and the gear shifter box, and the radio. - Max Charleston SC On Tue, Jul 16, 2019 at 5:08 AM Buggered Benzmail via Mercedes < mercedes@okiebenz.com> wrote: > Rode to a community meeting this evening with a buddy. Left his house to > come home about 930. We had big tstorm roll through earlier. Driving down > the road a BIG oak tree falls in the road right in front of me. I guess the > storm had weakened the tree. I hit it full on at 45mph, managed to stomp > the brakes but road was wet so not much good there even though I felt the > ABS. Airbag deployed but I don’t think I hit it, seat belt tensioner must > have fired. I’m ok just a bit rattled. I’ll probably be sore in the morning > but right now Mr Basil Hayden is ministering my aches. > > I left the car by the road will go over in the morning with the trailer > and retrieve it. FD came and cut up the tree and got the road cleared. A > good ol boy with a pickup with a winch pulled the car off the road. > > I guess the car is probably not worth saving but I’ll take a look in the > morning once I drag it home. Engine was still running but radiator and > front end smashed pretty good. Pass door wouldn’t open. It’s got a salvage > title been wrecked twice before. I’ll dismantle it and keep all the good > bits. > > I’m thankful I didn’t arrive 1/2second sooner, that might not have ended > quite as well. > > And how was YOUR evening? > > > > --FT > Sent from iPhone___ > http://www.okiebenz.com > > To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ > > To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: > http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com > > ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
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Ouch! That’s why we drive these cars, right? Glad you’re OK. -D > On Jul 15, 2019, at 11:50 PM, Buggered Benzmail via Mercedes > wrote: > > Rode to a community meeting this evening with a buddy. Left his house to come > home about 930. We had big tstorm roll through earlier. Driving down the road > a BIG oak tree falls in the road right in front of me. I guess the storm had > weakened the tree. I hit it full on at 45mph, managed to stomp the brakes but > road was wet so not much good there even though I felt the ABS. Airbag > deployed but I don’t think I hit it, seat belt tensioner must have fired. I’m > ok just a bit rattled. I’ll probably be sore in the morning but right now Mr > Basil Hayden is ministering my aches. > > I left the car by the road will go over in the morning with the trailer and > retrieve it. FD came and cut up the tree and got the road cleared. A good ol > boy with a pickup with a winch pulled the car off the road. > > I guess the car is probably not worth saving but I’ll take a look in the > morning once I drag it home. Engine was still running but radiator and front > end smashed pretty good. Pass door wouldn’t open. It’s got a salvage title > been wrecked twice before. I’ll dismantle it and keep all the good bits. > > I’m thankful I didn’t arrive 1/2second sooner, that might not have ended > quite as well. > > And how was YOUR evening? > > > > --FT > Sent from iPhone___ > http://www.okiebenz.com > > To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ > > To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: > http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com > ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
