PESO: Lunch Break (QTVR Pano)
G'day All, Hope this finds you warm dry. (~390kb): http://www.arach.net.au/~savage/Misc/0038.mov ;-) It's kinda funky what the polariser did. Almost looks like night time to me. Cheers, Dave -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: OT: Cheese Problems Solved
Wrong boutique. From: P. J. Alling [EMAIL PROTECTED] Date: 2008/02/24 Sun PM 11:14:14 GMT To: Pentax-Discuss Mail List pdml@pdml.net Subject: Re: OT: Cheese Problems Solved Stilton? David J Brooks wrote: I;m afraid we're all out of Cheddar. Dave On Sun, Feb 24, 2008 at 6:27 AM, Bob W [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: http://www.thebookseller.com/news/53656-oddest-book-titles-prize-short list-announced.html -- Bob -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions. -- Vote for Cthulhu. Why settle for a lesser evil... -- Dr. Jerry Pournelle -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions. - Email sent from www.virginmedia.com/email Virus-checked using McAfee(R) Software and scanned for spam -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: Need info on K10D AF vs. MZ-S
Boris Liberman escribió: Carlos, I agree with Godfrey to that end that the precision of exposure matters more and more as ISO grows. Generally I shoot between ISO 100 and ISO 320. I used to avoid ISO 640 and up but most recent shooting during that rock show proved me wrong. I have received some quite good shots IQ-wise. It also depends on the mastery of post-processing, which of course is a limitless sky. Thanks Boris and Godfrey for your comments on high ISO and the K10D. I sometimes use ISO 800 (and sparsely 1600) with the DS when I'm shooting indoors in order to get enough shutter speed to avoid camera shake. Results at 800 are really good, the DS shines at that ISO speed, and they are good at 1600 if correctly exposed like you say. The K10D has the advantage to allow the user to select the ISO speed in finer steps, and that sounds attractive to me. I am more and more inclined to get a K10D because know it can be bought new at very good prices, in fact it is the biggest bargain in the market now, in my view. It won't be as hot as the K20D, but I think it may serve me well in the years to come. Carlos -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
RE: K20D back focus
The difference between IR focus and visible wavelength focus is not constant from lens to lens. Different designs of the same focal length can have different IR focus corrections, and the correction is not necessarily proportional when comparing lenses of different focal lengths. UV transmission in any significant degree requires exotic glass so isn't normally a consideration. I know nothing about the spectral characteristics of Pentax's AF sensors; perhaps you have guessed that IR contamination is the cause of the problem. It sounds feasible. Regards, Anthony Farr -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Bob Sullivan Sent: Monday, 25 February 2008 4:21 PM To: PDML Subject: K20D back focus Reading the promo literature on the K20D, I noticed a new feature. The camera has the ability to store adjustments for backfocus (or forward) for 20 lenses. The claim is that all the DA lenses are fine, but others may need adjusting. Any ideas on why this might be? Do some lenses transmit more of the right wavelength light for focusing? I am puzzled as to the physics/mechanics of this. Regards, Bob S. -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: K20D back focus
From: Bob Sullivan [EMAIL PROTECTED] Reading the promo literature on the K20D, I noticed a new feature. The camera has the ability to store adjustments for backfocus (or forward) for 20 lenses. The claim is that all the DA lenses are fine, but others may need adjusting. Any ideas on why this might be? Do some lenses transmit more of the right wavelength light for focusing? I am puzzled as to the physics/mechanics of this. I am beginning to suspect that the focus plane required for sensors is much tighter than that for film and that lenses that would have been fine on replaceable medium do not now have the quality control required for good focus. Combined with an uncertain condition due to age and wear and tear, it may be that many lenses do not have the ability to focus properly on the sensor. This will of course, mean that it is individual lenses (although there may be model traits) that require to either be adjusted to suit the sensor or have the sensor placed into a suitable position. As the sensor can be easily adjusted to compensate that seems to be the logical suggestion, rather than a major service on each lens - which would then only make them suitable for one particular body. I'm not sure which is Mo' and which is the mountain in this scenario. I also still can't work out why one lens should appear to focus properly in the viewfinder yet not on the sensor and another focuses fine on both. - Email sent from www.virginmedia.com/email Virus-checked using McAfee(R) Software and scanned for spam -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: K20D back focus
Anthony Farr escribió: The difference between IR focus and visible wavelength focus is not constant from lens to lens. Different designs of the same focal length can have different IR focus corrections, and the correction is not necessarily proportional when comparing lenses of different focal lengths. UV transmission in any significant degree requires exotic glass so isn't normally a consideration. I know nothing about the spectral characteristics of Pentax's AF sensors; perhaps you have guessed that IR contamination is the cause of the problem. It sounds feasible. AFAIK, the AF sensors in Pentax SLRs (and other brands too) have a built-in IR filter. It is clearly shown in the AF sensor schematics in Bojidar Dimitrov's K mount page: http://www.bdimitrov.de/kmp/technology/AF/index.html (that is the SAFOX IV sensor). Carlos -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
RE: K20D back focus
The early Pentax DSLRs had IR cutoff filters in front of their imaging sensors that nevertheless transmitted enough near IR light to make a useful IR exposure with an R-72 or similar filter. Can you assert that the IR cutoff filter over the AF sensor is more absolute in its prohibition of IR light than the filter above the imager? If not, my suspicion about IR contamination of the AF system is not answered. Regards, Anthony Farr -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Carlos Royo Sent: Monday, 25 February 2008 8:14 PM AFAIK, the AF sensors in Pentax SLRs (and other brands too) have a built-in IR filter. It is clearly shown in the AF sensor schematics in Bojidar Dimitrov's K mount page: http://www.bdimitrov.de/kmp/technology/AF/index.html (that is the SAFOX IV sensor). Carlos -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Why I like this list
I've been having dalliances with a few other photo lists lately (new camera systems you know). Thought I'd just mention why I love it here. You guys here love a good photo. Up to a point, equipment debates are interesting (and I'm as guilty as any other), but once you spend more time niggling about l/mm, corner sharpness, CA, noise levels, fpm and alike, instead of taking piccies, it gets dull quickly. The collegial feel, the classlessness, the willingness to help the just-starting-out...so rare in the outside world. In the end, connecting with others is really the aim of the game in the end, isn't it? I don't comment on all the photos that come across the list, but it doesn't mean I don't appreciate them. PESOs, PAWs, GESOs, keep 'em coming. Forgive me for straying. D -- [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://members.iinet.net.au/~derbyc -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: K20D back focus
I think it's more likely that the sensor's focus plane is more accurate rather than tighter than that of film. The focal point is the focal point. And since film is somewhat curved, it can never be totally accurate. Paul On Feb 25, 2008, at 3:58 AM, mike wilson wrote: From: Bob Sullivan [EMAIL PROTECTED] Reading the promo literature on the K20D, I noticed a new feature. The camera has the ability to store adjustments for backfocus (or forward) for 20 lenses. The claim is that all the DA lenses are fine, but others may need adjusting. Any ideas on why this might be? Do some lenses transmit more of the right wavelength light for focusing? I am puzzled as to the physics/mechanics of this. I am beginning to suspect that the focus plane required for sensors is much tighter than that for film and that lenses that would have been fine on replaceable medium do not now have the quality control required for good focus. Combined with an uncertain condition due to age and wear and tear, it may be that many lenses do not have the ability to focus properly on the sensor. This will of course, mean that it is individual lenses (although there may be model traits) that require to either be adjusted to suit the sensor or have the sensor placed into a suitable position. As the sensor can be easily adjusted to compensate that seems to be the logical suggestion, rather than a major service on each lens - which would then only make them suitable for one particular body. I'm not sure which is Mo' and which is the mountain in this scenario. I also still can't work out why one lens should appear to focus properly in the viewfinder yet not on the sensor and another focuses fine on both. - Email sent from www.virginmedia.com/email Virus-checked using McAfee(R) Software and scanned for spam -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions. -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: Why I like this list
Amen. More than any other forum that I've seen, the PDML seems to remember that the cental purpose of photography is producing a good photograph and not resolving charts. It's nice to have equipment discussions and image criticism from the same people. I learn much from the technical discussions but even ore from the photos. Derby Chang [EMAIL PROTECTED] 2/25/2008 5:34 AM I've been having dalliances with a few other photo lists lately (new camera systems you know). Thought I'd just mention why I love it here. You guys here love a good photo. Up to a point, equipment debates are interesting (and I'm as guilty as any other), but once you spend more time niggling about l/mm, corner sharpness, CA, noise levels, fpm and alike, instead of taking piccies, it gets dull quickly. The collegial feel, the classlessness, the willingness to help the just-starting-out...so rare in the outside world. In the end, connecting with others is really the aim of the game in the end, isn't it? I don't comment on all the photos that come across the list, but it doesn't mean I don't appreciate them. PESOs, PAWs, GESOs, keep 'em coming. Forgive me for straying. D -- [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://members.iinet.net.au/~derbyc -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions. !SIG:47c29a4d69101332336657! -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
GESO - Serbian Demonstration
A counterpoint to Bob's gallery last week showing the joy of ex-pat Kosovonians (?) in London. On Saturday in Toronto, Serbs demonstrated in front the the American Consulate. I happened to be walking in the area, and happened to have my camera. The mood was somewhat less ebulent: http://tinyurl.com/2q7dup http://bp2.blogger.com/_EaTEtfR4WJw/R8LDyEgqgVI/BiU/S_lAubZ4Vbw/s1600-h/feb_25_08+003.jpg http://tinyurl.com/34aw3j http://bp0.blogger.com/_EaTEtfR4WJw/R8LF9kgqgjI/BkE/V8LI0Ar29us/s1600-h/feb_25_08+007.jpg http://tinyurl.com/35wmgp http://bp2.blogger.com/_EaTEtfR4WJw/R8LF-EgqgkI/BkM/iSQMOFc6kNI/s1600-h/feb_25_08+008.jpg http://tinyurl.com/2q7p74 http://bp2.blogger.com/_EaTEtfR4WJw/R8LGIEgqglI/BkU/KmrDAl64NOw/s1600-h/feb_25_08+009.jpg http://tinyurl.com/35v6k6 http://bp3.blogger.com/_EaTEtfR4WJw/R8LFjUgqgfI/Bjk/wh7ngHcLanw/s1600-h/feb_25_08+006.jpg http://tinyurl.com/2soodc http://bp3.blogger.com/_EaTEtfR4WJw/R8LDdUgqgUI/BiM/b8kmicxE-0Y/s1600-h/feb_25_08+005.jpg http://tinyurl.com/ytbktd http://bp3.blogger.com/_EaTEtfR4WJw/R8LGPUgqgmI/Bkc/YNc7rUiANoo/s1600-h/feb_25_08+010.jpg and, finally, I managed to find one smiling face: http://tinyurl.com/2587sl http://bp2.blogger.com/_EaTEtfR4WJw/R8LDdEgqgTI/BiE/4BRpu-kGOUo/s1600-h/feb_25_08+004.jpg Comments are always encouraged. Thanks! cheers, frank -- Sharpness is a bourgeois concept. -Henri Cartier-Bresson -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: Why I like this list
I love you man... D On Mon, Feb 25, 2008 at 7:34 PM, Derby Chang [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I've been having dalliances with a few other photo lists lately (new camera systems you know). Thought I'd just mention why I love it here. You guys here love a good photo. Up to a point, equipment debates are interesting (and I'm as guilty as any other), but once you spend more time niggling about l/mm, corner sharpness, CA, noise levels, fpm and alike, instead of taking piccies, it gets dull quickly. The collegial feel, the classlessness, the willingness to help the just-starting-out...so rare in the outside world. In the end, connecting with others is really the aim of the game in the end, isn't it? I don't comment on all the photos that come across the list, but it doesn't mean I don't appreciate them. PESOs, PAWs, GESOs, keep 'em coming. Forgive me for straying. -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: PESO: Under Construction
Mmm... nice. -T On Sun, Feb 24, 2008 at 5:49 PM, Jack Davis [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Beautifully rendered. Jack --- Paul Stenquist [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: http://photo.net/photodb/photo?photo_id=6986444size=lg -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions. Never miss a thing. Make Yahoo your home page. http://www.yahoo.com/r/hs -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions. -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: PESO: Under Construction
On Sun, Feb 24, 2008 at 5:33 PM, Paul Stenquist [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: http://photo.net/photodb/photo?photo_id=6986444size=lg I love the simplicity of it. And, as Jack said, beautifully rendered. cheers, frank -- Sharpness is a bourgeois concept. -Henri Cartier-Bresson -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: PESO - Yellow Creek
On Sun, Feb 24, 2008 at 7:35 PM, David J Brooks [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Frank and i do it the other way around.:-) Kind of. We grab beer, shoot nature, then grab more beer. Sometimes if we have enough beer, we grab beer, forget about nature, then grab more beer. We can be flexible... ;-) cheers, frank -- Sharpness is a bourgeois concept. -Henri Cartier-Bresson -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: PESO - Yellow Creek
On Sun, Feb 24, 2008 at 1:16 AM, Adam Maas [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: One of Toronto's hidden gems, this is one of the small ravines which thread their way around the downtown core of Toronto. In this case, it's the Vale of Avoca Reach of Yellow Creek, located in David A. Balfour Park south of Mt Pleasant Cemetary. There used to be a Sawmill to the left of this site. http://www.flickr.com/photos/mawz/2287080317/ Larger/Direct link: http://farm3.static.flickr.com/2175/2287080317_d1a4029b9f_b.jpg K10D, Sigma 17-70, 3 shot HDR tonemap Toronto's ravines are indeed a treasure; I'm continually amazed at how many people don't know they're there! Terrific shot, Adam. cheers, frank -- Sharpness is a bourgeois concept. -Henri Cartier-Bresson -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: GESO - Serbian Demonstration
Good work. Like the first one best. I find it ironic that a people who embraced ethnic cleansing as a solution would ascribe a swastika to Europe and the US. But that's politics for you. Paul -- Original message -- From: frank theriault [EMAIL PROTECTED] A counterpoint to Bob's gallery last week showing the joy of ex-pat Kosovonians (?) in London. On Saturday in Toronto, Serbs demonstrated in front the the American Consulate. I happened to be walking in the area, and happened to have my camera. The mood was somewhat less ebulent: http://tinyurl.com/2q7dup http://bp2.blogger.com/_EaTEtfR4WJw/R8LDyEgqgVI/BiU/S_lAubZ4Vbw/s1600-h/ feb_25_08+003.jpg http://tinyurl.com/34aw3j http://bp0.blogger.com/_EaTEtfR4WJw/R8LF9kgqgjI/BkE/V8LI0Ar29us/s1600-h/ feb_25_08+007.jpg http://tinyurl.com/35wmgp http://bp2.blogger.com/_EaTEtfR4WJw/R8LF-EgqgkI/BkM/iSQMOFc6kNI/s1600-h/ feb_25_08+008.jpg http://tinyurl.com/2q7p74 http://bp2.blogger.com/_EaTEtfR4WJw/R8LGIEgqglI/BkU/KmrDAl64NOw/s1600-h/ feb_25_08+009.jpg http://tinyurl.com/35v6k6 http://bp3.blogger.com/_EaTEtfR4WJw/R8LFjUgqgfI/Bjk/wh7ngHcLanw/s1600-h/ feb_25_08+006.jpg http://tinyurl.com/2soodc http://bp3.blogger.com/_EaTEtfR4WJw/R8LDdUgqgUI/BiM/b8kmicxE-0Y/s1600-h/ feb_25_08+005.jpg http://tinyurl.com/ytbktd http://bp3.blogger.com/_EaTEtfR4WJw/R8LGPUgqgmI/Bkc/YNc7rUiANoo/s1600-h/ feb_25_08+010.jpg and, finally, I managed to find one smiling face: http://tinyurl.com/2587sl http://bp2.blogger.com/_EaTEtfR4WJw/R8LDdEgqgTI/BiE/4BRpu-kGOUo/s1600-h/ feb_25_08+004.jpg Comments are always encouraged. Thanks! cheers, frank -- Sharpness is a bourgeois concept. -Henri Cartier-Bresson -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions. -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: PESO: Under Construction
Thanks Tim. The shape and color of the plastic caught my eye. Paul -- Original message -- From: Tim Bray [EMAIL PROTECTED] Mmm... nice. -T On Sun, Feb 24, 2008 at 5:49 PM, Jack Davis [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Beautifully rendered. Jack --- Paul Stenquist [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: http://photo.net/photodb/photo?photo_id=6986444size=lg -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions. Never miss a thing. Make Yahoo your home page. http://www.yahoo.com/r/hs -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions. -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions. -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: Why I like this list
On 25/02/08, Derby Chang, discombobulated, unleashed: I've been having dalliances with a few other photo lists lately (new camera systems you know). Thought I'd just mention why I love it here. You guys here love a good photo. Up to a point, equipment debates are interesting (and I'm as guilty as any other), but once you spend more time niggling about l/mm, corner sharpness, CA, noise levels, fpm and alike, instead of taking piccies, it gets dull quickly. The collegial feel, the classlessness, the willingness to help the just-starting-out...so rare in the outside world. In the end, connecting with others is really the aim of the game in the end, isn't it? I don't comment on all the photos that come across the list, but it doesn't mean I don't appreciate them. PESOs, PAWs, GESOs, keep 'em coming. Forgive me for straying. I've been asking for forgiveness for years! Seconded. -- Cheers, Cotty ___/\__ || (O) | People, Places, Pastiche ||=|http://www.cottysnaps.com _ -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: PESO: Lunch Break (QTVR Pano)
Brave man, a polarizer on a 360 pano! Looks good. You Ozzies have all the beach weather this time of year... 6 to 9 inches of snow coming here. Regards, Bob S. On Mon, Feb 25, 2008 at 2:21 AM, David Savage [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: G'day All, Hope this finds you warm dry. (~390kb): http://www.arach.net.au/~savage/Misc/0038.mov ;-) It's kinda funky what the polariser did. Almost looks like night time to me. Cheers, Dave -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions. -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: PESO: Under Construction
Thanks Frank. We finally had a nice weekend in Detroit. The temperature even rose above freezing briefly. A great day for a walkaround. I imagine it was quite decent by you as well. Paul -- Original message -- From: frank theriault [EMAIL PROTECTED] On Sun, Feb 24, 2008 at 5:33 PM, Paul Stenquist [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: http://photo.net/photodb/photo?photo_id=6986444size=lg I love the simplicity of it. And, as Jack said, beautifully rendered. cheers, frank -- Sharpness is a bourgeois concept. -Henri Cartier-Bresson -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions. -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: GESO Belinda Portraits
On Sat, Feb 23, 2008 at 12:48 PM, Christine Aguila [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Hi Everyone: Here are 4 informal photos of a dear friend of mine, Belinda. K10D, DA*50-135, all at 135mm, tripod mounted. We had a bit of dress-up play. Belinda 1: 1/20 @ 5.6, ISO 100 http://photo.net/photodb/photo?photo_id=6981777 Belinda 2: 1/8 @ 4.0, ISO 200 http://photo.net/photodb/photo?photo_id=6981804 Belinda 3: Heavy crop of above http://photo.net/photodb/photo?photo_id=6981841size=lg Belinda 4: 1/25 @ 4.0, ISO 280 http://photo.net/photodb/photo?photo_id=6981865size=lg I really like the first one - the lighting helps make this a lovely portrait. In the other ones, however, she doesn't seem relaxed to me. I just don't get the feeling that she's comfortable in front of the lens. By the overwhelmingly positive comments, it seems that perhaps I'm the only one that feels this way. I do like #1 a lot, though... cheers, frank -- Sharpness is a bourgeois concept. -Henri Cartier-Bresson -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: GESO - Serbian Demonstration
- Original Message - From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: GESO - Serbian Demonstration Good work. Like the first one best. I find it ironic that a people who embraced ethnic cleansing as a solution would ascribe a swastika to Europe and the US. But that's politics for you. Probably best to not go there. According to some American political commentators and historians, both Serbs and Albanians have used Ethnic Cleansing as a means to an end in that region. The UN probably made a very unwise decision when it chose to try to end the ethnic conflict by taking sides in the fight. Short sighted politics is the problem, not politics per se. William Robb -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: Film in, digital out...
Godfrey DiGiorgi wrote: I wouldn't bother with anything in a printer that doesn't use the Epson K3 inkset for BW printing, if you're using a standard driver. Nothing else I've tried is as consistent and useful. That limits you to the Epson R2400 or above, but it's well worth that limitation. That said, you can get very good results with several other printers if you use the QuadTone RIP software ($50 from Roy Harrington, see http://www.quadtonerip.com/ for details). Best thing to do, if you don't want to spend for an R2400: pick a printer from his requirements page and buy QTR. One of my goals here is to keep the digital end of things as stupidly simple as possible. The Ultratone inks, in addition to being relatively affordable, don't require any profiles or extra software, etc. I'm definitely going to give it a try before considering something like quadtone. I will take a look at his printer list. Regards scanners, the V700 cannot be beat for its price. I've measured with it carefully and find it returns about 2600-2800 ppi actual resolution, on par with my Minolta Scan Dual II and Nikon Coolscan IV dedicated film scanners. The only way to get significant improvement on that for medium format scans is a Nikon Coolscan 9000 or Imacon Flextight... I missed some significant differences between the V500 and V700, other than film format. It does seem to be the better option for a variety of reasons. Thanks, Godfrey. Much appreciated. -- Scott Loveless http://www.twosixteen.com/fivetoedsloth/ -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: GESO - Serbian Demonstration
Frank, Provocative pictures, I wonder about the history of these people, especially the young ones. I haven't seen a girl wearing a guy's highschool ring on a chain around her neck - since highschool! Regards, Bob S. http://tinyurl.com/35wmgp http://bp2.blogger.com/_EaTEtfR4WJw/R8LF-EgqgkI/BkM/iSQMOFc6kNI/s1600-h/feb_25_08+008.jpg -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: GESO - Serbian Demonstration
On Mon, Feb 25, 2008 at 9:59 AM, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Good work. Like the first one best. I find it ironic that a people who embraced ethnic cleansing as a solution would ascribe a swastika to Europe and the US. But that's politics for you. Paul Well, I had to laugh, Paul. I was chatting with one of the many cops assembled (got lots of pix of them, but chose not to show them just now) and I asked him why the Serbians chose to demonstrate in front of the American consulate. He said it was because the US chose to recognize Kosovo (Canada has been sitting on the fence on this one - probably polling as we speak to see whether there are more Serbians or Kosovonians in Canada). My response was, well, if in doubt, picket the Americans, because somewhere someone could surely blame them for something... ;-) We both laughed. Fortunately, even though people were not happy in this demo, it was non-violent and well-behaved. Thanks for your comments. cheers, frank -- Sharpness is a bourgeois concept. -Henri Cartier-Bresson -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: Film in, digital out...
Walter Hamler wrote: Scott, I am not up to speed on the newest generation of printers. I have two Epsons, 1800 and 800. They use the same cartridges so makes ink situation easier. However, both are outdated and I am finding inks difficult to get locally. Web dealers are no problem and are much cheaper anyway. One of the young salespersons at the local camera dealer has one of the newer Epsons with the latest generation of inks. He shows me prints all the time. They look no different than what I have come to expect from my older versions. He does say the newer one sucks up ink must faster than his older 1800. Ibelieve the printer manufacturers are in collusion to sell printers cheap, ink is expensive, and the technology changes every 6 to 9 months to keep the game going! :-) A friend has the Epson Photo flatbed scanner that others mention. I produces very good results. He in fact uses it to scan his Mamiya 6x7 negs (BW) and has nice 11x14's and 16x20's to prove it works well. He gets all his printing done at a regular full service lab that prints really great BW's from digital files. Darkrooms are nice, relaxing, and feed your zen, but they really aren't necessary anymore :-) Thanks, Walt! -- Scott Loveless http://www.twosixteen.com/fivetoedsloth/ -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: Film in, digital out...
David J Brooks wrote: Buy a cheese shop.?? http://www1.istockphoto.com/file_thumbview_approve/3280930/2/istockphoto_3280930_say_cheese.jpg :P -- Scott Loveless http://www.twosixteen.com/fivetoedsloth/ -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
was Re: K20D back focus
I'm most positive that Izumi Taniguchi who contributed allot to explaining tips and tricks of K10D shall cover back focus adjustments issue for K20D as soon as camera shall get on production lines. See Digiichi website here - http://www.digital.pentax.co.jp/en/special/digiichi/ One, -- K100D Super, DA10-17mm, DA16-45mm, DA50-200mm, Dörr DStudio strobes roman.blakout.net http://roman.blakout.net -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
A quick favour...
I need a second pair of eyes. I've just come back to my Red Bull Air Race pano to fix the dodgy water try and compensate for all the blue smoke in the atmosphere. If you have a moment, could you please have a look at it and give me you brutal and honest appraisal. Colour, textures, any obvious blending errors, general suggestions etc.. (~890kb) http://www.arach.net.au/~savage/Misc/Images/K10D/Pano/RBAR_002_working_crop.jpg I've been staring at it too long I'm going cross-eyed 8-/ TIA. Cheers, Dave -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: GESO - Serbian Demonstration
On Mon, Feb 25, 2008 at 10:12 AM, Bob Sullivan [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Frank, Provocative pictures, I wonder about the history of these people, especially the young ones. I haven't seen a girl wearing a guy's highschool ring on a chain around her neck - since highschool! Regards, Bob S. http://tinyurl.com/35wmgp I'm guessing that many of the younger members of the crowd may have either been born here or have been here since they were very young. They speak both languages fluently (it appears) but they speak English without an accent (okay, okay, I really mean with a Canadian accent). They're part of that huge group in this country that are really more Canadian than anything else, but they (likely due to their parents) retain strong emotional ties to the mother country. Yet, they're so Canadianized that they could never realistically go back home to live - they'd always be outsiders. It must be a very difficult position to be in. Youth seem over-represented at such rallies, but maybe that's because protesting is a youthful thing to do... cheers, frank -- Sharpness is a bourgeois concept. -Henri Cartier-Bresson -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: GESO Belinda Portraits
Christina, I think Frank is right. The first portrait is better because she is more relaxed. The others, with her bundled up, holding the top of her jacket closed are stylish, but she ends up communicating a much more severe countenance...Like my grandma is mad at me. Regards, Bob S. On Mon, Feb 25, 2008 at 9:09 AM, frank theriault [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On Sat, Feb 23, 2008 at 12:48 PM, Christine Aguila [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Hi Everyone: Here are 4 informal photos of a dear friend of mine, Belinda. K10D, DA*50-135, all at 135mm, tripod mounted. We had a bit of dress-up play. Belinda 1: 1/20 @ 5.6, ISO 100 http://photo.net/photodb/photo?photo_id=6981777 Belinda 2: 1/8 @ 4.0, ISO 200 http://photo.net/photodb/photo?photo_id=6981804 Belinda 3: Heavy crop of above http://photo.net/photodb/photo?photo_id=6981841size=lg Belinda 4: 1/25 @ 4.0, ISO 280 http://photo.net/photodb/photo?photo_id=6981865size=lg I really like the first one - the lighting helps make this a lovely portrait. In the other ones, however, she doesn't seem relaxed to me. I just don't get the feeling that she's comfortable in front of the lens. By the overwhelmingly positive comments, it seems that perhaps I'm the only one that feels this way. I do like #1 a lot, though... cheers, frank -- Sharpness is a bourgeois concept. -Henri Cartier-Bresson -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions. -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: Need info on K10D AF vs. MZ-S
Carlos, you may have not to wait too long if you wanna buy a K10D new. You are not the only one wanting to snam a pretty nice deal out of K10D lasting stock. Second hand should OK, sourcing from the guys ditching the K10D for a K20D ;) -- Thibault Massart aka Thibouille -- Photo: K10D,Z1,SuperA,KX,MX, P30t and KR-10x ;) ... Thinkpad: X23+UB,X60+UB Programing: D7 user (trying out D2007) -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: PESO: Lunch Break (QTVR Pano)
On Tue, Feb 26, 2008 at 12:01 AM, Bob Sullivan [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Brave man, a polarizer on a 360 pano! Or foolish? A little from column A, a little from column B... Looks good. Thank you sir. You Ozzies have all the beach weather this time of year... Look at the map of Australia. The whole west coat is almost all beach :-) 6 to 9 inches of snow coming here. :-( Springs not that far away Before you know it it'll be GFM time. (I soo wanna come again this year :-( ) Cheers, Dave On Mon, Feb 25, 2008 at 2:21 AM, David Savage [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: G'day All, Hope this finds you warm dry. (~390kb): http://www.arach.net.au/~savage/Misc/0038.mov ;-) It's kinda funky what the polariser did. Almost looks like night time to me. Cheers, Dave -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: Film in, digital out...
On Feb 25, 2008, at 7:18 AM, Scott Loveless wrote: One of my goals here is to keep the digital end of things as stupidly simple as possible. The Ultratone inks, in addition to being relatively affordable, don't require any profiles or extra software, etc. I'm definitely going to give it a try before considering something like quadtone. I will take a look at his printer list. Scott, Glad to help. Unfortunately, stupidly simple generally doesn't produce the best results, which are what I'm after. QuadTone RIP makes it as simple as possible to get good consistent BW without fussing around, IMO. That's what a RIP does. Before I had the R2400, I used the MIS inks (both in an Epson 1160 and a 1270 ... still have the 1270). I didn't get results that I'd show anyone until I used them with QTR. Happily, the R2400's inkset and driver obviates the need for the RIP. Simple to the point of practically useful, consistent and effective, and not overly expensive, are good goals. My print workflow is now very simple to execute and very consistent. it involves using the Eye One Display 2 screen calibration/profiling utility, Lightroom, the R2400 printer, one of three papers and their associated ICC profiles. I don't have to second guess anything, I never think twice about making a print, and I don't waste paper and ink. That means a lot when you want to use good paper which costs $4.50 a sheet, and $3 in ink ... ! Godfrey -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: A quick favour...
Dave, I don't see a thing wrong with this pano. May be others will have different mileage than me though... Boris -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: PESO: Lunch Break (QTVR Pano)
On Mon, Feb 25, 2008 at 3:21 AM, David Savage [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: G'day All, Hope this finds you warm dry. (~390kb): http://www.arach.net.au/~savage/Misc/0038.mov ;-) It's kinda funky what the polariser did. Almost looks like night time to me. Cheers, I'm not ignoring you, Dave, but my work computer doesn't know what to do with your file, and neither do I, so I can't open it just now... cheers, frank -- Sharpness is a bourgeois concept. -Henri Cartier-Bresson -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: GESO: Today :D
(Sigh. If only it were a cormorant...) ;-) ...Or a cat... Kenneth Waller http://www.tinyurl.com/272u2f - Original Message - From: Mark Roberts [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: GESO: Today :D Paul Stenquist wrote: On Feb 24, 2008, at 5:21 PM, Cotty wrote: On 24/02/08, Timber, discombobulated, unleashed: http://www.pbase.com/timbercode/image/93375973 That is one superb picture of a duck. Excellent. What Cotty said. Great shooting. Beautiful rendering. Indeed. Really splendid. (Sigh. If only it were a cormorant...) ;-) -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions. -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: PESO: Lunch Break (QTVR Pano)
- Original Message - From: frank theriault Subject: Re: PESO: Lunch Break (QTVR Pano) On Mon, Feb 25, 2008 at 3:21 AM, David Savage [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: G'day All, Hope this finds you warm dry. (~390kb): http://www.arach.net.au/~savage/Misc/0038.mov ;-) It's kinda funky what the polariser did. Almost looks like night time to me. Cheers, I'm not ignoring you, Dave, but my work computer doesn't know what to do with your file, and neither do I, so I can't open it just now... Download and install Quicktime from Apple. William Robb -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: A quick favour...
Looks good on my monitor. Is this a crop or a stitch? Steven Desjardins Department of Chemistry Washington and Lee University Lexington, VA 24450 (540) 458-8873 FAX: (540) 458-8878 [EMAIL PROTECTED] David Savage [EMAIL PROTECTED] 2/25/2008 10:21 AM I need a second pair of eyes. I've just come back to my Red Bull Air Race pano to fix the dodgy water try and compensate for all the blue smoke in the atmosphere. If you have a moment, could you please have a look at it and give me you brutal and honest appraisal. Colour, textures, any obvious blending errors, general suggestions etc.. (~890kb) http://www.arach.net.au/~savage/Misc/Images/K10D/Pano/RBAR_002_working_crop.jpg I've been staring at it too long I'm going cross-eyed 8-/ TIA. Cheers, Dave -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions. !SIG:47c2dd1f69103098596059! -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: PESO: Lunch Break (QTVR Pano)
On Mon, Feb 25, 2008 at 11:18 AM, David Savage [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: G'day Frank. You need Apple Quicktime installed to view it: http://www.apple.com/quicktime/download/ My computer at work is set up so that I can't download programmes from the internet (can't download any .exe files). I'll have to wait until I get home. :-( cheers, frank -- Sharpness is a bourgeois concept. -Henri Cartier-Bresson -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: A quick favour...
On Mon, Feb 25, 2008 at 11:05 AM, Boris Liberman [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Dave, I don't see a thing wrong with this pano. May be others will have different mileage than me though... Boris I'm with Boris. I think it's really cool!! cheers, frank -- Sharpness is a bourgeois concept. -Henri Cartier-Bresson -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: PESO: Lunch Break (QTVR Pano)
I'm not a big pano person, but you do a good job with this. Aside from the polarizer weirdness, of course. G On Feb 25, 2008, at 12:21 AM, David Savage wrote: http://www.arach.net.au/~savage/Misc/0038.mov -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: GESO: Today :D
On Sun, Feb 24, 2008 at 4:48 PM, Timber [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Hi! Today I was at the riverside of Danube and a lot of ducks came to celebrate the good weather :D I also had my Photo Sniper with me (modified for K10D :P) and took a few shots. I really like this equipment, since it's not just a great lens, the Tair f4.5/300mm but also a special mount which looks like a machine gun :D So a few duck shots with the Tair: http://www.pbase.com/timbercode/image/93375971 http://www.pbase.com/timbercode/image/93375972 http://www.pbase.com/timbercode/image/93375973 http://www.pbase.com/timbercode/image/93375970 And 2 shots from the town called Szentendre (with the kit lens): http://www.pbase.com/timbercode/image/93375974 http://www.pbase.com/timbercode/image/93375975 Also I had my Full Spectrum Panasonic FZ50 with me... here's a shot made with it with a Hoya R72: http://www.pbase.com/timbercode/image/93375975 Terrific group of photos, all of them! cheers, frank -- Sharpness is a bourgeois concept. -Henri Cartier-Bresson -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: PESO: Lunch Break (QTVR Pano)
On Tue, Feb 26, 2008 at 1:03 AM, frank theriault [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On Mon, Feb 25, 2008 at 3:21 AM, David Savage [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: G'day All, Hope this finds you warm dry. (~390kb): http://www.arach.net.au/~savage/Misc/0038.mov ;-) It's kinda funky what the polariser did. Almost looks like night time to me. Cheers, I'm not ignoring you, Dave, but my work computer doesn't know what to do with your file, and neither do I, so I can't open it just now... G'day Frank. You need Apple Quicktime installed to view it: http://www.apple.com/quicktime/download/ Cheers, Dave -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: A quick favour...
frank theriault wrote: On Mon, Feb 25, 2008 at 11:05 AM, Boris Liberman [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Dave, I don't see a thing wrong with this pano. May be others will have different mileage than me though... Boris I'm with Boris. I think it's really cool!! cheers, frank Seconded. Thirded. Whatever. I like it. -- Scott Loveless http://www.twosixteen.com/fivetoedsloth/ -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: Film in, digital out...
frank theriault wrote: On Sun, Feb 24, 2008 at 7:24 PM, David J Brooks [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Buy a cheese shop.?? http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=B3KBuQHHKx0feature=related cheers, frank That's amazingly similar to going to my local Pentax dealer and trying to buy anything labeled Pentax. -- Scott Loveless http://www.twosixteen.com/fivetoedsloth/ -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: A quick favour...
Nothing jumps out to me... Kenneth Waller http://www.tinyurl.com/272u2f - Original Message - From: David Savage [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: A quick favour... I need a second pair of eyes. I've just come back to my Red Bull Air Race pano to fix the dodgy water try and compensate for all the blue smoke in the atmosphere. If you have a moment, could you please have a look at it and give me you brutal and honest appraisal. Colour, textures, any obvious blending errors, general suggestions etc.. (~890kb) http://www.arach.net.au/~savage/Misc/Images/K10D/Pano/RBAR_002_working_crop.jpg I've been staring at it too long I'm going cross-eyed 8-/ TIA. Cheers, Dave -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: Film in, digital out...
On Mon, Feb 25, 2008 at 11:56 AM, Scott Loveless [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: That's amazingly similar to going to my local Pentax dealer and trying to buy anything labeled Pentax. They have bouzouki players at your camera shop? cheers, frank -- Sharpness is a bourgeois concept. -Henri Cartier-Bresson -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: Questions about Porst MC f1.2/55mm K Bayonet lens.
If its the same as the Cosina 55mm1.2, then here is a portrait image taken with the Cosina, wide open: http://gonz.dyndns.org/cosina/IMGP8390.jpg Gonz On 2/23/08, Timber [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Hello list :D I've bought a Porst MC Color Reflex f1.2/55mm for K bayonet (the price was almost the half of the price used to be here). I am very excited about this lens (I already loved the very small DOF of the f1.7... so I am really excited about the f1.2 :D) especially for portrait. Does anyone has any experience with this lens? I've found some photos made with this lens on the internet ( http://www.mflenses.com/gallery/v/japenese/othermaker/ports_55mm_f1_2/ ) and it made me even more excited :D Even with most of the photos having a little motion (and some a little OOF :P) the lens seems to me very impressive. Especially the hand of the monkey impressed me with it's DOF and bokeh. I would love to see some portraits with this lens, but unfortunately Attila (the owner of mflenses) didn't published any :D So any experience (I hope for good experience :D) would interest me about this very promising lens. Especially portrait usage :D Cheers, Timber -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions. -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: Philly funnies
I see his scurvy plan. Sell the camera for $800 when he contracted for 900 make the final payment to keep his credit good use the remaining money to buy a new one at the at the current price of about 650 body only. It would work for me if only I could find someone stupid enough to take the deal... David J Brooks wrote: Can't make the last payment and wants $800.00. Must have bought it for $18,000 Dave On Sun, Feb 24, 2008 at 5:17 PM, Scott Loveless [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Hope I'm not violating the spirit of the ebay rule here. Enjoy. http://philadelphia.craigslist.org/ele/582514926.html -- Scott Loveless http://www.twosixteen.com/fivetoedsloth/ -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions. -- Vote for Cthulhu. Why settle for a lesser evil... -- Dr. Jerry Pournelle -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: GESO - Serbian Demonstration
Some nice shots. The first is the most powerful to me. Really shows the feelings of the crowd. -- Best regards, Bruce Monday, February 25, 2008, 6:16:30 AM, you wrote: ft A counterpoint to Bob's gallery last week showing the joy of ex-pat ft Kosovonians (?) in London. On Saturday in Toronto, Serbs demonstrated ft in front the the American Consulate. I happened to be walking in the ft area, and happened to have my camera. The mood was somewhat less ft ebulent: ft http://tinyurl.com/2q7dup ft http://bp2.blogger.com/_EaTEtfR4WJw/R8LDyEgqgVI/BiU/S_lAubZ4Vbw/s1600-h/feb_25_08+003.jpg ft http://tinyurl.com/34aw3j ft http://bp0.blogger.com/_EaTEtfR4WJw/R8LF9kgqgjI/BkE/V8LI0Ar29us/s1600-h/feb_25_08+007.jpg ft http://tinyurl.com/35wmgp ft http://bp2.blogger.com/_EaTEtfR4WJw/R8LF-EgqgkI/BkM/iSQMOFc6kNI/s1600-h/feb_25_08+008.jpg ft http://tinyurl.com/2q7p74 ft http://bp2.blogger.com/_EaTEtfR4WJw/R8LGIEgqglI/BkU/KmrDAl64NOw/s1600-h/feb_25_08+009.jpg ft http://tinyurl.com/35v6k6 ft http://bp3.blogger.com/_EaTEtfR4WJw/R8LFjUgqgfI/Bjk/wh7ngHcLanw/s1600-h/feb_25_08+006.jpg ft http://tinyurl.com/2soodc ft http://bp3.blogger.com/_EaTEtfR4WJw/R8LDdUgqgUI/BiM/b8kmicxE-0Y/s1600-h/feb_25_08+005.jpg ft http://tinyurl.com/ytbktd ft http://bp3.blogger.com/_EaTEtfR4WJw/R8LGPUgqgmI/Bkc/YNc7rUiANoo/s1600-h/feb_25_08+010.jpg ft and, finally, I managed to find one smiling face: ft http://tinyurl.com/2587sl ft http://bp2.blogger.com/_EaTEtfR4WJw/R8LDdEgqgTI/BiE/4BRpu-kGOUo/s1600-h/feb_25_08+004.jpg ft Comments are always encouraged. Thanks! ft cheers, ft frank ft -- ft Sharpness is a bourgeois concept. -Henri Cartier-Bresson -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: Film in, digital out...
On Sun, Feb 24, 2008 at 7:24 PM, David J Brooks [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Buy a cheese shop.?? http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=B3KBuQHHKx0feature=related cheers, frank -- Sharpness is a bourgeois concept. -Henri Cartier-Bresson -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: OT: The influence of fairy cakes on Darwinian selection
On Sun, Feb 24, 2008 at 2:21 PM, Bob W [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: It's one thing to die from a surfeit of lampreys, but this? http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/wales/7261888.stm Yes, but did he win the contest? cheers, frank -- Sharpness is a bourgeois concept. -Henri Cartier-Bresson -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: Need info on K10D AF vs. MZ-S
On Feb 25, 2008, at 9:34, Thibouille wrote: Second hand should OK, sourcing from the guys ditching the K10D for a K20D ;) ...which is my plan, at this point. :-) Fingers crossed! -Charles -- Charles Robinson - [EMAIL PROTECTED] Minneapolis, MN http://charles.robinsontwins.org -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: GESO - Serbian Demonstration
On Feb 25, 2008, at 8:16, frank theriault wrote: A counterpoint to Bob's gallery last week showing the joy of ex-pat Kosovonians (?) in London. On Saturday in Toronto, Serbs demonstrated in front the the American Consulate. I happened to be walking in the area, and happened to have my camera. The mood was somewhat less ebulent: http://tinyurl.com/2q7dup http://bp2.blogger.com/_EaTEtfR4WJw/R8LDyEgqgVI/BiU/S_lAubZ4Vbw/s1600-h/feb_25_08+003.jpg http://tinyurl.com/34aw3j http://bp0.blogger.com/_EaTEtfR4WJw/R8LF9kgqgjI/BkE/V8LI0Ar29us/s1600-h/feb_25_08+007.jpg This one I didn't understand. What the heck does he mean? I like the first picture the best. -Charles -- Charles Robinson - [EMAIL PROTECTED] Minneapolis, MN http://charles.robinsontwins.org -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: Another café
On Sun, Feb 24, 2008 at 1:03 PM, Bob W [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Not quite as upmarket as last week's: http://www.web-options.com/Cafe3.jpg Excellent! cheers, frank -- Sharpness is a bourgeois concept. -Henri Cartier-Bresson -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: OT: The influence of fairy cakes on Darwinian selection
Quoting frank theriault, who wrote on Mon, Feb 25, 2008 at 12:40:51PM -0500 .. On Sun, Feb 24, 2008 at 2:21 PM, Bob W [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: It's one thing to die from a surfeit of lampreys, but this? http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/wales/7261888.stm Yes, but did he win the contest? Sure, he got a Darwin Award. http://www.darwinawards.com/ cheers, frank -- Sharpness is a bourgeois concept. -Henri Cartier-Bresson -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions. --- end of quoted text --- -- Wilko -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: GESO - Serbian Demonstration
On Mon, Feb 25, 2008 at 1:00 PM, Charles Robinson [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: http://tinyurl.com/34aw3j http://bp0.blogger.com/_EaTEtfR4WJw/R8LF9kgqgjI/BkE/V8LI0Ar29us/s1600-h/feb_25_08+007.jpg This one I didn't understand. What the heck does he mean? I like the first picture the best. Well, I'm a bit foggy on all this, too. I ~think~ what he's trying to do is: First of all, let the US know he's pissed that they recognized Kosovo as an independant state over the protests of Serbia, and, Second, I ~think~ he's trying to draw an analogy between the present situation in Kosovo/Serbia and that of appeasement in just before WWII. You know, Neville Chamberlain, Peace in our time, that sort of thing. Of course, I could be wrong, but that's what I took from that particular placard. It does take some imaginative interpretation, I'll admit... ;-) Finally, I'm with you, Bruce and others who like the first image best. I find it the most powerful and the most representative of the mood of the crowd (surly). That's why I put if first! cheers, frank -- Sharpness is a bourgeois concept. -Henri Cartier-Bresson -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: OT: The influence of fairy cakes on Darwinian selection
On Mon, Feb 25, 2008 at 1:17 PM, Wilko Bulte [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Yes, but did he win the contest? Sure, he got a Darwin Award. http://www.darwinawards.com/ Well, yeah, but that's kind of delayed gratification (especially since he was dead anyway). I was wondering if he won the fairycake eating contest. It would have been nice for his friends and relatives to see him go out on a positve note. I think they should name the contest after him from now on. It's the least they should do. He gave his life for fairycakes, after all... cheers, frank -- Sharpness is a bourgeois concept. -Henri Cartier-Bresson -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: GESO - Serbian Demonstration
My thought was, you'd think they could draw a swastika correctly... [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Good work. Like the first one best. I find it ironic that a people who embraced ethnic cleansing as a solution would ascribe a swastika to Europe and the US. But that's politics for you. Paul -- Original message -- From: frank theriault [EMAIL PROTECTED] A counterpoint to Bob's gallery last week showing the joy of ex-pat Kosovonians (?) in London. On Saturday in Toronto, Serbs demonstrated in front the the American Consulate. I happened to be walking in the area, and happened to have my camera. The mood was somewhat less ebulent: http://tinyurl.com/2q7dup http://bp2.blogger.com/_EaTEtfR4WJw/R8LDyEgqgVI/BiU/S_lAubZ4Vbw/s1600-h/ feb_25_08+003.jpg http://tinyurl.com/34aw3j http://bp0.blogger.com/_EaTEtfR4WJw/R8LF9kgqgjI/BkE/V8LI0Ar29us/s1600-h/ feb_25_08+007.jpg http://tinyurl.com/35wmgp http://bp2.blogger.com/_EaTEtfR4WJw/R8LF-EgqgkI/BkM/iSQMOFc6kNI/s1600-h/ feb_25_08+008.jpg http://tinyurl.com/2q7p74 http://bp2.blogger.com/_EaTEtfR4WJw/R8LGIEgqglI/BkU/KmrDAl64NOw/s1600-h/ feb_25_08+009.jpg http://tinyurl.com/35v6k6 http://bp3.blogger.com/_EaTEtfR4WJw/R8LFjUgqgfI/Bjk/wh7ngHcLanw/s1600-h/ feb_25_08+006.jpg http://tinyurl.com/2soodc http://bp3.blogger.com/_EaTEtfR4WJw/R8LDdUgqgUI/BiM/b8kmicxE-0Y/s1600-h/ feb_25_08+005.jpg http://tinyurl.com/ytbktd http://bp3.blogger.com/_EaTEtfR4WJw/R8LGPUgqgmI/Bkc/YNc7rUiANoo/s1600-h/ feb_25_08+010.jpg and, finally, I managed to find one smiling face: http://tinyurl.com/2587sl http://bp2.blogger.com/_EaTEtfR4WJw/R8LDdEgqgTI/BiE/4BRpu-kGOUo/s1600-h/ feb_25_08+004.jpg Comments are always encouraged. Thanks! cheers, frank -- Sharpness is a bourgeois concept. -Henri Cartier-Bresson -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions. -- Vote for Cthulhu. Why settle for a lesser evil... -- Dr. Jerry Pournelle -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: PESO - Yellow Creek
If a lot of people knew they were there, they'd be littered with beer bottles and condoms... frank theriault wrote: On Sun, Feb 24, 2008 at 1:16 AM, Adam Maas [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: One of Toronto's hidden gems, this is one of the small ravines which thread their way around the downtown core of Toronto. In this case, it's the Vale of Avoca Reach of Yellow Creek, located in David A. Balfour Park south of Mt Pleasant Cemetary. There used to be a Sawmill to the left of this site. http://www.flickr.com/photos/mawz/2287080317/ Larger/Direct link: http://farm3.static.flickr.com/2175/2287080317_d1a4029b9f_b.jpg K10D, Sigma 17-70, 3 shot HDR tonemap Toronto's ravines are indeed a treasure; I'm continually amazed at how many people don't know they're there! Terrific shot, Adam. cheers, frank -- Vote for Cthulhu. Why settle for a lesser evil... -- Dr. Jerry Pournelle -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: PESO: Lunch Break (QTVR Pano)
David, On Feb 25, 2008, at 12:21 AM, David Savage wrote: http://www.arach.net.au/~savage/Misc/0038.mov Very nice mate - have a look at some of the panos on this page: http://www.graysofwestminster.co.uk/tour/ at right. I stumbles across these and they aren't bad - you might find them interesting :-) -- Cheers, Cotty ___/\__ || (O) | People, Places, Pastiche ||=|http://www.cottysnaps.com _ -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: Why I like this list
Hey, get a room. David Savage wrote: I love you man... D On Mon, Feb 25, 2008 at 7:34 PM, Derby Chang [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I've been having dalliances with a few other photo lists lately (new camera systems you know). Thought I'd just mention why I love it here. You guys here love a good photo. Up to a point, equipment debates are interesting (and I'm as guilty as any other), but once you spend more time niggling about l/mm, corner sharpness, CA, noise levels, fpm and alike, instead of taking piccies, it gets dull quickly. The collegial feel, the classlessness, the willingness to help the just-starting-out...so rare in the outside world. In the end, connecting with others is really the aim of the game in the end, isn't it? I don't comment on all the photos that come across the list, but it doesn't mean I don't appreciate them. PESOs, PAWs, GESOs, keep 'em coming. Forgive me for straying. -- Vote for Cthulhu. Why settle for a lesser evil... -- Dr. Jerry Pournelle -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: GESO - Serbian Demonstration
No kidding. I thought he was calling us all a bunch of Buddhists. ;) Wonderful photos, btw. I, too, like the first one. P. J. Alling wrote: My thought was, you'd think they could draw a swastika correctly... [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Good work. Like the first one best. I find it ironic that a people who embraced ethnic cleansing as a solution would ascribe a swastika to Europe and the US. But that's politics for you. Paul -- Original message -- From: frank theriault [EMAIL PROTECTED] A counterpoint to Bob's gallery last week showing the joy of ex-pat Kosovonians (?) in London. On Saturday in Toronto, Serbs demonstrated in front the the American Consulate. I happened to be walking in the area, and happened to have my camera. The mood was somewhat less ebulent: http://tinyurl.com/2q7dup http://bp2.blogger.com/_EaTEtfR4WJw/R8LDyEgqgVI/BiU/S_lAubZ4Vbw/s1600-h/ feb_25_08+003.jpg http://tinyurl.com/34aw3j http://bp0.blogger.com/_EaTEtfR4WJw/R8LF9kgqgjI/BkE/V8LI0Ar29us/s1600-h/ feb_25_08+007.jpg http://tinyurl.com/35wmgp http://bp2.blogger.com/_EaTEtfR4WJw/R8LF-EgqgkI/BkM/iSQMOFc6kNI/s1600-h/ feb_25_08+008.jpg http://tinyurl.com/2q7p74 http://bp2.blogger.com/_EaTEtfR4WJw/R8LGIEgqglI/BkU/KmrDAl64NOw/s1600-h/ feb_25_08+009.jpg http://tinyurl.com/35v6k6 http://bp3.blogger.com/_EaTEtfR4WJw/R8LFjUgqgfI/Bjk/wh7ngHcLanw/s1600-h/ feb_25_08+006.jpg http://tinyurl.com/2soodc http://bp3.blogger.com/_EaTEtfR4WJw/R8LDdUgqgUI/BiM/b8kmicxE-0Y/s1600-h/ feb_25_08+005.jpg http://tinyurl.com/ytbktd http://bp3.blogger.com/_EaTEtfR4WJw/R8LGPUgqgmI/Bkc/YNc7rUiANoo/s1600-h/ feb_25_08+010.jpg and, finally, I managed to find one smiling face: http://tinyurl.com/2587sl http://bp2.blogger.com/_EaTEtfR4WJw/R8LDdEgqgTI/BiE/4BRpu-kGOUo/s1600-h/ feb_25_08+004.jpg Comments are always encouraged. Thanks! cheers, frank -- Scott Loveless http://www.twosixteen.com/fivetoedsloth/ -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: GESO - Serbian Demonstration
Nice shots Frank, caught the situation well. frank theriault wrote: A counterpoint to Bob's gallery last week showing the joy of ex-pat Kosovonians (?) in London. On Saturday in Toronto, Serbs demonstrated in front the the American Consulate. I happened to be walking in the area, and happened to have my camera. The mood was somewhat less ebulent: http://tinyurl.com/2q7dup http://bp2.blogger.com/_EaTEtfR4WJw/R8LDyEgqgVI/BiU/S_lAubZ4Vbw/s1600-h/feb_25_08+003.jpg http://tinyurl.com/34aw3j http://bp0.blogger.com/_EaTEtfR4WJw/R8LF9kgqgjI/BkE/V8LI0Ar29us/s1600-h/feb_25_08+007.jpg http://tinyurl.com/35wmgp http://bp2.blogger.com/_EaTEtfR4WJw/R8LF-EgqgkI/BkM/iSQMOFc6kNI/s1600-h/feb_25_08+008.jpg http://tinyurl.com/2q7p74 http://bp2.blogger.com/_EaTEtfR4WJw/R8LGIEgqglI/BkU/KmrDAl64NOw/s1600-h/feb_25_08+009.jpg http://tinyurl.com/35v6k6 http://bp3.blogger.com/_EaTEtfR4WJw/R8LFjUgqgfI/Bjk/wh7ngHcLanw/s1600-h/feb_25_08+006.jpg http://tinyurl.com/2soodc http://bp3.blogger.com/_EaTEtfR4WJw/R8LDdUgqgUI/BiM/b8kmicxE-0Y/s1600-h/feb_25_08+005.jpg http://tinyurl.com/ytbktd http://bp3.blogger.com/_EaTEtfR4WJw/R8LGPUgqgmI/Bkc/YNc7rUiANoo/s1600-h/feb_25_08+010.jpg and, finally, I managed to find one smiling face: http://tinyurl.com/2587sl http://bp2.blogger.com/_EaTEtfR4WJw/R8LDdEgqgTI/BiE/4BRpu-kGOUo/s1600-h/feb_25_08+004.jpg Comments are always encouraged. Thanks! cheers, frank -- Vote for Cthulhu. Why settle for a lesser evil... -- Dr. Jerry Pournelle -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: Why I like this list
I can second that, and if necessary third and fourth as well. PDML is quite unique IMHO. Boris Derby Chang wrote: I've been having dalliances with a few other photo lists lately (new camera systems you know). Thought I'd just mention why I love it here. You guys here love a good photo. Up to a point, equipment debates are interesting (and I'm as guilty as any other), but once you spend more time niggling about l/mm, corner sharpness, CA, noise levels, fpm and alike, instead of taking piccies, it gets dull quickly. The collegial feel, the classlessness, the willingness to help the just-starting-out...so rare in the outside world. In the end, connecting with others is really the aim of the game in the end, isn't it? I don't comment on all the photos that come across the list, but it doesn't mean I don't appreciate them. PESOs, PAWs, GESOs, keep 'em coming. Forgive me for straying. D -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: Film in, digital out...
frank theriault wrote: On Mon, Feb 25, 2008 at 11:56 AM, Scott Loveless [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: That's amazingly similar to going to my local Pentax dealer and trying to buy anything labeled Pentax. They have bouzouki players at your camera shop? It's actually a bag pipe and accordion duet. At least that's how my head always feels immediately after leaving. -- Scott Loveless http://www.twosixteen.com/fivetoedsloth/ -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: PESO - Yellow Creek
On Mon, Feb 25, 2008 at 1:35 PM, P. J. Alling [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: If a lot of people knew they were there, they'd be littered with beer bottles and condoms... Actually, they already are. Hundreds of homeless people sleep in the ravines, often in tents, lean-tos or under bridges or other make-shift shelters. Given that The City doesn't exactly condone this type of behaviour, they do not provide sanitation services. In the summer these people are more or less invisible, but in winter, without the cover of folliage, their dark tents are quite visible against the snow. Plus there are all manner of hikers and other interlopers who ply the nature trails that run the length of many of these ravines. They often leave their marks... cheers, frank -- Sharpness is a bourgeois concept. -Henri Cartier-Bresson -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: A quick favour...
Dave, Looks good to me. Is this the one with a 10th plane coming at us low thru the left pilons? Regards, Bob S. On 2/25/08, David Savage [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I need a second pair of eyes. I've just come back to my Red Bull Air Race pano to fix the dodgy water try and compensate for all the blue smoke in the atmosphere. If you have a moment, could you please have a look at it and give me you brutal and honest appraisal. Colour, textures, any obvious blending errors, general suggestions etc.. (~890kb) http://www.arach.net.au/~savage/Misc/Images/K10D/Pano/RBAR_002_working_crop.jpg I've been staring at it too long I'm going cross-eyed 8-/ TIA. Cheers, Dave -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions. -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: Australia Trip -- New Lens
Corey Leopold wrote: Next May I have a trip planned for Australia and New Zealand. Pretty much going to hit the tourist spots, Sydney, Ayers Rock, Cairns, Christchurch... I'm looking to pick up another lens between now and then for my K10D, I was wondering anyone had any recommendations? I currently have the kit DA 18-55 and an SMC A 35-105 FA* 600mm F4. The bird life in Oz is fantastic. -- Christian http://photography.skofteland.net -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: Film in, digital out...
Don't they all? frank theriault wrote: On Mon, Feb 25, 2008 at 11:56 AM, Scott Loveless [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: That's amazingly similar to going to my local Pentax dealer and trying to buy anything labeled Pentax. They have bouzouki players at your camera shop? cheers, frank -- Vote for Cthulhu. Why settle for a lesser evil... -- Dr. Jerry Pournelle -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: OT: The influence of fairy cakes on Darwinian selection
On Mon, Feb 25, 2008 at 07:17:30PM +0100, Wilko Bulte wrote: Quoting frank theriault, who wrote on Mon, Feb 25, 2008 at 12:40:51PM -0500 .. On Sun, Feb 24, 2008 at 2:21 PM, Bob W [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: It's one thing to die from a surfeit of lampreys, but this? http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/wales/7261888.stm Yes, but did he win the contest? Sure, he got a Darwin Award. http://www.darwinawards.com/ Strictly speaking, only valid if he had not yet passed on his genes. -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: GESO: Today :D
Timber wrote: Hi! Today I was at the riverside of Danube and a lot of ducks came to celebrate the good weather :D I also had my Photo Sniper with me (modified for K10D :P) and took a few shots. I really like this equipment, since it's not just a great lens, the Tair f4.5/300mm but also a special mount which looks like a machine gun :D So a few duck shots with the Tair: http://www.pbase.com/timbercode/image/93375971 http://www.pbase.com/timbercode/image/93375972 http://www.pbase.com/timbercode/image/93375973 http://www.pbase.com/timbercode/image/93375970 And 2 shots from the town called Szentendre (with the kit lens): http://www.pbase.com/timbercode/image/93375974 http://www.pbase.com/timbercode/image/93375975 Also I had my Full Spectrum Panasonic FZ50 with me... here's a shot made with it with a Hoya R72: http://www.pbase.com/timbercode/image/93375975 the flight shot and the first duck shot are very nice. -- Christian http://photography.skofteland.net -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: Film in, digital out...
On Mon, Feb 25, 2008 at 2:20 PM, P. J. Alling [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Don't they all? Maybe in Connecticut... cheers, frank -- Sharpness is a bourgeois concept. -Henri Cartier-Bresson -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: Film in, digital out...
On Feb 25, 2008, at 8:56 AM, Scott Loveless wrote: Buy a cheese shop.?? http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=B3KBuQHHKx0feature=related That's amazingly similar to going to my local Pentax dealer and trying to buy anything labeled Pentax. It's a little better at mine ... They've got Wensleydale. G -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: Australia Trip -- New Lens
On Sun, Feb 24, 2008 at 8:13 AM, David Savage [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Good ol' Cesar. Packs not only for his worst case scenario but everyone else's too. Because of Cesar I lost my digital virginity. It was a dark and stormy night (actually, it ~was~ dark and stormy because it ~always~ rains Thursday and Friday on GFM @ NPW...). Two years ago Cesar lent me one of his *istD's with the original 40mm pancake - a nice combo! I had a blast that weekend shooting with it all weekend. It only took me about a year to acquire my own... cheers, frank -- Sharpness is a bourgeois concept. -Henri Cartier-Bresson -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
RE: GESO - Serbian Demonstration
Very interesting counterpoint, thanks. Bob -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of frank theriault Sent: 25 February 2008 14:17 To: Pentax-Discuss Mail List Subject: GESO - Serbian Demonstration A counterpoint to Bob's gallery last week showing the joy of ex-pat Kosovonians (?) in London. On Saturday in Toronto, Serbs demonstrated in front the the American Consulate. I happened to be walking in the area, and happened to have my camera. The mood was somewhat less ebulent: http://tinyurl.com/2q7dup http://bp2.blogger.com/_EaTEtfR4WJw/R8LDyEgqgVI/BiU/S_ lAubZ4Vbw/s1600-h/feb_25_08+003.jpg http://tinyurl.com/34aw3j http://bp0.blogger.com/_EaTEtfR4WJw/R8LF9kgqgjI/BkE/V8 LI0Ar29us/s1600-h/feb_25_08+007.jpg http://tinyurl.com/35wmgp http://bp2.blogger.com/_EaTEtfR4WJw/R8LF-EgqgkI/BkM/iS QMOFc6kNI/s1600-h/feb_25_08+008.jpg http://tinyurl.com/2q7p74 http://bp2.blogger.com/_EaTEtfR4WJw/R8LGIEgqglI/BkU/Km rDAl64NOw/s1600-h/feb_25_08+009.jpg http://tinyurl.com/35v6k6 http://bp3.blogger.com/_EaTEtfR4WJw/R8LFjUgqgfI/Bjk/wh 7ngHcLanw/s1600-h/feb_25_08+006.jpg http://tinyurl.com/2soodc http://bp3.blogger.com/_EaTEtfR4WJw/R8LDdUgqgUI/BiM/b8 kmicxE-0Y/s1600-h/feb_25_08+005.jpg http://tinyurl.com/ytbktd http://bp3.blogger.com/_EaTEtfR4WJw/R8LGPUgqgmI/Bkc/YN c7rUiANoo/s1600-h/feb_25_08+010.jpg and, finally, I managed to find one smiling face: http://tinyurl.com/2587sl http://bp2.blogger.com/_EaTEtfR4WJw/R8LDdEgqgTI/BiE/4B Rpu-kGOUo/s1600-h/feb_25_08+004.jpg Comments are always encouraged. Thanks! cheers, frank -- Sharpness is a bourgeois concept. -Henri Cartier-Bresson -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions. -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
RE: GESO - Serbian Demonstration
Some of them are obviously better than others at emulating the nazis. Here's a link to some of Ron Haviv's pictures from Blood and Honey: http://photoarts.com/haviv/bosnia/prisoners2.html My thought was, you'd think they could draw a swastika correctly... [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Good work. Like the first one best. I find it ironic that a people who embraced ethnic cleansing as a solution would ascribe a swastika to Europe and the US. But that's politics for you. Paul -- Original message -- From: frank theriault [EMAIL PROTECTED] A counterpoint to Bob's gallery last week showing the joy of ex-pat Kosovonians (?) in London. On Saturday in Toronto, Serbs demonstrated in front the the American Consulate. I happened to be walking in the area, and happened to have my camera. The mood was somewhat less ebulent: http://tinyurl.com/2q7dup http://bp2.blogger.com/_EaTEtfR4WJw/R8LDyEgqgVI/BiU/S_ lAubZ4Vbw/s1600-h/ feb_25_08+003.jpg http://tinyurl.com/34aw3j http://bp0.blogger.com/_EaTEtfR4WJw/R8LF9kgqgjI/BkE/V8 LI0Ar29us/s1600-h/ feb_25_08+007.jpg http://tinyurl.com/35wmgp http://bp2.blogger.com/_EaTEtfR4WJw/R8LF-EgqgkI/BkM/iS QMOFc6kNI/s1600-h/ feb_25_08+008.jpg http://tinyurl.com/2q7p74 http://bp2.blogger.com/_EaTEtfR4WJw/R8LGIEgqglI/BkU/Km rDAl64NOw/s1600-h/ feb_25_08+009.jpg http://tinyurl.com/35v6k6 http://bp3.blogger.com/_EaTEtfR4WJw/R8LFjUgqgfI/Bjk/wh 7ngHcLanw/s1600-h/ feb_25_08+006.jpg http://tinyurl.com/2soodc http://bp3.blogger.com/_EaTEtfR4WJw/R8LDdUgqgUI/BiM/b8 kmicxE-0Y/s1600-h/ feb_25_08+005.jpg http://tinyurl.com/ytbktd http://bp3.blogger.com/_EaTEtfR4WJw/R8LGPUgqgmI/Bkc/YN c7rUiANoo/s1600-h/ feb_25_08+010.jpg and, finally, I managed to find one smiling face: http://tinyurl.com/2587sl http://bp2.blogger.com/_EaTEtfR4WJw/R8LDdEgqgTI/BiE/4B Rpu-kGOUo/s1600-h/ feb_25_08+004.jpg Comments are always encouraged. Thanks! cheers, frank -- Sharpness is a bourgeois concept. -Henri Cartier-Bresson -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions. -- Vote for Cthulhu. Why settle for a lesser evil... -- Dr. Jerry Pournelle -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions. -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: GESO - Serbian Demonstration
On Mon, Feb 25, 2008 at 3:16 PM, Bob W [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Some of them are obviously better than others at emulating the nazis. Here's a link to some of Ron Haviv's pictures from Blood and Honey: http://photoarts.com/haviv/bosnia/prisoners2.html Not feeling too good about being a human being right now... -frank -- Sharpness is a bourgeois concept. -Henri Cartier-Bresson -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: GESO - Serbian Demonstration
On Mon, Feb 25, 2008 at 3:14 PM, Bob W [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Very interesting counterpoint, thanks. It immediately struck me, even as I was several hundred metres away from the demonstration, that the mood was completely different from the euphoria shown by your photos of Kosovo ex-pats in London. There were very few smiles. There was a great deal of anger. There was much rhetoric from the speakers about International Law and Serbia's rights, and no talk of Kosovo's rights. The only singing I heard was the Serbian National anthem, and even then faces were pretty dour. cheers, frank -- Sharpness is a bourgeois concept. -Henri Cartier-Bresson -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
RE: PESO: Lunch Break (QTVR Pano)
Interesting factoid: Leni Riefenstahl invented day-for0night shooting. An old movie trick I read about somewhere was to underexpose using a polarizing filter and I think it was a red filter to simulate moonlight on a bright sunny day. (This was of course using BW film). David Savage wrote: G'day All, Hope this finds you warm dry. (~390kb): http://www.arach.net.au/~savage/Misc/0038.mov ;-) It's kinda funky what the polariser did. Almost looks like night time to me. -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
RE: GESO - Serbian Demonstration
A counterpoint to Bob's gallery last week showing the joy of ex-pat Kosovonians (?) in London. On Saturday in Toronto, Serbs demonstrated in front the the American Consulate. I happened to be walking in the area, and happened to have my camera. The mood was somewhat less ebulent: http://tinyurl.com/2q7dup http://bp2.blogger.com/_EaTEtfR4WJw/R8LDyEgqgVI/BiU/S_ lAubZ4Vbw/s1600-h/feb_25_08+003.jpg http://tinyurl.com/34aw3j http://bp0.blogger.com/_EaTEtfR4WJw/R8LF9kgqgjI/BkE/V8 LI0Ar29us/s1600-h/feb_25_08+007.jpg This one I didn't understand. What the heck does he mean? I like the first picture the best. -Charles I don't suppose many of us are very well up on Yugoslav history, but I think it is a reference to the Nazi occupation of Yugoslavia in WW2 and their splitting it up into separate territories. 'Kosovo is Serbia' refers to the belief that Kosovo is the heartland of Serbia. There was a mediaeval battle there against the Turks, which the Serbs lost but which is seen as a turning point in the development of Serb national identity. I think it would be a bit like Boston wanting to be part of Canada. Bob -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: K20D back focus
A better way of saying what I was trying to From: Paul Stenquist [EMAIL PROTECTED] Date: 2008/02/25 Mon AM 11:26:58 GMT To: Pentax-Discuss Mail List pdml@pdml.net Subject: Re: K20D back focus I think it's more likely that the sensor's focus plane is more accurate rather than tighter than that of film. The focal point is the focal point. And since film is somewhat curved, it can never be totally accurate. Paul On Feb 25, 2008, at 3:58 AM, mike wilson wrote: From: Bob Sullivan [EMAIL PROTECTED] Reading the promo literature on the K20D, I noticed a new feature. The camera has the ability to store adjustments for backfocus (or forward) for 20 lenses. The claim is that all the DA lenses are fine, but others may need adjusting. Any ideas on why this might be? Do some lenses transmit more of the right wavelength light for focusing? I am puzzled as to the physics/mechanics of this. I am beginning to suspect that the focus plane required for sensors is much tighter than that for film and that lenses that would have been fine on replaceable medium do not now have the quality control required for good focus. Combined with an uncertain condition due to age and wear and tear, it may be that many lenses do not have the ability to focus properly on the sensor. This will of course, mean that it is individual lenses (although there may be model traits) that require to either be adjusted to suit the sensor or have the sensor placed into a suitable position. As the sensor can be easily adjusted to compensate that seems to be the logical suggestion, rather than a major service on each lens - which would then only make them suitable for one particular body. I'm not sure which is Mo' and which is the mountain in this scenario. I also still can't work out why one lens should appear to focus properly in the viewfinder yet not on the sensor and another focuses fine on both. - Email sent from www.virginmedia.com/email Virus-checked using McAfee(R) Software and scanned for spam -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions. -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions. - Email sent from www.virginmedia.com/email Virus-checked using McAfee(R) Software and scanned for spam -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: Australia Trip -- New Lens
From: frank theriault [EMAIL PROTECTED] Date: 2008/02/25 Mon PM 08:05:30 GMT To: Pentax-Discuss Mail List pdml@pdml.net Subject: Re: Australia Trip -- New Lens On Sun, Feb 24, 2008 at 8:13 AM, David Savage [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Good ol' Cesar. Packs not only for his worst case scenario but everyone else's too. Because of Cesar I lost my digital virginity. Did you gain any virtual dignity? - Email sent from www.virginmedia.com/email Virus-checked using McAfee(R) Software and scanned for spam -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: Australia Trip -- New Lens
Quoting Christian [EMAIL PROTECTED]: Corey Leopold wrote: Next May I have a trip planned for Australia and New Zealand. Pretty much going to hit the tourist spots, Sydney, Ayers Rock, Cairns, Christchurch... I'm looking to pick up another lens between now and then for my K10D, I was wondering anyone had any recommendations? I currently have the kit DA 18-55 and an SMC A 35-105 FA* 600mm F4. The bird life in Oz is fantastic. Yeah - but he wants to have some funds left to pay for the trip I don't know if anyone else has mentioned it but the FA 80-320 is a remarkably good lens for the price, and would complement the other lenses nicely. Cheers Brian ++ Brian Walters Western Sydney, Australia http://members.westnet.com.au/brianwal/SL/ -- Get a free email address with REAL anti-spam protection. http://www.bluebottle.com/tag/1 -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Lens Test: Pentax DA* 16-50mm f/2.8 SDM AF - - PopPhotoMarch 2008
http://www.popphoto.com/cameralenses/5114/lens-test-pentax-da-16-50mm-f28-sdm-af.html Superior construction, ultra-smooth and quiet auto focus, excellent sharpness. In not so many words. More on their website, although PopPhoto has surprised me with controversal or incomplete reviews of Pentax K20D recently. Is it really just about some text to fill in between their ads. -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: K20D back focus
I've never really noticed any back/front focusing issues, but you folks are making me paranoid. Is there a good kind of shot for testing this? I'm thinking of using the 50 1.4 and 135 2.8, wide open, to take a portrait and using the central sensor to focus on one eye? Will this be a good indicator or would other conditions be better? mike wilson [EMAIL PROTECTED] 2/25/2008 3:53 PM A better way of saying what I was trying to From: Paul Stenquist [EMAIL PROTECTED] Date: 2008/02/25 Mon AM 11:26:58 GMT To: Pentax-Discuss Mail List pdml@pdml.net Subject: Re: K20D back focus I think it's more likely that the sensor's focus plane is more accurate rather than tighter than that of film. The focal point is the focal point. And since film is somewhat curved, it can never be totally accurate. Paul On Feb 25, 2008, at 3:58 AM, mike wilson wrote: From: Bob Sullivan [EMAIL PROTECTED] Reading the promo literature on the K20D, I noticed a new feature. The camera has the ability to store adjustments for backfocus (or forward) for 20 lenses. The claim is that all the DA lenses are fine, but others may need adjusting. Any ideas on why this might be? Do some lenses transmit more of the right wavelength light for focusing? I am puzzled as to the physics/mechanics of this. I am beginning to suspect that the focus plane required for sensors is much tighter than that for film and that lenses that would have been fine on replaceable medium do not now have the quality control required for good focus. Combined with an uncertain condition due to age and wear and tear, it may be that many lenses do not have the ability to focus properly on the sensor. This will of course, mean that it is individual lenses (although there may be model traits) that require to either be adjusted to suit the sensor or have the sensor placed into a suitable position. As the sensor can be easily adjusted to compensate that seems to be the logical suggestion, rather than a major service on each lens - which would then only make them suitable for one particular body. I'm not sure which is Mo' and which is the mountain in this scenario. I also still can't work out why one lens should appear to focus properly in the viewfinder yet not on the sensor and another focuses fine on both. - Email sent from www.virginmedia.com/email Virus-checked using McAfee(R) Software and scanned for spam -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions. -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions. - Email sent from www.virginmedia.com/email Virus-checked using McAfee(R) Software and scanned for spam -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions. !SIG:47c32dc069101956845059! -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: PESO: Lunch Break (QTVR Pano)
When was that, just curious because I've seen some old B oaters, maybe from the mid 1930s where they were obviously using that technique but not getting the balance exactly right. Bob W wrote: Interesting factoid: Leni Riefenstahl invented day-for0night shooting. An old movie trick I read about somewhere was to underexpose using a polarizing filter and I think it was a red filter to simulate moonlight on a bright sunny day. (This was of course using BW film). David Savage wrote: G'day All, Hope this finds you warm dry. (~390kb): http://www.arach.net.au/~savage/Misc/0038.mov ;-) It's kinda funky what the polariser did. Almost looks like night time to me. -- Vote for Cthulhu. Why settle for a lesser evil... -- Dr. Jerry Pournelle -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: Australia Trip -- New Lens
There was also an F 70-210 at KEH for a bit more than I'd pay, well at least it was there yesterday, but it's a fantastic lens... Brian Walters wrote: Quoting Christian [EMAIL PROTECTED]: Corey Leopold wrote: Next May I have a trip planned for Australia and New Zealand. Pretty much going to hit the tourist spots, Sydney, Ayers Rock, Cairns, Christchurch... I'm looking to pick up another lens between now and then for my K10D, I was wondering anyone had any recommendations? I currently have the kit DA 18-55 and an SMC A 35-105 FA* 600mm F4. The bird life in Oz is fantastic. Yeah - but he wants to have some funds left to pay for the trip I don't know if anyone else has mentioned it but the FA 80-320 is a remarkably good lens for the price, and would complement the other lenses nicely. Cheers Brian ++ Brian Walters Western Sydney, Australia http://members.westnet.com.au/brianwal/SL/ -- Get a free email address with REAL anti-spam protection. http://www.bluebottle.com/tag/1 -- Vote for Cthulhu. Why settle for a lesser evil... -- Dr. Jerry Pournelle -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: GESO: Today :D
- Original Message - From: Mark Roberts [EMAIL PROTECTED] Paul Stenquist wrote: On Feb 24, 2008, at 5:21 PM, Cotty wrote: On 24/02/08, Timber, discombobulated, unleashed: http://www.pbase.com/timbercode/image/93375973 That is one superb picture of a duck. Excellent. What Cotty said. Great shooting. Beautiful rendering. Indeed. Really splendid. (Sigh. If only it were a cormorant...) ;-) Just back from sunny Plovdiv and deleted a couple of thousand of backed up messages. Just ran across this reply to Timber's original post, and all I can say is beautiful. That's a great shot, Timber. -- Thanks, DougF (KG4LMZ) -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: Why I like this list
I love you too... On Tue, Feb 26, 2008 at 3:30 AM, P. J. Alling [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Hey, get a room. David Savage wrote: I love you man... D On Mon, Feb 25, 2008 at 7:34 PM, Derby Chang [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I've been having dalliances with a few other photo lists lately (new camera systems you know). -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: GESO - Serbian Demonstration
frank theriault wrote: My response was, well, if in doubt, picket the Americans, because somewhere someone could surely blame them for something... God created pigs so Man could enjoy Smithfield ham. God created Americans so everyone would always have someone to blame, sometimes rightly. :-) -- Thanks, DougF (KG4LMZ) -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: Trading resolution for high ISO
On Sun, Feb 24, 2008 at 11:05:04PM +0800, Sandy Harris wrote: On Fri, Feb 1, 2008 at 2:51 PM, John Francis [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: So given, say, a K20D with its 14 Mp, can we somehow combine sets of four dots to get a 3.5 Mp image with better performance in available darkness? Or would this also push noise up, perhaps to awfuI levels? How much would you gain? Four times the pixel area, so in theory two stops, but would that happen in practice? That's not how it works. When you add four pixels, each with a random noise component, you only improve the signal-to-noise ratio by a factor of two, not by a factor of four. So theory says the best you could hope for is one stop of improvement. That's counter-intuitive to me. You've got four times the signal and four times the noise, so I cannot see why S/N ratio should change at all. Can you explain the theory or point to a reference? It's pretty simple. While the signal is correlated, so adding two pixels worth of signal gives you twice the value, the noise isn't. When you add the (random) noise from two sample sites the values may add, or they may cancel each other out. For more details try any basic statistics textbook. -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: Australia Trip -- New Lens
On Mon, Feb 25, 2008 at 4:22 PM, mike wilson [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Did you gain any virtual dignity? With Cesar? Dignity? Surely you jest! cheers, frank ;-) -- Sharpness is a bourgeois concept. -Henri Cartier-Bresson -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: GESO - Serbian Demonstration
William Robb wrote: Short sighted politics is the problem, not politics per se. tongue-in-cheek If politics is the answer, you're asking the wrong question. /tongue-in-cheek -- Thanks, DougF (KG4LMZ) -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Woo Hoo, it's here
UPS man brought the K20D from Calumet Photo this afternoon...battery is charging. Initial impressions: Huge 250 page instruction book - much worse that I remember for the K10D. (30 page Quick Start booklet included.) Remote assistant 3 included along with PictureBridge Photolab 3 Nearly identical to the K10D - will be difficult to tell them apart by feel. More options on the set-up screens and haven't touched custom settings yet. Picture display goes to 32X zoom vs 20x? for the K10D...seems like lots more detail. It's a mighty big sensor folks! More tomorrow. Regards, Bob S. -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: Lunch Break (QTVR Pano)
Very nice, Dave. I'm looking out my window right now it's snowing with some rain. Ugh. But great to see your photos. Cheers, Christine - Original Message - From: David Savage [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net Sent: Monday, February 25, 2008 2:21 AM Subject: PESO: Lunch Break (QTVR Pano) G'day All, Hope this finds you warm dry. (~390kb): http://www.arach.net.au/~savage/Misc/0038.mov ;-) It's kinda funky what the polariser did. Almost looks like night time to me. Cheers, Dave -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions. -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: GESO - Serbian Demonstration
- Original Message - From: Charles Robinson Subject: Re: GESO - Serbian Demonstration http://tinyurl.com/34aw3j http://bp0.blogger.com/_EaTEtfR4WJw/R8LF9kgqgjI/BkE/V8LI0Ar29us/s1600-h/feb_25_08+007.jpg This one I didn't understand. What the heck does he mean? It's kind of the protest version of Godwin's Law. William Robb -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: GESO - Serbian Demonstration
Well done, Frank. More great photos. I like 1 3 best. Enjoyed seeing these. Cheers, Christine - Original Message - From: frank theriault [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net Sent: Monday, February 25, 2008 8:16 AM Subject: GESO - Serbian Demonstration A counterpoint to Bob's gallery last week showing the joy of ex-pat Kosovonians (?) in London. On Saturday in Toronto, Serbs demonstrated in front the the American Consulate. I happened to be walking in the area, and happened to have my camera. The mood was somewhat less ebulent: http://tinyurl.com/2q7dup http://bp2.blogger.com/_EaTEtfR4WJw/R8LDyEgqgVI/BiU/S_lAubZ4Vbw/s1600-h/feb_25_08+003.jpg http://tinyurl.com/34aw3j http://bp0.blogger.com/_EaTEtfR4WJw/R8LF9kgqgjI/BkE/V8LI0Ar29us/s1600-h/feb_25_08+007.jpg http://tinyurl.com/35wmgp http://bp2.blogger.com/_EaTEtfR4WJw/R8LF-EgqgkI/BkM/iSQMOFc6kNI/s1600-h/feb_25_08+008.jpg http://tinyurl.com/2q7p74 http://bp2.blogger.com/_EaTEtfR4WJw/R8LGIEgqglI/BkU/KmrDAl64NOw/s1600-h/feb_25_08+009.jpg http://tinyurl.com/35v6k6 http://bp3.blogger.com/_EaTEtfR4WJw/R8LFjUgqgfI/Bjk/wh7ngHcLanw/s1600-h/feb_25_08+006.jpg http://tinyurl.com/2soodc http://bp3.blogger.com/_EaTEtfR4WJw/R8LDdUgqgUI/BiM/b8kmicxE-0Y/s1600-h/feb_25_08+005.jpg http://tinyurl.com/ytbktd http://bp3.blogger.com/_EaTEtfR4WJw/R8LGPUgqgmI/Bkc/YNc7rUiANoo/s1600-h/feb_25_08+010.jpg and, finally, I managed to find one smiling face: http://tinyurl.com/2587sl http://bp2.blogger.com/_EaTEtfR4WJw/R8LDdEgqgTI/BiE/4BRpu-kGOUo/s1600-h/feb_25_08+004.jpg Comments are always encouraged. Thanks! cheers, frank -- Sharpness is a bourgeois concept. -Henri Cartier-Bresson -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions. -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
