PESO - Sunset

2013-09-21 Thread Bruce Dayton
Taken tonight.  I could tell the clouds were going to cooperate to provide a 
good image - just had to find a location that would work.

http://www.flickr.com/photos/101434682@N06/9849048863/

Pentax K-r
smc PENTAX-DA* 16-50mm F2.8 ED AL


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Re: You didn't hear it from me...

2013-09-21 Thread P.J. Alling
Alright, I'm going to add this comment here, having perused the rest of 
the thread.


I find it a little amusing that people on this list keep referring to 
Pentax dosing something, (that includes me by the way).  Pentax isn't 
going to do anything.  Pentax no longer exists.  There isn't even a 
Pentax division of Ricoh anymore.  All we can hope is that Ricoh, 
designs builds and markets K mount cameras a little smarter than Pentax 
and then Hoya did, though history doesn't offer a lot of hope there.


Ricoh seems to think that their own brand is the prestige photographic 
brand compared with Pentax and they've made a conscious effort to make 
Pentax a secondary brand.  Unfortunately, I don't think this bodes all 
that well for the future, it seems like a bad marketing decision.  I've 
seen a lot of those from Pentax over the years, I suppose that it's good 
to see that Ricoh has decided to carry on at least some of Pentax's 
traditions.


On 9/20/2013 5:12 AM, Tanya Love wrote:

But, K3 - October.

That's all I'm saying... :-)

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PESO: Jacquie and Elvio

2013-09-21 Thread Philip Northeast


Last weekend  with the K10D and DA* 50-135mm zoom

http://www.flickr.com/photos/27281712@N08/9848692955/


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Re: PESO: Jacquie and Elvio

2013-09-21 Thread Bulent Celasun
A beautiful portrait.
Perfect narrow DOF, lovely colors, good composition.
Nice couple, as well :)

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 Last weekend  with the K10D and DA* 50-135mm zoom

 http://www.flickr.com/photos/27281712@N08/9848692955/


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Re: You didn't hear it from me...

2013-09-21 Thread Stan Halpin

On Sep 21, 2013, at 2:42 AM, P.J. Alling wrote:
 ... Pentax no longer exists.  There isn't even a Pentax division of Ricoh 
 anymore.  All we can hope is that Ricoh, designs builds and markets K mount 
 cameras a little smarter than Pentax and then Hoya did, though history 
 doesn't offer a lot of hope there.
 
 Ricoh seems to think that their own brand is the prestige photographic brand 
 compared with Pentax and they've made a conscious effort to make Pentax a 
 secondary brand.  Unfortunately, I don't think this bodes all that well for 
 the future, it seems like a bad marketing decision...

 On 9/20/2013 5:12 AM, Tanya Love wrote:
 But, K3 - October.
 
 That's all I'm saying... :-)
 
 Sent from my iPhone
 
 
 

Does Ricoh make cameras other than those branded Pentax? That is a half serious 
question; I know from discussion here that there is some sort of Ricoh camera 
division that has been in business for a few(?) years. But I have no 
recollection of ever seeing a Ricoh camera, ever seeing an ad for one or a 
listing in a 5th Street Camera ad, ever hearing anybody talk about one. It 
baffles me to think that a product or product line that I as a somewhat aware 
consumer is unfamiliar with can be a prestige photographic brand. Don't you 
have to be known first before you can be accorded Prestige status?

stan


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Fw: PESO: Red-tailed Hawk

2013-09-21 Thread Jack Davis


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Sent: Friday, September 20, 2013 12:08 PM
Subject: Re: PESO: Red-tailed Hawk

As has been true for awhile now, in late fall and winter, I make numerous trips 
to a CA State Wildlife Area (Gray Lodge) located about 25 miles from my 
home.I'm fortunate to have been able to haunt the area and, as a result, post a 
mess of goose, duck, hawk and eagle shots collected in the last several years.
Safe to say that all have been taken in bursts with the AF set to C. Gear is 
a K-5 w/DA 55~300. I took a turn around the visitor loop yesterday and found 
that the place is being flooded and an advance population of ducks has made it 
in.

Thanks for your remarks and interest, Bruce.

Jack.
.

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Subject: Re: PESO: Red-tailed Hawk

Looks like a Red-Tailed to me but more importantly the shot is very cool!  Wish 
it was mine.  I would like to hear more details about the shot. 

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 On Sep 20, 2013, at 9:13 AM, Jack Davis jdavi...@yahoo.com wrote:
 
 Red-tailed Hawk. I believe(?)  Taken last fall.
  
 http://photolightimages.com/aspupload/detail.asp?ID=711
  
 Jack
 
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PESO - Absaroka Range

2013-09-21 Thread Brian Walters

G'day all

Just a late afternoon scene in rural Montana:

https://dl.dropboxusercontent.com/u/1370864/PESO/slides/_IGP3638-K5-1peso.html

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Re: You didn't hear it from me...

2013-09-21 Thread Attila Boros
On Sat, Sep 21, 2013 at 2:40 PM, Stan Halpin
s...@stans-photography.info wrote:

 Does Ricoh make cameras other than those branded Pentax? That is a half 
 serious question; I know from discussion here that there is some sort of Ricoh
 camera division that has been in business for a few(?) years. But I have no 
 recollection of ever seeing a Ricoh camera, ever seeing an ad for one or a 
 listing
 in a 5th Street Camera ad, ever hearing anybody talk about one. It baffles me 
 to think that a product or product line that I as a somewhat aware consumer
 is unfamiliar with can be a prestige photographic brand. Don't you have to be 
 known first before you can be accorded Prestige status?

The Ricoh GR seems to be a rather nice compact
http://www.dpreview.com/previews/ricoh-gr
And they just announced the Theta https://theta360.com/en/concept/

Other than that, I have no idea, but Godfrey mentioned the GXR. What's
more interesting though that I could pick up the GR from what was the
official Pentax distributor, and I heard one of the reasons Ricoh
bought Pentax was their distribution channels. If this is true, and we
all know that Pentax distribution was not stellar, no wonder you never
heard of Ricoh cameras. Apparently they are little known in Europe and
even less in the US.

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Re: You didn't hear it from me...

2013-09-21 Thread Alan C

You'll probably feel better now that you have been dosed!

Alan

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From: P.J. Alling

Sent: Saturday, September 21, 2013 8:42 AM
To: Pentax-Discuss Mail List
Subject: Re: You didn't hear it from me...

Alright, I'm going to add this comment here, having perused the rest of
the thread.

I find it a little amusing that people on this list keep referring to
Pentax dosing something, (that includes me by the way).  Pentax isn't
going to do anything.  Pentax no longer exists.  There isn't even a
Pentax division of Ricoh anymore.  All we can hope is that Ricoh,
designs builds and markets K mount cameras a little smarter than Pentax
and then Hoya did, though history doesn't offer a lot of hope there.

Ricoh seems to think that their own brand is the prestige photographic
brand compared with Pentax and they've made a conscious effort to make
Pentax a secondary brand.  Unfortunately, I don't think this bodes all
that well for the future, it seems like a bad marketing decision.  I've
seen a lot of those from Pentax over the years, I suppose that it's good
to see that Ricoh has decided to carry on at least some of Pentax's
traditions.

On 9/20/2013 5:12 AM, Tanya Love wrote:

But, K3 - October.

That's all I'm saying... :-)

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Re: PESO - Absaroka Range

2013-09-21 Thread Attila Boros
Nice rainbow. There sure is a pot of gold somewhere in that valley:-)

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 G'day all

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 https://dl.dropboxusercontent.com/u/1370864/PESO/slides/_IGP3638-K5-1peso.html

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Re: You didn't hear it from me...

2013-09-21 Thread Paul Stenquist

On Sep 21, 2013, at 2:42 AM, P.J. Alling webstertwenty...@gmail.com wrote:

 Alright, I'm going to add this comment here, having perused the rest of the 
 thread.
 
 I find it a little amusing that people on this list keep referring to Pentax 
 dosing something, (that includes me by the way).  Pentax isn't going to do 
 anything.  Pentax no longer exists.  

That's like saying Cadillac doesn't exist because it's a brand of General 
Motors. You probably don't remember, but Pentax was once a brand of Asahi. The 
sky isn't falling.

Paul


 There isn't even a Pentax division of Ricoh anymore.  All we can hope is that 
 Ricoh, designs builds and markets K mount cameras a little smarter than 
 Pentax and then Hoya did, though history doesn't offer a lot of hope there.
 
 Ricoh seems to think that their own brand is the prestige photographic brand 
 compared with Pentax and they've made a conscious effort to make Pentax a 
 secondary brand.  Unfortunately, I don't think this bodes all that well for 
 the future, it seems like a bad marketing decision.  I've seen a lot of those 
 from Pentax over the years, I suppose that it's good to see that Ricoh has 
 decided to carry on at least some of Pentax's traditions.
 
 On 9/20/2013 5:12 AM, Tanya Love wrote:
 But, K3 - October.
 
 That's all I'm saying... :-)
 
 Sent from my iPhone
 
 
 
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Re: PESO - Absaroka Range

2013-09-21 Thread Jack Davis
YES!  Very nice, Brian.
 
Jack


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Subject: PESO - Absaroka Range

G'day all

Just a late afternoon scene in rural Montana:

https://dl.dropboxusercontent.com/u/1370864/PESO/slides/_IGP3638-K5-1peso.html

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Re: You didn't hear it from me...

2013-09-21 Thread John

On 9/20/2013 8:07 PM, Paul Stenquist wrote:


On Sep 20, 2013, at 7:25 PM, Tanya Love tanyal...@bigpond.com wrote:


My source tells me 20-24mp sensor, no FF (yet), and due October. Better af,
possibly tethering, possibly faster flash sync speed, possibly dual slots.


All pretty obvious, except perhaps the dual slots.


645D has dual slots, so it is/was just a matter of time before it 
appears in Pentax's top of the line DSLR.





Tethering is a massive issue for me, and they wouldn't confirm that for me,
but did allude to it.

And now I've already said way too much and could get into big trouble, so
going back into hiding again. X


I wouldn't worry. Nothing new here.




(PS Eye-Fi Cards totally suck for tethering, whether it be jpg or RAW. :( )

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That is a combination I have thought about Paul. And it would require much
less up-front investment than a new camera body or two . . .

stan

On Sep 20, 2013, at 4:12 PM, Paul Sorenson wrote:


How about this...

Eye-Fi Pro card - set to transfer only JPGs

Shoot RAW+JPG with JPGs set to smallest file size

Let the built-in wi-fi transfer from the card to the iPad.  No need for a

card reader and the small JPGs transfer fairly quickly.


Then run the JPGs through Photosmith as planned.

-p

On 9/20/2013 1:58 PM, Stan Halpin wrote:



I have been thinking through issues with my workflow when I travel.

Considering how to leave behind my laptop and travel just with iPad. One
quite appealing approach is to shoot jpeg+RAW, download the jpeg's to the
iPad, tag and sort on the iPad (Photosmith app), then download the RAW files
to main computer back home and synch the metadata. All this is pretty
straightforward if there are two cards: RAW's go to one card, jpeg's to the
other.




but Pentax doesn't really need me, they need new customers, so it's

probably most important how it will appeal to people who haven't already got
a K-5-level camera





Something else that would interest me: remember tethering? Pentax used to

have tethering capability on early DSLR's. Top-end modern cameras have
wireless tethering to iPads or smartphones. It would be nice if Pentax were
to rediscover tethering and join that group . . .


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Re: You didn't hear it from me...

2013-09-21 Thread John
Apropos nothing Willie Nelson singing Blue Eyes Crying In The Rain 
started playing as soon as I began reading this message...


On 9/20/2013 7:27 PM, Tanya Love wrote:

Oh, one other thing - it will likely be  a Ricoh branded camera, with
Pentax as the model, much the same way as Canon has EOS.  If they don't
do this in time for the K3, it will be on all future models though.

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That is a combination I have thought about Paul. And it would require much
less up-front investment than a new camera body or two . . .

stan

On Sep 20, 2013, at 4:12 PM, Paul Sorenson wrote:


How about this...

Eye-Fi Pro card - set to transfer only JPGs

Shoot RAW+JPG with JPGs set to smallest file size

Let the built-in wi-fi transfer from the card to the iPad.  No need for a

card reader and the small JPGs transfer fairly quickly.


Then run the JPGs through Photosmith as planned.

-p

On 9/20/2013 1:58 PM, Stan Halpin wrote:



I have been thinking through issues with my workflow when I travel.

Considering how to leave behind my laptop and travel just with iPad. One
quite appealing approach is to shoot jpeg+RAW, download the jpeg's to the
iPad, tag and sort on the iPad (Photosmith app), then download the RAW files
to main computer back home and synch the metadata. All this is pretty
straightforward if there are two cards: RAW's go to one card, jpeg's to the
other.




but Pentax doesn't really need me, they need new customers, so it's

probably most important how it will appeal to people who haven't already got
a K-5-level camera





Something else that would interest me: remember tethering? Pentax used to

have tethering capability on early DSLR's. Top-end modern cameras have
wireless tethering to iPads or smartphones. It would be nice if Pentax were
to rediscover tethering and join that group . . .


stan






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Re: You didn't hear it from me...

2013-09-21 Thread John

On 9/21/2013 7:40 AM, Stan Halpin wrote:


On Sep 21, 2013, at 2:42 AM, P.J. Alling wrote:

... Pentax no longer exists.  There isn't even a Pentax division of
Ricoh anymore.  All we can hope is that Ricoh, designs builds and
markets K mount cameras a little smarter than Pentax and then Hoya
did, though history doesn't offer a lot of hope there.

Ricoh seems to think that their own brand is the prestige
photographic brand compared with Pentax and they've made a
conscious effort to make Pentax a secondary brand.  Unfortunately,
I don't think this bodes all that well for the future, it seems
like a bad marketing decision...



On 9/20/2013 5:12 AM, Tanya Love wrote:

But, K3 - October.

That's all I'm saying... :-)

Sent from my iPhone






Does Ricoh make cameras other than those branded Pentax? That is a
half serious question; I know from discussion here that there is some
sort of Ricoh camera division that has been in business for a few(?)
years. But I have no recollection of ever seeing a Ricoh camera, ever
seeing an ad for one or a listing in a 5th Street Camera ad, ever
hearing anybody talk about one. It baffles me to think that a product
or product line that I as a somewhat aware consumer is unfamiliar
with can be a prestige photographic brand. Don't you have to be known
first before you can be accorded Prestige status?

stan




According to Ricoh's web site they make cameras along with copiers,
software, and industrial security equipment. Actually, the one thing
missing from Ricoh's web site is any mention of Pentax.

http://www.ricoh.com/products/

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Re: PESO - Absaroka Range

2013-09-21 Thread Paul Stenquist
Beautiful. Love the contrasting light and deep color.
Paul
On Sep 21, 2013, at 8:23 AM, Brian Walters apathy...@lyons-ryan.org wrote:

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 Just a late afternoon scene in rural Montana:
 
 https://dl.dropboxusercontent.com/u/1370864/PESO/slides/_IGP3638-K5-1peso.html
 
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Re: Poll: What is the best, iyo, modern Pentax-brand zoom

2013-09-21 Thread J.C. O'Connell

On 9/20/2013 1:53 PM, P.J. Alling wrote:

Unfortunately they no longer qualify as modern.

On 9/10/2013 8:32 AM, J.C. O'Connell wrote:

On 9/10/2013 8:17 AM, CollinB wrote:

I've seen some awfully nice renderings from the DA* 16-50/2.8.  Quite
impressive.
Just out of my price range at the moment.
But I wonder ... what's your favorite?



the two best pentax zooms I have are the 35-105f3.5 A and the 24-50f4 A





thankfully they arent

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Re: You didn't hear it from me...

2013-09-21 Thread Attila Boros
On Sat, Sep 21, 2013 at 4:15 PM, John johnsess...@yahoo.com wrote:
 According to Ricoh's web site they make cameras along with copiers,
 software, and industrial security equipment. Actually, the one thing
 missing from Ricoh's web site is any mention of Pentax.

 http://www.ricoh.com/products/

You need to look _very_ carefully, http://www.ricoh.com/r_dc/ scroll
down and you will see links to pentax.jp which redirects to
ricoh-imaging.co.jp. I'd say the marketing department dropped the ball
and the QA guys were on sick leave when the site went live. Let me
save you the trouble: http://www.ricoh-imaging.co.jp/english/products/

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Re: PESO - Absaroka Range

2013-09-21 Thread John

Nice. Very Galen Rowell.

On 9/21/2013 8:23 AM, Brian Walters wrote:

G'day all

Just a late afternoon scene in rural Montana:

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Re: You didn't hear it from me...

2013-09-21 Thread David J Brooks
There are more discontinued items than continued items.

Dave

On Sat, Sep 21, 2013 at 9:29 AM, Attila Boros attila.p...@gmail.com wrote:
 On Sat, Sep 21, 2013 at 4:15 PM, John johnsess...@yahoo.com wrote:
 According to Ricoh's web site they make cameras along with copiers,
 software, and industrial security equipment. Actually, the one thing
 missing from Ricoh's web site is any mention of Pentax.

 http://www.ricoh.com/products/

 You need to look _very_ carefully, http://www.ricoh.com/r_dc/ scroll
 down and you will see links to pentax.jp which redirects to
 ricoh-imaging.co.jp. I'd say the marketing department dropped the ball
 and the QA guys were on sick leave when the site went live. Let me
 save you the trouble: http://www.ricoh-imaging.co.jp/english/products/

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Re: You didn't hear it from me...

2013-09-21 Thread Darren Addy
I like how on the http://www.us.ricoh-imaging.com/ site, the front
page images feature at least one discontinued camera and they are
promoting lens rebates that ended three weeks ago.

On Sat, Sep 21, 2013 at 8:38 AM, David J Brooks pentko...@gmail.com wrote:
 There are more discontinued items than continued items.

 Dave

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 According to Ricoh's web site they make cameras along with copiers,
 software, and industrial security equipment. Actually, the one thing
 missing from Ricoh's web site is any mention of Pentax.

 http://www.ricoh.com/products/

 You need to look _very_ carefully, http://www.ricoh.com/r_dc/ scroll
 down and you will see links to pentax.jp which redirects to
 ricoh-imaging.co.jp. I'd say the marketing department dropped the ball
 and the QA guys were on sick leave when the site went live. Let me
 save you the trouble: http://www.ricoh-imaging.co.jp/english/products/

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Re: PESO: Jacquie and Elvio

2013-09-21 Thread Bruce
Technically excellent.  On top of that the pose and expressions are great!   
All around a wonderful shot.  The couple should be very pleased with it. 

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 Last weekend  with the K10D and DA* 50-135mm zoom
 
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Re: PESO - Absaroka Range

2013-09-21 Thread Bruce
The lighting and rainbow give this scene the needed oomph to propel it beyond 
ordinary.  It really captures my attention.  Nicely done!

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 Just a late afternoon scene in rural Montana:
 
 https://dl.dropboxusercontent.com/u/1370864/PESO/slides/_IGP3638-K5-1peso.html
 
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OT: Strange plants of Socotra Island

2013-09-21 Thread Aahz Maruch
Warning: some weird JavaScript/CSS means you may need to scroll up/down
several times to get some of the images to load

http://www.binscorner.com/pages/s/strange-plants-of-socotra-island.html
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Re: PESO: Jacquie and Elvio

2013-09-21 Thread Bruce Walker
An excellent couple portrait, Philip.

I'd crop about 10% off the top of it.

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Re: OT - Engagement photos with zombies

2013-09-21 Thread Aahz Maruch
Naw, Anita's better.

On Fri, Sep 20, 2013, John wrote:

 Buffy was vampires. If you've got a zombie infestation call Daryl.
 
 Even I know that, and I don't have a TV.
 
 On 9/20/2013 2:56 PM, P.J. Alling wrote:
 What the hell is it with Undead?  Where the hell is Buffy when we need her?
 
 On 9/9/2013 5:47 PM, Igor Roshchin wrote:
 
 It looks like there is a new trend to have engagement/wedding
 photos taken with zombies:
 
 http://www.viralnova.com/zombie-engagement-shoot/
 
 And this seems to be the original series:
 http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2011/08/22/zombie-engagement-photos_n_933398.html
 
 or here:
 http://mlkshk.com/p/69H1
 
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Re: PUG Themes for 2014

2013-09-21 Thread Christine Aguila
Just checked out the Exhibition title generator and got this:  Extravagant 
Dilettantes:  Media Art and Dilettantism.

I think Bill's right.  Could very well be an interesting gallery!

Brian, lots to like in the list.  I like Ken's suggestions as well.  

I say you go for it Brian and pick.  

Cheers, Christine




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 G'day all
 
 It's that time again.  Bob's recent post 'Self Assignments - PUG' jogged my 
 memory that we need to decide on PUG themes for 2014.
 
 Based on suggestions made in previous years plus a few I've come across on 
 other sites, here's a short list of possibilities.  Please feel free to 
 suggest others:
 
 Open Gallery (this one is a definite starter)
 Best of 2013
 Feathered Friends
 Incomplete
 Cold (or Winter)
 Decrepit
 Close but no cigar (photos that didn't quite make it.)
 Oddness
 Ball Games
 Circular
 Wind
 Up
 Tilted
 Twilight Zone
 Synchronicity
 Transport
 Still Life
 Simplicity
 Random Exhibition Title Generator 
 (http://www.mit.edu/~ruchill/lazycurator.html)
 Rainbows
 On the streets
 Sheds
 Motion
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What is the best, iyo, modern Pentax brand Zoom

2013-09-21 Thread Bipin Gupta
I mostly use the Sigma 10-20 f4-5.6 EX DC and the Pentax DA 18-135
f3.5- 5.6 WR. Both my lenses are excellent copies and tack sharp.
Note: I get a combined seamless focal length from 10 to 135 mm (15 to
200 mm in APS-C term), covering my genre of Street, Travel,
Architecture and Landscape Photography - 85% in of the time - 50/50
ratio.
For that balance 15% low light situation shoots, I use the brutally
sharp Tamron 28-75 f2.8 lens.
And for that odd sports, wildlife, naval or air show shoot, I use the
Sigma 70-300 DL Macro I purchased for a song from KEH - an excellent 
sharp copy.
Happy that I have covered all my bases including inclement weather
shoots for cheap.
Regards.
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Re: You didn't hear it from me...

2013-09-21 Thread Bob W
On 21 Sep 2013, at 13:39, Attila Boros attila.p...@gmail.com wrote:
 
 On Sat, Sep 21, 2013 at 2:40 PM, Stan Halpin
 s...@stans-photography.info wrote:
 
 Does Ricoh make cameras other than those branded Pentax? That is a half 
 serious question; I know from discussion here that there is some sort of 
 Ricoh
 camera division that has been in business for a few(?) years. But I have no 
 recollection of ever seeing a Ricoh camera, ever seeing an ad for one or a 
 listing
 in a 5th Street Camera ad, ever hearing anybody talk about one. It baffles 
 me to think that a product or product line that I as a somewhat aware 
 consumer
 is unfamiliar with can be a prestige photographic brand. Don't you have to 
 be known first before you can be accorded Prestige status?
 
 The Ricoh GR seems to be a rather nice compact
 http://www.dpreview.com/previews/ricoh-gr
 And they just announced the Theta https://theta360.com/en/concept/
 
 Other than that, I have no idea, but Godfrey mentioned the GXR. What's
 more interesting though that I could pick up the GR from what was the
 official Pentax distributor, and I heard one of the reasons Ricoh
 bought Pentax was their distribution channels. If this is true, and we
 all know that Pentax distribution was not stellar, no wonder you never
 heard of Ricoh cameras. Apparently they are little known in Europe and
 even less in the US.
 

They are readily available in London and have been as long as I can remember. I 
have a Ricoh GR-1, which is a very good camera, and I think quite a few PDMLers 
have had Ricoh kit over the years. Their SLRs were quite well thought of, iirc.

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Re: You didn't hear it from me...

2013-09-21 Thread steve harley

on 2013-09-21 7:15 John wrote

According to Ricoh's web site they make cameras along with copiers, [...]


i have a search on local craigslist for Ricoh (mainly because people selling 
old bodies sometimes include good Pentax lenses without mentioning the brand), 
and the majority of what it picks up are copiers, followed by the old bodies, 
plus once every few months a Ricoh digicam




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Re: PESO - Absaroka Range

2013-09-21 Thread Bob W
Looks like (photos of) Tibet.

B

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 Just a late afternoon scene in rural Montana:
 
 https://dl.dropboxusercontent.com/u/1370864/PESO/slides/_IGP3638-K5-1peso.html
 
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Re: PESO - Sunset

2013-09-21 Thread Bob Sullivan
Bruce,
Very nice.  I like the light off the water on the right.
It adds some dimension to the shot and counterpoint to the clouds.
It looks like you've been doing some good work in that gallery.
Regards,  Bob S.

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 Taken tonight.  I could tell the clouds were going to cooperate to provide a 
 good image - just had to find a location that would work.

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Re: OT: Strange plants of Socotra Island

2013-09-21 Thread Bob W
Looks like an interesting place. Turn left at Erewhon, then straight past 
Atlantis, pretty soon you'll be in Fotoshopia.

B

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Re: OT: Strange plants of Socotra Island

2013-09-21 Thread steve harley

on 2013-09-21 9:03 Aahz Maruch wrote

Warning: some weird JavaScript/CSS means you may need to scroll up/down
several times to get some of the images to load

http://www.binscorner.com/pages/s/strange-plants-of-socotra-island.html


i'm a sucker for strange plants, thanks!

you might have also warned  folks about the cormorants ;?

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Re: You didn't hear it from me...

2013-09-21 Thread Bob W
There are more dead people than living people.

B

 On 21 Sep 2013, at 14:38, David J Brooks pentko...@gmail.com wrote:
 
 There are more discontinued items than continued items.
 
 Dave
 
 On Sat, Sep 21, 2013 at 9:29 AM, Attila Boros attila.p...@gmail.com wrote:
 On Sat, Sep 21, 2013 at 4:15 PM, John johnsess...@yahoo.com wrote:
 According to Ricoh's web site they make cameras along with copiers,
 software, and industrial security equipment. Actually, the one thing
 missing from Ricoh's web site is any mention of Pentax.
 
 http://www.ricoh.com/products/
 
 You need to look _very_ carefully, http://www.ricoh.com/r_dc/ scroll
 down and you will see links to pentax.jp which redirects to
 ricoh-imaging.co.jp. I'd say the marketing department dropped the ball
 and the QA guys were on sick leave when the site went live. Let me
 save you the trouble: http://www.ricoh-imaging.co.jp/english/products/
 
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Anyone have the Pentax X-5?

2013-09-21 Thread Eactivist
Sort of narrowing down my choices for my main  camera system.

But been looking at having a little fixed lens camera for  travel 
situations (like Disneyland where you don't want to lug around a big  camera).

The Pentax X-5 seems a lot of value for a little camera. Does  have a 
smaller sensor, but supposed to take good pics. If I my back-up camera is  
Pentax, I can get in the PUG now and then too. Heh.

Anyway, anyone have  one? Like it?

The Pentax Q might be an option too, although I have my  doubts (yes, know 
it takes interchangeable lenses), but has the X-5 is a little  cheaper. 
Heck, it's downright cheap.

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Re: PESO - Anna at the window

2013-09-21 Thread Eactivist
Nice shot. Nice light.

But guess I can't  look at it now, it's Saturday morning. ;-)

Marnie aka Doe 

In a  message dated 9/20/2013 2:25:46 P.M. Pacific Daylight Time,  
d...@dougbrewerphotography.com writes:
For your Friday evening  viewing

https://plus.google.com/115347824062413314605/posts/D1Q99RWiQnd

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Re: PESO - Absaroka Range

2013-09-21 Thread Eactivist
Nice one. If it was me, I'd lighten up the hills  in the back a tad. Yes, 
raining and all that, but I still would - to make  rainbow pop a bit more.

HTH, Marnie aka Doe :-)

In a message dated  9/21/2013 5:23:29 A.M. Pacific Daylight Time, 
apathy...@lyons-ryan.org  writes:
G'day all

Just a late afternoon scene in rural  Montana:

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Re: PESO - Sunset

2013-09-21 Thread Eactivist
Nice. Great sky.

Marnie aka Doe  :-)

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bkday...@daytonphoto.com writes:
Taken tonight.  I could tell the clouds  were going to cooperate to provide 
a good image - just had to find a location  that would  work.

http://www.flickr.com/photos/101434682@N06/9849048863/

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Re: PESO: Jacquie and Elvio

2013-09-21 Thread Eactivist
That's a very nice portrait shot.

Marnie  aka Doe :-)

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rnort...@bigpond.net.au writes:

Last weekend  with the K10D  and DA* 50-135mm  zoom

http://www.flickr.com/photos/27281712@N08/9848692955/


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Re: PESO - Absaroka Range

2013-09-21 Thread Mark C

Gorgeous light and colors - nice rainbow too!

Mark

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G'day all

Just a late afternoon scene in rural Montana:

https://dl.dropboxusercontent.com/u/1370864/PESO/slides/_IGP3638-K5-1peso.html 



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Re: PESO -- Waiting

2013-09-21 Thread Eactivist
Horses work. Very pleasant shot.

I  enjoyed the dog shot, and figured he was disabled somehow, but couldn't 
figure  out how the wheel actually helped him. Ergo my stupid comment.

HTH,  Marnie aka Doe :-)

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webstertwenty...@gmail.com writes:
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test, (of software  actually).  First acceptable, at least I think it's 
acceptable,  rendering with DXOMark Filmpack 3, Emulating TriX, 35mm 
grain, and a green  filter.

https://dl.dropboxusercontent.com/u/1604247/PESO/PESO%20--%20waiting.html

Equipment:   Pentax K20D w/smc Pentax F 70-210mm f4.0~5.6

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Re: lunchtime comparisons

2013-09-21 Thread Mark C
Interesting observations. I've been using the 28-105 PZ a bit these days 
for film shooting. It is not a bad lens at all but does get a bit soft 
around the edges at the wide end. The rotating front element can also be 
a bit of a pain if you are using a polarizer.


DId you test it on an APS-C DSLR? I've been thinking about a replacement 
/ upgrade but have not yet found anything that I'm convinced will be 
better, especially for film.


I might hold out for a new release - I assume that when Ricoh issues a 
full frame DSLR they will also issue a complete new lineup of FF glass 
optimized for it... :-)


Mark

On 9/18/2013 1:09 PM, CollinB wrote:

I'll put up results when I have time to edit the images for something
practical.
The lenses compared were (1) FA28-105 (pz) (2) 18-55WF (3) K50/1.4 (4)
70/2.4LTD (5) A50/1.7.

First off, at 50mm, I was surprised how well the 28-105  compared to 2,3, 
5.
The full frame was well-rendered.  The A50/1.7's cool cast coatings made for
a bit more contrast.
Sharpness was not a lot different across the range.
But that's at the center of the range of the 28-105 -- which ought to be
expected.

At 70mm it is clearly inferior to the 70.  But it was still quite good.

At 35mm the image rendering was good but there was a lot of color fringing.
Though the FA35/2 also showed some
(this was from white flowers in bright sunshine), it we a fraction of what
the 28-105 produced.

While the 18-55 is very good it isn't quite long enough for my work.  28-105
will allow me to shoot in the lens' strong area of 40mm-80mm for best
results.

Recommendation:  The FA28-105 (pz) is a very good lens.  At the selling
price of around $80 on eBay I can highly recommend it in terms
bang-for-buck.
And if/when FF comes you'll be happy you've got it. ;-)
Would I use it on a pro shoot?  Yes.  And at the price having a backup copy
is not out of the question.
Also, for the dancers I've been shooting the 105mm reach works well.  I need
to go out to about 70mm or there about and this will make the shoots go
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Re: You didn't hear it from me...

2013-09-21 Thread P.J. Alling
Ricoh used to make a line of second string K mount SLRs, prior to that 
they made a line of second string m42 mount SLRs, and apparently they 
marketed a Nikon mount SLR, made by Mamiym.  They put some pretty nice 
technology into them, often the K mount bodies seemed to have somewhat 
better tech and more features than Pentax, and they were pretty nice 
cameras, but there was always something off about their ergonomics.


Back when Pentax still had a presence in most Cameras stores, (not that 
long ago actually), one of the best local camera stores in the area went 
out of business, (they had one of my LXen in for repair, and I was 
worried about getting it back, I did eventually), at their going out of 
business sale they had a used Ricoh, I forget the model number, it 
resembled a Pentax A3 but included a ME Super style button system for 
setting manual shutter speeds IIRC.  This particular camera seemed to be 
pristine condition and the price was certainly right, I was seriously 
considering buying it as a body to carry where I didn't want to risk a 
LX or MX, when one of the buttons simply fell off.  The salesman who I 
knew, (it wasn't a paid liquidator running the sale), said, That seems 
to happen a lot, it just snaps back on. I decided to take a pass.


Ricoh abandoned the SLR market sometime in the 90's.  I don't remember 
when, exactly.  I don't remember any big announcement, such as when 
Yashica stopped making cameras, Ricoh just sort of stopped, making SLRs.




On 9/21/2013 7:40 AM, Stan Halpin wrote:

On Sep 21, 2013, at 2:42 AM, P.J. Alling wrote:

... Pentax no longer exists.  There isn't even a Pentax division of Ricoh 
anymore.  All we can hope is that Ricoh, designs builds and markets K mount 
cameras a little smarter than Pentax and then Hoya did, though history doesn't 
offer a lot of hope there.

Ricoh seems to think that their own brand is the prestige photographic brand 
compared with Pentax and they've made a conscious effort to make Pentax a 
secondary brand.  Unfortunately, I don't think this bodes all that well for the 
future, it seems like a bad marketing decision...
On 9/20/2013 5:12 AM, Tanya Love wrote:

But, K3 - October.

That's all I'm saying... :-)

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Does Ricoh make cameras other than those branded Pentax? That is a half serious 
question; I know from discussion here that there is some sort of Ricoh camera 
division that has been in business for a few(?) years. But I have no 
recollection of ever seeing a Ricoh camera, ever seeing an ad for one or a 
listing in a 5th Street Camera ad, ever hearing anybody talk about one. It 
baffles me to think that a product or product line that I as a somewhat aware 
consumer is unfamiliar with can be a prestige photographic brand. Don't you 
have to be known first before you can be accorded Prestige status?

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Re: Anyone have the Pentax X-5? or Q7?

2013-09-21 Thread Eactivist
Should have put Q7 also in subject  line.

In a message dated 9/21/2013 10:01:53 A.M. Pacific Daylight Time,  
eactiv...@aol.com writes:
Sort of narrowing down my choices for my main   camera system.

But been looking at having a little fixed lens camera  for  travel 
situations (like Disneyland where you don't want to lug  around a big  
camera).

The Pentax X-5 seems a lot of value for a  little camera. Does  have a 
smaller sensor, but supposed to take good  pics. If I my back-up camera is  
Pentax, I can get in the PUG now and  then too. Heh.

Anyway, anyone have  one? Like it?

The Pentax  Q might be an option too, although I have my  doubts (yes, know 
it  takes interchangeable lenses), but has the X-5 is a little  cheaper.  
Heck, it's downright cheap.

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Re: OT: Strange plants of Socotra Island

2013-09-21 Thread Aahz Maruch
On Sat, Sep 21, 2013, steve harley wrote:
 on 2013-09-21 9:03 Aahz Maruch wrote

Warning: some weird JavaScript/CSS means you may need to scroll up/down
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http://www.binscorner.com/pages/s/strange-plants-of-socotra-island.html
 
 i'm a sucker for strange plants, thanks!
 
 you might have also warned  folks about the cormorants ;?

Didn't really notice them.  ;-)
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Re: You didn't hear it from me...

2013-09-21 Thread P.J. Alling
I'm not saying the sky is falling.  I'm just being realistic.  Ricoh 
doesn't seem to be any better at marketing than Pentax was.  More 
importantly they don;t actually seem to have any allegiance to high end 
Cameras as a product.  For Pentax cameras and lenses were the heart and 
soul of the company, even though it wasn't the primary profit center.  
It defined what Pentax was.  Ricoh simply stopped making SLRs one day, 
for them it was no biggie.  That worries me a bit.


You bring up the example of GM and Cadillac, I think a better model is 
GM and SAAB.  SAAB made a car with some unique technologies, a very 
quirky body style, and owned a couple of factories, and a design house, 
that designed SAABs.  SAABs were something of an acquired taste, but 
they were relatively unique. GM bought SAAB, integrated them into their 
European operations so completely that SAAB simply ceased to exist.  The 
unique product became just another high end Opel.  GM decided to sell 
off SAAB after failing to make the mark profitable, but all the new 
buyer got was a couple of factories that were now tooled to make high 
end Opels and a name.


On 9/21/2013 8:45 AM, Paul Stenquist wrote:

On Sep 21, 2013, at 2:42 AM, P.J. Alling webstertwenty...@gmail.com wrote:


Alright, I'm going to add this comment here, having perused the rest of the 
thread.

I find it a little amusing that people on this list keep referring to Pentax 
dosing something, (that includes me by the way).  Pentax isn't going to do 
anything.  Pentax no longer exists.

That's like saying Cadillac doesn't exist because it's a brand of General 
Motors. You probably don't remember, but Pentax was once a brand of Asahi. The 
sky isn't falling.

Paul



There isn't even a Pentax division of Ricoh anymore.  All we can hope is that 
Ricoh, designs builds and markets K mount cameras a little smarter than Pentax 
and then Hoya did, though history doesn't offer a lot of hope there.

Ricoh seems to think that their own brand is the prestige photographic brand 
compared with Pentax and they've made a conscious effort to make Pentax a 
secondary brand.  Unfortunately, I don't think this bodes all that well for the 
future, it seems like a bad marketing decision.  I've seen a lot of those from 
Pentax over the years, I suppose that it's good to see that Ricoh has decided 
to carry on at least some of Pentax's traditions.

On 9/20/2013 5:12 AM, Tanya Love wrote:

But, K3 - October.

That's all I'm saying... :-)

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Re: Anyone have the Pentax X-5?

2013-09-21 Thread Aahz Maruch
On Sat, Sep 21, 2013, eactiv...@aol.com wrote:

 But been looking at having a little fixed lens camera for  travel 
 situations (like Disneyland where you don't want to lug around a big  camera).
 
 The Pentax X-5 seems a lot of value for a little camera. Does  have a 
 smaller sensor, but supposed to take good pics. If I my back-up camera is  
 Pentax, I can get in the PUG now and then too. Heh.

What about the Nikon P7100 or P7800?  (P7100 has shitty OVF and is my
current main camera, P7800 supposedly has better EVF and I'll be getting
one soon-ish for the faster lens -- do NOT touch the P7700 because it
hasn't any viewfiender).

A fair bit smaller than the X-5, better low-light performance (larger
sensor), shorter zoom range.

A similar option would be the Panasonic Lumix DMC-LF1, which is even
smaller, but only has fixed screen instead of articulating.

But getting into the PUG certainly has its appeal!
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Re: Anyone have the Pentax X-5? or Q7?

2013-09-21 Thread P.J. Alling
I don't own one but I did research a while ago, for pretty much the 
reasons you've got. The bottom line appears that the Pentax X-5 is 
really just another bridge camera pretty much like all other bridge 
cameras.  It's a small sensor, though quality is supposed to pretty good 
up to ISO 400.  When it was first released the zoom range on the lens 
was pretty special and it had sensor based anti shake, but since then 
there are a number of cameras in that class with amazing zoom ranges and 
anti shake systems either sensor based or optical.  About the only thing 
it's got going for it is it looks a little like a small K-5, and the 
only thing it's got over the Q is it has an eye level EVF.


On 9/21/2013 1:41 PM, eactiv...@aol.com wrote:

Should have put Q7 also in subject  line.

In a message dated 9/21/2013 10:01:53 A.M. Pacific Daylight Time,
eactiv...@aol.com writes:
Sort of narrowing down my choices for my main   camera system.

But been looking at having a little fixed lens camera  for  travel
situations (like Disneyland where you don't want to lug  around a big
camera).

The Pentax X-5 seems a lot of value for a  little camera. Does  have a
smaller sensor, but supposed to take good  pics. If I my back-up camera is
Pentax, I can get in the PUG now and  then too. Heh.

Anyway, anyone have  one? Like it?

The Pentax  Q might be an option too, although I have my  doubts (yes, know
it  takes interchangeable lenses), but has the X-5 is a little  cheaper.
Heck, it's downright cheap.

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Re: Anyone have the Pentax X-5?

2013-09-21 Thread Kenneth Waller
Marnie, unless you absolutely have to have a Pentax, I'd heartily recommend you 
look at the Nikon Coolpix P7100, a really great little package that has most of 
the features of a mid to low level DSLR with a lens that goes to an effective 
200mm. It's recently out of production but I still see them on the net. Got 
mine a few weeks ago for around $350.


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From: eactiv...@aol.com
Subject: Anyone have the Pentax X-5?

Sort of narrowing down my choices for my main  camera system.

But been looking at having a little fixed lens camera for  travel 
situations (like Disneyland where you don't want to lug around a big  camera).

The Pentax X-5 seems a lot of value for a little camera. Does  have a 
smaller sensor, but supposed to take good pics. If I my back-up camera is  
Pentax, I can get in the PUG now and then too. Heh.

Anyway, anyone have  one? Like it?

The Pentax Q might be an option too, although I have my  doubts (yes, know 
it takes interchangeable lenses), but has the X-5 is a little  cheaper. 
Heck, it's downright cheap.

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Re: Anyone have the Pentax X-5?

2013-09-21 Thread Godfrey DiGiorgi
No interest in X-5 myself. 

My walkabout camera is an Olympus E-PL1 that I picked up body only used for 
$95. A new Olympus 15mm f/8 body-cap lens was $50, and I already had the Ricoh 
GV-2 finder for the Ricoh GXR with A12 28mm camera unit. 

http://farm4.staticflickr.com/3748/9859745064_0ae3102f26_o.jpg

The whole deal weighs 14 oz as you see it there, and is big enough to hold 
steadily. The lens is a fixed aperture 15mm f/8 triplet. It focuses from 
infinity to .3m at the close limit with a little lever, is click-stopped at the 
hyper-focal distance for snap-shooting. When you slide the lever to the red 
mark, it's covered and protected. Light, handy, in body image stabilization ... 
the body takes an EVF if you want to as well, and the lens mount is completely 
compatible with the entire range of Micro-FourThirds lenses and other 
accessories. Image quality is not bad for a cheap triplet lens ... 

http://www.flickr.com/photos/gdgphoto/9859734955/lightbox

Of course, if I want more quality, similar size and a wee bit more weight, an 
Olympus 17mm f/2.8 lens and a 35mm optical viewfinder does an even better job 
on the same body. 

G

On Sep 21, 2013, at 10:01 AM, eactiv...@aol.com wrote:

 Sort of narrowing down my choices for my main  camera system.
 
 But been looking at having a little fixed lens camera for  travel 
 situations (like Disneyland where you don't want to lug around a big  camera).
 
 The Pentax X-5 seems a lot of value for a little camera. Does  have a 
 smaller sensor, but supposed to take good pics. If I my back-up camera is  
 Pentax, I can get in the PUG now and then too. Heh.
 
 Anyway, anyone have  one? Like it?
 
 The Pentax Q might be an option too, although I have my  doubts (yes, know 
 it takes interchangeable lenses), but has the X-5 is a little  cheaper. 
 Heck, it's downright cheap.
 
 Marnie aka Doe :-)   


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Re: Anyone have the Pentax X-5?

2013-09-21 Thread Aahz Maruch
On Sat, Sep 21, 2013, Godfrey DiGiorgi wrote:
 
 My walkabout camera is an Olympus E-PL1 that I picked up body only
 used for $95. A new Olympus 15mm f/8 body-cap lens was $50, and I
 already had the Ricoh GV-2 finder for the Ricoh GXR with A12 28mm
 camera unit.

This is something you REALLY want to try before you buy.  I spent five
minutes with the later model E-PL5 and HATED the ergonomics.
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Re: Anyone have the Pentax X-5?

2013-09-21 Thread Godfrey DiGiorgi

On Sep 21, 2013, at 12:27 PM, Aahz Maruch a...@pobox.com wrote:

 This is something you REALLY want to try before you buy.  I spent five
 minutes with the later model E-PL5 and HATED the ergonomics.

What's to hate? Turn it on, click the lens to the hyperfocal, and press the 
shutter button. Leave the camera on A or iAuto. Done. It's a box with a button 
on it.
We're not talking sophisticated thing here... It's a lot more ergonomic than an 
iPhone for being a camera... ;-)

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Re: Anyone have the Pentax X-5?

2013-09-21 Thread Eactivist
Sheesh! You guys (all who previously answered)  are no help at all. I was 
trying for something small, something Pentax.  Sheesh!

That is much more like, Godfrey, if I am not going to do Pentax  for a 
small travel camera, might as well check out the m3/4.  Thanks.

Marnie aka Doe ;-) The MX-1 is small, cute, and retro. Sheesh!  

In a message dated 9/21/2013 12:24:36 P.M. Pacific Daylight Time,  
godd...@me.com writes:
No interest in X-5 myself. 

My walkabout camera  is an Olympus E-PL1 that I picked up body only used 
for $95. A new Olympus 15mm  f/8 body-cap lens was $50, and I already had the 
Ricoh GV-2 finder for the Ricoh  GXR with A12 28mm camera unit.  

http://farm4.staticflickr.com/3748/9859745064_0ae3102f26_o.jpg

The  whole deal weighs 14 oz as you see it there, and is big enough to hold 
steadily.  The lens is a fixed aperture 15mm f/8 triplet. It focuses from 
infinity to .3m  at the close limit with a little lever, is click-stopped at 
the hyper-focal  distance for snap-shooting. When you slide the lever to the 
red mark, it's  covered and protected. Light, handy, in body image 
stabilization ... the body  takes an EVF if you want to as well, and the lens 
mount 
is completely compatible  with the entire range of Micro-FourThirds lenses 
and other accessories. Image  quality is not bad for a cheap triplet lens ... 
 

http://www.flickr.com/photos/gdgphoto/9859734955/lightbox

Of  course, if I want more quality, similar size and a wee bit more weight, 
an  Olympus 17mm f/2.8 lens and a 35mm optical viewfinder does an even 
better job on  the same body. 

G  


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Re: Anyone have the Pentax X-5?

2013-09-21 Thread Godfrey DiGiorgi
LOL ...Ask a bunch of equipment nerds and you get equipment nerdy answers.  ;-)

I figure that since I have mFT stuff already, a small, light, cheap mFT body 
for a tossable travel lump is just fine. $150 for camera and a new lens seemed 
pretty nice for something that I can just shrug and move on if a truck runs 
over it. 

The Pentax X-5 is a bit of a faux DSLR with a fixed lens. I don't know what's 
retro about it. The Pentax MX-1 is retro and is pretty. That's about all it has 
going for it IMO.

G


On Sep 21, 2013, at 12:36 PM, eactiv...@aol.com wrote:

 Sheesh! You guys (all who previously answered)  are no help at all. I was 
 trying for something small, something Pentax.  Sheesh!
 
 That is much more like, Godfrey, if I am not going to do Pentax  for a 
 small travel camera, might as well check out the m3/4.  Thanks.
 
 Marnie aka Doe ;-) The MX-1 is small, cute, and retro. Sheesh!  


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Re: OT: Strange plants of Socotra Island

2013-09-21 Thread Ann Sanfedele

Aahz - you didn't NOTICE the CORMORANTS??
that's almost grounds for list excommunication. tsk tsk

ann

On 9/21/2013 13:45, Aahz Maruch wrote:

On Sat, Sep 21, 2013, steve harley wrote:

on 2013-09-21 9:03 Aahz Maruch wrote


Warning: some weird JavaScript/CSS means you may need to scroll up/down
several times to get some of the images to load

http://www.binscorner.com/pages/s/strange-plants-of-socotra-island.html


i'm a sucker for strange plants, thanks!

you might have also warned  folks about the cormorants ;?


Didn't really notice them.  ;-)



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Re: You didn't hear it from me...

2013-09-21 Thread Mark Roberts
P.J. Alling wrote:

I'm not saying the sky is falling.  I'm just being realistic.

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Re: Anyone have the Pentax X-5?

2013-09-21 Thread Walter Hamler
NO! NO! NO!  I had one and it was a POS. Go with an Olympus EPL-2 from
some place like Cameta Camera. They have them refurbished sometimes at
really good prices. The 17mm and an optical VF or the electronic
version make for a really good compact combo.

Walt

On Sat, Sep 21, 2013 at 1:01 PM,  eactiv...@aol.com wrote:
 Sort of narrowing down my choices for my main  camera system.

 But been looking at having a little fixed lens camera for  travel
 situations (like Disneyland where you don't want to lug around a big  camera).

 The Pentax X-5 seems a lot of value for a little camera. Does  have a
 smaller sensor, but supposed to take good pics. If I my back-up camera is
 Pentax, I can get in the PUG now and then too. Heh.

 Anyway, anyone have  one? Like it?

 The Pentax Q might be an option too, although I have my  doubts (yes, know
 it takes interchangeable lenses), but has the X-5 is a little  cheaper.
 Heck, it's downright cheap.

 Marnie aka Doe :-)


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Re: Anyone have the Pentax X-5?

2013-09-21 Thread Aahz Maruch
On Sat, Sep 21, 2013, eactiv...@aol.com wrote:

 Sheesh! You guys (all who previously answered)  are no help at all. I was 
 trying for something small, something Pentax.  Sheesh!

Efina, WG-2, WG-10, or VS20 all meet your criteria for small/Pentax, but
they all have serious disadvantages from your previously stated criteria
(particularly the lack of viewfinder).
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PESO - Rubik

2013-09-21 Thread Steve Cottrell
Not really a PESO, more a test shot with the A*85. Handheld in room
lighting, ISO 6400. Easy focussing with peaking on the Rubik's cube,
mono in-camera processing to jpeg. Resized in PS.

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Re: PESO - Rubik

2013-09-21 Thread Walter Hamler
I have been looking at those newer Fuji cameras like the X-M and the
X-A. Just can't pull the trigger yet!

Walt

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Re: PESO - Sunset

2013-09-21 Thread Daniel J. Matyola
Lovely patterns and textures in the clouds.
Dan Matyola
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On Sat, Sep 21, 2013 at 2:22 AM, Bruce Dayton bkday...@daytonphoto.com wrote:
 Taken tonight.  I could tell the clouds were going to cooperate to provide a 
 good image - just had to find a location that would work.

 http://www.flickr.com/photos/101434682@N06/9849048863/

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Re: PESO: Jacquie and Elvio

2013-09-21 Thread Daniel J. Matyola
Nice, balanced composition, pleasant colors, great expressions.
What's not to like?

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On Sat, Sep 21, 2013 at 3:51 AM, Philip Northeast
rnort...@bigpond.net.au wrote:

 Last weekend  with the K10D and DA* 50-135mm zoom

 http://www.flickr.com/photos/27281712@N08/9848692955/


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Re: Anyone have the Pentax X-5?

2013-09-21 Thread Stan Halpin
I had an E-PL2 for a while. Terrible experience. I strongly endorse the notion 
that this is one you really really need to handle for a while before buying. My 
particular problem was the big push here to switch into video mode button 
which was strangely placed right where my thumb wanted to rest when holding the 
camera in viewing position (shooting with EVF). So I had many unintended 
worthless minutes of video and many missed still shots. 

stan

On Sep 21, 2013, at 3:36 PM, Godfrey DiGiorgi wrote:

 
 On Sep 21, 2013, at 12:27 PM, Aahz Maruch a...@pobox.com wrote:
 
 This is something you REALLY want to try before you buy.  I spent five
 minutes with the later model E-PL5 and HATED the ergonomics.
 
 What's to hate? Turn it on, click the lens to the hyperfocal, and press the 
 shutter button. Leave the camera on A or iAuto. Done. It's a box with a 
 button on it.
 We're not talking sophisticated thing here... It's a lot more ergonomic than 
 an iPhone for being a camera... ;-)
 
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Re: PESO - Rubik

2013-09-21 Thread Godfrey DiGiorgi
:-) 

Interesting specular bokeh out of that lens. I'd love to see what it does a 
stop or two down as well. 

G

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 Not really a PESO, more a test shot with the A*85. Handheld in room
 lighting, ISO 6400. Easy focussing with peaking on the Rubik's cube,
 mono in-camera processing to jpeg. Resized in PS.
 
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Re: PESO - Absaroka Range

2013-09-21 Thread Daniel J. Matyola
Very nice!

Is there a part of Montana that is not rural?  I didn't find it.  G

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On Sat, Sep 21, 2013 at 8:43 AM, Attila Boros attila.p...@gmail.com wrote:
 Nice rainbow. There sure is a pot of gold somewhere in that valley:-)

 On Sat, Sep 21, 2013 at 3:23 PM, Brian Walters apathy...@lyons-ryan.org 
 wrote:
 G'day all

 Just a late afternoon scene in rural Montana:

 https://dl.dropboxusercontent.com/u/1370864/PESO/slides/_IGP3638-K5-1peso.html

 Comments welcome.


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Re: Anyone have the Pentax X-5?

2013-09-21 Thread Godfrey DiGiorgi
I guess you never found the Button settings menu where you can turn the video 
button off or assign it to do something useful. I have it set to turn off the 
LCD when I'm using an OVF. 

G

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 buying. My particular problem was the big push here to switch into video 
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Re: PESO - Rubik

2013-09-21 Thread Steve Cottrell
On 21/9/13, Godfrey DiGiorgi, discombobulated, unleashed:

Interesting specular bokeh out of that lens. I'd love to see what it
does a stop or two down as well. 

Some proper stuff soon.

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Re: Anyone have the Pentax X-5?

2013-09-21 Thread Eactivist
Are you sure? Re: X-5, the price is great, and  it has a lot of features, 
and it has that retro look. So I'd be found to find  the controls easily 
enough.

Unless people aren't understanding that I  want a PS for travel purposes. 
This would not be my main camera. I've  decided to stick with Canon for 
another year (just get lighter lenses). None of  the others I've looked at (on 
line) really match, or come close to matching,  DSLRs yet. And, well, I am 
not ready yet to switch to a whole new system, if I  have serious 
reservations. Which I do. Despite the word being verbotten around  here, I've 
been very 
happy with Canon over the years.

Re Oly, yes, a lot  recommend the 17mm for a true compact camera on the 
PENs. But the electronic  viewfinders are expensive, even if you get the camera 
cheap. And I haven't  turned up any used ones yet.

Marnie aka Doe :-)  



In  a message dated 9/21/2013 12:57:46 P.M. Pacific Daylight Time,  
hamlerwal...@gmail.com writes:
NO! NO! NO!  I had one and it was a POS.  Go with an Olympus EPL-2 from
some place like Cameta Camera. They have them  refurbished sometimes at
really good prices. The 17mm and an optical VF or  the electronic
version make for a really good compact  combo.

Walt

On Sat, Sep 21, 2013 at 1:01 PM,   eactiv...@aol.com wrote:
 Sort of narrowing down my choices for  my main  camera system.

 But been looking at having a little  fixed lens camera for  travel
 situations (like Disneyland where you  don't want to lug around a big  
camera).

 The Pentax X-5  seems a lot of value for a little camera. Does  have a
 smaller  sensor, but supposed to take good pics. If I my back-up camera is
  Pentax, I can get in the PUG now and then too. Heh.

 Anyway,  anyone have  one? Like it?

 The Pentax Q might be an option  too, although I have my  doubts (yes, 
know
 it takes interchangeable  lenses), but has the X-5 is a little  cheaper.
 Heck, it's downright  cheap.

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Re: Anyone have the Pentax X-5?

2013-09-21 Thread Eactivist
Never mind, Walt, just found your review on  Amazon, where I've been 
reading mostly favorable reviews, you hated  it.

Heh. Marnie aka Doe :-)

In a message dated 9/21/2013 12:57:46  P.M. Pacific Daylight Time, 
hamlerwal...@gmail.com writes:
NO! NO! NO!   I had one and it was a POS. Go with an Olympus EPL-2 from
some place like  Cameta Camera. They have them refurbished sometimes at
really good prices.  The 17mm and an optical VF or the electronic
version make for a really good  compact combo.

Walt

On Sat, Sep 21, 2013 at 1:01 PM,   eactiv...@aol.com wrote:
 Sort of narrowing down my choices for  my main  camera system.

 But been looking at having a little  fixed lens camera for  travel
 situations (like Disneyland where you  don't want to lug around a big  
camera).

 The Pentax X-5  seems a lot of value for a little camera. Does  have a
 smaller  sensor, but supposed to take good pics. If I my back-up camera is
  Pentax, I can get in the PUG now and then too. Heh.

 Anyway,  anyone have  one? Like it?

 The Pentax Q might be an option  too, although I have my  doubts (yes, 
know
 it takes interchangeable  lenses), but has the X-5 is a little  cheaper.
 Heck, it's downright  cheap.

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Re: Anyone have the Pentax X-5?

2013-09-21 Thread Walter Hamler
Yes, I am sure the one I had was crap. The concept is good and with
sensor technology what it is these days it should have been a winner.
But it was very bad! I shot hundreds of pics with it and only one was
somewhat OK. The electronic vf was So BAD. Totally a toy. The rear
screen was ok, but then you look at just about anything else out there
and it was much better. Just not worth the money.
I was just at Camera camera and they have EPL-2's and EP-3's for
around 200 and less. These are either new or factory refurbs with full
warranty. Some have kit lenses as well.
I am sure there are a lot of good choices out there. Others have made
excellent recommendations as well. I would hate to see you get stuck
with the E-5 and not be happy with it, which I am sure would happen.

Walt

On Sat, Sep 21, 2013 at 4:27 PM,  eactiv...@aol.com wrote:
 Are you sure? Re: X-5, the price is great, and  it has a lot of features,
 and it has that retro look. So I'd be found to find  the controls easily
 enough.

 Unless people aren't understanding that I  want a PS for travel purposes.
 This would not be my main camera. I've  decided to stick with Canon for
 another year (just get lighter lenses). None of  the others I've looked at (on
 line) really match, or come close to matching,  DSLRs yet. And, well, I am
 not ready yet to switch to a whole new system, if I  have serious
 reservations. Which I do. Despite the word being verbotten around  here, I've 
 been very
 happy with Canon over the years.

 Re Oly, yes, a lot  recommend the 17mm for a true compact camera on the
 PENs. But the electronic  viewfinders are expensive, even if you get the 
 camera
 cheap. And I haven't  turned up any used ones yet.

 Marnie aka Doe :-)



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 hamlerwal...@gmail.com writes:
 NO! NO! NO!  I had one and it was a POS.  Go with an Olympus EPL-2 from
 some place like Cameta Camera. They have them  refurbished sometimes at
 really good prices. The 17mm and an optical VF or  the electronic
 version make for a really good compact  combo.

 Walt

 On Sat, Sep 21, 2013 at 1:01 PM,   eactiv...@aol.com wrote:
 Sort of narrowing down my choices for  my main  camera system.

 But been looking at having a little  fixed lens camera for  travel
 situations (like Disneyland where you  don't want to lug around a big
 camera).

 The Pentax X-5  seems a lot of value for a little camera. Does  have a
 smaller  sensor, but supposed to take good pics. If I my back-up camera is
  Pentax, I can get in the PUG now and then too. Heh.

 Anyway,  anyone have  one? Like it?

 The Pentax Q might be an option  too, although I have my  doubts (yes,
 know
 it takes interchangeable  lenses), but has the X-5 is a little  cheaper.
 Heck, it's downright  cheap.

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Re: Anyone have the Pentax X-5?

2013-09-21 Thread Godfrey DiGiorgi
On Sep 21, 2013, at 1:27 PM, eactiv...@aol.com wrote:

 Unless people aren't understanding that I  want a PS for travel purposes. 

That's what I thought you were looking for. I just like my PS to be in the 
same system as my main cameras. (Well, actually, my PS is a Leica X2 which 
performs on par with most main cameras. ;-)

 ... I've  decided to stick with Canon for 
 another year (just get lighter lenses). None of  the others I've looked at 
 (on 
 line) really match, or come close to matching,  DSLRs yet. 

I disagree, but it's just a point of opinion. 

 Re Oly, yes, a lot recommend the 17mm for a true compact camera on the 
 PENs. But the electronic viewfinders are expensive, even if you get the 
 camera 
 cheap. And I haven't  turned up any used ones yet.

Funny, but the prices on the VF-2 are all higher than I paid for mine new a 
year back ($190 from the local camera shop). Wonder what's driving that? 
However, for a 17mm lens on a Pen, an optical 35mm viewfinder works great ... 
just set the AF to Face Detect and let it do its thing. It will be right on the 
money 99% of the time. I bought a used 35mm OVF for $60 before I spent the bux 
for a new Voigtländer a couple of years ago. (That's what I use on the X2 quite 
a lot of the time.)

enjoy!
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Re: Anyone have the Pentax X-5?

2013-09-21 Thread Bob W

 On 21 Sep 2013, at 21:49, Godfrey DiGiorgi godd...@me.com wrote:
 
 On Sep 21, 2013, at 1:27 PM, eactiv...@aol.com wrote:
 
 Unless people aren't understanding that I  want a PS for travel purposes.
 
 That's what I thought you were looking for. I just like my PS to be in the 
 same system as my main cameras. (Well, actually, my PS is a Leica X2 which 
 performs on par with most main cameras. ;-)

That makes some sort of sense. I've never understood why people want a POS, 
ops, sorry, PS as a travel camera. When I go somewhere interesting I want to 
take my best camera.

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Re: PESO - Rubik

2013-09-21 Thread Bob W
My Buddha's bigger than yours. Probably more enlightened too.

B

 On 21 Sep 2013, at 20:59, Steve Cottrell co...@seeingeye.tv wrote:
 
 Not really a PESO, more a test shot with the A*85. Handheld in room
 lighting, ISO 6400. Easy focussing with peaking on the Rubik's cube,
 mono in-camera processing to jpeg. Resized in PS.
 
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Re: Anyone have the Pentax X-5?

2013-09-21 Thread Aahz Maruch
On Sat, Sep 21, 2013, eactiv...@aol.com wrote:

 Unless people aren't understanding that I want a PS for travel   
 purposes.  This would not be my main camera.  

Yes, that's why I recommended the P7100 (which someone else also
recommended), the P7800, or the DMC-LF1 -- all of which have large-ish
sensors for PS (1/1.7) for better low-light performance, some kind of
viewfinder, and long-ish zooms for compact camera (28-200mm/e).

The P7800 isn't actually available yet (early next month) if you're in a
hurry.

The X-5 really is NOT what you want if you want something small, plus its
sensor is smaller than the high-end compacts with shorter zooms.  If you
want something sized like the X-5, I recommend the Fuji X-S1.
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PESO -- No Bull. Would I steer you wrong.

2013-09-21 Thread P.J. Alling
I was carrying a lens that used to get a lot of love on the PDML until, 
(well I'm not sure if can be called element separation when the plastic 
and glass in a composite element come apart but for want of a better 
term), various copies began to suffer from element separation.  I have 
two copies one that has separated and hasn't. The first isn't even good 
as a paper weight, it's too light, The second I used for this photo.  
When they work these are just wonderful lenses.


https://dl.dropboxusercontent.com/u/1604247/PESO/PESO%20--%20nobull.html

Equipment: Pentax K20D w/smc Pentax FA 28-70mm f4.0

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Re: PESO - Rubik

2013-09-21 Thread Steve Cottrell
On 21/9/13, Bob W, discombobulated, unleashed:

My Buddha's bigger than yours. Probably more enlightened too.

Not my buddha. Hah!

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Re: Anyone have the Pentax X-5?

2013-09-21 Thread John

If you're going to look at Point 'n Shoot cameras in that range, you
should probably also consider the Canon G10 - G16 as well.


On 9/21/2013 2:56 PM, Kenneth Waller wrote:

Marnie, unless you absolutely have to have a Pentax, I'd heartily
recommend you look at the Nikon Coolpix P7100, a really great little
package that has most of the features of a mid to low level DSLR with
a lens that goes to an effective 200mm. It's recently out of
production but I still see them on the net. Got mine a few weeks ago
for around $350.


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From: eactiv...@aol.com Subject: Anyone have the Pentax X-5?

Sort of narrowing down my choices for my main  camera system.

But been looking at having a little fixed lens camera for  travel
situations (like Disneyland where you don't want to lug around a
big  camera).

The Pentax X-5 seems a lot of value for a little camera. Does  have
a smaller sensor, but supposed to take good pics. If I my back-up
camera is Pentax, I can get in the PUG now and then too. Heh.

Anyway, anyone have  one? Like it?

The Pentax Q might be an option too, although I have my  doubts
(yes, know it takes interchangeable lenses), but has the X-5 is a
little  cheaper. Heck, it's downright cheap.

Marnie aka Doe :-)






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Re: Anyone have the Pentax X-5?

2013-09-21 Thread Eactivist
Oh. Thanks.

Marnie

In a message  dated 9/21/2013 1:49:49 P.M. Pacific Daylight Time, 
godd...@me.com  writes:
However, for a 17mm lens on a Pen, an optical 35mm viewfinder works  great 
... just set the AF to Face Detect and let it do its thing. It will be  
right on the money 99% of the time. I bought a used 35mm OVF for $60 before I  
spent the bux for a new Voigtländer a couple of years ago. (That's what I use 
on  the X2 quite a lot of the time.)

enjoy!
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Re: Anyone have the Pentax X-5?

2013-09-21 Thread John

You should be able to get your hands on a Pentax X-5 at Target. Probably
won't be able to do much with it, but you can at least check out whether the
size fits what you're looking for.

On 9/21/2013 3:36 PM, eactiv...@aol.com wrote:

Sheesh! You guys (all who previously answered)  are no help at all. I was
trying for something small, something Pentax.  Sheesh!



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Re: Anyone have the Pentax X-5?

2013-09-21 Thread Eactivist
Thanks. I've been looking (online) at a lot of  Fuji's because of the IQ.

M aka D

In a message dated 9/21/2013  2:08:19 P.M. Pacific Daylight Time, 
a...@pobox.com writes:
The X-5 really is  NOT what you want if you want something small, plus its
sensor is smaller  than the high-end compacts with shorter zooms.  If you
want something  sized like the X-5, I recommend the Fuji X-S1.  


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Re: PESO - Rubik

2013-09-21 Thread John

I love the Rubiks cube. Pop one corner off and reattach it 120 deg out
of phase before scrambling the cube and make nerds *CRAZY!*

On 9/21/2013 3:59 PM, Steve Cottrell wrote:

Not really a PESO, more a test shot with the A*85. Handheld in room
lighting, ISO 6400. Easy focussing with peaking on the Rubik's cube,
mono in-camera processing to jpeg. Resized in PS.

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Re: PESO - Absaroka Range

2013-09-21 Thread John

Looks like Helena is big enough they've got a Walmart.

On 9/21/2013 4:16 PM, Daniel J. Matyola wrote:

Very nice!

Is there a part of Montana that is not rural?  I didn't find it.  G

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On Sat, Sep 21, 2013 at 8:43 AM, Attila Boros attila.p...@gmail.com wrote:

Nice rainbow. There sure is a pot of gold somewhere in that valley:-)

On Sat, Sep 21, 2013 at 3:23 PM, Brian Walters apathy...@lyons-ryan.org wrote:

G'day all

Just a late afternoon scene in rural Montana:

https://dl.dropboxusercontent.com/u/1370864/PESO/slides/_IGP3638-K5-1peso.html

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Re: Anyone have the Pentax X-5?

2013-09-21 Thread John

Target stores have the X-5, so you can check it out for yourself.

On 9/21/2013 4:27 PM, eactiv...@aol.com wrote:

Are you sure? Re: X-5, the price is great, and  it has a lot of features,
and it has that retro look. So I'd be found to find  the controls easily
enough.

Unless people aren't understanding that I  want a PS for travel purposes.
This would not be my main camera. I've  decided to stick with Canon for
another year (just get lighter lenses). None of  the others I've looked at (on
line) really match, or come close to matching,  DSLRs yet. And, well, I am
not ready yet to switch to a whole new system, if I  have serious
reservations. Which I do. Despite the word being verbotten around  here, I've 
been very
happy with Canon over the years.

Re Oly, yes, a lot  recommend the 17mm for a true compact camera on the
PENs. But the electronic  viewfinders are expensive, even if you get the camera
cheap. And I haven't  turned up any used ones yet.

Marnie aka Doe :-)



In  a message dated 9/21/2013 12:57:46 P.M. Pacific Daylight Time,
hamlerwal...@gmail.com writes:
NO! NO! NO!  I had one and it was a POS.  Go with an Olympus EPL-2 from
some place like Cameta Camera. They have them  refurbished sometimes at
really good prices. The 17mm and an optical VF or  the electronic
version make for a really good compact  combo.

Walt

On Sat, Sep 21, 2013 at 1:01 PM,   eactiv...@aol.com wrote:

Sort of narrowing down my choices for  my main  camera system.

But been looking at having a little  fixed lens camera for  travel
situations (like Disneyland where you  don't want to lug around a big

camera).


The Pentax X-5  seems a lot of value for a little camera. Does  have a
smaller  sensor, but supposed to take good pics. If I my back-up camera is
  Pentax, I can get in the PUG now and then too. Heh.

Anyway,  anyone have  one? Like it?

The Pentax Q might be an option  too, although I have my  doubts (yes,

know

it takes interchangeable  lenses), but has the X-5 is a little  cheaper.
Heck, it's downright  cheap.

Marnie aka Doe :-)


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Re: Anyone have the Pentax X-5?

2013-09-21 Thread Eactivist
Cool. Thanks.

M aka D

In a message  dated 9/21/2013 3:03:35 P.M. Pacific Daylight Time, 
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Target stores have the X-5, so you can check it out for yourself.  


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Re: You didn't hear it from me...

2013-09-21 Thread Brian Walters

Quoting P.J. Alling webstertwenty...@gmail.com:

Ricoh used to make a line of second string K mount SLRs, prior to  
that they made a line of second string m42 mount SLRs, and  
apparently they marketed a Nikon mount SLR, made by Mamiym.  They  
put some pretty nice technology into them, often the K mount bodies  
seemed to have somewhat better tech and more features than Pentax,  
and they were pretty nice cameras, but there was always something  
off about their ergonomics.


Back when Pentax still had a presence in most Cameras stores, (not  
that long ago actually), one of the best local camera stores in the  
area went out of business, (they had one of my LXen in for repair,  
and I was worried about getting it back, I did eventually), at their  
going out of business sale they had a used Ricoh, I forget the model  
number, it resembled a Pentax A3 but included a ME Super style  
button system for setting manual shutter speeds IIRC.  This  
particular camera seemed to be pristine condition and the price was  
certainly right, I was seriously considering buying it as a body to  
carry where I didn't want to risk a LX or MX, when one of the  
buttons simply fell off.  The salesman who I knew, (it wasn't a paid  
liquidator running the sale), said, That seems to happen a lot, it  
just snaps back on. I decided to take a pass.


Ricoh abandoned the SLR market sometime in the 90's.  I don't  
remember when, exactly.  I don't remember any big announcement, such  
as when Yashica stopped making cameras, Ricoh just sort of stopped,  
making SLRs.





I had a Ricoh XR-2 in the 1970s/80s.  It may have been a second-string  
brand but it was an excellent camera - functionally equivalent to the  
ME Super in a slightly larger body and without the push buttons.   
Sadly, it was stolen in the mid 80s but, on the positive side, the  
theft brought me back to Pentax :-)


I think Ricoh decided not to get involved in the SLR autofocus race.   
They continued to make a few manual focus SLRs until the mid 90s  
before pulling the plug.




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Re: Anyone have the Pentax X-5?

2013-09-21 Thread Paul Stenquist
I have a great compact travel camera. I take the battery grip off my k5 and 
mount the 40/2.8 pancake. Bingo. For everyday pocket camera, it's an iphone5, 
better than many ps pos.

Paul via phone

 On Sep 21, 2013, at 6:04 PM, eactiv...@aol.com wrote:
 
 Cool. Thanks.
 
 M aka D
 
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 Target stores have the X-5, so you can check it out for yourself.  
 
 
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Re: PESO -- No Bull. Would I steer you wrong.

2013-09-21 Thread Brian Walters

Quoting P.J. Alling webstertwenty...@gmail.com:

I was carrying a lens that used to get a lot of love on the PDML  
until, (well I'm not sure if can be called element separation when  
the plastic and glass in a composite element come apart but for want  
of a better term), various copies began to suffer from element  
separation.  I have two copies one that has separated and hasn't.  
The first isn't even good as a paper weight, it's too light, The  
second I used for this photo.  When they work these are just  
wonderful lenses.


https://dl.dropboxusercontent.com/u/1604247/PESO/PESO%20--%20nobull.html

Equipment: Pentax K20D w/smc Pentax FA 28-70mm f4.0




Isn't there some rule about people starting their own pun threads?

Nice sharp photo.  My only beef is the obtrusive fence wire...


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Re: Anyone have the Pentax X-5?

2013-09-21 Thread Brian Walters

Quoting Bob W p...@web-options.com:


On 21 Sep 2013, at 21:49, Godfrey DiGiorgi godd...@me.com wrote:


On Sep 21, 2013, at 1:27 PM, eactiv...@aol.com wrote:

Unless people aren't understanding that I  want a PS for travel purposes.


That's what I thought you were looking for. I just like my PS to  
be in the same system as my main cameras. (Well, actually, my PS  
is a Leica X2 which performs on par with most main cameras. ;-)


That makes some sort of sense. I've never understood why people want  
a POS, ops, sorry, PS as a travel camera. When I go somewhere  
interesting I want to take my best camera.




I agree - especially if I'm going some place that I'm unlikely to  
return to.  Carting my K-5, backup K200D and a few lenses around the  
USA became tedious but I don't regret it.



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Re: PESO -- No Bull. Would I steer you wrong.

2013-09-21 Thread P.J. Alling

On 9/21/2013 6:22 PM, Brian Walters wrote:

Quoting P.J. Alling webstertwenty...@gmail.com:

I was carrying a lens that used to get a lot of love on the PDML 
until, (well I'm not sure if can be called element separation when 
the plastic and glass in a composite element come apart but for want 
of a better term), various copies began to suffer from element 
separation.  I have two copies one that has separated and hasn't. The 
first isn't even good as a paper weight, it's too light, The second I 
used for this photo.  When they work these are just wonderful lenses.


https://dl.dropboxusercontent.com/u/1604247/PESO/PESO%20--%20nobull.html

Equipment: Pentax K20D w/smc Pentax FA 28-70mm f4.0




Isn't there some rule about people starting their own pun threads?

Nice sharp photo.  My only beef is the obtrusive fence wire...



This is the PDML we don't have no stinkin' rules...

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Re: PESO - Trolley and Shadows, Take 2

2013-09-21 Thread Brian Walters

Quoting Rick Womer rwomer1...@yahoo.com:


Thanks for all the comments!nbsp;nbsp;


Yes, the trolley was rather a dominating presence in the photo.

This is from a slightly earlier exposure, cropped so that there's  
just a bit of the trolley to provide context:


http://photo.net/photodb/photo?photo_id=17533634

or

http://gallery.photo.net/photo/17533634-lg.jpg





Yes - I prefer that although the trolley is now an incidental part of  
the image. Probably need a new title :-)



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Re: Anyone have the Pentax X-5?

2013-09-21 Thread Aahz Maruch
On Sat, Sep 21, 2013, John wrote:

 If you're going to look at Point 'n Shoot cameras in that range, you
 should probably also consider the Canon G10 - G16 as well.

The main reason I didn't suggest those is that their zoom range is more
limited (and Marnie says she likes telephoto -- it's only 28-140mm/e).
Otherwise, yes, a good choice.
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PESO -- Coming and Going; A Diptych

2013-09-21 Thread P.J. Alling

This pair of photos really needs THE STORY for explanation.

As I stated in my post accompanying the PESO -- Charge, I was present at 
a Polo match that was being held for charity.  A group I'm associated 
with was selling BBQ sandwiches with all proceeds being donated to the 
same charity, I was supposed to be there to ostensibly, to get some 
shots of the match and of our crew for publicity purposes.   Well Coming 
is a photo of our first customer, (I was going to say satisfied 
customer, but she really doesn't look to happy), though she assured me 
that she was.  Well now the story becomes kind of personal.  One of my 
cohorts saw me take the photo and asked to see it.  So I showed the 
image on the back screen of the K20D.  Before I could even protest, he 
exclaimed that's really good and went over to the subject of the picture 
and told her how great it was...


Next thing I know she's at my elbow and wants to see, and based on what 
you can see on the rear screen she's very pleased, thought I don't know 
how she'd feel about the larger version I've posted here, and for the 
next hour she clung to me like a Remora on a Shark.  I learned quite a 
bit about her in our conversion except for her name, I never did get 
that.  Finally without a word of good buy she simply decided to walk 
away, which is the subject of Going...


So there you have it.

https://dl.dropboxusercontent.com/u/1604247/PESO/PESO%20--%20coming%26goingdiptych.html

Equipment: Coming: Pentax K20D w/smc Pentax F 70-210mm f4.0~5.6
   Going:  Pentax K20D w/smc Pentax A*300mm f4;0  smc Pentax F 
1.7x AF Adapter.


As usual comments are welcome but may be totally ignored.

Note:  I've got to admit she had nice legs...

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Fw: PESO - Rubik

2013-09-21 Thread Jack Davis


- Forwarded Message -
From: Jack Davis jdavi...@yahoo.com
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Sent: Saturday, September 21, 2013 3:15 PM
Subject: Re: PESO - Rubik

Looks like spot-on focus and a quiet 6400.
 
Jack


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Sent: Saturday, September 21, 2013 12:59 PM
Subject: PESO - Rubik

Not really a PESO, more a test shot with the A*85. Handheld in room
lighting, ISO 6400. Easy focussing with peaking on the Rubik's cube,
mono in-camera processing to jpeg. Resized in PS.

http://pdml.posthaven.com/rubik

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Re: PESO -- No Bull. Would I steer you wrong.

2013-09-21 Thread Daniel J. Matyola
Very nice portrait.
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On Sat, Sep 21, 2013 at 5:12 PM, P.J. Alling webstertwenty...@gmail.com wrote:
 I was carrying a lens that used to get a lot of love on the PDML until,
 (well I'm not sure if can be called element separation when the plastic and
 glass in a composite element come apart but for want of a better term),
 various copies began to suffer from element separation.  I have two copies
 one that has separated and hasn't. The first isn't even good as a paper
 weight, it's too light, The second I used for this photo.  When they work
 these are just wonderful lenses.

 https://dl.dropboxusercontent.com/u/1604247/PESO/PESO%20--%20nobull.html

 Equipment: Pentax K20D w/smc Pentax FA 28-70mm f4.0

 As usual comments are welcome but may be totally ignored.

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Failure Notices

2013-09-21 Thread Jack Davis
Lately I've been getting Failure Notices on some of my PDML responses. Anyone 
else? 
Hasn't happened in the past.
When this happens, I've been simply forwarding them from my Sent folder and 
they go. Strange!!

Jack
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Re: Failure Notices

2013-09-21 Thread P.J. Alling

What pray tell isn't strange about the PDML.

On 9/21/2013 8:13 PM, Jack Davis wrote:

Lately I've been getting Failure Notices on some of my PDML responses. Anyone 
else?
Hasn't happened in the past.
When this happens, I've been simply forwarding them from my Sent folder and 
they go. Strange!!

Jack
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Re: Anyone have the Pentax X-5?

2013-09-21 Thread Eactivist
I mentioned Disneyland in particular. That is not a place you want a heavy  
camera, going on rides, et. all.

For the Southwest, for sure, I'd want a  DSLR or something good.

HTH, Have a Nice Day! Marnie aka Doe ;-)  
 
I think one of the Fujifilm Fine Pixs will work great as a little travel  
camera. Decision made.

In a message dated 9/21/2013 3:29:01 P.M. Pacific  Daylight Time, 
apathy...@lyons-ryan.org writes:
 That makes some sort of  sense. I've never understood why people want  
 a POS, ops, sorry,  PS as a travel camera. When I go somewhere  
 interesting I  want to take my best camera.


I agree - especially if I'm going some  place that I'm unlikely to  
return to.  Carting my K-5, backup  K200D and a few lenses around the  
USA became tedious but I don't  regret it.


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Re: Failure Notices

2013-09-21 Thread Kenneth Waller
Not here.


-Original Message-
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Subject: Failure Notices

Lately I've been getting Failure Notices on some of my PDML responses. Anyone 
else? 
Hasn't happened in the past.
When this happens, I've been simply forwarding them from my Sent folder and 
they go. Strange!!

Jack



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Re: Failure Notices

2013-09-21 Thread Stan Halpin
Nothing like that here.

stan

On Sep 21, 2013, at 8:13 PM, Jack Davis wrote:

 Lately I've been getting Failure Notices on some of my PDML responses. Anyone 
 else? 
 Hasn't happened in the past.
 When this happens, I've been simply forwarding them from my Sent folder and 
 they go. Strange!!
 
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