Re: [MBZ] Gas Prices
It gets shipped in directly from Houston, no pipelines here. There’s a massive fuel storage facility in Tampa Bay where it all comes to. -D > On Jun 3, 2022, at 11:30 AM, mitch--- via Mercedes > wrote: > > On 2022-06-03 10:08, dan penoff.com via Mercedes wrote: >> Costco in Tampa was $4.95/gallon for premium this morning. > > $5.039 now. > > Everything's cheaper down there, you can get Shell regular for $4.70, or > 4.539 at Costco. > > Costco here wants 4.939 for regular. > > ___ > http://www.okiebenz.com > > To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ > > To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: > http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com > ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] Gas Prices
On 2022-06-03 10:08, dan penoff.com via Mercedes wrote: Costco in Tampa was $4.95/gallon for premium this morning. $5.039 now. Everything's cheaper down there, you can get Shell regular for $4.70, or 4.539 at Costco. Costco here wants 4.939 for regular. ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] Gas Prices
Costco in Tampa was $4.95/gallon for premium this morning. -D > On Jun 3, 2022, at 10:00 AM, mitch--- via Mercedes > wrote: > > I didn't fill up at 4.77 yesterday, but planned to the next time I'm in town. > So today, it's 4.99 everywhere, for Regular. > Crude pretty much the same as it's been all week. > > > ___ > http://www.okiebenz.com > > To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ > > To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: > http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com > ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] Gas Prices
I didn't fill up at 4.77 yesterday, but planned to the next time I'm in town. So today, it's 4.99 everywhere, for Regular. Crude pretty much the same as it's been all week. ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] Gas Prices
On 2022-05-26 15:45, Andrew Strasfogel via Mercedes wrote: The biggest loss leader at the local Costco is maple syrup. $2/qt. cheaper than Trader Joe's. Seems like I paid in the low 30s for a liter of Canadian stuff last December. That stuff may well have come from the Strategic Maploleum Reserve caverns. I saw syrup there today but didn't check for a price. Gas is 4.499 regular, 4.999 premium. I bought regular at Marathon for 4.499-.05 instead. BTW, it's Groupon days again. I bought a $60 membership coupon from Groupon for...$60. Took it to the store, where the friendly young lady upsold me to Executive for another $60 (supposed to get a 2% rebate at year end with a $60 floor so I get that extra $60 back). Signed up for the Citi Visa card, another $50 if and only if you're an Executive Club Member. The Groupon gets me a $40 shop card and $40 off on a $250 online order, if I sign up for auto-renew (which I always cancel after I get my $40 shop card). Only works if you haven't been a member in 2022. My membership expired in September so I'm all set there. https://www.groupon.com/deals/n-costco-membership-2022 ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] Gas Prices
The biggest loss leader at the local Costco is maple syrup. $2/qt. cheaper than Trader Joe's. On Thu, May 26, 2022 at 3:02 AM dan penoff.com via Mercedes < mercedes@okiebenz.com> wrote: > We have both in Tampa, but only Sam’s in Flagstaff. And while I haven’t > been a member of Sam’s in a lot of years, I was really impressed when I > went through the one in Flagstaff. It’s almost a 100% clone of a Costco > with Sam’s logo on everything. They have fresh meat and seafood counters, > and the offerings are very high quality and fresh. > > The one drawback is their gas isn’t TopTier, but it’s about $0.50/gallon > cheaper than the local Shell station I used to frequent, and that > difference will cover numerous bottles of Techron to address the > discrepancy. > > -D > > On May 25, 2022, at 6:40 PM, Allan Streib via Mercedes < > mercedes@okiebenz.com<mailto:mercedes@okiebenz.com>> wrote: > > I wish we had one here. We have Sam's Club, which is basically Walmart in > larger quantities. > > > On Wed, May 25, 2022, at 5:35 PM, Bob Rentfro via Mercedes wrote: > Oh Costco is a solid place. When I got those Michelin CrossClimate 2s for > the Passat, they honored the slae they were having in March ($100+ back on > a set of for or something like that) even tough I bought the tires on April > 7th. Took $166 off the final price. > > Bless you, Costco. > > I love those CrossClimate 2s btw. > > AZBob > > Sent from Mail <https://go.microsoft.com/fwlink/?LinkId=550986> for > Windows > > *From: *greg via Mercedes <mailto:mercedes@okiebenz.com> > *Sent: *Wednesday, May 25, 2022 3:16 PM > *To: *Mercedes Discussion List <mailto:mercedes@okiebenz.com> > *Cc: *ml320@fiorentino.space<mailto:ml320@fiorentino.space> > *Subject: *Re: [MBZ] Gas Prices > > > premium is $5.239 today at my Costco. > > OTOH, they rebated me $246 for a pair of my 4 year-old Michelins on their > road hazard warranty. One tire damaged, had to replace 2. > > Greg > > Funny, it’s $4.35/gallon for unleaded at Sam’s Club in Flagstaff. > Premium is $4.65. > > -D > > On May 24, 2022, at 8:31 PM, Bob Rentfro via Mercedes > mailto:mercedes@okiebenz.com>> wrote: > > Shot up to $5.16 in Phoenix over the last two days. Diesel is $5.49. > > AZBob > > Sent from my iPad > > On May 24, 2022, at 1:02 PM, dan penoff.com<http://penoff.com/> via > Mercedes > mailto:mercedes@okiebenz.com>> wrote: > > For the most part, yes. > > I can’t imagine what it would be like if I was still commuting. > > -D > > On May 24, 2022, at 3:13 PM, Rick Knoble via Mercedes > mailto:mercedes@okiebenz.com>> wrote: > > You work from home most days though, correct? > > If you think it's painful now, just wait > Summer driving season is around the corner. > > Rationing might be too. > > > Rick > > From: mercedes@okiebenz.com<mailto:mercedes@okiebenz.com> > Sent: May 24, 2022 2:01 PM > To: mercedes@okiebenz.com<mailto:mercedes@okiebenz.com> > Reply-to: mercedes@okiebenz.com<mailto:mercedes@okiebenz.com> > Cc: d...@penoff.com<mailto:d...@penoff.com> > Subject: [MBZ] Gas Prices > > $4.75/gallon for premium at Costco in Tampa. Filling the ML550. This > is gonna be painful. > > -D > ___ > http://www.okiebenz.com > > To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ > > To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: > http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com > > ___ > http://www.okiebenz.com > > To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ > > To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: > http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com > > ___ > http://www.okiebenz.com > > To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ > > To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: > http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com > > > ___ > http://www.okiebenz.com > > To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ > > To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: > http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com > > > ___ > http://www.okiebenz.com<http://www.okiebenz.com/> > > To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ > > To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: > http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com > > > > > > _
Re: [MBZ] Gas Prices
We have both in Tampa, but only Sam’s in Flagstaff. And while I haven’t been a member of Sam’s in a lot of years, I was really impressed when I went through the one in Flagstaff. It’s almost a 100% clone of a Costco with Sam’s logo on everything. They have fresh meat and seafood counters, and the offerings are very high quality and fresh. The one drawback is their gas isn’t TopTier, but it’s about $0.50/gallon cheaper than the local Shell station I used to frequent, and that difference will cover numerous bottles of Techron to address the discrepancy. -D On May 25, 2022, at 6:40 PM, Allan Streib via Mercedes mailto:mercedes@okiebenz.com>> wrote: I wish we had one here. We have Sam's Club, which is basically Walmart in larger quantities. On Wed, May 25, 2022, at 5:35 PM, Bob Rentfro via Mercedes wrote: Oh Costco is a solid place. When I got those Michelin CrossClimate 2s for the Passat, they honored the slae they were having in March ($100+ back on a set of for or something like that) even tough I bought the tires on April 7th. Took $166 off the final price. Bless you, Costco. I love those CrossClimate 2s btw. AZBob Sent from Mail <https://go.microsoft.com/fwlink/?LinkId=550986> for Windows *From: *greg via Mercedes <mailto:mercedes@okiebenz.com> *Sent: *Wednesday, May 25, 2022 3:16 PM *To: *Mercedes Discussion List <mailto:mercedes@okiebenz.com> *Cc: *ml320@fiorentino.space<mailto:ml320@fiorentino.space> *Subject: *Re: [MBZ] Gas Prices premium is $5.239 today at my Costco. OTOH, they rebated me $246 for a pair of my 4 year-old Michelins on their road hazard warranty. One tire damaged, had to replace 2. Greg Funny, it’s $4.35/gallon for unleaded at Sam’s Club in Flagstaff. Premium is $4.65. -D On May 24, 2022, at 8:31 PM, Bob Rentfro via Mercedes mailto:mercedes@okiebenz.com>> wrote: Shot up to $5.16 in Phoenix over the last two days. Diesel is $5.49. AZBob Sent from my iPad On May 24, 2022, at 1:02 PM, dan penoff.com<http://penoff.com/> via Mercedes mailto:mercedes@okiebenz.com>> wrote: For the most part, yes. I can’t imagine what it would be like if I was still commuting. -D On May 24, 2022, at 3:13 PM, Rick Knoble via Mercedes mailto:mercedes@okiebenz.com>> wrote: You work from home most days though, correct? If you think it's painful now, just wait Summer driving season is around the corner. Rationing might be too. Rick From: mercedes@okiebenz.com<mailto:mercedes@okiebenz.com> Sent: May 24, 2022 2:01 PM To: mercedes@okiebenz.com<mailto:mercedes@okiebenz.com> Reply-to: mercedes@okiebenz.com<mailto:mercedes@okiebenz.com> Cc: d...@penoff.com<mailto:d...@penoff.com> Subject: [MBZ] Gas Prices $4.75/gallon for premium at Costco in Tampa. Filling the ML550. This is gonna be painful. -D ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com<http://www.okiebenz.com/> To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com<http://www.okiebenz.com/> To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com<http://www.okiebenz.com/> To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com<http://www.okiebenz.com/> To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http:
Re: [MBZ] Gas Prices
I wish we had one here. We have Sam's Club, which is basically Walmart in larger quantities. On Wed, May 25, 2022, at 5:35 PM, Bob Rentfro via Mercedes wrote: > Oh Costco is a solid place. When I got those Michelin CrossClimate 2s for the > Passat, they honored the slae they were having in March ($100+ back on a set > of for or something like that) even tough I bought the tires on April 7th. > Took $166 off the final price. > > Bless you, Costco. > > I love those CrossClimate 2s btw. > > AZBob > > Sent from Mail <https://go.microsoft.com/fwlink/?LinkId=550986> for Windows > > *From: *greg via Mercedes <mailto:mercedes@okiebenz.com> > *Sent: *Wednesday, May 25, 2022 3:16 PM > *To: *Mercedes Discussion List <mailto:mercedes@okiebenz.com> > *Cc: *ml320@fiorentino.space > *Subject: *Re: [MBZ] Gas Prices > > > premium is $5.239 today at my Costco. > > OTOH, they rebated me $246 for a pair of my 4 year-old Michelins on their > road hazard warranty. One tire damaged, had to replace 2. > > Greg > > > Funny, itâs $4.35/gallon for unleaded at Samâs Club in Flagstaff. > > Premium is $4.65. > > > > -D > > > >> On May 24, 2022, at 8:31 PM, Bob Rentfro via Mercedes > >> wrote: > >> > >> Shot up to $5.16 in Phoenix over the last two days. Diesel is $5.49. > >> > >> AZBob > >> > >> Sent from my iPad > >> > >>> On May 24, 2022, at 1:02 PM, dan penoff.com via Mercedes > >>> wrote: > >>> > >>> For the most part, yes. > >>> > >>> I canât imagine what it would be like if I was still commuting. > >>> > >>> -D > >>> > >>>> On May 24, 2022, at 3:13 PM, Rick Knoble via Mercedes > >>>> wrote: > >>>> > >>>> You work from home most days though, correct? > >>>> > >>>> If you think it's painful now, just wait > >>>> Summer driving season is around the corner. > >>>> > >>>> Rationing might be too. > >>>> > >>>> > >>>> Rick > >>>> > >>>> From: mercedes@okiebenz.com > >>>> Sent: May 24, 2022 2:01 PM > >>>> To: mercedes@okiebenz.com > >>>> Reply-to: mercedes@okiebenz.com > >>>> Cc: d...@penoff.com > >>>> Subject: [MBZ] Gas Prices > >>>> > >>>> $4.75/gallon for premium at Costco in Tampa. Filling the ML550. This > >>>> is gonna be painful. > >>>> > >>>> -D > >>>> ___ > >>>> http://www.okiebenz.com > >>>> > >>>> To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ > >>>> > >>>> To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: > >>>> http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com > >>>> > >>>> ___ > >>>> http://www.okiebenz.com > >>>> > >>>> To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ > >>>> > >>>> To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: > >>>> http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com > >>>> > >>> ___ > >>> http://www.okiebenz.com > >>> > >>> To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ > >>> > >>> To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: > >>> http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com > >>> > >> > >> ___ > >> http://www.okiebenz.com > >> > >> To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ > >> > >> To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: > >> http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com > >> > > > > ___ > > http://www.okiebenz.com > > > > To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ > > > > To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: > > http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com > > > > > > > > ___ > http://www.okiebenz.com > > To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ > > To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: > http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com > > > ___ > http://www.okiebenz.com > > To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ > > To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: > http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com > > ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] Gas Prices
Isn't that the car where you don't buy it, you lease it for as long as you want with no fixed return date? They eventually take it back and recycle it (assuming they are still around, I guess). On Tue, May 24, 2022, at 4:04 PM, Andrew Strasfogel via Mercedes wrote: > I can hardly wait to get my Ocean. > > On Tue, May 24, 2022 at 4:02 PM dan penoff.com via Mercedes < > mercedes@okiebenz.com> wrote: > >> For the most part, yes. >> >> I can’t imagine what it would be like if I was still commuting. >> >> -D >> >> > On May 24, 2022, at 3:13 PM, Rick Knoble via Mercedes < >> mercedes@okiebenz.com> wrote: >> > >> > You work from home most days though, correct? >> > >> > If you think it's painful now, just wait >> > Summer driving season is around the corner. >> > >> > Rationing might be too. >> > >> > >> > Rick >> > >> > From: mercedes@okiebenz.com >> > Sent: May 24, 2022 2:01 PM >> > To: mercedes@okiebenz.com >> > Reply-to: mercedes@okiebenz.com >> > Cc: d...@penoff.com >> > Subject: [MBZ] Gas Prices >> > >> > $4.75/gallon for premium at Costco in Tampa. Filling the ML550. This is >> gonna be painful. >> > >> > -D >> > ___ >> > http://www.okiebenz.com >> > >> > To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ >> > >> > To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: >> > http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com >> > >> > ___ >> > http://www.okiebenz.com >> > >> > To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ >> > >> > To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: >> > http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com >> > >> ___ >> http://www.okiebenz.com >> >> To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ >> >> To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: >> http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com >> >> > ___ > http://www.okiebenz.com > > To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ > > To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: > http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] Gas Prices
Oh Costco is a solid place. When I got those Michelin CrossClimate 2s for the Passat, they honored the slae they were having in March ($100+ back on a set of for or something like that) even tough I bought the tires on April 7th. Took $166 off the final price. Bless you, Costco. I love those CrossClimate 2s btw. AZBob Sent from Mail for Windows From: greg via MercedesSent: Wednesday, May 25, 2022 3:16 PMTo: Mercedes Discussion ListCc: ml320@fiorentino.spaceSubject: Re: [MBZ] Gas Prices premium is $5.239 today at my Costco. OTOH, they rebated me $246 for a pair of my 4 year-old Michelins on theirroad hazard warranty. One tire damaged, had to replace 2. Greg > Funny, itâs $4.35/gallon for unleaded at Samâs Club in Flagstaff.> Premium is $4.65.> > -D> >> On May 24, 2022, at 8:31 PM, Bob Rentfro via Mercedes>> wrote:>> >> Shot up to $5.16 in Phoenix over the last two days. Diesel is $5.49.>> >> AZBob>> >> Sent from my iPad>> >>> On May 24, 2022, at 1:02 PM, dan penoff.com via Mercedes>>> wrote:>>> >>> For the most part, yes.>>> >>> I canât imagine what it would be like if I was still commuting.>>> >>> -D>>> >>>> On May 24, 2022, at 3:13 PM, Rick Knoble via Mercedes>>>> wrote:>>>> >>>> You work from home most days though, correct?>>>> >>>> If you think it's painful now, just wait>>>> Summer driving season is around the corner.>>>> >>>> Rationing might be too.>>>> >>>> >>>> Rick>>>> >>>> From: mercedes@okiebenz.com>>>> Sent: May 24, 2022 2:01 PM>>>> To: mercedes@okiebenz.com>>>> Reply-to: mercedes@okiebenz.com>>>> Cc: d...@penoff.com>>>> Subject: [MBZ] Gas Prices>>>> >>>> $4.75/gallon for premium at Costco in Tampa. Filling the ML550. This>>>> is gonna be painful.>>>> >>>> -D>>>> ___>>>> http://www.okiebenz.com>>>> >>>> To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/>>>> >>>> To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to:>>>> http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com>>>> >>>> ___>>>> http://www.okiebenz.com>>>> >>>> To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/>>>> >>>> To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to:>>>> http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com>>>> >>> ___>>> http://www.okiebenz.com>>> >>> To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/>>> >>> To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to:>>> http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com>>> >> >> ___>> http://www.okiebenz.com>> >> To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/>> >> To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to:>> http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com>> > > ___> http://www.okiebenz.com> > To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/> > To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to:> http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com> >___http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to:http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] Gas Prices
premium is $5.239 today at my Costco. OTOH, they rebated me $246 for a pair of my 4 year-old Michelins on their road hazard warranty. One tire damaged, had to replace 2. Greg > Funny, itâs $4.35/gallon for unleaded at Samâs Club in Flagstaff. > Premium is $4.65. > > -D > >> On May 24, 2022, at 8:31 PM, Bob Rentfro via Mercedes >> wrote: >> >> Shot up to $5.16 in Phoenix over the last two days. Diesel is $5.49. >> >> AZBob >> >> Sent from my iPad >> >>> On May 24, 2022, at 1:02 PM, dan penoff.com via Mercedes >>> wrote: >>> >>> For the most part, yes. >>> >>> I canât imagine what it would be like if I was still commuting. >>> >>> -D >>> >>>> On May 24, 2022, at 3:13 PM, Rick Knoble via Mercedes >>>> wrote: >>>> >>>> You work from home most days though, correct? >>>> >>>> If you think it's painful now, just wait >>>> Summer driving season is around the corner. >>>> >>>> Rationing might be too. >>>> >>>> >>>> Rick >>>> >>>> From: mercedes@okiebenz.com >>>> Sent: May 24, 2022 2:01 PM >>>> To: mercedes@okiebenz.com >>>> Reply-to: mercedes@okiebenz.com >>>> Cc: d...@penoff.com >>>> Subject: [MBZ] Gas Prices >>>> >>>> $4.75/gallon for premium at Costco in Tampa. Filling the ML550. This >>>> is gonna be painful. >>>> >>>> -D >>>> ___ >>>> http://www.okiebenz.com >>>> >>>> To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ >>>> >>>> To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: >>>> http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com >>>> >>>> ___ >>>> http://www.okiebenz.com >>>> >>>> To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ >>>> >>>> To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: >>>> http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com >>>> >>> ___ >>> http://www.okiebenz.com >>> >>> To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ >>> >>> To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: >>> http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com >>> >> >> ___ >> http://www.okiebenz.com >> >> To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ >> >> To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: >> http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com >> > > ___ > http://www.okiebenz.com > > To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ > > To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: > http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com > > ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] Gas Prices
High gas prices will also drive more buyers to EVs, thinking they won't need to buy fuel anymore. Electric rates will rise, gas will get cheaper. Though I'm not sure that the supply of EVs is enough that this would be very noticable right now. The EVs themselves will be expensive though! On Wed, May 25, 2022, at 11:38 AM, Curt Raymond via Mercedes wrote: > I suspect this summer we'll see a decline in travel and an increase in > sedan sales. Ford and GM will, as usual, be left behind in sales due to > their gamble that nobody will buy anything other than SUVs anymore. > Gas prices will stabilize as demand decreases. > Curt > > Sent from Yahoo Mail on Android > > On Wed, May 25, 2022 at 11:24 AM, > mi...@mitchellhaley.com wrote: On 2022-05-25 > 11:18, Curt Raymond via Mercedes wrote: >> Seems unlikely. Usually when I hear the crazies get real news time I >> know the worst is over.Housing market is a good example, I heard on >> the radio "the current high prices are the new normal and will >> continue forever." Now housing prices are falling... > > > With something that the buyer has the power to set the price, like > housing, corporate stocks, and tulip bulbs, the price will peak when > everybody in the market believes it can only keep rising in price. > Confidence and Fear Of Missing Out will be at maximum levels, until an > outside force crashes the price. > > The reverse works at the bottom. When nobody wants to buy today because > they know it'll be cheaper tomorrow, that's when the price can't go any > lower. > > ___ > http://www.okiebenz.com > > To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ > > To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: > http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] Gas Prices
I suspect this summer we'll see a decline in travel and an increase in sedan sales. Ford and GM will, as usual, be left behind in sales due to their gamble that nobody will buy anything other than SUVs anymore. Gas prices will stabilize as demand decreases. Curt Sent from Yahoo Mail on Android On Wed, May 25, 2022 at 11:24 AM, mi...@mitchellhaley.com wrote: On 2022-05-25 11:18, Curt Raymond via Mercedes wrote: > Seems unlikely. Usually when I hear the crazies get real news time I > know the worst is over.Housing market is a good example, I heard on > the radio "the current high prices are the new normal and will > continue forever." Now housing prices are falling... With something that the buyer has the power to set the price, like housing, corporate stocks, and tulip bulbs, the price will peak when everybody in the market believes it can only keep rising in price. Confidence and Fear Of Missing Out will be at maximum levels, until an outside force crashes the price. The reverse works at the bottom. When nobody wants to buy today because they know it'll be cheaper tomorrow, that's when the price can't go any lower. ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
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On 2022-05-25 11:18, Curt Raymond via Mercedes wrote: Seems unlikely. Usually when I hear the crazies get real news time I know the worst is over.Housing market is a good example, I heard on the radio "the current high prices are the new normal and will continue forever." Now housing prices are falling... With something that the buyer has the power to set the price, like housing, corporate stocks, and tulip bulbs, the price will peak when everybody in the market believes it can only keep rising in price. Confidence and Fear Of Missing Out will be at maximum levels, until an outside force crashes the price. The reverse works at the bottom. When nobody wants to buy today because they know it'll be cheaper tomorrow, that's when the price can't go any lower. ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] Gas Prices
Seems unlikely. Usually when I hear the crazies get real news time I know the worst is over.Housing market is a good example, I heard on the radio "the current high prices are the new normal and will continue forever." Now housing prices are falling... Curt Sent from Yahoo Mail on Android On Wed, May 25, 2022 at 10:24 AM, Kaleb Striplin via Mercedes wrote: Supposedly gas prices are going to double what they currently car in the near future. It’s amazing isn’t it? Sent from my iPhone > On May 24, 2022, at 2:13 PM, Rick Knoble via Mercedes > wrote: > > You work from home most days though, correct? > > If you think it's painful now, just wait > Summer driving season is around the corner. > > Rationing might be too. > > > Rick > > From: mercedes@okiebenz.com > Sent: May 24, 2022 2:01 PM > To: mercedes@okiebenz.com > Reply-to: mercedes@okiebenz.com > Cc: d...@penoff.com > Subject: [MBZ] Gas Prices > > $4.75/gallon for premium at Costco in Tampa. Filling the ML550. This is gonna > be painful. > > -D > ___ > http://www.okiebenz.com > > To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ > > To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: > http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com > > ___ > http://www.okiebenz.com > > To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ > > To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: > http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com > ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
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Supposedly gas prices are going to double what they currently car in the near future. It’s amazing isn’t it? Sent from my iPhone > On May 24, 2022, at 2:13 PM, Rick Knoble via Mercedes > wrote: > > You work from home most days though, correct? > > If you think it's painful now, just wait > Summer driving season is around the corner. > > Rationing might be too. > > > Rick > > From: mercedes@okiebenz.com > Sent: May 24, 2022 2:01 PM > To: mercedes@okiebenz.com > Reply-to: mercedes@okiebenz.com > Cc: d...@penoff.com > Subject: [MBZ] Gas Prices > > $4.75/gallon for premium at Costco in Tampa. Filling the ML550. This is gonna > be painful. > > -D > ___ > http://www.okiebenz.com > > To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ > > To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: > http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com > > ___ > http://www.okiebenz.com > > To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ > > To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: > http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com > ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
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Funny, it’s $4.35/gallon for unleaded at Sam’s Club in Flagstaff. Premium is $4.65. -D > On May 24, 2022, at 8:31 PM, Bob Rentfro via Mercedes > wrote: > > Shot up to $5.16 in Phoenix over the last two days. Diesel is $5.49. > > AZBob > > Sent from my iPad > >> On May 24, 2022, at 1:02 PM, dan penoff.com via Mercedes >> wrote: >> >> For the most part, yes. >> >> I can’t imagine what it would be like if I was still commuting. >> >> -D >> >>> On May 24, 2022, at 3:13 PM, Rick Knoble via Mercedes >>> wrote: >>> >>> You work from home most days though, correct? >>> >>> If you think it's painful now, just wait >>> Summer driving season is around the corner. >>> >>> Rationing might be too. >>> >>> >>> Rick >>> >>> From: mercedes@okiebenz.com >>> Sent: May 24, 2022 2:01 PM >>> To: mercedes@okiebenz.com >>> Reply-to: mercedes@okiebenz.com >>> Cc: d...@penoff.com >>> Subject: [MBZ] Gas Prices >>> >>> $4.75/gallon for premium at Costco in Tampa. Filling the ML550. This is >>> gonna be painful. >>> >>> -D >>> ___ >>> http://www.okiebenz.com >>> >>> To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ >>> >>> To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: >>> http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com >>> >>> ___ >>> http://www.okiebenz.com >>> >>> To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ >>> >>> To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: >>> http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com >>> >> ___ >> http://www.okiebenz.com >> >> To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ >> >> To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: >> http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com >> > > ___ > http://www.okiebenz.com > > To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ > > To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: > http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com > ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
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On Tue, May 24, 2022, at 3:12 PM, Rick Knoble via Mercedes wrote: > If you think it's painful now, just wait > Summer driving season is around the corner. > > Rationing might be too. You might be right. The station closest to my house is out of 87UL. They have diesel. ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
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Shot up to $5.16 in Phoenix over the last two days. Diesel is $5.49. AZBob Sent from my iPad > On May 24, 2022, at 1:02 PM, dan penoff.com via Mercedes > wrote: > > For the most part, yes. > > I can’t imagine what it would be like if I was still commuting. > > -D > >> On May 24, 2022, at 3:13 PM, Rick Knoble via Mercedes >> wrote: >> >> You work from home most days though, correct? >> >> If you think it's painful now, just wait >> Summer driving season is around the corner. >> >> Rationing might be too. >> >> >> Rick >> >> From: mercedes@okiebenz.com >> Sent: May 24, 2022 2:01 PM >> To: mercedes@okiebenz.com >> Reply-to: mercedes@okiebenz.com >> Cc: d...@penoff.com >> Subject: [MBZ] Gas Prices >> >> $4.75/gallon for premium at Costco in Tampa. Filling the ML550. This is >> gonna be painful. >> >> -D >> ___ >> http://www.okiebenz.com >> >> To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ >> >> To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: >> http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com >> >> ___ >> http://www.okiebenz.com >> >> To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ >> >> To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: >> http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com >> > ___ > http://www.okiebenz.com > > To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ > > To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: > http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com > ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] Gas Prices
I can hardly wait to get my Ocean. On Tue, May 24, 2022 at 4:02 PM dan penoff.com via Mercedes < mercedes@okiebenz.com> wrote: > For the most part, yes. > > I can’t imagine what it would be like if I was still commuting. > > -D > > > On May 24, 2022, at 3:13 PM, Rick Knoble via Mercedes < > mercedes@okiebenz.com> wrote: > > > > You work from home most days though, correct? > > > > If you think it's painful now, just wait > > Summer driving season is around the corner. > > > > Rationing might be too. > > > > > > Rick > > > > From: mercedes@okiebenz.com > > Sent: May 24, 2022 2:01 PM > > To: mercedes@okiebenz.com > > Reply-to: mercedes@okiebenz.com > > Cc: d...@penoff.com > > Subject: [MBZ] Gas Prices > > > > $4.75/gallon for premium at Costco in Tampa. Filling the ML550. This is > gonna be painful. > > > > -D > > ___ > > http://www.okiebenz.com > > > > To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ > > > > To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: > > http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com > > > > ___ > > http://www.okiebenz.com > > > > To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ > > > > To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: > > http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com > > > ___ > http://www.okiebenz.com > > To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ > > To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: > http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com > > ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
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All of a sudden Premium costs $0.70, when it was a $0.60 boost to Regular for the past eight years or so. Marathon station, 49021 zip code, 4.509 Regular, 5.209 Premium, 5.209 Diesel. $26.75 for 6 gallons of Regular, the most I've ever paid for anything except Kerosene. And I think 4.599 is the most I've paid for Kero. ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
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I drove my Lexus GX460 this weekend on a 775 miles round trip. One station was $4.89 for premium. For a big 4WD SUV, I got 19.2 mpg which doesn’t seem horrible. But, at these prices (4.75 average), it was almost $200 for gas. Diesel was over $5 per gallon, but a 2014 Mercedes E250 Bluetec (I saw one for sale) would have cost half as much getting 40-42 mpg. Donald H. Snook > On May 24, 2022, at 2:00 PM, dan penoff.com wrote: > > $4.75/gallon for premium at Costco in Tampa. Filling the ML550. This is > gonna be painful. > > -D > ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
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For the most part, yes. I can’t imagine what it would be like if I was still commuting. -D > On May 24, 2022, at 3:13 PM, Rick Knoble via Mercedes > wrote: > > You work from home most days though, correct? > > If you think it's painful now, just wait > Summer driving season is around the corner. > > Rationing might be too. > > > Rick > > From: mercedes@okiebenz.com > Sent: May 24, 2022 2:01 PM > To: mercedes@okiebenz.com > Reply-to: mercedes@okiebenz.com > Cc: d...@penoff.com > Subject: [MBZ] Gas Prices > > $4.75/gallon for premium at Costco in Tampa. Filling the ML550. This is gonna > be painful. > > -D > ___ > http://www.okiebenz.com > > To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ > > To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: > http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com > > ___ > http://www.okiebenz.com > > To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ > > To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: > http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com > ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
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$4.80 for me on Sunday at Costco. --FT On 5/24/22 3:00 PM, dan penoff.com via Mercedes wrote: $4.75/gallon for premium at Costco in Tampa. Filling the ML550. This is gonna be painful. -D ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archiveshttp://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com -- --FT ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
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You work from home most days though, correct? If you think it's painful now, just wait Summer driving season is around the corner. Rationing might be too. Rick From: mercedes@okiebenz.com Sent: May 24, 2022 2:01 PM To: mercedes@okiebenz.com Reply-to: mercedes@okiebenz.com Cc: d...@penoff.com Subject: [MBZ] Gas Prices $4.75/gallon for premium at Costco in Tampa. Filling the ML550. This is gonna be painful. -D ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
[MBZ] Gas Prices
$4.75/gallon for premium at Costco in Tampa. Filling the ML550. This is gonna be painful. -D ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] Gas prices spiking
On 2022-04-19 19:16, Michael Esh via Mercedes wrote: Looks like Lansing is about 30 cents cheaper than around here. I am located on the west side about 5 miles from Lake Michigan. Believe it or not, Charlotte got to 3.69 before Lansing did. It was 3.69 here when Costo was 3.75, which is not sustainable in the long term, but we'd been under Costco/Sams/BJs for about a month straight. But yesterday morning, some stations in Charlotte went to 3.89, and it looks like today they went to 3.99, while others are still stuck at 3.69. I can see that last week's spike in crude oil might have made wholesale prices start climbing, but with crude bombing from 108 to 102 today, and all those stations in West Lansing at 3.69, I'm thinking 3.69 might stick for a while. ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
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Looks like Lansing is about 30 cents cheaper than around here. I am located on the west side about 5 miles from Lake Michigan. Michael E. Esh > On Apr 19, 2022, at 2:56 PM, mitch--- via Mercedes > wrote: > > On 2022-04-19 14:00, Michael Esh via Mercedes wrote: >> Whitehall, Michigan. $3.98 for no lead and $4.99 for diesel. > > https://www.gasbuddy.com/home?search=48917=1 > > ___ > http://www.okiebenz.com > > To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ > > To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: > http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com > ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
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On 2022-04-19 14:00, Michael Esh via Mercedes wrote: Whitehall, Michigan. $3.98 for no lead and $4.99 for diesel. https://www.gasbuddy.com/home?search=48917=1 ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
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Whitehall, Michigan. $3.98 for no lead and $4.99 for diesel. > On Apr 18, 2022, at 11:22 PM, Buggered Benzmail via Mercedes > wrote: > > Filled up at Costco today premium $4.40. Down 30cents since last fillup > > --FT > Sent from iFōn > >> On Apr 18, 2022, at 11:12 PM, Kaleb Striplin via Mercedes >> wrote: >> >> I see on the news oil prices are spiking which is causing gas prices to >> spike. I guess oil dropped but I sure as hell never saw gas prices drop. >> >> Sent from my iPhone >> >> ___ >> http://www.okiebenz.com >> >> To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ >> >> To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: >> http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com >> > > ___ > http://www.okiebenz.com > > To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ > > To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: > http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com > ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
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I reported $4.29 for diesel but that was during the MD tax holiday. Now the price is $4.89. On Mon, Apr 18, 2022 at 11:22 PM Buggered Benzmail via Mercedes < mercedes@okiebenz.com> wrote: > Filled up at Costco today premium $4.40. Down 30cents since last fillup > > --FT > Sent from iFōn > > > On Apr 18, 2022, at 11:12 PM, Kaleb Striplin via Mercedes < > mercedes@okiebenz.com> wrote: > > > > I see on the news oil prices are spiking which is causing gas prices to > spike. I guess oil dropped but I sure as hell never saw gas prices drop. > > > > Sent from my iPhone > > > > ___ > > http://www.okiebenz.com > > > > To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ > > > > To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: > > http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com > > > > ___ > http://www.okiebenz.com > > To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ > > To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: > http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com > > ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
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Filled up at Costco today premium $4.40. Down 30cents since last fillup --FT Sent from iFōn > On Apr 18, 2022, at 11:12 PM, Kaleb Striplin via Mercedes > wrote: > > I see on the news oil prices are spiking which is causing gas prices to > spike. I guess oil dropped but I sure as hell never saw gas prices drop. > > Sent from my iPhone > > ___ > http://www.okiebenz.com > > To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ > > To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: > http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com > ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
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87 dropped under $4/gallon here. I got it for 3.89 last week. Diesel hasn't changed much, I just paid nearly $50 for 10 gallons today. On Mon, Apr 18, 2022, at 11:12 PM, Kaleb Striplin via Mercedes wrote: > I see on the news oil prices are spiking which is causing gas prices to > spike. I guess oil dropped but I sure as hell never saw gas prices > drop. > > Sent from my iPhone > > ___ > http://www.okiebenz.com > > To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ > > To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: > http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
[MBZ] Gas prices spiking
I see on the news oil prices are spiking which is causing gas prices to spike. I guess oil dropped but I sure as hell never saw gas prices drop. Sent from my iPhone ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
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This will do wonders for CA gas prices. The union representing workers at a Chevron oil refinery in Richmond, California, has told its members to prepare for a strike shortly after 12 a.m. on Monday barring agreement on a new labor contract. The United Steelworkers union (USW) at the 245,000 barrel-per-day plant outside of San Francisco said in a notice to members that it has canceled a contract extension, "offered the company a safe and orderly shutdown," and was awaiting a reply from Chevron. The refinery is a major supplier in the state of gasoline, jet fuel and diesel fuel. California has some of the highest gasoline prices in the nation with a gallon of unleaded regular selling for $5.847 on Sunday, according to motorist group AAA. https://www.reuters.com/business/energy/union-workers-chevron-refinery-prepare-strike-monday-2022-03-20/ ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
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Gas tax holiday in MD until the end of April. On Sun, Mar 20, 2022 at 9:17 AM Buggered Benzmail via Mercedes < mercedes@okiebenz.com> wrote: > Regular was 3.79 premium 4.39 the other day Premium here is always quite > a bit higher > > Sent from my iPad > > > On Mar 20, 2022, at 9:14 AM, dan penoff.com via Mercedes < > mercedes@okiebenz.com> wrote: > > > > Prices have dropped here in west central Florida. At Costco on Friday > it was $3.999 for regular and $4.299 for premium. Either that or it never > went above these amounts, as that’s the highest I’ve seen it at Costco. > > > > -D > > > >> On Mar 19, 2022, at 10:38 PM, Curt Raymond via Mercedes < > mercedes@okiebenz.com> wrote: > >> > >> I got gas for $4.03 today, diesel is running $4.99. Seems the rise has > rolled back some. > >> > >> -Curt > >> > >> > >> On Saturday, March 19, 2022, 10:08:45 PM EDT, mitch--- via Mercedes < > mercedes@okiebenz.com> wrote: > >> > >> > >>> On 2022-03-05 22:21, Karl Wittnebel via Mercedes wrote: > >>> https://linksharing.samsungcloud.com/5KlLBklKTSZv > >>> > >>> Pushing 7 > >> > >> > >> > https://www.ar15.com/media/mediaFiles/146520/Screenshot_20220319-174108_Facebook-2319576.jpg > >> > >> > >> ___ > >> http://www.okiebenz.com > >> > >> To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ > >> > >> To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: > >> http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com > >> > >> > >> ___ > >> http://www.okiebenz.com > >> > >> To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ > >> > >> To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: > >> http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com > >> > > > > ___ > > http://www.okiebenz.com > > > > To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ > > > > To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: > > http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com > > > > ___ > http://www.okiebenz.com > > To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ > > To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: > http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com > > ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
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Regular was 3.79 premium 4.39 the other day Premium here is always quite a bit higher Sent from my iPad > On Mar 20, 2022, at 9:14 AM, dan penoff.com via Mercedes > wrote: > > Prices have dropped here in west central Florida. At Costco on Friday it was > $3.999 for regular and $4.299 for premium. Either that or it never went above > these amounts, as that’s the highest I’ve seen it at Costco. > > -D > >> On Mar 19, 2022, at 10:38 PM, Curt Raymond via Mercedes >> wrote: >> >> I got gas for $4.03 today, diesel is running $4.99. Seems the rise has >> rolled back some. >> >> -Curt >> >> >> On Saturday, March 19, 2022, 10:08:45 PM EDT, mitch--- via Mercedes >> wrote: >> >> >>> On 2022-03-05 22:21, Karl Wittnebel via Mercedes wrote: >>> https://linksharing.samsungcloud.com/5KlLBklKTSZv >>> >>> Pushing 7 >> >> >> https://www.ar15.com/media/mediaFiles/146520/Screenshot_20220319-174108_Facebook-2319576.jpg >> >> >> ___ >> http://www.okiebenz.com >> >> To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ >> >> To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: >> http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com >> >> >> ___ >> http://www.okiebenz.com >> >> To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ >> >> To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: >> http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com >> > > ___ > http://www.okiebenz.com > > To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ > > To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: > http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com > ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
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Prices have dropped here in west central Florida. At Costco on Friday it was $3.999 for regular and $4.299 for premium. Either that or it never went above these amounts, as that’s the highest I’ve seen it at Costco. -D > On Mar 19, 2022, at 10:38 PM, Curt Raymond via Mercedes > wrote: > > I got gas for $4.03 today, diesel is running $4.99. Seems the rise has rolled > back some. > > -Curt > > > On Saturday, March 19, 2022, 10:08:45 PM EDT, mitch--- via Mercedes > wrote: > > > On 2022-03-05 22:21, Karl Wittnebel via Mercedes wrote: >> https://linksharing.samsungcloud.com/5KlLBklKTSZv >> >> Pushing 7 > > > https://www.ar15.com/media/mediaFiles/146520/Screenshot_20220319-174108_Facebook-2319576.jpg > > > ___ > http://www.okiebenz.com > > To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ > > To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: > http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com > > > ___ > http://www.okiebenz.com > > To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ > > To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: > http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com > ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
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I got gas for $4.03 today, diesel is running $4.99. Seems the rise has rolled back some. -Curt On Saturday, March 19, 2022, 10:08:45 PM EDT, mitch--- via Mercedes wrote: On 2022-03-05 22:21, Karl Wittnebel via Mercedes wrote: > https://linksharing.samsungcloud.com/5KlLBklKTSZv > > Pushing 7 https://www.ar15.com/media/mediaFiles/146520/Screenshot_20220319-174108_Facebook-2319576.jpg ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
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On 2022-03-05 22:21, Karl Wittnebel via Mercedes wrote: https://linksharing.samsungcloud.com/5KlLBklKTSZv Pushing 7 https://www.ar15.com/media/mediaFiles/146520/Screenshot_20220319-174108_Facebook-2319576.jpg ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
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I used to have two wood stoves going most of the time. I obtained free firewood - cut to length logs dumped on my driveway by tree cutting crews in the neighborhood. I would listen for the chain saws, track down the work crew, and then offer to save them a trip to a landfill. Worked great plus I got a workout splitting the wood (usually oak). On Mon, Mar 7, 2022 at 4:42 PM Randy Bennell via Mercedes < mercedes@okiebenz.com> wrote: > On 07/03/2022 2:52 PM, OK Don via Mercedes wrote: > > I wouldn't want to have to buy pellets when I have so much wood on the > lot, > > and don't > > want to have to make sawdust to compress into pellets - seems like a > > solution looking for a problem to me. > > > But pellet stoves light themselves and feed themselves in a controlled > manner. > > Much more automatic than a normal wood stove. Pour a bag into the hopper > and let it alone. > > No requirement for a big chimney. Just small vent. > > Downside is the expense of the pellets. > > Randy > > > ___ > http://www.okiebenz.com > > To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ > > To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: > http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com > > ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
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On 07/03/2022 2:52 PM, OK Don via Mercedes wrote: I wouldn't want to have to buy pellets when I have so much wood on the lot, and don't want to have to make sawdust to compress into pellets - seems like a solution looking for a problem to me. But pellet stoves light themselves and feed themselves in a controlled manner. Much more automatic than a normal wood stove. Pour a bag into the hopper and let it alone. No requirement for a big chimney. Just small vent. Downside is the expense of the pellets. Randy ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
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I wouldn't want to have to buy pellets when I have so much wood on the lot, and don't want to have to make sawdust to compress into pellets - seems like a solution looking for a problem to me. On Mon, Mar 7, 2022 at 1:37 PM Kaleb Striplin via Mercedes < mercedes@okiebenz.com> wrote: > I think I wouldn’t mind a pellet stove. > > Sent from my iPhone > > > On Mar 7, 2022, at 12:06 PM, Curt Raymond wrote: > > > > A wood burner in a living space is a constant mess to keep cleaned up. > Having ours in the basement helps keep the mess away from where we live and > makes it much easier to clean up. > > > > -Curt > > > > On Monday, March 7, 2022, 01:02:05 PM EST, Kaleb Striplin via Mercedes < > mercedes@okiebenz.com> wrote: > > > > > > We have a wood stove/fireplace insert that puts out a lot of heat once > you get it going. I hate dealing with it though so it’s only used in > emergencies. > > > > Sent from my iPhone > > > >> On Mar 7, 2022, at 12:00 PM, Randy Bennell via Mercedes < > mercedes@okiebenz.com> wrote: > >> > >> A wood stove fire is sort of nice if you are going to sit around the > stove feeling the heat and hearing the fire crackle. Not so wonderful if > you need to heat your home with it. > >> If you are going to heat with a wood stove, it needs to be in the > middle of the house and the rooms need to be sort of in a circle around the > central area with the stove. > >> These days it is also a good idea to have a new stove with the > catalytic converter type thing in it so that your neighbours don't call the > environment police to complain. Also good if the stove has its own cold air > intake so that it does not suck air into the house from every small crack. > >> > >> > On 07/03/2022 11:27 AM, dan penoff.com via Mercedes wrote: > >>> True, but I feel just as good about turning up the thermostat, more so > than lugging wood into the house from outside several times a day, having > to light/start a fire every morning, and cleaning out the wood stove and > dumping ashes daily. > >>> > >>> -D > >>> > > On Mar 7, 2022, at 12:22 PM, Allan Streib via Mercedes < > mercedes@okiebenz.com> wrote: > > > On Mon, Mar 7, 2022, at 12:18 PM, dan penoff.com via Mercedes wrote: > > > With a gas bill of under $100/month in the coldest part of the year > > it’s difficult to justify the time and effort to burn firewood, not > to > > mention it’s not exactly the most efficient or cleanest way to heat, > > either. > It is a lot more work, and does emit some smoke/particulate pollution, > but it is carbon-neutral! So you can feel good about it either way. > > > > ___ > http://www.okiebenz.com > > To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ > > To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: > http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com > > > > >>> ___ > >>> http://www.okiebenz.com > >>> > >>> To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ > >>> > >>> To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: > >>> http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com > >>> > >> > >> > >> ___ > >> http://www.okiebenz.com > >> > >> To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ > >> > >> To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: > >> http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com > >> > > > > > > ___ > > http://www.okiebenz.com > > > > To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ > > > > To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: > > http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com > > > > > ___ > http://www.okiebenz.com > > To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ > > To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: > http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com > > -- OK Don "Whenever you find yourself on the side of the majority, it is time to pause and reflect." Mark Twain “Basic research is what I’m doing when I don’t know what I am doing.” Wernher Von Braun 2013 F150, 18 mpg 2017 Subaru Legacy, 30 mpg 1957 C182A, 12 mpg - but at 150 mph! ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
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Again, as others have stated, a wood burning device is of little value unless it’s properly located and installed in the home. And is Regina going to be up for loading and running it while you’re away, or would you only use it when you’re home? -D > On Mar 7, 2022, at 2:36 PM, Kaleb Striplin via Mercedes > wrote: > > I think I wouldn’t mind a pellet stove. > > Sent from my iPhone > >> On Mar 7, 2022, at 12:06 PM, Curt Raymond wrote: >> >> A wood burner in a living space is a constant mess to keep cleaned up. >> Having ours in the basement helps keep the mess away from where we live and >> makes it much easier to clean up. >> >> -Curt >> >> On Monday, March 7, 2022, 01:02:05 PM EST, Kaleb Striplin via Mercedes >> wrote: >> >> >> We have a wood stove/fireplace insert that puts out a lot of heat once you >> get it going. I hate dealing with it though so it’s only used in >> emergencies. >> >> Sent from my iPhone >> >>> On Mar 7, 2022, at 12:00 PM, Randy Bennell via Mercedes >>> wrote: >>> >>> A wood stove fire is sort of nice if you are going to sit around the stove >>> feeling the heat and hearing the fire crackle. Not so wonderful if you need >>> to heat your home with it. >>> If you are going to heat with a wood stove, it needs to be in the middle of >>> the house and the rooms need to be sort of in a circle around the central >>> area with the stove. >>> These days it is also a good idea to have a new stove with the catalytic >>> converter type thing in it so that your neighbours don't call the >>> environment police to complain. Also good if the stove has its own cold air >>> intake so that it does not suck air into the house from every small crack. >>> >>> > On 07/03/2022 11:27 AM, dan penoff.com via Mercedes wrote: True, but I feel just as good about turning up the thermostat, more so than lugging wood into the house from outside several times a day, having to light/start a fire every morning, and cleaning out the wood stove and dumping ashes daily. -D >> On Mar 7, 2022, at 12:22 PM, Allan Streib via Mercedes >> wrote: > >> On Mon, Mar 7, 2022, at 12:18 PM, dan penoff.com via Mercedes wrote: > >> With a gas bill of under $100/month in the coldest part of the year >> it’s difficult to justify the time and effort to burn firewood, not to >> mention it’s not exactly the most efficient or cleanest way to heat, >> either. > It is a lot more work, and does emit some smoke/particulate pollution, > but it is carbon-neutral! So you can feel good about it either way. > > > > ___ > http://www.okiebenz.com > > To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ > > To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: > http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com >> > ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com >>> >>> >>> ___ >>> http://www.okiebenz.com >>> >>> To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ >>> >>> To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: >>> http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com >>> >> >> >> ___ >> http://www.okiebenz.com >> >> To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ >> >> To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: >> http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com >> > > > ___ > http://www.okiebenz.com > > To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ > > To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: > http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com > ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
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They're definitely simpler and easier to live with. Make sure you have an alternate source of electricity so if/when the power is out you still have heat. Downside of pellets is they don't store well long term. As far as I know there is no binder in them, they're just held together with pressure. Fortunately when the degrade they just become sawdust, easy cleanup. Curt On Monday, March 7, 2022, 02:37:12 PM EST, Kaleb Striplin via Mercedes wrote: I think I wouldn’t mind a pellet stove. Sent from my iPhone > On Mar 7, 2022, at 12:06 PM, Curt Raymond wrote: > > A wood burner in a living space is a constant mess to keep cleaned up. > Having ours in the basement helps keep the mess away from where we live and > makes it much easier to clean up. > > -Curt > > On Monday, March 7, 2022, 01:02:05 PM EST, Kaleb Striplin via Mercedes > wrote: > > > We have a wood stove/fireplace insert that puts out a lot of heat once you > get it going. I hate dealing with it though so it’s only used in emergencies. > > Sent from my iPhone > >> On Mar 7, 2022, at 12:00 PM, Randy Bennell via Mercedes >> wrote: >> >> A wood stove fire is sort of nice if you are going to sit around the stove >> feeling the heat and hearing the fire crackle. Not so wonderful if you need >> to heat your home with it. >> If you are going to heat with a wood stove, it needs to be in the middle of >> the house and the rooms need to be sort of in a circle around the central >> area with the stove. >> These days it is also a good idea to have a new stove with the catalytic >> converter type thing in it so that your neighbours don't call the >> environment police to complain. Also good if the stove has its own cold air >> intake so that it does not suck air into the house from every small crack. >> >> On 07/03/2022 11:27 AM, dan penoff.com via Mercedes wrote: >>> True, but I feel just as good about turning up the thermostat, more so than >>> lugging wood into the house from outside several times a day, having to >>> light/start a fire every morning, and cleaning out the wood stove and >>> dumping ashes daily. >>> >>> -D >>> > On Mar 7, 2022, at 12:22 PM, Allan Streib via Mercedes > wrote: > On Mon, Mar 7, 2022, at 12:18 PM, dan penoff.com via Mercedes wrote: > With a gas bill of under $100/month in the coldest part of the year > it’s difficult to justify the time and effort to burn firewood, not to > mention it’s not exactly the most efficient or cleanest way to heat, > either. It is a lot more work, and does emit some smoke/particulate pollution, but it is carbon-neutral! So you can feel good about it either way. ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com > >>> ___ >>> http://www.okiebenz.com >>> >>> To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ >>> >>> To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: >>> http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com >>> >> >> >> ___ >> http://www.okiebenz.com >> >> To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ >> >> To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: >> http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com >> > > > ___ > http://www.okiebenz.com > > To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ > > To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: > http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com > ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
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I think I wouldn’t mind a pellet stove. Sent from my iPhone > On Mar 7, 2022, at 12:06 PM, Curt Raymond wrote: > > A wood burner in a living space is a constant mess to keep cleaned up. > Having ours in the basement helps keep the mess away from where we live and > makes it much easier to clean up. > > -Curt > > On Monday, March 7, 2022, 01:02:05 PM EST, Kaleb Striplin via Mercedes > wrote: > > > We have a wood stove/fireplace insert that puts out a lot of heat once you > get it going. I hate dealing with it though so it’s only used in emergencies. > > Sent from my iPhone > >> On Mar 7, 2022, at 12:00 PM, Randy Bennell via Mercedes >> wrote: >> >> A wood stove fire is sort of nice if you are going to sit around the stove >> feeling the heat and hearing the fire crackle. Not so wonderful if you need >> to heat your home with it. >> If you are going to heat with a wood stove, it needs to be in the middle of >> the house and the rooms need to be sort of in a circle around the central >> area with the stove. >> These days it is also a good idea to have a new stove with the catalytic >> converter type thing in it so that your neighbours don't call the >> environment police to complain. Also good if the stove has its own cold air >> intake so that it does not suck air into the house from every small crack. >> >> On 07/03/2022 11:27 AM, dan penoff.com via Mercedes wrote: >>> True, but I feel just as good about turning up the thermostat, more so than >>> lugging wood into the house from outside several times a day, having to >>> light/start a fire every morning, and cleaning out the wood stove and >>> dumping ashes daily. >>> >>> -D >>> > On Mar 7, 2022, at 12:22 PM, Allan Streib via Mercedes > wrote: > On Mon, Mar 7, 2022, at 12:18 PM, dan penoff.com via Mercedes wrote: > With a gas bill of under $100/month in the coldest part of the year > it’s difficult to justify the time and effort to burn firewood, not to > mention it’s not exactly the most efficient or cleanest way to heat, > either. It is a lot more work, and does emit some smoke/particulate pollution, but it is carbon-neutral! So you can feel good about it either way. ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com > >>> ___ >>> http://www.okiebenz.com >>> >>> To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ >>> >>> To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: >>> http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com >>> >> >> >> ___ >> http://www.okiebenz.com >> >> To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ >> >> To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: >> http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com >> > > > ___ > http://www.okiebenz.com > > To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ > > To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: > http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com > ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
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On 07/03/2022 12:01 PM, Kaleb Striplin via Mercedes wrote: We have a wood stove/fireplace insert that puts out a lot of heat once you get it going. I hate dealing with it though so it’s only used in emergencies. Does it have its own source of combustion air from the outside? We had a wood fireplace that would heat the living room but suck so much air out of the house and up the chimney that the rest of the house would get colder and the gas furnace vent would flow backwards into the basement. We gave up on the wood and installed a gas insert. Randy ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
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A wood burner in a living space is a constant mess to keep cleaned up. Having ours in the basement helps keep the mess away from where we live and makes it much easier to clean up. -Curt On Monday, March 7, 2022, 01:02:05 PM EST, Kaleb Striplin via Mercedes wrote: We have a wood stove/fireplace insert that puts out a lot of heat once you get it going. I hate dealing with it though so it’s only used in emergencies. Sent from my iPhone > On Mar 7, 2022, at 12:00 PM, Randy Bennell via Mercedes > wrote: > > A wood stove fire is sort of nice if you are going to sit around the stove > feeling the heat and hearing the fire crackle. Not so wonderful if you need > to heat your home with it. > If you are going to heat with a wood stove, it needs to be in the middle of > the house and the rooms need to be sort of in a circle around the central > area with the stove. > These days it is also a good idea to have a new stove with the catalytic > converter type thing in it so that your neighbours don't call the environment > police to complain. Also good if the stove has its own cold air intake so > that it does not suck air into the house from every small crack. > > >> On 07/03/2022 11:27 AM, dan penoff.com via Mercedes wrote: >> True, but I feel just as good about turning up the thermostat, more so than >> lugging wood into the house from outside several times a day, having to >> light/start a fire every morning, and cleaning out the wood stove and >> dumping ashes daily. >> >> -D >> On Mar 7, 2022, at 12:22 PM, Allan Streib via Mercedes wrote: >>> On Mon, Mar 7, 2022, at 12:18 PM, dan penoff.com via Mercedes wrote: >>> With a gas bill of under $100/month in the coldest part of the year it’s difficult to justify the time and effort to burn firewood, not to mention it’s not exactly the most efficient or cleanest way to heat, either. >>> It is a lot more work, and does emit some smoke/particulate pollution, >>> but it is carbon-neutral! So you can feel good about it either way. >>> >>> >>> >>> ___ >>> http://www.okiebenz.com >>> >>> To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ >>> >>> To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: >>> http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com >>> >> ___ >> http://www.okiebenz.com >> >> To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ >> >> To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: >> http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com >> > > > ___ > http://www.okiebenz.com > > To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ > > To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: > http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com > ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
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Even without a catalyst most (all?) new stoves have secondary burn that will burn off most of the volitiles. My stove is an older Jotul 118, probably from the '80s. It's got a big secondary burn chamber which also recovers heat from that stuff being burnt off. Once it's burning good it rarely produces any smoke. Mostly just around reloads and then only for a minute or two. That of course assumes good, dry wood. -Curt On Monday, March 7, 2022, 01:00:11 PM EST, Randy Bennell via Mercedes wrote: A wood stove fire is sort of nice if you are going to sit around the stove feeling the heat and hearing the fire crackle. Not so wonderful if you need to heat your home with it. If you are going to heat with a wood stove, it needs to be in the middle of the house and the rooms need to be sort of in a circle around the central area with the stove. These days it is also a good idea to have a new stove with the catalytic converter type thing in it so that your neighbours don't call the environment police to complain. Also good if the stove has its own cold air intake so that it does not suck air into the house from every small crack. On 07/03/2022 11:27 AM, dan penoff.com via Mercedes wrote: > True, but I feel just as good about turning up the thermostat, more so than > lugging wood into the house from outside several times a day, having to > light/start a fire every morning, and cleaning out the wood stove and dumping > ashes daily. > > -D > >> On Mar 7, 2022, at 12:22 PM, Allan Streib via Mercedes >> wrote: >> >> On Mon, Mar 7, 2022, at 12:18 PM, dan penoff.com via Mercedes wrote: >> >>> With a gas bill of under $100/month in the coldest part of the year >>> it’s difficult to justify the time and effort to burn firewood, not to >>> mention it’s not exactly the most efficient or cleanest way to heat, >>> either. >> It is a lot more work, and does emit some smoke/particulate pollution, >> but it is carbon-neutral! So you can feel good about it either way. >> >> >> >> ___ >> http://www.okiebenz.com >> >> To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ >> >> To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: >> http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com >> > ___ > http://www.okiebenz.com > > To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ > > To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: > http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com > ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
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We have a wood stove/fireplace insert that puts out a lot of heat once you get it going. I hate dealing with it though so it’s only used in emergencies. Sent from my iPhone > On Mar 7, 2022, at 12:00 PM, Randy Bennell via Mercedes > wrote: > > A wood stove fire is sort of nice if you are going to sit around the stove > feeling the heat and hearing the fire crackle. Not so wonderful if you need > to heat your home with it. > If you are going to heat with a wood stove, it needs to be in the middle of > the house and the rooms need to be sort of in a circle around the central > area with the stove. > These days it is also a good idea to have a new stove with the catalytic > converter type thing in it so that your neighbours don't call the environment > police to complain. Also good if the stove has its own cold air intake so > that it does not suck air into the house from every small crack. > > >> On 07/03/2022 11:27 AM, dan penoff.com via Mercedes wrote: >> True, but I feel just as good about turning up the thermostat, more so than >> lugging wood into the house from outside several times a day, having to >> light/start a fire every morning, and cleaning out the wood stove and >> dumping ashes daily. >> >> -D >> On Mar 7, 2022, at 12:22 PM, Allan Streib via Mercedes wrote: >>> On Mon, Mar 7, 2022, at 12:18 PM, dan penoff.com via Mercedes wrote: >>> With a gas bill of under $100/month in the coldest part of the year it’s difficult to justify the time and effort to burn firewood, not to mention it’s not exactly the most efficient or cleanest way to heat, either. >>> It is a lot more work, and does emit some smoke/particulate pollution, >>> but it is carbon-neutral! So you can feel good about it either way. >>> >>> >>> >>> ___ >>> http://www.okiebenz.com >>> >>> To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ >>> >>> To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: >>> http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com >>> >> ___ >> http://www.okiebenz.com >> >> To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ >> >> To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: >> http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com >> > > > ___ > http://www.okiebenz.com > > To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ > > To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: > http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com > ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
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A wood stove fire is sort of nice if you are going to sit around the stove feeling the heat and hearing the fire crackle. Not so wonderful if you need to heat your home with it. If you are going to heat with a wood stove, it needs to be in the middle of the house and the rooms need to be sort of in a circle around the central area with the stove. These days it is also a good idea to have a new stove with the catalytic converter type thing in it so that your neighbours don't call the environment police to complain. Also good if the stove has its own cold air intake so that it does not suck air into the house from every small crack. On 07/03/2022 11:27 AM, dan penoff.com via Mercedes wrote: True, but I feel just as good about turning up the thermostat, more so than lugging wood into the house from outside several times a day, having to light/start a fire every morning, and cleaning out the wood stove and dumping ashes daily. -D On Mar 7, 2022, at 12:22 PM, Allan Streib via Mercedes wrote: On Mon, Mar 7, 2022, at 12:18 PM, dan penoff.com via Mercedes wrote: With a gas bill of under $100/month in the coldest part of the year it’s difficult to justify the time and effort to burn firewood, not to mention it’s not exactly the most efficient or cleanest way to heat, either. It is a lot more work, and does emit some smoke/particulate pollution, but it is carbon-neutral! So you can feel good about it either way. ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
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We're fortunate to have a small house with the wood stove in the basement. It heats up the floors and thus the upstairs. Our bedroom is the farthest room from the stove and thus the coldest. To heat that room up I vacuum the bedroom. We've got central vac, the canister for which is in the basement by the stove. The vac sucks cold air out of the bedroom and pressurizes the basement which forces warm air up the basement vent. Works a treat... -Curt On Monday, March 7, 2022, 12:28:24 PM EST, dan penoff.com via Mercedes wrote: True, but I feel just as good about turning up the thermostat, more so than lugging wood into the house from outside several times a day, having to light/start a fire every morning, and cleaning out the wood stove and dumping ashes daily. -D > On Mar 7, 2022, at 12:22 PM, Allan Streib via Mercedes > wrote: > > On Mon, Mar 7, 2022, at 12:18 PM, dan penoff.com via Mercedes wrote: > >> With a gas bill of under $100/month in the coldest part of the year >> it’s difficult to justify the time and effort to burn firewood, not to >> mention it’s not exactly the most efficient or cleanest way to heat, >> either. > > It is a lot more work, and does emit some smoke/particulate pollution, > but it is carbon-neutral! So you can feel good about it either way. > > > > ___ > http://www.okiebenz.com > > To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ > > To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: > http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com > ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
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True, but I feel just as good about turning up the thermostat, more so than lugging wood into the house from outside several times a day, having to light/start a fire every morning, and cleaning out the wood stove and dumping ashes daily. -D > On Mar 7, 2022, at 12:22 PM, Allan Streib via Mercedes > wrote: > > On Mon, Mar 7, 2022, at 12:18 PM, dan penoff.com via Mercedes wrote: > >> With a gas bill of under $100/month in the coldest part of the year >> it’s difficult to justify the time and effort to burn firewood, not to >> mention it’s not exactly the most efficient or cleanest way to heat, >> either. > > It is a lot more work, and does emit some smoke/particulate pollution, > but it is carbon-neutral! So you can feel good about it either way. > > > > ___ > http://www.okiebenz.com > > To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ > > To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: > http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com > ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
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On Mon, Mar 7, 2022, at 12:18 PM, dan penoff.com via Mercedes wrote: > With a gas bill of under $100/month in the coldest part of the year > it’s difficult to justify the time and effort to burn firewood, not to > mention it’s not exactly the most efficient or cleanest way to heat, > either. It is a lot more work, and does emit some smoke/particulate pollution, but it is carbon-neutral! So you can feel good about it either way. ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
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We ran the wood stove for a few days to see how it would go, and while it made that part of the house “toasty”, there was no good way to distribute the heat throughout the rest of the house. The wood stove is in the far corner of a former 2 car garage that was converted to living space many years ago. As a result, there’s limited airflow from the HVAC system out there, so there’s no viable way to “push” the heated air into the rest of the house. I tried using a box fan to blow air from the are to the rest of the house, but again, it wasn’t terribly efficient and didn’t really make a significant difference, even with using the HVAC blower to move air around. That and it consumed wood at a crazy rate. I have a couple of those big canvas “carriers” you use to carry wood around, and it would easily go through one to one and a half of those in wood in a day. In the week or two that we ran it, just during the day, I probably went through a 1/4 of a cord or more. You can get free wood for the taking from parts of the National Forests around here, but it goes really fast as one might expect. That and I don’t really have the means to collect and manage a large volume of firewood, unless I get a trailer for the ML. With a gas bill of under $100/month in the coldest part of the year it’s difficult to justify the time and effort to burn firewood, not to mention it’s not exactly the most efficient or cleanest way to heat, either. Thankfully, we’ve got double-pane windows but I don’t think they’re anything fancy with gas between the panes. One advantage of multi-pane windows is cutting down on noise, too. -D > On Mar 7, 2022, at 11:23 AM, Jim Cathey via Mercedes > wrote: > > _All_ we did was double up the attic blown-in insulation. Made a very > noticeable difference. We use wood auxiliary heat, maybe 5 cords a year. > I've never paid a dime for any of it. Free downed trees, or I cut off of our > acreage in a pinch. > > I dislike sealed multipane windows, they're all ticking time bomb$. For a > brief time you could get NON-sealed 2-pane windows. They never fail. > Ours are Pella, but I was told, perhaps by somebody who doesn't really > know, that this was no longer possible. There was only a percent or three > difference on the energy efficiency, but they're 'forever' windows. > > You can't begin to imagine how much I loathe the 'subscription model' that > seems to be everywhere now. Even for windows... > > -- Jim > > > ___ > http://www.okiebenz.com > > To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ > > To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: > http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com > ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
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I've been slowly adding insulation to our attic. This week I plan to go get the rest, I've got a bunch of Home Depot gift cards... I've been using unfaced fiberglass laid perpendicular to the existing fiberglass. The rafters are 2x6 so like R19, I'm adding R30. Even having done only half the house I can tell the difference in the heating bill. It's horrible hard work but worth doing... -Curt On Monday, March 7, 2022, 11:24:42 AM EST, Jim Cathey via Mercedes wrote: _All_ we did was double up the attic blown-in insulation. Made a very noticeable difference. We use wood auxiliary heat, maybe 5 cords a year. I've never paid a dime for any of it. Free downed trees, or I cut off of our acreage in a pinch. I dislike sealed multipane windows, they're all ticking time bomb$. For a brief time you could get NON-sealed 2-pane windows. They never fail. Ours are Pella, but I was told, perhaps by somebody who doesn't really know, that this was no longer possible. There was only a percent or three difference on the energy efficiency, but they're 'forever' windows. You can't begin to imagine how much I loathe the 'subscription model' that seems to be everywhere now. Even for windows... -- Jim ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
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_All_ we did was double up the attic blown-in insulation. Made a very noticeable difference. We use wood auxiliary heat, maybe 5 cords a year. I've never paid a dime for any of it. Free downed trees, or I cut off of our acreage in a pinch. I dislike sealed multipane windows, they're all ticking time bomb$. For a brief time you could get NON-sealed 2-pane windows. They never fail. Ours are Pella, but I was told, perhaps by somebody who doesn't really know, that this was no longer possible. There was only a percent or three difference on the energy efficiency, but they're 'forever' windows. You can't begin to imagine how much I loathe the 'subscription model' that seems to be everywhere now. Even for windows... -- Jim ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
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> I thought the paper/moisture barrier always faced the living space? The moisture barrier always faces the wetter side. Usually that's the inside, but not in all locales. -- Jim ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
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Yes, you used to be able to write off the difference on your taxes but can’t do that anymore. They don’t allow any claiming of miles for work unless it’s a schedule c. Sent from my iPhone > On Mar 7, 2022, at 6:41 AM, dan penoff.com via Mercedes > wrote: > > It’s their choice. > > I dealt with that when I was a field tech with the school system. Cheap > bastards gave you two choices: Accept their paltry mileage reimbursement on a > monthly basis, or just put in for it yourself with your taxes. I did both, > which seemed to confuse them. I claimed the difference between what they paid > and the IRS reimbursement. It wasn’t much, but it was a matter of principle. > > -D > >> On Mar 6, 2022, at 10:21 PM, Kaleb Striplin via Mercedes >> wrote: >> >> Currently we receive .575 per mile on expense reports. Since being acquired >> last year we have not moved to their expense reporting system but I have >> heard their rate is something like .40 or .42 per mile. Hopefully I heard >> wrong. >> >> >>> On 3/6/2022 7:42 PM, dan penoff.com via Mercedes wrote: >>> Good point, Kaleb. Mitch, what’s the IRS reimbursement for mileage these >>> days? >>> >>> -D >>> On Mar 6, 2022, at 8:40 PM, Kaleb Striplin via Mercedes wrote: One thing folks have not mentioned yet. Last time fuel prices exploded the demand was much higher. With the Covid bs going on, we have now moved to more remote work so a lot of folks don’t have to drive near as much as before. Pretty soon, rather than getting expensed for miles for work, might have to switch to renting cars and expensing that and the fuel. Sent from my iPhone > On Mar 6, 2022, at 4:10 PM, Rick Knoble via Mercedes > wrote: > > Gorda, CA. Highest prices I can find right now. > > https://www.ksbw.com/article/gas-prices-in-gorda-hit-dollar759/39341899 > > $8.49 9/10 for premium. > > Coming to a city near you. > > Wish I had the equipment and parts to rebuild Mercedes diesel injection > pumps. There will be a ton of cars for sale cheap when they get destroyed > by morons. > > > Rick > ___ > http://www.okiebenz.com > > To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ > > To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: > http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com > ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com >>> ___ >>> http://www.okiebenz.com >>> >>> To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ >>> >>> To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: >>> http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com >>> >> >> >> ___ >> http://www.okiebenz.com >> >> To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ >> >> To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: >> http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com >> > > ___ > http://www.okiebenz.com > > To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ > > To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: > http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com > ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
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It’s their choice. I dealt with that when I was a field tech with the school system. Cheap bastards gave you two choices: Accept their paltry mileage reimbursement on a monthly basis, or just put in for it yourself with your taxes. I did both, which seemed to confuse them. I claimed the difference between what they paid and the IRS reimbursement. It wasn’t much, but it was a matter of principle. -D > On Mar 6, 2022, at 10:21 PM, Kaleb Striplin via Mercedes > wrote: > > Currently we receive .575 per mile on expense reports. Since being acquired > last year we have not moved to their expense reporting system but I have > heard their rate is something like .40 or .42 per mile. Hopefully I heard > wrong. > > > On 3/6/2022 7:42 PM, dan penoff.com via Mercedes wrote: >> Good point, Kaleb. Mitch, what’s the IRS reimbursement for mileage these >> days? >> >> -D >> >>> On Mar 6, 2022, at 8:40 PM, Kaleb Striplin via Mercedes >>> wrote: >>> >>> One thing folks have not mentioned yet. Last time fuel prices exploded the >>> demand was much higher. With the Covid bs going on, we have now moved to >>> more remote work so a lot of folks don’t have to drive near as much as >>> before. >>> >>> Pretty soon, rather than getting expensed for miles for work, might have to >>> switch to renting cars and expensing that and the fuel. >>> >>> Sent from my iPhone >>> On Mar 6, 2022, at 4:10 PM, Rick Knoble via Mercedes wrote: Gorda, CA. Highest prices I can find right now. https://www.ksbw.com/article/gas-prices-in-gorda-hit-dollar759/39341899 $8.49 9/10 for premium. Coming to a city near you. Wish I had the equipment and parts to rebuild Mercedes diesel injection pumps. There will be a ton of cars for sale cheap when they get destroyed by morons. Rick ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com >>> >>> ___ >>> http://www.okiebenz.com >>> >>> To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ >>> >>> To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: >>> http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com >>> >> ___ >> http://www.okiebenz.com >> >> To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ >> >> To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: >> http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com >> > > > ___ > http://www.okiebenz.com > > To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ > > To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: > http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com > ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
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Currently we receive .575 per mile on expense reports. Since being acquired last year we have not moved to their expense reporting system but I have heard their rate is something like .40 or .42 per mile. Hopefully I heard wrong. On 3/6/2022 7:42 PM, dan penoff.com via Mercedes wrote: Good point, Kaleb. Mitch, what’s the IRS reimbursement for mileage these days? -D On Mar 6, 2022, at 8:40 PM, Kaleb Striplin via Mercedes wrote: One thing folks have not mentioned yet. Last time fuel prices exploded the demand was much higher. With the Covid bs going on, we have now moved to more remote work so a lot of folks don’t have to drive near as much as before. Pretty soon, rather than getting expensed for miles for work, might have to switch to renting cars and expensing that and the fuel. Sent from my iPhone On Mar 6, 2022, at 4:10 PM, Rick Knoble via Mercedes wrote: Gorda, CA. Highest prices I can find right now. https://www.ksbw.com/article/gas-prices-in-gorda-hit-dollar759/39341899 $8.49 9/10 for premium. Coming to a city near you. Wish I had the equipment and parts to rebuild Mercedes diesel injection pumps. There will be a ton of cars for sale cheap when they get destroyed by morons. Rick ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
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Yeah. That coupe is still there. On Sun, Mar 6, 2022, 2:15 PM dan penoff.com via Mercedes < mercedes@okiebenz.com> wrote: > Not a surprise, since Gorda is just south of Big Sur and there’s literally > nothing in the way of infrastructure anywhere near. I’m sure the prices are > close to this all along that part of the coast as well as on the Lost Coast > (northern CA near the OR border.) > > They were at or near $4.00/gallon for regular unleaded in Flagstaff > yesterday. All of their fuel gets trucked in from PHX, two hours to the > south. I’m heading back in a few weeks, I’m sure it will be much higher > then. Thank goodness I work from home and everywhere else I go is within a > couple miles of the house. > > Time to go V12 shopping! > > -D > > > On Mar 6, 2022, at 5:09 PM, Rick Knoble via Mercedes < > mercedes@okiebenz.com> wrote: > > > > Gorda, CA. Highest prices I can find right now. > > > > https://www.ksbw.com/article/gas-prices-in-gorda-hit-dollar759/39341899 > > > > $8.49 9/10 for premium. > > > > Coming to a city near you. > > > > Wish I had the equipment and parts to rebuild Mercedes diesel injection > pumps. There will be a ton of cars for sale cheap when they get destroyed > by morons. > > > > > > Rick > > ___ > > http://www.okiebenz.com > > > > To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ > > > > To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: > > http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com > > > > ___ > http://www.okiebenz.com > > To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ > > To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: > http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com > > ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
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Looks like 58.5 cents per mile for business. https://www.irs.gov/tax-professionals/standard-mileage-rates On Sun, Mar 6, 2022, at 8:42 PM, dan penoff.com via Mercedes wrote: > Good point, Kaleb. Mitch, what’s the IRS reimbursement for mileage these days? > > -D > >> On Mar 6, 2022, at 8:40 PM, Kaleb Striplin via Mercedes >> wrote: >> >> One thing folks have not mentioned yet. Last time fuel prices exploded the >> demand was much higher. With the Covid bs going on, we have now moved to >> more remote work so a lot of folks don’t have to drive near as much as >> before. >> >> Pretty soon, rather than getting expensed for miles for work, might have to >> switch to renting cars and expensing that and the fuel. >> >> Sent from my iPhone >> >>> On Mar 6, 2022, at 4:10 PM, Rick Knoble via Mercedes >>> wrote: >>> >>> Gorda, CA. Highest prices I can find right now. >>> >>> https://www.ksbw.com/article/gas-prices-in-gorda-hit-dollar759/39341899 >>> >>> $8.49 9/10 for premium. >>> >>> Coming to a city near you. >>> >>> Wish I had the equipment and parts to rebuild Mercedes diesel injection >>> pumps. There will be a ton of cars for sale cheap when they get destroyed >>> by morons. >>> >>> >>> Rick >>> ___ >>> http://www.okiebenz.com >>> >>> To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ >>> >>> To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: >>> http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com >>> >> >> >> ___ >> http://www.okiebenz.com >> >> To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ >> >> To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: >> http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com >> > > ___ > http://www.okiebenz.com > > To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ > > To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: > http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
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Good point, Kaleb. Mitch, what’s the IRS reimbursement for mileage these days? -D > On Mar 6, 2022, at 8:40 PM, Kaleb Striplin via Mercedes > wrote: > > One thing folks have not mentioned yet. Last time fuel prices exploded the > demand was much higher. With the Covid bs going on, we have now moved to more > remote work so a lot of folks don’t have to drive near as much as before. > > Pretty soon, rather than getting expensed for miles for work, might have to > switch to renting cars and expensing that and the fuel. > > Sent from my iPhone > >> On Mar 6, 2022, at 4:10 PM, Rick Knoble via Mercedes >> wrote: >> >> Gorda, CA. Highest prices I can find right now. >> >> https://www.ksbw.com/article/gas-prices-in-gorda-hit-dollar759/39341899 >> >> $8.49 9/10 for premium. >> >> Coming to a city near you. >> >> Wish I had the equipment and parts to rebuild Mercedes diesel injection >> pumps. There will be a ton of cars for sale cheap when they get destroyed by >> morons. >> >> >> Rick >> ___ >> http://www.okiebenz.com >> >> To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ >> >> To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: >> http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com >> > > > ___ > http://www.okiebenz.com > > To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ > > To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: > http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com > ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
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One thing folks have not mentioned yet. Last time fuel prices exploded the demand was much higher. With the Covid bs going on, we have now moved to more remote work so a lot of folks don’t have to drive near as much as before. Pretty soon, rather than getting expensed for miles for work, might have to switch to renting cars and expensing that and the fuel. Sent from my iPhone > On Mar 6, 2022, at 4:10 PM, Rick Knoble via Mercedes > wrote: > > Gorda, CA. Highest prices I can find right now. > > https://www.ksbw.com/article/gas-prices-in-gorda-hit-dollar759/39341899 > > $8.49 9/10 for premium. > > Coming to a city near you. > > Wish I had the equipment and parts to rebuild Mercedes diesel injection > pumps. There will be a ton of cars for sale cheap when they get destroyed by > morons. > > > Rick > ___ > http://www.okiebenz.com > > To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ > > To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: > http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com > ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
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That reminds me that my standby generator guy comes tomorrow morning for my twice a year PM visit. Guess I should check my 500 gallon tank and see what it needs. The propane places around here are so messed up - it’s just the national chains, no locals. Of course they all want to sell you a plan where they come by regularly to top off the tank, but they don’t seem to understand a generator as a consumer of fuel in that it uses very little just exercising weekly. They also try to screw you over if you own your tank - they all wanted to charge me an “inspection fee” before they would fill my tank. Some were as high as $200! I think I ended up with AmeriGas, who quoted me $69. What was funny was the guy came out and filled it, then the guy came later the same day to inspect the tank. Yes, a scam no doubt. Lucky for me I got the tank installer to fill it the first time. He’s about 50 miles away or he would be my regular supplier. -D > On Mar 6, 2022, at 7:07 PM, mitch--- via Mercedes > wrote: > > On 2022-03-06 12:13, Dimitri Seretakis via Mercedes wrote: >> So what about home heating oil? What happens next winter when I have >> to heat my house? At this rate it is doubtful that prices will >> normalize by then and I go through a full 250 gallon tank of oil >> during the winter and that’s keeping the house at 60 degrees on >> average. If oil hits $8 per gallon by then which is not a stretch then >> I will be paying $2000 per month to heat my house. > > > I log my propane tank levels weekly. > Today the one I'm using (500 gal) was at 19%, down from 80% in September. > So I've used 300g and look to be on track to finish in my typical 325-350 > range if March and April are reasonably warm. Have about 400g left in the > other tank. I spent over $1000 filling both tanks last year but that's > because I didn't fill in 2020 and bought two years' worth. I don't think I'll > be buying propane for $1.36 this summer...may be lucky if it's under $2. > > ___ > http://www.okiebenz.com > > To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ > > To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: > http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com > ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
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On 2022-03-06 19:18, Allan Streib via Mercedes wrote: I generally do enough shopping at Kroger that I get $0.20 or more discount per gallon with every fill up. Friday night I paid $3.79 on a posted price of $3.99 for 87. Have not been in town since then to see what it is at but will be running out shortly to pick up son at airport. We'll see It's usually 20 or 30 cents cheaper in Indianapolis than here so I might fill up on the way home. gasbuddy.com is your friend here. Check prices along your route and pick where you want to stop. ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
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I generally do enough shopping at Kroger that I get $0.20 or more discount per gallon with every fill up. Friday night I paid $3.79 on a posted price of $3.99 for 87. Have not been in town since then to see what it is at but will be running out shortly to pick up son at airport. We'll see It's usually 20 or 30 cents cheaper in Indianapolis than here so I might fill up on the way home. On Sun, Mar 6, 2022, at 7:11 PM, mitch--- via Mercedes wrote: > Filled up at 3.89 today, $0.20 less than I would have paid at the same > station last night. So I get to say for one more week that I've never > paid $4 for regular. > Saw a Presidential Pump Sticker in the wild for the first time, Joe was > pointing at the 3.89 price above the regular button but not any of the > other buttons. Same pump did not have a sticker on it Tuesday. I assume > the prankster was waiting for $4. > > ___ > http://www.okiebenz.com > > To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ > > To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: > http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
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Filled up at 3.89 today, $0.20 less than I would have paid at the same station last night. So I get to say for one more week that I've never paid $4 for regular. Saw a Presidential Pump Sticker in the wild for the first time, Joe was pointing at the 3.89 price above the regular button but not any of the other buttons. Same pump did not have a sticker on it Tuesday. I assume the prankster was waiting for $4. ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
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On 2022-03-06 12:13, Dimitri Seretakis via Mercedes wrote: So what about home heating oil? What happens next winter when I have to heat my house? At this rate it is doubtful that prices will normalize by then and I go through a full 250 gallon tank of oil during the winter and that’s keeping the house at 60 degrees on average. If oil hits $8 per gallon by then which is not a stretch then I will be paying $2000 per month to heat my house. I log my propane tank levels weekly. Today the one I'm using (500 gal) was at 19%, down from 80% in September. So I've used 300g and look to be on track to finish in my typical 325-350 range if March and April are reasonably warm. Have about 400g left in the other tank. I spent over $1000 filling both tanks last year but that's because I didn't fill in 2020 and bought two years' worth. I don't think I'll be buying propane for $1.36 this summer...may be lucky if it's under $2. ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
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Gas jumped to $3.99 just about everywhere here. Diesel at $4.69 still. I'm thinking I ought to grab an extra 15 gallons of diesel before the price goes up. Curt Sent from Yahoo Mail on Android On Sun, Mar 6, 2022 at 5:15 PM, dan penoff.com via Mercedes wrote: Not a surprise, since Gorda is just south of Big Sur and there’s literally nothing in the way of infrastructure anywhere near. I’m sure the prices are close to this all along that part of the coast as well as on the Lost Coast (northern CA near the OR border.) They were at or near $4.00/gallon for regular unleaded in Flagstaff yesterday. All of their fuel gets trucked in from PHX, two hours to the south. I’m heading back in a few weeks, I’m sure it will be much higher then. Thank goodness I work from home and everywhere else I go is within a couple miles of the house. Time to go V12 shopping! -D > On Mar 6, 2022, at 5:09 PM, Rick Knoble via Mercedes > wrote: > > Gorda, CA. Highest prices I can find right now. > > https://www.ksbw.com/article/gas-prices-in-gorda-hit-dollar759/39341899 > > $8.49 9/10 for premium. > > Coming to a city near you. > > Wish I had the equipment and parts to rebuild Mercedes diesel injection > pumps. There will be a ton of cars for sale cheap when they get destroyed by > morons. > > > Rick > ___ > http://www.okiebenz.com > > To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ > > To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: > http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com > ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
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Not a surprise, since Gorda is just south of Big Sur and there’s literally nothing in the way of infrastructure anywhere near. I’m sure the prices are close to this all along that part of the coast as well as on the Lost Coast (northern CA near the OR border.) They were at or near $4.00/gallon for regular unleaded in Flagstaff yesterday. All of their fuel gets trucked in from PHX, two hours to the south. I’m heading back in a few weeks, I’m sure it will be much higher then. Thank goodness I work from home and everywhere else I go is within a couple miles of the house. Time to go V12 shopping! -D > On Mar 6, 2022, at 5:09 PM, Rick Knoble via Mercedes > wrote: > > Gorda, CA. Highest prices I can find right now. > > https://www.ksbw.com/article/gas-prices-in-gorda-hit-dollar759/39341899 > > $8.49 9/10 for premium. > > Coming to a city near you. > > Wish I had the equipment and parts to rebuild Mercedes diesel injection > pumps. There will be a ton of cars for sale cheap when they get destroyed by > morons. > > > Rick > ___ > http://www.okiebenz.com > > To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ > > To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: > http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com > ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
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Gorda, CA. Highest prices I can find right now. https://www.ksbw.com/article/gas-prices-in-gorda-hit-dollar759/39341899 $8.49 9/10 for premium. Coming to a city near you. Wish I had the equipment and parts to rebuild Mercedes diesel injection pumps. There will be a ton of cars for sale cheap when they get destroyed by morons. Rick ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
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I have never seen one but really only have our 2 houses to compare to. Sent from my iPhone > On Mar 6, 2022, at 1:56 PM, OK Don via Mercedes wrote: > > our previous house was built in 1978 with a floor over a crawl space. The > floor was insulated when it was built. I can't believe that the houses in > Kaleb's neck of the woods don't have insulated floors. > >> On Sun, Mar 6, 2022 at 1:29 PM Kaleb Striplin via Mercedes < >> mercedes@okiebenz.com> wrote: >> >> Neither one of our houses has insulation under the floors and I can't >> say I have heard of it being done around here. Might be a good idea >> though. >> >>> On 3/6/2022 1:26 PM, dan penoff.com via Mercedes wrote: >>> Like Floyd said, or batts with paper backing stapled to the joists, >> although the second approach is less desirable because the paper backing >> can get damp and fail, allowing the insulation to fall out. >>> >>> With 12” joists, we got somewhere in the area of R-30 to R-40 of >> insulation in the floors out of that. I’m not sure what thickness batts >> they used, I would have to go back and look at the work order. They also >> insulated all exposed pipes as well, since the insulation would reduce heat >> transmission from the house and allow the air temperature in the crawl to >> be closer to ambient, potentially allowing any exposed (copper) pipes to >> freeze. >>> >>> I’m still stunned that the place never had insulation in the >> floor/crawl. It had to be a frickin’ icebox in the wintertime, or the PO >> ran the wood stove full bore 24/7, which would have been pretty expensive >> with the amount of wood it consumes. >>> >>> -D >>> On Mar 6, 2022, at 2:08 PM, Kaleb Striplin via Mercedes < >> mercedes@okiebenz.com> wrote: How do you install insulation in the crawl space? Do they attach it >> under the sun floor between the joists somehow? Sent from my iPhone > On Mar 6, 2022, at 12:26 PM, dan penoff.com via Mercedes < >> mercedes@okiebenz.com> wrote: > > And make sure your home is as efficient as possible, too. > > I’m not discounting the increase in fuel costs by any means, but a lot >> of times people will only look at the direct expense (of fuel) rather than >> ways of increasing efficiency. > > For example, at the Flagstaff house we had an energy audit done right >> out of the gate that showed some glaring efficiency issues that we expected >> based on our survey of the house when we bought it. The house is about >> 2,000 sf, wood frame construction from 1975 on a crawl space. The floor of >> the house was not insulated, and never had been since it was built. Blow-in >> insulation in the attic space was a mess from being moved around during >> several renovations as well as having settled. In fact, it was so bad in >> some spots it caused ice dams on the roof that resulted in ceiling damage >> in one part of the house, yet the PO didn’t do anything about it. > > We took an aggressive approach, which wasn’t cheap, but had insulation >> installed in the floor/crawl space, the attic insulation straightened out >> and more blown in, and a blower door test done before and after with any >> and all gaps or leaks addressed. > > A new furnace was installed, however, this was a choice on our part >> due to the age of the existing furnace (28+ years) that was in the mid to >> upper 90% efficiency range. Windows and doors were already good, so no need >> to do anything there. While they weren't efficiency considerations, we >> added air conditioning to the house with the new furnace and a mini-split >> to an addition that was poorly insulated and conditioned. > > Total cost? About $8,000 not including the AC and mini-split. We >> recovered about $1,000 of those costs in rebates from state, local and >> Federal rebates and tax credits. > > It will take some years to recover the costs, but the real gain is in >> the level of comfort that exists in the house. Parts of it were colder than >> heck, and I can’t even begin to imagine what it was like with no insulation >> in the floor (we had the insulation work done in September.) The PO >> installed a wood stove, but we never use it as it’s not necessary. > > The gas bill last month for heating, water heating (demand water >> heater) and cooking was $93.00. Coldest month of the year so far, and we >> keep it at a comfortable 68F during the day while turning it down to 66F at >> night. Ambients can often get down into the single digits at night in the >> winter at this location, so having that tight envelope with a solid amount >> of insulation makes the place very efficient. > > For those of us who lived through the energy crunch in the 1970s, the >> one good thing it did was forced people to look more closely at >> efficiencies in how we use energy as well as alternatives. > > -D > > > >> On Mar 6, 2022, at 1:05 PM, Randy Bennell via
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our previous house was built in 1978 with a floor over a crawl space. The floor was insulated when it was built. I can't believe that the houses in Kaleb's neck of the woods don't have insulated floors. On Sun, Mar 6, 2022 at 1:29 PM Kaleb Striplin via Mercedes < mercedes@okiebenz.com> wrote: > Neither one of our houses has insulation under the floors and I can't > say I have heard of it being done around here. Might be a good idea > though. > > On 3/6/2022 1:26 PM, dan penoff.com via Mercedes wrote: > > Like Floyd said, or batts with paper backing stapled to the joists, > although the second approach is less desirable because the paper backing > can get damp and fail, allowing the insulation to fall out. > > > > With 12” joists, we got somewhere in the area of R-30 to R-40 of > insulation in the floors out of that. I’m not sure what thickness batts > they used, I would have to go back and look at the work order. They also > insulated all exposed pipes as well, since the insulation would reduce heat > transmission from the house and allow the air temperature in the crawl to > be closer to ambient, potentially allowing any exposed (copper) pipes to > freeze. > > > > I’m still stunned that the place never had insulation in the > floor/crawl. It had to be a frickin’ icebox in the wintertime, or the PO > ran the wood stove full bore 24/7, which would have been pretty expensive > with the amount of wood it consumes. > > > > -D > > > >> On Mar 6, 2022, at 2:08 PM, Kaleb Striplin via Mercedes < > mercedes@okiebenz.com> wrote: > >> > >> How do you install insulation in the crawl space? Do they attach it > under the sun floor between the joists somehow? > >> > >> Sent from my iPhone > >> > >>> On Mar 6, 2022, at 12:26 PM, dan penoff.com via Mercedes < > mercedes@okiebenz.com> wrote: > >>> > >>> And make sure your home is as efficient as possible, too. > >>> > >>> I’m not discounting the increase in fuel costs by any means, but a lot > of times people will only look at the direct expense (of fuel) rather than > ways of increasing efficiency. > >>> > >>> For example, at the Flagstaff house we had an energy audit done right > out of the gate that showed some glaring efficiency issues that we expected > based on our survey of the house when we bought it. The house is about > 2,000 sf, wood frame construction from 1975 on a crawl space. The floor of > the house was not insulated, and never had been since it was built. Blow-in > insulation in the attic space was a mess from being moved around during > several renovations as well as having settled. In fact, it was so bad in > some spots it caused ice dams on the roof that resulted in ceiling damage > in one part of the house, yet the PO didn’t do anything about it. > >>> > >>> We took an aggressive approach, which wasn’t cheap, but had insulation > installed in the floor/crawl space, the attic insulation straightened out > and more blown in, and a blower door test done before and after with any > and all gaps or leaks addressed. > >>> > >>> A new furnace was installed, however, this was a choice on our part > due to the age of the existing furnace (28+ years) that was in the mid to > upper 90% efficiency range. Windows and doors were already good, so no need > to do anything there. While they weren't efficiency considerations, we > added air conditioning to the house with the new furnace and a mini-split > to an addition that was poorly insulated and conditioned. > >>> > >>> Total cost? About $8,000 not including the AC and mini-split. We > recovered about $1,000 of those costs in rebates from state, local and > Federal rebates and tax credits. > >>> > >>> It will take some years to recover the costs, but the real gain is in > the level of comfort that exists in the house. Parts of it were colder than > heck, and I can’t even begin to imagine what it was like with no insulation > in the floor (we had the insulation work done in September.) The PO > installed a wood stove, but we never use it as it’s not necessary. > >>> > >>> The gas bill last month for heating, water heating (demand water > heater) and cooking was $93.00. Coldest month of the year so far, and we > keep it at a comfortable 68F during the day while turning it down to 66F at > night. Ambients can often get down into the single digits at night in the > winter at this location, so having that tight envelope with a solid amount > of insulation makes the place very efficient. > >>> > >>> For those of us who lived through the energy crunch in the 1970s, the > one good thing it did was forced people to look more closely at > efficiencies in how we use energy as well as alternatives. > >>> > >>> -D > >>> > >>> > >>> > On Mar 6, 2022, at 1:05 PM, Randy Bennell via Mercedes < > mercedes@okiebenz.com> wrote: > > Time to look into alternative heat sources. > > > > On 3/6/2022 11:13 AM, Dimitri Seretakis via Mercedes wrote: > > So what about home heating oil? What happens next
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I believe that’s correct, I’m just saying I’ve seen it installed in crawl spaces/floor joists this way as well, but it’s not the ideal/appropriate method from what I understand. -D > On Mar 6, 2022, at 2:34 PM, Allan Streib via Mercedes > wrote: > > I thought the paper/moisture barrier always faced the living space? > > > On Sun, Mar 6, 2022, at 2:26 PM, dan penoff.com via Mercedes wrote: >> Like Floyd said, or batts with paper backing stapled to the joists, >> although the second approach is less desirable because the paper >> backing can get damp and fail, allowing the insulation to fall out. >> >> With 12” joists, we got somewhere in the area of R-30 to R-40 of >> insulation in the floors out of that. I’m not sure what thickness batts >> they used, I would have to go back and look at the work order. They >> also insulated all exposed pipes as well, since the insulation would >> reduce heat transmission from the house and allow the air temperature >> in the crawl to be closer to ambient, potentially allowing any exposed >> (copper) pipes to freeze. >> >> I’m still stunned that the place never had insulation in the >> floor/crawl. It had to be a frickin’ icebox in the wintertime, or the >> PO ran the wood stove full bore 24/7, which would have been pretty >> expensive with the amount of wood it consumes. >> >> -D >> >>> On Mar 6, 2022, at 2:08 PM, Kaleb Striplin via Mercedes >>> wrote: >>> >>> How do you install insulation in the crawl space? Do they attach it under >>> the sun floor between the joists somehow? >>> >>> Sent from my iPhone >>> On Mar 6, 2022, at 12:26 PM, dan penoff.com via Mercedes wrote: And make sure your home is as efficient as possible, too. I’m not discounting the increase in fuel costs by any means, but a lot of times people will only look at the direct expense (of fuel) rather than ways of increasing efficiency. For example, at the Flagstaff house we had an energy audit done right out of the gate that showed some glaring efficiency issues that we expected based on our survey of the house when we bought it. The house is about 2,000 sf, wood frame construction from 1975 on a crawl space. The floor of the house was not insulated, and never had been since it was built. Blow-in insulation in the attic space was a mess from being moved around during several renovations as well as having settled. In fact, it was so bad in some spots it caused ice dams on the roof that resulted in ceiling damage in one part of the house, yet the PO didn’t do anything about it. We took an aggressive approach, which wasn’t cheap, but had insulation installed in the floor/crawl space, the attic insulation straightened out and more blown in, and a blower door test done before and after with any and all gaps or leaks addressed. A new furnace was installed, however, this was a choice on our part due to the age of the existing furnace (28+ years) that was in the mid to upper 90% efficiency range. Windows and doors were already good, so no need to do anything there. While they weren't efficiency considerations, we added air conditioning to the house with the new furnace and a mini-split to an addition that was poorly insulated and conditioned. Total cost? About $8,000 not including the AC and mini-split. We recovered about $1,000 of those costs in rebates from state, local and Federal rebates and tax credits. It will take some years to recover the costs, but the real gain is in the level of comfort that exists in the house. Parts of it were colder than heck, and I can’t even begin to imagine what it was like with no insulation in the floor (we had the insulation work done in September.) The PO installed a wood stove, but we never use it as it’s not necessary. The gas bill last month for heating, water heating (demand water heater) and cooking was $93.00. Coldest month of the year so far, and we keep it at a comfortable 68F during the day while turning it down to 66F at night. Ambients can often get down into the single digits at night in the winter at this location, so having that tight envelope with a solid amount of insulation makes the place very efficient. For those of us who lived through the energy crunch in the 1970s, the one good thing it did was forced people to look more closely at efficiencies in how we use energy as well as alternatives. -D > On Mar 6, 2022, at 1:05 PM, Randy Bennell via Mercedes > wrote: > > Time to look into alternative heat sources. > > >> On 3/6/2022 11:13 AM, Dimitri Seretakis via Mercedes wrote: >> So what about home heating oil? What happens next winter when I have to >> heat my house?
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Heat rises, so it's not as bad as an uninsulated attic. But having a cold floor (and hence, cold feet) can make the room *feel* colder than it is, and you will lose some heat to the principle that heat conducts from warmer to colder objects. On Sun, Mar 6, 2022, at 2:28 PM, Kaleb Striplin via Mercedes wrote: > Neither one of our houses has insulation under the floors and I can't > say I have heard of it being done around here. Might be a good idea though. > > On 3/6/2022 1:26 PM, dan penoff.com via Mercedes wrote: >> Like Floyd said, or batts with paper backing stapled to the joists, although >> the second approach is less desirable because the paper backing can get damp >> and fail, allowing the insulation to fall out. >> >> With 12” joists, we got somewhere in the area of R-30 to R-40 of insulation >> in the floors out of that. I’m not sure what thickness batts they used, I >> would have to go back and look at the work order. They also insulated all >> exposed pipes as well, since the insulation would reduce heat transmission >> from the house and allow the air temperature in the crawl to be closer to >> ambient, potentially allowing any exposed (copper) pipes to freeze. >> >> I’m still stunned that the place never had insulation in the floor/crawl. It >> had to be a frickin’ icebox in the wintertime, or the PO ran the wood stove >> full bore 24/7, which would have been pretty expensive with the amount of >> wood it consumes. >> >> -D >> >>> On Mar 6, 2022, at 2:08 PM, Kaleb Striplin via Mercedes >>> wrote: >>> >>> How do you install insulation in the crawl space? Do they attach it under >>> the sun floor between the joists somehow? >>> >>> Sent from my iPhone >>> On Mar 6, 2022, at 12:26 PM, dan penoff.com via Mercedes wrote: And make sure your home is as efficient as possible, too. I’m not discounting the increase in fuel costs by any means, but a lot of times people will only look at the direct expense (of fuel) rather than ways of increasing efficiency. For example, at the Flagstaff house we had an energy audit done right out of the gate that showed some glaring efficiency issues that we expected based on our survey of the house when we bought it. The house is about 2,000 sf, wood frame construction from 1975 on a crawl space. The floor of the house was not insulated, and never had been since it was built. Blow-in insulation in the attic space was a mess from being moved around during several renovations as well as having settled. In fact, it was so bad in some spots it caused ice dams on the roof that resulted in ceiling damage in one part of the house, yet the PO didn’t do anything about it. We took an aggressive approach, which wasn’t cheap, but had insulation installed in the floor/crawl space, the attic insulation straightened out and more blown in, and a blower door test done before and after with any and all gaps or leaks addressed. A new furnace was installed, however, this was a choice on our part due to the age of the existing furnace (28+ years) that was in the mid to upper 90% efficiency range. Windows and doors were already good, so no need to do anything there. While they weren't efficiency considerations, we added air conditioning to the house with the new furnace and a mini-split to an addition that was poorly insulated and conditioned. Total cost? About $8,000 not including the AC and mini-split. We recovered about $1,000 of those costs in rebates from state, local and Federal rebates and tax credits. It will take some years to recover the costs, but the real gain is in the level of comfort that exists in the house. Parts of it were colder than heck, and I can’t even begin to imagine what it was like with no insulation in the floor (we had the insulation work done in September.) The PO installed a wood stove, but we never use it as it’s not necessary. The gas bill last month for heating, water heating (demand water heater) and cooking was $93.00. Coldest month of the year so far, and we keep it at a comfortable 68F during the day while turning it down to 66F at night. Ambients can often get down into the single digits at night in the winter at this location, so having that tight envelope with a solid amount of insulation makes the place very efficient. For those of us who lived through the energy crunch in the 1970s, the one good thing it did was forced people to look more closely at efficiencies in how we use energy as well as alternatives. -D > On Mar 6, 2022, at 1:05 PM, Randy Bennell via Mercedes > wrote: > > Time to look into alternative heat sources. > > >> On 3/6/2022 11:13 AM, Dimitri Seretakis via Mercedes wrote:
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I thought the paper/moisture barrier always faced the living space? On Sun, Mar 6, 2022, at 2:26 PM, dan penoff.com via Mercedes wrote: > Like Floyd said, or batts with paper backing stapled to the joists, > although the second approach is less desirable because the paper > backing can get damp and fail, allowing the insulation to fall out. > > With 12” joists, we got somewhere in the area of R-30 to R-40 of > insulation in the floors out of that. I’m not sure what thickness batts > they used, I would have to go back and look at the work order. They > also insulated all exposed pipes as well, since the insulation would > reduce heat transmission from the house and allow the air temperature > in the crawl to be closer to ambient, potentially allowing any exposed > (copper) pipes to freeze. > > I’m still stunned that the place never had insulation in the > floor/crawl. It had to be a frickin’ icebox in the wintertime, or the > PO ran the wood stove full bore 24/7, which would have been pretty > expensive with the amount of wood it consumes. > > -D > >> On Mar 6, 2022, at 2:08 PM, Kaleb Striplin via Mercedes >> wrote: >> >> How do you install insulation in the crawl space? Do they attach it under >> the sun floor between the joists somehow? >> >> Sent from my iPhone >> >>> On Mar 6, 2022, at 12:26 PM, dan penoff.com via Mercedes >>> wrote: >>> >>> And make sure your home is as efficient as possible, too. >>> >>> I’m not discounting the increase in fuel costs by any means, but a lot of >>> times people will only look at the direct expense (of fuel) rather than >>> ways of increasing efficiency. >>> >>> For example, at the Flagstaff house we had an energy audit done right out >>> of the gate that showed some glaring efficiency issues that we expected >>> based on our survey of the house when we bought it. The house is about >>> 2,000 sf, wood frame construction from 1975 on a crawl space. The floor of >>> the house was not insulated, and never had been since it was built. Blow-in >>> insulation in the attic space was a mess from being moved around during >>> several renovations as well as having settled. In fact, it was so bad in >>> some spots it caused ice dams on the roof that resulted in ceiling damage >>> in one part of the house, yet the PO didn’t do anything about it. >>> >>> We took an aggressive approach, which wasn’t cheap, but had insulation >>> installed in the floor/crawl space, the attic insulation straightened out >>> and more blown in, and a blower door test done before and after with any >>> and all gaps or leaks addressed. >>> >>> A new furnace was installed, however, this was a choice on our part due to >>> the age of the existing furnace (28+ years) that was in the mid to upper >>> 90% efficiency range. Windows and doors were already good, so no need to do >>> anything there. While they weren't efficiency considerations, we added air >>> conditioning to the house with the new furnace and a mini-split to an >>> addition that was poorly insulated and conditioned. >>> >>> Total cost? About $8,000 not including the AC and mini-split. We recovered >>> about $1,000 of those costs in rebates from state, local and Federal >>> rebates and tax credits. >>> >>> It will take some years to recover the costs, but the real gain is in the >>> level of comfort that exists in the house. Parts of it were colder than >>> heck, and I can’t even begin to imagine what it was like with no insulation >>> in the floor (we had the insulation work done in September.) The PO >>> installed a wood stove, but we never use it as it’s not necessary. >>> >>> The gas bill last month for heating, water heating (demand water heater) >>> and cooking was $93.00. Coldest month of the year so far, and we keep it at >>> a comfortable 68F during the day while turning it down to 66F at night. >>> Ambients can often get down into the single digits at night in the winter >>> at this location, so having that tight envelope with a solid amount of >>> insulation makes the place very efficient. >>> >>> For those of us who lived through the energy crunch in the 1970s, the one >>> good thing it did was forced people to look more closely at efficiencies in >>> how we use energy as well as alternatives. >>> >>> -D >>> >>> >>> On Mar 6, 2022, at 1:05 PM, Randy Bennell via Mercedes wrote: Time to look into alternative heat sources. > On 3/6/2022 11:13 AM, Dimitri Seretakis via Mercedes wrote: > So what about home heating oil? What happens next winter when I have to > heat my house? At this rate it is doubtful that prices will normalize by > then and I go through a full 250 gallon tank of oil during the winter and > that’s keeping the house at 60 degrees on average. If oil hits $8 per > gallon by then which is not a stretch then I will be paying $2000 per > month to heat my house. > > Sent from my iPhone
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Go down to Home Depot, buy some insulation and get some of the day workers to install it for you. I can’t believe there’s no insulation in a crawl space/floor in a home that requires heat in the winter. That’s crazy. -D > On Mar 6, 2022, at 2:28 PM, Kaleb Striplin via Mercedes > wrote: > > Neither one of our houses has insulation under the floors and I can't say I > have heard of it being done around here. Might be a good idea though. > > On 3/6/2022 1:26 PM, dan penoff.com via Mercedes wrote: >> Like Floyd said, or batts with paper backing stapled to the joists, although >> the second approach is less desirable because the paper backing can get damp >> and fail, allowing the insulation to fall out. >> >> With 12” joists, we got somewhere in the area of R-30 to R-40 of insulation >> in the floors out of that. I’m not sure what thickness batts they used, I >> would have to go back and look at the work order. They also insulated all >> exposed pipes as well, since the insulation would reduce heat transmission >> from the house and allow the air temperature in the crawl to be closer to >> ambient, potentially allowing any exposed (copper) pipes to freeze. >> >> I’m still stunned that the place never had insulation in the floor/crawl. It >> had to be a frickin’ icebox in the wintertime, or the PO ran the wood stove >> full bore 24/7, which would have been pretty expensive with the amount of >> wood it consumes. >> >> -D >> >>> On Mar 6, 2022, at 2:08 PM, Kaleb Striplin via Mercedes >>> wrote: >>> >>> How do you install insulation in the crawl space? Do they attach it under >>> the sun floor between the joists somehow? >>> >>> Sent from my iPhone >>> On Mar 6, 2022, at 12:26 PM, dan penoff.com via Mercedes wrote: And make sure your home is as efficient as possible, too. I’m not discounting the increase in fuel costs by any means, but a lot of times people will only look at the direct expense (of fuel) rather than ways of increasing efficiency. For example, at the Flagstaff house we had an energy audit done right out of the gate that showed some glaring efficiency issues that we expected based on our survey of the house when we bought it. The house is about 2,000 sf, wood frame construction from 1975 on a crawl space. The floor of the house was not insulated, and never had been since it was built. Blow-in insulation in the attic space was a mess from being moved around during several renovations as well as having settled. In fact, it was so bad in some spots it caused ice dams on the roof that resulted in ceiling damage in one part of the house, yet the PO didn’t do anything about it. We took an aggressive approach, which wasn’t cheap, but had insulation installed in the floor/crawl space, the attic insulation straightened out and more blown in, and a blower door test done before and after with any and all gaps or leaks addressed. A new furnace was installed, however, this was a choice on our part due to the age of the existing furnace (28+ years) that was in the mid to upper 90% efficiency range. Windows and doors were already good, so no need to do anything there. While they weren't efficiency considerations, we added air conditioning to the house with the new furnace and a mini-split to an addition that was poorly insulated and conditioned. Total cost? About $8,000 not including the AC and mini-split. We recovered about $1,000 of those costs in rebates from state, local and Federal rebates and tax credits. It will take some years to recover the costs, but the real gain is in the level of comfort that exists in the house. Parts of it were colder than heck, and I can’t even begin to imagine what it was like with no insulation in the floor (we had the insulation work done in September.) The PO installed a wood stove, but we never use it as it’s not necessary. The gas bill last month for heating, water heating (demand water heater) and cooking was $93.00. Coldest month of the year so far, and we keep it at a comfortable 68F during the day while turning it down to 66F at night. Ambients can often get down into the single digits at night in the winter at this location, so having that tight envelope with a solid amount of insulation makes the place very efficient. For those of us who lived through the energy crunch in the 1970s, the one good thing it did was forced people to look more closely at efficiencies in how we use energy as well as alternatives. -D > On Mar 6, 2022, at 1:05 PM, Randy Bennell via Mercedes > wrote: > > Time to look into alternative heat sources. > > >> On 3/6/2022 11:13 AM, Dimitri Seretakis via Mercedes
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Neither one of our houses has insulation under the floors and I can't say I have heard of it being done around here. Might be a good idea though. On 3/6/2022 1:26 PM, dan penoff.com via Mercedes wrote: Like Floyd said, or batts with paper backing stapled to the joists, although the second approach is less desirable because the paper backing can get damp and fail, allowing the insulation to fall out. With 12” joists, we got somewhere in the area of R-30 to R-40 of insulation in the floors out of that. I’m not sure what thickness batts they used, I would have to go back and look at the work order. They also insulated all exposed pipes as well, since the insulation would reduce heat transmission from the house and allow the air temperature in the crawl to be closer to ambient, potentially allowing any exposed (copper) pipes to freeze. I’m still stunned that the place never had insulation in the floor/crawl. It had to be a frickin’ icebox in the wintertime, or the PO ran the wood stove full bore 24/7, which would have been pretty expensive with the amount of wood it consumes. -D On Mar 6, 2022, at 2:08 PM, Kaleb Striplin via Mercedes wrote: How do you install insulation in the crawl space? Do they attach it under the sun floor between the joists somehow? Sent from my iPhone On Mar 6, 2022, at 12:26 PM, dan penoff.com via Mercedes wrote: And make sure your home is as efficient as possible, too. I’m not discounting the increase in fuel costs by any means, but a lot of times people will only look at the direct expense (of fuel) rather than ways of increasing efficiency. For example, at the Flagstaff house we had an energy audit done right out of the gate that showed some glaring efficiency issues that we expected based on our survey of the house when we bought it. The house is about 2,000 sf, wood frame construction from 1975 on a crawl space. The floor of the house was not insulated, and never had been since it was built. Blow-in insulation in the attic space was a mess from being moved around during several renovations as well as having settled. In fact, it was so bad in some spots it caused ice dams on the roof that resulted in ceiling damage in one part of the house, yet the PO didn’t do anything about it. We took an aggressive approach, which wasn’t cheap, but had insulation installed in the floor/crawl space, the attic insulation straightened out and more blown in, and a blower door test done before and after with any and all gaps or leaks addressed. A new furnace was installed, however, this was a choice on our part due to the age of the existing furnace (28+ years) that was in the mid to upper 90% efficiency range. Windows and doors were already good, so no need to do anything there. While they weren't efficiency considerations, we added air conditioning to the house with the new furnace and a mini-split to an addition that was poorly insulated and conditioned. Total cost? About $8,000 not including the AC and mini-split. We recovered about $1,000 of those costs in rebates from state, local and Federal rebates and tax credits. It will take some years to recover the costs, but the real gain is in the level of comfort that exists in the house. Parts of it were colder than heck, and I can’t even begin to imagine what it was like with no insulation in the floor (we had the insulation work done in September.) The PO installed a wood stove, but we never use it as it’s not necessary. The gas bill last month for heating, water heating (demand water heater) and cooking was $93.00. Coldest month of the year so far, and we keep it at a comfortable 68F during the day while turning it down to 66F at night. Ambients can often get down into the single digits at night in the winter at this location, so having that tight envelope with a solid amount of insulation makes the place very efficient. For those of us who lived through the energy crunch in the 1970s, the one good thing it did was forced people to look more closely at efficiencies in how we use energy as well as alternatives. -D On Mar 6, 2022, at 1:05 PM, Randy Bennell via Mercedes wrote: Time to look into alternative heat sources. On 3/6/2022 11:13 AM, Dimitri Seretakis via Mercedes wrote: So what about home heating oil? What happens next winter when I have to heat my house? At this rate it is doubtful that prices will normalize by then and I go through a full 250 gallon tank of oil during the winter and that’s keeping the house at 60 degrees on average. If oil hits $8 per gallon by then which is not a stretch then I will be paying $2000 per month to heat my house. Sent from my iPhone On Mar 6, 2022, at 10:50 AM, Kaleb Striplin via Mercedes wrote: If I am not mistaken, It never got that night the last time. Sent from my iPhone On Mar 6, 2022, at 9:10 AM, Rick Knoble via Mercedes wrote: Did Karl want to start a pool on LA gas prices? $7 a gallon here. I checked and
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Like Floyd said, or batts with paper backing stapled to the joists, although the second approach is less desirable because the paper backing can get damp and fail, allowing the insulation to fall out. With 12” joists, we got somewhere in the area of R-30 to R-40 of insulation in the floors out of that. I’m not sure what thickness batts they used, I would have to go back and look at the work order. They also insulated all exposed pipes as well, since the insulation would reduce heat transmission from the house and allow the air temperature in the crawl to be closer to ambient, potentially allowing any exposed (copper) pipes to freeze. I’m still stunned that the place never had insulation in the floor/crawl. It had to be a frickin’ icebox in the wintertime, or the PO ran the wood stove full bore 24/7, which would have been pretty expensive with the amount of wood it consumes. -D > On Mar 6, 2022, at 2:08 PM, Kaleb Striplin via Mercedes > wrote: > > How do you install insulation in the crawl space? Do they attach it under the > sun floor between the joists somehow? > > Sent from my iPhone > >> On Mar 6, 2022, at 12:26 PM, dan penoff.com via Mercedes >> wrote: >> >> And make sure your home is as efficient as possible, too. >> >> I’m not discounting the increase in fuel costs by any means, but a lot of >> times people will only look at the direct expense (of fuel) rather than ways >> of increasing efficiency. >> >> For example, at the Flagstaff house we had an energy audit done right out of >> the gate that showed some glaring efficiency issues that we expected based >> on our survey of the house when we bought it. The house is about 2,000 sf, >> wood frame construction from 1975 on a crawl space. The floor of the house >> was not insulated, and never had been since it was built. Blow-in insulation >> in the attic space was a mess from being moved around during several >> renovations as well as having settled. In fact, it was so bad in some spots >> it caused ice dams on the roof that resulted in ceiling damage in one part >> of the house, yet the PO didn’t do anything about it. >> >> We took an aggressive approach, which wasn’t cheap, but had insulation >> installed in the floor/crawl space, the attic insulation straightened out >> and more blown in, and a blower door test done before and after with any and >> all gaps or leaks addressed. >> >> A new furnace was installed, however, this was a choice on our part due to >> the age of the existing furnace (28+ years) that was in the mid to upper 90% >> efficiency range. Windows and doors were already good, so no need to do >> anything there. While they weren't efficiency considerations, we added air >> conditioning to the house with the new furnace and a mini-split to an >> addition that was poorly insulated and conditioned. >> >> Total cost? About $8,000 not including the AC and mini-split. We recovered >> about $1,000 of those costs in rebates from state, local and Federal rebates >> and tax credits. >> >> It will take some years to recover the costs, but the real gain is in the >> level of comfort that exists in the house. Parts of it were colder than >> heck, and I can’t even begin to imagine what it was like with no insulation >> in the floor (we had the insulation work done in September.) The PO >> installed a wood stove, but we never use it as it’s not necessary. >> >> The gas bill last month for heating, water heating (demand water heater) and >> cooking was $93.00. Coldest month of the year so far, and we keep it at a >> comfortable 68F during the day while turning it down to 66F at night. >> Ambients can often get down into the single digits at night in the winter at >> this location, so having that tight envelope with a solid amount of >> insulation makes the place very efficient. >> >> For those of us who lived through the energy crunch in the 1970s, the one >> good thing it did was forced people to look more closely at efficiencies in >> how we use energy as well as alternatives. >> >> -D >> >> >> >>> On Mar 6, 2022, at 1:05 PM, Randy Bennell via Mercedes >>> wrote: >>> >>> Time to look into alternative heat sources. >>> >>> On 3/6/2022 11:13 AM, Dimitri Seretakis via Mercedes wrote: So what about home heating oil? What happens next winter when I have to heat my house? At this rate it is doubtful that prices will normalize by then and I go through a full 250 gallon tank of oil during the winter and that’s keeping the house at 60 degrees on average. If oil hits $8 per gallon by then which is not a stretch then I will be paying $2000 per month to heat my house. Sent from my iPhone > On Mar 6, 2022, at 10:50 AM, Kaleb Striplin via Mercedes > wrote: > > If I am not mistaken, It never got that night the last time. > > Sent from my iPhone > >> On Mar 6, 2022, at 9:10 AM, Rick Knoble via
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Batts in joist spaces with these little wire things that stick underneath the batts between the joists every 2ft or so --FT Sent from iFōn > On Mar 6, 2022, at 2:08 PM, Kaleb Striplin via Mercedes > wrote: > > How do you install insulation in the crawl space? Do they attach it under > the sun floor between the joists somehow? > > Sent from my iPhone > >> On Mar 6, 2022, at 12:26 PM, dan penoff.com via Mercedes >> wrote: >> >> And make sure your home is as efficient as possible, too. >> >> I’m not discounting the increase in fuel costs by any means, but a lot of >> times people will only look at the direct expense (of fuel) rather than ways >> of increasing efficiency. >> >> For example, at the Flagstaff house we had an energy audit done right out of >> the gate that showed some glaring efficiency issues that we expected based >> on our survey of the house when we bought it. The house is about 2,000 sf, >> wood frame construction from 1975 on a crawl space. The floor of the house >> was not insulated, and never had been since it was built. Blow-in insulation >> in the attic space was a mess from being moved around during several >> renovations as well as having settled. In fact, it was so bad in some spots >> it caused ice dams on the roof that resulted in ceiling damage in one part >> of the house, yet the PO didn’t do anything about it. >> >> We took an aggressive approach, which wasn’t cheap, but had insulation >> installed in the floor/crawl space, the attic insulation straightened out >> and more blown in, and a blower door test done before and after with any and >> all gaps or leaks addressed. >> >> A new furnace was installed, however, this was a choice on our part due to >> the age of the existing furnace (28+ years) that was in the mid to upper 90% >> efficiency range. Windows and doors were already good, so no need to do >> anything there. While they weren't efficiency considerations, we added air >> conditioning to the house with the new furnace and a mini-split to an >> addition that was poorly insulated and conditioned. >> >> Total cost? About $8,000 not including the AC and mini-split. We recovered >> about $1,000 of those costs in rebates from state, local and Federal rebates >> and tax credits. >> >> It will take some years to recover the costs, but the real gain is in the >> level of comfort that exists in the house. Parts of it were colder than >> heck, and I can’t even begin to imagine what it was like with no insulation >> in the floor (we had the insulation work done in September.) The PO >> installed a wood stove, but we never use it as it’s not necessary. >> >> The gas bill last month for heating, water heating (demand water heater) and >> cooking was $93.00. Coldest month of the year so far, and we keep it at a >> comfortable 68F during the day while turning it down to 66F at night. >> Ambients can often get down into the single digits at night in the winter at >> this location, so having that tight envelope with a solid amount of >> insulation makes the place very efficient. >> >> For those of us who lived through the energy crunch in the 1970s, the one >> good thing it did was forced people to look more closely at efficiencies in >> how we use energy as well as alternatives. >> >> -D >> >> >> On Mar 6, 2022, at 1:05 PM, Randy Bennell via Mercedes wrote: >>> >>> Time to look into alternative heat sources. >>> >>> On 3/6/2022 11:13 AM, Dimitri Seretakis via Mercedes wrote: So what about home heating oil? What happens next winter when I have to heat my house? At this rate it is doubtful that prices will normalize by then and I go through a full 250 gallon tank of oil during the winter and that’s keeping the house at 60 degrees on average. If oil hits $8 per gallon by then which is not a stretch then I will be paying $2000 per month to heat my house. Sent from my iPhone > On Mar 6, 2022, at 10:50 AM, Kaleb Striplin via Mercedes > wrote: > > If I am not mistaken, It never got that night the last time. > > Sent from my iPhone > >> On Mar 6, 2022, at 9:10 AM, Rick Knoble via Mercedes >> wrote: >> >> Did Karl want to start a pool on LA gas prices? >> $7 a gallon here. I checked and GasBuddy concurs. >> >> This will not end well. >> >> >> Rick > >> ___ >> http://www.okiebenz.com >> >> To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ >> >> To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: >> http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com >> > ___ > http://www.okiebenz.com > > To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ > > To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: >
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How do you install insulation in the crawl space? Do they attach it under the sun floor between the joists somehow? Sent from my iPhone > On Mar 6, 2022, at 12:26 PM, dan penoff.com via Mercedes > wrote: > > And make sure your home is as efficient as possible, too. > > I’m not discounting the increase in fuel costs by any means, but a lot of > times people will only look at the direct expense (of fuel) rather than ways > of increasing efficiency. > > For example, at the Flagstaff house we had an energy audit done right out of > the gate that showed some glaring efficiency issues that we expected based on > our survey of the house when we bought it. The house is about 2,000 sf, wood > frame construction from 1975 on a crawl space. The floor of the house was not > insulated, and never had been since it was built. Blow-in insulation in the > attic space was a mess from being moved around during several renovations as > well as having settled. In fact, it was so bad in some spots it caused ice > dams on the roof that resulted in ceiling damage in one part of the house, > yet the PO didn’t do anything about it. > > We took an aggressive approach, which wasn’t cheap, but had insulation > installed in the floor/crawl space, the attic insulation straightened out and > more blown in, and a blower door test done before and after with any and all > gaps or leaks addressed. > > A new furnace was installed, however, this was a choice on our part due to > the age of the existing furnace (28+ years) that was in the mid to upper 90% > efficiency range. Windows and doors were already good, so no need to do > anything there. While they weren't efficiency considerations, we added air > conditioning to the house with the new furnace and a mini-split to an > addition that was poorly insulated and conditioned. > > Total cost? About $8,000 not including the AC and mini-split. We recovered > about $1,000 of those costs in rebates from state, local and Federal rebates > and tax credits. > > It will take some years to recover the costs, but the real gain is in the > level of comfort that exists in the house. Parts of it were colder than heck, > and I can’t even begin to imagine what it was like with no insulation in the > floor (we had the insulation work done in September.) The PO installed a wood > stove, but we never use it as it’s not necessary. > > The gas bill last month for heating, water heating (demand water heater) and > cooking was $93.00. Coldest month of the year so far, and we keep it at a > comfortable 68F during the day while turning it down to 66F at night. > Ambients can often get down into the single digits at night in the winter at > this location, so having that tight envelope with a solid amount of > insulation makes the place very efficient. > > For those of us who lived through the energy crunch in the 1970s, the one > good thing it did was forced people to look more closely at efficiencies in > how we use energy as well as alternatives. > > -D > > > >> On Mar 6, 2022, at 1:05 PM, Randy Bennell via Mercedes >> wrote: >> >> Time to look into alternative heat sources. >> >> >>> On 3/6/2022 11:13 AM, Dimitri Seretakis via Mercedes wrote: >>> So what about home heating oil? What happens next winter when I have to >>> heat my house? At this rate it is doubtful that prices will normalize by >>> then and I go through a full 250 gallon tank of oil during the winter and >>> that’s keeping the house at 60 degrees on average. If oil hits $8 per >>> gallon by then which is not a stretch then I will be paying $2000 per month >>> to heat my house. >>> >>> Sent from my iPhone >>> On Mar 6, 2022, at 10:50 AM, Kaleb Striplin via Mercedes wrote: If I am not mistaken, It never got that night the last time. Sent from my iPhone > On Mar 6, 2022, at 9:10 AM, Rick Knoble via Mercedes > wrote: > > Did Karl want to start a pool on LA gas prices? > $7 a gallon here. I checked and GasBuddy concurs. > > This will not end well. > > > Rick > ___ > http://www.okiebenz.com > > To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ > > To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: > http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com > ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com >>> >>> ___ >>> http://www.okiebenz.com >>> >>> To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ >>> >>> To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: >>> http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com >>> >> >>
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> I go through a full 250 gallon tank of oil during the winter... If oil hits > $8 per gallon... I will be paying $2000 per month... Dimensional analysis calls BS. Closer to $2000 per _winter_, not month. Or did you leave out something? -- Jim ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
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And make sure your home is as efficient as possible, too. I’m not discounting the increase in fuel costs by any means, but a lot of times people will only look at the direct expense (of fuel) rather than ways of increasing efficiency. For example, at the Flagstaff house we had an energy audit done right out of the gate that showed some glaring efficiency issues that we expected based on our survey of the house when we bought it. The house is about 2,000 sf, wood frame construction from 1975 on a crawl space. The floor of the house was not insulated, and never had been since it was built. Blow-in insulation in the attic space was a mess from being moved around during several renovations as well as having settled. In fact, it was so bad in some spots it caused ice dams on the roof that resulted in ceiling damage in one part of the house, yet the PO didn’t do anything about it. We took an aggressive approach, which wasn’t cheap, but had insulation installed in the floor/crawl space, the attic insulation straightened out and more blown in, and a blower door test done before and after with any and all gaps or leaks addressed. A new furnace was installed, however, this was a choice on our part due to the age of the existing furnace (28+ years) that was in the mid to upper 90% efficiency range. Windows and doors were already good, so no need to do anything there. While they weren't efficiency considerations, we added air conditioning to the house with the new furnace and a mini-split to an addition that was poorly insulated and conditioned. Total cost? About $8,000 not including the AC and mini-split. We recovered about $1,000 of those costs in rebates from state, local and Federal rebates and tax credits. It will take some years to recover the costs, but the real gain is in the level of comfort that exists in the house. Parts of it were colder than heck, and I can’t even begin to imagine what it was like with no insulation in the floor (we had the insulation work done in September.) The PO installed a wood stove, but we never use it as it’s not necessary. The gas bill last month for heating, water heating (demand water heater) and cooking was $93.00. Coldest month of the year so far, and we keep it at a comfortable 68F during the day while turning it down to 66F at night. Ambients can often get down into the single digits at night in the winter at this location, so having that tight envelope with a solid amount of insulation makes the place very efficient. For those of us who lived through the energy crunch in the 1970s, the one good thing it did was forced people to look more closely at efficiencies in how we use energy as well as alternatives. -D > On Mar 6, 2022, at 1:05 PM, Randy Bennell via Mercedes > wrote: > > Time to look into alternative heat sources. > > > On 3/6/2022 11:13 AM, Dimitri Seretakis via Mercedes wrote: >> So what about home heating oil? What happens next winter when I have to heat >> my house? At this rate it is doubtful that prices will normalize by then and >> I go through a full 250 gallon tank of oil during the winter and that’s >> keeping the house at 60 degrees on average. If oil hits $8 per gallon by >> then which is not a stretch then I will be paying $2000 per month to heat my >> house. >> >> Sent from my iPhone >> >>> On Mar 6, 2022, at 10:50 AM, Kaleb Striplin via Mercedes >>> wrote: >>> >>> If I am not mistaken, It never got that night the last time. >>> >>> Sent from my iPhone >>> On Mar 6, 2022, at 9:10 AM, Rick Knoble via Mercedes wrote: Did Karl want to start a pool on LA gas prices? $7 a gallon here. I checked and GasBuddy concurs. This will not end well. Rick >>> ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com >>> ___ >>> http://www.okiebenz.com >>> >>> To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ >>> >>> To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: >>> http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com >>> >> >> ___ >> http://www.okiebenz.com >> >> To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ >> >> To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: >> http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com >> > > ___ > http://www.okiebenz.com > > To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ > > To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: > http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com > ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or
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Time to look into alternative heat sources. On 3/6/2022 11:13 AM, Dimitri Seretakis via Mercedes wrote: So what about home heating oil? What happens next winter when I have to heat my house? At this rate it is doubtful that prices will normalize by then and I go through a full 250 gallon tank of oil during the winter and that’s keeping the house at 60 degrees on average. If oil hits $8 per gallon by then which is not a stretch then I will be paying $2000 per month to heat my house. Sent from my iPhone On Mar 6, 2022, at 10:50 AM, Kaleb Striplin via Mercedes wrote: If I am not mistaken, It never got that night the last time. Sent from my iPhone On Mar 6, 2022, at 9:10 AM, Rick Knoble via Mercedes wrote: Did Karl want to start a pool on LA gas prices? $7 a gallon here. I checked and GasBuddy concurs. This will not end well. Rick ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
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> If oil hits $8 per gallon by then which is not a stretch then I will be > paying $2000 per month to heat my house. Yep. Let's say a semi gets 6 mpg. That semi travelling from a state that grows food to a state that consumes food goes 1,200 miles. The fuel cost for that trip went from $400 to $1,600 when fuel hits eight bucks a gallon, coming from $2 a gallon. Are we seeing an incoming problem yet? The problem with mathmatics (and hard facts) is that "it is what it is". Math doesn't lie, emotion doesn't change it. Mitch's customers are now coming to that realization now that it's tax time. Rick ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
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I haven't even received my refund from last year yet. What is going on at the IRS these days? Did COVID create that much of a backlog? On Sun, Mar 6, 2022, at 8:32 AM, mitch--- via Mercedes wrote: > On 2022-03-05 00:46, Rick Knoble via Mercedes wrote: >>> Bodes poorly for values of used V8s and SUVs? >> >> The increasing cost of food may bring the used car market to heel. >> That and the child tax credit that has been dispensed on a monthly >> basis, as opposed to getting a large tax return in March or April. One >> can hope. I'd like to pick up a Benz bargain or two from somewhere >> other than the rust belt. >> > > I'm getting people who claim they withheld 'the maximum' being shocked > to find that they owe $2k this year. The ACTC didn't make THAT much > difference, we're talking about raising a $2k taxtime credit to $3600 > with $1800 left for now (under 6) or $3k with $1500 left for now (6-17). > So I'd expect somebody with a couple of older kids to owe an extra $1k, > not $2-3k, and I'm wasting too much time with them demanding I tell them > why their employers didn't withhold enough. > > ___ > http://www.okiebenz.com > > To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ > > To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: > http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
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Yep. This will be a hard pill to swallow. Wait till the already out of control grocery prices starts shooting up due to out of control fuel prices. Sent from my iPhone > On Mar 6, 2022, at 11:14 AM, Dimitri Seretakis wrote: > > So what about home heating oil? What happens next winter when I have to heat > my house? At this rate it is doubtful that prices will normalize by then and > I go through a full 250 gallon tank of oil during the winter and that’s > keeping the house at 60 degrees on average. If oil hits $8 per gallon by then > which is not a stretch then I will be paying $2000 per month to heat my house. > > Sent from my iPhone > >> On Mar 6, 2022, at 10:50 AM, Kaleb Striplin via Mercedes >> wrote: >> >> If I am not mistaken, It never got that night the last time. >> >> Sent from my iPhone >> On Mar 6, 2022, at 9:10 AM, Rick Knoble via Mercedes wrote: >>> >>> Did Karl want to start a pool on LA gas prices? >>> $7 a gallon here. I checked and GasBuddy concurs. >>> >>> This will not end well. >>> >>> >>> Rick >> >>> ___ >>> http://www.okiebenz.com >>> >>> To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ >>> >>> To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: >>> http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com >>> >> ___ >> http://www.okiebenz.com >> >> To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ >> >> To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: >> http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com >> > ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
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So what about home heating oil? What happens next winter when I have to heat my house? At this rate it is doubtful that prices will normalize by then and I go through a full 250 gallon tank of oil during the winter and that’s keeping the house at 60 degrees on average. If oil hits $8 per gallon by then which is not a stretch then I will be paying $2000 per month to heat my house. Sent from my iPhone > On Mar 6, 2022, at 10:50 AM, Kaleb Striplin via Mercedes > wrote: > > If I am not mistaken, It never got that night the last time. > > Sent from my iPhone > >> On Mar 6, 2022, at 9:10 AM, Rick Knoble via Mercedes >> wrote: >> >> Did Karl want to start a pool on LA gas prices? >> $7 a gallon here. I checked and GasBuddy concurs. >> >> This will not end well. >> >> >> Rick > >> ___ >> http://www.okiebenz.com >> >> To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ >> >> To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: >> http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com >> > ___ > http://www.okiebenz.com > > To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ > > To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: > http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com > ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
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On 2022-03-05 00:46, Rick Knoble via Mercedes wrote: Bodes poorly for values of used V8s and SUVs? The increasing cost of food may bring the used car market to heel. That and the child tax credit that has been dispensed on a monthly basis, as opposed to getting a large tax return in March or April. One can hope. I'd like to pick up a Benz bargain or two from somewhere other than the rust belt. I'm getting people who claim they withheld 'the maximum' being shocked to find that they owe $2k this year. The ACTC didn't make THAT much difference, we're talking about raising a $2k taxtime credit to $3600 with $1800 left for now (under 6) or $3k with $1500 left for now (6-17). So I'd expect somebody with a couple of older kids to owe an extra $1k, not $2-3k, and I'm wasting too much time with them demanding I tell them why their employers didn't withhold enough. ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
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https://linksharing.samsungcloud.com/5KlLBklKTSZv Pushing 7 On Sat, Mar 5, 2022, 4:30 PM Kaleb Striplin via Mercedes < mercedes@okiebenz.com> wrote: > When I was pumping that $4.29 diesel earlier today somebody hung a sign in > the pump indicating their thoughts on who or what was responsible. > > Sent from my iPhone > > > On Mar 5, 2022, at 6:26 PM, dan penoff.com via Mercedes < > mercedes@okiebenz.com> wrote: > > > > No, as long as nothing partisan comes into the conversation. In fact, > I’m really pleased at what a good discussion this has been. It’s been > thoughtful and reflective and has addressed the issue well from a > functional standpoint. > > > > Continue on. > > > > -D/ListMom > > > > Sent from my iPad > > > >> On Mar 5, 2022, at 3:52 PM, Dwight Giles via Mercedes < > mercedes@okiebenz.com> wrote: > >> > >> is this considered political by the moderator? > >> > >>> On Sat, Mar 5, 2022, 3:35 PM Scott Ritchey via Mercedes < > >>> mercedes@okiebenz.com> wrote: > >>> > >>> Price at the pump is the canary in the coal mine. Everything made > using > >>> energy or hydrocarbons will cost more, providing it is even > available. We > >>> have been well and truly screwed by environmentalist dilatants and the > ESG > >>> crowd. The Ukrainians got screwed infinitely worse. It doesn't stop > >>> there; expect global food shortages in 2022 and beyond except in the > US and > >>> a few other self-sufficient places. > >>> > >>> -Original Message- > >>> From: Mercedes On Behalf Of Karl Wittnebel via Mercedes > >>> Sent: Saturday, March 5, 2022 3:02 PM > >>> To: Mercedes Discussion List > >>> Cc: Karl Wittnebel > >>> Subject: Re: [MBZ] Gas prices and when will they affect used car prices > >>> > >>> I am counting on 8 before it's all over. > >>> > >>> On Sat, Mar 5, 2022, 10:37 AM Rick Knoble via Mercedes < > >>> mercedes@okiebenz.com> wrote: > >>> > >>>> Closer to six bucks soon. > >>>> > >>>> > >>>> Rick > >>>> > >>>> From: mercedes@okiebenz.com > >>>> Sent: March 5, 2022 11:44 AM > >>>> To: mercedes@okiebenz.com > >>>> Reply-to: mercedes@okiebenz.com > >>>> Cc: ka...@striplin.net > >>>> Subject: Re: [MBZ] Gas prices and when will they affect used car > >>>> prices > >>>> > >>>> Just passed the next station of the local major chain and it was > $4.92. > >>>> Since this chain controls all fuel prices in the area it will soon be > >>>> $4.92 everywhere. > >>>> > >>>> Sent from my iPhone > >>>> > >>>>> On Mar 5, 2022, at 11:24 AM, Kaleb Striplin > >>> wrote: > >>>>> > >>>>> Just got back to Tulsa. Was something like $3.69 and just had to > >>>>> fill > >>>> up at $4.29. Wtf? > >>>>> > >>>>> Sent from my iPhone > >>>>> > >>>>>> On Mar 5, 2022, at 9:55 AM, Kaleb Striplin > >>> wrote: > >>>>>> > >>>>>> It was 4.59 just outside of Enid this morning > >>>>>> > >>>>>> Sent from my iPhone > >>>>>> > >>>>>>>> On Mar 5, 2022, at 9:44 AM, OK Don via Mercedes < > >>>> mercedes@okiebenz.com> wrote: > >>>>>>> > >>>>>>> I saw Diesel at $3.80 in town, then at $4.10 by the Interstate > >>>> yesterday. > >>>>>>> > >>>>>>>> On Fri, Mar 4, 2022 at 10:20 PM Allan Streib via Mercedes < > >>>>>>>> mercedes@okiebenz.com> wrote: > >>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>> Diesel is $4.59! > >>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>>> On Fri, Mar 4, 2022, at 11:18 PM, Andrew Strasfogel wrote: > >>>>>>>>> Bodes well for us diesel lovers. > >>>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>>> On Fri, Mar 4, 2022, 11:09 PM Allan Streib via Mercedes < > >>>>>>>> mercedes@okiebenz.com> wrote: > >>>>>>>>>> Four dollars a gallon here tonight for 87.
Re: [MBZ] Gas prices
Was stunned to pay $3.799 on Tuesday, then remembered Let's Go Putin. Today it went up to 4.099, for Regular. 4.79 Diesel. I never paid over $4 for 87 before. Paid as high as 4.299 for Premium 10 years ago, and think I paid $4.55 or more in NY in March of 2012. Yesterday crude was up something like $7 in one day, to $115/42 gallons. Was $67 just before New Year's, when I paid 2.83 for 87 Octane. ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
[MBZ] Gas prices
This gives you prices https://www.gasbuddy.com/ ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] Gas prices and when will they affect used car prices
When I was pumping that $4.29 diesel earlier today somebody hung a sign in the pump indicating their thoughts on who or what was responsible. Sent from my iPhone > On Mar 5, 2022, at 6:26 PM, dan penoff.com via Mercedes > wrote: > > No, as long as nothing partisan comes into the conversation. In fact, I’m > really pleased at what a good discussion this has been. It’s been thoughtful > and reflective and has addressed the issue well from a functional standpoint. > > Continue on. > > -D/ListMom > > Sent from my iPad > >> On Mar 5, 2022, at 3:52 PM, Dwight Giles via Mercedes >> wrote: >> >> is this considered political by the moderator? >> >>> On Sat, Mar 5, 2022, 3:35 PM Scott Ritchey via Mercedes < >>> mercedes@okiebenz.com> wrote: >>> >>> Price at the pump is the canary in the coal mine. Everything made using >>> energy or hydrocarbons will cost more, providing it is even available. We >>> have been well and truly screwed by environmentalist dilatants and the ESG >>> crowd. The Ukrainians got screwed infinitely worse. It doesn't stop >>> there; expect global food shortages in 2022 and beyond except in the US and >>> a few other self-sufficient places. >>> >>> -Original Message- >>> From: Mercedes On Behalf Of Karl Wittnebel via Mercedes >>> Sent: Saturday, March 5, 2022 3:02 PM >>> To: Mercedes Discussion List >>> Cc: Karl Wittnebel >>> Subject: Re: [MBZ] Gas prices and when will they affect used car prices >>> >>> I am counting on 8 before it's all over. >>> >>> On Sat, Mar 5, 2022, 10:37 AM Rick Knoble via Mercedes < >>> mercedes@okiebenz.com> wrote: >>> >>>> Closer to six bucks soon. >>>> >>>> >>>> Rick >>>> >>>> From: mercedes@okiebenz.com >>>> Sent: March 5, 2022 11:44 AM >>>> To: mercedes@okiebenz.com >>>> Reply-to: mercedes@okiebenz.com >>>> Cc: ka...@striplin.net >>>> Subject: Re: [MBZ] Gas prices and when will they affect used car >>>> prices >>>> >>>> Just passed the next station of the local major chain and it was $4.92. >>>> Since this chain controls all fuel prices in the area it will soon be >>>> $4.92 everywhere. >>>> >>>> Sent from my iPhone >>>> >>>>> On Mar 5, 2022, at 11:24 AM, Kaleb Striplin >>> wrote: >>>>> >>>>> Just got back to Tulsa. Was something like $3.69 and just had to >>>>> fill >>>> up at $4.29. Wtf? >>>>> >>>>> Sent from my iPhone >>>>> >>>>>> On Mar 5, 2022, at 9:55 AM, Kaleb Striplin >>> wrote: >>>>>> >>>>>> It was 4.59 just outside of Enid this morning >>>>>> >>>>>> Sent from my iPhone >>>>>> >>>>>>>> On Mar 5, 2022, at 9:44 AM, OK Don via Mercedes < >>>> mercedes@okiebenz.com> wrote: >>>>>>> >>>>>>> I saw Diesel at $3.80 in town, then at $4.10 by the Interstate >>>> yesterday. >>>>>>> >>>>>>>> On Fri, Mar 4, 2022 at 10:20 PM Allan Streib via Mercedes < >>>>>>>> mercedes@okiebenz.com> wrote: >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> Diesel is $4.59! >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> On Fri, Mar 4, 2022, at 11:18 PM, Andrew Strasfogel wrote: >>>>>>>>> Bodes well for us diesel lovers. >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> On Fri, Mar 4, 2022, 11:09 PM Allan Streib via Mercedes < >>>>>>>> mercedes@okiebenz.com> wrote: >>>>>>>>>> Four dollars a gallon here tonight for 87. >>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> Just keeps going up. $0.30 in the past two days alone >>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> Bodes poorly for values of used V8s and SUVs? >>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> ___ >>>>>>>>>> http://www.okiebenz.com >>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ >>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>
Re: [MBZ] Gas prices and when will they affect used car prices
No, as long as nothing partisan comes into the conversation. In fact, I’m really pleased at what a good discussion this has been. It’s been thoughtful and reflective and has addressed the issue well from a functional standpoint. Continue on. -D/ListMom Sent from my iPad > On Mar 5, 2022, at 3:52 PM, Dwight Giles via Mercedes > wrote: > > is this considered political by the moderator? > >> On Sat, Mar 5, 2022, 3:35 PM Scott Ritchey via Mercedes < >> mercedes@okiebenz.com> wrote: >> >> Price at the pump is the canary in the coal mine. Everything made using >> energy or hydrocarbons will cost more, providing it is even available. We >> have been well and truly screwed by environmentalist dilatants and the ESG >> crowd. The Ukrainians got screwed infinitely worse. It doesn't stop >> there; expect global food shortages in 2022 and beyond except in the US and >> a few other self-sufficient places. >> >> -Original Message- >> From: Mercedes On Behalf Of Karl Wittnebel via Mercedes >> Sent: Saturday, March 5, 2022 3:02 PM >> To: Mercedes Discussion List >> Cc: Karl Wittnebel >> Subject: Re: [MBZ] Gas prices and when will they affect used car prices >> >> I am counting on 8 before it's all over. >> >> On Sat, Mar 5, 2022, 10:37 AM Rick Knoble via Mercedes < >> mercedes@okiebenz.com> wrote: >> >>> Closer to six bucks soon. >>> >>> >>> Rick >>> >>> From: mercedes@okiebenz.com >>> Sent: March 5, 2022 11:44 AM >>> To: mercedes@okiebenz.com >>> Reply-to: mercedes@okiebenz.com >>> Cc: ka...@striplin.net >>> Subject: Re: [MBZ] Gas prices and when will they affect used car >>> prices >>> >>> Just passed the next station of the local major chain and it was $4.92. >>> Since this chain controls all fuel prices in the area it will soon be >>> $4.92 everywhere. >>> >>> Sent from my iPhone >>> >>>> On Mar 5, 2022, at 11:24 AM, Kaleb Striplin >> wrote: >>>> >>>> Just got back to Tulsa. Was something like $3.69 and just had to >>>> fill >>> up at $4.29. Wtf? >>>> >>>> Sent from my iPhone >>>> >>>>> On Mar 5, 2022, at 9:55 AM, Kaleb Striplin >> wrote: >>>>> >>>>> It was 4.59 just outside of Enid this morning >>>>> >>>>> Sent from my iPhone >>>>> >>>>>>> On Mar 5, 2022, at 9:44 AM, OK Don via Mercedes < >>> mercedes@okiebenz.com> wrote: >>>>>> >>>>>> I saw Diesel at $3.80 in town, then at $4.10 by the Interstate >>> yesterday. >>>>>> >>>>>>> On Fri, Mar 4, 2022 at 10:20 PM Allan Streib via Mercedes < >>>>>>> mercedes@okiebenz.com> wrote: >>>>>>> >>>>>>> Diesel is $4.59! >>>>>>> >>>>>>>> On Fri, Mar 4, 2022, at 11:18 PM, Andrew Strasfogel wrote: >>>>>>>> Bodes well for us diesel lovers. >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> On Fri, Mar 4, 2022, 11:09 PM Allan Streib via Mercedes < >>>>>>> mercedes@okiebenz.com> wrote: >>>>>>>>> Four dollars a gallon here tonight for 87. >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> Just keeps going up. $0.30 in the past two days alone >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> Bodes poorly for values of used V8s and SUVs? >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> ___ >>>>>>>>> http://www.okiebenz.com >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: >>>>>>>>> http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>> ___ >>>>>>> http://www.okiebenz.com >>>>>>> >>>>>>> To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ >>>>>>> >>>>>>> To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: >>>>>>> http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com >>>>>>>
Re: [MBZ] Gas prices and when will they affect used car prices
I don’t think it’s really necessary to mention why or who might be responsible for the extremely high fuel prices. That can be discussed on Okie talk Sent from my iPhone > On Mar 5, 2022, at 3:17 PM, Dimitri Seretakis via Mercedes > wrote: > > Discussion of gas prices is related to cars. Nobody specified or implied a > specific reason for the increase so I would say no. > > Sent from my iPhone > >> On Mar 5, 2022, at 3:52 PM, Dwight Giles via Mercedes >> wrote: >> >> is this considered political by the moderator? >> >>> On Sat, Mar 5, 2022, 3:35 PM Scott Ritchey via Mercedes < >>> mercedes@okiebenz.com> wrote: >>> >>> Price at the pump is the canary in the coal mine. Everything made using >>> energy or hydrocarbons will cost more, providing it is even available. We >>> have been well and truly screwed by environmentalist dilatants and the ESG >>> crowd. The Ukrainians got screwed infinitely worse. It doesn't stop >>> there; expect global food shortages in 2022 and beyond except in the US and >>> a few other self-sufficient places. >>> >>> -Original Message- >>> From: Mercedes On Behalf Of Karl Wittnebel via Mercedes >>> Sent: Saturday, March 5, 2022 3:02 PM >>> To: Mercedes Discussion List >>> Cc: Karl Wittnebel >>> Subject: Re: [MBZ] Gas prices and when will they affect used car prices >>> >>> I am counting on 8 before it's all over. >>> >>> On Sat, Mar 5, 2022, 10:37 AM Rick Knoble via Mercedes < >>> mercedes@okiebenz.com> wrote: >>> >>>> Closer to six bucks soon. >>>> >>>> >>>> Rick >>>> >>>> From: mercedes@okiebenz.com >>>> Sent: March 5, 2022 11:44 AM >>>> To: mercedes@okiebenz.com >>>> Reply-to: mercedes@okiebenz.com >>>> Cc: ka...@striplin.net >>>> Subject: Re: [MBZ] Gas prices and when will they affect used car >>>> prices >>>> >>>> Just passed the next station of the local major chain and it was $4.92. >>>> Since this chain controls all fuel prices in the area it will soon be >>>> $4.92 everywhere. >>>> >>>> Sent from my iPhone >>>> >>>>> On Mar 5, 2022, at 11:24 AM, Kaleb Striplin >>> wrote: >>>>> >>>>> Just got back to Tulsa. Was something like $3.69 and just had to >>>>> fill >>>> up at $4.29. Wtf? >>>>> >>>>> Sent from my iPhone >>>>> >>>>>> On Mar 5, 2022, at 9:55 AM, Kaleb Striplin >>> wrote: >>>>>> >>>>>> It was 4.59 just outside of Enid this morning >>>>>> >>>>>> Sent from my iPhone >>>>>> >>>>>>>> On Mar 5, 2022, at 9:44 AM, OK Don via Mercedes < >>>> mercedes@okiebenz.com> wrote: >>>>>>> >>>>>>> I saw Diesel at $3.80 in town, then at $4.10 by the Interstate >>>> yesterday. >>>>>>> >>>>>>>> On Fri, Mar 4, 2022 at 10:20 PM Allan Streib via Mercedes < >>>>>>>> mercedes@okiebenz.com> wrote: >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> Diesel is $4.59! >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> On Fri, Mar 4, 2022, at 11:18 PM, Andrew Strasfogel wrote: >>>>>>>>> Bodes well for us diesel lovers. >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> On Fri, Mar 4, 2022, 11:09 PM Allan Streib via Mercedes < >>>>>>>> mercedes@okiebenz.com> wrote: >>>>>>>>>> Four dollars a gallon here tonight for 87. >>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> Just keeps going up. $0.30 in the past two days alone >>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> Bodes poorly for values of used V8s and SUVs? >>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> ___ >>>>>>>>>> http://www.okiebenz.com >>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ >>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: >>>>>>>>>> http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/
Re: [MBZ] Gas prices and when will they affect used car prices
State by state average prices. https://gasprices.aaa.com/state-gas-price-averages/ Rick From: mercedes@okiebenz.com Sent: March 5, 2022 2:35 PM To: dsereta...@yahoo.com Reply-to: mercedes@okiebenz.com Cc: atypical...@gmail.com; mercedes@okiebenz.com Subject: Re: [MBZ] Gas prices and when will they affect used car prices Ok let's start a pool. Everybody put in 5 bucks and guess the high gas price for Los Angeles over the next month. Not sure how to monitor that price, though. ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] Gas prices and when will they affect used car prices
Discussion of gas prices is related to cars. Nobody specified or implied a specific reason for the increase so I would say no. Sent from my iPhone > On Mar 5, 2022, at 3:52 PM, Dwight Giles via Mercedes > wrote: > > is this considered political by the moderator? > >> On Sat, Mar 5, 2022, 3:35 PM Scott Ritchey via Mercedes < >> mercedes@okiebenz.com> wrote: >> >> Price at the pump is the canary in the coal mine. Everything made using >> energy or hydrocarbons will cost more, providing it is even available. We >> have been well and truly screwed by environmentalist dilatants and the ESG >> crowd. The Ukrainians got screwed infinitely worse. It doesn't stop >> there; expect global food shortages in 2022 and beyond except in the US and >> a few other self-sufficient places. >> >> -Original Message- >> From: Mercedes On Behalf Of Karl Wittnebel via Mercedes >> Sent: Saturday, March 5, 2022 3:02 PM >> To: Mercedes Discussion List >> Cc: Karl Wittnebel >> Subject: Re: [MBZ] Gas prices and when will they affect used car prices >> >> I am counting on 8 before it's all over. >> >> On Sat, Mar 5, 2022, 10:37 AM Rick Knoble via Mercedes < >> mercedes@okiebenz.com> wrote: >> >>> Closer to six bucks soon. >>> >>> >>> Rick >>> >>> From: mercedes@okiebenz.com >>> Sent: March 5, 2022 11:44 AM >>> To: mercedes@okiebenz.com >>> Reply-to: mercedes@okiebenz.com >>> Cc: ka...@striplin.net >>> Subject: Re: [MBZ] Gas prices and when will they affect used car >>> prices >>> >>> Just passed the next station of the local major chain and it was $4.92. >>> Since this chain controls all fuel prices in the area it will soon be >>> $4.92 everywhere. >>> >>> Sent from my iPhone >>> >>>> On Mar 5, 2022, at 11:24 AM, Kaleb Striplin >> wrote: >>>> >>>> Just got back to Tulsa. Was something like $3.69 and just had to >>>> fill >>> up at $4.29. Wtf? >>>> >>>> Sent from my iPhone >>>> >>>>> On Mar 5, 2022, at 9:55 AM, Kaleb Striplin >> wrote: >>>>> >>>>> It was 4.59 just outside of Enid this morning >>>>> >>>>> Sent from my iPhone >>>>> >>>>>>> On Mar 5, 2022, at 9:44 AM, OK Don via Mercedes < >>> mercedes@okiebenz.com> wrote: >>>>>> >>>>>> I saw Diesel at $3.80 in town, then at $4.10 by the Interstate >>> yesterday. >>>>>> >>>>>>> On Fri, Mar 4, 2022 at 10:20 PM Allan Streib via Mercedes < >>>>>>> mercedes@okiebenz.com> wrote: >>>>>>> >>>>>>> Diesel is $4.59! >>>>>>> >>>>>>>> On Fri, Mar 4, 2022, at 11:18 PM, Andrew Strasfogel wrote: >>>>>>>> Bodes well for us diesel lovers. >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> On Fri, Mar 4, 2022, 11:09 PM Allan Streib via Mercedes < >>>>>>> mercedes@okiebenz.com> wrote: >>>>>>>>> Four dollars a gallon here tonight for 87. >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> Just keeps going up. $0.30 in the past two days alone >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> Bodes poorly for values of used V8s and SUVs? >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> ___ >>>>>>>>> http://www.okiebenz.com >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: >>>>>>>>> http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>> ___ >>>>>>> http://www.okiebenz.com >>>>>>> >>>>>>> To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ >>>>>>> >>>>>>> To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: >>>>>>> http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com >>>>>>> >>>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>>
Re: [MBZ] Gas prices and when will they affect used car prices
is this considered political by the moderator? On Sat, Mar 5, 2022, 3:35 PM Scott Ritchey via Mercedes < mercedes@okiebenz.com> wrote: > Price at the pump is the canary in the coal mine. Everything made using > energy or hydrocarbons will cost more, providing it is even available. We > have been well and truly screwed by environmentalist dilatants and the ESG > crowd. The Ukrainians got screwed infinitely worse. It doesn't stop > there; expect global food shortages in 2022 and beyond except in the US and > a few other self-sufficient places. > > -Original Message- > From: Mercedes On Behalf Of Karl Wittnebel via Mercedes > Sent: Saturday, March 5, 2022 3:02 PM > To: Mercedes Discussion List > Cc: Karl Wittnebel > Subject: Re: [MBZ] Gas prices and when will they affect used car prices > > I am counting on 8 before it's all over. > > On Sat, Mar 5, 2022, 10:37 AM Rick Knoble via Mercedes < > mercedes@okiebenz.com> wrote: > > > Closer to six bucks soon. > > > > > > Rick > > > > From: mercedes@okiebenz.com > > Sent: March 5, 2022 11:44 AM > > To: mercedes@okiebenz.com > > Reply-to: mercedes@okiebenz.com > > Cc: ka...@striplin.net > > Subject: Re: [MBZ] Gas prices and when will they affect used car > > prices > > > > Just passed the next station of the local major chain and it was $4.92. > > Since this chain controls all fuel prices in the area it will soon be > > $4.92 everywhere. > > > > Sent from my iPhone > > > > > On Mar 5, 2022, at 11:24 AM, Kaleb Striplin > wrote: > > > > > > Just got back to Tulsa. Was something like $3.69 and just had to > > > fill > > up at $4.29. Wtf? > > > > > > Sent from my iPhone > > > > > >> On Mar 5, 2022, at 9:55 AM, Kaleb Striplin > wrote: > > >> > > >> It was 4.59 just outside of Enid this morning > > >> > > >> Sent from my iPhone > > >> > > >>>> On Mar 5, 2022, at 9:44 AM, OK Don via Mercedes < > > mercedes@okiebenz.com> wrote: > > >>> > > >>> I saw Diesel at $3.80 in town, then at $4.10 by the Interstate > > yesterday. > > >>> > > >>>> On Fri, Mar 4, 2022 at 10:20 PM Allan Streib via Mercedes < > > >>>> mercedes@okiebenz.com> wrote: > > >>>> > > >>>> Diesel is $4.59! > > >>>> > > >>>>> On Fri, Mar 4, 2022, at 11:18 PM, Andrew Strasfogel wrote: > > >>>>> Bodes well for us diesel lovers. > > >>>>> > > >>>>> On Fri, Mar 4, 2022, 11:09 PM Allan Streib via Mercedes < > > >>>> mercedes@okiebenz.com> wrote: > > >>>>>> Four dollars a gallon here tonight for 87. > > >>>>>> > > >>>>>> Just keeps going up. $0.30 in the past two days alone > > >>>>>> > > >>>>>> Bodes poorly for values of used V8s and SUVs? > > >>>>>> > > >>>>>> ___ > > >>>>>> http://www.okiebenz.com > > >>>>>> > > >>>>>> To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ > > >>>>>> > > >>>>>> To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: > > >>>>>> http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com > > >>>>>> > > >>>> ___ > > >>>> http://www.okiebenz.com > > >>>> > > >>>> To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ > > >>>> > > >>>> To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: > > >>>> http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com > > >>>> > > >>>> > > >>> > > >>> -- > > >>> OK Don > > >>> > > >>> "Whenever you find yourself on the side of the majority, it is > > >>> time to pause and reflect." Mark Twain > > >>> > > >>> “Basic research is what I’m doing when I don’t know what I am doing.” > > Wernher > > >>> Von Braun > > >>> 2013 F150, 18 mpg > > >>> 2017 Subaru Legacy, 30 mpg > > >>> 1957 C182A, 12 mpg - but at 150 mph! > > >>> ___
