Re: New Mail notification not firing when pager is open
On Mon, Dec 28, 2020 at 11:34:23PM -0800, Akshay Hegde wrote: Is this the expected behavior, or is this a bug? This is expected behavior. Mutt only performs new mail checking in the index. This prevents issues such as the message you are reading disappearing, or the mailbox closing (for IMAP) when you are reading mail. -- Kevin J. McCarthy GPG Fingerprint: 8975 A9B3 3AA3 7910 385C 5308 ADEF 7684 8031 6BDA signature.asc Description: PGP signature
New mail notification problem + debugging question
Hello, I'm in the process of migrating all my old mail to the maildir format and restructuring my mail workflow in the process. Doing so, I ran into the following problem. I would like to know which of my mail folders have unread (new) messages inside, and, AFAIU, that's what the mailboxes statement is for. I followed the instructions at http://wiki.mutt.org/%3FMuttFaq/Maildir and most everything seems to be working fine, except mutt won't report mailboxes with unread messages (buffy-list doesn't return anything and the value of %b is 0). What could the problem be? I have mail_check and timeout set to sane values. One question that comes up is: is there a way to print the mailboxes variable to make sure it contains the desired folders? Is there a way, in general, to echo internal mutt variables? Cheers, S.M. --
new mail notification at startup (when there isn't any)
I recently set up my mutt to work via IMAP, and now I notice that for the first five seconds after I open mutt, I get the 2 boxes w/new mail (or, sometimes, 1 boxes w/new mail) notification in the index status bar. Then it disappears. This occurs when there is no new mail in any of my mailboxes. This mutt is being run from a NetBSD shell account that I access via ssh. This is almost certainly related to the new IMAP setup (the admin of this account only allows access to its mail server now via IMAP). What could be causing this, how can I stop it? Mutt 1.5.21 (2010-09-15) Copyright (C) 1996-2009 Michael R. Elkins and others. Mutt comes with ABSOLUTELY NO WARRANTY; for details type `mutt -vv'. Mutt is free software, and you are welcome to redistribute it under certain conditions; type `mutt -vv' for details. System: NetBSD 5.1 (amd64) slang: 10409 Compile options: -DOMAIN -DEBUG -HOMESPOOL -USE_SETGID +USE_DOTLOCK +DL_STANDALONE +USE_FCNTL -USE_FLOCK +USE_POP +USE_IMAP -USE_SMTP +USE_SSL_OPENSSL -USE_SSL_GNUTLS -USE_SASL -USE_GSS +HAVE_GETADDRINFO +HAVE_REGCOMP -USE_GNU_REGEX +HAVE_COLOR -HAVE_START_COLOR -HAVE_TYPEAHEAD -HAVE_BKGDSET -HAVE_CURS_SET -HAVE_META -HAVE_RESIZETERM +CRYPT_BACKEND_CLASSIC_PGP +CRYPT_BACKEND_CLASSIC_SMIME -CRYPT_BACKEND_GPGME -EXACT_ADDRESS -SUN_ATTACHMENT +ENABLE_NLS -LOCALES_HACK +HAVE_WC_FUNCS +HAVE_LANGINFO_CODESET +HAVE_LANGINFO_YESEXPR +HAVE_ICONV -ICONV_NONTRANS -HAVE_LIBIDN +HAVE_GETSID -USE_HCACHE ISPELL=/usr/pkg/bin/ispell SENDMAIL=/usr/sbin/sendmail MAILPATH=/var/mail PKGDATADIR=/usr/pkg/share/mutt SYSCONFDIR=/usr/pkg/etc EXECSHELL=/bin/sh -MIXMASTER To contact the developers, please mail to mutt-...@mutt.org. To report a bug, please visit http://bugs.mutt.org/. -- pgpvua12iMtk6.pgp Description: PGP signature
Re: [mutt] Re: Maildir on Cygwin - New mail notification
Thanks for all your help, I'll check on the Cygwon list and see if anyone else has this set-up working. It'll be something to compare against if they do. I'll post back here if/when I find anything else out. Just to update this, that I got no response from the Cygwin list, so it's still an issue. However, I'll be moving to Linux in the next month or so, so I've stopped looking into it and use a combination of mailstat an Popfile listing to monitor email, while important stuff uses a notifier. It's not great, but gets the job done. cheers, Adam -- ...one cannot be angry when one looks at a penguin. - John Ruskin
Re: mutt new mail notification
Hi, On Thu, Jun 11, 2009 at 10:10:55AM +0200, Christoph Ludwig wrote: [...] However, that triggered two further questions: 1) Is there a way to define custom mailbox shortcuts so I don't have to type in the full imaps URL every time I switch to a folder on the company server? The only workaround I see after reading section 4.7 of the manual is to define a number of aliases with fake addresses and make the folders on the company server the default save folder for these aliases. However, this seems a crude hack to me. I realized that binding the base URL to a key in the editor does exactly what I want: macro editor '#' imaps://company\\christoph\\christoph.lud...@company-dn/ 2) mutt checks for mail in the company mailbox only after I logged into the mailbox at least once and therefore entered my password. Is there a way to make mutt request the passwords for all accounts referenced in the mailboxes list at program start? I don't want to put the passwords in a configuration file. So that's the only issue left. Regards Christoph
Re: mutt new mail notification
Hi, On Mon, Jun 15, 2009 at 08:02:07PM +0200, Rocco Rutte wrote: * Christoph Ludwig wrote: imaps://company%2fchristoph%2fchristoph.lud...@example.com mutt still complains that it cannot find host COMPANY. This should work in hg tip with URL- and pine-syntax. Thanks! Regards Christoph
Re: mutt new mail notification
Hi, On Wed, Jun 10, 2009 at 11:15:43AM -0700, Brendan Cully wrote: On Wednesday, 10 June 2009 at 13:32, Christoph Ludwig wrote: On Tue, Jun 09, 2009 at 05:47:09PM -0400, Paul Hoffman wrote: On Tue, Jun 09, 2009 at 06:51:15PM +0200, Christoph Ludwig wrote: On Tue, Jun 09, 2009 at 10:15:04AM -0500, Kyle Wheeler wrote: [...] However, I have somewhat strange usernames. For instance, on one server in the Windows domain COMPANY I have an account christoph that's associated with the mailbox christoph.ludwig. Exchange expects me therefore to log on with the IMAP username COMPANY/christoph/christoph.ludwig. Due to the '/', I cannot put the username into the imaps-URL. That's no problem as long as I want to check only one IMAP server with such a username as I then simply set imap_user accordingly and state the simple usernames explicitly as part of the imaps-URL on the remaining accounts. It is not obvious (to me), though, how to deal with several IMAP accounts that have such usernames. What happens if you URL-encode the user name? imaps://company%2fchristoph%2fchristoph.lud...@example.com mutt still complains that it cannot find host COMPANY. My vague recollection is that windows usernames are separated by backslashes. How about imaps://company\\christoph\\christoph.lud...@example.com/ great, that works! I was not aware that Exchange accepts both forward and backward slashes as separators. The other working solution is to set account-hook as suggested by Kyle. However, that triggered two further questions: 1) Is there a way to define custom mailbox shortcuts so I don't have to type in the full imaps URL every time I switch to a folder on the company server? The only workaround I see after reading section 4.7 of the manual is to define a number of aliases with fake addresses and make the folders on the company server the default save folder for these aliases. However, this seems a crude hack to me. 2) mutt checks for mail in the company mailbox only after I logged into the mailbox at least once and therefore entered my password. Is there a way to make mutt request the passwords for all accounts referenced in the mailboxes list at program start? I don't want to put the passwords in a configuration file. Regards Christoph
Re: mutt new mail notification
Hi, * Christoph Ludwig wrote: 1) Is there a way to define custom mailbox shortcuts so I don't have to type in the full imaps URL every time I switch to a folder on the company server? The only workaround I see after reading section 4.7 of the manual is to define a number of aliases with fake addresses and make the folders on the company server the default save folder for these aliases. However, this seems a crude hack to me. I realized that binding the base URL to a key in the editor does exactly what I want: macro editor '#' imaps://company\\christoph\\christoph.lud...@company-dn/ Uh, that sounds the perfect use case for $folder. Have you looked at it? 2) mutt checks for mail in the company mailbox only after I logged into the mailbox at least once and therefore entered my password. Is there a way to make mutt request the passwords for all accounts referenced in the mailboxes list at program start? I don't want to put the passwords in a configuration file. Please have a look at the $imap_passive option. Rocco
Re: mutt new mail notification
Hi, On Tue, Jun 16, 2009 at 01:52:20PM +0200, Rocco Rutte wrote: * Christoph Ludwig wrote: 1) Is there a way to define custom mailbox shortcuts so I don't have to type in the full imaps URL every time I switch to a folder on the company server? The only workaround I see after reading section 4.7 of the manual is to define a number of aliases with fake addresses and make the folders on the company server the default save folder for these aliases. However, this seems a crude hack to me. I realized that binding the base URL to a key in the editor does exactly what I want: macro editor '#' imaps://company\\christoph\\christoph.lud...@company-dn/ Uh, that sounds the perfect use case for $folder. Have you looked at it? I am already using $folder for my private account. I often move mail between the various servers because the line between private and company email is often blurred and I want to store email that I receive in the account on the company server and vice versa or jump directly into a folder on the other server. So now I type =Abo.mutt-user or #Projects/someProject and mutt automatically knows which folder on which server I refer to, no matter on which server the current folder is. Do you see any issue with this approach that a more sophisticated use of $folder (possibly in combination with folder-hooks) could avoid? 2) mutt checks for mail in the company mailbox only after I logged into the mailbox at least once and therefore entered my password. Is there a way to make mutt request the passwords for all accounts referenced in the mailboxes list at program start? I don't want to put the passwords in a configuration file. Please have a look at the $imap_passive option. Thanks! It shows that it was several years ago that I last read the mutt manual from front to back... Christoph
Re: mutt new mail notification
Hi, * Christoph Ludwig wrote: On Tue, Jun 16, 2009 at 01:52:20PM +0200, Rocco Rutte wrote: [...] So now I type =Abo.mutt-user or #Projects/someProject and mutt automatically knows which folder on which server I refer to, no matter on which server the current folder is. Do you see any issue with this approach that a more sophisticated use of $folder (possibly in combination with folder-hooks) could avoid? No, you could redefine $folder using folder-hook but most people do that if they accounts are relatively separate. That isn't the case for you, so I guess no benefit from that approach. Please have a look at the $imap_passive option. Thanks! It shows that it was several years ago that I last read the mutt manual from front to back... Please use the development version's one and report back any errors you find and suggestions. Rocco
Re: mutt new mail notification
Hi, * Christoph Ludwig wrote: imaps://company%2fchristoph%2fchristoph.lud...@example.com mutt still complains that it cannot find host COMPANY. This should work in hg tip with URL- and pine-syntax. Rocco
Re: mutt new mail notification
Hi, * Brendan Cully wrote: My vague recollection is that windows usernames are separated by backslashes. How about imaps://company\\christoph\\christoph.lud...@example.com/ (you may need to adjust the quoting a bit) Do you have any idea why the code is parsing the URL, formats it to string, parses and parses that again. It does that several times, I think I saw it repeating that cycle at least 3 times for opening a single IMAP folder... URL-encoding slashes works for POP, btw. Rocco
Re: mutt new mail notification
Sorry, I did not pay attention and pressed 'r' instead of 'L'... - Forwarded message from Christoph Ludwig lud...@fh-worms.de - Date: Wed, 10 Jun 2009 13:29:03 +0200 From: Christoph Ludwig lud...@fh-worms.de To: Kyle Wheeler kyle-m...@memoryhole.net Subject: Re: mutt new mail notification Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Hi, On Tue, Jun 09, 2009 at 12:34:40PM -0500, Kyle Wheeler wrote: On Tuesday, June 9 at 06:51 PM, quoth Christoph Ludwig: I am in a similar situation as Chris: I need to monitor several IMAP mailboxes, some of them on Exchange server. I'd therefore need to provide a list of imaps-URLs to the mailboxes command. So far the manual is clear. However, I have somewhat strange usernames. For instance, on one server in the Windows domain COMPANY I have an account christoph that's associated with the mailbox christoph.ludwig. Exchange expects me therefore to log on with the IMAP username COMPANY/christoph/christoph.ludwig. Due to the '/', I cannot put the username into the imaps-URL. Have you tested that, or are you assuming that? I'm asking because I *think* mutt takes everything up to either a semicolon or the last @ symbol as the username. For example, I put my username in as u...@memoryhole.net@imap.memoryhole.net without trouble. Granted, my username doesn't have slashes in it, but I don't see why the slashes would cause trouble (other than maybe general slash and period bugs). I tried it - mutt complains that it cannot find the host COMPANY. That's no problem as long as I want to check only one IMAP server with such a username as I then simply set imap_user accordingly and state the simple usernames explicitly as part of the imaps-URL on the remaining accounts. It is not obvious (to me), though, how to deal with several IMAP accounts that have such usernames. Well, the other way to do it with mutt is to use account-hooks. For example: account-hook imap://exchange.server 'set imap_user=COMPANY/christoph/christoph.ludwig' mailboxes imap://exchange.server/INBOX imap://exchange.server/from_boss For details, check out the manual's description of account-hook (keep in mind that account-hooks trigger at unexpected times, so you don't want to do anything in them that doesn't have to do with contacting that account). Thanks, I will give the account hooks a try. Regards Christoph - End forwarded message - -- FH Worms - University of Applied Sciences Fachbereich Informatik / Telekommunikation Erenburgerstr. 19, 67549 Worms, Germany
Re: mutt new mail notification
Hi, On Tue, Jun 09, 2009 at 05:47:09PM -0400, Paul Hoffman wrote: On Tue, Jun 09, 2009 at 06:51:15PM +0200, Christoph Ludwig wrote: On Tue, Jun 09, 2009 at 10:15:04AM -0500, Kyle Wheeler wrote: On Tuesday, June 9 at 02:28 PM, quoth Chris: I'm using mutt v1.5.19 to check mails in MS Exchange IMAP folders. Is there any way I could get mutt to notify me of new mails on arrival on various IMAP folders? Read the manual, look for the command mailboxes. I am in a similar situation as Chris: I need to monitor several IMAP mailboxes, some of them on Exchange server. I'd therefore need to provide a list of imaps-URLs to the mailboxes command. So far the manual is clear. However, I have somewhat strange usernames. For instance, on one server in the Windows domain COMPANY I have an account christoph that's associated with the mailbox christoph.ludwig. Exchange expects me therefore to log on with the IMAP username COMPANY/christoph/christoph.ludwig. Due to the '/', I cannot put the username into the imaps-URL. That's no problem as long as I want to check only one IMAP server with such a username as I then simply set imap_user accordingly and state the simple usernames explicitly as part of the imaps-URL on the remaining accounts. It is not obvious (to me), though, how to deal with several IMAP accounts that have such usernames. What happens if you URL-encode the user name? imaps://company%2fchristoph%2fchristoph.lud...@example.com mutt still complains that it cannot find host COMPANY. Regards Christoph -- FH Worms - University of Applied Sciences Fachbereich Informatik / Telekommunikation Erenburgerstr. 19, 67549 Worms, Germany
Re: mutt new mail notification
Hi, * Kyle Wheeler wrote: I'm asking because I *think* mutt takes everything up to either a semicolon or the last @ symbol as the username. For example, I put my username in as u...@memoryhole.net@imap.memoryhole.net without trouble. Granted, my username doesn't have slashes in it, but I don't see why the slashes would cause trouble (other than maybe general slash and period bugs). Slahes cause trouble because mutt separates the user/pwd/hostname part from the path. Given: imaps://localhost/usern...@hostname/INBOX it's not clear that the username is supposed to be 'localhost/username'. Rocco
Re: mutt new mail notification
Hi,
* Christoph Ludwig wrote:
However, I have somewhat strange usernames. For instance, on one server in
the Windows domain COMPANY I have an account christoph that's associated
with the mailbox christoph.ludwig. Exchange expects me therefore to log on
with the IMAP username COMPANY/christoph/christoph.ludwig.
Due to the '/', I cannot put the username into the imaps-URL.
Besides the mentioned URL-encoding the username, you might also want to
give the pine-like syntax a try:
{foo/b...@hostname/ssl}INBOX/subfolder
Rocco
Re: mutt new mail notification
Hi,
On Wed, Jun 10, 2009 at 01:36:49PM +0200, Rocco Rutte wrote:
* Christoph Ludwig wrote:
However, I have somewhat strange usernames. For instance, on one server in
the Windows domain COMPANY I have an account christoph that's associated
with the mailbox christoph.ludwig. Exchange expects me therefore to log on
with the IMAP username COMPANY/christoph/christoph.ludwig.
Due to the '/', I cannot put the username into the imaps-URL.
Besides the mentioned URL-encoding the username, you might also want to
give the pine-like syntax a try:
{foo/b...@hostname/ssl}INBOX/subfolder
no joy, unfortunately.
Regards
Christoph
Re: mutt new mail notification
On Wednesday, 10 June 2009 at 13:32, Christoph Ludwig wrote: Hi, On Tue, Jun 09, 2009 at 05:47:09PM -0400, Paul Hoffman wrote: On Tue, Jun 09, 2009 at 06:51:15PM +0200, Christoph Ludwig wrote: On Tue, Jun 09, 2009 at 10:15:04AM -0500, Kyle Wheeler wrote: On Tuesday, June 9 at 02:28 PM, quoth Chris: I'm using mutt v1.5.19 to check mails in MS Exchange IMAP folders. Is there any way I could get mutt to notify me of new mails on arrival on various IMAP folders? Read the manual, look for the command mailboxes. I am in a similar situation as Chris: I need to monitor several IMAP mailboxes, some of them on Exchange server. I'd therefore need to provide a list of imaps-URLs to the mailboxes command. So far the manual is clear. However, I have somewhat strange usernames. For instance, on one server in the Windows domain COMPANY I have an account christoph that's associated with the mailbox christoph.ludwig. Exchange expects me therefore to log on with the IMAP username COMPANY/christoph/christoph.ludwig. Due to the '/', I cannot put the username into the imaps-URL. That's no problem as long as I want to check only one IMAP server with such a username as I then simply set imap_user accordingly and state the simple usernames explicitly as part of the imaps-URL on the remaining accounts. It is not obvious (to me), though, how to deal with several IMAP accounts that have such usernames. What happens if you URL-encode the user name? imaps://company%2fchristoph%2fchristoph.lud...@example.com mutt still complains that it cannot find host COMPANY. My vague recollection is that windows usernames are separated by backslashes. How about imaps://company\\christoph\\christoph.lud...@example.com/ (you may need to adjust the quoting a bit)
Re: mutt new mail notification
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA256 On Tuesday, June 9 at 02:28 PM, quoth Chris: I'm using mutt v1.5.19 to check mails in MS Exchange IMAP folders. Is there any way I could get mutt to notify me of new mails on arrival on various IMAP folders? Read the manual, look for the command mailboxes. ~Kyle - -- In the beginning the Universe was created. This has made a lot of people very angry and been widely regarded as a bad move. -- Douglas Adams -BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE- Comment: Thank you for using encryption! iQIcBAEBCAAGBQJKLnxyAAoJECuveozR/AWenA4QAJ5Dc8OMh4uZymlQQ1gpOOds hb/2eKjwDIhLT8+nI+FkmJ+plPx4mSDzs+afMjQ9Xv42QHiuY3rJjR4w2nnW4ToJ MAMJprivmhEXqQ2v64ugZMnEWv+dkj/e6QZvKRpqap3cZfGeNWBC8OFMsoh2NYy2 YJt4xN3iqC9LTR27+igyEzw/miOxm4Q3qPGSgzXbJdP3jqS34Mvp62U1FFvORvsA dYe2LZ1Uq18hNZXmO1jhNZYftyDSslHzlOoTwtHq+8hW35H000ifqmXO/jmrzvR9 WfZmy1c1jtP0so+YoEiFA4w1WzYjlB/GGPMbg4nL/Pjkb6g0ezOIys6MtHT4BRBF Pq3bYmsU3Lqbe8jbuBLXd7W4VfUvEVofXgVa8d3AYDqy2UWETs9CES1NiUKtdn2E S1AM+B+gvadIEurSxecez3vz06hwBWkpqqNDqO969t0KXnDsVf1n1QD6tUp/0k1T i3E0egZvzxP5b4+Qp+q6acaoQuYdNiypZbWU1JiM2knIE0WEYZsft1YswAlV8mrI AqkSMsTCIhwpFQ7wInyiqg1OZl1IIfTtcWiMvmIbDQmkVomgDJCfNXKH53cSB1bS UxzWTwyw1PZsEQYH+46L6/bUd/Uy3fCWSWsHoXvlHXPvdq3unrHOoXJw3kSxdTRv rf6xM/4K2RwU46soXYLS =rgSw -END PGP SIGNATURE-
Re: mutt new mail notification
On Tue, Jun 09, 2009 at 10:15:04AM -0500, Kyle Wheeler wrote: On Tuesday, June 9 at 02:28 PM, quoth Chris: I'm using mutt v1.5.19 to check mails in MS Exchange IMAP folders. Is there any way I could get mutt to notify me of new mails on arrival on various IMAP folders? Read the manual, look for the command mailboxes. I am in a similar situation as Chris: I need to monitor several IMAP mailboxes, some of them on Exchange server. I'd therefore need to provide a list of imaps-URLs to the mailboxes command. So far the manual is clear. However, I have somewhat strange usernames. For instance, on one server in the Windows domain COMPANY I have an account christoph that's associated with the mailbox christoph.ludwig. Exchange expects me therefore to log on with the IMAP username COMPANY/christoph/christoph.ludwig. Due to the '/', I cannot put the username into the imaps-URL. That's no problem as long as I want to check only one IMAP server with such a username as I then simply set imap_user accordingly and state the simple usernames explicitly as part of the imaps-URL on the remaining accounts. It is not obvious (to me), though, how to deal with several IMAP accounts that have such usernames. Regards Christoph
Re: mutt new mail notification
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA256 On Tuesday, June 9 at 06:51 PM, quoth Christoph Ludwig: I am in a similar situation as Chris: I need to monitor several IMAP mailboxes, some of them on Exchange server. I'd therefore need to provide a list of imaps-URLs to the mailboxes command. So far the manual is clear. However, I have somewhat strange usernames. For instance, on one server in the Windows domain COMPANY I have an account christoph that's associated with the mailbox christoph.ludwig. Exchange expects me therefore to log on with the IMAP username COMPANY/christoph/christoph.ludwig. Due to the '/', I cannot put the username into the imaps-URL. Have you tested that, or are you assuming that? I'm asking because I *think* mutt takes everything up to either a semicolon or the last @ symbol as the username. For example, I put my username in as u...@memoryhole.net@imap.memoryhole.net without trouble. Granted, my username doesn't have slashes in it, but I don't see why the slashes would cause trouble (other than maybe general slash and period bugs). That's no problem as long as I want to check only one IMAP server with such a username as I then simply set imap_user accordingly and state the simple usernames explicitly as part of the imaps-URL on the remaining accounts. It is not obvious (to me), though, how to deal with several IMAP accounts that have such usernames. Well, the other way to do it with mutt is to use account-hooks. For example: account-hook imap://exchange.server 'set imap_user=COMPANY/christoph/christoph.ludwig' mailboxes imap://exchange.server/INBOX imap://exchange.server/from_boss For details, check out the manual's description of account-hook (keep in mind that account-hooks trigger at unexpected times, so you don't want to do anything in them that doesn't have to do with contacting that account). ~Kyle - -- Art, I suppose, is only for beginners, who have made up in their minds to be content with symbols rather than with what they signify, with the elegantly composed recipe in lieu of actual dinner. -- Aldous Huxley -BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE- Comment: Thank you for using encryption! iQIcBAEBCAAGBQJKLp0vAAoJECuveozR/AWegiQQAImCz+bS30AJEFVbhgtRrTCy kkr6Ts4qnx+r2iplFEqCN7OX46jL/tb5c3i4wpJfZzJ+sDbo6taaScVRVYTc+JJr i0ZFO9EngS8z3CC2IERPLJW0HvieHKm69EMxx/K6rjdXiEWo7aqKTfcmg8nEAuDz n8WcO9tUc49ub0fSPnRx854Er1OiVPJHKtQU2LINFeY4L1s6ioy0c2O4BV0DHKxn Tdxpu6XjKhDT3xGt3uE4oh26hjbXHwXU+n7Ho3In+6lI1eDYCDAhspKSwjlSs28v bFjjC10OUzTs9d9qyjZl8K82azY+fNNLppqZJMZ07wXY1T/hUWMCdnn2n9ZazV/l IC78gWo1nCGDp/eu18zB1H7zbN8RGykmNFjNLFOQz4PQZstFc0Kx9yhGPbpIdzZl 9ZZ2jG7oXHlqDkU5jYydSIfi1viMTS19jhHO6NEbQTWsDMZh/MArN4Pz0SwKrTQt jx109KjrGJseIsdl42wZmC6k2pjNj5MFCuwcXdoie4KLYO1SYED82uQrrY0hTHYe YSDSEbnmOSuJ20k1ADnrTjD1n8jCPvxhspP+b+PZZGQ+fxgaP1TuT4zGMc1LBIxD XtLGITV7FR43yT8UxSv0oL7gbeD5E7OXs9p7pL/gU6oChO51OTV+xinSNnLMvK2E y9w7zX/c1wwf9oCqH6Ut =5oCd -END PGP SIGNATURE-
Re: mutt new mail notification
On Tue, Jun 09, 2009 at 06:51:15PM +0200, Christoph Ludwig wrote: On Tue, Jun 09, 2009 at 10:15:04AM -0500, Kyle Wheeler wrote: On Tuesday, June 9 at 02:28 PM, quoth Chris: I'm using mutt v1.5.19 to check mails in MS Exchange IMAP folders. Is there any way I could get mutt to notify me of new mails on arrival on various IMAP folders? Read the manual, look for the command mailboxes. I am in a similar situation as Chris: I need to monitor several IMAP mailboxes, some of them on Exchange server. I'd therefore need to provide a list of imaps-URLs to the mailboxes command. So far the manual is clear. However, I have somewhat strange usernames. For instance, on one server in the Windows domain COMPANY I have an account christoph that's associated with the mailbox christoph.ludwig. Exchange expects me therefore to log on with the IMAP username COMPANY/christoph/christoph.ludwig. Due to the '/', I cannot put the username into the imaps-URL. That's no problem as long as I want to check only one IMAP server with such a username as I then simply set imap_user accordingly and state the simple usernames explicitly as part of the imaps-URL on the remaining accounts. It is not obvious (to me), though, how to deal with several IMAP accounts that have such usernames. What happens if you URL-encode the user name? imaps://company%2fchristoph%2fchristoph.lud...@example.com Paul. -- Paul Hoffman nkui...@nkuitse.com
mutt new mail notification
I'm using mutt v1.5.19 to check mails in MS Exchange IMAP folders. Is there any way I could get mutt to notify me of new mails on arrival on various IMAP folders? Thanks.
Re: [mutt] Re: Maildir on Cygwin - New mail notification
Hi, * Adam Wellings wrote: mail_check=5 timeout=30 TBH those settings come from someone else's muttrc. These are default values and look okay. Does the problem persist even after you switch folders? If so, I guess the only to find out who's to be blamed is to try a non-managed mount. Rocco
Re: [mutt] Re: Maildir on Cygwin - New mail notification
Hello These are default values and look okay. Does the problem persist even Yes, I always have to go into individual folders to see new mail. I am using an external method to see what new mail is coming in, but it's not ideal. after you switch folders? If so, I guess the only to find out who's to be blamed is to try a non-managed mount. I was worried you'd say that. AFAIK the only way to run maildir format under Cygwin is to use a managed mount as Windows can't handle the filenames. Thanks for all your help, I'll check on the Cygwon list and see if anyone else has this set-up working. It'll be something to compare against if they do. I'll post back here if/when I find anything else out. cheers, Adam -- ...one cannot be angry when one looks at a penguin. - John Ruskin
Re: Maildir on Cygwin - New mail notification
Hi, * Adam Wellings wrote: The new mail is marked within the folders, eg if new mail arrives in the current directory, it gets marked as new and mutt tells me it's there. New mail in other directories is marked as new when I viist it, but the directory is not marked, and none of the switch to dirs with new mail commands work. Then I suspect it doesn't get flagged with 'N' in the folder browser, too? I'm guessing that this could be something to do with Cygwin and the managed mount, but as I'm not sure what mutt does to check for mail in the new dir, I don't know how to check this. I don't know C (well enough) to check in the code. To detect new mail in maildirs, mutt looks at the new/ subdirectory. There, it tries to find a file that does not have :2, in its name, or if it has, doesn't contain T after the comma. (the :2, thing means that a mail's flags follow, the T flag means trashed, i.e. deleted -- mutt looks for one non-trashed message in new/). It would be helpful if you could use ls(1) to see what the filenames look like. Rocco
Re: [mutt] Re: Maildir on Cygwin - New mail notification
Hi Rocco, there. New mail in other directories is marked as new when I viist it, but the directory is not marked, and none of the switch to dirs with new mail commands work. Then I suspect it doesn't get flagged with 'N' in the folder browser, too? Sorry, yes that's what I meant. My bad. To detect new mail in maildirs, mutt looks at the new/ subdirectory. There, it tries to find a file that does not have :2, in its name, or if it has, doesn't contain T after the comma. (the :2, thing means that a mail's flags follow, the T flag means trashed, i.e. deleted -- mutt looks for one non-trashed message in new/). It would be helpful if you could use ls(1) to see what the filenames look like. Picking one mail folder at random, in the new directory they are all of the format: 1234567890.1234_0.HOSTNAME In the cur directory they are roughly of the format: 1234567890.1234_0.HOSTNAME:2,S (or RS) 1234567890.1234_123.HOSTNAME:2,S etc. cheers, Adam -- ...one cannot be angry when one looks at a penguin. - John Ruskin
Re: [mutt] Re: Maildir on Cygwin - New mail notification
Hi, * Adam Wellings wrote: It would be helpful if you could use ls(1) to see what the filenames look like. Picking one mail folder at random, in the new directory they are all of the format: 1234567890.1234_0.HOSTNAME In the cur directory they are roughly of the format: 1234567890.1234_0.HOSTNAME:2,S (or RS) 1234567890.1234_123.HOSTNAME:2,S That all looks okay, i.e. it should work. What are your values of $timeout and $mail_check? Maybe mutt just didn't check for new mail yet? Rocco
Re: [mutt] Re: Maildir on Cygwin - New mail notification
That all looks okay, i.e. it should work. What are your values of $timeout and $mail_check? Maybe mutt just didn't check for new mail yet? mail_check=5 timeout=30 TBH those settings come from someone else's muttrc. cheers, Adam -- ...one cannot be angry when one looks at a penguin. - John Ruskin
Maildir on Cygwin - New mail notification
Hello, I'm running mutt on Cygwin (v. 1.5). I'm using the standard packages version supplied by Cygwin, 1.4.2.2i. My mail directory is Maildir mounted on a managed partition to cope with the naming convention. My Windows system is XP. My mailboxes command is supplied absolute paths: find ~/Maildir -type d -name cur -printf '%h ' My maildir hierarchy has a reasonably involved tree structure, but each actual directory is a leaf so they only have tmp, new cur directories. The mail is delivered by procmail. The new mail is marked within the folders, eg if new mail arrives in the current directory, it gets marked as new and mutt tells me it's there. New mail in other directories is marked as new when I viist it, but the directory is not marked, and none of the switch to dirs with new mail commands work. I've done a lot of searching on this and not found any answer. Though I've seen others with similar issues, I've not yet seen anything that resolves mine. I'm guessing that this could be something to do with Cygwin and the managed mount, but as I'm not sure what mutt does to check for mail in the new dir, I don't know how to check this. I don't know C (well enough) to check in the code. Is anyone else using this set-up or know what issues or settings to look at? I realise I might need to take this across to Cygwin to resolve but thought I should make sure I've not got any mutt settings wrong and/or work out what mutt needs, first. cheers, Adam -- ...one cannot be angry when one looks at a penguin. - John Ruskin
Re: New mail notification problems
Ken, et al -- ...and then Ken Weingold said... % ... % % I don't have a setting for mark_old at all. I see sometimes something % flash about new mail, but the status bar never says anything, or % moving the indicator bar or something makes it disappear. Could the % server (Panix) be running something that is messing up mutt with % respect to reporting new mail? It's certainly possible... Forgive the upcoming review of how mutt determines the new-mail-ness of a folder, but since this has been discussed numerous times and the question still comes up it seems worth it. When a mail folder is read, it access time (atime) is updated. That clears the count, so to speak, and mutt figures that that's the last time the folder was seen and so that's the time to beat for new mail. When a mail folder is written, such as by new mail delivery, the modification time (mtime) is updated. mutt compares the mtime with the atime and if the former is later then it figures you have had new mail arrive and it so marks the folder. This method of checking is a good thing, because it doesn't matter how big the folder is; the time to check is fixed. It is not so good, though, because anything that updates the atime will break it. Past experience has shown that there are *lots* of things that can update the atime. Your mission, should you choose to accept it, is to find what's doing that and stop it. It could be your shell, a biff program, a backup program, or who knows what. You can test out this theory by using touch to update the atime backwards or the mtime forwards to force the new mail condition and then have mutt look at it and see whether or not it's flagged. Hey, it's possible that your mutt has a problem; let's find out. You may recall your own problems with this on your nfs-mounted mail spool some time back. Another possibility is that the disk server's clock and the login server's clock are not in sync. % % Thanks. HTH HAND % % % -Ken Man, it must be put things in quotes day here at my house. Weird. :-D -- David T-G * It's easier to fight for one's principles (play) [EMAIL PROTECTED] * than to live up to them. -- fortune cookie (work) [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://www.justpickone.org/davidtg/Shpx gur Pbzzhavpngvbaf Qrprapl Npg! msg30397/pgp0.pgp Description: PGP signature
Re: New mail notification problems
On Wed, Aug 21, 2002, David T-G wrote: You may recall your own problems with this on your nfs-mounted mail spool some time back. Another possibility is that the disk server's clock and the login server's clock are not in sync. Different server completely. :) Thanks for the explanation, David. I will look into it. -Ken
Re: New mail notification problems
* On Mon, 19 Aug 2002, John Iverson wrote: The only known issue (afaik) about Mutt *not* reporting new mail is when the user has unset mark_old in their configuration. In this case a message that would ordinarily be marked as old is still new, but won't be detected with the file modification/access time heuristic. I don't know if it's related, but I've noticed the following behavior which was briefly discussed here before: When you switch from Mailbox A (index or pager view) to the folder list view, Mutt won't show the N flag next to Mailbox A when there is new mail in it. It doesn't seem to matter whether the new mail was already there or if it arrives while in folder list view. If you then switch to Mailbox B and back to folder view, the N flag for Mailbox A works again (but now Mailbox B has the same issue). Can anyone say whether this is a feature or bug? I'm using Maildir folders with set mark_old=no, if that's relevant. How about this question, then: Does anyone's Mutt correctly indicate new mail in Mailbox A in the above scenario? If it's normal behavior and not a bug in my setup, I suspect Mutt considers that you are still viewing Mailbox A until you choose another one, and this has something to do with it. But the mailbox browser screen is misleading in this case, to me. Maybe a special current mailbox symbol next to Mailbox A would be better than just nothing, which wrongly indicates the lack of new mail. -- John
Re: New mail notification problems
John Iverson said: * On Mon, 19 Aug 2002, Mike Leone wrote: I use Maildir with IMAP, and I see *no* new mail notifications on the folders at all. When I open the mailbox (maildir), yes - the index or pager shows new messages. But using the c command to switch folders only ever shows the name of the folder, and not a new mail notification symbol. You're saying that you do see a new mail indicator on Maildir (i.e., IMAP) folders? Maildir, but not IMAP (perhaps I misused a term somewhere). No, you can use Maildir format when not using IMAP. I used to use local Maildir format mailboxes (which are, in reality, directories) with a POP account. I'm referring to the mailbox browser screen which appears when you press ? after pressing c. Yes, that's what I'm referring to, as well. Yes, I do see the new mail indicators, except for the mailbox I just came from. (Doesn't matter if I press tab to switch between mailbox and file views.) When I first start mutt with mutt -y (i.e. there is no last-visited mailbox), the new mail indicators for all mailboxes seem to work. My indicators never work, but perhaps that's because they're IMAP folders, on a remote machine (my mail server). Just curious if this is normal behavior or not. There did not seem to be a conclusion last time it was discussed, and I thought it possible that this is what the original poster was experiencing. -- PGP Fingerprint: 0AA8 DC47 CB63 AE3F C739 6BF9 9AB4 1EF6 5AA5 BCDF Member, LEAF Project http://leaf.sourceforge.netAIM: MikeLeone These are the memories which make me a wealthy soul ... Random Thought: --
Re: New mail notification problems
Sven Guckes wrote: * Ken Weingold [EMAIL PROTECTED] [2002-08-18 08:44]: What would make mutt not report that there is new mail when there is? Sometimes I will find that it indicates that there is no new mail, yet when I change to some folders, there is. i recall some problems about modification tims vs the file system. and there were patches. i suppose you can search through the messages in the bug tracking system - but.. it's Sunday. The access time (atime) problem is usually the other way around: reporting new mail when there really isn't any. The only known issue (afaik) about Mutt *not* reporting new mail is when the user has unset mark_old in their configuration. In this case a message that would ordinarily be marked as old is still new, but won't be detected with the file modification/access time heuristic.
Re: New mail notification problems
On Mon, Aug 19, 2002, Michael Elkins wrote: The only known issue (afaik) about Mutt *not* reporting new mail is when the user has unset mark_old in their configuration. In this case a message that would ordinarily be marked as old is still new, but won't be detected with the file modification/access time heuristic. I don't have a setting for mark_old at all. I see sometimes something flash about new mail, but the status bar never says anything, or moving the indicator bar or something makes it disappear. Could the server (Panix) be running something that is messing up mutt with respect to reporting new mail? Thanks. -Ken
Re: New mail notification problems
* On Mon, 19 Aug 2002, Michael Elkins wrote: The only known issue (afaik) about Mutt *not* reporting new mail is when the user has unset mark_old in their configuration. In this case a message that would ordinarily be marked as old is still new, but won't be detected with the file modification/access time heuristic. I don't know if it's related, but I've noticed the following behavior which was briefly discussed here before: When you switch from Mailbox A (index or pager view) to the folder list view, Mutt won't show the N flag next to Mailbox A when there is new mail in it. It doesn't seem to matter whether the new mail was already there or if it arrives while in folder list view. If you then switch to Mailbox B and back to folder view, the N flag for Mailbox A works again (but now Mailbox B has the same issue). Can anyone say whether this is a feature or bug? I'm using Maildir folders with set mark_old=no, if that's relevant. -- John
Re: New mail notification problems
* John Iverson ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) wrote this on 08 19, 02 at 16:43: * On Mon, 19 Aug 2002, Michael Elkins wrote: The only known issue (afaik) about Mutt *not* reporting new mail is when the user has unset mark_old in their configuration. In this case a message that would ordinarily be marked as old is still new, but won't be detected with the file modification/access time heuristic. I don't know if it's related, but I've noticed the following behavior which was briefly discussed here before: When you switch from Mailbox A (index or pager view) to the folder list view, Mutt won't show the N flag next to Mailbox A when there is new mail in it. It doesn't seem to matter whether the new mail was already there or if it arrives while in folder list view. If you then switch to Mailbox B and back to folder view, the N flag for Mailbox A works again (but now Mailbox B has the same issue). Can anyone say whether this is a feature or bug? I'm using Maildir folders with set mark_old=no, if that's relevant. I use Maildir with IMAP, and I see *no* new mail notifications on the folders at all. When I open the mailbox (maildir), yes - the index or pager shows new messages. But using the c command to switch folders only ever shows the name of the folder, and not a new mail notification symbol. You're saying that you do see a new mail indicator on Maildir (i.e., IMAP) folders?
New mail notification problems
What would make mutt not report that there is new mail when there is? Sometimes I will find that it indicates that there is no new mail, yet when I change to some folders, there is. Thanks. -Ken
Re: New mail notification problems
* Ken Weingold [EMAIL PROTECTED] [2002-08-18 08:44]: What would make mutt not report that there is new mail when there is? Sometimes I will find that it indicates that there is no new mail, yet when I change to some folders, there is. feature. i just haven't found out why. ;-) i recall some problems about modification tims vs the file system. and there were patches. i suppose you can search through the messages in the bug tracking system - but.. it's Sunday. Sven
Re: New mail notification problems
On Sun, Aug 18, 2002, Sven Guckes wrote: feature. i just haven't found out why. ;-) Ack. :-/ i recall some problems about modification tims vs the file system. and there were patches. i suppose you can search through the messages in the bug tracking system - but.. it's Sunday. Yeah, that's what work is for. ;-) I will look into it. Thanks, Sven. -Ken
Re: New Mail Notification Not Showing in Folder View
Andy Saxena [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On Thu, May 09, 2002 at 02:27:42AM -0700, Will Yardley wrote: do you have: mailboxes +me +linux +other +mailboxes +here in your .muttrc ? Or: mailboxes `echo $HOME/Mail/*' Well, take a look a this: mailboxes +debian-news +debian-security +debian-testing +irssi-user \ +irssi-dev +mutt-announce +mutt-user +mutt-dev +mp3encoder \ +freshmeat-news +slrn-user +tolkien +mbox +inbox +outbox \ +cron +postikaista +yacde +logcheck +erpnotes I think I'll check out that example of yours. Although, according to the logic of it I'm going to see one directory and a folder for spam in the mailbox view in browser, which I probably wouldn't want to... -- Jussi Ekholm [EMAIL PROTECTED] | GNU/Linux user number 269376 http://erppimaa.cjb.net/~ekhowl/ | ICQ UIN: 156057281 ekh on IRCnet | GnuPG Public Key ID: 1410081E msg28291/pgp0.pgp Description: PGP signature
Re: New Mail Notification Not Showing in Folder View
On Thu, May 09, 2002 at 02:27:42AM -0700, Will Yardley wrote: [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: When I get new mail in a folder I do not get a notification N symbol appearing in my folders list q:Exit c:Chdir m:Mask ?:Help 1 drwx-- 15 tony tony 4096 May 10 04:36 ../ 2 -rw--- 1 tony tony 43859 May 10 04:27 sent 3 -rw--- 1 tony tony 0 May 10 04:20 me 4 -rw--- 1 tony tony 0 May 10 04:20 linux I have in my muttrc file set folder_format=%2C %t %N %F %2l %-8.8u %-8.8g %8s %d %f which I thought would work with the N option. Any ideas how to get the N new mail notification symbol to be displayed do you have: mailboxes +me +linux +other +mailboxes +here in your .muttrc ? Or: mailboxes `echo $HOME/Mail/*' -Andy
Re: New Mail Notification Not Showing in Folder View
Hi All, I am a new reader of this list and I have the same problem. I use mutt since one year and I like it. I updated to mutt 1.3.27i and use the config from my old Version. Now I do not get any notification in my folders. In my .muttrc I have triedone of this: mailboxes ! +mbox +debian +lug-kiel +privat +buecher mailboxes ! +~/Mail mailboxes `for file in ~/Mail/*; do echo -n +~/Mail/$(basename $file) ; done` mailboxes `echo $HOME/Mail/*' but nothing work. Any ideas? Greetings Soeren * Andy Saxena schrieb am 20 Mai 2002: On Thu, May 09, 2002 at 02:27:42AM -0700, Will Yardley wrote: [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: When I get new mail in a folder I do not get a notification N symbol appearing in my folders list q:Exit c:Chdir m:Mask ?:Help 1 drwx-- 15 tony tony 4096 May 10 04:36 ../ 2 -rw--- 1 tony tony 43859 May 10 04:27 sent 3 -rw--- 1 tony tony 0 May 10 04:20 me 4 -rw--- 1 tony tony 0 May 10 04:20 linux I have in my muttrc file set folder_format=%2C %t %N %F %2l %-8.8u %-8.8g %8s %d %f which I thought would work with the N option. Any ideas how to get the N new mail notification symbol to be displayed do you have: mailboxes +me +linux +other +mailboxes +here in your .muttrc ? Or: mailboxes `echo $HOME/Mail/*' -Andy -- ~~~ ~ Soeren Mindorf ~ ~ Industriemeister der Elektrotechnik ~ ~ Wrangelstrasse 33 ~ ~ 24105 Kiel ~ ~ E-Mail1: [EMAIL PROTECTED] ~ ~ E-Mail2: [EMAIL PROTECTED]~ ~ Homepage: http://www.mindorf.org~ ~~~
New mail notification ideas
One thing that I've always missed since I switched from pine to mutt was pine's more verbose e-mail notification. Instead of just saying New mail in this mailbox. it would say something like: [New mail from Philip Mak re New mail notification ideas] Also, pine checks for new mail when it is in the pager. In mutt's case, it doesn't, so if I stay inside the pager for hours then I won't see any new messages. I would like to suggest that these features (verbose new e-mail notification line, and check for new mail while in the pager) be implemented in mutt.
Maildir and new mail notification
Hi Since changing to Maildir format, I have noticed some odd behaviour - if I am in a folder while it receives new mail, I don't get notified. If I change to another folder, I immediately get notified of any new mail in the first folder. What have I missed? A. -- Homepage: http://ailbhe.ossifrage.net/
Re: Maildir and new mail notification
* Ailbhe Leamy [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Hi Since changing to Maildir format, I have noticed some odd behaviour - if I am in a folder while it receives new mail, I don't get notified. If I change to another folder, I immediately get notified of any new mail in the first folder. What have I missed? There are three vars that might be interesting: # variable : timeout (number) # default : 600 # # This variable controls the number of seconds Mutt will wait for # a key to be pressed in the main menu before timing out and checking # for new mail. A value of zero or less will cause Mutt not to ever # time out. # variable : check_new (boolean) # default : yes # # Note: this option only affects maildir and MH style # mailboxes. # # When set, Mutt will check for new mail delivered while the # mailbox is open. Especially with MH mailboxes, this operation can # take quite some time since it involves scanning the directory and # checking each file to see if it has already been looked at. If # check_new is unset, no check for new mail is performed # while the mailbox is open. # variable : mail_check (number) # default : 5 # # This variable configures how often (in seconds) mutt should look for # new mail. Curt -- Any time things appear to be going better, you have overlooked something.
Re: fcc folder new mail notification
Hi, On Wed, 21 Nov 2001 René [EMAIL PROTECTED] spewed into the ether: [-- snip --] But, however, when I am _not_ in my friends folder, and send mail to that friend, Mutt thinks that I have new mail in that folder. Of course (, Rob, ;-) Mutt is right in thinking that, but it does confuse me a bit (whow, a reply *that* fast?). What's a reasonable workaround for this? AFAIK, there isn't. Even if there was, it wouldn't really be a feasable option. Because, what you are in effect asking for is for Mutt to look into your folder, see if the mail is from you or not, and accordingly tell you (in the browser) if it has new mail or not. That would involve quite a bit of unnecessary overhead, especially if the said folder is a particularly big one. Even if you did setup a macro to do that, you would have to _enter_ the folder, and hence the browser will not show you if you have new mail in that folder no matter who sent it - Yes, now we're back to the 'New vs. Unread mail' debate :-) Your best option I guess, would be to just put your sent mail into a 'sent-mail.friends-name' folder, or some such, and exclude this from your 'mailboxes' list. HTH, pv. -- Prahlad Vaidyanathan [EMAIL PROTECTED]What, me worry ? http://www.symonds.net/~prahladv/Don't Panic ! -- msg20639/pgp0.pgp Description: PGP signature
Re: fcc folder new mail notification
* Prahlad Vaidyanathan [EMAIL PROTECTED] [23-11-2001 15:28]: | [-- snip --] | But, however, when I am _not_ in my friends folder, and send mail to | that friend, Mutt thinks that I have new mail in that folder. Of | course (, Rob, ;-) Mutt is right in thinking that, but it does confuse | me a bit (whow, a reply *that* fast?). | | What's a reasonable workaround for this? | | AFAIK, there isn't. Even if there was, it wouldn't really be a feasable | option. Because, what you are in effect asking for is for Mutt to | look into your folder, see if the mail is from you or not, and | accordingly tell you (in the browser) if it has new mail or not. | | That would involve quite a bit of unnecessary overhead, especially if | the said folder is a particularly big one. I agree! | Even if you did setup a macro to do that, you would have to _enter_ the | folder, and hence the browser will not show you if you have new mail in | that folder no matter who sent it - | Yes, now we're back to the 'New vs. Unread mail' debate :-) Let's avoid that ;) Well, just one remark: Mutt _does_ mark the fcc'ed mail as read. It's just that the mtime of the file is changed... So this is another debate... 'no new, no unread mail in the mbox (according to Mutt), but still new mail (according to Mutt)' ;-) | Your best option I guess, would be to just put your sent mail into a | 'sent-mail.friends-name' folder, or some such, and exclude this from | your 'mailboxes' list. But that was the problem: I want them in one mailbox, so I can view the thread ;) -- René Clerc - ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) The distance between insanity and genius is measured only by success. -James Bond, Tomorrow Never Dies msg20640/pgp0.pgp Description: PGP signature
fcc folder new mail notification
Hi all, this probably has come up, but I couldn't find it. I looked for it, honestly!! ;-) When I send mail to a particular friend, I set the fcc folder to the folder in which procmail delivers mail from this friend. This folder is listed in my 'mailboxes' directive. But, however, when I am _not_ in my friends folder, and send mail to that friend, Mutt thinks that I have new mail in that folder. Of course (, Rob, ;-) Mutt is right in thinking that, but it does confuse me a bit (whow, a reply *that* fast?). What's a reasonable workaround for this? Thanks, -- René Clerc - ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) If you have to resort to violence, you've already lost. -Sean Connery, Rising Sun msg20599/pgp0.pgp Description: PGP signature
Re: fcc folder new mail notification
Ren? Clerc wrote: When I send mail to a particular friend, I set the fcc folder to the folder in which procmail delivers mail from this friend. This folder is listed in my 'mailboxes' directive. But, however, when I am _not_ in my friends folder, and send mail to that friend, Mutt thinks that I have new mail in that folder. Of course (, Rob, ;-) Mutt is right in thinking that, but it does confuse me a bit (whow, a reply *that* fast?). What's a reasonable workaround for this? i could be wrong, but i don't think there's a way to do this with mbox delivery (unless mutt can somehow copy messages to an mbox without modifying the mbox's modification time. however if you use maildir (which might be a pain to switch to / undesirable for other reasons) i think you will get the desired behavior. w -- GPG Public Key: http://infinitejazz.net/will/pgp/
Re: fcc folder new mail notification
* Will Yardley [EMAIL PROTECTED] [21-11-2001 20:28]: | When I send mail to a particular friend, I set the fcc folder to the | folder in which procmail delivers mail from this friend. This folder | is listed in my 'mailboxes' directive. | | But, however, when I am _not_ in my friends folder, and send mail to | that friend, Mutt thinks that I have new mail in that folder. Of | course (, Rob, ;-) Mutt is right in thinking that, but it does confuse | me a bit (whow, a reply *that* fast?). | | What's a reasonable workaround for this? | | i could be wrong, but i don't think there's a way to do this with mbox | delivery (unless mutt can somehow copy messages to an mbox without | modifying the mbox's modification time. I don't believe it can :( | however if you use maildir (which might be a pain to switch to / | undesirable for other reasons) i think you will get the desired | behavior. That's the problem: I have a very old HD, small, and all seperate mails will fill my HD up in no time... Thanks anyway, -- René Clerc - ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) Eat one live toad the first thing in the morning and nothing worse will happen to you the rest of the day. [Well, actually, to either of you... Ed.] msg20606/pgp0.pgp Description: PGP signature
Re: fcc folder new mail notification
On 11-21 20:55, René Clerc wrote: * Will Yardley [EMAIL PROTECTED] [21-11-2001 20:28]: | When I send mail to a particular friend, I set the fcc folder to the | folder in which procmail delivers mail from this friend. This folder | is listed in my 'mailboxes' directive. | | But, however, when I am _not_ in my friends folder, and send mail to | that friend, Mutt thinks that I have new mail in that folder. Of | course (, Rob, ;-) Mutt is right in thinking that, but it does confuse | me a bit (whow, a reply *that* fast?). | | What's a reasonable workaround for this? | | i could be wrong, but i don't think there's a way to do this with mbox | delivery (unless mutt can somehow copy messages to an mbox without | modifying the mbox's modification time. I don't believe it can :( Can't you use touch to do this? Somehow figure out original time, store that, then call touch -m with original time? I don't know enough about mutt to know if hooks will permit you to call a shell script at the right times to do this, however. Just a thought. -- Sean LeBlanc:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Yahoo:seanleblancathome ICQ:138565743 MSN:seanleblancathome AIM:sleblancathome However, never daunted, I will cope with adversity in my traditional manner... sulking and nausea. -Tom K. Ryan (contributed by Chris Johnston) Management QOTD:Be interrupt driven with regards to the technology strategy!!
Re: mailboxes and new mail notification
quoting Mark Hill: I've added these mailboxes to ~/.muttrc like so: #mailboxes mailboxes ! mailboxes =blackbox Again, thanks for all the help, I've learnt a few good mailboxes tricks. :) if you're not sure, full path to the mailbox can be used, like this: mailboxes /var/spool/mail/azzazel #azzazel is spool mailbox mailboxes /home/azzazel/Mail/inbox#azzazel is user etc... When you try to change mailbox with 'c', hit TAB and mutt will show you list of mailboxes configured in muttrc. -- Best regards, poz. azz.
Re: mailboxes and new mail notification
Hi Mark, On Sun, Aug 19, 2001 at 01:59:34AM +0100, Mark Hill wrote: Hello, I'm trying to get mutt to tell me if there is any new mail in an mbox folder. AFAIK, new messages come up when I go to change in to another dir, but instead mutt says 'mailboxes [0]' (or something like that.) I've added these mailboxes to ~/.muttrc like so: #mailboxes [...] mailboxes =sent-mail mailboxes /var/spool/mail/mark Personally I just do: mailboxes +mailbox1 +mailbox2 +mailbox3 And it works great, I press 'c' to change mailbox, and it will go to a mailbox which has new messages. - Morten. -- Morten Brix Pedersen [EMAIL PROTECTED] - http://www.wtf.dk/hp/ Copenhagen, Denmark. -- Programmer, Scout, Geek.
Re: mailboxes and new mail notification
Mark Hill mutt [19/08/01 01:59 +0100]: #mailboxes mailboxes ! mailboxes =blackbox Try mailboxes `echo $HOME/Mail/*` -suresh
Re: mailboxes and new mail notification
On Sun, Aug 19, 2001, Mark Hill wrote: On Sun, Aug 19, 2001 at 07:26:11AM +0530, Suresh Ramasubramanian wrote: Mark Hill mutt [19/08/01 01:59 +0100]: #mailboxes mailboxes ! mailboxes =blackbox Try mailboxes `echo $HOME/Mail/*` -suresh Okay, I'm not too sure if this works as my ~/Mail/procmail.log was picked up as having new mail (I used it as mailbox previously.) I moved it somewhere else, expecting other folders to picked up, but they weren't. I'll wait for some 'real' new mail and see what happens. :) You can do it all on one line. And '!' means your spool folder. Try: mailboxes ! =blackbox HTH -Ken ps: please set some sort of line wrapping in your editor
New mail notification while in pager?
Is it possible to get a new mail notification while Mutt is in its pager (while reading a message)? Right now I only get notified while in index view. -- Wille PGP signature
Re: New mail notification
On Wed, Jan 17, 2001 at 08:48:23AM +0530, Suresh Ramasubramanian wrote: Jeffrey A Schoolcraft proclaimed on mutt-users that: sorry, forgot the ! mailboxes ! `for file in ~/mail/*; do echo -n "+$(basename $file) "; done` instead - try mailboxes `echo $HOME/Mail/*` it works just fine :) I just wish there would be a way to unspecify mailboxes after doing something like that. Like 'SPAM' and 'outbox'. I usually end up doing hairy sed scripts, when something like; mailboxes `echo $HOME/Mail/*` mailboxes -SPAM -outbox Perhaps it is possible, I just missed it? //Fredde
Re: New mail notification
On Wed, Jan 17, 2001 at 08:48:23AM +0530, Suresh Ramasubramanian wrote: Jeffrey A Schoolcraft proclaimed on mutt-users that: sorry, forgot the ! mailboxes ! `for file in ~/mail/*; do echo -n "+$(basename $file) "; done` instead - try mailboxes `echo $HOME/Mail/*` it works just fine :) I just wish there would be a way to unspecify mailboxes after doing something like that. Like 'SPAM' and 'outbox'. I usually end up doing hairy sed scripts, when something like; mailboxes `echo $HOME/Mail/*` mailboxes -SPAM -outbox Perhaps it is possible, I just missed it? //Fredde
Re: New mail notification
On Wed, Jan 17, 2001 at 09:29:53AM +0100, Fredrik Jagenheim wrote: I just wish there would be a way to unspecify mailboxes after doing something like that. Like 'SPAM' and 'outbox'. I usually end up doing hairy sed scripts, when something like; mailboxes `echo $HOME/Mail/*` mailboxes -SPAM -outbox Perhaps it is possible, I just missed it? How about something like: , | echo $HOME/Mail/* | tr " " "\n" | grep -Ev "not wanted" | tr "\n" " " ` Where not wanted is the list of boxes you don't want. eg: , | grep -Ev "SPAM|outbox" ` -- Dave Pearson: | mutt.octet.filter - autoview octet-streams http://www.davep.org/ | mutt.vcard.filter - autoview simple vcards Mutt: | muttrc2html - muttrc - HTML utility http://www.davep.org/mutt/ | muttrc.sl - Jed muttrc mode
Re: New mail notification
Dave Pearson proclaimed on mutt-users that: Where not wanted is the list of boxes you don't want. eg: , | grep -Ev "SPAM|outbox" ` simple - and brilliant :) -suresh -- Suresh Ramasubramanian + Wallopus Malletus Indigenensis mallet @ cluestick.org + Lumber Cartel of India, tinlcI EMail Sturmbannfuhrer, Lower Middle Class Unix Sysadmin
New mail notification
Dear all... I have this entry in my .muttrc: mailboxes ! =dsniff ="@freebsd.org" ="@mutt.org" ="pau-mikro" \ ="@postfix.org" ="@redhat.com" "@securityfocus.com" "libwww" "vpopmail" Unfortunately not all mailboxes notify me when new mail arrives. Only the first 7!?! Is there some limitation of the mailboxes sum? Or is there something I must tweak? FYI using Mutt 1.2.5i Thanks... /john
Re: New mail notification
On Wed, Jan 17, 2001 at 01:30:34AM +, Dave Pearson wrote: Could it be pure coincidence that it's only the first seven that are full paths (well, shortcuts to full paths) while the rest aren't? :-) I don't quite get your point. All those mailboxes reside in $HOME/mail. None of them are symlinks. I use procmail. /john
Re: New mail notification
you might want to do something like this then: mailboxes `for file in ~/mail/*; do echo -n "+$(basename $file) "; done` works for me. Jeff
Re: New mail notification
sorry, forgot the ! mailboxes ! `for file in ~/mail/*; do echo -n "+$(basename $file) "; done` Jeffrey A Schoolcraft ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) wrote: you might want to do something like this then: mailboxes `for file in ~/mail/*; do echo -n "+$(basename $file) "; done` works for me. Jeff
Re: New mail notification
Jeffrey A Schoolcraft proclaimed on mutt-users that: sorry, forgot the ! mailboxes ! `for file in ~/mail/*; do echo -n "+$(basename $file) "; done` instead - try mailboxes `echo $HOME/Mail/*` it works just fine :) --suresh -- Suresh Ramasubramanian + Wallopus Malletus Indigenensis mallet @ cluestick.org + Lumber Cartel of India, tinlcI EMail Sturmbannfuhrer, Lower Middle Class Unix Sysadmin
Re: New mail notification
On Wed, Feb 09, 2000 at 02:21:13PM -0600, David DeSimone wrote: If you use Maildir folders, Mutt will always be able to easily tell if there is new mail. If this is feasible for you, you should go ahead and switch to Maildir format. Thanks a lot! I have found a perl script to convert mbox 2 maildir and I will try to convert my old mail (if you know of any other conversion tool, please let me know). Regards, Xavi
Re: New mail notification
On Thu, Feb 10, 2000 at 11:57:35 +0100, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I have found a perl script to convert mbox 2 maildir and I will try to convert my old mail (if you know of any other conversion tool, please let me know). I know one called Mutt. :-) Open the mailbox to be converted, and type the command ":set mbox_type=maildir" so newly created mailboxes will be maildirs. Then tag all messages with "T." and copy them to a new maildir mailbox with ";C". -- Byrial
Re: New mail notification
On Wed, Feb 09, 2000 at 02:21:13PM -0600, David DeSimone wrote: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Mutt does notify me when I run it (in the new=x, folders with new mail). The problem is that when I change to that folder and leave without having read all the new mail, mutt will tell me that I have no folders with new mail. I think this is a limitation of mbox folders. The only 'easy' way to determine if there is new mail, is to check the access time, and reading the folder causes that time to be changed. It may not be the case on all UNIXes. As I posted before, I have used procmail and mbox folders on SGI/IRIX and mailboxes with new mail were being detected correctly. I moved to a different server with SunOS (same .muttrc, same .procmailrc) and new mail detection stopped working. I can do touch -m on mailboxes before I open mutt but that's the only time new mail detection works :-( Regards, Petr
New mail notification
I am using procmail to automatically deliver part of my incoming mail in certain mailboxes. I want mutt to notify me when any of these mailboxes get new mail, so I have added mailbox my_mailbox to my .muttrc. Mutt does notify me when I run it (in the new=x, folders with new mail). The problem is that when I change to that folder and leave without having read all the new mail, mutt will tell me that I have no folders with new mail. I have set set nomark_old so that the unread mail appears as new when I enter the mailbox. It does not work either. I am using mbox-type mailboxes, and I know that the mutt detects if they have new mail comparing the modification time with the access time, so that the problem seems to be that the access time always changes, even when I have not finished reading all the mail. Does anyone have know how could I get mutt to do what I want? Should I change the mailbox format (MMDF, MH, Maildir) to do this? Thanks the
Re: New mail notification
[EMAIL PROTECTED] [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote on Wed, 09 Feb 2000: Does anyone have know how could I get mutt to do what I want? Should I change the mailbox format (MMDF, MH, Maildir) to do this? I use Maildir, and saving "old new" emails works fine, and Mutt reports new mail in these folders correctly. On the other hand, I'm running a Mutt with a patch to turn $mark_old into a quadoption which also does some other changes to this area of Mutt code, so maybe it won't work with standard Mutt. Regards, Mikko -- // Mikko Hänninen, aka. Wizzu // [EMAIL PROTECTED] // http://www.iki.fi/wiz/ // The Corrs list maintainer // net.freak // DALnet IRC operator / // Interests: roleplaying, Linux, the Net, fantasy scifi, the Corrs / "The last good thing written in C was Franz Schubert's Symphony #9."
Re: New mail notification
[EMAIL PROTECTED] [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Mutt does notify me when I run it (in the new=x, folders with new mail). The problem is that when I change to that folder and leave without having read all the new mail, mutt will tell me that I have no folders with new mail. I think this is a limitation of mbox folders. The only 'easy' way to determine if there is new mail, is to check the access time, and reading the folder causes that time to be changed. Mutt could try to actually read every folder you tell it, and look for messages with the proper Status, but that would be slow, and you probably wouldn't like it. Does anyone have know how could I get mutt to do what I want? Should I change the mailbox format (MMDF, MH, Maildir) to do this? If you use Maildir folders, Mutt will always be able to easily tell if there is new mail. If this is feasible for you, you should go ahead and switch to Maildir format. -- David DeSimone | "The doctrine of human equality reposes on this: [EMAIL PROTECTED] | that there is no man really clever who has not Hewlett-Packard | found that he is stupid." -- Gilbert K. Chesterson UX WTEC Engineer |PGP: 5B 47 34 9F 3B 9A B0 0D AB A6 15 F1 BB BE 8C 44
New mail notification
What's involved with setting up new mail notification? Here's what I have in my .muttrc: set mail_check=10 mailboxes ! `echo $HOME/Mail/*` It doesn't seem to notice new mail in my spoolfile. If I'm inside the spoolfile, the new mail shows up when I hit a key. Is it possible to get it to show up without hitting the keyboard? If it's checking every 10 seconds, can't it update the screen automatically? However, if I'm in some other mailbox, I have to manually go to the spoolfile to see if I have mail. What's the point of mail notification if you have to check manually? (c: Am I missing something? Thanks, John P.S.--I'm not using POP mail or fetchmail.
Re: New mail notification
John R Sheets [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: It doesn't seem to notice new mail in my spoolfile. If I'm inside the spoolfile, the new mail shows up when I hit a key. Is it possible to get it to show up without hitting the keyboard? There is a setting called "timeout" that tells Mutt how long to wait for input, and if that timeout expires, Mutt will do its new-mail check. So there is "mail_check" that tells Mutt how often it should scan all your folders while you're hitting keys (you wouldn't want it to look EVERY time you hit a key), and then there is "timeout" that tells Mutt how often it should give up waiting for you to hit a key, so that it can scan for more mail. -- David DeSimone | "The doctrine of human equality reposes on this: [EMAIL PROTECTED] | that there is no man really clever who has not Hewlett-Packard | found that he is stupid." -- Gilbert K. Chesterson Convex Division |PGP: 5B 47 34 9F 3B 9A B0 0D AB A6 15 F1 BB BE 8C 44
Re: new mail notification for IMAP folders..
On Thursday, 18 November 1999 at 16:42, John P . Looney wrote: I'm using 1.1.1, with an IMAP server. I've noticed that the "new mail" notification isn't 100%. By "new mail", I mean the messages on the bottom line, and the fact that when I want to change folder, it offers a folder with new mail as a default. This works excellently for mbox mail. On IMAP, it works sometimes. I'm not really sure when it works, and when it doesn't. It just seems that on the folder browsing screens (which rock!), it rarely has an 'N' to denote a folder with new/unread mail. Does it ever? I don't remember adding any support for 'N' in the browser :) I don't think it's supported - I can put that into the TODO (forgot about that feature actually). But the notification on the command line and when you cycle through your folders with ' ' when you press 'c' should be pretty solid. Note mutt only polls folders you've given to the 'mailboxes' command in the .muttrc. -- Brendan Cully [EMAIL PROTECTED] | OLD SKOOL ROOLZ "I'll level with you: | .-_|\ Please let me on your show, I'd | / \ Like a day off school"| Perth -*.--._/
