Re: [MBZ] WAKE UP FOLKS, Euro 85 300D manny tranny
I recently pulled a 5 speed getrag box out of a 82 230TE which was a english delivered car. It has a non racing shift pattern. Hendrik - Original Message - From: Mitch Haley [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: Mercedes mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Friday, November 18, 2005 2:18 PM Subject: Re: [MBZ] WAKE UP FOLKS, Euro 85 300D manny tranny John Ervine wrote: Sunil Hari wrote: 5-speed Getrag on a 5-cyl. Datacard says 4-spd gearbox. I haven't heard of (reliably anyway) a non MBZ box on anything but a 16 valve W201. 2.3-16, Evolution, Evolution II all had Getrag 5sp with 1st gear back and left, 2-5 in an H pattern ___ For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://striplin.net/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_striplin.net -- Internal Virus Database is out-of-date. Checked by AVG Anti-Virus. Version: 7.0.338 / Virus Database: 267.13.0/167 - Release Date: 11/11/2005
Re: [MBZ] WAKE UP FOLKS, Euro 85 300D manny tranny
I am not sure but I think it is overdrive. Why else put a 5 speed in there? My old 81 200 from south Africa has a 4 speed. Also looking at the operators manual for my 230E it states that a 5 speed is optional on the 200, 230E, 230CE, 250, 280E and 280CE. Not that any where ever officially imported to Australia. Interesting thing is that top speeds rating in the owners manual states that a 5 speed W123 will go faster in 4th than 5th for example a 230E fitted with 5 speed will according to the operators manual do 112 mph in 4th and 105 mph in 5th. Hendrik - Original Message - From: Mitch Haley [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: Mercedes mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Friday, November 18, 2005 10:01 PM Subject: Re: [MBZ] WAKE UP FOLKS, Euro 85 300D manny tranny Hendrik Riessen wrote: I recently pulled a 5 speed getrag box out of a 82 230TE which was a english delivered car. It has a non racing shift pattern. Overdrive or 1:1 in 5th? Mitch. ___ For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://striplin.net/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_striplin.net -- No virus found in this incoming message. Checked by AVG Anti-Virus. Version: 7.0.338 / Virus Database: 267.13.3/174 - Release Date: 17/11/2005
Re: [MBZ] Forests paying the price for biofuels
Well at least it is diverting attention away from the real reason rainforests are being turned into farm land, running herds of cattle to feed McDonalds appetite for beef. At least if they grew a crop of something it would produce oxygen, rather than methane from cattle. Hendrik - Original Message - From: Rich Thomas [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: Mercedes mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Wednesday, November 23, 2005 5:41 AM Subject: [MBZ] Forests paying the price for biofuels Another one... --R http://www.newscientist.com/article.ns?id=mg18825265.400feedId=online-news_rss20 Forests paying the price for biofuels * 22 November 2005 * NewScientist.com news service * Fred Pearce THE drive for green energy in the developed world is having the perverse effect of encouraging the destruction of tropical rainforests. From the orang-utan reserves of Borneo to the Brazilian Amazon, virgin forest is being razed to grow palm oil and soybeans to fuel cars and power stations in Europe and North America. And surging prices are likely to accelerate the destruction MORE ___ For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://striplin.net/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_striplin.net -- No virus found in this incoming message. Checked by AVG Anti-Virus. Version: 7.0.338 / Virus Database: 267.13.3/174 - Release Date: 17/11/2005
[MBZ] So that's where the pontoons ended up
http://www.hamrablues.com/archive/sidebars/june_30_05_serveece.html From [EMAIL PROTECTED] Thu Nov 24 05:25:29 2005 Received: from mail.vla.com ([65.19.58.5] helo=mail.losalamos.com) by server1.arterytc1.net with esmtp (Exim 4.52) id 1Ef9bs-0003Eb-VK for [EMAIL PROTECTED]; Thu, 24 Nov 2005 05:25:29 + Received: from mccluskey ([65.19.22.192]) by mail.losalamos.com (Virtual Los Alamos Mail Server v6) with SMTP id BQY99618 for [EMAIL PROTECTED]; Wed, 23 Nov 2005 22:26:18 -0700 Date: Wed, 23 Nov 2005 22:25:21 -0700 From: Craig McCluskey [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: Mercedes mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] Message-Id: [EMAIL PROTECTED] In-Reply-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] References: [EMAIL PROTECTED] X-Mailer: Sylpheed version 1.0.3 (GTK+ 1.2.10; i686-pc-linux-gnu) Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Antivirus-Scanner: Clean mail though you should still use an Antivirus Subject: Re: [MBZ] Fuel prizes in your neighbourhood X-BeenThere: [EMAIL PROTECTED] X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.6 Precedence: list Reply-To: Mercedes mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] List-Id: Mercedes mailing list mercedes_striplin.net.striplin.net List-Unsubscribe: http://striplin.net/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_striplin.net, mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] List-Archive: http://striplin.net/pipermail/mercedes_striplin.net List-Post: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] List-Help: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] List-Subscribe: http://striplin.net/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_striplin.net, mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] X-List-Received-Date: Thu, 24 Nov 2005 05:25:29 - On Wed, 23 Nov 2005 07:20:21 -0600 Hans Neureiter [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: http://autos.msn.com/everyday/gasstations.aspx?zip=src=Netx But they don't offer me any prizes! In addition, they don't even list the Exxon station in town, where diesel is $2.799. The other places it's $3.099 or $3.159. Craig
Re: [MBZ] 280SE resto cost
The biggest costs are usally labour, so if you have access to the equipment
and have the skills to do the work then there is a good chance of making
money. There are other factors such as the purchase price of the vehicle to
be restored and having good contacts to get parts at the right price but
there are very few cars that are worth restoring.
Example: in todays paper there is a 78 450SEL advertised which cost
AU$20,000 to restore and the seller wants AU$7,200 ono
Given the current fuel prices I doubt that he/she will get the asking price.
Hendrik
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you are absolutely correct. I helped a guy thru a restoration of a 280SE
cabr. and it was $60k almost 20 years ago! Course that was when classic
car
prices were going crazy and he thought he'd get his money back. Shortly
after he finished the prices started to slide -
Making money (or just breaking even) on the restoration of old cars is a
tricky situation --and is often a losing proposition.
Sincerely,
Larry T ('74 911, '67 MGB, 78 240D)
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after which you'll have saved up the $20 G or so it will take for a
decent
restoration
job...
It will be closer to four times that much. You did say restoration and
not
fix-up didn't you?
RLE/Seattle
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Re: [MBZ] GM, was: What?
Back in the mid 80's there was a company that was importing V8 GM diesel motors over here to re-power landcruisers and the like. However the motors soon build a reputation as being rubbish. They sounded nice though. Hendrik - Original Message - From: Royce Engler [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: Mercedes mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Tuesday, November 29, 2005 2:05 PM Subject: Re: [MBZ] GM, was: What? I can tell you exactly when that happened on my '82 Pontiac Bonneville wagon. I was driving back to Houston from Fort Worth, stopped at a Texaco station in Waco and filled up with what turned out to be wet diesel fuel. Within 20 miles the engine started missing, and we barely made it back to Houston. At that time it had 40,000 miles on it. Took it in to the dealer and they said, oh, there's a special warranty on the IP and we'll replace it at no charge. No wonder they were in such a hurry to get me out of there. Never was the same after that, and the IP failed again at 70,000, and I dumped the car to get a '79 240D. Royce Engler 1985 300TD Turbo 265K -Original Message- From: Loren Faeth [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Monday, November 28, 2005 8:13 PM To: Mercedes mailing list Subject: [MBZ] GM, was: What? WHY GM? In a rush to capture part of the growing diesel market after the second gas shortage (76 i think) GM dieselized its 350 gasser. it was available in Olds, chevy, and caddy big cars and pickups. They put an itty bitty fuel filter on it, hidden on the back of the intake manifold, and piped the OUT side of the filter on the bottom, where any water would collect. Any water in the fuel went to the injectors and ruined them, costing big bucks. The engines were prone to failure, and the dealers didn't want to service diesels, nor did their mechanics. Most problems were plugged fuel filters, or ruined nozzles. The engine was reasonably reliable, if you put a Racor or Master filter on them that really filtered the fuel and separated the water. (remember, this was another period when bad fuel was prevalent.) If pulled hard, the bottom end would go out. then, in the fall of 1984, GM made a very loud announcement that the diesel engine had no future in the US, and GM was stopping production of diesel engines. There was a lot more to the announcement, generally saying that if you bought or owned a diesel car that you were feeble minded. Not content with that mayhem, GM went to the EPA, and collaborated to toughen the emissions standards so that NO diesel engine in production or planning could meet the regulation. Until that day, GM had been ardently fighting the EPA and the greenie weenies on Diesel emission regs. GM diesel cars sat on lots or were junked. You could buy a nice GM diesel for $500, 1, 2, or 3 years old. The proclamation was so widely publicized that it killed the sales of Diesel cars for every manufacturer, even those committed, like MB and VW. Mercedes had already prepared the trap oxidizer for the CA market, and could meet the regs for 85-87. But the damage was done. There is a reason why 81-85 123 cars are so plentiful. They were very popular, and of course, very durable. But, very few diesels sold after the GM proclamation. There were a few SDLs sold in 86 and 87. There were a handful of TDs sold in 87, mostly for dealer roadside assistance vehicles. A few 124 300Ds sold. Ford sold most of its escort diesels to fleets such as GTE to use up the stock of engines. VW could not sell enough diesels to bother meeting the regs for a few years. THAT is why GM. If it weren't for GM, diesel cars would be selling at about 20% from 1985 until now. In 75 to 1980, I usually had the only Diesel at our MBCA section events. Sometimes there was one other car, a 220D or a 240D. Then at one meeting, I could not believe my eyes, Every car there was a diesel! 240Ds, 300Ds, CDs Over the winter everyone had traded for a new Diesel 123! Same people, they now had diesels. I think that was in the spring of 82. Loren At 08:35 AM 11/28/2005, you wrote: Why GM? Chris ___ For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://striplin.net/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_striplin.net -- No virus found in this incoming message. Checked by AVG Anti-Virus. Version: 7.0.338 / Virus Database: 267.13.7/181 - Release Date: 24/11/2005
Re: [MBZ] anybody want rear headrests in their 123?
Well I prefer a lighter interior and exterior colour, those dark blue interiors make me feel claustrophobic. I have had no probs with dirt (including having a couple of kids in the back doing what kids do). Must admit the worst interior colour is those blood red ones...uuugghh. Hendrik - Original Message - From: andrew strasfogel [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: Mercedes mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Wednesday, November 30, 2005 2:57 AM Subject: Re: [MBZ] anybody want rear headrests in their 123? Dark blue is much prettier than tan and it doesn't show dirt - a real plus! On 11/28/05, Hendrik Riessen [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Already have them and in a much nicer tan colour.
Re: [MBZ] MANNY TRANNY SLC
My 230E has crank windows and colour coordinated steel hubcaps. I like it like that. Tasteless Hendrik - Original Message - From: andrew strasfogel [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: Mercedes mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Friday, December 02, 2005 4:58 AM Subject: Re: [MBZ] MANNY TRANNY SLC Crank windows and old hubcaps. Tasteless, sort of like Tom Cruise wearing high heals, Bermuda shorts and a halter top. On 12/1/05, Kaleb C. Striplin [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: http://cgi.ebay.com/ebaymotors/Mercedes-Benz-200-Series-1979-Mercedes-280SLC-4-Speed_W0QQitemZ4594459549QQcategoryZ6329QQrdZ1QQcmdZViewItem -- Kaleb C. Striplin/Claremore, OK 89 560SEL, 87 300SDL, 85 380SE, 85 300D, 84 250 LWB, 83 300TD, 81 300TD, 81 240D, 81 240D, 76 450SEL, 76 240D, 76 300D, 74 240D, 69 250 Okie Benz Auto parts-email for used parts ___ For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://striplin.net/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_striplin.net ___ For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://striplin.net/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_striplin.net -- No virus found in this incoming message. Checked by AVG Anti-Virus. Version: 7.0.338 / Virus Database: 267.13.10/189 - Release Date: 30/11/2005
Re: [MBZ] Flashing red light in the recirculation switch - '90 124
Could be a bad solder in the system somewhere. That is one of the areas that the Japanese are good at and the rest not so. Had to fix the electro magnetic clutch on a 190E last summer due to bad soldering. Hendrik - Original Message - From: OK Don [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: Mercedes mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Saturday, December 03, 2005 1:26 PM Subject: [MBZ] Flashing red light in the recirculation switch - '90 124 When I left the house to run an errand this evening in the '90 300D 2.5, the led in the recirculation switch started flashing. The ACC didn't work - it was blowing a little air, and wouldn't turn off. When I got to my destination, I turned the car off - the light stopped blinking - then started it again - the light didn't blink and the ACC worked normally. It all works normally for two more stops, then home again. Any idea what was going on? Has Clay's wagongeist come to visit? How does a pastafarenian do an exorcism? -- OK Don, KD5NRO Norman, OK '90 300D, '87 300SDL, '81 240D, '78 450SLC The FSM created the Diesel Benz http://www.venganza.org/ ___ For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://striplin.net/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_striplin.net -- No virus found in this incoming message. Checked by AVG Anti-Virus. Version: 7.0.338 / Virus Database: 267.13.10/189 - Release Date: 30/11/2005
[MBZ] Another video, this time with pontoon and /8
http://www.karocom.de/TRAILERII.wmv A fella from the ozvets forum posted this, enjoy. Hendrik From [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sat Dec 03 11:59:54 2005 Received: from ihug-mail.icp-qv1-irony3.iinet.net.au ([203.59.1.197] helo=mail-ihug.icp-qv1-irony3.iinet.net.au) by server5.arterytc5.net with esmtp (Exim 4.52) id 1EiW3W-0005Jz-AA for [EMAIL PROTECTED]; Sat, 03 Dec 2005 11:59:54 + Received: from 203-173-47-220.dyn.iinet.net.au (HELO yourwxrsc38umf) ([203.173.47.220]) by mail-ihug.icp-qv1-irony3.iinet.net.au with SMTP; 03 Dec 2005 19:59:48 +0800 X-BrightmailFiltered: true X-Brightmail-Tracker: AA=Message-ID: [EMAIL PROTECTED] From: Hendrik Riessen [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: Mercedes mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] References: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Date: Sat, 3 Dec 2005 22:29:44 +1030 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; format=flowed; charset=iso-8859-1; reply-type=original Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 6.00.2900.2180 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2900.2180 X-Antivirus-Scanner: Clean mail though you should still use an Antivirus Subject: Re: [MBZ] Another video, this time with pontoon and /8 X-BeenThere: [EMAIL PROTECTED] X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.6 Precedence: list Reply-To: Mercedes mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] List-Id: Mercedes mailing list mercedes_striplin.net.striplin.net List-Unsubscribe: http://striplin.net/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_striplin.net, mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] List-Archive: http://striplin.net/pipermail/mercedes_striplin.net List-Post: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] List-Help: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] List-Subscribe: http://striplin.net/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_striplin.net, mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] X-List-Received-Date: Sat, 03 Dec 2005 11:59:54 - Sorry should a warned yous, it's about 6mb big. Hendrik - Original Message - From: Hendrik Riessen [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: Mercedes mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Saturday, December 03, 2005 10:24 PM Subject: [MBZ] Another video, this time with pontoon and /8 http://www.karocom.de/TRAILERII.wmv A fella from the ozvets forum posted this, enjoy. Hendrik ___ For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://striplin.net/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_striplin.net -- No virus found in this incoming message. Checked by AVG Anti-Virus. Version: 7.0.338 / Virus Database: 267.13.10/189 - Release Date: 30/11/2005
Re: [MBZ] Another video, this time with pontoon and /8
Yeahh, we have even upgraded to a fancy system. http://forum.mbspares.com.au/index.php Hendrik - Original Message - From: Kaleb C. Striplin [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: Mercedes mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Sunday, December 04, 2005 1:37 AM Subject: Re: [MBZ] Another video, this time with pontoon and /8 Didnt know there was an ozvets forum anymore Hendrik Riessen wrote: http://www.karocom.de/TRAILERII.wmv A fella from the ozvets forum posted this, enjoy. Hendrik ___ For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://striplin.net/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_striplin.net -- Kaleb C. Striplin/Claremore, OK 89 560SEL, 87 300SDL, 85 380SE, 85 300D, 84 250 LWB, 83 300TD, 81 300TD, 81 240D, 81 240D, 76 450SEL, 76 240D, 76 300D, 74 240D, 69 250 Okie Benz Auto parts-email for used parts ___ For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://striplin.net/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_striplin.net -- No virus found in this incoming message. Checked by AVG Anti-Virus. Version: 7.0.338 / Virus Database: 267.13.10/189 - Release Date: 30/11/2005
Re: [MBZ] Some things are just plain wrong
Mate, we drive on the left side of the road (most of the time) or where you referring to the drivers position within a motor vehicle? Hendrik all over the road but I am allowed to because I do it in a Benz - Original Message - From: TimothyPilgrim [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: Mercedes mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Monday, December 05, 2005 1:49 PM Subject: Re: [MBZ] Some things are just plain wrong http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Jeremy_Clarkson Tim 1982 300TD Moby On 12/2/05, Alex Chamberlain [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Yeah, WTF??? (I could understand if that video really were from Australian TV as the poster said, but they drive on the right in Australia, and the guy doesn't have an Aussie accent.) ___ For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://striplin.net/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_striplin.net -- No virus found in this incoming message. Checked by AVG Anti-Virus. Version: 7.0.338 / Virus Database: 267.13.10/189 - Release Date: 30/11/2005
Re: [MBZ] Some things are just plain wrong
There are LH drive vehicles in Australia but it is has to be a certain age in order to get approval. It is possible to have racing cars in LH drive mode but they can't be used on public roads. Hendrik - Original Message - From: Alex Chamberlain [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: Mercedes mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Monday, December 05, 2005 4:52 PM Subject: Re: [MBZ] Some things are just plain wrong I don't know what I meant, but the poor 911 in the video has the wheel on the left side, American/Continental-style. Alex Chamberlain '87 300D Turbo On 12/4/05, Hendrik Riessen [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Mate, we drive on the left side of the road (most of the time) or where you referring to the drivers position within a motor vehicle? Hendrik all over the road but I am allowed to because I do it in a Benz On 12/2/05, Alex Chamberlain [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Yeah, WTF??? (I could understand if that video really were from Australian TV as the poster said, but they drive on the right in Australia, and the guy doesn't have an Aussie accent.) ___ For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://striplin.net/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_striplin.net -- No virus found in this incoming message. Checked by AVG Anti-Virus. Version: 7.0.338 / Virus Database: 267.13.10/189 - Release Date: 30/11/2005
Re: [MBZ] Some things are just plain wrong
Those South Africans drive on the left like all sensible people. There are quite a few SA 123's over here in Oz, I know I owned one for a couple of years. Mercedes got them build from knock down kits, probably to get around the trade embargos. Hendrik - Original Message - From: Jeff Zedic [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: Mercedes mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Tuesday, December 06, 2005 9:03 AM Subject: Re: [MBZ] Some things are just plain wrong India on the left. China I think, all former Bristish colonies on the left. That would inlcude Kenya, Ghana, Zimbabwe and South Africa. (?)Hmmm. not sure on SA. Most of the Caribbean are too, n'est-ce pas? Jeff Zedic Toronto 87 300TD 83 300D ___ For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://striplin.net/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_striplin.net -- No virus found in this incoming message. Checked by AVG Anti-Virus. Version: 7.0.338 / Virus Database: 267.13.10/189 - Release Date: 30/11/2005
Re: [MBZ] Photo of the Day
Works for me. Looks like a one eared 240D. Shocker of a listing. Hendrik - Original Message - From: andrew strasfogel [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: Mercedes mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Thursday, December 08, 2005 6:25 AM Subject: Re: [MBZ] Photo of the Day Wont open for me. On 12/7/05, Bob Rentfro [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: This wins the photo of the day award and asks the question: what 600 gets 33mpg? http://makeashorterlink.com/?U3921274C Bob Rentfro '77 300D 144k Litchfield Park, AZ ___ For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://striplin.net/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_striplin.net ___ For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://striplin.net/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_striplin.net -- No virus found in this incoming message. Checked by AVG Anti-Virus. Version: 7.0.338 / Virus Database: 267.13.12/193 - Release Date: 6/12/2005
Re: [MBZ] Photo of the Day
Kaleb is probably already looking at it even as we speak :-) Hendrik - Original Message - From: Hendrik Riessen [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: Mercedes mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Thursday, December 08, 2005 7:49 AM Subject: Re: [MBZ] Photo of the Day Works for me. Looks like a one eared 240D. Shocker of a listing. Hendrik - Original Message - From: andrew strasfogel [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: Mercedes mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Thursday, December 08, 2005 6:25 AM Subject: Re: [MBZ] Photo of the Day Wont open for me. On 12/7/05, Bob Rentfro [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: This wins the photo of the day award and asks the question: what 600 gets 33mpg? http://makeashorterlink.com/?U3921274C Bob Rentfro '77 300D 144k Litchfield Park, AZ ___ For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://striplin.net/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_striplin.net ___ For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://striplin.net/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_striplin.net -- No virus found in this incoming message. Checked by AVG Anti-Virus. Version: 7.0.338 / Virus Database: 267.13.12/193 - Release Date: 6/12/2005 ___ For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://striplin.net/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_striplin.net -- No virus found in this incoming message. Checked by AVG Anti-Virus. Version: 7.0.338 / Virus Database: 267.13.12/193 - Release Date: 6/12/2005
Re: [MBZ] 190D Day 3
I have never had the need to do this but you can try and measure the temperature of the water in the radiator to confirm that the gauge is not working. Just because the thermostat is near new does not mean it can not fail, especially if it is a cheap one. Hendrik - Original Message - From: Curt Raymond [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Thursday, December 08, 2005 8:01 AM Subject: Re: [MBZ] 190D Day 3 Hi Marshall, I talked to the guy I bought it from and he told me he put in a new thermostat recently. Considering the temp needle barely moves I think it likely something is wrong with the gauge. I definately had heat more than the gauge barely registering would give. When you say The temp gauge WILL read low if there is any resistance in the lines or connections that go from the gauge to the sensor you're talking wiring right? Do you know where the sensor is on the block? Maybe (this would be so nice) the wire is just disconnected or something. -Curt '85 190D 2.2l 5spd
Re: [MBZ] 84 190E - Concerns?
Does it have the K or KE jetronic (CIS/CISE) fuel injection system? They do rust, mainly in the bottom of the doors. If the bottom of the doors are rust free the rest should be alright. Other than that you may have to replace the timing chain and varuious suspension components, as per other Mercs. Fuel pump may be tired. Hendrik - Original Message - From: Ed Booher [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: Mercedes mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Thursday, December 08, 2005 9:42 AM Subject: [MBZ] 84 190E - Concerns? All, Looking at a 190E for what I feel is a too cheap price of $600. The seller says the vehicle will start and run but usually needs to be coaxed into doing so. Said something like the injection pump was bad and that the repair was more than the car is worth? I thought it was diesels that had IP's, not gassers? But, never having owned an MB yet I know next to nothing about them except what I've read here. The body appears straight and I can see no immediately apparent rust. 190,000 miles, AT (of course), have not seen interior yet. (Talked to seller on phone, have seen a few pics) What should I know about this so I go into this with eyes open? Is the 190E engine problematic? What questions should I ask? Why does he say IP is bad? Are these like the 116 that traps and hides rust? Where should I focus looking for rust? You know, etc, etc. Thanks in advance all -- Knowledge is power... Power Corrupts. Study hard... Be Evil. ___ For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://striplin.net/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_striplin.net -- No virus found in this incoming message. Checked by AVG Anti-Virus. Version: 7.0.338 / Virus Database: 267.13.12/193 - Release Date: 6/12/2005
Re: [MBZ] my wife did it!
My 84 has a aftermarket alarm/remote lock-unlock system installed and I don't think I have ever used the key to unlock/lock it. I know I should lubricate the door locks now and again but that remote thingy is just so wonderful :-) Hendrik - Original Message - From: Sunil Hari [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: Mercedes mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Friday, December 09, 2005 7:38 AM Subject: Re: [MBZ] my wife did it! 123 cars don't centrally lock/unlock from ANY lock but the driver's side. It's a distinct possibility that the dealer-cut key was cut incorrectly - I've had it happen to me. Of course, when it happened to me, I had another key to compare it to, showed the parts guy at the dealership, and they ordered me a new (properly-cut) one. On 12/8/05, Zeitgeist [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I tried unsuccessfully to lock/unlock all the doors from the passenger side on my '84 300D, but just thought something was defective. Are you saying that's normal? Casey Olympia, WA Biodiesel: I drive in a persistent vegetative state '87 300TD intercooler (211k) '84 300D (207k) Gashuffer: '89 Vanagon Wolfsburg Edition (186K) ___ For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://striplin.net/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_striplin.net -- Sunil Hari [EMAIL PROTECTED] 513-205-7474 ___ For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://striplin.net/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_striplin.net -- No virus found in this incoming message. Checked by AVG Anti-Virus. Version: 7.0.338 / Virus Database: 267.13.12/193 - Release Date: 6/12/2005
[MBZ] W123 limo going cheap
http://club123d.org/listings/page10.html No financial interest disclaimer goes here Hendrik From [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sun Dec 11 12:38:04 2005 Received: from xproxy.gmail.com ([66.249.82.202]) by server5.arterytc5.net with esmtp (Exim 4.52) id 1ElQSq-0001nN-EH for [EMAIL PROTECTED]; Sun, 11 Dec 2005 12:38:04 + Received: by xproxy.gmail.com with SMTP id s11so1060868wxc for [EMAIL PROTECTED]; Sun, 11 Dec 2005 04:38:01 -0800 (PST) DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; q=dns; c=nofws; s¾ta; d=gmail.com; h=received:message-id:date:from:to:subject:in-reply-to:mime-version:content-type:content-transfer-encoding:content-disposition:references; b=Oe0wUNBQV+CpRR2IxIP9+oFaqoXx5WmmucVkDJYzAJXb3hRJay3UZoefUOI+n8RZqsj48KJsluwkxsWr722RpV+ysc2kY41eg/BYUzgs/wmb7zllZQgPsE3wvd/JUTqHH8QlNLI5MBH2RyV+oj3NYY+8uSPqMR41cmLoe/JAGikReceived: by 10.70.65.4 with SMTP id n4mr6881696wxa; Sun, 11 Dec 2005 04:38:00 -0800 (PST) Received: by 10.70.113.12 with HTTP; Sun, 11 Dec 2005 04:38:00 -0800 (PST) Message-ID: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Date: Sun, 11 Dec 2005 04:38:00 -0800 From: Alex Chamberlain [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: Mercedes mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] In-Reply-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Content-Disposition: inline References: [EMAIL PROTECTED] X-Antivirus-Scanner: Clean mail though you should still use an Antivirus Subject: Re: [MBZ] W123 limo going cheap X-BeenThere: [EMAIL PROTECTED] X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.6 Precedence: list Reply-To: Mercedes mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] List-Id: Mercedes mailing list mercedes_striplin.net.striplin.net List-Unsubscribe: http://striplin.net/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_striplin.net, mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] List-Archive: http://striplin.net/pipermail/mercedes_striplin.net List-Post: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] List-Help: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] List-Subscribe: http://striplin.net/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_striplin.net, mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] X-List-Received-Date: Sun, 11 Dec 2005 12:38:04 - On 12/11/05, Hendrik Riessen [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: http://club123d.org/listings/page10.html Wow, could that possibly be any uglier? Alex Chamberlain '87 300D Turbo
Re: [MBZ] W123 limo going cheap
Yes it could, http://www.w123-world.org/showthread.php?t=293 Hendrik - Original Message - From: Alex Chamberlain [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: Mercedes mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Sunday, December 11, 2005 11:08 PM Subject: Re: [MBZ] W123 limo going cheap On 12/11/05, Hendrik Riessen [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: http://club123d.org/listings/page10.html Wow, could that possibly be any uglier? Alex Chamberlain '87 300D Turbo ___ For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://striplin.net/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_striplin.net -- No virus found in this incoming message. Checked by AVG Anti-Virus. Version: 7.0.338 / Virus Database: 267.13.12/193 - Release Date: 6/12/2005
Re: [MBZ] Why is my 85 300 TD running cold?
That or a dodgy temp sender/gauge. Does the radiator feel hot after going for a drive? Hendrik - Original Message - From: LT Don [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: Mercedes mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Monday, December 12, 2005 12:59 PM Subject: Re: [MBZ] Why is my 85 300 TD running cold? I'd still replace the thermostat, in spite of your kitchen test. That can be the only variable here that I can imagine. Pretty cheap test. If nothing else, you will have a spare working thermostat in your trunk. I couldn't believe the difference when I replace mine about a year ago. Don On 12/12/05, Harry Watkins [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: To all On the way back from buying it, my co-pilot drove the first 50 miles and I followed to observe. He was driving it like it was stolen but I never saw ANY sign of smoke. I drove it the last 300 miles and the temp gauge never got to 80. To stay warm, I selected defrost and never got too hot like I have in other MBs. I also never saw smoke on FOT from a start. Today I removed the thermostat, hoping it would be stuck open, but it wasn't. I tested it on the stove and it begin to open well before bubbles begin to form and was fully open before a boil. I don't know if this is normal or not. MPG = 23, is that about right? Any ideas? Harry Watkins Newton, MS 86 SDL Silver 85 300D Euro 86 SDL Gold 81 240D manual trans ___ For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://striplin.net/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_striplin.net -- 1977 240D 1972 Honda CB-500K motorcycle http://www.airamericaradio.com/listen ___ For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://striplin.net/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_striplin.net -- No virus found in this incoming message. Checked by AVG Anti-Virus. Version: 7.0.338 / Virus Database: 267.13.12/193 - Release Date: 6/12/2005
Re: [MBZ] W123 limo going cheap
His first name is apparently Vince, goes under the handle vlayton on the w123-world.org forum. Hendrik - Original Message - From: Fmiser [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: Mercedes mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Monday, December 12, 2005 4:54 PM Subject: Re: [MBZ] W123 limo going cheap rumor has it that George wrote: I've often wondered who this guy is. He is only known as [EMAIL PROTECTED] I scanned the front and back of the business card. But to make the fine print readable the images is about 500K. Is that too big to send to the list? Philip, enquiring minds want to know... ___ For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://striplin.net/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_striplin.net -- No virus found in this incoming message. Checked by AVG Anti-Virus. Version: 7.0.338 / Virus Database: 267.13.12/193 - Release Date: 6/12/2005
Re: [MBZ] [Fwd: Re: Club 123D]
In regards to personal info, I only passed on what I found on a public forum and I think what this list was trying to get at was wether the W123 club is some sort of Nigerian scam, existing only to fleece money from Mercedes owners. As Vince has stated, his intentions are honourable and as I have no knowledge of anything else I am prepared to take his word on that. Hendrik - Original Message - From: Kaleb C. Striplin [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: Mercedes mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Wednesday, December 14, 2005 1:27 AM Subject: [MBZ] [Fwd: Re: Club 123D] The vince dude wanted me to post this in reponse to the comments about his 123 club. Original Message Subject: Re: Club 123D Date: Tue, 13 Dec 2005 07:46:52 + From: V Layton [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] SNIPPED However, I don't really like my personal information being splayed out all over by whoever posted it. Perhaps instead of just investigating and trying to decipher my intentions people could contact me and judge for themselves. It's just a little humble of a nothing enthusiast club, and not a threat to anyone. It's not some scam, it a novelty. Auto entusuiast groups meet in America for every kind of car, why not W123s? Lastly, I'm not a dealer, the limo is not mine, and I think I made it VERY clear the car is no gem or bargain. It is a W123 that someone wants to sell and I let people who desire as this private owner did to gain free advertisement on my website. I make no money off car sales- no commission or anything- Feel free to post this email on your forum as my rebuttal- I'd join in myself, but I'd only be hocking wares where it seems it wouldn't be recieved too well. Regards, Vince _ On the road to retirement? Check out MSN Life Events for advice on how to get there! http://lifeevents.msn.com/category.aspx?cid=Retirement -- Kaleb C. Striplin/Claremore, OK 89 560SEL, 87 300SDL, 85 380SE, 85 300D, 84 250 LWB, 83 300TD, 81 300TD, 81 240D, 81 240D, 76 450SEL, 76 240D, 76 300D, 74 240D, 69 250 Okie Benz Auto parts-email for used parts ___ For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://striplin.net/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_striplin.net -- No virus found in this incoming message. Checked by AVG Anti-Virus. Version: 7.0.338 / Virus Database: 267.13.13/198 - Release Date: 12/12/2005
Re: [MBZ] Former taxi?
Looks a bit like a console out of a /8 Perhaps it is a special French version, made especially because the standard one is too Germanic? Or maybe MB where just using up old bits and pieces they had lying around and then flog them off to the French. Hendrik - Original Message - From: John Peterson [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: Mercedes mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Wednesday, December 14, 2005 2:48 AM Subject: Re: [MBZ] Former taxi? I think that is an old Volvo console- placed in the MB. - Original Message - From: Kaleb C. Striplin [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: Mercedes mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Tuesday, December 13, 2005 9:53 AM Subject: Re: [MBZ] Former taxi? I have never seen anything like that before. tom savage wrote: http://cgi.ebay.fr/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItemitem=4595521056 Anyone ever seen a 123 interior like this? I'm wondering if the meter went where the dummy vent panel is on the dash. And the console...? Tom, Curieux ___ For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://striplin.net/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_striplin.net -- Kaleb C. Striplin/Claremore, OK 89 560SEL, 87 300SDL, 85 380SE, 85 300D, 84 250 LWB, 83 300TD, 81 300TD, 81 240D, 81 240D, 76 450SEL, 76 240D, 76 300D, 74 240D, 69 250 Okie Benz Auto parts-email for used parts ___ For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://striplin.net/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_striplin.net ___ For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://striplin.net/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_striplin.net -- No virus found in this incoming message. Checked by AVG Anti-Virus. Version: 7.0.338 / Virus Database: 267.13.13/198 - Release Date: 12/12/2005
Re: [MBZ] 123 club
Well he's got to be if he drives a 123 :-) Hendrik who saw a rare 240D manual today (should have left a note offering to buy it) - Original Message - From: Kaleb C. Striplin [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: Mercedes mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Thursday, December 15, 2005 12:55 PM Subject: [MBZ] 123 club Vince will probably be joining us soon. He seems like a pretty good guy, FYI. -- Kaleb C. Striplin/Claremore, OK 89 560SEL, 87 300SDL, 85 380SE, 85 300D, 84 250 LWB, 83 300TD, 81 300TD, 81 240D, 81 240D, 76 450SEL, 76 240D, 76 300D, 74 240D, 69 250 Okie Benz Auto parts-email for used parts ___ For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://striplin.net/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_striplin.net -- No virus found in this incoming message. Checked by AVG Anti-Virus. Version: 7.0.338 / Virus Database: 267.13.13/198 - Release Date: 12/12/2005
Re: [MBZ] Year End Specials
You talking about reifenluft? What is the part number, I forgot? Hendrik running non-genuine air and it really handles like poo - Original Message - From: LT Don [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: Mercedes mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Thursday, December 15, 2005 1:18 PM Subject: Re: [MBZ] Year End Specials No ... he had to special order the air from Germany. On 12/15/05, redghost [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: LT, did he offer you the proper Teutonic Air or was he able to assure you that common Iowa air is good enough for the tires, since they are not OEM and long out of warranty? I am sure I do not need to order the air from Rusty, as I am using nasty cheapo tires on Gump. On Wednesday, December 14, 2005, at 05:20 PM, LT Don wrote: Actually, I shouldn't trash Gary. I got him that last few times I called (except I got Rusty for the most important order, but that was because I asked for him). Gary is good on the phone. He was very professional until he realized who I was. And then he turned into Howard Stern on the wrong meds. But in the end, in spite of himself, he guided me toward what I needed to go along with the part I was ordering, etc. Yea, maybe he called me a few names and was abusive (in a good natured way) and kept me on the phone for a long time, but that is what builds long-term customers, letting them know that you as a vendor really care about the customer and his/her needs. Gary is very helpful on the phone. Prior to talking to him, I had no idea that I had to periodically replace the air in my tires. On 12/15/05, Kaleb C. Striplin [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA, especially if you are from canada. LT Don wrote: You call and ask to speak to anyone other than Gary. On 12/15/05, Mike Piles [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Hi Rusty how do I take advantage of this special? -- Kaleb C. Striplin/Claremore, OK 89 560SEL, 87 300SDL, 85 380SE, 85 300D, 84 250 LWB, 83 300TD, 81 300TD, 81 240D, 81 240D, 76 450SEL, 76 240D, 76 300D, 74 240D, 69 250 Okie Benz Auto parts-email for used parts ___ For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://striplin.net/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_striplin.net -- 1977 240D 1972 Honda CB-500K motorcycle http://www.airamericaradio.com/listen ___ For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://striplin.net/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_striplin.net -- Clay Seattle Bioburner 1972 220D - Gump 1995 E300D - Cleo 1987 300SDL - POS - DOA The FSM would drive a Diesel Benz ___ For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://striplin.net/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_striplin.net -- 1977 240D 1972 Honda CB-500K motorcycle http://www.airamericaradio.com/listen ___ For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://striplin.net/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_striplin.net -- No virus found in this incoming message. Checked by AVG Anti-Virus. Version: 7.0.338 / Virus Database: 267.13.13/198 - Release Date: 12/12/2005
Re: [MBZ] Sweet Vegas Ride, Yo
Perhaps he is using figures for a SL? Betcha when it comes time to wrangle with an insurance company you would not be able to find figures like that. It is a tidy looking 123 though, very original. Might win the presidents award in the 123 club:-) Hendrik who bought some clear indicators (off ebay for only US$8.90 but shipping over here was US$60) to give the 230E as a Xmas pressy - Original Message - From: Kaleb C. Striplin [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: Mercedes mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Friday, December 16, 2005 10:57 AM Subject: Re: [MBZ] Sweet Vegas Ride, Yo Where does that crackhead get those NADA figures? Out of his ass? Dave M. wrote: The car looks nice, but wow, he's posting NADA book values in pesos! What's up with that? Kaleb might offer an extra ten-spot over his usual $500 for this one. =) +dm™ -- Date: Thu, 15 Dec 2005 09:15:13 -0700 From: Bob Rentfro [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: [MBZ] Sweet Vegas Ride, Yo Mercy http://makeashorterlink.com/?N2BD3415C Bob Rentfro '77 300D 144K Litchfield Park, AZ ___ For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://striplin.net/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_striplin.net -- Kaleb C. Striplin/Claremore, OK 89 560SEL, 87 300SDL, 85 380SE, 85 300D, 84 250 LWB, 83 300TD, 81 300TD, 81 240D, 81 240D, 76 450SEL, 76 240D, 76 300D, 74 240D, 69 250 Okie Benz Auto parts-email for used parts ___ For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://striplin.net/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_striplin.net -- No virus found in this incoming message. Checked by AVG Anti-Virus. Version: 7.0.338 / Virus Database: 267.13.13/198 - Release Date: 12/12/2005
Re: [MBZ] need more pics
Look Santa this is the sort of car I want...make sure it is red you old so and so. - Original Message - From: Kaleb C. Striplin [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: Mercedes mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED]; Banned List [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Tuesday, December 20, 2005 10:11 AM Subject: [MBZ] need more pics Need some good pics of a 108 chassis or some other old car, and a SL or some sort. -- Kaleb C. Striplin/Claremore, OK 89 560SEL, 87 300SDL, 85 380SE, 85 300D, 84 250 LWB, 83 300TD, 81 300TD, 81 240D, 81 240D, 76 450SEL, 76 240D, 76 300D, 74 240D, 69 250 Okie Benz Auto parts-email for used parts ___ For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://striplin.net/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_striplin.net -- No virus found in this incoming message. Checked by AVG Anti-Virus. Version: 7.0.338 / Virus Database: 267.14.1/206 - Release Date: 16/12/2005
Re: [MBZ] Seasons Greetings !!
Yeah well before you get too cranky about model availability, spare a thought for us over here in Oz. Manual diesel? Ferget it. Manual anything? Very rare and usually privately imported from rust central. Diesel Mercs in general? Yeah a few but always going for top dollar unless totally worn out. So you can just stop your whinning and start feeling sorry for those who really deserve it. Hendrik still looking for that elusive 240D with manual box but have a 5 speed to put in the 230E when I can convince the missus that shifting gears tones the leg muscles PS. Happy non denominational holidays to all on the list and don't forget to give the true love in your life something nice from the auto shop (I suppose the family will want stuff too), I am getting the 230E clear front indicators. - Original Message - From: Jeff Zedic [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]; Mercedes mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Thursday, December 22, 2005 8:31 AM Subject: Re: [MBZ] Seasons Greetings !! The prvious posting was from a European lister and they had them right until 95 in the W124. The stuff we get in North America is shit xompared to what they get over there! Jeff Zedic Toronto ___ For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://striplin.net/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_striplin.net -- No virus found in this incoming message. Checked by AVG Anti-Virus. Version: 7.0.338 / Virus Database: 267.14.1/206 - Release Date: 16/12/2005
Re: [MBZ] GREEN BABY, YEA
99% of cars are rust buckets, the only difference is the rate of rust. My 230E is a similar exterior colour but thankfully it is light tan inside. Anyhow let us know the outcome of the bidding on the SLC, if it is half as good as the ad states then it should attract a pretty sum. However that colour combo is not to everyone's taste, perhaps a touch too seventies. Then again the retro look is in again. Hendrik - Original Message - From: redghost [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: Mercedes mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Friday, December 23, 2005 2:18 PM Subject: Re: [MBZ] GREEN BABY, YEA I put a bid in, but told the dude that there are 450SLC all over the place, rusted to bits. So he had it half right, the cars are rust buckets On Thursday, December 22, 2005, at 07:07 PM, Kaleb C. Striplin wrote: http://cgi.ebay.com/ebaymotors/Mercedes-Benz-400-Series-RARE-CLASSIC- 1975-MERCEDES-MODEL-107- 450SLC_W0QQitemZ4599502927QQcategoryZ6331QQrdZ1QQcmdZViewItem -- Kaleb C. Striplin/Claremore, OK 89 560SEL, 87 300SDL, 85 380SE, 85 300D, 84 250 LWB, 83 300TD, 81 300TD, 81 240D, 81 240D, 76 450SEL, 76 240D, 76 300D, 74 240D, 69 250 Okie Benz Auto parts-email for used parts ___ For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://striplin.net/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_striplin.net -- Clay Seattle Bioburner 1972 220D - Gump 1995 E300D - Cleo 1987 300SDL - POS - DOA The FSM would drive a Diesel Benz ___ For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://striplin.net/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_striplin.net -- No virus found in this incoming message. Checked by AVG Anti-Virus. Version: 7.0.338 / Virus Database: 267.14.1/206 - Release Date: 16/12/2005
Re: [MBZ] W140 transmission no 3rd.
Could a valve be stuck open? - Original Message - From: Marshall Booth [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: Mercedes mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Saturday, December 24, 2005 5:18 AM Subject: Re: [MBZ] W140 transmission no 3rd. dave walton wrote: 1994 S350. My wife runs errands yesterday am without issue. I take it out yesterday pm and it won't shift into 3rd. Just tried it again. Same symptom. Reverse works fine. Neutral is where it should be. Shift lever feels the same. It goes into 2nd at 2400rpm and 15mph. I take it to 3000rpm at 35mph and no shift into 3rd. 3500rpm and still no shift. No noises, no vibration. Fluid level okay. According to my notes, it's a 140.134 chassis, 603.971 engine, with a 722.367 transmission. A stuck kick down button can do that. Then it will shift when the engine speed approaches the redline. If it's not the kickdown switch or the cable linkage, then it starts to get expensive. Marshall -- Marshall Booth (who doesn't respond to unsigned questions) der Dieseling Doktor [EMAIL PROTECTED] '87 300TD 182Kmi, '84 190D 2.2 229Kmi, '85 190D 2.0 161Kmi, '87 190D 2.5 turbo 237kmi ___ For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://striplin.net/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_striplin.net -- No virus found in this incoming message. Checked by AVG Anti-Virus. Version: 7.0.338 / Virus Database: 267.14.5/212 - Release Date: 23/12/2005
Re: [MBZ] Heckflosse
Now to the Body it left the Factory with the MB 040G Black paint over the years somebody painted it cooper and the last owner painted it teal for over $1600.00 The pain is still very good and has plenty of shine left. HaHaHa By the looks of the paint job a 10 year old with a couple of dozen aerosol cans did the $1600 paint job. Looks like the copper paint job was done better but not much. If I paid $1600 for the that paint job I would still be in pain too:-) Hendrik - Original Message - From: Kaleb C. Striplin [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: Banned List [EMAIL PROTECTED]; Mercedes mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED]; [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Tuesday, December 27, 2005 10:51 AM Subject: [MBZ] Heckflosse http://cgi.ebay.com/ebaymotors/Mercedes-Benz-200-Series-1966-Mercedes-Heckflosse_W0QQitemZ4599869623QQcategoryZ6329QQrdZ1QQcmdZViewItem -- Kaleb C. Striplin/Claremore, OK 89 560SEL, 87 300SDL, 85 380SE, 85 300D, 84 250 LWB, 83 300TD, 81 300TD, 81 240D, 81 240D, 76 450SEL, 76 240D, 76 300D, 74 240D, 69 250 http://www.striplin.net ___ http://www.striplin.net For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://striplin.net/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_striplin.net -- No virus found in this incoming message. Checked by AVG Anti-Virus. Version: 7.0.338 / Virus Database: 267.14.5/212 - Release Date: 23/12/2005
Re: [MBZ] Mud Flaps
Over here the dealers still sell flappers for the 123's. Well they did a couple of years ago when I was after a couple. Came in a nice DC box with all the things required to fit them on without having to drill holes. From memory they where not that expensive either. Hendrik mud flaps front and rear (on the car that is) - Original Message - From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Thursday, December 29, 2005 7:05 AM Subject: [MBZ] Mud Flaps Howdy - Recently I asked the list for a source for mud flaps for W123's without success. I eventually found some on eBay and rec'd them today. The rubber is pretty thick with a MB Star on it. They were 30 UK #'sterling which includes shipping to the US. I haven't installed them yet and I may buy a pair for the front wheels. I've always liked the look of the W123 with Mud Flaps - They were item # 8021705461 in case you want to take a look at them -- they also carry MF's for other cars. Sincerely, Larry T (78 240D - 286k) ___ http://www.striplin.net For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://striplin.net/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_striplin.net -- No virus found in this incoming message. Checked by AVG Anti-Virus. Version: 7.0.338 / Virus Database: 267.14.5/212 - Release Date: 23/12/2005
Re: [MBZ] Mud Flaps
Helps to keep the grime/dirt/stone-chips off the car. I am not a great fan of car washing, so anything to keep it cleaner for longer is fine with me. Obviously putting mud flaps on a exotic Merc is a bit lame but on a daily driver not a prob. The ones on the front are off my old 200 and seem to be a little odd because they are molded to fit into the wheel arch but they look alright and do the job. Unfortunatley the PO's did not believe in flaps so there are stone chips on the bottom of the car. Hendrik - Original Message - From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: Mercedes Discussion List [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Thursday, December 29, 2005 9:54 AM Subject: Re: [MBZ] Mud Flaps You wrote:mud flaps front and rear Do you find it helpful to have them on the front also? I was considering that if the rears are as nice as they look. Sincerely, Larry T (78 240D) A Blood Test for your oil - www.youroil.net For Test Results http://members.rennlist.com/oil Weber Carb Stuff http://members.rennlist.com/webercarbs http://members.rennlist.com/my_911/Index.htm For my Paint Job Info - Original Message - From: Hendrik Riessen [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: Mercedes Discussion List [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Wednesday, December 28, 2005 5:43 PM Subject: Re: [MBZ] Mud Flaps Over here the dealers still sell flappers for the 123's. Well they did a couple of years ago when I was after a couple. Came in a nice DC box with all the things required to fit them on without having to drill holes. From memory they where not that expensive either. Hendrik mud flaps front and rear (on the car that is) - Original Message - From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Thursday, December 29, 2005 7:05 AM Subject: [MBZ] Mud Flaps Howdy - Recently I asked the list for a source for mud flaps for W123's without success. I eventually found some on eBay and rec'd them today. The rubber is pretty thick with a MB Star on it. They were 30 UK #'sterling which includes shipping to the US. I haven't installed them yet and I may buy a pair for the front wheels. I've always liked the look of the W123 with Mud Flaps - They were item # 8021705461 in case you want to take a look at them -- they also carry MF's for other cars. Sincerely, Larry T (78 240D - 286k) ___ http://www.striplin.net For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://striplin.net/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_striplin.net -- No virus found in this incoming message. Checked by AVG Anti-Virus. Version: 7.0.338 / Virus Database: 267.14.5/212 - Release Date: 23/12/2005 ___ http://www.striplin.net For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://striplin.net/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_striplin.net ___ http://www.striplin.net For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://striplin.net/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_striplin.net -- No virus found in this incoming message. Checked by AVG Anti-Virus. Version: 7.0.338 / Virus Database: 267.14.5/212 - Release Date: 23/12/2005
Re: [MBZ] Hello??
No, we have all died from over eating. Hendrik speaking from the after life - Original Message - From: Luther Gulseth [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Thursday, December 29, 2005 8:04 AM Subject: [MBZ] Hello?? anyone out there??? Alive? Luther KB5QHU Alma, Ark '83 300SD (happily running diesel/WVO mix) '82 300CD slate grey, black interior, 152,xxx mi ___ http://www.striplin.net For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://striplin.net/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_striplin.net -- No virus found in this incoming message. Checked by AVG Anti-Virus. Version: 7.0.338 / Virus Database: 267.14.5/212 - Release Date: 23/12/2005
Re: [MBZ] WTF?
Ooooh I like them and in my size too. Although they say driving in high heels is dangerous, I have never had any problems. Hendrik - Original Message - From: Brian Baker [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: Mercedes Discussion List [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Thursday, December 29, 2005 2:58 PM Subject: Re: [MBZ] WTF? Those would be worth some money if the seller would have cleaned her boyfriends vomit from them before taking the photo. Brian from Columbia MO 82 240D 289,3XX (currently buzzing happily along) - Original Message - From: Mitch Haley [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: Mercedes Discussion List [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Wednesday, December 28, 2005 10:17 PM Subject: Re: [MBZ] WTF? Ideal's branching out, not just MBZ parts anymore. http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItemitem=7734298269 ___ http://www.striplin.net For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://striplin.net/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_striplin.net -- No virus found in this incoming message. Checked by AVG Anti-Virus. Version: 7.0.338 / Virus Database: 267.14.5/212 - Release Date: 23/12/2005
Re: [MBZ] oh my!!
I'm amazed that the seller admits to painting it that colour. Usally it was the PO who did it. Hendrik - Original Message - From: Kaleb C. Striplin [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: Banned List [EMAIL PROTECTED]; Mercedes mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Thursday, December 29, 2005 2:25 PM Subject: [MBZ] oh my!! http://cgi.ebay.com/ebaymotors/Mercedes-Benz-200-Series-1974-Mercedes-240-D_W0QQitemZ4600525340QQcategoryZ6329QQrdZ1QQcmdZViewItem -- Kaleb C. Striplin/Claremore, OK 89 560SEL, 87 300SDL, 85 380SE, 85 300D, 84 250 LWB, 83 300TD, 81 300TD, 81 240D, 81 240D, 76 450SEL, 76 240D, 76 300D, 74 240D, 69 250 http://www.striplin.net ___ http://www.striplin.net For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://striplin.net/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_striplin.net -- No virus found in this incoming message. Checked by AVG Anti-Virus. Version: 7.0.338 / Virus Database: 267.14.5/212 - Release Date: 23/12/2005
Re: [MBZ] Hello??
OMG Hans who put that grille on the E class? I have seen stuff done like this in parts of Asia. Hendrik with ze standard as intended grille (well it has a Xmas wreath on it at the moment) but hopefully soon to have clear indicators - Original Message - From: Hans Neureiter [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: Mercedes Discussion List [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Friday, December 30, 2005 5:31 AM Subject: Re: [MBZ] Hello?? The pictures are there: http://www.geocities.com/hneureiter/diesel_n_bikes.html follow the link to the Mercedes pic's. On 12/28/05, Kaleb C. Striplin [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: pics? Hans Neureiter wrote: Here! I think I'm alive, 'cause I'm hurting. Got my SD back from the paintshop and had to put all the lights, bumpers and what not back on. Looks like a brand new 24 year old beauty. On 12/28/05, Luther Gulseth [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: anyone out there??? Alive? Luther KB5QHU Alma, Ark '83 300SD (happily running diesel/WVO mix) '82 300CD slate grey, black interior, 152,xxx mi ___ http://www.striplin.net For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://striplin.net/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_striplin.net -- Hans Neureiter, Houston, TX '82 300SD, '95 E300D ___ http://www.striplin.net For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://striplin.net/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_striplin.net -- Kaleb C. Striplin/Claremore, OK 89 560SEL, 87 300SDL, 85 380SE, 85 300D, 84 250 LWB, 83 300TD, 81 300TD, 81 240D, 81 240D, 76 450SEL, 76 240D, 76 300D, 74 240D, 69 250 http://www.striplin.net ___ http://www.striplin.net For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://striplin.net/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_striplin.net -- Hans Neureiter, Houston, TX '82 300SD, '95 E300D ___ http://www.striplin.net For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://striplin.net/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_striplin.net -- Internal Virus Database is out-of-date. Checked by AVG Anti-Virus. Version: 7.0.338 / Virus Database: 267.14.5/212 - Release Date: 23/12/2005
Re: [MBZ] Tire pressure gauge
Cheapskates like me use the one down at the servo, plus they give me free compressed air if I require it. Now they have the digital one where you pre-select the pressure, whack on the hose and then wait for the beep beep beep. Great unless some idiot has run it over. Hendrik the cheapskate who might invest in his own gauge when I get my own compressed air - Original Message - From: David Brodbeck [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: Mercedes Discussion List [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Friday, December 30, 2005 8:46 AM Subject: Re: [MBZ] Tire pressure gauge Craig McCluskey wrote: My old, pencil-style tire pressure gauge has started sticking and is producing unreliable readings. Any thoughts on what is a good tire pressure gauge, or how to prolong the life of the one I have? I kind of like the little digital ones. They're cheaply available at most big box and auto parts stores. Unlike dial-type gauges, they usually hold the reading for a few seconds so you don't have to try to hold the gauge on the valve and read it at the same time. I figure their accuracy can't be any worse than the pencil type gauges, which are notoriously bad. ___ http://www.striplin.net For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://striplin.net/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_striplin.net -- No virus found in this incoming message. Checked by AVG Anti-Virus. Version: 7.0.338 / Virus Database: 267.14.9/216 - Release Date: 29/12/2005
Re: [MBZ] Tire pressure gauge
I do shop around and not just go to the same one. Also I can tell within a couple of pounds how much pressure is in the tyre by looking at the bulge at the bottom. There is no point in having a gauge if there is no compressed air to fix the problem. Years ago when I was working in the bush at harvest time checking the truck and trailer tyre pressure was a real pain because the dust in the rims would blow in my face while checking the pressures. That and being sweaty, I would end up looking pretty grubby after 18 tyres at 90-100psi. However better that than losing a tyre and having the boss check all the wheels himself to find low pressures. Hendrik - Original Message - From: David Brodbeck [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: Mercedes Discussion List [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Friday, December 30, 2005 1:58 PM Subject: Re: [MBZ] Tire pressure gauge Hendrik Riessen wrote: Cheapskates like me use the one down at the servo, plus they give me free compressed air if I require it. I checked the mechanical gauge on the compressor at the 7-11 against my digital gauge. Theirs read 10 psi low! Looked like it had maybe been run over a few times. ___ http://www.striplin.net For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://striplin.net/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_striplin.net -- No virus found in this incoming message. Checked by AVG Anti-Virus. Version: 7.0.338 / Virus Database: 267.14.9/216 - Release Date: 29/12/2005
Re: [MBZ] WTF?
Yes it does. I think ebay protocol dictates that the seller leaves feedback after receiving payment and the buyer leaves feedback after receiving the goods. Otherwise it turns into intimidation. Hendrik - Original Message - From: Kaleb C. Striplin [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: Mercedes Discussion List [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Friday, December 30, 2005 3:10 PM Subject: Re: [MBZ] WTF? I dont leave feedback till its left for me, does that make me a sleezebag? Robert Tara Ludwick wrote: You'll notice though that the sleezebag sellers will never leave feedback until you do, those clowns are just laying in wait to retaliate for what they know is coming for their lieing. -Robert -- Kaleb C. Striplin/Claremore, OK 89 560SEL, 87 300SDL, 85 380SE, 85 300D, 84 250 LWB, 83 300TD, 81 300TD, 81 240D, 81 240D, 76 450SEL, 76 240D, 76 300D, 74 240D, 69 250 http://www.striplin.net ___ http://www.striplin.net For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://striplin.net/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_striplin.net -- No virus found in this incoming message. Checked by AVG Anti-Virus. Version: 7.0.338 / Virus Database: 267.14.9/216 - Release Date: 29/12/2005
Re: [MBZ] Absurd price for a 240D!
Looks like the 240D is a VERY nice older car:-) Wonder what the reserve is? Anyway not good news that older sedans are starting to rake in the cash. Where are bargain bin shoppers like me supposed to source good 123's at a very reasonable price? Hendrik - Original Message - From: Craig McCluskey [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: mercedes [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Friday, December 30, 2005 4:09 PM Subject: [MBZ] Absurd price for a 240D! http://cgi.ebay.com/ebaymotors/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItemrd=1,1item=4599527624sspagename=STRK%3AMEWA%3AIT Granted the car has only 10777 miles, but $22,100 could buy a VERY nice newer car! Craig ___ http://www.striplin.net For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://striplin.net/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_striplin.net -- No virus found in this incoming message. Checked by AVG Anti-Virus. Version: 7.0.338 / Virus Database: 267.14.9/216 - Release Date: 29/12/2005
Re: [MBZ] Official CLub 123D Info
G'day Vince, Good to see another 123 nut on the forum, I have a 84 230E and a 230TE that I am taking apart (mainly for the 5 speed). If you want to check out the Oz scene have a look at our little Benz community at http://forum.mbspares.com.au/ with a area just for us 123 people. Hendrik in a hot Adelaide (was 42 degrees C yesterday) - Original Message - From: V Layton [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Friday, December 30, 2005 7:10 PM Subject: [MBZ] Official CLub 123D Info Hello to all the Mercedes fans here at Striplin.net! This is my first post here and I'm sorry it took me awhile to contribute, SNIPPED
Re: [MBZ] Plymouth-Dakar Race
Scroll down to see a real 123 rally machine, using a diesel in a rally is a bit slow. http://www.mbspares.com.au/default.asp?d=110427p=17935 Hendrik who wants one of those 280E machines - Original Message - From: TimothyPilgrim [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: Mercedes Discussion List [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Saturday, December 31, 2005 12:37 AM Subject: [MBZ] Plymouth-Dakar Race Interested in adventure/endurance road/slightly-offroad racing like the annual Dakar? Ain't got the cash? Try this. Rules include no more than 100 (Brit lbs) for the car. http://www.plymouth-dakar.co.uk/ There are a few W123's in there if you click through the group lists on the left. Tim ___ http://www.striplin.net For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://striplin.net/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_striplin.net -- No virus found in this incoming message. Checked by AVG Anti-Virus. Version: 7.0.338 / Virus Database: 267.14.9/216 - Release Date: 29/12/2005
Re: [MBZ] WTF?
I have had a couple like that just recently, at the mo I've bought a couple of clear indicator assemblies and the seller has left feedback already, even though the indicators (according to Fedex) have not even left the states. A decent seller should leave feedback once he/she has what they are after (money). Otherwise they are withholding feedback to try and intimidate the buyer into leaving good feedback. Unfortunately however that is the way the feedback system is going. Anyway ebay is full of con artists at best and downright crooks at worst and every vehicle in which the A/C is not working just needs a recharge:-) Hendrik - Original Message - From: David Brodbeck [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: Mercedes Discussion List [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Saturday, December 31, 2005 2:19 PM Subject: Re: [MBZ] WTF? Hendrik Riessen wrote: Yes it does. I think ebay protocol dictates that the seller leaves feedback after receiving payment and the buyer leaves feedback after receiving the goods. Otherwise it turns into intimidation. I've literally never seen a transaction go that way. Generally the buyer leaves feedback once they're satisfied (or not) with the merchandise, then the seller leaves feedback. You really don't know whether someone's a good buyer or not until they've gotten the stuff. Just because they paid doesn't mean they won't try to weasel out of it later. ___ http://www.striplin.net For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://striplin.net/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_striplin.net -- No virus found in this incoming message. Checked by AVG Anti-Virus. Version: 7.0.338 / Virus Database: 267.14.9/216 - Release Date: 29/12/2005
Re: [MBZ] S-Class
That should read scores for Daimler Chrysler products where no better. A Benz is something that used to be made by a company called Mercedes-Benz. Hendrik with a few Benzes out the front and no DC rubbish - Original Message - From: Bob Rentfro [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: Mercedes Discussion List [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Sunday, January 01, 2006 12:52 PM Subject: Re: [MBZ] S-Class Our pal redghost typed: Was reading the 06 Consumer report book at the in laws this week. Scores for Benz were no better than scrap metal for anything 98 on. That's what I heard as well. Which cars had the good dots? Still Toyota? Acura? Bob Rentfro '77 300D 146K Litchfield Park, AZ ___ http://www.striplin.net For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://striplin.net/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_striplin.net No virus found in this incoming message. Checked by AVG Anti-Virus. Version: 7.0.338 / Virus Database: 267.14.9/216 - Release Date: 29/12/2005
Re: [MBZ] the warp drive mystery
Well...it may be the filter. If it is old, change it. However there are other possibilities such as blocked screen in the fuel tank (not likely due to the suddenness of the problem). Weak fuel pump (not likely due to the suddenness of the problem). From there things get more tricky (more likely). Is it the CIS or CIS/E (K or KE) jetronic injection system? What troubles me is the suddenness of the problem (am I repeating myself?), if it was filter related I would expect a gradual loss of performance unless some really filthy fuel went into the system. The oilers will agree that blocked filters come on slowly and not just one day I was zipping along and the next day it was no go. Agreed that if the engine revs with external fuel delivery then ignition and air supply problems can be ruled out, so back to the fuel system. Have you checked the throttle linkages to ensure they can move their full amount of travel (the throttle flap should move about 80 degrees)? Have you checked the sensor plate for ease of movement? When pushed down there should be slight resistance all the way down and then should snap shut. You can also push down the sensor plate with the motor idling, it should stall. The only real way of diagnosing the system is with fuel pressure gauges, which I don't have. Anyway you can try changing fuel filters but I have a feeling there might be bigger probs. This is a nice overview of the system http://www.auto-solve.com/mech_inj.htm some more things that could be wrong http://www.forparts.com/techbosKjectronic.htm Hendrik - Original Message - From: Trampas [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: 'Mercedes Discussion List' [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Monday, January 02, 2006 6:23 AM Subject: Re: [MBZ] the warp drive mystery Good to know that you have it figured out! Trampas -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Kaleb C. Striplin Sent: Sunday, January 01, 2006 2:04 PM To: Mercedes mailing list; Banned List Subject: [MBZ] the warp drive mystery Well I went over to my dads where I stashed the car and loaded it up on the trailer. Decided to use the 6.2 suburban instead of the usual 1 ton 6.5 turbodiesel to haul it back home. Boy is there a difference in towing. With the 6.5 turbo, I dont even know there is a fully loaded trailer hooked on the back. With the 6.2, I know its there. Still tows fine though. Anyways, back to the 380. Barely had enough power to load on the trailer. Once home, I took the air cleaner off and fired her up. Of course wouldnt rev up past about 2k in neutral. Brought out the gas can and just putting the nozzle over the throttle body cause it to be able to rev up. just from the fumes. Poured a couple of drops down it and she revved all the way up. The conclusion is the filter has to be plugged up. I guess running it so lean trying to keep up speed was enough to superheat the exhaust. Doesnt appear anything is wrong with the exhaust that I can tell. -- Kaleb C. Striplin/Claremore, OK 89 560SEL, 87 300SDL, 85 380SE, 85 300D, 84 250 LWB, 83 300TD, 81 300TD, 81 240D, 81 240D, 76 450SEL, 76 240D, 76 300D, 74 240D, 69 250 http://www.striplin.net ___ http://www.striplin.net For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://striplin.net/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_striplin.net ___ http://www.striplin.net For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://striplin.net/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_striplin.net -- No virus found in this incoming message. Checked by AVG Anti-Virus. Version: 7.0.338 / Virus Database: 267.14.9/216 - Release Date: 29/12/2005
Re: [MBZ] '72 280SE 4.5
Check for rust. If it has a aftermarket turbo fitted, I would pass. MB never turboed those engines, hmmmnh wonder why? Did I mention to check for rust? If it is in good condition without a turbo then it is worth the money as these cars have pretty much reached value bottom and are only going to go up. The 4.5 is also desirable because it puts out a fair bit of grunt without the bigger maintenance costs of the 6.3. Do you know anything about the D-jetronic fuel injection system? I take it from what the seller wrote that it is not running or running very badly. Make sure you get under the car and check for rust. Hendrik - Original Message - From: Desert Rat [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: Mercedes Discussion List [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Monday, January 02, 2006 9:10 AM Subject: Re: [MBZ] '72 280SE 4.5 What the heck is up with the turbocharger? On 1/1/06, Bob Rentfro [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: http://phoenix.craigslist.org/car/120224368.html How does this look...those of you familiar with this model. I emailed the dude and he still has it. He says Yes I do. I just happened to be answering emails when yours came in. Here is some additional info for those FAQ's. The MB does still have the original tranny and engine with only 106,797 miles. It still has the original interior upholstery and exterior paint, also. The engine does need some minor work but the main things are a fuel pump and ignition switch. We have a couple of people very interested but we will not hold it, so, it is still available to the first buyer. It really is a nice car. If you have any more questions, please call me. What do yous guys think? Bob Rentfro '77 300D 146K Litchfield Park, AZ ___ http://www.striplin.net For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://striplin.net/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_striplin.net -- John Freer Palm Springs, CA 1992 500 SEL 140K Stardust 1985 380SL 145K Blue Belle ___ http://www.striplin.net For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://striplin.net/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_striplin.net -- No virus found in this incoming message. Checked by AVG Anti-Virus. Version: 7.0.338 / Virus Database: 267.14.9/216 - Release Date: 29/12/2005
Re: [MBZ] the warp drive mystery
Yes a reduction in power but without load the motor will still go to the redline, that's about 1500rpm in a 240D isn't it? Hendrik - Original Message - From: Curt Raymond [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Monday, January 02, 2006 9:46 AM Subject: Re: [MBZ] the warp drive mystery The oilers will agree that blocked filters come on slowly and not just one day I was zipping along and the next day it was no go. Actually one day about 2 years into owning my 240D I noticed a SEVERE reduction in power that changing the filters fixed right away. I'd let the tank get much lower than ever before a day or two before and I guess it just took a day to really pack all the crud into the filter. A 240D with a bad filter is a DRAG. -Curt - Yahoo! for Good - Make a difference this year. ___ http://www.striplin.net For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://striplin.net/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_striplin.net -- No virus found in this incoming message. Checked by AVG Anti-Virus. Version: 7.0.338 / Virus Database: 267.14.9/216 - Release Date: 29/12/2005
Re: [MBZ] the warp drive mystery
Hopefully yes but don't get too excited, if you where talking diesel engine I would agree but seeing as this is not.. Anyway keep us up to date. Also I think round about 1985 the change over to KE started, the KE systems have an oxygen sensor in the exhaust system and a pile more electrical crap. Hendrik - Original Message - From: Kaleb C. Striplin [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: Mercedes Discussion List [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Monday, January 02, 2006 9:39 AM Subject: Re: [MBZ] the warp drive mystery The linkage all moves fine. The filter has not been changed so its probably about 90% sure to be the problem. Thats the first step for sure. Its CIS/K I think, but not sure. And yes, the sensor plate feels just like its supposed to. Hendrik Riessen wrote: Well...it may be the filter. If it is old, change it. However
Re: [MBZ] the warp drive mystery
You're on your own. Hendrik - Original Message - From: Kaleb C. Striplin [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: Mercedes Discussion List [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Monday, January 02, 2006 10:16 AM Subject: Re: [MBZ] the warp drive mystery this one does have an o2 sensor. Hendrik Riessen wrote: Hopefully yes but don't get too excited, if you where talking diesel engine I would agree but seeing as this is not.. Anyway keep us up to date. Also I think round about 1985 the change over to KE started, the KE systems have an oxygen sensor in the exhaust system and a pile more electrical crap. Hendrik - Original Message - From: Kaleb C. Striplin [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: Mercedes Discussion List [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Monday, January 02, 2006 9:39 AM Subject: Re: [MBZ] the warp drive mystery The linkage all moves fine. The filter has not been changed so its probably about 90% sure to be the problem. Thats the first step for sure. Its CIS/K I think, but not sure. And yes, the sensor plate feels just like its supposed to. Hendrik Riessen wrote: Well...it may be the filter. If it is old, change it. However ___ http://www.striplin.net For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://striplin.net/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_striplin.net -- Kaleb C. Striplin/Claremore, OK 89 560SEL, 87 300SDL, 85 380SE, 85 300D, 84 250 LWB, 83 300TD, 81 300TD, 81 240D, 81 240D, 76 450SEL, 76 240D, 76 300D, 74 240D, 69 250 http://www.striplin.net ___ http://www.striplin.net For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://striplin.net/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_striplin.net -- No virus found in this incoming message. Checked by AVG Anti-Virus. Version: 7.0.338 / Virus Database: 267.14.9/216 - Release Date: 29/12/2005
Re: [MBZ] the warp drive mystery
Couple of links to help you determine what you have created http://www.boschautoparts.co.uk/pcPetr11.asp?c=2d=1 http://covintechnical.pwp.blueyonder.co.uk/tech_2.htm http://www.aicautosite.com/garage/encyclop/ency07c.asp Hendrik - Original Message - From: Hendrik Riessen [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: Mercedes Discussion List [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Monday, January 02, 2006 11:50 AM Subject: Re: [MBZ] the warp drive mystery You're on your own. Hendrik - Original Message - From: Kaleb C. Striplin [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: Mercedes Discussion List [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Monday, January 02, 2006 10:16 AM Subject: Re: [MBZ] the warp drive mystery this one does have an o2 sensor. Hendrik Riessen wrote: Hopefully yes but don't get too excited, if you where talking diesel engine I would agree but seeing as this is not.. Anyway keep us up to date. Also I think round about 1985 the change over to KE started, the KE systems have an oxygen sensor in the exhaust system and a pile more electrical crap. Hendrik - Original Message - From: Kaleb C. Striplin [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: Mercedes Discussion List [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Monday, January 02, 2006 9:39 AM Subject: Re: [MBZ] the warp drive mystery The linkage all moves fine. The filter has not been changed so its probably about 90% sure to be the problem. Thats the first step for sure. Its CIS/K I think, but not sure. And yes, the sensor plate feels just like its supposed to. Hendrik Riessen wrote: Well...it may be the filter. If it is old, change it. However ___ http://www.striplin.net For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://striplin.net/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_striplin.net -- Kaleb C. Striplin/Claremore, OK 89 560SEL, 87 300SDL, 85 380SE, 85 300D, 84 250 LWB, 83 300TD, 81 300TD, 81 240D, 81 240D, 76 450SEL, 76 240D, 76 300D, 74 240D, 69 250 http://www.striplin.net ___ http://www.striplin.net For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://striplin.net/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_striplin.net -- No virus found in this incoming message. Checked by AVG Anti-Virus. Version: 7.0.338 / Virus Database: 267.14.9/216 - Release Date: 29/12/2005 ___ http://www.striplin.net For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://striplin.net/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_striplin.net -- No virus found in this incoming message. Checked by AVG Anti-Virus. Version: 7.0.338 / Virus Database: 267.14.9/216 - Release Date: 29/12/2005
Re: [MBZ] '72 280SE 4.5
Well, if this thing has a factory turbo motor I would suggest you get yourself down there with the dosh and don't haggle. Factory M117 turboed motor. Wonder how much that is worth? If it is factory, don't run the motor just get it trailered back to your place. Hendrik - Original Message - From: Bob Rentfro [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: Mercedes Discussion List [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Monday, January 02, 2006 1:35 PM Subject: Re: [MBZ] '72 280SE 4.5 So this has a turbo? Is this dude a Craigslist crack smoker? Is this someting to run from? I love gleaning knowledge from all y'all. Bob Rentfro '77 300D 146K Litchfield Park, AZ - Original Message - From: OK Don [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: Mercedes Discussion List [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Sunday, January 01, 2006 7:40 PM Subject: Re: [MBZ] '72 280SE 4.5 Mercedes did turbocharge the 117 4.5 litre engine - in the C111, and set several world records with it. They did this after setting all those DIesel records with the turbo'd 617, and after porche stole a record from them. Got it back with the C111/117. On 1/1/06, Peter Frederick [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Turbocharger? Not a chance, unless someone has swapped in a 617 turbodiesel instead of the V8. -- OK Don, KD5NRO Norman, OK '90 300D, '87 300SDL, '81 240D, '78 450SLC The FSM created the Diesel Benz http://www.venganza.org/ ___ http://www.striplin.net For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://striplin.net/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_striplin.net ___ http://www.striplin.net For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://striplin.net/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_striplin.net -- No virus found in this incoming message. Checked by AVG Anti-Virus. Version: 7.0.338 / Virus Database: 267.14.9/216 - Release Date: 29/12/2005
Re: [MBZ] [Banned] Wet yourself cool!!!!
Maybe he is using the vergasser as a test bed to build a proper engine:-) One running on nitro that is:-):-) Hendrik - Original Message - From: OK Don [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: Mercedes Discussion List [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Monday, January 02, 2006 1:40 PM Subject: Re: [MBZ] [Banned] Wet yourself cool Talk about a PROJECT! That engine is complicated! However, it is a spark vergasser, even though he modeled it from a Diesel -- heresy! On 1/1/06, M. Mitchell Marmel [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: At 5:27 PM -0800 1/1/06, redghost wrote: http://www.craftsmanshipmuseum.com/Tomlinson.htm Nce. :9 -MMM- -- OK Don, KD5NRO Norman, OK '90 300D, '87 300SDL, '81 240D, '78 450SLC The FSM created the Diesel Benz http://www.venganza.org/ ___ http://www.striplin.net For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://striplin.net/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_striplin.net -- No virus found in this incoming message. Checked by AVG Anti-Virus. Version: 7.0.338 / Virus Database: 267.14.9/216 - Release Date: 29/12/2005
Re: [MBZ] '72 280SE 4.5
Apparently the factory did not think the 4.5 went fast enough, hence the 6.3. Now lets try putting a turbo on a M100 and then making it fitinto a truck maybe:-) Hendrik - Original Message - From: Peter Frederick [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: Mercedes Discussion List [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Monday, January 02, 2006 2:19 PM Subject: Re: [MBZ] '72 280SE 4.5 May be, but NOT in a W108 chassis! There's barely room for the exhaust, let alone turbo piping, and it goes fast enough as it is -- I have one. The 617 swap was fairly common in Germany -- reduced the taxed considerably and didn't take too much off performance. Peter ___ http://www.striplin.net For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://striplin.net/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_striplin.net -- No virus found in this incoming message. Checked by AVG Anti-Virus. Version: 7.0.338 / Virus Database: 267.14.9/216 - Release Date: 29/12/2005
Re: [MBZ] '72 280SE 4.5
According to a pretty reliable source ALL (sorry Marshall couldn't resist) Mercedes V8 engines came with fuel injection. Hendrik with no V8's :-( - Original Message - From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Monday, January 02, 2006 2:39 PM Subject: Re: [MBZ] '72 280SE 4.5 Bob, It looks pretty nice and I like that cream yellow color. They claim the 72-73s were the last hand built Mercedes. Very stout and safe as a vault. The gearing was pretty low (3.69:1) and the engine runs pretty fast so performance is good but mileage is affected and it would be tough to get better than 15 town, 20 highway. Make sure it has fuel injection. The low horsepower 280s had dual carbs that were not as desirable. I sure don't know if the turbocharger could be for real, but stranger things have happpened. I had a 65 Euro 300SE with a four speed stick that ran (and looked) like a gangster car. Lot of fun to wing that big six up to 6 grand in the gears! Regards, Jim Friesen Phoenix AZ 79 300SD, 261 K miles 98 ML 320, 139 K miles ___ http://www.striplin.net For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://striplin.net/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_striplin.net -- No virus found in this incoming message. Checked by AVG Anti-Virus. Version: 7.0.338 / Virus Database: 267.14.9/216 - Release Date: 29/12/2005
Re: [MBZ] '72 280SE 4.5
When I said get under the car I actually meant get down next to it with a torch and check the underside (getting under a car without it being properly secured is dangerous and dumb). Might want to take a water proof mat or tarp to lie down on. Also I take it for that sort of money there are not too many documents that go with the car? I also would try and get the seller on the phone and promise to you, that it is not a rust heap. Sucks driving half way across town to look at rust:-( Hendrik who hates rust in all shapes and forms - Original Message - From: Hendrik Riessen [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: Mercedes Discussion List [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Monday, January 02, 2006 10:01 AM Subject: Re: [MBZ] '72 280SE 4.5 Check for rust. If it has a aftermarket turbo fitted, I would pass. MB never turboed those engines, hmmmnh wonder why? Did I mention to check for rust? If it is in good condition without a turbo then it is worth the money as these cars have pretty much reached value bottom and are only going to go up. The 4.5 is also desirable because it puts out a fair bit of grunt without the bigger maintenance costs of the 6.3. Do you know anything about the D-jetronic fuel injection system? I take it from what the seller wrote that it is not running or running very badly. Make sure you get under the car and check for rust. Hendrik
Re: [MBZ] first car list of 06
Yeah I like that model too, lots of round curves with a touch of style. Wonder why they put the picture of that Lady in there? Hendrik - Original Message - From: L. Mark Finch [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: Mercedes Discussion List [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Tuesday, January 03, 2006 12:04 PM Subject: Re: [MBZ] first car list of 06 The phrase desirable model comes to mind On Jan 1, 2006, at 9:53 PM, redghost wrote: http://seattle.craigslist.org/car/121330044.html -- 58 180D Ponton _ L. Mark Finch Indianapolis 1982 300D Turbodiesel ___ http://www.striplin.net For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://striplin.net/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_striplin.net -- No virus found in this incoming message. Checked by AVG Anti-Virus. Version: 7.0.338 / Virus Database: 267.14.9/216 - Release Date: 29/12/2005
Re: [MBZ] this would be a good project car, euro 123 stick
83? That steering wheel belongs in a earlier model, also the headlights should be the 280E style ones but I could be wrong and very early 83's still came out had the round ones (poor lighting). Also I doubt wether the bottom end is the cause of the noise unless severly overheted or run with low/no oil. Timing chain and valves are a problem in those motors but the bottom end is pretty well build. Hendrik with an 84 auto which I am planning on manualising - Original Message - From: Kaleb C. Striplin [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: Banned List [EMAIL PROTECTED]; Mercedes mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Wednesday, January 04, 2006 12:13 PM Subject: [MBZ] this would be a good project car, euro 123 stick http://cgi.ebay.com/ebaymotors/Mercedes-Benz-200-Series-1983-Mercedes-Benz-230E-EURO-import-w-motor-noise_W0QQitemZ4601547150QQcategoryZ6329QQrdZ1QQcmdZViewItem -- Kaleb C. Striplin/Claremore, OK 89 560SEL, 87 300SDL, 85 380SE, 85 300D, 84 250 LWB, 83 300TD, 81 300TD, 81 240D, 81 240D, 76 450SEL, 76 240D, 76 300D, 74 240D, 69 250 http://www.striplin.net ___ http://www.striplin.net For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://striplin.net/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_striplin.net -- No virus found in this incoming message. Checked by AVG Anti-Virus. Version: 7.0.338 / Virus Database: 267.14.9/216 - Release Date: 29/12/2005
Re: [MBZ] Used Engines from Tri-Star
I think the only way is to get them to send you compression figures. Once the engine is running your end do another test to verify figures. Also make sure they give you the engine number of this low mileage engine, that way they at least know that you are not a no-nothing. You have to get the idea across to them that you know your stuff, that way they will rip-off some other person. Hendrik - Original Message - From: Brian Chase [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Wednesday, January 04, 2006 6:59 PM Subject: [MBZ] Used Engines from Tri-Star Listers, The wheels of action are finally grinding to a start in the resurrection of my 83 240D. I'm planning on purchasing a used engine tomorrow from Tri-Star in PHX. My auto is at the shop in Tucson, and awaiting shipment of the engine. Question: How can one really know that the proclaimed mileage on a used engine like this is anywhere near accurate? It would be in the best interest of the crooked parts outfit to claim to be selling a nice low-mileage engine, yet actually to deliver their highest-mileage engine. They are claiming to be selling me their lowest mileage 240 engine, but as I said, it would take some genuine honesty not to pull a bait switch. I know there's probably no answer to this question, but what have you all found in your experience? Bear in mind that I am no where near this outfit geographically and thus cannot do any physical investigation. Brian 83 240D _ Express yourself instantly with MSN Messenger! Download today - it's FREE! http://messenger.msn.click-url.com/go/onm00200471ave/direct/01/ ___ http://www.striplin.net For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://striplin.net/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_striplin.net -- No virus found in this incoming message. Checked by AVG Anti-Virus. Version: 7.0.338 / Virus Database: 267.14.9/216 - Release Date: 29/12/2005
Re: [MBZ] this would be a good project car, euro 123 stick
The basics should be the same, in 85/86 they went to the KE/CISE injection system. The 123's as far as I know always used the K/CIS injection system. Cold start valves and other parts of the K-jetronic system can give trouble but are generally easy to fix/replace. Fuel pumps is one of the things that gives out regularly on these types of fuel injection systems. It is recommended to strictly follow the oil change routines in the M102 motor with single timing chain. Other than that it is the usual 123 problems to look for. However a word of caution, if this vehicle has not been properly maintained and has no service history you may get more trouble than you budgeted on. There is a difference between used and abused and used and maintained. Hendrik - Original Message - From: Roger Conlon [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Wednesday, January 04, 2006 3:12 PM Subject: [MBZ] this would be a good project car, euro 123 stick -- SNIPPED Are engine parts readily available in the states for an Euro model He states that its the same motor as a US version 1984 190E Any thing to look out for with this model/car Roger _ Express yourself instantly with MSN Messenger! Download today - it's FREE! http://messenger.msn.click-url.com/go/onm00200471ave/direct/01/ ___ http://www.striplin.net For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://striplin.net/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_striplin.net -- No virus found in this incoming message. Checked by AVG Anti-Virus. Version: 7.0.338 / Virus Database: 267.14.9/216 - Release Date: 29/12/2005
Re: [MBZ] this would be a good project car, euro 123 stick
No I have the all plastic ones, as well as no chrome on the cabin air intake grilles. This was part of the upgrade they had in 83(?) for the 123's. I think they where trying to wean the customers off chrome:-) ready for the124's. Also the bumpers got upgraded by a plastic bit at each end, my old 81 has a one piece bumper front and rear and chrome under the tailights. Wheras the 82 230TE has a three part bumper. Hendrik - Original Message - From: tom savage [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: Mercedes Discussion List [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Thursday, January 05, 2006 1:59 AM Subject: Re: [MBZ] this would be a good project car, euro 123 stick Hendrik Riessen wrote: However a word of caution, if this vehicle has not been properly maintained and has no service history you may get more trouble than you budgeted on. There is a difference between used and abused and used and maintained. This should be sent as an autoresponse to every I'm thinking of buying a... post. Hendrik, does your 230E have chrome tail light trim? I'm thinking that it only came on the 280s and the coupes in the world market, but I'm not sure. The car in question has it, as well as a US rear bumper, which says to me I've been hit in the rear. Caveat emptor, Tom ___ http://www.striplin.net For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://striplin.net/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_striplin.net -- No virus found in this incoming message. Checked by AVG Anti-Virus. Version: 7.0.338 / Virus Database: 267.14.12/220 - Release Date: 3/01/2006
Re: [MBZ] this would be a good project car, euro 123 stick
Early 123's had the flat one with ribs (a la 116/115/4) the later ones are a bit concave (a la 201/124). I think they where developed for the 126 chassis and found their way into the 123 round about 80/81. Hendrik - Original Message - From: andrew strasfogel [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: Mercedes Discussion List [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Thursday, January 05, 2006 3:48 AM Subject: Re: [MBZ] this would be a good project car, euro 123 stick What's different about the SW vs. a later 123 model? On 1/3/06, Hendrik Riessen [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: 83? That steering wheel belongs in a earlier model, also the headlights should be the 280E style ones but I could be wrong and very early 83's still came out had the round ones (poor lighting). Also I doubt wether the bottom end is the cause of the noise unless severly overheted or run with low/no oil. Timing chain and valves are a problem in those motors but the bottom end is pretty well build. Hendrik with an 84 auto which I am planning on manualising - Original Message - From: Kaleb C. Striplin [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: Banned List [EMAIL PROTECTED]; Mercedes mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Wednesday, January 04, 2006 12:13 PM Subject: [MBZ] this would be a good project car, euro 123 stick http://cgi.ebay.com/ebaymotors/Mercedes-Benz-200-Series-1983-Mercedes-Benz-230E-EURO-import-w-motor-noise_W0QQitemZ4601547150QQcategoryZ6329QQrdZ1QQcmdZViewItem -- Kaleb C. Striplin/Claremore, OK 89 560SEL, 87 300SDL, 85 380SE, 85 300D, 84 250 LWB, 83 300TD, 81 300TD, 81 240D, 81 240D, 76 450SEL, 76 240D, 76 300D, 74 240D, 69 250 http://www.striplin.net ___ http://www.striplin.net For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://striplin.net/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_striplin.net -- No virus found in this incoming message. Checked by AVG Anti-Virus. Version: 7.0.338 / Virus Database: 267.14.9/216 - Release Date: 29/12/2005 ___ http://www.striplin.net For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://striplin.net/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_striplin.net ___ http://www.striplin.net For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://striplin.net/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_striplin.net -- No virus found in this incoming message. Checked by AVG Anti-Virus. Version: 7.0.338 / Virus Database: 267.14.12/220 - Release Date: 3/01/2006
Re: [MBZ] Pimped 190E
Sacrilege Burn it at the stake - Original Message - From: Dave M. [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: Mercedes Discussion List [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Thursday, January 05, 2006 4:35 AM Subject: [MBZ] Pimped 190E This is wrong on s many levels... http://cgi.ebay.co.uk/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItemitem=4599940334 Look closely - it's got hydraulics too. (*shudder*) O_o -- Dave M. Boise, ID 1994 E500 - 95kmi (Q-ship) 1987 300D - 261kmi (Sportline) ___ http://www.striplin.net For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://striplin.net/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_striplin.net -- No virus found in this incoming message. Checked by AVG Anti-Virus. Version: 7.0.338 / Virus Database: 267.14.12/220 - Release Date: 3/01/2006
Re: [MBZ] Used Engines from Tri-Star VIN no.
This does not tell much except that it is a 82 made in Germany.duh http://www.benzworld.org/modelguide/ Hendrik - Original Message - From: Brian Chase [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Thursday, January 05, 2006 5:07 AM Subject: Re: [MBZ] Used Engines from Tri-Star VIN no. Thanks to all for the input. I did obtain the VIN of the '82 240D that the engine is currently sitting in. It's: WDBAB23AXCB314258 If anyone would run a CarFax on it, that'd be great. From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Reply-To: Mercedes Discussion List [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: Mercedes Discussion List [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: [MBZ] Used Engines from Tri-Star Date: Wed, 4 Jan 2006 08:35:27 -0500 snip You might also ask Tri-Star for the engine # and if possible, the VIN of the car it was removed from. With the VIN a Carfax *might* tell you something about the condition of the engine, or it might not. If you get the engine # *and* the VIN you should be able to determine if that engine actually came out of that VIN. It might not be possible to tell if that *exact* engine came from the VIN they provided but MBNA *might* have some info to help correlate the 2 numbers together. But gathering more info is never a bad thing. There's also a possibility Tri-Star will tell you that info is not available. If nothing else, Tri-Star will see you're not going into this blindly. snip Listers, The wheels of action are finally grinding to a start in the resurrection of my 83 240D. I'm planning on purchasing a used engine tomorrow from Tri-Star in PHX. My auto is at the shop in Tucson, and awaiting shipment of the engine. Question: How can one really know that the proclaimed mileage on a used engine like this is anywhere near accurate? It would be in the best interest of the crooked parts outfit to claim to be selling a nice low-mileage engine, yet actually to deliver their highest-mileage engine. They are claiming to be selling me their lowest mileage 240 engine, but as I said, it would take some genuine honesty not to pull a bait switch. I know there's probably no answer to this question, but what have you all found in your experience? Bear in mind that I am no where near this outfit geographically and thus cannot do any physical investigation. Brian 83 240D _ Express yourself instantly with MSN Messenger! Download today - it's FREE! http://messenger.msn.click-url.com/go/onm00200471ave/direct/01/ ___ http://www.striplin.net For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://striplin.net/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_striplin.net ___ http://www.striplin.net For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://striplin.net/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_striplin.net _ Express yourself instantly with MSN Messenger! Download today - it's FREE! http://messenger.msn.click-url.com/go/onm00200471ave/direct/01/ ___ http://www.striplin.net For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://striplin.net/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_striplin.net -- No virus found in this incoming message. Checked by AVG Anti-Virus. Version: 7.0.338 / Virus Database: 267.14.12/220 - Release Date: 3/01/2006
Re: [MBZ] Used Engines from Tri-Star VIN no.
Looks to be a import as well. You might want to get back to tri star and ask them about the mileage. Does carfax make mistakes like missing out a zero on the end. I would not believe that the 240D has only done 10Kmiles, even 105k miles is a bit low for an 82. On the other hand it checks out as being wrecked in the middle of 05. Hendrik - Original Message - From: Brian Chase [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Thursday, January 05, 2006 5:58 AM Subject: Re: [MBZ] Used Engines from Tri-Star VIN no. Thanks for running, guys. So the issue to be concerned about is the mileage reports I suppose. This report says some 10,5xxx miles. Tri Star says 105,xxx miles. Sounds like Tri Star doesn't know the mileage on that car at all, and is just claiming it to be 105k. Brian BIG SNIP
Re: [MBZ] euro wagon
I have one but you can't have it cause I am in Oz and shipping cost lots. Also those economy meter are just there to worry you into going slower. Also the oil prssure is pretty good given the temp and revs, mine is usally at 1 at idle. Hendrik - Original Message - From: Zeitgeist [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: Mercedes Discussion List [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Thursday, January 05, 2006 1:57 PM Subject: Re: [MBZ] euro wagon Nice car, but he appears to be casting aspersions on the the individual who originally imported the vehicle: This model mercedes was never available in the United States; it was imported by a private part in 1985. BTW: Does anyone have a 123 guage with the economy meter built into it, like this gasser's setup. I'm just looking for the fuel level/oil pressure/coolant temp/fuel economy guage set. On 1/4/06, Kaleb C. Striplin [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: http://cgi.ebay.com/ebaymotors/Mercedes-Benz-200-Series-230-TE-1985-Mercedes-Benz-230TE-Euro-wagon-very-clean_W0QQitemZ4602180714QQcategoryZ6329QQrdZ1QQcmdZViewItem Casey Olympia, WA Biodiesel: I drive in a persistent vegetative state '87 300TD intercooler (211k) '84 300D (207k) Gashuffer: '89 Vanagon Wolfsburg Edition (186K) ___ http://www.striplin.net For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://striplin.net/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_striplin.net -- No virus found in this incoming message. Checked by AVG Anti-Virus. Version: 7.0.338 / Virus Database: 267.14.12/220 - Release Date: 3/01/2006
Re: [MBZ] Im sure glad the spark plugs are intact
Thanks mate. I prefer the back up till you feel the bump method of reversing, which is not a problem with steel bumpers:-) Hendrik - Original Message - From: Desert Rat [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: Mercedes Discussion List [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Thursday, January 05, 2006 4:49 PM Subject: Re: [MBZ] Im sure glad the spark plugs are intact Those are called Rear Fender Indicators and come out of the fenders, similar to the antenna, when you are in reverse gear. On 1/4/06, Hendrik Riessen [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: What are those thingys towards the rear of the rear qurter panels. They look like something to put flags in or something? Just curious can afford anything like that or want anything as ostentatious. Plus the missus would spew with all those buttons. Hendrik - Original Message - From: Kaleb C. Striplin [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: Mercedes mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Thursday, January 05, 2006 11:17 AM Subject: [MBZ] Im sure glad the spark plugs are intact http://cgi.ebay.com/ebaymotors/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItemitem=4600724195rd=1sspagename=STRK%3AMEWA%3AITrd=1 -- Kaleb C. Striplin/Claremore, OK 89 560SEL, 87 300SDL, 85 380SE, 85 300D, 84 250 LWB, 83 300TD, 81 300TD, 81 240D, 81 240D, 76 450SEL, 76 240D, 76 300D, 74 240D, 69 250 http://www.striplin.net ___ http://www.striplin.net For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://striplin.net/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_striplin.net -- No virus found in this incoming message. Checked by AVG Anti-Virus. Version: 7.0.338 / Virus Database: 267.14.12/220 - Release Date: 3/01/2006 ___ http://www.striplin.net For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://striplin.net/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_striplin.net -- John Freer Palm Springs, CA 1992 500 SEL 140K Stardust 1985 380SL 145K Blue Belle ___ http://www.striplin.net For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://striplin.net/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_striplin.net -- No virus found in this incoming message. Checked by AVG Anti-Virus. Version: 7.0.338 / Virus Database: 267.14.12/220 - Release Date: 3/01/2006
Re: [MBZ] Just another crappy station wagon
OOh yeah for more good stuff go here http://www.cwwcardesign.com/cars/mbhistoric.html might have to slide the picture to the left to access the links, unless you have a huge monitor. Hendrik - Original Message - From: Hendrik Riessen [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: Mercedes Discussion List [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Thursday, January 05, 2006 6:18 PM Subject: [MBZ] Just another crappy station wagon http://www.cwwcardesign.com/cars/maybach_57_t.html Wonder if it has the 7 seater option? Hendrik ___ http://www.striplin.net For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://striplin.net/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_striplin.net -- No virus found in this incoming message. Checked by AVG Anti-Virus. Version: 7.0.338 / Virus Database: 267.14.12/220 - Release Date: 3/01/2006
Re: [MBZ] Just another crappy station wagon
That's the Mercedes version of the VW Golf:-) - Original Message - From: Zeitgeist [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: Mercedes Discussion List [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Thursday, January 05, 2006 11:10 PM Subject: Re: [MBZ] Just another crappy station wagon WTF? http://www.cwwcardesign.com/cars/100dcompact1.html On 1/4/06, Hendrik Riessen [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: OOh yeah for more good stuff go here http://www.cwwcardesign.com/cars/mbhistoric.html might have to slide the picture to the left to access the links, unless you have a huge monitor. Casey Olympia, WA Biodiesel: I drive in a persistent vegetative state '87 300TD intercooler (211k) '84 300D (207k) Gashuffer: '89 Vanagon Wolfsburg Edition (186K) ___ http://www.striplin.net For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://striplin.net/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_striplin.net -- No virus found in this incoming message. Checked by AVG Anti-Virus. Version: 7.0.338 / Virus Database: 267.14.12/220 - Release Date: 3/01/2006
Re: [MBZ] Mercedes Benz Classic Magazine
That is the 280CE in the Mercedes Classic Centre at Fellbach? Apparently they keep the first and last example of every model. There are some nice and historic machines there. https://www.cms.daimlerchrysler.com/emb_classic/0,,0-195-78866-1-200655-1-0-0-0-0-0-3490-78641-0-0-0-0-0-0-0,00.html Hendrik - Original Message - From: V Layton [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Friday, January 06, 2006 4:13 PM Subject: Re: [MBZ] Mercedes Benz Classic Magazine I agree. I get mine the same way, too. I'm about to get my third one, the first I got was issue #10- that feautred the very last W123 280CE ever made- so obviously I was pretty pleased. I would like to get the whole back collection, it think it's $49, maybe $55 dollars. It was started in 2002, I'm guessing no matter what it will have historical significance one day. They sell for 6 euros, and since the buck is weak to it, $22 is pretty good. Besides, imagine what a limited specialty market it caters to, I'm sure it's not cheap to produce a mag of that caliber. If you like to read about some of the pinacles of historic MB preservation, I highly recommend it. Vince Club 123D President www.club123d.org sponsor of USA's only W123 exclusive driving events and shows
Re: [MBZ] 5.0 euro, replaced the fuel filter, warp drive back up sort of
I'd say at WOT your fuel air mixture is too rich, whereas when you back off the throttle the mixture improves (less fuel). Have you pulled the spark plugs, they sometimes tell the story. Are you able to adjust the mixture on your fuel distributor? The later KE ones have a plug to stop tampering (govt regs), whereas the K jet ones have a adjustment screw which takes a Allen key. Make sure that the Allen key is a good fit. Adjusting the mixture without a CO meter is an art form and not something that should be done without some knowledge of the procedure (read that as a disclaimer). To do this properly you should check your fuel pressures before turning the mixture screw. No good trying to compensate for a system running the wrong pressures. I STRONGLY ADVISE YOU TO LEARN MORE ABOUT K-JETRONIC SYSTEMS BEFORE ATTEMPTING TO ADJUST ANYTHING, YOU HAVE TO KNOW WHAT YOU ARE TRYING TO DO BEFORE YOU DO IT. Especially if you are doing this without the proper diagnostic equipment. Hendrik - Original Message - From: Kaleb C. Striplin [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: Mercedes mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Monday, January 09, 2006 9:44 AM Subject: [MBZ] 5.0 euro, replaced the fuel filter, warp drive back up sort of Well I replaced the fuel filter on the 85 380 with the 5.0 euro, didnt seem to make a different. I unhooked the exhaust at the manifold and it didnt seem to make a different. Hooked the exhaust back up and now it seems fine. Took it for a spin, doenst seem to have quite as much power as before, almost like a US 5.0. Anyways, what I did notice is that full pedal down, economy guage all the way in the red, x amount of power. IF you let up off the pedal slightly, economy guage moves slighly off full red and you have more power. Can tell a definate difference. What does this indicate? -- Kaleb C. Striplin/Claremore, OK 89 560SEL, 87 300SDL, 85 380SE, 85 300D, 84 250 LWB, 83 300TD, 81 300TD, 81 240D, 81 240D, 76 450SEL, 76 240D, 76 300D, 74 240D, 69 250 http://www.striplin.net ___ http://www.striplin.net For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://striplin.net/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_striplin.net -- No virus found in this incoming message. Checked by AVG Anti-Virus. Version: 7.0.338 / Virus Database: 267.14.12/220 - Release Date: 3/01/2006
Re: [MBZ] 5.0 euro, replaced the fuel filter, warp drive back up sort of
http://www.isham-research.co.uk/quattro/pressure.html http://www.pulse-jets.com/phpbb2/files/k-jetronic_fuel_injection_-_8_valve_engines_205.pdf http://e21.tricord.be/e21/about/k-jetronic.php http://www.autotech.com/tech_fuelinjection.htm http://www.petroject.com.au/efi.html http://www.volvoclub.org.uk/tech/fuel_injection/k_jetronic.shtml These links talk about pressures, I had a quick galnce and although not specific for your motor they all seem to be about 1 bar cold control pressure and 3-5 bar warm control pressure. I does mention that performance gains can be made by altering the warm control pressure but like any HP gain you pay for it at the pump. Hendrik - Original Message - From: OK Don [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: Mercedes Discussion List [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Monday, January 09, 2006 12:00 PM Subject: Re: [MBZ] 5.0 euro, replaced the fuel filter,warp drive back up sort of I have a gauge set - perhaps we can work something out. I bought it from JC Whitney - not too expensive. On 1/8/06, Mitch Haley [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: David Brodbeck wrote: Yes! Get a gauge. You really can't troubleshoot K-Jet without one. If I remember right, to do all the tests you need a set that includes a gauge, a valve, and fittings that replace banjo bolts and give you places to connect the gauge hoses. I made two of them 20 years ago when I worked for a Saab Indy. My boss let me take the fittings from some parts cars, and I bought the gauges, valves and lines. Cost about $25 total, getting the Bosch parts for free and the rest at wholesale. I think the Bosch service tool was about $80 back then, slightly cheaper than an injector pop tester. When my old boss died, I should have gone to his estate sale and bought the other one. I can't guarantee the Saab fittings on mine are right for the 500, but it seems feasible. BTW, it is my opinion that the warm-up regulator is the most troublesome part on K-jet systems I've dealt with. (on Saabs and Rabbits) -- OK Don, KD5NRO Norman, OK '90 300D 243K, '87 300SDL 290K, '81 240D 173K, '78 450SLC 67K, '97 Ply Grand Voyager 78K ___ http://www.striplin.net For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://striplin.net/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_striplin.net -- No virus found in this incoming message. Checked by AVG Anti-Virus. Version: 7.0.338 / Virus Database: 267.14.12/220 - Release Date: 3/01/2006
[MBZ] Fuel pressure test kits for K-jetronic(CIS)
Yeah well I am in the market for a test kit. The cheapest I have found in Oz is about AU$600 http://www.autotools.com.au/catalogue/product.php/10/19/224 On ebay there are several overseas but none in Oz, the cheapest is this one in Ohio ebay number: 4602349480 however if you want to test a broader range then this one is better ebay num: 4601165793 Of course if a mate lends you his/hers then it will work out even cheaper. Oh yeah just in case someone is wondering what a bar is, a bar is 100kpa. One bar is about 14.5psi. Hendrik - Original Message - From: Mitch Haley [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: Mercedes Discussion List [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Monday, January 09, 2006 11:58 AM Subject: Re: [MBZ] 5.0 euro, replaced the fuel filter,warp drive back up sort of David Brodbeck wrote: Yes! Get a gauge. You really can't troubleshoot K-Jet without one. If I remember right, to do all the tests you need a set that includes a gauge, a valve, and fittings that replace banjo bolts and give you places to connect the gauge hoses. I made two of them 20 years ago when I worked for a Saab Indy. My boss let me take the fittings from some parts cars, and I bought the gauges, valves and lines. Cost about $25 total, getting the Bosch parts for free and the rest at wholesale. I think the Bosch service tool was about $80 back then, slightly cheaper than an injector pop tester. When my old boss died, I should have gone to his estate sale and bought the other one. I can't guarantee the Saab fittings on mine are right for the 500, but it seems feasible. BTW, it is my opinion that the warm-up regulator is the most troublesome part on K-jet systems I've dealt with. (on Saabs and Rabbits) ___ http://www.striplin.net For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://striplin.net/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_striplin.net -- No virus found in this incoming message. Checked by AVG Anti-Virus. Version: 7.0.338 / Virus Database: 267.14.12/220 - Release Date: 3/01/2006
Re: [MBZ] Fuel pressure test kits for K-jetronic(CIS)
I'll keep that in mind, however I usally buy tools with a long term view in mind. That is to say one day I may own a car that has a system other than K/KE in which case a universal kit comes in handy. Also being able to fix tricky hard to track down problems will save lots of dollars. Not to mention when the old school mechanics retire there will be no-one to fix these old cars. I don't think too many of todays DC apprentices would know anything about K-jetronic, except that it a system used on antique Benz vehicles. Also while I am bashing away at the keyboard, just a word of safety about working on fuel injection systems. All fuel injection systems work under a fair bit of pressure (ie. K-jet works at somewhere between 50-75psi) and the fuel pump is designed to have a flow rate of about 15 litres/minute, so if there is a problem you may have a flame thrower on your hands. To avoid a potentially nasty situation it is recommended to disconnect the battery (although few do) and ground the chassis to get rid of static electricity. OK most won't do that because it is a pain to do, however I do insist that when working on a fuel system that safety glasses are worn. Spilt fuel is cleaned up straight away. A working and suitable fire extinguisher is at hand (not over the other side of the shed behind a whole pile of old bits and pieces because in these situations seconds count), also make sure you know how to use the extinguisher (you don't want to read the instructions as your pride and joy is barbecuing). I have a extinguisher attached to the passenger seat and an extinguisher just inside the door to the shed (also inform your partner of the location of extinguisher and instruct in use of said item without alarming partner). As a backup have the garden hose nearby just in case. Lastly if you do get covered in fuel, change clothes immediatley. I usally just wear a T shirt (and pants) and if some fuel spills it is easy to change or just wipe the arms. I realise most/all of you know this stuff but I doesn't hurt to be reminded as much as first degree burns hurt (which I don't know because I have never been a human torch). Also if anyone has additional safety tips relating to fuel systems, please speak up. Hendrik with a good safety record - Original Message - From: Mitch Haley [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: Mercedes Discussion List [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Monday, January 09, 2006 1:49 PM Subject: Re: [MBZ] Fuel pressure test kits for K-jetronic(CIS) Hendrik Riessen wrote: Yeah well I am in the market for a test kit. The cheapest I have found in Oz is about AU$600 http://www.autotools.com.au/catalogue/product.php/10/19/224 That's a big universal kit. For K-jet, you just need something you can put in the control circuit with a gauge and a shutoff valve. With the valve open, you read control pressure. With the valve shut, control pressure rises to match system pressure and you see what the regulator is set for. ___ http://www.striplin.net For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://striplin.net/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_striplin.net -- No virus found in this incoming message. Checked by AVG Anti-Virus. Version: 7.0.338 / Virus Database: 267.14.12/220 - Release Date: 3/01/2006
Re: [MBZ] Fuel pressure test kits for K-jetronic(CIS)
Thanks for that, does it work on D-jet or more modern type injection system? It should work on D-jet I suppose because all you can really measure is fuel pump pressure, the rest is all electrical. Same with the modern injection systems. It all comes down to the variety of connectors in a kit. Hendrik - Original Message - From: OK Don [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: Mercedes Discussion List [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Monday, January 09, 2006 3:26 PM Subject: Re: [MBZ] Fuel pressure test kits for K-jetronic(CIS) I don't know it they ship to Oz, but I have this one and it works OK --- http://tinyurl.com/ddf28 On 1/8/06, Mitch Haley [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Hendrik Riessen wrote: Yeah well I am in the market for a test kit. The cheapest I have found in Oz is about AU$600 http://www.autotools.com.au/catalogue/product.php/10/19/224 That's a big universal kit. For K-jet, you just need something you can put in the control circuit with a gauge and a shutoff valve. With the valve open, you read control pressure. With the valve shut, control pressure rises to match system pressure and you see what the regulator is set for. -- OK Don, KD5NRO Norman, OK '90 300D 243K, '87 300SDL 290K, '81 240D 173K, '78 450SLC 67K, '97 Ply Grand Voyager 78K ___ http://www.striplin.net For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://striplin.net/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_striplin.net -- No virus found in this incoming message. Checked by AVG Anti-Virus. Version: 7.0.338 / Virus Database: 267.14.12/220 - Release Date: 3/01/2006
Re: [MBZ] New MB Driven Ssang Yong in AU
Yes but will they be able to do this http://coolmike.no.sapo.pt/smartmedia.wmv and stand up to this http://video.google.com/videoplay?docid=6605730767077503480q=smart+crash Then again more Merc running gear is not a bad thing, find a wreck and pull the mechanicals out ready to slip into the ole 123. Hmmnh a 123 with a 2.7 cdi or 3.2 V6. Anyway SsangYong (does not sound as good as Mercedes-Benz) have been shipping their stuff over here since 96 or 97 with MB running gear. Hendrik and his dreams of a fuel efficient and powerful 123 - Original Message - From: Ed Booher [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Monday, January 09, 2006 6:09 PM Subject: [MBZ] New MB Driven Ssang Yong in AU From: http://carsguide.news.com.au/story/0,20384,17767442-21822,00.html Ssanyong is maintaining its expansion strategy on the Australian market and has announced it will import the Kyron range of four-wheel-drives to Australia next year. Kyron looks to be a medium-size wagon and is likely to be promoted for its safety, yet at typically low SsanYong prices. Engines familiar to SsanYong models already sold here, such as the Rexton, will be in the Kyron range. They are the 2.7-litre turbo-diesel five-cylinder and the double overhead camshaft 3.2-litre V6 petrol jobs made under licence from Mercedes-Benz. However, SsanYong says it is particularly proud of a new common-rail two-litre diesel engine that it has developed in house. All three engines will be offered on Kyron in Australia. The importers promise the Kyron will be a genuine sporty 4WD. It will have multi-link suspension, optional 18in-diameter wheels, an advanced electronic stability program linked to an active rollover protection program, as well as hill-descent control. Also optional is driver seat memory, which is able to store the seat and mirror settings for three separate people. A five-speed manual or the T-tronic (that is, Mercedes-Benz type) five-speed automatic will be the transmission choices. Dual front and side curtain airbags are part of the standard safety gear, as are ventilated disc brakes with ABS and a brake-assist system. SsanYong Kyron is due to go on sale in Australia in the second quarter of 2006 following its overseas launch in the first few months of the year. Pricing is yet to be finalised but Rapson Holdings, the SsanYong distributor in Australia, is expecting an entry-level model to be about $35,000. -- Knowledge is power... Power Corrupts. Study hard... Be Evil. ___ http://www.striplin.net For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://striplin.net/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_striplin.net -- No virus found in this incoming message. Checked by AVG Anti-Virus. Version: 7.0.338 / Virus Database: 267.14.12/220 - Release Date: 3/01/2006
Re: [MBZ] worth 17k
Yeah right, is that before or after the rust is cut out? Hendrik - Original Message - From: Kaleb C. Striplin [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: Banned List [EMAIL PROTECTED]; Mercedes mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Wednesday, January 11, 2006 1:03 PM Subject: [MBZ] worth 17k http://cgi.ebay.com/ebaymotors/Mercedes-Benz-300-Series-6-3-V-8-300-SEL-NO-RESERVE_W0QQitemZ4603865007QQcategoryZ6330QQrdZ1QQcmdZViewItem -- Kaleb C. Striplin/Claremore, OK 89 560SEL, 87 300SDL, 85 380SE, 85 300D, 84 250 LWB, 83 300TD, 81 300TD, 81 240D, 81 240D, 76 450SEL, 76 240D, 76 300D, 74 240D, 69 250 http://www.striplin.net ___ http://www.striplin.net For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://striplin.net/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_striplin.net -- No virus found in this incoming message. Checked by AVG Anti-Virus. Version: 7.0.338 / Virus Database: 267.14.16/225 - Release Date: 9/01/2006
[MBZ] 123 crash video
http://video.google.com/videoplay?docid=5396839096066486024q=w123+Crash+Tests Watch carefully to see the seat belt pre-tensioner and what happens when kids are not properly restrained. Hendrik From [EMAIL PROTECTED] Wed Jan 11 07:35:23 2006 Received: from imf16aec.mail.bellsouth.net ([205.152.59.64]) by server5.arterytc5.net with esmtp (Exim 4.52) id 1EwaVv-0007rq-QX for [EMAIL PROTECTED]; Wed, 11 Jan 2006 07:35:23 + Received: from ibm56aec.bellsouth.net ([216.79.241.233]) by imf16aec.mail.bellsouth.net with ESMTP id [EMAIL PROTECTED] for [EMAIL PROTECTED]; Wed, 11 Jan 2006 02:35:20 -0500 Received: from D4W8P421 ([216.79.241.233]) by ibm56aec.bellsouth.net with SMTP id [EMAIL PROTECTED]; Wed, 11 Jan 2006 02:35:19 -0500 Message-ID: [EMAIL PROTECTED] From: Harry Watkins [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [EMAIL PROTECTED], Mercedes Discussion List [EMAIL PROTECTED] References: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Date: Wed, 11 Jan 2006 01:35:14 -0600 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 6.00.2800.1158 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2800.1165 X-Antivirus-Scanner: Clean mail though you should still use an Antivirus Subject: Re: [MBZ] My New 1987 300SDL X-BeenThere: [EMAIL PROTECTED] X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.6 Precedence: list Reply-To: Harry Watkins [EMAIL PROTECTED], Mercedes Discussion List [EMAIL PROTECTED] List-Id: Mercedes Discussion List mercedes_striplin.net.striplin.net List-Unsubscribe: http://striplin.net/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_striplin.net, mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] List-Archive: http://striplin.net/pipermail/mercedes_striplin.net List-Post: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] List-Help: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] List-Subscribe: http://striplin.net/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_striplin.net, mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 11 Jan 2006 07:35:24 - Congratulations James, these are great cars and I hope you enjoy yours like I do mine. Harry Watkins Newton, MS 86 SDL Silver 85 300D Euro 86 SDL Gold 81 240D manual trans - Original Message - From: James Jetton [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Wednesday, January 11, 2006 12:40 AM Subject: [MBZ] My New 1987 300SDL Listers, Just pulled in from the Windy City, where I picked up my winning e-bay bid. (1987 300 SDL) After a cursory exam, we headed south, 825 miles south to be exact. Figured it would make a good shakedown cruise. Car performed flawlessly! 29 mpg over speeds ranging from 45to 80 mph. Cruise worked All in all, I feel I got a real decent car, not a museum piece. James Jetton 1987 300 SDL 135K
[MBZ] More info about Ssangyong Mercs
Check out ebay number 4603739247 for a close up look at a 98 4x4. Looks like the engine is not Mercedes made but licensed to Ssangyong. Hendrik From [EMAIL PROTECTED] Wed Jan 11 08:28:03 2006 Received: from isp2.conwaycorp.net ([24.144.4.17]) by server5.arterytc5.net with smtp (Exim 4.52) id 1EwbKt-0003sQ-H0 for [EMAIL PROTECTED]; Wed, 11 Jan 2006 08:28:03 + Received: (qmail 30510 invoked by uid 89); 11 Jan 2006 08:27:57 - Received: from dhcp53-64.cable.conwaycorp.net (HELO ?192.168.1.2?) ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) by ISP2.conwaycorp.net with SMTP; 11 Jan 2006 08:27:57 - Message-ID: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Date: Wed, 11 Jan 2006 02:27:55 -0600 From: Robert Tara Ludwick [EMAIL PROTECTED] User-Agent: Thunderbird 1.4 (Windows/20050908) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Mercedes Discussion List [EMAIL PROTECTED] References: [EMAIL PROTECTED] In-Reply-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Antivirus-Scanner: Clean mail though you should still use an Antivirus Subject: Re: [MBZ] 123 crash video X-BeenThere: [EMAIL PROTECTED] X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.6 Precedence: list Reply-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED], Mercedes Discussion List [EMAIL PROTECTED] List-Id: Mercedes Discussion List mercedes_striplin.net.striplin.net List-Unsubscribe: http://striplin.net/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_striplin.net, mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] List-Archive: http://striplin.net/pipermail/mercedes_striplin.net List-Post: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] List-Help: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] List-Subscribe: http://striplin.net/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_striplin.net, mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 11 Jan 2006 08:28:03 - I love how it says *w123* one of Mercedes most popular models shows off its (for its time) technological superiority. For it's time...Heck, I saw a one year old Ford Expedition in the boneyard last week that didn't fare anywhere near as well as that 123 ( not a severe wreck either, a simple 1x low speed rollover, the thing looked like lasagna, all doors sprung ( from the wreck, not rescue )roof line colapsed in a twist into passenger compartment, every passenger position was either a serious injury or death...gave me the creeps ). I'll jump in a 123 any day of the week. I would not feel safe at all in one of those Expeditions. Instead of saying for it's time it should say: ahead of it's time ---Robert Hendrik Riessen wrote: http://video.google.com/videoplay?docidS96839096066486024q=w123+Crash+Tests Watch carefully to see the seat belt pre-tensioner and what happens when kids are not properly restrained. Hendrik ___ http://www.striplin.net For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://striplin.net/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_striplin.net
Re: [MBZ] WOW, may the crack runeth over
They saw you coming didn't they:-) Hendrik who paid AU$3000 for the 230E - Original Message - From: redghost [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: Mercedes Discussion List [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Thursday, January 12, 2006 8:40 AM Subject: Re: [MBZ] WOW, may the crack runeth over I paid $117.50 for my 72 220D On Tuesday, January 10, 2006, at 07:05 PM, J. Scott Moncrief wrote: Kevin: I paid $15,000 for my 1983 300SD. On 1/10/06, kevin kraly [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Wow! Over 11K for a 1984 W126? That beats anything I've ever encountered before! snip But, that was in 1989 when it had 95,000 miles on it. -- J. Scott Moncrief - Sparta, NC MBCA - Carolinas Section http://web.infoave.net/~ontheriver/automobiles 1983 300SD 465Kmi HYTIDE 1986 300SDL 172 Kmi LOTIDE 1998 E320S4 105 Kmi ___ http://www.striplin.net For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://striplin.net/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_striplin.net -- Clay Seattle Bioburner 1972 220D - Gump 1995 E300D - Cleo 1987 300SDL - POS - DOA The FSM would drive a Diesel Benz ___ http://www.striplin.net For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://striplin.net/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_striplin.net -- No virus found in this incoming message. Checked by AVG Anti-Virus. Version: 7.0.338 / Virus Database: 267.14.16/225 - Release Date: 9/01/2006
Re: [MBZ] manny 240D
I think Gump might get a new friend:-) - Original Message - From: Kaleb C. Striplin [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: Mercedes mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Thursday, January 12, 2006 11:59 AM Subject: [MBZ] manny 240D http://cgi.ebay.com/ebaymotors/Mercedes-Benz-200-Series-240D-pf556057_W0QQitemZ4603900039QQcategoryZ6329QQrdZ1QQcmdZViewItem -- Kaleb C. Striplin/Claremore, OK 89 560SEL, 87 300SDL, 85 380SE, 85 300D, 84 250 LWB, 83 300TD, 81 300TD, 81 240D, 81 240D, 76 450SEL, 76 240D, 76 300D, 74 240D, 69 250 http://www.striplin.net ___ http://www.striplin.net For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://striplin.net/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_striplin.net -- No virus found in this incoming message. Checked by AVG Anti-Virus. Version: 7.0.338 / Virus Database: 267.14.16/225 - Release Date: 9/01/2006
Re: [MBZ] 123 crash video
Go to http://video.google.com/ and search for w123. Works fine for me, I had to download the google video player to save the video onto the hard drive. This is the direct link http://video.google.com/videoplay?docid=5396839096066486024q=w123 Hendrik who hopes never to have a need for those safety features - Original Message - From: John W. Reames III [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: Mercedes Discussion List [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Thursday, January 12, 2006 12:04 PM Subject: Re: [MBZ] 123 crash video Do you have another copy of it? i get the video is not available, and i want to see it :) -j. ___ http://www.striplin.net For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://striplin.net/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_striplin.net -- No virus found in this incoming message. Checked by AVG Anti-Virus. Version: 7.0.338 / Virus Database: 267.14.16/225 - Release Date: 9/01/2006
Re: [MBZ] here is a real winner
I wonder if that box of chocolates comes with the car? Hendrik - Original Message - From: Kaleb C. Striplin [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: Banned List [EMAIL PROTECTED]; Mercedes mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Thursday, January 12, 2006 12:20 PM Subject: [MBZ] here is a real winner http://cgi.ebay.com/ebaymotors/Mercedes-Benz-E-Class-Diesel-1996-Mercedes-Benz-E300d-DIESEL-LIKE-NEW-SMOKE-FREE_W0QQitemZ4604170860QQcategoryZ6335QQrdZ1QQcmdZViewItem -- Kaleb C. Striplin/Claremore, OK 89 560SEL, 87 300SDL, 85 380SE, 85 300D, 84 250 LWB, 83 300TD, 81 300TD, 81 240D, 81 240D, 76 450SEL, 76 240D, 76 300D, 74 240D, 69 250 http://www.striplin.net ___ http://www.striplin.net For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://striplin.net/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_striplin.net -- No virus found in this incoming message. Checked by AVG Anti-Virus. Version: 7.0.338 / Virus Database: 267.14.16/225 - Release Date: 9/01/2006
Re: [MBZ] VWTD
Lots of nagging, snide remarks and those looks:-) What women really want is power, lots of big V8 power. They won't admit it but that is what they like. The missus came home the other day after being in a mates new (to him) V6 mitsi and she commented that the car had power. Of course if they have to juice the car they will get the little buzz box but women love the feel of power. Hendrik who is quite happy with the little 4 banger - Original Message - From: Dan Weeks [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Thursday, January 12, 2006 3:04 PM Subject: [MBZ] VWTD Wife is already complaining .. uh, I mean, commenting ...about the addition of the VW turbo-diesel to the fleet. :-) What'd you get, Don? Dan -- Dan Weeks 82 VW Westfalia 1.6 TD conversion 186k 82 Mercedes 300SD, 275k ___ http://www.striplin.net For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://striplin.net/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_striplin.net -- No virus found in this incoming message. Checked by AVG Anti-Virus. Version: 7.0.338 / Virus Database: 267.14.16/225 - Release Date: 9/01/2006
Re: [MBZ] WOW
The 109 has a bigger engine. Also it is possible to tell the chassis model from the VIN. This works with motors too. Hendrik - Original Message - From: Sunil Hari [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: Mercedes Discussion List [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Friday, January 13, 2006 4:45 AM Subject: Re: [MBZ] WOW 108, 109? I can't remember the difference between the two. On 1/12/06, Christopher McCann [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: ditto - what chassis is that? Chris Kaleb C. Striplin [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: http://cgi.ebay.com/ebaymotors/Mercedes-Benz-300-Series-300-SEL-1971-Mercedes-300-SEL-300SEL-Oklahoma_W0QQitemZ4603147561QQcategoryZ6330QQrdZ1QQcmdZViewItem -- Kaleb C. Striplin/Claremore, OK 89 560SEL, 87 300SDL, 85 380SE, 85 300D, 84 250 LWB, 83 300TD, 81 300TD, 81 240D, 81 240D, 76 450SEL, 76 240D, 76 300D, 74 240D, 69 250 http://www.striplin.net ___ http://www.striplin.net For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://striplin.net/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_striplin.net Christopher McCann, Squier Park, Kansas City, Missouri -2005 Blue Point Siamese, Rose -1987 300TD, 151K, Rotkäppchen -1985 300SD, 210K, Wulf -1976 240D, ?K, AKP-Wagen (Alternativen Kraftstoffs Prüfenlastwagen) -1972 Jacobsen 21 Turbo Vent -1971 Case 222 Hydrive, 12HP Kohler, 38 deck, Snowcaster, One Banger - Yahoo! Photos Got holiday prints? See all the ways to get quality prints in your hands ASAP. ___ http://www.striplin.net For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://striplin.net/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_striplin.net -- Sunil Hari [EMAIL PROTECTED] 513-205-7474 ___ http://www.striplin.net For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://striplin.net/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_striplin.net -- No virus found in this incoming message. Checked by AVG Anti-Virus. Version: 7.0.338 / Virus Database: 267.14.16/225 - Release Date: 9/01/2006
Re: [MBZ] Im sure somebody needs this
Commonly found in Unimogs. Looks like seller has no idea. Hendrik with a OM352 that has been started - Original Message - From: Loren Faeth [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: Mercedes Discussion List [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Friday, January 13, 2006 5:26 AM Subject: Re: [MBZ] Im sure somebody needs this Engine is an OM 352 900 012 and is complete with clutch and pressure plate! never been started V-6 Interesting description. I suppose somebody in NE can use it for pumping water. Looks like it has a SAE bellhousing At 12:14 PM 1/12/2006, you wrote: http://cgi.ebay.com/ebaymotors/Mercedes-Benz-Diesel-Motor_W0QQitemZ4604234246QQcategoryZ46093QQrdZ1QQcmdZViewItem -- Kaleb C. Striplin/Claremore, OK 89 560SEL, 87 300SDL, 85 380SE, 85 300D, 84 250 LWB, 83 300TD, 81 300TD, 81 240D, 81 240D, 76 450SEL, 76 240D, 76 300D, 74 240D, 69 250 http://www.striplin.net ___ http://www.striplin.net For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://striplin.net/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_striplin.net ___ http://www.striplin.net For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://striplin.net/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_striplin.net -- No virus found in this incoming message. Checked by AVG Anti-Virus. Version: 7.0.338 / Virus Database: 267.14.16/225 - Release Date: 9/01/2006
Re: [MBZ] it's raining it's hailing......
That reminds me, I have to finish cleaning the pool. Hendrik - Original Message - From: TimothyPilgrim [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: Mercedes Discussion List [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Friday, January 13, 2006 1:36 PM Subject: Re: [MBZ] it's raining it's hailing.. Temps soaring above freezing in Toronto. Went for motorcycle ride today after work. Grinned ear to ear. Tim 1982 300TD Moby On 1/12/06, Luther Gulseth [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: first major storm of the year. Quarter sized hail, covering the ground like snow. ___ http://www.striplin.net For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://striplin.net/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_striplin.net -- No virus found in this incoming message. Checked by AVG Anti-Virus. Version: 7.0.338 / Virus Database: 267.14.16/225 - Release Date: 9/01/2006
Re: [MBZ] spam
I use this program http://keir.net/k9.html to filter spam, which works pretty well and it is free Hendrik - Original Message - From: Luther Gulseth [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: Diesel List [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Saturday, January 14, 2006 12:28 AM Subject: [MBZ] spam from last evening to this morning, I got 12 spam messages. 8 of them came from HOTMAIL! G Luther KB5QHU Alma, Ark '83 300SD (happily running diesel/WVO mix) '82 300CD slate grey, black interior, 152,xxx mi ___ http://www.striplin.net For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://striplin.net/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_striplin.net -- No virus found in this incoming message. Checked by AVG Anti-Virus. Version: 7.0.338 / Virus Database: 267.14.16/225 - Release Date: 9/01/2006
Re: [MBZ] Rare 300D (W123) test film from 1976 German TV
It's also 27.9mb big. I am a bit disappointed in the fuel consumption figures, especially given that my 230E is round about 12.5l/100k's and has a lot more power. Then given the fact that diesel is usally about 10cents dearer than petrol the 300D and 230E cost about the same to run. Hendrik - Original Message - From: V Layton [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Saturday, January 14, 2006 5:56 PM Subject: [MBZ] Rare 300D (W123) test film from 1976 German TV This seems to be new on the net, sorry if you've all seen it ages ago but I thought it was so cool I had to speak up anyway. I've been seeking this sort of thing for years, while this was very satisfying, it has not exactly helped cure my desires for more W123 history! Scroll down to free and wait for a promt with an on-screen human verificaton code type thing. It's totally worth a look, and it's in German. http://rapidshare.de/files/10393112/test_300d.wmv.html Vince Club 123D President Aspiring W123 historian _ Don't just search. Find. Check out the new MSN Search! http://search.msn.click-url.com/go/onm00200636ave/direct/01/ ___ http://www.striplin.net For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://striplin.net/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_striplin.net No virus found in this incoming message. Checked by AVG Anti-Virus. Version: 7.0.338 / Virus Database: 267.14.16/225 - Release Date: 9/01/2006
Re: [MBZ] old mystery car
I seem to remember the 450's only came with autos due to the high torque. Hendrik - Original Message - From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Sunday, January 15, 2006 9:53 AM Subject: Re: [MBZ] old mystery car In a message dated 1/14/2006 1:47:30 P.M. US Mountain Standard Time, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: http://seattle.craigslist.org/car/124629311.html stick shift V8 euro 2500 wonder what it is Clay, Probably a euro 350SE or maybe a 450SE, both V8s. I had a 65 euro 300SE (big 3.0 litre 6 cyl) with a 4 speed stick. Very stout! It was serial number 52, wish I still had it Regards, Jim Friesen Phoenix AZ 79 300SD, 262 K miles 98 ML 320, 140 K miles ___ http://www.striplin.net For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://striplin.net/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_striplin.net -- No virus found in this incoming message. Checked by AVG Anti-Virus. Version: 7.0.338 / Virus Database: 267.14.16/225 - Release Date: 9/01/2006
Re: [MBZ] Lifting the rear end of a W123
Not a problem, just make sure that it is centred on the very bottom of the diff. Also make sure your front wheels are blocked and of course do not get under a car that is only supported on a hydraulic jack. Plenty of people do but it is a gamble. Hendrik - Original Message - From: Steve Marci [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Sunday, January 15, 2006 9:55 AM Subject: [MBZ] Lifting the rear end of a W123 Attn 123 folks. Is it OK to LIFT under the differential using a floor jack (and wood block) ?? Regards Steve 85 Euro 240D, 5 spd manual, 110K 79 240D, 5 spd manual, 20K on eng rebuild 94 Dodge/Cummins PU, 100K 82 TD project wagon 64 VW Bug 65 D15, AC tractor ___ http://www.striplin.net For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://striplin.net/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_striplin.net -- No virus found in this incoming message. Checked by AVG Anti-Virus. Version: 7.0.338 / Virus Database: 267.14.16/225 - Release Date: 9/01/2006
Re: [MBZ] Rare 300D (W123) test film from 1976 German TV
Perhaps one of our better deutsch speakers could produce a transcript of the more important parts, like the cross wind test. The test involves the 123 driving at 100kmh through a 100kmh cross wind and the deviation is then measured. Mostly the bloke goes on about how good it is and that there is no real competitors from other manufacturers. Hendrik whos German is a bit rusty - Original Message - From: Kaleb C. Striplin [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: Mercedes Discussion List [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Sunday, January 15, 2006 5:59 AM Subject: Re: [MBZ] Rare 300D (W123) test film from 1976 German TV neat. Too bad I cant understand german. V Layton wrote: This seems to be new on the net, sorry if you've all seen it ages ago but I thought it was so cool I had to speak up anyway. I've been seeking this sort of thing for years, while this was very satisfying, it has not exactly helped cure my desires for more W123 history! Scroll down to free and wait for a promt with an on-screen human verificaton code type thing. It's totally worth a look, and it's in German. http://rapidshare.de/files/10393112/test_300d.wmv.html Vince Club 123D President Aspiring W123 historian _ Don’t just search. Find. Check out the new MSN Search! http://search.msn.click-url.com/go/onm00200636ave/direct/01/ ___ http://www.striplin.net For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://striplin.net/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_striplin.net -- Kaleb C. Striplin/Claremore, OK 89 560SEL, 87 300SDL, 85 380SE, 85 300D, 84 250 LWB, 83 300TD, 81 300TD, 81 240D, 81 240D, 76 450SEL, 76 240D, 76 300D, 74 240D, 69 250 http://www.striplin.net ___ http://www.striplin.net For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://striplin.net/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_striplin.net -- No virus found in this incoming message. Checked by AVG Anti-Virus. Version: 7.0.338 / Virus Database: 267.14.16/225 - Release Date: 9/01/2006
Re: [MBZ] old mystery car
I think you will find the 350SL/C had a manual option. But I could be wrong. Hendrik - Original Message - From: Kaleb C. Striplin [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: Mercedes Discussion List [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Sunday, January 15, 2006 12:31 PM Subject: Re: [MBZ] old mystery car there are no factory v8 sticks redghost wrote: http://seattle.craigslist.org/car/124629311.html stick shift V8 euro 2500 wonder what it is -- Clay Seattle Bioburner 1972 220D - Gump 1995 E300D - Cleo 1987 300SDL - POS - DOA The FSM would drive a Diesel Benz ___ http://www.striplin.net For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://striplin.net/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_striplin.net -- Kaleb C. Striplin/Claremore, OK 89 560SEL, 87 300SDL, 85 380SE, 85 300D, 84 250 LWB, 83 300TD, 81 300TD, 81 240D, 81 240D, 76 450SEL, 76 240D, 76 300D, 74 240D, 69 250 http://www.striplin.net ___ http://www.striplin.net For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://striplin.net/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_striplin.net -- No virus found in this incoming message. Checked by AVG Anti-Virus. Version: 7.0.338 / Virus Database: 267.14.16/225 - Release Date: 9/01/2006
Re: [MBZ] old mystery car
I have seen a 450SLC converted to manual to rally. It is owned by Joe Alexander and he was not happy because they bumped him into modified class because the 450's never came with manual, I seem to remember him saying that he pulled the gearbox out of a 350SLC. Plus there are lots of instances of Mercedes rallying SLC's and I don't think they where all auto or six cylinders. Hendrik - Original Message - From: Marshall Booth [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: Mercedes Discussion List [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Sunday, January 15, 2006 12:47 PM Subject: Re: [MBZ] old mystery car Kaleb C. Striplin wrote: there are no factory v8 sticks I saw a 4 speed 126 or 116 V8 (can't recall which) conversion a few years ago at a MBCA tech session in northern VA. Marshall -- Marshall Booth (who doesn't respond to unsigned questions) der Dieseling Doktor [EMAIL PROTECTED] '87 300TD 182Kmi, '84 190D 2.2 229Kmi, '85 190D 2.0 161Kmi, '87 190D 2.5 turbo 237kmi ___ http://www.striplin.net For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://striplin.net/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_striplin.net -- No virus found in this incoming message. Checked by AVG Anti-Virus. Version: 7.0.338 / Virus Database: 267.14.16/225 - Release Date: 9/01/2006
[MBZ] Some ideas for your 123's
Don't look Vince:-) http://32.freebb.com/w123universe/w123universe-article13.html Hendrik who has just a little bit more taste than that
Re: [MBZ] Bird in Star
I thought you where referring to the plane with it's nose in the Merc truck until I scrolled down further. I like the one where the couple on the bike are pulled over, the moral of the storyalways carry a spare helmet:-) Hendrik - Original Message - From: OK Don [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: Mercedes Discussion List [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Sunday, March 19, 2006 9:04 AM Subject: [MBZ] Bird in Star It had to happen sometime --- Source: http://www.ezprezzo.com/crazypics/bummers.html -- OK Don, KD5NRO Norman, OK '90 300D 243K, Rattled '87 300SDL 290K, Limo Lite, or blue car '81 240D 173K, Gramps, or yellow car '78 450SLC 67K, brown car '97 Ply Grand Voyager 78K Van Go -- next part -- A non-text attachment was scrubbed... Name: bummer10.jpg Type: image/jpeg Size: 28144 bytes Desc: not available Url : http://striplin.net/pipermail/mercedes_striplin.net/attachments/20060318/a2d18b10/bummer10.jpg ___ http://www.striplin.net For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://striplin.net/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_striplin.net
Re: [MBZ] Wheel Fell off Sister's Car at 60mph
It could have been a deadly accident. Hendrik - Original Message - From: John Peterson [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: Mercedes Discussion List [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Sunday, March 19, 2006 8:51 AM Subject: [MBZ] Wheel Fell off Sister's Car at 60mph I think the service managers are pushing the mechanics so hard to do 3x the normal work in the same time- the result is, of course, human error. It could have been a costly accident. John Peterson Kingston RI 1991 300D 2.5 78k - Original Message - From: Dwight E. Giles, Jr [EMAIL PROTECTED] .net
Re: [MBZ] oh my
It's Hawaii 50 I like the question about wether it has a sunroof now or in the past. Perhaps you mericans make a habit of welding up sunroofs. Hendrik with boring old standard interior and no sunny sun roof now or in the past (that I know of) - Original Message - From: Loren Faeth [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: Mercedes Discussion List [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Thursday, March 23, 2006 12:42 PM Subject: Re: [MBZ] oh my Kaleb! You REALLY need this one! That factory special order interior is worth a fortune, if your wife doesn't demand it for her car! I wonder what the interior code number is! At 07:35 PM 3/22/2006, you wrote: http://cgi.ebay.com/ebaymotors/1981-380-SE-Hooptie-Mobile-The-Beast_W0QQitemZ4623542347QQcategoryZ6330QQrdZ1QQcmdZViewItem -- Kaleb C. Striplin/Claremore, OK 90 420SEL, 89 560SEL, 87 300SDL, 85 380SE, 85 300D, 84 190D 2.2, 83 300TD, 81 300TD, 81 240D, 81 240D, 76 450SEL, 76 240D, 76 300D, 74 240D, 72 250C, 69 250 http://www.striplin.net ___ http://www.striplin.net For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://striplin.net/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_striplin.net ___ http://www.striplin.net For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://striplin.net/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_striplin.net
