Re: Moral dilemma

2007-01-24 Thread David Savage
On 1/24/07, Cotty [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 On 23/1/07, David Savage, discombobulated, unleashed:

  Define distasteful !
 
 Filming/reporting a best of blue vein cheese tasting.

 LOL  thanks mate. Coffee-nostrils.

Whoops.

Cheers,

Dave :-)

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Re: GESO: Moon and Venus last Saturday

2007-01-24 Thread David Savage
Lovely stuff Patrice. I like the 3rd one the best.

This is all I managed to come up with on Saturday:

http://www.arach.net.au/~savage/GESO/GESO_013/pages/_IGP0846.htm

http://www.arach.net.au/~savage/GESO/GESO_013/pages/_IGP0855.htm
(Your doing well if you can actually see the moon  Venus in this one :-)

Cheers,

Dave

On 1/24/07, Patrice LACOUTURE (GMail) [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 http://www.lacouture.nom.fr/gallery/v/geso/2007-01-20-LuneVenusMarseille/

 http://tinyurl.com/24bg2d

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Re: Post firmware control changes are interesting

2007-01-24 Thread Thibouille
Well, even before the update, I was not sure how to se the wheels on
my K10D, now I'm even more confused... but honestly happy to have the
choices I have: kudos Pentax !

I have the habit (from my (P)Z-1) to have front wheel=speed, back
wheel=aperture.
The problem is, if I assign either EV comp or ISO I have a problem
because the EV comp/ISO will be in the case of AV on the front wheel
and in TV on the back wheel.
I fear I will mix everything and have hard time to work like that.

So I dunno ;)

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Lenses stolen

2007-01-24 Thread Cotty
From another list:

Cheers,
  Cotty




I am forwarding this post from the Contax list at the request of the 
original poster who is not a member here.

Meherdad is a member of the LUG and CVUG too, and is trying to recover his 
lenses.


I am sad to announce that after much anticipation of wanting to
convert my contax N lenses to the EOS mount via the guy in Canada, i
rushed and sent him all of my lenses and it appears that he has walked
way with my lenses. he is not returning any of my emails. i tracked
him down via an ebay auction and he is there and responds to emails,
as soon as i introduced myself, i got the silent treatment.


I got an email from him that he is going to be in the us at the
following address

Bo-Ming Tong
145 Tyee Drive
Point Roberts, WA 98281

and that i can ship my lenses, so i did and i have proof that the
lenses got there. i plan to pursue this via the US courts going after
the addressee above and also see what can i do in Vancouver where he
lives

Coneos Imaging Corporation
2733 Chandlery Place, #708
Vancouver, BC V5S 4V3
Canada

meanwhile be on the look out for these lenses on ebay and other sites

here are the list of my lenses that are now stolen

Lens  Serial No Accessories
100 makro N 15071731 Caps and filter (generic front cap)
85mm 1.4   15148045 Caps and filter
70-300mm 12682351 Caps and filter (generic front cap)
24-85mm   12703094 Caps and filter
24-85mm   12699055 Caps and filter (generic front cap)
17-35mm 2.8 15129935 Caps and filter




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Re: Moral dilemma

2007-01-24 Thread mike wilson

 
 From: P. J. Alling [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 Date: 2007/01/24 Wed AM 12:42:09 GMT
 To: Pentax-Discuss Mail List pdml@pdml.net
 Subject: Re: Moral dilemma
 
 Seems to me that the BBC can't decide if it's organized. (or 
 disorganized), crime.

Salvage (saving something from total loss) very much depends on cicumstances.  
For example, if someone found one of the deck containers on the beach, secured 
it and claimed salage, that is perfectly legal.  They have to store it securely 
for a period of time, after which it is theirs if not claimed.  If they force 
open the container and take some of the contents, it gets very blurred.  On one 
hand, they have damaged the property (the container) but they could argue that 
they have salvaged the stuff they removed.  It's rather easy to guess the 
intentions of the wallys who have (allegedly) already offered stuff on ebay - 
which should be removing these auctions as fast as they are placed, as 
otherwise it is an accomplice.  If people have filled in the requisite 
paperwork and not caused further damage, there has been no crime.  It would 
have been nice if some of the rubbish could have been taken away at the same 
time.

These circumstances only apply at sea and on shorelines, where the possibility 
of an owner losing their proeprty entirely is high.  In previous times, when 
shipwreck was more common, it was a form of insurance.  Used corrctly, it still 
provides a useful service to owners.  It's an owner's legal obligation to 
accept salvage in some circumstances.


 
 Cotty wrote:
  On 23/1/07, mike wilson, discombobulated, unleashed:
 

  Define distasteful !

  I meant it as a generic statement.  Distasteful varies from person to
  person, as well as having a cultural side.  As a personal guide, I would
  have it mean to take advantage of the subject.  You could add
  disclaimers such as for no valid reason but then you are into defining
  validity.  Everyone knows what their personal beliefs and customs are. 
  Sometimes it is good to move outside them, even by accident, but one
  needs to know why.
  
 
  Granted. Everyone has limits, but I think setting them generically is
  implausible. Mercifully we have the rule of law in the civilised world
  because obviously we do not want anarchy. It's a tricky area. I'm a
  hardass newsguy but I tell you what - if I found a tenner lying in the
  road, I'd take it to the police station. And in fact I have.
 
  I have no bones about filming/photographing a corpse, but trudging along
  a beach with bits of motorcycle I find abhorrent !
 
  http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/uk/6291191.stm
 
  http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/england/6290887.stm
 

 
 
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Asked to do a wedding.

2007-01-24 Thread J and K Messervy
I have been asked whether I'd be interested in photographing the wedding of 
the brother of an acquaintance.

Now, I'm a very keen amateur and have been really into photography for about 
15 months.  I'm really thrilled to have been asked (the request was based on 
my work in my online gallery), but also more than a little hesitant to 
commit to doing it.  The wedding isn't until October, so there's lots of 
time to prepare.

I've never been responsible for taking photos for any important event, I 
just take them for myself.  I know the technical side and use the K10D's 
various manual functions, etc and I know I'm a reasonably good photographer. 
I'm not sure that I'm good enough to do a wedding though, it's more than a 
little scary.

I know there are people with pro experience on here, so I'm looking for 
advice, tips, etc.

I reckon if I do it, I'll want another flash (360 to go with my 540), a fast 
normal range zoom, lots of SD cards, etc.  What else should I be thinking 
about?  I will have plenty of time to prepare and the venue is here in 
Canberra, so i can scout it out and try shooting my family there, etc.

Should I back myself, trust my skills and jump in?  It could lead to a 
lucrative sideline and would certainly boost my experience and confidence if 
successful.  It would also be a real sense of accomplishment if I did a good 
job.  What pitfalls are there?

I don't even know what I should charge.  I reckon I'd have to spend a bit on 
gear to be ready, but I can't factor that into my fee.

Any and all tips, tricks and advice would be greatly appreciated!

Thanks

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Re: GESO: Moon and Venus last Saturday

2007-01-24 Thread Patrice LACOUTURE
This comet is something!

Too bad I was too busy to do anything about it, even not seeing it
with my eyes :-(.

Now it's your turn southerners, and it seems even more gorgeous there...

BTW, I *could* spot the moon and Venus on this one :-).

Unfortunately, the distance between the comet and the moon reduces the
impact of the image, but there isn't much one can do about it (I don't
want to hear the word Photoshop in this context, you've all been
warned! :-) ).

The other one is nice, but definitely lacks a foreground (as a
background is out of the question ;-) ).

That was the tricky part for me: finding a good landscape, where I
could place something interesting as close to the moon as possible,
and that had to be near the horizon and rather far so I could use a
telephoto lens to enlarge the moon...

But no comet, I have to concede ;-)

Next time this kind of event arises, I hope to warn the list earlier.
This is a fun challenge for any landscape photographer and I'm sure a
bunch of great pictures would come up from the list!

Thanks for viewing and sharing.

Patrice

2007/1/24, David Savage [EMAIL PROTECTED]:
 Lovely stuff Patrice. I like the 3rd one the best.

 This is all I managed to come up with on Saturday:

 http://www.arach.net.au/~savage/GESO/GESO_013/pages/_IGP0846.htm

 http://www.arach.net.au/~savage/GESO/GESO_013/pages/_IGP0855.htm
 (Your doing well if you can actually see the moon  Venus in this one :-)

 Cheers,

 Dave

 On 1/24/07, Patrice LACOUTURE (GMail) [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
  http://www.lacouture.nom.fr/gallery/v/geso/2007-01-20-LuneVenusMarseille/
 
  http://tinyurl.com/24bg2d

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Re: Post firmware control changes are interesting

2007-01-24 Thread Digital Image Studio
On 24/01/07, Thibouille [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 Well, even before the update, I was not sure how to se the wheels on
 my K10D, now I'm even more confused... but honestly happy to have the
 choices I have: kudos Pentax !

 I have the habit (from my (P)Z-1) to have front wheel=speed, back
 wheel=aperture.
 The problem is, if I assign either EV comp or ISO I have a problem
 because the EV comp/ISO will be in the case of AV on the front wheel
 and in TV on the back wheel.
 I fear I will mix everything and have hard time to work like that.

 So I dunno ;)

Yes, it's now almost to the point of too much choice :-)

http://blogs.business2.com/business2blog/2006/03/the_downside_of.html

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Re: Lenses stolen

2007-01-24 Thread mike wilson

 
 From: Cotty [EMAIL PROTECTED]

 Bo-Ming Tong

Odd.  That guy is a well-respected member of a number of lists/forums.


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Re: Asked to do a wedding.

2007-01-24 Thread Cotty
On 24/1/07, J and K Messervy, discombobulated, unleashed:

I have been asked whether I'd be interested in photographing the wedding of 
the brother of an acquaintance.

Oh crikey. Can --- worms !!

Make sure you have good insurance. If it all goes wrong, blood will be spilt.

Seriously - if you're going to do it, attend a wedding with express
intention of watching a professional wedding photog at work. You'll
learn a lot by doing that.

You'll get lots of advice here I'm sure.

I haven't shot stills for a wedding but I have filmed two, and won't do
it again.

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eBay Communications PART 2

2007-01-24 Thread Cotty
Steve,

In your advert you say operate your camera from 200yds distance using this 
gear and the item will be exactly as described or I will offer you a full 
refund. I have not had time to test the item at all, but I did read the 
manual last evening and it says that the maximum direct transmission range 
is 100 m/330ft. I will return the item in the same secure packaging and by 
the same method of post for full refund. With regret.

Regards

Peter Broadbent


(Ahar -  knew it!  Trouble with a capital T. I checked the book and
indeed he was right - the book says 100 metres, but I have used it past
this distance fine on full batteries. Nevertheless, I did make a mistake
in my listing, which is unusual for me. Anyway I'd had enough of this
bozo, so decided to call his bluff..)



Peter,

I have tested the item at 200 yards and it works.

I will not  be offering a refund on this item.

The item is as described.

Please do not send the item back as I will not be refunding you in this
instance.

Please feel free to take the matter up with eBay. I will be forwarding
all email exchanges between us to eBay for consideration.

Regards,

Steve C.



Steve,

Have checked with Canon Support and the item is for use up to a maximum 
range of 100 metres. Please reconsider your position and accept that you 
will refund in full.

Regards

Peter




Hi Peter,

I have read the Canon literature and concede the point that it does
indeed say that the LC-4 is capable of a range up to a maximum of 100
metres. However, I have used the LC-4 past that maximum. But that is a
moot point.

Other points you may wish to consider:

You claim to have read the details on the auction page but in case you
missed it, anyone with negative feedback should have emailed me first
before bidding. In fact you bid and won the item with some negative
feedback, in total contravention to eBay's policy as listed here:

http://pages.ebay.co.uk/help/policies/unwelcome-buying.html

I was minded to cancel the auction and file a complaint. However, I did
not. Your 2nd and 3rd emails to me were not what I would describe as
'friendly', and indeed I found them threatening.

Bidding and buying on an item in an eBay auction is supposed to be
final. In fact I am happy to refund on any item that is not as described
- a totally optional and friendly gesture. The Canon LC-4 Wireless
Remote Control that I sold to you was as described in full working order
and in mint condition. The fact that I may have detailed one fact with
an incorrect number (according to Canon) is relevant but not, in my
opinion, reason for a refund.

The fact is that you have had the item for several days now - you
claimed you needed it in a hurry, and I went against my better judgement
and sent it off earlier than I normally would have (again a friendly
gesture). And now you claim you have not even had the unit out to test it?

I am what I would consider to be a reasonable chap - I'm not out to con
anyone. Never have and never will. I provided an item for sale in good
faith. Anyone buying from eBay should do their own research and consider
carefully the deal they are entering into.

Regards,

Steve C


(If I had listed it correctly at 100m working distance, I would not
entertain a refund, unless the unit was faulty. I'll list my lessons
learned at the end of tail)


Steve,

Have now tested the item and it appears NOT to be working. Have spoken with 
Canon who are having a technician call me back to ascertain whether or not 
this is so. Will update you when I have a response.

Regards

Peter



Peter,

If this is the case, and the LC-4 is not working, then of course I will
honour a refund, including your postage costs. However, if the item is
returned to me and I test it and find it to be working, then it will be
packaged up and returned to you.

regards,

Steve C



Steve,

I have faults identified with the transmitter plus the item being not as 
described in your auction description. I shall return the item to you asap 
and if I do not receive a refund in full by return I shall not refer the 
matter to eBay but place the matter in County Court without further 
reference to your good self.

Regards
Peter



Peter,

I will gladly receive the item back. I will then test it myself, and if
I find the item to be in good working order, I will send it back to you
by return. Your idle threats about county court action do not frighten
me, so threaten away.

If I test the item and I find it is faulty, I will gladly refund you,
and offer my apologies.

Please be advised that I will be keeping track of all communications
between us as a reference in any possible future Police action that
could result with reference to any possible threatening behaviour likely
to take place.

And you may consider *that* as a threat.

Steve





Steve,

You misunderstand. I am not threatening you, nor did I intend to do so.

I will return the item to you tomorrow with details of my complaint.

Regards

Peter

(yeah 

eBay Communications PART 1

2007-01-24 Thread Cotty
Just looking at the other thread currently running about ebay and
feedback, I thought I'd recount a little tale that might be of use to
someone here.

I sold an IR remote used with Darkside flash units a while back on eBay.
Here is the auction:

http://cgi.ebay.co.uk/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?
ViewItemitem=7613651669ssPageName=ADME:L:LCA:UK:31

it's old so the pics are gone but the listing is still there.

A bloke won it, paid for it, received it, complained it wasn't working,
and wanted to return it. The only thing that bothered me was that in the
email communications we established, it seemed he'd already made his
mind up before receiving the item. I always keep every email from / to
buyers and sellers until an auction is well and truly finished. I kept
these until today for just this occasion. Have a look. have a read and
see what you think...

(my interspersed thought in parentheses)

I always write and ask for the other party to 'touch base' to establish
communications:

-
---

Steve,

Touching base as requested. Money will go tomorrow.

Peter



Hi Peter,

Cheque received, thanks. Will post out the LC-4 in 7 days by Special
Delivery (guaranteed before noon). Any particular day best for you as it
will need a signature...

Steve C




Steve,

Frankly it's a pain either way. I paid a premium price and then have to wait 
a week for someone that doesn't do Paypal. Just let me know when you send it 
please.

Peter B

(that's not very nice now is it. I instantly smell a furry rodent. Never
mind, I give as good as I get, viz - - )


Peter,

You paid a 'premium price' in an open and fair auction. I stated the
details of the transaction fairly and clearly. Why I do not do Paypal on
high value auctions is my own business. You did not have to bid, but
seeing as you did, and won, I see no point in being downright rude about
it. I was only trying to accommodate you as best I can.

Have a nice day.

Steve


Steve,

The point that you have missed is that indeed I paid a premium price (the 
LC-5 is the same price new in Hong Kong) in an open and fair auction but was 
not provided with (and I knew it before I bid as you say) a premium service! 
Unfortunately you were likely to be a bit quicker than International from HK 
(or the s/h one from Italy) and the birds will be out of the nest at the end 
of next week and I need the thing asap. I nearly sent you a postal order but 
finally couldn't be bothered with all the faffing around at the last minute.

I have some legal training (my son is working on his third Law Degree) and 
am clear about what I am doing and what the Law of Contract says. Let's hope 
your description matches the item accurately when it arrives! Don't mean to 
be rudebut do have a really, really nice day.

Peter

(aha - a veiled threat. Excellent - this is starting to get juicy. Here
we go..)



Hi Peter,

The point that you have missed is that indeed I paid a premium price (the 
LC-5 is the same price new in Hong Kong) in an open and fair auction but was 
not provided with (and I knew it before I bid as you say) a premium service! 

Define 'premium service'. The only service I am providing is an eBay
auction for a photographic item.

Unfortunately you were likely to be a bit quicker than International from HK 
(or the s/h one from Italy) and the birds will be out of the nest at the end 
of next week and I need the thing asap. I nearly sent you a postal order but 
finally couldn't be bothered with all the faffing around at the last minute.

With respect, not my problem.

I have some legal training (my son is working on his third Law Degree) and 
am clear about what I am doing and what the Law of Contract says. Let's hope 
your description matches the item accurately when it arrives! 

My description is accurate. Is that some kind of veiled threat? I have
been dealing on eBay for 6 years and I have never come across anyone as
rude and threatening as you sir. Thank goodness the rest of the eBay
community seems to be good-natured and polite.

Don't mean to 
be rudebut do have a really, really nice day.

I'll take that with the same sarcasm I offered to you.

Look, can we just crack on and finish the auction in a civilised manner?
Normally I would (and in fact am already on some other auctions) post
out the item on receipt of cheque, but as your feedback is not 100%,
that is the only reason I am not. If you want the remote control ASAP,
then I will allow 3 working days for the cheque to be processed. I will
call my bank monitor progress, and assuming all is well, I will post the
remote out to you this coming Friday - how does that sound? It will
hopefully be delivered on Saturday, although the guarantee is by Monday am.

I'm honestly not trying to be difficult and am happy to please but
reverse the situation (putting the Paypal issue aside)- - would you
really do it any differently from me?



Microsoft Photo info 1.0

2007-01-24 Thread Markus Maurer
http://www.microsoft.com/downloads/details.aspx?familyid=b038d4b5-1d88-437c-
9f54-1fb0d210b5efdisplaylang=en

may be useful for some
greetings
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Re: Microsoft Photo info 1.0

2007-01-24 Thread Patrice LACOUTURE
Not really a surprise, but it doesn't support DNG.

I wonder when Microsoft will issue a similar standard to begin
undermining Adobe's stronghold on digital media file formats (and, as
an all-important consequence, $oftware).

Patrice

2007/1/24, Markus Maurer [EMAIL PROTECTED]:
 http://www.microsoft.com/downloads/details.aspx?familyid=b038d4b5-1d88-437c-
 9f54-1fb0d210b5efdisplaylang=en

 may be useful for some
 greetings
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Re: OT- eBay

2007-01-24 Thread Kostas Kavoussanakis
On Tue, 23 Jan 2007, Paul Stenquist wrote:

 I disagree. As a seller, I never leave feedback until the buyer does.

Well, that's not how the game is played:

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5. Managing and Completing your sales.

...

Once the sale is complete, leave feedback for your buyer and encourage 
them to do the same for you.

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Unambiguous and final. Ebay is all about protocol.

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Re: Asked to do a wedding.

2007-01-24 Thread David Savage
If they're spending bottom dollar  realise that your not a pro
wedding photographer I'd suggest going for it. It may lead to a part
time job that would help pay for itself, or cure you of wedding
photography for life :-)

I was asked by the secretary at work to photograph her wedding. She
wasn't expecting much, but I still begged off, never having shot a
wedding and only ever attending 1.

After seeing the final results, I kicked myself for not having agreed
to do it. Not that I necessarily could have done a better job
(although I wouldn't have under exposed 60% of the shots), but the
experience would have been worthwhile.

I really depends what the bride, groom  the brides mother ;-) are
expecting, and if you think you can deliver.

Cheers,

Dave

On 1/24/07, J and K Messervy [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 I have been asked whether I'd be interested in photographing the wedding of
 the brother of an acquaintance.
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RE: eBay Communications PART 2

2007-01-24 Thread Malcolm Smith
Cotty wrote:

 Hope this is of use to someone :-)

Very much so. Thanks, a reminder to keep all correspondence.

Here's another one to note. My one neg came from a non-paying bidder. You've
got to watch these and just file a non-paying report ASAP and end it as soon
as you can without a reply from them. I waited for a reply - it was coming
up to Xmas -  (said he was a pensioner and ill in a direct e-mail and I felt
sorry for him at that time of year) and he never paid - probably never
intended too - because he finally replied to the non-paying report, it
entitled him to leave feedback - and he waited almost the 90 days to do
that, the fact he never paid was irrelevant. I could have ended the wait and
he would have lost the opportunity to reply and to leave feedback. I should
have sniffed the furry rodent :-(   

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Re: OT- eBay

2007-01-24 Thread Paul Stenquist

On Jan 24, 2007, at 5:53 AM, Kostas Kavoussanakis wrote:

 On Tue, 23 Jan 2007, Paul Stenquist wrote:

 I disagree. As a seller, I never leave feedback until the buyer does.

 Well, that's not how the game is played:

That's the way the game is played by cautious sellers. There are no 
specific rules in regard to providing feedback.
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Re: Asked to do a wedding.

2007-01-24 Thread Colin J
James Messervy wrote:

I have been asked whether I'd be interested in photographing the wedding of 
the brother of an acquaintance.

You must be very flattered.  However, consider why you have been approached.  
The usual reason is that professional wedding photographers appear to be 
expensive, and using a friend appears cheap.

Now, I'm a very keen amateur and have been really into photography for about
15 months.  

15 months?  The quickest way to lose a friend is to shoot their wedding when 
you don't have the experience for such an incredibly stressful and demanding 
task.  

A wedding can be an expensive event.  The happy couple may be grateful for your 
help in saving them a few pennies.  However, their gratitude for your shooting 
the event for a low price will soon be forgotten if you do not deliver the 
goods, and your failure will be remembered every time they refer to their 
wedding photos, or even worse, avoid referring to them. 

Just say no.  Do it now.   Don't even think of saying yes.

Sorry to be so harsh.

Colin









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Re: eBay Communications PART 2

2007-01-24 Thread David Savage
On 1/24/07, Cotty [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 Hope this is of use to someone :-)

Yeah, it'll make me think twice about selling stuff on eBay (I've only
ever bought).

Cheers,

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Re: Microsoft Photo info 1.0

2007-01-24 Thread Thibouille
I think they do have one BTW but nobody cares ;)

That said they have a vector format.. WMF and a new one I don't
remember the name.

2007/1/24, Patrice LACOUTURE [EMAIL PROTECTED]:
 Not really a surprise, but it doesn't support DNG.

 I wonder when Microsoft will issue a similar standard to begin
 undermining Adobe's stronghold on digital media file formats (and, as
 an all-important consequence, $oftware).

 Patrice

 2007/1/24, Markus Maurer [EMAIL PROTECTED]:
  http://www.microsoft.com/downloads/details.aspx?familyid=b038d4b5-1d88-437c-
  9f54-1fb0d210b5efdisplaylang=en
 
  may be useful for some
  greetings
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Re: eBay Communications PART 2

2007-01-24 Thread Digital Image Studio
On 24/01/07, David Savage [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 On 1/24/07, Cotty [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
  Hope this is of use to someone :-)

 Yeah, it'll make me think twice about selling stuff on eBay (I've only
 ever bought).

 Cheers,

Interesting story Cotty, but I think I can beat it. If you enjoy
poking yourself in the eye with a blunt stick on occasion check out my
little experience:

http://home.swiftdsl.com.au/~distudio/temp/An_eBay_folly.html

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Who is using GIMP 2.3.x

2007-01-24 Thread Boris Liberman
Hi!

Folks, any of you who's gone digital use GIMP 2.3.x??? If so please
contact me off-list.

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RE: eBay Communications PART 2

2007-01-24 Thread Rob Brigham
That's nothing - read this little lot if you have some time on your hands:

http://www.thedvdforums.com/forums/showthread.php?t=322205

Pretty hilarious!

Certainly puts me off selling on ebay regularly although I do on occasion when 
I must...

Rob



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Sent: 24 January 2007 10:08
To: pentax list
Subject: eBay Communications PART 2


Steve,

In your advert you say operate your camera from 200yds distance using this 
gear and the item will be exactly as described or I will offer you a full 
refund. I have not had time to test the item at all, but I did read the 
manual last evening and it says that the maximum direct transmission range 
is 100 m/330ft. I will return the item in the same secure packaging and by 
the same method of post for full refund. With regret.

Regards

Peter Broadbent


(Ahar -  knew it!  Trouble with a capital T. I checked the book and indeed he 
was right - the book says 100 metres, but I have used it past this distance 
fine on full batteries. Nevertheless, I did make a mistake in my listing, which 
is unusual for me. Anyway I'd had enough of this bozo, so decided to call his 
bluff..)



Peter,

I have tested the item at 200 yards and it works.

I will not  be offering a refund on this item.

The item is as described.

Please do not send the item back as I will not be refunding you in this 
instance.

Please feel free to take the matter up with eBay. I will be forwarding all 
email exchanges between us to eBay for consideration.

Regards,

Steve C.



Steve,

Have checked with Canon Support and the item is for use up to a maximum 
range of 100 metres. Please reconsider your position and accept that you 
will refund in full.

Regards

Peter




Hi Peter,

I have read the Canon literature and concede the point that it does indeed say 
that the LC-4 is capable of a range up to a maximum of 100 metres. However, I 
have used the LC-4 past that maximum. But that is a moot point.

Other points you may wish to consider:

You claim to have read the details on the auction page but in case you missed 
it, anyone with negative feedback should have emailed me first before bidding. 
In fact you bid and won the item with some negative feedback, in total 
contravention to eBay's policy as listed here:

http://pages.ebay.co.uk/help/policies/unwelcome-buying.html

I was minded to cancel the auction and file a complaint. However, I did not. 
Your 2nd and 3rd emails to me were not what I would describe as 'friendly', and 
indeed I found them threatening.

Bidding and buying on an item in an eBay auction is supposed to be final. In 
fact I am happy to refund on any item that is not as described
- a totally optional and friendly gesture. The Canon LC-4 Wireless Remote 
Control that I sold to you was as described in full working order and in mint 
condition. The fact that I may have detailed one fact with an incorrect number 
(according to Canon) is relevant but not, in my opinion, reason for a refund.

The fact is that you have had the item for several days now - you claimed you 
needed it in a hurry, and I went against my better judgement and sent it off 
earlier than I normally would have (again a friendly gesture). And now you 
claim you have not even had the unit out to test it?

I am what I would consider to be a reasonable chap - I'm not out to con anyone. 
Never have and never will. I provided an item for sale in good faith. Anyone 
buying from eBay should do their own research and consider carefully the deal 
they are entering into.

Regards,

Steve C


(If I had listed it correctly at 100m working distance, I would not entertain a 
refund, unless the unit was faulty. I'll list my lessons learned at the end of 
tail)


Steve,

Have now tested the item and it appears NOT to be working. Have spoken with 
Canon who are having a technician call me back to ascertain whether or not 
this is so. Will update you when I have a response.

Regards

Peter



Peter,

If this is the case, and the LC-4 is not working, then of course I will honour 
a refund, including your postage costs. However, if the item is returned to me 
and I test it and find it to be working, then it will be packaged up and 
returned to you.

regards,

Steve C



Steve,

I have faults identified with the transmitter plus the item being not as 
described in your auction description. I shall return the item to you asap 
and if I do not receive a refund in full by return I shall not refer the 
matter to eBay but place the matter in County Court without further 
reference to your good self.

Regards
Peter



Peter,

I will gladly receive the item back. I will then test it myself, and if I find 
the item to be in good working order, I will send it back to you by return. 
Your idle threats about county court action do not frighten me, so threaten 
away.

If I test the item and I find it is faulty, I will gladly refund you, and offer 
my 

Re: Lenses stolen

2007-01-24 Thread Doug Brewer
mike wilson wrote:
From: Cotty [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 
 
Bo-Ming Tong
 
 
 Odd.  That guy is a well-respected member of a number of lists/forums.

Yeah, he produced the first real Pentax FAQ, back in the day, and I am 
pretty sure he hung out here for a while.

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Re: eBay Communications PART 2

2007-01-24 Thread Mark Roberts
My personal policy eith eBay auctions is not to leave any feedback at 
all unless the auction is exceptional in some way, either good or bad. 
For a routine transaction - price reasonable, money transferred without 
problems, product shipped without much delay and received in good 
condition - I neither give nor expect feedback at all. No different 
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Re: Interest in developing a software around photograhy?

2007-01-24 Thread David Savage
This isn't a suggestion, but I'd love a colour manged web browser for Windows.

Cheers,

Dave

On 1/24/07, Thibouille [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 I have to produce a software as a final evaluation of my computer
 sciences studies.
 Of course, nothing like a RAW converter etc. but maybe there a couple
 things which would be handy to have in a little software?

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Re: OT- eBay

2007-01-24 Thread Mark Roberts
Paul Stenquist wrote:

I disagree. As a seller, I never leave feedback until the buyer does.  

This thread is fascinating! Wouldn't this whole eBay feedback thing 
make an excellent study for game theorists?

If the buyer never posts feedback, I don't either. Works for me.

Whether buying or selling, on the (relatively rare) occasions that I 
leave any feedback, I always wait until I've received feedback from the 
other party before I leave mine. If this results in a waiting game in 
which neither of us gets feedback... that's just fine with me. Can't 
see what the big deal is.


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Re: OT- eBay

2007-01-24 Thread Kostas Kavoussanakis
On Wed, 24 Jan 2007, Paul Stenquist wrote:


 On Jan 24, 2007, at 5:53 AM, Kostas Kavoussanakis wrote:

 On Tue, 23 Jan 2007, Paul Stenquist wrote:

 I disagree. As a seller, I never leave feedback until the buyer does.

 Well, that's not how the game is played:

 That's the way the game is played by cautious sellers. There are no
 specific rules in regard to providing feedback.

That's true, esp. if you delete them from the email you are quoting.

Kostas

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Re: eBay Communications PART 2

2007-01-24 Thread Scott Loveless
On 1/24/07, Mark Roberts [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 My personal policy eith eBay auctions is not to leave any feedback at
 all unless the auction is exceptional in some way, either good or bad.
 For a routine transaction - price reasonable, money transferred without
 problems, product shipped without much delay and received in good
 condition - I neither give nor expect feedback at all. No different
 than any other commercial sale outside eBay.

Has anyone ever called you a master of the obvious and meant it as a
compliment?  That's the sanest piece of advice I've read during the
course of this thread.

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Re: OT- eBay

2007-01-24 Thread David Savage
On 1/24/07, Mark Roberts [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 Whether buying or selling, on the (relatively rare) occasions that I
 leave any feedback, I always wait until I've received feedback from the
 other party before I leave mine. If this results in a waiting game in
 which neither of us gets feedback... that's just fine with me. Can't
 see what the big deal is.

Mark you obviously don't get it. Your feedback score is a measure of
your character.

If you have a low score you are a person of poor character. That's why
people get so defensive when they get negative feedback.

== VBG ==

Cheers,

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Re: GESO: Moon and Venus last Saturday

2007-01-24 Thread David Savage
G'day Patrice,

It's sure is something to see. It's still visible here though it's not
as spectacular as last week.

On 1/24/07, Patrice LACOUTURE [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 This comet is something!

 Too bad I was too busy to do anything about it, even not seeing it
 with my eyes :-(.

 Now it's your turn southerners, and it seems even more gorgeous there...

 BTW, I *could* spot the moon and Venus on this one :-).

:-) You did well.

 Unfortunately, the distance between the comet and the moon reduces the
 impact of the image, but there isn't much one can do about it (I don't
 want to hear the word Photoshop in this context, you've all been
 warned! :-) ).

It was purely a record shot, to give the size of the comment some
sense of scale.

 The other one is nice, but definitely lacks a foreground (as a
 background is out of the question ;-) ).

Yep. Next major feature...Africa :-)

 That was the tricky part for me: finding a good landscape, where I
 could place something interesting as close to the moon as possible,
 and that had to be near the horizon and rather far so I could use a
 telephoto lens to enlarge the moon...

This is always a challenge. For me it's sunsets. Trying to find
something other than the Indian Ocean to put between the sun  the
camera is an interesting challenge :-)

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Re: OT- eBay

2007-01-24 Thread Eactivist
In a message dated 1/24/2007 5:49:17 A.M.  Pacific Standard Time, 
[EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:
Whether buying or selling,  on the (relatively rare) occasions that I 
leave any feedback, I always wait  until I've received feedback from the 
other party before I leave mine. If  this results in a waiting game in 
which neither of us gets feedback...  that's just fine with me. Can't 
see what the big deal  is.

=
In my opinion it isn't a big deal, except for the  seller. 

A lot of buyers will not buy (I won't) from sellers with a lot  of negatives. 
If someone has about a thousand ratings and some negatives I will  probably 
still buy, because when they are a heavy seller they are bound to have  some 
negatives. So I read the negatives to see what they are. In some cases the  
negatives imply the seller may sometimes be hard to deal with, those I avoid. 
In  
some cases it seems like normal misunderstandings, those I will buy  from.

I also sell on Amazon, and because there isn't buyer feedback there  per se, 
I get feedback from only about 10% or less of customers. That is partly  why I 
wait on ebay, it works as a reminder. I tell them I will give them  feedback 
once they give me feedback, and that means on ebay I only get 10% who  *don't* 
give feedback. No one has complained to me about it, they can read the  
feedback I give buyers. I always leave positives, even if the payment is late,  
because some people prefer not to use credit card or PayPal or any other online 
 
method. Some people prefer to send a check, and that payment is always slower  
but I am not going to leave an neutral or negative about that, they had the  
right to choose to pay by a slower method.

The thing is, people ought to  look -- on ebay negative buyer feedback is 
much lower than seller negative  feedback. A seller is not going to leave 
negative or neutral feedback for a  buyer unless they absolutely have to, 
because 
there is no point in shooting  oneself in one's foot. Seller feedback is much 
more important.

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RE: eBay Communications PART 2

2007-01-24 Thread Rob Brigham
My personal policy is to not leave feedback until the other party has
left for me.  Of course if they do the same then no-one leaves anything.

My overriding policy is not to leave feedback for anything I don't want
the missus to know I have bought, and sometimes to ask the seller to do
the same!

Rob


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My personal policy eith eBay auctions is not to leave any feedback at 
all unless the auction is exceptional in some way, either good or bad. 
For a routine transaction - price reasonable, money transferred without 
problems, product shipped without much delay and received in good 
condition - I neither give nor expect feedback at all. No different 
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Re: A little *ist D statistics

2007-01-24 Thread Mark Roberts
Digital Image Studio wrote:

On 23/01/07, Mark Cassino [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

 That was about all my budget could handle and it simply was not
 enough for serious stock shooting (back when there was a viable market
 for stock photos.)

I'd be interested if you could expand a bit further on your statement
above, how has the stock photo market transformed since you've been
involved?

Here's a very interesting article on the state of the stock photo 
business:
http://www.luminous-landscape.com/essays/micro-payment.shtml

I wouldn't even consider getting into the stock photo business (as a 
photographer, anyway - as an agency it might be profitable!)


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Re: eBay Communications PART 2

2007-01-24 Thread Eactivist
In a message dated 1/24/2007 6:00:07 A.M.  Pacific Standard Time, 
[EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:
On 1/24/07, Mark Roberts  [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 My personal policy eith eBay auctions  is not to leave any feedback at
 all unless the auction is exceptional in  some way, either good or bad.
 For a routine transaction - price  reasonable, money transferred without
 problems, product shipped without  much delay and received in good
 condition - I neither give nor expect  feedback at all. No different
 than any other commercial sale outside  eBay.

===
A lot of people take that attitude, actually. It is  not unusual, as feedback 
is a post transaction thing. On Amazon, where there  isn't really buyer 
feedback like on ebay, that means that only a small  percentage leave feedback. 
And 
only either because they were really impressed by  a transaction or were very 
unhappy with it.

Marnie aka Doe  


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Re: PESO:in anticipation of snow

2007-01-24 Thread Boros Attila
Hello Markus,

Monday, January 22, 2007, 8:59:16 PM, you wrote:

 Hi Pentaxians
 still 12 hours to go for the very first snow this year in Zurich and large
 parts of Switzerland.
 In joyful anticipation of snow  :-) I prepared myself with some close-ups of
 frozen plants last week.
 I really look forward to take some panoramic shots of Zurich with snow in
 the next days.

 Please enjoy
 http://www.photo.net/photodb/photo?photo_id=5490412size=lg.

Thanks, it is really enjoyable, that light is amazing. It does not
look overexposed on my monitor but just a bit too bright for a fruit.
Had to check it in PS to be sure, got readings of RGB(254,254,251).
Not really blown out but very close. It can be easily fixed with the
Shadow/Highlight tool.

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Re: A little *ist D statistics

2007-01-24 Thread pnstenquist
I've done fairly well selling royalty free stock. At the very least I've paid 
for my last two digital SLRs and a few lenses to boot. But the micro stock 
agencies could change that. 
Paul
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From: Mark Roberts [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 Digital Image Studio wrote:
 
 On 23/01/07, Mark Cassino [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 
  That was about all my budget could handle and it simply was not
  enough for serious stock shooting (back when there was a viable market
  for stock photos.)
 
 I'd be interested if you could expand a bit further on your statement
 above, how has the stock photo market transformed since you've been
 involved?
 
 Here's a very interesting article on the state of the stock photo 
 business:
 http://www.luminous-landscape.com/essays/micro-payment.shtml
 
 I wouldn't even consider getting into the stock photo business (as a 
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Re: Asked to do a wedding.

2007-01-24 Thread William Robb

- Original Message - 
From: J and K Messervy Subject: Asked to do a wedding.


I have been asked whether I'd be interested in photographing the wedding of
 the brother of an acquaintance.

 Any and all tips, tricks and advice would be greatly appreciated!

From an email I sent to an aquaintance who is breaking into the game..


Wedding photography is as stressful as you care to make it.
I tend to make it pretty stressful myself.

Some things I discovered that helped alleviate this:

They have a pretty even chance of being divorced within a few years, so
the photography is about as disposable as a used car.
You may as well charge like a Rolls Royce, the pictures won't be around
long enough to prove they are a Chevette.

The brides mother is going to hate the pictures no matter what. She
already hates the asshole that her daughter chose to fall in love with,
and will transfer this loathing onto the pictures.
Don't worry about it, it's not a battle that can be won.
Don't fight it.
Take the opportunity to turn daughter against mother, instead.

If you have to, point out that this is the father of her grandchild.

Remember what the truly important pictures are, and get them.
Pictures of the bride and groom together are not necessarily the most
important in the long haul.

Generally, it is the family portraits. Make sure you get family
portraits of just the grooms family, and just the brides family.
Weddings are about families.

Hedge your bets and go with blood, not law or religion.

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Re: OT- eBay

2007-01-24 Thread William Robb

- Original Message - 
From: Kostas Kavoussanakis Subject: Re: OT- eBay


 On Wed, 24 Jan 2007, Paul Stenquist wrote:


 On Jan 24, 2007, at 5:53 AM, Kostas Kavoussanakis wrote:

 On Tue, 23 Jan 2007, Paul Stenquist wrote:

 I disagree. As a seller, I never leave feedback until the buyer does.

 Well, that's not how the game is played:

 That's the way the game is played by cautious sellers. There are no
 specific rules in regard to providing feedback.

 That's true, esp. if you delete them from the email you are quoting.

Sometimes it's just easier to quote from the page:

Once the sale is complete, leave feedback for your buyer and encourage them 
to do the same for you.

It would seem that sellers withholding feedback until they see buyer 
feedback is against the rules. Could sellers doing this be justifying 
negative feedback for not following the guidelines?

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Re: OT- eBay

2007-01-24 Thread William Robb

- Original Message - 
From: Mark Roberts
Subject: Re: OT- eBay



 If this results in a waiting game in
 which neither of us gets feedback... that's just fine with me. Can't
 see what the big deal is.


As a buyer, I want positive feedback, as it makes my bidding on items more 
legitimate from the POV of sellers. As a seller, I would want positive 
feedback to give me some legitimacy as a seller.
If you are just starting out, good feedback is essential.

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Opportunity or Rip Off ? Advice Solicited

2007-01-24 Thread Patrick Genovese
Hi everyone,

I've been asked to do a shoot of some historical sites but there is a catch.

1. The client wants full ownership rights to the images. Ie I won't be
able to use the shots for any other purpose.
2. I have to supply a selection of 50 images from which the customer
will make his own selection. Ie I will select the best 50 from the
shoot(s) and supply them with minimal editing.
3. I estimate that each shoot should take approximately 2 days per
site. including an element of post processing.  ( I know the sites
quite well )

All extra expenses will be covered by the client.

I don't normally do photography on a commercial basis but I'm
interested in this job due to the subject matter plus the extra income
will also be welcome.

What sort of permium should I put on point 1

What's the going rate for this sort of work.  (mainland europe).


Regards

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Re: OT- eBay

2007-01-24 Thread pnstenquist
The rules I deleted were yours and yours alone. Ebay has no specific policy 
in regard to feedback timing or sequence.
Paul
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From: Kostas Kavoussanakis [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 On Wed, 24 Jan 2007, Paul Stenquist wrote:
 
 
  On Jan 24, 2007, at 5:53 AM, Kostas Kavoussanakis wrote:
 
  On Tue, 23 Jan 2007, Paul Stenquist wrote:
 
  I disagree. As a seller, I never leave feedback until the buyer does.
 
  Well, that's not how the game is played:
 
  That's the way the game is played by cautious sellers. There are no
  specific rules in regard to providing feedback.
 
 That's true, esp. if you delete them from the email you are quoting.
 
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Re: Moral dilemma

2007-01-24 Thread Eactivist
In a message dated 1/23/2007 12:56:34 AM Pacific Standard Time, 
[EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:
You are a person of good taste and manners.  Which is why you will never make 
a journalist.
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Marnie aka Doe ;-)

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RE: OT- eBay

2007-01-24 Thread J. C. O'Connell
Feedback participation is purely OPTIONAL on ebay, there are
no ebay rules regarding when and and even if you leave
feedback for the other party on a transaction. The problem
with the so called guideline, there is really no other way
of knowing if the sale is truly complete other than positive feedback
from the buyer. If ebay had a system where the buyer check off
the sale as completed and final and satifactory (buyer could
no longer make any claims or post negative feedback ) then a seller
could leave positive feedback first, but they dont have that.
jco

-Original Message-
From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of
William Robb
Sent: Wednesday, January 24, 2007 9:57 AM
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Subject: Re: OT- eBay



- Original Message - 
From: Kostas Kavoussanakis Subject: Re: OT- eBay


 On Wed, 24 Jan 2007, Paul Stenquist wrote:


 On Jan 24, 2007, at 5:53 AM, Kostas Kavoussanakis wrote:

 On Tue, 23 Jan 2007, Paul Stenquist wrote:

 I disagree. As a seller, I never leave feedback until the buyer 
 does.

 Well, that's not how the game is played:

 That's the way the game is played by cautious sellers. There are no 
 specific rules in regard to providing feedback.

 That's true, esp. if you delete them from the email you are quoting.

Sometimes it's just easier to quote from the page:

Once the sale is complete, leave feedback for your buyer and encourage
them 
to do the same for you.

It would seem that sellers withholding feedback until they see buyer 
feedback is against the rules. Could sellers doing this be justifying 
negative feedback for not following the guidelines?

William Robb 


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Re: Post firmware control changes are interesting

2007-01-24 Thread Godfrey DiGiorgi
The way I set mine up is:

   P: EV comp front, P-shift rear
   Tv: EV comp front, Shutter rear
   Av: EV comp front, Aperture rear

Since these are my most used auto exposure modes, I want them all to  
operate the same way. The idea is direct access to EV comp on the  
front, the priority control on the rear. I have not yet gotten  
comfortable with hyper program.

   Sv: P-shift front, ISO rear
   TAv: Shutter front, aperture rear

EV comp in both of these is button plus front wheel.

In all cases I now can use OK button plus front wheel for ISO  
changes. in Av, Tv and P modes, I'm finding I use Auto ISO set to the  
range 100-400 most of the time ... Ok button plus Green button will  
restore the Auto ISO setting if you have used OK plus front wheel to  
shift it.

I'll tweak these settings as I see what confuses my fingers, but  
overall I'm finding it good.

G


On Jan 24, 2007, at 12:37 AM, Thibouille wrote:

 Well, even before the update, I was not sure how to se the wheels on
 my K10D, now I'm even more confused... but honestly happy to have the
 choices I have: kudos Pentax !

 I have the habit (from my (P)Z-1) to have front wheel=speed, back
 wheel=aperture.
 The problem is, if I assign either EV comp or ISO I have a problem
 because the EV comp/ISO will be in the case of AV on the front wheel
 and in TV on the back wheel.
 I fear I will mix everything and have hard time to work like that.

 So I dunno ;)


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Re: Opportunity or Rip Off ? Advice Solicited

2007-01-24 Thread Eactivist
In a message dated 1/24/2007 7:21:07 AM Pacific Standard Time, 
[EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:
Regards

Patrick Genovese

I am not a professional photographer but I'd have real problems with not 
being able to show at least one photo/image in my portfolio. I think you should 
insist on that. Say you won't sell them again, but in the future you need to be 
able to show one or more to others to show what you can do and that someone 
paid you to do it.

I expect the professionals have some recommendations on how to word that. 

Marnie aka Doe 

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Re: Opportunity or Rip Off ? Advice Solicited

2007-01-24 Thread William Robb

- Original Message - 
From: Patrick Genovese
Subject: Opportunity or Rip Off ? Advice Solicited


 Hi everyone,

 I've been asked to do a shoot of some historical sites but there is a 
 catch.

 1. The client wants full ownership rights to the images. Ie I won't be
 able to use the shots for any other purpose.
 2. I have to supply a selection of 50 images from which the customer
 will make his own selection. Ie I will select the best 50 from the
 shoot(s) and supply them with minimal editing.
 3. I estimate that each shoot should take approximately 2 days per
 site. including an element of post processing.  ( I know the sites
 quite well )

 All extra expenses will be covered by the client.

 I don't normally do photography on a commercial basis but I'm
 interested in this job due to the subject matter plus the extra income
 will also be welcome.

 What sort of permium should I put on point 1

 What's the going rate for this sort of work.  (mainland europe).

Depending on the laws of your country, the person paying for the work may 
own first right of copy to it anyway, so point one may be moot.
Check the copyright laws of your country on this.
If the contract wouldn't allow me to use the images at all, I would put a 
premium on the pictures, and would ask permission of the site owners to 
return at a future date and retake the pictures for my own purposes, were I 
so inclined as to wish to use them.

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Re: Asked to do a wedding.

2007-01-24 Thread Cotty
On 24/1/07, William Robb, discombobulated, unleashed:

Wedding photography is as stressful as you care to make it.
I tend to make it pretty stressful myself.

Some things I discovered that helped alleviate this:

They have a pretty even chance of being divorced within a few years, so
the photography is about as disposable as a used car.
You may as well charge like a Rolls Royce, the pictures won't be around
long enough to prove they are a Chevette.

The brides mother is going to hate the pictures no matter what. She
already hates the asshole that her daughter chose to fall in love with,
and will transfer this loathing onto the pictures.
Don't worry about it, it's not a battle that can be won.
Don't fight it.
Take the opportunity to turn daughter against mother, instead.

If you have to, point out that this is the father of her grandchild.

Remember what the truly important pictures are, and get them.
Pictures of the bride and groom together are not necessarily the most
important in the long haul.

Generally, it is the family portraits. Make sure you get family
portraits of just the grooms family, and just the brides family.
Weddings are about families.

Hedge your bets and go with blood, not law or religion.

LOL

I swear Bill, you have a book about photography in you. For *my* sake
will you please get stuck in and write it mate!

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Re: Opportunity or Rip Off ? Advice Solicited

2007-01-24 Thread pnstenquist
I charge $1500 a day plus expenses for that kind of work in the U.S. That seems 
to be about the going rate for a part-time workmanlike photographer. Top 
commercial pros charge as much as $30,000 a day, but that buys the client a 
crew as well as the photographer.
Paul
 -- Original message --
From: Patrick Genovese [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 Hi everyone,
 
 I've been asked to do a shoot of some historical sites but there is a catch.
 
 1. The client wants full ownership rights to the images. Ie I won't be
 able to use the shots for any other purpose.
 2. I have to supply a selection of 50 images from which the customer
 will make his own selection. Ie I will select the best 50 from the
 shoot(s) and supply them with minimal editing.
 3. I estimate that each shoot should take approximately 2 days per
 site. including an element of post processing.  ( I know the sites
 quite well )
 
 All extra expenses will be covered by the client.
 
 I don't normally do photography on a commercial basis but I'm
 interested in this job due to the subject matter plus the extra income
 will also be welcome.
 
 What sort of permium should I put on point 1
 
 What's the going rate for this sort of work.  (mainland europe).
 
 
 Regards
 
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OT: Some more amazing photographs

2007-01-24 Thread Daniel J. Matyola
Things you don't see every day, from a PowerPoint Slide Show by Hakan Altundas:

http://hytaipan.home.comcast.net/different_photos.htm

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Re: OT- eBay

2007-01-24 Thread ann sanfedele


Perry Pellechia wrote:

On 1/23/07, Paul Stenquist [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
  

I disagree. As a seller, I never leave feedback until the buyer does.
There's a risk of being blackmailed by unscrupulous buyers if you
commit too soon to positive feedback. I've heard many horror stories
of buyers complaining about merchandise and requesting a refund right
after they received positive feedback. The seller has the most to
lose in this situation. It's better to wait. If the buyer never posts
feedback, I don't either. Works for me.
Paul



A sellers could look at my feedback and determine that I am a trusted
buyer or not.  Combined with my prompt payment, this should be more
than enough for them to decide they could place the feedback that is
deserved.  If their product is how they described then they should
also be assured that I will have no reason to complain.

Perry.

You only need to get stung once, though. The buyer isn't harmed by you 
waiting..
I leave pos feedback for all buyers who paid me, whether they have left 
me feedback or not -
but usually I wait until I know they have received it and it is past 
time for them to ask for a return.

I'm happy to say I rarely have had returns or even requests for one.  I 
don't sell much stuff that
appeals to persnickity buyers or is very high end.  But when I sell 
something kinda expensive for
someone else (like a vintage PUCCI dress that isn't flawless) and I 
don't see feedback after a couple of
weeks I might write and ask for reassurance they are pleased and have 
received package safely if
sent somewhere I cant track it.

I never fight with them or demand stuff or virtually yell, no matter what.

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Re: Opportunity or Rip Off ? Advice Solicited

2007-01-24 Thread Eactivist
In a message dated 1/24/2007 7:42:13 AM Pacific Standard Time, 
[EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:
Generally, the photographer can't resell the photos from a commercial shoot 
nor can he use them editorially. But in almost all instances, he can include 
them in his own portfolio.
Paul
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Curious, Paul. Does it need to be spelled out that he/she CAN use them in 
their own portfolio?

Marnie aka Doe 

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Re: Opportunity or Rip Off ? Advice Solicited

2007-01-24 Thread pnstenquist
Generally, the photographer can't resell the photos from a commercial shoot nor 
can he use them editorially. But in almost all instances, he can include them 
in his own portfolio.
Paul
 -- Original message --
From: William Robb [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 
 - Original Message - 
 From: Patrick Genovese
 Subject: Opportunity or Rip Off ? Advice Solicited
 
 
  Hi everyone,
 
  I've been asked to do a shoot of some historical sites but there is a 
  catch.
 
  1. The client wants full ownership rights to the images. Ie I won't be
  able to use the shots for any other purpose.
  2. I have to supply a selection of 50 images from which the customer
  will make his own selection. Ie I will select the best 50 from the
  shoot(s) and supply them with minimal editing.
  3. I estimate that each shoot should take approximately 2 days per
  site. including an element of post processing.  ( I know the sites
  quite well )
 
  All extra expenses will be covered by the client.
 
  I don't normally do photography on a commercial basis but I'm
  interested in this job due to the subject matter plus the extra income
  will also be welcome.
 
  What sort of permium should I put on point 1
 
  What's the going rate for this sort of work.  (mainland europe).
 
 Depending on the laws of your country, the person paying for the work may 
 own first right of copy to it anyway, so point one may be moot.
 Check the copyright laws of your country on this.
 If the contract wouldn't allow me to use the images at all, I would put a 
 premium on the pictures, and would ask permission of the site owners to 
 return at a future date and retake the pictures for my own purposes, were I 
 so inclined as to wish to use them.
 
 William Robb 
 
 
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Re: OT- eBay

2007-01-24 Thread ann sanfedele
G,
the thing is simply this - you can't ever retract (or not without an 
extreme hassle) the
positive rating you gave someone as soon as you got their money.  I have 
had few
hassles, but occasionally someone whined - mind you, because they hadn't 
bothered
to read the description, about some $10 item - I coddle them , but if 
they really
were silly or nuts and kept the item I merely say thank you in the 
feedback area.
instead of something more elaborate.  

I've never had any problem with international buyers, only those in the 
USA, interestingly,

ann


Godfrey DiGiorgi wrote:

In several hundred sale transactions, I've only had one buyer who  
acted erratically. He was very nervous, likely because he was paying  
me top dollar for a collectible item and was barely able to afford  
it. He was annoyed even having received it that it wasn't exactly as  
his fantasy about it had set his expectations, even though it was  
very accurately described. I offered to take the item back and refund  
his money without question, split the return shipping charge. He came  
to the conclusion that he liked it too much, it was really what he  
had wanted, and begged off with an apology.

I require buyers to contact me to promote good communications. It  
seems to work. I've only ever had one other bad sale, not on Ebay,  
by one of those scammers who want to launder money through a seller.  
It's very easy to simply refuse the sale and accept no money from them.

G


On Jan 23, 2007, at 7:08 PM, Paul Stenquist wrote:

  

In a perfect world, you might be right, Godfrey. But in the real
world, unscrupulous buyers frequently try to rip off legitimate
sellers. Leaving feedback before the buyer has approved the
merchandise only encourages that behavior. Do as you wish, but beware
of rip-off artists.
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Re: Asked to do a wedding.

2007-01-24 Thread cbwaters
If you make it VERY clear that you're no pro and that they should expect 
crap then you might not want to kill yourself when it's done.
Make sure you KNOW what they are expecting.  Try making a list of shots you 
know they'll want and go over that with the bride.

Long-time list members may remember I was asked to shoot the First Communion 
at my wife's church several years ago.  I used two different bodies (film) 
and flashes.  Half the photos came out great  The other half, from the other 
body, were under exposed.  I figured out later what happened but it's too 
late, of course.  Unlike weddings, these kids only have ONE first communion.
I probably had about your level of experience back then.  I felt bad but 
hey, they didn't pay me, right?  Still, I really shouldn't have accepted the 
job.  I still remember getting flamed on the list when I recounted the 
event.

So, I guess I'm saying you shouldn't take the job.  But if you do, tread 
lightly, you're on thin ice.

Cory

- Original Message - 
From: J and K Messervy [EMAIL PROTECTED]
To: Pentax-Discuss Mail List pdml@pdml.net
Sent: Wednesday, January 24, 2007 4:20 AM
Subject: Asked to do a wedding.


I have been asked whether I'd be interested in photographing the wedding of
 the brother of an acquaintance.

 Now, I'm a very keen amateur and have been really into photography for 
 about
 15 months.  I'm really thrilled to have been asked (the request was based 
 on
 my work in my online gallery), but also more than a little hesitant to
 commit to doing it.  The wedding isn't until October, so there's lots of
 time to prepare.

 I've never been responsible for taking photos for any important event, I
 just take them for myself.  I know the technical side and use the K10D's
 various manual functions, etc and I know I'm a reasonably good 
 photographer.
 I'm not sure that I'm good enough to do a wedding though, it's more than a
 little scary.

 I know there are people with pro experience on here, so I'm looking for
 advice, tips, etc.

 I reckon if I do it, I'll want another flash (360 to go with my 540), a 
 fast
 normal range zoom, lots of SD cards, etc.  What else should I be thinking
 about?  I will have plenty of time to prepare and the venue is here in
 Canberra, so i can scout it out and try shooting my family there, etc.

 Should I back myself, trust my skills and jump in?  It could lead to a
 lucrative sideline and would certainly boost my experience and confidence 
 if
 successful.  It would also be a real sense of accomplishment if I did a 
 good
 job.  What pitfalls are there?

 I don't even know what I should charge.  I reckon I'd have to spend a bit 
 on
 gear to be ready, but I can't factor that into my fee.

 Any and all tips, tricks and advice would be greatly appreciated!

 Thanks

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Re: Asked to do a wedding.

2007-01-24 Thread Amita Guha
Along the lines of what Colin said, have you ever shot a wedding you
were attending, just for fun? My husband and I do that - we bring full
kits with flashes, diffusers, etc. We stay out of the way of the pros,
and in return the pros are usually pretty nice to us. It is a great
way to practice. We have also learned a lot by watching the pros, both
good ones and bad ones.

Amita

On 1/24/07, Colin J [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 James Messervy wrote:
 
 I have been asked whether I'd be interested in photographing the wedding of
 the brother of an acquaintance.

 You must be very flattered.  However, consider why you have been approached.  
 The usual reason is that professional wedding photographers appear to be 
 expensive, and using a friend appears cheap.

 Now, I'm a very keen amateur and have been really into photography for about
 15 months.

 15 months?  The quickest way to lose a friend is to shoot their wedding when 
 you don't have the experience for such an incredibly stressful and demanding 
 task.

 A wedding can be an expensive event.  The happy couple may be grateful for 
 your help in saving them a few pennies.  However, their gratitude for your 
 shooting the event for a low price will soon be forgotten if you do not 
 deliver the goods, and your failure will be remembered every time they refer 
 to their wedding photos, or even worse, avoid referring to them.

 Just say no.  Do it now.   Don't even think of saying yes.

 Sorry to be so harsh.

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Re: OT- eBay

2007-01-24 Thread ann sanfedele


William Robb wrote:

- Original Message - 
From: Paul Stenquist Subject: Re: OT- eBay

  




Two way street Paul. I've only done some 50 eBay transactions

Keyword, only 50 :)

, all were 
purchases on my part. I've had two sellers rip me off outright, one seller 
send an item that was nowhere near as advertised, and two vendors who 
refused to leave feedback until after I had left positive feedback for them.

They shouldn't demand it of you, but if you were pleased with what you 
got, bill,
a simple thank you shouldn't hurt.  

The question I have for this sort of vendor is, if you have been honest and 
haven't misrepresented anything, what are you afraid of?

There have been some problems with fake payments on paypal I've heard. 
 As a seller,
if you get negative feedback that adds up you could get kicked off ebay. 
 no prob if
you are a buyer, but if you are a seller and you need it for income - no 
matter that
a complaint is unjustified, it is still there

It is far easier to be an unscrupulous vendor than an unscrupulous buyer, 
and my experience is that there are far more dishonest vendors than there 
are buyers.

William Robb

all true, which is why sellers get screwed by the few that are there... 
you hear much more
about the naughty sellers.

I just went through a hassle over a $10 item - and I had already left 
pos feedback.  the
buyer was wrong, she kept the item, ultimately.  I spent too much time 
in emails being nice
to her and she never even wrote back.  

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Re: eBay Communications PART 2

2007-01-24 Thread Cotty
On 24/1/07, Digital Image Studio, discombobulated, unleashed:

Interesting story Cotty, but I think I can beat it. If you enjoy
poking yourself in the eye with a blunt stick on occasion check out my
little experience:

http://home.swiftdsl.com.au/~distudio/temp/An_eBay_folly.html

What a bloody chore!  And 'War And Peace' to boot. You have the patience
of a saint.

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Re: PESO - Norwegian Door

2007-01-24 Thread Boros Attila
Hello Dag,

Tuesday, January 23, 2007, 12:37:50 AM, you wrote:

 Tired of fencing, close the door please .-)

 http://foto.no/cgi-bin/bildekritikk/vis_bilde.cgi?id=283279

 DagT
 http://www.thrane.cc

I like it, but it's kinda strange. I would not expect to see a door
lying on the ground, nor a bunch of dried leaves mixed with grass
behind a closed door. If I think about it, it doesn't make any sense,
and the strangeness of the juxtaposition is what strikes me. It has a
strong visual impact.


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Re: Opportunity or Rip Off ? Advice Solicited

2007-01-24 Thread pnstenquist
I've never seen it spelled out. Generally, it's just assumed that the 
photographer will show them in the portfolio if he or she chooses to do so.
Paul
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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 In a message dated 1/24/2007 7:42:13 AM Pacific Standard Time, 
 [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:
 Generally, the photographer can't resell the photos from a commercial shoot 
 nor can he use them editorially. But in almost all instances, he can include 
 them in his own portfolio.
 Paul
 =
 Curious, Paul. Does it need to be spelled out that he/she CAN use them in 
 their own portfolio?
 
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RE: Asked to do a wedding.

2007-01-24 Thread J. C. O'Connell
By all means read a good book on the subject. I bought
Pro Techniques of Wedding Photography on HP books ISBN 0-89586-632-3
about 10 years ago and found it enormously helpful for
a whole bunch of things. I dont think you will learn as much
by just watching a pro as you will by a good book written
by a pro on the topic. I gave up doing weddings even though
I was getting great results and refferals because its too
pressure filled with only one chance to get it just right.
You cant reshoot a wedding or reception if something goes
wrong for any reason and I hated the pressure of that even
though I didnt have any major mishaps. I made some good money
but it just wasnt worth the stress of the experiences. After
reading the book, I was much more relaxed about it all but
I still didnt like any pressure at all, and no matter how well planned
you are and how good you are, there is still always going to
be some pressure in those type situations/jobs.
jco

-Original Message-
From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of
J and K Messervy
Sent: Wednesday, January 24, 2007 4:20 AM
To: Pentax-Discuss Mail List
Subject: Asked to do a wedding.


I have been asked whether I'd be interested in photographing the wedding
of 
the brother of an acquaintance.

Now, I'm a very keen amateur and have been really into photography for
about 
15 months.  I'm really thrilled to have been asked (the request was
based on 
my work in my online gallery), but also more than a little hesitant to 
commit to doing it.  The wedding isn't until October, so there's lots of

time to prepare.

I've never been responsible for taking photos for any important event, I

just take them for myself.  I know the technical side and use the K10D's

various manual functions, etc and I know I'm a reasonably good
photographer. 
I'm not sure that I'm good enough to do a wedding though, it's more than
a 
little scary.

I know there are people with pro experience on here, so I'm looking for 
advice, tips, etc.

I reckon if I do it, I'll want another flash (360 to go with my 540), a
fast 
normal range zoom, lots of SD cards, etc.  What else should I be
thinking 
about?  I will have plenty of time to prepare and the venue is here in 
Canberra, so i can scout it out and try shooting my family there, etc.

Should I back myself, trust my skills and jump in?  It could lead to a 
lucrative sideline and would certainly boost my experience and
confidence if 
successful.  It would also be a real sense of accomplishment if I did a
good 
job.  What pitfalls are there?

I don't even know what I should charge.  I reckon I'd have to spend a
bit on 
gear to be ready, but I can't factor that into my fee.

Any and all tips, tricks and advice would be greatly appreciated!

Thanks

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Re: Asked to do a wedding.

2007-01-24 Thread Godfrey DiGiorgi
On Jan 24, 2007, at 1:20 AM, J and K Messervy wrote:
 ... Any and all tips, tricks and advice would be greatly appreciated!

Once upon a time in my ill-spent youth, I had an arrangement with a  
local wedding photographer to do BW candids at weddings where he did  
all the formally posed shots. My deal was an added value service ...  
the promise was to provide a small book of 50-100 additional BW  
photos, 5x7 size, taken during the service and reception, out of the  
way of the standard fare, and get $100 per event for my time (given  
that this was 1973-1974, that was a lot of money for a high school  
kid!). Total charge for the service was $175 on top of the arranged  
wedding photo contract, whatever that was.

I did it for about a year, about 15 weddings. Most responses to my  
work were positive, occasionally I got a couple of reprint orders.  
Once or twice I got the the compliment that they liked my candids  
better than the official pro shots.

It proved a very low-stress way of working weddings. Watching the pro  
do his schtick convinced me that I'd never want to do that work in a  
thousand years. i haven't even attended weddings since, except on  
very very rare occasion for the closest of friends, never mind  
photographed them. What people want today in wedding photographs I  
haven't the foggiest idea.

My inclination when people ask if I would like to do a wedding is to  
flee. ;-)

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Re: GESO: Moon and Venus last Saturday

2007-01-24 Thread Eric Featherstone
On 23/01/07, Patrice LACOUTURE (GMail) [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 Hi all,

 There was a great conjunction between Venus and the moon last Saturday.

 Here is a selection of my coverage of the event, here in Marseille,
 southern France:

 http://www.lacouture.nom.fr/gallery/v/geso/2007-01-20-LuneVenusMarseille/

 http://tinyurl.com/24bg2d

 I have fiddled for about one month trying to figure out a nice place to
 shoot the event, and only Friday an old photo of mine (visible here:
 http://www.lacouture.nom.fr/gallery/d/1584-1/Notre+Dame+de+la+Garde-web.jpg
 and http://tinyurl.com/yqobhy) reminded me that I know a good vantage
 point from where one can see the sun and all those things that orbit
 around it setting almost behind the major church in Marseille (at least
 at this time in the year).

 I sent a post about this a short while *before* the event, unfortunately
 it failed.

 As usual, comments are always welcome.

 With all my best wishes for year 2007.

 Patrice

Lovely! Particularly 2007-01-20 Lune et Venus Marseille_0041

Thanks for sharing,
Eric.

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RE: Asked to do a wedding.

2007-01-24 Thread J. C. O'Connell
I forgot to mention, the good wedding photography book I noted in the
last post
quoted below was written by Robert and Sheila Hurth.
JCO
-Original Message-
From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of
J. C. O'Connell
Sent: Wednesday, January 24, 2007 10:53 AM
To: 'Pentax-Discuss Mail List'
Subject: RE: Asked to do a wedding.


By all means read a good book on the subject. I bought
Pro Techniques of Wedding Photography on HP books ISBN 0-89586-632-3
about 10 years ago and found it enormously helpful for a whole bunch of
things. I dont think you will learn as much by just watching a pro as
you will by a good book written by a pro on the topic. I gave up doing
weddings even though I was getting great results and refferals because
its too pressure filled with only one chance to get it just right. You
cant reshoot a wedding or reception if something goes wrong for any
reason and I hated the pressure of that even though I didnt have any
major mishaps. I made some good money but it just wasnt worth the stress
of the experiences. After reading the book, I was much more relaxed
about it all but I still didnt like any pressure at all, and no matter
how well planned you are and how good you are, there is still always
going to be some pressure in those type situations/jobs. jco

-Original Message-
From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of
J and K Messervy
Sent: Wednesday, January 24, 2007 4:20 AM
To: Pentax-Discuss Mail List
Subject: Asked to do a wedding.


I have been asked whether I'd be interested in photographing the wedding
of 
the brother of an acquaintance.

Now, I'm a very keen amateur and have been really into photography for
about 
15 months.  I'm really thrilled to have been asked (the request was
based on 
my work in my online gallery), but also more than a little hesitant to 
commit to doing it.  The wedding isn't until October, so there's lots of

time to prepare.

I've never been responsible for taking photos for any important event, I

just take them for myself.  I know the technical side and use the K10D's

various manual functions, etc and I know I'm a reasonably good
photographer. 
I'm not sure that I'm good enough to do a wedding though, it's more than
a 
little scary.

I know there are people with pro experience on here, so I'm looking for 
advice, tips, etc.

I reckon if I do it, I'll want another flash (360 to go with my 540), a
fast 
normal range zoom, lots of SD cards, etc.  What else should I be
thinking 
about?  I will have plenty of time to prepare and the venue is here in 
Canberra, so i can scout it out and try shooting my family there, etc.

Should I back myself, trust my skills and jump in?  It could lead to a 
lucrative sideline and would certainly boost my experience and
confidence if 
successful.  It would also be a real sense of accomplishment if I did a
good 
job.  What pitfalls are there?

I don't even know what I should charge.  I reckon I'd have to spend a
bit on 
gear to be ready, but I can't factor that into my fee.

Any and all tips, tricks and advice would be greatly appreciated!

Thanks

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Re: Lenses stolen

2007-01-24 Thread mike wilson

 
 From: Doug Brewer [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 Date: 2007/01/24 Wed PM 01:31:01 GMT
 To: Pentax-Discuss Mail List pdml@pdml.net
 Subject: Re: Lenses stolen
 
 mike wilson wrote:
 From: Cotty [EMAIL PROTECTED]
  
  
 Bo-Ming Tong
  
  
  Odd.  That guy is a well-respected member of a number of lists/forums.
 
 Yeah, he produced the first real Pentax FAQ, back in the day, and I am 
 pretty sure he hung out here for a while.

I _knew_ I'd seen the name in relation to PDML but couldn't remember where.  
Think I've just had my first real senior moment


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Re: OT- eBay

2007-01-24 Thread Godfrey DiGiorgi
hi Ann,

Here's the thing, Ann: I just don't care.

I sell things on Ebay now and then, in bursts, for the benefit of the  
buyers. It's mostly stuff that I have cluttering up the apartment and  
I figure if I put it out for sale a) other people who value it will  
have the opportunity to buy it, and b) I'll get some money back from  
it. If no one wants it, it either goes back into the dark corner from  
which it came or straight into the garbage where it probably belongs.  
If a buyer wants to be a dickhead, well, to put it politely, just go  
away: I don't want their business. ;-)

I always keep copies of all my sales and the complete email  
transaction record in which I articulate fully the terms of the  
transaction, and I record both the receipt of payment and the  
shipping just in case anyone wants to take me to court for some  
irrational reason. I've had a lawyer friend proof my records and  
email methodology, her summary was that Your butt is covered, don't  
worry about it, and tell the dickheads to sit on a stick and rotate.

As a result of this good karma, I've only had one whiner and all good  
transactions on my sales. I've only had one or two less than  
wonderful experiences buying from Ebay, possibly because I'm picky  
about what I buy and usually only buy with BIN sales from well known  
vendors. I lose most of the open ended auctions I bid on because I  
just set a price that I am willing to pay when I see an item and  
don't look back until the auction is over. 99% of the time some idiot  
has sniped the item in the last 20 seconds for half again what it's  
worth ... Nothing's worth that much stupidity to me.

Do I have an attitude? Na, I'm just a friendly kinda guy. ;-)

The vast majority of the good stuff I might have for sale is sold  
directly to interested, knowledgeable people who hear about it word  
of mouth from me and my friends. All have been excellent, several  
have become good friends after they bought nice stuff from me. Far  
away from Ebay and other such nonsense.

G

On Jan 24, 2007, at 7:43 AM, ann sanfedele wrote:

 G,
 the thing is simply this - you can't ever retract (or not without an
 extreme hassle) the
 positive rating you gave someone as soon as you got their money.  I  
 have
 had few
 hassles, but occasionally someone whined - mind you, because they  
 hadn't
 bothered
 to read the description, about some $10 item - I coddle them , but if
 they really
 were silly or nuts and kept the item I merely say thank you in the
 feedback area.
 instead of something more elaborate.

 I've never had any problem with international buyers, only those in  
 the
 USA, interestingly,

 ann


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Re: OT- eBay

2007-01-24 Thread ann sanfedele


[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

...

The thing is, people ought to  look -- on ebay negative buyer feedback is 
much lower than seller negative  feedback. A seller is not going to leave 
negative or neutral feedback for a  buyer unless they absolutely have to, 
because 
there is no point in shooting  oneself in one's foot. Seller feedback is much 
more important.

Marnie aka  Doe  


  

Yup yup yup...

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Re: Lenses stolen

2007-01-24 Thread Joseph Tainter
 Bo-Ming Tong
 
 
  Odd.  That guy is a well-respected member of a number of lists/forums.

Yeah, he produced the first real Pentax FAQ, back in the day, and I am
pretty sure he hung out here for a while.

-

The name sounds like a guy who once worked for Pentax Canada, and in the 
early 90s posted a description of the differences between F and FA lenses.

Joe

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Re: PESO: two more

2007-01-24 Thread ann sanfedele
Ralf
I love your stuff, Ralf
I like the second one most.

a friend of mine once wrote a poem titled Beauty Lurks -
kinda describes your photos - turning something that is often
shown as ominous to something that is beautiful.  



ann

Ralf R. Radermacher wrote:

One from Boulogne:

http://www.fotocommunity.de/pc/pc/mypics/770012/display/7757564

and another one from Liège:

http://www.fotocommunity.de/pc/pc/extra/buddies/display/7752110

Enjoy. Comments and suggestions as always most welcome.

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Re: Asked to do a wedding.

2007-01-24 Thread Mark Roberts
William Robb wrote:

Wedding photography is as stressful as you care to make it.

and...
You may as well charge like a Rolls Royce, the pictures won't be 
around long enough to prove they are a Chevette.

and...
Remember what the truly important pictures are, and get them.

and...
Hedge your bets and go with blood, not law or religion.

For 2007 I may have to establish a special quotations file just for 
Bill Robb :)


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Re: Opportunity or Rip Off ? Advice Solicited

2007-01-24 Thread Joseph Tainter
I've been asked to do a shoot of some historical sites but there is a 
catch.

1. The client wants full ownership rights to the images. Ie I won't be
able to use the shots for any other purpose.

-

Serious question: In such a situation, what would prevent you from 
taking two identical digital frames of each shot, providing one to the 
client and keeping the second for yourself? If there was ever a 
question, the exif information would show that the image you supplied to 
the client was different from the one you kept for yourself.

Joe

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Re: Asked to do a wedding.

2007-01-24 Thread Jack Davis
:-))

J
--- William Robb [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

 
 - Original Message - 
 From: J and K Messervy Subject: Asked to do a wedding.
 
 
 I have been asked whether I'd be interested in photographing the
 wedding of
  the brother of an acquaintance.
 
  Any and all tips, tricks and advice would be greatly appreciated!
 
 From an email I sent to an aquaintance who is breaking into the
 game..
 
 
 Wedding photography is as stressful as you care to make it.
 I tend to make it pretty stressful myself.
 
 Some things I discovered that helped alleviate this:
 
 They have a pretty even chance of being divorced within a few years,
 so
 the photography is about as disposable as a used car.
 You may as well charge like a Rolls Royce, the pictures won't be
 around
 long enough to prove they are a Chevette.
 
 The brides mother is going to hate the pictures no matter what. She
 already hates the asshole that her daughter chose to fall in love
 with,
 and will transfer this loathing onto the pictures.
 Don't worry about it, it's not a battle that can be won.
 Don't fight it.
 Take the opportunity to turn daughter against mother, instead.
 
 If you have to, point out that this is the father of her grandchild.
 
 Remember what the truly important pictures are, and get them.
 Pictures of the bride and groom together are not necessarily the most
 important in the long haul.
 
 Generally, it is the family portraits. Make sure you get family
 portraits of just the grooms family, and just the brides family.
 Weddings are about families.
 
 Hedge your bets and go with blood, not law or religion.
 
 William Robb 
 
 
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Re: PESO - Flying

2007-01-24 Thread ann sanfedele
I think this is one of those photos that holds up for what it is under a 
variety of crops...
which basically gets down to why bother cropping :)

A nice birder's magazine shot , Bruce

ann

Bruce Dayton wrote:

Many thanks to all who have replied.  It seems that most of you feel
like me in that there is context that needs to be preserved.  I have
tried Kenneth's suggested crop here and I think it works pretty well.
It gets rid of some of the empty sky without losing the context, I
think.

http://www.daytonphoto.com/PAW/bkd_4280a.htm

Original

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Re: Lenses stolen

2007-01-24 Thread Eactivist
In a message dated 1/24/2007 8:18:13 AM Pacific Standard Time, 
[EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:
Bo-Ming Tong


 Odd.  That guy is a well-respected member of a number of lists/forums.

Yeah, he produced the first real Pentax FAQ, back in the day, and I am
pretty sure he hung out here for a while.

-

The name sounds like a guy who once worked for Pentax Canada, and in the 
early 90s posted a description of the differences between F and FA lenses.

Joe

Then maybe he died or something. And his heirs are computer illiterate and 
haven't checked his email. Or he has no heirs.

One can't assume when someone disappears from the Net or some area of the 
Net, like a forum, that one knows what is actually going on in real life.

Sometimes people get too cyber in their thinking. 

Marnie aka Doe ;-)

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Re: Opportunity or Rip Off ? Advice Solicited

2007-01-24 Thread pnstenquist
I would guess that what this client is saying is that he wants to purchase 
exclusive rights to that particular visual. You can always keep a copy of the 
image -- without having to shoot more frames -- although I can't imagine 
shooting only one frame on any job. But regardless of how many frames you 
shoot, you can't sell the image again if you agreed that you would not.
Paul
 -- Original message --
From: Joseph Tainter [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 I've been asked to do a shoot of some historical sites but there is a 
 catch.
 
 1. The client wants full ownership rights to the images. Ie I won't be
 able to use the shots for any other purpose.
 
 -
 
 Serious question: In such a situation, what would prevent you from 
 taking two identical digital frames of each shot, providing one to the 
 client and keeping the second for yourself? If there was ever a 
 question, the exif information would show that the image you supplied to 
 the client was different from the one you kept for yourself.
 
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Re: OT- eBay

2007-01-24 Thread Kostas Kavoussanakis
On Wed, 24 Jan 2007, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

 The rules I deleted were yours and yours alone. Ebay has no specific policy 
 in regard to feedback timing or sequence.

There was an ebay URL there as well; I promise I did not hack into 
that site.

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Re: Opportunity or Rip Off ? Advice Solicited

2007-01-24 Thread Mark Roberts
Joseph Tainter wrote:

Serious question: In such a situation, what would prevent you from 
taking two identical digital frames of each shot, providing one to the 
client and keeping the second for yourself? If there was ever a 
question, the exif information would show that the image you supplied 
to 
the client was different from the one you kept for yourself.

If the images are substantially similar, it's just as much a violation 
of copyright even if they aren't absolutely identical. One court case I 
studied involved a photographer who was approached to license one of 
his photos for a CD booklet or cover. His rates were too high for the 
record company so they hired another photographer to go out and 
essentially duplicate the shot. After the CD went on sale the first 
photographer sued and won.

You *really* don't want to mess with shady stuff like this.

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Re: Moral dilemma

2007-01-24 Thread Charles Robinson
On Jan 23, 2007, at 17:12, Cotty wrote:

 On 23/1/07, Charles Robinson, discombobulated, unleashed:

 While I'm not sure I'd take pictures of the BODY, I would document
 the scene around my house/apartment if such a thing occurred.
 Simply because that is what I do with a camera - record events.  And
 that, while a bummer, is definitely an event.

 Charles, am I given to understand that you keep a supply of body  
 bags in
 your apartment ? Sounds like their's a few piling up in there  
 buddy ;-)


I guess when I said around my house/apartment I was referring to  
the landscape OUTSIDE of the residence, not IN it.

Smart-aleck!

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Re: PESO - Flying

2007-01-24 Thread Bruce Dayton
Thanks Ann, glad you liked it.

-- 
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Wednesday, January 24, 2007, 8:14:03 AM, you wrote:

as I think this is one of those photos that holds up for what it is under a
as variety of crops...
as which basically gets down to why bother cropping :)

as A nice birder's magazine shot , Bruce

as ann

as Bruce Dayton wrote:

Many thanks to all who have replied.  It seems that most of you feel
like me in that there is context that needs to be preserved.  I have
tried Kenneth's suggested crop here and I think it works pretty well.
It gets rid of some of the empty sky without losing the context, I
think.

http://www.daytonphoto.com/PAW/bkd_4280a.htm

Original

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Re: Lenses stolen

2007-01-24 Thread Cotty
Just had this through:



Just to follow up on this, it seems that the matter is being cleared up. 
There is a thread on fredmiranda.com where Bo-Ting has posted a response.

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Re: PESO - Norwegian Door

2007-01-24 Thread Godfrey DiGiorgi
 http://foto.no/cgi-bin/bildekritikk/vis_bilde.cgi?id=283279

 I like it, but it's kinda strange. I would not expect to see a door
 lying on the ground, nor a bunch of dried leaves mixed with grass
 behind a closed door. If I think about it, it doesn't make any sense,
 and the strangeness of the juxtaposition is what strikes me. It has a
 strong visual impact.

I went back and looked at it again as I like the idea, some of the  
work I'm in progress on right now is on a similar visual concept.  
It's the strangeness of the juxtaposition that creates an interesting  
expression and is worth spending some time to study and react to.

The tonal values are very good, particularly in the subtleties in  
white of the door. Nice job!

Godfrey

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Re: Moral dilemma

2007-01-24 Thread Cotty
On 24/1/07, Charles Robinson, discombobulated, unleashed:

I guess when I said around my house/apartment I was referring to  
the landscape OUTSIDE of the residence, not IN it.

Charles, if you've got a busy life inside your apartment, that's fine by
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Re: Opportunity or Rip Off ? Advice Solicited

2007-01-24 Thread graywolf
Tear sheets should be a demand that goes with any sale. Tear sheets are 
better than portfolio shots because they have obviously been paid for 
and published.



[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 In a message dated 1/24/2007 7:21:07 AM Pacific Standard Time, 
 [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:
 Regards
 
 Patrick Genovese
 
 I am not a professional photographer but I'd have real problems with not 
 being able to show at least one photo/image in my portfolio. I think you 
 should 
 insist on that. Say you won't sell them again, but in the future you need to 
 be 
 able to show one or more to others to show what you can do and that someone 
 paid you to do it.
 
 I expect the professionals have some recommendations on how to word that. 
 
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Re: Lenses stolen

2007-01-24 Thread K.Takeshita
On 1/24/07 11:16 AM, Joseph Tainter, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

 The name sounds like a guy who once worked for Pentax Canada

I think he is a different guy.  IIRC, his name was something like Coon and
was a service person out of Pentax Vancouver.

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Re: Interest in developing a software around photograhy?

2007-01-24 Thread Godfrey DiGiorgi
Java is an interesting solution to cross platform implementation  
language, but a can of worms in many ways. Java language interpreters  
installed on client systems seems to be all over the map version- 
wise, which affects compatibility, features, portability, etc.  
Writing and testing Java code gets complicated for this reason, and  
it doesn't save you from much effort if you want to produce an  
application which looks and works well for each particular OS platform.

I have several commercially available applications written in Java.  
Only one or two of them are what I'd consider to be really good, the  
others do their job but are clunky for one reason or another.

There's much more reason to write in Java for server-side  
applications, where the number of installations is much lower and the  
system administrators are knowledgeable enough to install and  
configure the correct version of the language interpreter.

(I worked for Sun Microsystems for a couple of years in the Java  
development team doing licensee support, before my final stint at  
Apple working with the development tools team... I've seen the worst  
and the best of all of it.)

G

On Jan 23, 2007, at 11:47 PM, Boris Liberman wrote:

 Thibouille, if you want easy way of this burden, you may want to learn
 Java. If you know C++/Delphi, it will not be much of a problem.  
 Then you
 can write your GUI and interface with OS low level in Java which
 theoretically should be cross platform.

 Otherwise, if you want to stick to C++, then what Godfrey suggested  
 is a
 good idea, but it will require from you to keep in mind this original
 consideration of clean processing code and two additional layers of OS
 and GUI outside your processing. It is a challenge, but if you are  
 after
 educational/academic program, then perhaps it is a bit of an over  
 strain.

 I am not sure you ever mentioned your time frame. I still think that
 all-Java option needs to be considered seriously.

 Cheers.

 Boris



 Thibouille wrote:
 List weirdness I got your response to Godfrey message, got followinf
 Godfrey message but notthe first one to which your reponded... :|

 All those are pretty interesting idea I have to admit :)

 Now, choice of programming language and envrionment will be harder.
 I have no experience in Java (but it looks like it should be doable).
 I'm more C++/Delphi. Graphical library for the GUI part will also be
 tricky.

 Any recommendation for a Win/OSX/Linux (or at least Win/Linux)  
 environment?
 I know Delphi/Kylix and BuilderX but none of those will allow OSX  
 development.




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OT: help with - ugh - web site made using FRONT PAGE -

2007-01-24 Thread ann sanfedele
Ok techies, can you tell me how - or rather - tell the woman who used 
front page to build the site,
what to do to correct the wrinkles' in my logo design for the 2007 
(Scrabble) Players Championship.

When you view the site, the image has, as you see, wrinkles kinda on 
logo especially on the Scrabble tiles
when I click on the logo jpg file ito view it only, it looks fine

Can you write me really simple instructions for her on how to correct 
it? or is there not a way to do it?
I don't use or know how to use front page but I'm guessing it isn't 
working because the specs are
placing the image in a set boundary line and therefore slightly changing 
it.  

Here is the link:

http://www.pc07.org/

Thanks for any help

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Re: Opportunity or Rip Off ? Advice Solicited

2007-01-24 Thread pnstenquist
Nowadays most pubs send you a PDF of the page layout. Other clients should be 
willing to do the same. The PDF is even better than a tear sheet because you 
can print it on good photo paper.
Paul
 -- Original message --
From: graywolf [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 Tear sheets should be a demand that goes with any sale. Tear sheets are 
 better than portfolio shots because they have obviously been paid for 
 and published.
 
 
 
 [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
  In a message dated 1/24/2007 7:21:07 AM Pacific Standard Time, 
  [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:
  Regards
  
  Patrick Genovese
  
  I am not a professional photographer but I'd have real problems with not 
  being able to show at least one photo/image in my portfolio. I think you 
 should 
  insist on that. Say you won't sell them again, but in the future you need 
  to 
 be 
  able to show one or more to others to show what you can do and that someone 
  paid you to do it.
  
  I expect the professionals have some recommendations on how to word that. 
  
  Marnie aka Doe 
  
 
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Re: OT- eBay

2007-01-24 Thread graywolf
 From one of my ads:

--

THE FINE PRINT

WARRANTY: The only warranty is that the item is as described above, and 
shown in the photos. Winner must notify me withing 7 days of any 
discrepancies, after that the sale is final.

RESERVE: I have set a reasonable reserve of $xxx which is well below 
what these * have been selling for.

PAYMENT: PayPal is the preferred payment method. However, a Certified 
check or USPS Money Order is acceptable.

SHIPPING: Flat rate, which makes the total price of all bids equal, 
shipping will be by Insured USPS Priority Mail, thus to the US only.

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I think that it is reasonable to wait those 7 days before leaving 
feedback, don't you guys?

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RE: A warning about mail filtering

2007-01-24 Thread Y. Rowe
I'll have you know that I switched from digest to individual so that I would
have the privilege of using my filter. It's actually the first time I've
actually kill-filed someone in all the years I've surfed and played in
cyberspace. 

To quote a television commercial from the 1970...Oh, what a relief it is!
YIPPEE!

Yolanda


 Mark Roberts wrote:
 Really? Anything (anyone) in particular you want to filter? Evil Grin
 
 David J Brooks wrote in response to Cotty:
 
 Hell, i;'d be happy to get the dam thing to actually filter something./
 
 Cotty wrote in response to Boris:
 
  Live by the sword, die by the sword!!
 
  On 19/1/07, Boris Liberman, discombobulated, unleashed:
 
  Ladies and gentlemen, as of now it happened several times: the e-mail
  I sent out or I received from fellow PDMLers ended up either in my 
  spam folder or marked as spam by GMail filtering. It did not happen 
  too many times, but it indeed took place.
 
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Re: test

2007-01-24 Thread Kristian-H. Schüssler
rg2 [EMAIL PROTECTED] schrieb:
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Re: OT: help with - ugh - web site made using FRONT PAGE -

2007-01-24 Thread Perry Pellechia
Interesting, looks OK one of my system: Mac OSX 10.4, Firefox 3.0
Alfa, but on my XP box running Firefox 2 I can see what you are
talking about.  I think Frontpage is creating a web page that is
resizing of the image, i.e., displaying it at a percent of the full
size.  The browser is then doing the resize which can make it look
poor.  If she wants to fix this you should resize the image in PS, or
another image processing program and make sure that Frontpage displays
the image at 100%.




On 1/24/07, ann sanfedele [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 Ok techies, can you tell me how - or rather - tell the woman who used
 front page to build the site,
 what to do to correct the wrinkles' in my logo design for the 2007
 (Scrabble) Players Championship.

 When you view the site, the image has, as you see, wrinkles kinda on
 logo especially on the Scrabble tiles
 when I click on the logo jpg file ito view it only, it looks fine

 Can you write me really simple instructions for her on how to correct
 it? or is there not a way to do it?
 I don't use or know how to use front page but I'm guessing it isn't
 working because the specs are
 placing the image in a set boundary line and therefore slightly changing
 it.

 Here is the link:

 http://www.pc07.org/

 Thanks for any help

 ann




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Re: Interest in developing a software around photograhy?

2007-01-24 Thread Boris Liberman
Godfrey, my point being that Java can be used in order to create 
*reasonably* portable and *reasonably* cross platform code. After all 
we're talking educational project here, not fully blown industrial 
development effort.

I agree with your analysis, but in order for Thibouille to concentrate 
on the problem in hand and not on surrounding technical issues (which 
are more valid for commercial project rather than for educational one) I 
think Java will do nicely.

And again, I agree with what you're saying ;-).

Boris

Godfrey DiGiorgi wrote:
 Java is an interesting solution to cross platform implementation  
 language, but a can of worms in many ways. Java language interpreters  
 installed on client systems seems to be all over the map version- 
 wise, which affects compatibility, features, portability, etc.  
 Writing and testing Java code gets complicated for this reason, and  
 it doesn't save you from much effort if you want to produce an  
 application which looks and works well for each particular OS platform.
 
 I have several commercially available applications written in Java.  
 Only one or two of them are what I'd consider to be really good, the  
 others do their job but are clunky for one reason or another.
 
 There's much more reason to write in Java for server-side  
 applications, where the number of installations is much lower and the  
 system administrators are knowledgeable enough to install and  
 configure the correct version of the language interpreter.
 
 (I worked for Sun Microsystems for a couple of years in the Java  
 development team doing licensee support, before my final stint at  
 Apple working with the development tools team... I've seen the worst  
 and the best of all of it.)


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PESO: Hope is a thing with Feathers

2007-01-24 Thread ann sanfedele

http://www.photo.net/photodb/photo?photo_id=5498964

posted one more shot from my Nora project

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FW: 回覆: Re: [Contax] Stolen contax le nses !! some hope

2007-01-24 Thread Bob W
This is a reply by Bo-Ming Tong that was posted to the Contax list
Bob

-Original Message-
From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
com] On Behalf Of Bo-Ming Tong
Sent: 24 January 2007 19:30
To: The Contax Mailing List
Subject: 回覆: Re: [Contax] Stolen contax lenses !! some hope

mehrdad,

I just joined this list. lotusm50 kindly helped me by
letting me know I got into trouble here.

I am very deeply concerned that my personal
information such as my home address (I had a home
office) got posted publicly everywhere. This is a
mailing list and by now my personal information sits
on the hard drives on thousands of computers
worldwide. This list may be archived, and there are
other web sites which archives other archives. We are
compounding this problem by keeping on replying to
this, so I am cutting off my own personal information
from this email thread. Would everyone please do the
same when you reply.

Please click on this auction:
http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItemitem=280073141540

The serial number of the lens I am selling, as shown
in the second picture in the Item Description, is
12683140. It does NOT match mehrdad's 12682351. I am
deeply concerned that the final price of my auction
would be impacted by the negative publicity this has
generated.

mehrdad, I will certainly do a good job modifying all
your 6 lenses and returning all to you, but I have
lost my privacy COMPLETELY because of what you did.
What have I done so wrong that I deserved this? It is
just not responding to your emails over ONE weekend.

I am a very busy person. I admit that I could have
been more responsive to emails, but that is because I
have a daytime job and the lens conversions take up
the rest of my time. I work long hours everyday, 7
days a week. I cannot give up my daytime job to focus
on the lens conversions because I have a mortgage to
pay - I need stable income and job security which the
lens conversions do not offer. I am already stretched
very thin. Your emails did not appear urgent as you
were only asking for status updates. Of course, I now
deeply regret it, because 30 seconds of time would
have avoided all the damages inflicted on me right
now.

I know your address, too. If I were to post _your_
address everywhere like this, what would you have felt
like?

I will take pictures of your lenses after they are
modified before they are sent back to you, and post
them on this list. The lenses all have serial numbers,
but you have already disclosed those yourself, so I
would not be infringing your privacy by doing so.

I suffered financial losses from lower auction price
and lower sales because my reputation is tarnished by
a libel. In order to put together a civil suit, I only
need to establish that 1, the remarks were published,
and 2, the remarks were defamatory.

On your side, your defense would be truth, but there
would be no way you could prove I stole your lenses,
especially after I have converted them and ship them
back to you. I reserve the right to recover damages
and losses.

Bo-Ming

--- Mj [EMAIL PROTECTED] �f:

 Mehrad
 
 If I may add my comments on Bo-Ming Tong. I have
 already received 2
 converters from him. So no problem there. I have
 found that communications
 with him can be patchy. He has a day job and has
 developed the converters
 using his own time and money over a period of about
 2 years. Quite some
 investment. He says he works about 100 hrs a week so
 he is living and
 breathing work of one form or another. So I would
 imaging that given the
 interest generated by his product that he must be
 run ragged and quite
 stressed. I find it frustrating that he takes ages
 to answer emails but
 given his circumstances I am much more forgiving
 than I would be if it were
 a more comercial outfit In creating the
 converters he has given hope to
 a lot of very frustrated N lens users and judging by
 the results I have had
 it is well worth the wait.
 
 Everyone that has made their opinion of him know has
 sofar whether it be on
 a forum or email has had nothing but praise of his
 intergrity and honesty.
 
 
 I am glad you have had a response from him I
 sincerely hope you find your
 lenses safe and sound.
 
 
 
 Mark
 
 -Original Message-
 From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] 
 [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of
 mehrdad
 Sent: 24 January 2007 17:46
 To: The Contax Mailing List
 Subject: Re: [Contax] Stolen contax lenses !! some
 hope
 
 he has contacted me and i now have his phone
 number. let's see if i
 can turn this around, all i wanted was to convert
 my n mounts to eos
 mount
 
 On 1/24/07, Austin Franklin
 [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
  Hi,
 
  Akil was asking if that lense on eBay was your
 lense, and I 
 didn't believe
  it was.  You were only showing that auction to
 show his eBay 
 ID.  Am I
  correct?
 
  Regards,
 
  Austin
 
   -Original Message-
   From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
   [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Behalf
 Of mehrdad
   Sent: Tuesday, January 23, 2007 

Re: OT: help with - ugh - web site made using FRONT PAGE -

2007-01-24 Thread ann sanfedele


Perry Pellechia wrote:

Interesting, looks OK one of my system: Mac OSX 10.4, Firefox 3.0
Alfa, but on my XP box running Firefox 2 I can see what you are
talking about.  I think Frontpage is creating a web page that is
resizing of the image,

I thought it was doing that slightly by putting in borders...

 i.e., displaying it at a percent of the full
size.  The browser is then doing the resize which can make it look
poor.  If she wants to fix this you should resize the image in PS, or
another image processing program and make sure that Frontpage displays
the image at 100%.
  


I looked at it in explorer just now and it was still funky - then I 
clicked on properties
saw then on the image, and saw how much it had been reduced... more than 
it looked
like to me at first.  so I sent her another file newly created from my 
master using the
size she had scaled to on the vertical side (434 pixels) -

That should do it.  - thought I don't think it will be high on her list 
of things to do right yet.

thanks much for your help

ann







On 1/24/07, ann sanfedele [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
  

Ok techies, can you tell me how - or rather - tell the woman who used
front page to build the site,
what to do to correct the wrinkles' in my logo design for the 2007
(Scrabble) Players Championship.

When you view the site, the image has, as you see, wrinkles kinda on
logo especially on the Scrabble tiles
when I click on the logo jpg file ito view it only, it looks fine

Can you write me really simple instructions for her on how to correct
it? or is there not a way to do it?
I don't use or know how to use front page but I'm guessing it isn't
working because the specs are
placing the image in a set boundary line and therefore slightly changing
it.

Here is the link:

http://www.pc07.org/

Thanks for any help

ann




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RE: Asked to do a wedding.

2007-01-24 Thread Bob W
If somebody offered me the choice between photographing another
wedding, and rolling around naked in an open plague pit whilst licking
a leprous dog's bottom, I would choose the plague pit every time.

--
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 Behalf Of J and K Messervy
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 Subject: Asked to do a wedding.
 
 I have been asked whether I'd be interested in photographing 
 the wedding of 
 the brother of an acquaintance.
 
[...]
 
 I know there are people with pro experience on here, so I'm 
 looking for 
 advice, tips, etc.
 
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Re: PESO: Hope is a thing with Feathers

2007-01-24 Thread pnstenquist
Pretty shot. Interesting as well. And I LOVE the title. It would go great on 
the cover of  your next novel :-).
Paul
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 http://www.photo.net/photodb/photo?photo_id=5498964
 
 posted one more shot from my Nora project
 
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K10D RAW convertion.

2007-01-24 Thread Jens Bladt

Phase One just told me that the support for the K10D RAW files won't come
until April 2007 - LE version 3.7.7

What do you guys do?

Jens Bladt

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Re: PESO: Hope is a thing with Feathers

2007-01-24 Thread ann sanfedele
Title belongs to Emily Dickenson - I wouldn't poach :)
Glad you liked the pic

ann ..
off to see Dream Girls then cooking dinner for a friend

see ya later



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Pretty shot. Interesting as well. And I LOVE the title. It would go great on 
the cover of  your next novel :-).
Paul
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From: ann sanfedele [EMAIL PROTECTED]
  

http://www.photo.net/photodb/photo?photo_id=5498964

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