RE: reagan cortege
You're the one who hijacked my email to unsubscribe me you twit. -Original Message- From: William Robb [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Friday, June 11, 2004 1:34 AM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: reagan cortege Wow, smart boy managed to hijack my email address somehow. Does this mean I have to killfile myself as well? Going to this much effort over an email list is certainly a sign of someone who is kinda unstable. Regards the real William Robb - Original Message - From: William Robb [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Thursday, June 10, 2004 10:25 PM Subject: RE: reagan cortege Be careful what you wish for. Or in this case, intend to provoke. When I see right wingers promoting their figure heads, fire shoots from my eyes... (It has a particularly bad effect with drapes, or in you all's case, drips.) Sorry, but I figure this dead horse won't mind another couple of wallops. -Shawn
RE: reagan cortege
Whenever I was losing a fight, say to 3 or more guys, I always ended up hightailing it before I got seriously hurt actually. Yes, I have run from fights I probably couldn't win... I once was walking down the street on Saint Patty's, fairly intoxicated, but not falling down drunk, and the unique thing is about this situation, in this town, Savannah, Saint Patty is chaos. Anyhow, 2 guys sitting on top of their SUV call me a name or something and I tell him to get stuffed. So they both jump down and say they want to fight. And me being me, I figure, what the hell, you know, lets do it. So I walk up to the first guy and he kind of runs away then the other comes at me and he belts me right across the face, and some people watching, gasp and say holy shit etc. But being a dumbshit, he stands there and watches to see what his punch did, I turn to him and say, You hit like a woman, really loud too, so everybody can hear it. Then I walk towards him and he pretends to have a knife, so in the interest of not getting stabbed I hightail it out of there. The moral is, I'm dumb enough to fight, but not to get maimed. -Shawn -Original Message- From: William Robb [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Friday, June 11, 2004 1:28 AM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: reagan cortege - Original Message - From: Treena Subject: Re: reagan cortege Though I think P. Stenquist actually wrote As written, it means you have an asshole on your face. Thats what comes from losing too many fights and being too stupid to not get your nose knocked into your nasal cavity. I am sure that as written, it's a pretty accurate description. WW
YAWN
.. Your email is not hijacked, its just a very simple spoof using outlook. You did it to me, I returned the favor. All's well that ends well, I won't use your damn email anymore. -Shawn
Re: YAWN
I did it for a good cause. You did it to be an asshole. Fuck off - Original Message - From: William Robb [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Thursday, June 10, 2004 11:04 PM Subject: YAWN .. Your email is not hijacked, its just a very simple spoof using outlook. You did it to me, I returned the favor. All's well that ends well, I won't use your damn email anymore. -Shawn
Wath'd I say
Ray Charles Ronbinson is dead ! 8=((
RE: reagan cortege - E-Dope Slap
On Thu, 10 Jun 2004, Shawn K. wrote: PLONK (whatever the hell that means) http://www.clueless.com/jargon3.0.0/plonk.html anders - http://anders.hultman.nu/ med dagens bild och allt!
Re: reagan cortege
Hi, Friday, June 11, 2004, 3:47:42 AM, Shawn wrote: Yeah Bob, you're just so witty and smart, because being witty equals being smart, never mind all those things like SAT scores, and IQ scores, and what have you I'm honestly not friendly, nor do I really like people, they largely annoy me, I'm super competitive, I always want to win, and it miffs me when its impossible to win. Like now, now it's impossible to win, it's impossible to save face, but I must run this broken train through wall after wall until every single one of you simply give up out of sheer fatigue. Its just the way I am. Sorry, but my will to achieve the upper hand is simply enormous in these types of situations. I probably should have pursued a degree in dictatorships, or gone to Grad school as a Fascist overlord in training. But you know, my school just didn't offer such forward thinking fields of study. Go figure. I'll bet you've got really big bollocks too! http://www.discoverchimpanzees.org/behaviors/top.php?dir=Aggressiontopic=Charging_Display -- Cheers, Bob
RE: reagan cortege - E-Dope Slap
In that case plonk to you both. -Shawn -Original Message- From: Anders Hultman [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Friday, June 11, 2004 2:16 AM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: RE: reagan cortege - E-Dope Slap On Thu, 10 Jun 2004, Shawn K. wrote: PLONK (whatever the hell that means) http://www.clueless.com/jargon3.0.0/plonk.html anders - http://anders.hultman.nu/ med dagens bild och allt!
RE: reagan cortege - E-Dope Slap
Oh, here's a word for you, its only used by me and the chipmunks, chatter, chatter its a form of public ridicule, so devious, so maligned, that you are heretofore cast into the lowest echelons of society simply by its invocation!! (Making the point that just because you can make up stupid words doesn't make them mean anything) -Shawn -Original Message- From: Anders Hultman [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Friday, June 11, 2004 2:16 AM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: RE: reagan cortege - E-Dope Slap On Thu, 10 Jun 2004, Shawn K. wrote: PLONK (whatever the hell that means) http://www.clueless.com/jargon3.0.0/plonk.html anders - http://anders.hultman.nu/ med dagens bild och allt!
Re: Reagan's State Funeral
Thatcher wrecked our pensions, public transport, health and education systems. And we are still paying the price for her short sitedness to this day. Laisse faire economics of the type preached by her and Reagan does not work. Antonio On 11 Jun 2004, at 11:09, Keith Whaley wrote: Maggie Thatcher the rest of your life, too. It's just the way you're built. But, she DID good things for Britain when it needed it most, and caught nothing but flack from all the more liberal MPs and the Socialists in the country.
Re: Wath'd I say
[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: In a message dated 6/10/2004 11:16:58 PM Pacific Standard Time, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: Ray Charles Ronbinson is dead ! 8=(( --- Yeah, bummer. I keep wonder if any of my posts are getting through. I sent one about Sold on Digital that never showed up. Not on my version of the list anyway. Came thru on my computer, Marnie... I thought it was a good post! Mirrored some of my thoughts, too... keith whaley Which is very frustrating with this political flame war going on. I was trying to change the pace. (I read about 4 posts and enough to know that one is.) A couple of others never showed up either, and my mailbox is only 1/2 full. :-) Marnie aka Doe
Re: pentax-discuss-d Digest V04 #549
- Original Message - From: Greg Lovern Subject: Re: pentax-discuss-d Digest V04 #549 Any thoughts on the comment in the dpreview.com *ist D review that Photo Laboratory causes artifacts that look like Bayer interpolation artifacts? The comment there is: coment snipped becaus I don't give a rat's ass about what they say, and neither should you They are a bunch of equiobators. Why the fuck don't we just go out and make pictures with our cameras. Computer jerks look for all the little wonks and say I couldn't make a picture with this crap. Photographers make pictures, and don't give a shit about Bayer interpolations William Robb
Re: reagan cortege - no political content!
William Robb wrote: - Original Message - From: Chris Stoddart Subject: Re: reagan cortege - no political content! http://www.bigdayphoto.com/reagan/040609-173122-6008.htm shows a soldier in a bearskin hat. Do American regiments wear these? We are in the middle of an election here. The beaver head is the guy our Prime Minister sent to represent Canada. There are days I am embarassed to be Canadian. Playing politics with a state funeral really gauls me. William Robb I don't know how that's playing politics as you put it. It is one country showing respect at the funeral of another country's statesman. A proper and acceptable conduct. It wasn't just a state funeral, as you call it, it was a showing of honor toward the President of a neighboring state... and I think it was a nice gesture. Why do you find it embarrassing? keith whaley
Fw: PAW-Dome Shot
didn't take the first time... - Original Message - From: cbwaters [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Thursday, June 10, 2004 10:34 PM Subject: PAW-Dome Shot For the Olympics in 1996 NBC had this black shroud made to block out the Sun in the Georgia Dome so they could broadcast events at night and you wouldn't know they'd taken place in the daytime. The roof in the Dome is translucent so we can play football (American) inside but still feel a little like we're outside... You can see the light peaking in around the seams. Anyway, once in a while, we have a client who drags this thing out of storage, at great expense, and makes it dark in the daytime again. It takes some getting used-to. http://community.webshots.com/photo/93489626/151463772pHMTFk Cory --- Outgoing mail is certified Virus Free. Checked by AVG anti-virus system (http://www.grisoft.com). Version: 6.0.701 / Virus Database: 458 - Release Date: 6/9/2004 --- Outgoing mail is certified Virus Free. Checked by AVG anti-virus system (http://www.grisoft.com). Version: 6.0.701 / Virus Database: 458 - Release Date: 6/10/2004
Re: reagan cortege - no political content!
Excellent call, Ryan! Now William can sleep more soundly...and Chris has a proper answer to his question. g keith Ryan Lee wrote: Hi Chris, Your post piqued my curiosity, and being obsessive, I embarked on a bit of a tedious quest to match tv's photo: http://www.bigdayphoto.com/reagan/040609-173122-6008.htm with some regiment somewhere. I narrowed it down to the Grenadier, Welsh, Irish, Scots and Coldstream Guards. Interestingly, they're differentiated by button spacings on the tunics: http://www.irishguards.net/IG2.htm However, that was a bit of a dead end, then I found out Canadian Grenadiers wear it too (after all, the hats come from their bears..). But alas, the uniform did not match. Then I chanced upon an Encarta definition which mentioned drum majors too. Kept checking and definitive success: http://www.marineband.usmc.mil/abt_band_uni_drum.html Cheers, Ryan PS. Hilarious fact: Regarding the difficulties encountered while searching for a synthetic alternative to bearskin, They were also subject to static electricity, which was rather embarrassing when they passed under (electricity) pylons. http://www.news-star.com/stories/081497/world2.html - Original Message - From: Chris Stoddart [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Friday, June 11, 2004 5:46 PM Subject: Re: reagan cortege - no political content! I thought Tom's pictures were interesting and important regardless of anything political - all the funeral proceedings have had at least some exposure in the UK media. I know there are some knowlegeable people on this list (ahem), so this picture of Tom's here: http://www.bigdayphoto.com/reagan/040609-173122-6008.htm shows a soldier in a bearskin hat. Do American regiments wear these? Which ones, does anyone know? I thought they were a British-only phenomenon? (cue cliche shot of London No356, Guardsman standing outside Buck Palace). Chris
Re: curious about two lenses
Alex Nemerosky describes both the SMCP-A 200/4 and SMCP-M 28/3.5 at http://home.att.net/~alnem/html/pentax_primes.html#28 I'm not sure I'd want to get an -A 200/4, nor pay that much: they are going for between $40 [E] and $90 [M] on eBay. I'm also not sure that the -A is better than the -M: all information I've seen says the opposite. I'm very pleased with my Vivitar Series 1 200/3, which you can get for less than $200; although they are scarce, and usually have an M42 mount - even less 'friendly' than an -M series lens. The SMC Takumar 28/3.5 is not the same as the SMC 28/3.5 - see the SMCT specs at http://www.aohc.it/, it has one less element than the 'K', different minimum focus distance, etc... The -M 28/3.5 sounds like a good lens, especially for a performance trade-off against the other Pentax and Nikon lenses. I have a 'K' 28/3.5, and it lives up to its excellent reputation. The lens tests you propose sound very interesting, but the 'bargain' lens at KEH is probably not in good enough condition for a rigorous test: Yoshihiko Takinami advises Only test lenses in excellent optical and working mechanical condition http://www.takinami.com/yoshihiko/photo/lens_test/pdml-procedure.html bye, Jim www.jcolwell.ca
Re: Reagan's State Funeral
Do you feel better now? - Original Message - From: Antonio Aparicio [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Friday, June 11, 2004 5:26 AM Subject: Re: Reagan's State Funeral Thatcher wrecked our pensions, public transport, health and education systems. And we are still paying the price for her short sitedness to this day. Laisse faire economics of the type preached by her and Reagan does not work. Antonio On 11 Jun 2004, at 11:09, Keith Whaley wrote: Maggie Thatcher the rest of your life, too. It's just the way you're built. But, she DID good things for Britain when it needed it most, and caught nothing but flack from all the more liberal MPs and the Socialists in the country. --- Outgoing mail is certified Virus Free. Checked by AVG anti-virus system (http://www.grisoft.com). Version: 6.0.701 / Virus Database: 458 - Release Date: 6/10/2004
PAW - Man With Camera at Museum (My first scan)
This afternoon the new scanner arrived. Feeling like a kid on his birthday, I immediately set about making some scans. The first thing I learned was that it's not a bad idea to read the manual ;-)) This is the first scan after so doing. A couple of days ago a friend and I went to the San Francisco Museum of Modern Art to enjoy a couple of photography exhibitions that had been recommended. Being the intrusive and annoying person that I am, I set about photographing some of the patrons in the museum. Hell, we weren't allowed to photograph the art work, so it seemed a good idea to make our own. We saw some old photos which were very warm toned, so here's something of an homage to old photos and to breaking some rules. http://home.earthlink.net/~sbelinkoff/images/bill-moma.html Oh, yeah, about the technical detail:. This photo could have been made with any camera, any appropriate lens, and most any film. Shel Belinkoff
Re: reagan cortege
On 11/6/04, TREENA, discombobulated, offered: And for the record, just because you describe yourself in an e-mail doesn't mean that's what you really are. I could tell you I'm 21 and I look like Britney Spears but it wouldn't make it true. but are you and do you? ...sorry ;-) Cheers, Cotty ___/\__ || (O) | People, Places, Pastiche ||=|www.macads.co.uk/snaps _
Re: reagan cortege - no political content!
- Original Message - From: Keith Whaley Subject: Re: reagan cortege - no political content! I don't know how that's playing politics as you put it. It is one country showing respect at the funeral of another country's statesman. A proper and acceptable conduct. It wasn't just a state funeral, as you call it, it was a showing of honor toward the President of a neighboring state... and I think it was a nice gesture. Why do you find it embarrassing? Because my God damned Prime Minister is down there on a G-8 summit meeting or some such, and can't be bothered with paying respects to our neighbour's past leader. The whole thing is to be politics. The press here thinks that if Martin shows respect to Reagan, he is cozying up to the Americans, which could be political suicide during an election campaign. The jack ass is playing politics with what should be a cut and dried duty of a leader. Politics should not be involved in the non political aspects of the duties of leadership. I mean, how dare Reagan have the temerity to die during a anadian election William Robb
Re: Reagan's State Funeral
Thanks for your comments. You are, of course, not alone in your beliefs. As many of your fellow countrymen feel the same way as you do, as those who disagree with your opinions. I don't know which viewpoint is correct. I read all viewpoints, and try to understand...but all I know is what's published in the news media. Thanks again, keith Antonio Aparicio wrote: Thatcher wrecked our pensions, public transport, health and education systems. And we are still paying the price for her short sitedness to this day. Laisse faire economics of the type preached by her and Reagan does not work. Antonio On 11 Jun 2004, at 11:09, Keith Whaley wrote: ...Maggie Thatcher the rest of your life, too. It's just the way you're built. But, she DID good things for Britain when it needed it most, and caught nothing but flack from all the more liberal MPs and the Socialists in the country.
Re: GFM My Reactions People Snapshots
frank theriault [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Tremendous photos, Marnie!! You really captured the spirit of the event. They'd be even better in bw, taken with film, on a Pentax. vbg ...as opposed to a Leica CL? ebg -- Mark Roberts Photography and writing www.robertstech.com
Re: Reagan's State Funeral
Who are you asking, C.B.? Antonio or me? keith cbwaters wrote: Do you feel better now? - Original Message - From: Antonio Aparicio [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Friday, June 11, 2004 5:26 AM Subject: Re: Reagan's State Funeral Thatcher wrecked our pensions, public transport, health and education systems. And we are still paying the price for her short sitedness to this day. Laisse faire economics of the type preached by her and Reagan does not work. Antonio On 11 Jun 2004, at 11:09, Keith Whaley wrote: ...Maggie Thatcher the rest of your life, too. It's just the way you're built. But, she DID good things for Britain when it needed it most, and caught nothing but flack from all the more liberal MPs and the Socialists in the country.
Re: Trade ?
Collin R Brendemuehl [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I have a perfectly functional (though well-worn) MG to trade for something. But I don't know what. Make me an offer. Well I don't have anything to offer in trade but TV's got a new dog... -- Mark Roberts Photography and writing www.robertstech.com
Re: reagan cortege - no political content!
Much obliged! Ryan - Original Message - From: Keith Whaley [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Friday, June 11, 2004 8:26 PM Subject: Re: reagan cortege - no political content! Excellent call, Ryan! Now William can sleep more soundly...and Chris has a proper answer to his question. g keith
Re: *istD Raw Converter
William Robb [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: The Pentax converter is just fine, although a bit of a nasty interface, providing you want to make prints, rather than look at pixels at 72 DPI. Hear hear. -- Mark Roberts Photography and writing www.robertstech.com
RE: reagan cortege
Add another bozoid to the Twit List -Original Message- From: Antonio Aparicio [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Friday, June 11, 2004 3:16 AM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: reagan cortege What about the endless masturbation over the GFM? Not photos and not Pentax discussion. At the end of the day politics is just opinions. Antonio On 11 Jun 2004, at 05:14, Bob Blakely wrote: Pics is one thing. That's what this list is about. Political pontification via keyboard is not photography and is quite another. Regards, Bob... --- No man's life, liberty or property is safe while the legislature is in session. -- Mark Twain From: Antonio Aparicio [EMAIL PROTECTED] Bob, perhaps you should ask the photographer to remove the patriotic political pics too in your usual diplomatic manner. Just to be fair. On 10 Jun 2004, at 23:56, Bob Blakely wrote: Get your political shit of the list, asshole. From: Shawn K. [EMAIL PROTECTED] [political shit]
Re: 645n price check on aisle 2
Stan Halpin [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Or you could buy from a list member who has some quality 645 gear for sale... Yes I know. It's gonna cost me eventually... -- Mark Roberts Photography and writing www.robertstech.com
Re: PAW - Man With Camera at Museum (My first scan)
Hello Shel, Friday, June 11, 2004, 1:39:29 PM, you wrote: SB This afternoon the new scanner arrived. Feeling like a kid on his birthday, SB I immediately set about making some scans. The first thing I learned was SB that it's not a bad idea to read the manual ;-)) This is the first scan SB after so doing. Good news Shel, I hope you will enjoy using it. I'm still saving money to get mine... SB http://home.earthlink.net/~sbelinkoff/images/bill-moma.html It looks like Bill got a nice lens:) Interesting idea with his camera being well lit and his face partly shaded. I also like the raindrops(?) on the glass behind him. Attila
Re: Bayer thingy (was:Re: pentax-discuss-d Digest V04 #549)
Any thoughts on the comment in the dpreview.com *ist D review that Photo Laboratory causes artifacts that look like Bayer interpolation artifacts? The comment there is: coment snipped becaus I don't give a rat's ass about what they say, and neither should you They are a bunch of equiobators. Why the fuck don't we just go out and make pictures with our cameras. Computer jerks look for all the little wonks and say I couldn't make a picture with this crap. Photographers make pictures, and don't give a shit about Bayer interpolations William Robb Right on Bill. My highlights might blow now and again but at least the pic has feeling! Cheers, Cotty ___/\__ || (O) | People, Places, Pastiche ||=|www.macads.co.uk/snaps _
Re: reagan cortege
Cotty wrote: On 11/6/04, TREENA, discombobulated, offered: And for the record, just because you describe yourself in an e-mail doesn't mean that's what you really are. I could tell you I'm 21 and I look like Britney Spears but it wouldn't make it true. but are you and do you? ...sorry ;-) I can only add, Why would you WANT to? g keith whaley Cheers, Cotty
Re: PAW - Man With Camera at Museum (My first scan)
Hi, Attila Bill was using a rather pedestrian Pentax ME Super that day with an M 28/2.8. Those aren't raindrops on the glass behind him. Rather, they are patterns on the stone ledge below him. The shot was taken from above, looking down one floor to Bill, and two floors to the OOF people below. Glad you caught the camera and hands in the light. I wanted to emphasize slightly that Bill's a photographer (as opposed to a snap-shooter) and that his cameras are important to him. Getting the light to highlight the camera seemed as good a way to do that as any. The scanner is a blast. I've been borrowing friends' scanners, which limited how much work could be done. Now working thru the night is possible and enjoyable. I hope you can get your setup soon. Shel Belinkoff [Original Message] From: Boros Attila [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: Shel Belinkoff [EMAIL PROTECTED] Date: 6/11/2004 4:05:29 AM Subject: Re: PAW - Man With Camera at Museum (My first scan) Hello Shel, Friday, June 11, 2004, 1:39:29 PM, you wrote: SB This afternoon the new scanner arrived. Feeling like a kid on his birthday, SB I immediately set about making some scans. The first thing I learned was SB that it's not a bad idea to read the manual ;-)) This is the first scan SB after so doing. Good news Shel, I hope you will enjoy using it. I'm still saving money to get mine... SB http://home.earthlink.net/~sbelinkoff/images/bill-moma.html It looks like Bill got a nice lens:) Interesting idea with his camera being well lit and his face partly shaded. I also like the raindrops(?) on the glass behind him. Attila
Re: Reagan's State Funeral
Thanks for your concern but wasnt actually feeling bad thanks. A. On 11 Jun 2004, at 12:34, cbwaters wrote: Do you feel better now? - Original Message - From: Antonio Aparicio [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Friday, June 11, 2004 5:26 AM Subject: Re: Reagan's State Funeral Thatcher wrecked our pensions, public transport, health and education systems. And we are still paying the price for her short sitedness to this day. Laisse faire economics of the type preached by her and Reagan does not work. Antonio On 11 Jun 2004, at 11:09, Keith Whaley wrote: Maggie Thatcher the rest of your life, too. It's just the way you're built. But, she DID good things for Britain when it needed it most, and caught nothing but flack from all the more liberal MPs and the Socialists in the country. --- Outgoing mail is certified Virus Free. Checked by AVG anti-virus system (http://www.grisoft.com). Version: 6.0.701 / Virus Database: 458 - Release Date: 6/10/2004
Re: inflammatory subjects
Reminding us of Simon King's post sometime back (I may need to archive my PDML folder about now..) about the dyslexic, agnostic insomniac who lay awake in bed all night, wondering if there was a dog.. Cheers, Ryan - Original Message - From: Cotty [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: pentax list [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Friday, June 11, 2004 9:10 PM Subject: Re: inflammatory subjects Uh oh. The god portraits have started - I guess that mean's she's staying !! Ash 1 Tom 0 Boy, what a Freaudian slip - that should read 'dog' portraits! Cheers, Cotty ___/\__ || (O) | People, Places, Pastiche ||=|www.macads.co.uk/snaps _
Re: Public photography was - RE: Future PUG idea?
On Fri, 11 Jun 2004, Cesar Matamoros II wrote: Graffiti in the Stockholm Underground: http://anders.hultman.nu/pickup/DSC04321_(031127)_.JPG Your first photo brings to mind the proposed ban on photography in the New York City subway system. I read where about 100 photographers protested by boarding trains and taking shots of each other. Here the rules are that you can photograph from anywhere where the public is allowed to be (i.e. no walking on the tracks or such) and that you can't use flash because of the risk of disturbing the drivers. There was a ban on tripods before, but that is now changed to the more general rule that you're not allowed to be an obstacle to the other passengers. To do bigger events (movie shots, fashion photography etc) that require areas to be closed off you'd need a parmit of course. anders - http://anders.hultman.nu/ med dagens bild och allt!
Re: inflammatory subjects
http://www.bigdayphoto.com/tom/images/onyx.jpg Black labs are better than yellow! (Ash went out and rescued a dog while I was at GFM, Phyllis wanted a look) tv Uh oh. The god portraits have started - I guess that mean's she's staying !! Ash 1 Tom 0 Boy, what a Freaudian slip - that should read 'dog' portraits! Cheers, Cotty ___/\__ || (O) | People, Places, Pastiche ||=|www.macads.co.uk/snaps _
Re: Finally, my extensive, longer-than-a-Tanya [cannot access Mark Roberts' site]
Arturo Medina-Chavez [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Mark Roberts wrote: ... If you'd like to skip the lengthy, rambling text and just look at the photos, go here: http://www.robertstech.com/temp/pages/0522.htm I really want to see Mark's chronicle and pics, but when using Netscape 7.1, it times out with IE 6, I get The page cannot be displayed I remember this was mentioned before but I don't think a solution was mentioned. Turns out my web host has some IP ranges blocked at *his* firewall, even for web connections, due to Denial of Service (DoS) attacks. If you're in one of these ranges I think you're out of luck. -- Mark Roberts Photography and writing www.robertstech.com
Re: reagan cortege - no political content!
Now I understand more completely, William... Thanks for the education! Weird stuff, politics... keith William Robb wrote: - Original Message - From: Keith Whaley Subject: Re: reagan cortege - no political content! I don't know how that's playing politics as you put it. It is one country showing respect at the funeral of another country's statesman. A proper and acceptable conduct. It wasn't just a state funeral, as you call it, it was a showing of honor toward the President of a neighboring state... and I think it was a nice gesture. Why do you find it embarrassing? Because my God damned Prime Minister is down there on a G-8 summit meeting or some such, and can't be bothered with paying respects to our neighbour's past leader. The whole thing is to be politics. The press here thinks that if Martin shows respect to Reagan, he is cozying up to the Americans, which could be political suicide during an election campaign. The jack ass is playing politics with what should be a cut and dried duty of a leader. Politics should not be involved in the non political aspects of the duties of leadership. I mean, how dare Reagan have the temerity to die during a anadian election William Robb
Re: PAW:This tastes funny
[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: http://www.caughtinmotion.com/paw/taste1.jpg Yep, the facial expression definitely makes this photo work! -- Mark Roberts Photography and writing www.robertstech.com
Re: Finally, my extensive, longer-than-a-Tanya [cannot access Mark Roberts' site]
Love the photos. Great series on the climb. On Jun 11, 2004, at 7:13 AM, Mark Roberts wrote: Arturo Medina-Chavez [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Mark Roberts wrote: ... If you'd like to skip the lengthy, rambling text and just look at the photos, go here: http://www.robertstech.com/temp/pages/0522.htm I really want to see Mark's chronicle and pics, but when using Netscape 7.1, it times out with IE 6, I get The page cannot be displayed I remember this was mentioned before but I don't think a solution was mentioned. Turns out my web host has some IP ranges blocked at *his* firewall, even for web connections, due to Denial of Service (DoS) attacks. If you're in one of these ranges I think you're out of luck. -- Mark Roberts Photography and writing www.robertstech.com
Re: reagan cortege
Most of us who couldn't go loved hearing about GFM . Very few want to listen to your endless rants about subjects unrelated to photography. Antonio Aparicio wrote: What about the endless masturbation over the GFM? Not photos and not Pentax discussion. At the end of the day politics is just opinions.
Re: reagan cortege
I loved hearing about them too - although none had anything whatsoever to do with photography by the way. You quote me out of context - my point was that there are many OT topics on this list and it seems unfair that some are criticised wheras others are not. Antonio On 11 Jun 2004, at 15:04, Daniel J. Matyola wrote: Most of us who couldn't go loved hearing about GFM . Very few want to listen to your endless rants about subjects unrelated to photography. Antonio Aparicio wrote: What about the endless masturbation over the GFM? Not photos and not Pentax discussion. At the end of the day politics is just opinions.
Re: reagan cortege
Ah so now you're confusing Iran and Iraq. Well here's a news flash. Iran was ruled by fundamentalist Moslems and populated primarily by Persians. Iraq by was ruled by fascist secularists and populated mainly by Arabs. (Gee, I guess this is politically incorrect so I want to say right now that I mean no disrespect to either Arabs or Persians, nor wish to imply that either group prefers the Government type with which these particular Arabs and Persians were associated). Notice I'm not commenting on any thing else. Only the facts not the suppositions. Don't bother to respond to this message you've been killfiled. Antonio Aparicio wrote: Iran-Contra scandal anyone? Col. oliver North? Lies, deciet and illegal wars? A. On 11 Jun 2004, at 06:12, Peter J. Alling wrote: No, the French gave him the money, they bought his Oil on very favorable terms and the sold him Exocet missiles and aircraft, which he used to blow up an American Destroyer. There's more than enough blame to go around in power politics. Now please shut the hell up. Shawn K. wrote: No we gave him the money. -Shawn -Original Message- From: Robert Leigh Woerner [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Thursday, June 10, 2004 10:31 PM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: reagan cortege Oh really, we sold Saddam the Soviet T-72 tanks, MiGs, and SAMS??? - Original Message - From: Antonio Aparicio [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Thursday, June 10, 2004 6:29 PM Subject: Re: reagan cortege And one of the most unpopular to the rest of the world, particularly Latin America (remember Honduras and Nicaragua?) and Iraq (where he setup Sadam Hussein with a nice set of weapons to kill his own people), or perhaps Afghanistan (where his policies left Bin Laden and co. setup and nice little training camp after supporting him and the Taleban with weapons and cash to kick out the Russians). Sure he helped put and end to the cold war, but he also played an important role in sewing the seeds of todays problems. Toms pics were nice, pro-reagan patriotic pics - particularly the one of the horse. Antonio On 11 Jun 2004, at 00:18, Bob W wrote: Whether you liked him or not, Reagan was the most popular President in American history and his funeral is an important news event. I thought Tom's photos were excellent, particularly the riderless horse, which I think is as good an example as any I've seen in the press of that image.
Re: GFM My Reactions People Snapshots
You did get several pics of Debbie, however, and she's the more photogenic anyway. Nice selection of shots. Steven Desjardins Department of Chemistry Washington and Lee University Lexington, VA 24450 (540) 458-8873 FAX: (540) 458-8878 [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: PAW - Man With Camera at Museum (My first scan)
Hi Shel, That's an example of good photography for sure. Good composition, good focus/out-of-focus choice, everything works well. And monochrome also works very well for this kind of pictures. BTW, when you'll have occasion greet Bill for me (If he remembers me. If not, just mention AOHC). Thanks. Dario - Original Message - From: Shel Belinkoff [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Friday, June 11, 2004 12:39 PM Subject: PAW - Man With Camera at Museum (My first scan) This afternoon the new scanner arrived. Feeling like a kid on his birthday, I immediately set about making some scans. The first thing I learned was that it's not a bad idea to read the manual ;-)) This is the first scan after so doing. A couple of days ago a friend and I went to the San Francisco Museum of Modern Art to enjoy a couple of photography exhibitions that had been recommended. Being the intrusive and annoying person that I am, I set about photographing some of the patrons in the museum. Hell, we weren't allowed to photograph the art work, so it seemed a good idea to make our own. We saw some old photos which were very warm toned, so here's something of an homage to old photos and to breaking some rules. http://home.earthlink.net/~sbelinkoff/images/bill-moma.html Oh, yeah, about the technical detail:. This photo could have been made with any camera, any appropriate lens, and most any film. Shel Belinkoff
Re: reagan cortege
Peter, Reagan was involved in affairs both in Iran and Iraq fyi. Interesting way of having a discussion by the way - spurt out your opinions then block the replies form the people you are talking too. Sounds like YOU dont want to hear the truth. Regan was not all good. In fact he had quite a lot of bad. This killfile business cracks me up though. Its like because it contains the word kill you feel it is some kind of weapon, where is it is more akin blocking your ears. Not really killing anything other than you own ability to hear what is going on. Doesnt harm anyone except you. You sensitive old sod. Antonio On 11 Jun 2004, at 15:47, Peter J. Alling wrote: Ah so now you're confusing Iran and Iraq. Well here's a news flash. Iran was ruled by fundamentalist Moslems and populated primarily by Persians. Iraq by was ruled by fascist secularists and populated mainly by Arabs. (Gee, I guess this is politically incorrect so I want to say right now that I mean no disrespect to either Arabs or Persians, nor wish to imply that either group prefers the Government type with which these particular Arabs and Persians were associated). Notice I'm not commenting on any thing else. Only the facts not the suppositions. Don't bother to respond to this message you've been killfiled. Antonio Aparicio wrote: Iran-Contra scandal anyone? Col. oliver North? Lies, deciet and illegal wars? A. On 11 Jun 2004, at 06:12, Peter J. Alling wrote: No, the French gave him the money, they bought his Oil on very favorable terms and the sold him Exocet missiles and aircraft, which he used to blow up an American Destroyer. There's more than enough blame to go around in power politics. Now please shut the hell up. Shawn K. wrote: No we gave him the money. -Shawn -Original Message- From: Robert Leigh Woerner [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Thursday, June 10, 2004 10:31 PM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: reagan cortege Oh really, we sold Saddam the Soviet T-72 tanks, MiGs, and SAMS??? - Original Message - From: Antonio Aparicio [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Thursday, June 10, 2004 6:29 PM Subject: Re: reagan cortege And one of the most unpopular to the rest of the world, particularly Latin America (remember Honduras and Nicaragua?) and Iraq (where he setup Sadam Hussein with a nice set of weapons to kill his own people), or perhaps Afghanistan (where his policies left Bin Laden and co. setup and nice little training camp after supporting him and the Taleban with weapons and cash to kick out the Russians). Sure he helped put and end to the cold war, but he also played an important role in sewing the seeds of todays problems. Toms pics were nice, pro-reagan patriotic pics - particularly the one of the horse. Antonio On 11 Jun 2004, at 00:18, Bob W wrote: Whether you liked him or not, Reagan was the most popular President in American history and his funeral is an important news event. I thought Tom's photos were excellent, particularly the riderless horse, which I think is as good an example as any I've seen in the press of that image.
Re: *istD Raw Converter
On Fri, 11 Jun 2004, Mark Dalal wrote: I haven't really been playing close attention to the discussion on converting RAW files from the *istD. The little bit I have read has given me the impression that people aren't totally pleased with the Pentax converter and have been happier with the Photoshop CS converter. Has anyone tried the C1 RAW Workflow Software featured on the http://www.rawworkflow.com/ website? The website indicates that it supports RAW files from the *istD. The LE version is $99. Just lookin' for a little feedback about this piece of software. I've been playing with it. When it works it works well. It has a tendency to crash pretty easily and it also leaks a lot of memory. The only support is through the forums on rawworkflow.com, and no one is answering my queries about crashes, even though I provided pretty good repro steps. If they fix these problems I'll happily plop down my $99 (expensive, but cheaper than Photoshop CS and I can keep using my preferred Picture Window Pro). alex
Re: inflammatory subjects
Freaudian slips are supposed to have some sort of meaning, Cotty you're a strange man :-) Cotty wrote: http://www.bigdayphoto.com/tom/images/onyx.jpg Black labs are better than yellow! (Ash went out and rescued a dog while I was at GFM, Phyllis wanted a look) tv Uh oh. The god portraits have started - I guess that mean's she's staying !! Ash 1 Tom 0 Boy, what a Freaudian slip - that should read 'dog' portraits! Cheers, Cotty ___/\__ || (O) | People, Places, Pastiche ||=|www.macads.co.uk/snaps _
Re: Fw: PAW-Dome Shot
I got the first one. I didn't comment since I was never in the stadium, with or without the shroud. Sorry to say it looks like any number of large black ceilinged venues. I guess I just can't get past the subject matter. cbwaters wrote: didn't take the first time... - Original Message - From: cbwaters [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Thursday, June 10, 2004 10:34 PM Subject: PAW-Dome Shot For the Olympics in 1996 NBC had this black shroud made to block out the Sun in the Georgia Dome so they could broadcast events at night and you wouldn't know they'd taken place in the daytime. The roof in the Dome is translucent so we can play football (American) inside but still feel a little like we're outside... You can see the light peaking in around the seams. Anyway, once in a while, we have a client who drags this thing out of storage, at great expense, and makes it dark in the daytime again. It takes some getting used-to. http://community.webshots.com/photo/93489626/151463772pHMTFk Cory --- Outgoing mail is certified Virus Free. Checked by AVG anti-virus system (http://www.grisoft.com). Version: 6.0.701 / Virus Database: 458 - Release Date: 6/9/2004 --- Outgoing mail is certified Virus Free. Checked by AVG anti-virus system (http://www.grisoft.com). Version: 6.0.701 / Virus Database: 458 - Release Date: 6/10/2004
Gentleman, please ! Was: RE: reagan cortege
And here I thought GFM had everything to do with photography and especially Pentax... the ultimate list member get together ? I for one have been pretty entertained when reading about it (here in Finland). Maybe I will have the opportunity to join one year. Please understand I am not writing this to any single person on our usually very friendly mailing list. Everyone should at least think about this for an odd second before throwing himself/herself into a mindless flame-battle. I am a ham (amateur radio) and we have strict rules of never discussing politics or religion on the air. This has been the rule for tens of years and it works. I wish the people on this list could also go along these lines and remember there are people from dozens of different nationalities on this worldwide list. If every one of them will start writing and yelling their opinions we can say goodbye to on topic discussion for good. Everyone is entitled to their own opition but please could you discuss politics and religion on the more appropriate places (like private e-mail or a dedicated mailing list). If you must discuss it in here, please do it in a civilized way and not act like a bunch of kids who all have had their lollipops stolen 5 seconds ago... And finally, I am sorry if I have upset anyone by saying these things. Thanks for listening and I hope you all have a good weekend and many photo opportunities, Antti-Pekka --- Antti-Pekka Virjonen Computec Oy, Turku Finland Gsm: +358-500-789 753 www.computec.fi * www.estera.fi -Original Message- I loved hearing about them too - although none had anything whatsoever to do with photography by the way. Antonio
Re: PAW - Man With Camera at Museum (My first scan)
I like the composition. The lighting worked out very well, with the slight emphasis on the camera. A man and his machine. Shel Belinkoff wrote: This afternoon the new scanner arrived. Feeling like a kid on his birthday, I immediately set about making some scans. The first thing I learned was that it's not a bad idea to read the manual ;-)) This is the first scan after so doing. A couple of days ago a friend and I went to the San Francisco Museum of Modern Art to enjoy a couple of photography exhibitions that had been recommended. Being the intrusive and annoying person that I am, I set about photographing some of the patrons in the museum. Hell, we weren't allowed to photograph the art work, so it seemed a good idea to make our own. We saw some old photos which were very warm toned, so here's something of an homage to old photos and to breaking some rules. http://home.earthlink.net/~sbelinkoff/images/bill-moma.html Oh, yeah, about the technical detail:. This photo could have been made with any camera, any appropriate lens, and most any film. Shel Belinkoff
Re: Giving up on the FA 28-70/4
On Fri, 11 Jun 2004, John Whittingham wrote: From: alex wetmore [EMAIL PROTECTED] On Thu, 10 Jun 2004, John Whittingham wrote: Can someone explain the Giving up on the FA 28-70/4 subject to me, I have one in need of a clean (fungus) wouldn't want much for it, I'll keep it for spares otherwise. http://www.mail-archive.com/pentax-discuss%40pdml.net/msg185702.html is my original message, which explains it all. alex Just out of curiosity were the two lenses made in Japan? My original sample was. The other one is boxed up and ready to mail, so I can't tell. I think that it was though. Here is a photo of the damage: http://www.phred.org/~alex/pictures/pentax/lens-ghost.jpg The one that I'm sending back is only about half as bad, but constrast and resolution are still reduced. alex
RE: inflammatory subjects
yeah, if you say that, he'll start posting pictures of himself, eek, then we'd be in trouble... ;-) tan. -Original Message- From: Cotty [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Friday, 11 June 2004 9:11 PM To: pentax list Subject: Re: inflammatory subjects http://www.bigdayphoto.com/tom/images/onyx.jpg Black labs are better than yellow! (Ash went out and rescued a dog while I was at GFM, Phyllis wanted a look) tv Uh oh. The god portraits have started - I guess that mean's she's staying !! Ash 1 Tom 0 Boy, what a Freaudian slip - that should read 'dog' portraits! Cheers, Cotty ___/\__ || (O) | People, Places, Pastiche ||=|www.macads.co.uk/snaps _
RE: reagan cortege - no political content!
You can also see the guy following him is wearing a Marine hat. tv -Original Message- From: Keith Whaley [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Friday, June 11, 2004 5:27 AM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: reagan cortege - no political content! Excellent call, Ryan! Now William can sleep more soundly...and Chris has a proper answer to his question. g keith Ryan Lee wrote: Hi Chris, Your post piqued my curiosity, and being obsessive, I embarked on a bit of a tedious quest to match tv's photo: http://www.bigdayphoto.com/reagan/040609-173122-6008.htm with some regiment somewhere. I narrowed it down to the Grenadier, Welsh, Irish, Scots and Coldstream Guards. Interestingly, they're differentiated by button spacings on the tunics: http://www.irishguards.net/IG2.htm However, that was a bit of a dead end, then I found out Canadian Grenadiers wear it too (after all, the hats come from their bears..). But alas, the uniform did not match. Then I chanced upon an Encarta definition which mentioned drum majors too. Kept checking and definitive success: http://www.marineband.usmc.mil/abt_band_uni_drum.html Cheers, Ryan PS. Hilarious fact: Regarding the difficulties encountered while searching for a synthetic alternative to bearskin, They were also subject to static electricity, which was rather embarrassing when they passed under (electricity) pylons. http://www.news-star.com/stories/081497/world2.html - Original Message - From: Chris Stoddart [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Friday, June 11, 2004 5:46 PM Subject: Re: reagan cortege - no political content! I thought Tom's pictures were interesting and important regardless of anything political - all the funeral proceedings have had at least some exposure in the UK media. I know there are some knowlegeable people on this list (ahem), so this picture of Tom's here: http://www.bigdayphoto.com/reagan/040609-173122-6008.htm shows a soldier in a bearskin hat. Do American regiments wear these? Which ones, does anyone know? I thought they were a British-only phenomenon? (cue cliche shot of London No356, Guardsman standing outside Buck Palace). Chris
Re: snaps from GFM and a couple of comments (obligatory Pentax content)
Nice work Mark. Debbie and I got so close to McRae peak and then my acrophobia kicked in. The funny part is that I like climbing up get realy unnerved when I actually get to the top.
Re: Gentleman, please ! Was: RE: reagan cortege
Antti, the GFM may have been a photo meet, but not many of the posts here had anything to do with photography or pentax. As to the rest of your comments I think that the list should not censor peoples reactions to photos that are posted for feedback. In this instance the photos were of a politician, a controversial one, and the comments have reflected that. If someone posts a religious picture then you will no doubt get reaction to that too. Remeber, the photographer is never outside of what he/she photographs., A witnness is part of the scene. And good photos like Toms evoke reactions. I do agree with your comments about the languaged being used by a number of the posters though, particularly Bob S and William Robb, although they are not alone. There is no need for it. Antonio On 11 Jun 2004, at 16:11, Antti-Pekka Virjonen wrote: And here I thought GFM had everything to do with photography and especially Pentax... the ultimate list member get together ? I for one have been pretty entertained when reading about it (here in Finland). Maybe I will have the opportunity to join one year. Please understand I am not writing this to any single person on our usually very friendly mailing list. Everyone should at least think about this for an odd second before throwing himself/herself into a mindless flame-battle. I am a ham (amateur radio) and we have strict rules of never discussing politics or religion on the air. This has been the rule for tens of years and it works. I wish the people on this list could also go along these lines and remember there are people from dozens of different nationalities on this worldwide list. If every one of them will start writing and yelling their opinions we can say goodbye to on topic discussion for good. Everyone is entitled to their own opition but please could you discuss politics and religion on the more appropriate places (like private e-mail or a dedicated mailing list). If you must discuss it in here, please do it in a civilized way and not act like a bunch of kids who all have had their lollipops stolen 5 seconds ago... And finally, I am sorry if I have upset anyone by saying these things. Thanks for listening and I hope you all have a good weekend and many photo opportunities, Antti-Pekka --- Antti-Pekka Virjonen Computec Oy, Turku Finland Gsm: +358-500-789 753 www.computec.fi * www.estera.fi -Original Message- I loved hearing about them too - although none had anything whatsoever to do with photography by the way. Antonio
Re: reagan cortege - no political content!
In a message dated 6/11/2004 7:18:31 AM Pacific Standard Time, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: You can also see the guy following him is wearing a Marine hat. tv --- Very nice photos, tv! I especially like all the leg shots and the kid shots. You really captured the event. Marnie aka Doe
Re: PAW: Venus - of course
Very original, very striking, and very well done. I love it! [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: ..passing by my living room... http://www.photo.net/photodb/photo?photo_id=2435150size=lg
Re: Gentleman, please ! Was: RE: reagan cortege
[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Hey Gonz, Talk to the flamers, not me. When people start making claims about Reagan being a good president, etc. etc. then it is only normal that those who disagree with that statement will voice their opinions too. For what its worth, I was saddened to hear of his death too, even though I didnt agree with his policies. No, this flame war was started by an individual that had to add political flame-baiting to simple pictures of an event. You know, it is possible to either refrain from political commentary, or keep the commentary to the photos. As I mentioned, this was not a hated dictator that died. Controversial maybe, but not to the level that should provoke the unecessary rant that it did. Political flame-baiting does not belong in a forum such as this, it merely provokes long angry threads such as this one, and have no positive outcomes that I know of. On the subject of the GFM (supposedly named due to the age of the atendees? [joke]), I was/am fine with the GFM chatter, even if it didnt have anything to do with Pentax, which it didnt. Was just lots of back scratching. Maybee the event did but the chatter on this board didnt. In any event I dont think the atendees have any special powers or priveledges on this list regardless of how big they are, if that is what you are suggesting. Or do they? Well, one of them sets up/hosts the PUG website, another maintains this very list. So I guess at least one of them has the special power to take you (or me) off this list. ;) But I wasn't making any reference to their importance or special powers/priveledges. I merely said that they are a big part of the list, i.e. they contribute alot, in photographic wisdom, wit, helping newbies, etc. There are many other big contributors to this list that were not able to attend GFM. What is going on with you anyway? You seem to bitch about topics not being very related to Pentax, yet you embroil yourself in many flame-war topics such as the stupid Windows OS war you got so worked up about, now this. If you are so into Pentax, then please post some on topic threads and redeem what little you have left of yourself in this mail list. From what I hear, many people have automatically deleted your postings already, that didn't have to happen. BTW, how old are you anyway? I have a theory that age has something to do with the probability of being at odds with members of this mail list. Many of the members here are older, and some of the contributors that get embroiled in these flame wars seem to be socially awkward, possibly due to age/immaturity? There are exceptions of course, I know of a few contributors here that although young, have a knack for social interaction and get along fine here. The internet/email/lists seems to make it easy to get to the point of I'm 7'1, 350 pounds and I could kick your butt, asshole, whereas in real face-to-face settings people in general would require alot more to get to that level. A. On 11 Jun 2004, at 16:45, Gonz wrote: Reagan was a President. He is dead. He was not a dictator, so his death should not provoke that level of response. The country is mourning his death, much as it did when Kennedy and Johnson died, who were of opposite political parties. These pictures were not of Reagan in a political rally or the Republican Convention, which I agree could provoke a political flame war. I was saddened and mourned for the death of all three presidents that I mentioned, so that makes me a right wing bigot as one poster has declared just because myself and others asked him to keep political discussion and vitriol out of this list? In addition, many of us who did not attend GFM and really wanted to go, wanted to hear as much as possible about the get together, it being one of the largest Pentax afficionado gatherings in recent history. Just because they are not talking about photography and cameras does not make it inappropriate for the Pentax discussion mailing list. They ARE a big part of the PENTAX discussion list, in case you haven't noticed. [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Antti, the GFM may have been a photo meet, but not many of the posts here had anything to do with photography or pentax. As to the rest of your comments I think that the list should not censor peoples reactions to photos that are posted for feedback. In this instance the photos were of a politician, a controversial one, and the comments have reflected that. If someone posts a religious picture then you will no doubt get reaction to that too. Remeber, the photographer is never outside of what he/she photographs., A witnness is part of the scene. And good photos like Toms evoke reactions. I do agree with your comments about the languaged being used by a number of the posters though, particularly Bob S and William Robb, although they are not alone. There is no need for it. Antonio On 11 Jun 2004, at 16:11,
Re: reagan cortege - no political content!
Semper fi! He is indeed a USMC drum major. tom wrote: You can also see the guy following him is wearing a Marine hat. tv -Original Message- From: Keith Whaley [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Friday, June 11, 2004 5:27 AM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: reagan cortege - no political content! Excellent call, Ryan! Now William can sleep more soundly...and Chris has a proper answer to his question. g keith Ryan Lee wrote: Hi Chris, Your post piqued my curiosity, and being obsessive, I embarked on a bit of a tedious quest to match tv's photo: http://www.bigdayphoto.com/reagan/040609-173122-6008.htm with some regiment somewhere. I narrowed it down to the Grenadier, Welsh, Irish, Scots and Coldstream Guards. Interestingly, they're differentiated by button spacings on the tunics: http://www.irishguards.net/IG2.htm However, that was a bit of a dead end, then I found out Canadian Grenadiers wear it too (after all, the hats come from their bears..). But alas, the uniform did not match. Then I chanced upon an Encarta definition which mentioned drum majors too. Kept checking and definitive success: http://www.marineband.usmc.mil/abt_band_uni_drum.html Cheers, Ryan
Re: reagan cortege
[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I doubt it, probably not and I don't think so. I don't know, I have my suspicions, but you may be right. keith Gonz wrote: TMP wrote: well, i'm a woman, and i can't say you are doing much for me right now... tan. Tan, this Shawn person actually is a woman. With a middle name like Taimana, it has to be woman right? I mean isn't Sean the male version of this name, not Shawn, which like Dawn, is feminine? [...]
Re: half of my posts
aren't showing up in the digests or the archive. ? Doug, a number of us are having this problem. Joe
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My past few messages seems to have gone nowhere. Wonder if this innocent one can slip through. Yefei
Re: reagan cortege - no political content!
Please tell us the tail. . . .er, tale. Stephen Moore wrote: A couple of thinlots right up there among the best in capturing the little details that limn the humanity of the scene. (I've got a funny story about the caparisoned horse that appeared in the JFK funeral, but that's for another time, preferably in the company of copious quantities of beer.)
Re: inflammatory subjects
On 11/6/04, LATER ALLINGATOR, discombobulated, offered: Freaudian slips are supposed to have some sort of meaning, Cotty you're a strange man :-) Believe me, some people think dogs *are* gods - I know - my first girlfriend was an obedience champ (the trainer, not the dog ;-) Cheers, Cotty ___/\__ || (O) | People, Places, Pastiche ||=|www.macads.co.uk/snaps _
RE: reagan cortege - no political content!
While we're on the subject...you can see this guy - http://www.bigdayphoto.com/reagan/040609-175432-6051.htm Is a navy guy who passed out. 2 Navy guys in front of me passed out while standiing at attention waiting for the caisson. Apparently people were passing out left and right. Well, some secret service people started handing out water - http://www.bigdayphoto.com/reagan/040609-181626-6077.htm If you looked up and down the route you could see Air Force and Navy guys drinking it up, but the marines wouldn't even look at him, and none of them passed out. They got a few cheers when they matched off. tv -Original Message- From: Daniel J. Matyola [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Friday, June 11, 2004 10:53 AM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: reagan cortege - no political content! Semper fi! He is indeed a USMC drum major. tom wrote: You can also see the guy following him is wearing a Marine hat. tv -Original Message- From: Keith Whaley [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Friday, June 11, 2004 5:27 AM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: reagan cortege - no political content! Excellent call, Ryan! Now William can sleep more soundly...and Chris has a proper answer to his question. g keith Ryan Lee wrote: Hi Chris, Your post piqued my curiosity, and being obsessive, I embarked on a bit of a tedious quest to match tv's photo: http://www.bigdayphoto.com/reagan/040609-173122-6008.htm with some regiment somewhere. I narrowed it down to the Grenadier, Welsh, Irish, Scots and Coldstream Guards. Interestingly, they're differentiated by button spacings on the tunics: http://www.irishguards.net/IG2.htm However, that was a bit of a dead end, then I found out Canadian Grenadiers wear it too (after all, the hats come from their bears..). But alas, the uniform did not match. Then I chanced upon an Encarta definition which mentioned drum majors too. Kept checking and definitive success: http://www.marineband.usmc.mil/abt_band_uni_drum.html Cheers, Ryan
Re: Gentleman, please ! Was: RE: reagan cortege
Gonz, flame war? I think you are going a bit over the top mate. I have said nothing inflamatory, just my opinions fairly conservatively put. You may not agree with them, that is your choice, but to taint them as some lesser form of vermin seems a bit extreme. I dont like a lot of what you have to say either, but would rather express my opinions and arguments than try and silence you, like you seem to try to silence others. Live and let live. Its just all talk. Antonio On 11 Jun 2004, at 17:51, Gonz wrote: [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Hey Gonz, Talk to the flamers, not me. When people start making claims about Reagan being a good president, etc. etc. then it is only normal that those who disagree with that statement will voice their opinions too. For what its worth, I was saddened to hear of his death too, even though I didnt agree with his policies. No, this flame war was started by an individual that had to add political flame-baiting to simple pictures of an event. You know, it is possible to either refrain from political commentary, or keep the commentary to the photos. As I mentioned, this was not a hated dictator that died. Controversial maybe, but not to the level that should provoke the unecessary rant that it did. Political flame-baiting does not belong in a forum such as this, it merely provokes long angry threads such as this one, and have no positive outcomes that I know of. On the subject of the GFM (supposedly named due to the age of the atendees? [joke]), I was/am fine with the GFM chatter, even if it didnt have anything to do with Pentax, which it didnt. Was just lots of back scratching. Maybee the event did but the chatter on this board didnt. In any event I dont think the atendees have any special powers or priveledges on this list regardless of how big they are, if that is what you are suggesting. Or do they? Well, one of them sets up/hosts the PUG website, another maintains this very list. So I guess at least one of them has the special power to take you (or me) off this list. ;) But I wasn't making any reference to their importance or special powers/priveledges. I merely said that they are a big part of the list, i.e. they contribute alot, in photographic wisdom, wit, helping newbies, etc. There are many other big contributors to this list that were not able to attend GFM. What is going on with you anyway? You seem to bitch about topics not being very related to Pentax, yet you embroil yourself in many flame-war topics such as the stupid Windows OS war you got so worked up about, now this. If you are so into Pentax, then please post some on topic threads and redeem what little you have left of yourself in this mail list. From what I hear, many people have automatically deleted your postings already, that didn't have to happen. BTW, how old are you anyway? I have a theory that age has something to do with the probability of being at odds with members of this mail list. Many of the members here are older, and some of the contributors that get embroiled in these flame wars seem to be socially awkward, possibly due to age/immaturity? There are exceptions of course, I know of a few contributors here that although young, have a knack for social interaction and get along fine here. The internet/email/lists seems to make it easy to get to the point of I'm 7'1, 350 pounds and I could kick your butt, asshole, whereas in real face-to-face settings people in general would require alot more to get to that level. A. On 11 Jun 2004, at 16:45, Gonz wrote: Reagan was a President. He is dead. He was not a dictator, so his death should not provoke that level of response. The country is mourning his death, much as it did when Kennedy and Johnson died, who were of opposite political parties. These pictures were not of Reagan in a political rally or the Republican Convention, which I agree could provoke a political flame war. I was saddened and mourned for the death of all three presidents that I mentioned, so that makes me a right wing bigot as one poster has declared just because myself and others asked him to keep political discussion and vitriol out of this list? In addition, many of us who did not attend GFM and really wanted to go, wanted to hear as much as possible about the get together, it being one of the largest Pentax afficionado gatherings in recent history. Just because they are not talking about photography and cameras does not make it inappropriate for the Pentax discussion mailing list. They ARE a big part of the PENTAX discussion list, in case you haven't noticed. [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Antti, the GFM may have been a photo meet, but not many of the posts here had anything to do with photography or pentax. As to the rest of your comments I think that the list should not censor peoples reactions to photos that are posted for feedback. In this instance the photos were of a politician, a
New Little Toys (definitely On Topic...)
Hi everybody, It seems I cannot stop buying new pieces of equipment as soon as the opportunity arise... I had the chance to buy a couple of demo lenses from the local importer at a more than reasonable price. One of the lenses is the FA 35/2 AL, a lens I was more than once ready to buy new, but *luckily* never did. The other one instead, an FA 24-90/3.5-4.5 IF AL, I didn't even consider a lot before. Now that I own one, well... ...I'm asking myself why I insisted carrying around the weight of the powerzoom 28-105 instead of buying one of the 24-90 before... Sure, the 28-105 is built like a tank, while the 24-90 is quite poor under this respect but those are not lenses I tend to use in dangerous environments anyway. And even that half stop gained is nice. The only thing that I find odd about the 24-90 is that its resting position (completely retracted, that is) coincides with the shorter focal lenght (while all the other FA lenses I know rest in the middle of the zooming range - around 50mm for the 28-70 AL, around 55mm the 28-105 and around 28mm the 20-35). Oh well, I can live with that. Hope the results on film will be up to the expectations. Just wanted to add a bit of Pentax content to the list... :-) Ciao, Gianfranco = _ __ Do you Yahoo!? Friends. Fun. Try the all-new Yahoo! Messenger. http://messenger.yahoo.com/
Re: mz 3/5n limited lenses
http://www.altavista.com/image/results?q=pentax+mz3mik=photomik=graphicmi p=allmis=allmiwxh=allstq=0 Dario Bonazza - Original Message - From: Ryan Lee [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: PDML [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Friday, June 11, 2004 5:33 PM Subject: mz 3/5n limited lenses Was just scouring the net for pictures of a silver 3 or 5n with the limited lenses attached. Only managed to find a picture of a black 3 with a 43 limited. Anyone with a link? Regards, Ryan
Re: mz 3/5n limited lenses
Try: http://www1.ocn.ne.jp/~y.kita/kizai/camera02.jpg --Mike
Re: reagan cortege
Hi, Friday, June 11, 2004, 7:04:46 AM, Shawn wrote: I've seen you Bob, you're ugly, are you married, that would be a long shot, proof that where there's one ugly dumbfuck, there's another ugly dumbfuck that loves him... I guess you have the better of me Shawn. Whereas you're handsome and attractive to women, I'm ugly and repel them. Whereas you're tough and strong and get into drunken fights at the drop of a hat, I don't get drunk much and I haven't been in a fight for about 20 years. Whereas you admittedly hate people and don't give a shit, I kind of like people and hope to get on with them. Whereas you're proud to be an aggressive bully, I'm kind of laid back and try to defend people against bullies - in fact, that's the only reason I've ever been in a fight at all. You could probably beat me up really easily because I'm overweight and unfit as well as ugly. Hell, you're even a couple of inches taller than I am, apparently. I guess that all makes you a better person, and more of a man. Congratulations - it must make you feel really good. You can go back to dragging branches around the forest floor now. -- Cheers, Bob
OT: Bearskins (Re: reagan cortege - no political content!
Hi, PS. Hilarious fact: Regarding the difficulties encountered while searching for a synthetic alternative to bearskin, They were also subject to static electricity, which was rather embarrassing when they passed under (electricity) pylons. http://www.news-star.com/stories/081497/world2.html Apparently the British Army aren't allowed to kill bears any more for their hats, and have to use roadkill. -- Cheers, Bob
Re: Finally, my extensive, longer-than-a-Tanya [cannot access Mark Roberts' site]
Mark Roberts wrote: Turns out my web host has some IP ranges blocked at *his* firewall, even for web connections, due to Denial of Service (DoS) attacks. If you're in one of these ranges I think you're out of luck. Mark, THX for the explanation. Arturo ##
pics
For those on the list that actually like to look at pictures and discuss photography, I have culled down my GFM pictures to this gallery. I present them for your enjoyment (or not). I'm sure they are not perfect, but I find them at least pleasant to look at. non-politcal comments welcome www.daytonphoto.com/Galleries/gfm/index.htm -- Best regards, Bruce
FS Fryday
1. Pentax-M 135/3.5 Excellent condition, caps. $35 2. Commercial Komura 210/5.6 #1 shutter (4x5) $150. Covers 5x7 so provides good movements. 1/8 to 1sec are out. Glass is clean and clear. 3. Ilex Paragon 7 1/2 (191mm) in Ilex #3 (4x5) $150. Shutter works beautifully and lens is clean and clear. PayPal preferred Collin Sent via the WebMail system at mail.safe-t.net
Re: pics
Quite pleasant to look at indeed! Thank you very much for posting them. Bruce Dayton wrote: For those on the list that actually like to look at pictures and discuss photography, I have culled down my GFM pictures to this gallery. I present them for your enjoyment (or not). I'm sure they are not perfect, but I find them at least pleasant to look at. non-politcal comments welcome www.daytonphoto.com/Galleries/gfm/index.htm
RE: PAW: Venus - of course
Hi Dag, Is that curvy thingy on the floor your fingernail?:-) Yefei From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: PAW: Venus - of course Message-Id: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit ..passing by my living room... http://www.photo.net/photodb/photo?photo_id=2435150size=lg DagT
Re: inflammatory subjects
Reminding us of Simon King's post sometime back (I may need to archive my PDML folder about now..) about the dyslexic, agnostic insomniac who lay awake in bed all night, wondering if there was a dog.. Cheers, Ryan Then there was the dyslexic devil-worshipper who sold his soul to Santa ...
RE: reagan cortege
Bob, there is this old saying, An eye for an eye leaves the world blind. I'm pretty much sick of this insult fest, so I'm going to put an end to it now by not returning the favor. I've had a few glasses of wine interspersed over the past two years, so I'm not a drunk as you imply, I've never been in a fight in a bar. And I've never started the fight, never. I just don't take shit, and people like to give me shit so there you have it. There was a point in my life where I realized some people only understand one thing, getting punched upside the head... I once got attacked by a group of black kids when I was in college because I dared to walk on the sidewalk where they were standing... Maybe I should show them respect and cross the street, you tell me, what should I have done? The funny thing is, I didn't want to cross the street, because I thought I'm going to show them how we can share the sidewalk, me being white and all... You know, some white-bred people will run at the site of a black man, I just wanted to give them the dignity of a normal human passing on the sidewalk. But I guess that was just an offence to them, me thinking we were equal. Funny how those things flip-flop isn't it?? The point is everyone has their own twisted view of the world man, everyone is twisted in some way. As for your discussion on apes, we are all apes, even Einstein was an unmitigated primitive ape-man who fucked and married his first cousin. Not many people are aware of what a disgusting private life he led. -Shawn -Original Message- From: Bob W [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Friday, June 11, 2004 1:32 PM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: reagan cortege Hi, Friday, June 11, 2004, 7:04:46 AM, Shawn wrote: I've seen you Bob, you're ugly, are you married, that would be a long shot, proof that where there's one ugly dumbfuck, there's another ugly dumbfuck that loves him... I guess you have the better of me Shawn. Whereas you're handsome and attractive to women, I'm ugly and repel them. Whereas you're tough and strong and get into drunken fights at the drop of a hat, I don't get drunk much and I haven't been in a fight for about 20 years. Whereas you admittedly hate people and don't give a shit, I kind of like people and hope to get on with them. Whereas you're proud to be an aggressive bully, I'm kind of laid back and try to defend people against bullies - in fact, that's the only reason I've ever been in a fight at all. You could probably beat me up really easily because I'm overweight and unfit as well as ugly. Hell, you're even a couple of inches taller than I am, apparently. I guess that all makes you a better person, and more of a man. Congratulations - it must make you feel really good. You can go back to dragging branches around the forest floor now. -- Cheers, Bob
Re: reagan cortege
My g... how pathetic. It reminds me of some really bad B-movie. This isn´t barbaric. The barbarians had a civilization, but you don´t. DagT På 11. jun. 2004 kl. 03.28 skrev Shawn K.: You'd break your leg kicking my hard ass tough guy. I've fought tougher than you before, and would welcome a good scuffle, I always did feel good after a fight, mainly because I won, and because it's in my blood to fight. It's notable that you say all that you said like you're just the toughest mofo on earth, then you go and ignore me. Pretty weak William Robb. My right hand has met more jaws than you can probably count, and it has the broken bones and scars to prove it... And before you go commenting on what a barbarian I am, remember that I have a computer degree, a bachelors for that matter, so even us barbarians can learn to use fancy shmancy computers. -Shawn
Re: inflammatory subjects
Hey, wait a minute, what does this have to do with dogs? John Francis wrote: Reminding us of Simon King's post sometime back (I may need to archive my PDML folder about now..) about the dyslexic, agnostic insomniac who lay awake in bed all night, wondering if there was a dog.. Cheers, Ryan Then there was the dyslexic devil-worshipper who sold his soul to Santa ...
RE: reagan cortege
Hi DagT Thanks for the comments. -Shawn -Original Message- From: Dag T [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Friday, June 11, 2004 2:04 PM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: reagan cortege My g... how pathetic. It reminds me of some really bad B-movie. This isn´t barbaric. The barbarians had a civilization, but you don´t. DagT
Re: pics
These are really nice, did I mention that I hate you yet? Bruce Dayton wrote: For those on the list that actually like to look at pictures and discuss photography, I have culled down my GFM pictures to this gallery. I present them for your enjoyment (or not). I'm sure they are not perfect, but I find them at least pleasant to look at. non-politcal comments welcome www.daytonphoto.com/Galleries/gfm/index.htm
Re: pics
I don't believe that I have been put on anyone's hate list yet for taking a good pic. I'll certainly take that as a comliment. Thanks! -- Best regards, Bruce Friday, June 11, 2004, 11:14:44 AM, you wrote: PJA These are really nice, did I mention that I hate you yet? PJA Bruce Dayton wrote: For those on the list that actually like to look at pictures and discuss photography, I have culled down my GFM pictures to this gallery. I present them for your enjoyment (or not). I'm sure they are not perfect, but I find them at least pleasant to look at. non-politcal comments welcome www.daytonphoto.com/Galleries/gfm/index.htm
Re: reagan cortege
not hearing your opinion isn't going to hurt him arnie - Original Message - From: Antonio Aparicio [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Friday, June 11, 2004 9:52 AM Subject: Re: reagan cortege Peter, Reagan was involved in affairs both in Iran and Iraq fyi. Interesting way of having a discussion by the way - spurt out your opinions then block the replies form the people you are talking too. Sounds like YOU dont want to hear the truth. Regan was not all good. In fact he had quite a lot of bad. This killfile business cracks me up though. Its like because it contains the word kill you feel it is some kind of weapon, where is it is more akin blocking your ears. Not really killing anything other than you own ability to hear what is going on. Doesnt harm anyone except you. You sensitive old sod. Antonio On 11 Jun 2004, at 15:47, Peter J. Alling wrote: Ah so now you're confusing Iran and Iraq. Well here's a news flash. Iran was ruled by fundamentalist Moslems and populated primarily by Persians. Iraq by was ruled by fascist secularists and populated mainly by Arabs. (Gee, I guess this is politically incorrect so I want to say right now that I mean no disrespect to either Arabs or Persians, nor wish to imply that either group prefers the Government type with which these particular Arabs and Persians were associated). Notice I'm not commenting on any thing else. Only the facts not the suppositions. Don't bother to respond to this message you've been killfiled. Antonio Aparicio wrote: Iran-Contra scandal anyone? Col. oliver North? Lies, deciet and illegal wars? A. On 11 Jun 2004, at 06:12, Peter J. Alling wrote: No, the French gave him the money, they bought his Oil on very favorable terms and the sold him Exocet missiles and aircraft, which he used to blow up an American Destroyer. There's more than enough blame to go around in power politics. Now please shut the hell up. Shawn K. wrote: No we gave him the money. -Shawn -Original Message- From: Robert Leigh Woerner [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Thursday, June 10, 2004 10:31 PM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: reagan cortege Oh really, we sold Saddam the Soviet T-72 tanks, MiGs, and SAMS??? - Original Message - From: Antonio Aparicio [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Thursday, June 10, 2004 6:29 PM Subject: Re: reagan cortege And one of the most unpopular to the rest of the world, particularly Latin America (remember Honduras and Nicaragua?) and Iraq (where he setup Sadam Hussein with a nice set of weapons to kill his own people), or perhaps Afghanistan (where his policies left Bin Laden and co. setup and nice little training camp after supporting him and the Taleban with weapons and cash to kick out the Russians). Sure he helped put and end to the cold war, but he also played an important role in sewing the seeds of todays problems. Toms pics were nice, pro-reagan patriotic pics - particularly the one of the horse. Antonio On 11 Jun 2004, at 00:18, Bob W wrote: Whether you liked him or not, Reagan was the most popular President in American history and his funeral is an important news event. I thought Tom's photos were excellent, particularly the riderless horse, which I think is as good an example as any I've seen in the press of that image.
Re: inflammatory subjects
Don't take the name of dog in vein! Peter J. Alling wrote: Hey, wait a minute, what does this have to do with dogs?
Re: pics
They are great pics. I was showing my wife the pics and she commented that I *WILL* be going to GFM next year, she really liked what she saw. Wow, I didn't even have to bribe her. Then she saw the pic with the mountain lion and changed her mind. LOL. [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: For those on the list that actually like to look at pictures and discuss photography, I have culled down my GFM pictures to this gallery. I present them for your enjoyment (or not). I'm sure they are not perfect, but I find them at least pleasant to look at. non-politcal comments welcome www.daytonphoto.com/Galleries/gfm/index.htm
Re: pics
Good lord, Bruce. You actually took nature photos during the Nature Photo Weekend? We may have to drum you off the list for that. Let me check the by-laws. GRIN (for the humor impaired)! I like the cougar shot. -- Bruce Dayton wrote: For those on the list that actually like to look at pictures and discuss photography, I have culled down my GFM pictures to this gallery. I present them for your enjoyment (or not). I'm sure they are not perfect, but I find them at least pleasant to look at. non-politcal comments welcome www.daytonphoto.com/Galleries/gfm/index.htm -- graywolf http://graywolfphoto.com/graywolf.html
RE: What'd I say
A few years ago when word came that Ray Charles would come to a nearby city to perform, I bought the ticket right away (50 bucks!) and went to see him perform in top form, and snapped some shots. At the time I thought if I don't go to a concert of his now, I might never see him in person again. Well sadly it turned out to be true. Guess I need to hurry to B.B. King and Sonny Rollins' concerts! Yefei From: =?ISO-8859-1?Q?Michel_Carr=E8re-G=E9e?= [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: Pdml [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Wath'd I say Ray Charles Ronbinson is dead ! 8=((
Re: pics
I was feeling kind of bad that I took nature photos instead of all the shots back and forth of the gang. Hopefully it will help others to know that the location was really beautiful. Thanks, Bruce Friday, June 11, 2004, 11:29:56 AM, you wrote: g Good lord, Bruce. You actually took nature photos during the Nature Photo g Weekend? We may have to drum you off the list for that. Let me check the g by-laws. GRIN (for the humor impaired)! g I like the cougar shot. g -- g Bruce Dayton wrote: For those on the list that actually like to look at pictures and discuss photography, I have culled down my GFM pictures to this gallery. I present them for your enjoyment (or not). I'm sure they are not perfect, but I find them at least pleasant to look at. non-politcal comments welcome www.daytonphoto.com/Galleries/gfm/index.htm
Re: pics
For those on the list that actually like to look at pictures and discuss photography, I have culled down my GFM pictures to this gallery. I present them for your enjoyment (or not). I'm sure they are not perfect, but I find them at least pleasant to look at. non-politcal comments welcome www.daytonphoto.com/Galleries/gfm/index.htm Beautiful, Bruce. Well done. Cheers, Cotty ___/\__ || (O) | People, Places, Pastiche ||=|www.macads.co.uk/snaps _
Re: pics
Thanks. It is a beautiful setting and the company was great, too. Can't top that. I am certainly going to make every attempt to get back next year. Fear not the lion - the Habitat is very safe for us humans - unless you are lucky, you need a really long lens to get any shots of the lions. -- Best regards, Bruce Friday, June 11, 2004, 11:31:52 AM, you wrote: G They are great pics. G I was showing my wife the pics and she commented that I *WILL* be going G to GFM next year, she really liked what she saw. Wow, I didn't even G have to bribe her. Then she saw the pic with the mountain lion and G changed her mind. LOL. G [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: For those on the list that actually like to look at pictures and discuss photography, I have culled down my GFM pictures to this gallery. I present them for your enjoyment (or not). I'm sure they are not perfect, but I find them at least pleasant to look at. non-politcal comments welcome www.daytonphoto.com/Galleries/gfm/index.htm
Re: Takumar 135/2.5 (Bayonet) any good?
Antonio Aparicio wrote: The Takumar 135/2.5 bayonet is a dog - best avoided, A. By whose word? Are you testifying directly and personally that it's not a worthy lens? How do you know? Have you personally tested one? Or are you parroting someone else's opinion? keith whaley On 11 Jun 2004, at 23:37, Jon M wrote: http://kmp.bdimitrov.de/lenses/primes/_non-SMC/tak_135f2.5.html A local shop has one in his inventory, and is asking $50 for it. There are no reviews of it on Stan's page. I was wondering if any of y'all have any experience with this lens, or any insight as to whether it'd be a decent addition to my small but growing collection of K-mount goodies? Thanks. -Jon Myers.
Re: Takumar 135/2.5 (Bayonet) any good?
is asking $50 for it The Takumar 135/2.5 bayonet is a dog - best avoided, Well, I would tend to disagree with the canine qualities. It's not the best Pentax 135 out there, but I wouldn't exactly call it a dog, either. Still, I do think that $50 might be a bit too high. Fred
Re: Developing tanks (yes, it's not digital!)
Hi, Frantisek Vlcek wrote: I would like to ask those who used a big processor or lab or something similar. I am using a Jobo, and am searching for something that would kill the algae which invariably form in the waterbath. Chloride is, according to Jobo, dangerous to the plastics or temperature sensors or whatever. That would probably include other Halides like Iodine. Otherwise, I would use chloride cleaner. Although I am not much content with them, being, according to some sources, very environment-unfriendly. But let's not get into politics discussion ;-) One thing that would work is regularly changing the water. This would also help in reducing the build up of solids coming out of solution as the water evaporates and is topped up. Otherwise, you could try dilute solutions of peroxides. Another option would be to build a stainless steel tank and transfer the Jobo parts to it. mike
Re: Gentleman, please ! Was: RE: reagan cortege
Hi, graywolf wrote: I only killfile people who are consistently abusive to others on the list. That has been mercifully few, but there seems to be something in the air this spring. The saps are rising? m
Re: Giving up on the FA 28-70/4
I believe glass separation has nothing to do with the manufacturing origin, but the fact that those lenses were designed and manufactured to be cheap, the FA28-70/4 in this case. Some even had aperture blades not working properly. There are reason why some lenses were selling so cheap. Regards, Alan Chan http://www.pbase.com/wlachan It was just a thought, I believe some are manufactured elsewhere than Japan. The sample looks pretty bad, makes me wonder about quality in modern lenses, I have lenses 30 years old never a problem working fine. _ Tired of spam? Get advanced junk mail protection with MSN Premium http://join.msn.com/?pgmarket=en-capage=byoa/premxAPID=1994DI=1034SU=http://hotmail.com/encaHL=Market_MSNIS_Taglines
Re: Takumar 135/2.5 (Bayonet) any good?
Aha, the opinion police are back! I've owned it, it was a dog, I got rid of it. My opinion. Antonio On 11 Jun 2004, at 23:58, Keith Whaley wrote: Antonio Aparicio wrote: The Takumar 135/2.5 bayonet is a dog - best avoided, A. By whose word? Are you testifying directly and personally that it's not a worthy lens? How do you know? Have you personally tested one? Or are you parroting someone else's opinion? keith whaley On 11 Jun 2004, at 23:37, Jon M wrote: http://kmp.bdimitrov.de/lenses/primes/_non-SMC/tak_135f2.5.html A local shop has one in his inventory, and is asking $50 for it. There are no reviews of it on Stan's page. I was wondering if any of y'all have any experience with this lens, or any insight as to whether it'd be a decent addition to my small but growing collection of K-mount goodies? Thanks. -Jon Myers.
Re: Giving up on the FA 28-70/4
I'm not a huge believer that the country of manufacture has a big difference with quality of the object. I own a VW TDI car and some members of tdiclub.com (the forums for said cars) claim that the German made ones are better than the ones made elsewhere. My wife's Jetta Wagon TDI is German and my Golf was made in Brazil and my older Jetta was made in Mexico. The Jetta Wagon has had the most rattles and other little annoyances. Right, my sister year 2000 German Made Golf has been a nightmare. The airflow sensor has broken down constantly and the integrated alarm has untracable flaw, or at least none of the dealers have been able or willing to trace it deep enough. There were some other problems too. The most sorry purchase. For the price of something like the 28-70/4 AL I expect that they were largely built by machine. Or they simply used cheap cement to keep the cost down. Regards, Alan Chan http://www.pbase.com/wlachan _ Free yourself from those irritating pop-up ads with MSn Premium. Get 2months FREE* http://join.msn.com/?pgmarket=en-capage=byoa/premxAPID=1994DI=1034SU=http://hotmail.com/encaHL=Market_MSNIS_Taglines
Re: Takumar 135/2.5 (Bayonet) any good?
Okay! Fair enough. I accept your evaluation. When I test mine, I'll report back, and we can compare the results... keith whaley Antonio Aparicio wrote: Aha, the opinion police are back! I've owned it, it was a dog, I got rid of it. My opinion. Antonio On 11 Jun 2004, at 23:58, Keith Whaley wrote: Antonio Aparicio wrote: The Takumar 135/2.5 bayonet is a dog - best avoided, A. By whose word? Are you testifying directly and personally that it's not a worthy lens? How do you know? Have you personally tested one? Or are you parroting someone else's opinion? keith whaley [...]
