winders email client.

2004-01-23 Thread Ron Thomas

have you tried firebird?

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Bill

The line breaks get removed from *incoming* mail, so I don't think it
matters what your default new mail format is.  I think its a new 'feature'
in Outlook 2003 - I found this quote in the 'Whats new in Microsoft Office'
in online help: -
Extra line breaks automatically removed in messages   Sometimes plain text
messages that travel over the Internet acquire extra line breaks that make
the message difficult to read. Outlook automatically removes the extra line
breaks so it's easier to read the message.

Ouch

that, sir, is an understatement.;-)  just wish i could fine an email client
that would deal with MAPI other than Outlook.  here at work we don't have
IMAP enabled so i don't seem to have much choice.;-)

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RE: winders email client.

2004-01-23 Thread Ron Thomas

Yup.  Answered this without drinking coffee first...

Firebird, aka phoenix-  one of the best browsers out there.  I use it exclusively.
Thunderbird- email client.  I read IMAP not MAPI in your email.

Slithering back to my hole...

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firebird is a web browser without an email client.  thunderbird is the email
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RE: winders email client.

2004-01-23 Thread Ron Thomas

email client- http://texturizer.net/thunderbird/
browser- http://texturizer.net/firebird/


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Re: !!Please Read - Oracle-L is moving!!

2004-01-22 Thread Ron Thomas

The list members must be really hammering their servers now.  I've tried to sign up 
using both the
web and email methods and have yet to receive a conformation/response.

I can see the headlines now, oracle-l slashdots freelists.org

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RE: Oracle 817 client on Windows 2003?

2004-01-21 Thread Ron Thomas

From metlink, it looks like the 8.1.7 client is not certified for Windows 2003 
server.  You should
probably install the 9.2 client on the workstations.  It should ahve no problems 
connecting to the
8.1.7 database on unix.

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Re: Apps 11.5.9 D.R. Site -- MetaLink Note 216212.1 ??

2004-01-05 Thread Ron Thomas

Looks fairly close.  I'll be doing this over the next couple of weeks.  If interested, 
I'll let you
know how it all turns out.

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There seems to be Note 216212.1 titled Disaster Recovery and the
E-business Suite
Has anyone used this note ?

{Although I am familiar with 11.5.3, the last time I worked on 11i was more
than two years ago,
so I am not in touch with 11i , although I do manage an 11.0.3 instance now}

Hemant

At 03:34 PM 30-12-03 -0800, you wrote:
I've been charged with bringing up a disaster recovery site, so time to
hit the books again as a lot
has changed since the last time I did this. Looking for resource
recommendations (FM to read, white
papers, etc).

Sticky part of this is it is an Applications 11.5.9 installation.  The
database end of it should not
be too difficult (8.1.7.4, soon to be 9.2.0.4), but the applications file
system is modified by the
adpatch utility which adpatch requires a database connection to
function.  I can think of 2 ways to
get around this requirement.
1. set the two_task to point to a live test system, and run adpatch force
using the c and g drivers.
The d driver would not need to be run since the changes will come over via
the archive logs.
2. ignore adpatch utility completely and use rsync.

Suggestion, comments?

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Re: Apps 11.5.9 Disater Recovery Site

2003-12-31 Thread Ron Thomas

Hi Tanel-

I've been doing 11.5 cloning for several years and think I've found most (but I'm sure 
not all) of
the database and filesystem changes required.

adpatch is what concerns me the most since it requires a database connection to 
function.  It can't
connect to the DR database since it will be in a recovery mode.  I'm thinking that 
setting the
two_task to a service that points back to the production system would work.  You bring 
up an
interesting question though.  c, d, and g drivers are very specific in the functions 
they perform.
Now that Oracle is moving to the u driver, I'll need to look into this.

I was looking at rsync as an alternative to the above.  rsync would also be used to 
transfer the
concurrent reports (/.../common/out) to the DR system (don't know if management want 
this yet or
not).

Time for coffee  not sure if I'm making sence yet.

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One issue popped into my mind with patching  disaster recovery:

When you're patching your primary system, have applied all c  g and d
drivers (or an u driver) and a disaster occurs, then your secondary site
might remain in inconsistent state e.g. database objects have the new
version, but corresponding $APPL_TOP ones are old, because they're not
rsynced yet.

Or the opposite - when rsync has been done, but you have to do a point in
time recovery to the point before d-patch application in secondary site.

And of course, don't forget to simulate and test the disaster, several
times, if possible. Without warning, if possible ;)

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 I've been charged with bringing up a disaster recovery site, so time to
hit the books again as a lot
 has changed since the last time I did this. Looking for resource
recommendations (FM to read, white
 papers, etc).

 Sticky part of this is it is an Applications 11.5.9 installation.  The
database end of it should not
 be too difficult (8.1.7.4, soon to be 9.2.0.4), but the applications file
system is modified by the
 adpatch utility which adpatch requires a database connection to function.
I can think of 2 ways to
 get around this requirement.
 1. set the two_task to point to a live test system, and run adpatch force
using the c and g drivers.
 The d driver would not need to be run since the changes will come over via
the archive logs.
 2. ignore adpatch utility completely and use rsync.

 Suggestion, comments?

 Thanks,.
 Ron Thomas
 Hypercom, Inc
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Re: Apps 11.5.9 Disater Recovery Site

2003-12-31 Thread Ron Thomas

Hi again-

Why do you want to patch anything at disaster recovery site at all?
When you apply any d-patches in primary, their changes will be transferred
to secondary via redologs.
When you apply any cg-patches in primary, you just use rsync to synchronize
all changes to secondary site file system as well.
There is no need for running adpatch in secondary site at all.

This is what I was thinking as well.  Just wondering if anyone had done this.

Have a good New Years
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Re: Oracle OID and Production Databases Sharing the same

2003-12-30 Thread Ron Thomas

I'll agree that you can run multiple instance out of 1 oracle home, however, I've 
found it to be
simpler to use a dedicated oracle home per instance.  Disk space is cheap (relatively 
speeking).

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Tom,
 I see no problem that would prevent you from having multiple instances
in the Oracle home. You would need multiple Oracle homes if you had
different version of Oracle. With one Oracle home and multiple instances
you have to be sure to include all instances in the shutdown and start
up scripts or at least have a check list to insure all instances are
down or up. Adding the java stuff should not effect the other instance
if the init parameters are set correctly. It will make life easier to
keep the Oracle software up to date with only one home.
I like the KISS syndrome.
Ron

 [EMAIL PROTECTED] 12/30/2003 1:34:49 PM 
All,

We have a AIX 5.2 box serving a new 9.2 database.  We also installed
the OID
software on this box.  Oid requires it's own database.  So we have two
instances on this machine.

We received notice from Oracle that a security patch (#62) was
required.  We
were applying the patch and it failed because some Java stuff needed to
be
installed separatly first.

Now I'm wondering if we should have created two Oracle Homes - one for
the
production database and one for the OID database.  I'm worried that we
will
always have problems keeping these two instances sharing the same
Oracle
home.

Anybody got an opinion?

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Apps 11.5.9 Disater Recovery Site

2003-12-30 Thread Ron Thomas
I've been charged with bringing up a disaster recovery site, so time to hit the books 
again as a lot
has changed since the last time I did this. Looking for resource recommendations (FM 
to read, white
papers, etc).

Sticky part of this is it is an Applications 11.5.9 installation.  The database end of 
it should not
be too difficult (8.1.7.4, soon to be 9.2.0.4), but the applications file system is 
modified by the
adpatch utility which adpatch requires a database connection to function.  I can think 
of 2 ways to
get around this requirement.
1. set the two_task to point to a live test system, and run adpatch force using the c 
and g drivers.
The d driver would not need to be run since the changes will come over via the archive 
logs.
2. ignore adpatch utility completely and use rsync.

Suggestion, comments?

Thanks,.
Ron Thomas
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Re: Oracle 9i reports

2003-12-18 Thread Ron Thomas

This was true even for 6i after about patchset 6, IIRC.  Many notes on metalink 
concerning this.

In a nutshell..
1. install VNC
2. start a vnc server at a specific screen address, such as 11
3. add a export DISPLAY=host:11 to the .profile of the reports server.
4. go have a beer.

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Hi All,

Can you please clarify me the following.

We have been using reports 6i on Solaries, Now We
would like to migrate to Reports 9i, We are told that
(As Character set was depricated in 9i ) we need to
keep one xterm console open and ruuning every time we
execute rwrun. is this true? are there any
work-around?

thanks for your help,
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RE: SQL Query

2003-11-14 Thread Ron Thomas

Be aware that this script does not include autoexted info

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Below is a very nice tablespace script, followed by some sample output.
Thought you might like it.  I found in somewhere.


REM name: freespace.sql
REM This script is used to list database freespace, total database
REM space, largest extent, fragments and percent freespace.
REM
REM  Usage sqlplus system/passwd @freespace
REM
REM Date  CreateDescription
REM 30-Oct-96Fan Zhang  Initial creation
REM
REM  dba tool key: freespace.sql -- list database freespace, total space
and percent free
REM

set pau off
set pages 35
set lines 120

col tablespace  heading 'Tablespace'
col freeheading 'Free|(Mb)' format 9.9
col total   heading 'Total|(Mb)'format 99.9
col usedheading 'Used|(Mb)' format 9.9
col pct_freeheading 'Pct|Free'  format 9.9
col pct_nextheading 'Pct|Next'  format 9.9
col largest heading 'Largest|(Mb)'  format 9.9
col nextheading 'Next|Ext(Mb)'  format 9.9
col fragmentheading 'Fragment'  format 999
col extents heading 'Max.|Ext.' format 999
spool freespace.txt


compute sum of total on report
compute sum of free on report
compute sum of used on report

break on report

select  substr(a.tablespace_name,1,13) tablespace,
round(sum(a.total1)/(1024*1024), 1) Total,
round(sum(a.total1)/(1024*1024),
1)-round(sum(a.sum1)/(1024*1024), 1) used,
round(sum(a.sum1)/(1024*1024), 1) free,
round(sum(a.sum1)/(1024*1024),
1)*100/round(sum(a.total1)/(1024*1024), 1) pct_free,
round(sum(a.maxb)/(1024*1024), 1) largest,
round(sum(a.next1)/(1024*1024), 1) Next,
round(sum(a.next1)/(1024*1024),
1)*100/round(sum(a.maxb)/(1024*1024), 1) pct_next,
max(a.max_ext) extents,
max(a.cnt) fragment
from
(select tablespace_name,
0 total1,
sum(bytes) sum1,
max(bytes) MAXB,
count(bytes) cnt,
0 next1,
0 max_ext
fromdba_free_space
group by tablespace_name
union
select  tablespace_name,
sum(bytes) total1,
0,
0,
0,
0,
0
fromdba_data_files
group by tablespace_name
union
select tablespace_name,
0,
0,
0,
0,
max(next_extent) next1,
max(extents) max_ext
from dba_segments
group by tablespace_name) a
group

Re: sqlplus prompt question in 9i

2003-10-29 Thread Ron Thomas

As a further FYI-

We do not allow anything to be placed in glogin.sql.  It can screw up anything 
supplied by oracle,
ie, upgrade scripts.  A local login.sql is the best way to go.

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You could just use login.sql instead, on a per user basis.

If you don't want login.sql to be used, just edit or unset SQLPATH.

Maybe other options available for this in 9i.  A perusal of the sqlplus
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Hi:

With Oracle 8i, I always modified $ORACLE_HOME/sqlplus/admin/glogin.sql,
and
added

set termout off
col site_name noprint new_value site_name_new
select 'SQL ' site_name from dual;
selectuser
   || substr(proc.program, instr(proc.program,'@'),
 instr(proc.program,' ') - instr(proc.program,'@'))
   || '-SQL ' site_name
from v$process proc
where proc.pid = 2;
set sqlprompt 'site_name_new'
set termout on

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SQL

I found that doing this in 9i will prevent me starting up my instance,
when
I use

sqlplus '/as sysdba'

In 8i, I always used svrmgrl to bounce db so there was no problem with
modified glogin.sql.

Has anyone found a work-around in 9i so that sqlplus prompt displays
username and hostname when launched? I know there is a new
_CONNECT_IDENTIFIER in 9i, but that's not good enough.

TIA.

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Re: how is it possible

2003-10-24 Thread Ron Thomas

I see this from time to time on our HP systems.  The terminal emulator on the client 
gets out of
sync with the host, especially in regards to CTL-H and the Backspace key.  I've seen 
this caused by
applications that set the emulator into raw mode (Oracle Applications 10.7 character) 
and then back
as well as su - user ... exit.

That CTL-H trick embedded in a filename is how I test our Jr admins.  Yes... I can be 
a tad evil at
times...

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Thanks Ron ,
This worked . But do you know why it happens . As I said its happening third
time with me . My unix screen behaves weired sometimes it doesn't print any
character I type and some time it prints characters which I never type ( in
this particular case ).

Thanks,
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 This generally happens when there is a CTL-H embedded in the filename.
Try

 mv *m* anotherfilename

 You should be able to get at it after that.

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 This happening with me 3 rd time on this hp box . When I do ls -alt I can
see a file in current
 directory but when I try to open it (vi/cat ) it says no such file or
directory .  I am same user
 who created the file .. ( no permission problem )

 Any idea ??

 -ak





 /home/ak/myscripts/shell_scr $ ls -alt
 total 4
 drwxrwxrwx   2 ak   dba 96 Oct 23 14:40 .
 -rwxrwxrwx   1 ak   dba412 Oct 23 14:40 mon_scr
 drwxr-x---  10 ak   dba   1024 Oct 13 16:07 ..

  /home/ak/myscripts/shell_scr $ cat mon_scr
 cat: Cannot open mon_scr: No such file or directory

  /home/ak/myscripts/shell_scr $ cat ./mon_scr
 cat: Cannot open ./mon_scr: No such file or directory

 /home/ak/myscripts/shell_scr $

 /home/ak/shell_scr $ whoami
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RE: dba interview questions

2003-10-23 Thread Ron Thomas

African or European?

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Mladen --

I'm *stunned* you missed the most obvious of all DBA 101 questions...

What is the average air velocity of an unladen swallow?

Bambi.

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1) What does it mean to grokkk?
2) What is the answer to the question of life, universe and everything?
3) What happened to Sauron when  he flipped the bird to Izildur?
4) What is the monolyth and what was its effect on the resident apes?
5) What is damagement? What color of the database saves memory?
6) What can you tell me about lord Edmund Blackadder?

Chances are that if someone answers those questions correctly, you've
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Re: how is it possible

2003-10-23 Thread Ron Thomas

This generally happens when there is a CTL-H embedded in the filename.  Try

mv *m* anotherfilename

You should be able to get at it after that.

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This happening with me 3 rd time on this hp box . When I do ls -alt I can see a file 
in current
directory but when I try to open it (vi/cat ) it says no such file or directory .  I 
am same user
who created the file .. ( no permission problem )

Any idea ??

-ak





/home/ak/myscripts/shell_scr $ ls -alt
total 4
drwxrwxrwx   2 ak   dba 96 Oct 23 14:40 .
-rwxrwxrwx   1 ak   dba412 Oct 23 14:40 mon_scr
drwxr-x---  10 ak   dba   1024 Oct 13 16:07 ..

 /home/ak/myscripts/shell_scr $ cat mon_scr
cat: Cannot open mon_scr: No such file or directory

 /home/ak/myscripts/shell_scr $ cat ./mon_scr
cat: Cannot open ./mon_scr: No such file or directory

/home/ak/myscripts/shell_scr $

/home/ak/shell_scr $ whoami
ak





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RE: How to add ' (comma) at the begining and end of each line? Ei

2003-10-16 Thread Ron Thomas

Let's not forget about ed

ed your_file EOF
,s!^!'!g
,s!\$!',!g
w
q
EOF

if memory serves correctly.

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Since there has been an AWK reply, there should be a SED reply too.
(Perl?  What's Perl?)

sed s/^/'/; s/\$/'/ your_file

sed 's/^/'\''/; s/$/'\''/' your_file


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 Hi List

 I have 1000 lines in my data file. I want to add
 '(comma) at the begining and end of each line.

 For example,

 abf
 jd
 djkhk
 jd3

 Shold be convrted to

 'abf',
 'jd',
 'djkhk',
 'jd3',

 Any help will be really appreciated.

 Thanks
 Sami

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RE: RE: Cary's Book - new topic

2003-10-15 Thread Ron Thomas

John-

Just got back from a vacation and saw this...  Our jr DBA is in the process of doing 
this.  Care to
share your code???

Thanks,
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Raj (and all who use Oracle's Trace analyzer,

I 'converted' the trace analzyer tables to GTTs, and no longer had the space
issues with large trace files. This is because the data is stored
'temporarily' and is used for reporting in a subsequent SQL in the same
session stream, and not reused elsewhere. Haven't really measured
performance improvement, but this should ride on all the advantages that GTT
provides.

FWIW!
John Kanagaraj
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Phone: 408-970-7002 (W)

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Thanks,

I have been using that tool for a long time now, it needs a big tablespace
(cause everything is loaded in tables) and puts a load on the server. It is
good for smaller files, but takes too long on larger files.

Nevertheless it is a great utility.
Raj


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go to metalink and check out trace analyzer. ITs a new tool for analyzing
10046 traces. Has ALOT more detail than tkprof. Major improvement. Its on
metalink.





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RE: URGENT REPORTS

2003-09-24 Thread Ron Thomas

You can't.  As of about a year or so ago, there must be a buffer available for 
reports.  vnc works
nicley for this.  Many notes/articles on Metalink concerning this.

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Never mind.  Was a bad rep_mdmdmd.conf file.

However, does anyone know if there is a way to run reports services without
have a DISPLAY variable set?  We don't have a dedicated machine for this one
purpose.

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  REP-110: Unable to open file 'alc4.rep'.
REP-1070: Error while opening or saving a document.
REP-0110: Unable to open file 'alc4.rep'.






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RE: Apps 11.5.8 and 9i

2003-09-23 Thread Ron Thomas

Step 1:  have your head examined!

Step 2: All components of Oracle Applications comes on the 22+ CD pack, ie, you don't 
need to order
the DB or iAS.

Have fun!

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22 CDs huh? Any one know where to get free trial software for Apps?
Anyone want to burn me 22 CDs? Just kidding...

I haven't work with Financials since 10.7 and feel like I am rapidly losing my 
financials skills. I
want to set this up at home. I figure I would use it for my personal accounting (I 
know overkill)
but I need SOME reason to use it.

It looks like I can order this from the Oracle store for a nominal price, however, I 
need some help
in figuring out what to order.

Based on the URL: 
http://oraclestore.oracle.com/OA_HTML/ibeCCtpSctDspRte.jsp?section=11536 , Here
are the things I think I require:

 Oracle 9i Database (9.2.0.1) CD Pack for MS Windows
$0   (downloaded this software previously)

$55.93 Oracle Applications 11i Release 9 CD Pack for MS Windows

$13.93 Oracle Applications 11i Release 9 Update CD Pack for MS windows

And probably one of (but which one?):

- Oracle 9i Application Server, Release 2 (9.2.0.1) CD Pack for MS Windows
- Oracle 9i Application Server, Version 1.0.2.2.2a CD Pack for MS Windows

Does this look right or are there other components I will also need?
Thanks in Advance

- Babette
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Tanel,

You're absolutely right.  I had really meant to say that the 8.0.6 software
stack finally goes away, but stated it poorly.  Unfortunately, I was wrong
even there, as the 8.0.6 software stack remains, as you've indicated.  All I
can say is that I was in the db-tier environment when looking for it, not in
the app-tier as I should have been.  Sloppy work and sloppy assumptions.
Unskyld!

But the Jinitiator is still nowhere to be seen, at least the stuff I've
played with (i.e. Conc Mgr forms, SYSADMIN stuff, etc).  I've not seen any
documentation to confirm this though...

11.5.9 installs the db-tier in v9.2.0.3, but (not unexpectedly) the database
that is scraped out of the 22-CD set of installation CDs is not set up very
intelligently.  For example, the locally-managed tablespaces have all been
migrated from dictionary-managed instead of created as UNIFORM or
AUTOALLOCATE, which leaves some interesting anomalies for the conscientious
DBA, such as NEXT_EXTENT settings which are larger than any of the
non-autoextend-enabled datafiles.  Yay! for using locally-managed, boo!
for migrating instead of doing it right.  Kind of like asking kids to pick
up their clothes -- they just move them from the floor to and place them
under the bed, making the floor clean but not improving the process of
getting clean clothes back into the closet and drawers.  Anyway, this is the
case in some 70-odd tablespaces.  I'm sure this situation has always been
present, but it makes one wonder whether Oracle ever consulted a practicing
Apps DBA when burning its pre-installed databases onto the CDs.  Still, 2
steps forward, 1 step back...

Maybe

Re: Re[2]: 10g: SQL Plus

2003-09-22 Thread Ron Thomas

Cut and paste works just fine using the command line sql*plus and an X window manager. 
 I suppose if
you are using the Windows window manager, your milage varies...

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PB Losing the pseudo-GUI version would be a a drag, because it's so easy
PB to copy and paste text in it (not so easy in a Windows command prompt).

Yeah, I have to admit, I probably execute more scripts via
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Re: Apps 11.5.8 and 9i

2003-09-20 Thread Ron Thomas

I doubt it the jinitiator will ever go away for forms.  It is Oracle's method of 
insuring an
appropriate JVM on the client machine.

FWIW, Sun's JVM 1.4.2 works out of the box for linux systems.  No tweeks in the 
appsweb.cfg file at
all!

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The FormsReports are still there, the main part of Apps will continue using
them long time. I've not touched 11.5.9 yet, maybe they've modified new
installation config that way it doesn't require jinitiator on Windows
platforms anymore, but the java forms you see, are still generated using
Oracle Forms (with the exception of SSF, self service framework, which is
HTMLjsp) and reports are still run using Oracle Reports.

Tanel.

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 Plus, no more jinitiator in 11.5.9!  Finally, the removal of
 SQL*Form/Oracle*Forms/Forms is complete...




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  John,
 
  Thanks for the info.
 
  You may want to skip 11.5.8 and go to 11.5.9.  There are major patches
(the
  family pack variety) to
  apply subsequent to 11.5.8
 
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  Ron,
 
  We are 'in the process' of moving from 11.5.7/8.1.7.4 to
11.5.8/9.2.0.4 -
  planning/testing starts after approval. We went ahead and installed a
test
  db in any case. Make sure that you start out with 9.2.0.4 - the older
  9.2.0.3 is buggy and Oracle seems to have ratified .4 recently.
 
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  Subject: Apps 11.5.8 and 9i
 
 
  Has anyone upgraded Oracle Applications 11.5.8 from database
  version 8.1.7 to 9i?  Was it good, bad,
  indifferent in regards to performance?
 
  I'd like to because of some of the database enhancements, but
  the CIO asked the performance

RE: Re: max parallel query

2003-09-19 Thread Ron Thomas

To counter that...

If our network admin had our NAS traffic on the same backbone as our internet/itranet 
traffic, they
would very quickly be looking for employment elsewhere...

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Matt,

 Question: What else do you have running on your Fiber Channel?  Answer: 
Nothing
 Question: What do you have running on your TCP/IP network?  Answer: 
Everything.

 For this one can see that a SAN's fiber channel is dedicated to handling 
data from one
server to it's storage.  Sure you can attach part of your SAN to the network to act as 
a NAS file
system, but the SAN switch handles that separately from the servers so that one does 
not get in the
way of the other.  Therefore when some lummox decides to download that 1GB MPG file 
from the
internet, his traffic does not get in the way of your database working with it's 
files.  Divide 
Conquer still has it's place.

Dick Goulet
Senior Oracle DBA
Oracle Certified 8i DBA

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The real differences between NAS and SAN is how data is accessed - NAS is
file-based (open this file, read that file, lock this other file) while
SAN, like direct-attached, is block based (read block 45345 from disk 7,
write block 2442 from disk 3).  SAN runs over Fibre Channel, which is a
network protocol that sits under SCSI, while NAS uses NFS (or CIFS, but for
Oracle just NFS) over TCP/IP to talk to the storage.

From a pricing standpoint, its generally true that NAS is cheaper than SAN,
though I can show you a million-dollar NAS box and a 10k SAN.  Ditto with
performance - while SAN is often faster than NAS, your mileage can vary
wildly.  Most of the perceived performance gap between SAN and NAS is due to
the fact that people have lower standards for their networks than they do
their SANs.  I've seen people/organizations who would never ever consider
using an off-brand Fibre Channel card cheerfully put their
performance-sensitive NAS traffic over a $50 Gigabit ethernet card.
Intelligent design and careful tuning (plus sizing your storage properly)
for your NAS will yield comparable performance to a SAN.

Beyond that, management of NAS vs. SAN is totally different, though I can't
get into that in detail here.  Finally, the world just changed again with
the introduction of iSCSI - SCSI over IP.  It's block-based access over
traditional IP networks...very exciting stuff.

Thanks,
Matt

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NetApp is in another class of devices labeled NAS for
 Network Attached Storage. Because its connection with your

RE: PL/SQL Question:Eliminate duplicate rows

2003-09-19 Thread Ron Thomas

except your too_many_rows exception should be dup_val_on_index...

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Johann,

how about the following.  what this does is, using the inner begin/end
block, catches when an insert would fail because of the PK failure and
ignores the error.

This is very quick and dirty - it will work fine if you are not working with
a huge amount of data.

declare

cursor c1 is
  select col1, col2
   from some_table;
begin
 for c1_rec in c1 loop
  begin
insert into new_table(col1, col2)
  values (c1_rec.col1, c1_rec.col2);
exception
  when too_many_rows then
   null;
  end;
 end loop;
end;
/

If you are talking about lots and lots of data, you could easily query the
table you are inserting into, testing for the existence of the value you are
attempting to insert.  If you find it, skip the insert.  Like this:

declare
rec_count number;
cursor c1 is
  select col1, col2
   from some_table;
begin
 for c1_rec in c1 loop
  begin
select count(*)
 into rec_count
 from new_table
 where col1 = c1_rec.col1;  -- this assumes that col1 is the pk!
 if rec_count = 0 then
   insert into new_table(col1, col2)
values (c1_rec.col1, c1_rec.col2);
 end if;
exception
  when too_many_rows then
   null;
  end;
 end loop;
end;
/

Good Luck!

Tom Mercadante
Oracle Certified Professional


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Looking for an a sample cursor routine to load a PK enabled table to
eliminate
any dupes from the load table.

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RE: PL/SQL Question:Eliminate duplicate rows

2003-09-19 Thread Ron Thomas

Hi Tom-

Submitting to a listserve is like living in a small town.  Make 1 little oops and 
everybody knows
about it.

Do I need to look over my shoulder on the way to my car tonight???  ;)

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You know, I never use that exception, so I can't remember it correctly.

You are correct, of course - thanks for embarrasing me in front of thousands
and thousands and thousands  (how many Jared??) of people!  :)

Tom Mercadante
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except your too_many_rows exception should be dup_val_on_index...

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Johann,

how about the following.  what this does is, using the inner begin/end
block, catches when an insert would fail because of the PK failure and
ignores the error.

This is very quick and dirty - it will work fine if you are not working with
a huge amount of data.

declare

cursor c1 is
  select col1, col2
   from some_table;
begin
 for c1_rec in c1 loop
  begin
insert into new_table(col1, col2)
  values (c1_rec.col1, c1_rec.col2);
exception
  when too_many_rows then
   null;
  end;
 end loop;
end;
/

If you are talking about lots and lots of data, you could easily query the
table you are inserting into, testing for the existence of the value you are
attempting to insert.  If you find it, skip the insert.  Like this:

declare
rec_count number;
cursor c1 is
  select col1, col2
   from some_table;
begin
 for c1_rec in c1 loop
  begin
select count(*)
 into rec_count
 from new_table
 where col1 = c1_rec.col1;  -- this assumes that col1 is the pk!
 if rec_count = 0 then
   insert into new_table(col1, col2)
values (c1_rec.col1, c1_rec.col2);
 end if;
exception
  when too_many_rows then
   null;
  end;
 end loop;
end;
/

Good Luck!

Tom Mercadante
Oracle Certified Professional


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RE: Apps 11.5.8 and 9i

2003-09-19 Thread Ron Thomas

John,

Thanks for the info.

You may want to skip 11.5.8 and go to 11.5.9.  There are major patches (the family 
pack variety) to
apply subsequent to 11.5.8

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We are 'in the process' of moving from 11.5.7/8.1.7.4 to 11.5.8/9.2.0.4 -
planning/testing starts after approval. We went ahead and installed a test
db in any case. Make sure that you start out with 9.2.0.4 - the older
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Subject: Apps 11.5.8 and 9i


Has anyone upgraded Oracle Applications 11.5.8 from database
version 8.1.7 to 9i?  Was it good, bad,
indifferent in regards to performance?

I'd like to because of some of the database enhancements, but
the CIO asked the performance
question.

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Apps 11.5.8 and 9i

2003-09-18 Thread Ron Thomas
Has anyone upgraded Oracle Applications 11.5.8 from database version 8.1.7 to 9i?  Was 
it good, bad,
indifferent in regards to performance?

I'd like to because of some of the database enhancements, but the CIO asked the 
performance
question.

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Re: Is Cary's new book shipping now?

2003-09-17 Thread Ron Thomas

OK, call me senile, but I've been following this thread for so long I can't remember 
the titles for
Cary's and Tom's books.  Anyone wanna lend a hand with the ISBN number or title?

Thanks,

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Tom has a NEW, different book out, from Oracle Press. That is the one
Cary is referring to. Which means you'll have to buy a new book.

As for Cary's book, I have it on order at Amazon as well, but according
to the site today, it's still not released. :(


--- Dwayne Cox [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 Why oh why did I not wait?  I tracked down and purchased Tom's
 previous
 Expert One-on-One Oracle a couple months ago.  I even checked to make
 sure
 a new edition was not forthcoming.  *sigh*  Did not check enough I
 guess.

 I'll have to compare the two to see if I want to 'upgrade'.

 I am waiting, impatiently, for Cary's book (preordered on Amazon).  I
 just
 attended the Oracle9i Performance Tuning Class and am quite pumped
 about
 tuning.  Especially since we have recently experienced some
 performance issues.


 Dwayne
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  - Visit www.hotsos.com for schedule details...
 
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  Sent: Tuesday, September 16, 2003 11:40 AM
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  Thanks Cary I have your new book and Tom's new book on order ..
 
 
 
  Raj
 
 


  
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  Raj,
 
 
 
  The book will be in the O'Reilly warehouses tomorrow (9/17),
 presumably
  outbound to stores on the same or next day. I'd expect preorders to
  arrive at customers' homes on or near this weekend.
 
 
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Re: Unix- How to remove the first few lines(N) in a file without

2003-09-16 Thread Ron Thomas

Lets not forget about the vernerable ed...

#
# strip of the header of the input file
#
ed $data_filename EOF
1,5d
w
q
EOF
#


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Afaik, vi can run in non-interactive, batch mode too.
But I'd go with tail +6

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 Mladen ,I want to automate this thing. So don't want
 to go with :1,5d stuff

 --- Mladen Gogala [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
  The best thing to do would be something like:
  vi filename
  :1,5d
  :x!
 
  That would do the trick.
  Also this:
 


*
 
  #!/usr/bin/perl -w
  use strict
  my $ind=1;
open FILE1,/file1/path||die  Cannot open
  file1:$!\n;
open FILE2,/file2/path||die Cannot open
  file2:$!\n;
 
  # Skip 5 lines
 
for($ind=1;$ind=5;$ind++) { FILE1; }
 
  # copy files
while (FILE1) { print FILE2 $_; }
print I'm all done\n;
 



 
  On 2003.09.14 12:14, Tim Gorman wrote:
   sed '6,$p' filename  new-filename
  
   on 9/14/03 7:49 AM, Oracle DBA at
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Hi List,
   
I want to remove the first 5 lines of the text
  from
unix text file. Is there a command to do it
  without
opening a file manually? (I don't want to use
  (DD
command)
   
For example,
==
1 to be removed
2 to be removed
3 to be removed
4 to be removed
5 to be removed
a
s

==
   
Any help would be really appreciated.
TIA
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Re: Database Cloning

2003-09-15 Thread Ron Thomas

Your belief was wrong.

Actually, the belief was correct for some versions of oracle and some platforms.  Case 
in point was
Oracle 7 on an HP server.  The source must be down in order to bring up the clone and 
recreate the
control file.

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Smith, Ron L. wrote:

 Whenever we clone a database on the same server we have always had the
 understanding that the original database must be down until the new
 database is renamed by running the control file script.

 I am going through the Oracle Recovery 101 book in an effort to
 understand RMAN and one chapters in the book is cloning a database on
 the same server.  I just went through the steps to create a clone of a
 hot database.  I created the new database on the same server with a new
 name while the original database was up and running.  I had no problems.
 Was our belief that the original database had to be down, incorrect, or
 was this just a restriction of older version like 7.3.4?

 Thanks!
 Ron Smith

Ron,

   When you clone a database, you start with :
1) changing db_name in the init.ora file and most paths
2) defining a new ORACLE_SID and renaming init.ora accordingly
3) starting the instance without mounting it - your init.ora file is
opened and read.

 Where do you want anything to interact (badly) with an existing
database?
You have allocated some shared memory, have started a few processes and
read a file. Big deal.

Your belief was wrong.

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RE: How to send an email from unix command line?

2003-09-09 Thread Ron Thomas

Or check out mpack

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If you wanted to send as an attachment use 'elm'


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Hi List

I tried the following stuff but it says Service
Unavailable.

$mail -s Test Subject [EMAIL PROTECTED]
body line1
body line2
Ctrl-D

What should i do to make email stuff work?

Thanks in advance
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RE: 9i-OCP Question

2003-08-14 Thread Ron Thomas

I've seen some of that research many moons ago.  One of the conclusions was to always 
be in the same
state of mind when you take the test as you were in when you studied.  Now, where the 
 did I put
that bottle!

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There is scientific research that shows that moderate consumption of alcohol
while learning and while testing improves scores.  NOW you have a good
excuse!

 -Original Message-

 In high school, I took the SAT exams and got a great score,
 enough to be
 satisfied with.  My guidance counselor insisted I gild the
 lily and take the
 exams again.  I showed up that morning with no sleep, a
 throbbing hangover,
 and eyes looking like fried eggs pasted to my head...

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  Chemistry -- bourbon in water with ice in your favorite
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  cup.  Everyone at the test site is sure you have a soft drink.
 
  -Original Message-
 
  Experience with various flavors of storage technology plus a
  decade of DBA
  experience can't possibly prepare me for what I haven't read
  (i.e. Oracle's
  recommendations).  In a multiple-choice test format, unlike
  real life, I
  can't possibly argue with what Oracle has recommended...
 
  No wonder I failed my first try at the 9iOCP upgrade exam.
  Yes, I'll try
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Re: Off Topic Question - Update.inf file

2003-08-14 Thread Ron Thomas

Yup.  Been chortling with glee.  Everytime this happens, I get a few more linux 
converts.


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fdisk, load linux.  computers running m$ are  saps, linux rulz, no virus
worries here, hey wait why is root password toor, j/k.

Linux Bigot

KENNETH JANUSZ wrote:

 Yesterday I got hit with the Blaster Bug.  To make a long story short
 I cannot apply the MS fix to my XP Prof. since I don't have the
 Update.inf file.  Would like some feedback on where I can locate it
 and what directory it belongs in.  I'm on XP Prof. SP1.  I tried apply
 SP1a and it errored out saying it needed this file also.

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Re: How to tell Oracle the directories of script files

2003-08-14 Thread Ron Thomas

COOL!  I've learned something new today.  Can I go home

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Btw, did you know that you can use:

@http://www.servername.com/script.sql and
@ftp://ftp.servername.com/dir/script.sql in 9i sqlplus :)

It can be nice in environment where you continously have to work with random
different servers and cant copy your script set over every time..

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 RDB,
  It is always best to include the path for the script that you want to
 execute. That way you make sure that you execute your script and not
 someone else's. There can be many scripts  of the same name in the
 directory path.
 Ron
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 Yes there is a way.  In UNIX environments (I think this works in
 NT/2000 as
 well) you can set the environment variable SQLPATH to a list of
 directories
 that contain SQL files.  SQLPlus will search this path if the file is
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 Hello,
 Suppose I have some SQL scripts in my /home/user directories,
 /usr/local/bin
 directories, etc.
 If I start 'sqlplus' from console in /home/user directories, I can
 load/execute the script by doing:
 SQL @scriptname

 But what if I don't start sqlplus from that directories? How do I tell
 Oracle
 to find the scripts in /home/user, then if it's not there in
 /usr/local/bin,
 for example? So that I can be anywhere in the filesystem when starting
 sqlplus and can execute my SQL script.

 Just like the $PATH environment variables in *nix system that tell the
 shell
 where to find executables, is there a similar thing for Oracle?

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Re: OT: [stupid] vi question

2003-08-14 Thread Ron Thomas

You have opened a file saved in dos mode.

:%s/^M//g

works wonders.

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Re: 9i then 8i Installs

2003-08-01 Thread Ron Thomas

This is why you setup an orainventory file specific to each oracle home.
YMMV.

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When you do the install, insure that you use the 9i installer to install
the 8i software. If you don't , the 8i installer will write to the
inventory file and that would be bad.  The 8i installer would not be able
to read the file and would not know that 9i is already installed.  Believe
me, you do not want this to happen.  So, as long as you use the resident
installer, 9i, then you should not have a problem installing the 8i
software.

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I got an odd request today to install 8.1.7 on an existing server which is
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Has anyone successfully been able to install Oracle 8.1.7 on the same
Windows Server that already has 9.2 running?
I know that if you install 8.1.7 then 9.2 both in different homes it will
work, but I have never seen it work where 9.2 was installed first.
I have not been able to locate a test box yet and was wondering if it is
possible and if so if there are any pitfalls I should watchout for, other
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Re: Any German here ? Character set

2003-07-30 Thread Ron Thomas

Just cover all bases and use UTF8

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could you please tell me wich Character Set you are using in your database ?
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Re: Anyone using onames on win2k server + 8.1.7 ?

2003-07-25 Thread Ron Thomas

We don't do windows here...  but the 9.2 names server works just fine with all our 
8.1.7.4 databases
under unix.  9.2 names also does seam to be more stable than the 8.1.7 version.

Just food for thought...

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All

 Ive gone round and round with  a new install of 8.17 and getting
names to work.
Initially when a name server was greated and upi opend the NET8 config,
it would crash
Searching metalink provided the needed patches
1,2,3,4
Aplied all in sequence without errors
Import large tnsfile into names, save config and exit
All the instances can be querried through the name server both locally
(on the machine) and remotely
However
When the service restarts, or machine reboots all configuration is lost

Searched metalnk and diddnt comeup with too much. I opned a TAR and was
suggested to move to 9.x
Well, Ive spent so much time on this and I need to maintain the 8.1.x
version for this particullar server
So, my question is anyone using onames on win2k server 8.1.7

My banner is as follows

SQL*Plus: Release 8.1.7.0.0 - Production on Fri Jul 25 13:37:17 2003
(c) Copyright 2000 Oracle Corporation.  All rights reserved.
Connected to:
Oracle8i Enterprise Edition Release 8.1.7.4.1 - Production
With the Partitioning option
JServer Release 8.1.7.4.1 - Production

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Re: [Q] how to make Develper 6i talk to ORACLE 8i client??

2003-07-25 Thread Ron Thomas

The 8.0.6 client works just fine with 8.1.7 databases.  Why do you want to make 
developer 6i use
8.1.7?

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RE: backwards export

2003-07-24 Thread Ron Thomas

 and 7.3.4 clients won't talk to a
 9.2 database,

 False

This is sort-a false.  If the 9.2 database is in a new characterset such as UTF8, the 
old sqlnet
clients will have difficulties if the client machine is also not in UTF8.

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 I'm not sure of the export compatibility, but you should know that 9i
 clients won't talk to a 7.3.4 database,


  True


 and 7.3.4 clients won't talk to a
 9.2 database,

 False


  A Oracle7 client can, will, and does talk to a 9.2.0 database
with no problem.


 which could be a problem.  At least, they're not certified
 to talk to each other, which isn't quite the same thing.


  See note 172179.1 on Metalink.  To quote:


In short, any version of SQL*Net's version 2 Client (2.3.x) and
up to Net 9.0.x, will be able to connect to any version of
Oracle Database version 7.3.x and up to 9.2.x, with certain
compatibility issues that are explained below





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I'm not sure of the export compatibility, but you should know that 9i
clients won't talk to a 7.3.4 database, and 7.3.4 clients won't talk to a
9.2 database, which could be a problem.  At least, they're not certified
to talk to each other, which isn't quite the same thing.


Cheers
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Hi,

We are investigating possibilities for migration of an oracle 7.3.4 to
oracle 9i. We want to separate our
production DB from the app-logic such that we can migrate from oracle
7.3.4 on hp-ux 10.20 to oracle 9i
on hp-ux 11. Problem is our development and test-environment because we
cannot separate the logic at the
same time here also from the db (costs). Does anyone have any experience
with exporting from oracle 9i
to oracle 7.3.4 ?

I found the underlying note on metalink about the same problem but with
oracle 8. I have limited experience on oracle8
and none on oracle 9. So I hope you can give some tips.
..
You need to run the 7.3 version of export against your 8.0 database via
sqlnet/net8. Beforehand, you need to run rdbms/admin/catexp7.sql against
your 8.0 database. This creates the 7.3 export views required. Note that
if you have used any 8.0 specific features (e.g. objects) these will not
be exported for obvious reasons.


Tia,

Jeroen





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Re: dba age

2003-07-23 Thread Ron Thomas

42.  And missing a few experience fingers...

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what is average age of an experienced oracle dba ?

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RE: Recent reports on outages caused by DB2 and 9iRAC issues

2003-07-18 Thread Ron Thomas

I typically will not work for a boss who isn't like that.  If I screw up, I'm the 
first to admit it
(generally by a blood curdling scream).  You can rake my sorry a. over the coals once 
the problem
has been resolved.

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I prefer my bosses attitude on the subject of mistakes:

 Admit that you did it  then go fix it.  We'll crucify you later, if we 
have the time.

For some reason, known only to the Devil himself, they never find the time.

Dick Goulet
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This reminds of watching the Indy 500 a couple of years ago.

One of the drivers managed to spin in turn 4 of the first lap of the race,
and subsequently was unable to finish the race.

Before continuing, you need to know that when in a corner, one thing
you should *never* do is take your foot off of the gas pedal.

The resulting weight transfer will greatly reduce the amount of weight
on the rear tires, and could easily cause you to spin.

Back to the story:  The driver was interviewed shortly afterward in the
pits, and put the blame squarely on the car. It was something with the
car.

Technology in the form of an onboard camera told another story.  He
let off the gas twice in turn 4.  The first time the rear of the car
squirmed
a bit and he recovered.  The second time it sounded like he completely
released the accelerator, and the spin came shortly afterwards.

He could have been a smart guy too, if he had remembered the camera.

Too bad there wasn't a camera on the smart guys at Orbitz, maybe it
would tell a different story.  ;)

None of us are immune to making mistakes, and about the time you
start feeling invincible, watch out.

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Interesting quote in eWeek.  We may all be smart guys, but how often do
we like to admit to causing a problem.

Dick Goulet
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Reports on Bugs in IBM's DB2 which led to a critical operational
situation
http://theregister.co.uk/content/archive/30095.html
and
http://www.danskebank.com/link/ITreport20030403uk/$file/ITreport20030403uk.pdf


Report on Orbitz blaming an outage on Oracle's 9iRAC [and Orbitz going out
of 9iRAC]
http://www.eweek.com/article2/0,3959,1196879,00.asp
and
http://www.computerworld.com/databasetopics/data/software/story/0,10801,83186,00.html



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RE: Physical Design Question

2003-07-17 Thread Ron Thomas

my 2cents...

Every instance get it's own oracle home, user id and group id.  Total isolation and 
separation.  It
makes our auditors happy too!

Then again, I may be an extremist...

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Well, since nobody else has jumped on this...

-Original Message-
 Here's my situation:
 1.  Should I use a separate Oracle Home for each DB?

Not unless you have some peculiar situation there.  Use separate ORACLE_HOME
for each version of Oracle but not each database.

 Pros:   --Allows upgrade/patching of 1 DB at a
 time without affecting others (some are home-grown,
 some are 3rd party).

The separate ORACLE_HOME for each version takes care of this.  You just
change the ORACLE_HOME in the oratab when you upgrade the database.  If you
use environment setting scripts, have them grab the correct ORACLE_HOME from
the oratab.

something like:

export ORACLE_HOME=`/usr/bin/nawk -F: '$1 == SID {print $2}'
SID=$ORACLE_SID $ORATAB`

where ORATAB is the path to your oratab file.


Sorry, I got no opinions on your storage arrangement.
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Re: MicroSlop DTC

2003-07-14 Thread Ron Thomas

I've seen this happen with older versions of the sqlnet client (Different application, 
same
symptom).  What version of the client are you using?

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To All, especially any WEB developers out there.

 We've a WEB based application that uses MS DTC.  OK, so we turned on XA 
in the
database, but the web servers do not want to play with our normal ONmase setup.  
Instead they only
want to work with a TNSNAMES.ORA file in the appriopriate place.  I've been all over 
MicroSlop
Technet and Metalink as well as  several other IIS sites with no results.  Therefore 
anyone know why
this is??

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RE: MicroSlop DTC

2003-07-14 Thread Ron Thomas

Hum, does tnsping resolve the service correctly?

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9.2.0.1.0  On Win 2K.

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I've seen this happen with older versions of the sqlnet client (Different application, 
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To All, especially any WEB developers out there.

 We've a WEB based application that uses MS DTC.  OK, so we turned on XA 
in the
database, but the web servers do not want to play with our normal ONmase setup.  
Instead they only
want to work with a TNSNAMES.ORA file in the appriopriate place.  I've been all over 
MicroSlop
Technet and Metalink as well as  several other IIS sites with no results.  Therefore 
anyone know why
this is??

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RE: COMMIT's within cursor for loops

2003-06-26 Thread Ron Thomas

Thou Shalt Not Fetch Across Commits was ingrained in me many, many moons ago.  It is 
poor practice
and can cause multitudes of problems.

Just my 2 cents.  YMMV.

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I prefer to create an inner block using BEGIN and END inside the loop. This
isolates the DML statements. The COMMIT is issued inside the BEGIN and END
block.

RWB

That allows you to avoid invalidating the cursor established for update?
I dont' see how the two are related.  You just created an exception block
within the cursor loop.  Or am i misunderstanding what you are saying here?

Regarding the original question commiting within a cursor for loop.  It is
allowable if you do not create the cursor for update.  If you created the
cursor using for update, you will not only NOT retain a lock on the record
set, you will get an error indicating an invalid cursor.

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I prefer to create an inner block using BEGIN and END inside the loop. This
isolates the DML statements. The COMMIT is issued inside the BEGIN and END
block.

RWB




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Hi All,

Can somebody please clear up some issues about issuing commits during
CURSOR
FOR LOOPS

I have done some research within Metalink and the ORACLE-L FAQ but am still
a tad bit confused.

Are the following statements regarding cursors TRUE

1. If you issue a commit within a for cursor loop you release all locks
regardless of whether you're cursor statement has a FOR UPDATE statement in
it or there is a WHERE CURRENT statement within the loop.

2. If you are using OPEN CURSOR...FETCH INTO statements to get the data the
same rule applies.

Thanks,

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Re: Want to BAARF - Recommendations for 10 36G Drive config

2003-06-14 Thread Ron Thomas

Mogens-

Can you register me with id 42?  It is my age (in a few weeks) and of course the 
meaning of life,
the universe, and everything.

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David - I just registered you as Party member # 30. You obviously have
the right attitudes :-).

Mogens

Dave Phillips wrote:

A client runs our app with the following layout. Since their intial 6
drive config they have procured more drives for a total of 10 36Gig
Drives. They have also upgraded memory from 1 to 4 gig. I have the
opportunity to recommend changes to the current structure to improve
performance.
So, any recommendations from the BAARF committee are welcome.

Current System

Ora 8.1.7
Win 2k
Size 30Gig
Logical Array 1 - Raid 1 - OS and Oracle
Logical Array 2 - Raid 1 - App and Index TS
Logical Array 3 - Raid 5 - The rest (Data,Rbs,redo,etc)




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RE: Upgradation Question on APPS 11i

2003-06-12 Thread Ron Thomas

There are major tech stack and schema differences between 11.5.4 and 11.5.8.  All I 
can say is
follow the maintainence pack release notes and pull all the info you can from 
metalink.  Depending
on the size of your installation, plan on at least a two day effort, more if you have 
multiple
languages installed, a UTF8 character set database, on a Windows platoform, etc.  
Never do this on a
production system without performing this migration on a test instance (on a separate 
server)
several (many) times.

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Oh...God...any other short 'n' sweet's r there.

Senthil

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It is a Big Procedure ;)

Sorry ...

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Dear Group,

One of our customer is using apps 11.5.4 on WIN2K.

For a demo, they wanted to upgrade to 11.5.5, then 11.5.8.

How do I do that in a short way. In the metalink doc's they are giving a
big procedure.

Any help???

TIA
Senthil



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Oracle 13? Probably nicknamed something like Jason is back version? It
would be appropriate to have such a presentation on Friday the 13th. On
2003.05.30 23:09 Babette Turner-Underwood wrote:
 Don't worry about the lid being off of 10i.
 We will be doing an overview presentation of Oracle 13
 this fall at the local user group. :-)

 - Babette

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 who promoted you to traffic cop?

 this is the only way I'm able to hear about the new green gui button.

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 OK everyone.  Traffic cop time.  Everyone that is a beta partner for
 10i MUST KEEP THEIR MOUTH SHUT.  Don't get anyone in trouble, please.

 We as partners pushed Oracle for these beta programs.  Conversations
 like this only hurt the process.

 Thank You

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 Got my first look at the 10i beta last night. I can't tell you much
 about
it
 except to say

Re: Oracle 9IAS

2003-06-01 Thread Ron Thomas

Are you trying to install on a P4 system?  If so, check metalink for installer crashes 
on P4
systems.  It's a symjit.dll issue.

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I'm trying to install 9IAS 1.0.2.2 in a W2000 SP3 but nothing comes up
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Checked in metalink and nothing related to it.

TIA

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Re: 10i

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TEASE!

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Got my first look at the 10i beta last night. I can't tell you much about it
except to say that looking at some of the new stuff


h

;-)


While I'm certain many of the new features will not work perfectly for
several releases afterwards, they look very cool!

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Re: would imp speed affect by setting indexes to NOLOGGING?

2003-05-27 Thread Ron Thomas

Have you considered dropping the indexes before import, then rebuilding parallel 
nologging?

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Hi,

Would the imp speed increase by setting all indexes to NOLOGGING?

I have a schema with 249 tables and 442 indexes and I have a weekly schema
refresh program running as this:

exp schema from Server A (Oracle 8173 on Sun Solaris box)
ftp dump file from Server A to Server B, the dump file size is 1.9GB after
compression
imp schema on Server B (also Oracle 8173 on Sun Solaris box), the imp
usually take about 7 hours.

With everything elase the same, last week I changed all indexes in the
schema on Server A to NOLOGGING (they were all set to logging before),
hoping to increase the speed of imp on Server B. Because I thought the
create index ... nologging would reduce redo log writing, therefore
increase the imp speed quite a bit (there are some big indexes there!). But
this morning I found the imp still took about the same time as before,
although I was told that the system I/O seems to be lower.

Does anyone have similar experience? TIA.

Guang

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RE: oracle full table scan

2003-04-03 Thread Ron Thomas

Did you look at them...

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 If you can change it to an IOT, it may be beneficial.

 There's no blanket clause to be used that says 'Always do this'.

 I higly encourage folks on this list to setup and use the run_stats
 method of comparing different access methods.  This is something
 Tom Kyte put together.  It is very simple to use.

 URL:  http://osi.oracle.com/~tkyte/runstats.html

 I've attached my versions of the scripts for your convenience.

 You can use these to easily compare unindexed vs indexed
 reads on small tables, indexed vs IOT, etc.

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 Thanks Jared,
 What if my developer is selecting all or most of the records from the

 table and not all the columns in the select list are in the index
 that
 should have been used?
 I understand your point, in fact to use Jonathan's words .. should a

 small lookup table BE an index (IOT)? ... I am testing this approach
 here

 and have found some performance benefit out of it.
 Cheers
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 An index read and lookup by rowid is much more scalable than
 doing an  FTS, even if the table is only 2 blocks.
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RE: Large Export Problem ......

2003-03-26 Thread Ron Thomas

I go even one step further here.  Each object is required to have it's own creation 
script.  A
package will have two scripts, one for the header and one for the body.  Also the 
script name has
the package revision included in it as well.  For example:

hyp_packages.115.00.sql
hyp_packageb.115.00.sql
hyp_packageb.115.01.sql
etc...

This makes reverting code and tracking changes much easier.

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Babu,
 It may not be THE correct answer but I keep all of the packages
created by the development community on a disk as the txt or sql
statemants used to create them. It helps to have them handy when they
need to be modified because of a table structure change, etc. I just
give them back to the deveopers to fix and then I recompile on the
production server. Also it help to keep them up to date as we are
currently migration to a newer version of Oracle while changing the
structure of some tables.
With the current sql used to create the package that was distroyed you
can recreate it easily.
Ron

 [EMAIL PROTECTED] 03/25/03 07:33PM 
Thanks for the caution. Does any one know if I export with
owner=schema
Name rows=N, then drop a package and import from the export file with
IGNORE=N (which is default), will it restore the dropped package and
error
out on all other objects as they are already exist?

Is this the right way of restoring the dropped package or will it have
any
problems? There are plenty of the tables in the database and error list
will
be too long in this case. Any side effects? or Is there any other way
to
import a dropped pakage?

A little bit uncomfortable seeing big error list for restoring one
package.
Any ideas or will I have to live with this in case the need arises?
Iam
afraid of any side effects.

--Babu

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The problem with direct=y is that imports done from these dumps
are then very version dependent.

Jared






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Babu

Why not try 'direct=y' option. This has limitations
regarding the platform. Not 100% sure of it.
Check  with Documentation.   It does export very fast.

HTH

GovindanK

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 I have a large unarchived decission support database of
 size 270gig. We do
 take coldbackup of database files every sunday. We also
 take export backup
 to suplement the coldbackup. Export is taking too much
 time which we can't
 afford now. I need to reduce the export time to fit the
 weekend schedule. In
 the last few weeks it is failing as the database is down
 for coldbackups
 while the export is running.

 The database structure is as follows:

 Partitioned tables size

RE: Large Export Problem ......

2003-03-26 Thread Ron Thomas

FWIR, CVS doesn't handle binaries tho.  We do the same thing for rdf's (report files) 
and fmb's
(forms files) too.

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I like RCS for this.  Any version you need can be retrieved.

If a large number of packages are used for an app, you could
take it a step further and use CVS.  This would allow app level
releases as well.

Jared






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I go even one step further here.  Each object is required to have it's own
creation script.  A
package will have two scripts, one for the header and one for the body.
Also the script name has
the package revision included in it as well.  For example:

hyp_packages.115.00.sql
hyp_packageb.115.00.sql
hyp_packageb.115.01.sql
etc...

This makes reverting code and tracking changes much easier.

Ron Thomas
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Babu,
 It may not be THE correct answer but I keep all of the packages
created by the development community on a disk as the txt or sql
statemants used to create them. It helps to have them handy when they
need to be modified because of a table structure change, etc. I just
give them back to the deveopers to fix and then I recompile on the
production server. Also it help to keep them up to date as we are
currently migration to a newer version of Oracle while changing the
structure of some tables.
With the current sql used to create the package that was distroyed you
can recreate it easily.
Ron

 [EMAIL PROTECTED] 03/25/03 07:33PM 
Thanks for the caution. Does any one know if I export with
owner=schema
Name rows=N, then drop a package and import from the export file with
IGNORE=N (which is default), will it restore the dropped package and
error
out on all other objects as they are already exist?

Is this the right way of restoring the dropped package or will it have
any
problems? There are plenty of the tables in the database and error list
will
be too long in this case. Any side effects? or Is there any other way
to
import a dropped pakage?

A little bit uncomfortable seeing big error list for restoring one
package.
Any ideas or will I have to live with this in case the need arises?
Iam
afraid of any side effects.

--Babu

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Re: Autoallocate (was Re: LMT monitoring)

2003-03-17 Thread Ron Thomas

Which is followed by:

Absolute power corrupts absolutely.

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No.. that should be:
With great power comes great responsibility.

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Re: can't create database

2003-03-12 Thread Ron Thomas

Another reason to have a unique oracle ID/home for each instance.  It makes this much 
easier...

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I run into this every time I stop 9.2 on Linux.

No need to reboot.  Just use ipcrm to remove the
offending SHM segments.

If you don't know which ones, use ORADEBUG to
find the segments you shouldn't remove from other
running databases.

Or just shutdown all instances and remove any
SHM owned by Oracle.

Probably a bug, but I haven't checked into it yet.

Jared






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I've had this problem on linux.  Best and fastest solution:  reboot the
server.  There is a memory issue preventing you from starting oracle.  I
just had it happen about 2 minutes ago on an upgrade to 9i.  Reboot, and
now I can start the db.

-Candi


On Wed, 2003-03-12 at 12:07, Schwerdtfeger, Christoph wrote:
 Am Mit, 2003-03-12 um 17.20 schrieb Ray Stell:
  On Wed, Mar 12, 2003 at 07:19:53AM -0800, Schwerdtfeger,  Christoph
wrote:
   Am Mit, 2003-03-12 um 10.28 schrieb Christoph Schwerdtfeger:
Am Die, 2003-03-11 um 19.47 schrieb Alan Davey:
 I had the same error message on NT with Oracle 9.2 recently.

 The first problem was that the init_sid.ora file was created a
directory different from where the db create scripts were looking for it.
The second problem was that one of the init parameters was for Enterprise
Edition and I was installing Standard Edition.

 Both problems resulted in the message of 'not connected to
oracle'.

 Come to think of it, I don't think I've ever had a version of
the DB Creation wizard work without getting some error.
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RE: LMT monitoring

2003-03-10 Thread Ron Thomas

Was this a fresh tablespace or were there swiss cheese holes available to fill?

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As mydata load continues, the saga continues. The simplistic algorithm does
not hold

Can anyone explain these results?

PARTITION_NAME  EXTENT_ID BYTES/1024 BYTES/1024/1024
-- -- -- ---
FINS_FM_DATA_CLOSED_200207 84   6144   6
FINS_FM_DATA_CLOSED_200207 85   5120   5
FINS_FM_DATA_CLOSED_200207 86   6144   6
FINS_FM_DATA_CLOSED_200207 87   5120   5
FINS_FM_DATA_CLOSED_200207 88   5120   5
FINS_FM_DATA_CLOSED_200207 89   4096   4
FINS_FM_DATA_CLOSED_200207 90   5120   5
FINS_FM_DATA_CLOSED_200207 91   4096   4
FINS_FM_DATA_CLOSED_200207 92   4096   4
FINS_FM_DATA_CLOSED_200207 93   4096   4
FINS_FM_DATA_CLOSED_200207 94   4096   4
FINS_FM_DATA_CLOSED_200207 95   3072   3
FINS_FM_DATA_CLOSED_200207 96   4096   4
FINS_FM_DATA_CLOSED_200207 97   3072   3
FINS_FM_DATA_CLOSED_200207 98   3072   3
FINS_FM_DATA_CLOSED_200207 99   3072   3
FINS_FM_DATA_CLOSED_200207100   3072   3
FINS_FM_DATA_CLOSED_200207101   3072   3
FINS_FM_DATA_CLOSED_200207102   3072   3
FINS_FM_DATA_CLOSED_200207103   3072   3
FINS_FM_DATA_CLOSED_200207104   3072   3
FINS_FM_DATA_CLOSED_200207105   3072   3
FINS_FM_DATA_CLOSED_200207106   3072   3
FINS_FM_DATA_CLOSED_200207107   3072   3
FINS_FM_DATA_CLOSED_200207108   3072   3
FINS_FM_DATA_CLOSED_200207109   3072   3
FINS_FM_DATA_CLOSED_200207110   3072   3
FINS_FM_DATA_CLOSED_200207111   2048   2
FINS_FM_DATA_CLOSED_200207112   2048   2
FINS_FM_DATA_CLOSED_200207113   2048   2
FINS_FM_DATA_CLOSED_200207114   2048   2
FINS_FM_DATA_CLOSED_200207115   2048   2
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According to a good email from Dan Fink (which I've since checked to 83
extents), the size of the extents is based soley on extent counts
 #extents  next extent size
 1-1564k
 16-79 1m
 80

Re: shared tnsnames.ora

2003-03-03 Thread Ron Thomas

Nope.  namectl, names, et al binaries are still there and functional at 9.2

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My understanding was that ONAMES was removed from 9i and that they provided
some sort of wrapper that goes around OID to make it look like a names
server until you can covert all your clients. Can anyone confirm? I am not
running 9i on any of my servers yet.
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 hello to everybody

 we tried oracle OID. it works fine. check it out, it's worthwhile.

 btw.:afaik oracle names is deprecated and will be withdrawn (... ok
somewhen).

 pls fogive if i'm wrong about that, but i read it somewhere in the docu
that comens with 9i.


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 I am looking for info on how you support a large number of PCs (200+) and
keep each ones tnsnames.ora file in sync.  It seems that most people do not
touch them.  Some try to modify them and when new databases are created, the
tnsnames.ora files must be changes as well.  It seems to be that a shared
tnsnames.ora file on a network drive may work.   I remember a thread awhile
back about the order of resolution (home directory, then OH/network/admin
.).   Again, I am asking about people using the Oracle client to connect
to 15+ databases (v7.3.4 - 9.0.x) on 10+ different servers.   I have just
started to think about this and posted here before I started my MetaLink
search.


  TIA for any info.

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Re: Import Problem

2003-03-03 Thread Ron Thomas

If all you need is tty (character based), then screen should work.  If you need a full 
GUI
environment, then check out vnc.  I use this alot for those 5 hour Oracle Application 
Installs.

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Scott,

Try using screen.  It is a piece of software using virtual tty 's.

I began using it in 1994 to avoid just such problems.

It gives you some unique capabilities.  Start a process from
one client,  goto another client, detach and re-attach there.

eg.  start a job at home in a terminal window, goto work, and
attach the screen there.

And since it is running on the server itself, losing the network
connection, your PC crashing, etc, does not interrupt your job.

It is installed by default on some versions of Linux.

http://www.gnu.org/directory/GNU/screen.html

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I ran into a problem yesterday afternoon.  I had exported a
production database, via a full database export, and ftp'd it to another
machine to import it there and make that the new production machine.  It
was a long import (about 8 hours) and about 2/3 through it, my network
connection was dropped.  I was running it in a ssh shell.  When the
connection disappeared, the import died.  Since I had to get the job
done by morning, I chose to drop the database, rebuild it, then
re-import.  That worked.
What I am wondering is:  Is there a way to resume an import, once it
has been interrupted?  I have been looking in metalink and on the net
and haven't found anything that says how to do it.  I tried technet, but
it was way too slow.  Any thoughts would be greatly appreciated.

Thank you,

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Re: shared tnsnames.ora

2003-02-27 Thread Ron Thomas

Use Oracle Names.  Easy to setup/maintain.  never touch a client config again.

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I am looking for info on how you support a large number of PCs (200+) and keep each 
ones
tnsnames.ora file in sync.  It seems that most people do not touch them.  Some try to 
modify them
and when new databases are created, the tnsnames.ora files must be changes as well.  
It seems to be
that a shared tnsnames.ora file on a network drive may work.   I remember a thread 
awhile back about
the order of resolution (home directory, then OH/network/admin .).   Again, I am 
asking about
people using the Oracle client to connect to 15+ databases (v7.3.4 - 9.0.x) on 10+ 
different
servers.   I have just started to think about this and posted here before I started my 
MetaLink
search.


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JF


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RE: Upgrading from 8.1.5 to 8.1.6

2003-02-24 Thread Ron Thomas

OK, I'll make one comment:

If this is unix, bounce all oracle services after you rename the directory.  Unix has 
a habit of
tracking the file/directory moves if the inode does not change.  In other words, if a 
file is open
when you move it, the process will merrily keep accessing the moved file until the 
file handle is
closed.

Been bit by this once or twice.  Moved a couple of directories around and a month 
later bounced the
services.  Went Oh S... when things didn't come back up.

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What we do is rename the 8.1.5 directory to indicate it is the old directory
(i.e, 8.1.5_old).  If nothing breaks after a week or two, then the directory
and its contents are removed.

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After upgrading oracle database from V8.1.5 to V8.1.6, a new directory is
created to store new version's files and the old directory of old version
8.1.5 is still there.  Is is safe to remove the old directory to save disk
spaces on the disk?  Is there any files being linked to the old version
after upgrading?

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RE: Oracle Names Server 8.1.7 on HP 11

2003-02-20 Thread Ron Thomas

I'd also add that we had nothing but problems with names on HP prior to version 
8.1.7.4.  Versions
8.1.7.4 and 9.2.0.2 have worked flawlessly.

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Zabair,

In addition to the excellent replies you have recieved, be aware that the
Name Server will keep an open connection to the Repository, but will check
the local cache (in the names directory) to resolve any queries. (Performing
a DB query for every name resolution can be expensive!) I have had
situations where both our nameservers (no ddo, both on Solaris, 8.1.7) lost
connection to the repository (due to DB going down) and the NS continued to
work. if you restart them and they cannot find the repository, they will use
the caches. Of course, you should build monitoring scripts that check both
the repository as well as response from the NS for highly available servers.

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You may also want to add these 2 parameters to your sqlnet.ora.  Speeds up
the switch to another nameserver.

NAMES.INITIAL_RETRY_TIMEOUT = 5  # Wait num seconds before going to next
nameserver, default=15
NAMES.REQUEST_RETRIES = 2  # Number of retries for nameserver, default=5

Gene

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We've currently got Names Server running on 4 host boxes. If one Names
server is down, the client is configured to automatically attempt to connect
to the next one in the list. We had a problem recently were, if we issued a
tnsping from any of the clients we got the following message.

TNS-03505 - Failed to resolve name

This implies that our client PC is unable to resolve the name and hence was
not able to connect to the database. Usually this implies that something is
wrong with all our Oracle Names servers.

Inorder to resolve this problem, I had to kill the Names Server on each of
the 4 boxes and restart it.

The Names servers had somehow lost connection to the Oracle Names repository
database, although the servers appear to be attached to the database.

I reckon we can reduce the chances of this problem occuring again, by adding
a second Oracle Names database repository in our database cluster. This
means, that if the NAMES servers lose connection to one repository, they can
fall back on the second database without any loss of service.

What have other people done with their Names Server and respository and do
they see any draw backs with the above.

Sorry for the long email.

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Re: slow update and db trigger

2003-02-19 Thread Ron Thomas

It could also be a dynamic recompile issue.  Make sure the triggers and proc. are 
valid before each
test.

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It sounds like the triggers / procedures may have different logic depending
on the row being updated.  Or possibly the same logic results in a large
number of rows being queried / modified by one of the procedures.

Have you looked at the trigger and procedures to understand what they are
doing?  There may be opportunities to tune them.  Perhaps you could trace
the session to see what is happening, but it might be easier to look at the
code.

Regards,
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I have an update statement executed by a procedure.This update statements
fires a trigger which has a set of update statements
and also executes 2 procedures.

If i execute the parent update statement which will affect a single row
from a table which has significantly less number of rows.This statement
sometimes is executed very fast and sometimes it takes upto 50 seconds.Does
this slowness got to do anything with the triggers that
get fired automatically .For me this update is a single piece of
transaction.Why do i see the delay in this update statements.

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Re: Programming languages that make DBA's lives easier

2003-02-18 Thread Ron Thomas

Let the Holy Wars begin...

My choice:

korn shell
perl
pl/sql

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RE: Programming languages that make DBA's lives easier

2003-02-18 Thread Ron Thomas

No offense taken.  Depending on the shop, java may be more critical than perl.

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No offense but I have noticed in the various Unix/Oracle shops I have worked that more 
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Re: multiple oracle homes

2003-02-07 Thread Ron Thomas

That is why each oracle home has its own oraInventory directory.

I have 10 different instances across 2 machines.  Each instance has its own user id 
and group.

There have been no problems at all with this setup for 8.1.7.4 and 9.2.0

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maybe multi-user oracle homes would be a problem for stuff that's in oracle base such 
as the
inventory.

during an install/upgrade this common data needs to be updated.

i suppose i would work ok if u were careful with permissions, but it would be just one 
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On Fri, Feb 07, 2003 at 07:54:24AM -0800, DENNIS WILLIAMS wrote:
 Ray - My 2 cents worth. Don't ever use another username besides Oracle. Had
 a bad experience :-)


Would you mind expanding on that, other people say the multiple userid idea
works for them.  They may be surprised one day, I can imagine.  I can imagine
blowing one's foot off the other way, also.

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Re: OT: unix script quetion: to replace $ with \$

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Problem here is that sed treats $ as a special characer meaning end of line as well as 
the korn
shell meaning variable replacement.

To avoid the shell evaluation, use ' not .
to avoid the sed special charater, escape it.

echo '123$45$678' | sed 's/\$/\\\$/g'

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Hi:

I have a quick question about replacing $ with \$ on unix. I need to
convert string 123$45$678 to 123\$45\$678 through a pipe. I tried with
sed command, but could not get it to work:

essex$ echo 123$45$678 | sed s/$/\$/g
123578$
essex$ echo 123$45$678 | sed s/$/\\$/g
123578$

Maybe there is another syntax that I should use? TIA.

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RE: fnd_global user_id

2003-01-10 Thread Ron Thomas

This package is auth current user.  You will need to either run this as APPS or place 
an auth
definer package around it.

Off to get my first pot of coffee...

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  I'm running concurrent program to create user (that's
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Re: strange issue with setting transaction

2003-01-04 Thread Ron Thomas

Any commits in the script that you run?

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I am running 8.1.6 on solaris 2.8.

Before running a large update, I tried to set a specific rollback
segment by:
Set transaction use rollback segment RBIG20;

The transaction runs for a while and fails with:

ORA-01555: snapshot too old: rollback segment number 29 with name R27
too
Small

Any idea?

Thank you

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Re: Oracle Application Server on .net

2002-12-17 Thread Ron Thomas

Metalink shows certification only for Oracle Server 9.2 on .net, so keep spinning 
those wheels...

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I have a developer trying to install Oracle9i Application Server Release 2 (9.0.3) on 
a .net server.
He's using the install disk for Windows NT and 2000.  Needless to say, it gives him an 
error and
throws up.


He considers .net just another operating system like np or 2000.  I think of it more 
like a
competitor for OAS.  At any rate, I can't find any mention of .net on either Metalink 
or OTN (except
how much better OAS is than .net)


Does anyone know if Oracle has an application server installation for .net?  If so, do 
you know how
I might get it?  Is this a silly question?  Should I be hanging my head in shame??


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RE: Help Urgent Where is Tablespace Manager??

2002-12-10 Thread Ron Thomas

For those that require a GUI interface, look into Tora.  Runs very nicely on linux, 
and I believe
there is a Winders version too.

BTW, yes I am a command line guy, but sometimes the boss wants to see pretty pictures.

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Back to my roots.


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We stopped using it for the same reasons, plus the fact that we had multiple Oracle 
Homes on our
cluster - which confused OEM.


Where is tablespace manager - just type sqlplus


Jay


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Paula,

I am using DBA Studio as a stand-alone product - not using the OMS service
part of the product.  I gave up on that because it could not discover all of
the databases at my current site.  We tried to figure out why it didn't work
but gave up when I started looking at the network/firewall issues we have
here.  We also use either Cron or Maestro to schedule all of the backup
jobs.  Soo, what did that leave for OEM to do?  It ended up being just
another software product to support that was just not worth the effort to
get to work properly.

So, we don't use it.

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Well I installed Version 2.2 of OEM and 9i OEM until I can figure this out
in separate homes.  I understand that some of the functionality (from
Metalink threads) seems to have been gone and that there is issues about
which version of OEM and support which version of database and how well the
newest version of OEM works in some basic functionality (like discovering
services).  So has everyone stopped using OEM?


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This is driving me crazy.  Can't seem to find the tablespace manager which I
used to pull up from DBA Studio - now I have a different version which
doesn't have DBA Studio - where has it been moved or is there a replacement?


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RE: SLA Trigger/Procedure

2002-12-03 Thread Ron Thomas

Yes, but can I get it signed...

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Ahem...

OK, I can not resist any longer.

The tools exist:  http://www.amazon.com/exec/obidos/tg/detail/-/0596002106

The 'dbup' script logs all connections attempts.  Use sed, perl, or
whatever
to parse the logfile, or modify to create logs more to your liking.

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Go buy a tool? Here is an idea instead ...
Write a small Perl (pick your favorite language here) script that looks at
/etc/oratab followed by a check to see if each of the instances listed in
/etc/oratab is up on the side where it is checking. It then log in as a
schema (we call it) called heartbeat, insert a row into a table with
sysdate. Wait 3 seconds, retrieve the row and checks the time difference.
If it is more than 5 seconds, you have a potential delay somewhere and
have it alert appropriate people. (If it is night, page your VP with This
is your heartbeat calling ... we have a problem ...)
Life is great with cron ...
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RE: ORA-1653: unable to extend table - Why?

2002-12-03 Thread Ron Thomas

Hum.

My last thought would are there triggers or snapshots defined on the table?

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Ron,

Good idea, but DEGREE=1

There are two indexes, but they are in a different tablespace (which has
plenty of free space available and did not give an error).

Next extent size is 25M but, as mentioned, it shouldn't have needed a new
extent.

I'm still at a loss...

Jay

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One thing I haven't seen mentioned yet is what degree of parallelism is
defined for the table?
What is the next extent size set to?
If the table is paralleled, EACH parallel worker will grab a next extent
sized segment. (Been bit by
this a few times...)
How many indexes and are they in the same tablespace?

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Yep, I agree that coalescing is irrelevant in my current situation.  In any
event there was no free space until I added the additional datafile but
there was the 8gig of space on the freelists.

Jay

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Richard,

if pctincrease is zero, and there are a large number of contiguous
smaller extents, SMON will not automatically coalesce the tablespace.
However, whether or not SMON does an automatic coalesce, if you need an
extent that is larger than any of the small ones, Oracle will coalesce
those smaller extents to make the one you need. so Jay would not have
needed to add a datafile no matter what, if he was not doing a direct
path insert.

As for meeting in person there is a user group meeting on Dec 12
(check www.nyoug.org for details). You can meet me, and more
importantly you can meet Tim Gorman, Dan Fink, Arup Nanda and Anita
Bardeen, also of this list. They are all presenting :)

I saw Priscilla about a month ago, haven't talked with her since.

Rachel

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 Rachel,

 What I mean to say is when there are a lot of contiguous smaller free
 extents.
 Then coalesce will produce a larger free extent so Jay wouldn't have
 to
 add a datafile for his table to grow.

 On the automatically coalescing part, I believe SMON will only
 coalesce
 when pctincrease != 0, or has that changed?  My understand could be
 outdated.
 With LMT one doesn't have to worry about it.

 Have a Happy Thanksgiving.

 PS, I am in New York too, would love to meet you

RE: ORA-1653: unable to extend table - Why?

2002-12-02 Thread Ron Thomas

One thing I haven't seen mentioned yet is what degree of parallelism is defined for 
the table?
What is the next extent size set to?
If the table is paralleled, EACH parallel worker will grab a next extent sized 
segment. (Been bit by
this a few times...)
How many indexes and are they in the same tablespace?

Ron Thomas
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Yep, I agree that coalescing is irrelevant in my current situation.  In any
event there was no free space until I added the additional datafile but
there was the 8gig of space on the freelists.

Jay

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Richard,

if pctincrease is zero, and there are a large number of contiguous
smaller extents, SMON will not automatically coalesce the tablespace.
However, whether or not SMON does an automatic coalesce, if you need an
extent that is larger than any of the small ones, Oracle will coalesce
those smaller extents to make the one you need. so Jay would not have
needed to add a datafile no matter what, if he was not doing a direct
path insert.

As for meeting in person there is a user group meeting on Dec 12
(check www.nyoug.org for details). You can meet me, and more
importantly you can meet Tim Gorman, Dan Fink, Arup Nanda and Anita
Bardeen, also of this list. They are all presenting :)

I saw Priscilla about a month ago, haven't talked with her since.

Rachel

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 Rachel,

 What I mean to say is when there are a lot of contiguous smaller free
 extents.
 Then coalesce will produce a larger free extent so Jay wouldn't have
 to
 add a datafile for his table to grow.

 On the automatically coalescing part, I believe SMON will only
 coalesce
 when pctincrease != 0, or has that changed?  My understand could be
 outdated.
 With LMT one doesn't have to worry about it.

 Have a Happy Thanksgiving.

 PS, I am in New York too, would love to meet you in person some time.
  Have
 you
 talked to Priscilla lately?

 Richard Ji


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 how would coalescing help even if there were a lot of smaller free
 extents? Oracle would do the coalesce automatically, there would be
 no
 difference between manually coalescing or allowing Oracle to do it
 when
 a new extent was needed.


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  Coalescing might help if there are many smaller free extents
  that can be coalesced.  But that still doesn't solve Jay's problem.
  Because he doesn't want the table to extent at all since he just
  deleted
  2 million rows so there are plenty of space within the segment
  itself.
  Those free blocks should be used, unless he is doing a direct path
  insert
  which will only use space above the HWM.
 
  Richard Ji
 
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Re: What is wrong with this package? Pls. help

2002-10-21 Thread Ron Thomas

Easy one.  The function declaration does not match between the spec and the body.

  function check_OK (n1 in number)
  function check_ok (nn in number)

Argument names must be the same.

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When we compile this package body, we are getting the error - PLS -
00323. Please help.

Platform: Solaris 7. Oracle 8.1.6.

Package is getting created without any errors.

When we try to compile package body we are getting the error
3/12 PLS-00323: subprogram or cursor 'CHECK_OK' is declared in a
 package specification and must be defined in the package body

Package:

CREATE OR REPLACE  PACKAGE P1  is
  msg_g number(3);
  function check_OK (n1 in number)
   return number;
  procedure test;
end p1;

create or replace package body p1 as
function check_ok (nn in number) return number
IS
KK number;
BEGIN
   KK := msg_g * nn;
   return KK;
   end check_ok;
procedure test as
  v1 number;
begin
  null;
end test;
end p1;
/

Thanks,

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Re: Cache hit ratio?

2002-10-09 Thread Ron Thomas


There is a script available (search the archives) that will set the ratio to anything 
you want...

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Hi
One of my database Cache Hit Ratio is low.I adjusted db_block_buffer and I
have noticed after week again cache hit ratio became low.
Can u please suggest what other things I can do to fix this problem?
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Re: Reports

2002-10-08 Thread Ron Thomas


make sure you also copy a good sqlnet.ora file.  This file has you default domain, etc.

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I don't work with Oracle Reports but one of my co-workers does.  His
problem --- TNS can't find the database.

He has three Oracle homes.  I've copied the good tnsnames.ora to all of his
homes (I know about the NETWORK and NET80 directories).

It's Report 6i on a Win2K machine trying to connect to an 8.1.6 Oracle.

He has Reports 6i installed on two of his Oracle homes and Reports 6.0 on
the other.  Don't ask me why --- I don't know.

I used the Oracle home changer and cycled through all 3 homes.

The error is ORA-12154: TNS could not resolve service name.

Is there anything special about having multiple copies of Reports on
Win2K?

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RE: how to retrieve numeric values only from a varchar2?

2002-10-07 Thread Ron Thomas


You don't need the ltrim if you use

to_char( i, 'FM099')

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I think if you try

ltrim(to_char(i,'099'));

it will remove a leading blank.  There is I'm sure a way of doing it
explicitly with the format of the to_char but I can't remember what it is.

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Hi,

Can anyone point me in the right direction. In my table I have a varchar2
column that contains a label that could be either text or numeric data. I
need to update another column in the same table based only on the rows in
the first column that are numeric. The values are in the range 001 to 999
only.

I have tried the following piece of pl/sql, unsuccessfully

declare
begin
for i in 1..999
loop
update tdcr set features=db_connect.e_features(132) where label =
to_char(i,'099');
end loop;
end;
/

Would anyone be able to tell me where I am going wrong or suggest an
efficient piece of sql to perform the task.


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RE: logon trigger

2002-10-03 Thread Ron Thomas


FWIW, do not place the terminating semicolon in the execute string, ie,

begin
  execute immediate 'Alter session set OPTIMIZER_MODE = choose' ;
end ;
/



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Hi all





Ok if I execute these commands/SQL in sqlplus it works. When I add to the trigger for 
after logon it
does not work.





I get the feeling it is only valid for the current block, begin -  End.





Any ideas to work around this.





grant alter session to smload;





drop trigger olap_logon_trigger;


create or replace trigger olapl_logon_trigger


  after logon on smload.schema


begin


  execute immediate 'Alter session enable parallel query;';


  execute immediate 'Alter session set SORT_AREA_SIZE = 10485760;';


   execute immediate 'Alter session set OPTIMIZER_MODE = choose;';


   execute immediate 'Alter session set CURRENT_SCHEMA = SIEBEL;';


   execute immediate 'SET TRANSACTION USE ROLLBACK SEGMENT RBBIG01;';


end;


/





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  Thx, I also found this last night.





  I will wait for the developers so arrive so that they can test their process.





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Altering current_schema, you will not see anything in user_tables, but 
you should be
able to reference tables in this new schema without using siebel prefix.





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 Hi all





 Ok the trigger has been changed to this, It compiles.





 The problem now is that all the objects that need to be access is owner 
by the siebel
 user. I do not want to create synonyms. The tool being used can not 
append the siebel
 schema name in front of the objects, and it is expecting to log in as 
siebel.





 Any idea why the 'Alter session set CURRENT_SCHEMA = SIEBEL;' is not 
changing my
 current schema. I have tried executing Alter session set CURRENT_SCHEMA = 
SIEBEL; in a
 standard sqlplus window and then looking at the user_tables table

Re: svrmgrl echo v$database in script

2002-10-02 Thread Ron Thomas


Sounds like you svrmgrl commands are in a where document.  You need to escape the $, 
ie

select name from v\$database ;



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Oracle 8.0.5
Solaris 2.6

List:
I've created a script (ksh) called from elsewhere that shuts down the
database.  I REALLY want to echo the name of the database into my log file
before I shut down.While select name from v$database works fine from
svrmgrl interactively, it throws up in the script.  I'd guess the $ sign is
screwing it up.  (I can get other commands to work within the script.)
However, I don't know what to do about it.

Any ideas?

Thx!!!

Barb

$ svrmgrl

SVRMGR connect internal
Connected.
SVRMGR select name from v$database;
NAME
-
TADENT
1 row selected.


#!/usr/bin/ksh
# $Id: stop_db.sh ver.1 10/02/2002 B.Baker Exp $
# Name: stop_db.sh
# Author:   Barb Baker
# Purpose:  execute shutdown immediate on current database
#   (i.e., database pointed to by current value of ORACLE_SID)

echo Stop oracle instance \${ORACLE_SID}\  at `date` 
   ${ORACLE_HOME}/bin/svrmgrl  EOF
   connect internal
   select name from v_$database;
EOF


$  ./stop_db.sh
Stop oracle instance tadent  at Wed Oct  2 16:24:59 MDT 2002


SVRMGR Connected.
SVRMGRselect name from v_
  *
ORA-00942: table or view does not exist
SVRMGR
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linux and Oracle Apps jinit

2002-09-26 Thread Ron Thomas


Has anyone found a way to use linux as a client to Oracle Applications?  The self 
service stuff runs
just fine but the Oracle Forms requires that damnable jinit.  This is the only problem 
left before I
can give MS the big Heave Ho.

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Re: Help on Effect of changing NLS_LANGUAGE to maerican_america.utf8

2002-09-25 Thread Ron Thomas


What version of the database?  What version of forms/reports?  What platform?  What is 
the current
characterset of the database?

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Hi Gurus

We customize pharmaceutical processing industry applications. One of our client is 
going global. The
client needs to change NLS_LANGUAGE setting to
NLS_LANG=american_america.utf8.
I would like to know how to change this and

what impacts will it have on reports and forms already custom developed for this 
client?

There are some barcode checksum calculation procedures for some reports. Will they get 
impacted by
changing the NLS_LANG?

A input on this is highly appreciated

Regards


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Web forms via PL/SQL

2002-09-25 Thread Ron Thomas


I need to write a pl/sql procedure to produce a form via the pl-sql cartridge.  Not a 
problem- been
doing this kinda thing now for a couple of years.

Now I need to handle a INPUT TYPE=FILE tag in the form.  Anyone know how to process 
the result via
pl/sql or am I going to need to write a cgi script to handle it.

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RE: Help on Effect of changing NLS_LANGUAGE to maerican_america.u

2002-09-25 Thread Ron Thomas
   

 the scripts to make 
table columns long enough and 
 create

 the new schemas   

 - If you do not have 
the scripts, export the old  
 database  

 with ROWS=N, import 
it and use ALTER TABLE to make
 the necessary 

 length changes

 - Export the old 
database with ROWS=Y; make sure to   
 set NLS_LANG  

 to .WE8ISO8859P1 
before the export
 - Import the old 
database data with IGNORE=Y; make
 sure the NLS_LANG 

 is still 
.WE8ISO8859P1
   

 This basic steps may 
need refinement due to possible  
 non-NLS related 
issues with full export/import but
 this would be out of 
scope of my answer.  
   

 ## What should be the 
NLS_LANG , NLS_CHARACTERSET 
 parameters?   

   

 NLS_CHARACTERSET is 
the database character set, i.e.  
 it would be UTF8. 
NLS_LANG would depend on the way
 you implement 
multiple language support in your   
 application.  

   

 See   

 
http://otn.oracle.com/tech/globalization/content.html 
 for some interesting 
white papers.
   

   





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Sorry Gurus

The database version is: 8.1.6.0.0
Reports: 6.0.5.28.0
Forms: 6.0.5.2

Current NLS_LANGUAGE: AMERICAN

Re: dbms_job.remove

2002-09-23 Thread Ron Thomas


dbms_ijob allows you to remove any job.

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Oracle 8.1.7 docs state you have to own a job to remove it.  I would
like to remove another users job.  Is the only way to do by doing the
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RE: PL/SQL help

2002-09-20 Thread Ron Thomas


David-

I've thought of both dbms_sql and dummy conditions too.  Oracle Application reports 
use the dummy
conditions all the time.

I'm off to see if you can set cursor_sharing at the session level and not use bind 
params.

I'm assuming no one else has figured this out either due to the lack of response.

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Ron

We've run into this problem and haven't really found a satisfactory answer.
It sounds like a job for dbms_sql, but the docs say its slower than native
dynamic sql.  Has anyone tested this?  One other alternative I can think of
(but have never tried) is to use dummy conditions in the sql; something
like: -

c_sql := 'select col1 from atable where col2 = :1 and :2 is null and :3 is
null';

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 I am building a dynamic sql statement which will contain
 varying number of bind variables depending
 on user selection criteria.  As an example, the sql statement may be:

 c_sql := 'select col1 from  atable where col2 = :1' ;

 or it may be

 c_sql := 'select col1 from  atable where col2 = :1 and col2
 between :2 and :3' ;

 or it may be ... etc.  I am trying to avoid ugly code such as:

 IF case1 THEN
   OPEN csr FOR c_sql USING var1 ;
 ELSIF case2 THEN
   OPEN csr FOR c_sql USING var1, var2, var3 ;
 ELSIF .
 END IF ;

 Once the sql statement is created, it will be opened/closed
 multiple times, so I want to use bind
 variables to avoid parsing.

 So I thought, hum, sounds like a job for EXECUTE IMMEDIATE,
 but in the various incarnations I tried,
 could not get it to work.  The FM have not been much help
 (still looking tho).

 What am I missing?

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RE: How can I change Oracle as well as NT Domain passwords

2002-09-20 Thread Ron Thomas


If you are Oracle Applications 11.5, look at the FNDCPASS utility.  This allows you to 
change
application user passwords from the command line.  They have also exposed password 
change
functionality in the FND_USER_PK (I think thats the name).  You would need to roll 
your own
interface into whatever single sign-on mechanism you use.

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Thanks for responding

I need to change oracle application user's password from within application.
I also need to change same user's W2K/NT domain account password whenever
that user changes their password in oracle application. Hope I am clear
here.

Appreciate your response

and Thanks a ton in advance

Shiva B
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Are you trying to change the Oracle and NT Domain accounts
which are the same and you want the same password ???
If not,  write a script or request that one be sent to you.


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Hi All

How can I change passwords of a user of Oracle application as well as W2K/NT
Login? Any utility in 8/8i can do this form me?

Thanks in Advance

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PL/SQL help

2002-09-19 Thread Ron Thomas


I am building a dynamic sql statement which will contain varying number of bind 
variables depending
on user selection criteria.  As an example, the sql statement may be:

c_sql := 'select col1 from  atable where col2 = :1' ;

or it may be

c_sql := 'select col1 from  atable where col2 = :1 and col2 between :2 and :3' ;

or it may be ... etc.  I am trying to avoid ugly code such as:

IF case1 THEN
  OPEN csr FOR c_sql USING var1 ;
ELSIF case2 THEN
  OPEN csr FOR c_sql USING var1, var2, var3 ;
ELSIF .
END IF ;

Once the sql statement is created, it will be opened/closed multiple times, so I want 
to use bind
variables to avoid parsing.

So I thought, hum, sounds like a job for EXECUTE IMMEDIATE, but in the various 
incarnations I tried,
could not get it to work.  The FM have not been much help (still looking tho).

What am I missing?

Thanks,
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Re: backup controlfile to trace

2002-09-18 Thread Ron Thomas


If you want to do this method without a log file...

your_file=$( sqlplus -s EOF | tail -1
/ as sysdba
oradebug setmypid
alter database backup controlfile to trace;
oradebug tracefile_name
exit
EOF )
echo $your_file


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Yes, you can certainly do that -- I was just disappointed that the script
would have to be a shell script instead of just a sql script.

I usually do it without creating an intermediate logfile at all by using
ksh's bidirectional pipe feature.

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What about:

sqlplus -s EOF logfile
/ as sysdba
oradebug setmypid
alter database backup controlfile to trace;
oradebug tracefile_name
exit
EOF
your_file=`tail -1 logfile`
echo $your_file


Regards,

Waleed

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Wow. I had no idea it was so easy! I just tried it out on 8.0.5.1
(svrmgrl)
and 8.1.7.2 (SQL*Plus) and it worked like a charm! Only problem is I can't
figure out an elegant way to capture that information in a variable so
that
I can (for example) do:

host mv trcfile /backups/

-- Philip

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SQL oradebug setmypid
Statement processed.
SQL alter database backup controlfile to trace;

Database altered.

SQL oradebug tracefile_name
/webstat/oracle/admin/wbs2/udump/wbs2_ora_22958.trc

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8.1.7

For scripting purposes, what is the logic for finding the trc file from
alter database backup controlfile to trace cmd?  This seems really
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RE: backup controlfile to trace

2002-09-17 Thread Ron Thomas


Snippet of code I use:

ls -t ${UDUMP} | while read line ; do
  ${GREP} -q 'CREATE CONTROLFILE' ${UDUMP}/${line}
  if [ $? -eq 0 ] ; then
echo   Processing file ${ORACLE_SID}.ccf
cp ${UDUMP}/${line} ${ORACLE_SID}.ccf
break
  fi
done


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The way we do it is not 100% but it seems close enough.  We run the backup
command and then do a descending order listing by date from the trace
directory.   The first file is the one containing the trace.

If anyone has a beter idea, I am all ears.

Kevin

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Re: Followup: Apache core dumps after IP address change (solution)

2002-09-17 Thread Ron Thomas


The one thing to learn from all of this is to always bounce your services before 
performing an
upgrade.  It's the one thing we tend to forget about in a unix env since this services 
can be up for
extended periods of time.

FLAME BAITOf course, those on a windows env bounce more routinely and would have 
discovered this
library mismatch /FLAME BAIT

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Thanks to everyone who suggested ideas for my emergency yesterday.  The problem only 
became
obvious after a complete reinstall of Oracle on my server.  I took this approach after 
finding a
thread on the ODTUG-JAVA-L mailing list that talked about how 9iAS Rel 2 has hardcoded 
values for
the IP address.  The thread indicated that there was no way of changing the IP address 
of a server
short of a complete Oracle reinstall.  After literally exhausting all other ideas of 
my own (and
needing to get the server back up asap), I reinstalled Oracle 8.1.7 last night on a 
new partition.
Once the default installation finished, everything worked fine.

After restoring my schemas and other configurations, things still continued to work 
fine.  Apache
continued to start without core dumping and life was good.  The moment I moved my old 
httpd.conf
file back into place, Apache core dumped.  Clearly, it was no longer an issue of 
hardcoded IP
addresses, so I started taking the httpd.conf file apart into small pieces.

The culprit was an upgrade RedHat Network passed along to PHP4 and glibc about a month 
ago.  I
allowed the PHP4 upgrade and glibc library upgrades to be installed.  Apache continued 
to run using
the old libphp4.so module without problem, but the moment I would have had to either 
reboot the
server or restart Apache, it would have died because the libraries had changed.  
Adding PHP4, BTW,
is a custom enhancement I made to the stock 8.1.7 Apache config as I need it on 
several parts of my
server.  I found the latest libphp4.so file, moved it into the /u01/.../libexec 
directory, restarted
Apache and all was well with the world again.  17 hours of work later, I believe I 
have things as
they should be once again.

Lesson learned: if Apache core dumps (something I haven't seen it do in years) when 
restarting after
a long period of uptime, then suspect a module/library problem.

Side note: if anyone wants to know every nook and cranny where Oracle stores your IP 
address and
domain names, I can tell you that now. :-)

Thanks again!
bruce

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Re: Migration Assistant Speeds

2002-09-11 Thread Ron Thomas


Also keep in mind that if you use the assistant to go from 7.x to 8.x, the system 
tablespace will
grow at least 2x.  During the migration process, both the 7.x and 8.x data dictionary 
exists.  For
our Oracle Applications 10.7 instances with 55,000 objects, this was not acceptable.  
We instead
exported/imported.  This also gave us the apportunity to move to LMTs.

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Keep in mind that the actual change to DB internal header blocks
does not occur until they are actually read into the DB. Therefore
I  launched an ANALYZE to build statistics which ran 12 - 14 hours.

-- I shall go for full export with direct=y recordlength-65535 and
file=/dev/null which may be much faster then analyzemay be 5-6 hours
.

Regards
Rafiq




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I did a 150GB V7.3.4.5 upgrade to V9.2 in less than 2 hours.

Keep in mind that the actual change to DB internal header blocks
does not occur until they are actually read into the DB. Therefore
I  launched an ANALYZE to build statistics which ran 12 - 14 hours.

THT  YMMV!




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Re: 9ir2 Install on Linux

2002-09-10 Thread Ron Thomas


Did you delete the OraInventory directory?  It's location is specified in
/var/opt/oracle/oraInst.loc file.

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I am attempting to install 9ir2 on a Red Hat 7.2 Linux
box.  Part way through the first attempt I decided to
changed the Oracle home value.  I stopped the install,
deleted the previous Oracle home directory tree, built
the new directory and restarted the install.

Oracle has stored the value of the old Oracle home
somewhere.  The install is now crashing because the
old Oracle home does not exist.  Any idea where it is
store and who owns the file?  I have already deleted
the install files in /tmp.  The .bash_profile has the
correct Oracle home.

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RE: How to increase maxextents of ROLLBACK segment_type?

2002-08-28 Thread Ron Thomas


FYI-

FWIR, it is no longer required to create a second rollback segment in SYSTEM at 
database creation.
This requirement was removed at version 8 (or possibly even 7.3.4).

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hm, it might be that I was thinking of the second rollback segment
you had to create in the system tablespace before you could create any
other tablespaces

remove that might, that sounds more along the lines of what I was
thinking.

sorry for the confusion. I bow to the redo/undo/rollback expert


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 that the system rbs is used by the kernel for normal operations and
 by other
 transactions if the other rbs are too full. The system rbs should
 never be
 specifically allocated to a transaction by a user.

 Always create additional rollback segments in a separate tablespace.
 If you
 fill up the rbs tablespace, the transaction fails. If you fill up the
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 create a rollback tablespace, create new rollback segments IN the
 rollback tablespace and take the rollback segment named SYSTEM
 offline. Do NOT use it.

 Having an active rollback segment in your system tablespace is like
 allowing users to create objects there. Especially listen to Stephane
 and READ the manuals. You should not be increasing the allowable size
 of that segment, it should be tiny and unused.


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   Mark,
  Thanks, your command doesn't help. To answer your question,
 Database
  was setup'd by previous DBA. Still i've never seen this type of
  segment...
  SQL alter rollback SEGMENT sys.system storage (maxextents 1024);
  alter rollback SEGMENT sys.system storage (maxextents 1024)
*
  ERROR at line 1:
  ORA-02244: invalid ALTER ROLLBACK SEGMENT option
 
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Mark Leith [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Do you mind if I ask
 why?
  Do you have any other rollback segments in place
  other than the SYSTEM one?
 
  In answer to your question though, look at the error message.. You
  missed
  out the word segment.
 
  alter rollback SEGMENT sys.system storage (maxextents 1024);
 
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  Dear Gurus,
  Could you please help me out with this - I want to increase the
  maxextents
  of below segment.
  TIA,
  SQL select OWNER,SEGMENT_NAME,SEGMENT_TYPE,EXTENTS,MAX_EXTENTS
  2 from dba_segments
  3 where ((max_extents-extents)/max_extents)*100 40 and max_extents
  != 0
  4 /
  OWNER SEGMENT_NAME SEGMENT_TYPE EXTENTS MAX_EXTENTS
  -- --- -- -- ---
  SYS SYSTEM ROLLBACK 505 505
  SQL connect sys
  Enter password:
  Connected.
  SQL alter ROLLBACK sys.system storage (maxextents 1024);
  alter ROLLBACK sys.system storage (maxextents 1024)
  *
  ERROR at line 1:
  ORA-01902: SEGMENT keyword expected
 
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Re: sql loader control file help

2002-08-26 Thread Ron Thomas


Make sure your environment NLS_LANG matches how the data is encoded in your flat file.

Also, does the database characterset handle whatever special characters you are trying 
to import?

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I am not, by any means, a SQL*Loader expert (Jonathan, I keep meaning
to get your book!)

Here's the thing:

I have a flat file with character data that includes special characters
(like accents and diacritical marks over letters). When I load the data
in using SQL*Loader, the special characters disappear and are replaced
by the letter (so Dvorák goes on as Dvorak).

How can I get the data in as it should be? I've been reading and will
continue to read the fine manual, but I'm not finding this...

Help!

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RE: Unix scripting need help

2002-08-26 Thread Ron Thomas


Blimey!  Doesn't anyone know korn shell out there any more.

AMEN!

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Blimey!  Doesn't anyone know korn shell out there any more.  Perl perl perl -- that's 
all I ever
hear anymore.  It gets old... (I'm gonna have to buy Jared's book one of these days).

x=${file1%.log}
file_tag1=${x#mylogfile}

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 For example, my files are like these

mylogfile001.log
mylogfile002.log

 I want to initialize my variables with those number, like this

 i=1
 for all_file in `ls -1 /tmp`
 do

file$i=all_file
i=i+1
 done

 file_tag1=`unix_command $file1 `  --- help me here

 when I do

 echo $file_tag1

 it should give me 001

Is your purpose to simply display the numbers or to
generate the maximum in order to start naming new files?

If the latter seriously consider using a timestamp:

i=$(date +%Y%m%d%H%M%S);

this solves all of the math for you automaticlly. A one-
second sleep at the start of your program guarantees that
you will not re-use the names.

To get the digit strings out you could use sed or perl:

i=$( echo $file | sed -e 's/[^0-9]*//g' )

or use perl for the code instead of shell:

for( @ARGV )
{
my ($i ) = /(\d+)/;
Print File and number: $_, $i\n;
}



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Re: Oracle Linking

2002-08-18 Thread Ron Thomas


Don't forget about the relink script in $ORACLE_HOME/bin.  This is new starting with 
8.1.7 (I
think).

From the script...
#!/bin/sh
#
#NAME
#   relink
#
#DESCRIPTION
#   performs manual relinking of Oracle product executables based
#   on what has been installed in the ORACLE_HOME.
#   script calls appropriate makefile targets for the following
#   accepted script parameters:
#   all -- everything which has been installed
#   oracle -- oracle database executable only
#   network -- net_client, net_server, cman, names
#   client -- net_client, otrace, plsql
#   client_sharedlib
#   interMedia -- ctx
#   precomp -- all precompilers which have been installed
#   utilities -- utilities
#   oemagent -- oemagent, odg
#

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If linking is stuck at genclntsh, 100% cpu utilization, no disk activity,
what could be the possible reasons for this?

Thanks.

ltiu

On Sunday 18 August 2002 10:18, ltiu wrote:
 There is apparently two stages to the Oracle installation on Unix. A file
 copying installation where all the required binaries are copied from cdrom
 to hard disk and a linking install where the binary/object files are
 linked.

 If the first stage succeeds but the second stage does not. How do I start
 the linking install without having to go through the first stage copying
 install again?

 Thanks.

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RE: Dba tools on NT

2002-08-13 Thread Ron Thomas


Actually I like this little text editor:
http://www.fixedsys.com/context/
One of its advantages is its syntax highlighting. And it's free!
Disadvantage is it's windows only...

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RE: ORA-1658 even though there is enough contig free (SOLVED)

2002-07-31 Thread Ron Thomas


FYI, you do have the choice of running server partitioned.  I'm running 10.7 character 
with 8.1.7.4
with no problems.

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Waleed,
We are running different versions from 7.3.4.5 to 9i. Ver 7.3.4.5 is for
Oracle Financials 10.7 Char and company not yet decided to go for
Application 11i so we have to support it for a while and face all such
limitations ver 7.3.4.

Sorry no choice but to live with it.

Regards
Rafiq





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Any plans for Oracle upgrade? :)

Waleed

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Rich,

Thanks for reply and your explanation. For ver 7.3.4 dba_free_space specify
large extent available but when using initial extent of around that size ,
it never creates initial extent of that size and generate error so I am not
relying it and instead using this query. However I am not using any
partitioning as 7.3.4 don't have this option

Regards
Rafiq



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Hi Rafiq,

Right, PARALLEL does do that, which is why I had stated in the original post
that I had tried the CREATE without PARALLEL after coalescing the TS.

In the meantime, I have figured out what the problem is.  My problem is on a
test system.  This test system's MYCOOLTBL happens to be partitioned and
the index was being created LOCAL.  So, with 4 partitions, the CREATE
needed 4 extents of 140MB each.  Thus, a single 140MB free extent wasn't
enough.  Once I fixed the partitioned table, the index created fine in
140MB.

Your query, however, still only returns a max value of 36MB, which is not
true for me.  After quickly looking thru your query, I'd say it has to do
with going after max(block_id) in the subquery.  The maximum block_id for
freespace in this TS probably points to a 36MB extent, but it is not the
largest free extent.  Use DBA_FREE_SPACE.  :)

Thanks!
Rich Jesse   System/Database Administrator
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   That query give u perfect size in shape of FAT_MB and that's
   the maximun
   size of intitial extent... I never relied on DBA_FREE_SPACE
   Have you coalesed yr tablespace before and after running this
   query? Besides
   using parallel 2 , it requires 2 extents of 140M instead of
   one extent of
   140M so u may reduce yr initial extent size to start with 20M
   for initial
   and next...
  
   If u have any specific question, please let me know
  
   Regards
   Rafiq
  
  
  
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   Hmmm...I'm confused.  Your query returns the second biggest chunk from
   DBA_FREE_SPACE on that TS

RE: Why DB_Name 4 chars only.

2002-07-30 Thread Ron Thomas


This relates back to the dos days (break out that chisel).  8.3 filename format 
requires a sid less
than 5 characters, eg, init.ora

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We have SIDs 9 chars long!

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Hi,
What is the reason behind DB_Name/SID usually 4 chars
length only. I have a customer who is asking us to
create instance/db with 6 chars length. We usually
keep instance name and db_name parameters same in .ora
file. Can someone please explain the reason behind
db_name 4 chars only. Is it a common practice to keep
SID/db_name/instance name parameters same (for example
PBDS).

thanks
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